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Hi,

I have the PC-Pine installed in my Windows.
But in the installation, pine did assume the "home dir" was c:\mail, 
however I want put mail in another drive, like f:

How and where can I change the "home dir" configuration?
Anybody can help me?

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On Sun, 3 Nov 2002, Ema Fernandes wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have the PC-Pine installed in my Windows.
> But in the installation, pine did assume the "home dir" was c:\mail,
> however I want put mail in another drive, like f:
>
> How and where can I change the "home dir" configuration?
> Anybody can help me?
>
> Thank you very much,
> Ema Fernandes
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In the setup menu, use "L" (Collection Lists). There you can define a
directory (or several, in fact) to suit your purposes.

Alternatively, you can do it manually by editing the "pinerc" file (in
the directory where your pine resides). There you will find an entry:
  `list of directories where saved-message folders may be.'
Set the variable
        folder-collections=

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On 3 Nov 2002 Cornelius C. Noack (noack@physik.uni-bremen.de) wrote:
> >
> In the setup menu, use "L" (Collection Lists). There you can define a
> directory (or several, in fact) to suit your purposes.
>
> Alternatively, you can do it manually by editing the "pinerc" file (in
> the directory where your pine resides). There you will find an entry:
>   `list of directories where saved-message folders may be.'
> Set the variable
>         folder-collections=

Another alternative is to set the HOME environment variable on
your PC. I describe how to do that here

 <http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#setEnvVars>

HTH,
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Hello,

Does anyone here have experience with Pine on Debian? I'm
not sure what happened with my Pine installation. It freezes
shortly after opening when it goes to the Inbox (I think.)
The progress monitor in the centre near the bottom simply
says Busy. At first it complained about an incorrect email
address before it froze. I have removed it and tried to
purge all the configuration files (.pinerc). Then I
reinstalled and it started freezing all over again. I can't
seem to configure it to a clean setup. Strangely it works
fine for the other user accounts on my system.

Any help would be appreciated. I've installed Mutt in the
meantime and I'm kind of eager to get back to Pine.

Cheers,
Nick

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I've received several spam/virus messages on the pine-info mailing
list over the past few days that claim to be from "casner@acm.org".
This is a forged address.  I doubt that these messages are coming from
any of my hosts because I follow safe computing practices and I use
Pine rather than virus-spreading agents.  However, some of the people
with whom I communicate use systems that could have been compromised.

The messages that come through the list only show the Received lines
starting from UW, so I don't have any hints as to where these messages
may have originated.  Can anyone there provide some info?

Presuming that everyone on the list is seeing these messages, all I
can say is I'm sorry this is happening, but I'm not sure if there is
anything I can do about it.

                                                        -- Steve

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Il giorno Mon, 4 Nov 2002, nick cos=EC ha scritto:

|From: nick <nicholas.heron@shaw.ca>
|To: Pine Discussion Forum <pine-info@u.washington.edu>
|Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 14:25:11 -0800
|Subject: pine on debian
|
|Hello,
|
|Does anyone here have experience with Pine on Debian?

  Mine works all right.  I complied it from the official 4.44 sources.  Wha=
t
sources did you use?  The official ones or the non-free Debian ones?

| I'm
|not sure what happened with my Pine installation. It freezes
|shortly after opening when it goes to the Inbox (I think.)

  "I think"?  Please, try to find out the exact circumstances when the prob=
lem
occures, it will make debugging much easier.

|The progress monitor in the centre near the bottom simply
|says Busy. At first it complained about an incorrect email
|address before it froze. I have removed it and tried to
|purge all the configuration files (.pinerc). Then I
|reinstalled and it started freezing all over again. I can't
|seem to configure it to a clean setup. Strangely it works
|fine for the other user accounts on my system.
|

  Can "mail" access the local mailbox?  Are the local mailbox's permissions=
 all
right?  Try a ls -l /var/mail/$USER .  I suspect the problem lies in the
configuration file, since mutt apparently does not experience any difficult=
y.





  Sandro



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My imitation of Andy Rooney.

1) Don't you hate it when you do a go to folder, type in a partial
name, hit tab to go to the list, hit return on an item.. and then it
simply fills in the Go To prompt, instead of actually just GOING there?

  1B) Don't you hate it.. that the folders, e.g. sent-mail* aren't
sorted by date, and are sorted alphabetically?   That is, I wish it went
sent-mail
sent-mail-jan-2001
sent-mail-feb-2001
sent-mail-mar-2001
....
sent-mail-jan-2002
...
sent-mail-oct-2002

(and you can still do the columns, as long as it goes in that order, e.g.
left to right top to bottom)


2) Do I have some pref set wrong, since I could swear this worked at one
point.  If I do a "save to folder" and fill in a different name, it
doesn't keep using that different name.  I wish I could fill in a
default to use the first time, PLUS have it stick when I change it..


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Hi there,

I was trying to get Pine displaying the number of new messages that I have
in each of my folders. Something like : INBOX(3)   lkml(2)...I have a
dozen folders, and it would be really nice if I can directly see which
one i have to open to check new messages. I quickly realized that this
is not possible with the latest version of Pine.
So, I'd like to know if this feature belongs to the Pine TODO list, and is
expected to appear in the next versions.

Thanks in advance for your answers,
Samuel.


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On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Stephen Casner wrote:

> The messages that come through the list only show the Received lines
> starting from UW, so I don't have any hints as to where these messages
> may have originated.  Can anyone there provide some info?

I tried to track a couple of them. They were similar. One arrived at
mailhost2.u.washington.edu from [65.217.26.231] with an apparently forged
HELO parameter of mailhost.u.washington.edu. The other was similar
arriving at mailhost1.u.washington.edu from [65.217.26.12] with a forged
HELO of mailhost.u.washington.edu. Both had the header From: casner@acm.org,
also apparently forged. 65.217.26.xx appears to be in uu.net address
space, at least according to DNS.

Mailhost.u.washington.edu could probably be picked up by looking at past
posts to pine-info, as could casner@acm.org.

Something about the mail caused the washington.edu infrastructure to split
those real headers off into the body of the message. I expect there was a
virus in the mail and our virus scanners tried to clean the virus and
forward the mail. So there was probably initially an evil attachment that
was no longer there by the time it made it to pine-info.

I think the conclusion is that it is spam and it is from you because the
list only allows posting by list members and you got lucky!

> Presuming that everyone on the list is seeing these messages, all I
> can say is I'm sorry this is happening, but I'm not sure if there is
> anything I can do about it.
>
>                                                         -- Steve

I agree. Nothing you can do about it and probably nothing we can do about
it for now. We're working on advancing the state of our virus scanning
stuff so that we wouldn't pass this stuff on to the list.

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> I was trying to get Pine displaying the number of new messages that I have
> in each of my folders. Something like : INBOX(3)   lkml(2)...I have a
> [...]
> So, I'd like to know if this feature belongs to the Pine TODO list, and is
> expected to appear in the next versions.
>
> Thanks in advance for your answers,
> Samuel.

It is on the TODO list (and definitely in the upper half of the list) but
it will not be in the next version. We wish it were there, too.

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Recently I added the configuration character-set=US-ASCII,iso-8859-1,
but I don't believe it is working correctly.  Some email messages
produce the following:

[ The following text is in the "iso-8859-1" character set. ]
[ Your display is set for the "US-ASCII,iso-8859-1" character set.  ]
[ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ]


What is the proper way to add more than one display type?

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On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Steve Hubert wrote:

> > I was trying to get Pine displaying the number of new messages that I have
> > in each of my folders. Something like : INBOX(3)   lkml(2)...I have a
> > [...]
> > So, I'd like to know if this feature belongs to the Pine TODO list, and is
> > expected to appear in the next versions.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your answers,
> > Samuel.
>
> It is on the TODO list (and definitely in the upper half of the list) but
> it will not be in the next version. We wish it were there, too.
Good news. Is someone already working on it ? If not, do you mind if I
start looking at it ?

Thanks for your help,
Samuel.


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Hello,

I'm experiencing the same problem on debian - I'm not so sure it's debian-specific though.

| I'm
|not sure what happened with my Pine installation. It freezes
|shortly after opening when it goes to the Inbox (I think.)

Actually it does not freeze. If you are patient enough, you'll see pine come alive again.

|The progress monitor in the centre near the bottom simply
|says Busy. At first it complained about an incorrect email
|address before it froze. I have removed it and tried to
|purge all the configuration files (.pinerc). Then I
|reinstalled and it started freezing all over again. I can't
|seem to configure it to a clean setup. Strangely it works
|fine for the other user accounts on my system.

It was and still is a problem on my box. It turns out to be connected with your home directory,
therefore it depends on the user that runs pine. For some reason pine starts to search through the
user's home directory, which in my case is quite large tree populated with a couple thousand of
smaller files, so it took a while to finish.

Still I can't decide what pine's looking for. strace shows it starts searching after it has found
my mailbox in /var/mail.

Obviously moving this large tree to another location is a dumb solution, so if someone knows what
pine's looking for in my home dir, and if there's a configuration directive to skip this, please
inform me.

Thank you,
Zoltan

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I'm very interested in this feature as well. I'd be willing to do some of
the work too if need be (but it might be a one person kind of job).

Allen Z

On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Samuel Ortiz wrote:

> On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Steve Hubert wrote:
>
> > It is on the TODO list (and definitely in the upper half of the list) but
> > it will not be in the next version. We wish it were there, too.
> Good news. Is someone already working on it ? If not, do you mind if I
> start looking at it ?
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Samuel.
>
>


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On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Samuel Ortiz wrote:

> Good news. Is someone already working on it ? If not, do you mind if I
> start looking at it ?
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Samuel.

We (at UW) have spent considerable time and energy talking about it and
exploring options but haven't gotten to the point of getting anything at
all into pine. We decided to shelf it and do some other stuff for pine
4.50 instead. Hopefully we'll get back to it after 4.50 settles down.
There have been several attempts over the past few years to do this right.
To get a flavor of what you are dealing with take a look at the Internet
Draft "Simple Notification and Alarm Protocol (SNAP)" by Shapira and Aloni
(draft-shapira-snap-05.txt). Of course, we don't mind if you look at it
but realize that it is a difficult problem.

Steve

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On Nov 6, 2002, 16:38 (-0700) SoloCDM <deedsmis@aculink.net> wrote:

> Recently I added the configuration character-set=3DUS-ASCII,iso-8859-1,
> but I don't believe it is working correctly.  Some email messages
> produce the following:
>
> [ The following text is in the "iso-8859-1" character set. ]
> [ Your display is set for the "US-ASCII,iso-8859-1" character set.  ]
> [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ]
>
>
> What is the proper way to add more than one display type?

You should not have both, just "ISO-8859-1". "US-ASCII" is a true subset
of "ISO-8859-1", so if it supports the latter, it will by definition
support the former.



Mats

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From: Michael Abbott <michael@araneidae.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: Enhancing Folder list
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> Hi there,
>
> I was trying to get Pine displaying the number of new messages that I have
> in each of my folders. Something like : INBOX(3)   lkml(2)...I have a
> dozen folders, and it would be really nice if I can directly see which
> one i have to open to check new messages. I quickly realized that this
> is not possible with the latest version of Pine.
> So, I'd like to know if this feature belongs to the Pine TODO list, and is
> expected to appear in the next versions.

Hear hear!  I also would be very pleased to see this.



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From: Jason Rashaad Jackson <jrashaad@umich.edu>
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Hello:

  Our PINE users are experiencing extreme difficulties trying to use PINE to
  access their e-mail accounts.  On occasion, the program will lock up,
  displaying "server timeout...15 seconds" which will continue until PINE
  asks to break the connection.  There seems to be no rescue from this
  point, and there's nothing to do but exit the program and restart it.  We
  are running rapidly out of ideas, and would appreciate any help you could
  offer.  Here are the facts:

Client facts - University of Washington PINE
========
- same issue with different versions of pine (4.30, 4.33, 4.44)
- same issue with pine running on different systems  (Both our login server
  as well as login.itd.umich.edu)
- Telemetry reports show only 'tcptimeout 15...30...etc' when errors occur.
- happens both with kerberized imap connections, and with plain-text
authentication (inside an ssltunnel)
- no problems with other clients (Mulberry, fetchmail, IMP)

Server facts - Carnegie Mellon Cyrus IMAP daemon v.1.6.22
========
- CAPABILITY - CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 ACL QUOTA LITERAL+ NAMESPACE
  UIDPLUS X-NON-HIERARCHICAL-RENAME NO_ATOMIC_RENAME LOGINDISABLED
  AUTH=KERBEROS_V4 UNSELECT
- bigbrother checks periodically for active imap connections, no complaint
- cpu usage above 450 on server will issue an alert. No alerts have been
issued, so CPU utilizaiton is not a likely candidate
- Logs show successful mailbox opening, no errors or further information
  when timeouts occur

  Any other information you need I can furnish.  We're at our wits end.
  Thanks!

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From: Lee Rice <lee.rice@marquette.edu>
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Subject: Help needed
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    My institution just changed from an old Postmarq server to a new 
Emarq server. On the old system I used PINE from our VAX cluster to
access the Postmarq server, but this is no longer an option. So I
downloaded the current version of PINE and installed it on my home
system. I have succeeded in configuring it so that I can log into the
new server and RETRIEVE mail. BUT when I attempt to SEND or REPLY I
receive the following error message:

                    Client was not authenticated.

The Emarq server is running under Windoze, which means that there is no
usable documentation. My guess is that, when mail is SENT it also wants
the username and password. Is there some easy fix for this in the PINE
configuration commands which will enable me to send mail also ?? [I was
able to install Mozilla, whose mail function can both RECEIVE and SEND,
but I dislike web-based browsers, and would much prefer to continue 
using PINE.]

    I would be very grateful for any suggestions.

Thanks,
	Lee Rice
	lee.rice@marquette.edu

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From: Noah Garrett Wallach <sleek@enabled.com>
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Okay on am on a FreeBSD 4.7 Stable release box running sendmail:

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220 typhoon.enabled.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.6/8.12.6; Tue, 12 Nov 2002
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noah@typhoon% uname -a
[~]
FreeBSD typhoon.enabled.com 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #0: Thu Nov  7
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i386

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after pine sends a message - it fires up sendmail fine and then sendmail
completes its task but pine still thinks that it is sending a message and
hangs.  what can I do about this?

- Noah



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Not a great response to this - and there have been suggested work
arounds but none have worked for me.  Time to start considering
another mailer - I guess?




Okay on am on a FreeBSD 4.7 Stable release box running sendmail:

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220 typhoon.enabled.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.6/8.12.6; Tue, 12 Nov 2002
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noah@typhoon% uname -a
[~]
FreeBSD typhoon.enabled.com 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #0: Thu Nov  7
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i386

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after pine sends a message - it fires up sendmail fine and then sendmail
completes its task but pine still thinks that it is sending a message and
hangs.  what can I do about this?

- Noah




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I haven't seen the suggested work-arounds. I would try setting the
smtp-server config variable to localhost, or the name of your local host
if it is running an smtp server. If not, try setting it to the name of a
host that is running and smtp server which you have access to.

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Hello, 

I need a mailystem which is compatibel for Linux, MS-DOS (wattcp), 
Win3.11 (win32s + tcp32b) and Win95. 

Is it possibel to compile pine for the required OS ? 

Is there maildir support ? (I use nfs als filesystem on all computers 
and with malbox you can shoot yourself...) 

Thanks in advance
Michelle

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Hello,

I use PCPine to read my mail. When I receive email
sent by people using outlook as client, I have some strange
characters (mainly when using french specific like "=E7" "=E0" ...)
is there a way for me to change encoding or any cfg parameter
within pcpine in order to properly match those symbols ?

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I doubt this works on 10.1, and I've only tested it on 10.2.2, but I think
it ought to work on any 10.2.

OS X comes with OpenLDAP 2.1.x. Between OpenLDAP 2.0 and 2.1, a number of
functions were removed, notably the ldap_url_* functions. Pine 4.44 uses
ldap_url_search_st in adrbkcmd.c, so if you try to compile it against the
system libraries as-is, you'll get a link error.

This patch changes the call from 2.0-style to 2.1-style:

diff -Naur pine4.44-orig/pine/adrbkcmd.c pine4.44/pine/adrbkcmd.c
--- pine4.44-orig/pine/adrbkcmd.c       Tue Sep 11 10:44:17 2001
+++ pine4.44/pine/adrbkcmd.c    Tue Nov 19 17:18:37 2002
@@ -7281,6 +7281,7 @@
     LDAP_SERV_S     *info;
     LDAP_SERV_RES_S *serv_res = NULL;
     WP_ERR_S wp_err;
+    LDAPURLDesc *ldapurl;

     dprint(2, (debugfile, "url_local_ldap(%s)\n", url));

@@ -7304,7 +7305,16 @@
       our_ldap_set_option(ld, LDAP_OPT_RESTART, LDAP_OPT_ON);

       t.tv_sec = 30; t.tv_usec = 0;
-      if((ld_err = ldap_url_search_st(ld,url,0,&t,&result)) != LDAP_SUCCESS){
+
+      ld_err = ldap_url_parse_ext(url, ldapurl);
+      if ( ld_err == 0 ) {
+       ld_err = ldap_search_st(ld, ldapurl->lud_dn, ldapurl->lud_scope,
+                               ldapurl->lud_filter, ldapurl->lud_attrs,
+                               0, &t, &result);
+       ldap_free_urldesc(ldapurl);
+      }
+
+      if(ld_err != LDAP_SUCCESS){
        sprintf(ebuf, "LDAP search failed: %.200s", ldap_err2string(ld_err));
        q_status_message(SM_ORDER, 3, 5, ebuf);
        ldap_unbind(ld);

You'll probably also have to modify contrib/ldap-setup to make sure it
exits with a return value of 3. My simple expedient is to replace the
entire script with this one:

#!/bin/sh
exit 3

I'm sure there's a better way to do that, though. Then, in the pine4.44
directory, do this:

mkdir ldap
ln -s /usr/include ldap/
ln -s /usr/lib ldap/libraries

(If you haven't already edited pico/osdep/os-osx.h to comment out the line
near the end which reads:
extern int   sys_nerr;
now would be a good time to do that, or the build will fail.)

To build pine, run the build script like so:

./build osx EXTRALDFLAGS=-lncurses

Standard disclaimers apply. I'm not a very good programmer, so someone
might want to take a closer look at my patch to make sure it doesn't do
Bad Things. I just saw a similar patch for another project and modified it
to fit Pine.

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On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Bertrand PEREZ (123Multimedia) wrote:

> I use PCPine to read my mail. When I receive email
> sent by people using outlook as client, I have some strange
> characters (mainly when using french specific like "=E7" "=E0" ...)
> is there a way for me to change encoding or any cfg parameter
> within pcpine in order to properly match those symbols ?

Not sure what those characters look like on your end, but on this end (one
computer using Pine/MacOSX and another using Pine/Cygwin/Win2k) they both
display as apparently properly accented letters (the "goateed C" as in
iirc 'garcon' -- it's been a loooong time since I took french but I think
garcon has that accent... -- and the top, left pointing accented A). Is
this not what you've got in PC-Pine?

If you're still having problems, it's probably the terminal settings of
the DOS prompt. There may be more direct ways to fix this for you, but if
nothing else you can install Cygwin (http://www.cygwin.com/setup.exe) and
then in turn use it to install its version of Pine, maybe a terminal
emulator (rxvt is kind of nice), etc.


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On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Michelle Konzack wrote:

> I need a mailystem which is compatibel for Linux, MS-DOS (wattcp),
> Win3.11 (win32s + tcp32b) and Win95.
>
> Is it possibel to compile pine for the required OS ?

Not sure about Win3.1, but otherwise yeah, this should be possible, using
either Cygwin for the Win95 machine [1] or just with PC-Pine [2].

Alternatively, you can just install it on the Linux machine[s], and then
access mail by connecting to it from the PCs with ssh or telnet. That way
all users work all mail from a single, easily maintainable source. (This
is how I used Pine for the first five years or so I used it... :)

But if you really want the mail client to run on the individual desktops
(note that with such old versions of Windows, this could be a great source
of future headaches), install Cygwin/Pine or regular PC-Pine and then try
to get mail off the Linux mail server via IMAP.

Either way, direct-on-server or IMAP, you can keep everything on the mail
server & so be pretty sure that maildir will work, if that's important --
no need to force it to work on Windows if you know it'll work on Linux...


[1] http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_1.html#SEC2


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On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Jason Rashaad Jackson wrote:

>   Our PINE users are experiencing extreme difficulties trying to use PINE to
>   access their e-mail accounts.  On occasion, the program will lock up,
>   displaying "server timeout...15 seconds" which will continue until PINE
>   asks to break the connection.  There seems to be no rescue from this
>   point, and there's nothing to do but exit the program and restart it.

When accessing mail via IMAP and a laggy network connection, I have
sometimes seen the same thing. A decent recovery option is to try to
switch to a different mail folder, which seems to re-establish your
connection to the server. It's not a great solution, but it's better
than quitting & restarting Pine from scratch...

> Server facts - Carnegie Mellon Cyrus IMAP daemon v.1.6.22
> ========
> - Logs show successful mailbox opening, no errors or further information
>   when timeouts occur

And, by way of comparison, you do get more info when timeouts don't occur?



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This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System
version 4.50. This release introduces some new functionality and
addresses some bugs found in earlier versions.

Specific information about changes can be found in the built-in release
notes ("R" off the Main Menu), or via any of:

        http://www.washington.edu/pine/

        http://www.washington.edu/pine/changes.html

        ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/


UNIX source code for the latest Pine release is available at:

        http://www.washington.edu/pine/getpine/
or
        ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz
              (MD5: 5f517297242f625de9a9ccbaf48578f0)
        ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z
              (MD5: 26b6817c64fd554efc74fb57e5164312)
        ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.bz2
              (MD5: fa2fba7fe1e2bb3b2f393830de5a8932)

We are no longer distributing binaries which don't have encryption
capabilities built in. Pre-built binaries are available for a small number
of UNIX operating environments for citizens of the U.S. or Canada via:

        http://www.washington.edu/pine/getpine/

The PC-Pine distribution is also available at the above url, or at:

        ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/pm450w32.zip
              (MD5: b0d0acb1447eafe1c2009f3ec00eb122)

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Hello,

I would like to sign my messages using GPG with PCPine, how
can I do this ?

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From: Alessandro Selli <dhatarattha@libero.it>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <pine-info@u.washington.edu>
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  I confirm this version fixes the remote DoS attack that was made public o=
n
the 7th this month, the attack that makes pine dumpe core when the local IN=
BOX
contains a message with a "From:" address like:

From: |"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\"\""@host.=
fubar

  Just tested with the executable built on a Slackware GNU/Linux 8.1, 2.4.1=
9
kernel, with:

aselli@aselli /usr/src/pine4.50$ ./build slx

which automatically included SSL support (OpenSSL 0.9.6g 9 Aug 2002).


Il giorno Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Steve Hubert cos=EC ha scritto:

|From: Steve Hubert <hubert@washington.edu>
|To: Pine Discussion Forum <pine-info@u.washington.edu>
|Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 19:04:25 -0800
|Subject: Pine 4.50 is now available
|
|This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System
|version 4.50. This release introduces some new functionality and
|addresses some bugs found in earlier versions.
|
|Specific information about changes can be found in the built-in release
|notes ("R" off the Main Menu), or via any of:
|
|        http://www.washington.edu/pine/
|
|        http://www.washington.edu/pine/changes.html
|
|        ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/
|
|
|UNIX source code for the latest Pine release is available at:
|
|        http://www.washington.edu/pine/getpine/
|or
|        ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz
|              (MD5: 5f517297242f625de9a9ccbaf48578f0)
|        ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z
|              (MD5: 26b6817c64fd554efc74fb57e5164312)
|        ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.bz2
|              (MD5: fa2fba7fe1e2bb3b2f393830de5a8932)
|
|We are no longer distributing binaries which don't have encryption
|capabilities built in. Pre-built binaries are available for a small number
|of UNIX operating environments for citizens of the U.S. or Canada via:
|
|        http://www.washington.edu/pine/getpine/
|
|The PC-Pine distribution is also available at the above url, or at:
|
|        ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/pm450w32.zip
|              (MD5: b0d0acb1447eafe1c2009f3ec00eb122)
|
|As with all Pine releases, it is important that you carefully test and
|determine for yourself that it performs suitably in your environment
|before placing Pine into production use.
|
|The Pine Development Team
|

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Bellum se ipsum alet
       La guerra nutre se stessa

Livio, Ab urbe condita, XXXIV,9



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Hello

confirmed compilation on Solaris 7 (gs5) with gcc 2.95.3
- without problems

Piotr Kasztelowicz
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Hi,

Having moved to pine for my university mail from using Yahoo and Hotmail
all my life, I found a strange thing.

Pine wraps the lines at a particular column number. The column number
can be changed but the feature cannot be removed (i guess). 

Frustrated by this initially, I used to invoke an alternative editor
(emacs) to type in any mail (emacs does not force wrapping).

But now I just use the default wrapping. 

But I am still confused as to what is the "right way" to send a mail (if
there is)?

Web-based Mail systems (yahoo, hotmail etc) and Outlook (i think) are
designed for non-wrapped mails, while pine, evolution use the wrapped
ones.

Do advise.

-Gaurang.


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> This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System
> version 4.50. This release introduces some new functionality and
> addresses some bugs found in earlier versions.

When will Pine natively support qmail-style Maildirs?

--=20
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*** Bertrand PEREZ (123Multimedia) (bertrand.perez@123multimedia.com) wrote...:

:) I would like to sign my messages using GPG with PCPine, how can I do
:) this ?

Hello Bertrand,

  You may consider using the cygwin version of Pine, instead. One of the
main advantages of Cygwin Pine over Pc-Pine is the fact that you can
execute external filters (speller, GpG, browsers, pipes, etc), which can
not be done in PC-Pine. You need to install Cygwin, which can be
downloaded from http://www.cygwin.com/, but it works very well.

  The cygwin port of Pine is included in the distribution of Pine4.50, and
can be built using the command

  ./buildcyg cyg

Notice that you will need to install the termcap and crypto libraries to
compile successfully. These libraries can also be obtained from
cygwin.com, with their setup program.

  I hope this helps,

  Salu2,

-- 
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*** Gaurang Khetan (gkhetan@usc.edu) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) Pine wraps the lines at a particular column number. The column number
:) can be changed but the feature cannot be removed (i guess).
:)
:) Frustrated by this initially, I used to invoke an alternative editor
:) (emacs) to type in any mail (emacs does not force wrapping).
:)
:) But now I just use the default wrapping.
:)
:) But I am still confused as to what is the "right way" to send a mail
:) (if there is)?

The short answer is that there is no right way to send the message, except
by the fact that lines should not be longer than 1000 characters.

There are two formats to send the message: flowed and fixed. You have seen
flowed all your life, now you are seeing fixed. In flowed format,
paragraphs end with a CRLF terminator, while in fixed format all lines of
the paragraph end with a CRLF.

It's obvious that there is a stiking contrast between them. I don't know
if you are aware of this, but the default editor of Pine, has a command
"^J", which can be used to reformat paragraphs. There was a great
improvement in Pine4.50 for this command (unfortunately appears only as a
bug fix in the release notes :(), but now it should work very well, so you
may want to give it a try.

-- 
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

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Il giorno Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Gaurang Khetan cos=EC ha scritto:

|From: Gaurang Khetan <gkhetan@usc.edu>
|To: Pine Discussion Forum <pine-info@u.washington.edu>
|Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 04:42:39 -0800
|Subject: should mail be wrapped at a column?
|
|Hi,
|
|Having moved to pine for my university mail from using Yahoo and Hotmail
|all my life, I found a strange thing.
|
|Pine wraps the lines at a particular column number. The column number
|can be changed but the feature cannot be removed (i guess).
|
|Frustrated by this initially, I used to invoke an alternative editor
|(emacs) to type in any mail (emacs does not force wrapping).
|
|But now I just use the default wrapping.
|
|But I am still confused as to what is the "right way" to send a mail (if
|there is)?
|
|Web-based Mail systems (yahoo, hotmail etc) and Outlook (i think) are
|designed for non-wrapped mails, while pine, evolution use the wrapped
|ones.
|


  From: $SOURCE_PATH/pine4.50/doc/tech-notes/config.html


composer-wrap-column
          This option specifies an aspect of Pine's Composer. This gives th=
e
          maximum width that auto-wrapped lines will have. It's also the
          maximum width of lines justified using the ^J Justify command. Th=
e
          normal default is 74. The largest allowed setting is normally 80 =
in
          order to prevent very long lines from being sent in outgoing mail=
=2E
          When the mail is actually sent, trailing spaces will be stripped =
off
          of each line.


"normally" I guess means that it is a value set at compilation time.
Limiting the number of columns in a email message is mostly a matter of
netiquette.  However, pico, pine's default editor, does accept the -w switc=
h
that, according to the man page, does the following:

      -w     Disable word wrap (thus allow editing of long lines).

  I don't know how to pass it to pico from within pine, though.  You may ha=
ve
to put a script in the PATH named "pico" that has Pine load that script
instead of the real pico, and that script will take care of running pico wi=
th
the -w switch followed by any and all the parameters pine passed the script=
=2E





  Sandro



--=20
Bellum se ipsum alet
       La guerra nutre se stessa

Livio, Ab urbe condita, XXXIV,9

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*** Alessandro Selli (dhatarattha@libero.it) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) "normally" I guess means that it is a value set at compilation time.
:) Limiting the number of columns in a email message is mostly a matter of
:) netiquette.  However, pico, pine's default editor, does accept the -w
:) switch that, according to the man page, does the following:
:)
:)       -w Disable word wrap (thus allow editing of long lines).
:)
:)   I don't know how to pass it to pico from within pine, though.

The drawback of this method is that you can not justify keeping the quote
string (it will justify as if there was no quote string). I have a patch
in my web page to add this support, though.

-- 
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

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Hello,

I installed PC-Pine 4.50 on my work machine, and configured it to open my
inbox; no problems so far.

But when I try to send a message, it says:

"message not sent... relaying denied"

This does not happen when I use PC-Pine on my home machine.

I searched the pine-info archives for "relaying denied" but couldn't find
anything.

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,
Brian

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From: James R Kirkpatrick <jimkirk@uwyo.edu>
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> I installed PC-Pine 4.50 on my work machine, and configured it to open my
> inbox; no problems so far.
> 
> But when I try to send a message, it says:
> 
> "message not sent... relaying denied"

This is not a Pine problem, but a mail server issue.  The SMTP server you
have specified is apparently not willing to accept email from you unless
it's destined for that server's domain.  For example, if you dial in to
AOL but specify UFL as your SMTP server, UFL sees you as an outsider.  If
you attempt to send email to somebody inside UFL that's OK but if you try
to send email to somebody outside UFL that's considered "bad" relaying and
is a typical trick spammers used (use somebody else's mail system to send
tens of thousands of messages).  You need to talk to UFL folks in this
case to get the issue resolved, and they may tell you "if you connect via
AOL, use AOL's server, period."

Alternatively, since you said this was your work machine (and presumably
connected to UFL's network) perhaps you have configured a non-UFL SMTP
server; same issue, other way around.


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With a couple of minor patches, Pine 4.50 compiles with Kerberos, SSL and
LDAP support on MacOS X 10.2.2. I've put an (unofficial; I work for the
UW, but not on the Pine project) installer package and source patch
online: http://staff.washington.edu/jdlarios/osx-pine-notes-3.html

(Without the patches, LDAP support can't be compiled in and the Kerberos
libraries will cause Pine to hang if you don't have a ticket before trying
to open a kerberized mailbox. Other than that, it compiles just fine out
of the box.)

--
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On (2002-11-21 15:44) Brian D Clary wrote:

:)Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 15:44:33 -0500 (EST)
:)From: Brian D Clary <bdclary@grove.ufl.edu>
:)To: Pine Discussion Forum <pine-info@u.washington.edu>
:)Subject: Relaying Denied
:)
:)Hello,
:)
:)I installed PC-Pine 4.50 on my work machine, and configured it to open my
:)inbox; no problems so far.
:)
:)But when I try to send a message, it says:
:)
:)"message not sent... relaying denied"
:)
:)This does not happen when I use PC-Pine on my home machine.
:)
:)I searched the pine-info archives for "relaying denied" but couldn't find
:)anything.

	Hello,

seems that your company is using MS Exchange for mail. and this error
message means that Exchange has been configured to deny any SMTP request
... to force people using Outlook as mail client :-(
nothing to do on your side, you need to ask the admins to allow you
to do this but I do not think they will agree ..

bad move.

regards/Bertrand

:)
:)What am I doing wrong?
:)
:)Thanks,
:)Brian
:)
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The attached e-mail has a rather unfortunate effect when displayed in my
copy of pine:  it changes the display mode so that *all* subsequent text
(even after exiting pine) is displayed with underscores.

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I am using pine 4.44 on FreeBSD 4.7.



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From: Murphy <murphy@pulstar.albedo.art.pl>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <pine-info@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Pine 4.50 - core dumped
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Hi,

It was happednd when I try to open the Pine 4.50 wit the attached mail.
The error message was:

	Problem detected: "Bad msgno 0 in mail_elt, nmsgs = 1".
	Pine Exiting.
	Abort (core dumped)

  OS: Sun Solaris 2.8
 CPU: Sparc Ultra III
Pine: NOLDAP, NOSSL

Regards,
Murphy

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From: Joel Boonstra <jboonstra@gospelcom.net>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <pine-info@u.washington.edu>
Subject: 4.50 and threading
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Hey folks,

Well, I've got my shiny new copy of pine 4.50, and I'm eager to see how
threads look.

So, I go to a folder that has a *ton* of messages that are perfect
thread fodder (in this case, all the email from the php-general email
list).  Here's what a sample of the index looks like:

  7   N 02.11.21 Alex               (3,416) Re: Php search results
  8   N 02.11.22 Adam Williams      (2,279) Re: phpUpLoad
  9   N 02.11.22 Gary Smith         (2,892) Help Porting PHP Sites from Solaris
 10   N 02.11.22 Vicky              (2,895) Re: phpUpLoad
 11   N 02.11.22 Morgan Hughes      (2,520) Re: phpUpLoad
 12   N 02.11.22 Phoebe Bright      (3,512) Re: Capturing multiple select with J
 13   N 02.11.22 Marek Kilimajer    (3,068) Re: phpUpLoad

In other words, a standard index.  I hit $H to sort by threads, and this
is what I get (different section of the index, obviously):

 16   N 02.11.22 Duncan             (2,890)   mail() problem...
 17   N 02.11.22 Marek Kilimajer    (2,773)   Re: mail() problem...
 18   N 02.11.22 Sara Keesler       (2,676)   Re: mail() problem...
 19   N 02.11.22 Duncan             (3,210)   Re: mail() problem...
 20   N 02.11.22 Uros Gruber        (2,335)   ob_output
 21   N 02.11.22 Chris Wesley       (2,648)   Re: ob_output
 22   N 02.11.22 Uros Gruber        (3,013)   Re[2]: ob_output

So it looks like the sorting-by-threads has been done, but not the
display-thread-arrows part.  Am I missing anything?  There's a big
column of space that looks like it's fodder for *some* thread stuff, but
it's not being filled with arrows or anything.

To add to the mystery, some (very few) emails do display with thread
stuff.  For instance, from my vim folder:

 57     02.11.20 Luc Hermitte       (2,646) . statusline
 58     02.11.20 Yiu Wing           (4,632)   |->
 59     02.11.21 Luc Hermitte       (3,538) . |->
 60   N 02.11.21 Yiu Wing           (3,179)   | |->
 61   N 02.11.21 Kontra, Gergely    (2,598)   |-Re: statusline + wildmode?

So some things get displayed as threads, but most of the rest of the
folder is the same as above (IOW, no thread arrows).

Am I missing something?  I'm using a stock 4.50 build (no patches) on RH
7.3 and whatever gcc comes with that.  I've got a courier-imap server
that stores all my mail.  I chose 'mutt-like' thread display in my
config settings.  I don't think I tweaked any other thread-related
settings in my config screen.

Anyone else having similar problems, or is threading working just fine
for everyone?

Joel

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On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Joel Boonstra wrote:
>Anyone else having similar problems, or is threading working just fine
>for everyone?

"Works for me".  Heh..  I wouldn't've said it if you hadn't've asked..

Anyway, I just wanted to note that I *like* the various choices of
thread style.  At first I thought it was too much, even though I'm
FOR having lots of options.  That is, the 1 space and 2 space choices
seemed silly..  (why not just have a single choice with a configurable space
variable?)

Anyway.. I went through them, thinking I would just go back to the plain
one, since I didn't like how they took up more horizontal space, then
I ran into:
            (*)  show-structure-in-from

I like that one, since putting 80 column windows side by side running
4.44 and 4.50, I could see just as much subject in 4.50 with this mode,
AND get a tiny bit more information.  (Well, maybe not really more
information, just more marking..)

The one change I would suggest, which would admittedly make the name not
correct anymore, would be to have this thread stuff show up *under*
the period that starts the thread.  (At least that's the only thing I've ever
been able to figure out the period means..)

That way, i twould give me just as much information AND I would still have
as much of the From person showing.. That is:

  N 2110 Nov 22 . Joe Schmoe        (2431) Whatever
  N 2111 Nov 22 |-Janet Schmoeowsky (2686) Re: Whatever

or whatever.. you get the idea..


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*** Murphy (murphy@pulstar.albedo.art.pl) wrote in the pine-info list on...:

:) It was happednd when I try to open the Pine 4.50 wit the attached mail.
:) The error message was:

Piotr,

I have a small patch for this in my web page. Let me know if it works for
you.

-- 
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*** Joel Boonstra (jboonstra@gospelcom.net) wrote in the pine-info list on...:

:) Well, I've got my shiny new copy of pine 4.50, and I'm eager to see how
:) threads look.
:)
:) [some text removed]
:)
:) I hit $H to sort by threads, and this is what I get (different section
:) of the index, obviously):
:)
:)  16   N 02.11.22 Duncan             (2,890)   mail() problem...
:)  17   N 02.11.22 Marek Kilimajer    (2,773)   Re: mail() problem...
:)  18   N 02.11.22 Sara Keesler       (2,676)   Re: mail() problem...
:)  19   N 02.11.22 Duncan             (3,210)   Re: mail() problem...
:)  20   N 02.11.22 Uros Gruber        (2,335)   ob_output
:)  21   N 02.11.22 Chris Wesley       (2,648)   Re: ob_output
:)  22   N 02.11.22 Uros Gruber        (3,013)   Re[2]: ob_output
:)
:) So it looks like the sorting-by-threads has been done, but not the
:) display-thread-arrows part.  Am I missing anything?

Hi Joel,

  You may not be missing anything. What is the output of pine4.44 with the
fancy thread patch when you do not enable "force-local-threading"?, and
what is the output when you enable force-local-threading? I wonder if your
server is sending all of those threads as separate threads.  In Pine4.44
(with the fancy thread patch) those threads would be displayed as loose
threads with the same parent (the first message of the bunch of loose
threads). Aggregate operations on threads would act on all of those
messages. In Pine4.50, however, loose threads are different threads, and
aggregate operations do not act on all of the loose threads.

-- 
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

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Subject: Re: Pine 4.50 is now available - Maildir support wanted
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> When will Pine natively support qmail-style Maildirs?

I think the Pine developers are sitting quite close to the UW-IMAP 
developers and the UW-IMAP people just seem to hate the Maildir-format 
because the UW-IMAP people are proud of the old mbox-format that they 
invented (not sure). In their FAQ they write 
(http://www.washington.edu/imap/IMAP-FAQs/index.html#1.31):

     "...nor are there any plans to add such support".

And more here: http://www.washington.edu/imap/IMAP-FAQs/index.html#6.9

But for my place which sometimes have ~100 Pine clientes running at the 
same time accessing their mailboxes (Maildir) over IMAP (Courier) makes 
the IMAP-server veeeeery slow which is bad... I also really would like 
to see Maildir-support in Pine because it would speed up thing _alot_.

Maybe someone have an unofficial Maildir-patch for Pine 4.50? Thanks in 
advance.

-- 
Cheers,
Lilla


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Yeah! Pine 4.50 did solve this problem! Now there is no waiting for 
"Formatting scroll text" in 20 secs. Now the folderlist shows up 
directly (within a second)!

Thank you Pine developers for fixing this! :)

/Lilla

> Maybe someone at the list is running RedHat Linux 7.2 i686 like me?
> After the kernel upgrade on the mailserver from 2.4.9-34 to 
> 2.4.18-17.7.x it
> takes about 15-20 secs (earlier about 1 sec) to list all the folders 
> in Pine
> 4.44 which accesses the mail over IMAP/SSL (courier-imap 1.5.3, openssl
> 0.9.6g). The IMAP-server runs also on my postfix 1.1.11 server and it
> accesses the mail in ~/Maildir over NFS from the
> fileserver. Every time I leave a folder in Pine it says
>      Formatting scroll text |     0%   |
> for about 15-20 secs.
>
> Anyone have an idea what is happening inside Pine 4.44 during the 20 secs
> showing "Formatting scroll text"?
>
> Best regards,
> LH
>


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Hi,

I've compiled Pine 4.50 on Linux i686 on a RedHat 7.3 system like this:

     ./build SSLDIR=/pkg/openssl/0.9.6g lnp

When saving mails to folders by pressing the 'S' and then start typing 
the beginning of the foldername one in Pine 4.44 could press the tab-key 
to complete to foldername.

This has stopped working with Pine 4.50, anyone got any ideas why? Thanks.

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Lilla

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Subject: Pine 4.50 build problems on RedHat Linux 7.2
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Hi,

Building Pine 4.50 on RedHat Linux 7.3 and 7.1 works for me. But when 
trying to build it on RedHat Linux 7.2 it doesn't work, anyone got an 
idea what may be wrong? The output from

     ./build SSLDIR=/pkg-local/openssl/0.9.6g DEBUG=-O lnp

looks like this when using gcc 3.2:

make args are CC=cc  'SSLDIR=/pkg-local/openssl/0.9.6g' 'DEBUG=-O' lnp


   Directory /pkg-local/openssl/0.9.6g/certs is missing

Including SSL functionality
Making c-client library, imapd, and ipopd
eval make CC=cc SSLDIR=/pkg-local/openssl/0.9.6g DEBUG=-O SSLTYPE=nopwd 
SPECIALS=SSLDIR=/pkg-local/openssl/0.9.6g lnp
make sslnopwd
make[1]: Entering directory `/nfs/build/ior/pine-4.50/imap'
make[1]: `sslnopwd' is up to date.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/nfs/build/ior/pine-4.50/imap'
Applying an process to sources...
tools/an "ln -s" src/c-client c-client
tools/an "ln -s" src/ansilib c-client
tools/an "ln -s" src/charset c-client
tools/an "ln -s" src/osdep/unix c-client
tools/an "ln -s" src/mtest mtest
tools/an "ln -s" src/ipopd ipopd
tools/an "ln -s" src/imapd imapd
tools/an "ln -s" src/mailutil mailutil
tools/an "ln -s" src/mlock mlock
tools/an "ln -s" src/dmail dmail
tools/an "ln -s" src/tmail tmail
ln -s tools/an .
make build EXTRACFLAGS='' EXTRALDFLAGS='' EXTRADRIVERS='mbox' 
EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS='' PASSWDTYPE=std SSLTYPE=nopwd EXTRASPECIALS='' 
BUILDTYPE=lnp
make[1]: Entering directory `/nfs/build/ior/pine-4.50/imap'
Building c-client for lnp...
echo `cat SPECIALS`  > c-client/SPECIALS
cd c-client;make lnp EXTRACFLAGS=''\
  EXTRALDFLAGS=''\
  EXTRADRIVERS='mbox'\
  EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS=''\
  PASSWDTYPE=std SSLTYPE=nopwd\
  SSLDIR=/pkg-local/openssl/0.9.6g
make[2]: Entering directory `/nfs/build/ior/pine-4.50/imap/c-client'
make build EXTRACFLAGS='' EXTRALDFLAGS='' EXTRADRIVERS='mbox' 
EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS='' PASSWDTYPE=std SSLTYPE=nopwd `cat SPECIALS` OS=lnx \
  SIGTYPE=psx CHECKPW=pam CRXTYPE=nfs \
  SPOOLDIR=/var/spool \
  ACTIVEFILE=/var/lib/news/active \
  RSHPATH=/usr/bin/rsh \
  BASECFLAGS="-g -fno-omit-frame-pointer -O6" \
  BASELDFLAGS="-lpam -ldl"
make[3]: Entering directory `/nfs/build/ior/pine-4.50/imap/c-client'
sh -c 'rm -rf auths.c crexcl.c nfstest.c linkage.[ch] siglocal.c 
osdep*.[ch] *.o ARCHIVE *FLAGS *TYPE c-client.a || true'
Once-only environment setup...
echo cc > CCTYPE
echo -g -fno-omit-frame-pointer -O6 '' > CFLAGS
echo -DCREATEPROTO=unixproto -DEMPTYPROTO=unixproto \
  -DMAILSPOOL=\"/var/spool/mail\" \
  -DANONYMOUSHOME=\"/var/spool/mail/anonymous\" \
  -DACTIVEFILE=\"/var/lib/news/active\" -DNEWSSPOOL=\"/var/spool/news\" \
  -DRSHPATH=\"/usr/bin/rsh\" -DLOCKPGM=\"/etc/mlock\" > OSCFLAGS
echo -lpam -ldl  > LDFLAGS
echo "ar rc c-client.a osdep.o mail.o misc.o newsrc.o smanager.o utf8.o 
siglocal.o dummy.o pseudo.o netmsg.o flstring.o fdstring.o rfc822.o 
nntp.o smtp.o imap4r1.o pop3.o unix.o mbox.o mbx.o mmdf.o tenex.o mtx.o 
news.o phile.o mh.o mx.o;ranlib c-client.a" > ARCHIVE
echo lnx > OSTYPE
./drivers mbox imap nntp pop3 mh mx mbx tenex mtx mmdf unix news phile dummy
./mkauths  md5 pla log
make[4]: Entering directory `/nfs/build/ior/pine-4.50/imap/c-client'
echo -DMD5ENABLE=\"/etc/cram-md5.pwd\" >> OSCFLAGS
make[4]: Leaving directory `/nfs/build/ior/pine-4.50/imap/c-client'
ln -s os_lnx.h osdep.h
ln -s os_lnx.c osdepbas.c
ln -s log_std.c osdeplog.c
ln -s sig_psx.c siglocal.c
ln -s crx_nfs.c crexcl.c
sh -c '(test -f /usr/include/sys/statvfs.h -a lnx != sc5 -a lnx != sco) 
&& ln -s nfstnew.c nfstest.c || ln -s nfstold.c nfstest.c'
Standard password authentication
ln -s ckp_pam.c osdepckp.c
Building with SSL
ln -s ssl_unix.c osdepssl.c
echo -I/pkg-local/openssl/0.9.6g/include 
-I/pkg-local/openssl/0.9.6g/include/openssl 
-DSSL_CERT_DIRECTORY=\"/pkg-local/openssl/0.9.6g/certs\" >> OSCFLAGS
echo "  ssl_onceonlyinit ();" >> linkage.c
echo -L/pkg-local/openssl/0.9.6g/lib -lssl -lcrypto  >> LDFLAGS
Building with SSL and plaintext passwords disabled unless SSL/TLS
echo "  mail_parameters (NIL,SET_DISABLEPLAINTEXT,(void *) 2);" >> linkage.c
cat osdepbas.c osdepckp.c osdeplog.c osdepssl.c > osdep.c
Building OS-dependent module
If you get No such file error messages for files x509.h, ssl.h,
pem.h, buffer.h, bio.h, and crypto.h, that means that OpenSSL
is not installed on your system. Either install OpenSSL first
or build with command: make lnx SSLTYPE=none
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` `cat OSCFLAGS` -c osdep.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mail.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` misc.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` newsrc.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` smanager.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` utf8.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` siglocal.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` dummy.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` pseudo.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` netmsg.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` flstring.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` fdstring.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` rfc822.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` nntp.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` smtp.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` imap4r1.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` pop3.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` unix.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mbox.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mbx.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mmdf.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` tenex.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mtx.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` news.c
news.c: In function `news_open':
news.c:309: warning: passing arg 3 of `scandir' from incompatible 
pointer type
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` phile.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mh.c
mh.c: In function `mh_ping':
mh.c:638: warning: passing arg 3 of `scandir' from incompatible pointer type
mh.c: In function `mh_append':
mh.c:895: warning: passing arg 3 of `scandir' from incompatible pointer type
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mx.c
mx.c: In function `mx_ping':
mx.c:592: warning: passing arg 3 of `scandir' from incompatible pointer type
sh -c 'rm -rf c-client.a || true'
ar rc c-client.a osdep.o mail.o misc.o newsrc.o smanager.o utf8.o 
siglocal.o dummy.o pseudo.o netmsg.o flstring.o fdstring.o rfc822.o 
nntp.o smtp.o imap4r1.o pop3.o unix.o mbox.o mbx.o mmdf.o tenex.o mtx.o 
news.o phile.o mh.o mx.o;ranlib c-client.a
make[3]: Leaving directory `/nfs/build/ior/pine-4.50/imap/c-client'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/nfs/build/ior/pine-4.50/imap/c-client'
echo lnp > OSTYPE
touch rebuild
sh -c 'rm -rf rebuild || true'
Building bundled tools...
cd mtest;make
make[2]: Entering directory `/nfs/build/ior/pine-4.50/imap/mtest'
cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS`   -c -o mtest.o mtest.c
cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o mtest mtest.o 
../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS`
/usr/bin/ld: Dwarf Error: Invalid or unhandled FORM value: 14.
/usr/bin/ld: Dwarf Error: Invalid or unhandled FORM value: 14.
/usr/bin/ld: Dwarf Error: Invalid or unhandled FORM value: 14.
../c-client/c-client.a(osdep.o): In function `ssl_server_init':
:287: the use of `tmpnam' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp'
/usr/bin/ld: Dwarf Error: Invalid or unhandled FORM value: 14.
/usr/bin/ld: Dwarf Error: Invalid or unhandled FORM value: 14.
/usr/bin/ld: Dwarf Error: Invalid or unhandled FORM value: 14.
mtest.o: In function `smtptest':
:697: the `gets' function is dangerous and should not be used.
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [mtest] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/nfs/build/ior/pine-4.50/imap/mtest'
make[1]: *** [bundled] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/nfs/build/ior/pine-4.50/imap'
make: *** [lnp] Error 2
+---------------------------------------------+
| Problems building c-client                  |
|                                             |
| Please check the output above for a         |
| possible explanation for this failure       |
+---------------------------------------------+

The first part is exactly the same for the RedHat 7.3 successful build, 
but the lines with "/usr/bin/ld: Dwarf Error: Invalid or unhandled FORM 
value: 14." are not in the RedHat 7.3 successful build.

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Lilla

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Hi, all,

I am currently doing a final year project writing a trust-based email filter 
and I picked pine as the platform mail client. Now what I want to do is just 
put in a mail filter layer into pine. Could anyone give me some advice on 
whether pine is good for this purpose? How does pine support such 
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that pine provides?

Also I heard pine is no longer GPL?

Many thanks,

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On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

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Dear All,

Pine  is an excellent  piece of  software. But  I'm wondering  why the
license is  not compatible with  the GNU General Public  License. This
will  solve  the recurring  issue  of  distribution  pine with  Debian
GNU/Linux, this can increase the user base. 

Is  there an  excellent  summary  of situation  by  the University  of
Washington ?  Why the license is not a classical Free Software License
(as stated by the 4 freedoms) ? Is it an historical reason ? 

Thanks a lot for any feedback. 

adulau

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> I think the Pine developers are sitting quite close to the UW-IMAP
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On Sun, 24 Nov 2002, Wei Wang wrote:

>I am currently doing a final year project writing a trust-based email filter 
>and I picked pine as the platform mail client. Now what I want to do is just 
>put in a mail filter layer into pine. Could anyone give me some advice on 
>whether pine is good for this purpose? How does pine support such 
>extension/development? Does it have an API? What is the extension mechanism 
>that pine provides?

Pine already has a mail filter, and has for quite some time now.

>Also I heard pine is no longer GPL?

Pine was _never_ GPL.  Pine's license is not open source 
compatible.  The source is available, and you can modify it, but 
it is not GPL compatible and you can not mix it with GPL source 
code.

Be sure to read the pine license very closely before venturing on 
any project to modify it.

HTH

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Hi all.

Just installed Pine 4.50.  Love the threading support - just one question
re. sorting though.  I usually sort in "Arrival" order so that new mail
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On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Mike A. Harris wrote:

> On Sun, 24 Nov 2002, Wei Wang wrote:
> 
> >I am currently doing a final year project writing a trust-based email filter 
> >and I picked pine as the platform mail client. Now what I want to do is just 
> >put in a mail filter layer into pine. Could anyone give me some advice on 
> >whether pine is good for this purpose? How does pine support such 
> >extension/development? Does it have an API? What is the extension mechanism 
> >that pine provides?
> 
> Pine already has a mail filter, and has for quite some time now.
> 
> >Also I heard pine is no longer GPL?
> 
> Pine was _never_ GPL.  Pine's license is not open source 
> compatible.  The source is available, and you can modify it, but 
> it is not GPL compatible and you can not mix it with GPL source 
> code.
> 
> Be sure to read the pine license very closely before venturing on 
> any project to modify it.

  Yes, is there a historical  reason regarding the licensing of pine ?

  We should  try to  promote the University  of Washington  to release
  pine  under  a  license  compatible  with  the  GNU  General  Public
  License. 

  adulau

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On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Alexandre Dulaunoy wrote:
>  We should  try to  promote the University  of Washington  to release
>  pine  under  a  license  compatible  with  the  GNU  General  Public
>  License.

Umm, they have every right to release it under whatever license they want!

It wouldn't surprise me if the 'viral' nature of the GPL is the reason they
didn't.. and/or they wanted the ability to sell it or components of it.


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From: Rick Lewis <ricklew@shellworld.net>
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When trying to thread messages in Pine 4.50, I get an error and Pine
aborts.
The error is: "Bad msgno 0 in mail_elt."
Please understand that I'm on a shell provider, I did not compile Pine
4.50, thus if it's a problem there, I can't resolve it unless I build my
own.
But the question is: how does one work around this?
--Rick

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From: Eduardo Chappa <chappa@math.washington.edu>
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*** Rick Lewis (ricklew@shellworld.net) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) When trying to thread messages in Pine 4.50, I get an error and Pine
:) aborts.
:) The error is: "Bad msgno 0 in mail_elt."
:) Please understand that I'm on a shell provider, I did not compile Pine
:) 4.50, thus if it's a problem there, I can't resolve it unless I build my
:) own.
:) But the question is: how does one work around this?

There was a problem reported a few days ago with the same problem message
when it crashed. This does not mean it's the same cause, though. Do you
have a sample message that causes the problem?. If the problem is
threading, then the work around is to sort your folders in other way (say
by arrival). You may need to manually edit your .pinerc or start Pine with
the "-f" option to do so, if the problem is in your INBOX.

If the problem is the same as the one reported a few days ago, there's a
patch in my web page, which your provider should install.  It's the third
patch in the list of new patches.

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On 25 Nov 2002 Alexandre Dulaunoy (adulau@foo.be) wrote:
>
> Pine  is an excellent  piece of  software. But  I'm wondering  why the
> license is  not compatible with  the GNU General Public  License. This
> will  solve  the recurring  issue  of  distribution  pine with  Debian
> GNU/Linux, this can increase the user base.
>
> Is  there an  excellent  summary  of situation  by  the University  of
> Washington ?  Why the license is not a classical Free Software License
> (as stated by the 4 freedoms) ? Is it an historical reason ?


This has been discussed a lot over the years and I have a section
in my main Pine page about it here:

 <http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/#freedom>

This includes links to some of the discussions and articles about
this issue. I can understand not wanting to release it under GPL,
but I often wonder why they don't release it under the same
"fork-free" license that they use for the UW IMAP server.

Hope the link above is helpful,
Nancy

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On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Nancy McGough wrote:

> On 25 Nov 2002 Alexandre Dulaunoy (adulau@foo.be) wrote:
> >
> > Pine  is an excellent  piece of  software. But  I'm wondering  why the
> > license is  not compatible with  the GNU General Public  License. This
> > will  solve  the recurring  issue  of  distribution  pine with  Debian
> > GNU/Linux, this can increase the user base.
> >
> > Is  there an  excellent  summary  of situation  by  the University  of
> > Washington ?  Why the license is not a classical Free Software License
> > (as stated by the 4 freedoms) ? Is it an historical reason ?
> 
> 
> This has been discussed a lot over the years and I have a section
> in my main Pine page about it here:
> 
>  <http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/#freedom>
> 
> This includes links to some of the discussions and articles about
> this issue. I can understand not wanting to release it under GPL,
> but I often wonder why they don't release it under the same
> "fork-free" license that they use for the UW IMAP server.

Yes, but I don't know if  the fork-free license is compatible with the
GNU  GPL.   Being  compatible  (like  the   berkeley  License  without
advertising  and  MIT-X ...)  is  a  great  advantage to  solve  legal
difficulties with patches, addons and custom version. 

Do you know if the fork-free license is compatible with the GNU GPL ? 

Thanks a lot for your feedback. 

adulau

PS : If the fork-free license  is compatible with the GNU GPL, why the
UW  didn't use  it ?  I  couldn't find  a historical  reason (maybe  a
specific funding for the UW).  Is there any information about that (an
url) ? 


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I thought one of the pine developers said that pine 4.50 would fix a problem
I am having.  If it does, I can't figure out which pref I have to enable.

When I get a spam message and want to complain (definitely more often
for my work mail address), I want to reply with full headers and the
source of the html message to show the URLs and such to show why I'm
complaining to a certain site..  (i.e. I look up whoever runs the site or
ip addresses with bwwhois (www.bw.org) and complain to those addresses.. yes,
it sometimes does help..)

Anyway, previously I'd have to copy/paste the html (or at least a section
of it) into a reply..

I still do, but someone had said 4.50 would have an option to do what I want.
Basically, I want to be able to reply with the un-rendered text, especially
when I'm viewing in full header mode (I see the un-rendered text that way),
it just doesn't reply with the un-rendered text.

What am I missing?

thanks.

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On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Matt Ackeret wrote:

> I thought one of the pine developers said that pine 4.50 would fix a problem
> I am having.  If it does, I can't figure out which pref I have to enable.
>
> When I get a spam message and want to complain (definitely more often
> for my work mail address), I want to reply with full headers and the
> source of the html message to show the URLs and such to show why I'm
> complaining to a certain site..  (i.e. I look up whoever runs the site
> or ip addresses with bwwhois (www.bw.org) and complain to those
> addresses.. yes, it sometimes does help..)

I've been doing exactly this since at least 4.44. The easiest way to do
this, as far as I have seen, is to forward the message, not reply to it.

  * hit H to expose headers
  * hit F to forward
  * when prompted, agree to "forward as an attachment"
  * compose message, with whatever header text you'd like

Depending on the recipient's mail client, this may show up as one long,
funny looking email, or as a multipart mime digest, an attachment, etc.

Fun variation, for sending say a day's worth of spam to Spamcop.net:

  * flag spam message[s] with the ':' colon key
  * type AF to 'Apply the act of Forwarding' all messages
  * when prompted, agree to "forward as a MIME digest"
  * compose message, with whatever header text you'd like

This is the same idea as above, but allows you to send an arbitrarly big
batch of messages to the recipient. The same caveats apply regarding the
mail client[s] on the other end & how they handle multipart mime messages.

This isn't the tactic you're trying to use, but it sounds to me like it'll
get the job done.



-- 
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On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Chris Devers wrote:

> I've been doing exactly this since at least 4.44. The easiest way to do
> this, as far as I have seen, is to forward the message, not reply to it.
>
>   * hit H to expose headers
>   * hit F to forward
>   * when prompted, agree to "forward as an attachment"
>   * compose message, with whatever header text you'd like

Why "as an attachment"? I just say "n" here and it works as a "flat" mail.

	-Kenny

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On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Matt Ackeret wrote:

>
> I thought one of the pine developers said that pine 4.50 would fix a problem
> I am having.  If it does, I can't figure out which pref I have to enable.
>
> When I get a spam message and want to complain (definitely more often
> for my work mail address), I want to reply with full headers and the
> source of the html message to show the URLs and such to show why I'm
> complaining to a certain site..  (i.e. I look up whoever runs the site or
> ip addresses with bwwhois (www.bw.org) and complain to those addresses.. yes,
> it sometimes does help..)

The feature is "enable-full-headers-and-text".   It should come in quite
handy for what you're trying to do.

Jeff


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On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Kenneth Crudup wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Chris Devers wrote:
>
> > I've been doing exactly this since at least 4.44. The easiest way to do
> > this, as far as I have seen, is to forward the message, not reply to it.
> >
> >   * hit H to expose headers
> >   * hit F to forward
> >   * when prompted, agree to "forward as an attachment"
> >   * compose message, with whatever header text you'd like
>
> Why "as an attachment"? I just say "n" here and it works as a "flat" mail.

Force of habit I guess :)

Part of it is that, for me, an attachment seems a little more "pristine".
It's easy to tamper with the content of what you're forwarding, but when
sent as an attachment it's just a bit harder to do that, and I'm assuming
that if the person on the other end has thought the same way then maybe
they'll trust a little more that messages forwarded as attachments are
being sent as they were originally delivered to me.

Or something like that. Like I say, the main thing is force of habit :)


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On 27 Nov 2002 Alexandre Dulaunoy (adulau@foo.be) wrote:
> >
> > This has been discussed a lot over the years and I have a section
> > in my main Pine page about it here:
> >
> >  <http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/#freedom>
> >
> > This includes links to some of the discussions and articles about
> > this issue. I can understand not wanting to release it under GPL,
> > but I often wonder why they don't release it under the same
> > "fork-free" license that they use for the UW IMAP server.
>
> Yes, but I don't know if  the fork-free license is compatible with the
> GNU  GPL.   Being  compatible  (like  the   berkeley  License  without
> advertising  and  MIT-X ...)  is  a  great  advantage to  solve  legal
> difficulties with patches, addons and custom version.
>
> Do you know if the fork-free license is compatible with the GNU GPL ?


If you read what I wrote above and your read all the links on my
Pine page about this and you read the fork-free licensce, which
is here

 <http://www.washington.edu/imap/legal.html>

you'll see that No, it is not compatible with GPL.

Nancy

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From: Murphy <murphy@pulstar.albedo.art.pl>
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Hi,

When you save this attachment as a file then open it through "G" (goto)
command, you will see that in the threads sorting there is nothing
except the message number. When you change the sorting to something
different than threads, then everything looks fine. I think it is a bug.

Regards,
Piotr

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Il giorno Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Murphy cos=EC ha scritto:

|From: Murphy <murphy@pulstar.albedo.art.pl>
|To: Pine Discussion Forum <pine-info@u.washington.edu>
|Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:44:12 +0100
|Subject: Pine 4.50 (patched) and thread index - invisible subject
|
|Hi,
|
|When you save this attachment as a file then open it through "G" (goto)
|command, you will see that in the threads sorting there is nothing
|except the message number. When you change the sorting to something
|different than threads, then everything looks fine. I think it is a bug.
|

  Mine aborts, when I open that attachment:

Problem detected: "Bad msgno 0 in mail_elt, nmsgs =3D 1".
Pine Exiting.
Aborted
Thu, 28 Nov 2002  14:29:23  Exit status: 134 Jobs: 0 pts: 0

  However, when I inspect the attachment, I see:

aselli@aselli ~$ head zzz
>From piotr  Thu Nov 28 13:30:30 2002
Received: from free.polbox.pl [212.244.200.10]
        by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.9.0)
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(MET)
From: marcin@prospero.pl
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To: murph@free.polbox.pl
Subject: Prospero - aplikacja do zarzadzania sprzedaza przez Internet [REKL=
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  The first four lines in the attachment are not a legal mailbox content.  =
If
I remove them, I can see the attachment correctly.
  Still, I think Pine should behave somewhat better when faced with an ille=
gal
mailbox contents ;-)





  Sandro



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*** Alessandro Selli (dhatarattha@libero.it) wrote in the pine-info list to=
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:) Il giorno Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Murphy cos=EC ha scritto:
:)
:) |When you save this attachment as a file then open it through "G"
:) |(goto) command, you will see that in the threads sorting there is
:) |nothing except the message number. When you change the sorting to
:) |something different than threads, then everything looks fine. I think
:) |it is a bug.
:) |
:)
:)   Mine aborts, when I open that attachment:
:)
:) Problem detected: "Bad msgno 0 in mail_elt, nmsgs =3D 1".
:) Pine Exiting.
:) Aborted
:) Thu, 28 Nov 2002  14:29:23  Exit status: 134 Jobs: 0 pts: 0

That's aborts for the same reason that Murphy indicated the first time he
posted about Pine crashing,and it's solved by the patch in my web page. I
however did not have any trouble opening the folder. It looked ok to me.
Could it be something that has to do with Murphy's character-set variable?

--=20
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

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On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

>Could it be something that has to do with Murphy's character-set variable?

There is no difference if I unset the character set. Maybe the other
option cause such displaying behaviour?

Regards,
Murphy

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*** Murphy (murphy@pulstar.albedo.art.pl) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Eduardo Chappa wrote:
:)
:) >Could it be something that has to do with Murphy's character-set variable?
:)
:) There is no difference if I unset the character set. Maybe the other
:) option cause such displaying behaviour?

Ok, I found the reason, there's no date in that message and that causes
Pine to incorrectly write the screen. I will have a patch out in a few
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Hello,

I have some local folders containing mil on my PC (using PCPine) and I
would like to export them on my mail server (IMAP) in order to be able
to see the mails via outlook or some othe mail tool.

how can I do that ?

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just to add something: in fact, is it possible to import
PCPines's mail folders within a tool like outlook ?

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This is my first time using pine, It is fast I hope I'll get use to it.

I check on my header after I sent it, it showed 

Sender: my_linuxbox_username@my.domain.name.com

How can I remove it so no body is able to see my computer name.


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Il giorno Fri, 29 Nov 2002, David Sudjiman cos=EC ha scritto:

|From: David Sudjiman <davidsudjiman@yahoo.com>
|To: Pine Discussion Forum <pine-info@u.washington.edu>
|Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 21:11:22 +0700
|Subject: How to remove Sender: username@domain.name
|
|This is my first time using pine, It is fast I hope I'll get use to it.
|
|I check on my header after I sent it, it showed
|
|Sender: my_linuxbox_username@my.domain.name.com
|
|How can I remove it so no body is able to see my computer name.
|

  In order to change the @domain parto of the address: <m>, <s>, <c> and th=
en:

user-domain                   =3D mydomain.com

  Then, in order to completely customise the "From:" header:

customized-hdrs               =3D From: My Name <my.address@my.domain>


  This used to be present in my ~/.pinerc, but it's no longer needed in Pin=
e
4.50:

feature-list=3Dallow-changing-from,
[...]

  You should be able to edit the "From:" header when composing a message, i=
f
it's not present in the standard set of shown headers, just hit <Ctrl>+<R>.





  Sandro



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On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, David Sudjiman wrote:

> I check on my header after I sent it, it showed
>
> Sender: my_linuxbox_username@my.domain.name.com
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> How can I remove it so no body is able to see my computer name.

Roger Marquis submitted a patch to do just this. I believe the patch
works for Pine 4.44. You might want to test it on 4.50, or look at the
modifications it makes, and do them yourself.

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=adrapr$f7n$1@news.mainstreet.net

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Eduardo,
That was the reason for my threading-abort problem, too, a message with no
date.
It's great that you make patches available, but this is common enough that
it should be addressed with a release, I'd think.
--Rick


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Hello, Bertrand, 

Am 12:37 2002-11-29 +0100 hat Bertrand PEREZ geschrieben:
>
>just to add something: in fact, is it possible to import
>PCPines's mail folders within a tool like outlook ?

Are you dreaming ??? 
MS use only proprietary formats and you can't. 

But I think, there is a possibility, if you FORWARD or 
REDIRECT all Mails from pine to another account on the 
IMAP server. 

Michelle


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On Nov 30, 2002, 02:48 (+0200) Michelle Konzack <linux.mailinglists@freenet=
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> >just to add something: in fact, is it possible to import
> >PCPines's mail folders within a tool like outlook ?
>
> Are you dreaming ???
> MS use only proprietary formats and you can't.
>
> But I think, there is a possibility, if you FORWARD or
> REDIRECT all Mails from pine to another account on the
> IMAP server.

It is better to connect to the same IMAP server with pine first and move
all mail from each local mailbox to the equivalent on the server.


Mats

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Last week, our tech services staff updated our Pine to 4.44.  We use a
pop3 mail system.

Since then, whenever I open my Pine mail and then go to Netscape (4.7 and
7.0), I receive a message that says that there are no "new" messages on
the server.  But they are on the server--Netscape thinks that the messages 
are not "new" since I opened Pine first.

If I open Netscape first, then the messages will show up on Pine.  In 
Netscape preferences, I've checked to leave the mail on the server.

Is this something that I can fix on my end of Pine, or perhaps is there a
script error on our administrative end?  We are stumped.  Do you have any
suggestions?

Thank you,

Mona Kerby
Graduate Studies
McDaniel College
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