From MAILER-DAEMON Fri May 22 16:45:19 1998 Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 16:45:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Mail System Internal Data Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA X-IMAP: 0895619513 0000000670 Status: RO This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created with the data reset to initial values. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 01:30:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07999; Thu, 1 Feb 96 01:30:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20507; Thu, 1 Feb 96 01:12:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20493; Thu, 1 Feb 96 01:11:54 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:10:18 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA01372; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:11:34 GMT Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:11:33 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: John Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine Question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1 News reading, including "catching up", is explained in Pine's built-in help. Type "?" at Pine's Main Menu then skip down to the section on reading News (hint: use the "W" command to search for a string). Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, John wrote: > is there any way to block delete messagews in newsgroups > (similiar to the catchup function of tin> > I pine is very convient except when you do not want to read 2000 messages > in a new newsgroup > > any help would be appreciated > john > jwinte2@gl.umbc > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 05:13:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13036; Thu, 1 Feb 96 05:13:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03491; Thu, 1 Feb 96 04:57:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mhs.swancoll.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03482; Thu, 1 Feb 96 04:57:22 -0800 Received: from tyc2.swancoll.ac.uk (tyc2 [194.81.160.15]) by mhs.swancoll.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA05049 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 12:58:56 GMT Received: from TYC2/SpoolDir by tyc2.swancoll.ac.uk (Mercury 1.21); 1 Feb 96 12:57:35 +1100 Received: from SpoolDir by TYC2 (Mercury 1.21); 1 Feb 96 12:57:21 +1100 From: "Mike Dunnage" Organization: Swansea College To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 12:57:19 GMT0BST Subject: Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <529B1FE3D8F@tyc2.swancoll.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2 help From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 06:20:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14480; Thu, 1 Feb 96 06:20:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06471; Thu, 1 Feb 96 06:05:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06463; Thu, 1 Feb 96 06:05:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0thzZp-00038RC; Thu, 1 Feb 96 06:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: CArlos_P-P Subject: Re: Including a list in Bcc: field? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:23:05 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------------------55132928916325 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Lea, contrary to the FCC on other mailers, pine use the File Carbon Copy to specify the folder where a copy of outgoing mail will be saved, instead of the dedault one generically called SentMail. Kind Regards CArlos ________________________________________________________________________ Carlos Pinto-Pereira _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ CERN LHC / IAS _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ 1211 Genève 23 - CH _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ Tel: (022) 767 43 25 _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/_ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ \ _/_/ _/ _/ \ _/ _/ e_mail - Pinto-Pereira@cern.ch Url - http://nicewww.cern.ch/~pintopc/welcome.htm "La culture c'est ce qui reste quand on a tout oublie" ________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------55132928916325 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN I have a client with a list of 300+ addresses, not in Pine addressbook format, that he wants to send a single message to. In addition, he wants the list to be in blind-carbon format so that recipients do not have to wade through screenfuls of addresses before getting to the message. The list, as it's formatted right now, would probably work fine if I could get it into the Bcc: field, but I haven't yet successfully done that... Is there a way to read a file in to a Compose header field, and if so, how do you do that? Because of the size of the list editting would probably be almost as bad as entering the addresses individually into the addressbook (this is NOT a user who could ably use something like vi or emacs). Any ideas gratefully accepted... Lea ---------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; CWIS WWW/gopher admin; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) (D)inner not ready: (A)bort (R)etry (P)izza ---------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------55132928916325-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 08:21:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17819; Thu, 1 Feb 96 08:21:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12099; Thu, 1 Feb 96 08:08:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.italtel.it by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12081; Thu, 1 Feb 96 08:07:58 -0800 Received: by iltwd02.italtel.it (5.65/sal-941215); id AA01801; Thu, 1 Feb 96 17:12:27 +0100 Received: by iltwd03.settimo.italtel.it (5.65/sal-941220); id AA24799; Thu, 1 Feb 96 17:04:49 +0100 Received: by ic8u32 (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA03397; Thu, 1 Feb 96 17:07:47 GMT Received: by ic3ud05.settimo.italtel.it (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA10915; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:06:10 +0100 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:06:09 +0100 (MET) From: Molteni Luca To: Mike Dunnage Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <529B1FE3D8F@tyc2.swancoll.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4 On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Mike Dunnage wrote: > help > What type of help ? =================================================================== | Luca Molteni E-Mail: molteni@ic8wd2.settimo.italtel.it | | Italtel SIT SpA | | Castelletto di Settimo Milanese | | Milano - Italy | =================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 08:31:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18171; Thu, 1 Feb 96 08:31:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12471; Thu, 1 Feb 96 08:15:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12461; Thu, 1 Feb 96 08:15:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ti1eP-00038TC; Thu, 1 Feb 96 08:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: automatic bouncing of mail? Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 11:58:05 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4emq66$tp4@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4emq66$tp4@portal.gmu.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5 On 31 Jan 1996, Chris Kinnahan wrote: > Is there any way I could get PINE to automatically bounce any mail I > recieve to a nickname\alias? This would basically make it a cheap List > server. No. Pine by itself will not do this for you. You have to use some other software which processes mail _before_ Pine gets hold of it. On Unix systems, procmail is commonly used (although it is not totally simple in all matters for neophytes). Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 08:35:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18297; Thu, 1 Feb 96 08:35:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09454; Thu, 1 Feb 96 08:15:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09448; Thu, 1 Feb 96 08:15:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ti1eO-00038RC; Thu, 1 Feb 96 08:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: RMB Subject: CTRL-SPACE: any alternative? Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 22:26:35 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6 In pico, Ctrl-Space advances through text word-by-word, which is something _very_ convenient. However, when logged into my systems via modem, using any number of communications packages (procomm plus, win95's hyperterm, wincomm pro, commworks, etc..) Ctrl-Space doesn't seem to be possible (I don't think the comm software was designed with "ctrl-space" in mind) Can pine be configured, or even recompiled, so that some other keystroke is used in place of Ctrl-Space? I think that would be easier than trying to get the comm software patched and/or configured for ctrl-space, especially since this may not be a possibility for some packages. TIA, -Bob Byers Harvard School of Public Health BTW - MS Kermit (v3.13, for DOS) is the =only= serial communication package I've found that sends a Ctrl-Space that can be interpretted by pico. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 08:40:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18593; Thu, 1 Feb 96 08:40:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12629; Thu, 1 Feb 96 08:19:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from broncho.ucok.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12621; Thu, 1 Feb 96 08:18:58 -0800 Received: by broncho.ucok.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA24354; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:19:42 -0600 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:19:42 -0600 (CST) From: ANDREA HALEY To: PINE Cc: ANDREA HALEY Subject: INFORMATION Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7 TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: PINE HAS JUST RECENTLY SENT MY SOME HELPFUL INFORMATION ABOUT THIS PROGRAM. I WAS WONDERING IF THERE WAS ANY MORE AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO LEARN AS MUCH ABOUT THE PROGRAM AS I CAN. IF ANYONE COULD PLEASE SEND IT TO ME I WOULD BE VERY GREATFUL. THANKS, ANDREA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 11:48:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29085; Thu, 1 Feb 96 11:48:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20689; Thu, 1 Feb 96 11:41:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20683; Thu, 1 Feb 96 11:41:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ti4oR-00038RC; Thu, 1 Feb 96 11:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pegboy@gti.gti.net (hayes = tandy) Subject: Re: Editing Signature Date: 1 Feb 1996 13:20:04 -0500 Message-Id: <4er08k$jkh@gti.gti.net> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8 from your home dir, try: pico .signature :) 23 Jan 1996 22:34:17 -0800 wrote: : On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Sandra Vegas wrote: : > I know how to put my signature in pico, but now that I want to change it, : > how do I edit the signature I already have? : > =Sandi Vegas : > : The signature is a normal text file. It is the file .signature in your : HOME-directory or the file listed in setup:signature-file : Norbert : ============================================================================== : Phone: +49 731 937600 : CAD-UL GmbH Fax: +49 731 9376027 : Einstein Str. 37 BBS: +49 731 9376029 : 89077 Ulm Email: support@cadul.de : Germany sales@cadul.de : WWW: http://www.cadul.de : ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 12:29:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01477; Thu, 1 Feb 96 12:29:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22739; Thu, 1 Feb 96 12:17:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22731; Thu, 1 Feb 96 12:17:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ti5QA-00038RC; Thu, 1 Feb 96 12:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Greedy Pine? Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:53:56 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9 On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Sam Liddicott wrote: > To follow up on myself; Terry Gray tells me that pine's unix mbox driver > loads the whole mailbox into ram. Oh woe! Oh well, at least I know. > > No wonder its slow compared to elm. "Slow" is relative. If you have a lot of RAM, then Pine's mbox driver is the fastest of all. Text searches are almost instantaneous. If you don't, then an alternative format such as tenex is faster since it doesn't beat on virtual RAM, at a cost of disk traffic every time you access a message (and slow text searches). The reason why the mbox driver keeps a snapshot in virtual memory is that you can't update an mbox format file in place because messages can grow. Thus, you need a scratch copy. Either the scratch copy is on disk or it is in memory. Matters are further complicated by a requirement on several systems that the inode be preserved, so you can't write to a new file and then rename (or rather, you can on some systems but not on others, and it's not predictable which ones are "safe"). So a disk-based scratch copy would have to be copied back to the main file. Between this problem, and the fact that UW machine have adequate memory but UW internal users have disk quotas and may not be able to keep 2x their mail file, the memory scratch copy was more attractive to us. But I can understand why a person running a 50 user timesharing system with 16MB of RAM may feel otherwise. We've considered providing an alternative mbox driver that does the disk copy, but given the facts that we don't have an internal need for it (we use tenex format if memory is a concern), that most external sites these days have ample memory and/or use tenex format, and that we have plenty of other more urgent tasks to occupy us, it's somewhat low on the queue. It would not be too hard to write such an alternate driver, I think. If someone wanted it bad enough to pay me to do it in my (woefully inadequate) free time, I could probably have it in short order. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 14:24:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08378; Thu, 1 Feb 96 14:24:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29397; Thu, 1 Feb 96 14:18:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29391; Thu, 1 Feb 96 14:18:38 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02942; Thu, 1 Feb 96 14:18:12 -0800 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:18:11 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: mailing lists Cc: Pine List Subject: Re: mime encoding In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-218299324-823213091=:5727" Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 10 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-218299324-823213091=:5727 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Norbert, There are several MIME decoders available, for multiple platforms. One is the "mpack" program from CMU. I've attached a pointer to it. -teg On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, mailing lists wrote: > > Hello, > we have problems with the mime base64 encoding. Nearly all of our > customers use uudecode/uuencode an cannot decode the base64 format. > Is it possible to switch pine to uudecode/uuencode (mailcaps ??). If not > can someone tell me a Internet resource where I can get base64 decoder > for the different systems ( MS-DOS, Linux, Solaris, ... ) > > Thanks in advance, > Norbert > > ============================================================================== > Phone: +49 731 937600 > CAD-UL GmbH Fax: +49 731 9376027 > Einstein Str. 37 BBS: +49 731 9376029 > 89077 Ulm Email: support@cadul.de > Germany sales@cadul.de > WWW: http://www.cadul.de > ============================================================================== > > --0-218299324-823213091=:5727 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="mpack.ref" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: MPACK pointer RnJvbSBqZ20rQENNVS5FRFUgVGh1IERlYyAyMiAwODoxMzoyNSAxOTk0DQpE YXRlOiBUdWUsIDIwIERFQyAxOTk0IDEwOjM5OjAyIC0wNTAwDQpGcm9tOiBK b2huIEdhcmRpbmVyIE15ZXJzIDxqZ20rQENNVS5FRFU+DQpOZXdzZ3JvdXBz OiBjb21wLm1haWwubWlzYw0KU3ViamVjdDogUmU6IEhvdyB0byBjb3BlIHdp dGggYmFzZSA2NCBlbmNvZGluZw0KDQpBIG1pbmltYWxpc3QgTUlNRS1yZWFk aW5nIHByb2dyYW0sIG11bnBhY2ssIGlzIGF2YWlsYWJsZSB2aWEgYW5vbnlt b3VzDQpGVFAgdG8gZnRwLmFuZHJldy5jbXUuZWR1IGluIHRoZSBkaXJlY3Rv cnkgcHViL21wYWNrLy4gIFRoZSBwcm9ncmFtDQpyZWFkcyBNSU1FIG1lc3Nh Z2VzIGFuZCB3cml0ZXMgdGhlIGRlY29kZWQgcGFydHMgb3V0IHRvIGZpbGVz Lg0KVmVyc2lvbnMgYXJlIGF2YWlsYWJsZSBmb3IgVW5peCwgTVMtRE9TLCBN YWNpbnRvc2gsIGFuZCBBbWlnYQ0KcGxhdGZvcm1zLg0KDQpUaGUgTVMtRE9T IGJpbmFyaWVzIGFyZSBhbHNvIGF2YWlsYWJsZSBpbiB0aGUgImRlY29kZSIg ZGlyZWN0b3J5IG9uDQpTaW1UZWwgYW5kIEdhcmJvLg0KDQoNCg== --0-218299324-823213091=:5727-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 17:06:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17048; Thu, 1 Feb 96 17:06:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08232; Thu, 1 Feb 96 17:01:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08224; Thu, 1 Feb 96 17:01:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ti9sj-00038RC; Thu, 1 Feb 96 17:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "R. Ramey" Subject: How do I keep people from emailing me???? Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 15:05:15 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11 This used to be an easy solution when i used Pegasus. Now that I'm on a network, it's not. Or is it? Someone said make a filtering rule saying if from is ***.adress then delete. But , that I don't know how to do. Even better, If I was emailed by someone I'd like to be able to shutdown them emailing me (is this bouncing?) forcing the email right back in their face! According to Pegasus , this is true mail filtering or blocking...like *69. Someone tell me how in a clear set of instructions for all readers to understand. Thanks :) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 18:35:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20083; Thu, 1 Feb 96 18:35:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15488; Thu, 1 Feb 96 18:31:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from slip-1.slip.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15478; Thu, 1 Feb 96 18:31:55 -0800 Received: from [204.160.88.131] (sfsp123.slip.net [204.160.88.131]) by slip-1.slip.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA03078 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:31:39 -0800 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:31:39 -0800 X-Sender: mab@slip.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mab@slip.net (Felix Fine) Subject: pnie 3.9(1) maskefile for HP-UX 10.0?????? Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12 Can anyone help? Please tell me if I can use the .hpp makefile, designed for HP-UX 8.0, to make Pine for HP-UX 10.0.... Thanks in advance for any help! Best Regards, ************************************************ * Mitchell A. Boucher * * Computer Systems Administrator * * SAN FRANCISCO ART INSTITUTE * * phone: (415)749-4538 * * fax: (415)749-4590 * ************************************************ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 18:35:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20089; Thu, 1 Feb 96 18:35:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15516; Thu, 1 Feb 96 18:32:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from slip-1.slip.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15510; Thu, 1 Feb 96 18:32:28 -0800 Received: from [204.160.88.131] (sfsp123.slip.net [204.160.88.131]) by slip-1.slip.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA03138 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:32:15 -0800 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:32:15 -0800 X-Sender: mab@slip.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mab@slip.net (Felix Fine) (by way of mab@slip.net (Mitchell Boucher)) Subject: pnie 3.9(1) makefile for HP-UX 10.0?????? Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 13 Can anyone help? Please tell me if I can use the .hpp makefile, designed for HP-UX 8.0, to make Pine for HP-UX 10.0.... Thanks in advance for any help! Best Regards, ************************************************ * Mitchell A. Boucher * * Computer Systems Administrator * * SAN FRANCISCO ART INSTITUTE * * phone: (415)749-4538 * * fax: (415)749-4590 * ************************************************ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 18:38:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20207; Thu, 1 Feb 96 18:38:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15582; Thu, 1 Feb 96 18:34:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from slip-1.slip.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15572; Thu, 1 Feb 96 18:34:24 -0800 Received: from [204.160.88.131] (sfsp123.slip.net [204.160.88.131]) by slip-1.slip.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA03207 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:32:55 -0800 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:32:55 -0800 X-Sender: mab@slip.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mab@slip.net (Felix Fine) (by way of mab@slip.net (Mitchell Boucher)) (by way of mab@slip.net (Mitchell Boucher)) Subject: pine 3.9(1) makefile for HP-UX 10.0?????? Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 14 Can anyone help? Please tell me if I can use the .hpp makefile, designed for HP-UX 8.0, to make Pine for HP-UX 10.0.... Thanks in advance for any help! Best Regards, ************************************************ * Mitchell A. Boucher * * Computer Systems Administrator * * SAN FRANCISCO ART INSTITUTE * * phone: (415)749-4538 * * fax: (415)749-4590 * ************************************************ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 18:45:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20540; Thu, 1 Feb 96 18:45:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15944; Thu, 1 Feb 96 18:42:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15938; Thu, 1 Feb 96 18:42:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tiBN6-00038RC; Thu, 1 Feb 96 18:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bain Zailong Subject: Question Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:09:38 +0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 15 Hellow! Is PC-pine free? If so, where can I get a copy? Thanks! ########Zailong Bian######## From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 19:15:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21642; Thu, 1 Feb 96 19:15:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14343; Thu, 1 Feb 96 19:12:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14337; Thu, 1 Feb 96 19:12:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tiBti-00038RC; Thu, 1 Feb 96 19:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joachim Seifert Subject: Re: sendmail 8.7.3 reverse aliasing & pine Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 11:03:38 +0100 Message-Id: <31108FFA.6561AA8B@Physik.Uni-Muenchen.DE> References: <4ejrea$gaa@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> <4eku99$sjd@news.uni-paderborn.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 16 Hi Achim Achim Dreyer wrote: > : PS. Here is my userdb: > > : andi:mailname Andreas.Muck@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de > > : I tried also with the full address instead of "andi" but it didn't work > > Do the following in pine : > > m (goto Main menu) > s (setup) > c (config) > > -> go to personal-name and enter "Andreas.Muck" > -> go to user-domain and enter "stud.uni-karlsruhe.de" Sorry This doesn't work !!! Result is: Andreas.Muck In our case this produces an invalid domain. Has anyone a fix for it --- it seems that userdb does not work for non-local mails! Is there a way to *force* the noncanonify option in sendmail (or pine) to make it put out only local mail. Yours Joachim -- Joachim Seifert | Tuerkenstrasse 28 | University of Munich 80333 Muenchen | Theresienstrasse 37 Germany | 80333 Muenchen ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- My Home Page: http://www.ls-wess.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~seifert If you think my .sig isn't funny, wait till you meet me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 20:25:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23322; Thu, 1 Feb 96 20:25:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20516; Thu, 1 Feb 96 20:22:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20510; Thu, 1 Feb 96 20:22:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tiCww-00038RC; Thu, 1 Feb 96 20:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: uj5r@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Andreas Muck) Subject: Re: Pine3.91 & Sendmail 8.7.3 userdb Date: 2 Feb 1996 03:19:13 GMT Message-Id: <4ervrh$4hv@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> References: <4ejcqv$jn4@ns1.autonet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 17 Jerry Lynch (lynch.94@osu.edu) wrote: : ------------------------------------------------------------------- : * How do I get the user database (userdb) to work with Pine. [...] Hey, this actually works in sendmail 8.7.3 too :))) Thanks a lot! Andi -- In the beginning there was darkness, and the darkness was without form, and void. And Gates said "Let There Be Light", and there was a General Protection Fault. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 21:42:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24670; Thu, 1 Feb 96 21:42:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20274; Thu, 1 Feb 96 21:37:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20268; Thu, 1 Feb 96 21:37:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tiE9N-00038RC; Thu, 1 Feb 96 21:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pobrien@draco.harvard.edu (Patrick O'Brien) Subject: Newbie question: prefix Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 00:41:08 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 18 Greetings, How do you set the prefix for replying, (the "border-on-copy" in some other mailers)? as in >From: user@node >Subject: foo >blah, blah, blah GINGER The default of ">" must be configurable somehow, though I haven't found it. I've tried changing the .mailrc indexprefix= value to no avail. Regards, Patrick O'Brien -- Systems Administrator Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics 60 Garden Street Cambridge, MA 02138 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 22:36:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25859; Thu, 1 Feb 96 22:36:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25324; Thu, 1 Feb 96 22:21:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25318; Thu, 1 Feb 96 22:21:21 -0800 Received: from maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id XAA15077 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 23:21:17 -0700 Received: from gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.10]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id XAA10464 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 23:21:19 -0700 Received: by gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9) id XAA71966; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 23:21:18 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 23:21:17 -0700 (MST) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: Including a list in Bcc: field? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 19 Carlos, your message came through blank. Please re-send, because if you have an answer to this I really need to see it and I'm sure the list would be interested too... And while I'm at it, I haven't heard back from anyone at all yet on this (David Miller? Are you out there?) and my client hasn't forgotten about it...meanwhile, I've tried everything I can think of and done information searches and all that and still haven't come up with anything... Frustration R Us... Thanks for any help anyone can provide! Lea From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 2 01:54:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00839; Fri, 2 Feb 96 01:54:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00539; Fri, 2 Feb 96 01:48:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00531; Fri, 2 Feb 96 01:48:02 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:45:16 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA10752; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:45:30 GMT Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:45:29 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Patrick O'Brien Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Newbie question: prefix In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 20 It is not possible to change the quote character in Pine 3.91 (short of obtaining the source, changing it there and recompiling). I believe I recall one of the Pine Developers saying it would be user-configurable in Pine 3.92 though (forgive me if I'm wrong, guys!). Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 2 Feb 1996, Patrick O'Brien wrote: > Greetings, > > How do you set the prefix for replying, (the "border-on-copy" in > some other mailers)? as in > > >From: user@node > >Subject: foo > > >blah, blah, blah GINGER > > The default of ">" must be configurable somehow, though I haven't > found it. I've tried changing the .mailrc indexprefix= value > to no avail. > > Regards, > > > Patrick O'Brien > > -- > Systems Administrator > Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics > 60 Garden Street > Cambridge, MA 02138 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 2 05:41:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05845; Fri, 2 Feb 96 05:41:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09507; Fri, 2 Feb 96 05:27:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tortoise.oise.on.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09501; Fri, 2 Feb 96 05:27:48 -0800 Received: by tortoise.oise.on.ca (5.0/SMI-SVR4 (rsm951016)) id AA02438; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 08:23:57 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 08:23:57 -0500 (EST) From: William McQueen To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: FTP site for PINE for PC In-Reply-To: <4elca5$2eq@news4.digex.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 551 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 21 Could someone provide me with the ftp site for the latest version of PINE for PC programme and documentation. And perhaps a personal response from someone who uses it as a personal copy to read/reply offline. Thanks very much. Bill McQueen in Toronto .________________________________________________________. | | | wmcqueen@oise.on.ca | | "Life is a seamless robe of learning!" | |________________________________________________________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 2 09:28:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14515; Fri, 2 Feb 96 09:28:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22087; Fri, 2 Feb 96 09:01:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22079; Fri, 2 Feb 96 09:01:46 -0800 Received: from maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id KAA14420 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:01:46 -0700 Received: from gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.19]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA55272 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:01:45 -0700 Received: by gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9) id KAA77326; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:01:42 -0700 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:01:42 -0700 (MST) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Including a list in Bcc: field? (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 22 I've gotten private e-mail from a few list members since my message last night, asking me to repost my original message, so here it is... Lea >I have a client with a list of 300+ addresses, not in Pine addressbook >format, that he wants to send a single message to. In addition, he wants >the list to be in blind-carbon format so that recipients do not have to >wade through screenfuls of addresses before getting to the message. The >list, as it's formatted right now, would probably work fine if I could >get it into the Bcc: field, but I haven't yet successfully done that... >Is there a way to read a file in to a Compose header field, and if so, >how do you do that? >Because of the size of the list editting would probably be almost as bad >as entering the addresses individually into the addressbook (this is NOT >a user who could ably use something like vi or emacs). >Any ideas gratefully accepted... > >Lea ---------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; CWIS WWW/gopher admin; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) . (D)inner not ready: (A)bort (R)etry (P)izza ---------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 2 11:40:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21975; Fri, 2 Feb 96 11:40:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24777; Fri, 2 Feb 96 11:06:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.voicenet.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24765; Fri, 2 Feb 96 11:06:19 -0800 Received: from wilmington07.voicenet.com by voicenet.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06658; Fri, 2 Feb 96 14:06:09 EST From: rdevoe@voicenet.com (Raymond DeVoe) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 14:07:31 -0500 Organization: Electronic Payment Services Reply-To: rdevoe@voicenet.com Message-Id: <31126045.920048@mail.voicenet.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99c/16.141 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 23 unsubscribe -- Posted Using Agent v.99c rdevoe@voicenet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 2 21:36:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15169; Fri, 2 Feb 96 21:36:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22126; Fri, 2 Feb 96 21:23:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22120; Fri, 2 Feb 96 21:23:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tiaPS-00038RC; Fri, 2 Feb 96 21:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rasheed Baqai Subject: Header info. Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:37:13 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 24 Okay, I know that I can get the header info by allowing the H command. How about the mail sending trail (the lines above the header that show how it got transferred from server to server while being sent)? Is there a way to get it to be seen on pine? (the mail sending trail is useful for finding server addresses for talk and finger commands) Right now, the only way I can go and see this trail part is to save it to a folder, then goto something like pico or emacs and read it from there. Direct replies appreciated too. Rasheed --- R a B s a rbaqai@uci.edu h q http://www.ics.uci.edu/~rbaqai/ e a University of California, Irvine-Information & Computer Science e i d From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 2 21:43:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15328; Fri, 2 Feb 96 21:43:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26268; Fri, 2 Feb 96 21:33:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26262; Fri, 2 Feb 96 21:33:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tiaZB-00038RC; Fri, 2 Feb 96 21:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rasheed Baqai Subject: Re: Adjusting "From:" In Pine 3.91 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:46:35 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 25 Hi Edward! I did the exact same thing. My e-mail address is shorter at rbaqai@uci.edu, but my unix is at rbaqai@ea.oac.uci.edu Now a problem that I see that you are probably going to have is that your unix account name (fenstere) is different than your e-mail (ed). I think this may still be a problem. In any case, to change the user-domain to jhu.edu just enter that line in the user-domain field in the config for pine. Now, my question is, how do I get rid of an X-Sender line. I really don't need that line in the e-mail I send. --- R a B s a rbaqai@uci.edu h q http://www.ics.uci.edu/~rbaqai/ e a University of California, Irvine-Information & Computer Science e i d From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 2 23:06:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16773; Fri, 2 Feb 96 23:06:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25651; Fri, 2 Feb 96 22:59:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25645; Fri, 2 Feb 96 22:59:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tibtM-00038RC; Fri, 2 Feb 96 22:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Virtual Joe Subject: Re: Alternate .pinerc from command line Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:11:01 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 26 On Fri, 2 Feb 1996, Virtual Joe wrote: > Maybe my brain is still asleep, but is there a command line option to use > an alternate .pinerc file? Much like "pine -i". You know, that sort of > thing...Thanks for any light you can shed....and I'll keep looking > through the FAQ (when I find it again...)...laters... Well, duh!! My brain must've been asleep! As soon as I posted that message, I remembered I could do "pine -h" for help, and lo and behold, I learned my answer- typing "pine -p alt.pinerc" will give the desired results! Sorry to annoy you all with my stupid question....laters.. *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* *: Joe Ducharme jduche@creighton.edu :* *: Creighton University Omaha, NE USA 68178 :* *: < http://www.creighton.edu/~jduche/>> :* *: "Time flies like an arrow, Fruit flies like a banana." :* *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 2 23:38:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17238; Fri, 2 Feb 96 23:38:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00405; Fri, 2 Feb 96 23:24:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00399; Fri, 2 Feb 96 23:24:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ticGS-00038RC; Fri, 2 Feb 96 23:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: Re: How to convert VMS MAIL.MAI to Unix Pine ? In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <3103EC84.27BE@embl-heidelberg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:32:24 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 27 On Sat, 27 Jan 1996, Alan J. Flavell wrote: > On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Luca Ida Giovanni TOLDO (Ph.D.) wrote: > > > I am in the very urgent need of converting existing MAIL.MAI > > to Pine Unix format keeping the structure of the several folders... > > Any help on suggestions how to accomplish (automatically ) that > > is greatly acknowledged. > > You can run Yehavi's VMS PINE client and connect to a unix IMAPD > and send the folder contents over the net. I'm sorry for posting what seems to have been misleading information here. It would be good if this worked, but it looks as if it doesn't. I've just tried to follow my own description, using the VMS PINE client and trying to save to a remote folder on a unix system, e.g "S {dotted.host}mail/mail", and I find that it does not work; instead of saving to a remote folder, it actually creates a local folder called {DOTTED.HOST}MAIL/MAIL (!!!) on the VMS system. "G {dotted.host}mail/mail", on the other hand, works fine, so it's clear that Yehavi's VMS PINE is partly able to reference remote folders. I don't know just how I'd got the impression before that I had been able to make this work. Once again, apologies. I can't be sure that the converse scheme would really work, i.e running PINE client on unix and IMAPD on VAX/VMS, because I've never tried running the VMS IMAPD. I think it looks hopeful ... but I see that Yehavi himself did not suggest this as a solution, so maybe he knows of a reason why it can't work? best regards From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 01:44:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19761; Sat, 3 Feb 96 01:44:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01239; Sat, 3 Feb 96 01:39:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01232; Sat, 3 Feb 96 01:39:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tieP0-00038RC; Sat, 3 Feb 96 01:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: alexjb@hcirisc.cs.binghamton.edu (Alex J. Bernardin) Subject: Re: Filter () function? Date: 03 Feb 1996 07:24:20 GMT Message-Id: References: <4epdi0$522@newshound.csrv.uidaho.edu> In-Reply-To: love9444@harrier.csrv.uidaho.edu's message of 1 Feb 1996 03:54:40 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 28 In article <4epdi0$522@newshound.csrv.uidaho.edu> love9444@harrier.csrv.uidaho.edu (Gary Love) writes: > to work. I heard a mention about a filter() function in another message -- I am a big fan of mail pre-sorting. I have used filter for some time now. It is actually not at all connected with Pine, except that they both deal with e-mail. My understanding of filter is that it is that it is a program which may or may not be available on your system. The man page for filter explains everything that you would need to know to set up your filtering activites. It essentially consists of a special command in your .forward file, telling it to use the filter program, and then a filter-rules file which determines how your mail gets sorted. If you can get it on your system, procmail is much more robust at sorting. --AlexJB alexjb@hcirisc.cs.binghamton.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 02:05:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20049; Sat, 3 Feb 96 02:05:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05262; Sat, 3 Feb 96 01:59:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05256; Sat, 3 Feb 96 01:59:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tiekC-00038TC; Sat, 3 Feb 96 01:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fabriani@RmCisadu.let.uniroma1.it (fabriani lanfranco (sistemista) 4991-3936) Subject: HELP with pop3d Date: 2 Feb 1996 08:47:38 GMT Message-Id: <4esj3a$1k8@itaca.caspur.it> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 29 Dear Sir, I have compiled the pop3d in the distribution of pine.3.91. It runs quite well, but the program doesnt'recognize the passwords longer then 8 chars. Is it possible to change this limit? Any help it'll be welcome Please, replay to me at fabriani@rmcisadu.let.uniroma1.it too, because my nttp server loses many news. Thanks Lanfranco Fabriani -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Lanfranco Fabriani (sys.ad) C.I.S.A.D.U. fabriani@rmcisadu.let.uniroma1.it +39-6-4991.3936 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 03:28:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21294; Sat, 3 Feb 96 03:28:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02304; Sat, 3 Feb 96 03:19:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02298; Sat, 3 Feb 96 03:19:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tifw8-00038RC; Sat, 3 Feb 96 03:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: what means "cc" ?? Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 19:11:25 +0100 Message-Id: <9602021811.AA04426@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 30 In article <1996Jan30.033344.10532@pshrink.chi.il.us>, veck@pshrink.chi.il.us write: |> fcuppens@eduserv.rug.ac.be (Filip Cuppens) publicly declared: |> >What does "cc" means in the header of pine? |> |> The term comes from the early (pre-computer) days of sending letters. |> second sheet. The second copy was called a "carbon copy". |> |> Since the days of real black-finger carbon paper are long gone, "Cc:" is |> now often called "courtesy copy" instead of "carbon copy". The purpose |> is the same -- you're sending a note to an additional address as a |> courtesy. Most people still refer to it as a "carbon copy", however. Incidentally in Italian the abbreviation Cc: may also mean "copia per conoscenza" lit. "copy for [your] knowledge" that is "copy for [your] information", which also fits nicely. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 03:39:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21589; Sat, 3 Feb 96 03:39:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06271; Sat, 3 Feb 96 03:34:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06265; Sat, 3 Feb 96 03:34:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tigBM-00038TC; Sat, 3 Feb 96 03:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: matthibe@columbia.dsu.edu (Benjamin J. Matthies) Subject: How to you get address line to just show Distribution List Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 12:45:41 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 31 I am sending a list to several different people by using pines address book. Does anyone know how to get pine to just put the name of the Distribution List in the To: rather than to list all of the addresses?? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 08:34:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26878; Sat, 3 Feb 96 08:34:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05982; Sat, 3 Feb 96 08:25:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05976; Sat, 3 Feb 96 08:25:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tikjH-00038TC; Sat, 3 Feb 96 08:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccurtis@ee.fit.edu (Christopher W. Curtis) Subject: PINE Feature Request Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:34:02 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 32 Hello, I have yet another feature request for PINE. I haven't been diddling in the newsgroup much lately, but a nice feature for the next version of PINE would be a from-index search. I get a lot of mail with totally irrelevant subjects, and sometimes in a list of 100 messages, it's difficult to find the appro- priate message. I'd like to see PINE have a feature, from the folder index, where you can, say, hit 'w' for whereis, type your keyword, then maybe hit "^W" to search INSIDE messages. PINE could simply highlight ('select') the messages that apply, or perhaps flag them "I"mportant or "K"eyed or something like that. I'd also like to reiterate my request to make sure PINE has the ability to cancel messages posted to newsgroups. :) TIA, -- Christopher Curtis, Sun SysAdmin - http://www.ee.fit.edu/users/ccurtis Florida Institute of Technology - telnet bofh.engr.wisc.edu 666 Melbourne, Florida USA - Member, Team OS/2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 11:01:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00107; Sat, 3 Feb 96 11:01:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11382; Sat, 3 Feb 96 10:50:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11376; Sat, 3 Feb 96 10:50:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tin0i-00038TC; Sat, 3 Feb 96 10:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Turning ON/OFF Quoted-Printable ? Date: 3 Feb 1996 17:16:01 GMT Message-Id: <4f058h$56t@news.ysu.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 33 In a previous article, enge@nada.kth.se (Lars Engebretsen) says: >On 2 Feb 1996, Pascal A. Dupuis wrote: > >> How could I send straigh 8bits chars, with a header : >> Content-Type : Text/Plain, charset = ISO-8859-1 >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >There is a patch that does that, among other things. It is located at > > ftp://ftp.nada.kth.se/pub/i18n/mime_head/ I could only support use of this and the other patch mentioned provided you are running an 8BITMIME version of sendmail or equivalent, such as BSD Sendmail 8.7* (presently 8.7.3) or a number of other MTAs which perform properly when faced with 8-bit MIME data. Outside of the US in Europe, I am aware that many sites have been running customized sendmails for some time or have upgraded to one of the 8BITMIME-aware versions, and I have no problem with applying such a patch to Pine if you're impatient and have such a sendmail. Pine3.92, when released, will also permit you to send 8BITMIME mail messages when you configure it to speak to such an SMTP (ESMTP) server. As more sites upgrade their sendmails, this will help to make C-T-E=8BIT mail much more common. -- Barry Bouwsma, Intanet an' Netwerkin' gu-ru-type kind o' nerd Radio Praha, Cesky Rozhlas 7; Vinohradska 12; CZ-120 99 Praha 2; Czechistan This sig is five lines long. Check your newsreader configuration if you do not From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 11:45:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01069; Sat, 3 Feb 96 11:45:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11967; Sat, 3 Feb 96 11:37:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from marvin.cdf.toronto.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11961; Sat, 3 Feb 96 11:37:32 -0800 Received: from eddie by marvin.cdf.toronto.edu id <9281>; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:37:14 -0500 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:37:03 -0500 From: Ka Lam X-Sender: g5kalam@eddie To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pop3 and pine 3.91 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 34 Hello, I have an account in a ultrix system, they (admin.) installed pine 3.91 there and I want to use pine to access my mailbox in another system, IMAP doesn't work at all and POP3 successfully open the mailbox, but dump me right back to the prompt, giving me an errore message: Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". Exiting pine. But, if I go use pine3.90, this problem goes away. The only problem is, I don't have enough disk space to have my own copy of pine3.90 in my directory. Is there any work around for 3.91? -- University of Toronto g5kalam@cdf.utoronto.ca Art & Science ae197@freenet.toronto.on.ca Ka Lam Home Page: http://cdf.utoronto.ca/~g5kalam Administrator of Methodist (H.K.) Primary & College Mailing-List From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 12:04:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01461; Sat, 3 Feb 96 12:04:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12346; Sat, 3 Feb 96 11:56:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from post-ofc02.srv.cis.pitt.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12340; Sat, 3 Feb 96 11:56:23 -0800 Received: from local (root@localhost) by post-ofc02.srv.cis.pitt.edu (8.7.3/cispo-2.0.1.1) ID for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:56:21 -0500 (EST) Received: via switchmail; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:56:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from grape.cis.pitt.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:55:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from grape.cis.pitt.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:55:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.grape.cis.pitt.edu.sun4m.54 via MS.5.6.grape.cis.pitt.edu.sun4_51; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:55:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:55:36 -0500 (EST) From: Rudolph Todd Maceyko To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine 3.91 and imap 3.6.BETA Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 35 Has anyone built and used pine 3.91 with imap 3.6.BETA (instead of imap 3.5? which comes with pine 3.91)? I'm just asking to try to avoid any potential big problems which I haven't yet seen. In fact, I have succesfully built this combo, but I had to rename pine's imap.c:imap_user() (also in pine.h and send.c) to avoid a conflict with imap 3.6.BETA's imap2.c:imap_user(). They appear to server different purposes. As I said, I have successfully built on this system using ucbcc: $ uname -a SunOS grape.cis.pitt.edu 5.4 Generic_101945-36 sun4m sparc and on this one using gcc 2.7.2: $ uname -a SunOS red-viole 4.1.3_U1 1 sun4m A related question would be what patches (if any) are recommended for pine 3.91? I saw some mention of a previously posted patch a while ago, but I no longer have the post (it was from one of th pine team) and when I *did* have it, I couldn't find the referenced patch anyway. Thanks for any comments you might have, Rudy -- Rudy Maceyko Computing & Information Services University of Pittsburgh From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 13:07:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03330; Sat, 3 Feb 96 13:07:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09647; Sat, 3 Feb 96 12:57:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bud.indirect.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09627; Sat, 3 Feb 96 12:56:19 -0800 Received: from mindcrime (djm@mindcrime.indirect.com [165.247.51.5]) by bud.indirect.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA16218 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 13:56:29 -0700 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 13:51:23 -0700 (MST) From: Dan McGuirk X-Sender: djm@mindcrime To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: a few questions Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 36 hi. I just started using pine and I have a few questions: 1) I read my mail remotely using imap. my real e-mail address is mcguirk@indirect.com, but pine seems to just combine my username on the local system (djm) with the domain name I gave it (indirect.com), and so it comes up with an address that I don't want (although it works), djm@indirect.com. how do I tell it the correct address to use? 2) is there a way I can store the username and password (or at least just the username) for each imap server somewhere so I don't have to type them every time? 3) I tried postponing some messages, then I decided I didn't want to send them, so I deleted them from the postponed-msgs folder. after that, I was left with a 0-byte postponed-msgs folder, and pine would ask me every time I sent a message if I wanted to continue a postponed message. if I said yes, it figured out that there were really no postponed messages, but then it came up with an error message trying to delete the postponed-msgs folder. it wouldn't stop asking me about the postponed-msgs until I got on the imap server and deleted the postponed-msgs folder myself. is this a bug? 4) when is pine 3.92 coming out? I've heard it will have support for PGP. thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 13:59:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04235; Sat, 3 Feb 96 13:59:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10453; Sat, 3 Feb 96 13:46:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from emh1.gordon.army.mil by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10447; Sat, 3 Feb 96 13:46:47 -0800 Message-Id: <9602032146.AA10447@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 96 16:35:00 EST (2135Z) From: Lippert To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Password Help Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 37 In trying to setup/use pcpine_w. I am unable to access my mail host and mailbox. I did however request and receive 8 update nessages from *{pine.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}updates. My mail host needs a password, and I am uncertain about the pcpine setup that requests my password and provides same to mail host. I am using a PC with Windows for Workgroups 3.11 connected on a LAN. TIA G. David Lippert lippertg@emh1.gordon.army.mil  From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 14:29:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04769; Sat, 3 Feb 96 14:29:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10905; Sat, 3 Feb 96 14:21:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10899; Sat, 3 Feb 96 14:20:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tiqJ7-00038TC; Sat, 3 Feb 96 14:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Shadowfire Subject: Anonymous Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 09:20:11 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 38 Does anybody know how to configure pine so that I can be anonymous instead of my e-mail address showing in the from field? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 14:32:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04833; Sat, 3 Feb 96 14:32:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10959; Sat, 3 Feb 96 14:25:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nooksack.amath.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10953; Sat, 3 Feb 96 14:25:06 -0800 Received: by nooksack.amath.washington.edu (5.65/UW-NDC Revision: 2.21 ) id AA28932; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:25:05 -0800 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:25:05 -0800 (PST) From: Ted Stern To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Feature request for future versions Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 39 Followup-to: poster I am in a peculiar situation that may not be uncommon. My system administrator has disabled the "forward to procmail" ability of sendmail on our system and seems pretty adamant about keeping it that way. I have set up procmail to filter my incoming mail into several folders anyway, but I have to run it 'manually' with a script, instead of being able to have it run automatically via the .forward file. I also have set up an 'at' job to run the incoming-script every so often during the daytime. While this is tolerable, I realized that it might be fairly easy to modify PINE in the following way: In version 3.91, when the file $HOME/mail.txt exists, PINE looks at the system INBOX every so often and when it finds mail there, puts it into $HOME/mail.txt in Tenex format. Why couldn't PINE have an "update-folders-command=" option? In other words, if this option were non-null, PINE would check the system INBOX, then if there were mail, it would call that command. After that it would look to see if there were new mail in the incoming folders. For this to work in a way similar to the 'mail.txt' mode, though, there would have to be a local file distinct from the system INBOX; "$HOME/mail/mbox.IN", perhaps? The name would have to be hardcoded in the same way that 'mail.txt' is now so that PINE could cross check dates between the files. If one still wanted mail in Tenex format, Pine could then transfer from mail/mbox.IN to mail.txt. This might be a nicer method of running procmail (which I find works beaufully with PINE) than the standard recommended method since procmail would be run only when one is actually using pine. It should work for other mailfilters as well. Comments? Likelyhood of inclusion? =========================================> Dept. of Applied Mathematics Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 University of Washington stern@amath.washington.edu Box 352420 http://www.amath.washington.edu/~stern/ Seattle, WA 98195-2420 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 17:16:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07587; Sat, 3 Feb 96 17:16:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16307; Sat, 3 Feb 96 17:11:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16301; Sat, 3 Feb 96 17:11:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tisvi-00038TC; Sat, 3 Feb 96 17:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Lock override Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:42:42 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4eopld$12m4@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4eopld$12m4@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 40 This is not caused by the .lock files, or the /tmp PID files, but rather by the infamous rpc.statd and rpc.lockd daemons. These charming critters go to great lengths to preserve their locks over reboots, whether or not those locks are actually in use by anyone. There is a directory on /etc that holds the statd/lockd state, and you need to blow away the contents in that directory. The permanent solution is not to use NFS to access your mail, but to use IMAP instead. statd/lockd get triggered whenever NFS is in use on SVR4 based systems such as Solaris. SUN insists that statd/lockd work, but privately admits that they don't when they are stressed in even minor ways. On 31 Jan 1996, Edward A. Overton wrote: > Is there a way to invoke pine (v. 3.91) that will override all locks on > the inbox? After a reboot of the mail server, pine freezes on any change > to the inbox. I can successfully read the mail I have received, but when > I expunge or quit (and pine attempts to write my changes) the program > simply freezes up. The problem is limited to our machines running Solaris > 2.3. > > I can obviously remove the ***.lock file in the mail spool > directory, and as well can remove the pid file that is created in /tmp, > but neither will release my inbox. I looked at the web site, and found > justifications for the multiple locks, but no way to override them in one > fell swoop. > > > Thanks, > Ed > > eoverton@math.unc.edu > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 17:57:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08150; Sat, 3 Feb 96 17:57:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13358; Sat, 3 Feb 96 17:51:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13352; Sat, 3 Feb 96 17:51:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0titYn-00038TC; Sat, 3 Feb 96 17:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: "Mailbox format invalidated..." Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:39:02 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4eodvq$arg@gail.ripco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4eodvq$arg@gail.ripco.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 41 This message happens when Pine detects that some other program has modified the folder. Specifically, it determines that the folder's size has changed, and at the very beginning of the new data there does not appear to be the start of a new message. This may not necessarily be something wrong. Some mailers tend to write a newline in front of all new mail, whether or not it is needed, and Pine 3.91 would complain about seeing the newsline. This is fixed in Pine 3.92; although you can work around it now by having your system's mailer not write the extraneous newline. On 31 Jan 1996, Uncle Bob wrote: > I'm getting the message, "Mailbox format invalidated - Consult > expert" when closing a folder and going to another one. Is this related > to some of my outgoing mail not being stored in the 'sent-mail' folder? > Could anyone shed any light on these two issues? They don't always occur > at the same time. > > -- > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > Uncle Bob..............unclebob@ripco.com > > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 17:59:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08264; Sat, 3 Feb 96 17:59:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13426; Sat, 3 Feb 96 17:56:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13420; Sat, 3 Feb 96 17:56:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0titg7-00038UC; Sat, 3 Feb 96 17:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: michel@thomson-lcr.fr (Philippe Michel) Subject: Text attachements without Base64 encoding Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:17:18 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 42 It seems to be impossible to send attachements with Pine without them being Base64-encoded, even if their Content-Type is text/plain. Is there a way (a patch to Pine 3.91 maybe) to avoid this ? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 17:59:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08297; Sat, 3 Feb 96 17:59:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16812; Sat, 3 Feb 96 17:56:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16806; Sat, 3 Feb 96 17:56:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0titg7-00038TC; Sat, 3 Feb 96 17:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: flavell@vxcern.cern.ch (Alan J. Flavell) Subject: Re: Including a list in Bcc: field? Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 19:06:45 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 43 In article , Marianne.Aldridge@UAlberta.CA (Lea) writes: > >I have a client with a list of 300+ addresses, not in Pine addressbook >>format, that he wants to send a single message to. In addition, he >wants >the list to be in blind-carbon format so that recipients do not have to >>wade through screenfuls of addresses before getting to the message. >The >list, as it's formatted right now, would probably work fine if I could >>get it into the Bcc: field, but I haven't yet successfully done >that... Create the list in your addressbook in the usual way. When you want to mail to the list, put your own address on the To: header and put the nickname of the list onto the Bcc: header. Mails without a To: addressee can cause problems elsewhere. You can afterwards throw away the copy that you sent to yourself. >Because of the size of the list editting would probably be almost as bad >as entering the addresses individually into the addressbook (this is NOT >a user who could ably use something like vi or emacs). I think the format of the addressbook is documented. You could create an addressbook for them (or provide the list in a global addressbook, if it's for public use). good luck From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 18:00:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08333; Sat, 3 Feb 96 18:00:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16820; Sat, 3 Feb 96 17:56:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16814; Sat, 3 Feb 96 17:56:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0titg8-00038VC; Sat, 3 Feb 96 17:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: file extensions/pine Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:56:54 -0800 Message-Id: References: <310E68F4.41C67EA6@suisun.ctd.ornl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <310E68F4.41C67EA6@suisun.ctd.ornl.gov> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 44 Pine 3.92 will support the .mime-types mechanism to define the relationship between file extensions and MIME types. You can then set up a mime-types file that matches the PMDF standards... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, chang s l wrote: > From: chang s l > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: file extensions/pine > Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:52:36 -0500 > Organization: MMES > Message-ID: <310E68F4.41C67EA6@suisun.ctd.ornl.gov> > NNTP-Posting-Host: suisun.ctd.ornl.gov > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b3 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3C sun4m) > Cc: sui@.MISSING-HOST-NAME. > > Does anyone know what data-types/file-extensions that pine would take? > E.g. the following extensions have been standardized > for use with PDMF MAIL: > > Data Type Standard File Extension > > WordPerfect 5.1 .WP > Microsoft Word .WRD > Microsoft Excel .XLS > Audio .AU > GIF .GIF > JPEG .JPG > TIFF .TIFF > PostScript .PS > MacBinary .BIN > BinHex .HQX > > Are they for pine also? > > > Thanks, > Shui Chang > ORNL/LMES > sui@ornl.gov > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 18:22:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08783; Sat, 3 Feb 96 18:22:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13578; Sat, 3 Feb 96 18:06:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13572; Sat, 3 Feb 96 18:06:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0titlu-00038TC; Sat, 3 Feb 96 18:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Wendy Weathers Subject: Receipt/No Receipt Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 04:20:55 -0800 Message-Id: <31135327.364B@computernets.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 45 Does anybody know if Pine has a receipt command? -- Wendy Weathers Computernets P.O. Box 370 Livermore, Ca 94551-0370 510.449.1982 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 21:40:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11853; Sat, 3 Feb 96 21:40:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19250; Sat, 3 Feb 96 21:31:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19244; Sat, 3 Feb 96 21:31:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tix1C-00038TC; Sat, 3 Feb 96 21:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lisaplayz@aol.com (Lisa Playz) Subject: .vacation Date: 3 Feb 1996 23:20:00 -0500 Message-Id: <4f1c5g$6eh@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 46 How do you configure the .forward file? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 23:39:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14077; Sat, 3 Feb 96 23:39:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17183; Sat, 3 Feb 96 23:37:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17177; Sat, 3 Feb 96 23:37:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tiyxb-00038UC; Sat, 3 Feb 96 23:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: n9442830@cc.wwu.edu (Jed Lapp) Subject: Pine jumped up and bit me last night Date: 1 Feb 1996 12:47:53 -0800 Message-Id: <4er8tp$9h1@henson.cc.wwu.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 49 I was laying in bed last night when my pine program wanted me to logon. I said, "Leave me alone Piney baby, I'm tryin to sleep." That was a mistake because then my pine program said, "Jed, your password is no longer valid with me." Now I can't get on so a word of advice, when your pine program comes to you in the night do what it says. ~Jed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 3 23:39:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14105; Sat, 3 Feb 96 23:39:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20864; Sat, 3 Feb 96 23:37:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20858; Sat, 3 Feb 96 23:37:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tiyxb-00038VC; Sat, 3 Feb 96 23:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rasheed Baqai Subject: Re: Header info. Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:52:52 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 50 My apologies, the H command does give the full header. I was using the H command with e-mail I had sent, and obviously there is no mail trail header for those. On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Rasheed Baqai wrote: > How about the mail sending trail (the lines above the header that show > how it got transferred from server to server while being sent)? Is there > a way to get it to be seen on pine? (the mail sending trail is useful --- R a B s a rbaqai@uci.edu h q http://www.ics.uci.edu/~rbaqai/ e a University of California, Irvine-Information & Computer Science e i d From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 4 04:15:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19423; Sun, 4 Feb 96 04:15:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20411; Sun, 4 Feb 96 04:07:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20405; Sun, 4 Feb 96 04:07:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tj39P-00038UC; Sun, 4 Feb 96 04:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: summers@deakin.edu.au (JONATHAN CHARLES SUMMERS) Subject: .Signature - Where is it?? Date: 4 Feb 1996 07:57:20 GMT Message-Id: <4f1ot0$c76@sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 51 Hi I am using Pine on my Uni account. The setup suggests that as I haven't defined my sugnature account it will use the default .signature - problem is I can't find .signature. If I need to create it where would it go?? -- Many thanks, keep well JonathanS From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 4 08:25:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22912; Sun, 4 Feb 96 08:25:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26681; Sun, 4 Feb 96 08:16:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26675; Sun, 4 Feb 96 08:16:54 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17997; Sun, 4 Feb 96 08:16:30 -0800 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 08:16:29 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Philippe Michel Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Text attachements without Base64 encoding In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 52 Reasons for why this behavior is a feature, not a bug, have been posted previously, but the bottom line is: if your recipient doesn't support MIME and/or you don't mind if the text/plain might get slightly modified enroute, then instead of *attaching* the text, use control-R and *include* it. -teg On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Philippe Michel wrote: > It seems to be impossible to send attachements with Pine without them > being Base64-encoded, even if their Content-Type is text/plain. > > Is there a way (a patch to Pine 3.91 maybe) to avoid this ? > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 4 10:51:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25747; Sun, 4 Feb 96 10:51:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28462; Sun, 4 Feb 96 10:42:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bud.indirect.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28456; Sun, 4 Feb 96 10:42:25 -0800 Received: from mindcrime (djm@mindcrime.indirect.com [165.247.51.5]) by bud.indirect.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA19779 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 11:42:43 -0700 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 11:37:37 -0700 (MST) From: Dan McGuirk X-Sender: djm@mindcrime To: Pine Mailing List Subject: feature suggestion Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 53 it'd be nice if, in the list of folders, I could see an overview of how many messages are in each folder. I don't know if this is easy to do within the IMAP protocol, but I have my mail filtered into a bunch of different folders for different mailing lists, and it'd be nice to know if there are any messages in each one without having to go through and select them one at a time. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 4 11:29:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26415; Sun, 4 Feb 96 11:29:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28988; Sun, 4 Feb 96 11:23:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28982; Sun, 4 Feb 96 11:23:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjA0s-00038VC; Sun, 4 Feb 96 11:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhart@EOSC.OSSHE.EDU (Joseph Hart) Subject: Control-C (Cancel)--Won't! Date: 4 Feb 1996 16:36:05 GMT Message-Id: <4f2n9m$quc@eaglecap.eosc.osshe.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 54 Hello All, I am having a problem using Pine as a mail handler because the Control-C command used to cancel an operation does not work. E.g., when I am composing a message, but decide to cancel it, I cannot and cannot get out of the message operation except by doing a Control-O to postpone the message. I get this error no matter what kind of connection I make to the mail server (direct, PPP, or dialup). Our system administrator has said that a conflict is present because our Unix system interprets Control-C as a reserved command within the server and will not execute it within Pine. Any suggestions, Joe jhart@eosc.osshe.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 4 12:48:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27892; Sun, 4 Feb 96 12:48:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00142; Sun, 4 Feb 96 12:43:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from services.state.mo.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00136; Sun, 4 Feb 96 12:43:46 -0800 Received: from services by services (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA09759; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 14:46:10 -0600 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 14:46:08 -0600 (CST) From: James Proffer X-Sender: james@services To: Lisa Playz Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: .vacation In-Reply-To: <4f1c5g$6eh@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 55 Use your favorite editor to create a file named .forward. Place in that file the e-mail adress(es) to which you wish your mail forwarded. On 3 Feb 1996, Lisa Playz wrote: > How do you configure the .forward file? > Missouri State Data Center <*> James Proffer: UNIX sysadm The Source for Missouri Info | Phone: (573) 751-1544 Fax: (573) 751-3299 FTP: ftp.state.mo.us | Internet: james@mail.state.mo.us Gopher: gopher.state.mo.us | www: www.state.mo.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 4 12:49:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27929; Sun, 4 Feb 96 12:49:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26250; Sun, 4 Feb 96 12:46:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from services.state.mo.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26244; Sun, 4 Feb 96 12:46:01 -0800 Received: from services by services (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA09768; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 14:47:39 -0600 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 14:47:36 -0600 (CST) From: James Proffer X-Sender: james@services To: JONATHAN CHARLES SUMMERS Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: .Signature - Where is it?? In-Reply-To: <4f1ot0$c76@sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 56 Normally .signature goes in your account's home directory i.e. ~summers. On 4 Feb 1996, JONATHAN CHARLES SUMMERS wrote: > Hi > > I am using Pine on my Uni account. The setup suggests that as I haven't > defined my sugnature account it will use the default .signature - problem > is I can't find .signature. > > > If I need to create it where would it go?? > > -- > > Many thanks, keep well > > JonathanS > Missouri State Data Center <*> James Proffer: UNIX sysadm The Source for Missouri Info | Phone: (573) 751-1544 Fax: (573) 751-3299 FTP: ftp.state.mo.us | Internet: james@mail.state.mo.us Gopher: gopher.state.mo.us | www: www.state.mo.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 4 13:19:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28637; Sun, 4 Feb 96 13:19:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26695; Sun, 4 Feb 96 13:13:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26688; Sun, 4 Feb 96 13:13:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjBk7-00038VC; Sun, 4 Feb 96 13:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rslux@link-net.com (rslux) Subject: Re: Help with Mail Servers WinNT Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 06:39:27 GMT Message-Id: <4e49ks$94q@maureen.teleport.com> References: <30EF5309.5690@compuserve.com> <30F0383F.58C2@nttex.com> <4cptet$1tj@tornix.tornado.be> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 57 On Mon, 22 Jan 1996 11:53:28 GMT, mob@celestion.com (Martin Roberts) uttered the following: >In article <4cptet$1tj@tornix.tornado.be> lukvdh@tornado.be (Luk Van de Heyning) writes: >>Joe Savage wrote: >>>I am currently running an evaluation copy of post.office and it out performs all the >>>others. It's easy to setup and administer and I would recommend it highly for a small to >>>medium size lan. >>Perhaps you could be so kind to let us know where to find it? Any URL >>to it? Http://www.software.com It's great. ==++==++==++==++== Rachel Luxemburg RSLux@link-net.com LinkAmerica Internet Access www.link-net.com info@link-net.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 4 16:08:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01738; Sun, 4 Feb 96 16:08:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02559; Sun, 4 Feb 96 16:03:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02553; Sun, 4 Feb 96 16:03:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjEOw-00038VC; Sun, 4 Feb 96 16:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Anonymous Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 16:39:40 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 58 I missed the original posting, but the question is clear. > On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Shadowfire wrote: > > > Does anybody know how to configure pine so that I can be anonymous > > instead of my e-mail address showing in the from field? Merely playing with headers is not sufficiant to really send mail anonymously. The best way to send mail anonymously is by using an anonymous remailer. If you send a message to help@alpha.c2.org you will get help on using that (more secure) but more complicated remailer. Or help@anon.penet.fi For a simpler, slower, and less secure one. There is also a really excellent website on remailers by "Galactus": http://www.stack.urc.tue.nl/~galactus/remailers/ Further discussion of anonymous remailers does not really belong in comp.mail.pine. So I am cross posting this to alt.anonymous (I hope that is the appropriate group) and directing follow-ups there. On 23 Jan 1996, Jim Esten wrote: > .......does anyone care? What are you hiding from? Take a look at some of the documents on that page for some of the many legitimate uses of anonymous remailers. -jeff Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "An `alternative paradigm' is the first refuge of the incompetent" --LM From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 4 17:18:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03205; Sun, 4 Feb 96 17:18:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29757; Sun, 4 Feb 96 17:14:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29751; Sun, 4 Feb 96 17:14:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjFSp-00038VC; Sun, 4 Feb 96 17:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lisaplayz@aol.com (Lisa Playz) Subject: Re: automatic bouncing of mail? Date: 2 Feb 1996 23:01:57 -0500 Message-Id: <4eumnl$6ot@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 59 You should be able to include the email addresses on your list to your .forward file. this is very easy. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 4 18:03:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04247; Sun, 4 Feb 96 18:03:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04231; Sun, 4 Feb 96 17:59:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vitaminc.dhn.csiro.au by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04207; Sun, 4 Feb 96 17:58:54 -0800 Received: (from peterb@localhost) by vitaminc.dhn.csiro.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) id MAA08494; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 12:29:25 +1030 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 12:29:23 +1030 (CDT) From: Peter Baghurst X-Sender: peterb@vitaminc To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: A problem building pine 3.91 using gcc under Solaris 2.4 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 60 Hello there.... I have been trying to rebuild pine 3.91 under Solaris 2.4 using the gnu gcc compiler. (I am doing this so that I can include the mbox driver and keep the spool area empty) The first build falls over with MANY complaints about osdep.h. So long as one does not do a in between, a more appropriate osdep.h is in place as a result of a copy command in the makefile.sol in the pico directory. Nevertheless, as can be seen below, there are still a couple of problems for pine concerning type declarations for things like memcpy, strcpy and memcmp (in routines mtest.c and addrbook.c) - and I wondered if anyone might be able to help. Has anyone already solved this problem? Cheers, Peter Baghurst CSIRO Division of Human Nutrition, Kintore Avenue Adelaide e-mail: peterb@dhn.csiro.au ****************************************************************** The following is the log for the second build:- make args are "CC=gcc" Making c-client library, mtest and imapd make build SYSTYPE=non-ANSI OS=sol make[1]: Entering directory `/home/peterb/pine3.91/imap' echo sol > OSTYPE rm -rf systype ln -s non-ANSI systype cd non-ANSI/c-client; make sol make[2]: Entering directory `/home/peterb/pine3.91/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' make mtest OS=sv4 EXTRADRIVERS="" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto \ RSHPATH=/usr/bin/rsh CFLAGS="-g -Dconst= " \ RANLIB=true LDFLAGS="-lsocket -lnsl -lgen" make[3]: Entering directory `/home/peterb/pine3.91/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' ./drivers imap nntp pop3 mh mtx tenex mmdf bezerk news phile dummy rm -f OSTYPE CFLAGS LDFLAGS osdep.h echo sv4 > OSTYPE echo -g -Dconst= > CFLAGS echo -lsocket -lnsl -lgen > LDFLAGS ln -s os_sv4.h osdep.h gcc -g -Dconst= -c mtest.c In file included from osdep.h:40, from mtest.c:48: /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' gcc -g -Dconst= -o mtest mtest.o c-client.a -lsocket -lnsl -lgen make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/peterb/pine3.91/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/peterb/pine3.91/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' cd non-ANSI/ms;make make[2]: Entering directory `/home/peterb/pine3.91/imap/non-ANSI/ms' If CCMD library is not available, ms will not be made. This is alright since ms is only a demonstration program. ../../../ccmd directory not found, so make.ms is ignored make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/peterb/pine3.91/imap/non-ANSI/ms' cd non-ANSI/ipopd;make make[2]: Entering directory `/home/peterb/pine3.91/imap/non-ANSI/ipopd' make[2]: Nothing to be done for `ipopd'. make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/peterb/pine3.91/imap/non-ANSI/ipopd' cd non-ANSI/imapd;make make[2]: Entering directory `/home/peterb/pine3.91/imap/non-ANSI/imapd' make[2]: `imapd' is up to date. make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/peterb/pine3.91/imap/non-ANSI/imapd' make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/peterb/pine3.91/imap' Making Pico make: Nothing to be done for `all'. Making Pine. gcc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -ansi -DANSI -c addrbook.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:40, from headers.h:78, from addrbook.c:65: /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:46, from headers.h:78, from addrbook.c:65: /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/unistd.h:225: conflicting types for `rename' /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/stdio.h:153: previous declaration of `rename' make: *** [addrbook.o] Error 1 Links to executables are in bin directory: size: bin/pine: cannot open bin/mtest: 407420 + 5364 + 1896 = 414680 bin/imapd: 428700 + 5516 + 9076 = 443292 bin/pico: 127924 + 10892 + 8140 = 146956 Done *****************************end of log**************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 4 19:49:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06820; Sun, 4 Feb 96 19:49:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05528; Sun, 4 Feb 96 19:44:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05516; Sun, 4 Feb 96 19:44:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjHoU-00038VC; Sun, 4 Feb 96 19:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matteo Mainetti Subject: sent-mail folder should sort differently (fwd) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 14:31:13 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1920189261-182593334-823450007=:18839" Content-Id: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 61 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1920189261-182593334-823450007=:18839 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Hi there, can anyone help me ? I sent the following to Pine bug report, but I doubt they will read it, as it already happened. If you have suggestions, please Email me. I will not check this newsgroup very often thanks, \\|||// @ @ | \_/ m.m. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 11:11:21 -0500 (EST) From: Matteo Mainetti To: Pine Developers Subject: Bug (ID S4144): sent-mail folder should sort differently Hi there, I've been trying to fix the following problem in many ways, without results. I read instructions, I wrote to newsgroups, I wrote to you previously, without success. I do think this is a bug, or a semi-bug (in the sense that one can live without fixing it). However, here it comes: I'd like to have the sent-mail folder sorted by recipient, in such a way that I keep only one folder for the carbon copy of the outgoing mail, and it would be easy to retrieve any wanted mail, or review the correspondence with someone. Therefore I would 1. allow pine to specify a specific sorting method to the folder sent-mail 2. create a new sorting key, the "to:" key (with "date" second) Hoping that this problem will be taken into account, best regards, matteo \\|||// mainetti @ @ | \_/ m.m. --1920189261-182593334-823450007=:18839 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = matteo, full = Matteo Mainetti home = /m3/matteo home_dir= /m3/matteo hostname= severi localdom= severi userdom= math.mit.edu maildom= math.mit.edu cur_cntxt= gente/[] cur_fldr= sent-mail actual mbox= /m3/matteo/gente/sent-mail msgmap: tot=337, cur=324, del=337, hid=0, exld=0, slct=337, sort=From actual inbox= inbox inbox map: tot=0, cur=0, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Date term type=vt100, ttyname=/dev/ttyc42, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Matteo Mainetti user-id : matteo user-domain : math.mit.edu nntp-server : galois.mit.edu inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : gente gente/[] : varie mail/[] news-collections : News *{galois.mit.edu/nntp}[] default-fcc : /m3/matteo/mail/SPEDITI postponed-folder : /m3/matteo/mail/POSTSPONED mail-directory : mail signature-file : .firma address-book : .addressbook feature-list : signature-at-bottom : preserve-start-stop-characters : expanded-view-of-folders : news-approximates-new-status : enable-aggregate-command-set saved-msg-name-rule : last-folder-used fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : Date addrbook-sort-rule : nickname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : lpr standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 96.2 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/m3/matteo/.pinerc) ======= personal-name : Matteo Mainetti user-domain : math.mit.edu nntp-server : galois.mit.edu folder-collections : gente gente/[] : varie mail/[] news-collections : News *{galois.mit.edu/nntp}[] default-fcc : /m3/matteo/mail/SPEDITI postponed-folder : /m3/matteo/mail/POSTSPONED signature-file : .firma address-book : .addressbook feature-list : signature-at-bottom : preserve-start-stop-characters : expanded-view-of-folders : news-approximates-new-status : enable-aggregate-command-set fcc-name-rule : by-recipient sort-key : Date addrbook-sort-rule : nickname-with-lists-last last-time-prune-ques : 96.2 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : last-folder-used fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : lpr standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd no-enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys --1920189261-182593334-823450007=:18839-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 4 21:02:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07925; Sun, 4 Feb 96 21:02:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02683; Sun, 4 Feb 96 20:59:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02677; Sun, 4 Feb 96 20:59:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjIyU-00038VC; Sun, 4 Feb 96 20:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: feature suggestion Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 19:00:57 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 62 On 4 Feb 1996, Dan McGuirk wrote: : it'd be nice if, in the list of folders, I could see an overview of how : many messages are in each folder. I don't know if this is easy to do : within the IMAP protocol, but I have my mail filtered into a bunch of : different folders for different mailing lists, and it'd be nice to know : if there are any messages in each one without having to go through and : select them one at a time. If you have a Web browser and are using a Unix-like system, browse my home page. I have (and use) a technique for doing just this. (It requires Perl.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 4 22:54:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09850; Sun, 4 Feb 96 22:54:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03976; Sun, 4 Feb 96 22:49:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03970; Sun, 4 Feb 96 22:49:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjKft-00038RC; Sun, 4 Feb 96 22:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jowells@vt.edu (John Wells) Subject: Re: security holes with straight compile? Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 01:29:42 GMT Message-Id: <31155d37.3183598@news.vt.edu> References: <4f308j$jn9@crl.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 63 On 4 Feb 1996 11:09:07 -0800, ctorlins@crl.com (Christoph Torlinsky) wrote: > I just did a straight forward compile of pine 3.9.1 , on ptx. > just did a build ptx essentially. Are there any options which should > be turned off in customary fashion to prevent potential security holes? > or is pine3.9.1 pretty safe right out of the box? Thanks For what implementation? If this is for a Freeport type system, I can give you a Sun patch I did (which will have to be edited for ptx). > -chris Regards, John --- John Wells . http://www.vt.edu:10021/J/jowells CapAccess Pine 3.91-FP Project . Va Tech Honors Dept. WWW Project From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 4 23:01:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10002; Sun, 4 Feb 96 23:01:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07847; Sun, 4 Feb 96 22:55:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07841; Sun, 4 Feb 96 22:55:50 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA24892 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 07:55:38 +0100 Received: (from bor@localhost) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA05351; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 09:55:25 +0300 (OET) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 09:55:22 +0300 (OET) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsmx1 Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: sent-mail folder should sort differently (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 64 On Sun, 4 Feb 1996, Matteo Mainetti wrote: > I'd like to have the sent-mail folder sorted by recipient, in such a > way that I keep only one folder for the carbon copy of the outgoing > mail, and it would be easy to retrieve any wanted mail, or review > the correspondence with someone. > Therefore I would > > 1. allow pine to specify a specific sorting method to the folder sent-mail > 2. create a new sorting key, the "to:" key (with "date" second) > > Hoping that this problem will be taken into account, > As a followup: probably it would be nice to be able to specify sorting method for every folder. Current 'one-for-all' setup doesn't well suite into the scenario, when mail gets sorted into many different folders whith very different contents. greetings Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 4 23:26:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10545; Sun, 4 Feb 96 23:26:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04389; Sun, 4 Feb 96 23:24:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04383; Sun, 4 Feb 96 23:24:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjLEq-00038TC; Sun, 4 Feb 96 23:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jowells@vt.edu (John Wells) Subject: Re: .forward file ??? Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 01:37:35 GMT Message-Id: <31155edb.3603408@news.vt.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 65 On 2 Feb 1996 23:08:00 -0500, lisaplayz@aol.com (Lisa Playz) wrote: >What commands are used in the .forward file to initiate a vacation file? You want to keep a copy in your current account, and pipe a copy to vacation. This is mine : "wells,|/usr/ucb/vacation" SunOS's vacation command will configure all of this for you. "man vacation" if it doesn't. Regards, John --- John Wells . http://www.vt.edu:10021/J/jowells CapAccess Pine 3.91-FP Project . Va Tech Honors Dept. WWW Project From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 4 23:27:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10573; Sun, 4 Feb 96 23:27:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08161; Sun, 4 Feb 96 23:24:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08155; Sun, 4 Feb 96 23:24:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjLDn-00038RC; Sun, 4 Feb 96 23:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jowells@vt.edu (John Wells) Subject: Re: pop3 and pine 3.91 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 01:32:21 GMT Message-Id: <31155da6.3294755@news.vt.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 66 On 3 Feb 1996 11:46:35 -0800, g5kalam@cdf.toronto.edu (Ka Lam) wrote: >But, if I go use pine3.90, this problem goes away. The only problem is, >I don't have enough disk space to have my own copy of pine3.90 in my >directory. Is there any work around for 3.91? An easy way to get around this particular problem is to forward the mail from your other account. If it is a shell account, put the email address you want it sent to in a file called ".forward". If not, talk to your system administrator of that account about forwarding mail. Regards, John Wells --- John Wells . http://www.vt.edu:10021/J/jowells CapAccess Pine 3.91-FP Project . Va Tech Honors Dept. WWW Project From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 00:19:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11514; Mon, 5 Feb 96 00:19:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04994; Mon, 5 Feb 96 00:17:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from marja.mikkeliamk.fi by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04988; Mon, 5 Feb 96 00:17:22 -0800 Message-Id: <9602050817.AA04988@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Received: from localhost by marja.mikkeliamk.fi with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA20174; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 10:19:23 +0200 From: Jukka Soivanen Date: Mon, 05 Feb 96 10:19:23 200 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla/1.0N (X11; HP-UX A.09.05 9000/712) Subject: HPUX X-Url: http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/pine-info/95.02/msg00219.html Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 67 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 01:26:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13261; Mon, 5 Feb 96 01:26:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05817; Mon, 5 Feb 96 01:20:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05811; Mon, 5 Feb 96 01:20:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjN1U-00038TC; Mon, 5 Feb 96 01:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dupuis@lei.ucl.ac.be (Pascal A. Dupuis) Subject: Turning ON/OFF Quoted-Printable ? Date: 2 Feb 1996 08:28:19 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 68 Hello, There are a lot of E-Mail clients on our campus. Most of them are ISO-8859-1 aware, (French beeing the usual langage), but not all can handle Quoted Printable. When using the ISO charset to send message, Pine seems to always use QP. For received messages, it handles both QP and 8bit (no encoding) How could I send straigh 8bits chars, with a header : Content-Type : Text/Plain, charset = ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks in advance Pascal A. Dupuis -- You've just been hit by the .signature virus. Program terminated. Core dumped. Stand by while system reboots... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 01:30:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13545; Mon, 5 Feb 96 01:30:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09648; Mon, 5 Feb 96 01:20:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09635; Mon, 5 Feb 96 01:20:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjN1U-00038RC; Mon, 5 Feb 96 01:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin M Bealer Subject: Re: Pine jumped up and bit me last night Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 02:57:52 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4er8tp$9h1@henson.cc.wwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4er8tp$9h1@henson.cc.wwu.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 69 On 1 Feb 1996, Jed Lapp wrote: > I was laying in bed last night when my pine program wanted me to logon. > I said, "Leave me alone Piney baby, I'm tryin to sleep." That was a > mistake because then my pine program said, "Jed, your password is no > longer valid with me." Now I can't get on so a word of advice, when > your pine program comes to you in the night do what it says. > ~Jed Well, see, your pine program just wanted some input. When you refused to navigate it's menus, it figured you were with another mail 'client' as they say, POPping off a few messages, and got insulted. Piney once and for all got tired of your timesharing ways and decided you were just another _user_ and now you're edited out of her configuration for good. I'm sayin' yer gone. Kill -9'ed. That'll teach you to treat Piney like "just another socket." So in the future, one 'client' at a time or you'll be spending CPU time with lots of little 'child processes'. By the way, I can hardly feel sorry for you... All last night I had to listen to her tears, so great they were redirected to a stream. What? Of _course_ you didn't know. You and your little group no longer have any permissions around here. She changed her .lock files, too. And another thing: Piney asked me to come by your home directory later and pick up her dot files. It's on "elm" street, right? :?) _____Running_Debian_Linux__(stable)__version_1.2.13___________________ \ "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist | the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -- H.L. Mencken | Kevin Bealer Q: Would you like to see the WINE list? kmb203@psu.edu A: What's on it, anything expensive? | Q: No, just Solitaire and Minesweeper for now, but the WINE is free. | ______________________________________________________________________/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 01:48:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14052; Mon, 5 Feb 96 01:48:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09989; Mon, 5 Feb 96 01:42:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09983; Mon, 5 Feb 96 01:42:37 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 5 Feb 1996 09:40:47 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA22430; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 09:41:50 GMT Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 09:41:49 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Dan McGuirk Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: a few questions In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 70 Hi! On Sat, 3 Feb 1996, Dan McGuirk wrote: > 1) I read my mail remotely using imap. my real e-mail address is > mcguirk@indirect.com, but pine seems to just combine my username > on the local system (djm) with the domain name I gave it > (indirect.com), and so it comes up with an address that I don't want > (although it works), djm@indirect.com. how do I tell it the > correct address to use? Two possible solutions for you to look at: 1. Add a "Reply-to" header as a custom header (in Pine's Setup Configuration screen) with a default value of your proper e-mail address. Messages you send will still be marked as being "From:" your local machine, but recipients' mailers should honour the Reply-to address when constructing any reply to you. 2. Check out the "user-domain" value in the Setup Configuration screen. > 2) is there a way I can store the username and password (or at least > just the username) for each imap server somewhere so I don't have > to type them every time? You don't say whether you are using Pine on a UNIX machine or a PC! If a UNIX machine a better solution is to set up your IMAP daemon to work in pre-authenticated mode using the rsh mechanism. If a PC then you _can_ put the information in a file (whose name I forget as we don't use Pine on PCs here) *IF* your machine/file is secure against snoopers. > 3) I tried postponing some messages, then I decided I didn't want to send > them, so I deleted them from the postponed-msgs folder. after that, > I was left with a 0-byte postponed-msgs folder, and pine would ask > me every time I sent a message if I wanted to continue a postponed > message. if I said yes, it figured out that there were really no > postponed messages, but then it came up with an error message > trying to delete the postponed-msgs folder. it wouldn't stop asking > me about the postponed-msgs until I got on the imap server and deleted > the postponed-msgs folder myself. is this a bug? I recall that this is a bug in the imapd 3.5 source code included with Pine. I *think* it is fixed (or at least made more robust) in the 3.6-BETA version of the imapd source code, available separately from ftp.cac.washington.edu. Just unpack it and use it in place of the 3.5 code to build both imapd and Pine. > 4) when is pine 3.92 coming out? I've heard it will have support > for PGP. When they are ready. (They have not yet given a date, but HAVE said they are unwilling to give a date :-) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 02:04:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14410; Mon, 5 Feb 96 02:04:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06334; Mon, 5 Feb 96 01:57:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06328; Mon, 5 Feb 96 01:57:28 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 5 Feb 1996 09:51:15 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA24452; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 09:51:47 GMT Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 09:51:46 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Philippe Michel Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Text attachements without Base64 encoding In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 71 Files included by placing their name in the "Attachments" header field are *always* encoded using Base 64. If you have a text file you don't want Base 64 encoding, simply include it in the main message text area using the ^R (Read File) command. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Philippe Michel wrote: > It seems to be impossible to send attachements with Pine without them > being Base64-encoded, even if their Content-Type is text/plain. > > Is there a way (a patch to Pine 3.91 maybe) to avoid this ? > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 02:06:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14460; Mon, 5 Feb 96 02:06:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06349; Mon, 5 Feb 96 01:58:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06335; Mon, 5 Feb 96 01:57:31 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 5 Feb 1996 09:51:57 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA24550; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 09:52:36 GMT Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 09:52:36 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Lisa Playz Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: .vacation In-Reply-To: <4f1c5g$6eh@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 72 You read the manual page for it... usually described in: man sendmail Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 3 Feb 1996, Lisa Playz wrote: > How do you configure the .forward file? > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 02:59:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15498; Mon, 5 Feb 96 02:59:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10886; Mon, 5 Feb 96 02:50:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10880; Mon, 5 Feb 96 02:50:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjOTf-00038TC; Mon, 5 Feb 96 02:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Pine Review Date: 4 Feb 1996 18:24:26 -0800 Message-Id: <4f3poq$si@shellx.best.com> References: <199601300054.QAA29752@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 73 jplejacq@quoininc.com (Jean Pierre LeJacq) writes: >Nancy McGough maintains a Web site that might help: > > http://www.best.com//~ii/internet/mail+news.html That URL is out of date - please use this one instead: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/internet/mailnews.html And for links to pine info use: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/internet/pine/ Good luck and if you find some pine reviews please let me know so I can add them to my pine page. Thanks! Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 03:15:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16056; Mon, 5 Feb 96 03:15:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07381; Mon, 5 Feb 96 03:05:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07375; Mon, 5 Feb 96 03:05:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjOg3-00038RC; Mon, 5 Feb 96 03:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "INTELLECTS INC." Subject: (no subject) Date: 5 Feb 1996 09:23:58 GMT Message-Id: <4f4ibe$126@quest.ccsi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 74 Thanks for your time. I upgraded to the recent version and it worked as you said, but it is not serving my purpose. In one folder I have seven saved messages. I want to see them as seven message in eudora mailbos with the separate subject heading. But it is giving me as one message with only the heading for the first message. BTW it gives saparate heading if the pine message is not read. Is it possible to unread the pine message? possibly not. Thanks for time again. syed > >> Can you tell me whether Eudora will recognize the mbx created outside Eudora? > >It works for me. I just tried it to reassure myself. FTP'd a Pine >folder to my pc, copied it to Eudora mailbox directory, renamed it >from folder to folder.mbx, opened Eudora, and there it was. The name >in the mailbox list was all uppercase, but I can live with that, and >you can rename it if that's a problem. > >> I tried that; it seems that it is not recognizing the new ftp mailbox. >> Can you shed some light? > >What version of Eudora are you using? This has worked for me since >version 2.1.2, and I've had reports that it works with 1.5.2 (freeware >version) and later. In an earlier version, 2.0.3, I had to create the >mailbox in Eudora first, then exit Eudora, delete the .toc file, and >copy the Pine folder over top of the empty .mbx file that Eudora >created when the mailbox was created. If you are working with 1.4.x or >2.0.x I'd suggest upgrading rather than going through that extra work. > >I don't know what else to tell you. > >> Thanks again for your time and help. >> syed >> >> >Eudora mailboxes are in the exact same format as Pine >> >mailboxes, so the easiest thing to do would be to ftp the Pine >> >folder to your computer with Eudora, and put the file in the >> >directory where the rest of your Eudora mailboxes are. Be sure >> >to give the file an extension of .mbx when you put it in the >> >directory with your Eudora mailboxes. Also be sure to do the ftp >> >in ASCII mode so that the Unix --> DOS end-of-line conversion is >> >made. >> > >> > >> > >> ******************************************************************* >> * Austin Office: * >> * * >> * 6201 Middle Fiskville Road Phone: (512) 462-2345 * >> * Suite 1116 Fax: (512) 462-2346 * >> * Austin, TX 78752 Internet: intellec@intellects.com * >> >> * * >> ******************************************************************* >> >> > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 03:35:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16416; Mon, 5 Feb 96 03:35:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11464; Mon, 5 Feb 96 03:30:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11458; Mon, 5 Feb 96 03:30:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjP6P-00038TC; Mon, 5 Feb 96 03:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "INTELLECTS INC." Subject: unread read message Date: 5 Feb 1996 09:53:21 GMT Message-Id: <4f4k2h$126@quest.ccsi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 75 can you unread read message that is bring sack n From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 08:22:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23798; Mon, 5 Feb 96 08:22:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11694; Mon, 5 Feb 96 08:07:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11688; Mon, 5 Feb 96 08:07:04 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23876; Mon, 5 Feb 96 08:07:03 -0800 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 08:07:02 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pop3 and pine 3.91 In-Reply-To: <31155da6.3294755@news.vt.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 76 John's suggestion is probably the easiest, but other options include: o Rebuilding Pine 3.91 with the latest c-client 3.6 toolkit, which I believe fixes some POP-related bugs o Get the sysadmin to run an IMAPd... -teg On Mon, 5 Feb 1996, John Wells wrote: > On 3 Feb 1996 11:46:35 -0800, g5kalam@cdf.toronto.edu (Ka Lam) wrote: > > >But, if I go use pine3.90, this problem goes away. The only problem is, > >I don't have enough disk space to have my own copy of pine3.90 in my > >directory. Is there any work around for 3.91? > > An easy way to get around this particular problem is to forward the > mail from your other account. If it is a shell account, put the email > address you want it sent to in a file called ".forward". If not, talk > to your system administrator of that account about forwarding mail. > > Regards, > John Wells > > --- > John Wells . http://www.vt.edu:10021/J/jowells > CapAccess Pine 3.91-FP Project . Va Tech Honors Dept. WWW Project > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 08:44:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25077; Mon, 5 Feb 96 08:44:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12449; Mon, 5 Feb 96 08:30:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12443; Mon, 5 Feb 96 08:30:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjTlW-00038RC; Mon, 5 Feb 96 08:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jamesmcl@teleport.com (James McLochlann) Subject: Where to get PC-Pine? Date: 24 Jan 1996 16:08:03 GMT Message-Id: <4e5lh3$slh@maureen.teleport.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 77 Hello, Is there anyone out there who can tell me where/how to get a copy of pine that'll run on my pc? -- James McLochlann ... jamesmcl@teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~jamesmcl To do is to be. Do be, do be, do... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 09:17:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27355; Mon, 5 Feb 96 09:17:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17796; Mon, 5 Feb 96 09:05:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17790; Mon, 5 Feb 96 09:05:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjUJD-00038RC; Mon, 5 Feb 96 09:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zach@world.std.com (Zachary H Leber) Subject: long delays when entering Newsgroups field Message-Id: Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 15:30:43 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 78 When I move my cursor through the Newsgroups: field in the header, Pine freezes for about 30 seconds. I am using a remote NNTP server. Is this normal? -- ------------------------------------------------------ | Zach Leber | zach@world.std.com (home) | | RSA | zach@radionics.com (work) | | 22 Terry Avenue | Tel: 617-238-0600 x1312 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 11:02:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02858; Mon, 5 Feb 96 11:02:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16864; Mon, 5 Feb 96 10:51:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16858; Mon, 5 Feb 96 10:51:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjVwE-00038RC; Mon, 5 Feb 96 10:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eholst@rain.org (Eric R. Holst) Subject: Re: No individual configurations? Date: 24 Jan 1996 15:48:13 GMT Message-Id: <4e5kbt$9vu@news.rain.org> References: <4e11as$3us@fcnews.fc.hp.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 79 David Mullaney (mullaney@fc.hp.com) wrote: : Library Management Associates (libmgmt@world.std.com) wrote: : : Is there a way to have just one configuration file for all of our users, : : without having individual accounts being able to change their own : : configurations and override the main configuration? : A quick and incomplete solution would be to chown (change owner) of : .pinerc so that it is owned by root with permissions -rw-r--r-- This WON'T work! Assuming the user(s) own and have write permissions on their home directory, they can delete the .pinerc, even if w/ the owner/permissions stated above. : (or set up a symbolic link to some such file). See above^ : Hope that helps. : -- : + DAVID MULLANEY Mailstop #99, Loctn. 1UN5 (970) 229-7629 + : + > Net: mullaney@fc.hp.com http://hpfcdn/ -*- fax 2838 + : + > Software Engineer -- Ignition/UDL/OSSD /\/\/\ + : + > Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, Colorado _-/\^^/ \ + Eric -- /Eric R. Holst-(brewer_&_patriot)--------------Office Systems Coordinator\ | C$erve 76527,162 | | mailto:eholst@rain.org Ventura County Library Services Agency | | http://www.rain.org/~eholst http://www.ventura.org/vclib/venlsa.htm | \finger:eholst@rain.org FOR MY PGP PUBLIC KEY----------------------------/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 11:14:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03640; Mon, 5 Feb 96 11:14:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17487; Mon, 5 Feb 96 11:07:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17481; Mon, 5 Feb 96 11:07:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjWB4-00038RC; Mon, 5 Feb 96 11:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jax@info.polymtl.ca (Dinh Thai-Nghia) Subject: Pine FAQ and Procmail Date: 5 Feb 1996 16:59:49 GMT Message-Id: <4f5d25$gqo@service.polymtl.ca> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 80 Hi everyone, I have been lurking around this group for the last month or so but failed to see a FAQ. Is there such a thing? And if so, where can I find it? Also, could someone please point me to where I can find a copy of procmail. The ones I d/l all have a '.deb' extention. (i.e procmail.deb). And I have no idea what it is. Could someone please explain the deb thing or give me some pointers to where I can get a working copy of procmail. Thanx. -- Ciao!! jax! ? ''~`` ( o o ) +-------------------------------.oooO--(_)--Oooo.---------------------------+ Keyboard not connected - press F1 to continue .oooO ( ) Oooo. +----------------------------------\ (----( )-----------------------------+ DISCLAIMER:The views expressed \_) ) / jax@info.polymtl.ca herein are totally personnal and are not (_/ if540-04@lab1unix.polymtl.ca necessarily shared by my employer, university, if335e03@lab1unix.polymtl.ca nor any other organization or individual! http://info.polymtl.ca/~jax From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 11:26:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04201; Mon, 5 Feb 96 11:26:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17901; Mon, 5 Feb 96 11:21:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17895; Mon, 5 Feb 96 11:21:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjWSw-00038RC; Mon, 5 Feb 96 11:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cbhuang@unixg.ubc.ca (Who is this) Subject: pine locks?? Date: 5 Feb 1996 07:25:13 GMT Message-Id: <4f4bcp$nk9@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 81 HI, I have a question being asked by one of my friend. I would like to know how come PINE locks some of the folders after I read the messages, and, unfortunately, I wasn't able to return to the messages, or the folers, sometimes, the folder will appear like 'sent-mail.lock' or 'sent-mail-lock' and I wasn't able to get back to it. any suggestions? Doris From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 11:38:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04930; Mon, 5 Feb 96 11:38:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22015; Mon, 5 Feb 96 11:21:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22009; Mon, 5 Feb 96 11:21:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjWSw-00038TC; Mon, 5 Feb 96 11:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eelco M Glasl Subject: Re: .vacation Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 14:21:58 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4f1c5g$6eh@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4f1c5g$6eh@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 82 On 3 Feb 1996, Lisa Playz wrote: > How do you configure the .forward file? lisa, a ~/.forward file contains a comma-separated list of addresses to which incoming mails should be redistributed. if you want to leave a copy on your system, use the backslash-prefix: e.g.: (1) me@somehwere.else.com, me@over.there.edu (2) \mehere, me@somewhere.else.com hope it helps, emg -- Eelco M. Glasl, SysAdmin | Techno-Z Salzburg Research - Austria emglasl@dir.fh-sbg.ac.at | http://www.dir.fh-sbg.ac.at/~emglasl From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 11:45:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05251; Mon, 5 Feb 96 11:45:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18410; Mon, 5 Feb 96 11:36:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18404; Mon, 5 Feb 96 11:36:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjWhg-00038WC; Mon, 5 Feb 96 11:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dov Siegman Subject: Re: .Signature - Where is it?? Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 20:20:25 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4f1ot0$c76@sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 83 Whoops, he means ls -a. (for hidden files. -l is for file attributes.) On Sun, 4 Feb 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On 4 Feb 1996, JONATHAN CHARLES SUMMERS wrote: > > > I am using Pine on my Uni account. The setup suggests that as I haven't > > defined my sugnature account it will use the default .signature - problem > > is I can't find .signature. > > > > If I need to create it where would it go?? > > By default, the .signature file goes in your home directory. (You > can get there by the cd command from the shell prompt.) Just edit it > like any other text file. However, the bare ls (list) command does not > show filenames beginning with a period. Use ls -l . > > Paul > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA > Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key > Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 13:25:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10981; Mon, 5 Feb 96 13:25:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26084; Mon, 5 Feb 96 13:19:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26078; Mon, 5 Feb 96 13:19:09 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23052; Mon, 5 Feb 96 13:18:54 -0800 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 13:18:52 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: "Christopher W. Curtis" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE Feature Request In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 84 Use the ";" select command of Pine 3.91. Make sure it is anabled in the Setup/Config screen first... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Christopher W. Curtis wrote: > Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > From: "Christopher W. Curtis" > Subject: PINE Feature Request > Message-ID: > Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:34:02 GMT > > Hello, > > I have yet another feature request for PINE. I haven't been > diddling in the newsgroup much lately, but a nice feature for > the next version of PINE would be a from-index search. I get > a lot of mail with totally irrelevant subjects, and sometimes > in a list of 100 messages, it's difficult to find the appro- > priate message. I'd like to see PINE have a feature, from the > folder index, where you can, say, hit 'w' for whereis, type > your keyword, then maybe hit "^W" to search INSIDE messages. > PINE could simply highlight ('select') the messages that apply, > or perhaps flag them "I"mportant or "K"eyed or something like > that. > > I'd also like to reiterate my request to make sure PINE has the > ability to cancel messages posted to newsgroups. :) > > TIA, > -- > Christopher Curtis, Sun SysAdmin - http://www.ee.fit.edu/users/ccurtis > Florida Institute of Technology - telnet bofh.engr.wisc.edu 666 > Melbourne, Florida USA - Member, Team OS/2 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 13:33:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11413; Mon, 5 Feb 96 13:33:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22166; Mon, 5 Feb 96 13:23:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from yacht.ee.fit.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22156; Mon, 5 Feb 96 13:23:43 -0800 Received: from frigate (frigate.ee.fit.edu) by ee.fit.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0/900117wah) id AA07890; Mon, 5 Feb 96 16:24:42 EST Received: by frigate (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA03216; Mon, 5 Feb 96 16:26:17 EST Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 16:26:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Christopher W. Curtis" X-Sender: ccurtis@frigate To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE Feature Request In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 85 I don't understand. I highlighted three messages, then searched for the word "Duplicate", which existed in the text of the second message, but PINE reported that the text was not found. -- Christopher Curtis, Sun SysAdmin - http://www.ee.fit.edu/users/ccurtis Florida Institute of Technology - telnet bofh.engr.wisc.edu 666 Melbourne, Florida USA - Member, Team OS/2 On Mon, 5 Feb 1996, David L Miller wrote: > Use the ";" select command of Pine 3.91. Make sure it is anabled in > the Setup/Config screen first... I wrote: > > I have yet another feature request for PINE. I haven't been > > diddling in the newsgroup much lately, but a nice feature for > > the next version of PINE would be a from-index search. I get > > a lot of mail with totally irrelevant subjects, and sometimes > > in a list of 100 messages, it's difficult to find the appro- > > priate message. I'd like to see PINE have a feature, from the > > folder index, where you can, say, hit 'w' for whereis, type > > your keyword, then maybe hit "^W" to search INSIDE messages. > > PINE could simply highlight ('select') the messages that apply, > > or perhaps flag them "I"mportant or "K"eyed or something like > > that. [...] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 13:41:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12051; Mon, 5 Feb 96 13:41:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22559; Mon, 5 Feb 96 13:35:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22553; Mon, 5 Feb 96 13:35:36 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23518; Mon, 5 Feb 96 13:35:32 -0800 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 13:35:30 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Matteo Mainetti Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: sent-mail folder should sort differently (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 86 On Sun, 4 Feb 1996, Matteo Mainetti wrote: > I'd like to have the sent-mail folder sorted by recipient, in such a > way that I keep only one folder for the carbon copy of the outgoing > mail, and it would be easy to retrieve any wanted mail, or review > the correspondence with someone. > Therefore I would > > 1. allow pine to specify a specific sorting method to the folder sent-mail > 2. create a new sorting key, the "to:" key (with "date" second) > Pine 3.92 will include the ability to sort by To:... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 13:43:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12152; Mon, 5 Feb 96 13:43:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26508; Mon, 5 Feb 96 13:31:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26502; Mon, 5 Feb 96 13:31:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjYT0-00038RC; Mon, 5 Feb 96 13:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@guava.epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: cmsg cancel <4f58np$1i5@guava.epix.net> Control: cancel <4f58np$1i5@guava.epix.net> Date: 5 Feb 1996 16:01:55 GMT Message-Id: <4f59lj$2hi@guava.epix.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 87 Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 13:48:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12500; Mon, 5 Feb 96 13:48:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22755; Mon, 5 Feb 96 13:42:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22749; Mon, 5 Feb 96 13:42:16 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23734; Mon, 5 Feb 96 13:42:04 -0800 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 13:42:02 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: "Christopher W. Curtis" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE Feature Request In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 88 Hmmm... I just tested this by selecting three messages, including yours, then I typed ";ntaDuplicate" and pressed RETURN. As expected, the other two messages were de-selected, leaving yours selected... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 5 Feb 1996, Christopher W. Curtis wrote: > Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 16:26:17 -0500 (EST) > From: "Christopher W. Curtis" > X-Sender: ccurtis@frigate > To: David L Miller > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: PINE Feature Request > In-Reply-To: > Message-ID: > > I don't understand. I highlighted three messages, then searched for the word > "Duplicate", which existed in the text of the second message, but PINE > reported that the text was not found. > > -- > Christopher Curtis, Sun SysAdmin - http://www.ee.fit.edu/users/ccurtis > Florida Institute of Technology - telnet bofh.engr.wisc.edu 666 > Melbourne, Florida USA - Member, Team OS/2 > > > On Mon, 5 Feb 1996, David L Miller wrote: > > > Use the ";" select command of Pine 3.91. Make sure it is anabled in > > the Setup/Config screen first... > > I wrote: > > > I have yet another feature request for PINE. I haven't been > > > diddling in the newsgroup much lately, but a nice feature for > > > the next version of PINE would be a from-index search. I get > > > a lot of mail with totally irrelevant subjects, and sometimes > > > in a list of 100 messages, it's difficult to find the appro- > > > priate message. I'd like to see PINE have a feature, from the > > > folder index, where you can, say, hit 'w' for whereis, type > > > your keyword, then maybe hit "^W" to search INSIDE messages. > > > PINE could simply highlight ('select') the messages that apply, > > > or perhaps flag them "I"mportant or "K"eyed or something like > > > that. > [...] > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 14:03:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13392; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:03:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22976; Mon, 5 Feb 96 13:49:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from yacht.ee.fit.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22970; Mon, 5 Feb 96 13:49:10 -0800 Received: from frigate (frigate.ee.fit.edu) by ee.fit.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0/900117wah) id AA08194; Mon, 5 Feb 96 16:50:09 EST Received: by frigate (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA03308; Mon, 5 Feb 96 16:51:44 EST Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 16:51:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Christopher W. Curtis" X-Sender: ccurtis@frigate To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE Feature Request In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 89 On Mon, 5 Feb 1996, David L Miller wrote: > Hmmm... I just tested this by selecting three messages, including > yours, then I typed ";ntaDuplicate" and pressed RETURN. As expected, > the other two messages were de-selected, leaving yours selected... Ahh, yes. Very nice. I hadn't ever tried to "narrow" a selection before. That's an, uh, interesting method of searching for text... Thanks, -- Christopher Curtis, Sun SysAdmin - http://www.ee.fit.edu/users/ccurtis Florida Institute of Technology - telnet bofh.engr.wisc.edu 666 Melbourne, Florida USA - Member, Team OS/2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 14:08:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13752; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:08:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27497; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:00:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27491; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:00:53 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24242; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:00:19 -0800 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 14:00:17 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Dan McGuirk Cc: Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: feature suggestion In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 90 On Sun, 4 Feb 1996, Dan McGuirk wrote: > it'd be nice if, in the list of folders, I could see an overview of how > many messages are in each folder. I don't know if this is easy to do > within the IMAP protocol, but I have my mail filtered into a bunch of > different folders for different mailing lists, and it'd be nice to know > if there are any messages in each one without having to go through and > select them one at a time. > > We experimented with this some time ago and found that even a simple new-mail indicator was too slow to be worthwhile, at least in our environment. We are planning to try again when some of the new IMAP4 features are integrated into Pine though... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 14:25:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14585; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:25:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23873; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:16:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23867; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:16:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjZCo-00038VC; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Distribution List Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 19:06:08 -0500 Message-Id: References: <31135373.71D2@computernets.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <31135373.71D2@computernets.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 91 On Sat, 3 Feb 1996, Wendy Weathers wrote: > Does anybody know how many e-mail Id's can be put on a distribution list > in Pine does it have a limit? Or is the limit up to the Sys Admin? I don't think that Pine has an upper limit. (If it does, it is probably pretty large.) However, some mail transfer agents, such as some versions and/or configurations of Sendmail, may impost a limit in practice. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 14:25:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14633; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:25:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27994; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:16:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27988; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:16:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjZCp-00038WC; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: .Signature - Where is it?? Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 19:08:38 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4f1ot0$c76@sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4f1ot0$c76@sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 92 On 4 Feb 1996, JONATHAN CHARLES SUMMERS wrote: > I am using Pine on my Uni account. The setup suggests that as I haven't > defined my sugnature account it will use the default .signature - problem > is I can't find .signature. > > If I need to create it where would it go?? By default, the .signature file goes in your home directory. (You can get there by the cd command from the shell prompt.) Just edit it like any other text file. However, the bare ls (list) command does not show filenames beginning with a period. Use ls -l . Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 14:30:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14796; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:30:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23881; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:16:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23875; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:16:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjZCQ-00038UC; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Receipt/No Receipt Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 19:04:31 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <31135327.364B@computernets.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 93 On Sat, 3 Feb 1996, Wendy Weathers wrote: > Does anybody know if Pine has a receipt command? You can put in a request (it's not default.) Assuming you are using Pine 3.91, from the Main Menu go into Setup and Config. Scroll down to customized-headers and add Return-Receipt-To: . Of course, given the nature of Internet email, this does not guarantee that you will get a receipt, as not all receiving systems honor it. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 14:32:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14916; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:32:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28193; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:21:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28187; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:21:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjZEp-00038RC; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin Kelly Subject: Running Pine on X86 Solaris 2.5 Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 16:12:11 -0800 Message-Id: <31154B5B.6DAC@whitman.edu> References: <4e19jo$q6i@nntp.interaccess.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 94 We are running Solaris 2.5 on a Pentium PC. Does someone have Pine compiled to run on the X86 version of Solaris? Please reply to kelly@whitman.edu is possible. TIA Kevin Kelly From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 14:32:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14967; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:32:59 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24218; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:26:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24212; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:26:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjZIz-00038RC; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jowells@vt.edu (John Wells) Subject: Re: FTP site for PINE for PC Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 01:38:41 GMT Message-Id: <31155f6c.3748612@news.vt.edu> References: <4elca5$2eq@news4.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 95 On 2 Feb 1996 05:41:32 -0800, wmcqueen@oise.on.ca (William McQueen) wrote: >Could someone provide me with the ftp site for the latest version of PINE >for PC programme and documentation. And perhaps a personal response from >someone who uses it as a personal copy to read/reply offline. cac.washington.edu. Regards, John --- John Wells . http://www.vt.edu:10021/J/jowells CapAccess Pine 3.91-FP Project . Va Tech Honors Dept. WWW Project From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 14:33:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14984; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:33:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28343; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:26:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28337; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:26:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjZJ0-00038TC; Mon, 5 Feb 96 14:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mwfolsom@unm.edu (Mike Folsom) Subject: building pine 3.91 for an SGI - Date: 3 Feb 1996 17:59:03 -0700 Message-Id: <4f10cn$tck@callisto.unm.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 96 Folks - Wanted to build the latest release of Pine for an SGI, running Irix 5.3, and it ain't one of the options in the build script - Advice & suggestions appreciated - Michael ______________________________________________________________________________ M.W.Folsom/Biology/UNM/Albuquerque,NM~87131/505.277.2717/mwfolsom@mail.unm.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 15:50:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19433; Mon, 5 Feb 96 15:50:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26558; Mon, 5 Feb 96 15:36:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26552; Mon, 5 Feb 96 15:36:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjaO0-00038RC; Mon, 5 Feb 96 15:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: .Signature - Where is it?? Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 11:00:08 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4f1ot0$c76@sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 97 On Sun, 4 Feb 1996, Dov Siegman wrote: > Whoops, he means ls -a. (for hidden files. -l is for file attributes.) > > On Sun, 4 Feb 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > [...] You're right, of course. (Slip of the fingers -- and brain.) Sorry about that. (I usually use an alias, so I rarely enter ls -a and ls -l as such.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 20:01:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28340; Mon, 5 Feb 96 20:01:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06634; Mon, 5 Feb 96 19:57:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06626; Mon, 5 Feb 96 19:57:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjeVQ-00038RC; Mon, 5 Feb 96 19:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdersjan@inter.NL.net (T. Dersjant) Subject: adressbook - groups Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 21:08:13 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 98 Hi, For a magazine I've planned to work with a polling-group of about 150 people. I can put all the e-mail-adresses in one group in the adress-book. But if i mail the group, all the e-mail-adresses appear in the header of the message. Is there a way to post the whole group without the e-mail-adresses in the header? Thanks in advance for your response! -- *-------------------------------------------------------* | T. Dersjant - De Journalist (Journalism magazine) | | E-mail: T.Dersjant@nvj.nl (Amsterdam) | *-------------------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 20:08:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28500; Mon, 5 Feb 96 20:08:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02478; Mon, 5 Feb 96 20:02:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02472; Mon, 5 Feb 96 20:02:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjeXx-00038RC; Mon, 5 Feb 96 19:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Don McCullough Subject: Connecting Pine to Service Provider Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 21:30:48 +0000 Message-Id: <31167708.6665C98@fred.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 99 I am running Pine on a standalone Linux machine and want to use it to read mail on my internet service provider via ppp. I think I have the general network things set up since I can connect netscape and tin. I am having trouble on getting pine connected though. I have tried various combinations in the setup screen but need help to get the right combination. -- Don McCullough slowup@fred.net http://www.fred.net/slowup/home.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 5 22:05:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01277; Mon, 5 Feb 96 22:05:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08521; Mon, 5 Feb 96 22:01:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cadul.cadul.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08513; Mon, 5 Feb 96 22:01:17 -0800 Received: (from mlists@localhost) by cadul.cadul.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id GAA17997; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 06:31:07 GMT Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 06:31:07 +0000 (GMT) From: mailing lists To: Pine List Subject: Pine trashes Linux with use-current-dir Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 100 I have a problem with the use-current-dir option on my Linux system. When I load a file (^r in composer) and go to the file list (^t) the systems gets locked. I notice high activity on the harddrive that goes on entirely. Even the mnouse on the X11 Screen does no longer move. I must reset the pc. Any suggestion ?? ============================================================================== Phone: +49 731 937600 CAD-UL GmbH Fax: +49 731 9376027 Einstein Str. 37 BBS: +49 731 9376029 89077 Ulm Email: support@cadul.de Germany sales@cadul.de WWW: http://www.cadul.de ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 6 01:18:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04975; Tue, 6 Feb 96 01:18:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11092; Tue, 6 Feb 96 01:10:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11086; Tue, 6 Feb 96 01:10:31 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 6 Feb 1996 09:08:11 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA20095; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 09:09:21 GMT Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 09:09:20 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Mike Folsom Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: building pine 3.91 for an SGI - In-Reply-To: <4f10cn$tck@callisto.unm.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 101 Yes it is! (At least, it is in the Pine 3.91 kit _i_ pulled from ftp.cac.washington.edu some time back!) There's been an SGI build since Pine 3.07. You want "build sgi". Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 3 Feb 1996, Mike Folsom wrote: > Folks - > > Wanted to build the latest release of Pine for an SGI, running Irix 5.3, > and it ain't one of the options in the build script - > > Advice & suggestions appreciated - > > Michael > > > ______________________________________________________________________________ > M.W.Folsom/Biology/UNM/Albuquerque,NM~87131/505.277.2717/mwfolsom@mail.unm.edu > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 6 03:34:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07896; Tue, 6 Feb 96 03:34:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08331; Tue, 6 Feb 96 03:04:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08325; Tue, 6 Feb 96 03:04:49 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA09659 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 12:04:33 +0100 Received: (from bor@localhost) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA15066; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 14:04:11 +0300 (OET) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 14:04:09 +0300 (OET) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsmx1 Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Zachary H Leber Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: long delays when entering Newsgroups field In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 102 On Wed, 24 Jan 1996, Zachary H Leber wrote: > When I move my cursor through the Newsgroups: field in the header, > Pine freezes for about 30 seconds. I am using a remote NNTP server. > Is this normal? > -- It is normal. I have had the same problem. To get rid of it make shure, that option "news-post-without-validation" is set. greetings Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 6 06:58:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12666; Tue, 6 Feb 96 06:58:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11114; Tue, 6 Feb 96 06:28:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11108; Tue, 6 Feb 96 06:28:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjoJn-00038RC; Tue, 6 Feb 96 06:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: holmes@gorilla.nbn.com (Tim Holmes) Subject: Re: Control-C (Cancel)--Won't! Message-Id: References: <4f2n9m$quc@eaglecap.eosc.osshe.edu> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 20:57:12 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 103 Joseph Hart (jhart@emily.eosc.osshe.edu) wrote: : Hello All, : I am having a problem using Pine as a mail handler because the : Control-C command used to cancel an operation does not work. E.g., when I : am composing a message, but decide to cancel it, I cannot and cannot get : out of the message operation except by doing a Control-O to postpone the : message. I get this error no matter what kind of connection I make to the : mail server (direct, PPP, or dialup). Our system administrator has said : that a conflict is present because our Unix system interprets Control-C : as a reserved command within the server and will not execute it within : Pine. Any suggestions, Joe : jhart@eosc.osshe.edu Try ESC-ESC-C or ESC-ESC-O. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 6 07:24:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13401; Tue, 6 Feb 96 07:24:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15540; Tue, 6 Feb 96 06:58:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15534; Tue, 6 Feb 96 06:58:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjooC-00038TC; Tue, 6 Feb 96 06:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stan Mulder Subject: Possible to create a list of newsgroups for posting? Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 03:08:38 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 104 Using Pine 3.91, can I specify a list of newsgroups for posting? I'd like an abbreviated way of doing this rather than selecting each newsgroup each time. Email appreciated. -Stan- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stan Mulder -- mulder@csee.usf.edu http://grad.csee.usf.edu/Farhad/mulder/homepage.html Information Systems C/C++ -- University of South Florida, Lakeland I have two ears, and one mouth. I try to remember this ratio. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 6 10:06:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19698; Tue, 6 Feb 96 10:06:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15980; Tue, 6 Feb 96 09:53:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15974; Tue, 6 Feb 96 09:53:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjrVm-00038RC; Tue, 6 Feb 96 09:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mraaum@uio.no (Margrete Raaum) Subject: Re: unread read message Date: 6 Feb 1996 11:12:26 GMT Message-Id: <4f7d2q$2g0@ratatosk.uio.no> References: <4f4k2h$126@quest.ccsi.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 105 In article <4f4k2h$126@quest.ccsi.com>, "INTELLECTS INC." writes: >can you unread read message that is bring sack n Not very coherent from Intellects inc. but here goes: I suggest you go for a long walk and think of something else, that way you could achieve to _forget_ the read message, maybe not as good as unreading it, but it could suffice. :-D Margrete From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 6 10:13:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20005; Tue, 6 Feb 96 10:13:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20511; Tue, 6 Feb 96 10:03:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20505; Tue, 6 Feb 96 10:03:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjriv-00038RC; Tue, 6 Feb 96 10:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Simon Subject: Re: feature suggestion Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 10:37:45 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 106 How about something like: alias from 'from -d $HOME/incoming' alias fri 'echo "INBOX:";from INBOX | more' alias frin 'echo `fri | lines` "messages" | grep -v " 0"' I use that (and a bunch of others for my other incoming folders) to give me an overview of how many new messages I have each time I log on. ___ _ _a' /( <. # Simon Bradley: Knight Protector # / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _~~ _}\ \( _ ) # E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk # \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(,_(,)' # Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk # <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>, _>, # URL: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ # On 5 Feb 1996, David L Miller wrote: > it'd be nice if, in the list of folders, I could see an overview of how > many messages are in each folder. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 6 10:28:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20484; Tue, 6 Feb 96 10:28:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16492; Tue, 6 Feb 96 10:13:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16486; Tue, 6 Feb 96 10:13:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjrsi-00038TC; Tue, 6 Feb 96 10:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: doctore@okway.okstate.edu (Eric Stair) Subject: Configuring properly to receive mail Date: 6 Feb 1996 17:00:28 GMT Message-Id: <4f81fc$nj1@news.cis.okstate.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 107 Having problems configuring my pine account to receive mail, am able to send O.K. just not able to receive. Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 6 10:35:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20813; Tue, 6 Feb 96 10:35:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21083; Tue, 6 Feb 96 10:23:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21077; Tue, 6 Feb 96 10:23:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjs0x-00038RC; Tue, 6 Feb 96 10:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: black@csulb.edu (Matthew Black) Subject: Re: building pine 3.91 for an SGI - Date: 6 Feb 1996 17:00:02 GMT Message-Id: <4f81ei$nmn@garuda.csulb.edu> References: <4f10cn$tck@callisto.unm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 108 In article <4f10cn$tck@callisto.unm.edu>, mwfolsom@unm.edu says... >Wanted to build the latest release of Pine for an SGI, running Irix 5.3, >and it ain't one of the options in the build script - > PINE was by far the easiest shareware program I've built for Unix. I complied it under SGI IRIX 5.2 with the command below. The binary works fine even after upgrading my system to IRIX 5.3. Build pine with this command: ./build sgi EXTRADRIVERS=mbox The "EXTRADRIVES=mbox" flag is a special option used at my site. It says to copy all new incoming mail from the mail spool/server to a user's mbox file (INBOX folder) upon invocation of pine. This frees resources on the mail spool. I'd be interested to hear of other obscure compilation options as well as a better description of this option. --matt ============================================================================ matthew black, network analyst | opinions expressed herein are mine and california state university | may not reflect those of my employer cecs department | long beach, ca 90840 | email: black@csulb.edu =============================(c) 1996 by Matthew Black, all rights reserved= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 6 11:09:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22638; Tue, 6 Feb 96 11:09:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22220; Tue, 6 Feb 96 11:00:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [204.120.182.2] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22214; Tue, 6 Feb 96 11:00:54 -0800 Received: from bacon.apl.org ([204.120.182.48]) by apl.org (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA26594; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 12:56:28 -0600 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 12:56:28 -0600 Message-Id: <199602061856.MAA26594@apl.org> X-Sender: dbacon@apl.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dave Bacon Subject: Running Pine from Gopher Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 109 I am attempting to setup a gopher server to allow access to Pine from the main Gopher menu. I have had success using the "exec" type to run scripts from gopher, for example to display the calendar, but have not had much luck getting Pine to work from gopher. When I execute the Pine script from gopher I get the message: "Cannot connect to host (NULL), port 70. Hostname is unknown". The Pine script is named "runpine" and contains: #!/bin/sh /usr/bin/pine The .Link file contains: Numb=4 Name=Pine e-mail Path=exec:"":/bin/runpine Type=0 Port=+ host=+ Is it even possible to have Pine accessable from gopher? If so, could you offer some suggestions on how to get it to work? I would greatly appreciate any suggestions offered. As I am not with any Usergroups at this time please direct all responses to my email address listed below. Thank you. ________________________________________ Dave G. Bacon Automation Technician Outagamie Waupaca Library System 225 N. Oneida St., Appleton, WI 54911 414/832-6193(voice), 414/832-6422(FAX) dbacon@apl.org ________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 6 11:23:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23446; Tue, 6 Feb 96 11:23:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22610; Tue, 6 Feb 96 11:14:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22604; Tue, 6 Feb 96 11:14:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjslh-00038RC; Tue, 6 Feb 96 11:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jon@rainbow.rmii.com (Jon Trulson) Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 ? Date: 6 Feb 1996 18:15:06 GMT Message-Id: <4f85ra$s24@natasha.rmii.com> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 110 Alicher Alikhodjaev (cher@ns.phys.msu.su) wrote: : Hi, All! : Could anyone tell me when subj. get released ? : And what about international support in next release? I'd be interested in this too. I read the 3.91 future improvements section, and I'd really really like a mailer that can handle pgp enc/dec/signature etc... However, judging by the date on their ftp archive, pine hasn't been updated in over a year... Is anyone still developing it? : Regards : Cher. : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- : http://www.phys.msu.su/team/cher.html ! Physics Department : Phone: +7 (095) 939-1114 ! Moscow State University : Fax: +7 (095) 932-8822 ! Russia -- Jon Trulson Inet: jon@radscan.com Patent Pending From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 6 11:31:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23834; Tue, 6 Feb 96 11:31:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17727; Tue, 6 Feb 96 10:54:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17715; Tue, 6 Feb 96 10:53:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjsWC-00038RC; Tue, 6 Feb 96 10:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mraaum@uio.no (Margrete Raaum) Subject: Re: Pine FAQ and Procmail Date: 6 Feb 1996 11:17:20 GMT Message-Id: <4f7dc0$2g0@ratatosk.uio.no> References: <4f5d25$gqo@service.polymtl.ca> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 111 In article <4f5d25$gqo@service.polymtl.ca>, jax@info.polymtl.ca (Dinh Thai-Nghia) writes: >Hi everyone, > >I have been lurking around this group for the last month or so but failed >to see a FAQ. Is there such a thing? And if so, where can I find it? http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/faq/index.html Mrg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 6 12:04:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25374; Tue, 6 Feb 96 12:04:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19121; Tue, 6 Feb 96 11:39:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19115; Tue, 6 Feb 96 11:39:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjtAS-00038RC; Tue, 6 Feb 96 11:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhd@Radix.Net (Joseph Davidson) Subject: Convert addresses between Pine and Eudora Date: 5 Feb 1996 23:39:53 GMT Message-Id: <4f64g9$20q@news1.radix.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 112 I have two Perl scripts. http://www.interguru.com/pineudo.html will convert your Pine addressbook to Eudora aliases. http://www.interguru.com/eudopine.html will convert your Eudora aliases to a Pine addressbook. Please read the notes, and let me know if it is not working. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Davidson Ph.D. InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting Computer and Network Consulting, Win 95 and Mac 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 6 13:09:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29234; Tue, 6 Feb 96 13:09:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24933; Tue, 6 Feb 96 12:39:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24927; Tue, 6 Feb 96 12:39:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tju9A-00038UC; Tue, 6 Feb 96 12:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sam O Subject: procomm and pine text upload Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 10:41:22 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 113 i usse pine and a sun unix machine i want to know how to send a file from my pc to pine by giving the command page up and sending the file ascii .. Now when i do this i get all sorts of unreadable info sent. let me show you now..... To : ALL@WW NORTH NEW JERSEY USA 10 METER NET Sundays ---- 1PM DST ---- 1700 UTC Freq. ---- 28.357 QRM - 28.362 QSLs and 10X exchanges Informal Roundtable DX and Out of State Invited to Checkin Sponsored by Sussex County Amateur Radio Club NCOs: ---- N2TTT, KB2IZB, N2KPB, KB2SYD YES 10 METERS IS AN ACTIVE BAND 73 to ALL ---- Bob N2TTT@N2ERH.#NWNJ.NJ.USA.NA ======pppppp End of message # 46295 pppppp====== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 6 13:51:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01067; Tue, 6 Feb 96 13:51:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22722; Tue, 6 Feb 96 13:43:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mrinet.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22716; Tue, 6 Feb 96 13:43:10 -0800 Received: from richmond.UUCP (nuucp@localhost) by mrinet.com (8.6.8.1/SCA-6.6) with UUCP id VAA00582 for cac.washington.edu!pine-info; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 21:08:35 GMT Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 15:37:46 -0500 (EST) From: edward j christina To: Andrej Borsenkow Cc: Zachary H Leber , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: long delays when entering Newsgroups field In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 114 On Tue, 6 Feb 1996, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jan 1996, Zachary H Leber wrote: > > > When I move my cursor through the Newsgroups: field in the header, > > Pine freezes for about 30 seconds. I am using a remote NNTP server. > > Is this normal? > > -- > > It is normal. I have had the same problem. To get rid of it make shure, > that option "news-post-without-validation" is set. > > greetings > > Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 > SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 > > NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > hello, how do you use pine to read newsgroups????? tia Ed Christina From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 6 13:51:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01095; Tue, 6 Feb 96 13:51:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22746; Tue, 6 Feb 96 13:44:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22740; Tue, 6 Feb 96 13:44:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjv8o-00038RC; Tue, 6 Feb 96 13:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kchchang@pegasus.rutgers.edu (Howard Chang) Subject: Suppored TERM Date: 6 Feb 1996 15:20:42 -0500 Message-Id: <4f8d6q$c3l@pegasus.rutgers.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 115 Does anyone have a list of the supported TERM? I normally jump between vt100 and hp (or other TERMS supported by HP). and Pine doesn't seem to be able to recognize keystrokes corectly when I switch to TERM=hp. oh, BTW, I run this on HP-UX 9.0.. Thanx in advance From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 6 14:33:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03550; Tue, 6 Feb 96 14:33:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23690; Tue, 6 Feb 96 14:22:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23684; Tue, 6 Feb 96 14:22:34 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08466; Tue, 6 Feb 96 14:22:24 -0800 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 14:22:21 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Jon Trulson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 ? In-Reply-To: <4f85ra$s24@natasha.rmii.com> Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 116 On 6 Feb 1996, Jon Trulson wrote: > Alicher Alikhodjaev (cher@ns.phys.msu.su) wrote: > : Hi, All! > : Could anyone tell me when subj. get released ? > : And what about international support in next release? > > I'd be interested in this too. I read the 3.91 future > improvements section, and I'd really really like a mailer that can > handle pgp enc/dec/signature etc... However, judging by the date on > their ftp archive, pine hasn't been updated in over a year... Is > anyone still developing it? > We're still working on it, but we got up such a good head of steam that it's been hard to put the brakes on to get a new release out ;) |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 6 15:26:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05764; Tue, 6 Feb 96 15:26:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29312; Tue, 6 Feb 96 15:19:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29306; Tue, 6 Feb 96 15:19:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjwcf-00038RC; Tue, 6 Feb 96 15:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Anonymous Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 17:36:45 +0000 Message-Id: References: <4epc9n$522@newshound.csrv.uidaho.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4epc9n$522@newshound.csrv.uidaho.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 117 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 1 Feb 1996, Gary Love wrote: > An option that I find fun is to send anonymous mail from Netscape. Be careful that you don't violate your site's policy on appropriate use. > [Instructions on naive mail forgery] > The connection that it has to you at all is that > if the person chooses to see the rich header they can see your domain. > But, there is no way that they can trace your name or anything. At the request of my bosses, I recently did trace exactly such a forgery to a particular user at our site. The user has been temporary kicked off the system and may be so permanently. The punishment (not my decision) may be harsh, but it is not uncommon. Playing with the from line is not the way to make email/news anonymous. And even joke forgeries get treated strictly. > Nifty Netscape tricks. I don't think so. The forger no longer thinks so. - -jeff goldberg Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "An `alternative paradigm' is the first refuge of the incompetent" --LM -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i Comment: Processed by mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAgUBMRTunBu6nIqxqP+5AQGxnwP/dykOdgQ7zJwff3eqVBCxnJ3BSkAxlnQ9 EyQWF0uzoQvkZRMtAtA+wD2v+XBuvlhPZtuFFp0Nixvy+lvnr9vMZm3UIm2U/lqY 7/sr9J7oXs2s1gMUXD2j1md2x4G5U1clW1wIoLVLqPokSe36ltGgUf4SFJsfYReL 66d3wZpscRk= =LUtg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 6 16:56:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09870; Tue, 6 Feb 96 16:56:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28215; Tue, 6 Feb 96 16:49:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28209; Tue, 6 Feb 96 16:49:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjy20-00038RC; Tue, 6 Feb 96 16:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: BOFH Subject: Re: "Receipt" function of Pine? Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 10:58:17 +1300 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 118 > > On Wed, 24 Jan 1996, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: > > > Nope ... cannot be done ... see paul bartlett's (sp?) response ... > > > ... I want PINE to assure me that > > > not only did you recieve my mail, but you opened it, understood it, and > > > will reply to me before 10 a.m. yesterday. G'Day. > > Yup, Marsha, I know that ... my post was a (stupid?) tounge-in-cheek > response to a guy who wanted to know if someone had actually read his > email, and I wuz only trying to point out that that is impossible. BYE. Pegasus mail does. You get a receipt when the mail is read, although I'm not sure if this is purely a pegasus to pegasus thing. Shannon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 6 18:11:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13082; Tue, 6 Feb 96 18:11:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03923; Tue, 6 Feb 96 18:04:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03917; Tue, 6 Feb 96 18:04:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tjzDh-00038RC; Tue, 6 Feb 96 18:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@guava.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: READONLY files Date: 25 Jan 1996 18:24:52 GMT Message-Id: <4e8htk$m2h@guava.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 119 Pierre Joris (joris@csc.albany.edu) wrote: : Got myself somehow into a READONLY situation in my pine INBOX & can't : find the switch to get out... help wld be appreciated... pierre It could mean that you have 2 copies of PINE open, maybe ^Z suspended, then re-opened by typing 'pine' rather than typing 'fg' to bring the suspended pine back to the foreground ... Only a thought ... Maybe someone else has another idea? BYE. /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 6 21:37:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18186; Tue, 6 Feb 96 21:37:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03192; Tue, 6 Feb 96 21:28:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hub.cs.jmu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03186; Tue, 6 Feb 96 21:28:39 -0800 Received: from sys11.cs.jmu.edu by hub.cs.jmu.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA05128; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 00:28:30 -0500 Received: by sys11.cs.jmu.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA22342; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 00:24:27 +0500 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 00:24:26 -0500 (EST) From: Heinz-Christian Kosfeld X-Sender: kosfelhx@sys11 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine Mail on PC Platform? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 442 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 120 Hello! I am looking for Pine Mail to run on an IBM compatible PC or any other solution to archive my emails for future reference. The Pine Mail view of emails with date etc. is what I like to keep. Also, I want to avoid to extract every single email, that I received or have sent, as it is time consuming and I would loose the capability of browsing emails using date or subject. Thank you in advance for any answer. Heinz-Christian From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 00:43:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22888; Wed, 7 Feb 96 00:43:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06156; Wed, 7 Feb 96 00:35:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06150; Wed, 7 Feb 96 00:35:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tk5Hc-00038RC; Wed, 7 Feb 96 00:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: michielp@atf.cmg.nl (Michiel Perdeck) Subject: startup with INBOX Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 20:53:49 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 121 (How) can I start PINE with the INBOX folder opened immediately, without having to go thru menu and selection? Thanks for any tips, Michiel -- Michiel Perdeck (Michiel.Perdeck@cmg.nl) CMG Finance div. AT From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 01:12:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23666; Wed, 7 Feb 96 01:12:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10606; Wed, 7 Feb 96 01:05:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10600; Wed, 7 Feb 96 01:05:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tk5nl-00038RC; Wed, 7 Feb 96 01:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul Kronfield Date: 7 Feb 1996 07:26:53 GMT Message-Id: Control: cancel <31165AE2.6FF6@ghgcorp.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <31165AE2.6FF6@ghgcorp.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 122 EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by jem@xpat.com. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19960207.08 for further details From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 07:17:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04156; Wed, 7 Feb 96 07:17:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15510; Wed, 7 Feb 96 06:47:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cambridge.village.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15504; Wed, 7 Feb 96 06:47:28 -0800 Received: by cambridge.village.com; id AA08958; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 09:47:23 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 09:47:23 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Dawson Subject: Not Showing Whole Distribution List on Outgoing E-mail To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 123 I frequently send e-mail to a distribution list with sixty addresses on it. So the first dozen or so lines of the message are taken up with addresses. Is there any way to avoid this clumsiness by just showing the name I have given the list in the "To:" line, instead of the whole list? TIA Michael Dawson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 07:18:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04202; Wed, 7 Feb 96 07:18:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15561; Wed, 7 Feb 96 06:50:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cambridge.village.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15553; Wed, 7 Feb 96 06:50:06 -0800 Received: by cambridge.village.com; id AA09017; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 09:50:05 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 09:50:04 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Dawson Subject: My Pine Version To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 124 In my e-mail of two mimutes ago about not showing the whole distribution list on an outgoing message, I should add that my PINE version is 3.89 Michael Dawson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 10:19:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13193; Wed, 7 Feb 96 10:19:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15860; Wed, 7 Feb 96 09:56:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15854; Wed, 7 Feb 96 09:56:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkE4L-00038TC; Wed, 7 Feb 96 09:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Wendy Weathers Subject: Distribution List Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 04:22:11 -0800 Message-Id: <31135373.71D2@computernets.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 125 Does anybody know how many e-mail Id's can be put on a distribution list in Pine does it have a limit? Or is the limit up to the Sys Admin? -- Wendy Weathers Computernets P.O. Box 370 Livermore, Ca 94551-0370 510.449.1982 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 10:50:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14860; Wed, 7 Feb 96 10:50:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16959; Wed, 7 Feb 96 10:32:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16933; Wed, 7 Feb 96 10:32:24 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:11:22 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id QAA07767; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:11:38 GMT Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:11:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Michael Dawson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Not Showing Whole Distribution List on Outgoing E-mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 126 [This has been asked and answered many times, and so should be in the archives of this mailing list: check the Pine Information Centre at http://www.cac.washington.edu/ for further information.] 1. Start composing message. 2. Put cursor on a header line. 3. Type ^R (Rich Header). 4. Put recipient list (or addressbook nickname) in the "Bcc" field. 5. Fill in the "To" field either with your own e-mail address, or something along the lines of: Subscribers:; 6. Send message. Recipients will not get the whopping great list of recipients (if their mail delivery software is configured properly!) Note Step 5! This is to avoid problems with some more demented mail delivery programs. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 7 Feb 1996, Michael Dawson wrote: > > I frequently send e-mail to a distribution list with sixty addresses on > it. So the first dozen or so lines of the message are taken up with > addresses. > > Is there any way to avoid this clumsiness by just showing the name I have > given the list in the "To:" line, instead of the whole list? > > TIA > > Michael Dawson > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 10:52:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14966; Wed, 7 Feb 96 10:52:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16980; Wed, 7 Feb 96 10:33:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16956; Wed, 7 Feb 96 10:32:57 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:21:55 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA17225; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 12:30:43 GMT Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 12:30:43 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Dave Bacon Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Running Pine from Gopher In-Reply-To: <199602061856.MAA26594@apl.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 127 I suspect you're onto a loser here... Gopher (and the Web) are connectionless protocols (if that's the phrase I'm after). That is, a request comes in, the information is returned, and the connection broken. CGI scripts are programs that are run in response to a request to obtain and output (rturn) the information. They finish and the connection closes. However Pine is very much an *interactive* program. It expects you to maintain an (interactive) connection and type commands at it to open mailboxes, move through lists, etc. I don't know of any way of getting this to work with Gopher/Web servers (though I am willing to be proved wrong!). If you are hoping to get uor mail folder readable on the Web you could try looking at a converter tool such as HyperMail. This makes an HTMLified copy of the messages in a mail folder. However these are "read-only" ... you cannot delete them , refile them into other folders, etc. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 6 Feb 1996, Dave Bacon wrote: > I am attempting to setup a gopher server to allow access to Pine from the > main Gopher menu. I have had success using the "exec" type to run scripts > from gopher, for example to display the calendar, but have not had much luck > getting Pine to work from gopher. > > When I execute the Pine script from gopher I get the message: "Cannot > connect to host (NULL), port 70. Hostname is unknown". > > The Pine script is named "runpine" and contains: > > #!/bin/sh > /usr/bin/pine > > The .Link file contains: > > Numb=4 > Name=Pine e-mail > Path=exec:"":/bin/runpine > Type=0 > Port=+ > host=+ > > Is it even possible to have Pine accessable from gopher? If so, could you > offer some suggestions on how to get it to work? I would greatly appreciate > any suggestions offered. > > As I am not with any Usergroups at this time please direct all responses to > my email address listed below. Thank you. > ________________________________________ > > Dave G. Bacon > Automation Technician > Outagamie Waupaca Library System > 225 N. Oneida St., Appleton, WI 54911 > 414/832-6193(voice), 414/832-6422(FAX) > dbacon@apl.org > ________________________________________ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 10:59:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15388; Wed, 7 Feb 96 10:59:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21521; Wed, 7 Feb 96 10:36:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21515; Wed, 7 Feb 96 10:36:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkEga-00038RC; Wed, 7 Feb 96 10:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Richard P. O'Sullivan" Subject: Re: Spell checking for PINE ?? Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 08:17:23 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 128 On Wed, 7 Feb 1996, Eric von Graevenitz wrote: > Our site currently uses both ELM and PINE. Pine appears to be overwelmingly > easier to use and more robust except for spelling. > > Elm can be interfaced to Ispell, but has anyone had experience integrating > Ispell with PINE? > > Also, is there a better email spell checker than Ispell? I use ispell on Amiga Pine. You can install it as the "Alternative Editor"; keyboard command ^_. Rick __ __ __ __ __ __ ---------------------__/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\__----------------------- Altofirma WebWords /\_\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\_\ Richard P. O'Sullivan http://www.aww.com/ \/_/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/_/ rosully@aww.com --------------------- \/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/ ----------------------- Cookie De Jour -------------- 'He whom love touches not, walks in darkness.' -- Plato From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 11:23:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16856; Wed, 7 Feb 96 11:23:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17751; Wed, 7 Feb 96 10:56:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17745; Wed, 7 Feb 96 10:56:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkEzz-00038RC; Wed, 7 Feb 96 10:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sintlant@owlnet.rice.edu Subject: Pine for OS/2- creating Local Folders Date: 7 Feb 1996 17:28:40 GMT Message-Id: <4fang9$nj3@larry.rice.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 129 I'm running pine for os/2 from my pc, and i'm trying to get it to read/ write to folders on my hard drive, in particular reading from an INBOX.ndx file created with lampop. Is this even possible? If its not, how do i create savemail, sentmail, etc. folders on my hard drive that pine will use. I haven't been able to figure out the syntax from the help files or any of the documentation that i've found. Thanks, Michael Sorensen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 12:24:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20411; Wed, 7 Feb 96 12:24:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24498; Wed, 7 Feb 96 12:06:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24492; Wed, 7 Feb 96 12:06:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkG7b-00038TC; Wed, 7 Feb 96 12:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin M Bealer Subject: Re: long delays when entering Newsgroups field Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 23:38:29 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 130 On 6 Feb 1996, edward j christina wrote: > On Tue, 6 Feb 1996, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > > > On Wed, 24 Jan 1996, Zachary H Leber wrote: > > > > > When I move my cursor through the Newsgroups: field in the header, > > > Pine freezes for about 30 seconds. I am using a remote NNTP server. > > > Is this normal? > > > -- > > > > It is normal. I have had the same problem. To get rid of it make shure, > > that option "news-post-without-validation" is set. > > > > greetings > > > > Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 > > SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 > > > > NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks, it works! > hello, > how do you use pine to read newsgroups????? > tia > Ed Christina > I can't remember except that you need to go to Main Menu/Setup/Config and put your newsfeed name (ie mine is news.psu.edu) into the newsfeed section. You have to leave and return I believe. PS I am using 3.9.1. _____Running_Debian_Linux__(stable)__version_1.2.13___________________ \ "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist | the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -- H.L. Mencken | Kevin Bealer Q: Would you like to see the WINE list? kmb203@psu.edu A: What's on it, anything expensive? | Q: No, just Solitaire and MineSweeper for now, but the WINE is free. | ______________________________________________________________________/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 12:59:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22297; Wed, 7 Feb 96 12:59:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25318; Wed, 7 Feb 96 12:33:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25312; Wed, 7 Feb 96 12:33:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkGSK-00038RC; Wed, 7 Feb 96 12:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Andrews Subject: Making Pine use full height and width of screen Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 11:21:03 -0800 Message-Id: <3118FB9F.AC4@biology.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 131 I use UNIX Pine for two different accounts. With one of them Pine makes full use of the screen but with the other one (my main mail) it always uses the same 24x80 screen size even if I make my screen height and width larger. Anyone know how I can fix this? Please email me at andrews@biology.ucla.edu. Thanks, Peter From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 13:22:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23868; Wed, 7 Feb 96 13:22:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26558; Wed, 7 Feb 96 13:06:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shorter.wilberforce.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26552; Wed, 7 Feb 96 13:06:55 -0800 Received: by shorter.wilberforce.edu (5.65/25-eef) id AA02153; Wed, 7 Feb 96 16:03:13 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 96 16:03:13 -0500 From: Rick Laskey Wilberforce Univ Computing ext 753 Message-Id: <9602072103.AA02153@shorter.wilberforce.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Build Pine/Pico for SV4 Cc: rlaskey@shorter.wilberforce.edu Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 132 We here at Wilberforce University have an NCR 3000 Unix box running System V Release 4. I have tried to build Pine and Pico using the build sv4 command but get several error messages: ./osdep.h: 44: Can't find include file stdlib.h /usr/include/sys/byteorder.h: 110: extra tokens (ignored) after directive os_sv4.c: 50: Can't find include file regexpr.h os_sv4.c: 53: Can't find include file shadow.h *** Error code 1 ... osdep.c: 71: Can't find include file termios.h *** Error code 1 Stop. ... ./../c-client/osdep.h: 44: Can't find include file stdlib.h *** Error code 1 Stop. When I run build -n sv4 I get the following error message at the end: Make: Don't know how to make ../pico/libpico.a. Stop. Can any of you Pine gurus out there help me? Rick Laskey University Computing Services Wilberforce University Wilberforce OH 45384 rlaskey@shorter.wilberforce.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 13:31:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24208; Wed, 7 Feb 96 13:31:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26830; Wed, 7 Feb 96 13:17:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26824; Wed, 7 Feb 96 13:17:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkHCj-00038RC; Wed, 7 Feb 96 13:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Pierre DIXON Subject: Automatic export to a specific directory Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 10:40:55 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 133 Hello ! I don't know how to send automatically the files I export from the=20 NewsGroups to a specific directory (i.e. "News"). In the Setup menu, I wrote : news-collection =3D News *{news.cict.fr/nntp}[] but when I "export" a file, it goes to the Home directory, not the News=20 directory... Can you help me ? Thanks. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ P i e r r e D I X O N =09=09=09 =B0 MAISEL I.N.T. Studio 2123 | | |\ /| Tel : (+33) (1) 60 76 64 91 5, rue Charles Fourier | | | \ / | Fax : (+33) (1) 60 77 65 29 91011 EVRY Cedex / FRANCE <__| | | V | E-Mail : dixon@int-evry.fr From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 13:38:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24695; Wed, 7 Feb 96 13:38:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22213; Wed, 7 Feb 96 13:23:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay5.UU.NET by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22197; Wed, 7 Feb 96 13:23:10 -0800 Received: from uucp1.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP id QQabyb26568; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:23:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from akoo.UUCP by uucp1.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:23:09 -0500 From: Superuser X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How hard would it be ... Date: Wed, 7 Feb 96 16:18:07 EST Message-Id: <9602071618.aa10751@akoo.akoo.uucp> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 134 I downloaded pine.tar.Z , uncompressed and un-tarred it. We have one SCO-Unix box with internet mail accessed via uucp on the uunet service. We would like to use pine as an alternative to the old-fashioned unix mail. All I want is to compile pine on SCO to get a similar look & feel as the telnet demo I saw on the internet. (We don't use tcp/ip presently) How hard would it be to do this? I tried 'make sco' and various things don't compile. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 14:13:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26339; Wed, 7 Feb 96 14:13:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23138; Wed, 7 Feb 96 13:52:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23131; Wed, 7 Feb 96 13:52:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkHid-00038RC; Wed, 7 Feb 96 13:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mihai T. LAZARESCU" Subject: Re: Elm-like exit from pine? Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 19:45:51 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4f8bp7$s24@natasha.rmii.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 135 On 6 Feb 1996, Jon Trulson wrote: [...] > When I exit pine I'd like these things to happen: if I've > deleted messages, then delete them without asking (I have that option > set). If I have messages that are not deleted in my INBOX, I want > them to stay there when I exit regardless of whether or not I've read > them, saved them, laughed at them, or whatever, nor do I want to be > prompted about their disposition. Why is this so difficult to do? > (Elm does this just fine). [...] I have just the auto-move-read-msgs option unchecked and that seems to be enough. I can send you my config file (~/.pinerc) if you think it helps. Mihai -- Mihai Teodor LAZARESCU Ph.D. student Voice: + 39 (0)11 564 5128 | Polytechnic of Turin Fax : + 39 (0)11 564 4134 | Electronics & Communic. Department email: lazarescu@polito.it | Corso Duca degli Abruzzi, 24 http://ccmserv.polito.it/mihai/ | 10129 TORINO, ITALY From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 14:56:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28184; Wed, 7 Feb 96 14:56:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29393; Wed, 7 Feb 96 14:42:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29387; Wed, 7 Feb 96 14:42:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkIXh-00038UC; Wed, 7 Feb 96 14:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: evon@schoolnet.carleton.ca (Eric von Graevenitz) Subject: Spell checking for PINE ?? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 14:59:00 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 136 Our site currently uses both ELM and PINE. Pine appears to be overwelmingly easier to use and more robust except for spelling. Elm can be interfaced to Ispell, but has anyone had experience integrating Ispell with PINE? Also, is there a better email spell checker than Ispell? thanks muchly, Eric von Graevenitz evon@ingenia.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 16:42:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03947; Wed, 7 Feb 96 16:42:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02541; Wed, 7 Feb 96 16:33:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet2.afn.org by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02532; Wed, 7 Feb 96 16:33:11 -0800 Received: by freenet2.freenet.ufl.edu (8.6.12/4.11) id TAA28977; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 19:32:39 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 19:32:39 -0500 (EST) From: Fredrick Scott West X-Sender: afn20289@freenet2.freenet.ufl.edu To: Rick Troxel Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "Receipt" function of Pine? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 137 You can't insert headings directly into a mail message, you can to it by adjusting Pine Config.However,that feature is already enabled,so all you to do is hit Control-R when in the header of a message you composing,and for the header line that says "Return-R;" insert your email address. On Tue, 23 Jan 1996, Rick Troxel wrote: > In article <4dul7c$cc@www.gnofn.org> bjb01@www.gnofn.org (Brian J > Barbazon) writes: > > Some time ago I read that the Pine e-mail system has a "receipt" function > by which a system-generated message is automatically sent back to the > sender when the e-mail in question is "opened". > > Nope; but you could ask your correspondent to reply in order to confirm > receipt. > > The closest to what you describe is the Return-Receipt header described > in other posts. Note that this (if you get one) confirms _delivery_ on > the remote system, rather than having been accessed by the recipient. > > Regards, > -- > Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4824 > /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his > heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and > the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 16:43:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04007; Wed, 7 Feb 96 16:43:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02722; Wed, 7 Feb 96 16:37:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02716; Wed, 7 Feb 96 16:37:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkKKO-00038RC; Wed, 7 Feb 96 16:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Jagdis Subject: Re: bugs-address config ignored? Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 09:22:24 GMT Message-Id: References: <4f88hm$gah@ornette.uchicago.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 138 Chris Koenigsberg said >It seems that although the documentation (doc/tech-notes) indicates >that "bugs-address" is read from the system-wide config file, actually >this never takes place anywhere in the Pine source code? > >So bug reports are always sent to the compiled-in default address, >never to the one set in the system-wide config file? There are some "config" values that are marked internally as not being user modifiable. This makes sense but, in my opinion, they should be modifiable from the global pine.conf.fixed. The patch is simple: --- pine/init.c 1995/07/25 09:22:54 1.1 +++ pine/init.c 1995/10/02 16:29:17 1.2 @@ -2089,7 +2089,7 @@ } /*--- Var is not user controlled, leave it alone for back compat ---*/ - if(!v->is_user){ + if(!v->is_user && which_vars != ParseFixed){ if(which_vars == ParseLocal){ pline->is_var = 0; pline->line = cpystr(line); -- Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Voice: +44 1734 890403 Fax: +44 1734 891192 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 17:59:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07125; Wed, 7 Feb 96 17:59:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04397; Wed, 7 Feb 96 17:54:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cambridge.village.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04391; Wed, 7 Feb 96 17:54:22 -0800 Received: by cambridge.village.com; id AA17440; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 20:54:09 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 20:54:09 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Dawson Subject: Re: Not Showing Whole Distribution List on Outgoing E-mail To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 139 Thank you for your clear instructions. I couldn't even find Pine in the U of W home page. What a jungle! I haven't tried it yet, but next time I will, I'm grateful. Michael Dawson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 18:17:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07607; Wed, 7 Feb 96 18:17:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00171; Wed, 7 Feb 96 18:10:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from darkwing.uoregon.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00165; Wed, 7 Feb 96 18:10:31 -0800 Received: (from xudongf@localhost) by darkwing.uoregon.edu (8.7.3/8.7.1) id SAA18590; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 18:10:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 18:10:21 -0800 (PST) From: Xudong Fan To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 140 Dear Sir: I received a message in MIME format. Could you please tell me how to decode it. Just tell me which commands I should use. Thanks Fan Xudong From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 18:20:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07681; Wed, 7 Feb 96 18:20:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00213; Wed, 7 Feb 96 18:12:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00207; Wed, 7 Feb 96 18:12:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkLpl-00038RC; Wed, 7 Feb 96 18:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Gregory J. Hickel" Subject: Re: Filter () function? Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 20:51:10 -0600 Message-Id: References: <4epdi0$522@newshound.csrv.uidaho.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4epdi0$522@newshound.csrv.uidaho.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 141 On 1 Feb 1996, Gary Love wrote: > Hello, > Here's my problem. I belong to several listserves and I get about 20 > postings a day relating to my work which I don't like to read until I get > to work. I heard a mention about a filter() function in another message > about a .forward. I know about .forwards, .signatures, .cshrcs, .logins, > and soforth. But I don't have any experience with programming. > So try to be specific. > Gary > please send e-mail: > glove@elwha.evergreen.edu Sound like you need a program called procmail. Pine does not filter mail but this program will filter it for you before it gets to pine. Greg Hickel gjhickel@server.wulaw.wustl.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 18:35:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08219; Wed, 7 Feb 96 18:35:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04827; Wed, 7 Feb 96 18:22:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04821; Wed, 7 Feb 96 18:22:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkLwW-00038TC; Wed, 7 Feb 96 18:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Gregory J. Hickel" Subject: Re: .Signature - Where is it?? Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 20:55:54 -0600 Message-Id: References: <4f1ot0$c76@sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4f1ot0$c76@sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 142 On 4 Feb 1996, JONATHAN CHARLES SUMMERS wrote: > I am using Pine on my Uni account. The setup suggests that as I haven't > defined my sugnature account it will use the default .signature - problem > is I can't find .signature. > > If I need to create it where would it go?? You won't see the file in your directory if you use "ls". To see the files preceeded by a "." you must use "ls -a". As for the ".signature" file it just goes in your home directory. Hope this is helpful. Greg Hickel gjhickel@server.wulaw.wustl.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 18:42:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08334; Wed, 7 Feb 96 18:42:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00416; Wed, 7 Feb 96 18:27:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00410; Wed, 7 Feb 96 18:27:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkM2h-00038RC; Wed, 7 Feb 96 18:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Gregory J. Hickel" Subject: Help, uuencode from Pine?!?! Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 21:03:36 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 143 Is there ANY way to get Pine to send attachments uuencoded instead of MIME encoded? Thanks-- Greg Hickel gjhickel@server.wulaw.wustl.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 18:55:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08833; Wed, 7 Feb 96 18:55:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05292; Wed, 7 Feb 96 18:47:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05286; Wed, 7 Feb 96 18:47:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkMNd-00038RC; Wed, 7 Feb 96 18:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Richard P. O'Sullivan" Subject: Too many open files Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 07:19:18 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 144 While using Pine for extended periods, I receive this message: Unable to create TCP socket: Too many open files This occurs when I've opened and closed many newsgroups and sent / received several mail messages. I run Pine 24 hours a day. Since AmigaDOS places no limits on the number of open files, I believe Pine must have a MAX_FILES limit. Does Pine properly close files streams that it has opened? Is this an issue for 3.92? If I quit and resume Pine, then all is well. Rick __ __ __ __ __ __ ---------------------__/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\__----------------------- Altofirma WebWords /\_\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\_\ Richard P. O'Sullivan http://www.aww.com/ \/_/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/_/ rosully@aww.com --------------------- \/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/ ----------------------- Cookie De Jour -------------- It was Penguin lust... at its ugliest. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 19:44:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10296; Wed, 7 Feb 96 19:44:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01625; Wed, 7 Feb 96 19:37:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01619; Wed, 7 Feb 96 19:37:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkN6R-00038RC; Wed, 7 Feb 96 19:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gilberto Jose W Teixeira Subject: Re: Printing in OS/2 Pine Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 08:21:36 -0300 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 145 Hi everibody I just can't print any mail message using the command "of the PINE. I am connected via a telephone line to my niversity (UNIX) and my local printer is an HP 560. The only alternative I got succesfully was transferig the page (only page by page) to the clipboard and then to the NOTEPAD and printing! Tha is a long way! Anibody can help me?Gilberto teixeira MAIL: gjwteixe@spider.usp.br From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 22:24:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14388; Wed, 7 Feb 96 22:24:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04266; Wed, 7 Feb 96 22:21:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cadul.cadul.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04254; Wed, 7 Feb 96 22:21:22 -0800 Received: (from mlists@localhost) by cadul.cadul.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id GAA20612; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 06:51:57 GMT Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 06:51:56 +0000 (GMT) From: mailing lists To: Pine List Subject: unsubscribe Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 146 unsubscribe ============================================================================== Phone: +49 731 937600 CAD-UL GmbH Fax: +49 731 9376027 Einstein Str. 37 BBS: +49 731 9376029 89077 Ulm Email: support@cadul.de Germany sales@cadul.de WWW: http://www.cadul.de ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 23:32:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15838; Wed, 7 Feb 96 23:32:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05170; Wed, 7 Feb 96 23:28:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05164; Wed, 7 Feb 96 23:28:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkQiG-00038TC; Wed, 7 Feb 96 23:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: JOHN R VIOLETTE Subject: pine, pgp and '|' command problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <31179B48.66D@on.bell.ca> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 18:17:44 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 147 In order to save having to 'Reply' or 'Forward' to check a signature or decrypt a message, I have found that if you enable the pipe '|' command and pipe the message to pgp -f it will check the signature OK. But, if the message is encrypted it appears as though nothing is happening in pine but pgp is actually prompting you for your passcode. If you enter it, it works; you then see all the dialog that you would normally see when you 'cat filename | pgp -f' as well as the decrypted message. The question is, why does pine not show the results of the pipe untill it is complete, and can it be made to do so? I am using mkpgp1.6 to do the signing and decrypting. Thnx for any responses. -- -- | John R. Violette | Pager: 416-812-2496 | | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | | Operations Support | E-Mail: jviolett@on.bell.ca | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 23:32:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15870; Wed, 7 Feb 96 23:32:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09772; Wed, 7 Feb 96 23:28:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09766; Wed, 7 Feb 96 23:28:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkQiG-00038RC; Wed, 7 Feb 96 23:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ckk@uchicago.edu (Chris Koenigsberg) Subject: bugs-address config ignored? Message-Id: <4f88hm$gah@ornette.uchicago.edu> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 19:01:10 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 148 It seems that although the documentation (doc/tech-notes) indicates that "bugs-address" is read from the system-wide config file, actually this never takes place anywhere in the Pine source code? So bug reports are always sent to the compiled-in default address, never to the one set in the system-wide config file? I guess I can get around this by compiling in a different default, but can someone explain this, is it just something that's not implemented yet, or am I missing something? Chris Koenigsberg ckk@uchicago.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 23:32:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15898; Wed, 7 Feb 96 23:32:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05178; Wed, 7 Feb 96 23:28:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05172; Wed, 7 Feb 96 23:28:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkQiH-00038VC; Wed, 7 Feb 96 23:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jon@rainbow.rmii.com (Jon Trulson) Subject: Elm-like exit from pine? Date: 6 Feb 1996 19:56:23 GMT Message-Id: <4f8bp7$s24@natasha.rmii.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 149 Is there a way in exiting pine that behaves more like elm? I've unset auto-save-read-msgs (so that messages I've read aren't automatically moved somewhere and deleted), but if I've read a message, then type 'q' to quit, the damn thing asks me if I want to save my read msgs to read-mail... I DON'T. I just want them to stay there! If I wanted them saved, I would have saved them myself. When I exit pine I'd like these things to happen: if I've deleted messages, then delete them without asking (I have that option set). If I have messages that are not deleted in my INBOX, I want them to stay there when I exit regardless of whether or not I've read them, saved them, laughed at them, or whatever, nor do I want to be prompted about their disposition. Why is this so difficult to do? (Elm does this just fine). Any info on how this might be accomplished, would be appreciated... (Greatly). Though I suspect the only alternative is to modify the source, which I can do at home, but not at work...bummer. -- Jon Trulson Inet: jon@radscan.com Patent Pending From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 23:33:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15933; Wed, 7 Feb 96 23:33:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09780; Wed, 7 Feb 96 23:28:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09774; Wed, 7 Feb 96 23:28:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkQiG-00038UC; Wed, 7 Feb 96 23:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jon@rainbow.rmii.com (Jon Trulson) Subject: Re: Elm-like exit from pine? Date: 6 Feb 1996 20:06:53 GMT Message-Id: <4f8cct$s24@natasha.rmii.com> References: <4f8bp7$s24@natasha.rmii.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 150 I hate following up to my own posts... but I think I managed to get it working the way I wanted it to by setting read-message-folder to "". Now if only pine supported pgp... ;-) Jon Trulson (jon@rainbow.rmii.com) wrote: : Is there a way in exiting pine that behaves more like elm? : I've unset auto-save-read-msgs (so that messages I've read aren't : automatically moved somewhere and deleted), but if I've read a : message, then type 'q' to quit, the damn thing asks me if I want to : save my read msgs to read-mail... I DON'T. I just want them to stay : there! If I wanted them saved, I would have saved them myself. : When I exit pine I'd like these things to happen: if I've : deleted messages, then delete them without asking (I have that option : set). If I have messages that are not deleted in my INBOX, I want : them to stay there when I exit regardless of whether or not I've read : them, saved them, laughed at them, or whatever, nor do I want to be : prompted about their disposition. Why is this so difficult to do? : (Elm does this just fine). : Any info on how this might be accomplished, would be : appreciated... (Greatly). Though I suspect the only alternative is to : modify the source, which I can do at home, but not at work...bummer. : -- : Jon Trulson Inet: jon@radscan.com : Patent Pending -- Jon Trulson Inet: jon@radscan.com Patent Pending From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 7 23:37:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16011; Wed, 7 Feb 96 23:37:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09846; Wed, 7 Feb 96 23:33:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09840; Wed, 7 Feb 96 23:33:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkQpr-00038WC; Wed, 7 Feb 96 23:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bill@bugger.loop.com (Bill Mandel) Subject: Re: Adjusting "From:" In Pine 3.91 Date: 07 Feb 1996 15:20:03 GMT Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: Edward H Fenster's message of Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:20:03 +0500 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 151 I have the same problem (I want my home generated mail messages to have a return address the same as my ISP mail account not my home account) and have partially solved it: I changed the entries: "personal-name" and "user-domain" in my .pinerc file the ISP provided names. Now my mail messages show up like From: bmandel I want it to be: From: bmandel I guess I can just change my home user account to bmandel, but I would rather configure pine correctly. Does anyone know of another pine variable like "personal-name" that sets the user name to something else? Thanks, Bill Mandel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 8 01:24:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18207; Thu, 8 Feb 96 01:24:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10982; Thu, 8 Feb 96 01:06:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10976; Thu, 8 Feb 96 01:06:34 -0800 Received: from slave.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:04:41 +0000 Received: by slave.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA03152; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:05:48 GMT Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:05:48 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Michael Dawson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: My Pine Version In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 152 And it came to pass that after the fulness of time Pine 3.89 gave birth to Pine 3.90. And Pine 3.90 likewise to Pine 3.91. Yea verily, even now Pine 3.91 is reaching a ripe old age, and looks forward to the appearance of its son, Pine 3.92. Methinks it is time to lay your 3.89 to reat and upgrade? :-) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 7 Feb 1996, Michael Dawson wrote: > > > In my e-mail of two mimutes ago about not showing the whole distribution > list on an outgoing message, I should add that my PINE version is 3.89 > > Michael Dawson > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 8 01:33:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18694; Thu, 8 Feb 96 01:33:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11232; Thu, 8 Feb 96 01:26:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11226; Thu, 8 Feb 96 01:26:22 -0800 Received: from slave.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:23:26 +0000 Received: by slave.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA03193; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:24:05 GMT Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:24:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Xudong Fan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 153 Well, assuming you're using Pine (which I assume you are, as you're asking the quesion in a mailing list/news group *about* Pine!)... Pine *should* automatically decode the MIME formatted message when you read it (or save it to disk). However this can sometimes not happen, when the message has been received by someone NOT using a MIME-aware mailer, who then forwarded it on to you. The special MIME headers get lost in this process, and Pine doesn't realise the message is encoded in Base64 or Quoted-Printable (the usual MIME encodings). In this case you can unpack it by obtaining software such as "munpack". (I can't remember sites carrying this off the top of my head). You can also use this software if you have used some other mailer to read the message (although strictly you should have asked elsewhere, in a more suitable newsgroup/list :-) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 7 Feb 1996, Xudong Fan wrote: > Dear Sir: > I received a message in MIME format. > Could you please tell me how to decode it. > Just tell me which commands I should use. > Thanks > > Fan Xudong > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 8 01:42:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18795; Thu, 8 Feb 96 01:42:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06642; Thu, 8 Feb 96 01:30:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06634; Thu, 8 Feb 96 01:30:31 -0800 Received: from slave.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:26:17 +0000 Received: by slave.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA03199; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:26:36 GMT Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:26:36 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Gregory J. Hickel" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help, uuencode from Pine?!?! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 154 Yes.... 1. UUencode the file. 2. Start Pine and start composing message. 3. Put cursor in Message Text area. 4. Type ^R (Read File). 5. Enter filename containing the UUencoded data, press Return. These steps form a general sequence that is used to include text files without encoding them using Base64 (files named in the Attachments header field are *always* encoded using Base64). A UUencoded file is just text, and so can be included in this way. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 6 Feb 1996, Gregory J. Hickel wrote: > Is there ANY way to get Pine to send attachments uuencoded instead of > MIME encoded? > > Thanks-- > > Greg Hickel > gjhickel@server.wulaw.wustl.edu > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 8 02:00:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19304; Thu, 8 Feb 96 02:00:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06814; Thu, 8 Feb 96 01:46:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06808; Thu, 8 Feb 96 01:45:53 -0800 Received: from slave.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:40:23 +0000 Received: by slave.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA03204; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:29:50 GMT Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:29:50 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Chris Koenigsberg Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: bugs-address config ignored? In-Reply-To: <4f88hm$gah@ornette.uchicago.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 155 I think you're being bitten by a small bug that was in the Pine 3.91 source code (and possibly binaries) early on. I'm *presuming* the versions now available have been fixed, but may be wrong. A small patch was released to fix this problem. Symptoms included various settings not being read from the (systemwide? I forget!) configuration file. Have a check at ftp.cac.washington.edu to see if there's a newer version of the source/binary you have, or a separate patch file. I remember it was posted to this list ages ago, but can't recall whether it is also on the ftp server (anyone got a moment to check?) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 6 Feb 1996, Chris Koenigsberg wrote: > > It seems that although the documentation (doc/tech-notes) indicates > that "bugs-address" is read from the system-wide config file, actually > this never takes place anywhere in the Pine source code? > > So bug reports are always sent to the compiled-in default address, > never to the one set in the system-wide config file? > > I guess I can get around this by compiling in a different default, but > can someone explain this, is it just something that's not implemented > yet, or am I missing something? > > Chris Koenigsberg > ckk@uchicago.edu > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 8 03:52:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21387; Thu, 8 Feb 96 03:52:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08027; Thu, 8 Feb 96 03:28:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08021; Thu, 8 Feb 96 03:28:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkUVI-00038UC; Thu, 8 Feb 96 03:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Augusto Brandao Subject: POP CLIENT Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 10:59:16 +0100 Message-Id: <3119C974.631E@gfm.cii.fc.ul.pt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 156 can pine act as a pop3 client? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 8 06:48:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25893; Thu, 8 Feb 96 06:48:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14951; Thu, 8 Feb 96 06:14:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14945; Thu, 8 Feb 96 06:14:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkX4d-00038TC; Thu, 8 Feb 96 06:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rneu@rneu.loc.gov (R R Neuswanger) Subject: Re: Printing in OS/2 Pine Date: 7 Feb 1996 15:12:41 GMT Message-Id: <4fafh9$1kr4@rs7.loc.gov> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 157 In , Gilberto Jose W Teixeira writes: >Hi everibody > I just can't print any mail message using the command "of the PINE. (snip) We had that problem here: our bibliographic workstations are all OS/2 machines. It seems that pine prints only to LPT1, and OS/2 defaults to LPT3. So somebody wrote a printer redirector, which takes output from pine and hands it off to an OS/2 printer. One more thing to keep on your desktop, but it works fine. R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Gun control, the opiate of the rrne@loc.gov intellectuals: racism laced I speak for me. Only. with self-righteousness. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 8 06:51:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25952; Thu, 8 Feb 96 06:51:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15232; Thu, 8 Feb 96 06:35:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [206.203.63.1] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15226; Thu, 8 Feb 96 06:35:26 -0800 Received: from 3rd8.3rddoor.com ([206.203.63.208]) by 3rddoor.3rddoor.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA02379 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:36:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199602081436.JAA02379@3rddoor.3rddoor.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Chuck Libbey" <206.203.63.1@3rddoor.3rddoor.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:36:17 -0500 Subject: unsubscribe Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 158 unsubscribe Chuck Libbey From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 8 09:04:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01176; Thu, 8 Feb 96 09:04:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13314; Thu, 8 Feb 96 08:49:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13308; Thu, 8 Feb 96 08:49:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkZWj-00038RC; Thu, 8 Feb 96 08:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rneu@rneu.loc.gov (R R Neuswanger) Subject: Re: adressbook - groups Date: 5 Feb 1996 22:03:23 GMT Message-Id: <4f5urb$114s@rs7.loc.gov> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 159 In , tdersjan@inter.NL.net (T. Dersjant) writes: >Hi, > >For a magazine I've planned to work with a polling-group of about 150 >people. I can put all the e-mail-adresses in one group in the >adress-book. But if i mail the group, all the e-mail-adresses appear in >the header of the message. Is there a way to post the whole group without >the e-mail-adresses in the header? Thanks in advance for your response! >-- >*-------------------------------------------------------* >| T. Dersjant - De Journalist (Journalism magazine) | >| E-mail: T.Dersjant@nvj.nl (Amsterdam) | >*-------------------------------------------------------* From the main menu, go into set-up and config, and scroll down to default-composer-hdrs. Give it what you get now, plus the Bcc: line -- you're going to be doing this often, and you don't want to have to bother over & over with ^R -- and then put your group name on the Bcc: line each time. R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Gun control, the opiate of the rrne@loc.gov intellectuals: racism laced I speak for me. Only. with self-righteousness. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 8 09:13:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01835; Thu, 8 Feb 96 09:13:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18315; Thu, 8 Feb 96 09:00:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from artimis.cstp.umkc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18309; Thu, 8 Feb 96 09:00:01 -0800 Received: by artimis.cstp.umkc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/14Jun95-1030AM) id AA05933; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 11:00:04 -0600 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 11:00:04 -0600 (CST) From: Anuj Agrawal To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: keyboard lock password In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 160 Hi, is there a way to config pine so that each time i do a keyboard lock, i don't have to key in the password? ie. i would like to have a fixed password without having to change it all the time.. thanks for any help. Anuj. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 8 09:32:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02884; Thu, 8 Feb 96 09:32:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18822; Thu, 8 Feb 96 09:09:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18816; Thu, 8 Feb 96 09:09:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkZpx-00038RC; Thu, 8 Feb 96 09:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: R R Neuswanger Subject: follow-up (not reply) from pine? Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 15:13:18 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 161 The standard directions for misc.test.moderated says to test your connection by using the follow-up function, not the reply function, on the message containing the directions (the welcome message). _Is_ there any such distinct function in pine? If I use the reply command, say yes to posting, then delete the (apparent) addressee other than the newsgroup, will that do it?? R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Death is not evil. rrne@loc.gov Suffering is evil. I speak for me. Only. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 8 10:26:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05649; Thu, 8 Feb 96 10:26:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16002; Thu, 8 Feb 96 10:09:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15996; Thu, 8 Feb 96 10:09:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkaja-00038RC; Thu, 8 Feb 96 10:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ac_bhead@uxmail.ust.hk (Leung Wai Kin) Subject: Where my pine cannot send mail? Date: 27 Jan 1996 09:06:00 GMT Message-Id: <4ecpto$7kf@news.ust.hk> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 162 Hello, I am a new user to pine, when I have composed the message, I press but pine have no respon and do not send my mail, is there anyone know why? Thank you for you attention, my e-mail is h9314923@hkueee.hku.hk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 8 10:28:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05757; Thu, 8 Feb 96 10:28:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20881; Thu, 8 Feb 96 10:13:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20871; Thu, 8 Feb 96 10:13:27 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01494; Thu, 8 Feb 96 10:12:37 -0800 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 10:12:29 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: "Pascal A. Dupuis" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Turning ON/OFF Quoted-Printable ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 163 On 2 Feb 1996, Pascal A. Dupuis wrote: > There are a lot of E-Mail clients on our campus. Most of them are ISO-8859-1 > aware, (French beeing the usual langage), but not all can handle Quoted > Printable. When using the ISO charset to send message, Pine seems to always > use QP. For received messages, it handles both QP and 8bit (no encoding) > How could I send straigh 8bits chars, with a header : > Content-Type : Text/Plain, charset = ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Pine 3.92 will be able to do this, assuming you have an 8BITMIME aware ESMTP server. --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 8 11:00:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07562; Thu, 8 Feb 96 11:00:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17168; Thu, 8 Feb 96 10:46:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17162; Thu, 8 Feb 96 10:46:07 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02387; Thu, 8 Feb 96 10:46:04 -0800 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 10:45:49 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Ted Stern Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Feature request for future versions In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 164 On Sat, 3 Feb 1996, Ted Stern wrote: > Why couldn't PINE have an "update-folders-command=" option? In other > words, if this option were non-null, PINE would check the system INBOX, > then if there were mail, it would call that command. After that it would > look to see if there were new mail in the incoming folders. For this to > work in a way similar to the 'mail.txt' mode, though, there would have to > be a local file distinct from the system INBOX; "$HOME/mail/mbox.IN", > perhaps? The name would have to be hardcoded in the same way that > 'mail.txt' is now so that PINE could cross check dates between the > files. If one still wanted mail in Tenex format, Pine could then > transfer from mail/mbox.IN to mail.txt. > This could be implemented as a new mailbox format c-client driver and could be patterned after any of the "snarfing" drivers (tenex, mtx, mh, mbox). The advantage of this is that all the changes are isolated to the underlying c-client library and don't affect the main Pine code... > This might be a nicer method of running procmail (which I find works > beaufully with PINE) than the standard recommended method since procmail > would be run only when one is actually using pine. It should work for > other mailfilters as well. > > Comments? Likelyhood of inclusion? > One disadvantage of this is that there would be a noticable delay every time Pine finds new mail in your system inbox as procmail is called. We don't have any near-term plans to implement such a driver, but would welcome contributions... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 8 11:32:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09244; Thu, 8 Feb 96 11:32:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17956; Thu, 8 Feb 96 11:13:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from post-ofc02.srv.cis.pitt.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17950; Thu, 8 Feb 96 11:13:23 -0800 Received: from local (root@localhost) by post-ofc02.srv.cis.pitt.edu (8.7.3/cispo-2.0.1.1) ID ; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 14:13:18 -0500 (EST) Received: via switchmail; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 14:13:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from grape.cis.pitt.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 14:12:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from grape.cis.pitt.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 14:12:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.grape.cis.pitt.edu.sun4m.54 via MS.5.6.grape.cis.pitt.edu.sun4_51; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 14:12:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 14:12:51 -0500 (EST) From: Rudolph Todd Maceyko X-Andrew-Message-Size: 1401+0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/richtext; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: Ted Stern , David L Miller Subject: Re: Feature request for future versions Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 165 Excerpts from rmbb.pine-info: 8-Feb-96 Re: Feature request for fut.. David L Miller@cac.washi (1804*) > This might be a nicer method of running procmail (which I find works > beaufully with PINE) than the standard recommended method since procmail > would be run only when one is actually using pine. It should work for > other mailfilters as well. > > Comments? Likelyhood of inclusion? > One disadvantage of this is that there would be a noticable delay every time Pine finds new mail in your system inbox as procmail is called. We don't have any near-term plans to implement such a driver, but would welcome contributions... Well, that's what we do here, although I wouldn't want to contribute the changes the way they are currently... In our distributed mail system, mail is delivered into users' directories as separate files in their "Mailbox" and our pine calls out to a program to append the mail to the users pine inbox (again, in their home directory). In the current version in progress, the user can direct this process using procmail. I have been able to work with what we have now, but I'd like to take the time perhaps to fix this situation somewhat. We're not likely to change the delivery-into-Mailbox behavior any time soon, so the proper things in c-client would be best. Rudy -- Rudy Maceyko rm55+@pitt.edu> Computing & Information Services University of Pittsburgh From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 8 12:17:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11184; Thu, 8 Feb 96 12:17:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24158; Thu, 8 Feb 96 12:10:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24152; Thu, 8 Feb 96 12:09:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkcev-00038RC; Thu, 8 Feb 96 12:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aq540@freenet.buffalo.edu (Vince Lobuzzetta) Subject: Re: Newsgroup comp.mail.pine, Articles 13346-13375 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 20:36:07 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 166 s there a way to view a letter without paging. I just want the message to stream continuously to the end. Thanks. -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 8 12:20:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11319; Thu, 8 Feb 96 12:20:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19558; Thu, 8 Feb 96 12:14:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19552; Thu, 8 Feb 96 12:13:57 -0800 Received: from horn by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA10035 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Thu, 8 Feb 1996 21:13:52 +0100 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 20:42:33 +0100 (CEST) From: Nico van der Horn To: Michiel Perdeck Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: startup with INBOX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 167 On Tue, 6 Feb 1996, Michiel Perdeck wrote: > (How) can I start PINE with the INBOX folder opened immediately, without > having to go thru menu and selection? > > Thanks for any tips, > Michiel > -- > Michiel Perdeck (Michiel.Perdeck@cmg.nl) > CMG Finance div. AT Main -> Setup -> Config -> initial-keystroke-list : i Normally Pine starts with the main-menu. Go from there to Setup and select Config. Look for the field "initial-keystroke-list" and set it to "i". This automatically brings you in the index of your INBOX when Pine comes up. --- nico@vanderhorn.nl (N.J. van der Horn), VANDERHORN VOF, Oranjelaan 40, 3135 ZP Vlaardingen, The Netherlands, Tel +31104600411, Fax +31104342857 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 8 12:38:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12112; Thu, 8 Feb 96 12:38:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19740; Thu, 8 Feb 96 12:20:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19728; Thu, 8 Feb 96 12:19:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkclF-00038RC; Thu, 8 Feb 96 12:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hobbs@uofport.edu (Eric A. Hobbs) Subject: Pine's datagram connections??? HELP! Date: 8 Feb 1996 11:16:45 -0800 Message-Id: <4fdi6t$snf@wally.uofport.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 168 I've had some pine 3.91 sessions hanging lately, and in the course of my investigating, I found that each session of Pine makes a datagram conection to a different port. This would be okay except that on occasion, Pine will bind to a port that is listed in the /etc/services file (which I thought wouldn't happen) and the pine session will hang, as well as knock out the service that was there on that port in the first place. Does anybody have any reason why Pine needs to bind to a port at all? This might really mess things up in the future. FYI, I'm running Pine 3.91 on a SS10 running SunOS 4.1.3_U1, and that same machine is the mail server, so the connections are internal. Please help! Eric Hobbs hobbs@uofport.edu -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric A. Hobbs (hobbs@uofport.edu) - -- ---=- -===-====(-: UNIX System Manager, University of Portland :-o===-==--=--- -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 8 13:16:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14490; Thu, 8 Feb 96 13:16:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25424; Thu, 8 Feb 96 13:00:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25418; Thu, 8 Feb 96 13:00:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkdOe-00038YC; Thu, 8 Feb 96 12:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: br00031@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu Subject: Linux attached ansi print Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 07:37:57 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 169 I connect via modem to a suns from a pc running linux. The print to attached ansi command of Pine does not work. I have tried using C-kermit, and minicom as communication software. I have set minicom to ANSI terminal. I have set software flow control on. I have set "preseve stop ... on". I have tried each of these things in different combinations. It has been suggested that if I could modify the command Pine uses to print I might be able to fix this. ( kermit-C "apc server, remote print xxx finish" ) Unfortunatly, I don't think my university system administrator would be to keen on the idea. Is there anything that I, as a user, can do to make the print to ansi command work when issuing the command in pine on the suns while connected via modem from my linux computer.? This has always worked in Dos/Windows. I would like to know if I should give up trying to fix this. For clarification; by it does not work I mean the text is scrolled on the screen, and does not go to my printer. Thank you From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 8 13:59:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16624; Thu, 8 Feb 96 13:59:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22404; Thu, 8 Feb 96 13:50:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22398; Thu, 8 Feb 96 13:50:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkeD0-00038TC; Thu, 8 Feb 96 13:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ritchmer@apollo.sheridanc.on.ca (meredith ritchie) Subject: how do I create a signature? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 20:19:31 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 170 I want to know how to create a signature block to put at the end of my messages. Could someone please help me? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 8 18:43:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29589; Thu, 8 Feb 96 18:43:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04615; Thu, 8 Feb 96 18:35:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04609; Thu, 8 Feb 96 18:35:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkici-00038RC; Thu, 8 Feb 96 18:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrew@inhb.co.nz (Andrew Johnston) Subject: Restricting access to /etc/passwd Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 02:13:12 GMT Message-Id: <4fe6q5$8e2@news.ramhb.co.nz> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 171 I am trying to restrict access to my /etc/passwd file. However pine insists on using it and I therefore have the file readable by the world. Does anyone know if this can be restricted so pine can read another cutdown passwd file or not reference it at all? Cheers, Andrew. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 8 19:40:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01202; Thu, 8 Feb 96 19:40:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00836; Thu, 8 Feb 96 19:35:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00830; Thu, 8 Feb 96 19:35:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkja0-00038RC; Thu, 8 Feb 96 19:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rhoward@matd.gatech.edu (Robert L. Howard) Subject: Compiling on Solaris 2.5? Date: 8 Feb 96 14:51:39 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 172 Has anyone had luck compiling pine 3.91 on Solaris 2.5 (or 2.4)? We tried several different compiler and OS options, all failing with the same problem; the compiler complaining of a redefinition of getopt from the stdlib.h version. All the other modules (pico, daemons) compiled. Just pine failed. Reply via email, Robert -- | Robert L. Howard | Georgia Tech Research Institute | | robert.howard@gtri.gatech.edu | SEAL / ATDD | | (770) 528-7165 | Atlanta, Georgia 30332 | ------------------------------------------------------------------------- |"Government subsidies can be critically analyzed according to a simple | | principal: You are smarter than the government, so when the government| | pays you to do something you wouldn't do on your own, it is almost | | always paying you to do something stupid." -- P.J. O'Rourke | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 8 22:23:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04652; Thu, 8 Feb 96 22:23:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03340; Thu, 8 Feb 96 22:21:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03334; Thu, 8 Feb 96 22:21:01 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02741; Thu, 8 Feb 96 22:21:01 -0800 Message-Id: <9602082207.AA22863@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 8 Feb 96 15:05:28 -0700 X-Sender: curt@magiclink.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: curt@magiclink.com (Curt Brimacomb) Subject: can not send using pine Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 22:20:49 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Subject: Resent-Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 173 Help, We somehow got the permissions on a group of files (including pine) changed. Pine was installed on our HPUX 800 by someone who is no longer here and I do not know what the permissions should be, but we are unable to send email out using pine. We can look and it and receive it just fine. Anyone know what files are messed up? The FAQ does not mention permissions. TIA ************************************************************************** Curt Brimacomb Curt@magiclink.com System Manager Idaho Computer Services, Inc. 1-208-734-2245 Twin Falls, ID 83303-0446 1-208-733-9663 (fax) http://www.magiclink.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 8 22:28:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04777; Thu, 8 Feb 96 22:28:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08088; Thu, 8 Feb 96 22:26:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08082; Thu, 8 Feb 96 22:26:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkmDU-00038RC; Thu, 8 Feb 96 22:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dereksam@unixg.ubc.ca (DEREK SAM) Subject: HELP!: READ ONLY Folder Date: 8 Feb 1996 23:42:35 GMT Message-Id: <4fe1pb$al8@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 174 Hi. I was trying to delete some mail while using PINE the other day (on my university's account), but PINE said that it cannot delete the mail because the folder was "READ ONLY" (and whenever I open the folder, it says "READ ONLY". How do I bypass this? Or toggle the readonly off? thanks Please try to e-mail me as I don't check the group often. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 8 23:08:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05716; Thu, 8 Feb 96 23:08:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04000; Thu, 8 Feb 96 23:06:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03994; Thu, 8 Feb 96 23:06:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkmty-00038TC; Thu, 8 Feb 96 23:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pegboy@gti.net (300 baud) Subject: Re: Talk! Date: 8 Feb 1996 23:54:26 GMT Message-Id: <4fe2fi$25d@gti.gti.net> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 175 It would probably be best to ask in comp.unix.questions... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 9 00:29:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07058; Fri, 9 Feb 96 00:29:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09626; Fri, 9 Feb 96 00:25:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cadul.cadul.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09620; Fri, 9 Feb 96 00:25:42 -0800 Received: (from mlists@localhost) by cadul.cadul.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA10701; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 08:56:38 GMT Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 08:56:38 +0000 (GMT) From: mailing lists To: meredith ritchie Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: how do I create a signature? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 176 On Thu, 8 Feb 1996, meredith ritchie wrote: Create a .signature ascii file in your home directory or go to setup and enter a filename at the option signature-file. Norbert > I want to know how to create a signature block to put at the end of my > messages. Could someone please help me? > ============================================================================== Phone: +49 731 937600 CAD-UL GmbH Fax: +49 731 9376027 Einstein Str. 37 BBS: +49 731 9376029 89077 Ulm Email: support@cadul.de Germany sales@cadul.de WWW: http://www.cadul.de ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 9 04:59:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13238; Fri, 9 Feb 96 04:59:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13048; Fri, 9 Feb 96 04:51:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gossip.churchill.co.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13042; Fri, 9 Feb 96 04:51:35 -0800 Received: by gossip.churchill.co.uk; id OAA09601; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 14:38:15 -0500 Received: from unknown(129.210.4.7) by gossip.churchill.co.uk via smap (V1.3) id sma009596; Fri Feb 9 14:37:52 1996 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 12:50:32 +0000 (GMT) From: Nick Klee X-Sender: nick@chilli To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help!! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 177 Anybody had experience of aliasing upwards of a 1000 names in a distribution list? Crashed Pine on our systems. Regards, Nick +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | _____________ | | Nick Klee churchill Tel: +44 181 313 5667 | | Computer Support ============= Fax: +44 181 313 5699 | | Churchill Management | | 15-17 London Rd, Bromley BR1 1DE, UK. Email: nick@churchill.co.uk | | | | I am Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated. | | The internet is full. Go away. | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 9 05:02:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13370; Fri, 9 Feb 96 05:02:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08373; Fri, 9 Feb 96 04:51:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gossip.churchill.co.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08367; Fri, 9 Feb 96 04:51:26 -0800 Received: by gossip.churchill.co.uk; id OAA09593; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 14:37:45 -0500 Received: from unknown(129.210.4.7) by gossip.churchill.co.uk via smap (V1.3) id sma009584; Fri Feb 9 14:37:17 1996 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 12:49:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Nick Klee X-Sender: nick@chilli To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: subscribe Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 178 subscribe Regards, Nick +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | _____________ | | Nick Klee churchill Tel: +44 181 313 5667 | | Computer Support ============= Fax: +44 181 313 5699 | | Churchill Management | | 15-17 London Rd, Bromley BR1 1DE, UK. Email: nick@churchill.co.uk | | | | I am Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated. | | The internet is full. Go away. | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 9 09:02:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19808; Fri, 9 Feb 96 09:02:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16897; Fri, 9 Feb 96 08:52:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16891; Fri, 9 Feb 96 08:52:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkvzb-00038RC; Fri, 9 Feb 96 08:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu Subject: PROBLEM: "Y" prints screen instead of message Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 18:56:37 GMT Message-Id: <4fasia$a6a@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 179 Someone in our department has been experiencing a strange problem: the "y" command sporadically and unpredictably seems to issue a "print screen" command rather than a "print this message" command. Has anyone else experienced this? Any suggestions as to cause or cure? ----- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 voice: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~rbasu/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 9 10:22:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24477; Fri, 9 Feb 96 10:22:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19272; Fri, 9 Feb 96 10:12:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19266; Fri, 9 Feb 96 10:12:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkxGa-00038UC; Fri, 9 Feb 96 10:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pww@bnr.ca (Peter Whittaker) Subject: Aggregation not really useful? Date: 8 Feb 1996 16:58:34 GMT Message-Id: <4fda3q$cs2@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 180 The ';' command is useful for searching messages, or viewing a subset of messages via the zoom command. Unfortunately, zoom seems to be the only command that can take advantage of aggregates. It would nice to be able to use aggregates in a manner analogous to elm's tagging feature. My favourite use would be to save multiple messages to the same folder. What chance of seeing this in a future version of pine? pww ps Speaking of future versions of pine, when will they take their bows? -- Peter Whittaker [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] X.500 Specialist pww@entrust.com [ http://www.entrust.com ] Nortel Secure Networks Ph: +1 613 765 2064 [ ] P.O. Box 3511, Station C FAX:+1 613 765 3520 [__________________________] Ottawa, Canada, K1Y 4H7 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 9 10:25:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24626; Fri, 9 Feb 96 10:25:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14774; Fri, 9 Feb 96 10:12:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14766; Fri, 9 Feb 96 10:12:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkxGa-00038TC; Fri, 9 Feb 96 10:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: unread read message Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 17:35:33 GMT Message-Id: <4fdc60$p08@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <4f4k2h$126@quest.ccsi.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 181 "INTELLECTS INC." wrote: >can you unread read message that is bring sack n If you're trying to say "Can you make Pine think you haven't read a message?" the answer is "yes." Use the "*" command followed by "n" to flag the message as "new." ----- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 voice: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~rbasu/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 9 10:28:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24755; Fri, 9 Feb 96 10:28:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14782; Fri, 9 Feb 96 10:12:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14776; Fri, 9 Feb 96 10:12:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkxGc-00038VC; Fri, 9 Feb 96 10:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gordon or Connie Marigold Subject: Re: startup with INBOX Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 11:35:21 -0600 Message-Id: References: <4fal0b$32a@gti.gti.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4fal0b$32a@gti.gti.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 182 Well, well, isn't that nice! Any other tips like that???? Connie On 7 Feb 1996, apollo creed! wrote: > > > > > try: > > pine -i > > :) > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 9 10:30:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24903; Fri, 9 Feb 96 10:30:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19264; Fri, 9 Feb 96 10:12:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19258; Fri, 9 Feb 96 10:12:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tkxGa-00038RC; Fri, 9 Feb 96 10:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Making Pine use full height and width of screen Date: 8 Feb 96 16:40:17 GMT Message-Id: References: <3118FB9F.AC4@biology.ucla.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 183 Peter Andrews writes: >I use UNIX Pine for two different accounts. With one of them Pine >makes full use of the screen but with the other one (my main mail) it >always uses the same 24x80 screen size even if I make my screen height >and width larger. Anyone know how I can fix this? Please email me at >andrews@biology.ucla.edu. I do not answer requests when the user says email unless the requester also says "I will summarize back to the group". posted with cc to requester. >Thanks, >Peter -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Web admin: chimera,nn,tin,jove,kermit - free's best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 9 11:04:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26605; Fri, 9 Feb 96 11:04:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19974; Fri, 9 Feb 96 10:42:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [194.181.101.226] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19964; Fri, 9 Feb 96 10:42:27 -0800 Received: by jantar (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA01107; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 19:42:20 +0100 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 19:42:20 +0100 From: czuma@jantar.elektron.pl (Krzysztof Czuma) Message-Id: <199602091842.TAA01107@jantar> Content-Type: text Apparently-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 184 subscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 9 11:26:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27570; Fri, 9 Feb 96 11:26:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15917; Fri, 9 Feb 96 10:59:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15911; Fri, 9 Feb 96 10:59:45 -0800 Received: from elvis.med.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id ab14458; 9 Feb 96 13:50 EST Received: by elvis.med.Virginia.EDU (5.65c/1.34) id AA17770; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 13:49:03 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 13:49:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Steven D. Majewski" X-Sender: sdm7g@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU To: Peter Whittaker Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Aggregation not really useful? In-Reply-To: <4fda3q$cs2@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 185 On 8 Feb 1996, Peter Whittaker wrote: > The ';' command is useful for searching messages, or viewing a subset of > messages via the zoom command. Unfortunately, zoom seems to be the only > command that can take advantage of aggregates. It would nice to be able > to use aggregates in a manner analogous to elm's tagging feature. > > My favourite use would be to save multiple messages to the same folder. > > What chance of seeing this in a future version of pine? > You don't need to wait for a future version: The "A" / Apply command, followed by another command key ( like 'S'ave, for instance ) will do what you want - i.e. apply the command to the entire selected set of messages. ---| Steven D. Majewski (804-982-0831) |--- ---| Computer Systems Engineer University of Virginia |--- ---| Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics |--- ---| Box 449 Health Science Center Charlottesville,VA 22908 |--- [ "The grass is always greener, except at t=0" - Stan Kelly-Bootle ] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 9 13:48:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04784; Fri, 9 Feb 96 13:48:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24745; Fri, 9 Feb 96 13:33:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24739; Fri, 9 Feb 96 13:33:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tl0Mg-00038RC; Fri, 9 Feb 96 13:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lizlocus@econ.duke.edu Subject: Automatic Reply Date: 25 Jan 1996 13:44:13 GMT Message-Id: <4e81fd$rp3@news.duke.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 186 Is it possible to send (setup) an automatic reply via Pine? If yes, how? Liz Locus Duke University Durham, NC From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 9 13:49:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04901; Fri, 9 Feb 96 13:49:59 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20722; Fri, 9 Feb 96 13:38:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20716; Fri, 9 Feb 96 13:38:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tl0SO-00038UC; Fri, 9 Feb 96 13:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ozzg@nmia.com (Osmer Graham) Subject: Pine problem Date: 8 Feb 1996 18:54:15 GMT Message-Id: <4fdgsn$k79@thales.nmia.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 187 I run a mailing list for my wife, and currently we have 323 users, set in groups of 50 in each group that gets mailed out. What my problem is, that some of the users have been having trouble receiving the mailing, which can vary from 3k to 30k in size. I attach a "header" to the top, like in a digest format on a listserve mailing list, saying the membership total, date, amount of messages and total lines in the message. When I send it, I send it to myself and bcc it to each group. The problem is some users have recently been only receiving the first 13 lines(the header) and nothing else, however, when I forward it to them after they contact me saying they didn't receive it, then they get the entire thing. Thats one problem i am having, the 2nd problem is 1 of my users is, depending on the messages, getting each individual message, even though it is sent in digest format to her. So, the example would be, if there were 5 messages in this digest, she would get the header(first 13 lines), then the 5 messages in 5 different letters from me. I have been doing this since June of last year with no troubles, and no troubles except the occasional bounce from users losing their access, but, otherwise, no troubles until recently(within the last month). Can anyone make any sugggestions on the 2 above problems? Any help would be appreciated. BTW, nothing new, as far as I know has been done to the ISP I get access through, and send the mail through. Ozz Graham ozzg@nmia.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 9 13:59:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05432; Fri, 9 Feb 96 13:59:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20705; Fri, 9 Feb 96 13:38:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20698; Fri, 9 Feb 96 13:38:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tl0SN-00038RC; Fri, 9 Feb 96 13:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Configuring properly to receive mail In-Reply-To: doctore@okway.okstate.edu's message of 6 Feb 1996 17: 00:28 GMT Message-Id: References: <4f81fc$nj1@news.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 19:34:17 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 188 In article <4f81fc$nj1@news.cis.okstate.edu> doctore@okway.okstate.edu (Eric Stair) writes: Having problems configuring my pine account to receive mail, am able to send O.K. just not able to receive. Thanks I suspect the problem involves your Mail Transport Agent (e.g. sendmail) rather than pine. I see 3 MX records for the host in your return address: okway.okstate.edu mail is handled by osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu okway.okstate.edu mail is handled by bubba.ucc.okstate.edu okway.okstate.edu mail is handled by okway.okstate.edu Performing an SMTP expand command at each yields, respectively 250 250 550 doctore@okway.okstate.edu not a local mailing list Thus, messages for you appear to be directed to the third host which fumbles them. Hope this helps, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4824 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 9 14:05:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05850; Fri, 9 Feb 96 14:05:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24893; Fri, 9 Feb 96 13:38:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24884; Fri, 9 Feb 96 13:38:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tl0SN-00038TC; Fri, 9 Feb 96 13:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ozzg@nmia.com (Osmer Graham) Subject: Re: adressbook - groups Date: 8 Feb 1996 18:43:44 GMT Message-Id: <4fdg90$k79@thales.nmia.com> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 189 T. Dersjant (tdersjan@inter.NL.net) wrote: : : For a magazine I've planned to work with a polling-group of about 150 : people. I can put all the e-mail-adresses in one group in the : adress-book. But if i mail the group, all the e-mail-adresses appear in : the header of the message. Is there a way to post the whole group without : the e-mail-adresses in the header? Thanks in advance for your response! I use Pine to send to a list of 300+ people, and when I send it out I use Blind Carbon Copy(bcc), you need to enable this in the setup of Pine. There is a button to turn it on and off, and after it is enabled, you hit CTRL-R to activate it. Though, I have found that over 50 people ona list is max our pine goes, so, I have 7 lists I send our each time I mail to them. I am not sure if it is Pine, or our server that prevents us from mailing to more then 50 at a time. Good luck Ozz From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 9 14:29:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06996; Fri, 9 Feb 96 14:29:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21969; Fri, 9 Feb 96 14:20:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21961; Fri, 9 Feb 96 14:20:34 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11973; Fri, 9 Feb 96 14:20:33 -0800 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 19:40:37 +0100 From: czuma@jantar.elektron.pl (Krzysztof Czuma) Message-Id: <199602091840.TAA01079@jantar> Content-Type: text Apparently-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 14:20:26 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Subject: Resent mail.... Resent-Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 190 Dear Madam or Sir, I tried to compile pine. Build script showed me information, that I should find doc/pine-ports file and choose platform. First question: where is this file? Second: could you advise me, what command should I execute, to compile Pine and Pico. I use Unix Solaris 2.4 x86. Sincerely Yours, Krzysztof Czuma From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 9 14:42:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07646; Fri, 9 Feb 96 14:42:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26524; Fri, 9 Feb 96 14:33:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26516; Fri, 9 Feb 96 14:33:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tl1KX-00038TC; Fri, 9 Feb 96 14:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: uj5r@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Andreas Muck) Subject: Re: startup with INBOX Date: 7 Feb 1996 19:41:33 GMT Message-Id: <4fav9d$5fg@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 191 Michiel Perdeck (michielp@atf.cmg.nl) wrote: |(How) can I start PINE with the INBOX folder opened immediately, without |having to go thru menu and selection? pine -i Andi -- "... I've seen Sun monitors on fire off the side of the multimedia lab. I've seen NTU lights glitter in the dark near the Mail Gate. All these things will be lost in time, like the root partition last week. Time to die...". - Peter Gutman in bofh.general From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 9 15:18:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09560; Fri, 9 Feb 96 15:18:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23621; Fri, 9 Feb 96 15:08:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23615; Fri, 9 Feb 96 15:08:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tl1s5-00038TC; Fri, 9 Feb 96 15:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Andrews Subject: Re: Routing incoming messages to specific folders by sender Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 16:07:08 -0800 Message-Id: <311A902C.A63@biology.ucla.edu> References: <4embaj$ipm@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 192 I'm afraid there is no simple way built into pine. You must use another program to 'filter' your mail. Here is the URL of the FAQ on how to filter your mail. http://www.smartpages.com/faqs/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html Good luck, Peter From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 9 17:10:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14363; Fri, 9 Feb 96 17:10:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00766; Fri, 9 Feb 96 16:59:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00760; Fri, 9 Feb 96 16:59:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tl3bo-00038TC; Fri, 9 Feb 96 16:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pegboy@gti.net (hayes) Subject: Re: startup with INBOX Date: 9 Feb 1996 18:09:14 GMT Message-Id: <4fg2ka$6j8@gti.gti.net> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 193 pine -f -- enables pine to start in the specified folder pine -z -- enables pine to be suspended (also in config) My .cshrc file: alias m 'pine -i' alias mdadwork 'pine dad@work.place' alias mdadhome 'pine dad@home' alias mdadboth 'pine dad@work, dad@home' (so i can really bug him..*l* just thought some one may not know about these things... any others ?? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 9 19:33:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17699; Fri, 9 Feb 96 19:33:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03439; Fri, 9 Feb 96 19:28:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03433; Fri, 9 Feb 96 19:28:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tl5xf-00038VC; Fri, 9 Feb 96 19:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Andrews Subject: Re: Making Pine use full height and width of screen Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 15:14:22 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 194 On 8 Feb 1996, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > Peter Andrews writes: > > >I use UNIX Pine for two different accounts. With one of them Pine > >makes full use of the screen but with the other one (my main mail) it > >always uses the same 24x80 screen size even if I make my screen height > >and width larger. Anyone know how I can fix this? Please email me at > >andrews@biology.ucla.edu. > > I do not answer requests when the user says email unless the requester also > says "I will summarize back to the group". > This was an oversight on my part - I will be happy to summarize back to the group. Peter From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 9 19:33:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17735; Fri, 9 Feb 96 19:33:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29187; Fri, 9 Feb 96 19:28:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29181; Fri, 9 Feb 96 19:28:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tl5xg-00038WC; Fri, 9 Feb 96 19:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Pine onto floppy disk Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 18:49:59 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 195 On Wed, 7 Feb 1996, Ray McAllister wrote: > Please tell me how to get a pine message onto a floppy disk. I use > Procomm Plus to get pine and have a 486-99 and both sizes of floppies. > Since I cannot find any way to print pine messages (the three options in > setup do not work) I figure to export to disk and print from the disk????? > Thanks a million! If you are using Pine under Unix and have the program sz available, browse my home page for a technique to download directly from Pine's display of a message via Procomm Plus to your PC. In my case I have PC+ configured so that it goes to a RAM-disk, which I could then copy to a floppy if I wanted. (I could also reconfigure PC+ to download directly to a floppy drive.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 9 19:43:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18114; Fri, 9 Feb 96 19:43:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29179; Fri, 9 Feb 96 19:28:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29173; Fri, 9 Feb 96 19:28:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tl5xf-00038UC; Fri, 9 Feb 96 19:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rasheed Baqai Subject: Re: PROBLEM: "Y" prints screen instead of message Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 13:03:48 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4fasia$a6a@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4fasia$a6a@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 196 On Wed, 7 Feb 1996 rbasu@caltech.edu wrote: > Someone in our department has been experiencing a strange problem: the "y" > command sporadically and unpredictably seems to issue a "print screen" command > rather than a "print this message" command. > > Has anyone else experienced this? Any suggestions as to cause or cure? I have also sporadically expeienced this problem. Do you use a telnet type setup? If so, check your session and global settings. The most probably reason is that it CANNOT find the printer command. Make sure that you can print from that same terminal. By the way, when I use a regular terminal program, it never prints out to my printer. I have also had to use a telnet entry program. Rasheed --- R a B s a rbaqai@uci.edu h q http://www.ics.uci.edu/~rbaqai/ e a University of California, Irvine-Information & Computer Science e i d From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 9 20:12:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19026; Fri, 9 Feb 96 20:12:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29661; Fri, 9 Feb 96 20:00:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [129.179.17.11] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29645; Fri, 9 Feb 96 19:59:58 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 10 Feb 96 11:58:55 +0800 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 11:58:54 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Peter Whittaker Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Aggregation not really useful? In-Reply-To: <4fda3q$cs2@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 197 On 8 Feb 1996, Peter Whittaker wrote: > The ';' command is useful for searching messages, or viewing a subset of > messages via the zoom command. Unfortunately, zoom seems to be the only > command that can take advantage of aggregates. It would nice to be able > to use aggregates in a manner analogous to elm's tagging feature. > > My favourite use would be to save multiple messages to the same folder. > > What chance of seeing this in a future version of pine? It is already available in the current (3.91) version. It is called "a" or "apply". After the "a" command you tell it what to apply to the messages which have been ";" tagged. Reards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 9 20:13:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19081; Fri, 9 Feb 96 20:13:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03939; Fri, 9 Feb 96 20:01:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [129.179.17.11] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03933; Fri, 9 Feb 96 20:01:16 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 10 Feb 96 12:00:20 +0800 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 12:00:19 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Gordon or Connie Marigold Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: startup with INBOX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 198 On Thu, 8 Feb 1996, Gordon or Connie Marigold wrote: > Well, well, isn't that nice! Any other tips like that???? > Connie > > On 7 Feb 1996, apollo creed! wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > try: > > > > pine -i How about "pine -h" for "help"? Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 9 20:31:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19427; Fri, 9 Feb 96 20:31:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04225; Fri, 9 Feb 96 20:19:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04218; Fri, 9 Feb 96 20:19:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tl6jH-00038UC; Fri, 9 Feb 96 20:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pilgrim@xmission.com (Papa Pilgrim) Subject: In search of tin help Date: 10 Feb 1996 02:43:47 GMT Message-Id: <4fh0p3$9l9@news.xmission.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 199 Will someone please point me to a "tin" help group please. TIA -- ____ _____ _. __. Papa Pilgrim pilgrim@xmission.com 1000 / __ \ / _ /// _ / / Forwarding the Reggae Vibe...Everytime! X / _.' // _' ///_//_// Reggae Ambassadors Worldwide! c96 /_/ |_|/_//_/ \__/__/ http://www.xmission.com/~turq/RAW/home.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 9 23:24:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22247; Fri, 9 Feb 96 23:24:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02571; Fri, 9 Feb 96 23:19:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02565; Fri, 9 Feb 96 23:19:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tl9XV-00038UC; Fri, 9 Feb 96 23:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rdadams@ubmail.ubalt.edu (Dick Adams) Subject: pico justification question Date: 10 Feb 96 01:38:39 -0500 Message-Id: <1996Feb10.013839.1@ubmail.ubalt.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 200 I use pico as my editor. I want to set my right margin to 64 characters for CNTL-J justification, but am unable to locate any instructions as to how to do so. Any help will be appreciated. Dick From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 10 02:57:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25861; Sat, 10 Feb 96 02:57:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08844; Sat, 10 Feb 96 02:44:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08838; Sat, 10 Feb 96 02:44:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlCkK-00038RC; Sat, 10 Feb 96 02:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dennisk@primenet.com (DennisK) Subject: The set command changed, why? Date: 10 Feb 1996 02:46:00 -0700 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 201 I'm using Pico in Pine and also in the shell at the command prompt... The command 'set mark' [control-^], stopped working for me. 'set mark' now requires [escape-escape-^]. How can I reset the command back to [control-^], which should be the default? Dennis Kessler http://www.primenet.com/~dennisk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 10 04:03:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27225; Sat, 10 Feb 96 04:03:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05522; Sat, 10 Feb 96 03:59:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05516; Sat, 10 Feb 96 03:59:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlDuF-00038RC; Sat, 10 Feb 96 03:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Raymond DeVoe Subject: News Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:57:21 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 202 For the last couple of days, I've been using Pine to read news. I've notice that articles are flagged with the "N" to indicate that they're new articles. Once opened and read, this flag is removed. If I open another folder for news a come back, these same articles are listed with the new flag. The only way I've found to really mark them as read (and remove them permanently) is to do a ";aad" to delete them. Is there something that I'm missing? Is there any easier way to accomplish this? Thanks, Ray -- rdevoe@voicenet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 10 05:57:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29444; Sat, 10 Feb 96 05:57:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11031; Sat, 10 Feb 96 05:45:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11025; Sat, 10 Feb 96 05:45:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlFbc-00038RC; Sat, 10 Feb 96 05:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynch.94@osu.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: Re: Pine and spell checking Date: 9 Feb 1996 01:31:27 GMT Message-Id: References: <4fc5l3$deq@rs10.tcs.tulane.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 203 If you're using linux, this is probably because /usr/bin/spell is a link to ispell. Make /usr/bin/spell be the following file instead: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- #! /bin/sh # # A front-end to ispell which allows it to act like the "spell" program # By: Christopher Neufeld # case $# in 0) ispell -l | sort | uniq ;; *) cat $@ | ispell -l | sort | uniq ;; esac ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This will make the command "spell" behave like the typical unix spell command. To actually use ispell with its list of suggested words, you can make ispell the alternate editor by adding the following to your .pinerc: editor=/usr/bin/ispell -x Hope that helps. On 8 Feb 1996 06:36:19 GMT, Mark Chin wrote: >I have a problem with pine I hope someone can help me with. When I try to >spell check a document I get this whole list of options that appear in the >text of my letter. I think this is a problem with pico. Can anyone help >configure this properly? -- Jerry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 10 08:00:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00946; Sat, 10 Feb 96 08:00:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08037; Sat, 10 Feb 96 07:45:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08031; Sat, 10 Feb 96 07:45:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlHTD-00038RC; Sat, 10 Feb 96 07:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jkrytus@cris.com (John Krytus) Subject: Getting around in a text file Date: 10 Feb 1996 14:19:38 GMT Message-Id: <4fi9hq$osm@spectator.cris.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 204 Can someone tell me if there is a keystroke in Pine to jump to the beginning or end of a message. Many times I am quoting from another large document and would like to use just one sentence and discard the rest. Having a command to jump to beginning and end of document would surely be useful. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 10 08:55:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01750; Sat, 10 Feb 96 08:55:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08591; Sat, 10 Feb 96 08:41:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08585; Sat, 10 Feb 96 08:41:10 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08213; Sat, 10 Feb 96 08:41:07 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 08:41:06 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Raymond DeVoe Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: News In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 205 In the Setup/Config screen, find the feature "news-approximates-new-status" and read the help... that will explain your options. -teg On Sun, 28 Jan 1996, Raymond DeVoe wrote: > For the last couple of days, I've been using Pine to read news. I've > notice that articles are flagged with the "N" to indicate that they're > new articles. Once opened and read, this flag is removed. If I open > another folder for news a come back, these same articles are listed with > the new flag. > > The only way I've found to really mark them as read (and remove them > permanently) is to do a ";aad" to delete them. Is there something that > I'm missing? Is there any easier way to accomplish this? > > Thanks, > Ray > > -- > rdevoe@voicenet.com > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 10 09:00:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01873; Sat, 10 Feb 96 09:00:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08637; Sat, 10 Feb 96 08:43:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08631; Sat, 10 Feb 96 08:43:57 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25455; Sat, 10 Feb 96 08:43:54 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 08:43:54 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: John Krytus Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Getting around in a text file In-Reply-To: <4fi9hq$osm@spectator.cris.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 206 ^W^V and ^W^Y -teg On 10 Feb 1996, John Krytus wrote: > Can someone tell me if there is a keystroke in Pine to jump to > the beginning or end of a message. Many times I am quoting > from another large document and would like to use just one > sentence and discard the rest. > > Having a command to jump to beginning and end of document would > surely be useful. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 10 10:23:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03609; Sat, 10 Feb 96 10:23:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14014; Sat, 10 Feb 96 10:10:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14003; Sat, 10 Feb 96 10:10:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlJj5-00038RC; Sat, 10 Feb 96 10:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sbrody@okstate.edu (Brody Schmidt) Subject: Help, Using REMOTE news server Message-Id: <4ff2bg$3tc_001@snews.zippo.com> Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 10:00:03 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 207 I am having troubles getting pine to operate with a remote news service which requires authintication. I've tried about every type of configuration, with no luck. Any suggestions would be welcome Brody Schmidt sbrody@okstate.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 10 10:24:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03649; Sat, 10 Feb 96 10:24:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13926; Sat, 10 Feb 96 10:05:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gold.chem.Hawaii.Edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13920; Sat, 10 Feb 96 10:05:06 -0800 Received: from [204.162.179.229] (chi-pm2-5.freeppp.com) by gold.chem.hawaii.edu (4.1/gold-MX-1.9) id AA01166; Sat, 10 Feb 96 05:50:33 HST X-Sender: melanie@greatnet.uwcv.edu (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Reply-To: fax.number.or.smail.address.shown.below@thank.you Approved: moderator X-Priority: 2 (High) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 07:59:32 +0100 To: melanie@greatnet.uwcv.edu From: 1melanie@greatnet.uwcv.edu (Melanie Tsai) Subject: =====>>> *Fantastic* FREE offer I discovered on the 'net Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 208 -----> NOTE: Please first read my note which appears below the "Request for more info Form." Then, to get more info, just fill out the "Request for More Info" form completely and *FAX* or *SMAIL* it back to the company. You will get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of the info request form below. IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR THOSE FAXING IN THEIR REPLY: Please make sure you return *only* the below form and *no part* of this message other than the actual form below. If you do not know how to cut and paste the below form onto a fresh clean blank page for faxing, then you may re-type the below form, as long as you copy it line for line *exactly.* This is necessary in order for them to be able to process the tremendous number of replies that they get daily. Your fax goes directly onto their 4.2 gigabyte computer hard drive, not paper, and all incoming fax calls are set-up to be *auto-terminated* if your fax: 1. has a cover page; 2. is more than one page 3. does not begin with the "cut here/begin" line from the below form 4. does not end with the "cut here/end" line from the below form. 5. has any handwritten info. on it (info must must be filled out *only* with your computer keyboard or typewriter keyboard). This last provision re: no handwriting on the form applies to requests sent in via smail also. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ NOTE: Their fax line is open 24 hrs. per day / 7 days per week. If you have trouble getting through to their fax, or do not have a fax machine at work or at home, just drop the below form to them via smail (airmail or first class mail). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ *------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------* REQUEST FOR MORE INFO: please return *only* this section (with no cover page) via 1-page fax to: 718-967-1550 in the USA or via smail (first class mail or airmail) to: Magazine Club Inquiry Center Att. FREE Catalogue-by-email Dept. PO Box 990 Staten Island NY 10312-0990 Sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged. If you do not have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you until you do have one. If you saw this message, then you should have one. :) ---> SORRY, BUT NO HANDWRITTEN FORMS WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED. MUST BE TYPED-OUT ON YOUR COMPUTER OR TYPEWRITER. <--- Name: Internet email address: Smail home address: City-State-Zip: Country: Work Tel. #: Work Fax #: Home Tel. #: Home Fax #: How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of the internet that you saw us mentioned in): Referral by: Melanie Tsai. 021096-lnlnln Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail: Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you: Catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"): *------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------* Catalogue Format Options: 1. 19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total). 2. For more advanced computer users: attached text file ~525K - you must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to open it with your word processor. If in doubt, don't ask for this version. This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1 and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how to deal with this option. 3. For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea), ~133K. Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed. You just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands (unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as you still have to know how to deal with an attached file. It will cut your download time by 75%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. 4. For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with Stuffit(tm), ~114K. Can be decompressed by any computer user who has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files. This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your download time by 78%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. Hi fellow 'netters, My name is Melanie Tsai and I recently started using a magazine subscription club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them. They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country on a subscription basis. As for computer magazines from the USA, they more of a selection than I ever knew even existed. They have magazines for most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles. Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their competitors and even the publishers themselves. This is their price guarantee. Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines. On some titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge. They feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas. In the USA, people buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes or hours. They are so cheap in the USA! Well, this company would like to make it the same way for their overseas members. They are also cheaper than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the publishers themselves! This is their price guarantee. Around one-half their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language. Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and cut-out all the middlemen. They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student. I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my part-time software business! Please fill out the above form and carefully follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail. They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet. They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it. They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I haved moved from one country to another. They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA. They will give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular USA titles they sell. They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have clients in around 45 or 46 countries now. Outside the USA there is a charge for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie subs) that varies from magazine to magazine. I have found their staff to be very friendly and courteous. They even helped me with an address change when I moved from one country to another. The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members" (even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts as a new member. When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes he has one of his assistants call. He is kind of quirky sometimes - he insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!), but you can place future orders (after your first order) via E-mail. He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know just as much as he does about this magazine stuff. If you live overseas, he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long distance rates are cheaper then. He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing members and he does virtually no advertising. When I got set-up, they had a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately when you call. ) I think they are able to get back to prospective new members the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased their staff. I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above form to them, that is the way to get started! They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. They then send you email that outlines how his club works and the list of free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what he sells; and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly, no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and answer all your questions. Once you get in, you'll love them. I do. Sincerely, Melanie Tsai ps. please forward a copy of this message to all your friends on the net who you think might be interested in it! It is a great deal! If you join and then they join after you, you will earn a free 1 yr. subscription for each new person you get to join after you join! If you exceed 25 referrals, they let you use them to give away as gifts, for Christmas, Chanukah or any other occasion. Please be kind enough to mention my name when you join. I will then get a free magazine for a year for referring you. Thank you. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 10 12:06:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05881; Sat, 10 Feb 96 12:06:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15320; Sat, 10 Feb 96 11:58:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [206.203.63.1] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15314; Sat, 10 Feb 96 11:58:13 -0800 Received: from 3rd7.3rddoor.com ([206.203.63.207]) by 3rddoor.3rddoor.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA13800 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 15:00:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199602102000.PAA13800@3rddoor.3rddoor.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Chuck Libbey" <206.203.63.1@3rddoor.3rddoor.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 14:59:00 -0500 Subject: unsubscribe Reply-To: libbeyc@3rddoor.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 209 unsubscribe pine-info libbeyc@3rddoor.com Chuck Libbey From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 10 12:06:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05914; Sat, 10 Feb 96 12:06:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15285; Sat, 10 Feb 96 11:55:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15279; Sat, 10 Feb 96 11:55:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlLKS-00038RC; Sat, 10 Feb 96 11:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: 1melanie@greatnet.uwcv.edu (Melanie Tsai) Message-Id: Control: cancel <4fink8$h61@rain.psg.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <4fink8$h61@rain.psg.com> Date: 10 Feb 1996 18:29:22 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 210 Cancelled by jem@xpat.com. 823976962 KEV Original Subject was: =====>>> *Fantastic* FREE offer I discovered on the 'net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 10 12:36:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06631; Sat, 10 Feb 96 12:36:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15725; Sat, 10 Feb 96 12:26:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15719; Sat, 10 Feb 96 12:25:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlLoU-00038TC; Sat, 10 Feb 96 12:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "C.Pinto-Pereira" Subject: Re: Supressing automatic save of sent message Content-Type: multipart/mixed; Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 07:32:26 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 211 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------------------4941104918998 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Andrej Why do you don't do like me? One a week i delete the sent-file and it's finish ... :-| CArlos ________________________________________________________________________ Carlos Pinto-Pereira _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ CERN LHC / IAS _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ 1211 Genève 23 - CH _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ Tel: (022) 767 43 25 _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/_ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ \ _/_/ _/ _/ \ _/ _/ e_mail - Pinto-Pereira@cern.ch Url - http://nicewww.cern.ch/~pintopc/welcome.htm "La culture c'est ce qui reste quand on a tout oublie" ________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------4941104918998 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN Hi, list! The question: I have set Pine 3.91 to save sent messages by recipient. It works O.K. except when there is no To: line (it happens). Most annoying is the case of news posting. I don't then see Fcc header when composing, but if I hit ^R, I suddenly discovered that all news posting are saved in sent-mail folder. Pine makes it silently without even inform me about it. Is it possible to supress it? I don't normally save EVERY mail or news I send. thanks in advance Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------4941104918998-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 10 12:41:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06722; Sat, 10 Feb 96 12:41:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11488; Sat, 10 Feb 96 12:25:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11482; Sat, 10 Feb 96 12:25:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlLoT-00038RC; Sat, 10 Feb 96 12:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andrej Borsenkow Subject: Info on Content-Type: application/pgp needed Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 10:43:08 +0300 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 212 Hi, folks! I currently try to configure PGP support from out of mail reader (Pine 3.91) using .mailcap. At first attempt to request public key form key-server I got message of type: application/pgp ; format=keys-only The question is: where can I find info on application/pgp type to be able to proper configure .mailcap. I would prefer some sort of mail based archive server as I have problems with on-line connection. I would appreciate your copy of posting direct to me. much thanks in advance Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 10 13:26:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07663; Sat, 10 Feb 96 13:26:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12101; Sat, 10 Feb 96 13:11:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12095; Sat, 10 Feb 96 13:11:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlMUv-00038RC; Sat, 10 Feb 96 13:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Gregory J. Hickel" Subject: Win95, Pine, & HyperTerminal Printing? Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 21:08:26 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 213 I am using HyperTerminal on Win95 to connect to a Unix server and use Pine. The Print to ANSI does not work. The computer just hangs. I know that the option works OK as I have used it on other computers (under Win 3.1 and on Macs). Thanks for any help! Greg Hickel gjhickel@server.wulaw.wustl.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 10 14:40:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08957; Sat, 10 Feb 96 14:40:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17272; Sat, 10 Feb 96 14:31:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17266; Sat, 10 Feb 96 14:31:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlNme-00038RC; Sat, 10 Feb 96 14:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Gingiss Subject: Re: Distribution List Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 14:06:53 -0600 Message-Id: References: <31135373.71D2@computernets.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <31135373.71D2@computernets.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 214 Wendy: I didn't see an answer to your question, so here goes. Distribution lists are done in the Address Book. Select Address Book from the main menu and then press "S," Create List. Peter ---------- Peter Gingiss Tel: 743-2974 Department of English Fax: 721-3654 University of Houston Houston,Texas 77204-3012 PJGingiss@uh.edu On Sat, 3 Feb 1996, Wendy Weathers wrote: > Does anybody know how many e-mail Id's can be put on a distribution list > in Pine does it have a limit? Or is the limit up to the Sys Admin? > -- > Wendy Weathers > Computernets > P.O. Box 370 > Livermore, Ca 94551-0370 > 510.449.1982 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 10 16:38:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10712; Sat, 10 Feb 96 16:38:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14208; Sat, 10 Feb 96 16:26:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14202; Sat, 10 Feb 96 16:26:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlPZa-00038RC; Sat, 10 Feb 96 16:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bhaskaran edwina Subject: read only?? Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 14:18:00 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 215 Next to my folder list I am getting a 'read only' message what does this mean? How can I get rid of it? It is unabling me to delete any mesages. HELP HELP HELP!!!!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 10 20:36:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14809; Sat, 10 Feb 96 20:36:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21215; Sat, 10 Feb 96 20:23:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from socrates.nmia.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21209; Sat, 10 Feb 96 20:23:21 -0800 Received: from plato.nmia.com by nmia.com with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0tlTLN-000LFqC; Sat, 10 Feb 96 21:24 MST Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 21:25:13 -0700 (MST) From: Ozz Graham To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PIne question Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 216 I'm new, brand spanking new actually. I run a small mailing list(about 325 members) for my wife. We're having trouble using PIne sending out the "digest" formats. Pine is sending the first 13 lines of it, adn then no more. But, heres a little background on what we are doing. People send me mail, I export it to a file on my home directory, download it, and edit it(somewhat), attach the "header"(header is a 13 line ASCII that gives the name of the list, membership total, date, amount of messages and total amount of lines that are in that digest. I upload it back online(I use a PC, adn my ISP is a UNIX based), and then I compose, CTRL-R for rich header, add my email address to the top,a dn the first group of 50 names in BCC. I add a subject, usually the name of the list and a date, and then read the file I uploaded back online adn send it off. What some members are getting are only the first 13 lines, adn nothing else. Does anyone have any clues for me? Ozz Graham ozzg@nmia.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 10 20:43:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14941; Sat, 10 Feb 96 20:43:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21322; Sat, 10 Feb 96 20:31:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21316; Sat, 10 Feb 96 20:31:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlTOx-00038TC; Sat, 10 Feb 96 20:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joseph and Figen Tek-Puentes Subject: Re: read only?? Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 00:02:54 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 217 I don't know but I just had the same problem for two days. When I sent an email to my service provider (Balt. Co. Pub. Lib.) they said that pine was closing, but was still thinking it was open or something like that and that they corrected the problem from their end. But this brings me to my question. Sometimes when I open Pine and go to the INBOX and then later press L to get to the folders it seems to get hung up and stay hung for a long time. I can't wait forever and hope that it will unhang itself so I just turn off my modem and redial (I usually give it a good four or five minutes before I do this). Am I doing something wrong? Or can I do something different when this happens. Did I contribute to putting myself into that READ ONLY problem? Anyway??????? Thanks, Joseph On Fri, 9 Feb 1996, bhaskaran edwina wrote: > Next to my folder list I am getting a 'read only' message what does this > mean? How can I get rid of it? It is unabling me to delete any mesages. > HELP HELP HELP!!!!! > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 11 00:38:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18513; Sun, 11 Feb 96 00:38:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19642; Sun, 11 Feb 96 00:28:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19633; Sun, 11 Feb 96 00:28:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlX76-00038TC; Sun, 11 Feb 96 00:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chester Paul S'groi Subject: Suggestions for future version of Pine. Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 00:16:07 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 218 Greetings: Following are suggestions for a future version of Pine. 1. Autodowload feature in Pine allowing one the option to send message and attachments to one's own computer/disk via a protocol like ZModem or Kermit. 2. The ability to also print stuff from the stand-alone Pico editor without having to mail files to oneself and printing out of pine. :) 3. Either a better spell checker, or the option to link the Pine and Pico editor to a better spell checker from the user point of view. Many thanks NAME: Chester Paul S'groi (Pax Christi) OCCUPATION: Student of Religious Studies & Academic Computing Support Staff E-MAIL: cps1@axe.humboldt.edu, cps1@sorrel.humboldt.edu, HOME PAGE: http://www.humboldt.edu/~cps1, nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~csgroi ADDRESS: Post Office Box 4346 - Arcata, CA 95518-4346 U.S.A. WORK PHONE: (707) 826 - 4484 HOME PHONE: (707) 822 - 1234 SAYING: "Curiosity may have killed the cat but a cat has nine lives!" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 11 06:19:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26252; Sun, 11 Feb 96 06:19:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27817; Sun, 11 Feb 96 06:08:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27811; Sun, 11 Feb 96 06:08:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlcQA-00038TC; Sun, 11 Feb 96 06:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bwrob@smartt.com Subject: My Pine for OS2 problem? Date: Sat, 10 Feb 96 10:12:45 Message-Id: <4finn8$6cu@ktk2.smartt.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 219 Hi I can not post new posting in Pine for OS2 Warp. When I try to Post NEW posting it seems that it is trying to get news group and exits with a message that there is an error in Pine. But I thougth I got it working before. It could be first version. Or there is something wrong with my Pine setup. Any idea? Thanks bob bwrob@smartt.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 11 06:55:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27318; Sun, 11 Feb 96 06:55:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23632; Sun, 11 Feb 96 06:43:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23626; Sun, 11 Feb 96 06:43:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlcva-00038TC; Sun, 11 Feb 96 06:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Help, uuencode from Pine?!?! Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 20:32:42 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 220 On Tue, 6 Feb 1996, Gregory J. Hickel wrote: > Is there ANY way to get Pine to send attachments uuencoded instead of > MIME encoded? Sure. If nothing else, do what I do: UUENCODE the file separately and then include it in an email with Ctrl-R in the Pine composer. It will be part of the message body itself rather than an attachment. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 11 07:36:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28219; Sun, 11 Feb 96 07:36:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23988; Sun, 11 Feb 96 07:23:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23982; Sun, 11 Feb 96 07:23:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tldYO-00038RC; Sun, 11 Feb 96 07:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hendee@wave.aoml.erl.gov (Jim Hendee) Subject: NNTP-server Date: 11 Feb 1996 14:53:22 GMT Message-Id: <4fkvt2$613@nil.aoml.noaa.gov> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 221 When I try to post a follow up to a Newsgroup, after an answer comes to me, I get the message, "Can't post. NNTP-server not defined." I am using this under Unix. Can anyone help me determine where I need to fix what? thanks, Jim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 11 08:18:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29086; Sun, 11 Feb 96 08:18:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24458; Sun, 11 Feb 96 08:11:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from x400gate.bnr.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24452; Sun, 11 Feb 96 08:11:40 -0800 X400-Received: by mta bnr.ca in /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 21:17:44 -0500 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 21:17:37 -0500 X400-Received: by /PRMD=bnr/ADMD=telecom.canada/C=ca/; Relayed; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 21:17:30 -0500 X400-Received: by /PRMD=bnr/ADMD=telecom.canada/C=ca/; Relayed; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 21:17:30 -0500 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 21:17:30 -0500 X400-Originator: /dd.id=1660747/g=peter/i=pw/s=whittaker/@bnr.ca X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Message-Id: To: sdm7g%virginia.edu@bnr.ca Cc: pine-info%cac.washington.edu@bnr.ca In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Aggregation not really useful? X-Sender: pww@bwdlh590 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 222 On Fri, 9 Feb 1996 sdm7g%virginia.edu@bcars735 wrote: > On 8 Feb 1996, Peter Whittaker wrote: > > The ';' command is useful for searching messages, or viewing a subset of > > messages via the zoom command. Unfortunately, zoom seems to be the only > > command that can take advantage of aggregates. It would nice to be able > > to use aggregates in a manner analogous to elm's tagging feature. > > > > My favourite use would be to save multiple messages to the same folder. > > > > What chance of seeing this in a future version of pine? > > You don't need to wait for a future version: The "A" / Apply command, > followed by another command key ( like 'S'ave, for instance ) will > do what you want - i.e. apply the command to the entire selected set > of messages. Thanks! pww From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 11 09:14:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01087; Sun, 11 Feb 96 09:14:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29525; Sun, 11 Feb 96 09:03:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29517; Sun, 11 Feb 96 09:03:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlf9S-00038RC; Sun, 11 Feb 96 09:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mchin@rs7.tcs.tulane.edu (Mark Chin) Subject: Pine and spell checking Date: 8 Feb 1996 06:36:19 GMT Message-Id: <4fc5l3$deq@rs10.tcs.tulane.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 223 I have a problem with pine I hope someone can help me with. When I try to spell check a document I get this whole list of options that appear in the text of my letter. I think this is a problem with pico. Can anyone help configure this properly? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 11 09:26:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01695; Sun, 11 Feb 96 09:26:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25162; Sun, 11 Feb 96 09:18:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25156; Sun, 11 Feb 96 09:18:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlfLZ-00038TC; Sun, 11 Feb 96 09:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barr@shrsys.hslc.org (JOHN BARR) Subject: Expunging the wastebasket ?? Message-Id: <1996Feb9.154909@shrsys.hslc.org> Date: 9 Feb 96 15:49:09 -0500 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 224 We're running VMS PINE. It seems that the wastebasket is not expunged automatically on exiting Pine, but you must go to the folder first then exit. Doing this, you will be promted to expunge the wastebasket. I looked in setup but did not see a setting for auto-purge. Is it possible? or do we have to "manually" expunge the wastebasket? Thanks for any suggestions, \ John Barr Voice: (215) 222-1532 \\ HSLC Fax: (215) 222-0416 \\\\ 3600 Market St., Suite 550 \\\\\\ Philadelphia, PA 19104-2646 E-mail: barr@hslc.org H S L C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 11 12:21:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07886; Sun, 11 Feb 96 12:21:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27095; Sun, 11 Feb 96 12:08:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27089; Sun, 11 Feb 96 12:08:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tli1E-00038TC; Sun, 11 Feb 96 12:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Humberto E. Soriano, M.D." Subject: File transfer to PC in Unix environment Date: 9 Feb 1996 23:26:58 GMT Message-Id: <4fgl82$8m5@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 225 Thanks for your help on: "no routing to folders available in Pine" Is it possible to transfer a file from the INBOX directly to my PC without having to go through the UNIX environment from where I use Pine? I can print the files into my local printer but when I try to transfer them Pine sends them to the UNIX file area rather than to my local PC. Appreciate your help!!! humberto From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 11 12:22:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07928; Sun, 11 Feb 96 12:22:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01705; Sun, 11 Feb 96 12:03:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01697; Sun, 11 Feb 96 12:03:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlhwt-00038RC; Sun, 11 Feb 96 12:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: w_sloan@figaro.rome.netwide.net (w_sloan) Subject: *****Warning: Forger amongst us****** Message-Id: <277cc$b3425.a4@rome.netwide.net> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 16:52:36 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 226 PSA: A reader/poster amongst our newsgroups, Glen P. Ramsey, gpramsey@dircon.co.uk, is attempting to *FORGE* postings. This is a *serious* breach of RFC1036 (let alone netiquette) and could result in the ultimate Usenet penalty for his server. If you do not want to see shameless forgeries or possibly "mysterious" cancellations, and if you do not want the valued contributors (ie. you!) in this forum reduced to using long and repetitious PGP signatures to protect themselves, then SPEAK OUT AND STOP FORGERS! COMPLAIN to: Glen P. Ramsey gpramsey@dircon.co.uk AND to: Trevor Diamond Business Development Manager, Direct Connection (sys-admin) trevord@dircon.co.uk postmaster@dircon.co.uk !!!!STOP FORGERIES NOW!!!! *****************Evidence from usenet archives follows**************** > Subject: WANTED: completely configurable reader > From: gpramsey@dircon.co.uk (Glen) > Organization: Direct Connection > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 14:38:19 GMT > Newsgroups: alt.2600,alt.ph.uk,alt.hacker > Message-ID: <4dgdau$1ju@newsgate.dircon.co.uk> > > I need a Usenet reader that will allow me to alter _all_ header info. > > Basically, a reader that will work using the IHAVE command directly? > > Allowing _me_ to alter all information sent to the server at every > stage. > > Specifically for Windows 3.1 > > Thanks-Glen. >From: gpramsey@dircon.co.uk (Glen) >Newsgroups: alt.2600 >Subject: tech req: article field amending (not anon) (ref: ihave) >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 15:48:05 GMT >Organization: Direct Connection >Lines: 20 >Message-ID: <4d3bhh$bno@newsgate.dircon.co.uk> >NNTP-Posting-Host: gw4-155.pool.dircon.co.uk >X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 > >i use an internet subscriber in the uk. cut to the chase: their domain >name appears in some of my fields (ie: message-ID) all I want to do is >change this to my domain (i now have my own unique domain name). > >i suppose i would go about this the same way you would if anonymous >postings was your wish - instead of an illegal (none existant) mail >address i want to put my own domain name there. > >i have read about ihave but am not sure on the exact technical usage >of this - i have quite a bit of technical knowledge, but obviously not >enough. > >if you can help on the above that would be great - i am also aware >that i may need the use of a news server that will allow ihave - how >do i find one in the uk? > >with thanks, > >glen. >From: gpramsey@dircon.co.uk (Glen) >Newsgroups: alt.2600,alt.anonymous,alt.hacker.alt.ph.uk >Subject: NewsBrowser that harnesses the IHAVE command etc >Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 18:05:40 GMT >Organization: Direct Connection >Lines: 7 >Message-ID: <4de53j$k5i@newsgate.dircon.co.uk> >NNTP-Posting-Host: gw4-193.pool.dircon.co.uk >X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 > >Anyone know of any software for Windows that will allow me to use the >IHAVE command? Rather than working in telnet and cutting and pasting >my texts from my current news browser there must be a nice piece of >Windows software that makes it all look pretty? > >Cheers-Glen. >From: gpramsey@dircon.co.uk (Glen) >Newsgroups: alt.anonymous >Subject: Article Header Fields >Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 12:56:59 GMT >Organization: Direct Connection >Lines: 13 >Message-ID: <4d8a8t$1f1@newsgate.dircon.co.uk> >NNTP-Posting-Host: gw4-174.pool.dircon.co.uk >X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 > >Is there any way in altering all my header fields, particularly >message-id and NNTP-server. > >I have my own domain and would like to include it instead of my >internet access providers in the above fields. > >I've read a bit about the IHAVE command, but am not quite sure on its >usage and what servers I can use it with. > >Any help and/or FAQ would be appreciated, > >Regards-Glen. >From: paid@diircona.co.uk (Your+Name~Here) >Newsgroups: alt.test >Subject: yuppp: test~111 >Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 18:53:43 GMT >Lines: 3 >Message-ID: <19it7xd1.083157.98@diircona.co.uk> >X-NNTP-Posting-Host: gw4-194.pool.dircon.co.uk > >hello! :@) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 11 16:33:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12406; Sun, 11 Feb 96 16:33:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04880; Sun, 11 Feb 96 16:24:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04874; Sun, 11 Feb 96 16:24:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlm02-00038RC; Sun, 11 Feb 96 16:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 ? Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 16:59:16 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4f85ra$s24@natasha.rmii.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 227 On 6 Feb 1996, David L Miller wrote: > > On 6 Feb 1996, Jon Trulson wrote: > > > Alicher Alikhodjaev (cher@ns.phys.msu.su) wrote: > > : Hi, All! > > : Could anyone tell me when subj. get released ? > > : And what about international support in next release? > > > > I'd be interested in this too. I read the 3.91 future > > improvements section, and I'd really really like a mailer that can > > handle pgp enc/dec/signature etc... However, judging by the date on > > their ftp archive, pine hasn't been updated in over a year... Is > > anyone still developing it? > > > > We're still working on it, but we got up such a good head of steam > that it's been hard to put the brakes on to get a new release out ;) I must admit, it is probably time for a release of some sort. Most at cac.washington.edu seem to already be using pine3.92 in whatever form it may happen to be in. Keep up the good work. Ian Ollmann From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 11 18:48:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14585; Sun, 11 Feb 96 18:48:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01824; Sun, 11 Feb 96 18:38:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from crow.cybercomm.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01818; Sun, 11 Feb 96 18:38:30 -0800 Received: (from puccini@localhost) by crow.cybercomm.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA14993; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 21:39:50 -0500 Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 21:39:48 -0500 (EST) From: Puccini To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 228 Thank you for the FAQ, however my 2 questions were not answered 1. How does one copy multiple names from an address book at one time? 2. How does one delete multiple newsgroup answers at one time. When you subscribe, you often have 1000+ messages. david From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 11 22:36:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18007; Sun, 11 Feb 96 22:36:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04579; Sun, 11 Feb 96 22:30:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04573; Sun, 11 Feb 96 22:30:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlrk7-00038RC; Sun, 11 Feb 96 22:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dprice@mcs.com (Dennis Price) Subject: No "new mail" in read-only mode Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 05:19:48 GMT Message-Id: <311ecc32.7432396@news.mcs.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 229 Hello, I have a question maybe someone can answer regarding Unix Pine 3.91 being used in "read-only" mode. I sent this to "Bug Reports" via the "B" option within Pine, but the mail was returned undeliverable. (??) I'm wondering if it was it a design decision, or a bug, to NOT allow new mail to arrive in Pine when using "pine -o" (read-only) mode? The current behavior is inconvenient because I have to EXIT Pine and re-enter it in order to check for any newly arrived messages. In case you're wondering, it seems to work fine starting Pine without the "-o" option, but then it has the ability to modify my INBOX, which I'd rather avoid. I use a POP mail reader over a dial-up connection as my primary reader, but constantly telnet in to my account from work during the day to check my mail, and I use Pine. So, I use "read-only" mode so that everything will appear on my POP mailreader at night. The problem is, I have to keep exiting and re-starting Pine all day in order to recieve new messages. I'd like to see the INBOX be "read-only" but still allow new mail to be received and displayed when in "read-only" mode. Is this a possible bug fix, or future enhancement (depending on how it was meant to work)? Anyone have any suggestions? Is it just me? Thanks for your time, Dennis Price dprice@mcs.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 11 23:04:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18609; Sun, 11 Feb 96 23:04:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09540; Sun, 11 Feb 96 22:55:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09534; Sun, 11 Feb 96 22:55:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tls6a-00038RC; Sun, 11 Feb 96 22:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dprice@mcs.com (Dennis Price) Subject: Re: read only?? Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 05:23:42 GMT Message-Id: <311ece3a.7952865@news.mcs.net> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 230 Well, one possible cause of this would be that Pine was started up in "read-only" mode. In the Unix version, this is done with "pine -o". Just an idea... On Fri, 9 Feb 1996 14:18:00 -0500, bhaskaran edwina wrote: > Next to my folder list I am getting a 'read only' message what does this > mean? How can I get rid of it? It is unabling me to delete any mesages. > HELP HELP HELP!!!!! > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 00:05:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19693; Mon, 12 Feb 96 00:05:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05718; Mon, 12 Feb 96 00:00:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from temasek.teleview.com.sg by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05712; Mon, 12 Feb 96 00:00:55 -0800 Received: from temasek.teleview.com.sg (temasek.teleview.com.sg [165.21.40.20]) by temasek.teleview.com.sg (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA09979 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 16:00:53 +0800 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 16:00:53 +0800 (SST) From: Chan Ping Yau To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine info you requested (last changed Sep 12 15:05) (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 231 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 14:19:23 +0800 (SST) From: Chan Ping Yau To: UW Email Robot Subject: Re: Pine info you requested (last changed Sep 12 15:05) Hi, Pine ! Thanks for notifying me about 'Pine', I just subscribed to TELEVIEW SING_NET and started using 'pine' for my inernet emails. I have tried to print hard copy of help manual but not successed. I am using PC and Canon BJ20 printer, can you please advise me how can I get print out from 'pine'. Regards/Alex From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 00:17:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19992; Mon, 12 Feb 96 00:17:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05710; Mon, 12 Feb 96 00:00:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from access1.digex.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05704; Mon, 12 Feb 96 00:00:34 -0800 Received: (from rdadams@localhost) by access1.digex.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA23652 ; for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 03:00:28 -0500 From: Dick Adams Message-Id: <199602120800.DAA23652@access1.digex.net> Subject: pico right margin and top/bottom commands To: dlm@cac.washington.edu Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 03:00:25 -0500 (EST) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, rdadams@ubmail.ubalt.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 735 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 232 David, I moderate a newsgroup (misc.taxes.moderated) and use PICO as my editor under ELM. My problem is very simple. I want to edit initial posts and followup comments so that their line length at time of posting is 64 characters. Two reasons: (1) some posters (AOL in particular) have no concept of line length and (2) from where the right margin is now set, it is easy to wrap lines when quoting a second or third time. Also is there a way to go to the top and/or the bottom of a file. Terrific editor!!! Especially like the CNTL-K cut and copy function and the CNTL-U recover from ill-considered justification. BTW: My ISP has PICO 2.5 Dick Richard D. Adams, CPA Assistant Professor of Accounting University of Baltimore From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 01:13:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21212; Mon, 12 Feb 96 01:13:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06497; Mon, 12 Feb 96 01:00:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06491; Mon, 12 Feb 96 01:00:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlu4j-00038RC; Mon, 12 Feb 96 00:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 ? Message-Id: References: <4f85ra$s24@natasha.rmii.com> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 08:21:33 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 233 David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) decia: : We're still working on it, but we got up such a good head of steam : that it's been hard to put the brakes on to get a new release out ;) : |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 : |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) : University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 : 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA But more important... if you look what kind of program he used to post.... you'll see: > Pine.ULT.3.92.... Pucho (who wishes he could be "beta" "alpha" or whatever of pine ;) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 05:08:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26403; Mon, 12 Feb 96 05:08:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14082; Mon, 12 Feb 96 04:55:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14076; Mon, 12 Feb 96 04:55:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlxkX-00038RC; Mon, 12 Feb 96 04:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jkrytus@cris.com (John Krytus) Subject: deleting messages in index folder Date: 12 Feb 1996 11:22:04 GMT Message-Id: <4fn7ss$pqt@spectator.cris.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 234 Is there a way to delete currently marked messages in the index folder without exiting? Thanks! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 05:11:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26453; Mon, 12 Feb 96 05:11:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09558; Mon, 12 Feb 96 04:55:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09552; Mon, 12 Feb 96 04:55:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlxlC-00038TC; Mon, 12 Feb 96 04:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jkrytus@cris.com (John Krytus) Subject: deleting messages in INBOX folder Date: 12 Feb 1996 11:25:54 GMT Message-Id: <4fn842$prp@spectator.cris.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 235 Is there a way to delete messages marked for deletion in the INBOX folder without exiting the pine program? Thanks! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 06:18:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27763; Mon, 12 Feb 96 06:18:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14922; Mon, 12 Feb 96 06:06:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14916; Mon, 12 Feb 96 06:06:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlysa-00038WC; Mon, 12 Feb 96 06:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Richard P. O'Sullivan" Subject: Un-Expanding Address Book? Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 08:13:50 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 236 Is there a way to collapse the Address book without jumping to Main and returning? Just one of those little things. Rick __ __ __ __ __ __ ---------------------__/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\__----------------------- Altofirma WebWords /\_\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\_\ Richard P. O'Sullivan http://www.aww.com/ \/_/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/_/ rosully@aww.com --------------------- \/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/ ----------------------- Cookie De Jour -------------- To criticize the incompetent is easy; to criticize the competent is difficult. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 06:48:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28620; Mon, 12 Feb 96 06:48:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10688; Mon, 12 Feb 96 06:26:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10682; Mon, 12 Feb 96 06:26:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlz6B-00038WC; Mon, 12 Feb 96 06:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hurtta@dionysos.fmi.fi (Kari E. Hurtta) Subject: Re: Info on Content-Type: application/pgp needed Date: 11 Feb 1996 17:39:40 GMT Message-Id: <4fl9ks$44t@kronos.fmi.fi> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Article of Andrej Borsenkow Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 237 Andrej Borsenkow writes: »I currently try to configure PGP support from out of mail reader (Pine »3.91) using .mailcap. At first attempt to request public key form »key-server I got message of type: »application/pgp ; format=keys-only »The question is: where can I find info on application/pgp type to be able to »proper configure .mailcap. I guess that something like following may work (or not -- that is suggestion of Micheal Elkins for Elm): application/pgp; pgp +verbose=0 %s; \ test=test %{format} = keys-only; needsterminal application/pgp; pgp +verbose=0 -f; copiousoutput; needsterminal application/x-pgp-public-key; pgp +verbose=0 %s; needsterminal application/x-pgp-message; pgp +verbose=0 -f; needsterminal; copiousoutput Perhapas something like following may be needed between of first and second entry in above (not secure and NOT tested): application/pgp; \ pgp +verbose=0 %s -o %s.plain && metamail -z %s.plain || rm -f %s.plain; \ test=test %{format} = mime; needsterminal; copiousoutput »I would prefer some sort of mail based archive server as I have problems »with on-line connection. »I would appreciate your copy of posting direct to me. [ cc'ed to questioner. ] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 07:19:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29225; Mon, 12 Feb 96 07:19:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15732; Mon, 12 Feb 96 07:04:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15720; Mon, 12 Feb 96 07:04:25 -0800 Received: from ciint by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA02544 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Mon, 12 Feb 1996 16:04:11 +0100 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa14574; 12 Feb 96 15:56 WET Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 15:56:28 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering To: John Krytus Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: deleting messages in INBOX folder In-Reply-To: <4fn842$prp@spectator.cris.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 238 On 12 Feb 1996, John Krytus wrote: > Is there a way to delete messages marked for deletion in the INBOX folder > without exiting the pine program? > > Thanks! > Yes there is! Just type "X" for eXpunge. That's all there is to it! Regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | ...at a time when men were REAL men and | | CI International B.V. | wrote their own device drivers (Linus) | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 07:37:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29777; Mon, 12 Feb 96 07:37:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15844; Mon, 12 Feb 96 07:11:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15838; Mon, 12 Feb 96 07:11:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tlzq8-00038TC; Mon, 12 Feb 96 07:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Signatures in Pine Date: 29 Jan 1996 09:31:08 -0800 Message-Id: <4ej08s$f7f@shellx.best.com> References: <4e0bom$pai@senior.nectec.or.th> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 239 apattser@mozart.inet.co.th (Apatt) writes: >Could somebody please tell me how to put signatures at the end of >Pine messages? For lots and lots of info about sigs in Pine, and more, see: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/archive/signature_finger_faq/ Good luck, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 08:28:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01581; Mon, 12 Feb 96 08:28:59 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12246; Mon, 12 Feb 96 08:07:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12240; Mon, 12 Feb 96 08:07:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tm0c1-00038RC; Mon, 12 Feb 96 07:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gweisz@ra (Gideon Weisz) Subject: special characters in subject line -- how was it done? Date: 12 Feb 1996 13:58:50 GMT Message-Id: <4fnh2r$681@thoth.nilenet.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 240 how can someone be getting special characters (code 224 and up) into the pine subject line? does that mean someone is doing serious hacking (and possibly messing with security)? or is it simple? gideon -- gideon weisz ïåòãâ [boulder, colorado] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 08:45:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02420; Mon, 12 Feb 96 08:45:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16850; Mon, 12 Feb 96 08:07:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16844; Mon, 12 Feb 96 08:07:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tm0cm-00038TC; Mon, 12 Feb 96 07:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hacker@bellcore.com (Jon Hacker) Subject: Re: Pine for OS/2 uploaded to hobbes Message-Id: References: <4dj24d$iv1@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:53:03 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 241 >> I installed PINE for OS/2 on my Warp/connect machine. BUT ... it sucks up all >> available cycles, even when doing no more that waiting for keyboard input. >> This is indicated both by very balky behavior (i.e. bringing another window to >> the foreground may take 30 seconds to a minute), and buy the Pulse cpu >> monitor that comes with Warp. >> You need the later pine391a.zip version that fixes the CPU hogging. Jon Hacker From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 09:13:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04027; Mon, 12 Feb 96 09:13:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13180; Mon, 12 Feb 96 08:41:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13174; Mon, 12 Feb 96 08:41:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tm1Gv-00038VC; Mon, 12 Feb 96 08:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Andrews Subject: Re: Making Pine use full height and width of screen Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 08:11:41 -0800 Message-Id: References: <9602110150.AA06014@ea831.fnal.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9602110150.AA06014@ea831.fnal.gov> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 242 Thanks - 'stty rows nn' made pine work use my full screen. My only remaining question is how to set this up automatically! On Sat, 10 Feb 1996, Art Kreymer wrote: > On systems where > stty rows nn > works, that will set up the correct PINE screen behaviour. > You can double check the setting with > stty -a > or > tput lines. > > On IRIX 5.3, I still don't know how to set this up. > SETENV LINES nn has no effect. > > If I first log in to OSF1, then telnet to IRIX 5.3, the correct setting > is somehow passed through, as shown by > tput lines > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 10:29:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08173; Mon, 12 Feb 96 10:29:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15761; Mon, 12 Feb 96 10:04:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [206.203.63.1] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15747; Mon, 12 Feb 96 10:04:50 -0800 Received: from 3rd6.3rddoor.com ([206.203.63.206]) by 3rddoor.3rddoor.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA22167 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 13:07:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199602121807.NAA22167@3rddoor.3rddoor.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Chuck Libbey" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 13:05:43 -0500 Subject: unsubscribe Reply-To: libbeyc@3rddoor.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 243 unsubscribe libbeyc@3rddoor.com Chuck Libbey From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 11:06:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09880; Mon, 12 Feb 96 11:06:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21709; Mon, 12 Feb 96 10:46:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21702; Mon, 12 Feb 96 10:46:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tm3Ep-00038RC; Mon, 12 Feb 96 10:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mraaum@uio.no (Margrete Raaum) Subject: Re: deleting messages in INBOX folder Date: 12 Feb 1996 16:01:36 GMT Message-Id: <4fno90$j8q@ratatosk.uio.no> References: <4fn842$prp@spectator.cris.com> In-Reply-To: <4fn842$prp@spectator.cris.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 244 In article <4fn842$prp@spectator.cris.com>, Jkrytus@cris.com (John Krytus) writes: >Is there a way to delete messages marked for deletion in the INBOX folder >without exiting the pine program? d for Delete x for eXpunge Mrg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 11:32:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11206; Mon, 12 Feb 96 11:32:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18023; Mon, 12 Feb 96 11:16:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lbbc.lb.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18011; Mon, 12 Feb 96 11:16:06 -0800 Received: by lbbc.lb.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA185688; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 13:13:30 -0600 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 13:13:29 -0600 (CST) From: Kim Scarborough To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Accessing newsgroups from a remote server Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 245 I know you guys have probably had a few people ask this question already, so please forgive the redundancy. I use Pine at my work. It works fine for E-mail, but the server here doesn't get any newsgroups. I have an account at a university server which does have newsgroups, but it's awkward to telnet there and use their Pine. I tried setting the "nntp-server" with the server address, the same I have Netscape set to when I'm using it to get news (but I use Netscape through a PPP connection to the University server, so I'm already logged on), and it tells me "invalid remote specification". This makes a certain amount of sense, because I need a login name and a password to get to my university account, and I haven't told Pine what those are. How do I configure this? I have a hunch it has something to do with the "news-collections" setting, which I haven't messed with. Can anyone help? Please respond to me personally, because I don't subscribe to this mailing list. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "In a democracy, people get the kind of government they deserve." -Adlai Stevenson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 13:19:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17145; Mon, 12 Feb 96 13:19:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20829; Mon, 12 Feb 96 12:46:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20823; Mon, 12 Feb 96 12:46:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tm57W-00038TC; Mon, 12 Feb 96 12:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: iii@gate.net (Raj Rajagopalan) Subject: How to procmail bounce? Date: 12 Feb 1996 10:12:31 -0500 Message-Id: <4fnlcv$25h2@navajo.gate.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 246 Hi everyone, I can filter my incoming mail to different folders but would like to bounce all mail not for my IDs back with a note. Could someone enlighten me on how I can do that in Procmail or point me to a FAQ on the subject ? thanks, raj From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 13:22:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17253; Mon, 12 Feb 96 13:22:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25713; Mon, 12 Feb 96 12:56:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25707; Mon, 12 Feb 96 12:56:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tm5G9-00038RC; Mon, 12 Feb 96 12:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ctorlins@crl.com (Christoph Torlinsky) Subject: Security issues with PINE Date: 12 Feb 1996 11:24:48 -0800 Message-Id: <4fo460$e96@crl.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 247 I have PINE 3.91 , and I was wondering if there were any security concerns when making Pine available to users? I have placed it in usr/local/bin and now all the users on the system are able to use it. Should I be wary of any holes that exist in PINE? set permissions on PINE and things like that? Ahyhow thanks... I run it on the following os/es Solaris 2.5 Dynix/pTX 2.1.1 (Sequent) and SunOS 4.1.4 Other than that I love pine...its very good for email, better than elm thats for sure. chris From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 13:51:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18829; Mon, 12 Feb 96 13:51:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26990; Mon, 12 Feb 96 13:26:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26984; Mon, 12 Feb 96 13:26:50 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22745; Mon, 12 Feb 96 13:26:41 -0800 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 13:26:36 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Chester Paul S'groi Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Suggestions for future version of Pine. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 248 On Sun, 11 Feb 1996, Chester Paul S'groi wrote: > Following are suggestions for a future version of Pine. > > 1. Autodowload feature in Pine allowing one the option to send message > and attachments to one's own computer/disk via a protocol like ZModem or > Kermit. > This will be available in Unix Pine 3.92. Presumably it will be included in PMDF Pine 3.92, but you'll have to consult Innosoft about that... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 15:12:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22580; Mon, 12 Feb 96 15:12:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29470; Mon, 12 Feb 96 14:54:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29456; Mon, 12 Feb 96 14:53:53 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 12 Feb 1996 12:30:00 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA16130; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 12:06:01 GMT Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 12:06:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: R R Neuswanger Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: follow-up (not reply) from pine? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 249 Pine simply uses the nomenclature "Reply" where dedicated news reader program use "follow-up". (This is to keep a common realm of concepts for e-mail and News within Pine -- one "replies to" an e-mail, not "follows-up to" it) So doing the steps you suggest should indeed work. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 6 Feb 1996, R R Neuswanger wrote: > The standard directions for misc.test.moderated says to test your > connection by using the follow-up function, not the reply function, on > the message containing the directions (the welcome message). _Is_ there > any such distinct function in pine? If I use the reply command, say yes > to posting, then delete the (apparent) addressee other than the > newsgroup, will that do it?? > > > R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Death is not evil. > rrne@loc.gov Suffering is evil. > I speak for me. Only. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 15:19:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22918; Mon, 12 Feb 96 15:19:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25267; Mon, 12 Feb 96 15:12:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25257; Mon, 12 Feb 96 15:12:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tm7P1-00038TC; Mon, 12 Feb 96 15:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Richard G. Roberto" Subject: Q: How do I subscribe? Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 10:47:37 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 250 I would like to subscribe to this mailing list, if there is a mailing list available for this news group. I don't get the chance to monitor the news group enough and need to follow threads, etc. I would also be interested in hearing from anyone who knows of a way to filter news. I remember a thread not too long ago about how rude it is to post to a news group and ask for an e-mail reply. Someone in that argument mentioned subscribing to news groups noninteractively and filtering the news. This would be ideal. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. E-mail responses are of course welcome, but I will try like hell to monitor this news group closely over the next week or so as well. Thanks in advance. Richard G. Roberto richr@bear.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 15:24:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23056; Mon, 12 Feb 96 15:24:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29991; Mon, 12 Feb 96 15:12:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29979; Mon, 12 Feb 96 15:12:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tm7Pd-00038UC; Mon, 12 Feb 96 15:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tom@jis.com (Tom Pantazi) Subject: Help - Pine only comes up in readonly mode Date: 12 Feb 1996 15:10:12 GMT Message-Id: <4fnl8k$6v2@alterdial.UU.NET> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 251 I have a BSDi 2.0 unix platform on a pentium which used to run Pine perfectly. Recently, something changed and now whenever a user accesses Pine it will only come up in readonly mode. I imagine this must be a rights thing but I have no idea where the rights have be screwed up. BTW, pop3 access works perfectly. -- Tom Pantazi | o "Out the ethernet, Jax Internet | o o over the bridge, tom@jis.com |_o_ o through the router, 904-296-1201 \o/ o nothing but net!" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 15:31:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23369; Mon, 12 Feb 96 15:31:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25388; Mon, 12 Feb 96 15:17:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25382; Mon, 12 Feb 96 15:17:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tm7Pz-00038TC; Mon, 12 Feb 96 15:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: umar@kalypso.cybercom.net (Robert Landry) Subject: Can't start pine Date: 12 Feb 1996 11:08:12 -0500 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 252 I just compiled pine under NetBSD 1.1/i386. When I try to start it I get this message: "Can't access terminal or input is not a terminal. Redirection of standard input is not allowed. For example "pine < file" doesn't work." I get this message both when logging on directly at my PC, where TERM=pc3, and via telnet where TERM=vt100. pico will start but behaves quite strangely; in particular the arrow keys don't work right. I must be doing something stupid. Can anyone tell me what it is? Rob Landry umar@cybercom.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 15:34:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23496; Mon, 12 Feb 96 15:34:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00228; Mon, 12 Feb 96 15:17:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00222; Mon, 12 Feb 96 15:17:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tm7Pz-00038UC; Mon, 12 Feb 96 15:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mraaum@uio.no (Margrete Raaum) Subject: Re: NNTP-server Date: 12 Feb 1996 16:22:36 GMT Message-Id: <4fnpgc$j8q@ratatosk.uio.no> References: <4fkvt2$613@nil.aoml.noaa.gov> In-Reply-To: <4fkvt2$613@nil.aoml.noaa.gov> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 253 In article <4fkvt2$613@nil.aoml.noaa.gov>, hendee@wave.aoml.erl.gov (Jim Hendee) writes: >When I try to post a follow up to a Newsgroup, after an answer comes to >me, I get the message, "Can't post. NNTP-server not defined." I am using >this under Unix. Can anyone help me determine where I need to fix what? If the nntp-server that provides you with news is not defined you can define it in your .pinerc-file. Mrg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 17:15:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28628; Mon, 12 Feb 96 17:15:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27985; Mon, 12 Feb 96 16:52:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs.stritch.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27977; Mon, 12 Feb 96 16:52:42 -0800 Received: by acs.stritch.edu; id AA23141; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 18:53:08 -0600 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 18:53:07 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Esten To: "Richard G. Roberto" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Q: How do I subscribe? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 254 ...send a message addressed to: majordomo@cac.washington.edu Leave subject blank. In body of message put: subscribe pine-info Send it away! If you want to get off the list, same address, substitute unsubscribe for subscribe in the body. Few things more annoying than watching people send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to the list at large instead of the list management program. Happy Trails Jim Esten (temporarily between .sigs) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 17:59:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29787; Mon, 12 Feb 96 17:59:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29337; Mon, 12 Feb 96 17:43:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from soleil.acomp.usf.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29331; Mon, 12 Feb 96 17:43:25 -0800 Received: (nbenke@localhost) by soleil.acomp.usf.edu (8.6.11/8.6.5) id UAA22126; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 20:37:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 20:37:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Nicole Benke (UND)" X-Sender: nbenke@soleil To: John Krytus Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: deleting messages in INBOX folder In-Reply-To: <4fn842$prp@spectator.cris.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 255 On 12 Feb 1996, John Krytus wrote: > Is there a way to delete messages marked for deletion in the INBOX folder > without exiting the pine program? > > Thanks! > > John, Once you have marked the messages as deleted, if you press "X" Pine will ask you if you want to expunge messages? Press "Y" and this will delete the marked messages without exiting the program. Nicole From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 19:00:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01820; Mon, 12 Feb 96 19:00:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05580; Mon, 12 Feb 96 18:54:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05570; Mon, 12 Feb 96 18:54:25 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 12 Feb 1996 14:03:31 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id OAA27826; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 14:03:35 GMT Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 14:03:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: John Krytus Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: deleting messages in INBOX folder In-Reply-To: <4fn842$prp@spectator.cris.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 256 Yes... the "X" (eXpunge) command. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 12 Feb 1996, John Krytus wrote: > Is there a way to delete messages marked for deletion in the INBOX folder > without exiting the pine program? > > Thanks! > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 19:01:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01866; Mon, 12 Feb 96 19:01:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05573; Mon, 12 Feb 96 18:54:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05566; Mon, 12 Feb 96 18:54:19 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 12 Feb 1996 12:17:53 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA23310; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 12:17:55 GMT Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 12:17:54 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: lizlocus@econ.duke.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Automatic Reply In-Reply-To: <4e81fd$rp3@news.duke.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 257 No, it is not possible to do this. Pine (and other mail reader programs such as Elm) read mail *after* it has been delivered to you. You will need to persuade the mail delivery system to feed newly arriving messages for you through some sort of program which looks at their content and decide where to file the message. The persuasion is typically done (on UNIX systems) by creating a file called ".forward" in your home directory. See the manual page on sendmail for more information. The filtering program is typically "filter" or "procmail" -- rarely standard utilities on UNIX systems. Ask your local help desk if either are available on your machines. (Whilst you're there, you could ask them to show you how to use them too! :-) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 25 Jan 1996 lizlocus@econ.duke.edu wrote: > > > Is it possible to send (setup) an automatic reply via Pine? > If yes, how? > > > Liz Locus > Duke University > Durham, NC > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 19:04:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01941; Mon, 12 Feb 96 19:04:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05586; Mon, 12 Feb 96 18:54:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05576; Mon, 12 Feb 96 18:54:29 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 12 Feb 1996 12:26:45 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA28869; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 12:27:05 GMT Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 12:27:05 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Brody Schmidt Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help, Using REMOTE news server In-Reply-To: <4ff2bg$3tc_001@snews.zippo.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 258 This is because the current version of Pine (3.91) does not support authentication to News servers. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 9 Feb 1996, Brody Schmidt wrote: > I am having troubles getting pine to operate with a remote news > service which requires authintication. I've tried about every type of > configuration, with no luck. Any suggestions would be welcome > > > Brody Schmidt > sbrody@okstate.edu > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 19:32:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02985; Mon, 12 Feb 96 19:32:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01278; Mon, 12 Feb 96 19:22:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01270; Mon, 12 Feb 96 19:22:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmBJD-00038TC; Mon, 12 Feb 96 19:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Gregory J. Hickel" Subject: Re: how do I create a signature? Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 09:32:54 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 259 On Thu, 8 Feb 1996, meredith ritchie wrote: > I want to know how to create a signature block to put at the end of my > messages. Could someone please help me? > > You need to create a file in your home directory called ".signature". The contents of this text file should be what you would like you signature to look like. To create this file type "pico .signature" at your shell prompt. Hope this is helpful. Greg Hickel gjhickel@server.wulaw.wustl.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 20:35:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04920; Mon, 12 Feb 96 20:35:20 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07053; Mon, 12 Feb 96 20:27:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07047; Mon, 12 Feb 96 20:27:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmCHq-00038RC; Mon, 12 Feb 96 20:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rneu@rneu.loc.gov (R R Neuswanger) Subject: Re: deleting messages in index folder Date: 12 Feb 1996 18:18:14 GMT Message-Id: <4fo096$100r@rs7.loc.gov> References: <4fn7ss$pqt@spectator.cris.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 260 Mark each one with d; then hit x, then y. In <4fn7ss$pqt@spectator.cris.com>, Jkrytus@cris.com (John Krytus) writes: >Is there a way to delete currently marked messages in the index folder >without exiting? > >Thanks! > R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Gun control, the opiate of the rrne@loc.gov intellectuals: racism laced I speak for me. Only. with self-righteousness. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 20:35:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04924; Mon, 12 Feb 96 20:35:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02280; Mon, 12 Feb 96 20:27:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02274; Mon, 12 Feb 96 20:27:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmCHq-00038TC; Mon, 12 Feb 96 20:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Re: Anonymous Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 12:53:29 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 261 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: | Date: Mon, 22 JAN 1996 18:03:10 -0500 | From: Paul O Bartlett | Newgroups: comp.mail.pine | Subject: Re: Anonymous | | On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Shadowfire wrote: | | > Does anybody know how to configure pine so that I can be anonymous | > instead of my e-mail address showing in the from field? | | Use an anonymous remailer. | More specifically, use a mixmaster remailer. See http://obscura.com/~loki/remailer/mixmaster-faq.html for details. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp1.6, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMR84CuBu0383Om6dAQHd6gP/bF4YNMdhWKZBgRgfRhbQcJoK5HeCUlOM oUqcNDqtb1FeAdllA9KGE5p721uLIFUlcAvXtYkf9xyBqxNYlviq2X9AOljLE/l5 5x1cQodSyhhXxI8+c7U93tEwbcbhhsYpGoSz0KCsBVguWI93H4GE9bQpkfVnoVnf gSVjPW79Q0E= =guSj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka 49860926614586AF "The strongest reason for the people to retain their 54105BA338FBF0FB right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 20:48:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05333; Mon, 12 Feb 96 20:48:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02503; Mon, 12 Feb 96 20:42:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [202.54.1.177] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02493; Mon, 12 Feb 96 20:41:53 -0800 Received: by giasmd01.vsnl.net.in; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/19Sep95-0236PM) id AA13151; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 10:11:51 GMT Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 10:11:51 +0000 (WET) From: "S.Sekhar" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine info in Digest Form Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 262 I am new to this list and am sorry if this question has been answered already. Can I get pine info messages in the digest form? The information message which came alongwith the subscription confirmation is quite on this point. Thanks in advance regards S.SEKHAR ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- mdsaaa19@giasmd01.vsnl.net.in STATUS KING BBS-THE ONLY FREE BBS IN MADRAS sekhars@arbornet.org +91-44-8522187 sekhar@indiagate.com APPROVED EPIC GAMES DISTRIBUTION CENTRE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For more info on Status King BBS send mail to statusking@indiagate.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 20:49:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05407; Mon, 12 Feb 96 20:49:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02525; Mon, 12 Feb 96 20:44:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [202.54.1.177] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02519; Mon, 12 Feb 96 20:44:11 -0800 Received: by giasmd01.vsnl.net.in; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/19Sep95-0236PM) id AA13153; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 10:14:07 GMT Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 10:14:07 +0000 (WET) From: "S.Sekhar" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: apattser@mozart.inet.co.th Subject: Signatures in Pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 263 apattser@mozart.inet.co.th (Apatt) writes: >Could somebody please tell me how to put signatures at the end of >Pine messages? You can create an ascii file with whatever details you need and upload it into your machine. After that rename that file to .signature. You can ask pine to append your signature automatically by changing the setup to append signature at the bottom. (That is what pine has done for my signature :->) regards S.SEKHAR ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- mdsaaa19@giasmd01.vsnl.net.in STATUS KING BBS-THE ONLY FREE BBS IN MADRAS sekhars@arbornet.org +91-044-8522187 sekhar @indiagate.com APPROVED EPIC GAMES DISTRIBUTION CENTRE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For more info on Status King BBS send mail to statusking@indiagate.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 21:13:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06065; Mon, 12 Feb 96 21:13:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07545; Mon, 12 Feb 96 21:02:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07539; Mon, 12 Feb 96 21:02:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmCrb-00038RC; Mon, 12 Feb 96 21:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mathias@singnet.com.sg (Mathias Koerber) Subject: Re: mailbox format invalidated ??? Date: 12 Feb 1996 13:49:58 GMT Message-Id: <4fngi6$t3j@lantana.singnet.com.sg> References: <4fnft4$t3j@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 264 Mathias Koerber (mathias@singnet.com.sg) wrote: : Recently I often get the message : "maibox format invalidated" : or : "Access error" or similar in pine 3.91 on a DEC Alpha DU3.2c : : This only seems to happen when I telnet in from one particular : remote machine and then run pine. (the box is my home-Linux box)> : : Is there any way I can set up a debugging flag to trace this? What : could trigger this problem? I found the -d switch. Here is part of the debugfile at -d99: === build_header_line (56) called === Returning 1400af170 -> < 56 Feb 12 Gui Tang Guan (5,337) Re: fwd: Re: fwd: Photo Taking Session For Proximi tity Passcard ... (fwd) (154), 39159023> === build_header_line (57) called === Returning 1400af220 -> <+ 57 Feb 11 Kai Henningsen (1,453) Re: 10 Marketing ULs? (154), 37267300> STATUS: diff:-1, displayed: 824132692, now: 824132698 output_message(^GMAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR) STATUS cmd:0, disp:1, length:0, max:6, min3Select readfds:1 timeval:0,0 Select on tty returned 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 113 q Read command returning: 113 q New_mail_count zeroed - process_cmd((113)q) - MAIL_CMD: quit Note the STATUS diff:-1 part. What does this mean. Is my time on the system no good (I recently installed xntpd v3)..? regards : : regards : Mathias : : -- : Mathias Koerber | Tel: +65 / 471 9820 | mathias@singnet.com.sg : SingNet NOC | Fax: +65 / 475 3273 | Mathias_Koerber@pobox.org.sg : Q'town Tel. Exch. | PGP: Keyid: 768/25E082BD : 2 Stirling Rd | 1A 8B FC D4 93 F1 9A FC BD 98 A3 1A 0E 73 01 65 : S'pore 148943 | Disclaimer: I speak only for myself : * Eifersucht ist eine Leidenschaft, die mit Eifer sucht, was Leiden schafft * -- Mathias Koerber | Tel: +65 / 471 9820 | mathias@singnet.com.sg SingNet NOC | Fax: +65 / 475 3273 | Mathias_Koerber@pobox.org.sg Q'town Tel. Exch. | PGP: Keyid: 768/25E082BD 2 Stirling Rd | 1A 8B FC D4 93 F1 9A FC BD 98 A3 1A 0E 73 01 65 S'pore 148943 | Disclaimer: I speak only for myself * Eifersucht ist eine Leidenschaft, die mit Eifer sucht, was Leiden schafft * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 12 23:28:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09719; Mon, 12 Feb 96 23:28:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04978; Mon, 12 Feb 96 23:23:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04972; Mon, 12 Feb 96 23:22:58 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA01439 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 08:22:39 +0100 Received: (from bor@localhost) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA25620; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 10:22:26 +0300 (OET) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 10:22:24 +0300 (OET) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsmx1 Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Pine mailing list Subject: Off-line mode of Pine ? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 265 I am really sorry, because this question was discussed here already, but I missed the answer (if any); I cannot RTFM as I curently have no on-line connection. I have a friend whom I try to persuade to use Pine. It will be used by about 250 - 300 users (if at all). The problem is, most of them are connected through dial-up lines. Currently they use UUPC to send/receive mail, but it could be easily switched to use dial-on-demand TCP/IP over FTP PC/TCP or Novell Lan WorkPlace. They will in any case wait for Pine 3.92 (because 3.91 lacks some crucial features) but to make decision: 1. will it be possible in 3.92 to use off-line mode, that is, preload mail from server using POP/IMAP/??? to local PC? 2. will it be possible to use, er, "batch" sending (much the way Pegasus Mail does), that is, while in Pine session, accumulate sent mails and then send them at once? 3. probably some other features which in effect are equivalent to ones above? Could anybody shed a light on this? much thanks in advance Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 13 00:39:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11405; Tue, 13 Feb 96 00:39:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05805; Tue, 13 Feb 96 00:33:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05799; Tue, 13 Feb 96 00:33:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmG7h-00038RC; Tue, 13 Feb 96 00:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gweisz@ra (Gideon Weisz) Subject: cmsg cancel <4fnh2r$681@thoth.nilenet.com> Control: cancel <4fnh2r$681@thoth.nilenet.com> Date: 13 Feb 1996 06:34:50 GMT Message-Id: <4fpbea$l8s@thoth.nilenet.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 266 Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 13 04:35:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17124; Tue, 13 Feb 96 04:35:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08938; Tue, 13 Feb 96 04:27:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [206.203.63.1] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08931; Tue, 13 Feb 96 04:27:01 -0800 Received: from 3rd1.3rddoor.com ([206.203.63.201]) by 3rddoor.3rddoor.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA26644 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 07:30:34 -0500 Message-Id: <199602131230.HAA26644@3rddoor.3rddoor.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Chuck Libbey" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 07:28:01 -0500 Subject: unsubscribe Reply-To: libbeyc@3rddoor.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 267 unsubscribe libbeyc@3rddoor.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 13 09:34:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27527; Tue, 13 Feb 96 09:34:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19238; Tue, 13 Feb 96 09:09:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19232; Tue, 13 Feb 96 09:09:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmOBf-00038TC; Tue, 13 Feb 96 09:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tattooed@phish.nether.net (The Tattooed One) Subject: Threading news in Pine Date: 12 Feb 1996 23:51:16 GMT Message-Id: <4fojpk$t85@news.cic.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 268 Is there a way to thread articles when using pine as a newsreader? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 13 09:45:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27882; Tue, 13 Feb 96 09:45:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13713; Tue, 13 Feb 96 08:53:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13707; Tue, 13 Feb 96 08:53:44 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22753; Tue, 13 Feb 96 08:53:06 -0800 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 08:53:05 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Andrej Borsenkow Cc: Pine mailing list Subject: Re: Off-line mode of Pine ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 269 Andrej, Alas, offline support didn't make it into the cut for 3.92 (which really is coming Real Soon Now), but "offline" is still planned for later this year. -teg On Tue, 13 Feb 1996, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > I am really sorry, because this question was discussed here already, but > I missed the answer (if any); I cannot RTFM as I curently have no on-line > connection. > > I have a friend whom I try to persuade to use Pine. It will be used by > about 250 - 300 users (if at all). The problem is, most of them are > connected through dial-up lines. Currently they use UUPC to send/receive > mail, but it could be easily switched to use dial-on-demand TCP/IP over > FTP PC/TCP or Novell Lan WorkPlace. > > They will in any case wait for Pine 3.92 (because 3.91 lacks some crucial > features) but to make decision: > > 1. will it be possible in 3.92 to use off-line mode, that is, preload > mail from server using POP/IMAP/??? to local PC? > > 2. will it be possible to use, er, "batch" sending (much the way Pegasus > Mail does), that is, while in Pine session, accumulate sent mails and > then send them at once? > > 3. probably some other features which in effect are equivalent to ones > above? > > Could anybody shed a light on this? > > much thanks in advance > > Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 > SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 > > NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 13 10:11:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29250; Tue, 13 Feb 96 10:11:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20381; Tue, 13 Feb 96 09:59:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20375; Tue, 13 Feb 96 09:59:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmP0G-00038TC; Tue, 13 Feb 96 09:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Scott Wiersdorf Subject: Viewing folders Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 20:03:02 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 270 I'm new to pine. I'm running pine from a dial up connection to a unix machine. Twice when I have pushed 'L' to list the folders has pine actually listed all of my folders. Usually, however, it only lists my INBOX and nothing else. I have to memorize the names of my folders if I want to open them. Anyone know why this is happening? Scott Wiersdorf From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 13 10:22:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00339; Tue, 13 Feb 96 10:22:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15499; Tue, 13 Feb 96 09:59:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15493; Tue, 13 Feb 96 09:59:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmP0F-00038RC; Tue, 13 Feb 96 09:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rankin@smeagol.sat.mot.com () Subject: Sending attachments to CC:Mail users? Date: 12 Feb 1996 13:39:37 -0700 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 271 Does anyone know how to send an attachment from Pine so that it shows up in a CC:Mail user's mailbox as an attachment. Unfortunately, brain-dead CC:Mail doesn't understand standard MIME attachments. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. ============================================================================= | /\ /\ Rick Rankin | | / \ / \ Motorola GSTG Voice: 602-732-3494 | | /___ v ___\ 2501 S. Price Rd. Fax: 602-732-2205 | | // \ / \\ Chandler, AZ 85248 E-mail: rankin@smeagol.sat.mot.com | | // v \\ Mail Drop G1107 | ============================================================================= -- ============================================================================= | /\ /\ Rick Rankin | | / \ / \ Motorola GSTG Voice: 602-732-3494 | | /___ v ___\ 2501 S. Price Rd. Fax: 602-732-2205 | | // \ / \\ Chandler, AZ 85248 E-mail: rankin@smeagol.sat.mot.com | | // v \\ Mail Drop G1107 | ============================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 13 12:37:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06701; Tue, 13 Feb 96 12:37:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18965; Tue, 13 Feb 96 12:09:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18958; Tue, 13 Feb 96 12:09:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmR27-00038RC; Tue, 13 Feb 96 12:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mathias Koerber Subject: Re: mailbox format invalidated ??? Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 18:42:43 +0800 Message-Id: References: <4fnft4$t3j@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 272 On Mon, 12 Feb 1996, Mark Crispin wrote: > "Mailbox format invalidated" occurs when Pine detects that new data has > been appended to the mail file, but that new data does not immediately > start with a "start of message" indicator. > > This problem is almost always caused by one of two things: > 1) you ran more than one copy of Pine simultaneously and system > call locking (flock() or fcntl()) failed to prevent it; this > happens most frequently when accessing the file via NFS. > 2) Pine does not have write-access to /usr/spool/mail (or wherever > the mail file is located) and thus is unable to create .lock > files. This would permit Pine and sendmail to trip on each > other. This happens when the protection of the directory is > something other than 1777. > I thought of these first, but why does it only happen when I'm telnetted (or sshd) into this box from *one* particular machine? Hint: The *one* machine I telnet into from is a LINUX box via pppd. Usually I'm telnetted/sshd in via normal Ethernet and all is fine (both DEC servers). Could this behaviour be due to: - differences in termcap/terminfo? - differences in X-handling? - other diffs between DEC Unix and LINUX? I should try an extended telnet/pine session from an ethernet-connected LINUX box, and maybe one w/o X. I'll let you know. But before that: Is there any other way of tracingthese things (besides recompiling with -g etc)? DEC Unix does not have truss or so :-( regards Mathias > There are other potential causes, but check these first. Any hint of what these other mightbe? Thx Mathias Koerber | Tel: +65 / 471 9820 | mathias@singnet.com.sg SingNet NOC | Fax: +65 / 475 3273 | Mathias_Koerber@pobox.org.sg Q'town Tel. Exch. | PGP: Keyid: 768/25E082BD 2 Stirling Rd | 1A 8B FC D4 93 F1 9A FC BD 98 A3 1A 0E 73 01 65 S'pore 148943 | Disclaimer: I speak only for myself * Eifersucht ist eine Leidenschaft, die mit Eifer sucht, was Leiden schafft * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 13 14:36:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14197; Tue, 13 Feb 96 14:36:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22814; Tue, 13 Feb 96 14:28:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from seminole.iag.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22802; Tue, 13 Feb 96 14:28:34 -0800 Received: by iag.net (Smail3.1.29.1 #9) id m0tmTD7-0000UEC; Tue, 13 Feb 96 17:28 EST Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 17:28:33 -0500 (EST) From: Ketan To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Info on return-receipt Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 273 How do I flag a mail so that it would let me know when the other person has received it and/or read it? The latest FAQ does not have answer to this query. All info appreciated. Ciao, KD From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 13 16:07:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18694; Tue, 13 Feb 96 16:07:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25031; Tue, 13 Feb 96 15:57:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from artimis.cstp.umkc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25025; Tue, 13 Feb 96 15:57:17 -0800 Received: by artimis.cstp.umkc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/14Jun95-1030AM) id AA05252; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 17:57:07 -0600 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 17:57:07 -0600 (CST) From: Anuj Agrawal To: Ketan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Info on return-receipt In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 274 In your Setup/Config, under Customized Headers, put the line: return-receipt-to: Note that this will only give you an indication if it was delivered successfully or not.. however, with some mail programs, it may also generate a response once the other person reads your mail.. Hope that helps. Anuj. On Tue, 13 Feb 1996, Ketan wrote: > How do I flag a mail so that it would let me know when the other person > has received it and/or read it? The latest FAQ does not have answer to > this query. > KD From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 13 16:27:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19535; Tue, 13 Feb 96 16:27:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00860; Tue, 13 Feb 96 16:20:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00854; Tue, 13 Feb 96 16:20:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmUwj-00038TC; Tue, 13 Feb 96 16:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Scott D. Webster" Subject: Windows for workgroups TCP/IP32b & PC-pine Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 20:59:15 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 275 I sent this to 'pine@cac.washington.edu'. I was wondering if anyone else has seen this problem. --------------------------------------------------------------------- >From scottw@frontier.wilpaterson.eduTue Feb 13 15:49:13 1996 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 14:11:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Scott D. Webster" To: pine@cac.washington.edu Subject: PC-pine & Windows for workgroups Pine-meisters, We have un*x pine & imapd & ipopd running here (William Paterson College) - I installed all of that myself. We're also trying to use PC-pine (on wfw machines running MS tcp/ip), but are running into some problems. The strange thing of it is, is that when I connect from my NT 3.51 box, I have no problems at all. I suspect some sort of incompatibility w/ wfw's tcp/ip. (I am able to telnet to the server without problems). Here are the errors I'm getting. At first everything looks fine - I log in to pc-pine and get: "Folder "INBOX" opened with 1 message" If I then hit 'l' I get: "[Can't connect to frontier.wilpaterson.edu,119: Refused (10061)]" If I highlight INBOX and hit enter everything looks fine (shows the headers). If I then hightlight one of the messages and hit enter i get: "[[CLOSED] IMAP connection broken (command)]" followed closely by: "[[CLOSED] No-op dead stream] and then it 'dings' (default windoze sound) repeatedly. when I then hit 'q' to quit it will ding so I hit 'q' repetedly until the "do you really want to quit?" line comes up and then hit 'y' to which it says 'ding' (...we are the Knights who say 'ding'! - oh, sorry, Monty Python flashback) so I repeatedly hit 'y' until it quits. Any ideas on what's gone loopy? -- Scott D. Webster /**************************************/ Senior, Computer Science /* Linus Torvalds is my hero! */ William Paterson College /**************************************/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 13 16:35:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19900; Tue, 13 Feb 96 16:35:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25949; Tue, 13 Feb 96 16:30:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25943; Tue, 13 Feb 96 16:30:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmV2H-00038RC; Tue, 13 Feb 96 16:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert Sombach Subject: API for PINE Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 23:34:23 GMT Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 276 I am working on an application and would like to be able to send and read information from the PINE program and external programs on an MS-DOS platform. Are there any API's available to do this?? Does anyone have any experience doing this with PINE?? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 13 20:34:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27872; Tue, 13 Feb 96 20:34:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06074; Tue, 13 Feb 96 20:30:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06068; Tue, 13 Feb 96 20:30:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmYnO-00038RC; Tue, 13 Feb 96 20:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: br00031@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu Subject: !! What does Pine call the message? !! Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 21:44:19 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 277 In order to try to solve the problem of pine's print to ansii command not working, when connected to Pine on the Suns via modem using Ckermit in linux, I am reconfiguring the print command. This is option three in the printer configuration. I would like print to execute a small script. Something like cp (message) ~/tmp/(message) kermit -C "apc server, remote print (message), finish" rm ~/tmp/(message) This particular one may not work, but that is the general idea. I cannot use (message). What does pine call the message that has been selected for printing? Can anyone see any problem with this plan, or suggest an alternative method? Thank you From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 13 20:34:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27882; Tue, 13 Feb 96 20:34:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00845; Tue, 13 Feb 96 20:30:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00839; Tue, 13 Feb 96 20:30:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmYoT-00038TC; Tue, 13 Feb 96 20:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ctorlins@crl.com (Christoph Torlinsky) Subject: Pine vs. Elm Date: 13 Feb 1996 19:20:08 -0800 Message-Id: <4frkd8$8qu@crl.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 278 ELM versus PINE that is thee question... At the company I work at there is some discussion on which is better and for what reason...I was wondering if anyone had any opinions to share to this? I am currently using pine3.91 on several flavours of unix, must say it is quite nice, simple and gets the jobby-job done. ALthough some think that elm is better at supporting pgp and so on... whats the word on the street? thanks -chris From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 02:11:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07000; Wed, 14 Feb 96 02:11:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11599; Wed, 14 Feb 96 02:06:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11593; Wed, 14 Feb 96 02:06:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tme5v-00038RC; Wed, 14 Feb 96 02:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mathias@singnet.com.sg (Mathias Koerber) Subject: mailbox format invalidated ??? Date: 12 Feb 1996 13:38:44 GMT Message-Id: <4fnft4$t3j@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 279 Recently I often get the message "maibox format invalidated" or "Access error" or similar in pine 3.91 on a DEC Alpha DU3.2c This only seems to happen when I telnet in from one particular remote machine and then run pine. (the box is my home-Linux box)> Is there any way I can set up a debugging flag to trace this? What could trigger this problem? regards Mathias -- Mathias Koerber | Tel: +65 / 471 9820 | mathias@singnet.com.sg SingNet NOC | Fax: +65 / 475 3273 | Mathias_Koerber@pobox.org.sg Q'town Tel. Exch. | PGP: Keyid: 768/25E082BD 2 Stirling Rd | 1A 8B FC D4 93 F1 9A FC BD 98 A3 1A 0E 73 01 65 S'pore 148943 | Disclaimer: I speak only for myself * Eifersucht ist eine Leidenschaft, die mit Eifer sucht, was Leiden schafft * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 02:16:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07136; Wed, 14 Feb 96 02:16:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06230; Wed, 14 Feb 96 02:06:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06224; Wed, 14 Feb 96 02:06:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tme5v-00038TC; Wed, 14 Feb 96 02:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Top/Bottom (was: Re: pico right margin and top/bottom commands) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 20:15:26 -0500 Message-Id: References: <199602120800.DAA23652@access1.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199602120800.DAA23652@access1.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 280 On 12 Feb 1996 nobody@psg.com wrote (excerpt): > Also is there a way to go to the top and/or the bottom of > a file. ^W^Y and ^W^V . Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 04:51:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12666; Wed, 14 Feb 96 04:51:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14285; Wed, 14 Feb 96 04:36:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14279; Wed, 14 Feb 96 04:36:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmgP7-00038TC; Wed, 14 Feb 96 04:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rdadams@access1.digex.net (Dick Adams) Subject: Re: Pico question Date: 13 Feb 1996 10:58:41 -0500 Message-Id: <4fqcfh$1l3@access1.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 281 Phil Edwards wrote: > Dick Adams (rdadams@ubmail.ubalt.edu) sez: >+ I use pico as my editor. I want to set my right margin >+ to 64 characters, but am unable to locate any instructions >+ as to how to do so. > Pico isn't aware of a "right margin". It simply wraps the line > whenever you hit the edge of the terminal. To change the "margin," > simply resize the window in which you're working. (If you're on a > text-terminal, you're out of luck, but if that were the case, you > probably wouldn't want to change the margin anyhow. :-) Pico appears to be aware of a "right margin" when you justify a paragraph using CNTL-J. It's the right margin for justification that I want to adjust. Dick From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 05:33:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13736; Wed, 14 Feb 96 05:33:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15114; Wed, 14 Feb 96 05:27:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15047; Wed, 14 Feb 96 05:22:38 -0800 Received: (from vs@localhost) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.1/8.7.1) id OAA05625; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 14:20:47 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 14:20:45 +0100 (MET) From: Vladimir Solnicky =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=28Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD=29?= Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: !! What does Pine call the message? !! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Acknowledge-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Organizace: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_(=DATIA)_AV_=C8R?= Transport-Options: /delivery /return Read-Receipt-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Receipt-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Return-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Read-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 282 On Tue, 13 Feb 1996 br00031@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu wrote: > Something like > =09cp (message) ~/tmp/(message) > =09kermit -C "apc server, remote print (message), finish" > =09rm ~/tmp/(message) >=20 >=20 > This particular one may not work, but that is the general idea. I=20 > cannot use (message). What does pine call the message that has been=20 > selected for printing?=20 >=20 > Can anyone see any problem with this plan, or suggest an alternative meth= od? Alternative naming -- use ``my-print.$$'' -- $$ will be replaced by the= =20 pid of your script process thus making the name unique. Maybe add ``#!=20 /bin/sh'' or something similar as the first line of the script. But as the suggestion for the Pine development team, it would be nice to have some temporary file name substitution in commands started by pine ...= =20 | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 6884677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz ftp.utia.cas.cz http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-en.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 05:36:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13815; Wed, 14 Feb 96 05:36:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09623; Wed, 14 Feb 96 05:26:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09617; Wed, 14 Feb 96 05:26:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmh9u-00038RC; Wed, 14 Feb 96 05:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rneu@rneu.loc.gov (R R Neuswanger) Subject: Re: Expunging the wastebasket ?? Date: 13 Feb 1996 20:03:51 GMT Message-Id: <4fqqr7$2fnl@rs7.loc.gov> References: <1996Feb9.154909@shrsys.hslc.org> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 283 In <1996Feb9.154909@shrsys.hslc.org>, barr@shrsys.hslc.org (JOHN BARR) writes: >We're running VMS PINE. > >It seems that the wastebasket is not expunged automatically on >exiting Pine, but you must go to the folder first then exit. >Doing this, you will be promted to expunge the wastebasket. > (snip) Wastebasket? Wastebasket?? You mean if I expunge something from a folder and then discover I shouldn't've, there's a way to recover?? That's what my old internal mailer has always had, but I can't find anything of the sort in pine .... :-( R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP) Help keep nature in balance: Library of Congress buy a neo-redneck some ammo! Washington, DC 20540-4120 rrne@loc.gov I speak for me. Only. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 06:32:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15074; Wed, 14 Feb 96 06:32:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10389; Wed, 14 Feb 96 06:14:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from seminole.iag.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10383; Wed, 14 Feb 96 06:14:32 -0800 Received: by iag.net (Smail3.1.29.1 #9) id m0tmhyV-0000TDC; Wed, 14 Feb 96 09:14 EST Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 09:14:27 -0500 (EST) From: Ketan To: Anuj Agrawal Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Info on return-receipt In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 284 HI, Thanks for the info. You Sir, and this mail will be my first guinea pig to see if it works. Thanks a million again. Ketan On Tue, 13 Feb 1996, Anuj Agrawal wrote: > > In your Setup/Config, under Customized Headers, put the line: > return-receipt-to: > > Note that this will only give you an indication if it was delivered > successfully or not.. however, with some mail programs, it may also > generate a response once the other person reads your mail.. > > Hope that helps. > Anuj. > > On Tue, 13 Feb 1996, Ketan wrote: > > How do I flag a mail so that it would let me know when the other person > > has received it and/or read it? The latest FAQ does not have answer to > > this query. > > KD > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 07:14:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16115; Wed, 14 Feb 96 07:14:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16523; Wed, 14 Feb 96 06:51:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16517; Wed, 14 Feb 96 06:51:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmiYG-00038RC; Wed, 14 Feb 96 06:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin B Fleming Subject: PC pine for windows 3.91 - addressbook Date: 14 Feb 1996 03:14:01 GMT Message-Id: <4frk1p$qgf@sydney1.world.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 285 having trouble reading the address book (and signature) from the unix machine. Noted the following in the debug text file: --- ADDR_BOOK_SCREEN --- - mailcap_free - --- addr_book --- (AddrBookScreen) -- init_addrbooks(HalfOpen, 1, 1, 1) -- - adrbk_open(D:\pine\{unixdev}~/.addressbook) - Address book D:\pine\{unixdev}~/.addressbook doesn't exist, creating create failed: No such file or directory Error opening address book {unixdev}~/.addressbook: No such file or directory - end_adrbks - Thanks, Kevin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 08:16:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17883; Wed, 14 Feb 96 08:16:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12287; Wed, 14 Feb 96 08:01:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mach1.wlu.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12281; Wed, 14 Feb 96 08:01:29 -0800 Received: by mach1.wlu.ca (5.65/1.35) id AA12938; Wed, 14 Feb 96 11:00:14 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 11:00:13 -0500 (EST) From: Neal Santin u Subject: blinking text To: pine info list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 286 Does anyone know how to make the text blink in pine? I've seen a few messages now where the text is blinking and I would like to know how to do it. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 10:22:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24076; Wed, 14 Feb 96 10:22:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16227; Wed, 14 Feb 96 10:07:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16219; Wed, 14 Feb 96 10:07:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmlYu-00038RC; Wed, 14 Feb 96 10:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Richard P. O'Sullivan" Subject: Re: API for PINE Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 06:27:35 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 287 On Tue, 13 Feb 1996, Robert Sombach wrote: > I am working on an application and would like to be able to send and read > information from the PINE program and external programs on an MS-DOS > platform. Are there any API's available to do this?? Does anyone have > any experience doing this with PINE?? I can't help you but it would be nice if Pine had a Rexx interface to meet your needs. Rexx is an inter-program message system built on an easy to use interactive language. It's great for gluing applications together and it also very good at text processing. Rexx is available for PC-DOS 7, OS/2, AmigaDOS and other operating systems. Rick __ __ __ __ __ __ ---------------------__/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\__----------------------- Altofirma WebWords /\_\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\_\ Richard P. O'Sullivan http://www.aww.com/ \/_/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/_/ rosully@aww.com --------------------- \/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/ ----------------------- Cookie De Jour -------------- Education today, more than ever before, must see clearly the dual objectives: Education for living and education for making a living. -- James Mason Wood From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 10:28:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24225; Wed, 14 Feb 96 10:28:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22116; Wed, 14 Feb 96 10:17:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22110; Wed, 14 Feb 96 10:17:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmlge-00038RC; Wed, 14 Feb 96 10:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Security issues with PINE Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 21:30:20 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4fo460$e96@crl.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4fo460$e96@crl.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 288 Pine is designed to run without any special privileges. If Pine is not installed with any setuid/setgid privileges, then it's just an ordinary program. If your users have a C compiler they can build a private copy of Pine for themselves. One thing that you need to be careful on is the protection of /usr/spool/mail (or /var/mail if that's what your system uses). This directory should be protected for public write with the "sticky" bit set (chmod protection 1777). This is necessary in order to permit Pine to lock mail files when it is reading or writing; otherwise sendmail and Pine can trip over each other. Some sites protect the directory 775 and give mail programs setgid access to group "mail" instead. Pine is not designed to run securely in this mode. On 12 Feb 1996, Christoph Torlinsky wrote: > I have PINE 3.91 , and I was wondering if there were any security > concerns when making Pine available to users? I have placed it in > usr/local/bin and now all the users on the system are able to use it. > Should I be wary of any holes that exist in PINE? set permissions > on PINE and things like that? > > Ahyhow thanks... > > I run it on the following os/es > > Solaris 2.5 > Dynix/pTX 2.1.1 (Sequent) > and SunOS 4.1.4 > > Other than that I love pine...its very good for email, better than > elm thats for sure. > > chris > > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 10:29:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24316; Wed, 14 Feb 96 10:29:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22274; Wed, 14 Feb 96 10:22:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22268; Wed, 14 Feb 96 10:22:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmllP-00038RC; Wed, 14 Feb 96 10:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Making Pine use full height and width of screen Date: 14 Feb 96 04:56:24 GMT Message-Id: References: <9602110150.AA06014@ea831.fnal.gov> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 289 Peter Andrews writes: >Thanks - 'stty rows nn' made pine work use my full screen. My only >remaining question is how to set this up automatically! I read your other message, apologizing for not offering to post a summary. The answer is "it depends". What OS? What shell? The easiest way to find out how many lines is with resize. The trick is getting the LINES and COLUMNS set in stty. On SunOS 4.x, 'eval `resize`' would set the values in stty. Since I have switched to Solaris 2.3 or so, I have found that it is much trickier. There are all the standard problems of setting an environment variable in the current shell, that is what eval is for. You will have to read the manpages for stty, eval, and resize, and experiment. >On Sat, 10 Feb 1996, Art Kreymer wrote: >> On systems where >> stty rows nn >> works, that will set up the correct PINE screen behaviour. >> You can double check the setting with >> stty -a >> or >> tput lines. >> >> On IRIX 5.3, I still don't know how to set this up. >> SETENV LINES nn has no effect. >> >> If I first log in to OSF1, then telnet to IRIX 5.3, the correct setting >> is somehow passed through, as shown by >> tput lines >> >> posted and cc'ed -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Web admin: chimera,nn,tin,jove,kermit - free's best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 10:34:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24594; Wed, 14 Feb 96 10:34:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16477; Wed, 14 Feb 96 10:17:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16471; Wed, 14 Feb 96 10:17:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmlgf-00038TC; Wed, 14 Feb 96 10:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: mailbox format invalidated ??? Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 21:36:17 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4fnft4$t3j@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4fnft4$t3j@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 290 "Mailbox format invalidated" occurs when Pine detects that new data has been appended to the mail file, but that new data does not immediately start with a "start of message" indicator. This problem is almost always caused by one of two things: 1) you ran more than one copy of Pine simultaneously and system call locking (flock() or fcntl()) failed to prevent it; this happens most frequently when accessing the file via NFS. 2) Pine does not have write-access to /usr/spool/mail (or wherever the mail file is located) and thus is unable to create .lock files. This would permit Pine and sendmail to trip on each other. This happens when the protection of the directory is something other than 1777. There are other potential causes, but check these first. On 12 Feb 1996, Mathias Koerber wrote: > Recently I often get the message > "maibox format invalidated" > or > "Access error" or similar in pine 3.91 on a DEC Alpha DU3.2c > > This only seems to happen when I telnet in from one particular > remote machine and then run pine. (the box is my home-Linux box)> > > Is there any way I can set up a debugging flag to trace this? What > could trigger this problem? > > regards > Mathias > > -- > Mathias Koerber | Tel: +65 / 471 9820 | mathias@singnet.com.sg > SingNet NOC | Fax: +65 / 475 3273 | Mathias_Koerber@pobox.org.sg > Q'town Tel. Exch. | PGP: Keyid: 768/25E082BD > 2 Stirling Rd | 1A 8B FC D4 93 F1 9A FC BD 98 A3 1A 0E 73 01 65 > S'pore 148943 | Disclaimer: I speak only for myself > * Eifersucht ist eine Leidenschaft, die mit Eifer sucht, was Leiden schafft * > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 10:46:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25254; Wed, 14 Feb 96 10:46:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16935; Wed, 14 Feb 96 10:32:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16929; Wed, 14 Feb 96 10:32:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmlvq-00038RC; Wed, 14 Feb 96 10:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pier Subject: read folders from current directory? Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 02:22:48 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 291 I had a user ask me if he could read/write to the folders in the directory where he started pine, like elm does (never tired it?). He apparently has many folders orgainized the way elm makes you do things. We're running Solaris 2.3, if that helps. please respond to my email address if you can (as well as post), thanks, pier@math.uh.edu ******************************************************************************** "The maddest of all is seeing things as they are, rather than as they should be" --Don Quixote ******************************************************************************** Todd Holloway University of Houston Sr. Systems Administrator Department of Mathematics pier@math.uh.edu 4800 Calhoun Rd. (713) 743-3466 Houston, TX 77204-3476 Beeper: (713) 563-1031
pier@math.uh.edu
******************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 13:01:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02822; Wed, 14 Feb 96 13:01:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26498; Wed, 14 Feb 96 12:47:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26492; Wed, 14 Feb 96 12:47:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmo2j-00038UC; Wed, 14 Feb 96 12:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gostin@poss.math.psu.edu (Jeff Gostin) Subject: Other directories for incoming folders? Date: 14 Feb 1996 17:08:05 GMT Message-Id: <4ft4tl$n5o@dodgson.math.psu.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 292 Hi! I was hoping someone could tell me how I could specify where incoming mail folders go, other than $HOME. I'm going to be using procmail to sort my mail, and would love the incoming stuff to go elsewhere, in hopes of trying to keep $HOME somewhat clean. :) Also, mail that doesn't go into other incoming folders will stay in my mail queue. Thanks, in advance! :) Relevant info: Pine 3.91 Solaris 2.4 TCSH 6.00.02 --Jeff -- ======== ======== "Information Superhighway" does for Internet == == what C.H.I.P.'s did for Cops. == == -= Destroy Ignorance -- Seek Higher Understanding ===== ======== Ask me for my PGP key. Privacy is your friend. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 13:02:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02872; Wed, 14 Feb 96 13:02:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20782; Wed, 14 Feb 96 12:47:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20776; Wed, 14 Feb 96 12:47:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmo2V-00038RC; Wed, 14 Feb 96 12:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: *****Warning: Forger amongst us****** Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 19:30:37 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <277cc$b3425.a4@rome.netwide.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 293 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- [I have posted this only to comp.mail.pine, where I saw it; and news.admin.net-abuse.misc, where it belongs. I have directed follow-ups to the latter only] I think you (w_slone) may have over reacted. (A very abbreviated summation of the original message is below for those who may have missed it) For all we know, the person who asked merely wanted to send anonymous postings (for which the correct response would have been to point him to information about anonymous remailers). Before going over someone's head it is best to try to contact them directly. You don't know what purpose he has for his questions. Warn him that forging is not something taken likely, but spreading your accusation all over the net is probably inappropriate. On Wed, 7 Feb 1996, w_sloan wrote: > Date: Wed, 07 FEB 1996 16:52:36 GMT > From: w_sloan > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: *****Warning: Forger amongst us****** > > PSA: A reader/poster amongst our newsgroups, [...] > is attempting to *FORGE* postings. This > > COMPLAIN to: [sysadmin and postmaster among others] > *****************Evidence from usenet archives follows**************** > > > Subject: WANTED: completely configurable reader > > > > I need a Usenet reader that will allow me to alter _all_ header info. [And lots more like it] As I have been trying to say, cross-posting a call to smear across many groups is an over reaction, and under certain circumstances may be as or more destructive than an individual forgery. It's better to keep cool about these things, so that we can deal with the genuinely destructive cases as they happen. - -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv Comment: Processed by mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAgUBMSI4UBu6nIqxqP+5AQHlpQQAypcM7c1VvXF2Eh6AXf9eQObNmxrlWGck 6ut+5GEq/8gtQCnKtLB6ot9EVdySt4n60S6rgLENSzFq0vSn95o4eSl77N1Kd9eV 7wsPL0ZqiEwxCC+WOKvJPOn/Be1OPxNiBE6D5Vlv07p4wyufwbze6r3MePowvlKj 8HON1BY++0k= =rKSa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 14:05:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06104; Wed, 14 Feb 96 14:05:03 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28690; Wed, 14 Feb 96 13:57:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28684; Wed, 14 Feb 96 13:57:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmp93-00038RC; Wed, 14 Feb 96 13:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: donald@sq.com (Donald Teed) Subject: pine 3.91 on Sun OS4 locks up periodically for 2 minutes at a time Message-Id: <1996Feb14.182458.18328@sq.com> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 18:24:58 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 294 Regarding Pine version 3.91: I have a problem with pine that we have not been able to explain due to network traffic, machine loads or size of mail file. During the day I periodically get a lock up or freeze of pine which I can not associate with any command usage or event. The next few command keys I type are kept in the input buffer and processed after 2 minutes have elapsed. The problem happens regardless of how many users or load factors are on the systems involved. Examples of times when the freeze occurs: returning to the index from within a message, moving down or up one message while in the index, typing return to see a message, and moving up or down one message while viewing a message. My mailbox is typically about 4 MB in size, with around 1000 or more messages kept. Does anyone have any knowledge of this problem or suggestions on what to check? --Donald Teed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 16:30:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13438; Wed, 14 Feb 96 16:30:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02950; Wed, 14 Feb 96 16:21:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02944; Wed, 14 Feb 96 16:21:40 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 14 Feb 1996 22:13:45 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id QAA06695; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 16:09:03 GMT Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 16:09:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: The Tattooed One Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Threading news in Pine In-Reply-To: <4fojpk$t85@news.cic.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 295 Yes... use the Sort command ($) when viewing the newsgroup's index. This will then offer you a number of ways of ordering the messages. "O" (Ordered Subject) is best: primary sort key is subject, secondary key is date. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 12 Feb 1996, The Tattooed One wrote: > Is there a way to thread articles when using pine as a newsreader? > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 17:43:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16660; Wed, 14 Feb 96 17:43:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28799; Wed, 14 Feb 96 17:38:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28783; Wed, 14 Feb 96 17:38:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmsZi-00038RC; Wed, 14 Feb 96 17:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Pine mail filters Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 19:23:51 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4fsu2p$d4@ulowell.uml.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4fsu2p$d4@ulowell.uml.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 296 On 14 Feb 1996, Jason R Theriault wrote: > I am a student at the University of Massachusetts at Lowell. Here we > use pine for e-mail. Can anyone tell me exactly step by step how to set > up a filter system so that my incoming mail will goto the folder of the > sender before I read it. Pine by itself will not do this. You have to use some sort of program which will process the mail _before_ Pine gets hold of it. On Unix type systems, procmail and filter are two of the more common pre-processors. If you are on a Unix type system and have a WWW browser, browse my home page and follow the link to Nancy McGouch's pages for information on mail filtering. (You will have to follow several links to get there.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 17:46:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16859; Wed, 14 Feb 96 17:46:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04845; Wed, 14 Feb 96 17:43:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04839; Wed, 14 Feb 96 17:43:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmshf-00038RC; Wed, 14 Feb 96 17:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Blinking text Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 19:26:17 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 297 On Wed, 14 Feb 1996, Neal Santin u wrote: > Anyone know how to make the message text blink? I've seen a few messages > in which the text blinks and I would like to know how to do it. This is actually not a very good idea. It depends on the hardware setup of the message recipient's terminal. On some terminals the message will blink (or appear in color, or whatever), but on other terminals it will just make a mess. There are no standards, and it's really not very polite to those whose terminals cannot handle it. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 17:54:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17153; Wed, 14 Feb 96 17:54:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29095; Wed, 14 Feb 96 17:49:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from warp.ecn.net.au by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29065; Wed, 14 Feb 96 17:49:00 -0800 Received: (from kevinf@localhost) by warp.ecn.net.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA03596; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 11:41:29 +1000 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 11:41:29 +1000 (EST) From: Kevin B Fleming To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PC pine 3.91 windows - unable to read .addr and .sig from unix host Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 298 I am unable to get pine to read the .addressbook and .signature from the unix host. The following message is contained in the debug file: --- ADDR_BOOK_SCREEN --- - mailcap_free - --- addr_book --- (AddrBookScreen) -- init_addrbooks(HalfOpen, 1, 1, 1) -- - adrbk_open(D:\pine\{unixdev}/usr/home/kevin/.addressbook) - Address book D:\pine\{unixdev}/usr/home/kevin/.addressbook doesn't exist, creati create failed: No such file or directory Error opening address book {unixdev}/usr/home/kevin/.addressbook: No such file o - end_adrbks - - mailcap_free - Any help on this matter would be appreciated Thanks, Kevin ____________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 18:38:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18536; Wed, 14 Feb 96 18:38:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29885; Wed, 14 Feb 96 18:33:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29879; Wed, 14 Feb 96 18:33:36 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24714; Wed, 14 Feb 96 18:33:33 -0800 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 18:33:32 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Donald Teed Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine 3.91 on Sun OS4 locks up periodically for 2 minutes at a time In-Reply-To: <1996Feb14.182458.18328@sq.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 299 Something to try: make sure you set enable-mail-check-cue then observe whether the freezes correspond to two asterisks showing up in the upper-left-corner of the window. The asterisks indicate that pine is checkpointing any state changes made to the mailbox; i.e., re-writing it. That wouldn't explain why it takes so long, but might help identify where to look further... -teg On Wed, 14 Feb 1996, Donald Teed wrote: > Regarding Pine version 3.91: > > I have a problem with pine that we have not been able to > explain due to network traffic, machine loads or size > of mail file. During the day I periodically get a lock up > or freeze of pine which I can not associate with any command > usage or event. The next few command keys I type are kept in the > input buffer and processed after 2 minutes have elapsed. > The problem happens regardless of how many users or load factors are > on the systems involved. Examples of times when the freeze occurs: > returning to the index from within a message, moving down or > up one message while in the index, typing return to see a message, > and moving up or down one message while viewing a message. > > My mailbox is typically about 4 MB in size, with around 1000 or > more messages kept. > > Does anyone have any knowledge of this problem or suggestions > on what to check? > > --Donald Teed > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 19:58:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20537; Wed, 14 Feb 96 19:58:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01195; Wed, 14 Feb 96 19:53:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01189; Wed, 14 Feb 96 19:53:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmuhu-00038RC; Wed, 14 Feb 96 19:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: l33812@alfa.ist.utl.pt (Seal do Mar) Subject: Can I change the adressbook field in "To:"? Date: 13 Feb 1996 13:33:09 GMT Message-Id: <4fq3ul$g53@ci.ist.utl.pt> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 300 When I write the nickname after the "To:" pine replaces it by the fullname and adress fields on the adressbook. Could I change it to nickname plus adress? Or any other field I wanted? thanx ... -- "Mystery is the key to enchantment" Armando Frazao ,d@@b, \. a.k.a. Seal ._.__._._@@@@@@__...__.._..___._. _) `----._ ._..__._._.__.___._._ -_-__-_- _.' e`.__ -_-__- _ ,-'..---~~~)/---'~~~ _- _ - '.,',',- ' l33812@alfa.ist.utl.pt - -_ -_ - http://alfa.ist.utl.pt/~l33812 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 20:31:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21334; Wed, 14 Feb 96 20:31:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07613; Wed, 14 Feb 96 20:28:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07606; Wed, 14 Feb 96 20:28:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmvG5-00038RC; Wed, 14 Feb 96 20:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ak065@ccn.cs.dal.ca (Ross MacKinnon) Subject: Pine mail program binary for SCO? Date: 14 Feb 1996 02:28:34 GMT Message-Id: <4frhci$m3k@ra.isisnet.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 301 Does anyone know if there's a compiled binary for 'Pine' available for SCO Unix 3.2v4.2? Please email replies. TIA, Ross From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 20:51:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21931; Wed, 14 Feb 96 20:51:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02075; Wed, 14 Feb 96 20:43:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02069; Wed, 14 Feb 96 20:43:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmvVl-00038RC; Wed, 14 Feb 96 20:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Status header Date: 7 Feb 1996 18:50:55 GMT Message-Id: <4fasaf$3nh@fu-berlin.de> References: <1996Jan31.141732.5870@jarvis.cs.toronto.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 302 charlesc@eecg.toronto.edu (Charles Chan) writes: >Does anyone know how the Status header work? ELM looks for a Status line in headers and if it exists it looks at the values. Whenever it leaves a folder it will update the folder by writing to it. >How do the Pine/Elm write back the status to my mailbox so that the next time >I open my mailbox, it remains there? Just leave the mailbox without updating it, ie don't use "$" to update, do not change the folder and leave ELM with "X". NOTE: I made these statements from experience. The code might do a lot more stuff which I probably don't want to know. Sven Cc: charlesc@eecg.toronto.edu (Charles Chan) -- [960123] ELM - the "Easy Learn Mail" program. Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm For more info see the "ELM Pages": http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ Latest ELM release: ELM2.4PL25 [951204] NEW! Latest ELM alpha: ELM2.5a08 [950908] Alpha9 expected soon (Feb?) Latest ELMPGP patch: ELMPGP3 [950531] Considered dead. Latest ELMME+ patch: ELM2.4PL24ME8b [951012] ELMME continued as ELMME+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 21:11:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22307; Wed, 14 Feb 96 21:11:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08331; Wed, 14 Feb 96 21:08:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08325; Wed, 14 Feb 96 21:08:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmvtc-00038TC; Wed, 14 Feb 96 21:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Text Attributes!? Date: 15 Feb 1996 03:35:25 GMT Message-Id: <4fu9lt$jn5@fu-berlin.de> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 303 "Richard P. O'Sullivan" writes: >I just notice in the another posting, that the signature text was bold! >I found that the file contained a ^A (ASCII 01) before the signature block. >A little further testing revealed that the following text attributes appear to >work in Pine: > ^A = bold text / ^B = plain text / ^C = underscored text > Is this a documented feature or just an artifact? However documented - don't use it! It's bad enough with 8bit chars already. PC folks keep drawing boxes around their signatures with 8bit characters. And please note that we already have a shortage on asterisks on Usenet. Read alt.fan.warlord - but please don't post until you have read the FAQ: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/afw/ Sven -- Sven Guckes guckes@math.fu-berlin.de Newsgroup alt.fan.warlord on WWW: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/afw/ AFW Home Page http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/afw/best.of/ Best of AFW ! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 22:31:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24079; Wed, 14 Feb 96 22:31:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03590; Wed, 14 Feb 96 22:29:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03584; Wed, 14 Feb 96 22:28:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmx7y-00038TC; Wed, 14 Feb 96 22:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Don Miller Subject: Re: follow-up (not reply) from pine? Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 20:05:14 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 304 Hi - I believe you've guessed the right answer - Reply (in a newsgroup) in PINE works like 'followup' in many newsreaders, e.g. TIN - the message you are asking about wrongly assumed that the 'followup' terminology is universal. Also, at least in my version (PINE 3.91, Solaris), Reply -ing, then selecting 'Post to news group = Y, Reply to all recipients (if asked) = N' has the effect of only posting; you probably don't need to manually delete any other addresses. For background: 'followup' in many newsreaders means: post under current subject, with Re: added, whereas (in those programs) 'reply' means 'reply not to newsgroup but to author via e-mail' - similarly, for them, 'post' means 'post as new subject'; in PINE, that is simply Compose/send (Ctrl-X). I hope this helps. Don Miller ------------------------ On Tue, 6 Feb 1996, R R Neuswanger wrote: > The standard directions for misc.test.moderated says to test your > connection by using the follow-up function, not the reply function, on > the message containing the directions (the welcome message). _Is_ there > any such distinct function in pine? If I use the reply command, say yes > to posting, then delete the (apparent) addressee other than the > newsgroup, will that do it?? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 14 23:55:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25774; Wed, 14 Feb 96 23:55:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04551; Wed, 14 Feb 96 23:51:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ccn.cs.dal.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04545; Wed, 14 Feb 96 23:51:39 -0800 Received: by ccn.cs.dal.ca id <11657(1)>; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 03:54:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 03:54:10 -0400 From: "Marsha C. Holmes" To: Sven Guckes Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Text Attributes!? In-Reply-To: <4fu9lt$jn5@fu-berlin.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 305 Hi I don't think Sven's comments on this attribute are valid. It's an *excellent* idea (sorry to take up 8bit chars with the "*" emphasises, Sven). Marsha *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Marsha C. Holmes |\ __ /.| (`\ ac573@ccn.cs.dal.ca _ .| o o |_ ) ) ----------------------(((---(((------------- Homepage: http://www.ccn.cs.dal.ca/~ac573/Profile.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Member of HTML Writers Guild - http://www.synet.net/hwg *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* On Wed, 14 Feb 1996, Sven Guckes wrote: > Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 23:35:25 -0400 > From: Sven Guckes > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Text Attributes!? > > "Richard P. O'Sullivan" writes: > >I just notice in the another posting, that the signature text was bold! > >I found that the file contained a ^A (ASCII 01) before the signature block. > >A little further testing revealed that the following text attributes appear to > >work in Pine: > > ^A = bold text / ^B = plain text / ^C = underscored text > > Is this a documented feature or just an artifact? > > However documented - don't use it! It's bad enough with 8bit chars already. > PC folks keep drawing boxes around their signatures with 8bit characters. > And please note that we already have a shortage on asterisks on Usenet. > Read alt.fan.warlord - but please don't post until you have read the FAQ: > http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/afw/ > > Sven > > -- > Sven Guckes guckes@math.fu-berlin.de Newsgroup alt.fan.warlord on WWW: > http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/afw/ AFW Home Page > http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/afw/best.of/ Best of AFW ! > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 01:33:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28212; Thu, 15 Feb 96 01:33:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11617; Thu, 15 Feb 96 01:29:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11611; Thu, 15 Feb 96 01:29:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tmzwX-00038RC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 01:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barr@shrsys.hslc.org (JOHN BARR) Subject: Re: deleting messages in INBOX folder Date: 13 FEB 96 14:00:31 GMT Message-Id: <13FEB96.14003186@shrsys.hslc.org> References: <4fn842$prp@spectator.cris.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 306 In a previous article, nbenke@soleil.acomp.usf.edu ("Nicole Benke (UND)") wrote: -> -> ->On 12 Feb 1996, John Krytus wrote: -> ->> Is there a way to delete messages marked for deletion in the INBOX folder ->> without exiting the pine program? ->> ->> Thanks! ->> ->> ->John, -> Once you have marked the messages as deleted, if you press "X" ->Pine will ask you if you want to expunge messages? Press "Y" and this ->will delete the marked messages without exiting the program. -> ->Nicole When I do this I find that the messages go from INOBX to WASTEBASKET. If I do not remember to Xpunge the wastebasket, they build up there. Is there a way to expunge the wastebasket automatically? John Barr From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 02:59:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29526; Thu, 15 Feb 96 02:59:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06759; Thu, 15 Feb 96 02:54:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06753; Thu, 15 Feb 96 02:54:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tn1Fl-00038RC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 02:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bill@bugger.loop.com (Bill Mandel) Subject: Re: Adjusting "From:" In Pine 3.91 Date: 07 Feb 1996 15:20:03 GMT Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: Edward H Fenster's message of Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:20:03 +0500 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 307 I have the same problem (I want my home generated mail messages to have a return address the same as my ISP mail account not my home account) and have partially solved it: I changed the entries: "personal-name" and "user-domain" in my .pinerc file the ISP provided names. Now my mail messages show up like From: bmandel I want it to be: From: bmandel I guess I can just change my home user account to bmandel, but I would rather configure pine correctly. Does anyone know of another pine variable like "personal-name" that sets the user name to something else? Thanks, Bill Mandel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 03:14:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29929; Thu, 15 Feb 96 03:14:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12700; Thu, 15 Feb 96 02:59:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12694; Thu, 15 Feb 96 02:59:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tn1KQ-00038RC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 02:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Carlos PINTO-PEREIRA Subject: Re: Attachments Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 07:01:27 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 308 Richard Fisher wrote: >I want to get an attached message from pine to my hard drive how do I do >this?Please email me if you have an answer!!! Thank You Hi Richard, i'm affraid you must do that in two parts: I- To attach a file to Pine 1- first you must move your file(*) from your hard disk to the server 2- in pine, do the ATTACH II- To save a file in your hard disk 1- from Pine EXPORT to the server 2- move it(*) to your hard disk (*) move from|to a PC/Mac to|from the server with : FTP, TELNET, etc ________________________________________________________________________ Carlos Pinto-Pereira _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ CERN LHC/IAS _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ 1211 Geneve 23 - CH _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ Tel: (022) 767 43 25 _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/_ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ \ _/_/ _/ _/ \ _/ _/ e_mail - Pinto-Pereira@Cern.Ch Url - http://nicewww.cern.ch/~pintopc/welcome.htm "La culture c'est ce qui reste quand on a tout oublie" ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 03:44:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00706; Thu, 15 Feb 96 03:44:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07308; Thu, 15 Feb 96 03:39:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07302; Thu, 15 Feb 96 03:39:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tn1xT-00038UC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 03:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "James M. Cobb" Subject: Re: pico right margin and top/bottom commands Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 00:34:24 -0500 Message-Id: References: <199602120800.DAA23652@access1.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199602120800.DAA23652@access1.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 309 Dick, You ask: Also is there a way to go to the top and/or the bottom of a file. Ctrl-W, Ctrl-Y should take you to the top of the document. Ctrl-W, Ctrl-V should take you to the bottom of the document. If, for example, Ctrl-V doesn't do anything --substitute Esc, Esc, V like this: Ctrl-W, Esc, Esc, V which should take you to the bottom of the document. Cordially, Jim HINT. Always press the space bar once before pressing Enter at the end of text-lines. It makes editing lots easier. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 03:50:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00902; Thu, 15 Feb 96 03:50:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13200; Thu, 15 Feb 96 03:39:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13194; Thu, 15 Feb 96 03:39:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tn1xU-00038VC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 03:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "James M. Cobb" Subject: Re: deleting messages in index folder Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 00:58:35 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4fn7ss$pqt@spectator.cris.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4fn7ss$pqt@spectator.cris.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 310 Friend, You ask: Is there a way to delete currently marked messages in the index folder without exiting? With the up-arrow or down-arrow key, position the cursor at the line identifying the message you wish to delete; or, Type the line number of the line identifying the message you wish to delete, then press Enter; and the cursor should jump to that line. Having positioned the cursor, press the D(elete) key. A "D" should then appear at the line identifying the message you wish to delete. Having thus deleted one or more lines, you can then expunge the deleted lines by pressing the X(punge) key. You will be asked whether you really wish to expunge, or put out of sight, the deleted messages. If you really do, press Y(es). Test the above instructions on messages you're going to get rid of anyway to see if they work, or work correctly, on your system. To activate one or more of them you may have to make appropriate entries in the Pine configuration screens. To delete or expunge a bunch of messages all at one time, please read the Pine documentation about aggregating messages. Cordially, Jim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 03:51:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00936; Thu, 15 Feb 96 03:51:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07300; Thu, 15 Feb 96 03:39:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07294; Thu, 15 Feb 96 03:39:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tn1xS-00038RC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 03:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lorne Hansen <34lmh@but.auc.dk> Subject: MAIL IN MAILBOX Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 10:09:37 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 311 Hi all I was wondering, is it possible to get pine to store mail from a given adress in a chosen mailbox f.eks personal.mail. Thanx in advance _ _ | | ___ _ __ _ __ ___ | |__ __ _ _ __ ___ ___ _ __ | |/ _ \| '__| '_ \ / _ \ | '_ \ / _` | '_ \/ __|/ _ \ '_ \ | | (_) | | | | | | __/ | | | | (_| | | | \__ \ __/ | | | |_|\___/|_| |_| |_|\___| |_| |_|\__,_|_| |_|___/\___|_| |_| E-mail: 34lmh@but.auc.dk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 03:52:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00969; Thu, 15 Feb 96 03:52:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07322; Thu, 15 Feb 96 03:39:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07316; Thu, 15 Feb 96 03:39:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tn1xV-00038WC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 03:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: KOOIJMAN@TUDOBM.TUDelft.NL (Adrie Kooijman) Subject: pine/vms cannot open mailbox !! Date: 15 Feb 1996 10:27:22 GMT Message-Id: <4fv1qa$g38@mo6.rc.tudelft.nl> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 312 Hi All, Recently I compiled PINE 391 on VMS. Using a privileged account (readall privilege) it works fine, A non privileged user can see the overview of mailfolders, but cannot open the mailfolders. The fileprotections seem to be allright, so what else can be wrong ? | Adrie Kooijman, Delft University of Technology, | | The Faculty of Industrial Design Engineering, | | A.Kooijman@IO.TUDelft.NL http://www.io.tudelft.nl/ | + + | Data: "This is a thing. And things can be replaced. Lives cannot." | + + | Disclaimer: | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 03:57:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01061; Thu, 15 Feb 96 03:57:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13192; Thu, 15 Feb 96 03:39:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13186; Thu, 15 Feb 96 03:39:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tn1xT-00038TC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 03:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jan Arne Fagertun Subject: Re: Threading news in Pine Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 10:35:45 +0100 Message-Id: <3122FE71.41C6@varme.sintef.no> References: <4fojpk$t85@news.cic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 313 Mike Brudenell wrote: > On 12 Feb 1996, The Tattooed One wrote: > > > Is there a way to thread articles when using pine as a newsreader? > > Yes... use the Sort command ($) when viewing the newsgroup's index. This > will then offer you a number of ways of ordering the messages. "O" > (Ordered Subject) is best: primary sort key is subject, secondary key is > date. That's not threading! -- | Jan Arne Fagertun | | Research Engineer, SINTEF Applied Thermodynamics and Fluid Dynamics | | Phone : +47 73 59 68 90 Fax : +47 73 59 35 80 | +------------ 950102 (jaf): Linuxers do it with pleasure -------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 03:58:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01095; Thu, 15 Feb 96 03:58:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13294; Thu, 15 Feb 96 03:49:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13288; Thu, 15 Feb 96 03:49:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tn2As-00038WC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 03:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Pine Review Date: 15 Feb 1996 03:52:55 GMT Message-Id: <4fuamn$k49@fu-berlin.de> References: <199601300054.QAA29752@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 314 jgraham@ucla.edu (Julie Graham) writes: >I am interested in finding written reviews about Pine, how it works, and how >it is generally accepted by its users. Take a look at my comparison between Elm and Pine: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mail/elm.vs.pine.html Feedback and help is very welcome! Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 06:19:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06167; Thu, 15 Feb 96 06:19:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15479; Thu, 15 Feb 96 06:09:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15473; Thu, 15 Feb 96 06:09:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tn4Il-00038TC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 06:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lamontg@u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist) Subject: SUGGESTION: ($)Sort on "To:" Date: 15 Feb 1996 11:41:45 GMT Message-Id: <4fv65p$g0t@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 315 I'm using pine 3.91. In the Folder Index screen the $ SortIndex command does not have an option to sort on "To:". While at a casual glance this might seem silly for those of us on mailing lists it would be really nice (e.g. i finally got around to setting up procmail to save posts to this list to a folder, now i want to pick all the e-mail out of my inbox that i've saved and dump it all in this folder). And it would be nice if the "To:" queried if you'd like to search just "To:" lines or for all recipients (i.e. functionality of procmail "^TO" alias). Is there a better place to send suggestions like this? While we're at it, how about having multiple .signatures based on the recipient(s) (or other criteria)? That way I can have one .sig for the alt-sex-bestiality-barney-L mailing list and another one for e-mail to the chair of the physics dept here at UW... -- Lamont Granquist E-mail: lamontg@u.washington.edu ICBM: 47 39'23"N 122 18'19"W There comes a point, I'm afraid, where you begin to suspect that if there's any _real_ truth, it's that the entire multidimentional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs -- Douglas Adams From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 06:19:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06171; Thu, 15 Feb 96 06:19:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09542; Thu, 15 Feb 96 06:09:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09536; Thu, 15 Feb 96 06:09:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tn4Ik-00038RC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 06:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@guava.epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Can I change the adressbook field in "To:"? Date: 13 Feb 1996 13:50:44 GMT Message-Id: <4fq4vk$lk6@guava.epix.net> References: <4fq3ul$g53@ci.ist.utl.pt> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 316 Seal do Mar (l33812@alfa.ist.utl.pt) wrote: : When I write the nickname after the "To:" pine replaces it by the : fullname and adress fields on the adressbook. Could I change it to nickname : plus adress? Or any other field I wanted? : thanx ... Yes, put the cursor at the beginnin of the To: field and edit it. For example change 133812@alfa.ist.utl.pt Change to Seal 133812@alfa.ist.utl.pt Make sure you put in the space so it doesn't read 'Seal' as part of the address. Hope this helps. BYE. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 07:01:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07087; Thu, 15 Feb 96 07:01:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10106; Thu, 15 Feb 96 06:49:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10100; Thu, 15 Feb 96 06:49:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tn4ye-00038TC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 06:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Jagdis Subject: Re: bugs-address config ignored? Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 09:22:24 GMT Message-Id: References: <4f88hm$gah@ornette.uchicago.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 317 Chris Koenigsberg said >It seems that although the documentation (doc/tech-notes) indicates >that "bugs-address" is read from the system-wide config file, actually >this never takes place anywhere in the Pine source code? > >So bug reports are always sent to the compiled-in default address, >never to the one set in the system-wide config file? There are some "config" values that are marked internally as not being user modifiable. This makes sense but, in my opinion, they should be modifiable from the global pine.conf.fixed. The patch is simple: --- pine/init.c 1995/07/25 09:22:54 1.1 +++ pine/init.c 1995/10/02 16:29:17 1.2 @@ -2089,7 +2089,7 @@ } /*--- Var is not user controlled, leave it alone for back compat ---*/ - if(!v->is_user){ + if(!v->is_user && which_vars != ParseFixed){ if(which_vars == ParseLocal){ pline->is_var = 0; pline->line = cpystr(line); -- Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Voice: +44 1734 890403 Fax: +44 1734 891192 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 07:02:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07127; Thu, 15 Feb 96 07:02:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15897; Thu, 15 Feb 96 06:35:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay5.UU.NET by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15891; Thu, 15 Feb 96 06:35:55 -0800 Received: from uucp1.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP id QQadao02797; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 09:35:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from akoo.UUCP by uucp1.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 09:35:54 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 09:14:42 -0500 (EST) From: Superuser To: Ross MacKinnon Cc: cac.washington.edu!pine-info@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Pine mail program binary for SCO? In-Reply-To: <4frhci$m3k@ra.isisnet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-16838-824393682=:3830" Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 318 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-16838-824393682=:3830 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 14 Feb 1996, Ross MacKinnon wrote: > > Does anyone know if there's a compiled binary for 'Pine' available for > SCO Unix 3.2v4.2? > > Please email replies. > > TIA, > Ross I JUST GOT DONE DOING JUST THIS. 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Pine is not designed to run > securely in this mode. These sites presumably trust their users not to create other files in this directory. Not an ideal assumption where Undergraduates are concerned :-( Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 08:29:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10156; Thu, 15 Feb 96 08:29:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11389; Thu, 15 Feb 96 08:03:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11383; Thu, 15 Feb 96 08:03:07 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 15 Feb 1996 14:25:15 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id OAA01238; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 14:26:09 GMT Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 14:26:09 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Jan Arne Fagertun Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Threading news in Pine In-Reply-To: <3122FE71.41C6@varme.sintef.no> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 320 Well, I guess it depends on what you mean by threading... But to my mind the "$O" command sequence gives a good enough effect to be considered threading. In particular, it groups articles sharing a common subject together, arranged in date order. This is one perfectly valid meaning of "threading" as implemented by a number of dedicated news reading programs. Admittedly others use the fancier threading based on Xref: field values, and some even do both. I don't see how you can dismiss Pine's behaviour when the same effect is used by dedicated news reading programs. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 15 Feb 1996, Jan Arne Fagertun wrote: > Mike Brudenell wrote: > > On 12 Feb 1996, The Tattooed One wrote: > > > > > Is there a way to thread articles when using pine as a newsreader? > > > > Yes... use the Sort command ($) when viewing the newsgroup's index. This > > will then offer you a number of ways of ordering the messages. "O" > > (Ordered Subject) is best: primary sort key is subject, secondary key is > > date. > > That's not threading! > > -- > | Jan Arne Fagertun | > | Research Engineer, SINTEF Applied Thermodynamics and Fluid Dynamics | > | Phone : +47 73 59 68 90 Fax : +47 73 59 35 80 | > +------------ 950102 (jaf): Linuxers do it with pleasure -------------+ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 08:42:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10734; Thu, 15 Feb 96 08:42:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17940; Thu, 15 Feb 96 08:28:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay5.UU.NET by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17933; Thu, 15 Feb 96 08:28:20 -0800 Received: from uucp2.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP id QQadav03474; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 11:28:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from akoo.UUCP by uucp2.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 11:28:18 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 11:24:40 -0500 (EST) From: Superuser To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How can I research POP and unix-to-novell mailing Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 321 I have a vague idea that you can use POP and/or PC-PINE, mail coming into the Unix box and being distributed across the novell network to PC's( where we use Wordperfect Office Mail)F. Can someone direct me to relevant documents to help me in researching this possibility? ( Mail comes in via uucp on SCO UNIX V 3.2 I just now installed pine on SCO ( very nice! ) ) "There is a way that seems right to a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death" Proverbs 14:12 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 09:07:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12466; Thu, 15 Feb 96 09:07:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12704; Thu, 15 Feb 96 08:54:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12696; Thu, 15 Feb 96 08:54:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tn6t1-00038RC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 08:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mmmakela@cc.Helsinki.FI (Mikko Makela) Subject: Re: Can Pine do this ? Date: 13 Feb 1996 22:28:54 GMT Message-Id: <4fr3b6$t7h@oravannahka.Helsinki.FI> References: <4fq6fb$jd4@oravannahka.Helsinki.FI> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 322 Mikko Makela (mmmakela@cc.Helsinki.FI) wrote: : 2) To use arrow ("->") to show "current line". This would speed up : pine's operation much when using slow connections. Uh, sorry, I should have found this feature easily... (assume-slow-link) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 09:10:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12634; Thu, 15 Feb 96 09:10:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18458; Thu, 15 Feb 96 08:45:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18450; Thu, 15 Feb 96 08:44:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tn6nB-00038TC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 08:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mmmakela@cc.Helsinki.FI (Mikko Makela) Subject: Can Pine do this ? Date: 13 Feb 1996 14:16:11 GMT Message-Id: <4fq6fb$jd4@oravannahka.Helsinki.FI> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 323 I would like to know if there is a way to make Pine behave like this: 1) Use Left & Rigth cursor keys to move between index & message views and main & index views (like in fex. Tin-newsprogram). In my opinion this would be much more intuitive (and easier too) than current way of having to use return & 'i' or 'm'. 2) To use arrow ("->") to show "current line". This would speed up pine's operation much when using slow connections. 3) At start to go to the first message, which was received after last time pine was used (elm behaves this way by default I think), instead of going to first message which is unread. If this isn't possible yet, then I'll present a wish here that they would be implemented in the next version. These three minor enchancements surely wouldn't be hard to add but I think many could find them helpfull. Thanks for any response, Mikko Makela From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 09:24:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13372; Thu, 15 Feb 96 09:24:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13677; Thu, 15 Feb 96 09:16:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.onet.on.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13671; Thu, 15 Feb 96 09:16:54 -0800 Received: from sqarc.sq.com ([192.31.6.128]) by ns.onet.on.ca with SMTP id <250766>; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 12:17:06 -0500 Received: from sqraptor.sq.com by sqarc.sq.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0tn7IH-000CajC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 12:16 EST Received: by sqraptor.sq.com (5.x//ident-1.0) id AA04290; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 12:16:15 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 12:16:15 -0500 From: donald@sq.com Message-Id: <9602151716.AA04290@sqraptor.sq.com> To: gray@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine 3.91 on Sun OS4 locks up periodically for 2 minutes at a time Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, donald@sq.com, systems@sq.com X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 324 > From: Terry Gray > To: Donald Teed > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: pine 3.91 on Sun OS4 locks up periodically for 2 minutes at a time > Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications > > Something to try: make sure you set enable-mail-check-cue > then observe whether the freezes correspond to two asterisks showing up in > the upper-left-corner of the window. The asterisks indicate that pine is > checkpointing any state changes made to the mailbox; i.e., re-writing it. > > That wouldn't explain why it takes so long, but might help identify where > to look further... > > -teg Yes, the ** does appear as the freeze occurs. Does pine read the entire mail box in from scratch each time it checks for new mail? --Donald From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 09:34:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13927; Thu, 15 Feb 96 09:34:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20034; Thu, 15 Feb 96 09:25:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20028; Thu, 15 Feb 96 09:25:36 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14298; Thu, 15 Feb 96 09:25:33 -0800 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 09:25:32 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: donald@sq.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, systems@sq.com Subject: Re: pine 3.91 on Sun OS4 locks up periodically for 2 minutes at a time In-Reply-To: <9602151716.AA04290@sqraptor.sq.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 325 > Yes, the ** does appear as the freeze occurs. Does pine read > the entire mail box in from scratch each time it checks for new mail? No, the new-mail check is denoted by a single asterisk. The double asterisk denotes checkpointing changes in the folder to disk. These would normally be changes in flag status (e.g. from UNSEEN to SEEN). The implications of checkpointing depend on the mailbox format you have chosen to use. If you use the normal "mbox" format, Pine has the whole thing in virtual memory, and writes it back to disk. So if memory is limited, that means paging in from the swap disk, then back out to the "real" folder. If NFS is involved, things get more problematic because of NFS locking problems. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 10:08:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15441; Thu, 15 Feb 96 10:08:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20935; Thu, 15 Feb 96 10:00:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bud.indirect.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20929; Thu, 15 Feb 96 10:00:41 -0800 Received: from gatesofhell.indirect.com (ID-majik-01.indirect.com [165.247.71.3]) by bud.indirect.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA16024 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 10:45:39 -0700 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 10:44:59 -0800 (PST) From: Dan McGuirk To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: resynchronize command X-Sender: mcguirk@bud.indirect.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 326 Does pine support a resynchronize command like elm? In elm I can hit '$' and all the deleted messages in the folder disappear. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 11:22:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19299; Thu, 15 Feb 96 11:22:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16889; Thu, 15 Feb 96 11:12:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16883; Thu, 15 Feb 96 11:12:38 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05554; Thu, 15 Feb 96 11:12:36 -0800 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 11:12:33 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Lamont Granquist Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: SUGGESTION: ($)Sort on "To:" In-Reply-To: <4fv65p$g0t@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 327 Pine 3.92 will include sort-by-to. We haven't implemented multiple sig files yet... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 15 Feb 1996, Lamont Granquist wrote: > Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > From: Lamont Granquist > Subject: SUGGESTION: ($)Sort on "To:" > Date: 15 Feb 1996 11:41:45 GMT > Message-ID: <4fv65p$g0t@nntp5.u.washington.edu> > > I'm using pine 3.91. In the Folder Index screen the $ SortIndex > command does not have an option to sort on "To:". While at a casual > glance this might seem silly for those of us on mailing lists it > would be really nice (e.g. i finally got around to setting up procmail > to save posts to this list to a folder, now i want to pick all the > e-mail out of my inbox that i've saved and dump it all in this folder). > And it would be nice if the "To:" queried if you'd like to search just > "To:" lines or for all recipients (i.e. functionality of procmail "^TO" > alias). > > Is there a better place to send suggestions like this? > > While we're at it, how about having multiple .signatures based on the > recipient(s) (or other criteria)? That way I can have one .sig for > the alt-sex-bestiality-barney-L mailing list and another one for e-mail > to the chair of the physics dept here at UW... > > -- > Lamont Granquist E-mail: lamontg@u.washington.edu ICBM: 47 39'23"N 122 18'19"W > There comes a point, I'm afraid, where you begin to suspect that if there's > any _real_ truth, it's that the entire multidimentional infinity of the > Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs -- Douglas Adams > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 12:57:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23985; Thu, 15 Feb 96 12:57:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25467; Thu, 15 Feb 96 12:45:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25461; Thu, 15 Feb 96 12:45:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnAYJ-00038RC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 12:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Don Miller Subject: Re: *****Warning: Forger amongst us****** Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 21:34:36 -0800 Message-Id: References: <277cc$b3425.a4@rome.netwide.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <277cc$b3425.a4@rome.netwide.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 328 On Wed, 7 Feb 1996, w_sloan wrote: > PSA: A reader/poster amongst our newsgroups, Glen P. Ramsey, > gpramsey@dircon.co.uk, is attempting to *FORGE* postings. This > is a *serious* breach of RFC1036 (let alone netiquette) and could > result in the ultimate Usenet penalty for his server. If you do > not want to see shameless forgeries or possibly "mysterious" > cancellations, and if you do not want the valued contributors > (ie. you!) in this forum reduced to using long and repetitious > PGP signatures to protect themselves, then SPEAK OUT AND STOP FORGERS! > [snip] > > *****************Evidence from usenet archives follows**************** [snip] Having looked at your 'evidence' I find myself wondering whether you aren't over-reacting just a bit - the writer offers a perfectly reasonable explanation for his request, since many providers' newsreaders lock one into its default headers; if he has a personal domain, as he says, why shouldn't he adjust his headers accordingly? Besides, even if that is not his only motive, maybe he just wants to post anonymously; you might not like that, but it is NOT 'forgery', which means 'posting as someone else'. As long as he's not doing that, it is a much less serious matter. Cheers, Don Miller From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 13:21:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25937; Thu, 15 Feb 96 13:21:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20232; Thu, 15 Feb 96 13:05:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20224; Thu, 15 Feb 96 13:05:20 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08627; Thu, 15 Feb 96 13:04:58 -0800 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 13:04:55 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Dan McGuirk Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: resynchronize command In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 329 In Pine that is called eXpunge... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 15 Feb 1996, Dan McGuirk wrote: > Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 10:44:59 -0800 (PST) > From: Dan McGuirk > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: resynchronize command > X-Sender: mcguirk@bud.indirect.com > Message-ID: > > Does pine support a resynchronize command like elm? In elm I can hit '$' > and all the deleted messages in the folder disappear. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 13:22:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26024; Thu, 15 Feb 96 13:22:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20584; Thu, 15 Feb 96 13:15:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20578; Thu, 15 Feb 96 13:15:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnAzN-00038TC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 13:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mraaum@uio.no (Margrete Raaum) Subject: Re: Can I change the adressbook field in "To:"? Date: 15 Feb 1996 15:01:40 GMT Message-Id: <4fvhsk$9et@ratatosk.uio.no> References: <4fq3ul$g53@ci.ist.utl.pt> <4fq4vk$lk6@guava.epix.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 330 In article <4fq4vk$lk6@guava.epix.net>, dad@news.epix.net (DearOldDad) writes: >Seal do Mar (l33812@alfa.ist.utl.pt) wrote: >: When I write the nickname after the "To:" pine replaces it by the >: fullname and adress fields on the adressbook. Could I change it to nickname >: plus adress? Or any other field I wanted? >: thanx ... > >Yes, put the cursor at the beginnin of the To: field and edit it. >For example change 133812@alfa.ist.utl.pt >Change to Seal 133812@alfa.ist.utl.pt >Make sure you put in the space so it doesn't read 'Seal' as part of the >address. Huh? When you add a name to your addressbook pine asks you what the full name is. You are not obligated to write the full name...It will accept eg "Dracula, Count" too... Mrg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 14:02:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27855; Thu, 15 Feb 96 14:02:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21696; Thu, 15 Feb 96 13:55:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21688; Thu, 15 Feb 96 13:55:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnBab-00038TC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 13:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Pine vs. Elm Date: 15 Feb 96 14:39:41 GMT Message-Id: References: <4frkd8$8qu@crl.crl.com> <1996Feb14.085340.1@ubmail.ubalt.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 331 rdadams@ubmail.ubalt.edu (Dick Adams) writes: >ctorlins@crl.com (Christoph Torlinsky) writes: >> ELM versus PINE that is the question... >> >> At the company I work at there is some discussion on which >> is better and for what reason...I was wondering if anyone >> had any opinions to share to this? I am currently using >> pine3.91 on several flavours of unix, must say it is quite >> nice, simple and gets the jobby-job done. ALthough some think >> that elm is better at supporting pgp and so on... >> >> whats the word on the street? >Well, I have three accounts: two at universities with which I >am associated and a PPP/Slip account. I have the choice >between pine and elm on two and between pine and VMS mail on >the third. I chose elm with pico as my editor and vms mail >with edt as my editor. I have tried pine but have found the >others to be easier. If the right feature set is enabled on both, then I cannot imagine an operation except maybe pgp-encoding a message, which I have never used, that would be easier on elm than pine. For example, select all the messages with a given text pattern, or select a folder. When people make the above kind of statement, I always suspect they do not know how to use many of the features that pine offers. Such statements should be backed up with specifics so that we can refute them if possible. As the statement stands it is merely a religious statement. Please note, I vehemently disagree with the whole pine Usenet news philosophy and implementation, and I wish it supported older terminals like ADDS and ADM3a, etc. >Dick -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Web admin: chimera,nn,tin,jove,kermit - free's best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 14:07:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28188; Thu, 15 Feb 96 14:07:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27597; Thu, 15 Feb 96 13:55:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27590; Thu, 15 Feb 96 13:55:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnBab-00038RC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 13:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pegboy@gti.net (root beer!) Subject: Re: startup with INBOX Date: 15 Feb 1996 16:11:06 GMT Message-Id: <4fvluq$7ep@gti.gti.net> References: <4fu31s$hn0@lscpdx.lattice.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 332 Try: pine -i >From the command line. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 16:40:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05831; Thu, 15 Feb 96 16:40:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01921; Thu, 15 Feb 96 16:35:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01915; Thu, 15 Feb 96 16:35:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnE7X-00038RC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 16:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: black@chrysalis.mig.upenn.edu (Mark H. Black) Subject: UNKNOWN: disable-kblock-cmd Date: 15 Feb 1996 21:48:25 GMT Message-Id: <4g09n9$g22@netnews.upenn.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 333 Earlier this week, we had a user try to lock her keyboard using the "K" option. Then, she could not unlock the session (forgot password). We have tried to disable the keyboard lock option in the pine.conf but have been getting: Unrecognized feature in feature-list (disable-kblock-cmd) returned in our .pine.debug# file. Is disable-kblock-cmd the correct option to enter in the feature list to disable keyboard locking? Or are we misspelling it (this spelling is what is described in the nmanual)? Thanks, Mark H. Black From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 17:25:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08632; Thu, 15 Feb 96 17:25:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03249; Thu, 15 Feb 96 17:20:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from golden_orb.sunsetdirect.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03243; Thu, 15 Feb 96 17:20:12 -0800 Received: by golden_orb.sunsetdirect.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for pine-info@cac.washington.edu id RAA13011; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 17:20:27 -0800 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 17:20:27 -0800 Message-Id: <199602160120.RAA13011@golden_orb.sunsetdirect.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dmonahan@fiddleback.sunsetdirect.com Subject: INTERNET SLEUTHS - NEW GAME STARTS TONIGHT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 334 Tonight at midnight is your chance to get a sneak preview, and an advance start on other players. 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From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 18:06:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10008; Thu, 15 Feb 96 18:06:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27962; Thu, 15 Feb 96 18:01:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27955; Thu, 15 Feb 96 18:00:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnFQb-00038RC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 17:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bs@alien2.ed.nce.sita.int (BerScho) Subject: c-client Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 16:35:03 GMT Message-Id: <4fvn75$glc@elwood.es.atl.sita.int> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 335 I've downloaded the c-client code from wasshington.edu but cannot find the related documentation. Who cvan help me?? many thanks in advance/Bernard From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 18:09:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10168; Thu, 15 Feb 96 18:09:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03911; Thu, 15 Feb 96 18:01:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03905; Thu, 15 Feb 96 18:01:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnFQb-00038TC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 17:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Don Miller Subject: Hmm - just who's the 'forger'? Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 21:50:23 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/REPORT; REPORT-TYPE=delivery-status; BOUNDARY="QAA09651.824362709/lawson.its.utas.edu.au" Content-Id: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 336 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --QAA09651.824362709/lawson.its.utas.edu.au Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Hello, all: I just posted the message you probably saw, in response to the rantings of someone accusing someone else of being a 'forger'. As I usually do, I CC'd a copy of the message via e-mail to the address listed by the author of the message to which I responded. I got it back in about three seconds, with the error message copied below; given the tone of their complaint, I thought it was rather funny... Don Miller ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 05:38:29 +0000 (GMT) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: dmiller@jfku.jfku.edu Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: figaro.rome.netwide.net: host not found) The original message was received at Thu, 15 Feb 1996 05:38:26 +0000 (GMT) from NS1.JFKU.EDU ----- The following addresses have delivery notifications ----- (unrecoverable error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 ... Host unknown (Name server: figaro.rome.netwide.net: host not found) --QAA09651.824362709/lawson.its.utas.edu.au-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 19:01:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12026; Thu, 15 Feb 96 19:01:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28823; Thu, 15 Feb 96 18:56:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28817; Thu, 15 Feb 96 18:56:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnGJL-00038TC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 18:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Seth Rogovoy Subject: Signature Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 19:43:48 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 337 Sorry. I know this is a FAQ, but I looked through Pine Help, Release notes and the Robot and couldn't find what I need anywhere. Plus I fiddled with Config and still couldn't produce a signature at the end of my messages. Can anyone tell me, in plain English, the steps I need to take to create a signature at the end of my messages? thanks, seth From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 22:26:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17981; Thu, 15 Feb 96 22:26:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07785; Thu, 15 Feb 96 22:21:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07779; Thu, 15 Feb 96 22:21:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnJVT-00038TC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 22:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: !! What does Pine call the message? !! Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 16:03:44 +0100 Message-Id: <9602151503.AA29520@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 338 In article , you write: |> In order to try to solve the problem of pine's print to ansii command not |> working, when connected to Pine on the Suns via modem using Ckermit in |> linux, I am reconfiguring the print command. This is option three in the |> printer configuration. I would like print to execute a small script. I have assigned "print" to a script which does some postscript formatting of the mail message (header and body in different fonts, running page title). My script begins with the line # store the incoming mail in a temporary file cat - >/tmp/$$.tmp and then goes on manipulating $$.tmp. The fact is that Pine passes the message on stdin, not on a temporary file ! If you need a file you have to trap it yourself. BTW in matter of suggestions to the Pine development team, I'd like that besides passing the message on stdin, some extra info were passed as arguments. Chiefly I'd like to have the message number in the folder (the other info I can extract from the mail header, but this one is nowhere) : I'd like to put a running header on each page saying : Message # nn of folder XXX : From YYYY on date DDDD (at the moment I can do the second part only !) -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 23:04:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18813; Thu, 15 Feb 96 23:04:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02237; Thu, 15 Feb 96 23:01:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ccn.cs.dal.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02231; Thu, 15 Feb 96 23:01:13 -0800 Received: by ccn.cs.dal.ca id <11574(1)>; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 03:03:46 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 03:03:41 -0400 From: "Marsha C. Holmes" To: Seth Rogovoy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Signature In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 339 Hi Seth Go to your "files" area in Lynx (not Pine) and (C)reate a file. After you create the file, you can (E)dit it and do your signature. To save it, you type Ctrl x (^x). Once you have done that, it will automatically appear when you compose a message in Pine. I hope this answers your question. Cheers! Marsha = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = /\ /\ : { `---' } : { O O } : ~~> V <~~ : Marsha C. Holmes (ac573@ccn.cs.dal.ca) \ \|/ / : http://www.ccn.cs.dal.ca/~ac573/Profile.html `-----'__ : - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - / \ `^\_ : "To err is human; { }\ |\_\_ _ : To purr feline." | \_/ |/ / \_\_( ) : - Robert Byrne \__/ /(_/ \__/ : (__/ : = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = On Thu, 15 Feb 1996, Seth Rogovoy wrote: > Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 20:43:48 -0400 > From: Seth Rogovoy > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Signature > > Sorry. I know this is a FAQ, but I looked through Pine Help, Release > notes and the Robot and couldn't find what I need anywhere. Plus I > fiddled with Config and still couldn't produce a signature at the end of > my messages. > > Can anyone tell me, in plain English, the steps I need to take to > create a signature at the end of my messages? > > thanks, > seth > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 23:40:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19530; Thu, 15 Feb 96 23:40:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08698; Thu, 15 Feb 96 23:36:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08692; Thu, 15 Feb 96 23:36:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnKfO-00038TC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 23:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Andrews Subject: Re: Making Pine use full height and width of screen Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 13:12:47 -0800 Message-Id: References: <9602110150.AA06014@ea831.fnal.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 340 On 14 Feb 1996, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > I read your other message, apologizing for not offering to post a summary. > > The answer is "it depends". What OS? What shell? > > The easiest way to find out how many lines is with resize. The trick is > getting the LINES and COLUMNS set in stty. On SunOS 4.x, 'eval `resize`' > would set the values in stty. Since I have switched to Solaris 2.3 or so, I > have found that it is much trickier. There are all the standard problems of > setting an environment variable in the current shell, that is what eval is > for. You will have to read the manpages for stty, eval, and resize, and > experiment. > > posted and cc'ed > Thanks for your reply. I am using SunOS with tcsh as my shell. Following your advice I added 'eval `resize > /dev/null`' to my .login file. This successfully sets the values in stty so that pine now makes use of the full height and width of my screen. In summary: the trick is to set the correct values for stty. This is most easily done (on my system of SunOS and tcsh) by using the resize command as described by Stewart above. Thanks, Peter From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 15 23:40:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19561; Thu, 15 Feb 96 23:40:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02669; Thu, 15 Feb 96 23:36:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02657; Thu, 15 Feb 96 23:36:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnKfO-00038RC; Thu, 15 Feb 96 23:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Dube Subject: Reply to post in newsgroup w/o personal reply? Date: 15 Feb 1996 12:51:54 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 341 When I reply to a post in a newsgroup, Pine automatically sends e-mail to the original poster in addition to to the newsgroup. It does allow a personal reply without a post to the newsgroup, but not posting reply to the newsgroup without an e-mail to the original poster. How do I reply to the post in the newsgroup without sending a separate e-mail reply to the orginal poster? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 00:15:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20207; Fri, 16 Feb 96 00:15:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03104; Fri, 16 Feb 96 00:11:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03098; Fri, 16 Feb 96 00:11:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnLF0-00038RC; Fri, 16 Feb 96 00:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: messages marked delete in non-INBOX folders Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 20:44:34 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 342 This problem is fixed in Pine 3.92. On Thu, 15 Feb 1996, Yossi Klein wrote: > I had noticed in the past that upon leaving a non-INBOX folder I would > get indication that some of my messages were being removed. What I just > realized is that if you save a message that is marked Deleted the Deleted > flag stays on in the saved message. If you later leave the folder that > you save to, the message gets removed without any warning. Now, I know > that I have the expunge-without-confirm option turned on, but I thought > that was only when you do an explicit expunge. I think that the Delete > flag should be turned off on the saved message. I can see no practical > reason to keep it on. > > I know that it's probably too late to put a fix for this in 3.92 > (assuming, of course, that the PINE developers consider this a problem), > but I just wanted to point this out so that other PINE users don't find > messages unexpectedly disappearing from their folders. > > BTW, I think that Pine is a great tool. (With mail tools like Pine and > scripting languages like Perl, who needs anything else? :-) > > Joe Klein > Expert Alerts > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 00:36:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20652; Fri, 16 Feb 96 00:36:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09369; Fri, 16 Feb 96 00:31:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09363; Fri, 16 Feb 96 00:31:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnLVI-00038RC; Fri, 16 Feb 96 00:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: 7{lO'/Vd5i95SoI}l Subject: Downloading Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 22:50:17 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 343 I need help downloading off of newsgroups. If anybody can help it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ggeiger@wsunix.wsu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 02:39:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23453; Fri, 16 Feb 96 02:39:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04883; Fri, 16 Feb 96 02:30:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04836; Fri, 16 Feb 96 02:26:44 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 16 Feb 1996 10:23:46 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA19825; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 10:24:33 GMT Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 10:24:32 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Mark H. Black" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: UNKNOWN: disable-kblock-cmd In-Reply-To: <4g09n9$g22@netnews.upenn.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 344 The correct name for the feature list is "disable-keyboard-lock-cmd" You may well want to set this in the global fixed configuration file (pine.conf.fixed) rather than pine.conf. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 15 Feb 1996, Mark H. Black wrote: > Earlier this week, we had a user try to lock her keyboard using the "K" option. > > Then, she could not unlock the session (forgot password). > > We have tried to disable the keyboard lock option in the pine.conf but have been > getting: > > Unrecognized feature in feature-list (disable-kblock-cmd) > > returned in our .pine.debug# file. > > Is disable-kblock-cmd the correct option to enter in the feature list to disable > keyboard locking? Or are we misspelling it (this spelling is what is described > in the nmanual)? > > Thanks, > > Mark H. Black > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 02:39:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23487; Fri, 16 Feb 96 02:39:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04909; Fri, 16 Feb 96 02:32:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04903; Fri, 16 Feb 96 02:32:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnNSJ-00038RC; Fri, 16 Feb 96 02:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rdadams@ubmail.ubalt.edu (Dick Adams) Subject: Re: Pine vs. Elm Date: 14 Feb 96 08:53:40 -0500 Message-Id: <1996Feb14.085340.1@ubmail.ubalt.edu> References: <4frkd8$8qu@crl.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 345 ctorlins@crl.com (Christoph Torlinsky) writes: > ELM versus PINE that is the question... > > At the company I work at there is some discussion on which > is better and for what reason...I was wondering if anyone > had any opinions to share to this? I am currently using > pine3.91 on several flavours of unix, must say it is quite > nice, simple and gets the jobby-job done. ALthough some think > that elm is better at supporting pgp and so on... > > whats the word on the street? Well, I have three accounts: two at universities with which I am associated and a PPP/Slip account. I have the choice between pine and elm on two and between pine and VMS mail on the third. I chose elm with pico as my editor and vms mail with edt as my editor. I have tried pine but have found the others to be easier. Dick From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 03:36:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24516; Fri, 16 Feb 96 03:36:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11615; Fri, 16 Feb 96 03:26:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11609; Fri, 16 Feb 96 03:26:32 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 16 Feb 1996 10:44:18 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA16361; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 10:14:35 GMT Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 10:14:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Michael Dube Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply to post in newsgroup w/o personal reply? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 346 Ummm... Are you sure things are happening quite as you describe? We are using Pine 3.91 here and when replying (R) to a Usenet News article Pine asks if the reply is to go to the newsgroup(s)... ...If I say "N" then a message is started with only the "To:" field filled in (ie, an e-mail only to the article's author); ...If I say "Y" then a message is started with only the "Newsgroups:" fields filled in (ie, the "To:" field is blank so no e-mail will be sent). If I want to send to both I have to use one of the above and then fill in the other field. However if you are getting both fields filled in (or, indeed, want to fill in the other as I do) simply edit the fields. (You may need to use ^R (Rich Headers) to get them all displayed.) To blank out a field (say the "To:" field) just put your cursor on it and type ^K (the usual "Cut Text" command). Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 15 Feb 1996, Michael Dube wrote: > > When I reply to a post in a newsgroup, Pine automatically sends e-mail to > the original poster in addition to to the newsgroup. It does allow a > personal reply without a post to the newsgroup, but not posting reply to > the newsgroup without an e-mail to the original poster. > > How do I reply to the post in the newsgroup without sending a separate > e-mail reply to the orginal poster? > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 05:55:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28009; Fri, 16 Feb 96 05:55:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13435; Fri, 16 Feb 96 05:37:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13429; Fri, 16 Feb 96 05:37:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnQLc-00038RC; Fri, 16 Feb 96 05:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: resynchronize command Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 19:07:55 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 347 On 15 Feb 1996, Dan McGuirk wrote: > Does pine support a resynchronize command like elm? In elm I can hit '$' > and all the deleted messages in the folder disappear. I suppose this is what you want. In Pine, when looking at a folder index, press 'x' for "eXpunge" and all messages marked for deletion will disappear (for good!). If you don't want to have to respond to a prompt, go into your configuration and enable expunge-without-confirm (if memory serves me correctly). Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 06:06:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28297; Fri, 16 Feb 96 06:06:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07362; Fri, 16 Feb 96 05:37:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07356; Fri, 16 Feb 96 05:37:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnQLc-00038TC; Fri, 16 Feb 96 05:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Text Attributes!? Date: 16 Feb 1996 00:48:26 GMT Message-Id: <4g0k8q$lcq@fu-berlin.de> References: <4fu9lt$jn5@fu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 348 ac573@ccn.cs.dal.ca ("Marsha C. Holmes") writes: >I don't think Sven's comments on this attribute are valid. >It's an *excellent* idea (sorry to take up 8bit chars with >the "*" emphasises, Sven). On the contrary, dear Marsha! People not using Pine will wonder what the ^a,^b, and ^c are doing in the posts as they dont get to see that effect. Thus emphasis with asterisks is a lot better as they will show with any pager. Characters with special meanings do not have the same effect on all programs. Especially for 8bit characters. Examples? Signatures in ibm.pc groups! Whatever you write - you had better use ASCII (0x00-0x7F) only. That's why I almost never use umlauts, ie äöüß. :-) Btw, Marsha: If Pine is such a good newsreader then why should there be any need to quote everything I said, including my signature and header lines? One word: Threading. Sven [WTFIIWTPN Holmes A?] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 09:57:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07720; Fri, 16 Feb 96 09:57:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18229; Fri, 16 Feb 96 09:32:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18223; Fri, 16 Feb 96 09:32:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnU1A-00038RC; Fri, 16 Feb 96 09:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: SUGGESTION: ($)Sort on "To:" Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 18:50:24 GMT Message-Id: <4fvv6g$cr2@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <4fv65p$g0t@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 349 lamontg@u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist) wrote: >I'm using pine 3.91. In the Folder Index screen the $ SortIndex >command does not have an option to sort on "To:". While at a casual >glance this might seem silly for those of us on mailing lists it >would be really nice (e.g. i finally got around to setting up procmail >to save posts to this list to a folder, now i want to pick all the >e-mail out of my inbox that i've saved and dump it all in this folder). >And it would be nice if the "To:" queried if you'd like to search just >"To:" lines or for all recipients (i.e. functionality of procmail "^TO" >alias). Yeah, that'd be great. But to accomplish what you're trying to do, use the semi-colon command to select a group of messages, choose "t" for selection by text criteria and "t" for selection based on the "To:" field and enter the text you're searching for. Then use the "a" command to apply the "s" save command to move the selected messages to the folder of your choice. (You can repeat this process to search the "Cc:" field as well.) To do this the "enable-aggregate-command-set" feature must be checked in your setup. ----- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 voice: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~rbasu/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 10:24:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08949; Fri, 16 Feb 96 10:24:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19285; Fri, 16 Feb 96 10:13:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19279; Fri, 16 Feb 96 10:12:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnUZq-00038RC; Fri, 16 Feb 96 10:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: suppressing cc: in distribution lists Date: 16 Feb 1996 15:02:26 GMT Message-Id: <4g26a2$ct1@fu-berlin.de> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 350 Seth Rogovoy writes: >How can I suppress a long list of CC:s in a distribution list I create so >that everyone who receives the message doesn't have to scroll through a >list of everyone else receiving said message? Put them onto the Bcc line! It aint called "blind" carbon copy for nuthin', ya know. ;-) >p.s. there would be a signature here if I could figure out how to do it! Troll? Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 10:25:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09069; Fri, 16 Feb 96 10:25:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13412; Fri, 16 Feb 96 10:12:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13404; Fri, 16 Feb 96 10:12:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnUbJ-00038TC; Fri, 16 Feb 96 10:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: billc@rainbow.rmii.com (Bill Cripe) Subject: Re: Pine mail program binary for SCO? Date: 16 Feb 1996 15:08:04 GMT Message-Id: <4g26kk$1r5@natasha.rmii.com> References: <4frhci$m3k@ra.isisnet.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 351 Ross MacKinnon (ak065@ccn.cs.dal.ca) wrote: : Does anyone know if there's a compiled binary for 'Pine' available for : SCO Unix 3.2v4.2? : Please email replies. : TIA, : Ross Try ftp.celestial.com in pub/sco-ports/unix. There is another site ftp.eruassi.co.za where I used to find compiled SCO stuff, but I haven't been able to get through to them lately. Bill Cripe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 11:46:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13473; Fri, 16 Feb 96 11:46:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15660; Fri, 16 Feb 96 11:32:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from access2.digex.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15650; Fri, 16 Feb 96 11:32:18 -0800 Received: (from wkriegsm@localhost) by access2.digex.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA05601 ; for ; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 14:32:02 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 14:32:00 -0500 (EST) From: Will Kriegsman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Unable to Print Using QL2FAX program Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 352 I use DOS/QL2FAX and except in one instance have had no problem using pine. Another person on Digex.net uses WIN/QL2FAX and is also unable to print using the "Y" command. We have tried everything the others at Digex use but with no success. Is anyone aware of a peculiar problem with the QL2FAX program and, hopefully a fix? Would appreciate any replies be sent via email since I don't cover this list regularly. TIA Will Kriegsman +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Will Kriegsman INTERNET: wkriegsm@access.digex.net + + 5615 Ridgefield Road CIS: 72647,3726 + + Bethesda, MD 20816 Tel.: (301) 229-0472 + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 12:19:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14908; Fri, 16 Feb 96 12:19:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16649; Fri, 16 Feb 96 12:08:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16643; Fri, 16 Feb 96 12:08:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnWNW-00038RC; Fri, 16 Feb 96 12:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mihai T. LAZARESCU" Subject: Re: SUGGESTION: ($)Sort on "To:" Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 18:19:17 +0000 Message-Id: References: <4fv65p$g0t@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4fv65p$g0t@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 353 On 15 Feb 1996, Lamont Granquist wrote: > I'm using pine 3.91. In the Folder Index screen the $ SortIndex > command does not have an option to sort on "To:". While at a casual > glance this might seem silly for those of us on mailing lists it > would be really nice (e.g. i finally got around to setting up procmail > to save posts to this list to a folder, now i want to pick all the > e-mail out of my inbox that i've saved and dump it all in this folder). > And it would be nice if the "To:" queried if you'd like to search just > "To:" lines or for all recipients (i.e. functionality of procmail "^TO" > alias). That can be a nice feature. But in the meanwhile you can use the same procmail to sort out from you inbox file based on "To:" field criteria the messages you like. Just a suggestion. Mihai Lazarescu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 13:06:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17534; Fri, 16 Feb 96 13:06:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23832; Fri, 16 Feb 96 12:58:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23824; Fri, 16 Feb 96 12:58:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnX9b-00038RC; Fri, 16 Feb 96 12:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "John N. Underwood" Subject: Re: pine locks up Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 15:56:11 -0500 Message-Id: References: <1996Feb14.182458.18328@sq.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1996Feb14.182458.18328@sq.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 354 On Wed, 14 Feb 1996, Donald Teed wrote: > Regarding Pine version 3.91: > > I have a problem with pine that we have not been able to explain > due to network traffic, machine loads or size of mail file. > During the day I periodically get a lock up or freeze of pine > which I can not associate with any command usage or event. > ... Does anyone have any knowledge of this problem or suggestions > on what to check? We are experiencing similar problems here. We are using Pine3.91 and Solaris 2.4. Every so often, Pine will freeze during mailbox accesses. This frequently occurs during startup. Eventually, the access timesout and Pine resumes. This is not just a problem with Pine, however. We have had similar problems with ELM and WordPerfect. We recompiled ELM so that the only file locking mechanism being used is the filename.lock method. Apparently this is an option in the Makefile. This seems to have fixed the problem with ELM. Unfortunately, I haven't figured out how to turn off this locking mechanism within Pine (and thus depend only upon the filename.lock method). We think that it is a problem with Sun's "fcntl", which is called within "flock", which is used within imap's c-client. Perhaps using "maillock" would be a better alternative to using flock/fcntl? -- John N. Underwood - junderw@cs.clemson.edu http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~junderw/junderw.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 13:09:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17705; Fri, 16 Feb 96 13:09:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23689; Fri, 16 Feb 96 12:53:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23683; Fri, 16 Feb 96 12:53:29 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:53:31 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id OAA29981; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 14:22:44 GMT Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 14:22:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Dan McGuirk Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: resynchronize command In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 355 "X" (eXpunge) will permanently get rid of all messages you have marked for deleting and (I think) check for newly arrived mail. It doesn't do anything (either of these) if you have no messages marked for delete. ^L is the accepted way of checking for new mail: it clears the screen and redraws it, checking for new mail in the process. Take your pick... :-) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 15 Feb 1996, Dan McGuirk wrote: > Does pine support a resynchronize command like elm? In elm I can hit '$' > and all the deleted messages in the folder disappear. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 13:30:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18793; Fri, 16 Feb 96 13:30:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18596; Fri, 16 Feb 96 13:18:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18590; Fri, 16 Feb 96 13:18:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnXWm-00038UC; Fri, 16 Feb 96 13:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Yossi Klein Subject: messages marked delete in non-INBOX folders Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 15:57:40 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 356 I had noticed in the past that upon leaving a non-INBOX folder I would get indication that some of my messages were being removed. What I just realized is that if you save a message that is marked Deleted the Deleted flag stays on in the saved message. If you later leave the folder that you save to, the message gets removed without any warning. Now, I know that I have the expunge-without-confirm option turned on, but I thought that was only when you do an explicit expunge. I think that the Delete flag should be turned off on the saved message. I can see no practical reason to keep it on. I know that it's probably too late to put a fix for this in 3.92 (assuming, of course, that the PINE developers consider this a problem), but I just wanted to point this out so that other PINE users don't find messages unexpectedly disappearing from their folders. BTW, I think that Pine is a great tool. (With mail tools like Pine and scripting languages like Perl, who needs anything else? :-) Joe Klein Expert Alerts From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 14:13:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21172; Fri, 16 Feb 96 14:13:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25586; Fri, 16 Feb 96 13:53:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25580; Fri, 16 Feb 96 13:53:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnY0z-00038RC; Fri, 16 Feb 96 13:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lbill@abs.net (Bill Larduskey) Subject: Pine on MP-RAS Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 18:14:33 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 357 Has anyone configured Pine 3.91 to run under MP-RAS. I could not find any hooks into SMTP based mail, just SMAIL or SENDMAIL. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 16:32:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28089; Fri, 16 Feb 96 16:32:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22579; Fri, 16 Feb 96 15:43:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22573; Fri, 16 Feb 96 15:43:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnZlu-00038RC; Fri, 16 Feb 96 15:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Chandra S. Chitneni" Subject: MIME: application/octet-stream setup Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 14:17:30 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 358 I am trying to send an attachment(testing with a text document itself) from Claris Emailer1.02(POP Client) with the attachment encoded in Base 64 format. Here is the header Claris Emailer is adding. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --Emailer_-1314892122 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" This is a test message. -chan --Emailer_-1314892122 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="attach-test.a"; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="57504332" Content-transfer-encoding: base64 TUlDSEVMTEUgVi4gWllST01TS0kKMzQ2MiBDZW50ZW5uaWFsIEJsdmQuICM1MQpFdWdlbmUsIE9y xx-------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am trying view this attachment from pine. If I save the attachment, it is in the plain readable text format. But I want to view the message. I created a /etc/mailcap with the following entry. application/octet-stream; pico %s The contents are getting garbled even though I can read the saved attachment nicely. Is there any way I display the attachment. Thanks for any information. -chandra From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 16:50:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29100; Fri, 16 Feb 96 16:50:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00616; Fri, 16 Feb 96 16:33:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00610; Fri, 16 Feb 96 16:33:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnaX9-00038RC; Fri, 16 Feb 96 16:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmconra@ibm.net Subject: Pine w/ Wyse 50 Date: 16 Feb 1996 02:35:20 GMT Message-Id: <4g0qh8$4jaq@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 359 What is the best way to make Pine 3.91 correctly use the arrow keys on a Wyse 50? I don't particularly want to translate keys coming from the wyse50 so the arrows will work correctly? Am I correct in that pine ignores the arrows from the terminfo and/or termcap? Any help would be appreciated. rob@happy.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 16:51:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29166; Fri, 16 Feb 96 16:51:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00624; Fri, 16 Feb 96 16:33:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00618; Fri, 16 Feb 96 16:33:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnaXA-00038UC; Fri, 16 Feb 96 16:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: c-client Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 19:58:06 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4fvn75$glc@elwood.es.atl.sita.int> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4fvn75$glc@elwood.es.atl.sita.int> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 360 On Thu, 15 Feb 1996, BerScho wrote: > I've downloaded the c-client code from wasshington.edu but cannot find > the related documentation. > Who cvan help me?? > many thanks in advance/Bernard The old imap-3.6 toolkit has some out of date documentation in a file called Internal.DOC. There is no documentation yet for the imap-4 toolkit other than how to build the IMAP and POP daemons (in the README file). You need to read the source code, or get a copy of the old Internal.DOC file and take what you read with a large rock of salt. The imap toolkit is designed for primarily for programmers, with a secondary purpose of providing the latest versions of the IMAP and POP daemons. If your intention is to build and install Pine, you are better off getting the Pine distribution. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 16:51:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29193; Fri, 16 Feb 96 16:51:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24147; Fri, 16 Feb 96 16:33:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24139; Fri, 16 Feb 96 16:33:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnaX9-00038TC; Fri, 16 Feb 96 16:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Security issues with PINE Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 19:53:07 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 361 On 15 Feb 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > On Mon, 12 Feb 1996, Mark Crispin wrote: > > Some sites protect the [mail spool] directory 775 and give mail programs > > setgid access to group "mail" instead. Pine is not designed to run > > securely in this mode. > > These sites presumably trust their users not to create other files in > this directory. Not an ideal assumption where Undergraduates are > concerned :-( If your site is well-managed and properly configured, it shouldn't matter. Between the sticky bit on the directory and security checks in the agent (/bin/mail or whatever) that delivers mail, there aren't any security problems. Denial of service problems can be dealt with by using disk quotas or administrative measures; ditto if you're worried about people using it as a unauthorized file storage area (you don't have one of those paranoid sites that doesn't let users use /tmp, are you?). Actually, the cost of disk space has plummeted to below $.25/MB. There's no excuse in this day and age for a campus computing facility to offer inadequate disk space. -- Mark -- (who remembers the 64K disk quota he had as an undergrad) DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 17:56:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02395; Fri, 16 Feb 96 17:56:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26318; Fri, 16 Feb 96 17:53:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26312; Fri, 16 Feb 96 17:53:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnbq6-00038RC; Fri, 16 Feb 96 17:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Reply to post in newsgroup w/o personal reply? Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:25:27 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 362 On 15 Feb 1996, Michael Dube wrote (excerpt): > When I reply to a post in a newsgroup, Pine automatically sends e-mail to ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > the original poster in addition to to the newsgroup. To be honest, I have never heard of this behavior. For instance, when I went to reply to your post, Pine is not trying to send email to you. Are you sure you are using the current version of Pine (3.91) with *no* local modifications? Ask your system administrator whether you have a "plain vanilla" version of Pine. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 18:26:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03071; Fri, 16 Feb 96 18:26:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03300; Fri, 16 Feb 96 18:23:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03294; Fri, 16 Feb 96 18:23:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tncIx-00038RC; Fri, 16 Feb 96 18:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kinau@lennon.pub.csufresno.edu (Kin Hung Au) Subject: BUG?! pine eats CPU time Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 06:18:41 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 363 Hi folks, We installed pine on Sparc Server 1000 running solaris 2.5. Sometimes, we notice some user's pine processes running forever. It eats a lot of CPU times and brings up the load average. It is really de-grading our machine. The problem is that the user was logout but the pine process still running with parent's process ID #1. I read some of previous article from this newsgroup. It said it is related imapd. What is imapd? We didn't install it on our system. Will it fix the problem if we install imapd on the system? Is it any patch to fix this problem? I can't find a bug report on offical pine WWW site. Did the pine developer notice that? Is it going to fix on next version? We may consider not going to use pine if we can't find the solution. --Kin ****************************************************************************** Kin Hung Au Internet Address: kinau@csufresno.edu Student Software Specialist California State University, Fresno Tel# 209-278-2355 Computing, Communications & Media Services FAX# 209-278-4660 Fresno CA 93740 http://maxwell.phys.csufresno.edu:8001/Dept/staff/kinau.html ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 18:42:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03435; Fri, 16 Feb 96 18:42:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27039; Fri, 16 Feb 96 18:38:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27033; Fri, 16 Feb 96 18:38:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tncW7-00038RC; Fri, 16 Feb 96 18:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Jurist Inc." Subject: MIME encoder/decoder for unix? Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 15:05:53 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 364 Could anyone please tell me where I get a MIME encoder/decoder for unix? I would greatly appreciate any replies! Jeff Reply to: Jeff@jurist.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 19:07:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03892; Fri, 16 Feb 96 19:07:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03833; Fri, 16 Feb 96 19:04:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03827; Fri, 16 Feb 96 19:03:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnctu-00038RC; Fri, 16 Feb 96 19:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: donald@sq.com (Donald Teed) Subject: Re: pine 3.91 on Sun OS4 locks up periodically for 2 minutes at a time Message-Id: <1996Feb16.231926.21606@sq.com> References: <9602151716.AA04290@sqraptor.sq.com> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 23:19:26 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 365 gray@cac.washington.edu (Terry Gray) writes: >> Yes, the ** does appear as the freeze occurs. Does pine read >> the entire mail box in from scratch each time it checks for new mail? >No, the new-mail check is denoted by a single asterisk. The double >asterisk denotes checkpointing changes in the folder to disk. These would >normally be changes in flag status (e.g. from UNSEEN to SEEN). >The implications of checkpointing depend on the mailbox format you have >chosen to use. If you use the normal "mbox" format, Pine has the whole >thing in virtual memory, and writes it back to disk. So if memory is >limited, that means paging in from the swap disk, then back out to the >"real" folder. If NFS is involved, things get more problematic because of >NFS locking problems. Well, the problem does not happen with elm, running in the same circumstances. It looks like a bug or inefficiency in Pine. --Donald Teed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 20:07:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05137; Fri, 16 Feb 96 20:07:59 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28132; Fri, 16 Feb 96 20:04:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28126; Fri, 16 Feb 96 20:04:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnds4-00038RC; Fri, 16 Feb 96 20:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: summers@deakin.edu.au (JONATHAN CHARLES SUMMERS) Subject: Receipting messages in Pine Date: 17 Feb 1996 00:44:12 GMT Message-Id: <4g38cs$ktc@sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 366 Hi I have looked but can't find out how to add a receipt to a message, or in other words get a receipt for a message that has been delivered. Does anybody know if it's possible and if so how to do it?? -- o0o JonathanS http://busker.trumpet.com.au/adm/admusic.htm From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 20:57:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06136; Fri, 16 Feb 96 20:57:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05319; Fri, 16 Feb 96 20:54:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05313; Fri, 16 Feb 96 20:54:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnecY-00038RC; Fri, 16 Feb 96 20:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schumann@krypton.mankato.msus.edu (Paul L Schumann) Subject: Re: startup with INBOX Date: 16 Feb 1996 22:37:53 GMT Message-Id: <4g3102$4au@nitrogen.mankato.msus.edu> References: <4fu31s$hn0@lscpdx.lattice.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 367 Jay Lessert (jayl@galileo.lattice.com) wrote: : In article , : Michiel Perdeck wrote: : >(How) can I start PINE with the INBOX folder opened immediately, without : >having to go thru menu and selection? : You can set "initial-keystroke-list" in your .pinerc, so: : # Pine executes these keys upon startup (e.g. to view msg 13: i,j,1,3,CR,v) : initial-keystroke-list=i An alternative on Unix systems is to define an alias. For example, I use the C-Shell, so in my .cshrc file, I define two aliases: alias pn "pine -i" alias p "pine -I l" Then, if I want to enter pine and go directly into my inbox, I use my pn command (I named it that for pine newmail), and if I want to enter pine and go directly to the folder list (for example, if I want to compose a message or if I want to read an existing message), I use my p command. -- Paul L. Schumann, Ph.D. | E-Mail: schumann@krypton.mankato.msus.edu Professor of Management | Office Phone: (507) 389-5349 263 Morris Hall | Secretary's Phone: (507) 389-2966 Mankato State University | Messages: (507) 389-2966 Mankato, MN 56002-8400 | Fax Number: (507) 389-5497 http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~schumann/www/welcome.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 21:43:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07010; Fri, 16 Feb 96 21:43:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05822; Fri, 16 Feb 96 21:35:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [139.232.10.12] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05816; Fri, 16 Feb 96 21:35:46 -0800 Received: from MEDCOM1.SMTPLINK.AMEDD.ARMY.MIL by host.hcssa.e-mail.amedd.army.mil id aa12597; 16 Feb 96 21:11 CST Received: from ccMail by medcom1.smtplink.amedd.army.mil (SMTPLINK V2.10.06) id AA824499215; Thu, 15 Feb 96 11:23:34 CST Date: Thu, 15 Feb 96 11:23:34 CST From: Andrew_Davis@MEDCOM1.SMTPLINK.AMEDD.ARMY.MIL Encoding: 13 Text Message-Id: <9601168244.AA824499215@medcom1.smtplink.amedd.army.mil> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine Binary for Solaris 2.4 on a PC Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 368 Does anyone have or know how to obtain the pre-compiled binary for pine to run on a PC running Solaris 2.4? I have been trying to compile the code found on the Pine web pages and I can't get it to work. Any responses could be mailed to: Andrew_Davis@smtplink.medcom.amedd.army.mil and andyd@metricanet.com Thank you, Andy. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 21:56:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07220; Fri, 16 Feb 96 21:56:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29476; Fri, 16 Feb 96 21:53:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29470; Fri, 16 Feb 96 21:53:44 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13211; Fri, 16 Feb 96 21:53:42 -0800 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 21:53:41 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Donald Teed Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine 3.91 on Sun OS4 locks up periodically for 2 minutes at a time In-Reply-To: <1996Feb16.231926.21606@sq.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 369 I'm not certain what Elm's checkpointing or locking policies are, but I'm pretty sure it puts its working copy of the mailbox into a temp file rather than into virtual memory (i.e. swap file) --so that's one significant difference. You might consider switching to Tenex mailbox format, which doesn't need to read the mailbox into virtual memory. (See Pine Tech Notes for details). -teg On Fri, 16 Feb 1996, Donald Teed wrote: > gray@cac.washington.edu (Terry Gray) writes: > >> Yes, the ** does appear as the freeze occurs. Does pine read > >> the entire mail box in from scratch each time it checks for new mail? > > >No, the new-mail check is denoted by a single asterisk. The double > >asterisk denotes checkpointing changes in the folder to disk. These would > >normally be changes in flag status (e.g. from UNSEEN to SEEN). > > >The implications of checkpointing depend on the mailbox format you have > >chosen to use. If you use the normal "mbox" format, Pine has the whole > >thing in virtual memory, and writes it back to disk. So if memory is > >limited, that means paging in from the swap disk, then back out to the > >"real" folder. If NFS is involved, things get more problematic because of > >NFS locking problems. > > Well, the problem does not happen with elm, running in > the same circumstances. It looks like a bug or inefficiency in Pine. > > --Donald Teed > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 23:02:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08374; Fri, 16 Feb 96 23:02:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00426; Fri, 16 Feb 96 22:59:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00420; Fri, 16 Feb 96 22:59:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tngXV-00038RC; Fri, 16 Feb 96 22:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ray McAllister Subject: Pine screwup in rec.scuba Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 23:52:07 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 370 Please, any suggedtions for the following. When I do a "W" = where is, and type "fiji", instead of getting any post with Fiji in it, my screen all turns to caps and inappropriate caps at that. For example ? reads as ? HJ+- and M reads as Mthen a square K+ MJ++ and V reads as [SJ+JL+]. Only capitals in news items remain readable. Any ideas. Thanks a lot/ Ray McAllister, Prof (Emeritus) Ocean Eng., FAU, Boca Raton, FL 33064 Diving Dinosaur, Geologist/Oceanographer/Ocean Engineer, 44 years SCUBA mcallist@gate.net (954) 426-0808, Author Diving Locations, Boynton/Dania From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 23:41:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09112; Fri, 16 Feb 96 23:41:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07341; Fri, 16 Feb 96 23:39:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07335; Fri, 16 Feb 96 23:39:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnhB8-00038RC; Fri, 16 Feb 96 23:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sam From Chattanooga Subject: Re: Pine onto floppy disk Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 02:33:38 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 371 > On Wed, 7 Feb 1996, Ray McAllister wrote: > > > Please tell me how to get a pine message onto a floppy disk. I use > > Procomm Plus to get pine and have a 486-99 and both sizes of floppies. > > Since I cannot find any way to print pine messages (the three options in > > setup do not work) I figure to export to disk and print from the disk????? > > Thanks a million! > while reading the mail u want to print you can alt l which turns on the printer... Or you can export with the e command to your unix directory and then do a alt f1 and then cat "filename" to save output to your hardrive.. or three do a cat "filename" precceded by a alt l to go to your printer.. this is my signature file... soberlin@moccasun.utc.edu natchez,ms;realtor;scuba;cooking;chattanooga,tn;hang gliding; From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 16 23:47:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09195; Fri, 16 Feb 96 23:47:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00969; Fri, 16 Feb 96 23:44:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00963; Fri, 16 Feb 96 23:44:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnhJI-00038RC; Fri, 16 Feb 96 23:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Carlos P-P Subject: Problems with Pine or Pico and Copy/Paste Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 16:43:05 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 372 Hi there, If i need to copy a text from my Mac - it goes to the Clipboard - to paste it into Pico or a mail i'm creating with Pico, sometimes the copy goes on a endless look. If you can help, please mail me. Thanks, CArlos ________________________________________________________________________ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ CERN LHC/IAS _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ 1211 Geneve 23 - CH _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ Tel: (022) 767 43 25 _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/_ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ \ _/_/ _/ _/ \ _/ _/ e_mail - C.Pinto-Pereira@Cern.Ch Url - http://nicewww.cern.ch/~pintopc/welcome.htm "La culture c'est ce qui reste quand on a tout oublie" ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 17 00:05:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09616; Sat, 17 Feb 96 00:05:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01182; Sat, 17 Feb 96 00:03:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from melia.qut.edu.au by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01170; Sat, 17 Feb 96 00:03:02 -0800 Received: from sparrow.qut.edu.au (root@sparrow.qut.edu.au) by melia.qut.edu.au (PMDF V5.0-4 #13254) id <01I1BUK53LVK00I0SM@melia.qut.edu.au> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 18:00:27 +1000 Received: by sparrow.qut.edu.au; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/27Jul94-0551PM) id AA05571; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 16:45:12 +1000 Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 16:45:12 +1000 (EST) From: YONG LOW Subject: Information on Communicating on-line. To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 373 Pls provide me with information on communicating on-line on the PC. Thank you. Vagabond From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 17 01:37:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12022; Sat, 17 Feb 96 01:37:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08677; Sat, 17 Feb 96 01:34:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08671; Sat, 17 Feb 96 01:34:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnj08-00038RC; Sat, 17 Feb 96 01:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: whahn@hyowon.cc.pusan.ac.kr (Wonha Ahn) Subject: Re: Signature at Bottom ? Date: 17 Feb 1996 05:18:00 GMT Message-Id: <4g3oe8$std@jagalchi.cc.pusan.ac.kr> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 374 Nevin Kapur (nevin@ee.iitb.ernet.in) wrote: : When I forward a mail or reply (with the original message text included), : my sig appears at the top of the mail with the message text following : it. Of course I can manually transfer it to the bottom of the text but is : it possible for this to happen on its own? 1. S for Setup 2. C for Config, and then 3. Setting "signature-at-bottom" with X Or Editing the file $HOME/.pinerc (feature-list=signature-at-bottom) Hope, it helps. -- (Mr.) Won-Ha AHN The Rural Pedagogue From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 17 02:07:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12422; Sat, 17 Feb 96 02:07:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02566; Sat, 17 Feb 96 02:04:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02560; Sat, 17 Feb 96 02:04:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnjSl-00038RC; Sat, 17 Feb 96 02:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Seth Rogovoy Subject: suppressing cc: in distribution lists Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 22:42:11 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 375 How can I suppress a long list of CC:s in a distribution list I create so that everyone who receives the message doesn't have to scroll through a list of everyone else receiving said message? thanks, seth p.s. there would be a signature here if I could figure out how to do it! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 17 02:22:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12673; Sat, 17 Feb 96 02:22:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09125; Sat, 17 Feb 96 02:19:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asterix.DGA.co.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09119; Sat, 17 Feb 96 02:19:45 -0800 Received: from getafix.DGA.co.uk (getafix.DGA.co.uk [192.160.109.196]) by asterix.DGA.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA20912 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 10:19:23 GMT Received: by getafix.DGA.co.uk ((IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0539; Sat, 17 Feb 96 10:17:43 GMT Message-Id: <9602171017.AA0539@getafix.DGA.co.uk> Received: from DGA with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 0F4FA2E376A8C983002562D2007AEC04; Sat, 17 Feb 96 10:17:42 To: pine-info From: Peter Coates Date: 16 Feb 96 22:23:19 Subject: Pine for OS/2? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 376 Where can I find an OS/2 implementation of Pine? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 17 04:08:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14933; Sat, 17 Feb 96 04:08:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10583; Sat, 17 Feb 96 04:05:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10577; Sat, 17 Feb 96 04:05:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnlLG-00038RC; Sat, 17 Feb 96 04:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: pine 3.91 on Sun OS4 locks up periodically for 2 minutes at a time Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 23:56:42 -0800 Message-Id: References: <9602151716.AA04290@sqraptor.sq.com> <1996Feb16.231926.21606@sq.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1996Feb16.231926.21606@sq.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 377 On Fri, 16 Feb 1996, Donald Teed wrote: > gray@cac.washington.edu (Terry Gray) writes: > >> Yes, the ** does appear as the freeze occurs. Does pine read > >> the entire mail box in from scratch each time it checks for new mail? > > >No, the new-mail check is denoted by a single asterisk. The double > >asterisk denotes checkpointing changes in the folder to disk. These would > >normally be changes in flag status (e.g. from UNSEEN to SEEN). > > >The implications of checkpointing depend on the mailbox format you have > >chosen to use. If you use the normal "mbox" format, Pine has the whole > >thing in virtual memory, and writes it back to disk. So if memory is > >limited, that means paging in from the swap disk, then back out to the > >"real" folder. If NFS is involved, things get more problematic because of > >NFS locking problems. > > Well, the problem does not happen with elm, running in > the same circumstances. It looks like a bug or inefficiency in Pine. > > --Donald Teed Elm doesn't checkpoint. If a system crash happens, your changes are lost. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 17 07:40:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18076; Sat, 17 Feb 96 07:40:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06184; Sat, 17 Feb 96 07:30:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06178; Sat, 17 Feb 96 07:30:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnoWF-00038RC; Sat, 17 Feb 96 07:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: billd@doa.net (Bill D) Subject: Re: Restricting access to /etc/passwd Date: 17 Feb 1996 00:38:48 GMT Message-Id: <4g382o$ilh@dickinson.doa.net> References: <4fe6q5$8e2@news.ramhb.co.nz> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 378 In article <4fe6q5$8e2@news.ramhb.co.nz> in newsgroup comp.mail.pine, Andrew Johnston (andrew@inhb.co.nz) wrote: : I am trying to restrict access to my /etc/passwd file. However pine : insists on using it and I therefore have the file readable by the : world. : Does anyone know if this can be restricted so pine can read another : cutdown passwd file or not reference it at all? For various reasons, the /etc/passwd file needs to be world readable. What you may wish to implement is shadow passwording, which leaves the userid and GECOS information in the file, but points to another, hidden password file for the password itself. The password field in /etc/passwd is then set to * or ! or x or some such character. Bill -- billd@doa.net billd@voicenet.com (Bill Duetschler) "Yesterday, apropos of nothing, one friend said to me 'Do you ever have days where you just want to get everyone you know together in one place, have them all take off their clothes, and let nature take its course?'" --Susan Groppi From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 17 11:15:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22308; Sat, 17 Feb 96 11:15:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15394; Sat, 17 Feb 96 11:10:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15388; Sat, 17 Feb 96 11:10:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tns19-00038RC; Sat, 17 Feb 96 11:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pww@bnr.ca (Peter Whittaker) Subject: Re: Threading news in Pine Date: 16 Feb 1996 16:04:07 GMT Message-Id: <4g29tn$ci1@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> References: <3122FE71.41C6@varme.sintef.no> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 379 In article , Mike Brudenell wrote: >I don't see how you can dismiss Pine's behaviour when the same effect is >used by dedicated news reading programs. In the same way that I can dismiss anything that claims to be something it is not, no matter how widely implemented it might be. Subject sorting is not threading. Subject sorting does not organize the articles by their place and order in the discussion, nor does subject sorting allow one to keep up with a thread when the subject changes, something which happens quite frequently in lenghthy discussions. One analogy that helps make this clear is trn's "article tree". If your newsreader sorts on subject then on date, articles with a given subject are arranged on a line: while article n+1 may in fact be a response to article n, it might be a response to article n-10; you can't tell with a subject-then-date based newsreader, as subject-then-date sorting doesn't make track the relationship between articles. When subjects change, subject-then-date sorting loses the new track altogether. Threading, on the other hand, organizes articles in a tree: on any given branch, article n+1 does follow article n, and if article n generates multiple responses, their will be multiple n+1 articles, each on its own branch. To make explicit some of the language used above, subject-then-date sorting is one-dimensional: the variable of interest is the date, and dates by themselves do not supply any information about the structure and flow of the discussion. X-ref based threading is multi-dimensional, and organizes articles based on the structure of the discussion; I say multi-dimensional because the ability of threading to follow a discussion through subject changes introduces another "degree of freedom" in tracking a discussion. pww -- Peter Whittaker [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] X.500 Specialist pww@entrust.com [ http://www.entrust.com ] Nortel Secure Networks Ph: +1 613 765 2064 [ ] P.O. Box 3511, Station C FAX:+1 613 765 3520 [__________________________] Ottawa, Canada, K1Y 4H7 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 17 11:16:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22353; Sat, 17 Feb 96 11:16:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08956; Sat, 17 Feb 96 11:10:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08950; Sat, 17 Feb 96 11:10:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tns19-00038TC; Sat, 17 Feb 96 11:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Jagdis Subject: Re: Pine w/ Wyse 50 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 13:09:34 GMT Message-Id: References: <4g0qh8$4jaq@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 380 rob@happy.com said >What is the best way to make Pine 3.91 correctly use the arrow >keys on a Wyse 50? You can't. Pine ignores key definitions in termcap/terminfo and the arrow keys on a Wyse 50 aren't reprogrammable short of blowing a new EPROM. I have some patches to Pine 3.91 that add correct use of key definitions in termcap/terminfo plus they fix some bugs and add some features (but they are optional). Let me know if you want them. If also have SCO and Linux binaries - but *only* SCO and Linux. Mike -- Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Voice: +44 1734 890403 Fax: +44 1734 891192 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 17 15:08:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27428; Sat, 17 Feb 96 15:08:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11963; Sat, 17 Feb 96 15:01:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11953; Sat, 17 Feb 96 15:01:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnvaK-00038RC; Sat, 17 Feb 96 14:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jp1ek@sunc.shef.ac.uk (Earl H. Kinmonth) Subject: Re: Pine mail program binary for SCO? Date: 17 Feb 1996 21:18:09 GMT Message-Id: <4g5gmh$bl8@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <4frhci$m3k@ra.isisnet.com> <4g26kk$1r5@natasha.rmii.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 381 Bill Cripe (billc@rainbow.rmii.com) wrote: : Ross MacKinnon (ak065@ccn.cs.dal.ca) wrote: : : Does anyone know if there's a compiled binary for 'Pine' available for : : SCO Unix 3.2v4.2? I have done this compilation. If you want a copy write me at cck@kuso.shef.ac.uk. -- Earl H. Kinmonth, Centre for Japanese Studies, University of Sheffield, Sheffield, England S10 2TN jp1ek@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 17 16:41:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29124; Sat, 17 Feb 96 16:41:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19603; Sat, 17 Feb 96 16:36:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19597; Sat, 17 Feb 96 16:36:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnx4H-00038RC; Sat, 17 Feb 96 16:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tony Calguire Subject: Pine spell checker Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 00:34:58 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 382 On Sun, 11 Feb 1996, Chester Paul S'groi wrote: > > 3. Either a better spell checker, or the option to link the Pine and > Pico editor to a better spell checker from the user point of view. > Is the Pine/Pico spell-checker something that can be customized for a particular site? If I sent my system gurus a list of words that I think should be added to Pine's dictionary, could they do it? __ _____________ /_____ _____/ Tony Calguire _____/_/____ / __________/ calguire@freenet.msp.mn.us ( (__/ /____ \__/ /____/ / / /_/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 17 17:25:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00116; Sat, 17 Feb 96 17:25:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13668; Sat, 17 Feb 96 17:21:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13662; Sat, 17 Feb 96 17:21:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnxmA-00038RC; Sat, 17 Feb 96 17:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nevin Kapur Subject: Signature at Bottom ? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 06:38:03 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 383 Hi, When I forward a mail or reply (with the original message text included), my sig appears at the top of the mail with the message text following it. Of course I can manually transfer it to the bottom of the text but is it possible for this to happen on its own? Nevin *----------------------------------------------------------------------------* NEVIN KAPUR | Electrical Engineering | Indian Institute of Technology, Bombay INTERNET http://ee.iitb.ernet.in/~nevin , nevin@ee.iitb.ernet.in SNAILMAIL C/20 Garib Society,5th NS Road,JVPD Scheme Bombay,400 049.INDIA PHONE 628 1091, 624 0272 *----------------------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 17 17:30:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00197; Sat, 17 Feb 96 17:30:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13710; Sat, 17 Feb 96 17:26:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jumbo.ntplx.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13704; Sat, 17 Feb 96 17:26:14 -0800 Received: by ntplx.net (4.1/NETPLEX-2.3.0) id AA17057; Sat, 17 Feb 96 20:26:29 EST Received: by quoin1.quoininc.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnoRj-000FEhC; Sat, 17 Feb 96 10:21 EST Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 10:21:11 -0500 (EST) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: Seth Rogovoy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: suppressing cc: in distribution lists In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 384 On Thu, 15 Feb 1996, Seth Rogovoy wrote: > How can I suppress a long list of CC:s in a distribution list I create so > that everyone who receives the message doesn't have to scroll through a > list of everyone else receiving said message? Use bcc: which is available in rich header mode (^R). --- Jean Pierre From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 17 19:38:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02409; Sat, 17 Feb 96 19:38:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15395; Sat, 17 Feb 96 19:33:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [196.3.72.4] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15389; Sat, 17 Feb 96 19:33:32 -0800 Received: by nelofer.erum.com.pk (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tnzs6-0001sZC; Sun, 18 Feb 96 08:33 pst Received: by twasim.khi.erum.com.pk!twasim; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 08:31:38 X-Mailer: WinNET Plus, v3.0 Message-Id: <5@twasim.twasim.khi.erum.com.pk> Reply-To: azfar@twasim.khi.erum.com.pk (TAHIR WASIM) To: pine-faq@cac.washington.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 08:31:38 Subject: MIME-aware tools From: azfar@twasim.khi.erum.com.pk (TAHIR WASIM) Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 385 Can you please send me a copy of FAQ. I wish to educate myself about MIME. How can I download these utilities ? Thanks Regards & best wishes. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 17 20:13:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03090; Sat, 17 Feb 96 20:13:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22209; Sat, 17 Feb 96 20:06:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22203; Sat, 17 Feb 96 20:06:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0to0LD-00038RC; Sat, 17 Feb 96 20:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: suppressing cc: in distribution lists Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 19:25:07 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 386 On Thu, 15 Feb 1996, Seth Rogovoy wrote: > How can I suppress a long list of CC:s in a distribution list I create so > that everyone who receives the message doesn't have to scroll through a > list of everyone else receiving said message? Put the list in the Bcc: field. Just be sure to put _something_ (such as your own address) in the To: field. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 17 23:51:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06407; Sat, 17 Feb 96 23:51:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18207; Sat, 17 Feb 96 23:47:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18201; Sat, 17 Feb 96 23:47:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0to3pg-00038RC; Sat, 17 Feb 96 23:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dereksam@unixg.ubc.ca (DEREK SAM) Subject: HELP!: READ ONLY Folder Date: 8 Feb 1996 23:42:35 GMT Message-Id: <4fe1pb$al8@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 387 Hi. I was trying to delete some mail while using PINE the other day (on my university's account), but PINE said that it cannot delete the mail because the folder was "READ ONLY" (and whenever I open the folder, it says "READ ONLY". How do I bypass this? Or toggle the readonly off? thanks Please try to e-mail me as I don't check the group often. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 17 23:55:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06454; Sat, 17 Feb 96 23:55:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24658; Sat, 17 Feb 96 23:52:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24652; Sat, 17 Feb 96 23:52:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0to3sj-00038RC; Sat, 17 Feb 96 23:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gapol@ikp.atm.com.pl (Gazeta Polska) Subject: Pine on Solaris 2.4 x86 Date: 17 Feb 1996 22:57:37 GMT Message-Id: <4g5mh1$2ap@tirion.atm.com.pl> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 388 Have anybody compiled Pine 3.91 to run on the Solaris 2.4 x86? Regards, Krzysztof Czuma From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 18 00:31:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06943; Sun, 18 Feb 96 00:31:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18675; Sun, 18 Feb 96 00:27:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18669; Sun, 18 Feb 96 00:27:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0to4S5-00038RC; Sun, 18 Feb 96 00:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: joemcl@cais2.cais.com (Joe McLaughlin) Subject: read in lsit of addresses? Date: 17 Feb 1996 00:30:59 GMT Message-Id: <4g37k3$on9@zippy.cais.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 389 Hi, I want to send email to a large list of addresses. How can I read in the list to the TO: field? When composing message text it is possible to read in a file from your directory, I want to do the same thing with a list. In the alternate, can someone recommend a ail program that will allow me to do import a dbase file or ascii list as an email list? -- Joe McLaughlin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 18 05:03:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12464; Sun, 18 Feb 96 05:03:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28268; Sun, 18 Feb 96 04:57:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28262; Sun, 18 Feb 96 04:57:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0to8dy-00038RC; Sun, 18 Feb 96 04:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: summers@deakin.edu.au (JONATHAN CHARLES SUMMERS) Subject: Re: .Signature - Where is it?? Date: 18 Feb 1996 08:34:51 GMT Message-Id: <4g6obb$ace@sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au> References: <4f1ot0$c76@sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 390 To everyone who placed me on the right track - Thanks :-)) C.Pinto-Pereira (pintopc@mail.cern.ch) wrote: : summers@deakin.edu.au (JONATHAN CHARLES SUMMERS) wrote: : Hi Jonathan : : >The setup suggests that as I haven't defined my signature account it >will use the default .signature - problem is I can't find .signature. : My VERY LONG :-( signature was created on my home directory on the Unix account using the default name ".signature" : ________________________________________________________________________ : Carlos Pinto-Pereira : _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ CERN LHC / IAS : _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ 1211 Genève 23 - CH : _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ Tel: (022) 767 43 25 : _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ : _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/_ _/ : _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ \ _/_/ _/ _/ \ _/ _/ : e_mail - Pinto-Pereira@cern.ch : Url - http://nicewww.cern.ch/~pintopc/welcome.htm : "La culture c'est ce qui reste quand on a tout oublie" : ________________________________________________________________________ -- o0o JonathanS http://busker.trumpet.com.au/adm/admusic.htm From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 18 06:33:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13549; Sun, 18 Feb 96 06:33:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22725; Sun, 18 Feb 96 06:28:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22719; Sun, 18 Feb 96 06:27:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0toA2D-00038RC; Sun, 18 Feb 96 06:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Erik Johansen Subject: Re: Blinking text In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 14:14:48 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 391 On Wed, 14 Feb 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Wed, 14 Feb 1996, Neal Santin u wrote: > > > Anyone know how to make the message text blink? I've seen a few messages > > in which the text blinks and I would like to know how to do it. > > This is actually not a very good idea. It depends on the hardware > setup of the message recipient's terminal. On some terminals the message > will blink (or appear in color, or whatever), but on other terminals it > will just make a mess. There are no standards, and it's really not very > polite to those whose terminals cannot handle it. Is there a way to make Pine not show this kind of escape characters etc. In one of the newsgroups I have had my screen lock up several times because of a person that uses escape sequences in his From: address. Erik --- --- Erik Johansen System Programmer Department of Information Technology ej@it.dtu.dk postmaster@it.dtu.dk Technical University of Denmark http://www.it.dtu.dk/~ej/ Unix, Perl, Psion, Network -- [ Note: On jan 1st 'id.dtu.dk' domain was changed to 'it.dtu.dk' ] --- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 18 07:52:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14521; Sun, 18 Feb 96 07:52:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29984; Sun, 18 Feb 96 07:48:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29978; Sun, 18 Feb 96 07:48:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0toBHc-00038RC; Sun, 18 Feb 96 07:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynch.94@osu.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: Re: Pine and spell checking Date: 9 Feb 1996 01:31:27 GMT Message-Id: References: <4fc5l3$deq@rs10.tcs.tulane.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 392 If you're using linux, this is probably because /usr/bin/spell is a link to ispell. Make /usr/bin/spell be the following file instead: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- #! /bin/sh # # A front-end to ispell which allows it to act like the "spell" program # By: Christopher Neufeld # case $# in 0) ispell -l | sort | uniq ;; *) cat $@ | ispell -l | sort | uniq ;; esac ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This will make the command "spell" behave like the typical unix spell command. To actually use ispell with its list of suggested words, you can make ispell the alternate editor by adding the following to your .pinerc: editor=/usr/bin/ispell -x Hope that helps. On 8 Feb 1996 06:36:19 GMT, Mark Chin wrote: >I have a problem with pine I hope someone can help me with. When I try to >spell check a document I get this whole list of options that appear in the >text of my letter. I think this is a problem with pico. Can anyone help >configure this properly? -- Jerry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 18 09:07:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15927; Sun, 18 Feb 96 09:07:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00923; Sun, 18 Feb 96 09:01:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jumbo.ntplx.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00917; Sun, 18 Feb 96 09:01:19 -0800 Received: by ntplx.net (4.1/NETPLEX-2.3.0) id AA26997; Sun, 18 Feb 96 12:01:32 EST Received: by quoin1.quoininc.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0toBuW-000FEhC; Sun, 18 Feb 96 11:24 EST Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 11:24:28 -0500 (EST) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: Joe McLaughlin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: read in lsit of addresses? In-Reply-To: <4g37k3$on9@zippy.cais.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 393 On 17 Feb 1996, Joe McLaughlin wrote: > Hi, I want to send email to a large list of addresses. How can I read in > the list to the TO: field? When composing message text it is possible to > read in a file from your directory, I want to do the same thing with a list. The simplest approach would be to define a distribution list in the pine address book. See the pine help for details. --- Jean Pierre From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 18 10:09:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17440; Sun, 18 Feb 96 10:09:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01687; Sun, 18 Feb 96 10:04:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Malone.InfoRamp.Net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01681; Sun, 18 Feb 96 10:04:10 -0800 Received: from ts17-14.tor.InfoRamp.Net (ts17-14.tor.InfoRamp.Net [204.191.138.154]) by malone.inforamp.net (8.7/8.7) with SMTP id NAA02731 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 13:03:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 13:03:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199602181803.NAA02731@malone.inforamp.net> X-Sender: aerdelyi@inforamp.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: alex erdelyi Subject: Re: The MIME information you requested (last changed Oct 23 15:09) Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 394 >Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 11:29:19 >To: UW Email Robot >From: alex erdelyi >Subject: Re: The MIME information you requested (last changed Oct 23 15:09) > >Greetings >Thank you for your prompt response however, I still seem to have some problem(s). >After having read the README.FIRST and downloaded the viewer, I received an error message: > "Unable to launch external viewer. Error code=16" > >Would you please help me with this one. Tnak you - Alex E. > > >At 06:33 AM 2/18/96 -0800, you wrote: >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>What is MIME? >> >>MIME stands for "Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions". It is the >>standard for how to send multipart, multimedia, and binary data using the >>world-wide Internet email system. Typical uses of MIME include sending >>images, audio, wordprocessing documents, programs, or even plain text >>files when it is important that the mail system does not modify any part >>of the file. MIME also allows for labelling message parts so that a >>recipient (or mail program) may determine what to do with them. >> >>How can I read a MIME message? >> >>Since MIME is only a few years old, there are still some mailers in use >>which do not understand MIME messages. However, there are a growing >>number of mail programs that have MIME support built-in. (One popular >>MIME-capable mailer for Unix, VMS and PCs is Pine, developed at the >>University of Washington and available via anonymous FTP from the host >>ftp.cac.washington.edu in the file /pine/pine.tar.Z) >> >>In addition, several proprietary email systems provide MIME translation >>capability in their Internet gateway products. However, even if you do >>not have access to a MIME-capable mailer or suitable gateway, there is >>still hope! >> >>There are a number of stand-alone programs that can interpret a MIME >>message. One of the more versatile is called "munpack". It was developed >>at Carnegie Mellon University and is available via anonymous FTP from the >>host ftp.andrew.cmu.edu in the directory pub/mpack/. There are versions >>available for Unix, PC, Mac and Amiga systems. For compabibility with >>older forms of transferring binary files, the munpack program can also >>decode messages in split-uuencoded format. >> >>Does MIME replace UUENCODE? >> >>Yes. UUENCODE has been used for some time for encoding binary files so >>that they can be sent via Internet mail, but it has several technical >>limitations and interoperability problems. MIME uses a more robust >>encoding called "Base64" which has been carefully designed to survive the >>message transformations made by certain email gateways. >> >>How can I learn more about MIME? >> >>The MIME Internet standard is described in RFC-1521, available via >>anonymous FTP from many different Internet hosts, including: >> >> o US East Coast >> Address: ds.internic.net (198.49.45.10) >> >> o US West Coast >> Address: ftp.isi.edu (128.9.0.32) >> >> o Pacific Rim >> Address: munnari.oz.au (128.250.1.21) >> >> o Europe >> Address: nic.nordu.net (192.36.148.17) >> >>Look for the file /rfc/rfc1521.txt >> >>Another source of information is the Internet news group "comp.mail.mime", >>which includes a periodic posting of a "Frequently Asked Questions" list. >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 18 10:14:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17532; Sun, 18 Feb 96 10:14:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25196; Sun, 18 Feb 96 10:08:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25190; Sun, 18 Feb 96 10:08:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0toDW6-00038RC; Sun, 18 Feb 96 10:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: les@MCS.COM (Leslie Mikesell) Subject: Re: Security issues with PINE Date: 16 Feb 1996 22:42:46 -0600 Message-Id: <4g3mc6$jhh@Mercury.mcs.com> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 395 In article , Mike Brudenell wrote: >On Mon, 12 Feb 1996, Mark Crispin wrote: > >> Some sites protect the [mail spool] directory 775 and give mail programs >> setgid access to group "mail" instead. Pine is not designed to run >> securely in this mode. > >These sites presumably trust their users not to create other files in >this directory. Not an ideal assumption where Undergraduates are >concerned :-( No, they expect the mail programs not to create arbitrary files using their setgid status. Les Mikesell les@mcs.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 18 15:22:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24035; Sun, 18 Feb 96 15:22:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29247; Sun, 18 Feb 96 15:14:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29241; Sun, 18 Feb 96 15:14:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0toIHg-00038TC; Sun, 18 Feb 96 15:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Online status via email request (Re: Help) Date: 18 Feb 1996 20:01:02 GMT Message-Id: <4g80hu$s30@fu-berlin.de> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 396 "Randy R. Ringnlada" writes: >Is it possible in pine to find out when a certain user has been online? >RRingnald@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu Send mail to "postmaster@host.domain" with subject "loginstat username", eg: To: postmaster@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu Subject: loginstat ringnald Btw, there are two errors in your post: 1) You mipselt your name ("Ringnlada" instead of "Ringnalda"). 2) You mispllt your address ("RRingnald" instead of "ringnald"). HTH. Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 18 19:55:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28930; Sun, 18 Feb 96 19:55:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09296; Sun, 18 Feb 96 19:49:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09290; Sun, 18 Feb 96 19:49:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0toMXp-00038RC; Sun, 18 Feb 96 19:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ctorlins@crl.com (Christoph Torlinsky) Subject: Pine3.91 on ptx4.1.2 Date: 16 Feb 1996 23:58:06 -0800 Message-Id: <4g41qe$15h@crl10.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 397 Hello, just wondering if the current distro of pine3.91 will workk and compile fine on Sequent Dynix/ptx 4.1.2? Thanks a bunch..got it to work on 2.1.1. no sweat... -chris From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 18 22:14:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01725; Sun, 18 Feb 96 22:14:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04560; Sun, 18 Feb 96 22:10:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04554; Sun, 18 Feb 96 22:10:19 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04621; Sun, 18 Feb 96 22:10:12 -0800 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 22:10:11 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Peter Whittaker Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Threading news in Pine In-Reply-To: <4g29tn$ci1@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 398 > >I don't see how you can dismiss Pine's behaviour when the same effect is > >used by dedicated news reading programs. > > In the same way that I can dismiss anything that claims to be something > it is not, no matter how widely implemented it might be. > > Subject sorting is not threading. Pine does not do threading and doesn't claim to do threading. OrderSubject sorting is still useful, but it certainly isn't true threading. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 19 01:47:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05836; Mon, 19 Feb 96 01:47:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07099; Mon, 19 Feb 96 01:40:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07089; Mon, 19 Feb 96 01:40:30 -0800 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 19 Feb 1996 09:37:45 +0000 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA13418; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 09:38:41 GMT Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 09:38:39 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Erik Johansen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Blinking text In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 399 On Fri, 16 Feb 1996, Erik Johansen wrote: > Is there a way to make Pine not show this kind of escape characters etc. > > In one of the newsgroups I have had my screen lock up several times > because of a person that uses escape sequences in his From: address. I asked about this a while back on this list. I seem to recall that Pine 3.92 will contain some enhancement/changes to suppress the display of such "problem" characters. > Erik > --- --- > Erik Johansen System Programmer Department of Information Technology > ej@it.dtu.dk postmaster@it.dtu.dk Technical University of Denmark > http://www.it.dtu.dk/~ej/ Unix, Perl, Psion, Network > -- [ Note: On jan 1st 'id.dtu.dk' domain was changed to 'it.dtu.dk' ] --- Thereby causing yet more potential confusion for us poor Brits still suffering under the legacy of reversed domain names compared with the rest of the world. ("it" = "Italy" and "dk" = "Denmark" ... so is "it.dtu.dk" in Italy (old-style Brit terminology) or in Denmark (new-style (world-compatible) Brit terminology). Thankfully problems are now much fewer given the radical change within the UK over to conventional Internet address ordering. :-) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 19 02:20:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06348; Mon, 19 Feb 96 02:20:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07449; Mon, 19 Feb 96 02:15:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07443; Mon, 19 Feb 96 02:15:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0toSYX-00038RC; Mon, 19 Feb 96 02:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jim eagle Subject: Pine and Pico binaries for Silicon Graphics In-Reply-To: <4g26kk$1r5@natasha.rmii.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <4frhci$m3k@ra.isisnet.com> <4g26kk$1r5@natasha.rmii.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 05:15:55 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 400 Hello --- Could I please get a steer to Pine and Pico binaries for Silicon Graphics Indigo workstations?? Thanks. Jim Eagle Naval Postgraduate School Monterey, CA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 19 02:21:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06376; Mon, 19 Feb 96 02:21:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14065; Mon, 19 Feb 96 02:15:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14059; Mon, 19 Feb 96 02:15:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0toSYY-00038TC; Mon, 19 Feb 96 02:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jim eagle Subject: Getting ^^ Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 05:21:45 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 401 Hello --- I'm using Pine and Pico on SPARC10 via remote dialin ... and when I try to select a block of text with CONTROL-^, a get 6 instead. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. Jim Eagle Naval Postgraduate School Monterey, CA 93943 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 19 03:26:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07276; Mon, 19 Feb 96 03:26:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14752; Mon, 19 Feb 96 03:21:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sangam.ncst.ernet.in by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14740; Mon, 19 Feb 96 03:21:02 -0800 Received: from mitra.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by sangam.ncst.ernet.in (8.6.12/8.6.6) with UUCP id QAA11139 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 16:53:39 +0530 Received: from maruti.gssl.ernet.in by mitra.gssl.ernet.in (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA03498; Mon, 19 Feb 96 15:32:01+050 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 14:34:44 +0530 (ist) From: "Ganesh R." To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine could not be ported on SCO Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-5627-824715316=:1995" Content-Id: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 402 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-5627-824715316=:1995 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: I could not link pine on SCO machine. It says libcrypt.a cannot be found. Man pages of 'crypt' says libcrypt.a is not distributed outside U.S. How can I overcome this ? - Ganesh (ganeshr@gssl.ernet.in) ---559023410-5627-824715316=:1995-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 19 03:39:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07527; Mon, 19 Feb 96 03:39:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08235; Mon, 19 Feb 96 03:35:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08229; Mon, 19 Feb 96 03:35:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0toTs4-00038RC; Mon, 19 Feb 96 03:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Getting ^^ Date: 19 Feb 1996 09:09:12 GMT Message-Id: <4g9eno$gve@fu-berlin.de> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 403 jim eagle writes: >when I try to select a block of text with CONTROL-^, a get 6 instead. Well, the ^^ means control-^ and the ^ is a shift-6. So this gives a control-shift-6. Did you press all the buttons? Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 19 05:51:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10792; Mon, 19 Feb 96 05:51:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16463; Mon, 19 Feb 96 05:35:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from x400gate.bnr.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16449; Mon, 19 Feb 96 05:35:01 -0800 X400-Received: by mta bnr.ca in /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 08:34:50 -0500 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 08:34:42 -0500 X400-Received: by /PRMD=bnr/ADMD=telecom.canada/C=ca/; Relayed; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 08:33:26 -0500 X400-Received: by /PRMD=bnr/ADMD=telecom.canada/C=ca/; Relayed; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 08:33:26 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 08:33:26 -0500 X400-Originator: /dd.id=1660747/g=peter/i=pw/s=whittaker/@bnr.ca X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Message-Id: To: hubert%cac.washington.edu@bnr.ca Cc: pine-info%cac.washington.edu@bnr.ca In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Threading news in Pine X-Sender: pww@bwdlh590 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 404 On Sun, 18 Feb 1996 hubert%cac.washington.edu@bcars735 wrote: > > >I don't see how you can dismiss Pine's behaviour when the same effect is > > >used by dedicated news reading programs. > > > > In the same way that I can dismiss anything that claims to be something > > it is not, no matter how widely implemented it might be. > > > > Subject sorting is not threading. > > Pine does not do threading and doesn't claim to do threading. > OrderSubject sorting is still useful, but it certainly isn't true > threading. Exactly my point. Had you missed the earlier articles in this dicussion wherein some users claimed that it "depended what you meant by threading"? Perhaps the comments of pmb1@mailer.york.ac.uk (Mike Brudenell) will refresh your memory: >Well, I guess it depends on what you mean by threading... But to my mind >the "$O" command sequence gives a good enough effect to be considered >threading. > >In particular, it groups articles sharing a common subject together, >arranged in date order. > >This is one perfectly valid meaning of "threading" as implemented by a >number of dedicated news reading programs. Admittedly others use the >fancier threading based on Xref: field values, and some even do both. > >I don't see how you can dismiss Pine's behaviour when the same effect is >used by dedicated news reading programs. which lead to my comments, above. pww From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 19 05:58:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10895; Mon, 19 Feb 96 05:58:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16585; Mon, 19 Feb 96 05:45:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16579; Mon, 19 Feb 96 05:45:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0toVt0-00038RC; Mon, 19 Feb 96 05:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: flavell@v2.ph.gla.ac.uk (Alan J. Flavell) Subject: Re: Pico question Message-Id: References: <4fqcfh$1l3@access1.digex.net> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 10:58:36 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 405 In article <4fqcfh$1l3@access1.digex.net>, rdadams@access1.digex.net (Dick Adams) writes: > > (If you're on a >> text-terminal, you're out of luck, but if that were the case, you >> probably wouldn't want to change the margin anyhow. :-) Not true. My recipients want to receive mail or usenet postings that conform to normal conventions - irrespective of what size window _I_ happen to use. >Pico appears to be aware of a "right margin" when you justify a >paragraph using CNTL-J. It's the right margin for justification >that I want to adjust. That was also my feeling, and if cntrl/J really does adapt to the window size then I don't see it (nor would I want it to). I'm still hoping we'll get an answer... (actually this isn't "justifying" in the technical sense, it's line wrapping, but let's not quibble about terminology, I think we know what's meant here). --- Alan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 19 06:07:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11152; Mon, 19 Feb 96 06:07:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16755; Mon, 19 Feb 96 06:01:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16749; Mon, 19 Feb 96 06:01:08 -0800 Received: from horn by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA04658 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Mon, 19 Feb 1996 15:01:07 +0100 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 14:55:42 +0100 (CEST) From: Nico van der Horn To: "Ganesh R." Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine could not be ported on SCO In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 406 On Mon, 19 Feb 1996, Ganesh R. wrote: > I could not link pine on SCO machine. It says libcrypt.a cannot be found. > > Man pages of 'crypt' says libcrypt.a is not distributed outside U.S. How > can I overcome this ? > > - Ganesh > (ganeshr@gssl.ernet.in) Get yourself Support Level Supplement lng225b from SCO. It can be found on ftp.sco.com or with your SCO reseller. This supplies you with the missing libraries and an documentation file. Total size +/- 35 kByte --- nico@vanderhorn.nl (N.J. van der Horn), VANDERHORN VOF, Oranjelaan 40, 3135 ZP Vlaardingen, The Netherlands, Tel +31104600411, Fax +31104342857 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 19 06:50:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11927; Mon, 19 Feb 96 06:50:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10616; Mon, 19 Feb 96 06:32:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10610; Mon, 19 Feb 96 06:31:56 -0800 Received: (from vs@localhost) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.1/8.7.1) id PAA20212; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 15:31:50 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 15:31:50 +0100 (MET) From: Vladimir Solnicky =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=28Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD=29?= To: The Pine Discussion List Subject: Re: Pine and Pico binaries for Silicon Graphics In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Acknowledge-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Organizace: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_(=DATIA)_AV_=C8R?= Transport-Options: /delivery /return Read-Receipt-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Receipt-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Return-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Read-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 407 On Mon, 19 Feb 1996, jim eagle wrote: > Hello --- Could I please get a steer to Pine and Pico binaries > for Silicon Graphics Indigo workstations?? Thanks. Try: ftp://ftp/pub/unix/unix-binary/SGI-indy/pine3.91.tar.gz | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 6884677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz ftp.utia.cas.cz http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-en.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 19 12:40:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21063; Mon, 19 Feb 96 12:40:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16494; Mon, 19 Feb 96 12:31:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16488; Mon, 19 Feb 96 12:31:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tocEL-00038RC; Mon, 19 Feb 96 12:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jim eagle Subject: Re: Getting ^^ In-Reply-To: <4g9eno$gve@fu-berlin.de> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <4g9eno$gve@fu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 16:15:54 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 408 On 19 Feb 1996, Sven Guckes wrote: > jim eagle writes: > >when I try to select a block of text with CONTROL-^, a get 6 instead. > > Well, the ^^ means control-^ and the ^ is a shift-6. > So this gives a control-shift-6. Did you press all the buttons? Yes --- when I press control-shift-6 (at the same time), I get 6 and do not mark the start of block of text. Jim Eagle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 19 13:28:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23004; Mon, 19 Feb 96 13:28:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23771; Mon, 19 Feb 96 13:21:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23765; Mon, 19 Feb 96 13:21:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tod0q-00038RC; Mon, 19 Feb 96 13:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gordon or Connie Marigold Subject: Help re Talk Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 11:45:49 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 409 Hello everyone, I'm afraid this may be a stupid question, but ... While I was in Pine, I got a message at the bottom of the screen asking for a Talk session. I had not done this before and did not know what to do. I now have instructions, but they say "from the unix prompt". Does this mean I need to make a quick note of the person who wants to talk to me and then quit pine and go into unix? Or what? TIA Connie (marigold@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 19 14:45:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24987; Mon, 19 Feb 96 14:45:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18542; Mon, 19 Feb 96 14:31:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18536; Mon, 19 Feb 96 14:31:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0toe6L-00038RC; Mon, 19 Feb 96 14:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dennisk@primenet.com (DennisK) Subject: Re: Getting ^^ Date: 19 Feb 1996 03:41:01 -0700 Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 410 In article , jim eagle did write: > Hello --- I'm using Pine and Pico on SPARC10 via remote dialin ... > and when I try to select a block of text with CONTROL-^, a get > 6 instead. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. > Jim Eagle > Naval Postgraduate School > Monterey, CA 93943 Been there... Hit [escape-escape-Shift-6-shift-6]. This info is in man pages in some versions of Pico and Pine. This will mark text, when ^^ won't. I don't know why it's ^^ sometimes works and sometimes you need the 'escape-esacpe,etc. If you find out more, please let me know. Dennis Kessler http://www.primenet.com/~dennisk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 19 15:23:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25952; Mon, 19 Feb 96 15:23:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25539; Mon, 19 Feb 96 15:16:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25533; Mon, 19 Feb 96 15:16:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0toenq-00038RC; Mon, 19 Feb 96 15:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Hasenstein Subject: Re: POP CLIENT Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 23:07:37 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3119C974.631E@gfm.cii.fc.ul.pt> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 411 On Thu, 8 Feb 1996, Augusto Brandao wrote: > can pine act as a pop3 client? YES: incoming-folders=a-folder {xyz.com}some-folder}, imap {imap.abc.edu}inbox, pop3 {pop.cdf.org/pop3}inbox, stupidvax {vax.loser.edu/imap2}INBOX -- ******************************************************************* email: Michael.Hasenstein@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (MIME welcome) homepage: http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~mha my private pc: benjy.csn.tu-chemnitz.de (Linux!!) or 134.109.104.2 ******************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 19 15:46:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26512; Mon, 19 Feb 96 15:46:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19593; Mon, 19 Feb 96 15:42:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19587; Mon, 19 Feb 96 15:41:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tof9T-00038RC; Mon, 19 Feb 96 15:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pjh@mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg) Subject: De-digestifying??? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 19:33:17 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 412 I subscribe to a mailing list available only in digest form. That means when one includes a message of value to me, I have to save alll the messages. Is there a way for pine to de-digestify a mail message? If not, is there a preprocessor that will? Thanks, Pete PS: Please reply by email -- I'm really eager to do this. Thx. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 19 17:01:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28754; Mon, 19 Feb 96 17:01:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27332; Mon, 19 Feb 96 16:57:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27326; Mon, 19 Feb 96 16:57:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0togM3-00038TC; Mon, 19 Feb 96 16:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roachd@access.cosmic.uga.edu Subject: Eudora Date: 19 Feb 1996 23:29:35 GMT Message-Id: <4gb14v$525@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 413 How do you setup eudora for use with Pine on a unix shell account-Lost at UGA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 19 17:13:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29700; Mon, 19 Feb 96 17:13:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21260; Mon, 19 Feb 96 17:07:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21254; Mon, 19 Feb 96 17:07:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0togVS-00038RC; Mon, 19 Feb 96 17:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roachd@access.cosmic.uga.edu Subject: Eudora Date: 19 Feb 1996 23:31:38 GMT Message-Id: <4gb18q$55k@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 414 Anyone with information on how to configure Eudora to work with pine on a Unix shell account, please help me...roachd@access.cosmic.uga.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 19 18:00:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01099; Mon, 19 Feb 96 18:00:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21969; Mon, 19 Feb 96 17:57:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21963; Mon, 19 Feb 96 17:57:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tohIv-00038TC; Mon, 19 Feb 96 17:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: feick@telerama.lm.com (David F.) Subject: Pine addressbook to HTML? Date: 13 Feb 1996 18:08:07 -0500 Message-Id: <4fr5kn$hrn@ganesh.lm.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 415 Is there a conversion program to easily convert pine's addressbook to Netscape's HTML based address book? Thanks, Dave From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 19 18:07:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01297; Mon, 19 Feb 96 18:07:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28577; Mon, 19 Feb 96 17:57:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28571; Mon, 19 Feb 96 17:57:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tohHx-00038RC; Mon, 19 Feb 96 17:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Luca Fini Subject: Posting and Sending as mail Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 09:48:15 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 416 I'm using pine for both e-mail and News browsing. When I reply a folloup to a News posting I'd like to also send it as mail to the person who posted the message. The only way I've found up to now is to post the folloup, then go to the send messages folder and forward the message. Is there any better way to do this ? Many thanks, -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ) Luca Fini Tel: +39 55 2752 307 ___ |\ Osservatorio Astrofisico di Arcetri Fax: +39 55 2752 292 / | | |\_ L.go E.Fermi, 5 /----------------------------------------- (___|___//___) 50125 Firenze / WWW: http://www.arcetri.astro.it/~lfini (_) (_) Italia / e-mail: lfini@arcetri.astro.it -----------------------------/-------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 19 18:11:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01415; Mon, 19 Feb 96 18:11:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22175; Mon, 19 Feb 96 18:07:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22169; Mon, 19 Feb 96 18:07:43 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05741; Mon, 19 Feb 96 18:07:43 -0800 Message-Id: <9602191941.AA15807@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 96 12:39:40 -0700 X-Sender: curt@magiclink.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: curt@magiclink.com (Curt Brimacomb) Subject: errors - help Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 18:07:32 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Subject: Resent-Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 417 Hi, We are getting an error when trying to forward mail using pine. It has been working for months, but now will occasionally rpduce this error. We are on HPUX. Error executing external command: Not enough space Internal error: Not enough space. TIA ************************************************************************** Curt Brimacomb Curt@magiclink.com System Manager Idaho Computer Services, Inc. 1-208-734-2245 Twin Falls, ID 83303-0446 1-208-733-9663 (fax) http://www.magiclink.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 19 18:28:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01903; Mon, 19 Feb 96 18:28:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29022; Mon, 19 Feb 96 18:22:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29016; Mon, 19 Feb 96 18:22:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tohi2-00038RC; Mon, 19 Feb 96 18:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: socio@shell.portal.com (Sociometrics Corp.) Subject: pine address book to netscape 2.0 (Win 3.x) Date: 19 Feb 1996 14:36:28 -0800 Message-Id: <4gau1c$8ua@jobe.shell.portal.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 418 What's the best way to get a Pine address book (Unix) ported over to a Netscape 2.0 mail utility (Windows 3.x)? Thanks! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 19 18:43:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02374; Mon, 19 Feb 96 18:43:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22633; Mon, 19 Feb 96 18:37:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22627; Mon, 19 Feb 96 18:37:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tohx1-00038RC; Mon, 19 Feb 96 18:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: knut@sdm.de (Knut Landmark) Subject: Re: !! What does Pine call the message? !! Date: 14 Feb 1996 10:32:13 GMT Message-Id: <4fsdnd$mup@sunti1.sdm.de> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 419 br00031@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu wrote: : In order to try to solve the problem of pine's print to ansii command not : working, when connected to Pine on the Suns via modem using Ckermit in : linux, I am reconfiguring the print command. This is option three in the : printer configuration. I would like print to execute a small script. : Something like : cp (message) ~/tmp/(message) : kermit -C "apc server, remote print (message), finish" : rm ~/tmp/(message) pine feeds the mail to stdin of the printer command. You might try something like this (I do not know anything about kermit): cat >/tmp/message.$$ kermit -C "apc server, remote print (message), finish" rm /tmp/message.$$ Hope that helps Yours, Knut Knut C. Landmark |s |d &|m | software design & management GmbH&Co. KG Projekt DATEV-INS | | | | Finanzinformationssysteme, Bereich FID | | | | Thomas-Dehler-Str. 27, 81737 Muenchen Knut.Landmark@sdm.de | | | | Tel: +49 89 63812-448(0) Fax: -490 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 19 19:25:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03504; Mon, 19 Feb 96 19:25:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29867; Mon, 19 Feb 96 19:17:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29861; Mon, 19 Feb 96 19:17:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0toiWR-00038TC; Mon, 19 Feb 96 19:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stefan Lucks Subject: Re: specifying a directory to export to? Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 03:32:33 +0100 Message-Id: References: <3rkc5f$gs5@lynx.unm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 420 On Tue, 13 Jun 1995, Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq wrote: > You can export (or save) to any directory: just enter your filename > complete with the path (relative if below $HOME, absolute otherwise)! > On 13 Jun 1995, Chris P. Sharp wrote: > > I was wondering if there's a way to export a message to any directory > > specified when in Pine. It seems to only export to the home directory. > > Thanks for any info. There is a flag ("use-current-dir") which makes pine export a message into the *current* directory instead of the home directory. Of course you can give pine a (absolute or relative) path, as when saving in the home directory. I like to have one "default" directory for files exported from usenet news and emails. Because I want to run pine from any directory, I use the following two-line shell script: cd ~/post pine I hope this helps! Stefan Lucks Inst. f. NAM, Lotzestrasse 16-18, 37083 Goettingen, Germany e-mail: lucks@namu01.gwdg.de ----- Wer einem Computer Unsinn erzaehlt, muss immer damit rechnen. ----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 19 19:35:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03674; Mon, 19 Feb 96 19:35:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23358; Mon, 19 Feb 96 19:27:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23352; Mon, 19 Feb 96 19:27:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0toiev-00038RC; Mon, 19 Feb 96 19:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: Getting ^^ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 00:24:32 GMT Message-Id: <4gb494$dp6@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 421 jim eagle wrote: >Hello --- I'm using Pine and Pico on SPARC10 via remote dialin ... >and when I try to select a block of text with CONTROL-^, a get >6 instead. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. Try using ESC-ESC-^ instead of CTRL-^. ----- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 voice: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~rbasu/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 19 22:54:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08044; Mon, 19 Feb 96 22:54:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02834; Mon, 19 Feb 96 22:52:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dutw400.wbmt.tudelft.nl by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02828; Mon, 19 Feb 96 22:52:34 -0800 Received: from dutw38.wbmt.tudelft.nl by dutw400.wbmt.tudelft.nl with SMTP id AA08415 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Tue, 20 Feb 1996 07:56:11 +0100 Received: from wb321291 (wb321291.wbmt.tudelft.nl) by dutw38.WbMT.TUDelft.nl (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19399; Tue, 20 Feb 96 07:52:21 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 07:48:15 -0800 (PST) From: "T.I.Hellesoy" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: De-digestifying??? (fwd) X-Sender: hellesoy@dutw38.wbmt.tudelft.nl Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 422 On Mon, 19 Feb 1996, Pete Holsberg wrote: >I subscribe to a mailing list available only in digest >form. That means when one includes a message of value to >me, I have to save alll the messages. > >Is there a way for pine to de-digestify the message? > -On the same note, I sometimes get mails with large attached files. After having exported the attached file, I want to keep the message, but delete the attached file. Possible? Thanks, Thor Ivar Hellesoy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 20 00:48:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10178; Tue, 20 Feb 96 00:48:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04164; Tue, 20 Feb 96 00:43:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04158; Tue, 20 Feb 96 00:43:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tonbe-00038RC; Tue, 20 Feb 96 00:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: unclebob@ripco.com (Uncle Bob) Subject: Re: Help re Talk Date: 20 Feb 1996 05:08:20 GMT Message-Id: <4gbl04$6fb@gail.ripco.com> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 423 Gordon or Connie Marigold (marigold@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote: : Hello everyone, : I'm afraid this may be a stupid question, but ... While I was in : Pine, I got a message at the bottom of the screen asking for a Talk : session. I had not done this before and did not know what to do. I now : have instructions, but they say "from the unix prompt". Does this mean I : need to make a quick note of the person who wants to talk to me and then : quit pine and go into unix? Or what? : TIA : Connie (marigold@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu) Connie, If you want to engage in the "talk" session, you need to quit Pine and go to your shell prompt. Then, perform the "talk soandso@blah.blah.com" command to connect with the person calling you. Yes, jot down the address because you might forget it backing out. -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Uncle Bob..............unclebob@ripco.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 20 01:21:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11013; Tue, 20 Feb 96 01:21:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04588; Tue, 20 Feb 96 01:17:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04582; Tue, 20 Feb 96 01:16:57 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 20 Feb 1996 09:12:21 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA06723; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 09:13:32 GMT Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 09:13:31 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: jim eagle Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Getting ^^ In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 424 I recall seeing the original questions, but don't remember if you said what rerminal emulator and type of computer you were using. There was certainly a problem with versions of NCSA Telnet on Macs, for example, which exhibited exactly the sort of problem you describe. In particular you had to install the "Fixed Controls" keyboard resoruce (drag it onto the System Folder's icon) and then select it in the "Keyboard" control panel. This was to let the Mac generate some keystrokes (such as ^^) that it couldn't under the usual keyboard mapping. The latest (and last!) version of NCSA Telnet for Mac (2.7b5, if I recall correctly) handles such keystrokes much better, without the need for the KCHR resource. (This is going off the release notes: I still use a slightly modified resource because of some other requirementes I have, so cannot say for certain). If you are using NCSA Telnet on a Mac, especially a version before 2.7b, you should look at either installing the keyboard resource or (better) upgrading to the latest and last Telnet. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 19 Feb 1996, jim eagle wrote: > > On 19 Feb 1996, Sven Guckes wrote: > > > jim eagle writes: > > >when I try to select a block of text with CONTROL-^, a get 6 instead. > > > > Well, the ^^ means control-^ and the ^ is a shift-6. > > So this gives a control-shift-6. Did you press all the buttons? > > Yes --- when I press control-shift-6 (at the same time), I get 6 > and do not mark the start of block of text. > Jim Eagle > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 20 02:27:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12473; Tue, 20 Feb 96 02:27:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05368; Tue, 20 Feb 96 02:18:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05351; Tue, 20 Feb 96 02:18:34 -0800 Received: (from vs@localhost) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.1/8.7.1) id LAA26734; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 11:18:00 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 11:18:00 +0100 (MET) From: Vladimir Solnicky =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=28Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD=29?= To: Pete Holsberg Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: De-digestifying??? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Organizace: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_(=DATIA)_AV_=C8R?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 425 On Mon, 19 Feb 1996, Pete Holsberg wrote: > Is there a way for pine to de-digestify a mail message? If > not, is there a preprocessor that will? Maybe formail from the procmail package could solve your problem. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 6884677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz ftp.utia.cas.cz http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-en.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 20 04:20:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15288; Tue, 20 Feb 96 04:20:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29877; Tue, 20 Feb 96 04:08:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29871; Tue, 20 Feb 96 04:08:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0toqqZ-00038RC; Tue, 20 Feb 96 04:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nevin Kapur Subject: Re: Help re Talk In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 17:50:03 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 426 On Mon, 19 Feb 1996, Gordon or Connie Marigold wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm afraid this may be a stupid question, but ... While I was in > Pine, I got a message at the bottom of the screen asking for a Talk > session. I had not done this before and did not know what to do. I now > have instructions, but they say "from the unix prompt". Does this mean I > need to make a quick note of the person who wants to talk to me and then > quit pine and go into unix? Or what? > You can suspend pine (Ctrl Z). This will take you to your unix shell from where you can talk. After finishing, type fg. This will take you back to exactly where you were when you suspended pine. You will first have to enable-suspend by going into Setup (Configure). There is an option in the feature list. Nevin. *----------------------------------------------------------------------------* NEVIN KAPUR | Electrical Engineering | Indian Institute of Technology, Bombay INTERNET http://ee.iitb.ernet.in/~nevin , nevin@ee.iitb.ernet.in SNAILMAIL C/20 Garib Society,5th NS Road,JVPD Scheme Bombay,400 049.INDIA PHONE 628 1091, 624 0272 *----------------------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 20 05:06:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16538; Tue, 20 Feb 96 05:06:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00528; Tue, 20 Feb 96 04:58:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00522; Tue, 20 Feb 96 04:58:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0torbq-00038VC; Tue, 20 Feb 96 04:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jim eagle Subject: Re: Getting ^^ In-Reply-To: <4gb494$dp6@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <4gb494$dp6@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 06:45:54 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 427 > > >Hello --- I'm using Pine and Pico on SPARC10 via remote dialin ... > >and when I try to select a block of text with CONTROL-^, a get > >6 instead. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. > > Try using ESC-ESC-^ instead of CTRL-^. > ----- esc-esc-^ works! Thank you. Jim Eagle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 20 05:12:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16664; Tue, 20 Feb 96 05:12:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07433; Tue, 20 Feb 96 04:58:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07427; Tue, 20 Feb 96 04:58:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0torbp-00038TC; Tue, 20 Feb 96 04:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jim eagle Subject: Re: Getting ^^ In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 06:43:02 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 428 > > Hello --- I'm using Pine and Pico on SPARC10 via remote dialin ... > > and when I try to select a block of text with CONTROL-^, a get > > 6 instead. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. > Been there... > > Hit [escape-escape-Shift-6-shift-6]. This info is in man pages in some > versions of Pico and Pine. This will mark text, when ^^ won't. > > I don't know why it's ^^ sometimes works and sometimes you need the > 'escape-esacpe,etc. If you find out more, please let me know. > [escape-escape-shift-6-shift-6] works great! Thanks. Jim Eagle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 20 06:10:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18116; Tue, 20 Feb 96 06:10:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08141; Tue, 20 Feb 96 05:58:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08135; Tue, 20 Feb 96 05:58:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tosZP-00038RC; Tue, 20 Feb 96 05:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: moshel@tasu60.nsc.com (Moshe Linzer) Subject: sort by date in pcpine Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 13:52:41 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 429 In PC Pine, when I try to sort the inbox by Date, it takes forever! I am working with a Sun mail server and IMAP. Other sort criteria are much faster, and on the unix version there is no difference. Anyone have the same experience? I have about 120 messages in my inbox. Thanks, Moshe -- \\|// (O-O) ---------------------------------------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo------ Moshe Linzer Phone: (972) 9-594-247 Unix Systems Manager Fax: (972) 9-558-322 National Semiconductor, Israel E-mail: moshel@taux01.nsc.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 20 10:16:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27862; Tue, 20 Feb 96 10:16:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06454; Tue, 20 Feb 96 10:04:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06448; Tue, 20 Feb 96 10:04:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0towPQ-00038RC; Tue, 20 Feb 96 10:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aj718@lafn.org (charles meyer) Subject: DOWNLOAD BLUES!!! Message-Id: <1996Feb18.192538.7458@lafn.org> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 19:25:38 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 430 Hi there. I would be very appreciative if anyone could help with my problem. I am on the LA Freenet which does not support MIME code in its e-mail. I received a large file encoded in MIME so I am unable to de-code it. The sender can't re-send it in ASCII. I tried downloading it by capturing the text but that didn't work. I tried using Kermit, X,Y & Z-Modem but those didn't work either. I aksed the moderator of the LA Freenet & he couldn't help. The file was sent using Eudora but I can't use Eudora on the LA Freenet. Can anyone offer helpful suggestions? This file consumes 63% of my mailbox just sitting there so I'd like to be able to download it to a floppy at least. Thank you. ### From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 20 11:00:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00296; Tue, 20 Feb 96 11:00:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14773; Tue, 20 Feb 96 10:44:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14767; Tue, 20 Feb 96 10:44:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0towyN-00038RC; Tue, 20 Feb 96 10:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: donny@ms1.hinet.net (Donny Lee) Subject: Pico config? Date: 20 Feb 1996 15:10:02 GMT Message-Id: <4gco8a$1rq@netnews.hinet.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 431 Hello, I'm new using pine and pico, and tring to find a newsgroup talking about pico, but no luck. Could somebody point me a place to go? Or I can have the question, as title, here? Thanks in advance. // Donny --- þ Jabber v1.2 þ This space for lease, contact me at donny@ms1.hinet.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 20 11:43:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02308; Tue, 20 Feb 96 11:43:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08996; Tue, 20 Feb 96 11:23:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from helen.bush.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08990; Tue, 20 Feb 96 11:23:29 -0800 Received: by helen.bush.edu (5.65/UW-NDC Revision: 2.26 ) id AA25461; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 11:35:09 -0800 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 11:35:08 -0800 (PST) From: Jill Ashman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug (ID 9T030): (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-2003711571-824844245=:24748" Content-Id: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 432 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-2003711571-824844245=:24748 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 11:24:05 -0800 (PST) From: Jill Ashman To: Pine Developers Subject: Bug (ID 9T030): Hi my name is Jill I use Pine at work (UW employee) on a PC, no problems. I am currently getting pine e-mail service at home through my son's school remote server. For some reason I am unable to print my e-mail messages using the Y command. I get the message "attached to ansi"( or whatever) and then press Y again, all it does is scroll through part of the e-mail message but doesn't print. I have a Mac Performa and an Apple Stylewriter 2400. Do I need to reconfigure something in order to print? Thanks. Jill --0-2003711571-824844245=:24748 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = jilla, full = Jill Ashman home = /users/projects/jilla home_dir= /users/projects/jilla hostname= helen.bush.edu localdom= bush.edu userdom= helen.bush.edu maildom= helen.bush.edu cur_cntxt= mail/[] cur_fldr= read-mail-jan-1996 actual mbox= /users/projects/jilla/mail/read-mail-jan-1996 msgmap: tot=2, cur=2, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival actual inbox= /usr/spool/mail/jilla inbox map: tot=2, cur=2, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival term type=vt100, ttyname=/dev/ttyp1, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Jill Ashman user-id : jilla user-domain : helen.bush.edu nntp-server : news.bush.edu inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : mail/[] news-collections : *{news.bush.edu/nntp}[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail read-message-folder : read-mail signature-file : /users/projects/jilla/.signature address-book : /users/projects/jilla/.addressbook feature-list : auto-move-read-msgs : enable-aggregate-command-set saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 96.2 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/users/projects/jilla/.pinerc) ======= last-time-prune-ques : 96.2 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= user-domain : helen.bush.edu nntp-server : news.bush.edu inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : mail/[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail read-message-folder : read-mail signature-file : ~/.signature address-book : ~/.addressbook feature-list : auto-move-read-msgs : enable-aggregate-command-set saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd no-enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface no-signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys --0-2003711571-824844245=:24748-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 20 12:03:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03472; Tue, 20 Feb 96 12:03:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10062; Tue, 20 Feb 96 11:54:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10056; Tue, 20 Feb 96 11:54:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0toy7I-00038TC; Tue, 20 Feb 96 11:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: abub@ccbc.pgh.net (Martin Lee Flaherty) Subject: pine's slepp checker Date: 20 Feb 1996 17:27:18 GMT Message-Id: <4gd09n$f9v@dropit.pgh.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 433 -- ============================================================================= = = = I know I am, but what are you? = = = = Marty (aka Abub) = = = ============================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 20 12:28:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04889; Tue, 20 Feb 96 12:28:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10617; Tue, 20 Feb 96 12:15:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.bridgeway.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10611; Tue, 20 Feb 96 12:15:20 -0800 Received: (from andrew@localhost) by server.bridgeway.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA02957; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 12:18:32 -0800 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 12:18:31 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Le To: Jill Ashman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Bug (ID 9T030): (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 434 On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, Jill Ashman wrote: > > Hi my name is Jill > I use Pine at work (UW employee) on a PC, no problems. > I am currently getting pine e-mail service at home through my son's school > remote server. > For some reason I am unable to print my e-mail messages using the > Y command. I get the message "attached to ansi"( or whatever) and then > press Y again, all it does is scroll through part of the e-mail message > but doesn't print. > I have a Mac Performa and an Apple Stylewriter 2400. > Do I need to reconfigure something in order to print? > Thanks. > Jill Hi Jill, How are you connecting your Mac at home to your son's server? via PPP and running Telnet as a client? If so, then you need the latest version of Telnet in order to "print to ANSI" to work... Telnet 2.5 does not work for local printing.... You need to get Telnet 2.6 (which I am using) for Macintosh in order to print your e-mail on your Mac... Good luck... l __(__)__ **************oO0-- @ @ --0Oo*************************** Andrew Le [] support@bridgway.com Bridgeway Corp. \____/ (206) 881-4270 Bridging the Gap in Network Mgt. (206) 861-1774 fax *********************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 20 13:33:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08663; Tue, 20 Feb 96 13:33:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18533; Tue, 20 Feb 96 12:54:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from spider.cs.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18527; Tue, 20 Feb 96 12:54:08 -0800 Received: (certain@localhost) by spider.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) id MAA16171; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 12:53:10 -0800 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 12:53:09 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Certain To: ctorlins@crl.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine vs. Elm Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 435 I started using pine when I got to UW because it was supported on all of the platforms we had available, and found it to be able to do almost everything that I liked about elm. I have a couple of things that I wasn't able to figure out how to do: 1) Search entire messages for a string. The [W]hereis command looks for strings in headers, but I couldn't figure out how to get it to search the entire message. 2) Send encrypted mail. Not a regular occurrance, but it has come in handy. Neither of things things are a big enough deal to get me to go back to elm. There are, however, a few annoying things which are about to cause me to go back to elm if I can't get them resolved. 1) When using IMAP to get my mail off of another machine, pine crashes regularly (like sometimes every five minutes - other times every few days), saying that my inbox was closed due to an access error. I sent in a bug report and got no reply (maybe that's standard). 2) When I changed to reading just from a local inbox file, it pauses for about 20 seconds each time it wants to sync the file. I never noticed this pause with elm. 3) When I get new mail, and it displays the "New mail!" message at the bottom of the screen, it pauses again for about 5 seconds. Not life-threatening, but annoying enough to bother me. Probably there's a config option for this one. In fairness, there are a couple of things that I like better in pine. 1) The postpone message is better in that it remembers who you were sending to and you can have several postponed messages; however, there's no way to forget about a postponed message without resuming it and then cancelling it. 2) The entering of To: and Cc: addresses is better in that it's easier to go back and change them; however, it's also a pain because the Ctrl-K (kill to end of line in emacs) deletes the whole line. There's nothing worse than sort of following the semantics of some other program. It's clearly much more configurable than elm; however, I'd rather have it be fast and reliable on the things which are important to me than able to do 50 million things that I don't care about. __________________Andrew_Certain_(certain@cs.washington.edu)___________________ Usenet is like Tetris for people who still remember how to read. -- Joshua Heller From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 20 13:48:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09242; Tue, 20 Feb 96 13:48:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19844; Tue, 20 Feb 96 13:39:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19838; Tue, 20 Feb 96 13:39:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tozjU-00038RC; Tue, 20 Feb 96 13:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pegboy@gti.net (ar m God) Subject: Re: read folders from current directory? Date: 20 Feb 1996 20:14:58 GMT Message-Id: <4gda42$7kb@gti.gti.net> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 436 Do you mean that you want to read a file in something that runs off the $home dir? I did this (If this is what you want) In my $home, I have a subdirectory called 'text' And within that dir, a file named 'flame' When I composed a message, I used ^R and when prompted for the file name, I entered text/flame... Hope this helps, but then again I may be way off base..*l* : I had a user ask me if he could read/write to the folders in : the directory where he started pine, like elm does (never tired it?). : He apparently has many folders orgainized the way elm makes you : do things. : We're running Solaris 2.3, if that helps. : please respond to my email address if you can (as well as post), : thanks, : pier@math.uh.edu : ******************************************************************************** : "The maddest of all is seeing things as they are, rather than as they should be" : --Don Quixote : ******************************************************************************** : Todd Holloway University of Houston : Sr. Systems Administrator Department of Mathematics : pier@math.uh.edu 4800 Calhoun Rd. : (713) 743-3466 Houston, TX 77204-3476 : Beeper: (713) 563-1031 :
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: ******************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 20 13:52:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09462; Tue, 20 Feb 96 13:52:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13127; Tue, 20 Feb 96 13:39:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13121; Tue, 20 Feb 96 13:39:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tozkN-00038TC; Tue, 20 Feb 96 13:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pegboy@gti.net (ar m God) Subject: Re: read folders from current directory? Date: 20 Feb 1996 20:18:47 GMT Message-Id: <4gdab7$7kb@gti.gti.net> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 437 I'm sorry, you can also enable the 'use-current-directory' feature in the Pine S)etup, C)onfig..... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 20 14:53:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12275; Tue, 20 Feb 96 14:53:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21498; Tue, 20 Feb 96 14:39:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21492; Tue, 20 Feb 96 14:39:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tp0fV-00038RC; Tue, 20 Feb 96 14:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mihai T. LAZARESCU" Subject: Bug (ID 3F1E4): while accessing POP3 VMS INBOX Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 19:02:02 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1920219832-205902467-824842421=:29258" Content-Id: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 438 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1920219832-205902467-824842421=:29258 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: I encountered a tough opposition when trying to connect from UNIX pine to a VMS INBOX. Here are the facts. If you have ANY clue please let me know; I've ran out of ideas... I have pine 3.91 installed under UNIX (SunOS 4.1.3) and works great! The trouble comes when one of my colleagues tries opening its VMS INBOX using pine under UNIX and VMS POP3 (i.e. opening the folder: {polclu/pop3}INBOX). Invariably pine fails for him with: Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". after connecting to VMS POP3 daemon. The POP3 daemon log looks like: $ type POP3_SERVER.LOG;9 MultiNet POP3_server Flags = 0, Version = V3.4 s: +OK 5 messages in folder NEWMAIL (V3.4) c: STAT s: +OK 5 32835 recv_cmd: Socket closed by peer SARTORI job terminated at 20-FEB-1996 18:05:16.26 $ There is no error log on the UNIX side except the message above. The strange part is that I can log into *my* VMS INBOX using exactly the same binaries (pine, pop3, UNIX and VMS machines, etc.). The only difference that I've discovered is that the disks on which our VMS accounts are located are different. I've already checked the VMS permissions and are the same. There is no difference not even in VMS mail configuration. Please let me know if you have any idea. I don't know where to continue digging. Many thanks, Mihai Lazarescu -- Mihai Teodor LAZARESCU Ph.D. student Voice: + 39 (0)11 564 5128 | Polytechnic of Turin Fax : + 39 (0)11 564 4134 | Electronics & Communic. Department email: lazarescu@polito.it | Corso Duca degli Abruzzi, 24 http://ccmserv.polito.it/mihai/ | 10129 TORINO, ITALY --1920219832-205902467-824842421=:29258 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = mihai, full = Mihai T. LAZARESCU home = /utenti/stud/mihai home_dir= /utenti/stud/mihai hostname= ccmserv.polito.it localdom= polito.it userdom= ccmserv.polito.it maildom= ccmserv.polito.it cur_cntxt= [] cur_fldr= Pine actual mbox= *{galileo.polito.it./nntp}comp.mail.pine msgmap: tot=0, cur=0, del=137, hid=0, exld=137, slct=0, sort=Arrival actual inbox= /utenti/stud/mihai/In-Mail/inbox inbox map: tot=15, cur=15, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival term type=xterm, ttyname=/dev/ttyp1, size=40x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Mihai T. LAZARESCU user-id : mihai user-domain : ccmserv.polito.it smtp-server : "" nntp-server : news.polito.it. inbox-path : In-Mail/inbox incoming-folders : IEEE *{galileo.polito.it./nntp}comp.org.ieee : Lists In-Mail/lists : Rom-Unix In-Mail/rom-unix : Romanians In-Mail/romanians : S.C.R. *{galileo.polito.it./nntp}soc.culture.romanian : Pine *{galileo.polito.it./nntp}comp.mail.pine : GNU *{galileo.polito.it./nntp}gnu.announce : MS-DOS *{galileo.polito.it./nntp}comp.archives.msdos.announce : NEWS *{galileo.polito.it./nntp}news.announce.important : ASTRO *{galileo.polito.it./nntp}alt.astrology folder-collections : Mail Mail/[] : In-Mail In-Mail/[] : POLCLU {polclu/pop3}/[] news-collections : "News" *{news.polito.it./nntp}[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook feature-list : old-growth : enable-mail-check-cue : include-attachments-in-reply : include-text-in-reply : news-read-in-newsrc-order : save-will-advance : signature-at-bottom : enable-incoming-folders : auto-open-next-unread : select-without-confirm : user-lookup-even-if-domain-mismatch : news-approximates-new-status : show-selected-in-boldface : save-will-quote-leading-froms : no-quit-without-confirm : no-enable-suspend : delete-skips-deleted : enable-alternate-editor-implicitly initial-keystroke-li : i default-composer-hdr : Fcc : Subject : Bcc : To saved-msg-name-rule : last-folder-used fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last character-set : ISO-8859-1 editor : vi image-viewer : xv use-only-domain-name : No printer : a2ps -nd -nL -ns -nu -1 -p | lpr personal-print-comma : a2ps -nd -nL -ns -nu -1 -p | lpr standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 96.2 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/utenti/stud/mihai/.pinerc) ======= personal-name : Mihai T. LAZARESCU user-domain : ccmserv.polito.it smtp-server : "" nntp-server : news.polito.it. inbox-path : In-Mail/inbox incoming-folders : IEEE *{galileo.polito.it./nntp}comp.org.ieee : Lists In-Mail/lists : Rom-Unix In-Mail/rom-unix : Romanians In-Mail/romanians : S.C.R. *{galileo.polito.it./nntp}soc.culture.romanian : Pine *{galileo.polito.it./nntp}comp.mail.pine : GNU *{galileo.polito.it./nntp}gnu.announce : MS-DOS *{galileo.polito.it./nntp}comp.archives.msdos.announce : NEWS *{galileo.polito.it./nntp}news.announce.important : ASTRO *{galileo.polito.it./nntp}alt.astrology folder-collections : Mail Mail/[] : In-Mail In-Mail/[] : POLCLU {polclu/pop3}/[] news-collections : "News" *{news.polito.it./nntp}[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs address-book : .addressbook feature-list : old-growth : enable-mail-check-cue : include-attachments-in-reply : include-text-in-reply : news-read-in-newsrc-order : save-will-advance : signature-at-bottom : enable-incoming-folders : auto-open-next-unread : select-without-confirm : user-lookup-even-if-domain-mismatch : news-approximates-new-status : show-selected-in-boldface : save-will-quote-leading-froms : no-quit-without-confirm : no-enable-suspend : delete-skips-deleted : enable-alternate-editor-implicitly initial-keystroke-li : i default-composer-hdr : Fcc : Subject : Bcc : To saved-msg-name-rule : last-folder-used fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival character-set : ISO-8859-1 editor : vi image-viewer : xv use-only-domain-name : No printer : a2ps -nd -nL -ns -nu -1 -p | lpr personal-print-comma : a2ps -nd -nL -ns -nu -1 -p | lpr last-time-prune-ques : 96.2 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd enable-aggregate-command-set enable-alternate-editor-cmd enable-alternate-editor-implicitly enable-bounce-cmd enable-flag-cmd enable-full-header-cmd enable-incoming-folders enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply include-text-in-reply news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete save-will-advance select-without-confirm show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys --1920219832-205902467-824842421=:29258-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 20 15:57:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15571; Tue, 20 Feb 96 15:57:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24093; Tue, 20 Feb 96 15:50:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24087; Tue, 20 Feb 96 15:50:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tp1nF-00038RC; Tue, 20 Feb 96 15:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gordon or Connie Marigold Subject: Thanks re help with TALK Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 14:16:13 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 439 Thanks to all of you who responded, privately and publicly. Apparently a lot of us have learned something today that we did not know yesterday. I know I have learned so many tips here--this is just another example. Many of you are so generous with your time and expertise. I'm very grateful. Connie From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 20 16:13:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16268; Tue, 20 Feb 96 16:13:59 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17834; Tue, 20 Feb 96 16:05:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17809; Tue, 20 Feb 96 16:05:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tp1z2-00038RC; Tue, 20 Feb 96 16:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pelak@bloodgood.ecn.purdue.edu (Randell Pelak) Subject: addressbook(s?) Date: 20 Feb 1996 01:26:58 GMT Message-Id: <4gb812$qs4@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 440 I am not sure toomany of you will even see this but here goes. I have read a bunch of stuff caiming great multiple address books. They all seem to say that their is an option on the features list to enable it. I couldn't find one. All I could find is the expanded thing. I can have a personal and a global but I can't make the gloabl. I want to have a personal, a work, and one for people from certian places, things like that. Anyone with any ideas please mail them to me. I don't read this grooup too often and even when I do I don't usually get everything that is posted. Thanks a bunch pelak@ecn.purdue.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 20 16:24:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16842; Tue, 20 Feb 96 16:24:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24932; Tue, 20 Feb 96 16:15:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24924; Tue, 20 Feb 96 16:15:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tp29f-00038RC; Tue, 20 Feb 96 16:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rasheed Baqai Subject: Suspending Pine Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 13:39:46 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 441 On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, Nevin Kapur wrote: > You can suspend pine (Ctrl Z). This will take you to your unix shell from > where you can talk. After finishing, type fg. This will take you back to > exactly where you were when you suspended pine. > > You will first have to enable-suspend by going into Setup (Configure). > There is an option in the feature list. > > Nevin. Does this work with every version of Pine? What does fg stand for? Rasheed --- R a B s a rbaqai@uci.edu h q http://www.ics.uci.edu/~rbaqai/ e a University of California, Irvine-Information & Computer Science e i d From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 20 17:27:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20134; Tue, 20 Feb 96 17:27:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20229; Tue, 20 Feb 96 17:20:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20223; Tue, 20 Feb 96 17:20:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tp3CB-00038RC; Tue, 20 Feb 96 17:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joseph and Figen Tek-Puentes Subject: READ ONLY AGAIN HELP!! Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 00:12:52 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 442 Hello, my inbox of email is stuck on READ ONLY. Tell me if this is what is doing this. Sometimes when I open pine and then press L for the folders it seems to get Hung-up. It just sits there for the longest time sometimes 5 minutes plus. I dance around the key board and nothing happens so I reach over to my modem and turn it off and then back on again and redial to get back on line. Is this why I get stuck in READ ONLY when I come back online? If so how do I fix it I can't edit my INBOX and it is getting pretty full. HELP thanks for your help, Joseph From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 20 18:24:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21789; Tue, 20 Feb 96 18:24:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28295; Tue, 20 Feb 96 18:20:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28289; Tue, 20 Feb 96 18:20:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tp48l-00038TC; Tue, 20 Feb 96 18:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nellie Shearon Subject: Re: Help re Talk Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:15:37 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 443 That is the only way I have found to do it, Connie. Tom Shearon On Mon, 19 Feb 1996, Gordon or Connie Marigold wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm afraid this may be a stupid question, but ... While I was in > Pine, I got a message at the bottom of the screen asking for a Talk > session. I had not done this before and did not know what to do. I now > have instructions, but they say "from the unix prompt". Does this mean I > need to make a quick note of the person who wants to talk to me and then > quit pine and go into unix? Or what? > > TIA > > Connie (marigold@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu) > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 20 20:39:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25575; Tue, 20 Feb 96 20:39:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00353; Tue, 20 Feb 96 20:35:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from autarch.acsu.buffalo.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00345; Tue, 20 Feb 96 20:35:05 -0800 Received: (from br@localhost) by autarch.acsu.buffalo.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id XAA17945; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 23:34:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 23:34:56 -0500 (EST) From: Pulp Fiction To: Computer Consultant Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: mail forward In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Return-Receipt: br@acsu.buffalo.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 444 Hi how do i automatically forward my mail from one unix account to another. SAy from my school unix account to my compuserve account. I have a vacation program which notifies people of my change of email address but i would likle some method of forwarding the mail automatically. Can i do this within pine or do i have to use a unix script. Thanks in advance Love, Peace & Respect Jaz ........ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 20 21:47:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27375; Tue, 20 Feb 96 21:47:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24337; Tue, 20 Feb 96 21:40:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24331; Tue, 20 Feb 96 21:40:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tp7Ee-00038RC; Tue, 20 Feb 96 21:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Anita Subject: Re: sending mail in one keypress Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 20:17:18 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 445 On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, Ray Vermey wrote: > Hello there, > > My question is as follows: > > when I compose a new message i edit it and after leaving the editor I press > ^X. Then Pine asks me if I want to send the message. Is there a way to skip > this question and send the mail right away ??? > > Thanx > > Ray > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> Go into the confing menu and put an "X" by the box that says something like, "Send without confirmation." -Eddie/Anita ^ astecker@uci.edu O _| |_ \ / \ / - ---| |--- - / | | \ | | \_____/ | | | | | | \_______________________/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 01:51:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04050; Wed, 21 Feb 96 01:51:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27748; Wed, 21 Feb 96 01:39:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27728; Wed, 21 Feb 96 01:39:35 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:37:29 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA02701; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:38:03 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:38:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: ar m God Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: read folders from current directory? In-Reply-To: <4gdab7$7kb@gti.gti.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 446 You can also put a "./" at the start of the filename, which will then read it from the current directory. (I think other relative path features (.., etc) should work too.) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 20 Feb 1996, ar m God wrote: > > I'm sorry, you can also enable the 'use-current-directory' > feature in the Pine S)etup, C)onfig..... > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 02:02:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04697; Wed, 21 Feb 96 02:02:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27919; Wed, 21 Feb 96 01:54:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27913; Wed, 21 Feb 96 01:54:18 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:50:04 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA05177; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:50:40 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:50:40 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Andrew Certain Cc: ctorlins@crl.com, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine vs. Elm In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 447 On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, Andrew Certain wrote: > 1) Search entire messages for a string. The [W]hereis command looks for > strings in headers, but I couldn't figure out how to get it to search the > entire message. Use the "Select" command instead. You may need to enable this first in the Setup Configuration screen (the "enable-aggregate-command-set" feature). Then, in the Message Index, type... ; ... Select messages whose T ... Text A ... of the entire message string ... contains this string Having selected some messages in this way you can then apply a command to the whole set (A then command), or zoom the index to just list the selected messages (Z ... another Z will unzoom it). The select command provides a good deal of flexibility in selecting messages by various criteria including, if you use ";" when you already have a set of messages selected, to Broaden a search (OR criteria together) or Narrow it (AND them together). > 2) Send encrypted mail. Not a regular occurrance, but it has come in handy. This is possible in Pine 3.91 by setting up the alternate editor command to invoke a shell script/program you write to process (encrypt) the data. You then compose your message, followed by the "Alternate Editor" command to pipe the message through your script. This has been explained in detail at various times... try checking the Pine Information Centre: http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/ Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 02:28:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05756; Wed, 21 Feb 96 02:28:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28281; Wed, 21 Feb 96 02:14:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28275; Wed, 21 Feb 96 02:14:13 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 21 Feb 1996 10:08:35 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA10361; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 10:09:28 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 10:09:28 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Rasheed Baqai Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Suspending Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 448 "fg" stands for "foreground". It is not a Pine command (you've suspended -- left -- Pine, remember) but a command to the UNIX shell (command interpreter) you are using. Most of the more modern UNIX shells allow programs to be suspended (frozen) or even suspended then moved to carry on running in the background. The commands typically used to do this are: ^Z ...suspend current process fg ...resume suspended process, bringing it to the foreground again bg ...put suspended process into the background and start it running again Note that not ALL shells support this (for example the commonly used Bourne shell (sh) doesn't), and some more esoteric shells may use different commands. To find out more see the man page for the shell you are using. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, Rasheed Baqai wrote: > On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, Nevin Kapur wrote: > > > You can suspend pine (Ctrl Z). This will take you to your unix shell from > > where you can talk. After finishing, type fg. This will take you back to > > exactly where you were when you suspended pine. > > > > You will first have to enable-suspend by going into Setup (Configure). > > There is an option in the feature list. > > > > Nevin. > > Does this work with every version of Pine? What does fg stand for? > > Rasheed > > --- > R > a B > s a rbaqai@uci.edu > h q http://www.ics.uci.edu/~rbaqai/ > e a University of California, Irvine-Information & Computer Science > e i > d > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 02:56:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06764; Wed, 21 Feb 96 02:56:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05593; Wed, 21 Feb 96 02:47:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from zeus.ubbcluj.ro by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05587; Wed, 21 Feb 96 02:47:30 -0800 Received: from home by zeus with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tpC4a-0007wRC; Wed, 21 Feb 96 12:47 GMT+0200 Received: from infosun1.scs.ubbcluj.ro by home with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tpCv2-000cBiC; Wed, 21 Feb 96 13:41 GMT+0200 Received: by infosun1.scs.ubbcluj.ro (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00993; Wed, 21 Feb 96 13:51:13 +0200 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 13:51:11 +0200 (EET) From: Olar Horatiu Mihai To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 449 please,send some info about pine thank you for listening From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 03:22:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07419; Wed, 21 Feb 96 03:22:20 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05920; Wed, 21 Feb 96 03:12:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05914; Wed, 21 Feb 96 03:12:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpCPz-00038RC; Wed, 21 Feb 96 03:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ronald@trace.com.tw (Ronald Wiplinger) Message-Id: Control: cancel <728708Au4249to41704@news.trace.com.tw> Subject: cmsg cancel <728708Au4249to41704@news.trace.com.tw> Date: 20 Feb 1996 10:04:03 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 450 Cancelled by jem@xpat.com. 824810643 NEWYEAR Original Subject was: *+* Happy New Lunar Year *+* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 03:58:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08318; Wed, 21 Feb 96 03:58:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29557; Wed, 21 Feb 96 03:47:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29551; Wed, 21 Feb 96 03:47:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpCxG-00038VC; Wed, 21 Feb 96 03:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: donny@ms1.hinet.net (Donny Lee) Subject: Re: Pico config? Date: 21 Feb 1996 07:35:30 GMT Message-Id: <4gei02$28n@netnews.hinet.net> References: <4gco8a$1rq@netnews.hinet.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 451 Paul O Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) wrote: : > Hello, I'm new using pine and pico, and tring to find a : > newsgroup talking about pico, but no luck. Could somebody : > point me a place to go? Or I can have the question, as title, : Pico as such (apart from Pine) is an editor, and there is a newsgroup : dedicated to editors: comp.editors . I follow it, and occasionally Pico : questions come up. : Paul Ok, I'll try to find that group, thanx. // Donny --- þ Jabber v1.2 þ This space for lease, contact me at donny@ms1.hinet.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 03:59:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08371; Wed, 21 Feb 96 03:59:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06329; Wed, 21 Feb 96 03:47:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06323; Wed, 21 Feb 96 03:47:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpCwd-00038RC; Wed, 21 Feb 96 03:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jim eagle Subject: Re: Getting ^^ In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <4gb494$dp6@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 07:00:31 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 452 My problem marking text went away when I upgraded NCSA Telnet to version 2.7b4. With version 2.6 I needed to use esc-esc-^; but with 2.7b4 control-^ works, as it should. Jim Eagle p.s. I'm running NCSA Telnet on a Mac powerbook 520c. On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, jim eagle wrote: > > > > >Hello --- I'm using Pine and Pico on SPARC10 via remote dialin ... > > >and when I try to select a block of text with CONTROL-^, a get > > >6 instead. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. > > > > Try using ESC-ESC-^ instead of CTRL-^. > > ----- > esc-esc-^ works! Thank you. > Jim Eagle > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 04:01:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08413; Wed, 21 Feb 96 04:01:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29494; Wed, 21 Feb 96 03:42:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29488; Wed, 21 Feb 96 03:42:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpCsM-00038RC; Wed, 21 Feb 96 03:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmi%ix.netcom.com@psg.com(J. Black, ) Subject: Can I configure pine to forward e-mail to 8 different ISP accounts? Date: 18 Feb 1996 14:50:20 GMT Message-Id: <4g7ebc$k7m@cloner4.netcom.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 453 I need the ability to receive e-mail using my own domain name, but forarding the mail to eight different users. I need to have eight different "aliases" (i.e. alias1@domain.com, alias2@domain.com, etc), with each alias forwarding the mail to a different ISP account. For instance mail sent to "alias1@domai.com" would forward to "user@netcom.com", but mail for "alias2@domain.com" would forward to "user@eworld.com". Can I do this through pine? Is there a better/easier way? TIA John Black jblack@runningman.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 04:59:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10815; Wed, 21 Feb 96 04:59:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07412; Wed, 21 Feb 96 04:47:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07404; Wed, 21 Feb 96 04:47:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpDsz-00038RC; Wed, 21 Feb 96 04:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: perfect@jolt.mpx.com.au (Perfect Logic) Subject: Re: Pine mail program binary for SCO? Date: 19 Feb 1996 03:50:15 GMT Message-Id: <4g8s1n$ab8@inferno.mpx.com.au> References: <4frhci$m3k@ra.isisnet.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 454 Ross MacKinnon (ak065@ccn.cs.dal.ca) wrote: : Does anyone know if there's a compiled binary for 'Pine' available for : SCO Unix 3.2v4.2? Check out http://ynp.dialup.access.net/ScoSites.html it has a list of sites with compiled binaries for SCO, I got pine this way. Craig. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Craig O'Shannessy. _ _ |_) _ ._ _|_ _ _ _|_ | _ _ o _ perfect@mpx.com.au | (/_| | (/_(_ |_ |_(_)(_||(_ Pty Ltd _| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 05:02:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10880; Wed, 21 Feb 96 05:02:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07528; Wed, 21 Feb 96 04:55:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alfa.cab.u-szeged.hu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07470; Wed, 21 Feb 96 04:51:27 -0800 Message-Id: <9602211251.AA07470@mx1.cac.washington.edu> From: h531813@stud.u-szeged.hu Date: Wed, 21 Feb 96 13:46 MET To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 455 >From h531813 Wed Feb 21 13:46:44 +0100 1996 remote from stud.u-szeged.hu Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 13:46:44 +0100 (MET) From: Szilagyi Erzsebet X-Sender: h531813@alfa To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: asking for help Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from stud.u-szeged.hu by stud.u-szeged.hu; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 13:46 MET Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 396 I do not know much about pine that is why I would like to ask for your help. My sent-mail folder has been fused into one sent-mail(READONLY) file. All the messages I write now cannot be added to this file and they cannot be saved anywhere. Please help me if you know what happened and if you are able to tell me how to separate my messages again. Thanks for your help. Erzsebet Szilagyi From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 05:44:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12063; Wed, 21 Feb 96 05:44:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01227; Wed, 21 Feb 96 05:32:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01221; Wed, 21 Feb 96 05:32:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpEab-00038RC; Wed, 21 Feb 96 05:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Carlos PINTO-PEREIRA Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:41:01 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 456 Hi there, How can i create acented letters using Pico in Pine? I work from a PC and the computer is a Unix. Thank's CArlos From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 05:50:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12270; Wed, 21 Feb 96 05:50:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01368; Wed, 21 Feb 96 05:43:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01362; Wed, 21 Feb 96 05:43:23 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 21 Feb 1996 12:54:26 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA24448; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 12:24:38 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 12:24:38 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: rmi%ix.netcom.com@psg.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Can I configure pine to forward e-mail to 8 different ISP accounts? In-Reply-To: <4g7ebc$k7m@cloner4.netcom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 457 No, you can't do this with Pine (it is for reading mail *after* it has been delivered). Instead you need to persuade the software which does the delivery to reroute the message. Assuming you are using a UNIX system the chances are that it is using "sendmail" to do this. Try reading the man page for sendmail, particularly the section talking about ".forward" files. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 18 Feb 1996 rmi%ix.netcom.com@psg.com wrote: > I need the ability to receive e-mail using my own domain name, but > forarding the mail to eight different users. > > I need to have eight different "aliases" (i.e. alias1@domain.com, > alias2@domain.com, etc), with each alias forwarding the mail to a > different ISP account. For instance mail sent to "alias1@domai.com" > would forward to "user@netcom.com", but mail for "alias2@domain.com" > would forward to "user@eworld.com". > > Can I do this through pine? Is there a better/easier way? > > TIA > > John Black > jblack@runningman.com > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 06:23:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12957; Wed, 21 Feb 96 06:23:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08541; Wed, 21 Feb 96 06:11:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jumbo.ntplx.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08535; Wed, 21 Feb 96 06:11:37 -0800 Received: by ntplx.net (4.1/NETPLEX-2.3.0) id AA23183; Wed, 21 Feb 96 09:11:48 EST Received: by quoin1.quoininc.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpDd8-000FEhC; Wed, 21 Feb 96 07:26 EST Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 07:26:46 -0500 (EST) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: rmi%ix.netcom.com@psg.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Can I configure pine to forward e-mail to 8 different ISP accounts? In-Reply-To: <4g7ebc$k7m@cloner4.netcom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 458 > I need the ability to receive e-mail using my own domain name, but > forarding the mail to eight different users. Pine doesn't do this. Instead an MTA such as sendmail or smail is responsible for forwarding. The easiest way is to use a .forward file. --- Jean Pierre From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 07:31:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15084; Wed, 21 Feb 96 07:31:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09532; Wed, 21 Feb 96 07:24:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09526; Wed, 21 Feb 96 07:24:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpGIv-00038RC; Wed, 21 Feb 96 07:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rvermey@bazu05.bazis.nl (Ray Vermey) Subject: sending mail in one keypress Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 14:46:24 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 459 Hello there, My question is as follows: when I compose a new message i edit it and after leaving the editor I press ^X. Then Pine asks me if I want to send the message. Is there a way to skip this question and send the mail right away ??? Thanx Ray -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ray Vermey - Hiscom B.V. | Systemmanager Unix Systems |WWW Homepage: Schipholweg 97 |//www.hiscom.nl/personal/rvermey 2316 XA Leiden | The Netherlands |Terranova @ DICS (dics.dds.nl) Phone: +31 71 5256696 |Terranova @ FICS (caissa.onenet.net) Fax : +31 71 5216675 |Visit Leiden Digital City! //www.dsl.nl ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 09:05:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20223; Wed, 21 Feb 96 09:05:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04664; Wed, 21 Feb 96 08:48:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from oak.cats.ohiou.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04656; Wed, 21 Feb 96 08:48:10 -0800 Received: from craig2-wo250-33.cats.ohiou.edu by oak.cats.ohiou.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/03Feb95-1128AM) id AA18666; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 11:49:18 -0500 From: Todd Acheson To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PH or ldap interface to PINE Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 11:51:04 -0500 Priority: LOW X-Mailer: Simeon for Macintosh Version 4 Beta 5.2 X-Authentication: IMSP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 460 Has anyone integrated the Ph or ldap capability into PINE in anyway. I guess the address book capability would be the likely place. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Todd Acheson acheson@oak.cats.ohiou.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 09:45:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22553; Wed, 21 Feb 96 09:45:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06082; Wed, 21 Feb 96 09:34:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from soho.ios.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06066; Wed, 21 Feb 96 09:33:55 -0800 Received: (from jimf@localhost) by soho.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA16027; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 12:25:54 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 12:25:54 -0500 (EST) From: Big Jim To: pine-info Subject: Printing Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 461 How can I print out the help manual for Pine? I tried using the "Y" command but that only sends the help instructions to the screen not to the printer. < BIG JIM > a.k.a. jimf@soho.ios.com ^^^ ^^^ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 09:53:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23263; Wed, 21 Feb 96 09:53:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06189; Wed, 21 Feb 96 09:37:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from soho.ios.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06183; Wed, 21 Feb 96 09:37:13 -0800 Received: (from jimf@localhost) by soho.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA16169; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 12:28:00 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 12:28:00 -0500 (EST) From: Big Jim To: pine-info Subject: Multiple To: addressees Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 462 How can I send the same message to a lot of different E-Mail adresses? Without, of course, typing the messsage over and over. Thanks. < BIG JIM > a.k.a. jimf@soho.ios.com ^^^ ^^^ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 09:59:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23689; Wed, 21 Feb 96 09:59:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06410; Wed, 21 Feb 96 09:42:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06404; Wed, 21 Feb 96 09:42:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpIUG-00038RC; Wed, 21 Feb 96 09:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Stephen J. Weihman" Subject: Re: sending mail in one keypress Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 11:26:32 -0500 Message-Id: <312B47B8.55B9@mail.cyberspy.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 463 Ray Vermey wrote: > Sorry but it is not there .... I use Pine 3.91 on SCO-Unix... > > Do i need a newer version ??? 3.91 is the current release... ------------------------------------------------------- -- Stephen J. Weihman -*- GTE Data Services -- ------------------------------------------------------- -- The opinions expressed herein are entirely my -- -- own, and are not necessarily those of GTE. -- ------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 10:10:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24390; Wed, 21 Feb 96 10:10:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06853; Wed, 21 Feb 96 09:58:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06846; Wed, 21 Feb 96 09:58:34 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13529; Wed, 21 Feb 96 09:58:34 -0800 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 18:21:21 -0500 (EST) From: "John J. Truskowski" To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: jtruskowski@nasc.mass.edu Subject: pine for mac's Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:58:25 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Subject: Resent-Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 464 Hi, I have inatalled pine on a UnixWare server. The end users access Pine using PC's (PcPine), Kermit emulation or dumb terminals. Is there a MacIntosh version of Pine? If yes, where do I look for information. Thanks. JjT From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 10:21:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25002; Wed, 21 Feb 96 10:21:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07003; Wed, 21 Feb 96 10:02:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06997; Wed, 21 Feb 96 10:02:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpIrb-00038RC; Wed, 21 Feb 96 10:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schinder@leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov (Paul J. Schinder) Subject: Re: Eudora Date: 21 Feb 1996 16:29:44 GMT Message-Id: <4gfh9o$hh1@post.gsfc.nasa.gov> References: <4gb18q$55k@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 465 In <4gb18q$55k@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> roachd@access.cosmic.uga.edu writes: >Anyone with information on how to configure Eudora to work with pine on a Unix shell account, please help me...roachd@access.cosmic.uga.edu Mac or Windoze Eudora? Set the default encoding of Mac Eudora to AppleDouble (turn on balloon help and see what Eudora itself tells you). I suppose you should set Windoze Eudora to use uuencode if it does it. In no case should you ever use Binhex. -- -------- Paul J. Schinder NASA Goddard Space Flight Center schinder@leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 10:24:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25175; Wed, 21 Feb 96 10:24:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13588; Wed, 21 Feb 96 10:02:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13582; Wed, 21 Feb 96 10:02:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpIn2-00038TC; Wed, 21 Feb 96 09:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Eric Ross, Colorado College" Subject: Compiling Pine 3.91 on Data General DGUX 5.4R3.10 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:26:21 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 466 There was some discussion on this list earlier about a problem with pine when built at DGUX 5.4R3.10 with Maintenance Update 02 installed. I have just installed Maintenance Update 03 and rebuilt pine, and it seems to be working just fine. Eric Ross Colorado College eross@cc.colorado.edu 14 E. Cache la Poudre St. (719) 389-6452 Colorado Springs, Colorado 80903 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 13:34:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05346; Wed, 21 Feb 96 13:34:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12556; Wed, 21 Feb 96 13:22:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12547; Wed, 21 Feb 96 13:22:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpLx9-00038RC; Wed, 21 Feb 96 13:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jon Cohodas Subject: Kill files? Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 12:03:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 467 I apologize in advance if this is the wrong group. I could not find a comp.news.pine ng. Anyway, is there a way for pine to use killfiles in the newsreader? Jon Cohodas From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 13:52:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06219; Wed, 21 Feb 96 13:52:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19832; Wed, 21 Feb 96 13:42:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19822; Wed, 21 Feb 96 13:42:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpMFb-00038TC; Wed, 21 Feb 96 13:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Stephen J. Weihman" Subject: Re: Multiple To: addressees Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 15:29:44 -0500 Message-Id: <312B80B8.7ABA@mail.cyberspy.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 468 Big Jim wrote: > How can I send the same message to a lot of different > E-Mail adresses? Without, of course, typing the messsage > over and over. Thanks. A couple of different ways, actually: Type the list of addresses, seperated by commas in the "To:", "Cc:", or "Bcc:" fields. Create a group in the pine address book that contains all of the addresses you wish to send to (very usefull if you will be sending to this list more than once). ------------------------------------------------------- -- Stephen J. Weihman -*- GTE Data Services -- ------------------------------------------------------- -- The opinions expressed herein are entirely my -- -- own, and are not necessarily those of GTE. -- ------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 19:22:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20366; Wed, 21 Feb 96 19:22:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21099; Wed, 21 Feb 96 19:18:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21093; Wed, 21 Feb 96 19:18:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpRWB-00038RC; Wed, 21 Feb 96 19:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: donny@ms1.hinet.net (Donny Lee) Subject: Re: mail forward Date: 21 Feb 1996 08:46:32 GMT Message-Id: <4gem58$29r@netnews.hinet.net> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 469 Pulp Fiction (br@acsu.buffalo.edu) wrote: : another. SAy from my school unix account to my compuserve account. I have : but i would likle some method of forwarding the mail automatically. : Can i do this within pine or do i have to use a unix script. Try to creat a .forward file in your home dir., and put a line like \br, user_id@place_to_forward_to in the file. that's it. hope this helps. // Donny --- þ Jabber v1.2 þ This space for lease, contact me at donny@ms1.hinet.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 22:33:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25547; Wed, 21 Feb 96 22:33:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00429; Wed, 21 Feb 96 22:30:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00423; Wed, 21 Feb 96 22:30:18 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24360; Wed, 21 Feb 96 22:30:15 -0800 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 22:30:14 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Todd Acheson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PH or ldap interface to PINE In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 470 Some form of WPD support is planned, but not yet implemented. -teg On Wed, 21 Feb 1996, Todd Acheson wrote: > > Has anyone integrated the Ph or ldap > capability into PINE in anyway. I guess the > address book capability would be the likely > place. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Todd Acheson > acheson@oak.cats.ohiou.edu > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 22:48:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25940; Wed, 21 Feb 96 22:48:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00645; Wed, 21 Feb 96 22:43:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00639; Wed, 21 Feb 96 22:43:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpUjS-00038TC; Wed, 21 Feb 96 22:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mihai T. LAZARESCU" Subject: Re: De-digestifying??? Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:00:16 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1920219832-18738370-824918416=:1729" In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 471 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1920219832-18738370-824918416=:1729 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 19 Feb 1996, Pete Holsberg wrote: > I subscribe to a mailing list available only in digest > form. That means when one includes a message of value to > me, I have to save alll the messages. > > Is there a way for pine to de-digestify a mail message? If > not, is there a preprocessor that will? > > Thanks, > Pete > > PS: Please reply by email -- I'm really eager to do this. > Thx. I think you should check the `procmail' distribution. Is a program called `formail' in there that can solve most of the tasks related to incoming mail filtering. I'll attach the man page of it. Regards, Mihai Lazarescu -- Mihai Teodor LAZARESCU Ph.D. student Voice: + 39 (0)11 564 5128 | Polytechnic of Turin Fax : + 39 (0)11 564 4134 | Electronics & Communic. 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YW55DQogICAgICAgICAgYmVyZ0Bwb29sLmluZm9ybWF0aWsucnd0aC1hYWNo ZW4uZGUNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0K DQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KQnVHbGVzcyAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgTGFzdCBjaGFuZ2U6IDE5OTQvMTAvMTggICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgIDcNCg0KDQoNCg== --1920219832-18738370-824918416=:1729-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 21 23:07:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26341; Wed, 21 Feb 96 23:07:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24269; Wed, 21 Feb 96 23:03:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24263; Wed, 21 Feb 96 23:03:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpV40-00038TC; Wed, 21 Feb 96 23:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: William Gray Subject: Re: Un-Expanding Address Book? Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 21:32:39 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 472 yes just tap any letter such as "I" William Gray wgray@puc.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 00:08:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27444; Thu, 22 Feb 96 00:08:03 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01585; Thu, 22 Feb 96 00:03:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01579; Thu, 22 Feb 96 00:03:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpVwf-00038RC; Thu, 22 Feb 96 00:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: READ ONLY AGAIN HELP!! In-Reply-To: Joseph and Figen Tek-Puentes's message of Wed, 21 Feb 1996 00: 12:52 GMT Message-Id: References: Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:38:47 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 473 In article Joseph and Figen Tek-Puentes writes: Hello, my inbox of email is stuck on READ ONLY. Tell me if this is what is doing this. Sometimes when I open pine and then press L for the folders it seems to get Hung-up. It just sits there for the longest time sometimes 5 minutes plus. I dance around the key board and nothing happens so I reach over to my modem and turn it off and then back on again and redial to get back on line. Is this why I get stuck in READ ONLY when I come back online? If so how do I fix it I can't edit my INBOX and it is getting pretty full. HELP thanks for your help, Joseph You're probably leaving pine processes running when you disconnect. Killing such a process when you reconnect should give you read/write access. First, find the processes' PIDs (process IDs), by a command like % ps -efl | grep ftek | grep pine or % ps auxw | grep ftek | grep pine Then kill each process by using its PID. I like to use a "general kill, then a certain kill" (the expression should not be taken overly literally): % kill PID1 PID2 ... % kill -9 PID1 PID2 ... Hope that helps, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4824 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 00:32:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27917; Thu, 22 Feb 96 00:32:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25335; Thu, 22 Feb 96 00:29:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25329; Thu, 22 Feb 96 00:28:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpWNf-00038RC; Thu, 22 Feb 96 00:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Emmanuel Koku Subject: Re: Downloading Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 12:31:27 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 474 Hi, first use the export command (E) to save the file in your home directory, then download it using configuraitons of your system, be it UNIX or VM. Cheers, Emmanuel. On Thu, 15 Feb 1996, 7{lO'/Vd5i95SoI}l wrote: > I need help downloading off of newsgroups. If anybody can help it would > be greatly appreciated. Thanks > ggeiger@wsunix.wsu.edu > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 00:32:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27937; Thu, 22 Feb 96 00:32:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01904; Thu, 22 Feb 96 00:29:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01897; Thu, 22 Feb 96 00:29:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpWNg-00038TC; Thu, 22 Feb 96 00:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phil@ERC.MsState.Edu (Phillip Moore) Subject: Re: pine locks up Date: 20 Feb 1996 20:31:49 GMT Message-Id: <4gdb3l$i3m@NNTP.MsState.Edu> References: <1996Feb14.182458.18328@sq.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 475 Has anyone found a solution to this? We are havingthe same problems with pine and elm. I can fix it in elm, but not in pine. John N. Underwood (junderw@cs.clemson.edu) wrote: : This is not just a problem with Pine, however. We have had similar : problems with ELM and WordPerfect. We recompiled ELM so that the : only file locking mechanism being used is the filename.lock method. : Apparently this is an option in the Makefile. This seems to have : fixed the problem with ELM. : Unfortunately, I haven't figured out how to turn off this locking : mechanism within Pine (and thus depend only upon the filename.lock : method). : We think that it is a problem with Sun's "fcntl", which is called : within "flock", which is used within imap's c-client. : Perhaps using "maillock" would be a better alternative to using : flock/fcntl? : -- : John N. Underwood - junderw@cs.clemson.edu : http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~junderw/junderw.html -- Phillip Moore office : 601.325.4023 (have voice mail) NSF, Engineering Research Center fax : 601.325.7692 Systems Administration www : http://www.erc.msstate.edu/~phil/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 00:52:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28658; Thu, 22 Feb 96 00:52:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25688; Thu, 22 Feb 96 00:49:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25682; Thu, 22 Feb 96 00:49:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpWhB-00038RC; Thu, 22 Feb 96 00:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hanson@fnsolar.fnal.gov (Steve Hanson) Subject: problems opening new folders on save Date: 21 Feb 1996 12:20:08 -0600 Message-Id: <4gfnoo$354@fnsolar.fnal.gov> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 476 I'm having a consistent problem with pine 3.91 that is probably easily explained, but I don't get it. I've tried to set up my default folder collection for saved mail to exist on our imap server (which is the Cyrus 1.4 imap server). I can save mail to folders that already exist. I can also create a folder from the folder menu, and then save email to it. But if I try to save mail to an imap folder that doesn't already exist, pine fails to create a new folder, saying instead TRYCREATE folder doesn't exist. I thought the behavior to an IMAP server was supposed to be the same as saving to a local file - that is, that the folder would be created automatically. Am I missing some sort of option or preference value here? -- Steve Hanson - FERMILAB, Batavia, Il. hanson@fnal.gov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 01:23:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29272; Thu, 22 Feb 96 01:23:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26009; Thu, 22 Feb 96 01:17:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25997; Thu, 22 Feb 96 01:17:13 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 22 Feb 1996 09:02:21 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA18916; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 09:03:21 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 09:03:21 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Jon Cohodas Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Kill files? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 477 Pine 3.91 does not support kill files. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 21 Feb 1996, Jon Cohodas wrote: > I apologize in advance if this is the wrong group. I could not find a > comp.news.pine ng. > > Anyway, is there a way for pine to use killfiles in the newsreader? > > Jon Cohodas > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 02:29:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00934; Thu, 22 Feb 96 02:29:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03389; Thu, 22 Feb 96 02:24:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03383; Thu, 22 Feb 96 02:24:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpY8H-00038TC; Thu, 22 Feb 96 02:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cm5bcmc@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk (Hopkins) Subject: Sig problem Date: 20 Feb 1996 12:29:36 GMT Message-Id: <4gcerg$4c5@bs33n.staffs.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 478 I'm using Pine v3.89, and when I include the original message I'm replying to in my reply, my .signature file is placed at the top of my message, above the message I'm replying to. I used a version of Pine a year ago (when I was at another University) that didn't have this problem. Is there anything I can do about it? Please email me at cm5bcmc@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk Thanx in advance Cheers, Mat =============== Hopkins (Witchfinder General) AKA Mat Corne ============== Features Editor, Zone FM (Staffordshire University Student Radio) Editor, "Noise Level Critical" Rock/Metal/Industrial Fanzine. Staffs users E-Mail: cm5bcmc@bs41.staffs.ac.uk Rest of the world E-Mail: cm5bcmc@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk ========================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 03:05:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01540; Thu, 22 Feb 96 03:05:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03765; Thu, 22 Feb 96 03:00:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [129.179.17.11] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03759; Thu, 22 Feb 96 03:00:30 -0800 Received: from localhost by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 22 Feb 96 19:00:10 +0800 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 19:00:05 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Hopkins Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Sig problem In-Reply-To: <4gcerg$4c5@bs33n.staffs.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 479 On 20 Feb 1996, Hopkins wrote: > I'm using Pine v3.89, and when I include the original message I'm replying to in > my reply, my .signature file is placed at the top of my message, above > the message I'm replying to. I used a version of Pine a year ago (when I > was at another University) that didn't have this problem. Is there > anything I can do about it? > > Please email me at cm5bcmc@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk You really should consider upgrading to 3.91. I don't think 3.89 had the nice configure menu....but that was a long time ago. Anyway, you can edit your .pinerc file and in the feature-list section include signature-at-bottom. Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 03:43:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02318; Thu, 22 Feb 96 03:43:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04259; Thu, 22 Feb 96 03:39:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04253; Thu, 22 Feb 96 03:39:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpZJ3-00038TC; Thu, 22 Feb 96 03:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Carlos PINTO-PEREIRA Subject: Copy / Paste from a MAC to PINE or PICO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 10:04:13 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 480 Goog morning If i need to copy a text from my Mac - it goes to the Clipboard - to paste it into Pine on a mail i'm creating with Pico under a Unix server, sometimes the copy goes on a endless loop. I need urgent help. Please mail me Thanks, CArlos ________________________________________________________________________ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ CERN LHC/IAS _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ 1211 Geneve 23 - CH _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ Tel: (022) 767 43 25 _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/_ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ \ _/_/ _/ _/ \ _/ _/ e_mail - Pinto-Pereira@Cern.Ch Url - http://nicewww.cern.ch/~pintopc/welcome.htm "La culture c'est ce qui reste quand on a tout oublie" ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 03:55:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02565; Thu, 22 Feb 96 03:55:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27620; Thu, 22 Feb 96 03:39:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27614; Thu, 22 Feb 96 03:39:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpZJ2-00038RC; Thu, 22 Feb 96 03:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Alexei Nogin Subject: Re: How do you turn "mime" OFF? Date: 21 Feb 1996 21:19:22 GMT Message-Id: <4gg28q$5eq@mx.iki.rssi.ru> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 481 Terry Gray wrote: >Ian, >As I grow older, there are few things in life I value more than >dependability. That's why I would not consider the idea of an "encode >anyway?" prompt to be an improvement in Pine; just the opposite. Again, >the goal of Pine attachments is *totally* reliable transmission of *all* >files --at least as reliable as using FTP. I have no doubt that if >such a switch were available, we'd get complaints about Pine corrupting >text attachments when a message was delivered to a site where a "From " >turned into ">From " or trailing blanks got stripped, *because* many >folks believe that the Internet is completely "7bit safe". > I really can not agree. A lot of peaple in Russia (and I believe, in other countries too) nead "encode anyway" prompt in Pine not only in attachments and even with not only 7bit texts. In Russia 80% of people use e-mail on MS-DOS PC's with very simple UUCP package. And thay never heard about MIME, thay don't know how to get something by ftp and so on. That's why a lot of people in Russia want to write 8bit messages in "KOI8-r" charset without any encoding. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 03:58:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02651; Thu, 22 Feb 96 03:58:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04233; Thu, 22 Feb 96 03:37:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04227; Thu, 22 Feb 96 03:37:26 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:07:29 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id LAA23029; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:08:28 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:08:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Hopkins Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Sig problem In-Reply-To: <4gcerg$4c5@bs33n.staffs.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 482 Try looking in Pine's Setup Configuration screen (S then C from the Main Menu). See the interesting looking option entitled "signature-at-bottom"? Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 20 Feb 1996, Hopkins wrote: > I'm using Pine v3.89, and when I include the original message I'm replying to in > my reply, my .signature file is placed at the top of my message, above > the message I'm replying to. I used a version of Pine a year ago (when I > was at another University) that didn't have this problem. Is there > anything I can do about it? > > Please email me at cm5bcmc@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk > > Thanx in advance > > Cheers, > Mat > > =============== Hopkins (Witchfinder General) AKA Mat Corne ============== > Features Editor, Zone FM (Staffordshire University Student Radio) > Editor, "Noise Level Critical" Rock/Metal/Industrial Fanzine. > Staffs users E-Mail: cm5bcmc@bs41.staffs.ac.uk > Rest of the world E-Mail: cm5bcmc@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk > ========================================================================== > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 07:00:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07070; Thu, 22 Feb 96 07:00:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06760; Thu, 22 Feb 96 06:45:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs.stritch.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06754; Thu, 22 Feb 96 06:45:51 -0800 Received: by acs.stritch.edu; id AA02895; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 08:46:10 -0600 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 08:46:10 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Esten To: Carlos PINTO-PEREIRA Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Copy / Paste from a MAC to PINE or PICO In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 483 Not a safe assumption that you can get away with the process - keep in mind that the UNIX program doesn't respond to your mouse and it can't necessarily keep up with the paste. Pine and pico assume that input is coming from the keyboard and you can usually get away with the cut&paste game for small pieces, but I certainly wouldn't expect it to be supported. If you need to insert text, the recommended means is to upload either via FTP or modem the text to your home directory and use ^R to insert it into the text of message. Jim Esten (temporarily between .sigs) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 08:13:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09610; Thu, 22 Feb 96 08:13:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01512; Thu, 22 Feb 96 07:59:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01506; Thu, 22 Feb 96 07:59:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpdOk-00038RC; Thu, 22 Feb 96 07:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: youland_j@dep.state.fl.us (youland_j@dep.state.fl.us) Subject: "to" rather than "from" in index Date: 22 Feb 1996 14:48:19 GMT Message-Id: <4ghvnj$4vd@epic38.dep.state.fl.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 484 When I send messages to listserv groups or myself, my inbox index shows, "To: listserv name", rather than indicating that it's from my name. I'm using Pine 3.1 and have tried various SETUP/CONFIGURE settings. Where have I gone wrong -- or at least not gone right : - ) ? TIA jeanxyz@freenet.scri.fsu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 08:55:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11400; Thu, 22 Feb 96 08:55:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02584; Thu, 22 Feb 96 08:36:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sashimi.wwa.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02578; Thu, 22 Feb 96 08:36:07 -0800 Received: from miso.wwa.com by sashimi.wwa.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0tpdzv-001VyPC; Thu, 22 Feb 96 10:36 CST Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 10:36:03 -0600 (CST) From: Dan Roy To: Mike Brudenell Cc: Jon Cohodas , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Kill files? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 485 On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Pine 3.91 does not support kill files. > What about the up and coming pine 3.92?> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 09:21:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13185; Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:21:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03779; Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:10:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03773; Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:10:39 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01000; Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:10:29 -0800 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 09:10:28 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Steve Hanson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: problems opening new folders on save In-Reply-To: <4gfnoo$354@fnsolar.fnal.gov> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 486 Steve, There are two mysteries here. You're right, the behavior should be the same in both the local and remote case, but in both cases Pine should prompt you ask whether you want to create the new folder. Can you double-check what you're seeing in the local case? Then we can concentrate on whether you have discovered a bug in the way Pine and Cyrus imapd interact. -teg On 21 Feb 1996, Steve Hanson wrote: > I'm having a consistent problem with pine 3.91 that is probably easily > explained, but I don't get it. > > I've tried to set up my default folder collection for saved mail to exist > on our imap server (which is the Cyrus 1.4 imap server). I can save mail > to folders that already exist. I can also create a folder from the folder > menu, and then save email to it. But if I try to save mail to an imap > folder that doesn't already exist, pine fails to create a new folder, > saying instead TRYCREATE folder doesn't exist. > > I thought the behavior to an IMAP server was supposed to be the same as saving > to a local file - that is, that the folder would be created automatically. > > Am I missing some sort of option or preference value here? > > -- > Steve Hanson - FERMILAB, Batavia, Il. > hanson@fnal.gov > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 09:31:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13710; Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:31:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03950; Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:15:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03944; Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:15:39 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02332; Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:14:00 -0800 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 09:14:00 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Dan Roy Cc: Mike Brudenell , Jon Cohodas , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Kill files? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 487 Sorry, no. -teg On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Dan Roy wrote: > > > On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > Pine 3.91 does not support kill files. > > > What about the up and coming pine 3.92?> > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 09:32:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13797; Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:32:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10367; Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:19:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vms2.macc.wisc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10361; Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:19:54 -0800 Received: from VMSmail by vms2.macc.wisc.edu; Thu, 22 Feb 96 10:38 CDT Message-Id: <26022210382789@vms2.macc.wisc.edu> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 10:38 CDT From: Alan Furchtenicht Subject: automatic mail forwarding with PINE? To: PINE-INFO@CAC.WASHINGTON.EDU X-Vms-To: IN%"pine-info@cac.washington.edu",FURCHT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 488 I just got an account with a free-net and would like to set up automatic mail forwarding to another email address. I've checked all the available help files that the free-net has, but can find nothing that explains how to set this up. I check my free-net account rather infrequently, but don't want to miss any important messages. Can anyone explain how I can set this up? Thanks Alan Furchtenicht furcht@macc.wisc.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 09:34:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13991; Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:34:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10518; Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:24:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from fnal.fnal.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10512; Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:23:58 -0800 Received: from fnsolar.fnal.gov ("port 33420"@fnsolar.fnal.gov) by FNAL.FNAL.GOV (PMDF V5.0-5 #3998) id <01I1IG69HVD00000OK@FNAL.FNAL.GOV>; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:23:51 -0600 (CST) Received: (from hanson@localhost) by fnsolar.fnal.gov (8.7.1/8.7.1) id LAA00921; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:23:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:23:48 -0600 (CST) From: Steve Hanson Subject: Re: problems opening new folders on save In-Reply-To: X-Sender: hanson@fnsolar To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 489 On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Terry Gray wrote: Well, I've looked into it some more and it's clear to me what's happening. IMAP 2 behavior is that a copy to a non-existent folder will create it. IMAP4 doesn't do that, so the Cyrus server doesn't do it. When you do a save to a non-existent folder, pine just does a copy - so it fails. I've posted a new message on this providing a little more detail. The RFC's warn that this may be an interoperability problem. We could probably fix it, but I have to believe that someone else has had this problem already. I've also posted to the appropriate Cyrus mailing list. > Steve, > There are two mysteries here. You're right, the behavior should be the > same in both the local and remote case, but in both cases Pine should > prompt you ask whether you want to create the new folder. > > Can you double-check what you're seeing in the local case? Then we can > concentrate on whether you have discovered a bug in the way Pine and Cyrus > imapd interact. > > -teg > > On 21 Feb 1996, Steve Hanson wrote: > > > I'm having a consistent problem with pine 3.91 that is probably easily > > explained, but I don't get it. > > > > I've tried to set up my default folder collection for saved mail to exist > > on our imap server (which is the Cyrus 1.4 imap server). I can save mail > > to folders that already exist. I can also create a folder from the folder > > menu, and then save email to it. But if I try to save mail to an imap > > folder that doesn't already exist, pine fails to create a new folder, > > saying instead TRYCREATE folder doesn't exist. > > > > I thought the behavior to an IMAP server was supposed to be the same as saving > > to a local file - that is, that the folder would be created automatically. > > > > Am I missing some sort of option or preference value here? > > > > -- > > Steve Hanson - FERMILAB, Batavia, Il. > > hanson@fnal.gov > > > > > > Steve Hanson - FERMILAB, Batavia, Il. hanson@fnal.gov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 09:55:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15712; Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:55:59 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04756; Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:41:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04748; Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:41:27 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02899; Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:41:19 -0800 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 09:41:19 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Steve Hanson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: problems opening new folders on save In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 490 Pine *should* be triggering on the TRYCREATE token from the Cyrus server and prompting you to ask if you want it to create the folder. Try running at -d9 debug level and send us the relevant .pine-debugN section. Thanks. -teg On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Steve Hanson wrote: > On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > Well, I've looked into it some more and it's clear to me what's > happening. IMAP 2 behavior is that a copy to a non-existent folder will > create it. IMAP4 doesn't do that, so the Cyrus server doesn't do it. > When you do a save to a non-existent folder, pine just does a copy - so > it fails. I've posted a new message on this providing a little more > detail. The RFC's warn that this may be an interoperability problem. We > could probably fix it, but I have to believe that someone else has had > this problem already. > > I've also posted to the appropriate Cyrus mailing list. > > > Steve, > > There are two mysteries here. You're right, the behavior should be the > > same in both the local and remote case, but in both cases Pine should > > prompt you ask whether you want to create the new folder. > > > > Can you double-check what you're seeing in the local case? Then we can > > concentrate on whether you have discovered a bug in the way Pine and Cyrus > > imapd interact. > > > > -teg > > > > On 21 Feb 1996, Steve Hanson wrote: > > > > > I'm having a consistent problem with pine 3.91 that is probably easily > > > explained, but I don't get it. > > > > > > I've tried to set up my default folder collection for saved mail to exist > > > on our imap server (which is the Cyrus 1.4 imap server). I can save mail > > > to folders that already exist. I can also create a folder from the folder > > > menu, and then save email to it. But if I try to save mail to an imap > > > folder that doesn't already exist, pine fails to create a new folder, > > > saying instead TRYCREATE folder doesn't exist. > > > > > > I thought the behavior to an IMAP server was supposed to be the same as saving > > > to a local file - that is, that the folder would be created automatically. > > > > > > Am I missing some sort of option or preference value here? > > > > > > -- > > > Steve Hanson - FERMILAB, Batavia, Il. > > > hanson@fnal.gov > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve Hanson - FERMILAB, Batavia, Il. > hanson@fnal.gov > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 10:04:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18167; Thu, 22 Feb 96 10:04:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05035; Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:50:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05022; Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:49:52 -0800 Received: from grizzly by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA13143; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 09:48:05 -0800 Message-Id: <9602221748.AA13143@asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca> From: brian@asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:47:02 0800 To: youland_j@dep.state.fl.us (youland_j@dep.state.fl.us) Subject: Re: "to" rather than "from" in index In-Reply-To: <4ghvnj$4vd@epic38.dep.state.fl.us> Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition v0.99q Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 491 Hi, On 02/22/96 at 02:48 PM, you said: >When I send messages to listserv groups or myself, my inbox index shows, > "To: listserv name", rather than indicating that it's from >my name. I'm using Pine 3.1 and have tried various SETUP/CONFIGURE >settings. >Where have I gone wrong -- or at least not gone right : - ) ? > TIA jeanxyz@freenet.scri.fsu.edu You are doing nothing wrong. Pine is showing that "YOU" wrote the message, and the important part, according to it, is that who it is going "TO", not who it is From anymore. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Brian P. Hampson Internet : brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, Air(2m/70cm): VE7NNW | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733| |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/----------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 10:15:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20273; Thu, 22 Feb 96 10:15:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06013; Thu, 22 Feb 96 10:07:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dutw400.wbmt.tudelft.nl by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06000; Thu, 22 Feb 96 10:07:22 -0800 Received: from dutw38.wbmt.tudelft.nl by dutw400.wbmt.tudelft.nl with SMTP id AA04727 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 22 Feb 1996 19:05:06 +0100 Received: from wb321291 (wb321291.wbmt.tudelft.nl) by dutw38.WbMT.TUDelft.nl (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25023; Thu, 22 Feb 96 19:07:17 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 19:02:59 -0800 (PST) From: "T.I.Hellesoy" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Deleting attached files X-Sender: hellesoy@dutw38.wbmt.tudelft.nl Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 492 I posted this before, but have gotten no response so far: Is there a way to delete attached files while keeping the message? (Does this have anything to do with the ongoing Killfile-discussion?) Thanks! Thor Ivar Hellesoy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 10:28:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20956; Thu, 22 Feb 96 10:28:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12581; Thu, 22 Feb 96 10:17:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12575; Thu, 22 Feb 96 10:17:03 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02386; Thu, 22 Feb 96 10:16:54 -0800 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 10:16:53 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: "T.I.Hellesoy" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Deleting attached files In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 493 Alas, no, Saving without attachments is not yet available --but it's on the list for a future release. No, it's not related to kill files. -teg On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, T.I.Hellesoy wrote: > I posted this before, but have gotten no response so far: > > Is there a way to delete attached files while keeping the message? > (Does this have anything to do with the ongoing Killfile-discussion?) > > Thanks! > > Thor Ivar Hellesoy > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 10:34:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21276; Thu, 22 Feb 96 10:34:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12865; Thu, 22 Feb 96 10:28:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from outthere.wepco.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12855; Thu, 22 Feb 96 10:28:21 -0800 Received: from unknown(156.76.148.30) by outthere via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma011901; Thu Feb 22 12:27:12 1996 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:27:01 -0600 Message-Id: <199602221827.MAA07925@wepco.com> X-Sender: xx2884@mailhost.wepco.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Alan Furchtenicht , PINE-INFO@CAC.WASHINGTON.EDU From: Jim Esten Subject: Re: automatic mail forwarding with PINE? Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 494 At 10:38 AM 2/22/96 CDT, Alan Furchtenicht wrote: >I just got an account with a free-net and would like to set up >automatic mail forwarding to another email address. I've checked >all the available help files that the free-net has, but can find nothing >that explains how to set this up. >I check my free-net account rather infrequently, but don't want to >miss any important messages. How about every 8th person not asking this question and maybe paging through Internet for Dummies or any other of a number of fine references before cluttering up mailing lists. Forwarding Mail: This is a UNIX function. Create a file in your home directory named .forward (yes, that's 'dot forward'). The file contains one line - that being the address to which you want mail forwarded. An example. My home accounts are jesten@acs.stritch.edu and jesten@execpc.com. If I want my mail to automatically be forwarded to my work address, my .forward file has one line: xx2884@wepco.com This is my work email address. As long as the file exists, mail gets automatically forwarded. If you are confused about how to create a file, that's a new question. If you are a pine user and can get to the unix shell (if you can't get to a unix shell, you may need to have your sys admin do this for you), you can probably use the pico editor. To start it, type pico .forward You'll see a screen which looks very much like when you compose mail. When finished, press ^X and answer "yes". Do not change the name from .forward or the system won't recognize it. Happy surfing! Jim Jim Esten (temporarily between .sigs) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 10:45:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21871; Thu, 22 Feb 96 10:45:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13216; Thu, 22 Feb 96 10:37:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13210; Thu, 22 Feb 96 10:37:53 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22120; Thu, 22 Feb 96 10:37:44 -0800 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 10:37:37 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Tony Calguire Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine spell checker In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 495 On Mon, 12 Feb 1996, Tony Calguire wrote: > On Sun, 11 Feb 1996, Chester Paul S'groi wrote: > > > > > 3. Either a better spell checker, or the option to link the Pine and > > Pico editor to a better spell checker from the user point of view. > > > > Is the Pine/Pico spell-checker something that can be customized for a > particular site? If I sent my system gurus a list of words that I think > should be added to Pine's dictionary, could they do it? > Pine uses your system's "spell" program, so yes, your system gurus could update the system dictionary... --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 11:08:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23138; Thu, 22 Feb 96 11:08:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07317; Thu, 22 Feb 96 10:56:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07309; Thu, 22 Feb 96 10:56:46 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22777; Thu, 22 Feb 96 10:56:28 -0800 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 10:56:23 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Dick Adams Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pico question In-Reply-To: <4fqcfh$1l3@access1.digex.net> Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 496 On 13 Feb 1996, Dick Adams wrote: > Phil Edwards wrote: > > Dick Adams (rdadams@ubmail.ubalt.edu) sez: > > >+ I use pico as my editor. I want to set my right margin > >+ to 64 characters, but am unable to locate any instructions > >+ as to how to do so. > > > Pico isn't aware of a "right margin". It simply wraps the line > > whenever you hit the edge of the terminal. To change the "margin," > > simply resize the window in which you're working. (If you're on a > > text-terminal, you're out of luck, but if that were the case, you > > probably wouldn't want to change the margin anyhow. :-) > > Pico appears to be aware of a "right margin" when you justify a > paragraph using CNTL-J. It's the right margin for justification > that I want to adjust. > Pico does not currently have an explicit option to adjust the margin, but it does use the size as reported by the terminal driver. You can typically adjust this with something like "stty cols 64" before starting Pico. Pine sets a limit of 76 characters, but does use the terminal size if it is smaller. Pine 3.92 and the Pico distributed with it will have options to explicitly adjust the wrap column. --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 11:23:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23902; Thu, 22 Feb 96 11:23:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14421; Thu, 22 Feb 96 11:16:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aruba.CCIT.Arizona.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14413; Thu, 22 Feb 96 11:16:30 -0800 Received: (from yontaek@localhost) by aruba.ccit.arizona.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA24033; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:19:35 -0700 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:19:35 -0700 (MST) From: Choi X-Sender: yontaek@aruba.ccit.arizona.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: date-sensitive signature file Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 497 Hi, Is it possible to have a date-sensitive signature file? I mean, can I put a date in my signature file, and make it change according to the actual date of the message to be sent? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 11:24:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24005; Thu, 22 Feb 96 11:24:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14118; Thu, 22 Feb 96 11:06:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14111; Thu, 22 Feb 96 11:05:59 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04506; Thu, 22 Feb 96 11:05:54 -0800 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:05:54 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Andrew Certain Cc: ctorlins@crl.com, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine vs. Elm In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 498 Andrew, Some comments below... > I started using pine when I got to UW because it was supported on all of the > platforms we had available, and found it to be able to do almost everything > that I liked about elm. I have a couple of things that I wasn't able to > figure out how to do: > > 1) Search entire messages for a string. The [W]hereis command looks for > strings in headers, but I couldn't figure out how to get it to search the > entire message. As mentioned by someone else, the Select ";" command provides this. > 2) Send encrypted mail. Not a regular occurrance, but it has come in handy. Painful but possible with 3.91; will be much easier to do with 3.92 (assuming you intend to use "classic PGP"... no support for Multipart/signed just yet.) > Neither of things things are a big enough deal to get me to go back to elm. > There are, however, a few annoying things which are about to cause me to go > back to elm if I can't get them resolved. > > 1) When using IMAP to get my mail off of another machine, pine crashes > regularly (like sometimes every five minutes - other times every few days), > saying that my inbox was closed due to an access error. I sent in a bug > report and got no reply (maybe that's standard). I'll follow-up with you separately on this. Last week a bug in imapd was found that can trigger this error in some cases, but I don't know if it fits your situation. > 2) When I changed to reading just from a local inbox file, it pauses for > about 20 seconds each time it wants to sync the file. I never noticed this > pause with elm. Pine checkpoints, Elm does not. Still, 20sec is a long time. The mbox format and mbox driver that Pine uses by default read the entire mailbox into virtual memory, as opposed to using a temp file. This works better on some systems than others. On a system with little memory and/or relatively poor VM performance (as, e.g., one with slow swap disks), it can be terrible. If you don't need compatibility with other mail tools, the Tenex format has a lot of advantages. > 3) When I get new mail, and it displays the "New mail!" message at the > bottom of the screen, it pauses again for about 5 seconds. Not > life-threatening, but annoying enough to bother me. Probably there's a > config option for this one. In 3.92, the message display/timing algorithms have been completely re-done to minimize unwanted pauses. > In fairness, there are a couple of things that I like better in pine. > > 1) The postpone message is better in that it remembers who you were sending > to and you can have several postponed messages; however, there's no way to > forget about a postponed message without resuming it and then cancelling it. In 3.92 you'll be able to delete messages in the postponed-msg index. > 2) The entering of To: and Cc: addresses is better in that it's easier to go > back and change them; however, it's also a pain because the Ctrl-K (kill to > end of line in emacs) deletes the whole line. There's nothing worse than > sort of following the semantics of some other program. Serving many masters is tough. ^K originally worked like emacs, but early user testing showed that was not ideal for our initial target audience. In 3.92 there will be an option to have ^K cut from the cursor position ala emacs, but alas it doesn't work in headers yet. > It's clearly much more configurable than elm; however, I'd rather have it be > fast and reliable on the things which are important to me than able to do 50 > million things that I don't care about. I agree with those priorities. Fortunately, most people are not experiencing the reliability problems you are. We need to try to get to the bottom of your Access Error problem. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 11:48:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25053; Thu, 22 Feb 96 11:48:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14003; Thu, 22 Feb 96 11:04:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from fnal.fnal.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13991; Thu, 22 Feb 96 11:03:52 -0800 Received: from fnsolar.fnal.gov ("port 33744"@fnsolar.fnal.gov) by FNAL.FNAL.GOV (PMDF V5.0-5 #3998) id <01I1IJN6YCIE0000OK@FNAL.FNAL.GOV>; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 13:03:48 -0600 (CST) Received: (from hanson@localhost) by fnsolar.fnal.gov (8.7.1/8.7.1) id NAA01132; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 13:03:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 13:03:45 -0600 (CST) From: Steve Hanson Subject: Re: problems opening new folders on save In-Reply-To: X-Sender: hanson@fnsolar To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 499 On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Terry Gray wrote: Okay, here's the debug output - I'm enclosing rather a lot of it in case some of the earlier stuff in the session sheds some light. Debug output of the Pine program (at debug level 9). Version 3.91 Thu Feb 22 12:43:55 1996 reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf" Read 5513 characters: user-domain : fnal.gov nntp-server : fnnews.fnal.gov inbox-path : {imap1.fnal.gov:143}inbox incoming-folders : mail/[] default-fcc : {boise.fnal.gov}sent-mail reading_pinerc "/afs/fnal.gov/files/home/room1/hanson/.pinerc" Read 6066 characters: nntp-server : fnnews.fnal.gov inbox-path : {imap1.fnal.gov:143}INBOX incoming-folders : {cyrus.andrew.cmu.edu:143}archive.imap : {cyrus.andrew.cmu.edu:143}archive.info-cyrus : {cyrus.andrew.cmu.edu:143}archive.c-client folder-collections : server {imap1.fnal.gov:143}INBOX.[] : local mail/[] default-fcc : {imap1.fnal.gov:243}INBOX.sent-mail read-message-folder : read feature-list : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : quit-without-confirm : save-will-advance : auto-open-next-unread : expunge-without-confirm : signature-at-bottom : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-incoming-folders : enable-mail-check-cue : expanded-view-of-folders : show-selected-in-boldface saved-msg-name-rule : by-from image-viewer : /afs/fnal/products/SunOS5/ximagetools/v2_1a/bin/display printer : lp last-time-prune-ques : 96.2 last-version-used : 3.91 reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed" Open failed: No such file or directory set_current_val(var num=5, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=2, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=27, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=36, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=28, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=29, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=30, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=31, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=33, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=34, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=9, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=10, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=12, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=25, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=26, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=3, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=smtp-server set_current_val(var num=18, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=default-composer-hdrs set_current_val(var num=19, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=customized-hdrs set_current_val(var num=37, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=38, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=13, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=24, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=14, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=global-address-book set_current_val(var num=15, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=address-book counted 1 items set_current_val(var num=4, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=nntp-server counted 1 items set_current_val(var num=32, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=35, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=41, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=11, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=6, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=incoming-folders counted 3 items set_current_val(var num=8, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=news-collections set_current_val(var num=7, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=folder-collections counted 2 items set_current_val(var num=22, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=20, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=21, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=23, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=17, expand=0, cmdline=1) is_list: name=initial-keystroke-list ======= Current_val options set ======= user-domain : fnal.gov nntp-server : fnnews.fnal.gov inbox-path : {imap1.fnal.gov:143}INBOX incoming-folders : {cyrus.andrew.cmu.edu:143}archive.imap : {cyrus.andrew.cmu.edu:143}archive.info-cyrus : {cyrus.andrew.cmu.edu:143}archive.c-client folder-collections : server {imap1.fnal.gov:143}INBOX.[] : local mail/[] default-fcc : {imap1.fnal.gov:243}INBOX.sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail read-message-folder : read signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook feature-list : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : quit-without-confirm : save-will-advance : auto-open-next-unread : expunge-without-confirm : signature-at-bottom : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-incoming-folders : enable-mail-check-cue : expanded-view-of-folders : show-selected-in-boldface saved-msg-name-rule : by-from fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last image-viewer : /afs/fnal/products/SunOS5/ximagetools/v2_1a/bin/display use-only-domain-name : no printer : lp standard-printer : lp last-time-prune-ques : 96.2 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/afs/fnal.gov/files/home/room1/hanson/.pinerc) ======= nntp-server : fnnews.fnal.gov inbox-path : {imap1.fnal.gov:143}INBOX incoming-folders : {cyrus.andrew.cmu.edu:143}archive.imap : {cyrus.andrew.cmu.edu:143}archive.info-cyrus : {cyrus.andrew.cmu.edu:143}archive.c-client folder-collections : server {imap1.fnal.gov:143}INBOX.[] : local mail/[] default-fcc : {imap1.fnal.gov:243}INBOX.sent-mail read-message-folder : read feature-list : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : quit-without-confirm : save-will-advance : auto-open-next-unread : expunge-without-confirm : signature-at-bottom : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-incoming-folders : enable-mail-check-cue : expanded-view-of-folders : show-selected-in-boldface saved-msg-name-rule : by-from image-viewer : /afs/fnal/products/SunOS5/ximagetools/v2_1a/bin/display printer : lp last-time-prune-ques : 96.2 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= user-domain : fnal.gov nntp-server : fnnews.fnal.gov inbox-path : {imap1.fnal.gov:143}inbox incoming-folders : mail/[] default-fcc : {boise.fnal.gov}sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lp bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd enable-full-header-cmd enable-incoming-folders enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks expanded-view-of-folders expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys Userid: hanson Fullname: "Steve Hanson" User domain name being used "fnal.gov" Local Domain name being used "fnsolar" Host name being used "fnsolar" Mail Domain name being used (by c-client too)"fnal.gov" Context {imap1.fnal.gov:143}INBOX.[] type: REMOTE new win size -----<24 80>------ Terminal type: xterm Scroll mode: Scroll Regions Context [] type: LOCAL Context {imap1.fnal.gov:143}INBOX.[] type: REMOTE Context mail/[] type: LOCAL Context *{fnnews.fnal.gov/nntp}[] type: REMOTE BBOARD OLDTECH ***** context [] LABEL: Incoming Message Folders 1) {imap1.fnal.gov:143}INBOX 2) {cyrus.andrew.cmu.edu:143}archive.imap 3) {cyrus.andrew.cmu.edu:143}archive.info-cyrus 4) {cyrus.andrew.cmu.edu:143}archive.c-client ***** context {imap1.fnal.gov:143}INBOX.[] LABEL: server ***** context mail/[] LABEL: local ***** context *{fnnews.fnal.gov/nntp}[] LABEL: News on fnnews.fnal.gov set_titlebar - style: 0 current message cnt:1 current_pl: 0 total_pl: 0 comatose(0) returns:prev_col: 14, prev_end:17, top_column:27 spacing:26 prev_col: 41, prev_end:44, top_column:55 spacing:54 0 ? Help 0 1 O OTHER CMDS 0 2 (null) (null) 14 3 L [ListFldrs 13 4 P PrevCmd 27 5 N NextCmd 27 6 (null) (null) 41 7 (null) (null) 41 8 R RelNotes 54 9 K KBLock 54 10 (null) (null) 69 11 (null) (null) 69 row: -2, real_row: 22, column: 0 About to open folder "INBOX" inbox: "INBOX" q_status_message, Count 1, "Opening "INBOX"..." output_message(Opening "INBOX"...) IMAP DEBUG: * OK imap1 Cyrus IMAP4 v1.4.1 server ready IMAP mm_notify NIL : {imap1.fnal.gov:143}INBOX : imap1 Cyrus IMAP4 v1.4.1 server ready === optionally_enter called === string:"hanson" y:0 x:-3 length: 1023 append: 1 passwd:0 prompt:"HOST: imap1 ENTER LOGIN NAME: " label:"" 0 ^G Help 0 1 ^C Cancel 0 2 (null) xxx 15 3 Ret Accept 12 4 (null) (null) 28 5 (null) (null) 28 6 (null) (null) 42 7 (null) (null) 42 8 (null) (null) 56 9 (null) (null) 56 10 (null) (null) 70 11 (null) (null) 70 row: -2, real_row: 22, column: 0 poll event 1, timeout 600 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 13 RETURN === optionally_enter called === string:"" y:0 x:-3 length: 1023 append: 0 passwd:1 prompt:"HOST: imap1 USER: hanson ENTER PASSWORD: " label:"" 0 ^G Help 0 1 ^C Cancel 0 2 (null) xxx 15 3 Ret Accept 12 4 (null) (null) 28 5 (null) (null) 28 6 (null) (null) 42 7 (null) (null) 42 8 (null) (null) 56 9 (null) (null) 56 10 (null) (null) 70 11 (null) (null) 70 row: -2, real_row: 22, column: 0 poll event 1, timeout 600 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 98 b poll event 1, timeout 600 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 97 a poll event 1, timeout 600 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 98 b poll event 1, timeout 600 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 97 a poll event 1, timeout 600 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 46 . poll event 1, timeout 600 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 99 c poll event 1, timeout 600 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 97 a poll event 1, timeout 600 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 116 t poll event 1, timeout 600 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 13 RETURN IMAP DEBUG: A00000 LOGIN hanson baba.cat IMAP DEBUG: A00000 OK User logged in IMAP DEBUG: A00001 SELECT INBOX IMAP DEBUG: * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen) IMAP DEBUG: * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen \*)] IMAP mm_notify NIL : {imap1.fnal.gov:143}INBOX : [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen \*)] IMAP DEBUG: * 14 EXISTS === mm_exists(14,{imap1.fnal.gov:143}INBOX) called === IMAP DEBUG: * 0 RECENT IMAP DEBUG: * OK [UNSEEN 1] IMAP mm_notify NIL : {imap1.fnal.gov:143}INBOX : [UNSEEN 1] IMAP DEBUG: * OK [UIDVALIDITY 815707451] IMAP mm_notify NIL : {imap1.fnal.gov:143}INBOX : [UIDVALIDITY 815707451] IMAP DEBUG: A00001 OK [READ-WRITE] Select completed Opened folder 2174f8 "{imap1}INBOX" (context: "[]") Opened folder "{imap1}INBOX" with 14 messages comatose(14) returns:"14" q_status_message, Count 1, "Folder "INBOX" opened with 14 messages" Sorting by Arrival IMAP DEBUG: A00002 FETCH 1:14 FLAGS IMAP DEBUG: * 1 FETCH (FLAGS ()) IMAP DEBUG: * 2 FETCH (FLAGS ()) IMAP DEBUG: * 3 FETCH (FLAGS ()) IMAP DEBUG: * 4 FETCH (FLAGS ()) IMAP DEBUG: * 5 FETCH (FLAGS ()) IMAP DEBUG: * 6 FETCH (FLAGS ()) IMAP DEBUG: * 7 FETCH (FLAGS ()) IMAP DEBUG: * 8 FETCH (FLAGS ()) IMAP DEBUG: * 9 FETCH (FLAGS ()) IMAP DEBUG: * 10 FETCH (FLAGS ()) IMAP DEBUG: * 11 FETCH (FLAGS ()) IMAP DEBUG: * 12 FETCH (FLAGS ()) IMAP DEBUG: * 13 FETCH (FLAGS ()) IMAP DEBUG: * 14 FETCH (FLAGS ()) IMAP DEBUG: A00002 OK Fetch completed First unseen returning 1 ==== expire_mail called ==== IMAP 12:44 2/22 mm_log babble: Find of mailbox outside context: /afs/fnal.gov/files/home/room1/hanson/.pine-interrupted-mail - mailcap_free - ---- MAIN_MENU_SCREEN ---- new mail called (0 0 2) check_point(VeryBadTime) Mail_Ping(mail_stream): Thu Feb 22 12:44:13 1996 New mail checked IMAP DEBUG: A00003 NOOP IMAP DEBUG: A00003 OK Noop completed Ping complete: Thu Feb 22 12:44:13 1996 ******** new mail returning -1 ******** set_titlebar - style: 0 current message cnt:1 current_pl: 0 total_pl: 0 comatose(14) returns:"14" 0 ? Help 0 1 O OTHER CMDS 0 2 (null) (null) 14 3 L [ListFldrs 13 4 P PrevCmd 27 5 N NextCmd 27 6 (null) (null) 41 7 (null) (null) 41 8 R RelNotes 54 9 K KBLock 54 10 (null) (null) 69 11 (null) (null) 69 row: -2, real_row: 22, column: 0 output_message(Folder "INBOX" opened with 14 messages) STATUS cmd:120, disp:1, length:0, max:4, min2poll event 1, timeout 150 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 105 i Read command returning: 105 i New_mail_count zeroed ---- MAIL INDEX ---- ---- INDEX MANAGER ---- new mail called (0 0 2) set_titlebar - style: 1 current message cnt:1 current_pl: 0 total_pl: 0 IMAP DEBUG: A00004 FETCH 1:14 ALL IMAP DEBUG: * 1 FETCH (FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "22-Feb-1996 11:25:40 -0600" RFC822.SIZE 1351 ENVELOPE ("Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:25:22 -0600 (CST)" "Please note: you may need to reboot at 13:00 TODAY " (("Francois Ostiguy" NIL "ostiguy" "zippy.fnal.gov")) (("Fra ncois Ostiguy" NIL "ostiguy" "zippy.fnal.gov")) (("Francois Ostiguy" NIL "ostiguy" "zippy.fnal.gov")) ((NIL NIL "cartoon" "zippy.fnal.gov")) NIL NIL NIL "")) IMAP DEBUG: * 2 FETCH (FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "22-Feb-1996 11:28:59 -0600" RFC822.SIZE 1848 ENVELOPE ("Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:57:51 -0500" "Re: SAGE calendar" (("Hal J Eisen" NIL "eisen" "sgi72.wwb.noaa.gov")) ((NIL NIL "sage-members-owner" "usenix.org")) (("Ha l J Eisen" NIL "eisen" "sgi72.wwb.noaa.gov")) ((NIL NIL "tommy" "big.att.com")) ((NIL NIL "sage-members" "usenix.org")) NIL "<9602161616.AA10433@peerless> (message from Tom Reingold on Fri, 16 Feb 1996 11:16:41 EST)" "<9602221457.AA28286@sgi72.wwb.noaa.go v>")) IMAP DEBUG: * 3 FETCH (FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "22-Feb-1996 11:31:36 -0600" RFC822.SIZE 2247 ENVELOPE ("Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:31:23 -0600 (CST)" "[uss.fnal.gov #8697] UNIX mh E-mail problem" (("BORIS BALDIN D0 PORTAKAMP #177 X8704" NIL "BALDIN" "FNALV.FNAL.GO V")) (("BORIS BALDIN D0 PORTAKAMP #177 X8704" NIL "BALDIN" "FNALV.FNAL.GOV")) (("BORIS BALDIN D0 PORTAKAMP #177 X8704" NIL "BALDIN" "FNALV.FNAL.GOV")) ((NIL NIL "uss-help" "dcdsv0.fnal.gov")) ((NIL NIL "BALDIN" "FNALV.FNAL.GOV")(NIL NIL "uss-help" "fnnews .fnal.gov")) NIL NIL "<960222113123.202381dd@FNALV.FNAL.GOV>")) IMAP DEBUG: * 4 FETCH (FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "22-Feb-1996 11:38:56 -0600" RFC822.SIZE 2785 ENVELOPE ("Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:19:46 -0500 (EST)" "Re: possible alternative syntax for BODY[
]" (("John Gardiner Myers" NIL "jgm+" "cmu.edu")) ((NIL NIL "ow ner-imap" "cac.washington.edu")) (("John Gardiner Myers" NIL "jgm+" "cmu.edu")) (("IMAP Interest List" NIL "IMAP" "cac.washington.edu")) NIL NIL {31} IMAP DEBUG: "")) IMAP DEBUG: * 5 FETCH (FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "22-Feb-1996 11:41:59 -0600" RFC822.SIZE 3965 ENVELOPE ("Thu, 22 Feb 1996 09:41:19 -0800 (PST)" "Re: problems opening new folders on save" (("Terry Gray" NIL "gray" "cac.washington.edu")) (("Terry Gray" NIL "gr ay" "cac.washington.edu")) (("Terry Gray" NIL "gray" "cac.washington.edu")) (("Steve Hanson" NIL "hanson" "FNAL.GOV")) ((NIL NIL "pine-info" "cac.washington.edu")) NIL "" "")) IMAP DEBUG: * 6 FETCH (FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "22-Feb-1996 11:42:56 -0600" RFC822.SIZE 1920 ENVELOPE ("Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:42:21 -0600" NIL (("Anne Heavey" NIL "aheavey" "fsui01.fnal.gov")) (("Anne Heavey" NIL "aheavey" "fsui01.fnal.gov")) (("Anne Heavey" NIL "aheavey" "fsui01.fnal.gov")) ((NIL NIL "hanson" "FNAL.GOV")(NIL NIL "marilyn" "FNAL.GOV")) NIL NIL NIL "<199602221742.LAA11647@fsui01.fnal.gov>")) IMAP DEBUG: * 7 FETCH (FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "22-Feb-1996 12:00:09 -0600" RFC822.SIZE 1305 ENVELOPE ("Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:00:05 -0600" NIL ((NIL NIL "daemon" "fibb01.fnal.gov")) ((NIL NIL "daemon" "fibb01.fnal.gov")) ((NIL NIL "daemon" "fibb01.fnal.gov")) ((NIL NIL "root" "fibb01.fnal.gov")) NIL NIL NIL "<9602221800.AA15797@fibb01.fnal.gov>")) IMAP DEBUG: * 8 FETCH (FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "22-Feb-1996 12:09:52 -0600" RFC822.SIZE 2222 ENVELOPE ("Thu, 22 Feb 1996 13:04:00 -0500 (EST)" "WWW interface, how-to subsc, jul-dec95 archive" (("Doug Miller" NIL "doug" "bluestone.com")) (("Doug Miller" NIL "doug" "bluestone.com")) (("Doug Miller" NIL "doug" "bluestone.com")) ((NIL NIL "req" "ccs.neu.edu")) NIL NIL NIL "")) IMAP DEBUG: * 9 FETCH (FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "22-Feb-1996 12:10:38 -0600" RFC822.SIZE 1883 ENVELOPE ("Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:01:53 -0600" "Memo on the Web" (("Mari Herrera" NIL "mari_herrera" "QMGate.FNAL.GOV")) (("Mari Herrera" NIL "mari_herrera" "QMGate.FN AL.GOV")) (("Mari Herrera" NIL "mari_herrera" "QMGate.FNAL.GOV")) (("CD" NIL "CD" "FNAL.GOV")) NIL NIL NIL "")) IMAP DEBUG: * 10 FETCH (FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "22-Feb-1996 12:13:40 -0600" RFC822.SIZE 1507 ENVELOPE ("Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:13:37 -0600" "Unapproved newgroup by cchong@eniac.seas.upenn.edu" ((NIL NIL "news" "fnnews.fnal.gov")) ((NIL NIL "news" "fnnews.fnal .gov")) ((NIL NIL "news" "fnnews.fnal.gov")) ((NIL NIL "usenet" "fnnews.fnal.gov")) NIL NIL NIL "<199602221813.AA27925@fnnews.fnal.gov>")) IMAP DEBUG: * 11 FETCH (FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "22-Feb-1996 12:18:31 -0600" RFC822.SIZE 2276 ENVELOPE ("Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:17:55 -0600" "a couple of things on fnalu" (("Anne Heavey" NIL "aheavey" "fsui01.fnal.gov")) (("Anne Heavey" NIL "aheavey" "fsui01.f nal.gov")) (("Anne Heavey" NIL "aheavey" "fsui01.fnal.gov")) ((NIL NIL "hanson" "FNAL.GOV")) ((NIL NIL "streets" "FNAL.GOV")) NIL NIL "<199602221817.MAA12054@fsui01.fnal.gov>")) IMAP DEBUG: * 12 FETCH (FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "22-Feb-1996 12:21:03 -0600" RFC822.SIZE 2830 ENVELOPE ("Thu, 22 Feb 1996 09:48:15 -0800 (PST)" "Re: possible alternative syntax for BODY[
]" (("Mark Crispin" NIL "MRC" "panda.com")) ((NIL NIL "owner-i map" "cac.washington.edu")) (("Mark Crispin" NIL "MRC" "panda.com")) (("John Gardiner Myers" NIL "jgm+" "cmu.edu")) (("IMAP Interest List" NIL "IMAP" "cac.washington.edu")) NIL "" "")) IMAP DEBUG: * 13 FETCH (FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "22-Feb-1996 12:39:00 -0600" RFC822.SIZE 1983 ENVELOPE ("Thu, 22 Feb 1996 13:21:13 -0500" "Conversion to Solaris 2.4" (("Russell Catalano" NIL "rxc07" "health.state.ny.us")) (("Russell Catalano" NIL "rxc07" "h ealth.state.ny.us")) (("Russell Catalano" NIL "rxc07" "health.state.ny.us")) ((NIL NIL "auto-net" "math.gatech.edu")) NIL NIL NIL "<199602221824.AA08551@gate1.health.state.ny.us>")) IMAP DEBUG: * 14 FETCH (FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "22-Feb-1996 12:40:39 -0600" RFC822.SIZE 2031 ENVELOPE ("Thu, 22 Feb 1996 10:52:00 -0800 (PST)" "RE: Cold Comfort Farm" (("US Products Mailbox" NIL "USProducts" "bbc.co.uk")) (("US Products Mailbox" NIL "USPro ducts" "bbc.co.uk")) (("US Products Mailbox" NIL "USProducts" "bbc.co.uk")) (("Steve Hanson" NIL "hanson" "FNAL.GOV")) NIL NIL NIL "<312D0362@mail.tv.bbc.co.uk>")) IMAP DEBUG: A00004 OK Fetch completed comatose(1) returns:"1" comatose(14) returns:"14" comatose(14) returns:"14" === build_header_line (1) called === Parse date: "Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:25:22 -0600 (CST)" to.. hours_off_gmt:-6 min_off_gmt:0 Parse date: wkday:4 month:2 year:1996 day:22 hour:11 min:25 sec:22 comatose(1351) returns:"1,351" subject_length : 37 strlen(subject : 37 Returning 2250e8 -> < N 1 Feb 22 Francois Ostiguy (1,351) Please note: you may need to reboot a (80), 55546538> === build_header_line (2) called === Parse date: "Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:57:51 -0500" to.. hours_off_gmt:-5 min_off_gmt:0 Parse date: wkday:4 month:2 year:1996 day:22 hour:9 min:57 sec:51 comatose(1848) returns:"1,848" subject_length : 37 strlen(subject : 37 Returning 225140 -> < N 2 Feb 22 Hal J Eisen (1,848) Re: SAGE calendar (80), 228811130> === build_header_line (3) called === Parse date: "Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:31:23 -0600 (CST)" to.. hours_off_gmt:-6 min_off_gmt:0 Parse date: wkday:4 month:2 year:1996 day:22 hour:11 min:31 sec:23 comatose(2247) returns:"2,247" subject_length : 37 strlen(subject : 37 Returning 225198 -> < N 3 Feb 22 BORIS BALDIN D0 PO (2,247) [uss.fnal.gov #8697] UNIX mh E-mail p (80), 231768023> === build_header_line (4) called === Parse date: "Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:19:46 -0500 (EST)" to.. hours_off_gmt:-5 min_off_gmt:0 Parse date: wkday:4 month:2 year:1996 day:22 hour:12 min:19 sec:46 comatose(2785) returns:"2,785" subject_length : 37 strlen(subject : 37 Returning 2251f0 -> < N 4 Feb 22 John Gardiner Myer (2,785) Re: possible alternative syntax for B (80), 33444534> === build_header_line (5) called === Parse date: "Thu, 22 Feb 1996 09:41:19 -0800 (PST)" to.. hours_off_gmt:-8 min_off_gmt:0 Parse date: wkday:4 month:2 year:1996 day:22 hour:9 min:41 sec:19 comatose(3965) returns:"3,965" subject_length : 37 strlen(subject : 37 Returning 225248 -> <+ N 5 Feb 22 Terry Gray (3,965) Re: problems opening new folders on s (80), 195383238> === build_header_line (6) called === Parse date: "Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:42:21 -0600" to.. hours_off_gmt:-6 min_off_gmt:0 Parse date: wkday:4 month:2 year:1996 day:22 hour:11 min:42 sec:21 comatose(1920) returns:"1,920" subject_length : 37 strlen(subject : 37 Returning 2252a0 -> <+ N 6 Feb 22 Anne Heavey (1,920) (80), 33434714> === build_header_line (7) called === Parse date: "Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:00:05 -0600" to.. hours_off_gmt:-6 min_off_gmt:0 Parse date: wkday:4 month:2 year:1996 day:22 hour:12 min:0 sec:5 comatose(1305) returns:"1,305" subject_length : 37 strlen(subject : 37 Returning 2252f8 -> < N 7 Feb 22 daemon@fibb01.fnal (1,305) (80), 86344049> === build_header_line (8) called === Parse date: "Thu, 22 Feb 1996 13:04:00 -0500 (EST)" to.. hours_off_gmt:-5 min_off_gmt:0 Parse date: wkday:4 month:2 year:1996 day:22 hour:13 min:4 sec:0 comatose(2222) returns:"2,222" subject_length : 37 strlen(subject : 37 Returning 225350 -> < N 8 Feb 22 Doug Miller (2,222) WWW interface, how-to subsc, jul-dec9 (80), 188834768> === build_header_line (9) called === Parse date: "Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:01:53 -0600" to.. hours_off_gmt:-6 min_off_gmt:0 Parse date: wkday:4 month:2 year:1996 day:22 hour:12 min:1 sec:53 comatose(1883) returns:"1,883" subject_length : 37 strlen(subject : 37 Returning 2253a8 -> < N 9 Feb 22 Mari Herrera (1,883) Memo on the Web (80), 65740204> === build_header_line (10) called === Parse date: "Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:13:37 -0600" to.. hours_off_gmt:-6 min_off_gmt:0 Parse date: wkday:4 month:2 year:1996 day:22 hour:12 min:13 sec:37 comatose(1507) returns:"1,507" subject_length : 37 strlen(subject : 37 Returning 225400 -> < N 10 Feb 22 news@fnnews.fnal.g (1,507) Unapproved newgroup by cchong@eniac.s (80), 213697197> === build_header_line (11) called === Parse date: "Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:17:55 -0600" to.. hours_off_gmt:-6 min_off_gmt:0 Parse date: wkday:4 month:2 year:1996 day:22 hour:12 min:17 sec:55 comatose(2276) returns:"2,276" subject_length : 37 strlen(subject : 37 Returning 225458 -> <+ N 11 Feb 22 Anne Heavey (2,276) a couple of things on fnalu (80), 89889793> === build_header_line (12) called === Parse date: "Thu, 22 Feb 1996 09:48:15 -0800 (PST)" to.. hours_off_gmt:-8 min_off_gmt:0 Parse date: wkday:4 month:2 year:1996 day:22 hour:9 min:48 sec:15 comatose(2830) returns:"2,830" subject_length : 37 strlen(subject : 37 Returning 2254b0 -> < N 12 Feb 22 Mark Crispin (2,830) Re: possible alternative syntax for B (80), 149880874> === build_header_line (13) called === Parse date: "Thu, 22 Feb 1996 13:21:13 -0500" to.. hours_off_gmt:-5 min_off_gmt:0 Parse date: wkday:4 month:2 year:1996 day:22 hour:13 min:21 sec:13 comatose(1983) returns:"1,983" subject_length : 37 strlen(subject : 37 Returning 225508 -> < N 13 Feb 22 Russell Catalano (1,983) Conversion to Solaris 2.4 (80), 99335260> === build_header_line (14) called === Parse date: "Thu, 22 Feb 1996 10:52:00 -0800 (PST)" to.. hours_off_gmt:-8 min_off_gmt:0 Parse date: wkday:4 month:2 year:1996 day:22 hour:10 min:52 sec:0 comatose(2031) returns:"2,031" subject_length : 37 strlen(subject : 37 Returning 225560 -> <+ N 14 Feb 22 US Products Mailbo (2,031) RE: Cold Comfort Farm (80), 75176085> prev_col: 0, prev_end:8, top_column:14 spacing:13 prev_col: 13, prev_end:26, top_column:27 spacing:26 prev_col: 26, prev_end:37, top_column:41 spacing:40 prev_col: 40, prev_end:52, top_column:55 spacing:54 prev_col: 54, prev_end:64, top_column:69 spacing:68 0 ? Help 0 1 O OTHER CMDS 0 2 M Main Menu 13 3 V [ViewMsg] 13 4 P PrevMsg 26 5 N NextMsg 26 6 - PrevPage 40 7 Spc NextPage 38 8 D Delete 54 9 U Undelete 54 10 R Reply 68 11 F Forward 68 row: -2, real_row: 22, column: 0 STATUS: diff:-14, displayed: 825014653, now: 825014669 Clearing status line STATUS cmd:120, disp:0, length:0, max:4, min2poll event 1, timeout 150 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 115 s Read command returning: 115 s New_mail_count zeroed - process_cmd((115)s) - - saving message - === optionally_enter called === string:"" y:0 x:-3 length: 64 append: 1 passwd:0 prompt:"SAVE to folder in [ostiguy] : " label:"To Fldrs" prev_col: 0, prev_end:10, top_column:15 spacing:13 prev_col: 13, prev_end:27, top_column:28 spacing:26 0 ^G Help 0 1 ^C Cancel 0 2 ^T To Fldrs 13 3 Ret Accept 12 4 ^P Prev Colle 26 5 ^N Next Colle 26 6 (null) (null) 42 7 (null) (null) 42 8 (null) (null) 56 9 (null) (null) 56 10 (null) (null) 70 11 (null) (null) 70 row: -2, real_row: 22, column: 0 poll event 1, timeout 600 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 116 t poll event 1, timeout 600 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 101 e poll event 1, timeout 600 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 115 s poll event 1, timeout 600 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 116 t poll event 1, timeout 600 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 102 f poll event 1, timeout 600 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 111 o poll event 1, timeout 600 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 108 l poll event 1, timeout 600 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 100 d poll event 1, timeout 600 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 101 e poll event 1, timeout 600 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 114 r poll event 1, timeout 600 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 13 RETURN rc = 0, "testfolder" "ostiguy" IMAP DEBUG: A00005 COPY 1 INBOX.testfolder IMAP DEBUG: A00005 NO [TRYCREATE] Mailbox does not exist IMAP 12:44 2/22 mm_log ERROR: [TRYCREATE] Mailbox does not exist q_status_message, Count 1, "[TRYCREATE] Mailbox does not exist" FAILED save of msg-id <> new mail called (0 0 2) check_point(VeryBadTime) ******** new mail returning -1 ******** comatose(1) returns:"1" === build_header_line (1) called === Returning 2250e8 -> < N 1 Feb 22 Francois Ostiguy (1,351) Please note: you may need to reboot a (80), 55546538> === build_header_line (2) called === Returning 225140 -> < N 2 Feb 22 Hal J Eisen (1,848) Re: SAGE calendar (80), 228811130> === build_header_line (3) called === Returning 225198 -> < N 3 Feb 22 BORIS BALDIN D0 PO (2,247) [uss.fnal.gov #8697] UNIX mh E-mail p (80), 231768023> === build_header_line (4) called === Returning 2251f0 -> < N 4 Feb 22 John Gardiner Myer (2,785) Re: possible alternative syntax for B (80), 33444534> === build_header_line (5) called === Returning 225248 -> <+ N 5 Feb 22 Terry Gray (3,965) Re: problems opening new folders on s (80), 195383238> === build_header_line (6) called === Returning 2252a0 -> <+ N 6 Feb 22 Anne Heavey (1,920) (80), 33434714> === build_header_line (7) called === Returning 2252f8 -> < N 7 Feb 22 daemon@fibb01.fnal (1,305) (80), 86344049> === build_header_line (8) called === Returning 225350 -> < N 8 Feb 22 Doug Miller (2,222) WWW interface, how-to subsc, jul-dec9 (80), 188834768> === build_header_line (9) called === Returning 2253a8 -> < N 9 Feb 22 Mari Herrera (1,883) Memo on the Web (80), 65740204> === build_header_line (10) called === Returning 225400 -> < N 10 Feb 22 news@fnnews.fnal.g (1,507) Unapproved newgroup by cchong@eniac.s (80), 213697197> === build_header_line (11) called === Returning 225458 -> <+ N 11 Feb 22 Anne Heavey (2,276) a couple of things on fnalu (80), 89889793> === build_header_line (12) called === Returning 2254b0 -> < N 12 Feb 22 Mark Crispin (2,830) Re: possible alternative syntax for B (80), 149880874> === build_header_line (13) called === Returning 225508 -> < N 13 Feb 22 Russell Catalano (1,983) Conversion to Solaris 2.4 (80), 99335260> === build_header_line (14) called === Returning 225560 -> <+ N 14 Feb 22 US Products Mailbo (2,031) RE: Cold Comfort Farm (80), 75176085> 0 ? Help 0 1 O OTHER CMDS 0 2 M Main Menu 13 3 V [ViewMsg] 13 4 P PrevMsg 26 5 N NextMsg 26 6 - PrevPage 40 7 Spc NextPage 38 8 D Delete 54 9 U Undelete 54 10 R Reply 68 11 F Forward 68 row: -2, real_row: 22, column: 0 output_message([TRYCREATE] Mailbox does not exist) STATUS cmd:115, disp:1, length:0, max:5, min3poll event 1, timeout 150 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 113 q Read command returning: 113 q New_mail_count zeroed - process_cmd((113)q) - MAIL_CMD: quit ---- QUIT SCREEN ---- expunge and close mail stream "{imap1}INBOX" q_status_message, Count 1, "Closing "INBOX"..." STATUS: diff:0, displayed: 825014676, now: 825014679 output_message(Closing "INBOX"...) STATUS cmd:120, disp:1, length:0, max:1, min0IMAP DEBUG: A00006 SEARCH SEEN UNDELETED IMAP DEBUG: * SEARCH IMAP DEBUG: A00006 OK Search completed IMAP DEBUG: A00007 SEARCH DELETED IMAP DEBUG: * SEARCH IMAP DEBUG: A00007 OK Search completed comatose(14) returns:"14" q_status_message, Count 1, "Closing folder "INBOX". Keeping all 14 messages" STATUS: diff:0, displayed: 825014679, now: 825014679 output_message(Closing folder "INBOX". Keeping all 14 messages) STATUS cmd:113, disp:1, length:0, max:3, min2IMAP DEBUG: A00008 LOGOUT IMAP DEBUG: * BYE Server terminating connection IMAP mm_notify bye : {imap1}INBOX : Server terminating connection IMAP DEBUG: A00008 OK Logout completed end_screen called about to end_tty_driver end_signals(0) - completely_done_with_adrbks - - mailcap_free - > Pine *should* be triggering on the TRYCREATE token from the Cyrus server > and prompting you to ask if you want it to create the folder. > > Try running at -d9 debug level and send us the relevant .pine-debugN > section. > > Thanks. > > -teg > > On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Steve Hanson wrote: > > > On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > > Well, I've looked into it some more and it's clear to me what's > > happening. IMAP 2 behavior is that a copy to a non-existent folder will > > create it. IMAP4 doesn't do that, so the Cyrus server doesn't do it. > > When you do a save to a non-existent folder, pine just does a copy - so > > it fails. I've posted a new message on this providing a little more > > detail. The RFC's warn that this may be an interoperability problem. We > > could probably fix it, but I have to believe that someone else has had > > this problem already. > > > > I've also posted to the appropriate Cyrus mailing list. > > > > > Steve, > > > There are two mysteries here. You're right, the behavior should be the > > > same in both the local and remote case, but in both cases Pine should > > > prompt you ask whether you want to create the new folder. > > > > > > Can you double-check what you're seeing in the local case? Then we can > > > concentrate on whether you have discovered a bug in the way Pine and Cyrus > > > imapd interact. > > > > > > -teg > > > > > > On 21 Feb 1996, Steve Hanson wrote: > > > > > > > I'm having a consistent problem with pine 3.91 that is probably easily > > > > explained, but I don't get it. > > > > > > > > I've tried to set up my default folder collection for saved mail to exist > > > > on our imap server (which is the Cyrus 1.4 imap server). I can save mail > > > > to folders that already exist. I can also create a folder from the folder > > > > menu, and then save email to it. But if I try to save mail to an imap > > > > folder that doesn't already exist, pine fails to create a new folder, > > > > saying instead TRYCREATE folder doesn't exist. > > > > > > > > I thought the behavior to an IMAP server was supposed to be the same as saving > > > > to a local file - that is, that the folder would be created automatically. > > > > > > > > Am I missing some sort of option or preference value here? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Steve Hanson - FERMILAB, Batavia, Il. > > > > hanson@fnal.gov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve Hanson - FERMILAB, Batavia, Il. > > hanson@fnal.gov > > > > > > > > Steve Hanson - FERMILAB, Batavia, Il. hanson@fnal.gov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 12:39:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27357; Thu, 22 Feb 96 12:39:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16040; Thu, 22 Feb 96 12:18:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from spider.cs.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16034; Thu, 22 Feb 96 12:18:02 -0800 Received: (certain@localhost) by spider.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) id MAA19485; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:17:40 -0800 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:17:38 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Certain To: Choi Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: date-sensitive signature file In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 500 On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Choi wrote: > Hi, > Is it possible to have a date-sensitive signature file? > I mean, can I put a date in my signature file, and make it change > according to the actual date of the message to be sent? > I insert a different quote automatically whenever I send a message. It's little involved, but I can send you the info (or post it if people are interested). It works under UNIX. I imagine that you can adapt it for other operating systems. __________________Andrew_Certain_(certain@cs.washington.edu)___________________ Sex between a man and a woman can be wonderful, provided you get between the right man and the right woman. -- Woody Allen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 12:48:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27792; Thu, 22 Feb 96 12:48:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10095; Thu, 22 Feb 96 12:41:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aruba.CCIT.Arizona.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10083; Thu, 22 Feb 96 12:41:24 -0800 Received: (from yontaek@localhost) by aruba.ccit.arizona.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA47022; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 13:44:04 -0700 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 13:44:04 -0700 (MST) From: Choi X-Sender: yontaek@aruba.ccit.arizona.edu To: Andrew Certain Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: date-sensitive signature file In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 501 On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Andrew Certain wrote: > On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Choi wrote: > > I insert a different quote automatically whenever I send a message. It's > little involved, but I can send you the info (or post it if people are > interested). It works under UNIX. I imagine that you can adapt it for > other operating systems. > > __________________Andrew_Certain_(certain@cs.washington.edu)___________________ > Sex between a man and a woman can be wonderful, provided you get between the > right man and the right woman. > -- Woody Allen > > Yes, Please tell me how to do that. Yontaek From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 13:24:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29721; Thu, 22 Feb 96 13:24:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11081; Thu, 22 Feb 96 13:15:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11075; Thu, 22 Feb 96 13:15:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpiJ3-00038RC; Thu, 22 Feb 96 13:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bill Fryman Subject: Printing from Pine Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 08:03:27 -0600 Message-Id: <312B262F.40C0@library.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 502 We have recently been replacing HP Thinkjet and 500 printers with HP 600, 660, and 660cse printers. We are having a great deal of difficulty printing messages from Pine. When the Print(Y) command is entered, the user is prompted with "Print to attached ASCII?". "Y" is entered and the display scrolls the entire message but nothing is sent to the printer or to the print manager. Has anyone else experienced this problem or have a simple solution? Our user community ranges from the power user to the computer illiterate, so we need a solution that is either user transparent or extremely user friendly. Bill Fryman Supervisor, Systems Operations & Support Olin Library System Washington University in St. Louis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 13:33:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00249; Thu, 22 Feb 96 13:33:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16792; Thu, 22 Feb 96 12:50:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16786; Thu, 22 Feb 96 12:50:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tphxL-00038RC; Thu, 22 Feb 96 12:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sam O Subject: Pine Information for everyone. Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 13:42:44 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 503 IN Return for this information send me the name of someone wanting to buy or sell a home... soberlin@moccasun.utc.edu realtor;scuba;cooking;chattanooga,tn;hang gliding; "Secrets of Pine 3.9" --> Pine 3.91 released on 94.10.11 (fixes some significant bugs in 3.90) INTRODUCTION Thank you for trying Pine 3.9! This version offers many new features, and even some new bugs, so please let us know about any problems you encounter via the "Report Bug" command (B on the Main Menu). Some of the information in this document is included in Pine's online help text, but we hope the additional detail in certain areas will be useful to you. Also, a few items that are not new in 3.9 are mentioned, since they have not been well-documented in the past. CONTENTS o Overview of what's new in Pine 3.9 o How to use aggregate operations o How to use Pine for reading and posting Internet news o How to use "incoming message" folders o Did you know that... o Errata OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S NEW IN PINE 3.9 Here are some highlights of what's new: o Several long-promised commands are now available: -"B Bounce" to remail a misdirected msg to the correct recipient -"* Flag" to set or re-set message status, e.g. New or Important -"| Pipe" to send the contents of a msg to a Unix command o Aggregate message operations: "; Select" to select a set of messages "Z Zoom" to zoom the FOLDER INDEX to show only selected messages "A Apply" to apply a command (e.g. Save) to all selected msgs o Builtin configuration screen (Setup/Config on the MAIN MENU). o News posting. o News subscription/unsubscription. o Multiple address books. o Postpone multiple messages. o Customizable headers for Composer. o Improved MIME attachment support via "Mailcap" configuration file. o Improved support for multiple incoming message folders. o Improved TakeAddress capabilities. o Feature to invoke an alternate editor implicitly. o Features may be specified on the command line. o Feature to turn off implicit marking of a message as deleted when Saved. o Feature to use current-working-directory for Export, ^R, etc. o Control file to specify which options are user-configurable. o A Beta version of PC-Pine for Windows/Winsock is now available. Note that many of these features must be explicitly enabled, either by you or your system manager, and some may be administratively disabled at your site due to security or support considerations. If any of them don't seem to work for you, please check with your local support staff before reporting a bug. HOW TO USE AGGREGATE OPERATIONS Aggregate operations are a new (optional) feature in Pine 3.9. They give you the ability to select all of the messages in the current folder that match some specified criteria, and then to apply any of Pine's ten message operations (i.e. Save, Export, Print, Forward, Reply, TakeAddr, Pipe, Flag, Delete, Undelete) to the entire set of selected messages. The following commands constitute the "aggregate command set": "; Select" to select a set of messages "Z Zoom" to change the Index to show only selected messages "A Apply" to apply a command (e.g. Save) to all selected msgs As is the case with most new Pine features, aggregate operations are not enabled by default so that the basic "out of the box" Pine configuration may remain as simple as possible. To use this particular capability, set the "enable-aggregate-command-set" feature via the MAIN MENU Setup command (after Setup, choose Config). Message selection can be based on message numbers (as shown in the Folder Index), dates, status (e.g. New, Answered), or any part of the message text (headers or body). Selected messages are denoted by an "X" in the first column of their FOLDER INDEX entry, unless the "show-selected-in-boldface" feature has been chosen via the Setup/Config screen. Multiple selections are possible. In this case, Select will prompt you to either Broaden or Narrow the selection, and then ask for the match criteria to do that. In addition, when aggregate operations are enabled, the WhereIs command in the FOLDER INDEX screen will have a new "^X Select Matches" sub-command. When you enter a match string at the WhereIs prompt and press ^X instead of RETURN, every message in the folder whose Index listing includes the match string will be selected. HOW TO USE PINE FOR READING AND POSTING INTERNET NEWS Previous versions of Pine were capable of reading Internet newsgroups (Usenet), but the ability to post messages to these newsgroups, or subscribe to them, is new in Pine 3.9. It is possible that your system manager has configured Pine so that everyone on the system automatically has access to news. You can check this by looking for a news folder collection at the end of your FOLDER LIST screen. If it's not there, you will need to tell Pine the name of your local news server. Here are the steps for using this facility: 1. Choose the "Setup" command from the MAIN MENU. 2. Select "Config". 3. Use the down-arrow-key to select the option "nntp-server". 4. Press "A" to Add a value to this option. Type in the name of the news server for your site, then press RETURN. You will need to get this information from your local support staff. A typical news server name would be: "news.nowhere.edu". 5. Return to the MAIN MENU by pressing "E". 6. Press "Q" to quit Pine; then restart Pine. This is necessary to have the above configuration change take effect. 7. After restarting Pine, choose the FOLDER LIST screen by pressing "L". 8. Select "News-collection" (you can press SPACE to move to the news- collection, which will be the last item in the FOLDER LIST screen.) 9. Press RETURN if you see: [ Select Here to See Expanded List ]. If you have used a different newsreader previously, you probably already have a news subscription file with your favorite news groups listed. If not, you need to add some... 10. Press "A" to Add more news groups to your news subscription file. If you know the name of the group you wish to subscribe to, enter it at the prompt and press RETURN; otherwise, press the "To All Grps" key. Select the desired group and press RETURN. Repeat to add more groups. 11. Once you have newsgroups displayed in the FOLDER LIST, you may select them just like mail folders. One difference between news and (personal) mail folders: while you can mark News messages Deleted, just like with mail, you may not actually eXpunge them from the newsgroup folder. Instead, you may "eXclude" them from view, using the "X" command. In order to remain compatible with other news readers, Pine uses the same ".newsrc" news subscription file. However, this file can record very little message state information. The "Deleted" flag is the only message status flag that is preserved between sessions. When you reply to a news message, Pine will ask if you want to post the reply to the listed Newsgroups. When the current folder is a newsgroup and you enter the Composer, Pine will ask if you want to post to the current newsgroup. Even if you say "no", you may manually enter a newsgroup name, after exposing that header in the Composer by pressing Control-R. (There is also an optional feature to suppress this prompt if you'd like Pine to assume that you want to Post whenever invoking the composer while reading a newsgroup folder.) Here are some additional hints about using Pine for newsreading... o In most cases, the only thing you will need to do to enable news reading/posting is to set the "nntp-server" variable, as described above. For some configurations, such as reading news from the same machine Pine is running on, you will also need to set the "news-collections" variable. Use the context-sensitive help in the Setup/Config screen to see an example of this case. o You may specify a list of hosts for the nntp-server variable. In the absence of an explicit news-collection setting, the first nntp-server listed will be used for reading news. Any other hosts listed will be used for posting messages if the first host is unavailable. o PC-Pine users, take note! PC-Pine will normally look for your news configuration file (NEWSRC) first in your PC home directory (typically C:\NEWSRC) and if it doesn't find it there will look in the same directory where your PINERC file is. You may set the "newsrc-path" variable (PC-Pine only) to specify a different path if you prefer. This may be helpful for compatibility with other PC news readers. o If posting to news groups seems slow, especially if you are using PC-Pine over a slow dialup link, set the "news-post-without-validation" feature via the Setup/Config screen. This will suppress immediate validation of each newsgroup name appearing in a message you are about to post. o If you don't want your subscribed newsgroups to be displayed in alphabetical order, you may set the "news-read-in-newsrc-order" feature and then manually edit your newsrc file to the order you prefer. o To "catch up" in a newsgroup, that is, mark all the messages as deleted, use Pine's new aggregate operations capability (which must be explicitly enabled via the "enable-aggregate-command-set" feature). The four keystrokes ";aad" will cause all messages in the folder to be marked as deleted. These messages will not be shown the next time you enter the newsgroup, or after typing the eXclude command. o In news groups it is not possible to actually expunge messages marked as deleted. so Pine will normally suppress them from the FOLDER INDEX. However, the "& Unexclude" command --available only when viewing a news group index-- will restore them to the FOLDER INDEX display, and "X eXclude" will make them disappear again. o Remember that when you get "Empty List" for news folders in your FOLDER LIST, you need to use the "A Add" command to subscribe to the news groups of interest to you. Unfortunately, you need to do this one-at-a-time right now. o New feature in version 3.91: For those who miss having messages marked with an "N" in the Folder Index, try the "news-approximates-new-status" feature. Read the help text that goes with it, though, so you don't get surprised when some messages you've seen before show an N again... HOW TO USE "INCOMING MESSAGE" FOLDERS It is often convenient to have incoming messages vectored into different folders, depending upon their subject (or any other criteria). This is sometimes called "Delivery Filtering". Pine has no knowledge of how mail delivery is done on any given computer, so it is not feasible for Pine to control delivery filtering. That means you must use whatever delivery filtering tools are available on your system to provide this function. Some of the programs used on Unix systems to accomplish this include: "procmail", "deliver", and "filter". Some sites also arrange for messages addressed in the form "user+folder@site" to be automatically vectored into the named folder. Once the delivery filtering arrangements have been made according to the local practice at your site --and that's the hard part-- Pine needs to be told about the additional folders you are using for incoming messages, besides your INBOX. This is done by selecting the "enable-incoming-folders" feature via the Setup/Config command. Then in the FOLDER LIST screen, you can use the "A Add" command to register the names (and optionally, nicknames) of the additional folders. In cases where these folders are on a remote mailserver other than the one holding your INBOX, you will need to know the name of that mail server as well. Once these incoming-message folders are defined, the TAB command may be used to scan the incoming message folders for Recent messages. When you are in the FOLDER INDEX or MESSAGE TEXT screen, the TAB key will take you to the next "interesting" message (e.g. one marked New); however, when there are no more such messages in your INBOX folder, TAB will check your list of incoming-message folders (if any) for Recent messages and ask you if you wish to read that folder now. If you set the "auto-open-next-unread" feature, it will automatically open the folder, so you can TAB through all of your Recent messages in each of your incoming message folders. DID YOU KNOW THAT... o The "Ret" shown in some key menus at the bottom of the screen refers to the RETURN or ENTER key on your keyboard, and "Spc" refers to the SPACE BAR. o The TAB command normally stops on messages marked as "New" or "Important". In folders where these message status flags cannot be permanently stored (e.g. news groups), TAB will stop on any undeleted message. o You can mark a message as "Important" so that you can easily find it later. This is done via the "* Flag" command. Once a message is so marked, the FOLDER INDEX will show an "*" in the first column for those messages. The Flag command must be explicitly enabled, and it can also be used to set or reset other message status flags, e.g. New. o You never need to press "O" to enable the OTHER CMDS, unless you have chosen to run Pine in "Function Key" mode. The "O" key just sequences through the key menu to remind you what commands are available for the current screen, but all of them are active regardless of which subset are displayed in the key menu. o The "signature-at-bottom" feature only applies to Replies. It is not possible to force your signature to the bottom of the included text in a Forward. o You can define multiple signature files and include whichever one you wish, wherever you wish, via the ^R (Read File) command in the composer. If the file names you choose are very short (e.g. s1, s2) this is relatively painless. o Pine automatically checks for new mail every 2.5 minutes. When viewing the FOLDER INDEX, you can force Pine to check for new mail by pressing ^L, or if on the last item in the Index, by pressing "N". The eXpunge command will also force a new-mail check. If you would like to have some indication of when Pine is checking for new mail, set the "enable-mail-check-cue" feature and watch for an asterisk to flash in the upper-left-hand corner of the screen. (Two asterisks mean that Pine is check-pointing --saving state changes in-- your INBOX.) o You can now cause the Export command, the Composer ^R (Read File) command, and the Attachment Save command to use your current working directory, rather than your home directory, by setting the "use-current-dir" feature. o Experience has shown that printing difficulties using Pine's "Attached-to-ANSI" feature are almost always due to problems with the PC or Mac communication programs being used (not all of them implement the ANSI standard control sequences for printing), or the printer configuration on the PC or Mac; however, there are cases where Pine's printing assumptions don't match what your printer requires (e.g. specific End-of-line convention, or suppression of the trailing form-feed to eject the last page, or needing PostScript). In these cases, setting a custom print command may be appropriate, perhaps using the "ansiprt" Unix command included in the Pine distribution and the commonly available "enscript" postscript encoder command. o The Composer's ^R command means two different things, depending on where your cursor is positioned. If you are editing the header of a message, ^R will cause additional headers to be displayed, e.g. "BCC" for Blind Carbon Copies. If you are editing the body of the message, ^R means "Read File". The file you specify will be included in the message text at the position of the cursor. o You can now control which headers show up by default in the composer. This is done by using the Setup/Config screen to set the "default-composer-hdrs" option. You would specify a list of headers you wish to be visible immediately when you enter the Composer. Other headers are still accessible via the "^R Rich Header" command. o The "H HdrMode" command now conditions not just the MESSAGE TEXT viewer, but also the Print, Pipe, Export, Reply, and Forward commands. This command, if enabled, toggles between displaying or including the basic set of message headers Pine normally shows and all the headers in the message, including the "Received-from: " diagnostic headers. The "H" command is a toggle; be careful to turn it off after use so that you don't inadvertently send unwanted headers when you forward a message. o On the MAIN MENU and in all Help screens there is now a "B Report Bug" command that will automatically attach configuration information that may assist in debugging a problem. It will also ask if you'd like to attach the current message in case the problem relates to that message. o If you find Pine's tendency to ask you for confirmation on certain operations annoying, you may suppress several of the prompts. Using the Setup/Config command on the MAIN MENU, you may choose any of the following features: expunge-without-confirm quit-without-confirm select-without-confirm compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm o You may further reduce the number of prompts you see via the following features which cause Pine to assume a "Yes" response to a corresponding prompt: include-text-in-reply <-- applies to Reply command auto-move-read-msgs <-- applies if "read-message-folder" defined auto-open-next-unread <-- applies if incoming-msg folders defined o The "+" that sometimes shows up in the first column of the FOLDER INDEX means that the message so marked was sent directly to you, as opposed to you being CC'd or receiving the message by virtue of being on a mailing list. The idea is that messages with the "+" sign might require some action on your part, whereas messages without the "+" are more likely to be "for your information". o The "*" that sometimes shows up in the first column of the FOLDER INDEX means that you have explicitly marked that message as "Important" via the "* Flag" command so that you can easily find it again later. o You can cut/paste more than one line at a time in the Composer. Use the "^^ Mark" command (that's the Ctrl-^ key) to set a "mark" at the beginning or end of the composed text you wish to delete or move, then move the cursor to the other end of the block of text to be "cut". Then the "^K Cut Text" command will remove the highlighted text between the Mark and the cursor, and put it into a buffer so that if you move the cursor and then use the "^U UnCut Text" command, it will be "pasted" into the new location. o The key menu at the bottom of the composer does not show all of the available commands in the composer. Use "^G Get Help" for a complete list. o If some control characters don't work in Pine (or Pico), it is probably because the communication or operating system software you are using is intercepting those characters before they get to Pine. Some that are more likely to be intercepted include ^C, ^J, ^O, ^^, and ^_ . If you are unable to reconfigure your communication software to correct this, a work-around is to press the ESCAPE key twice followed by the desired control key. For example, ^C would be simulated by pressing "ESC ESC C" and "^^" would be "ESC ESC ^". o You can suppress the monthly "sent mail" pruning prompts by setting the "last-time-prune-questioned=" variable in your .pinerc to a date far in the future, e.g. "99.9" You will need to do this by manually editing your .pinerc; you cannot change this value from the Setup/Config screen. o If you run "pine -pinerc new_pinerc_file_name" you will get a fresh copy of your .pinerc configuration information placed into the file "new_pinerc_file_name" with the options you are using set. It will also have fresh comments, and then everything in the config screen and the pinerc file should match. Old variables that are no longer being used will disappear. If you ever plan on editing your .pinerc file in the future (and don't want to be confused by obsolete comments), it would be a good idea to run the command: "pine -pinerc .pinerc" Or in the case of PC-Pine: "pine -pinerc \pine\pinerc" (assuming your pinerc file is in the \pine directory on your PC.) o You can suppress the creation of .pine-debug files by running with debugging turned off, i.e. invoke "pine -d 0". Note, however, that this will prevent recording data that might be essential to solving a problem you encounter. Pine normally keeps the last four pine-debug files in your Unix home directory. o You can prevent Pine from saving a copy of all outgoing messages by setting the default-fcc option to the null string (two consecutive double quote characters); i.e. default-fcc="" o You can learn more about Pine, including a brief history of the project and sources of additional information and assistance, by reading the Release Notes via the "R" command on the Main Menu. Of particular note: there is now a news group devoted to Pine (comp.mail.pine) and various files (documentation and code) are now available via both ftp and the World-Wide-Web. The URLs are: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine ERRATA o The Release Notes for version 3.91 have a typo near the beginning: IMPORTANT NOTE: if you are plagued by messages saying ^X or ^Q not should say: IMPORTANT NOTE: if you are plagued by messages saying ^S or ^Q not o The Release Notes also have an error in the configuration section. The MAILCAPS environment variable is a *colon* delimited list on Unix. (It is *semicolon* delimited only on PCs.) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 13:35:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00328; Thu, 22 Feb 96 13:35:20 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17977; Thu, 22 Feb 96 13:25:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17971; Thu, 22 Feb 96 13:25:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpiT8-00038TC; Thu, 22 Feb 96 13:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tim Reed Subject: shell possible? Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 13:05:42 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 504 Is it possible to run a shell command without quitting pine? I haven't found a way to do this yet. Any help is appreciated. Tim ======================================================================== Tim Reed rpgw30@email.sps.mot.com ======================================================================== If you think there is good in everyone, you haven't met everyone ======================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 13:39:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00603; Thu, 22 Feb 96 13:39:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11449; Thu, 22 Feb 96 13:30:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11441; Thu, 22 Feb 96 13:30:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpiYb-00038TC; Thu, 22 Feb 96 13:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hanson@fnsolar.fnal.gov (Steve Hanson) Subject: Re: problems opening new folders on save Date: 22 Feb 1996 14:20:26 -0600 Message-Id: <4gij6a$kh@fnsolar.fnal.gov> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 505 Before I get flamed royally for this - please excuse my putting all that debug article in the mailing list/newsgroup. It was a mistake, honest. I DO know better - just wasn't awake. Sorry. -- Steve Hanson - FERMILAB, Batavia, Il. hanson@fnal.gov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 13:40:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00700; Thu, 22 Feb 96 13:40:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18092; Thu, 22 Feb 96 13:30:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18086; Thu, 22 Feb 96 13:30:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpiYV-00038RC; Thu, 22 Feb 96 13:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hanson@fnsolar.fnal.gov (Steve Hanson) Subject: Re: problems opening new folders on save Date: 22 Feb 1996 10:28:22 -0600 Message-Id: <4gi5j6$id@fnsolar.fnal.gov> References: <4gfnoo$354@fnsolar.fnal.gov> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 506 In <4gfnoo$354@fnsolar.fnal.gov> hanson@fnsolar.fnal.gov (Steve Hanson) writes: As a followup to my own article - I now understand the problem but I'm not sure what the best thing is to do about it - Apparently pine assumes the IMAP2 behavior of the IMAP server - which is that a copy to a non-existent folder will create the folder. IMAP 4 servers don't do this. Does anyone have any experience with this issue - or have a patch for pine to make it do the right thing with an IMAP4 server? >I'm having a consistent problem with pine 3.91 that is probably easily >explained, but I don't get it. >I've tried to set up my default folder collection for saved mail to exist >on our imap server (which is the Cyrus 1.4 imap server). I can save mail >to folders that already exist. I can also create a folder from the folder >menu, and then save email to it. But if I try to save mail to an imap >folder that doesn't already exist, pine fails to create a new folder, >saying instead TRYCREATE folder doesn't exist. >I thought the behavior to an IMAP server was supposed to be the same as saving >to a local file - that is, that the folder would be created automatically. >Am I missing some sort of option or preference value here? >-- >Steve Hanson - FERMILAB, Batavia, Il. >hanson@fnal.gov -- Steve Hanson - FERMILAB, Batavia, Il. hanson@fnal.gov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 13:43:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00785; Thu, 22 Feb 96 13:43:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11579; Thu, 22 Feb 96 13:35:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11573; Thu, 22 Feb 96 13:35:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpiej-00038TC; Thu, 22 Feb 96 13:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dennisk@primenet.com (Dennis K) Subject: Re: Copy / Paste from a MAC to PINE or PICO Date: 22 Feb 1996 10:49:01 -0700 Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 507 In article , Carlos PINTO-PEREIRA did write: > Because i had tried it several times before send the mail, SMALL PIECES > do normally work, but a all file go on a endless looping. > I think the EOF character is the trable maker > > CArlos Carlos, Would you clarify thlast sentence above? Thanks. Dennis Kessler http://www.primenet.com/~dennisk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 14:31:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03117; Thu, 22 Feb 96 14:31:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12894; Thu, 22 Feb 96 14:20:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12888; Thu, 22 Feb 96 14:20:26 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08154; Thu, 22 Feb 96 14:20:20 -0800 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 14:20:20 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Steve Hanson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: problems opening new folders on save In-Reply-To: <4gi5j6$id@fnsolar.fnal.gov> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 508 Steve, It's a little more subtle than that: neither IMAP2bis ('cept maybe a *really* old one) nor IMAP4 servers do the implicit create, but in the IMAP4 standardization process, the syntax for special information tokens such as "TRYCREATE" was "cleaned up", i.e. changed, i.e. made "slightly" incompatible. We didn't notice the problem in testing Pine against our own IMAP4 servers because (I just learned) the UW server tries to be nice to old clients and sends both forms of the TRYCREATE response. It's a Pine problem and will somehow get fixed. Stay tuned while the folks in the back room reconnoiter... -teg On 22 Feb 1996, Steve Hanson wrote: > In <4gfnoo$354@fnsolar.fnal.gov> hanson@fnsolar.fnal.gov (Steve Hanson) > writes: As a followup to my own article - I now understand the problem > but I'm not sure what the best thing is to do about it - > > Apparently pine assumes the IMAP2 behavior of the IMAP server - which is > that a copy to a non-existent folder will create the folder. IMAP 4 > servers don't do this. Does anyone have any experience with this issue > - or have a patch for pine to make it do the right thing with an IMAP4 > server? > > >I'm having a consistent problem with pine 3.91 that is probably easily > >explained, but I don't get it. > > >I've tried to set up my default folder collection for saved mail to exist > >on our imap server (which is the Cyrus 1.4 imap server). I can save mail > >to folders that already exist. I can also create a folder from the folder > >menu, and then save email to it. But if I try to save mail to an imap > >folder that doesn't already exist, pine fails to create a new folder, > >saying instead TRYCREATE folder doesn't exist. > > >I thought the behavior to an IMAP server was supposed to be the same as saving > >to a local file - that is, that the folder would be created automatically. > > >Am I missing some sort of option or preference value here? > > >-- > >Steve Hanson - FERMILAB, Batavia, Il. > >hanson@fnal.gov > > -- > Steve Hanson - FERMILAB, Batavia, Il. > hanson@fnal.gov > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 14:43:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03728; Thu, 22 Feb 96 14:43:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19827; Thu, 22 Feb 96 14:28:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs.stritch.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19821; Thu, 22 Feb 96 14:28:34 -0800 Received: by acs.stritch.edu; id AA18466; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 16:26:22 -0600 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 16:26:21 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Esten To: Bill Fryman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Printing from Pine In-Reply-To: <312B262F.40C0@library.wustl.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 509 On Wed, 21 Feb 1996, Bill Fryman wrote: > We have recently been replacing HP Thinkjet and 500 printers with HP > 600, 660, and 660cse printers. We are having a great deal of difficulty > printing messages from Pine. When the Print(Y) command is entered, the > user is prompted with "Print to attached ASCII?". "Y" is entered and > the display scrolls the entire message but nothing is sent to the > printer or to the print manager. Has anyone else experienced this > problem or have a simple solution? Our user community ranges from the > power user to the computer illiterate, so we need a solution that is > either user transparent or extremely user friendly. > Did it work with the old Thinkjets? By and large, the print to attached ansi does does work well with any ink jet printers. You'll do far better to just connect printers on the unix network and use unix printing. It works perfectly out of pine. Jim Esten From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 14:43:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03767; Thu, 22 Feb 96 14:43:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20018; Thu, 22 Feb 96 14:33:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from fnal.fnal.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20011; Thu, 22 Feb 96 14:33:42 -0800 Received: from fnsolar.fnal.gov ("port 35428"@fnsolar.fnal.gov) by FNAL.FNAL.GOV (PMDF V5.0-5 #3998) id <01I1IQYRI9WG0000OK@FNAL.FNAL.GOV>; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 16:33:09 -0600 (CST) Received: (from hanson@localhost) by fnsolar.fnal.gov (8.7.1/8.7.1) id QAA02696; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 16:33:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 16:33:06 -0600 (CST) From: Steve Hanson Subject: Re: problems opening new folders on save In-Reply-To: X-Sender: hanson@fnsolar To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 510 On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Terry Gray wrote: Thanks. Glad to know I wasn't just going crazy. > Steve, > It's a little more subtle than that: neither IMAP2bis ('cept maybe a > *really* old one) nor IMAP4 servers do the implicit create, but in the > IMAP4 standardization process, the syntax for special information tokens > such as "TRYCREATE" was "cleaned up", i.e. changed, i.e. made "slightly" > incompatible. We didn't notice the problem in testing Pine against our > own IMAP4 servers because (I just learned) the UW server tries to be > nice to old clients and sends both forms of the TRYCREATE response. > > It's a Pine problem and will somehow get fixed. > Stay tuned while the folks in the back room reconnoiter... > > -teg > > On 22 Feb 1996, Steve Hanson wrote: > > > In <4gfnoo$354@fnsolar.fnal.gov> hanson@fnsolar.fnal.gov (Steve Hanson) > > writes: As a followup to my own article - I now understand the problem > > but I'm not sure what the best thing is to do about it - > > > > Apparently pine assumes the IMAP2 behavior of the IMAP server - which is > > that a copy to a non-existent folder will create the folder. IMAP 4 > > servers don't do this. Does anyone have any experience with this issue > > - or have a patch for pine to make it do the right thing with an IMAP4 > > server? > > > > >I'm having a consistent problem with pine 3.91 that is probably easily > > >explained, but I don't get it. > > > > >I've tried to set up my default folder collection for saved mail to exist > > >on our imap server (which is the Cyrus 1.4 imap server). I can save mail > > >to folders that already exist. I can also create a folder from the folder > > >menu, and then save email to it. But if I try to save mail to an imap > > >folder that doesn't already exist, pine fails to create a new folder, > > >saying instead TRYCREATE folder doesn't exist. > > > > >I thought the behavior to an IMAP server was supposed to be the same as saving > > >to a local file - that is, that the folder would be created automatically. > > > > >Am I missing some sort of option or preference value here? > > > > >-- > > >Steve Hanson - FERMILAB, Batavia, Il. > > >hanson@fnal.gov > > > > -- > > Steve Hanson - FERMILAB, Batavia, Il. > > hanson@fnal.gov > > > > > > Steve Hanson - FERMILAB, Batavia, Il. hanson@fnal.gov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 15:35:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06338; Thu, 22 Feb 96 15:35:03 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21471; Thu, 22 Feb 96 15:25:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21465; Thu, 22 Feb 96 15:25:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpkOB-00038RC; Thu, 22 Feb 96 15:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: R R Neuswanger Subject: re: de-digestifying Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:07:52 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 511 If you're really strapped for space, there are a couple ways to do it that're really monumentally kludgy. You can forward the whole digest to yourself; then cut most of it with ctrl-^ and ctrl-K before sending with ctrl-X. Then save the snippet when it arrives. Or export it, and then use pico to do the same thing. Then you can pull the edited snippet back into a message with ^-R, send that to yourself, and save it to the file. A third way would be to use a second mailer, depending on what you've got available .... R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP) Ylistett"av"an ylistys Library of Congress on paras palkinto. Washington, DC 20540-4120 -- Faramir to Sam rrne@loc.gov I speak for me.Only. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 16:38:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08885; Thu, 22 Feb 96 16:38:59 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16104; Thu, 22 Feb 96 16:28:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from maki.wwa.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16098; Thu, 22 Feb 96 16:28:45 -0800 Received: from miso.wwa.com by maki.wwa.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tplNL-000rVbC; Thu, 22 Feb 96 18:28 CST Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 18:28:42 -0600 (CST) From: Dan Roy To: Tim Reed Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: shell possible? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 512 On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Tim Reed wrote: > Is it possible to run a shell command without quitting pine? I haven't > found a way to do this yet. Any help is appreciated. Tim, yes and no you can't run a true shell, but you don't need too. you can suspend the operation of pine by pressing ctrl-z, then, when your ready to come back type: FG. this will cause pine to resume operation exactly where you left it. Now, you must first go in to pine configuration and activate the suspend pine option. I hope this helps.> ======================================================================== > Tim Reed > rpgw30@email.sps.mot.com > ======================================================================== > If you think there is good in everyone, you haven't met everyone > ======================================================================== > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 17:29:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11314; Thu, 22 Feb 96 17:29:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16474; Thu, 22 Feb 96 16:47:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs.stritch.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16468; Thu, 22 Feb 96 16:47:04 -0800 Received: by acs.stritch.edu; id AA21317; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 18:47:38 -0600 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 18:47:38 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Esten To: Bill Fryman , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Printing from Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 513 > ansi does does work well with any ink jet printers. You'll do far better ^^^^^^^^^^^ I meant to say "does not"! Sorry all, had a brutally slow connection and didn't take the time to reread what I had written! > to just connect printers on the unix network and use unix printing. It > works perfectly out of pine. > > Jim Esten > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 17:49:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11888; Thu, 22 Feb 96 17:49:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17792; Thu, 22 Feb 96 17:40:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17784; Thu, 22 Feb 96 17:40:34 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11533; Thu, 22 Feb 96 17:40:09 -0800 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:40:09 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Jim Esten Cc: Bill Fryman , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Printing from Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 514 Jim, Attached-to-Ansi printing problems are usually not a property of the printer itself, although a printer relying on software flow control is arguably more problematic than one using hardware flow control. Difficulties with attached-to-ansi printing are almost always a function of the communications software running on the desktop machine, and/or the terminal handling (especially flow control) of/to the Unix host. Many comm programs do not support all of the VT or ANSI escape sequences (in particular they lack the two for printing), and some Unix hosts have strange and not-always-wonderful stty defaults. Quick rule of thumb: if you don't get anything out on the printer, it's probably the comm (terminal emulator) program. If you get some, but only pieces, of the printout, it's probably a flow-control problem. Having said that, I certainly wouldn't want to discourage anyone from using Unix printing tools to a network printer if that is an option for them. It avoids the comm program and flow-control problems above... -teg On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Jim Esten wrote: > > ansi does does work well with any ink jet printers. You'll do far better > > ^^^^^^^^^^^ > > I meant to say "does not"! > > Sorry all, had a brutally slow connection and didn't take the time to > reread what I had written! > > > to just connect printers on the unix network and use unix printing. It > > works perfectly out of pine. > > > > Jim Esten > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 18:05:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12634; Thu, 22 Feb 96 18:05:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18182; Thu, 22 Feb 96 18:01:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18176; Thu, 22 Feb 96 18:01:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpmna-00038UC; Thu, 22 Feb 96 17:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wjenuwin@pt9525.ped.pto.ford.com (William Jenuwine) Subject: Re: 3.92 suggestions Date: 22 Feb 1996 18:48:43 GMT Message-Id: <4gidqb$ia8@pt9201.ped.pto.ford.com> References: <4fqt76$9g9a@tigger.cc.uic.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 515 Bob Jackiewicz (bobj@tigger.cc.uic.edu) wrote: : I don't know how many of these have been suggested before, but here are things : we'd like to see (fixed?) in the next Pine. [..snip] : - Pine has user-domain setting, which is neat. However, this seems to have a : two fold meaning. First, it's the node to which your From: address is : changed on outgoing mail. Secondly, when you try to start mail to a user : who is not in your addressbook AND not local to your machine, the value in : user-domain is appended to the end of their login name. Can you add a second : user-domain, maybe to-user-domain, which will be the default domain appended : for a person Pine doesn't know about? (clear?) [...snip] I'd take the above one further. Could there be a hook in pine that would be called if the username is not in the addressbook and not local to the machine? This hook would call a user defined utility that takes the username string and looks up the address for that person? (say from some corporate database that links the name to an email address outside of the domain, but still within the network) And don't say global address books can do it. In a company with more than 100,000 employees and hundreds domains, the global address book isn't maintained on unix (but is accessable from unix via a utility). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 18:06:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12661; Thu, 22 Feb 96 18:06:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25020; Thu, 22 Feb 96 18:01:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25014; Thu, 22 Feb 96 18:01:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpmnZ-00038RC; Thu, 22 Feb 96 17:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Carlos PINTO-PEREIRA Subject: Re: Copy / Paste from a MAC to PINE or PICO Content-Type: multipart/mixed; Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:07:32 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 516 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------------------5994268216845 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I copy here the answer i got from: Jim ESTER. Not a safe assumption that you can get away with the process - keep in mind that the UNIX program doesn't respond to your mouse and it can't necessaraly keep up with the paste. Pine and Pico assume that input is coming from the keyboard and you can usually get away with the cut&past game for small pieces, but i certainly wouldn't expect it to be supported. If you need to insert text, the recommended way is to upload either via FTP or modem the text to your home directory and use ^R to insert it. [ End of Jim msg] ----------------- Because i had tried it several times before send the mail, SMALL PIECES do normally work, but a all file go on a endless looping. I think the EOF character is the trable maker CArlos PS: Enjoy FTP :-( ---------------------------------5994268216845 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain From: Carlos PINTO-PEREIRA Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine,soc.culture.portuguese Subject: Copy / Paste from a MAC to PINE or PICO Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 10:04:13 GMT Organization: CERN Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Goog morning If i need to copy a text from my Mac - it goes to the Clipboard - to paste it into Pine on a mail i'm creating with Pico under a Unix server, sometimes the copy goes on a endless loop. I need urgent help. Please mail me Thanks, CArlos ________________________________________________________________________ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ CERN LHC/IAS _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ 1211 Geneve 23 - CH _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ Tel: (022) 767 43 25 _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/_ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ \ _/_/ _/ _/ \ _/ _/ e_mail - Pinto-Pereira@Cern.Ch Url - http://nicewww.cern.ch/~pintopc/welcome.htm "La culture c'est ce qui reste quand on a tout oublie" ________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------5994268216845-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 18:06:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12688; Thu, 22 Feb 96 18:06:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18190; Thu, 22 Feb 96 18:01:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18184; Thu, 22 Feb 96 18:01:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpmnZ-00038TC; Thu, 22 Feb 96 17:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Vickie Banks Subject: Character Sets Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:09:53 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 517 I'm receiving mail from other countries that says it won't display correctly because it was written in another Character set, for example: ISO-2022-JP I can find the spot in configuration where I would change the character set, but when I put a new value in, nothing seems to happen. I suppose this is because we have to get these alternate character sets from somewhere and install them I can't seem to find a source for character sets or instructions for installing them on a UNIX machine though. Could anyone tell me how to do this? Thanks! Vickie Banks H-NET Humanities Online vbanks@h-net.msu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 18:29:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13353; Thu, 22 Feb 96 18:29:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18520; Thu, 22 Feb 96 18:20:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jumbo.ntplx.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18514; Thu, 22 Feb 96 18:20:28 -0800 Received: by ntplx.net (4.1/NETPLEX-2.3.0) id AA20990; Thu, 22 Feb 96 21:20:33 EST Received: by quoin1.quoininc.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpmnP-000FEhC; Thu, 22 Feb 96 20:59 EST Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 20:59:43 -0500 (EST) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: Tim Reed Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: shell possible? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 518 On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Tim Reed wrote: > Is it possible to run a shell command without quitting pine? I haven't > found a way to do this yet. Any help is appreciated. Assuming you're using UNIX, and pine was compiled to allow escaping to the shell, and the option "enable-suspend" is used (... whew ...), you simply enter ^Z. This will put pine in the background and place you back in the shell. To get back to pine you normally enter "fg" (it actually depends on the shell you're using). --- Jean Pierre From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 18:43:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13762; Thu, 22 Feb 96 18:43:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25583; Thu, 22 Feb 96 18:36:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25577; Thu, 22 Feb 96 18:36:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpnKs-00038RC; Thu, 22 Feb 96 18:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brownwm@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (William G. S. Brown) Subject: -debugN files ??? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 22:37:01 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 519 I get several files with the name ".pine-debugN" where N=1,2,3,... I don't know what is causing them to be generated. Does anyone know how to stop these files from being generated? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 19:14:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14755; Thu, 22 Feb 96 19:14:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19203; Thu, 22 Feb 96 19:05:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19197; Thu, 22 Feb 96 19:05:50 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13133; Thu, 22 Feb 96 19:05:49 -0800 X-Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for dlm+postmaster; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 10:56:24 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22330; Thu, 22 Feb 96 10:56:23 -0800 X-Received: from [200.238.123.65] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13774; Thu, 22 Feb 96 10:56:20 -0800 X-Received: from maracatu by recife.softex.br (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA22304; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 15:55:23 -0300 Message-Id: <199602221855.PAA22304@recife.softex.br> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 15:55:24 -0300 From: "0000-Admin(0000)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.12 (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help with Pop3 forsolris 2.4 X-Url: http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/pine-info/95.01/msg00010.html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 19:05:43 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Subject: Resent-Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 520 HI, We'd like to install the pop3 server in Sun solaris 2.4 and We don't have a gcc compiler. Where can I get the binary version? Best regards, Afonso Bione afonso@recife.softex.br Recife Pernaumbuco - Brazil Phone:55814235535 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 20:14:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16139; Thu, 22 Feb 96 20:14:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20100; Thu, 22 Feb 96 20:06:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20094; Thu, 22 Feb 96 20:06:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpoh6-00038RC; Thu, 22 Feb 96 20:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pegboy@gti.net ( ) Subject: Re: Sig problem Date: 23 Feb 1996 00:24:43 GMT Message-Id: <4gj1gb$agj@gti.gti.net> References: <4gcerg$4c5@bs33n.staffs.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 521 I noticed that even with the sig-at-bottom checked, it will still be at the top... ...so, I just made my .sig with quite a few empty lines above the actual sig itself.... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 21:26:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18066; Thu, 22 Feb 96 21:26:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28062; Thu, 22 Feb 96 21:18:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from baker.cnw.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28055; Thu, 22 Feb 96 21:18:10 -0800 Received: (from alm@localhost) by baker.cnw.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA23379; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 21:11:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 21:11:55 -0800 (PST) From: Al Messina Subject: How to up-load to Pine ? To: Pine Worldwide Info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 522 As a user of CNW.com I have access to Internet e-mail through University of Washington PINE. I handle only ASCII files in DOS; my communication software, pcANYWHERE, allows for up-loading. When wanting to send a long message, I have to compose it on line, wasting Pine connection time. How can I up-load an ASCII file to /home/mail/username/mail, a directory in the UoW system, *before connecting to Pine*, so that I can attach it to Pine out-going message ? Thank you for attention Al Messina From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 22 23:49:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20625; Thu, 22 Feb 96 23:49:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00100; Thu, 22 Feb 96 23:46:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29995; Thu, 22 Feb 96 23:46:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tps9V-00038RC; Thu, 22 Feb 96 23:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nevin Kapur Subject: Re: Suspending Pine In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 03:47:10 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 523 On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, Rasheed Baqai wrote: > Does this work with every version of Pine? What does fg stand for? > > Rasheed > I know that it works with 3.87 too. fg stands for foreground as opposed to bg for background. Nevin. *----------------------------------------------------------------------------* NEVIN KAPUR | Electrical Engineering | Indian Institute of Technology, Bombay INTERNET http://ee.iitb.ernet.in/~nevin , nevin@ee.iitb.ernet.in SNAILMAIL C/20 Garib Society,5th NS Road,JVPD Scheme Bombay,400 049.INDIA PHONE 628 1091, 624 0272 *----------------------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 23 00:25:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21367; Fri, 23 Feb 96 00:25:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23419; Fri, 23 Feb 96 00:22:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23411; Fri, 23 Feb 96 00:21:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpskd-00038TC; Fri, 23 Feb 96 00:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rasheed Baqai Subject: Re: "to" rather than "from" in index Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:46:04 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4ghvnj$4vd@epic38.dep.state.fl.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4ghvnj$4vd@epic38.dep.state.fl.us> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 524 On 22 Feb 1996 youland_j@dep.state.fl.us wrote: > When I send messages to listserv groups or myself, my inbox index shows, > "To: listserv name", rather than indicating that it's from > my name. I'm using Pine 3.1 and have tried various SETUP/CONFIGURE > settings. > > Where have I gone wrong -- or at least not gone right : - ) ? > TIA jeanxyz@freenet.scri.fsu.edu > Don't worry, on their side it will show your name (or whatever you had in that field) on their side. Any mail that has the from of you on your side will show the to side instead! Whether or not it is in your sent-mail or Inbox. Another interesting pine quirk. Rasheed --- R a B s a rbaqai@uci.edu h q http://www.ics.uci.edu/~rbaqai/ e a University of California, Irvine-Information & Computer Science e i d From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 23 03:47:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25512; Fri, 23 Feb 96 03:47:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25730; Fri, 23 Feb 96 03:39:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bile.univ-angers.fr by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25724; Fri, 23 Feb 96 03:39:50 -0800 Received: from bule.univ-angers.fr ([193.52.42.134]) by bule.univ-angers.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA24833 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 1995 13:45:24 +0100 Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 13:45:24 +0100 Message-Id: <199502231245.NAA24833@bule.univ-angers.fr> X-Sender: marsault@bule.univ-angers.fr X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: marsault@bule.univ-angers.fr (anthony marsault) Subject: plus d'info Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 525 j'aimerai avoir si possibles des informations sur des personnes ou m=EAmes= des e-mail sur des personnes qui habite l'ouest de la france From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 23 03:58:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25778; Fri, 23 Feb 96 03:58:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02972; Fri, 23 Feb 96 03:52:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02966; Fri, 23 Feb 96 03:52:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tpw0F-00038RC; Fri, 23 Feb 96 03:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Seth Rogovoy Subject: Signature Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 19:43:48 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 526 Sorry. I know this is a FAQ, but I looked through Pine Help, Release notes and the Robot and couldn't find what I need anywhere. Plus I fiddled with Config and still couldn't produce a signature at the end of my messages. Can anyone tell me, in plain English, the steps I need to take to create a signature at the end of my messages? thanks, seth From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 23 07:05:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00598; Fri, 23 Feb 96 07:05:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05440; Fri, 23 Feb 96 06:50:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lbbc.lb.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05434; Fri, 23 Feb 96 06:50:54 -0800 Received: by lbbc.lb.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA114626; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 08:48:13 -0600 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 08:48:12 -0600 (CST) From: Kim Scarborough To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Accessing newsgroups from a remote server (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 527 Hi... I sent this before, but I didn't get a response, at least personally. I'm subscribing now, so you don't have to send it just to me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "In a democracy, people get the kind of government they deserve." -Adlai Stevenson ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 13:13:29 -0600 (CST) From: Kim Scarborough To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Accessing newsgroups from a remote server I know you guys have probably had a few people ask this question already, so please forgive the redundancy. I use Pine at my work. It works fine for E-mail, but the server here doesn't get any newsgroups. I have an account at a university server which does have newsgroups, but it's awkward to telnet there and use their Pine. I tried setting the "nntp-server" with the server address, the same I have Netscape set to when I'm using it to get news (but I use Netscape through a PPP connection to the University server, so I'm already logged on), and it tells me "invalid remote specification". This makes a certain amount of sense, because I need a login name and a password to get to my university account, and I haven't told Pine what those are. How do I configure this? I have a hunch it has something to do with the "news-collections" setting, which I haven't messed with. Can anyone help? Please respond to me personally, because I don't subscribe to this mailing list. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "In a democracy, people get the kind of government they deserve." -Adlai Stevenson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 23 07:07:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00661; Fri, 23 Feb 96 07:07:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28188; Fri, 23 Feb 96 06:53:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs.stritch.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28182; Fri, 23 Feb 96 06:53:23 -0800 Received: by acs.stritch.edu; id AA29046; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 08:53:44 -0600 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 08:53:44 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Esten To: Seth Rogovoy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Signature In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 528 > notes and the Robot and couldn't find what I need anywhere. Plus I > fiddled with Config and still couldn't produce a signature at the end of > my messages. > > Can anyone tell me, in plain English, the steps I need to take to > create a signature at the end of my messages? ....here we go again.... Automatic Signatures: Pine will automatically append a signature file to your messages if it finds a file named .signature (that's "dot signature") in your home directory. To create the signature, drop to the unix shell prompt and start up your favorite editor (probably pico if you're a pine user..) like this: pico .signature You should be in famililar looking territory now. Compose your signature just like you compose mail. Tradition, nettiquette, and some news readers "encourage" you to keep your signature down to 4 lines so let your conscience be your guide there... When you are finished, press ^X (control X, not apple-X for Mac users who may not have ever used the control key before because Mac programs tend not to use it..). You are asked whether to save, just say yes. Do not change the name. The next message you compose will have the signature automatically. One other thing you may need to do is go into the pine config (if your local admin hasn't disabled setup) and check the signature-at-bottom option, but many admins make it a default. Hope it helps. Jim Jim Esten (temporarily between .sigs) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 23 08:40:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03353; Fri, 23 Feb 96 08:40:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29741; Fri, 23 Feb 96 08:22:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29735; Fri, 23 Feb 96 08:22:29 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19421; Fri, 23 Feb 96 08:22:24 -0800 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 08:22:24 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Rasheed Baqai Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "to" rather than "from" in index In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 529 > Don't worry, on their side it will show your name (or whatever you had in > that field) on their side. Any mail that has the from of you on your > side will show the to side instead! Whether or not it is in your > sent-mail or Inbox. Another interesting pine quirk. ^^^^^ Rasheed, Around here we call that "Another interesting pine *feature*" :) :) -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 23 09:38:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06612; Fri, 23 Feb 96 09:38:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01621; Fri, 23 Feb 96 09:22:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from maki.wwa.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01613; Fri, 23 Feb 96 09:22:24 -0800 Received: from miso.wwa.com by maki.wwa.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tq1CH-000raPC; Fri, 23 Feb 96 11:22 CST Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 11:22:20 -0600 (CST) From: Dan Roy To: Al Messina Cc: Pine Worldwide Info Subject: Re: How to up-load to Pine ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 530 On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Al Messina wrote: > > When wanting to send a long message, I have to compose it on line, > wasting Pine connection time. > > How can I up-load an ASCII file to /home/mail/username/mail, a > directory in the UoW system, *before connecting to Pine*, so that I can > attach it to Pine out-going message ? > Well, from your unix prompt just start an upload like you normally would in your particular software. You probably can't use pageup if your using vt100 or 102 since that is used for the terminal. However, most of the good communications software out there has an alternative for starting uploads. Anyway, once you have started the upload process, you should be prompted for a protocall and then the file name to upload, type in the filename and the upload should be initiated. Once the file is on your server, go in to pine and hit c for compose. After you have given the message a subject, in the body of the message type ctrl-r and give pine the filename. Pine will import the file right in to the message, hit ctrl-x and y to confirm sending the message, all done. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 23 10:12:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07998; Fri, 23 Feb 96 10:12:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02546; Fri, 23 Feb 96 09:58:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02539; Fri, 23 Feb 96 09:58:15 -0800 Received: from [147.51.81.83] by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25603; Fri, 23 Feb 96 09:58:07 -0800 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 96 12:49:10 EST Message-Id: <9602231249.AA09792@wcd083r> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "G. David Lippert" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 531 subscribe pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 23 12:13:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14277; Fri, 23 Feb 96 12:13:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05997; Fri, 23 Feb 96 12:03:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05991; Fri, 23 Feb 96 12:03:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tq3h3-00038FC; Fri, 23 Feb 96 12:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ee_allo@uxmail.ust.hk (Allo Hui) Subject: Ctrl Characters Date: 23 Feb 1996 17:55:37 GMT Message-Id: <4gkv2p$kpf@ustsu10.ust.hk> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 532 I can't use Ctrl X or Ctrl O within Pine as I think the terminal server getting some problem.(I can use them when telnet but can't when I dial-in) So, I try to use 'pine -k' to use function instead. However, I can only use F(1-4) but not F(5-12). Anyone here can give me another alternative to this condition?? Or, any solution to the above problems?? -- Hui Shun Chau, Allofs [ ³\¦Ä¦à ] | ee_allo@uxmail.ust.hk Students' Internet Society, HKUST | allo@susis.ust.hk Year 3, Dept of EEE, HKUST | allo@dmc093.ust.hk URL http://susis.ust.hk/~allo | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 23 14:02:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19245; Fri, 23 Feb 96 14:02:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09022; Fri, 23 Feb 96 13:56:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mach1.wlu.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09014; Fri, 23 Feb 96 13:56:28 -0800 Received: by mach1.wlu.ca (5.65/1.35) id AA24906; Fri, 23 Feb 96 16:54:35 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 16:54:34 -0500 (EST) From: Neal Santin u Subject: Re: shell possible? To: Dan Roy Cc: Tim Reed , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 533 I'm assuming you can use Z in v3.89 but I can't seem to find the option in the .pinerc file. Where should I be looking? Thanks. On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Dan Roy wrote: > > > On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Tim Reed wrote: > > > Is it possible to run a shell command without quitting pine? I haven't > > found a way to do this yet. Any help is appreciated. > Tim, yes and no you can't run a true shell, but you don't need too. you > can suspend the operation of pine by pressing ctrl-z, then, when your > ready to come back type: FG. this will cause pine to resume operation > exactly where you left it. Now, you must first go in to pine > configuration and activate the suspend pine option. I hope this helps.> > ======================================================================== > > Tim Reed > > rpgw30@email.sps.mot.com > > ======================================================================== > > If you think there is good in everyone, you haven't met everyone > > ======================================================================== > > > > > L8tr, Neal ---- Sant2240@mach1.wlu.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 23 14:09:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19622; Fri, 23 Feb 96 14:09:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08895; Fri, 23 Feb 96 13:53:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08886; Fri, 23 Feb 96 13:53:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tq5OK-00038FC; Fri, 23 Feb 96 13:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "FPJPC@MHFP.SWMED.EDU" Subject: Re: Online status via email request (Re: Help) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 16:22:49 CST Message-Id: References: <4g80hu$s30@fu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4g80hu$s30@fu-berlin.de> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 534 Itried the directions but didn't get an answer from "postmaster' nor an error message. I am a complete novice. Is it possible that there is no one in charge. Pine on our system is almost totally unused. It was only by accident that I found it a week ago. Is there some way I can find out other users in my division? I think on list-serv i used a review command to get a list of subscribers. 18 Feb 1996, Sven Guckes wrote: > "Randy R. Ringnlada" writes: > >Is it possible in pine to find out when a certain user has been online? > >RRingnald@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu > > Send mail to "postmaster@host.domain" with subject "loginstat username", eg: > > To: postmaster@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu > Subject: loginstat ringnald > > Btw, there are two errors in your post: > 1) You mipselt your name ("Ringnlada" instead of "Ringnalda"). > 2) You mispllt your address ("RRingnald" instead of "ringnald"). > > HTH. > > Sven > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 23 14:36:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21247; Fri, 23 Feb 96 14:36:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17336; Fri, 23 Feb 96 14:18:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17330; Fri, 23 Feb 96 14:18:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tq5kZ-00038FC; Fri, 23 Feb 96 14:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gilberto Jose W Teixeira Subject: Re: PROBLEM: "Y" prints screen instead of message Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 08:49:13 -0300 Message-Id: References: <4fasia$a6a@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 535 I have a problem when using the command "Y" (print) on PINE:it doesn't work! I am using my computer connected by telephone line to my university with a FAX-MODEM with 14400 speed.The mail service always worked well but when I wanted to print a message (specially the long messages) the print command (Y) answered :printing followed by "print completed" but the printer didn't print anything! The people of my host (university) ,when consulted,advised myself to use the first alternative on the menu SETUP of the PINE.It didn't worked either! I will appreciate any instructions to solve that problem. Gilberto Teixeira (gjwteixe@spider.usp.br ) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 23 15:07:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22874; Fri, 23 Feb 96 15:07:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18677; Fri, 23 Feb 96 14:59:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18664; Fri, 23 Feb 96 14:59:22 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09930; Fri, 23 Feb 96 14:58:59 -0800 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 14:58:57 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Mike Brudenell Cc: Erik Johansen , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Blinking text In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 536 On Mon, 19 Feb 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > On Fri, 16 Feb 1996, Erik Johansen wrote: > > > Is there a way to make Pine not show this kind of escape characters etc. > > > > In one of the newsgroups I have had my screen lock up several times > > because of a person that uses escape sequences in his From: address. > > I asked about this a while back on this list. I seem to recall that Pine > 3.92 will contain some enhancement/changes to suppress the display of > such "problem" characters. > Correct. In Pine 3.92, such control characters will be filtered out unless you select the pass-control-characters-as-is feature... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 23 15:29:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24025; Fri, 23 Feb 96 15:29:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19413; Fri, 23 Feb 96 15:18:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19405; Fri, 23 Feb 96 15:18:56 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10565; Fri, 23 Feb 96 15:18:49 -0800 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 15:18:45 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Donny Lee Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pico config? In-Reply-To: <4gei02$28n@netnews.hinet.net> Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 537 On 21 Feb 1996, Donny Lee wrote: > Paul O Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) wrote: > : > Hello, I'm new using pine and pico, and tring to find a > : > newsgroup talking about pico, but no luck. Could somebody > : > point me a place to go? Or I can have the question, as title, > : Pico as such (apart from Pine) is an editor, and there is a newsgroup > : dedicated to editors: comp.editors . I follow it, and occasionally Pico > : questions come up. > Hmmm... I don't think any of the Pine Team (developers of Pico) hang out on comp.editors, so this (comp.mail.pine) newsgroup may be a better place to ask your questions... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 23 15:38:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24569; Fri, 23 Feb 96 15:38:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11839; Fri, 23 Feb 96 15:28:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11833; Fri, 23 Feb 96 15:28:45 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11487; Fri, 23 Feb 96 15:28:22 -0800 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 15:28:20 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: "Mihai T. LAZARESCU" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Bug (ID 3F1E4): while accessing POP3 VMS INBOX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 538 On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, Mihai T. LAZARESCU wrote: > I encountered a tough opposition when trying to connect from UNIX pine > to a VMS INBOX. Here are the facts. If you have ANY clue please let > me know; I've ran out of ideas... > > I have pine 3.91 installed under UNIX (SunOS 4.1.3) and works great! > > The trouble comes when one of my colleagues tries opening its VMS > INBOX using pine under UNIX and VMS POP3 (i.e. opening the folder: > {polclu/pop3}INBOX). Invariably pine fails for him with: > > Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". > There were some bugs in the pop3 driver included in Pine 3.91. Have you tried re-compiling with the latest IMAP-3.6 distribution? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 23 19:05:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02808; Fri, 23 Feb 96 19:05:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16623; Fri, 23 Feb 96 18:59:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16617; Fri, 23 Feb 96 18:59:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqABo-00038FC; Fri, 23 Feb 96 18:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nevin Kapur Subject: Re: Sig problem In-Reply-To: <4gj1gb$agj@gti.gti.net> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <4gcerg$4c5@bs33n.staffs.ac.uk> <4gj1gb$agj@gti.gti.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 00:30:08 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 539 On 23 Feb 1996 pegboy@gti.net wrote: > > > I noticed that even with the sig-at-bottom checked, it will still be at > the top... > ...so, I just made my .sig with quite a few empty lines above the actual > sig itself.... > > The sig will appear at the top when you are forwarding mails. I don't think there is any way of getting around that. However if you enable sig-at-bottom, the sig will appear at the bottom when you include the original message in a reply. Nevin. Nevin Kapur | Electrical Engineering | Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay INTERNET http://ee.iitb.ernet.in/~nevin , nevin@ee.iitb.ernet.in MAIL C/20 Garib Society,5th NS Road,JVPD Scheme Bombay,400 049.India PHONE 628 1091, 624 0272 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 23 21:24:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05876; Fri, 23 Feb 96 21:24:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18425; Fri, 23 Feb 96 21:18:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs.stritch.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18419; Fri, 23 Feb 96 21:18:00 -0800 Received: by acs.stritch.edu; id AA17836; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 23:18:18 -0600 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 23:18:18 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Esten To: Allo Hui Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Ctrl Characters In-Reply-To: <4gkv2p$kpf@ustsu10.ust.hk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 540 > I can't use Ctrl X or Ctrl O within Pine as I think the terminal server > getting some problem.(I can use them when telnet but can't when I dial-in) > So, I try to use 'pine -k' to use function instead. However, I can only > use F(1-4) but not F(5-12). Anyone here can give me another alternative > to this condition?? Or, any solution to the above problems?? > ...it sounds like your terminal server has those key combinations reserved for something else. The DecServer 700 I know from experience by default uses Ctrl-X to clear the command buffer. These combinations CAN be reconfigured in the terminal server so by all means pressure your sys admin to take action. Jim Jim Esten (temporarily between .sigs) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 23 22:34:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06798; Fri, 23 Feb 96 22:34:20 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27303; Fri, 23 Feb 96 22:29:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27297; Fri, 23 Feb 96 22:29:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqDPr-00038FC; Fri, 23 Feb 96 22:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Squeaky Wheel Subject: Re: date-sensitive signature file Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 21:08:15 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 541 Can you send it to me too? Thanks - Michelle (tcarter@willamette.edu) On Fri, 23 Feb 1996, Sheng-hsuan Wu wrote: > Andrew Certain (certain@cs.washington.edu) wrote: > > On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Choi wrote: > > > I insert a different quote automatically whenever I send a message. It's > > little involved, but I can send you the info (or post it if people are > > interested). It works under UNIX. I imagine that you can adapt it for > > other operating systems. > > can you please? post it or send it to me via email that is. thanks > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 24 00:28:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08681; Sat, 24 Feb 96 00:28:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20754; Sat, 24 Feb 96 00:25:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20748; Sat, 24 Feb 96 00:25:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqFGA-00038FC; Sat, 24 Feb 96 00:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: philz@shellx.best.com (Philip Zeyliger) Subject: Re: shell possible? Date: 22 Feb 1996 17:32:23 -0800 Message-Id: <4gj5f7$8cl@shellx.best.com> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 542 Tim Reed (reed@pzdb2.sps.mot.com) wrote: > Is it possible to run a shell command without quitting pine? I haven't > found a way to do this yet. Any help is appreciated. You can suspend pine, use the shell, and then type "fg" to go back to pine. The regular suspend key is ctrl-Z (^Z). It has to be enabled in one of the options. -- Philip Zeyliger -- ,'^\ _ _ _ _ _ ,-----------------------------. ; :.\ Philip Zeyliger | |/// \| U ||| |On all Internet Chess Servers| \ \ ~ philz@best.com | (( o ) ||o\ /) telnet ics.onenet.net 5000 | [___] |_|\\\_/|_n_||_/ '-----------------------------' From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 24 00:28:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08697; Sat, 24 Feb 96 00:28:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28918; Sat, 24 Feb 96 00:25:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28912; Sat, 24 Feb 96 00:25:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqFGA-00038TC; Sat, 24 Feb 96 00:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Relkin@community.net Subject: reception problems on the internet Date: 23 Feb 1996 04:23:20 GMT Message-Id: <4gjffp$82l@oracle.damerica.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 543 Would someone please email me the steps to make my pine (under linux 1.2.13) receive email while it is connected to the internet? Currently, I log in and can send mail from my machine over the internet (via my dynamic PPP connect), but I cannot receive it. It still goes to my ISP's machine, and is never retrieved by pine. Suggestions? relkin@community.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 24 02:15:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11047; Sat, 24 Feb 96 02:15:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22095; Sat, 24 Feb 96 02:10:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22089; Sat, 24 Feb 96 02:10:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqGsR-00038FC; Sat, 24 Feb 96 02:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: left@www4.clever.net (EXPERT SPORTS) Subject: EXPERT SPORTS ANALYSTS Date: 24 Feb 1996 08:32:22 GMT Message-Id: <4gmiem$19a5@hearst.cac.psu.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 544 EXPERT SPORTS ANALYSTS Best Picks in the Country Pro and College Games 1-900-454-0110 ext 245 $ 2.95/min Avg 4 min 18+ Avalon Comm (305) 525-0800 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 24 07:44:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16183; Sat, 24 Feb 96 07:44:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03984; Sat, 24 Feb 96 07:35:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03978; Sat, 24 Feb 96 07:35:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqM0G-00038FC; Sat, 24 Feb 96 07:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Alexei Nogin Subject: Re: Receipting messages in Pine Date: 21 Feb 1996 17:21:43 GMT Message-Id: <4gfkb7$20d@mx.iki.rssi.ru> References: <4g38cs$ktc@sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 545 summers@deakin.edu.au (JONATHAN CHARLES SUMMERS) wrote: >I have looked but can't find out how to add a receipt to a message, or in >other words get a receipt for a message that has been delivered. Add a value to customized-hdrs - Return-Receipt-To: summers@deakin.edu.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 24 08:11:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16895; Sat, 24 Feb 96 08:11:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26097; Sat, 24 Feb 96 08:05:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26091; Sat, 24 Feb 96 08:05:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqMPz-00038FC; Sat, 24 Feb 96 08:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jon Cohodas Subject: Killfiles: A partial solution Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 06:36:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 546 As a followup to my previous post, I have found a partial solution to killing files. You can use the group and apply stuff to kill very long threads. I have a macro (any chance that new versions might allow user-defined macros?) that kills the selected thread: ;ts^X^Mad;a Where ^X is CTRL X, ^M is CTRL M From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 24 09:01:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17940; Sat, 24 Feb 96 09:01:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26791; Sat, 24 Feb 96 08:53:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mach1.wlu.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26785; Sat, 24 Feb 96 08:53:28 -0800 Received: by mach1.wlu.ca (5.65/1.35) id AA24316; Sat, 24 Feb 96 11:51:44 -0500 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 11:51:43 -0500 (EST) From: Neal Santin u Subject: Re: Online status via email request (Re: Help) To: "FPJPC@MHFP.SWMED.EDU" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 547 On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, FPJPC@MHFP.SWMED.EDU wrote: > Itried the directions but didn't get an answer from "postmaster' nor an Same here, I sent the mail and I too did not get a response. > error message. I am a complete novice. Is it possible that there is no one > in charge. Pine on our system is almost totally unused. It was only by > accident that I found it a week ago. Is there some way I can find out > other users in my division? I think on list-serv i used a review command > to get a list of subscribers. 18 Feb 1996, Sven Guckes wrote: > > > "Randy R. Ringnlada" writes: > > >Is it possible in pine to find out when a certain user has been online? > > >RRingnald@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu > > > > Send mail to "postmaster@host.domain" with subject "loginstat username", eg: > > > > To: postmaster@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu > > Subject: loginstat ringnald > > > > Btw, there are two errors in your post: > > 1) You mipselt your name ("Ringnlada" instead of "Ringnalda"). > > 2) You mispllt your address ("RRingnald" instead of "ringnald"). > > > > HTH. > > > > Sven > > > > > L8tr, Neal ---- Sant2240@mach1.wlu.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 24 09:03:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17993; Sat, 24 Feb 96 09:03:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26825; Sat, 24 Feb 96 08:56:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mach1.wlu.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26819; Sat, 24 Feb 96 08:56:22 -0800 Received: by mach1.wlu.ca (5.65/1.35) id AA24612; Sat, 24 Feb 96 11:55:02 -0500 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 11:55:01 -0500 (EST) From: Neal Santin u Subject: Re: PROBLEM: "Y" prints screen instead of message To: Gilberto Jose W Teixeira Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 548 On Sat, 17 Feb 1996, Gilberto Jose W Teixeira wrote: > I have a problem when using the command "Y" (print) on PINE:it > doesn't work! > I am using my computer connected by telephone line to my university > with a FAX-MODEM with 14400 speed.The mail service always worked well > but when I wanted to print a message (specially the long messages) > the print command (Y) answered :printing followed by "print > completed" but the printer didn't print anything! Are you trying to print to your home printer? Because this will not work, if you choose y to print it will print to the school's (default) printer. If you want to print the message at home either capture the text or export the file to your filespace then upload it. > The people of my host (university) ,when consulted,advised myself > to use the first alternative on the menu SETUP of the PINE.It > didn't worked either! > I will appreciate any instructions to solve that problem. > Gilberto Teixeira (gjwteixe@spider.usp.br ) > L8tr, Neal ---- Sant2240@mach1.wlu.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 24 09:26:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18469; Sat, 24 Feb 96 09:26:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26870; Sat, 24 Feb 96 08:59:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mach1.wlu.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26864; Sat, 24 Feb 96 08:59:32 -0800 Received: by mach1.wlu.ca (5.65/1.35) id AA24806; Sat, 24 Feb 96 11:58:09 -0500 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 11:58:08 -0500 (EST) From: Neal Santin u Subject: Re: date-sensitive signature file To: Squeaky Wheel Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 549 you might as well just post it to the list! On Fri, 23 Feb 1996, Squeaky Wheel wrote: > > Can you send it to me too? > > Thanks > - Michelle (tcarter@willamette.edu) > > On Fri, 23 Feb 1996, Sheng-hsuan Wu wrote: > > > Andrew Certain (certain@cs.washington.edu) wrote: > > > On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Choi wrote: > > > > > I insert a different quote automatically whenever I send a message. It's > > > little involved, but I can send you the info (or post it if people are > > > interested). It works under UNIX. I imagine that you can adapt it for > > > other operating systems. > > > > can you please? post it or send it to me via email that is. thanks > > > L8tr, Neal ---- Sant2240@mach1.wlu.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 24 11:10:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20700; Sat, 24 Feb 96 11:10:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06782; Sat, 24 Feb 96 11:01:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from spider.cs.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06776; Sat, 24 Feb 96 11:01:40 -0800 Received: (certain@localhost) by spider.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) id LAA18694; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 11:01:37 -0800 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 11:01:36 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Certain To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: EXPERT SPORTS ANALYSTS Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 550 In case you are interested, this ad came from a company who uses an "Internet Mall, " called Clever Computers, Inc. Their contact point is root@clever.net. The ISP is Random Access, Inc., who can be reached at www@randomc.com. Also, I will post the changing .sig file stuff soon. __________________Andrew_Certain_(certain@cs.washington.edu)___________________ Science is to computer science as hydrodynamics is to plumbing. -- Stan Kelly-Bootle, "Computer Language," Oct 90 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 24 11:39:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21447; Sat, 24 Feb 96 11:39:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07130; Sat, 24 Feb 96 11:27:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from spider.cs.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07124; Sat, 24 Feb 96 11:27:08 -0800 Received: (certain@localhost) by spider.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) id LAA14897; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 11:27:06 -0800 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 11:27:05 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Certain To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: EXPERT SPORTS ANALYSTS In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 551 After reading news.admin.net-abuse.misc, I think that this mail was forged, and people are already looking into what happened. Sorry for the bad pointer. __________________Andrew_Certain_(certain@cs.washington.edu)___________________ I never believed in Santa Claus because I knew no white dude would come into my neighborhood after dark. -- Dick Gregory From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 24 14:03:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24513; Sat, 24 Feb 96 14:03:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08922; Sat, 24 Feb 96 13:46:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08916; Sat, 24 Feb 96 13:46:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqRnC-00038FC; Sat, 24 Feb 96 13:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shenghsu@cloudburst.seas.ucla.edu (Sheng-hsuan Wu) Subject: Re: date-sensitive signature file Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 08:49:25 GMT References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 552 Andrew Certain (certain@cs.washington.edu) wrote: > On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Choi wrote: > I insert a different quote automatically whenever I send a message. It's > little involved, but I can send you the info (or post it if people are > interested). It works under UNIX. I imagine that you can adapt it for > other operating systems. can you please? post it or send it to me via email that is. thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 24 14:39:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25302; Sat, 24 Feb 96 14:39:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01054; Sat, 24 Feb 96 14:26:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01048; Sat, 24 Feb 96 14:26:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqSPC-00038FC; Sat, 24 Feb 96 14:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mgoldste@mason2.gmu.edu (Mathew E Goldstein) Subject: Re: date-sensitive signature file Date: 24 Feb 1996 18:07:35 GMT Message-Id: <4gnk57$r1k@portal.gmu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 553 Choi (yontaek@U.arizona.edu) wrote: : Hi, : Is it possible to have a date-sensitive signature file? : I mean, can I put a date in my signature file, and make it change : according to the actual date of the message to be sent? If you run pine on UNIX, and are willing to settle for a new signature with each login rather than a new signature file for every e-mail letter sent, then something like the following works. There is a program called fortune which displays a different quote each time it is run. Create a file, in this case I call it .sig, that contains the constant part of your signature file. Then add the following two lines to your .login file: fortune | tee fortune.txt cat fortune.txt .sig > .signature Unfortunately, you get somewhat less than profound and relevant quotes like this: We have found all life forms in the galaxy are capable of superior development. -- Kirk, "The Gamesters of Triskelion", stardate 3211.7 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Finger for public PGP key. Visit my home page. http://www.gmu.edu/~mgoldste From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 24 14:44:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25482; Sat, 24 Feb 96 14:44:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09330; Sat, 24 Feb 96 14:16:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09324; Sat, 24 Feb 96 14:16:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqSFI-00038FC; Sat, 24 Feb 96 14:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aaab@acs.ryerson.ca (Al Aab - CNED/W94) Subject: . marking text does not work Date: 24 Feb 1996 18:26:26 GMT Message-Id: <4gnl8i$dta@ns2.ryerson.ca> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 554 in pine, or pico, the help claims u can mark text thusly control ^ at my university, this works on some teminls ( the PC's or the x-terminals, forgot which ones.) but not on other terminals. the real problem is at home, connecting to university via modem. the home setup is : a PC an old version of kermit communication software (same at the university) & pine ( or pico ) --------- the university gurus, like some doctors, blame the patient/victim. help ! --- feel free to email me. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 24 14:59:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25862; Sat, 24 Feb 96 14:59:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09769; Sat, 24 Feb 96 14:46:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09762; Sat, 24 Feb 96 14:46:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqShM-00038TC; Sat, 24 Feb 96 14:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pschoenb@composer.mayn.de (Patrick Schoenbach) Subject: How to change the quotation-header? Message-Id: Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 18:24:09 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 555 Hello, is it possible to change the header, that is included, when I quote a mail? Thanks for your help. -- Patrick Schönbach ----------------------------------- E-Mail: pschoenb@composer.mayn.de ----------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 24 18:12:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00617; Sat, 24 Feb 96 18:12:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04280; Sat, 24 Feb 96 18:07:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vm1.NoDak.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04268; Sat, 24 Feb 96 18:07:19 -0800 Received: from orca.fhcrc.org by VM1.NoDak.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 24 Feb 96 20:07:08 CST Received: by orca.fhcrc.org (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA73431; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 18:07:16 -0800 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 18:07:15 -0800 (PST) From: Brent Blumenstein To: Jim Esten Cc: Bill Fryman , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Printing from Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 556 Funny - it works quite well qith my Deskjet 500. I use pine for AIX from a PC with OS/2 Warp Connect. It has also worked well with previous versions of OS/2. -- Brent A. Blumenstein | tel.: 206 667 4623 Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center | fax: 206 667 4408 1124 Columbia Street MP-557 | e-mail: brentb@orca.fhcrc.org Seattle, WA 98104 USA | On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Jim Esten wrote: > > ansi does does work well with any ink jet printers. You'll do far better > > ^^^^^^^^^^^ > > I meant to say "does not"! > > Sorry all, had a brutally slow connection and didn't take the time to > reread what I had written! > > > to just connect printers on the unix network and use unix printing. It > > works perfectly out of pine. > > > > Jim Esten > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 24 19:27:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01832; Sat, 24 Feb 96 19:27:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05154; Sat, 24 Feb 96 19:18:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hopper.acs.ryerson.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05148; Sat, 24 Feb 96 19:18:23 -0800 Received: by hopper.acs.ryerson.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA94748; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 22:15:43 -0500 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 22:15:43 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Ribeiro To: Al Aab - CNED/W94 Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: . marking text does not work In-Reply-To: <4gnl8i$dta@ns2.ryerson.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 557 On 24 Feb 1996, Al Aab - CNED/W94 wrote: > the help claims u can mark text thusly > control ^ . . . > an old version of kermit communication software (same at the university) you need to use esc-esc-shift-6 /P From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 24 19:33:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02024; Sat, 24 Feb 96 19:33:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05122; Sat, 24 Feb 96 19:17:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05116; Sat, 24 Feb 96 19:17:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqWtP-00038FC; Sat, 24 Feb 96 19:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roland@ (roland) Subject: Using pine Date: 23 Feb 96 14:19:57 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 558 Hi, my question is rather simple. I can access the Mailserver of my provider only with a login-id and a password. This works well with eudora under WINDOWS. Can I use pine in such a case too? Roland Cruesemann (roland@vxdesy.desy.de) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 24 21:12:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03814; Sat, 24 Feb 96 21:12:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06506; Sat, 24 Feb 96 21:04:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [129.179.17.11] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06500; Sat, 24 Feb 96 21:04:42 -0800 Received: from localhost by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 25 Feb 96 13:04:12 +0800 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 13:04:10 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Neal Santin u Cc: "FPJPC@MHFP.SWMED.EDU" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Online status via email request (Re: Help) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 559 On Sat, 24 Feb 1996, Neal Santin u wrote: > On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, FPJPC@MHFP.SWMED.EDU wrote: > > > Itried the directions but didn't get an answer from "postmaster' nor an > > Same here, I sent the mail and I too did not get a response. > > > error message. I am a complete novice. Is it possible that there is no one > > in charge. Pine on our system is almost totally unused. It was only by > > accident that I found it a week ago. Is there some way I can find out > > other users in my division? I think on list-serv i used a review command > > to get a list of subscribers. 18 Feb 1996, Sven Guckes wrote: > > > > > "Randy R. Ringnlada" writes: > > > >Is it possible in pine to find out when a certain user has been online? > > > >RRingnald@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu > > > > > > Send mail to "postmaster@host.domain" with subject "loginstat username", eg: > > > > > > To: postmaster@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu > > > Subject: loginstat ringnald > > > > > > Btw, there are two errors in your post: > > > 1) You mipselt your name ("Ringnlada" instead of "Ringnalda"). > > > 2) You mispllt your address ("RRingnald" instead of "ringnald"). > > > > > > HTH. > > > > > > Sven > > > > > > > > Ahhh.....you have to be careful about what some people post. In some cases what they say will only work at their sites. In other cases there are some people who enjoy posting information which is somewhat sarcastic but will be taken seriously by the novice user. There is no "universal" method to determine who/if/when others may have logged on to a particular system. Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 24 22:23:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05089; Sat, 24 Feb 96 22:23:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07298; Sat, 24 Feb 96 22:12:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07292; Sat, 24 Feb 96 22:12:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqZgQ-00038TC; Sat, 24 Feb 96 22:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Luz Abril Torres Mendez Subject: What is the xxx code to build Pine 3.91 on HP 8.05? Date: 23 Feb 1996 16:43:40 GMT Message-Id: <4gkqrs$pef@hp.fciencias.unam.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 560 I would like to install Pine on HP with HPUX8.05 operating system, but I don't know what is the xxx code to build it. How you remember the xxx is the plataform where Pine is going to install. Thanks in advance, Abril From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 24 22:31:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05258; Sat, 24 Feb 96 22:31:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15502; Sat, 24 Feb 96 22:12:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15496; Sat, 24 Feb 96 22:12:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqZgQ-00038FC; Sat, 24 Feb 96 22:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: youland_j@dep.state.fl.us (youland_j@dep.state.fl.us) Subject: clarify: "to"/"from" in index Date: 23 Feb 1996 15:25:12 GMT Message-Id: <4gkm8o$joa@epic38.dep.state.fl.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 561 I wasn't clear enough on my problem. Say, I posted to the listserv "bbq" and being a member of the listserv group, "bbq", when the message arrives in my Pine 3.91 index, it reads, "To: bbq". Now, I didn't copy to myself, but only posted to the listserv, who forwarded to me. When other's bbq listserv messages arrive, the "from" column of the index shows "Joe Shmooe" (the author of the message). Do my messages show up in other subscribers' indices as from "jeanxyz"? If this is how it's "'sposed to be'", it's just so messy! xyz From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 24 22:34:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05310; Sat, 24 Feb 96 22:34:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15510; Sat, 24 Feb 96 22:12:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15504; Sat, 24 Feb 96 22:12:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqZgQ-00038UC; Sat, 24 Feb 96 22:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Luz Abril Torres Mendez Subject: What is the xxx code to build Pine 3.91 on HP 8.05? Date: 23 Feb 1996 16:14:54 GMT Message-Id: <4gkp5u$pef@hp.fciencias.unam.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 562 I would like to install Pine on HP with HPUX8.05 operating system, but I don't know what is the xxx code to build it. How you remember the xxx is the plataform where Pine is going to install. Thanks in advance, Abril From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 25 02:10:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09246; Sun, 25 Feb 96 02:10:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09978; Sun, 25 Feb 96 02:07:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ix.ix.netcom.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09972; Sun, 25 Feb 96 02:07:15 -0800 Received: from [152.52.116.129] by ix.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id BAA13914; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 01:37:01 -0800 X-Sender: allison.eng@uwcr.edu (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Reply-To: please.reply.via.fax.to.fax.number.shown@or.via.airmail.to.smail.address.shown Approved: moderator X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 10:41:36 +0900 To: allison.eng11@uwcr.edu From: allison.eng11@uwcr.edu (Allison Eng) Subject: ===>> FREE 1 yr. 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MUST BE TYPED-OUT ON YOUR COMPUTER OR TYPEWRITER. <--- Name: Internet email address: Smail home address: City-State-Zip: Country: Work Tel. #: Work Fax #: Home Tel. #: Home Fax #: How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of the internet that you saw us mentioned in): Referral by: Allison Eng. 022396-l Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail: Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you: Catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"): *------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------* Catalogue Format Options: 1. 19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total). 2. For more advanced computer users: attached text file ~525K - you must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to open it with your word processor. If in doubt, don't ask for this version. This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1 and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how to deal with this option. 3. For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea), ~133K. Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed. You just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands (unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as you still have to know how to deal with an attached file. It will cut your download time by 75%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. 4. For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with Stuffit(tm), ~114K. Can be decompressed by any computer user who has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files. This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your download time by 78%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. Hi fellow 'netters, My name is Allison Eng and I recently started using a magazine subscription club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them. They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country on a subscription basis. As for computer magazines from the USA, they more of a selection than I ever knew even existed. They have magazines for most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles. Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their competitors and even the publishers themselves. This is their price guarantee. Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines. On some titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge. They feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas. In the USA, people buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes or hours. They are so cheap in the USA! Well, this company would like to make it the same way for their overseas members. They are also cheaper than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the publishers themselves! This is their price guarantee. Around one-half their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language. Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and cut-out all the middlemen. They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student. I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my part-time software business! Please fill out the above form and carefully follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail. They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet. They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it. They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I haved moved from one country to another. They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA. They will give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular USA titles they sell. They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have clients in around 45 or 46 countries now. Outside the USA there is a charge for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie subs) that varies from magazine to magazine. I have found their staff to be very friendly and courteous. They even helped me with an address change when I moved from one country to another. The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members" (even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts as a new member. When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes he has one of his assistants call. He is kind of quirky sometimes - he insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!), but you can place future orders (after your first order) via E-mail. He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know just as much as he does about this magazine stuff. If you live overseas, he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long distance rates are cheaper then. He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing members and he does virtually no advertising. When I got set-up, they had a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately when you call. ) I think they are able to get back to prospective new members the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased their staff. I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above form to them, that is the way to get started! They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. They then send you email that outlines how his club works and the list of free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what he sells; and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly, no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and answer all your questions. Once you get in, you'll love them. I do. 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From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 25 04:25:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11969; Sun, 25 Feb 96 04:25:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19988; Sun, 25 Feb 96 04:23:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19981; Sun, 25 Feb 96 04:23:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqfPW-00038UC; Sun, 25 Feb 96 04:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Luz Abril Torres Mendez Subject: HELP -> PINE ON HPUX8.05 Date: 23 Feb 1996 18:00:07 GMT Message-Id: <4gkvb7$pef@hp.fciencias.unam.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 564 What is the code xxx to install Pine 3.91 on HPUX8.05? Thanks, Abril From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 25 04:25:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11971; Sun, 25 Feb 96 04:25:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11769; Sun, 25 Feb 96 04:23:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11758; Sun, 25 Feb 96 04:23:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqfPV-00038TC; Sun, 25 Feb 96 04:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: giannett@lij.edu (Charles Giannetto) Subject: Re: Pine spell checker Date: 23 Feb 1996 09:46:56 -0500 Message-Id: <4gkk10$a98@ns.lij.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 565 Tony Calguire (calguire@freenet.msp.mn.us) wrote: : On Sun, 11 Feb 1996, Chester Paul S'groi wrote: : > : > 3. Either a better spell checker, or the option to link the Pine and : > Pico editor to a better spell checker from the user point of view. : > : Is the Pine/Pico spell-checker something that can be customized for a : particular site? If I sent my system gurus a list of words that I think : should be added to Pine's dictionary, could they do it? You can also get Pine to use ispell (an interactive spell checker) by configuring it as the alternate editor. You can then invoke it with ^_ (check your local .pinerc file or the global pine.conf file). This trick, however, cannot be used from Pico. You would have to run Ispell on the file after exiting the editor. You can get additional info on Ispell at: http://www.cs.ucla.edu/ficus-members/geoff/ispell.html Enjoy, Charlie ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles J. Giannetto Long Island Jewish Medical Center Phone: (718) 470-8627 Internet Systems Administrator/Webmaster email: giannett@lij.edu -- This message represents the personal views and opinions of the individual sender and should in no way be construed as an authorized communication on behalf of Long Island Jewish Medical Center. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 25 04:29:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12051; Sun, 25 Feb 96 04:29:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19979; Sun, 25 Feb 96 04:23:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19973; Sun, 25 Feb 96 04:23:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqfPV-00038FC; Sun, 25 Feb 96 04:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rdadams@ubmail.ubalt.edu (Dick Adams) Subject: Re: Pico question Date: 23 Feb 96 11:59:52 -0500 Message-Id: <1996Feb23.115952.1@ubmail.ubalt.edu> References: <4fqcfh$1l3@access1.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 566 dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller) writes: > Dick Adams (rdadams@ubmail.ubalt) wrote: >> Phil Edwards wrote: >>> Dick Adams (rdadams@ubmail.ubalt.edu) sez: >>>+ I use pico as my editor. I want to set my right margin >>>+ to 64 characters, but am unable to locate any instructions >>>+ as to how to do so. >>> Pico isn't aware of a "right margin". It simply wraps the line >>> whenever you hit the edge of the terminal. To change the "margin," >>> simply resize the window in which you're working. (If you're on a >>> text-terminal, you're out of luck, but if that were the case, you >>> probably wouldn't want to change the margin anyhow. :-) >> Pico appears to be aware of a "right margin" when you justify a >> paragraph using CNTL-J. It's the right margin for justification >> that I want to adjust. > Pico does not currently have an explicit option to adjust the margin, > but it does use the size as reported by the terminal driver. You can > typically adjust this with something like "stty cols 64" before > starting Pico. Pine sets a limit of 76 characters, but does use the > terminal size if it is smaller. TERRIFIC!!! Worked exactly like I needed it to. Thank you, David Miller!! > Pine 3.92 and the Pico distributed with it will have options to > explicitly adjust the wrap column. When will 3.92 be available????? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 25 11:24:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18731; Sun, 25 Feb 96 11:24:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16357; Sun, 25 Feb 96 11:14:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16351; Sun, 25 Feb 96 11:14:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqltF-00038FC; Sun, 25 Feb 96 11:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Scott Tooker" Subject: Pine for HP-UX? Date: 20 Feb 96 08:19:52 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Cyberdog-AltBoundary-00001" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 567 --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-00001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I checked on the FAQ and Pine's website but couldn't find any infop on = 3.91 HP-UX. Anbody know if and where it exists? ------------ Scott Tooker mailto:sctooker@ucdavis.edu UC Davis, Physics Department "Anything that can exist, does exist." - Unremembered Origin --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-00001 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-00001" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-00001 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=X-MAC-ROMAN Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable PalatinoI checked on the FAQ and Pine's webs= ite but couldn't find any infop on 3.91 HP-UX. Anbody know if and wher= e it exists? ------------ Scott Tooker --Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-00001 Content-Type: application/X-url Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 bWFpbHRvOnNjdG9va2VyQHVjZGF2aXMuZWR1 --Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-00001 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=X-MAC-ROMAN Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Palatino UC Davis, Physics Department "Anything that can exist, does exist." - Unremembered Origin --Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-00001-- --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-00001-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 25 11:29:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18855; Sun, 25 Feb 96 11:29:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24648; Sun, 25 Feb 96 11:14:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24642; Sun, 25 Feb 96 11:14:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqltF-00038TC; Sun, 25 Feb 96 11:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bm11455@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca (Jason Baker) Subject: Re: What is the xxx code to build Pine 3.91 on HP 8.05? Message-Id: <1996Feb23.112643.7620@venus.gov.bc.ca> Date: 23 Feb 96 11:26:43 PST References: <4gkp5u$pef@hp.fciencias.unam.mx> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 568 In article <4gkp5u$pef@hp.fciencias.unam.mx>, Luz Abril Torres Mendez writes: >I would like to install Pine on HP with HPUX8.05 operating system, but > I don't know what is the xxx code to build it. How you remember the xxx > is the plataform where Pine is going to install. I believe it's right in the shell script, or in the documentation (can't recall where I got it) but as memory serves, the string is 'd-g'. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- jbaker@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca | To err is human; to really Systems Administrator, Information Systems | bugger things up requires BC Family Maintenance Enforcement Program | the root password. print unpack("u","92G5S\=\"!A;F]T:&5R(\'!E Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19701; Sun, 25 Feb 96 12:13:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16965; Sun, 25 Feb 96 12:09:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16959; Sun, 25 Feb 96 12:09:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqmjY-00038FC; Sun, 25 Feb 96 12:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Q:pine tricks Date: 25 Feb 1996 16:46:14 GMT Message-Id: <4gq3om$hcq@fu-berlin.de> References: <4ge5ur$403@news.nu.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 569 rsharma@lax.nu.edu (Rajiv Sharma - 2524700) writes: >Can anybody advice/help me how can I blink and (or) bold characters/words >while posting e-mail using pine? Well, "Richard P. O'Sullivan" recently (960202) claimed on comp.mail.pine (which is, btw, the newsgroup to ask questions about Pine): > ^A = ^Abold text^B / ^B = plain text / ^C = ^Cunderscored text^B I have not tested it, but I am sure that it looks real |<00|_ on birthday, or christmas email. >Is it possible to display with Red/Blue/Green background? Colour is possible, too. After all, what is multimedia for, anyway? For colour you have to format the text properly: First, your mail must have the "X-Colour:" header line which tells Pine that the email contains colour info. Second, each coloured text ("TEXT") requires the colour information which must be set around the text: start info / colour info / TEXT / colour reset / stop info The "start info" is the control-k (^K). The "colour info" is three characters where each one gives the intensity of the colours red, green, and blue - in that order! After the colour info just give the text and end with the colour reset. The colour reset is control-m (^M) which is then followed be "E" for "end". Try it! For best results on a vt100 use these colour intesity values: "I" for "red", "K" for blue, and "C" for green. If you use this often then you should make this a pico macro. Happy kiccolouring! Sven -- In the immortal words of Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz: Vs lbh oryvrir guvf gura lbh jvyy oryvrir nalguvat. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 25 12:26:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19947; Sun, 25 Feb 96 12:26:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25420; Sun, 25 Feb 96 12:19:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25414; Sun, 25 Feb 96 12:19:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqmuM-00038FC; Sun, 25 Feb 96 12:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: allison.eng11@uwcr.edu (Allison Eng) Message-Id: Control: cancel <4gpcj3$fkr@rain.psg.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <4gpcj3$fkr@rain.psg.com> Date: 25 Feb 1996 16:54:52 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 570 Cancelled by jem@xpat.com. 825267292 KEV Original Subject was: ===>> FREE 1 yr. Magazine Sub sent worldwide- 295+ Popular USA Titles From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 25 18:05:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25781; Sun, 25 Feb 96 18:05:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29963; Sun, 25 Feb 96 18:00:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29957; Sun, 25 Feb 96 18:00:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqs9h-00038FC; Sun, 25 Feb 96 17:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: InsAne Bassist Subject: Suspending Pine Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 16:12:32 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 571 How do you exit when you suspend Pine? <-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-> | InsAne Bassist | "A proud subscriber of | | http://www.grfn.org/~choir | alt.aol-sucks." | < -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 25 18:36:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26330; Sun, 25 Feb 96 18:36:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21918; Sun, 25 Feb 96 18:32:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [129.179.17.11] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21906; Sun, 25 Feb 96 18:32:40 -0800 Received: from localhost by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 26 Feb 96 10:32:22 +0800 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 10:32:17 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: InsAne Bassist Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Suspending Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 572 On Sun, 25 Feb 1996, InsAne Bassist wrote: > How do you exit when you suspend Pine? Try using "fg" meaning "foreground". To learn more about fg and other job control commands on Unix, type "man fg". Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 25 18:44:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26473; Sun, 25 Feb 96 18:44:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00516; Sun, 25 Feb 96 18:38:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [129.179.17.11] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00510; Sun, 25 Feb 96 18:38:33 -0800 Received: from localhost by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 26 Feb 96 10:38:15 +0800 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 10:38:15 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Sven Guckes Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Q:pine tricks In-Reply-To: <4gq3om$hcq@fu-berlin.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 573 On 25 Feb 1996, Sven Guckes wrote: Sven, Please be kind to novice users and refrain from sending items like what is below. It will only serve to confuse and frustrate some people and generally doesn't do any good for anyone. Thanks.... > rsharma@lax.nu.edu (Rajiv Sharma - 2524700) writes: > >Can anybody advice/help me how can I blink and (or) bold characters/words > >while posting e-mail using pine? > > Well, "Richard P. O'Sullivan" recently (960202) claimed on > comp.mail.pine (which is, btw, the newsgroup to ask questions about Pine): > > ^A = ^Abold text^B / ^B = plain text / ^C = ^Cunderscored text^B > > I have not tested it, but I am sure that it looks real |<00|_ on birthday, > or christmas email. > > >Is it possible to display with Red/Blue/Green background? > > Colour is possible, too. After all, what is multimedia for, anyway? > > For colour you have to format the text properly: > First, your mail must have the "X-Colour:" header line > which tells Pine that the email contains colour info. > Second, each coloured text ("TEXT") requires the colour information > which must be set around the text: > start info / colour info / TEXT / colour reset / stop info > > The "start info" is the control-k (^K). > The "colour info" is three characters where each one gives the intensity of the > colours red, green, and blue - in that order! > After the colour info just give the text and end with the colour reset. > The colour reset is control-m (^M) which is then followed be "E" for "end". > > Try it! For best results on a vt100 use these colour intesity values: > "I" for "red", "K" for blue, and "C" for green. > > If you use this often then you should make this a pico macro. > Happy kiccolouring! > > Sven > > -- > In the immortal words of Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz: > Vs lbh oryvrir guvf gura lbh jvyy oryvrir nalguvat. Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 25 19:15:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27070; Sun, 25 Feb 96 19:15:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22431; Sun, 25 Feb 96 19:10:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22425; Sun, 25 Feb 96 19:10:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqtHm-00038FC; Sun, 25 Feb 96 19:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Choi Subject: Re: date-sensitive signature file Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:53:03 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4gnk57$r1k@portal.gmu.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 574 On 24 Feb 1996, Mathew E Goldstein wrote: > If you run pine on UNIX, and are willing to settle for a new signature > with each login rather than a new signature file for every e-mail letter > sent, then something like the following works. > > There is a program called fortune which displays a different quote each > time it is run. Create a file, in this case I call it .sig, that > contains the constant part of your signature file. Then add the > following two lines to your .login file: > > fortune | tee fortune.txt > cat fortune.txt .sig > .signature > They say the aruba administrators on Unix don't allow us to use "fortune" command in order for us not to play game. Anyway, "fortune" command from my aruba account doesn't work. Do you have any suggestions? Yontaek Choi From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 25 20:03:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27939; Sun, 25 Feb 96 20:03:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01593; Sun, 25 Feb 96 19:55:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01587; Sun, 25 Feb 96 19:55:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqu1R-00038FC; Sun, 25 Feb 96 19:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tim Reed Subject: Re: shell possible? Answered Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 16:56:35 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 575 On Thu, 22 Feb 1996,I wrote: > Is it possible to run a shell command without quitting pine? I haven't > found a way to do this yet. Any help is appreciated. Thanks to all that answered my question. The answer is: yes, it's not a real shell, but it will allow you to run commands from the command line. Instructions are: (Assuming you're using UNIX, and pine was compiled to allow escaping) 1. In pine/configuration, check the option "enable-suspend" 2. Use ^Z to put pine in the background and place you back in the shell. 3. To get back to pine you normally enter "fg" (for most shells). Hope this helps others as well. Tim ======================================================================== Tim Reed rpgw30@email.sps.mot.com ======================================================================== If you think there is good in everyone, you haven't met everyone ======================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 25 21:58:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00402; Sun, 25 Feb 96 21:58:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24562; Sun, 25 Feb 96 21:55:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24556; Sun, 25 Feb 96 21:55:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqvrE-00038FC; Sun, 25 Feb 96 21:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ronda Hauben Subject: How to exit one newsgroup to read another using pine? Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 20:20:29 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 576 Is there any way other than control-l to exit one newsgroup and then go to read another when using pine to read newsgroups? Using control-l takes a bit of time. Thanks for any suggestions about this. Ronda ronda@columbia.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 26 00:01:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02341; Mon, 26 Feb 96 00:01:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26005; Sun, 25 Feb 96 23:51:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25999; Sun, 25 Feb 96 23:51:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqxfX-00038FC; Sun, 25 Feb 96 23:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nevin Kapur Subject: Re: Accessing newsgroups from a remote server (fwd) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 13:53:14 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 577 On 23 Feb 1996, Kim Scarborough wrote: [sinp] > How do I configure this? I have a hunch it has something to do with > the "news-collections" setting, which I haven't messed with. Can anyone help? > Please respond to me personally, because I don't subscribe to this > mailing list. [snip] I think you should add news folders by adding News *[name of remote server/nntp] to your news collection settings. This is a shot in the dark. Hope it helps. Nevin. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nevin Kapur | Electrical Engineering | Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay INTERNET http://ee.iitb.ernet.in/~nevin | nevin@ee.iitb.ernet.in MAIL C20 Garib Soc.,5th NS Rd.,JVPD Scheme,Bombay,400049.India PHONE 628 1091, 624 0272 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 26 00:02:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02375; Mon, 26 Feb 96 00:02:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04466; Sun, 25 Feb 96 23:41:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04460; Sun, 25 Feb 96 23:41:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqxUl-00038FC; Sun, 25 Feb 96 23:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nevin Kapur Subject: Re: Accessing newsgroups from a remote server (fwd) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 14:03:23 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 578 On Mon, 26 Feb 1996, Nevin Kapur wrote: [sinp] > > > How do I configure this? I have a hunch it has something to do with > > the "news-collections" setting, which I haven't messed with. Can anyone help? > > Please respond to me personally, because I don't subscribe to this > > mailing list. > > [snip] > > I think you should add news folders by adding News *[name of remote > server/nntp] to your news collection settings. This is a shot in the > dark. Hope it helps. > Sorry, it should be News *{name of remote server/nntp}[] Nevin. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nevin Kapur | Electrical Engineering | Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay INTERNET http://ee.iitb.ernet.in/~nevin | nevin@ee.iitb.ernet.in MAIL C20 Garib Soc.,5th NS Rd.,JVPD Scheme,Bombay,400049.India PHONE 628 1091, 624 0272 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 26 00:03:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02407; Mon, 26 Feb 96 00:03:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04600; Sun, 25 Feb 96 23:56:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04594; Sun, 25 Feb 96 23:56:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tqxkV-00038FC; Sun, 25 Feb 96 23:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ernest Ackermann Subject: Converting Address Book from Pine to Groupwise? Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 20:40:38 -0500 Message-Id: <31310F96.4DEB@interserf.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 579 Hello - Our school currently has a GroupWise e-mail system and a Pine/Unix e-mail system as well, with many users going to GroupWise. I'd appreciate hearing form anyone with tips about tools to automatically convert a Pine address book to a GroupWise address book. Thanks in advance. -- Ernest Ackermann ernie@mwc.edu Department of Computer Science VOICE: 540-654-1320 Mary Washington College FAX: 540-654-1068 Fredericksburg, VA 22401 http://www.mwc.edu/ernie/index.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 26 02:34:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05505; Mon, 26 Feb 96 02:34:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27834; Mon, 26 Feb 96 02:21:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27828; Mon, 26 Feb 96 02:21:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tr033-00038FC; Mon, 26 Feb 96 02:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Character Sets Date: 24 Feb 1996 00:35:45 GMT Message-Id: <4glmh1$93q@news.ysu.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 580 In a previous article, vbanks@h-net.msu.edu (Vickie Banks) says: >I'm receiving mail from other countries that says it won't display >correctly because it was written in another Character set, for >example: ISO-2022-JP > >I can find the spot in configuration where I would change the >character set, but when I put a new value in, nothing seems to >happen. I suppose this is because we have to get these alternate >character sets from somewhere and install them Yes, that is one part of the problem. The Pine character set value refers to what you are supposed to be able to read and write, rather than what Pine can display for you. That is, it doesn't change your display character set, but rather the tagging of mail you send, or the on-the-wire MIME character set. If you get messages with a different character set than your system defines, you must have a way to display them, which will require in the simplest case, new fonts. For some languages or multi-byte or multi- octet character sets, a completely different display mechanism than that the 8-bit ASCII-based character sets use is required. >I can't seem to find a source for character sets or instructions >for installing them on a UNIX machine though. I've started to set up another font archive for X11 fonts, which can be found at ftp://ftp.radio.cz/fonts/X11/ . I'm still in the process of setting this up, so it's a slight shambles. Here you can find fonts for many character sets you might find in MIME mail which you can use if you run X on your Unix machine. I won't go into the details of installing them, other than to refer you to commands like mkfontdir and xset and bdftopcf . I will refer you to an HTML document I discovered today... http://sizif.mf.uni-lj.si/linux/cee/x11/font.install.html I hope this will help you to get started, for the easier languages (such as those covered by the ISO 8859 set of character sets)... -- Barry Bouwsma, Intanet an' Netwerkin' gooru-type kind o' nerd Radio Praha, Cesky Rozhlas 7; Vinohradska 12; CZ-120 99 Praha 2; Czechistan __________http://www.radio.cz for info from Radio Prague This sig is five lines long. Check your newsreader configuration if you do not From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 26 03:37:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06601; Mon, 26 Feb 96 03:37:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28645; Mon, 26 Feb 96 03:31:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28637; Mon, 26 Feb 96 03:31:36 -0800 Received: (from vs@localhost) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.1/8.7.1) id MAA15874; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 12:31:55 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 12:31:55 +0100 (MET) From: Vladimir Solnicky =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=28Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD=29?= To: The Pine Discussion List Subject: Re: What is the xxx code to build Pine 3.91 on HP 8.05? In-Reply-To: <1996Feb23.112643.7620@venus.gov.bc.ca> Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Acknowledge-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Organizace: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_(=DATIA)_AV_=C8R?= Transport-Options: /delivery /return Read-Receipt-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Receipt-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Return-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Read-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 581 On 23 Feb 1996, Jason Baker wrote: > >I would like to install Pine on HP with HPUX8.05 operating system, but > > I don't know what is the xxx code to build it. How you remember the xxx > > is the plataform where Pine is going to install. > I believe it's right in the shell script, or in the documentation (can't > recall where I got it) but as memory serves, the string is 'd-g'. I used hpp (i. e. command `build hpp') on HP 9000/700 workstation running HP-UX 8.xx. Hope this helps. V. S. | | Bc. Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD (Vladim\'{\i}r Solnick\'y) | | =DAstav teorie informace a automatizace Akademie v=ECd =C8R \/ Pod vod=E1renskou v=EC=BE=ED 4, 182 08 Praha 8-Libe=F2 tel. (02) 6605/2212 nebo 2364, telefax: (02) 688-4677, el. adresa: vs@utia.cas.cz, ftp: ftp.utia.cas.cz:/pub/income/vs, Pavu=E8ina: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-cz.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 26 03:41:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06673; Mon, 26 Feb 96 03:41:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07301; Mon, 26 Feb 96 03:36:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07295; Mon, 26 Feb 96 03:36:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tr1C7-00038FC; Mon, 26 Feb 96 03:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nevin Kapur Subject: Irritating beep. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 17:27:34 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 582 Hi, I face the following problem when I am using pine to read news: Every time I go from one folder to another by pressing TAB, I get an irritating beep. This also occurs when I open a folder with no messages. Is there any way of supressing this beep. Any help is appreciated. Nevin. ____________________________________________________________________________ Nevin Kapur * Electrical Engineering * Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay INTERNET http://ee.iitb.ernet.in/~nevin, nevin@ee.iitb.ernet.in MAIL C20 Garib Soc.,5th NS Rd.,JVPD Scheme,Bombay,400049.India PHONE 628 1091, 624 0272 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 26 03:59:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07004; Mon, 26 Feb 96 03:59:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07480; Mon, 26 Feb 96 03:51:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07474; Mon, 26 Feb 96 03:51:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tr1RH-00038TC; Mon, 26 Feb 96 03:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eigil Krogh Sorensen Subject: Pine and Netscape Mails addressbooks ? Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 07:24:45 +0100 Message-Id: <3131522D.755D@aar-vki.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 583 We are using the Pine e-mailer. In pine I have a large addressbook which I would like to use in Netscapes News and Mail programmes also. Is that possible ? What is the format of netscape addressbooks ? -- -- Eigil Krogh Sorensen ---------------------------------------------------------- VKI !E-mail: eks@aar-vki.dk ! Water Quality Institute !Phone: ! Science Park Aarhus ! +45 86 20 20 00 or ! 10, Gustav Wieds Vej ! +45 86 20 20 11 local 2114 ! DK-8000 Aarhus C !Fax: ! DENMARK. ! +45 86 19 75 11 ! ---------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 26 05:02:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08822; Mon, 26 Feb 96 05:02:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29840; Mon, 26 Feb 96 04:56:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29834; Mon, 26 Feb 96 04:56:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tr2QG-00038FC; Mon, 26 Feb 96 04:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Carlos PINTO-PEREIRA Subject: Re: Getting ^^ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 07:37:00 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 584 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------------------293182699329116 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ________________________________________________________________________ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ CERN LHC/IAS _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ 1211 Geneve 23 - CH _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ Tel: (022) 767 43 25 _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/_ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ \ _/_/ _/ _/ \ _/ _/ e_mail - Pinto-Pereira@Cern.Ch Url - http://nicewww.cern.ch/~pintopc/welcome.htm "La culture c'est ce qui reste quand on a tout oublie" ________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------293182699329116 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain Quoth Lauren T. Slawe: > NCSA Telnet already assigns functions to the ^C,^S and ^Z > keys. Fortunately you can change that yourself. Go up to the Session > menu and choose "setup keys" Erase what's in them, or choose others. > Now ^C should work, as it now gets to use the function that unix > assigns to it. Good advice. This probably doesn't need to be said, but that change is not permanent (i.e., you'd have to do that every time you do a session) Fortunately, you can use the "Save Set" command to save that configuration to a "telnet set" (which you should then use in the future to invoke your session). ---------------------------------293182699329116-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 26 09:59:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18596; Mon, 26 Feb 96 09:59:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14025; Mon, 26 Feb 96 09:47:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14019; Mon, 26 Feb 96 09:47:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tr70u-00038UC; Mon, 26 Feb 96 09:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joan Figuerola Subject: Re: Anyone use VMS Pine? Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 12:40:28 +0100 Message-Id: <31319C2C.F18@icmab.es> References: <4gpu7c$qgp@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 585 Cmrokke wrote: > > I know there's VMS Pine out there -- Innosoft International sells it, and > someone gave me a WWW address where I can get the software myself -- but > Could You give me this address please? I'm have a VMS system and I interested in PINE. Thanks in advance. 'Joan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 26 11:03:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21551; Mon, 26 Feb 96 11:03:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07388; Mon, 26 Feb 96 10:47:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lbbc.lb.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07380; Mon, 26 Feb 96 10:47:37 -0800 Received: by lbbc.lb.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA149294; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 12:44:55 -0600 Message-Id: <9602261844.AA149294@lbbc.lb.com> Received: from smtpgate id: 3131FFA2.482 (WordPerfect SMTP Gateway V3.1a 04/27/92) Received: from lbbc (WP Connection) From: (Kim Scarborough) To: Subject: Accessing remote news servers Date: Mon Feb 26 12:44:50 1996 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 586 This suggestion from Nevin causes me to get a message saying "502 You have no permission to talk. Goodbye." when I try to get a list of expanded folders. Can anyone help? ---------------- UUencoded Attachment, Cut Here --------------- begin 666 news1 M_U=00TP````!"@```````/O_!0`R```````&``@```!"````"``"````2@`` M````````````````````````````"`!\`'@``````,,,PT9R;VTZ("`@("#$ M#,1.979I;B!+87!U2P@1F5B2!A9&1I;F<@3F5W2P@:70@2U";VUB87D)"B!) M3E1%4DY%5"`@("`):'1T<#HO+V5E+FEI=&(N97)N970N:6XO?FYE=FEN('P@ M;F5V:6Y`964N:6ET8BYE Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22040; Mon, 26 Feb 96 11:14:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16091; Mon, 26 Feb 96 10:52:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16085; Mon, 26 Feb 96 10:52:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tr81Z-00038FC; Mon, 26 Feb 96 10:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mraaum@uio.no (Margrete Raaum) Subject: Re: plus d'info Date: 26 Feb 1996 15:37:17 GMT Message-Id: <4gsk3d$nu8@ratatosk.uio.no> References: <199502231245.NAA24833@bule.univ-angers.fr> In-Reply-To: <199502231245.NAA24833@bule.univ-angers.fr> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 587 I artikkel <199502231245.NAA24833@bule.univ-angers.fr>, marsault@bule.univ-angers.fr (anthony marsault) tastet: >j'aimerai avoir si possibles des informations sur des personnes ou m=EAmes= > des >e-mail sur des personnes qui habite l'ouest de la france Vous devez demander par example a fr.misc.divers ou fr.network.divers, pas a comp.mail.pine. Margrete From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 26 11:51:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24132; Mon, 26 Feb 96 11:51:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08719; Mon, 26 Feb 96 11:35:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from utsw.swmed.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08709; Mon, 26 Feb 96 11:35:34 -0800 Received: from mhfp.swmed.edu (mhfp.swmed.edu) by UTSW.SWMED.EDU (PMDF V5.0-5 #13099) id <01I1O5VTWQ3W8ZGBCE@UTSW.SWMED.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 13:34:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from MHFP.SWMED.EDU by MHFP.SWMED.EDU (PMDF V5.0-4 #13099) id <01I1O5VKLWZK90N2YJ@MHFP.SWMED.EDU>; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 13:34:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 13:34:26 -0600 (CST) From: "FPJPC@MHFP.SWMED.EDU" Subject: Re: Online status via email request (Re: Help) In-Reply-To: To: Ed Greshko Cc: Neal Santin u , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 588 I did notice in group three of the help notes that no local support was available. So, I might be right in thinking the system locally is running unattended. I was told pine was good only for usenet news and e-mail. Can you use lynx to access the WWW? 25 Feb 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Sat, 24 Feb 1996, Neal Santin u wrote: > > > On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, FPJPC@MHFP.SWMED.EDU wrote: > > > > > Itried the directions but didn't get an answer from "postmaster' nor an > > > > Same here, I sent the mail and I too did not get a response. > > > > > error message. I am a complete novice. Is it possible that there is no one > > > in charge. Pine on our system is almost totally unused. It was only by > > > accident that I found it a week ago. Is there some way I can find out > > > other users in my division? I think on list-serv i used a review command > > > to get a list of subscribers. 18 Feb 1996, Sven Guckes wrote: > > > > > > > "Randy R. Ringnlada" writes: > > > > >Is it possible in pine to find out when a certain user has been online? > > > > >RRingnald@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu > > > > > > > > Send mail to "postmaster@host.domain" with subject "loginstat username", eg: > > > > > > > > To: postmaster@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu > > > > Subject: loginstat ringnald > > > > > > > > Btw, there are two errors in your post: > > > > 1) You mipselt your name ("Ringnlada" instead of "Ringnalda"). > > > > 2) You mispllt your address ("RRingnald" instead of "ringnald"). > > > > > > > > HTH. > > > > > > > > Sven > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh.....you have to be careful about what some people post. > > In some cases what they say will only work at their sites. In > other cases there are some people who enjoy posting information which > is somewhat sarcastic but will be taken seriously by the novice user. > > There is no "universal" method to determine who/if/when others > may have logged on to a particular system. > > Regards, > > Ed > > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 26 14:03:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00589; Mon, 26 Feb 96 14:03:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21039; Mon, 26 Feb 96 13:57:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21033; Mon, 26 Feb 96 13:57:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trArp-00038TC; Mon, 26 Feb 96 13:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: York University Canoe Club Subject: Forwarding certain emails automatically. Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 14:13:39 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 589 I know how to forward all my email from one account to another, by using .forward . Can I forward only certain emails, such as all with subject banana or all from bob@etc? Is there a way? Thanks Andrew Woodhouse =============================================================================== = York University Canoe Club = = c/o AU Office, University of York, Heslington, York, Y01 5DD = = E-mail: socs44@unix.york.ac.uk Web: http://www.york.ac.uk/~socs44 = =============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 26 14:08:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00788; Mon, 26 Feb 96 14:08:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12565; Mon, 26 Feb 96 13:57:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12557; Mon, 26 Feb 96 13:57:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trAro-00038FC; Mon, 26 Feb 96 13:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wacker@quincke.Physik.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Klaus Wacker) Subject: 3.91: Bug in Attchmnt (COMPOSE MESSAGE) Date: 26 Feb 1996 08:47:57 GMT Message-Id: <4grs3t$643@nx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 590 When entering a filename in the Attchmnt: header, pine apparently checks whether the file exists and immediately gives an error message if it doesn't. It does not however check whether the file has appropriate permissions for me to read it. When the file is not readable, pine types an error message to the screen when sending the composed message, but sends it anyway, without the attachment. Pine should not only check the existence of the file, but also whether it is a plain file with appropriate read permissions. While I have your attention, this is not a bug, but a missing feature: Pine should have TAB completion wherever filenames have to be entered. It does it already for folders. Cheers, -- Klaus Wacker wacker@Physik.Uni-Dortmund.DE Experimentelle Physik V http://www.physik.uni-dortmund.de/~wacker Universitaet Dortmund Tel.: +49 (231) 755 3587 D-44221 Dortmund Fax: +49 (231) 755 3569 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 26 14:30:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01771; Mon, 26 Feb 96 14:30:03 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21792; Mon, 26 Feb 96 14:24:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from opus.csd.uwm.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21780; Mon, 26 Feb 96 14:24:51 -0800 Received: (dave@localhost) by opus.csd.uwm.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) id QAA27287; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 16:24:06 -0600 From: Dave Rasmussen Message-Id: <199602262224.QAA27287@opus.csd.uwm.edu> Subject: Re: Getting ^^ To: dennisk@primenet.com (DennisK) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 16:24:04 -0600 (CST) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "DennisK" at Feb 19, 96 03:41:01 am Word-Of-The-Day: chronicle X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23beta2] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 591 >From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 19 18:23:25 1996 > >In article >, jim >eagle did write: > >> Hello --- I'm using Pine and Pico on SPARC10 via remote dialin ... >> and when I try to select a block of text with CONTROL-^, a get >> 6 instead. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. >> Jim Eagle >> Naval Postgraduate School >> Monterey, CA 93943 > > > >Been there... > >Hit [escape-escape-Shift-6-shift-6]. This info is in man pages in some >versions of Pico and Pine. This will mark text, when ^^ won't. > >I don't know why it's ^^ sometimes works and sometimes you need the >'escape-esacpe,etc. If you find out more, please let me know. We gave up on control caret here and added CTRL \ to do the same thing. I can send the diffs to the 3.87 sources if people are interested. So now both commands do the same thing so we don't have to tell people used to the old way to change it. Our problem was we couldn't seem to make a control caret on a macintosh off the 6 key. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 26 17:58:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10669; Mon, 26 Feb 96 17:58:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18925; Mon, 26 Feb 96 17:53:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18919; Mon, 26 Feb 96 17:53:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trEZo-00038FC; Mon, 26 Feb 96 17:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nevin Kapur Subject: Re: -debugN files ??? In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 00:25:33 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 592 On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, William G. S. Brown wrote: > I get several files with the name ".pine-debugN" where N=1,2,3,... > I don't know what is causing them to be generated. Does anyone know how > to stop these files from being generated? Thanks. > > > To invoke pine use pine -d 0 insted of pine. Nevin. Nevin Kapur | Electrical Engineering | Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay INTERNET http://ee.iitb.ernet.in/~nevin , nevin@ee.iitb.ernet.in MAIL C/20 Garib Society,5th NS Road,JVPD Scheme Bombay,400 049.India PHONE 628 1091, 624 0272 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 26 18:18:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11211; Mon, 26 Feb 96 18:18:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28006; Mon, 26 Feb 96 18:13:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28000; Mon, 26 Feb 96 18:13:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trEsg-00038FC; Mon, 26 Feb 96 18:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mraaum@uio.no (Margrete Raaum) Subject: Re: Faq? Date: 26 Feb 1996 15:42:22 GMT Message-Id: <4gskcu$nu8@ratatosk.uio.no> References: In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 593 In article , John Margaritsanakis wrote: > Just the FAQs, mum :) http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/faq/index.html Margrete From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 26 22:42:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17072; Mon, 26 Feb 96 22:42:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02242; Mon, 26 Feb 96 22:38:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02236; Mon, 26 Feb 96 22:38:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trJ1o-00038FC; Mon, 26 Feb 96 22:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cravener@Hawaii.Edu (Patty Cravener) Subject: undocumented feature? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 03:55:56 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 594 A serendipitous event led me to discover that it is possible to include highlighted text in Pico-edited pine mail messages. FYI, the WordPerfect characters 5,170 (deck of cards `heart') and 5,7 (classic smiley face), when saved as ascii text and edited in pico, show on the screen as ^C and ^A, and yield black on white or red on white text, respectively. This is a very nice effect, against the standard white-on-black pine mailer message. Problem is, I can't find any documentation that allows me to create the effects directly within the Pico editor. Can anyone direct me to reading material, preferably in a file somewhere? Thanks for your attention to this query... pc -- ____________________________________________________________________ Patricia Cravener cravener@hawaii.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 26 23:46:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18363; Mon, 26 Feb 96 23:46:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03185; Mon, 26 Feb 96 23:44:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03179; Mon, 26 Feb 96 23:44:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trK4K-00038TC; Mon, 26 Feb 96 23:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brian Smith Subject: PCPine for Windows95 & PPP ? Date: 26 Feb 1996 18:25:41 GMT Message-Id: <4gstv5$idp@news.mr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 595 I am a UNIX mail administator treading in the unknown of Windows95... I'm considering using imapd on a Solaris server and allowing Windows95 dialup users to use PCPine to access their mailboxes. The dialup connection is using the Dial-up Networking PPP support that comes with Windows95. Will PC-Pine work in this environment? I don't see Windows95 mentioned in the Pine home page. The Windows95 device is the "Dial-up Device" and the TCP/IP drivers are provided by Microsoft Windows 95. Thanks for any help or hints - Brian Smith -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Brian Smith Cheyenne Software, Inc. (612) 890-9367 brian@mn.cheyenne.com 11461 Rupp Drive BrianSmith@mn.cheyenne.com Burnsville, MN 55337-1276 (612) 882-3452 fax From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 26 23:51:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18448; Mon, 26 Feb 96 23:51:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24023; Mon, 26 Feb 96 23:44:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24017; Mon, 26 Feb 96 23:44:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trK43-00038FC; Mon, 26 Feb 96 23:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: becker@sable.adelphi.edu (Don Becker) Subject: Re: Anyone use VMS Pine? Date: 26 Feb 96 09:41:01 EST Message-Id: <1996Feb26.094101@sable.adelphi.edu> References: <4gpu7c$qgp@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 596 In article <4gpu7c$qgp@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, cmrokke@aol.com (Cmrokke) writes: > > I know there's VMS Pine out there -- Innosoft International sells it, and > someone gave me a WWW address where I can get the software myself -- but > we don't have WWW where I work. > > Guess what I want to know is, has anyone downloaded and is using it? > How did you get it? Where from? How does it work? > In short, Help, Help, Help!! ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/ has the Unix version of pine, which comes with the DCL files to compile under VMS. However, I've tried compiling it and it always seems to crap out on me. The one time I was able to get an executable, it coughed up a core dump at me. For the record, I'm running OpenVMS Alpha v6.2 with UCX v3.3. --Don -- / Don Becker -- becker@sable.adelphi.edu | "Can't this wait till I'm old? \ | SABLE/OpenVMS System Administrator | Can't I live while I'm young?" | | Adelphi University, Garden City, NY | --Phish | \ Phone: (516)877-3341 Fax: (516)877-3545 | / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 27 00:14:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18970; Tue, 27 Feb 96 00:14:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24373; Tue, 27 Feb 96 00:12:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bud.indirect.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24367; Tue, 27 Feb 96 00:12:19 -0800 Received: from bud.indirect.com (mcguirk@bud.indirect.com [165.247.1.10]) by bud.indirect.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA08222 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 01:12:43 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 01:12:41 -0700 (MST) From: Dan McGuirk To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bad context Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 597 Something I did makes my pine complain Bad context: No '[' in context : Mail whenever I start it up. What was it? -- "Emergency! Everything is uncool. Send the mothership." --Levon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 27 03:04:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22599; Tue, 27 Feb 96 03:04:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26255; Tue, 27 Feb 96 02:53:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26249; Tue, 27 Feb 96 02:53:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trMxj-00038FC; Tue, 27 Feb 96 02:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sdgreen@dallas.net (Suzanne Green) Subject: email research survey. please take a moment . . . Date: Tue, 27 Feb 96 05:51:18 GMT Message-Id: <4gu6lq$e27@dns.plano.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 598 The survey below is an attempt to determine the way people use and perceive the use of electronic mail. We would appreciate it if you could take a few minutes to answer the multiple choice questions below. When you are finished, please email the survey to: sdgreen@dallas.net You can use the reply function on your mailer to return the survey. This survey is for research purposes only. We will treat all of the answers that we receive as confidential, and will only use them to derive statistical evidence. Thank you for taking the time to fill out this survey. We appreciate your assistance. _______________________________________________________________________ Section I: How Do You Use Email? 1. Do you conduct business via email that you don't conduct via paper mail? _____ yes _____ no 2. What types of business do you conduct via email that you don't conduct via paper mail? (Check all that apply.) ____distributing minutes of meetings ____informal correspondence with individuals who are part of your organization ____informal correspondence with individuals who are outside of your organization ____formal correspondence of any sort ____negotiations (terms of contracts, etc.) ____proposals ____other (please specify) 3. Do you conduct business via paper mail that you don't conduct via email? _____yes _____no 4. What types of business do you conduct via paper mail that you don't conduct via email? (Check all that apply) ____distributing minutes of meetings ____informal correspondence with individuals who are part of your organization ____informal correspondence with individuals who are outside of your organization ____formal correspondence of any sort ____negotiations (terms of contracts, etc.) ____proposals ____other (please specify) 5. How much time do you spend using email in an average day? ____less than 30 minutes ____30 minutes - 1 hour ____1-3 hours ____more than 3 hours 6. How do you emphasize important parts of your text in email messages? (Please rank the method you use most as 1, the next most frequent as 2, and so on. Put a 0 next to any method that you do not use.) _____all capital letters _____headings _____extra spacing around important paragraphs/sections _____unusual spelling _____emoticons _____other (please specify) 7. How long do you spend composing an average email message? ____less than 15 minutes ____15-30 minutes ____30 minutes to 1 hour ____more than 1 hour 8. How long do you spend composing an average paper letter/memo? ____less than 15 minutes ____15-30 minutes ____30 minutes to 1 hour ____more than 1 hour 9. Do you revise your messages after you write them? _____yes _____no 10. If you NEVER revise your messages, please skip to number 11 What types of messages are you most likely to revise? (Check all that apply.) _____messages to your boss _____messages to your colleagues _____messages to a client _____messages to a friend 11. Do you attempt to observe grammatical conventions such as punctuation, grammar, and spelling in email? _____yes _____no 12. If you do not observe grammatical conventions, what differences are there between your paper correspondence and your email correspondence? (Check all that apply.) _____I don't use capital letters in email. _____I only use capital letters for emphasis in email. _____I don't use punctuation in email. _____I don't worry too much about spelling in email, unless I think the person I'm writing to won't know what I mean. _____I intentionally misspell things for emphasis sometimes. _____other (please specify) _________________________________________________________________________ Section II: Privacy Issues 1. Is professional email monitored at your workplace? _____yes _____no _____don't know 2. Is personal email permitted on your company's system? _____yes _____no 3. Is personal email monitored on your company's system? _____yes _____no _____don't know 4. If you knew your email was being monitored, how would it effect your use of email? _____It wouldn't. I'd continue to use it as I do now. _____I'd quit using email altogether. _____I'd quit using email for personal messages, but would use it the same amount for work-related correspondence. _____I'd use email less overall. _____I'd use email more overall. _____other (please specify) 5. Does your mail program allow you to encrypt messages and attached files? _____yes _____no 6. Do you use the encryption feature? _____all the time. _____sometimes, with confidential documents _____rarely _____never _____don't know how to use it, but would if I did. 7. What kind of messages/files do you encrypt? _____all messages _____personal messages _____confidential business documents/information _____nothing _____other (please specify) 8. Will encrypting messages keep your system operator from being able to read them? _____yes _____no 9. Do you keep an archive of old messages, either in your mail program or somewhere else, such as your hard drive, or a paper file? _____yes _____no 10. What types of messages/files do you keep? _____all messages _____personal messages only _____messages that may help me "cover my butt" in a crunch _____all business-related messages _____all messages related to specific project(s) _____other (please specify) 11. Who has access to your archive of old messages/files? _____no one but me _____the system operator _____my boss _____all of my co-workers _____partners/co-workers on particular projects _____anyone who replaces me when I leave my present position _____other (please specify) 12. How many people, on average, do you carbon copy on a message? _____1 _____2-5 _____5-10 _____more than 10 13. How many people, on average, do you carbon copy on a paper letter/memo? _____1 _____2-5 _____5-10 _____more than 10 14. Do you forward messages to people who are not on the carbon copy list? _____yes _____no 15. Who do you blind copy messages to? _____no one _____my boss _____my coworkers _____my friends _____other (please specify) 16. Do you carbon copy all of your messages to your supervisor? _____yes _____no 17. What affect will the Communications Decency Act have on your business email? (Please explain) 18. What affect will the Communications Decency Act have on your personal email? (Please explain.) 19. Is there anything else about your use of email that you feel we should know? ___________________________________________________________________________ Please fill in the following demographic information. We will keep all information strictly confidential, and will use any information you give solely for the purposes of this study. Sex: _____Male _____Female Age: _____18 or younger _____18-24 _____24-30 _____30-38 _____38-50 _____over 50 Education: (please check highest level complete) _____some high school _____graduated high school _____technical school _____some college _____graduated college _____some graduate work _____master's degree _____doctoral degree Job Title: _____management/professional _____technical _____administrative/clerical _____academic/research _____government _____student _____other (please specify) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 27 05:33:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26056; Tue, 27 Feb 96 05:33:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07593; Tue, 27 Feb 96 05:28:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07587; Tue, 27 Feb 96 05:28:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trPOl-00038FC; Tue, 27 Feb 96 05:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ddj+@pitt.edu (Doug DeJulio) Subject: Re: PCPine for Windows95 & PPP ? Date: 26 Feb 1996 20:57:12 GMT Message-Id: <4gt6r8$7u9@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> References: <4gstv5$idp@news.mr.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 599 In article <4gstv5$idp@news.mr.net>, Brian Smith wrote: >Will PC-Pine work in this environment? I don't see Windows95 mentioned in >the Pine home page. The Windows95 device is the "Dial-up Device" and the >TCP/IP drivers are provided by Microsoft Windows 95. I use PC-Pine (the Winsock version) on my Windows 95 laptop every day. At my office, I use a PCMCIA ethernet card, and at home I use the PPP dialin, both using the TCP/IP stack provided by Microsoft. It works without a problem. -- Doug DeJulio | http://www.pitt.edu/~ddj/ Systems Analyst | mailto:ddj+@pitt.edu University of Pittsburgh | MIME welcome; PGP key available via homepage From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 27 05:34:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26128; Tue, 27 Feb 96 05:34:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28277; Tue, 27 Feb 96 05:28:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28271; Tue, 27 Feb 96 05:28:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trPOl-00038TC; Tue, 27 Feb 96 05:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dgd@nebula.is.rpslmc.edu (Daniel G. Drumm) Subject: Re: Forwarding certain emails automatically. Date: 26 Feb 1996 19:41:35 GMT Message-Id: <4gt2df$ae2@nebula.is.rpslmc.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 600 York University Canoe Club (socs44@york.ac.uk) wrote: : I know how to forward all my email from one account to another, by using : .forward . : Can I forward only certain emails, such as all with subject banana or all : from bob@etc? Is there a way? : Thanks : Andrew Woodhouse : =============================================================================== : = York University Canoe Club = : = c/o AU Office, University of York, Heslington, York, Y01 5DD = : = E-mail: socs44@unix.york.ac.uk Web: http://www.york.ac.uk/~socs44 = : =============================================================================== procmail -- -- Daniel G. Drumm - ddrumm@is.rpslmc.edu System Administrator - Network Analyst Information Services - 1700 W. Van Buren Suite 374 Rush Presbyterian - St. Luke's Medical Center Chicago, IL 60612 - (312) 942-5000 Ext. 2-1551 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 27 06:47:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27608; Tue, 27 Feb 96 06:47:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29183; Tue, 27 Feb 96 06:38:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29177; Tue, 27 Feb 96 06:38:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trQUN-00038UC; Tue, 27 Feb 96 06:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: flavell@v2.ph.gla.ac.uk (Alan J. Flavell) Subject: Re: Anyone use VMS Pine? Message-Id: References: <4gpu7c$qgp@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 12:21:34 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 601 In article <4gpu7c$qgp@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, cmrokke@aol.com (Cmrokke) writes: > >I know there's VMS Pine out there -- Innosoft International sells it, and >someone gave me a WWW address where I can get the software myself -- but You may be confusing different implementations of PINE for VMS. One is a commercial product which you would purchase. AFAIK you don't get it on the net. The one that we use is a free version, by Yehavi Bourvine in Israel. It has some shortcomings, but it mostly does what we want. >we don't have WWW where I work. Well, then you're working with at least one hand tied behind your back. Lynx, at least, exists in a VMS version: get it and use it (look on comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc for an FAQ, ask there if you need further help). The only information I can offer you about Yehavi's VMS PINE is on a WWW page: http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7Eflavell/vms-pine.html The software is available for FTP (user "anonymous") at vms.huji.ac.il in directory LOCAL as PINE_3_*.ZIP (for appropriate value of "*"), you also need UNZIP.EXE in order to unwrap it. best regards --- Alan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 27 06:55:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27825; Tue, 27 Feb 96 06:55:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08539; Tue, 27 Feb 96 06:38:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08533; Tue, 27 Feb 96 06:38:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trQS3-00038TC; Tue, 27 Feb 96 06:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cmalone6@sld024.cpd.ford.com (Craig Maloney) Subject: Re: Suspending Pine Date: 27 Feb 1996 13:13:19 GMT Message-Id: <4gv01f$3lk@ef2007.efhd.ford.com> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 602 On 25 Feb 1996 18:36:38 -0800 in comp.mail.pine Ed Greshko (Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com) wrote: : On Sun, 25 Feb 1996, InsAne Bassist wrote: : > How do you exit when you suspend Pine? : Try using "fg" meaning "foreground". To learn more about fg and : other job control commands on Unix, type "man fg". You will not find a man page for fg. Try instead to do a manpage on your particular shell. (For instance, I use csh here, so in order to find out what fg means for csh, I'd do "man csh".) : Regards, : Ed : Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce : Control Data Asia/Pacific Region : Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 : FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C -- ||| Craig Maloney | Phone: [313] 390-8096 | Automotive Safety Center ||| ||| Opinions expressed are my own. | Ford Motor Company ||| ||| "This message rated [R]. May contain violent punctuation, explicit ||| ||| grammatical errors, misspelled language and a shocking ending with ||| ||| a preposition." -- Michael Patterson | Censor Congress. ||| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 27 07:47:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29168; Tue, 27 Feb 96 07:47:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00200; Tue, 27 Feb 96 07:36:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lbbc.lb.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00191; Tue, 27 Feb 96 07:36:03 -0800 Received: by lbbc.lb.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA152866; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 09:33:18 -0600 Message-Id: <9602271533.AA152866@lbbc.lb.com> Received: from smtpgate id: 313323FD.755 (WordPerfect SMTP Gateway V3.1a 04/27/92) Received: from lbbc (WP Connection) From: (Kim Scarborough) To: Subject: Re: Anyone use VMS Pine? (SMTP Id#: 10035) - Forward Date: Tue Feb 27 09:32:13 1996 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 603 This may not be terribly helpful, but I remember reading back when WWW access wasn't as common as it is now about somewhere you could E-mail with a URL and it would E-mail back the text. Does anyone know what that address is? It could help our web-less friend here. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 27 08:53:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01447; Tue, 27 Feb 96 08:53:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01435; Tue, 27 Feb 96 08:37:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [129.179.17.11] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01429; Tue, 27 Feb 96 08:37:45 -0800 Received: from localhost by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 28 Feb 96 00:37:16 +0800 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 00:37:16 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Craig Maloney Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Suspending Pine In-Reply-To: <4gv01f$3lk@ef2007.efhd.ford.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 604 On 27 Feb 1996, Craig Maloney wrote: > On 25 Feb 1996 18:36:38 -0800 in comp.mail.pine Ed Greshko (Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com) wrote: > : On Sun, 25 Feb 1996, InsAne Bassist wrote: > > : > How do you exit when you suspend Pine? > > : Try using "fg" meaning "foreground". To learn more about fg and > : other job control commands on Unix, type "man fg". > > You will not find a man page for fg. Try instead to do a manpage on your > particular shell. (For instance, I use csh here, so in order to find out what > fg means for csh, I'd do "man csh".) > Don't be so sure of yourself... :-) :-) hobbes[2]% man fg Reformatting page. Wait... done jobs(1) User Commands jobs(1) NAME jobs, fg, bg, stop, notify - control process execution SYNOPSIS sh jobs [ -p | -l ] [%job_id ... ] jobs -x command [ arguments ] fg [ %job_id ... ] bg [ %job_id ... ] stop %job_id ... stop pid ... csh jobs[ -l ] fg [ %job_id ] bg [ %job_id] ... notify [ %job_id ] ... stop %job_id ... It all depends on the system you are on...... Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 27 19:44:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02189; Tue, 27 Feb 96 19:44:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28194; Tue, 27 Feb 96 19:37:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28188; Tue, 27 Feb 96 19:37:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trcet-00038TC; Tue, 27 Feb 96 19:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sholstea@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (Steve Holstead) Subject: abort on .pine-interrupted-mail Date: 28 Feb 1996 00:02:35 GMT Message-Id: <4h062r$1bre@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 605 I am running PINE 3.91 on AIX4.1.3. I have discovered a problem with pine and was wondering if you have heard of this problem: The problem arises when I find myself with a .pine-interrupted-mail file that has a 0 bytecount. As normal the startup process checks to see if the interrupted file exists. A message is then issued suggesting I Compose the interrupted message. When I reply y, pine aborts. I can make this happen simply by touching .pine-interrupted-mail and starting pine etc. -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Holstead University of Alberta Steve.Holstead@ualberta.ca Computer and Network Services Tel.: (403) 492-4854 System Software Group Fax.: (403) 492-1729 #154 General Services Building Edmonton, Alberta T6G-2H1 C A N A D A From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 27 21:31:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04453; Tue, 27 Feb 96 21:31:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21330; Tue, 27 Feb 96 21:27:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21322; Tue, 27 Feb 96 21:27:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0treND-00038FC; Tue, 27 Feb 96 21:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "A. Sarma Kovvali" Subject: saving an edited mail Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 12:08:25 -0500 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 606 hi, i wonder if there is any way i can save a mail i received after editing it. i don't want to keep the whole mail for space reasons. is there any way to do it? right now what i do is, i edit the mail and send it to myself. thanks sarma ----------------- A. Sarma Kovvali 496, Elm St. Kearny, NJ 07032 (201)991-5041 ---------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 27 22:06:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05392; Tue, 27 Feb 96 22:06:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00337; Tue, 27 Feb 96 22:02:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00331; Tue, 27 Feb 96 22:02:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0treup-00038FC; Tue, 27 Feb 96 21:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nickkral@caa32.alumni.berkeley.edu (Nick Kralevich) Subject: Should pine be SETGID mail? Date: 28 Feb 1996 04:26:19 GMT Message-Id: <4h0lhb$r4l@agate.berkeley.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 607 I installed Linux RedHat 2.1 on one of my computers. I noticed that I'll occasionally have errors in pine. Usually the errors occur when pine checks for new mail just as new mail is arriving. The error I get is "MAILBOX INTEGRATY VIOLATED -- CONTACT CONSULTANT" (or somthing like that, I don't remember the exact error message). Quiting pine and restarting seems to solve the problem. I think this is due to the fact that pine doesn't have permission to create a lock file in the /var/spool/mail directory, and thus pine and sendmail collide when trying to deliver mail. On Slackware 2.3, I seem to remember pine being SETGID mail. However, pine on this system is not setgid mail: hercules:~# ls -la /usr/bin/pine -rwxr-xr-x 1 root bin 863492 Aug 22 1995 /usr/bin/pine* hercules:~# ls -lad /var/spool/mail drwxrwxr-x 2 root mail 1024 Feb 17 14:05 /var/spool/mail/ Should pine be setgid to the group mail? Does this open up any security holes? Take care, -- Nick Kralevich nickkral@cory.eecs.berkeley.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 00:40:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09469; Wed, 28 Feb 96 00:40:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24026; Wed, 28 Feb 96 00:32:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24020; Wed, 28 Feb 96 00:32:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trhHD-00038FC; Wed, 28 Feb 96 00:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Carlos PINTO-PEREIRA Subject: Re: Copy / Paste from a MAC to PINE or PICO Content-Type: multipart/mixed; Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 07:20:59 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 608 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------------------209192844413773 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii dennisk@primenet.com (Dennis K) wrote: I tried several times copy/paste several lines (8-9 ?), but files with 15-20 lines go looping. But i think that the explanation in on th EOF. So NEVERV COPY THE LAST PARAGRAPH. Try CArlos ________________________________________________________________________ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ CERN LHC/IAS _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ 1211 Geneve 23 - CH _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ Tel: (022) 767 43 25 _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/_ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ \ _/_/ _/ _/ \ _/ _/ e_mail - Pinto-Pereira@Cern.Ch Url - http://nicewww.cern.ch/~pintopc/welcome.htm "La culture c'est ce qui reste quand on a tout oublie" ________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------209192844413773 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain From: dennisk@primenet.com (Dennis K) Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine,soc.culture.portuguese Subject: Re: Copy / Paste from a MAC to PINE or PICO Date: 22 Feb 1996 10:49:01 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: References: In article , Carlos PINTO-PEREIRA did write: > Because i had tried it several times before send the mail, SMALL PIECES > do normally work, but a all file go on a endless looping. > I think the EOF character is the trable maker > > CArlos Carlos, Would you clarify thlast sentence above? Thanks. Dennis Kessler http://www.primenet.com/~dennisk ---------------------------------209192844413773-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 02:30:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13137; Wed, 28 Feb 96 02:30:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25557; Wed, 28 Feb 96 02:22:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25537; Wed, 28 Feb 96 02:22:38 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 28 Feb 1996 09:58:15 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA18498; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 09:58:44 GMT Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 09:58:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Steve Holstead Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: abort on .pine-interrupted-mail In-Reply-To: <4h062r$1bre@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 609 This problem has been known about for some months. I *think* that it is fixed in the latest release of the c-client/imapd kit, available as imapd-3.6BETA from ftp.cac.washington.edu. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 28 Feb 1996, Steve Holstead wrote: > I am running PINE 3.91 on AIX4.1.3. I have discovered a problem with pine > and was wondering if you have heard of this problem: > > > The problem arises when I find myself with a .pine-interrupted-mail file > that has a 0 bytecount. As normal the startup process checks to see if > the interrupted file exists. A message is then issued suggesting I > Compose the interrupted message. When I reply y, pine aborts. > > I can make this happen simply by touching .pine-interrupted-mail and > starting pine etc. > > > -- > ______________________________________________________________________________ > > Steve Holstead University of Alberta > Steve.Holstead@ualberta.ca Computer and Network Services > Tel.: (403) 492-4854 System Software Group > Fax.: (403) 492-1729 #154 General Services Building > Edmonton, Alberta T6G-2H1 > C A N A D A > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 03:13:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14357; Wed, 28 Feb 96 03:13:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26131; Wed, 28 Feb 96 03:02:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26125; Wed, 28 Feb 96 03:01:44 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 28 Feb 1996 10:34:08 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA13795; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 10:33:55 GMT Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 10:33:54 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Nick Kralevich Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Should pine be SETGID mail? In-Reply-To: <4h0lhb$r4l@agate.berkeley.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 610 Pine is NOT designed to be run with privileges. You should NOT run it setgid mail. I believe there is some discussion about file-locking at the Pine Information Centre: http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/tech-notes/low-level.html#locking You may also like to search the archives of this mailing list there: http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/pine-info/index.html Try searching for Security issues with PINE Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 28 Feb 1996, Nick Kralevich wrote: > I installed Linux RedHat 2.1 on one of my computers. I noticed that I'll > occasionally have errors in pine. Usually the errors occur when > pine checks for new mail just as new mail is arriving. The error > I get is "MAILBOX INTEGRATY VIOLATED -- CONTACT CONSULTANT" (or > somthing like that, I don't remember the exact error message). > > Quiting pine and restarting seems to solve the problem. > > I think this is due to the fact that pine doesn't have permission to > create a lock file in the /var/spool/mail directory, and thus pine and > sendmail collide when trying to deliver mail. On Slackware 2.3, I seem to > remember pine being SETGID mail. However, pine on this system is not > setgid mail: > > hercules:~# ls -la /usr/bin/pine > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root bin 863492 Aug 22 1995 /usr/bin/pine* > hercules:~# ls -lad /var/spool/mail > drwxrwxr-x 2 root mail 1024 Feb 17 14:05 /var/spool/mail/ > > Should pine be setgid to the group mail? Does this open up any security > holes? > > Take care, > -- Nick Kralevich > nickkral@cory.eecs.berkeley.edu > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 03:26:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14610; Wed, 28 Feb 96 03:26:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04828; Wed, 28 Feb 96 03:09:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04822; Wed, 28 Feb 96 03:09:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trjg0-00038FC; Wed, 28 Feb 96 03:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Ellis Subject: mime mail from pegasus mailer Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 14:19:19 +0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 611 When people attach a file to a message in the dos/windoze mailer Pegasus Mail, it does something strange - splits it up or similar. When mail from a pegasus mailer reaches someone using pine, we get two messages. One is the body of the message, the other is the attachment - with the mime-encoded stuff in the body of the message after little warning of the nature of "following is a mime-encoded message blah blah blah". This is causing big problems in our organisation (well, not that big yet, but irritating). Basically, pine thinks the message is just a collection of text - we have to extract it and decode it manually, which is out of the question for our users (not to mention ridiculous). Has anyone any ideas? Peter Ellis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 03:29:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14659; Wed, 28 Feb 96 03:29:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26404; Wed, 28 Feb 96 03:25:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26398; Wed, 28 Feb 96 03:24:50 -0800 Received: (from vs@localhost) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.4/8.7.1) id MAA08846; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 12:13:19 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 12:13:19 +0100 (MET) From: Vladimir Solnicky =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=28Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD=29?= To: Nick Kralevich Cc: The Pine Discussion List Subject: Re: Should pine be SETGID mail? In-Reply-To: <4h0lhb$r4l@agate.berkeley.edu> Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Organizace: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_(=DATIA)_AV_=C8R?= X-Chameleon-Return-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 612 On 28 Feb 1996, Nick Kralevich wrote: > hercules:~# ls -la /usr/bin/pine > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root bin 863492 Aug 22 1995 /usr/bin/pine* > hercules:~# ls -lad /var/spool/mail > drwxrwxr-x 2 root mail 1024 Feb 17 14:05 /var/spool/mail/ >=20 > Should pine be setgid to the group mail? Does this open up any security > holes? If I remember well, The Pine Team said yhat pine is not designed to run setgid mail and that your problem should be solved by changing the rights of /var/spool/mail to 1777 (note the leading 1). It should restrict the w right a bit, but allow making locking files. It should work on System V.=20 Fore more info look to the archives. Hope this helps. V. S. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 6884677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz ftp.utia.cas.cz http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-en.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 05:19:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18252; Wed, 28 Feb 96 05:19:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27964; Wed, 28 Feb 96 05:13:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27958; Wed, 28 Feb 96 05:13:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trlgq-00038TC; Wed, 28 Feb 96 05:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Margaritsanakis Subject: Signature modification. Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 12:52:30 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 613 I was wondering if there's any way of adding some lines to your signature every time an e-mail is sent -- a quote, some piece of specific information, etc. I read something a while back about it, but nobody posted about a solution. Is there any way to run a shell command each time an e-mail is sent? At least that would enable me to write a small script to change the .sig to what I would like it to be. /-------------------------------------\ /-------------------------------------\ |PGP: 490A7B8678843A8B01388E4DF0E6B652 | "And when we meet again my hand | |PGP Key on WWW and Key Servers. | shall hold a Silmaril from the Iron | | John Margaritsanakis | Crown; for you have not looked the | | Department of Computer Science | last upon Beren son of Barahir." | | Essex University, UK. | The Silmarillion | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Check out http://cswww2.essex.ac.uk/users/imarga/ | \-------------------------------------/ \-------------------------------------/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 06:02:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19143; Wed, 28 Feb 96 06:02:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07128; Wed, 28 Feb 96 05:54:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07122; Wed, 28 Feb 96 05:54:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trmIh-00038FC; Wed, 28 Feb 96 05:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dennisk@primenet.com (Dennis K) Subject: Re: Getting ^^ Date: 26 Feb 1996 18:01:01 -0700 Message-Id: References: <199602262224.QAA27287@opus.csd.uwm.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 614 In article <199602262224.QAA27287@opus.csd.uwm.edu>, nobody@psg.com did write: > We gave up on control caret here and added CTRL \ to do the same thing. > I can send the diffs to the 3.87 sources if people are interested. So now > both commands do the same thing so we don't have to tell people used to > the old way to change it. Our problem was we couldn't seem to make a > control caret on a macintosh off the 6 key. Please help here. I don't quite understand all of the above. On my Mac, sometimes ^^ works and sometimes I have to go the esc-esc route. It matters not whether I dial into the shell with Microphone, or telnet into the shell with the telnet program. Dennis Kessler http://www.primenet.com/~dennisk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 06:57:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20353; Wed, 28 Feb 96 06:57:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29447; Wed, 28 Feb 96 06:48:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29441; Wed, 28 Feb 96 06:48:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trn6R-00038FC; Wed, 28 Feb 96 06:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hans.rimbach@hik.fzk.de Subject: Re: Printing from Pine Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 13:41:55 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 615 On 24 Feb 1996, Brent Blumenstein wrote: > Funny - it works quite well qith my Deskjet 500. I use pine for AIX from > a PC with OS/2 Warp Connect. It has also worked well with previous > versions of OS/2. PINE for AIX with OS/2 ???????? How should this work ???? ***************************************************************************** * Hans Juergen Rimbach ** * * FZK Karlsruhe, Abt. HDI ** * * Email: rimbach@hdi.fzk.de ** * * Tel: 07247-82-5657 ** * * Fax: 07247-82-4972 ** * ***************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 08:17:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22876; Wed, 28 Feb 96 08:17:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00888; Wed, 28 Feb 96 08:01:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00882; Wed, 28 Feb 96 08:01:40 -0800 Received: from themis.derecho.unam.mx by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02756; Wed, 28 Feb 96 08:01:38 -0800 Received: by themis (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA20162; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 10:05:06 -0600 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 10:05:06 -0600 (CST) From: Ivan Martinez Rojas To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: READ-ONLY INBOX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 934 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 616 Hello to the list! I'm now having a problem that i've seen before in the list, but i didn't pay attention ( "i'll never have that problem"), but now i'm in trouble. When i open my INBOX, pine says that it's an READ-ONLY folder, and then i can't delete messages (that's strange, because i could do that yesterday). I hope that someone could help me, because i've seen the pine configuration and i didn't see anything odd. Tanks to everybody, have a nice day! ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico Facultad de Filosofia y Letras Colegio de Filosofia _ "Es curioso, pero vivir consiste | \ /_\ |\ | en construir futuros recuerdos..." Ivan Martinez Rojas | \/ \| \| 6847149 Ernesto Sabato, en El Tunel :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 08:28:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23297; Wed, 28 Feb 96 08:28:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00293; Wed, 28 Feb 96 07:31:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gsosun1.gso.uri.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00278; Wed, 28 Feb 96 07:30:44 -0800 Received: from micmac.gso.uri.edu by gsosun1 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07562; Wed, 28 Feb 96 10:33:03 EST Received: from beothuk.gso.uri.edu by micmac.gso.uri.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA11586; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 10:30:53 -0500 Received: by beothuk.gso.uri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA11572; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 10:30:50 -0500 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 10:30:50 -0500 From: hebert@micmac.gso.uri.edu (Dave Hebert) Message-Id: <199602281530.KAA11572@beothuk.gso.uri.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Compiling Pine 3.91 on Solaris 2.5 using gcc X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 617 Hi, I am trying to compile pine on Solaris 2.5 using the latest gcc compiler. I have taken the tar file from ftp.cac.washington.edu and made the following changes to the files: in build, changed makeargs="CC=cc" to makeargs="CC=gcc" in pico/makefile.sol, uncommented and commented the C flags (i.e., #for GNU C CC= gcc LDCC= gcc # LDCC= /usr/bin/cc # If you don't have /usr/bin/cc (our Solaris 2.2 doesn't seem to have it, # it only has /usr/ucb/cc) then change LDCC to the following line and # give that a try. This is still using the Solaris compiler but # leaving out the UCB compatibility includes and libraries. #LDCC= cc5.sol CFLAGS= -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi #otherwise #CFLAGS= -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL in pine/makefile.sol, the same as the pico makefile.sol (i.e., # Use these for the Solaris C compiler #CFLAGS= -DSV4 $(OPTIMIZE) $(PROFILE) $(DEBUG) -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" # LDCC= /usr/bin/cc # If you don't have /usr/bin/cc (our Solaris 2.2 doesn't seem to have it, # it only has /usr/ucb/cc) then change LDCC to the following line and # give that a try. This is still using the Solaris compiler but # leaving out the UCB compatibility includes and libraries. #LDCC= $(PICODIR)/cc5.sol # Use these for the gcc compiler CC= gcc CFLAGS= -DSV4 $(OPTIMIZE) $(PROFILE) $(DEBUG) -ansi -DANSI LDCC= gcc and then did a build sol. Below is the following output of the attempt. I was wondering if anyone can tell me what flags to set - I have tried several combinations (e.g., -traditional) and get different results but never a complete build of the package. Thanks....Dave beothuk 678: build sol make args are "CC=gcc" Making c-client library, mtest and imapd make build SYSTYPE=non-ANSI OS=sol echo sol > OSTYPE rm -rf systype ln -s non-ANSI systype cd non-ANSI/c-client; make sol make mtest OS=sv4 EXTRADRIVERS="" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto \ RSHPATH=/usr/bin/rsh CFLAGS="-g -Dconst= " \ RANLIB=true LDFLAGS="-lsocket -lnsl -lgen" ./drivers imap nntp pop3 mh mtx tenex mmdf bezerk news phile dummy rm -f OSTYPE CFLAGS LDFLAGS osdep.h echo sv4 > OSTYPE echo -g -Dconst= > CFLAGS echo -lsocket -lnsl -lgen > LDFLAGS ln -s os_sv4.h osdep.h gcc -g -Dconst= -c mail.c In file included from osdep.h:40, from mail.c:40: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' gcc -g -Dconst= -c bezerk.c In file included from osdep.h:40, from bezerk.c:54: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' gcc -g -Dconst= -c mtx.c In file included from osdep.h:40, from mtx.c:42: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' gcc -g -Dconst= -c tenex2.c In file included from osdep.h:40, from tenex2.c:42: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' gcc -g -Dconst= -c mbox.c In file included from osdep.h:40, from mbox.c:41: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' gcc -g -Dconst= -c mh.c In file included from osdep.h:40, from mh.c:41: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' gcc -g -Dconst= -c mmdf.c In file included from osdep.h:40, from mmdf.c:43: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' gcc -g -Dconst= -c imap2.c In file included from osdep.h:40, from imap2.c:48: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' gcc -g -Dconst= -c pop3.c In file included from osdep.h:40, from pop3.c:38: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' gcc -g -Dconst= -c news.c In file included from osdep.h:40, from news.c:41: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' gcc -g -Dconst= -c nntpcunx.c In file included from osdep.h:40, from nntpcunx.c:38: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' gcc -g -Dconst= -c phile.c In file included from osdep.h:40, from phile.c:42: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' gcc -g -Dconst= -c dummy.c In file included from osdep.h:40, from dummy.c:42: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' gcc -g -Dconst= -c smtp.c In file included from osdep.h:40, from smtp.c:47: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' gcc -g -Dconst= -c nntp.c In file included from osdep.h:40, from nntp.c:40: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' gcc -g -Dconst= -c rfc822.c In file included from osdep.h:40, from rfc822.c:49: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' gcc -g -Dconst= -c misc.c In file included from osdep.h:40, from misc.c:47: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' gcc -g -Dconst= -DSTDPROTO=bezerkproto \ -DRSH=\"rsh\" -DRSHPATH=\"/usr/bin/rsh\" \ -c os_sv4.c In file included from osdep.h:40, from os_sv4.c:38: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' mv os_sv4.o osdep.o gcc -g -Dconst= -c sm_unix.c In file included from osdep.h:40, from sm_unix.c:38: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' gcc -g -Dconst= -c newsrc.c In file included from osdep.h:40, from newsrc.c:40: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' rm -f c-client.a ar rc c-client.a mail.o bezerk.o mtx.o tenex2.o mbox.o mh.o mmdf.o imap2.o pop3.o news.o nntpcunx.o phile.o dummy.o smtp.o nntp.o rfc822.o misc.o osdep.o sm_unix.o newsrc.o true c-client.a gcc -g -Dconst= -c mtest.c In file included from osdep.h:40, from mtest.c:48: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' gcc -g -Dconst= -o mtest mtest.o c-client.a -lsocket -lnsl -lgen cd non-ANSI/ms;make If CCMD library is not available, ms will not be made. This is alright since ms is only a demonstration program. ../../../ccmd directory not found, so make.ms is ignored cd non-ANSI/ipopd;make gcc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -c ipop2d.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:40, from ipop2d.c:40: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' gcc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o ipop2d ipop2d.o ../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS` gcc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -c ipop3d.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:40, from ipop3d.c:40: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' gcc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o ipop3d ipop3d.o ../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS` cd non-ANSI/imapd;make gcc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -c imapd.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:40, from imapd.c:40: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' gcc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o imapd imapd.o ../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS` Making Pico gcc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi -O attach.c gcc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi -O ansi.c gcc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi -O basic.c gcc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi -O bind.c gcc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi -O browse.c gcc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi -O buffer.c gcc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi -O composer.c gcc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi -O display.c gcc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi -O file.c gcc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi -O fileio.c gcc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi -O line.c gcc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi -O osdep.c osdep.c: In function `alt_editor': osdep.c:634: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast osdep.c:635: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast osdep.c:637: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast osdep.c: In function `P_open': osdep.c:1410: warning: return makes pointer from integer without a cast gcc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi -O pico.c gcc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi -O random.c gcc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi -O region.c gcc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi -O search.c gcc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi -O spell.c gcc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi -O tinfo.c gcc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi -O window.c gcc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi -O word.c ar ru libpico.a attach.o ansi.o basic.o bind.o browse.o buffer.o composer.o display.o file.o fileio.o line.o osdep.o pico.o random.o region.o search.o spell.o tinfo.o window.o word.o ar: creating libpico.a true libpico.a gcc -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi main.c libpico.a -ltermlib -o pico Making Pine. rm -f os.h ln -s osdep/os-sv4.h os.h ./cmplhlp2.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.h gcc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -ansi -DANSI -c addrbook.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:40, from headers.h:78, from addrbook.c:65: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:46, from headers.h:78, from addrbook.c:65: /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/unistd.h:233: conflicting types for `rename' /opt/FSFgcc/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.1/include/stdio.h:153: previous declaration of `rename' *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `addrbook.o' Links to executables are in bin directory: size: bin/pine: cannot open bin/mtest: 407380 + 5372 + 1896 = 414648 bin/imapd: 428660 + 5520 + 9080 = 443260 bin/pico: 128580 + 10917 + 8219 = 147716 Done beothuk 679: ----- End Included Message ----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 09:15:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25929; Wed, 28 Feb 96 09:15:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10607; Wed, 28 Feb 96 09:00:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10599; Wed, 28 Feb 96 09:00:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trpAI-00038VC; Wed, 28 Feb 96 08:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Pico config? Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 19:15:32 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4gco8a$1rq@netnews.hinet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4gco8a$1rq@netnews.hinet.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 618 On 20 Feb 1996, Donny Lee wrote: > Hello, I'm new using pine and pico, and tring to find a > newsgroup talking about pico, but no luck. Could somebody > point me a place to go? Or I can have the question, as title, > here? Pico as such (apart from Pine) is an editor, and there is a newsgroup dedicated to editors: comp.editors . I follow it, and occasionally Pico questions come up. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 09:40:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27148; Wed, 28 Feb 96 09:40:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03267; Wed, 28 Feb 96 09:19:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from franklin-fddi.cris.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03261; Wed, 28 Feb 96 09:19:37 -0800 Received: from darius.cris.com by franklin-fddi.cris.com [1-800-745-CRIS (voice)] Received: from viking.cris.com by darius.cris.com (8.7.1) id MAA08732; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 12:19:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 12:19:24 -0500 (EST) From: SHADKEN To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine info you requested (last changed Sep 12 15:05) (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 619 As instructed in the pine robot's reply, I'm hoping that some ONE or THING can respond to this inquiry. Thanks in advance. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 15:43:39 -0500 (EST) From: SHADKEN To: UW Email Robot Subject: Re: Pine info you requested (last changed Sep 12 15:05) Thanks for sending me the "Secrets of Pine 3.9" info. I have two problems that perhaps you can help me with: When I enter "Y" to print, the message comes up, "attach to ANSI?," to which I say "y" or hit return. So far, instead of a printout, all I get is three or so characters at the upper left of my screen. A second problem is in editing a message I'm writing. Grudgingly and wastefully, so far I've had to "cancel" and start again. Can you tell me (1) how do I print to my local, stand-alone printer, and (2) how do I edit a message? Thanks in advance. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 09:59:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27864; Wed, 28 Feb 96 09:59:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03763; Wed, 28 Feb 96 09:39:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03757; Wed, 28 Feb 96 09:39:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trplI-00038VC; Wed, 28 Feb 96 09:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sholstea@gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca (Steve Holstead) Subject: Re: abort on .pine-interrupted-mail Date: 28 Feb 1996 15:58:17 GMT Message-Id: <4h1u2p$a88@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <4h062r$1bre@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 620 Mike Brudenell (pmb1@mailer.york.ac.uk) wrote: : This problem has been known about for some months. I *think* that it is : fixed in the latest release of the c-client/imapd kit, available as : imapd-3.6BETA from ftp.cac.washington.edu. Please forgive me but I don't know the source as good as I probably should. I am not using IMAP to get my mail. I am using an NFS mount. I was under the impression that c-client.a was only going to be used if I used IMAP to get my mail.... -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Holstead University of Alberta Steve.Holstead@ualberta.ca Computer and Network Services Tel.: (403) 492-4854 System Software Group Fax.: (403) 492-1729 #154 General Services Building Edmonton, Alberta T6G-2H1 C A N A D A From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 10:15:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28834; Wed, 28 Feb 96 10:15:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12155; Wed, 28 Feb 96 10:00:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12144; Wed, 28 Feb 96 10:00:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trq7v-00038FC; Wed, 28 Feb 96 09:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nevin Kapur Subject: Recalling expunged postings.. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 01:17:10 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 621 Is there any way in Pine of recalling postings that I have expelled in using "x" ? Nevin. ____________________________________________________________________________ Nevin Kapur * Electrical Engineering * Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay INTERNET http://ee.iitb.ernet.in/~nevin, nevin@ee.iitb.ernet.in MAIL C20 Garib Soc.,5th NS Rd.,JVPD Scheme,Bombay,400049.India PHONE 628 1091, 624 0272 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 11:05:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01521; Wed, 28 Feb 96 11:05:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05297; Wed, 28 Feb 96 10:39:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05291; Wed, 28 Feb 96 10:39:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trqiZ-00038FC; Wed, 28 Feb 96 10:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: finc27@zx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de (Thomas Adams) Subject: incoming folders Date: 28 Feb 1996 14:43:43 GMT Message-Id: <4h1pmv$a09@nx2.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 622 I use PINE 3.91 and procmail 3.1 and have a problem: All my filtered mail is moved to ~/mail/IN.NameOfMailinglist Believe it or not, I don't know how to add these folders to the incoming folders list. I once tried it but PINE wrote something like 'Folder ... created' which is probably not what I want. Then another question: Is there a patch out there so that PINE checks different mail folders for new mail than /usr/spool/mail/$LOGNAME? -- Thomas Adams From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 12:54:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07254; Wed, 28 Feb 96 12:54:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09098; Wed, 28 Feb 96 12:43:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09092; Wed, 28 Feb 96 12:43:54 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23974; Wed, 28 Feb 96 12:43:53 -0800 X-Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for dlm+postmaster; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 07:10:01 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11311; Mon, 26 Feb 96 07:10:01 -0800 X-Received: from indy-les.iimtemix.unam.mx by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01651; Mon, 26 Feb 96 07:09:55 -0800 X-Received: by indy-les.iimtemix.unam.mx (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) for owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu id JAA09978; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:09:59 -0800 From: "Luz Abril Torres Mendez" Message-Id: <9602260909.ZM9976@indy-les.iimtemix.unam.mx> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:09:58 -0800 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 6apr95 MediaMail) To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: I can't use the arrows key Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 12:43:49 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Subject: Resent-Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 623 Hello everybody, I am using Pine on HPUX8.05, but my problem is that I can't use the arrows key to move in any menu. Is there something wrong in the configuration? Thanks in advance. Abril. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 13:04:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07844; Wed, 28 Feb 96 13:04:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16709; Wed, 28 Feb 96 12:39:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16703; Wed, 28 Feb 96 12:39:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trsdF-00038FC; Wed, 28 Feb 96 12:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) Subject: Re: saving an edited mail Date: 28 Feb 1996 17:31:32 GMT Message-Id: <4h23hk$a4m@fcnews.fc.hp.com> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 624 A. Sarma Kovvali (ask2617@hertz.njit.edu) wrote: : i wonder if there is any way i can save a mail i received after editing : it. i don't want to keep the whole mail for space reasons. is there any : way to do it? right now what i do is, i edit the mail and send it to myself. An interesting challenge! (to which I will submit a clean-but-not-elegant initial solution). Hit F (forward) Hit ^R (Rich header) Move down to Fcc and replace sent-mail (or whatever is there) with the relative or absolute pathname to where you want to save it. Move down to message area. Delete all lines that you don't want to save. [other edits as necessary] Hit ^X (Send) [confirm if necessary] It's saved to your document. -- + DAVID MULLANEY Mailstop #99, Loctn. 1UN5 (970) 229-7629 + + > Net: mullaney@fc.hp.com http://hpfcdn/ -*- fax 2838 + + > Software Engineer -- Ignition/UDL/OSSD /\/\/\ + + > Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, Colorado _-/\^^/ \ + From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 13:12:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08797; Wed, 28 Feb 96 13:12:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09411; Wed, 28 Feb 96 13:00:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09405; Wed, 28 Feb 96 13:00:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trsxH-00038VC; Wed, 28 Feb 96 12:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) Subject: Re: Pine on a celarus(sp.?) machine Date: 28 Feb 1996 17:44:08 GMT Message-Id: <4h2498$a4m@fcnews.fc.hp.com> References: <4h1mj8$d77@info-server.surrey.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 625 Miss Sally J Kentfield (cs51sk@surrey.ac.uk) wrote: : They say they will put Pine on the whole system, if they can find another : celarus (that's what the name sounded like, anyways) machine that has : found a configuration for Pine that works. : Please post if you know of ANYONE RUNNING PINE ON A CELARUS MACHINE. You'll probably have more luck finding someone running Solaris on a Sun. -David M. ---------- Disclaimer: Of course, this is my own insight and not supported by my employer From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 14:55:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13829; Wed, 28 Feb 96 14:55:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20463; Wed, 28 Feb 96 14:43:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from wesley.it.emerson.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20457; Wed, 28 Feb 96 14:43:09 -0800 Received: from WESLEY.IT.EMERSON.EDU by WESLEY.IT.EMERSON.EDU (PMDF V5.0-4 #7669) id <01I1R73DC3TC000204@WESLEY.IT.EMERSON.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 17:41:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 17:41:20 -0500 (EST) From: ROB 'HARPO' LAROSE Subject: Commenting from file To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <01I1R73DD6EA000204@WESLEY.IT.EMERSON.EDU> X-Vms-To: in%"pine-info@cac.washington.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 626 Personal_Name: Rob LARose From: RLAROSE@EMERSON.EDU Subject: VMS Pine Hi everyone. Can someone tell me where I can get the latest version of PINE for VMS? I'm currently running OPENVMS 6.2. Or, better yet, can ya tell me how to get 3.89 to look somewhere other than a user's directory for the .pinerc file? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 15:11:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14670; Wed, 28 Feb 96 15:11:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21086; Wed, 28 Feb 96 15:04:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21080; Wed, 28 Feb 96 15:04:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trute-00038FC; Wed, 28 Feb 96 15:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhh@pgh.nauticom.net (Jack Hunter) Subject: Quoted text Question Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 19:36:59 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 627 Is there anyway to change the prefixed > in front of quoted text to : I have used this for quite awhile in YARN and would like to use it in Pine. Thank you for any help. -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Jack/Pittsburgh \Home Page= http://www.nauticom.net/www/jhh jhh@pgh.nauticom.net \ Stop in and say hello! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 16:03:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16904; Wed, 28 Feb 96 16:03:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14445; Wed, 28 Feb 96 15:49:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14439; Wed, 28 Feb 96 15:49:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trvZC-00038FC; Wed, 28 Feb 96 15:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) Subject: Re: I can't use the arrows key Date: 28 Feb 1996 22:20:59 GMT Message-Id: <4h2kgb$gp1@fcnews.fc.hp.com> References: <9602260909.ZM9976@indy-les.iimtemix.unam.mx> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 628 : I am using Pine on HPUX8.05, but my problem is that I can't use the arrows : key to move in any menu. Is there something wrong in the configuration? I've never been able to use the arrows in PINE unless I was calling in via a PC to my workstation. (BTW, I'm using HP-UX 9.07 and 10.10). -David -- + DAVID MULLANEY Mailstop #99, Loctn. 1UN5 (970) 229-7629 + + > Net: mullaney@fc.hp.com http://hpfcdn/ -*- fax 2838 + + > Software Engineer -- Ignition/UDL/OSSD /\/\/\ + + > Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, Colorado _-/\^^/ \ + From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 16:04:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16943; Wed, 28 Feb 96 16:04:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22407; Wed, 28 Feb 96 15:54:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22401; Wed, 28 Feb 96 15:54:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trvh1-00038FC; Wed, 28 Feb 96 15:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brian Horn Subject: SV4 Build without ln -s ??? Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 19:37:43 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 629 How would one go about building Pine and Pico for an SV4 system if the ability to do symbolic linking 'ln -s' has been removed. Are the binaries for SV4 around anywhere ??? | Brian H. Horn bhhorn@creighton.edu | | Opinions expressed are my own, not necessarily those of | | my employer. | | Subvert the Dominant Paradigm | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 16:44:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18515; Wed, 28 Feb 96 16:44:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15600; Wed, 28 Feb 96 16:37:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ono.lincoln.ac.nz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15590; Wed, 28 Feb 96 16:37:29 -0800 Received: from stan.lincoln.ac.nz by ono.lincoln.ac.nz (PMDF V4.3-13 #7492) id <01I1SCLUC3F403STRY@ono.lincoln.ac.nz>; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 13:29:49 +1300 Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 13:28:09 +1300 (NZDT) From: Dave Lane Subject: Changing *username* on outgoing mail messages To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: X-Envelope-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 630 Please forgive me if this is a FAQ - I have not been able to find reference to it. I am sysadmin of a Linux PC and do most of my work, including email, from the root account. I have the /root/.pinerc file instructing pine sessions run by root to use the same folders as are used by my personal account, dlane (ie. root and dlane use the same .../mail directory). Problem is, whenever mail is sent out from root launched pine sessions, it provides the return address Dave Lane . Is there any way I can configure pine to use a different user name (ie. dlane) in place of root for outgoing mail?? Please say yes! I do not subscribe to the pine-info mailing list, so please send mail to dlane@lincoln.ac.nz! Cheers from New Zealand, Dave +======================================================================+ | Dave Lane dlane@lincoln.ac.nz | | NZ Forest Research Institute | | DNRE, Lincoln University Wk: +64 3 325 2811 x8793 | | P.O. Box 84 Hm: 343 3192 | | Lincoln, NZ Fx: 325 3845 | +======================================================================+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 17:01:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19284; Wed, 28 Feb 96 17:01:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15964; Wed, 28 Feb 96 16:49:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15958; Wed, 28 Feb 96 16:49:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trwVp-00038FC; Wed, 28 Feb 96 16:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Morgan A. Miskell" Subject: Pico Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 15:04:16 -0800 Message-Id: <312BA4F0.1780@voyager.caro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 631 Hi, I have a Sun Sparc 5 running Solaris 2.3, I pulled down the source to pico and pine. I don't seem to have all the libraries required and don't really have the time to pull them down to do a compile. Does anyone know/have a compiled version they can point me to? (I have pine ok, still need pico) Thx -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Morgan A. Miskell mormis@caro.net TEL:(704)-643-8330 VP of Prof. Services Carolina Internet, LTD. FAX:(704)-643-8331 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 17:09:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20339; Wed, 28 Feb 96 17:09:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24002; Wed, 28 Feb 96 17:01:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23996; Wed, 28 Feb 96 17:01:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0trwea-00038FC; Wed, 28 Feb 96 16:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: adreyer@uni-paderborn.de (Achim Dreyer) Subject: Re: Blinking text Date: 21 Feb 1996 17:34:31 GMT Message-Id: <4gfl37$4qi@news.uni-paderborn.de> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 632 : On Fri, 16 Feb 1996, Erik Johansen wrote: : > Is there a way to make Pine not show this kind of escape characters etc. : > : > In one of the newsgroups I have had my screen lock up several times : > because of a person that uses escape sequences in his From: address. : I asked about this a while back on this list. I seem to recall that Pine : 3.92 will contain some enhancement/changes to suppress the display of : such "problem" characters. : ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Here's a snippet from "alt.2600". Please DON'T USE THEM!! There are many people out here whose terminals aren't capable to display these ANSI-Escape sequences and may go wild !! > Date: Fri, 24 Feb 95 15:10:10 EST > From: clafave@teleport.com (Chris LaFave) > Newsgroups: alt.2600 > Subject: ANSI codes This is the format for ansi codes: [A;B;Cm A=text attributes 0 all attributes off 1 bold 5 blinking 7 reverse 8 hidden B=foreground C=background Foreground colors Background colors 30 black 34 blue 40 black 44 blue 31 red 35 magenta 41 red 45 magenta 32 green 36 cyan 42 green 46 cyan 33 yellow 37 white 43 yellow 47 white Before the [A;B;Cm you need an escape prefix. You can type it in each time you need it or you can put it in a file and paste it when needed. I only know how to make the escape prefix using vi. It is 4 characters. They are ^v ^_ ^v ^[ (the ^ means the control key). You can make the escape file using vi and then you can use your favorite editor instead of vi when posting or whatever. I use Pico and I can just paste the escape prefix wherever needed by using "^r". Here's an example of a flashing white "hello" on a red background: ^v^_^v^[[5;37;41mhello^v^_^v^[[0m. On the right side of the sequence the "[0m" resets the colors so the rest of the screen doesn't blink white on red. All ansi sequences ( like [1;37;41m or [0m ) need to be preceded by the escape prefix. When posting an article and you are prompted for a subject you can type just anything. When you are then put in edit mode you go to the subject line and erase whatever you have just typed in and replace it with your ansi text. If there is no way that you can get this prefix made with vi and put in a file you can FTP it ( it's 4 bytes ) from me. See my sig below. _____ ___ ________ ______ ___ \ \ | /\ \ ___ \ /\/\ \ \ __>********************************* \ \/ | | | \ \ \ \/ / | \ / /<_ Chris LaFave clafave@teleport.com \ __| | | > \ \ \__ / < | \/ /___> ftp.teleport.com /users/clafave/ \/ \ \__| \| _// | / \___ http://www.teleport.com/~clafave \ / \ \ | / |\ /\ \Beaverton Oregon USA GO BLAZERS! \____/|_____/__|\_/__| \_/|__| \/ \____/*********************************  From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 17:17:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20584; Wed, 28 Feb 96 17:17:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16601; Wed, 28 Feb 96 17:09:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from homer26.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16595; Wed, 28 Feb 96 17:09:02 -0800 Received: by homer26.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA120354; Wed, 28 Feb 96 17:09:00 -0800 X-Sender: chobson@homer26.u.washington.edu Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 17:09:00 -0800 (PST) From: "C. Hobson" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 633 unsubscribe pine-info """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Chuck Hobson "Here we are not afraid to try things" chobson@u.washington.edu William Halstead """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 21:08:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25695; Wed, 28 Feb 96 21:08:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28058; Wed, 28 Feb 96 21:01:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28052; Wed, 28 Feb 96 21:01:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ts0PB-00038FC; Wed, 28 Feb 96 20:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hilander@3rdplanet.com Subject: Inbox READONLY -- I read the FAQs but they didn't help Date: 28 Feb 1996 21:00:33 GMT Message-Id: <4h2fph$uqc@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 634 When I try to open pine my INBOX is READONLY so I can't delete messages. I had accidentally opened to sessions of pine at the same time. The FAQ talks about that... but it doesn't say how to _fix_ the problem... just says to reopen with full access... whatever that means. I got my ISP to kill all my processes and that didn't help... so if you have any idea how to solve it... I would appreciate it. hilander@3rdplanet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 21:57:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26782; Wed, 28 Feb 96 21:57:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28765; Wed, 28 Feb 96 21:50:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.eskimo.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28759; Wed, 28 Feb 96 21:50:17 -0800 Received: from eskimo.com (frankp@eskimo.com [204.122.16.13]) by mail.eskimo.com (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA07770 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 21:49:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 21:49:57 -0800 (PST) From: Frank Panion To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: HELP PLEASE Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 635 Would anyone know how you can upload ascii or a prepared letter you wrote off line into your mail so you dont have to write it on line Thanks *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* *:* ROADRUNNER COURIER & PROCESS SERVERS *:* *:* frankp@eskimo.com /--|--\ *:* *:* 8813 Commercial St SW #1 /\ | /\ *:* *:* Tacoma wa 98498 :__: | :__: *:* *:* EFFICIANT SERVICE & REASONABLE | *:* *:* RATES (_____) *:* *:* OWNER:Frank Panion *:* *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 21:58:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26825; Wed, 28 Feb 96 21:58:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21023; Wed, 28 Feb 96 21:50:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21017; Wed, 28 Feb 96 21:50:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ts1Bl-00038FC; Wed, 28 Feb 96 21:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: agurcsik@faa.gov Subject: Pico help problem - If I can't fix, our group won't be allowed to use it Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:25:21 -0800 Message-Id: <31333071.204C@faa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 636 I have a problem with pico (pine is not installed) help. I press the key sequence for help (CTRL-G) and the only characters that are displayed are the ones in the last column and the CTRL key commands at the bottom of the page to move forward or exit. The terminal is set to vt100. Both of our terminals do the same thing. We're running AIX 3.2.5 on an IBM PowerServer 930, ksh. We re-installed the system and a new version of pico, but it still didn't work. Does pico have to be in a special directory? It's on the path. Is there an initialization file of some kind? Thanks. Anthony Gurcsik mailto:agurcsik@faa.gov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 28 22:00:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26885; Wed, 28 Feb 96 22:00:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28773; Wed, 28 Feb 96 21:50:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28767; Wed, 28 Feb 96 21:50:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ts1Bl-00038VC; Wed, 28 Feb 96 21:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Macman Subject: Reacting to subject line Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 16:24:15 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 637 Hi! I would like to now if it's possible to put Pine sending a certain msg (with a file attached) if someone has sent me a msg w/ subj. line for example GET ME KALI . What I mean is that if someone sends me a message with a certain subject line, Pine would answer with a certain message. Is it possible? << Macman - A Macintosh User And A PC Gamer >> Internet: macman@sms.ee Fidonet: 2:490/14.11 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 01:42:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01827; Thu, 29 Feb 96 01:42:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01701; Thu, 29 Feb 96 01:34:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01691; Thu, 29 Feb 96 01:34:19 -0800 Received: (from vs@localhost) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.4/8.7.1) id KAA17000; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 10:32:05 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 10:32:05 +0100 (MET) From: Vladimir Solnicky =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=28Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD=29?= To: David Mullaney Cc: The Pine Discussion List Subject: Re: I can't use the arrows key In-Reply-To: <4h2kgb$gp1@fcnews.fc.hp.com> Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Organizace: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_(=DATIA)_AV_=C8R?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 638 On 28 Feb 1996, David Mullaney wrote: > : I am using Pine on HPUX8.05, but my problem is that I can't use the = arrows > : key to move in any menu. Is there something wrong in the configurati= on? >=20 > I've never been able to use the arrows in PINE unless I was calling in vi= a > a PC to my workstation. (BTW, I'm using HP-UX 9.07 and 10.10). Use xterm instead of hpterm. Then the arrows will work. i am using HP-UX 9.05 and last year I used 8.0x--it works in both.=20 | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 6884677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz ftp.utia.cas.cz http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-en.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 01:45:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01912; Thu, 29 Feb 96 01:45:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01798; Thu, 29 Feb 96 01:41:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01792; Thu, 29 Feb 96 01:41:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ts4q8-00038XC; Thu, 29 Feb 96 01:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: undocumented feature? Date: 27 Feb 96 16:32:09 GMT Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 639 cravener@Hawaii.Edu (Patty Cravener) writes: >A serendipitous event led me to discover that it is possible to include >highlighted text in Pico-edited pine mail messages. >FYI, the WordPerfect characters 5,170 (deck of cards `heart') and 5,7 >(classic smiley face), when saved as ascii text and edited in pico, show >on the screen as ^C and ^A, and yield black on white or red on white >text, respectively. This is a very nice effect, against the standard >white-on-black pine mailer message. >Problem is, I can't find any documentation that allows me to create the >effects directly within the Pico editor. This is not a particularly good idea. ^A and ^C are control characters and at best will not be displayed or have the effect you want on the receiving terminal. At worst they may provoke odd behavior somewhere in the transport process. >Can anyone direct me to reading material, preferably in a file somewhere? >Thanks for your attention to this query... >pc >-- >____________________________________________________________________ > Patricia Cravener cravener@hawaii.edu -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 01:46:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01951; Thu, 29 Feb 96 01:46:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24047; Thu, 29 Feb 96 01:41:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24041; Thu, 29 Feb 96 01:41:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ts4pr-00038WC; Thu, 29 Feb 96 01:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: How to create an alias for yourself? Date: 27 Feb 1996 15:11:23 GMT Message-Id: <4gv6ur$a3e@fu-berlin.de> References: <4glmq5$t94@news.tamu.edu> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 640 sfj3212@tam2000.tamu.edu (Sarah Fox Jahn) writes: >I'd like to set up an alias for myself, so people can email sarah_jahn rather >than sfj3212. The info about an alias address needs to be with the person who sends you mail. So you either tell everybody and force them to create an alias for you (good luck!) or you tell them about the other address and make sure that it will be recognized as a mail alias on your system. The mail administrator can probably create such an alias for you - talk to him! Summary: You cannot install mail aliases yourself (unless you're the sysop). Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 02:07:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02390; Thu, 29 Feb 96 02:07:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24304; Thu, 29 Feb 96 02:01:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24292; Thu, 29 Feb 96 02:01:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ts59q-00038WC; Thu, 29 Feb 96 02:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lheilig@okstate.edu Subject: Re: Downloading Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 10:42:51 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 641 using a pc(msdos) and modem, I have installed a utility to intercept the lpt1 output and redirect to a file. Now, I do not have to export and then download to pc. Found the utility in wsuarchive- PRINDIR. ZIP (I think). On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, Emmanuel Koku wrote: > > Hi, first use the export command (E) to save the file in your home > directory, then download it using configuraitons of your system, be it > UNIX or VM. Cheers, Emmanuel. > > On Thu, 15 Feb 1996, 7{lO'/Vd5i95SoI}l wrote: > > > I need help downloading off of newsgroups. If anybody can help it would > > be greatly appreciated. Thanks > > ggeiger@wsunix.wsu.edu > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 03:41:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04320; Thu, 29 Feb 96 03:41:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25388; Thu, 29 Feb 96 03:31:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25382; Thu, 29 Feb 96 03:31:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ts6ZV-00038XC; Thu, 29 Feb 96 03:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michel Jouvin Subject: Re: mime mail from pegasus mailer Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 14:58:25 +0100 Message-Id: <31345F81.41C6@lal.in2p3.fr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 642 I had a similar pb. In fact, saving the attachment in the View Attachement window converted the attachement a readable file for the application that created it. Michel ************************************************************** * Michel Jouvin Email : jouvin@lal.in2p3.fr * * LAL / CNRS * * Bat. 200 Tel : +33 1 64468932 * * 91405 Orsay Cedex Fax : +33 1 69079404 * * FRANCE * ************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 03:51:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04525; Thu, 29 Feb 96 03:51:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03003; Thu, 29 Feb 96 03:31:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02997; Thu, 29 Feb 96 03:31:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ts6ZV-00038WC; Thu, 29 Feb 96 03:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dennisk@primenet.com (Dennis K) Subject: Re: Copy / Paste from a MAC to PINE or PICO Date: 28 Feb 1996 23:54:02 -0700 Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 643 Carlos PINTO-PEREIRA did write: > I tried several times copy/paste several lines (8-9 ?), but files with > 15-20 lines go looping. But i think that the explanation in on th EOF. > So NEVERV COPY THE LAST PARAGRAPH. > Try > CArlos Thanks Carlos. Dennis Kessler http://www.primenet.com/~dennisk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 03:54:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04589; Thu, 29 Feb 96 03:54:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03114; Thu, 29 Feb 96 03:41:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03108; Thu, 29 Feb 96 03:41:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ts6gT-00038WC; Thu, 29 Feb 96 03:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rdadams@ubmail.ubalt.edu (Dick Adams) Subject: Re: Pico Date: 21 Feb 96 21:25:25 -0500 Message-Id: <1996Feb21.212525.1@ubmail.ubalt.edu> References: <312BA4F0.1780@voyager.caro.net> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 644 "Morgan A. Miskell" writes: > Hi, I have a Sun Sparc 5 running Solaris 2.3, I pulled > down the source to pico and pine. I don't seem to have > all the libraries required and don't really have the > time to pull them down to do a compile. Does anyone > know/have a compiled version they can point me to? > (I have pine ok, still need pico) Thx I don't have an answer to your question, but I would like to know where and how you got the source code for pico. I would like to see it so I can modify it to handle justification the way I want it handled. Dick From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 04:06:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05700; Thu, 29 Feb 96 04:06:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03240; Thu, 29 Feb 96 03:56:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from scls1.suffolk.lib.ny.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03234; Thu, 29 Feb 96 03:56:19 -0800 Received: (from hbookout@localhost) by scls1.suffolk.lib.ny.us (8.6.12/8.6.6) id GAA09121; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 06:59:34 -0500 Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 06:59:33 -0500 (EST) From: Bookout To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Sending to Personal Folder Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 645 I am a beginner user and am having trouble when sending and receiving files to and from my personal folder. Receiving them has vastly improved since I started using ZTerm communications program and ZModem (instead of XModem) protocol. I still cannot send files from my home computer to my Personal File in Pine. I am using Practical Peripherals MC144MT II modem with Macintosh Performa 575.I think my trouble is with "throughput." (?) The cable from my modem to computer is a "serial" cable. Would a "hardware handshaking" cable and the Pine Option "hardware handshake" improve my efforts? Thanks Henry hbookout@suffolk.lib.ny.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 06:40:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09184; Thu, 29 Feb 96 06:40:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05349; Thu, 29 Feb 96 06:21:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05343; Thu, 29 Feb 96 06:21:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ts9AQ-00038YC; Thu, 29 Feb 96 06:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Sheri G." Subject: FAQ??? Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 06:00:20 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 646 Sorry to bother everyone... but how can I get the FAQ? Sheri Graber (roseleaf@prairie.lakes.com) Mankato, Minnesota USA * http://prairie.lakes.com/~roseleaf <-- A WWW Fibromyalgia Resource * ********************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 06:41:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09251; Thu, 29 Feb 96 06:41:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05462; Thu, 29 Feb 96 06:31:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs.stritch.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05456; Thu, 29 Feb 96 06:31:40 -0800 Received: by acs.stritch.edu; id AA26952; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 08:32:17 -0600 Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 08:32:17 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Esten To: Frank Panion Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HELP PLEASE In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 647 On Wed, 28 Feb 1996, Frank Panion wrote: > Would anyone know how you can upload ascii or a prepared letter you wrote > off line into your mail so you dont have to write it on line > Thanks > ..couple options actually....you can upload it into your home directory on your mail server and then use ^R in pine to "read it in" to you message. A shortcut that works well for fairly short items if you are using a Mac or Windows is to copy it to the clipboard then switch over to your dial in session and just use the paste to bring it into mail. Works fine for items that are only a page or two. Jim Jim Esten (temporarily between .sigs) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 06:42:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09290; Thu, 29 Feb 96 06:42:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27761; Thu, 29 Feb 96 06:21:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27755; Thu, 29 Feb 96 06:21:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ts9AQ-00038XC; Thu, 29 Feb 96 06:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: c415khd@nll.se (Kenneth Hedlund) Subject: Sendmail, aliases and Pine 3.91 Date: 29 Feb 1996 12:59:44 GMT Message-Id: <4h4800$t13@flff5.nll.se> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 648 We're running Pine 3,91 on HP-UX 10.01 and are having problems with sendmail aliases/rev-aliases and Pine. The system is a HP 700/J210 and HP-UX 10.01. Sendmail is configured to remap usernames into full Names (outgoing) and the reverse for incoming mail. It's also set to hide its' hostname. ie, mail from the user c415khd (at host flff10.nll.se) should be rewritten as coming from Kenneth.Hedlund@nll.se. This works with mailx and Elm but Pine makes the 'From:' header look like: From: Kenneth Hedlund instead of (Elm and mailx sample): From: Kenneth Hedlund I've tried changing various options in Pine but no go. Is this a bug or a feature or what ? -Ken -- ============================================================================ Kenneth Hedlund Email: Kenneth.Hedlund@nll.se Norrbottens Läns Landsting Phone: +46 920 78102 S-971 89 LULEÅ, SWEDEN Fax: +46 920 78112 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 06:47:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09405; Thu, 29 Feb 96 06:47:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05544; Thu, 29 Feb 96 06:36:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs.stritch.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05538; Thu, 29 Feb 96 06:36:55 -0800 Received: by acs.stritch.edu; id AA27028; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 08:37:30 -0600 Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 08:37:30 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Esten To: Bookout Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Sending to Personal Folder In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 649 On Thu, 29 Feb 1996, Bookout wrote: > I am a beginner user and am having trouble when sending and receiving > files to and from my personal folder. Receiving them has vastly improved > since I started using ZTerm communications program and ZModem (instead of > XModem) protocol. > > I still cannot send files from my home computer to my Personal File in Pine. ...I don't recall there being any sort of uploading option in pine itself. If you are trying to transfer text from your Mac into a mail message, you can get away with than either by using the Mac clipboard and pasting or doing an ASCII upload in stead of Zmodem. It sounds like you have already achieved success, but now are trying to do something that is not an option! Jim Jim Esten (temporarily between .sigs) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 07:12:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09893; Thu, 29 Feb 96 07:12:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28143; Thu, 29 Feb 96 06:54:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lbbc.lb.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28137; Thu, 29 Feb 96 06:54:20 -0800 Received: by lbbc.lb.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA204416; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 08:51:32 -0600 Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 08:51:31 -0600 (CST) From: Kim Scarborough To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Remote News Server Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 650 I sent a message a while ago about getting newsgroups from a remote news server I have an account on while still running Pine on this server. I only got one response, which didn't solve the problem (thanks anyhow), so I assume that NOBODY here knows the answer. Can anyone tell me somewhere else to check with Pine questions? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "In a democracy, people get the kind of government they deserve." -Adlai Stevenson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 07:45:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10823; Thu, 29 Feb 96 07:45:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28549; Thu, 29 Feb 96 07:21:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28543; Thu, 29 Feb 96 07:21:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tsA7t-00038FC; Thu, 29 Feb 96 07:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cs51sk@surrey.ac.uk (Miss Sally J Kentfield) Subject: Pine on a celarus(sp.?) machine Date: 28 Feb 1996 13:50:32 GMT Message-Id: <4h1mj8$d77@info-server.surrey.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 651 I had Pine on my area at Uni, and loved it, no problems at all, and I found it excellent for setting up address lists. However, the 'nice' computer man didn't like me having it, so now its gone and i'm stuck with elm *bleurgh* again. They say they will put Pine on the whole system, if they can find another celarus (that's what the name sounded like, anyways) machine that has found a configuration for Pine that works. Please post if you know of ANYONE RUNNING PINE ON A CELARUS MACHINE. Thanks Sally. -- --------------------------------------------------------------- c/o Morbid's Death and Devastation Domain Hope you're all cool and froody ---------------------------; cs51sk@ee.surrey.ac.uk | morbid@chantry.demon.co.uk |___________; ----;--<(@ www.bath.ac.uk/~en5jmt/sally/biker.htm | www.surrey.ac.uk/~cs51sk/index.html | --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 08:20:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12007; Thu, 29 Feb 96 08:20:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07102; Thu, 29 Feb 96 08:06:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gtedstpa.gtenet.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07096; Thu, 29 Feb 96 08:06:00 -0800 Received: by gtedstpa.gtenet.com id AA28486 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 29 Feb 1996 11:05:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199602291605.AA28486@gtedstpa.gtenet.com> Received: by gtedstpa.gtenet.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Thu, 29 Feb 1996 11:05:46 -0500 From: Frank W. Vans Evers(NMS) Subject: question To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Thu, 29 Feb 96 11:06:49 EST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 652 I receive the e-mail postings of the board, when I reply to one of them what happens to that reply? /s/ Frank -- +------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ Feedback allows us to improve and learn, please help us provide the best service in town. Help us serve you better, we appreciate your Feedback. TIA Frank W. Vans Evers, IT-CSS-GTEData Services, Temple Terrace, FL, Work-813-978-2370 email = f.vansevers@gtenet.com +------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 08:33:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12807; Thu, 29 Feb 96 08:33:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07340; Thu, 29 Feb 96 08:16:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pgh.nauticom.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07332; Thu, 29 Feb 96 08:15:58 -0800 Received: from viper.nauticom.net (viper_fddi.nauticom.net [199.234.150.1]) by pgh.nauticom.net (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA10818; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 11:10:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 11:10:18 -0500 (EST) From: Jack Hunter To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Quoted text Question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 653 On Thu, 29 Feb 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > This is not configurable in Pine 3.91's options. > > No doubt you could obtain the source code, modify the appropriate part, > and recompile it .... if it REALLY is that important to you! ;-) > > Cheers, > No Mike it really isn't, but if it was configurable I would have changed it.:) Thanks for coming back so quick. Jack +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Jack/Pittsburgh \Home Page= http://www.nauticom.net/www/jhh jhh@pgh.nauticom.net \ Stop in and say hello! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 09:03:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14315; Thu, 29 Feb 96 09:03:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00864; Thu, 29 Feb 96 08:52:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00853; Thu, 29 Feb 96 08:52:03 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:43:26 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id OAA04184; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:43:55 GMT Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:43:54 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Jack Hunter Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Quoted text Question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 654 This is not configurable in Pine 3.91's options. No doubt you could obtain the source code, modify the appropriate part, and recompile it .... if it REALLY is that important to you! ;-) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 28 Feb 1996, Jack Hunter wrote: > Is there anyway to change the prefixed > in front of quoted text to : > I have used this for quite awhile in YARN and would like to use it in Pine. > Thank you for any help. > > -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > Jack/Pittsburgh \Home Page= http://www.nauticom.net/www/jhh > jhh@pgh.nauticom.net \ Stop in and say hello! > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 09:08:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14913; Thu, 29 Feb 96 09:08:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00880; Thu, 29 Feb 96 08:52:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00859; Thu, 29 Feb 96 08:52:07 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:56:32 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id OAA13388; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:57:20 GMT Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:57:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Frank Panion Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HELP PLEASE In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 655 Assuming the message text is stored in a file on the same computer as you are running Pine on... * Start composing your message. * Place the cursor in the Message Text area. * Type Ctrl/R * Enter the name of the file containing the text and press Return. However, if your file is on your micro's hard disk, but you are running Pine on a UNIX system then you must first transfer (upload) the text file from your micro's disk to the UNIX system's disks. How you do this depends very much on the type of micro you are using, the connection you have, and the software available. Contact your local help desk for assistance. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 28 Feb 1996, Frank Panion wrote: > Would anyone know how you can upload ascii or a prepared letter you wrote > off line into your mail so you dont have to write it on line > Thanks > > > *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* > *:* ROADRUNNER COURIER & PROCESS SERVERS *:* > *:* frankp@eskimo.com /--|--\ *:* > *:* 8813 Commercial St SW #1 /\ | /\ *:* > *:* Tacoma wa 98498 :__: | :__: *:* > *:* EFFICIANT SERVICE & REASONABLE | *:* > *:* RATES (_____) *:* > *:* OWNER:Frank Panion *:* > *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 09:09:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14997; Thu, 29 Feb 96 09:09:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00843; Thu, 29 Feb 96 08:51:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00819; Thu, 29 Feb 96 08:50:29 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:31:45 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id OAA25266; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:32:22 GMT Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:32:21 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Nevin Kapur Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Recalling expunged postings.. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 656 Once messages which have been marked for deletion have been Expnged (X) or implicitly expunged (by exiting Pine and allowing it to expunge your folder) they have been permanently removed from the file containing the mail folder. Your only hope is to go and be VERY nice to the person(s) who manage your computers and ask them if it is possible to get the file(s) in question back from the security dumps. (This assumes that they periodically make such dumps, copying the computer's disks to tape, etc.) What happens next depends on their policy: here we would be very reluctant to do so unles the message(s) were EXTREMELY important and the information could not be re-requested; it takes some hours to restore files from our dumps. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 29 Feb 1996, Nevin Kapur wrote: > > Is there any way in Pine of recalling postings that I have expelled in > using "x" ? > > Nevin. > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > Nevin Kapur * Electrical Engineering * Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay > INTERNET http://ee.iitb.ernet.in/~nevin, nevin@ee.iitb.ernet.in > MAIL C20 Garib Soc.,5th NS Rd.,JVPD Scheme,Bombay,400049.India > PHONE 628 1091, 624 0272 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 09:10:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15036; Thu, 29 Feb 96 09:10:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00850; Thu, 29 Feb 96 08:52:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00844; Thu, 29 Feb 96 08:51:45 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:40:31 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id OAA02059; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:41:08 GMT Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:41:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Steve Holstead Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: abort on .pine-interrupted-mail In-Reply-To: <4h1u2p$a88@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 657 No, you are mistaken.... The C-Client is a set of routines that perform file handling for a number of different mailbox formats. The imapd makes use of them (to obtain the mail it has to serve up over IMAP), but Pine too can use them (when accessing mail files directly or, indeed, to open IMAP or NNTP connections). For convenience the C-Client source is included in the imapd distribution as they are so strongly related (and part, no doubt, of the Pine Team's push for people to use IMAP rather than direct file access :-). So there IS benefit in you pulling the latest imapd source kit and unpacking it: the revised C-Client source included will be used as you recompile Pine. Simply ftp the kit and unpack it. I then merely renamed the old "imap" directory "imap.old" and renamed the new directory "imap". Now just rebuild your Pine (I did a "build clean" first to make sure _everything_ got rebuilt using the new code.) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 28 Feb 1996, Steve Holstead wrote: > Mike Brudenell (pmb1@mailer.york.ac.uk) wrote: > : This problem has been known about for some months. I *think* that it is > : fixed in the latest release of the c-client/imapd kit, available as > : imapd-3.6BETA from ftp.cac.washington.edu. > > Please forgive me but I don't know the source as good as I probably > should. I am not using IMAP to get my mail. I am using an NFS mount. I > was under the impression that c-client.a was only going to be used if I > used IMAP to get my mail.... > > > -- > ______________________________________________________________________________ > > Steve Holstead University of Alberta > Steve.Holstead@ualberta.ca Computer and Network Services > Tel.: (403) 492-4854 System Software Group > Fax.: (403) 492-1729 #154 General Services Building > Edmonton, Alberta T6G-2H1 > C A N A D A > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 09:44:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16574; Thu, 29 Feb 96 09:44:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09417; Thu, 29 Feb 96 09:21:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09411; Thu, 29 Feb 96 09:21:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tsBye-00038FC; Thu, 29 Feb 96 09:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) Subject: Re: I can't use the arrows key Date: 29 Feb 1996 16:09:30 GMT Message-Id: <4h4j3q$4hk@fcnews.fc.hp.com> References: <4h2kgb$gp1@fcnews.fc.hp.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 658 Vladimir Solnicky (vs@utia.cas.cz) wrote: : On 28 Feb 1996, David Mullaney wrote: : > a PC to my workstation. (BTW, I'm using HP-UX 9.07 and 10.10). : Use xterm instead of hpterm. Then the arrows will work. i am using HP-UX : 9.05 and last year I used 8.0x--it works in both.=20 That works great! It also resolves the problem of bad highlighting in the Index. Thanks, Vladimir! -- + DAVID MULLANEY Mailstop #99, Loctn. 1UN5 (970) 229-7629 + + > Net: mullaney@fc.hp.com http://hpfcdn/ -*- fax 2838 + + > Software Engineer -- Ignition/UDL/OSSD /\/\/\ + + > Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, Colorado _-/\^^/ \ + From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 09:57:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17129; Thu, 29 Feb 96 09:57:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02397; Thu, 29 Feb 96 09:43:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02385; Thu, 29 Feb 96 09:43:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tsCMI-00038YC; Thu, 29 Feb 96 09:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@guava.epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Pine info you requested (last changed Sep 12 15:05) (fwd) Date: 29 Feb 1996 04:47:31 GMT Message-Id: <4h3b53$fsu@guava.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 659 SHADKEN (Shadken@cris.com) wrote: : As instructed in the pine robot's reply, I'm hoping that some ONE : or THING can respond to this inquiry. Thanks in advance. : ---------- Forwarded message ---------- : Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 15:43:39 -0500 (EST) : From: SHADKEN : To: UW Email Robot : Subject: Re: Pine info you requested (last changed Sep 12 15:05) : Thanks for sending me the "Secrets of Pine 3.9" info. I have two : problems that perhaps you can help me with: : When I enter "Y" to print, the message comes up, "attach to ANSI?," to : which I say "y" or hit return. So far, instead of a printout, all I get : is three or so characters at the upper left of my screen. : A second problem is in editing a message I'm writing. Grudgingly and : wastefully, so far I've had to "cancel" and start again. : Can you tell me (1) how do I print to my local, stand-alone printer, and : (2) how do I edit a message? : Thanks in advance. OK, Shad ... now, take a deep breath and then press ? for pine help. Relax, you're not gonna get any help by writing to a robot, but pine has context sensitive help but you may wish to look at the bottom of your screen and see what your options are ... Only a thought ... G'Day From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 11:20:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21328; Thu, 29 Feb 96 11:20:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04375; Thu, 29 Feb 96 11:00:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jumbo.ntplx.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04369; Thu, 29 Feb 96 11:00:09 -0800 Received: by ntplx.net (4.1/NETPLEX-2.3.0) id AA26498; Thu, 29 Feb 96 14:00:06 EST Received: by quoin1.quoininc.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tsAYd-000FEhC; Thu, 29 Feb 96 10:46 EST Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 10:46:19 -0500 (EST) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: Kim Scarborough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Remote News Server In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 660 On Thu, 29 Feb 1996, Kim Scarborough wrote: > I sent a message a while ago about getting newsgroups from a remote news > server I have an account on while still running Pine on this server. I In the configure menu, fill in the "nntp-server" entry with the name of your news server. __ ____ __ __ ____/\_\ ____ Quoin Inc / __ \/\ \/\ \ / __ \/\ \ / _ \ 124 Mount Auburn Street /\ \_\ \ \ \_\ \/\ \_\ \ \ \/\ \/\ \ Cambridge, MA 02138-5700 \ \___ \ \____/\ \____/\ \_\ \_\ \_\ USA \/___/\ \/___/ \/___/ \/_/\/_/\/_/ \ \_\ voice: +1.617.576.5885 \/_/ OBJECT CONSULTANTS fax: +1.617.576.5876 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 11:29:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21799; Thu, 29 Feb 96 11:29:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04885; Thu, 29 Feb 96 11:14:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lbbc.lb.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04875; Thu, 29 Feb 96 11:14:00 -0800 Received: by lbbc.lb.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA161610; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 13:11:04 -0600 Message-Id: <9602291911.AA161610@lbbc.lb.com> Received: from smtpgate id: 3135FA33.F96 (WordPerfect SMTP Gateway V3.1a 04/27/92) Received: from lbbc (WP Connection) From: (Kim Scarborough) Cc: To: Subject: Re: Remote News Server (SMTP Id#: 10740) - Reply Date: Thu Feb 29 13:10:43 1996 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 661 >> I sent a message a while ago about getting newsgroups from a remote >> news server I have an account on while still running Pine on this >> server. > >In the configure menu, fill in the "nntp-server" entry with the >name of your news server. I did that, but when I try to get to news, it tells me "502 You have no permission to talk. Goodbye." I don't have the same login here as I do there, could that be part of the problem? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 11:34:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22002; Thu, 29 Feb 96 11:34:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12757; Thu, 29 Feb 96 11:22:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12751; Thu, 29 Feb 96 11:22:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tsDur-00038FC; Thu, 29 Feb 96 11:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: dumb startup questions In-Reply-To: cain@geomag.gly.fsu.edu's message of 27 Feb 1996 18: 45:05 GMT Message-Id: References: <4gvjfh$ekv@news.fsu.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 15:26:49 GMT Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 662 In article <4gvjfh$ekv@news.fsu.edu> cain@geomag.gly.fsu.edu (Joseph Cain) writes: 2. Is there an easy way to use emacs in place of Pico? You'll want to configure the Pine editor feature. Probably the full pathname for emacs is best. See the enable-alternate-editor-implicitly feature as well. 3. I want to use folders already established in my ~/mail directory, but when I use ~/mail it does not like that, and wants some kind of [ brackets. I put a [ in front of the path, and it seems to work ok, but still complains. Putting the whole path in [] brackets does not seem to work at all. Is not your first folder-collections entry mail/[] ? If so, then you ought to be able to access the folders by filename, with no path components, punctuation, etc. You might want to check out the incoming-folders feature too, if you use a mail presorter like procmail. Regards, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4824 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 12:20:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24439; Thu, 29 Feb 96 12:20:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14169; Thu, 29 Feb 96 12:09:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14115; Thu, 29 Feb 96 12:08:55 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 29 Feb 1996 20:02:38 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id OAA14258; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:58:37 GMT Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:58:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Macman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reacting to subject line In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 663 No, it isn't possible. You will need to use something like "procmail" (if it is installed on your computer!) to scan the message as it arrives and decide what actions to take. Ask your local help desk if procmail (or something similar) is available, and how to use it. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 27 Feb 1996, Macman wrote: > Hi! > > I would like to now if it's possible to put Pine sending a certain msg > (with a file attached) if someone has sent me a msg w/ subj. line for > example GET ME KALI . What I mean is that if someone sends me a message > with a certain subject line, Pine would answer with a certain message. > Is it possible? > > << Macman - A Macintosh User And A PC Gamer >> > Internet: macman@sms.ee Fidonet: 2:490/14.11 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 12:53:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25557; Thu, 29 Feb 96 12:53:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07457; Thu, 29 Feb 96 12:43:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07451; Thu, 29 Feb 96 12:43:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tsF9J-00038XC; Thu, 29 Feb 96 12:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pegboy@gti.net ( ) Subject: Re: HELP PLEASE Date: 29 Feb 1996 14:09:12 GMT Message-Id: <4h4c28$ikq@gti.gti.net> References: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 664 First you must upload it to yer online terminal, most likely, you'll use the 'rz' command, then when in Pine, in the _body_ of your letter-to-be, hit ^R (ctrl-R), enter in the file name and if all went well, it should be there... Good luck! 28 Feb 1996 21:58:25 -0800 wrote: : Would anyone know how you can upload ascii or a prepared letter you wrote : off line into your mail so you dont have to write it on line : Thanks : : *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* : *:* ROADRUNNER COURIER & PROCESS SERVERS *:* : *:* frankp@eskimo.com /--|--\ *:* : *:* 8813 Commercial St SW #1 /\ | /\ *:* : *:* Tacoma wa 98498 :__: | :__: *:* : *:* EFFICIANT SERVICE & REASONABLE | *:* : *:* RATES (_____) *:* : *:* OWNER:Frank Panion *:* : *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 13:27:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27373; Thu, 29 Feb 96 13:27:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08355; Thu, 29 Feb 96 13:17:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from spider.cs.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08349; Thu, 29 Feb 96 13:17:27 -0800 Received: (certain@localhost) by spider.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) id NAA23130; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 13:17:22 -0800 Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 13:17:21 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Certain To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Changing .signature with every mail Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 665 The way I do it is the following: You have to use an alternate editor. I like emacs, but you can use whatever you want. So I set up a script in my bin directory which contains the following (between the CUT lines): ----- START CUT ----- #!/bin/csh -f /bin/cp $HOME/.sig $HOME/.signature fortune >> $HOME/.signature /usr/local/bin/emacs -nw $* ----- END CUT ----- And set my alternate editor to invoke that script. In place of "/usr/local/bin/emacs" put the path to your favorite editor. In place of the fortune command, place whatever command you want to generate the text which is changing. In a file called .sig in your home directory, put the part of the signature file which you want to remain the same. You're done. __________________Andrew_Certain_(certain@cs.washington.edu)___________________ WHAT WOMEN WHAT: To be loved, to be listened to, to be desired, to be respected, to be needed, to be trusted, and sometimes, just to be held. WHAT MEN WANT: Tickets to the World Series. -- Dave Barry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 18:05:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09913; Thu, 29 Feb 96 18:05:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23760; Thu, 29 Feb 96 17:56:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jumbo.ntplx.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23754; Thu, 29 Feb 96 17:56:53 -0800 Received: by ntplx.net (4.1/NETPLEX-2.3.0) id AA00574; Thu, 29 Feb 96 20:56:52 EST Received: by quoin1.quoininc.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tsBJQ-000FEhC; Thu, 29 Feb 96 11:34 EST Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 11:34:39 -0500 (EST) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: kjs@lbbc.lb.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Remote News Server (SMTP Id#: 10740) - Reply In-Reply-To: <9602291911.AA161610@lbbc.lb.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 666 On Thu, 29 Feb 1996 kjs@lbbc.lb.com wrote: > >> I sent a message a while ago about getting newsgroups from a remote > >> news server I have an account on while still running Pine on this > >> server. > > > >In the configure menu, fill in the "nntp-server" entry with the > >name of your news server. > > I did that, but when I try to get to news, it tells me "502 You have no > permission to talk. Goodbye." I don't have the same login here as I do > there, could that be part of the problem? This has to do with how the news server is configured. You'll need to touch base with the system administrator. __ ____ __ __ ____/\_\ ____ Quoin Inc / __ \/\ \/\ \ / __ \/\ \ / _ \ 124 Mount Auburn Street /\ \_\ \ \ \_\ \/\ \_\ \ \ \/\ \/\ \ Cambridge, MA 02138-5700 \ \___ \ \____/\ \____/\ \_\ \_\ \_\ USA \/___/\ \/___/ \/___/ \/_/\/_/\/_/ \ \_\ voice: +1.617.576.5885 \/_/ OBJECT CONSULTANTS fax: +1.617.576.5876 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 18:05:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10007; Thu, 29 Feb 96 18:05:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23812; Thu, 29 Feb 96 17:59:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23806; Thu, 29 Feb 96 17:59:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tsK3X-00038FC; Thu, 29 Feb 96 17:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Quoted text Question Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 19:23:33 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 667 On Wed, 28 Feb 1996, Jack Hunter wrote: : Is there anyway to change the prefixed > in front of quoted text to : : I have used this for quite awhile in YARN and would like to use it in Pine. If you are running Pine under some form of Unix and if you have a World Wide Web browser, I have a technique for doing this on my Web page. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 19:28:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11962; Thu, 29 Feb 96 19:28:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17548; Thu, 29 Feb 96 19:23:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17542; Thu, 29 Feb 96 19:23:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tsLMq-00038FC; Thu, 29 Feb 96 19:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ramio@acs.ryerson.ca (Roderick Amio - CSCI/F95) Subject: forwarding mail Date: 29 Feb 1996 16:48:56 GMT Message-Id: <4h4ldo$at4@ns2.ryerson.ca> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 668 I have 2 email addresses. Is there a way for pine to automatically send email from 1 account to the other? Any help would be appreciated. -- || *) | || || / | || /||___ 0/ | /| / ||WWW |\ | / ||\ / W ___| \_ | / W\__ | / \ | | ' WW \ | / \__ | | * W \0____ | ~ ` | | ` \ \_ |Roderick C. Amio || | , . ___\ |e-mail:ramio@acs.ryerson.ca || | / / | ramio@scs.ryerson.ca || | ~ / |homepg:www.scs.ryerson.ca/~ramio|| | ~ ___________|______________________|___________|______________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 21:30:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14519; Thu, 29 Feb 96 21:30:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26801; Thu, 29 Feb 96 21:18:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26795; Thu, 29 Feb 96 21:18:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tsNDR-00038YC; Thu, 29 Feb 96 21:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: William Gray Subject: Re: pine 3.91 on Sun OS4 locks up periodically for 2 minutes at a time Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 15:44:17 -0800 Message-Id: References: <1996Feb14.182458.18328@sq.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1996Feb14.182458.18328@sq.com> Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 669 try looking in your configuration for removed commands. William Gray wgray@puc.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 29 23:14:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16992; Thu, 29 Feb 96 23:14:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20780; Thu, 29 Feb 96 23:09:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20774; Thu, 29 Feb 96 23:09:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tsOwn-00038FC; Thu, 29 Feb 96 23:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jonathan David Makepeace Subject: Multiple FCC's Using Addressbook Date: 28 Feb 1996 21:54:27 GMT Message-Id: <4h2iuj$1bkq@sp115.ocs.lsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 670 One criticism of pine I've come across is that many people like to have outgoing messages to people saved in separate sent-mail folders for each addressee. The problem is that when you address mail to multiple addressees it only gets saved to the first addressee's sent-mail folder. Does anyone know a way around this? Thank you! -Jonathan David Makepeace Lousiana State University, Middleton Library notjdm@unix1.sncc.lsu.edu