From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 01:36:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10582; Mon, 1 May 95 01:36:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00323; Mon, 1 May 95 01:32:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00317; Mon, 1 May 95 01:32:04 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 1 May 1995 09:28:45 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA00922; Mon, 1 May 1995 09:32:34 +0100 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 09:32:34 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: "Douglas M. Bates" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Unix Pine: Must the config be in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: The names of the configuration and fixed configuration files are held in operating system specific include files. Going off memory these live in the pine/osdep/ directory of your unpacked Pine kit. Find the appropriate .h file and modify the neam(s) appropriately. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On Fri, 28 Apr 1995, Douglas M. Bates wrote: > I am configuring Pine 3.91 for several different types of Unix systems in > our department. Because we discourage the use of directories in the > /usr/local/ hierarchy, I would like to keep the global configuration file > in a location other than /usr/local/lib/pine.conf. I had hoped that > there would be a variable in the makefile to set this but I can't see > one. In fact, a grep of the source code directory seems to indicate that > the name /usr/local/lib/pine.conf occurs as exactly that string in a > number of locations in the source code and the help files. > > Is it the case that using another global configuration file would require > replacing that string in many different source files? (Replies via > e-mail would be appreciated. I don't know that I will be able to keep up > with the volume of traffic on this group.) > > If that is the case, may I suggest that allowing easy reconfiguration of > that name could be something to add to the "TO DO" list? > > Douglas Bates bates@stat.wisc.edu > Statistics Department 608/262-2598 > University of Wisconsin - Madison http://www.stat.wisc.edu/~bates/ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 05:19:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15843; Mon, 1 May 95 05:19:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05644; Mon, 1 May 95 05:08:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05638; Mon, 1 May 95 05:08:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5uBY-00038RC; Mon, 1 May 95 05:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ha4bro@orac.sunderland.ac.uk (ben.rose) Subject: Re: Leaving read messages in INBOX Date: 28 Apr 1995 18:39:06 +0100 Message-Id: <3nr97q$nlt@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> References: Status: O X-Status: Barry Landy (bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk) wrote: : On 28 Apr 1995, Leng Kaing wrote: : > Noam Ben Yochanan (noam@brachot.jct.ac.il) wrote: : > : > : Hello all, : > : > : In elm it's possible to leave read messages in the incomming mail file, : > : meaning I can leave a message there until I deal with it. Pine doesn't seem : > : to support this option. It considers every read message as deleted ('D') when : > : exiting. This really sucks, pardon the expression. I got around it by : > : undeleting all the messages I want to keep, expunging all the ones I want to : > : delete and then exiting. This is of course error prone (I made the error : > : today :-( ) and inelegant. : > : > : > : Isn't there any way I can just tell the system to treat deleted/saved massges : > : in a different maner than read messages? i.e. NEVER to have 'D' appear next : > : to a message that was read but not deleted or saved? maybe an option in : > : .pinerc I missed or misunderstud? : > : > : Please reply by e-mail. : > : > Mine only gets marked as Deleted if I save the file into a folder, or : > delete it myself. Otherwise, it's left in the INBOX with no letters in front : > (meaning it's been read). I'm using unix pine by the way. : > : And there is even an option so that save will not delete. : I agree with the last poster (Leng) that Pine does NOT mark read mail as : Deleted - there is no option to set it up that way either. Incorrect answer. Zero points In the .pinerc file there is a flag that you can set to make it do either. If you enter a folder name after read-message-folder= it will save all read mail to this folder marking it deleted in the inbox. Having this option set means the only mail in the inbox is the unread. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This letter was brought to you in association with:- Ben Rose of Sunderland, England aka ha4bro@orac.sunderland.ac.uk ******** Why is there so much month left at the end of the money? ******** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 05:50:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16439; Mon, 1 May 95 05:50:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03455; Mon, 1 May 95 05:39:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03449; Mon, 1 May 95 05:39:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5ugR-00038RC; Mon, 1 May 95 05:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kovler@smart.net (Ken Kovler) Subject: How do you erase entries in the Address book? Date: 1 May 1995 07:07:42 -0400 Message-Id: <3o2fdu$5qk@smarty.smart.net> Status: O X-Status: I didn't see any command that would delete an entry in the pine address book. If anyone knows how to do this please let me know. -- | 0 0 | "Keep Smiling" //\\ Ken \\//[http://www.smart.net/~kovler] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 06:27:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17012; Mon, 1 May 95 06:27:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03886; Mon, 1 May 95 06:16:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hibbert.meiko.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03880; Mon, 1 May 95 06:16:44 -0700 Received: by hibbert.meiko.com id AA17624 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Mon, 1 May 1995 09:16:25 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 09:16:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Stok To: Ken Kovler Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How do you erase entries in the Address book? In-Reply-To: <3o2fdu$5qk@smarty.smart.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 1 May 1995, Ken Kovler wrote: > I didn't see any command that would delete an entry in the pine address > book. > If anyone knows how to do this please let me know. I beleive that there's a D in the address book menu which does this (at least in 3.91) Mike -- The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. | Meiko Mike Stok | 130C Baker Ave. Ext Mike.Stok@meiko.concord.ma.us | Concord, MA 01742 Meiko tel: (508) 371 0088 x124 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 06:53:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17582; Mon, 1 May 95 06:53:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06508; Mon, 1 May 95 06:38:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06502; Mon, 1 May 95 06:38:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5vcG-00038RC; Mon, 1 May 95 06:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sdemena@annex.com (Steven de Mena) Subject: Un-Subscribe to PINE mailing list Date: 1 May 1995 05:28:27 GMT Message-Id: <3o1rhr$ph6@news.annex.com> Status: O X-Status: Can someone E-Mail me and tell me how to un-subscribe to the "pine-info" mailing list? Thanks, Steve -- Steven de Mena Sysop, Technical Operations - The Annex! BBS sdemena@annex.com Telnet annex.com (204.74.67.1) Phone +1 818.779.5600 Los Angeles, CA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 08:05:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19411; Mon, 1 May 95 08:05:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05344; Mon, 1 May 95 07:54:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sarah.albany.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05338; Mon, 1 May 95 07:54:18 -0700 Received: from s52.ed.albany.edu (s52.ed.albany.edu [128.204.40.52]) by sarah.albany.edu (8.6.10/HUB01) with SMTP id KAA12382 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 10:54:15 -0400 Received: by s52.ed.albany.edu (3.2/HUB10); id AA03020; Mon, 1 May 95 10:53:16 EDT for pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Christopher A. Cox" Message-Id: <9505011453.AA03020@s52.ed.albany.edu> Subject: Compiling PINE on a Sun 2 with SunOS 3.5? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 10:53:12 -0400 (ADT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 530 Status: O X-Status: I would like to compile PINE on this old steel monster of mine, a Sun 2/120 with SunOS 3.5. No, I don't want v4.1.1 on it...it would be slower yet (if that were possible). Has anyone done this? What do I need to mess with? I am not really a programmer (it gives me hives) so perhaps there is something easy that I missed, but I certainly have missed it. Thanks... ---------- If you cut here you'd probably ruin your monitor -------------- cac@itchy.geog.albany.edu Christopher A. Cox cac@s52.ed.albany.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 08:19:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19980; Mon, 1 May 95 08:19:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07796; Mon, 1 May 95 08:09:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from msphub.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07786; Mon, 1 May 95 08:09:22 -0700 Received: from Connect2 Message Router by cbsmsp.msphub.com via Connect2-SMTP 3.19.b12F; Mon, 1 May 95 10:12:27 -0600 Message-Id: <08DAA42F01570200@cbsmsp.msphub.com> Date: Mon, 1 May 95 10:12:18 -0400 From: Jon Johnston Organization: Creative Business Solutions To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: 3.89 and potential problems? X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 3.19.b12F MHS to SMTP Gateway Status: O X-Status: Have a client who is currently using 3.89, which, I've been informed by this list, is about 1.5 years old. I cannot update the PINE the client has, since they had some customization done to the code, and (whoopeee!!!) no one documented the changes. Not only that, but I don't have any authority to do anything on their Unix system besides get PINE talking to Microsoft Mail. 1. How can I retrieve the FAQ through email? 2. What are newer versions capable of that 3.89 does not have?????? Thanks for any info. Jon Johnston Creative Business Solutions 10560 Wayzata Blvd Minnetonka, MN 55305 612-544-1108 Internet: JON@CBSMSP.MSPHUB.COM Nebraska ---- 1994 NCAA National Champions ---- 13-0 Congrats UCLA - 1994/95 NCAA Basketball Champions - 31-2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 08:33:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20787; Mon, 1 May 95 08:33:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05959; Mon, 1 May 95 08:22:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05953; Mon, 1 May 95 08:22:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5x7I-00038XC; Mon, 1 May 95 08:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) Subject: cmsg cancel <3nl3cs$igd@news.primenet.com> Message-Id: <3nnsgj$e8m@news.primenet.com> Date: 27 Apr 1995 10:43:31 GMT Control: cancel <3nl3cs$igd@news.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 08:45:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21297; Mon, 1 May 95 08:45:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08598; Mon, 1 May 95 08:39:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08592; Mon, 1 May 95 08:39:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5xQn-00038RC; Mon, 1 May 95 08:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bgomez@ix.netcom.com (B Gomez) Subject: using pc-pine with netcruiser Date: 1 May 1995 05:04:56 GMT Message-Id: <3o1q5o$emf@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to use pc-pine with netcruiser? Is anyone out there running it? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 08:45:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21328; Mon, 1 May 95 08:45:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08440; Mon, 1 May 95 08:33:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08434; Mon, 1 May 95 08:33:03 -0700 Received: by watsun.cc.columbia.edu id AA09990 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Mon, 1 May 1995 11:33:01 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 May 95 11:33:00 EDT From: Joe Brennan In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 30 Apr 95 15:25:20 -0400 Subject: "Message to save shrank!" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: User here has got this twice now. What should we be looking for as a probable cause for a message "shrinking" by 10 bytes? Brief details attached... I don't want to post someone else's whole debug file publicly. Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York brennan@columbia.edu ----- Error displayed by pine: [Message to save shrank! (#5: 2316 --> 2306)] ----- Section of .pine-debug: q_status_message, Count 1, "Message to save shrank! (#5: 2316 --> 2306)" BOTCH: 5 save shrank mc->size == 2316, string == 2306 FAILED save of msg-id <> ----- Comes from this place in mailcmd.c: /* * What's really needed is a way to pipe this crap right into * context_append... */ /* set up string driver */ #ifdef DOS . . .[skip ahead]. . . #else if((mlen = strlen((char *)so_text(so))) < message->rfc822_size){ q_status_message3(1, 2, 4, "\007Message to save shrank! (#%ld: %ld --> %ld)", (void *)message->msgno, (void *)message->rfc822_size, (void *)mlen); dprint(1, (debugfile, "BOTCH: %ld save shrank mc->size == %ld, string == %ld\n", message->msgno, message->rfc822_size, mlen)); so_give(&so); return(0); From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 09:18:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28051; Mon, 1 May 95 09:18:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09671; Mon, 1 May 95 09:01:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09204; Mon, 1 May 95 09:00:57 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id LAA01741 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 11:55:17 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id LAA02503 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 11:55:15 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA19606; Mon, 1 May 95 11:53:51 EDT Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 11:53:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Printer selection In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Last week there was a posting re: selecting printers on the fly. It seems to me that Pine was 'meant' to allow this, since when you initiate the print command, you are asked "Print to lpr?" and offered Yes, No, or Cancel as options. Since C is cancel, N should logically mean, "Well, then, where *do* you want to print?" and let the user fill in the destination. My $.02 worth. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 09:52:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29811; Mon, 1 May 95 09:52:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13441; Mon, 1 May 95 09:48:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13433; Mon, 1 May 95 09:48:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5yV0-00038TC; Mon, 1 May 95 09:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wadams@callnet.com Subject: OS/2 version of Pine? Date: 1 May 1995 06:30:38 GMT Message-Id: <3o1v6e$5to@kiwi.futuris.net> Status: O X-Status: I heard awhile back that Pine was being ported for OS/2 Warp. Anyone know the status? TIA, Wayne From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 10:13:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00856; Mon, 1 May 95 10:13:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10986; Mon, 1 May 95 10:09:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10980; Mon, 1 May 95 10:09:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5yqa-00038ZC; Mon, 1 May 95 10:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Resending messages - bug? Date: 1 May 1995 09:18:17 -0700 Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: Dave Saville writes: >I have been using the usual suggested methed for resending a message. ie >saving to postponed-msgs and then compose. > >Message is NOT saved to sent-mail - if you forget to toggle the delete flag >you've lost it. Why don't you just use the forward or bounce command? I think that when you forward a message it will automatically get saved in your default save file but when you bounce a msg it isn't saved. -- /\_/\ @..@ Please make sure your host gets the /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) new humanities.* newsgroups. Info ( o.o ) > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) is at http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 11:14:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03628; Mon, 1 May 95 11:14:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15518; Mon, 1 May 95 11:09:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15512; Mon, 1 May 95 11:09:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5zng-00038ZC; Mon, 1 May 95 11:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert Ngu Subject: configure pine not to use MIME Date: 1 May 1995 17:35:53 GMT Message-Id: <3o365p$cad@itnews.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hi, Is there a way to configure pine not to use MIME format for sending attachment files? This presents a problem for elm users that typically do not have MIME tools or use pine. Please help and send me responses at rngu@scdt.intel.com since I do not read this newsgroup much. Thanks in advance, Bob From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 11:14:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03665; Mon, 1 May 95 11:14:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12366; Mon, 1 May 95 11:09:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12360; Mon, 1 May 95 11:09:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5znT-00038TC; Mon, 1 May 95 11:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert Ngu Subject: configure pine not to use MIME Date: 1 May 1995 17:35:50 GMT Message-Id: <3o365m$bh2@itnews.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hi, Is there a way to configure pine not to use MIME format for sending attachment files? This presents a problem for elm users that typically do not have MIME tools or use pine. Please help and send me responses at rngu@scdt.intel.com since I do not read this newsgroup much. Thanks in advance, Bob From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 11:21:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03922; Mon, 1 May 95 11:21:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15669; Mon, 1 May 95 11:15:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15663; Mon, 1 May 95 11:15:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5zrB-00038aC; Mon, 1 May 95 11:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Resending messages - bug? Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 14:06:25 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: This has been the standard behaviour all along. You have remember to insert the FCC field. Tis is presumablybecause messages as sent do not have an Fcc: field. It sure would be nice to get the standard default put in tho! On Fri, 28 Apr 1995, Dave Saville wrote: > I have been using the usual suggested methed for resending a message. ie > saving to postponed-msgs and then compose. > > I have noticed the following: > > I want to re-send a message. > > Go to sent-mail > pick up message > Save to postponed-msgs ( message in sent-mail is marked deleted) > Compose > Send message > > Message is NOT saved to sent-mail - if you forget to toggle the delete flag > you've lost it. > > Comments??? > > David C. Saville > Tel: +44 1293 556326 > > Second star on the right and straight on 'til morning. > Capt. James T. Kirk (Quoting Peter Pan) > > > ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 11:21:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03954; Mon, 1 May 95 11:21:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12450; Mon, 1 May 95 11:12:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tuna.wang.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12444; Mon, 1 May 95 11:12:20 -0700 Received: from nefertiti.wang.com by tuna.wang.com with SMTP id AA11532 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 1 May 1995 13:32:08 -0400 Received: (from forrie@localhost) by nefertiti.wang.com (8.7.Alpha.9/8.7.Alpha.9) id NAA11802 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 1 May 1995 13:35:48 -0400 From: Forrest Aldrich Message-Id: <199505011735.NAA11802@nefertiti.wang.com> Subject: Filtering and IMAP To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 13:35:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: How does one initiate filtering and such (as provided with procmail) if they use the IMAP protocol? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 11:44:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05205; Mon, 1 May 95 11:44:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13055; Mon, 1 May 95 11:40:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13049; Mon, 1 May 95 11:40:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s60JO-00038TC; Mon, 1 May 95 11:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ha4bro@orac.sunderland.ac.uk (ben.rose) Subject: Re: Leaving read messages in INBOX Date: 1 May 1995 13:54:00 +0100 Message-Id: <3o2ll8$mm5@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> References: <3nr97q$nlt@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: : Sorry - I award you ZERO points! That option sets things up so that on : exit Pine asks you if you wish to copy all read mail to the : "read-message-folder"; only if it does that will it mark the mail : deleted. It will then only expunge it if you say yes, unless you have yet : another option set. However, in none of the scenarios is it simply : marking read mail as deleted ***without taking a copy of it somewhere : else***, and even with all these opptions set, you still get the chance : to say NO. : ======================================================================= : Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, : University of Cambridge Computing Service : Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 Sorry I was forgetting the confirmation bit. I have all confirmation turned off in my .pinerc file. By setting a read-mail folder in .pinerc all read mail is auto saved to read-mail and deleted from the inbox. If I don't set it all read-mail stays in the inbox until deleted and or saved. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This letter was brought to you in association with:- Ben Rose of Sunderland, England aka ha4bro@orac.sunderland.ac.uk ******** Why is there so much month left at the end of the money? ******** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 11:48:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05365; Mon, 1 May 95 11:48:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16276; Mon, 1 May 95 11:40:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16270; Mon, 1 May 95 11:40:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s60JT-00038XC; Mon, 1 May 95 11:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ha4bro@orac.sunderland.ac.uk (ben.rose) Subject: Mail list Date: 1 May 1995 13:58:03 +0100 Message-Id: <3o2lsr$muf@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: Can anybody tell me how to get this as a mailing list instead of a newsgroup. Where do I subscribe? Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This letter was brought to you in association with:- Ben Rose of Sunderland, England aka ha4bro@orac.sunderland.ac.uk ******** Why is there so much month left at the end of the money? ******** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 13:09:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09750; Mon, 1 May 95 13:09:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18360; Mon, 1 May 95 13:01:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from franklin.seas.gwu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18354; Mon, 1 May 95 13:01:23 -0700 Received: from gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (gwis2.circ.gwu.edu [128.164.127.252]) by franklin.seas.gwu.edu (v8) with ESMTP id QAA05701; Mon, 1 May 1995 16:01:22 -0400 Received: (from sbpmtm@localhost) by gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA12693; Mon, 1 May 1995 16:01:08 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 16:01:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Tin-Mala Subject: Re: Resending messages - bounce? To: Nancy McGough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > Why don't you just use the forward or bounce command? I think that > when you forward a message it will automatically get saved in your > default save file but when you bounce a msg it isn't saved. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~Affirmative to the forward being automatically saved. You have me wondering though about the "bounce" function - I didn't know one could bounce individual msgs. Please tell me how! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tin-Mala ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Special Assistant to the Dean - Technology Mgt. Phone: 202-994-8637 SBPM, The George Washington University Fax: 202-994-6382 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 13:12:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09904; Mon, 1 May 95 13:12:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14921; Mon, 1 May 95 12:59:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14915; Mon, 1 May 95 12:59:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s61WS-00038RC; Mon, 1 May 95 12:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: laniege@eng.auburn.edu (Glenn E. Lanier) Subject: Re: forcing mail check Message-Id: References: <3nlie1$iuh@nntp.interaccess.com> Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 12:50:49 GMT Status: O X-Status: On 26 Apr 1995 13:39:13 GMT, in comp.mail.pine, John Anfuso (while parading as janf@interaccess.com) scribbled >>--> : khamis@aviion.galtronics.co.il (Aladdin Khamis) wrote: : : >checks for new mail every 2.5 minutes, you might be able to change that, : >but I don't know how to do that yet. : : You can't change it. Personally I think the pc-pine version should allow Just ftp the source and change it. I don't remember which file it is in, but you can grep for it. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Glenn Lanier II Preferred: laniege@eng.auburn.edu | | 04 CS Graduation in: 37 Days - 53590 Minutes | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The beatings will continue until morale improves. | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 13:53:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11539; Mon, 1 May 95 13:53:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19588; Mon, 1 May 95 13:41:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19582; Mon, 1 May 95 13:41:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s62A0-00038TC; Mon, 1 May 95 13:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Wanted: reader that scans articles Message-Id: Date: 27 Apr 1995 19:58:49 -0701 References: <3nmerm$3h1@boris.eden.com> Status: O X-Status: Nancy McGough writes: >Peter Durcansky (durcansky@oi.com) writes: >>Is anybody aware of a newsreader that can scan all articles in the newsgroup for existence >>of a text string? > >nn 6.5 can do this with either of these commands: Someone mailed me that this is only possible in nn 6.5 if this feature was switched on at compile time. Pine 3.90 (and higher versions), which is both a mailer and newsreader, has full text searching of a newsgroup or mail folder. To do this you first need to set the enable-aggregate-command-set and then while viewing the newsgroup type: ; t a TextToSearchFor Which means select (;) text (t) all messages (a). Hope this helps, Nancy -- /\_/\ @..@ Please make sure your host gets the /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) new humanities.* newsgroups. Info ( o.o ) > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) is at http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 14:18:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12618; Mon, 1 May 95 14:18:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16742; Mon, 1 May 95 14:11:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16730; Mon, 1 May 95 14:10:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s62bN-00038cC; Mon, 1 May 95 14:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: forcing mail check Date: 1 May 1995 15:15:13 GMT Message-Id: <3o2tu1$1hla@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Steve Hubert wrote: >The mail check interval will be configurable in the next version of pine. Yay! The Pine development group has been incredible with their work on this version. Every single minor new feature orbug fix I've been asking for is supposed to be in it. Great work, guys! Now, as long as I'm here, I'll add another request for a minor new feature...no new bugs in 3.92? ;) -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 16:06:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19212; Mon, 1 May 95 16:06:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19455; Mon, 1 May 95 15:54:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19447; Mon, 1 May 95 15:54:34 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08015; Mon, 1 May 95 15:53:59 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 15:53:57 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Fuzzy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Misconfigured News Reader In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: You can specify an Organization: header in the Setup/Config screen under customized-hdrs, e.g. customized-hdrs=Organization: ${ORGANIZATION} |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 25 Apr 1995, Fuzzy wrote: > Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 20:36:02 GMT > From: Fuzzy > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Misconfigured News Reader > > > > seems like every time I post something thru pine 3.91 > the organization field in the display is replaced by > "Fuzzy at Misconfigured News Reader" > > wondered where we have to set the value for pine to find it. > tin 1.22 finds it in environment variable ORGANIZATION which > I set in /etc/csh.cshrc and /etc/profile for the various shells. > > thnaks in advance.... > > > Fuzzy > sysadmin, asarian.org > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 16:23:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20003; Mon, 1 May 95 16:23:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19920; Mon, 1 May 95 16:13:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19914; Mon, 1 May 95 16:13:56 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08702; Mon, 1 May 95 16:12:33 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 16:12:31 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Kevin Yeung Cc: Aladdin Khamis , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Silly question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 29 Apr 1995, Kevin Yeung wrote: > On Thu, 27 Apr 1995, Aladdin Khamis wrote: > > > On Wed, 26 Apr 1995, Isaac Hepworth wrote: > > > > > > Why is pine called pine? > > > > > Pine(tm) --a Program for Internet News & Email-- is a tool for reading, > > That's fun. Versions before 3.91 can't handle news, if I'm not mistaken. > Prior to Pine 3.90, it was "Pine is Not Elm" among other things.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 17:47:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23989; Mon, 1 May 95 17:47:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21873; Mon, 1 May 95 17:35:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21867; Mon, 1 May 95 17:35:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s65i9-00038RC; Mon, 1 May 95 17:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mcravit@hawk.depaul.edu (Matthew Cravit) Subject: Building Pine/Pico under Solaris x86 Date: 1 May 1995 17:16:11 GMT Message-Id: <3o350r$lp7@hal.cs.depaul.edu> Status: O X-Status: I am having trouble building Pine under Solaris for Intel 2.4. When I try to compile it, I get a ton of warnings about conflicting type definitions for strcmp, strcpy, memcmp and memcpy, and the compile eventually dies without producing any binaries. If someone could either give me some pointers, or email me the binaries (for pine and pico) for Solaris x86, either would be appreciated. Also, in case it matters, I am using GCC 2.6.3, and it was installed according to the directions (and has compiled other stuff with no problem). I do not have the SUNWspro compilers on this system. Thanks, /Matthew Cravit, System Manager DePaul University UPIT-ATD -- Matthew Cravit, | "After all is said and done, Academic Technology Development | more is said than done." DePaul University, Chicago IL | -- Anonymous E-Mail: mcravit@hawk.depaul.edu +----------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 20:14:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27445; Mon, 1 May 95 20:14:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27876; Mon, 1 May 95 19:53:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27869; Mon, 1 May 95 19:53:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s67xR-00038SC; Mon, 1 May 95 19:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: julie5000@aol.com (Julie5000) Subject: cmsg cancel <3noupr$2uh@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 23:24:06 GMT Control: cancel <3noupr$2uh@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Status: O X-Status: Cancelling spam. See explanation in news.admin.net-abuse.misc. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 20:46:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28177; Mon, 1 May 95 20:46:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23888; Mon, 1 May 95 20:24:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23882; Mon, 1 May 95 20:24:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s68TI-00038TC; Mon, 1 May 95 20:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (Forrest Gump) Subject: Re: configure pine not to use MIME Date: 2 May 1995 01:09:35 GMT Message-Id: <3o40of$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Only by reading the file into the body of the message simply by using the ^R (Read File) command if it is a text file, first uuencoded if it is a binary file. But MIME is the future, and there are public domain MIME decoding s/w avail. for almost all platforms... even to those computers which say IntelInside :) Robert Ngu writes in comp.mail.pine: + Is there a way to configure pine not to use MIME format for sending attachme + files? This presents a problem for elm users that typically do not have MIME + tools or use pine. + Please help and send me responses at rngu@scdt.intel.com since I do not read + this newsgroup much. + Thanks in advance, + Bob -- Shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu | Mac*Chat ListOwner | http://monroe.temple.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 20:47:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28226; Mon, 1 May 95 20:47:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23898; Mon, 1 May 95 20:24:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [168.166.0.67] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23892; Mon, 1 May 95 20:24:57 -0700 Received: by services (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA01095; Mon, 1 May 1995 22:24:11 +0600 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 22:24:11 -0500 (CDT) From: James Proffer To: Steven de Mena Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Un-Subscribe to PINE mailing list In-Reply-To: <3o1rhr$ph6@news.annex.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 747 Status: O X-Status: to majordomo@cac.washington.edu send the following message unsubscribe pine-info Good Luck On 1 May 1995, Steven de Mena wrote: > Can someone E-Mail me and tell me how to un-subscribe to the "pine-info" > mailing list? > > Thanks, > > Steve > > -- > Steven de Mena > Sysop, Technical Operations - The Annex! BBS sdemena@annex.com > Telnet annex.com (204.74.67.1) Phone +1 818.779.5600 Los Angeles, CA > Missouri State Data Center <*>James Proffer: UNIX sysadm The Source for Missouri Info | Phone: (314) 751-1544 Fax: (314) 751-3299 FTP: services.state.mo.us | Internet: jproffer@services.state.mo.us Gopher: TBA | jproffer@mail.more.net WWW: http://www.ecodev.state.mo.us/mohome.htm From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 21:28:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29196; Mon, 1 May 95 21:28:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28832; Mon, 1 May 95 20:53:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28826; Mon, 1 May 95 20:53:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s68qD-00038TC; Mon, 1 May 95 20:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Filtering and IMAP Date: 1 May 1995 14:09:45 -0701 Message-Id: References: <199505011735.NAA11802@nefertiti.wang.com> Status: O X-Status: forrie@wang.com (Forrest Aldrich) writes: >How does one initiate filtering and such (as provided with procmail) if they >use the IMAP protocol? Do you have shell access to the machine that stores your mail folders? If so, just set things up in the usual way and the filtered folders will show up in your Pine folder list. I've set a lot of people up with PC-Pine to IMAP to access procmail-filtered folders on a Unix host. -- /\_/\ @..@ Please make sure your host gets the /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) new humanities.* newsgroups. Info ( o.o ) > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) is at http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 21:41:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29659; Mon, 1 May 95 21:41:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29231; Mon, 1 May 95 21:23:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29225; Mon, 1 May 95 21:23:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s69MD-00038TC; Mon, 1 May 95 21:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ecramer Subject: how to define username ??? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 01:18:29 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I recently started using pine on Linux 1.2.1. Altough I like it, there is one thing I can't figure out. How to change the left-hand side from my header. It's possible to set another domainname, so why isn't it possible to set another username. The only solution I could find is to add a user with the desired username to my system and start pine beeing that user. Can anybody help me :-( ------------------------------------------------------------------------- p.s. my email adress is ecramer@luna.nl (--NOT-- root@luna.nl, but that is ofcourse my problem I described before, so don't use reply) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Dekkers, Rotterdam, Holland. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 21:44:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29778; Mon, 1 May 95 21:44:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24610; Mon, 1 May 95 21:29:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24604; Mon, 1 May 95 21:29:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s69TR-00038XC; Mon, 1 May 95 21:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Martha Alvarez Subject: unsubscribe Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 11:39:03 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: unsubscribe comp.mail.pine Martha Alvarez From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 22:15:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00585; Mon, 1 May 95 22:15:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24400; Mon, 1 May 95 21:08:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24394; Mon, 1 May 95 21:08:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s696g-00038SC; Mon, 1 May 95 20:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: IMAP daemon as Mail-user agent Date: 2 May 1995 01:31:50 GMT Message-Id: <3o4226$1d3f@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3o3t8o$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <3o3t8o$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu>, Forrest Gump wrote: >In other words you are planning to write something better than Pine. Better than Pine? I'm writing a filtering agent. Since Pine isn't a filtering agent, how can any given filtering agent be "better than Pine"? -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 22:40:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01313; Mon, 1 May 95 22:40:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00266; Mon, 1 May 95 22:29:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00260; Mon, 1 May 95 22:29:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6ATO-00038SC; Mon, 1 May 95 22:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (Forrest Gump) Subject: Re: Resending messages - bounce? Date: 2 May 1995 00:45:29 GMT Message-Id: <3o3vb9$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: You can (B)ounce messages in Pine 3.90+ versions after you check the enable-bounce-cmd option in the Setup/Config screen. You need to upgrade from 3.89 to 3.91 for that. Tin-Mala writes in comp.mail.pine: + ~~~~~~~~~~~~Affirmative to the forward being automatically saved. You + have me wondering though about the "bounce" function - I didn't know one + could bounce individual msgs. Please tell me how! -- |~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/|\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~| | N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu | | Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support | | 'course my views don't reflect my Employers, neither mine at times. | |_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\|/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 23:29:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02249; Mon, 1 May 95 23:29:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25874; Mon, 1 May 95 23:19:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25868; Mon, 1 May 95 23:19:36 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25872; Mon, 1 May 95 23:19:34 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 23:19:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Trey Harris Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: forcing mail check In-Reply-To: <3o2tu1$1hla@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 1 May 1995, Trey Harris wrote: > Yay! The Pine development group has been incredible with their work on > this version. Every single minor new feature orbug fix I've been asking > for is supposed to be in it. Great work, guys! Thanks, but you're just lucky. Not everyone's feature requests (not even most of ours) will make it in. > Now, as long as I'm here, I'll add another request for a minor new > feature...no new bugs in 3.92? ;) 3.92 is turning out to be chock-full o' code changes so it is probably going to be more Beta-ey than 3.91 when it is first released. (That word I just made up is pronounced BAY TAH EEE and it means it probably won't work quite right for everyone. :-) Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 23:59:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02868; Mon, 1 May 95 23:59:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26182; Mon, 1 May 95 23:44:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26176; Mon, 1 May 95 23:44:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6BcO-00038SC; Mon, 1 May 95 23:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrea@pX1.stfx.ca (John Andrea) Subject: suggestion Message-Id: Date: 28 Apr 1995 12:03:38 -0300 Status: O X-Status: Heres a suggestion for printers, instead of just locking in a single configuration how about during the print command allowing for an option to modify the current print command. So that if it comes up with lpr -Pprinter the options are yes no and modify, and selecting modify allows you to change the name of the printer for this message. -- __________________________________________________________________ John Andrea St. Francis Xavier Univ. University Computer Services Antigonish, NS, CANADA B2G 2W5 http://www.stfx.ca/people/jandrea/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 00:14:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03281; Tue, 2 May 95 00:14:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01593; Tue, 2 May 95 00:09:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01587; Tue, 2 May 95 00:09:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6Bu7-00038TC; Mon, 1 May 95 23:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (Forrest Gump) Subject: Re: new-month messages Date: 1 May 1995 23:23:25 GMT Message-Id: <3o3qhd$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: If you feel, that you might accidently delete your previous sent-mail folders, then change the following option in your .pinerc to 99.9 and you won't be prompted for sent-mail pruning untill Oct 1999. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. last-time-prune-questioned=95.5 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl Reimann writes in comp.mail.pine: + I strongly dislike having Pine ask me if I would like to zap old + sent-mail folders. I could accidentally hit 'y' and loose tons of mail. I + would really like to see a way to turn that feature off as it is + extremely dangerous. + Carl -- __ ||| ___MMM___ ||| (o o) (0-0) (o o) ---------oOO--\ /--OOo-----oOO--(_)--OOo-----ooO--\ /--Ooo-------- N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support. Mama always told me "Speak for yourself Son, the World will listen" =================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 01:05:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04630; Tue, 2 May 95 01:05:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26996; Tue, 2 May 95 00:51:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26990; Tue, 2 May 95 00:51:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6Cdw-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 00:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: Re: Margins in pico Message-Id: References: <3lsg7j$54f@news.ysu.edu> Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 06:15:44 GMT Status: O X-Status: Bob Hogue (bob@cis.ysu.edu) decia: : I'm aware that control-J will rejustify a paragraph for me while using : the pico editor, but is there a way to change what it uses for the line : length when rejustifying? I'd like to make the lines a bit shorter than : what pico defaults to. Tnx for any help. No as far as I now... when I need to have less colums per line I use "joe". Would be nice if the nice people from the pine team at washington can find a way to configure pico for l/r margins :) Pucho : : ------------------------------------------------------------------- : Bob Hogue Computer & Information Sciences : Internet: bob@cis.ysu.edu Youngstown State University : Phone: 216/742-1775 Youngstown, OH 44555 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 01:55:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06012; Tue, 2 May 95 01:55:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02956; Tue, 2 May 95 01:44:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02944; Tue, 2 May 95 01:44:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6DTg-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 01:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Christian Fischer Subject: Pine under linux and DOS - lockfiles? Date: 2 May 1995 06:38:38 GMT Message-Id: <3o4k1e$do2@ns2.via.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I would like to use pine under linux and under DOS, using the same local message folders under both OS. I have set up pine under linux to access the folders on my DOS-partition. Now, the problem is that every time pine accesses a folder on this partition it tries to create a lockfile by appending .lock to the folder name. Since this is not possible on a DOS partition, pine just hangs for a few minutes and then gives a message like "cannot create lockfile ...". Is there a possibility to either change the format of the lockfiles or to disable lockfiles completely? Thanks for any info, ------------------------------------------------------------------ Christian Fischer ChFi@via.at ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 02:15:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06451; Tue, 2 May 95 02:15:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27986; Tue, 2 May 95 02:06:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27980; Tue, 2 May 95 02:06:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6Dpr-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 02:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andries Algera Subject: Lack of memory using PCPINE under WFW + TCP/IP Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 11:03:53 GMT Status: O X-Status: Recently I installed on acouple of PC's WFW+TCP/IP. This should enable me to run the winsocket version of pine3.91. However, at startup pine starts to complain about lack of memory, even after I freed up most of base memory using QEMM. Anyone out there who knows the solution? Thanks, Andries ------------------------------------------------------------ Andries Algera phone: +5561 347-5759 I accept MIME attachments and PGP encrypted messages. For my public PGP key: finger andries@alpha.itu.org.br ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 02:35:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06823; Tue, 2 May 95 02:35:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03425; Tue, 2 May 95 02:25:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03419; Tue, 2 May 95 02:25:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6E9B-00038TC; Tue, 2 May 95 02:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Leaving read messages in INBOX Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 20:56:49 +0100 Message-Id: References: <3nr97q$nlt@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3nr97q$nlt@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: On 28 Apr 1995, ben.rose wrote: > Barry Landy (bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk) wrote: > : On 28 Apr 1995, Leng Kaing wrote: > > : > Noam Ben Yochanan (noam@brachot.jct.ac.il) wrote: > : > > : > : Hello all, > : > > : > : In elm it's possible to leave read messages in the incomming mail file, > : > : meaning I can leave a message there until I deal with it. Pine doesn't seem > : > : to support this option. It considers every read message as deleted ('D') when > : > : exiting. This really sucks, pardon the expression. I got around it by > : > : undeleting all the messages I want to keep, expunging all the ones I want to > : > : delete and then exiting. This is of course error prone (I made the error > : > : today :-( ) and inelegant. > : > > : > > : > : Isn't there any way I can just tell the system to treat deleted/saved massges > : > : in a different maner than read messages? i.e. NEVER to have 'D' appear next > : > : to a message that was read but not deleted or saved? maybe an option in > : > : .pinerc I missed or misunderstud? > : > > : > : Please reply by e-mail. > : > > : > Mine only gets marked as Deleted if I save the file into a folder, or > : > delete it myself. Otherwise, it's left in the INBOX with no letters in front > : > (meaning it's been read). I'm using unix pine by the way. > : > > : And there is even an option so that save will not delete. > > : I agree with the last poster (Leng) that Pine does NOT mark read mail as > : Deleted - there is no option to set it up that way either. > > Incorrect answer. Zero points > > In the .pinerc file there is a flag that you can set to make it do either. > If you enter a folder name after read-message-folder= > it will save all read mail to this folder marking it deleted in the inbox. > Having this option set means the only mail in the inbox is the unread. > Sorry - I award you ZERO points! That option sets things up so that on exit Pine asks you if you wish to copy all read mail to the "read-message-folder"; only if it does that will it mark the mail deleted. It will then only expunge it if you say yes, unless you have yet another option set. However, in none of the scenarios is it simply marking read mail as deleted ***without taking a copy of it somewhere else***, and even with all these opptions set, you still get the chance to say NO. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This letter was brought to you in association with:- > Ben Rose > of Sunderland, England > > aka ha4bro@orac.sunderland.ac.uk > > ******** Why is there so much month left at the end of the money? ******** > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 03:02:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07532; Tue, 2 May 95 03:02:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28408; Tue, 2 May 95 02:51:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28402; Tue, 2 May 95 02:51:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6EVr-00038RC; Tue, 2 May 95 02:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (Forrest Gump) Subject: cmsg cancel <3o407c$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Control: cancel <3o407c$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Date: 2 May 1995 01:19:13 GMT Message-Id: <3o41ah$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 03:43:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08446; Tue, 2 May 95 03:43:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04297; Tue, 2 May 95 03:36:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04291; Tue, 2 May 95 03:36:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6FET-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 03:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "M.W.Belles" Subject: Help needed to limit scope of postings Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 09:24:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have read in various FAQ's that it is possible to post to a limited geographic area. I just posted to misc.wanted, and I was hoping that PINE would allow me to limit my posting to my local area, but it didn't. Did I miss a switch somewhere? I'd really appreciate some help as I do not want to pollute everyone's newgroup lists with worthless messages. Thanks from a newbie, Mark From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 03:56:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08790; Tue, 2 May 95 03:56:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28904; Tue, 2 May 95 03:45:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28898; Tue, 2 May 95 03:45:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6FOA-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 03:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: elmer@wpi.edu (Andrew Toppan) Subject: Re: How do you erase entries in the Address book? Date: 1 May 1995 12:25:26 GMT Message-Id: <3o2jvm$jjp@bigboote.WPI.EDU> References: <3o2fdu$5qk@smarty.smart.net> Status: O X-Status: Ken Kovler shaped the electrons to say: : I didn't see any command that would delete an entry in the pine address : book. : If anyone knows how to do this please let me know. How about the 'D' (Delete) command in Addressbook? -- Andrew Toppan --- elmer@wpi.edu --- http://www.wpi.edu/~elmer/ Railroads, Ships and Aircraft Homepage, Tom Clancy FAQ Archive "I am Pentium of Borg. Arithmetic is irrelevant. Prepare to be approximated." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 05:03:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11281; Tue, 2 May 95 05:03:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05457; Tue, 2 May 95 04:51:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05451; Tue, 2 May 95 04:51:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6GNI-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 04:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pfaffman@pilot.njin.net (Jay Pfaffman) Subject: Pine & Mercury's POP3 server Date: 1 May 1995 22:29:29 -0400 Message-Id: <3o45e9$342@pilot.njin.net> Status: O X-Status: I'm trying to use Pine on a Linux box to access mailboxes on a Novell server running Mercury's POP3 server. As unlikely as it sounds, I've managed to change Pine's global config file to point to the Mercury POP3 server & it works! Sometimes. Unfortunately, Pine craps out a lot of the time. Sometimes when opening the mailbox and sometimes when going from the Main Menu to the Index. I've not yet found any clues about what makes it bomb. Any ideas? If anyone can suggest other ways to access Mercury's mailboxes from a unix machine I'll be happy to hear them. Thanks -- Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relax.com 802-453-3344 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 05:55:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12442; Tue, 2 May 95 05:55:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00591; Tue, 2 May 95 05:45:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00585; Tue, 2 May 95 05:45:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6HEX-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 05:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cs307319@student.uq.edu.au (Julian Boot) Subject: Re: Leaving read messages in INBOX Date: 2 May 1995 12:13:48 GMT Message-Id: <3o57ls$7jm@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au> References: <3nr97q$nlt@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> <3o2ll8$mm5@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: ben.rose (ha4bro@orac.sunderland.ac.uk) wrote: : Sorry I was forgetting the confirmation bit. I have all confirmation : turned off in my .pinerc file. By setting a read-mail folder in .pinerc : all read mail is auto saved to read-mail and deleted from the inbox. If I : don't set it all read-mail stays in the inbox until deleted and or saved. With 3.91 at home under Linux this work fine. But on the Ultrix machine at uni, even with read-messages= set to nothing, it still prompts you to "Save read...in read-mail [Y/N]". It is very annoying. So some versions seem to have different options compiled in. I expect the local sysops are trying to keep the /var/spool/mail partition free of junk... -Julian -- cs307319@student.uq.oz.au -- Computer Science, Uni of Queensland A day without denial is day you've got to face! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 06:05:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12650; Tue, 2 May 95 06:05:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06343; Tue, 2 May 95 05:55:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06337; Tue, 2 May 95 05:55:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6HQZ-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 05:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kneppers@acs.ucalgary.ca (H. Marc Kneppers) Subject: Re: IMAP confusion (and addressbook too) Date: 1 May 1995 16:10:26 -0600 Message-Id: <3o3m8i$33s9@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , H. Marc Kneppers wrote: > >Problem is that I can't send mail. When I send it, the screen beeps at me >and then puts the cursor back up into the To: line. (a few seconds delay >here and there as well) >Thanks, > >Marc Kneppers >knepperm@cuug.ab.ca Sorry, I forgot to mention that the error I get is something like: protocol error: 421 (SMTP connection went away) Marc From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 06:14:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12843; Tue, 2 May 95 06:14:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00743; Tue, 2 May 95 06:00:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00737; Tue, 2 May 95 06:00:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6HVk-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 05:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "H. Marc Kneppers" Subject: Re: Security message Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 09:10:15 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 27 Apr 1995 Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM wrote: > This is caused by using pine and some versions of sendmail (8.6.9, > 8.6.10, 8.6.11). Upgrade to sendmail v 8.6.12 which cures most of these > types of problems. Where can I find sendmail.8.6.12? I've looked all over and the highest I can get is 8.6.10 Thanks Marc kneppers@acs.ucalgary.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 06:54:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13610; Tue, 2 May 95 06:54:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01272; Tue, 2 May 95 06:45:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01266; Tue, 2 May 95 06:45:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6I9X-00038SC; Tue, 2 May 95 06:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fuzzy Subject: test keyword for post Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 03:04:07 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: added organization header *sigh* still thing we shouldnt have to edit all users files .pinerc's tho there has to be a simpler way to get the enviroment variable ORGANZATION picked up as the organization: header value by default, like all the other news posters do. fuz From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 06:55:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13641; Tue, 2 May 95 06:55:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07016; Tue, 2 May 95 06:45:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07010; Tue, 2 May 95 06:45:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6I6a-00038RC; Tue, 2 May 95 06:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (Forrest Gump) Subject: Re: IMAP daemon as Mail-user agent Date: 2 May 1995 00:10:00 GMT Message-Id: <3o3t8o$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: IMAP an MUA ? IMAP is a driver, more appropriately a protocol by which mailfile gets transmitted. It is a much much improved POP3 like protocol. (read Terry Gray's fine article on the diff. between IMAP and POP) You can write an MUA which uses IMAP to download mail from a mail-server. In other words you are planning to write something better than Pine. Good Luck! Trey Harris writes in comp.mail.pine: + (Is there a newsgroup for IMAP? A grep imap in my active file revealed + nothing...) + I am writing a Mail-user agent (MUA) for my users. Not a generalized + program for their everyday mailreading, but rather to do some things that + my users are always asking me how to do and takes twenty or thirty + commands in pine (more if they don't yet have the aggregate-command-set + enabled). However, since the program would have to access the mailboxes + and change their contents, it does meet the definition of a MUA. + Since my users operate over a sealed IMAP server, we cannot allow them a + mail filtering program such as procmail (if anyone has ideas on this, let + me know). So, I'm writing a simple program that will filter a user's + current mailbox at login time via IMAP. + My question is this: it appears to me that, if I use IMAP and only IMAP + (i.e., I don't write anything in my script that will deal with Unix + textfile INBOXes), that I can jettison all the code one ordinarily must + write to deal with mailbox locking, because the IMAP daemon is already + doing them for me. + Am I correct? In essence, in an IMAP client/server situation, isn't it + the IMAP daemon which is the MUA for mail reading, since it is handling + all the locking issues and mail message formats? + (Oh, by the way, I'm not totally aversive to writing mailbox-locking + routines, I've just never done it before. If anyone knows where I can go + to read everything I ever wanted to know about mailbox locking, please do + let me know.) + -- + Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris + System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology + The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill -- Shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu | Mac*Chat ListOwner | http://monroe.temple.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 07:00:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13769; Tue, 2 May 95 07:00:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07024; Tue, 2 May 95 06:45:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07018; Tue, 2 May 95 06:45:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6IBC-00038TC; Tue, 2 May 95 06:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (Forrest Gump) Subject: Re: Help needed to limit scope of postings Date: 1 May 1995 23:45:25 GMT Message-Id: <3o3rql$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: You need an "Distribution:" header, which you can create in the customized-header and then invoke it while composing a post using ^R (for Rich headers) and adding values to it like Distribution: USA Distribution: temple Distribution: world is the default. M.W.Belles writes in comp.mail.pine: + I have read in various FAQ's that it is possible to post to a limited + geographic area. I just posted to misc.wanted, and I was hoping that + PINE would allow me to limit my posting to my local area, but it didn't. + Did I miss a switch somewhere? I'd really appreciate some help as I do + not want to pollute everyone's newgroup lists with worthless messages. + Thanks from a newbie, + Mark -- __ ||| ___MMM___ ||| (o o) (0-0) (o o) ---------oOO--\ /--OOo-----oOO--(_)--OOo-----ooO--\ /--Ooo-------- N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support. Mama always told me "Speak for yourself Son, the World will listen" =================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 07:14:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14287; Tue, 2 May 95 07:14:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01472; Tue, 2 May 95 07:01:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [137.98.200.54] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01466; Tue, 2 May 95 07:01:38 -0700 Received: (from stares@localhost) by lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.dhl.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA07176; Tue, 2 May 1995 15:00:49 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 15:00:47 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM X-Sender: stares@lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.dhl.com To: "H. Marc Kneppers" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Security message In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are my own and not my employers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 27 Apr 1995, H. Marc Kneppers wrote: >From the sendmail FAQ: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * Where can I get Version 8? Via anonymous FTP from FTP.CS.Berkeley.EDU in /ucb/sendmail. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Try here for the latest version. Regards Stuart > > > On 27 Apr 1995 Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM wrote: > > > This is caused by using pine and some versions of sendmail (8.6.9, > > 8.6.10, 8.6.11). Upgrade to sendmail v 8.6.12 which cures most of these > > types of problems. > > Where can I find sendmail.8.6.12? > > I've looked all over and the highest I can get is 8.6.10 > > Thanks > > Marc > kneppers@acs.ucalgary.ca > ---- Stuart Tares Email : Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM Senior Network Analyst Voice : +44 181 742 4060 DHL Systems Ltd, CSG Europe & Africa Region From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 07:26:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14733; Tue, 2 May 95 07:26:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07453; Tue, 2 May 95 07:10:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07447; Tue, 2 May 95 07:10:00 -0700 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA12339; Tue, 2 May 1995 10:08:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 10:08:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael C. Newell" To: "H. Marc Kneppers" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Security message In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I got mine from "ftp.uu.net" in the "networking" (?) tree (I think it was "networking/mail"?). It was pretty easy to find there... Mike On Thu, 27 Apr 1995, H. Marc Kneppers wrote: > Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 09:10:15 -0600 > From: H. Marc Kneppers > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Security message > > > > On 27 Apr 1995 Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM wrote: > > > This is caused by using pine and some versions of sendmail (8.6.9, > > 8.6.10, 8.6.11). Upgrade to sendmail v 8.6.12 which cures most of these > > types of problems. > > Where can I find sendmail.8.6.12? > > I've looked all over and the highest I can get is 8.6.10 > > Thanks > > Marc > kneppers@acs.ucalgary.ca > Thanks, Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |Sterling Software, Inc. | reflect those of the NSI program, | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | Sterling Software, NASA, or anyone | |+1-202-434-8954 | else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 07:58:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15690; Tue, 2 May 95 07:58:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02254; Tue, 2 May 95 07:50:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02248; Tue, 2 May 95 07:50:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6JCP-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 07:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (Forrest Gump) Subject: Re: Resending messages - bug? Date: 2 May 1995 00:36:27 GMT Message-Id: <3o3uqb$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Or you can just check the following option in your Setup/Config screen. [X] Save-will-not-delete But still (F)orward or (B)ounce makes more sense.... + Dave Saville writes: + >I have been using the usual suggested methed for resending a message. ie + >saving to postponed-msgs and then compose. + > + >Message is NOT saved to sent-mail - if you forget to toggle the delete flag + >you've lost it. + Why don't you just use the forward or bounce command? I think that + when you forward a message it will automatically get saved in your + default save file but when you bounce a msg it isn't saved. + -- + /\_/\ @..@ Please make sure your host gets the /\_/\ + ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) new humanities.* newsgroups. Info ( o.o ) + > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) is at http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < -- Shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu | Mac*Chat ListOwner | http://monroe.temple.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 08:55:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17934; Tue, 2 May 95 08:55:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03388; Tue, 2 May 95 08:41:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03382; Tue, 2 May 95 08:41:53 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01273; Tue, 2 May 95 08:41:49 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 08:41:47 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Julian Boot Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Leaving read messages in INBOX In-Reply-To: <3o57ls$7jm@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 2 May 1995, Julian Boot wrote: > Date: 2 May 1995 12:13:48 GMT > From: Julian Boot > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Leaving read messages in INBOX > > ben.rose (ha4bro@orac.sunderland.ac.uk) wrote: > > : Sorry I was forgetting the confirmation bit. I have all confirmation > : turned off in my .pinerc file. By setting a read-mail folder in .pinerc > : all read mail is auto saved to read-mail and deleted from the inbox. If I > : don't set it all read-mail stays in the inbox until deleted and or saved. > > With 3.91 at home under Linux this work fine. But on the Ultrix machine > at uni, even with read-messages= set to nothing, it still prompts you > to "Save read...in read-mail [Y/N]". It is very annoying. So some > versions seem to have different options compiled in. I expect > the local sysops are trying to keep the /var/spool/mail partition > free of junk... > There are two system-wide configuration files that can change the behavior here. Default values are set in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf and unchangeable settings are set in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed. Check the value of read-message-folder in those files and in your ~/.pinerc file. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 09:02:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18260; Tue, 2 May 95 09:02:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03491; Tue, 2 May 95 08:45:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03485; Tue, 2 May 95 08:45:45 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01365; Tue, 2 May 95 08:45:42 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 08:45:40 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Taner Halicioglu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine & PGP In-Reply-To: <3num3u$b92@rosebud.sdsc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 30 Apr 1995, Taner Halicioglu wrote: > I have seen about/heard about several scripts to PGP-sign a message that > was written in pine, but I was wondering if this is another thing that > might be included in the next release of pine or not. > The next release of Pine will indeed have hooks to make it easierr to use PGP. You will probably still want a script, but you won't need the alternate-editor hack... > One other small thing about pico: It would be nice if I can change the > point of word wrap on the fly... instead of automagically being -3 chars > from the right edge (or whatever it is) I can set it to column X, or > even maybe column 0 if I don't even want to wrap at all... > We are considering this... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 09:06:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18945; Tue, 2 May 95 09:06:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09663; Tue, 2 May 95 08:55:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09657; Tue, 2 May 95 08:55:12 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01757; Tue, 2 May 95 08:55:09 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 08:55:07 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Nancy McGough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Filtering and IMAP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Filtering on a black-box IMAP server (no shell access) is currently an unsolved problem. We have implemented a partial solution in our tmail delivery agent by supporting "user+folder" addressing, e.g. if you send a message to dlm+pine@cac.washington.edu it will be delivered straight to my "pine" incoming folder.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 1 May 1995, Nancy McGough wrote: > Date: 1 May 1995 14:09:45 -0701 > From: Nancy McGough > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Filtering and IMAP > > forrie@wang.com (Forrest Aldrich) writes: > >How does one initiate filtering and such (as provided with procmail) if they > >use the IMAP protocol? > > > Do you have shell access to the machine that stores your mail folders? > If so, just set things up in the usual way and the filtered folders > will show up in your Pine folder list. I've set a lot of people up > with PC-Pine to IMAP to access procmail-filtered folders on a Unix host. > -- > /\_/\ @..@ Please make sure your host gets the /\_/\ > ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) new humanities.* newsgroups. Info ( o.o ) > > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) is at http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 09:21:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19366; Tue, 2 May 95 09:21:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04163; Tue, 2 May 95 09:08:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04157; Tue, 2 May 95 09:08:03 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02989; Tue, 2 May 95 09:07:57 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 09:07:56 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Forrest Gump , Trey Harris Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP daemon as Mail-user agent In-Reply-To: <3o4226$1d3f@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > Trey Harris writes in comp.mail.pine: > + (Is there a newsgroup for IMAP? A grep imap in my active file revealed > + nothing...) > There is an IMAP mailing list. Send a message to imap-request@cac.washington.edu to subscribe... > + I am writing a Mail-user agent (MUA) for my users. Not a generalized > + program for their everyday mailreading, but rather to do some things that > + my users are always asking me how to do and takes twenty or thirty > + commands in pine (more if they don't yet have the aggregate-command-set > + enabled). However, since the program would have to access the mailboxes > + and change their contents, it does meet the definition of a MUA. > > + Since my users operate over a sealed IMAP server, we cannot allow them a > + mail filtering program such as procmail (if anyone has ideas on this, let > + me know). So, I'm writing a simple program that will filter a user's > + current mailbox at login time via IMAP. > Great! Let us know how it works... > + My question is this: it appears to me that, if I use IMAP and only IMAP > + (i.e., I don't write anything in my script that will deal with Unix > + textfile INBOXes), that I can jettison all the code one ordinarily must > + write to deal with mailbox locking, because the IMAP daemon is already > + doing them for me. > Correct, mailbox locking is the responsibility of the IMAP server in this situation. > + Am I correct? In essence, in an IMAP client/server situation, isn't it > + the IMAP daemon which is the MUA for mail reading, since it is handling > + all the locking issues and mail message formats? > I wouldn't call IMAP an MUA, just a message access protocol :) BTW, are you writing the IMAP code from scratch or using the c-client library? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 09:26:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19472; Tue, 2 May 95 09:26:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04217; Tue, 2 May 95 09:10:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04211; Tue, 2 May 95 09:10:32 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03036; Tue, 2 May 95 09:10:08 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 09:10:06 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Fuzzy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: test keyword for post In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: If you put the entry in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf, you don't need to edit anyone's .pinerc file... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 2 May 1995, Fuzzy wrote: > Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 03:04:07 GMT > From: Fuzzy > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: test keyword for post > > > added organization header > > *sigh* still thing we shouldnt have to edit all users files .pinerc's tho > > there has to be a simpler way to get the enviroment variable ORGANZATION > picked up as the organization: header value by default, like all the > other news posters do. > > fuz > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 09:42:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20046; Tue, 2 May 95 09:42:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09820; Tue, 2 May 95 09:00:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09814; Tue, 2 May 95 09:00:24 -0700 Received: from tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24673; Tue, 2 May 95 08:59:58 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 08:59:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Crispin To: Christian Fischer Cc: Terry Gray , Pine Suggestions , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine under linux and DOS - lockfiles? In-Reply-To: <3o4k1e$do2@ns2.via.at> Message-Id: Organization: Networks & Distributed Computing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: The brief answer to your question is "no". The name of the lockfile is something that is established by convention on Unix, and is used by other Unix tools. Since other Unix tools use mail files as well, what you're trying to do isn't likely to work well. We do, however, provide source code, so you can try to modify the routine bezerk_lock() in imap/c-client/bezerk.c so that it doesn't try to make the files. You may find that this is problematic for other reasons though. Are you aware that the Unix mbox format is only supported as a read-only format in PC-Pine? If you want a read-write format on both systems, you need to use the MTX format. The file name for INBOX is INBOX.MTX in the home directory. This is a non-standard format for Unix. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. On 2 May 1995, Christian Fischer wrote: > I would like to use pine under linux and under DOS, using the same local > message folders under both OS. I have set up pine under linux to access the > folders on my DOS-partition. Now, the problem is that every time pine accesses > a folder on this partition it tries to create a lockfile by appending .lock to > the folder name. Since this is not possible on a DOS partition, pine just hangs > for a few minutes and then gives a message like "cannot create lockfile ...". > > Is there a possibility to either change the format of the lockfiles or to > disable lockfiles completely? > > Thanks for any info, > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Christian Fischer ChFi@via.at > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 09:51:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20534; Tue, 2 May 95 09:51:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10945; Tue, 2 May 95 09:41:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jupiter.stat.wisc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10939; Tue, 2 May 95 09:41:26 -0700 Received: by jupiter.stat.wisc.edu; Tue, 2 May 95 11:36:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 11:36:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Douglas Bates To: Mike Brudenell Cc: "Douglas M. Bates" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Unix Pine: Must the config be in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 1 May 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > The names of the configuration and fixed configuration files are held in > operating system specific include files. Going off memory these live in > the pine/osdep/ directory of your unpacked Pine kit. Find the > appropriate .h file and modify the neam(s) appropriately. Thanks for the hint - it worked fine. I believe there are still several explicit references to the files /usr/local/lib/pine.conf and /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed in the documentation that is compiled into pine, however. This could be moderately confusing to users. Douglas Bates bates@stat.wisc.edu Statistics Department 608/262-2598 University of Wisconsin - Madison http://www.stat.wisc.edu/~bates/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 10:39:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22359; Tue, 2 May 95 10:39:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12044; Tue, 2 May 95 10:30:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12038; Tue, 2 May 95 10:30:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6LjL-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 10:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bparker@interaccess.com (Ben Parker) Subject: Re: "Message to save shrank!" Date: Tue, 02 May 1995 02:48:37 GMT Message-Id: <3o46mf$okj@nntp.interaccess.com> References: <3o3p7m$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: shrim@bubba.temple.edu (Forrest Gump) wrote: >This means the user was using Pine and at the same time another POP >e-mail s/w (like Eudora) which made a mailcheck and downloaded the >mail. I have had users recieve messages saying INBOX shrank to 0bytes. >Make sure they use one MUA to read mail at any given time. This may sometimes be a cause of this but it is not the only one. I had this problem for a while from only one person sending me mail from their site. When they sent from a differrent site (different mailer) no problem. I am absolutely sure I am the only one reading my mailbox and only (always) with pine. I tried a binary analysis of the mailfile but could not find any differences. ================== Ben Parker (IL) bparker@interaccess.com 71450.2735@compuserve.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 10:59:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22984; Tue, 2 May 95 10:59:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06290; Tue, 2 May 95 10:50:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06284; Tue, 2 May 95 10:50:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6Lzj-00038SC; Tue, 2 May 95 10:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edwardy@mana.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Edward Yagi) Subject: Re: Silly question Date: 1 May 1995 21:21:58 GMT Message-Id: <3o3jdm$ofe@kahu.mrtc.maui.com> References: <3nlglq$igb@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: Isaac Hepworth (ijh1000@cam.ac.uk) wrote: : Silly question, but the right place to put it I think : : Why is pine called pine? >From what I understand, pine stands for P ine I s N ot E lm *shrug* or should that be.. *shrub* Edward yagi -- H I G H T E C H N O L O G Y D E V E L O P M E N T C O R P O R A T I O N EDWARD K. Y A G I - Hawaii State Agency - Hawaii Software Service Center Computer Specialist - phone:(808)539-3608 - M a n o a Innovation Center edwardy@htdc.org - f a x:(808)539-3611 - 2800 Woodlawn Drive Suite 100 G E T W E B B E D - http://www.htdc.org - Honolulu, Hawaii 96822-1863 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 11:01:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23092; Tue, 2 May 95 11:01:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12680; Tue, 2 May 95 10:55:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12674; Tue, 2 May 95 10:55:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6M3t-00038RC; Tue, 2 May 95 10:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: iuguest@ix.netcom.com (IU) Subject: NetCruiser and PCPine Date: 29 Apr 1995 06:08:29 GMT Message-Id: <3nsl4t$ch6@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Status: O X-Status: Has anyone with a NetCruiser account gotten PCPine to work on their remote PC? I am trying to use /usr/spool/mail/myname for the inbox and maill.ix.netcom.com as the SMTP as I caught from a message a little while ago, but truthfully I don't remember if that was right. If anyone has any ideas please help! IUguest@ix.netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 12:32:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28017; Tue, 2 May 95 12:32:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08303; Tue, 2 May 95 12:21:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08297; Tue, 2 May 95 12:21:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6NO1-00038SC; Tue, 2 May 95 12:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmarshall@flash.rdc.ab.ca (John Marshall, Red Deer College, (4) Subject: Inbox path on a VAX (possible?) Message-Id: <1995May2.115353@ns.rdc.ab.ca> Date: 2 May 95 11:53:53 MDT Status: O X-Status: Is it possible for Pine (on a PC) to access the mail files on a VAX. The VAX and the PC have IP addresses. The VAX is running PMDF and VMS pine. I cant seem to find an acceptable "inbox path". I'm Trying to find a multiplatform mail program (VMS, PC and MAC) and I was hoping PINE might be able to do it. John Marshall From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 13:33:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01771; Tue, 2 May 95 13:33:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16521; Tue, 2 May 95 13:12:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16515; Tue, 2 May 95 13:12:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6OEf-00038SC; Tue, 2 May 95 13:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@YFN.YSU.EDU (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: IMAP daemon as Mail-user agent Date: 2 May 1995 19:50:26 GMT Message-Id: <3o62e2$nuv@news.ysu.edu> References: <3o4226$1d3f@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: In a previous article, dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller) says: >> Trey Harris writes in comp.mail.pine: >> + (Is there a newsgroup for IMAP? A grep imap in my active file revealed >> + nothing...) > >There is an IMAP mailing list. Send a message to >imap-request@cac.washington.edu to subscribe... I note with glee that, similar to the pine-info mailing list, the IMAP discussion is archived on the Pine FTP server. This means that it can be accessed via anonymous IMAP, for people who want to catch up, but without downloading the whole archive, or for people who want to drop in and listen without actually subscribing. As noted in a previous post, the syntax for accessing it is specific to Pine3.xx and IMAP2bis, but for now it looks like this list, and a list for discussing the C-Client, can be snooped on with folder specifications Folder-Name *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}imap/[imap_archive] or /[c-client_archive] . There may well be other mailing list archives elsewhere on this server, or perhaps there are other servers with additional mailing list archives which would be of interest to people to browse in this manner... Now I have yet another excuse not to have a life! Yay!! -- Barry Bouwsma, will crash computers for chocolate and dental care Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) LOAD "SENDMAIL",8,1 driving a 300 baud Trabant on the Datenautobahn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 13:57:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02963; Tue, 2 May 95 13:57:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10241; Tue, 2 May 95 13:35:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10235; Tue, 2 May 95 13:35:11 -0700 Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V4.3-13 #2001) id <01HQ12H80X0G8WVYPK@INNOSOFT.COM>; Tue, 02 May 1995 13:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 02 May 1995 13:34:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Portia Shao Subject: Re: Inbox path on a VAX (possible?) In-Reply-To: <1995May2.115353@ns.rdc.ab.ca> To: jmarshall@ns.rdc.ab.ca Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 2 May 1995 jmarshall@flash.rdc.ab.ca wrote: > > Is it possible for Pine (on a PC) to access the mail files > on a VAX. The VAX and the PC have IP addresses. The VAX is > running PMDF and VMS pine. I cant seem to find an acceptable > "inbox path". Is it running the IMAP server also? you should be able to use Pine to access the mail file on VMS if yes. > > I'm Trying to find a multiplatform mail program (VMS, PC and > MAC) and I was hoping PINE might be able to do it. try inbox-path={VMSsystemname}INBOX or inbox-path={VMSsystemname}NEWMAIL you can also have in the folder-collections something like folder-collections=vax {VMSsystemname}[], other things... > > > John Marshall > > > /portia portia@innosoft.com Innosoft International Inc. (818)919-3600 voice, (818)919-3614 fax 1050 East Garvey Ave South, West Covina, CA 91790 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 15:18:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07114; Tue, 2 May 95 15:18:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12179; Tue, 2 May 95 15:06:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12173; Tue, 2 May 95 15:06:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6Pyw-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 14:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: IMAP daemon as Mail-user agent Date: 1 May 1995 15:38:38 GMT Message-Id: <3o2v9u$176c@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: (Is there a newsgroup for IMAP? A grep imap in my active file revealed nothing...) I am writing a Mail-user agent (MUA) for my users. Not a generalized program for their everyday mailreading, but rather to do some things that my users are always asking me how to do and takes twenty or thirty commands in pine (more if they don't yet have the aggregate-command-set enabled). However, since the program would have to access the mailboxes and change their contents, it does meet the definition of a MUA. Since my users operate over a sealed IMAP server, we cannot allow them a mail filtering program such as procmail (if anyone has ideas on this, let me know). So, I'm writing a simple program that will filter a user's current mailbox at login time via IMAP. My question is this: it appears to me that, if I use IMAP and only IMAP (i.e., I don't write anything in my script that will deal with Unix textfile INBOXes), that I can jettison all the code one ordinarily must write to deal with mailbox locking, because the IMAP daemon is already doing them for me. Am I correct? In essence, in an IMAP client/server situation, isn't it the IMAP daemon which is the MUA for mail reading, since it is handling all the locking issues and mail message formats? (Oh, by the way, I'm not totally aversive to writing mailbox-locking routines, I've just never done it before. If anyone knows where I can go to read everything I ever wanted to know about mailbox locking, please do let me know.) -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 15:27:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07592; Tue, 2 May 95 15:27:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19330; Tue, 2 May 95 15:04:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from p15.tpl0.nwrain.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19314; Tue, 2 May 95 15:04:48 -0700 Received: by pppbox.baby-dragons.com (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA01483; Tue, 2 May 95 15:06:40 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 15:06:37 -0700 (PDT) From: babydr X-Sender: babydr@pppbox.baby-dragons.com To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: I seem to have something amiss here . Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Gents/Ladies, I'm not sure what I did wrong the second time but pine just won't compile now, also the reason I was re-compiling pine was to get 'imapd' which didn't get made the first time. So I thought I'd just start over. Now, only pico compiles !? :-{ stats: DEC Vax, Ultrix v4.2 (yes I know it's old, but all I have) DEC cc, ( I also have gcc2.5.7 But don't seem to be able to use it here ? ) appended is the log file for a fresh dir-tree of pine3.91. ThranxAI, Jim ---------------------------- build logfile ---------------------------------- make args are "CC=cc" Making c-client library, mtest and imapd make build SYSTYPE=non-ANSI OS=ult echo ult > OSTYPE rm -rf systype ln -s non-ANSI systype cd non-ANSI/c-client; make ult make mtest OS=ult EXTRADRIVERS="" STDPROTO=bezerkproto CFLAGS="-g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= " LDFLAGS="-lauth" ./drivers imap nntp pop3 mh mtx tenex mmdf bezerk news phile dummy rm -f OSTYPE CFLAGS LDFLAGS osdep.h echo ult > OSTYPE echo -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= > CFLAGS echo -lauth > LDFLAGS ln -s os_ult.h osdep.h cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c mail.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c bezerk.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c mtx.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c tenex2.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c mbox.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c mh.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c mmdf.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c imap2.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c pop3.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c news.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c nntpcunx.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c phile.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c dummy.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c smtp.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c nntp.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c rfc822.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c misc.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -DSTDPROTO=bezerkproto -DRSH=\"rsh\" -DRSHPATH=\"/usr/ucb/rsh\" -c os_ult.c mv os_ult.o osdep.o cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c sm_unix.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c newsrc.c rm -f c-client.a ar rc c-client.a mail.o bezerk.o mtx.o tenex2.o mbox.o mh.o mmdf.o imap2.o pop3.o news.o nntpcunx.o phile.o dummy.o smtp.o nntp.o rfc822.o misc.o osdep.o sm_unix.o newsrc.o ranlib c-client.a cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c mtest.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -o mtest mtest.o c-client.a -lauth ld:800: cannot open *** Error code 4 *** Error code 1 *** Error code 1 *** Error code 1 Making Pico rm -f osdep.c cp os_unix.c osdep.c rm -f osdep.h cp os_unix.h osdep.h cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g attach.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g ansi.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g basic.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g bind.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g browse.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g buffer.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g composer.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g display.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g file.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g fileio.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g line.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g osdep.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g pico.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g random.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g region.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g search.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g spell.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g tcap.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g window.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g word.c ar ru libpico.a attach.o ansi.o basic.o bind.o browse.o buffer.o composer.o display.o file.o fileio.o line.o osdep.o pico.o random.o region.o search.o spell.o tcap.o window.o word.o ranlib libpico.a cc -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g main.c libpico.a -ltermcap -lc -o pico Making Pine. rm -f os.h ln -s osdep/os-ult.h os.h ./cmplhlp2.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.h cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c addrbook.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c adrbklib.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c args.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c context.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c filter.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c folder.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c help.c ./cmplhelp.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c helptext.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c imap.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c init.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c mailcap.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c mailcmd.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c mailindx.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c mailpart.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c mailview.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c newmail.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c other.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c pine.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c print.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c reply.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c screen.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c send.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c signals.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c status.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c strings.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c ttyin.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c ttyout.c cd osdep; make includer os-ult.c; cd .. cc -o includer includer.c ./includer < os-ult.ic > os-ult.c rm -f os.c ln -s osdep/os-ult.c os.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c os.c echo "char datestamp[]="\"`date`\"";" > date.c cc -c -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -o date.o date.c cc: -o would overwrite date.o *** Error code 8 Links to executables are in bin directory: size: bin/pine not found size: bin/mtest not found size: bin/imapd not found text data bss dec hex 131072 27648 14268 172988 2a3bc bin/pico Done From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 16:04:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09271; Tue, 2 May 95 16:04:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20601; Tue, 2 May 95 15:56:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20595; Tue, 2 May 95 15:56:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6QlO-00038RC; Tue, 2 May 95 15:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "H. Marc Kneppers" Subject: Re: IMAP confusion (and addressbook too) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 16:06:39 -0600 Message-Id: References: <97dc-0105951148430001@student_97dc.williams.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 2 May 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > "SMTP connection went away" indicates that the connection to the SMTP > server closed unexpectedly. I wonder if there might be some sort of > "security" feature on the UNIX machine that prevents SMTP from the PC from > working. Can you telnet to port 25 on the UNIX server from the PC? Yup. I can telnet to port 25 and also port 143 if that helps any. There's an ethernet connection between the PC and Unix. I'm not sure if the Unix machine even knows that the request is coming from a PC. It's (supposedly) standard Svr4 UNIX, with a few Tandem add-ons. If it is a security feature - I haven't heard of it through the local documentation. Would you expect anything different if I was running the sendmail daemon instead of smtpd? (I somehow doubt it.) Marc kneppers@acs.ucalgary.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 17:24:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17434; Tue, 2 May 95 17:24:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14896; Tue, 2 May 95 17:06:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14890; Tue, 2 May 95 17:06:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6RrI-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 17:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bagwill@dove.nist.gov (Robert Bagwill) Subject: Re: IMAP daemon as Mail-user agent Date: 2 May 1995 17:50:23 GMT Message-Id: <3o5rcv$7iq@dove.nist.gov> References: <3o2v9u$176c@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Trey Harris (harris@email.unc.edu) wrote: : Since my users operate over a sealed IMAP server, we cannot allow them a : mail filtering program such as procmail (if anyone has ideas on this, let : me know). So, I'm writing a simple program that will filter a user's : current mailbox at login time via IMAP. You don't have to install procmail as a delivery-time filter. Using the -m flag, users can invoke it themselves, or it can be invoked on their behalf by a script. Of course, I don't know what your configuration is, so I don't know if that's feasible for you. -- Bob Bagwill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 17:26:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17492; Tue, 2 May 95 17:26:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27733; Tue, 2 May 95 17:11:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27727; Tue, 2 May 95 17:11:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6Rxf-00038TC; Tue, 2 May 95 17:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: cmsg cancel <3nr6me$kv5@grape.epix.net> Control: cancel <3nr6me$kv5@grape.epix.net> Date: 28 Apr 1995 17:00:44 GMT Message-Id: <3nr6vs$8f@grape.epix.net> Status: O X-Status: Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 17:37:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17934; Tue, 2 May 95 17:37:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15222; Tue, 2 May 95 17:26:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15216; Tue, 2 May 95 17:25:58 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 3 May 95 08:24:39 -0800 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 08:24:38 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "H. Marc Kneppers" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP confusion (and addressbook too) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 2 May 1995, H. Marc Kneppers wrote: > On Tue, 2 May 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > > > "SMTP connection went away" indicates that the connection to the SMTP > > server closed unexpectedly. I wonder if there might be some sort of > > "security" feature on the UNIX machine that prevents SMTP from the PC from > > working. Can you telnet to port 25 on the UNIX server from the PC? > > Yup. I can telnet to port 25 and also port 143 if that helps any. > There's an ethernet connection between the PC and Unix. I'm not sure if > the Unix machine even knows that the request is coming from a PC. > It's (supposedly) standard Svr4 UNIX, with a few Tandem add-ons. If it is > a security feature - I haven't heard of it through the local documentation. > > Would you expect anything different if I was running the sendmail daemon > instead of smtpd? (I somehow doubt it.) What TCP/IP stack are you running on the PC? I've seen problems with FTP Software's stack in version 2.3 and below. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 18:10:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18614; Tue, 2 May 95 18:10:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15542; Tue, 2 May 95 17:46:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15536; Tue, 2 May 95 17:46:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6STS-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 17:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: IMAP confusion (and addressbook too) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 12:50:32 -0700 Message-Id: References: <97dc-0105951148430001@student_97dc.williams.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: "SMTP connection went away" indicates that the connection to the SMTP server closed unexpectedly. I wonder if there might be some sort of "security" feature on the UNIX machine that prevents SMTP from the PC from working. Can you telnet to port 25 on the UNIX server from the PC? -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. On Tue, 2 May 1995, H. Marc Kneppers wrote: > > On Mon, 1 May 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > > > You don't need an SMTP gateway, but do you do need an SMTP server > > somewhere to talk to. If your PC is on the Internet, almost any system > > will do, but you should probably pick a machine that is local to you > > (e.g. your local UNIX machine). > > > > You tell PC-Pine which server to use by setting the smtp-server > > configuration parameter. > > > > I've got the server - you're right, it's our local UNIX machine. > WHen I send mail however, it doesn't work. I get the messages that the > SMTP connection "went away". > THe machine I am connecting to is running svr4 UNIX and it handles SMTP > just fine. > I've got the smtp-server configuration parameter set to the UNIX machine's > name and that works fine since I can go to the UNIX machine and > get IMAP to serve me a file. > > Are there any permissions that I need to set or extra files that I need to > enter the IMAP service in (other than /etc/services and inetd.conf)? > > Does SMTP need to be told to expect mail from outside the local machine > or does IMAp take care of that? We aren't connected to the net yet but we do > have IP addressed on the UNIX machine and the PC's > > Thanks > Marc Kneppers > kneppers@acs.ucalgary.ca > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 18:42:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19316; Tue, 2 May 95 18:42:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29000; Tue, 2 May 95 18:31:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28994; Tue, 2 May 95 18:31:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6TDg-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 18:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cn1491@coastalnet.com (Shannon Adams) Subject: Re: From Address Wrong in Pine Date: 3 May 1995 00:55:21 GMT Message-Id: <3o6k9r$shk@treasure.coastalnet.com> References: <3o1cca$d5q@treasure.coastalnet.com> Status: O X-Status: Second request: Please help! >When I use mailx, my FROM: address is shannona@htc8500.com which is correct. >However, when using Pine, my FROM: is htc8500!shannona - what gives? >I assume this is a configuration issue. Please help. All of my >mail is bouncing when someone replies to me. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 18:55:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19616; Tue, 2 May 95 18:55:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16246; Tue, 2 May 95 18:46:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16240; Tue, 2 May 95 18:46:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6TRZ-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 18:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: 97dc@williams.edu (DeWitt Clinton) Subject: Switching to emacs Date: Mon, 01 May 1995 11:48:43 -0500 Message-Id: <97dc-0105951148430001@student_97dc.williams.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi all, I was hoping switch to emacs as the default editor for pine on SunOS 4.3. Here is the line from my .pinerc editor=/usr/local/bin/emacs Obviously, it doesn't work or I wouldn't be posting here. When I compose it drops me right into pico. Any ideas? -DeWitt ____________________________________________________________________ | DeWitt Clinton \ http://wso.williams.edu/wso.html / H A V E | | Williams College \ _WilliamsSTUDENTSOnline_ / A G R A | | Williamstown, Ma \ Virtual Campus Information / T E F U | | 97dc@williams.edu \ Server / L D A Y | |____________________________________________________________________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 19:39:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20923; Tue, 2 May 95 19:39:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16633; Tue, 2 May 95 19:17:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16627; Tue, 2 May 95 19:17:57 -0700 Received: from [140.142.189.6] by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09249; Tue, 2 May 95 19:17:53 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 18:17:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Shannon Adams Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: From Address Wrong in Pine In-Reply-To: <3o6k9r$shk@treasure.coastalnet.com> Message-Id: X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Shannon, When you look at your sent-mail folder, what do the From: lines look like? If the sent-mail From: lines are correct, the problem is outside of Pine. If these are incorrect: Do you have Pine's user-domain variable set? -teg On 3 May 1995, Shannon Adams wrote: > Second request: Please help! > > >When I use mailx, my FROM: address is shannona@htc8500.com which is correct. > >However, when using Pine, my FROM: is htc8500!shannona - what gives? > >I assume this is a configuration issue. Please help. All of my > >mail is bouncing when someone replies to me. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 19:40:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20989; Tue, 2 May 95 19:40:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29711; Tue, 2 May 95 19:21:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29705; Tue, 2 May 95 19:21:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6TyS-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 19:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: IMAP daemon as Mail-user agent In-Reply-To: harris@email.unc.edu's message of 1 May 1995 15: 38:38 GMT Message-Id: References: <3o2v9u$176c@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 01:17:02 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <3o2v9u$176c@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) writes: (Oh, by the way, I'm not totally aversive to writing mailbox-locking routines, I've just never done it before. If anyone knows where I can go to read everything I ever wanted to know about mailbox locking, please do let me know.) Procmail includes a standalone utility, lockfile, that is emminently suitable for calling from a script. You'd need to build it on the same host where your IMAP client would reside. Regards, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 21:21:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23274; Tue, 2 May 95 21:21:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18051; Tue, 2 May 95 21:17:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18045; Tue, 2 May 95 21:17:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6VoA-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 21:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "H. Marc Kneppers" Subject: IMAP confusion (and addressbook too) Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 12:39:04 -0600 Message-Id: References: <97dc-0105951148430001@student_97dc.williams.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <97dc-0105951148430001@student_97dc.williams.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi, OK, I've got PC-Pine ... I've got Unix Pine ... I've got the imapd running ... I've got TCP/IP on the PC running. I can access my mail folders on the Unix machine with PC-Pine via imapd. This is GREAT, works well. (for windows, by the way). Problem is that I can't send mail. When I send it, the screen beeps at me and then puts the cursor back up into the To: line. (a few seconds delay here and there as well) What's wrong? Do I need something else, like an SMTP gateway (this is what the PC guy tells me is required for commercial packages - but it costs big bucks) ? I thought that Pine took care of this. Help, I am a little confused. On a second minor point - how do I get PC-Pine to see an addressbook on the Unix machine. (or a signature for that matter)? When I specify {machine.here.there}/path/.addressbook it just creates a file on my PC's hard drive called c:/{machine.her Thanks, Marc Kneppers knepperm@cuug.ab.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 21:41:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23637; Tue, 2 May 95 21:41:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01818; Tue, 2 May 95 21:37:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01812; Tue, 2 May 95 21:37:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6W6W-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 21:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gotthard Saghi-Szabo Subject: Re: Display of sending person's name in folders Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 14:46:31 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: I thank to all of you who responded to my request. It was very helpful. Take care, Gotthard -- personal email : gotthard@Glue.umd.edu Hungarian-American list : hungary@Glue.umd.edu WWW : http://www.glue.umd.edu/~gotthard From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 22:10:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24225; Tue, 2 May 95 22:10:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18565; Tue, 2 May 95 22:02:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from isisa.oit.unc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18559; Tue, 2 May 95 22:02:28 -0700 Received: by email.unc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA145513; Wed, 3 May 1995 01:02:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 01:02:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Trey Harris X-Sender: harris@isisa.oit.unc.edu To: Steve Hubert Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: forcing mail check In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 1 May 1995, Steve Hubert wrote: > Thanks, but you're just lucky. Not everyone's feature requests (not even > most of ours) will make it in. Hm. Has my request for a flag to drop you into the composer with a given file (possibly with headers, which Pine will use) been considered? For those of us who need/want to use newsreaders other than Pine, we would love to be able to chuck whatever mail composer the newsreader furnishes and use Pine instead. I've looked at the Compose code, and it looks like it would be fairly easy to implement. > 3.92 is turning out to be chock-full o' code changes so it is probably > going to be more Beta-ey than 3.91 when it is first released. (That word I > just made up is pronounced BAY TAH EEE and it means it probably won't work > quite right for everyone. :-) That's okay, just as long as you don't mean it won't work quite right for anyone. :) Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 23:32:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26459; Tue, 2 May 95 23:32:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03470; Tue, 2 May 95 23:26:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03464; Tue, 2 May 95 23:26:30 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28178; Tue, 2 May 95 23:26:24 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 23:26:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Marcos Rubinstein Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Margins in pico In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 2 May 1995, Marcos Rubinstein wrote: > Would be nice if the nice people from the pine team at washington > can find a way to configure pico for l/r margins :) > > Pucho Right margin in composer will be configurable in pine. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 23:35:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26587; Tue, 2 May 95 23:35:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19715; Tue, 2 May 95 23:31:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19709; Tue, 2 May 95 23:31:12 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28306; Tue, 2 May 95 23:31:09 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 23:31:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Trey Harris Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: forcing mail check In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 3 May 1995, Trey Harris wrote: > On Mon, 1 May 1995, Steve Hubert wrote: > > > Thanks, but you're just lucky. Not everyone's feature requests (not even > > most of ours) will make it in. > > Hm. Has my request for a flag to drop you into the composer with a given > file (possibly with headers, which Pine will use) been considered? For > those of us who need/want to use newsreaders other than Pine, we would > love to be able to chuck whatever mail composer the newsreader furnishes > and use Pine instead. I've looked at the Compose code, and it looks like > it would be fairly easy to implement. I remember seeing your message and we still have it but have not discussed it. It sounds like a reasonable feature but it doesn't sound totally trivial to implement, on first thought. It will be considered. Thanks. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 23:37:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26648; Tue, 2 May 95 23:37:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03422; Tue, 2 May 95 23:24:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03416; Tue, 2 May 95 23:24:09 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28128; Tue, 2 May 95 23:24:02 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 23:24:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Fuzzy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: test keyword for post In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: We have noted that it would sometimes be useful for some config variables to have a system-wide list that gets added to instead of replaced when a user changes their own version of the same variable. We haven't had time to think about how to do that yet but will definitely try to do something before 3.92, I think. Thanks. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Tue, 2 May 1995, Fuzzy wrote: > > added organization header > > *sigh* still thing we shouldnt have to edit all users files .pinerc's tho > > there has to be a simpler way to get the enviroment variable ORGANZATION > picked up as the organization: header value by default, like all the > other news posters do. > > fuz > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 23:42:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26867; Tue, 2 May 95 23:42:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19822; Tue, 2 May 95 23:37:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19816; Tue, 2 May 95 23:37:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6Xz4-00038SC; Tue, 2 May 95 23:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mherz@sunburn.uwaterloo.ca (Michael Herz) Subject: Remote folders won't open Message-Id: Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 20:52:15 GMT Status: O X-Status: I'm having a little trouble trying to configure PC Pine on my PC to read my mail folders on my UNIX account. They don't want to appear when requested to do so in the folder list. However, if I try to explicitly open the folder by using goto and typing the folder name it will open. Also, I get an error message IMAP error: Command Unrecognised: create if I try to add a folder. Any help would be appreciated. Also, is it possible to embed the UNIX login and password in the program call? ____________________________________________________ Michael Herz Civil Engineering University of Waterloo From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 00:54:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28623; Wed, 3 May 95 00:54:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04630; Wed, 3 May 95 00:41:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04624; Wed, 3 May 95 00:41:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6Yz7-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 00:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: I seem to have something amiss here . Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 17:18:46 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Do a "build clean" and then use "build vul" instead of "build ult". The vul port is for VAX Ultrix. As I remember, the only differences was in switches to the C compiler. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. On 2 May 1995, babydr wrote: > > Gents/Ladies, > I'm not sure what I did wrong the second time > but pine just won't compile now, also the reason I was > re-compiling pine was to get 'imapd' which didn't get made > the first time. So I thought I'd just start over. > Now, only pico compiles !? :-{ > > stats: DEC Vax, Ultrix v4.2 (yes I know it's old, but all I have) > DEC cc, ( I also have gcc2.5.7 But don't seem > to be able to use it here ? ) > > appended is the log file for a fresh dir-tree of pine3.91. > > > ThranxAI, Jim > > ---------------------------- build logfile ---------------------------------- > > make args are "CC=cc" > > Making c-client library, mtest and imapd > make build SYSTYPE=non-ANSI OS=ult > echo ult > OSTYPE > rm -rf systype > ln -s non-ANSI systype > cd non-ANSI/c-client; make ult > make mtest OS=ult EXTRADRIVERS="" STDPROTO=bezerkproto CFLAGS="-g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= " LDFLAGS="-lauth" > ./drivers imap nntp pop3 mh mtx tenex mmdf bezerk news phile dummy > rm -f OSTYPE CFLAGS LDFLAGS osdep.h > echo ult > OSTYPE > echo -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= > CFLAGS > echo -lauth > LDFLAGS > ln -s os_ult.h osdep.h > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c mail.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c bezerk.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c mtx.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c tenex2.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c mbox.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c mh.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c mmdf.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c imap2.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c pop3.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c news.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c nntpcunx.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c phile.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c dummy.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c smtp.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c nntp.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c rfc822.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c misc.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -DSTDPROTO=bezerkproto -DRSH=\"rsh\" -DRSHPATH=\"/usr/ucb/rsh\" -c os_ult.c > mv os_ult.o osdep.o > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c sm_unix.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c newsrc.c > rm -f c-client.a > ar rc c-client.a mail.o bezerk.o mtx.o tenex2.o mbox.o mh.o mmdf.o imap2.o pop3.o news.o nntpcunx.o phile.o dummy.o smtp.o nntp.o rfc822.o misc.o osdep.o sm_unix.o newsrc.o > ranlib c-client.a > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c mtest.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -o mtest mtest.o c-client.a -lauth > ld:800: cannot open > *** Error code 4 > *** Error code 1 > *** Error code 1 > *** Error code 1 > > Making Pico > rm -f osdep.c > cp os_unix.c osdep.c > rm -f osdep.h > cp os_unix.h osdep.h > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g attach.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g ansi.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g basic.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g bind.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g browse.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g buffer.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g composer.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g display.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g file.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g fileio.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g line.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g osdep.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g pico.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g random.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g region.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g search.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g spell.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g tcap.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g window.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g word.c > ar ru libpico.a attach.o ansi.o basic.o bind.o browse.o buffer.o composer.o display.o file.o fileio.o line.o osdep.o pico.o random.o region.o search.o spell.o tcap.o window.o word.o > ranlib libpico.a > cc -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g main.c libpico.a -ltermcap -lc -o pico > > Making Pine. > rm -f os.h > ln -s osdep/os-ult.h os.h > ./cmplhlp2.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.h > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c addrbook.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c adrbklib.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c args.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c context.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c filter.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c folder.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c help.c > ./cmplhelp.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c helptext.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c imap.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c init.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c mailcap.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c mailcmd.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c mailindx.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c mailpart.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c mailview.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c newmail.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c other.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c pine.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c print.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c reply.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c screen.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c send.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c signals.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c status.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c strings.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c ttyin.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c ttyout.c > cd osdep; make includer os-ult.c; cd .. > cc -o includer includer.c > ./includer < os-ult.ic > os-ult.c > rm -f os.c > ln -s osdep/os-ult.c os.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c os.c > echo "char datestamp[]="\"`date`\"";" > date.c > cc -c -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -o date.o date.c > cc: -o would overwrite date.o > *** Error code 8 > > Links to executables are in bin directory: > size: bin/pine not found > size: bin/mtest not found > size: bin/imapd not found > text data bss dec hex > 131072 27648 14268 172988 2a3bc bin/pico > > Done > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 01:35:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00218; Wed, 3 May 95 01:35:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21219; Wed, 3 May 95 01:30:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21210; Wed, 3 May 95 01:30:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6Zmc-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 01:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: IMAP confusion (and addressbook too) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 17:43:42 -0700 Message-Id: References: <97dc-0105951148430001@student_97dc.williams.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Did you try changing the smtp-server variable in PC-Pine to point to some other UNIX server? Unfortunately, this sort of thing is very difficult to debug remotely; also most versions of PC-Pine do not have any way to record debugging telemetry (it'd be interesting to see where in the SMTP transaction it chokes). -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. On Tue, 2 May 1995, H. Marc Kneppers wrote: > > > On Tue, 2 May 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > > > "SMTP connection went away" indicates that the connection to the SMTP > > server closed unexpectedly. I wonder if there might be some sort of > > "security" feature on the UNIX machine that prevents SMTP from the PC from > > working. Can you telnet to port 25 on the UNIX server from the PC? > > Yup. I can telnet to port 25 and also port 143 if that helps any. > There's an ethernet connection between the PC and Unix. I'm not sure if > the Unix machine even knows that the request is coming from a PC. > It's (supposedly) standard Svr4 UNIX, with a few Tandem add-ons. If it is > a security feature - I haven't heard of it through the local documentation. > > Would you expect anything different if I was running the sendmail daemon > instead of smtpd? (I somehow doubt it.) > > Marc > kneppers@acs.ucalgary.ca > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 01:53:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00586; Wed, 3 May 95 01:53:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05626; Wed, 3 May 95 01:45:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05620; Wed, 3 May 95 01:45:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6Zx0-00038gC; Wed, 3 May 95 01:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rosss@primenet.com (Scott Ross) Subject: What is core.pine and why is it so large? Date: 3 May 1995 04:11:42 GMT Message-Id: <3o6vpu$g91@news4.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: Hi, my provider charges extra for storage over 5MB, so I checked my disk space usage and core.pine was almost 3MB. What exactly is it and why would it be so large? Thanks in advance... Scott Ross rosss@primenet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 06:05:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07629; Wed, 3 May 95 06:05:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24062; Wed, 3 May 95 05:30:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24055; Wed, 3 May 95 05:30:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6dWB-00038RC; Wed, 3 May 95 05:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: BRENNAN@HAL.HAHNEMANN.EDU (A. Andrew Brennan) Subject: not-so-FAQ re: IMAP ?? Date: 29 Apr 1995 00:25:28 GMT Message-Id: <3ns11o$ecf@cmi.hahnemann.edu> Status: O X-Status: Ok ... I've checked in the Pine technical notes, the comp.mail.pine directory in RTFM's Usenet FAQ archive and some of the notes with the IMAPd code I picked up for Linux. Can't seem to find the answer to this - just hints. How's one setup anonymously accessible folders? I'm interested in dumping our old BULLETIN system and replacing it with folders that people can access using the Pine mailer (or other IMAP clients). Given what little I've seen so far, I'm not sure that this is the implementation I want to use ... but it might be. andrew. (brennan@hal.hahnemann.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 06:30:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08289; Wed, 3 May 95 06:30:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09229; Wed, 3 May 95 06:03:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ASARian.org by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09217; Wed, 3 May 95 06:03:16 -0700 Received: from ASARian.org (fuzzy@asarian.org [165.254.1.206]) by ASARian.org (8.6.10/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA00126; Wed, 3 May 1995 09:03:35 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 09:03:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Fuzzy To: Steve Hubert Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: test keyword for post In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: *fuzzies* and *e-hugs* Return-Reciept-To: Fuzzy@asarian.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 2 May 1995, Steve Hubert wrote: > Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 23:24:00 -0700 (PDT) > From: Steve Hubert > To: Fuzzy > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: test keyword for post > > We have noted that it would sometimes be useful for some config variables > to have a system-wide list that gets added to instead of replaced when a > user changes their own version of the same variable. We haven't had time > to think about how to do that yet but will definitely try to do something > before 3.92, I think. Thanks. > > Steve Hubert > Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle > something like pine.conf.added (like pine.conf.fixed). yes, thats exactly what we need for this one :). any projections on when 3.92 will be available? fuz > > On Tue, 2 May 1995, Fuzzy wrote: > > > > > added organization header > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 07:21:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09918; Wed, 3 May 95 07:21:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10377; Wed, 3 May 95 07:15:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10371; Wed, 3 May 95 07:15:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6f91-00038SC; Wed, 3 May 95 07:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fbennett@cais.com Subject: Looking for Pine Date: 2 May 1995 15:55:42 GMT Message-Id: <3o5klu$qr0@news.cais.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I have Pine 3.89 for Linux and was looking for the latest version. Also If anyone has information or software for a POP server could you please e-mail me. Thanks! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 07:28:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10249; Wed, 3 May 95 07:28:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25300; Wed, 3 May 95 07:15:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25294; Wed, 3 May 95 07:15:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6f95-00038TC; Wed, 3 May 95 07:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fbennett@cais.com Subject: Latest version of Pine. Date: 2 May 1995 16:00:07 GMT Message-Id: <3o5ku7$qr0@news.cais.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I am running Pine v3.89 and am having problems with my spell checker. I just says could not find file... Does anyone have a solution to this?? Also where can I get the latest for Linux and possibly for my pc. Next If anyone has info on software for a POP server that would be great! Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 08:00:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11792; Wed, 3 May 95 08:00:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11062; Wed, 3 May 95 07:51:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11056; Wed, 3 May 95 07:50:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6fkf-00038WC; Wed, 3 May 95 07:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Filtering and IMAP Date: 1 May 1995 22:05:43 GMT Message-Id: <3o3lvn$et0@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <199505011735.NAA11802@nefertiti.wang.com> Status: O X-Status: In article <199505011735.NAA11802@nefertiti.wang.com>, Forrest Aldrich wrote: >How does one initiate filtering and such (as provided with procmail) if they >use the IMAP protocol? Three ways that I know of: 1. Do not "seal" your IMAP server, i.e. run your IMAP server as an ordinary machine capable of serving user logins. Then IMAP won't even come into it because your mail transport agent will notice the .forward file in the user's home directory and deliver to the program (such as procmail). 2. Use Pine to do aggregate-command-set selection using the semicolon key followed by the (A)pply key. Many of the things the average procmail user wants to do can be implemented in this way. However, it must be done by hand every time you log in (or you could alias a pine command that had initial keystrokes, but that would be complicated). 3. If you must seal your IMAP server (and to me, at least, this is one of the primary reasons for using IMAP) and the Pine aggregate-command-set isn't powerful enough, then write a program which connects to the IMAP daemon, does the appropriate searches, and takes action on the messages returned. There may be other ways, too. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 09:47:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17077; Wed, 3 May 95 09:47:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13791; Wed, 3 May 95 09:32:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13785; Wed, 3 May 95 09:32:45 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15988; Wed, 3 May 95 09:30:52 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 09:30:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Fuzzy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: test keyword for post In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 3 May 1995, Fuzzy wrote: > something like pine.conf.added (like pine.conf.fixed). > > yes, thats exactly what we need for this one :). No promises that will do something that general. There are problems with that approach, too. > any projections on when 3.92 will be available? No. Not real soon now. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 10:45:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23548; Wed, 3 May 95 10:45:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29625; Wed, 3 May 95 10:36:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29619; Wed, 3 May 95 10:36:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6iJs-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 10:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Including Single Message from a Folder Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 12:37:46 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am new on this group, so please excuse me if this question has already been asked and answered. When using the Pine composer (under Unix, in my case), is there a way to include the text of a single message from a folder? (I already know about ^R to read in a whole file.) Pointers to documentation are fine. Thanks. Paul From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 12:11:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27023; Wed, 3 May 95 12:11:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01265; Wed, 3 May 95 11:48:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pogo.den.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01259; Wed, 3 May 95 11:48:25 -0700 Received: by pogo.den.mmc.com (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18846; Wed, 3 May 95 12:48:23 -0600 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 12:48:23 -0600 (MDT) From: Michael S Hartman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Problem sending mail to a profs user! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Can i send mail to profs?? The users node is ge1vm the i.d. is I106 I appreciate any help. Thanks, Mike Hartman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 12:22:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27325; Wed, 3 May 95 12:22:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22565; Wed, 3 May 95 12:16:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22559; Wed, 3 May 95 12:16:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6jqx-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 12:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Subject: Suggestion: Completion for Address Book Names/Fcc Folder Names Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 13:38:01 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I guess I don't really have to add much more after that Subject line, do I? ;) Anyway... My folder names are the same as the names in my address book, so, when saving a mail, I use something like "ni". And so, when entering a nickname in the To/Cc/Bcc field of a message header, I often try to do the same thing... But just end up with, for example, ni@aber.ac.uk. So anyway, I just think that adding tab completion for that (and maybe also for Fcc folder names) would be neat and very useful. Thanks to anyone who listens... :) ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(,_(,)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>, _>, WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 13:25:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04605; Wed, 3 May 95 13:25:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02998; Wed, 3 May 95 13:11:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02992; Wed, 3 May 95 13:11:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6kiC-00038RC; Wed, 3 May 95 13:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ramon J. Hontanon" Subject: Defining the NNTP "Path" line Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 11:16:25 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hiya! I'm wondering it PINE allows you to fiddle with the Path line at the top of a USENET article: Path: template.com!news1.digex.net!news2.digex.net!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprint link.net!news.cais.com!NewsWatcher!user Our xrn users can customize this line for outgoing postings, but a lot of people are switching to PINE to post to USENET, and we'd like to have them do the same thing. Thanks a lot! -- ramon _____________________________________________________________ Ramon J. Hontanon ramon.hontanon@template.com Template Software Herndon, VA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 14:14:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11065; Wed, 3 May 95 14:14:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05490; Wed, 3 May 95 13:56:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05484; Wed, 3 May 95 13:56:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6lQL-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 13:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "H. Marc Kneppers" Subject: Re: IMAP confusion (and addressbook too) Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 09:14:52 -0600 Message-Id: References: <97dc-0105951148430001@student_97dc.williams.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 2 May 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > Did you try changing the smtp-server variable in PC-Pine to point to some > other UNIX server? Unfortunately, this sort of thing is very difficult > to debug remotely; also most versions of PC-Pine do not have any way to > record debugging telemetry (it'd be interesting to see where in the SMTP > transaction it chokes). No luck, we're not on the net and only have one UNIX server. We've been playing around with the tcp/ip stack etc. on the pc's but nothing has worked yet. Marc kneppers@acs.ucalgary.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 14:36:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12200; Wed, 3 May 95 14:36:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04593; Wed, 3 May 95 14:26:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04587; Wed, 3 May 95 14:26:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6lvr-00038RC; Wed, 3 May 95 14:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rene Grothmann Subject: Pine 7 bit ASCII, help! Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 17:32:01 +0200 (DFT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: How can I prevent PINE from converting my ASCII-Code above 127 to strange items =95 a.s.o. That on relly hurts. It effectively prevents me from sending german messages. Rene From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 15:48:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15939; Wed, 3 May 95 15:48:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08278; Wed, 3 May 95 15:42:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08271; Wed, 3 May 95 15:41:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6n4R-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 15:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: negaard@draagen.graceland.edu (Oberon) Subject: Re: Pine under linux and DOS - lockfiles? Date: 03 May 1995 21:10:11 GMT Message-Id: References: <3o4k1e$do2@ns2.via.at> <3o727i$pbr@sundog.tiac.net> In-Reply-To: phl@cyways.com's message of 3 May 1995 04:53:06 GMT Status: O X-Status: >>>>> "Peter" == Peter H Lemieux writes: Peter> In article <3o4k1e$do2@ns2.via.at>, ChFi@via.at says... >> I would like to use pine under linux and under DOS, using the same >> local message folders under both OS. Peter> You could add an NFS client like XFS to your DOS stack and put Peter> the folders on the Linux partition. Another choice would be to run an 'imapd' on your mail-provider (provided you have that kind of power). Then you can set things up so that both pine versions get their mail and keep their local message folders on the remote machine. If I've jumped in in the middle, and don't understand what you're really asking, please accept my apologies. -- o David Negaard o negaard@graceland.edu o Help Desk Technician o http://www.graceland.edu/~negaard o 700 College Avenue o linux-phile o Lamoni, IA 50140 o 73 de KB0PXK From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 15:48:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15970; Wed, 3 May 95 15:48:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06399; Wed, 3 May 95 15:42:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06393; Wed, 3 May 95 15:42:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6n4t-00038RC; Wed, 3 May 95 15:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmarshall@flash.rdc.ab.ca (John Marshall, Red Deer College, (4) Subject: PC pine can't send mail (all else ok) Message-Id: <1995May3.135249@ns.rdc.ab.ca> Date: 3 May 95 13:52:49 MDT Status: O X-Status: I have just installed Pine on a PC. It is using an IMAP server on a VAX running PMDF. I can access my folders okay but when I try to send a message first it: Balked the default-Fcc: couldnt open it, create?. If you said yes it beeped twice and returned to the To: field. When I changed the configuration to "" for default-Fcc it just beeped twice and returned to the To: prompt without telling me anything. Is there a log somewhere to see the error message (if any)?. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 16:25:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17816; Wed, 3 May 95 16:25:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09203; Wed, 3 May 95 16:17:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09197; Wed, 3 May 95 16:17:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6nd5-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 16:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Internet Incite Subject: wondering why??? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 16:54:09 GMT Status: O X-Status: I was told that at my college I was not aloud to upgrade my version of pine 3.87 to the new version that is in my update section 3.91. I was wondering if anyone would be able to help me understand this. I thought that if my account was ever upgraded it would have to be upgraded from within my account and that would have to be from within my account protected password section of the unix system. I am on a DEC-ALPHA system that runs on a 56K leased line. The only way I am able to post to this newsgroup is from within my updated version of pine I am using in a different connection that I pay for seperate from school account. I really enjoy the 3.91 section over the 3.87 version. Still searching for the ISH parking lot attendant of which there seems to be none. Misfits {ISH: Information Super Highway} From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 17:29:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21242; Wed, 3 May 95 17:29:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08842; Wed, 3 May 95 17:17:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08836; Wed, 3 May 95 17:17:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6oai-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 17:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marcus Eric Harris Subject: Running IMAP/RIMAP With PC-Pine 3.91... Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 21:17:35 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hello, I'm looking for information on configuring PC-Pine 3.91 to work with the IMAP/RIMAP daemons on a file server. My PC is running the following: . DOS 6.22 . Windows For Workgroups (3.11) -- Workgroups deactivated . PC-NFS 5.1a . PC-Pine 3.91 for Windows When I run the application in Windows, it attempts to access the remote inbox ({serverName}inbox) the way that it should. The problem appears to be occurring when the authentication process begins. I continually get problems trying to bind to the IMAP daemon and I believe the problem MAY be the fact that a password must be validated by the IMAP daemon to gain access to the remote inbox. We have been able to successfully access remote inboxes via IMAP in heterogeneous SPARC environments, but PCs have a serious problem with the authentication. Any help anyone may have to offer (pointers to HTTP sites, FAQs, etc) will be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much for your time. Marco _\\\|///_ ( O-O ) +-----------------------------o00--(_)--00o----------------------------+ | | | Marcus Eric Harris Email: harrism@usasoc.soc.mil | | Senior Site Analyst meh@fayetteville.ssds.com | | SSDS, Inc. | | Bldg. D-2524 Merrill Street Phone: 910.432.4311 | | Fort Bragg, North Carolina 28307 FAX: 910.436.8124 | | | | "When I die, I want to go in my sleep -- just like my Grandfather. | | Not screaming in horror like the other passengers in his car..." | | | +-----------------------------o00--(_)--00o----------------------------+ _( O-O )_ ///|\\\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 17:37:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21622; Wed, 3 May 95 17:37:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11152; Wed, 3 May 95 17:28:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jeffnet.efn.org by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11146; Wed, 3 May 95 17:28:18 -0700 Received: from jeffnet.efn.org (kevinw@jeffnet.efn.org [204.214.98.28]) by jeffnet.efn.org (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA30834 for ; Wed, 3 May 1995 17:23:23 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 17:23:23 -0700 From: Kevin Workman Subject: Unsubscribe To: Pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 18:33:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23283; Wed, 3 May 95 18:33:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12217; Wed, 3 May 95 18:27:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12211; Wed, 3 May 95 18:27:26 -0700 Received: from [140.142.189.6] by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12120; Wed, 3 May 95 18:27:16 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 17:27:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Marcus Eric Harris Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Running IMAP/RIMAP With PC-Pine 3.91... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Marco, You haven't given very many details about what exactly you see. What are the precise symptoms? If you attempt to telnet to port 143 of the server and manually enter a login command aa login username password what happens? -teg On Wed, 3 May 1995, Marcus Eric Harris wrote: > Hello, > > I'm looking for information on configuring PC-Pine 3.91 to work > with the IMAP/RIMAP daemons on a file server. My PC is running the > following: > > . DOS 6.22 > . Windows For Workgroups (3.11) -- Workgroups deactivated > . PC-NFS 5.1a > . PC-Pine 3.91 for Windows > > When I run the application in Windows, it attempts to access the > remote inbox ({serverName}inbox) the way that it should. The problem > appears to be occurring when the authentication process begins. I > continually get problems trying to bind to the IMAP daemon and I believe > the problem MAY be the fact that a password must be validated by the IMAP > daemon to gain access to the remote inbox. We have been able to > successfully access remote inboxes via IMAP in heterogeneous SPARC > environments, but PCs have a serious problem with the authentication. > > Any help anyone may have to offer (pointers to HTTP sites, FAQs, > etc) will be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much for your time. > > Marco > > _\\\|///_ > ( O-O ) > +-----------------------------o00--(_)--00o----------------------------+ > | | > | Marcus Eric Harris Email: harrism@usasoc.soc.mil | > | Senior Site Analyst meh@fayetteville.ssds.com | > | SSDS, Inc. | > | Bldg. D-2524 Merrill Street Phone: 910.432.4311 | > | Fort Bragg, North Carolina 28307 FAX: 910.436.8124 | > | | > | "When I die, I want to go in my sleep -- just like my Grandfather. | > | Not screaming in horror like the other passengers in his car..." | > | | > +-----------------------------o00--(_)--00o----------------------------+ > _( O-O )_ > ///|\\\ > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 18:56:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23802; Wed, 3 May 95 18:56:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10149; Wed, 3 May 95 18:47:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10143; Wed, 3 May 95 18:47:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6pzm-00038RC; Wed, 3 May 95 18:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sfg@nexus.interealm.com (Doug Johnson) Subject: Re: Printing Problem Date: 4 May 1995 00:32:02 GMT Message-Id: <3o97a2$k8d@nexus.interealm.com> References: Status: O X-Status: Christopher Steven Williams (cwilliam@gladstone.uoregon.edu) wrote: : At the University of Oregon, the only way anyone knows who to print from : pine is by useing the printer at the computing center, or by saving it : onto our account and pulling it off as a text file through another : program. Is there any way to set up which printer pine will print to? : All our printer (most) our connected to each other in one way or another. : ---------------------------------------------------- : Christopher Williams : cwilliam@gladstone.uoregon.edu : http://gladstone.uoregon.edu:80/~cwilliam/index.html : ---------------------------------------------------- Do you have a printer defined in your .login or .profile? I would start by seening what the system defined printers are and then if they are accessable from pine. Doug From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 20:05:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25397; Wed, 3 May 95 20:05:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13680; Wed, 3 May 95 19:57:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13669; Wed, 3 May 95 19:57:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6r5i-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 19:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com (Jason Haar) Subject: Re: Filtering and IMAP Date: 3 May 1995 16:54:10 GMT Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: In article dlm@cac.washington.edu wrote: > Filtering on a black-box IMAP server (no shell access) is currently an > unsolved problem. We have implemented a partial solution in our tmail > delivery agent by supporting "user+folder" addressing, e.g. if you send a > message to dlm+pine@cac.washington.edu it will be delivered straight to my > "pine" incoming folder.... To me IMAP seems so close to allowing this... IMAP allows you to open non-mail folders, so couldn't there be some way of getting IMAP to edit files like .forward and .procmailrc? Actually, this reminds me of an earlier post I made asking if IMAP could be used to store a central .pinerc file on the IMAP server instead of the client - same principle - just opened up a bit further... Local filters like procmail would be more efficient than getting the mailer to go through filter hoops... That would be most excellent - but it would be moving away from the simple model... -- Cheers, Jason +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ | Jason Haar, European SysAdmin Phone: + 44 (256) 790577 | | Motorola Cellular Subscriber Fax: + 44 (256) 790519 | | Basingstoke, Hampshire | | RG21 1PL, ENGLAND Internet: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com | +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 20:19:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25774; Wed, 3 May 95 20:19:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11290; Wed, 3 May 95 20:12:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11284; Wed, 3 May 95 20:12:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6rK9-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 20:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mimil@bf.rmit.edu.au (Mimi Ling) Subject: Cannot read news Date: 3 May 1995 23:45:37 GMT Message-Id: <3o94j1$7ll@aggedor.rmit.EDU.AU> Status: O X-Status: Hello there.. I just started using pine and I have a couple of problems.. 1. I cannot subscribe to any newsgroup .. use A to subscr. screen hit CRTL X to get list and S to subscribe .. When I exit and log in again, I am back to the list with whole list of newsgroup from (Alt.. Vms). How to I get to only the newsgroup that I have subscribe for ?? 2. I want to read a couple of news in every newsgroup, BUT once I get into one news, I cannot seems to go back to the original list, I have to use next message which I have to go thru the whole list until the end unless I want to go back to the Main screen..What is the comand to use?? Any help would be appreciated.. Thanks Mimi From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 21:17:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27157; Wed, 3 May 95 21:17:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14782; Wed, 3 May 95 21:12:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14776; Wed, 3 May 95 21:12:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6sDZ-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 21:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: davidky@conan (David Kennedy) Subject: Filtering Mail? Date: 3 May 1995 17:37:51 GMT Message-Id: <3o8f1f$cr4@paperboy.ids.net> Status: O X-Status: Hello. I'm trying to filter all the mail I receive so that the messages I get from a listserv are separated for my personal mail.. I guess I want the mail to be put into two folders (?), one fir the listserv and one for everything else. BUT I have no idea how to do this. I'm on a UNIX machine (or should I say I dial into a unix machine?) So :) how do I do this? In some PINE manual it says I have to do this in unix but I don't know how to do that either. any help would be greatly appreciated. David please e-mail me at: DAVIDKY@IDS.NET Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 21:37:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27720; Wed, 3 May 95 21:37:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12219; Wed, 3 May 95 21:32:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12213; Wed, 3 May 95 21:32:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6sWG-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 21:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: derelict@netcom.com (derelict@netcom.com) Subject: pine: general-use FAQ or DOCS?? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 04:02:32 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi!! I'm just starting to use Pine, after using Emacs for years... I'd like to find docs for it that would tell me how to do simple things like "delete to end of line", etc... Where is such a document located??? -- Like a game of tag, DEATH is "it", and around he chases, touching people who fall to Earth. Rita Mae Brown From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 21:41:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27859; Wed, 3 May 95 21:41:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12295; Wed, 3 May 95 21:37:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from isisa.oit.unc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12289; Wed, 3 May 95 21:37:10 -0700 Received: by email.unc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA105160; Thu, 4 May 1995 00:37:05 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 00:37:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Trey Harris X-Sender: harris@isisa.oit.unc.edu To: Ian Russell Ollmann Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: forcing mail check In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 3 May 1995, Ian Russell Ollmann wrote: > Some news programs allow you to set an environemnt variable to tell it > which editor to use for news posting / mail sending. Try issuing the > following command and then start up your news reader and see what happens: > > setenv EDITOR pico > > It won't quite be pine, but it will at least edit your message like pine > does. Um, yes. I've been running Unix machines for enough years to know about the EDITOR variable, at least. :) And if you have a sane newsreader, it will let you use an alternate editor from the one in the EDITOR environment variable. But will that save the outgoing mail in my sent-mail folder? Even if there's a way to do it, will it use IMAP, as I do with Pine? Can I use my Pine address-book nicknames in the Cc: line? Can I postpone the message for later? Can I attatch a MIME-encoded file, if I'm responding to someone who needs some source code or a binary file that I have? You see what I'm getting at. It isn't Pico I want, it's *Pine*. Right now, I have my newsreader (trn) set up as an alias, like follows: alias trn='/usr/local/bin/trn ; pine -f respond-to' and when I'm using trn, I save any messages I want to respond to in the respond-to folder, and when I quit trn, Pine starts up. This works, but it's kludgy and it has a number of looming problems, most notably of which is what if the respond-to file needs to be an IMAP folder rather than a local file? Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 23:49:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00683; Wed, 3 May 95 23:49:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16883; Wed, 3 May 95 23:43:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16877; Wed, 3 May 95 23:42:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6uaK-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 23:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Printing thru PC Date: 26 Apr 1995 04:49:06 GMT Message-Id: <3nkjc2$5gp@grape.epix.net> References: <3nj5cb$d2j@indy-backup.indy.net> Status: O X-Status: Brendan E. O'Connor (boc@indy.net) wrote: : About two months ago, I suddenly lost the ability to print from Pine to : my local printer using the "Y" command. When I press "Y" for Print and : answer yes to the "Print to "attached-to-ansi"? question, the message : prints to the screen instead of to my printer. This problem occurred at It should do both ... the pine Y prYnt command is not really a printer driver, but it's a screen capture thingy when used on a pc (I'm assuming you're on a pc running dos or windozzzz, connected to a server running unix). That's why it 'scrolls' the message up as it (or before it) prints. : the same time both at home: '386 to Epson FX-85 and at work: '486 to HP : LJ III. It also is consistent across at least two terminal : emulators--both windows-based. Did you or your server upgrade to a higher version of pine recently, if so maybe the settings were lost ... see below ... : Is this likely to be a problem with my Pine Setup? If so, what should I : check? Or is it possibly a problem with the Pine program or setup used Check your setup (from main pine screen S to setup then P??? to select printer then option # 1 to set to attached-to-ansi, but it sounds like ya already did that so it should work. : by my local access provider? I thought I'd post here first and try my : local sysop next if no one has any better ideas on what I might be doing : wrong. I've been making do by saving messages to my hard drive and : printing them throught MS-Word, but this is the slow way. That's the best way to do it with long messages, 'cause you can do it off-line, and get a better quality printout, and you can edit it, but it's a pain in the ass for short messages I agree. One possible solution ... if ya got a fast modem and a slow terminal (as in 386) (saw one last week at an antique show :-)) slow it (the modem) down when yer prYnting, because it will 'scroll' too fast. I connect at 28800 or 14400 depending, and set the modem (temporarily) to 1200 (yes that's 12 hundred not thousand) and it works fine. Anything faster and it skips stuff (remember it's a screen capture, not really a printer driver). Don't know what software yer usin, but I can change modem speeds while connected, if yours can't, you'll have to logout then reset then .login again (also a pain in the ass). This is only my homemade method of doing it, never saw it published anywhere, but what the hell, it works. : Thanks for any ideas/help you can provide. Let me know if this helps or not, if not my 14 year old computer nerd son can probably figure it out, but he's sleeping now. BYE. DearOldDad /~~~/~~~/~~~/\ /\/\ /\ / / / / \/\/ POCONO MTNS PA DearOldDad:The older I get, the smarter I used to be./ \/\jgvd@epix.net Jonathan:Kids are people too; Have guitar, will travel.\ \/\ \ /\ \ Thought for the day: / / / / / / \/ \ \/ \/\ Just trying to find the meaning of life; Get me a dictionary._\__/__\ OK, I found it ! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 23:51:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00748; Wed, 3 May 95 23:51:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13721; Wed, 3 May 95 23:43:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13709; Wed, 3 May 95 23:43:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6ubv-00038RC; Wed, 3 May 95 23:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Another .sig question!!! Date: 26 Apr 1995 05:19:17 GMT Message-Id: <3nkl4l$5gp@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Christopher Steven Williams (cwilliam@gladstone.uoregon.edu) wrote: : Is it possible to assign different .sig`s to specific newsgroups? The : one on this letter is the same for every letter and I wanted a .sig that : approprietly matched the newsgroup (like a good quote from startrek for : alt.ensign.wesley.die.die.die). Yessirreee; and from the Blakeslee campus of Pocono University, our Adjunct Professor of Internet, DearOldDad, is gonna tell ya'll how. Make files named for example cg for christopher's general purpose sig, cs for Christophers sex group sig, cc for your computer group sig, cq for ... oh well use your immagination ... anyway, where were we ... oh yes ... then when yer done typing your message in mail (pine) or usenet (tin) for examples, type ^R (control+r) to read in a file, then type cg and press Enter, Bingo!, your cg sig is attached to your mail, post, followup, write, whatever. Notice I said that your cg file is attached, not your .signature file. The problem with .signature files, is that they attach to everything, if you want it or not, and even worse if you mail a copy to someone else, another copy of .signature will attach, and even more worser, .signature files put in a leading -- which some newsreaders and servers will truncate if longer than 4 lines. Only my 895 cents worth. BYE. now ... here comes ^R ds Enter (that stands for Dad's signature) DearOldDad /~~~/~~~/~~~/\ /\/\ /\ / / / / \/\/ POCONO MTNS PA DearOldDad:The older I get, the smarter I used to be./ \/\jgvd@epix.net Jonathan:Kids are people too; Have guitar, will travel.\ \/\ \ /\ \ Thought for the day: / / / / / / \/ \ \/ \/\ None:My mind is temporarily out of order. /___/___/___/___/____\/____\_\ now ... here comes ^R dg Enter (Dad's golf group signature) . . /\ . /\ . DearOldDad / \ /\. / \ /\ . Thought for the day : from the / \/ \ /\/ \/ \ . FORE !! Pocono Mtns / / \/ \ /\ \ \ /\ . Damn, missed again! PA USA / / / \/ \ \/\ \ / \ . e-mail to / / / / \/ \/\/ \ . . . |>> jgvd@ / / / / / / \/\ \/\ . . . .. | epix.net/_____/_____/_____/_____/___/___/__\/\/__\____._______.__.|____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 23:52:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00780; Wed, 3 May 95 23:52:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16940; Wed, 3 May 95 23:48:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16934; Wed, 3 May 95 23:48:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6ug2-00038RC; Wed, 3 May 95 23:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: erin@skivs.ski.org (Erin O'Neill) Subject: Incoming folders... Date: 3 May 1995 15:47:21 -0700 Message-Id: <3o915p$3iv@skivs.ski.org> Status: O X-Status: ok Ok I've been filtering my Email for awhile & then I saw how Pine will allow me to name an incomming folder & if I set up my configuration correctly I can just hit the tab key (while in my main inbox??) & then I should just go over to my filtered folder & be able to read my mail.... Somehow I can't figure out the format for the folder-collections I have a filter set up so that all my mailing list email goes to a named folder. When I've finished reading my regular inbox email I'd like to be able to hit the tab key & go to my mailing list folder. How do I do this?? I've inabled auto-open-next-unread & enable-incoming-folders but I'm unsure of the format for folder-collections?? What am I leaving out?? Help! thanks. erin erin@skivs.ski.org -- erin erin@skivs.ski.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 04:36:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08617; Thu, 4 May 95 04:36:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17090; Thu, 4 May 95 04:13:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17084; Thu, 4 May 95 04:13:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6yoP-00038QC; Thu, 4 May 95 04:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phl@cyways.com (Peter H. Lemieux) Subject: Re: Pine under linux and DOS - lockfiles? Date: 3 May 1995 04:53:06 GMT Message-Id: <3o727i$pbr@sundog.tiac.net> References: <3o4k1e$do2@ns2.via.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O X-Status: In article <3o4k1e$do2@ns2.via.at>, ChFi@via.at says... > >I would like to use pine under linux and under DOS, using the same local >message folders under both OS. You could add an NFS client like XFS to your DOS stack and put the folders on the Linux partition. Peter -- Peter H. Lemieux, President http://www.cyways.com cyways, inc. Voice: +1 (800) 529-9297 Watertown, Massachusetts, USA Fax: +1 (617) 926-8440 --- Your source for total Internet solutions(TM) --- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 05:32:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10108; Thu, 4 May 95 05:32:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21681; Thu, 4 May 95 05:19:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from adan.unizar.es by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21669; Thu, 4 May 95 05:19:33 -0700 Received: from [155.210.12.116] by adan.unizar.es (4.1/SMI-4.1) Thu, 4 May 95 14:24:22 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 14:24:59 +0000 To: Pine-info From: cmata@adan.unizar.es (Carlos Mata) Subject: Unsubscribe Status: O X-Status: unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 05:38:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10269; Thu, 4 May 95 05:38:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21641; Thu, 4 May 95 05:18:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21635; Thu, 4 May 95 05:18:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6zog-00038QC; Thu, 4 May 95 05:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fwreimer@crl.com (Frederick W. Reimer) Subject: access error? Date: 4 May 1995 04:05:42 -0700 Message-Id: <3oace6$c94@crl2.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: I just got an error message this morning. Can someone tell me what it means and how serious it is? I was in my sentmail folder, and a bar appeared at the bottom of the screen saying "Mailbox format invalidated (consult an expert), aborted" Then, a message said, (Mail folder Inbox closed due to access error) Does this mean someone has accessed my mail files? Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 06:27:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11156; Thu, 4 May 95 06:27:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18156; Thu, 4 May 95 06:08:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18150; Thu, 4 May 95 06:08:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s70aq-00038QC; Thu, 4 May 95 06:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: pine: general-use FAQ or DOCS?? Date: 4 May 1995 12:25:18 GMT Message-Id: <3oah3e$d2t@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: derelict@netcom.com (derelict@netcom.com) wrote: : Hi!! I'm just starting to use Pine, after using Emacs for years... : I'd like to find docs for it that would tell me how to do simple : things like "delete to end of line", etc... Where is such a : document located??? >From the main (startup) screen type '?' (no quotes). You will see a 25 page document with basic instructions, and on the 4th or 5th page http:// addresses for retrieving the full documentation. Have fun! BYE. /\ /~~\/\ /\ John (aka DearOldDad) /\ / \/ / \ /\/\ \ /\ /\ / \/ / / \/POCONO MTNS PA DearOldDad:The older I get, the smarter I used to be./\ \/ jgvd@epix.net Jonathan:Kids are people too; Have guitar, will travel.\ /\ \ \/\ \ Thought for the day: / / / / / / / \/ \ \/ \/\ None:My mind is temporarily out of order. /___/___/___/___/____\/____\_\ m From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 06:28:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11174; Thu, 4 May 95 06:28:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22402; Thu, 4 May 95 06:13:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22396; Thu, 4 May 95 06:13:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s70f6-00038QC; Thu, 4 May 95 06:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cguy@uspto.gov (Cynthia Guy) Subject: compressing a pine folder/file Date: 3 May 1995 09:39:26 -0400 Message-Id: <3o812e$8vr@pioneer.uspto.gov> Status: O X-Status: We are using Pine 3.91. We have users that want to keep their monthly folders. Is there anyway in Pine to save the monthly folder as a file, and compress it. I have tried looking at the export and piping features but cannot find anything that will work. Thanks for any help. Cynthia -- "Time is a precious gift. Live each minute to its fullest because you will never get it back." Cynthia Guy, Network Analyst PTO: (703) 308-6873 standard disclaimers apply From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 07:48:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13012; Thu, 4 May 95 07:48:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18948; Thu, 4 May 95 07:19:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18942; Thu, 4 May 95 07:19:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s71hf-00038TC; Thu, 4 May 95 07:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: STORM Subject: Automated Reply...How to setup? Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 23:51:36 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have been trying to create an automated reply using: Pine -I i,r,^X This sending a reply to a new message (my signature is the auto reply message) received. However, Pine is not recognizing the ^X command. Is there someway to fix this? Or is there an easier way to create an automated reply/mailbot? Thanks for your help. Storm From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 08:07:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13772; Thu, 4 May 95 08:07:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23481; Thu, 4 May 95 07:30:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.bridgeway.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23475; Thu, 4 May 95 07:30:26 -0700 Received: by server.bridgeway.com id <207655>; Thu, 4 May 1995 07:32:41 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 07:32:37 -0700 From: Andrew Le To: Jonathan and DearOldDad Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine: general-use FAQ or DOCS?? In-Reply-To: <3oah3e$d2t@grape.epix.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello to all... I would like to know how to set up an alias so that I can receive mail using a different name... For example, say I have an account with username "joe" but everyone else knows me as "joe1." How would I set up an alias using pine so that everyone who sends mail to "joe1" will have their mail delivered to "joe"? Andrew Le From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 08:11:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13913; Thu, 4 May 95 08:11:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23458; Thu, 4 May 95 07:29:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23438; Thu, 4 May 95 07:29:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s71sE-00038QC; Thu, 4 May 95 07:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Re: Problem sending mail to a profs user! Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 10:23:07 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 3 May 1995, Michael S Hartman wrote: > Date: 3 MAY 1995 12:10:12 -0700 > From: Michael S Hartman > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Problem sending mail to a profs user! > > Can i send mail to profs?? > > The users node is ge1vm > > the i.d. is I106 > > I appreciate any help. > > Thanks, Mike Hartman The answer is yes. I used to be a system programmer on IBM mainframe systems running PROFS, and we did it all the time. Provided everybody is connected to the net and has all the addressing squared away, nothing special needs to be done. Just treat a PROFS recipient like any other email address. You say the user's node is ge1vm. That looks to me to be an insufficient address. You probably need I106@ge1vm.. You will need to find out the user's domain to make it work. Then it should go with no further problems (if, as I say, everybody is hooked up). Just remembered. Your system will need to know about the user's domain in your Domain Name System (DNS) tables, and his/her system will need to know about yours. That's a system administrator function. Paul From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 11:19:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21969; Thu, 4 May 95 11:19:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23446; Thu, 4 May 95 11:09:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23440; Thu, 4 May 95 11:09:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s75KL-00038RC; Thu, 4 May 95 11:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Gardiner Myers Subject: Re: Filtering and IMAP Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 10:44:35 -0400 Message-Id: References: <199505011735.NAA11802@nefertiti.wang.com> In-Reply-To: <3o3lvn$et0@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) writes: > There may be other ways, too. 4. Teach your delivery service to do filtering based on information the user loaded into some directory service (such as LDAP). -- _.John G. Myers Internet: jgm+@CMU.EDU LoseNet: ...!seismo!ihnp4!wiscvm.wisc.edu!give!up From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 14:02:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29063; Thu, 4 May 95 14:02:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02552; Thu, 4 May 95 13:55:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02546; Thu, 4 May 95 13:55:47 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15945; Thu, 4 May 95 13:55:43 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 13:55:39 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Scott Ross Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: What is core.pine and why is it so large? In-Reply-To: <3o6vpu$g91@news4.primenet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: You must have had a Pine crash at some point. The core file is an image of memory when the program crashed. We would like to know the circumstances of the crash, but the core file can be deleted... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 3 May 1995, Scott Ross wrote: > Date: 3 May 1995 04:11:42 GMT > From: Scott Ross > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: What is core.pine and why is it so large? > > Hi, my provider charges extra for storage over 5MB, so I checked my disk > space usage and core.pine was almost 3MB. What exactly is it and why > would it be so large? Thanks in advance... > > Scott Ross > rosss@primenet.com > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 14:03:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29100; Thu, 4 May 95 14:03:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27108; Thu, 4 May 95 13:52:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27102; Thu, 4 May 95 13:52:47 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26698; Thu, 4 May 95 13:52:01 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 13:52:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Forrest Aldrich Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Filtering and IMAP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 1 May 1995, Forrest Aldrich wrote: > How does one initiate filtering and such (as provided with procmail) if they > use the IMAP protocol? There have been several suggestions made so far. I'm going to recap some of them and add several possibities that haven't been mentioned. I will not mention suggestions that involve firing up a Mail User Agent to act on the mail store, as I think most people want filtering to be done by the delivery agent at "message delivery time", rather than by an MUA at "message reading time"... 1. Run IMAP on an "unsealed" system where logins are permitted and procmail or filter or deliver can be used in the normal way. 2. Run IMAP on a "semi-sealed" system which shares some state with systems where logins are permitted. One scenario: the IMAP server does not permit user logins, but imports user home directories and the delivery agent respects any .forward entries it finds. 3. Teach your delivery service to do filtering based on information the user loaded into some directory service (such as LDAP). 4. Mailbots. It is possible to construct a service for manipulating a procmail (etc.) rule base via email messages. The advantage is being able to use any mail client to, for example, set a vacation msg. A key requirement is for the requestor to be authenticated, which could be done in any of several ways, e.g. PGP, or some form of "two-party authentication" wherein a "magic cookie" is sent to the user's mailbox by the mailbot engine and is used in subsequent transactions for authentication. In its simplest form, this scheme would have a very limited set of services (e.g. vacation setup) and a correspondingly simple command syntax (and/or a task-specific set of mailbot addresses.) One can imagine a more general-purpose rule definition language being transmitted to the delivery filter via this kind of mechanism. (Laurence Lundblade at Virginia Tech has been working on such a language, which he has dubbed "Sift-TCL".) 5. WWW forms. WWW forms are being used for *everything* these days, even session-oriented transaction sequences that require authentication. I can't see any reason why someone couldn't solve the remote procmail configuration problem using this approach. On 3 May 1995, Jason Haar asked why you couldn't edit procmail config files via IMAP, and why it couldn't be used to store Pine config files. The answer for both questions is that a case can be made for having several simple protocols for different tasks, rather than one "does everything" protocol. In the case of remote access to pine configuration data, we expect to use the IMAP companion protocol, IMSP, which is being developed at CMU. In the case of procmail configuration data, any of the options listed above seem plausible. In principle, since IMAP supports an APPEND operation, one could write arbitrary data to a file on the server and invent an agent that could do something useful with it, but even though I also like to reuse existing mechanism rather than inventing new, I'm not convinced that's the best approach to this particular problem. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 14:10:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29450; Thu, 4 May 95 14:10:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02677; Thu, 4 May 95 14:00:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02671; Thu, 4 May 95 14:00:42 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16101; Thu, 4 May 95 14:00:38 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 14:00:36 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Cynthia Guy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: compressing a pine folder/file In-Reply-To: <3o812e$8vr@pioneer.uspto.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Cynthia, Pine does not currently support compressed folders. There have been several requests, but we don't have the resources to implement them at this time. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 3 May 1995, Cynthia Guy wrote: > Date: 3 May 1995 09:39:26 -0400 > From: Cynthia Guy > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: compressing a pine folder/file > > We are using Pine 3.91. We have users that want to keep their monthly > folders. Is there anyway in Pine to save the monthly folder as a file, > and compress it. I have tried looking at the export and piping features but > cannot find anything that will work. > > Thanks for any help. > Cynthia > > -- > "Time is a precious gift. > Live each minute to its fullest because you will never get it back." > > Cynthia Guy, Network Analyst PTO: (703) 308-6873 standard disclaimers apply > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 14:20:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29911; Thu, 4 May 95 14:20:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02852; Thu, 4 May 95 14:07:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02846; Thu, 4 May 95 14:07:44 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16269; Thu, 4 May 95 14:07:41 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 14:07:39 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jason Haar Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Filtering and IMAP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: One of the reasons that the file driver in the UW IMAP server is Read-Only is that allowing an IMAP client to write a free-format flat file would open up a pandora's box of security problems. For example, if Pine could write a .forward file in someone's home directory, what would prevent it from writing a .cshrc file or .rhosts file? At least with a mailbox format file you are not too likely to be able to do that kind of damage. Solving that and other problems would take IMAPd far down a path that we are not eager to explore in a "message access" service... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 3 May 1995, Jason Haar wrote: > Date: 3 May 1995 16:54:10 GMT > From: Jason Haar > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Filtering and IMAP > > In article dlm@cac.washington.edu wrote: > > > Filtering on a black-box IMAP server (no shell access) is currently an > > unsolved problem. We have implemented a partial solution in our tmail > > delivery agent by supporting "user+folder" addressing, e.g. if you send a > > message to dlm+pine@cac.washington.edu it will be delivered straight to my > > "pine" incoming folder.... > > To me IMAP seems so close to allowing this... > > IMAP allows you to open non-mail folders, so couldn't there be some way of > getting IMAP to edit files like .forward and .procmailrc? > > Actually, this reminds me of an earlier post I made asking if IMAP could > be used to store a central .pinerc file on the IMAP server instead of the > client - same principle - just opened up a bit further... Local filters > like procmail would be more efficient than getting the mailer to go > through filter hoops... > > That would be most excellent - but it would be moving away from the > simple model... > > -- > > Cheers, > > Jason > +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ > | Jason Haar, European SysAdmin Phone: + 44 (256) 790577 | > | Motorola Cellular Subscriber Fax: + 44 (256) 790519 | > | Basingstoke, Hampshire | > | RG21 1PL, ENGLAND Internet: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com | > +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 14:21:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00160; Thu, 4 May 95 14:21:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02996; Thu, 4 May 95 14:10:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost.primenet.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02990; Thu, 4 May 95 14:10:22 -0700 Received: from usr1.primenet.com (usr1.primenet.com [198.68.32.11]) by mailhost.primenet.com (8.6.11/wjp-h2.0) with ESMTP id OAA22562; Thu, 4 May 1995 14:10:21 -0700 Received: (rosss@localhost) by usr1.primenet.com (8.6.11/wjp-c2.0) id OAA22549; Thu, 4 May 1995 14:10:20 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 14:10:19 -0700 (MST) From: Scott Ross To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: What is core.pine and why is it so large? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Thanks for the reply, that's a big load off of my shoulders. I get charged for going over 5M with my provider and that file put me dangerously close. The only "crash" I've ever had with Pine is when I'm telnetting in to my provider to check my mail and my connection drops. That must be where the file came from. I'm happy to report to you that I find your program EXTREMELY stable and very easy yet powerful to use. I go through about 150 messages a day and have never had anything go wrong with PINE. I do have a problem with my carriage returns messing up quoted text in messages (by justifying them) but am sure that is User Error since I haven't tried to investigate it. Again, thanks for the reply. Scott Ross rosss@primenet.com On Thu, 4 May 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > You must have had a Pine crash at some point. The core file is an image > of memory when the program crashed. We would like to know the > circumstances of the crash, but the core file can be deleted... > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On 3 May 1995, Scott Ross wrote: > > > Date: 3 May 1995 04:11:42 GMT > > From: Scott Ross > > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > Subject: What is core.pine and why is it so large? > > > > Hi, my provider charges extra for storage over 5MB, so I checked my disk > > space usage and core.pine was almost 3MB. What exactly is it and why > > would it be so large? Thanks in advance... > > > > Scott Ross > > rosss@primenet.com > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 14:38:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00735; Thu, 4 May 95 14:38:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03390; Thu, 4 May 95 14:29:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from oeonline.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03384; Thu, 4 May 95 14:29:20 -0700 Received: by oeonline.oeonline.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0s78Jq-0001wjC; Thu, 4 May 95 17:20 EDT Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 17:20:09 -400 (EDT) From: Edward Morykwas Subject: Printer Configuration To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Greetings-- I'd love to be able to print my incoming e-mail on paper using Pine, but I can't seem to find the right configuration! My system is not exotic: an IBM-compatible 486 with an HP Deskjet 540 printer. Could anyone help me get set up correctly? Many, many thanks, --Ed Edward Morykwas edog@oeonline.com Troy, Michigan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 16:17:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08967; Thu, 4 May 95 16:17:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10709; Thu, 4 May 95 16:05:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10703; Thu, 4 May 95 16:05:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s79or-00038RC; Thu, 4 May 95 15:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Leaving read messages in INBOX Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 17:42:48 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3nppir$4b6@cougar.vut.edu.au> Status: O X-Status: On 28 Apr 1995, Leng Kaing wrote: > Noam Ben Yochanan (noam@brachot.jct.ac.il) wrote: > > : Hello all, > > : In elm it's possible to leave read messages in the incomming mail file, > : meaning I can leave a message there until I deal with it. Pine doesn't seem > : to support this option. It considers every read message as deleted ('D') when > : exiting. This really sucks, pardon the expression. I got around it by > : undeleting all the messages I want to keep, expunging all the ones I want to > : delete and then exiting. This is of course error prone (I made the error > : today :-( ) and inelegant. > > > : Isn't there any way I can just tell the system to treat deleted/saved massges > : in a different maner than read messages? i.e. NEVER to have 'D' appear next > : to a message that was read but not deleted or saved? maybe an option in > : .pinerc I missed or misunderstud? > > : Please reply by e-mail. > > Mine only gets marked as Deleted if I save the file into a folder, or > delete it myself. Otherwise, it's left in the INBOX with no letters in front > (meaning it's been read). I'm using unix pine by the way. > And there is even an option so that save will not delete. I agree with the last poster (Leng) that Pine does NOT mark read mail as Deleted - there is no option to set it up that way either. ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 16:56:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10280; Thu, 4 May 95 16:56:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00878; Thu, 4 May 95 16:50:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00872; Thu, 4 May 95 16:50:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7AXn-00038TC; Thu, 4 May 95 16:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jroach@ainet.com (jroach) Subject: ATTENTION 40SOMETHING & OVER MALE/FEMALE Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 19:00:50 GMT Status: O X-Status: Need volenteers for anonymous research project dealing with people who use or are hooked on on-line world. MUST be candid & willing to tell all call between 7:30 am-7:30pm pacific time ask for MissB12. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 17:37:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12505; Thu, 4 May 95 17:37:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01639; Thu, 4 May 95 17:20:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01633; Thu, 4 May 95 17:20:42 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26633; Thu, 4 May 95 17:20:35 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 17:20:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Brad Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Suggestion: Completion for Address Book Names/Fcc Folder Names In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 3 May 1995, Brad wrote: > I guess I don't really have to add much more after that Subject line, > do I? ;) Anyway... The search for a nickname in the address books is done using a hash table in order to obtain sufficient speed. The hash value depends on all of the characters in the nickname, so it is difficult to do completion with only some of the name. So probably it won't be implemented soon. Sorry. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 18:13:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13473; Thu, 4 May 95 18:13:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13218; Thu, 4 May 95 18:05:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13212; Thu, 4 May 95 18:05:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7Bg1-00038RC; Thu, 4 May 95 17:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rahul Dhesi Subject: Re: forcing mail check Date: 4 May 1995 08:38:46 GMT Message-Id: <3oa3qm$dck@hustle.rahul.net> References: Status: O X-Status: In harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) writes: >And if you have a sane newsreader, it >will let you use an alternate editor from the one in the EDITOR >environment variable. But... >...It isn't [an editor] I want, it's *Pine*. If you wish to use a mail agent of your choice to respond by email to News postings: Create a tiny program called 'mailme', and a suitable macro for your news reader that will pipe a News posting through this program. Here is the program that I use: #! /bin/sh # Mail me the input, used from rn or nn to convert articles # to mail messages. Standard input must contain all needed headers. # -i tells sendmail to ignore dots in input. R. Dhesi /bin/cat $* | /usr/lib/sendmail -i dhesi When you wish to send an email response to a News posting, just pipe it through the 'mailme' command. This converts it into an incoming email message. Later you can invoke your favorite mail agent and reply to your incoming mail normally. You can recognize the messages that were piped into 'mailme' from News because they will contain Path: headers. -- Rahul Dhesi "please ignore Dhesi" -- Mark Crispin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 19:56:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20205; Thu, 4 May 95 19:56:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19899; Thu, 4 May 95 19:50:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19893; Thu, 4 May 95 19:50:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7DMq-00038TC; Thu, 4 May 95 19:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: smann@interactive.net (Steve Mann) Subject: full header Date: 3 May 1995 21:12:48 GMT Message-Id: <3o8rkg$qql@ns1.interactive.net> Status: O X-Status: Hi, I am having a problem with the enable-full-header option in the setup. One of the users needs to see a field called "Received From" and does not see it. I have set up someone else *exactly* the same in the .pinerc and it works, but in this case it does not display. Any ideas are greatly appreciated. Thanx much. Steve smann@ultrix.ramapo.edu For Shell, SLIP, PPP account info, smann@interactive.net finger info@interactive.net 201-818-0180 WWW - http://www.interactive.net 201-722-1632 Questions? Comments? Send mail to: 201-934-9357 staff@interactive.net => "Never put off until tomorrow that which can be done the day after tomorrow." -Mark Twain => Did you know that you were wearing the same clothes the day after yesterday? Me =-P From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 21:31:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22601; Thu, 4 May 95 21:31:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04843; Thu, 4 May 95 21:25:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04837; Thu, 4 May 95 21:25:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7EtY-00038RC; Thu, 4 May 95 21:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Eric D. Friedman" Subject: Re: ---->> Non- US-ASCII character sets Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 10:39:21 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3o1ukr$a5t@news.ysu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE In-Reply-To: <3o1ukr$a5t@news.ysu.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 1 May 1995, Barry Bouwsma wrote: > > I'm running a vt100 terminal shell on a Unix system from a > >Macintosh, for what it's worth.=20 >=20 > This could be a problem. What Mac program are you using? How is > that program configured -- does it do the translation from the mail's > ISO 8859-1 character set to the Mac display set? And what do you see > when messages ``don't include accents''? With NCSA Telnet for the Mac, > look to see what is selected under Translation... Thanks to Barry for pointing this out. The problem was indeed with Zterm, my modem program, which doesn't support anything better than vt100 as a=20 terminal setting. Once I switched to NCSA Telnet 2.6 and changed the translation to ISO 8859-1, things have been working just fine. I'd be=20 grateful, however, if some other folks could confirm this for me. =20 Here's a little test string of some accented characters: =E9=E8=A7=BB=EC=EB=EA=E8=E7=E6=E4=F3=E1=F1=F7re=F6=E3=F8=FA=EE=ED If anyone receives these as a set of characters with accents, I'd be=20 grateful for a note telling me so. =20 Thanks again Barry and others, Eric D. Friedman Department of English and Comparative Literature University of California, Irvine eahg076@ea.oac.uci.edu=09***Mime, BinHex, UUencode, 8-bit character sets OK= *** FAX (714) 824-2916=09 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 22:00:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23174; Thu, 4 May 95 22:00:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21537; Thu, 4 May 95 21:50:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21531; Thu, 4 May 95 21:50:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7FL9-00038TC; Thu, 4 May 95 21:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rross@lang1.langara.bc.ca (Ron Ross) Subject: Re: Handling digests Date: 4 May 1995 17:26:41 GMT Message-Id: <3ob2oh$cn5@vcc7.vcc.bc.ca> References: Status: O X-Status: Douglas Bates (bates@stat.wisc.edu) wrote: : I hope this isn't in the FAQ ... : Is there a way in pine of "undigesting" mail received in digest form? The procmail package has a facility to separate digests into the separate mail entries. Try the mail filtering FAQ. -- ___ Oo .:/ (___)o_o ,,///;, ,;/ //====--//(_) o:::::::;;/// Ron Ross \\ ^ >::::::::;;\\\ ''\\\\\'" ';\ I'd rather be diving !!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 22:09:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24467; Thu, 4 May 95 22:09:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05319; Thu, 4 May 95 22:05:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05313; Thu, 4 May 95 22:05:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7FZt-00038TC; Thu, 4 May 95 22:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rross@lang1.langara.bc.ca (Ron Ross) Subject: Re: Automatic Forwarding Date: 4 May 1995 17:28:17 GMT Message-Id: <3ob2rh$cn5@vcc7.vcc.bc.ca> References: <3o8mnc$4o1@gold.interlog.com> Status: O X-Status: David Ryan (ryan@interlog.com) wrote: : Is it possible to have automaitc forwarding in pine? It's not a pine function, it's a sendmail function. Try setting up a .forward file in your account. -- ___ Oo .:/ (___)o_o ,,///;, ,;/ //====--//(_) o:::::::;;/// Ron Ross \\ ^ >::::::::;;\\\ ''\\\\\'" ';\ I'd rather be diving !!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 22:41:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28551; Thu, 4 May 95 22:41:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27304; Thu, 4 May 95 22:35:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27298; Thu, 4 May 95 22:35:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7Fv6-00038RC; Thu, 4 May 95 22:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Printer Configuration Date: 5 May 1995 02:29:01 GMT Message-Id: <3oc2hd$ors@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Edward Morykwas (edog@oeonline.com) wrote: : I'd love to be able to print my incoming e-mail on paper using : Pine, but I can't seem to find the right configuration! : My system is not exotic: an IBM-compatible 486 with an HP Deskjet : 540 printer. Could anyone help me get set up correctly? Ed: Put your email on-screen and type Y for prYnt. Don't blame me, I didna have nothin to do with the command sets, just another frustrated user tryin to learn Greek. If it doesn't work, make sure you have your printer config set to #1 attached to ansi. If it skips lines (which it probably will if ya got one o those high speed video cards and modems) set your modem to a lower speed (like 1200 or 2400) because you see the pine prYnt command is not really a Print command afterall, but it's really a screen capture utility, so ya have to slow your screen down. Re-reading this, I realize it's probably very confusing, so if you have any questions, please feel free to e-mail me and/or follow up to this post. The persons who wrote the pine program assumed that we were all unix, BYE. /\ /~~\/\ /\ John (aka DearOldDad) /\ / \/ / \ /\/\ \ /\ /\ / \/ / / \/POCONO MTNS PA DearOldDad:The older I get, the smarter I used to be./\ \/ jgvd@epix.net Jonathan:Kids are people too; Have guitar, will travel.\ /\ \ \/\ \ Thought for the day: / / / / / / / \/ \ \/ \/\ If you ASCII silly question, then you'll get a silly ANSI!_\/____\_\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 22:53:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28790; Thu, 4 May 95 22:53:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05859; Thu, 4 May 95 22:50:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05853; Thu, 4 May 95 22:50:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7GFA-00038RC; Thu, 4 May 95 22:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vwalker@netcom.com (Vic Walker) Subject: Re: Latest version of Pine. Message-Id: References: <3o5ku7$qr0@news.cais.com> Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 05:23:46 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <3o5ku7$qr0@news.cais.com> you wrote: : I am running Pine v3.89 and am having problems with my spell checker. I : just says could not find file... Does anyone have a solution to this?? : Also where can I get the latest for Linux and possibly for my pc. : : Next If anyone has info on software for a POP server that would be great! : : Thanks. Let me second fbennet@cais.com's request. I have not been able to get the spell checker to work for Pine under Linux either. The version is Pine 3.91. The Pico version is 2.5, and I'm using ispell 3.1.08 for the speller. When I try to spell check (^T), I get the ispell help screen, which suggests that ispell is being called but the correct file name is not being passed on. I asked about this a few days ago, but never saw an answer. If the Pine/Pico experts in Washington State (or elsewhere) could help us, you'll have at least two grateful users (fbennet and me.) Vic Walker vwalker@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 23:52:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29937; Thu, 4 May 95 23:52:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06448; Thu, 4 May 95 23:47:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06442; Thu, 4 May 95 23:47:15 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetD-2.5.1.f) via EUnet id IAA17545; Fri, 5 May 1995 08:49:02 +0200 Received: from sunshine.fz.telekom.de (sunshine.fz.telekom.de [192.166.56.22]) by eunetgate.fz.telekom.de (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA00916 for ; Fri, 5 May 1995 08:35:48 +0200 Received: from sun51.fz.telekom.de (sun51.fz.telekom.de [192.166.56.95]) by sunshine.fz.telekom.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA23466 for ; Fri, 5 May 1995 08:34:03 +0200 Received: by sun51.fz.telekom.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25522; Fri, 5 May 95 08:36:53 +0200 Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 08:36:53 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ralf Widera Reply-To: widera@fz.telekom.de To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: subscribe Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 00:11:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00583; Fri, 5 May 95 00:11:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28510; Fri, 5 May 95 00:05:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28504; Fri, 5 May 95 00:05:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7HRx-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 00:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: What is core.pine and why is it so large? Date: 4 May 1995 23:30:58 GMT Message-Id: <3obo3i$pf3@news.ysu.edu> References: The only "crash" I've ever had with Pine is when I'm >telnetting in to my provider to check my mail and my connection drops. >That must be where the file came from. Perhaps... I have an account with a service provider who is using BSD/OS or BSD/386, and core dumps get the name of the process which was running appended, as opposed to the simple file named core which I get from other systems I use. Are you, by chance, using a BSD/OS system? On this system, it is a frequent occurrence that people get dropped and their orphaned Pine process spins out of control, taking as much CPU as it can and driving the system load up. I've told the SysAdmins here that when they see such a Pine session, they should just kill it. With a signal given to a running Pine process, such as kill -QUIT , I can force my hung Pine sessions to create a core.pine file -- maybe your provider has given your Pine session such a kill command... >I do have a problem with my carriage returns messing up >quoted text in messages (by justifying them) but am sure that is User >Error Nope, I don't think so. I have this same problem and more when I telnet to the BSD/OS system from NCSA telnet for the Mac -- it doesn't appear to get the proper stty settings, so that your RETURN is sent and interpreted as the ^J linefeed. I can telnet to this BSD/OS from other telnet clients and use Pine and Emacs with no problems, and I can also telnet from Mac NCSA telnet to other OS machines and use Pine or Emacs with no problems. Presumably there are other telnet clients which have problems with the BSD/OS telnetd, and other telnetd's that have problems with Mac NCSA telnet. I get around this by telnetting from Mac NCSA telnet to a different machine, from which I telnet again to the BSD/OS. Awkward, but it works around the problems I have... -- Barry Bouwsma, will crash computers for chocolate and dental care Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) LOAD "SENDMAIL",8,1 driving a 300 baud Trabant on the Datenautobahn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 00:16:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00698; Fri, 5 May 95 00:16:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06816; Fri, 5 May 95 00:11:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06809; Fri, 5 May 95 00:11:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7HU0-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 00:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: charnoft@wfu.edu (Forrest T Charnock) Subject: Automatic mailing list? Date: 5 May 1995 02:14:48 GMT Message-Id: <3oc1mo$6l4@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Is there any way to generate automatic mailing lists using pine? I mean, someone sends me mail with "add me!" in the body and they are automatically added to a mail group. -- ************************************************************************* Olin Physical Lab Wake Forest University Winston-Salem, NC http://www.wfu.edu/~charnoft KE4RJG * * * * * "I wish these damn scientists would leave intelligence to the experts." --Gen. Richard Stillwell From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 03:31:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04858; Fri, 5 May 95 03:31:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01076; Fri, 5 May 95 03:16:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01070; Fri, 5 May 95 03:16:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7KPy-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 03:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Eric D. Friedman" Subject: ---->> Non- US-ASCII character sets Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 21:20:17 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Can anyone tell me how to configure pine so that it will display the 8 bit characters used for French, German, and spanish diacritics (accents)? I've changed the character-set value in Pine's 3.91's setup menu to ISO-8859-1 with no success. From time to time, however, some messages do make it through which include accents, presumably because of something the sender did. I'm running a vt100 terminal shell on a Unix system from a Macintosh, for what it's worth. Extra bonus points to the person who can tell me how to type accents into Pine-unix from my Mac keyboard or from an X-term. I would be very grateful if could be cc'ed on any replies to this post. I'm at eahg076@ea.oac.uci.edu Many thanks, Eric From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 04:37:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06903; Fri, 5 May 95 04:37:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09689; Fri, 5 May 95 04:24:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09683; Fri, 5 May 95 04:24:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7LNA-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 04:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: not-so-FAQ re: IMAP ?? Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 18:28:49 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3ns11o$ecf@cmi.hahnemann.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3ns11o$ecf@cmi.hahnemann.edu> Status: O X-Status: This is going to change when Pine converts to IMAP4. The present way of doing this is to set those folders up as subdirectories of ~ftp, as if you were setting up an anonymous FTP server. Then, create the file /etc/anonymous.newsgroups The folders can then be accessed through Pine as collection *{server/anonymous}[] As I said, this is going to change in IMAP4. Most likely, the collection name will become something like: {server/anonymous}#ftp#[] Although there may be some other means of exporting public files besides this. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. On 29 Apr 1995, A. Andrew Brennan wrote: > Ok ... I've checked in the Pine technical notes, the comp.mail.pine > directory in RTFM's Usenet FAQ archive and some of the notes with the > IMAPd code I picked up for Linux. Can't seem to find the answer to > this - just hints. > > How's one setup anonymously accessible folders? I'm interested in > dumping our old BULLETIN system and replacing it with folders that > people can access using the Pine mailer (or other IMAP clients). > Given what little I've seen so far, I'm not sure that this is the > implementation I want to use ... but it might be. > > andrew. (brennan@hal.hahnemann.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 04:46:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07067; Fri, 5 May 95 04:46:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02191; Fri, 5 May 95 04:26:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02185; Fri, 5 May 95 04:26:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7LUU-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 04:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Subject: Re: forcing mail check Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 09:07:33 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 2 May 1995, Trey Harris wrote: > > 3.92 is turning out to be chock-full o' code changes so it is probably > > going to be more Beta-ey than 3.91 when it is first released. (That word I > > just made up is pronounced BAY TAH EEE and it means it probably won't work > > quite right for everyone. :-) No, no, no, that's BEE TUH, not BAY TAH! Sheesh, you Americans are strange. ;) ;) ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(,_(,)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>, _>, WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 05:05:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07805; Fri, 5 May 95 05:05:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02614; Fri, 5 May 95 04:56:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02608; Fri, 5 May 95 04:56:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7Lze-00038XC; Fri, 5 May 95 04:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lmdjan@lmd.ericsson.se (LMD/T/RB Jakob Henning Andersen) Subject: Confirm reading facility ? Date: 2 May 1995 14:38:02 GMT Message-Id: <3o5g4a$e0q@erinews.ericsson.se> Status: O X-Status: Hello, Does PINE - like PEGASUS - provide a confirm reading facility ? /Jakob -- ________________________________________________________________ Jakob Andersen lmdjan@lmd.ericsson.se TR/B Voice: +45 33883071 L.M Ericsson A/S - Denmark Fax: +45 33883131 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 05:05:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07829; Fri, 5 May 95 05:05:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09996; Fri, 5 May 95 04:56:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09990; Fri, 5 May 95 04:56:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7Lyo-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 04:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lmdjan@lmd.ericsson.se (LMD/T/RB Jakob Henning Andersen) Subject: Confirm reading Date: 2 May 1995 14:35:45 GMT Message-Id: <3o5g01$e0q@erinews.ericsson.se> Status: O X-Status: Hello ! Does PINE - like Pegasus - provide a "confirm reading" facility? /Jakob -- ________________________________________________________________ Jakob Andersen lmdjan@lmd.ericsson.se TR/B Voice: +45 33883071 L.M Ericsson A/S - Denmark Fax: +45 33883131 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 05:53:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09031; Fri, 5 May 95 05:53:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10529; Fri, 5 May 95 05:41:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10523; Fri, 5 May 95 05:41:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7Mdo-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 05:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "H. Marc Kneppers" Subject: Re: IMAP confusion (and addressbook too) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 09:06:54 -0600 Message-Id: References: <97dc-0105951148430001@student_97dc.williams.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 1 May 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > You don't need an SMTP gateway, but do you do need an SMTP server > somewhere to talk to. If your PC is on the Internet, almost any system > will do, but you should probably pick a machine that is local to you > (e.g. your local UNIX machine). > > You tell PC-Pine which server to use by setting the smtp-server > configuration parameter. > I've got the server - you're right, it's our local UNIX machine. WHen I send mail however, it doesn't work. I get the messages that the SMTP connection "went away". THe machine I am connecting to is running svr4 UNIX and it handles SMTP just fine. I've got the smtp-server configuration parameter set to the UNIX machine's name and that works fine since I can go to the UNIX machine and get IMAP to serve me a file. Are there any permissions that I need to set or extra files that I need to enter the IMAP service in (other than /etc/services and inetd.conf)? Does SMTP need to be told to expect mail from outside the local machine or does IMAp take care of that? We aren't connected to the net yet but we do have IP addressed on the UNIX machine and the PC's Thanks Marc Kneppers kneppers@acs.ucalgary.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 06:26:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09714; Fri, 5 May 95 06:26:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03764; Fri, 5 May 95 06:16:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03758; Fri, 5 May 95 06:16:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7NCf-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 06:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: ---->> Non- US-ASCII character sets Date: 1 May 1995 06:21:14 GMT Message-Id: <3o1ukr$a5t@news.ysu.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In a previous article, eahg076@taurus.oac.uci.edu ("Eric D. Friedman") says: >Can anyone tell me how to configure pine so that it will display the 8 bit >characters used for French, German, and spanish diacritics (accents)? Make sure you have an 8-bit path from your Pine session to your display, and have a suitable (ISO 8859-1) font selected. Generally the first seems to be the default, while you may need to change something to get the second to happen. (In your case, you do have the 8-bit path.) >I've changed the character-set value in Pine's 3.91's setup menu to >ISO-8859-1 with no success. From time to time, however, some messages do >make it through which include accents, presumably because of something the >sender did. Then that sender is probably making proper use of MIME to get the messages to you intact. Other messages probably are either using an encoding which differs from yours, or are losing the 8th bit due to not making use of MIME, depending on what you see. > I'm running a vt100 terminal shell on a Unix system from a >Macintosh, for what it's worth. This could be a problem. What Mac program are you using? How is that program configured -- does it do the translation from the mail's ISO 8859-1 character set to the Mac display set? And what do you see when messages ``don't include accents''? With NCSA Telnet for the Mac, look to see what is selected under Translation... >Extra bonus points to the person who can tell me how to type accents into >Pine-unix from my Mac keyboard or from an X-term. Make sure you have an 8-bit input path to your Pine session, with stty pass8 or whatever is needed. From your Mac, choose a different keyboard to correspond with the language you intend to use, or make use of the Option (I think it is) key, which, when combined with, say, the character ``u'', adds a diaeresis (umlaut) to the character typed next. Or use Popchar. From your xterm, use the Compose key or the Meta key, whatever is set up to work for you, to apply an accent to a character. (For example, Compose " followed by u should give the u-diaeresis, which could also be created as Meta | .) You may need to set some additional environment variables depending on your setup. >I would be very grateful if could be cc'ed on any replies to this post. Ooops, this newsreader only permits e-mail or newsposting, not both... -- Barry Bouwsma, will crash computers for chocolate and dental care Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) LOAD "SENDMAIL",8,1 driving a 300 baud Trabant on the Datenautobahn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 06:38:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09932; Fri, 5 May 95 06:38:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03965; Fri, 5 May 95 06:33:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hydra.naz.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03959; Fri, 5 May 95 06:33:23 -0700 Received: by hydra.naz.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA17815; Fri, 5 May 95 09:34:36 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 09:34:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael A. Naud" To: Pine Discussion Group Subject: help with IMAP & PC-Pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I just downloaded the latest ver. of Pc-Pine. I am trying to access my mail from one of my UNIX machines running IMAP. I can't seem to do it. Here is what it looks like My PC with PC-Pine Host1 running IMAP2 Host2 running IMAP2 I can use Pc-Pine to read mail on Host1 I cannot use Pc-Pine to read mail on Host2 but I CAN use Pine on Host1 to read mail on Host2 What gives? I could understand if I could not read mail on Host2 from anywhere, but I just have a problem when using Pc-Pine. TIA for any help. ---- Michael A. Naud Internet: manaud@naz.edu Internet Administrator Fascimile: 716.586.2452 Nazareth College, Rochester NY 14618 Voice: 716.586.2525 x827 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 08:29:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12932; Fri, 5 May 95 08:29:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12343; Fri, 5 May 95 08:12:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12337; Fri, 5 May 95 08:12:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7P0N-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 08:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: james@abel.richland.cc.il.us (James Jones) Subject: Public Use of Pine Date: 5 May 1995 00:05:49 -0500 Message-Id: <3ocbnd$16j@abel.richland.cc.il.us> Status: O X-Status: We have PC's available for student use which are connected to a terminal server through serial lines using trumpet winsock with wfw311. Right now, our students have to telnet into our linux host and run pine from a shell. Frequently, pine will lock or a student will go off without logging out. What I would like to be able to do is have the students not even have to login to the unix machine to get their mail. I would like to have them sit down at the public terminals, run pine, supply a login name and password, and get their mail without having to mess with the linux side of it. I don't want any user information stored on the local machines since it will be a different person using it the next time. I got pc-pine to run once and ask all that information, but then it asked me if I wanted to write the information to the ini file. This is unacceptatble. I can't have students using their information as the defaults (even though some of them live at the terminals). I have IMAP setup so that I can read from pc-pine in my office (where I am the only person who uses that machine) - but I want to provide generic mail capabilities where the username is grabbed from the linux system based on the login name and password supplied. I need to know if there is some way I can do this. Thanks. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- James D. Jones: Mathematics Instructor & Internet System Administrator Richland Comm. College, Decatur. IL Opinions expressed are my own ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 08:44:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13467; Fri, 5 May 95 08:44:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05903; Fri, 5 May 95 08:33:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05897; Fri, 5 May 95 08:33:45 -0700 Received: by ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-940815-1) id AA17312; Fri, 5 May 95 11:33:43 EDT Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 11:33:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Schlitt To: David L Miller Cc: Cynthia Guy , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: compressing a pine folder/file In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: There should be nothing to stop a user from compressing a folder themselves provided they are on a host where there is a compress program available. As I understand it the mail folders are just files. This particular request was for compressing the monthly old mail files and this approach would not be that bad in this case. The user would just uncompress them, again manually, if the need to look at the contents arose. The only requirement that this would place on Pine would be that it handle the compressed file in a place where it expected to find a mail folder. It is a far cry from compressing and uncompressing folders on the fly but it should take care of some situations. /dan -- Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 09:42:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16195; Fri, 5 May 95 09:42:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14112; Fri, 5 May 95 09:36:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from zodiac.unl.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14104; Fri, 5 May 95 09:36:40 -0700 Received: by zodiac.unl.ac.uk (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA17599; Fri, 5 May 1995 17:35:29 +0100 Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 17:35:29 +0100 From: cwf@zodiac.unl.ac.uk (Clifford) Message-Id: <9505051635.AA17599@zodiac.unl.ac.uk> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: cguy@uspto.gov Subject: Re: compressing a pine folder/file Content-Length: 1456 Status: O X-Status: Cynthia Why not start pine with a script which uncompresses the relevant months. Current an however months back by default and perhaps a month name as a parameter to unpack as far back as that month. Clifford W Fulford University of North London CLMS-UNIX development E-mail: Clifford@zodiac.unl.ac.uk Clifford@compulink.co.uk C.Fulford@unl.ac.uk Telephone: 071-607-2789 x 7314. Home 081-986-5239 response to ------------------------------------------------------------------ There should be nothing to stop a user from compressing a folder themselves provided they are on a host where there is a compress program available. As I understand it the mail folders are just files. This particular request was for compressing the monthly old mail files and this approach would not be that bad in this case. The user would just uncompress them, again manually, if the need to look at the contents arose. The only requirement that this would place on Pine would be that it handle the compressed file in a place where it expected to find a mail folder. It is a far cry from compressing and uncompressing folders on the fly but it should take care of some situations. Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 10:48:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18677; Fri, 5 May 95 10:48:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15355; Fri, 5 May 95 10:36:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15349; Fri, 5 May 95 10:36:56 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26449; Fri, 5 May 95 10:36:53 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 10:36:50 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jonathan and DearOldDad Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Printer Configuration In-Reply-To: <3oc2hd$ors@grape.epix.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: No, the print command in Pine is not a screen capture utility. The problem is that an unfortunately large number of communication packages have broken or non-existant implementations of ANSI printer controls. Pine has a very simple procedure for printing. First, it sends an escape sequence to switch output to the printer, then it sends the text, then it sends the sequence to switch back to the screen. A properly functioning ANSI emulation will not affect the display while printing. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 5 May 1995, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: > Date: 5 May 1995 02:29:01 GMT > From: Jonathan and DearOldDad > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Printer Configuration > > Edward Morykwas (edog@oeonline.com) wrote: > > : I'd love to be able to print my incoming e-mail on paper using > : Pine, but I can't seem to find the right configuration! > : My system is not exotic: an IBM-compatible 486 with an HP Deskjet > : 540 printer. Could anyone help me get set up correctly? > > Ed: Put your email on-screen and type Y for prYnt. Don't blame me, I > didna have nothin to do with the command sets, just another frustrated > user tryin to learn Greek. If it doesn't work, make sure you have your > printer config set to #1 attached to ansi. If it skips lines (which it > probably will if ya got one o those high speed video cards and modems) > set your modem to a lower speed (like 1200 or 2400) because you see the > pine prYnt command is not really a Print command afterall, but it's > really a screen capture utility, so ya have to slow your screen down. > > Re-reading this, I realize it's probably very confusing, so if you have > any questions, please feel free to e-mail me and/or follow up to this > post. The persons who wrote the pine program assumed that we were all > unix, BYE. > /\ /~~\/\ /\ > John (aka DearOldDad) /\ / \/ / \ /\/\ \ /\ > /\ / \/ / / \/POCONO MTNS PA > DearOldDad:The older I get, the smarter I used to be./\ \/ jgvd@epix.net > Jonathan:Kids are people too; Have guitar, will travel.\ /\ \ \/\ \ > Thought for the day: / / / / / / / \/ \ \/ \/\ > If you ASCII silly question, then you'll get a silly ANSI!_\/____\_\ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 11:08:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19706; Fri, 5 May 95 11:08:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15877; Fri, 5 May 95 10:59:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15871; Fri, 5 May 95 10:59:34 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27036; Fri, 5 May 95 10:59:19 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 10:59:17 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Vic Walker Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, fbennet@cais.com Subject: Re: Latest version of Pine. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: The current Linux port of Pine assumes that the standard spell checker is /bin/spell and that it works the same as on other Unix versions. To get ispell to work, see the question about ispell in the Pine FAQ. Here is an excerpt: 2. Pine already checks the SPELL environment variable so you can create the following script and name it spell. #!/bin/sh ispell -l | sort | uniq To make Ctrl-T in pine use 'ispell' and your '$HOME/.ispell_words' dictionary: + make the above script file 'spell' in your home directory + make it executable: 'chmod u+x spell' + set the environment variable SPELL: 'setenv SPELL $HOME/spell' (you may include this command in your .profile, .cshrc or .login file) Now, when you press Ctrl-T in Pine, you will execute the ispell program, and it will recognize words stored in the private dictionary. The screen display will look like pine is using the standard spell-checking program. Unfortunately, this method does not allow the user to Insert words into the private dictionary. However, this might be useful with a central script file (setenv SPELL ...) and a central private dictionary (ispell -p ...) to provide a common private dictionary for an entire workgroup. The manager could add items to the private dictionary; ordinary pine users would use the private dictionary (Ctrl-T), but they could not change it. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 5 May 1995, Vic Walker wrote: > Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 05:23:46 GMT > From: Vic Walker > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Latest version of Pine. > > > In article <3o5ku7$qr0@news.cais.com> you wrote: > : I am running Pine v3.89 and am having problems with my spell checker. I > : just says could not find file... Does anyone have a solution to this?? > : Also where can I get the latest for Linux and possibly for my pc. > : > : Next If anyone has info on software for a POP server that would be great! > : > : Thanks. > > Let me second fbennet@cais.com's request. I have not been able to get the > spell checker to work for Pine under Linux either. The version is Pine > 3.91. The Pico version is 2.5, and I'm using ispell 3.1.08 for the > speller. When I try to spell check (^T), I get the ispell help screen, > which suggests that ispell is being called but the correct file name is > not being passed on. I asked about this a few days ago, but never saw an > answer. > > If the Pine/Pico experts in Washington State (or elsewhere) could help > us, you'll have at least two grateful users (fbennet and me.) > > Vic Walker > vwalker@netcom.com > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 11:44:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21732; Fri, 5 May 95 11:44:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10445; Fri, 5 May 95 11:39:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10439; Fri, 5 May 95 11:39:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7SE4-00038XC; Fri, 5 May 95 11:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: not-so-FAQ re: IMAP ?? Date: 29 Apr 1995 11:57:25 GMT Message-Id: <3nt9j5$nag@news.ysu.edu> References: <3ns11o$ecf@cmi.hahnemann.edu> Status: O X-Status: In a previous article, mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin) says: (about how to set up anonymous IMAP access to FTP server files...) >This is going to change when Pine converts to IMAP4. The present way of >doing this is to set those folders up as subdirectories of ~ftp, as if >you were setting up an anonymous FTP server. Then, create the file > /etc/anonymous.newsgroups >The folders can then be accessed through Pine as collection > *{server/anonymous}[] Can you say more about this? Specifically, is it sufficient to touch /etc/anonymous.newsgroups , or should it contain entries? And if it should, what should be the format of those entries? And it appears that the folders need to be specified as *{imap.server/anonymous}path/name/[] I make this claim in that the Pine home FTP server, ftp.cac.washington.edu when accessed in the manner you give from Pine3.91, returns the contents of the ~ftp chrooted top-level directory. Text files in that directory are readable by Pine, but subdirectories such as pine/ fail to be opened by the IMAP client Pine. In other words, for me to access the archives of pine-info, which I do on occasion from Pine, the proper format with 3.91 and IMAP2bis is Pine-info *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] ...which, as a .pinerc entry, gives me as folders, all the months of pine-info. (Can't wait to see lots of other mail archives made available this way instead of multi-kilo/megabyte files for anon FTP!) Thanks... -- Barry Bouwsma, will crash computers for chocolate and dental care Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) LOAD "SENDMAIL",8,1 driving a 300 baud Trabant on the Datenautobahn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 12:54:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25321; Fri, 5 May 95 12:54:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18748; Fri, 5 May 95 12:49:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18742; Fri, 5 May 95 12:49:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7TIm-00038SC; Fri, 5 May 95 12:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: david@services.more.net (David Drum) Subject: Re: Automated Reply...How to setup? Date: 5 May 1995 14:17:12 GMT Message-Id: <3odc18$r2a@news.missouri.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: STORM (storm@usr2.primenet.com) wrote: : Or is there an easier way to create an : automated reply/mailbot? install procmail Contents of .forward: "|IFS=' ';exec /usr/local/bin/procmail #your userid" Contents of .procmailrc: SHELL=/bin/sh PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin :0 h c * !^FROM_DAEMON * !^Precedence: junk" | (formail -r -A"Precedence: junk";\ cat $HOME/autoresponse) | $SENDMAIL -t Move your signature file into a file called autoresponse. That should do it. Regards, David -- "That man has a rare gift for obfuscation." -- ST:DS9 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 13:25:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27134; Fri, 5 May 95 13:25:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13099; Fri, 5 May 95 13:19:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13093; Fri, 5 May 95 13:19:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7TlL-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 13:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Lipscomb Subject: newsgroup selection Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 14:08:01 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Pine 3.92 wish list idea: allow the selection of multiple newsgroups in the "add/subscribe" newsgroups feature. I realize Pine prompts if you "really" want to subscribe to "x.y.z" newsgroup. this would help since the newsgroup lookup is often time-sonsuming. the addition of multiple groups takes a little more time than it ought to. the first generation of idiot programmer(s) (not the Pine team mind you) who first placed in their code the idea of "do you REALLY want to do this" should be shot and forced to read LOGO. of course I wanted to "do this". why do you think I pressed the key! just my $02/100 worth... -Mike- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 14:33:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04216; Fri, 5 May 95 14:33:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20869; Fri, 5 May 95 14:25:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20863; Fri, 5 May 95 14:25:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7Up8-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 14:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Noel Hunter Subject: Re: Automatic mailing list? Date: 5 May 1995 19:50:10 GMT Message-Id: <3odvhi$sm7@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> References: <3oc1mo$6l4@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: charnoft@wfu.edu (Forrest T Charnock) wrote: > Is there any way to generate automatic mailing lists using pine? >I mean, someone sends me mail with "add me!" in the body and they are >automatically added to a mail group. This isn't an exact answer, but you could try using the Smartlist package with procmail (our mail delivery agent). If oyu get it to work, let me know :-) It's at: ftp://Harry.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE:/pub/packages/procmail somewhere. It and procmail allow you to handle a lot of mail filtering and auto-processing when mail arrives. -- * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * * email: noel@wfu.edu telephone: (910) 759-5812 fax: (910) 759-6074 * * Noel's Home Page * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 15:31:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06287; Fri, 5 May 95 15:31:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21057; Fri, 5 May 95 15:25:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21051; Fri, 5 May 95 15:25:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7VhM-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 15:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maynor@Ra.MsState.Edu (Natalie Maynor) Subject: "=20" Date: 5 May 1995 09:59:47 -0500 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: People on one of the mailing lists I'm on have been wondering why some people's mail has little "=20"s at the end of each line. I'm positive I've seen an explanation of it in the past, but the only thing I can remember about it now was that pine was somehow implicated in it. If any of you could provide an explanation, I would appreciate it -- mainly because I hate it when I know I've heard the details of something before but can no longer remember even the gist of them. Thanks. -- Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 15:46:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06966; Fri, 5 May 95 15:46:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22409; Fri, 5 May 95 15:37:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22403; Fri, 5 May 95 15:37:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7VuH-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 15:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jean Kent Subject: Distribution list in addressbook problems Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 11:56:48 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have about 230 logins in a distribution list and much to my surprise I've discovered that several people aren't getting the messages I send using this list. Is there a limit to the number of logins that can be placed in a distribution list? Has anyone else experienced this problem? Thanks for any light you can shed on my problem. ****************************************************************************** Jean Kent, Librarian Phone: (206) 528-3835 North Seattle Community College FAX: (206) 527-3614 9600 College Way North Seattle, WA 98103 email: jkent@seaccd.sccd.ctc.edu http://www.sccd.ctc.edu/jkent ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 16:55:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09576; Fri, 5 May 95 16:55:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22730; Fri, 5 May 95 16:47:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22724; Fri, 5 May 95 16:47:45 -0700 Received: from trex (trex.kwantlen.bc.ca) by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA06001; Fri, 5 May 1995 16:47:38 -0700 Received: by trex (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA28586; Fri, 5 May 1995 16:47:38 +0800 Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 16:47:37 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dumaresq X-Sender: david@trex To: Jean Kent Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Distribution list in addressbook problems In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 643 Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 5 May 1995, Jean Kent wrote: > Is there a limit to the number of logins that can be placed in a > distribution list? > What, excuse my ignorance, is a "login in a distribution list"? David. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 17:51:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11853; Fri, 5 May 95 17:51:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23854; Fri, 5 May 95 17:44:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23848; Fri, 5 May 95 17:44:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7XuV-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 17:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmarshall@flash.rdc.ab.ca (John Marshall, Red Deer College, (4) Subject: PMDF and MULTINET as SMTP server. Message-Id: <1995May5.111754@ns.rdc.ab.ca> Date: 5 May 95 11:17:54 MDT Status: O X-Status: I have installed Pine on My PC. I am using a Vax as my mail server. The vax is running PMDF and Multinet. I am using PMDF as my IMAP server. I followed the example in the 4.3 manual for PMDF for installing a SMTP server using MULTINET. The problem is when I send a message with the PC pine the window locks up for about an hour displaying the "Sending mail ...." message. Then when the message finally is sent the window locks up tight. Windows will not even let you close the window. It says "Use Q option". I would if I Could!!. Is there some pmdf.cnf setting to increase the "robustness" of the SMTP server?. Is there something wrong with the pine settings on the PC which causes it to lock up?. The relevant portions of PMDF.cnf looks like so: [] $U%[$L]@MTCP-DAEMON mtcp_local single_sys smtp mx noservice period 2 MTCP-DAEMON From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 18:41:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13755; Fri, 5 May 95 18:41:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25608; Fri, 5 May 95 18:36:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25602; Fri, 5 May 95 18:35:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7YjH-00038XC; Fri, 5 May 95 18:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Filtering and IMAP Date: 5 May 1995 15:41:09 GMT Message-Id: <3odgul$11rn@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Jason Haar wrote: >IMAP allows you to open non-mail folders, so couldn't there be some way of >getting IMAP to edit files like .forward and .procmailrc? No, IMAP does not allow that, in general. >Actually, this reminds me of an earlier post I made asking if IMAP could >be used to store a central .pinerc file on the IMAP server instead of the >client - same principle - just opened up a bit further... Local filters >like procmail would be more efficient than getting the mailer to go >through filter hoops... > >That would be most excellent - but it would be moving away from the >simple model... Away from the simple model, yes, but towards where IMAP4 and IMSP are going in the future. IMSP allows the saving of configuration variables, etc., in the centralized repository. It also allows the IMSP server to tell a client where its IMAP mailbox is, which means that if you want to run twenty IMAP servers, your users don't need to know on which their mailbox resides. For more, check out the Cyrus IMAP4 server page, which has links to the IMAP4, IMAP4 authentication methods, and IMSP RFCs. It's at http://andrew2.andrew.cmu.edu/cyrus/cyrus. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 18:46:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13923; Fri, 5 May 95 18:46:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25662; Fri, 5 May 95 18:39:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25656; Fri, 5 May 95 18:39:33 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id VAA18145; Fri, 5 May 1995 21:39:26 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id VAA15930; Fri, 5 May 1995 21:39:23 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA02133; Fri, 5 May 95 21:37:56 EDT Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 21:37:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: David Dumaresq Cc: Jean Kent , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Distribution list in addressbook problems In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 5 May 1995, David Dumaresq wrote: > On Fri, 5 May 1995, Jean Kent wrote: > > > Is there a limit to the number of logins that can be placed in a > > distribution list? > > > > What, excuse my ignorance, is a "login in a distribution list"? > I would assume she is using a common shortened form for 'login id', which is usually adequate on a single server to get mail to all logins . From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 18:47:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13962; Fri, 5 May 95 18:47:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24844; Fri, 5 May 95 18:44:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24838; Fri, 5 May 95 18:44:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7YtH-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 18:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: forcing mail check Date: 5 May 1995 15:45:49 GMT Message-Id: <3odh7d$qj0@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Brad wrote: =On 2 May 1995, Trey Harris wrote: = => > 3.92 is turning out to be chock-full o' code changes so it is probably => > going to be more Beta-ey than 3.91 when it is first released. (That word I => > just made up is pronounced BAY TAH EEE and it means it probably won't work => > quite right for everyone. :-) = = No, no, no, that's BEE TUH, not BAY TAH! Sheesh, you Americans are =strange. ;) ;) Not all of us. It wasn't me who wrote what you attributed to me above. :) I pronounce it "vita", like Latin for life. And, that "vee-tah", not "vih-tuh" like you strange furuhners pronounce "vitamins". (Just kidding. But that *is* how modern Greek pronounces that letter, Greek lost the "b" phoneme over a millenium ago.) -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 18:53:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14125; Fri, 5 May 95 18:53:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25797; Fri, 5 May 95 18:50:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25791; Fri, 5 May 95 18:50:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7Yy7-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 18:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Penio Penev Subject: Re: "Message to save shrank!" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 20:37:35 GMT Status: O X-Status: brennan@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Joe Brennan) wrote: >User here has got this twice now. What should we be looking for as a >probable cause for a message "shrinking" by 10 bytes? In the few cases it happened to me, this was due to NFS inconsistency problems. On IRIX, it happens from time to time, when a message is delivered to a NFS mounted texfile mailbox, which resides on another machine, and the delivery program is on a differen machine, than the reading one. The problem is that all of a sudden, a virtual page of 4K is being cleaned to 0es. When this happens in the middle of a message, pine gets confused. To check whether this is the case, fire an editor, in which you can see 0es, like emacs, on the NFS client host and see the contents of the message. I bet you you'll see the 0es. On the other hand, emacs running locally on the NFS server sees it right. The quick fix in such situations is to save the damaged message form the local emacs to a file, _before_ quitting pine. Another solution is to start a local (to the NSF server) pine, and visit the mailbox in question, which will acquire the lock from the remote one and prevent damage. Solution? May be an IMAP server, serving local boxes. Hope that helps, -- Penio Penev 1-212-327-7423 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 19:46:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15076; Fri, 5 May 95 19:46:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25556; Fri, 5 May 95 19:44:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25550; Fri, 5 May 95 19:44:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7Zlu-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 19:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: michael@pcnet.com (Intermix Ltd.) Subject: Re: Automated Reply...How to setup? Date: 4 May 1995 19:46:22 -0400 Message-Id: <3obp0e$6pn@pcnet1.pcnet.com> References: Status: O X-Status: STORM (storm@usr2.primenet.com) wrote: : ...is there an easier way to create an : automated reply/mailbot? I couldn't find the FAQ file for this group. I'm desperately seeking help on this issue. The online help files are VERY poorly written and my Internet Service Provider is refusing to help on the grounds that "if we had to help every individual set this up, we wouldn't have time for anything else." Which may be true, but is awfully lame. Hasn't =anyone= out there taken the time to create a simple menu-driven or point-and-click type software for this yet? Thanks to any and all who respond. Mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 20:49:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16121; Fri, 5 May 95 20:49:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26960; Fri, 5 May 95 20:45:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from temasek.teleview.com.sg by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26952; Fri, 5 May 95 20:45:42 -0700 Received: from temasek.teleview.com.sg (temasek.teleview.com.sg [165.21.40.20]) by temasek.teleview.com.sg (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA30497 for ; Sat, 6 May 1995 11:45:40 +0800 Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 11:45:39 +0800 (SST) From: Yee Tian Subject: building pine with mailx To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, I understand that if I did not specify the sendmail agent when I build pine, I will get the default mail agent ie "sendmail". 1) How can I change the sendmail agent to use "mailx" ? 2) In which document can I find this piece of information ? Please help !!!!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 21:05:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16499; Fri, 5 May 95 21:05:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27055; Fri, 5 May 95 20:54:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27049; Fri, 5 May 95 20:54:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7avp-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 20:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: blotorch Subject: Pico configuration question Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 09:00:20 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Can Pico be set up up so that when you save a file by typing ctrl-O, it won't ask for the name of the file to save to, but automatically save to whatever the name is of the file thats open? mackiner@seattleu.edu LLLLLLL L LLLLLLL L L L LLLLLLL L L LLLL L L L L L L L L L LLLLLLL L LLLLLLL From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 21:35:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17350; Fri, 5 May 95 21:35:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26773; Fri, 5 May 95 21:25:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26767; Fri, 5 May 95 21:25:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7bKI-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 21:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: naskad@granite.pste.tec.nh.us (Internet Trainer) Subject: Unsubscribing Date: 5 May 1995 15:42:55 -0400 Message-Id: <3odv3v$2aa@granite.pste.tec.nh.us> Status: O X-Status: I was wondering if the Pine 3.87 is able to read newsgroups ? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 21:44:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17619; Fri, 5 May 95 21:44:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27494; Fri, 5 May 95 21:33:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27488; Fri, 5 May 95 21:33:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7bXY-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 21:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ryan@interlog.com (David Ryan) Subject: Automatic Forwarding Date: 3 May 1995 15:49:00 -0400 Message-Id: <3o8mnc$4o1@gold.interlog.com> Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to have automaitc forwarding in pine? I want to be able to receive mail directed towards one account automatically in another. As if a carbon copy could be forwarded to this secondary account. Can this be done? thanx ;) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 21:59:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18057; Fri, 5 May 95 21:59:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27135; Fri, 5 May 95 21:46:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from peach.epix.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27129; Fri, 5 May 95 21:46:01 -0700 Received: (jgvd@localhost) by peach.epix.net (8.6.10/950112.08ccg) id AAA15489; Sat, 6 May 1995 00:42:39 -0400 Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 00:42:38 -0400 (EDT) From: DearOldDad To: David L Miller Cc: Jonathan and DearOldDad , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Printer Configuration In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 5 May 1995, David L Miller wrote: > No, the print command in Pine is not a screen capture utility. The > problem is that an unfortunately large number of communication packages > have broken or non-existant implementations of ANSI printer controls. > Pine has a very simple procedure for printing. First, it sends an escape > sequence to switch output to the printer, then it sends the text, then it > sends the sequence to switch back to the screen. A properly functioning > ANSI emulation will not affect the display while printing. Hhummmmm ... I think the problem is that you assume we (Edward who asked the original question, and I) have a printer attached to the computer which is running PINE (or that we're running PC PINE). Not so; In my case (and I think also in Ed's) we are on a dial-up connection via modem to an internet provider runing unix (in my case BSD) PINE. I am (as is he) using a 486 desktop PC with a printer attached to LPT1. I am (don't know about him) running under Windows, and using Widows Terminal as the communication package.. I am on a basic ASYNC connection, no graphics. I have my PINE Setup to print to attached-to-ansi. OK, now here's the problem. When I choose Y (prYnt) it in fact DOES scroll my screen, and since I have a fast modem connection (14400 at present, I could go 28800 but my server can't handle it yet) the printout which starts 2 or 3 seconds later, has a lot of missing lines, sometimes even broken right in the middle of a line. A month or so ago, I was helping a friend set up his account on his computer, and he has a slow (2400) modem and his prYnt command worked fine, so I said to myself, 'self, maybe it's the screen scrolling too fast that's causing my problem', and sure enough when I got back and slowed mine down, it worked OK, actually works even better at 1200. Now I don't know if my original reply which called it 'screen capture' was the correct terminology, but in effect that's what it seems to be doing. All I was trying to do was tell ED how to make it work, with what he had available, even though it's sort of a homemade solution. Is there a better way to do it? For example is there some command string I could put under PINE setup outher than the default (lpr) which would direct it to MY printer? I don't think so, but ?? The reason I say I don't think so, is that seems to want a unix command which my PC will not understand running windows or dos. Or would a better communications package (other than windows terminal) help. I have CoMit available, I tried it once, didn't like it, and took it off, but I could reinstall it. Thanks for any help you might give on this. John (aka DearOldDad) > On 5 May 1995, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: > > > > Edward Morykwas (edog@oeonline.com) wrote: > > > > : I'd love to be able to print my incoming e-mail on paper using > > : Pine, but I can't seem to find the right configuration! > > : My system is not exotic: an IBM-compatible 486 with an HP Deskjet > > : 540 printer. Could anyone help me get set up correctly? > > > > Ed: Put your email on-screen and type Y for prYnt. Don't blame me, I > > didna have nothin to do with the command sets, just another frustrated > > user tryin to learn Greek. If it doesn't work, make sure you have your > > printer config set to #1 attached to ansi. If it skips lines (which it > > probably will if ya got one o those high speed video cards and modems) > > set your modem to a lower speed (like 1200 or 2400) because you see the > > pine prYnt command is not really a Print command afterall, but it's > > really a screen capture utility, so ya have to slow your screen down. > > > > Re-reading this, I realize it's probably very confusing, so if you have > > any questions, please feel free to e-mail me and/or follow up to this > > post. The persons who wrote the pine program assumed that we were all > > unix, BYE. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 22:29:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18972; Fri, 5 May 95 22:29:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27596; Fri, 5 May 95 22:19:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27590; Fri, 5 May 95 22:19:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7cD8-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 22:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jroach@ainet.com (Jeri Jo Johnston) Control: cancel Subject: ATTENTION 40SOMETHING & OVER MALE/FEMALE Message-Id: Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 00:33:33 GMT Status: O X-Status: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 23:40:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20605; Fri, 5 May 95 23:40:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28883; Fri, 5 May 95 23:29:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28877; Fri, 5 May 95 23:29:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7dHy-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 23:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tom Subject: Pico configuration question.. Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 21:09:44 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Can Pico be set up up so that when you save a file by typing ctrl-O, it won't ask for the name of the file to save to, but automatically save to whatever the name is of the file thats open? tom@ssc.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 01:35:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23334; Sat, 6 May 95 01:35:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00174; Sat, 6 May 95 01:25:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00168; Sat, 6 May 95 01:25:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7f6d-00038RC; Sat, 6 May 95 01:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tedm@cypress.central.com (Ted Mittelstaedt) Subject: What is a good version of Pine for a Sparc running 4.1.3? Message-Id: Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 04:51:24 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi All, I have just reconfigured my Sparc, and I would like to get a nicer mailer agent. I have heard a bit about Pine before, and I'd like to pull it down and compile it. For SunOS 4.1.3, what would be the most "stable" version. I don't need a lot of fancy features, just a better mailer than /bin/mail. Also, where do I get it and are there any gotchas for SunOS 4.1.3? Thanks, Ted From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 01:55:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23729; Sat, 6 May 95 01:55:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00490; Sat, 6 May 95 01:44:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00484; Sat, 6 May 95 01:44:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7fQi-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 01:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tom Subject: Re: Pico configuration question.. Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 15:07:28 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 5 May 1995, J. Kelly Cunningham wrote: > | > | Can Pico be set up up so that when you save a file by typing > | ctrl-O, it won't ask for the name of the file to save to, but > | automatically save to whatever the name is of the file thats open? > | tom@ssc.com > | > | > > - From the man page: > > > -t Enable "tool" mode. Intended for when pico is used as > the editor within other tools (e.g., Elm, Pnews). Pico > will not prompt for save on exit, and will not rename > the buffer during the "Write Out" command. > This won't work using Pico as a stand-alone editor though; like the man page says, the -t switch works from within another program. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 02:00:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23904; Sat, 6 May 95 02:00:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00495; Sat, 6 May 95 01:49:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00489; Sat, 6 May 95 01:49:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7fXC-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 01:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Subject: Suggestion Re: Address Book Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 22:58:40 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: It'd be neat to be able to search for something in a particular field (e.g. Nickname). That's all. :) ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(,_(,)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>, _>, WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 03:25:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25507; Sat, 6 May 95 03:25:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01463; Sat, 6 May 95 03:14:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01457; Sat, 6 May 95 03:14:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7gsE-00038TC; Sat, 6 May 95 03:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Re: Unix Pine, news and organization header Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 19:00:04 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 5 May 1995, John Davis wrote: > Date: Fri, 5 MAY 1995 18:06:41 GMT > From: John Davis > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Unix Pine, news and organization header > > I have Pine 3.91 installed on a PC running Linux. I am using Pine to read and > post news with a nntp server I have access to. How can I set the Organization: > header that gets posted with the news article? It does not pickup the > organization from my /etc directory and I've also tried a setenv Organization. > What shows up is the organization for my nntp server, which is not what I > want. > [...] This sounds like the very same problem I am having with Pine 3.91 on a Unix system. I put out a sounder on my service provider's newsgroup. Some respondents have suggested fiddling with the shell and local variables, but it doesn't seem to make any difference. I also am hoping someone will have an answer. Paul From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 03:26:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25569; Sat, 6 May 95 03:26:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01315; Sat, 6 May 95 03:15:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from netcom8.netcom.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01309; Sat, 6 May 95 03:15:23 -0700 Received: by netcom8.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id DAA20962; Sat, 6 May 1995 03:14:34 -0700 Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 03:14:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Vic Walker Subject: Re: Latest version of Pine. To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, fbennet@cais.com In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Thanks very much for your help. I was tearing my hair out trying to fix this! Vic Walker ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Vic Walker R.Ph. - Senior Consulting Pharmacist vwalker@netcom.com or vwalker@hw1.cahwnet.gov *** Printed with 100% recycled electrons *** On Fri, 5 May 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > The current Linux port of Pine assumes that the standard spell checker is > /bin/spell and that it works the same as on other Unix versions. To get > ispell to work, see the question about ispell in the Pine FAQ. Here is > an excerpt: > > 2. Pine already checks the SPELL environment variable so you can > create the following script and name it spell. > > > #!/bin/sh > ispell -l | sort | uniq > > To make Ctrl-T in pine use 'ispell' and your '$HOME/.ispell_words' > dictionary: > + make the above script file 'spell' in your home directory > + make it executable: 'chmod u+x spell' > + set the environment variable SPELL: 'setenv SPELL > $HOME/spell' (you may include this command in your .profile, > .cshrc or .login file) > > > Now, when you press Ctrl-T in Pine, you will execute the ispell > program, and it will recognize words stored in the private > dictionary. The screen display will look like pine is using the > standard spell-checking program. Unfortunately, this method does > not allow the user to Insert words into the private dictionary. > However, this might be useful with a central script file (setenv > SPELL ...) and a central private dictionary (ispell -p ...) to > provide a common private dictionary for an entire workgroup. The > manager could add items to the private dictionary; ordinary pine > users would use the private dictionary (Ctrl-T), but they could > not change it. > > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Fri, 5 May 1995, Vic Walker wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 05:23:46 GMT > > From: Vic Walker > > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > Subject: Re: Latest version of Pine. > > > > > > In article <3o5ku7$qr0@news.cais.com> you wrote: > > : I am running Pine v3.89 and am having problems with my spell checker. I > > : just says could not find file... Does anyone have a solution to this?? > > : Also where can I get the latest for Linux and possibly for my pc. > > : > > : Next If anyone has info on software for a POP server that would be great! > > : > > : Thanks. > > > > Let me second fbennet@cais.com's request. I have not been able to get the > > spell checker to work for Pine under Linux either. The version is Pine > > 3.91. The Pico version is 2.5, and I'm using ispell 3.1.08 for the > > speller. When I try to spell check (^T), I get the ispell help screen, > > which suggests that ispell is being called but the correct file name is > > not being passed on. I asked about this a few days ago, but never saw an > > answer. > > > > If the Pine/Pico experts in Washington State (or elsewhere) could help > > us, you'll have at least two grateful users (fbennet and me.) > > > > Vic Walker > > vwalker@netcom.com > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 03:26:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25583; Sat, 6 May 95 03:26:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01294; Sat, 6 May 95 03:14:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01288; Sat, 6 May 95 03:14:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7gqZ-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 03:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: khanafer@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw Subject: Email Change Message-Id: <1995May1.082328.426@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw> Date: Mon, 1 May 95 05:23:26 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi There... I've got a mail fro USA but the Email is change: the Email must be: user@host.edu but it is: user@host.kuniv.edu.kw which is like me...How Come... Any One Can Help Me... Please Email Me... Nasseb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 04:21:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27668; Sat, 6 May 95 04:21:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02104; Sat, 6 May 95 04:08:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.niagara.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02098; Sat, 6 May 95 04:08:24 -0700 Received: by freenet.niagara.com (931110.SGI/930416.SGI.AUTO) for pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA08030; Sat, 6 May 95 07:07:50 -0400 Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 07:07:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrye Leckman-Masson Subject: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: tleckman@freenet.niag.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am a new user on the Internet and am experiencing a few problems. PLEASE HELP!!!! I am enjoying using the Internet enormously but am in need of help. I have sent several messages successfully but a few return with HOST UNKNOWN marked. I check the addresses carefully. I use the Canadian Internet Handbook by Carroll and Broadhead. I have head that I can "get" the LONDON TIMES. How can I receive this? What about other European newspapers, in particular The Guardian(England) ? How to access: Anonymous Gopher I look forward to responses from this posting Thank you in advanve terrye tleckman@freenet.niag.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 04:25:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27729; Sat, 6 May 95 04:25:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02172; Sat, 6 May 95 04:14:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02166; Sat, 6 May 95 04:14:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7hkI-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 04:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sjensen@csulb.edu (Susan Jensen) Subject: virtual reality Date: 6 May 1995 01:00:48 GMT Message-Id: <3oeho0$kp2@garuda.csulb.edu> Status: O X-Status: -- Susan Zoe Jensen Computer Science Engineering, senior CECS405 sjensen@heart.engr.csulb.edu Occupation=programmer From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 04:54:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28444; Sat, 6 May 95 04:54:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02830; Sat, 6 May 95 04:44:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02824; Sat, 6 May 95 04:44:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7iDB-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 04:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J.E. Maxwell" Subject: Parsing error Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 19:39:05 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi pine users, What could be causing the following error condition in PINE 3.90's posting to the newsgroups: ==> [Error posting message: 441 Can't parse "Date" header] <== !~~~~~~~~!~~~~~~~~!~~~~~~~~!~~~~~~~~!~~~~~~~~!~~~~~~~~!~~~~~~~~!~~~~~~! ! J.E. Maxwell | Tel. (916) 752-3164 ! ! Med. Biol. Chem. Dept. | (916) 427-9013 ! ! Univ. of California - Davis | FAX (916) 752-3516 ! ! Davis CA 95616 |e-mail maxwell@krebs.ucdavis.edu ! !========!========!========!========!========!========!========!======! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 05:21:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29083; Sat, 6 May 95 05:21:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02748; Sat, 6 May 95 05:11:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02742; Sat, 6 May 95 05:11:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7icf-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 05:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ye11@cornell.edu (Eugene Epshteyn) Subject: Re: Pine under linux and DOS - lockfiles? Date: 3 May 1995 19:53:12 GMT Message-Id: <3o8mv8$gt6@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> References: <3o4k1e$do2@ns2.via.at> Status: O X-Status: Christian Fischer (ChFi@via.at) wrote: : I would like to use pine under linux and under DOS, using the same local : message folders under both OS. I have set up pine under linux to access the : folders on my DOS-partition. Now, the problem is that every time pine accesses : a folder on this partition it tries to create a lockfile by appending .lock to : the folder name. Since this is not possible on a DOS partition, pine just hangs : for a few minutes and then gives a message like "cannot create lockfile ...". Get umsdos package for linux and mount your dos partition as umsdos. Linux will treat it as a regular unix partition (long file names, etc.) DOS, on the other hand, will see the same file names, if they confirm to DOS file system standards. If they don't, then such filenames will be changed. Actual file names are kept in a separate file. I don't guarantee that this'll work, but if you do this, linux will be able to create *.lock files, and DOS should see all your folders without any problems. Hope this helped Eugene -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~ Eugene (Yevgeniy) Epshteyn ~~ ~~ ye11@cornell.edu ~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 07:39:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01208; Sat, 6 May 95 07:39:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04689; Sat, 6 May 95 07:30:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04680; Sat, 6 May 95 07:30:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7kpL-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 07:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: ---->> Non- US-ASCII character sets Date: 4 May 1995 19:31:46 GMT Message-Id: <3oba32$9tn@news.ysu.edu> References: Here's a little test string of some accented characters: >=E9=E8=A7=BB=EC=EB=EA=E8=E7=E6=E4=F3=E1=F1=F7re=F6=E3=F8=FA=EE=ED > >If anyone receives these as a set of characters with accents My non-MIME-aware newsreader lets me know these are accented characters. If I mail myself this message from the mailer which does not pass 8-bit characters and view it with an ISO 8859-1 xterm running Pine, I see... , ` ` " ^ ` " , , ~ " ~ ' ^ , e e section-sign >> i e e e c ae a o a n divide r e o a o-slash u i i ' ^^^ These two characters did not appear as 8-bit accented characters. I hope that's what you were intending... -- Barry Bouwsma, will crash computers for chocolate and dental care Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) LOAD "SENDMAIL",8,1 driving a 300 baud Trabant on the Datenautobahn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 08:14:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01820; Sat, 6 May 95 08:14:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04293; Sat, 6 May 95 08:11:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04287; Sat, 6 May 95 08:11:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7lRE-00038TC; Sat, 6 May 95 08:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Douglas Bates Subject: Handling digests Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 14:41:44 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I hope this isn't in the FAQ ... Is there a way in pine of "undigesting" mail received in digest form? For example, rmail in GNU emacs offers an undigest command. View-mail binds this function to the '@' key to indicate an exploding digest, as I recall. Are there similar facilities in pine? I wasn't able to locate anything on digests in the help files. Douglas Bates bates@stat.wisc.edu Statistics Department 608/262-2598 University of Wisconsin - Madison http://www.stat.wisc.edu/~bates/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 08:19:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01917; Sat, 6 May 95 08:19:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04342; Sat, 6 May 95 08:15:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04330; Sat, 6 May 95 08:15:02 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11357; Sat, 6 May 95 08:14:58 -0700 Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 08:14:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: DearOldDad Cc: David L Miller , Jonathan and DearOldDad , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Printer Configuration In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: John, David was not assuming that your printer was attached to the machine running Pine. In fact, the whole purpose of "attached-to-ansi" mode is to deal with exactly the hardware configuration you describe; however, you must: o have a communication program on the PC that understands ansi printer escape sequences. o pay careful attention to flow-control issues. There's no screen capture involved, and if there was, that would be a function of your comm program rather than Pine. If, when you print from Pine using "attached-to-ansi" and you see the text on your PC screen, you assuredly do *not* have a communications program that fully understands ansi printer escapes. If some things print, but you lose data, especially on longer messages, that almost always means there is a flow-control problem somewhere. See the Pine FAQ for more details on printing problems... (Send a msg to pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu to get a copy.) -teg On Sat, 6 May 1995, DearOldDad wrote: > On Fri, 5 May 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > No, the print command in Pine is not a screen capture utility. The > > problem is that an unfortunately large number of communication packages > > have broken or non-existant implementations of ANSI printer controls. > > Pine has a very simple procedure for printing. First, it sends an escape > > sequence to switch output to the printer, then it sends the text, then it > > sends the sequence to switch back to the screen. A properly functioning > > ANSI emulation will not affect the display while printing. > > Hhummmmm ... I think the problem is that you assume we (Edward who asked > the original question, and I) have a printer attached to the computer > which is running PINE (or that we're running PC PINE). Not so; In my case > (and I think also in Ed's) we are on a dial-up connection via modem to an > internet provider runing unix (in my case BSD) PINE. I am (as is he) > using a 486 desktop PC with a printer attached to LPT1. I am (don't know > about him) running under Windows, and using Widows Terminal as the > communication package.. I am on a basic ASYNC connection, no graphics. I > have my PINE Setup to print to attached-to-ansi. > > OK, now here's the problem. When I choose Y (prYnt) it in fact DOES > scroll my screen, and since I have a fast modem connection (14400 at > present, I could go 28800 but my server can't handle it yet) the printout > which starts 2 or 3 seconds later, has a lot of missing lines, sometimes > even broken right in the middle of a line. > > A month or so ago, I was helping a friend set up his account on his > computer, and he has a slow (2400) modem and his prYnt command worked > fine, so I said to myself, 'self, maybe it's the screen scrolling too > fast that's causing my problem', and sure enough when I got back and > slowed mine down, it worked OK, actually works even better at 1200. Now > I don't know if my original reply which called it 'screen capture' was > the correct terminology, but in effect that's what it seems to be doing. > > All I was trying to do was tell ED how to make it work, with what he had > available, even though it's sort of a homemade solution. > > Is there a better way to do it? For example is there some command string > I could put under PINE setup outher than the default (lpr) which would > direct it to MY printer? I don't think so, but ?? The reason I say I > don't think so, is that seems to want a unix command which my PC will not > understand running windows or dos. Or would a better communications > package (other than windows terminal) help. I have CoMit available, I > tried it once, didn't like it, and took it off, but I could reinstall it. > > Thanks for any help you might give on this. > > John (aka DearOldDad) > > > On 5 May 1995, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: > > > > > > Edward Morykwas (edog@oeonline.com) wrote: > > > > > > : I'd love to be able to print my incoming e-mail on paper using > > > : Pine, but I can't seem to find the right configuration! > > > : My system is not exotic: an IBM-compatible 486 with an HP Deskjet > > > : 540 printer. Could anyone help me get set up correctly? > > > > > > Ed: Put your email on-screen and type Y for prYnt. Don't blame me, I > > > didna have nothin to do with the command sets, just another frustrated > > > user tryin to learn Greek. If it doesn't work, make sure you have your > > > printer config set to #1 attached to ansi. If it skips lines (which it > > > probably will if ya got one o those high speed video cards and modems) > > > set your modem to a lower speed (like 1200 or 2400) because you see the > > > pine prYnt command is not really a Print command afterall, but it's > > > really a screen capture utility, so ya have to slow your screen down. > > > > > > Re-reading this, I realize it's probably very confusing, so if you have > > > any questions, please feel free to e-mail me and/or follow up to this > > > post. The persons who wrote the pine program assumed that we were all > > > unix, BYE. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 08:39:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02216; Sat, 6 May 95 08:39:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05404; Sat, 6 May 95 08:36:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05398; Sat, 6 May 95 08:36:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7lqn-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 08:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gpl@gauss.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: Unix pine ignoreing ^M ? Date: 6 May 1995 10:53:47 -0400 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to get Unix pine to ignore ^M in a folder file? Specifically, I have both Linux & Microsoft Windows on my PC. In windows, I have a program called Eudora that does pop-mail. Since I can mount the dos partition under linux, I would like to just have a symbolic link to the file Eudora uses. When I try this, and use pine to access the link as a folder, it says there is 1 message in the folder. When I try to look at it, it says that it can't find "APPLICATION/OCTET-STREAM". If I copy the dos file to linux and strip out the ^M s from it, it will then read the file just fine. Is there anything I can do? I have tried ELM on the link file, and it works fine (though I like Pine much better and would prefer to find some solution using it.) I hope this is clear :-) Thanks. Jerry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 08:56:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02489; Sat, 6 May 95 08:56:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04673; Sat, 6 May 95 08:53:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from balder.ssds.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04667; Sat, 6 May 95 08:53:24 -0700 Received: (from mail@localhost) by balder.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) id JAA15790 for ; Sat, 6 May 1995 09:51:21 -0600 Received: from denver(134.127.16.1) by balder via smap (V1.3) id sma015786; Sat May 6 09:51:01 1995 Received: from chicago.ssds.com (chicago.ssds.com [134.127.26.1]) by denver.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) with SMTP id JAA01384 for ; Sat, 6 May 1995 09:51:00 -0600 Received: by chicago.ssds.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26572; Sat, 6 May 1995 10:50:56 -0500 Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 10:50:55 -0500 (CDT) From: James Weaver - Chicago X-Sender: jew@chicago To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Please take me off pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT Status: O X-Status: How do I get off pine-info? I've tried sending mail to Majordomo, but no success. See below. Thanks ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 5 May 95 16:31:33 -0700 From: Majordomo@cac.washington.edu To: jew@ssds.com Subject: Majordomo results >>>> unsubscribe pine-info **** No matches found for 'James Weaver - Chicago ' >>>> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 09:29:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03217; Sat, 6 May 95 09:29:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05015; Sat, 6 May 95 09:26:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05009; Sat, 6 May 95 09:26:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7mbK-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 09:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: IMAP daemon as Mail-user agent Date: 6 May 1995 03:59:02 GMT Message-Id: <3oes66$1bd6@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3o2v9u$176c@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3o5rcv$7iq@dove.nist.gov> Status: O X-Status: In article <3o5rcv$7iq@dove.nist.gov>, Robert Bagwill wrote: >You don't have to install procmail as a delivery-time filter. Using the >-m flag, users can invoke it themselves, or it can be invoked on their >behalf by a script. Of course, I don't know what your configuration is, >so I don't know if that's feasible for you. The problem is not that procmail does its filtering at delivery-time (and .forward files are not available) but rather that home directories are not available to the mail server and /var/spool/mail is not available to the login machines. Maybe there's some way to do it, but the ways I can think of are pretty hairy and would require sysadmin intervention whenever the user wants to change one of his or her filtering rules--not feasible with 20,000 users! -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 09:50:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03672; Sat, 6 May 95 09:50:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06213; Sat, 6 May 95 09:45:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06207; Sat, 6 May 95 09:45:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7mvL-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 09:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Problem with domain name when sending mail Date: 6 May 1995 04:02:35 GMT Message-Id: <3oescr$u6d@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3ob6v7$5tq@hal.cs.depaul.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <3ob6v7$5tq@hal.cs.depaul.edu>, Matthew Cravit wrote: >I am having a problem with Pine 3.90 on Solaris for x86 version 2.4. >When I send mail to a local user (ie put only the username in the to: >field), pine drops the hostname from the domain. Are you sure it's Pine and not sendmail playing with rewrite rules? Sounds to me like a common thing for sendmail to do, especially when you have a centralized mail hub available at the domain level. Read /etc/sendmail.cf to see if that's what it is doing. (I'm not going to tell you which rulesets to look at, because anybody who claims to know the function of rulesets greater than 4 is lying, since they have no mandatory function.) -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 09:59:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03882; Sat, 6 May 95 09:59:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05290; Sat, 6 May 95 09:56:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05284; Sat, 6 May 95 09:56:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7n65-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 09:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: marcs@alive.ampr.ab.ca (Marc Slemko) Subject: bug in pine screen display? Date: 5 May 1995 22:14:34 -0600 Message-Id: <3oet3a$k9e@alive.ampr.ab.ca> Status: O X-Status: I have noticed that when using pine (3.90 and 3.91), on occasion text is in inverse video when it shouldn't be. It happens extremely rarely, and refreshing the screen clears it. I have noticed it both on Linux and logged into two different AIX boxes. If I go to enter a message using the built in editor, then enter characters on the 18th line of the message which correspond to any or all characters of the '----- Message Text -----' screen header, then do a ^Y then a ^V, those characters in the 18th line of the message that do correspond to '----- Message Text -----' will be printed in inverse video. If you are not clear about what I mean then: - start composing a message and move to the first line of body - hit enter 17 times - enter '----- Message Text -----' - hit ^Y - hit ^V The '----- Message Text -----' in the body should be in inverse video. I only noticed it because my signature starts with an '-- ' and it happened to be on that line when I went to the previous page then back to that page. Has anyone else seen this behavior? It's not a big problem since it doesn't really affect much, but if an easy fix can be made perhaps it should. -- Marc Slemko 1:342/1003@fidonet marcs@alive.ampr.ab.ca marcs@alive.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 11:16:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05206; Sat, 6 May 95 11:16:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07215; Sat, 6 May 95 11:11:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07209; Sat, 6 May 95 11:11:37 -0700 Received: from trex (trex.kwantlen.bc.ca) by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA09136; Sat, 6 May 1995 11:11:28 -0700 Received: from [134.87.143.13] by trex (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA12135; Sat, 6 May 1995 11:11:26 +0800 Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 12:13:35 -0900 (PDT) From: David Dumaresq To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: What is a good version of Pine for a Sparc running 4.1.3? X-Sender: david@wizard In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 890 Status: O X-Status: We've been running Pine 3.90 for SunOS 4.1.3, and 4.1.1, 4.1.2, Sol 2.3 on Sparcs with good results. We've just moved up to 3.91 which has improved the speed for starting Pine and are waiting (along with the masses) for Pine 3.92. No gotchas to mention, maybe just be aware when you're compiling that debug mode is on by default. You may want to turn this off eventually because it tends to create debug files. David. On Sat, 6 May 1995, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Hi All, > I have just reconfigured my Sparc, and I would like to get a nicer > mailer agent. I have heard a bit about Pine before, and I'd like to > pull it down and compile it. For SunOS 4.1.3, what would be the most > "stable" version. I don't need a lot of fancy features, just a better > mailer than /bin/mail. Also, where do I get it and are there any gotchas > for SunOS 4.1.3? > > Thanks, > Ted > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 11:54:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05937; Sat, 6 May 95 11:54:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07727; Sat, 6 May 95 11:51:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07721; Sat, 6 May 95 11:51:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7os7-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 11:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matthew Bastin Subject: Catch Up For Newsgroups Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 10:28:59 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Does anybody know if there's a way to make PINE performa a "catch up" type function on news groups? That is, automatically delete say all messages before a certain date (and keep the ongoing threads if possible) in a particular newsgroup. Obviously this is useful if the user has been away for a while or hasn't read news for a few days. Thanks. __________________________Matthew Bastin_________________________ | matthewb@bom.gov.au | | Bureau Of Meteorology | | Sydney N.S.W. | | (02) 269 8555 | |_________________________A U S T R A L I A_______________________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 15:19:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09531; Sat, 6 May 95 15:19:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08314; Sat, 6 May 95 15:15:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08308; Sat, 6 May 95 15:15:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7s7P-00038RC; Sat, 6 May 95 15:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lmiller@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx (Larry Miller [DT]) Subject: Re: "=20" Date: 5 May 1995 12:01:04 -0600 Message-Id: <3odp50$fs6@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx> References: Status: O X-Status: Natalie Maynor (maynor@Ra.MsState.Edu) wrote: > People on one of the mailing lists I'm on have been wondering why some > people's mail has little "=20"s at the end of each line. I'm positive > I've seen an explanation of it in the past, but the only thing I can > remember about it now was that pine was somehow implicated in it. If > any of you could provide an explanation, I would appreciate it -- mainly I believe pine encodes certain characters in messages that contain non-standard ascii. If this thusly-encoded message is sent to a mailer which doesn't know how to interpret them, it sends them on literally, and they show up in the encoded format. Is this list in a language other than English? Larry Miller Administrador de Redes / Network Administrator Centro de Investigaciones Biologicas del Noroeste, La Paz, BCS Mexico lmiller@cibnor.conacyt.mx From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 15:24:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09656; Sat, 6 May 95 15:24:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10280; Sat, 6 May 95 15:22:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10274; Sat, 6 May 95 15:22:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7sC7-00038RC; Sat, 6 May 95 15:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: IMAP daemon as Mail-user agent Date: 6 May 1995 15:48:39 GMT Message-Id: <3og5on$1b2s@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3o2v9u$176c@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3o5rcv$7iq@dove.nist.gov> <3oes66$1bd6@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3oeuev$1r5o@news.doit.wisc.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <3oeuev$1r5o@news.doit.wisc.edu>, Mumit Khan wrote: >In article <3oes66$1bd6@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, >Trey Harris wrote: >>The problem is not that procmail does its filtering at delivery-time (and >>.forward files are not available) but rather that home directories are >>not available to the mail server and /var/spool/mail is not available to >>the login machines. Maybe there's some way to do it, but the ways I can >>think of are pretty hairy and would require sysadmin intervention >>whenever the user wants to change one of his or her filtering rules--not >>feasible with 20,000 users! >Do you have a central mail server with a /var/spool/mail where ALL the >mail gets delivered? If this spool directory is not available on the >clients, then how do the user read their email? Obviously not on the mail >server, since you say that the home directories are not available there. >(Am I reading your message completely wrong here?) Um...we were talking about IMAP, right? How else? That's the real reason to use IMAP, to offload all the mail access services from your login machine to your IMAP server. And frankly, I don't especially want lots of procmail stuff, etc., running on that server, since it's running fairly smoothly and sometimes jerkily with just sendmail and imapd running. >Our setup is a bit weird -- we have machines in 2 different locations with >a rather reasonably large latency link in between (and can be flaky at >times), so mounting /var/spool/mail is out. We've chosen, rather, to route >all incoming messages via a set of MX'd central mail servers (via sendmail >alias map) to the machine that serves user's home directory and then have >procmail deliver it locally to their home directories. I'm glad it works for you, but it sounds like a nightmare when I apply it to my site, which has 20,000 users currently (but a growth rate of 200% per year!). Considering that all of my machines are in one machine room, connected by a high-speed fiber net, I don't see the latency concerns as a problem. I saw source somewhere for a rewrite of /bin/mail that, when used for delivery, checked to see if it was attempting to deliver over an NFS link, and if so, would abort the save and deliver the mail message to the NFS server via SMTP. Nifty. (I've also heard that that's what SPARCs do by default, but I'm unable to verify that.) -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 15:47:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10271; Sat, 6 May 95 15:47:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08628; Sat, 6 May 95 15:42:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08622; Sat, 6 May 95 15:42:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7sVK-00038RC; Sat, 6 May 95 15:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maynor@Ra.MsState.Edu (Natalie Maynor) Subject: Re: "=20" Date: 6 May 1995 07:01:21 -0500 Message-Id: References: <3odp50$fs6@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx> Status: O X-Status: lmiller@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx (Larry Miller [DT]) writes: >I believe pine encodes certain characters in messages that contain >non-standard ascii. If this thusly-encoded message is sent to a >mailer which doesn't know how to interpret them, it sends them on >literally, and they show up in the encoded format. Is this list in a >language other than English? It's in English. But the postings might include odd characters at times. I'll watch for that. Thanks for the response. -- Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 16:03:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10594; Sat, 6 May 95 16:03:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10787; Sat, 6 May 95 16:01:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10781; Sat, 6 May 95 16:01:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7smZ-00038RC; Sat, 6 May 95 15:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mcjones@cais2.cais.com (Mark Jones) Subject: Re: Blind carbon copy ("Bcc:") line in Pine Date: 6 May 1995 16:51:16 GMT Message-Id: <3og9e4$qhf@news.cais.com> References: <3ofvl0$335@news.panix.com> Status: O X-Status: Mark Swearingen (mark@ephesus.com) wrote: : When I compose a message in Pine, there is no Blind carbon copy ("Bcc:") line. : Is there a configuration option I can set to make this available? With the cursor in the header area, hit ^R for "RICH Header". (^R with the cursor located in the body of the message will ask for a file to READ into the message). -- It's... _ /| + MARK C. JONES a.k.a. mcjones@cais.com + + + + THE TOWN BULLY! \'o.0' + mcjones@capaccess.org + + quoth DAN QUAYLE: + Be afraid... -=(___)=- + "If we do not succeed, then we run the risk + Be VERY afraid... U AACK! + of failure" + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 16:40:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11362; Sat, 6 May 95 16:40:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09216; Sat, 6 May 95 16:37:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09210; Sat, 6 May 95 16:37:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7tMN-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 16:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Daniel Swim Subject: Two questions. Message-Id: Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 10:00:42 -0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have two questions: 1. In pine, when printing, how do I get the burst page shut off? 2. When viewing a newsgroup in pine hwo do you delete multiple messages instead of hitting the d key many times over? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Daniel Swim Telephone: (902) 893-6642 (ext 1480) Plant Industry Branch Fax: (902) 893-0244 N.S. Dept. of Agriculture and Marketing Email: DS@gusws.nsac.ns.ca Truro, Nova Scotia, Canada If I only had a 400 4/233 model AXP. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 17:03:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11845; Sat, 6 May 95 17:03:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11479; Sat, 6 May 95 17:01:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11473; Sat, 6 May 95 17:01:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7tid-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 16:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mark@ephesus.com (Mark Swearingen) Subject: Blind carbon copy ("Bcc:") line in Pine Date: 6 May 1995 14:04:16 GMT Message-Id: <3ofvl0$335@news.panix.com> Status: O X-Status: When I compose a message in Pine, there is no Blind carbon copy ("Bcc:") line. Is there a configuration option I can set to make this available? Thanks, --- Mark Swearingen / NYC From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 17:04:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11952; Sat, 6 May 95 17:04:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09466; Sat, 6 May 95 17:01:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09460; Sat, 6 May 95 17:01:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7tm7-00038RC; Sat, 6 May 95 17:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mcjones@cais2.cais.com (Mark Jones) Subject: Get Rid of Headers? Date: 6 May 1995 16:44:20 GMT Message-Id: <3og914$q4s@news.cais.com> Status: O X-Status: I often export e-mail items to files in my home directory. However, when I do so, there's always 1 or 2 screenfulls of header info that comes along with it, which I then have to edit out. Is there any way to supress these headers, in whole or in part, in order to eliminate the step of editing them out? Thanks for any help! -- It's... _ /| + MARK C. JONES a.k.a. mcjones@cais.com + + + + THE TOWN BULLY! \'o.0' + mcjones@capaccess.org + + quoth DAN QUAYLE: + Be afraid... -=(___)=- + "If we do not succeed, then we run the risk + Be VERY afraid... U AACK! + of failure" + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 17:36:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12576; Sat, 6 May 95 17:36:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11864; Sat, 6 May 95 17:31:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11858; Sat, 6 May 95 17:31:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7uFR-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 17:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: riptide@one.net (nobody) Subject: Sorting: address --> folder Date: 6 May 1995 21:58:37 GMT Message-Id: <3ogred$v2@mail.one.net> Status: O X-Status: Basically, what I'd like to do is have it so that if a message from a specific address(es) arrives in my mailbox, I can file it into a corresponding folder. For instance, I want to get back on a specific mailing list, but it sends over 20 messages an hour. Many times I don't have the patience or the ability to find my other messages mixed in with the mailing list messages. Can I set Pine up to do this? If there is another mail util I can use to do this or an add on to Pine, please let me know as well. Thanks! JR From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 17:52:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12935; Sat, 6 May 95 17:52:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09930; Sat, 6 May 95 17:49:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Simpsons.CC.UH.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09924; Sat, 6 May 95 17:49:32 -0700 Received: from lisa.cc.uh.edu by simpsons.cc.uh.edu (NX5.67d/NX3.0M) id AA10096; Sat, 6 May 95 19:49:31 -0500 Received: by lisa.cc.uh.edu (NX5.67d/NX3.0X) id AA04527; Sat, 6 May 95 19:49:30 -0500 Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 19:47:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Hsu Subject: Secret of Pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi... Could someone send me a copy of "Secret of Pine"? My email address is : opto3p@bart.cc.uh.edu Thanks Tony From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 18:56:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13960; Sat, 6 May 95 18:56:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10489; Sat, 6 May 95 18:51:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10483; Sat, 6 May 95 18:51:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7vIk-00038sC; Sat, 6 May 95 18:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ken@clark.net (Ken Goldstraw) Subject: PGP and pine? Date: 7 May 1995 01:19:11 GMT Message-Id: <3oh76f$l9n@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Another user was telling me that he read a message explaining that you could use PGP in Pine via script files. Anyone know how this is done? Ken -- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQBtAy+sGjQAAAEDALoUwNwD/s5YZXECq6PbWJg09MEvltSHaCLG9PFUC5Kt639U AZwhVDmW37KG+v08F6wbDrrQoQqwLBgAcFm5NNN/TzQKf9Xhw26Xh423jtKMtJKQ b2b3YkkfY8Zf+Zit9QAFEbQdS2VuIEdvbGRzdHJhdyA8a2VuQGNsYXJrLm5ldD4= =CvrA -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 19:02:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14123; Sat, 6 May 95 19:02:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12862; Sat, 6 May 95 18:57:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12856; Sat, 6 May 95 18:57:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7vVo-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 18:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: pine: general-use FAQ or DOCS?? Date: 6 May 1995 16:04:42 GMT Message-Id: <3og6mq$vve@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3oah3e$d2t@grape.epix.net> Status: O X-Status: In article , Andrew Le wrote: >I would like to know how to set up an alias so that I can receive >mail using a different name... > >For example, say I have an account with username "joe" but everyone >else knows me as "joe1." > >How would I set up an alias using pine so that everyone who sends >mail to "joe1" will have their mail delivered to "joe"? Aliases (or "nicknames" or "addressbooks") are not what you want in this case. You cannot change the address by which you can receive mail without the assistance of a system administrator. Let me explain the reasons for this. Suppose your boss's username is "boss". If you can make it so that all mail that's destined for "joe1" will be rerouted to "joe", then it stands to reason that you could also make it so that all mail to "boss" goes to "joe". A system that allowed you to divert anyone else's email to you at any time would not be a very good one! This doesn't mean that there's nothing that you can do. You didn't say in the above why everyone knows you as joe1. Perhaps you have two accounts, one named joe and another older one named joe1? If so, create a file called ".forward" in joe1's home directory, with the single line "joe". Even if there isn't a joe1 account extant, there is another facility for getting mail addressed to another name. Such system-wide or recipient-end aliasing is very common on the Internet. Contact your system administrator; he or she should know what to do. If you are the system administrator for your site, you'll need to take the following steps: 1. Become root. 2. Open /usr/lib/aliases (the filename may slightly differ on some systems, a find /usr -name aliases -print should find it) in your favorite text editor. 3. At the bottom of the file (or wherever convenient) add the line: joe1: joe (That's joe1, colon, tab, joe.) 4. Save and quit your editor, and run "sendmail -bi". 5. Now all mail directed to joe1 will go to joe instead. If you are using a mail-transport agent other than sendmail, the steps may differ. In Sendmail V8, you can also set up an alias such that every time someone uses it, they get a message about "joe" being the new and preferred address and to please use that one in the future. Consult your documentation for details. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 19:57:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15118; Sat, 6 May 95 19:57:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11053; Sat, 6 May 95 19:52:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11047; Sat, 6 May 95 19:52:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7wN0-00038RC; Sat, 6 May 95 19:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: khan@xraylith.wisc.edu (Mumit Khan) Subject: Re: IMAP daemon as Mail-user agent Date: 6 May 1995 04:37:51 GMT Message-Id: <3oeuev$1r5o@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <3o2v9u$176c@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3o5rcv$7iq@dove.nist.gov> <3oes66$1bd6@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <3oes66$1bd6@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, Trey Harris wrote: > >The problem is not that procmail does its filtering at delivery-time (and >.forward files are not available) but rather that home directories are >not available to the mail server and /var/spool/mail is not available to >the login machines. Maybe there's some way to do it, but the ways I can >think of are pretty hairy and would require sysadmin intervention >whenever the user wants to change one of his or her filtering rules--not >feasible with 20,000 users! > Do you have a central mail server with a /var/spool/mail where ALL the mail gets delivered? If this spool directory is not available on the clients, then how do the user read their email? Obviously not on the mail server, since you say that the home directories are not available there. (Am I reading your message completely wrong here?) Our setup is a bit weird -- we have machines in 2 different locations with a rather reasonably large latency link in between (and can be flaky at times), so mounting /var/spool/mail is out. We've chosen, rather, to route all incoming messages via a set of MX'd central mail servers (via sendmail alias map) to the machine that serves user's home directory and then have procmail deliver it locally to their home directories. No NFS locking nightmares and the users have no problem running procmail or other filtering agents (such as slocal) via their .forward entries after the local delivery is done. It turned out to be extremely stable and scalable as we add/remove users and add/remove file servers where users are served from. We simply don't have to deal with /var/spool/mail (or /var/mail) anymore and it's a good thing! There were about a list of dozen or so gotchas we had to deal with, but it was easy and done over a weekend. For sites that don't allow .forward (for security reasons or what not), user's can simply write procmail wrappers that wait for mail arrival to their MAILBOX and deal with it accordingly (either wake up every so often or work like biff). mumit -- khan@xraylith.wisc.edu http://www.xraylith.wisc.edu/~khan/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 00:25:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19803; Sun, 7 May 95 00:25:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16480; Sun, 7 May 95 00:19:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16474; Sun, 7 May 95 00:19:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s80XP-00038SC; Sun, 7 May 95 00:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mark@ephesus.com (Mark Swearingen) Subject: Change return address ("From:") in Pine Date: 6 May 1995 13:05:08 GMT Message-Id: <3ofs65$fp@news.panix.com> Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to change the return address ("From:" line) in a mail message created in Pine? I see the following parameters in .pinerc for changing the personal name and the domain name, but nothing for changing the user name: # Over-rides your full name from Unix password file. Required for PC-Pine. personal-name= # Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail. user-domain= Thanks for any help you can offer, --- Mark Swearingen / NYC From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 01:31:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21520; Sun, 7 May 95 01:31:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17419; Sun, 7 May 95 01:27:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17413; Sun, 7 May 95 01:27:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s81N0-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 01:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: markb@grumpy.rc.arizona.edu (Mark Borgstrom) Subject: Convex: "Error resetting signals: Interrupted system call" Date: 3 May 1995 22:57:45 GMT Message-Id: <3o91p9$so4@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Status: O X-Status: I'm having a bit of a problem running Pine 3.91 on a Convex C240 version 11.0 of the OS. Everything seems to work correctly except when I exit Pine it gives the message: Error resetting signals: Interrupted system call It gives this message for debug level <7, but not for debug level >=7. This message is generated in the signals.c code in the pine directory, but its not obvious to me what the debug level has to do with generating this message. Has anyone run into this problem before? Thanks! Mark Borgstrom The University of Arizona From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 01:46:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21958; Sun, 7 May 95 01:46:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14346; Sun, 7 May 95 01:42:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14340; Sun, 7 May 95 01:42:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s81uL-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 01:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (Forrest Gump) Subject: Re: "Message to save shrank!" Date: 1 May 1995 23:01:10 GMT Message-Id: <3o3p7m$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: This means the user was using Pine and at the same time another POP e-mail s/w (like Eudora) which made a mailcheck and downloaded the mail. I have had users recieve messages saying INBOX shrank to 0bytes. Make sure they use one MUA to read mail at any given time. Joe Brennan writes in comp.mail.pine: + User here has got this twice now. What should we be looking for as a + probable cause for a message "shrinking" by 10 bytes? Brief details + attached... I don't want to post someone else's whole debug file + publicly. + Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems + Columbia University in the City of New York + brennan@columbia.edu + ----- + Error displayed by pine: + [Message to save shrank! (#5: 2316 --> 2306)] + ----- + Section of .pine-debug: + q_status_message, Count 1, "Message to save shrank! (#5: 2316 --> 2306)" + BOTCH: 5 save shrank mc->size == 2316, string == 2306 + FAILED save of msg-id <> + ----- + Comes from this place in mailcmd.c: + /* + * What's really needed is a way to pipe this crap right into + * context_append... + */ + /* set up string driver */ + #ifdef DOS + . . .[skip ahead]. . . + #else + if((mlen = strlen((char *)so_text(so))) < message->rfc822_size){ + q_status_message3(1, 2, 4, + "\007Message to save shrank! (#%ld: %ld --> %ld)", + (void *)message->msgno, (void *)message->rfc822_size, + (void *)mlen); + dprint(1, (debugfile, + "BOTCH: %ld save shrank mc->size == %ld, string == %ld\n", + message->msgno, message->rfc822_size, mlen)); + so_give(&so); + return(0); -- Shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu | Mac*Chat ListOwner | http://monroe.temple.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 03:27:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23935; Sun, 7 May 95 03:27:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18769; Sun, 7 May 95 03:22:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18763; Sun, 7 May 95 03:22:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s83SB-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 03:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: franklin@millenium.texas.net (Frank Schmidt) Subject: Re: how to define username ??? Date: 7 May 1995 02:50:18 GMT Message-Id: <3ohcha$nhl@empire.texas.net> References: Status: O X-Status: ecramer (root@luna.nl) wrote: : I recently started using pine on Linux 1.2.1. Altough I like it, : there is one thing I can't figure out. : How to change the left-hand side from my header. : It's possible to set another domainname, so why isn't it possible : to set another username. : The only solution I could find is to add a user with the desired : username to my system and start pine beeing that user. : Can anybody help me :-( I am posting this follow-up to keep this question around. I too would like the answer. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 04:01:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24618; Sun, 7 May 95 04:01:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15522; Sun, 7 May 95 03:57:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15516; Sun, 7 May 95 03:57:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s840d-00038SC; Sun, 7 May 95 03:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: odin@gate.net (PNEWS) Subject: Re: "=20" Date: 7 May 1995 09:57:06 GMT Message-Id: <3oi5hi$2152@news.gate.net> References: <3odp50$fs6@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx> Status: O X-Status: Natalie Maynor (maynor@Ra.MsState.Edu) wrote: : lmiller@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx (Larry Miller [DT]) writes: : >I believe pine encodes certain characters in messages that contain : >non-standard ascii. If this thusly-encoded message is sent to a : >mailer which doesn't know how to interpret them, it sends them on : >literally, and they show up in the encoded format. Is this list in a : >language other than English? : It's in English. But the postings might include odd characters at : times. I'll watch for that. Thanks for the response. : -- Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) It occurs with MIME incompatability, especially on lists. How can you include a header to avoid this from happening? I've asked this question before and apparently NO ONE can provide an adequate answer.. -Hank- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 04:34:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25725; Sun, 7 May 95 04:34:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19709; Sun, 7 May 95 04:28:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19703; Sun, 7 May 95 04:28:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s84Sb-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 04:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin McElearney Subject: Re: Random .sig generator Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:55:42 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3n5shv$1su@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA> <15925.9504241041@lang2.st-andrews.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <15925.9504241041@lang2.st-andrews.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 24 Apr 1995, Giuseppe Andrea Teti wrote: > 1. I have version 3.91, which -if I'm replying to some message- puts the .sig > on top of this message, which is really awkward if I want to reply using > original text. Is there any way of outting the .sig at the bottom? This is the default action (signature-at-bottom) for reply, but not for forwarding which I think is what you really meant. > 2. I have a group of friends to whom I regularly forward three or four messages > a day- is there any way I can automatise this creating a special header? I don't think there is a simple setup option to do this. I believe it is done this way to distinguish a forwarded message from a reply. Forwarded messages are not quoted. There is probably some RFC out there which says to do it this way. If you really need to do this, you could get fancy with editor macros. Kevin McElearney (KM108) _________________________________________________________________________ BBN Planet Corporation Phone: +1 617 873-4684 New England Region Engineering Fax: +1 617 873-5620 150 Cambridge Park Drive, 20/342 http://www.bbnplanet.com/ Cambridge, MA 02140 mailto:kmcelear@bbnplanet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 05:13:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26697; Sun, 7 May 95 05:13:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20218; Sun, 7 May 95 05:09:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20193; Sun, 7 May 95 05:09:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s856Z-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 05:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: IMAP daemon as Mail-user agent Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 22:55:13 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3o2v9u$176c@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3o2v9u$176c@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: You're on the right track. If you use the c-client API, you could support both local and IMAP mailboxes, since c-client has all that stuff in it. You probably do *not* want to write your own locking code if you can avoid it. If you want to hear why, take me to the nearest pub, order a pitcher of beer, and hear the tale of sorrow and woe... ;-) Anyway, yes, if you only use IMAP then you won't have any locking to worry about. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. On 1 May 1995, Trey Harris wrote: > (Is there a newsgroup for IMAP? A grep imap in my active file revealed > nothing...) > > I am writing a Mail-user agent (MUA) for my users. Not a generalized > program for their everyday mailreading, but rather to do some things that > my users are always asking me how to do and takes twenty or thirty > commands in pine (more if they don't yet have the aggregate-command-set > enabled). However, since the program would have to access the mailboxes > and change their contents, it does meet the definition of a MUA. > > Since my users operate over a sealed IMAP server, we cannot allow them a > mail filtering program such as procmail (if anyone has ideas on this, let > me know). So, I'm writing a simple program that will filter a user's > current mailbox at login time via IMAP. > > My question is this: it appears to me that, if I use IMAP and only IMAP > (i.e., I don't write anything in my script that will deal with Unix > textfile INBOXes), that I can jettison all the code one ordinarily must > write to deal with mailbox locking, because the IMAP daemon is already > doing them for me. > > Am I correct? In essence, in an IMAP client/server situation, isn't it > the IMAP daemon which is the MUA for mail reading, since it is handling > all the locking issues and mail message formats? > > (Oh, by the way, I'm not totally aversive to writing mailbox-locking > routines, I've just never done it before. If anyone knows where I can go > to read everything I ever wanted to know about mailbox locking, please do > let me know.) > -- > Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris > System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology > The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 05:14:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26729; Sun, 7 May 95 05:14:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16488; Sun, 7 May 95 05:09:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16482; Sun, 7 May 95 05:08:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s856c-00038SC; Sun, 7 May 95 05:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: IMAP confusion (and addressbook too) Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 22:57:17 -0700 Message-Id: References: <97dc-0105951148430001@student_97dc.williams.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: You don't need an SMTP gateway, but do you do need an SMTP server somewhere to talk to. If your PC is on the Internet, almost any system will do, but you should probably pick a machine that is local to you (e.g. your local UNIX machine). You tell PC-Pine which server to use by setting the smtp-server configuration parameter. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. On Mon, 1 May 1995, H. Marc Kneppers wrote: > Hi, > > OK, I've got PC-Pine ... I've got Unix Pine ... I've got the imapd > running ... I've got TCP/IP on the PC running. I can access my mail > folders on the Unix machine with PC-Pine via imapd. This is GREAT, works > well. (for windows, by the way). > > Problem is that I can't send mail. When I send it, the screen beeps at me > and then puts the cursor back up into the To: line. (a few seconds delay > here and there as well) > > What's wrong? > > Do I need something else, like an SMTP gateway (this is what the PC guy > tells me is required for commercial packages - but it costs big bucks) ? > I thought that Pine took care of this. > > Help, I am a little confused. > > On a second minor point - how do I get PC-Pine to see an addressbook > on the Unix machine. (or a signature for that matter)? When I specify > {machine.here.there}/path/.addressbook it just creates a file on my > PC's hard drive called c:/{machine.her > > Thanks, > > Marc Kneppers > knepperm@cuug.ab.ca > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 06:20:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27998; Sun, 7 May 95 06:20:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17093; Sun, 7 May 95 06:16:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from actcom.co.il by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17077; Sun, 7 May 95 06:16:00 -0700 Received: from galtronics.UUCP by actcom.co.il with UUCPgaltronics (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id QAA15705 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sun, 7 May 1995 16:15:16 +0300 (rfc931-sender: uucp@localhost) Received: by aviion.galtronics.co.il (5.4R2.10/ACTCOM-GALTRONICS-S-1.0) id AA28405; Sun, 7 May 1995 15:47:14 GMT Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 15:47:14 +0000 (GMT) From: Aladdin Khamis To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Procmail In-Reply-To: <3ofs65$fp@news.panix.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Can somebody send me a sample copy for .procmailrc, that I can use under pine to do mail filtering ? Thankx > |\/\/\/| > | | > | | > | (o)(o) > C. __) > | \___| > | / > /____\ > / \ > / \ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 07:00:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28765; Sun, 7 May 95 07:00:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17506; Sun, 7 May 95 06:54:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17500; Sun, 7 May 95 06:54:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s86lJ-00038TC; Sun, 7 May 95 06:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: unger@raindrop.seaslug.org (Tom Unger) Subject: Re: Printing in PC-Pine for Windows Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 02:56:17 GMT Message-Id: <1995May2.025617.5227@raindrop.seaslug.org> References: Status: O X-Status: PC-Pine for Windows tries to print in the same font and size as the text appears on your screen. "WhatYouSeeIsWhatYouGet" You should be able to hold the printed page over the window and find the text is exactly the same size. If it does not match then this is not a perfect world. Either windows lies about some screen dimensions or I am an inadequate windows programmer. Try increasing the font size in the pine window then print again. Perhaps you can find a font that is acceptable both on the screen and the page. If you have some unusual screen resolution set up that may be what causes the discrepancy. The next version will allow you to independantly set the window font and the printer font. BTW. I don't remember a "Setup|Printer" under a "Main Menu" Thomas Unger Networks and Distributed Computing University of Washington, Seattle In article , Marc Elbirt wrote: >When I print in Windows, I get condensed print (132 columns, about 100 lines >per page). This is unacceptable and unreadable. > >How do I change this to a more standard printout of 80 columns and 60 >lines per page? > >I tried Setup|Printer from the Main Menu, but the program responds with >nothing but a short pause. > >I am running Windows for Workgroups 3.11 with an HP LaserJet IIIp, all >properly configured. I am using Pine 3.91, downloaded about 4 weeks ago. -- -- Tom Unger WWC From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 07:14:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29069; Sun, 7 May 95 07:14:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21618; Sun, 7 May 95 07:09:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21612; Sun, 7 May 95 07:09:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s86yU-00038SC; Sun, 7 May 95 07:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Public Use of Pine Date: 7 May 1995 01:55:47 GMT Message-Id: <3oh9b3$1j1l@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3ocbnd$16j@abel.richland.cc.il.us> Status: O X-Status: In article <3ocbnd$16j@abel.richland.cc.il.us>, James Jones wrote: =We have PC's available for student use which are connected to a terminal =server through serial lines using trumpet winsock with wfw311. =Right now, our students have to telnet into our linux host and run pine from =a shell. Frequently, pine will lock or a student will go off without =logging out. =What I would like to be able to do is have the students not even have to =login to the unix machine to get their mail. I would like to have them =sit down at the public terminals, run pine, supply a login name and =password, and get their mail without having to mess with the linux side of =it. I don't want any user information stored on the local machines since =it will be a different person using it the next time. What you want is IMAP4 with IMSP capability. IMSP allows a centralized server to hold configuration options (such as addressbooks, Pine defaults, etc.) which a mail client can download to configure itself to a given user. Unfortunately, it isn't really available today except in very beta form. Look for it later this year, or check out http://andrew2.andrew.cmu.edu/cyrus/cyrus for information about an ongoing IMAP4/IMSP project. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 08:14:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00287; Sun, 7 May 95 08:14:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18179; Sun, 7 May 95 08:09:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18173; Sun, 7 May 95 08:09:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s87vw-00038SC; Sun, 7 May 95 08:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jlfitz@cais2.cais.com (Jeffrey Fitzgerald) Subject: How Do I Update PINE??? Date: 7 May 1995 06:13:06 GMT Message-Id: <3ohodi$igd@news.cais.com> Status: O X-Status: Hi, I would like to update PINE 3.89 to 3.91. I don't know how to get the update. I am on a unix based system, and any help is appreciated... -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jeffrey L. Fitzgerald // if you have to ask, jlfitz@cais.com \X/ you don't understand. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * Real Life On-Line Help 24 Hrs a Day... Jesus@Heaven.God * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 09:26:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01822; Sun, 7 May 95 09:26:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23145; Sun, 7 May 95 09:22:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23139; Sun, 7 May 95 09:22:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s88xN-00038SC; Sun, 7 May 95 09:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Pico configuration question Date: 7 May 1995 15:31:36 GMT Message-Id: <3oip4o$1l4i@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , blotorch wrote: > Can Pico be set up up so that when you save a file by typing >ctrl-O, it won't ask for the name of the file to save to, but >automatically save to whatever the name is of the file thats open? pico -t -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 10:12:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02842; Sun, 7 May 95 10:12:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19279; Sun, 7 May 95 10:07:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19273; Sun, 7 May 95 10:07:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s89ii-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 10:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: "=20" Date: 7 May 1995 15:45:17 GMT Message-Id: <3oipud$1mga@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3odp50$fs6@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx> <3oi5hi$2152@news.gate.net> Status: O X-Status: In article <3oi5hi$2152@news.gate.net>, PNEWS wrote: >It occurs with MIME incompatability, especially on lists. How can you >include a header to avoid this from happening? I've asked this question >before and apparently NO ONE can provide an adequate answer.. Listproc (characterized by the "To: Multiple recipients of" header) in particular rips out all headers and replaces them with its own. This means that if you have a MIME-encoded message, you have to guess at its type, and if you have a MIME multipart message you have to recreate the boundary-encoding, which is obscure. It's a hairy problem, but there's nothing you can do to get the list processor to behave differently. (Maybe a message to listserv with 'SET LIST xxx DWIM'? ;) The powers-that-be where I work have asked me to look at a utility called "munpack" which is supposed to extract MIME messages from text, even with corrupt headers (but that's only what a powers-that-be committee has told me, I don't know if it's true :). ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/mpack/. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 11:37:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04109; Sun, 7 May 95 11:37:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24608; Sun, 7 May 95 11:29:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24602; Sun, 7 May 95 11:29:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8B3k-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 11:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gcherer@millenium.texas.net (GT Cherer) Subject: What the heck is xbiff? Date: 2 May 1995 15:31:51 GMT Message-Id: <3o5j97$6lk@empire.texas.net> Status: O X-Status: and where do i find how to fiddle with it?? tia beaucoups -- G.T. Jeff Cherer gcherer@texas.net Voice: 210-532-7524 SnailMail: 1132 Vanderbilt St. 78210 "Time is the fire in which we burn. But, with a tasty sauce..." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 11:43:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04299; Sun, 7 May 95 11:43:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20152; Sun, 7 May 95 11:39:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20146; Sun, 7 May 95 11:39:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8BC4-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 11:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gmalling@dormouse.syr.edu Subject: Re: "=20" Date: 7 May 1995 18:35:49 GMT Message-Id: <3oj3u5$t45@newstand.syr.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: The =20 on the end of the line is the "quoted-printable" representation of a blank. Since some mail transport agents strip trailing blanks the mime capable user agent used quoted-printable to make sure they were not stripped. Programs are dumb so they have to assume that it it's there it must be important. Glenn A. Malling Syracuse University Computing Services +1 (315) 443-4111 220 Machinery Hall Syracuse, New York 13244-1260 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 15:15:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08370; Sun, 7 May 95 15:15:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22121; Sun, 7 May 95 15:10:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22115; Sun, 7 May 95 15:10:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8ETu-00038SC; Sun, 7 May 95 15:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Change return address ("From:") in Pine Date: 7 May 1995 15:54:21 GMT Message-Id: <3oiqfd$n6b@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3ofs65$fp@news.panix.com> Status: O X-Status: In article <3ofs65$fp@news.panix.com>, Mark Swearingen wrote: >Is there a way to change the return address ("From:" line) in a mail message >created in Pine? I see the following parameters in .pinerc for changing the >personal name and the domain name, but nothing for changing the user name: Ack, nak! Don't ask for that! That ain't a feature, that's a bug. With 20,000 users (most of whom are undergraduates), I probably get two or three complaints from faculty who have gotten suspicious email of which the supposed sender later denied authorship. And usually it isn't unattended terminal syndrome, either, but kids who have figured out how to use /usr/lib/sendmail or telnet localhost smtp. I spend enough time already consoling those profs and explaining to them how the big wide Net works. If Pine had a *configuration option* for forging messages, I wouldn't have time to do anything else! Security through obscurity... :) -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 15:15:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08376; Sun, 7 May 95 15:15:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27211; Sun, 7 May 95 15:10:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27205; Sun, 7 May 95 15:10:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8ERE-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 15:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: joc@netaxs.com (Joseph Casadonte) Subject: Multiple Selection from Address Book Date: 7 May 1995 15:32:02 GMT Message-Id: <3oip5i$av1@netaxs.com> Status: O X-Status: Hi, I was wondering if there was a way to select multiple names from the address book? For example, I'm forwarding something to 3 people, I hit ^T to get to the address book, and then 'S' or enter to select the address. Then I have to go back to the address book, etc, etc. Now, I understand that I can just type the nicknames; that's what they're there for after all, right? My problem is I usually find something interesting and go thru my book and say, "who would also find this interesting". TIA! joe joc@netaxs.com "Are you suggestin' coconuts mi-grate?" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 15:30:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08632; Sun, 7 May 95 15:30:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27350; Sun, 7 May 95 15:25:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27344; Sun, 7 May 95 15:25:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8EjH-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 15:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mcravit@hawk.depaul.edu (Matthew Cravit) Subject: Problem with domain name when sending mail Date: 4 May 1995 18:38:31 GMT Message-Id: <3ob6v7$5tq@hal.cs.depaul.edu> Status: O X-Status: I am having a problem with Pine 3.90 on Solaris for x86 version 2.4. When I send mail to a local user (ie put only the username in the to: field), pine drops the hostname from the domain. In other words, if I put in "root", Pine expands it to "root@acs-lc.depaul.edu" instead of "root@teacher.acs-lc.depaul.edu". I have specified the following in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed: user-domain=teacher.acs-lc.depaul.edu And I have taken the user-domain directive out of /usr/local/lib/pine.conf. I have also tried this with and without the use-only-domain-name set. Can anyone suggest to me how I might be able to fix this? The box on which Pine is running is going to be for relatively unsophisticated users, and I don't want to make them have to type the whole domain name if I can help it. Thanks /Matthew Cravit, System Manager DePaul University -- Matthew Cravit, | "After all is said and done, Academic Technology Development | more is said than done." DePaul University, Chicago IL | -- Anonymous E-Mail: mcravit@hawk.depaul.edu +----------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 16:03:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09108; Sun, 7 May 95 16:03:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22553; Sun, 7 May 95 15:58:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from yacht.ee.fit.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22547; Sun, 7 May 95 15:58:32 -0700 Received: by ee.fit.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0/900117wah) id AA21161; Sun, 7 May 95 18:51:19 EDT Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 18:51:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" X-Sender: ccurtis@yacht To: Pine List Subject: Pine 3.92 requested feature. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Would it be possible to include a "Cancel Article" function in the News section of Pine? I posted an article via Pine that wasn't recognized as mine when I tried to Cancel it via nn, and I'd kinda have liked to do that. TIA T | Christopher Curtis | In order to understand | O E | Sun Lab System Administrator | recursion, one must first | S A | Florida Institute of Technology | understand recursion. | / M | Melbourne, Florida N|N | 2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 16:17:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09365; Sun, 7 May 95 16:17:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22691; Sun, 7 May 95 16:10:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22685; Sun, 7 May 95 16:10:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8FP5-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 16:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: How to use any spell-checker you like Date: 7 May 1995 22:27:37 GMT Message-Id: <3ojhgp$1gh1@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Assuming you have access to a shell prompt and the 'enable-alternate-editor-cmd' and 'editor' Pine config variables aren't fixed at your site, using any old spell check program you damn well please isn't a problem. The reason is that spell-checkers qualify as "editors", in that they take the file whose name they were given on the command line and change it, then save it back in place. Spell checkers like Ispell are simply specialized editors. There are many other examples of such things; PGP encryption can also be used in such a fashion. So, you can make use of this fact to allow you to use any spell checker, editor, encryptor, etc.--without having to constantly change your Pine configuration. What you do is this: 1. Do you have a "bin" directory in your home directory? If not, create one (cd ; mkdir bin). Add it to your PATH or path environment variable: a. Edit .cshrc, .profile, .bashrc, or .zshenv (which one you edit depends on your shell; probably whichever you see when you do an "ls -a" is the right one). Look for a line, very early on in the file, that has "path" or "PATH" in it. It may look something like this: setenv PATH /bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/usr/local/bin or like this: PATH=/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/opt/bin:/usr/local/bin or even like this: path=( /bin /usr/local/bin /sbin . ) If the line has a PATH in all caps, then there will be colons in between the values, if lowercase path then spaces. Make sure to leave colons or spaces between each value, and stay inside the parentheses if they're there. b. When you've found a line like the above, go to the end (if there is a dot [.] right at the end, insert right before that dot) and add $HOME/bin (if you're editing a .profile) or ~/bin (if you're editing anything else). Make sure to add a colon if necessary! c. Save your file and log out and back in to let the changes take effect. 2. Now, go into your bin directory (cd bin), and create a new file. I call mine editi, you can call yours whatever you like. Put the following lines in the file: #!/bin/ksh read editor?"Editor?>> " exec $editor $* Make sure that the #! line is the *first* line of the file! (If you don't have the KornShell available on your site, you can try the following Perl script instead: #!/usr/bin/perl print "Editor?>> "; chop(($editor=)); exec "$editor", @ARGV; which should work just as well. If you have neither, then I feel sorry for you. :) [Actually, you can do this in any language.] 3. Save the file. Then type chmod 755 to give the file executable, i.e. "program", status. 4. Go into pine. In Setup/Configuration options, find "enable-alternate-editor-cmd" and check it if it isn't already. Then, right down near the bottom of the options, there's one called "editor". Change its value to be "editi" (or whatever you called the thing you just created). 5. Now, when you need to use any sort of "editor" other than Pico, just press control-underscore while composing. You'll get the "Editor?>>" prompt, and you can type the name of any editor you want, including ispell, emacs, or whatever. You can give it arguments as you please, i.e. "ispell -t". The only restriction is that the editor must take the file it is editing as its last argument. Have fun! -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 17:15:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10620; Sun, 7 May 95 17:15:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28697; Sun, 7 May 95 17:10:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28691; Sun, 7 May 95 17:10:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8GNB-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 17:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Re: Sorting: address --> folder Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 11:45:51 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3ogred$v2@mail.one.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3ogred$v2@mail.one.net> Status: O X-Status: On 6 May 1995, nobody wrote: > Date: 6 MAY 1995 21:58:37 GMT > From: nobody > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Sorting: address --> folder > Basically, what I'd like to do is have it so that if a message from a > specific address(es) arrives in my mailbox, I can file it into a > corresponding folder. [...] > Can I set Pine up to do this? If there is > another mail util I can use to do this or an add on to Pine, please let > me know as well. Thanks! Yet one more time. Pine itself does not do mail filtering. It can use the _results_ of mail filtering done by another program, such as procmail on Unix. For instance, I use procmail to pick out mailings from one listserv into a separate folder readable by Pine. It is done quietly, so to speak, even when I am not logged on. In this case, however, all mailings come from one or the other of two specific userids. Whether you can adapt it to your situation I don't know. Nancy McGough's mail filtering FAQ has lots of good information and instructions. I was able to set up procmail easily just by following a recipe. The FAQ is available at: [USENET newsgroup:] news.answers ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering_mail_faq.txt ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq (If you do not have access to these resources, I can email you a copy.) It is probably possible to do what you want to do. It's just a question of finding the right resources and documentation to do the job. The filtering FAQ is a good place to start. Paul From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 17:29:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10924; Sun, 7 May 95 17:29:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23497; Sun, 7 May 95 17:25:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23491; Sun, 7 May 95 17:25:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8GYp-00038SC; Sun, 7 May 95 17:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: filtering, once and for all Date: 7 May 1995 22:43:05 GMT Message-Id: <3ojidp$1l6b@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: In article <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com>, Bob Brody wrote: >Define the problem: I subscribe to many listservs, but when respective >mail arrives, all I see as far as sender is concerned is a person's name >(or ename, whatever). I *do not* see that it's from xyz listserv. >Consequently my inbox, newmail, etc., is inundated with hundreds of >mailings daily and I have no way of telling if an email is via listserv >or something specifically sent to me one-to-one. Subject info isn't >necessarily helpful in differentiating listserv from personal email. You're suffering from a very common misunderstanding of the way the list distribution programs work. The misunderstanding is because it is initially counterintuitive, but once you think about it, I think you'll understand. You see, when we talk about email that we have received because we are on a list, we say, "oh, I just got mail from the ziffle-bang list". But really, the ziffle-bang list didn't write anything. A *person*, say Jane Smith from Kenosha, sent that mail, and in actuality the mail is *from* Jane. All the ziffle-bang list did was propogate it to many different people, much the same as if you had received the mail yourself and bounced it to a bunch of your friends. It's not the From header that is important in determining whether the mail is coming from a list, it's the *TO* header. What you really want to know is not who the mail is from, but whether it is to you, or to you and ten thousand of your closest pals on the ziffle-bang list. This always surprises me when I hear people struggling with this backwards way of doing things, mostly because I've been using and running lists for so long that this seems only natural. But if you think about it, from the list's point of reference, this *is* natural. The mail is coming *from* Jane. It's going *to* the list, which you happen to be on. Lists aren't publications, but it's easy to fall into the trap of thinking of them as such. So, check the To line instead of the From line. Better yet (and this is what I do because it's so easy) look to the left of the numbers in your folder index. Mail to a list should have only the "N" for new messages. But mail that is specifically to you should have a plus next to it, too. If it doesn't, then that's something that should be fixed in Pine 3.92. But probably it works, and you just haven't noticed the little plus sign. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 18:35:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12083; Sun, 7 May 95 18:35:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29655; Sun, 7 May 95 18:30:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29649; Sun, 7 May 95 18:30:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8Hc2-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 18:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) Subject: Re: filtering, once and for all Date: 8 May 1995 01:26:41 GMT Message-Id: <3ojs0h$sec@news.primenet.com> References: <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com> <3ojidp$1l6b@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Trey Harris (harris@email.unc.edu) wrote: >You see, when we talk about email that we have received because we are on >a list, we say, "oh, I just got mail from the ziffle-bang list". But >really, the ziffle-bang list didn't write anything. A *person*, say Jane >Smith from Kenosha, sent that mail, and in actuality the mail is *from* >Jane. All the ziffle-bang list did was propogate it to many different >people, much the same as if you had received the mail yourself and >bounced it to a bunch of your friends. >It's not the From header that is important in determining whether the >mail is coming from a list, it's the *TO* header. What you really want >to know is not who the mail is from, but whether it is to you, or to you >and ten thousand of your closest pals on the ziffle-bang list. >This always surprises me when I hear people struggling with this >backwards way of doing things, mostly because I've been using and running >lists for so long that this seems only natural. But if you think about >it, from the list's point of reference, this *is* natural. The mail is >coming *from* Jane. It's going *to* the list, which you happen to be >on. Lists aren't publications, but it's easy to fall into the trap of >thinking of them as such. Well, if that's the way I should think of it, then that's how I will, I'm easy. But I have 'ta tell 'ya, it's not how I see it. When I recieve a magazine in the mail, say, Smithsonian, or Wired, Mad (my favorite) or whatever, there are lots of contributing articles to the gist of the magazine. These articles are not "from" so-&-so, they're "by" so-&-so, and they're not sent to "me" they're sent to the magazine. I receive so-&-so's article "from" the magazine, not from so-&-so. Consequently, where I use Internet services that don't present an index of mail via Pine, I get an Inbox that might look like this: ADA-LAW@vm1.nodak Filing deadlines outdoor-L@ulkyvm trash bins outdoor-L@ulkyvm RE: trash bins Shannon Brody Hi, Dad ODP-L@tamvm1 Slant drilling mishap Whereas via Pine: Brent Wilson Filing deadlines Ellen Smith trash bins Scott McIntyre RE: trash bins Shannon Brody Hi, Dad Bill Whitman Slant drilling mishap And when I have many Inbox screens filled with sometimes hundreds of mails arrived, it's just much easier to note the real source of the mail, the list, to distinguish what's what and from where. From "whom" is not the source lest it's a personal email and to present just a person's name doesn't help when it's coming from a listserv because the mail is really not "to me." So I respectfully disagree with your view as to the origin of an email. >So, check the To line instead of the From line. But the To line is not what's listed in my Inbox index screen, the person the mail is from is what's listed. OTOH, if there's a Pine setting that will show me the To: line rather than the From: line when I view my Inbox index, then perhaps that's precisely what I'm after and I haven't configured Pine properly to do it. >Better yet (and this is >what I do because it's so easy) look to the left of the numbers in your >folder index. Mail to a list should have only the "N" for new messages. >But mail that is specifically to you should have a plus next to it, too. Now we're in sync. I was over-looking this and indeed you're right, the plus sign distinguishes personal email and I thank you for the tip (I wonder if I can perform a sort that will organize personal email from everything else; anyway, no matter, looking for the plus sign is very helpful, thanks). Remains, however, to be able to distinguish various listserv mailings but in fact I'm not as concerned about that now that I'm reminded of the efficacy of the plus sign. Thanks for the reply. Regards, Bob From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 18:59:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12593; Sun, 7 May 95 18:59:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24352; Sun, 7 May 95 18:55:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24346; Sun, 7 May 95 18:55:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8HxK-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 18:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gray@access5.digex.net Subject: Folder Passwords? Date: 7 May 1995 11:17:08 -0400 Message-Id: <3oio9k$dtt@access5.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to attach passwords to individual folders? Thanks in advance. * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 19:13:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13091; Sun, 7 May 95 19:13:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00253; Sun, 7 May 95 19:08:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00247; Sun, 7 May 95 19:08:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8I7n-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 19:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: new-month messages In-Reply-To: Carl Reimann's message of Mon, 1 May 1995 00: 28:09 -0400 Message-Id: References: Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 01:37:07 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article Carl Reimann writes: I strongly dislike having Pine ask me if I would like to zap old sent-mail folders. I could accidentally hit 'y' and loose tons of mail. I would really like to see a way to turn that feature off as it is extremely dangerous. >From the "Secrets of Pine 3.90" document that Pine offers to send the first time you run 3.90 (and probably 3.91 -- I've forgotten now): o You can suppress the monthly "sent mail" pruning prompts by setting the "last-time-prune-questioned=" variable in your .pinerc to a date far in the future, e.g. "99.9" You will need to do this by manually editing your .pinerc; you cannot change this value from the Setup/Config screen. -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 19:19:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13196; Sun, 7 May 95 19:19:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24605; Sun, 7 May 95 19:15:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24593; Sun, 7 May 95 19:15:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8IH7-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 19:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Re: Get Rid of Headers? Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 11:23:22 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3og914$q4s@news.cais.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3og914$q4s@news.cais.com> Status: O X-Status: On 6 May 1995, Mark Jones wrote: > I often export e-mail items to files in my home directory. However, > when I do so, there's always 1 or 2 screenfulls of header info that comes > along with it, which I then have to edit out. Is there any way to supress > these headers, in whole or in part, in order to eliminate the step of > editing them out? Thanks for any help! It sounds to me as if you have full headers toggled on when you do the export. When you are viewing an item in Pine, try pressing the 'h' key a couple of times and watch what happens to the headers. The export command writes out full headers or not depending on the status of the headines, full or not. It works for me with Unix Pine 3.91. Paul From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 19:19:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13220; Sun, 7 May 95 19:19:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00354; Sun, 7 May 95 19:15:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00348; Sun, 7 May 95 19:15:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8IKS-00038TC; Sun, 7 May 95 19:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) Subject: filtering, once and for all Date: 7 May 1995 03:40:16 GMT Message-Id: <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: Define the problem: I subscribe to many listservs, but when respective mail arrives, all I see as far as sender is concerned is a person's name (or ename, whatever). I *do not* see that it's from xyz listserv. Consequently my inbox, newmail, etc., is inundated with hundreds of mailings daily and I have no way of telling if an email is via listserv or something specifically sent to me one-to-one. Subject info isn't necessarily helpful in differentiating listserv from personal email. So I simply must be able to separate mail if only visually in order to spot personal email from listserv and/or junk email. Some services I've used in the past list listserv mail as sent from the listserv, not by name of who wrote the note, followed by subject/thread info. That makes it very easy to tell which is from which listserv or if personal email. But I'm not able to do that with Pine. Suggestions/instructions/documentation on how to fix this problem will be most appreciated. I read a faq on filtering, by Nancy McGough, but the instructions do not work via many ISP's, including this one, Primenet. No fixit suggestions from her end and evasive techno- gibberish from Primenet's end as to why her .forward file's string doesn't work here, etc., etc., etc. So I need help on this because I find myself either subscribing to different services just to subscribe to a single listserv thus always knowing which mail is which, or unsubscribing from listservs because I just can't distill personal email from hundreds of listserv posts when everything is presented by personal sender name. Clearly (no pun intended, well, maybe so ) there's got to be an expeditious way to deal with this. I frustratingly seek your experience if you've figured it out. Bob brody@primenet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 21:15:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15567; Sun, 7 May 95 21:15:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01839; Sun, 7 May 95 21:09:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01833; Sun, 7 May 95 21:09:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8K27-00038TC; Sun, 7 May 95 21:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: "=20" Date: 7 May 1995 18:58:22 GMT Message-Id: <3oj58e$91j@news.ysu.edu> References: <3oipud$1mga@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3odp50$fs6@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx> In article <3oi5hi$2152@news.gate.net>, PNEWS wrote: >>It occurs with MIME incompatability, especially on lists. How can you >>include a header to avoid this from happening? I've asked this question >>before and apparently NO ONE can provide an adequate answer.. > >Listproc (characterized by the "To: Multiple recipients of" header) in >particular rips out all headers and replaces them with its own. This >means that if you have a MIME-encoded message, you have to guess at its >type, and if you have a MIME multipart message you have to recreate the >boundary-encoding, which is obscure. It's a hairy problem, but there's >nothing you can do to get the list processor to behave differently. >(Maybe a message to listserv with 'SET LIST xxx DWIM'? ;) Sure, LISTSERV does include the possiblilty to get mail with full headers. Unfortunately, it's not the default, and likewise, anyone in need of full headers (for MIME awareness) must issue this command. Quoting here from the LISTSERV mail received upon giving the INFO REFCARD command... [*CUT* *SNIP* *CHOP* *THWACK* *SLICE* *SEVER*] *-> LISTSERV REFCARD: General user commands * [*CRUNCH* *MUNCH*] SET listname options Alter your subscription options: [*CLIP* *CLIP* *CLIP* *CLIP* *CLIP*] Options for mail headers of incoming postings (choose one): FULLhdr or FULLBsmtp -> "Full" mail headers IETFhdr -> Internet-style headers SHORThdr or SHORTBsmtp -> Short (default) headers DUALhdr -> Dual headers, useful with PC or Mac mail programs [end quotation] HTH. HAND. -- Barry Bouwsma, will crash computers for chocolate and dental care Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) In a blindfolded taste test, 4 of 5 newsreaders could not tell the difference between Spam and Velveeta... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 21:15:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15612; Sun, 7 May 95 21:15:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25785; Sun, 7 May 95 21:09:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25779; Sun, 7 May 95 21:09:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8K1j-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 21:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Subject: Re: suggestion Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 22:52:11 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: All you really need are Y/Enter to print with the default printer and N/^C to cancel. Only, before hittiny Y/Enter, you'd have the option to edit the print command. Kinda like when you're opening a remote folder over IMAP... ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(,_(,)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>, _>, WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ On 28 Apr 1995, John Andrea wrote: > So that if it comes up with lpr -Pprinter > the options are yes no and modify, and selecting modify allows you to > change the name of the printer for this message. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 22:08:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16583; Sun, 7 May 95 22:08:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26332; Sun, 7 May 95 22:01:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26326; Sun, 7 May 95 22:00:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8Ks9-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 21:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsa0001@jove.acs.unt.edu (James Scott Allen) Subject: Making Money By MAIL Date: 8 May 1995 04:25:45 GMT Message-Id: <3ok6g9$38f@hermes.unt.edu> Status: O X-Status: If you believe that someday you deserve that lucky break that you have waited for all of your life, simply follow the easy instructions below. 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Box 6825 Denton, TX 76203 The following letter was written by a participating member in this program. To those with the COMMON sense to participate in this easy money opportunity: About six months ago I received the enclose letter, I ignored it. I received about five more of the same letter within the next two week.I ignored them also. Of course, I was tempted to follow through and dreamed of making thousands, but I was convinced it was just another gimmick and could not possibly work. I was wrong! About three weeks later I saw this same letter posted on a ignored it. I received about five more of the same letter within the next two weeks and I ignored them also. Of course, I was tempted to follow through and dreamed of making thousands, but I was convinced it was just another gimmick and could not possibly work. I was wrong! About three weeks later I saw this same letter posted on a local bulletin board in Phoenix. I liked the idea of giving it a try with my computer. I didn't expect much because I figured, if other people wereas skeptical as I, they would not be too quick to part with $5.00. But, I BUY LOTTERY TICKETS WEEKLY IN MY STATE AND HAVE NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT BUT TICKET STUBS! This week I decided to look at this as my weekly lottery purchase. I addressed the envelopes and mailed out $1.00 in each as directed. Two weeks went by and I didn't receive anything in the mail. The fourth week rolled around and I couldn't believe what happened! I can not say that I received $50,000.00, but it was definitely well over $35,000.00! For the first time in 10 years I got out of debt. It was great. Of course, it did not take me long to go through my earnings, so I am using this excellent money opportunity once again. FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS AND GET READY TO ENJOY! Please send a copy of this letter along with the enclosed letter so together we can convince people who are skeptical that this is no gimmick! Good Luck, Jody Kerr Paradise Valley, AZ. Hey.... I'm one of the people who downloaded this awhile ago, and I've made quite a profit...not 50,000 dollars, but TONS more than the 5 bucks I sent in. It might take more than 60 days to get 50,000, but I think I can wait. Danny Wood From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 22:59:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17653; Sun, 7 May 95 22:59:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03069; Sun, 7 May 95 22:54:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03063; Sun, 7 May 95 22:54:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8Lfk-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 22:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "H. Marc Kneppers" Subject: Re: IMAP confusion (and addressbook too) Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 09:35:30 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 2 May 1995, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Tue, 2 May 1995, H. Marc Kneppers wrote: > > > On Tue, 2 May 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > > > > > "SMTP connection went away" indicates that the connection to the SMTP > > > server closed unexpectedly. I wonder if there might be some sort of > > What TCP/IP stack are you running on the PC? I've seen problems > with FTP Software's stack in version 2.3 and below. > I'm not the PC guy, but when I ask him about that he says this: He's not sure what you mean by 'stack'. I assume that it is the protocol layers or something like that - tcp/ip sits on top of something else, etc. APparently, there seem to be two stacks, one that comes with windows and one that the Novell network uses. (Windows 3.11, Novell Lan Workplace for DOS 4.2). The order of loading seems to be: Novell stack (ipx), then tcp, then windows (netbui). From there we try to run Pine. Any help at all? Thanks, Marc kneppers@acs.ucalgary.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 22:59:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17677; Sun, 7 May 95 22:59:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03089; Sun, 7 May 95 22:55:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03083; Sun, 7 May 95 22:55:42 -0700 Received: from kelly.teleport.com (bsherman@kelly.teleport.com [192.108.254.10]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA20378 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 22:04:57 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 22:49:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian E. Sherman" To: Mark Jones Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Get Rid of Headers? In-Reply-To: <3og914$q4s@news.cais.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 6 May 1995, Mark Jones wrote: > I often export e-mail items to files in my home directory. However, > when I do so, there's always 1 or 2 screenfulls of header info that comes > along with it, which I then have to edit out. Is there any way to supress > these headers, in whole or in part, in order to eliminate the step of > editing them out? Thanks for any help! In Pine3.91 while reading e-mail use the following commands: 1) "V"iewAttch command 2) "S"ave function 3) "E"xit Viewer This only exports the body of the message to a file no matter what the status is of the headers are (ie: Rich or Suppressed). Hope this helps! -- "It would be quite possible to control a distant computer by means of a telephone line." - Alan Turing, 1947 "Who the hell is General Failure, and why is he reading my disk?" Actual comment overheard from one of my users! []=====================================================================[] [] Newport/Layton Home Fashions,Inc. - MIS/EDI Manager [] [] E-Mail: Brian E. Sherman bsherman@teleport.com [] [] snailMail: 1420 NW Lovejoy St. Portland, Oregon USA 97209 [] [] Voice: 503-222-3847 Ext. 234 Fax: 503-222-7465 [] []=====================================================================[] ++INCLUDE /usr/bsherman/Std.Disclaimer From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 23:05:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17860; Sun, 7 May 95 23:05:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26943; Sun, 7 May 95 23:01:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26937; Sun, 7 May 95 23:01:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8Lpu-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 22:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Imre Toro Subject: Sending mail in the background Date: 3 May 1995 15:30:44 GMT Message-Id: <3o87j4$47@ictpsp10.ictp.trieste.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hi! Is it possibile to configure Pine to send mails in the background as is in Elm. Now while sending a mail I have to wait until the "Sending mail..." message disappears. Any helps appreciated. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 23:45:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18426; Sun, 7 May 95 23:45:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03670; Sun, 7 May 95 23:41:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03664; Sun, 7 May 95 23:41:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8MNY-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 23:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chenhui Feng Subject: Re: Get Rid of Headers? Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 20:52:36 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3og914$q4s@news.cais.com> Status: O X-Status: On 6 May 1995, Mark Jones wrote: > I often export e-mail items to files in my home directory. However, > when I do so, there's always 1 or 2 screenfulls of header info that comes > along with it, which I then have to edit out. Is there any way to supress > these headers, in whole or in part, in order to eliminate the step of > editing them out? Thanks for any help! Try to use command 'v'(view) and save as an attachment, there would be no header in your saved file at all. Chenhui From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 8 00:01:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18775; Mon, 8 May 95 00:01:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27505; Sun, 7 May 95 23:56:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27499; Sun, 7 May 95 23:56:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8Mbm-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 23:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) Subject: Re: filtering, once and for all Date: 8 May 1995 06:26:08 GMT Message-Id: <3okdi0$g0c@news.primenet.com> References: <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: Phil Tompkins (tompkins@earth.cnct.com) wrote: > >When you display your list of mail, press the semi-colon key, >which is the select command. When you are asked for criteria, >choose T (text), then A (all text), then key in the name of >one of your listservs. > >Then press A (apply next command to all selected mail). >Then you can either save all selected messages to another folder, >or you can export to a file in your home directory. > >I use export. Since I have communication software on my PC with >buffer capture to disk, I exit Pine, go to shell, turn on buffer >capture,then cat the file I exported to. Then I read the stuff >off line. > >A little awkward, but when Pine comes out with a scripting ability >it will be just fine. A "little" awkward?? I've got more than a dozen listservs to deal with. I'm familiar with the approach you mention but I'm not one who gets off on fondling my keyboard. I just wanna see what mail I've got, especially in the morning when I first check for anything urgent before going about my business. OTOH, I've been thinking my PC's comm program has a fine scripting language and I might very well be able to automate the procedure you've outlined. I use its scripting language for automating a number of online actions. I think I can massage it for this purpose as well. Ideally, I'd just like to see listserv mail amid real email show up like this: outdoor-l (size) new campsites outdoor-l (size) trail bikes biotech (size) a breakthrough law-net (size) tort reform law-net (size) RE: tort reform Jessica Brody (size) I need $$, Pop archeaology-l (size) scrolls translation etc. While I appreciate what was said about how another views lists mail, I view 2-way lists as a kind of interactive magazine. I would like to see my mail listed by way of the list and of course respective article subjects. Probably no need to have more than the list's name which prefixes the @ sign. I'm afraid I can't see this as any simpler or easier to distinguish which mail is which at instant glance. The previous explanation given me as to how listserv mail should be considered simply strikes me as time consuming if not arcane. bob brody@primenet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 8 01:49:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21128; Mon, 8 May 95 01:49:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05182; Mon, 8 May 95 01:41:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05176; Mon, 8 May 95 01:41:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8OHq-00038RC; Mon, 8 May 95 01:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Phil Tompkins Subject: Re: filtering, once and for all Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 22:32:38 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: On 7 May 1995, Bob Brody wrote: > Define the problem: I subscribe to many listservs, but when respective > mail arrives, all I see as far as sender is concerned is a person's name > (or ename, whatever). I *do not* see that it's from xyz listserv. etc. Try this: Go into Setup. Choose configure. Activate the aggegate command option. Exit Pine, then go back in. When you display your list of mail, press the semi-colon key, which is the select command. When you are asked for criteria, choose T (text), then A (all text), then key in the name of one of your listservs. Then press A (apply next command to all selected mail). Then you can either save all selected messages to another folder, or you can export to a file in your home directory. I use export. Since I have communication software on my PC with buffer capture to disk, I exit Pine, go to shell, turn on buffer capture,then cat the file I exported to. Then I read the stuff off line. A little awkward, but when Pine comes out with a scripting ability it will be just fine. Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 8 03:10:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22823; Mon, 8 May 95 03:10:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29348; Mon, 8 May 95 03:01:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29342; Mon, 8 May 95 03:01:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8Pap-00038SC; Mon, 8 May 95 02:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: s11976@ctsc.hkbc.hk (PM Wong) Subject: Where is Unix Pine FAQ Date: 8 May 1995 15:24:20 +0800 Message-Id: <3okgv4$ik9@ctsc.hkbc.hk> Status: O X-Status: The subject says it all. Is there such an FAQ, if so, where ? -- \\\// (o o) [----------------ooO-(_)-Ooo---------------] PM Wong (Computer Officer) CTSC [User User User User User User User User Us] Hong Kong Baptist University [ser User User User User User User User Use] 224 Waterloo Road, Kln. HONGKONG [er User User User User User User User User] Voice: (852)3397425 Fax: 3397888 [------------------------------------------] Email: pm@ctsc.hkbc.hk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 8 05:53:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27008; Mon, 8 May 95 05:53:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08247; Mon, 8 May 95 05:41:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08241; Mon, 8 May 95 05:41:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8S5d-00038RC; Mon, 8 May 95 05:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: filtering, once and for all Date: 8 May 1995 12:30:35 GMT Message-Id: <3ol2tb$ktm@news.ysu.edu> References: <3okdi0$g0c@news.primenet.com> <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com> Ideally, I'd just like to see listserv mail amid real email show up >like this: > > outdoor-l (size) new campsites > outdoor-l (size) trail bikes > biotech (size) a breakthrough > law-net (size) tort reform > law-net (size) RE: tort reform > Jessica Brody (size) I need $$, Pop > archeaology-l (size) scrolls translation In this case you want Pine to display your index not by the From: field, but rather by the Sender: field (wherein the LISTSERV name can be found). Doesn't appear to be an option to select this, although you can select how messages should be saved -- whether by the list name, or by the author: the former corresponds to the by-sender rule, and the latter to by-from. I agree that it would be a desirable feature for one to select whether the Sender: or the From: field is displayed in the index, and maybe the Pine team will add this to 3.92, to give you the behavior shown above. -- Barry Bouwsma, will crash computers for chocolate and dental care Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) In a blindfolded taste test, 4 of 5 newsreaders could not tell the difference between Spam and Velveeta... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 8 07:21:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28839; Mon, 8 May 95 07:21:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02153; Mon, 8 May 95 07:07:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from osf1.gmu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02147; Mon, 8 May 95 07:07:13 -0700 Received: by osf1.gmu.edu; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/07Sep94-1001AM/GMUv1) id AA10061; Mon, 8 May 1995 10:07:12 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 10:07:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Sherry H. Lake" Reply-To: slake@gmu.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Addressbook "BUG" Detected Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-912889482-799442225=:14447" Content-Id: Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-912889482-799442225=:14447 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: One of our users gets "bug detected in pine" when trying to edit a certain field (Fullname) in his address book. I asked him to send (e-mail) me a copy of of the addressbook. I received the following addressbook (via mail) from him. I saved the addressbook as a "new addressbook", added the new addressbook filename to my addressbook list, started pine, went into Addressbook and tried to change the Fullname of the 2nd entry. I too get the "BUG detected" in pine. ---- Sherry H. Lake slake@gmu.edu Electronic Mail Consultant George Mason University ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Trying to change second address fullname from "Marquina, Cindy" to > "chipmunk". Here's my addressbook. mandy Fontenot,Amanda afonteno@osf1.gmu.edu chipmunk Marquina, Cindy cmarquin@osf1.gmu.edu TYGRR TYGRR asmithh@osf1.gmu.edu katawaba Vaughan, Katawaba kvaughan@osf1.gmu.edu --0-912889482-799442225=:14447-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 8 07:52:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29674; Mon, 8 May 95 07:52:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02532; Mon, 8 May 95 07:38:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02526; Mon, 8 May 95 07:38:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8TsH-00038SC; Mon, 8 May 95 07:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Vergil Mandzuk Subject: Uuencoded file Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 12:30:08 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have received mail with uuencoded binary data. Is it possible to transfer this mail from PC-Pine 3.91 to my local terminal? File integrity is required so that I may uudecode it. Thanks, Verg ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Vergil Mandzuk vergil@freenet.mb.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 8 08:27:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01028; Mon, 8 May 95 08:27:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10408; Mon, 8 May 95 08:16:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from donald.uoregon.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10402; Mon, 8 May 95 08:16:37 -0700 Received: from OREGON.UOREGON.EDU by OREGON.UOREGON.EDU (PMDF V4.3-9 #7713) id <01HQ953XNJC08ZDXPD@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU>; Mon, 08 May 1995 08:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 08 May 1995 08:16:34 -0700 (PDT) From: THOMPSON@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU Subject: Sent mail function To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: X-Envelope-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: Dear sirs and madames, I have tried to get an answer to this question from the University of Oregon computer center but they tell me "we don't know anything about PC-Pine; we only know about Pine, sorry." My problem is this. About two or three months ago my Pine program began automatically saving sent mail. I don't like this--it fills up my mailbox. I have discovered on my own that there is a way to turn this off (put the message default-fcc="" in the configuration file), but I cannot find out how to modify this file. Would be be so kind as to tell me what I must do to turn off this function? I am using Pine 3.89. Please help me. Thanks --Augustine Thompson, O.P. Asst. Prof. of Medieval Christianity Department of Religious Studies University of Oregon, Eugene OR 97403-1294 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 8 08:28:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01067; Mon, 8 May 95 08:28:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03124; Mon, 8 May 95 08:15:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03116; Mon, 8 May 95 08:15:04 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id LAA04783; Mon, 8 May 1995 11:14:47 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id LAA11891; Mon, 8 May 1995 11:14:46 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA08296; Mon, 8 May 95 11:13:21 EDT Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:13:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Vergil Mandzuk Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Uuencoded file In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1915846483-1552489726-799946000=:8219" Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1915846483-1552489726-799946000=:8219 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 5 May 1995, Vergil Mandzuk wrote: > > I have received mail with uuencoded binary data. Is it possible > to transfer this mail from PC-Pine 3.91 to my local terminal? File > integrity is required so that I may uudecode it. > Yes. The uuencoded file is ASCII, so you can Export the message and uudecode the file on your Unix host or with the DOS version of uudecode, which I have attached to this message. 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It was certainly not my intent to encourage >forgery. However, for people who have more than one address at which they can >receive e-mail, it would be convenient to set the return address at one >location to the other address, so that all return mail came to one location. >Thus, there is a "legitimate" use for such a feature. This is why there is a Reply-To field. Either edit your .pinerc file to add that to the customized-hdrs variable, or use the Setup-Config command to add the customized header. If I were to add this, it might look like this in the .pinerc: customized-hdrs=Reply-To: james@sagarmatha.com -- James C. Armstrong, Jr. | Some say the world will end in fire, james@sagarmatha.com | Some say in ice. jca@netcom.com | From what I've tasted of desire URL: | I hold with those who favor fire. ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/jc/jca/homepage.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 8 09:48:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04539; Mon, 8 May 95 09:48:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04814; Mon, 8 May 95 09:27:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04808; Mon, 8 May 95 09:27:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8VZx-00038XC; Mon, 8 May 95 09:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dagon@coho.halcyon.com (Mark Rafn) Subject: Re: Pine under linux and DOS - lockfiles? Message-Id: <3obkjr$1ip@news1.halcyon.com> Date: 4 May 1995 22:31:23 GMT References: <3o4k1e$do2@ns2.via.at> <3o727i$pbr@sundog.tiac.net> Status: O X-Status: Peter H. Lemieux wrote: >In article <3o4k1e$do2@ns2.via.at>, ChFi@via.at says... >> >>I would like to use pine under linux and under DOS, using the same local >>message folders under both OS. > >You could add an NFS client like XFS to your DOS stack and put the folders on >the Linux partition. This would only work if the Linux and DOS machines are two different computers. If that's the case, just use IMAP to keep the folders on the Linux machine (Folder-path: {linux.my.net}mail/). If you switch the machine from Linux to/from DOS, there may not be a way to have Pine share folders between the two OSs. If Linux can mount a DOS filesystem, that may be the way to go - keep your Linux folders on the DOS partition, then both Pines can get them. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 8 11:09:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07800; Mon, 8 May 95 11:09:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14347; Mon, 8 May 95 10:57:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14341; Mon, 8 May 95 10:57:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8Wzs-00038ZC; Mon, 8 May 95 10:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mark@ephesus.com (Mark Swearingen) Subject: Re: Change return address ("From:") in Pine Date: 8 May 1995 09:43:47 GMT Message-Id: <3okp4j$kd7@news.panix.com> References: <3oiqfd$n6b@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) writes: > Ack, nak! Don't ask for that! That ain't a feature, that's a bug. With > 20,000 users (most of whom are undergraduates), I probably get two or > three complaints from faculty who have gotten suspicious email of which > the supposed sender later denied authorship. And usually it isn't > unattended terminal syndrome, either, but kids who have figured out how > to use /usr/lib/sendmail or telnet localhost smtp. > I spend enough time already consoling those profs and explaining to them > how the big wide Net works. If Pine had a *configuration option* for > forging messages, I wouldn't have time to do anything else! I understand your concern re: deceptive e-mail and the problems it presents you as a system administrator. It was certainly not my intent to encourage forgery. However, for people who have more than one address at which they can receive e-mail, it would be convenient to set the return address at one location to the other address, so that all return mail came to one location. Thus, there is a "legitimate" use for such a feature. People who want to decieve will find a way, even if Pine doesn't offer it. Spry's AIR Mail program for Windows, which is what I normally use, allows you to set your return address to anything you want, so anyone with a PC can generate a message with any return address they want. Heck, for that matter, you can send a typewritten letter through the postal mail with someone else's name and return address. The world is an unsafe place. To get back to my original question, it would appear from your response that Pine does not have a configuration option for setting the username on the return address. Thank you for that information. --- Mark Swearingen / NYC From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 8 16:52:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27234; Mon, 8 May 95 16:52:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14517; Mon, 8 May 95 16:37:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14511; Mon, 8 May 95 16:37:28 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28271; Mon, 8 May 95 16:37:25 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 16:37:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Matthew Cravit Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problem with domain name when sending mail In-Reply-To: <3ob6v7$5tq@hal.cs.depaul.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Matthew, The way user-domain works was changed in Pine 3.91. Prior to that there were some quirks with the way it worked, and you're probably running into one of those quirks. With 3.91, if you set user-domain that is what you'll get. So the suggestion is to upgrade to 3.91. Thanks. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On 4 May 1995, Matthew Cravit wrote: > I am having a problem with Pine 3.90 on Solaris for x86 version 2.4. > When I send mail to a local user (ie put only the username in the to: > field), pine drops the hostname from the domain. In other words, if I > put in "root", Pine expands it to "root@acs-lc.depaul.edu" instead of > "root@teacher.acs-lc.depaul.edu". I have specified the following in > /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed: > > user-domain=teacher.acs-lc.depaul.edu > > And I have taken the user-domain directive out of > /usr/local/lib/pine.conf. I have also tried this with and without the > use-only-domain-name set. > > Can anyone suggest to me how I might be able to fix this? The box on > which Pine is running is going to be for relatively unsophisticated > users, and I don't want to make them have to type the whole domain > name if I can help it. > > Thanks > > /Matthew Cravit, System Manager > DePaul University > > -- > Matthew Cravit, | "After all is said and done, > Academic Technology Development | more is said than done." > DePaul University, Chicago IL | -- Anonymous > E-Mail: mcravit@hawk.depaul.edu +----------------------------- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 8 17:34:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29555; Mon, 8 May 95 17:34:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15632; Mon, 8 May 95 17:27:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15625; Mon, 8 May 95 17:27:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8d8a-00038SC; Mon, 8 May 95 17:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dragon@swift.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Tom Glanzman) Subject: Q: odd delays in pine Message-Id: Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 20:35:31 GMT Status: O X-Status: I've just started using pine (version 3.89 on an rs/6000 running AIX 3.2.5) and notice two curious delays: - after mail arrives (according to xbiff), it takes several minutes for this to register with pine's INBOX display - whenever pine senses a new mail message or some other event occurs, the pine window seems to freeze for about 10-15 seconds during which time one cannot, for example, continue composing a new outgoing mail message. My main question is whether this behavior is unique to my system, is inherent to pine, or whether it reflects some internal parameter setting(s) that can be changed to eliminate these delays. Other Qs: - is there a way to automatically create a monthly file of received messages (analogously to the way sent messages are handled)? - is there a reason I should try to get a new version of pine installed? (Is there a newer version for the rs/6000?) Please respond by email as it is difficult for me to carefully monitor this news group. Thank you for your help! --- Tom Glanzman | dragon@SLAC.Stanford.edu Stanford Linear Accelerator Center | http://www.slac.stanford.edu/~dragon M/S 95, P.O. Box 4349 | (415) 926-3160 (office) Stanford, California 94309 USA | (415) 926-2657 (FAX) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 8 17:45:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29961; Mon, 8 May 95 17:45:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29261; Mon, 8 May 95 17:38:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29255; Mon, 8 May 95 17:38:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8dFf-00038RC; Mon, 8 May 95 17:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: st92bpfv@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Neil Harkins) Subject: .pinerc: cross-linked file error Date: 8 May 1995 17:36:09 GMT Message-Id: <3olkq9$cjc@noc2.drexel.edu> Status: O X-Status: All of a sudden I started getting this error when I start pine: [Error saving configuration in file "/home/neil/.pinerc": Cross-device link] Any ideas what "cross-device link" means? -Neil Harkins st92bpfv@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 8 18:16:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01087; Mon, 8 May 95 18:16:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16231; Mon, 8 May 95 18:08:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16225; Mon, 8 May 95 18:08:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8diw-00038RC; Mon, 8 May 95 18:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: BRENNAN@HAL.HAHNEMANN.EDU (A. Andrew Brennan) Subject: "Last read" message?? Date: 8 May 1995 18:04:43 GMT Message-Id: <3olmfr$903@cmi.hahnemann.edu> Status: O X-Status: Ok, I know the newsreading functionality has been revamped in the recent releases. Is there any plan to have Pine track the last read messages in various groups?? If so, would there be any reason the same routines would not apply to read-only folders?? I'm playing around with a mailing list "server" config using IMAP and would like users to be able to track their last read message. A possible approach would be to feed the mailing lists into a pseudo-newsserver, but I really dislike the news reader we're currently using and would like to avoid increasing user dependence on it ... (and, no ... I'm using a different newsreader. :^) andrew. (brennan@hal.hahnemann.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 8 20:04:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04205; Mon, 8 May 95 20:04:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01543; Mon, 8 May 95 19:54:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01537; Mon, 8 May 95 19:54:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8fLl-00038XC; Mon, 8 May 95 19:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Q: odd delays in pine Date: 9 May 1995 02:18:30 GMT Message-Id: <3omjdm$1imr@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Tom Glanzman wrote: >I've just started using pine (version 3.89 on an rs/6000 running AIX 3.2.5) >and notice two curious delays: > > - after mail arrives (according to xbiff), it takes several minutes > for this to register with pine's INBOX display It should take around two and a half minutes at maximum (but a watched kettle never boils). Press control-L to get Pine to check immediately. > - whenever pine senses a new mail message or some other event occurs, > the pine window seems to freeze for about 10-15 seconds during which > time one cannot, for example, continue composing a new outgoing mail > message. Get Pine version 3.91. (But be careful of the pine-interrupted-mail bug, it happens a lot under AIX! Just remember if you get weird errors about having a postponed composition, but not having anything to continue, just 'rm .pine-interrupted*' in your home directory.) >Other Qs: > - is there a way to automatically create a monthly file of received > messages (analogously to the way sent messages are handled)? Um... export EDITOR=/usr/local/bin/pico (or setenv EDITOR /usr/local/bin/pico, whichever works) crontab -e 0 0 1 * * (cd $HOME/mail ; mv saved-messages $(date +saved-messages-\%b-\%Y)) [save] Then at midnight on the first of every month, saved-messages becomes saved-messages-Month-Year, just like sent-mail. Unfortunately, by this method, your May messages will be marked June, June July, and so on. Maybe 59 23 31 * * (cd... except that will not work in February, April, May, September, and November. (Ouch, this is getting difficult!) You could always write a Perl script called backdate: #!/usr/bin/perl # backdate--simple date formatter running a month slow %convert_months=('Jan','Dec', 'Feb','Jan', 'Mar','Feb', 'Apr','Mar', 'May','Apr', 'Jun','May', 'Jul','Jun', 'Aug','Jul', 'Sep','Aug', 'Oct','Sep', 'Nov','Oct', 'Dec','Nov'); $_ = "@ARGV"; # load $_ with arguments separated by a space ($lastMonth, $year) = (split(/[:\n]/, `date +%b:%Y`)); $month = $convert_months{$lastMonth}; s#\+(.*)%b(.*)#\1$month\2#; # interpolate %b to be last month s#(.*)%Y(.*)#\1$year\2#; # interpolate %Y to be this year print "$_\n"; # print the durned thing __END__ (This is not an example of Good Perl Coding. It's ugly, probably no one understands it but me, but hey, I wrote in in sixty seconds, and it works, so who cares?) Then, you can rewrite the crontab as: 0 0 1 * * (cd $HOME/mail; mv saved-messages `backdate +saved-messages-%b-%Y`) And that'll do what you want. Don't forget to include the full pathname for backdate unless you want to stick it in /usr/bin! (phew!) > - is there a reason I should try to get a new version of pine > installed? (Is there a newer version for the rs/6000?) More features, greater stability, faster mailbox opening...the only reason to stay away is the interrupted mail thing. > Thank you for your help! Hope I was some help and didn't send you running for the hills screaming blue murder! -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 8 21:04:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05906; Mon, 8 May 95 21:04:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18462; Mon, 8 May 95 20:57:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18456; Mon, 8 May 95 20:57:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8gPB-00038XC; Mon, 8 May 95 20:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Change return address ("From:") in Pine Date: 8 May 1995 14:08:41 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3oiqfd$n6b@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3okp4j$kd7@news.panix.com> Status: O X-Status: jca@netcom.com (James Armstrong) writes: >This is why there is a Reply-To field. It is possible to compile Pine so that user's can use the customized-hdrs variable to customized the From header. I don't think this would allow real forgery since other headers, like Sender, will give clues about the "true" sender. Nancy (using a fake From header with nn right now!) -- /\_/\ @..@ Please make sure your host gets the /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) new humanities.* newsgroups. Info ( o.o ) > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) is at http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 9 00:11:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09994; Tue, 9 May 95 00:11:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04943; Tue, 9 May 95 00:04:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04937; Tue, 9 May 95 00:04:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8jGl-00038XC; Mon, 8 May 95 23:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brennan@hahnemann.edu (Andrew Brennan) Subject: Pine & POP ? Date: 27 Apr 1995 13:40:50 GMT Message-Id: <3no6t2$5e3@cmi.hahnemann.edu> Status: O X-Status: I have mail coming into a system that only can act as a POP server ... Can (and if so, how) Pine access this or am I going to need to forward the mail to my local account?? andrew. (brennan@hal.hahnemann.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 9 01:13:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11504; Tue, 9 May 95 01:13:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21194; Tue, 9 May 95 01:06:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21188; Tue, 9 May 95 01:06:24 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 9 May 1995 09:03:08 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA14960; Tue, 9 May 1995 09:07:12 +0100 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 09:07:11 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Pine List Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 requested feature. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Yes please! It's murder trying to explain to neophyte users (whom Pine is otherwise excellent for) how to cancel a Usenet News article! Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On Sun, 7 May 1995, Christopher AWOL Curtis wrote: > Would it be possible to include a "Cancel Article" function in the News > section of Pine? I posted an article via Pine that wasn't recognized as mine > when I tried to Cancel it via nn, and I'd kinda have liked to do that. > > TIA > > T | Christopher Curtis | In order to understand | O > E | Sun Lab System Administrator | recursion, one must first | S > A | Florida Institute of Technology | understand recursion. | / > M | Melbourne, Florida N|N | 2 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 9 05:05:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17395; Tue, 9 May 95 05:05:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08687; Tue, 9 May 95 04:48:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08676; Tue, 9 May 95 04:48:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8nlZ-00038QC; Tue, 9 May 95 04:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lutz.Pressler@Unix.AMS.Medizin.Uni-Goettingen.DE (Lutz Pressler) Subject: Re: Unix Pine, news and organization header Date: 6 May 1995 18:16:48 GMT Message-Id: <3ogeeg$p01@gwdu19.gwdg.de> References: Status: O X-Status: John Davis (jbd@osbm.state.nc.us) wrote: : I have Pine 3.91 installed on a PC running Linux. I am using Pine to read and : post news with a nntp server I have access to. How can I set the Organization: : header that gets posted with the news article? It does not pickup the : organization from my /etc directory and I've also tried a setenv Organization. : What shows up is the organization for my nntp server, which is not what I : want. Try _A_ddding under "customized-hdrs" in _S_etup _C_onfiguration something like Organization: my org goes here That will be used in mails, too - but probably that's ok, isn't it? Hope that helps, Lutz -- Lutz Pre"sler Systemverwaltung -- Abt. Medizinische Statistik, Universit"at G"ottingen Humboldtallee 32, D-37073 G"ottingen, Tel.: +49(0551) 39-4956 FAX: -4995 [PGP-key:WWW&keys.] IRC:lp From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 9 05:21:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17754; Tue, 9 May 95 05:21:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23893; Tue, 9 May 95 05:10:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23887; Tue, 9 May 95 05:10:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8o4j-00038QC; Tue, 9 May 95 05:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Q: odd delays in pine Date: 9 May 1995 02:28:11 GMT Message-Id: <3omjvr$1in3@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3omjdm$1imr@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <3omjdm$1imr@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, Trey Harris wrote: >Then, you can rewrite the crontab as: >0 0 1 * * (cd $HOME/mail; mv saved-messages `backdate +saved-messages-%b-%Y`) After all that, I make a mistake. Oh, what a comedy of errors my life is. That should be: 0 0 1 * * (cd $HOME/mail; mv saved-messages `backdate +saved-messages-\%b-\%Y`) (Betcha didn't know that a percent sign is a special character in a crontab, didja? :) -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 9 06:18:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18902; Tue, 9 May 95 06:18:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09764; Tue, 9 May 95 06:09:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09758; Tue, 9 May 95 06:09:03 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id JAA16825 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 09:09:02 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA32754; Tue, 9 May 1995 09:08:59 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA15651; Tue, 9 May 95 09:07:34 EDT Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 09:07:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Mike Gerhard Subject: INBOX startup anomoly Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I got the following message from a local pine user: >For some strange reason now, when I run Pine on mmansys and select Index, >it goes into the middle or front section of my mailbox rather than >the end. Any ideas? He is on a SPARC with Sun OS and Pine 3.90. His INBOX contains over 3000 messages. (I'm trying to convince him to do some wholesale deleting and saving.) It's my gut feeling that his anomoly is caused by the large number of messages in the INBOX. Can anyone tell me what is happening? TIA, Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 9 07:44:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20786; Tue, 9 May 95 07:44:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10810; Tue, 9 May 95 07:25:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10804; Tue, 9 May 95 07:25:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8qA7-00038QC; Tue, 9 May 95 07:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Change return address ("From:") in Pine Date: 8 May 1995 16:57:52 GMT Message-Id: <3oliig$3rk@news.ysu.edu> References: <3oiqfd$n6b@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3okp4j$kd7@news.panix.com> Status: O X-Status: In a previous article, jca@netcom.com (James Armstrong) says: >In article <3okp4j$kd7@news.panix.com> mark@ephesus.com (Mark Swearingen) writes: >>it would be convenient to set the return address at one >>location to the other address, so that all return mail came to one location. >>Thus, there is a "legitimate" use for such a feature. > >This is why there is a Reply-To field. And a good field it is. Unfortunately, it can't be counted on 100% of the time to get your replies sent where you want them to go. Take the pine-info mailing list -- if I post to Usenet, like here, the Reply-To: field I insert here is not passed through the gateway to the mail recipients. Likewise the mail participants with Reply-To: headers fail to have them seen by news. That's a minor problem, but perhaps more serious are those gateways which fail to attach importance to this header, which includes a number of X.400 to SMTP gateways. I've been trying to figure out why I don't seem to communicate with a particular victim on the other side of an X.400 mail system, and I've just discovered that it's pretty common for replies to go to the From: address in SMTP rather than the Reply-To: address when those replies originate on an X.400 system. This would be a minor problem were I not to be hacking on machines that don't exist in DNS with logins I don't have with any ISP. Try to find root@squeamish.ossifrage.msen.com if you like. And of course, if someone chooses to reply to the From: header... I'm not advocating a configurable From: field for all, because the Reply-To: field should work. I just want to alert people to some cases where broken software prevents it from working as intended. -- Barry Bouwsma, will crash computers for chocolate and dental care Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) In a blindfolded taste test, 4 of 5 newsreaders could not tell the difference between Spam and Velveeta... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 9 08:11:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21549; Tue, 9 May 95 08:11:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25846; Tue, 9 May 95 07:55:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25840; Tue, 9 May 95 07:55:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8qdK-00038QC; Tue, 9 May 95 07:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tompkins@earth.cnct.com Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: 9 May 1995 12:19:24 GMT Message-Id: <3onmkc$f36@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Status: O X-Status: Article canceled by 0.4.0.1(bioc) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 9 08:47:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23312; Tue, 9 May 95 08:47:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26556; Tue, 9 May 95 08:34:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26550; Tue, 9 May 95 08:34:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8rE1-00038QC; Tue, 9 May 95 08:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Re: Sorting mailing list mail? Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 10:44:41 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3onpp4$v75@hermes.acs.ryerson.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3onpp4$v75@hermes.acs.ryerson.ca> Status: O X-Status: On 9 May 1995, Roberts Freimuts wrote: > Date: 9 MAY 1995 13:13:08 GMT > From: Roberts Freimuts > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Sorting mailing list mail? > > Most mail that comes from a mailing list has not only a "From:" > line in the header but also a ":Reply to:" line. > > Could this fact be used to sort the private mail received by Pine from > the mail coming via a mailing list. > [...] This is essentially the frequent question about filtering mail based on criteria so that mailing list messages go one way and regular, "personal mail" messages go another. As has been noted, there are various ways to accomplish this *outside* of Pine, which does not do mail filtering by itself. Unfortunately you did not say what kind of system you are running on (Unix, PC-Pine, whatever), and the techniques will differ accordingly. (If you are on Unix and have procmail available, it should be fairly easy, although I have not experimented to see whether procmail can process based on a "Reply-to: line.) Nancy McGough's mail filtering FAQ is a good place to start. It is available at: ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering_mail_faq.txt ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq (Send me an email if you have problems getting hold of it.) Paul From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 9 08:49:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23424; Tue, 9 May 95 08:49:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11769; Tue, 9 May 95 08:19:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11763; Tue, 9 May 95 08:19:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8r2g-00038XC; Tue, 9 May 95 08:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Re: Pico configuration question.. Message-Id: Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 09:51:16 -0600 References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 4 May 1995, Tom wrote: | Date: Thu, 4 MAY 1995 21:09:44 -0700 | From: Tom | Newgroups: comp.mail.pine | Subject: Pico configuration question.. | | Can Pico be set up up so that when you save a file by typing | ctrl-O, it won't ask for the name of the file to save to, but | automatically save to whatever the name is of the file thats open? | tom@ssc.com | | - From the man page: -t Enable "tool" mode. Intended for when pico is used as the editor within other tools (e.g., Elm, Pnews). Pico will not prompt for save on exit, and will not rename the buffer during the "Write Out" command. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 Comment: Processed by mkpgp1.1.4, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAgUBL6n09eBu0383Om6dAQET3AP/TNfz3m1D2MCO4H303H+2su+C0K/rTXdg tZr8b8V9QyumNAoHR1Te1/mpXDJQppjsrrxDJcdQJuvspGLj3uIx5U84JUsWV5qS OCYZEJgiIJTOJtt6TWfn2hGSnQ8vdsXE1v5b8MRxBTdZHjhAUDR+7eQYYkRumONr qjiLclGPdJk= =YVpL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka "The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 9 08:54:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23704; Tue, 9 May 95 08:54:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26881; Tue, 9 May 95 08:47:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from atlantic.kutztown.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26873; Tue, 9 May 95 08:47:51 -0700 Received: by atlantic (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA13890; Tue, 9 May 1995 11:45:18 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 11:45:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lisa M. Frye" X-Sender: frye@atlantic To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Printing in Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: When our users print an e-mail message from pine to an "attached-to-ansi" printer (some local and some network printers - most of them laser) two problems occur. 1) For messages which exceed one page, a line is normally lost as the printer does the formfeed. 2) An extra page is printed at the end with. It either has "[4i" on it or is blank (yes, formfeed is turned off and pine is the only application which gives the extra blank page) Any helps or hints would be appreciated. Thanks in Advance! Lisa Frye frye@kutztown.edu Network Software Specialist LMS Annex Room 105 Kutztown University phone: 610-683-4474 Kutztown, PA. 19530 fax: 610-683-4634 "Gossip: The only thing that travels faster than e-mail." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 9 09:06:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24768; Tue, 9 May 95 09:06:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12478; Tue, 9 May 95 08:49:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12472; Tue, 9 May 95 08:49:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8rVz-00038QC; Tue, 9 May 95 08:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbd@osbm.state.nc.us (John Davis) Subject: Unix Pine, news and organization header Message-Id: Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 18:06:41 GMT Status: O X-Status: I have Pine 3.91 installed on a PC running Linux. I am using Pine to read and post news with a nntp server I have access to. How can I set the Organization: header that gets posted with the news article? It does not pickup the organization from my /etc directory and I've also tried a setenv Organization. What shows up is the organization for my nntp server, which is not what I want. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Davis jbd@osbm.state.nc.us Information Systems Manager http://www.osbm.state.nc.us/OSBM/ Office of State Budget and Management 116 W. Jones St. Raleigh, N.C. 27603 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 9 09:33:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25888; Tue, 9 May 95 09:33:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27840; Tue, 9 May 95 09:25:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27834; Tue, 9 May 95 09:25:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8s0W-00038QC; Tue, 9 May 95 09:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrea@pX1.stfx.ca (John Andrea) Subject: Re: Silly question Date: 9 May 1995 12:41:11 -0300 Message-Id: References: <3nlglq$igb@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> <3nlinf$p2u@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: >: Why is pine called pine? >I think they are following the convention of naming the MUA >after street names. elm, pine - what next? spruce, walnut, >chestnut...... >Madhu There already is a 'spruce', its an Xmail interface but i don't think its become very popular (or is that poplar!) -- __________________________________________________________________ John Andrea St. Francis Xavier Univ. University Computer Services Antigonish, NS, CANADA B2G 2W5 http://www.stfx.ca/people/jandrea/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 9 11:07:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04969; Tue, 9 May 95 11:07:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20687; Tue, 9 May 95 10:44:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20681; Tue, 9 May 95 10:44:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8tK0-00038XC; Tue, 9 May 95 10:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsa0001@jove.acs.unt.edu (James Scott Allen) Subject: cmsg cancel <3ok6g9$38f@hermes.unt.edu> Control: cancel <3ok6g9$38f@hermes.unt.edu> Date: 8 May 1995 17:17:19 GMT Message-Id: <3oljmv$fj4@hermes.unt.edu> Status: O X-Status: cancel <3ok6g9$38f@hermes.unt.edu> in newsgroup comp.mail.pine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 9 12:21:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08529; Tue, 9 May 95 12:21:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01574; Tue, 9 May 95 12:10:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01568; Tue, 9 May 95 12:10:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8ueR-00038QC; Tue, 9 May 95 12:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: freimuts@acs.ryerson.ca (Roberts Freimuts) Subject: Sorting mailing list mail? Date: 9 May 1995 13:13:08 GMT Message-Id: <3onpp4$v75@hermes.acs.ryerson.ca> Status: O X-Status: Most mail that comes from a mailing list has not only a "From:" line in the header but also a ":Reply to:" line. Could this fact be used to sort the private mail received by Pine from the mail coming via a mailing list. I want to read the mailing list mail, that is why I subscribe to the mailing list, but it would be nice to read my private mail first. Also might it be possible to group all mail from one mailing list together? The ultimate would be an incoming mail file with personal mail first followed by mailing list mail grouped by mailing lists. Is that possible? How? Thank you for any help Roberts Freimuts From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 9 13:37:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11758; Tue, 9 May 95 13:37:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03266; Tue, 9 May 95 13:29:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from apollo.connex.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03260; Tue, 9 May 95 13:29:29 -0700 Received: by apollo.connex.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0s8vu4-0008FLC; Tue, 9 May 95 13:29 PDT Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 13:29:12 -47900 From: "Robert F. Scheifer" Subject: PC-Pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Please send me information regarding PC-Pine and how to obtain it. Thank you. ================ Rob Scheifer rfs@connex.com ================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 9 13:53:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12247; Tue, 9 May 95 13:53:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24979; Tue, 9 May 95 13:44:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24973; Tue, 9 May 95 13:44:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8w6d-00038QC; Tue, 9 May 95 13:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eon@crl.com (Erin A. O'Neill) Subject: Re: filtering, once and for all Date: 9 May 1995 13:28:35 -0700 Message-Id: <3ooj9j$5p9@crl.crl.com> References: <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: You all posted some nice info on mail headers & pine but if I understand the question right it's how do you filter ? In the pine docs & manual it says you gotta get another software to filter & most sites offer the elm filter (at the Unix prompt type which filter) I set up a filter to send my listEmail to different folders to separate my work Email from my list Email. If you are interested in the gory details send me Email & I'll send you the how-tos. erin eon@crl.com -- erin eon@crl.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 9 14:05:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12849; Tue, 9 May 95 14:05:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03846; Tue, 9 May 95 13:59:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03840; Tue, 9 May 95 13:59:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8wIw-00038QC; Tue, 9 May 95 13:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Reply To: in text? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 09:18:03 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Can I get the "Reply To:" line into the text of the message when I reply? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 Comment: Processed by mkpgp1.1.4, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAgUBL68zHeBu0383Om6dAQG1+gP8DI7PZYAwBX3hCVASacqSvCP6fw0Xyh3J 9icHVpcrPIPiJti+gE6Zq2qfMWx2OuKVoyoBtu4Rik5ONPoomLIbGAKus/QxNxNs LZx7Q53NkCaEk4pf3qFBbYTXHjza1UAoH/F8azDLjSjn1m7EfFMil4X0AZLQacLL obegjQIdV30= =KiXT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka "The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 9 14:55:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15276; Tue, 9 May 95 14:55:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26460; Tue, 9 May 95 14:49:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rocoto.aug.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26454; Tue, 9 May 95 14:49:04 -0700 Received: (from plardner@localhost) by rocoto.aug.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id RAA17202; Tue, 9 May 1995 17:49:12 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 17:49:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Lardner To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Tagging Files in Pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to tag a series of files that one wishes to save to a single folder so that the save can be done in a single operation? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 9 16:37:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19745; Tue, 9 May 95 16:37:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28833; Tue, 9 May 95 16:31:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Farstar.secapl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28827; Tue, 9 May 95 16:31:14 -0700 Received: from fred.secapl.com (fred.secapl.com [192.131.46.4]) by Farstar.secapl.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id SAA238840; Tue, 9 May 1995 18:24:48 -0500 Received: by fred.secapl.com id AA240904 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Tue, 9 May 1995 19:26:53 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 19:26:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Anthony Iannotti To: Kevin Yeung Cc: Aladdin Khamis , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Silly question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Pine Is Not Elm On Sat, 29 Apr 1995, Kevin Yeung wrote: > On Thu, 27 Apr 1995, Aladdin Khamis wrote: > > > On Wed, 26 Apr 1995, Isaac Hepworth wrote: > > > > > > Why is pine called pine? > > > > > Pine(tm) --a Program for Internet News & Email-- is a tool for reading, > > That's fun. Versions before 3.91 can't handle news, if I'm not mistaken. > > -- > Kevin Yeung > email: keviny@hk.super.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 9 17:54:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23023; Tue, 9 May 95 17:54:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00739; Tue, 9 May 95 17:48:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00733; Tue, 9 May 95 17:48:44 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id UAA21761; Tue, 9 May 1995 20:48:25 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id UAA12751; Tue, 9 May 1995 20:47:53 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA22607; Tue, 9 May 95 20:46:09 EDT Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 20:46:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Peter Lardner Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Tagging Files in Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 9 May 1995, Peter Lardner wrote: > > Is it possible to tag a series of files that one wishes to save to a > single folder so that the save can be done in a single operation? > Speaking for Pine 3.91, select the files you want to save with the select command (;), which must be enabled in the pine configuration file (main menu Setup Configuration). Select based on your requirements. For example, to select all messages from pine-info: ; select t text a all pine-info The save to a folder: a apply s save pine Then delete them (if you do not have delete on save enabled) a apply d delete Then expunge x expunge You do all this from the index. Goo luck. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 9 18:41:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24190; Tue, 9 May 95 18:41:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01466; Tue, 9 May 95 18:36:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01460; Tue, 9 May 95 18:36:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s90du-00038fC; Tue, 9 May 95 18:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: swald@cde2s.ssc.wisc.edu (Sandra Wald) Subject: Pine distribution list Date: 8 May 1995 19:10:49 GMT Message-Id: <3olqbp$2ac2@news.doit.wisc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Does anyone know how to use a distribution list in Pine so that when mail is sent not everyone's individual address from the distribution list is listed in the outgoing to: header? thank you, Sandra -- Sandra J. Wald swald@ssc.wisc.edu (608) 265-4922 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 9 18:59:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24528; Tue, 9 May 95 18:59:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09205; Tue, 9 May 95 18:51:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09197; Tue, 9 May 95 18:51:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s90qH-00038gC; Tue, 9 May 95 18:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: filtering, once and for all Date: 8 May 1995 19:26:10 GMT Message-Id: <3olr8i$12g1@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com> <3ojidp$1l6b@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3ojs0h$sec@news.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: In article <3ojs0h$sec@news.primenet.com>, Bob Brody wrote: >Consequently, where I use Internet services that don't present an index >of mail via Pine, I get an Inbox that might look like this: > > ADA-LAW@vm1.nodak Filing deadlines > outdoor-L@ulkyvm trash bins > outdoor-L@ulkyvm RE: trash bins > Shannon Brody Hi, Dad > ODP-L@tamvm1 Slant drilling mishap > >Whereas via Pine: > > Brent Wilson Filing deadlines > Ellen Smith trash bins > Scott McIntyre RE: trash bins > Shannon Brody Hi, Dad > Bill Whitman Slant drilling mishap > >And when I have many Inbox screens filled with sometimes hundreds of >mails arrived, it's just much easier to note the real source of the >mail, the list, to distinguish what's what and from where. From "whom" >is not the source lest it's a personal email and to present just a >person's name doesn't help when it's coming from a listserv because the >mail is really not "to me." So I respectfully disagree with your view >as to the origin of an email. See, that's the clincher. It isn't coming *from* a listserv, it's coming *from* Brent Wilson and Ellen Smith and Scott McIntyre, just like "Hi, Dad" is coming from Shannon Brody. The difference is that in some mail-user agents, if the To: line is not specifically to you (and the Cc: line also is not specifically to you) then the index field that usually shows "From" shows To: instead. Another possibility is that the mail-user agent you're used to uses the "From " line rather than the "From:" header (which is actually strictly against RFC822, since the "From " line is a Unix convention rather than anything having to do with the mail-transport protocols). Either way, it's really a matter of preference, but I prefer the way Pine does it because if I'm on, say, the Perl Developers list, I'd definitely want to immediately read a post from Larry Wall, the author of Perl, entitled "New feature for Perl?". I wouldn't feel the same immediacy to read a post with the same subject line from someone I've never heard of, since they're probably just making a suggestion. Perhaps choosing the behavior (either a toggle button to switch between To: lines and From: lines, or a pine config variable that would allow the user to pick between the above behaviors) would be a nice addition to Pine? >But the To line is not what's listed in my Inbox index screen, the >person the mail is from is what's listed. OTOH, if there's a Pine >setting that will show me the To: line rather than the From: line when >I view my Inbox index, then perhaps that's precisely what I'm after and >I haven't configured Pine properly to do it. Well, yes. I didn't mean you should *look* at the To: header with your eyes per se, just "look" at it with whatever tools. So, for instance (assuming you have enable-aggregate-command-set checked in your config variables), you can type ";" (Select), "T" (Text), "T" (To), "ziffle-bang" (name of list), , "Z" (Zoom), and now you'll see all the messages in the ziffle-bang list. >Remains, however, to be able to distinguish various listserv mailings >but in fact I'm not as concerned about that now that I'm reminded of >the efficacy of the plus sign. Thanks for the reply. Just keep doing the above for each list, and you can read each list in sequence rather than all jumbled together. To select your personal mail, just type "brody" instead of a list name in the above. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 10 00:59:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03130; Wed, 10 May 95 00:59:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13326; Wed, 10 May 95 00:38:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13320; Wed, 10 May 95 00:38:25 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA22039; Wed, 10 May 95 09:36:36 +0200 Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 09:36:36 +0200 (METDST) From: "Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD?=)" To: The Pine Discussion List Subject: Log file of ipopd Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: Hallo! Is it possible to change the severity (I am not sure if it is a proper word) of ipopd so that I can define a different log file for ipopd in syslog.conf? Thanks a lot for any answer. V. S. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz Europe Files (with description!) place to ftp://ftp.utia.cas.cz/pub/income/vs Maybe valid: http://www.utia.cas.cz/home/WWW/data/user_data/vs/vs-home.http From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 10 02:23:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05539; Wed, 10 May 95 02:23:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08055; Wed, 10 May 95 02:16:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08049; Wed, 10 May 95 02:16:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s97qz-00038ZC; Wed, 10 May 95 02:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Log file of ipopd Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 01:24:45 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 10 May 1995, Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD?=) wrote: > Is it possible to change the severity (I am not sure if it is a proper > word) of ipopd so that I can define a different log file for ipopd in > syslog.conf? Thanks a lot for any answer. In ipop2d.c and ipop3d.c, you can change the openlog() calls from LOG_MAIL to some other facility. Do "man 3 syslog" for more information on how to go about doing this. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 10 04:27:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09050; Wed, 10 May 95 04:27:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15937; Wed, 10 May 95 04:15:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15931; Wed, 10 May 95 04:15:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s99fp-00038QC; Wed, 10 May 95 04:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: krishna@primenet.com (Glenn Saunders) Subject: Filter mult exececute line Date: 10 May 1995 09:15:31 GMT Message-Id: <3oq07k$1bh@news.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: I can't seem to get filter to execute multiple commands. if bla bla bla then execute " (cli command) " That's the syntax basically, so if I do this, it executes both commands: execute "echo test1 > test.txt;echo test2 >> test.txt" but if I do this it only executes the first half: execute "cat - > reply.txt;reply" (in this case, - means it sends the body of the message, and reply is a cli script file) The reason this is important is I'm trying to build a pseudo-mailing list, and when you post, it will save the post to a file, then run a script that emails that text file to everyone on the list. I can't just run a script because I can't reference the body of the incoming message from within the script, only from within the execute quotes (well I'll give it a shot but I doubt it'll work). Any solutions? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 10 04:33:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09174; Wed, 10 May 95 04:33:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16001; Wed, 10 May 95 04:21:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15995; Wed, 10 May 95 04:21:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s99oS-00038QC; Wed, 10 May 95 04:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: arichard@cse.unl.edu (Anthony Richards) Subject: Pine have an FTP location? Date: 9 May 1995 04:20:35 GMT Message-Id: <3omqik$8ss@crcnis3.unl.edu> Status: O X-Status: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 10 04:36:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09230; Wed, 10 May 95 04:36:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09793; Wed, 10 May 95 04:16:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09787; Wed, 10 May 95 04:16:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s99iH-00038ZC; Wed, 10 May 95 04:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Silly question Date: 9 May 1995 22:16:06 -0700 Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: Actually I think it started out meaning "Pine Is Nearly Elm" and then became "Program for Internet News & Mail." Some history is at Laurence's Home Page: Naming Pine: http://oneworld.wa.com/laurence/pine.html I like "Pine is Nicer than Elm" because I think it is (and I used Elm for many years). -Nancy tony@secapl.com (Anthony Iannotti) writes: >Pine >Is >Not >Elm > >On Sat, 29 Apr 1995, Kevin Yeung wrote: >> On Thu, 27 Apr 1995, Aladdin Khamis wrote: >> > On Wed, 26 Apr 1995, Isaac Hepworth wrote: >> > > >> > > Why is pine called pine? >> > > >> > Pine(tm) --a Program for Internet News & Email-- is a tool for reading, -- /\_/\ @..@ Please make sure your host gets the /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) new humanities.* newsgroups. Info ( o.o ) > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) is at http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 10 06:30:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13131; Wed, 10 May 95 06:30:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17359; Wed, 10 May 95 06:16:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17353; Wed, 10 May 95 06:16:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9BbD-00038QC; Wed, 10 May 95 06:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert Porter Subject: PC PINE Help need Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 16:41:09 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Everytime I logon to Pine, I get messages across the bottom of the screen saying it can't open various folders (INBOx, etc.). After it tells me all this I hit enter and can then find newsgroups. Is there some configuration I could do to use other functions in Pine besides reading newsgroups? Please e-mail. Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 10 08:27:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17779; Wed, 10 May 95 08:27:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13668; Wed, 10 May 95 08:17:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13660; Wed, 10 May 95 08:17:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9DRR-00038QC; Wed, 10 May 95 08:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mfoley@infinet.com (Mark Foley) Subject: pine: user-domain Date: 10 May 1995 05:28:53 GMT Message-Id: <3opiul$578@horus.infinet.com> Status: O X-Status: OK pine experts, I need help. I have a Sales/Marketing weenie in my office who uses a Mac and doesn't understand good 'ole command line 'mail'. So I have told him to use 'pine'. This works OK for reading mail, but pine wants to stick our domain name on all sent messages. Our domain name is 'novatec', so all this guy's Reply-to: addresses are dave@novatec. For mail sent outside our domain, we use a uucp mail server via dialup. With regular mail, return addresses on the mail are just the user name (no domain) and either sendmail, or the remote mail server knows to put @novatec.ascinet.com on the end of the user name to create the return address. However, it seems that if there is already a domain name on the return address, that name is kept. So, bottom line is this. When I send mail to a local user on our domain using 'mail', the From address is: mfoley and when I send this message to a remote user the From address is: mfoley@novatec.ascinet.com When our sales guy using pine sends to a local user the From address is: dave@novatec and when he sends to a remote user the From address is also: dave@novatec Needless to say, any mail of Dave's which is replyed to bounces. How do I fix this? I have tried changing user-domain and use-only-domain-name in the .pinerc file with no effect. In fact, I always get user-domain= when I do pine -conf, regardless of what I set the value to. I do not have a system-wide pinerc, even though the pine -conf says I do in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf (this file doesn't exist). What's my problem? Please email advice. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 10 09:29:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20596; Wed, 10 May 95 09:29:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20635; Wed, 10 May 95 09:20:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from infomagic.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20629; Wed, 10 May 95 09:20:41 -0700 Received: from Future.InfoMagic.COM by Boris.infomagic.com (5.65c+IDA/FvK-1.50) with SMTP id AA23856; Wed, 10 May 1995 10:16:43 -0600 Received: by Future.InfoMagic.COM (MagicNET QRmail 1.1.3) id AA0003E7; Wed May 10 11:22:24 1995 Received: by Future.InfoMagic.COM (5.67b8+IDA/FvK-2.00) id AA15173; Wed, 10 May 1995 11:22:22 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 11:22:22 -0500 (CDT) From: System Admin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug report: newmail notification Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Ok, I'm seeing a big* mess when pine receives new mail. elm seems to read it fine, but pine's not reading the inbox properly somehow...and crashing. I've witnessed it while in the composer and getting MORE than one letter. The first letter notifies properly, but any letters after that cause the crash. Reporting my findings as I see them. :) -- Brian Davidson IRC Administration Tech Support Desk bjd@InfoMagic.COM irc-adm@InfoMagic.COM support@InfoMagic.COM InfoMagic, Inc "... We're Simply The Best !" Tech support numbers: P.O. Box 30370 +1-602-526-9852 (PHONE) Flagstaff, AZ 86003-0370 +1-602-526-9573 (FAX) ************************************************************************* * The Future (a 24-hour chat system): telnet Toybox.InfoMagic.COM 4321 * ************************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 10 09:57:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21911; Wed, 10 May 95 09:57:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21140; Wed, 10 May 95 09:44:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21132; Wed, 10 May 95 09:44:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9Eo8-00038ZC; Wed, 10 May 95 09:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: h2so4@uclink2.berkeley.edu (Top Gun) Subject: Auto Reply to a Particular Address? Date: 9 May 1995 07:01:29 GMT Message-Id: <3on409$phf@agate.berkeley.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi- How do I go about setting up an automated reply to mail from a particular address. For instance, if "president@whitehouse.gov" regularly flames me and I want to send an auto reply (that I specify) everytime my account gets mail from this address. Is this possible? -- ============================================================================= Harpreet Ahluwalia E-Mail : h2so4@uclink2.Berkeley.Edu University of California, Berkeley harpreet@CSUA.Berkeley.Edu >>>>>>>>>>>> WWW : http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~harpreet/ <<<<<<<<<<<<<< From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 10 11:25:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25712; Wed, 10 May 95 11:25:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23022; Wed, 10 May 95 11:18:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from infomagic.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23014; Wed, 10 May 95 11:18:43 -0700 Received: from Future.InfoMagic.COM by Boris.infomagic.com (5.65c+IDA/FvK-1.50) with SMTP id AA28507; Wed, 10 May 1995 12:14:44 -0600 Received: by Future.InfoMagic.COM (MagicNET QRmail 1.1.3) id AA0003F0; Wed May 10 13:20:27 1995 Received: by Future.InfoMagic.COM (5.67b8+IDA/FvK-2.00) id AA17202; Wed, 10 May 1995 13:20:26 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 13:20:25 -0500 (CDT) From: System Admin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: newmail bug = no bug Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Ok, I found out the culpret. Oddly enough, having a symbolic link from 'mail' to anothr directory is what the problem was. You may want to check into it anyway, as I'm sure others are having the same problem. Pine 3.91 works fine for me now that I use mail (as specified in my config). :) -- Brian Davidson IRC Administration Tech Support Desk bjd@InfoMagic.COM irc-adm@InfoMagic.COM support@InfoMagic.COM InfoMagic, Inc "... We're Simply The Best !" Tech support numbers: P.O. Box 30370 +1-602-526-9852 (PHONE) Flagstaff, AZ 86003-0370 +1-602-526-9573 (FAX) ************************************************************************* * The Future (a 24-hour chat system): telnet Toybox.InfoMagic.COM 4321 * ************************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 10 11:37:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26404; Wed, 10 May 95 11:37:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18251; Wed, 10 May 95 11:30:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18245; Wed, 10 May 95 11:30:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9GP9-00038ZC; Wed, 10 May 95 11:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dsacks@primenet.com (Dennis Sacks) Subject: MacIntosh version of Pine? Date: 9 May 1995 15:42:56 GMT Message-Id: <3oo2i0$oa1@news4.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: Sorry if this is a faq, but is there a Mac version of pine? Dennis dsacks@primenet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 10 13:05:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01611; Wed, 10 May 95 13:05:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25262; Wed, 10 May 95 12:52:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25256; Wed, 10 May 95 12:52:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9Ho1-00038ZC; Wed, 10 May 95 12:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Q: odd delays in pine Date: 9 May 1995 03:13:57 GMT Message-Id: <3ommll$q4g@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3omjdm$1imr@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <3omjdm$1imr@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, Trey Harris wrote: >You could always write a Perl script called backdate: >#!/usr/bin/perl Someone mailed me mentioning that the Perl script I posted had a bug in that in January 1996 it would save the file as "saved-messages-Dec-1996". Someone else mentioned that I should have switched the names of the $lastMonth and $month variables. Sheesh, you people are impossible! :) But here's a fix...(I am not supporting this thing. You learn Perl and support it yourself. :) #!/usr/bin/perl # backdate--simple date formatter running a month slow %convert_months=('Jan','Dec', 'Feb','Jan', 'Mar','Feb', 'Apr','Mar', 'May','Apr', 'Jun','May', 'Jul','Jun', 'Aug','Jul', 'Sep','Aug', 'Oct','Sep', 'Nov','Oct', 'Dec','Nov'); $_ = "@ARGV"; # load $_ with arguments separated by a space ($month, $year) = (split(/[:\n]/, `date +%b:%Y`)); $year-- if $month eq 'Jan'; $lastMonth = $convert_months{$month}; s#\+(.*)%b(.*)#\1$lastMonth\2#; # interpolate %b to be last month s#(.*)%Y(.*)#\1$year\2#; # interpolate %Y to be this year print "$_\n"; # print the durned thing __END__ -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 10 13:47:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03550; Wed, 10 May 95 13:47:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22021; Wed, 10 May 95 13:37:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22015; Wed, 10 May 95 13:37:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9IQy-00038ZC; Wed, 10 May 95 13:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: doom Subject: Cutting Text Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 14:40:03 GMT Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O X-Status: I have probably overlooked this someplace, but as a new user of pine, I would like to know if there is a way to cut large portions of text from a message reply, or fwd, rather than one page at a time... And a way to go to the end of a message from any point. Thanks... _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ Another Great Message By EMAIL: DOOM@WCHAT.ON.CA _/ _/ DOOM World Chat: Burlington, Ontario Canada _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 10 14:24:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05200; Wed, 10 May 95 14:24:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27515; Wed, 10 May 95 14:14:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from infomagic.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27509; Wed, 10 May 95 14:14:31 -0700 Received: from Future.InfoMagic.COM by Boris.infomagic.com (5.65c+IDA/FvK-1.50) with SMTP id AA05249; Wed, 10 May 1995 15:10:32 -0600 Received: by Future.InfoMagic.COM (MagicNET QRmail 1.1.3) id AA0003F3; Wed May 10 16:16:16 1995 Received: by Future.InfoMagic.COM (5.67b8+IDA/FvK-2.00) id AA19377; Wed, 10 May 1995 16:16:15 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 16:16:14 -0500 (CDT) From: System Admin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: There IS a bug in Pine... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I went back to v3.90 of Pine, and am having similar results, this time, simply triggered while sending a message...failed with no such file or directory, then error opening INBOX, and then when I tried to quit: Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". Exiting pine. IOT trap I'm still using Linux (1.2.4), and this problem is causing me to resurt back to elm, w/o mime support and all the nicities of Pine. Let me know what I should do... -- Brian Davidson IRC Administration Tech Support Desk bjd@InfoMagic.COM irc-adm@InfoMagic.COM support@InfoMagic.COM InfoMagic, Inc "... We're Simply The Best !" Tech support numbers: P.O. Box 30370 +1-602-526-9852 (PHONE) Flagstaff, AZ 86003-0370 +1-602-526-9573 (FAX) ************************************************************************* * The Future (a 24-hour chat system): telnet Toybox.InfoMagic.COM 4321 * ************************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 10 17:46:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15822; Wed, 10 May 95 17:46:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01881; Wed, 10 May 95 17:18:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01875; Wed, 10 May 95 17:18:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9Lt4-00038fC; Wed, 10 May 95 17:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: qed!mccarthj@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Julie A. McCarthy) Subject: Automatic deletion Date: 10 May 1995 20:46:02 GMT Message-Id: <3or8ma$5lo@knot.queensu.ca> Status: O X-Status: Has anyone else had a problem with PINE arbitrarily marking messages for deletion? When leaving one folder and opening another I am asked if I want to delete one or two messages from the last folder I was in. I have not requested that these messages be deleted, and in many instances it is not that I have even so much as moved the cursor onto the message to look at it. This problem does not occur each time - maybe every 5 or 6 times I move from one folder to another. Pine will not delete the file if I say no to the question and I can go back to the folder and remove the delete indicator. This has been happening for about three weeks and the only thing that I think I may have changed in that time is that I added another editor to my PINE (vi) which I am not using. I'm using Pine 3.91 and aix 3.2.5 on an RS6000. I've asked the more frequent users of our system and no one else has this problem. I have about 52 folders. I do not have a limited disk space, and there is no sweap going on on our machine getting rid of old mail (and as I said the messages seem to be chosen at random). Any ideas? --Julie ============================================================================== Julie A. McCarthy PHONE: (613) 545-2260 Departmental Assistant FAX: (613) 545-6668 Department of Economics E-MAIL: mccarthj@qed.econ.queensu.ca Queen's University HOME PAGE: http://qed.econ.queensu.ca Kingston, Ontario K7L 3N6 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 10 18:25:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16696; Wed, 10 May 95 18:25:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28901; Wed, 10 May 95 18:18:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28895; Wed, 10 May 95 18:18:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9Mpt-00038fC; Wed, 10 May 95 18:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Richards Subject: Re: suggestion Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 14:32:46 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: I agree with John's Suggestion. It is very not to be able to change the print command on the fly. I usually filter my printing through a postscript formatter, sometimes, I would like to print the file differently. No easy way now. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Richards Xylogics, Inc. 53 Third Avenue / Burlington MA 01803-4491 Fax: On 28 Apr 1995, John Andrea wrote: > Heres a suggestion for printers, > instead of just locking in a single configuration how about during > the print command allowing for an option to modify the current print > command. > So that if it comes up with lpr -Pprinter > the options are yes no and modify, and selecting modify allows you to > change the name of the printer for this message. > -- > __________________________________________________________________ > John Andrea St. Francis Xavier Univ. > University Computer Services Antigonish, NS, CANADA B2G 2W5 > http://www.stfx.ca/people/jandrea/ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 10 20:12:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19297; Wed, 10 May 95 20:12:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03993; Wed, 10 May 95 20:05:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03987; Wed, 10 May 95 20:05:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9OTx-00038kC; Wed, 10 May 95 20:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rklassen@access.mbnet.mb.ca (Richard P. Klassen) Subject: how do i use a different usenet site??? Date: 11 May 1995 00:56:46 GMT Message-Id: <3ornce$35r@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> Status: O X-Status: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 10 21:24:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21122; Wed, 10 May 95 21:24:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01641; Wed, 10 May 95 21:18:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01635; Wed, 10 May 95 21:18:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9PdA-00038fC; Wed, 10 May 95 21:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Abraham Gutman Subject: Following Threads: Possible for 3.92? Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 13:53:17 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Will V3.92 have a capability to do threaded news reading? It would be very useful. If this is already possible (V3.91) can someone let me know how? Thanks. Abraham From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 10 21:30:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21371; Wed, 10 May 95 21:30:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04893; Wed, 10 May 95 21:23:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04887; Wed, 10 May 95 21:23:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9Pi8-00038ZC; Wed, 10 May 95 21:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Subject: newgroup comp.mail.pine Control: newgroup comp.mail.pine Message-Id: <800145720.7802@uunet.uu.net> Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 22:42:00 GMT Status: O X-Status: comp.mail.pine is an unmoderated newsgroup which passed its vote for creation by 421:19 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 20 May 1994. For your newsgroups file: comp.mail.pine The PINE mail user agent. The charter, culled from the call for votes: This group is for discussion about use and development of the Pine mail/news user agent developed by the University of Washington. Any Pine-related and Pine-specific discussion is acceptable, but general discussion regarding e.g. MIME or incoming-mail filters is referred to other, more appropriate newsgroups. The group is not moderated. To be made moderated, the same procedure should be followed as for the creation of a new group at that time. The group is bidirectionally gatewayed to the mailing list pine-info@cac.washington.edu. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 10 21:52:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21899; Wed, 10 May 95 21:52:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02092; Wed, 10 May 95 21:47:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02086; Wed, 10 May 95 21:47:46 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10168; Wed, 10 May 95 21:47:42 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 21:47:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Julie A. McCarthy" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Automatic deletion In-Reply-To: <3or8ma$5lo@knot.queensu.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Julie, There is a mis-feature in Pine 3.91 that if a message is marked deleted in your inbox *before* you save it to another folder, the copy of the message will also be marked deleted. (This will be fixed in 3.92) Would this explain what you are seeing? -teg On 10 May 1995, Julie A. McCarthy wrote: > Has anyone else had a problem with PINE arbitrarily marking messages for > deletion? > > When leaving one folder and opening another I am asked if I want to delete > one or two messages from the last folder I was in. I have not requested > that these messages be deleted, and in many instances it is not that I > have even so much as moved the cursor onto the message to look at it. > This problem does not occur each time - maybe every 5 or 6 times I move > from one folder to another. Pine will not delete the file if I say no to > the question and I can go back to the folder and remove the delete > indicator. This has been happening for about three weeks and the only > thing that I think I may have changed in that time is that I added > another editor to my PINE (vi) which I am not using. > > I'm using Pine 3.91 and aix 3.2.5 on an RS6000. I've asked the more > frequent users of our system and no one else has this problem. I have > about 52 folders. I do not have a limited disk space, and there is no > sweap going on on our machine getting rid of old mail (and as I said the > messages seem to be chosen at random). > > Any ideas? > > --Julie > ============================================================================== > Julie A. McCarthy PHONE: (613) 545-2260 > Departmental Assistant FAX: (613) 545-6668 > Department of Economics E-MAIL: mccarthj@qed.econ.queensu.ca > Queen's University HOME PAGE: http://qed.econ.queensu.ca > Kingston, Ontario K7L 3N6 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 04:25:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01258; Thu, 11 May 95 04:25:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07306; Thu, 11 May 95 04:10:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07300; Thu, 11 May 95 04:10:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9Vv2-00038ZC; Thu, 11 May 95 03:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: pine: user-domain Date: 11 May 1995 01:42:23 GMT Message-Id: <3orq1v$ru0@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3opiul$578@horus.infinet.com> Status: O X-Status: In article <3opiul$578@horus.infinet.com>, Mark Foley wrote: >So, bottom line is this. When I send mail to a local user on our domain >using 'mail', the From address is: > mfoley >and when I send this message to a remote user the From address is: > mfoley@novatec.ascinet.com >When our sales guy using pine sends to a local user the From address is: > dave@novatec >and when he sends to a remote user the From address is also: > dave@novatec >What's my problem? Please email advice. Your problem is that you're trying to get Pine to do more than it can (if I'm not mistaken as to what you're trying to say). You need to make some sendmail rewrite rules on your Unix host so that it will properly rewrite the header on mail going out on your UUCP link. (If you haven't messed with /etc/sendmail.cf files before, then you're in for a TREAT. I'd suggest _sendmail_ (Costales, Allman & Rickert. Sebastopol, CA:O'Reilly, 1994) to show you how to do it, it's hairy.) You could try setting user-domain to novatec.ascinet.com, though, but it sounds to me like it's a rewrite rule problem. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 06:47:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05031; Thu, 11 May 95 06:47:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10961; Thu, 11 May 95 06:32:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10955; Thu, 11 May 95 06:32:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9YJI-00038gC; Thu, 11 May 95 06:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Automatic deletion Date: 11 May 1995 06:14:52 -0701 Message-Id: References: <3or8ma$5lo@knot.queensu.ca> Status: O X-Status: gray@cac.washington.edu (Terry Gray) writes: >There is a mis-feature in Pine 3.91 that if a message is marked deleted >in your inbox *before* you save it to another folder, the copy of the >message will also be marked deleted. (This will be fixed in 3.92) Hey Terry, I always thought you were the kind of guy who would call a bug a bug! Keep up the great work! Nancy -- /\_/\ @..@ Please make sure your host gets the /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) new humanities.* newsgroups. Info ( o.o ) > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) is at http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 06:50:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05121; Thu, 11 May 95 06:50:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09091; Thu, 11 May 95 06:25:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09083; Thu, 11 May 95 06:25:53 -0700 Received: by ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-940815-1) id AA11893; Thu, 11 May 95 09:25:45 EDT Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 09:25:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Schlitt To: "Julie A. McCarthy" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Automatic deletion In-Reply-To: <3or8ma$5lo@knot.queensu.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I think that I have noticed this too. My conclusion was that if I mark a message for deletion in the INBOX and then go back and decide that I really wanted to save it to a folder the saved message is still marked for deletion. Could this be true? /dan -- Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 07:21:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05698; Thu, 11 May 95 07:21:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09784; Thu, 11 May 95 07:09:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pogo.den.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09778; Thu, 11 May 95 07:09:30 -0700 Received: by pogo.den.mmc.com (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06252; Thu, 11 May 95 08:09:27 -0600 Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 08:09:27 -0600 (MDT) From: Michael S Hartman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: problem posting to newsgroups! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: WOndering if anyone can help. I know i need to go in setup and under "nntp-server" there is no set value. I can read news and reply to authors, but i cant post. A message says "nntp server not defined. Please help! Mike Hartman lockheed/martin valley forge. p.a. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 07:51:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06669; Thu, 11 May 95 07:51:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11776; Thu, 11 May 95 07:39:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [204.138.239.65] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11770; Thu, 11 May 95 07:39:42 -0700 Received: from barb.wchat.on.ca by barb.wchat.on.ca id aa22649; 11 May 95 10:32 EDT Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 10:32:28 -0400 (EDT) From: doom To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Mail not sent message! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: I have been using this terrific program for just a short time, and for=20 the most part quite enjoy it, however there is one annoyance I get once=20 in a while, and I wonder if someone could provide assistance... Now and then, when sending out completed message, (most often when=20 replying, or fwding) I get the message 'mail not sent, transfer protocol=20 error 451 [no such file or directory] sub'... =20 Often simply writing it as postponed, and going back to it later, solves= =20 the problem, but I don't understand why, or how it happens initially? Suggestions? Thanks... Will doom@wchat.on.ca 'Welcome to the castle of DOOM' =DB =D5=D5=D5 =DB =DB=DC =DC=DB=DB=DB=DC =DC=DB =F7=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=B1=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=F7 =F7=F7=F7=F7=F7=F7=F7=F7=F7=F7=F7=F7=F7 =20 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 07:56:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06873; Thu, 11 May 95 07:56:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10356; Thu, 11 May 95 07:47:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10350; Thu, 11 May 95 07:47:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9ZPQ-00038ZC; Thu, 11 May 95 07:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: amehdiza@violin.aix.calpoly.edu (Ali Mehdizadeh) Subject: Spelling Date: 9 May 1995 19:25:53 GMT Message-Id: <3oofk1$imi@isnews.calpoly.edu> Status: O X-Status: Does anyone know if it is possible to create a file which includes the word that you want the speller to skip while checking your spelling? I have pine 3.9. Thanks, amehdiza@violin.aix.calpoly.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 08:07:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07343; Thu, 11 May 95 08:07:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10521; Thu, 11 May 95 07:56:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10509; Thu, 11 May 95 07:56:18 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21049; Thu, 11 May 95 07:56:03 -0700 Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 07:56:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Nancy McGough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Automatic deletion In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 11 May 1995, Nancy McGough wrote: > gray@cac.washington.edu (Terry Gray) writes: > >There is a mis-feature in Pine 3.91 that if a message is marked deleted > >in your inbox *before* you save it to another folder, the copy of the > >message will also be marked deleted. (This will be fixed in 3.92) > > Hey Terry, I always thought you were the kind of guy who would call a > bug a bug! The difference is whether the behavior in question is an undesired side-effect of a *design* decision, or --in contrast-- a coding error. In this case, we made a conscious decision to have Save preserve the existing message flags. We were thinking about SEEN/UNSEEN, ANSWERED, etc... Clearly this was the wrong thing to do in the case of the Deleted flag. > Keep up the great work! Thanks. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 08:23:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07805; Thu, 11 May 95 08:23:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12282; Thu, 11 May 95 08:10:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12276; Thu, 11 May 95 08:10:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9Znp-00038ZC; Thu, 11 May 95 08:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fxars@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu Subject: Running Pine with emacs (elegantly) Date: 11 May 1995 04:22:59 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I've searched their web site, and can't find it, though I've seen it before somewhere. How does one get pine to access an existing emacs job, instead of creating an extra emacs when alt editor is invoked? More importantly, where do I find it in the docs? (perhaps it's in emacs, though I've checked the info files). Post the answer, send me email, do whatever, I'll get the answer. === Al From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 10:16:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13343; Thu, 11 May 95 10:16:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13540; Thu, 11 May 95 10:03:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13534; Thu, 11 May 95 10:03:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9bXE-00038ZC; Thu, 11 May 95 09:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Change return address ("From: ") in Pine In-Reply-To: mark@ephesus.com's message of 8 May 1995 09: 43:47 GMT Message-Id: References: <3oiqfd$n6b@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3okp4j$kd7@news.panix.com> Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 07:52:31 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <3okp4j$kd7@news.panix.com> mark@ephesus.com (Mark Swearingen) writes: It was certainly not my intent to encourage forgery. However, for people who have more than one address at which they can receive e-mail, it would be convenient to set the return address at one location to the other address, so that all return mail came to one location. Thus, there is a "legitimate" use for such a feature. Wouldn't a Reply-To: header meet your needs? If so, Pine's customized-hdrs feature allows creation of such a header. Regards, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 12:37:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19136; Thu, 11 May 95 12:37:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17806; Thu, 11 May 95 12:30:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17800; Thu, 11 May 95 12:30:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9dvS-00038ZC; Thu, 11 May 95 12:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lovas@ludens.elte.hu Subject: cancel <1995May4.123246.12833@ludens> Message-Id: <1995May8.174313.12959@ludens> Date: 8 May 95 17:43:13 +0200 Control: cancel <1995May4.123246.12833@ludens> Status: O X-Status: cancel <1995May4.123246.12833@ludens> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 13:37:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21866; Thu, 11 May 95 13:37:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18516; Thu, 11 May 95 13:31:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18510; Thu, 11 May 95 13:30:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9erc-00038ZC; Thu, 11 May 95 13:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Running Pine with emacs (elegantly) Date: 11 May 1995 14:20:56 GMT Message-Id: <3ot6g8$rpn@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , wrote: >How does one get pine to access an existing emacs job, instead of >creating an extra emacs when alt editor is invoked? More importantly, >where do I find it in the docs? (perhaps it's in emacs, though I've >checked the info files). It's called emacsserver, and it should be available in /usr/local/lib/emacs/X/Y/emacsserver. I don't know how to run it though, though it's something that I've been meaning to look at next week for, oh, about four years now. If you figure out how to use it, do drop me a line. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 13:41:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22044; Thu, 11 May 95 13:41:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18624; Thu, 11 May 95 13:35:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18618; Thu, 11 May 95 13:35:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9ewx-00038gC; Thu, 11 May 95 13:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: spatlan@gp807.jsc.nasa.gov (Steve Patlan) Subject: Re: Change return address ("From:") in Pine Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 09:50:14 -0600 Message-Id: References: <3oiqfd$n6b@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3okp4j$kd7@news.panix.com> Status: O X-Status: In article <3okp4j$kd7@news.panix.com>, mark@ephesus.com (Mark Swearingen) wrote: > harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) writes: > > > [ If Pine provided this feature, forgery would run rampant ] > ...It was certainly not my intent to encourage > forgery. However, for people who have more than one address at which they can > receive e-mail, it would be convenient to set the return address at one > location to the other address, so that all return mail came to one location. > Thus, there is a "legitimate" use for such a feature. > [ SNIP! ] > To get back to my original question, it would appear from your response that > Pine does not have a configuration option for setting the username on the > return address. Thank you for that information. Well, Pine *does* allow you to define custom headers. So, just add a "Reply-To", and direct all replies back to your preferred address. Any mail program worth its disk space should honor "Reply-To" (or at least give the user the option to use it.) - Steve -- Steve Patlan NASA/DF73 (713) 483-1406 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 13:42:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22172; Thu, 11 May 95 13:42:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19137; Thu, 11 May 95 13:35:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19127; Thu, 11 May 95 13:35:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9eur-00038ZC; Thu, 11 May 95 13:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: steve@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (Peterson Stephen) Subject: Question about pine startup. Date: 11 May 1995 14:05:43 GMT Message-Id: <3ot5jn$3ig@urvile.MSUS.EDU> Status: O X-Status: Greetings, In elm there is a startup flag to only start the mail program if there is new mail in your inbox( think it is -z ). Is there such a flag for pine? If so can you please email it to me. (I know pine -z doesn't do it) Thanks Steve From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 13:44:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22343; Thu, 11 May 95 13:44:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18744; Thu, 11 May 95 13:40:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from MATH.ORST.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18738; Thu, 11 May 95 13:40:38 -0700 Received: from chabochi.MATH.ORST.EDU by MATH.ORST.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22231; Thu, 11 May 95 13:40:36 PDT Message-Id: <9505112040.AA22231@MATH.ORST.EDU> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: how to get patch for init.c standard-printer bug Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 13:40:36 PDT From: Russell Ruby Status: O X-Status: I'm in the process of testing 3.91 before replacing 3.87 and discovered that the "standard-printer" setting in "pine.conf" was ignored. I found the following reference in the pine-info web and ftp archives, but no such patch could be found after considerable further digging in the archives... So, could someone please send me this patch or let me know where such bug reports and patches exist ? thanks, russell ruby russ@math.orst.edu o Subject: Re: Trouble setting standard-printer o From: Shah o Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 11:50:33 -0700 (MST) o Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu o Priority: HIGH On Tue, 14 Feb 1995 08:46:09 -0800 (PST) David L Miller wrote: > >Shah, > >That is a well known bug. I have attached the patch to pine/init.c. >Apply the changes and rebuild to make the variables work... > >Thanks for the report! Thanks, David. You're a gentleman and a scholar! And thanks to y'all for Pine. It's doing us yeoman's service! Best regards, S. [Previous Message] [Next Message] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 15:06:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25305; Thu, 11 May 95 15:06:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20794; Thu, 11 May 95 14:59:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20788; Thu, 11 May 95 14:59:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9gBt-00039cC; Thu, 11 May 95 14:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Subject: Forwarding Multiple Messages and MIME Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 14:48:17 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to forward multiple messages (after selecting them, and using the apply command) so that they appear as separate attachments within a message? If you answer yes to the "Send as a MIME attachment?" (or whatever it is) question, then all the messages get clumped together into one huge attachment. What I mean is, can you forward them so that they appear in the way they would if you saved all the messages to separate files and then sent them all as separate attachments? Thanks for any help! :) ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(,_(,)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>, _>, WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 15:21:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25780; Thu, 11 May 95 15:21:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20835; Thu, 11 May 95 15:16:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20829; Thu, 11 May 95 15:16:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9gSn-00039cC; Thu, 11 May 95 15:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: qed!mccarthj@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Julie A. McCarthy) Subject: Re: Automatic deletion Date: 11 May 1995 13:00:41 GMT Message-Id: <3ot1pp$qvh@knot.queensu.ca> References: <3or8ma$5lo@knot.queensu.ca> Status: O X-Status: Teg, I really don't think the mis-feature would explain it. These are not messages that have recently been saved to a folder; messages that were saved weeks ago are being tagged for deletion. BTW, I'm not alone in this random deletion thing. Apparently someone else in our department is having the same problem. --Julie >Julie, >There is a mis-feature in Pine 3.91 that if a message is marked deleted >in your inbox *before* you save it to another folder, the copy of the >message will also be marked deleted. (This will be fixed in 3.92) > >Would this explain what you are seeing? > >-teg > -- ============================================================================== Julie A. McCarthy PHONE: (613) 545-2260 Departmental Assistant FAX: (613) 545-6668 Department of Economics E-MAIL: mccarthj@qed.econ.queensu.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 15:49:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26748; Thu, 11 May 95 15:49:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21242; Thu, 11 May 95 15:37:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from fun.direct.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21236; Thu, 11 May 95 15:37:24 -0700 Received: from fun (fun [199.60.228.1]) by mail.direct.ca (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA01388 for ; Thu, 11 May 1995 15:37:21 -0700 Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 15:37:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Angela B X-Sender: cdesmara@fun To: pine Subject: HELP! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Bet you guys see that a lot :) Anyway, I am trying to link my news into pine because I can't stand the editor that accompanies tin, and because I basically prefer pine. I had it done, but my server somehow managed to delete my account, all my mail, and of course my pine config... since then I have been trying unsuccessfully to set up a 'newsreader' in pine. A friend did it for me last time, and he mentioned that he had set something up in pico so that I would be able to access the newsgroups. I have tried all of the things that the pine help suggests, alone or in combination, and none have worked. The auto response to the bug alert suggested that I send mail here, I would appreciate any help you could give. Since this is apparently a newsgroup, please reply by email, as I cannot actually read news right now :) Thanks for the help... Ange Claudia, how many times do I have to tell you? Not in the house!!!!! Lestat - IWTV From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 15:59:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27071; Thu, 11 May 95 15:59:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21611; Thu, 11 May 95 15:44:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21605; Thu, 11 May 95 15:44:25 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05354; Thu, 11 May 95 15:44:22 -0700 Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 15:44:21 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Tom Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pico configuration question.. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 5 May 1995, Tom wrote: > Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 15:07:28 -0700 > From: Tom > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Pico configuration question.. > > > On Fri, 5 May 1995, J. Kelly Cunningham wrote: > > | > > | Can Pico be set up up so that when you save a file by typing > > | ctrl-O, it won't ask for the name of the file to save to, but > > | automatically save to whatever the name is of the file thats open? > > | tom@ssc.com > > | > > | > > > > - From the man page: > > > > > > -t Enable "tool" mode. Intended for when pico is used as > > the editor within other tools (e.g., Elm, Pnews). Pico > > will not prompt for save on exit, and will not rename > > the buffer during the "Write Out" command. > > > > This won't work using Pico as a stand-alone editor though; like the > man page says, the -t switch works from within another program. > > Huh? It doesn't make any difference if Pico is called from tin or from the shell (which does happen to be "another program ;) |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 16:09:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27387; Thu, 11 May 95 16:09:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21634; Thu, 11 May 95 15:55:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21628; Thu, 11 May 95 15:54:59 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05543; Thu, 11 May 95 15:54:51 -0700 Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 15:54:49 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Yee Tian Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: building pine with mailx In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: The two options are to invoke sendmail (the default) or to directly contact an SMTP server (possibly on the same machine). This is selectable at runtime in the Pine configuration and does not affect the build. To use an SMTP server, set the smtp-server variable in the Setup/Config screen, /usr/local/lib/pine.conf, or /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 6 May 1995, Yee Tian wrote: > Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 11:45:39 +0800 (SST) > From: Yee Tian > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: building pine with mailx > > Hi, > I understand that if I did not specify the sendmail agent when I > build pine, I will get the default mail agent ie "sendmail". > > 1) How can I change the sendmail agent to use "mailx" ? > 2) In which document can I find this piece of information ? > > Please help !!!!! > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 16:16:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27629; Thu, 11 May 95 16:16:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21827; Thu, 11 May 95 16:04:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from netmail1.austin.ibm.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21821; Thu, 11 May 95 16:04:49 -0700 Received: from pasha.austin.ibm.com (pasha.austin.ibm.com [129.35.150.15]) by netmail1.austin.ibm.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id SAA13935 for ; Thu, 11 May 1995 18:04:42 -0500 Received: by pasha.austin.ibm.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-client-2.6) for Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu at austin.ibm.com; id AA26122; Thu, 11 May 1995 18:04:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 17:55:58 +0006 (CST) From: Syed Pasha To: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: subscribe pine-info Syed Z. PASHA Internet: pasha@austin.ibm.com IBM RISC System/6000 Division VNET: PASHA at AUSTIN 11400 Burnet Road, 9643 Phone (Voice): (512) 838-1440 Austin, TX 78758 Tie Line: 678-1440 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 17:01:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29173; Thu, 11 May 95 17:01:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22956; Thu, 11 May 95 16:51:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22950; Thu, 11 May 95 16:51:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9hy5-00038ZC; Thu, 11 May 95 16:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roy Subject: Re: Suggestion Re: Address Book Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 11:40:50 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: How about some instructions on how to have a 'signature' on the bottom of every message that you write, like the one below ? Thanks - a new user. On Fri, 5 May 1995, Brad wrote: > It'd be neat to be able to search for something in a particular field > (e.g. Nickname). That's all. :) > > ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! > / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk > \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(,_(,)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk > <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>, _>, WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 17:55:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01562; Thu, 11 May 95 17:55:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24113; Thu, 11 May 95 17:44:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24107; Thu, 11 May 95 17:44:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9iiz-00038ZC; Thu, 11 May 95 17:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lovas@ludens.elte.hu (Gyorgy A. Lovas) Subject: Q: Pine 3.91 for Mac..does it exist? Message-Id: <1995May8.174149.12958@ludens> Date: 8 May 95 17:41:49 +0200 Status: O X-Status: Dear Netters, I wander if Pine 3.91 has been ported to Mac platform at all. If so, I'd like to know if it is available for download and from which archive. Sorry if it is a FAQ, but I was unable to find any pointer. Any help or pointer is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance George PS: This is my second trial; I hope this time someone responds From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 18:19:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02351; Thu, 11 May 95 18:19:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24191; Thu, 11 May 95 18:06:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24185; Thu, 11 May 95 18:06:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9j8m-00038ZC; Thu, 11 May 95 18:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: michaelm@cloudburst.seas.ucla.edu (Michael J. Martinez) Subject: Setup Pine to read news Message-Id: Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 20:57:20 GMT Status: O X-Status: I'm trying to setup up UNIX Pine to read the USENET news. I used "rn" to setup a ".newsrc" file and added the line "news-collections=News *[]" to my .pinerc file. When I go to that folder it says that it is empty though. What am I doing wrong? Please help. Michael Martinez michaelm@typhoon.seas.ucla.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 21:11:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06288; Thu, 11 May 95 21:11:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26752; Thu, 11 May 95 20:59:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26746; Thu, 11 May 95 20:59:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9loo-00038ZC; Thu, 11 May 95 20:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lmiller@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx (Larry Miller [DT]) Subject: Re: HELP! Date: 11 May 1995 17:56:18 -0600 Message-Id: <3ou872$jp7@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx> References: Status: O X-Status: Angela B (cdesmara@direct.ca) wrote: > Bet you guys see that a lot :) Anyway, I am trying to link my news into > pine because I can't stand the editor that accompanies tin, and because I > basically prefer pine. I've used both a lot and really prefer tin; news is what it's dedicated to. You can have the best of both worlds by having tin use the PINE editor (pico)-- set up an environmental variable called VISUAL that contains the full pathname of pico on your system and tin should use that instead of vi or whatever. Larry Miller Administrador de Redes / Network Administrator Centro de Investigaciones Biologicas del Noroeste, La Paz, BCS Mexico lmiller@cibnor.conacyt.mx From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 22:07:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07585; Thu, 11 May 95 22:07:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27623; Thu, 11 May 95 22:01:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27617; Thu, 11 May 95 22:01:22 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04161; Thu, 11 May 95 22:01:18 -0700 Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 22:01:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Julie A. McCarthy" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Automatic deletion In-Reply-To: <3ot1pp$qvh@knot.queensu.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Julie, I'll send you by separate message a list of questions to try to narrow down the possibilites. -teg On 11 May 1995, Julie A. McCarthy wrote: > Teg, I really don't think the mis-feature would explain it. These are not > messages that have recently been saved to a folder; messages that were > saved weeks ago are being tagged for deletion. > > BTW, I'm not alone in this random deletion thing. Apparently someone > else in our department is having the same problem. > > --Julie > > >Julie, > >There is a mis-feature in Pine 3.91 that if a message is marked deleted > >in your inbox *before* you save it to another folder, the copy of the > >message will also be marked deleted. (This will be fixed in 3.92) > > > >Would this explain what you are seeing? > > > >-teg > > > > > -- > ============================================================================== > Julie A. McCarthy PHONE: (613) 545-2260 > Departmental Assistant FAX: (613) 545-6668 > Department of Economics E-MAIL: mccarthj@qed.econ.queensu.ca > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 11 22:17:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07780; Thu, 11 May 95 22:17:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27035; Thu, 11 May 95 22:14:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27029; Thu, 11 May 95 22:14:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9n0B-00038ZC; Thu, 11 May 95 22:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: reach@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (Reach Summer Science Camp) Subject: How to block mail? Date: 11 May 1995 21:42:26 GMT Message-Id: <3ou0c2$sum@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Status: O X-Status: How do I make pine block mail from certain users? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 00:20:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10702; Fri, 12 May 95 00:20:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29503; Fri, 12 May 95 00:14:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29497; Fri, 12 May 95 00:14:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9opy-00038rC; Fri, 12 May 95 00:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Douglas M. Bates" Subject: Unix Pine: Must the config be in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf? Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 13:36:07 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am configuring Pine 3.91 for several different types of Unix systems in our department. Because we discourage the use of directories in the /usr/local/ hierarchy, I would like to keep the global configuration file in a location other than /usr/local/lib/pine.conf. I had hoped that there would be a variable in the makefile to set this but I can't see one. In fact, a grep of the source code directory seems to indicate that the name /usr/local/lib/pine.conf occurs as exactly that string in a number of locations in the source code and the help files. Is it the case that using another global configuration file would require replacing that string in many different source files? (Replies via e-mail would be appreciated. I don't know that I will be able to keep up with the volume of traffic on this group.) If that is the case, may I suggest that allowing easy reconfiguration of that name could be something to add to the "TO DO" list? Douglas Bates bates@stat.wisc.edu Statistics Department 608/262-2598 University of Wisconsin - Madison http://www.stat.wisc.edu/~bates/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 00:38:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11049; Fri, 12 May 95 00:38:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28705; Fri, 12 May 95 00:32:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28699; Fri, 12 May 95 00:32:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9pAl-00038bC; Fri, 12 May 95 00:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mfoley@infinet.com (Mark Foley) Subject: Re: pine: user-domain Date: 12 May 1995 06:42:42 GMT Message-Id: <3ov012$f4s@horus.infinet.com> References: <3opiul$578@horus.infinet.com> <3orq1v$ru0@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Trey Harris (harris@email.unc.edu) wrote: : In article <3opiul$578@horus.infinet.com>, : Mark Foley wrote: : >So, bottom line is this. When I send mail to a local user on our domain : >using 'mail', the From address is: : > mfoley : >and when I send this message to a remote user the From address is: : > mfoley@novatec.ascinet.com : >When our sales guy using pine sends to a local user the From address is: : > dave@novatec : >and when he sends to a remote user the From address is also: : > dave@novatec : >What's my problem? Please email advice. : Your problem is that you're trying to get Pine to do more than it can (if : I'm not mistaken as to what you're trying to say). You need to make some : sendmail rewrite rules on your Unix host so that it will properly rewrite : the header on mail going out on your UUCP link. (If you haven't messed : with /etc/sendmail.cf files before, then you're in for a TREAT. I'd : suggest _sendmail_ (Costales, Allman & Rickert. Sebastopol, CA:O'Reilly, : 1994) to show you how to do it, it's hairy.) : You could try setting user-domain to novatec.ascinet.com, though, but it : sounds to me like it's a rewrite rule problem. That's the confusing part. We *have* specified the sendmail rules to tack on the appropriate address going out UUCP. This is how we got regular 'mail' to work in the first place. Why does it work for 'mail', but not for 'pine'? I'm confused. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 01:35:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12764; Fri, 12 May 95 01:35:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29467; Fri, 12 May 95 01:29:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from zodiac.unl.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29461; Fri, 12 May 95 01:28:57 -0700 Received: by zodiac.unl.ac.uk (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA04469; Fri, 12 May 1995 09:29:23 +0100 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 09:29:23 +0100 From: cwf@zodiac.unl.ac.uk (Clifford) Message-Id: <9505120829.AA04469@zodiac.unl.ac.uk> To: bates@stat.wisc.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine Content-Length: 1486 Status: O X-Status: I believe all you need to do is put pine.conf in the same directory as the binary, certainly it works for me useing a path /export/internet/pine automounted to /local/pine. If you have paths hard wired into the source code it might be harder. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Douglas M. Bates" I am configuring Pine 3.91 for several different types of Unix systems in our department. Because we discourage the use of directories in the /usr/local/ hierarchy, I would like to keep the global configuration file in a location other than /usr/local/lib/pine.conf. I had hoped that there would be a variable in the makefile to set this but I can't see one. In fact, a grep of the source code directory seems to indicate that the name /usr/local/lib/pine.conf occurs as exactly that string in a number of locations in the source code and the help files. Is it the case that using another global configuration file would require replacing that string in many different source files? (Replies via e-mail would be appreciated. I don't know that I will be able to keep up with the volume of traffic on this group.) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Clifford W Fulford University of North London CLMS-UNIX development E-mail: Clifford@zodiac.unl.ac.uk Clifford@compulink.co.uk C.Fulford@unl.ac.uk Telephone: 071-607-2789 x 7314. Home 081-986-5239 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 01:59:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13198; Fri, 12 May 95 01:59:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00936; Fri, 12 May 95 01:52:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00930; Fri, 12 May 95 01:52:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9qQX-00038bC; Fri, 12 May 95 01:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: averyc@xanadu.io.com (Chris Avery) Subject: pop and imap passwording Date: 12 May 1995 01:38:06 -0500 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: The server I am on has moved there mail to a separate server. The server is using pop and imap to read mail. My problem is the password is asked everytime I use pine. any way to change this? Chris Avery averyc@io.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 03:26:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15115; Fri, 12 May 95 03:26:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01926; Fri, 12 May 95 03:19:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from henson.cc.wwu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01920; Fri, 12 May 95 03:19:24 -0700 Received: by henson.cc.wwu.edu (5.65/WWU-H1.2/UW-NDC Revision: 2.26 ) id AA01643; Fri, 12 May 1995 03:18:57 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 03:18:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Zach Robinson To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Setting Distribution? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Pine gurus- I use Pine 3.91 for a lot of my computing needs, including posting to newsgroups. My concern is how to set the special posting fields such as Distribution. I am fairly certain that this is not available within the header. Is it possible to insert these fields within the body of the text and have them still function normally (which I, admittedly, would probably classify as a bug), or am I just out of luck until the next version of Pine is released? Thank you for your response. -Zach Robinson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 03:35:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15360; Fri, 12 May 95 03:35:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00725; Fri, 12 May 95 03:22:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00719; Fri, 12 May 95 03:22:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9rqX-00038bC; Fri, 12 May 95 03:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kovler@smart.net (Ken Kovler) Subject: In pine how can you read headers? Date: 11 May 1995 21:31:21 -0400 Message-Id: <3oudp9$bm1@smarty.smart.net> Status: O X-Status: Some times I would like to read how my mail is routed. How can you display this in pine? Thanks for the response! -- | 0 0 | "Keep Smiling" //\\ Ken \\//[http://www.smart.net/~kovler] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 03:54:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15779; Fri, 12 May 95 03:54:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02257; Fri, 12 May 95 03:47:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02251; Fri, 12 May 95 03:47:20 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 12 May 1995 11:43:49 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id LAA15260; Fri, 12 May 1995 11:47:52 +0100 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 11:47:51 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Moving messages from VAX/VMS to UNIX/Berkeley Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi! We are in the process of discontinuing our old VAX/VMS service (scheduled to be switched off at the end of June). Instead all our users are moving to UNIX (actually IRIX on SGI boxes) and will be using Pine for their mail. A lot of people (thankfully) have been making the move over the past year. However some people have been using the VAX/VMS service right to the bitter end, and have a number of mail messages they'd like to "take with them" to UNIX. I was thinking of a little utility that could be used to read the messages saved from VAX mail using an "EXTRACT/ALL" command (messages are written into a file separated with Line Feeds) and write a Berkeley format mailbox. Then I wondered if anyone had already faced this problem and either written such a utility already, or had some other suggestion. Anyone? (he said, hopefully! :-) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 03:56:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15826; Fri, 12 May 95 03:56:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02220; Fri, 12 May 95 03:43:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sils.umich.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02214; Fri, 12 May 95 03:43:05 -0700 Received: by sils.umich.edu (8.6.8/2.0) id GAA02162; Fri, 12 May 1995 06:45:01 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 06:45:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Hughes To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I've been having trouble with Pine now that I'm reaching my account from home: it won't accept the Cancel command when I'm composing. Also, is there any way to delete a folder, or just change the order of several, once created? Ken Hughes From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 04:07:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16728; Fri, 12 May 95 04:07:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02359; Fri, 12 May 95 03:55:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02353; Fri, 12 May 95 03:55:16 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 12 May 1995 11:51:55 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id LAA16668; Fri, 12 May 1995 11:55:46 +0100 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 11:55:46 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Ken Kovler Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: In pine how can you read headers? In-Reply-To: <3oudp9$bm1@smarty.smart.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: The command you need is "H" (headers). Depending on how Pine is configured on your system you may need to go into the Setup Configuration menu (S then C from the Main Menu) and enable this feature). Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On 11 May 1995, Ken Kovler wrote: > Some times I would like to read how my mail is routed. How can you > display this in pine? > > Thanks for the response! > -- > | 0 0 | "Keep Smiling" //\\ Ken \\//[http://www.smart.net/~kovler] > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 04:11:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16826; Fri, 12 May 95 04:11:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02352; Fri, 12 May 95 03:55:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02346; Fri, 12 May 95 03:54:57 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 12 May 1995 11:50:56 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id LAA16473; Fri, 12 May 1995 11:54:45 +0100 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 11:54:45 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Zach Robinson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Setting Distribution? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: No, the heeader lines must be specified in the message header, not the message body text. However all you have to do is add any special headers you want in Pine 3.91's Setup Configuration menu (S then C from the main menu). Look for the "customized-hdrs" item. Here you can set one or more additional header fields and, if you wish, a default value to set them to. You don't normally see these additional header lines when composing a message (but they are there). To see them place the cursor up in the message header area and type Ctrl/R to see the "Rich Header". Note that any header lines you add with default values will almost certianly (can't say definitely as I haven't tried it) be used when sending either News or e-mail messages. I tend to just define the header line but omit any default value (so the line is omitted from the message sent unless you explicitly set a value when composing by Ctrl/R then typing in a value). Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On Fri, 12 May 1995, Zach Robinson wrote: > > Pine gurus- > > I use Pine 3.91 for a lot of my computing needs, including > posting to newsgroups. > My concern is how to set the special posting fields such as > Distribution. > I am fairly certain that this is not available within the > header. Is it possible to insert these fields within the body of the > text and have them still function normally (which I, admittedly, would > probably classify as a bug), or am I just out of luck until the next > version of Pine is released? > > Thank you for your response. > > -Zach Robinson > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 04:22:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17098; Fri, 12 May 95 04:22:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02429; Fri, 12 May 95 04:00:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02423; Fri, 12 May 95 03:59:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9sOz-00038gC; Fri, 12 May 95 03:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) Subject: Re: Sorting by Ordered Subject vs Subject Date: 12 May 1995 01:56:43 GMT Message-Id: <3ouf8r$2ec@news.primenet.com> References: Status: O X-Status: Adriel Ickler (txickler@spirit) wrote: >What is the difference between Ordered Sorting & normal, Ex. Ordered >Subject.? >I looked in the help file but could not find a definition. thanks! My Help screen via the setup/configuration menu for sort says this: ========================================== PINE 3.91 HELP FOR SETUP CONFIGURATION OPTION: Sort-Key This option determines the order in which messages will be displayed in the Folder Index screen. Choose from: o Date -- Sort folders according to the date and time they were sent. On a folder like INBOX, sorting by "Date" should be almost identical to sorting by "Arrival". o Arrival -- Sort messages into the order in which they arrived. o From -- Sort messages by the name of the author of the message. Messages with the same author are grouped together. Groups of messages are then put into alphabetical order according to message author. o Subject -- Sort messages by subject. Messages with the same subject are grouped together. Pine ignores leading "Re:" and "re:" and trailing "(fwd)" when determining the likeness and alphabetical order of subject lines. Groups of messages are put into alphabetical order according to subject. o OrderedSubj -- Grouping of all messages with the same subject into alphabetical order according to subject. OrderedSubj -- Grouping of all messages with the same subject together is done in the same way as sort by subject. With "OrderedSubj" however, groups of messages are put into date order according to the oldest message on a given subject. This sorting provides pseudo threading of messages. o ReverseDate -- Like "Date" but the newest message is first. o ReverseArrival -- Like "Arrival" but the newest message is first. o ReverseFrom -- Like "From" but groups of messages are ordered in reverse alphabetical order (Z-A). o ReverseSubject -- Like "Subject" but groups of messages are ordered in reverse alphabetical order (Z-A). o ReverseOrderedSubj -- Like "OrderedSubj" but groups of messages are ordered with the newest groups first (according to the first message of each group) Normal default is "arrival". ============================================ Another approach of course is to try some of the sort options while online, via the $ (dollar sign) key to bring up the sort menu. Then watch the screen to see how it sorts and if you like the results. Via menu key the sort is temporary per current session. If you like results of one way you can later make a configuration change and have it as your default. I prefer the Ordered/Subj arrangement for listservs for continuity akin to threaded discussions while preferring the Arrival sort order for personal email. My default is set for Ordered/Subj and I hit a comm program macro to switch my Inbox (personal email) to Arrival order. Bob From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 04:25:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17165; Fri, 12 May 95 04:25:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01589; Fri, 12 May 95 04:17:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01583; Fri, 12 May 95 04:17:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9sgI-00038gC; Fri, 12 May 95 04:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Wayne Wilson Subject: Re: filtering, once and for all Date: 11 May 1995 11:39:08 GMT Message-Id: <3ost0s$dad@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com> <3ojidp$1l6b@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) wrote: > >So, check the To line instead of the From line. Better yet (and this is >what I do because it's so easy) look to the left of the numbers in your >folder index. Mail to a list should have only the "N" for new messages. >But mail that is specifically to you should have a plus next to it, too. >If it doesn't, then that's something that should be fixed in Pine 3.92. >But probably it works, and you just haven't noticed the little plus sign. >-- The plus sign helps but is not totally sufficient. In my office, we nearly alwasys include other people in mail, especially mail that talks about business and setting up meetings. So it is rather rare for me to get any mail with a plus sign on it at all. I still have the problem of not knowing if the mail is from a list or not. Filtering will be the only hope, given the nature of lists. I might very well have to change e-mail packages soon just to get filtering. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 06:33:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20459; Fri, 12 May 95 06:33:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02721; Fri, 12 May 95 06:08:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02715; Fri, 12 May 95 06:07:55 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 12 May 1995 14:02:58 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id OAA07925; Fri, 12 May 1995 14:07:06 +0100 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 14:07:06 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Kenneth Hughes Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I suspect your "Cancel" problem is actually a problem with your terminal emulator and its setup rather than Pine itself. For example, NCSA Telnet can be set up to handle ^C locally rather than transmit it to the host. You can delete folders (and their contents if not empty!) from the Folder List screen (command "L" from the main menu, message index, etc). Just highlight the folder you want to delete and give the "D" command. You can also rename folders here. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On Fri, 12 May 1995, Kenneth Hughes wrote: > I've been having trouble with Pine now that I'm reaching my account from > home: it won't accept the Cancel command when I'm composing. > Also, is there any way to delete a folder, or just change the > order of several, once created? > > Ken Hughes > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 06:54:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20879; Fri, 12 May 95 06:54:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04624; Fri, 12 May 95 06:22:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04618; Fri, 12 May 95 06:22:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9uc6-00038gC; Fri, 12 May 95 06:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeff Morris Subject: View Message Screen: position indicator redraws itself Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 22:14:53 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Does anyone know why every 30 or 60 seconds the indicator that tells you how far you are in a message (73%, TOP, BOT, etc.) redraws itself? This is in Pine 3.91. Is it likely that the length of the message will change or that you will change positions in the message w/o pressing any keys? Will this be eliminated or optional in future releases? I posted about this several months ago, but I didn't know exactly what was redrawing itself. People thought I was talking about the mail check cue or was crazy, but now through the benefits of a SLOW connection, I have figured out what it is. - Jeff From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 06:56:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20924; Fri, 12 May 95 06:56:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03130; Fri, 12 May 95 06:46:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03124; Fri, 12 May 95 06:46:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9uwP-00038gC; Fri, 12 May 95 06:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) Subject: Re: filtering, once and for all Date: 11 May 1995 09:33:48 GMT Message-Id: <3osllt$3uc@news.primenet.com> References: <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com> <3ooj9j$5p9@crl.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: Erin A. O'Neill (eon@crl.com) wrote: >You all posted some nice info on mail headers & pine but if I understand >the question right it's how do you filter ? >In the pine docs & manual it says you gotta get another software to >filter & most sites offer the elm filter (at the Unix prompt type >which filter) I set up a filter to send my listEmail to different folders >to separate my work Email from my list Email. If you are interested in >the gory details send me Email & I'll send you the how-tos. Thank you for the file. Your quick-start instructions took all of three minutes to implement and then I began to read the full length doc. About 30 minutes into it I was curious so suspended reading and did a quick check of mail. Wonders, but there it was. All mail ever so neatly residing in respective file/folders I want incoming mail to be filtered into (a few listservs are for business so I created a single file/folder BIZ for those lists to collectively go into and makes for much faster skimming in the morning when I haven't time to spare, then separate files/folders for more casual listservs, each file/folder named apropos the list. Personal email, not desiring to filter it, goes to the Inbox as before.) Excellent. I use NEWMAIL to notify me of newmail while online and modified its command string to include my BIZ mail folder as well. Works fine. Quite a difference now, to load Pine and just see my personal email, then go to respective folders to view listserv mail. Again, thanks. P.S. What I don't understand is why it's taken so long to find this very easy information. I've asked everywhere and nobody has a straight answer. System Administrators, tech support, UNIX gurus, nada, when 'lo, I finally receive the info and in some 15 lines of explanation and 3 minutes later, it's installed and working fine. I dunno. Sometimes I wonder about this "Information Highway." Anyway, pardon my spleen, I was just exhaling the pent up frustration I was experiencing now that it's over. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 07:01:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21079; Fri, 12 May 95 07:01:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04985; Fri, 12 May 95 06:47:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04979; Fri, 12 May 95 06:47:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9v2j-00038qC; Fri, 12 May 95 06:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: freimuts@acs.ryerson.ca (Roberts Freimuts) Subject: Re: filtering, once and for all Date: 12 May 1995 12:31:47 GMT Message-Id: <3ovkfj$q2g@hermes.acs.ryerson.ca> References: <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com> <3ost0s$dad@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <3ot84l$l69@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3ou3lq$ibb@news.primenet.com> <3ouj1i$r7i@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: FILTER, ELM, PROCMAIL etc....? Where can these programs be gotten so that we can all try them? Roberts Freimuts From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 07:02:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21110; Fri, 12 May 95 07:02:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04959; Fri, 12 May 95 06:46:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04953; Fri, 12 May 95 06:46:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9uw7-00038oC; Fri, 12 May 95 06:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: errol@io.org (Errol Porter) Subject: Distribution Lists in Addressbook Date: 12 May 1995 08:15:32 -0400 Message-Id: <3ovjh4$183@ionews.io.org> Status: O X-Status: What is the format (ie, syntax) for Distribution Lists? Is a comma required after each entry? Can you only put one entry per line? I have tried adding a large number of entries from a file directly into ".addressbook". When I went to "compose" in Pine so send a message to list, a message appeared that I did not have commas (I had commas after each entry). Any advice would be most welcome. Thanks -- Errol Porter Horizon Books rare & out-of-print | Travel, Voyages & Exploration errol@io.org (416) 226-4282 | Natural History From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 07:08:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21301; Fri, 12 May 95 07:08:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03184; Fri, 12 May 95 06:52:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03178; Fri, 12 May 95 06:52:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9v7V-00038gC; Fri, 12 May 95 06:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Christian Jonsson Subject: Re: Running Pine with emacs (elegantly) Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 15:44:05 +0200 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 11 May 1995 fxars@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu wrote: > I've searched their web site, and can't find it, though I've seen it > before somewhere. >=20 > How does one get pine to access an existing emacs job, instead of > creating an extra emacs when alt editor is invoked? More importantly, > where do I find it in the docs? (perhaps it's in emacs, though I've > checked the info files). >=20 > Post the answer, send me email, do whatever, I'll get the answer. > =3D=3D=3D Al >=20 >=20 It's in emacs *and* pine. Here's how! (It's in the info tree...) (1) Do "setenv EDITOR emacsclient" (or equivalent...) (does not do the trick for pine but for other applications though..) (2) Start emacs=20 (3) Within emacs (or from ~/.emacs) do M-x server-start. (4) In pine (Setup - Config - Editor) set editor to emacs (or in ~/.pinerc) When using it, remember to execute a M-x server-edit when you're through=20 editing. This makes emacs save, exit, and notify the client (i.e. pine)=20 that it's done. That's it! ______________________________________________________________________ Christian J=F6nsson (MIME) E-mail: cj@isy.liu.se Division of Data Transmission Telephone: (+46) 13 28 26 53 Department of Electrical Engineering Telefax: (+46) 13 28 13 39 Link=F6ping University, SWEDEN Mobile: (+46) 70 575 61 06 WWW: http://merlin.isy.liu.se/user?cj/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jamtland, Jamtland, j=E4mt =E5 st=E4ndut... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 07:27:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21847; Fri, 12 May 95 07:27:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05335; Fri, 12 May 95 07:07:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.bridgeway.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05329; Fri, 12 May 95 07:07:34 -0700 Received: by server.bridgeway.com id <207660>; Fri, 12 May 1995 07:07:27 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 07:07:20 -0700 From: Andrew Le To: David L Miller Cc: Yee Tian , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: building pine with mailx In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, I tried to use the aliases file and updating it with newaliases on SunOS to redirect mail from a nonexistent user to a valid user... but this doesnt seem to work... Help... ================================================================== Andrew Le From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 07:29:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21936; Fri, 12 May 95 07:29:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05466; Fri, 12 May 95 07:17:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05460; Fri, 12 May 95 07:17:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9vPY-00038gC; Fri, 12 May 95 07:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: teale@acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca (Debbie Teale) Subject: Elm FAQ Hypertext version Date: 9 May 1995 18:00:14 GMT Message-Id: <3ooaje$a6m@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca> Status: O X-Status: Has any work been done on the Elm FAQ to turn it into a nifty Web document similar to the Filter and Signature ones? I have tried to contact the FAQ owner at strider.inet.it but this host seems to be out of connection right now. I notice that the FAQ hasn't changed since December. -- Deborah Teale, University of Calgary E-mail: teale@acs.ucalgary.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 07:43:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22266; Fri, 12 May 95 07:43:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05714; Fri, 12 May 95 07:33:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hopper.acs.ryerson.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05708; Fri, 12 May 95 07:32:57 -0700 Received: from [141.117.9.14] by hopper.acs.ryerson.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA90069; Fri, 12 May 1995 10:34:30 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 10:34:09 -0900 (PDT) From: Marc Elbirt To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu, pine-help@cac.washington.edu, pine@cac.washington.edu Subject: Printing in PC-Pine for Windows X-Sender: mElbirt@hopper.acs.ryerson.ca Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I first sent this message about two weeks ago, and received no answer... I'm hoping *SOMEBODY* knows how to help me... PLEASE!!!!???? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 16:32:29 -0900 (PDT) From: Marc Elbirt To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Printing in PC-Pine for Windows When I print from PC-Pine for Windows, I get condensed print (132 columns, about 100 lines per page). This is unacceptable and unreadable. How do I change this to a more standard printout of 80 columns and 60 lines per page? I tried Setup|Printer from the Main Menu, but the program responds with nothing but a short pause. I am running Windows for Workgroups 3.11 with an HP LaserJet IIIp, all properly configured. I am using Pine 3.91, downloaded about 4 weeks ago. Thank you in advance, Marc Elbirt Undersecretary to the Dean ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Faculty of Applied Arts Ryerson Polytechnic University 350 Victoria Street Phone: (416) 979-5012 Toronto, Ontario Fax: (416) 979-5226 Canada M5B 2K3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 09:25:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27085; Fri, 12 May 95 09:25:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05999; Fri, 12 May 95 09:17:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05985; Fri, 12 May 95 09:17:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9xK9-0003AEC; Fri, 12 May 95 09:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Re: Distribution Lists in Addressbook Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 11:57:49 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3ovjh4$183@ionews.io.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3ovjh4$183@ionews.io.org> Status: O X-Status: On 12 May 1995, Errol Porter wrote: > Date: 12 MAY 1995 08:15:32 -0400 > From: Errol Porter > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Distribution Lists in Addressbook > > What is the format (ie, syntax) for Distribution Lists? Is a comma required > after each entry? Can you only put one entry per line? > [...] Sorry that I don't have a specific answer for your problem. So far I have not needed to take the time to discover tha exact internal format of the .addressbook file (Unix flavor). One possiblity could be that Pine manages .addressbook entries with some non-displaying white space characters, most notably TAB. (This may or may not be so.) If you have access to an editor that can display a file or file lines in hexadecimal, that could show you whether you have some non-displaying characters separating the file fields. (TAB has the ASCII value 9; sometimes it can be entered with a Ctrl-I, depending on the editor.) Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 09:46:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27975; Fri, 12 May 95 09:46:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08458; Fri, 12 May 95 09:32:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08452; Fri, 12 May 95 09:32:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9xV2-00038mC; Fri, 12 May 95 09:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: a.k.heath@shu.ac.uk (Andy Heath) Subject: where PC-PINE Please Date: 12 May 1995 14:18:22 GMT Message-Id: <3ovqne$pk6@ash.shu.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: I've seen people refer to PC-Pine on this newsgroup. I've searched all the places I know about and can't find it. Can anyone help and tell me where I can get it from please. Please copy reply by email ... i am not always able to access newsgroups here THANKYOU !!!!! Andy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 09:54:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28427; Fri, 12 May 95 09:54:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08774; Fri, 12 May 95 09:48:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08768; Fri, 12 May 95 09:48:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9xrE-0003ADC; Fri, 12 May 95 09:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Subject: Re: What the heck is xbiff? Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 09:35:12 +0100 Message-Id: References: <3o5j97$6lk@empire.texas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3o5j97$6lk@empire.texas.net> Status: O X-Status: It's a program that will stick a cute little picture of a mailbox up on your screen, and when you get new mail, a flag will tell you so. For fiddling options: man xbiff ? :) ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(,_(,)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>, _>, WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ On 2 May 1995, GT Cherer wrote: > and where do i find how to fiddle with it?? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 09:56:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28492; Fri, 12 May 95 09:56:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06616; Fri, 12 May 95 09:48:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06610; Fri, 12 May 95 09:48:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9xrA-00038oC; Fri, 12 May 95 09:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Subject: Re: Leaving read messages in INBOX Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 09:33:09 +0100 Message-Id: References: <3nr97q$nlt@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> <3o2ll8$mm5@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> <3o57ls$7jm@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3o57ls$7jm@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au> Status: O X-Status: Even if you've got read-messages="" ? ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(,_(,)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>, _>, WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ On 2 May 1995, Julian Boot wrote: > With 3.91 at home under Linux this work fine. But on the Ultrix machine > at uni, even with read-messages= set to nothing, it still prompts you > to "Save read...in read-mail [Y/N]". From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 10:28:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29535; Fri, 12 May 95 10:28:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07356; Fri, 12 May 95 10:23:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07349; Fri, 12 May 95 10:23:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9yO8-00038bC; Fri, 12 May 95 10:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harp@diesel.utcc.utk.edu (Sean Harp) Subject: PINE 3.91 ported to AIX 4.1.2 yet? Date: 11 May 1995 15:51:15 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I've been trying to compile Pine 3.91 under AIX 4.1.2 and it is proving to be quite challenging (actually, trying to compile much of anything under 4.1.2 is challenging). Is there an official port to AIX 4.1.2 being done? Should I just wait or attempt it myself? Sean From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 11:08:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01019; Fri, 12 May 95 11:08:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10378; Fri, 12 May 95 11:04:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10372; Fri, 12 May 95 11:04:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s9z34-00038oC; Fri, 12 May 95 11:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jwatson@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Jeff Watson) Subject: Getting rid of uname/passwd prompt with Imapd Message-Id: <1995May9.175614.13793@nosc.mil> Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 17:56:14 GMT Status: O X-Status: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 13:21:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06419; Fri, 12 May 95 13:21:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10718; Fri, 12 May 95 13:15:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10712; Fri, 12 May 95 13:15:20 -0700 Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V4.3-13 #2001) id <01HQF0P0TJ348WW9XS@INNOSOFT.COM>; Fri, 12 May 1995 13:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 13:14:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Portia Shao Subject: Re: Moving messages from VAX/VMS to UNIX/Berkeley In-Reply-To: To: Mike Brudenell Cc: Pine Info Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 12 May 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Hi! > > We are in the process of discontinuing our old VAX/VMS service (scheduled > to be switched off at the end of June). Instead all our users are moving > to UNIX (actually IRIX on SGI boxes) and will be using Pine for their mail. > > A lot of people (thankfully) have been making the move over the past year. > > However some people have been using the VAX/VMS service right to the > bitter end, and have a number of mail messages they'd like to "take with > them" to UNIX. > > I was thinking of a little utility that could be used to read the > messages saved from VAX mail using an "EXTRACT/ALL" command (messages are > written into a file separated with Line Feeds) and write a Berkeley > format mailbox. > > Then I wondered if anyone had already faced this problem and either > written such a utility already, or had some other suggestion. I have written a little utility which depends on you having an IMAP2 server on both systems to move the mail from one system to another. Since PMDF is the only VMS package which comes with an IMAP server on the VMS side, this depends on you having PMDF on your VMS system. If you do have it and are willing to try it out, send me mail, and we'll arrange something. > > Anyone? (he said, hopefully! :-) > > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 > > /portia portia@innosoft.com Innosoft International Inc. (818)919-3600 voice, (818)919-3614 fax 1050 East Garvey Ave South, West Covina, CA 91790 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 14:27:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09028; Fri, 12 May 95 14:27:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11925; Fri, 12 May 95 14:17:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11919; Fri, 12 May 95 14:17:30 -0700 Received: from elvis.med.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id ab28687; 12 May 95 17:17 EDT Received: by elvis.med.Virginia.EDU (5.65c/1.34) id AA21157; Fri, 12 May 1995 17:17:29 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 17:17:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven D. Majewski" X-Sender: sdm7g@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU To: Mike Brudenell Cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Moving messages from VAX/VMS to UNIX/Berkeley In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > On Fri, 12 May 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > We are in the process of discontinuing our old VAX/VMS service (scheduled > > to be switched off at the end of June). Instead all our users are moving > > to UNIX (actually IRIX on SGI boxes) and will be using Pine for their mail. > > > > A lot of people (thankfully) have been making the move over the past year. > > > > However some people have been using the VAX/VMS service right to the > > bitter end, and have a number of mail messages they'd like to "take with > > them" to UNIX. > > > > I was thinking of a little utility that could be used to read the > > messages saved from VAX mail using an "EXTRACT/ALL" command (messages are > > written into a file separated with Line Feeds) and write a Berkeley > > format mailbox. > > > > Then I wondered if anyone had already faced this problem and either > > written such a utility already, or had some other suggestion. > I have managed to use 'formail' ( from the procmail package ) to do this, but I don't recall the details - mainly, because I did it more than once with slightly different methods, with various levels of success at different occasions, but all of them were quite some time ago. I do recall that I had some trouble getting the date set correctly. Some mailers ( I think pine was one ) are more strict than others on the format of a "From " line and expected the date to be in the proper format. Formail can generate a date if there is none in the message, but since there was a "Date:" *VMS* header ( not in rfc822 format ), it just appended the improper date to the "From " line. I think I made two (or more) passes, temporarily renaming the "Date:" header lines to "X-Date:", so that it would regenerate a "From " line with the proper syntax, and then changing them back to "Date:" lines, so that the mailers would display the proper date. ( I guess that effectively made "arrival" date the same for all the messages, but the send date was at least correct, if not correct rfc822 syntax. ) On one of the attempts, I also recompiled formail with a different message separator defined, but I don't recall if I needed this the last time, but I don't recall what methods or switches I used to get it to separate the messages properly. If you try this, be sure to get a count of the number of messages from VMS, and then check that you see the correct number from the unix mailer - if you don't, then some messages may have gotten wrongly concatenated ( i.e. not gotten properly separated! ) ---| Steven D. Majewski (804-982-0831) |--- ---| Computer Systems Engineer University of Virginia |--- ---| Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics |--- ---| Box 449 Health Science Center Charlottesville,VA 22908 |--- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 14:42:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09857; Fri, 12 May 95 14:42:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15230; Fri, 12 May 95 14:37:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15222; Fri, 12 May 95 14:37:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sA1iN-00038bC; Fri, 12 May 95 13:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tim Naylor Subject: news clipping Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 15:12:03 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: If I want to save to a folder selected bits from certain postings in a news group what's the best way to do it? I could save to a plain file and exit to edit (doesn't sound neat), or forward the message to myself and edit it before sending, but there ought to be a better way. Unix isn't my strong suit BTW. Thanks, ______________________________________________________________ | Tim Naylor email: phrgv@csv.warwick.ac.uk | | Physics ASR Group | | University of Warwick tel: 01203 523903 | |___COVENTRY CV4 7AL, UK_________fax:____"____692016___________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 16:38:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16793; Fri, 12 May 95 16:38:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14965; Fri, 12 May 95 16:26:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14959; Fri, 12 May 95 16:25:59 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08781; Fri, 12 May 95 16:25:57 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 16:25:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Jeff Morris Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: View Message Screen: position indicator redraws itself In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 11 May 1995, Jeff Morris wrote: > Does anyone know why every 30 or 60 seconds the indicator that tells you > how far you are in a message (73%, TOP, BOT, etc.) redraws itself? This > is in Pine 3.91. Is it likely that the length of the message will change > or that you will change positions in the message w/o pressing any keys? > Will this be eliminated or optional in future releases? This is probably happening every time there is a check for new mail, which by default is every 2.5 minutes. I don't see how it could be happening every 30 or 60 seconds, unless the default time has been changed in your sources. The reason it does this is because it's a lot easier to just draw the percentage every time than it is to figure out whether or not the percentage changed and/or the screen changed since the last percentage was drawn. It hasn't been fixed for next version so far. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 16:42:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16970; Fri, 12 May 95 16:42:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18009; Fri, 12 May 95 16:32:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18003; Fri, 12 May 95 16:32:03 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09601; Fri, 12 May 95 16:32:00 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 16:31:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: "Douglas M. Bates" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Unix Pine: Must the config be in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > I am configuring Pine 3.91 for several different types of Unix systems in > our department. Because we discourage the use of directories in the > /usr/local/ hierarchy, I would like to keep the global configuration file > in a location other than /usr/local/lib/pine.conf. I had hoped that > there would be a variable in the makefile to set this but I can't see > one. In fact, a grep of the source code directory seems to indicate that > the name /usr/local/lib/pine.conf occurs as exactly that string in a > number of locations in the source code and the help files. > > Douglas Bates bates@stat.wisc.edu > Statistics Department 608/262-2598 > University of Wisconsin - Madison http://www.stat.wisc.edu/~bates/ There is a definition for SYSTEM_PINERC in the file src/pine/osdep/os-xxx.h, where xxx is replaced by the three letters appropriate for the port you're using. You should just need to change that. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 17:20:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18995; Fri, 12 May 95 17:20:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15997; Fri, 12 May 95 17:10:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15991; Fri, 12 May 95 17:10:24 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11631; Fri, 12 May 95 17:10:16 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 17:10:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Neil Harkins Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: .pinerc: cross-linked file error In-Reply-To: <3olkq9$cjc@noc2.drexel.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: It probably means that pine is trying to rename the temporary file it built while rewriting the pinerc file and that temporary file is on a different file system. It's kind of hard to come up with reasons why this might happen. I you don't have write and execute access on your home directory, I think that would cause it... Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On 8 May 1995, Neil Harkins wrote: > All of a sudden I started getting this error when I start pine: > > [Error saving configuration in file "/home/neil/.pinerc": Cross-device link] > > Any ideas what "cross-device link" means? > > -Neil Harkins > st92bpfv@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 19:10:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21075; Fri, 12 May 95 19:10:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17303; Fri, 12 May 95 19:07:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17297; Fri, 12 May 95 19:07:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sA6X6-00038bC; Fri, 12 May 95 19:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matthews@isc.sjsu.edu (Eric Matthews) Subject: What Platforms Does Pine Support? Date: 12 May 1995 19:27:50 GMT Message-Id: <3p0crm$191@nic-nac.CSU.net> Status: O X-Status: What platforms are supported--Mac, DOS, Windows, SGI? What's do great about PINE? How does it compase to Eudora, Pegasus, etc.? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 19:11:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21151; Fri, 12 May 95 19:11:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20652; Fri, 12 May 95 19:07:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20646; Fri, 12 May 95 19:07:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sA6Z1-00038oC; Fri, 12 May 95 19:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lmiller@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx (Larry Miller [DT]) Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 on SCO outside US Date: 12 May 1995 12:28:19 -0600 Message-Id: <3p09c3$1b9@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx> References: Status: O X-Status: Thommy Brolin (ntb@tcisswe.itis.se) wrote: > The problem is that the build script (using 'build sco') can't > find 'libcrypt.a', which I have been told is not allowed to be > exported from the U.S., hence not included in my version of SCO. > Does anyone out there know a way round this problem? Yes. Get support level supplement lng225b from sosco.sco.com; that has a limited crypt library that will solve the problem. Larry Miller Administrador de Redes / Network Administrator Centro de Investigaciones Biologicas del Noroeste, La Paz, BCS Mexico lmiller@cibnor.conacyt.mx From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 19:50:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21878; Fri, 12 May 95 19:50:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17725; Fri, 12 May 95 19:47:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17719; Fri, 12 May 95 19:47:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sA7AN-00038oC; Fri, 12 May 95 19:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) Subject: Re: filtering, once and for all Date: 11 May 1995 22:38:50 GMT Message-Id: <3ou3lq$ibb@news.primenet.com> References: <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com> <3ojidp$1l6b@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3ost0s$dad@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <3ot84l$l69@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: I'm afraid I disagree with your attitude. You seem to think everyone should work the way you do and that anything else is, uhh, organized procastination. Bull. Software ulitmately belongs to the user and flexibility is paramount. Now that I'm able to fully filter incoming mail, I have already seen how much FASTER certain mail is tended to, and how much EASIER it is to deal with it all. You get 200 mails a day? I get that from but one listserv and within there is professional needs to be dealt with. Similarly, some mail can be filtered/forwarded to staff for faster expediting. Another thing I can now do is auto filter/collate mail by days of week (and even times of day) to go directly into daily reports folders that automatically become available via Web page links per day of week. No need for physically doing this anymore, no depending on somebody always doing it even if they over sleep or are sick or have an emergency to tend to, whatever. So I respectfully disagree with you on this. You tell me how I'm supposed to "think of email", tell another they should read thousands of mail in the same way you do, and so on. I believe instead people should work as THEY prefer and via their own zone. Cordially, Bob BTW, the filtering agent I'm using is FILTER and works just fine through any of the mail programs since as you say it's not the mail agent, but the filter agent; the mail agent then offers up the mail. That's of course best since it allows us Pine users to use Pine, Elm users to use Elm, Mail users to use Mail, and everybody's happy. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 19:55:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21993; Fri, 12 May 95 19:55:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21246; Fri, 12 May 95 19:52:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21240; Fri, 12 May 95 19:52:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sA7GJ-00038bC; Fri, 12 May 95 19:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Todd@psg.com, J.Raeker@psg.com Subject: Sudden pine 3.91 problems Date: 11 May 1995 14:17:05 GMT Message-Id: <3ot691$6h3@ns.mcs.kent.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hello pine experts, I have encountered a very strange problem with pine 3.91 under AIX 3.2.5 that I wonder if anyone could shed some light on. Heres the story. I've been using pine without any trouble on my RS/6000 for three months until I had to reinstall AIX 3.2.5 from a new tape distribution. Now when using pine it hangs whenever I send mail. I get the message Writing Fcc but pine just sits without any response or activity. Eventually I give up and kill my xterm window. The same behavior occurs if I try to read the sent-mail file. All other uses of pine are fine except for these two. I can read all the mail I want but when I send one message, pine hangs. The message does get sent by the way. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Regards Todd Raeker From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 20:40:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22791; Fri, 12 May 95 20:40:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21812; Fri, 12 May 95 20:36:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from balder.ssds.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21806; Fri, 12 May 95 20:36:45 -0700 Received: (from mail@localhost) by balder.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) id VAA29093 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 21:33:23 -0600 Received: from denver(134.127.16.1) by balder via smap (V1.3) id sma029091; Fri May 12 21:33:19 1995 Received: from chicago.ssds.com (chicago.ssds.com [134.127.26.1]) by denver.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) with SMTP id VAA05739 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 21:33:16 -0600 Received: by chicago.ssds.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA21847; Fri, 12 May 1995 22:33:14 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 22:33:13 -0500 (CDT) From: James Weaver - Chicago X-Sender: jew@chicago To: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT Status: O X-Status: unsubscribe pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 20:56:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23123; Fri, 12 May 95 20:56:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18410; Fri, 12 May 95 20:52:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18404; Fri, 12 May 95 20:52:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sA8FY-00038bC; Fri, 12 May 95 20:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: amehdiza@violin.aix.calpoly.edu (Ali Mehdizadeh) Subject: Spelling Date: 11 May 1995 23:34:59 GMT Message-Id: <3ou6v3$bko@isnews.csc.calpoly.edu> Status: O X-Status: Does anybody know how the spelling part of pine work? Thanks amehdiza@violin.aix.calpoly.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 21:03:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23365; Fri, 12 May 95 21:03:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22109; Fri, 12 May 95 21:00:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22103; Fri, 12 May 95 21:00:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sA8Is-00038oC; Fri, 12 May 95 20:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: filtering, once and for all Date: 11 May 1995 14:48:53 GMT Message-Id: <3ot84l$l69@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com> <3ojidp$1l6b@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3ost0s$dad@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <3ost0s$dad@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, Wayne Wilson wrote: > The plus sign helps but is not totally sufficient. In my office, >we nearly alwasys include other people in mail, especially mail that >talks about business and setting up meetings. So it is rather rare >for me to get any mail with a plus sign on it at all. I still have >the problem of not knowing if the mail is from a list or not. >Filtering will be the only hope, given the nature of lists. I might >very well have to change e-mail packages soon just to get filtering. And why would you change email user agents? Simply out of spite for Pine not doing what you want? And what mail user agent, pray tell, will give you this filtering that you so desire? I can't think of one. One last time, and listen VERY CAREFULLY: mail-filtering agents and mail-user agents are TOTALLY SEPARATE. Different animals, they aren't used in the same way, don't get invoked the same way, and most certainly do not do the jobs of the other. You're not going to use procmail anytime soon to read your mail (though I once had a wizardly friend who set up procmail to find him on the campus network and pop up a window every time a mail arrived). And you won't, ever, filter your mail when you're not logged in using Pine (unless the development group has something up their sleeves they're not telling us about... :) People whining about their humongous amounts of mail...a few years back when I posted a now-published essay, I got 2,000 individual responses in the course of four days. I dealt with it, not by using a filtering agent, but by staying up late and answering each and every positive email, and throwing out all the negative. :) And today I get an average of two hundred messages a day...I just have everything land in one INBOX and I deal with it. How? If I have time, then I read everything. Big deal, no fuss. If I have less time, then I move all my religious mailing-list mail (which is 60% of my email these days...Unitarians are motormouths!) to another folder for later reading, using the (;) Select command. If I really don't have time, then I just throw away all the list mail and I select mail that is To: or Cc:'d explicitly to me to read immediately, and set aside the rest for later. I still have a few hundred messages always in my INBOX (if you're more organized, there's no need to have more than a couple dozen, but, hey, I'm a sysadmin), but my method at least means that all the mail at the front of the INBOX is mostly mailing list or junk mail, while the mail at the latest end is mostly directed to me. When I've used filtering agents, it's been either to throw away mail I absolutely, positively, never want to see again (like a chain-letter that I kept getting again, and again, and again--I just auto-forwarded it to the postmaster at the originating site) or when I've wanted certain mail to change media--become a fax or a pager message. I don't see where filtering agents give you any more time. They just give you organization, and automated procrastination. :) And that's a great boon for some, but for others it isn't really needed. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 21:06:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23447; Fri, 12 May 95 21:06:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18536; Fri, 12 May 95 21:02:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18530; Fri, 12 May 95 21:02:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sA8Ma-00038bC; Fri, 12 May 95 20:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ha4bro@orac.sunderland.ac.uk (ben.rose) Subject: News-Reader Date: 11 May 1995 15:46:04 +0100 Message-Id: <3ot7vc$ckl@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: I am currently trying to setup my version of Unix Pine 3.89 so I cam use it as a newsreader instead of tin. I have edited the appropriate section in my .pinerc file to make it possible to read the said newsgroups but I can't figure out a way of getting them to post. I notice the incoming posts have a 'Newsgroups:' header. I do not have one of these. Do I need one? If so how do I add one if it's possible. I would be most grateful for help on this as it annoys me I have to run tin and pine at the moment. Ben Rose From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 21:18:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23714; Fri, 12 May 95 21:18:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22294; Fri, 12 May 95 21:15:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22288; Fri, 12 May 95 21:15:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sA8YX-00038bC; Fri, 12 May 95 21:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Missing USENET Message Bodies Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 11:06:12 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am wondering if anyone else has encountered this problem. I ran it by my service provider's help desk, and all I got was a "Dunno. Never heard of it. Send in a bug report." I use Pine 3.91 under Unix. The problem has occurred _only_ with incoming USENET newsgroup postings, never with email. Sometimes, seemingly at random, the entire message body is missing -- only the header appears. It can be a bit annoying, particularly when the subject line leads me to think that I would be especially interested in the message. Has anyone else run into this? Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 12 23:35:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26303; Fri, 12 May 95 23:35:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20000; Fri, 12 May 95 23:32:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19994; Fri, 12 May 95 23:32:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sAAhr-00038oC; Fri, 12 May 95 23:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: h9397584@hkusua (Michael Agelasto) Subject: Re: Spelling Message-Id: References: <3oofk1$imi@isnews.calpoly.edu> Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 00:27:37 GMT Status: O X-Status: This question is answered about once a month and also in FAQ but I have been unable to figure out how to do it. Maybe you will have better luck. -- ===================================================================== Michael Agelasto Phone: (852) 2858-1914 Department of Education (852) 2549-5678 (res) University of Hong Kong Fax: (852) 2857-9279 Hong Kong email: michael@hkusub.hku.hk ===================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 13 06:54:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05572; Sat, 13 May 95 06:54:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29347; Sat, 13 May 95 06:48:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29341; Sat, 13 May 95 06:48:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sAHPU-00038nC; Sat, 13 May 95 06:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Moving messages from VAX/VMS to UNIX/Berkeley Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 17:57:27 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 12 May 1995, Steven D. Majewski wrote: > Some mailers ( I think pine was one ) are more strict than others > on the format of a "From " line and expected the date to be in the > proper format. For the record, this is true. There is a reason why it is this way. We wanted to avoid the lossage with message text lines that begin with the word "From"; specifically that a ">" character gets inserted in front of them. But, we also had to avoid the hokey "Content-Length:" header (it's a long story). This was a requirement; our local users were getting pissed off at the bogus ">" characters in their messages. [Of course, another alternative is to use a format other than Unix mbox format...] The solution we came up with is that our mail delivery tools do *not* insert the ">" character in front of lines that begin with "From", unless it is in a very precise format that is certain to be a message delimiter. In turn, Pine does not consider a line that beings with "From" to be a message delimiter unless it is in that precise format. There are 20 variants of "From" header line that Pine recognizes. Most mail delivery tools blindly insert the ">" in front of all message lines that begins with "From", and most mail readers blindly declare any line that begins with "From" to be the start of a message. The problem comes in when a mail delivery tool uses some format of "From" delimiter which is not one of the 20 that Pine knows about. To date, all of these episodes have been caused by site-local tools and not by any known widely-distributed software. But this can cause the situation of "other tools work but Pine does not." Partisans of the infamous "Content-Length:" mechanism may chime in and say that they don't have this problem. They're right; they have a completely different set of problems that are potentially worse. ;-) ANYWAY... For the most part, it works. I'm fairly confident that the 20 supported variants cover what is actually out there. I'm aware of a few additional variants but as noted above they seem to be more due to local mistakes. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 13 11:39:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10288; Sat, 13 May 95 11:39:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26904; Sat, 13 May 95 11:25:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26898; Sat, 13 May 95 11:25:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sALox-00039HC; Sat, 13 May 95 11:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Adriel Ickler Subject: Sorting by Ordered Subject vs Subject Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 11:45:01 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: What is the difference between Ordered Sorting & normal, Ex. Ordered Subject.? I looked in the help file but could not find a definition. thanks! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 13 12:47:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11706; Sat, 13 May 95 12:47:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03676; Sat, 13 May 95 12:40:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03670; Sat, 13 May 95 12:40:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sAMxb-00038sC; Sat, 13 May 95 12:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stefan Berg Subject: Newbie question: Organization field when posting by NNTP? Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 20:30:10 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi there! I'm all new to Pine, but I have a question to which I have been unable to find any answer in the Pine documentation: When posting to Usenet from Pine by NNTP to my ISP, Pine apparently does not enter an "Organization:" field in the header of the posting. My ISP detects this, and happily inserts that field himself - unfortunately, by adding his organization and not mine... :-( Question: Can I make Pine insert that field, or shall I make a small patch of my own? -- Stefan Berg Consultron Data sfb@consultron.se From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 13 16:00:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15018; Sat, 13 May 95 16:00:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29425; Sat, 13 May 95 15:55:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29419; Sat, 13 May 95 15:55:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sAQ26-00038SC; Sat, 13 May 95 15:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: e0f8et4k@tuzo.erin (ESPINOZA JAIME C) Subject: Mail forwarding in pine. Message-Id: Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 16:02:31 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi folks. Quick question.. I just want to know the precise format to use in the .forward file for forwarding messages to another location. I know it is simply one line, but like most things.. I forgot (duh!). I appreciate it someone could just respond either here or through email with the appropriate line I need. Thanks.. Jaime E. -- . | . "As I lay forgotten and alone, without .8~ . , ~8. __\|/__ o a tear I draw my parting groan." o Y$@@$"~qp~"$@@$P \ + / !Y~` e0f8et4k@credit.erin.utoronto.ca '~Y! d*8LJ8*b rev13.18 / )..o Jaime 'Bill Z. Bub' Espinoza o..( \ !"'! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 13 16:56:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16012; Sat, 13 May 95 16:56:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06505; Sat, 13 May 95 16:47:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06499; Sat, 13 May 95 16:47:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sAQq1-00038RC; Sat, 13 May 95 16:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: In pine how can you read headers? Message-Id: <1739CD355S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <3oudp9$bm1@smarty.smart.net> Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 14:01:38 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <3oudp9$bm1@smarty.smart.net> kovler@smart.net (Ken Kovler) writes: >Some times I would like to read how my mail is routed. How can you >display this in pine? In Setup/Config, make sure that enable-full-header command is enabled. Then when viewing mail, the H command will turn full header display on. I read that in the documentation, I'm sure you could too. Does that not produce the result that you want? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 13 19:48:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18838; Sat, 13 May 95 19:48:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08649; Sat, 13 May 95 19:44:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dcv31b.phs.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08643; Sat, 13 May 95 19:44:35 -0700 Received: from raven.phs.com by DCV31B.PHS.COM (PMDF V4.3-7 #4056) id <01HQGSN14040000NE2@DCV31B.PHS.COM>; Sat, 13 May 1995 19:45:42 PDT Received: by raven.phs.com; (5.65/1.1.8.2/08Nov94-0901AM) id AA26598; Sat, 13 May 1995 19:44:26 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 19:44:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hatz Subject: Re: Mail forwarding in pine. In-Reply-To: To: ESPINOZA JAIME C Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 13 May 1995, ESPINOZA JAIME C wrote: > > Hi folks. > Quick question.. I just want to know the precise format > to use in the .forward file for forwarding messages to another > location. I know it is simply one line, but like most things.. in the .forward put the address you want mail forwarded to. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 13 23:25:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22638; Sat, 13 May 95 23:25:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03691; Sat, 13 May 95 23:22:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03685; Sat, 13 May 95 23:22:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sAX0f-00038UC; Sat, 13 May 95 23:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hugh Subject: Re: NEWS SERVER: HELP! Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 06:26:47 +1200 Message-Id: References: <3nsno8$n9d@crl10.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3nsno8$n9d@crl10.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: On 28 Apr 1995, Shinichi Yoshimoto wrote: > I'm struggling to set up my PINE to access to news groups. Where can I > find the list of available remote or local news server? I tried > 'news.ucla.edu' and received the message, "connection refused'. Any help > would be appreciated. Open up Tin and look at the starting up lines. It should tell you what news server you are accessing. Then go into configuration and add value of what you found under nntp From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 13 23:45:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22982; Sat, 13 May 95 23:45:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11515; Sat, 13 May 95 23:42:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11509; Sat, 13 May 95 23:42:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sAXLx-00038CC; Sat, 13 May 95 23:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ntb@tcisswe.itis.se (Thommy Brolin) Subject: Pine 3.91 on SCO outside US Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 14:36:15 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I'm an ELM user in Sweden that has been suggested to use PINE instead of ELM. I got Pine 3.91 from an account in Norway, and tried to install it on my Compaq Deskpro XL running SCO UNIX 3.2v4.2, but it wouldn't build correctly (pico did, nothing else). The problem is that the build script (using 'build sco') can't find 'libcrypt.a', which I have been told is not allowed to be exported from the U.S., hence not included in my version of SCO. Does anyone out there know a way round this problem? Is there a substitute for 'libcrypt.a', or perhaps another version of Pine that doesn't require it? I would be very happy if someone can help me out. I do apologize if this is a FAQ. Thommy Brolin "Who is General Failure, and why is he reading Drive C?" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 13 23:54:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23135; Sat, 13 May 95 23:54:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03966; Sat, 13 May 95 23:52:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03960; Sat, 13 May 95 23:52:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sAXTl-00038RC; Sat, 13 May 95 23:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Running Pine with emacs (elegantly) Date: 12 May 1995 22:38:14 GMT Message-Id: <3p0o0m$1hh5@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Christian Jonsson wrote: >(4) In pine (Setup - Config - Editor) set editor to emacs (or in ~/.pinerc) Actually, that should be set the editor to "emacsclient", or use the script I posted here earlier to select any editor and enter emacsclient. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 14 05:38:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00895; Sun, 14 May 95 05:38:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15969; Sun, 14 May 95 05:33:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15963; Sun, 14 May 95 05:33:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sAco1-00038RC; Sun, 14 May 95 05:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: green@lark.cc.ukans.edu (Red Green) Subject: Slow newsgroups field Message-Id: <1995May9.142348.92543@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> Date: 9 May 95 14:23:48 CDT Status: O X-Status: Using Pine 3.91 on an OSF/1 box whenever I go into the Newsgroups: field to post to a group, it waits forever before it lets me go onto the next field. Also when I enter several newsgroups it sometimes waits for many minutes before I can go on. Any ideas? -- Laura Green Consultant Academic User Services University of Kansas redgreen@ukans.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 14 08:57:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03802; Sun, 14 May 95 08:57:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09115; Sun, 14 May 95 08:48:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09109; Sun, 14 May 95 08:48:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sAfsD-00038CC; Sun, 14 May 95 08:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbrown@delphi.umd.edu (Jeff Brown) Subject: Pine Configuration Question Date: 12 May 1995 17:49:25 GMT Message-Id: <3p0735$29h@hecate.umd.edu> Status: O X-Status: I appologize if this question is covered in the Docs for pine, but I am reading them currently and have a deadline to work for. I am trying to set up a basic configuration to pine for use by some of the Facaulty, Staff, and Students of the University of Maryland. A problem We are having is that pine sometimes does not list who a message is from in the index. That is, it will say that it is To:userx@machinename , but wont have the more common From:usery@othermachine showing. Is there some compilation option, or configuration option which will fix this, or is there some default that should be changed?? Replies Are welcome by email, as I rarely find time to read news. Note: presently we are not running imapd on the system. -Jeff Brown jbrown@delphi.umd.edu Assistant System Administrator Physics Dept.,U. of MD. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 14 10:21:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05174; Sun, 14 May 95 10:21:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09899; Sun, 14 May 95 10:15:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rupikonna.spt.fi by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09890; Sun, 14 May 95 10:14:59 -0700 Received: by rupikonna.spt.fi (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA14647; Sun, 14 May 1995 19:32:56 --200 Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 19:32:56 +0300 (EET DST) From: Mikko Eskola To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 51 Status: O X-Status: subscribe comp.mail.pine meskola@rupikonna.spt.fi From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 14 10:58:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05692; Sun, 14 May 95 10:58:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19502; Sun, 14 May 95 10:53:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19496; Sun, 14 May 95 10:53:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sAhnQ-00038DC; Sun, 14 May 95 10:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tompkins@earth.cnct.com (tompkins) Subject: Re: Missing USENET Message Bodies Date: 13 May 1995 03:36:35 GMT Message-Id: <3p19g3$fnu@mars.cnct.com> References: Status: O X-Status: Paul O. Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) wrote: : I use Pine 3.91 under Unix. The problem has occurred _only_ with : incoming USENET newsgroup postings, never with email. Sometimes, : seemingly at random, the entire message body is missing -- only the : header appears. It can be a bit annoying, particularly when the subject : line leads me to think that I would be especially interested in the : message. Has anyone else run into this? : Paul There is such a message in this newsgroup right now, but the body *is* missing - I can't find it with TIN either! Sometimes I have hit a wrong key and sent such a message myself. Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 14 12:43:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07530; Sun, 14 May 95 12:43:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11195; Sun, 14 May 95 12:39:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11189; Sun, 14 May 95 12:39:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sAjPw-00038DC; Sun, 14 May 95 12:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Darrell G. Dillahunt" Subject: Pine for my PC Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 13:08:33 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi all, I'm new to this listing and I love pine! I'm using it on my Sun Sparc 5 and it's working out great. Where can I get a copy of pine for my PC? Thanks in advance. ************************************************************************** * Darrell G. Dillahunt E-Mail: dillahun@ctaps.ed.ray.com * * Unix System Administration Phone: (508) 440-3635 * * Raytheon Electronics Systems Div. RayComNet: 7-431-3635 * * Mail Stop : 5-2-505 Fax: (508) 440-2337 * ************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 14 15:01:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09748; Sun, 14 May 95 15:01:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22254; Sun, 14 May 95 14:56:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22248; Sun, 14 May 95 14:56:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sAlZQ-00038DC; Sun, 14 May 95 14:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: PINE 3.91 ported to AIX 4.1.2 yet? Date: 14 May 1995 15:28:31 GMT Message-Id: <3p57iv$1cn6@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Sean Harp wrote: >I've been trying to compile Pine 3.91 under AIX 4.1.2 and it is >proving to be quite challenging (actually, trying to compile much of >anything under 4.1.2 is challenging). Is there an official port to AIX >4.1.2 being done? Should I just wait or attempt it myself? Yep, I can't compile anything on my 4.1.2 box either...compile it on a 3.2.5 box and move the binaries over. Failing that, there are binaries for 3.2.5 on ftp.cac.washington.edu, you can use them just fine. If they don't get gcc to work under 4.1.2 soon, I'm going to take a long vacation until it does... :) -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 14 17:03:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11642; Sun, 14 May 95 17:03:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13492; Sun, 14 May 95 16:59:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13486; Sun, 14 May 95 16:59:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sAnUi-00038IC; Sun, 14 May 95 16:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access1.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Pine on a non-network MSDOS-PC Date: 14 May 1995 17:52:51 GMT Message-Id: <3p5g1j$a44@news3.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: I want to download a mailbox from a Unix site, then process my mail on my own computer using Pine (PC Pine) but apparently I can't just have it issue an exec() call to a mail processing program, it requires the PC have an SLIP connection or a network card. Is there any way to do something like this, e.g. something like a UUCP service, but with less overhead. (Plus, UUCP isn't available on my site.) -- Ask me about Listmgr - the first PC-Based mailing list manager for E-Mail. Find out about "The Gatekeeper: The Gate Contracts" - Write to address below. Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net "The Greatest Philosopher in the World, maybe the Greatest who ever lived." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 14 17:08:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11905; Sun, 14 May 95 17:08:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23723; Sun, 14 May 95 17:04:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23717; Sun, 14 May 95 17:04:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sAnYb-00038KC; Sun, 14 May 95 16:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dweinr1@gl.umbc.edu (David Weinrich) Subject: Re: Q: Pine 3.91 for Mac..does it exist? Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 13:53:27 -0400 Message-Id: References: <1995May8.174149.12958@ludens> Status: O X-Status: In article <1995May8.174149.12958@ludens>, lovas@ludens.elte.hu (Gyorgy A. Lovas) wrote: >Dear Netters, > >I wander if Pine 3.91 has been ported to Mac platform at all. If so, I'd like >to know if it is available for download and from which archive. >Sorry if it is a FAQ, but I was unable to find any pointer. > >Any help or pointer is greatly appreciated. >Thanks in advance > George > >PS: This is my second trial; I hope this time someone responds While I haven't been able to find a PINE version for the MAC, I have been able to find two other programs that handle IMAP fairly good: 1)MailDrop http://ackmo.baylor.edu/files/Mail_Drop/info.html Handles the mac interface really good, and handles MIME pretty consistently but still can't handle remote mailboxes other than your INBOX (looks like it is going to be added in the future. 2)Mailstrom ftp://jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu/pub/apple-mac_software/Internet/EMail/Mailstrom/ Crappy interface and doesn't do MIME yet (I think version 2.0 will) but handles remote mailboxes other than your INBOX fairly well. All in all, I recommend MailDrop. Keep in mind that neither of these programs handles usenet news. for that try NewsWatcher: ftp://ftp.acns.nwu.edu/pub/newswatcher/ Good Luck! ___________________________________________________________ David Weinrich # Page (410) 995-7695 dweinr1@gl.umbc.edu # Howard County Station 9 UMBC # "squirrels of the world unite!!!" ___________________________________________________________ University of Maryland Baltimore County EHS ___________________________________________________________ "All opinions expressed in the message are mine and do not necessarily reflect those of UMBC, Howard County DFRS, or any other Human with half a brain." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 14 17:19:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12075; Sun, 14 May 95 17:19:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13661; Sun, 14 May 95 17:14:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13655; Sun, 14 May 95 17:14:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sAnje-00038IC; Sun, 14 May 95 17:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access1.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Re: Mailbox format for /usr/spool/mail/???????? Date: 14 May 1995 17:55:47 GMT Message-Id: <3p5g73$a44@news3.digex.net> References: <3n33qa$jf0@news3.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: Cyrille Lefevre (cyril@cli53bq.der.edf.fr) wrote: : In article <3n33qa$jf0@news3.digex.net> tdarcos@access5.digex.net (Paul Robinson) writes: : & On a unix system, I believe the standard mailbox name for each user is as : & specified above, with ? replaced by the user's login name. I'd like to : & know if there is a standard document describing how those mailbox files : & are defined so I can read Unix mailboxes on a PC. : try the pop protocol, I think pine can use this protocol. But I can't use POP on my system. That's an extra cost option : pop may be reached at ftp://ftp.cc.berkeley.edu/pub/pop/... : if you can't use pop, get it, you'll find much of your : answers in its C source code. If it will run on a PC, I'll take a look. -- Ask me about Listmgr - the first PC-Based mailing list manager for E-Mail. Find out about "The Gatekeeper: The Gate Contracts" - Write to address below. Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net "The Greatest Philosopher in the World, maybe the Greatest who ever lived." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 14 17:23:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12149; Sun, 14 May 95 17:23:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23934; Sun, 14 May 95 17:19:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23922; Sun, 14 May 95 17:19:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sAnr7-00038IC; Sun, 14 May 95 17:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access1.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Re: Mailbox format for /usr/spool/mail/???????? Date: 14 May 1995 17:57:15 GMT Message-Id: <3p5g9r$a44@news3.digex.net> References: <3n33qa$jf0@news3.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: Vladimir Solnicky (vs@utia.cas.cz) wrote: : On 19 Apr 1995, Paul Robinson wrote: : > I like the Pine mailer but I must use something akin to UUCP in order to= : I think Pegasus mail can do what you want (if you realy want to read mail : off-line using uucp---on my friend's company use this combination). I said 'akin to uucp'. UUCP isn't available; I have to upload an SMTP block of text. : If you only want to use PC and have a direct connection to the : Internet, IMAP and some version of PC-PINE would be probably much : better. If I had a direct connection, I could use PC-Pine. -- Ask me about Listmgr - the first PC-Based mailing list manager for E-Mail. Find out about "The Gatekeeper: The Gate Contracts" - Write to address below. Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net "The Greatest Philosopher in the World, maybe the Greatest who ever lived." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 14 19:20:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14490; Sun, 14 May 95 19:20:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14839; Sun, 14 May 95 19:14:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14833; Sun, 14 May 95 19:14:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sApaZ-00038FC; Sun, 14 May 95 19:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: niteowl@infi.net (Danny Moses) Subject: 3.90 Highlighting current message Date: 14 May 1995 16:13:41 GMT Message-Id: <3p5a7l$dpm@lucy.infi.net> Status: O X-Status: In Pine 3.90, when I'm in my inbox, the current message is identified by an arrow to the left of it. In previous versions of Pine, the current message was identified by a reverse video highlight bar that covers the entire message. It was much easier to spot which message was selected as current in my opinion. I have checked .pinerc and have not seen a way to select how a current message is highlighted. One choice in the features list mentioned "showing selected in boldface" but this does not refer to highlighting the current message. I'd appreciate any help. I'm wondering if this is a bug of a feature. 8-) -- Danny in Yorktown, VA email address: niteowl@infi.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 14 19:39:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14854; Sun, 14 May 95 19:39:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25477; Sun, 14 May 95 19:34:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25471; Sun, 14 May 95 19:34:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sApwx-00038DC; Sun, 14 May 95 19:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Re: Missing USENET Message Bodies Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 13:08:03 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3p19g3$fnu@mars.cnct.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3p19g3$fnu@mars.cnct.com> Status: O X-Status: On 13 May 1995, tompkins wrote: > Date: 13 MAY 1995 03:36:35 GMT > From: tompkins > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: Missing USENET Message Bodies > Paul O. Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) wrote: > > : I use Pine 3.91 under Unix. The problem has occurred _only_ with > : incoming USENET newsgroup postings, never with email. Sometimes, > : seemingly at random, the entire message body is missing -- only the > : header appears. [...] > There is such a message in this newsgroup right now, but the body *is* > missing - I can't find it with TIN either! Sometimes I have hit a wrong > key and sent such a message myself. > Phil I'm sure it's not a matter of being fumble-fingered at the keyboard. Once I posted a short message to a newsgroup. When I went to view my own message later, the body way missing. However, not long after that, another person replied to my post, quoting the entire message body, so I know that it got through over the net to at least someone. I do not say that the problem is necessarily in Pine. I was just wondering whether any other Pine users had experienced a similar problem in order to be able to start tracking down the source of the problem. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 14 20:38:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16075; Sun, 14 May 95 20:38:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15611; Sun, 14 May 95 20:30:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15605; Sun, 14 May 95 20:29:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sAqof-00038KC; Sun, 14 May 95 20:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dreynold@cris.com (David Reynolds) Subject: .signature file Date: 15 May 1995 00:28:26 GMT Message-Id: <3p677a$fbo@warp.cris.com> Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to use mutliple signature files? If so, how does one specify which file to use? -- ********************************************************** ** David L. Reynolds "Laugh and be strong." ** ** dreynold@cris.com --St. Ignatius Loyola ** ********************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 14 21:17:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16900; Sun, 14 May 95 21:17:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26658; Sun, 14 May 95 21:11:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26652; Sun, 14 May 95 21:11:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sArOx-00038OC; Sun, 14 May 95 21:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Carl Reimann Subject: pine closes folders slowly Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 21:07:06 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Can anyone suggest some explanations about why it takes Pine much longer to close folders than to open them? The folders in question are say 1/2 MB in length. Pine here runs on a fast server with less than 1.0 load at this time. Version 3.91. Is it simply that the file is 1/2 MB in length? That doesn't make sense to me, because I just used emacs, as a test, to edit the same folder. It took less than one second to load the file, and less than one second to save it when I made a change to it. This happens with all folders, not just the one I tested (with an innocuous change). Carl From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 14 22:47:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18801; Sun, 14 May 95 22:47:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17004; Sun, 14 May 95 22:44:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16998; Sun, 14 May 95 22:44:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sAsok-00038SC; Sun, 14 May 95 22:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: pop and imap passwording Date: 14 May 1995 19:47:54 GMT Message-Id: <3p5mpa$15ih@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Chris Avery wrote: >The server I am on has moved there mail to a separate server. The server >is using pop and imap to read mail. My problem is the password is asked >everytime I use pine. any way to change this? Try creating a file ".rhosts" in your home directory containing: xanadu.io.com Assuming that xanadu.io.com is where you read your mail. If it doesn't work, then you'll need to get up with your system administrator and ask that "host equivalence" be made between your login machine and the IMAP server. If your sysadmin refuses (there are valid reasons to refuse), then you'll just have to get used to typing your password. Incidentally, IMHO host equivalence is actually a Good Thing if you are using protocols that send cleartext passwords over the network (which it sounds like you are doing). It seems to me that allowing users unauthenticated access when they have presumably already been otherwise authenticated is better than sending passwords over the net every time you want to read mail! -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 14 22:48:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18832; Sun, 14 May 95 22:48:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27802; Sun, 14 May 95 22:45:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27796; Sun, 14 May 95 22:45:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sAsts-00038jC; Sun, 14 May 95 22:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access1.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Re: How to get Receipt? Date: 14 May 1995 17:44:29 GMT Message-Id: <3p5fht$a44@news3.digex.net> References: <199504080757.AAA00800@usr3.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: R. Stewart Ellis (ellis@nova.gmi.edu) wrote: : Mike Jelineo writes: : >Hi All-- : > I would like to know about having a Return Receipt Generated when the : >person reads the message so that I will know if they had or not. : >Sometimes I don't get replys from people for a really long time and I am : >curious if there was a way to get a Return Receipt once someone reads the : >message. : It is really none of your business when and whether they read your : messages. Why? If you don't like it, then don't have your system do that. Do you refuse mail with a delivery notification (signature card) on it? : You only have the right (perhaps) to know that the package was : successfully delivered. Why do you feel that someone may not do this? : This demand, which is frequently made, is odious. Please explain your reasoning. -- Ask me about Listmgr - the first PC-Based mailing list manager for E-Mail. Find out about "The Gatekeeper: The Gate Contracts" - Write to address below. Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net "The Greatest Philosopher in the World, maybe the Greatest who ever lived." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 14 22:57:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19001; Sun, 14 May 95 22:57:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17069; Sun, 14 May 95 22:50:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17063; Sun, 14 May 95 22:50:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sAt1L-00038RC; Sun, 14 May 95 22:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sfg@nexus.interealm.com (Doug Johnson) Subject: Re: Mail forwarding in pine. Date: 14 May 1995 02:53:59 GMT Message-Id: <3p3rc7$124@nexus.interealm.com> References: Status: O X-Status: ESPINOZA JAIME C (e0f8et4k@tuzo.erin) wrote: : Hi folks. : Quick question.. I just want to know the precise format : to use in the .forward file for forwarding messages to another : location. I know it is simply one line, but like most things.. : I forgot (duh!). : I appreciate it someone could just respond either : here or through email with the appropriate line I need. : Thanks.. : Jaime E. : : -- : . | . "As I lay forgotten and alone, without .8~ . , ~8. : __\|/__ o a tear I draw my parting groan." o Y$@@$"~qp~"$@@$P : \ + / !Y~` e0f8et4k@credit.erin.utoronto.ca '~Y! d*8LJ8*b : rev13.18 / )..o Jaime 'Bill Z. Bub' Espinoza o..( \ !"'! user@somewhere.com No spaces or lines. It needs to be in the upper left of the .forward, first line, first column. -- WHICH WAY DID THEY GO? WHAT WERE THEY DOING? HOW MANY OF THEM WERE THERE? I NEED TO FIND THEM, I'M THEIR LEADER! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 15 00:40:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21194; Mon, 15 May 95 00:40:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18104; Mon, 15 May 95 00:35:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18098; Mon, 15 May 95 00:35:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sAudw-00038QC; Mon, 15 May 95 00:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fxars@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu Subject: Sending mail locally Date: 14 May 1995 04:33:59 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: When sending a message to someone locally, with To: pine will expand that to To: unlike most mailers user agents. I would like to turn that feature off (actually it's a bug, because it bugs me). Anyone know how? === Al From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 15 00:44:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21261; Mon, 15 May 95 00:44:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29194; Mon, 15 May 95 00:35:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29188; Mon, 15 May 95 00:35:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sAuch-00038LC; Mon, 15 May 95 00:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: workman@news.interport.net (Steve Andrews) Subject: Wyse 50 cursor keys Date: 10 May 1995 15:53:32 -0400 Message-Id: <3or5js$1e6@interport.net> Status: O X-Status: I've looked through the comp.mail.pine archives and this seems to be a common, unsolved problem. The cursor keys on our old Wyse 50s send out control key sequences that have other functions in Pine. These terminals have no software commands that allow me to remap the cursor keys or to change emulation. Although it's possible to use the vi cursor movement commands, I'd rather not have to force our users to do this. Has anyone found a solution to this problem? If there is a solution involving modified pine code, is this available anywhere? Will this problem be addressed in any future version of pine? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 15 01:17:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22231; Mon, 15 May 95 01:17:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29542; Mon, 15 May 95 01:01:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29536; Mon, 15 May 95 01:01:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sAuud-00038LC; Mon, 15 May 95 00:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kurt Schaudt Subject: Other terminal types than VT100 for pine? Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 18:46:24 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, we have Pine 3.91 installed on our Linux server, it works very well. We have only one problem: If pine is started via modem using BitComm Pine reports an unknown terminal type "DEC VT100" and cannot be started. At least our versions of BitCom don't allow to change the string "DEC VT100" to "VT100". Do anyone have an idea how to convince Pine that "DEC VT100" is the same as "VT100"? Kurt Schaudt Uni-Tuebingen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 15 04:03:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25986; Mon, 15 May 95 04:03:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20157; Mon, 15 May 95 03:45:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20151; Mon, 15 May 95 03:45:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sAxat-00038jC; Mon, 15 May 95 03:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) Subject: folder-collections Date: 15 May 1995 10:06:09 GMT Message-Id: <3p792i$k0o@news.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: I get the impression from the online help that I can have more than one "folder-collections" and directory(s) for different kinds of collections. If so, where in the configuration file do I indicate these additional directory paths? Also, while I'm here, what is the meaning of the Value settings I see so frequently in the config file? E.g., Personal Name, Folder-Collections, etc., and the configuration line looks something like: What is meant by "Value" -- bob brody@primenet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 15 04:27:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26926; Mon, 15 May 95 04:27:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20673; Mon, 15 May 95 04:17:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pogo.den.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20667; Mon, 15 May 95 04:17:16 -0700 Received: by pogo.den.mmc.com (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11062; Mon, 15 May 95 05:16:35 -0600 Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 05:16:34 -0600 (MDT) From: Michael S Hartman To: "ben.rose" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: News-Reader In-Reply-To: <3ot7vc$ckl@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 11 May 1995, ben.rose wrote: > > I am currently trying to setup my version of Unix Pine 3.89 so I cam use > it as a newsreader instead of tin. I have edited the appropriate section > in my .pinerc file to make it possible to read the said newsgroups but I > can't figure out a way of getting them to post. I notice the incoming > posts have a 'Newsgroups:' header. I do not have one of these. Do I need > one? If so how do I add one if it's possible. I would be most grateful for > help on this as it annoys me I have to run tin and pine at the moment. > > Ben Rose > Ben, try typing ctrl r. You will get a rich hdr screen with the newsgroup spot in the header. Mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 15 06:42:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00243; Mon, 15 May 95 06:42:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03885; Mon, 15 May 95 06:27:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03879; Mon, 15 May 95 06:27:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sB04e-00038WC; Mon, 15 May 95 06:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access1.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Re: How to Cancel USENET posts Date: 14 May 1995 17:50:03 GMT Message-Id: <3p5fsb$a44@news3.digex.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Harris Internet Service Company (martyn@indirect.com) wrote: : What is the proper procedure for cancelling a newsgroup post? Get the original post number (the "references") and be sure to have a "Control:" header in the list of optional headers, or use the command in pine to allow you to add it. Use the following headers: Control: cancel Subject: cmsg cancel And have a non-empty text; the signature should be sufficient -- Ask me about Listmgr - the first PC-Based mailing list manager for E-Mail. Find out about "The Gatekeeper: The Gate Contracts" - Write to address below. Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net "The Greatest Philosopher in the World, maybe the Greatest who ever lived." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 15 07:33:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01519; Mon, 15 May 95 07:33:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04789; Mon, 15 May 95 07:24:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04783; Mon, 15 May 95 07:24:51 -0700 Received: from orac.sunderland.ac.uk by sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk with JANET SMTP id ; Mon, 15 May 1995 15:24:11 +0100 Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 15:23:15 +0100 (BST) From: Ben Subject: Re: News-Reader To: Michael S Hartman Cc: "ben.rose" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 251 Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 15 May 1995, Michael S Hartman wrote: > > > Ben, try typing ctrl r. You will get a rich hdr screen with the newsgroup > spot in the header. > > Mike > I tried that already but it appears that it isn't present in my version of pine. Ben From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 15 07:35:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01605; Mon, 15 May 95 07:35:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22598; Mon, 15 May 95 07:12:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22592; Mon, 15 May 95 07:12:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sB0qM-00038WC; Mon, 15 May 95 07:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: foghorn1@foghorn1.nbnet.nb.ca (Craig Stewart) Subject: Does PINE mess up the time stamp? Date: 15 May 1995 03:07:22 GMT Message-Id: <3p6gha$i44@darwin.nbnet.nb.ca> Status: O X-Status: Does PINE mess up the time stamp on outgoing messages? It usualy looks like this: Mon, 15 May 1995 00:03:12 -23900 ^^^^^^^ I didn't know that a clock went 'round this many times! Elm doesn't seem to cause this problem, but it doesn't have the features that pine does. The version is 3.89 on Linux. Thanks. Please post mail to the address listed below, not the one listed in the header of this message! -- *********************************************************************** For some reason a glaze passes over people's faces when you say "Canada". Maybe we should invade South Dakota or something. -- Sandra Gotlieb, wife of the Canadian ambassador to the United States of America *********************************************************************** Craig Stewart foghorn1@mailserv.nbnet.nb.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 15 07:40:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01840; Mon, 15 May 95 07:40:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22816; Mon, 15 May 95 07:27:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22802; Mon, 15 May 95 07:27:46 -0700 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA12212; Mon, 15 May 1995 07:27:42 -0700 Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 07:27:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: Re: Other terminal types than VT100 for pine? To: Kurt Schaudt Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 14 May 1995, Kurt Schaudt wrote: > If pine is started via modem using BitComm Pine reports an unknown > terminal type "DEC VT100" and cannot be started. > At least our versions of BitCom don't allow to change the string "DEC > VT100" to "VT100". > > Do anyone have an idea how to convince Pine that "DEC VT100" is the same > as "VT100"? If using sh: if [ "$TERM" = "DEC VT100" ] then TERM=VT100 export TERM fi in the /etc/profile B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 15 08:11:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02687; Mon, 15 May 95 08:11:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05473; Mon, 15 May 95 08:02:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05467; Mon, 15 May 95 08:02:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sB1b4-00038QC; Mon, 15 May 95 07:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cloos@JHCloos.COM (James H. Cloos Jr.) Subject: Re: HELP: Setting distribution for news posted with pine? Date: 08 May 1995 15:13:38 GMT Message-Id: References: <3jie42$t6s@pentagon.io.com> In-Reply-To: dmg@pentagon.io.com's message of 7 Mar 1995 14:02:10 -0600 Status: O X-Status: >>>>> "David" == David writes: David> How does Pine determine the distribution of messages posted to David> usenet? This isn't exaclty an _IO_ question. I am posting David> from pine at another site, but the posts only show up in David> newsgroups at that site, not here or anywhere else. I tried David> adding "Distribution:" as a customized header, but pine is David> stripping it from the outgoing messages. It doesn't strip David> X-Headers, however. Most sites these days completely ignore the distribution header. Thus, it is not surprising that pine(1) might strip it. When you read the articels you are posting there, look at all the headers -- there should be a way to do so; my NUA uses `t' to toggle reduced vs. fukk headers -- and see if there is a blank distribution headers, no distribution header, or or one specifying local. Only in the latter case should the article be prevented from propagating -- assuming a global newsgroup of course. -JimC -- James H. Cloos, Jr. Snail: POBox 18122 Austin, TX 78760-8122 cloos@io.com URL: http://www.jhcloos.com/~cloos/ -- James H. Cloos, Jr. Snail: POBox 18122 Austin, TX 78760-8122 cloos@io.com URL: http://www.jhcloos.com/~cloos/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 15 08:51:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05049; Mon, 15 May 95 08:51:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24320; Mon, 15 May 95 08:45:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24310; Mon, 15 May 95 08:45:12 -0700 Received: from trex (trex.kwantlen.bc.ca) by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA21377; Mon, 15 May 1995 08:45:03 -0700 Received: by trex (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA23148; Mon, 15 May 1995 08:45:02 +0800 Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 08:45:01 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dumaresq X-Sender: david@trex To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Losing prompt message in Windows Telnet Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1139 Status: O X-Status: My mother is using a windows/winsock telnet session with Pine over SLIP, when she replies to mail or composes a message, while there is postponed mail, she loses the prompt messages. These are the prompts that ask if she wants to include the original message, in the first case, and if she wants to continue the postponed message, in the second. All that she sees is a YES and [NO] prompt, the cursor is flashing at about column 60 on the message line which is the same colour as the compose area. Very confusing for someone just learning Pine. I've tried setting Assume slow link (she's connecting with a 9600 baud modem) but this made no difference. Any ideas? Thanks for your help, David. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 15 09:23:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07187; Mon, 15 May 95 09:23:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07374; Mon, 15 May 95 09:14:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07368; Mon, 15 May 95 09:14:02 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24413; Mon, 15 May 95 09:13:50 -0700 Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 09:13:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: David Dumaresq Cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Losing prompt message in Windows Telnet In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: David, We've heard one report of this that was fixed by switching to a different Windows telnet program, but I don't know the specific cause of the problem. -teg On Mon, 15 May 1995, David Dumaresq wrote: > My mother is using a windows/winsock telnet session with Pine over SLIP, > when she replies to mail or composes a message, while there is postponed > mail, she loses the prompt messages. > > These are the prompts that ask if she wants to include the original > message, in the first case, and if she wants to continue the postponed > message, in the second. All that she sees is a YES and [NO] prompt, the > cursor is flashing at about column 60 on the message line which is the > same colour as the compose area. > > Very confusing for someone just learning Pine. > > I've tried setting Assume slow link (she's connecting with a 9600 baud > modem) but this made no difference. > > Any ideas? > > > Thanks for your help, > David. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca > Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 > Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 > > "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 15 09:27:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07300; Mon, 15 May 95 09:27:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07524; Mon, 15 May 95 09:20:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pogo.den.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07518; Mon, 15 May 95 09:20:50 -0700 Received: by pogo.den.mmc.com (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19223; Mon, 15 May 95 10:20:21 -0600 Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 10:20:21 -0600 (MDT) From: Michael S Hartman To: Ben Cc: "ben.rose" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: News-Reader In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Ben i think you need pine 3.9 or above. Mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 15 09:58:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08322; Mon, 15 May 95 09:58:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25753; Mon, 15 May 95 09:47:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25746; Mon, 15 May 95 09:47:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sB3Ck-00038WC; Mon, 15 May 95 09:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: amehdiza@violin.aix.calpoly.edu (Ali Mehdizadeh) Subject: Re: Spelling Date: 15 May 1995 16:04:51 GMT Message-Id: <3p7u33$4gi@isnews.csc.calpoly.edu> References: <3oofk1$imi@isnews.calpoly.edu> Status: O X-Status: Michael Agelasto (h9397584@hkusua) wrote: : This question is answered about once a month and also in FAQ but I have : been unable to figure out how to do it. Maybe you will have better luck. [sig snipped] Allright, so where is the FAQ? Thanks, amehdiza@violin.aix.calpoly.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 15 10:03:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08488; Mon, 15 May 95 10:03:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08252; Mon, 15 May 95 09:57:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08242; Mon, 15 May 95 09:57:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sB3PT-00038DC; Mon, 15 May 95 09:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Re: News-Reader Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 11:14:32 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 15 May 1995, Ben wrote: > Date: 15 MAY 1995 07:32:04 -0700 > From: Ben > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: News-Reader > > On Mon, 15 May 1995, Michael S Hartman wrote: > > > > > Ben, try typing ctrl r. You will get a rich hdr screen with the newsgroup > > spot in the header. > > > > Mike > > > I tried that already but it appears that it isn't present in my version > of pine. > > Ben Don't bet the farm on my recollections, but I think some of the goodies for at least _posting_ to newsgroups came into Pine in version 3.90 or 3.91. V. 3.89 may not have had them. In any case, when you try the Ctrl-R as was suggested, make sure the cursor is in the header area first. (In 3.91, at least, Ctrl-R does different things in the header and the body.) Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 15 10:33:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09591; Mon, 15 May 95 10:33:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26654; Mon, 15 May 95 10:22:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26648; Mon, 15 May 95 10:22:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sB3kB-00038DC; Mon, 15 May 95 10:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: filtering, once and for all Date: 12 May 1995 03:01:06 GMT Message-Id: <3ouj1i$r7i@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com> <3ost0s$dad@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <3ot84l$l69@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3ou3lq$ibb@news.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: In article <3ou3lq$ibb@news.primenet.com>, Bob Brody wrote: >I'm afraid I disagree with your attitude. You seem to think everyone >should work the way you do and that anything else is, uhh, organized >procastination. Bull. [....] I think this is one of those cases where the inability to read intonation into USENET posts is causing flamage where none should exist. I don't think that everyone should work the way I do. Neither do I see no need for filtering programs. After all, I am writing one, and I wouldn't do that if I thought they had no use (even though I won't likely use it much myself). I'm not a fan of offering things to my users that I don't think will help them. I'm simply saying that mail filtering is not a panacea to solve all problems, and that for some people, filtering isn't the best option. I'm more fluid in my mailreading than the rigid rules that filtering provides; and if I find I'm not reading a list, week after week, and it's piling up, then I unsubscribe. For some people, however, it increases organization drastically. I recognize that, and because of that, I'm trying to get a filtering agent that will meet their needs. >BTW, the filtering agent I'm using is FILTER and works just fine >through any of the mail programs since as you say it's not the mail >agent, but the filter agent; the mail agent then offers up the mail. >That's of course best since it allows us Pine users to use Pine, Elm >users to use Elm, Mail users to use Mail, and everybody's happy. Filter unfortunately suffers from some problems of its own, and even the filter developers suggest that serious mail-filter users should use procmail instead. But if it does what you want, and you're not experiencing mail locking problems, then you should use it. I should note here that I will soon be removing Elm, Mail, etc. from my machines. Not because I don't think they should use the other interfaces (to the contrary, I have several news readers, web browsers, editors, etc., even though that increases our work) but because Pine is the only freely-distributable interface using IMAP, and we're going to remove local filesystem access to mail very soon (we already have for all our Pine users). Is anyone working on backends to Elm, etc., that use IMAP like Pine does? -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 15 10:48:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10426; Mon, 15 May 95 10:48:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09290; Mon, 15 May 95 10:35:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09282; Mon, 15 May 95 10:35:05 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11842; Mon, 15 May 95 10:34:56 -0700 Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 10:34:54 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Russell Ruby Cc: Steve Hubert , pine@cac.washington.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: how to get patch for init.c standard-printer bug In-Reply-To: <9505112040.AA22231@MATH.ORST.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-633453779-800559294=:5393" Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-633453779-800559294=:5393 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have attached the patch to this message. Apply it to the pine/init.c file in the Pine 3.91 sources and rebuild... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 11 May 1995, Russell Ruby wrote: > Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 13:40:36 PDT > From: Russell Ruby > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: how to get patch for init.c standard-printer bug > > > I'm in the process of testing 3.91 before replacing 3.87 and discovered > that the "standard-printer" setting in "pine.conf" was ignored. > I found the following reference in the pine-info web and ftp archives, but > no such patch could be found after considerable further digging in the > archives... > So, could someone please send me this patch or let me know where such bug > reports and patches exist ? > > thanks, russell ruby russ@math.orst.edu > > > > o Subject: Re: Trouble setting standard-printer > o From: Shah > o Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 11:50:33 -0700 (MST) > o Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > o Priority: HIGH > > > On Tue, 14 Feb 1995 08:46:09 -0800 (PST) David L Miller wrote: > > > >Shah, > > > >That is a well known bug. I have attached the patch to pine/init.c. > >Apply the changes and rebuild to make the variables work... > > > >Thanks for the report! > > Thanks, David. You're a gentleman and a scholar! And thanks to y'all for Pine. It's doing us yeoman's service! > > Best regards, > > S. > > > > > [Previous Message] [Next Message] > > > --0-633453779-800559294=:5393 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="init.c.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: KioqIHBpbmUzLjkxL3NyYy9waW5lL2luaXQuYwlNb24gT2N0IDEwIDE0OjM0 OjI5IDE5OTQNCi0tLSBwaW5lMy45Mi9zcmMvcGluZS9pbml0LmMJV2VkIE9j dCAxMiAxMjozNTo0MSAxOTk0DQoqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioNCioqKiAyMDg5 LDIxMDAgKioqKg0KICAgICAgICAgIH0NCg0KICAgICAgICAgIC8qLS0tIFZh ciBpcyBub3QgdXNlciBjb250cm9sbGVkLCBsZWF2ZSBpdCBhbG9uZSBmb3Ig YmFjayBjb21wYXQgLS0tKi8NCiEgICAgICAgICBpZighdi0+aXNfdXNlcil7 DQohICAgICAgICAgICAgIGlmKHdoaWNoX3ZhcnMgPT0gUGFyc2VMb2NhbCl7 DQogICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICBwbGluZS0+aXNfdmFyID0gMDsNCiAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgIHBsaW5lLT5saW5lID0gY3B5c3RyKGxpbmUpOw0KICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgcGxpbmUrKzsNCi0gICAgICAgICAgICAgfQ0KICAg ICAgICAgICAgICBjb250aW51ZTsNCiAgICAgICAgICB9DQoNCi0tLSAyMDg5 LDIwOTggLS0tLQ0KICAgICAgICAgIH0NCg0KICAgICAgICAgIC8qLS0tIFZh ciBpcyBub3QgdXNlciBjb250cm9sbGVkLCBsZWF2ZSBpdCBhbG9uZSBmb3Ig YmFjayBjb21wYXQgLS0tKi8NCiEgICAgICAgICBpZighdi0+aXNfdXNlciAm JiB3aGljaF92YXJzID09IFBhcnNlTG9jYWwpew0KICAJICAgIHBsaW5lLT5p c192YXIgPSAwOw0KICAJICAgIHBsaW5lLT5saW5lID0gY3B5c3RyKGxpbmUp Ow0KICAJICAgIHBsaW5lKys7DQogIAkgICAgY29udGludWU7DQogICAgICAg ICAgfQ0KDQo= --0-633453779-800559294=:5393-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 15 16:09:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25422; Mon, 15 May 95 16:09:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03900; Mon, 15 May 95 16:01:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from eliza.netaxis.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03894; Mon, 15 May 95 16:01:49 -0700 Received: by netaxis.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA01038; Mon, 15 May 1995 19:05:20 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 19:05:20 -0400 From: wharris@netaxis.com (Walter Harris) Message-Id: <9505152305.AA01038@netaxis.com> To: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PINE for Xenix? Content-Length: 516 Status: O X-Status: Has anyone ported Pine to SCO XENIX 386 (2.3.3)? Problem: We have no TCP/IP support. SCO quoted $1,000 for adding it and our e-mail system doesn't have that kind of budget. (If it did, we'd upgrade to full Unix anyway.) I understand from the FAQ that Pine will not compile without TCP/IP support. Does that still apply even if we do not use IMAP? Our link to the outside world will be a UUCP link. Only one local system is involved. Thanks for any advice! -- Walter Harris wharris@netaxis.com Norwalk, CT From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 15 17:30:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29173; Mon, 15 May 95 17:30:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18722; Mon, 15 May 95 17:21:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18716; Mon, 15 May 95 17:21:44 -0700 Received: from trex (trex.kwantlen.bc.ca) by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA27953; Mon, 15 May 1995 17:21:33 -0700 Received: by trex (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA02897; Mon, 15 May 1995 17:21:33 +0800 Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 17:21:32 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dumaresq X-Sender: david@trex To: Walter Harris Cc: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE for Xenix? In-Reply-To: <9505152305.AA01038@netaxis.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1261 Status: O X-Status: > Has anyone ported Pine to SCO XENIX 386 (2.3.3)? > I know that the chamber of commerce in powell-river is running pine under SCO Xenix, I'm not sure what flavours though. You might want to send mail to: al@caspian.coc.powell-river.bc.ca see what they're doing. Cheers, David. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- hot-games.comhot-games.com hot-games.com> Problem: We have no TCP/IP support. SCO quoted $1,000 for adding it > and our e-mail system doesn't have that kind of budget. (If it did, > we'd upgrade to full Unix anyway.) > > I understand from the FAQ that Pine will not compile without TCP/IP > support. Does that still apply even if we do not use IMAP? Our link > to the outside world will be a UUCP link. Only one local system is > involved. > > Thanks for any advice! > > -- Walter Harris > wharris@netaxis.com > Norwalk, CT > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 15 21:35:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04457; Mon, 15 May 95 21:35:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08666; Mon, 15 May 95 21:26:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from trianon.worldtel.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08660; Mon, 15 May 95 21:26:17 -0700 From: amedamne@trianon.worldtel.com Received: by trianon.worldtel.com (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA14924; Tue, 16 May 1995 00:38:26 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 00:38:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: USENET Newsgroup To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: aly Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi I wish to communicate with one of the USENET Newsgroups. I have never used this system before. Please instruct me as to how to communicate. Thanks Aly From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 16 21:28:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20904; Tue, 16 May 95 21:28:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24724; Tue, 16 May 95 21:25:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24718; Tue, 16 May 95 21:25:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBXrb-00038tC; Tue, 16 May 95 18:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aa200@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Brian Anspach) Subject: Re: .signature file Date: 17 May 1995 00:37:03 GMT Message-Id: <3pbgff$f2f@tribune.usask.ca> References: <3p677a$fbo@warp.cris.com> Status: O X-Status: David Reynolds (Dreynold@cris.com) wrote: : Is it possible to use mutliple signature files? If so, how does one : specify which file to use? : -- : ********************************************************** : ** David L. Reynolds "Laugh and be strong." ** : ** dreynold@cris.com --St. Ignatius Loyola ** : ********************************************************** Yes it is possible, but you will have to erase your .signature file, if you wish. You create as many different signatures as you want, and you have to read them in by pressing CTRL-R, and then specifying the filename. For example, s1, would be your first signature, and s2, would be your second signature. -- Brian Anspach From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 16 21:28:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20928; Tue, 16 May 95 21:28:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00945; Tue, 16 May 95 21:25:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00939; Tue, 16 May 95 21:25:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBXkQ-00038sC; Tue, 16 May 95 18:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rene Grothmann Subject: Suggestions for PINE Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 10:47:40 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: 1) Could you make ';'+'a'+'a'+'d'+'TAB' a single keystroke (catch up and advance to next newsgroup) 2) Different sorting options for saving and viewing. 3) Is it possible to sort the news messages faster? Rene. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 16 21:28:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20946; Tue, 16 May 95 21:28:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00977; Tue, 16 May 95 21:25:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00971; Tue, 16 May 95 21:25:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBZTJ-00038zC; Tue, 16 May 95 20:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: franklin@millenium.texas.net (Frank Schmidt) Subject: Re: Command line mailer Date: 16 May 1995 20:37:24 GMT Message-Id: <3pb2e4$e1d@empire.texas.net> References: <3nhout$o0g@gate.sinica.edu.tw> Status: O X-Status: Glenn E. Lanier (laniege@eng.auburn.edu) wrote: : On 26 Apr 1995 07:14:38 -0700, in comp.mail.pine, Don Roberts : (while parading as roberts@mail.utep.edu) scribbled >>--> : : Can PC-Pine be used as a command line mailer? I need the ability to mail : : a file off to a remote user from inside a DOS batch script. Can Pine do : : this? If not, does anyone have any ideas on another program that can : : help me out? : How about : mail username -s "subject" < filename I have the same question for Unix. Your suggestion doesn't work for me because I need to set the reply-to field and I don't think this can be done with regular mail/mailx. So can I use pine as a command line mailer? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 16 21:28:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20961; Tue, 16 May 95 21:28:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24716; Tue, 16 May 95 21:25:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24710; Tue, 16 May 95 21:25:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBWkH-00038pC; Tue, 16 May 95 17:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pjh@mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg) Subject: PC Pine/Novell Message-Id: Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 17:12:12 GMT Status: O X-Status: In trying to read INBOX, pc-pine/novell reports: [Can't connect to tecoma.mccc.edu, 143: refused(61)] What does this mean?? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 16 21:28:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21005; Tue, 16 May 95 21:28:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00902; Tue, 16 May 95 21:22:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00896; Tue, 16 May 95 21:22:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBaUn-000394C; Tue, 16 May 95 21:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: martin@dorsai.dorsai.org (martin schildkret) Subject: Re: When is offline reading planned? Message-Id: References: <3p87q3$n0c@news3.digex.net> Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 19:54:58 GMT Status: O X-Status: Paul Robinson (tdarcos@access5.digex.net) wrote: : David Dumaresq (david@Kwantlen.BC.CA) wrote: : : Any word on when offline reading will be available for Pine? : What I'd like to see is a version of the UNIX release ported down to the : PC so that those who just simply want to use Pine the same way as a Unix : system does (it reads a mailbox, it writes to a file and then runs a : program to deliver that file to the mail system), that would be much more : useful than any of the current PC releases that mandate use of a network : card and cannot be used otherwise. I totally echo that request. It would be an absolutely phenomenal combination..... ----------------------------------------------------------- | <<< Martin@Dorsai.Org | < Martin Schildkret > >>> | ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 16 21:28:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21028; Tue, 16 May 95 21:28:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24696; Tue, 16 May 95 21:24:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24690; Tue, 16 May 95 21:24:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBV45-00038YC; Tue, 16 May 95 15:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tompkins@earth.cnct.com (tompkins) Subject: Re: Missing USENET Message Bodies Date: 13 May 1995 03:36:35 GMT Message-Id: <3p19g3$fnu@mars.cnct.com> References: Status: O X-Status: Paul O. Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) wrote: : I use Pine 3.91 under Unix. The problem has occurred _only_ with : incoming USENET newsgroup postings, never with email. Sometimes, : seemingly at random, the entire message body is missing -- only the : header appears. It can be a bit annoying, particularly when the subject : line leads me to think that I would be especially interested in the : message. Has anyone else run into this? : Paul There is such a message in this newsgroup right now, but the body *is* missing - I can't find it with TIN either! Sometimes I have hit a wrong key and sent such a message myself. Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 16 21:29:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21075; Tue, 16 May 95 21:29:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24742; Tue, 16 May 95 21:25:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24736; Tue, 16 May 95 21:25:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBZe6-000391C; Tue, 16 May 95 20:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: e0f8et4k@tuzo.erin (ESPINOZA JAIME C) Subject: Re: Mail forwarding in pine. Message-Id: References: <3p3rc7$124@nexus.interealm.com> Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 23:31:42 GMT Status: O X-Status: Oh.. that simple. Funny.. I thought there were other characters involved. In any case, thanks fellows for the help! Jaime -- . | . "Death of Mother Earth; Never a Rebirth. .8~ . , ~8. __\|/__ o Evolution's End; Never will it mend." o Y$@@$"~qp~"$@@$P \ + / !Y~` e0f8et4k@credit.erin.utoronto.ca '~Y! d*8LJ8*b rev13.18 / )..o Jaime 'Bill Z. Bub' Espinoza o..( \ !"'! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 16 21:30:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21118; Tue, 16 May 95 21:30:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00937; Tue, 16 May 95 21:25:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00931; Tue, 16 May 95 21:25:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBW2t-00038kC; Tue, 16 May 95 16:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) Subject: folder-collections Date: 15 May 1995 10:06:09 GMT Message-Id: <3p792i$k0o@news.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: I get the impression from the online help that I can have more than one "folder-collections" and directory(s) for different kinds of collections. If so, where in the configuration file do I indicate these additional directory paths? Also, while I'm here, what is the meaning of the Value settings I see so frequently in the config file? E.g., Personal Name, Folder-Collections, etc., and the configuration line looks something like: What is meant by "Value" -- bob brody@primenet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 16 21:31:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21158; Tue, 16 May 95 21:31:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00957; Tue, 16 May 95 21:25:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00947; Tue, 16 May 95 21:25:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBY9z-00038uC; Tue, 16 May 95 18:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: david Subject: Re: Pine 3.92? Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 14:17:57 +1000 Message-Id: References: <3n4gjs$8mf@news.tamu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3n4gjs$8mf@news.tamu.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 20 Apr 1995, Scion wrote: > Anybody know when 3.92 is coming out? I'm looking forward to the > 'built in' pgp interface. Any chance of support for remote ~/.newsrc files? dave From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 16 21:31:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21181; Tue, 16 May 95 21:31:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24768; Tue, 16 May 95 21:27:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24762; Tue, 16 May 95 21:27:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBafF-00038EC; Tue, 16 May 95 21:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Does PINE mess up the time stamp? Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 17:54:08 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3p6gha$i44@darwin.nbnet.nb.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3p6gha$i44@darwin.nbnet.nb.ca> Status: O X-Status: This is a known bug in Pine 3.89 on Linux. If you upgrade to 3.91, I think you'll find that the bug is gone. On 15 May 1995, Craig Stewart wrote: > Does PINE mess up the time stamp on outgoing messages? It usualy > looks like this: > > Mon, 15 May 1995 00:03:12 -23900 > ^^^^^^^ > I didn't know that a clock went 'round this many times! > > Elm doesn't seem to cause this problem, but it doesn't have the features > that pine does. The version is 3.89 on Linux. Thanks. > > Please post mail to the address listed below, not the one listed in the > header of this message! > > > -- > *********************************************************************** > > For some reason a glaze passes over people's faces when you say > "Canada". Maybe we should invade South Dakota or something. > -- Sandra Gotlieb, wife of the Canadian ambassador to > the United States of America > > *********************************************************************** > > Craig Stewart > foghorn1@mailserv.nbnet.nb.ca > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 16 21:47:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21537; Tue, 16 May 95 21:47:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01170; Tue, 16 May 95 21:42:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01164; Tue, 16 May 95 21:42:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBart-00038DC; Tue, 16 May 95 21:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine 3.92? Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 17:56:43 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3n4gjs$8mf@news.tamu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 13 May 1995, david wrote: > On 20 Apr 1995, Scion wrote: > > Anybody know when 3.92 is coming out? I'm looking forward to the > > 'built in' pgp interface. > Any chance of support for remote ~/.newsrc files? If the ~/.newsrc file is on the same machine as the news spool, you can do that now using IMAP. More flexible capability is coming in IMAP4 support, but that will be in a version of Pine after 3.92 (I am alpha-testing IMAP4 code now). -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 16 21:49:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21637; Tue, 16 May 95 21:49:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25013; Tue, 16 May 95 21:42:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25007; Tue, 16 May 95 21:42:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBatQ-00038EC; Tue, 16 May 95 21:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Sending mail locally Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 18:12:06 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Briefly, the answer is "no". Of course, you can modify the source code (which we distribute) and build a private version. The question is why do you want to do this? 20+ years of experience in the Internet indicates that this is a terrible idea. Historically, a capability of omitting the local host name has caused more grief (particularly in terms of mishandled email) than just about any other. About 15 or so years ago, a widespread concensus was reached among email developers that it should be extermined if at all possible, and that any suppression of local host names should be strictly as a display feature. Pine was developed about 10 years after this concensus. Please reconsider. On 14 May 1995 fxars@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu wrote: > When sending a message to someone locally, with > To: > pine will expand that to > To: > unlike most mailers user agents. > > I would like to turn that feature off (actually it's a bug, because it > bugs me). Anyone know how? > === Al -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 16 21:51:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21681; Tue, 16 May 95 21:51:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01227; Tue, 16 May 95 21:47:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01221; Tue, 16 May 95 21:47:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBazl-00038LC; Tue, 16 May 95 21:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kkornega@wtcc-gw.wake.tec.nc.us (Karen Kornegay) Subject: posts from pine Date: 16 May 1995 21:24:04 GMT Message-Id: <3pb55k$m49@inxs.ncren.net> Status: O X-Status: When I try to post (via the compose command) to a newsgroup from Pine, the program freezes and the only command the computer accepts is alt-x (disconnect from the net). I can reply to a newsgroup posting while in Pine if I don't move the cursor into the header. If I do, again, it freezes. It would be a real convenience to be able to post from Pine. (To post now, I exit Pine and enter Tin.) Any suggestions? I'm not a UNIX wizard, so I need easy instructions -- thanks! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 16 22:48:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23170; Tue, 16 May 95 22:48:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25845; Tue, 16 May 95 22:42:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25839; Tue, 16 May 95 22:42:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBboa-00038DC; Tue, 16 May 95 22:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: xarcor@aol.com (Xarco R) Subject: commas in addresses Date: 15 May 1995 21:53:08 -0400 Message-Id: <3p90i4$1pq@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Status: O X-Status: when trying to send mail in pine I keep getting the message, To Field; Must use comma to separate addresses. Our to line and subject line appear to run together. Please E-Mail me, xarcor@aol.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 16 23:45:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24464; Tue, 16 May 95 23:45:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02459; Tue, 16 May 95 23:37:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02453; Tue, 16 May 95 23:37:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBchb-00038EC; Tue, 16 May 95 23:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: xarcor@aol.com (Xarco R) Subject: commas in addresses Date: 15 May 1995 22:31:27 -0400 Message-Id: <3p92pv$2fr@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Status: O X-Status: When trying to send E-Mail in Pine, I keep getting the following message. To Field; Must use comma to separate addresses;. The To, Subject and Message sections all seem to run together. Can someone help with this problem? Am I forgetting to do something? Please E-mail me, xarcor@aol.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 00:12:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25284; Wed, 17 May 95 00:12:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26896; Wed, 17 May 95 00:08:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26890; Wed, 17 May 95 00:08:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBd99-00038DC; Wed, 17 May 95 00:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: e0f8et4k@tuzo.erin (ESPINOZA JAIME C) Subject: Mail forwarding in pine. Message-Id: Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 16:02:31 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi folks. Quick question.. I just want to know the precise format to use in the .forward file for forwarding messages to another location. I know it is simply one line, but like most things.. I forgot (duh!). I appreciate it someone could just respond either here or through email with the appropriate line I need. Thanks.. Jaime E. -- . | . "As I lay forgotten and alone, without .8~ . , ~8. __\|/__ o a tear I draw my parting groan." o Y$@@$"~qp~"$@@$P \ + / !Y~` e0f8et4k@credit.erin.utoronto.ca '~Y! d*8LJ8*b rev13.18 / )..o Jaime 'Bill Z. Bub' Espinoza o..( \ !"'! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 01:50:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28232; Wed, 17 May 95 01:50:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28367; Wed, 17 May 95 01:39:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28361; Wed, 17 May 95 01:39:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBea9-00038FC; Wed, 17 May 95 01:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Pine 3.92? Date: 16 May 1995 05:20:54 GMT Message-Id: <3p9cnm$111@news.ysu.edu> References: <3n4gjs$8mf@news.tamu.edu> More flexible capability is coming in IMAP4 support, but that will be in >a version of Pine after 3.92 (I am alpha-testing IMAP4 code now). If I may ask, how many more upgrades of Pine3.* are planned or anticipated before moving along to IMAP4-Pine4.*? After 3.92 (and any bugfix/maintenance releases), will there be any more feature-laden releases without IMAP4 support, comparable to the new features being provided in 3.92? Or doesn't anyone want to hazard a prediction about this? Thanks... -- Barry Bouwsma, I Have No Life ______________http://199.44.25.9/~olaryb/peo.html______________ In a blindfolded taste test, 4 of 5 newsreaders could not tell the difference between Spam and Velveeta... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 02:01:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28491; Wed, 17 May 95 02:01:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03883; Wed, 17 May 95 01:39:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03877; Wed, 17 May 95 01:39:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBeYx-00038DC; Wed, 17 May 95 01:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fxars@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu Subject: Sending mail locally Date: 14 May 1995 04:33:59 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: When sending a message to someone locally, with To: pine will expand that to To: unlike most mailers user agents. I would like to turn that feature off (actually it's a bug, because it bugs me). Anyone know how? === Al From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 02:04:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28550; Wed, 17 May 95 02:04:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03875; Wed, 17 May 95 01:39:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03869; Wed, 17 May 95 01:39:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBea6-00038EC; Wed, 17 May 95 01:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: frhsu@acc (Fang_RongHsu) Subject: Sending Mail in Chinese Date: 16 May 1995 05:50:50 GMT Message-Id: <3p9efq$59q@peter.pu.edu.tw> Status: O X-Status: Hi, When I send mail to others in Chinese by using PINE, people can not read these mails unless they use pine. I can receive Chinese mail without any problems even sender uses different mailing software. How can I solve this problem ? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 02:27:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29067; Wed, 17 May 95 02:27:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28645; Wed, 17 May 95 02:04:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28639; Wed, 17 May 95 02:04:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBey9-00038EC; Wed, 17 May 95 02:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: holden@atc.boeing.com (Maretta Holden) Subject: Re: filtering, once and for all Message-Id: References: <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com> <3ojidp$1l6b@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3ost0s$dad@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <3ot84l$l69@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3ou3lq$ibb@news.primenet.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 22:35:21 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <3ou3lq$ibb@news.primenet.com>, brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) wrote: > BTW, the filtering agent I'm using is FILTER and works just fine > through any of the mail programs since as you say it's not the mail > agent, but the filter agent; the mail agent then offers up the mail. > That's of course best since it allows us Pine users to use Pine, Elm > users to use Elm, Mail users to use Mail, and everybody's happy. What is FILTER, on which systems does it run and where can it be obtained? -- Maretta T. Holden | (206) 662-0232 Boeing Defense & Space Group | (206) 662-0115 FAX PO Box 3707 MS 4C-63 | holden@mirage.boeing.com Seattle, WA 98124 | holden@atc.boeing.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Postings are personal opinions only, not those of the Boeing Company. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 02:43:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29432; Wed, 17 May 95 02:43:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04295; Wed, 17 May 95 02:23:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04289; Wed, 17 May 95 02:23:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBfED-00038EC; Wed, 17 May 95 02:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ntb@tcisswe.itis.se (Thommy Brolin) Subject: Please Help! Cannot send mail... Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 12:53:15 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Can someone please help me? I have just installed PINE 3.91 on my Compaq Deskpro XL running SCO UNIX 3.2v4.2, and I have a problem. When I compose a mail message, press '^X' to send it and verifies(sp?) with 'Y', I get the message 'no valid author specification present', and no mail is sent (it is posted to the 'post-sent' mailbox, though). I recall someone posting something similar to the 'ELM' newsgroup, and I think it has something to do with MMDF, and some setting that is needed to make sure that the mailer properly inserts the (I think) 'from'-line. As I can't mail at all at the moment, I would be very happy if someone would take the time to help me out on this. Either post the answer in this newsgroup, or e-mail me directly. Thanks in advance Thommy Brolin ntb@itis.se From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 03:27:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00594; Wed, 17 May 95 03:27:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29319; Wed, 17 May 95 03:00:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29313; Wed, 17 May 95 03:00:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBfnZ-00038EC; Wed, 17 May 95 02:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: commas in addresses Date: 17 May 1995 04:22:30 GMT Message-Id: <3pbtm6$i5e@grape.epix.net> References: <3p90i4$1pq@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Status: O X-Status: Xarco R (xarcor@aol.com) wrote: : when trying to send mail in pine I keep getting the message, To Field; : Must use comma to separate addresses. Our to line and subject line appear : to run together. Please E-Mail me, xarcor@aol.com Hummm ... maybe it means you should use a comma to separate addresses. Like if you want to send to frank@iud.com and to garry@sex.net and to mommy@america.off.line ... DON'T type frank@iud.com (then hit your enter key) garry@sex.net (then hit your enter key) mommy@america.off.line instead type frank@iud.com,garry@sex.net,mommy@america.off.line Like the message said, use a comma to separate addresses. BYE, hope this helps, if so, e-mail me with your words of appreciation, if not send complaints to president@whitehouse.gov John (aka DearOldDad) m From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 03:30:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00789; Wed, 17 May 95 03:30:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04890; Wed, 17 May 95 03:24:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04884; Wed, 17 May 95 03:24:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBgBp-00038HC; Wed, 17 May 95 03:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pjh@mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg) Subject: Problems with ipop2d and imapd Message-Id: Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 21:14:50 GMT Status: O X-Status: I built pine, pico, ipop2d, ipop3d and imapd at the same time. I then added the appropriate lines to /etc/inet/inetd.conf. However, telnetting into ports 109 and 143 doesn't work ("connection refused") although telnetting into port 110 is fine. Any ideas as to what I might have done wrong? I'm running UnixWare 2.0. Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 04:06:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02441; Wed, 17 May 95 04:06:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29864; Wed, 17 May 95 03:46:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29858; Wed, 17 May 95 03:46:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBgUY-00038FC; Wed, 17 May 95 03:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: filtering, once and for all Date: 12 May 1995 03:01:06 GMT Message-Id: <3ouj1i$r7i@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com> <3ost0s$dad@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <3ot84l$l69@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3ou3lq$ibb@news.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: In article <3ou3lq$ibb@news.primenet.com>, Bob Brody wrote: >I'm afraid I disagree with your attitude. You seem to think everyone >should work the way you do and that anything else is, uhh, organized >procastination. Bull. [....] I think this is one of those cases where the inability to read intonation into USENET posts is causing flamage where none should exist. I don't think that everyone should work the way I do. Neither do I see no need for filtering programs. After all, I am writing one, and I wouldn't do that if I thought they had no use (even though I won't likely use it much myself). I'm not a fan of offering things to my users that I don't think will help them. I'm simply saying that mail filtering is not a panacea to solve all problems, and that for some people, filtering isn't the best option. I'm more fluid in my mailreading than the rigid rules that filtering provides; and if I find I'm not reading a list, week after week, and it's piling up, then I unsubscribe. For some people, however, it increases organization drastically. I recognize that, and because of that, I'm trying to get a filtering agent that will meet their needs. >BTW, the filtering agent I'm using is FILTER and works just fine >through any of the mail programs since as you say it's not the mail >agent, but the filter agent; the mail agent then offers up the mail. >That's of course best since it allows us Pine users to use Pine, Elm >users to use Elm, Mail users to use Mail, and everybody's happy. Filter unfortunately suffers from some problems of its own, and even the filter developers suggest that serious mail-filter users should use procmail instead. But if it does what you want, and you're not experiencing mail locking problems, then you should use it. I should note here that I will soon be removing Elm, Mail, etc. from my machines. Not because I don't think they should use the other interfaces (to the contrary, I have several news readers, web browsers, editors, etc., even though that increases our work) but because Pine is the only freely-distributable interface using IMAP, and we're going to remove local filesystem access to mail very soon (we already have for all our Pine users). Is anyone working on backends to Elm, etc., that use IMAP like Pine does? -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 05:10:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04370; Wed, 17 May 95 05:10:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05943; Wed, 17 May 95 04:39:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05937; Wed, 17 May 95 04:39:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBhMk-00038EC; Wed, 17 May 95 04:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stefan Berg Subject: Newbie question: Organization field when posting by NNTP? Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 20:30:10 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi there! I'm all new to Pine, but I have a question to which I have been unable to find any answer in the Pine documentation: When posting to Usenet from Pine by NNTP to my ISP, Pine apparently does not enter an "Organization:" field in the header of the posting. My ISP detects this, and happily inserts that field himself - unfortunately, by adding his organization and not mine... :-( Question: Can I make Pine insert that field, or shall I make a small patch of my own? -- Stefan Berg Consultron Data sfb@consultron.se From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 06:34:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06624; Wed, 17 May 95 06:34:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07139; Wed, 17 May 95 06:23:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07133; Wed, 17 May 95 06:23:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBj2D-00038HC; Wed, 17 May 95 06:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rjinla@netcom.com (Rob Jaczko) Subject: Pine on a Mac ?? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 11:59:38 GMT Status: O X-Status: Greetings ! This may be an absurd question but ... Is there a version of Pine that I can run on a Mac ?? I've been watching for a FAQ, or other related posts & I'm guessing that it's Pine for PC only ... Any pointers appreciated. Cheers !! Rob - rj@ose.com -- _______________________ Rob Jaczko - rj@ose.com On Site Entertainment, Inc. - (800) 299-OSE1 / (617) 235-0916 On Site Entertainment, Inc. _________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 06:34:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06663; Wed, 17 May 95 06:34:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02299; Wed, 17 May 95 06:23:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02293; Wed, 17 May 95 06:23:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBj0u-00038EC; Wed, 17 May 95 06:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Re: .signature file Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 00:40:20 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3p677a$fbo@warp.cris.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3p677a$fbo@warp.cris.com> Status: O X-Status: On 15 May 1995, David Reynolds wrote: > Is it possible to use mutliple signature files? If so, how does one > specify which file to use? Possibly the simplest thing to do is to write whatever multiple signature files you want and store them under separate short names. When you compose a message, just read in whichever one you want. I am not aware of any method which will automatically tack on one or another sig file. It would have to know somehow which one to tack on for which message based on some kind or other of criteria. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 07:48:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09730; Wed, 17 May 95 07:48:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08444; Wed, 17 May 95 07:39:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu6.psi.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08434; Wed, 17 May 95 07:39:25 -0700 Received: from iceman.eaglesoft.com by uu6.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA17132 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 17 May 95 10:39:23 -0400 Received: from maverick by iceman (5.4R3.10) id AA11410; Wed, 17 May 1995 09:39:18 -0500 Received: by maverick (5.4R3.00) id AA02218; Wed, 17 May 1995 09:39:18 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 09:39:17 -0500 (CST) From: Dale Swindler X-Sender: dale@maverick To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine-like editor? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is there an editor available that works similarly to Pine? I have found it very easy to use and would like to use it instead of the other editors that are on my system. VI is available but seems to be best suited for the programmers and often times I don't need all the overhead that is associated with using WordPerfect for Unix. Can you help me or send me the email address of someone who can? Thank you. Dale Swindler Email: dale@eaglesoft.com EAGLE Software, Inc. Phone: 913-823-7260 x125 123 Indiana Ave Fax: 913-823-6185 Salina, KS 67401 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 08:05:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10444; Wed, 17 May 95 08:05:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08694; Wed, 17 May 95 07:52:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08688; Wed, 17 May 95 07:52:56 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id KAA15242; Wed, 17 May 1995 10:52:47 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id KAA05308; Wed, 17 May 1995 10:52:25 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA07368; Wed, 17 May 95 10:50:34 EDT Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 10:50:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Dale Swindler Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine-like editor? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 17 May 1995, Dale Swindler wrote: > Is there an editor available that works similarly to Pine? I have found > it very easy to use and would like to use it instead of the other editors > that are on my system. VI is available but seems to be best suited for > the programmers and often times I don't need all the overhead that is > associated with using WordPerfect for Unix. > > Can you help me or send me the email address of someone who can? > > Thank you. > > Pico, the Pine editor, is packaged with Pine. It may be installed on your host already. If not, you can get it in source or compiled from ftp.cac.washington.edu. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 08:33:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20648; Wed, 17 May 95 08:33:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04514; Wed, 17 May 95 08:09:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04484; Wed, 17 May 95 08:09:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBkgl-00038DC; Wed, 17 May 95 08:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jude DaShiell Subject: starting up pine neatly Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 04:09:49 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I'd like to know if it's possible to start pine up in such a way that if there's no email it will move me automatically into reading newsgroups. I tried: pine -Iln to get there and the l worked all right but pine wouldn't take the n after the l. I'm wondering if something like this could be set in the configuration file .pinerc. btw, pine's interface to the configuration file isn't speech friendly so I'll be using ex to get the fixes done if this is where they're best put. If I have email that's first priority but if not I'd like to know if I can bypass the menu and drop into my newsgroups list automatically. jude From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 09:45:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28765; Wed, 17 May 95 09:45:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20854; Wed, 17 May 95 09:32:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20273; Wed, 17 May 95 09:31:40 -0700 Received: from trex (trex.kwantlen.bc.ca) by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA10114; Wed, 17 May 1995 09:31:07 -0700 Received: by trex (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA26345; Wed, 17 May 1995 09:30:55 +0800 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 09:30:54 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dumaresq X-Sender: david@trex To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: future delivery Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 646 Status: O X-Status: Does pine 3.91 have a future delivery feature. In effect, can I create a message and tell pine to deliver it at some time in the future. If not is this planned for some future version of pine :^) David. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 10:02:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04148; Wed, 17 May 95 10:02:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11661; Wed, 17 May 95 09:54:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11650; Wed, 17 May 95 09:54:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBmKs-00038FC; Wed, 17 May 95 09:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: john@albem.southern.co.nz (John Collis) Subject: Re: Can pine read POP mail Date: Tue, 16 May 95 11:49:36 GMT Message-Id: <950516Z114936.511john@albem.southern.co.nz> References: Status: O X-Status: In article hoang1@litwin.com "Ted Hoang" writes: > Hi, > Could someone tell me: Can pine read POP mail? > If it can, please tell me how to do it. I'd be interested in knowing too! -- John Collis albem@southern.co.nz From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 10:09:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04627; Wed, 17 May 95 10:09:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28312; Wed, 17 May 95 10:04:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28306; Wed, 17 May 95 10:04:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBmRQ-00038DC; Wed, 17 May 95 09:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Aggregate commands problem Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 15:29:37 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: One thing that's always bothered me is that the aggregate command (F)orward doesn't forward discrete messages, but concatenates them together into a single (occasionally huge) file and forwards that. It also seems to do this with print jobs, though I might be mistaken - terminal programs butcher printing so badly you can never tell. The problem stems from a desire on the part of several of my users to forward their old mail to them in a huge batch. I had hoped I could tag all of them and apply (B)ounce to them. But that wasn't available, and when I applied (F)orward to them, it stuck them into what amounts to a digest file and wanted to forward that. I wound up running a keyboard macro to bounce the messages individually to their new accounts. I'd love for discrete forwarding of tagged messages to be an option in the next release, and I'd also be tickled if bounce became a command you can apply to a tagged set. It seems that those are almost identical problems. [Sorry if you've seen this before - I believe our news system was dropping outgoing articles in the bit bucket when I sent this before.] Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 10:24:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05550; Wed, 17 May 95 10:24:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12144; Wed, 17 May 95 10:14:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12138; Wed, 17 May 95 10:14:31 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id NAA23731; Wed, 17 May 1995 13:14:19 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id NAA15274; Wed, 17 May 1995 13:14:18 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA10331; Wed, 17 May 95 13:12:54 EDT Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 13:12:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Gunther Anderson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Aggregate commands problem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 17 May 1995, Gunther Anderson wrote: > > The problem stems from a desire on the part of several of my users to > forward their old mail to them in a huge batch. I had hoped I could tag > all of them and apply (B)ounce to them. But that wasn't available, and > when I applied (F)orward to them, it stuck them into what amounts to a > digest file and wanted to forward that. Why not save the messages to a folder and send them the folder as an attachment. They would merely have to Save the attachment to / for the folder to end up in their mail directory. (Having said that, I just postponed this message while, I tried it out and it worked fine.) Regards, Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 10:52:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14131; Wed, 17 May 95 10:52:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12755; Wed, 17 May 95 10:42:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ssi.edc.org by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12749; Wed, 17 May 95 10:42:50 -0700 Received: from ssi.edc.org by ssi.edc.org id aa11768; 17 May 95 13:41 EDT Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 13:41:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Gunther Anderson To: Don Sugarman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Aggregate commands problem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > Why not save the messages to a folder and send them the folder as an > attachment. They would merely have to Save the attachment to > / for the folder to end up in their mail directory. Incompatible mailbox types. We're using MMDF here, and the target system is Berkeley/sendmail. Most (but not all, of course) of the folders are definitely MMDF boxes, with the ^A^A^A^A at the top. While I could go edit those for them and strip out the ^A's, it becomes a hassle. And very few non-MMDF systems bother to compile in the MMDF support code in Pine/IMAP. And the other thing is, suppose it were something like cc:Mail, where the folder format is not only totally incompatible, but propriatary and hidden. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 12:06:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18534; Wed, 17 May 95 12:06:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11602; Wed, 17 May 95 12:00:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11596; Wed, 17 May 95 12:00:23 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14097; Wed, 17 May 95 12:00:20 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 12:00:18 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Barry Bouwsma Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.92? In-Reply-To: <3p9cnm$111@news.ysu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: We don't know yet. If the IMAP4 c-client is useable by the time we get Pine 3.92 finished and stable, we will probably make the switch then, but there is always the possibility of external pressures or unforseen problems... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 16 May 1995, Barry Bouwsma wrote: > Date: 16 May 1995 05:20:54 GMT > From: Barry Bouwsma > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Pine 3.92? > > > In a previous article, mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin) says: > > >More flexible capability is coming in IMAP4 support, but that will be in > >a version of Pine after 3.92 (I am alpha-testing IMAP4 code now). > > If I may ask, how many more upgrades of Pine3.* are planned or > anticipated before moving along to IMAP4-Pine4.*? After 3.92 (and any > bugfix/maintenance releases), will there be any more feature-laden > releases without IMAP4 support, comparable to the new features being > provided in 3.92? Or doesn't anyone want to hazard a prediction about > this? > > Thanks... > -- > Barry Bouwsma, I Have No Life > ______________http://199.44.25.9/~olaryb/peo.html______________ > In a blindfolded taste test, 4 of 5 newsreaders could not tell the > difference between Spam and Velveeta... > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 13:13:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01765; Wed, 17 May 95 13:13:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15900; Wed, 17 May 95 13:09:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15894; Wed, 17 May 95 13:09:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBpMy-00038FC; Wed, 17 May 95 13:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Alexander Zimmermann Subject: Alias list for newsgroups? Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 17:35:59 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, Is it possible in pine to set up alias lists for newsgroups? Alex -------------------------------------------------------- Alexander Zimmermann Smail: Preziosastr. 25 81927 Muenchen Germany Email: zimmerma@cip.informatik.uni-muenchen.de WWW: http://www.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/~zimmerma/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 14:24:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05258; Wed, 17 May 95 14:24:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25552; Wed, 17 May 95 14:19:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25546; Wed, 17 May 95 14:19:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBqSL-00038IC; Wed, 17 May 95 14:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Carl Reimann Subject: pine closes folders slowly Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 21:07:06 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Can anyone suggest some explanations about why it takes Pine much longer to close folders than to open them? The folders in question are say 1/2 MB in length. Pine here runs on a fast server with less than 1.0 load at this time. Version 3.91. Is it simply that the file is 1/2 MB in length? That doesn't make sense to me, because I just used emacs, as a test, to edit the same folder. It took less than one second to load the file, and less than one second to save it when I made a change to it. This happens with all folders, not just the one I tested (with an innocuous change). Carl From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 14:53:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07045; Wed, 17 May 95 14:53:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17934; Wed, 17 May 95 14:49:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17928; Wed, 17 May 95 14:49:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBqsz-00038DC; Wed, 17 May 95 14:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Re: Pine-like editor? Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 12:19:07 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 17 May 1995, Dale Swindler wrote: > Date: 17 MAY 1995 07:46:11 -0700 > From: Dale Swindler > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Pine-like editor? > > Is there an editor available that works similarly to Pine? I have found > it very easy to use and would like to use it instead of the other editors > that are on my system. VI is available but seems to be best suited for > the programmers and often times I don't need all the overhead that is > associated with using WordPerfect for Unix. Pine's composer has been "split out" as a separate editor called Pico (PIne COmposer). If you are using Unix Pine, I would suppose that Pico is also lurking around somewhere from the installation of Pine. Just try entering "pico" or "pico " (no quotes). If that doesn't work, try looking in the libraries /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin. Failing that, ask your system administrator. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 16:40:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10683; Wed, 17 May 95 16:40:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28678; Wed, 17 May 95 16:35:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28653; Wed, 17 May 95 16:34:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBsaK-00038DC; Wed, 17 May 95 16:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: skc@pwa.acusd.edu (*-!SaRah!-*) Subject: I want a piece of your mind! Message-Id: Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 21:39:15 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hello, I am a college student at the University of San Diego, in California. I am currently in the process of doing a survey on college students' usage of e-mail. I am interested in any advice you have about e-mail and how it has affected you. Hopefully you are a college student and a user of the system. I would like to know how you feel about it. What are the greatest benefits it brings you? And the negative aspects? E-mail can be a powerful thing. Do you think it will change in the future? Do you think it should? If you have ever heard of it short-circuting or if this has happened to you let me know about it! I am very interested in getting "lively" advice from anyone (preferable college students) who use e-mail, and how it has effected you. Tell me how many hours a week you spend on it etc etc. This is not a research project, it is for a journalism story, so I need interesting facts and opinions!! I do not know too much about e-mail, so anything will be greatly appreciated! Please respond quickly, seeing as our College finals are just around the corner!! My address is skc@pwa.acusd.edu ---Thank you!----- Sarah -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 16:40:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10707; Wed, 17 May 95 16:40:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19914; Wed, 17 May 95 16:35:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19908; Wed, 17 May 95 16:35:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBsaN-00038FC; Wed, 17 May 95 16:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: skc@pwa.acusd.edu (*-!SaRah!-*) Subject: I want a piece of your mind! Message-Id: Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 21:40:07 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hello, I am a college student at the University of San Diego, in California. I am currently in the process of doing a survey on college students' usage of e-mail. I am interested in any advice you have about e-mail and how it has affected you. Hopefully you are a college student and a user of the system. I would like to know how you feel about it. What are the greatest benefits it brings you? And the negative aspects? E-mail can be a powerful thing. Do you think it will change in the future? Do you think it should? If you have ever heard of it short-circuting or if this has happened to you let me know about it! I am very interested in getting "lively" advice from anyone (preferable college students) who use e-mail, and how it has effected you. Tell me how many hours a week you spend on it etc etc. This is not a research project, it is for a journalism story, so I need interesting facts and opinions!! I do not know too much about e-mail, so anything will be greatly appreciated! Please respond quickly, seeing as our College finals are just around the corner!! My address is skc@pwa.acusd.edu ---Thank you!----- Sarah -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 16:53:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11099; Wed, 17 May 95 16:53:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20118; Wed, 17 May 95 16:48:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nwlink.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20112; Wed, 17 May 95 16:47:58 -0700 Received: from mines1 (port17.annex.nwlink.com [199.242.22.81]) by washington.nwlink.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id QAA01446 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 16:47:55 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 23:44:28 -0900 (PDT) From: "Maurice A. Mines" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: problems saving mail that comes from chameleon in pcpine for winsoc (fwd) X-Sender: mmines@washington.nwlink.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Maurice A. Mines Graduate Student City University Seattle WA email mmines@nwlink.com phone 206-242-6614 http://www.nwlink.com/~mmines/welcome.html I want to make the world a better place ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 19:16:42 -0900 (PDT) From: Maurice A. Mines To: lori mcdaniel Cc: pinebuggs@u.washington.edu Subject: problems saving mail that comes from chameleon in pcpine for winsoc On Tue, 16 May 1995, lori mcdaniel wrote: > Date: Tue, 16 May 95 16:10:56 PDT > From: lori mcdaniel > To: "Maurice A. Mines" > Subject: Re: your mail > > Hi Maurice, > > Actually I didn't get the Chameleon problem figured out yet -- I'm just > back at work. Waiting for my sys op to get back. dear pine buggs teem I got this note from a frend that usess this program at work she uesess chameleon 4.0 a lan program for windows how can I save this msg? enny ideas wood be helpful ps if the spelling is alettle off you shood know that I am blind. the speech program that I am using is outspoken for windows. Maurice A. Mines class of 94 > Yes, I certainly will let you know what is going on during that time > frame. So far, I can tell you that kosen-rufu gongyo is *usually* the > first weekend of the month, and daimoku toso on Monday nights from > 6:30-8:00 (gongyo at 7 of course). If kosen-rufu gongyo turns out to be > when it's supposed to be, on a weekend, I'll be happy to give you a ride. > I'm not sure about the toso, though, because I go to those directly from > work. I'll let you know what else comes up. > ------------------------------------- > Lori McDaniel > E-mail: mcdaniel@notis.com > Date: 05/08/95 > Time: 11:49:36 > > > > Maurice A. Mines Graduate Student City University Seattle WA email mmines@nwlink.com phone 206-242-6614 http://www.nwlink.com/~mmines/welcome.html I want to make the world a better place From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 18:21:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14475; Wed, 17 May 95 18:21:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00778; Wed, 17 May 95 18:17:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00772; Wed, 17 May 95 18:17:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBu7n-00038FC; Wed, 17 May 95 18:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sfg@nexus.interealm.com (Doug Johnson) Subject: Re: Mail forwarding in pine. Date: 14 May 1995 02:53:59 GMT Message-Id: <3p3rc7$124@nexus.interealm.com> References: Status: O X-Status: ESPINOZA JAIME C (e0f8et4k@tuzo.erin) wrote: : Hi folks. : Quick question.. I just want to know the precise format : to use in the .forward file for forwarding messages to another : location. I know it is simply one line, but like most things.. : I forgot (duh!). : I appreciate it someone could just respond either : here or through email with the appropriate line I need. : Thanks.. : Jaime E. : : -- : . | . "As I lay forgotten and alone, without .8~ . , ~8. : __\|/__ o a tear I draw my parting groan." o Y$@@$"~qp~"$@@$P : \ + / !Y~` e0f8et4k@credit.erin.utoronto.ca '~Y! d*8LJ8*b : rev13.18 / )..o Jaime 'Bill Z. Bub' Espinoza o..( \ !"'! user@somewhere.com No spaces or lines. It needs to be in the upper left of the .forward, first line, first column. -- WHICH WAY DID THEY GO? WHAT WERE THEY DOING? HOW MANY OF THEM WERE THERE? I NEED TO FIND THEM, I'M THEIR LEADER! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 18:57:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15331; Wed, 17 May 95 18:57:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22281; Wed, 17 May 95 18:55:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22275; Wed, 17 May 95 18:55:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBulb-00038DC; Wed, 17 May 95 18:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bashmore@grouse.amd.com (Buster Ashmore) Subject: How to resend mail? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 19:16:45 GMT Status: O X-Status: Maybe I'm suffering a mental block, but is there an easier way to resend a message in the sent-mail folder, without doing a forward and re-entering all the header info. It would be nice if you could also edit to TO: field. Cheers, -- Buster Ashmore email: buster.ashmore@amd.com MACH Products Phone: (512) 602-2143 Advanced Micro Devices WATS: 1-800-538-8450, ext 52143 ***** Public Key available, send mail with subject PGP KEY to me ************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 19:20:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15842; Wed, 17 May 95 19:20:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22424; Wed, 17 May 95 19:05:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from news1.crl.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22418; Wed, 17 May 95 19:05:43 -0700 Received: from dwsa.UUCP by news1.crl.com with UUCP id AA17777 (5.65c/IDA-1.502 for cac.washington.edu!pine-info); Wed, 17 May 1995 18:54:02 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 18:12:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Sridhar Krishnan To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Print-to-Ansi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Pine uses "[5i" and "[6i" to print on a desktop printer connected to the ANSI terminal or the terminal emulator. This works fine. I like this feature. So I tried to emulate the Pine print command by writing a script file called dprint (Unix): # dprint file-name echo "\033[5i" cat $1 echo "\033[6i" This could re-direct printing to my desktop printer. My terminal emulator *hangs* (actually everything is redirected to the printer, so I can't see) when I execute the script. When I close my emulator (Windows based), I get a print-out. I never got the Unix prompt back. What am I doing wrong ? I even tried sending a ^D after the cat. Though this is not a Pine question, I am sure somebody out here knows the answer. Thanks in advance. -- Sridhar (sri@dwsa.com) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 21:02:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18375; Wed, 17 May 95 21:02:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03349; Wed, 17 May 95 20:55:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03343; Wed, 17 May 95 20:55:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBwc1-00038DC; Wed, 17 May 95 20:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: glenn@dcs.uga.edu (Glenn Leavell) Subject: MIME: Pine and Pegasus Mail Date: 17 May 1995 21:30:39 GMT Message-Id: <3pdptv$lbj@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> Status: O X-Status: I'm experiencing some trouble *reading* MIME articles in Pine 3.91 that were sent to me from non-Pine MIME-compliant mailers. For example, when a colleague sends me a MIME note from Pegasus Mail for Windows (Version 20 Wide Beta) and attaches a GIF image file, Pine doesn't show the extra attachment, although the MIME headers look correct to me. Instead the BASE64 version of the GIF file is seen in the standard text portion of the note. On the other hand, when I send him an attachment, he *does* see it, although his external GIF viewer does not start automatically, as it normally does. Instead, he has to select to save the file and then manually view it. Is there a known bug in Pine regarding this type of behavior? Any help would be appreciated. -- Glenn Leavell, glenn@uga.edu University of Georgia, University Computing and Networking Services From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 23:28:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21685; Wed, 17 May 95 23:28:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05652; Wed, 17 May 95 23:21:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05646; Wed, 17 May 95 23:21:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBysr-00038MC; Wed, 17 May 95 23:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bmartin@rufous.yorku.ca (Martin Bernard) Subject: Help: pine vs. zmlite - which requires more system maintenance? Date: 17 May 1995 16:23:48 GMT Message-Id: <3pd7uk$38@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Status: O X-Status: UNIX gurus and and systems administrators might be able to answer my questions about the sort of maintenance required to keep pine running on a mail system. I have student mail account on an RS/6000 server running AIX v.3. The only mail reader provided that more sophisticated than Unix "mail" is zmail. Because I have a low-speed modem connection and can only use a text-based mail reader, I have to use zmlite, zmail's text-oriented reflex. Zmlite is, to say the least, rebarbative: it is slow, gobbles up precious bandwidth with endless dialog boxes, and is difficult to customize. I would prefer to use a mail reader like pine, but the local system administrator nixed the idea, saying that he didn't have the human resources necessary to maintain more than one mail program (i.e. zmlite) on his servers in the event of changes to system configurations. He felt that the computer systems help staff would also be overloaded if they had to support user inquiries about pine in addition to inquiries about zmail/zmlite. He also said that because zmail/zmlite was a commercial program, he could rely on ready support. Questions: 1) Is this true or is it a crock? Does a system administrator (particularly one running it on AIX) have to perform significant housekeeping on pine? 2) How does system maintenance of pine compare to that of other mail readers, particularly elm and zmail/zmlite? Is commercial user support a substantial bonus? Private responses are preferred, but please post to the group if your response is of general interest. -- Bernard Martin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 17 23:55:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22288; Wed, 17 May 95 23:55:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26142; Wed, 17 May 95 23:50:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26134; Wed, 17 May 95 23:50:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sBzLg-00038DC; Wed, 17 May 95 23:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jzhou@nyx.cs.du.edu (Junze Zhou) Subject: Change userid, possible? Date: 16 May 1995 14:54:55 -0600 Message-Id: <3pb3ev$cgk@nyx.cs.du.edu> Status: O X-Status: The mailer of our Internet gateway is configured so that incoming mail must be sent to user account on the gateway machine (say A). I am running pine on another machine (say B). The account name on A and B are different. When sending mail, the From line is automatically changed to account-B@machine-A When people type r to reply, the reply mail is always bounced because there is no account-B on the gateway machine. Is there a way to get around this problem? Please reply by e-mail. Thanks a lot! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 00:26:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23343; Thu, 18 May 95 00:26:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26594; Thu, 18 May 95 00:22:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from is1.hk.super.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26588; Thu, 18 May 95 00:22:39 -0700 Received: by is1.hk.super.net id AA17442 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for Pine-Info ); Thu, 18 May 1995 15:22:36 +0800 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 15:22:36 +0800 (HKT) From: Kevin Yeung To: Pine-Info Subject: Quote longer than reply Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello everybody, I use pine to read/reply news and it works fine until just then I realized it didn't let me post when "quote longer than reply." Geez, somehow I really had to. How to switch off this ugly feature? Thank you. -- Kevin Yeung email: keviny@hk.super.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 00:58:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24074; Thu, 18 May 95 00:58:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07091; Thu, 18 May 95 00:51:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07085; Thu, 18 May 95 00:50:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sC0IP-00038FC; Thu, 18 May 95 00:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gjrsoft@cais2.cais.com (Gene J. Raymond) Subject: Re: 3.90 Highlighting current message Date: 18 May 1995 01:21:42 GMT Message-Id: <3pe7f6$okm@news.cais.com> References: <3p5a7l$dpm@lucy.infi.net> Status: O X-Status: In article <3p5a7l$dpm@lucy.infi.net>, Danny Moses wrote: >In Pine 3.90, when I'm in my inbox, the current message is identified by an >arrow to the left of it. In previous versions of Pine, the current message >was identified by a reverse video highlight bar that covers the entire >message. It was much easier to spot which message was selected as current >in my opinion. In the pine help, there is mention that pine will use the arrow instead of highlighting when it is "...used over a low speed dialup line...". Where you using it over a modem in one instance and over a direct connection in another? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* Gene J. Raymond gjrsoft@cais.com (primary) GJRSoft@aol.com GJR Software Products PO Box 3416 Se habla espanol. Merrifield, VA 22116-3416 On parle francais. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* Gene J. Raymond gjrsoft@cais.com (primary) GJRSoft@aol.com GJR Software Products PO Box 3416 Se habla espanol. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 01:01:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24262; Thu, 18 May 95 01:01:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07151; Thu, 18 May 95 00:56:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07141; Thu, 18 May 95 00:56:14 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA06570; Thu, 18 May 95 09:54:19 +0200 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 09:54:18 +0200 (METDST) From: "Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD?=)" To: The Pine Discussion List Subject: Re: How to resend mail? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 17 May 1995, Buster Ashmore wrote: > Maybe I'm suffering a mental block, but is there an easier way to resend > a message in the sent-mail folder, without doing a forward and > re-entering all the header info. It would be nice if you could also edit > to TO: field.=20 Use B(ounce) command (you may need to enable it in S(etup) C(onfig) menu). This should do the work (althoug you cannot change the To: field, you can= =20 add a new Resent-To: field). Happy pining! (I hope this word doesn't mean anything bad) V. S. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz Europe Files (with description!) place to ftp://ftp.utia.cas.cz/pub/income/vs Maybe valid: http://www.utia.cas.cz/home/WWW/data/user_data/vs/vs-home.http From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 01:52:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25755; Thu, 18 May 95 01:52:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27784; Thu, 18 May 95 01:47:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27778; Thu, 18 May 95 01:47:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sC17Q-00038KC; Thu, 18 May 95 01:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Re: Pine-like editor? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 11:39:49 -0600 References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 17 May 1995, Don Sugarman wrote: | Date: 17 MAY 1995 08:01:18 -0700 | From: Don Sugarman | Newgroups: comp.mail.pine | Subject: Re: Pine-like editor? | | On Wed, 17 May 1995, Dale Swindler wrote: | | > Is there an editor available that works similarly to Pine? I have found | > it very easy to use and would like to use it instead of the other editors | > that are on my system. VI is available but seems to be best suited for | > the programmers and often times I don't need all the overhead that is | > associated with using WordPerfect for Unix. | > | > Can you help me or send me the email address of someone who can? | > | > Thank you. | > | > | Pico, the Pine editor, is packaged with Pine. It may be installed on | your host already. If not, you can get it in source or compiled from | ftp.cac.washington.edu. | | I highly recommend joe2.8. It's no harder to use than pico, but it's much more powerful. ftp.std.com:/src/editors/joe2.8.tar.Z -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 Comment: Processed by mkpgp1.1.4, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAgUBL7ngdeBu0383Om6dAQH7QgP6Aj+eLeXb4apeZTUmgWynBGGLQMdl8EEc /Cf1Qp2UAfU9j1RGQxAeM4A6B04+gtDH1TXx+lV/NfgjTSsJdCLxVpDA5na3r+iS WTJck1xNmnaqRdVdDeIcqlrm4EQ9224ra5HG7LfQxP1tU+HZ0bWfYkxPbQMbFtBF lMWg1qGXBW8= =moSx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka "The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 02:04:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26004; Thu, 18 May 95 02:04:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08248; Thu, 18 May 95 01:57:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08242; Thu, 18 May 95 01:57:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sC1Jg-00038LC; Thu, 18 May 95 01:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: RJB Subject: Pine Bug with non Berkley Mail ? Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 23:51:30 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have been having problems using pine to retrieve mail from my POP3 mailbox. Once logged in, as my messages start transferring pine aborts with "Pine Bug received abort signal". I thought it was a problem with the POP interface but now I am wondering. The same problem happens when I try to open a local MH style inbox. I noticed that the MH format is different from standard UNIX mail in that the first line "FROM Somesystem Date" (not FROM: whoever) is not part of the header. If I add this line, then pine can read the message normally. What does this all mean? Is the bug elsewhere? Does someone out there have the answer? Please help! Robert Burns (procecorjb@vir.com) mtl., ca. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 02:17:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26228; Thu, 18 May 95 02:17:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28093; Thu, 18 May 95 02:12:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28087; Thu, 18 May 95 02:12:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sC1aJ-00038LC; Thu, 18 May 95 02:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: xarcor@aol.com (Xarco R) Subject: Re: commas in addresses Date: 17 May 1995 20:46:55 -0400 Message-Id: <3pe5e0$rhp@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3pbtm6$i5e@grape.epix.net> Status: O X-Status: John, After reading your suggestions again about separating addresses with commas I realized that what I was doing wrong was not hitting the enter key after each field advancement. This is where I was getting the error message. Next I need to figure out if the newsgroups I have on America online can be subscribed to from the news and conferance section of my "Tass newsreader"that I use with Pine . Please e-mail me with any suggestions. Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 02:36:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26565; Thu, 18 May 95 02:36:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08751; Thu, 18 May 95 02:30:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08732; Thu, 18 May 95 02:29:39 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA08068; Thu, 18 May 95 11:25:14 +0200 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 11:25:14 +0200 (METDST) From: "Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD?=)" To: RJB Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Bug with non Berkley Mail ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 16 May 1995, RJB wrote: > I have been having problems using pine to retrieve mail from my > POP3 mailbox. Once logged in, as my messages start transferring > pine aborts with "Pine Bug received abort signal". I thought it > was a problem with the POP interface but now I am wondering. > The same problem happens when I try to open a local MH style inbox. > I noticed that the MH format is different from standard UNIX mail > in that the first line "FROM Somesystem Date" (not FROM: whoever) =20 > is not part of the header. If I add this line, then pine can read the > message normally. What does this all mean? Is the bug elsewhere? This is not an answer, only a pointer. 1) There was a patch for pine sent= =20 to this mailing-list which solved some bugs in pine POP code a mont or=20 two (or three) ago. Maybe you need it (I hope pine development team will=20 put into versiom 3.92 although they probably do not continue in=20 development of this part). 2) Also a short time ago there was a noto sent= =20 here you have to say something like #MHINBOX instead of INBOX if you use=20 inbox in MH format. Please try to get more sure pieces of information=20 before doing this. This text relies on my memory only! Regards V. S. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz Europe Files (with description!) place to ftp://ftp.utia.cas.cz/pub/income/vs Maybe valid: http://www.utia.cas.cz/home/WWW/data/user_data/vs/vs-home.http From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 03:26:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27771; Thu, 18 May 95 03:26:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28813; Thu, 18 May 95 03:16:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28807; Thu, 18 May 95 03:16:46 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 18 May 1995 11:13:22 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id LAA26205; Thu, 18 May 1995 11:17:13 +0100 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 11:17:12 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Kevin Yeung Cc: Pine-Info Subject: Re: Quote longer than reply In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This is nothing to do with Pine, but with your news server. It is possible for the systems administrator to configure the news server to reject articles -- doesn't matter if they come from Pine, Tie, whatever -- if there is more "included" text than original material contributed to the article by yourself. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On Thu, 18 May 1995, Kevin Yeung wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I use pine to read/reply news and it works fine until just then I > realized it didn't let me post when "quote longer than reply." Geez, > somehow I really had to. How to switch off this ugly feature? Thank you. > > -- > Kevin Yeung > email: keviny@hk.super.net > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 04:20:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29912; Thu, 18 May 95 04:20:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10596; Thu, 18 May 95 04:11:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pogo.den.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10590; Thu, 18 May 95 04:11:01 -0700 Received: by pogo.den.mmc.com (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00241; Thu, 18 May 95 05:10:56 -0600 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 05:10:55 -0600 (MDT) From: Michael S Hartman To: Buster Ashmore Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to resend mail? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Just move your cursor over the one you want to sent, and type a "c" for compose. Mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 06:09:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02635; Thu, 18 May 95 06:09:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12178; Thu, 18 May 95 06:02:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12172; Thu, 18 May 95 06:02:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sC584-00038IC; Thu, 18 May 95 05:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Sorting mailing list mail? Date: 18 May 1995 12:39:40 GMT Message-Id: <3pff6c$812@grape.epix.net> References: <3onpp4$v75@hermes.acs.ryerson.ca> Status: O X-Status: Roberts Freimuts (freimuts@acs.ryerson.ca) wrote: some stuff and then ... ... : I want to read the mailing list mail, that is why I subscribe to the : mailing list, but it would be nice to read my private mail first. Private mail should have a + on the left side of the screen, so you can readily distinguish it from list stuff. : Also might it be possible to group all mail from one mailing list together? Not automatically, if that's what you mean, but make a folder for each list and (s)ave them to the applicable folder, then read them when you get a chance. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 06:23:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02942; Thu, 18 May 95 06:23:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01325; Thu, 18 May 95 06:11:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01319; Thu, 18 May 95 06:11:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sC5Il-00038HC; Thu, 18 May 95 06:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access5.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Re: Novice: How to send a mail packet? Date: 15 May 1995 18:48:04 GMT Message-Id: <3p87l4$n0c@news3.digex.net> References: <3mufu4$ki4@clarknet.clark.net> Status: O X-Status: Andy Longton (alongton@clark.net) wrote: : [ Article crossposted from comp.mail.headers ] : [ Author was Andy Longton ] : [ Posted on 17 Apr 1995 19:32:00 GMT ] : Any help with this would be appreciated.... : I'm writing a _very_ _simple_ program to send mail using an ANSI (not : SLIP) modem connection. So far, I've been able to send messages by : poking keystrokes into PINE. Create an RFC 821 (SMTP) envelope, prefix your messages with RFC 841 headers, add a CR LF . CR LF between messages, and then you can use /usr/lib/sendmail -bb in front of the file, and just send out the message as an ascii packet into sendmail. I'll write you privately, as this is something I'm working on. Maybe we can work together on this. -- Ask me about Listmgr - the first PC-Based mailing list manager for E-Mail. Find out about "The Gatekeeper: The Gate Contracts" - Write to address below. Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net "The Greatest Philosopher in the World, maybe the Greatest who ever lived." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 06:43:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03432; Thu, 18 May 95 06:43:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12490; Thu, 18 May 95 06:23:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12484; Thu, 18 May 95 06:23:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sC5TM-00038HC; Thu, 18 May 95 06:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Alphabeticize folders? Date: 18 May 1995 12:43:11 GMT Message-Id: <3pffcv$812@grape.epix.net> References: <3peif9$otl@news.cuny.edu> Status: O X-Status: David Godinger (daveg@imageek.york.cuny.edu) wrote: : How do I play with the order of folders in PINE? Pine lists the 3 default folders (inbox, sent-mail, saved-messages) first, then all others that you create are alphabetized automatically, not sure you can change that easily. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 06:51:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03603; Thu, 18 May 95 06:51:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01580; Thu, 18 May 95 06:33:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01574; Thu, 18 May 95 06:33:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sC5c4-00038FC; Thu, 18 May 95 06:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access5.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Re: When is offline reading planned? Date: 15 May 1995 18:50:43 GMT Message-Id: <3p87q3$n0c@news3.digex.net> References: Status: O X-Status: David Dumaresq (david@Kwantlen.BC.CA) wrote: : Any word on when offline reading will be available for Pine? What I'd like to see is a version of the UNIX release ported down to the PC so that those who just simply want to use Pine the same way as a Unix system does (it reads a mailbox, it writes to a file and then runs a program to deliver that file to the mail system), that would be much more useful than any of the current PC releases that mandate use of a network card and cannot be used otherwise. -- Ask me about Listmgr - the first PC-Based mailing list manager for E-Mail. Find out about "The Gatekeeper: The Gate Contracts" - Write to address below. Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net "The Greatest Philosopher in the World, maybe the Greatest who ever lived." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 07:14:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04093; Thu, 18 May 95 07:14:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01989; Thu, 18 May 95 07:03:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01983; Thu, 18 May 95 07:03:42 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 18 May 1995 14:58:14 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id PAA00824; Thu, 18 May 1995 15:01:28 +0100 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 15:01:28 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Michael S Hartman Cc: Buster Ashmore , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to resend mail? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I missed the original question, but I don't think this answer is the one you want... "C" *always* starts composing a brand new message. What your cursor is positioned over is irrelevant. "R" (reply) starts a reply to the person who sent you the current message. Their e-mail address is filled in automatically from the message you currently have selected, and you are given the chance to include the text of the original message to provide context. "F" (forward) forwards the message on to a third party. Thus if user A send user B a message, and B then forwards it to C, C received the message marked as being from B. If C selects "reply" the reply will be sent to B. Whilst forwarding B is given the chance to add text to the message they are forwarding. "B" (bounce) *resends* the current message. This is extremely useful when a you have received a message that someone else should deal with (eg, perhaps you are manning a Help Desk). In the above example, if user B *bounces* the message to user C, user C receives it marked "from" user A. This means they can just hit "R" to reply straight to the original author (user A). Bouncing a message simply passes the message on; you don't get a chance to add to the message. User C is told that it came via B by "Resent-from:" header lines. The Bounce command is not available by default (to keep Pine's basic command set simple for new users). You must go into the Setup Configuration screen (S then C from the Main Menu) and select the "enable-bounce-command" feature. Hope this helps! Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On Thu, 18 May 1995, Michael S Hartman wrote: > Just move your cursor over the one you want to sent, and type a "c" for > compose. > > Mike > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 07:15:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04128; Thu, 18 May 95 07:15:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13193; Thu, 18 May 95 07:06:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13187; Thu, 18 May 95 07:06:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sC68v-00038HC; Thu, 18 May 95 07:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: cmsg cancel <3pff6c$812@grape.epix.net> Control: cancel <3pff6c$812@grape.epix.net> Date: 18 May 1995 13:01:44 GMT Message-Id: <3pfgfo$99t@grape.epix.net> Status: O X-Status: Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 07:20:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04301; Thu, 18 May 95 07:20:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02116; Thu, 18 May 95 07:11:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02110; Thu, 18 May 95 07:11:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sC6G5-00038HC; Thu, 18 May 95 07:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: PINE 3.91 ported to AIX 4.1.2 yet? Date: 14 May 1995 15:28:31 GMT Message-Id: <3p57iv$1cn6@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Sean Harp wrote: >I've been trying to compile Pine 3.91 under AIX 4.1.2 and it is >proving to be quite challenging (actually, trying to compile much of >anything under 4.1.2 is challenging). Is there an official port to AIX >4.1.2 being done? Should I just wait or attempt it myself? Yep, I can't compile anything on my 4.1.2 box either...compile it on a 3.2.5 box and move the binaries over. Failing that, there are binaries for 3.2.5 on ftp.cac.washington.edu, you can use them just fine. If they don't get gcc to work under 4.1.2 soon, I'm going to take a long vacation until it does... :) -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 07:34:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04677; Thu, 18 May 95 07:34:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13465; Thu, 18 May 95 07:21:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13459; Thu, 18 May 95 07:21:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sC6Qu-00038HC; Thu, 18 May 95 07:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hurtta@dionysos.fmi.fi (Kari E. Hurtta) Subject: Re: Novice: How to send a mail packet? Date: 17 May 1995 10:25:47 GMT Message-Id: <3pcivb$lou@kronos.fmi.fi> References: <3mufu4$ki4@clarknet.clark.net> <3p87l4$n0c@news3.digex.net> In-Reply-To: Article <3p87l4$n0c@news3.digex.net> of Paul Robinson Status: O X-Status: [ Added comp.mail.sendmail as receiver. Followups to comp.mail.sendmail ] tdarcos@access5.digex.net (Paul Robinson) writes in comp.mail.{mime,pine,elm}: »Create an RFC 821 (SMTP) envelope, prefix your messages with RFC 841 »headers, add a CR LF . CR LF between messages, and then you can use »/usr/lib/sendmail -bb in front of the file, and just send out the message »as an ascii packet into sendmail. "-bb" -- What version of sendmail have that option? That operation mode is not in sendmail 8.6 (at least): #define MD_DELIVER 'm' /* be a mail sender */ #define MD_SMTP 's' /* run SMTP on standard input */ #define MD_ARPAFTP 'a' /* obsolete ARPANET mode (Grey Book) */ #define MD_DAEMON 'd' /* run as a daemon */ #define MD_VERIFY 'v' /* verify: don't collect or deliver */ #define MD_TEST 't' /* test mode: resolve addrs only */ #define MD_INITALIAS 'i' /* initialize alias database */ #define MD_PRINT 'p' /* print the queue */ #define MD_FREEZE 'z' /* freeze the configuration file */ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 07:39:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04873; Thu, 18 May 95 07:39:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13501; Thu, 18 May 95 07:23:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from actcom.co.il by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13483; Thu, 18 May 95 07:23:47 -0700 Received: from galtronics.UUCP by actcom.co.il with UUCPgaltronics (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id RAA10970 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 18 May 1995 17:24:10 +0300 (rfc931-sender: uucp@localhost) Received: by aviion.galtronics.co.il (5.4R2.10/ACTCOM-GALTRONICS-S-1.0) id AA15027; Thu, 18 May 1995 11:35:04 GMT Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 11:35:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Aladdin Khamis To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Setting MY SMTP SERVER TO Work with PC-PINE? In-Reply-To: <3pdptv$lbj@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi all, Does anybody know how to set an SMTP server in UNIX, so PC-PINE is able to use it and sends and receives E-mail ? P.s. I looked through the FAQ for pine, but I still have some hard time doing it. Any help will be appreciated Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 07:40:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04930; Thu, 18 May 95 07:40:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02346; Thu, 18 May 95 07:26:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02340; Thu, 18 May 95 07:26:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sC6Sw-00038HC; Thu, 18 May 95 07:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access5.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Make File for Turbo C for Dos Date: 15 May 1995 18:54:06 GMT Message-Id: <3p880e$n0c@news3.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: Is there a makefile to allow me to compile the Unix-based source for Pine so I can run it as a standalone file-processing (mailbox access) mailer on my IBM-PC rather than a networked one? I'd probably have to edit the source files to change the include file names. The version of Turbo C++ I have is Turbo C++ version 3.0 which includes Turbo C. Is there anything special I need to be aware of? -- Ask me about Listmgr - the first PC-Based mailing list manager for E-Mail. Find out about "The Gatekeeper: The Gate Contracts" - Write to address below. Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net "The Greatest Philosopher in the World, maybe the Greatest who ever lived." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 07:44:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05042; Thu, 18 May 95 07:44:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13698; Thu, 18 May 95 07:34:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13692; Thu, 18 May 95 07:34:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sC6Zg-00038HC; Thu, 18 May 95 07:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: daveg@imageek.york.cuny.edu (David Godinger) Subject: Alphabeticize folders? Date: 18 May 1995 04:29:29 GMT Message-Id: <3peif9$otl@news.cuny.edu> Status: O X-Status: How do I play with the order of folders in PINE? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 07:54:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05308; Thu, 18 May 95 07:54:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02573; Thu, 18 May 95 07:41:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02567; Thu, 18 May 95 07:41:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sC6iM-00038HC; Thu, 18 May 95 07:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: niteowl@infi.net (Danny Moses) Subject: 3.90 Highlighting current message Date: 14 May 1995 16:13:41 GMT Message-Id: <3p5a7l$dpm@lucy.infi.net> Status: O X-Status: In Pine 3.90, when I'm in my inbox, the current message is identified by an arrow to the left of it. In previous versions of Pine, the current message was identified by a reverse video highlight bar that covers the entire message. It was much easier to spot which message was selected as current in my opinion. I have checked .pinerc and have not seen a way to select how a current message is highlighted. One choice in the features list mentioned "showing selected in boldface" but this does not refer to highlighting the current message. I'd appreciate any help. I'm wondering if this is a bug of a feature. 8-) -- Danny in Yorktown, VA email address: niteowl@infi.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 08:05:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05656; Thu, 18 May 95 08:05:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14064; Thu, 18 May 95 07:53:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14058; Thu, 18 May 95 07:53:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sC6np-00038HC; Thu, 18 May 95 07:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Re: Missing USENET Message Bodies Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 13:08:03 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3p19g3$fnu@mars.cnct.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3p19g3$fnu@mars.cnct.com> Status: O X-Status: On 13 May 1995, tompkins wrote: > Date: 13 MAY 1995 03:36:35 GMT > From: tompkins > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: Missing USENET Message Bodies > Paul O. Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) wrote: > > : I use Pine 3.91 under Unix. The problem has occurred _only_ with > : incoming USENET newsgroup postings, never with email. Sometimes, > : seemingly at random, the entire message body is missing -- only the > : header appears. [...] > There is such a message in this newsgroup right now, but the body *is* > missing - I can't find it with TIN either! Sometimes I have hit a wrong > key and sent such a message myself. > Phil I'm sure it's not a matter of being fumble-fingered at the keyboard. Once I posted a short message to a newsgroup. When I went to view my own message later, the body way missing. However, not long after that, another person replied to my post, quoting the entire message body, so I know that it got through over the net to at least someone. I do not say that the problem is necessarily in Pine. I was just wondering whether any other Pine users had experienced a similar problem in order to be able to start tracking down the source of the problem. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 08:39:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07141; Thu, 18 May 95 08:39:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03419; Thu, 18 May 95 08:27:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03412; Thu, 18 May 95 08:27:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sC7Qy-00038IC; Thu, 18 May 95 08:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access1.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Re: How to get Receipt? Date: 14 May 1995 17:44:29 GMT Message-Id: <3p5fht$a44@news3.digex.net> References: <199504080757.AAA00800@usr3.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: R. Stewart Ellis (ellis@nova.gmi.edu) wrote: : Mike Jelineo writes: : >Hi All-- : > I would like to know about having a Return Receipt Generated when the : >person reads the message so that I will know if they had or not. : >Sometimes I don't get replys from people for a really long time and I am : >curious if there was a way to get a Return Receipt once someone reads the : >message. : It is really none of your business when and whether they read your : messages. Why? If you don't like it, then don't have your system do that. Do you refuse mail with a delivery notification (signature card) on it? : You only have the right (perhaps) to know that the package was : successfully delivered. Why do you feel that someone may not do this? : This demand, which is frequently made, is odious. Please explain your reasoning. -- Ask me about Listmgr - the first PC-Based mailing list manager for E-Mail. Find out about "The Gatekeeper: The Gate Contracts" - Write to address below. Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net "The Greatest Philosopher in the World, maybe the Greatest who ever lived." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 08:45:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07360; Thu, 18 May 95 08:45:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14903; Thu, 18 May 95 08:28:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sangam.ncst.ernet.in by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14897; Thu, 18 May 95 08:28:19 -0700 Received: from soochak.ncst.ernet.in (soochak.ncst.ernet.in [144.16.11.100]) by sangam.ncst.ernet.in (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA13890 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 20:58:34 +0530 Received: from iisc.ernet.in (iisc.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.64.3]) by soochak.ncst.ernet.in (8.6.8.1/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA03136 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 20:58:08 +0530 Received: from sasi.ernet.in by iisc.ernet.in (ERNET-IISc/SMI-4.1) id AA08420; Thu, 18 May 95 21:02:48+0530 Received: from (sashp151) by sasi.ernet.in (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03509; Thu, 18 May 95 19:16:28+050 From: tupuri@sasi.ernet.in (Murali S. Tupuri) Received: by (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA01632 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 18 May 1995 19:07:29 +0500 Message-Id: <9505181407.AA01632@> Subject: Pine_Info To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Thu, 18 May 95 19:07:28 IST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Status: O X-Status: Hello! This is Murali from India. Plese send me Pine_Info.? regards, Murali. -- --------------------------------------------- ////// ( @ @ ) \ o / __ __ _ _ | \/ |_ _ _ __ __ _| (_) | |\/| | | | | '__/ _` | | | | | | | |_| | | | (_| | | | |_| |_|\__,_|_| \__,_|_|_| ----------------------------------------------- SM Tupuri, Silicon Automation Systems, Ph : 5281229,5281461,5280289. Mail : tupuri@sasi.ernet.in ----------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 08:56:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07911; Thu, 18 May 95 08:56:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15213; Thu, 18 May 95 08:41:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15207; Thu, 18 May 95 08:41:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sC7fh-00038HC; Thu, 18 May 95 08:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dweinr1@gl.umbc.edu (David Weinrich) Subject: Re: Q: Pine 3.91 for Mac..does it exist? Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 13:53:27 -0400 Message-Id: References: <1995May8.174149.12958@ludens> Status: O X-Status: In article <1995May8.174149.12958@ludens>, lovas@ludens.elte.hu (Gyorgy A. Lovas) wrote: >Dear Netters, > >I wander if Pine 3.91 has been ported to Mac platform at all. If so, I'd like >to know if it is available for download and from which archive. >Sorry if it is a FAQ, but I was unable to find any pointer. > >Any help or pointer is greatly appreciated. >Thanks in advance > George > >PS: This is my second trial; I hope this time someone responds While I haven't been able to find a PINE version for the MAC, I have been able to find two other programs that handle IMAP fairly good: 1)MailDrop http://ackmo.baylor.edu/files/Mail_Drop/info.html Handles the mac interface really good, and handles MIME pretty consistently but still can't handle remote mailboxes other than your INBOX (looks like it is going to be added in the future. 2)Mailstrom ftp://jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu/pub/apple-mac_software/Internet/EMail/Mailstrom/ Crappy interface and doesn't do MIME yet (I think version 2.0 will) but handles remote mailboxes other than your INBOX fairly well. All in all, I recommend MailDrop. Keep in mind that neither of these programs handles usenet news. for that try NewsWatcher: ftp://ftp.acns.nwu.edu/pub/newswatcher/ Good Luck! ___________________________________________________________ David Weinrich # Page (410) 995-7695 dweinr1@gl.umbc.edu # Howard County Station 9 UMBC # "squirrels of the world unite!!!" ___________________________________________________________ University of Maryland Baltimore County EHS ___________________________________________________________ "All opinions expressed in the message are mine and do not necessarily reflect those of UMBC, Howard County DFRS, or any other Human with half a brain." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 09:09:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08954; Thu, 18 May 95 09:09:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03843; Thu, 18 May 95 08:49:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03837; Thu, 18 May 95 08:49:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sC7h9-00038IC; Thu, 18 May 95 08:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access1.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Re: How to Cancel USENET posts Date: 14 May 1995 17:50:03 GMT Message-Id: <3p5fsb$a44@news3.digex.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Harris Internet Service Company (martyn@indirect.com) wrote: : What is the proper procedure for cancelling a newsgroup post? Get the original post number (the "references") and be sure to have a "Control:" header in the list of optional headers, or use the command in pine to allow you to add it. Use the following headers: Control: cancel Subject: cmsg cancel And have a non-empty text; the signature should be sufficient -- Ask me about Listmgr - the first PC-Based mailing list manager for E-Mail. Find out about "The Gatekeeper: The Gate Contracts" - Write to address below. Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net "The Greatest Philosopher in the World, maybe the Greatest who ever lived." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 09:37:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10014; Thu, 18 May 95 09:37:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16153; Thu, 18 May 95 09:19:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16147; Thu, 18 May 95 09:19:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sC8A2-00038HC; Thu, 18 May 95 09:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access1.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Re: Mailbox format for /usr/spool/mail/???????? Date: 14 May 1995 17:57:15 GMT Message-Id: <3p5g9r$a44@news3.digex.net> References: <3n33qa$jf0@news3.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: Vladimir Solnicky (vs@utia.cas.cz) wrote: : On 19 Apr 1995, Paul Robinson wrote: : > I like the Pine mailer but I must use something akin to UUCP in order to= : I think Pegasus mail can do what you want (if you realy want to read mail : off-line using uucp---on my friend's company use this combination). I said 'akin to uucp'. UUCP isn't available; I have to upload an SMTP block of text. : If you only want to use PC and have a direct connection to the : Internet, IMAP and some version of PC-PINE would be probably much : better. If I had a direct connection, I could use PC-Pine. -- Ask me about Listmgr - the first PC-Based mailing list manager for E-Mail. Find out about "The Gatekeeper: The Gate Contracts" - Write to address below. Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net "The Greatest Philosopher in the World, maybe the Greatest who ever lived." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 09:49:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10481; Thu, 18 May 95 09:49:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04905; Thu, 18 May 95 09:37:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04898; Thu, 18 May 95 09:36:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sC8W3-00038IC; Thu, 18 May 95 09:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Wayne Wilson Subject: PC-Pine, NT and Netware Date: 17 May 1995 14:08:15 GMT Message-Id: <3pd00f$fik@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I have been using a Netware mounted volume for some time to hold the Pine software. This has allowed me to run Pine from anywhere on the net. Recently I switched to NT and have discovered that I can't update my address book anymore. When working with other software that read's and writes the Netware volume I have no problems, just with Pine. I moved the stuff locally so that I could update my address books and that works, of course. On another topic, I have noticed that PC-Pine for Windows fails a little more frequently under NT than WIN3.1. The error message I get is always something about magic failing! I always knew my magic was weak. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 10:09:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11247; Thu, 18 May 95 10:09:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16780; Thu, 18 May 95 09:49:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16774; Thu, 18 May 95 09:49:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sC8gv-00038DC; Thu, 18 May 95 09:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: david@services.more.net (David Drum) Subject: Re: restricted pico Date: 18 May 1995 16:24:43 GMT Message-Id: <3pfscb$fv2@news.missouri.edu> References: <3p583g$ob5@news.rrz.uni-koeln.de> Status: O X-Status: >>>>> "Alina" == Alina Bartsch writes: In article <3p583g$ob5@news.rrz.uni-koeln.de> a2246341@athena.rrz.uni-koeln.de (Alina Bartsch) writes: Alina> I will use the eitor pico in a application. Alina> I will that the user cannot change the filename (is an parameter) Alina> an not use the file browser. Alina> Could I define this in the environment or as parameters? Alina> :-? I have written a patch that does this. You have to call pico with a new "-r" parameter. Here it is: diff -crw pine3.91/pico/file.c spine3.91/pico/file.c *** pine3.91/pico/file.c Tue Oct 11 18:47:07 1994 --- spine3.91/pico/file.c Mon Apr 3 17:26:25 1995 *************** *** 332,343 **** else fname[0] = '\0'; menu_write[0].name = "^T"; menu_write[0].label = "To Files"; menu_write[1].name = NULL; for(;;){ ! s = mlreplyd("File Name to write : ", fname, NFILEN, ! QDEFLT|QFFILE, menu_write); fixpath(fname, NFILEN); /* fixup ~ in file name */ --- 337,353 ---- else fname[0] = '\0'; + /*APG*/ if (gmode&MDSCUR) + /*APG*/ menu_write[0].name = NULL; + /*APG*/ else { menu_write[0].name = "^T"; menu_write[0].label = "To Files"; menu_write[1].name = NULL; + /*APG*/ } /* else */ for(;;){ ! /*APG*/ if (!(gmode&MDSCUR)) ! s = mlreplyd("File Name to write : ", fname, NFILEN, QDEFLT|QFFILE, menu_write); ! /*APG*/ else s = TRUE; fixpath(fname, NFILEN); /* fixup ~ in file name */ *************** *** 397,402 **** --- 407,417 ---- if(strcmp(fname, curbp->b_fname) == 0) break; + /*APG*/ + /*APG*/ if((gmode&MDSCUR) && homeless (fname)) { + /*APG*/ emlwrite("Can't write file outside home directory in secure mode",NULL); + /*APG*/ return(s); + /*APG*/ }; if((s=fexist(fname, "w", &l)) == FIOSUC){ /* exists. overwrite? */ diff -crw pine3.91/pico/main.c spine3.91/pico/main.c *** pine3.91/pico/main.c Mon Sep 12 13:32:15 1994 --- spine3.91/pico/main.c Wed Apr 5 09:24:39 1995 *************** *** 138,143 **** --- 138,146 ---- case 'w': /* -w turn off word wrap */ gmode ^= MDWRAP; break; + /*APG*/ case 'r': /* -r keep users from editing filename or getting out of work directory */ + /*APG*/ gmode ^= MDSCUR; + /*APG*/ break; #if defined(DOS) case 'c': /* -c[nr][fb] colors */ if(carg + 1 < argc){ -- "That man has a rare gift for obfuscation." -- ST:DS9 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 10:42:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12522; Thu, 18 May 95 10:42:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05913; Thu, 18 May 95 10:27:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05906; Thu, 18 May 95 10:27:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sC9Gm-00038HC; Thu, 18 May 95 10:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: filtering, once and for all Date: 15 May 1995 19:31:14 GMT Message-Id: <3p8a62$1jo5@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com> <3ost0s$dad@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <3ot84l$l69@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3p7vke$k00@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <3p7vke$k00@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, Wayne Wilson wrote: >>One last time, and listen VERY CAREFULLY: mail-filtering agents and >>mail-user agents are TOTALLY SEPARATE. > >And I assume, Mail servers are totally separate as well. So that we have a >three component architecture: MTA's, MFA's and MUA's. This is a new slant >on mail architecture, I am uncertain where the MFA's are in the process. If >I understand things they reside with the server. Hmmm...I don't think that MFAs are a third prong, because unlike MTAs and MUAs, MFAs are optional. Whether MFAs reside on the server depends on whether you want the filtering to happen immediately upon receipt of mail, or at any time up to the point when you start your MUA. If immediate filtering is a requirement, then yes, the functions must reside on the server. On the other hand, if you could live with doing the filtering when you log in, then you could use procmail (if you have /usr/spool/mail access) or the program that I'm writing to filter your mail at that time. Then it wouldn't matter whether it lived on the server side or the client side. > Now if only I had control over the server side of mail, >I might be able to insert something between Pine and my IMAP connection. >I and a rapidly growing number of folks don't have any say nor >ability to implement anything on the server side, we simply subscribe to >an internet service provider who offers either an IMAP or POP service. Then you'll have to get your service provider to establish some route for you to use MFAs. This thread is reminiscent of how people a few years ago who used ftp-mail gateways, usenet-mail gateways, web-mail gateways, etc., wanted to know why a X-mail gateway didn't exist, where X could be telnet, MUD, IRC, or some other interactive service. If you don't like the amount of access your service provider gives you, then you should agitate for more access, or find another service provider. These days, Unix shell accounts are so cheap that if you want it, you can probably get it. > You must live in an environment where you have control of the server side? No. You just need to be in an environment where your provider has yielded you enough control of your mail (via .forward files and MFAs) where you can do it yourself. If they haven't, then you can switch to any mail user agent, but your level of access won't get any better. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 10:42:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12545; Thu, 18 May 95 10:42:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17697; Thu, 18 May 95 10:27:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17691; Thu, 18 May 95 10:27:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sC9JM-00038KC; Thu, 18 May 95 10:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access5.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Re: how to define username ??? Date: 15 May 1995 19:43:30 GMT Message-Id: <3p8at2$n0c@news3.digex.net> References: Status: O X-Status: ecramer (root@luna.nl) wrote: : I recently started using pine on Linux 1.2.1. Altough I like it, : there is one thing I can't figure out. : How to change the left-hand side from my header. : It's possible to set another domainname, so why isn't it possible : to set another username. : The only solution I could find is to add a user with the desired : username to my system and start pine beeing that user. : Can anybody help me :-( See if you can add 'From: ecramer@luna.nl' as one of the headers, in either of the parameters of default-composer-hdrs or customized-hdrs If you can't, then you have to recompile the source to Pine: 1. add the following #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM in file ./pine/osdep/os-xxx.h where xxx is the 3-letter code for your machine 2. make pine 3. bring it up, and add the 'From: ecramer@luna.nl' field to the two items -- Ask me about Listmgr - the first PC-Based mailing list manager for E-Mail. Find out about "The Gatekeeper: The Gate Contracts" - Write to address below. Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net "The Greatest Philosopher in the World, maybe the Greatest who ever lived." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 11:30:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14307; Thu, 18 May 95 11:30:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06922; Thu, 18 May 95 11:12:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06916; Thu, 18 May 95 11:12:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCA1T-00038HC; Thu, 18 May 95 11:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) Subject: cmsg cancel <3pev27$per@news.primenet.com> Control: cancel <3pev27$per@news.primenet.com> Date: 18 May 1995 08:05:13 GMT Message-Id: <3pev3p$per@news.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 11:44:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14869; Thu, 18 May 95 11:44:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07147; Thu, 18 May 95 11:22:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07138; Thu, 18 May 95 11:22:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCA8K-00038IC; Thu, 18 May 95 11:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access5.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Re: Pine and X400 Date: 15 May 1995 19:52:34 GMT Message-Id: <3p8be2$n0c@news3.digex.net> References: <3nls6m$qiu@sclinux.blm.gov> Status: O X-Status: David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : Pine is an Internet mailer, not an X.400 mailer, but I have seen people : use something like "x400_address@gateway.domain"... : On 26 Apr 1995, Mike Dorrington wrote: : > Can Pine 3.91 handle X400 addressing? If you can either create a header the X.400 gateway will take, or specify the address, e.g. "S=dorrington/O=ABC_CO@ADMD-GATEWAY.COM" Where "ADMD-GATEWAY" is the name of the X.400 service that takes the message, S= is the last name O= is the company name, or whatever. -- Ask me about Listmgr - the first PC-Based mailing list manager for E-Mail. Find out about "The Gatekeeper: The Gate Contracts" - Write to address below. Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net "The Greatest Philosopher in the World, maybe the Greatest who ever lived." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 11:44:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14906; Thu, 18 May 95 11:44:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19016; Thu, 18 May 95 11:22:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19010; Thu, 18 May 95 11:22:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCA8G-00038HC; Thu, 18 May 95 11:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Auto-bounce in Pine? Date: 15 May 1995 19:45:56 GMT Message-Id: <3p8b1k$17r5@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <1995Apr14.152122.22179@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> <3p8757$n0c@news3.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: In article <3p8757$n0c@news3.digex.net>, Paul Robinson wrote: >I've tried using Procmail or .forward; I lose messages. Is there a >better place to find out how to use it than the MAN command; I can't seem >to get it to work. Are you losing mail consistently, or sporadically? If consistently, then yes, you're probably not using the program quite right; is there something specific that 'man procmail' isn't giving you that you need? If you're losing mail sporadically, then you may have a file locking problem, a network problem, or something else. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 11:45:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14932; Thu, 18 May 95 11:45:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19008; Thu, 18 May 95 11:22:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19002; Thu, 18 May 95 11:22:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCA89-00038DC; Thu, 18 May 95 11:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access5.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Re: Pine on stand-alone PC Date: 15 May 1995 19:57:44 GMT Message-Id: <3p8bno$n0c@news3.digex.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Andrew Aitkens (al384@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote: : Pardon if this is a dumb question, but I hope someone can help me! : I just ftp'd Pine and it seems to be for network users only. Is this the : case? I'm trying to get it to work on my PC at home, so I can use it with : my commercial provider, but I can't seem to get the pctcp.ini information : that I need, and the docs lead to me to believe that I'm expected to be on : a network. (I'm not even really sure what pctcp means!) The Unix version wasn't ported to DOS the same way, so it won't work without a network. I'm going to see if I can implement the Unix version in the minimal changes for PCs without network cards, probably Turbo C. -- Ask me about Listmgr - the first PC-Based mailing list manager for E-Mail. Find out about "The Gatekeeper: The Gate Contracts" - Write to address below. Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net "The Greatest Philosopher in the World, maybe the Greatest who ever lived." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 11:47:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15017; Thu, 18 May 95 11:47:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07136; Thu, 18 May 95 11:22:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07128; Thu, 18 May 95 11:22:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCA8E-00038FC; Thu, 18 May 95 11:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access5.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Re: Email Change Date: 15 May 1995 20:02:58 GMT Message-Id: <3p8c1i$n0c@news3.digex.net> References: <1995May1.082328.426@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw> Status: O X-Status: khanafer@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw wrote: : Hi There... : I've got a mail fro USA but the Email is change: : the Email must be: : user@host.edu : but it is: : user@host.kuniv.edu.kw : which is like me...How Come... : Any One Can Help Me... : Please Email Me... : Nasseb Change the configuration setup for Pine with the S C commands. Go to the line that reads user-domain = Issue the C command to change it, and change it to host.edu Press return, go to the line that reads use-only-domain-name = And set this to Yes. -- Ask me about Listmgr - the first PC-Based mailing list manager for E-Mail. Find out about "The Gatekeeper: The Gate Contracts" - Write to address below. Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net "The Greatest Philosopher in the World, maybe the Greatest who ever lived." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 11:52:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15327; Thu, 18 May 95 11:52:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19024; Thu, 18 May 95 11:22:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19018; Thu, 18 May 95 11:22:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCA8M-00038KC; Thu, 18 May 95 11:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access5.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Re: Change return address ("From:") in Pine Date: 15 May 1995 20:28:30 GMT Message-Id: <3p8dhe$n0c@news3.digex.net> References: <3oiqfd$n6b@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3okp4j$kd7@news.panix.com> Status: O X-Status: Mark Swearingen (mark@ephesus.com) wrote: : harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) writes: : I understand your concern re: deceptive e-mail and the problems it presents you : as a system administrator. It was certainly not my intent to encourage : forgery. However, for people who have more than one address at which they can : receive e-mail, it would be convenient to set the return address at one : location to the other address, so that all return mail came to one location. : Thus, there is a "legitimate" use for such a feature. : To get back to my original question, it would appear from your response that : Pine does not have a configuration option for setting the username on the : return address. Thank you for that information. You can, you just have to recompile the source to allow the From: and Sender: headers to change. Default is to not allow those to be changed. Then you have to add them to the set of optional headers. -- Ask me about Listmgr - the first PC-Based mailing list manager for E-Mail. Find out about "The Gatekeeper: The Gate Contracts" - Write to address below. Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net "The Greatest Philosopher in the World, maybe the Greatest who ever lived." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 12:52:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09437; Thu, 18 May 95 12:52:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08988; Thu, 18 May 95 12:28:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from centuri.ci.umoncton.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08976; Thu, 18 May 95 12:28:16 -0700 Received: from clement.info.umoncton.ca by centuri.ci.umoncton.ca with SMTP (1.37.109.4/15.6) id AA11664; Thu, 18 May 95 16:18:03 -0300 Received: by clement.info.umoncton.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13186; Thu, 18 May 95 16:30:29 ADT Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 16:28:33 -0300 (ADT) From: Marco Ruest Subject: Subcribe to pine To: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: subscribe pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 13:17:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16022; Thu, 18 May 95 13:17:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09671; Thu, 18 May 95 12:52:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09665; Thu, 18 May 95 12:52:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCBWE-00038DC; Thu, 18 May 95 12:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FWDJ31A@prodigy.com (Joseph Pedotto) Subject: Inserting mail on a floppy ? Date: 18 May 1995 13:54:56 GMT Message-Id: <3pfjjg$1bou@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> Status: O X-Status: I'm looking for different ways of getting mail received to a floppy disk. After saving a message, the only way I know how to get mail to a floppy is to go through the c: prompt via ftp. All comments and suggestions would be most helpful. Thank you. - JOSEPH PEDOTTO FWDJ31A@prodigy.com ** Patience is a virtue ** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 14:08:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18257; Thu, 18 May 95 14:08:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24234; Thu, 18 May 95 13:49:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24228; Thu, 18 May 95 13:49:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCCNQ-00038RC; Thu, 18 May 95 13:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hoang1@litwin.com (Ted Hoang) Subject: Can pine read POP mail Message-Id: Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 18:40:56 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi, Could someone tell me: Can pine read POP mail? If it can, please tell me how to do it. Thanks in advance, Ted -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ted Hoang Email:Ted.Hoang@litwin.com Tel: (713) 267-7122 Litwin Process Automation Fax: (713) 267-7908 1250 W. Sam Houston Pkwy S. Houston, TX 77042 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 15:38:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22613; Thu, 18 May 95 15:38:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13302; Thu, 18 May 95 15:18:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13296; Thu, 18 May 95 15:18:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCDnG-00038DC; Thu, 18 May 95 15:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Turning off Prompt in Unix Pine Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 10:41:14 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On the whole I am satisfied with Pine (Unix, 3.91). However, I wish I could customize it in one more way. (I cannot just take the source code and tear it apart and put it back together any old way.) Maybe I am overlooking something in the documentation, but in case I'm not, I will be grateful if anyone has an answer for this. So far as I know, Pine was written generally with the unsophisticated or "naive" computer user in mind, which is fine, especially since Pine allows the more experienced user to enable additional features. In general, I would call myself a more experienced user (of computers in general). Pine usually prompts me whenever I am about to take some sort of "action," such as sending mail, posting to a newsgroup, and so on. I would like to be able to turn these prompts off, if possible. I (usually) know what I'm doing, and if I fummble finger it, then that's my fault, not Pine's. My personal preference is to run without so much hand holding. Does anyone know of a way to turn some of these prompts off? Thanks. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 17:12:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27053; Thu, 18 May 95 17:12:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28812; Thu, 18 May 95 17:03:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28806; Thu, 18 May 95 17:03:16 -0700 Received: from trex (trex.kwantlen.bc.ca) by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA23560; Thu, 18 May 1995 17:02:53 -0700 Received: by trex (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA07370; Thu, 18 May 1995 17:02:54 +0800 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 17:02:54 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dumaresq X-Sender: david@trex To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: PC-Pine and SLIP Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 680 Status: O X-Status: I'm having trouble getting PC-Pine to work with Trumpet winsock over a SLIP line. It complains that it is waiting for the IMAP server to respond and eventually times out. Has anyone had any luck with this? Thanks for any light, David. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 17:22:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27487; Thu, 18 May 95 17:22:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29256; Thu, 18 May 95 17:13:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29250; Thu, 18 May 95 17:13:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCFaa-00038DC; Thu, 18 May 95 17:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Spierings Subject: VAX/VMS mail programs Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 13:45:56 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: We are looking for a mail program such as pine for VAX/VMS servers. Where can we find them? Eric Brotoisin oeden est'apoometon. Pseudei gar kai pinoia ten gnoomen. For mortals there is nothing they should swear not to do. A later understanding makes an earlier opinion invalid ------------------------------ Sophokles, Antigone From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 18:58:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00682; Thu, 18 May 95 18:58:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17240; Thu, 18 May 95 18:49:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17227; Thu, 18 May 95 18:49:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCH6P-00038DC; Thu, 18 May 95 18:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: datkins@spam.unm.edu (Drexel Atkinson CIRT) Subject: PGP in Pine? Date: 15 May 1995 22:46:36 GMT Message-Id: <3p8lkc$irl@lynx.unm.edu> Status: O X-Status: Are there any utilities that incorporate pgp into pine or allow for its use? drex --------------- datkins@unm.edu "Into the Backing" CIRT-ACS University of New Mexico ---------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 19:40:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01698; Thu, 18 May 95 19:40:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17630; Thu, 18 May 95 19:24:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from racsys.rt.rain.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17624; Thu, 18 May 95 19:24:57 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 May 95 19:24:57 -0700 Message-Id: <9505190224.AA17624@mx2.cac.washington.edu> From: george@racsys.rt.rain.com To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: unsubscribe Content-Length: 22 Content-Type: text Status: O X-Status: UNSUBSCRIBE pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 20:14:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02258; Thu, 18 May 95 20:14:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01910; Thu, 18 May 95 20:04:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01904; Thu, 18 May 95 20:04:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCIHc-00038DC; Thu, 18 May 95 19:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tbone@MCS.COM (T-Bone Prone) Subject: directing incoming mail Date: 17 May 1995 18:05:14 -0500 Message-Id: <3pdvfa$62d@Mercury.mcs.com> Status: O X-Status: To a folder, not the inbox---how do you do it? is it possible to password protect specific folders? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 20:48:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03090; Thu, 18 May 95 20:48:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18395; Thu, 18 May 95 20:38:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18389; Thu, 18 May 95 20:38:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCIna-00038FC; Thu, 18 May 95 20:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: VAX/VMS mail programs Message-Id: <173A213B2DS86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 21:24:41 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article Eric Spierings writes: >We are looking for a mail program such as pine for VAX/VMS servers. Servers? Do you want an IMAPD daemon? Or do you really want PINE? Either way, you could start at http://d1.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7Eflavell/vms-pine.html for pointers (n.b this is just a pointer to the real packages, I didn't do much more than just install the stuff. And as for the IMAPD, I did not install that, I only pointed to the info about it). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 20:56:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03272; Thu, 18 May 95 20:56:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02463; Thu, 18 May 95 20:43:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02457; Thu, 18 May 95 20:43:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCIuM-00038DC; Thu, 18 May 95 20:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mkhan@emunix.emich.edu (Mohammad Aslam Khan) Subject: Re: Switching to emacs Date: 18 May 1995 22:44:27 GMT Message-Id: <3pgikb$7nq@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <97dc-0105951148430001@student_97dc.williams.edu> Status: O X-Status: DeWitt Clinton (97dc@williams.edu) wrote: : Hi all, : I was hoping switch to emacs as the default editor for pine on SunOS 4.3. : Here is the line from my .pinerc : editor=/usr/local/bin/emacs : Obviously, it doesn't work or I wouldn't be posting here. When I compose : it drops me right into pico. Any ideas? I did it the following way and it's working for me but I m using vi though. Following is the way I did it. 1) In set up of configuration there is a feature list. I set the enable-alternate-editor-implicitly option on. 2) There is an option to set the name of editor. It is at third position from very bottom of configuration set up. I just typed vi over there. Let's hope it will work fo r U too. Have fun in using your favourite word processor as I m having fun using vi with pine. Bye Mohammad Khan e-mail mkhan@emunix.emich.edu -DeWitt : ____________________________________________________________________ : | DeWitt Clinton \ http://wso.williams.edu/wso.html / H A V E | : | Williams College \ _WilliamsSTUDENTSOnline_ / A G R A | : | Williamstown, Ma \ Virtual Campus Information / T E F U | : | 97dc@williams.edu \ Server / L D A Y | : |____________________________________________________________________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 21:51:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05070; Thu, 18 May 95 21:51:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19239; Thu, 18 May 95 21:38:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19233; Thu, 18 May 95 21:38:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCJki-00038HC; Thu, 18 May 95 21:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stern@amath.washington.edu (L.G. "Ted" Stern) Subject: Re: restricted pico Date: 17 May 1995 23:38:56 GMT Message-Id: References: <3p583g$ob5@news.rrz.uni-koeln.de> In-Reply-To: a2246341@athena.rrz.uni-koeln.de's message of 14 May 1995 15:37:20 GMT Status: O X-Status: >>>>> "Alina" == Alina Bartsch writes: In article <3p583g$ob5@news.rrz.uni-koeln.de> a2246341@athena.rrz.uni-koeln.de (Alina Bartsch) writes: Alina> I will use the eitor pico in a application. Alina> I will that the user cannot change the filename (is an parameter) Alina> an not use the file browser. Alina> Could I define this in the environment or as parameters? Alina> :-? Questions about the "pico" editor can and probably _should_ be addressed to the "comp.mail.pine" newsgroup. PICO was developed to work within the pine mailer. Followups redirected. -- =============================================> University of Washington Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 Dept. of Applied Mathematics stern@amath.washington.edu Box 352420 http://www.amath.washington.edu/~stern/ Seattle, WA 98195-2420 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 22:10:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05542; Thu, 18 May 95 22:10:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03714; Thu, 18 May 95 21:58:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03708; Thu, 18 May 95 21:58:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCK4c-00038DC; Thu, 18 May 95 21:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: toby@cyberspace.com (Toby Reed) Subject: How do you fake mail with PINE? Date: 18 May 1995 18:02:17 -0700 Message-Id: <3pgqmp$il2@case.cyberspace.com> Status: O X-Status: How? E-MAIL please... THX. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 22:37:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06237; Thu, 18 May 95 22:37:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19792; Thu, 18 May 95 22:23:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19786; Thu, 18 May 95 22:23:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCKUI-00038IC; Thu, 18 May 95 22:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Re: News-Reader Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 11:14:32 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 15 May 1995, Ben wrote: > Date: 15 MAY 1995 07:32:04 -0700 > From: Ben > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: News-Reader > > On Mon, 15 May 1995, Michael S Hartman wrote: > > > > > Ben, try typing ctrl r. You will get a rich hdr screen with the newsgroup > > spot in the header. > > > > Mike > > > I tried that already but it appears that it isn't present in my version > of pine. > > Ben Don't bet the farm on my recollections, but I think some of the goodies for at least _posting_ to newsgroups came into Pine in version 3.90 or 3.91. V. 3.89 may not have had them. In any case, when you try the Ctrl-R as was suggested, make sure the cursor is in the header area first. (In 3.91, at least, Ctrl-R does different things in the header and the body.) Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 18 23:35:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07592; Thu, 18 May 95 23:35:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04888; Thu, 18 May 95 23:21:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04882; Thu, 18 May 95 23:21:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCLLi-00038DC; Thu, 18 May 95 23:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: amehdiza@violin.aix.calpoly.edu (Ali Mehdizadeh) Subject: Re: Spelling Date: 15 May 1995 16:04:51 GMT Message-Id: <3p7u33$4gi@isnews.csc.calpoly.edu> References: <3oofk1$imi@isnews.calpoly.edu> Status: O X-Status: Michael Agelasto (h9397584@hkusua) wrote: : This question is answered about once a month and also in FAQ but I have : been unable to figure out how to do it. Maybe you will have better luck. [sig snipped] Allright, so where is the FAQ? Thanks, amehdiza@violin.aix.calpoly.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 19 01:08:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10004; Fri, 19 May 95 01:08:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21510; Fri, 19 May 95 00:59:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21504; Fri, 19 May 95 00:59:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCMsI-00038DC; Fri, 19 May 95 00:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lmiller@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx (Larry Miller [DT]) Subject: Re: Mail forwarding in pine. Date: 13 May 1995 14:57:25 -0600 Message-Id: <3p36fl$11p@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx> References: Status: O X-Status: ESPINOZA JAIME C (e0f8et4k@tuzo.erin) wrote: > Quick question.. I just want to know the precise format > to use in the .forward file for forwarding messages to another > location. I know it is simply one line, but like most things.. make it the full email address of where you want your mail forwarded to. --Larry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 19 02:31:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11860; Fri, 19 May 95 02:31:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07472; Fri, 19 May 95 02:19:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07466; Fri, 19 May 95 02:19:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCO8U-00038DC; Fri, 19 May 95 02:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: michael@pcnet.com (Intermix Ltd.) Subject: Auto-reply "info@" files??? Date: 17 May 1995 23:19:39 -0400 Message-Id: <3peecb$ot1@pcnet1.pcnet.com> Status: O X-Status: Ok, this is my second posting after several weeks. Can anyone please direct me on how to setup simple auto-reply mail for incoming messages directed to info@domain.name.com or sample@domain.name.com? I've not found a FAQ for this newsgroup and the topic is not listed in the FAQ for the comp.unix newsgroups. The MAN HELP files on my Internet service provider's UNIX prompt is useless... appears to have been writer by insiders for insiders. Please help! Reply directly via e-mail please to: Mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 19 03:23:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13044; Fri, 19 May 95 03:23:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22905; Fri, 19 May 95 02:59:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22899; Fri, 19 May 95 02:59:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCOnL-00038DC; Fri, 19 May 95 02:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Guy BRAND Subject: Re: Pine on a Mac ?? In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 23:03:55 GMT Status: O X-Status: > Is there a version of Pine that I can run on a Mac ?? No :-( but there is a nice IMAP client for the Mac written by Carl BELL from Baylor's. Follow http://ackmo.baylor.edu. Have fun GB ___ ___ Guy BRAND - Guy.Brand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr - ==== / |\/ |\ ___________________________________________ =---==== / |/ || Web : http://wwwchimie.u-strasbg.fr/GB.html =-----==== / /| /| || or Internet : gizmo@fondation.u-strasbg.fr ==---===== /_/ |__/ |_|| ======== \_\/\__\/\_\|oins on pense, plus on parle (MONTESQUIEU). ==== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 19 06:17:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17825; Fri, 19 May 95 06:17:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10582; Fri, 19 May 95 06:04:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10576; Fri, 19 May 95 06:04:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCRfz-00038FC; Fri, 19 May 95 06:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: daveg@imageek.york.cuny.edu (David Godinger) Subject: "Reply to:" Date: 18 May 1995 15:31:44 GMT Message-Id: <3pfp90$r8r@news.cuny.edu> Status: O X-Status: How can I add "Reply to:" in the header? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 19 07:08:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18966; Fri, 19 May 95 07:08:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25574; Fri, 19 May 95 06:54:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from po2.indiana.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25566; Fri, 19 May 95 06:54:31 -0700 Received: from ezmail.ucs.indiana.edu by PO2.Indiana.EDU; id AA23006 (5.67bjsm/2.5.1jsm); Fri, 19 May 1995 08:53:25 -0500 Received: by ezmail.ucs.indiana.edu (1.38.110.45/16.2) id AA225181667; Fri, 19 May 1995 08:54:27 -0500 Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 08:54:23 -0500 (EST) From: Jeff Morris X-Sender: jbmorris@ezmail.ucs.indiana.edu To: Steve Hubert Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: View Message Screen: position indicator redraws itself In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 12 May 1995, Steve Hubert wrote: > On Thu, 11 May 1995, Jeff Morris wrote: > > Does anyone know why every 30 or 60 seconds the indicator that tells you > > how far you are in a message (73%, TOP, BOT, etc.) redraws itself? This > > is in Pine 3.91. Is it likely that the length of the message will change > > or that you will change positions in the message w/o pressing any keys? > > Will this be eliminated or optional in future releases? > > This is probably happening every time there is a check for new mail, > which by default is every 2.5 minutes. I don't see how it could be > happening every 30 or 60 seconds, unless the default time has been > changed in your sources. I think they did change the frequency of checking mail from every 2.5 minutes to every 1 minute on my system. > The reason it does this is because it's a lot > easier to just draw the percentage every time than it is to figure out > whether or not the percentage changed and/or the screen changed since the > last percentage was drawn. It hasn't been fixed for next version so far. Could you explain to me how the percentage can change when you get new mail? If I'm reading a message, and I'm 73% through it, and then new mail comes in, I'm still 73% through the message as long as I haven't pressed any keys. - Jeff From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 19 08:45:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27171; Fri, 19 May 95 08:45:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27209; Fri, 19 May 95 08:35:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27199; Fri, 19 May 95 08:35:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCU1O-00038DC; Fri, 19 May 95 08:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dwhisnant@aol.com (Dwhisnant) Subject: Re: Print-to-Ansi Date: 19 May 1995 10:28:36 -0400 Message-Id: <3pi9uk$jsi@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: Status: O X-Status: Try "[5i" to print and "[4i" to get back to your emulator. This works for me using Procomm, vt100. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 19 09:25:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29606; Fri, 19 May 95 09:25:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19402; Fri, 19 May 95 09:11:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19396; Fri, 19 May 95 09:11:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCUYw-00038DC; Fri, 19 May 95 09:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tomservo@moose.erie.net (James MacKenzie) Subject: PINE on Wyse 60 - Help! Date: 19 May 1995 11:20:40 -0400 Message-Id: <3pid08$vi1@moose.erie.net> Status: O X-Status: We are trying to get PINE to run on a wyse 60 compatible terminal here, and seem to be having troubles. The screen is filling w/garbage, or at times, freezing. I'm not sure if it is the termcap entry we are using, or what. Could someone send me their wy60 termcap entry if they are using it for PINE? I'd appreciate it. Thanks. Jim MacKenzie tomservo@erie.net jim@plantrol.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 19 09:33:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00403; Fri, 19 May 95 09:33:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28245; Fri, 19 May 95 09:20:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28239; Fri, 19 May 95 09:19:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCUgN-00038DC; Fri, 19 May 95 09:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: reichera@clark.net (A. Reichert) Subject: Re: "Reply to:" Date: 19 May 1995 12:13:38 GMT Message-Id: <3pi21i$onq@clarknet.clark.net> References: <3pfp90$r8r@news.cuny.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: In your .pinerc file, add "Reply-To: " as a custom header. - Alan David Godinger (daveg@imageek.york.cuny.edu) wrote: : How can I add "Reply to:" in the header? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 19 09:53:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01157; Fri, 19 May 95 09:53:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20267; Fri, 19 May 95 09:45:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20261; Fri, 19 May 95 09:45:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCV7e-00038DC; Fri, 19 May 95 09:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bparker@interaccess.com (Ben Parker) Subject: Reply-To: header missing in news? Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 20:06:21 GMT Message-Id: <3pg9ji$rkg@nntp.interaccess.com> Status: O X-Status: I'm using pine 3.91 (actually both PC-Pine and BSD unix Pine 3.91) I have set up a customized 'Reply-To:' header in the setup/config and when i try to do a news posting (and do Ctrl-R to show expanded headers) I can see the proper 'Reply-to' in the header. However, the 'Reply-To' field never makes it to the actual posting! Is their another item in Config I need to set or is this a 'bug' or 'feature'. When I post via the same NNTP server using any windows news reader ot Netscape I always get the reply-to header correct, so I don't think it's an nntp problem but... I rely on this especially when I post the same msg both as mail and news at one time. Usually I prefer to use a newsreader program for news work, but sometimes Pine is more useful/powerful. However, I need it to work right. Thanks for any help. ================== Ben Parker (IL) bparker@interaccess.com 71450.2735@compuserve.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 19 10:21:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02645; Fri, 19 May 95 10:21:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21006; Fri, 19 May 95 10:12:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from franklin.seas.gwu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20998; Fri, 19 May 95 10:12:14 -0700 Received: from gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (gwis2.circ.gwu.edu [128.164.127.252]) by franklin.seas.gwu.edu (v8) with ESMTP id NAA10226 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 13:12:13 -0400 Received: (from sbpmtm@localhost) by gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA24097; Fri, 19 May 1995 13:12:07 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 13:12:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Tin-Mala Subject: Re: "Reply to:" in Pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 8 May 1995, James Armstrong wrote: > This is why there is a Reply-To field. Either edit your .pinerc > file to add that to the customized-hdrs variable, or use the Setup-Config > command to add the customized header. Our pine Setup-Config menu lacks the Options option. Can I download Options from somewhere? And once I have, how do I install it? TIA. P.S. Thanks to all who responded so promptly to my previous inquiry about the Bounce command. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tin-Mala ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Technology Mgt. Phone: 202-994-8637 SBPM, The George Washington University Fax: 202-994-6382 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 19 10:41:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03426; Fri, 19 May 95 10:41:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29675; Fri, 19 May 95 10:26:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29669; Fri, 19 May 95 10:26:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCVjv-00038FC; Fri, 19 May 95 10:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: esti@festival.ed.ac.uk (E Sheinberg) Subject: Bounce Problems Message-Id: Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 16:28:18 GMT Status: O X-Status: Does someone else have similiar problems with Bouncing? I tested the "Bounce" option, by "bouncing" a mail message which I got - to myself. The original "To:" field (in the original message) was a general address, which includes the e-mail addresses of all of the Music Faculty in Edinburgh University. So, I used "Bounce" and entered my address as the "to:" parameter. I mailed it and... nothing happened. Nada. Nichts. Got no new mail. On the other hand, in the next two days (so far... :-) I have people from the Music Faculty telling me that they got my message - but why did I send it again? After all, it was a general message from the library - why should - 1) it be send again? 2) from my account? (both questions are pretty logical, I must admit.) Anyway, I asked someone to forward me a copy, with full headers. Apparently, it DOES have the "Resent-To" field with my address - but still, it went to the ORIGINAL (general) address... Does someone know - 1) Why's that? 2) Why didn't it appeared as if it was from the original poster (as I understood, the "bounce" command should do just that)? 3) Why, if it WAS posted to the general address, didn't *I* get a copy of it - as I usually do, if I'm sending mail to a general-address which I'm included in? Thanks, -- Ofer From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 19 11:13:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09267; Fri, 19 May 95 11:13:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27337; Fri, 19 May 95 11:05:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27331; Fri, 19 May 95 11:05:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCWOo-00038DC; Fri, 19 May 95 11:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: noone@nowhere (BooBoo) Subject: Problem with Pine Date: Wed, 17 May 95 02:26:41 GMT Message-Id: <3pfl5i$1789@bluering.cowan.edu.au> Status: O X-Status: Why do I get a Xon message recieved and Xoff message recieved? simple question but is the answer as simple? any help will get many appreciation...and no I meantto type that :-) answers to re018587@student.uq.edu.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 19 11:40:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10908; Fri, 19 May 95 11:40:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01196; Fri, 19 May 95 11:30:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01190; Fri, 19 May 95 11:30:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCWmu-00038DC; Fri, 19 May 95 11:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chartel@silver.sdsmt.edu (Cory Hartel) Subject: Sender and Subject fields are empty! Date: 19 May 1995 17:06:53 GMT Message-Id: <3pij7d$gnr@krypton.hpc.sdsmt.edu> Status: O X-Status: I'm using Pine 3.91 on a Unix System V 4.0 revision 1.3 machine. Blank lines in the headers of some mail messages mess up the date, sender and subject fields in pine's message Index screen. They will either be blank or have the wrong info. If I manually edit my mail spool file, erasing the blank lines in the header will fix the problem. Does anyone know a fix for this? A script file to remove blank lines in the mail headers would work great. Thanks for any input! cory hartel chartel@info.sdln.sdbor.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 19 12:33:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13592; Fri, 19 May 95 12:33:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02612; Fri, 19 May 95 12:29:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from scunix5.harvard.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02606; Fri, 19 May 95 12:29:05 -0700 Received: from fas by husc.harvard.edu with SMTP; Fri, 19 May 1995 15:29:02 -0400 Received: by fas (5.0/16.2) id AA12804; Fri, 19 May 1995 15:28:24 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 15:28:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Werner Sollors Subject: ADDRESS BOOK To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 126 Status: O X-Status: Hes one send a whole address book from one e-mail address to another one? I'd be grateful for help. sollors@husc.harvarde.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 19 14:18:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17884; Fri, 19 May 95 14:18:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04726; Fri, 19 May 95 14:13:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04720; Fri, 19 May 95 14:13:34 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27670; Fri, 19 May 95 14:13:32 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 14:13:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Jeff Morris Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: View Message Screen: position indicator redraws itself In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > > The reason it does this is because it's a lot > > easier to just draw the percentage every time than it is to figure out > > whether or not the percentage changed and/or the screen changed since the > > last percentage was drawn. It hasn't been fixed for next version so far. > Could you explain to me how the percentage can change when you get new > mail? If I'm reading a message, and I'm 73% through it, and then new > mail comes in, I'm still 73% through the message as long as I haven't > pressed any keys. > > - Jeff Just getting new mail won't cause it to change, but there are lots of commands you could have done that would. The point is that it is easier to just draw the percentage every time through the command loop than it is to try to figure out whether or not you might have done something that might have changed it. The new mail check is just something that potentially happens when you go through the command loop. Any other command may have also happened. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 19 15:03:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19918; Fri, 19 May 95 15:03:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18277; Fri, 19 May 95 14:57:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18271; Fri, 19 May 95 14:56:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCZvk-00038IC; Fri, 19 May 95 14:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mitchell@starbase.neosoft.com (Mitchell Urguhart) Subject: Help, I am brain dead! Date: 19 May 1995 15:53:12 GMT Message-Id: <3piet8$rhs@uuneo.neosoft.com> Status: O X-Status: Man, this is embarrassing, I need help uuencoding some zip files to email to a buddy in Dallas, can someone help me get going ? Best Regards, and thanks in advance Mitchell Urquhart mitchell@neosoft.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 19 15:27:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20743; Fri, 19 May 95 15:27:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06042; Fri, 19 May 95 15:22:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06034; Fri, 19 May 95 15:22:19 -0700 Received: from trex (trex.kwantlen.bc.ca) by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA04849; Fri, 19 May 1995 15:21:59 -0700 Received: by trex (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA26364; Fri, 19 May 1995 15:21:58 +0800 Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 15:21:58 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dumaresq X-Sender: david@trex To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Trumpet Winsock and Pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 785 Status: O X-Status: My appologies, this is probably more Trumpet related than Pine: Has anyone experienced working in Pine over a Trumpet winsock SLIP connection for about 15 to 20 minutes and then having the session stop responding? Appreciate any help, or if you can recommend the trumpet mailing list address I can take this thread there... Thanks, David. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 19 15:37:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21042; Fri, 19 May 95 15:37:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06211; Fri, 19 May 95 15:31:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06205; Fri, 19 May 95 15:31:49 -0700 Received: from trex (trex.kwantlen.bc.ca) by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA04882; Fri, 19 May 1995 15:31:29 -0700 Received: by trex (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA26816; Fri, 19 May 1995 15:31:29 +0800 Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 15:31:28 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dumaresq X-Sender: david@trex To: Mitchell Urguhart Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help, I am brain dead! In-Reply-To: <3piet8$rhs@uuneo.neosoft.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 967 Status: O X-Status: To uuencode/uudecode a binary file you must provide two parameters: 1) the input file and 2) a file tag; this is used by uudecode to name the output file. Output is normal sent to stdout so you can redirect it to an output file. The examples below use dmh as the output file. An example of uuencode and uudecode follows: uuencode: uuencode coyote.doc coyote.xxx > dmh uudecode: uudecode dmh To confirm the file was successfully decoded, perform a diff: diff coyote.xxx coyote.doc Hope this helps, David. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 19 15:39:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21212; Fri, 19 May 95 15:39:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06195; Fri, 19 May 95 15:30:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06189; Fri, 19 May 95 15:30:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCaUp-00038IC; Fri, 19 May 95 15:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gjrsoft@cais3.cais.com (Gene J. Raymond) Subject: Re: "Reply to:" in Pine Date: 19 May 1995 21:29:25 GMT Message-Id: <3pj2jl$sgi@news.cais.com> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Tin-Mala wrote: >Our pine Setup-Config menu lacks the Options option. Can I download >Options from somewhere? And once I have, how do I install it? TIA. If you are using an older version of pine (e.g., 3.89), there is no Options option. However, most of the configurable items that you can do from the Options option in, say, version 3.91, you can do by manually editing the .pinerc file if I'm not mistaken. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* Gene J. Raymond gjrsoft@cais.com (primary) GJRSoft@aol.com GJR Software Products PO Box 3416 Se habla espanol. Merrifield, VA 22116-3416 On parle francais. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* Gene J. Raymond gjrsoft@cais.com (primary) GJRSoft@aol.com GJR Software Products PO Box 3416 Se habla espanol. Merrifield, VA 22116-3416 On parle francais. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 19 18:22:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28407; Fri, 19 May 95 18:22:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22489; Fri, 19 May 95 18:16:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22483; Fri, 19 May 95 18:16:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCd3l-00038DC; Fri, 19 May 95 18:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Mullen Subject: Re: Pine System with Procomm Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 11:28:34 +0000 Message-Id: References: <950413000209_81485213@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <950413000209_81485213@aol.com> Status: O X-Status: If the only problem with procomm and pine is that you can't read the high-lighted text, you should have fixed it when you changed either the background or foreground colors for highlighted text. )) ~0 Telemark Michael Mullen (( /__. the day e-mail: trout@az.com )) (\ away! (( ___/_/__,_, * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 19 21:17:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01809; Fri, 19 May 95 21:17:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11087; Fri, 19 May 95 21:12:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11081; Fri, 19 May 95 21:12:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCfmo-00038DC; Fri, 19 May 95 21:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jkeene@unlinfo.unl.edu (Jon Keene) Subject: ANSI escape codes for Pine? Date: 18 May 1995 19:31:06 GMT Message-Id: <3pg79q$d9j@crcnis3.unl.edu> Status: O X-Status: I've received some messages in my Pine account that incorporate bold (nice) and flashing (nasty) text. When I look at the messages using vi I see what looks like ANSI escape codes surrounding the altered text, but I've been unable to duplicate it. Can anyone clue me in? Do I need any special entries in my .pinerc file? Thanks a lot, Jon -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 19 21:43:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02293; Fri, 19 May 95 21:43:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25097; Fri, 19 May 95 21:38:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25091; Fri, 19 May 95 21:38:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCgBb-00038FC; Fri, 19 May 95 21:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gw488@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bhyrava M. Prasad) Subject: HOW to setup imapd? Date: 18 May 1995 21:37:20 GMT Message-Id: <3pgemg$chg@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi , I have an "impad" daemon for my Unixware 2.0 machine which I downloaded from Novell's ftp site. Unfortunately, I could not find any instructions to set it up. Could anyone send me the /etc/services and any other files which have to be made to run this daemon? Do I need to make any changes to inetd.conf? I also would liketo know if I can have both a POP daemon and an IMAP daemon running on the same machine concurrently. Please reply by email to prasad_bhyrava.amadeus@aac.com Thanks and bye Bhyrava Prasad -- Bhyrava M. Prasad 11013 Becontree Lake Drive , #206 Reston , Va 22090 703-437-0417 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 19 22:44:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03626; Fri, 19 May 95 22:44:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11979; Fri, 19 May 95 22:39:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11973; Fri, 19 May 95 22:39:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCh9K-00038FC; Fri, 19 May 95 22:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: Sig. on top of Reply notes Date: 19 May 1995 15:00:32 -0500 Message-Id: <3pitd0$58n@woof.cs.utexas.edu> References: <3piffh$ro5@news.cuny.edu> Status: O X-Status: [ daveg@imageek.york.cuny.edu (David Godinger) wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] -> When I use the REPLY function, my signature appears *on top* of the -> quoted text. I find this annoying, and always waste time moving it to -> the bottom. -> -> If it's a problem in my configuration file, could I please have the exact -> syntax? Go to the Main Menu by typing "M", choose Setup by typing "S" choose Config by typing "C" bring the cursor down to the following line [] signature-at-bottom and type "X" an X will appear in between the "[]" so it'll look like [X] signature-at-bottom hit "E" to exit Config and that's it. Good Luck Ananda -- Ananda M. Kar |(H)458-9754 | URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/ananda/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 20 00:33:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05543; Sat, 20 May 95 00:33:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12924; Sat, 20 May 95 00:27:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12918; Sat, 20 May 95 00:27:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCiu7-00038MC; Sat, 20 May 95 00:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schwarz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Christian Schwarz) Subject: How can I get a "successful delivered" mail after sending? Date: 19 May 1995 08:45:11 GMT Message-Id: <3phlqn$mfn@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Status: O X-Status: Hi! Sometimes, I want to get sure that an email message was delivered to the target host successfully. I've read about a special feature in some mail systems, where you get a short email back, after your mail has reached the target host. Can I do this with pine? Thanks in advance, Chris -- Christian Schwarz schwarz@monet.m.isar.de, schwarz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 20 02:23:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08228; Sat, 20 May 95 02:23:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28608; Sat, 20 May 95 02:17:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28602; Sat, 20 May 95 02:17:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCkcq-00038HC; Sat, 20 May 95 02:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: xarcor@aol.com (Xarco R) Subject: who has TASS nws. reader Date: 18 May 1995 20:56:14 -0400 Message-Id: <3pgqbe$dql@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Status: O X-Status: I have a tass news reader that works in conjunction with PINE. I know that a lot of people in this PINE newsgroup are accessing it through different news readers. My question is can any newsgroup be subscribed to using any news group reader? I've tried bringing up comp.mail.pine but I have not been successful using my tass newsreader. I would happily listen to anybodys comments on newsgroup subscribing or the use of how they suscribe to Pine other than via AOL. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 20 02:34:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08446; Sat, 20 May 95 02:34:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14310; Sat, 20 May 95 02:31:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14304; Sat, 20 May 95 02:31:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCkrc-00038IC; Sat, 20 May 95 02:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ryan@sunafs.cern.ch (Anne Marie Ryan) Subject: order of fields in header list Message-Id: Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 09:31:04 GMT Status: O X-Status: I am using Pine Version 3.90 on an Ultrix 4.3.0 workstation. When composing a message, I would like to include a Reply-To field by default, which I know how to do. However, I would prefer that the Reply-To field is not the first, i.e. top header in the header list but that the To: field were instead. This is to stop myself putting the target email address in the Reply-To field since I am used to typing the address without having to go down a field first. i.e. Is there a way to change the default order of the fields in the header list when composing a message? Thanks Anne Ryan (CERN) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 20 03:38:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09834; Sat, 20 May 95 03:38:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29418; Sat, 20 May 95 03:28:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29412; Sat, 20 May 95 03:28:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCliQ-00038IC; Sat, 20 May 95 03:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Grendel Subject: .newsrc update? Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 01:54:02 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have checked through the newsgroup and other sources and cannot find a way to update one's .newsrc file...can anybody help? Lee Latham From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 20 03:39:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09897; Sat, 20 May 95 03:39:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14795; Sat, 20 May 95 03:28:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14789; Sat, 20 May 95 03:28:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCljR-00038LC; Sat, 20 May 95 03:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Grendel Subject: disabling MIME Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 01:55:46 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Does anyone know a way to disable MIME encoding in Pine? I'm getting lots of problems e-mailing to Russia because they haven't adopted it yet, and I can't really ask everyone I send mail to there to go and get a MIME decoder, because they are business associates and that would be stupid. Any help would be appreciated. Peace Lee Latham From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 20 03:42:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09950; Sat, 20 May 95 03:42:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29485; Sat, 20 May 95 03:31:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29479; Sat, 20 May 95 03:31:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sClkj-00038MC; Sat, 20 May 95 03:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Grendel Subject: Re: Sending Mail in Chinese Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 01:59:15 -0500 Message-Id: References: <3p9efq$59q@peter.pu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3p9efq$59q@peter.pu.edu.tw> Status: O X-Status: On 16 May 1995, Fang_RongHsu wrote: > Hi, When I send mail to others in Chinese by using PINE, people > can not read these mails unless they use pine. I can receive > Chinese mail without any problems even sender uses different > mailing software. How can I solve this problem ? > > Your problem is probably that Pine MIME encodes _attachments_, if I understand correctly. See possible replies to my post about that a little further down, as I am having the same trouble sending Russian e-mail, as the Russian Koi-8 character set uses 8th bit ASCII, and I am willing to put good money on Chinese being the same way. Peace, Lee Latham From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 20 07:58:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14861; Sat, 20 May 95 07:58:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02717; Sat, 20 May 95 07:47:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from civil.civeng.unsw.OZ.AU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02711; Sat, 20 May 95 07:47:38 -0700 Received: by civeng.unsw.OZ.AU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21837; Sun, 21 May 95 00:51:23 EST Date: Sun, 21 May 95 00:51:23 EST From: u2139409@civeng.unsw.OZ.AU (Allen Yen Chung Hsu) Message-Id: <9505201451.AA21837@civeng.unsw.OZ.AU> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pico.. Status: O X-Status: Hi all, I was wondering if its at all possible to just install pico and not pine... Cheers, ================================================================================ u2139409@civeng.unsw.oz.au "Sportmanship is like winning as if you enjoyed it, and losing as if you enjoyed it for a change" -Annon ================================================================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 20 14:13:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21287; Sat, 20 May 95 14:13:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20871; Sat, 20 May 95 14:02:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20865; Sat, 20 May 95 14:02:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCvbj-00038MC; Sat, 20 May 95 13:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roland@fast.net Subject: Re: Can pine read POP mail Date: 20 May 1995 11:39:54 GMT Message-Id: <3pkkea$4ts@nn.fast.net> References: <950516Z114936.511john@albem.southern.co.nz> Status: O X-Status: > john@albem.southern.co.nz (John Collis) writes: > In article hoang1@litwin.com "Ted Hoang" writes: > > > Hi, > > Could someone tell me: Can pine read POP mail? > > If it can, please tell me how to do it. > > I'd be interested in knowing too! As you Read The Fine Manual, you'll see that Pine requires an IMAP mail server running on your host. Pine does not support the less-capable POP protocol. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 20 15:27:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22371; Sat, 20 May 95 15:27:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07914; Sat, 20 May 95 15:17:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07908; Sat, 20 May 95 15:17:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCwpw-00038MC; Sat, 20 May 95 15:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: daveg@imageek.york.cuny.edu (David Godinger) Subject: Sig. on top of Reply notes Date: 19 May 1995 16:02:57 GMT Message-Id: <3piffh$ro5@news.cuny.edu> Status: O X-Status: When I use the REPLY function, my signature appears *on top* of the quoted text. I find this annoying, and always waste time moving it to the bottom. If it's a problem in my configuration file, could I please have the exact syntax? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 20 16:26:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23318; Sat, 20 May 95 16:26:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22095; Sat, 20 May 95 16:17:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22089; Sat, 20 May 95 16:17:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sCxlI-00038MC; Sat, 20 May 95 16:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Re: How can I get a "successful delivered" mail after sending? Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 09:41:52 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3phlqn$mfn@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3phlqn$mfn@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Status: O X-Status: On 19 May 1995, Christian Schwarz wrote: > [...] > Sometimes, I want to get sure that an email message was delivered > to the target host successfully. I've read about a special feature > in some mail systems, where you get a short email back, after your > mail has reached the target host. Can I do this with pine? > > Christian Schwarz > schwarz@monet.m.isar.de, schwarz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de Getting acknowledgement of receipt of mail from a remote system, sometimes called a delivery receipt, is a dicey proposition. (There could be two forms: acknowledgement by the remote system that the mail arrived at that host at all, or an acknowledgement sent when the recipient actually looks at the mail.) To the best of my knowledge, there is no requirement in the Internet community whatever that delivery receipts be provided, and there are no standards for it. When it is done at all, different host systems do it in different ways, and many do not do it at all. Therefore, even if Pine made some sort of provision for automatic acknowledgement of receipt, there is no guarantee whatever that a remote receiving system would even respect it. So far as I know, Pine does not even make provision for it. Sorry. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 20 20:42:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27661; Sat, 20 May 95 20:42:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11586; Sat, 20 May 95 20:33:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11580; Sat, 20 May 95 20:33:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sD1cR-00038MC; Sat, 20 May 95 20:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vzvz@netcom.com (Philip Zeyliger) Subject: Mapping keys in Pine Message-Id: Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 02:50:42 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hello, I often tend to use the same key patterns very often. Since i have many incoming folders (procmail sorts it, pine reads it) in some of my folders (mailing lists) I want to delete all the messages right after I browse/read through them. In some i want to mark them all read. To do this i ussally do command sequences like ;aad or ;aa*!n etc. If there was a way like in vi (:map) to do this it would be wonderful! No more pains to do simple things! Thank you for a *great* mail program! -- |\__ ---------------------------------------------------- __/| / o\__ __/o \ | ___=' Philip Zeyliger `=___ | | \ vzvz@netcom.com / | \ \ / / > \ ---------> KOHb <--------- / < _| KOHb |_ on the Free Internet Chess Server _| |_ | ______ | telnet ics.onenet.net 5000 | ______ | |__________| ==================================================== |__________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 20 21:10:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28183; Sat, 20 May 95 21:10:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24667; Sat, 20 May 95 21:03:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24661; Sat, 20 May 95 21:03:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sD29J-00038MC; Sat, 20 May 95 20:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lmiller@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx (Larry Miller [DT]) Subject: Re: How to resend mail? Date: 17 May 1995 15:22:19 -0600 Message-Id: <3pdpeb$2b8@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx> References: Status: O X-Status: Buster Ashmore (bashmore@grouse.amd.com) wrote: > Maybe I'm suffering a mental block, but is there an easier way to resend > a message in the sent-mail folder, without doing a forward and > re-entering all the header info. It would be nice if you could also edit > to TO: field. As does the bounce command? Saludos-- Larry Miller Administrador de Redes / Network Administrator Centro de Investigaciones Biologicas del Noroeste, La Paz, BCS Mexico lmiller@cibnor.conacyt.mx From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 20 21:12:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28263; Sat, 20 May 95 21:12:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11959; Sat, 20 May 95 21:03:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11953; Sat, 20 May 95 21:03:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sD2Aw-00038OC; Sat, 20 May 95 20:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Scott YU Subject: Re: Sending Mail in Chinese Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 11:12:15 +0800 Message-Id: References: <3p9efq$59q@peter.pu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: I had traced the source code of pine , and found that pine will encode & decode chinese characters to "Quoted-Printable" characters . So your receptor can't read the chinese message unless using decoded e-mail tool (such as pine). Therefore , I modified the encode & decode parts of pine3.91 source code for this problem by remarking it's function and created encode & decode function by another keystroke . Scott YU scott@tactri.hinet.net Taiwan Argiculture Chemicals & Toxic Substances Research Institute From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 21 04:34:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07767; Sun, 21 May 95 04:34:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17496; Sun, 21 May 95 04:24:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17490; Sun, 21 May 95 04:24:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sD91j-00038RC; Sun, 21 May 95 04:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lmiller@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx (Larry Miller [DT]) Subject: Re: How do you fake mail with PINE? Date: 19 May 1995 07:57:22 -0600 Message-Id: <3pi842$pib@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx> References: <3pgqmp$il2@case.cyberspace.com> Status: O X-Status: Toby Reed (toby@cyberspace.com) wrote: > How? E-MAIL please... THX. You gibber the headtailer to confusilate the mailglarker. Do NOT alias the clientgrabber at risk of froomduming the sysjefe. Cheers! Larry Miller From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 21 05:38:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09118; Sun, 21 May 95 05:38:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29707; Sun, 21 May 95 05:30:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29701; Sun, 21 May 95 05:30:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDA4I-00038IC; Sun, 21 May 95 05:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ryi@uclink2.berkeley.edu (Rick Yi) Subject: Can I use PINE from a shell account? Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 07:32:46 GMT Message-Id: <3pmqbd$194@agate.berkeley.edu> Status: O X-Status: Currently there are no mail readers available on one of my accounts and I would like to have access to PINE to read mail. Do I just download the binaries and install it in my shell acount or do I need root access to be able to install/use PINE. Also, related to that question, how do I find out what kind of system I am on? Finger tells me what shell I'm using, but not the operating system. Basically I need a FAQ on installing pine. Thanks in advance. -Rick From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 21 05:54:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09410; Sun, 21 May 95 05:54:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18448; Sun, 21 May 95 05:46:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18442; Sun, 21 May 95 05:46:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDAMI-00038MC; Sun, 21 May 95 05:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maryb@eskimo.com (Mary Brown) Subject: Re: How can I get a "successful delivered" mail after sending? Message-Id: References: <3phlqn$mfn@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 04:17:16 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article , "Paul O. Bartlett" wrote: > On 19 May 1995, Christian Schwarz wrote: > > > [...] > > Sometimes, I want to get sure that an email message was delivered > > to the target host successfully. I've read about a special feature > > in some mail systems, where you get a short email back, after your > > mail has reached the target host. Can I do this with pine? > respect it. So far as I know, Pine does not even make provision for it. Yes you can. Use the Custom Headers. I posted this question about how to get a receipt, before, and nobody answered, but I hacked around with it and got it to work. I'm not in Pine right now, so I can't tell you exactly what I did. But I'll post it if anyone is interested when I check what I did ... Works for most systems, although it didn't work when trying to post a newsgroup message in Pine. Maybe it was just that particular newsgroup, though. -- Mary D. Brown maryb@eskimo.com Check out my Home Page at http://www.eskimo.com/~maryb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 21 07:04:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10498; Sun, 21 May 95 07:04:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00499; Sun, 21 May 95 06:54:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00493; Sun, 21 May 95 06:54:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDBOM-00038IC; Sun, 21 May 95 06:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fschreib@aixterm2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Florian Schreibweis) Subject: Quote chars setting ... ? Date: 21 May 1995 13:25:29 GMT Message-Id: <3pnf09$arr@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Status: O X-Status: In UNIX Pine 3.87, how do I set the quote chars to ':_' or '>_'? Any comments will be appreciated. Florian Schreibweis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 21 08:02:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11529; Sun, 21 May 95 08:02:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19892; Sun, 21 May 95 07:49:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19886; Sun, 21 May 95 07:49:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDCGv-00038QC; Sun, 21 May 95 07:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: grahamn@perth.DIALix.oz.au (Graham Nowland) Subject: Mime Encoding Switchoff Date: 21 May 1995 21:23:58 +0800 Message-Id: <3pnete$3vg$1@perth.DIALix.oz.au> Status: O X-Status: Someone made a comment about Mime encdoding whichmesses up ascii transferes. I've experienced this too and would like to switch off MIME for the attachments and send in pure ascii. Is it possible. Pine is a great mailer but this Mime feature is a real drag. -- Graham Nowland-Writer 10 Trenton Way Perth 6023 WA. Phone (09) 447 5656. Fax (09) 447 4880 e-mail grahamn@perth.DIALix.oz.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 21 09:34:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13327; Sun, 21 May 95 09:34:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01884; Sun, 21 May 95 09:27:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01878; Sun, 21 May 95 09:27:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDDon-00038QC; Sun, 21 May 95 09:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Re: How can I get a "successful delivered" mail after sending? Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 12:03:28 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3phlqn$mfn@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 20 May 1995, Mary Brown wrote: > > > Sometimes, I want to get sure that an email message was delivered > > > to the target host successfully. I've read about a special feature > > > in some mail systems, where you get a short email back, after your > > > mail has reached the target host. Can I do this with pine? > > Yes you can. Use the Custom Headers. I posted this question about how to > get a receipt, before, and nobody answered, but I hacked around with it > and got it to work. I'm not in Pine right now, so I can't tell you exactly > what I did. But I'll post it if anyone is interested when I check what I > did ... > > Works for most systems, although it didn't work when trying to post a > newsgroup message in Pine. Maybe it was just that particular newsgroup, > though. Please do post this information, especially as I was the one who replied that it couldn't be done by Pine. I am aware that it can be done to some extent by mail-processing front ends such as procmail on Unix. I still don't see how it could be done for newsgroup postings (or why one would even want to, most of the time). I would be interested in knowing of your solution. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 21 09:55:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13811; Sun, 21 May 95 09:55:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21309; Sun, 21 May 95 09:51:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21303; Sun, 21 May 95 09:51:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDECs-00038QC; Sun, 21 May 95 09:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Re: Quote chars setting ... ? Message-Id: Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 10:20:09 -0600 In-Reply-To: <3pnf09$arr@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 21 May 1995, Florian Schreibweis wrote: :_ Date: 21 MAY 1995 13:25:29 GMT :_ From: Florian Schreibweis :_ Newgroups: comp.mail.pine :_ Subject: Quote chars setting ... ? :_ :_ In UNIX Pine 3.87, how do I set the quote chars to ':_' or :_ '>_'? Any comments will be appreciated. :_ :_ Florian Schreibweis :_ :_ :_ Put this script in a file named customquotes: - -------- CUT HERE --------- #! /bin/csh -f set MYCHARS = ":_ " sed s/"^> "/"$MYCHARS"/g < $1 > ~/pico.$$ cat ~/pico.$$ > $1 rm ~/pico.$$ - -------- CUT HERE --------- Make it executable (chmod 700 customquotes), and point Pine's alternate editor at it. Reply to a message. Hit ^_ ( _ ) to change the leading "> " to the value of MYCHARS. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp1.1.4, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBL78Tu+Bu0383Om6dAQG1xgP8D0EtCgMkzJnMnMGxqpUoCkv5gx+caZCY XubWjMYyuk9zm4V86627bKepfHsSTObvGJSWa1QtgmaAVbQQ2NDqhVnWYkqa+AHF 9NzHKDqZuih6UQFLTEC4AQ5ElWIHS3sZaifGrzXjl46bpjm9UMAw6Y/8acU05po5 hhHwY7+C24E= =cRA4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka "The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 21 11:39:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15768; Sun, 21 May 95 11:39:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03130; Sun, 21 May 95 11:36:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03124; Sun, 21 May 95 11:36:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDFoh-00038RC; Sun, 21 May 95 11:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Moshe Segal Subject: Is there a way to convert from files to folders? Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 13:37:39 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Very often, I use the Export command to join similar messages into one file in the home directory. Last night, I got to thinking that some messages have more value and deserve to be saved more than others. I tried moving the file to the "mail directory. It did register as one of my folders, but when I accessed it with Pine, it told me it was only one read-only message. I copied a folder into my home directory and examined it, but did not find anything different about it. There were several blank lines between the end of one message and the beginning of the next. Is there a way to edit a file so that Pine will see it as a series of messages? Thank you for your answer. You're not the only one who's made mistakes Moshe E. SEgal But they're the only things 1336 Cory Drive That you can truly call your own Dayton, Oh 45406 Some people hope for a miracle cure, s010mes@discover.wright.edu Some people just accept the world as it is. (513) 279-0438 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 21 13:46:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18221; Sun, 21 May 95 13:46:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24103; Sun, 21 May 95 13:42:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24097; Sun, 21 May 95 13:42:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDHlT-00038RC; Sun, 21 May 95 13:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: MLR94001@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Subject: I cant use Pine when I telnet. Date: Sun, 21 May 95 16:15:55 EDT Message-Id: <173A5E4BBS86.MLR94001@UConnVM.UConn.Edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi, I was wondering if any of you might have had experience with my problem. I am trying telnet to an account that I have at Duke University from UCONN. The UCONN mainfraime seems to have some sort of CMS shell. My problem is that I am able to telnet (and ANET) to my computer O.K. I cannot, however, use Pine. The message I receive is that the Duke system does not recognize the terminal emulation IBM-3278-2. Does anyone know a way to emulate something that the Duke computer, a SUN station, will recognize? Any Ideas would be greatly appreciated .Please mail me at MLR94001@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU. Thanks again. Matthew Ramadanovic From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 21 14:30:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18956; Sun, 21 May 95 14:30:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04818; Sun, 21 May 95 14:27:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04812; Sun, 21 May 95 14:27:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDIUS-00038RC; Sun, 21 May 95 14:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maryb@eskimo.com (Mary Brown) Subject: Re: How can I get a "successful delivered" mail after sending? Message-Id: References: <3phlqn$mfn@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 22:02:53 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article , "Paul O. Bartlett" wrote: > On Sat, 20 May 1995, Mary Brown wrote: > > Yes you can. Use the Custom Headers. I posted this question about how to > Please do post this information, especially as I was the one who > replied that it couldn't be done by Pine. Ok, I checked and this is what I added to the Setup/Configuration: customized-hdrs = Return-Receipt-To: maryb@eskimo.com That's it. It won't show up in your outgoing message unless you select Rich Headers. Works for me, anyway ... -- Mary D. Brown maryb@eskimo.com Check out my Home Page at http://www.eskimo.com/~maryb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 21 14:49:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19365; Sun, 21 May 95 14:49:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24842; Sun, 21 May 95 14:46:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24836; Sun, 21 May 95 14:46:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDIms-00038RC; Sun, 21 May 95 14:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mksmith@u.washington.edu (Michael Smith) Subject: Attach-file problems Date: 21 May 1995 21:14:04 GMT Message-Id: <3poaes$7n8@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Status: O X-Status: I am having difficulties in attaching a Word file to e-mail as follows: 1) The document is saved in 'word' format, supposedly interchangeable between Mac and PC platforms. Note: the doc has also been saved in various windows formats. 2) Document is sent "sz" from my Mac w/ Z-term to my Unix account. 3) File is attached to mail using control key in Pine. 4) Receiver is unable to translate file; i.e. the file will not open in Word. I have not had this problem with files saved in text-only format, but I need to retain the formatting of the document including special characters. Can anyone help with this? -- ***Michael Smith***mksmith@u.washington.edu*** PGP Key (and other stuff) available at: http://weber.u.washington.edu/~mksmith/ or: ftp.u.washington.edu public/mksmith/PGPKey.asc From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 21 16:45:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21525; Sun, 21 May 95 16:45:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06167; Sun, 21 May 95 16:41:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06161; Sun, 21 May 95 16:41:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDKZo-00038RC; Sun, 21 May 95 16:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Re: How can I get a "successful delivered" mail after sending? Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 19:28:20 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 21 May 1995, Ian Russell Ollmann wrote: > If you add a customized header which says: > > Return-Receipt-To: > > to your message, most sendmail programs will send a receipt to any address > appearing after the header. [...] > It should be emphasised that this does not work on all > systems since not _all_ systems support the Return-Receipt feature. [...] Thanks for replying. I was aware of these points (especially how to configure Pine). Somehow I had the idea (perhaps mistakenly on my part) that someone was claiming to have coerced a delivery reciept from a receiving end by doing something on a sending end. As you point out, not all systems even respond to the Return-Receipt-To: field if it is present. I certainly do not have any kind of figures, but I speculate that a significant portion of non-Unix systems (e.g., IBM VM/PROFS) do not recognize this field. In such a case, there is nothing the person using Pine to *send* mail can do, short of getting a new Internet standard through and waiting for it to be universally implemented. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 21 17:01:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21855; Sun, 21 May 95 17:01:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26368; Sun, 21 May 95 16:56:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26362; Sun, 21 May 95 16:56:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDKrG-00038RC; Sun, 21 May 95 16:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kinnk@cougar.vut.edu.au (Nicholas King) Subject: Redirecting Pine Date: 22 May 1995 09:09:33 +1000 Message-Id: <3poh7d$5kk@cougar.vut.edu.au> Status: O X-Status: hey PPls, Just a quick question, how can you redirect a certain Address Like A Mailing list from your inbox to a folder so that it doesnt clog up your in box, any suggestions please Email them to me, thanks Cheers -- -- Victoria University of Technology Nicholas King Information Technology (Melton Campus) .-_!\ Phone : (03) 747 7432 PO Box 14428 MMC, Melbourne 3000 / \ Fax : (03) 743 1554 Mail ---> kinnk@cougar.vut.edu.au \_.-._/ ---> Nicholas=King@vut.edu.au V -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 21 17:30:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22530; Sun, 21 May 95 17:30:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06689; Sun, 21 May 95 17:27:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06683; Sun, 21 May 95 17:27:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDLJP-00038SC; Sun, 21 May 95 17:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Gotcha Using PROCOMM+ and Pine Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 20:22:16 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This evening I discovered a gotcha with my communications software and Pine on a dialup Unix. I'll describe it, and anybody interested may email me for the fix, as it will apply only to a minority of readers. When composing/replying/forwarding in Pine, one may invoke an alternate editor (Alt Edit) with the keystroke ^_ (control-underscore). J. Kelly Cunningham's useful (thank you) tip of earlier today to replace the message-quoting characters makes use of this. I simply had had no reason to use this function before, so when I tried it, blooey! Fortunately, the fix is simple. I am using PROCOMM Plus Version 2 on an MS-DOS PC, Version 5. PROCOMM Plus dials me into my Internet service provider, a BSD Unix system which has Pine 3.91 installed. When I press the ^_ key combination, I do not get whatever I specified for an alternate editor for Pine. Instead, the screen flashes clear and shifts into 43-line mode!!! It takes a bit of coaxing and coercing on the keyboard to get my Unix-and-Pine session back. Obviously, what you see ain't what you get. Although I have not found it yet in the PROCOMM documentation, ^_ obviously does not send the desired value (hex 1F, I think) back to the host. Instead, PROCOMM Plus intercepts it and does weird things. Fortunately there is a simple solution involving PROCOMM Plus's keyboard remapping program. If my scenario fits your situation, email me and I'll send instructions on how to do it, rather than take up space here for those not affectd. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 21 17:59:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23006; Sun, 21 May 95 17:59:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27070; Sun, 21 May 95 17:56:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rocoto.aug.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27064; Sun, 21 May 95 17:56:20 -0700 Received: (from plardner@localhost) by rocoto.aug.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id UAA27710; Sun, 21 May 1995 20:56:22 -0400 Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 20:56:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Lardner To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: BitCom and Pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Have any BitCom users experienced the "Expected Variable or Constant" message when attempting to move through a document line by line using the down arrow? The same phenomenon occurs when using Joe as the editor. Any ideas on how to fix this? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 21 21:57:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28500; Sun, 21 May 95 21:57:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00565; Sun, 21 May 95 21:53:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00559; Sun, 21 May 95 21:53:18 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03909; Sun, 21 May 95 21:53:16 -0700 Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 21:52:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Moshe Segal Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Is there a way to convert from files to folders? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Unfortunately, Pine 3.91 has a bug in the Export command such that the message separator is missing a space (before the date, I think) so that Pine does not recognize it as a valid message separator. Sorry... but if you're handy with Unix tools you should be able to fix the file. -teg On Sun, 21 May 1995, Moshe Segal wrote: > Very often, I use the Export command to join similar messages into one > file in the home directory. Last night, I got to thinking that some > messages have more value and deserve to be saved more than others. I > tried moving the file to the "mail directory. It did register as one of > my folders, but when I accessed it with Pine, it told me it was only one > read-only message. I copied a folder into my home directory and examined > it, but did not find anything different about it. There were several > blank lines between the end of one message and the beginning of the > next. Is there a way to edit a file so that Pine will see it as a series > of messages? Thank you for your answer. > > > You're not the only one who's made mistakes Moshe E. SEgal > But they're the only things 1336 Cory Drive > That you can truly call your own Dayton, Oh 45406 > > Some people hope for a miracle cure, s010mes@discover.wright.edu > Some people just accept the world as it is. (513) 279-0438 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 21 22:01:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28615; Sun, 21 May 95 22:01:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09882; Sun, 21 May 95 21:58:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09876; Sun, 21 May 95 21:58:40 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03946; Sun, 21 May 95 21:58:37 -0700 Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 21:58:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Mary Brown Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How can I get a "successful delivered" mail after sending? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Mary, The header is sent even if you don't happen to look at it via ^R. If you want to choose on a case-by-case basis, then just put the header name in the custom headers, then add your own address (which you may want to have in your addressbook as a single character nickname) whenever you need this facility. If you don't also have that header in the default composer header list, you'll need to use ^R to reveal it. -teg On Sun, 21 May 1995, Mary Brown wrote: > In article , > "Paul O. Bartlett" wrote: > > > On Sat, 20 May 1995, Mary Brown wrote: > > > > Yes you can. Use the Custom Headers. I posted this question about how to > > > Please do post this information, especially as I was the one who > > replied that it couldn't be done by Pine. > > Ok, I checked and this is what I added to the Setup/Configuration: > > customized-hdrs = Return-Receipt-To: maryb@eskimo.com > > That's it. It won't show up in your outgoing message unless you select > Rich Headers. > > Works for me, anyway ... > > -- > Mary D. Brown > maryb@eskimo.com > Check out my Home Page at http://www.eskimo.com/~maryb > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 21 22:11:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28893; Sun, 21 May 95 22:11:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00765; Sun, 21 May 95 22:07:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00756; Sun, 21 May 95 22:07:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDPh6-00038SC; Sun, 21 May 95 22:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Quote longer than reply Date: 22 May 1995 04:39:59 GMT Message-Id: <3pp4iv$e6r@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Kevin Yeung (keviny@HK.Super.Net) wrote: : Hello everybody, : I use pine to read/reply news and it works fine until just then I : realized it didn't let me post when "quote longer than reply." Geez, : somehow I really had to. How to switch off this ugly feature? Thank you. : : Kevin Yeung : email: keviny@hk.super.net Eliminate quotations except for those few lines neccessary to follow the thread, or as Ralph Waldo Emerson once said: "I hate quotations; Tell me what you know." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 21 22:41:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29453; Sun, 21 May 95 22:41:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10277; Sun, 21 May 95 22:37:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10271; Sun, 21 May 95 22:37:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDQ7m-00038SC; Sun, 21 May 95 22:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: who has TASS nws. reader Date: 22 May 1995 05:02:20 GMT Message-Id: <3pp5ss$e6r@grape.epix.net> References: <3pgqbe$dql@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Status: O X-Status: Xarco R (xarcor@aol.com) wrote: : I have a tass news reader that works in conjunction with PINE. I know : that a lot of people in this PINE newsgroup are accessing it through : different news readers. My question is can any newsgroup be subscribed to : using any news group reader? I've tried bringing up comp.mail.pine but I : have not been successful using my tass newsreader. Hhmmm ... I thought Michael Gorbachov (sp?) disabled the TASS newsfeader ! :-) ;-) ;-( ;-{ ;-{ ;-) :-) :-)) John (aka DearOldDad) BYE From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 00:37:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01754; Mon, 22 May 95 00:37:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02484; Mon, 22 May 95 00:31:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02472; Mon, 22 May 95 00:31:32 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA22103; Mon, 22 May 95 09:29:25 +0200 Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 09:29:24 +0200 (METDST) From: "Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD?=)" To: "Bhyrava M. Prasad" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Ivo Solnicky Subject: Re: HOW to setup imapd? In-Reply-To: <3pgemg$chg@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: On 18 May 1995, Bhyrava M. Prasad wrote: > I have an "impad" daemon for my Unixware 2.0 machine > which I downloaded from Novell's ftp site. Unfortunately,=20 > I could not find any instructions to set it up. Could anyone > send me the /etc/services and any other files which=20 > have to be made to run this daemon? Do I need to make any > changes to inetd.conf?=20 Put something like the following line to your /etc/services file: imap 143/tcp # IMAP Remote Mail Access Protocol and something like the following line to your inetd.conf file: imap stream tcp nowait /usr/local/etc/imapd imapd then it should work (of course replace the path and file name by your=20 system path to the imapd file). > I also would liketo know if I can have both a POP daemon=20 > and an IMAP daemon running on the same machine concurrently.=20 Yes, it is possible, we run both servers at our Unix host. Regards V. S. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz Europe Files (with description!) place to ftp://ftp.utia.cas.cz/pub/income/vs Maybe valid: http://www.utia.cas.cz/home/WWW/data/user_data/vs/vs-home.http From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 03:07:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05120; Mon, 22 May 95 03:07:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12730; Mon, 22 May 95 02:45:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12721; Mon, 22 May 95 02:44:59 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 22 May 1995 10:41:34 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id KAA16958; Mon, 22 May 1995 10:45:54 +0100 Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 10:45:53 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ANSI escape codes for Pine? In-Reply-To: <3pg79q$d9j@crcnis3.unl.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This is actually something I would definitiely like to see disabled (possibly under the control of an option in the configuration screen). It is not unknown for people to receive such messages with (possibly accidentally included, courtesy of other operating systems) funny control sequences that mess up their terminal when reading messages. In fact with certain types of terminal/terminal emulator the possibility of including such control characters for "display" by Pine can cause more serious problems (eg, locking up of terminals) and even security problems. I would *really* like to see control characters (including Escape) filtered out/displayed as "real" text when a message is displayed within Pine. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On 18 May 1995, Jon Keene wrote: > I've received some messages in my Pine account that incorporate > bold (nice) and flashing (nasty) text. When I look at the messages > using vi I see what looks like ANSI escape codes surrounding > the altered text, but I've been unable to duplicate it. > > Can anyone clue me in? Do I need any special entries in my > .pinerc file? > > Thanks a lot, > Jon > > -- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 05:06:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08633; Mon, 22 May 95 05:06:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05866; Mon, 22 May 95 04:48:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05854; Mon, 22 May 95 04:48:29 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id HAA26542; Mon, 22 May 1995 07:48:21 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id HAA30744; Mon, 22 May 1995 07:48:19 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA02768; Mon, 22 May 95 07:46:56 EDT Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 07:46:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Graham Nowland Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Mime Encoding Switchoff In-Reply-To: <3pnete$3vg$1@perth.DIALix.oz.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 21 May 1995, Graham Nowland wrote: > Someone made a comment about Mime encdoding whichmesses up ascii > transferes. I've experienced this too and would like to switch off MIME > for the attachments and send in pure ascii. Is it possible. Pine is a > great mailer but this Mime feature is a real drag. > Yes. Don't 'attach' it. Instead, read in the ASCII file using the ctrl-R command while in the composer (the message text portion). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 05:08:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08688; Mon, 22 May 95 05:08:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05936; Mon, 22 May 95 04:51:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05924; Mon, 22 May 95 04:51:37 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id HAA26617; Mon, 22 May 1995 07:51:34 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id HAA28714; Mon, 22 May 1995 07:51:32 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA02841; Mon, 22 May 95 07:50:09 EDT Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 07:50:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Michael Smith Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Attach-file problems In-Reply-To: <3poaes$7n8@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 21 May 1995, Michael Smith wrote: > I am having difficulties in attaching a Word file to e-mail as follows: > 1) The document is saved in 'word' format, supposedly interchangeable > between Mac and PC platforms. Note: the doc has also been saved in > various windows formats. 2) Document is sent "sz" from my Mac w/ Z-term > to my Unix account. 3) File is attached to mail using control key in > Pine. 4) Receiver is unable to translate file; i.e. the file will not > open in Word. > > I have not had this problem with files saved in text-only format, but I > need to retain the formatting of the document including special > characters. Can anyone help with this? > We've seen the problem here. It was caused here by incompatible versions of Word. You might try exporting the file to RTF or other compatible format for the transfer. Good luck, Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 07:53:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12152; Mon, 22 May 95 07:53:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15764; Mon, 22 May 95 07:17:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.bridgeway.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15758; Mon, 22 May 95 07:17:14 -0700 Received: by server.bridgeway.com id <207660>; Mon, 22 May 1995 07:17:12 -0700 Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 07:16:59 -0700 From: Andrew Le To: Michael Smith Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Attach-file problems In-Reply-To: <3poaes$7n8@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Can you try saving the file in "RTF" format? That is a text file, which includes formatting characters in text also.... ================================================================== Andrew Le support@server.bridgeway.com ================================================================== On Sun, 21 May 1995, Michael Smith wrote: > I am having difficulties in attaching a Word file to e-mail as follows: > 1) The document is saved in 'word' format, supposedly interchangeable > between Mac and PC platforms. Note: the doc has also been saved in > various windows formats. 2) Document is sent "sz" from my Mac w/ Z-term > to my Unix account. 3) File is attached to mail using control key in > Pine. 4) Receiver is unable to translate file; i.e. the file will not > open in Word. > > I have not had this problem with files saved in text-only format, but I > need to retain the formatting of the document including special > characters. Can anyone help with this? > > > > -- > ***Michael Smith***mksmith@u.washington.edu*** > PGP Key (and other stuff) available at: > http://weber.u.washington.edu/~mksmith/ or: > ftp.u.washington.edu public/mksmith/PGPKey.asc > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 07:53:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12161; Mon, 22 May 95 07:53:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16061; Mon, 22 May 95 07:37:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rs8.loc.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16055; Mon, 22 May 95 07:37:16 -0700 Received: by rs8.loc.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA25689; Mon, 22 May 1995 10:37:15 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 10:37:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "R. Russell Neuswanger" To: Pine Subject: how to combine address lists? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have several address lists, with some overlap, that I want to pour into an overgroup that will get a single nickname. I could go into my sent-mail, each time I send something to an existing group, and use the take-address command to add to the overgroup -- if(!) I didn't mind waiting and could be sure to remember. But is there an efficient way? Related question: when I send a nonce message to two or three groups, it seems pine chokes on any overlap (i.e., same name in two groups). Is there an easy way to de-dup the to: list without going through setting up an overgroup? R. R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Edel sei der Mensch, Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance Hilfreich und gut! AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP), LC Denn das allein Washington, DC 20540-4120 Unterscheidet ihn ... 202.707.8747 (shared line) -- Goethe rrne@loc.gov or neuswang@mail.loc.gov No teratobibliotic entity avows *my* emanations. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 08:28:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13466; Mon, 22 May 95 08:28:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08737; Mon, 22 May 95 08:08:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rs8.loc.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08730; Mon, 22 May 95 08:08:31 -0700 Received: by rs8.loc.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA84565; Mon, 22 May 1995 11:08:30 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 11:08:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "R. Russell Neuswanger" To: pine-info Subject: alphabetizing address groups Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is there a way? I'd prefer, at least at the moment, to do it by surname, in order to eliminate duplicates among people for whom I have more than one Net address; but sorting by nickname might sometimes be useful, too. R. R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Edel sei der Mensch, Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance Hilfreich und gut! AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP), LC Denn das allein Washington, DC 20540-4120 Unterscheidet ihn ... 202.707.8747 (shared line) -- Goethe rrne@loc.gov or neuswang@mail.loc.gov No teratobibliotic entity avows *my* emanations. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 09:51:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17434; Mon, 22 May 95 09:51:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10937; Mon, 22 May 95 09:43:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10931; Mon, 22 May 95 09:43:24 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 22 May 1995 17:32:53 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id RAA21605; Mon, 22 May 1995 17:23:37 +0100 Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 17:23:36 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: "R. Russell Neuswanger" Cc: pine-info Subject: Re: alphabetizing address groups In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Yes... you can set your preferences in the Setup Configuration screen (Main Menu, then "S" followed by "C"). Look down the list and you'll see something like this: addrbook-sort-rule = Set Rule Values --- ---------------------- ( ) fullname-with-lists-last ( ) fullname (*) nickname-with-lists-last ( ) nickname ( ) dont-sort Just select the sort order you want. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On Mon, 22 May 1995, R. Russell Neuswanger wrote: > Is there a way? I'd prefer, at least at the moment, to do it by > surname, in order to eliminate duplicates among people for whom I have > more than one Net address; but sorting by nickname might sometimes be > useful, too. > > > R. R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Edel sei der Mensch, > Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance Hilfreich und gut! > AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP), LC Denn das allein > Washington, DC 20540-4120 Unterscheidet ihn ... > 202.707.8747 (shared line) -- Goethe > rrne@loc.gov or neuswang@mail.loc.gov > > No teratobibliotic entity avows *my* emanations. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 11:09:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20813; Mon, 22 May 95 11:09:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12805; Mon, 22 May 95 11:00:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12799; Mon, 22 May 95 11:00:37 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06354; Mon, 22 May 95 11:00:37 -0700 Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 18:19:30 EDT From: MXWC22A@prodigy.com (MR LESLIE P BIHARY) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-342.56] Message-Id: <013.06781824.MXWC22A@prodigy.com> To: Majordomo-Owner@cac.washington.edu Subject: Mime Resent-Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 11:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: -- [ From: Leslie Bihary * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- I am a recent computere anthusiast, and having a pc system, I am an completeley ignorant to the Unix system, but I am willing to learn. First, please enlighten me as to the wonderfulness of the Unix system, as I have read peoples' testimonies to it, and the dedication to develop it further, is truely remarkable. Now, I am really curious. Second and specificely, I am avid browser of the Internet through the Prodigy, AOL and Delphi, and recently "subscribed to a "publication" which is mostly in MIME mode, and I can't read it. Although, I consider myself a fairly inteligent human being, and somewhat knowledgeable in the art of "computing", and after spending many hours of downloading and "RFM", I am still at square one. I have downloaded all five or more version of PINE and selecting the PcPine-w which is the window version, but I could not make it run, because a file called Winsock.dll was missing. All "read me" and similar files say that "assuming" that we already have "Winsock/FTP/IP" ( or something like it) which I don't have the faintest idea as to if it is apple or orange, whether it is a program or a file. Nevertheless, I have spent countless hours looking for this program/file, but no avail. Conclusion. Gentlemen, what are we doing??? Is Unix in war against PC and MAC? For years I have been able to receive and read massages in Ascii, txt, doc and god knows how many more different languages, and all of a sudden (I am sure its due to my own ignorance) I can't read an Intenet massage, because its in MIME. Please forgive me, but I am frustrated as hell. This reminds me of Babel. We have the knowhow, we have the technology, and we now should have a universal computer language, that all people understand, regardless of country, race, religion, sexual orientation and whathaveyounot. Are we going to have this?????????????????????????? Thank you for your time, and whatever assistant you can give me, so that I may be able to read my Mime massages. Wishing all of You God's speed and help for your continued efforts, research and all Your future endevour. Leslie Bihary............... mxwc22a@prodigy.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 11:24:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21415; Mon, 22 May 95 11:24:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13267; Mon, 22 May 95 11:18:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13261; Mon, 22 May 95 11:18:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDc0Y-00038BC; Mon, 22 May 95 11:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: Quote chars setting ... ? Date: 22 May 1995 12:42:45 -0500 Message-Id: <3pqiel$4ea@oink.cs.utexas.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: [ "J. Kelly Cunningham" wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] -> Put this script in a file named customquotes: -> -> - -------- CUT HERE --------- -> #! /bin/csh -f -> set MYCHARS = ":_ " -> sed s/"^> "/"$MYCHARS"/g < $1 > ~/pico.$$ -> cat ~/pico.$$ > $1 -> rm ~/pico.$$ -> - -------- CUT HERE --------- -> -> Make it executable (chmod 700 customquotes), and point Pine's alternate -> editor at it. -> -> Reply to a message. Hit ^_ ( _ ) to change the leading "> " to -> the value of MYCHARS. If you use "ispell" as your alternate editor add the following line, so the script looks like: #!/bin/csh -f set MYCHARS = ":_ " sed s/"^> "/"$MYCHARS"/g < $1 > /tmp/pico.$$ cat /tmp/pico.$$ > $1 rm -f /tmp/pico.$$ exec ispell $1 Ananda -- Ananda M. Kar |(H)458-9754 | URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/ananda/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 12:04:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22912; Mon, 22 May 95 12:04:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21584; Mon, 22 May 95 11:58:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21578; Mon, 22 May 95 11:58:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDcgS-00038BC; Mon, 22 May 95 11:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pilutti@mozart.srl.ford.com (Tom Pilutti) Subject: varcation reply possible? Date: 22 May 1995 16:00:40 GMT Message-Id: <3pqcf8$lq4@eccdb1.pms.ford.com> Status: O X-Status: i'd like to know if pine is able to support an automatic vacation reply so that a canned message is sent back to people when they send me a message. if it is possible, any pointers would be helpful. much obliged, -- |--------------------------------------------------------------| | __ o Tom Pilutti, Control Systems Department | | _`\<, Ford Research Labs 313.337.1128v | | ( )/( ) pilutti@fmsrlw.srl.ford.com 313.323.8239f | |______________________________________________________________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 12:44:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24414; Mon, 22 May 95 12:44:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22366; Mon, 22 May 95 12:41:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22359; Mon, 22 May 95 12:41:27 -0700 Received: from ozzo.u.washington.edu by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00238; Mon, 22 May 95 12:41:27 -0700 Received: by ozzo.u.washington.edu (AIX 9516B-UP 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA21130; Mon, 22 May 1995 12:40:37 -0700 Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 12:40:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "David L. Miller" X-Sender: dlm@ozzo.u.washington.edu To: Tom Pilutti Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: varcation reply possible? In-Reply-To: <3pqcf8$lq4@eccdb1.pms.ford.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 22 May 1995, Tom Pilutti wrote: > > i'd like to know if pine is able to support an automatic vacation > reply so that a canned message is sent back to people when they > send me a message. if it is possible, any pointers would be > helpful. > Pine does not have this capability. Use the "vacation" program or a delivery filter program... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 13:33:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26872; Mon, 22 May 95 13:33:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23486; Mon, 22 May 95 13:29:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23480; Mon, 22 May 95 13:29:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDe5Q-00038DC; Mon, 22 May 95 13:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: Reply not working Date: 22 May 1995 13:27:12 -0500 Message-Id: <3pql20$52r@oink.cs.utexas.edu> References: <3pq6n5$n44@hap.arnold.af.mil> Status: O X-Status: [ Julie VanHooser wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] -> For some reason, pine is stripping the return site and -> appending the local system name to the end of the From -> line and therefore replies are not working. Check your ".pinerc" and see whether the domain is set. # Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail. user-domain= If not, your sys-admin may have set it in the global conf file. Good Luck Ananda -- Ananda M. Kar |(H)458-9754 | URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/ananda/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 13:34:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26942; Mon, 22 May 95 13:34:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16274; Mon, 22 May 95 13:29:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16268; Mon, 22 May 95 13:29:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDe5Z-00038FC; Mon, 22 May 95 13:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: Redirecting Pine Date: 22 May 1995 13:22:26 -0500 Message-Id: <3pqkp2$516@oink.cs.utexas.edu> References: <3poh7d$5kk@cougar.vut.edu.au> Status: O X-Status: [ kinnk@cougar.vut.edu.au (Nicholas King) wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] -> hey PPls, -> Just a quick question, how can you redirect a certain Address -> Like A Mailing list from your inbox to a folder so that it doesnt clog -> up your in box, -> any suggestions please Email them to me, thanks PINE can't do this automatically. You need to use the "S" option to save it to a folder. To do it automatically use either "procmail" or "filter" program which comes with elm. Good Luck Ananda -- Ananda M. Kar |(H)458-9754 | URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/ananda/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 13:55:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27783; Mon, 22 May 95 13:55:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23915; Mon, 22 May 95 13:49:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23909; Mon, 22 May 95 13:49:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDeLV-00038BC; Mon, 22 May 95 13:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Re: Attach-file problems Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 10:51:30 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3poaes$7n8@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3poaes$7n8@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 21 May 1995, Michael Smith wrote: > Date: 21 MAY 1995 21:14:04 GMT > From: Michael Smith > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Attach-file problems > > I am having difficulties in attaching a Word file to e-mail as follows: > [etc.] > > I have not had this problem with files saved in text-only format, but I > need to retain the formatting of the document including special > characters. Can anyone help with this? When you send it from your Mac to your Unix account, are you sending it as an ASCII or as a binary file? I suppose you send flat text-only files as ASCII. However, word-processor files often (not always) contain what are 8th-bit-set control characters with respect to the usual 7-bit ASCII used in the US. If you are sending your word-processor file up as an ASCII, the transmission process may be scrambling or discarding some of the imbedded control characters. Try sending it from Mac to Unix as a binary file and see if that makes any difference (if you haven't already tried it). Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 14:29:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29543; Mon, 22 May 95 14:29:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17608; Mon, 22 May 95 14:24:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17602; Mon, 22 May 95 14:24:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDeuq-00038BC; Mon, 22 May 95 14:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Re: Quote longer than reply Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 11:10:26 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3pp4iv$e6r@grape.epix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3pp4iv$e6r@grape.epix.net> Status: O X-Status: On 22 May 1995, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: > Date: 22 MAY 1995 04:39:59 GMT > From: Jonathan and DearOldDad > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: Quote longer than reply > > Kevin Yeung (keviny@HK.Super.Net) wrote: > : Hello everybody, > : I use pine to read/reply news and it works fine until just then I > : realized it didn't let me post when "quote longer than reply." Geez, > : somehow I really had to. How to switch off this ugly feature? Thank you. > : > : Kevin Yeung > : email: keviny@hk.super.net > > Eliminate quotations except for those few lines neccessary to follow the > thread, or as Ralph Waldo Emerson once said: "I hate quotations; Tell me > what you know." This is a good suggestion. At the same time, I wonder whether it is Pine that is fussing about quotation being longer than new material or the mail server. Based on my USENET experiences, I suspect that the problem lies with your mail server rather than with Pine itself. Some mail servers are fussier than others. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 14:51:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00727; Mon, 22 May 95 14:51:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25146; Mon, 22 May 95 14:44:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25140; Mon, 22 May 95 14:44:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDfDF-00038BC; Mon, 22 May 95 14:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: Can I use PINE from a shell account? Date: 22 May 1995 16:11:19 -0500 Message-Id: <3pquln$q8h@woof.cs.utexas.edu> References: <3pmqbd$194@agate.berkeley.edu> Status: O X-Status: [ ryi@uclink2.berkeley.edu (Rick Yi) wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] -> Currently there are no mail readers available on one of my accounts -> and I would like to have access to PINE to read mail. Do I just -> download the binaries and install it in my shell acount or do I need -> root access to be able to install/use PINE. Also, related to that -> question, how do I find out what kind of system I am on? Finger tells -> me what shell I'm using, but not the operating system. Basically I -> need a FAQ on installing pine. Thanks in advance. You definitely don't need "root" access to install Pico, Pine. However you need to have root access if you need to run "imapd" as a daemon. To find out what kind of system you're on type "uname -a" or if available "whatami" IMHO downloading the "pine" and "pico" binaries will work fine for you. Good Luck Ananda -- Ananda M. Kar |(H)458-9754 | URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/ananda/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 16:00:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03652; Mon, 22 May 95 16:00:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19788; Mon, 22 May 95 15:54:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19781; Mon, 22 May 95 15:54:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDgKa-00038DC; Mon, 22 May 95 15:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: Quote longer than reply Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 14:21:50 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: To my knowledge, the filter that determines the length of the quote simply counts the number of lines that begin with ">", compared with those that don't. If you simply replace all of the > with something else such as I have done below, then you can quite easily post something with more included text than new. -Ian On 18 May 1995, Kevin Yeung wrote: ; Hello everybody, ; ; I use pine to read/reply news and it works fine until just then I ; realized it didn't let me post when "quote longer than reply." Geez, ; somehow I really had to. How to switch off this ugly feature? Thank you. ; ; -- ; Kevin Yeung ; email: keviny@hk.super.net ; From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 16:02:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03847; Mon, 22 May 95 16:02:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26612; Mon, 22 May 95 15:54:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26606; Mon, 22 May 95 15:54:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDgKX-00038BC; Mon, 22 May 95 15:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: How can I get a "successful delivered" mail after sending? Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 13:45:52 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: If you add a customized header which says: Return-Receipt-To: to your message, most sendmail programs will send a receipt to any address appearing after the header. If for example, you want the receipt to go to yourself (the usual case, I imagine) then when writing a message, you'd append your e-mail address to the header line, generating something like this: Return-Receipt-To: pobart@access.digex.net If you leave the space after "Return-Receipt-To:" blank, then no receipt is generated. It should be emphasised that this does not work on all systems since not _all_ systems support the Return-Receipt feature. So, if you get a receipt, your message was delivered (but not necessarily read!), but if you do not get a receipt, that means that the message may or may not have been delivered. To add this customized header, go to Setup/Config from the main pine menu and scroll down to where it says "customized hdrs". Add Return-Receipt-To to the list and then Exit. This need only be done once. To use the Return-Receipt feature when writing a message, use the Rich Header command (^R) while the cursor is in the header area of the Compose Message or the Compose Message Reply page. Enter the e-mail address of the person to receive the receipt (most likely you) after the "Return-R:" line. Ian On Sun, 21 May 1995, Paul O. Bartlett wrote: > On Sat, 20 May 1995, Mary Brown wrote: > > > > > Sometimes, I want to get sure that an email message was delivered > > > > to the target host successfully. I've read about a special feature > > > > in some mail systems, where you get a short email back, after your > > > > mail has reached the target host. Can I do this with pine? > > > > Yes you can. Use the Custom Headers. I posted this question about how to > > get a receipt, before, and nobody answered, but I hacked around with it > > and got it to work. I'm not in Pine right now, so I can't tell you exactly > > what I did. But I'll post it if anyone is interested when I check what I > > did ... > > > > Works for most systems, although it didn't work when trying to post a > > newsgroup message in Pine. Maybe it was just that particular newsgroup, > > though. > > Please do post this information, especially as I was the one who > replied that it couldn't be done by Pine. I am aware that it can be done > to some extent by mail-processing front ends such as procmail on Unix. I > still don't see how it could be done for newsgroup postings (or why one > would even want to, most of the time). I would be interested in knowing > of your solution. > > Paul > -------------------------------------------------- > Paul O. Bartlett > P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. > Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 16:40:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05157; Mon, 22 May 95 16:40:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20529; Mon, 22 May 95 16:34:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20523; Mon, 22 May 95 16:34:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDgwJ-00038BC; Mon, 22 May 95 16:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Julie VanHooser Subject: Reply not working Date: 22 May 1995 14:22:29 GMT Message-Id: <3pq6n5$n44@hap.arnold.af.mil> Status: O X-Status: For some reason, pine is stripping the return site and appending the local system name to the end of the From line and therefore replies are not working. For example, when I send a test message from a site called utsi.edu the From line reads: From: Julie VanHooser it should read From: Julie VanHooser So that when I try to reply I get an error message back stating Returned mail: User unknown. What did I do wrong in configuring the mail system? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Julie VanHooser vanhooser@hap.arnold.af.mil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 16:40:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05159; Mon, 22 May 95 16:40:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27370; Mon, 22 May 95 16:34:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27364; Mon, 22 May 95 16:34:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDgx8-00038DC; Mon, 22 May 95 16:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Re: How can I get a "successful delivered" mail after sending? Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 10:45:39 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 21 May 1995, Mary Brown wrote: > Date: Sun, 21 MAY 1995 22:02:53 GMT > From: Mary Brown > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: How can I get a "successful delivered" mail after sending? > > In article , > "Paul O. Bartlett" wrote: > > > [etc.] On Sat, 20 May 1995, Mary Brown wrote: > > [etc.] > > Ok, I checked and this is what I added to the Setup/Configuration: > > customized-hdrs = Return-Receipt-To: maryb@eskimo.com > > That's it. It won't show up in your outgoing message unless you select > Rich Headers. Thanks for responding. As it turns out, someone else beat you to the punch with essentially the same answer. I admit that I was already aware of this technique. However, it works if and ONLY if the receiving mailer is set up to process and use the return-receipt header line. Many totally ignore it, in which case it accomplishes nothing whatever. Although I do not have any figures, I have the hunch that many non-Unix-based mailers do not honor the return-receipt request. Somehow I had the idea, obviously mistakenly, that you were claiming to have found a way to coax/coerce a delivery receipt out of ANY receiving system. Thanks again. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 18:23:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08540; Mon, 22 May 95 18:23:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29154; Mon, 22 May 95 18:15:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pathbox.wustl.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29148; Mon, 22 May 95 18:15:47 -0700 Received: from [128.252.192.2] ([128.252.192.2]) by pathbox.wustl.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA03228 for ; Mon, 22 May 1995 20:16:07 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 20:22:40 -0500 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: trent@pathbox.wustl.edu (T. E. Hemmings) Subject: Odd problem with pine. Status: O X-Status: Hello all... I'v developed a strange problem with pine.... I'm using pine on a Sparc20 with Sol2.3. I've not implemented IMAP. It's only one machine, and I'm just using it as a front end to sendmail 8.6.9 (I know...) Everything's been working fine until last Thursday, when, for some reason pine will not send any user's mail. Outgoing mailjust sits in the /var/tmp directory. It will allow the root account to send mail, however. A user can still go into /var/tmp and use the command... ((/usr/lib/sendmail -oi -oem -t; /bin/rm -f /var/tmp//pinesendXXXXXX) < /var/tmp//pinesendXXXXXX &) to finish off the mail and send it. ( I got that command line from the .pine-debug file.) Comparing the debug files between root and a user sending performing the same actions doesn't show any differences... pine still lies and tells the user that the mail has been sent. I'm assuming since root can send mail still through pine, it probably is a permission problem somewhere... but I have been unable to find it. Thanks in advance for any help... (please reply by e-mail, our news service at WU is not always consistent.) Trent Hemmings Trent E. Hemmings | Washington University School of Medicine Network/Computer Support | Department of Pathology trent@pathbox.wustl.edu | St. Louis, MO VOX: +1 314 362 2677 | FAX +1 324 362 4096 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 19:07:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09401; Mon, 22 May 95 19:07:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29664; Mon, 22 May 95 19:00:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29658; Mon, 22 May 95 19:00:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDjG6-00038DC; Mon, 22 May 95 18:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: pico.. Date: 22 May 1995 14:22:13 -0500 Message-Id: <3pqo95$5n1@oink.cs.utexas.edu> References: <9505201451.AA21837@civeng.unsw.OZ.AU> Status: O X-Status: [ u2139409@civeng.unsw.OZ.AU (Allen Yen Chung Hsu) wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] -> -> Hi all, -> -> I was wondering if its at all possible to just install pico and not pine... Pine and Pico are seperate binaries and it's possible to use PICO for editing purposes. Several people over here use PICO just for editing. Good Luck Ananda -- Ananda M. Kar |(H)458-9754 | URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/ananda/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 19:13:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09635; Mon, 22 May 95 19:13:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23071; Mon, 22 May 95 19:05:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23065; Mon, 22 May 95 19:05:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDjIb-00038DC; Mon, 22 May 95 19:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Malachite Subject: PINE for IRIX Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 11:53:22 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hey all...according to the people at Pine, they don't have a version of PINE compiled for IRIX machines. Does anyone out there have one? Please respond via mail, not via a repost. Thanks a lot! Malachite is....Anye Mercy (mamercy@ucdavis.edu, anye@silica.ucdavis.edu) Ah...it feels so good to be back.... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 19:20:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09787; Mon, 22 May 95 19:20:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29867; Mon, 22 May 95 19:15:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29861; Mon, 22 May 95 19:15:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDjTR-00038DC; Mon, 22 May 95 19:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Quote longer than reply Date: 22 May 1995 18:03:26 GMT Message-Id: <3pqjle$g1g@grape.epix.net> References: <3pp4iv$e6r@grape.epix.net> Status: O X-Status: Paul O. Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) wrote: some stuff and then ... : On 22 May 1995, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: : > Kevin Yeung (keviny@HK.Super.Net) wrote: : > : Hello everybody, : > : I use pine to read/reply news and it works fine until just then I : > : realized it didn't let me post when "quote longer than reply." Geez, : > : somehow I really had to. How to switch off this ugly feature? Thank you. : > : Kevin Yeung : > : email: keviny@hk.super.net : > Eliminate quotations except for those few lines neccessary to follow the : > thread, or as Ralph Waldo Emerson once said: "I hate quotations; Tell me : > what you know." : This is a good suggestion. At the same time, I wonder whether it is : Pine that is fussing about quotation being longer than new material or : the mail server. Based on my USENET experiences, I suspect that the : problem lies with your mail server rather than with Pine itself. Some : mail servers are fussier than others. : Paul No, it's not your mail server, it's PINE. Now I'm not using pine right now, and I could end this message here and say G'day, which if you notice my original response was 3 lines to an 8 line quote, but if I were using pine I would either have to cut out some of the quotes or I would say: well, it's been very nice talking to ya'll and now pine is happy. G'day John (aka DearOldDad) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 19:40:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10262; Mon, 22 May 95 19:40:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00170; Mon, 22 May 95 19:33:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from seldon.apanix.apana.org.au by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00164; Mon, 22 May 95 19:33:39 -0700 Received: (from tonyb@localhost) by seldon.apanix.apana.org.au (8.6.10/8.6.9) id HAA05223; Tue, 23 May 1995 07:47:46 +0930 Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 07:47:45 +0930 (CST) From: tonyb@apanix.apana.org.au To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: unsubscribe pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 19:41:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10301; Mon, 22 May 95 19:41:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23494; Mon, 22 May 95 19:35:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23488; Mon, 22 May 95 19:35:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDjkB-00038DC; Mon, 22 May 95 19:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: varcation reply possible? Date: 22 May 1995 13:34:09 -0500 Message-Id: <3pqlf1$555@oink.cs.utexas.edu> References: <3pqcf8$lq4@eccdb1.pms.ford.com> Status: O X-Status: [ pilutti@mozart.srl.ford.com (Tom Pilutti) wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] -> i'd like to know if pine is able to support an automatic vacation -> reply so that a canned message is sent back to people when they -> send me a message. if it is possible, any pointers would be -> helpful. Most of the UNIX systems support it, you don't need PINE to accomplish this. Simply do the following: Create a file called ".vacation.msg" with a "Subject:" line, like Subject: away from my mail I will not be reading my mail for a while. Your mail regarding "$SUBJECT" will be read when I return Thanks Tom To start vacation, create a .forward file in your home directory containing a line of the form: \username, "|/usr/ucb/vacation username" where username is your login name. Then type in the command: vacation -I To stop vacation, remove the .forward file, or move it to a new name. Ananda -- Ananda M. Kar |(H)458-9754 | URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/ananda/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 21:04:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12332; Mon, 22 May 95 21:04:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01190; Mon, 22 May 95 21:00:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01184; Mon, 22 May 95 21:00:25 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23014; Mon, 22 May 95 21:00:22 -0700 Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 21:00:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Jonathan and DearOldDad Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Quote longer than reply In-Reply-To: <3pqjle$g1g@grape.epix.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Jonathan, You are mistaken. The "quote longer than reply" error msg does NOT come from Pine. But it's not from your mail server either... it's from your nntp server. -teg On 22 May 1995, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: > Paul O. Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) wrote: > some stuff and then ... > : On 22 May 1995, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: > : > Kevin Yeung (keviny@HK.Super.Net) wrote: > : > : Hello everybody, > : > : I use pine to read/reply news and it works fine until just then I > : > : realized it didn't let me post when "quote longer than reply." Geez, > : > : somehow I really had to. How to switch off this ugly feature? Thank you. > : > : Kevin Yeung > : > : email: keviny@hk.super.net > : > Eliminate quotations except for those few lines neccessary to follow the > : > thread, or as Ralph Waldo Emerson once said: "I hate quotations; Tell me > : > what you know." > : This is a good suggestion. At the same time, I wonder whether it is > : Pine that is fussing about quotation being longer than new material or > : the mail server. Based on my USENET experiences, I suspect that the > : problem lies with your mail server rather than with Pine itself. Some > : mail servers are fussier than others. > : Paul > > No, it's not your mail server, it's PINE. Now I'm not using pine right > now, and I could end this message here and say G'day, which if you notice > my original response was 3 lines to an 8 line quote, but if I were using > pine I would either have to cut out some of the quotes or I would say: > > well, > it's > been > very > nice > talking > to > ya'll > and > now > pine > is > happy. > > G'day > John (aka DearOldDad) > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 22:30:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14892; Mon, 22 May 95 22:30:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02292; Mon, 22 May 95 22:25:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02286; Mon, 22 May 95 22:25:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDmST-00038HC; Mon, 22 May 95 22:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Gotcha Using PROCOMM+ and Pine In-Reply-To: "Paul O. Bartlett"'s message of Sun, 21 May 1995 20: 22:16 -0400 Message-Id: References: Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 17:20:22 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article "Paul O. Bartlett" writes: Obviously, what you see ain't what you get. Although I have not found it yet in the PROCOMM documentation, ^_ obviously does not send the desired value (hex 1F, I think) back to the host. Instead, PROCOMM Plus intercepts it and does weird things. Fortunately there is a simple solution involving PROCOMM Plus's keyboard remapping program. If my scenario fits your situation, email me and I'll send instructions on how to do it, rather than take up space here for those not affectd. Pine has anticipated this kind of difficulty and allows one to work around it, by accepting 2 presses of the Escape key in lieu of the Ctrl key in any pine Ctrl-key sequence. Thus, you could invoke your alternate editor by means of Esc Esc _ (Escape Escape underscore). -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 23:01:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15836; Mon, 22 May 95 23:01:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02653; Mon, 22 May 95 22:52:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02647; Mon, 22 May 95 22:52:35 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10644; Mon, 22 May 95 22:52:29 -0700 Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 22:52:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Anne Marie Ryan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: order of fields in header list In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: If you put the reply-to line in customized-hdrs but not in default-composer-hdrs then it will only show up if you type a ^R in the headers. (There are bugs in 3.90 and you would do well to upgrade to 3.91.) Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Fri, 19 May 1995, Anne Marie Ryan wrote: > > > I am using Pine Version 3.90 on an Ultrix 4.3.0 workstation. When > composing a message, I would like to include a Reply-To field by default, > which I know how to do. However, I would prefer that the Reply-To field > is not the first, i.e. top header in the header list but that the To: > field were instead. This is to stop myself putting the target email > address in the Reply-To field since I am used to typing the address > without having to go down a field first. i.e. Is there a way to change > the default order of the fields in the header list when composing a message? > > Thanks > > Anne Ryan (CERN) > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 22 23:16:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16146; Mon, 22 May 95 23:16:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02918; Mon, 22 May 95 23:13:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02912; Mon, 22 May 95 23:13:38 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11064; Mon, 22 May 95 23:13:35 -0700 Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 23:13:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: "R. Russell Neuswanger" Cc: Pine Subject: Re: how to combine address lists? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 22 May 1995, R. Russell Neuswanger wrote: > I have several address lists, with some overlap, that I want to > pour into an overgroup that will get a single nickname. I could go into > my sent-mail, each time I send something to an existing group, and use > the take-address command to add to the overgroup -- if(!) I didn't mind > waiting and could be sure to remember. But is there an efficient way? An address list can have nicknames in the address field, so you can have a list which is made up of other lists, for example list list1, list2 list1 a, b, c list2 d, e, list3, list4, ... The expansion isn't done until you use the list so additions to list1 will be reflected in list when you use it. (but maybe you already knew all that) > Related question: when I send a nonce message to two or three > groups, it seems pine chokes on any overlap (i.e., same name in two > groups). Is there an easy way to de-dup the to: list without going through > setting up an overgroup? The working assumption was that the MTA would do the de-dup'ing of the recipient list so that it wasn't necessary for Pine to attempt it. For example, sendmail will do this for you. What is the nature of the choke? > R. R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Edel sei der Mensch, > Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance Hilfreich und gut! > AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP), LC Denn das allein > Washington, DC 20540-4120 Unterscheidet ihn ... > 202.707.8747 (shared line) -- Goethe > rrne@loc.gov or neuswang@mail.loc.gov > > No teratobibliotic entity avows *my* emanations. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 00:19:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17657; Tue, 23 May 95 00:19:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27569; Tue, 23 May 95 00:16:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27563; Tue, 23 May 95 00:16:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDo8y-00038FC; Tue, 23 May 95 00:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sronk@stim.tec.tn.us (Steve Ronk) Subject: Getting "Can't open /tmp/mail?????" Message Message-Id: <1995May22.123131.49964@msuvx2.memphis.edu> Date: 22 May 95 12:31:31 -0500 Status: O X-Status: I am running Pine on a SUN running Solaris 2.4. The postmaster is receiving the following message from the Mail Delivery Subsystem: mail: /var/mail/sys mail: Cant't open '/tmp/mailAAAa000BS' type: r+ mail: Cannot create dead.letter 550 sys... Can't create output Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions? Thanks for your help. Steve Ronk State Technical Institute Memphis, TN USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 01:59:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20137; Tue, 23 May 95 01:59:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04799; Tue, 23 May 95 01:51:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gate1.internet-eireann.ie by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04793; Tue, 23 May 95 01:51:29 -0700 Received: from dakota.internet-eireann.iedakota.internet-eireann.ie (dakota.internet-eireann.ie [194.9.32.106]) by gate1.internet-eireann.ie (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA14238; Tue, 23 May 1995 09:35:14 +0100 Received: from dakota.internet-eireann.ie by dakota.internet-eireann.iedakota.internet-eireann.ie (5.4R3.00/5.40/1.0) id AA05601; Tue, 23 May 1995 09:28:47 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 09:28:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Feargal Ledwidge To: Steve Ronk Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Getting "Can't open /tmp/mail?????" Message In-Reply-To: <1995May22.123131.49964@msuvx2.memphis.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 22 May 1995, Steve Ronk wrote: > I am running Pine on a SUN running Solaris 2.4. The postmaster is > receiving the following message from the Mail Delivery Subsystem: > > mail: /var/mail/sys > mail: Cant't open '/tmp/mailAAAa000BS' type: r+ > mail: Cannot create dead.letter > 550 sys... Can't create output > > Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions? Thanks for your help. > > Steve Ronk > State Technical Institute > Memphis, TN USA > Check the file permissions of the directiories that pine is trying to write to. Most likely u dont have write permission. Feargal ----------------------------------------------- Feargal Ledwidge UNIX Systems Administration Dakota Packaging Ltd Ireland Voice: Intl+353-88-504-520 Mail: feargal@dakota.internet-eireann.ie ----------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 04:11:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23848; Tue, 23 May 95 04:11:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06071; Tue, 23 May 95 04:01:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06065; Tue, 23 May 95 04:01:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDrfz-00038DC; Tue, 23 May 95 03:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: t9456079@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (John Elliot) Subject: global delete Date: 23 May 1995 09:21:28 GMT Message-Id: <3ps9eo$ksk@aggedor.rmit.EDU.AU> Status: O X-Status: Using the "tin" programme I can do a global delete of messages after scanning the subjects, useing the catchup command. Has pine got a similar function ?. Cannot seem to within the configuration if it exists ?. -- +---------------------------------------+ | John Elliott RMIT AUSTRALIA | | t9456079@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au | | Amateur VK3CVF | +---------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 04:37:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24244; Tue, 23 May 95 04:37:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01103; Tue, 23 May 95 04:25:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rs8.loc.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01097; Tue, 23 May 95 04:25:43 -0700 Received: by rs8.loc.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA06729; Tue, 23 May 1995 07:25:42 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 07:25:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "R. Russell Neuswanger" To: Steve Hubert Cc: Pine Subject: Re: how to combine address lists? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 22 May 1995, Steve Hubert wrote: > An address list can have nicknames in the address field, so you can have > a list which is made up of other lists, for example > > list list1, list2 > > list1 a, b, c > list2 d, e, list3, list4, ... > > The expansion isn't done until you use the list so additions to list1 > will be reflected in list when you use it. (but maybe you already knew > all that) Well, let's say I expected it, having dealt with a lesser mailer internally. > > The working assumption was that the MTA would do the de-dup'ing of the > recipient list so that it wasn't necessary for Pine to attempt it. For > example, sendmail will do this for you. What is the nature of the choke? > MTA? Mail Transport Something? What is it, & where? The choke appears to be in pine: I type a list of nicknames of lists into the TO: field, and when I cursor down, it fills up with error messages. I've only tried it once, and it looked such a mess to clean up that I forwent the message -- or rather, sent it to one group, and then forwarded it (with deletion of headers) to each other one separately out of my sent-mail. Is there any problem, in your example, if e and list3 are both themselves nicknames? Or could I have fouled up somehow? (Do you need to use enter rather than down-arrow to expand, for instance?) R. R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Edel sei der Mensch, Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance Hilfreich und gut! AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP), LC Denn das allein Washington, DC 20540-4120 Unterscheidet ihn ... 202.707.8747 (shared line) -- Goethe rrne@loc.gov or neuswang@mail.loc.gov No teratobibliotic entity avows *my* emanations. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 05:21:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25671; Tue, 23 May 95 05:21:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01560; Tue, 23 May 95 05:01:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01554; Tue, 23 May 95 05:01:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDscS-00038KC; Tue, 23 May 95 04:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phl@cyways.com (Peter H. Lemieux) Subject: Why is my name in quotes? Date: 23 May 1995 02:21:48 GMT Message-Id: <3prgrt$8i5@sundog.tiac.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O X-Status: Whenever I use Pine, my name appears in quotation marks as "Peter H. Lemieux." I've tried setting the personal-name field and leaving it blank and get the same result. My entry in /etc/passwd doesn't have quotes either. Other people in my firm don't get this. Anybody know why? Thanks! Peter ----- Peter H. Lemieux, President cyways, inc. Voice: (800) 5-cyways 203 Arlington Street Foreign: +1 (617) 924-7991 Watertown, Massachusetts 02172-2036 USA Fax: +1 (617) 926-8440 Your source for total Internet solutions (tm) Home: http://www.cyways.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 05:36:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26043; Tue, 23 May 95 05:36:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07141; Tue, 23 May 95 05:22:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07135; Tue, 23 May 95 05:22:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDsuw-00038HC; Tue, 23 May 95 05:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andreas Reimann Subject: 'Catch-up' function at pine Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 10:27:39 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi there, just a short question about the pine program: Is there a possibility to 'catch up' (=mark all articles of a newsgroup as read) a newsgroup? If yes, I would be happy if someone could send me how to do by email!!! Thanks, Andy _______________________________________________________________ Andreas Reimann email: reimann@informatik.uni-muenchen.de Rauschbergstr. 2a 81825 Muenchen .....Wer fuer alles offen ist, kann nicht ganz dicht sein!..... _______________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 06:03:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26720; Tue, 23 May 95 06:03:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02011; Tue, 23 May 95 05:36:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02005; Tue, 23 May 95 05:36:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDt8d-00038DC; Tue, 23 May 95 05:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lzhang@uoguelph.ca (Larry Chang) Subject: is there a FAQ on pine? Date: 22 May 1995 22:38:01 GMT Message-Id: <3pr3o9$s06@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> Status: O X-Status: is there a FAQ on pine? Thanks. Larry. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 07:29:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28732; Tue, 23 May 95 07:29:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03291; Tue, 23 May 95 07:07:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03269; Tue, 23 May 95 07:06:53 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 23 May 1995 15:03:19 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id PAA20260; Tue, 23 May 1995 15:02:08 +0100 Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 15:02:07 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: "Peter H. Lemieux" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Why is my name in quotes? In-Reply-To: <3prgrt$8i5@sundog.tiac.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Simple. Only a certain selection of characters are allowed in names according to RFC 822. Yours contains an "illegal" character (the full stop) and so must be enclosed in quotes to make it acceptable. Change your personal name information to "Peter H Lemieux" and everything should be wonderful for you. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On 23 May 1995, Peter H. Lemieux wrote: > Whenever I use Pine, my name appears in quotation marks as "Peter H. > Lemieux." I've tried setting the personal-name field and leaving it > blank and get the same result. My entry in /etc/passwd doesn't have quotes > either. Other people in my firm don't get this. Anybody know why? > > Thanks! > Peter > > ----- > Peter H. Lemieux, President > cyways, inc. Voice: (800) 5-cyways > 203 Arlington Street Foreign: +1 (617) 924-7991 > Watertown, Massachusetts 02172-2036 USA Fax: +1 (617) 926-8440 > Your source for total Internet solutions (tm) Home: http://www.cyways.com > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 07:44:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29093; Tue, 23 May 95 07:44:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08560; Tue, 23 May 95 07:20:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from poblano.near.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08554; Tue, 23 May 95 07:20:29 -0700 Received: from copper.near.net by poblano.near.net id aa26735; 23 May 95 10:20 EDT To: "Peter H. Lemieux" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, mooers@near.net Subject: Re: Why is my name in quotes? In-Reply-To: Your message of "23 May 1995 02:21:48 GMT." <3prgrt$8i5@sundog.tiac.net> Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 10:16:37 -0400 From: Charlotte Mooers Message-Id: <9505231020.aa26735@poblano.near.net> Status: O X-Status: You should get hold of the standard for the format of Internet messages, rfc822. which is available from internic.ds.net, in the category RFC. This standard specifies that the explanatory username, if it is in an address field, must not contain a period, unless the whole explanatory phrase is enclosed in parentheses. The reason is that the period is an important, meaningful symbol in the machine-readable address. For example, the following To fields are okay: To: rjones@alpha.beta.widgets.com To: Robert Jones To: R Jones BUT the following To field is not okay: To: R. Jones WRONG!!! RFC822 requires that the field be rewritten as: To: "R. Jones" OKAY!!! This rule is designed to let the software parse the part of the address field that is not enclosed in parentheses. The rule didn't have to be this way, and it is not an intuitively understandable or graceful design, but it IS a standard. Be glad you have an automatic mail agent that puts your address in the correct form. ---Charlotte Mooers Postmaster, NEARNET > Date: 23 May 1995 02:21:48 GMT > From: "Peter H. Lemieux" > Subject: Why is my name in quotes? > Whenever I use Pine, my name appears in quotation marks as "Peter H. > Lemieux." I've tried setting the personal-name field and leaving it > blank and get the same result. My entry in /etc/passwd doesn't have quotes > either. Other people in my firm don't get this. Anybody know why? > > Thanks! > Peter > > ----- > Peter H. Lemieux, President > cyways, inc. Voice: (800) 5-cyways > 203 Arlington Street Foreign: +1 (617) 924-7991 > Watertown, Massachusetts 02172-2036 USA Fax: +1 (617) 926-8440 > Your source for total Internet solutions (tm) Home: http://www.cyways.com > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 08:00:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29493; Tue, 23 May 95 08:00:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08923; Tue, 23 May 95 07:47:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08917; Tue, 23 May 95 07:47:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDvA6-00038DC; Tue, 23 May 95 07:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: l38056@alfa.ist.utl.pt (CIISTiado) Subject: Re: Using Pine for News Date: 23 May 1995 14:34:22 -0000 Message-Id: <3psrpe$h62@alfa.ist.utl.pt> References: <3pme6i$t9a@silver.scs.unr.edu> Status: O X-Status: Steve Buehler (buehler@scs.unr.edu) wrote: : Regarding the previous post, I changed the configuration area of nntp-server : to tin [], but it doesn't seem to be working. Tin is the program I use : to access my newsgroups. I don't use pine to read my news (I use tin, like you) and I think that you should know the name of your nntpserver. For instance, I'm in alfa.ist.utl.pt and my nntpserver is news.ist.utl.pt. The nntpserver is normally (?) a machine name,not a program. You should call you system administrator and ask him what is your nntpserver. Or while starting tin, look to the "connecting to ..." that apears on the startup (in my tin it does...) Hope it helps. Good luck. |CIISTiado - Antonio Augusto Gaspar Lourenco - l38056@alfa.ist.utl.pt |Informatic Centre, Superior Techical Institut, Tecnical University, Lisbon |Electrotecnic and Computer Engineering - Branch of )|( | Telecomunications and Electronics PORTUGAL (o o) |--Indonesia is killing innocent people in East Timor----------ooO-(_)-Ooo-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 08:30:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00738; Tue, 23 May 95 08:30:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09489; Tue, 23 May 95 08:18:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from TECVAX.STIM.TEC.TN.US by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09483; Tue, 23 May 95 08:18:15 -0700 Received: from MR.STIM.TEC.TN.US by TECVAX.STIM.TEC.TN.US (PMDF V4.3-7 #7181) id <01HQU7PH6J8W8WY36B@TECVAX.STIM.TEC.TN.US>; Tue, 23 May 1995 10:17:52 CDT Received: with PMDF-MR; Tue, 23 May 1995 16:17:47 CDT Mr-Received: by mta STIM; Relayed; Tue, 23 May 1995 16:17:47 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Disclose-Recipients: prohibited Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 10:17:00 -0500 (CDT) From: STEVE RONK 383-4432 Subject: Re: Getting "Can't open /tmp/mail?????" Message To: feargal@dakota.internet-eireann.ie Cc: pine-info Message-Id: <01HQU7PI1CFQ8WY36B@MR.STIM.TEC.TN.US> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Posting-Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 10:17:00 -0500 (CDT) Importance: normal Priority: normal X400-Mts-Identifier: [;74716132505991/186706@TECVAX] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Status: O X-Status: I had already checked the file permissions because, just as you thought, that is what the problem looks like. After much research and trying different things, I decided to reinstall sendmail.cf this morning. Everything is working perfectly now. Several months ago I upgraded sendmail, but I must not have upgraded sendmail.cf. Thanks for your help. Steve Ronk State Technical Institute > On 22 May 1995, Steve Ronk wrote: > > > I am running Pine on a SUN running Solaris 2.4. The postmaster is > > receiving the following message from the Mail Delivery Subsystem: > > > > mail: /var/mail/sys > > mail: Cant't open '/tmp/mailAAAa000BS' type: r+ > > mail: Cannot create dead.letter > > 550 sys... Can't create output > > > > Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions? Thanks for your help. > > > > Steve Ronk > > State Technical Institute > > Memphis, TN USA > > > > Check the file permissions of the directiories that pine is trying to > write to. Most likely u dont have write permission. > > Feargal > > > > ----------------------------------------------- > Feargal Ledwidge > UNIX Systems Administration > Dakota Packaging Ltd > Ireland > > Voice: Intl+353-88-504-520 > Mail: feargal@dakota.internet-eireann.ie > ----------------------------------------------- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 09:17:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03164; Tue, 23 May 95 09:17:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05436; Tue, 23 May 95 09:03:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05430; Tue, 23 May 95 09:03:50 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20961; Tue, 23 May 95 09:03:48 -0700 Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 09:03:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: "R. Russell Neuswanger" Cc: Pine Subject: Re: how to combine address lists? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 23 May 1995, R. Russell Neuswanger wrote: > On Mon, 22 May 1995, Steve Hubert wrote: > > The working assumption was that the MTA would do the de-dup'ing of the > > recipient list so that it wasn't necessary for Pine to attempt it. For > > example, sendmail will do this for you. What is the nature of the choke? > > > MTA? Mail Transport Something? What is it, & where? Agent. It is the program that transports the mail from one end to the other, as opposed to a Mail User Agent (like Pine). However, it sounds like you're never getting to the MTA, so the problem is in pine or your address book. > The choke appears to be in pine: I type a list of nicknames of > lists into the TO: field, and when I cursor down, it fills up with error > messages. I've only tried it once, and it looked such a mess to clean up > that I forwent the message -- or rather, sent it to one group, and then > forwarded it (with deletion of headers) to each other one separately out > of my sent-mail. > Is there any problem, in your example, if e and list3 are both > themselves nicknames? Or could I have fouled up somehow? (Do you need to > use enter rather than down-arrow to expand, for instance?) Should be no problem with e and list3 being nicknames, or down-arrow. There is a problem if there is a loop in the lists. For example: list list1, list2 list1 list3, list4 list3 list1 would be a problem because list1 refers to list3 which refers to list1... The loop might involve more than two lists, too. The lists may be nested arbitrarily deep but there can't be any loops or you'll get an error. If none of this explains the problem, feel free to send me an address book (as an attachment) that exhibits the problem and I'll see if I can understand it. Thanks. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle > R. R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Edel sei der Mensch, > Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance Hilfreich und gut! > AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP), LC Denn das allein > Washington, DC 20540-4120 Unterscheidet ihn ... > 202.707.8747 (shared line) -- Goethe > rrne@loc.gov or neuswang@mail.loc.gov > > No teratobibliotic entity avows *my* emanations. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 09:22:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03378; Tue, 23 May 95 09:22:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05768; Tue, 23 May 95 09:09:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pogo.den.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05762; Tue, 23 May 95 09:09:39 -0700 Received: by pogo.den.mmc.com (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17332; Tue, 23 May 95 10:07:38 -0600 Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 10:07:37 -0600 (MDT) From: Michael S Hartman To: CIISTiado Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using Pine for News In-Reply-To: <3psrpe$h62@alfa.ist.utl.pt> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Steve, I use tin for newsgroups also, but i set my nntp server to news2. Try that. Mike Hartman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 09:49:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04712; Tue, 23 May 95 09:49:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06385; Tue, 23 May 95 09:37:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06379; Tue, 23 May 95 09:37:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDwvZ-00038HC; Tue, 23 May 95 09:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: buehler@scs.unr.edu (Steve Buehler) Subject: Re: Turning off Prompt in Unix Pine Date: 21 May 1995 03:46:06 GMT Message-Id: <3pmd1u$stf@silver.scs.unr.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: I would advise you to go to the setup portion of Pine and then goto to config. Enable or disable the things you wish enabled or disabled. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 09:50:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04790; Tue, 23 May 95 09:50:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11214; Tue, 23 May 95 09:37:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11208; Tue, 23 May 95 09:37:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDwvk-00038IC; Tue, 23 May 95 09:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: buehler@scs.unr.edu (Steve Buehler) Subject: Using Pine for News Date: 21 May 1995 04:05:38 GMT Message-Id: <3pme6i$t9a@silver.scs.unr.edu> Status: O X-Status: Regarding the previous post, I changed the configuration area of nntp-server to tin [], but it doesn't seem to be working. Tin is the program I use to access my newsgroups. -Steve From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 09:52:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04879; Tue, 23 May 95 09:52:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06377; Tue, 23 May 95 09:37:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06371; Tue, 23 May 95 09:37:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDwvg-00038FC; Tue, 23 May 95 09:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: buehler@scs.unr.edu (Steve Buehler) Subject: Using Pine for News Date: 21 May 1995 03:54:25 GMT Message-Id: <3pmdhh$stf@silver.scs.unr.edu> Status: O X-Status: Before we begin, I would like to inform you that I have read the documention entirely. I cannont seem to figure out how to use Pine to make posts to my newsgroups. I'm sure there are some properties I must alter in the Pine Setup/Config area, but I do not know what. I am a rather experience computer user, etc, but I cannot seem to figure out this one detail. When I attempt to send posts to my newsgroup, Pine replys that my newsgroup is not validated or something similiar. In the headers area, I press ^R to bring up the advanced header. Under the newsgroup area, I type alt.test to make a test post to the alt.test newgroup, but it fails. Please reply via post or e-mail as soon as you read this, assuming you have the answer. -Steve Buehler From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 10:14:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05564; Tue, 23 May 95 10:14:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11677; Tue, 23 May 95 10:03:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pogo.den.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11671; Tue, 23 May 95 10:03:14 -0700 Received: by pogo.den.mmc.com (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19344; Tue, 23 May 95 11:03:11 -0600 Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 11:03:10 -0600 (MDT) From: Michael S Hartman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How do i access a www page???? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Im new on the net, how do i access something like : http://www.hk.super.net/~palace/ I heard this is a really cool place! Any help??? MIke Hartman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 10:39:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06820; Tue, 23 May 95 10:39:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07426; Tue, 23 May 95 10:27:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pogo.den.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07420; Tue, 23 May 95 10:27:46 -0700 Received: by pogo.den.mmc.com (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20130; Tue, 23 May 95 11:27:11 -0600 Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 11:27:11 -0600 (MDT) From: Michael S Hartman To: Steve Buehler Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using Pine for News In-Reply-To: <3pmdhh$stf@silver.scs.unr.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Stevt, you must set your nntp server to your news server. Mine is news2. Mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 10:50:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07363; Tue, 23 May 95 10:50:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07708; Tue, 23 May 95 10:37:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay3.UU.NET by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07702; Tue, 23 May 95 10:37:36 -0700 Received: from uucp3.UU.NET by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP id QQyqzm16662; Tue, 23 May 1995 13:36:41 -0400 Received: from paradim1.UUCP by uucp3.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Tue, 23 May 1995 13:36:30 -0400 Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 19:27:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: Larry Chang Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: is there a FAQ on pine? In-Reply-To: <3pr3o9$s06@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > is there a FAQ on pine? I downloaded one from ftp.cac.washington.edu under pine/doc. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jean Pierre LeJacq Quoin, Inc Suite 200 North local voice: +1.203.295.0874 124 Mount Auburn Street voice: +1.617.576.5885 Cambridge, MA 02138 fax: +1.617.576.5876 U.S.A. email: jplejacq@oops.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 11:06:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08129; Tue, 23 May 95 11:06:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12707; Tue, 23 May 95 10:53:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cobalt.middlebury.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12701; Tue, 23 May 95 10:53:28 -0700 Received: by cobalt.middlebury.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA10202; Tue, 23 May 1995 13:53:55 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 13:53:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mark G. Pyfrom" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: lists From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 11:08:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08215; Tue, 23 May 95 11:08:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08172; Tue, 23 May 95 10:57:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08166; Tue, 23 May 95 10:57:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDyBu-00038FC; Tue, 23 May 95 10:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gerdw@cougar.vut.edu.au (David Gerard) Subject: How to shell out? Date: 23 May 1995 14:27:51 +1000 Message-Id: <3pro87$pp0@cougar.vut.edu.au> Status: O X-Status: I'm using Pine 3.90 under SunOS Unix. I don't know how to shell out. This is needed for when I get a sudden talk request (it's policy that I answer these). I looked, honest ... yours in cluelessness, -- '... "Bother," said Pooh as he struggled with his condom.' Please email important followups -- crappy and constipated newsfeed. Rev Dr David Gerard VUT SRC Footscray NoName +61 (3) 9688 4856 gerdw@cougar.vut.edu.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 11:08:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08238; Tue, 23 May 95 11:08:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12781; Tue, 23 May 95 10:57:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12775; Tue, 23 May 95 10:57:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDyBr-00038DC; Tue, 23 May 95 10:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Larry Brinton Subject: Re: Why is my name in quotes? Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 00:08:52 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3prgrt$8i5@sundog.tiac.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3prgrt$8i5@sundog.tiac.net> Status: O X-Status: Because you have a special character in your name... the period after the H. Remove the dot and the quotes go away. ...Larry On 23 May 1995, Peter H. Lemieux wrote: > Whenever I use Pine, my name appears in quotation marks as "Peter H. > Lemieux." I've tried setting the personal-name field and leaving it > blank and get the same result. My entry in /etc/passwd doesn't have quotes > either. Other people in my firm don't get this. Anybody know why? > > Thanks! > Peter From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 11:10:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08362; Tue, 23 May 95 11:10:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12793; Tue, 23 May 95 10:57:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12785; Tue, 23 May 95 10:57:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sDyBx-00038IC; Tue, 23 May 95 10:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: Attach-file problems Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 22:06:50 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3poaes$7n8@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Status: O X-Status: Michael, Pine and MIME are usually pretty good about not corrupting information. I suspect that the problem may lie elsewhere. The first thing to check is to make sure that you really saved the mac file in a format that MS Word for Windows can read. One of the numerous available formats for the mac is "MS Word for Windows 2.0". This format is easily read by an IBM PC or clone and is what we use when transferring files from one system to the other via disk. If you haven't already done so, try saving your file in that format and then send it off to your friend by the procedure you described below. If that doesn't work, try binhex-ing the Word-for-Windows document before sending it off. That will convert the file from binary to ASCII, which should preserve it from being corrupted by either sz or pine. If you do this, you can even skip the sz phase entirely by pasting the contents of the binhex'd file (as read by teachtext) directly into an outgoing mail message from your mac. Your friend will have to find a way to un-binhex the file on his/her PC. I am afraid that I really don't know what applications are available for the PC to do this, but I suspect that there are some. Note that many of the fonts on macs and PCs are copyrighted (or whatever) and have no direct equivalent on the other system. Some of your special characters may not have a direct equivalent on the PC. Since Microsoft writes Word for both systems as well as Windows for the PC, MS Word 6.x for the mac comes with some of the Windows fonts as part of the application, but I seriously doubt that Word for Windows comes with mac fonts as part of it. As a result, it may be much easier to send files from PC to mac than the other way around. Good Luck! Ian On 21 May 1995, Michael Smith wrote: > I am having difficulties in attaching a Word file to e-mail as follows: > 1) The document is saved in 'word' format, supposedly interchangeable > between Mac and PC platforms. Note: the doc has also been saved in > various windows formats. 2) Document is sent "sz" from my Mac w/ Z-term > to my Unix account. 3) File is attached to mail using control key in > Pine. 4) Receiver is unable to translate file; i.e. the file will not > open in Word. > > I have not had this problem with files saved in text-only format, but I > need to retain the formatting of the document including special > characters. Can anyone help with this? > > > > -- > ***Michael Smith***mksmith@u.washington.edu*** > PGP Key (and other stuff) available at: > http://weber.u.washington.edu/~mksmith/ or: > ftp.u.washington.edu public/mksmith/PGPKey.asc > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 11:37:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09517; Tue, 23 May 95 11:37:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13506; Tue, 23 May 95 11:30:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13500; Tue, 23 May 95 11:30:53 -0700 Received: from trex (trex.kwantlen.bc.ca) by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA23335; Tue, 23 May 1995 11:30:22 -0700 Received: by trex (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA23886; Tue, 23 May 1995 11:30:21 +0800 Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 11:30:20 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dumaresq X-Sender: david@trex To: David Gerard Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to shell out? In-Reply-To: <3pro87$pp0@cougar.vut.edu.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 990 Status: O X-Status: > I'm using Pine 3.90 under SunOS Unix. I don't know how to shell out. > This is needed for when I get a sudden talk request (it's policy that > I answer these). > > I looked, honest ... > Sure, that's what they all say :^) You should be able to use the suspend key. CTRL-Z That will put you at the unix prompt, to return to pine type fg and press return. (that means foreground, since you have stopped pine with the suspend command) To look at your list of active jobs under the current shell, type jobs at the unix prompt. Have a nice day! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 11:47:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09864; Tue, 23 May 95 11:47:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09191; Tue, 23 May 95 11:39:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rs8.loc.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09185; Tue, 23 May 95 11:39:11 -0700 Received: by rs8.loc.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA80900; Tue, 23 May 1995 14:39:10 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 14:39:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "R. Russell Neuswanger" To: Steve Hubert Cc: Pine Subject: Re: how to combine address lists? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 23 May 1995, Steve Hubert wrote: > > Is there any problem, in your example, if e and list3 are both > > themselves nicknames? Or could I have fouled up somehow? (Do you need to > > use enter rather than down-arrow to expand, for instance?) > > Should be no problem with e and list3 being nicknames, or down-arrow. > There is a problem if there is a loop in the lists. For example: > > list list1, list2 > > list1 list3, list4 > > list3 list1 > > would be a problem because list1 refers to list3 which refers to > list1... The loop might involve more than two lists, too. The lists may > be nested arbitrarily deep but there can't be any loops or you'll get an > error. > Steve Hubert > Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle There must have been a loop in there somewhere, since edited out; I can't seem to make it do it again, even by combining the longest lists into one TO: field. But it's still good to know what to avoid, and how. For this help much thanks! R. R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Edel sei der Mensch, Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance Hilfreich und gut! AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP), LC Denn das allein Washington, DC 20540-4120 Unterscheidet ihn ... 202.707.8747 (shared line) -- Goethe rrne@loc.gov or neuswang@mail.loc.gov No teratobibliotic entity avows *my* emanations. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 13:21:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14771; Tue, 23 May 95 13:21:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15782; Tue, 23 May 95 13:15:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15770; Tue, 23 May 95 13:15:13 -0700 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA04094; Tue, 23 May 1995 13:15:09 -0700 Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 13:15:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: News Reading To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: When Pine attaches to a Newsserver...what does the NNTP conversation look like? I am trying to help a developer with his NNTP server, yet cannot get PINE to communicate with it. It's probably something the NNTP server is missing, but I would appreciate knowing what it is. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 14:27:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17653; Tue, 23 May 95 14:27:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12794; Tue, 23 May 95 14:18:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12788; Tue, 23 May 95 14:18:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sE1Ih-00038HC; Tue, 23 May 95 14:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bruce@rpl.regina.sk.ca (Bruce Welch) Subject: Re: How to shell out? Date: 23 May 1995 13:20:20 -0600 Message-Id: <3ptchk$44e@athena.rpl.regina.sk.ca> References: <3pro87$pp0@cougar.vut.edu.au> Status: O X-Status: In article , David Dumaresq wrote: >Sure, that's what they all say :^) > >You should be able to use the suspend key. CTRL-Z But first, you have to go into the configuration and "enable suspend". -- "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." -- this signature being renovated ... excuse the mess From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 14:41:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18533; Tue, 23 May 95 14:41:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17675; Tue, 23 May 95 14:38:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17669; Tue, 23 May 95 14:38:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sE1by-00038FC; Tue, 23 May 95 14:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: is there a FAQ on pine? Date: 23 May 1995 15:34:36 GMT Message-Id: <3psvac$a78@grape.epix.net> References: <3pr3o9$s06@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> Status: O X-Status: Larry Chang (lzhang@uoguelph.ca) wrote: : is there a FAQ on pine? : Thanks. : Larry. try this; not only the faq, but all sortsa' good stuff on pine ... http://www.cac.washington.edu:1180/pine/ hope this helps BYE John (aka DearOldDad) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 16:14:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22529; Tue, 23 May 95 16:14:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15271; Tue, 23 May 95 16:08:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15265; Tue, 23 May 95 16:08:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sE31b-00038HC; Tue, 23 May 95 16:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: st92bpfv@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Neil Harkins) Subject: HELP: pine not using FQDN for reply-to address? Date: 23 May 1995 19:42:42 GMT Message-Id: <3ptdri$7be@noc2.drexel.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hello, we are using Pine 3.91 on a SOLARIS 2.4 Sparc 20, which is using smail3.1.29 as the transport. Whenever I send a message to a person on the system, it fills in @hostname instead of @hostname.domain, and does this in the reply to field also, so that mail is going out as if were from user@hostname instead of using user@hostname.domain. Therefore mail fails to return to me properly. ARGH. `hostname` returns the hostname `domainname` returns the domain name Where does pine look to find out the Fully Qualified Domain Name? -Neil Harkins st92bpfv@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 16:32:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23123; Tue, 23 May 95 16:32:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19931; Tue, 23 May 95 16:28:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19925; Tue, 23 May 95 16:28:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sE3Lo-00038IC; Tue, 23 May 95 16:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ac079@zimmer.csufresno.edu (Alex Chandra) Subject: Q about sig. file Message-Id: Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 21:26:35 GMT Status: O X-Status: I have problem with my sig. file. The problem is when I foward massages the sig file is always at the top of mssg but if I reply the mssg at the bottom. I already change the configuration at the main menu, the sig. file at the bottom Could someone help me. Thanks -- ''' (O O) #---oOO----(_)------------# | Alex Chandra | | ac079@csufresno.edu | #-----------------oOO-----# |__|__| || || ooO Ooo From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 17:05:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24830; Tue, 23 May 95 17:05:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16354; Tue, 23 May 95 16:58:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16348; Tue, 23 May 95 16:58:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sE3q2-00038RC; Tue, 23 May 95 16:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gerland@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jim Gerland) Subject: How to save mail to a folder in a different mail file????? Date: 23 May 1995 17:48:28 GMT Message-Id: <3pt75c$b4o@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu> Status: O X-Status: Here's my setup: On my account which is housed on a timesharing machine I have my mail/ directory with all my mail folders. I am using my own Sun workstation so I;d like to be able to utilize the available space on it. I have setup a Folder-collection on it with no problems and can read the info stored there. I can also save messages from my collection to my collection if I use the ^T feature to list my folders in the collection after I issue the 's'ave command. My problem is that I can't figure out how to save to my collection into a new folder. Anyone know the syntax or steps? Thanks, Jim... -- Jim Gerland - Manager, Network Information Services University at Buffalo Academic Services, Computing & Information Technology Buffalo, NY 14260 716.645.3557 Work 716.645.3734 FAX gerland@acsu.buffalo.edu URL: http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~gerland From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 18:26:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27071; Tue, 23 May 95 18:26:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21708; Tue, 23 May 95 18:13:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21702; Tue, 23 May 95 18:13:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sE4ya-00038IC; Tue, 23 May 95 18:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) Subject: Re: Return-Receipt-To: A word of caution Date: 23 May 1995 23:31:20 GMT Message-Id: <3ptr88$sh2@news.primenet.com> References: Status: O X-Status: G. Harney (gharney@clark.net) wrote: >Was following the recent thread on getting a Rtrn Rcpt for email that >one sends. I decided to give it a shot. Works great, but; >I just sent an email off to a mailing list, and a min later I am getting >bombarded with return receipts from the mailing list recipients! I know >this list has about 1000+ members, I am wondering if I will be getting >that many rtrn rcpts. Oh well, live and learn. :) And if any of the list recipient's email/Internet provider charges extra for sending Internet mail, those people will have to pay for your return receipt. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 18:39:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27387; Tue, 23 May 95 18:39:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18008; Tue, 23 May 95 18:23:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18002; Tue, 23 May 95 18:23:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sE59o-00038IC; Tue, 23 May 95 18:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: What is core.pine and why is it so large? Date: 23 May 1995 18:46:24 -0500 Message-Id: <3pts4g$82h@woof.cs.utexas.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: [ rosss@PrimeNet.Com (Scott Ross) wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] -> Thanks for the reply, that's a big load off of my shoulders. I get -> [.......................] -> Error since I haven't tried to investigate it. Again, thanks for the -> reply. Put the following line in your ".cshrc" file and even if PINE crashes the size of core file generated will be 0. limit coredumpsize 0 Remember "core" files are generated whenever a program crashes. So it holds for Pine, Mosaic.......and if you are an ordinary user, you don't need to worry about core files. Good Luck Ananda -- Ananda M. Kar |(H)458-9754 | URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/ananda/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 19:56:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29159; Tue, 23 May 95 19:56:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22883; Tue, 23 May 95 19:45:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay3.UU.NET by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22877; Tue, 23 May 95 19:45:10 -0700 Received: from uucp3.UU.NET by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP id QQyraw02382; Tue, 23 May 1995 22:44:17 -0400 Received: from paradim1.UUCP by uucp3.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Tue, 23 May 1995 22:44:18 -0400 Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 21:36:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: David Gerard Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to shell out? In-Reply-To: <3pro87$pp0@cougar.vut.edu.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 23 May 1995, David Gerard wrote: > I'm using Pine 3.90 under SunOS Unix. I don't know how to shell out. You first need to enable-suspend in your configuration. Then ^Z will suspend pine. If that doesn't work, suspending may have been disabled by your system administrator. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jean Pierre LeJacq Quoin, Inc Suite 200 North local voice: +1.203.295.0874 124 Mount Auburn Street voice: +1.617.576.5885 Cambridge, MA 02138 fax: +1.617.576.5876 U.S.A. email: jplejacq@oops.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 23 22:59:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03549; Tue, 23 May 95 22:59:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22103; Tue, 23 May 95 22:49:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22097; Tue, 23 May 95 22:49:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sE9Bw-00038RC; Tue, 23 May 95 22:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roberto Allen Subject: You can't answer this Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 20:53:10 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: You can't reply to me using the Reply feature in Pine, because if you try, the message will get sent to rallen@city.ba.k12.md.us instead of rallen@knight.city.ba.k12.md.us. (Try it!) Does anyone know where this information is stored? There's nothing like that in my pine.conf file. Should there be a line like Reply-To-Host=knight.city.ba.k12.md.us? Is there something like that in another file? We are a new site and are running Pine 3.91. Thank you for replying (or at least trying). --Roberto From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 01:04:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06514; Wed, 24 May 95 01:04:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26393; Wed, 24 May 95 00:42:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26387; Wed, 24 May 95 00:42:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEB0Y-00038HC; Wed, 24 May 95 00:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Moshe Segal Subject: Legal status of Pc-Pine? Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 01:31:29 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I recently downloaded the MSDOS version of Pine (pcpine_f.zip. I don't have my own network, and access E-mail through my Unix account. The only reason I wanted it was for the DOS version of the Pico editor, to use as my message editor in conjunction with the Blue Wave Offline Mail Reader. Those word-processing programs I would have chosen are too big to fit in memory, and the two alternatives, TED3 (The editor that comes with BW) and MSDOS's editor do not support the word-wrap, which leves me to worry about new lines while losing my train of thought while I write. Now that I have it, this is my question: I saw no documentation, and no license or registration form. What status does PC-Pine have? And also, since I deleted all files except Pico.exe, what would be the legal difference. Even freeware usually has some stipulation, but I am unclear of what I am now expected to do. Please let me know. Thank you very much. You're not the only one who's made mistakes Moshe E. SEgal But they're the only things 1336 Cory Drive That you can truly call your own Dayton, Oh 45406 Some people hope for a miracle cure, s010mes@discover.wright.edu Some people just accept the world as it is. (513) 279-0438 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 02:10:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08474; Wed, 24 May 95 02:10:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24862; Wed, 24 May 95 02:02:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24856; Wed, 24 May 95 02:02:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sECBo-00038IC; Wed, 24 May 95 01:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Larry Corsa Subject: Address Book Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 20:16:27 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to send mail to an 80 address address book but not show the entire list in the "To:" field? Thanks, Larry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 03:23:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10100; Wed, 24 May 95 03:23:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27991; Wed, 24 May 95 03:07:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27985; Wed, 24 May 95 03:07:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEDHq-00038DC; Wed, 24 May 95 03:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roland@fast.net Subject: Mail folder repair/rebuild - is it possible? Date: 24 May 1995 03:50:17 GMT Message-Id: <3puadp$3di@nn.fast.net> Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to reconstruct Pine mail folders and headers? While extracting/saving some messages from a large archive file, my system crashed and now I can't open the message folder. The folder file is intact and I can read it fine as text, but Pine chokes and is unable to open it. Pine just reutrns the message "Folder xxx reopened" where xxx is the previously opened folder. Any suggestions? Thanks Roland From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 03:40:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10596; Wed, 24 May 95 03:40:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25650; Wed, 24 May 95 03:07:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25644; Wed, 24 May 95 03:07:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEDKh-00038FC; Wed, 24 May 95 03:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: reichera@clark.net (A. Reichert) Subject: Re: Return-Receipt-To: A word of caution Date: 24 May 1995 03:45:30 GMT Message-Id: <3pua4q$qp6@clarknet.clark.net> References: <3ptr88$sh2@news.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Not for a machine receipt. - Alan Bob Brody (brody@primenet.com) wrote: : And if any of the list recipient's email/Internet provider charges : extra for sending Internet mail, those people will have to pay for your : return receipt. -- _____________________________________________ | The Noble Blades' 1995 Ruptured Organs Tour | | - Stage Combat Troupe, based in | | Reston, Virginia | |_____________________________________________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 04:11:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12098; Wed, 24 May 95 04:11:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28563; Wed, 24 May 95 04:02:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28557; Wed, 24 May 95 04:02:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEEA8-00038DC; Wed, 24 May 95 03:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@athena.compulink.forthnet.gr (Superuser) Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 on SCO outside US Date: 24 May 1995 07:01:18 GMT Message-Id: <3pulju$5nf@news.compulink.forthnet.gr> References: Status: O X-Status: Thommy Brolin (ntb@tcisswe.itis.se) wrote: : I'm an ELM user in Sweden that has been suggested to use PINE : instead of ELM. : The problem is that the build script (using 'build sco') can't : find 'libcrypt.a', which I have been told is not allowed to be : exported from the U.S., hence not included in my version of SCO. : Does anyone out there know a way round this problem? : Is there a substitute for 'libcrypt.a', or perhaps another : version of Pine that doesn't require it? There is a SLS (I dont remember the exact filename right now) you have to download from ftp.sco.com. By installing it you will be able to compile pine... 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Please ship to: YOUR NAME _____________________________________________ YOUR ADDRESS _________________________________________ Street __________________________________________________ City State Zip or Postal Code Country YOUR TELEPHONE NUMBER ____________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 05:05:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13843; Wed, 24 May 95 05:05:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29375; Wed, 24 May 95 04:54:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29369; Wed, 24 May 95 04:54:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEEy8-00038DC; Wed, 24 May 95 04:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rob@genrad.com (Rob Wood) Subject: Re: PINE 3.91 ported to AIX 4.1.2 yet? Date: 23 May 1995 22:03:13 -0400 Message-Id: <3pu451INNa3j@pulsar.genrad.com> References: <3p57iv$1cn6@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: What extension is the binary? This is what the README says: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ unix-bin DIRECTORY: Current Pine, Pico, and IMAPd binaries: pine-bin.X pico-bin.X imapd-bin.X where X may be: sun = Sun SunOS 4.1.3 on SPARC hardware solaris = Sun Solaris 2.2 on SPARC hardware next = NeXTstep on NeXT hardware ultrix = DEC Ultrix 4.x on MIPS processor linux = Linux (Intel hardware) hpux9 = HP/UX 9.01 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I don't see AIX or RS-6000 there. rob@genrad.com In article <3p57iv$1cn6@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) writes: > >Yep, I can't compile anything on my 4.1.2 box either...compile it on a >3.2.5 box and move the binaries over. Failing that, there are binaries >for 3.2.5 on ftp.cac.washington.edu, you can use them just fine. -- rob@genrad.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 06:10:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15500; Wed, 24 May 95 06:10:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28223; Wed, 24 May 95 05:58:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28217; Wed, 24 May 95 05:58:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEFxw-00038DC; Wed, 24 May 95 05:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Using Pine for News Date: 23 May 1995 15:24:08 GMT Message-Id: <3psumo$7pr@grape.epix.net> References: <3pme6i$t9a@silver.scs.unr.edu> <3psrpe$h62@alfa.ist.utl.pt> Status: O X-Status: CIISTiado (l38056@alfa.ist.utl.pt) wrote: : Steve Buehler (buehler@scs.unr.edu) wrote: : : Regarding the previous post, I changed the configuration area of nntp-server : : to tin [], but it doesn't seem to be working. Tin is the program I use : : to access my newsgroups. : I don't use pine to read my news (I use tin, like you) and I think : that you should know the name of your nntpserver. For instance, I'm in : alfa.ist.utl.pt and my nntpserver is news.ist.utl.pt. The nntpserver is : normally (?) a machine name,not a program. : You should call you system administrator and ask him what is your : nntpserver. Or while starting tin, look to the "connecting to ..." that : apears on the startup (in my tin it does...) Try rtin as opposed to tin. BYE. Hope this helps ... works for me. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 06:34:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16083; Wed, 24 May 95 06:34:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28705; Wed, 24 May 95 06:27:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rs8.loc.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28699; Wed, 24 May 95 06:27:39 -0700 Received: by rs8.loc.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA90224; Wed, 24 May 1995 09:27:38 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 09:27:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "R. Russell Neuswanger" To: pine-info Cc: Mike Brudenell Subject: sorting single lists in addressbook Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Now that I know how to combine addressee lists (thanks, friends!), I'd like to know if there's a way I can tell pine to take one of the lists in my addressbook ( a list which is a hash of full names, nicknames, and actual addresses) and alphabetize it -- preferably once on each -- so that I can de-dup it. I understand that, so long as I have no loops, I can address a message to two groups, and pine will send only once to those individuals who are on both. But there's another problem. The trillium list (composed of hunters, hikers, squash players, out-of-towners, and sundry more) is so long that I want to be able to scan it, in the .addressbook and in headers, for people I may have left out -- and all those otherwise harmless duplications make the scanning an exercise in beard-ripping. If I could once de-dup it thoroughly, the scanning ought to become a breeze. R. R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Edel sei der Mensch, Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance Hilfreich und gut! AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP), LC Denn das allein Washington, DC 20540-4120 Unterscheidet ihn ... 202.707.8747 (shared line) -- Goethe rrne@loc.gov or neuswang@mail.loc.gov No teratobibliotic entity avows *my* emanations. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 09:07:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23366; Wed, 24 May 95 09:07:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03053; Wed, 24 May 95 08:58:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03047; Wed, 24 May 95 08:58:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEIm9-00038DC; Wed, 24 May 95 08:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mark@rtd.com (Mark Beeson) Subject: cmsg cancel <3puj2q$jgo@baygull.rtd.com> Control: cancel <3puj2q$jgo@baygull.rtd.com> Date: 24 May 1995 09:37:22 GMT Message-Id: <3puuoi$2pg@baygull.rtd.com> Status: O X-Status: This is a perl-generated script that is cancelling spam from trasoff@rtd.com. --Mark -- Mark Beeson | Same Broken (MB178) President, Neural InterNetworking "I've seen the enemy, and the enemy is me." -- Sister Machine Gun URL: here. - If you have to ask, you'll never know. - From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 09:11:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23603; Wed, 24 May 95 09:11:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03439; Wed, 24 May 95 09:07:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay3.UU.NET by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03433; Wed, 24 May 95 09:07:08 -0700 Received: from uucp3.UU.NET by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP id QQyrcw26909; Wed, 24 May 1995 11:42:07 -0400 Received: from paradim1.UUCP by uucp3.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Wed, 24 May 1995 11:42:07 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 10:32:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Customizing fill column in pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is is possible in pine/pico to set which column to fill to as can be done in emacs? --- Jean Pierre LeJacq Quoin, Inc jplejacq@oops.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 09:19:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23955; Wed, 24 May 95 09:19:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02427; Wed, 24 May 95 09:13:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02421; Wed, 24 May 95 09:13:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEJ25-00038DC; Wed, 24 May 95 09:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: Blind carbon copies Date: 24 May 1995 10:55:54 -0500 Message-Id: <3pvkua$c0q@woof.cs.utexas.edu> References: <3ptse2$p6b@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au> Status: O X-Status: [ geoffrey@hunter.cc.utas.edu.au (Geoffrey Day) wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] -> Is is possible to have blind carbon copies in pine ? Yes. -> That is can you send out to a list of people so that they -> only see their own address and not the complete list -> of addresses it goes to. Probably not. What you can do is to put your name in the "To: " line, hit "Control-R" and put the other names on the list in the "Bcc:" line. Good Luck Ananda -- Ananda M. Kar |(H)458-9754 | URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/ananda/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 09:21:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24075; Wed, 24 May 95 09:21:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02375; Wed, 24 May 95 09:10:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pathbox.wustl.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02367; Wed, 24 May 95 09:10:39 -0700 Received: from [128.252.192.2] ([128.252.192.2]) by pathbox.wustl.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA28696 for ; Wed, 24 May 1995 11:10:54 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 11:17:26 -0500 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: trent@pathbox.wustl.edu (T. E. Hemmings) Subject: Odd problem with pine. Status: O X-Status: Hello all... I'v developed a strange problem with pine.... I'm using pine on a Sparc20 with Sol2.3. I've not implemented IMAP. It's only one machine, and I'm just using it as a front end to sendmail 8.6.9 (I know...) Everything's been working fine until last Thursday, when, for some reason pine will not send any user's mail. Outgoing mailjust sits in the /var/tmp directory. It will allow the root account to send mail, however. A user can still go into /var/tmp and use the command... ((/usr/lib/sendmail -oi -oem -t; /bin/rm -f /var/tmp//pinesendXXXXXX) < /var/tmp//pinesendXXXXXX &) to finish off the mail and send it. ( I got that command line from the .pine-debug file.) Comparing the debug files between root and a user sending performing the same actions doesn't show any differences... pine still lies and tells the user that the mail has been sent. I'm assuming since root can send mail still through pine, it probably is a permission problem somewhere... but I have been unable to find it. Thanks in advance for any help... (please reply by e-mail, our news service at WU is not always consistent.) Trent Hemmings Trent E. Hemmings | Washington University School of Medicine Network/Computer Support | Department of Pathology trent@pathbox.wustl.edu | St. Louis, MO VOX: +1 314 362 2677 | FAX +1 324 362 4096 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 09:35:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24590; Wed, 24 May 95 09:35:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03811; Wed, 24 May 95 09:28:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03805; Wed, 24 May 95 09:28:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEJI1-00038FC; Wed, 24 May 95 09:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Malachite Subject: wanted: pine source code Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 08:37:41 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hey there! if anyone has the pine source code (yes, uncompiled) could they please mail it to me? Thanks! Malachite is....Anye Mercy (mamercy@ucdavis.edu, anye@silica.ucdavis.edu) Ah...it feels so good to be back.... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 10:05:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25975; Wed, 24 May 95 10:05:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04404; Wed, 24 May 95 09:57:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rs8.loc.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04398; Wed, 24 May 95 09:57:48 -0700 Received: by rs8.loc.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA04307; Wed, 24 May 1995 12:57:48 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 12:57:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "R. Russell Neuswanger" To: to post Pine Subject: un-mimed smaller: strange? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Since I have yet to find a way to read mime-encoded material outside pine (and my correspondents' lack of such sophistication likely exceeds even mine), I tried sending the same file two ways to one of my other mailers: once by naming it on the attachment line, and once by using the read-file command in the body of the message. Sure enough, the first got mime-encoded and the other didn't. What seems very odd is that the message with the encoded file was 34K, while the one with it in clear was only 24K. Now, if mime is among other things a replacement for uuencode, and uuencode functions among other things to *compress* a message ... R. R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Edel sei der Mensch, Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance Hilfreich und gut! AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP), LC Denn das allein Washington, DC 20540-4120 Unterscheidet ihn ... 202.707.8747 (shared line) -- Goethe rrne@loc.gov or neuswang@mail.loc.gov No teratobibliotic entity avows *my* emanations. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 10:08:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26305; Wed, 24 May 95 10:08:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03533; Wed, 24 May 95 10:03:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03527; Wed, 24 May 95 10:03:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEJlq-00038FC; Wed, 24 May 95 09:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: glenn@dcs.uga.edu (Glenn Leavell) Subject: Re: MIME: Pine and Pegasus Mail Date: 24 May 1995 16:23:53 GMT Message-Id: <3pvmip$qq9@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> References: <3pdptv$lbj@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <3pdptv$lbj@hobbes.cc.uga.edu>, I wrote: > I'm experiencing some trouble *reading* MIME articles in Pine 3.91 > that were sent to me from non-Pine MIME-compliant mailers. > > For example, when a colleague sends me a MIME note from Pegasus Mail for > Windows (Version 20 Wide Beta) and attaches a GIF image file, Pine > doesn't show the extra attachment, although the MIME headers look > correct to me. Instead the BASE64 version of the GIF file is seen > in the standard text portion of the note. Thanks very much to the following people for helping me to diagnose this problem: Rick Crelia Terry Gray Larry Miller [DT] Mary Odom David Quarterman Don Sugarman When sending mail in Pegasus, you can select a "special" button. Under the special area, is a yes/no choice for whether or not to use MIME. By default, it's set to no. No matter how you have this yes/no setting configured, you still have to choose a type like "MIME GIF" or "MIME JPEG" when including an attachment with your note. If you do include an attachment but have the "no" choice selected for MIME, then the note is sent with all the MIME headers and separators, but without the crucial "MIME-Version" header. This seems pretty strange and confusing to me. Does anyone know why there should be an option to send MIME attachments *without* the "MIME-Version" header? Thanks again for all the help. -- Glenn Leavell, glenn@uga.edu University of Georgia, University Computing and Networking Services From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 10:18:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26752; Wed, 24 May 95 10:18:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04742; Wed, 24 May 95 10:13:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04730; Wed, 24 May 95 10:13:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEJwK-00038DC; Wed, 24 May 95 10:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robyn Boyle Subject: Delivery Confirmation? Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 22:48:10 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, This may be an incredibly ignorant question, if so, I apologise. On pegasus mail, there is a function whereby you can get notification that your mail has actually been delivered to the other person's server. Is there any such function on Pine? This becomes a very useful feature when people's servers go down, because it enables you to ascertain whether your message has actually reached its destination. I have encountered this problem recently. Thanks, Robyn ______________________________________________________________________ Robyn Boyle, School of Behavioural Sciences, Macquarie University, Phone: +61 2 850 8624 Sydney. NSW. 2109 Fax: +61 2 850 8062 Australia. Email: robyn.boyle@mq.edu.au _______________________________________________________________________ "Those who will not reason, perish in the act: Those who will not act, perish for that reason." -- W.H. Auden From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 10:27:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27110; Wed, 24 May 95 10:27:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03943; Wed, 24 May 95 10:18:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03937; Wed, 24 May 95 10:18:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEK2L-00038DC; Wed, 24 May 95 10:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: csb@sjfc.edu (Coenraad Bakker) Subject: E-Mail Software for Alpha OSF/1 Message-Id: <1995May24.123217.10336@sjfc.edu> Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 12:32:17 GMT Status: O X-Status: We are establishing a front-end server to our campus network so that the entire campus community can use the same e-mail software. The requirements for this software are: 1. Run on a DEC Alpha system with OSF/1 (Digital UNIX). 2. Easy to use for regular users and support personnel. 3. Download capabilty to PCs, Macs, and UNIX systems (all three) and preferably automatic when the systems are on or are turned on. 4. Send and receive documents created in word processors on the PC, Mac, or UNIX systems. If you have any suggestions for the type of software package to use, how and where to obtain it, and/or any experiential information, we like to hear from you. -- Coenraad Bakker Director Academic Computing Services St. John Fisher College 3690 East Avenue From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 10:38:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27567; Wed, 24 May 95 10:38:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04324; Wed, 24 May 95 10:33:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04318; Wed, 24 May 95 10:33:56 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id NAA15164; Wed, 24 May 1995 13:32:27 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id NAA17195; Wed, 24 May 1995 13:32:26 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA04574; Wed, 24 May 95 13:31:02 EDT Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 13:31:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: "R. Russell Neuswanger" Cc: to post Pine Subject: Re: un-mimed smaller: strange? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 24 May 1995, R. Russell Neuswanger wrote: > Since I have yet to find a way to read mime-encoded material > outside pine (and my correspondents' lack of such sophistication likely > exceeds even mine), I tried sending the same file two ways to one of my > other mailers: once by naming it on the attachment line, and once by > using the read-file command in the body of the message. > Sure enough, the first got mime-encoded and the other didn't. > What seems very odd is that the message with the encoded file was > 34K, while the one with it in clear was only 24K. Now, if mime is among > other things a replacement for uuencode, and uuencode functions among > other things to *compress* a message ... > I don't think it is accurate to say that uuencode compresses the message. The encoding process, pine or otherwise, splits 8-bit bites into 4-bit chunks and concatentates with 000s to make a 7-bit bites. The decoder recombines the right 4 bits into 8-bit bites at the other end. Though there may be some optimization, the primary function is to push 8-bit bytes through a 7-bit wire. For that reason, the file size grows. Let me know if you need the dos or unix standalone versions of mpack/munpack, and I will e-mail them. (Be sure to let me know if you want them as a MIMEd Pine attachment or uuencoded.) Regards, Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 10:59:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28613; Wed, 24 May 95 10:59:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05548; Wed, 24 May 95 10:53:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05542; Wed, 24 May 95 10:53:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEKYR-00038DC; Wed, 24 May 95 10:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 on SCO outside US Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 14:26:16 GMT Message-Id: References: <3pulju$5nf@news.compulink.forthnet.gr> Status: O X-Status: Superuser (root@athena.compulink.forthnet.gr) wrote: : There is a SLS (I dont remember the exact filename right now) you have to : download from ftp.sco.com. By installing it you will be able to compile : pine... It gives you libcrypt_i.a. i stands for international... ;-) The name is lng225b. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 11:13:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29404; Wed, 24 May 95 11:13:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05065; Wed, 24 May 95 11:03:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05059; Wed, 24 May 95 11:03:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEKif-00038DC; Wed, 24 May 95 10:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dancona@uni2c3.unige.ch (Daniel D'Ancona) Subject: => MS-Mail gateway SMTP Non-documented error <= Message-Id: Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 13:23:14 GMT Status: O X-Status: I have an MS-Mail gateway for SMTP, version 3.0. Is it the latest version ? An error occurs when establishing a connection with extended mail routers. The external SMTP router says EHLO, my MS-gateway doesn't understand it and closes connection. At this point, any further communication becomes impossible. This error isn't documented by MS. The question is: What configuration must I have for my gateway to solve this problem ? PLEASE REPLY TO: lenggenhager@switch.ch Thanks in advance. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 11:18:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29697; Wed, 24 May 95 11:18:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05953; Wed, 24 May 95 11:11:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailer.ug.eds.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05945; Wed, 24 May 95 11:11:15 -0700 Received: from camhpp24.ug.eds.com by UG.EDS.COM (PMDF V4.3-10 #4) id <01HQVNT9IT0G002S26@UG.EDS.COM>; Wed, 24 May 1995 11:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by camhpp24.ug.eds.com (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA28927; Wed, 24 May 1995 11:11:29 -0700 Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 11:11:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mark Hoover (Hoover & Nebrig, Inc)" Subject: .pine-debug1 To: Pine Info Message-Id: X-Envelope-To: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: I am running a new version of pine3.89 and there seem to be these debug files getting created in my home directory each time pine is run. Did I miss something in the build ?? Or the FAQ for that matter ;) Mark Hoover Hoover & Nebrig, Inc mark@hoover.com PO Box 2230 hooverm@bbs.ug.eds.com Peachtree City, GA 30269 (404) 304 - 1607 U.S.A. (404) 304 - 1608 (fax) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 11:44:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01626; Wed, 24 May 95 11:44:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06610; Wed, 24 May 95 11:38:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06604; Wed, 24 May 95 11:38:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sELH6-00038FC; Wed, 24 May 95 11:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: Address Book Date: 24 May 1995 10:58:54 -0500 Message-Id: <3pvl3u$c26@woof.cs.utexas.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: [ Larry Corsa wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] -> Is it possible to send mail to an 80 address address book but not show -> the entire list in the "To:" field? Yes. Put your address on the "To:" line, hit "Control-R" and then put the rest of the adresses in the "Bcc:" line. Good Luck Ananda -- Ananda M. Kar |(H)458-9754 | URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/ananda/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 11:48:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01737; Wed, 24 May 95 11:48:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05987; Wed, 24 May 95 11:36:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from is1.hk.super.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05977; Wed, 24 May 95 11:36:08 -0700 Received: by is1.hk.super.net id AA22528 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for Pine-Info ); Thu, 25 May 1995 02:35:59 +0800 Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 02:35:58 +0800 (HKT) From: Kevin Yeung To: Pine-Info Subject: [Unparsable date] Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello everybody, I use procmail to filter mails to different folders, and today I opened one of these folders, and pine said "[Unparsable date]". What does it mean? Only this folder cause this message to pop up, but there is no error or difficulties to read the messages in that folder. The dates of the messages are normal. So, any help? Thank you. -- Kevin Yeung email: keviny@hk.super.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 12:03:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02592; Wed, 24 May 95 12:03:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06299; Wed, 24 May 95 11:48:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06293; Wed, 24 May 95 11:48:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sELL0-00038FC; Wed, 24 May 95 11:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fox@panix.com (Lou Fox) Subject: Somehow I am subscribed to all Newsgroups Help Date: 24 May 1995 12:00:35 -0400 Message-Id: <3pvl73$9j0@panix.com> Status: O X-Status: I don't know how it happenned but pine has me subscribed to every newsgroup. I tried deleting my .newsrc file, which seemed to work because then I was subscribed to nothing. So I subscribed to a couple of my favorite newsgroups, only to find that once I logged back into pine I was once again subscribed to all newsgroups. Help. I don't understand how to fix this. Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 14:23:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09103; Wed, 24 May 95 14:23:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10205; Wed, 24 May 95 14:19:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10199; Wed, 24 May 95 14:19:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sENmn-00038DC; Wed, 24 May 95 14:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: srinivas@elements.rpal.rockwell.com (Sampath Srinivas) Subject: Customizing reply address? Date: 24 May 1995 19:24:26 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Hi, Is there a way of customizing the From: field in outgoing messages sent by Pine? This question is for a friend at Columbia University who needs help customizing Pine. At Columbia you are assigned a login id like "ab123". So Pine sets the "From" field to "From: ab123@columbia.edu". This works just fine, but my friend would like to change the from field to include the actual name (so that, for eg, the field would read "From: John.Smith@columbia.edu"). We've checked that the mail server at Columbia accepts this address and delivers the mail correctly to the "ab123" mailbox. I am specifically interested in having a different "From:" field in all outgoing messages -- that is, I am not interested in putting in a "Reply-To" field. Basically, when the Reply-To field is inserted, the person receiving the messages still sees the very unmnemonic "ab123@columbia.edu" when reading the message. We would like to banish "ab123" from all mention. Please email me, I'll summarize on the newgroup. Sam -- ------- ------- Sampath Srinivas srinivas@rpal.rockwell.com Rockwell Science Center, Palo Alto Laboratory (415) 325-7174 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 14:37:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09755; Wed, 24 May 95 14:37:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10109; Wed, 24 May 95 14:29:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10103; Wed, 24 May 95 14:29:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sENw0-00038DC; Wed, 24 May 95 14:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: waa@clark.net (William A Arbaugh) Subject: Remote mail boxes using IMAP/POP3 Date: 23 May 1995 16:28:53 -0400 Message-Id: <3ptgi5$7ff@clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: I've tried to open remote mail boxes on a Sun and IBM/AIX machines. One is running a POP3 server and the other an IMAP server. I try and open the remote mailbox with the following command in the folder section: {remote.host}INBOX In both cases, I get an error after a short period of time saying "Can not open INBOX. File already exists!" (or words to that effect). If I try, {remote.host}"INBOX" Then the file INBOX is created on the remote host. Can anyone tell me what the deal is? thanks, bill waa@clark.net waa@dsl.cis.upenn.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 15:12:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11285; Wed, 24 May 95 15:12:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11152; Wed, 24 May 95 15:04:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11146; Wed, 24 May 95 15:04:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEOSw-00038DC; Wed, 24 May 95 14:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rneu@rneu.loc.gov Subject: Re: Quote longer than reply Date: 23 May 1995 20:50:02 GMT Message-Id: <3pthpq$1pt7@rs7.loc.gov> References: Status: O X-Status: Kevin's question suggestions a concern I hadn't thought of. If, like many others, I take advantage of pine's ability to intersperse my comments with the passages I'm replying to, will some daemon still keep track of who's longer-winded?? > it didn't let me post when "quote longer than reply." Geez, >somehow I really had to. How to switch off this ugly feature? >Thank you. -- >Kevin Yeung > email: keviny@hk.super.net R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life rneu@rneu.loc.gov or (better) rrne@loc.gov I speak for me. Only. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 15:20:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11644; Wed, 24 May 95 15:20:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11113; Wed, 24 May 95 15:14:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11107; Wed, 24 May 95 15:14:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEOcx-00038FC; Wed, 24 May 95 15:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Udi Motello Subject: Re: Automated Reply...How to setup? Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 13:04:11 +0300 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: H, The doc says that you cant use -I string in INSERT mode. After pine read your "r" it DOES replay and now it is in compose screen - that is, INSERT mode. In the same way you cant locate message have "Hello" in his subject and read it by this way: -I i,wHello,CR,v The "w" put pine in INSERT mode. B, Udi On Wed, 3 May 1995, STORM wrote: > > I have been trying to create an automated reply using: > > Pine -I i,r,^X > > This sending a reply to a new message (my signature is the auto reply > message) received. However, Pine is not recognizing the ^X command. > > Is there someway to fix this? Or is there an easier way to create an > automated reply/mailbot? > > Thanks for your help. > > Storm > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 15:45:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12283; Wed, 24 May 95 15:45:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11795; Wed, 24 May 95 15:39:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11789; Wed, 24 May 95 15:39:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEP1p-00038FC; Wed, 24 May 95 15:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "G. Harney" Subject: Return-Receipt-To: A word of caution Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 17:19:03 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Was following the recent thread on getting a Rtrn Rcpt for email that one sends. I decided to give it a shot. Works great, but; I just sent an email off to a mailing list, and a min later I am getting bombarded with return receipts from the mailing list recipients! I know this list has about 1000+ members, I am wondering if I will be getting that many rtrn rcpts. Oh well, live and learn. :) Best to all, -Giles From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 16:09:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13102; Wed, 24 May 95 16:09:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12232; Wed, 24 May 95 16:04:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12226; Wed, 24 May 95 16:04:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEPS1-00038DC; Wed, 24 May 95 16:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Re: Somehow I am subscribed to all Newsgroups Help Message-Id: Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 11:57:33 -0600 In-Reply-To: <3pvl73$9j0@panix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 24 May 1995, Lou Fox wrote: | Date: 24 MAY 1995 12:00:35 -0400 | From: Lou Fox | Newgroups: comp.mail.pine | Subject: Somehow I am subscribed to all Newsgroups Help | | I don't know how it happenned but pine has me subscribed to every | newsgroup. I tried deleting my .newsrc file, which seemed to work | because then I was subscribed to nothing. So I subscribed to a couple of | my favorite newsgroups, only to find that once I logged back into pine I | was once again subscribed to all newsgroups. Help. I don't understand | how to fix this. | | Thanks. | | Try this: compress .newsrc zcat .newsrc.Z | tr ":" "\!" > .newsrc That should UN-subscribe all groups. Now, use Pine's menu to subscribe to the groups you want. Alternatively, you can edit .newsrc and change the ! to : on the groups you want. - -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka "The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp1.1.4, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBL8MfAeBu0383Om6dAQFaQgP8C+DobnwSRXRxLVSKPy1o44dLWe1QLIcb /pGWBoeQ/ito9snt2FO+ucUuzwgFLBnXbE9SZe/Ae2pZDlgrg3BIFtb3P//5+8Cg Cec+/JxARWFz2oLHw63DFlHtAyhCjFe4HeLtHLog4BW8Bdp0bxyoBHA1fx03KDoq SspP11zTQZE= =nNPo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 16:49:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15048; Wed, 24 May 95 16:49:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12932; Wed, 24 May 95 16:44:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12926; Wed, 24 May 95 16:44:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEQ4W-00038FC; Wed, 24 May 95 16:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cj@primenet.com (C.J. Mandrake) Subject: Pine 3.91/IMAP using rsh instead of imapd Date: 23 May 1995 22:24:11 GMT Message-Id: <3ptnab$ns6@news4.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: I am running Linux and just installed pine 3.91 and I am having problems when trying to do the following.... pine -f {mailhost.primenet.com}/var/mail/cj It tries to do a rsh command to mailhost.primenet.com. This is the command that it is trying to exec... rsh mailhost.primenet.com exec /etc/rimapd It hangs for a long time and times out. I have access to mailhost and there is no program called /etc/rimapd, nor is it in any other directory. If I use the pine 3.91 on another machine, it works fine. It logs into the imapd and gets my mail. It just does not work on my Linux machine. I there something that I need to reset or delete from my old 3.89 settings, I have tried to delete the .pinerc files, and still no help. I was told that pine 3.91 fixes this problem. Can anyone give me assistance? -- o __ / | "I do not feel obliged to believe that \___/|/ @primenet.com the same God who has endowed us with sense, /| Primenet Support reason, and intellect has intended us to \| forgo their use." - Gallileo Galilei From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 18:04:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18189; Wed, 24 May 95 18:04:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14814; Wed, 24 May 95 17:59:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14808; Wed, 24 May 95 17:59:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sERCc-00038DC; Wed, 24 May 95 17:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: twosheds@clark.net (Two Sheds) Subject: Re: => MS-Mail gateway SMTP Non-documented error <= Date: 24 May 1995 18:41:27 GMT Message-Id: <3pvukn$lso@clarknet.clark.net> References: <3pvf6g$l5n@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> <3pvqua$i8c@cssun.mathcs.emory.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Charles Stephens (cfs@mathcs.emory.edu) wrote: : Carl S. Gutekunst (csg@clavinova.eng.sun.com) wrote: : : Daniel D'Ancona wrote: : : >I have an MS-Mail gateway for SMTP, version 3.0. Is it the latest version ? : : No, I believe there is one later version. : : >The external SMTP router says EHLO, my MS-gateway doesn't understand it and : : >closes connection. : : Yup. If the very first command to the MS server isn't HELO, it drops the : : connection, end of discussion. Microsoft had no plans to fix this. : Will Macrosloth win this one w/ every SMTP mail server?!?!? : I don't think so. Fixed in the latest version, regardless of what MSFT says over the phone. Pick up V3.0.9 from ftp.microsoft.com. It doesn't do this any more. Also has a new "-F" flag that makes the MS Mail appear to come from *the sender* instead of the last re-mailer. Oooo! What a concept! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 18:48:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19287; Wed, 24 May 95 18:48:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14966; Wed, 24 May 95 18:44:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14960; Wed, 24 May 95 18:44:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sERx9-00038DC; Wed, 24 May 95 18:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: geoffrey@hunter.cc.utas.edu.au (Geoffrey Day) Subject: Blind carbon copies Date: 23 May 1995 23:51:29 GMT Message-Id: <3ptse2$p6b@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au> Status: O X-Status: Is is possible to have blind carbon copies in pine ? That is can you send out to a list of people so that they only see their own address and not the complete list of addresses it goes to. -- Geoffrey Day Email : Geoff.Day@its.utas.edu.au Systems Programmer Ph : (002) 20 7415 I.T.S. University of Tasmania From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 20:12:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21129; Wed, 24 May 95 20:12:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15907; Wed, 24 May 95 20:06:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay3.UU.NET by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15901; Wed, 24 May 95 20:06:06 -0700 Received: from uucp3.UU.NET by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP id QQyreq05508; Wed, 24 May 1995 23:06:03 -0400 Received: from paradim1.UUCP by uucp3.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Wed, 24 May 1995 23:06:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 12:17:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: Malachite Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: wanted: pine source code In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > Hey there! if anyone has the pine source code (yes, uncompiled) could > they please mail it to me? Thanks! It's quite large (2+ Mbytes compressed). You're better off using ftp to download it directly from ftp.cac.washington.edu. --- Jean Pierre From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 21:01:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22094; Wed, 24 May 95 21:01:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17261; Wed, 24 May 95 20:54:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17255; Wed, 24 May 95 20:54:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sETyz-00038DC; Wed, 24 May 95 20:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: alexis@wni.DIALix.oz.au (Alexis Oosterhoff) Subject: PC-Pine 3.91 & PC-NFS 5.x Message-Id: Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 01:47:27 GMT Status: O X-Status: I recently picked up Pine 3.91 for PC-NFS, but have been unable to get it to work. Pine 3.89 works just fine. The problem seems to be something to do with Pine being unable to find the mail host. I used the same pinerc file as was used with Pine 3.89, so there should be no problem ... Any comments? Alexis. - Alexis Oosterhoff alexis@wni.DIALix.oz.au Systems Administrator WNI Science & Engineering and Weathernews Pty Ltd 31 Bishop St, Jolimont W.A 6014 AUSTRALIA ph:(61 9) 387-7955 fax:387-6686 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 24 23:42:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25757; Wed, 24 May 95 23:42:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19455; Wed, 24 May 95 23:35:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19449; Wed, 24 May 95 23:35:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEWTg-00038IC; Wed, 24 May 95 23:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: csg@clavinova.eng.sun.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) Subject: Re: => MS-Mail gateway SMTP Non-documented error <= Date: 25 May 1995 01:18:58 GMT Message-Id: <3q0lu2$ec@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> References: <3pvf6g$l5n@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> <3pvqua$i8c@cssun.mathcs.emory.edu> <3pvukn$lso@clarknet.clark.net> Status: O X-Status: Two Sheds wrote: >Fixed in the latest version, regardless of what MSFT says over the phone. Thanks for the corrections. The funny thing is that I wasn't told this by the support people, but by the very engineering folks who were responsible for maintaining the gateway. This was almost a year ago. It would appear that someone turned up the heat in an effort to placate customers who are getting tired waiting for MS Exchange. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 00:15:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26681; Thu, 25 May 95 00:15:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18517; Thu, 25 May 95 00:10:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18511; Thu, 25 May 95 00:10:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEX0c-00038HC; Thu, 25 May 95 00:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: HELP: pine not using FQDN for reply-to address? Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 18:47:34 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3ptdri$7be@noc2.drexel.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3ptdri$7be@noc2.drexel.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 23 May 1995, Neil Harkins wrote: > Hello, we are using Pine 3.91 on a SOLARIS 2.4 Sparc 20, which is using > smail3.1.29 as the transport. Whenever I send a message to a person on the > system, it fills in @hostname instead of @hostname.domain, and does this > in the reply to field also, so that mail is going out as if were from > user@hostname instead of using user@hostname.domain. The most likely cause of this is a broken system configuration. In particular, it is very likely that your /etc/hosts has an entry that looks like 129.25.3.11 dunx1 dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu whereas the correct entry would be: 129.25.3.11 dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu dunx1 This is a very common mistake. Unfortunately, some sorcerer's apprentices have spread folklore to the effect that the incorrect form is what you should use. The incorrect entry causes the gethostbyname() call to return the non-qualified name as the "official" name, which in turn will also cause the bad results in Pine. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 00:23:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26802; Thu, 25 May 95 00:23:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18592; Thu, 25 May 95 00:17:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [137.98.200.54] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18586; Thu, 25 May 95 00:17:32 -0700 Received: (from stares@localhost) by lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.dhl.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA10630; Thu, 25 May 1995 13:16:21 +0100 Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 13:16:18 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM X-Sender: stares@lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.dhl.com To: Sampath Srinivas Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Customizing reply address? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are my own and not my employers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 24 May 1995, Sampath Srinivas wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a way of customizing the From: field in outgoing messages > sent by Pine? This question is for a friend at Columbia University who > needs help customizing Pine. [snip] This is possible but requires a rebuild of pine from the source code. To do this find the relevant OS specific file for your variant of Unix (normally in pine3.91/pine/osdep/os-*.h) and uncomment the line which has the following: #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM You then recompile pine. Once this is done you will have to add a customised header for your From: line. - ---- Stuart Tares Email : Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM Senior Network Analyst Voice : +44 181 607 4060 DHL Systems Ltd, CSG Europe & Africa Region -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.i Comment: Processed by mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface. iQB1AgUBL8R09qJEeW6YXTONAQFkDwL/RoGd3WyEmBP11zXcKF6T0V3GILxa+lA/ kTzdV6VGMi4dtdt5tgkxJNddczJNzt7r0x4xS6E4lLl88jy4FJJTQKCRg35KsJvb Uq62VUp6V2WIHsUoLaO/ywZoqAgWKc5X =xWO+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 00:58:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27569; Thu, 25 May 95 00:58:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20452; Thu, 25 May 95 00:53:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20446; Thu, 25 May 95 00:53:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEXef-00038VC; Thu, 25 May 95 00:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: News Reading Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 18:54:44 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 23 May 1995, Brian P. Hampson wrote: > When Pine attaches to a Newsserver...what does the NNTP conversation look > like? I am trying to help a developer with his NNTP server, yet cannot > get PINE to communicate with it. It's probably something the NNTP server > is missing, but I would appreciate knowing what it is. The source file pine/imap/ANSI/c-client/nntpcunx.c contains the commands used by Pine's NNTP client. Look for calls to smtp_send(). If you run Pine as "pine -d9" you should get a transcript of the NNTP protocol session as part of the .pine-debug* files. You can look at that and see what is happening. Unfortunately, "cannot get PINE to communicate with it" is much too vague a statement, as is "something the NNTP server is missing". If the NNTP server implements the NNTP specification, *and* does not do something stupid such as close the connection when it receives an unknown command (Pine does use some non-specified but commonly-implemented commands such as XHDR), then it should work with Pine. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 01:14:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28181; Thu, 25 May 95 01:14:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19219; Thu, 25 May 95 01:06:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19209; Thu, 25 May 95 01:06:29 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 25 May 1995 09:03:09 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA15151; Thu, 25 May 1995 09:07:02 +0100 Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 09:07:01 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: rneu@rneu.loc.gov Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Quote longer than reply In-Reply-To: <3pthpq$1pt7@rs7.loc.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Yes, but only for news articles posted to a news server whose software has been configured to reject articles with more included material than "fresh". A lot of news servers are not configured like this (our was, until I changed it!). You can be as "inclusive" as you like when sending e-mail. Interesting question: If someone has sent out a verbose article/message and you reply including large portions of it with little "fresh" material, does this make you verbose by association? :-) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On 23 May 1995 rneu@rneu.loc.gov wrote: > Kevin's question suggestions a concern I hadn't thought of. > If, like many others, I take advantage of pine's ability to > intersperse my comments with the passages I'm replying to, will > some daemon still keep track of who's longer-winded?? > > > it didn't let me post when "quote longer than reply." Geez, > >somehow I really had to. How to switch off this ugly feature? > >Thank you. > -- >Kevin Yeung > > email: keviny@hk.super.net > > > R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life > rneu@rneu.loc.gov or (better) rrne@loc.gov > I speak for me. Only. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 02:46:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00246; Thu, 25 May 95 02:46:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20260; Thu, 25 May 95 02:40:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20254; Thu, 25 May 95 02:40:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEZO9-00038IC; Thu, 25 May 95 02:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu (Supak Lailert) Subject: Re: You can't answer this Date: 25 May 1995 09:15:30 GMT Message-Id: <3q1hri$do8@gondor.sdsu.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: Roberto Allen (rallen@city.ba.k12.md.us) wrote: : You can't reply to me using the Reply feature in Pine, because if you : try, the message will get sent to rallen@city.ba.k12.md.us instead of : rallen@knight.city.ba.k12.md.us. (Try it!) Does anyone know where this : information : is stored? There's nothing like that in my pine.conf file. Should there : be a line like Reply-To-Host=knight.city.ba.k12.md.us? Is there : something like that in another file? We are a new site and are running : Pine 3.91. Start PINE, press S and then C to enter configuration screen. You'll now see a lot of configurable options, use arrow key to move down until you see option "customized-hdrs=" Press A to add value to it. You should add Reply-To: rallen@knight.city.ba.k12.md.us Another way that you might prefer is to set the value in option "user-domain". You can set it to "knight.city.ba.k12.md.us" and it will be used in From: line for all your outgoing mail. Hope this help. Supak -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Supak Lailert -- MBA (IS) Program, San Diego State University >> >> lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 02:50:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00402; Thu, 25 May 95 02:50:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21994; Thu, 25 May 95 02:45:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21988; Thu, 25 May 95 02:45:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEZRz-00038IC; Thu, 25 May 95 02:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joshua Hosseinoff Subject: Pine slow loading when internet down Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 01:50:51 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Last weekend our T1 line was out due to a power outage or some other malfunction and so we were cut off from the outside internet. During that time Pine would take nearly two minutes to load up. I tried checking with the debug options on pine to see what it was doing, and as far as I can tell it was either trying to ping the localhost or connect to the smtp server on the localhost (I should note that during the problem that if we tried telnetting or pinging ourselves it would connect but only after a long wait). So does anyone know why pine needs to make a tcpip connection during startup? Thanks Josh Hosseinoff hosseino@yu1.yu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 03:40:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01635; Thu, 25 May 95 03:40:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20722; Thu, 25 May 95 03:30:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20716; Thu, 25 May 95 03:30:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEaAr-00038FC; Thu, 25 May 95 03:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: .pine-debug1 Date: 24 May 1995 14:42:57 -0500 Message-Id: <3q0281$dr6@woof.cs.utexas.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: [ hoovermd@hoover.com ("Mark Hoover (Hoover & Nebrig, Inc)") wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] -> I am running a new version of pine3.89 and there seem to be these debug -> files getting created in my home directory each time pine is run. To stop the creation of debug files start PINE with "pine -d0". Ananda -- Ananda M. Kar |(H)458-9754 | URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/ananda/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 03:47:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01714; Thu, 25 May 95 03:47:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20834; Thu, 25 May 95 03:40:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from actcom.co.il by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20828; Thu, 25 May 95 03:40:55 -0700 Received: from galtronics.UUCP by actcom.co.il with UUCPgaltronics (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id NAA25150 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 25 May 1995 13:38:22 +0300 (rfc931-sender: uucp@localhost) Received: by aviion.galtronics.co.il (5.4R2.10/ACTCOM-GALTRONICS-S-1.0) id AA11679; Thu, 25 May 1995 13:31:10 GMT Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 13:31:10 +0000 (GMT) From: Aladdin Khamis To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Setting MY SMTP SERVER TO Work with PC-PINE? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 18 May 1995, Aladdin Khamis wrote: Does anybody know how to set an SMTP server in UNIX, so PC-PINE is able to use it and sends and receives E-mail ? P.s. I looked through the FAQ for pine, but I still have some hard time doing it. Any help will be appreciated Thanks > |\/\/\/| > | | > | | > | (o)(o) > C. __) > | \___| > | / > /____\ > / \ > / \ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 04:26:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03211; Thu, 25 May 95 04:26:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23422; Thu, 25 May 95 04:20:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23416; Thu, 25 May 95 04:20:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEaui-00038FC; Thu, 25 May 95 04:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Chajecki Subject: Re: PC Pine/Novell Date: 25 May 1995 10:37:21 GMT Message-Id: <3q1ml1$m6u@macondo.dmu.ac.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Pete, pjh@mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg) wrote: >In trying to read INBOX, pc-pine/novell reports: > > [Can't connect to tecoma.mccc.edu, 143: refused(61)] > >What does this mean?? I have had a similar problem trying to set Pine for Windows up with access to our mail server. It turned out that our mail server was not running an imap or sntp server (imapd). PC pine uses the imap protocol and sntp and therefore requires the remote machine that you are trying to access supports both of these. John Chajecki Network Technician School of the Built Environment De Montfort University jac@dmu.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 06:03:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05443; Thu, 25 May 95 06:03:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22339; Thu, 25 May 95 05:56:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22333; Thu, 25 May 95 05:55:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEcPz-00038DC; Thu, 25 May 95 05:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roberto Allen Subject: Re: You can't answer this Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 16:53:35 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Thanks to all who replied. Most people suggested making changes to my pine.rc file, which I'm sure would have worked. I was setting this up for the whole system as root, so I really needed to change the pine.conf file. The magic solution was: Add a line in pine.conf that reads: user-domain=knight.city.ba.k12.md.us Thanks to all who responded. --Roberto From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 06:22:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05865; Thu, 25 May 95 06:22:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24848; Thu, 25 May 95 06:11:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from reid.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24836; Thu, 25 May 95 06:11:02 -0700 Received: by reid.cac.washington.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA16345; Thu, 25 May 95 06:10:59 -0700 Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 06:10:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "Timothy F. Lee {UCS}" X-Sender: timlee@reid.cac.washington.edu To: 1842248.42663942@psg.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: The Key To Organizing Your Health Records In-Reply-To: <3puj2q$jgo@baygull.rtd.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Why does this list seem to attract so many "junk" spam mail? --tim On 24 May 1995 1842248.42663942@psg.com wrote: > THE KEY TO ORGANIZING YOUR HEALTH RECORDS > > "If you care about yourself and your children, you will do everything you > can to know your family's medical history. It can save your life, and the > lives of those who are dear to you." -- Dr. Aubry Milunsky, Director, > Boston University's Center for Human Genetics (Life Magazine, March, > 1995). > > Your Lifetime Health Planner offers the simplest, most effective way to > take charge of your health. Enter important facts about your health > history, keep a record of the names of medications and their effects, > document each doctor visit and diagnosis. You will have the information > you need, and in the event of an emergency, so will your family. > > Your Lifetime Health Planner, 198 pages in a compact, loose-leaf binder, > contains a variety of sections which include "Doctor Visits," > "Medications," "Family Health History," and "Doctors and Specialists." > The Planner is a must for the busy executive who needs to stay organized, > for seniors who are receiving care and for newborns who need a record of > their health care. > > Parents Magazine recommended the Planner to its readers (April, 1994) and > MCI called it "a useful resource in managing your personal health > records." Margie Smotherman, Coordinator, Employee Health and Wellness, > Blue Shield/Blue Cross of Iowa, said: "The employees felt that these > (Planners) were great tools to not only record their pertinent numbers, > but to plan for doctor's visits." > > To get your copy, send a check or money order for $19.95 (plus shipping > and handling) to : > > Your Lifetime Health Planner > 1955 W Grant Rd., # 230 > Tucson AZ 85745 > USA > > Shipping and handling charges: $4.95 US; $8 Canada/Mexico; $14 Europe; > $18 Asia/Pacific Rim. > > Include your name, address and telephone number.* > > Visa/MasterCard orders, call 520-798-1530. > > *Large corporate discounts available for orders of 1,000 copies or more. > > Your Lifetime Health Planner > 1955 West Grant Road, #230 > Tucson, AZ 85747 > > Enclosed is $______ for ______ copies of Your Lifetime Health Planner. > > Please ship to: > > YOUR NAME _____________________________________________ > > YOUR ADDRESS _________________________________________ > Street > __________________________________________________ > City State Zip or Postal Code Country > > YOUR TELEPHONE NUMBER ____________________________________ > ------------------------------------------- Timothy F. Lee (timlee@cac.washington.edu) Computer Support Analyst, UCS University of Washington From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 06:29:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05989; Thu, 25 May 95 06:29:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24966; Thu, 25 May 95 06:21:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24960; Thu, 25 May 95 06:21:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEcpp-00038DC; Thu, 25 May 95 06:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: reichera@clark.net (A. Reichert) Subject: Re: You can't answer this Date: 24 May 1995 12:57:27 GMT Message-Id: <3pvafn$qhk@clarknet.clark.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Check this with your sysadmin. - Alan Roberto Allen (rallen@city.ba.k12.md.us) wrote: : You can't reply to me using the Reply feature in Pine, because if you : try, the message will get sent to rallen@city.ba.k12.md.us instead of : rallen@knight.city.ba.k12.md.us. (Try it!) Does anyone know where this : information : is stored? There's nothing like that in my pine.conf file. Should there : be a line like Reply-To-Host=knight.city.ba.k12.md.us? Is there : something like that in another file? We are a new site and are running : Pine 3.91. : Thank you for replying (or at least trying). : --Roberto -- _____________________________________________ | The Noble Blades' 1995 Ruptured Organs Tour | | - Stage Combat Troupe, based in | | Reston, Virginia | |_____________________________________________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 06:32:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06074; Thu, 25 May 95 06:32:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25030; Thu, 25 May 95 06:26:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay3.UU.NET by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25024; Thu, 25 May 95 06:26:08 -0700 Received: from uucp2.UU.NET by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP id QQyrgf04397; Thu, 25 May 1995 09:26:07 -0400 Received: from paradim1.UUCP by uucp2.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Thu, 25 May 1995 09:26:07 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 08:53:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine/PGP interface In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.i > Comment: Processed by mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface. I've noticed a few messages mention mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface. Could someone fill me in on this package, how it interfaces to Pine, and where it can be obtained? Are there any alternatives? Thanks, =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jean Pierre LeJacq Quoin, Inc Suite 200 North local voice: +1.203.295.0874 124 Mount Auburn Street voice: +1.617.576.5885 Cambridge, MA 02138 fax: +1.617.576.5876 U.S.A. email: jplejacq@oops.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 08:40:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09809; Thu, 25 May 95 08:40:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24434; Thu, 25 May 95 08:33:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24423; Thu, 25 May 95 08:33:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEerc-00038KC; Thu, 25 May 95 08:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brad@his.com (Brad Knowles) Subject: Re: => MS-Mail gateway SMTP Non-documented error <= Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 01:39:38 -0500 Message-Id: References: <3pvf6g$l5n@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> <3pvqua$i8c@cssun.mathcs.emory.edu> <3pvukn$lso@clarknet.clark.net> <3q0lu2$ec@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Status: O X-Status: In article <3q0lu2$ec@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM>, csg@clavinova.eng.sun.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) wrote: > Two Sheds wrote: > >Fixed in the latest version, regardless of what MSFT says over the phone. > > Thanks for the corrections. > > The funny thing is that I wasn't told this by the support people, but by the > very engineering folks who were responsible for maintaining the gateway. This > was almost a year ago. It would appear that someone turned up the heat in an > effort to placate customers who are getting tired waiting for MS Exchange. > > This is all well and good guys (Hi Carl!), but I have to wonder what this has to do with half of the newsgroups to which this is being cross-posted. comp.mail.misc I can certainly see, and I can see arguments for some of the MTA-related newsgroups like comp.mail.sendmail, but comp.mail.zmail?!? C'mon, this is a competing MUA! I'm beginning to think I should push to have comp.mail.* reorganized into comp.mail.mta.* and comp.mail.mua.*, so that we can separate out some of these MUAs that can make use of most any MTA (and vice-versa), plus this would also let us have comp.mail.mta.advocacy and a comp.mail.mua.advocacy newsgroups, which I think would be more in line with the Usenet tradition. Thoughts? -- Brad Knowles brad@his.com comp.mail.sendmail FAQ Coordinator brad.knowles@his.com The comp.mail.sendmail FAQ is located at: Want to know about the latest version of BIND? Check out: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 09:04:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11234; Thu, 25 May 95 09:04:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27724; Thu, 25 May 95 08:58:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from coho.halcyon.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27718; Thu, 25 May 95 08:58:53 -0700 Received: by halcyon.com id AA19285 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Thu, 25 May 1995 08:58:52 -0700 From: John Aschenbrenner Message-Id: <199505251558.AA19285@halcyon.com> Subject: Creating an IMAP client for Windows. To: imap@cac.washington.edu Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 08:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Cc: c-client@cac.washington.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 525 Status: O X-Status: I am trying to develop email client software using winsock on a WinNT i386 platform (in my spare time) using Visual C++ 2.0 & MFC. Are any of you developing Windows mail clients as a learning experience? If so could I team up with you? I am a local resident (live in Puyallup, work in Bellevue) and have taken classes at the U of W. I am currently working on my C++ certificate and would like to gain some practical experience. -- John Aschenbrenner Work=(206) 644-2121 email=jma@halcyon.com Home=(206) 845-5120 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 09:21:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12011; Thu, 25 May 95 09:21:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28173; Thu, 25 May 95 09:07:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28167; Thu, 25 May 95 09:07:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEfMD-00038OC; Thu, 25 May 95 09:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jaffray@qlippoth.net (Alan Jaffray) Control: cancel Subject: Re: Adding custom headers to mail messages Message-Id: Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 05:30:22 GMT Status: O X-Status: cancelled from within strn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 10:54:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15787; Thu, 25 May 95 10:54:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27297; Thu, 25 May 95 10:44:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27291; Thu, 25 May 95 10:44:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEguP-00038IC; Thu, 25 May 95 10:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert S. Hilson <76737.1731@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Postscript vs. Encapsulated PS. Date: 25 May 1995 17:30:20 GMT Message-Id: <3q2erc$nfs$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> Status: O X-Status: I wish to send a fax via the remote printer server. I understand that I can send MIME compliant postscript files through this service. I created a EPS file using the both Ami Pro, and Windows Write utility by selecting a HP IIIP printer and printing to a file. Is this type of file MIME compliant? -- Robert S. Hilson Hamilton, ON, Canada 76737.1731@compuserve.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 10:56:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15939; Thu, 25 May 95 10:56:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00529; Thu, 25 May 95 10:46:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00523; Thu, 25 May 95 10:46:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEgx9-00038KC; Thu, 25 May 95 10:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: csg@clavinova.eng.sun.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) Subject: Re: => MS-Mail gateway SMTP Non-documented error <= Date: 24 May 1995 14:17:52 GMT Message-Id: <3pvf6g$l5n@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> References: Status: O X-Status: Daniel D'Ancona wrote: >I have an MS-Mail gateway for SMTP, version 3.0. Is it the latest version ? No, I believe there is one later version. >The external SMTP router says EHLO, my MS-gateway doesn't understand it and >closes connection. Yup. If the very first command to the MS server isn't HELO, it drops the connection, end of discussion. Microsoft had no plans to fix this. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 11:00:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16210; Thu, 25 May 95 11:00:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00718; Thu, 25 May 95 10:52:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pacifier.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00712; Thu, 25 May 95 10:52:13 -0700 Received: (user rmiller) by pacifier.com for pine-info@cac.washington.edu (Smail3.1.29.1 #6) id m0sEh4v-0008yoC; Thu, 25 May 95 10:52 PDT Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 10:52:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Miller To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Editing Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Prompted by the auto response to the B cmd, I'm initiating these questions/comments on Pine. How do you edit a previously sent e-mail if: a) the address needs a change or b) the text needs mods? Is there a description of what all the options in configure accomplish? ***I just noticed that the above sentence didnot wrap and display properly until I inserted a CR after "configure".*** Specifically, I wondered if I could prevent repetition of the notice that i'm at the beginning (or end) of a list, after I've depressed a key for long enough to seem like many strokes. After all, Pine seems to recognize the futility of my action. I've also had difficulties removing characters in the middle of previously typed paragraphs. Is there a clear explanation of the correct process? In a related matter, why does "Delete" act like "Backspace"? rather than removing the character under the cursor. The cleanest way I've found to date is to backspace (and remove) over characters, thus forcing a need to retype them, rather than "left arrow" and delete. Hope this is coherent and has answers, and I pray that not tooo many replies result. --- pacifier.com - Vancouver's Public access Internet (206) 693-0325 telnet or dial the above and type "new" at the prompt to register From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 11:08:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16581; Thu, 25 May 95 11:08:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00854; Thu, 25 May 95 10:56:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nudge.io.org by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00831; Thu, 25 May 95 10:56:18 -0700 Received: (from tcox@localhost) by nudge.io.org (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA19608; Thu, 25 May 1995 13:56:12 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 13:56:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Timothy D. A. Cox" To: John Aschenbrenner Cc: imap@cac.washington.edu, c-client@cac.washington.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Creating an IMAP client for Windows. In-Reply-To: <199505251558.AA19285@halcyon.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: John, I have successfully ported the c-client stuff from cac.washington to the Win32 platform. This was easy. The mtest program worked fine also. Were you thinking of IMAP2 or IMAP4? Tim On Thu, 25 May 1995, John Aschenbrenner wrote: > I am trying to develop email client software using winsock on a > WinNT i386 platform (in my spare time) using Visual C++ 2.0 & MFC. > Are any of you developing Windows mail clients as a learning experience? > If so could I team up with you? I am a local resident (live in Puyallup, > work in Bellevue) and have taken classes at the U of W. I am currently > working on my C++ certificate and would like to gain some practical > experience. > > -- > John Aschenbrenner Work=(206) 644-2121 > email=jma@halcyon.com Home=(206) 845-5120 > Timothy D. A. Cox TDAC Software Inc. 12 Miner Circle (905)940-1529/5502 fax Markham Ontario Canada L3R 1Y1 e-mail: tcox@io.org URL: http://www.io.org/~tcox From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 11:23:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17267; Thu, 25 May 95 11:23:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28124; Thu, 25 May 95 11:15:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28116; Thu, 25 May 95 11:15:37 -0700 Received: from trex (trex.kwantlen.bc.ca) by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA09818; Thu, 25 May 1995 11:15:31 -0700 Received: by trex (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA20694; Thu, 25 May 1995 11:15:30 +0800 Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 11:15:30 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dumaresq X-Sender: david@trex To: Richard Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Editing In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 896 Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 25 May 1995, Richard Miller wrote: > Prompted by the auto response to the B cmd, I'm initiating these > questions/comments on Pine. > How do you edit a previously sent e-mail if: > a) the address needs a change or Bounce asks what address to redirect the message to. > b) the text needs mods? > It sounds like what you really want to do is Forward a message. Forwarding lets you add text to the message before forwarding in on. David. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 12:41:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21023; Thu, 25 May 95 12:41:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00149; Thu, 25 May 95 12:36:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00141; Thu, 25 May 95 12:36:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEiel-00038DC; Thu, 25 May 95 12:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: allan@bart.IS.NET (Allan Chong) Subject: Not using flock Date: 25 May 1995 17:50:36 GMT Message-Id: <3q2g1c$aqj@news1.is.net> Status: O X-Status: Any way to configure pine to not use flock and only use the extra created file as a lock? Solaris's NFS locking is always broken. Reply by email to: allan@is.net Thanks, allan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 13:45:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23903; Thu, 25 May 95 13:45:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05002; Thu, 25 May 95 13:42:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04996; Thu, 25 May 95 13:42:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEjij-00038DC; Thu, 25 May 95 13:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Michael R. Dupree" Subject: Pine VAX/VMS Huji port wrapping problem Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 15:24:33 GMT Status: O X-Status: Has anyone had a problem with wrapping on the 80th character of the VAX/VMS port of Pine? I'm running the Huji beta 5 of 3.91; it seems that on any inverse line, the 80th character wraps to the first column of the next line, and all other characters ending on the 80th column are erased. Please note that this is consistant over a modem connection, and even locally off of terminals; I am in VT100 mode. Any help is greatly appreciated! - Mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 14:24:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25662; Thu, 25 May 95 14:24:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02202; Thu, 25 May 95 14:17:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02194; Thu, 25 May 95 14:17:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEkFQ-00038FC; Thu, 25 May 95 14:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Adriel Ickler Subject: Wild Card Distribution Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 11:51:03 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is there any way to make a wildcard sent message to everyone on the system (My own system here at work) I need to set up a distribution, and was hoping for a faster way than manually... Ex. I want to send a message to all users whose email name starts with "tx" (About 250 Users) I would GREATLY appreciate any help.. Adriel Ickler txickler@farinon.harris.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 15:16:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27853; Thu, 25 May 95 15:16:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07059; Thu, 25 May 95 15:12:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07052; Thu, 25 May 95 15:12:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEl7v-00038DC; Thu, 25 May 95 15:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harp@diesel.utcc.utk.edu (Sean Harp) Subject: Re: PINE 3.91 ported to AIX 4.1.2 yet? Date: 25 May 1995 20:42:20 GMT Message-Id: References: <3p57iv$1cn6@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> In-Reply-To: rob@genrad.com's message of 23 May 1995 22:03:13 -0400 Status: O X-Status: In article <3pu451INNa3j@pulsar.genrad.com> rob@genrad.com (Rob Wood) writes: [some stuff deleted] >In article <3p57iv$1cn6@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) writes: >> >>Yep, I can't compile anything on my 4.1.2 box either...compile it on a >>3.2.5 box and move the binaries over. Failing that, there are binaries >>for 3.2.5 on ftp.cac.washington.edu, you can use them just fine. Believe it or not, I actually got it to successfully build under AIX 4.1.2. I had to use the 3.2.5 compatibility stuff and termcap, but it did build. I can tar the binaries up for you if you'd like. Sean Harp University of Tennessee UNIX Systems Group From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 15:52:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29457; Thu, 25 May 95 15:52:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04018; Thu, 25 May 95 15:47:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04012; Thu, 25 May 95 15:47:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEldO-00038DC; Thu, 25 May 95 15:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Wesley J. Kaufmann" Subject: pine 3.91 on hp-ux Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 18:00:16 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have found a problem with pine 3.91. It seems that certain newsgroups that are advertised on our news server will not be picked up by pine. I've gotten a few complaints and it seems to focus around some of the alt.sex news groups. Are the people at washington into censorship? wes GW, Data Network Administrator wes@nodemgr.gwu.edu ~~ The opinions expressed are my own and not of GW. I'm not ~~ ~~ Responsible for the misuse or misquoting of any message ~~ ~~ or the misinterpretation. Have a nice day, don't blame me ~~ ~~ if you don't. ~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 16:56:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02524; Thu, 25 May 95 16:56:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09316; Thu, 25 May 95 16:52:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09310; Thu, 25 May 95 16:52:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEmfI-00038HC; Thu, 25 May 95 16:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: 1842248.42663942@psg.com(Your@psg.com, Lifetime@psg.com, Health@psg.com, Planner) Date: 24 May 1995 16:59:38 GMT Message-Id: Control: cancel <3puj2q$jgo@baygull.rtd.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <3puj2q$jgo@baygull.rtd.com> Status: O X-Status: Excessive multi-posting (aka spam) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 25 22:57:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12177; Thu, 25 May 95 22:57:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10149; Thu, 25 May 95 22:53:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10143; Thu, 25 May 95 22:53:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEsKA-00038DC; Thu, 25 May 95 22:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pww@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Philip Wirtz) Subject: CMS "names" list --> Pine Address Book Date: 25 May 1995 15:17:09 -0400 Message-Id: <3q2l3l$cjg@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Does anyone know of a utility which will take an ASCII representation of a CMS "NAMES" file (the equivalent of an Address Book) and convert it to Pine Address Book format? TIA // PWW From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 00:44:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14957; Fri, 26 May 95 00:44:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16256; Fri, 26 May 95 00:38:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16250; Fri, 26 May 95 00:38:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEtw3-00038DC; Fri, 26 May 95 00:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Alwis_Adrian HOHLWEG Subject: Different mail for different Mailboxes Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 02:13:28 GMT Status: O X-Status: I would like pine to automatically place mail that is sent to specific mailing lists into separate mail boxes in pine. For example: I am suscribed to the AD&D-l list, and would like all the messages that are addressed to this not to appear in INBOX, so as to keep this mail separate from personal mail. If somebody could help me I would greatly appreciate it! Alwis Hohlweg aahohlw@ecr.mu.oz.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 01:45:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16849; Fri, 26 May 95 01:45:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12163; Fri, 26 May 95 01:38:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12157; Fri, 26 May 95 01:38:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEupn-00038DC; Fri, 26 May 95 01:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nelson@crynwr.crynwr.com (Russell Nelson) Subject: Re: => MS-Mail gateway SMTP Non-documented error <= Date: 25 May 1995 02:14:13 GMT Message-Id: References: <3pvf6g$l5n@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> In-Reply-To: csg@clavinova.eng.sun.com's message of 24 May 1995 14:17:52 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <3pvf6g$l5n@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> csg@clavinova.eng.sun.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) writes: Yup. If the very first command to the MS server isn't HELO, it drops the connection, end of discussion. Microsoft had no plans to fix this. I have no plans to buy MS-Mail. -- -russ http://www.crynwr.com/~nelson Crynwr Software | Crynwr Software sells packet driver support | ask4 PGP key 11 Grant St. | +1 315 268 1925 (9201 FAX) | What is thee doing about it? Potsdam, NY 13676 | Help Phil Zimmerman! http://www.netresponse.com/zldf From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 01:58:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17093; Fri, 26 May 95 01:58:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17325; Fri, 26 May 95 01:48:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17319; Fri, 26 May 95 01:48:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEv2W-00038DC; Fri, 26 May 95 01:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Chajecki Subject: Re: Problems with ipop2d and imapd Date: 26 May 1995 08:11:01 GMT Message-Id: <3q42el$37@macondo.dmu.ac.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Pete, I don't know wether you have had a reply or solved the problem by now however: >I built pine, pico, ipop2d, ipop3d and imapd at the same time. >I then added the appropriate lines to /etc/inet/inetd.conf. The ID of the port in inetd.conf must match the one associated with the port number in /etc/services. So if in /etc/services you have imap2 143/tcp imap2 143/ucp ^^^^^ then in inetd.conf you should have something like imap2 stream tcp nowait root /bin/imapd imapd ^^^^^ I had 'imap2' in one and 'imap' in the other and had to make them the same to make it work. Make sure that the specified path to the binary is correct and pointing to the relevant binary. Make sure that the binary has been copied to the correct location (e.g. /usr/sbin or /bin) >However, telnetting into ports 109 and 143 doesn't work >("connection refused") although telnetting into port 110 is fine. Also make sure that the sendmail demon has been re-set and restarted. Hope this info is of some use! John Chajecki Network Technician School of the Built Environment De Montfort University jac@dmu.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 02:02:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17248; Fri, 26 May 95 02:02:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12307; Fri, 26 May 95 01:53:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12299; Fri, 26 May 95 01:53:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEv6s-00038DC; Fri, 26 May 95 01:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Pollak Subject: Re: Blind carbon copies Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 01:41:47 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3ptse2$p6b@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au> Status: O X-Status: On 23 May 1995, Geoffrey Day wrote: > Is is possible to have blind carbon copies in pine ? > > That is can you send out to a list of people so that they > only see their own address and not the complete list > of addresses it goes to. The blind copy, or bcc: function is easy to find -- just press Ctrl-R for "rich header." (You have to be in the header when you press it; otherwise, ctrl-r is the key for retrieving documents). Put your list name there, and you're halfway done. The second step is to put something in the To: line. I suggest Distribution List If you do that, everything is jake. But if you put nothing in the To: line, everyone on your list will gets a copy of the entire list, displaced to the bcc: line. Why, I don't know. But the function does work perfectly with that adjustment. Good luck, Michael __________________________________________________________________________ Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com It is a commonplace that's hardly worth A poet's while to make profound or terse, That now the sun does not go round the earth, That man's no centre of the universe; And working in an office makes it worse. --Auden, "Letter to Lord Byron" __________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 02:22:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17562; Fri, 26 May 95 02:22:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17616; Fri, 26 May 95 02:11:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17610; Fri, 26 May 95 02:11:19 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA13322; Fri, 26 May 95 11:09:27 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 11:09:27 +0200 (METDST) From: "Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD?=)" To: The Pine Discussion List Subject: Re: Problems with ipop2d and imapd In-Reply-To: <3q42el$37@macondo.dmu.ac.uk> Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: On 26 May 1995, John Chajecki wrote: > I don't know wether you have had a reply or solved the problem by now=20 > however: >=20 > >I built pine, pico, ipop2d, ipop3d and imapd at the same time. > >I then added the appropriate lines to /etc/inet/inetd.conf. >=20 > The ID of the port in inetd.conf must match the one associated with the= =20 > port number in /etc/services. So if in /etc/services you have >=20 > imap2 143/tcp > imap2 143/ucp > ^^^^^ > then in inetd.conf you should have something like >=20 > imap2 stream tcp nowait root /bin/imapd imapd > ^^^^^ >=20 > I had 'imap2' in one and 'imap' in the other and had to make them the=20 > same to make it work. Make sure that the specified path to the binary is= =20 > correct and pointing to the relevant binary. Make sure that the binary > has been copied to the correct location (e.g. /usr/sbin or /bin) And be sure imapd is executable (do chmod a+x imapd at an appropriate=20 directory). | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz Europe Home page: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-en.html Z=E1kladn=ED str=E1nka: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-cz.html Zakladni stranka: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-ce.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 04:40:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21346; Fri, 26 May 95 04:40:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19581; Fri, 26 May 95 04:33:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19575; Fri, 26 May 95 04:33:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sExeE-00038MC; Fri, 26 May 95 04:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aa293@detroit.freenet.org (Andrew P. Dinsdale) Subject: We Resrict users to /usr/local/rbin - How can 'spell' work? Date: 25 May 1995 20:54:01 GMT Message-Id: <3q2qp9$1k6@detroit.freenet.org> Status: O X-Status: Hi We have a restricted, not chroot I *must* add, environment where users can only execute programs in /usr/local/rbin. This includes Pine, Lynx their menus, cp, rm etc etc. Users execute Pine from a menu - so typing a number spawns /usr/local/rbin/pine. Everything works like a charm except for spell (^T). We have tried moving /usr/bin/spell into /usr/local/rbin (as well as all the programs used by spell) but still no cigar. When ^T is invoked Pine simply echoes back "Done Checking Spelling" with no corrections made. When I run Pine in a command tool I see "sh: /usr/bin/spell: restricted" - this does not surprise me as we are not giving users access to /usr/bin!!!! Now, what I need is some good advice on how to make Pine look for 'spell' in the users path NOT by looking for /usr/bin/spell. Has anyone hacked the source successfully (we tried that too) ?? Or can any Pine developers who read this group explain where I would change the code. Please help. Andrew Dinsdale -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 05:59:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23391; Fri, 26 May 95 05:59:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14840; Fri, 26 May 95 05:44:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14834; Fri, 26 May 95 05:44:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEyfy-00038HC; Fri, 26 May 95 05:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tim Naylor Subject: How to use KILL files? Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 08:56:21 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I know these can be appplied to other mailreaders (rn, trn), but can not find any reference to them in pine help. I subscribe to a large news group and would find it very helpful to exclude a couple of the contributors. Please post here or e-mail any info. Thanks. ______________________________________________________________ | Tim Naylor email: phrgv@csv.warwick.ac.uk | | Physics ASR Group | | University of Warwick tel: 01203 523903 | |___COVENTRY CV4 7AL, UK_________fax:____"____692016___________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 06:02:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23446; Fri, 26 May 95 06:02:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20593; Fri, 26 May 95 05:54:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20587; Fri, 26 May 95 05:54:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEyqe-00038HC; Fri, 26 May 95 05:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aks Subject: Re: PC-Pine and SLIP Date: 25 May 1995 21:02:46 GMT Message-Id: <3q2r9m$th2@news.cuny.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Switch to a MAC. I'm serious. economist From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 06:16:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23717; Fri, 26 May 95 06:16:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15089; Fri, 26 May 95 06:09:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15083; Fri, 26 May 95 06:09:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEz56-00038HC; Fri, 26 May 95 06:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andrew Douglas Inman Subject: WANTED: Kerberized POP that works w/ cclient stuff Date: 25 May 1995 04:26:25 GMT Message-Id: <3q10th$c8j@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Status: O X-Status: Has anyone out there found/written a Kerberized Pop server that works w/ the cclient libs and such that come w/ pine's imapd. The distribution comes w/ ipopd and I'm basically looking for a kerberized version. Any help would be appreciated. -- Andrew (ainman@umich.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 06:41:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24242; Fri, 26 May 95 06:41:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21096; Fri, 26 May 95 06:31:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21089; Fri, 26 May 95 06:31:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEzNU-00038HC; Fri, 26 May 95 06:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: knorwell@uoguelph.ca (Kay N Norwell) Subject: Re: Blind carbon copies Date: 26 May 1995 00:53:42 GMT Message-Id: <3q38qm$f5k@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <3ptse2$p6b@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au> Status: O X-Status: Geoffrey Day (geoffrey@hunter.cc.utas.edu.au) wrote: : Is is possible to have blind carbon copies in pine ? : That is can you send out to a list of people so that they : only see their own address and not the complete list : of addresses it goes to. : -- : Geoffrey Day Email : Geoff.Day@its.utas.edu.au : Systems Programmer Ph : (002) 20 7415 : I.T.S. University of Tasmania I can use RICH HEADER when composing email that lets me enter blind cc's and also indicate what folder to save the sent message to. You have to use CTRL-R when the cursor is in the address / upper section of the compose screen. Hope this is of help. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Kay Norwell, Animal Care Services (519) 824-4120 x4310 University of Guelph knorwell@uoguelph.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 06:49:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24437; Fri, 26 May 95 06:49:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15493; Fri, 26 May 95 06:39:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15487; Fri, 26 May 95 06:39:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sEzXb-00038HC; Fri, 26 May 95 06:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fox@panix.com (Lou Fox) Subject: Re: Somehow I am subscribed to all Newsgroups Help Date: 25 May 1995 10:00:25 -0400 Message-Id: <3q22hp$6vj@panix.com> References: <3pvl73$9j0@panix.com> Status: O X-Status: Thanks to everyone who helped me. I didn't know about the difference between ! and : before. Thanks again. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 07:18:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25269; Fri, 26 May 95 07:18:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15952; Fri, 26 May 95 07:12:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.bridgeway.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15946; Fri, 26 May 95 07:12:11 -0700 Received: by server.bridgeway.com id <207658>; Fri, 26 May 1995 07:12:10 -0700 Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 07:11:56 -0700 From: Andrew Le To: aks Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC-Pine and SLIP In-Reply-To: <3q2r9m$th2@news.cuny.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Yeah... I agree.. Go with a Macintosh (especially Power Macintosh, using the new PowerPC chip)! ================================================================== Andrew Le support@server.bridgeway.com Bridgeway Corporation 206-881-4270 ================================================================== On Thu, 25 May 1995, aks wrote: > Switch to a MAC. I'm serious. > > economist > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 08:35:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27549; Fri, 26 May 95 08:35:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16960; Fri, 26 May 95 08:23:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from igate.nrc.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16952; Fri, 26 May 95 08:23:08 -0700 Received: from pc22283 (pc22283.nrc.gov) by igate.nrc.gov (4.1/TMD1.6) id AA26180; Fri, 26 May 95 11:23:03 EDT Date: Fri, 26 May 95 11:23:03 EDT Message-Id: <9505261523.AA26180@igate.nrc.gov> X-Sender: jjflash@pop3.interramp.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu From: Jack Schnapper Subject: Status: O X-Status: subscribe pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 12:59:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08540; Fri, 26 May 95 12:59:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29510; Fri, 26 May 95 12:55:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29504; Fri, 26 May 95 12:54:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sF5Mg-00038FC; Fri, 26 May 95 12:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Chajecki Subject: Login names in PC pine Date: 26 May 1995 11:36:12 GMT Message-Id: <3q4efc$7fg@macondo.dmu.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: How do you get the users ID to be equal to the login name in PC pine? I am trying to set up a PC which will be used by a number of people to access their mail accounts on a remote server. The problem is that the users name that appears in the 'from' field of the e-mail header is always whatever is set in user-id in the config options regardles of what the user logs in with. How do I overide this with the log in name? John Chajecki Network Technician School of the Built Environment De Montfort University jac@dmu.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 13:47:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10753; Fri, 26 May 95 13:47:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00701; Fri, 26 May 95 13:42:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00695; Fri, 26 May 95 13:42:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sF5yn-00038DC; Fri, 26 May 95 13:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael S Hartman Subject: Re: How do i access a www page???? In-Reply-To: <199505261044.SAA21560@perth.DIALix.oz.au> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <199505261044.SAA21560@perth.DIALix.oz.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 11:36:19 GMT Status: O X-Status: Thanks everyone, i found out i need to type lynx before the web address, I dont have a mouse or browser! Mike H From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 14:13:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11575; Fri, 26 May 95 14:13:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24416; Fri, 26 May 95 14:06:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24410; Fri, 26 May 95 14:06:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sF6SD-00038FC; Fri, 26 May 95 13:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Virtual Joe Subject: Re: Is it possible to... Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 07:52:33 -0500 Message-Id: References: <3q2gme$g1k@mark.ucdavis.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3q2gme$g1k@mark.ucdavis.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 25 May 1995, Peter Lu'o'ng wrote: > ...mail an entire addressbook to another acct.? > Sure. Just do a CTRL-R to load in a file (into --Message Text--) and type in .addressbook in the space provided. Or just attach it by typing .addressbook into the Attchmnt: field. *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* *: Joe Ducharme jduche@creighton.edu :* *: Creighton University Omaha, NE USA 68178 :* *: << Joe's Roadside Attraction >> :* *: << http://bluejay.creighton.edu/~jduche/ >> :* *: "Time flies like an arrow, Fruit flies like a banana." :* *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 15:57:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15119; Fri, 26 May 95 15:57:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26238; Fri, 26 May 95 15:53:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26232; Fri, 26 May 95 15:53:49 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05262; Fri, 26 May 95 15:53:32 -0700 Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 15:53:27 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Rob Wood Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE 3.91 ported to AIX 4.1.2 yet? In-Reply-To: <3pu451INNa3j@pulsar.genrad.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 23 May 1995, Rob Wood wrote: > Date: 23 May 1995 22:03:13 -0400 > From: Rob Wood > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: PINE 3.91 ported to AIX 4.1.2 yet? > > What extension is the binary? This is what the README says: > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > unix-bin DIRECTORY: > Current Pine, Pico, and IMAPd binaries: > pine-bin.X > pico-bin.X > imapd-bin.X > where X may be: > sun = Sun SunOS 4.1.3 on SPARC hardware > solaris = Sun Solaris 2.2 on SPARC hardware > next = NeXTstep on NeXT hardware > ultrix = DEC Ultrix 4.x on MIPS processor > linux = Linux (Intel hardware) > hpux9 = HP/UX 9.01 > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > I don't see AIX or RS-6000 there. > rob@genrad.com > pine-bin.a32 is for AIX 3.2. I have tested it briefly on a 4.1 system we now have and it seems to work... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 16:02:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15277; Fri, 26 May 95 16:02:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26306; Fri, 26 May 95 15:59:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26300; Fri, 26 May 95 15:59:03 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05363; Fri, 26 May 95 15:58:47 -0700 Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 15:58:43 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: John Chajecki Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problems with ipop2d and imapd In-Reply-To: <3q42el$37@macondo.dmu.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 26 May 1995, John Chajecki wrote: > Date: 26 May 1995 08:11:01 GMT > From: John Chajecki > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Problems with ipop2d and imapd > > Pete, > > I don't know wether you have had a reply or solved the problem by now > however: > > >I built pine, pico, ipop2d, ipop3d and imapd at the same time. > >I then added the appropriate lines to /etc/inet/inetd.conf. > > The ID of the port in inetd.conf must match the one associated with the > port number in /etc/services. So if in /etc/services you have > > imap2 143/tcp > imap2 143/ucp > ^^^^^ > then in inetd.conf you should have something like > > imap2 stream tcp nowait root /bin/imapd imapd > ^^^^^ > > I had 'imap2' in one and 'imap' in the other and had to make them the > same to make it work. Make sure that the specified path to the binary is > correct and pointing to the relevant binary. Make sure that the binary > has been copied to the correct location (e.g. /usr/sbin or /bin) > > >However, telnetting into ports 109 and 143 doesn't work > >("connection refused") although telnetting into port 110 is fine. > > Also make sure that the sendmail demon has been re-set and restarted. > Hope this info is of some use! > Good explanation up to this point, but it is the inetd daemon than needs to be restarted, not sendmail... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 16:14:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15820; Fri, 26 May 95 16:14:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03650; Fri, 26 May 95 16:11:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03644; Fri, 26 May 95 16:11:20 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05657; Fri, 26 May 95 16:10:04 -0700 Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 16:10:00 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Aladdin Khamis Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Setting MY SMTP SERVER TO Work with PC-PINE? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 25 May 1995, Aladdin Khamis wrote: > On Thu, 18 May 1995, Aladdin Khamis wrote: > > Does anybody know how to set an SMTP server in UNIX, so PC-PINE is able > to use it and sends and receives E-mail ? This depends on what Mail Transport Agent (MTA) you are using, e.g. sendmail, smail, mmdf, pp, etc. What symptoms do you get when you try to use the system you sent this message from? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 16:22:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16028; Fri, 26 May 95 16:22:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26710; Fri, 26 May 95 16:18:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26704; Fri, 26 May 95 16:18:40 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05881; Fri, 26 May 95 16:18:34 -0700 Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 16:18:27 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Robyn Boyle Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Delivery Confirmation? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 23 May 1995, Robyn Boyle wrote: > Hi, > > This may be an incredibly ignorant question, if so, I apologise. > > On pegasus mail, there is a function whereby you can get notification that > your mail has actually been delivered to the other person's server. Is there > any such function on Pine? > > This becomes a very useful feature when people's servers go down, because it > enables you to ascertain whether your message has actually reached its > destination. I have encountered this problem recently. > I'm not sure what Pegasus is using, but it is probably just adding a Return-Receipt-To: header. You can do this in Pine on the Setup/Config screen by adding it to the customized-hdrs entry. Note that many servers do not reply to that header, thus making it of questionable value... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 16:32:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16339; Fri, 26 May 95 16:32:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03900; Fri, 26 May 95 16:25:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03894; Fri, 26 May 95 16:25:24 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06058; Fri, 26 May 95 16:25:21 -0700 Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 16:25:17 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "C.J. Mandrake" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.91/IMAP using rsh instead of imapd In-Reply-To: <3ptnab$ns6@news4.primenet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 23 May 1995, C.J. Mandrake wrote: > I am running Linux and just installed pine 3.91 and I am having problems > when trying to do the following.... > > pine -f {mailhost.primenet.com}/var/mail/cj > > It tries to do a rsh command to mailhost.primenet.com. This is the > command that it is trying to exec... > You can force Pine to skip trying rsh by changing the above command to pine -f {mailhost.primenet.com:143}/var/mail/cj or better yet pine -f {mailhost.primenet.com:143}INBOX |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 16:39:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16609; Fri, 26 May 95 16:39:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27022; Fri, 26 May 95 16:36:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27016; Fri, 26 May 95 16:36:21 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06530; Fri, 26 May 95 16:36:19 -0700 Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 16:36:06 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Joshua Hosseinoff Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine slow loading when internet down In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 24 May 1995, Joshua Hosseinoff wrote: > Last weekend our T1 line was out due to a power outage or some other > malfunction and so we were cut off from the outside internet. During > that time Pine would take nearly two minutes to load up. I tried > checking with the debug options on pine to see what it was doing, and as > far as I can tell it was either trying to ping the localhost or connect > to the smtp server on the localhost (I should note that during the > problem that if we tried telnetting or pinging ourselves it would connect > but only after a long wait). So does anyone know why pine needs to make > a tcpip connection during startup? Is it possible that Pine was waiting for DNS nameserver timeouts? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 16:40:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16646; Fri, 26 May 95 16:40:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04051; Fri, 26 May 95 16:34:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04045; Fri, 26 May 95 16:34:29 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06493; Fri, 26 May 95 16:34:25 -0700 Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 16:34:18 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Moshe Segal Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Legal status of Pc-Pine? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 24 May 1995, Moshe Segal wrote: > I recently downloaded the MSDOS version of Pine (pcpine_f.zip. I don't > have my own network, and access E-mail through my Unix account. The only > reason I wanted it was for the DOS version of the Pico editor, to use as > my message editor in conjunction with the Blue Wave Offline Mail Reader. > Those word-processing programs I would have chosen are too big to fit in > memory, and the two alternatives, TED3 (The editor that comes with BW) > and MSDOS's editor do not support the word-wrap, which leves me to worry > about new lines while losing my train of thought while I write. > > Now that I have it, this is my question: I saw no documentation, and no > license or registration form. What status does PC-Pine have? And also, > since I deleted all files except Pico.exe, what would be the legal > difference. Even freeware usually has some stipulation, but I am unclear > of what I am now expected to do. Please let me know. Thank you very much. > Pine and Pico are indeed freeware. There is no registration form to fill out. About the only restrictions are that you respect the Pine and Pico trademarks and copyrights or the University of Washington and don't use it commercially (i.e. don't sell it) without prior consent. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 16:46:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16758; Fri, 26 May 95 16:46:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04232; Fri, 26 May 95 16:41:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04226; Fri, 26 May 95 16:41:39 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06667; Fri, 26 May 95 16:41:37 -0700 Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 16:41:33 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jean Pierre LeJacq Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Customizing fill column in pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 24 May 1995, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote: > Is is possible in pine/pico to set which column to fill to as can > be done in emacs? > The next release of Pine will have this feature, but don't ask when it will be out, 'casue I don't know :) |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 16:46:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16794; Fri, 26 May 95 16:46:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27122; Fri, 26 May 95 16:42:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27116; Fri, 26 May 95 16:42:38 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06684; Fri, 26 May 95 16:42:33 -0700 Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 16:42:30 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Malachite Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: wanted: pine source code In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 24 May 1995, Malachite wrote: > Hey there! if anyone has the pine source code (yes, uncompiled) could > they please mail it to me? Thanks! > The Pine source is available in ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 16:59:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17174; Fri, 26 May 95 16:59:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04426; Fri, 26 May 95 16:55:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04420; Fri, 26 May 95 16:55:37 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06974; Fri, 26 May 95 16:55:34 -0700 Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 16:55:26 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Wesley J. Kaufmann" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine 3.91 on hp-ux In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 25 May 1995, Wesley J. Kaufmann wrote: > I have found a problem with pine 3.91. It seems that certain newsgroups > that are advertised on our news server will not be picked up by pine. > I've gotten a few complaints and it seems to focus around some of the > alt.sex news groups. Are the people at washington into censorship? > Pinbe doesn't do any censoring... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 16:59:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17203; Fri, 26 May 95 16:59:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27244; Fri, 26 May 95 16:54:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27238; Fri, 26 May 95 16:54:32 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06953; Fri, 26 May 95 16:54:29 -0700 Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 16:54:25 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Andrew P. Dinsdale" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: We Resrict users to /usr/local/rbin - How can 'spell' work? In-Reply-To: <3q2qp9$1k6@detroit.freenet.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 25 May 1995, Andrew P. Dinsdale wrote: > > Hi > > We have a restricted, not chroot I *must* add, environment where users > can only execute programs in /usr/local/rbin. This includes Pine, Lynx > their menus, cp, rm etc etc. Users execute Pine from a menu - so typing > a number spawns /usr/local/rbin/pine. Everything works like a charm > except for spell (^T). We have tried moving /usr/bin/spell into > /usr/local/rbin (as well as all the programs used by spell) but still > no cigar. When ^T is invoked Pine simply echoes back "Done Checking > Spelling" with no corrections made. When I run Pine in a command tool I > see "sh: /usr/bin/spell: restricted" - this does not surprise me as we > are not giving users access to /usr/bin!!!! > > Now, what I need is some good advice on how to make Pine look for 'spell' > in the users path NOT by looking for /usr/bin/spell. Has anyone hacked > the source successfully (we tried that too) ?? Or can any Pine developers > who read this group explain where I would change the code. > Before your menu calls Pine, have it set the SPELL environment variable to /usr/local/rbin/spell. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 17:02:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17289; Fri, 26 May 95 17:02:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04464; Fri, 26 May 95 16:58:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04456; Fri, 26 May 95 16:58:12 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07012; Fri, 26 May 95 16:57:55 -0700 Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 16:57:52 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Tim Naylor Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to use KILL files? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 26 May 1995, Tim Naylor wrote: > I know these can be appplied to other mailreaders (rn, trn), but can not > find any reference to them in pine help. I subscribe to a large news > group and would find it very helpful to exclude a couple of the contributors. > Please post here or e-mail any info. Thanks. > Pine does not support KILL files. They may be supported in a future release but probably not real soon... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 18:59:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20919; Fri, 26 May 95 18:59:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06451; Fri, 26 May 95 18:57:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06445; Fri, 26 May 95 18:57:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFAym-00038DC; Fri, 26 May 95 18:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: Is it possible to... Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 16:12:41 GMT Message-Id: References: <3q2gme$g1k@mark.ucdavis.edu> Status: O X-Status: Peter Lu'o'ng (ez055012@yogi.ucdavis.edu) wrote: : ...mail an entire addressbook to another acct.? Yes. Just mail the file ".addressbook" from the user's account as an attachment, and unpack it into the same place on the target account. This has worked for us here going from one Unix system to another without a hitch. The format is the same on all the platforms. DOS may be different, though, I don't know. Anyway, make sure that they don't mind losing what's in their existing addressbook when they bring over their other one. Merging them is a little more difficult, but can probably be achieved by unpacking the addressbook into a different file name and then catting it onto the end of the existing addressbook. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 19:20:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21274; Fri, 26 May 95 19:20:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29292; Fri, 26 May 95 19:17:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29286; Fri, 26 May 95 19:17:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFBKH-00038DC; Fri, 26 May 95 19:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: h9470007@hkusua (Special Weapons And Tactics) Subject: reading mail in PC, possible? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 18:20:58 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hello, I login in Unix and read mail by pine. I saved the mail in the folders. Is that posssible to read the folders in PC like reading it in pine. I heard there is something called PC-pine. Is the purpose of the PC-pine can provide the facilities that I requested? 'coz this is convenience for me to read the one folder containing many mail at home. SWAT (The Police Force) :) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 26 20:09:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22199; Fri, 26 May 95 20:09:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07325; Fri, 26 May 95 20:07:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07319; Fri, 26 May 95 20:07:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFC4Q-00038DC; Fri, 26 May 95 19:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccgreg@showme.missouri.edu (Greg Johnson ) Subject: Re: CMS "names" list --> Pine Address Book Date: 26 May 1995 19:14:47 GMT Message-Id: <3q59b7$pu7@news.missouri.edu> References: <3q2l3l$cjg@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Philip Wirtz (pww@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu) wrote: : Does anyone know of a utility which will take an ASCII representation of : a CMS "NAMES" file (the equivalent of an Address Book) and convert it to : Pine Address Book format? TIA // PWW I made a perl script to do just that: ftp://musie.phlab.missouri.edu/pub/misc/n2a.gz -- Greg Johnson, U of Missouri Columbia Campus Computing From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 27 00:55:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28081; Sat, 27 May 95 00:55:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03045; Sat, 27 May 95 00:52:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03039; Sat, 27 May 95 00:52:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFGYF-00038DC; Sat, 27 May 95 00:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cj@primenet.com (C.J. Mandrake) Subject: Pine 3.91/Linux/Imap problem Date: 26 May 1995 00:59:55 GMT Message-Id: <3q396b$vt@news4.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: I am having a problem with pine 3.91 and linux using imap. When I try to access my mailbox it tries to run a remote shell command to execute /etc/rimapd. It hangs for a long time. This was originally happening with pine 3.89 and I saw a post saying that 3.91 fixes that problem, but no luck after installing 3.91. It works fine for the same imap server from a BSD machine running 3.91 on our network. Can anyone help? I am pretty desperate at this point. CJ Mandrake -- o __ / | "I do not feel obliged to believe that \___/|/ @primenet.com the same God who has endowed us with sense, /| Primenet Support reason, and intellect has intended us to \| forgo their use." - Gallileo Galilei From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 27 03:18:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01381; Sat, 27 May 95 03:18:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12752; Sat, 27 May 95 03:13:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12746; Sat, 27 May 95 03:13:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFIhJ-00038HC; Sat, 27 May 95 03:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ez055012@yogi.ucdavis.edu (Peter Lu'o'ng) Subject: Is it possible to... Date: 25 May 1995 18:01:50 GMT Message-Id: <3q2gme$g1k@mark.ucdavis.edu> Status: O X-Status: ...mail an entire addressbook to another acct.? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 27 04:55:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03792; Sat, 27 May 95 04:55:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05828; Sat, 27 May 95 04:53:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05822; Sat, 27 May 95 04:53:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFKGR-00038HC; Sat, 27 May 95 04:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cfs@mathcs.emory.edu (Charles Stephens ) Subject: Re: => MS-Mail gateway SMTP Non-documented error <= Date: 24 May 1995 17:38:18 GMT Message-Id: <3pvqua$i8c@cssun.mathcs.emory.edu> References: <3pvf6g$l5n@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Status: O X-Status: Carl S. Gutekunst (csg@clavinova.eng.sun.com) wrote: : Daniel D'Ancona wrote: : >I have an MS-Mail gateway for SMTP, version 3.0. Is it the latest version ? : No, I believe there is one later version. : >The external SMTP router says EHLO, my MS-gateway doesn't understand it and : >closes connection. : Yup. If the very first command to the MS server isn't HELO, it drops the : connection, end of discussion. Microsoft had no plans to fix this. Will Macrosloth win this one w/ every SMTP mail server?!?!? I don't think so. cfs -- /-------------------\ Charles "Cyber-Buddha" Stephens | HELLO, my name is | UNIX Systems Administrator |-------------------| Network Systems/Open Systems Group, | cfs@emory.edu | Information Technology Division, | Charles Stephens | Emory University, Atlanta, Georgia, USA | | "You shall soon achieve perfection." -Fortune Cookie \-------------------/ http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~cfs From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 27 05:06:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04071; Sat, 27 May 95 05:06:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05909; Sat, 27 May 95 05:01:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from barb.wchat.on.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05903; Sat, 27 May 95 05:01:36 -0700 Received: from barb.wchat.on.ca by barb.wchat.on.ca id aa21529; 27 May 95 7:51 EDT Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 07:51:52 -0400 (EDT) From: doom To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Unsubscribe pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 27 05:20:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04401; Sat, 27 May 95 05:20:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14369; Sat, 27 May 95 05:18:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14363; Sat, 27 May 95 05:18:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFKgr-00038HC; Sat, 27 May 95 05:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: reichera@clark.net (A. Reichert) Subject: Re: "Reply to:" Date: 19 May 1995 12:13:38 GMT Message-Id: <3pi21i$onq@clarknet.clark.net> References: <3pfp90$r8r@news.cuny.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: In your .pinerc file, add "Reply-To: " as a custom header. - Alan David Godinger (daveg@imageek.york.cuny.edu) wrote: : How can I add "Reply to:" in the header? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 27 05:28:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04495; Sat, 27 May 95 05:28:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06123; Sat, 27 May 95 05:23:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06117; Sat, 27 May 95 05:23:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFKld-00038KC; Sat, 27 May 95 05:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccurtis@ee.fit.edu (Christopher W. Curtis) Subject: Pine 3.92 feature request Message-Id: Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 20:44:42 GMT Status: O X-Status: Would it be possible to put the amount of space used by INBOX somewhere in the header line where it specifies which message you are on, etc? For Example, why is that there? The messages are numbered ... I do like knowing the total number of messages, tho, for when the last one scrolls off the bottom of the screen. (apologies for the cryptic-ness of the message, btw, in a hurry...) -- T | Christopher Curtis | | O E | Sun Lab System Administrator | If at first you don't succeed, | S A | Florida Institute of Technology | skydiving is not for you. | / M | Melbourne, Florida N|N | 2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 27 05:58:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05006; Sat, 27 May 95 05:58:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14776; Sat, 27 May 95 05:53:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14770; Sat, 27 May 95 05:53:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFLFM-00038HC; Sat, 27 May 95 05:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gjrsoft@cais2.cais.com (Gene J. Raymond) Subject: Re: .pine-debug1 Date: 25 May 1995 19:03:55 GMT Message-Id: <3q2kar$hm9@news.cais.com> References: <3q0281$dr6@woof.cs.utexas.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <3q0281$dr6@woof.cs.utexas.edu>, Ananda M. Kar wrote: > To stop the creation of debug files start PINE with "pine -d0". That's an OK solution. Could you expand on it a little bit? There must be a way when building pine to say that -d0 (no debug files) is the default, yet when I built 3.91, I didn't see any specific documentation referring to what files could be used for customizing the build. The default, evidently, is to produce the debug files; what I'd like is just the opposite. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* Gene J. Raymond gjrsoft@cais.com (primary) GJRSoft@aol.com GJR Software Products PO Box 3416 Se habla espanol. Merrifield, VA 22116-3416 On parle francais. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 27 06:38:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05619; Sat, 27 May 95 06:38:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06709; Sat, 27 May 95 06:33:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06697; Sat, 27 May 95 06:33:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFLrj-00038HC; Sat, 27 May 95 06:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lmiller@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx (Larry Miller [DT]) Subject: Re: un-mimed smaller: strange? Date: 24 May 1995 12:19:37 -0600 Message-Id: <3pvtbp$f0r@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx> References: Status: O X-Status: R. R. Neuswanger writes: > What seems very odd is that the message with the encoded file was > 34K, while the one with it in clear was only 24K. Now, if mime is among > other things a replacement for uuencode, and uuencode functions among > other things to *compress* a message ... uuencode compresses messages? I haven't seen that. You sure? Saludos-- Larry Miller Administrador de Redes / Network Administrator Centro de Investigaciones Biologicas del Noroeste, La Paz, BCS Mexico lmiller@cibnor.conacyt.mx From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 27 09:01:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08119; Sat, 27 May 95 09:01:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16878; Sat, 27 May 95 08:57:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16872; Sat, 27 May 95 08:57:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFODZ-00038IC; Sat, 27 May 95 08:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Chajecki Subject: Legal status of pine Date: 26 May 1995 11:30:55 GMT Message-Id: <3q4e5f$7fg@macondo.dmu.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Someone posted an article asking for the Legal status of Pine. The article seems to have since disappeared from the list. The following is an excerpt from the technical notes for Pine which have to be downloaded seperately from the main distribution: > Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute > this software and its documentation for any pur- > pose and without fee to the University of Washing- > ton is hereby granted, provided that the above > copyright notice appears in all copies and that > both the above copyright notice and this permis- > sion notice appear in supporting documentation, > and that the name of the University of Washington > not be used in advertising or publicity pertaining > to distribution of the software without specific, > written prior permission. This software is made > available as is. > > THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON DISCLAIMS ALL WARRAN- > TIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, WITH REGARD TO THIS > SOFTWARE, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION ALL IMPLIED > WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A > PARTICULAR PURPOSE, AND IN NO EVENT SHALL THE > UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPE- > CIAL, INDIRECT OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR ANY > DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, > DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, John Chajecki Network Technician School of the Built Environment De Montfort University jac@dmu.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 27 09:26:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08624; Sat, 27 May 95 09:26:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17238; Sat, 27 May 95 09:23:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17232; Sat, 27 May 95 09:23:14 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14249; Sat, 27 May 95 09:23:04 -0700 Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 09:23:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: John Chajecki Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Legal status of pine In-Reply-To: <3q4e5f$7fg@macondo.dmu.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: In addition to the text included below, there are two more important pieces to the story: Pine and Pico are trademarks of the University of Washington. No commercial use of these trademarks may be made without prior written permission of the University of Washington. Pine and Pico software and its included text are Copyright 1989-1994 by the University of Washington. These paragraphs and the text below are included at the end of the Release Notes ("R" on the Main Menu.) -teg On 26 May 1995, John Chajecki wrote: > Someone posted an article asking for the Legal status of Pine. The > article seems to have since disappeared from the list. The following is > an excerpt from the technical notes for Pine which have to be downloaded > seperately from the main distribution: > > > Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute > > this software and its documentation for any pur- > > pose and without fee to the University of Washing- > > ton is hereby granted, provided that the above > > copyright notice appears in all copies and that > > both the above copyright notice and this permis- > > sion notice appear in supporting documentation, > > and that the name of the University of Washington > > not be used in advertising or publicity pertaining > > to distribution of the software without specific, > > written prior permission. This software is made > > available as is. > > > > THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON DISCLAIMS ALL WARRAN- > > TIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, WITH REGARD TO THIS > > SOFTWARE, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION ALL IMPLIED > > WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A > > PARTICULAR PURPOSE, AND IN NO EVENT SHALL THE > > UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPE- > > CIAL, INDIRECT OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR ANY > > DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, > > DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, > > John Chajecki > Network Technician > School of the Built Environment > De Montfort University > jac@dmu.ac.uk > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 27 11:47:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11082; Sat, 27 May 95 11:47:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09690; Sat, 27 May 95 11:43:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09684; Sat, 27 May 95 11:43:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFQo7-00038MC; Sat, 27 May 95 11:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: coronell@unr.edu (Chuck Coronella) Subject: pine for OS/2? Date: 26 May 1995 22:54:53 GMT Message-Id: <3q5m7t$2mo@silver.scs.unr.edu> Status: O X-Status: I've been unable to find pine for OS/2. Does it exist? How about pico for OS/2? These would surely be useful to me, and I'm sure to others. Chuck Coronella Chemical & Metallurgical Engineering Department University of Nevada, Reno coronell@unr.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 27 12:11:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11574; Sat, 27 May 95 12:11:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19307; Sat, 27 May 95 12:08:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19301; Sat, 27 May 95 12:08:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFR8g-00038IC; Sat, 27 May 95 12:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: spock@Glue.umd.edu (Scott Lawrence) Subject: Any pattern-matching and filtering capability in Pine 3.91 Date: 26 May 1995 10:08:49 -0400 Message-Id: <3q4ndi$1fp@latte.eng.umd.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: I'm a new user of Pine (only started using it this month), and would like to know if Pine has any utilities for redirecting mail to specific folders based on their subject or their sender. If Pine lacks such utilities, are there others that can do the same thing? If the only thing that will do the job is the utility "filter", examples of rules files would be greatly appreciated. Scott From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 27 14:20:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13843; Sat, 27 May 95 14:20:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11088; Sat, 27 May 95 14:15:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11082; Sat, 27 May 95 14:15:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFT8h-00038XC; Sat, 27 May 95 14:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pjh@mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg) Subject: Re: Why is my name in quotes? Message-Id: Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 20:44:36 GMT References: <3prgrt$8i5@sundog.tiac.net> Status: O X-Status: Larry Brinton (brinton@saclant.nato.int) wrote: : Because you have a special character in your name... the period after the : H. Remove the dot and the quotes go away. What would happen if he had Peter H\. Lemieux??? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 27 18:00:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17631; Sat, 27 May 95 18:00:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23456; Sat, 27 May 95 17:56:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23450; Sat, 27 May 95 17:56:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFWaQ-00038KC; Sat, 27 May 95 17:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gaba@hpp.stanford.edu (David M. Gaba) Subject: Help on exiting Pine leaving mailbox untouched Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 11:46:34 -0800 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Hi: I usually read my email using Eudora on a Macintosh. However, when I'm on the road I log in via a simple terminal emulator and have been using ELM to read my mail. ELM is OK except for having to use the vi or emacs editor which is pretty bad. I have tried using PINE which seems a lot better, HOWEVER, I have this problem: When I used to use ELM I was able to leave my ,messages untouched even though I had read some of the messages, by exiting via "X" rather than via "Q". This then allowed me to read ALL of the messages (both the unread and the previously read ones) with Eudora when I got back to the office. I haven't been able to do this using PINE. Any message that was "previously read" is ignored by Eudora. I can't find anything on the WWW site FAQ about this. I'm sure it's a simple matter, but being too simple, I haven't figured it out yet. Any help will be appreciated. Please email me (gaba@hpp.stanford.edu) rather than posting, although I will check this group for a while. Thanks, David Gaba Stanford University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 27 19:04:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18649; Sat, 27 May 95 19:04:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13682; Sat, 27 May 95 19:02:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13676; Sat, 27 May 95 19:02:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFXee-00038IC; Sat, 27 May 95 19:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry) Subject: PINE, please don't generate headers Date: 26 May 1995 18:28:05 -0400 Message-Id: <3q5kll$5pa@ocean.CAM.ORG> Status: O X-Status: Quite a while ago, I noticed that the message IDs of the messages coming from PINE do not use the FQDN of the sending host. The reason? It does a simple uname() call (or something similar, I forget) to fetch the node name, which is not the FQDN. I left this alone because it's not a big deal. But IMHO it would be better to not generate any such headers and leave the task to the MTS. That's how it works with most/all other MUAs. Recently, I ran into the same problem with From: lines. Not all of our users live under the same domain name. We have some which are mapped to other names (different domain name, possibly different username) using sendmail 8.6.x's userdb facility. Our mail configuration accomodates this well. But PINE insists on slapping a constant string on the end of the username. The solution I've used for both problems is the same: supress the generation of the Message-ID: and From: headers in outgoing mail & news. Why doesn't PINE work that way in the first place? It doesn't make sense for the MUA to compute the correct values of those headers. It makes many MUAs to configure when we could get away with only configuring the MDA. Not to mention complex configurations supported by sendmail but not some or all MUAs! My 2 cents... If anyone is interested in my patches to pine-3.91 to supress these headers (including the implementation of posting via inews since it was previously unimplemented), mail me. -Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 27 21:35:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21097; Sat, 27 May 95 21:35:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25924; Sat, 27 May 95 21:32:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25918; Sat, 27 May 95 21:32:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFa0T-00038MC; Sat, 27 May 95 21:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bdan@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN (root) Subject: BUGS: Select command ";" did NOT work ?? Date: 27 May 1995 02:56:14 GMT Message-Id: <3q64ce$fdb@hecate.umd.edu> Status: O X-Status: In Linux, Ultrix and maybe others unix, the Selection, Zoom and Apply commands did NOT work. Please take a look the following code in "pine3.91/pine/mailcmd.c". /*------- Make Selection -----------*/ case OOPF5: case ';': /* if(!in_index || F_OFF(F_ENABLE_AGG_OPS, state)) */ /* ^^^^^^ RETURN TRUE ??? ^^^^^^^ */ if(!in_index) /* <<< THIS WORK FOR MINE >>> */ goto bogus; if(mn_get_total(msgmap) > 0L){ aggregate_select(state, msgmap, question_line); cur_msgno = mn_get_cur(msgmap); } else q_status_message(0, 0, 2, "\007No message in folder"); break; /*------- Apply command -----------*/ -- _____________________________ _____ | Bryan Dan \ \ \__ _____ | bdan@otal.umd.edu \___________\ \/_______\___\_____________ | bdan@smartguy.umd.edu / ( /_/ ..................... `-. |_____________________________/ `-----------,----,--------------' _/____/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 27 22:04:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21718; Sat, 27 May 95 22:04:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15373; Sat, 27 May 95 22:02:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15367; Sat, 27 May 95 22:02:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFaRa-00038IC; Sat, 27 May 95 21:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bill Wohler Subject: Re: => MS-Mail gateway SMTP Non-documented error <= Date: 27 May 1995 04:18:30 GMT Message-Id: <3q696m$dmg@hustle.rahul.net> References: <3pvf6g$l5n@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Status: O X-Status: In <3pvf6g$l5n@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> csg@clavinova.eng.sun.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) writes: >Daniel D'Ancona wrote: >>The external SMTP router says EHLO, my MS-gateway doesn't understand it and >>closes connection. >Yup. If the very first command to the MS server isn't HELO, it drops the >connection, end of discussion. Microsoft had no plans to fix this. And Microsoft wants to own the Internet? Scary. I'm looking gleefully forward to the day that their "Network" dies a well-deserved death. How can a company that spews out so much brain-damaged software be so successful? Guess cause dopes like us buy it. Just say NO to Microsoft. -- Bill Wohler ph: +1-415-854-1857 fax: +1-415-854-3195 Worldtalk Corporation ph: +1-408-399-4015 fax: +1-408-399-4013 Maintainer of comp.mail.mh Say it with MIME. and news.software.nn FAQs. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 27 22:29:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22143; Sat, 27 May 95 22:29:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26600; Sat, 27 May 95 22:27:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26594; Sat, 27 May 95 22:27:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFap1-00038KC; Sat, 27 May 95 22:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: axinar@one.net (John S. Kennedy) Subject: Attaching files in Pine? Date: 27 May 1995 04:22:38 GMT Message-Id: <3q69ee$acg@mail.one.net> Status: O X-Status: Maybe I missed something entirely obvious ... but how do you attach an 8 bit file to a Pine message? Thanks! John From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 28 01:45:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26071; Sun, 28 May 95 01:45:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17625; Sun, 28 May 95 01:42:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17619; Sun, 28 May 95 01:42:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFduu-00038IC; Sun, 28 May 95 01:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: Somehow I am subscribed to all Newsgroups Help Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 13:43:10 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3pvl73$9j0@panix.com> Status: O X-Status: Use vi or some other simple find and replace text tool and replace all of the ":" with "!" in your .newsrc. That should unsubscribe you to everything. I'm not sure what happens if you have a truncated or shortened .newsrc like you describe. If this doesn't work, copy one of your friend's over to your account and then do the find and replace again. Ian On 24 May 1995, Lou Fox wrote: > I don't know how it happenned but pine has me subscribed to every > newsgroup. I tried deleting my .newsrc file, which seemed to work > because then I was subscribed to nothing. So I subscribed to a couple of > my favorite newsgroups, only to find that once I logged back into pine I > was once again subscribed to all newsgroups. Help. I don't understand > how to fix this. > > Thanks. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 28 01:47:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26154; Sun, 28 May 95 01:47:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29018; Sun, 28 May 95 01:42:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29012; Sun, 28 May 95 01:42:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFdv1-00038KC; Sun, 28 May 95 01:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: 'Catch-up' function at pine Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 14:00:48 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 23 May 1995, Andreas Reimann wrote: > Hi there, > > just a short question about the pine program: > > Is there a possibility to 'catch up' (=mark all articles > of a newsgroup as read) a newsgroup? > > If yes, I would be happy if someone could send me how to do > by email!!! Enable the news-approximates-new-status option in Setup/Config. If this is enabled, pine assumes that all news articles before the last one that you deleted have already been read. So, all you have to do is delete the last message that you read (doesn't actually delete --- just marks it as deleted) and when you return to read news the next day, it will start at the first article that you haven't read. I haven't bothered to confirm this, but I think that if you delete the very last article in a newsgroup, it doesn't work. I usually delete the second to the last article and make sure that the last article is unread. Ian From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 28 02:00:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26505; Sun, 28 May 95 02:00:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17745; Sun, 28 May 95 01:57:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17739; Sun, 28 May 95 01:57:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFe8l-00038IC; Sun, 28 May 95 01:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag853@ccn.cs.dal.ca (Cassie Shannahan) Subject: Snipping with Pine Message-Id: Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 19:52:20 GMT Status: O X-Status: I'm a part of a mailing list, and when I'm replying to several posts at the same time, I'd like to be able to "snip" parts of the mailing list (which I receive in digest form) so my reply won't be too long. I've been told by other members of this mailing list that this is possible with Pine, and I was wondering how. Please help!!! Cassie Shannahan -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 28 02:05:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26601; Sun, 28 May 95 02:05:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29235; Sun, 28 May 95 02:02:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29229; Sun, 28 May 95 02:02:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFeCE-00038IC; Sun, 28 May 95 01:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: Help on exiting Pine leaving mailbox untouched Date: 27 May 1995 15:06:23 -0500 Message-Id: <3q80nv$a6v@woof.cs.utexas.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: [ gaba@hpp.stanford.edu (David M. Gaba) wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] -> ELM is OK except for having to use the vi or emacs editor which is pretty bad. ^^^^^^^^^^^ You must be kidding. Ananda -- Ananda M. Kar |(H)458-9754 | URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/ananda/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 28 05:37:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01277; Sun, 28 May 95 05:37:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19894; Sun, 28 May 95 05:33:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19888; Sun, 28 May 95 05:33:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFhWi-00038OC; Sun, 28 May 95 05:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu (Supak Lailert) Subject: Re: Snipping with Pine Date: 28 May 1995 10:08:51 GMT Message-Id: <3q9i3j$q39@gondor.sdsu.edu> References: <3q8q51$c3a@epx.cis.umn.edu> Status: O X-Status: Dan Rogovin (rogo0009@maroon.tc.umn.edu) wrote: : On Sat, 27 May 1995 19:52:20 GMT, Cassie Shannahan (ag853@ccn.cs.dal.ca) wrote: : : I'm a part of a mailing list, and when I'm replying to several posts at : : the same time, I'd like to be able to "snip" parts of the mailing list : : (which I receive in digest form) so my reply won't be too long. I've been : : told by other members of this mailing list that this is possible with : : Pine, and I was wondering how. Please help!!! : Hit ctrl-K to delete a line. And if you want to cut many lines of text, use Ctrl-^ to select text then use Ctrl-K to delete. Supak -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Supak Lailert -- MBA (IS) Program, San Diego State University >> >> lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 28 09:13:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04456; Sun, 28 May 95 09:13:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04408; Sun, 28 May 95 09:08:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04402; Sun, 28 May 95 09:08:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFksN-00038OC; Sun, 28 May 95 09:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Pine slow loading when internet down Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 11:45:15 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 27 May 1995, Joshua Hosseinoff wrote: > On 26 May 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > > Is it possible that Pine was waiting for DNS nameserver timeouts? > > > > Quite likely in fact, but why should Pine need to contact the nameserver > in order to start up. [...] I have encountered a similar problem with Pine 3.91 on a Unix system. Although I know what's going on, it is irritating nonetheless. I usually start Pine with the -l parameter so that my folder collections for mail and news are already setup. (My personal style is that I often flip back and forth between them.) Now, the news server on the system I use often seems to be a bit flaky, going up and down several times a session when things are bad. If it goes down behind the curtains (i.e., unknown to me) and I try to flip folder collections, Pine seems as if it is hung, when in fact it is futilely trying to bang on the news server's door, but the news server is unconscious. This brings everything to a screeching halt until something or other finally times out and Pine finally gives up with an error message and at least lets me use the local folder collection. I don't know whether the timeout interval can be set, but it is exasperatingly long. Sometimes the screen blanker on my PC has even kicked in. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 28 09:18:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04523; Sun, 28 May 95 09:18:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21734; Sun, 28 May 95 09:13:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21728; Sun, 28 May 95 09:13:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFkwm-00038OC; Sun, 28 May 95 09:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joshua Hosseinoff Subject: Re: Pine slow loading when internet down Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 22:52:43 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 26 May 1995, David L Miller wrote: > Is it possible that Pine was waiting for DNS nameserver timeouts? > Quite likely in fact, but why should Pine need to contact the nameserver in order to start up. All it should have to do is read in pine-conf files and a user's Inbox. If the reason why Pine needs to contact the nameserver is to determine our hostname and domain name, is there a way that I can hardcode our hostname so that in future outages and when there are lags at our nameserver Pine will start up immediately? Thanks Josh Hosseinoff hosseino@yu1.yu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 28 09:33:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04798; Sun, 28 May 95 09:33:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04614; Sun, 28 May 95 09:28:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04608; Sun, 28 May 95 09:28:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFlBW-00038OC; Sun, 28 May 95 09:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Moshe Segal Subject: Re: Quote longer than reply Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 11:44:00 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3pthpq$1pt7@rs7.loc.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Actually, the thing that annoys me more than quotes that are longer than the new text is those people who reply immediately, and then leave the entire message, including the sig, in tact at the end. I get the impression that my responder has much more to say than he/she really does, and what probably happened is that there was no real intention to make any quotations. Pine gives a prompt for both mail and news concerning "include original message ... " It shouldn't be that hard to just say no if you are sure the recipient will remember his/her own subject. You're not the only one who's made mistakes Moshe E. SEgal But they're the only things 1336 Cory Drive That you can truly call your own Dayton, Oh 45406 Some people hope for a miracle cure, s010mes@discover.wright.edu Some people just accept the world as it is. (513) 279-0438 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 28 09:50:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05052; Sun, 28 May 95 09:50:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21997; Sun, 28 May 95 09:44:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21991; Sun, 28 May 95 09:44:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFlNs-00038OC; Sun, 28 May 95 09:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rogo0009@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Dan Rogovin) Subject: Re: Snipping with Pine Date: 28 May 1995 03:20:01 GMT Message-Id: <3q8q51$c3a@epx.cis.umn.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 27 May 1995 19:52:20 GMT, Cassie Shannahan (ag853@ccn.cs.dal.ca) wrote: : I'm a part of a mailing list, and when I'm replying to several posts at : the same time, I'd like to be able to "snip" parts of the mailing list : (which I receive in digest form) so my reply won't be too long. I've been : told by other members of this mailing list that this is possible with : Pine, and I was wondering how. Please help!!! Hit ctrl-K to delete a line. -- ======Dan Rogovin ======¸Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, People want to know why I do this, why I write such|Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, gross stuff. I like to tell them I have the heart|Spamity Spaaaaaaaaaaam, of a small boy -- and I keep it in a jar on my desk|wonderful Spaaaaaaaaam! Stephen King--|--"Monty Python" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 28 09:56:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05138; Sun, 28 May 95 09:56:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22087; Sun, 28 May 95 09:54:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22081; Sun, 28 May 95 09:54:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFlXs-00038RC; Sun, 28 May 95 09:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Abraham Gutman Subject: Spanish Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 12:23:13 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Has anyone out there taken the source code for Pine and translated the command labels into spanish? Thanks, Abraham From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 28 09:59:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05221; Sun, 28 May 95 09:59:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04887; Sun, 28 May 95 09:54:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04881; Sun, 28 May 95 09:53:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFlXr-00038OC; Sun, 28 May 95 09:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Abraham Gutman Subject: Simple Highlighting Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 12:22:01 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is there a way on 3.91 to highlight text with either "bold" or "underline" formats? This is probably tricky since every terminal (dumb) probably uses different control characters for this feature. I am looking for this on VTxxx environments. If not on 3.91, are there plans for this? Thanks, Abraham From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 28 10:52:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06029; Sun, 28 May 95 10:52:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05593; Sun, 28 May 95 10:49:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05587; Sun, 28 May 95 10:49:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFmQ0-00038OC; Sun, 28 May 95 10:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eaeu412@taurus.oac.uci.edu (Omer Arain) Subject: Re: Attaching files in Pine? Date: 28 May 1995 03:50:24 GMT Message-Id: <3q8ru1$j8r@news.service.uci.edu> References: <3q69ee$acg@mail.one.net> Status: O X-Status: When you are in the compose message mode, there is a field in the header above Message Text by the name of Attchmnt. That field is for attaching files. In that field put the filename with the full pathname and that should do the trick. If you do not remember the path, just do Ctrl-t, while in the attachment field and it will take you to your directory. -- __ __ __ __ /__\ / /__\ | \ / \ /_ / \ |__/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 28 11:25:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06703; Sun, 28 May 95 11:25:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22839; Sun, 28 May 95 11:15:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22833; Sun, 28 May 95 11:15:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFmn3-00038OC; Sun, 28 May 95 11:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: Quote longer than reply Message-Id: <173AC109B1S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <3pthpq$1pt7@rs7.loc.gov> Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 17:53:35 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article Moshe Segal writes: >Actually, the thing that annoys me more than quotes that are longer than >the new text is those people who reply immediately, and then leave the >entire message, including the sig, in tact at the end. ... Well, the thing that annoys me are discussions that seem to have nothing to do with the chosen group. Do you have some proposal for a modification to Pine to avoid the misbehaviour that you describe? Apparently you do not. regards From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 28 11:27:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06786; Sun, 28 May 95 11:27:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05970; Sun, 28 May 95 11:19:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05964; Sun, 28 May 95 11:19:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFms6-00038OC; Sun, 28 May 95 11:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: h9470007@hkusua (Special Weapons And Tactics) Subject: reading mail in PC, possible? Message-Id: Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 07:42:24 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hello, I login in Unix and read mail by pine and saved the mail in the folders. Is that posssible to read the folders in PC like reading it in pine. I heard there is something called PC-pine. Is the purpose of the PC-pine can provide the facilities that I requested? 'coz this is convenience for me to read the one folder containing many mail at home. I mean d/l the folder back home from the Unix, and read the folder at home PC. SWAT (The Police Force) :) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 28 12:39:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08071; Sun, 28 May 95 12:39:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06813; Sun, 28 May 95 12:34:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06807; Sun, 28 May 95 12:34:23 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA03672; Sun, 28 May 95 21:32:13 +0200 Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 21:32:12 +0200 (METDST) From: "Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD?=)" To: "David M. Gaba" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help on exiting Pine leaving mailbox untouched In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 27 May 1995, David M. Gaba wrote: > When I used to use ELM I was able to leave my ,messages untouched even > though I had read some of the messages, by exiting via "X" rather than vi= a > "Q". This then allowed me to read ALL of the messages (both the unread > and the previously read ones) with Eudora when I got back to the office. >=20 > I haven't been able to do this using PINE. Any message that was > "previously read" is ignored by Eudora. I can't find anything on the WWW If you flag all read messages as unread, is it O. K.? (via enebling flag=20 command and select command in Setup/Config menu; then selecting (`;') all= =20 read messages (or simly alll messages), then Apply (`A') a Flag command=20 (`F') a set a New (unread) mail for all selected messages) Hope this helps V. S. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz Europe Home page: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-en.html Z=E1kladn=ED str=E1nka: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-cz.html Zakladni stranka: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-ce.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 28 15:04:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10319; Sun, 28 May 95 15:04:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24826; Sun, 28 May 95 14:59:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24820; Sun, 28 May 95 14:59:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFqJX-00038RC; Sun, 28 May 95 14:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rosemary Lyndall Subject: Alternative spelling programme. Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 16:05:54 +0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: The PINE documentation implies that an alternative spell-checking programme can be run in PINE. Unfortunately I cannot find any references to how this may he done and the system configuration files suggest that the only one available is that attached to PICO. Can anyone tell me: a. How can another spell-checker be configured to run under PINE? b. Which spell checkers are compatible with PINE run under a FreeBSD Unix system? Please reply by e-mail. Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rosemary Lyndall Rosemary from DownUnder _--_|\ Clinical Neuro-psychologist lyndall@haywire.DIALix.oz.au Perth / \ Perth, Western Australia lyndall@csuvax1.murdoch.edu.au -->\_.--._/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------v- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 28 16:39:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11927; Sun, 28 May 95 16:39:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25650; Sun, 28 May 95 16:36:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25644; Sun, 28 May 95 16:36:51 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id TAA21782; Sun, 28 May 1995 19:36:10 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id TAA07072; Sun, 28 May 1995 19:36:05 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA06327; Sun, 28 May 95 19:34:33 EDT Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 19:34:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: "John S. Kennedy" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Attaching files in Pine? In-Reply-To: <3q69ee$acg@mail.one.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 27 May 1995, John S. Kennedy wrote: > Maybe I missed something entirely obvious ... but > how do you attach an 8 bit file to a Pine message? > > Thanks! > In the header area, press ^J (ctrl-j), which will ask you for a file to attach and a comment to go along with the file. Your attached file will be MIMEd and sent. Does your recipient use Pine or another MTA with MIME compatibility? If not, your recipient will need mpack/munpack to decode your attachment or you will have to uuencode your binary file and read it into your message with ^R. Regards, Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 28 19:06:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14420; Sun, 28 May 95 19:06:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11255; Sun, 28 May 95 19:00:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11249; Sun, 28 May 95 19:00:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFu6Y-00038WC; Sun, 28 May 95 18:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vzvz@netcom.com (Philip Zeyliger) Subject: Re: Help on exiting Pine leaving mailbox untouched Message-Id: References: Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 16:06:17 GMT Status: O X-Status: David M. Gaba (gaba@hpp.stanford.edu) wrote: : Hi: I usually read my email using Eudora on a Macintosh. However, when : I'm on the road I log in via a simple terminal emulator and have been : using ELM to read my mail. ELM is OK except for having to use the vi or : emacs editor which is pretty bad. I have tried using PINE which seems a : lot better, HOWEVER, I have this problem: : I haven't been able to do this using PINE. Any message that was : "previously read" is ignored by Eudora. I can't find anything on the WWW : site FAQ about this. I'm sure it's a simple matter, but being too simple, : I haven't figured it out yet. Eudora (as far as I know) only downloads "new" messages. If you are using the latest Pine (3.91) you can type ;aa*n (Select all, apply mark new) You should do that while in your inbox. That's the bad way. The better way is to open pine in read-only mode! That would be: pine -o -- |\__ ---------------------------------------------------- __/| / o\__ __/o \ | ___=' Philip Zeyliger `=___ | | \ vzvz@netcom.com / | \ \ / / > \ ---------> KOHb <--------- / < _| KOHb |_ on the Free Internet Chess Server _| |_ | ______ | telnet ics.onenet.net 5000 | ______ | |__________| ==================================================== |__________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 28 19:54:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15358; Sun, 28 May 95 19:54:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27406; Sun, 28 May 95 19:50:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27400; Sun, 28 May 95 19:50:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFusn-00038RC; Sun, 28 May 95 19:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Re: Alternative spelling programme. Message-Id: Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 12:02:22 -0600 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sun, 28 May 1995, Rosemary Lyndall wrote: | Date: Sun, 28 MAY 1995 16:05:54 +0800 | From: Rosemary Lyndall | Newgroups: comp.mail.pine | Subject: Alternative spelling programme. | | The PINE documentation implies that an alternative spell-checking | programme can be run in PINE. Unfortunately I cannot find any references | to how this may he done and the system configuration files suggest that | the only one available is that attached to PICO. | | Can anyone tell me: | | a. How can another spell-checker be configured to run under PINE? | Here's a simple solution: Save this script as ckspell. - ---8<---8<---8<---8<---8<---8<--- CUT HERE ---8<---8<---8<---8<---8<---8<--- #!/bin/csh -f #set QUOTECHAR = "| " #set ALTEDITOR = "pico -z -n -t" set ALTSPELL = "ispell -x" # # Replace Pine's quote characters if QUOTECHAR is set. # if( ${?QUOTECHAR} ) then cp $1 $1.$$ sed s/^"> "/"$QUOTECHAR"/g < $1.$$ > $1 rm $1.$$ endif # # Use an alternate editor if ALTEDITOR is set. # if( ${?ALTEDITOR} ) then $ALTEDITOR $1 endif # # Run the alternate spell checker if ALTSPELL is set. # if( ${?ALTSPELL} ) then $ALTSPELL $1 endif # - ---8<---8<---8<---8<---8<---8<--- CUT HERE ---8<---8<---8<---8<---8<---8<--- Put ckspell in a directory for executables and run the command: chmod 700 ckspell ; rehash Point Pine's alternate editor at ckspell. Hit _ when you want to run the spell checker. Uncomment the "set ALTSPELL" and check the "enable-alternate-editor-implicitly" feature for a little tighter integration. | b. Which spell checkers are compatible with PINE run under a FreeBSD Unix | system? Anything you want. | | Please reply by e-mail. Thank you. | I haven't actually tested the script, so let me know if it barfs. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp1.1.4, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBL8hlkeBu0383Om6dAQFEzgQAn2cM2I+GiuqRyNK/PCBVDACD3mg9Zn/Q oYhTder0f8/aBED5uKHnYkDwE9wUr42CMNoyvHflcQPg/hDevq5rqzG+9ovXE2LY /3Rn960fM87yry2XpyfaAjz1v9GfVWJMzUamZCGSMN8YTAZX7btCDVB9q9rW65xi TaPWRcGOXTc= =deZH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka "The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 28 20:17:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15700; Sun, 28 May 95 20:17:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12155; Sun, 28 May 95 20:15:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12149; Sun, 28 May 95 20:15:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFvEc-00038RC; Sun, 28 May 95 20:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ibarnett@gbc.gbrownc.on.ca (Ian Barnett) Subject: Entering French Characters into Pine (Pico)???? Date: 28 May 1995 13:25:01 -0400 Message-Id: <3qabld$av7@gbc.gbrownc.on.ca> Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to enter French characters into pine messages? We are using unix Pine/Pico with PCs acting as vt100 terminals. When in vi I can hold down the alt key and type 135 (on the numeric keypad) and the letter c with a squiggle under it appears on the screen. If I do the same in Pico the Illegal command message appears. Is there something I am missing? How can you get any of the extended ASCII characters into a document. Note: I can edit messages in Pico which contain these extended characters with no problems. I just can't enter these characters into the editor. Ian Barnett From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 28 22:24:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18009; Sun, 28 May 95 22:24:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13700; Sun, 28 May 95 22:20:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13694; Sun, 28 May 95 22:20:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFxC5-00038SC; Sun, 28 May 95 22:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rosemary Lyndall Subject: Re: Alternative spelling programme. Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 02:56:01 +0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Thanks. Ispell is now installed :-) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rosemary Lyndall Rosemary from DownUnder _--_|\ Clinical Neuro-psychologist lyndall@haywire.DIALix.oz.au Perth / \ Perth, Western Australia lyndall@csuvax1.murdoch.edu.au -->\_.--._/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------v- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 28 23:14:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18776; Sun, 28 May 95 23:14:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29214; Sun, 28 May 95 23:10:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29208; Sun, 28 May 95 23:10:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFy1X-00038SC; Sun, 28 May 95 23:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cc56056@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chris Clayton ) Subject: Re: Snipping with Pine Date: 29 May 1995 06:06:14 GMT Message-Id: <3qbo8m$onm@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <3q8q51$c3a@epx.cis.umn.edu> <3q9i3j$q39@gondor.sdsu.edu> <3qbk3b$h42@epx.cis.umn.edu> Status: O X-Status: rogo0009@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Dan Rogovin) writes: >How does this work? I type ctrl-^, and nothing happens. I then press >another key and a "[B" appears, the same as if I'd typed it in. Then if >I type ctrl-K it only erases the line I'm currently on. What am I doing >wrong? I have trouble with the ctrl-^ command whenever I log into my Unix account from a Mac and use pine. I don't try to figure out what's wrong any more...what's wrong with Mac's can't be fixed by me. I don't know if this helps explain your problem or not...simply put, it could be a terminal emulation problem Chris -- -- "I am more than the sum of my email!" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 29 00:11:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19879; Mon, 29 May 95 00:11:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14930; Mon, 29 May 95 00:05:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14924; Mon, 29 May 95 00:05:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sFypz-00038TC; Mon, 29 May 95 00:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fox@panix.com (Lou Fox) Subject: Re: Somehow I am subscribed to all Newsgroups Help Date: 28 May 1995 21:42:36 -0400 Message-Id: <3qb8qd$pj9@panix.com> References: <3pvl73$9j0@panix.com> Status: O X-Status: Lou Fox (fox@panix.com) wrote: : I don't know how it happenned but pine has me subscribed to every : newsgroup. I tried deleting my .newsrc file, which seemed to work : because then I was subscribed to nothing. So I subscribed to a couple of : my favorite newsgroups, only to find that once I logged back into pine I : was once again subscribed to all newsgroups. Help. I don't understand : how to fix this. As you all know the problem has been solved. Several people asked if I can reproduce what happenned, and I can. If I delete my .newsrc file, then start up tin, it recreates an .newsrc file. All newsgroups are originally unsubcribed to. Once I exit and restart tin, however, all groups are once again subscribed. By the way it doesn't seem to matter if I pick certain groups to subscribe to, it still subscribes me to all newsgroups. Once again, thanks for all the help. I don't read this newsgroup regularly so if you have anymore questions about what happenned please email again. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 29 04:19:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25756; Mon, 29 May 95 04:19:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18224; Mon, 29 May 95 04:07:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18218; Mon, 29 May 95 04:07:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sG2dL-00038SC; Mon, 29 May 95 04:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rogo0009@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Dan Rogovin) Subject: Re: Snipping with Pine Date: 29 May 1995 04:55:07 GMT Message-Id: <3qbk3b$h42@epx.cis.umn.edu> References: <3q8q51$c3a@epx.cis.umn.edu> <3q9i3j$q39@gondor.sdsu.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 28 May 1995 10:08:51 GMT, Supak Lailert (lailert@ucssun1.sdsu.edu) wrote: : Dan Rogovin (rogo0009@maroon.tc.umn.edu) wrote: : : Hit ctrl-K to delete a line. : And if you want to cut many lines of text, use Ctrl-^ to select text then : use Ctrl-K to delete. How does this work? I type ctrl-^, and nothing happens. I then press another key and a "[B" appears, the same as if I'd typed it in. Then if I type ctrl-K it only erases the line I'm currently on. What am I doing wrong? -- ======Dan Rogovin ======¸Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, People want to know why I do this, why I write such|Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, gross stuff. I like to tell them I have the heart|Spamity Spaaaaaaaaaaam, of a small boy -- and I keep it in a jar on my desk|wonderful Spaaaaaaaaam! Stephen King--|--"Monty Python" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 29 04:44:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26218; Mon, 29 May 95 04:44:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18607; Mon, 29 May 95 04:36:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18601; Mon, 29 May 95 04:36:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sG34D-00038SC; Mon, 29 May 95 04:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rene Grothmann Subject: Re: varcation reply possible? Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 11:27:51 +0200 Message-Id: References: <3pqcf8$lq4@eccdb1.pms.ford.com> <3pqlf1$555@oink.cs.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3pqlf1$555@oink.cs.utexas.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 22 May 1995, Ananda M. Kar wrote: > -> i'd like to know if pine is able to support an automatic vacation > -> reply so that a canned message is sent back to people when they > -> send me a message. if it is possible, any pointers would be > -> helpful. > Most of the UNIX systems support it, you don't need PINE to accomplish > this. > Create a file called ".vacation.msg" with a "Subject:" line, like > Subject: away from my mail > > I will not be reading my mail for a while. > Your mail regarding "$SUBJECT" will be read when I return ^^^^^^^^^^ This does not work on my system (AIX 3.2) > To start vacation, create a .forward file in your home > directory containing a line of the form: > > \username, "|/usr/ucb/vacation username" ^ No ?!? Omit the backslash. > where username is your login name. > > Then type in the command: > > vacation -I > > To stop vacation, remove the .forward file, or move it to a > new name. On my system, it suffices to do say "touch .vacation.msg". Another "vacation -I" will start the vacation message again. Rene From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 29 04:59:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26700; Mon, 29 May 95 04:59:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02915; Mon, 29 May 95 04:51:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02909; Mon, 29 May 95 04:51:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sG3J2-00038UC; Mon, 29 May 95 04:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schwarz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Christian Schwarz) Subject: How can I get a "successful delivered" mail after sending? Date: 19 May 1995 08:45:11 GMT Message-Id: <3phlqn$mfn@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Status: O X-Status: Hi! Sometimes, I want to get sure that an email message was delivered to the target host successfully. I've read about a special feature in some mail systems, where you get a short email back, after your mail has reached the target host. Can I do this with pine? Thanks in advance, Chris -- Christian Schwarz schwarz@monet.m.isar.de, schwarz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 29 06:20:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28329; Mon, 29 May 95 06:20:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19768; Mon, 29 May 95 06:11:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19762; Mon, 29 May 95 06:11:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sG4Yy-00038UC; Mon, 29 May 95 06:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ryan@sunafs.cern.ch (Anne Marie Ryan) Subject: order of fields in header list Message-Id: Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 09:31:04 GMT Status: O X-Status: I am using Pine Version 3.90 on an Ultrix 4.3.0 workstation. When composing a message, I would like to include a Reply-To field by default, which I know how to do. However, I would prefer that the Reply-To field is not the first, i.e. top header in the header list but that the To: field were instead. This is to stop myself putting the target email address in the Reply-To field since I am used to typing the address without having to go down a field first. i.e. Is there a way to change the default order of the fields in the header list when composing a message? Thanks Anne Ryan (CERN) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 29 07:01:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28978; Mon, 29 May 95 07:01:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20197; Mon, 29 May 95 06:52:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20191; Mon, 29 May 95 06:52:20 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id JAA28250; Mon, 29 May 1995 09:52:17 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA09142; Mon, 29 May 1995 09:52:15 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA09370; Mon, 29 May 95 09:50:51 EDT Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 09:50:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Dan Rogovin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Snipping with Pine In-Reply-To: <3qbk3b$h42@epx.cis.umn.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: On our system ctrl-^ is used for network commands, so, to use ctrl-^ in=20 pico, I have to hit it twice. Maybe that will work in your case. On 29 May 1995, Dan Rogovin wrote: > On 28 May 1995 10:08:51 GMT, Supak Lailert (lailert@ucssun1.sdsu.edu) wro= te: > : Dan Rogovin (rogo0009@maroon.tc.umn.edu) wrote: > : : Hit ctrl-K to delete a line. >=20 > : And if you want to cut many lines of text, use Ctrl-^ to select text th= en=20 > : use Ctrl-K to delete. >=20 > How does this work? I type ctrl-^, and nothing happens. I then press=20 > another key and a "[B" appears, the same as if I'd typed it in. Then if= =20 > I type ctrl-K it only erases the line I'm currently on. What am I doing= =20 > wrong? >=20 > -- > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DDan Rogovin =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=B8Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, > People want to know why I do this, why I write such|Spam, Spam, Spam, Sp= am, > gross stuff. I like to tell them I have the heart|Spamity Spaaaaaaaaaa= am, > of a small boy -- and I keep it in a jar on my desk|wonderful Spaaaaaaaa= am! > Stephen King--|--"Monty Python" = =20 >=20 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 29 08:12:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00315; Mon, 29 May 95 08:12:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04712; Mon, 29 May 95 08:05:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04706; Mon, 29 May 95 08:05:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sG6CK-00038FC; Mon, 29 May 95 07:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Jonathan Butterworth, PSU, x2009" Subject: Getting pine to notify when a news arrives. Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 15:32:13 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, Does anyone know if/how I can get pine to notify me when a news arrives in a group I susbscribe to (as it does when mail arrives). Thanks for any help, Jon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 29 08:41:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00739; Mon, 29 May 95 08:41:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21445; Mon, 29 May 95 08:35:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21439; Mon, 29 May 95 08:35:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sG6ml-00038FC; Mon, 29 May 95 08:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ntb@tcisswe.itis.se (Thommy Brolin) Subject: Please Help - No valid author Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 13:49:19 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I posted on the same subject some time ago, but didn't receive any feedback. Being stubborn, I'll try again. When I try to send a mail using PINE, I get the error message: No valid author specification present The mail I'm sending ends up in my sent-mail folder, but nowhere else. I've experienced the same problem with ELM, but the solution there is a definition DONT-ADD-FROM (or something like it) that has to be disabled when compiling and linking. I'm using MMDF under SCO UNIX 3.2v4.2 (hope to upgrade to 5.0 soon), and I understand that MMDF might have something to do with this. As it is extremely annoying to only be able to use half of PINE, can someone out there please take the time to guide me in the right direction. Any help is much appreciated. Thommy Brolin ntb@itis.se From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 29 11:01:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03661; Mon, 29 May 95 11:01:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06498; Mon, 29 May 95 10:54:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06492; Mon, 29 May 95 10:54:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sG8yf-00038DC; Mon, 29 May 95 10:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: adams@spss.com (Steve Adams) Subject: Re: => MS-Mail gateway SMTP Non-documented error <= Message-Id: References: <3pvf6g$l5n@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> <3pvqua$i8c@cssun.mathcs.emory.edu> <3pvukn$lso@clarknet.clark.net> <3q0lu2$ec@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 17:07:42 GMT Status: O X-Status: csg@clavinova.eng.sun.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) writes: >Two Sheds wrote: >>Fixed in the latest version, regardless of what MSFT says over the phone. > >Thanks for the corrections. > >The funny thing is that I wasn't told this by the support people, but by the >very engineering folks who were responsible for maintaining the gateway. This >was almost a year ago. It would appear that someone turned up the heat in an >effort to placate customers who are getting tired waiting for MS Exchange. The same thing was the case with the new -F option to fix the 'From' line. When I talked to them about 2 years ago, the insisted that would NEVER fix it since they considered it to be correct. Guess enough people complained and they finally broke down. Also, the SMTP gateway is far more reliable if you use the latest sendmail.. -Steve -- The opinions expressed above are those of the author and not SPSS, Inc. ---NASCAR-#7-#28-#51--- adams@spss.com Soli Deo Gloria Phone: (312) 329-3522 Steve Adams "Space-age cybernomad" Fax: (312) 329-3558 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 29 15:11:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09468; Mon, 29 May 95 15:11:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26781; Mon, 29 May 95 14:59:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26775; Mon, 29 May 95 14:59:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGCnM-00038DC; Mon, 29 May 95 14:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dallen@infi.net (David Allen) Subject: Printing problem with Telix 3.22 Date: 29 May 1995 20:48:32 GMT Message-Id: <3qdbv0$8su@lucy.infi.net> Status: O X-Status: I am having a problem with PINE and Telix. Whenever I use the "Y" option to print, the program does okay for the first page or two, then starts overprinting and printing garbage. The system then locks up with the "printing message" message. I am using Telix 3.22 and have been told that it is incompatible with the PINE print function. Is their a fix? Tech support hasn't been forthcoming with solutions. Thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ David Allen dallen@infi.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 29 21:42:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17514; Mon, 29 May 95 21:42:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02086; Mon, 29 May 95 21:36:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02080; Mon, 29 May 95 21:36:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGIxv-00038KC; Mon, 29 May 95 21:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Snipping with Pine Date: 30 May 1995 03:18:29 GMT Message-Id: <3qe2q5$ha8@grape.epix.net> References: <3q8q51$c3a@epx.cis.umn.edu> <3q9i3j$q39@gondor.sdsu.edu> <3qbk3b$h42@epx.cis.umn.edu> Status: O X-Status: Dan Rogovin (rogo0009@maroon.tc.umn.edu) wrote: : On 28 May 1995 10:08:51 GMT, Supak Lailert (lailert@ucssun1.sdsu.edu) wrote: : : Dan Rogovin (rogo0009@maroon.tc.umn.edu) wrote: : : : Hit ctrl-K to delete a line. : : And if you want to cut many lines of text, use Ctrl-^ to select text then : : use Ctrl-K to delete. : How does this work? I type ctrl-^, and nothing happens. I then press : another key and a "[B" appears, the same as if I'd typed it in. Then if : I type ctrl-K it only erases the line I'm currently on. What am I doing : wrong? Only my guess, you're hitting ctrl+6 not ctrl+^ (which is ctrl+shift+6)? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 30 03:46:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25969; Tue, 30 May 95 03:46:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06873; Tue, 30 May 95 03:39:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06867; Tue, 30 May 95 03:39:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGOdo-00038LC; Tue, 30 May 95 03:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: reading mail in PC, possible? Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 19:14:23 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 27 May 1995, Special Weapons And Tactics wrote: > I login in Unix and read mail by pine and saved the mail in the > folders. Is that posssible to read the folders in PC like reading it in > pine. [...] > 'coz this is convenience for me to read the one folder containing > many mail at home. > I mean d/l the folder back home from the Unix, and read the > folder at home PC. I think I understand what you are getting at. With the exception of the INBOX that actually reads the system spool, the folders Pine reads and manipulates are simply files. (I use Unix Pine 3.91.) Provided you have read acces to the files/folders -- and if you didn't Pine couldn't at least show them in read-only mode -- then you can download them to your PC with whatever file transfer protocol you have available to work with (Zmodem, Xmodem, Kermit, etc.). Just back out of Pine and locate the directory where Pine keeps the folders. Most likely it will be a subdirectory of your home directory, quite probably called "mail." The individual folders will be in files of the same name. Just download the one you want to your PC and read it with your favorite editor or file viewer. This works on a local collection of folders other than the INBOX proper and is only a reading technique. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 30 05:05:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28518; Tue, 30 May 95 05:05:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18769; Tue, 30 May 95 04:49:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18763; Tue, 30 May 95 04:49:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGPnF-00038LC; Tue, 30 May 95 04:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eliezer Lerner Subject: Notification for PC-Pine Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 09:21:54 -0900 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, does anybody know how to arrange sufficient notification with PC-Pine? I want something like on UNIX systems with changable icon or something else. I am working with Windows Workgroups. In all cases I want to see that the new mail have arrived before I open Pine's icon. Is it possible? +================================================================+ |Eliezer Lerner,| Email: eli1@cimatron.co.il| 11 Gush Etzion St.,| |System Admin, | Phone: +952-3-5312127 | Givat Shmuel, | |Cimatron | Fax: +952-3-5312140 | 51905, Israel | +================================================================+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 30 07:00:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01085; Tue, 30 May 95 07:00:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09449; Tue, 30 May 95 06:42:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09443; Tue, 30 May 95 06:42:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGRTX-00038OC; Tue, 30 May 95 06:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eliezer Lerner Subject: Notification for PC-Pine Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 19:30:05 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, does anybody know how to arrange sufficient notification with PC-Pine? I want something like on UNIX systems with changable icon or something else. I am working with Windows Workgroups. In all cases I want to see that the new mail have arrived before I open Pine's icon. Is it possible? +================================================================+ |Eliezer Lerner,| Email: eli1@cimatron.co.il| 11 Gush Etzion St.,| |System Admin, | Phone: +952-3-5312127 | Givat Shmuel, | |Cimatron | Fax: +952-3-5312140 | 51905, Israel | +================================================================+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 30 08:16:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03248; Tue, 30 May 95 08:16:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20875; Tue, 30 May 95 07:52:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20869; Tue, 30 May 95 07:52:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGSZt-00038LC; Tue, 30 May 95 07:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Entering French Characters into Pine (Pico)???? Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 19:20:26 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3qabld$av7@gbc.gbrownc.on.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3qabld$av7@gbc.gbrownc.on.ca> Status: O X-Status: On 28 May 1995, Ian Barnett wrote: > Is it possible to enter French characters into pine messages? We are > using unix Pine/Pico with PCs acting as vt100 terminals. When in vi I can > [...] > Is there something I am missing? How can you get any of the extended > ASCII characters into a document. > [...] If you can successfully generate what you want in vi, try composing your message with vi. Then, when you are in the composer, just read in the file composed with vi using the Pine ^R command. Better yet, you can tell Pine in the configuration that you want to use vi as your editor when composing messages rather than using Pine's built-in composer. I can't guarantee that either of these methods would work, as I haven't had reason to try them, but they are simple to try out and worth a shot. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 30 08:25:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03622; Tue, 30 May 95 08:25:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10768; Tue, 30 May 95 08:07:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10762; Tue, 30 May 95 08:07:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGSnQ-00038QC; Tue, 30 May 95 08:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Willie Sullivan Subject: /usr write failed Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 06:03:16 GMT Status: O X-Status: I have a dialup shell account with an Internet provider and I use Pine on their system for mail and news. I have a problem with Pine that occurrs from time to time. Sometimes when I try to send an e-mail message, I get the following error message that appears briefly at the bottom of my screen: "/usr write failed: file system is full" When this happens, a copy of the e-mail message is copied to my "sent-mail" folder but, the e-mail message is not actually sent. I tried sending a few test notes to myself and did not receive them. Also, I recently noticed several pine debug files in my home directory. I don't know if these are related to my problem or not. Can anyone please tell me what the error message means? What is "usr" and which file system does it mean is full? Please e-mail reply if possible. Thank you, Willie Sullivan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 30 09:11:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06181; Tue, 30 May 95 09:11:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22194; Tue, 30 May 95 09:02:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22188; Tue, 30 May 95 09:02:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGTe4-00038LC; Tue, 30 May 95 08:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pickerin@phoenix.sas.muohio.edu (Robert A. Pickering Jr.) Subject: Re: Pine/PGP interface Message-Id: <1995May30.102832.45761@miavx1> Date: 30 May 95 10:28:32 -0500 References: Status: O X-Status: > For a well written script to interface PGP with Pine: > > finger slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -f > mkpgp.txt.uu Found it in my mail archives. -Rob Jean Pierre LeJacq (jplejacq@oops.com) wrote: : > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- : > Version: 2.6.i : > Comment: Processed by mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface. : I've noticed a few messages mention mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface. : Could someone fill me in on this package, how it interfaces to : Pine, and where it can be obtained? Are there any alternatives? : Thanks, : =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= : Jean Pierre LeJacq Quoin, Inc : Suite 200 North local voice: +1.203.295.0874 : 124 Mount Auburn Street voice: +1.617.576.5885 : Cambridge, MA 02138 fax: +1.617.576.5876 : U.S.A. email: jplejacq@oops.com -- -- Robert A. Pickering Jr. UNIX Software Specialist Miami Computing and Information Services pickerin@muohio.edu For PGP Public Key: ph -s ph.muohio.edu query pickerra return pgp "Most people, if they counted how many people swam across the river, would never think about building bridges." - Ronald Altman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 30 11:01:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10487; Tue, 30 May 95 11:01:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14789; Tue, 30 May 95 10:52:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14783; Tue, 30 May 95 10:52:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGVNv-00038QC; Tue, 30 May 95 10:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: Entering French Characters into Pine (Pico)???? Message-Id: <173AEC788S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <3qabld$av7@gbc.gbrownc.on.ca> Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 13:11:18 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article Paul O Bartlett writes: >On 28 May 1995, Ian Barnett wrote: > >> Is it possible to enter French characters into pine messages? We are >> using unix Pine/Pico with PCs acting as vt100 terminals. When in vi I can > > If you can successfully generate what you want in vi, try composing >your message with vi. ... That sounds fine to me. But, it would be polite to check first with your recipients to make sure that they can actually read the messages! Even if they use PINE (and there are some people out there that don't), it is not guaranteed that they have a terminal that displays (or is correctly set up to display) characters in the upper half of the 8-bit code table. As the saying goes - "be pessimistic in what you send out, and generous in interpreting what you receive". regards From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 30 11:16:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11071; Tue, 30 May 95 11:16:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25084; Tue, 30 May 95 11:07:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25078; Tue, 30 May 95 11:07:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGVVm-00038OC; Tue, 30 May 95 10:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine 3.91/Linux/Imap problem Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 08:55:10 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3q396b$vt@news4.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3q396b$vt@news4.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: On 26 May 1995, C.J. Mandrake wrote: > I am having a problem with pine 3.91 and linux using imap. When I try to > access my mailbox it tries to run a remote shell command to execute > /etc/rimapd. It hangs for a long time. This was originally happening > with pine 3.89 and I saw a post saying that 3.91 fixes that problem, but > no luck after installing 3.91. > > It works fine for the same imap server from a BSD machine running 3.91 on > our network. Can anyone help? I am pretty desperate at this point. Do you know why the remote shell hangs from your Linux system and not from the BSD system? Is your IP service provider deliberately filtering out rsh packets in a misguided effort to provide you with "security"? You can work around it by specifying the IP port number in the folder specification, e.g. {server:143}inbox instead of {server}inbox, but it's better for you to find out why the underlying problem is happening. You should either get a remote preauthenticated IMAP server, or an immediate error with the command: rsh server /etc/rimapd If you aren't, something is wrong with the way your system is set up. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 30 12:12:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13511; Tue, 30 May 95 12:12:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16573; Tue, 30 May 95 12:07:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16567; Tue, 30 May 95 12:07:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGWVS-00038QC; Tue, 30 May 95 11:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rneu@rneu.loc.gov Subject: Re: Snipping with Pine Date: 30 May 1995 18:05:31 GMT Message-Id: <3qfmpb$15s0@rs7.loc.gov> References: <3q8q51$c3a@epx.cis.umn.edu> <3q9i3j$q39@gondor.sdsu.edu> <3qbk3b$h42@epx.cis.umn.edu> <3qe2q5$ha8@grape.epix.net> Status: O X-Status: (snip!) >Only my guess, you're hitting ctrl+6 not ctrl+^ (which is ctrl+shift+6)? It's easy to check. If you hit ctrl+^, you should get a little reverse video box saying "mark set." *Then you move your cursor* to the other end of what you want to cut, and _then_ hit ^K. R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life rneu@rneu.loc.gov or (better) rrne@loc.gov I speak for me. Only. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 30 12:25:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14067; Tue, 30 May 95 12:25:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26640; Tue, 30 May 95 12:18:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26634; Tue, 30 May 95 12:18:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGWkh-00038OC; Tue, 30 May 95 12:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) Subject: Re: Different mail for different Mailboxes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <1995May30.174105.13526@chemabs.uucp> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 17:41:05 GMT Status: O X-Status: There is a frequently posted info sheet over on comp.mail.misc which lists a variety of mail filtering programs available - everything from elm's filter command, to the esoteric procmail and delivery, to the perl based mailagent. -- :s Larry W. Virden INET: larry.virden@cas.org :s In search of a new WWW home... :s Unless explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting should :s be construed as representing my employer's opinions. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 30 12:47:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14929; Tue, 30 May 95 12:47:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17392; Tue, 30 May 95 12:40:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17386; Tue, 30 May 95 12:40:38 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01389; Tue, 30 May 95 12:40:37 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 12:40:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Notification for PC-Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Eliezer, In the next version of PC-Pine for Windows, the icon will change color when new mail arrives. -teg On Mon, 29 May 1995, Eliezer Lerner wrote: > Hi, > does anybody know how to arrange sufficient notification with PC-Pine? > > I want something like on UNIX systems with changable icon or something > else. I am working with Windows Workgroups. In all cases I want to see > that the new mail have arrived before I open Pine's icon. Is it possible? > > +================================================================+ > |Eliezer Lerner,| Email: eli1@cimatron.co.il| 11 Gush Etzion St.,| > |System Admin, | Phone: +952-3-5312127 | Givat Shmuel, | > |Cimatron | Fax: +952-3-5312140 | 51905, Israel | > +================================================================+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 30 13:07:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16313; Tue, 30 May 95 13:07:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17817; Tue, 30 May 95 13:00:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pluto.njcc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17811; Tue, 30 May 95 13:00:54 -0700 Received: (from reichart@localhost) by pluto.njcc.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id QAA05596; Tue, 30 May 1995 16:00:53 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 16:00:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Reichart To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Unwanted Deletions (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Pehaps someone will know what I can do about this. I have saved messages in a number of folders. When I look at an old message in one of these folders, and then use the "L" option to return to, say, the Inbox folder, PINE will often, but not always, ask me if I wish to expunge the deleted message in the folder I just looked at. BUT I DIDN'T delete anything there! That is what I think is the bug. Of course, I can always hit the "N", but since the default response to the "expunge" question is "YES", I always risk losing such a message if I'm moving fast. ... Dick Reichart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 30 14:34:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19464; Tue, 30 May 95 14:34:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19863; Tue, 30 May 95 14:22:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mizzou1.missouri.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19857; Tue, 30 May 95 14:21:56 -0700 Received: from lincolnu.edu by MIZZOU1.missouri.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Tue, 30 May 95 16:23:15 CDT Received: by lincolnu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25864; Tue, 30 May 95 16:23:27 CDT Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 16:23:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Gerry Howser Subject: Filtering headers in PINE (3.89) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have recently installed PINE on a U6000/550 from Unisys and am having a MINOR problem: How can I filter the headers on an incoming message so that all the Received-From and X-.... headers do not show? I have PINE on a LYNIX box and it only shows the Date, To, From, and Subject headers. Is this a pine configuration option, a compile option, or a SENDMAIL option? I need to resolve this before I am called in to train the University President and his V.P.'s Thanks! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gerry Howser (POSTMASTER) howser@lincolnu.edu Manager of Systems, Programming, and Telecommunications Lincoln University Jefferson City, MO 65102-0029 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 30 15:07:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20599; Tue, 30 May 95 15:07:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20666; Tue, 30 May 95 14:58:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20655; Tue, 30 May 95 14:58:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGZBB-00038QC; Tue, 30 May 95 14:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: PINE, please don't generate headers Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 09:07:32 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3q5kll$5pa@ocean.CAM.ORG> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3q5kll$5pa@ocean.CAM.ORG> Status: O X-Status: On 26 May 1995, Phillip Vandry wrote: > Quite a while ago, I noticed that the message IDs of the messages coming > from PINE do not use the FQDN of the sending host. The reason? It does > a simple uname() call (or something similar, I forget) to fetch the > node name, which is not the FQDN. Pine uses a gethostbyname() call to get the FQDN from the official name return value in the returned hostent structure. If gethostbyname() does not do so on your system, it is because your system is misconfigured. 99.9% of the time, it is because you have an /etc/hosts entry for your local machine which looks like: 10.20.30.40 blurdybloop blurdybloop.foo.com when the correct entry is 10.20.30.40 blurdybloop.foo.com blurdybloop The first name in /etc/hosts is the official name; all other names are nicknames. It is not good to have the FQDN as a nickname instead of the official name. > I left this alone because it's not a big deal. But IMHO it would be better > to not generate any such headers and leave the task to the MTS. That's how > it works with most/all other MUAs. This makes a big -- and misguided -- assumption. You are assuming that the MTA will do the fixup. This is not true on many systems. Nor is it really the proper the role of the MTA to generate MUA fields. For every system in which sendmail has been carefully crafted to override the MUAs to do exactly what the system manager wants, there are hundreds in which sendmail's configuration is straight out of the box. We have to make Pine do the right thing for the majority of systems. Another reason is that the Message ID's identify the generating program and its version. This is sometimes useful for us in dealing with bug reports. Separate headers often get filtered by gateways. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 30 19:32:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29484; Tue, 30 May 95 19:32:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04383; Tue, 30 May 95 19:29:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Paul.spu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04377; Tue, 30 May 95 19:29:01 -0700 Received: by paul.spu.edu; id AA16235; Tue, 30 May 1995 19:29:01 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 19:28:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole Dawn Chambers To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help me please! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: When I log onto my email, it says I have new mail. But when I check it, there are no new messages. If anyone knows why this is happening and how it can be corrected, please let me know at nchamber@paul.spu.edu Thank you very much! Nicole Dawn Chambers From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 30 20:28:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00964; Tue, 30 May 95 20:28:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05129; Tue, 30 May 95 20:24:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from civil.civeng.unsw.OZ.AU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05123; Tue, 30 May 95 20:24:16 -0700 Received: by civeng.unsw.OZ.AU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04773; Wed, 31 May 95 12:49:56 EST Date: Wed, 31 May 95 12:49:56 EST From: u2139409@civeng.unsw.OZ.AU (Allen Yen Chung Hsu) Message-Id: <9505310249.AA04773@civeng.unsw.OZ.AU> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: signature file before the reply text.. Status: O X-Status: Help, it seems that when i reply a message and want to include my signature file, it comes before the message i received, is there a way to put the signature file at the end of the email? ================================================================================ u2139409@civeng.unsw.oz.au "Sportsmanship is winning as though you were used to it, and losing as though you enjoyed it for a change" -Annon ================================================================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 30 21:57:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02949; Tue, 30 May 95 21:57:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06113; Tue, 30 May 95 21:53:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06107; Tue, 30 May 95 21:53:14 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA06534; Wed, 31 May 95 06:51:04 +0200 Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 06:51:03 +0200 (METDST) From: "Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD?=)" To: Allen Yen Chung Hsu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: signature file before the reply text.. In-Reply-To: <9505310249.AA04773@civeng.unsw.OZ.AU> Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 31 May 1995, Allen Yen Chung Hsu wrote: > Help, it seems that when i reply a message and want to include > my signature file, it comes before the message i received, is there > a way to put the signature file at the end of the email? Set on the signature-at-bottom option in Set-up/Config menu (i. e. go to the main menu, then to press S, then C, then move a cursor at line with text mentioned above and press X. Then press E. It should work now, if=20 not. try quit pine and start it again. Hope this helps V. S. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz Europe Home page: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-en.html Z=E1kladn=ED str=E1nka: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-cz.html Zakladni stranka: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-ce.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 00:49:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07250; Wed, 31 May 95 00:49:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00278; Wed, 31 May 95 00:44:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00272; Wed, 31 May 95 00:44:03 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19094; Wed, 31 May 95 00:44:00 -0700 Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 00:43:43 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Gene J. Raymond" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: .pine-debug1 In-Reply-To: <3q2kar$hm9@news.cais.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 25 May 1995, Gene J. Raymond wrote: > In article <3q0281$dr6@woof.cs.utexas.edu>, > Ananda M. Kar wrote: > > > To stop the creation of debug files start PINE with "pine -d0". > > That's an OK solution. Could you expand on it a little bit? There must > be a way when building pine to say that -d0 (no debug files) is the default, > yet when I built 3.91, I didn't see any specific documentation referring to > what files could be used for customizing the build. The default, evidently, > is to produce the debug files; what I'd like is just the opposite. > This can be changed by modifying the appropriate #defines in pine/osdep/os-???.h (??? is your OS, e.g. sun, ult, osf, ...) |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL8wePd/IU4uTDdHNAQEvfAIAiSA5YboUKI8zPpX5r9+8KhnTurkU3phV M5UIx/bmtoVVGplbWFQOnxfsMuusdYQrqJIWOl1dxO+YYrVsn8Q3Jw== =qK1Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 00:57:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07445; Wed, 31 May 95 00:57:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00370; Wed, 31 May 95 00:49:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00364; Wed, 31 May 95 00:49:38 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19190; Wed, 31 May 95 00:49:33 -0700 Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 00:49:23 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Gerry Howser Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Filtering headers in PINE (3.89) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 30 May 1995, Gerry Howser wrote: > I have recently installed PINE on a U6000/550 from Unisys and am having a > MINOR problem: How can I filter the headers on an incoming message so > that all the Received-From and X-.... headers do not show? I have PINE > on a LYNIX box and it only shows the Date, To, From, and Subject > headers. Is this a pine configuration option, a compile option, or a > SENDMAIL option? I need to resolve this before I am called in to train > the University President and his V.P.'s > Pine will not show the extra headers unless you turn on the enable-full-header-cmd feature in your .pinerc file (or /usr/local/lib/pine.conf) and give the 'h' command. Giving 'h' again will toggle the full header mode back off... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL8wfit/IU4uTDdHNAQGrwQIAhe27jbou3r8pnsEXgR72boj0Zz1EiDYs 8rMhvYvVmmJWXWaRGBge+r80HQG38rSMew7qrIHakz7tzGvYNCeHuQ== =0/hA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 04:29:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13510; Wed, 31 May 95 04:29:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03445; Wed, 31 May 95 04:21:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pogo.den.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03439; Wed, 31 May 95 04:21:33 -0700 Received: by pogo.den.mmc.com (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17644; Wed, 31 May 95 05:21:28 -0600 Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 05:21:27 -0600 (MDT) From: Michael S Hartman To: Nicole Dawn Chambers Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help me please! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 30 May 1995, Nicole Dawn Chambers wrote: > > When I log onto my email, it says I have new mail. But when I check it, > there are no new messages. If anyone knows why this is happening and how > it can be corrected, please let me know at nchamber@paul.spu.edu Thank > you very much! Nicole Dawn Chambers > Nicole, i think pine will tell you that you have mail unless you move your read messages out of the inbox, like saved messages. Mike Hartman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 04:38:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13625; Wed, 31 May 95 04:38:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10718; Wed, 31 May 95 04:26:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10712; Wed, 31 May 95 04:26:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGltp-00038LC; Wed, 31 May 95 04:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sjin@festival.ed.ac.uk (S Jin) Subject: literal empty string {0} in IMAP4 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 10:43:08 GMT Status: O X-Status: I would appreciate very much if anyone can make it clear. In IMAP4 (RFC 1730), if a client send a literal empty string {0} to an IMAP4 server, the server should response with a command continuation request response with the token "+". (See Page 6 and 38 in the RFC) And then what the IMAP4 server expects next? Is it a new command? Or is it still the rest of the previous command? Thanks in advance, Shangjie Jin Thanks in advance, Shangjie Jin -- * Shangjie Jin * Phone: +44 131 650 5008 * EUCS, JCMB * Fax: +44 131 650 6552 * University of Edinburgh * Email: S.Jin@ed.ac.uk * Kings Buildings * IP: 129.215.200.80 * Edinburgh EH9 3JZ * * Scotland, UK * Pseudo GB: ~{S"9z0.6!1$4sQ' Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15272; Wed, 31 May 95 05:31:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04227; Wed, 31 May 95 05:23:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04221; Wed, 31 May 95 05:22:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGml5-00038LC; Wed, 31 May 95 05:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Maxwell Subject: Help with procmail and PINE Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 19:34:18 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I cannot figure out how to configure procmail to sort a mailing list that uses the original sender's address as the "from" address. Please help me!! ============================================================================= Jim jmaxwell@thelair.zynet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 05:57:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15892; Wed, 31 May 95 05:57:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04620; Wed, 31 May 95 05:52:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rs8.loc.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04614; Wed, 31 May 95 05:52:38 -0700 Received: by rs8.loc.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA39622; Wed, 31 May 1995 08:52:37 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 08:52:37 -0400 (EDT) From: R Russell Neuswanger To: pine-info Subject: export whole folder? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I can back up a folder by exporting each message to a file in my home directory, appending each to the previous, and then ftp'ing that from here (my pine account's on a machine in the bowels of the building somewhere) onto a diskette -- but the process is tedious, and the result messy. Is there a good way to transfer a whole folder intact onto a diskette, off that other machine, onto a diskette stuffed into the workstation I sit at? LaMail, which comes bundled with the OS/2 package (at least the one we have here), is pretty flaky, but it does transfer whole folders onto diskette without supervision, in the background, while I get something else done; surely pine can do better?? R. R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Edel sei der Mensch, Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance Hilfreich und gut! AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP), LC Denn das allein Washington, DC 20540-4120 Unterscheidet ihn ... 202.707.8747 (shared line) -- Goethe rrne@loc.gov or neuswang@mail.loc.gov No teratobibliotic entity avows *my* emanations. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 06:07:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16238; Wed, 31 May 95 06:07:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11686; Wed, 31 May 95 06:00:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11680; Wed, 31 May 95 06:00:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGnJO-00038LC; Wed, 31 May 95 05:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: al@lafn.org (Al Cohan) Subject: Sending "Plain" attachments? Message-Id: <1995May30.164039.7986@lafn.org> Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 16:40:39 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hello, I have sent a few ascii files as attachments to mail and they arrive in MIME format. Is there anyway to disable this. The receiveding end does not have MIME capability. I will be sending them Mpack and Munpack but what to do in the meantime? Any way to disable MIME in Pine? Thanx, Al -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 06:12:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16438; Wed, 31 May 95 06:12:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11718; Wed, 31 May 95 06:01:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11712; Wed, 31 May 95 06:01:53 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id JAA01945; Wed, 31 May 1995 09:00:55 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA22290; Wed, 31 May 1995 09:00:48 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA23392; Wed, 31 May 95 08:59:25 EDT Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 08:59:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: R Russell Neuswanger Cc: pine-info Subject: Re: export whole folder? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 31 May 1995, R Russell Neuswanger wrote: > I can back up a folder by exporting each message to a file in my > home directory, appending each to the previous, and then ftp'ing that > from here (my pine account's on a machine in the bowels of the building > somewhere) onto a diskette -- but the process is tedious, and the result > messy. Is there a good way to transfer a whole folder intact onto a > diskette, off that other machine, onto a diskette stuffed into the > workstation I sit at? LaMail, which comes bundled with the OS/2 package > (at least the one we have here), is pretty flaky, but it does transfer > whole folders onto diskette without supervision, in the background, while > I get something else done; surely pine can do better?? > The folder is just an ascii text file, usually stored in the subdirectory 'mail' under your home directory. Just transfer that file to diskette in the same way you were transfering the file you were exporting to. e.g., copy mail/ a: if attached to your file server. This has nothing to do with Pine. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 06:17:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16689; Wed, 31 May 95 06:17:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04873; Wed, 31 May 95 06:09:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04867; Wed, 31 May 95 06:09:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGnRp-00038LC; Wed, 31 May 95 06:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) Subject: Pine and Solaris 2.4? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <1995May30.174415.13855@chemabs.uucp> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 17:44:15 GMT Status: O X-Status: I am trying to build pine 3.91 on Solaris 2.4. The first problem encountered was that the build command told me to look at a doc file which didn't exist in the tar file that was on ftp.cac.washington.edu. Then I peeked in the pine directory, saw makefile.sol, and thus tried a build sol. I immediately was concerned when I saw that build was trying to configure pine as if being compiled on a machine without an ANSI C compiler when my compiler is ANSI C, but unfortunately I havent figured out yet what to change to fix that. Are there other things with which I should be concerned during the process? For instance, the makefile says that it is : Making c-client library, mtest and imapd and of course I don't see pine and pico listed there :-( ... -- :s Larry W. Virden INET: larry.virden@cas.org :s In search of a new WWW home... :s Unless explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting should :s be construed as representing my employer's opinions. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 06:27:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16984; Wed, 31 May 95 06:27:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11953; Wed, 31 May 95 06:15:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mizzou1.missouri.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11947; Wed, 31 May 95 06:15:22 -0700 Received: from lincolnu.edu by MIZZOU1.missouri.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Wed, 31 May 95 08:16:41 CDT Received: by lincolnu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28589; Wed, 31 May 95 08:16:54 CDT Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 08:16:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Gerry Howser Subject: Re: Filtering headers in PINE (3.89) To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I appreciate the thought, but I have already tried that. The problem I have is a little more subtle than that. I have had Pine running on a lynix box for some time now and the ONLY headers a user sees (with a plain vanilla .pinerc file) are the DATE, TO, FROM, and SUBJECT. My Director wishes to see only those headers on all mail. By this I mean that he want me to filter the Reply-to, Received, and all Comment type headers. All he wants is to see those four headers and no others, even if they were attached by previous mailers. I think I will have to look at the way that Pine processes the header and delete every line except those four and find some way to turn the whole thing on and off so that I will still have the headers for debugging. The headers that I am talking about are present if you use mailx, also. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gerry Howser (POSTMASTER) howser@lincolnu.edu Manager of Systems, Programming, and Telecommunications Lincoln University Jefferson City, MO 65102-0029 On Wed, 31 May 1995, David L Miller wrote: > Return-Path: > Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by lincolnu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) > id AA27655; Wed, 31 May 95 02:51:11 CDT > Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu > (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19190; > Wed, 31 May 95 00:49:33 -0700 > Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 00:49:23 -0700 (PDT) > From: David L Miller > To: Gerry Howser > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Filtering headers in PINE (3.89) > In-Reply-To: > Message-Id: > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > On Tue, 30 May 1995, Gerry Howser wrote: > > > I have recently installed PINE on a U6000/550 from Unisys and am having a > > MINOR problem: How can I filter the headers on an incoming message so > > that all the Received-From and X-.... headers do not show? I have PINE > > on a LYNIX box and it only shows the Date, To, From, and Subject > > headers. Is this a pine configuration option, a compile option, or a > > SENDMAIL option? I need to resolve this before I am called in to train > > the University President and his V.P.'s > > > > Pine will not show the extra headers unless you turn on the > enable-full-header-cmd feature in your .pinerc file (or > /usr/local/lib/pine.conf) and give the 'h' command. Giving 'h' again will > toggle the full header mode back off... > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.2 > > iQBVAwUBL8wfit/IU4uTDdHNAQGrwQIAhe27jbou3r8pnsEXgR72boj0Zz1EiDYs > 8rMhvYvVmmJWXWaRGBge+r80HQG38rSMew7qrIHakz7tzGvYNCeHuQ== > =0/hA > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 07:02:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18196; Wed, 31 May 95 07:02:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05587; Wed, 31 May 95 06:49:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay3.UU.NET by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05581; Wed, 31 May 95 06:49:14 -0700 Received: from uucp3.UU.NET by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP id QQyscl13198; Wed, 31 May 1995 09:49:12 -0400 Received: from paradim1.UUCP by uucp3.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Wed, 31 May 1995 09:49:11 -0400 Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 12:22:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: Nicole Dawn Chambers Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help me please! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 30 May 1995, Nicole Dawn Chambers wrote: > When I log onto my email, it says I have new mail. But when I check it, > there are no new messages. If anyone knows why this is happening and how > it can be corrected, please let me know at nchamber@paul.spu.edu Thank I notice the same behavior on my system using pine-3.91. I believe that Pine doesn't automatically refresh its inbox except at set time intervals. You can force the refresh by using the "Next" command when you are at the last message in the inbox folder index. You can also use the "^L" command at other points (don't remember exactly where). The help system gives more info. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jean Pierre LeJacq Quoin, Inc Suite 200 North local voice: +1.203.295.0874 124 Mount Auburn Street voice: +1.617.576.5885 Cambridge, MA 02138 fax: +1.617.576.5876 U.S.A. email: jplejacq@oops.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 08:05:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20354; Wed, 31 May 95 08:05:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13486; Wed, 31 May 95 07:54:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13480; Wed, 31 May 95 07:54:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGp5H-00038OC; Wed, 31 May 95 07:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Editing Date: 30 May 1995 20:41:10 GMT Message-Id: <3qfvt6$ime@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Richard Miller wrote: > I've also had difficulties removing characters in the middle of > previously typed paragraphs. Is there a clear explanation of the >correct process? In a related matter, why does "Delete" act like >"Backspace"? rather than removing the character under the cursor. The >cleanest way I've found to date is to backspace (and remove) over >characters, thus forcing a need to retype them, rather than "left arrow" >and delete. The delete (ascii character DEL, octal 0177, syn control-question mark ^?) character and the backspace (ascii character BS, octal 010, syn control-H ^H) are synonymous in Pico and both do the same things. The reason that these characters both do the same thing in Pico/Pine is that there is no general agreement on keyboard placement, on whether the key in the upper-right corner of the keybord should be a backspace key or a delete key. PCs have a backspace key there. Macs have a delete key there. Unix workstations gallop off in every direction depending on vendor, and even (like Hewlett-Packard) by keyboard model. Usually redefining one's keyboard is a hairy matter, so since backing up is a much more common thing to do than deleting forward, the prudent course of action is to make both keys do the same thing. In Pico, you can press control-D to delete forward. For my users, I have just unilaterally decided to set them up initially to use DEL (mainly because that's what Emacs wants). For some other sites, the opposite may be true. I think if you have a heterogeneous environment, the decision must be made one way or the other, because otherwise you're going to have lots of strange differences between different platforms. In a homogeneous environment, you can just go whichever way your vendor went. (It's unfortunate that both the first and second obvious choices for getting help -- control-H and control-? -- are the backspace and delete keys. Programs like Emacs just assume you're going to use control-? for backspacing and control-H for help. Nothing's ever easy these days...) -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 08:16:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20864; Wed, 31 May 95 08:16:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06978; Wed, 31 May 95 08:04:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06972; Wed, 31 May 95 08:04:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGpJ7-00038SC; Wed, 31 May 95 08:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jennings@cs.unca.edu (Leslie Jennings) Subject: Re: Shared address book Date: 31 May 1995 13:03:45 GMT Message-Id: <3qhpfh$oeo@balsam.unca.edu> References: <3qgag8$5e3@balsam.unca.edu> Status: O X-Status: Leslie Jennings (jennings@cs.unca.edu) wrote: : How would I go about setting up a shared address book on a UNIX system? Let me rephrase... how do I go about setting up pine so that all new users use the same global addressbook? I'd rather not have to tell the user how to go into setup/config and manually change the location of the global addressbook. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 09:15:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23628; Wed, 31 May 95 09:15:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14842; Wed, 31 May 95 09:04:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay3.UU.NET by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14823; Wed, 31 May 95 09:04:15 -0700 Received: from uucp3.UU.NET by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP id QQyscu20324; Wed, 31 May 1995 12:04:07 -0400 Received: from paradim1.UUCP by uucp3.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Wed, 31 May 1995 12:04:06 -0400 Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 12:50:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: Al Cohan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Sending "Plain" attachments? In-Reply-To: <1995May30.164039.7986@lafn.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 30 May 1995, Al Cohan wrote: > Hello, I have sent a few ascii files as attachments to mail and they > arrive in MIME format. Is there anyway to disable this. The receiveding > end does not have MIME capability. I will be sending them Mpack and > Munpack but what to do in the meantime? Any way to disable MIME in Pine? Simply include the file in the body of message. Don't use the attachment facility. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jean Pierre LeJacq Quoin, Inc Suite 200 North local voice: +1.203.295.0874 124 Mount Auburn Street voice: +1.617.576.5885 Cambridge, MA 02138 fax: +1.617.576.5876 U.S.A. email: jplejacq@oops.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 10:20:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26548; Wed, 31 May 95 10:20:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15976; Wed, 31 May 95 09:58:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15970; Wed, 31 May 95 09:58:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGqyd-00038SC; Wed, 31 May 95 09:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rahul Dhesi Subject: Re: PINE, please don't generate headers Date: 30 May 1995 22:24:37 GMT Message-Id: <3qg5v5$n5f@hustle.rahul.net> References: <3q5kll$5pa@ocean.CAM.ORG> Status: O X-Status: In Mark Crispin writes: >If gethostbyname() does >not do so on your system, it is because your system is misconfigured. ... >This makes a big -- and misguided -- assumption. ... >For every system in which sendmail has been carefully crafted to override >the MUAs to do exactly what the system manager wants, there are hundreds >in which sendmail's configuration is straight out of the box. Here is something from my archives. Date: 06 Apr 95 00:43:51 GMT From: Rahul Dhesi Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine,comp.mail.sendmail Subject: Re: Message-ID Organization: a2i network In Mike Lipscomb writes: >> the former gives a Message-ID >I had the same >problem until I read the PINE technical docs! always have the >fully-qualified domain name first and then any aliases for the /etc/hosts >entry. After some experimentation I found that although pine will use any specified 'user-domain' when forming the reply address, it will still use the local host name for the message-id, and apparently does not check to make sure that the part after the '@' is a fully-qualified domain name. It *could* append the 'user-domain' after the host name if the host name does not contain a dot, but does not do so. The basic problem is that the MTA is not being given an opportunity to do the things it knows most about, such as setting the correct reply address and message-id. The MUA is trying to do the MTA's job. A similar design flaw exists in the MH mail system, though it's not as acute, becaue MH tries to form the reply address but not the message-id. What saves the user is that in almost all cases, syntactically-invalid message-ids will be accepted by receiving software. I don't believe I have ever observed email to be bounced or dropped because of an invalid message-id. The only likely exception is that if a mail-to-News gateway preserves the message-id, the gatewayed posting will likely be dropped by inn sites, unless the gateway takes steps to correct the syntax in the message-id or generate a new one. Fortunately most such gateways just replace the old message-id with a new valid one. This issue is something to think about, but not worth losing sleep over. -- Rahul Dhesi "please ignore Dhesi" -- Mark Crispin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 10:33:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27111; Wed, 31 May 95 10:33:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10094; Wed, 31 May 95 10:18:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10088; Wed, 31 May 95 10:18:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGrCj-00038QC; Wed, 31 May 95 10:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: slarsen@teleport.com (Scott Larsen) Subject: *HELP* PC-PINE Reading UNIX PINE global address-book ??? Date: 31 May 1995 09:56:43 -0700 Message-Id: <3qi74b$8ig@kelly.teleport.com> Status: O X-Status: We've got PINE 3.91 running on our UNIX machines and we've setup a global address book that is defined in our "pine.conf.fixed" file. Everyone can get access to this address book just fine. Is there a way to configure PC-PINE to access this global address book off the UNIX machine? Scott Larsen slarsen@teleport.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "No amount of organization can counteract determined laziness." - Chris Hansen -- Scott Larsen slarsen@teleport.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 10:43:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27574; Wed, 31 May 95 10:43:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16633; Wed, 31 May 95 10:28:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16625; Wed, 31 May 95 10:28:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGrUf-00038EC; Wed, 31 May 95 10:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mraaum@ask.uio.no (Margrete Raaum) Subject: Locating pinerc (PC-pine) Date: 31 May 1995 11:04:21 GMT Message-Id: <3qhifl$mfn@hermod.uio.no> Status: O X-Status: We are using PC-Pine (3.91) with PC-NFS. Is there any way to have Pine read a pinerc-file located at a network drive, the program being located at the local drive? Alternatively we could have it copied to local disk before starting Pine, but if there is a way... Margrete From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 11:24:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29163; Wed, 31 May 95 11:24:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11435; Wed, 31 May 95 11:18:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11429; Wed, 31 May 95 11:18:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGsHT-00038EC; Wed, 31 May 95 11:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maryb@eskimo.com (Mary Brown) Subject: Re: How can I get a "successful delivered" mail after sending? Message-Id: References: <3phlqn$mfn@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 22:02:53 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article , "Paul O. Bartlett" wrote: > On Sat, 20 May 1995, Mary Brown wrote: > > Yes you can. Use the Custom Headers. I posted this question about how to > Please do post this information, especially as I was the one who > replied that it couldn't be done by Pine. Ok, I checked and this is what I added to the Setup/Configuration: customized-hdrs = Return-Receipt-To: maryb@eskimo.com That's it. It won't show up in your outgoing message unless you select Rich Headers. Works for me, anyway ... -- Mary D. Brown maryb@eskimo.com Check out my Home Page at http://www.eskimo.com/~maryb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 12:24:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01525; Wed, 31 May 95 12:24:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12764; Wed, 31 May 95 12:13:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12758; Wed, 31 May 95 12:13:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGt60-00038QC; Wed, 31 May 95 12:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmbill@laser.net Subject: remote mail server Date: Wed, 31 May 95 14:39:40 PDT Message-Id: <3qidis$6sm@news.laser.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I currently have 7 BSDI boxes. Is it possible to forward all mail to a new (8th) machine and have all my users get mail from that machine without logging into it? I am using Pine 3.91 and BSDI v2.0 I want to avoid the following: 1. users logging into the mail server. 2. entering users into the new machine 3. letting the users know the machine is there. Thanks Rick Bill rmbill@laser.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 12:24:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01604; Wed, 31 May 95 12:24:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12755; Wed, 31 May 95 12:13:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12749; Wed, 31 May 95 12:13:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGt2X-00038EC; Wed, 31 May 95 12:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Help with procmail and PINE Date: 31 May 1995 11:25:53 -0701 Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: Jim Maxwell writes: >I cannot figure out how to configure procmail to sort a mailing list that >uses the original sender's address as the "from" address. Please help me!! If the mailing address shows up in the To or Cc header, you can use procmail's ^TO to catch it. Lots of details are in my Filtering Mail FAQ, which is accessible from: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/writing.html/ Good luck, Nancy -- /\_/\ @..@ Please make sure your host gets the /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) new humanities.* newsgroups. Info ( o.o ) > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) is at http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 12:25:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01650; Wed, 31 May 95 12:25:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18649; Wed, 31 May 95 12:13:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18643; Wed, 31 May 95 12:13:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGt2y-00038UC; Wed, 31 May 95 12:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jennings@cs.unca.edu (Leslie Jennings) Subject: Shared address book Date: 30 May 1995 23:42:00 GMT Message-Id: <3qgag8$5e3@balsam.unca.edu> Status: O X-Status: How would I go about setting up a shared address book on a UNIX system? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 12:25:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01685; Wed, 31 May 95 12:25:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18641; Wed, 31 May 95 12:13:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18635; Wed, 31 May 95 12:13:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGt2a-00038TC; Wed, 31 May 95 12:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: srb@cuci.nl (Stephen R. van den Berg) Subject: Re: PINE, please don't generate headers Date: 31 May 1995 01:22:05 +0200 Message-Id: <3qg9at$1l0@zeus.cuci.nl> References: <3q5kll$5pa@ocean.CAM.ORG> <3qg5v5$n5f@hustle.rahul.net> Status: O X-Status: In article <3qg5v5$n5f@hustle.rahul.net>, Rahul Dhesi wrote: >In Mark Crispin writes: >>If gethostbyname() does >>not do so on your system, it is because your system is misconfigured. >What saves the user is that in almost all cases, syntactically-invalid >message-ids will be accepted by receiving software. I don't believe I >have ever observed email to be bounced or dropped because of an invalid >message-id. The only likely exception is that if a mail-to-News >gateway preserves the message-id, the gatewayed posting will likely be >dropped by inn sites, unless the gateway takes steps to correct the >syntax in the message-id or generate a new one. Fortunately most such >gateways just replace the old message-id with a new valid one. As far as I know, the only two requirements for message id fields are that: 1. They are unique. 2. To the right of the @-sign, there must be some text that should *look* like a domain name. If Pine chooses to append just the hostname and not the FQDN, then there is nothing wrong with the generated msgid, as long as (in its entirity) it is unique (in time and space). In fact, it doesn't even have to append the hostname, it could append just any name, as long as it looks like a domain name and as long as the entire msgid is unique. -- Sincerely, srb@cuci.nl Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless). This sentance contains threee errors. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 12:44:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02386; Wed, 31 May 95 12:44:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19015; Wed, 31 May 95 12:33:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19009; Wed, 31 May 95 12:33:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGtIz-00038EC; Wed, 31 May 95 12:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mksmith@u.washington.edu (Michael Smith) Subject: Attach-file problems Date: 21 May 1995 21:14:04 GMT Message-Id: <3poaes$7n8@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Status: O X-Status: I am having difficulties in attaching a Word file to e-mail as follows: 1) The document is saved in 'word' format, supposedly interchangeable between Mac and PC platforms. Note: the doc has also been saved in various windows formats. 2) Document is sent "sz" from my Mac w/ Z-term to my Unix account. 3) File is attached to mail using control key in Pine. 4) Receiver is unable to translate file; i.e. the file will not open in Word. I have not had this problem with files saved in text-only format, but I need to retain the formatting of the document including special characters. Can anyone help with this? -- ***Michael Smith***mksmith@u.washington.edu*** PGP Key (and other stuff) available at: http://weber.u.washington.edu/~mksmith/ or: ftp.u.washington.edu public/mksmith/PGPKey.asc From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 13:11:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04123; Wed, 31 May 95 13:11:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13673; Wed, 31 May 95 12:57:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from offsv1.cis.McMaster.CA by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13667; Wed, 31 May 95 12:57:21 -0700 Received: by offsv1.cis.mcmaster.ca id AA26939 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 31 May 1995 16:01:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 16:01:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Carolynn Seeley Subject: Split Mail Messages To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: We would be interested in finding out if anyone had a similar problem as I outlined below. There have been other instances of split mail but don't have as detailed information. Thanks for any help or light you may shed. Carolynn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carolynn Seeley email: seeley@mcmaster.ca Consultant, Office Systems Support cseeley@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca PINE Administrator Computing and Information Services McMaster University, ABB-132 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 13:48:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Carolynn Seeley To: David L Miller Subject: Split Mail Messages We have just recently moved our campus email server (called mcmail) from an SGI platform to a SUN 1000 O/S version 2.4. We are running version 8.6.9 of sendmail with PINE 3.89 . We have come across an oddity. A colleague on the same system saved approximately 6 of his email messages to a folder and then emailed the folder to me as an attachment to an email message. I saved the attachment as a file and then composed a message to myself and read in the file (^R) . I then mailed the message. My message to myself arrived blank and then all the email messages that had been included in the message arrived right after it as separate messages in my INBOX. None of the included messages had been addressed to me but I received them all as separate mail messages. Is this a bug or does a parameter or something need changing? Thanks for any information you can give me. Carolynn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carolynn Seeley email: seeley@mcmaster.ca Consultant, Office Systems Support cseeley@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca PINE Administrator Computing and Information Services McMaster University, ABB-132 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 13:26:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05069; Wed, 31 May 95 13:26:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20167; Wed, 31 May 95 13:18:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from starburst.umd.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20161; Wed, 31 May 95 13:18:02 -0700 Received: (from pinelist@localhost) by starburst.umd.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA08168; Wed, 31 May 1995 16:13:38 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 16:13:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Pine Discussion List To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: (Un-)setting nntp-server and/or news-collections in 3.91 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, I'm running 3.91 on a Sun SPARC. I have nntp-server set in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf, and I was wondering if it is possible to unset nntp-server for a single user while leaving the global pine.conf unchanged, so that News-Collections doesn't appear for that user only. TIA, Larry Lentner UMCEES/CBL Computer Center 410/326-7306 larry@cbl.umd.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 13:32:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05405; Wed, 31 May 95 13:32:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20216; Wed, 31 May 95 13:21:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20206; Wed, 31 May 95 13:21:14 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id QAA25452; Wed, 31 May 1995 16:20:18 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id QAA24581; Wed, 31 May 1995 16:20:17 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA28799; Wed, 31 May 95 16:18:50 EDT Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 16:18:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Carolynn Seeley Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Split Mail Messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 31 May 1995, Carolynn Seeley wrote: > > > We would be interested in finding out if anyone had a similar problem as I > outlined below. There have been other instances of split mail but don't > have as detailed information. > > Thanks for any help or light you may shed. > > Carolynn > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Carolynn Seeley email: seeley@mcmaster.ca > Consultant, Office Systems Support cseeley@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca > PINE Administrator > Computing and Information Services > McMaster University, ABB-132 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > We have just recently moved our campus email server (called mcmail) from > an SGI platform to a SUN 1000 O/S version 2.4. We are running version > 8.6.9 of sendmail with PINE 3.89 . > > We have come across an oddity. A colleague on the same system saved > approximately 6 of his email messages to a folder and then emailed the > folder to me as an attachment to an email message. I saved the attachment > as a file and then composed a message to myself and read in the file (^R) > . I then mailed the message. My message to myself arrived blank and then > all the email messages that had been included in the message arrived right > after it as separate messages in my INBOX. None of the included messages > had been addressed to me but I received them all as separate mail > messages. > > Is this a bug or does a parameter or something need changing? > I'm no expert, but it appears that, since you included your folder as part of your message body, that data appears in the INBOX as if it were individual messages. If you had read the data in with an offset or a preceding character (e.g., '>'), Pine would have not interpreted the header data as comprising individual message headers. The reason it went okay as a MIME'd attachment is that the headers don't look like headers. Hope that explains it. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 13:38:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05880; Wed, 31 May 95 13:38:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14734; Wed, 31 May 95 13:32:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14728; Wed, 31 May 95 13:32:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGuOV-00038VC; Wed, 31 May 95 13:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: reading mail in PC, possible? Date: 31 May 1995 12:43:02 -0700 Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: Paul O Bartlett writes: >On Sat, 27 May 1995, Special Weapons And Tactics wrote: >> Is that posssible to read the folders in PC like reading it in >> pine. [...] > >Just download the one you want to your PC and read it with >your favorite editor or file viewer. And possible choices for viewing the folders on your PC are PC-Pine for DOS and PS-Pine for Windows, which are available from: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine I think that in order to use these to view a folder on your PC you need to be connected to the Net - does anyone know if that's true? Thanks, Nancy -- /\_/\ @..@ Please make sure your host gets the /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) new humanities.* newsgroups. Info ( o.o ) > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) is at http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 14:17:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07996; Wed, 31 May 95 14:17:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21430; Wed, 31 May 95 14:10:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21424; Wed, 31 May 95 14:10:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGuzX-00038EC; Wed, 31 May 95 14:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrea@pX1.stfx.ca (John Andrea) Subject: pegasis to pcpine ? Date: 31 May 1995 17:13:14 -0300 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Has anyone written any code to convert a DOS Pegasis mail folder into a PC-Pine folder ? thanks -- __________________________________________________________________ John Andrea St. Francis Xavier Univ. University Computer Services Antigonish, NS, CANADA B2G 2W5 http://www.stfx.ca/people/jandrea/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 14:59:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09974; Wed, 31 May 95 14:59:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16562; Wed, 31 May 95 14:52:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16556; Wed, 31 May 95 14:52:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGvcI-00038EC; Wed, 31 May 95 14:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@sjfc.edu (System Manager) Subject: imapd in Pine 3.91 Message-Id: <1995May31.184925.9021@sjfc.edu> Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 18:49:25 GMT Status: O X-Status: I am in the process of installing Pine 3.91. We have had Pine 3.88 for a while so I am familiar with pine and pico which are created in the installation process. Also created are imapd and mtest with which I am not familiar. I know what imap means and does but the documentation that comes with Pine 3.91 is not very specific as what to do with imapd and mtest unless I missed it. I suspect that imapd is the daemon that accepts imap connections but how is it activated? Do I need to install additional software or is it all included in pine? Some daemons are activated by simply typing the name but that does not seem to work here. Can anyone enlighten me about how to use imapd and mtest or point me to the place where I might find that information? System Manager St. John Fisher College Rochester, NY 14618 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 16:21:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13422; Wed, 31 May 95 16:21:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18379; Wed, 31 May 95 16:14:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mizzou1.missouri.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18373; Wed, 31 May 95 16:14:53 -0700 Received: from lincolnu.edu by MIZZOU1.missouri.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Wed, 31 May 95 18:16:13 CDT Received: by lincolnu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00823; Wed, 31 May 95 18:16:28 CDT Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 18:16:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Gerry Howser Subject: Why can't I suppress headers? (second try) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: OK, here we go again. I am under a deadline to open up a PINE mail server to some executive types. I have been madated that the only headers that will appear on ANY email message from anywhere are DATE, TO, FROM, and SUBJECT. I have been informed that this is the standard for all email systems (????) and that I must comply. I have a lynix system that is running PINE 3.89 that shows only the four headers mentioned. Is this a configuration option that I can turn on and off? Do I need to hack the living daylights out of PINE? If you can help, I would appreciate it. I am running PINE 3.89 on a U6000/550 from UNISYS that is a System V Release 4 machine. I am beginning to suspect that my job rides on this one. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gerry Howser (POSTMASTER) howser@lincolnu.edu Manager of Systems, Programming, and Telecommunications Lincoln University Jefferson City, MO 65102-0029 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 16:26:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13608; Wed, 31 May 95 16:26:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23917; Wed, 31 May 95 16:22:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23911; Wed, 31 May 95 16:22:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGx33-00038EC; Wed, 31 May 95 16:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ii@best.com (Nancy McGough) Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: 31 May 1995 15:52:35 -0700 Message-Id: <3qis04$b56@shell1.best.com> Status: O X-Status: cancel in newsgroup comp.mail.pine This article was cancelled from within NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) -- /\_/\ @..@ Please make sure your host gets the /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) new humanities.* newsgroups. Info ( o.o ) > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) is at http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 16:33:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13906; Wed, 31 May 95 16:33:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18667; Wed, 31 May 95 16:27:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18661; Wed, 31 May 95 16:27:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGx5V-00038FC; Wed, 31 May 95 16:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Help with procmail and PINE Date: 31 May 1995 15:54:06 -0700 Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: Jim Maxwell writes: >I cannot figure out how to configure procmail to sort a mailing list that >uses the original sender's address as the "from" address. Please help me!! If the mailing address shows up in the To or Cc header, you can use procmail's ^TO to catch it. Lots of details are in my Filtering Mail FAQ, which is accessible from: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/writing.html Good luck, Nancy -- /\_/\ @..@ Please make sure your host gets the /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) new humanities.* newsgroups. Info ( o.o ) > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) is at http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 16:34:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13963; Wed, 31 May 95 16:34:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24011; Wed, 31 May 95 16:27:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24005; Wed, 31 May 95 16:27:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGx7q-00038EC; Wed, 31 May 95 16:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Wenzel Subject: autoreply with PINE (Systemn V) ??? Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 15:11:58 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi! I know, that elm has an autoreply-feature. We all know, that pine is the better mailer, but is there any possibility to autoreply messages with pine? Answeres (PMail) to: bye \|/ @ @ +-------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo-----------------------+ | Ralf Wenzel | n06600@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 16:49:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14783; Wed, 31 May 95 16:49:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24302; Wed, 31 May 95 16:42:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24296; Wed, 31 May 95 16:42:54 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23774; Wed, 31 May 95 16:42:50 -0700 Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 16:42:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Scott Larsen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: *HELP* PC-PINE Reading UNIX PINE global address-book ??? In-Reply-To: <3qi74b$8ig@kelly.teleport.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Only if the PCs have access to Unix files via SMB or NFS... This is an issue that will be revisited at a future date. -teg On 31 May 1995, Scott Larsen wrote: > We've got PINE 3.91 running on our UNIX machines and we've setup a global > address book that is defined in our "pine.conf.fixed" file. Everyone > can get access to this address book just fine. > > Is there a way to configure PC-PINE to access this global address book > off the UNIX machine? > > > Scott Larsen > slarsen@teleport.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > "No amount of organization can counteract determined laziness." > - Chris Hansen > -- > Scott Larsen > slarsen@teleport.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 16:52:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14855; Wed, 31 May 95 16:52:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24206; Wed, 31 May 95 16:38:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24197; Wed, 31 May 95 16:38:15 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24446; Wed, 31 May 95 16:38:08 -0700 Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 16:38:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Gerry Howser Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Why can't I suppress headers? (second try) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Gerry, I think the reason you haven't had much response to your inquiry is that we're all confused by your request (at least I am). Pine's normal behavior is to display exactly and only the four headers you seem to want displayed, and what you apparently *do* see displayed on your "Lynix" (sic) system. As David indicated, you really have to work to get Pine to display *full* headers... So what *exactly* are you seeing on the Unisys system? Does the Full Headers toggle not work? What happens when you use the H cmd? Can you capture a screen to illustrate the problem? Are you sure somebody didn't stick an "H" in your initial-keystroke-list? I assume that the requirement is that only the above four headers be displayed to Pine users --not that someone thinks they should never be generated, lest they annoy someone who is not using Pine. I also assume that we are talking about the headers of the currently displayed message, not any message headers that might have been included by the sender as part of the message text... -teg On Wed, 31 May 1995, Gerry Howser wrote: > OK, here we go again. I am under a deadline to open up a PINE mail > server to some executive types. I have been madated that the only > headers that will appear on ANY email message from anywhere are DATE, TO, > FROM, and SUBJECT. I have been informed that this is the standard for > all email systems (????) and that I must comply. I have a lynix system > that is running PINE 3.89 that shows only the four headers mentioned. Is > this a configuration option that I can turn on and off? Do I need to > hack the living daylights out of PINE? > > If you can help, I would appreciate it. I am running PINE 3.89 on a > U6000/550 from UNISYS that is a System V Release 4 machine. I am > beginning to suspect that my job rides on this one. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gerry Howser (POSTMASTER) > howser@lincolnu.edu > Manager of Systems, Programming, and Telecommunications > Lincoln University > Jefferson City, MO 65102-0029 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 17:00:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15058; Wed, 31 May 95 17:00:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24534; Wed, 31 May 95 16:55:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mizzou1.missouri.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24528; Wed, 31 May 95 16:55:31 -0700 Received: from lincolnu.edu by MIZZOU1.missouri.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Wed, 31 May 95 18:56:49 CDT Received: by lincolnu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00981; Wed, 31 May 95 18:57:03 CDT Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 18:57:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Gerry Howser Subject: Re: Why can't I suppress headers? (second try) To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Ok, here we go again. The headers that are giving problems are in the message that I have included below. I am seeing with pine all the normal internet messages such as Received: from blah by someone (junk, junk, junk, junk...) and things like Message-Id and so on. These are normal on all email systems I have used on the internet such as RICE mail or Bitnote and so on. I strongly suspect that PINE is not generating any of these but instead is unable to supress them in my case. I am going to bcc this to another account to be sure that what is sent out is what I suspect. Hope this helps as I am in a REAL bind. PS. I think it is a simple UNIX problem and not PINE per se. I am a simple mind as far as UNIX is concerned, but either not smart enough or not stupid enough to see how to fix this. By the way, the H toggle does suppress or show one or two headers but does not significantly change the situation. On Wed, 31 May 1995, Terry Gray wrote: > Return-Path: > Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by lincolnu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) > id AA00909; Wed, 31 May 95 18:39:48 CDT > Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu > (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24446; > Wed, 31 May 95 16:38:08 -0700 > Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 16:38:06 -0700 (PDT) > From: Terry Gray > To: Gerry Howser > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Why can't I suppress headers? (second try) > In-Reply-To: > Message-Id: > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > Gerry, > I think the reason you haven't had much response to your inquiry is > that we're all confused by your request (at least I am). Pine's normal > behavior is to display exactly and only the four headers you seem to want > displayed, and what you apparently *do* see displayed on your "Lynix" > (sic) system. As David indicated, you really have to work to get Pine to > display *full* headers... > > So what *exactly* are you seeing on the Unisys system? > Does the Full Headers toggle not work? What happens when you use the H cmd? > Can you capture a screen to illustrate the problem? > Are you sure somebody didn't stick an "H" in your initial-keystroke-list? > > I assume that the requirement is that only the above four headers be > displayed to Pine users --not that someone thinks they should never be > generated, lest they annoy someone who is not using Pine. I also assume > that we are talking about the headers of the currently displayed message, > not any message headers that might have been included by the sender as > part of the message text... > > -teg > > On Wed, 31 May 1995, Gerry Howser wrote: > > > OK, here we go again. I am under a deadline to open up a PINE mail > > server to some executive types. I have been madated that the only > > headers that will appear on ANY email message from anywhere are DATE, TO, > > FROM, and SUBJECT. I have been informed that this is the standard for > > all email systems (????) and that I must comply. I have a lynix system > > that is running PINE 3.89 that shows only the four headers mentioned. Is > > this a configuration option that I can turn on and off? Do I need to > > hack the living daylights out of PINE? > > > > If you can help, I would appreciate it. I am running PINE 3.89 on a > > U6000/550 from UNISYS that is a System V Release 4 machine. I am > > beginning to suspect that my job rides on this one. > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gerry Howser (POSTMASTER) > > howser@lincolnu.edu > > Manager of Systems, Programming, and Telecommunications > > Lincoln University > > Jefferson City, MO 65102-0029 > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gerry Howser (POSTMASTER) howser@lincolnu.edu Manager of Systems, Programming, and Telecommunications Lincoln University Jefferson City, MO 65102-0029 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 17:21:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16725; Wed, 31 May 95 17:21:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19937; Wed, 31 May 95 17:12:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19929; Wed, 31 May 95 17:12:57 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25074; Wed, 31 May 95 17:12:48 -0700 Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 17:12:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Gerry Howser Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Why can't I suppress headers? (second try) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Gerry, The headers in question are indeed a normal part of all Internet mail messages... the only issue is whether they get displayed when you view the message. So I claim I never see these headers in Pine unless: o I turn on Full Header mode, or o Someone sends me a message with such headers included. You claim you *always* see them in Pine on Unisys, but that you *never* see them in Pine on Linux. So where do we go from here? The Pine display code is identical for both versions. I wonder if it is possible that the mail delivery agent on the Unisys machine is adding an errant newline to messages, so that some of the headers are being treated as part of the message body. That might also explain why toggling H only showed a couple of more lines. -teg On Wed, 31 May 1995, Gerry Howser wrote: > Ok, here we go again. The headers that are giving problems are in the > message that I have included below. I am seeing with pine all the > normal internet messages such as Received: from blah by someone (junk, > junk, junk, junk...) > and things like Message-Id and so on. > > These are normal on all email systems I have used on the internet such > as RICE mail or Bitnote and so on. I strongly suspect that PINE is not > generating any of these but instead is unable to supress them in my case. > > I am going to bcc this to another account to be sure that what is sent > out is what I suspect. Hope this helps as I am in a REAL bind. > > PS. I think it is a simple UNIX problem and not PINE per se. I am a > simple mind as far as UNIX is concerned, but either not smart enough or > not stupid enough to see how to fix this. > > By the way, the H toggle does suppress or show one or two headers but > does not significantly change the situation. > > On > Wed, 31 May 1995, Terry Gray wrote: > > > Return-Path: > > Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by lincolnu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) > > id AA00909; Wed, 31 May 95 18:39:48 CDT > > Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu > > (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24446; > > Wed, 31 May 95 16:38:08 -0700 > > Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 16:38:06 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Terry Gray > > To: Gerry Howser > > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > Subject: Re: Why can't I suppress headers? (second try) > > In-Reply-To: > > Message-Id: > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > > Gerry, > > I think the reason you haven't had much response to your inquiry is > > that we're all confused by your request (at least I am). Pine's normal > > behavior is to display exactly and only the four headers you seem to want > > displayed, and what you apparently *do* see displayed on your "Lynix" > > (sic) system. As David indicated, you really have to work to get Pine to > > display *full* headers... > > > > So what *exactly* are you seeing on the Unisys system? > > Does the Full Headers toggle not work? What happens when you use the H cmd? > > Can you capture a screen to illustrate the problem? > > Are you sure somebody didn't stick an "H" in your initial-keystroke-list? > > > > I assume that the requirement is that only the above four headers be > > displayed to Pine users --not that someone thinks they should never be > > generated, lest they annoy someone who is not using Pine. I also assume > > that we are talking about the headers of the currently displayed message, > > not any message headers that might have been included by the sender as > > part of the message text... > > > > -teg > > > > On Wed, 31 May 1995, Gerry Howser wrote: > > > > > OK, here we go again. I am under a deadline to open up a PINE mail > > > server to some executive types. I have been madated that the only > > > headers that will appear on ANY email message from anywhere are DATE, TO, > > > FROM, and SUBJECT. I have been informed that this is the standard for > > > all email systems (????) and that I must comply. I have a lynix system > > > that is running PINE 3.89 that shows only the four headers mentioned. Is > > > this a configuration option that I can turn on and off? Do I need to > > > hack the living daylights out of PINE? > > > > > > If you can help, I would appreciate it. I am running PINE 3.89 on a > > > U6000/550 from UNISYS that is a System V Release 4 machine. I am > > > beginning to suspect that my job rides on this one. > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gerry Howser (POSTMASTER) > > > howser@lincolnu.edu > > > Manager of Systems, Programming, and Telecommunications > > > Lincoln University > > > Jefferson City, MO 65102-0029 > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gerry Howser (POSTMASTER) > howser@lincolnu.edu > Manager of Systems, Programming, and Telecommunications > Lincoln University > Jefferson City, MO 65102-0029 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 17:23:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16820; Wed, 31 May 95 17:23:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25154; Wed, 31 May 95 17:19:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mizzou1.missouri.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25148; Wed, 31 May 95 17:19:31 -0700 Received: from lincolnu.edu by MIZZOU1.missouri.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Wed, 31 May 95 19:20:49 CDT Received: by lincolnu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01130; Wed, 31 May 95 19:21:04 CDT Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 19:21:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Gerry Howser Subject: Re: Why can't I suppress headers? (second try) To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I agree that the mailer on the Unisys may be including an errant line. There was an earlier problem like that with POP3 clients. Any ideas? I strongly suspect a blank line BEFORE the actual header (may be just a NEWLINE) is the problem. The question is: Who do I hang? Unless my wits have deserted me completly, isn't the first blank line, or single newline character, the definition of the end of the header and beginning of the body? If so, I am going to rattle some cages at UNISYS! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gerry Howser (POSTMASTER) howser@lincolnu.edu Manager of Systems, Programming, and Telecommunications Lincoln University Jefferson City, MO 65102-0029 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 18:33:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18864; Wed, 31 May 95 18:33:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21182; Wed, 31 May 95 18:21:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21176; Wed, 31 May 95 18:21:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGyvS-00038FC; Wed, 31 May 95 18:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Help with procmail and PINE Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 20:27:29 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 30 May 1995, Jim Maxwell wrote: > Date: Tue, 30 MAY 1995 19:34:18 -0600 > From: Jim Maxwell > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Help with procmail and PINE > > I cannot figure out how to configure procmail to sort a mailing list that > uses the original sender's address as the "from" address. Please help me!! > > ============================================================================= > Jim > jmaxwell@thelair.zynet.com There should be plenty of people on the procmail mailing list who can help you with procmail questions. I follow it and have picked up good information there. To subscribe, send a one-line message to: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de the one-line message being: sub procmail This will subscribe you and get you a little subscription information. If your answer is not in the archives, send your question to the address procmail@ as above (rather than to procmail-request@). Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 31 19:17:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19892; Wed, 31 May 95 19:17:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26526; Wed, 31 May 95 19:05:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26520; Wed, 31 May 95 19:05:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sGzbj-00038FC; Wed, 31 May 95 19:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley) Subject: Re: PINE, please don't generate headers Date: 31 May 1995 19:10:06 GMT Message-Id: <3qieue$lbh@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> References: <3q5kll$5pa@ocean.CAM.ORG> <3qg5v5$n5f@hustle.rahul.net> <3qg9at$1l0@zeus.cuci.nl> Status: O X-Status: In article <3qg9at$1l0@zeus.cuci.nl>, Stephen R. van den Berg wrote: >>dropped by inn sites, unless the gateway takes steps to correct the >>syntax in the message-id or generate a new one. Fortunately most such >>gateways just replace the old message-id with a new valid one. As the manager of a gateway, I have had to include code to massage message id's received from mail into ones acceptable to news. Mostly removing spaces, but also removing illegal characters. >As far as I know, the only two requirements for message id fields >are that: >1. They are unique. >2. To the right of the @-sign, there must be some text that should *look* > like a domain name. There is also a limitation on what characters they may contain. >If Pine chooses to append just the hostname and not the FQDN, then >there is nothing wrong with the generated msgid, as long as (in its >entirity) it is unique (in time and space). There are two parts of the message id for a reason. There is the local side, which a system CAN guarantee is unique locally but cannot guarantee globally, and the FQDN, which can be guaranteed globally unique but is not locally unique. Together, the whole is guaranteed globally unique. There is no guarantee of uniqueness if the host uses only its local hostname. There are many sites named "skyking" for example, but only one "skyking.oce.orst.edu". If both used just "skyking", and both used the same algorithm for message id's (not uncommon, if they both run the same news code), they can generate the same message id. Unlikely, but the RFC doesn't say "probably unique".