From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 00:29:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26422; Thu, 1 Jun 95 00:29:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26074; Thu, 1 Jun 95 00:21:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26068; Thu, 1 Jun 95 00:21:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sH4VW-00038HC; Thu, 1 Jun 95 00:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: PINE, please don't generate headers Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 16:36:41 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3q5kll$5pa@ocean.CAM.ORG> <3qg5v5$n5f@hustle.rahul.net> <3qg9at$1l0@zeus.cuci.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3qg9at$1l0@zeus.cuci.nl> Status: O X-Status: On 31 May 1995, Stephen R. van den Berg wrote: > In article <3qg5v5$n5f@hustle.rahul.net>, Rahul Dhesi wrote: > >What saves the user is that in almost all cases, syntactically-invalid > >message-ids will be accepted by receiving software. > > As far as I know, the only two requirements for message id fields > are that: > 1. They are unique. > 2. To the right of the @-sign, there must be some text that should *look* > like a domain name. Van den Berg is correct and Dhesi is wrong. According to RFC 822, the contents of the Message-ID header is a rule called "msg-id". Buried inside a Message-ID is something called a "domain"; which, in spite of the name, is not necessarily an Internet domain name. Unfortunately, this tends to confuse certain sorcerer's apprentices. Nor is it required to have any embedded periods. A domain consists of a "sub-domain", followed by zero or more period/sub-domain pairs. A sub-domain, in turn, may be a "domain-ref", which is a single atom. The bottom line is that: Message-ID: is syntactically valid according to RFC-822; and those who claim otherwise have mis-read the specification. So, by the way, is: Message-ID: Try and see if your software swallows this! [Hint: Pine does just fine.] The relevant elements of RFC-822 syntax follow: msg-id = "<" addr-spec ">" ; Unique message id addr-spec = local-part "@" domain ; global address local-part = word *("." word) ; uninterpreted ; case-preserved word = atom / quoted-string atom = 1* CTL = ; ( 177, 127.) SPACE = ; ( 40, 32.) specials = "(" / ")" / "<" / ">" / "@" ; Must be in quoted- / "," / ";" / ":" / "\" / <"> ; string, to use / "." / "[" / "]" ; within a word. qtext = , ; => may be folded "\" & CR, and including linear-white-space> quoted-pair = "\" CHAR ; may quote any char quoted-string = <"> *(qtext/quoted-pair) <">; Regular qtext or ; quoted chars. linear-white-space = 1*([CRLF] LWSP-char) ; semantics = SPACE ; CRLF => folding ; case-preserved CRLF = CR LF CR = ; ( 15, 13.) LF = ; ( 12, 10.) LWSP-char = SPACE / HTAB ; semantics = SPACE HTAB = ; ( 11, 9.) domain = sub-domain *("." sub-domain) sub-domain = domain-ref / domain-literal domain-literal = "[" *(dtext / quoted-pair) "]" domain-ref = atom ; symbolic reference dtext = may be folded "]", "\" & CR, & including linear-white-space> -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 00:59:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27177; Thu, 1 Jun 95 00:59:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00309; Thu, 1 Jun 95 00:51:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00303; Thu, 1 Jun 95 00:51:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sH4yt-00038HC; Thu, 1 Jun 95 00:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Azad Subject: Re: Attaching files in Pine? Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 14:56:52 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9505311214.AA15052@lucano.uco.es> Status: O X-Status: Yes, you can see a picture if it is sent to you as attached file. Just use your usual "V" command to view the attached file. If your .pinerc file is properly configured you should be able to see it. You can configure your .pinerc file from the main menu of pine by pressing S for "Setup", and then chosing C to configure the .pinerc file. Now press W for "where is" and find image-viewer. Now press A to add value to that field, I have put xv in that field you can put in the name of any viewer that your system has. Pine is very user friendly. If you want to know more about it just play around with it, use help, look at the command menu that appears on the bottom of the screen, and you would know everything I know about pine. Hope that helped __ __ __ __ /__\ / /__\ | \ / \ /_ / \ |__/ On Wed, 31 May 1995, Antonio Requena Fernandez wrote: > In article <3q8ru1$j8r@news.service.uci.edu> you wrote: > : When you are in the compose message mode, there is a field in the header above > : Message Text by the name of Attchmnt. That field is for attaching files. In that > : field put the filename with the full pathname and that should do the trick. If > : you do not remember the path, just do Ctrl-t, while in the attachment field and > : it will take you to your directory. > > (Excuse my english, please) > > Question: A user with pine program can receive a message with a > file attached? > > A user with pine program can view i.e. a picture attached a mail? > > Un saludo, > > Antonio Requena Fernandez > > > internet: sc1refea@lucano.uco.es > fidonet: 2:345/702.7 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 01:33:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28399; Thu, 1 Jun 95 01:33:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27075; Thu, 1 Jun 95 01:26:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27069; Thu, 1 Jun 95 01:26:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sH5Y6-00038KC; Thu, 1 Jun 95 01:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dstaley@dorsai.dorsai.org (Dennis Staley) Subject: Will Pine work w/GroupWise Message-Id: Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 14:14:08 GMT Status: O X-Status: Greetings: We are currently operating Pine on four D.G. Unix servers. We will be linking various other Unix servers, and a few Novell networks. They have chosen GroupWise to operate on the new networks, in both ascci and graphics modes. Is it possible to transfer mail from GroupWise to Pine and visa versa with little or no interaction from the user? Response can either be via news group or private Email. Thank You in advance; Dennis Staley --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dennis Staley | dstaley@dorsai.dorsai.org Network Administrator | 72430.2107@compuserve.com Legal Aid Society of New York | pkgman01@aol.com Criminal Defense Division | "Earth is only a beta test site, the | final release will be announced at a | future date." --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 02:45:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29855; Thu, 1 Jun 95 02:45:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01528; Thu, 1 Jun 95 02:36:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01522; Thu, 1 Jun 95 02:36:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sH6f5-00038IC; Thu, 1 Jun 95 02:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: srb@cuci.nl (Stephen R. van den Berg) Subject: Re: PINE, please don't generate headers Date: 1 Jun 1995 02:44:47 +0200 Message-Id: <3qj2hv$1h9@zeus.cuci.nl> References: <3q5kll$5pa@ocean.CAM.ORG> <3qg5v5$n5f@hustle.rahul.net> <3qg9at$1l0@zeus.cuci.nl> <3qieue$lbh@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> Status: O X-Status: John Stanley wrote: >Stephen R. van den Berg wrote: >>>dropped by inn sites, unless the gateway takes steps to correct the >>>syntax in the message-id or generate a new one. Fortunately most such >>>gateways just replace the old message-id with a new valid one. >As the manager of a gateway, I have had to include code to massage >message id's received from mail into ones acceptable to news. Mostly >removing spaces, but also removing illegal characters. Just as a side note, simply looking for `illegal' characters is not enough. You have to do full rfc822 parsing. I.e. <"bla_BLA-"@some.domain.name> is a correct messageid. >>As far as I know, the only two requirements for message id fields >>are that: >>1. They are unique. >>2. To the right of the @-sign, there must be some text that should *look* >> like a domain name. >There is also a limitation on what characters they may contain. Well, yes, if you must, there is indeed a third requirement: 3. To the left of the @-sign, there must be some text that should *look* like the local part of an e-mail address. >>If Pine chooses to append just the hostname and not the FQDN, then >>there is nothing wrong with the generated msgid, as long as (in its >>entirity) it is unique (in time and space). >There are two parts of the message id for a reason. There is the local >side, which a system CAN guarantee is unique locally but cannot >guarantee globally, and the FQDN, which can be guaranteed globally >unique but is not locally unique. Together, the whole is guaranteed >globally unique. >same news code), they can generate the same message id. Unlikely, but >the RFC doesn't say "probably unique". Right, indeed. The RFC says unique in time and space. But the rfc does not say that the part to the left of the @ sign should be locally unique and the part to the right of the @ sign should be globally unique. There is absolutely no reason why one couldn't switch the meaning of the left and the right side (as long as one adheres to the formatting requirements of the left and right sides). You could easily put a string that encodes the FQDN to the left of the @ sign, and put some locally generated unique string to the right of the @ sign. The only thing you have to ensure is that the *entire* message id is unique in time and space. How you accomplish this, is entirely your choice (be it by magic, or whatever encoding scheme you have in mind). E.g. if you put merely the hostname without the fully qualified domain part to the right of the @ sign, then you could, for example, ensure uniqueness by encoding the IP number of the machine in the left part (or some other particularly unique info you have about your machine). So, using the FQDN to the right of the @ sign sure is one way to get to a unique and valid message id, but it is by no means the only way. -- Sincerely, srb@cuci.nl Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless). This signature third word omitted, yet is comprehensible. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 05:20:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04547; Thu, 1 Jun 95 05:20:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00269; Thu, 1 Jun 95 05:11:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00263; Thu, 1 Jun 95 05:11:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sH93g-00038IC; Thu, 1 Jun 95 05:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jander@panix.com (Jim Anderson) Subject: imap Windows client available? Date: 31 May 1995 11:08:24 -0400 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Is there a Pine for Windows yet? If not, are there any MS/Windows clients available? Thanks. -- Jim Anderson Consultant-at-large jander@panix.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 05:47:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05050; Thu, 1 Jun 95 05:47:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03602; Thu, 1 Jun 95 05:37:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03588; Thu, 1 Jun 95 05:37:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sH9U0-00038IC; Thu, 1 Jun 95 05:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Re: Pine/PGP interface Message-Id: Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 09:11:54 -0600 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 30 May 1995, Robert A. Pickering Jr. wrote: | Date: 30 MAY 95 10:28:32 -0500 | From: Robert A. Pickering Jr. | Newgroups: comp.mail.pine | Subject: Re: Pine/PGP interface | | > For a well written script to interface PGP with Pine: | > | > finger slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -f > mkpgp.txt.uu | | Found it in my mail archives. | | -Rob | Due to tyranny in government, distribution of mkpgp has been temporarily interrupted. As soon as I resolve some issues to my satisfaction, it will resume. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp1.1.4, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBL8wyxuBu0383Om6dAQEXTgP/WIlHzC5DjRdaTW3f5j/K8epq/VgtPttQ krdt3nohaYhlNUbtloy9LjVVbKUsSj4IRmz+4yIok1KChhyYrCQUxllTVD5X/hjo xngJfhyv3fx2cymQdpxey977BAFKxxYhkX8ECwTEmtW7UfMxsmDgwDF9rLuen0KS y599JeLSkvM= =qraV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka "The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 07:01:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06657; Thu, 1 Jun 95 07:01:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04335; Thu, 1 Jun 95 06:46:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay3.UU.NET by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04329; Thu, 1 Jun 95 06:46:19 -0700 Received: from uucp1.UU.NET by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP id QQysgd06790; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 09:45:58 -0400 Received: from paradim1.UUCP by uucp1.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 09:45:58 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 17:02:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: Gerry Howser Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Why can't I suppress headers? (second try) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 31 May 1995, Gerry Howser wrote: > OK, here we go again. I am under a deadline to open up a PINE mail > server to some executive types. I have been madated that the only > headers that will appear on ANY email message from anywhere are DATE, TO, > FROM, and SUBJECT. I have been informed that this is the standard for > all email systems (????) and that I must comply. I have a lynix system > that is running PINE 3.89 that shows only the four headers mentioned. Is > this a configuration option that I can turn on and off? Do I need to > hack the living daylights out of PINE? I'm no expert on pine or mail systems but here is my two cents. My understanding is that what you are trying to do is better handled in what is typically referred to as the MTA usually something like sendmail or smail. Pine, which is a MUA, basically just presents the message given to it by sendmail. I've done something similar to what you're looking to do by modifying smail on my Linux system. I suggest you look there first. You may want to get the O'Reilly book on sendmail. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jean Pierre LeJacq Quoin, Inc Suite 200 North local voice: +1.203.295.0874 124 Mount Auburn Street voice: +1.617.576.5885 Cambridge, MA 02138 fax: +1.617.576.5876 U.S.A. email: jplejacq@oops.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 08:27:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09357; Thu, 1 Jun 95 08:27:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03046; Thu, 1 Jun 95 08:18:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03040; Thu, 1 Jun 95 08:18:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHBuD-00038HC; Thu, 1 Jun 95 08:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dave Saville Subject: Re: pine for OS/2? Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 13:06:11 +0100 Message-Id: References: <3q5m7t$2mo@silver.scs.unr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3q5m7t$2mo@silver.scs.unr.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 26 May 1995, Chuck Coronella wrote: > I've been unable to find pine for OS/2. Does it exist? How about pico for > OS/2? These would surely be useful to me, and I'm sure to others. > Contact willer@io.org (Steve Willer) for a beta of OS/2 PINE David C. Saville Tel: +44 1293 556326 Second star on the right and straight on 'til morning. Capt. James T. Kirk (Quoting Peter Pan) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 08:59:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10945; Thu, 1 Jun 95 08:59:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06164; Thu, 1 Jun 95 08:38:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06158; Thu, 1 Jun 95 08:38:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHCEM-00038HC; Thu, 1 Jun 95 08:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: imapd in Pine 3.91 Date: 31 May 1995 23:40:43 GMT Message-Id: <3qiupr$hhj@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <1995May31.184925.9021@sjfc.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <1995May31.184925.9021@sjfc.edu>, System Manager wrote: > I am in the process of installing Pine 3.91. We have had Pine 3.88 >for a while so I am familiar with pine and pico which are created in the >installation process. Also created are imapd and mtest with which I am not >familiar. I know what imap means and does but the documentation that comes >with Pine 3.91 is not very specific as what to do with imapd and mtest >unless I missed it. I suspect that imapd is the daemon that accepts imap >connections but how is it activated? Do I need to install additional >software or is it all included in pine? Some daemons are activated by simply >typing the name but that does not seem to work here. Can anyone enlighten >me about how to use imapd and mtest or point me to the place where I might >find that information? (It is usually considered improper netiquette to post from a system management account such as 'root', 'daemon' or 'postmaster'. You may want to consider creating your own account for the purpose of email and news.) First, the easy one, mtest. Ignore it. It is a little c-client tester and unless you have some very strange problems with mailbox accessing and you want to play around with low-level functions, you'll never need it. imapd is a bit more difficult, but the following steps should do it (as root): 1. Move the imapd binary wherever you would like it (/usr/local/etc is my choice, some prefer /usr/etc). 2. Append the following line to the end of /etc/services: imap 143/tcp 3. Append the following line to the end of /etc/inetd.conf: imap stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/etc/imapd imapd (if you put imapd somewhere other than /usr/local/etc/imapd, put that name there) 4. Create a link to /etc/rimapd: # ln -sf /usr/local/etc/imapd /etc/rimapd 5. Refresh inetd: # kill -1 InetdPID where InetdPID is the process ID of the inetd process. You're done. All this information, by the way, is included in your Pine distribution in the doc/tech-notes.txt file. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 09:17:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12093; Thu, 1 Jun 95 09:17:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04127; Thu, 1 Jun 95 09:03:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04121; Thu, 1 Jun 95 09:03:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHCey-00038EC; Thu, 1 Jun 95 08:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Gardiner Myers Subject: Re: literal empty string {0} in IMAP4 Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 13:09:49 -0400 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: I don't see how the RFC could be made more clear. After receiving a {0}, the server sends a command continuation request response like it does for any literal. Afterwords, the server reads 0 octets of argument data, followed by the rest of the command. -- _.John G. Myers Internet: jgm+@CMU.EDU LoseNet: ...!seismo!ihnp4!wiscvm.wisc.edu!give!up From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 09:29:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12599; Thu, 1 Jun 95 09:29:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04729; Thu, 1 Jun 95 09:23:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calisto.ccc.cranfield.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04719; Thu, 1 Jun 95 09:23:10 -0700 Received: from vulcan.ccc.cranfield.ac.uk by calisto with SMTP (PP); Thu, 1 Jun 1995 17:21:32 +0100 Received: by vulcan.ccc.cranfield.ac.uk (MX V4.1 AXP) id 51; Thu, 01 Jun 1995 17:20:12 GMT Date: Thu, 01 Jun 1995 17:20:12 GMT From: Howard Jeffrey To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, chest-ecsmail@mailbase.ac.uk Message-Id: <009913CC.6AD18BBE.51@vulcan.ccc.cranfield.ac.uk> Subject: IMSP server Status: O X-Status: Dear all, anyone know of an IMSP server for VMS ? :-) Thanks Howard. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Howard Jeffrey. Computer Centre, Email: H.Jeffrey@cranfield.ac.uk Cranfield University, Tel: +44 (0)234 754207 Cranfield, Beds, MK43 OAL __o /\ England _ \<,_ / \/\ (_)/ (_) / \ \/\ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 09:46:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13168; Thu, 1 Jun 95 09:46:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07516; Thu, 1 Jun 95 09:37:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07510; Thu, 1 Jun 95 09:37:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHDCx-00038HC; Thu, 1 Jun 95 09:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: swong@pobox.com (Sylvia Wong) Subject: Lonely Lily Date: 1 Jun 95 15:15:22 HKT Message-Id: <3qk3cn$c91@news.asiaonline.net> Status: RO X-Status: My friend Lily lives in Hong Kong, like me. She loves to receive phone calls from foreign men. She does not have computer, so I am sending this message for her. If you want to call her and you are in the United States the number is 011 852 1747 3094. Callers from other countries need to put the international code then 852 1747 3094. No e-mail please. Sylvia Wong From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 09:49:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13518; Thu, 1 Jun 95 09:49:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05108; Thu, 1 Jun 95 09:41:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cascade.cascade.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05102; Thu, 1 Jun 95 09:41:21 -0700 Received: (from rcook@localhost) by cascade.cascade.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA17856; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 09:39:31 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 09:39:31 -0700 (PDT) From: roland cook To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: beep Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: My local computer has stopped beeping on receipt of new mail when online with pine. Is this due to some setting in pine, on local PC, on host? rcook From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 10:51:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16282; Thu, 1 Jun 95 10:51:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06480; Thu, 1 Jun 95 10:43:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pogo.den.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06474; Thu, 1 Jun 95 10:43:44 -0700 Received: by pogo.den.mmc.com (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23093; Thu, 1 Jun 95 11:43:08 -0600 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 11:43:07 -0600 (MDT) From: Michael S Hartman To: Sylvia Wong Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Lonely Lily In-Reply-To: <3qk3cn$c91@news.asiaonline.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now i know what spam is............. MIke From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 11:06:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17078; Thu, 1 Jun 95 11:06:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06814; Thu, 1 Jun 95 10:57:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06806; Thu, 1 Jun 95 10:57:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHELx-00038CC; Thu, 1 Jun 95 10:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: st92bpfv@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Neil Harkins) Subject: HELP: pine not using FQDN for reply-to address? Date: 23 May 1995 19:42:42 GMT Message-Id: <3ptdri$7be@noc2.drexel.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hello, we are using Pine 3.91 on a SOLARIS 2.4 Sparc 20, which is using smail3.1.29 as the transport. Whenever I send a message to a person on the system, it fills in @hostname instead of @hostname.domain, and does this in the reply to field also, so that mail is going out as if were from user@hostname instead of using user@hostname.domain. Therefore mail fails to return to me properly. ARGH. `hostname` returns the hostname `domainname` returns the domain name Where does pine look to find out the Fully Qualified Domain Name? -Neil Harkins st92bpfv@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 11:26:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18117; Thu, 1 Jun 95 11:26:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07521; Thu, 1 Jun 95 11:20:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tiny.sprintlink.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07509; Thu, 1 Jun 95 11:20:02 -0700 Received: from sjfc.edu (sjfc.edu [149.69.1.2]) by tiny.sprintlink.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA01643; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 14:18:04 -0400 Received: by sjfc.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA28935; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 14:19:14 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 14:19:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Coenraad Bakker To: Aladdin Khamis Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Setting MY SMTP SERVER TO Work with PC-PINE? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 18 May 1995, Aladdin Khamis wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anybody know how to set an SMTP server in UNIX, so PC-PINE is able > to use it and sends and receives E-mail ? > > P.s. I looked through the FAQ for pine, but I still have some hard time > doing it. > > Any help will be appreciated > Thanks Hi, I saw this message in pine-info.current but no followup. I have a similar problem. I can connect fine to my UNIX IMAP server from a PC and read my mail on the UNIX server. However, when I want to send a message, it cannot find the SMTP server. There seem to be confusing instructions about whether it requires an SMTP server. One place it says that it will use sendmail as a default, another place it says that PC-Pine requires SMTP. The latter appears to be the case because if I leave "smtp-server" blank in the config file, it keeps asking for the SMTP server. When I specify the same server to which I connect to read the mail, it cannot connect. That UNIX system has been used for years with pine for regular login users. It may be that the UNIX server is not propoerly set up as an SMTP server even though there is an entry in /etc/services. However, I have a hard time finding information about how to set it up as an SMTP server. Anyone can help me with this? Thanks, Coenraad Bakker From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 11:39:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18932; Thu, 1 Jun 95 11:39:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07842; Thu, 1 Jun 95 11:30:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.bridgeway.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07836; Thu, 1 Jun 95 11:30:51 -0700 Received: by server.bridgeway.com id <207658>; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 11:30:50 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 11:30:40 -0700 From: Andrew Le To: Michael S Hartman Cc: Sylvia Wong , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Lonely Lily In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Explain... ================================================================== Andrew Le support@server.bridgeway.com Bridgeway Corporation 206-881-4270 Bridging the Gap in Network Mgt. 206-861-1774 fax ================================================================== On Thu, 1 Jun 1995, Michael S Hartman wrote: > <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Now i know what spam is............. > > MIke > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 12:07:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20303; Thu, 1 Jun 95 12:07:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10695; Thu, 1 Jun 95 11:57:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10689; Thu, 1 Jun 95 11:57:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHFMt-00038CC; Thu, 1 Jun 95 11:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Scott Lawrence Subject: Re: Any pattern-matching and filtering capability in Pine 3.91 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 09:07:03 -0400 Message-Id: References: <9505312224.AB18292@delta1.deltanet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9505312224.AB18292@delta1.deltanet.com> Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 31 May 1995, LervA wrote: > In article <3q4ndi$1fp@latte.eng.umd.edu> you wrote: > : I'm a new user of Pine (only started using it this month), and would like > : to know if Pine has any utilities for redirecting mail to specific > : folders based on their subject or their sender. > : If Pine lacks such utilities, are there others that can do the same > : thing? If the only thing that will do the job is the utility "filter", > : examples of rules files would be greatly appreciated. > > : Scott > > Did you ever find out anything about this? > I was wondering the same thing. I saw no posts in the group that answered this question. You're the only person I've received mail from who even mentioned it. Scott From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 12:11:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20503; Thu, 1 Jun 95 12:11:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10844; Thu, 1 Jun 95 12:05:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pogo.den.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10838; Thu, 1 Jun 95 12:05:57 -0700 Received: by pogo.den.mmc.com (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25481; Thu, 1 Jun 95 13:05:37 -0600 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 13:05:37 -0600 (MDT) From: Michael S Hartman To: Andrew Le Cc: Sylvia Wong , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Lonely Lily In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 1 Jun 1995, Andrew Le wrote: > Explain... > > > ================================================================== > Andrew Le support@server.bridgeway.com > Bridgeway Corporation 206-881-4270 > Bridging the Gap in Network Mgt. 206-861-1774 fax > ================================================================== > > On Thu, 1 Jun 1995, Michael S Hartman wrote: > > > <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > Now i know what spam is............. > > > > MIke > > > I got a message saying this is a hoax, called a spam. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 12:26:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21059; Thu, 1 Jun 95 12:26:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11227; Thu, 1 Jun 95 12:22:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from grizzly.ucla.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11221; Thu, 1 Jun 95 12:22:12 -0700 Received: from ms.asucla.ucla.edu. (ms.asucla.ucla.edu [128.97.252.6]) by grizzly.ucla.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA37857 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 12:21:20 -0700 Received: by ms.asucla.ucla.edu. with Microsoft Mail id <2FCE1313@ms.asucla.ucla.edu.>; Thu, 01 Jun 95 12:20:51 PDT From: "Brunker, Jay" To: pinelist Subject: subscribe Date: Thu, 01 Jun 95 12:17:00 PDT Message-Id: <2FCE1313@ms.asucla.ucla.edu.> Encoding: 3 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Status: O X-Status: subscribe pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 12:27:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21090; Thu, 1 Jun 95 12:27:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11220; Thu, 1 Jun 95 12:22:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from grizzly.ucla.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11214; Thu, 1 Jun 95 12:22:10 -0700 Received: from ms.asucla.ucla.edu. (ms.asucla.ucla.edu [128.97.252.6]) by grizzly.ucla.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA31717 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 12:21:22 -0700 Received: by ms.asucla.ucla.edu. with Microsoft Mail id <2FCE1315@ms.asucla.ucla.edu.>; Thu, 01 Jun 95 12:20:53 PDT From: "Brunker, Jay" To: pinelist Subject: subscribe Date: Thu, 01 Jun 95 12:18:00 PDT Message-Id: <2FCE1315@ms.asucla.ucla.edu.> Encoding: 3 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Status: O X-Status: subscribe pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 14:36:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26154; Thu, 1 Jun 95 14:36:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11884; Thu, 1 Jun 95 14:28:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11878; Thu, 1 Jun 95 14:28:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHHkQ-00038CC; Thu, 1 Jun 95 14:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ibarnett@gbc.gbrownc.on.ca (Ian Barnett) Subject: Re: Entering French Characters into Pine (Pico)???? Date: 1 Jun 1995 08:58:42 -0400 Message-Id: <3qkdi3$hus@gbc.gbrownc.on.ca> References: <3qabld$av7@gbc.gbrownc.on.ca> Status: O X-Status: I was able to solve the problem of entering French characters by changing the pico source code. There is a range of characters (including most of the French characters) excluded from entry. I don't know why this range was excluded so I just allowed the entry of these characters. If any one wants to know how to do this email me and I will post the changes I made to the source to allow this. Ian Barnett From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 14:59:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26900; Thu, 1 Jun 95 14:59:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14290; Thu, 1 Jun 95 14:53:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14284; Thu, 1 Jun 95 14:53:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHI8k-00038CC; Thu, 1 Jun 95 14:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: suresh@cs.Stanford.EDU (Suresh Venkatasubramanian) Subject: Pine bug maybe ? Date: 1 Jun 1995 20:28:04 GMT Message-Id: <3ql7sk$jaq@Radon.Stanford.EDU> Status: O X-Status: There's this interesting bug(?) I found in Pine. When I receive a forwarded message from another user using a non-Pine mailer, Pine splits the mail into two separate mails: One is an empty mail from the user forwarding the message which merely contains "So-and-so writes:", and the second mail contains the text of the mail, and appears to come from the original sender. Does anyone know why this happens and what I could do to rectify it ? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 15:32:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28767; Thu, 1 Jun 95 15:32:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13169; Thu, 1 Jun 95 15:28:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13163; Thu, 1 Jun 95 15:28:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHIft-00038CC; Thu, 1 Jun 95 15:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Pine 3.91/Linux/Imap problem Date: 31 May 1995 22:53:15 GMT Message-Id: <3qis0r$1enk@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3q396b$vt@news4.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: In article , Mark Crispin wrote: >You should either get a remote preauthenticated IMAP server, or an >immediate error with the command: > rsh server /etc/rimapd >If you aren't, something is wrong with the way your system is set up. Another possibility: If you are using a pseudo-SLIP or pseudo-PPP program, such as TIA or SLiRP, programs running locally are unable to bind to port 513, which rsh uses. "Reserved ports" (those with numbers under 1,024 on most operating systems) cannot be bound unless the process has root authority. rsh, rlogin, etc., simply won't run if you are using a pseudo-SLIP or pseudo-TIA program, and you must use the {hostname:143}INBOX form in order to keep Pine from trying the rsh method, which will hang indefinitely. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 16:15:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01078; Thu, 1 Jun 95 16:15:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14280; Thu, 1 Jun 95 16:09:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14274; Thu, 1 Jun 95 16:09:15 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10681; Thu, 1 Jun 95 16:09:14 -0700 From: "Brunker, Jay" To: pineown Subject: Unix install Date: Thu, 01 Jun 95 14:31:00 PDT Message-Id: <2FCE323C@ms.asucla.ucla.edu.> Encoding: 12 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 16:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: To All: I'm interested in installing PINE on a HP 8XX computer w/9.04. Would someone be able to tell me what kind of info should be present in a users ' profile? Is there any kind of 'cookbook' method somewhere that I can read? Jay Brunker From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 16:16:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01161; Thu, 1 Jun 95 16:16:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16107; Thu, 1 Jun 95 16:13:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16101; Thu, 1 Jun 95 16:13:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHJMA-00038ZC; Thu, 1 Jun 95 16:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barmar@nic.near.net (Barry Margolin) Subject: Re: PINE, please don't generate headers Date: 1 Jun 1995 18:26:25 -0400 Message-Id: <3qleqh$spn@tools.near.net> References: <3qg9at$1l0@zeus.cuci.nl> <3qieue$lbh@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> <3qj2hv$1h9@zeus.cuci.nl> Status: O X-Status: In article <3qj2hv$1h9@zeus.cuci.nl> srb@cuci.nl (Stephen R. van den Berg) writes: >The only thing you have to ensure is that the *entire* message id is unique >in time and space. How you accomplish this, is entirely your choice >(be it by magic, or whatever encoding scheme you have in mind). The designers of RFC 822 didn't choose to use the addr-spec format arbitrarily. It was clearly the *intent* of RFC 822 that this global uniqueness be accomplished by creating a locally-unique local part and using the globally-unique name or address of the sending host to the right of the @. Other than "by magic", there's simply no other way to ensure that message ID's are globally unique (given existing protocols -- another possibility is some central message-id registry, but there isn't one). -- Barry Margolin BBN Planet Corporation, Cambridge, MA barmar@{bbnplanet.com,near.net,nic.near.net,netcom.com} Phone (617) 873-3126 - Fax (617) 873-5124 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 16:52:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03020; Thu, 1 Jun 95 16:52:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16872; Thu, 1 Jun 95 16:48:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16866; Thu, 1 Jun 95 16:48:10 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14154; Thu, 1 Jun 95 16:48:06 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 16:47:53 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Scott Lawrence Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Any pattern-matching and filtering capability in Pine 3.91 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.2 owGdVU1oHVUUTpFSveDW9SGoaeBlJkmT0MSQ5GEbfSWNxqTEn5Zw38ydN7eZuXcy 986bPgiI4KYI3YjoTjeuRMFacKN7QRQUd0XqQhfuRNyIYP3unfeSSBGKQ3Lfnfvz nXO+850zN8euPHJ6LPx26/a9r7bfevvx7745dSr/7dT94v4f7/xEf0V/7r76xRuL n9zqv/f6Y8sbP2arH/z6s93/+7MFe+3Ll75+//e7Rf5o3r391N3Fd9/8YevTD7// 5dbNj+58fufjM/e6p42NpRrDw15QtJNWLZqhS5WimcXF+RZtR9pa2uB1KVQkqC61 FUuMrRAO74q4Redm6DIfDE9viLJ/5on26NgK4W+FOop4aWWUCVo+dzCnYvnkTFKs ZdxaEQjVC6o8DkRcrdBAV8d3V2iJOhM5cVKipsqIknRCL0ol6KxW2YCMBayIsSVV j6Qlm0pDuVY2nWwRVzHVuspiyuS+oCGg1bSvdE1yiJRyg5MDqqzMpJXCUKJLKkUs SxFZh5tzmblrphCRTGQ0Qkp0FovSUJcb+KAVrAtZkqm613GTgDJcEArnglFAQ7sZ j/YNDkfpsWn4XAp3C6N2PwYv3FLEFcXabZDh+XEoKdxbJQfptjwlfq25VcssG127 rrskjZ821gY0nsjMinK8NYITN3heZCAAJJeVm+AExobDrqBeKbiFDV4U4EZyUN9E 5YcLMvbpE33kKZEgX1fWUdu4xLvu1SVotdEE1dxhO24al4fB+eNBI50OlmpSmgpt rCHpOYYfuiqaGLkyNdiKm8wfVMJYqVVA9IquJhouG14AVoBPZKkz0RfIbyRkH/d8 cpNS51Sn2vmuKBfKgWBTWu8H2zkJTjyyFc+A2RPWHHtwUEkLY4kVqkVdxKo0/gUv HWOm2SCGGXQKOG72QV8Q0DOTjHWapcxoinTfww1j9VpZb2+h5Nbh5RIKdLh4Ac5m unDe0o7gOS0XWJ5K+MFarCMUC3CCiEcBeHaUWvDiagz53uQqGtDl6Dld9VJaVu41 X5MyiHS+wrYbAS/R8ygTJ70ONVIBM8bwnnCJQD3EMkngKsxLhYsuicOSWGWMHu5h zMcSa4A6viDXWGTITDkYGnViQNDIdVKpyCcAVMXID3UHTZWwotS9kueoH19P4Hgc S5HL7birw5HU/XyI37y4I4hI2WCcnM/sNaTkmp+tY5+jmUBFsbA451TmKsAzjho5 8g9mRSO19dESWiJ0hby5LsR8IocOuUXo06UxHUCSVtywBH+Mi0z7SjbC9wHed851 0TQ5ksFYam2xFIZ1XQeRNIFOpZ5CB3QtNK7CI7AQCgjRLJWwoTMYHvnptOF2g9Tm 2f+GGzH7bzTmAioy7mR7IiLzYCSMJd4wxiDlWTSALiGfsKi6oZQhpCVKZ+zI7T1n bQ+WHvLiyEF/hbHDq3RIdHg1xHiB99GlNgK6jN4IQeOJs3ztwSohOjs7vTBJC+fn pxZm56bZYUiHex6IaBu1XLu4Lqoe1CvK1n9U5EmUuem5eTq73n55kl1R0tODJoyE 7x4ZbtGmsLUu8V14Gu3U2FKij0B2z+q8qKxX2qWLU7PTbG4eYDPzNqU2mtnmRXym IUwLgnfbtHh+Zhqf4ivbbUT/Dw== =HFLC -----END PGP MESSAGE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 17:06:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04046; Thu, 1 Jun 95 17:06:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17092; Thu, 1 Jun 95 17:01:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17086; Thu, 1 Jun 95 17:01:29 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14489; Thu, 1 Jun 95 17:01:18 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 17:01:14 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Gerry Howser Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Filtering headers in PINE (3.89) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Gerry, The behavior you described for Linux is the expected Pine behavior (though you will see Reply-To: and Cc: if they exist). I am not familiar with the Unisys port (where did you get it?) but it should behave the same. You should _never_ see a Recieved: header, etc, in Pine unless you specifically enable the full-header command and use it... --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 31 May 1995, Gerry Howser wrote: > I appreciate the thought, but I have already tried that. The problem I > have is a little more subtle than that. I have had Pine running on a > lynix box for some time now and the ONLY headers a user sees (with a > plain vanilla .pinerc file) are the DATE, TO, FROM, and SUBJECT. My > Director wishes to see only those headers on all mail. By this I mean > that he want me to filter the Reply-to, Received, and all Comment type > headers. All he wants is to see those four headers and no others, even > if they were attached by previous mailers. I think I will have to look > at the way that Pine processes the header and delete every line except > those four and find some way to turn the whole thing on and off so that I > will still have the headers for debugging. > > The headers that I am talking about are present if you use mailx, also. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gerry Howser (POSTMASTER) > howser@lincolnu.edu > Manager of Systems, Programming, and Telecommunications > Lincoln University > Jefferson City, MO 65102-0029 > > On Wed, 31 May 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > > Return-Path: > > Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by lincolnu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) > > id AA27655; Wed, 31 May 95 02:51:11 CDT > > Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu > > (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19190; > > Wed, 31 May 95 00:49:33 -0700 > > Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 00:49:23 -0700 (PDT) > > From: David L Miller > > To: Gerry Howser > > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > Subject: Re: Filtering headers in PINE (3.89) > > In-Reply-To: > > Message-Id: > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > On Tue, 30 May 1995, Gerry Howser wrote: > > > > > I have recently installed PINE on a U6000/550 from Unisys and am having a > > > MINOR problem: How can I filter the headers on an incoming message so > > > that all the Received-From and X-.... headers do not show? I have PINE > > > on a LYNIX box and it only shows the Date, To, From, and Subject > > > headers. Is this a pine configuration option, a compile option, or a > > > SENDMAIL option? I need to resolve this before I am called in to train > > > the University President and his V.P.'s > > > > > > > Pine will not show the extra headers unless you turn on the > > enable-full-header-cmd feature in your .pinerc file (or > > /usr/local/lib/pine.conf) and give the 'h' command. Giving 'h' again will > > toggle the full header mode back off... > > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: 2.6.2 > > > > iQBVAwUBL8wfit/IU4uTDdHNAQGrwQIAhe27jbou3r8pnsEXgR72boj0Zz1EiDYs > > 8rMhvYvVmmJWXWaRGBge+r80HQG38rSMew7qrIHakz7tzGvYNCeHuQ== > > =0/hA > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 17:15:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04403; Thu, 1 Jun 95 17:15:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15880; Thu, 1 Jun 95 17:09:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15874; Thu, 1 Jun 95 17:09:27 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14725; Thu, 1 Jun 95 17:08:11 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 17:08:05 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Leslie Jennings Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Shared address book In-Reply-To: <3qhpfh$oeo@balsam.unca.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 31 May 1995, Leslie Jennings wrote: > Leslie Jennings (jennings@cs.unca.edu) wrote: > : How would I go about setting up a shared address book on a UNIX system? > > Let me rephrase... how do I go about setting up pine so that all new > users use the same global addressbook? I'd rather not have to tell the > user how to go into setup/config and manually change the location of the > global addressbook. > You can set the global-addressbook in your system-wide /usr/local/lib/pine/conf file... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 17:26:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04793; Thu, 1 Jun 95 17:26:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16139; Thu, 1 Jun 95 17:22:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16133; Thu, 1 Jun 95 17:22:09 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14994; Thu, 1 Jun 95 17:22:02 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 17:21:58 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Gerry Howser Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Why can't I suppress headers? (second try) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 31 May 1995, Gerry Howser wrote: > I agree that the mailer on the Unisys may be including an errant line. > There was an earlier problem like that with POP3 clients. Any ideas? I > strongly suspect a blank line BEFORE the actual header (may be just a > NEWLINE) is the problem. > > The question is: Who do I hang? > > Unless my wits have deserted me completly, isn't the first blank line, or > single newline character, the definition of the end of the header and > beginning of the body? If so, I am going to rattle some cages at UNISYS! > That is correct. The end of the header is actually two consecutive newlines, the end of the last line followed immediately by another newline. If that appears before the end of the headers, whomever put it in needs to be hung :) Sorry about the previous confusion... --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 18:42:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06590; Thu, 1 Jun 95 18:42:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17138; Thu, 1 Jun 95 18:33:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17132; Thu, 1 Jun 95 18:33:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHLZC-00038CC; Thu, 1 Jun 95 18:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: literal empty string {0} in IMAP4 Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 16:47:24 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 31 May 1995, S Jin wrote: > I would appreciate very much if anyone can make it clear. > In IMAP4 (RFC 1730), if a client send a literal empty string {0} > to an IMAP4 server, the server should response with a command > continuation request response with the token "+". (See Page 6 and > 38 in the RFC) > And then what the IMAP4 server expects next? Is it a new command? > Or is it still the rest of the previous command? One of two things is expected: 1) either a space and subsequent arguments to the command. 2) CRLF to complete the command Or, as you put it, "still the rest of the previous command". -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 18:51:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06799; Thu, 1 Jun 95 18:51:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18647; Thu, 1 Jun 95 18:48:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18641; Thu, 1 Jun 95 18:48:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHLqb-00038HC; Thu, 1 Jun 95 18:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rahul Dhesi Subject: Re: PINE, please don't generate headers Date: 1 Jun 1995 22:17:02 GMT Message-Id: <3qle8u$r0t@hustle.rahul.net> References: <3q5kll$5pa@ocean.CAM.ORG> <3qg5v5$n5f@hustle.rahul.net> <3qg9at$1l0@zeus.cuci.nl> Status: O X-Status: In Mark Crispin writes: >Van den Berg is correct and Dhesi is wrong. >A sub-domain, in turn, may be a "domain-ref", which is a single atom. >The relevant elements of RFC-822 syntax follow: > msg-id = "<" addr-spec ">" ; Unique message id Being right has has never stopped me from being wrong. My philosophy re 'right' vs 'wrong' may be extracted from the saved posting that is appended below. It would be interesting to know: What is pine's algorithm for guaranteeing uniquenss without ensuring that the right-hand-side is in the form of a dotted domain name? Date: 25 May 95 20:26:25 GMT From: Rahul Dhesi Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.smail,comp.mail.headers Subject: Re: is this a bad header? (gurus welcome) Organization: a2i network In bjohnson@intellinet.com (Bernard Johnson) writes: >I have been told that the following header is bad because of a "blank" >line. The line is actually not blank (or null as defined in RFC-822), >but a TAB and a SPACE character. All my mail scripts written in perl test for the end of header with something like this: if (/^\s*$) { ... } A line with only blanks is treated as end of header. I don't try too hard to be RFC-conforming, but I do try to accomodate BITNET and other IBM-based sites, which do not distinguish between empty lines and blank lines. I also try to accomodate people who manually generate messages and might accidentally add some blanks in the separating empty line. In your argument with the other party, you were probably talking at cross-purposes. Many wars begin when people talk about being 'correct' or 'portable' when they really mean 'standard-conforming'. Correctness has to do with whether or not something works in its intended environment. -- Rahul Dhesi "please ignore Dhesi" -- Mark Crispin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 19:02:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07045; Thu, 1 Jun 95 19:02:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17464; Thu, 1 Jun 95 18:58:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17458; Thu, 1 Jun 95 18:58:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHLyK-00038CC; Thu, 1 Jun 95 18:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: qq11@liverpool.ac.uk (Alan Thew) Subject: Re: reply-to header buglet Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 19:28:12 GMT Status: O X-Status: According to Barry Landy : >A Reply-To: header in a received is displayed as >Reply To >(as is also the case in a message being composed, if the Reply-To is set >up in a customised header). > >INterestingly enough, when displaying the headers in fullheader mode, the >format is >Reply-To: > >Is this deliberate (feature) or a mistake (bug)? >If deliberate, is it more confusing (to those who know the RFC calls it >Reply-To) or less confusing (to naive users)? I've always wondered about this but have lost no sleep about it :-) It looks like a feature... -- Alan Thew alan.thew@liv.ac.uk ...!uknet!liv!alan.thew Tel: +44 151 794-4497 University of Liverpool, Computing Services Fax: +44 151 794-4442 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 19:31:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07838; Thu, 1 Jun 95 19:31:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19164; Thu, 1 Jun 95 19:28:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19158; Thu, 1 Jun 95 19:28:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHMQn-00038EC; Thu, 1 Jun 95 19:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simone@crash.cts.com (Simone Shoemaker) Subject: question about sent-mail folder Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 00:32:00 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I notice that every time I send a message, it gets copied to a folder called "sent mail". Is there any purpose behind this? As as far as I'm concerned, I don't need to keep those messages around. Is there a way to tell the Pine to quit doing this - or at least ask me whether I want to save a particular message? Simone From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 19:54:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08418; Thu, 1 Jun 95 19:54:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18175; Thu, 1 Jun 95 19:48:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18168; Thu, 1 Jun 95 19:48:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHMiS-00038CC; Thu, 1 Jun 95 19:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley) Subject: Re: PINE, please don't generate headers Date: 1 Jun 1995 22:16:49 GMT Message-Id: <3qle8h$1do@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> References: <3q5kll$5pa@ocean.CAM.ORG> <3qg9at$1l0@zeus.cuci.nl> <3qieue$lbh@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> <3qj2hv$1h9@zeus.cuci.nl> Status: O X-Status: In article <3qj2hv$1h9@zeus.cuci.nl>, Stephen R. van den Berg wrote: >John Stanley wrote: >>As the manager of a gateway, I have had to include code to massage >>message id's received from mail into ones acceptable to news. Mostly >>removing spaces, but also removing illegal characters. > >Just as a side note, simply looking for `illegal' characters is not >enough. You have to do full rfc822 parsing. >I.e. <"bla_BLA-"@some.domain.name> is a correct messageid. No, I do not have to parse anything. I am not simply looking for illegal characters, I am removing them. The result is a valid message id. It may not be the same message id, but I have a copy of the incoming one, and either a copy of the outgoing or the ability to recreate it, so it doesn't matter. >>There is also a limitation on what characters they may contain. > >Well, yes, if you must, there is indeed a third requirement: > 3. To the left of the @-sign, there must be some text that should *look* > like the local part of an e-mail address. Then there is also a fourth requirement: 4. The message id cannot contain certain characters. For example, spaces are prohibited in the domain part. This is not a complete list. >Right, indeed. The RFC says unique in time and space. But the rfc >does not say that the part to the left of the @ sign should be >locally unique and the part to the right of the @ sign should be >globally unique. Please read the RFC before continuing to comment. The RFC does, indeed, specify that the local part is unique, but since it does not specify how it is to be made unique, it cannot be guaranteed to be anything but locally unique. It also specifies "domain" for the right side, and because of DNS and the way domain names are created, it will be globally unique. >The only thing you have to ensure is that the *entire* message id is unique >in time and space. How you accomplish this, is entirely your choice >(be it by magic, or whatever encoding scheme you have in mind). No, the RFC does limit you. >E.g. if you put merely the hostname without the fully qualified domain >part to the right of the @ sign, then you could, for example, ensure >uniqueness by encoding the IP number of the machine in the left part No, sorry. How the local part is created is up to each system. That means, yes, you can encode what you want there, but that also means others can encode the same things the same way and come up with the same thing. >So, using the FQDN to the right of the @ sign sure is one way to get >to a unique and valid message id, but it is by no means the only way. With the current RFC, it is the only way. Yes, you can come up with other schemes, but those schemes are not RFC compliant. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 20:22:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09223; Thu, 1 Jun 95 20:22:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19800; Thu, 1 Jun 95 20:18:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19793; Thu, 1 Jun 95 20:18:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHNEB-00038CC; Thu, 1 Jun 95 20:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "H. Marc Kneppers" Subject: Re: Setting MY SMTP SERVER TO Work with PC-PINE? Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 15:27:51 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Yup, I have the same problem. I can connect via imap no problem, but I can't send a message. As far as I understand it, you don't need anything special on the PC-Pine end (gateways or anything). The UNIX smtp server should just pick up the connection request at port 25. I had to fill in my own 'smtp server:' field in the pinerc file. Here it is: smtp-server: PAMCO_UX this is the host name of our computer (we're not on the net so I don't have to worry about any further domain designation, etc.) When I try to send mail I get an error "SMTP connection went away". The system logs show that there was a connection, and it even creates a directory in the /var/spool/smtpq area for the incoming connection but NO DATA is transferred!! I posted before and got a little response.(still haven't got it working) Some suggested that it was due to a faulty TCP/IP stack on the PC end of thing (the Novell stack wasn't great). I also would appreciate any help getting this to work. Marc Kneppers kneppers@acs.ucalgary.ca On 1 Jun 1995, Coenraad Bakker wrote: > On Thu, 18 May 1995, Aladdin Khamis wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Does anybody know how to set an SMTP server in UNIX, so PC-PINE is able > > to use it and sends and receives E-mail ? > > > > P.s. I looked through the FAQ for pine, but I still have some hard time > > doing it. > > > > Any help will be appreciated > > Thanks > > Hi, > I saw this message in pine-info.current but no followup. I have a > similar problem. I can connect fine to my UNIX IMAP server from a PC and > read my mail on the UNIX server. However, when I want to send a message, > it cannot find the SMTP server. There seem to be confusing instructions (...stuff deleted...) > have a hard time finding information about how to set it up as an SMTP > server. Anyone can help me with this? > > Thanks, > Coenraad Bakker From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 1 23:13:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13378; Thu, 1 Jun 95 23:13:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21069; Thu, 1 Jun 95 23:09:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21063; Thu, 1 Jun 95 23:09:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHPqx-00038CC; Thu, 1 Jun 95 23:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Re: How can I get a "successful delivered" mail after sending? Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 19:28:20 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 21 May 1995, Ian Russell Ollmann wrote: > If you add a customized header which says: > > Return-Receipt-To: > > to your message, most sendmail programs will send a receipt to any address > appearing after the header. [...] > It should be emphasised that this does not work on all > systems since not _all_ systems support the Return-Receipt feature. [...] Thanks for replying. I was aware of these points (especially how to configure Pine). Somehow I had the idea (perhaps mistakenly on my part) that someone was claiming to have coerced a delivery reciept from a receiving end by doing something on a sending end. As you point out, not all systems even respond to the Return-Receipt-To: field if it is present. I certainly do not have any kind of figures, but I speculate that a significant portion of non-Unix systems (e.g., IBM VM/PROFS) do not recognize this field. In such a case, there is nothing the person using Pine to *send* mail can do, short of getting a new Internet standard through and waiting for it to be universally implemented. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 00:24:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15139; Fri, 2 Jun 95 00:24:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22580; Fri, 2 Jun 95 00:20:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22574; Fri, 2 Jun 95 00:20:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHQxx-00038CC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 00:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: => MS-Mail gateway SMTP Non-documented error <= Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 09:37:27 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article dancona@ibm.unige.ch (Daniel D'Ancona) writes: >The external SMTP router says EHLO, my MS-gateway doesn't understand it and >closes connection. At this point, any further communication becomes impossible. >This error isn't documented by MS. >The question is: What configuration must I have for my gateway to solve this >problem ? A fixed version of MS-mail Alan -- ..-----------,,----------------------------,,----------------------------,, // Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU // ``----------'`----------------------------'`----------------------------'' Redistribution of this message via the Microsoft Network is prohibited From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 00:39:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15627; Fri, 2 Jun 95 00:39:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22180; Fri, 2 Jun 95 00:31:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22174; Fri, 2 Jun 95 00:31:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHR8F-00038EC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 00:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kinnk@cougar.vut.edu.au (Nicholas King) Subject: Redirecting Pine Date: 22 May 1995 09:09:33 +1000 Message-Id: <3poh7d$5kk@cougar.vut.edu.au> Status: O X-Status: hey PPls, Just a quick question, how can you redirect a certain Address Like A Mailing list from your inbox to a folder so that it doesnt clog up your in box, any suggestions please Email them to me, thanks Cheers -- -- Victoria University of Technology Nicholas King Information Technology (Melton Campus) .-_!\ Phone : (03) 747 7432 PO Box 14428 MMC, Melbourne 3000 / \ Fax : (03) 743 1554 Mail ---> kinnk@cougar.vut.edu.au \_.-._/ ---> Nicholas=King@vut.edu.au V -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 02:56:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18740; Fri, 2 Jun 95 02:56:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24210; Fri, 2 Jun 95 02:49:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24204; Fri, 2 Jun 95 02:49:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHTIn-00038EC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 02:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mshallop@scruznet.com (Micheal Shallop) Subject: pop3/port 143 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 22:50:00 PST Message-Id: <1995Jun1.224447@mshallop.sc.scruznet.com> Status: O X-Status: Using pop3 on port 110... inbox-path={host.provider.com}INBOX inetd.conf and services set-up ok... I start pine and get error - can't connect to service.provider.com,143 - connection refused What am I not setting up that's causing pine to go out to port 143 and not port 110? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 03:58:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20149; Fri, 2 Jun 95 03:58:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24626; Fri, 2 Jun 95 03:46:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24620; Fri, 2 Jun 95 03:46:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHUDc-00038CC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 03:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: olsen@menext3.engr.ucdavis.edu (Thomas Olsen) Subject: Username Date: 1 Jun 1995 21:29:42 GMT Message-Id: <3qlbg6$mt4@mark.ucdavis.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hello, I have a problem with my user id. On the machine where I read and respond to email, my username is simply olsen. However, most of my mail is routed through a machine where I'm known as tholsen. The problem appears when I try to respond to the mail. The mail is form user@host.domain.net and is to tholsen@ucdavis.edu. When I try to reply, Pine asks if I want to reply to everyone which means user@host.domain.net and tholsen@ucdavis.edu. My question is how to I get Pine to recognize that I am tholsen@ucdavis.edu? Tom Olsen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 05:21:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22748; Fri, 2 Jun 95 05:21:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25837; Fri, 2 Jun 95 05:09:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hsv-server.cici.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25831; Fri, 2 Jun 95 05:09:33 -0700 Received: from sigma.cici.com by hsv-server.cici.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA19609; Fri, 2 Jun 95 07:21:42 CDT Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 07:07:25 -0500 From: Dave Wood Subject: Error with INBOX To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1260 Status: O X-Status: When i start up my PINE 3.89 program on my Linux system, it says: Folder format invalidated (consult an expert) aborted. After that it says: No folder opened. Once it says that, it will allow me to compose messages, and open all the saved mail folders, except for the INBOX. This is really annoying. It happened on June 1st, right after the program prompted me to move all sent-mail to May-sent-mail. If ya need any more information I would be happy to oblige. Thank you in advance for any help you can give me. Dave *********************************************************************** * _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ * * _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ * * _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ * * _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ * * _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ * *********************************************************************** * << SigmaRho @ IRC >> << E-Mail: drwood@cici.com >> * * << Home Page @ http://www.cici.com/~drwood/home.html >> * *********************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 06:19:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23735; Fri, 2 Jun 95 06:19:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26620; Fri, 2 Jun 95 06:10:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26614; Fri, 2 Jun 95 06:10:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHWQ8-00038CC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 06:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ben T. Feese" Subject: Re: export whole folder? Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 08:23:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: If I may, I would tag onto this query with a slightly different problem-- I run PC Pine on my home machine mainly for the purpose of being able to read OFFLINE my (Unix) Pine mail (which I get on a dialup acct at the school where I teach). I ftp the Unix Pine folders to my home machine. Problem is, while the PC Pine will read these Unix Pine folders OK, the folders are READ-ONLY. I can copy individual articles to PC Pine folders, but I cannot then delete the thus-transferred articles from the Unix Pine folders. Can anyone tell me if there is a way I can carry out a "MASS" copy of the entire Unix pine folder to a PC pine folder, so I won't have to fool with dozens or hundreds of individual article copyings? Also, is there anyway of tagging articles (using the ";" key or whatever as in Unix pine) and then applying a command en masse? I have PC Pine 3.91 for Windows/Winsock and cannot figure out how to access this feature which I so love on the Unix pine. TIA ============================================================================= Ben T. Feese Professor of Biology Biochemistry/Molecular Biology Program Centre College, Danville, KY 40422 (USA) http://www.centre.edu Internet: feeseb@centre.edu Phone: (606) 238-5318 FAX: (606) 236-7925 ============================================================================= On 31 May 1995, Don Sugarman wrote: > On Wed, 31 May 1995, R Russell Neuswanger wrote: > > > I can back up a folder by exporting each message to a file in my > > home directory, appending each to the previous, and then ftp'ing that > > from here (my pine account's on a machine in the bowels of the building > > somewhere) onto a diskette -- but the process is tedious, and the result > > messy. Is there a good way to transfer a whole folder intact onto a > > diskette, off that other machine, onto a diskette stuffed into the > > workstation I sit at? LaMail, which comes bundled with the OS/2 package > > (at least the one we have here), is pretty flaky, but it does transfer > > whole folders onto diskette without supervision, in the background, while > > I get something else done; surely pine can do better?? > > > The folder is just an ascii text file, usually stored in the subdirectory > 'mail' under your home directory. Just transfer that file to diskette in > the same way you were transfering the file you were exporting to. > > e.g., copy mail/ a: if attached to your file server. > > This has nothing to do with Pine. > > Don Sugarman > sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 07:58:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25905; Fri, 2 Jun 95 07:58:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27678; Fri, 2 Jun 95 07:50:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27672; Fri, 2 Jun 95 07:50:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHY0I-00038LC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 07:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kmforest@mailbox.syr.edu (Kathleen M. Foresti) Subject: Re: remote mail server Date: 2 Jun 1995 12:04:24 GMT Message-Id: <3qmuo8$lir@newstand.syr.edu> Status: O X-Status: I'd be interested too. Article: 8848 of comp.mail.pine Path: newstand.syr.edu!transit.nyser.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.bluesky.net!news.mathworks.com!uunet!news.LASER.NET!usenet From: rmbill@laser.net Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Subject: remote mail server Date: Wed, 31 May 95 14:39:40 PDT Organization: LaserNet, L.L.C. Lines: 19 Message-ID: <3qidis$6sm@news.laser.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: support.laser.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: NEWTNews & Chameleon -- TCP/IP for MS Windows from NetManage I currently have 7 BSDI boxes. Is it possible to forward all mail to a new (8th) machine and have all my users get mail from that machine without logging into it? I am using Pine 3.91 and BSDI v2.0 I want to avoid the following: 1. users logging into the mail server. 2. entering users into the new machine 3. letting the users know the machine is there. Thanks Rick Bill rmbill@laser.net -- ******************************************************************** Kathie Foresti email: kmforest@mailbox.syr.edu Computing & Media Services phone: (315) 443-4103 212 Machinery Hall fax: (315) 443-3817 Syracuse University Syracuse, NY 13244-1260 ******************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 08:08:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26327; Fri, 2 Jun 95 08:08:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28089; Fri, 2 Jun 95 07:55:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28083; Fri, 2 Jun 95 07:55:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHY3j-00038IC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 07:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: morris@geni34 (Morris Berman) Subject: Problem: Can't Write to Folders Message-Id: <1995Jun2.113538.23949@arl.mil> Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 11:35:38 GMT Status: O X-Status: I just returned from 2 weeks of vacation to find my Pine working improperly. Somehow my "sent-mail" folder got marked as read-only and I can't write anything to it. It gives a "[Can't open append folder: Permission denied]" error when it tries to write it as the FCC folder and also "[Can't open append folder: Permission denied]" error when I try to copy a message into it. When I go into that folder it doesn't tell me that it's READONLY. I've tried deleting the folder and then recreating it all with no effect. I can't save any message to any folder, I get an "[Can't open destination folder: Permission denied]" error each time. I've also gotten a "[Append not valid for file]" for some folders that I've tried to save to. The permissions on all folders are set to 600, and I've tried t changing that to 777 with no effect. In addition, the directory has permissions 750. When I ran a session and just tried to save a message into a folder "junk", I got the following in the pine-debug file: so_get error: /usr/users/geni21_users/morris/mail/junk : Permission denied I'm really confused and would like to fix this problem. If anyone can give me any helpful advice, please do. I am at a loss of where to go from here. thanks, -- -Mb ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, morris@lamp0.arl.mil, http://lamp0.arl.mil:8080/~morris MSB, PFD, WTD, ARL <-- Obviously a Government Employee Yamaha XJ550M (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (R/C) #481896 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- If your reply bounces...Please reply to morris@lamp0.arl.mil -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request <=-=-=-=-=- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 08:11:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26477; Fri, 2 Jun 95 08:11:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27948; Fri, 2 Jun 95 08:05:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27942; Fri, 2 Jun 95 08:05:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHYCX-00038IC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 07:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: glouis@io.org (Greg Louis) Subject: Re: Pine/PGP interface Date: 1 Jun 1995 09:44:12 -0400 Message-Id: References: , pickerin@phoenix.sas.muohio.edu (Robert A. Pickering Jr.) wrote: > > For a well written script to interface PGP with Pine: > > > > finger slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -f > mkpgp.txt.uu Been withdrawn. Reason given is government tyranny. The site is in the US. Anybody in the civilized world ;-) got a copy? G r e g L o u i s |"'Minime aberrasti,'| pgp: finger glouis@io.org """""""""""""""""" |" dixit Pu, | or SLED: key@Four11.com http:// |" 'sed aberrasti a | 77 0B 39 81 28 CE 7D D0 www.io.org/~glouis |" folliculo!'" | 4C 7A 6E CC E7 21 4C 55 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 08:14:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26532; Fri, 2 Jun 95 08:14:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28374; Fri, 2 Jun 95 08:05:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28368; Fri, 2 Jun 95 08:05:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHYF2-00038LC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 08:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ben T. Feese" Subject: How to get OrdrdSort by Date *Sent* Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 08:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On my Pine 3.91, under the OrderdSort option, all messages with a given title are sub-ordered according to the date of *arrival*. This OrdrdSort ffeature is supposed to produced a "thread-like" display of newsgroup postings. But responding articles often arrive here AFTER the originating post, resulting in a jumbled order. Can anyone suggest how to get an OrderedSort based 1st on Subject, then on Date *SENT* ?? TIA ============================================================================= Ben T. Feese Professor of Biology Biochemistry/Molecular Biology Program Centre College, Danville, KY 40422 (USA) http://www.centre.edu Internet: feeseb@centre.edu Phone: (606) 238-5318 FAX: (606) 236-7925 ============================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 08:37:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27758; Fri, 2 Jun 95 08:37:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28211; Fri, 2 Jun 95 08:20:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28205; Fri, 2 Jun 95 08:20:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHYUn-00038MC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 08:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Gotcha Using PROCOMM+ and Pine Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 20:22:16 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This evening I discovered a gotcha with my communications software and Pine on a dialup Unix. I'll describe it, and anybody interested may email me for the fix, as it will apply only to a minority of readers. When composing/replying/forwarding in Pine, one may invoke an alternate editor (Alt Edit) with the keystroke ^_ (control-underscore). J. Kelly Cunningham's useful (thank you) tip of earlier today to replace the message-quoting characters makes use of this. I simply had had no reason to use this function before, so when I tried it, blooey! Fortunately, the fix is simple. I am using PROCOMM Plus Version 2 on an MS-DOS PC, Version 5. PROCOMM Plus dials me into my Internet service provider, a BSD Unix system which has Pine 3.91 installed. When I press the ^_ key combination, I do not get whatever I specified for an alternate editor for Pine. Instead, the screen flashes clear and shifts into 43-line mode!!! It takes a bit of coaxing and coercing on the keyboard to get my Unix-and-Pine session back. Obviously, what you see ain't what you get. Although I have not found it yet in the PROCOMM documentation, ^_ obviously does not send the desired value (hex 1F, I think) back to the host. Instead, PROCOMM Plus intercepts it and does weird things. Fortunately there is a simple solution involving PROCOMM Plus's keyboard remapping program. If my scenario fits your situation, email me and I'll send instructions on how to do it, rather than take up space here for those not affectd. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 08:44:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28101; Fri, 2 Jun 95 08:44:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29071; Fri, 2 Jun 95 08:35:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29065; Fri, 2 Jun 95 08:35:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHYcW-00038IC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 08:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: ?Possible to include addresses in mail? Message-Id: <173B1BDA1S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <3qmc07$d52@cutter.clas.ufl.edu> Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 12:29:04 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <3qmc07$d52@cutter.clas.ufl.edu> tetsuo@grove.ufl.edu (Vinod Vijay Tandon) writes: > Just wondering if there is any feature in Pine that would allow >the user to pick and include an address in a mail message automatically. >Im tired of having to write down addresses from my addressbook to include Type the nickname into the CC header - PINE will fill in the email address from your addressbook - use cntrl/K to cut it out of the CC header, then move the cursor to the body of the mail and use cntrl/U to paste it into the mail. "Write it down" - what's that? ;-) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 09:13:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00117; Fri, 2 Jun 95 09:13:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29075; Fri, 2 Jun 95 08:55:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29069; Fri, 2 Jun 95 08:55:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHZ02-00038HC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 08:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrew@rs.ucc.okstate.edu Subject: Automatic filing of messages Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 14:41:51 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: If I want to file all messages from soandso@thus.and.so.net to some folder (and have it done automatically), what do I need to do? andrew@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 09:19:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00456; Fri, 2 Jun 95 09:19:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00210; Fri, 2 Jun 95 09:10:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00204; Fri, 2 Jun 95 09:10:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHZET-00038IC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 09:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: We Resrict users to /usr/local/rbin - How can 'spell' work? Date: 1 Jun 95 13:18:24 GMT Message-Id: References: <3q2qp9$1k6@detroit.freenet.org> Status: O X-Status: dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller) writes: >On 25 May 1995, Andrew P. Dinsdale wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> We have a restricted, not chroot I *must* add, environment where users >> can only execute programs in /usr/local/rbin. This includes Pine, Lynx >> their menus, cp, rm etc etc. Users execute Pine from a menu - so typing >> a number spawns /usr/local/rbin/pine. Everything works like a charm >> except for spell (^T). We have tried moving /usr/bin/spell into >> /usr/local/rbin (as well as all the programs used by spell) but still >> no cigar. When ^T is invoked Pine simply echoes back "Done Checking >> Spelling" with no corrections made. When I run Pine in a command tool I >> see "sh: /usr/bin/spell: restricted" - this does not surprise me as we >> are not giving users access to /usr/bin!!!! >> >> Now, what I need is some good advice on how to make Pine look for 'spell' >> in the users path NOT by looking for /usr/bin/spell. Has anyone hacked >> the source successfully (we tried that too) ?? Or can any Pine developers >> who read this group explain where I would change the code. >> >Before your menu calls Pine, have it set the SPELL environment variable to >/usr/local/rbin/spell. I have been working with Andrew on this problem. I posted several weeks ago, but the only person who answered didn't have a clue as to how the restricted environment works. First, rsh will refuse to exec anything with path info in it. It rather primitively checks for /'s and exits with an error message. This is part of the protection mechanism of rsh that keeps the restricted user from accessing things you do not want her to. When I inspected the src code, I found that pine calls spell with system(). Even when 'SPELL=spell; export SPELL' was added to the ruser profile, the system() call seems to try to add path info, which causes rsh to refuse to exec it. If Andrew or I figure this out we will post. I am hoping I do not have to reimplement the portion of the code that now uses system(). >|\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 >|/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) >University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 >4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Web admin: chimera,nn,tin,jove,kermit - free's best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 10:07:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02368; Fri, 2 Jun 95 10:07:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00709; Fri, 2 Jun 95 10:00:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00703; Fri, 2 Jun 95 10:00:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHa2I-00038HC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 09:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Attaching files in Pine? Date: 1 Jun 95 13:31:24 GMT Message-Id: References: <3q69ee$acg@mail.one.net> Status: O X-Status: sugarman@mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (Don Sugarman) writes: >On 27 May 1995, John S. Kennedy wrote: >> Maybe I missed something entirely obvious ... but >> how do you attach an 8 bit file to a Pine message? >> >> Thanks! >> >In the header area, press ^J (ctrl-j), which will ask you for a file to >attach and a comment to go along with the file. Your attached file will >be MIMEd and sent. >Does your recipient use Pine or another MTA with MIME compatibility? >If not, your recipient will need mpack/munpack to decode your >attachment or you will have to uuencode your binary file and read it into >your message with ^R. If the file you are attaching is ASCII, there should be no need to attach the file using MIME. Simply read the file into pico (^R). >Regards, >Don Sugarman >sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Web admin: chimera,nn,tin,jove,kermit - free's best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 10:49:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03651; Fri, 2 Jun 95 10:49:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02279; Fri, 2 Jun 95 10:45:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02273; Fri, 2 Jun 95 10:45:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHait-00038HC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 10:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: reply-to header buglet Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 17:06:59 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: A Reply-To: header in a received is displayed as Reply To (as is also the case in a message being composed, if the Reply-To is set up in a customised header). INterestingly enough, when displaying the headers in fullheader mode, the format is Reply-To: Is this deliberate (feature) or a mistake (bug)? If deliberate, is it more confusing (to those who know the RFC calls it Reply-To) or less confusing (to naive users)? ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 11:46:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05767; Fri, 2 Jun 95 11:46:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02881; Fri, 2 Jun 95 11:40:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02875; Fri, 2 Jun 95 11:40:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHbVo-00038CC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 11:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: l38056@alfa.ist.utl.pt (CIISTiado) Subject: Re: Using Pine for News Date: 23 May 1995 14:34:22 -0000 Message-Id: <3psrpe$h62@alfa.ist.utl.pt> References: <3pme6i$t9a@silver.scs.unr.edu> Status: O X-Status: Steve Buehler (buehler@scs.unr.edu) wrote: : Regarding the previous post, I changed the configuration area of nntp-server : to tin [], but it doesn't seem to be working. Tin is the program I use : to access my newsgroups. I don't use pine to read my news (I use tin, like you) and I think that you should know the name of your nntpserver. For instance, I'm in alfa.ist.utl.pt and my nntpserver is news.ist.utl.pt. The nntpserver is normally (?) a machine name,not a program. You should call you system administrator and ask him what is your nntpserver. Or while starting tin, look to the "connecting to ..." that apears on the startup (in my tin it does...) Hope it helps. Good luck. |CIISTiado - Antonio Augusto Gaspar Lourenco - l38056@alfa.ist.utl.pt |Informatic Centre, Superior Techical Institut, Tecnical University, Lisbon |Electrotecnic and Computer Engineering - Branch of )|( | Telecomunications and Electronics PORTUGAL (o o) |--Indonesia is killing innocent people in East Timor----------ooO-(_)-Ooo-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 11:52:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06036; Fri, 2 Jun 95 11:52:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03634; Fri, 2 Jun 95 11:46:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03628; Fri, 2 Jun 95 11:46:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHbhA-00038HC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 11:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: swong@pobox.com (Sylvia Wong) Date: 1 Jun 1995 16:55:23 GMT Message-Id: Subject: cmsg cancel <3qk3cn$c91@news.asiaonline.net> Control: cancel <3qk3cn$c91@news.asiaonline.net> Status: O X-Status: Spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 13:17:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09553; Fri, 2 Jun 95 13:17:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04591; Fri, 2 Jun 95 13:12:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04579; Fri, 2 Jun 95 13:12:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHd1M-00038CC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 13:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ben T. Feese" Subject: Re: reading mail in PC, possible? Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 08:45:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 31 May 1995, Nancy McGough wrote: > Paul O Bartlett writes: > >On Sat, 27 May 1995, Special Weapons And Tactics wrote: > >> Is that posssible to read the folders in PC like reading it in > >> pine. [...] > > > >Just download the one you want to your PC and read it with > >your favorite editor or file viewer. > > And possible choices for viewing the folders on your PC are PC-Pine > for DOS and PS-Pine for Windows, which are available from: > > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine > > I think that in order to use these to view a folder on your PC you ^^^^ > need to be connected to the Net - does anyone know if that's true? > > Thanks, > Nancy ===================================================== Nancy, I am able to VIEW Unix pine folders with my PC pine (I ftp the Unix pine folders from my work Unix account to my home PC where I run PC Pine for Windows/Winsock (not a "real" MS-Windows implementation of pine). PROBLEM IS...the Unix pine folder is READ-ONLY, so that although I can view the individual articles and can copy them (one-by-one) to a PC pine folder, I cannot *delete* them from the Unix pine folder under PC pine, nor can I do a MASS copy of the Unix folder to the Pc folder format. Can you or anyone else suggest a way to ease this Unix/PC pine folder format incompatibility? I am somewhat of a pine newbie, but is there a way to find out the particularities of the format difference between a Unix pine folder and a PC pine folder, so that perhaps one could hack out a conversion utility? (some of my Unix pine folders are 2-3 megabytes and article-by-article conversion is not very enticing!). Also any word on when there will appear a PC for Windows incarnation that has all the neat features of the latest Unix pine version? Thanks! ============================================================================= Ben T. Feese Professor of Biology Biochemistry/Molecular Biology Program Centre College, Danville, KY 40422 (USA) http://www.centre.edu Internet: feeseb@centre.edu Phone: (606) 238-5318 FAX: (606) 236-7925 ============================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 13:20:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09657; Fri, 2 Jun 95 13:20:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05601; Fri, 2 Jun 95 13:12:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05595; Fri, 2 Jun 95 13:12:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHd2V-00038HC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 13:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: question about sent-mail folder Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 10:24:08 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 2 Jun 1995, Simone Shoemaker wrote: > I notice that every time I send a message, it gets copied to a folder > called "sent mail". Is there any purpose behind this? As as far as I'm > concerned, I don't need to keep those messages around. Is there a way to > tell the Pine to quit doing this - or at least ask me whether I want to > save a particular message? What you are describing is Pine's default action. If you do not want to save any particular message, put the cursor on the Fcc line in the header and press ^K to omit the value. Pine will then not save that message. If you do not want Pine to save _any_ outgoing message (not a good idea, in my exerience), go into Setup (off the main menu) and Configuration. On the first screen set the default-fcc value to two double quotes (nothing in between them). Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 13:28:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09903; Fri, 2 Jun 95 13:28:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04743; Fri, 2 Jun 95 13:22:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04737; Fri, 2 Jun 95 13:22:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHdC4-00038HC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 13:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: miotto@ues6.cern.ch (Alessandro Miotto) Subject: pine for AIX 4.1 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 17:33:30 GMT Status: O X-Status: I have seen something about this thread some ten days ago. Recently I have been told that the directory /usr/ucb does not exist on AIX 4.1, so the c-client library should be recompiled with RSHPATH=/usr/bin/rsh On AIX 3.1 /usr/ucb/rsh is anyway a link to /usr/bin/rsh. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alessandro Miotto - CN/DCI/UES | Tel: +41 22 767 9576 CERN - European Laboratory | E-mail: Alessandro.Miotto@cern.ch for Particle Physics | CH-1211 Geneve 23 | -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alessandro Miotto - CN/DCI/UES | Tel: +41 22 767 9576 CERN - European Laboratory | E-mail: Alessandro.Miotto@cern.ch From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 13:51:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10919; Fri, 2 Jun 95 13:51:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06170; Fri, 2 Jun 95 13:42:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06164; Fri, 2 Jun 95 13:42:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHdW2-00038CC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 13:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simone@crash.cts.com (Simone Shoemaker) Subject: Re: Q: Pine 3.91 for Mac..does it exist? Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 17:26:27 GMT Message-Id: References: <1995May8.174149.12958@ludens> Status: O X-Status: David Weinrich (dweinr1@gl.umbc.edu) wrote: : In article <1995May8.174149.12958@ludens>, lovas@ludens.elte.hu (Gyorgy A. : Lovas) wrote: : >Dear Netters, : > : >I wander if Pine 3.91 has been ported to Mac platform at all. If so, I'd like : >to know if it is available for download and from which archive. : >Sorry if it is a FAQ, but I was unable to find any pointer. : > : >Any help or pointer is greatly appreciated. : >Thanks in advance : > George : > : >PS: This is my second trial; I hope this time someone responds I am using Pine 3.91 on my mac right now. So it definitely exists. But I don't know anything about software, so don't ask me whether it's good. I assume it's good, because I got it from a computer programmer who uses it on his Mac - with all the bangs and whistles. Simone From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 14:02:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11384; Fri, 2 Jun 95 14:02:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05443; Fri, 2 Jun 95 13:56:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05437; Fri, 2 Jun 95 13:56:00 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA22715; Fri, 2 Jun 95 22:53:51 +0200 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 22:53:51 +0200 (METDST) From: "Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD?=)" To: "Ben T. Feese" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: reading mail in PC, possible? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 2 Jun 1995, Ben T. Feese wrote: > PROBLEM IS...the Unix pine folder is READ-ONLY, so that although I can=20 > view the individual articles and can copy them (one-by-one) to a PC pine= =20 > folder, I cannot *delete* them from the Unix pine folder under PC pine,= =20 > nor can I do a MASS copy of the Unix folder to the Pc folder format. I think the select (;) command IS available in pcpine for Winsocks, but=20 you have to enable it by going to Setup/Config menu and setting the=20 enable-agregate-command or something like that (sorry, I am asleep and=20 don't eant to start a PC and MS Windows to check it). | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz Europe Home page: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-en.html Z=E1kladn=ED str=E1nka: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-cz.html Zakladni stranka: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-ce.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 14:40:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12795; Fri, 2 Jun 95 14:40:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06179; Fri, 2 Jun 95 14:32:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06173; Fri, 2 Jun 95 14:32:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHeHv-00038CC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 14:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Austin Adamson - IS Subject: Pine 3.91 on Wyse 50 terminals ? Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 09:29:17 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have compiled and installed Pine 3.91 on our system (Unix SVR4) and it seems to work great. The only problem that we've been having is the way Pine functions on some Wyse 50 terminals that we have. Pine does not repaint the screen correctly and none of the keys seem to work correctly. The arrow keys will not move around in the menus or do what they are supposed to do. Can anyone help or is this just a problem where Pine won't work with a Wyse 50 terminal? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Austin F. Adamson System/Network Administrator BYU Bookstore austina@bookstore.byu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 14:52:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13291; Fri, 2 Jun 95 14:52:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07558; Fri, 2 Jun 95 14:47:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07552; Fri, 2 Jun 95 14:47:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHeVZ-00038CC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 14:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbrown@delphi.umd.edu (Jeff Brown) Subject: Pine Configuration Question, ... Take 2... Date: 1 Jun 1995 18:57:03 GMT Message-Id: <3ql2hv$470@hecate.umd.edu> Status: O X-Status: I posted here about a month ago, and recived no response, I'd really like to be able to recomend pine as the mailer of choice for our faculty and staff, however there is still one problem that I need to solve. The only problem I am having is that some messages (recived by pine) are not showing the senders name from the folder. instead, they are listed as "to: USER", where USER is the recipient. Now, if someone has the enable-full-header-cmd of the feature-list configuration set up, then they can find out who sent the message. I have narrowed the problem down to old mailers, (I think) which use the "From" field in the header, but not the "From:" field. Is there any quick fix that will allow a user to see who a message was sent from without relying on trying to explain the command to our many users??? Thanks! -Jeff Brown (jbrown@physics.umd.edu) Assistant System Administrator Physics Department, University of Maryland. ps. I have also reported this as a bug, and I will forward any response I get from that to this group, for informative purposes. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 14:52:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13307; Fri, 2 Jun 95 14:52:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06520; Fri, 2 Jun 95 14:47:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06514; Fri, 2 Jun 95 14:47:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHeWF-00038HC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 14:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul Farmer Subject: pine for "interactive" unix Date: 1 Jun 1995 20:15:37 +0100 Message-Id: <802033739snz@pfarmer.demon.co.uk> Status: O X-Status: I'm wanting to run pine on one of my unix machines which is a 486 PC running sunsofts interactive unix (system V). The problem that I don't have a compiler for this machine and I'm therefore trying to track down an ftp site that I can obtain a precompiled binary file to run on this platform. I've looked on cac.washington.edu and can't find anything apart from the source code (little use without a compiler). Does anyone have any suggestions on where I can look !!! Many thanks. -- Paul Farmer From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 15:06:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13719; Fri, 2 Jun 95 15:06:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07873; Fri, 2 Jun 95 15:02:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07867; Fri, 2 Jun 95 15:02:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHekB-00038HC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 14:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: qq11@liverpool.ac.uk (Alan Thew) Subject: Re: Why can't I suppress headers? (second try) Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 19:33:04 GMT Status: O X-Status: According to Gerry Howser : >OK, here we go again. I am under a deadline to open up a PINE mail >server to some executive types. I have been madated that the only >headers that will appear on ANY email message from anywhere are DATE, TO, >FROM, and SUBJECT. I have been informed that this is the standard for >all email systems (????) and that I must comply. I have a lynix system Which mail systems? MS Mail? Many systems will offer a 'neat' view (4 or 5 headers) or a 'raw' (all) view and will allow switching between. I suspect they've seen VMSmail... I'd get some clarification. >that is running PINE 3.89 that shows only the four headers mentioned. Is >this a configuration option that I can turn on and off? Do I need to >hack the living daylights out of PINE? Pine 3.91 will show Reply-To headers by default, so this will be header number 5 for you :-( > >If you can help, I would appreciate it. I am running PINE 3.89 on a >U6000/550 from UNISYS that is a System V Release 4 machine. I am >beginning to suspect that my job rides on this one. > :-( -- Alan Thew alan.thew@liv.ac.uk ...!uknet!liv!alan.thew Tel: +44 151 794-4497 University of Liverpool, Computing Services Fax: +44 151 794-4442 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 15:34:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15057; Fri, 2 Jun 95 15:34:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07377; Fri, 2 Jun 95 15:27:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07371; Fri, 2 Jun 95 15:27:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHf7a-00038CC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 15:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch Control: cancel <173AC109B1S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> Subject: cmsg cancel <173AC109B1S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> Message-Id: <173B01459ES86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 21:09:43 GMT Status: O X-Status: message was canceled from NNR, FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 16:52:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18373; Fri, 2 Jun 95 16:52:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10418; Fri, 2 Jun 95 16:47:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10412; Fri, 2 Jun 95 16:47:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHgM7-00038HC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 16:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu (Supak Lailert) Subject: Re: You can't answer this Date: 25 May 1995 09:15:30 GMT Message-Id: <3q1hri$do8@gondor.sdsu.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: Roberto Allen (rallen@city.ba.k12.md.us) wrote: : You can't reply to me using the Reply feature in Pine, because if you : try, the message will get sent to rallen@city.ba.k12.md.us instead of : rallen@knight.city.ba.k12.md.us. (Try it!) Does anyone know where this : information : is stored? There's nothing like that in my pine.conf file. Should there : be a line like Reply-To-Host=knight.city.ba.k12.md.us? Is there : something like that in another file? We are a new site and are running : Pine 3.91. Start PINE, press S and then C to enter configuration screen. You'll now see a lot of configurable options, use arrow key to move down until you see option "customized-hdrs=" Press A to add value to it. You should add Reply-To: rallen@knight.city.ba.k12.md.us Another way that you might prefer is to set the value in option "user-domain". You can set it to "knight.city.ba.k12.md.us" and it will be used in From: line for all your outgoing mail. Hope this help. Supak -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Supak Lailert -- MBA (IS) Program, San Diego State University >> >> lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 17:05:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19332; Fri, 2 Jun 95 17:05:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09335; Fri, 2 Jun 95 17:02:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09329; Fri, 2 Jun 95 17:02:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHgdJ-00038HC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 17:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rneu@rneu.loc.gov Subject: Re: signature file before the reply text.. Date: 2 Jun 1995 17:35:00 GMT Message-Id: <3qni44$1a3l@rs7.loc.gov> References: <9505310249.AA04773@civeng.unsw.OZ.AU> Status: O X-Status: In <9505310249.AA04773@civeng.unsw.OZ.AU>, u2139409@civeng.unsw.OZ.AU (Allen Yen Chung Hsu) writes: > >Help, it seems that when i reply a message and want to include my signature file, it comes before the message i received, is there a way to put the signature file at the end of the email? > > > One fairly kludgy way to do it in a particular instance is to delete the .sig, write your reply however you like, and at the end use control-R to import .signature from your home directory. I liked it so much I made up a .sig.min with two shorter sig files to put there, and I'll just delete whichever I don't want. (That saves remembering one acronym. :->) >================================================================================ > >u2139409@civeng.unsw.oz.au > > >"Sportsmanship is winning as though you were used to it, and losing as though you enjoyed it for a change" > -Anon > >================================================================================ Great quote! R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life rneu@rneu.loc.gov or (better) rrne@loc.gov I speak for me. Only. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 18:11:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20945; Fri, 2 Jun 95 18:11:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11921; Fri, 2 Jun 95 18:07:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11915; Fri, 2 Jun 95 18:07:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHhbA-00038HC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 18:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Frank Stetzer Subject: Problems printing-to-attached-printers Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 11:12:36 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This is probably more a communications than a Pine problem ... Our users have a lot of problems printing to their attached printers. Typical symptoms are blocks of text missing in the printed message, or local system lock-up after a portion is printed. (This is Pine 3.91 running on Dec Alphas, OSF/1. Users are accessing via modem, hard-wired serial and network connections. Problems seem most severe for the modem users. A variety of communications packages are used; the problem occurs with Kermit for one.) Sometimes the problem can be traced to software vs. hardware handshaking between the user's micro and their modem, but not always. Does anyone have a grasp on this problem? Maybe the communications packages they are running? The speed or setup of their printer? ======================================================================== Frank Stetzer stetzer@csd.uwm.edu Statistical Software Coordinator P.O. Box 413 Information and Media Technologies Milwaukee, WI 53201 University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee (414)-229-4571 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 20:15:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23131; Fri, 2 Jun 95 20:15:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13444; Fri, 2 Jun 95 20:12:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13438; Fri, 2 Jun 95 20:12:01 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id XAA13296; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 23:12:00 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id XAA02704; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 23:11:59 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA21432; Fri, 2 Jun 95 23:10:36 EDT Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 23:10:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Mark Crispin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: export whole folder? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 2 Jun 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > > Here's the full story: > Wow! Thanks for the explanation. > > So, that's the issue. Input from the external user community on this is > solicited. Specifically: > Why do you want to use mbox format on DOS, given that Pine has a > read/write format that it can handle much better/faster/safer? > How do you anticipate using a read/write mbox driver? > The answers to these questions affect *how* a read/write mbox driver would > be implemented, given all the tradeoffs that have to be made. > I'm going to go out on a limb here as say that most users are looking for a functional capability of viewing their INBOXes off line and operating on the INBOXes as if attached to their UNIX server. They probably don't care what format they are in. I'll bet a neat feature would be to queue up message responses (replies, forwards, bounces) off-line and have them processed upon reconnecting to the UNIX server. CIS users wanted/got this feature from a number of products, including TAPCIS. That's my .02 dollars. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 2 20:20:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23217; Fri, 2 Jun 95 20:20:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11608; Fri, 2 Jun 95 20:18:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11602; Fri, 2 Jun 95 20:18:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHjhJ-00038HC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 20:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: export whole folder? Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 19:32:35 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 2 Jun 1995, Ben T. Feese wrote: > Actually the PC Pine documentation was where I originally found the > statement that Unix pine folders would only be available to PC pine in > "read only" format. I do not know why this is so, but it is *not* due to > the DOS "readonly" attribute being set. > > What I really need to know is what the difference is between the PC and > the Unix folder formats that creates this problem. There *WILL* be a read/write mbox driver on DOS in the future. The question is what form this will take. Here's the full story: The present mbox driver for DOS, bezrkdos, is a read-only driver. This is because of the nature of mbox format folders. In the mbox format, it may be necessary to rewrite a message with a "Status:" and "X-Status:" header line that is not present in the message. This, in turn means that you can not overwrite the folder in place without maintaining a separate copy of the subsequent messages. You can't just read the subsequent messages while you're updating the previous messages, because a previous message can grow and overwrite a subsequent message. To work around this problem, the UNIX mbox driver in Pine keeps all messages in memory. This is simultaneously boon and bane; it's a boon because searches are all in memory and thus *very* fast, bane because it makes some Pine memory images huge. Of course, there's no way you can do this on DOS with a 640K limit! Another way is to write to a separate copy of the file. Unfortunately, there is a requirement on many UNIX systems that the inode of the folder be preserved. So, you can't just write to a new copy and then rename the new copy to the old name. The upshot is that you would have to copy to the separate file, then copy back. A further problem with writing to a separate file is that a lot of our in-house users (the community that funds Pine development!) are at the limit of their disk quotas and do not have the free space available to permit a second temporary copy of their mail folders. What does this have to do with DOS? Well, the question becomes *why* do you want a folder in mbox format on DOS. Tenex format is used on DOS, and PC Pine handles tenex format much better than it could ever handle mbox format. There are two answers to this "why". One is that people just want to FTP their mbox format files to the PC and work with them on the PC. There's no need to worry about the UNIX inode or locking restrictions, and most PC users have plenty of disk space. This is true, and it wouldn't be too hard to make a read-write mbox driver on DOS for these guys. But on the other hand, it's even easier to use PC Pine to covert the mbox folders to tenex format on the PC, or use PC Pine to copy them from the UNIX system into tenex format using IMAP. The other one is that people who have NFS mounts from UNIX to their PC want to manipulate their UNIX folders from the PC over NFS (instead of over IMAP). This present several problems; all of the UNIX problems plus all of the DOS problems. How do we do the UNIX locks on DOS? How do we make sure the same inode is preserved? How do we avoid disk quota problems? Unfortunately, the NFS answer is the compelling reason for mbox format support in PC Pine at our site. We haven't figured out how to do this read/write while still being safe yet. We do *not* want to "just do it" and then have thousands of bug reports about crashed mail folders. We get enough of these when we're careful! ;-) So, that's the issue. Input from the external user community on this is solicited. Specifically: Why do you want to use mbox format on DOS, given that Pine has a read/write format that it can handle much better/faster/safer? How do you anticipate using a read/write mbox driver? The answers to these questions affect *how* a read/write mbox driver would be implemented, given all the tradeoffs that have to be made. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 3 02:20:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00611; Sat, 3 Jun 95 02:20:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17964; Sat, 3 Jun 95 02:13:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17958; Sat, 3 Jun 95 02:13:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHpDF-00038EC; Sat, 3 Jun 95 02:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: How can I cofig pcpine's remoete folder? Date: Sat, 3 Jun 95 03:26:45 CST Message-Id: <27960.anonymous@phrouter.phy.pku.edu.cn> Status: O X-Status: I can not use pc-pine to send email. Once I run it, it shows that 'can't open without remote folder'. I have tried many times to set up in-box path. However, it never works. Help, please. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 3 03:08:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01640; Sat, 3 Jun 95 03:08:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15636; Sat, 3 Jun 95 02:59:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15630; Sat, 3 Jun 95 02:59:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHptD-00038MC; Sat, 3 Jun 95 02:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Entering French Characters into Pine (Pico)???? Date: 3 Jun 1995 08:53:22 GMT Message-Id: <3qp7u3$9t3@news.ysu.edu> References: <3qkdi3$hus@gbc.gbrownc.on.ca> <3qabld$av7@gbc.gbrownc.on.ca> I was able to solve the problem of entering French characters by changing >the pico source code. There is a range of characters (including most of >the French characters) excluded from entry. I don't know why this range >was excluded so I just allowed the entry of these characters. If I recall (coming in late to this after a couple weeks off the computer), you were using a PC Alt-key numeric sequence to enter your character. The code you used was outside the range of ISO 8859-1 printable fer'n language characters, being something like Alt-135 (ISO 8859 printable, that is, non-control, characters, are in the range 160-255 decimal). So the character you were typing was not a Franch character as would be seen in the ISO 8859-1 character set, but more likely the character as appears in a DOS code page. What you really want to do is to set up an ISO 8859-1 emulation and use that to enter your characters, so they appear properly on the displays which people are likely to use. I had the same problem using Mac NCSA telnet when I failed to change the character translation from the Mac charset, where the German characters I was typing appeared in the ISO 8859-1 control character range, and I got the error from Pine, until I remembered and set ISO 8859-1 translation and then all went well. If your charset in your .pinerc is not ISO 8859-1 (that is, it is MACINTOSH or CP850 or something comparable), then your solution works, but be advised that the majority of displays capable of western European characters support ISO 8859-1, and Pine does no translation from the received charset to the display charset. -- Barry Bouwsma, Zürich, Switzerland: I Still Have No Life ___________________________http://www.sci.tamucc.edu/~pmichaud/toast/ In a blindfolded taste test, 4 of 5 newsreaders could not tell the difference between Spam and Velveeta... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 3 04:24:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03592; Sat, 3 Jun 95 04:24:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19622; Sat, 3 Jun 95 04:20:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19616; Sat, 3 Jun 95 04:20:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHrCb-00038LC; Sat, 3 Jun 95 04:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ZUBROVKA Subject: Downloading Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 06:05:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: HELP!!!!!! Alright, I converted my sent mail and saved msgs files to txt files. Now how do I download the things? I'm running a Mac if that makes a diference. Help will be appreciated. Regards, Zubrovka From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 3 04:44:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03896; Sat, 3 Jun 95 04:44:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16806; Sat, 3 Jun 95 04:40:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16800; Sat, 3 Jun 95 04:40:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHrRz-00038HC; Sat, 3 Jun 95 04:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tetsuo@grove.ufl.edu (Vinod Vijay Tandon) Subject: ?Possible to include addresses in mail? Date: 2 Jun 1995 06:44:23 GMT Message-Id: <3qmc07$d52@cutter.clas.ufl.edu> Status: O X-Status: Just wondering if there is any feature in Pine that would allow the user to pick and include an address in a mail message automatically. Im tired of having to write down addresses from my addressbook to include it to in a mail message to a friend who wants another friends address. (did you get that?) Anyway thanks -tetsuo ------ Vinod " If it aint broke, ill break it" Tandon tetsuo@grove.ufl.edu http://grove.ufl.edu/~tetsuo From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 3 06:46:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05951; Sat, 3 Jun 95 06:46:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17864; Sat, 3 Jun 95 06:42:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17858; Sat, 3 Jun 95 06:42:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHtH1-00038HC; Sat, 3 Jun 95 06:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cc56056@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chris Clayton ) Subject: Re: export whole folder? Date: 3 Jun 1995 11:50:41 GMT Message-Id: <3qpiah$a93@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <199506022134.AA06502@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Status: O X-Status: "Ben T. Feese" writes: [lots more snipping] >Second: regarding getting an error statement like >> [Can't connect to uxa.cso.uiuc.edu,143: Refused (10061)] >I have also gotten such an error statement from my PC pine back when I >was still trying to use it to access my mail server via a dialup >connection. Because I never could get anyone to tell me what the error >message meant (do the numbers "143" and "10061" have some significance to >the pine "insiders"???), I finally gave up and now use my PC pine only to >read pine folders that I have transferred by ftp from my dialup Unix pine >operation to my PC pine (for Windows/winsock) on my home computer. Well, gurus of the 'net, how 'bout it? Can anyone tell me what might be wrong? Is it something fixable? >You >didn't mention ftp; does that mean thatyou were somehow able to use your >home PC pine to transfer pine folders from your mail directory on the >remote unix machine? Yup, I would read mail in whatever folder on my remote Unix machine, and then "s"ave it to a folder on my local PC. It meant that I had to have it configured to recognize my INBOX, remote folder collections, AND local folder collections, but it worked rather nicely for my purposes until... (see above problem) Note: I had taken this to email, but since it ended back up here I figured I'd keep it here hoping someone might find a solution to my little problem. Chris -- -- "I am more than the sum of my email!" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 3 07:20:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06537; Sat, 3 Jun 95 07:20:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21609; Sat, 3 Jun 95 07:17:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21603; Sat, 3 Jun 95 07:17:17 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id KAA19963; Sat, 3 Jun 1995 10:17:09 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id KAA08893; Sat, 3 Jun 1995 10:17:07 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA21998; Sat, 3 Jun 95 10:15:44 EDT Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 10:15:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: cZUBROVKA Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Downloading In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 3 Jun 1995, ZUBROVKA wrote: > HELP!!!!!! > Alright, I converted my sent mail and saved msgs files to txt files. Now > how do I download the things? I'm running a Mac if that makes a diference. > Help will be appreciated. > Regards, > Zubrovka > > Here are a few possibilities that assume you are connected by a communications program using terminal emulation: - If your server has kermit, execute kermit and initialize a file transfer (send ), then invoke kermit receive on your Mac (somehow). - If your server has zmodem, type sz , and your Mac should automatically receive the file (using Zterm, for example) - Open a log filel on your Mac and cat the file on the Unix system with cat . Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 3 07:25:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06623; Sat, 3 Jun 95 07:25:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18266; Sat, 3 Jun 95 07:21:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18260; Sat, 3 Jun 95 07:21:58 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id KAA19999; Sat, 3 Jun 1995 10:21:55 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id KAA11889; Sat, 3 Jun 1995 10:21:54 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA22019; Sat, 3 Jun 95 10:20:31 EDT Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 10:20:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Vinod Vijay Tandon Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ?Possible to include addresses in mail? In-Reply-To: <3qmc07$d52@cutter.clas.ufl.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 2 Jun 1995, Vinod Vijay Tandon wrote: > > Just wondering if there is any feature in Pine that would allow > the user to pick and include an address in a mail message automatically. > Im tired of having to write down addresses from my addressbook to include > it to in a mail message to a friend who wants another friends address. > (did you get that?) I think so. I don't know of a direct way, but I've done this: position on cc: go to address book (^T) select the address you want delete it (^K) from the cc: line move to your message restore the line (^U) with the address I've also used that approach to pull an address from a message I was forwarding or replying to to add the address in the header. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 3 08:39:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07925; Sat, 3 Jun 95 08:39:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22603; Sat, 3 Jun 95 08:35:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22597; Sat, 3 Jun 95 08:35:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHv9q-00038HC; Sat, 3 Jun 95 08:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Automatic filing of messages Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 10:15:34 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 1 Jun 1995 andrew@rs.ucc.okstate.edu wrote: > If I want to file all messages from soandso@thus.and.so.net to some folder > (and have it done automatically), what do I need to do? You need to use mail filtering software to redirect mail into folders *before* Pine gets hold of it. Pine by itself cannot do what you want, but mail filters can (I use one). This is a frequent question on this group, so rather than repeat, email me if you are using Unix and I'll point you. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 3 10:00:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09694; Sat, 3 Jun 95 10:00:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19767; Sat, 3 Jun 95 09:56:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19760; Sat, 3 Jun 95 09:56:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHwQD-00038HC; Sat, 3 Jun 95 09:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ben T. Feese" Subject: Re: export whole folder? Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 10:48:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Thanks, Don Actually the PC Pine documentation was where I originally found the statement that Unix pine folders would only be available to PC pine in "read only" format. I do not know why this is so, but it is *not* due to the DOS "readonly" attribute being set. What I really need to know is what the difference is between the PC and the Unix folder formats that creates this problem. On Fri, 2 Jun 1995, Don Sugarman wrote: : Ben, : Your read-only attribute on the file when it gets to your PC *could* be : based on the ftp settings - e.g., 255.255.254.000 or whatever. (I don't : have enough experience to tell you what to do, but I have experienced the : problem, myself.) : If you can't get ftp to put it onto your PC in read/write mode, can't you : just give it write permissions with the DOS ATTRIB command? (I use : Qfiler for file management, so I'm not exactly sure about the DOS command : syntax.) : : Anyway, just some ideas to try. : Good luck, : Don Sugarman : sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com : From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 3 10:24:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10179; Sat, 3 Jun 95 10:24:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23976; Sat, 3 Jun 95 10:21:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23970; Sat, 3 Jun 95 10:21:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHwoj-00038HC; Sat, 3 Jun 95 10:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Chajecki Subject: Re: PC Pine/Novell Date: 25 May 1995 10:37:21 GMT Message-Id: <3q1ml1$m6u@macondo.dmu.ac.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Pete, pjh@mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg) wrote: >In trying to read INBOX, pc-pine/novell reports: > > [Can't connect to tecoma.mccc.edu, 143: refused(61)] > >What does this mean?? I have had a similar problem trying to set Pine for Windows up with access to our mail server. It turned out that our mail server was not running an imap or sntp server (imapd). PC pine uses the imap protocol and sntp and therefore requires the remote machine that you are trying to access supports both of these. John Chajecki Network Technician School of the Built Environment De Montfort University jac@dmu.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 3 10:34:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10392; Sat, 3 Jun 95 10:34:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24097; Sat, 3 Jun 95 10:31:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24091; Sat, 3 Jun 95 10:31:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHx00-00038RC; Sat, 3 Jun 95 10:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pyw100@curtiss.cac.psu.edu (Patrick Y. Wang) Subject: Jump to end of file? Date: 3 Jun 1995 02:32:59 GMT Message-Id: <3qohkr$jq8@hearst.cac.psu.edu> Status: O X-Status: I like pico, but is there a way to jump to the end of file and top of file really quickly? --- "Classical is to live for, metal is to live by." - E.Lee, 2 July 1995 --- Patrick Wang http://cac.psu.edu/~pyw100 State College, Pennsylvania Sysop of The Electronic Forest PatrickWang@psu.edu The Bell Atlantic Technology Grant From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 3 10:36:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10434; Sat, 3 Jun 95 10:36:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20109; Sat, 3 Jun 95 10:31:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20103; Sat, 3 Jun 95 10:31:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHwzD-00038MC; Sat, 3 Jun 95 10:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pyw100@curtiss.cac.psu.edu (Patrick Y. Wang) Subject: os/2 version? Date: 3 Jun 1995 02:31:10 GMT Message-Id: <3qohhe$jq8@hearst.cac.psu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Yeehaw, there isn't an OS/2 port of pico lying around, is there? --- "Classical is to live for, metal is to live by." - E.Lee, 2 July 1995 --- Patrick Wang http://cac.psu.edu/~pyw100 State College, Pennsylvania Sysop of The Electronic Forest PatrickWang@psu.edu The Bell Atlantic Technology Grant From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 3 11:00:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10900; Sat, 3 Jun 95 11:00:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20377; Sat, 3 Jun 95 10:56:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20371; Sat, 3 Jun 95 10:56:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sHxO9-00038HC; Sat, 3 Jun 95 10:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rklassen@access.mbnet.mb.ca (Richard P. Klassen) Subject: I need a diffenent usenet server - EMERGENCY Date: 3 Jun 1995 17:03:19 GMT Message-Id: <3qq4kn$nbv@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> Status: O X-Status: Right now my usenet site is the local university I log into. I need to be able to log into another universitys usenet site. Could someone be kind enough to give me the configuration to do this and another usenet location. I know it's probably a dumb question but i need help!! Thanks in advance Rick From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 3 12:57:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12939; Sat, 3 Jun 95 12:57:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21483; Sat, 3 Jun 95 12:53:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21477; Sat, 3 Jun 95 12:53:13 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id PAA24218; Sat, 3 Jun 1995 15:52:40 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA21973; Sat, 3 Jun 1995 15:52:39 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA23137; Sat, 3 Jun 95 15:51:14 EDT Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 15:51:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: "Patrick Y. Wang" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Jump to end of file? In-Reply-To: <3qohkr$jq8@hearst.cac.psu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 3 Jun 1995, Patrick Y. Wang wrote: > I like pico, but is there a way to jump to the end of file and top of file > really quickly? > Ctrl-Wv 'search' to bottom Ctrl-Ey 'search' to top In fact, once your enter ctrl-W, the message bar at the bottom will change to show Y for first line and V for last line. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 3 14:01:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14093; Sat, 3 Jun 95 14:01:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26619; Sat, 3 Jun 95 13:57:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26613; Sat, 3 Jun 95 13:57:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sI0CN-00038LC; Sat, 3 Jun 95 13:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ayrg60@nextvm2.corp.mot.com (Paul Ross) Subject: inbox readonly problem Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 17:20:47 GMT Status: O X-Status: Yesterday morning my inbox started being accessed as readonly???? why?? I am running pine 3.90 under Linux. Mailx works fine just not pine. HEEEELLLLPPPP!!!! -- Paul Ross ayrg60@nextvm2.corp.mot.com 602-441-2914 Have a nice day * * (Warning: This offer expires at midnight,some restrications and limitations may exist, not valid in all 50 states,void where prohibited by law, and is non-transferable) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 3 17:00:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17264; Sat, 3 Jun 95 17:00:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23933; Sat, 3 Jun 95 16:53:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23927; Sat, 3 Jun 95 16:53:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sI2vy-00038MC; Sat, 3 Jun 95 16:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ben T. Feese" Subject: Re: export whole folder? Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 20:44:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: References: <199506022134.AA06502@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199506022134.AA06502@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 2 Jun 1995, Chris Clayton wrote: > [snip snip snip snip snip snip] > I used a setup just like you...reading my mail at home and storing most > of it by Saving it from the Unix folder to my PC folder. It worked great, > until one day my server started refusing my PC-Pine's attempt to connect to > it. I get the message: > > [Can't connect to uxa.cso.uiuc.edu,143: Refused (10061)] > > I don't suppose you've ever seen anything like this before, have you? > I'd really like to get PC-Pine back up and running, but I've posted this > problem twice to the newsgroup without getting so much as a GUESS from anyone. > It's like no one even read my article! > > Well, if neither you nor anyone within earshot knows what this could > be, that's okay. I just thought I'd mention it... > > Thanks, and you're welcome. > Chris > > Chris: First: thanks re. the aggregate command enable option in the setup/config menu -- I "remembered" spotting it in the Unix pine option list just after my posting. Second: regarding getting an error statement like > [Can't connect to uxa.cso.uiuc.edu,143: Refused (10061)] I have also gotten such an error statement from my PC pine back when I was still trying to use it to access my mail server via a dialup connection. Because I never could get anyone to tell me what the error message meant (do the numbers "143" and "10061" have some significance to the pine "insiders"???), I finally gave up and now use my PC pine only to read pine folders that I have transferred by ftp from my dialup Unix pine operation to my PC pine (for Windows/winsock) on my home computer. You didn't mention ftp; does that mean thatyou were somehow able to use your home PC pine to transfer pine folders from your mail directory on the remote unix machine? Frankly, if it weren't for keeping my home phone lines tied up, I would much prefer using the dialup Unix pine setup --it is MUCH faster than the PC pine, and I love the way it blends mail and newsgroup browsing almost seamlessly. But I risk losing a perfectly wonderful wife if I don't relinquish these phone lines more frequently! Any suggestions from all the pine priests and priestesses out there? Ben ============================================================================= Ben T. Feese Professor of Biology Biochemistry/Molecular Biology Program Centre College, Danville, KY 40422 (USA) http://www.centre.edu Internet: feeseb@centre.edu Phone: (606) 238-5318 FAX: (606) 236-7925 ============================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 3 20:05:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20229; Sat, 3 Jun 95 20:05:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01005; Sat, 3 Jun 95 20:01:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00999; Sat, 3 Jun 95 20:01:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sI5u4-00038LC; Sat, 3 Jun 95 19:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Jump to end of file? Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 12:01:23 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3qohkr$jq8@hearst.cac.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3qohkr$jq8@hearst.cac.psu.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 3 Jun 1995, Patrick Y. Wang wrote: > I like pico, but is there a way to jump to the end of file and top of file > really quickly? Yes. In Pico (or in Pine when composing/editing), first press ^W for the Whereis command; then press ^Y to go to the top or ^V to go to the bottom. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 3 20:46:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20986; Sat, 3 Jun 95 20:46:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26015; Sat, 3 Jun 95 20:41:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26009; Sat, 3 Jun 95 20:41:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sI6We-00038QC; Sat, 3 Jun 95 20:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Setting MY SMTP SERVER TO Work with PC-PINE? Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 19:59:33 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 1 Jun 1995, H. Marc Kneppers wrote: > When I try to send mail I get an error "SMTP connection went away". > The system logs show that there was a connection, and it even creates a > directory in the /var/spool/smtpq area for the incoming connection but NO > DATA is transferred!! Here is something to try out. Connect to your SMTP server via TELNET, and give it an RSET command. If the connection closes, that is probably the problem. Also check the EHLO command, and make sure that your SMTP server doesn't close the connection on that. Recently, I have been made aware of the existance of broken SMTP servers which think that a "reset" (get to initial state, no message in progress) means "cancel the connection". There are also a few that think that the right way to indicate "unknown command" is to close the connection. Your best bet is to beat up whomever provided you with that broken SMTP server, and/or replace it with one that correctly implements RFC-821 (such as sendmail). The reason why Pine's SMTP client issues a RSET command is that it is capable of sending more than one message in a single SMTP session. This will be an important facility for offline operation, where you may have several messages composed offline and then want them to be delivered. RSET ensures that no remnants of the previous transaction affect this one. Your corporate president would be very upset if his message to his CFO discussing possible layoffs got distributed to the rank-and-file by accident. Or your girlfriend might be upset that her steamy letter to you got posted on the net.... There is no good way to patch this out without editing the sources and rebuilding, and even if you do you'll get hosed in the future when offline batching comes into being. It's better, if at all possible, to get your SMTP server fixed. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 3 21:07:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21388; Sat, 3 Jun 95 21:07:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01714; Sat, 3 Jun 95 21:02:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01708; Sat, 3 Jun 95 21:02:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sI6on-00038LC; Sat, 3 Jun 95 20:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Bad message-ids (was PINE, please don't generate headers) Date: 4 Jun 1995 03:34:32 GMT Message-Id: <3qr9k8$hpi@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3qg9at$1l0@zeus.cuci.nl> <3qieue$lbh@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> <3qj2hv$1h9@zeus.cuci.nl> <3qleqh$spn@tools.near.net> Status: O X-Status: I've found the discussion of Message-Id headers kind of interesting, because on all of our hosts running SunOS, AIX, ConvexOS, and HP-UX, the pice that Pine writes to the right of the @ is the fully-qualified domain name. I should mention that on these hosts, hostname(1) also produces a FQDN. However, on our Solaris hosts, Pine only places the machine name on the right side of the @, not a FQDN. Solaris's hostname(1) also returnns just the machine name. I am told that if we were to run NIS on the Solaris machines, the problem would fix itself (and have verified that that is the case) but that isn't an option. Is there a fix to this problem, besides running NIS or NIS+? We don't run NIS and likely never will (NIS just doesn't scale when you get into thirty thousand or more users) and I worry that we are producing Message-IDs on our Solaris machines that have the potential for being non-unique. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 3 21:18:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21611; Sat, 3 Jun 95 21:18:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26300; Sat, 3 Jun 95 21:13:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26292; Sat, 3 Jun 95 21:13:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sI6wC-00038LC; Sat, 3 Jun 95 21:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sgreen@esu9.esu9.k12.ne.us (Stan Greenfield) Subject: USAFA access Date: 4 Jun 1995 01:47:57 GMT Message-Id: <3qr3cd$qb9@news.nde.state.ne.us> Status: O X-Status: I am a future cadet at the United States Air Force Academy and would appreciate some help with establishing correspondence with Academy cadets. I am trying to do this so I can communicate with my parents next year while I'm at the Academy. I keep getting 'unknown host' and/or 'connection refused'. If anyone has any input, it would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance!!! Sam From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 3 21:56:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22302; Sat, 3 Jun 95 21:56:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02307; Sat, 3 Jun 95 21:52:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02301; Sat, 3 Jun 95 21:52:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sI7bN-00038LC; Sat, 3 Jun 95 21:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: karlsson@cloud9.net (Lukas Karlsson) Subject: Re: signature file before the reply text.. Date: 3 Jun 1995 17:43:11 GMT Message-Id: <3qq6vf$pta@news.cloud9.net> References: <9505310249.AA04773@civeng.unsw.OZ.AU> Status: O X-Status: Allen Yen Chung Hsu (u2139409@civeng.unsw.OZ.AU) wrote: > Help, it seems that when i reply a message and want to include my > signature file, it comes before the message i received, is there a way > to put the signature file at the end of the email? sure, just set the feature 'signature-at-bottom' in the pine configuration menu. one thig to remember though... this is put the signature at the bottom of messages when you 'reply' to them. when you 'forward' something to someone, the forwarded message will always go after the signature. - lukas -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lukas Karlsson karlsson@cloud9.net Cloud 9 Internet White Plains, New York From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 3 22:51:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23480; Sat, 3 Jun 95 22:51:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27230; Sat, 3 Jun 95 22:46:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27221; Sat, 3 Jun 95 22:46:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sI8TE-00038LC; Sat, 3 Jun 95 22:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Problem: Can't Write to Folders Date: 4 Jun 1995 03:44:24 GMT Message-Id: <3qra6o$hp4@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <1995Jun2.113538.23949@arl.mil> Status: O X-Status: In article <1995Jun2.113538.23949@arl.mil>, Morris Berman wrote: >I just returned from 2 weeks of vacation to find my Pine working >improperly. Somehow my "sent-mail" folder got marked as read-only and I >can't write anything to it. It gives a "[Can't open append folder: >Permission denied]" error when it tries to write it as the FCC folder and >also "[Can't open append folder: Permission denied]" error when I try to >copy a message into it. [Morris, your email address is degenerate and cannot be replied to. You should have your system administrator check into the reasons why, because it is considered bad netiquette to post without a replyable email address.] It strongly sounds as if all your files have changed ownership while you were away. You should have your system administrator check to be sure that the ownership hasn't changed. Why would this happen? Well, there are some buggy filesystems out there I've seen where ownership can change for no good reason. More likely, however, is an error on the part of your system administrator. When we make ownership mistakes, it's something we're likely to never notice until the user complains, since we almost always do such work as the superuser, who can touch files regardless of permission and ownership. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 3 22:57:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23572; Sat, 3 Jun 95 22:57:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03065; Sat, 3 Jun 95 22:52:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03059; Sat, 3 Jun 95 22:52:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sI8VB-00038OC; Sat, 3 Jun 95 22:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jasperc@access2.digex.net (Jasper Corrigan) Subject: Re: How can I get a "successful delivered" mail after sending? Date: 3 Jun 1995 03:09:57 -0400 Message-Id: <3qp1s5$het@access2.digex.net> References: <3phlqn$mfn@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Status: O X-Status: Now, to add a wrinkle, how about getting notification of a piece of mail being *read*? Can it be done in pine? Cheers, -- Jasper Corrigan, resident net philosopher jasperc@access.digex.net ============================================================================= "Never send a Monster to do the work of an Evil Scientist." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 3 23:42:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24404; Sat, 3 Jun 95 23:42:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27699; Sat, 3 Jun 95 23:36:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27693; Sat, 3 Jun 95 23:36:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sI9Fb-00038MC; Sat, 3 Jun 95 23:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andrew Douglas Inman Subject: WANTED: Kerberized POP that works w/ cclient stuff Date: 25 May 1995 04:26:25 GMT Message-Id: <3q10th$c8j@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Status: O X-Status: Has anyone out there found/written a Kerberized Pop server that works w/ the cclient libs and such that come w/ pine's imapd. The distribution comes w/ ipopd and I'm basically looking for a kerberized version. Any help would be appreciated. -- Andrew (ainman@umich.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 3 23:49:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24602; Sat, 3 Jun 95 23:49:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03713; Sat, 3 Jun 95 23:46:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03707; Sat, 3 Jun 95 23:46:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sI9R2-00038MC; Sat, 3 Jun 95 23:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kbilton@nyx10.cs.du.edu (kathy bilton) Subject: Sudden Margin Change Date: 3 Jun 1995 12:27:27 -0600 Message-Id: <3qq9if$g7q@nyx10.cs.du.edu> Status: O X-Status: The following message was written using Pine 3.89. In the midst of its being written, suddenly the right-hand margin became very wide. The same user has had the same problem in the past. Is there some key that she has hit inadvertently that would be causing this to happen? Or is there some other explanation? (The next time she logs in and sends mail - the margin returns to its normal width.) ........................................................................ The Conners arrived about midnight. The trip was uneventful. George delivered the boat to its new home in Alexandria. George went sailing with Scot this a.m. while Charlotte stayed at 360l. Mj went to her luncheon at the Genji restaurant in Falls Church. {This machine is doing that same thing again.} Now they are all ........................................................................ The message continued with this wide margin on the right side. --Kathy Bilton Kathy Bilton kathy@fred.net http://www.fred.net/kathy/ ......O`-o....... Appalachian Trail Home Page -- Kathy Bilton kbilton@nyx.cs.du.edu http://www.fred.net/kathy/ ........O`-o....................... Appalachian Trail Home Page: http://www.fred.net/kathy/at.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 00:02:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24838; Sun, 4 Jun 95 00:02:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03838; Sat, 3 Jun 95 23:58:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03832; Sat, 3 Jun 95 23:58:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sI9Zy-00038RC; Sat, 3 Jun 95 23:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: Re: Spanish Message-Id: References: Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 03:47:41 GMT Status: O X-Status: Abraham Gutman (gutmana@jupiter.sbf.com) decia: : Has anyone out there taken the source code for Pine and translated the : command labels into spanish? : Thanks, : Abraham looks like a nice project.... let me know if we can form a group to do it. Marcos Rubinstein Pucho@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 00:02:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24861; Sun, 4 Jun 95 00:02:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27895; Sat, 3 Jun 95 23:58:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27887; Sat, 3 Jun 95 23:58:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sI9Zg-00038MC; Sat, 3 Jun 95 23:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: Re: reading mail in PC, possible? Message-Id: References: Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 03:44:33 GMT Status: O X-Status: In the simtel archives there is a program called "readmail" that will allow you to read *and* manipulate pine folders without needing to convert them to pc ascii. It is not an offline mailer... reads mail but can not "send" mail. What I do, when can't have direct connection with my host... is to download (from a friend's machine) all my inbox... then read it and manipulate it with readmail, and if I need to write... I do use "pico" for pc... compose the mail... and then I upload and when in pine (unix) use the ^R (read file)... Clunky but effective. Waiting for the day that pine *is* an offline mailer :) Pucho From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 00:28:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25556; Sun, 4 Jun 95 00:28:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28165; Sun, 4 Jun 95 00:23:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28159; Sun, 4 Jun 95 00:23:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sI9vr-00038LC; Sun, 4 Jun 95 00:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Problems printing-to-attached-printers Date: 4 Jun 1995 05:02:09 GMT Message-Id: <3qreoh$bdf@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Frank Stetzer (stetzer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu) wrote: : This is probably more a communications than a Pine problem ... : Our users have a lot of problems printing to their attached : printers. Typical symptoms are blocks of text missing in : the printed message, or local system lock-up after a portion is : printed. : (This is Pine 3.91 running on Dec Alphas, OSF/1. Users : are accessing via modem, hard-wired serial and network : connections. Problems seem most severe for the modem : users. A variety of communications packages are used; : the problem occurs with Kermit for one.) : Sometimes the problem can be traced to software vs. hardware : handshaking between the user's micro and their modem, but not : always. : Does anyone have a grasp on this problem? Maybe the communications : packages they are running? The speed or setup of their printer? I'm not sure I have a grasp on the problem, nor the 'proper' way to fix it, but if I slow my modem down from its normal 19600 0r 14400 to 2400 or even 1200, the pine Y prYnt command works, otherwise is skips blocks as noted above. I'm sure there's a better way, and I've asked the same question myself several times, but the answer I get is 'it's a communications or handshake problem' but no solution, so my workaround to temporarily slow down the modem, may not be pretty, but it works. BYE. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 00:39:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25900; Sun, 4 Jun 95 00:39:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04327; Sun, 4 Jun 95 00:33:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04321; Sun, 4 Jun 95 00:33:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIA6Q-00038LC; Sun, 4 Jun 95 00:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Jaworski Subject: Adding CTRL-C to Q (exit) choices Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 02:02:46 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I use pine for most of my Usenet newsgroups but on occasion use another Unix system for some of them using the tin newsreader. I am used to pressing q to back up to the previous menu (article selection/group selection). Sometimes my hand forgets that I am using pine and I press q instead of i to go back to the articl selection menu. I am given a choice of 'saving mail in MAILBOX' (a local feature) or not. If I choose n for no I still get booted out of pine. What should happen is that there should be a CRTL-C option there compliant with the other pine menus to abort the quit. It's VERY frustrating when this happens, to have to re-enter pine, then go to the Usenet News folder, especially with newsgroups of considerable size (i.e. >100 new messages). What can be done about this? Is it a small feature to add whereby the local News admin. could just recompile their version of pine or would that be the responsibility of the authors of pine itself? Winnipeg MB Canada soo696@freenet.mb.ca TEAM OS/2 MIME OK Proud to be a non-hyphenated Polish Canadian! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 00:51:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26223; Sun, 4 Jun 95 00:51:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28415; Sun, 4 Jun 95 00:46:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28409; Sun, 4 Jun 95 00:46:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIAJ2-00038LC; Sun, 4 Jun 95 00:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: remote mail server Date: 4 Jun 1995 04:33:54 GMT Message-Id: <3qrd3i$k66@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3qidis$6sm@news.laser.net> Status: O X-Status: In article <3qidis$6sm@news.laser.net>, wrote: >I currently have 7 BSDI boxes. Is it possible to forward all mail to a new >(8th) machine >and have all my users get mail from that machine without logging into it? Yep. Not that hard. >I am using Pine 3.91 and BSDI v2.0 Good. That gives you two options, assumng you don't have users who are using other MUAs than Pine. >I want to avoid the following: > 1. users logging into the mail server. No problem. Are all your users using Pine? Then your easiest and best course by far is to run IMAP. What you do is your set your sendmail.cfs on all seven user machines so that they accept mail from anywhere and just send it on to the eighth machine. This is easy if you're handy with sendmail.cf files, but I'm not going to tell you how to do it because it would increase the length of this message by about 300%. Get O'Reilly's _Sendmail_ by Costales, Allman and Rickert if you need to learn how. The eighth machine needs to accept mail from any of the other machines as mail for local delivery. This, too, is a simple sendmail.cf hack. Make sure that usernames on the seven machines are all the same for the same people, and then put an /etc/passwd on the eighth machine containing all those mail users' usernames. Periodically grab their /etc/passwd and/or /etc/shadow entries so that the users' passwords are the same both on their login machine(s) and the mail server. Or, if you're running NIS, make the mail server part of your NIS domain with the proper privileges to be able to read the password map. Here's where the two options come in. If you're not running Pine exclusively, you'll need to export /var/spool/mail on the mail server to the other seven machines via NFS, and hard mount them on all the other machines' /var/spool/mail directories. Don't allow interrupts, and don't soft mount; if you do, you're asking for mailbox corruption. You didn't say whether the same user base exists on each of the seven login hosts. If you're not using NIS, make sure that the UID number for a given user is the same on all eight hosts; otherwise mailbox ownership over NFS will be corrupt. Even with non-interruptable hard mounts, NFS mounting of /var/spool/mail is still a dangerous thing. That's why, if you are exclusively using Pine, IMAP is a better option. Compile and install imapd on the mail server; make the necessary entries in /etc/services and /etc/inetd.conf. Place a link to the location in which you have installed imapd to /etc/rimapd. Then in the /etc/hosts.equiv file on the mail server, list all the other seven hosts. This is a possible security hole; make sure that you are comfortable with the security of the physical network on which the eight machines reside and with the security of the other seven hosts before you do this. Now, create a pine.conf.fixed file on each of the seven login hosts with the entry: inbox-path={mail.server.name}INBOX where you substitute the name of the mail server for mail.server.name above. Now, if everything worked correctly, your users will start Pine, read their email, and never realize that anything has changed (assuming you migrated your users' mailboxes to the mail server machine when you did all this). > 2. entering users into the new machine Do you mean without adding your users to the /etc/passwd of the mail server? Sorry; you'll have to do that. I can think of one or two ways to do it using obscure sendmail delivery options so that you don't have to have all users in /etc/passwd, but it isn't at all worth it, because sendmail's security is largely based on the sanctity of users and usernames. If you didn't, for instance, add to the mail server, how would sendmail know whether to accept or reject mail addressed to ? You see now why you must add all users to a machine in order to allow them to receive mail there. Of course, if you're using NIS, this can become easier (it sounds like you may have a small enough installation to where NIS wouldn't be a bad thing necessarily). > 3. letting the users know the machine is there. Again, I'm not sure what you mean with this. If you mean, "without making the users change things in their setups", then you've done that with the pine.conf.fixed file change above; they won't have to do anything. If, on the other hand, your intent is to not let them see the machine on the network--I think you're out of luck. That's not very important though, IMHO; usually users ignore machines that they don't know the purpose of, unless they have cracking in mind. If you want to *keep* users from being able to log into the mail server even if they try, you'll need to set their shell on the eighth machine to be something that doesn't allow login but that will allow /etc/rimapd to be run. You can write one yourself, but the Pine development group have a good one called imapsh, which I believe is on their FTP server at ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu. If it isn't, it should be. :) I can send it to you if you don't find it. Add it to /etc/shells, or users won't be able to run rsh on the machine, which is the point in the fake shell in the first place. :) Hope all this helps. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 01:14:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26899; Sun, 4 Jun 95 01:14:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28714; Sun, 4 Jun 95 01:09:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28708; Sun, 4 Jun 95 01:09:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIAgF-00038MC; Sun, 4 Jun 95 01:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fkwong@ainet.com (Frank K. Wong) Subject: How to Create New Header in PINE? Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 20:47:37 GMT Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to create a new header in PINE? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 01:14:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26913; Sun, 4 Jun 95 01:14:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04885; Sun, 4 Jun 95 01:09:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04879; Sun, 4 Jun 95 01:09:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIAft-00038LC; Sun, 4 Jun 95 01:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: Re: Return-Receipt-To: A word of caution Message-Id: References: <3ptr88$sh2@news.primenet.com> <3pua4q$qp6@clarknet.clark.net> Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 07:39:47 GMT Status: O X-Status: that's why when you ad the header Return-receipt: you leave it blank... and put your email address only when you want one. Pucho From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 01:28:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27141; Sun, 4 Jun 95 01:28:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05083; Sun, 4 Jun 95 01:24:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05077; Sun, 4 Jun 95 01:24:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIAtt-00038LC; Sun, 4 Jun 95 01:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Username Date: 4 Jun 1995 05:03:41 GMT Message-Id: <3qrerd$1dpf@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3qlbg6$mt4@mark.ucdavis.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <3qlbg6$mt4@mark.ucdavis.edu>, Thomas Olsen wrote: >On the machine where I read and respond to email, my username is simply >olsen. However, most of my mail is routed through a machine where I'm >known as tholsen. [...] When I try to reply [to mail addressed to >tholsen], Pine asks if I want to reply to everyone which means >user@host.domain.net and tholsen@ucdavis.edu. My question is how to I get >Pine to recognize that I am tholsen@ucdavis.edu? The answer with version 3.91 is that you don't. Yes, it's annoying, as I receive lots of email addressed to Trey@unc.edu, my shortest and easiest to remember address, but I read it at harris@email.unc.edu. I have to delete trey@unc.edu from headers a lot. I'm told that 3.92 will have an ability to do this. (I hope it will have some sort of wildcarding or other method to deal with multiple hosts in the same domain. Elm had a feature like you want without the wildcarding, which made it next to useless for me.) -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 02:23:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28473; Sun, 4 Jun 95 02:23:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29357; Sun, 4 Jun 95 02:17:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29351; Sun, 4 Jun 95 02:17:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIBkr-00038LC; Sun, 4 Jun 95 02:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ilya@espero.null.com (Ilya Ketris) Subject: Leaving 8th bit alone? Date: 3 Jun 1995 21:20:49 GMT Message-Id: <3qqjni$f34@recepsen.aa.msen.com> Status: O X-Status: Hi, I wonder if there is a way to prevent PINE from encoding characters [128-255] into base64 or "quoted printable". I just want to leave them as they appear. Thank you for your help. -- | Ilya Ketris | mailto:ilya@riga.lv | http://www.lvnet.lv | flames:/dev/null | G d- H-- s-: !g a- v+>-- U+++$ P++@ L+++ E-- W++(--) V--$ Y-- R+ f--- y?$ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 02:44:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28861; Sun, 4 Jun 95 02:44:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05993; Sun, 4 Jun 95 02:39:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05987; Sun, 4 Jun 95 02:39:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIC5Z-00038LC; Sun, 4 Jun 95 02:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: karlsson@cloud9.net (Lukas Karlsson) Subject: Re: Adding CTRL-C to Q (exit) choices Date: 4 Jun 1995 08:40:40 GMT Message-Id: <3qrri8$s0v@news.cloud9.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Jim Jaworski (soo696@freenet.mb.ca) wrote: > I use pine for most of my Usenet newsgroups but on occasion use > another Unix system for some of them using the tin newsreader. > I am used to pressing q to back up to the previous menu (article > selection/group selection). Sometimes my hand forgets that I am using > pine and I press q instead of i to go back to the articl selection menu. > I am given a choice of 'saving mail in MAILBOX' (a local feature) or > not. If I choose n for no I still get booted out of pine. What should > happen is that there should be a CRTL-C option there compliant with the > other pine menus to abort the quit. > It's VERY frustrating when this happens, to have to re-enter > pine, then go to the Usenet News folder, especially with newsgroups of > considerable size (i.e. >100 new messages). > What can be done about this? Is it a small feature to add > whereby the local News admin. could just recompile their version of pine > or would that be the responsibility of the authors of pine itself? actually, this would not make as much sense as it sounds (although i have been in the very same situation many times). if the option "quit-without-confirm" is set, then pine just quits when you type q. assuming that is already set, when you type q, pine knows it will be quitting. when it has a question for you, like should i move all the read messages into the default folder, it just wants to know tha answer to that question, and then it will go back to what it was doing. quitting. to get the type of functionality that you want, get rid of the "quit-without-confirm" option. this will then ask you everytime you try and quit, if you really want to quit. annoying, but sometimes, it is quite worth it. - lukas -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lukas Karlsson karlsson@cloud9.net Cloud 9 Internet White Plains, New York From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 02:46:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28909; Sun, 4 Jun 95 02:46:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29575; Sun, 4 Jun 95 02:42:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29569; Sun, 4 Jun 95 02:42:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIC6o-00038OC; Sun, 4 Jun 95 02:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: karlsson@cloud9.net (Lukas Karlsson) Subject: Re: inbox readonly problem Date: 3 Jun 1995 17:47:06 GMT Message-Id: <3qq76q$ptb@news.cloud9.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Paul Ross (ayrg60@nextvm2.corp.mot.com) wrote: > Yesterday morning my inbox started being accessed as readonly???? why?? > I am running pine 3.90 under Linux. Mailx works fine just not pine. > HEEEELLLLPPPP!!!! that tends to happen when you already have a pine session running, and you suspend it, and then try to start another one. the first session had control over the file, and then the second one tries to grab it unsuccessfully, and then neither session has the write access to it. to fix it, make sure that you have no other pine processes running when you start a new one. - lukas p.s. - i fixed this problem at my site by making 'pine' a shell script that checks to see if you are running pine already, it you are, it tells you, if you are not, it runs 'pine.real'. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lukas Karlsson karlsson@cloud9.net Cloud 9 Internet White Plains, New York From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 03:37:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00159; Sun, 4 Jun 95 03:37:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06565; Sun, 4 Jun 95 03:32:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06559; Sun, 4 Jun 95 03:32:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sICv6-00038QC; Sun, 4 Jun 95 03:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phl@cyways.com (Peter H. Lemieux) Subject: Why is my name in quotes? Date: 23 May 1995 02:21:48 GMT Message-Id: <3prgrt$8i5@sundog.tiac.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O X-Status: Whenever I use Pine, my name appears in quotation marks as "Peter H. Lemieux." I've tried setting the personal-name field and leaving it blank and get the same result. My entry in /etc/passwd doesn't have quotes either. Other people in my firm don't get this. Anybody know why? Thanks! Peter ----- Peter H. Lemieux, President cyways, inc. Voice: (800) 5-cyways 203 Arlington Street Foreign: +1 (617) 924-7991 Watertown, Massachusetts 02172-2036 USA Fax: +1 (617) 926-8440 Your source for total Internet solutions (tm) Home: http://www.cyways.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 05:51:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03080; Sun, 4 Jun 95 05:51:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08299; Sun, 4 Jun 95 05:46:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08293; Sun, 4 Jun 95 05:46:27 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id IAA02989; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 08:46:13 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id IAA25739; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 08:46:11 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA23986; Sun, 4 Jun 95 08:44:48 EDT Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 08:44:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: "Peter H. Lemieux" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Why is my name in quotes? In-Reply-To: <3prgrt$8i5@sundog.tiac.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 23 May 1995, Peter H. Lemieux wrote: > Whenever I use Pine, my name appears in quotation marks as "Peter H. > Lemieux." I've tried setting the personal-name field and leaving it > blank and get the same result. My entry in /etc/passwd doesn't have quotes > either. Other people in my firm don't get this. Anybody know why? > You have a period in your name, which is used by address parsers to delimit adress components. To avoid confusion, your name is quoted, so the periods will not be read as part of the address. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 06:59:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03982; Sun, 4 Jun 95 06:59:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02004; Sun, 4 Jun 95 06:54:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from perseus.peganet.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01998; Sun, 4 Jun 95 06:54:03 -0700 Received: from peg1-ts1.peganet.com (peg1-ts1.peganet.com [204.77.74.201]) by perseus.peganet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA25896; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 09:53:17 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 09:54:28 -0900 (PDT) From: "Ruben D. Salazar" To: Marcos Rubinstein Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Spanish X-Sender: Rsalazar@mail.peganet.com In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: Marcos, I'd like to help translating. Dejame saber. Ruben Dario 1=BE From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 07:28:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04355; Sun, 4 Jun 95 07:28:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09377; Sun, 4 Jun 95 07:24:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from netcom21.netcom.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09371; Sun, 4 Jun 95 07:24:22 -0700 Received: by netcom21.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA14694; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 07:23:16 -0700 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 07:23:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Marcos Rubinstein X-Sender: pucho@netcom21 To: "Ruben D. Salazar" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Spanish In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Precedence: first-class Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 4 Jun 1995, Ruben D. Salazar wrote: > Marcos, I'd like to help translating. Dejame saber. Ruben Dario >=20 >=20 > 1=BE >=20 OK... !!! Ya somos 2 :) let's see... quien mas? Marcos Rubinstein Pucho@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 07:41:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04566; Sun, 4 Jun 95 07:41:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02374; Sun, 4 Jun 95 07:38:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rocoto.aug.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02368; Sun, 4 Jun 95 07:37:58 -0700 Received: (from plardner@localhost) by rocoto.aug.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA04957; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 10:38:21 -0400 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 10:38:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Lardner To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: BitCom and Pine (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This is a repost of a msg sent two weeks ago to which there was no response. *************************************** Have any BitCom users experienced the "Expected Variable or Constant" message when attempting to move through a document line by line using the down arrow? The same phenomenon occurs when using Joe as the editor. Any ideas on how to fix this? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 10:02:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07081; Sun, 4 Jun 95 10:02:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11148; Sun, 4 Jun 95 09:58:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11142; Sun, 4 Jun 95 09:58:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIIuL-00038QC; Sun, 4 Jun 95 09:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: prin@browning.csranet.com (prin) Subject: [Need IMAP Help, Please!] Date: 4 Jun 1995 15:40:38 GMT Message-Id: <3qsk5m$3kl@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> Status: O X-Status: I have a Linux box running imapd connected to the internet via slip. Attached via ethernet, I have a win95 box running PC Pine. I have checked my imap daemon and it is IMAP2bis Service 7.8. I have checked my services file and have IMAP enabled on port 143. All connections to this port is refused even with the daemon running. I cannot telnet to the port and the win95 box always gets refused connection. Is there something else I need to configure on the Linux server? I am not yet even trying to get out over the internet, just get my server to service my PCPine on win95 box. I have checked the sendmail and it is ready but is running ESMTP. I don't think this is the problem since I haven't yet conneced using IMAP. -- ********************************************** * Charles Browning * Augusta, GA * * 706.855.9999 * * prin@browning.csranet.com * ********************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 11:27:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08576; Sun, 4 Jun 95 11:27:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12077; Sun, 4 Jun 95 11:16:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12071; Sun, 4 Jun 95 11:16:11 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id OAA05619; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 14:14:53 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id OAA23117; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 14:14:47 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA24510; Sun, 4 Jun 95 14:13:23 EDT Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 14:13:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Peter Lardner Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: BitCom and Pine (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I don't have the BitCom documentation, but I do know that if you logged in as a VT100, Pine and others are expecting OA for up, OB for down, OC right, and OD left. If that isn't what BitCom is sending, then your results could be bizare. To see what BitCom is sending, open a test file with vi (vi test.txt), then enter insert mode (i), type v followed by the up arrow. This will cause the literal value of the up arrow to be displayed. OA would be displayed as ^[OA. It this isn't what you get, check your BitCom manual to see if you can reprogram your arrow keys. Good luck. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.spf.ge.com P.S., you might also want to consider a more robust communications package. ;-) On Sun, 4 Jun 1995, Peter Lardner wrote: > > This is a repost of a msg sent two weeks ago to which there was no response. > > *************************************** > > Have any BitCom users experienced the "Expected Variable or Constant" > message when attempting to move through a document line by line using the > down arrow? The same phenomenon occurs when using Joe as the editor. > > Any ideas on how to fix this? > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 11:52:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08981; Sun, 4 Jun 95 11:52:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04587; Sun, 4 Jun 95 11:45:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04581; Sun, 4 Jun 95 11:45:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIKbj-00038QC; Sun, 4 Jun 95 11:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ADobkin@Emory.Edu (Alan S. Dobkin) Subject: Re: Q: Pine 3.91 for Mac..does it exist? Date: Sun, 04 Jun 1995 13:09:48 -0400 Message-Id: References: <1995May8.174149.12958@ludens> Status: O X-Status: In article , simone@crash.cts.com (Simone Shoemaker) wrote: > David Weinrich (dweinr1@gl.umbc.edu) wrote: > : In article <1995May8.174149.12958@ludens>, lovas@ludens.elte.hu (Gyorgy A. > : Lovas) wrote: > > : >Dear Netters, > : > > : >I wander if Pine 3.91 has been ported to Mac platform at all. If so, I'd > : >like to know if it is available for download and from which archive. > : >Sorry if it is a FAQ, but I was unable to find any pointer. > : > > : >Any help or pointer is greatly appreciated. > : >Thanks in advance > : > George > : > > : >PS: This is my second trial; I hope this time someone responds > > > I am using Pine 3.91 on my mac right now. So it definitely exists. But I > don't know anything about software, so don't ask me whether it's good. I > assume it's good, because I got it from a computer programmer who uses it > on his Mac - with all the bangs and whistles. > > Simone PINE has not been ported to the Macintosh, and it probably never will be. You may be using PINE in a terminal (Telnet) window from a UNIX host, but it is not running on your Macintosh, since it does not exist for Macintosh. However, several other good (some free) IMAP clients do exist for the Mac: Refer to : ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- DETAILED LISTING OF CLIENTS BY PLATFORM... Client MIME? Source/Vendor Status ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- {...other platform information deleted...} MACINTOSH Mail Drop 1.1 Yes Baylor U. Released MacMS No Stanford U. Obsolete Mailstrom 1.05 No Stanford U. Released, but buggy on some Macs Mailstrom 2.0x Yes Adam Treister In development? MMail Yes Atelier de Software Planned POPmail No UMinn Uses POP paradigm; deletes mail Simeon Yes Esys Released? Siren Mail Yes Siren Software Planned product TWG Pathways No Wollongong Released Zmail Yes NCD/Z-code IMAP support Planned /--------------------------------+---------------------+-----------------\ | Alan S. Dobkin, LAN Specialist | 1784 N. Decatur Rd. | E-Mail Address: | | Networked Workstation Support | Suite 225, Cube 11 | ADobkin | | ITD Network Systems, Emory U. | Atlanta, GA 30322 | @Emory.Edu | | | (404) 727-2766 | FAX #: 727-0817 | \--------------------------------+---------------------+-----------------/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 11:52:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09012; Sun, 4 Jun 95 11:52:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12415; Sun, 4 Jun 95 11:40:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12409; Sun, 4 Jun 95 11:40:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIKXV-00038UC; Sun, 4 Jun 95 11:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roberto Allen Subject: Re: You can't answer this Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 16:53:35 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Thanks to all who replied. Most people suggested making changes to my pine.rc file, which I'm sure would have worked. I was setting this up for the whole system as root, so I really needed to change the pine.conf file. The magic solution was: Add a line in pine.conf that reads: user-domain=knight.city.ba.k12.md.us Thanks to all who responded. --Roberto From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 12:12:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09411; Sun, 4 Jun 95 12:12:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12752; Sun, 4 Jun 95 12:07:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12746; Sun, 4 Jun 95 12:07:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIKtc-00038QC; Sun, 4 Jun 95 11:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: pine for AIX 4.1 Date: 4 Jun 1995 04:44:43 GMT Message-Id: <3qrdnr$1msh@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Alessandro Miotto wrote: > >I have seen something about this thread some ten days ago. >Recently I have been told that the directory /usr/ucb does not exist on >AIX 4.1, so the c-client library should be recompiled with > RSHPATH=/usr/bin/rsh How odd. On my AIX 4.1.2 box, /usr/ucb is alive and well. On my AIX 4.1.1 box, /usr/ucb also exists, but has only about a dozen files in it, all links elsewhere. Either this was a mistake in the distribution of AIX 4.1.1 which has now been fixed in AIX 4.1.2, or else it is because you have not done an "installp -o 'all_licensed'" off your distribution CD (something I haven't done on the 4.1.1 box but have on the 4.1.2 box). I recommend always doing the install of all licensed software on the CD, because factory installs of AIX often leave out some crucial stuff. >On AIX 3.1 /usr/ucb/rsh is anyway a link to /usr/bin/rsh. As on the 4.1.2 box. In any case, you shouldn't need to change the source code; you can make the link in /usr/ucb since that directory seems to exist on all the 4.1 boxes I have. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 16:34:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14175; Sun, 4 Jun 95 16:34:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07279; Sun, 4 Jun 95 16:30:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07273; Sun, 4 Jun 95 16:30:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIP1c-00038TC; Sun, 4 Jun 95 16:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jorge Paramo Subject: Re: Spanish Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 17:15:40 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 4 Jun 1995, Ruben D. Salazar wrote: > Marcos, I'd like to help translating. Dejame saber. Ruben Dario ^^^^^^^^^^ Wow!. After seeing that name, I am not sure if you will need any more help.. ;) -- If you guys need any more help w/ the translating; estoy a su disposicion. c.u, Jorge. _______________________________________________________________________________ "We are all novices. | Internet: paramoj@river.it.gvsu.edu (NeXT) Only the dead have | paramoj@erie.csis.gvsu.edu nothing left to learn." | GRAND VALLEY STATE UNIVERSITY "Procastination is like masturbation; you are only screwing yourself..." http://www.csis.gvsu.edu/~paramoj/ PGP Key From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 20:17:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17949; Sun, 4 Jun 95 20:17:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09334; Sun, 4 Jun 95 20:11:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09328; Sun, 4 Jun 95 20:11:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sISSW-00038RC; Sun, 4 Jun 95 20:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" Subject: Re: Any pattern-matching and filtering capability in Pine 3.91 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 06:48:02 -0400 Message-Id: References: <9505312224.AB18292@delta1.deltanet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: As the Pine docs say, filtering is left out - to be done by other programs, like procmail (which is a really great mail handler, BTW)! Zoli fekete@bc.edu (note my old full address @bcuxs2 is retired) "For my assured failures and derelictions, I ask pardon beforehand of my betters and my equals in my calling." - Rudyard Kipling From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 20:18:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17981; Sun, 4 Jun 95 20:18:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18627; Sun, 4 Jun 95 20:11:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18621; Sun, 4 Jun 95 20:11:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sISSE-00038OC; Sun, 4 Jun 95 20:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" Subject: Re: Snipping with Pine Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 06:42:21 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3q8q51$c3a@epx.cis.umn.edu> <3q9i3j$q39@gondor.sdsu.edu> <3qbk3b$h42@epx.cis.umn.edu> <3qbo8m$onm@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3qbo8m$onm@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 29 May 1995, Chris Clayton wrote: > >How does this work? I type ctrl-^, and nothing happens. I then press > >another key and a "[B" appears, the same as if I'd typed it in. Then if > >I type ctrl-K it only erases the line I'm currently on. What am I doing > >wrong? > > I have trouble with the ctrl-^ command whenever I log into my > Unix account from a Mac and use pine. I don't try to figure out what's > wrong any more...what's wrong with Mac's can't be fixed by me. I don't > know if this helps explain your problem or not...simply put, it could be a > terminal emulation problem It is a terminal emmulation problem (probably combined with the stupid control Mac playes over our keystrokes ;-(): on some Mac's here it doesn't work (some of those don't repeat keys held down either, incidentally), on most it does - and it's never a problem with PC terminal programs! For Ctrl-C etc. the Esc-Esc works, maybe it would for Ctrl-^ too ?! -- Zoli From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 20:57:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18742; Sun, 4 Jun 95 20:57:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19015; Sun, 4 Jun 95 20:46:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19009; Sun, 4 Jun 95 20:46:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIT3V-00038RC; Sun, 4 Jun 95 20:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Jump to end of file? Date: 4 Jun 1995 18:16:18 GMT Message-Id: <3qst9i$k9f@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3qohkr$jq8@hearst.cac.psu.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article , Don Sugarman wrote: >On 3 Jun 1995, Patrick Y. Wang wrote: >> I like pico, but is there a way to jump to the end of file and top of file >> really quickly? >Ctrl-Wv 'search' to bottom >Ctrl-Ey 'search' to top What? Your listing for going to the bottom is going to search for the next occurrance of the letter "v", and for bottom will place a lowercase 'y' at the end of the current line. The correct keys are control-w, control-v for going to the bottom, and control-w, control-y for going to the top. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 22:31:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20419; Sun, 4 Jun 95 22:31:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10676; Sun, 4 Jun 95 22:23:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10670; Sun, 4 Jun 95 22:23:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIUTc-00038OC; Sun, 4 Jun 95 22:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lparke3@vms1.gmu.edu Subject: GETTING MARRIED? 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From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 22:42:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20652; Sun, 4 Jun 95 22:42:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10863; Sun, 4 Jun 95 22:38:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10856; Sun, 4 Jun 95 22:38:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIUjf-00038RC; Sun, 4 Jun 95 22:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Setting MY SMTP SERVER TO Work with PC-PINE? Date: 4 Jun 1995 04:56:10 GMT Message-Id: <3qreda$173a@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Coenraad Bakker wrote: >[...] I can connect fine to my UNIX IMAP server from a PC and >read my mail on the UNIX server. However, when I want to send a message, >it cannot find the SMTP server. There seem to be confusing instructions >about whether it requires an SMTP server. One place it says that it will >use sendmail as a default, another place it says that PC-Pine requires >SMTP. It may be confusing, but it is nonetheless correct. sendmail is a mail transport agent which runs on Unix hosts, not PCs. On Unix, Pine will by default hand email to sendmail for delivery, unless you set smtp-server so that Pine will attempt to make the SMTP network connection itself. PCs, having no sendmail to which PC-Pine can hand email, must use the smtp-server method only. >The latter appears to be the case because if I leave "smtp-server" >blank in the config file, it keeps asking for the SMTP server. When I >specify the same server to which I connect to read the mail, it cannot >connect. That UNIX system has been used for years with pine for regular >login users. It may be that the UNIX server is not propoerly set up as an >SMTP server even though there is an entry in /etc/services. However, I >have a hard time finding information about how to set it up as an SMTP >server. Anyone can help me with this? Sounds like the IMAP server is not running sendmail in daemon (SMTP) mode. Can you telnet to port 25 on your mail server? If you can, and get some version blurb, then something is wrong with your Pine setup, because the framework is there for this to work. If on the other hand you get a "port unavailable", "service unavailable", or "connection reset by peer" message, then your IMAP server is not running the daemon to listen to the SMTP port. Are you your this machine's administrator? If not, you should contact her; most likely she will tell you of another machine which you should use as an smtp server instead (assuming you're connected to the Internet, you *must* be running smtp *somewhere*). If you are this machine's administrator, then find out where in the /etc/rc* scripts sendmail gets started, and make sure that the "-bd" (begin daemon) flag is present. If it isn't, the smtp daemon isn't being properly spawned. If it is, then something is killing your sendmail daemon process. You may want to run a periodic script via cron to make sure that all daemons, including sendmail, are running normally. Hope this helps. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 22:43:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20693; Sun, 4 Jun 95 22:43:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20492; Sun, 4 Jun 95 22:38:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20485; Sun, 4 Jun 95 22:38:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIUi5-00038OC; Sun, 4 Jun 95 22:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Downloading Date: 4 Jun 1995 04:53:00 GMT Message-Id: <3qre7c$bdf@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: ZUBROVKA (Agdesign@cris.com) wrote: : Alright, I converted my sent mail and saved msgs files to txt files. Now : how do I download the things? I'm running a Mac if that makes a diference. : Help will be appreciated. Not sure what you mean by you 'converted them to text files'. The pine command is E to (E)xport, which will put a named file in your home directory, then quit pine, and download it the same way you would download anything else ... only my guess, sounds like maybe your tryin to download it while you're in pine ?? Hope this helps, if not, restate your question. BYE. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 22:44:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20731; Sun, 4 Jun 95 22:44:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20578; Sun, 4 Jun 95 22:41:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20572; Sun, 4 Jun 95 22:41:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIUqb-00038TC; Sun, 4 Jun 95 22:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: How can I get a "successful delivered" mail after sending? Date: 4 Jun 1995 05:16:39 GMT Message-Id: <3qrfjn$vvt@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3phlqn$mfn@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> <3qp1s5$het@access2.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: In article <3qp1s5$het@access2.digex.net>, Jasper Corrigan wrote: >Now, to add a wrinkle, how about getting notification of a piece of mail >being *read*? Can it be done in pine? No. It can't be done in any current Internet-standard mail delivery/reading scheme. How it would be done is a good question. Usually, the reason giving for wanting to know this information is to know whether someone is ignoring you or just not reading their email. This is fine, but suppose they see your name and delete your message without reading it? Should you get notification? How about if the recipient reads mail offline? Should you be notified when the mail is downloaded, even if the recipient may not have read the mail? Notified the next time mail is downloaded, assuming that he reads his mail at least once in between each download? Or some other method? There are a heck of a lot of issues here that can be solved with complicated proprientary email solutions (I'm aware that several vendors have implemented this feature), but not with Internet mail. Internet mail is essentially just files being transferred from one place to another; having no central authority, no peer-to-peer verification, and no standard-issue client means that you have to assume lowest common denominator. And receipt-on-read is an awfully complex feature to model to the lowest common denominator. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 4 23:30:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21533; Sun, 4 Jun 95 23:30:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11308; Sun, 4 Jun 95 23:24:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11302; Sun, 4 Jun 95 23:24:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIVXx-00038OC; Sun, 4 Jun 95 23:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: [Need IMAP Help, Please!] Date: 4 Jun 1995 21:30:34 GMT Message-Id: <3qt8lq$hro@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3qsk5m$3kl@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <3qsk5m$3kl@hobbes.cc.uga.edu>, prin wrote: >I have a Linux box running imapd connected to the internet via slip. >Attached via ethernet, I have a win95 box running PC Pine. I have >checked my imap daemon and it is IMAP2bis Service 7.8. > >I have checked my services file and have IMAP enabled on port 143. All >connections to this port is refused even with the daemon running. I >cannot telnet to the port and the win95 box always gets refused >connection. Is there something else I need to configure on the Linux server? I'm not sure what you mean when you say "even with the daemon running". Have you added the line imap stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/etc/imapd imapd To your /etc/inetd.conf? Imapd does not handle multiple connections itself and must be started using the Inet superdaemon. If you have a line somewhere in an rc file which actually runs imapd, you should remove it; it isn't needed. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 00:15:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22573; Mon, 5 Jun 95 00:15:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21724; Mon, 5 Jun 95 00:09:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21718; Mon, 5 Jun 95 00:09:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIW99-00038lC; Mon, 5 Jun 95 00:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gabrielle@norden1.com (Gabrielle) Subject: Followup-to:? Reply-to? Date: 5 Jun 1995 02:33:45 GMT Message-Id: <3qtqe9$6mv@news1.channel1.com> Status: O X-Status: I would appreciate some help! I will be crossposting a group proposal to several newsgroups, but I need all the traffic the posts generate to go to ONE newsgroup. How do I do this? I have read all the PINE manuals I can find, but I only saw reference to Reply-to: which doesn't seem appropriate. Is there a Followup-to: header command? Thanks in advance! Debbie \||/ gabrielle@norden1.com @@ "The Internet is For (\/) THE BIRDS!!!" ( ) \ / Visit Debbie, her Teddy Bears /||\ and her Parrots at her / "" \ HomePage! ~~~~~~ http://www.rhein.de/t-b/users/debbie.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 00:41:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23149; Mon, 5 Jun 95 00:41:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12078; Mon, 5 Jun 95 00:37:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12072; Mon, 5 Jun 95 00:37:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIWaH-00038UC; Mon, 5 Jun 95 00:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lparke3@vms1.gmu.edu Control: cancel <1995Jun4.224831@vms1.gmu.edu> Subject: cmsg cancel <1995Jun4.224831@vms1.gmu.edu> Date: 05 Jun 1995 05:29:19 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: This spam has been cancelled. An explanation of this action has been posted to news.admin.net-abuse.misc. Please read that message if you have any questions. Feel free to contact me at the Reply-To address if you have any further questions. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 00:49:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23307; Mon, 5 Jun 95 00:49:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22182; Mon, 5 Jun 95 00:43:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22176; Mon, 5 Jun 95 00:43:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIWfs-00038RC; Mon, 5 Jun 95 00:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Will IMSP handle .newsrc's? Date: 5 Jun 1995 05:31:49 GMT Message-Id: <3qu4s5$uln@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: I just reread Myers draft on IMSP, and I can't find whether or not it will support .newsrc's. This isn't explicitly spelled out, but I suppose that it can be handled as a configuration variable like any other. Has anyone (particularly in the Pine development team) considered this issue? How will .newsrc files be handled over IMSP? -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 04:58:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29569; Mon, 5 Jun 95 04:58:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25517; Mon, 5 Jun 95 04:52:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25511; Mon, 5 Jun 95 04:52:13 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id HAA17850; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 07:52:11 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id HAA20695; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 07:52:09 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA25716; Mon, 5 Jun 95 07:49:50 EDT Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 07:49:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Trey Harris Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Jump to end of file? In-Reply-To: <3qst9i$k9f@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 4 Jun 1995, Trey Harris wrote: > In article , > Don Sugarman wrote: > >On 3 Jun 1995, Patrick Y. Wang wrote: > > >> I like pico, but is there a way to jump to the end of file and top of file > >> really quickly? > > >Ctrl-Wv 'search' to bottom > >Ctrl-Ey 'search' to top > > What? Your listing for going to the bottom is going to search for the > next occurrance of the letter "v", and for bottom will place a lowercase > 'y' at the end of the current line. > > The correct keys are control-w, control-v for going to the bottom, and > control-w, control-y for going to the top. OOPS! Of course, you are absoluetly right. When you do it automatically, you don't even realize you haven't taken you finger off the control key. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 05:16:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00143; Mon, 5 Jun 95 05:16:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15057; Mon, 5 Jun 95 05:10:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15051; Mon, 5 Jun 95 05:10:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIatg-00038UC; Mon, 5 Jun 95 05:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" Subject: Re: Followup-to:? Reply-to? Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 06:12:55 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3qtqe9$6mv@news1.channel1.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3qtqe9$6mv@news1.channel1.com> Status: O X-Status: You've got to Setup/Config and add: customized-hdrs = Followup-to: - then you'll get that field when composing the post! Zoli fekete@bc.edu (note my old full address @bcuxs2 is retired) "For my assured failures and derelictions, I ask pardon beforehand of my betters and my equals in my calling." - Rudyard Kipling From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 06:32:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01725; Mon, 5 Jun 95 06:32:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26632; Mon, 5 Jun 95 06:25:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26626; Mon, 5 Jun 95 06:25:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIc3t-00038XC; Mon, 5 Jun 95 06:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) Subject: RFD: comp.mail.user-agent.*, comp.mail.transfer-agent.* Message-Id: <950602.234520.1D0.rnr.w164w@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 23:45:20 -0600 References: <3pvukn$lso@clarknet.clark.net> <3q0lu2$ec@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Status: O X-Status: note followups brad@his.com (Brad Knowles) writes: > I'm beginning to think I should push to have comp.mail.* reorganized into > comp.mail.mta.* and comp.mail.mua.* > Thoughts? fine by me -- but instead using the names I gave above. the whole point would be to _decrease_ in-the-wrong-group traffic, not increase it! -- Russell Schulz russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca ersys!rschulz Shad 86c From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 06:56:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02129; Mon, 5 Jun 95 06:56:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16021; Mon, 5 Jun 95 06:48:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16015; Mon, 5 Jun 95 06:48:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIcRW-00038cC; Mon, 5 Jun 95 06:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: daniel@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN.actcom.co.il (Daniel Baum) Subject: Pine with remote server Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 17:57:15 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I am having no success whatsoever using Pine to read remote mail on a server to which i am connected via SLIP. As far as I know I have followed all the instructions, but always get "connection refused" Does anybody know the correct incantation to get it working? Daniel Baum danbaum@shani.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 09:56:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09382; Mon, 5 Jun 95 09:56:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00658; Mon, 5 Jun 95 09:47:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00652; Mon, 5 Jun 95 09:47:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIfCq-00038QC; Mon, 5 Jun 95 09:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Pollak Subject: Re: Any pattern-matching and filtering capability in Pine 3.91 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 03:51:02 -0400 Message-Id: References: <9505312224.AB18292@delta1.deltanet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: > On Wed, 31 May 1995, LervA wrote: > > > In article <3q4ndi$1fp@latte.eng.umd.edu> you wrote: > > : I'm a new user of Pine (only started using it this month), and would like > > : to know if Pine has any utilities for redirecting mail to specific > > : folders based on their subject or their sender. > > : If Pine lacks such utilities, are there others that can do the same > > : thing? If the only thing that will do the job is the utility "filter", > > : examples of rules files would be greatly appreciated. > > > > : Scott It's true, there is no filtering in Pine. However, if you mark "enable-aggregate-commands" in the config file, you can sort things out pretty fast with the following sequence of commands: ; -- enables aggregate command t -- mark by Text a -- search All text (sometimes the mailing list name is only in the CC) s -- Save foldername -- folder you want to save it in x -- eXpunge. Removes the files. You can then repeat the process if you have several mailing lists to deal with. In the end, which comes pretty quick, you've got all your personal mail in front of you, and all the mailing list mail in the appropriate folders. Personally I found this simpler and more fool proof than Procmail for mailing lists that generated under fifty letters a day. Hope this helps, Michael __________________________________________________________________________ Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 11:09:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12796; Mon, 5 Jun 95 11:09:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21107; Mon, 5 Jun 95 11:02:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21101; Mon, 5 Jun 95 11:02:22 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10807; Mon, 5 Jun 95 11:02:03 -0700 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 11:01:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Chris Clayton , "Ben T. Feese" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: export whole folder? In-Reply-To: <3qpiah$a93@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Chris, Ben, et al: Errors of the form "Can't connect to [port] 143: Refused" almost always mean the mail server is not running an IMAP daemon. -teg On 3 Jun 1995, Chris Clayton wrote: > "Ben T. Feese" writes: > > [lots more snipping] > > >Second: regarding getting an error statement like > >> [Can't connect to uxa.cso.uiuc.edu,143: Refused (10061)] > > >I have also gotten such an error statement from my PC pine back when I > >was still trying to use it to access my mail server via a dialup > >connection. Because I never could get anyone to tell me what the error > >message meant (do the numbers "143" and "10061" have some significance to > >the pine "insiders"???), I finally gave up and now use my PC pine only to > >read pine folders that I have transferred by ftp from my dialup Unix pine > >operation to my PC pine (for Windows/winsock) on my home computer. > > Well, gurus of the 'net, how 'bout it? Can anyone tell me what might > be wrong? Is it something fixable? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 11:14:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13065; Mon, 5 Jun 95 11:14:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02784; Mon, 5 Jun 95 11:09:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02778; Mon, 5 Jun 95 11:09:38 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10982; Mon, 5 Jun 95 11:09:29 -0700 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 11:09:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Dave Wood Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Error with INBOX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Suggestions: o Upgrade to 3.91 o Start by renaming your inbox file (e.g. /usr/spool/mail/drwood) to something else, so a new inbox will be created for subsequent incoming messages. o Look at the damaged file with an editor and see how it differs from a valid mailbox... Look for extra newlines at the beginning of the file, for example. Or a message with a null in it. None of that gets to the root cause of the problem, but it might give you a start. -teg On Fri, 2 Jun 1995, Dave Wood wrote: > When i start up my PINE 3.89 program on my Linux system, it says: > Folder format invalidated (consult an expert) aborted. After that it says: > No folder opened. Once it says that, it will allow me to compose > messages, and open all the saved mail folders, except for the INBOX. This > is really annoying. It happened on June 1st, right after the program > prompted me to move all sent-mail to May-sent-mail. If ya need any more > information I would be happy to oblige. Thank you in advance for any help > you can give me. > > Dave > > > *********************************************************************** > * _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ * > * _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ * > * _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ * > * _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ * > * _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ * > *********************************************************************** > * << SigmaRho @ IRC >> << E-Mail: drwood@cici.com >> * > * << Home Page @ http://www.cici.com/~drwood/home.html >> * > *********************************************************************** > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 11:42:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14337; Mon, 5 Jun 95 11:42:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03430; Mon, 5 Jun 95 11:33:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03424; Mon, 5 Jun 95 11:33:32 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15143; Mon, 5 Jun 95 11:33:27 -0700 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 11:33:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: "Ben T. Feese" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to get OrdrdSort by Date *Sent* In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I think it will work like that in 3.92. There are still some problems because not all Date lines have enough information in them to easily tell which timezone they came from. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Fri, 2 Jun 1995, Ben T. Feese wrote: > On my Pine 3.91, under the OrderdSort option, all messages with a given > title are sub-ordered according to the date of *arrival*. This OrdrdSort > ffeature is supposed to produced a "thread-like" display of newsgroup > postings. But responding articles often arrive here AFTER the > originating post, resulting in a jumbled order. Can anyone suggest how > to get an OrderedSort based 1st on Subject, then on Date *SENT* ?? > > TIA > > ============================================================================= > Ben T. Feese > Professor of Biology Biochemistry/Molecular Biology Program > Centre College, Danville, KY 40422 (USA) http://www.centre.edu > Internet: feeseb@centre.edu Phone: (606) 238-5318 FAX: (606) 236-7925 > ============================================================================= > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 11:52:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14917; Mon, 5 Jun 95 11:52:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03656; Mon, 5 Jun 95 11:43:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03650; Mon, 5 Jun 95 11:42:59 -0700 Received: from UW-Gateway.Panda.COM by Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (NX5.67e/UW-NDC Revision: 2.27.MRC ) id AA16476; Mon, 5 Jun 95 11:42:53 -0700 Received: from localhost by Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM (NX5.67e/UW-NDC/Panda Revision: 2.27.MRC ) id AA11015; Mon, 5 Jun 95 11:42:47 -0700 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 11:41:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Crispin Subject: re: Bad message-ids (was PINE, please don't generate headers) To: Trey Harris Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <3qr9k8$hpi@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 4 Jun 1995 03:34:32 GMT, Trey Harris wrote: > I've found the discussion of Message-Id headers kind of interesting, > because on all of our hosts running SunOS, AIX, ConvexOS, and HP-UX, the > pice that Pine writes to the right of the @ is the fully-qualified domain > name. I should mention that on these hosts, hostname(1) also produces a > FQDN. > > However, on our Solaris hosts, Pine only places the machine name on the > right side of the @, not a FQDN. Solaris's hostname(1) also returnns > just the machine name. Edit the /etc/hosts on the Solaris machine so that the FQDN for the local machine appears first. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot FAX: (206) 842-0758 ICBM: N 47.36'24" W 122.34'08" TOPS-20: A Great Improvement Over Its Successors From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 12:00:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15234; Mon, 5 Jun 95 12:00:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22101; Mon, 5 Jun 95 11:48:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22095; Mon, 5 Jun 95 11:48:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIh59-00038TC; Mon, 5 Jun 95 11:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hd-fxsts@pine.liii.com (Bruce Schuck) Subject: Need UnixWare port Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 18:13:42 GMT Status: O X-Status: If you folks could please point me in the right direction. The standard source package does not have a port for Novell's Unixware. If someone could please point me towhere I might find it. Or perhaps tell me which of the ports should I try to compile similar to. Many thanks in advance. -- Bruce P. Schuck President/CEO Asgard Systems, Inc. bruce@aps.org hd-fxsts@liii.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 12:19:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16221; Mon, 5 Jun 95 12:19:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04197; Mon, 5 Jun 95 12:08:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from anubis.oit.unc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04191; Mon, 5 Jun 95 12:08:10 -0700 Received: (from harris@localhost) by anubis.oit.unc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) id PAA22042; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 15:00:17 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 15:00:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Trey Harris X-Sender: harris@anubis.oit.unc.edu To: Mark Crispin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: re: Bad message-ids (was PINE, please don't generate headers) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > On 4 Jun 1995 03:34:32 GMT, Trey Harris wrote: > > I've found the discussion of Message-Id headers kind of interesting, > > because on all of our hosts running SunOS, AIX, ConvexOS, and HP-UX, the > > pice that Pine writes to the right of the @ is the fully-qualified domain > > name. I should mention that on these hosts, hostname(1) also produces a > > FQDN. > > > > However, on our Solaris hosts, Pine only places the machine name on the > > right side of the @, not a FQDN. Solaris's hostname(1) also returnns > > just the machine name. > > Edit the /etc/hosts on the Solaris machine so that the FQDN for the local > machine appears first. At least a dozen people have emailed me with that. But I've always put FQDNs first in /etc/hosts; I regard it a security hole to do otherwise. What else could be causing this? Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 12:42:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17075; Mon, 5 Jun 95 12:42:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04854; Mon, 5 Jun 95 12:35:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04846; Mon, 5 Jun 95 12:35:53 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12397; Mon, 5 Jun 95 12:35:39 -0700 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 12:35:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Jeff Brown Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Configuration Question, ... Take 2... In-Reply-To: <3ql2hv$470@hecate.umd.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Jeff, There almost certainly is a bug/mis-configuration --but I don't think the bug is in Pine. The missing "From: " header is the key. This is necessary, and if missing, the cause of the missing header should be discovered and eliminated. (The "From " line is a local-mailbox-format-specific message separator, and has nothing to do with RFC-822 headers.) Often sendmail is configured to make sure there is a valid From: header when an MUA does not provide one, but not all sendmails have been so configured. (That's one of the reasons Pine does create its own From: headers.) -teg On 1 Jun 1995, Jeff Brown wrote: > I posted here about a month ago, and recived no response, I'd > really like to be able to recomend pine as the mailer of choice for our > faculty and staff, however there is still one problem that I need to > solve. > > The only problem I am having is that some messages (recived by > pine) are not showing the senders name from the folder. instead, they > are listed as "to: USER", where USER is the recipient. > > Now, if someone has the enable-full-header-cmd of the > feature-list configuration set up, then they can find out who sent the > message. > > I have narrowed the problem down to old mailers, (I think) which > use the "From" field in the header, but not the "From:" field. Is there > any quick fix that will allow a user to see who a message was sent from > without relying on trying to explain the command to our many users??? > > Thanks! > > -Jeff Brown (jbrown@physics.umd.edu) > Assistant System Administrator > Physics Department, University of Maryland. > > ps. I have also reported this as a bug, and I will forward any > response I get from that to this group, for informative purposes. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 13:01:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17931; Mon, 5 Jun 95 13:01:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05264; Mon, 5 Jun 95 12:53:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05258; Mon, 5 Jun 95 12:53:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIi86-00038HC; Mon, 5 Jun 95 12:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: Sco Pine? Date: 5 Jun 1995 16:01:29 -0300 Message-Id: <65901.gkerr@katydid.on.ca> Status: O X-Status: I'm looking for an edition of pine that will work on Sco Unix. Could someone please e-mail me with information on how to obtain said version? Thanks a lot. ___ Ian Kerr Katydid Information Systems, Inc. gkerr@katydid.on.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 13:03:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18125; Mon, 5 Jun 95 13:03:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05338; Mon, 5 Jun 95 12:57:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from delphi.umd.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05332; Mon, 5 Jun 95 12:57:36 -0700 Received: by delphi.umd.edu (5.57/Ultrix4.2) id AA26051; Mon, 5 Jun 95 16:03:03 -0400 From: jbrown@delphi.umd.edu (Jeff Brown) Message-Id: <9506052003.AA26051@delphi.umd.edu> To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, becnel@crl.com Subject: Re: Pine Configuration Question, ... Take 2... In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 05 Jun 95 12:35:37 PDT." Date: Mon, 05 Jun 95 16:03:02 -0400 Status: O X-Status: > Jeff, > There almost certainly is a bug/mis-configuration --but I don't think > the bug is in Pine. The missing "From: " header is the key. This is > necessary, and if missing, the cause of the missing header should be > discovered and eliminated. (The "From " line is a > local-mailbox-format-specific message separator, and has nothing to do > with RFC-822 headers.) > > Often sendmail is configured to make sure there is a valid From: header > when an MUA does not provide one, but not all sendmails have been so > configured. (That's one of the reasons Pine does create its own From: > headers.) > > -teg Thanks for the response Terry! I'll look into it. If this turns out to be the problem, I'll let you know. -Jeff Brown (jbrown@physics.umd.edu) Assistant System Administrator Physics Department, University of Maryland. ps. I posted a copy of your letter (slightly modified) as a followup to the orriginal post (which was almost identicle to the letter I sent you guys.), again, thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 13:19:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19344; Mon, 5 Jun 95 13:19:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24045; Mon, 5 Jun 95 13:11:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24039; Mon, 5 Jun 95 13:11:24 -0700 Received: from UW-Gateway.Panda.COM by Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (NX5.67e/UW-NDC Revision: 2.27.MRC ) id AA16553; Mon, 5 Jun 95 13:11:18 -0700 Received: from localhost by Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM (NX5.67e/UW-NDC/Panda Revision: 2.27.MRC ) id AA11286; Mon, 5 Jun 95 13:11:12 -0700 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 13:07:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Crispin Subject: re: Bad message-ids (was PINE, please don't generate headers) To: Trey Harris Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 5 Jun 1995 15:00:17 -0400 (EDT), Trey Harris wrote: > At least a dozen people have emailed me with that. But I've always put > FQDNs first in /etc/hosts; I regard it a security hole to do otherwise. > > What else could be causing this? Hmm, you've got me. I think it may be time to ask SUN what could cause Solaris to return anything other than the official host name in the h_name member of the returned hostent struct from gethostbyname(). h_name *is* documented to be the official name. If /etc/hosts isn't lying, is there any chance that you might have NIS/YP or some other such thing running without knowing about it? e.g. a rump YP that is "switched off" but still responds to the local host name? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 14:34:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23263; Mon, 5 Jun 95 14:34:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25720; Mon, 5 Jun 95 14:29:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25708; Mon, 5 Jun 95 14:29:16 -0700 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA19026; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 14:29:12 -0700 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 14:29:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: 3.89 and news To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Pardon my forgetfullness, but is 3.89 supposed to be able to WRITE news, as well as read it? I can't remember if it was introduced BEFORE or AFTER 3.89 thanks, B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/---------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 14:41:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23547; Mon, 5 Jun 95 14:41:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25797; Mon, 5 Jun 95 14:34:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25791; Mon, 5 Jun 95 14:34:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIjiq-00038HC; Mon, 5 Jun 95 14:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Otmar Stahl Subject: pine and "userdb" in sendmail 8.6.12 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 14:14:52 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, I recently set up sendmail 8.6.12 on HP-UX. My idea was to use the "userdb" feature to replace my unix login name with first_name.last_name for outgoing mail using the "mailname" entry in the sendmail user data base. This in fact works with mailx and elm, but unfortunately not with pine, my favourite mailer. In outgoing mail, the unix login name takes preference over the entry in the user data base, although pine is set up to use sendmail. Since elm uses the sendmail user data base, it looks like a set-up problem with pine. Any hints? With kind regards, Otmar Stahl _______________________________________________________________________________ Otmar Stahl e-mail: O.Stahl@lsw.uni-heidelberg.de Landessternwarte Koenigstuhl Tel.: +49 6221 509 231 69117 Heidelberg URL: http://www.lsw.uni-heidelberg.de/~ostahl/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 15:05:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24887; Mon, 5 Jun 95 15:05:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08606; Mon, 5 Jun 95 14:59:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08600; Mon, 5 Jun 95 14:59:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIk2q-00038HC; Mon, 5 Jun 95 14:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hal9001@panix.com (Robert A. Rosenberg) Subject: Re: Bad message-ids (was PINE, please don't generate headers) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 95 06:21:55 GMT Message-Id: References: <3qg9at$1l0@zeus.cuci.nl> <3qieue$lbh@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> <3qj2hv$1h9@zeus.cuci.nl> <3qleqh$spn@tools.near.net> <3qr9k8$hpi@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: In Article <3qr9k8$hpi@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) wrote: > >I've found the discussion of Message-Id headers kind of interesting, >because on all of our hosts running SunOS, AIX, ConvexOS, and HP-UX, the >pice that Pine writes to the right of the @ is the fully-qualified domain >name. I should mention that on these hosts, hostname(1) also produces a >FQDN. > >However, on our Solaris hosts, Pine only places the machine name on the >right side of the @, not a FQDN. Solaris's hostname(1) also returnns >just the machine name. > >I am told that if we were to run NIS on the Solaris machines, the problem >would fix itself (and have verified that that is the case) but that isn't >an option. > >Is there a fix to this problem, besides running NIS or NIS+? We don't >run NIS and likely never will (NIS just doesn't scale when you get into >thirty thousand or more users) and I worry that we are producing >Message-IDs on our Solaris machines that have the potential for being >non-unique. Off the top of my head, I'd expect that if there were a call that returned the FQDN, using it [in lieu of the call to hostname(1)] in the code that builds the right hand side would fix your problem if you made this replacement in the Pine code prior to compiling it . From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 16:08:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27989; Mon, 5 Jun 95 16:08:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27890; Mon, 5 Jun 95 16:04:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27884; Mon, 5 Jun 95 16:04:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIl52-00038TC; Mon, 5 Jun 95 15:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: is there a FAQ on pine? Date: 23 May 1995 15:34:36 GMT Message-Id: <3psvac$a78@grape.epix.net> References: <3pr3o9$s06@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> Status: O X-Status: Larry Chang (lzhang@uoguelph.ca) wrote: : is there a FAQ on pine? : Thanks. : Larry. try this; not only the faq, but all sortsa' good stuff on pine ... http://www.cac.washington.edu:1180/pine/ hope this helps BYE John (aka DearOldDad) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 16:12:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28173; Mon, 5 Jun 95 16:12:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10467; Mon, 5 Jun 95 16:09:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10461; Mon, 5 Jun 95 16:09:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIlCq-00038HC; Mon, 5 Jun 95 16:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbrown@delphi.umd.edu (Jeff Brown) Subject: Re: Pine Configuration Question, ... Take 2... Date: 5 Jun 1995 19:45:12 GMT Message-Id: <3qvms8$rlo@hecate.umd.edu> References: <3ql2hv$470@hecate.umd.edu> Status: O X-Status: Jeff Brown (jbrown@delphi.umd.edu) wrote: : [ snip ] : ps. I have also reported this as a bug, and I will forward any : response I get from that to this group, for informative purposes. The following Mail was sent to me about the missing From: Return-Path: gray@cac.washington.edu Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 12:35:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Jeff Brown Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Configuration Question, ... Take 2... Jeff, There almost certainly is a bug/mis-configuration --but I don't think the bug is in Pine. The missing "From: " header is the key. This is necessary, and if missing, the cause of the missing header should be discovered and eliminated. (The "From " line is a local-mailbox-format-specific message separator, and has nothing to do with RFC-822 headers.) Often sendmail is configured to make sure there is a valid From: header when an MUA does not provide one, but not all sendmails have been so configured. (That's one of the reasons Pine does create its own From: headers.) -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 19:19:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05342; Mon, 5 Jun 95 19:19:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01247; Mon, 5 Jun 95 19:15:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01241; Mon, 5 Jun 95 19:15:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIo4g-00038TC; Mon, 5 Jun 95 19:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: manson@ecf.toronto.edu (Bob Manson) Subject: Re: Problems printing-to-attached-printers Message-Id: References: <3qreoh$bdf@grape.epix.net> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 21:11:08 GMT Status: O X-Status: Do you have the "preserve-start-stop-characters" set in the SETUP CONFIGURATION menu? Just a thought. bob From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 19:32:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05567; Mon, 5 Jun 95 19:32:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14435; Mon, 5 Jun 95 19:30:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14429; Mon, 5 Jun 95 19:30:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIoIS-00038VC; Mon, 5 Jun 95 19:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "H. Marc Kneppers" Subject: Re: Setting MY SMTP SERVER TO Work with PC-PINE? Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 11:26:29 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 2 Jun 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > On Thu, 1 Jun 1995, H. Marc Kneppers wrote: > > When I try to send mail I get an error "SMTP connection went away". > > The system logs show that there was a connection, and it even creates a > > directory in the /var/spool/smtpq area for the incoming connection but NO > > DATA is transferred!! > > Here is something to try out. > > Connect to your SMTP server via TELNET, and give it an RSET command. If > the connection closes, that is probably the problem. Also check the EHLO > command, and make sure that your SMTP server doesn't close the connection > on that. Bingo! That is exactly it. The server does not recognize the EHLO command - but it keeps the connection alive. The RSET command on the other hand causes the server to drop the connection immediately. > Recently, I have been made aware of the existance of broken SMTP servers > which think that a "reset" (get to initial state, no message in progress) > means "cancel the connection". There are also a few that think that the > right way to indicate "unknown command" is to close the connection. > Your best bet is to beat up whomever provided you with that broken SMTP > server, and/or replace it with one that correctly implements RFC-821 (such > as sendmail). (...) I've recently acquired and built sendmail 8.6.12 (the version that came with the machine is something stupid like 4.1 or something) so I think that I will install it as soon as possible. The smtp daemon that we were using seems to be the vendor's one....that gives me a good excuse to beat up their software people (as you suggested ;) Thanks for the help - I can finally move forward with this project! > DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ by the way: Seatle? Why? (I'm canadian, don't forget) Marc Kneppers kneppers@acs.ucalgary.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 20:03:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06299; Mon, 5 Jun 95 20:03:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14832; Mon, 5 Jun 95 19:57:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.crl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14826; Mon, 5 Jun 95 19:57:48 -0700 Received: from crl5.crl.com by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA12744 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Mon, 5 Jun 1995 19:56:02 -0700 Received: by crl5.crl.com id AA01405 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Mon, 5 Jun 1995 19:56:08 -0700 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 19:56:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Becnel To: Jeff Brown Cc: Terry Gray , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Configuration Question, ... Take 2... In-Reply-To: <9506052003.AA26051@delphi.umd.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, Jeff Brown wrote: Thanks for letting me know about this. > Date: Mon, 05 Jun 95 16:03:02 -0400 > From: Jeff Brown > To: Terry Gray > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, becnel@crl.com > Subject: Re: Pine Configuration Question, ... Take 2... > > > > Jeff, > > There almost certainly is a bug/mis-configuration --but I don't think > > the bug is in Pine. The missing "From: " header is the key. This is > > necessary, and if missing, the cause of the missing header should be > > discovered and eliminated. (The "From " line is a > > local-mailbox-format-specific message separator, and has nothing to do > > with RFC-822 headers.) > > > > Often sendmail is configured to make sure there is a valid From: header > > when an MUA does not provide one, but not all sendmails have been so > > configured. (That's one of the reasons Pine does create its own From: > > headers.) > > > > -teg > > Thanks for the response Terry! I'll look into it. If this > turns out to be the problem, I'll let you know. > > -Jeff Brown (jbrown@physics.umd.edu) > Assistant System Administrator > Physics Department, University of Maryland. > > ps. I posted a copy of your letter (slightly modified) as a > followup to the orriginal post (which was almost identicle to the > letter I sent you guys.), again, thanks. > > > ************************************************************************ Robert G. Becnel Email becnel@crl.com WWW http://www.crl.com/~becnel ************************************************************************ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 22:29:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09342; Mon, 5 Jun 95 22:29:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03471; Mon, 5 Jun 95 22:26:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03465; Mon, 5 Jun 95 22:26:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIr4M-00038VC; Mon, 5 Jun 95 22:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: a2246341@athena.rrz.uni-koeln.de (Alina Bartsch) Subject: Restricted Pico ? Date: 5 Jun 1995 12:15:10 GMT Message-Id: <3qusge$5hk@news.rrz.uni-koeln.de> Status: O X-Status: I will use the eitor pico in a application. I will that the user cannot change the filename (is an parameter) an not use the file browser. Could I define this in the environment or as parameters? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 22:36:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09481; Mon, 5 Jun 95 22:36:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16928; Mon, 5 Jun 95 22:31:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16922; Mon, 5 Jun 95 22:31:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIr81-00038XC; Mon, 5 Jun 95 22:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: teale@acs.ucalgary.ca (Debbie Teale) Subject: standalone pico and default directory Date: 5 Jun 1995 15:01:07 -0600 Message-Id: <3qvraj$3prd@acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca> Status: O X-Status: It seems that pico on our AIX system wants to always write a file (if no path is specified) to the home directory, e.g. cd .elm pico filter-rules acs3:/acs3d/teale/.elm--> pico filter-rules xxx ^X Save modified buffer (ANSWERING "No" WILL DESTROY CHANGES) ? Yes File Name to write : filter-rules acs3:/acs3d/teale/.elm--> ls ../filter-rules ../filter-rules Is this a problem with our installation, a bug or a feature? -- Deborah Teale, UCS, MS736, 220-4467 E-mail: teale@acs.ucalgary.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 23:11:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10083; Mon, 5 Jun 95 23:11:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03873; Mon, 5 Jun 95 23:06:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03867; Mon, 5 Jun 95 23:06:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIrbi-00038UC; Mon, 5 Jun 95 22:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cc56056@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chris Clayton ) Subject: Re: Pine with remote server Date: 6 Jun 1995 05:54:50 GMT Message-Id: <3r0qja$6u7@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <3r0jaq$dch@news.csus.edu> Status: O X-Status: sac26400@saclink1.csus.edu (S L. Barber) writes: >Daniel Baum (daniel@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN.actcom.co.il) wrote: >: I am having no success whatsoever using Pine to read remote mail on a server >: to which i am connected via SLIP. >: As far as I know I have followed all the instructions, but always get >: "connection refused" >: Does anybody know the correct incantation to get it working? >I am also having the same problem. Please let me know if you receive and >answer. I think maybe there is some variable that needs to be set. Well, if you are getting a message like this: [Can't connect to uxa.cso.uiuc.edu,143: Refused (10061)] Which is what I get, then I'll pass on to you and everyone else what I've been told (sorry, I don't have the gentleperson's name handy). This is probably stemming from the absence of an IMAP daemon on the server you are connecting to. If so, there's no variable or checkbox that will fix it. Only the sysadmin can. - Chris -- -- "I am more than the sum of my email!" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 23:44:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10713; Mon, 5 Jun 95 23:44:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17790; Mon, 5 Jun 95 23:41:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17784; Mon, 5 Jun 95 23:41:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIsBf-00038UC; Mon, 5 Jun 95 23:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry) Subject: Re: Bad message-ids (was PINE, please don't generate headers) Date: 5 Jun 1995 18:22:24 -0400 Message-Id: <3r0030$84f@ocean.CAM.ORG> References: <3qg9at$1l0@zeus.cuci.nl> <3qieue$lbh@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> <3qj2hv$1h9@zeus.cuci.nl> <3qleqh$spn@tools.near.net> <3qr9k8$hpi@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: hal9001@panix.com (Robert A. Rosenberg) writes: >>I've found the discussion of Message-Id headers kind of interesting, >>because on all of our hosts running SunOS, AIX, ConvexOS, and HP-UX, the >>pice that Pine writes to the right of the @ is the fully-qualified domain >>name. I should mention that on these hosts, hostname(1) also produces a >>FQDN. >> >>However, on our Solaris hosts, Pine only places the machine name on the >>right side of the @, not a FQDN. Solaris's hostname(1) also returnns >>just the machine name. I'm the one who originally complained that FQDN's aren't generated under Solaris, but I must retract my complaint after realizing it's not PINE's fault. PINE uses a perfectly valid way of obtaining the local host's FQDN. But the code doesn't work under Solaris 2.3 (library bugs). It does under 2.4 >>Is there a fix to this problem, besides running NIS or NIS+? We don't >>run NIS and likely never will (NIS just doesn't scale when you get into >>thirty thousand or more users) and I worry that we are producing >>Message-IDs on our Solaris machines that have the potential for being >>non-unique. Upgrade to 2.4 :-) -Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 5 23:59:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11082; Mon, 5 Jun 95 23:59:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04276; Mon, 5 Jun 95 23:41:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04270; Mon, 5 Jun 95 23:41:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIsCr-00038VC; Mon, 5 Jun 95 23:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry) Subject: Re: pine and "userdb" in sendmail 8.6.12 Date: 5 Jun 1995 18:27:54 -0400 Message-Id: <3r00da$8f2@ocean.CAM.ORG> References: Status: O X-Status: Otmar Stahl writes: >I recently set up sendmail 8.6.12 on HP-UX. My idea was to use the >"userdb" feature to replace my unix login name with first_name.last_name >for outgoing mail using the "mailname" entry in the sendmail user data >base. This in fact works with mailx and elm, but unfortunately not with >pine, my favourite mailer. In outgoing mail, the unix login name takes >preference over the entry in the user data base, although pine is set up >to use sendmail. Since elm uses the sendmail user data base, it looks like >a set-up problem with pine. It's because PINE generates a From: header while the other MUA's don't. This is exactly why I think it shouldn't. That's why I used the following patches to prevent it from doing so. It's not a perfect solution, but it suited our needs very well. Users can still change the from address if ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM is defined, but it cannot be done through the personal-name field. Note that modifications were made to osdep/os-sv4.c. You'll have to instead make them to whatever osdep/*.c is apropriate for you. --- 1.1 1994/11/24 02:44:24 +++ osdep/os-sv4.c 1995/05/30 19:45:32 @@ -1708,7 +1710,6 @@ Fork off mailer process and pipe the message into it Called to post news via Inews when NNTP is unavailable -BUG, this needs to be filled in ----*/ char * post_handoff(header, body, errbuf) @@ -1716,8 +1717,62 @@ BODY *body; char *errbuf; { - sprintf(errbuf, "Can't post, NNTP-server must be defined!"); - return(errbuf); + char news_cmd[MAXPATH+1]; + char *tmpfile; + PIPE_S *syspipe; + + dprint(1, (debugfile, "=== calling inews ===\n")); + *errbuf = '\0'; + +/* + if(!header->env->to && !header->env->cc && !header->env->bcc) + return(NULL); */ /* nobody to send to, fail silently */ + + if(can_access(INEWS, EXECUTE_ACCESS) != 0){ + sprintf(errbuf, "Mail Transport Agent %s %s", + INEWS, + (can_access(INEWS, ACCESS_EXISTS) != 0) + ? "doesn't exist" + : "isn't executable"); + return(errbuf); + } + + if((tmpfile = temp_nam(NULL, "pinepost")) + && append_message2(tmpfile, header, body) >= 0){ + + sprintf(news_cmd, "( ( %s %s ; /bin/rm -f %s ) < %s & )", + INEWS, INEWSFLAGS, tmpfile, tmpfile); + + dprint(6, (debugfile, "Send command \"%s\"\n", news_cmd)); + + if(syspipe = open_system_pipe(news_cmd, NULL, PIPE_SYS|PIPE_PROT)){ + close_system_pipe(&syspipe, PIPE_SYS|PIPE_PROT); + } + else + sprintf(errbuf, "Internal error: %s", error_description(errno)); + } + else + sprintf(errbuf, "Can't write temp file for sending: %s", + error_description(errno)); + + if(!*errbuf){ + dprint(1, (debugfile, "Post SUCCESSFUL.\nTo: %s@%s\n", + (header->env->to && header->env->to->mailbox) + ? header->env->to->mailbox : "NULL", + (header->env->to && header->env->to->host) + ? header->env->to->host : "NULL")); + dprint(1, (debugfile, "Subject: %s\nMessage ID: %s\n\n", + header->env->subject ? header->env->subject : "NULL", + header->env->message_id ? header->env->message_id:"NULL")); + } + else + dprint(1,(debugfile, "** POST FAILED **\n\terror: %s\n\ttmpfile: %s\n\n", + errbuf, tmpfile ? tmpfile : "")); + + if(tmpfile) + fs_give((void **)&tmpfile); + + return(*errbuf ? errbuf : NULL); } /* ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --- 1.1 1994/11/22 03:43:54 +++ osdep/os-sv4.h 1995/05/31 15:40:43 @@ -282,10 +282,14 @@ mail back errors, and get recipients from To, cc, and bcc header lines. */ + +/*----- The usual inews configuration for sending news on Unix ---------*/ +#define INEWS "/local/lib/news/bin/inews" +#define INEWSFLAGS "-h" /*--------- Program employed by users to change their password ---------*/ --- 1.1 1995/05/11 05:39:08 +++ send.c 1995/06/01 17:52:31 @@ -1571,8 +1571,10 @@ set_default_hdrval(pf); } +#if 0 if(!outgoing->return_path) outgoing->return_path = rfc822_cpy_adr(outgoing->from); +#endif if(pf->text) /* free default value in any case */ fs_give((void **)&pf->text); @@ -3649,7 +3652,7 @@ if(!pine_header_line(tmp,"Newsgroups",header,header->env->newsgroups,f,s) || !pine_header_line(tmp,"Date",header,header->env->date,f,s) - || !pine_address_line(tmp,"From",header,header->env->from,f,s) +/* || !pine_address_line(tmp,"From",header,header->env->from,f,s) */ #if !defined(DOS) || defined(NOAUTH) /* add it below */ || !pine_address_line(tmp,"X-Sender",header,header->env->sender,f,s) #endif @@ -4088,8 +4093,13 @@ dprint(4, (debugfile, "Posting: [%s]\n", header->env->newsgroups)); +#if 0 if(ps_global->VAR_NNTP_SERVER && ps_global->VAR_NNTP_SERVER[0] - && ps_global->VAR_NNTP_SERVER[0][0]){ + && ps_global->VAR_NNTP_SERVER[0][0]) +#else + if(0) +#endif + { /*---------- NNTP server defined ----------*/ error_mess = NULL; @@ -4417,13 +4427,14 @@ * any of the forbidden headers. */ forbid = 0; + if (strucmp(name, "From")) { if(is_a_std_hdr(name) || (forbid=is_a_forbidden_hdr(name))){ if(forbid) q_status_message1(0, 1, 2, "Not allowed to change header \"%s\"", name); *t = save; continue; - } + }} pf->name = cpystr(name); pf->type = FreeText; ------ -Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 6 04:09:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17728; Tue, 6 Jun 95 04:09:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21164; Tue, 6 Jun 95 04:02:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21158; Tue, 6 Jun 95 04:02:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIwEy-00038UC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 03:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jim@draco.bison.mb.ca (Jim Jaworski) Subject: Testing, pls ignore Date: 5 Jun 1995 22:26:19 -0500 Message-Id: <3r0hsr$a3o@draco.bison.mb.ca> Status: O X-Status: -- Winnipeg MB Canada jim@draco.bison.mb.ca TEAM OS/2 MIME OK VE4JAF Proud to be a non-hyphenated Polish Canadian! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 6 04:10:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17752; Tue, 6 Jun 95 04:10:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06947; Tue, 6 Jun 95 04:02:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06941; Tue, 6 Jun 95 04:02:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIwFc-00038VC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 03:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jim@draco.bison.mb.ca (Jim Jaworski) Subject: Testing, pls ignore Date: 5 Jun 1995 22:26:33 -0500 Message-Id: <3r0ht9$a3v@draco.bison.mb.ca> Status: O X-Status: -- Winnipeg MB Canada jim@draco.bison.mb.ca TEAM OS/2 MIME OK VE4JAF Proud to be a non-hyphenated Polish Canadian! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 6 04:16:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17871; Tue, 6 Jun 95 04:16:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21174; Tue, 6 Jun 95 04:02:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21166; Tue, 6 Jun 95 04:02:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sIwIO-00038XC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 03:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jim@draco.bison.mb.ca (Jim Jaworski) Subject: Testing, pls ignore Date: 5 Jun 1995 22:27:12 -0500 Message-Id: <3r0hug$a4c@draco.bison.mb.ca> Status: O X-Status: -- Winnipeg MB Canada jim@draco.bison.mb.ca TEAM OS/2 MIME OK VE4JAF Proud to be a non-hyphenated Polish Canadian! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 6 09:09:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26547; Tue, 6 Jun 95 09:09:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11379; Tue, 6 Jun 95 09:03:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11368; Tue, 6 Jun 95 09:03:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJ0uV-00038UC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 08:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Wenzel Subject: HELP: Just two little questions . . . Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:06:13 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi! I hope that anyone can help me, from elm i know the 'autoreply'-feature, that will answere mails with an defined (defined means defined by the user e. g. when he's on holiday) text if set. Is there a feature like this implicated in pine? And the second question: If i join a newsgroup, all (!) messages are set with 'NEW'-status. Now i can read messages, reply to some people. If i leave and open another group and then open the first group again, all messages are 'NEW' again. In addition to that other flags (e .g. (A) for Answered) are unset when i leave and reopen the group. Thx for helping me! bye \|/ @ @ +-------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo-----------------------+ | Ralf Wenzel | n06600@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de | | Kavallerieweg 18 + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | 33104 Paderborn (GER) | PHONE: 0049 - 5254 - 87293 | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 6 14:11:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10473; Tue, 6 Jun 95 14:11:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17886; Tue, 6 Jun 95 14:03:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17880; Tue, 6 Jun 95 14:03:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJ5fK-00038VC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 13:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Debbie Kesling Subject: Re: Followup-to:? Reply-to? Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 18:28:06 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3qtqe9$6mv@news1.channel1.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Thanks! I had a few other folks email me with this info, so that is how I set it up. It seems to work fine when I type "F" to followup my post via tin, but when I am reading the newsgroup post with PINE, it wants to post to ALL the newsgroups... Sigh! Debbie On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq wrote: > You've got to Setup/Config and add: > customized-hdrs = Followup-to: > - then you'll get that field when composing the post! > > Zoli fekete@bc.edu (note my old full address @bcuxs2 is retired) > "For my assured failures and derelictions, I ask pardon beforehand of my > betters and my equals in my calling." - Rudyard Kipling > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 6 15:07:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13578; Tue, 6 Jun 95 15:07:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19436; Tue, 6 Jun 95 15:04:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19430; Tue, 6 Jun 95 15:04:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJ6aM-00038VC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 14:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) Subject: Re: Return-Receipt-To: A word of caution Date: 23 May 1995 23:31:20 GMT Message-Id: <3ptr88$sh2@news.primenet.com> References: Status: O X-Status: G. Harney (gharney@clark.net) wrote: >Was following the recent thread on getting a Rtrn Rcpt for email that >one sends. I decided to give it a shot. Works great, but; >I just sent an email off to a mailing list, and a min later I am getting >bombarded with return receipts from the mailing list recipients! I know >this list has about 1000+ members, I am wondering if I will be getting >that many rtrn rcpts. Oh well, live and learn. :) And if any of the list recipient's email/Internet provider charges extra for sending Internet mail, those people will have to pay for your return receipt. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 6 15:10:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13724; Tue, 6 Jun 95 15:10:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05190; Tue, 6 Jun 95 14:59:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05184; Tue, 6 Jun 95 14:59:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJ6UU-00038UC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 14:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Creating a Sig Date: 6 Jun 1995 18:30:42 GMT Message-Id: <3r26si$r8d@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Richard Denison (rmd2@coventry.ac.uk) wrote: : I'm relatively new to the World of e-mail but having read a few letters I : have noticed people have ended there messages with a signiture. I was : wondering how do you go about creating one. Also is it possible to save : messages that people have sent to you on floppy disc. If any one could : help I would be most grateful. Thanks. Make your signature with any text editor (pico is pines default) and save it as filename .signature (please note, the '.' dot is important) and it will automatically attach. Alternatively, and IMHO a better way is make a file and save it as something else (for example filename sig) and then attach it only when and where you want to, you can also make sig1, sig2, sig3, sigsex, siggolf, sigwhatever files, and attach them with the ^R (control+R) read in file command. OK here comes sig3 (which is a 3-line signature) BYE. /\ /~~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\/\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\| Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH /_/__\/_/___/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|__ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 6 15:23:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14281; Tue, 6 Jun 95 15:23:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05599; Tue, 6 Jun 95 15:15:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05593; Tue, 6 Jun 95 15:15:31 -0700 Received: (from michael@localhost) by linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA13219; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:14:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:14:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Schuyler To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Shell access In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: By now the word is out that it is fairly easy to gain access to a shell from within Pine. With 3.91 you can check the enable-alternate-editor option and list your editor as "bash" or "csh" or whatever. Even if the administrator has pine.conf.fixed set up as no-enable-alternate-editor it still works if you can save a .pinerc file with the feature listed. The same is true of 3.89, even though you don't get the nice config screens. Now, if you grant access to a shell anyway, this is all a moot point, but if you don't, it's a hole. Does anyone have any suggestions about this? o o o o o o o . . . _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~LinkNet~~~~~~\_ o _____ | Kitsap Regional | | Support | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | Library | |'least we try! | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ======================================================================== Support: (360) 405-9131 Fax:(360) 405-9128 support@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us Michael Schuyler: Voice:(360) 405-9139 michael@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 6 17:05:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18989; Tue, 6 Jun 95 17:05:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07990; Tue, 6 Jun 95 16:57:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07984; Tue, 6 Jun 95 16:57:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJ8Lf-00038UC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 16:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andrew Veliath Subject: Help, message that folder format is invalidated Date: 5 Jun 1995 22:55:54 GMT Message-Id: <3r021q$5c0@ayrton.eideti.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: "Folder format invalidated (consult an expert)" I get this message when using Pine, but I am having trouble tracking down why it is doing this. Obviosly the mail format has changed or something, but I do not konw enough about POP3 to know what happened. I use a POP3 mailserver and suddenly it started happening (not sure if I indirectly screwed something up); has anyone encountered something like this? Andrew Veliath From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 6 17:08:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19298; Tue, 6 Jun 95 17:08:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08335; Tue, 6 Jun 95 17:04:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08328; Tue, 6 Jun 95 17:04:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJ8ZU-00038UC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 17:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Bad message-ids (was PINE, please don't generate headers) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 15:29:42 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3qg9at$1l0@zeus.cuci.nl> <3qieue$lbh@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> <3qj2hv$1h9@zeus.cuci.nl> <3qleqh$spn@tools.near.net> <3qr9k8$hpi@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: > Off the top of my head, I'd expect that if there were a call that returned > the FQDN, using it [in lieu of the call to hostname(1)] in the code that > builds the right hand side would fix your problem if you made this > replacement in the Pine code prior to compiling it . There already is such a call in the Pine code. There always has been such a call in the Pine code. That call is gethostbyname(), which accepts a name (in this case, the name returned by hostname()) and returns a hostent struct. The h_name member of the hostent struct is documented as being the FQDN (or, in old ARPANET terms, the "official name"). The problem is that many systems are misconfigured; often by accident, but on occasion by bad advice from sorcerer's apprentices. The single most common misconfiguration is an entry in /etc/hosts for the local system which puts the non-FQDN first. There have been reports this problem which appear to have other causes. Both Yellow Pages/NIS from SUN and NetInfo from NeXT are perfectly capable of being misconfigured as well. The problem with the proferred "solution" of manually appending the domain name is that if/when the system's configuration is ever fixed, then you'll see doubled domain names, e.g. foo.bar.com.bar.com So, instead of adding a bug to work around a bug, it's usually best to fix the underlying bug (assuming you can find it). -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 6 17:08:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19311; Tue, 6 Jun 95 17:08:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22132; Tue, 6 Jun 95 17:04:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22126; Tue, 6 Jun 95 17:04:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJ8aA-00038VC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 17:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Will IMSP handle .newsrc's? Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 15:34:33 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3qu4s5$uln@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3qu4s5$uln@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 5 Jun 1995, Trey Harris wrote: > > I just reread Myers draft on IMSP, and I can't find whether or not it > will support .newsrc's. This isn't explicitly spelled out, but I suppose > that it can be handled as a configuration variable like any other. > > Has anyone (particularly in the Pine development team) considered this > issue? How will .newsrc files be handled over IMSP? The short answer is that 99% of my attention has been focused on IMAP4 protocol and development, and that other than verifying that IMSP is A Good Thing the draft has only been skimmed. Now that the c-client based IMAP4 toolkit is in alpha test (it's on ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap-4.ALPHA.tar.Z if you haven't gotten the word yet), IMSP will be looming as the next major development effort. I think that it is a safe assumption that IMSP will evolve, based upon our experiences with fitting it to Pine's needs. Hopefully, there won't be *much* evolution needed. But a lot of important matters were shelved on the grounds that "this should be handled in IMSP, not IMAP4", and all of these are going to come back up again. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 6 17:33:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20517; Tue, 6 Jun 95 17:33:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22556; Tue, 6 Jun 95 17:24:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22548; Tue, 6 Jun 95 17:24:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJ8n3-00038UC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 17:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: What is core.pine and why is it so large? Date: 23 May 1995 18:46:24 -0500 Message-Id: <3pts4g$82h@woof.cs.utexas.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: [ rosss@PrimeNet.Com (Scott Ross) wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] -> Thanks for the reply, that's a big load off of my shoulders. I get -> [.......................] -> Error since I haven't tried to investigate it. Again, thanks for the -> reply. Put the following line in your ".cshrc" file and even if PINE crashes the size of core file generated will be 0. limit coredumpsize 0 Remember "core" files are generated whenever a program crashes. So it holds for Pine, Mosaic.......and if you are an ordinary user, you don't need to worry about core files. Good Luck Ananda -- Ananda M. Kar |(H)458-9754 | URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/ananda/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 6 18:42:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23169; Tue, 6 Jun 95 18:42:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10121; Tue, 6 Jun 95 18:39:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10115; Tue, 6 Jun 95 18:39:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJ9yk-00038XC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 18:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Creating a Sig Date: 6 Jun 1995 21:43:30 GMT Message-Id: <3r2i62$c3a@grape.epix.net> References: <3r2a5g$4vu@clarknet.clark.net> Status: O X-Status: A. Reichert (reichera@clark.net) wrote: : ...and following DearOldDad's post... : To save messages, use the "Extract" command. Pine will then ask you for : a filename, then save the message to that filename. You can then : download and save on disk. : Here is my .sigl file: : | Alan Reichert - reichera@clark.net | : | "Acrophobic Lighting Designer for Hire" | : | Upcoming Project: "Living Together" | : |-------------------------------------------| : |http://www.clark.net/pub/reichera/home.html| : |___________________________________________| Hhmmmm ... OK Alan is correct except that it's E for (E)xport, but I admit that's kinda picky, but you get the idea ... (I hope) ... anyway where were we ... Oh yes, pardon me I'm workin' under Windowzzzz Terminal and something must be sleeping now ... OK Bill Gates just called and said go ahead ... Anyway follow Alan's advice re downloading except that possibly maybe your server will not allow it in which case download to your hard drive, then copy it to a floppy, then delete it from your hard drive ... some servers do not permit downloads to A or B drives (assuming your using a PC or clone) they insist that you download to C or D, takes less time (microseconds but what the heck, it's their machine) anyway where were we ... oh yes, here comes filename sig (you've already seen sig3). Afterthought; if yer not usin a PC but an apple this may not apply 'cause their kinda fruity ;-) /~~~/~~~/~~~/~~~/~~~/~~\/\ POCONO MTNS PA DearOldDad The older I get, the smarter I used to be./ \/\ 717 646 9338 Jonathan Kids are people too; Have guitar, will travel. \/\ 646 0162 Freckles If you ever need a friend, get a dog. / / / \/\ POB602 Clyde Cats are little people in fur coats./ / /zip/ \/18610 Mom If you think education is expensive, try ignorance/. \/\ Thought for the day: / / / / / / / / / / / / \ None: My mind is temporarily out of order./___/___/___/___/___/___/____\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 6 19:05:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23690; Tue, 6 Jun 95 19:05:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23907; Tue, 6 Jun 95 18:59:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23901; Tue, 6 Jun 95 18:59:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJACa-00038UC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 18:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: reichera@clark.net (A. Reichert) Subject: Re: Creating a Sig Date: 6 Jun 1995 21:55:33 GMT Message-Id: <3r2isl$2qs@clarknet.clark.net> References: <3r2a5g$4vu@clarknet.clark.net> <3r2i62$c3a@grape.epix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Yep, I stand corrected. (E)xport, _not_ (E)xtract. (Sorry, forgot what language I was in.) Standby for .sig: - Alan _____________________________________________ | The Noble Blades' 1995 Ruptured Organs Tour | | - Stage Combat Troupe, based in | | Reston, Virginia | |http://www.clark.net/pub/reichera/noble.html | |_____________________________________________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 6 20:12:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25304; Tue, 6 Jun 95 20:12:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11252; Tue, 6 Jun 95 19:59:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11246; Tue, 6 Jun 95 19:59:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJBEv-00038VC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 19:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: geoffrey@hunter.cc.utas.edu.au (Geoffrey Day) Subject: Blind carbon copies Date: 23 May 1995 23:51:29 GMT Message-Id: <3ptse2$p6b@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au> Status: O X-Status: Is is possible to have blind carbon copies in pine ? That is can you send out to a list of people so that they only see their own address and not the complete list of addresses it goes to. -- Geoffrey Day Email : Geoff.Day@its.utas.edu.au Systems Programmer Ph : (002) 20 7415 I.T.S. University of Tasmania From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 6 20:21:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25591; Tue, 6 Jun 95 20:21:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24786; Tue, 6 Jun 95 20:14:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24780; Tue, 6 Jun 95 20:14:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJBSP-00038UC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 20:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: 3dprint@ssnet.com (3D Printing!) Subject: Auto pipe Date: 6 Jun 1995 19:11:50 -0400 Message-Id: <3r2nbm$cgb@marlin.ssnet.com> Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to auto pipe ALL incoming messages to a specific script in Pine? If I try using the .forward file: \3dprint, "|/home/marlin/users/3dprint/bin/doug 3dprint" where 'doug' is the script file. I get 'service not available' message. If anyone has any idea how to solve this problem, please let me know. Thanks in advance. :) -- 3dprint@ssnet.com "Internet is as Internet does." http://ssnet.com/~3dprint -Gump Clan- |>. |\. <. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 6 20:58:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26391; Tue, 6 Jun 95 20:58:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12014; Tue, 6 Jun 95 20:44:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12008; Tue, 6 Jun 95 20:44:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJBpR-00038UC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 20:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sac26400@saclink1.csus.edu (S L. Barber) Subject: Re: Pine with remote server Date: 6 Jun 1995 03:50:50 GMT Message-Id: <3r0jaq$dch@news.csus.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: Daniel Baum (daniel@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN.actcom.co.il) wrote: : I am having no success whatsoever using Pine to read remote mail on a server : to which i am connected via SLIP. : As far as I know I have followed all the instructions, but always get : "connection refused" : Does anybody know the correct incantation to get it working? : Daniel Baum : danbaum@shani.net : I am also having the same problem. Please let me know if you receive and answer. I think maybe there is some variable that needs to be set. --Sharon ---------- Department of English California State University, Sacramento sbarber@csus.edu Disclaimer: The views expressed are not necessarily those of my employer. But they should be. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 6 21:18:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27069; Tue, 6 Jun 95 21:18:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12405; Tue, 6 Jun 95 21:09:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12394; Tue, 6 Jun 95 21:09:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJCKS-00038XC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 21:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Larry Corsa Subject: Address Book Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 20:16:27 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to send mail to an 80 address address book but not show the entire list in the "To:" field? Thanks, Larry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 6 21:18:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27106; Tue, 6 Jun 95 21:18:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25483; Tue, 6 Jun 95 21:09:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25477; Tue, 6 Jun 95 21:09:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJCJT-00038VC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 21:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: question about sent-mail folder Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 22:24:33 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 2 Jun 1995, Simone Shoemaker wrote: > I notice that every time I send a message, it gets copied to a folder > called "sent mail". Is there any purpose behind this? As as far as I'm > concerned, I don't need to keep those messages around. Is there a way to > tell the Pine to quit doing this - or at least ask me whether I want to > save a particular message? Check out the following option under Setup/Config from the pine main menu: Ian >From unix-pine online help: > OPTION: Default-FCC (File Carbon Copy) > > This value specifies where a copy of outgoing mail should be saved. If > this is not a path name, it will be in the default collection for saves. > Any valid folder specification, local or IMAP, is allowed. This default > folder carbon copy only applies when the fcc-rule-name (see later in this > configuration screen) is set to use the default folder. Unix Pine default > is normally "sent-mail" in the default folder collection. PC-Pine default > is "SENTMAIL" (normally stored as SENTMAIL.MTX) > > To suppress saving of outgoing mail, set: default-fcc="" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > FOR MORE INFORMATION: From the Main Menu, select "L FOLDER LIST" and press > "?" for Help... Look for the section "Valid Folder Names". From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 6 22:24:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29133; Tue, 6 Jun 95 22:24:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26401; Tue, 6 Jun 95 22:20:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26395; Tue, 6 Jun 95 22:20:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJDNX-00038ZC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 22:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: david Subject: Re: HELP: pine not using FQDN for reply-to address? Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 23:22:04 +1000 Message-Id: References: <3ptdri$7be@noc2.drexel.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 24 May 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > The most likely cause of this is a broken system configuration. In > particular, it is very likely that your /etc/hosts has an entry that looks > like > 129.25.3.11 dunx1 dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu > whereas the correct entry would be: > 129.25.3.11 dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu dunx1 Next solution please! Our hosts have the FQDN preceeding the node name in /etc/hosts, yet the problem persists on the SunOS boxes but not on the AIX boxes. dave From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 6 22:40:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29565; Tue, 6 Jun 95 22:40:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13676; Tue, 6 Jun 95 22:35:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13670; Tue, 6 Jun 95 22:35:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJDeW-00038XC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 22:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: csb@sjfc.edu (Coenraad Bakker) Subject: Posting News Message-Id: <1995Jun6.200707.9157@sjfc.edu> Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 20:07:07 GMT Status: O X-Status: I am using pine 3.91 on a UNIX system and attempting to a post to a newsgroup. The error I get is: [Error posting message: 441 User usenet does not exist! can"t post.]. I can read news fine both with rn and pine and if you get this it proves I can post news with Pnews. Apparently, I need to define something somewhere but I am at a loss where that might be. The nntp-server entry in .pinerc is properly identified as sjfc.edu. Does someone have a suggestion? Coenraad Bakker -- Coenraad Bakker Director Academic Computing Services St. John Fisher College 3690 East Avenue From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 00:07:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01858; Wed, 7 Jun 95 00:07:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27596; Wed, 7 Jun 95 00:00:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27590; Wed, 7 Jun 95 00:00:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJEt9-00038YC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 23:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rneu@rneu.loc.gov Subject: Re: Snipping with Pine Date: 6 Jun 1995 11:14:51 GMT Message-Id: <3r1dbb$jbt@rs7.loc.gov> References: <3q8q51$c3a@epx.cis.umn.edu> <3q9i3j$q39@gondor.sdsu.edu> <3qbk3b$h42@epx.cis.umn.edu> <3qbo8m$onm@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Maybe I'm just being too clueless to understand the real problem, but it sounds like some of youss guyss are forgetting, after you type ^^, to move the cursor to the other end of the block you want to cut. _Then_ you hit ^K, and it all goes. If you want, so I'm told, you can move the cursor to still another place and hit ^U to make it all come back there, but I have yet to find occasion to try. >rogo0009@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Dan Rogovin) writes: > >>How does this work? I type ctrl-^, and nothing happens. I then press >>another key and a "[B" appears, the same as if I'd typed it in. Then if >>I type ctrl-K it only erases the line I'm currently on. What am I doing >>wrong? > R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life rneu@rneu.loc.gov or (better) rrne@loc.gov I speak for me. Only. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 00:15:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02086; Wed, 7 Jun 95 00:15:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14946; Wed, 7 Jun 95 00:10:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14940; Wed, 7 Jun 95 00:10:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJF3e-00038VC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 23:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Pine and PGP ?? Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 20:59:57 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3r21nf$2fd@bs33n.staffs.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3r21nf$2fd@bs33n.staffs.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: On 6 Jun 1995, Thomas Olsson wrote: > Is there anyone out there using PGP with Pine ? There is a > hack for Elm which allows you to use PGP with it, but as we dont use > Elm, the same for Pine would be nice. Any pointers/ideas would be > highly appreciated, You might check in on the newsgroup alt.security.pgp, although in my own humble opinion there are a lot of fairly irrelevant posts on that group. Nevertheless, somebody might be able to steer you in the right direction. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 04:23:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08622; Wed, 7 Jun 95 04:23:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00723; Wed, 7 Jun 95 04:15:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00717; Wed, 7 Jun 95 04:15:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJIvS-00038bC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 04:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stefan Hougardy Subject: customized-hdrs does not work ? Date: 6 Jun 1995 11:49:33 GMT Message-Id: <3r1fce$odp@hahn.informatik.hu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hello, I set customized-hdrs=Return-Receipt-To: xx@yy.zz in the .pinerc file, but it is ignored. I am using pine 3.89. Is this option not available in this version ? Or do I have to set any additional options ? Thanks for your help. Stefan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 05:44:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10775; Wed, 7 Jun 95 05:44:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19414; Wed, 7 Jun 95 05:33:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rs8.loc.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19408; Wed, 7 Jun 95 05:33:43 -0700 Received: by rs8.loc.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA75565; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 08:33:42 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 08:33:42 -0400 (EDT) From: R Russell Neuswanger To: pine-info Subject: automatic carbons?? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to set up my addressbook so that, for instance, whenever I send or forward a note to the squash group or the hiking group, it automatically carbons my wife, so that she knows I've done it? I know I can simply list her among the groups -- that's what I'm doing now -- but I'd like to be able to take advantage of the feature some of my recipients' mailers have of separating carbons into a different part of their inboxes. R. R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP), LC Edel sei der Mensch, Washington, DC 20540-4120 Hilfreich und gut! 202.707.8747 (shared line) Denn das allein neuswang@mail.loc.gov Unterscheidet ihn ... or (best) rrne@loc.gov -- Goethe No teratobibliotic entity avows *my* emanations. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 05:47:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10828; Wed, 7 Jun 95 05:47:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19382; Wed, 7 Jun 95 05:31:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19376; Wed, 7 Jun 95 05:31:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJKAl-00038YC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 05:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag418@rgfn.epcc.edu (Jared S Warren) Subject: Help with confidential list.. Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 03:11:53 GMT Message-Id: <1995Jun7.031153.24720@rgfn.epcc.edu> Status: O X-Status: I am running a very small mailing list through pine v 3.91, my question is, how can I prevent the entire mailing list from being listed in the header, I have seen this done before, however, I have no idea what mailer they were using, or any other system information. Thanks for you help, Jared Warren -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jared Warren "With every victory, let it be said of me, my source ag418@rgfn.epcc.edu of strength, my source of hope, is Christ alone," JAS, BSA, Troop 260 --- Michael English "In Christ Alone" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 06:33:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11998; Wed, 7 Jun 95 06:33:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02261; Wed, 7 Jun 95 06:25:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02255; Wed, 7 Jun 95 06:25:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJL0I-00038CC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 06:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Wenzel Subject: Re: signature file before the reply text.. Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 07:55:09 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9505310249.AA04773@civeng.unsw.OZ.AU> Status: O X-Status: On 30 May 1995, Allen Yen Chung Hsu wrote: file, it comes before the message i received, is there a way to put the signature file at the end of the email? To Put the footer (signature) automatically at the end of the replied message, use 'signature-at-bottom'-Feature from the Setup. Press (S)etup froom the Main Menu, (C)onfig and search in the feature list for '[] signature-at-bottom'. Leave Setup with (E)xit. See also the Online-Help. I hope I could help. Good Luck! bye \|/ @ @ +-------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo-----------------------+ | Ralf Wenzel | n06600@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de | | Kavallerieweg 18 + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | 33104 Paderborn (GER) | PHONE: 0049 - 5254 - 87293 | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 06:41:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12318; Wed, 7 Jun 95 06:41:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20261; Wed, 7 Jun 95 06:36:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20255; Wed, 7 Jun 95 06:35:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJL3E-00038UC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 06:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk (Jeff Goldberg) Subject: Beam and Whiteside MS-Windows/TCP-IP Date: Wed, 07 Jun 1995 13:21:49 BST Message-Id: <1995Jun7.132149@tehran> Status: O X-Status: I would like to install Pine in an MS-Windows environment using "Beam and Whiteside" TCP/IP. (a) Has any one done this? (b) Is it possible? (c) can I use a compiled pcpine_?.zip or do I need to compile my own? (d) if the former, which pcpine_?.zip do I get. (e) if I need to recompile, what advice can you give? (f) Is there a Pine FAQ (I didn't check rtfm, but I did look on what I hope is a local mirror (src.doc.ic.ac.uk). Thanks. -- Jeffrey Goldberg Email: J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk WWW: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 07:09:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12980; Wed, 7 Jun 95 07:09:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02685; Wed, 7 Jun 95 07:01:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02673; Wed, 7 Jun 95 07:01:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJLQy-00038UC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 06:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cczdao@unicorn.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk (David Osborne) Subject: Re: Delivery Confirmation? Date: 7 Jun 1995 12:28:27 GMT Message-Id: <3r461b$b28@griffin.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Robyn Boyle writes: > On pegasus mail, there is a function whereby you can get notification that > your mail has actually been delivered to the other person's server. Is there > any such function on Pine? Pegasus uses some "private" headers for that function, since there's no official method in the RFC822 mail standard supporting receipt acknowledgement. Depending on the mailer used at the remote end, you *may* find that getting Pine to insert Return-Receipt-To: your-address or Acknowledge-To: your-address headers (perhaps by adding either or both as "custom headers" in your Pine config) will do what you want. There's a group in the Internet Engineering Task Force working on the specification of this type of facility, but until that's published and widely implemented, only ad hoc methods like these may work and then only for those recipients whose mailers support them. -- ~~David Osborne Cripps Computing Centre, University of Nottingham From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 07:55:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14489; Wed, 7 Jun 95 07:55:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21401; Wed, 7 Jun 95 07:46:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21395; Wed, 7 Jun 95 07:46:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJMKf-00038CC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 07:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aromano@eden.rutgers.edu (Allison Romano) Subject: O.K> all you hot shots!![D Date: 7 Jun 1995 10:31:41 -0400 Message-Id: <3r4d8d$q7n@er5.rutgers.edu> Status: O X-Status: When I try to post to newsgroups I get an "Error posting message: 480 Authentication required for command." error message. Any ideas?? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 08:43:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17007; Wed, 7 Jun 95 08:43:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22494; Wed, 7 Jun 95 08:30:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22486; Wed, 7 Jun 95 08:30:05 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 7 Jun 1995 16:24:58 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id QAA13895; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 16:28:31 +0100 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 16:28:29 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Allison Romano Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: O.K> all you hot shots!![D In-Reply-To: <3r4d8d$q7n@er5.rutgers.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: You should probably have asked your local site news server administration before going further afield... The problem is just what the error message says: "Authentication required". Basically a news server can be set up so that whilst people can READ articles freely in order to POST an article they must first authenticate (supply a username and password) to the news server. This, for example, allows logs to be kept so that offensive articles can be tracked back to the miscreant who posted them. Judging from the error message your news server is set up in such a way. However in its current incarnation Pine does not support authentication to news servers. So you'll have to either persuade your news administrator to lift the restriction, or look at using another news reading program I think. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On 7 Jun 1995, Allison Romano wrote: > When I try to post to newsgroups I get an "Error posting message: 480 Authentication required for command." error message. Any ideas?? > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 10:31:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22179; Wed, 7 Jun 95 10:31:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06814; Wed, 7 Jun 95 10:26:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06808; Wed, 7 Jun 95 10:26:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJOoL-00038CC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 10:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lukas Karlsson Subject: Re: inbox readonly problem Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 04:44:41 -0400 Message-Id: References: <199506060459.AAA21315@cloud9.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199506060459.AAA21315@cloud9.net> Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 6 Jun 1995, Peter Head wrote: > Nice to see you around. Could I grab a copy of that script from you? I > always accidentally start another session of pine and become frustrated > by making both "read-only" I assume you have it wired into your .profile, > if that's not the case let me know. Thanks. hey, man, i'm everywhere! :) you can find the script in ~karlsson/bin and it is called. all you have to do to make it work is make a directory called ~/bin and chnge your PATH from export PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/usr/etc to export PATH=~/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/usr/etc in the future, you can put any programs in this directory and they will run instead of the ones with the equivalent names in /usr/local/bin (or any of the other directories in the path for that matter). hope it is useful for you. you might want to read it and see just how simple it is. :) - lukas ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lukas Karlsson karlsson@cloud9.net Cloud 9 Internet White Plains, New York From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 11:20:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24586; Wed, 7 Jun 95 11:20:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26722; Wed, 7 Jun 95 11:11:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26716; Wed, 7 Jun 95 11:11:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJPWG-00038CC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 11:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" Subject: Re: Help with confidential list.. Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 07:05:31 -0400 Message-Id: References: <1995Jun7.031153.24720@rgfn.epcc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1995Jun7.031153.24720@rgfn.epcc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Put the addresses in the Bcc: field, and than they wouldn't be shown when sent (by any mailer, not just Pine)! Zoli fekete@bc.edu (note my old full address @bcuxs2 is retired) "For my assured failures and derelictions, I ask pardon beforehand of my betters and my equals in my calling." - Rudyard Kipling On Wed, 7 Jun 1995, Jared S Warren wrote: > I am running a very small mailing list through pine v 3.91, my question is, > how can I prevent the entire mailing list from being listed in the header, From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 11:21:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24623; Wed, 7 Jun 95 11:21:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08062; Wed, 7 Jun 95 11:16:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08056; Wed, 7 Jun 95 11:16:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJPaC-00038CC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 11:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: HELP WITH POST TO CURRENT MESSAGE Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 00:16:28 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 6 Jun 1995, Glenn Graham wrote: > [When posting news with pine]... > It then stops and says "error 411 more included in text than new" This is the key phrase. Many newsservers wont accept a post to a newsgroup if you are qouting more lines of text than you, yourself, have written. Mine, for example, just seems to count the number of lines starting with ">" and compares it with the number of lines that don't. A common dodge is to replace all of those little ">" with something else like ":" or ";". Some people have gone so far as to hack the pine code to make this automatic. Hopefully, this will solve your problem. Ian From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 11:23:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24688; Wed, 7 Jun 95 11:23:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26801; Wed, 7 Jun 95 11:16:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26795; Wed, 7 Jun 95 11:16:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJPZm-00038EC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 11:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: vacation feature - ATTN Pine Development Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 23:55:18 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 6 Jun 1995, Ralf Wenzel wrote: > I hope that anyone can help me, from elm i know the 'autoreply'-feature, > that will answere mails with an defined (defined means defined by the > user e. g. when he's on holiday) text if set. Is there a feature like this > implicated in pine? Not that it is a problem to answer the above question when it is asked, but this question *is* asked an awful lot. Maybe it is time for pine to interface with vaction like it does with spell and the various other bits of unix which it is uses to do its daily work of sending and receiving mail. Would Pine Development consider this an unknowing feature request from all of those people who wrote in questions just like this one over the years? Ian Ollmann From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 13:49:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02106; Wed, 7 Jun 95 13:49:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00228; Wed, 7 Jun 95 13:32:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00222; Wed, 7 Jun 95 13:32:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJRir-00038MC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 13:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roland@fast.net Subject: Mail folder repair/rebuild - is it possible? Date: 24 May 1995 03:50:17 GMT Message-Id: <3puadp$3di@nn.fast.net> Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to reconstruct Pine mail folders and headers? While extracting/saving some messages from a large archive file, my system crashed and now I can't open the message folder. The folder file is intact and I can read it fine as text, but Pine chokes and is unable to open it. Pine just reutrns the message "Folder xxx reopened" where xxx is the previously opened folder. Any suggestions? Thanks Roland From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 13:49:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02138; Wed, 7 Jun 95 13:49:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11180; Wed, 7 Jun 95 13:32:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11174; Wed, 7 Jun 95 13:32:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJRi9-00038CC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 13:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Glenn Graham Subject: HELP WITH POST TO CURRENT MESSAGE Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 03:55:38 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: No, I'm not so stupid I don't know how to post a message. The problem, I'm having is as follows: case: I am in a usenet newsgroup reading a posting from another user. I want to edit and add something to that existing posting I press the "R" reply key The editor comes on screen It asks post followup to newgroup ? I answer yes I then enter my text After I finish I enter ^X to send The system asks to send the message I reply yes The system says "may be posted to thousands of people I reply yes It then starts to write to Fcc It then stops and says "error 411 more included in text than new" message not sent Now I notice I can post a Re: to that message that will be displayed in another folder if I answer NO to posting to "Follow up to newsgroup" but if I answer yes to "follow up to newsgroup " the message won't be sent. How come???? Please reply Thanks.....Glenn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 13:51:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02199; Wed, 7 Jun 95 13:51:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11192; Wed, 7 Jun 95 13:32:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11186; Wed, 7 Jun 95 13:32:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJRkF-00038LC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 13:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Glenn Graham Subject: IN ADDITION TO THE LAST POST Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 03:57:40 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I'm using pine 3.91 if the helps with the answers to my question. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 13:52:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02243; Wed, 7 Jun 95 13:52:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11314; Wed, 7 Jun 95 13:37:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11308; Wed, 7 Jun 95 13:37:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJRlW-00038RC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 13:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Glenn Graham Subject: HOW DO YOU WORK MIME? Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 03:59:17 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Does anybody out there know how to take a mime file and make it readable using pine 3.91? Please reply ` Thanks.....Glenn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 13:54:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02385; Wed, 7 Jun 95 13:54:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00350; Wed, 7 Jun 95 13:37:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00344; Wed, 7 Jun 95 13:37:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJRl2-00038OC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 13:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: reichera@clark.net (A. Reichert) Subject: Re: Return-Receipt-To: A word of caution Date: 24 May 1995 03:45:30 GMT Message-Id: <3pua4q$qp6@clarknet.clark.net> References: <3ptr88$sh2@news.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Not for a machine receipt. - Alan Bob Brody (brody@primenet.com) wrote: : And if any of the list recipient's email/Internet provider charges : extra for sending Internet mail, those people will have to pay for your : return receipt. -- _____________________________________________ | The Noble Blades' 1995 Ruptured Organs Tour | | - Stage Combat Troupe, based in | | Reston, Virginia | |_____________________________________________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 14:12:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03331; Wed, 7 Jun 95 14:12:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00553; Wed, 7 Jun 95 13:47:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00547; Wed, 7 Jun 95 13:47:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJRw3-00038CC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 13:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: HOW DO YOU WORK MIME? Date: 6 Jun 1995 19:53:01 GMT Message-Id: <3r2bmt$1g90@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Glenn Graham wrote: >Does anybody out there know how to take a mime file and >make it readable using pine 3.91? MIME is not a file format but an encapsulation method. As far as you are concerned, to add a document for encapsulation in a mail message via MIME, simply type the name of the document in the "Attchmnt:" header, it will be encoded for you. Or, if you don't remember the name of the file, you can press ^T (control-T) and choose the file from a list. The person at the other end will be able to extract the document from your mail message automatically if they are using Pine or another MIME-aware mail user agent. If they are not, they can use the munpack utility to get at the data. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 14:31:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04554; Wed, 7 Jun 95 14:31:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12184; Wed, 7 Jun 95 14:16:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12178; Wed, 7 Jun 95 14:16:30 -0700 Received: (from michael@localhost) by linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA16810; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 14:15:23 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 14:15:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Schuyler To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Shell access In-Reply-To: <199506071650.LAA29032@staff.cc.purdue.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 7 Jun 1995, Dave Halsema wrote: > > By now the word is out that it is fairly easy to gain access to a shell > >from within Pine. With 3.91 you can check the enable-alternate-editor > >option and list your editor as "bash" or "csh" or whatever. Even if the > >administrator has pine.conf.fixed set up as no-enable-alternate-editor it > > I played around with this a little bit and it seems that one work around > is to set the editor variable to "" in the pine.conf.fixed file, so it > looks like this: > > # Specifies the program invoked by ^_ in the Composer, > # or the "enable-alternate-editor-implicitly" feature. > editor="" > > Basically, it still allows the user to run an alternate editor, but > the editor is "nothing", so no harm done. Even if the user writes > a .pinerc in their home directory with the editor line set to > something else, they cannot invoke it. If you can prove me wrong > on this, please do. :-) Okay. Your method works if you just compose a message and hit Ctrl-_ to invoke the non-existent editor, but if youi type vsh or bash as the first line of your message, THEN hit Ctrl-_ to "invoke external editor," then VOILA! you have a shell available. If messages bounced to this machine within the last 48 hours it is because this method was used on us to invoke a fork bomb and shut down our system. o o o o o o o . . . _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~LinkNet~~~~~~\_ o _____ | Kitsap Regional | | Support | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | Library | |'least we try! | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ======================================================================== Support: (360) 405-9131 Fax:(360) 405-9128 support@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us Michael Schuyler: Voice:(360) 405-9139 michael@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 14:41:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05094; Wed, 7 Jun 95 14:41:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12463; Wed, 7 Jun 95 14:27:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12457; Wed, 7 Jun 95 14:27:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJSaa-00038CC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 14:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: HELP: pine not using FQDN for reply-to address? Date: 7 Jun 1995 08:30:56 -0700 Message-Id: <3r4gng$3j2@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: <3ptdri$7be@noc2.drexel.edu> Sender: Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: Home for the Hopelessly Unhinged Keywords: Cc: In article , Mark Crispin wrote: : :I heard a rumor to the effect that this is a known bug in Solaris 2.3 and :the fix is to upgrade to 2.4. I checked this with a 2.3 and 2.4 machine, using the same pine 3.91 binary, the same /etc/nsswitch.conf file, and the the same /etc/hosts file. /etc/hosts lists the FQDN first. On the 2.3 machine, the message ID contained the non-FQDN, while on the 2.4 machine the message ID contained the FQDN. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 15:35:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08103; Wed, 7 Jun 95 15:35:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03072; Wed, 7 Jun 95 15:28:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from linet01.li.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03065; Wed, 7 Jun 95 15:28:52 -0700 Received: (from damark@localhost) by linet01.li.net (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA25292; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 18:29:09 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 18:29:09 -0400 (EDT) From: John Damark To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: John Damark Subject: uudecode with Pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, I am using Pine 3.91 with UNIX,and have been trying to uudecode pictures from newsgroups.I have recently read that Pine can uudecode them.But I have not seen any help files on how to do this.Are there any? Can anybody help? Sincerely, John Damark From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 17:04:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12945; Wed, 7 Jun 95 17:04:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05107; Wed, 7 Jun 95 16:57:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05101; Wed, 7 Jun 95 16:57:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJUvB-00038CC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 16:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley) Subject: Re: PINE, please don't generate headers Date: 7 Jun 1995 19:56:19 GMT Message-Id: <3r5093$227@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> References: <3q5kll$5pa@ocean.CAM.ORG> <3qj2hv$1h9@zeus.cuci.nl> <3qle8h$1do@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> <3r2srr$fq3@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <3r2srr$fq3@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>, James C Deikun wrote: >In fact, you should be creating an entirely new one. If one message >is sent to two or more mail-news gateways and goes through each one >with message-id preserved, but to different newsgroups or sets of >newsgroups, the multiple copies will interfere with each others' >propagation. Just as if someone posted the same article to two different newsgroups from two different servers with the same message id. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 17:06:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13380; Wed, 7 Jun 95 17:06:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05243; Wed, 7 Jun 95 17:02:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05237; Wed, 7 Jun 95 17:02:33 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id UAA03240; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 20:02:21 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id UAA06125; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 20:02:16 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA26072; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:00:51 EDT Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 20:00:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Glenn Graham Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HOW DO YOU WORK MIME? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 6 Jun 1995, Glenn Graham wrote: > Does anybody out there know how to take a mime file and > make it readable using pine 3.91? > I presume you are receiving MIMEd attachments that are not recognized by Pine as attachments. This could be because the sending mail user agent (MUA) is not providing the necessary separator. Anyway, you can save the MIMEd file and decode it using munpack. If you need a copy of munpack, let me know and I will email you a copy attached to a Pine message. Let me know if you need the SUN Unix or DOS version. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 17:19:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13783; Wed, 7 Jun 95 17:19:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16335; Wed, 7 Jun 95 17:13:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16329; Wed, 7 Jun 95 17:13:47 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id UAA03600; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 20:13:43 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id UAA06551; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 20:13:38 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA26120; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:12:13 EDT Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 20:12:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: John Damark Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, John Damark Subject: Re: uudecode with Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 7 Jun 1995, John Damark wrote: > Hi, > I am using Pine 3.91 with UNIX,and have been trying to uudecode pictures > from newsgroups.I have recently read that Pine can uudecode them.But I > have not seen any help files on how to do this.Are there any? Can anybody > help? The present version of pine does not have the uudecode function built it. You can read in a uuencoded file to pine using ^R and save a message with a uuencoded file using ^E (export). You can uudecode files with a single uuencoded file as part of the message by eporting the message to a file and typing 'uudecode ' or piping the message from within Pine (if enabled) to uudecode, '| uudecode' Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 17:57:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14823; Wed, 7 Jun 95 17:57:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16894; Wed, 7 Jun 95 17:52:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16888; Wed, 7 Jun 95 17:52:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJVk0-00038CC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 17:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kilty@netcom.com (Kathleen Richards) Subject: Need a filter....? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 18:23:43 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi! I have over 3000 messages in my inbox. I get mail from some 5 different mailing groups/lists as well as from several individuals who write to me regularly. I have two questions/requests for help. I would be *eternally* grateful for any assistance! :) I am hoping for: 1) a script that will sort through my inbox as it stands now and put letters (in order from the first letters in to the last) from each group or individual specified in the script into a specified folder (i.e. all letters from the adoption mailing list into a folder called "adoption" and so on) 2) a script that will in future sort these things as they come in and send them to particular groups/mail folders where I can check on them at my leisure. I cannot find anything in my email now and it is driving me nuts!!! :( Is any of this possible? I tried a script for sorting beforehand that I downloaded from here some long time back but could never get it to work. Basically I would like to be able to, say, check my adoption mail, then check my reptile mailing list, then check the unix stuff, etc. I also get regular letters from a niece and nephew that I want to make sure I don't miss. This means that some of the sorting has to be done by "Who From" (i.e. my niece and/or nephew) and some has to look for the mailing list title rather than an individual poster/sender. Anyone? Thank you very much for your time and kind attention! -- kathleen richards kilty@netcom.com "Soon anyone who's not on the World Wide Web will qualify for a government subsidy for the home-pageless." S. Adams, May 1995 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 18:29:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15916; Wed, 7 Jun 95 18:29:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06869; Wed, 7 Jun 95 18:22:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06863; Wed, 7 Jun 95 18:22:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJWFh-00038CC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 18:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roberto Allen Subject: You can't answer this Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 20:53:10 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: You can't reply to me using the Reply feature in Pine, because if you try, the message will get sent to rallen@city.ba.k12.md.us instead of rallen@knight.city.ba.k12.md.us. (Try it!) Does anyone know where this information is stored? There's nothing like that in my pine.conf file. Should there be a line like Reply-To-Host=knight.city.ba.k12.md.us? Is there something like that in another file? We are a new site and are running Pine 3.91. Thank you for replying (or at least trying). --Roberto From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 18:39:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16165; Wed, 7 Jun 95 18:39:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17471; Wed, 7 Jun 95 18:32:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17465; Wed, 7 Jun 95 18:32:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJWP9-00038EC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 18:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rclayton@yorick.umd.edu (Rodney Clayton) Subject: pine for aix? Date: 7 Jun 1995 19:06:00 GMT Message-Id: <3r4tao$oaf@hecate.umd.edu> Status: O X-Status: Is there a version of pine for AIX running on a rs/6000? How much does it cost and where would I get it? Thank's Rod From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 18:53:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16468; Wed, 7 Jun 95 18:53:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17672; Wed, 7 Jun 95 18:45:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from yacht.ee.fit.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17666; Wed, 7 Jun 95 18:45:30 -0700 Received: from skiff (skiff.ee.fit.edu) by ee.fit.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0/900117wah) id AA12701; Wed, 7 Jun 95 21:44:01 EDT Received: by skiff (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA21224; Wed, 7 Jun 95 21:45:43 EDT Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 21:45:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" X-Sender: ccurtis@skiff To: Pine List Subject: Pine [bug] ; 3.91 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: We have users who, because they are evil little boys and girls and don't delete their mail, have aliases sending their mail to their home directory instead of the INBOX directory. As part of the script that does this, the MAIL environment variable is set, but PINE ignores it. Most other mail readers do not. Although this in itself is just an inconvenience, I modified /usr/local/lib/pine.conf to set inbox-path to $MAIL. Works fine _if_ MAIL is set, but dumps otherwise. Likewise, if MAIL is set but has no value, PINE dumps. I don't know if this is a bug, but PINE should not simply ignore the MAIL variable. What we've had to do is either take each user who obviously doesn't know what they're doing by the hand to fix the problem, or set incoming-folders to include the new default mail folder. This is a problem for people who don't have the special mail folder, and just makes the whole thing complicated all over again. That's why we tried to get people to use PINE in the first place, to avoid complication... T | Christopher Curtis | ... when you have eliminated the | O E | Sun Lab System Administrator | impossible, whatever remains, | S A | Florida Institute of Technology | however improbable, must be the | / M | Melbourne, Florida | truth - Doyle | 2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 18:56:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16540; Wed, 7 Jun 95 18:56:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07200; Wed, 7 Jun 95 18:47:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07194; Wed, 7 Jun 95 18:47:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJWf6-00038EC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 18:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: HELP: pine not using FQDN for reply-to address? Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 09:27:02 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3ptdri$7be@noc2.drexel.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, david wrote: > On Wed, 24 May 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > > The most likely cause of this is a broken system configuration. In > > particular, it is very likely that your /etc/hosts has an entry that looks > > like > > 129.25.3.11 dunx1 dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu > > whereas the correct entry would be: > > 129.25.3.11 dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu dunx1 > Next solution please! Our hosts have the FQDN preceeding the node name > in /etc/hosts, yet the problem persists on the SunOS boxes but not on the > AIX boxes. I heard a rumor to the effect that this is a known bug in Solaris 2.3 and the fix is to upgrade to 2.4. This is apocryphical; our only Solaris box doesn't have a C compiler (and we avoid it anyway...). -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 19:09:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16827; Wed, 7 Jun 95 19:09:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17827; Wed, 7 Jun 95 18:57:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17821; Wed, 7 Jun 95 18:57:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJWoF-00038CC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 18:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Icewolf Subject: Re: return receipt Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 15:57:58 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: References: <3m3at8$l06@news.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3m3at8$l06@news.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: Hello Bob, On 7 Apr 1995, Bob Brody wrote: > I very much need to get return receipts or some manner of confirmation > of email received. just a short answer: Enter Pine's Setup -> go into Conifg -> enter at "customized-hdrs"=Return-Receipt-To:youremailadress Here on Unix-Pine it works fine and the most (UNIX-)machines answers right. Ciao Holger From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 19:25:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17136; Wed, 7 Jun 95 19:25:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07611; Wed, 7 Jun 95 19:17:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07605; Wed, 7 Jun 95 19:17:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJX8d-00038EC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 19:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" Subject: Re: Need a filter....? Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 18:17:05 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: I think procmail (or some similarly capable mail-filter program) would do a lot better than trying to hack up some script. I think there is a FAQ on "mail-server" software or such, where some are described. Zoli fekete@bc.edu (note my old full address @bcuxs2 is retired) "For my assured failures and derelictions, I ask pardon beforehand of my betters and my equals in my calling." - Rudyard Kipling From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 19:46:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17648; Wed, 7 Jun 95 19:46:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18388; Wed, 7 Jun 95 19:42:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18382; Wed, 7 Jun 95 19:42:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJXV1-00038CC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 19:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Boris Folgmann Subject: How to auto-move read mails into 'old' folder? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 13:24:59 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi! Of course I can Save them, but automatically it would be nice. My newsreader at home (AmigaOS) only shows new messages and all or last 100, 50, 25 if I wish. An auto-move (or save) would do it for pine. Optionally only for answered mails. See you, Boris PROXITY SOFTWORKS - Amiga Software Tools Phone: ++49-(0)7191-23439 Fax: ++49-(0)7191-2604 PGP: 82 84 70 38 26 5E 50 5A 9C DB CA CA 62 0A 31 52 Boris Folgmann - boris@prox.tynet.sub.org - 2:246/1416.41 Internet: prx@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de - IRC: PRX http://www.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/fachschaft/adressen/bsfolgma.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 20:06:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18143; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:06:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08250; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:03:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08244; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:02:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJXpT-00038CC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nc7rl@sol.ars-grin.gov (Richard Luhman) Subject: saving files to folders in mass Date: 6 Jun 1995 12:33:46 -0400 Message-Id: <3r201a$ble@sol.ars-grin.gov> Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to move all of the inbox files to a separate folder in mass (Using Unix Pine). Currently, I am using the S command to save each and every message. This is very tedious. -- Rick Luhman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 20:15:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18530; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:15:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08456; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:13:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08450; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:13:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJY07-00038EC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Richard Denison Subject: Creating a Sig Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 17:27:47 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Readers, I'm relatively new to the World of e-mail but having read a few letters I have noticed people have ended there messages with a signiture. I was wondering how do you go about creating one. Also is it possible to save messages that people have sent to you on floppy disc. If any one could help I would be most grateful. Thanks. >From Richard From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 20:16:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18561; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:16:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18809; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:13:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18803; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:12:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJXvl-00038CC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Thomas Olsson Subject: Pine and PGP ?? Date: 6 Jun 1995 17:02:39 GMT Message-Id: <3r21nf$2fd@bs33n.staffs.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hello Pine users, Is there anyone out there using PGP with Pine ? There is a hack for Elm which allows you to use PGP with it, but as we dont use Elm, the same for Pine would be nice. Any pointers/ideas would be highly appreciated, Cheers all, -- Thomas Olsson, Researcher http://www.soc.staffs.ac.uk/~cmrdto Staffordshire University EMail: D.T.Olsson@soc.staffs.ac.uk ** The moon is smaller then the earth, but further away ** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 20:42:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19150; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:42:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19185; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:38:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19179; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:38:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJYMB-00038EC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" Subject: Re: How to auto-move read mails into 'old' folder? Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 20:57:59 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Setup/Config read-message-folder=old-folder Zoli fekete@bc.edu (note my old full address @bcuxs2 is retired) "For my assured failures and derelictions, I ask pardon beforehand of my betters and my equals in my calling." - Rudyard Kipling From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 20:49:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19451; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:49:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08932; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:44:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08926; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:44:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJYQj-00038HC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ts4@piis10.joanneum.ac.at Date: 7 Jun 1995 20:36:17 GMT Message-Id: Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Status: O X-Status: Spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 20:51:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19497; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:51:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19282; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:48:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19276; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:48:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJYYD-00038HC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Bad message-ids (was PINE, please don't generate headers) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 20:31:23 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3qg9at$1l0@zeus.cuci.nl> <3qieue$lbh@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> <3qj2hv$1h9@zeus.cuci.nl> <3qleqh$spn@tools.near.net> <3qr9k8$hpi@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3r3n2i$plt@hustle.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3r3n2i$plt@hustle.rahul.net> Status: O X-Status: On 7 Jun 1995, Rahul Dhesi wrote: > Assuming this is a misconfiguration, and recalling earlier discussion, > we now have a list of two common misconfigurations: > > 1. gethostbyname() system call does not return fully-qualified domain > name. > 2. Mail transport agent does not correctly insert From: line and/or > message id. > > Pine goes to some trouble to work around 2, but not 1. I assume this > was a design decision. It would be interesting, useful, and > informative, to know why. I have always found it educational to > understand the reasoning behind decisions made by software designers. There is no good way to determine that (1) is a misconfiguration, as opposed to being a private TCP/IP network that isn't connected to Internet and does not use DNS. I speculate that there are many more TCP/IP machines that are not on Internet than those which are. If you just check to see if h_name doesn't have a dot, you'll get a false positive. You can try running down the h_alias list and seeing if any alias names have dots in them. But you'll get a false negative if the FQDN isn't in /etc/hosts. 3.92 is going to have some form of guess/warning, although I wouldn't be at all surprised if someone on a private net with a perfectly valid configuration gets bit and flames us. (2) is not a misconfiguration. It is perfectly valid according to the standards, which make it clear that the MUA is responsible for generating the From: and Message-ID: header. If sendmail on certain systems applies a From: and/or Message-ID:, it is acting as part of the MUA (not MTA). And, of course, all the world is not necessarily sendmail. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 21:09:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20138; Wed, 7 Jun 95 21:09:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09092; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:58:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09086; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:58:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJYfT-00038EC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: question about sent-mail folder Date: 6 Jun 1995 17:32:54 GMT Message-Id: <3r23g6$1868@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Simone Shoemaker wrote: >I notice that every time I send a message, it gets copied to a folder >called "sent mail". Is there any purpose behind this? Yep, there's a purpose. I often get mail from people whose email address I don't recognize, saying things like, "Yes, please do that for me." I scratched my head and (before Pine) had to reply to the message saying "I don't remember what mail I sent out that you are responding to." I've kept every piece of sent mail since April of 1989. I don't often have to look at them, but when I do, it can be a lifesaver, since it's obviously something I've totally forgotten and needed to write down. :) -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 21:19:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20387; Wed, 7 Jun 95 21:19:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19589; Wed, 7 Jun 95 21:08:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19583; Wed, 7 Jun 95 21:08:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJYpT-00038EC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 21:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: 3dprint@marlin.ssnet.com (3D Printing!) Subject: Re: autoreply with PINE (Systemn V) ??? Date: 3 Jun 1995 14:51:44 -0400 Message-Id: <3qqb00$8mt@marlin.ssnet.com> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Ralf Wenzel wrote: >Hi! > >I know, that elm has an autoreply-feature. We all know, that pine is the >better mailer, but is there any possibility to autoreply messages with pine? I also would like to know if I can selectively auto-reply based on the from field? Doug CHEERS! -- 3dprint@ssnet.com "Internet is as Internet does." http://ssnet.com/~3dprint -Gump Clan- |>. |\. <. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 21:26:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20576; Wed, 7 Jun 95 21:26:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09380; Wed, 7 Jun 95 21:14:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09374; Wed, 7 Jun 95 21:14:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJYtn-00038EC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 21:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: D & B Sales Subject: Need Help using Distribution list Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 11:57:34 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I want to post the same massage to several newsgroups at once. I think there is a way to do that using distribution lists in the address book. However, I can't get access to my address book when I'm on the newsgroups: line in the header. What am I doing wrong or is there another way of doing this? Thanks for reading and pleaseeee help if you can. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 21:44:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21151; Wed, 7 Jun 95 21:44:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19941; Wed, 7 Jun 95 21:38:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19935; Wed, 7 Jun 95 21:38:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJZI4-00038EC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 21:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Moshe Segal Subject: Legal status of Pc-Pine? Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 01:31:29 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I recently downloaded the MSDOS version of Pine (pcpine_f.zip. I don't have my own network, and access E-mail through my Unix account. The only reason I wanted it was for the DOS version of the Pico editor, to use as my message editor in conjunction with the Blue Wave Offline Mail Reader. Those word-processing programs I would have chosen are too big to fit in memory, and the two alternatives, TED3 (The editor that comes with BW) and MSDOS's editor do not support the word-wrap, which leves me to worry about new lines while losing my train of thought while I write. Now that I have it, this is my question: I saw no documentation, and no license or registration form. What status does PC-Pine have? And also, since I deleted all files except Pico.exe, what would be the legal difference. Even freeware usually has some stipulation, but I am unclear of what I am now expected to do. Please let me know. Thank you very much. You're not the only one who's made mistakes Moshe E. SEgal But they're the only things 1336 Cory Drive That you can truly call your own Dayton, Oh 45406 Some people hope for a miracle cure, s010mes@discover.wright.edu Some people just accept the world as it is. (513) 279-0438 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 7 21:53:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21531; Wed, 7 Jun 95 21:53:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09803; Wed, 7 Jun 95 21:44:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09797; Wed, 7 Jun 95 21:44:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJZNX-00038EC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 21:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: RLUHMAN@netins.net (Rick Luhman) Subject: pegasus to Unix conversion Date: Thu, 08 Jun 1995 01:06:43 GMT Message-Id: <3r5bpn$52j@insosf1.netins.net> Status: O X-Status: At my place of employment we have two mail systems. The first is pegasus on our Local Network. The second is Pine mail (UNIX) on a Sun computer. We do not have access to a SLIP or a PPP connection. We have about 15 hookups to the Sun through a pad. Is it possible to compose a message in pegasus, queue that message, convert it to a Unix format, upload the message to the Sun computer via kermit, and than send the message through internet mail? I know that this may be complicated procedure and may not be possible, but if I can somehow automate a procedure through a kermit script file we will have the ability to do all of our mail with one mail system. Rick Luhman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 00:34:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24929; Thu, 8 Jun 95 00:34:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21008; Wed, 7 Jun 95 23:09:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from fun.direct.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21002; Wed, 7 Jun 95 23:09:10 -0700 Received: from fun (fun [199.60.228.1]) by mail.direct.ca (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA26554; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 23:02:06 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 23:02:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "G. Graham" X-Sender: ggraham@fun To: Don Sugarman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HOW DO YOU WORK MIME? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: es please, mail me a copy. I'm usinf sunos Unix. Thanks...and if tghis helps you my own computer is a 386 sx On Wed, 7 Jun 1995, Don Sugarman wrote: > Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 20:00:51 -0400 (EDT) > From: Don Sugarman > To: Glenn Graham > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: HOW DO YOU WORK MIME? > > On Tue, 6 Jun 1995, Glenn Graham wrote: > > > Does anybody out there know how to take a mime file and > > make it readable using pine 3.91? > > > I presume you are receiving MIMEd attachments that are not recognized by > Pine as attachments. This could be because the sending mail user agent > (MUA) is not providing the necessary separator. > > Anyway, you can save the MIMEd file and decode it using munpack. If you > need a copy of munpack, let me know and I will email you a copy attached > to a Pine message. Let me know if you need the SUN Unix or DOS version. > > Don Sugarman > sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 00:38:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25030; Thu, 8 Jun 95 00:38:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21731; Thu, 8 Jun 95 00:22:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21725; Thu, 8 Jun 95 00:22:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJbqZ-00038EC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 00:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gregg Brekke Subject: can't send mail Date: 7 Jun 1995 03:35:26 GMT Message-Id: <3r36pu$8cu@genesis.member.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hi All, This is a really strange one. I admin about 10 UNIX systems running PINE 3.91 and on my main host (where I send and receive most mail) I all of the sudden can't send any mail via PINE. Other users on my system can send and receive mail, and I can still receive mail, but I can't send via pine. If I use Mail, mail, or elm, the messages are delivered as expected. I am using PC Eudora until I figure this out so please HELP! My system is a Sun IPX with Solaris 2.4. I am running sendmail 8.6.12 but have also tried using the sendmail that was included with Solaris 2.4. Like I said, other users on this system can send mail from PINE just fine... I'm at my end with this one. I've even tried setting up another account for myself to send from with no luck. This had been working forever, even with Sendmail 8.6.9 and 8.6.10 with no problems. Any advice will be appreciated, Gregg Brekke subZero Data Solutions, greggb@subZero.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 00:46:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25201; Thu, 8 Jun 95 00:46:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12015; Thu, 8 Jun 95 00:32:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12004; Thu, 8 Jun 95 00:32:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJc02-00038EC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 00:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: reichera@clark.net (A. Reichert) Subject: Re: Creating a Sig Date: 6 Jun 1995 19:26:40 GMT Message-Id: <3r2a5g$4vu@clarknet.clark.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: ...and following DearOldDad's post... To save messages, use the "Extract" command. Pine will then ask you for a filename, then save the message to that filename. You can then download and save on disk. Here is my .sigl file: ___________________________________________ | Alan Reichert - reichera@clark.net | | "Acrophobic Lighting Designer for Hire" | | Upcoming Project: "Living Together" | |-------------------------------------------| |http://www.clark.net/pub/reichera/home.html| |___________________________________________| Richard Denison (rmd2@coventry.ac.uk) wrote: : Readers, : I'm relatively new to the World of e-mail but having read a few letters I : have noticed people have ended there messages with a signiture. I was : wondering how do you go about creating one. Also is it possible to save : messages that people have sent to you on floppy disc. If any one could : help I would be most grateful. Thanks. : From Richard From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 01:29:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26337; Thu, 8 Jun 95 01:29:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12691; Thu, 8 Jun 95 01:16:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12685; Thu, 8 Jun 95 01:16:02 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:12:41 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA14740; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:17:28 +0100 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:17:28 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Boris Folgmann Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to auto-move read mails into 'old' folder? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Using Pine 3.91... >From the Main Menu go to the Setup Configuration screen by typing S then C. Set a name for the "read-message-folder" variable. Select the "auto-move-read-msgs" feature. Whilst you are playing around with Pine you might like to try and get a correct address stamped on your outgoing messages. I don't somehow think that this message is going to reach you directly using the "bsfolgma@track" address quoted on oyur original query! Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On Wed, 7 Jun 1995, Boris Folgmann wrote: > Hi! > > Of course I can Save them, but automatically it would be nice. > My newsreader at home (AmigaOS) only shows new messages and > all or last 100, 50, 25 if I wish. An auto-move (or save) would > do it for pine. Optionally only for answered mails. > > See you, > Boris > > > PROXITY SOFTWORKS - Amiga Software Tools > > Phone: ++49-(0)7191-23439 Fax: ++49-(0)7191-2604 > PGP: 82 84 70 38 26 5E 50 5A 9C DB CA CA 62 0A 31 52 > Boris Folgmann - boris@prox.tynet.sub.org - 2:246/1416.41 > Internet: prx@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de - IRC: PRX > http://www.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/fachschaft/adressen/bsfolgma.html > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 01:47:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26962; Thu, 8 Jun 95 01:47:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22587; Thu, 8 Jun 95 01:32:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22581; Thu, 8 Jun 95 01:32:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJcyx-00038EC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 01:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dorsett@treasure.coastalnet.com (Stephen Dorsett) Subject: help needed with procmail Date: 7 Jun 1995 16:53:28 -0400 Message-Id: <3r53k8$pba@abaco.coastalnet.com> Status: O X-Status: You're right. It ain't about pine. *however*, I did get the mail filtering FAQ which pointed me to procmail from the archive for this group. Close enuf ? Anywho, procmail does not want to work for me today. (never has, I'm setting it up now for the first time) In following the cookbook, it says to check the log file for messages. Good idea, except the specified logfile is not being created. I've tried several incantations and configurations for the .procmailrc and .forward file, to no avail. Has anyone else seen similar behavior ? It looks like .forward is not getting accessed. I've opened my home dir and .forward up, making everything searchable and executable. Our mail environment is vanilla SunOS 4.1.3_U1. Any hints ? TIA -- ======================================================================== Stephen Dorsett 1-800-514-5NET dorsett@coastalnet.com Wide Area Network Manager, GIEx Corp. http://www.eastnc.coastalnet.com ======================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 04:05:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00353; Thu, 8 Jun 95 04:05:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23935; Thu, 8 Jun 95 03:55:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from actcom.co.il by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23929; Thu, 8 Jun 95 03:55:13 -0700 Received: from galtronics.UUCP by actcom.co.il with UUCPgaltronics (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id NAA22594; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 13:39:00 +0300 (rfc931-sender: uucp@localhost) Received: by aviion.galtronics.co.il (5.4R2.10/ACTCOM-GALTRONICS-S-1.0) id AA00698; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 13:33:39 GMT Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 13:33:39 +0000 (GMT) From: Aladdin Khamis To: Stephen Dorsett Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help needed with procmail In-Reply-To: <3r53k8$pba@abaco.coastalnet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="2113929218-2078917053-802618419=:105" Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --2113929218-2078917053-802618419=:105 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 7 Jun 1995, Stephen Dorsett wrote: >You're right. It ain't about pine. *however*, I did get the mail >filtering FAQ which pointed me to procmail from the archive for >this group. Close enuf ? > >Anywho, procmail does not want to work for me today. (never has, I'm >setting it up now for the first time) In following the cookbook, >it says to check the log file for messages. Good idea, except the >specified logfile is not being created. > >I've tried several incantations and configurations for the .procmailrc >and .forward file, to no avail. Has anyone else seen similar behavior ? > >It looks like .forward is not getting accessed. I've opened my home dir >and .forward up, making everything searchable and executable. > >Our mail environment is vanilla SunOS 4.1.3_U1. > >Any hints ? > Hi Stephen, I attached for you three files: 1. rc.maillists you can look at the sample I made in it which suppose to filter all the incoming messages from pine-info mailing list. You have to make a directory in your home directory called ".procmail". 2. .forward is also a need file, place your user-name instead of user-name. 3. .procmailrc make sure procmail is in your path. if you are still confused write me back and I will try to be more clear. Al >TIA >-- >======================================================================== >Stephen Dorsett 1-800-514-5NET dorsett@coastalnet.com >Wide Area Network Manager, GIEx Corp. http://www.eastnc.coastalnet.com >======================================================================== > --2113929218-2078917053-802618419=:105 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="rc.maillists" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: OjA6DQoqIF5UT3BpbmUtaW5mbw0KSU4vSU4ucGluZS1pbmZvDQo= --2113929218-2078917053-802618419=:105 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=forward Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: InxJRlM9JyAnICYmIGV4ZWMgL3Vzci9sb2NhbC9iaW4vcHJvY21haWwgLWYt IHx8IGV4aXQgNzUgI3VzZXJuYW1lIg0K --2113929218-2078917053-802618419=:105 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=procmailrc Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: I1NldCBvbiB3aGVuIGRlYnVnZ2luZw0KVkVSQk9TRT1vZmYNCg0KI1JlcGxh Y2UgYG1haWwnIHdpdGggeW91ciBtYWlsIGRpcmVjdG9yeSAoUGluZSB1c2Vz IG1haWwsIEVsbSB1c2VzIE1haWwpDQpNQUlMRElSPSRIT01FL21haWwNCiAg ICAgDQojRGlyZWN0b3J5IGZvciBzdG9yaW5nIHByb2NtYWlsIGxvZyBhbmQg cmMgZmlsZXMNClBNRElSPSRIT01FLy5wcm9jbWFpbA0KICAgICANCkxPR0ZJ TEU9JFBNRElSL2xvZw0KI0lOQ0xVREVSQz0kUE1ESVIvcmMudGVzdGluZw0K SU5DTFVERVJDPSRQTURJUi9yYy5tYWlsbGlzdHMNCg== --2113929218-2078917053-802618419=:105-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 04:51:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01811; Thu, 8 Jun 95 04:51:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15480; Thu, 8 Jun 95 04:42:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15474; Thu, 8 Jun 95 04:42:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJfye-00038IC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 04:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kilty@netcom.com (Kathleen Richards) Subject: Re: Need a filter....? Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 05:36:09 GMT Status: O X-Status: Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq (fekete@chi3.bc.edu) wrote: : I think procmail (or some similarly capable mail-filter program) would do a : lot better than trying to hack up some script. I think there is a FAQ on : "mail-server" software or such, where some are described. Thank you kindly - where can I find information about procmail and is it something I am likely to find on netcom (if any other netcom people are reading this)? Thanks again .... While I am at it, where are the mail-server faqs stored/posted? Again thanks.... -- kathleen richards kilty@netcom.com "Soon anyone who's not on the World Wide Web will qualify for a government subsidy for the home-pageless." S. Adams, May 1995 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 05:31:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02948; Thu, 8 Jun 95 05:31:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25056; Thu, 8 Jun 95 05:17:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25050; Thu, 8 Jun 95 05:17:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJgSZ-00038EC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 05:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Problems printing-to-attached-printers Date: 6 Jun 1995 21:11:03 GMT Message-Id: <3r2g97$c3a@grape.epix.net> References: <3qreoh$bdf@grape.epix.net> Status: O X-Status: Bob Manson (manson@ecf.toronto.edu) wrote: : Do you have the "preserve-start-stop-characters" set in the SETUP : CONFIGURATION menu? Just a thought. : bob Yes, any other ideas ?? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 06:09:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03755; Thu, 8 Jun 95 06:09:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16439; Thu, 8 Jun 95 05:54:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16433; Thu, 8 Jun 95 05:54:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJh2M-00038CC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 05:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: customized-hdrs does not work ? Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 21:37:08 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 7 Jun 1995, Ian Russell Ollmann wrote: > The trick is that you have to hit ^R for Rich Hdr (cursor in the header > area) when composing a message in order to activate your extra header. My apologies. It appears that headers which have text after the colon such as what the original post proposed go out whether or not you hit ^R -- or at least that has been my experience this evening. ^R is only necessary if you put in a header but not text after it, such as Return-Receipt-To: rather than Return-Receipt-To: xx@yy.zz The first you would use (in conjunction with ^R) if you plan to get a receipt sometimes on specific pieces of mail in the future. The second you would set up, if you want *every* piece of mail that you send to send a receipt to xx@yy.zz. Please let me know if these are not the facts, as I don't want to spread any misinformation. Ian From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 06:45:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04431; Thu, 8 Jun 95 06:45:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15342; Thu, 8 Jun 95 04:31:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15336; Thu, 8 Jun 95 04:31:39 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id HAA14864; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 07:31:20 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id HAA18081; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 07:31:13 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA27219; Thu, 8 Jun 95 07:29:49 EDT Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 07:29:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: "G. Graham" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HOW DO YOU WORK MIME? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1915846483-91713412-802610986=:26858" Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1915846483-91713412-802610986=:26858 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 7 Jun 1995, G. Graham wrote: > es please, mail me a copy. I'm usinf sunos Unix. > Thanks...and iftghis helps you my own computer is a 386 sx > I've attached mpack and munpack (sun executables) and corresponding man pages. Since you are actually running on your Unix server, it doesn't matter that your own computer is a 386. Good luck. 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Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27025; Thu, 8 Jun 95 07:58:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJj12-00038CC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 07:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jcdst10+@pitt.edu (James C Deikun) Subject: Re: PINE, please don't generate headers Date: 7 Jun 1995 00:45:47 GMT Message-Id: <3r2srr$fq3@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> References: <3q5kll$5pa@ocean.CAM.ORG> <3qieue$lbh@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> <3qj2hv$1h9@zeus.cuci.nl> <3qle8h$1do@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <3qle8h$1do@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>, John Stanley wrote: >No, I do not have to parse anything. I am not simply looking for >illegal characters, I am removing them. The result is a valid message >id. It may not be the same message id, but I have a copy of the >incoming one, and either a copy of the outgoing or the ability to >recreate it, so it doesn't matter. If you're running a mail-news gateway, it'd better NOT be the same ID. In fact, you should be creating an entirely new one. If one message is sent to two or more mail-news gateways and goes through each one with message-id preserved, but to different newsgroups or sets of newsgroups, the multiple copies will interfere with each others' propagation. -- James "jk43h5kj24hk234jl42kl5243@unixs1.cis.pitt.edu" Deikun From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 08:24:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07208; Thu, 8 Jun 95 08:24:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18781; Thu, 8 Jun 95 08:18:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18775; Thu, 8 Jun 95 08:18:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJjJb-00038CC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 08:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mzc1@cus.cam.ac.uk (Maggie Carr) Subject: Printing message headers from index screen Date: 8 Jun 1995 14:26:24 GMT Message-Id: <3r71ag$9tl@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: Please could someone enlighten me on how to get the list of messages in a folder from the INDEX screen. I have looked but can't find it in the help info or the FAQ, but I can't believe it isn't possibl. Thanks. -------- Maggie Carr Computing Service, University of Cambridge, Pembroke St. Email: Maggie.Carr@ucs.cam.ac.uk _or_ mzc1@cam.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 08:35:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07697; Thu, 8 Jun 95 08:35:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27681; Thu, 8 Jun 95 08:28:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cgm.searnet.danville.ky.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27675; Thu, 8 Jun 95 08:28:41 -0700 Received: (from jdalzell@localhost) by CGM.SEARNET.COM (8.6.11/8.6.11) id LAA09891; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 11:21:43 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 11:21:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Jayme Dalzell To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Jayme Dalzell Subject: Pine Help Files Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Please forward to me the pine help files. I am having some difficulty posting to newsgroups. Thanks Jayme Dalzell jdalzell@searnet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 08:44:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08026; Thu, 8 Jun 95 08:44:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27938; Thu, 8 Jun 95 08:38:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27932; Thu, 8 Jun 95 08:38:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJjds-00038CC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 08:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dave Watson Subject: test do not read Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 12:12:25 GMT Status: O X-Status: This is a test please ignore dave From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 08:52:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08504; Thu, 8 Jun 95 08:52:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28047; Thu, 8 Jun 95 08:45:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28041; Thu, 8 Jun 95 08:45:11 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05170; Thu, 8 Jun 95 08:45:08 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 08:45:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Jonathan and DearOldDad Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problems printing-to-attached-printers In-Reply-To: <3r2g97$c3a@grape.epix.net> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: You might check with your local sysadmin and verify that the Unix you are using is configured to respect xon-xoff flow control. Some are not. -teg On 6 Jun 1995, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: > Bob Manson (manson@ecf.toronto.edu) wrote: > : Do you have the "preserve-start-stop-characters" set in the SETUP > : CONFIGURATION menu? Just a thought. > : bob > > Yes, any other ideas ?? > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 09:25:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10233; Thu, 8 Jun 95 09:25:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20283; Thu, 8 Jun 95 09:18:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20277; Thu, 8 Jun 95 09:18:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJkHe-00038CC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 09:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rfalanga@numex.unm.edu (Rod Falanga) Subject: Setting up a global addressbook. Date: 07 Jun 1995 13:49:31 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I am (by default) the PINE administrator. I've compiled PINE 3.91 and have made it available for our users to use. I'd like to know how I can set up a global addressbook, which will be looked at by any user, whenever they want to. Can this global addressbook be looked at by PINE at the same time that it looks at the user's local addressbook? This is all to take place on UNIX. Rod -- Rod Falanga | (voice) 505-841-2511 (FAX) 505-841-2543 Scientific Laboratory Division | rfalanga@numex.unm.edu P.O. Box 4700 | Albuquerque, NM 87196-4700 | The opinions expressed are mine alone. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 09:31:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10462; Thu, 8 Jun 95 09:31:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28995; Thu, 8 Jun 95 09:23:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28989; Thu, 8 Jun 95 09:23:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJkKh-00038CC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 09:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pisati@app.lacd.dsi.unimi.it (pisati stefano) Subject: Header Date: 8 Jun 1995 15:55:48 GMT Message-Id: <3r76i4$4o2@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it> Status: O X-Status: Hi, I want to configure pine to put on header some info like this: X-Organiazation: Department of Computer Science, University of Milan, ITALY X-Phone: +39 2 55006 362 X-Pgp-Key-ID : 3E241F7D X-Pgp-Key-Fingerprint: F9 E8 9B 27 FE A7 C9 C0 20 F5 50 04 F6 7E B8 34 On elm is only necessary to have the file elmheaders... with pine ??? TIA Stefano Pisati From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 09:33:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10567; Thu, 8 Jun 95 09:33:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20435; Thu, 8 Jun 95 09:23:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20429; Thu, 8 Jun 95 09:23:54 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05894; Thu, 8 Jun 95 09:23:51 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:23:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Nancy McGough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: reading mail in PC, possible? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Nancy, PC-Pine is currently most comfortable having a network connection (used for remote folder access, authentication before sending, and actually sending). As you've heard before, true offline support will be coming in a future release. In the meantime, *if* you configure PC-Pine to have a local folder collection (as the first one listed), then you can use the -f flag to open that folder without PC-Pine trying to access the remote inbox over the net. In the future there will be a way to access a *local* folder even when the default folder collection is specified to be on a remote server. -teg On 31 May 1995, Nancy McGough wrote: > Paul O Bartlett writes: > >On Sat, 27 May 1995, Special Weapons And Tactics wrote: > >> Is that posssible to read the folders in PC like reading it in > >> pine. [...] > > > >Just download the one you want to your PC and read it with > >your favorite editor or file viewer. > > And possible choices for viewing the folders on your PC are PC-Pine > for DOS and PS-Pine for Windows, which are available from: > > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine > > I think that in order to use these to view a folder on your PC you > need to be connected to the Net - does anyone know if that's true? > > Thanks, > Nancy > > -- > /\_/\ @..@ Please make sure your host gets the /\_/\ > ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) new humanities.* newsgroups. Info ( o.o ) > > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) is at http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 10:29:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12871; Thu, 8 Jun 95 10:29:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21903; Thu, 8 Jun 95 10:23:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21897; Thu, 8 Jun 95 10:23:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJlEK-00038EC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 10:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: customized-hdrs does not work ? Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 21:01:43 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3r1fce$odp@hahn.informatik.hu-berlin.de> Status: O X-Status: On 6 Jun 1995, Stefan Hougardy wrote: > > Hello, > I set customized-hdrs=Return-Receipt-To: xx@yy.zz > in the .pinerc file, but it is ignored. I am using pine 3.89. > Is this option not available in this version ? Or do I have > to set any additional options ? Thanks for your help. > Stefan The trick is that you have to hit ^R for Rich Hdr (cursor in the header area) when composing a message in order to activate your extra header. Note that I have (temporarily) added above the extra nonsense header, Random-Hdr: Gratuitous Text to illustrate this point, although if you look carefully, you may notice a few others above. (I am curious to see if anything will go wrong, actually.) You can either install it as you have done, or do it through Setup/Config in the main menu of pine. Either way works fine. Good Luck! Ian From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 10:44:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13556; Thu, 8 Jun 95 10:44:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22211; Thu, 8 Jun 95 10:35:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22205; Thu, 8 Jun 95 10:35:24 -0700 Received: (from mckay@localhost) by mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA28427; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 13:36:30 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 13:36:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Muriel McKay Subject: Re: Beam and Whiteside MS-Windows/TCP-IP (fwd) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: J.Goldberg@cranfield.ac.uk In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: We use BW tcp/ip at McMaster . I installed pine3.0 (windowish version) without problem as I recall last summer . I did have a problem with previous dos versions of pcpine (going by my memory here). It had to do with BW software not vacating the tcpip stack when it was finished and perhaps pcpine needing to use the it but couldn't cos BW was still there . I had this with pcdos gopher clients too. The windows pcpine works ( 3.90) fine with BW version 3.0c (I think current BW version is 3.2 ) . Can't speak for Pine 3.91 PC/windows Hope this helps . > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Wed, 07 Jun 1995 13:21:49 BST > Subject: Beam and Whiteside MS-Windows/TCP-IP > > I would like to install Pine in an MS-Windows environment using > "Beam and Whiteside" TCP/IP. > > (a) Has any one done this? > (b) Is it possible? > (c) can I use a compiled pcpine_?.zip or do I need to compile my own? > (d) if the former, which pcpine_?.zip do I get. > (e) if I need to recompile, what advice can you give? > (f) Is there a Pine FAQ (I didn't check rtfm, but I did look > on what I hope is a local mirror (src.doc.ic.ac.uk). > > Thanks. > > -- > Jeffrey Goldberg > Email: J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk > WWW: > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 11:05:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14640; Thu, 8 Jun 95 11:05:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01221; Thu, 8 Jun 95 10:58:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01215; Thu, 8 Jun 95 10:58:45 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07863; Thu, 8 Jun 95 10:58:40 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 10:58:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Ian Russell Ollmann Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: vacation feature - ATTN Pine Development In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Ian, We are interested in this problem, but the solution needs to encompass client-server email architectures as well as single-host environments. Since there are no protocol standards specifically for this function, we need to decide whether to try to pervert IMSP or IMAP for this use, or use email robot servers, or use X.500, or "something completely different". -teg On Tue, 6 Jun 1995, Ian Russell Ollmann wrote: > > > On Tue, 6 Jun 1995, Ralf Wenzel wrote: > > > I hope that anyone can help me, from elm i know the 'autoreply'-feature, > > that will answere mails with an defined (defined means defined by the > > user e. g. when he's on holiday) text if set. Is there a feature like this > > implicated in pine? > > Not that it is a problem to answer the above question when it is asked, > but this question *is* asked an awful lot. Maybe it is time for pine to > interface with vaction like it does with spell and the various other bits > of unix which it is uses to do its daily work of sending and receiving > mail. Would Pine Development consider this an unknowing feature request > from all of those people who wrote in questions just like this one over > the years? > > > Ian Ollmann > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 11:32:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15988; Thu, 8 Jun 95 11:32:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01777; Thu, 8 Jun 95 11:23:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01768; Thu, 8 Jun 95 11:23:47 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02457; Thu, 8 Jun 95 11:23:43 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 11:23:35 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Moshe Segal Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Legal status of Pc-Pine? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Pine and Pico are freely distributable and usable. The stipulations are basically to respect the University of Washington's Copyrights and Trademarks on Pine and Pico.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 24 May 1995, Moshe Segal wrote: > I recently downloaded the MSDOS version of Pine (pcpine_f.zip. I don't > have my own network, and access E-mail through my Unix account. The only > reason I wanted it was for the DOS version of the Pico editor, to use as > my message editor in conjunction with the Blue Wave Offline Mail Reader. > Those word-processing programs I would have chosen are too big to fit in > memory, and the two alternatives, TED3 (The editor that comes with BW) > and MSDOS's editor do not support the word-wrap, which leves me to worry > about new lines while losing my train of thought while I write. > > Now that I have it, this is my question: I saw no documentation, and no > license or registration form. What status does PC-Pine have? And also, > since I deleted all files except Pico.exe, what would be the legal > difference. Even freeware usually has some stipulation, but I am unclear > of what I am now expected to do. Please let me know. Thank you very much. > > > You're not the only one who's made mistakes Moshe E. SEgal > But they're the only things 1336 Cory Drive > That you can truly call your own Dayton, Oh 45406 > > Some people hope for a miracle cure, s010mes@discover.wright.edu > Some people just accept the world as it is. (513) 279-0438 > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL9dALN/IU4uTDdHNAQF+qwH/SZkk4fnqh3DOfJJVgetsUgc19JaK6AHd guZYQLa9yAB3aF8rOsKuWJVpvdbSc4nqXJzTPNZiY1B5v118VyAF+Q== =a9rM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 11:38:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16360; Thu, 8 Jun 95 11:38:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01900; Thu, 8 Jun 95 11:28:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01894; Thu, 8 Jun 95 11:28:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJmFW-00038DC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 11:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Elliott Subject: new newsgroups Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 22:18:07 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: When I use programme 'tin' for newsgroups it lets me know any new groups and whether I want to subscribe to them. Can I turn a similar feature on in 'pine' ?. +---------------------------------------+ | John Elliott RMIT AUSTRALIA | | t9456079@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au | | Amateur VK3CVF | +---------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 11:49:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16956; Thu, 8 Jun 95 11:49:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24062; Thu, 8 Jun 95 11:43:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24056; Thu, 8 Jun 95 11:43:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJmVy-00038CC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 11:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: emre@millenium.texas.net (Emre Brookes) Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 on Wyse 50 terminals ? Date: 7 Jun 1995 15:05:28 GMT Message-Id: <3r4f7o$838@empire.texas.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Austin Adamson - IS (austina@bookstore) wrote: : Pine does not repaint the screen correctly and none of the keys : seem to work correctly. The arrow keys will not move around in the menus : or do what they are supposed to do. I have the same problem. I think it's the fact that wy50 have a problem with reverse video (It takes up a character space to turn it on and off). I need to get this working also. -- emre@texas.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 12:31:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18812; Thu, 8 Jun 95 12:31:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03136; Thu, 8 Jun 95 12:20:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03130; Thu, 8 Jun 95 12:20:13 -0700 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA18710; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 12:19:59 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 12:19:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 on Wyse 50 terminals ? To: Emre Brookes Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <3r4f7o$838@empire.texas.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 7 Jun 1995, Emre Brookes wrote: > Austin Adamson - IS (austina@bookstore) wrote: > : Pine does not repaint the screen correctly and none of the keys > : seem to work correctly. The arrow keys will not move around in the menus > : or do what they are supposed to do. > > I have the same problem. I think it's the fact that wy50 have a problem > with reverse video (It takes up a character space to turn it on and off). > I need to get this working also. Have you had a look at: --- #!/bin/sh wpinesetup(){ echo "\nSetting up Wyse arrow and function keys..." # Next/Prev Page echo "\033Z1r \0177\c" echo "\033Z1w-\0177\c" # Char/Line delete echo "\033Z15\04\0177\c" echo "\033Z16\013\0177\c" # Arrow keys echo "\033Z1+\033[A\0177\c" echo "\033Z1,\033[B\0177\c" echo "\033Z1.\033[C\0177\c" echo "\033Z1-\033[D\0177\c" echo "Done\n" } wpinereset() { echo "\nResetting standard Wyse arrow/function keys..." #t/Prev Page echo "\033Z1r\0177\c" echo "\033Z1w\0177\c" # Char/Line delete echo "\033Z15\0177\c" echo "\033Z16\0177\c" # Arrow keys echo "\033Z1+\0177\c" echo "\033Z1.\0177\c" echo "\033Z1,\0177\c" echo "\033Z1-\0177\c" echo "Done.\n" } if [ "$TERM" != "wyse50" ] then /local/bin/pine1 $* clear exit fi trap wpinereset 0 1 2 3 15 wpinesetup /local/bin/pine1 $* wpinereset clear exit ---------------- if you have any questions....I MIGHT be able to help, although I am just a modifier of the script..someone else did the key figuring. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/---------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 12:35:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18943; Thu, 8 Jun 95 12:35:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03317; Thu, 8 Jun 95 12:28:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03311; Thu, 8 Jun 95 12:28:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJnDT-00038CC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 12:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Sent-mail folder Date: 8 Jun 1995 18:54:43 GMT Message-Id: <3r7h1j$bsn@grape.epix.net> References: <3r5gjp$m5@hecate.umd.edu> Status: O X-Status: Weis - Ellen (eweis@yorick.umd.edu) wrote: : What di the letters D, A, and N stand for when they are found next to : messages in the sent-mail folder? D=marked to (D)elete A=you Answered it (R)eplied N=New message (you haven't read, (V)iewed it) /\ /~~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\/\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\| Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH /_/__\/_/___/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|__ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 14:28:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23533; Thu, 8 Jun 95 14:28:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05661; Thu, 8 Jun 95 14:24:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05655; Thu, 8 Jun 95 14:24:36 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06269; Thu, 8 Jun 95 14:24:33 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 14:24:24 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jim Anderson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: imap Windows client available? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- PC-Pine for Windows is available, but it is not a full Windows App. Also look at the list in ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.software |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 31 May 1995, Jim Anderson wrote: > Is there a Pine for Windows yet? If not, are there any MS/Windows > clients available? > > Thanks. > -- > Jim Anderson > Consultant-at-large > jander@panix.com > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL9dqjt/IU4uTDdHNAQHK2AH/Uhig2i9iTDh7kdtqv4/QaK0EzmaRSPWI 42k3GCtF7xdqh03OimpZ07JHQsb22grXhYD/P3pbQC9X1RQM4iz5Cg== =kH3n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 15:16:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25845; Thu, 8 Jun 95 15:16:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06607; Thu, 8 Jun 95 15:12:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [199.126.179.100] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06601; Thu, 8 Jun 95 15:12:56 -0700 Received: by ssltd.systemetrix.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA46487; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 18:14:50 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 18:14:50 -0400 From: don@systemetrix.ca (Don Laidlaw) Reply-To: Don Laidlaw Message-Id: <9506082214.AA46487@ssltd.systemetrix.ca> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine hanging Status: O X-Status: Does anyone know how to solve this problem? Pine V3.91 on my IBM RS/6000 with AIX V3.2.5 is hanging while writing the fcc. I get the "Writing fcc..." status message, then it just hangs. I eventually have to kill the process. It also hangs when I attempt to save a message. I tried deleting all my config stuff (.pinerc) but that did not help. Also, it only happens to my user id! And it just started happening during the middle of a normal day. No recompiles or anything like that happened. I don't have any of the fancy mailbox stuff set up and have all the folders in my /home/don/mail directory. There is no network access of folders defined. Your input is greatly appreciated. -Don don@systemetrix.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 15:16:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25863; Thu, 8 Jun 95 15:16:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28676; Thu, 8 Jun 95 15:09:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28670; Thu, 8 Jun 95 15:09:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJpjI-00038CC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 15:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rahul Dhesi Subject: Re: Bad message-ids (was PINE, please don't generate headers) Date: 7 Jun 1995 08:13:06 GMT Message-Id: <3r3n2i$plt@hustle.rahul.net> References: <3qg9at$1l0@zeus.cuci.nl> <3qieue$lbh@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> <3qj2hv$1h9@zeus.cuci.nl> <3qleqh$spn@tools.near.net> <3qr9k8$hpi@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: In Mark Crispin writes: >The problem is that many systems are misconfigured; .... >The single most >common misconfiguration is an entry in /etc/hosts for the local system >which puts the non-FQDN first. Assuming this is a misconfiguration, and recalling earlier discussion, we now have a list of two common misconfigurations: 1. gethostbyname() system call does not return fully-qualified domain name. 2. Mail transport agent does not correctly insert From: line and/or message id. A possible attempt to work around misconfiguration 1 would be: if (host name does not contain a dot) and (userdomain is defined) then append a dot and userdomain to host name end if The code needed to work around 2 must be more complex than that. Pine goes to some trouble to work around 2, but not 1. I assume this was a design decision. It would be interesting, useful, and informative, to know why. I have always found it educational to understand the reasoning behind decisions made by software designers. -- Rahul Dhesi "please ignore Dhesi" -- Mark Crispin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 16:43:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29012; Thu, 8 Jun 95 16:43:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08291; Thu, 8 Jun 95 16:39:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08285; Thu, 8 Jun 95 16:39:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJr7y-00038CC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 16:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zmz@cco.caltech.edu (Steven Zhou) Subject: Auto Foward and Archiving Mails between Two Unix Account: HOW? Date: 8 Jun 1995 19:35:43 GMT Message-Id: <3r7jef$a98@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Status: O X-Status: I have two unix accounts, and want to forward all the incoming and outgoing mails from one account to the other automatically whenever the new mail is arrived or sent. How can I accomplish this through either unix shell scripting or pine/sendmail command? Please help. Preferablly, some sample code will be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Steven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 17:00:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29621; Thu, 8 Jun 95 17:00:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01079; Thu, 8 Jun 95 16:55:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01073; Thu, 8 Jun 95 16:55:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJrMB-00038HC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 16:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Boris Folgmann Subject: No catchup for newsgroups? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 15:18:01 GMT Status: O X-Status: How can I do that with Pine? See you, Boris PROXITY SOFTWORKS - Amiga Software Tools Phone: ++49-(0)7191-23439 Fax: ++49-(0)7191-2604 PGP: 82 84 70 38 26 5E 50 5A 9C DB CA CA 62 0A 31 52 Boris Folgmann - boris@prox.tynet.sub.org - 2:246/1416.41 Internet: prx@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de - IRC: PRX http://www.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/fachschaft/adressen/bsfolgma.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 17:05:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00448; Thu, 8 Jun 95 17:05:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08645; Thu, 8 Jun 95 16:59:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08639; Thu, 8 Jun 95 16:59:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJrRy-00038EC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 16:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Need a filter....? Date: 8 Jun 1995 23:46:32 GMT Message-Id: <3r824o$8lo@news1.wolfe.net> References: Status: O X-Status: kilty@netcom.com (Kathleen Richards) writes: >Thank you kindly - where can I find information about procmail and >is it something I am likely to find on netcom (if any other netcom >people are reading this)? Thanks again .... The Filtering Mail FAQ is accessible from: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/writing.html I don't know if Netcom has procmail installed, but I'd like to find out so please let us know. Thanks, Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 17:33:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01196; Thu, 8 Jun 95 17:33:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01888; Thu, 8 Jun 95 17:29:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01881; Thu, 8 Jun 95 17:29:27 -0700 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA14596; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 17:29:24 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 17:29:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: pine3.91 on DG/UX 5.4R3.10 To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Has anyone compiled this? 3.89 wasn't quite so difficult. Suggestions? B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/---------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 18:37:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02830; Thu, 8 Jun 95 18:37:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02943; Thu, 8 Jun 95 18:33:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02937; Thu, 8 Jun 95 18:33:31 -0700 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA15267; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 18:33:28 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 18:33:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: pine on dgux 5.4R3.10 To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: After digging around a little more, I found the d-g port (duh!), although it was reporting an error (didn't know the size of times) in osdep.c I simply added #include to the top of the os_d-g.h header file, and all went well. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/---------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 21:27:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06823; Thu, 8 Jun 95 21:27:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05456; Thu, 8 Jun 95 21:25:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05450; Thu, 8 Jun 95 21:25:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJvcj-00038CC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 21:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shields@tembel.org (Michael Shields) Subject: Re: Bad message-ids (was PINE, please don't generate headers) Date: 9 Jun 1995 03:09:02 -0000 Message-Id: <3r8e0e$o6j@yage.tembel.org> References: <3qg9at$1l0@zeus.cuci.nl> <3r3n2i$plt@hustle.rahul.net> Status: O X-Status: In article , Mark Crispin wrote: > (2) is not a misconfiguration. It is perfectly valid according to the > standards, which make it clear that the MUA is responsible for generating > the From: and Message-ID: header. Where? -- Shields. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 21:54:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07655; Thu, 8 Jun 95 21:54:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12591; Thu, 8 Jun 95 21:50:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12585; Thu, 8 Jun 95 21:50:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJvwY-00038CC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 21:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: caton@gx2.uk.mdis.com (Russell Caton) Subject: Disabling Setup on Menu Date: 8 Jun 1995 08:06:13 GMT Message-Id: <3r6b1l$g0n@gate.uk.mdis.com> Status: O X-Status: Hi, I wish to remove the setup option from the pine main menu (3.91). If the answer to this is in an FAQ, please mail me the location of the FAQ Thank You, Russsell... -- *-----------------------------------------------------------------------------* |Russell Caton e-mail rcatton@uk.mdis.com | |Voice +44 1454 624172 Fax +44 1454 624242 | *-----------------------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 22:30:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08589; Thu, 8 Jun 95 22:30:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06428; Thu, 8 Jun 95 22:25:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06422; Thu, 8 Jun 95 22:25:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJwHl-00038EC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 22:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Randy Jay Yarger Subject: IBM or listserv to UNIX conversion? Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 00:33:25 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I'm looking for something that will convert Listserv mail logs and other IBMish mail files to standard Unix mail that can be read in as a folder in Pine. Does such a beast exist? Thanks, Randy Jay Yarger | Department of Physics, Michigan State University randy@hs1.hst.msu.edu | http://hs1.hst.msu.edu/randy/randy.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 22:31:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08613; Thu, 8 Jun 95 22:31:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13045; Thu, 8 Jun 95 22:25:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13039; Thu, 8 Jun 95 22:25:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJwTw-00038MC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 22:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Bad message-ids (was PINE, please don't generate headers) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 18:31:54 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3qg9at$1l0@zeus.cuci.nl> <3r3n2i$plt@hustle.rahul.net> <3r7hc3$ou7@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3r7hc3$ou7@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 8 Jun 1995, John Stanley wrote: > >There is no good way to determine that (1) is a misconfiguration, as > >opposed to being a private TCP/IP network that isn't connected to Internet > >and does not use DNS. > > It isn't really a question of using DNS or not. It is a question of > whether the network uses a domain name or not. This distinction is unimportant. The only reason for using a domain format name without using DNS is a future expectation of using DNS. > And private networks are > quite capable of having a domain name. It is a good policy to HAVE such > a name, for the day when the network is no longer isolated from the net. This is irrelevant. Whether or not it is "good policy", it is perfectly valid for a private network not to use domain names. It is much more typical for a private network to be domainless, no matter what you or I may feel about "good policy". > Since the problem is one of message id's that show up in news, then > saying "the network isn't connected" is incorrect. News has nothing to do with this. Anyway, you don't use Pine for news, so it shouldn't bother you. Certain individuals claimed (incorrectly) that a message ID without a FQDN was invalid, and (correctly) that such a message ID was more likely to have false matches. It is one thing to say that a system on a domain-using network is misconfigured if the FQDN is not returned by gethostbyname(). It is quite another to say that it is misconfigured if the FQDN isn't a meaningful concept. > >3.92 is going to have some form of guess/warning, although I wouldn't be > >at all surprised if someone on a private net with a perfectly valid > >configuration gets bit and flames us. > And then you tell them to set their domain name. In a domainless private network, that is about as meaningful as saying "and then you tell them to blurdybloop the sarasoop". -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 22:48:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09037; Thu, 8 Jun 95 22:48:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06747; Thu, 8 Jun 95 22:45:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06741; Thu, 8 Jun 95 22:45:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJwpP-00038CC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 22:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jpyne@midland.co.nz (Jonathan Pyne) Subject: Where do I find Pine Date: 8 Jun 1995 05:13:12 GMT Message-Id: <3r60t8$at4@news.midland.co.nz> Status: O X-Status: Hi, can anyone tell me where I am able to get a copy of Pine for Unix. Any ftp sites? I just need to know where I can get it from not what version of Unix it requires. Thanks in advance Jonathan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 23:29:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09941; Thu, 8 Jun 95 23:29:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07286; Thu, 8 Jun 95 23:25:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07280; Thu, 8 Jun 95 23:25:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJxT8-00038EC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 23:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: marlman@netcom.com (Andrew Halvorsen) Subject: Re: Need a filter....? Message-Id: References: <3r824o$8lo@news1.wolfe.net> Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 02:56:37 GMT Status: O X-Status: Nancy McGough (nancym@ii.com) wrote: > kilty@netcom.com (Kathleen Richards) writes: > >Thank you kindly - where can I find information about procmail and > >is it something I am likely to find on netcom (if any other netcom > >people are reading this)? Thanks again .... > The Filtering Mail FAQ is accessible from: > http://www.jazzie.com/ii/writing.html > I don't know if Netcom has procmail installed, but I'd like to find out > so please let us know. Yes they do, but as I understand it, if you want to use it with Pine you have to use it through an elm filter. -- Andrew W. Halvorsen marlman@netcom.com http://banana.netcom.com/ Coming soon: banana servers on a DECSYSTEM-20 machine running TOPS-20 GO -d+ H s+:+ g- p? au+ a- w+ !v C+++ U+>+++ P- L 3- E--- N++++ K- W--- M+ V-- -po+ Y t+ 5-- j-- R G tv+++ b+++ D++ B--- e u--- h! f x+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 8 23:31:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09989; Thu, 8 Jun 95 23:31:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13675; Thu, 8 Jun 95 23:25:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13669; Thu, 8 Jun 95 23:25:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sJxRS-00038CC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 23:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccsks@mucc.mahidol.ac.th (Somkiat Kosolsombat - CC) Subject: Global Addressbook Date: 8 Jun 1995 18:30:15 GMT Message-Id: <3r7fjn$h2s@mars.mahidol.ac.th> Status: O X-Status: Dear all, How to set the global addressbook in version 3.89 and version 3.91. TIA, kiat From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 01:08:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12411; Fri, 9 Jun 95 01:08:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14753; Fri, 9 Jun 95 01:02:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14747; Fri, 9 Jun 95 01:02:47 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 9 Jun 1995 08:58:46 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA02060; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 09:03:31 +0100 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 09:03:31 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: ypisati stefano Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Header In-Reply-To: <3r76i4$4o2@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: [A little bit of an adventuring spirit would have led you in the right direction assuming you're using Pine 3.91...] If you have Pine 3.91 the Main Menu clearly shows a "Setup" option (S). Using this then lets you alter the Configuration (C). There are lots of interesting items in this screen that can be altered to affect Pine's behaviour. In particular one is called "customized-hdrs". If you put your cursor on this item and ask for help by typing "?" (it's on the menu at the bottom of the screen) you'll be told about what it's for, how to use it, and how to include a value for any extra headers you add. Any headers you add like this will not normally be shown to you when composing a message (but they ARE setup nevertheless). To see/alter them type Ctrl/R with your cursor in the header section of the message. Alternatively you can set up which headers you normally want to see (the default headers), again in the Setup Configuration screen. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On 8 Jun 1995, pisati stefano wrote: > Hi, I want to configure pine to put on header some info like this: > > X-Organiazation: Department of Computer Science, University of Milan, ITALY > X-Phone: +39 2 55006 362 > X-Pgp-Key-ID : 3E241F7D > X-Pgp-Key-Fingerprint: F9 E8 9B 27 FE A7 C9 C0 20 F5 50 04 F6 7E B8 34 > > On elm is only necessary to have the file elmheaders... with pine ??? > > TIA > > Stefano Pisati > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 01:24:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12832; Fri, 9 Jun 95 01:24:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08782; Fri, 9 Jun 95 01:14:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08774; Fri, 9 Jun 95 01:14:07 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 9 Jun 1995 09:10:12 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA02875; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 09:15:00 +0100 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 09:15:00 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Boris Folgmann Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: No catchup for newsgroups? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: In the Setup Configuration screen (S then C from Pine 3.91's Main Menu) turn on the "enable-aggregate-command-set" option. Go back to your news index. Then type: ;AAD This means Select (;) All messages (A) and Apply (A) a Delete (D) command to them. Note that Select also allows you to choose messages by other criteria. Also there is a "Z" (Zoom) command which hides unselected messages from the list, allowing you to concentrate on those you have picked. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On Thu, 8 Jun 1995, Boris Folgmann wrote: > How can I do that with Pine? > > See you, > Boris > > > PROXITY SOFTWORKS - Amiga Software Tools > > Phone: ++49-(0)7191-23439 Fax: ++49-(0)7191-2604 > PGP: 82 84 70 38 26 5E 50 5A 9C DB CA CA 62 0A 31 52 > Boris Folgmann - boris@prox.tynet.sub.org - 2:246/1416.41 > Internet: prx@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de - IRC: PRX > http://www.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/fachschaft/adressen/bsfolgma.html > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 01:31:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13267; Fri, 9 Jun 95 01:31:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14952; Fri, 9 Jun 95 01:17:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14946; Fri, 9 Jun 95 01:17:29 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 9 Jun 1995 09:13:59 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA03312; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 09:18:31 +0100 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 09:18:31 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Russell Caton Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Disabling Setup on Menu In-Reply-To: <3r6b1l$g0n@gate.uk.mdis.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: In the system-side configuration file (probably the "fixed" one that users can't override) include the "disable-config-cmd" feature in the feature-list variable's list of values. You may also want to consider some of the following too: disable-keyboard-lock-cmd disable-password-cmd disable-update-cmd Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On 8 Jun 1995, Russell Caton wrote: > Hi, I wish to remove the setup option from the pine main menu (3.91). > > If the answer to this is in an FAQ, please mail me the location of the FAQ > > Thank You, > > Russsell... > > -- > *-----------------------------------------------------------------------------* > |Russell Caton e-mail rcatton@uk.mdis.com | > |Voice +44 1454 624172 Fax +44 1454 624242 | > *-----------------------------------------------------------------------------* > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 03:07:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15396; Fri, 9 Jun 95 03:07:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15987; Fri, 9 Jun 95 03:00:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15981; Fri, 9 Jun 95 03:00:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sK0pW-00038CC; Fri, 9 Jun 95 02:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: peter@nmti.com (Peter da Silva) Subject: Re: PINE, please don't generate headers Message-Id: References: <3q5kll$5pa@ocean.CAM.ORG> <3qle8h$1do@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> <3r2srr$fq3@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <3r5093$227@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 21:06:58 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <3r5093$227@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>, John Stanley wrote: > In article <3r2srr$fq3@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>, > James C Deikun wrote: > >In fact, you should be creating an entirely new one. If one message > >is sent to two or more mail-news gateways and goes through each one > >with message-id preserved, but to different newsgroups or sets of > >newsgroups, the multiple copies will interfere with each others' > >propagation. > Just as if someone posted the same article to two different newsgroups > from two different servers with the same message id. Which is something that takes a deliberate effort to do, as opposed to sending a message to two mailing lists that have gateways which is very easy to do accidentally. -- Peter da Silva (NIC: PJD2) `-_-' Network Management Technology Incorporated 'U` 1601 Industrial Blvd. Sugar Land, TX 77478 USA +1 713 274 5180 "Har du kramat din varg idag?" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 03:14:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15580; Fri, 9 Jun 95 03:14:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16075; Fri, 9 Jun 95 03:06:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16055; Fri, 9 Jun 95 03:05:19 -0700 Received: from makayg (makayg.math.jate.u-szeged.hu) by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA01951; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 12:03:33 +0200 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 12:03:33 +0200 Message-Id: <9506091003.AA01951@sol.cc.u-szeged.hu> X-Sender: makayg@sol.cc.u-szeged.hu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: makayg@math.u-szeged.hu (Geza Makay) Subject: I have running Pine3.91 for SCO X-Mailer: Content-Length: 1321 Status: O X-Status: Hello everyone, I have a running version of the Pine version 3.91, although I did not test everything in it. It has been compiled by gcc that can be found on the CD that you can request from SCO free of charge. You need to make only small changes to the source code of the Pine in order to make it compile. If some of you would like, I can send you the binaries (pine and pico, I am not using anything else) in uuencoded format in e-mail. I am not a member of this list, so send me a direct mail. Geza Makay ************************************************************************ * Name: Geza Makay * * Institute: Attila Jozsef University of Szeged * * Mail: Bolyai Institute, Aradi vertanuk tere 1. * * H-6720, Szeged, Hungary * * Tel: (62) 310-011/3707 (Hungary's code: 36) * * Fax/Message: (62) 326-246 (Hungary's code: 36) * * E-mail: makayg@math.u-szeged.hu, j61b002@huszeg11.bitnet * ************************************************************************ * "To err is human, but to really mess things up you need a computer." * ************************************************************************ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 03:45:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16223; Fri, 9 Jun 95 03:45:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10551; Fri, 9 Jun 95 03:30:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10545; Fri, 9 Jun 95 03:30:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sK1GE-00038CC; Fri, 9 Jun 95 03:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ben T. Feese" Subject: Re: HELP WITH POST TO CURRENT MESSAGE Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 18:50:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 7 Jun 1995, Ian Russell Ollmann wrote: snip snip snip snip > Mine, for example, just seems to count the number of lines starting with > ">" and compares it with the number of lines that don't. A common dodge is > to replace all of those little ">" with something else like ":" or ";". > Some people have gone so far as to hack the pine code to make this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > automatic. Hopefully, this will solve your problem. ^^^^^^^^^^ > Any suggestions on how to do this? Is there a "find-and-replace" function in pine's editor, pico? -btf ============================================================================= Ben T. Feese Professor of Biology Biochemistry/Molecular Biology Program Centre College, Danville, KY 40422 (USA) http://www.centre.edu Internet: feeseb@centre.edu Phone: (606) 238-5318 FAX: (606) 236-7925 ============================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 04:51:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18615; Fri, 9 Jun 95 04:51:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17070; Fri, 9 Jun 95 04:30:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17064; Fri, 9 Jun 95 04:30:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sK2EU-00038EC; Fri, 9 Jun 95 04:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: RLUHMAN@netins.net (Rick Luhman) Subject: pegasus to Unix conversion Date: Thu, 08 Jun 1995 01:17:40 GMT Message-Id: <3r5ce9$52j@insosf1.netins.net> Status: O X-Status: At my place of employment we have two mail systems. The first is pegasus on our Local Network. The second is Pine mail (UNIX) on a Sun computer. We do not have access to a SLIP or a PPP connection. We have about 15 hookups to the Sun through a pad. Is it possible to compose a message in pegasus, queue that message, convert it to a Unix format, upload the message to the Sun computer via kermit, and than send the message through internet mail? I know that this may be complicated procedure and may not be possible, but if I can somehow automate a procedure through a kermit script file we will have the ability to do all of our mail with one mail system. Rick Luhman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 05:31:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19754; Fri, 9 Jun 95 05:31:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12307; Fri, 9 Jun 95 05:26:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12301; Fri, 9 Jun 95 05:25:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sK33x-00038CC; Fri, 9 Jun 95 05:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: karenm@netcom.com (Karen McEneaney) Subject: vacation program Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 15:18:59 GMT Status: O X-Status: Help! I need to set up an autoreply vacation program. I read the earlier posting about setting up a ".vacation.msg" and a .forward file then running vacation. However, my system apprently does not have this utility. Does anyone know where I can get it, or have any other suggestions? Help! Thanks, Karen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 05:31:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19777; Fri, 9 Jun 95 05:31:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17707; Fri, 9 Jun 95 05:26:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17701; Fri, 9 Jun 95 05:26:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sK34J-00038EC; Fri, 9 Jun 95 05:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" Subject: Re: Need Help using Distribution list Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 12:11:18 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: I think you can use a brute force method: cut - ^K - from the addressbook (or wherever), and paste - ^U - to the Newsgroups: !? The addressbook will come up with ^T if your cursor is in the To: line (shown when ^Rich is set). Zoli fekete@bc.edu (note my old full address @bcuxs2 is retired) "For my assured failures and derelictions, I ask pardon beforehand of my betters and my equals in my calling." - Rudyard Kipling On Wed, 7 Jun 1995, D & B Sales wrote: > I want to post the same massage to several newsgroups at once. I think > there is a way to do that using distribution lists in the address book. > However, I can't get access to my address book when I'm on the newsgroups: > line in the header. > What am I doing wrong or is there another way of doing this? > > Thanks for reading and pleaseeee help if you can. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 05:53:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20143; Fri, 9 Jun 95 05:53:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12569; Fri, 9 Jun 95 05:46:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12563; Fri, 9 Jun 95 05:46:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sK3Nn-00038CC; Fri, 9 Jun 95 05:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: canosk83@mead.eelab.newpaltz.edu (Mentor Cana) Subject: CONVERTING Elm aliases.txt file to PINE addressbook! Date: 9 Jun 1995 12:14:34 GMT Message-Id: <3r9dva$800@motss.newpaltz.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hello, I'm going to switch from Elm to Pine, but I need to convert my aliases file in Elm (where I have about 160 addresses stored) to PINE addressook file. Does anyone know of a script that will do this kind of conversion? Please reply directly to my address if possible.... thanks in advance......... --sincerely-- ====================================================== Mentor Cana (List Owner: ALBANIAN@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu) SUNY New Paltz, NY Canosk83@NPEEserv.EElab.NewPaltz.Edu http://npeeserv.eelab.newpaltz.edu/~canosk83/ ====================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 07:22:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22203; Fri, 9 Jun 95 07:22:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18945; Fri, 9 Jun 95 07:16:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18939; Fri, 9 Jun 95 07:16:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sK4px-00038HC; Fri, 9 Jun 95 07:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: Entering French Characters into Pine (Pico)???? Message-Id: <173AEC788S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <3qabld$av7@gbc.gbrownc.on.ca> Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 13:11:18 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article Paul O Bartlett writes: >On 28 May 1995, Ian Barnett wrote: > >> Is it possible to enter French characters into pine messages? We are >> using unix Pine/Pico with PCs acting as vt100 terminals. When in vi I can > > If you can successfully generate what you want in vi, try composing >your message with vi. ... That sounds fine to me. But, it would be polite to check first with your recipients to make sure that they can actually read the messages! Even if they use PINE (and there are some people out there that don't), it is not guaranteed that they have a terminal that displays (or is correctly set up to display) characters in the upper half of the 8-bit code table. As the saying goes - "be pessimistic in what you send out, and generous in interpreting what you receive". regards From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 07:37:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22612; Fri, 9 Jun 95 07:37:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14019; Fri, 9 Jun 95 07:26:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14013; Fri, 9 Jun 95 07:26:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sK4zp-00038EC; Fri, 9 Jun 95 07:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: miken@iceonline.com (Mike Newton) Subject: how to get rid of debug files? (tried pine -d0) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 04:25:11 GMT Status: O X-Status: Well, the subject says it all. every time i run pine, i get some .pine-debug files. i tried running pine with the d0 parameter, but then it wouldn't quit, and i have to ctrl-c to get out. i expect it's probably a problem in the code somewhere (it was compiled for BSD by the way), but if anyone's found a way around it, i'd like to know. it's kind of annoying. and if you could mail me, that would be better, since my news server is anti-comp.mail.pine, and only gets the groups when it feels like it. -- mike. ****************************************************************************** http://www.iceonline.com/home/miken/mike.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 08:09:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23878; Fri, 9 Jun 95 08:09:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19428; Fri, 9 Jun 95 07:51:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from panix.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19422; Fri, 9 Jun 95 07:51:03 -0700 Received: (from jander@localhost) by panix.com (8.6.12/8.6.12+PanixU1.0) id KAA05407; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 10:50:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 10:50:56 -0400 From: Jim Anderson Message-Id: <199506091450.KAA05407@panix.com> To: dlm@cac.washington.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: (message from David L Miller on Thu, 8 Jun 1995 14:24:24 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: imap Windows client available? Status: O X-Status: Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 08:37:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25204; Fri, 9 Jun 95 08:37:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20051; Fri, 9 Jun 95 08:27:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from reid.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20045; Fri, 9 Jun 95 08:27:15 -0700 Received: by reid.cac.washington.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA21767; Fri, 9 Jun 95 08:27:10 -0700 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 08:27:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "Timothy F. Lee {UCS}" X-Sender: timlee@reid.cac.washington.edu To: Jonathan Pyne Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Where do I find Pine In-Reply-To: <3r60t8$at4@news.midland.co.nz> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > Hi, can anyone tell me where I am able to get a copy of Pine for Unix. ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu:/pine --tim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 08:44:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25584; Fri, 9 Jun 95 08:44:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20059; Fri, 9 Jun 95 08:27:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from denver.carl.org by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20053; Fri, 9 Jun 95 08:27:34 -0700 Received: by denver (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA04239; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 09:27:13 -0600 From: troby@carl.org (Thorn Roby) Message-Id: <9506091527.AA04239@denver> Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 on Wyse 50 terminals ? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 09:27:12 -0600 (MDT) In-Reply-To: from "Brian P. Hampson" at Jun 8, 95 12:19:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Status: O X-Status: In my experience, the script to modify the Wyse arrow keys only works on terminals that support Wyse50+ mode. I think this means Wyse60 and later. If someone knows a way to make it work on a plain Wyse50, I'd be interested to hear about it. -- Thorn Roby troby@carl.org CARL Corporation 3801 E. Florida Ave.,Suite 300,Denver CO 80210 (303) 758-3030 x125 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 09:11:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27535; Fri, 9 Jun 95 09:11:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20706; Fri, 9 Jun 95 08:59:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20700; Fri, 9 Jun 95 08:59:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sK6M3-00038HC; Fri, 9 Jun 95 08:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: srb@cuci.nl (Stephen R. van den Berg) Subject: Re: Need a filter....? Date: 9 Jun 1995 12:41:07 +0200 Message-Id: <3r98g3$32u@zeus.cuci.nl> References: <3r824o$8lo@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: Andrew Halvorsen wrote: >Nancy McGough (nancym@ii.com) wrote: >> I don't know if Netcom has procmail installed, but I'd like to find out >> so please let us know. >Yes they do, but as I understand it, if you want to use it with Pine you >have to use it through an elm filter. I don't have an account at Netcom, so you might want to take this with a grain of salt, but as far as I know: - Netcom has procmail installed, albeit a rather outdated version. - It can be used by simply setting up a .forward file as in the manpages. - There is a user-maintained newer version of procmail installed somewhere. -- Sincerely, srb@cuci.nl Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless). Life is that brief interlude between nothingness and eternity. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 09:56:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29671; Fri, 9 Jun 95 09:56:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17223; Fri, 9 Jun 95 09:46:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17217; Fri, 9 Jun 95 09:46:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sK78C-00038HC; Fri, 9 Jun 95 09:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eweis@yorick.umd.edu (Weis - Ellen) Subject: Sent-mail folder Date: 8 Jun 1995 00:24:41 GMT Message-Id: <3r5g09$m5@hecate.umd.edu> Status: O X-Status: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 10:33:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01406; Fri, 9 Jun 95 10:33:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22338; Fri, 9 Jun 95 10:21:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22331; Fri, 9 Jun 95 10:21:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sK7hf-00038HC; Fri, 9 Jun 95 10:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: davis@bsm.bioc.ucl.ac.uk (Ben Davis) Subject: .sig & included replies Message-Id: <1995Jun9.142304.48875@ucl.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 14:23:04 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi, Pine has just been installed on the system I currently use. On the system I used to use, the .sig file was included _after_ included replies (which made sense) but here its included _before_ (which looks odd, imho). How do I change the relative inclusion positions of the replied-to mail and my .sig file ? I've looked in the .pinerc & pine.conf files, and there's nothing obvious ... Grateful for any help ... Ben -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Ben Davis, LICR NMR Group, Department of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology, University College, London, UK http://www.biochem.ucl.ac.uk/~davis ______________________________________________________________________________ "They can make me do it, but they can't make me do it with dignity." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 10:37:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01654; Fri, 9 Jun 95 10:37:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18053; Fri, 9 Jun 95 10:26:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18047; Fri, 9 Jun 95 10:26:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sK7kw-00038CC; Fri, 9 Jun 95 10:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Gardiner Myers Subject: Re: Reading un-MIME-ed mail Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 11:52:44 -0400 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Jeffrey Goldberg writes: > How do I deal with MIME messages that have been forwarded to > me by mailers (or people) who don't/can't deal with MIME? Try saving it to a file and running munpack on it ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/mpack/ -- _.John G. Myers Internet: jgm+@CMU.EDU LoseNet: ...!seismo!ihnp4!wiscvm.wisc.edu!give!up From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 10:41:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01912; Fri, 9 Jun 95 10:41:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18212; Fri, 9 Jun 95 10:31:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18200; Fri, 9 Jun 95 10:30:56 -0700 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA05219; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 10:30:22 -0700 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 10:30:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" To: Thorn Roby Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 on Wyse 50 terminals ? In-Reply-To: <9506091527.AA04239@denver> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 9 Jun 1995, Thorn Roby wrote: > In my experience, the script to modify the Wyse arrow keys only works > on terminals that support Wyse50+ mode. I think this means Wyse60 and > later. If someone knows a way to make it work on a plain Wyse50, I'd > be interested to hear about it. Ah...That MUST be it. Sorry for the misleading notions. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/---------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 10:51:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02296; Fri, 9 Jun 95 10:51:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22880; Fri, 9 Jun 95 10:41:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22874; Fri, 9 Jun 95 10:41:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sK827-00038HC; Fri, 9 Jun 95 10:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: relkay01@fiu.edu (Ron of 305/Miami_FL) Subject: Suggestion for Pine-improvement dealing with Exporting mail. Date: 9 Jun 1995 03:44:00 GMT Message-Id: <3r8g20$4lh@newshost.fiu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi! Everyday when I check my mail, I (E)xport a selective bunch of msgs into one file (today I called it 0608). It usually contains info from one specific mail-list (various news) and later on I printout that file. My suggestion is, that in the Config area, an option will be added for "Appended text will be precedeeded by a form-feed". I mean, I'd like each message to start on a new page. Right now, I have to manually add ^L's before every new appended message to the same file. It's really a pain in the arse. If you think this is a good idea, please follow-up and say so! The more people think this feature to be valuable, the higher the chances are of it being implemented. Thanks a million, Ron. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 11:21:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04117; Fri, 9 Jun 95 11:21:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19323; Fri, 9 Jun 95 11:11:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19317; Fri, 9 Jun 95 11:11:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sK8Vl-00038CC; Fri, 9 Jun 95 11:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eweis@yorick.umd.edu (Weis - Ellen) Subject: Sent-mail folder Date: 8 Jun 1995 00:35:05 GMT Message-Id: <3r5gjp$m5@hecate.umd.edu> Status: O X-Status: What di the letters D, A, and N stand for when they are found next to messages in the sent-mail folder? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 11:31:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04478; Fri, 9 Jun 95 11:31:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23908; Fri, 9 Jun 95 11:21:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23902; Fri, 9 Jun 95 11:21:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sK8f2-00038HC; Fri, 9 Jun 95 11:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aa293@detroit.freenet.org (Andrew P. Dinsdale) Subject: We Resrict users to /usr/local/rbin - How can 'spell' work? Date: 25 May 1995 20:54:01 GMT Message-Id: <3q2qp9$1k6@detroit.freenet.org> Status: O X-Status: Hi We have a restricted, not chroot I *must* add, environment where users can only execute programs in /usr/local/rbin. This includes Pine, Lynx their menus, cp, rm etc etc. Users execute Pine from a menu - so typing a number spawns /usr/local/rbin/pine. Everything works like a charm except for spell (^T). We have tried moving /usr/bin/spell into /usr/local/rbin (as well as all the programs used by spell) but still no cigar. When ^T is invoked Pine simply echoes back "Done Checking Spelling" with no corrections made. When I run Pine in a command tool I see "sh: /usr/bin/spell: restricted" - this does not surprise me as we are not giving users access to /usr/bin!!!! Now, what I need is some good advice on how to make Pine look for 'spell' in the users path NOT by looking for /usr/bin/spell. Has anyone hacked the source successfully (we tried that too) ?? Or can any Pine developers who read this group explain where I would change the code. Please help. Andrew Dinsdale -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 11:55:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05892; Fri, 9 Jun 95 11:55:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20095; Fri, 9 Jun 95 11:45:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20089; Fri, 9 Jun 95 11:45:48 -0700 Received: from kelly.teleport.com (bsherman@kelly.teleport.com [192.108.254.10]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA11602 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 11:45:39 -0700 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 11:45:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian E. Sherman" To: Pine Subject: Help with BINHEX Attachments/Convert to DOS Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hey, Fellow Pine Users: I have gotten a couple of files E-mailed to me from Macintosh users that show up in BINHEX4.0 format. These files are Excel5.0 spreadsheets and Word4.0 documents. After detaching them from the pine message and saving them in my home directory (on a Sun system) I have tried to convert them back to Excel & Word files using the "mcvert" (using various combinations of the "-" options) utility. It converts them to a file which I then rename them to a compatible "MS-DOS" filename and upload them to my PC. Neither Excel or Word will load them! I have even purchased a commercial data translator software package (DataViz V2.5) which read/writes Mac disks/files on my PC with no problems. It however doesn't do BINHEX4.0. I have tried to figure this out with no success. I know this can be done. If someone could send me instructions/procedures of what they are doing it would great. Am I losing something in the files by transferring them from Mac-->Sun-->MsDos O/S's ? Any help would greatly appreciated! Thanks! -- "You know, there are some people that just don't love their fellow human beings, and I HATE people like that." Tom Lehrer []=====================================================================[] [] Newport/Layton Home Fashions,Inc. - MIS/EDI Manager [] [] E-Mail: Brian E. Sherman bsherman@teleport.com [] [] snailMail: 1420 NW Lovejoy St. Portland, Oregon USA 97209 [] [] Voice: 503-222-3847 Ext. 234 Fax: 503-222-7465 [] []=====================================================================[] Opinions Expressed Here Are Mine. No-One Else Wants To Claim Them. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 12:38:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08109; Fri, 9 Jun 95 12:38:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21276; Fri, 9 Jun 95 12:30:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jumbo.ntplx.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21270; Fri, 9 Jun 95 12:30:02 -0700 Received: from quoin1.UUCP by ntplx.net (4.1/NETPLEX-1.3) id AA25122; Fri, 9 Jun 95 15:29:53 EDT Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 13:51:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: "Andrew P. Dinsdale" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: We Resrict users to /usr/local/rbin - How can 'spell' work? In-Reply-To: <3q2qp9$1k6@detroit.freenet.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > Now, what I need is some good advice on how to make Pine look for 'spell' > in the users path NOT by looking for /usr/bin/spell. Has anyone hacked > the source successfully (we tried that too) ?? Or can any Pine developers I built pine-3.91 from the source on a Linux box. One of changes I made to the source was to use ispell instead of spell. All that need to be changed was the file pico/os_unix.h. Specifically, on line 137 I changed the macro SPELLER to: #define SPELLER "/usr/bin/ispell -u" You should be set this to whatever directory you like. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jean Pierre LeJacq Quoin, Inc Suite 200 North local voice: +1.203.295.0874 124 Mount Auburn Street voice: +1.617.576.5885 Cambridge, MA 02138-5700 fax: +1.617.576.5876 U.S.A. internet: jplejacq@quoininc.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 13:23:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10464; Fri, 9 Jun 95 13:23:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22406; Fri, 9 Jun 95 13:11:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22400; Fri, 9 Jun 95 13:11:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKAKb-00038CC; Fri, 9 Jun 95 13:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aks Subject: Re: PC-Pine and SLIP Date: 25 May 1995 21:02:46 GMT Message-Id: <3q2r9m$th2@news.cuny.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Switch to a MAC. I'm serious. economist From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 14:44:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13822; Fri, 9 Jun 95 14:44:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28158; Fri, 9 Jun 95 14:35:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.bridgeway.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28152; Fri, 9 Jun 95 14:35:38 -0700 Received: by server.bridgeway.com id <207667>; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 14:35:43 -0700 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 14:35:40 -0700 From: Andrew Le To: aks Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC-Pine and SLIP In-Reply-To: <3q2r9m$th2@news.cuny.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: More like "Power" Macintosh.. using the latest in RISC technology... much better than a math-flawed Pentium machine.... ehheeheh ================================================================== Andrew Le support@server.bridgeway.com Bridgeway Corporation 206-881-4270 Bridging the Gap in Network Mgt. 206-861-1774 fax ================================================================== On Thu, 25 May 1995, aks wrote: > Switch to a MAC. I'm serious. > > economist > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 15:32:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15923; Fri, 9 Jun 95 15:32:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29116; Fri, 9 Jun 95 15:24:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from black.csi.cam.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29106; Fri, 9 Jun 95 15:24:04 -0700 Received: from puce.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.40] (ident = root) by black.csi.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.0 #36) id m0sKCT8-000CByC; Fri, 9 Jun 95 23:23 BST Received: by puce.csi.cam.ac.uk (Smail-3.1.29.0 #36) id m0sKCT8-0001xpC; Fri, 9 Jun 95 23:23 BST Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 23:23:57 +0100 (BST) From: Gavin Taylor X-Sender: gjt1000@puce.csi.cam.ac.uk To: Ben Davis Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: .sig & included replies In-Reply-To: <1995Jun9.142304.48875@ucl.ac.uk> Message-Id: Organization: University of Cambridge Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: You should find that there's an option "signature-at-bottom" somewhere in your .pinerc file, in the feature-list section. Just check that, and presto, the signature appears at the bottom! Gavin On Fri, 9 Jun 1995, Ben Davis wrote: > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: .sig & included replies > > Pine has just been installed on the system I currently use. On the system I > used to use, the .sig file was included _after_ included replies (which made > sense) but here its included _before_ (which looks odd, imho). > > How do I change the relative inclusion positions of the replied-to mail and > my .sig file ? I've looked in the .pinerc & pine.conf files, and there's > nothing obvious ... +-----------------------------+------------------------------------------+ | Gavin Jon Taylor | "God made the integers, the rest are the | | St. John's College | work of man" | | Cambridge CB2 1TP | Kronecker | | | | | Tel: +44 (0)1223 354581 | | +-----------------------------+------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 16:36:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18682; Fri, 9 Jun 95 16:36:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27127; Fri, 9 Jun 95 16:27:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27121; Fri, 9 Jun 95 16:27:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKDOb-00038CC; Fri, 9 Jun 95 16:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nelson Chin Subject: automatic way to use pine to uuencode 8-bit (eg, korean) mail Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 00:33:06 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: an automatic way to use pine (or any mime supported mailers) to correspond in 8-bit charset (eg, Korean, Chinese, Japanese, etc) mail with users who only have uuen/decode, is to email via the mime/uuencode gateway, in this format: login.name%host.name%uue@mmd.csie.nctu.edu.tw eg, cyl%ifcss.org%uue@mmd.csie.nctu.edu.tw Your reply-to address will automatically be in the format login.name%host.name%mme@uud.csie.nctu.edu.tw so that the reply will come back in mime format so you can read it directly in pine w/o having to pipe it to uudecode. Nelson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 17:00:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19512; Fri, 9 Jun 95 17:00:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00977; Fri, 9 Jun 95 16:52:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00971; Fri, 9 Jun 95 16:52:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKDo5-00038CC; Fri, 9 Jun 95 16:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: O.K> all you hot shots!![D Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 20:34:25 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3r4d8d$q7n@er5.rutgers.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 7 Jun 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > However in its current incarnation Pine does not support authentication > to news servers. The good news is that I am working on the NNTP support code in the IMAP-4 toolkit now, and I *will* be implementing the authentication stuff. I don't know at the present time whether or not this will make it into Pine 3.92 since it'll probably require retrofitting the authentication code into the IMAP-3.6 toolkit (which I'm trying to freeze -- as in every change made to IMAP-3.6 delays IMAP-4 further). Probably not; but a final decision hasn't been made yet. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 18:04:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22293; Fri, 9 Jun 95 18:04:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02461; Fri, 9 Jun 95 17:52:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02454; Fri, 9 Jun 95 17:52:17 -0700 Received: (from michael@localhost) by linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA13251; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 17:51:09 -0700 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 17:51:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Schuyler To: mrc@cac.washington.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: alt.2600 post about your site (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: The following post on alt.2600 shows the pathway via Pine to shell accounts. If you are using Pine through a menu script and don't have shell access, then Pine will provide it for you. It does not matter if you have pine.conf.fixed set to no-enable-alternate-editor or that you set the editor in pine.conf.fixed to "" Still works. Xref: nntpa alt.2600:75982 Path: nntpa!gw2.att.com!pacbell.com!nntp-hub2.barrnet.net!newshost.ea.com!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!uunet!in1.uu.net!news.sprintlink.net!cyberspace.com!cyberspace.com!not-for-mail From: apollo@cyberspace.com (Donny Stover E Apollo) Newsgroups: alt.2600 Subject: Hacking Date: 6 Jun 1995 14:49:49 -0700 The 5 Step Guide to Hacking a pine-based account 1. Press 1 on the menu to go to pine 2. Type S then C to configure pine 3. Go to the bottom and A add vi to be your alternate editor 4. Exit config, go to compose a message, press ^_ to go to vi. 5. Type Escape :set shell=/bin/sh then Escape :shell Boom!... You now are in a shell. This works on lots of mail accounts assuming you can get a password, easy to do with Crack and the /etc/passwd file. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 18:06:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22377; Fri, 9 Jun 95 18:06:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29494; Fri, 9 Jun 95 17:57:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29488; Fri, 9 Jun 95 17:57:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKEqb-00038CC; Fri, 9 Jun 95 17:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley) Subject: Re: Bad message-ids (was PINE, please don't generate headers) Date: 9 Jun 1995 20:09:22 GMT Message-Id: <3ra9pi$hub@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> References: <3qg9at$1l0@zeus.cuci.nl> <3r7hc3$ou7@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article , Mark Crispin wrote: >> It isn't really a question of using DNS or not. It is a question of >> whether the network uses a domain name or not. > >This distinction is unimportant. I would think that the reason that Pine doesn't use FQDN in some message id's is rather important in a discussion about why Pine doesn't use FQDN in some message id's. It isn't an issue of DNS, it is an issue of how the system is named. >The only reason for using a domain >format name without using DNS is a future expectation of using DNS. Or so that software that needs it can have it. >This is irrelevant. Whether or not it is "good policy", it is perfectly >valid for a private network not to use domain names. Right. And just why is it we are caring if private networks are generating bad message id's? It seems that the problem becomes a problem when those networks aren't private anymore. >News has nothing to do with this. Anyway, you don't use Pine for news, so >it shouldn't bother you. Right. I'll just start saying "screw anyone who hasn't a proper message id and just drop their messages on the floor". >Certain individuals claimed (incorrectly) that a message ID without a FQDN >was invalid, and (correctly) that such a message ID was more likely to >have false matches. Since the RFC specifies "unique", "more likely to have false matches" means that it doesn't meet the RFC specifications. >another to say that it is misconfigured if the FQDN isn't a meaningful >concept. 1) FQDN is meaningfull for private networks. 2) I didn't say it was misconfigured. >> And then you tell them to set their domain name. > >In a domainless private network, that is about as meaningful as saying >"and then you tell them to blurdybloop the sarasoop". Malarky. Private networks are just as capable of having domain names as are "public" ones. "Not needed except for certain things" is not the same as "meaningless". From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 19:36:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24146; Fri, 9 Jun 95 19:36:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03735; Fri, 9 Jun 95 19:32:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03729; Fri, 9 Jun 95 19:32:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKGKv-00038CC; Fri, 9 Jun 95 19:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: DASHWORT@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (Dennis Ashworth) Subject: pine3.91 sometimes hangs on compose with AIX Date: Fri, 09 Jun 95 21:37:42 EDT Message-Id: <173B813026.DASHWORT@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> Status: O X-Status: I have been using Pine for several months on a RISC 6000 running AIX 3.2. Most of my users (accounts) experience no problems...but for some users, at various times, when they go to compose a message, the program hangs at the to name prompt. It's really strange...sometimes it works, other times it hangs...I cann't seem to find a pattern. I'll admit, I don't know much about configuring pine. I compiled it and pico. I don't have a pine.conf...each user has a .pinerc file. I'm not using imap (using pop3)...is imap necessary? Any help would be appreciated! I would really like to use pine as our campus mail program, if I could just get around this "hanging" up problem. Dennis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 9 20:49:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25811; Fri, 9 Jun 95 20:49:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02099; Fri, 9 Jun 95 20:42:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02093; Fri, 9 Jun 95 20:42:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKHR3-00038CC; Fri, 9 Jun 95 20:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ams9@cornell.edu (Alex Schmelkin) Subject: pc-pine, TIA-SLIP, and VMS Date: 9 Jun 1995 23:29:18 GMT Message-Id: <3ralge$k0o@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O X-Status: I am slipping to the internet in the following way: 1) call into a local university and connect to my unix account using trumpet winsock TCPMAN 2) run TIA-SLIP program (makes modified SLIP capability through UNIX shells) My email comes in through a vax/vms account at the same university. When I call and connect to the vax, without slipping, I can type PINE to access my mail. I would like to be able to configure PC-Pine to do the same yet I have been unsuccesful. Has anyone set up PC-Pine using a TIA-SLIP slip interface? And, if not, any basic setup help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for the help. Alex Schmelkin dce77ams@hofstra.edu ams9@cornell.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 10 01:57:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02024; Sat, 10 Jun 95 01:57:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06221; Sat, 10 Jun 95 01:50:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06215; Sat, 10 Jun 95 01:50:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKMCi-00038CC; Sat, 10 Jun 95 01:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bmartin@rufous.yorku.ca (Bernard Martin) Subject: Any trouble installing Pine on AIX? Date: 8 Jun 1995 05:14:04 GMT Message-Id: <3r60us$j3o@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Status: O X-Status: This is a followup to a previous message I sent to the list. Has anyone using Pine on a system running AIX (particularly AIX 3.2.5) experienced particular problems? Responses from both users and systems administrators are welcome at my e-mail address (below), or to the group if you feel responses are of general interest. The local system administrator refuses to install Pine on our AIX machines because he claims that it will cause extra work for him and his staff. I don't believe it, and neither have others. Is Pine an administrative bear? Right now the system is running Z-Mail, a hideous commerical product which is without an online manual and is a pain to use and customize. Pine (or anything) would be better than this. Thanks in advance. -- Bernard Martin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 10 03:02:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03218; Sat, 10 Jun 95 03:02:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08488; Sat, 10 Jun 95 02:59:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08482; Sat, 10 Jun 95 02:58:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKNFh-00038CC; Sat, 10 Jun 95 02:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gpalsson@mail.sdsu.edu (Jerry Palsson) Subject: Line numbers in Pico? Date: 9 Jun 1995 17:31:01 GMT Message-Id: <3ra0gl$ci0@gondor.sdsu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Just found this list, so I'm sorry if this is a FAQ: Is Pico capable of displaying line numbers in the file being edited? This would be helpful when we do HTML file validations, since the error reports we receive refer to line numbers. Jerry Palsson gpalsson@mail.sdsu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 10 03:22:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03653; Sat, 10 Jun 95 03:22:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07257; Sat, 10 Jun 95 03:19:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07251; Sat, 10 Jun 95 03:19:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKNZn-00038EC; Sat, 10 Jun 95 03:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley) Subject: Re: PINE, please don't generate headers Date: 9 Jun 1995 20:14:53 GMT Message-Id: <3raa3t$j4k@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> References: <3q5kll$5pa@ocean.CAM.ORG> <3r2srr$fq3@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <3r5093$227@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article , Peter da Silva wrote: >In article <3r5093$227@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>, >John Stanley wrote: >> Just as if someone posted the same article to two different newsgroups >> from two different servers with the same message id. > >Which is something that takes a deliberate effort to do, as opposed to >sending a message to two mailing lists that have gateways which is very >easy to do accidentally. Yes. So easy that it hasn't happened once here. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 10 04:02:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04397; Sat, 10 Jun 95 04:02:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09076; Sat, 10 Jun 95 03:59:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09070; Sat, 10 Jun 95 03:59:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKOEN-00038CC; Sat, 10 Jun 95 03:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Rollins Subject: A Major Pine Time Problem! Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 06:55:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have just experienced yet another unhappy encounter with what is currently my biggest complaint, by far, against the Pine newsreader program. Is there any easy way for me to abort the opening, and seemingly eternal sorting process, of a folder which I am not interested in viewing? At least once a week, I find myself accidentally hitting return an extra time, when I hit return to show all of the newsgroups to which I am a subscriber. What makes this really bad, is that the first newsgroup in my list is alt.2600. As of just a few minutes ago, there were over fourteen hundred messages in that folder, here at IDS. Fortunately this incident happened at Six-thirty on a Saturday morning. Most of my encounters with this damned problem tend to happen when the system is at its busy slowest. There is nothing more annoying to me, than to sit waiting for several minutes, while I am forced watch the Pine newsreader program totally waste my time, with the seemingly endless sorting of a news folder that I am not at all interested in viewing. How do I abort this problem in the future? Please do let me know if there is an easy solution. Mike Rollins mjr@conan.ids.net Speaking only for myself. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 10 04:17:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05290; Sat, 10 Jun 95 04:17:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08073; Sat, 10 Jun 95 04:09:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08067; Sat, 10 Jun 95 04:09:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKOMb-00038EC; Sat, 10 Jun 95 04:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Reading un-MIME-ed mail Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 11:57:58 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This is probably a FAQ, but I didn't find it on the FAQ. How do I deal with MIME messages that have been forwarded to me by mailers (or people) who don't/can't deal with MIME? Thanks, -jeff Jeffrey Goldberg Email: J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk WWW: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 10 04:36:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05587; Sat, 10 Jun 95 04:36:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09645; Sat, 10 Jun 95 04:29:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09639; Sat, 10 Jun 95 04:29:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKOg7-00038EC; Sat, 10 Jun 95 04:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Anthony Lacey Subject: Username Date: 8 Jun 1995 11:26:37 GMT Message-Id: <3r6mpd$rk8@hippo.shef.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Can anyone suggest a way of stopping pine from adding the @domain name to the later part of the mail address. Our network uses an alias list (which includes people not within the domain) and this causes a problem. I am not able to change the aliases as I do not have root access. Cheers ______________________________________________________________ Anthony Lacey Dept. EEE, University of Sheffield, Mappin St., Sheffield. email: a.lacey@sheffield.ac.uk S1 3JD. Tel : (0114) 2825188 United Kingdom Fax : (0112) 2726391 --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 10 05:48:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07021; Sat, 10 Jun 95 05:48:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08989; Sat, 10 Jun 95 05:34:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08983; Sat, 10 Jun 95 05:34:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKPix-00038EC; Sat, 10 Jun 95 05:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" Subject: Re: procmail question [from netcom] Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 07:38:09 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: I'm including some snippets from the FAQ's (available eg. in comp.answers, news.answers and the Usenet archives). I don't know what netcom has, but if they don't they should get it given that many of their competitors have it installed. In any case, it's a piece of cake to set it up yourself even if it's not available system-wide! Incidentally, as we've mentioned earlier ;-), this thread doesn't belong in c.m.PINE but in comp.mail.misc (or better yet on the procmail mailing list)! Newsgroups: comp.mail.list-admin.software, comp.answers, news.answers Subject: Mailing list management software FAQ Archive-name: mail/list-admin/software-faq [...] Stephen R. van den Berg ("AKA BuGless"), who writes both Procmail and SmartList, provides quick and friendly support on their discussion lists. To run SmartList, you also need Procmail. Get the sources for both at: amatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/packages/Procmail/SmartList.tar.gz> (replace ".gz" with ".Z" if you don't have the GNU gzip pacssion lists: subscribe to Procmail@informatik.rwth-aachen.de and/or SmartList@informatik.rwth-aachen.de by writing a subscessage (any format, even plain English) to Procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc, comp.sources.wanted, comp.answers, news.answers Subject: Mail Archive Server software list Archive-name: mail/archive-servers/faq [...] Name: procmail Author: Stephen R. van den Berg Version: 3.03 How to get it: - Get "procmail" from volume 43 of comp.sources.misc archives. - ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de: s/procmail/procmail.tar.gz - By MIME mail, send To: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aa: archive get procmail*.tar.gz - By uuencoded (non-MIME) mail, send To: procmail-request Subject: archive get procmail*uue.* Zoli fekete@bc.edu (note my old full address @bcuxs2 is retired) "For my assured failures and derelictions, I ask pardon beforehand of my betters and my equals in my calling." - Rudyard Kipling From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 10 07:08:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08052; Sat, 10 Jun 95 07:08:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10958; Sat, 10 Jun 95 07:04:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10952; Sat, 10 Jun 95 07:04:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKR82-00038CC; Sat, 10 Jun 95 07:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: POLCHER Jan Subject: Non-MIME attachments ?? Date: 8 Jun 1995 13:15:00 GMT Message-Id: <3r6t4k$7g7@nef.ens.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hi I have two problems which concern attachments which are not MIME. HOW DO I SEND AND READ NON-MIME ATTACHMENTS ???? - I find attachments a very practical thing and I would like to use it also for sensding ASCII files (PostScript for instance) to people who are not able to decode MIME. You will certainly tell me to use ^R and read the file, but as I said attachments are very partical for me when I wirte the mail and they indicate clearly to the recipient what type of file is included. - From time to time I receive normal ASCII mails where PINE tels me that the text is in an attachment, but as it is ASCII I am not able to view it. I have to save the entire mail and read from UNIX the file. I use PINE version 3.91 and I have other problems such as handeling folders which contain a lot of messages (more than 200). Things get very very slow when the folders are large and it takes up a lot of disc space. Wouldn't it be possible to compress folders and only keep a table of content? One could also use another format for storing the mails, a format with direct access possibilities. PINE is a wonderful toll and I would like to see it evolve. Many thanks to the PINE development team. Best regards Jan Polcher -- Jan Polcher TEL: -33-1-44322243 Laboratoire de Meteorologie Dynamique / E.N.S. FAX: -33-1-43368392 24, rue Lhomond 75231 PARIS cedex 05, FRANCE http://www.lmd.ens.fr/~polcher From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 10 07:58:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08905; Sat, 10 Jun 95 07:58:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10486; Sat, 10 Jun 95 07:49:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10480; Sat, 10 Jun 95 07:49:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKRpy-00038CC; Sat, 10 Jun 95 07:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: din@teliti.po.my (Kamaruddin Mahmood) Subject: PINE on DG/UX Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 02:10:56 GMT Status: O X-Status: I just install Pine 3.91 on my machine running dg/ux. I can read and send mail. I can subscribe and read newsgroups. But I can't post news. Each time I compose or reply to newsgroups and send it, Pine will give me message... "Error posting message: 421 SMTP connection went away!" info : o/s : dg/ux Pine 3.91 C-news nntpd 1.5.11 Please help me. - din @ teliti.po.my - Teliti Computers Sdn Bhd Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 10 08:48:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09941; Sat, 10 Jun 95 08:48:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11901; Sat, 10 Jun 95 08:44:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11895; Sat, 10 Jun 95 08:44:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKSgO-00038CC; Sat, 10 Jun 95 08:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley) Subject: Re: Bad message-ids (was PINE, please don't generate headers) Date: 8 Jun 1995 19:00:19 GMT Message-Id: <3r7hc3$ou7@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> References: <3qg9at$1l0@zeus.cuci.nl> <3r3n2i$plt@hustle.rahul.net> Status: O X-Status: In article , Mark Crispin wrote: >There is no good way to determine that (1) is a misconfiguration, as >opposed to being a private TCP/IP network that isn't connected to Internet >and does not use DNS. It isn't really a question of using DNS or not. It is a question of whether the network uses a domain name or not. And private networks are quite capable of having a domain name. It is a good policy to HAVE such a name, for the day when the network is no longer isolated from the net. Since the problem is one of message id's that show up in news, then saying "the network isn't connected" is incorrect. >3.92 is going to have some form of guess/warning, although I wouldn't be >at all surprised if someone on a private net with a perfectly valid >configuration gets bit and flames us. And then you tell them to set their domain name. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 10 09:09:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10422; Sat, 10 Jun 95 09:09:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11458; Sat, 10 Jun 95 09:04:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11450; Sat, 10 Jun 95 09:04:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKSxP-00038CC; Sat, 10 Jun 95 09:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gwestlu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu (George L. Westlund) Subject: Re: Any trouble installing Pine on AIX? Date: 8 Jun 1995 11:29:52 -0700 Message-Id: <3r7fj0$3381@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu> References: <3r60us$j3o@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Status: O X-Status: bmartin@rufous.yorku.ca (Bernard Martin) said... >Has anyone using Pine on a system running AIX (particularly AIX 3.2.5) >experienced particular problems? Responses from both users and systems >administrators are welcome at my e-mail address (below), or to the group >if you feel responses are of general interest. > >Is Pine an administrative bear? Fully 80% of our users (16000+ accounts) use pine for their mail interface because of its ease of use. The only major problem caused by this is its use of memory (about 1.2MB minimum, plus the size of the mailbox). It has not been an administrative problem at all with the excpetion that it has increased our mail traffic by being easier for the beginning users to use. It installed with little difficulty and provide a host of configurable options for both the user and the administrator. It also provides an easy to use NETNews interface for both reading and posting news (version 3.91). -- George L. Westlund || Internet: gwestlu@calpoly.edu Instructional Applications || BITNET: DI001@CALPOLY.BITNET Cal Poly || NoiseNET: (805)756-6543 San Luis Obispo, CA 93407 || FAX: (805)756-1536 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 10 09:14:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10561; Sat, 10 Jun 95 09:14:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11570; Sat, 10 Jun 95 09:11:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11564; Sat, 10 Jun 95 09:11:34 -0700 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA02022; Sat, 10 Jun 1995 09:11:05 -0700 Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 09:11:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: Re: A Major Pine Time Problem! To: Mike Rollins Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 10 Jun 1995, Mike Rollins wrote: > newsgroup in my list is alt.2600. As of just a few minutes > ago, there were over fourteen hundred messages in that folder, > here at IDS. Fortunately this incident happened at Six-thirty > on a Saturday morning. Most of my encounters with this damned > problem tend to happen when the system is at its busy slowest. > There is nothing more annoying to me, than to sit waiting for > several minutes, while I am forced watch the Pine newsreader > program totally waste my time, with the seemingly endless > sorting of a news folder that I am not at all interested in > viewing. How do I abort this problem in the future? Please > do let me know if there is an easy solution. Heh..try and see how painful it is when your specified NNTP server is down :( B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/---------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 10 09:38:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10908; Sat, 10 Jun 95 09:38:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12381; Sat, 10 Jun 95 09:34:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ids.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12375; Sat, 10 Jun 95 09:34:19 -0700 Received: from conan by ids.net with SMTP; Sat, 10 Jun 1995 12:30:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 12:28:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Rollins X-Sender: mjr@conan To: "Brian P. Hampson" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: A Major Pine Time Problem! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 10 Jun 1995, Brian P. Hampson wrote: > On Sat, 10 Jun 1995, Mike Rollins wrote: > > > newsgroup in my list is alt.2600. As of just a few minutes > > ago, there were over fourteen hundred messages in that folder, > > here at IDS. Fortunately this incident happened at Six-thirty > > on a Saturday morning. Most of my encounters with this damned > > problem tend to happen when the system is at its busy slowest. > > There is nothing more annoying to me, than to sit waiting for > > several minutes, while I am forced watch the Pine newsreader > > program totally waste my time, with the seemingly endless > > sorting of a news folder that I am not at all interested in > > viewing. How do I abort this problem in the future? Please > > do let me know if there is an easy solution. > > Heh..try and see how painful it is when your specified NNTP server is > down :( > > B. > I've been there! Done that too! Had to hang two consecutive jobs in a row, just a couple of days ago. One of them stayed online for several hours, before it was killed by the systems people. Mike Rollins mjr@conan.ids.net Speaking only for myself. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | > |System Administrator, | > |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | > |Vancouver, BC | > |+604-253-4188 | > | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | > | | > ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/---------------------------- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 10 11:52:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13531; Sat, 10 Jun 95 11:52:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13741; Sat, 10 Jun 95 11:50:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13735; Sat, 10 Jun 95 11:50:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKVXx-00038CC; Sat, 10 Jun 95 11:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stc1@ix.netcom.com (Software Training Center ) Subject: Re: automatic way to use pine to uuencode 8-bit (eg, korean) mail Date: 10 Jun 1995 18:10:50 GMT Message-Id: <3rcn7a$bb@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> References: Status: O X-Status: In Nelson Chin writes: > >an automatic way to use pine (or any mime supported mailers) to >correspond in 8-bit charset (eg, Korean, Chinese, Japanese, etc) mail >with users who only have uuen/decode, is to email via the mime/uuencode >gateway, in this format: > >login.name%host.name%uue@mmd.csie.nctu.edu.tw > >eg, cyl%ifcss.org%uue@mmd.csie.nctu.edu.tw > >Your reply-to address will automatically be in the format > >login.name%host.name%mme@uud.csie.nctu.edu.tw > >so that the reply will come back in mime format so you can read it >directly in pine w/o having to pipe it to uudecode. > >Nelson Test From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 10 16:34:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18871; Sat, 10 Jun 95 16:34:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16993; Sat, 10 Jun 95 16:30:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16987; Sat, 10 Jun 95 16:30:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKZwf-00038EC; Sat, 10 Jun 95 16:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Bad message-ids (was PINE, please don't generate headers) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 09:46:01 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3qg9at$1l0@zeus.cuci.nl> <3r7hc3$ou7@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> <3ra9pi$hub@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3ra9pi$hub@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> Status: O X-Status: There does not seem to be any point to continuing this discussion any further. I hope that John Stanley will attend the email-related meetings of the IETF in the future and share his vast knowledge. On 9 Jun 1995, John Stanley wrote: > In article , > Mark Crispin wrote: > >> It isn't really a question of using DNS or not. It is a question of > >> whether the network uses a domain name or not. > > > >This distinction is unimportant. > > I would think that the reason that Pine doesn't use FQDN in some > message id's is rather important in a discussion about why Pine > doesn't use FQDN in some message id's. It isn't an issue of DNS, it > is an issue of how the system is named. > > >The only reason for using a domain > >format name without using DNS is a future expectation of using DNS. > > Or so that software that needs it can have it. > > >This is irrelevant. Whether or not it is "good policy", it is perfectly > >valid for a private network not to use domain names. > > Right. And just why is it we are caring if private networks are > generating bad message id's? It seems that the problem becomes a problem > when those networks aren't private anymore. > > >News has nothing to do with this. Anyway, you don't use Pine for news, so > >it shouldn't bother you. > > Right. I'll just start saying "screw anyone who hasn't a proper message > id and just drop their messages on the floor". > > >Certain individuals claimed (incorrectly) that a message ID without a FQDN > >was invalid, and (correctly) that such a message ID was more likely to > >have false matches. > > Since the RFC specifies "unique", "more likely to have false matches" > means that it doesn't meet the RFC specifications. > > >another to say that it is misconfigured if the FQDN isn't a meaningful > >concept. > > 1) FQDN is meaningfull for private networks. 2) I didn't say it was > misconfigured. > > >> And then you tell them to set their domain name. > > > >In a domainless private network, that is about as meaningful as saying > >"and then you tell them to blurdybloop the sarasoop". > > Malarky. Private networks are just as capable of having domain names as > are "public" ones. "Not needed except for certain things" is not the > same as "meaningless". > > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 10 16:43:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19097; Sat, 10 Jun 95 16:43:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16654; Sat, 10 Jun 95 16:40:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16648; Sat, 10 Jun 95 16:40:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKa4R-00038CC; Sat, 10 Jun 95 16:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rhballan@eos.ncsu.edu (Robert Hami Ballantine) Subject: Need Pico for SYS5R4 Date: 9 Jun 1995 18:27:17 GMT Message-Id: <3ra3q5$qhr@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Me and some other analysts at work are fed up with vi. I was wondering if someone might have a compiled binary for System V R4, or know where I can find one. Our Sysadmin thinks vi is wonderful so he won't help us. I've used Pico at school and it's definitely better. All help is appreciated. Thanks.......Rob From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 10 17:04:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19595; Sat, 10 Jun 95 17:04:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17441; Sat, 10 Jun 95 17:00:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17435; Sat, 10 Jun 95 17:00:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKaSK-00038CC; Sat, 10 Jun 95 17:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ii@best.com (Nancy McGough) Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: 31 May 1995 15:52:35 -0700 Message-Id: <3qis04$b56@shell1.best.com> Status: O X-Status: cancel in newsgroup comp.mail.pine This article was cancelled from within NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) -- /\_/\ @..@ Please make sure your host gets the /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) new humanities.* newsgroups. Info ( o.o ) > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) is at http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 10 21:50:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25106; Sat, 10 Jun 95 21:50:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19996; Sat, 10 Jun 95 21:46:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19990; Sat, 10 Jun 95 21:46:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKeuR-00038CC; Sat, 10 Jun 95 21:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gerald@hal-pc.org (Gerald L. Zimmerer) Subject: Dot Forward and INBOX Problem. Date: 11 Jun 1995 04:12:30 GMT Message-Id: <3rdqg1$sse@hal-pc.org> Status: O X-Status: Re: dot forward and INBOX I want to receive my mail at two e-mail locations. One for day time and one for evenings. I have been successful by using a simple .forward command file in my user directory. Only problem is that I can not forward my mail directly to my INBOX. I have to chose another file name for these messages. No big deal, but it would be nice if I could get my mail in the INBOX location so that I do not have to change folders every time I open pine. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Gerald From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 10 23:11:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26605; Sat, 10 Jun 95 23:11:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22194; Sat, 10 Jun 95 23:06:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22188; Sat, 10 Jun 95 23:06:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKg8R-00038CC; Sat, 10 Jun 95 23:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shields@tembel.org (Michael Shields) Subject: Re: PINE, please don't generate headers Date: 10 Jun 1995 22:22:59 -0000 Message-Id: <3rd603$oqa@yage.tembel.org> References: <3q5kll$5pa@ocean.CAM.ORG> <3r5093$227@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> <3raa3t$j4k@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <3raa3t$j4k@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>, John Stanley wrote: > In article , Peter da Silva wrote: > >In article <3r5093$227@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>, > >John Stanley wrote: > >> Just as if someone posted the same article to two different newsgroups > >> from two different servers with the same message id. > > > >Which is something that takes a deliberate effort to do, as opposed to > >sending a message to two mailing lists that have gateways which is very > >easy to do accidentally. > > Yes. So easy that it hasn't happened once here. Whether it is easy or not, the fact that it can be done accidentally and easily defended against is reason to defend against it. -- Shields. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 10 23:45:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27276; Sat, 10 Jun 95 23:45:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21074; Sat, 10 Jun 95 23:41:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21068; Sat, 10 Jun 95 23:41:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKgeS-00038CC; Sat, 10 Jun 95 23:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scottec@netcom.com (Scott Cunningham) Subject: Headers in Received Mail Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 06:08:43 GMT Status: O X-Status: I've figured out how to forward and file my mail in folders, get return-receipts on request, and rewrite the from command to show forwarded mail. Now the question. How do I get Pine to list the full headers when viewing received mail. Ideally I would like to view specific headers based upon the folder it is viewed from. I am running Pine 3.91 on a shell account (unix). Thanks in advance. scott From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 11 00:29:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28078; Sun, 11 Jun 95 00:29:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23187; Sun, 11 Jun 95 00:26:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23181; Sun, 11 Jun 95 00:26:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKhN9-00038CC; Sun, 11 Jun 95 00:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw (Brian Tao) Subject: Postpone message big (minor) Date: 10 Jun 1995 17:01:26 GMT Message-Id: <3rcj56$bi5@gate.sinica.edu.tw> Status: O X-Status: Each time you postpone a message, a blank line is added to the end of the message. Normally this isn't a problem since you wouldn't be postponing a message over and over again, and blank lines at the end of a message usually aren't noticed. I thought I'd point that out anyway... no doubt a trivial fix (haven't looked at the source yet, myself). -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 11 03:19:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01854; Sun, 11 Jun 95 03:19:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25310; Sun, 11 Jun 95 03:17:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25304; Sun, 11 Jun 95 03:17:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKk0n-00038CC; Sun, 11 Jun 95 03:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ye@maia.cl.au.ac.th (Ye Tun) Subject: Mail port posting! Date: 11 Jun 1995 09:55:58 GMT Message-Id: <3reeje$f7b@abac.au.ac.th> Status: O X-Status: Does anyone know how to mail using mail port? i tried many times and it doesn't work. If you have any hints, please mail me directly at ye@maia.au.ac.th . Because my mail server is always 2 weeks behind Thanks -- REgards, ** Ye ** \```\ || ) O O ) || +--++--------.oOOo--U--ooOo-------++--+ \ Ye Tun \ \ System Administrator \ +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ \ Computer Laboratory \ | Wanna Race With | \ Assumption University \ | ME Ummm.? | \ Bangkok 10240, Thailand \ |______ ,____________| \ \ | / \ ye@maia.cl.au.ac.th \ |/ \ +66-2-3004543 ext 3672-5 \ ,__o +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=Oooo.=-=-=-=-=-=#-----_-\_<, .oooO ( ) (*)/`(*) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 11 03:44:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02353; Sun, 11 Jun 95 03:44:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23517; Sun, 11 Jun 95 03:42:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23511; Sun, 11 Jun 95 03:42:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKkRy-00038CC; Sun, 11 Jun 95 03:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joshua Hosseinoff Subject: Re: pine3.91 sometimes hangs on compose with AIX Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 05:04:20 -0400 Message-Id: References: <173B813026.DASHWORT@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <173B813026.DASHWORT@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> Status: O X-Status: This was a problem for us a long time ago and was solved by linking the program with termcap instead of curses. The only problem with that solution is that the default termcap on AIX is pretty barebones, but you can easily find a good one on some ftp sites out there. >From what I can tell, the problem may have been solved using the version 3.6 of the imap distribution (this does not mean using the imap daemon, the imap dist. is what goes in the c-client directory and what builds the c-client library), but I haven't tested it for sure as termcap works fine for us. Josh Hosseinoff hosseino@yu1.yu.edu On Fri, 9 Jun 1995, Dennis Ashworth wrote: > I have been using Pine for several months on a RISC 6000 running AIX 3.2. > Most of my users (accounts) experience no problems...but for some users, > at various times, when they go to compose a message, the program hangs > at the to name prompt. It's really strange...sometimes it works, other > times it hangs...I cann't seem to find a pattern. > I'll admit, I don't know much about configuring pine. I compiled it and > pico. I don't have a pine.conf...each user has a .pinerc file. > I'm not using imap (using pop3)...is imap necessary? > > Any help would be appreciated! I would really like to use pine as our > campus mail program, if I could just get around this "hanging" up > problem. > Dennis > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 11 12:47:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11861; Sun, 11 Jun 95 12:47:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02025; Sun, 11 Jun 95 12:33:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02019; Sun, 11 Jun 95 12:33:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKsip-00038CC; Sun, 11 Jun 95 12:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stan Mulder Subject: killfile in pine? Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 13:26:10 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is is possible to use a killfile in conjunction with Pine? If so, how? Is there a Pine faq? Please send email. Thanks. -Stan- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stan Mulder -- mulder@csee.usf.edu | Information Systems C/C++ | University of South Florida, Lakeland | Acceptance is usually the answer. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 11 13:12:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12322; Sun, 11 Jun 95 13:12:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29087; Sun, 11 Jun 95 13:08:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29081; Sun, 11 Jun 95 13:08:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKtGA-00038CC; Sun, 11 Jun 95 13:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry) Subject: Re: Bad message-ids (was PINE, please don't generate headers) Date: 11 Jun 1995 15:32:48 -0400 Message-Id: <3rfgd0$lmv@ocean.CAM.ORG> References: <3qg9at$1l0@zeus.cuci.nl> <3qieue$lbh@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> <3qj2hv$1h9@zeus.cuci.nl> <3qleqh$spn@tools.near.net> <3qr9k8$hpi@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) writes: >However, on our Solaris hosts, Pine only places the machine name on the >right side of the @, not a FQDN. Solaris's hostname(1) also returnns >just the machine name. /usr/ucb/hostname always returns the same as uname -n. After all, take a look at it, it's a shell script! But the Solaris 2.4 gethostbyname() does correctly return the FQDN. Only in Solaris 2.3 (and possibly earlier) does the problem occur. >I am told that if we were to run NIS on the Solaris machines, the problem >would fix itself (and have verified that that is the case) but that isn't >an option. If it does not occur when using NIS, then it must depend on the access method, which means the bug might be in nss_dns.so.1. On the other hand, It also occurs when using files, so maybe it's in both nss_dns.so.1 and nss_files.so.1 but not in nss_nis.so.1. Who knows? >Is there a fix to this problem, besides running NIS or NIS+? We don't >run NIS and likely never will (NIS just doesn't scale when you get into >thirty thousand or more users) and I worry that we are producing >Message-IDs on our Solaris machines that have the potential for being >non-unique. Well, you can hack PINE, like I did, but that's not really a solution. You can also upgrade to Solaris 2.4. Follow ups to comp.unix.solaris. -Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 11 14:03:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13077; Sun, 11 Jun 95 14:03:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02991; Sun, 11 Jun 95 13:58:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02985; Sun, 11 Jun 95 13:58:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKu1s-00038CC; Sun, 11 Jun 95 13:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey_Liu@brown.edu (Jeffrey Liu) Subject: Mass Bounce? Date: 11 Jun 1995 20:30:43 GMT Message-Id: <3rfjpj$1hu@cocoa.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O X-Status: Hey All... I would like to forward all my Mail in PINE (v3.91) to another account. Rather than forward it so that I get a whole bunch of mail from myself, I would like to bounce it. so that in the FROM entry, the original sender is maintained. Now, I know that with ^-; one can mark files. But in marking the files, BOUNCE is not one of the options.. FORWARD is. If anyone has any ideas, please tell me ASAP via email if you please :) Thanks for your time! JEFF :O Jeffrey_Liu@brown.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 11 14:57:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14011; Sun, 11 Jun 95 14:57:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00189; Sun, 11 Jun 95 14:54:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00183; Sun, 11 Jun 95 14:54:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKuuw-00038CC; Sun, 11 Jun 95 14:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bm608@torfree.net (Walter Yen) Subject: Where can I get a copy of Pine and Pico for AIX 4.1 ? Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 20:51:34 GMT Status: O X-Status: if you know, please email me. thank you. Walter -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | STANDARD DISCLAIMER: | | My comments and my opinions are my own, and they are not my employer's. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 11 16:11:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15328; Sun, 11 Jun 95 16:11:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04533; Sun, 11 Jun 95 16:04:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04527; Sun, 11 Jun 95 16:04:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKw1T-00038CC; Sun, 11 Jun 95 16:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jverne@r-node.io.org (J. D. Verne) Subject: Re: .pine-debug1 Date: 9 Jun 1995 02:31:03 GMT Message-Id: <3r8bp7$5k2@ionews.io.org> References: Status: O X-Status: Mark Hoover (Hoover & Nebrig, Inc) (hoovermd@hoover.com) wrote: : I am running a new version of pine3.89 and there seem to be these debug : files getting created in my home directory each time pine is run. : Did I miss something in the build ?? Or the FAQ for that matter ;) It seems to be looking for a specific file... on my system, at least. Couldn't we provide that file? I'm curious as too why my system-admin people haven't put in a dummy file. What are the reason pine produces a .debug file? -- J. D. Verne From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 11 16:19:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15502; Sun, 11 Jun 95 16:19:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01080; Sun, 11 Jun 95 16:14:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01074; Sun, 11 Jun 95 16:14:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKwA7-00038EC; Sun, 11 Jun 95 16:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kiferj@$TIN_DOMAIN (Josh Kifer) Subject: Re: pine for aix? Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 20:10:44 GMT References: <3r4tao$oaf@hecate.umd.edu> Status: O X-Status: I would also like to get a precompiled copy of pine for AIX - rs/6000 ... if anyone replied ( or didn't ) to this man, could they send me some info as well. josh Rodney Clayton (rclayton@yorick.umd.edu) wrote: : Is there a version of pine for AIX running on a rs/6000? : How much does it cost and where would I get it? : Thank's Rod From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 11 16:19:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15508; Sun, 11 Jun 95 16:19:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04695; Sun, 11 Jun 95 16:14:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04689; Sun, 11 Jun 95 16:14:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKwAE-00038HC; Sun, 11 Jun 95 16:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kiferj@$TIN_DOMAIN (Josh Kifer) Subject: Re: pine for aix? Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 20:11:19 GMT References: <3r4tao$oaf@hecate.umd.edu> Status: O X-Status: Oh yeah, my email address is kiferj@elwha.evergreen.edu thanks again josh Rodney Clayton (rclayton@yorick.umd.edu) wrote: : Is there a version of pine for AIX running on a rs/6000? : How much does it cost and where would I get it? : Thank's Rod From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 11 20:16:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19919; Sun, 11 Jun 95 20:16:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03466; Sun, 11 Jun 95 20:11:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03460; Sun, 11 Jun 95 20:11:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sKzrC-00038EC; Sun, 11 Jun 95 20:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ctanczos@goliat.eik.bme.hu (TANCZOS Csaba) Subject: PINE question Date: 9 Jun 1995 09:21:39 +0200 Message-Id: <3r8sq3$nfi@goliat.eik.bme.hu> Status: O X-Status: Hello, DOes anybody happen to know how I could automatically group incoming letters in my INBOX? Or how could I get PINE to spearate my mail automatically depending on the sender ? I heard something about a program 'procmail' but I have no idea where I could find it. Thank you very much, Csaba Tanczos Hungary From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 12 02:50:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27724; Mon, 12 Jun 95 02:50:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12456; Mon, 12 Jun 95 02:44:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12450; Mon, 12 Jun 95 02:44:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sL5vh-00038CC; Mon, 12 Jun 95 02:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry) Subject: PINE, please don't generate headers Date: 26 May 1995 18:28:05 -0400 Message-Id: <3q5kll$5pa@ocean.CAM.ORG> Status: O X-Status: Quite a while ago, I noticed that the message IDs of the messages coming from PINE do not use the FQDN of the sending host. The reason? It does a simple uname() call (or something similar, I forget) to fetch the node name, which is not the FQDN. I left this alone because it's not a big deal. But IMHO it would be better to not generate any such headers and leave the task to the MTS. That's how it works with most/all other MUAs. Recently, I ran into the same problem with From: lines. Not all of our users live under the same domain name. We have some which are mapped to other names (different domain name, possibly different username) using sendmail 8.6.x's userdb facility. Our mail configuration accomodates this well. But PINE insists on slapping a constant string on the end of the username. The solution I've used for both problems is the same: supress the generation of the Message-ID: and From: headers in outgoing mail & news. Why doesn't PINE work that way in the first place? It doesn't make sense for the MUA to compute the correct values of those headers. It makes many MUAs to configure when we could get away with only configuring the MDA. Not to mention complex configurations supported by sendmail but not some or all MUAs! My 2 cents... If anyone is interested in my patches to pine-3.91 to supress these headers (including the implementation of posting via inews since it was previously unimplemented), mail me. -Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 12 05:52:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02403; Mon, 12 Jun 95 05:52:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09309; Mon, 12 Jun 95 05:35:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09303; Mon, 12 Jun 95 05:35:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sL8hq-00038CC; Mon, 12 Jun 95 05:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Petter Blomberg Z/JV Subject: Content-Transfer-Encoding Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 14:31:36 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Most of my friends use Mailtool and we have some strange characters here in Sweden that doesn't look nice when inside mail posted with pine. I'd like the Content-Transfer-Encoding to be 8BIT instead of QUOTED-PRINTABLE. Is it possible with pine? /Petter Blomberg /"""\ ( o o ) o00 ( ) 00o ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Petter Blomberg, LM/ERA/Z/JV | Application Center for Mobile Ericsson Radio Systems AB | Switching and Radio Networks Box 1248 | S-581 12 LINKOPING | Switchboard: +46 (0)13 28 73 00 SWEDEN | Fax: +46 (0)13 28 73 70 | Tel: +46 (0)13 28:4630 | E-mail: qrablog@lmera.ericsson.se ECN: 868 4630 | MEMO: ERI.EXTR.QRABLOG Home: +46 (0)13 21 02 36 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 12 08:59:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08231; Mon, 12 Jun 95 08:59:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17505; Mon, 12 Jun 95 08:36:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.crl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17499; Mon, 12 Jun 95 08:36:45 -0700 Received: from crl.crl.com (crl.com) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA14995 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 12 Jun 1995 08:35:25 -0700 Received: by crl.crl.com id AA08318 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Mon, 12 Jun 1995 08:35:24 -0700 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 08:35:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "UST Inc." To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Problems! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: My company uses pine to send out sales lead files to our clients. As of last Friday 6-9 ALL of our mail has been sent back stating Host Unknown. We know that are addresses are good and have sent our leads out to the field via the internet for the past 3 years. Can anyone tell me what's wrong? Thank you Alan Hale UST Inc. 404-381-6000 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 12 10:30:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12998; Mon, 12 Jun 95 10:30:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20158; Mon, 12 Jun 95 10:21:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20152; Mon, 12 Jun 95 10:21:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sLD77-00038LC; Mon, 12 Jun 95 10:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: HOW DO YOU WORK MIME? In-Reply-To: sugarman@mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM's message of 7 Jun 1995 17: 06:18 -0700 Message-Id: References: Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 17:00:35 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article sugarman@mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (Don Sugarman) writes: On Tue, 6 Jun 1995, Glenn Graham wrote: > Does anybody out there know how to take a mime file and > make it readable using pine 3.91? I presume you are receiving MIMEd attachments that are not recognized by Pine as attachments. This could be because the sending mail user agent (MUA) is not providing the necessary separator. Anyway, you can save the MIMEd file and decode it using munpack. If you need a copy of munpack, let me know and I will email you a copy attached to a Pine message. Let me know if you need the SUN Unix or DOS version. Here's an additional hint we have added to our local copy of the munpack(1) man page: NOTES If a MIME message is forwarded using a non-MIME compliant mailer, its MIME encoding will not be recognized. To fix this, save the message as a file and edit the file. Look for the first Content-Type: mail header, and copy that header into the first "paragraph" of mail headers, somewhere after its first line. -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 12 11:01:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14713; Mon, 12 Jun 95 11:01:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15313; Mon, 12 Jun 95 10:51:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15307; Mon, 12 Jun 95 10:51:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sLDZL-00038CC; Mon, 12 Jun 95 10:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edhill@strobe.weeg.uiowa.edu (Ed Hill) Subject: Email purging policies. Date: 12 Jun 1995 15:01:24 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Hello, We are currently re-evaluating our policy for handling email. We have a large number of users and need to come up with an acceptable way of purging old/large mailboxes. I am trying to gather information regarding other large/similar sites. If you can take just a couple of minutes to answer the following, I would greatly appreciate it. I would be happy to collect and summarize responses if there is interest. * How many messages can someone have waiting/stored? * Is there a limit on the size of individual messages? * Is there a limit on the size of all stored messages? * Do you have a central store for all messages or just for new messages? * How long can messages go unread? * How long can messages be stored? * Can you attach files? * What tools are available for managing e-mail? (folders, filter, etc...) * How do you deal with exceeding limitations? (Delete, Archive, Warn, Return to sender). -Ed Hill (ed-hill@uiowa.edu) Systems Administrator - Information Technology Services - University of Iowa "I am Homer of Borg, prepare to be assim... Ooooooooh donuts!" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 12 13:02:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20743; Mon, 12 Jun 95 13:02:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24278; Mon, 12 Jun 95 12:58:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24272; Mon, 12 Jun 95 12:58:42 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17102; Mon, 12 Jun 95 12:58:40 -0700 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 12:58:35 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Micheal Shallop Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pop3/port 143 In-Reply-To: <1995Jun1.224447@mshallop.sc.scruznet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 1 Jun 1995, Micheal Shallop wrote: > Using pop3 on port 110... > inbox-path={host.provider.com}INBOX This is using the default of IMAP on port 143, not pop3 or port 110... > inetd.conf and services set-up ok... > > I start pine and get error - > can't connect to service.provider.com,143 - connection refused > Apparently imapd is not installed and/or configured in inetd.conf... > What am I not setting up that's causing pine to go out > to port 143 and not port 110? > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 12 13:22:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22064; Mon, 12 Jun 95 13:22:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25015; Mon, 12 Jun 95 13:18:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25009; Mon, 12 Jun 95 13:18:34 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18888; Mon, 12 Jun 95 13:18:29 -0700 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 13:18:23 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Debbie Kesling Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Followup-to:? Reply-to? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, Debbie Kesling wrote: > Thanks! I had a few other folks email me with this info, > so that is how I set it up. It seems to work fine when > I type "F" to followup my post via tin, but when I am > reading the newsgroup post with PINE, it wants to > post to ALL the newsgroups... > True. Actually, I'm surprised we haven't seen more complaints about that Pine limitation...... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 12 13:39:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22612; Mon, 12 Jun 95 13:39:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25309; Mon, 12 Jun 95 13:31:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25303; Mon, 12 Jun 95 13:31:38 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20611; Mon, 12 Jun 95 13:31:26 -0700 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 13:31:20 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Stefan Hougardy Cc: Ian Russell Ollmann , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: customized-hdrs does not work ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 6 Jun 1995, Stefan Hougardy wrote: > > Hello, > I set customized-hdrs=Return-Receipt-To: xx@yy.zz > in the .pinerc file, but it is ignored. I am using pine 3.89. > Is this option not available in this version ? Or do I have > to set any additional options ? Thanks for your help. > Stefan > > The customized-hdrs option was not implemented until Pine 3.90, please ask your system administrator to upgrade to the current Pine 3.91 release... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 12 13:46:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23164; Mon, 12 Jun 95 13:46:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25545; Mon, 12 Jun 95 13:41:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25539; Mon, 12 Jun 95 13:41:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sLGFy-00038CC; Mon, 12 Jun 95 13:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aquinn@hookup.net (Liam Quinn) Subject: What encoding method does PINE use by default? Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 20:13:55 GMT Message-Id: <3ri7fs$d40@remus.wat.hookup.net> Status: O X-Status: What encoding method does PINE use by default--MIME or uu? Will it automatically decode either? Please e-mail replies, if possible. Thanks for your time, Liam Quinn aquinn@hookup.net http://www.hookup.net/~aquinn/liam.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 12 13:50:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23411; Mon, 12 Jun 95 13:50:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19385; Mon, 12 Jun 95 13:48:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19379; Mon, 12 Jun 95 13:48:27 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21160; Mon, 12 Jun 95 13:48:20 -0700 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 13:48:13 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "J. D. Verne" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: .pine-debug1 In-Reply-To: <3r8bp7$5k2@ionews.io.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The default is for Pine to _always_ produce and keep the last four .pine-debug files. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 9 Jun 1995, J. D. Verne wrote: > Mark Hoover (Hoover & Nebrig, Inc) (hoovermd@hoover.com) wrote: > > : I am running a new version of pine3.89 and there seem to be these debug > : files getting created in my home directory each time pine is run. > > : Did I miss something in the build ?? Or the FAQ for that matter ;) > > It seems to be looking for a specific file... on my system, at least. > Couldn't we provide that file? I'm curious as too why my system-admin > people haven't put in a dummy file. What are the reason pine produces a > .debug file? > > -- > J. D. Verne > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL9yoEd/IU4uTDdHNAQH1zAH+I7h1QHtIVpur9D352VBc/g6cNilCiU2H Z3bElpoZJqbxdZiUK8iy9LvSRn/4ZccKUjVlmDjskhYmSI9heeU0LQ== =WW2J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 12 13:56:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23644; Mon, 12 Jun 95 13:56:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25666; Mon, 12 Jun 95 13:47:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25657; Mon, 12 Jun 95 13:47:54 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20926; Mon, 12 Jun 95 13:42:53 -0700 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 13:42:44 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Rodney Clayton , Josh Kifer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine for aix? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 7 Jun 1995, Rodney Clayton wrote: > Is there a version of pine for AIX running on a rs/6000? > How much does it cost and where would I get it? Pine for AIX 3.2 on RS/6000 is available (free!) in ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin/pine-bin.a32 |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL9ymyd/IU4uTDdHNAQHPYAH9HGKa6drtkDbO4/ZgS8iNkVZTBBNdiys7 df7EJy+BfcO3MNyfqJ4yr44WnKJ6OmYv8p+dkHBn+Xz94teLfTb5IQ== =Y3P7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 12 14:29:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25661; Mon, 12 Jun 95 14:29:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20107; Mon, 12 Jun 95 14:21:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20101; Mon, 12 Jun 95 14:21:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sLGsV-00038CC; Mon, 12 Jun 95 14:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Sylvia Wong) Date: 12 Jun 1995 20:52:07 GMT Message-Id: Subject: cmsg cancel <3rhoha$c3c@news.asiaonline.net> Control: cancel <3rhoha$c3c@news.asiaonline.net> Status: O X-Status: Spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 12 15:39:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29329; Mon, 12 Jun 95 15:39:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28179; Mon, 12 Jun 95 15:33:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28173; Mon, 12 Jun 95 15:33:29 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id SAA18857; Mon, 12 Jun 1995 18:33:20 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id SAA04119; Mon, 12 Jun 1995 18:33:18 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA09459; Mon, 12 Jun 95 18:31:54 EDT Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 18:31:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Liam Quinn Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: What encoding method does PINE use by default? In-Reply-To: <3ri7fs$d40@remus.wat.hookup.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 12 Jun 1995, Liam Quinn wrote: > What encoding method does PINE use by default--MIME or uu? > > Will it automatically decode either? > MIME. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 12 16:26:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01563; Mon, 12 Jun 95 16:26:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29457; Mon, 12 Jun 95 16:22:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29451; Mon, 12 Jun 95 16:22:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sLInZ-00038CC; Mon, 12 Jun 95 16:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "M.W.Belles" Subject: Help needed to limit scope of postings (fwd) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 15:43:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have read in various FAQ's that it is possible to post to a limited geographic area. I just posted to misc.wanted, and I was hoping that PINE would allow me to limit my posting to my local area, but it didn't. Did I miss a switch somewhere? I'd really appreciate some help as I do not want to pollute everyone's newgroup lists with worthless messages. Thanks, Mark Belles From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 12 16:55:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02706; Mon, 12 Jun 95 16:55:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23320; Mon, 12 Jun 95 16:52:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23313; Mon, 12 Jun 95 16:52:30 -0700 Received: from opava.utia.cas.cz by visla.utia.cas.cz with SMTP (16.7/16.2) id AA02148; Tue, 13 Jun 95 01:50:30 +0200 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 00:49:11 -0200 (CDT) From: "Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD?=) at Opava.UTIA.CAS.Cz" To: The Pine Discussion List Subject: Bug in showing plus (+) sign X-Sender: vs@visla.utia.cas.cz Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: Hallo! I've just found that if I received mail which is addressed directly to=20 me but the To: line spawns into two lines and my address=20 () is at the second line, pine doesn't display the plus=20 sign indicating the mail is directly for me (in difference from the mail=20 from a mailing list). This should be corrected in pine 3.92 because the=20 long names will be more often (as David Miller promissed, RFC 1522 WILL=20 be implemented ...). So this is a suggestion for the pine team and a=20 warning for others ... Regards V. S. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz Europe Files (with description!) place to ftp://ftp.utia.cas.cz/pub/income/vs Maybe valid: http://www.utia.cas.cz/home/WWW/data/user_data/vs/vs-home.http From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 12 17:39:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04925; Mon, 12 Jun 95 17:39:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24433; Mon, 12 Jun 95 17:37:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24427; Mon, 12 Jun 95 17:37:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sLJxl-00038CC; Mon, 12 Jun 95 17:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: pine for aix? Date: 12 Jun 1995 14:29:48 -0500 Message-Id: <3ri4jc$b8h@oink.cs.utexas.edu> References: <3r4tao$oaf@hecate.umd.edu> Status: O X-Status: [ rclayton@yorick.umd.edu (Rodney Clayton) wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] -> Is there a version of pine for AIX running on a rs/6000? Yes. I compiled PINE for an IBM machine running AIX 2.3 -> How much does it cost and where would I get it? Nothing. If you or anybody else is interested I can put it on my ftp site. Ananda -- Ananda M. Kar |(H)458-9754 | URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/ananda/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 12 17:51:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05253; Mon, 12 Jun 95 17:51:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01581; Mon, 12 Jun 95 17:47:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01575; Mon, 12 Jun 95 17:47:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0sLK5F-00038CC; Mon, 12 Jun 95 17:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: Re: reading mail in PC, possible? Message-Id: References: Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 03:44:33 GMT Status: O X-Status: In the simtel archives there is a program called "readmail" that will allow you to read *and* manipulate pine folders without needing to convert them to pc ascii. It is not an offline mailer... reads mail but can not "send" mail. What I do, when can't have direct connection with my host... is to download (from a friend's machine) all my inbox... then read it and manipulate it with readmail, and if I need to write... I do use "pico" for pc... compose the mail... and then I upload and when in pine (unix) use the ^R (read file)... Clunky but effective. Waiting for the day that pine *is* an offline mailer :) Pucho From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 13 06:39:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22557; Tue, 13 Jun 95 06:39:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03114; Tue, 13 Jun 95 06:30:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha.loyno.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03108; Tue, 13 Jun 95 06:30:41 -0700 Received: by alpha.loyno.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/22Jul94-0234PM) id AA03455; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 10:32:03 +0200 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 10:32:03 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mary Aplin To: pine Subject: Print-to-attached-ansi problems Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello PINEers -- I am running pine on an Alpha 3300 w/OSFv2. I'm connecting to my alpha via Kermit (v.99) on my Macintosh IIcx running system 7.0.1. When I print a message to "attached-to-ansi" I then issue to "print captured text" command from kermit. Kermit then tells "Printing is being terminated because there is not enough memory." When this happens I still have 5055 unused blocks of memory. (5 meg). Has anyone else had this problem? Any ideas?? Thanks for any suggestions!!! Mary Aplin Loyola University, New Orleans From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 13 07:20:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23469; Tue, 13 Jun 95 07:20:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12601; Tue, 13 Jun 95 07:12:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.bridgeway.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12595; Tue, 13 Jun 95 07:12:48 -0700 Received: by server.bridgeway.com id <207667>; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 07:12:54 -0700 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 07:12:43 -0700 From: Andrew Le To: Mary Aplin Cc: pine Subject: Re: Print-to-attached-ansi problems In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Try allocating more memory to Kermit using "Get Info." Or do you have 32-bit addressing turned on? just some things to look for... ================================================================== Andrew Le support@server.bridgeway.com Bridgeway Corporation 206-881-4270 Bridging the Gap in Network Mgt. 206-861-1774 fax ================================================================== On Tue, 13 Jun 1995, Mary Aplin wrote: > Hello PINEers -- > > I am running pine on an Alpha 3300 w/OSFv2. I'm connecting to my alpha > via Kermit (v.99) on my Macintosh IIcx running system 7.0.1. When I print > a message to "attached-to-ansi" I then issue to "print captured text" > command from kermit. Kermit then tells "Printing is being terminated > because there is not enough memory." When this happens I still have > 5055 unused blocks of memory. (5 meg). Has anyone else had this problem? > Any ideas?? > > Thanks for any suggestions!!! > > Mary Aplin > Loyola University, New Orleans > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 13 11:51:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05584; Tue, 13 Jun 95 11:51:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09855; Tue, 13 Jun 95 11:46:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09849; Tue, 13 Jun 95 11:46:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLPAB-000395C; Mon, 12 Jun 95 23:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dfox@geosun1.sjsu.edu (Dennis Fox) Subject: Re: how to get rid of debug files? (tried pine -d0) Date: 13 Jun 1995 05:17:08 GMT Message-Id: <3rj70k$2s6@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Mike Newton (miken@iceonline.com) wrote: : way), but if anyone's found a way around it, i'd like to know. it's kind I haven't found a way to prevent the creation of them, but I put the line rm ~/pine-debug* in my .logout file. That seems to keep the little pests under control. -- *********************************************************************** Dennis Fox -- Geology Department -- San Jose State University dfox@geosun1.sjsu.edu http://geosun1.sjsu.edu/~dfox PGP public key available via finger Key fingerprint = 25 3B A7 C6 29 62 D6 5F E8 E1 6E E3 7D 9F D9 79 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 13 11:52:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05692; Tue, 13 Jun 95 11:52:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19647; Tue, 13 Jun 95 11:43:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19641; Tue, 13 Jun 95 11:43:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLOH3-00038CC; Mon, 12 Jun 95 22:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zenith@stang.netspace.net.au (Zenith) Subject: Changing mail name? Date: 12 Jun 1995 12:25:29 GMT Message-Id: <3rhbnp$4p2@otis.netspace.net.au> Status: O X-Status: Hello ppls, Can someone please tell me how to change my name that is attached to my mail? I assume it is a setenv command such as IRCNAME but do not know what it is. I can change my name permanentyl using the "chfn" and "chpass" command but would like to be able to change it so it just effects my e-mail. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanx in advance. Jason. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 13 11:55:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05839; Tue, 13 Jun 95 11:55:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19756; Tue, 13 Jun 95 11:48:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19750; Tue, 13 Jun 95 11:48:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLQa7-0003AOC; Tue, 13 Jun 95 00:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Where can I get a copy of Pine and Pico for AIX 4.1 ? Date: 13 Jun 1995 02:22:21 GMT Message-Id: <3risot$tm1@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Walter Yen wrote: >if you know, please email me. thank you. The Pine/Pico sources for AIX 3.2.5 don't compile cleanly under AIX 4.1. If you have a 3.2.5 box around, compile it on that box and move the binaries; otherwise, get a copy of the 3.2.5 binaries available as ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin/*.a32. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 13 12:03:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06170; Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:03:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10178; Tue, 13 Jun 95 11:59:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10172; Tue, 13 Jun 95 11:59:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLTgR-0003CKC; Tue, 13 Jun 95 03:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phil@ERC.MsState.Edu (Phillip Moore) Subject: Pine and POP3 mail reading Date: 13 Jun 1995 02:41:32 GMT Message-Id: <3ritss$k83@NNTP.MsState.Edu> Status: O X-Status: Can pine3.91 be configured to read news off of a Novell pop3 server? It would get your mail off the server without you having to do run any external programs. Thank you, -- Hollernet: Phillip Moore PhoneNet: home : 601.324.0531 WorkNet : NSF, Engineering office: 601.325.4023 (voice mail) Research Center FaxNet : 601.325.7692 Systems Administration WWWnet: http://www.erc.msstate.edu/~phil/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 13 12:03:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06234; Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:03:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19989; Tue, 13 Jun 95 11:58:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19983; Tue, 13 Jun 95 11:58:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLS8Z-0003BUC; Tue, 13 Jun 95 02:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: henrik@ida.his.se (Henrik Nordstrom) Subject: Pine and MH folders Date: 11 Jun 1995 12:22:09 GMT Message-Id: <3ren5h$r6t@mhost.ida.his.se> Status: O X-Status: We have one BIG problem with pine: It can't create new MH folders. Whenever i trie to add a new folder i get the following error message: Can't create mailbox #mh/newfolder: No such file or directory I posted this one time before, but i never got any helpful answer (well.. one of the developers said that the problem wasn't in his part of the code...) --- Henrik Nordstrom University of Skoevde Sweden From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 13 12:05:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06446; Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:05:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20106; Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:01:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20100; Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:01:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLVoM-0003DtC; Tue, 13 Jun 95 06:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ye@maia.cl.au.ac.th (Ye Tun) Subject: How do i set? Date: 13 Jun 1995 12:39:01 GMT Message-Id: <3rk0t5$o2e@abac.au.ac.th> Status: O X-Status: Hi guys, How do i set Reply To: header in pine? I am using pine 3.91 and i don't see any options in .pinerc file. What should i do? Is it possiable to set it? If you wish to answer me, please mail me to ye@maia.au.ac.th since our news server is a week or two old. Thanks.. -- REgards, *[ Ye ]* \```\ || ) O O ) || +--++--------.oOOo--U--ooOo-------++--+ +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ \ Ye Tun \ | I am so tired! | \ Computer Laboratory \ | Can anyone | \ Assumption University \ | HELP ME! | \ Bangkok 10240, Thailand \ |______ ,____________| \ \ | / \ ye@maia.cl.au.ac.th \ |/ \ +66-2-3004543 ext 3672-5 \ ,__o +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=Oooo.=-=-=-=-=-=#-----_-\_<, .oooO ( ) (*)/`(*) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 13 12:06:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06485; Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:06:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10122; Tue, 13 Jun 95 11:58:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10116; Tue, 13 Jun 95 11:58:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLREL-0003AnC; Tue, 13 Jun 95 01:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: alan@jac.co.uk (Alan Murphy) Subject: pine not sending out mail Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 15:54:24 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi, I have recently loaded pine 3.91 onto our UnixWare 1.1 system for a colleague. However, after a week or so of pine appearing to work ok, it now does not send out *any* mail, although there is no error (pine seems to think that it is OK), and worse, no evidence of the mail anywhere :-(. Elm, mailx etc seem to be working fine. Anyone any ideas ? -- Alan Murphy jAC, Hemel Hempstead, Herts, England. Tel: +44-(0)442-235515 Fax: +44-(0)442-233515 email:alan@jac.co.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 13 12:09:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06790; Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:09:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10364; Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:05:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10356; Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:05:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLYyp-0003H0C; Tue, 13 Jun 95 09:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Changing mail name? Date: 13 Jun 1995 15:13:10 GMT Message-Id: <3rk9u6$6r2@grape.epix.net> References: <3rhbnp$4p2@otis.netspace.net.au> Status: O X-Status: Zenith (zenith@stang.netspace.net.au) wrote: : Can someone please tell me how to change my name that is attached : to my mail? I assume it is a setenv command such as IRCNAME but do : not know what it is. I can change my name permanentyl using the : "chfn" and "chpass" command but would like to be able to change it : so it just effects my e-mail. Any suggestions would be : appreciated. Thanx in advance. : Jason. Assuming you're using pine 3.9+, from main pine menu type (S)etup (C)onfig (C)hange, then change your name and type (E)xit, done!! G'Day. /\ /~~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\/\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\| Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH /_/__\/_/___/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|__ m From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 13 12:11:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06907; Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:11:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10247; Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:03:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10241; Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:03:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLX7W-0003F6C; Tue, 13 Jun 95 07:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Guy BRAND Subject: Enhancement : INCOMING FOLDERS login name Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 00:13:20 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi, Would it be possible to let the user specify the login names Pine should use for each of the INBOXes it's checking for mail ? With PC Pine you just give your login name for the "main" INBOX folder and it's used for all others INBOXes you might want to check with Pine too... each time you have to give both login and password, it would be nice to be able to give the login name for each IMAP server within the Setup (pinerc) file. GB ___ ___ Guy BRAND - Guy.Brand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr - ==== / |\/ |\ ___________________________________________ =---==== / |/ || Web : http://wwwchimie.u-strasbg.fr/GB.html =-----==== / /| /| || or Internet : gizmo@fondation.u-strasbg.fr ==---===== /_/ |__/ |_|| ======== \_\/\__\/\_\|oins on pense, plus on parle (MONTESQUIEU). ==== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 13 12:13:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07045; Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:13:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20186; Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:04:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20180; Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:04:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLYbW-0003GqC; Tue, 13 Jun 95 09:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: korenman@umbc.edu (Joan Korenman) Subject: Re: Reply-to (was how do I set?) Date: 13 Jun 1995 10:55:11 -0400 Message-Id: <3rk8sf$grd@umbc7.umbc.edu> References: <3rk0t5$o2e@abac.au.ac.th> Status: O X-Status: In article <3rk0t5$o2e@abac.au.ac.th>, Ye Tun wrote: >How do i set Reply To: header in pine? I am using pine 3.91 and i don't >see any options in .pinerc file. What should i do? Is it possiable to >set it? I DID find an option for customized-hdrs in the .pinerc file, toward the end, but I can't get it to work. I filled it it so that it read as follows: customized-hdrs=Reply-to= , and when I then ask for rich headers, a reply-to line appears for me to fill in, but when I do, it doesn't work. I've tried several times to several different addresses, including a list on which I've used the Reply-to feature successfully in the past (from a different account). Is there something I'm overlooking? Do I need to enclose something in quotation marks? I've tried to read online help info and as many past messages from this newsgroup as I have access to, but I'm still stumped. I'd appreciate help. Joan Korenman ***************************************************************************** * Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc.edu * * U. of Md. Baltimore County or * * Baltimore, MD 21228-5398 korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu * * * * The only person to have everything done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe * ***************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 13 12:23:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07765; Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:23:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20604; Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:18:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20598; Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:18:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLbPG-00038HC; Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Barnett Subject: Re: Entering French Characters into Pine (Pico) - ANSWER! Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 09:31:01 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Sorry, I took so long responding to the requests for the info on how to modify UNIX (non-DOS) PICO to allow for foreign character input. As has been pointed out to me by some of the respondents to my original post , using this modification from within PINE to try and send mail with accented characters can result in mixed results. Not all computers on the Internet will pass on 8 bit characters in mail messages. Consequently, these characters will sometimes get sent without there 8th bit causing lost characters. In our environment we have no problem sending mail with 8 bit characters internally, but your mileage may vary. All the machines in our environment are set for 8 bit. One way to solve this 8 bit - 7 bit problem is to create your mail message in pico (outside of PINE) UUENCODE or ROT it and mail the resulting file. At least now you will be able to enter all your foreign characters into PICO. The following modifications were made to the pico.c program found in version 3.91 of Pine. Beginning at line 372 Old Code ======== #ifdef DOS if (c>=0x20 && c<=0xFF) { #else if ((c>=0x20 && c<=0x7E) || (c>=0xA0 && c<=0xFE)) { /* Self inserting. */ #endif New Code ======== #ifdef DOS if (c>=0x20 && c<=0xFF) { #else if ((c>=0x20 && c<=0x7E) || (c>=0x80 && c<=0xFE)) { /* Self inserting. */ #endif As you can see the only difference is in the #else line. I changed the 0xA0 to 0x80. I am not sure why the range containing most of the foreign characters was purposefully excluded, but I included them and have had no problems. Ian Barnett Mgr, Sys Admin & Support George Brown College Toronto, Ont. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 13 12:40:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08638; Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:40:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11020; Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:33:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11014; Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:33:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLbdu-00038CC; Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gregg Brekke Subject: Re: pine not sending out mail Date: 13 Jun 1995 14:18:55 GMT Message-Id: <3rk6of$eqv@genesis.member.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: alan@jac.co.uk (Alan Murphy) wrote: >I have recently loaded pine 3.91 onto our UnixWare 1.1 system for a >colleague. However, after a week or so of pine appearing to work >ok, it now does not send out *any* mail, although there is no error >(pine seems to think that it is OK), and worse, no evidence of the >mail anywhere :-(. Elm, mailx etc seem to be working fine. > >Anyone any ideas ? Make sure you are setting the "smtp-server=" variable to the fqdn of your mail server/forwarder in the .pinerc file. I am running Solaris 2.4 and UnixWare, both of these systems can't send mail from Pine without this variable set. There is probably a better way to fix this through a code patch, but this seems to solve the problem. Later, Gregg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 13 14:08:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13192; Tue, 13 Jun 95 14:08:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13232; Tue, 13 Jun 95 14:04:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tjuvm.TJU.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13226; Tue, 13 Jun 95 14:04:07 -0700 Received: from physres1.uns.tju.EDU by TJUVM.TJU.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 13 Jun 95 17:04:03 EDT Received: from PHYSICAL_RESOURCES/MERC_QUEUE by physres1.uns.tju.EDU (Mercury 1.11); Tue, 13 Jun 95 17:04:59 EST -0300 Received: from MERC_QUEUE by PHYSICAL_RESOURCES (Mercury 1.11); Tue, 13 Jun 95 17:04:22 EST -0300 From: "DGladney" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 17:04:17 EDT Subject: Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-Id: <1B8F721106B@physres1.uns.tju.EDU> Status: O X-Status: subscribe pine-info /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// W. Dean Gladney Computer Application Coordinator Thomas Jefferson University Philadelphia, PA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 13 14:28:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13829; Tue, 13 Jun 95 14:28:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23638; Tue, 13 Jun 95 14:24:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Sun.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23630; Tue, 13 Jun 95 14:24:21 -0700 Received: from snail.Sun.COM ([129.145.1.3]) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA16154; Tue, 13 Jun 95 14:24:18 PDT Received: from Sunmexico.Sun.COM (sunmex.Sunmexico.Sun.COM) by snail.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03629; Tue, 13 Jun 95 14:24:16 PDT Received: by Sunmexico.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-5.3-900117) id AA22089; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 15:27:17 +0600 >Received: from sycmail.UUCP by invisible.noname (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24983; Tue, 13 Jun 95 15:05:01 CST Received: from invisible by sunmex.sunmex.sunmexico.Sun.COM; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 15:27 CST Received: from sycmail.UUCP by invisible.noname (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24983; Tue, 13 Jun 95 15:05:01 CST Received: by sycmail. (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA09101; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 10:31:17 -0600 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 10:31:16 -0600 (CST) From: "E. Isaias Callejas M." To: Pine List Subject: Who are you..??? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1131 Status: O X-Status: Hi guys, I have got the executables programs of "pine" and "pico" from "ftp.cac.washington.edu" for work on Sequent Systems with Dynix/ptx V4.x.x, I don't have problems with "pico" but when I execute "pine", it send me a message like : "who are you? (unable to look up login name)" I don't know if this program was compiled under a standard environment or I have to do something more... The useraccounts work with ksh, and csh; and variables like "$USER", "$LOGNAME" are initialized correctly... Why "pine" send me this message..??? I hope this question is not a FAQ, if is it, really sorry, I'm not subscribed in this list... then please, reply me directly.... Thank's in advance... ========================================================================== E. Isaias Callejas Mancilla Sistemas y Computadores de Gestion SEQUENT Systems Support Engineer Av. Revolucion #2042 8o. piso "The men learn while teach..." C.P. 01090, San Angel, Mexico D.F. email:isma%sycmail.uucp@sunmexico.sun.com Tel. & Fax (525)550 07 40 ========================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 13 15:23:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15741; Tue, 13 Jun 95 15:23:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24684; Tue, 13 Jun 95 15:18:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24678; Tue, 13 Jun 95 15:18:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLeDv-00038OC; Tue, 13 Jun 95 15:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nmycs@mirac.unm.edu (Chris P. Sharp) Subject: specifying a directory to export to? Date: 13 Jun 1995 15:51:11 GMT Message-Id: <3rkc5f$gs5@lynx.unm.edu> Status: O X-Status: I was wondering if there's a way to export a message to any directory specified when in Pine. It seems to only export to the home directory. Thanks for any info. Chris Sharp From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 13 15:57:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17478; Tue, 13 Jun 95 15:57:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15347; Tue, 13 Jun 95 15:53:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15341; Tue, 13 Jun 95 15:53:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLenD-00038CC; Tue, 13 Jun 95 15:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: swong@pobox.com (Sylvia Wong) Date: 1 Jun 1995 16:55:23 GMT Message-Id: Subject: cmsg cancel <3qk3cn$c91@news.asiaonline.net> Control: cancel <3qk3cn$c91@news.asiaonline.net> Status: O X-Status: Spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 13 16:50:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20426; Tue, 13 Jun 95 16:50:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26611; Tue, 13 Jun 95 16:43:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26605; Tue, 13 Jun 95 16:43:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLfc1-00038CC; Tue, 13 Jun 95 16:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Vern Roseman Subject: Re: Automated Reply...How to setup? Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 12:52:17 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3odc18$r2a@news.missouri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3odc18$r2a@news.missouri.edu> Status: O X-Status: test From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 13 18:38:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24110; Tue, 13 Jun 95 18:38:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18129; Tue, 13 Jun 95 18:29:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18123; Tue, 13 Jun 95 18:29:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLhCM-00038CC; Tue, 13 Jun 95 18:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: david@services.more.net (David Drum) Subject: Re: Restricted Pico ? Date: 13 Jun 1995 17:29:18 GMT Message-Id: <3rkhte$hrh@news.missouri.edu> References: <3qusge$5hk@news.rrz.uni-koeln.de> Status: O X-Status: Alina Bartsch (a2246341@athena.rrz.uni-koeln.de) wrote: : I will use the eitor pico in a application. : I will that the user cannot change the filename (is an parameter) : an not use the file browser. : Could I define this in the environment or as parameters? You have to edit the source code. Use "pico -r filename". Here is the patch: Regards, David david@services.more.net #####Patch 1#################################################################### diff -crw pine3.91/pico/main.c spine3.91/pico/main.c *** pine3.91/pico/main.c Mon Sep 12 13:32:15 1994 --- spine3.91/pico/main.c Wed Apr 5 09:24:39 1995 *************** *** 138,143 **** --- 138,146 ---- case 'w': /* -w turn off word wrap */ gmode ^= MDWRAP; break; + /*APG*/ case 'r': /* -r keep users from editing filename or getting out of work directory */ + /*APG*/ gmode ^= MDSCUR; + /*APG*/ break; #if defined(DOS) case 'c': /* -c[nr][fb] colors */ if(carg + 1 < argc){ diff -crw pine3.91/pico/file.c spine3.91/pico/file.c *** pine3.91/pico/file.c Tue Oct 11 18:47:07 1994 --- spine3.91/pico/file.c Wed Jun 7 14:48:02 1995 *************** *** 332,343 **** else fname[0] = '\0'; menu_write[0].name = "^T"; menu_write[0].label = "To Files"; menu_write[1].name = NULL; for(;;){ ! s = mlreplyd("File Name to write : ", fname, NFILEN, ! QDEFLT|QFFILE, menu_write); fixpath(fname, NFILEN); /* fixup ~ in file name */ --- 338,354 ---- else fname[0] = '\0'; + /*APG*/ if (gmode&MDSCUR) + /*APG*/ menu_write[0].name = NULL; + /*APG*/ else { menu_write[0].name = "^T"; menu_write[0].label = "To Files"; menu_write[1].name = NULL; + /*APG*/ } /* else */ for(;;){ ! /*APG*/ if (!(gmode&MDSCUR)) ! s = mlreplyd("File Name to write : ", fname, NFILEN, QDEFLT|QFFILE, menu_write); ! /*APG*/ else s = TRUE; fixpath(fname, NFILEN); /* fixup ~ in file name */ ################################################################################ However, this may restrict things more than you want. Here are some optional patches: #####Patch 2#################################################################### diff -crw pine3.91/pico/browse.c spine3.91/pico/browse.c *** pine3.91/pico/browse.c Tue Sep 27 11:19:48 1994 --- spine3.91/pico/browse.c Mon Apr 3 17:46:04 1995 *************** *** 466,472 **** break; } ! if(gmode&MDSCUR){ /* not allowed! */ emlwrite("Delete not allowed in restricted mode",NULL); break; } --- 466,472 ---- break; } ! /*APG*/ if ((gmode&MDSCUR) && homeless (gmp->current->fname)) { emlwrite("Delete not allowed in restricted mode",NULL); break; } *************** *** 576,582 **** break; } ! if((gmode&MDSCUR) && homeless(child)){ emlwrite("Restricted mode browsing limited to home directory",NULL); break; } --- 576,582 ---- break; } ! /*APG*/ if((gmode&MDSCUR) && homeless(child)){ emlwrite("Restricted mode browsing limited to home directory",NULL); break; } *************** *** 610,616 **** break; } ! if(gmode&MDSCUR){ /* not allowed! */ emlwrite("Copy not allowed in restricted mode",NULL); break; } --- 610,616 ---- break; } ! /*APG*/ if ((gmode&MDSCUR) && homeless (gmp->current->fname)) { emlwrite("Copy not allowed in restricted mode",NULL); break; } *************** *** 654,659 **** --- 654,664 ---- strcpy(tmp, child); /* add full path! */ sprintf(child, "%s%c%s", gmp->dname, C_FILESEP, tmp); + /*APG*/ if ((gmode&MDSCUR) && homeless (gmp->current->fname)) { + /*APG*/ emlwrite("Make Copy not allowed outside of home directory",NULL); + /*APG*/ break; + /*APG*/ } + /*APG*/ if((status = fexist(child, "w", (long *)NULL)) == FIOSUC){ sprintf(tmp,"File \"%.*s\" exists! OVERWRITE", NLINE - 20, child); *************** *** 726,732 **** break; } ! if(gmode&MDSCUR){ /* not allowed! */ emlwrite("Rename not allowed in restricted mode",NULL); break; } --- 731,737 ---- break; } ! /*APG*/ if ((gmode&MDSCUR) && homeless (gmp->current->fname)) { emlwrite("Rename not allowed in restricted mode",NULL); break; } *************** *** 758,763 **** --- 763,773 ---- strcpy(tmp, child); sprintf(child, "%s%c%s", gmp->dname, C_FILESEP, tmp); + /*APG*/ + /*APG*/ if ((gmode&MDSCUR) && homeless (gmp->current->fname)) { + /*APG*/ emlwrite("Rename not allowed outside of home directory",NULL); + /*APG*/ break; + /*APG*/ } status = fexist(child, "w", (long *)NULL); if(status == FIOSUC || status == FIOFNF){ diff -crw pine3.91/pico/file.c spine3.91/pico/file.c *** pine3.91/pico/file.c Tue Oct 11 18:47:07 1994 --- spine3.91/pico/file.c Wed Jun 7 14:48:02 1995 *************** *** 77,86 **** if ((s=mlreply("Read file: ", fname, NFILEN, QNORML, NULL)) != TRUE) return(s); ! if(gmode&MDSCUR){ ! emlwrite("File reading disabled in secure mode",NULL); ! return(0); ! } if (strlen(fname) == 0) { emlwrite("No file name entered",NULL); --- 77,88 ---- if ((s=mlreply("Read file: ", fname, NFILEN, QNORML, NULL)) != TRUE) return(s); ! /*APG ! APG if(gmode&MDSCUR){ ! APG emlwrite("File reading disabled in secure mode",NULL); ! APG return(0); ! APG } ! APG*/ if (strlen(fname) == 0) { emlwrite("No file name entered",NULL); *************** *** 163,178 **** fname[0] = '\0'; if((s = FileBrowse(dir, fname, NULL, FB_READ)) == 1){ ! if(gmode&MDSCUR){ ! emlwrite("Can't insert file in restricted mode", ! NULL); ! sleep(2); ! } ! else{ ! strcat(dir, S_FILESEP); strcat(dir, fname); retval = ifile(dir); ! } bye++; } else --- 165,183 ---- fname[0] = '\0'; if((s = FileBrowse(dir, fname, NULL, FB_READ)) == 1){ ! /*APG* ! *APG* if(gmode&MDSCUR){ ! *APG* emlwrite("Can't insert file in restricted mode", ! *APG* NULL); ! *APG* sleep(2); ! *APG* } ! *APG* else{ ! *APG*/ strcat(dir, S_FILESEP); strcat(dir, fname); retval = ifile(dir); ! /*APG* ! *APG* } ! *APG*/ bye++; } else *************** *** 202,208 **** } else{ bye++; ! if(gmode&MDSCUR){ emlwrite("Can't insert file in restricted mode",NULL); } else{ --- 207,214 ---- } else{ bye++; ! /*APG*/ compresspath (gethomedir(NULL), fname, NFILEN); ! /*APG*/ if((gmode&MDSCUR) && homeless (fname)){ emlwrite("Can't insert file in restricted mode",NULL); } else{ *************** *** 397,402 **** --- 408,418 ---- if(strcmp(fname, curbp->b_fname) == 0) break; + /*APG*/ + /*APG*/ if((gmode&MDSCUR) && homeless (fname)) { + /*APG*/ emlwrite("Can't write file outside home directory in secure mode",NULL); + /*APG*/ return(s); + /*APG*/ }; if((s=fexist(fname, "w", &l)) == FIOSUC){ /* exists. overwrite? */ diff -crw pine3.91/pico/os_unix.c spine3.91/pico/os_unix.c *** pine3.91/pico/os_unix.c Mon Oct 10 18:28:57 1994 --- spine3.91/pico/os_unix.c Tue Jun 13 12:17:44 1995 *************** *** 538,547 **** if(Pmaster == NULL) return(-1); ! if(gmode&MDSCUR){ ! emlwrite("Alternate editor not available in restricted mode", NULL); ! return(-1); ! } if(Pmaster->alt_ed == NULL){ if(!(gmode&MDADVN)){ --- 538,549 ---- if(Pmaster == NULL) return(-1); ! /*APG* ! *APG* if(gmode&MDSCUR){ ! *APG* emlwrite("Alternate editor not available in restricted mode", NULL); ! *APG* return(-1); ! *APG* } ! *APG*/ if(Pmaster->alt_ed == NULL){ if(!(gmode&MDADVN)){ ################################################################################ -- "That man has a rare gift for obfuscation." -- ST:DS9 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 13 18:49:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24341; Tue, 13 Jun 95 18:49:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28905; Tue, 13 Jun 95 18:44:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28899; Tue, 13 Jun 95 18:44:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLhSx-00038EC; Tue, 13 Jun 95 18:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynch.94@osu.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: Feature Request for Pine 3.92 Date: 13 Jun 1995 13:35:33 -0400 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I'd just like to make a feature request for the next version of pine. It would be nice if there could be an option when posting/replying to newsgroups to allow it to make the post e-mail style instead of NNTP style. For example, the way news reading is set up here, anyone from our domain can read news, however, only people from specific "secured" ip address can directly post. People not at these "secured" ip address can post by sending their post to: INSERT_NEWSGROUP_NAME@NEWSSERVER_ADDRESS (where they then do some verification a post the message). So if you're looking to add a convenient feature, allowing this method of newsgroup posting would be nice. (ie. when I type compose from within a newsgroup, it files in the "To:" line based on the above rule.) Jerry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 13 20:53:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26994; Tue, 13 Jun 95 20:53:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19761; Tue, 13 Jun 95 20:49:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19754; Tue, 13 Jun 95 20:49:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLjRp-00038CC; Tue, 13 Jun 95 20:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" Subject: Re: Reply-to (was how do I set?) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 22:14:10 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3rk0t5$o2e@abac.au.ac.th> <3rk8sf$grd@umbc7.umbc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 13 Jun 1995, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > The equals sign, if that is what you entered, could be bollixing things > up. Header field names commonly end with a colon. They MUST, or else it's just an invalid header line. Zoli fekete@bc.edu (note my old full address @bcuxs2 is retired) "For my assured failures and derelictions, I ask pardon beforehand of my betters and my equals in my calling." - Rudyard Kipling From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 13 21:22:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27659; Tue, 13 Jun 95 21:22:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01086; Tue, 13 Jun 95 21:14:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01080; Tue, 13 Jun 95 21:14:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLjnS-00038EC; Tue, 13 Jun 95 21:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nan Subject: Read news article question Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 21:09:57 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: How do you set up Pine so that once an article in a news folder is read, it doesn't show up with the N(new) flag the next time I open that folder in a new session? It would also be nice if the cursor jumped to the next unread message upon entering the folder. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 13 22:38:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29425; Tue, 13 Jun 95 22:38:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21026; Tue, 13 Jun 95 22:34:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21020; Tue, 13 Jun 95 22:34:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLl3C-00038CC; Tue, 13 Jun 95 22:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Reply-to (was how do I set?) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 20:41:15 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3rk0t5$o2e@abac.au.ac.th> <3rk8sf$grd@umbc7.umbc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3rk8sf$grd@umbc7.umbc.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 13 Jun 1995, Joan Korenman wrote: > I DID find an option for customized-hdrs in the .pinerc file, > toward the end, but I can't get it to work. I filled it it so that it > read as follows: customized-hdrs=Reply-to= > [...] Try Reply-To: in place of: Reply-to= The equals sign, if that is what you entered, could be bollixing things up. Header field names commonly end with a colon. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 00:00:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01736; Wed, 14 Jun 95 00:00:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03201; Tue, 13 Jun 95 23:44:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03195; Tue, 13 Jun 95 23:44:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLm9K-00038CC; Tue, 13 Jun 95 23:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: riptide@one.net (nobody) Subject: creating other INBOXes Date: 14 Jun 1995 02:14:52 GMT Message-Id: <3rlgms$nu@mail.one.net> Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to create several INBOX folders with PINE? I have mailing list of sorts that I'd like to get hooked up to again, but it usualy echoes 1 message to me every 30 seconds. You can imagine what my regular INBOX folder would look like when I check my mail in the morning. Basically I want to create a new folder, called INBOX2 for instance, that only takes in mail from one address, in this case the mailing list's address. Furthermore, I don't want the messages appearing in the other folders at all, just this new one. Is there away to do that with PINE? JR From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 01:33:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04555; Wed, 14 Jun 95 01:33:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23091; Wed, 14 Jun 95 01:24:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23085; Wed, 14 Jun 95 01:24:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLnhi-00038CC; Wed, 14 Jun 95 01:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch Control: cancel <173AC109B1S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> Subject: cmsg cancel <173AC109B1S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> Message-Id: <173B01459ES86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 21:09:43 GMT Status: O X-Status: message was canceled from NNR, FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 02:56:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06404; Wed, 14 Jun 95 02:56:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05756; Wed, 14 Jun 95 02:43:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05750; Wed, 14 Jun 95 02:43:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLorB-00038CC; Wed, 14 Jun 95 02:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vzvz@netcom.com (Philip Zeyliger) Subject: Re: creating other INBOXes Message-Id: References: <3rlgms$nu@mail.one.net> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 02:52:55 GMT Status: O X-Status: nobody (riptide@one.net) wrote: : Is it possible to create several INBOX folders with PINE? I have : mailing list of sorts that I'd like to get hooked up to again, but it : usualy echoes 1 message to me every 30 seconds. You can imagine what my : regular INBOX folder would look like when I check my mail in the morning. : Basically I want to create a new folder, called INBOX2 for instance, that : only takes in mail from one address, in this case the mailing list's : address. Furthermore, I don't want the messages appearing in the other : folders at all, just this new one. Is there away to do that with PINE? Yes, here's an example from my .pinerc (you can do this from the setup but it's a pain) incoming-folders="Word-Server" Mail/wordserver, "Ascii-Art" Mail/asciiart, "Figlet" Mail/figlet, "MS Word for PC" Mail/msword, "New-List List" Mail/newlist, "Wordly" Mail/wordly, "Procmail" Mail/procmaillist, "HTML-List" Mail/htmllist, "HTML Guild" Mail/htmlguild, "Chess" Mail/chess All my mail is sorted by procmail. I just use TAB to switch :-) -- ,'^\ _ _ _ _ _ ,-----------------------------. ; :.\ Philip Zeyliger | |/// \| U ||| |On all Internet Chess Servers| \ \ ~ vzvz@netcom.com | (( o ) ||o\ /) telnet ics.onenet.net 5000 | [___] |_|\\\_/|_n_||_/ '-----------------------------' From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 03:25:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07222; Wed, 14 Jun 95 03:25:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24306; Wed, 14 Jun 95 03:15:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24300; Wed, 14 Jun 95 03:15:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLpMQ-00038CC; Wed, 14 Jun 95 03:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" Subject: Re: specifying a directory to export to? Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 16:38:14 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3rkc5f$gs5@lynx.unm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3rkc5f$gs5@lynx.unm.edu> Status: O X-Status: You can export (or save) to any directory: just enter your filename complete with the path (relative if below $HOME, absolute otherwise)! Zoli fekete@bc.edu (note my old full address @bcuxs2 is retired) "For my assured failures and derelictions, I ask pardon beforehand of my betters and my equals in my calling." - Rudyard Kipling On 13 Jun 1995, Chris P. Sharp wrote: > I was wondering if there's a way to export a message to any directory > specified when in Pine. It seems to only export to the home directory. > Thanks for any info. > > Chris Sharp > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 03:27:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07333; Wed, 14 Jun 95 03:27:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24352; Wed, 14 Jun 95 03:20:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24346; Wed, 14 Jun 95 03:20:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLpW1-00038IC; Wed, 14 Jun 95 03:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lafranc@champlaincollege.qc.ca (Guillaume Lafrance) Subject: Return receipt Date: 13 Jun 1995 16:50:58 -0400 Message-Id: <5ea3vcD+Lh7A083yn@champlaincollege.qc.ca> Status: O X-Status: Is there a way I can ask for a return receipt when I send an email?? Thanks, Guillaume __ | | | Guillaume Lafrance aka Starkiller | --==#==-- lafranc@champlaincollege.qc.ca --==#==-- | http://samuel.champlaincollege.qc.ca/~lafranc/homep.html | | | -- | Guillaume Lafrance, aka Starkiller | | lafranc@champlaincollege.qc.ca | --==#==-- --==#==-- | http://samuel.champlaincollege.qc.ca/~lafranc/homep.html | | | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 03:30:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07465; Wed, 14 Jun 95 03:30:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06237; Wed, 14 Jun 95 03:20:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06231; Wed, 14 Jun 95 03:20:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLpVr-00038HC; Wed, 14 Jun 95 03:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mstevens@shrinkatron.utmb.edu (Mark A. Stevens MD) Subject: Re: autoreply with PINE (Systemn V) ??? Date: 13 Jun 1995 21:17:07 GMT Message-Id: <3rkv8j$12r@atlantis.utmb.edu> References: <3qqb00$8mt@marlin.ssnet.com> Status: O X-Status: 3D Printing! (3dprint@marlin.ssnet.com) wrote: : I also would like to know if I can selectively auto-reply based on the from : field? This shouldn't be very difficult at all to do with procmail. -- Mark A. Stevens, M.D. Assistant Professor of Psychiatry University of Texas Medical Branch | Director, Psychiatric Emergency Svc Galveston, TX 77555-0428 | Mail: mstevens@shrinkatron.utmb.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 04:51:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10403; Wed, 14 Jun 95 04:51:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07522; Wed, 14 Jun 95 04:39:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07516; Wed, 14 Jun 95 04:39:31 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id HAA25100; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 07:36:42 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id HAA28579; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 07:36:31 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA19356; Wed, 14 Jun 95 07:34:52 EDT Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 07:34:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Guillaume Lafrance Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Return receipt In-Reply-To: <5ea3vcD+Lh7A083yn@champlaincollege.qc.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 13 Jun 1995, Guillaume Lafrance wrote: > Is there a way I can ask for a return receipt when I send an email?? > I use the following, either at the beginning or end of the message: "Please let me know that you received this message." Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 05:42:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11833; Wed, 14 Jun 95 05:42:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08238; Wed, 14 Jun 95 05:31:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08232; Wed, 14 Jun 95 05:31:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLrVw-00038CC; Wed, 14 Jun 95 05:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: /tmp/pinercLLxxxxx Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 18:02:31 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I keep finding files named /tmp/pinercLLxxxx where LL is a pair of letters, and xxxxx is a process number or something. Anyone know what's up? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp1.1.4, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBL93SduBu0383Om6dAQH4wwQAwxLWn1YJRNcXBQHq2HPM5pYpH3fVOk7H AsyS+dce8pU6eV8Xa4kKF5uJxoHAF3f3xHIoFe+LLvbOX1aMgcjQQX/rwYlGLJBI +7Y8wjyXuXMJdzdLCHaAdaqhl4hxKo9hpAf/krQyWe9nzAebKxLcPJKoQ2e2rrqi eDuC83+klfk= =Npba -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka "The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 05:54:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12143; Wed, 14 Jun 95 05:54:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26040; Wed, 14 Jun 95 05:40:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26034; Wed, 14 Jun 95 05:40:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLrgI-00038CC; Wed, 14 Jun 95 05:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" Subject: Re: Post!? Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 07:25:50 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3rlpus$1a8m@ctsc.hkbc.hk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3rlpus$1a8m@ctsc.hkbc.hk> Status: O X-Status: If you're reading the group, Compose would be default generate a post; otherwise, choose Rich header which'll provide a "Newsgrps:" header field (a Pineized reading of 'Newsgroups:' ;-)). Zoli fekete@bc.edu (note my old full address @bcuxs2 is retired) "For my assured failures and derelictions, I ask pardon beforehand of my betters and my equals in my calling." - Rudyard Kipling From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 06:01:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12335; Wed, 14 Jun 95 06:01:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08512; Wed, 14 Jun 95 05:50:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08506; Wed, 14 Jun 95 05:50:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLrsQ-00038EC; Wed, 14 Jun 95 05:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" Subject: Re: Read news article question Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 07:34:13 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: According to the Pine help only the Deleted flag is kept between sessions (because of the way .newsrc stores info). Surprisingly, many of the groups I read actually show only the unread articles as New - but some, like c.m.p lose this information! Any explanation by the wizards? Zoli fekete@bc.edu (note my old full address @bcuxs2 is retired) "For my assured failures and derelictions, I ask pardon beforehand of my betters and my equals in my calling." - Rudyard Kipling On Tue, 13 Jun 1995, Nan wrote: > How do you set up Pine so that once an article in a news > folder is read, it doesn't show up with the N(new) flag > the next time I open that folder in a new session? It > would also be nice if the cursor jumped to the next unread > message upon entering the folder. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 06:18:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12925; Wed, 14 Jun 95 06:18:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26285; Wed, 14 Jun 95 06:05:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26279; Wed, 14 Jun 95 06:05:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLs6X-00038CC; Wed, 14 Jun 95 06:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harvey Loria Subject: Down Loading ? Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 06:21:31 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Would someone show mw how to down load using pine? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 06:36:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13428; Wed, 14 Jun 95 06:36:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09020; Wed, 14 Jun 95 06:26:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from reznor.larc.nasa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09014; Wed, 14 Jun 95 06:26:52 -0700 Received: by reznor.larc.nasa.gov (8.6.10/server2.4) id NAA19369; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 13:26:49 GMT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Path: usenet From: Karen McCarter Newsgroups: mail.pine-info Subject: Pine v3.91 and Character Sets Date: 14 Jun 1995 13:26:47 GMT Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA USA Lines: 17 Message-Id: <3rmo2n$iis@reznor.larc.nasa.gov> Nntp-Posting-Host: sprout.larc.nasa.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3_U1 sun4m) X-Url: news:mail.pine-info Status: O X-Status: Is there a known bug with character sets in Pine v3.91? When the character set is configured to be ISO-8859-1 in Pine v3.05, MIME attachments are easier to read. When this same setting is configured in Pine v3.91 nothing happens. Thanks ahead for anyone that has any information on this issue. -- __________________________________________________________________ Karen K. McCarter | Systems Analyst for I-NET, Inc. NASA Langley Research Center | E-Mail: k.k.mccarter@larc.nasa.gov Mail Stop 157B | Phone: (804) 864-8259 Hampton, Virginia 23681-0001 | Fax: (804) 864-7676 __________________________________________________________________ ******* Nobody ever had a rainbow without a little rain ******** __________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 07:15:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14732; Wed, 14 Jun 95 07:15:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09481; Wed, 14 Jun 95 06:53:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09465; Wed, 14 Jun 95 06:53:01 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 14 Jun 1995 14:47:15 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id OAA00126; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 14:50:11 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 14:50:09 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Read news article question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This is because you have a feature turned on (not on by default) called "news-approximates-new-status". What happens is this: It is quite true that only the "Deleted" status flag can be recorded by Pine between sessions. This gets stored in the normally formatted ".newsrc" file that is also used by other news reading programs. Other programs divide articles into only two classes: "Seen" and "Unseen". The list held in the .newsrc file lists the "seen" articles. These are not normally included in any list of articles you are shown. Pine attempts to adopt a strategy more akin to e-mail by dividing articles into three classes: deleted ("finished with"); seen and unseen ("new"). Pine's "deleted" is equivalent to a conventional news reader's "seen" in that these articles are not by default included in the list shown to you. Both "seen" and "unseen" articles *are* shown in the list to you. But how can Pine store the three classes using a storage (.newsrc file) mechanism that only permits two to be saved? The answer is by using a bit of intelligent guesswork. Firstly Pine excludes all the "deleted" articles from its list of all articles in a newsgroup. Without the "news-approximates-new-status" feature set all of these are displayed as "New". But *with* the "news-approximates-new-status" feature set Pine checks for the date and time of the most recent article that has been Deleted. It then *assumes* that you have read all articles up to that date and time (as you must have had them available to see the one you *did* delete) and further assumes that all subsequent articles have arrived since. The former are displayed as "read"; the latter as "new". This falls down a little if you have read some articles after the last one you deleted (perhaps you wanted to keep them visible for a bit longer), but is nevertheless a pretty good attempt at guessing. However... There is one slight "Gotcha" lurking still. Our news server used to be fed using a "normal" NNTP news sending process on our "upstream" site. This meant that articles arrived here in pretty much the same order as they had arrived at that site, and on the whole were in roughly chronological order. However our feed has now been switched off to some Hyper-Intelligent NNTP feeding software called, I believe, "NNTPlink". This works by attempting to send articles currently held in (our upstream feed computer's) memory to us in real time. If an article couldn't be sent it is written to a queue file, and real-time transmission attempt the next article. The articles held in the queue file is sent by more conventional means from time to time. In practice this makes for much more efficient news sending, cutting down dramatically on disk I/O requirements (or so I hear). However it does have the draw back that if our machine is heavily loaded (and hence slow) or down for a while then we are quite likely to receive articles without receiving the previous ones (which eventually appear later). This confuses Pine's guesswork a bit, as delayed articles may be presented as "seen" when in fact you haven't seen them! Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 14 Jun 1995, Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq wrote: > According to the Pine help only the Deleted flag is kept between > sessions (because of the way .newsrc stores info). Surprisingly, many of > the groups I read actually show only the unread articles as New - but > some, like c.m.p lose this information! Any explanation by the wizards? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 07:16:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14780; Wed, 14 Jun 95 07:16:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09688; Wed, 14 Jun 95 07:05:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09682; Wed, 14 Jun 95 07:05:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLt1H-00038CC; Wed, 14 Jun 95 07:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Karen McCarter Subject: Pine v3.91 and Character Sets Date: 14 Jun 1995 13:15:51 GMT Message-Id: <3rmne7$iis@reznor.larc.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Is there a known bug with character sets in Pine v3.91? When the character set is configured to be ISO-8859-1 in Pine v3.05, MIME attachments are easier to read. When this same setting is configured in Pine v3.91 nothing happens. Thanks ahead for anyone that has any information on this issue. -- __________________________________________________________________ Karen K. McCarter | Systems Analyst for I-NET, Inc. NASA Langley Research Center | E-Mail: k.k.mccarter@larc.nasa.gov Mail Stop 157B | Phone: (804) 864-8259 Hampton, Virginia 23681-0001 | Fax: (804) 864-7676 __________________________________________________________________ ******* Nobody ever had a rainbow without a little rain ******** __________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 07:33:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15216; Wed, 14 Jun 95 07:33:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27284; Wed, 14 Jun 95 07:16:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27278; Wed, 14 Jun 95 07:16:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLtAw-00038CC; Wed, 14 Jun 95 07:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: man-lap@hoffman.cc.sophia.ac.jp (Man Lap) Subject: uudecode problem with Pine mails Message-Id: <39223@hoffman.cc.sophia.ac.jp> Date: 14 Jun 95 08:02:38 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi, My friend zipped and uuencoded a binary file and sent to me by attach it to his mail. But, when I try to uudecode it,"no begin line" appeared. I found that there is really not begin line in the file. Why this happened? Can I decode the file in another way. FYI, my friend is using Pine and I am using mh. Thanks in advance. Lap From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 08:24:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17070; Wed, 14 Jun 95 08:24:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28075; Wed, 14 Jun 95 08:10:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28059; Wed, 14 Jun 95 08:09:47 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id LAA05237; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 11:09:38 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id LAA11170; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 11:09:33 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA27174; Wed, 14 Jun 95 11:07:11 EDT Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 11:07:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Man Lap Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: uudecode problem with Pine mails In-Reply-To: <39223@hoffman.cc.sophia.ac.jp> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 14 Jun 1995, Man Lap wrote: > Hi, > > My friend zipped and uuencoded a binary file and sent to me by attach it to > his mail. > > But, when I try to uudecode it,"no begin line" appeared. I found that > there is really not begin line in the file. Why this happened? I think it is because the 'begin 644 ' was MIMEd along with the rest of the file when he attached it. > Can I > decode the file in another way. > > FYI, my friend is using Pine and I am using mh. I assume mh doesn't use MIME, or you would have been able to save the MIMEd attachment and uudecoded that. Your friend MIMEd the uuencoded file by attaching it. He should have read the file into the message body (ctrl-R in Pine). You have two choices, 1) have him resend the uuencoded file (easy) or 2) get munpack try to unMIME the attachment then uudecode that file (hard). Good luck. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 08:40:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17802; Wed, 14 Jun 95 08:40:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11169; Wed, 14 Jun 95 08:25:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11160; Wed, 14 Jun 95 08:25:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLuIT-00038CC; Wed, 14 Jun 95 08:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: overlord@tao.kuai.se (Mattias Ahnberg) Subject: New version of Pine? Date: 14 Jun 1995 01:03:16 GMT Message-Id: <3rlcgk$gg8@bundy.mdk.se> Status: O X-Status: >From where can I download the most recent version of pine? -- [-AHNBERG-] Friendly Mailwriter From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 08:57:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18739; Wed, 14 Jun 95 08:57:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28913; Wed, 14 Jun 95 08:48:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28907; Wed, 14 Jun 95 08:48:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLubS-00038EC; Wed, 14 Jun 95 08:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gabrielle@norden1.com (Gabrielle) Subject: Followup-to:? Reply-to? Date: 5 Jun 1995 02:33:45 GMT Message-Id: <3qtqe9$6mv@news1.channel1.com> Status: O X-Status: I would appreciate some help! I will be crossposting a group proposal to several newsgroups, but I need all the traffic the posts generate to go to ONE newsgroup. How do I do this? I have read all the PINE manuals I can find, but I only saw reference to Reply-to: which doesn't seem appropriate. Is there a Followup-to: header command? Thanks in advance! Debbie \||/ gabrielle@norden1.com @@ "The Internet is For (\/) THE BIRDS!!!" ( ) \ / Visit Debbie, her Teddy Bears /||\ and her Parrots at her / "" \ HomePage! ~~~~~~ http://www.rhein.de/t-b/users/debbie.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 09:00:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19029; Wed, 14 Jun 95 09:00:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11719; Wed, 14 Jun 95 08:47:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11707; Wed, 14 Jun 95 08:46:44 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 14 Jun 1995 16:43:17 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id QAA11471; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 16:43:32 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 16:43:31 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Man Lap Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: uudecode problem with Pine mails In-Reply-To: <39223@hoffman.cc.sophia.ac.jp> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 14 Jun 1995, Man Lap wrote: > My friend zipped and uuencoded a binary file and sent to me by attach it to > his mail. ZIPping a file allows multiple files to be stoed as one, and compressed in the process. The result is usually known as an "archive" and is a binary file. Binary files don't travel the e-mail system well, so are first converted to text (increasing their size somewhat), which does travel well. UUENCODE is just of many ways of converting a binary file to text. When someone sends a file using the "Attachment" feature of Pine (or ECSmail, or...) the file is encoded using a system called "MIME" (actually "Base-64 encoding" is more accurate -- one part of the specification which makes up MIME). Base-64 encoding does a similar job as UUENCODE: it teks an input file (be it text or binary) and converts it to a (human unreadable) textual file ready for traversing the e-mail networks. Pine (and probably other mailers) *always* encode files sent as attachments. They *sometimes* encode the main message body if it has a very high proportion of binary data. > But, when I try to uudecode it,"no begin line" appeared. I found that > there is really not begin line in the file. Why this happened? Can I > decode the file in another way. What you have received is the MIME-encoded UUENCODE-d ZIP-ped file. If your mailer was "MIME aware" (can understand MIME-encoded attachments) the first step of "de-MIME-ing" it would be automatically done for you. If your mailer is not MIME-aware you need to get hold of a separate program to do it (like UUDECODE converts UUENCODED files back). Once you have unpacked your attachment from MIME format you'll then have the UUENCODED file, ready for feeding to your UUDECODE program. So you'll EITHER need to: * Get hold of a program to unpack MIME files to work on the attachment you have already been sent or, * Ask your colleague to send the UUENCODEd file to you by including it in the message body rather than as an attachment. (This is done in Pine by placing the cursor in the Message Text area and using the Ctrl/R (Read File) command to insert a file. Text files included in this way are not MIME-encoded.) As an aside it is usually to simply attach the binary document to your message rather than first UUENCODEing in -- MIME handles the binary to text conversion instead. This, of course, assumes that the recipient has a MIME-aware mailer or set of unpacking tools! Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 10:59:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24903; Wed, 14 Jun 95 10:59:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14808; Wed, 14 Jun 95 10:51:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14802; Wed, 14 Jun 95 10:51:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLwZ3-00038CC; Wed, 14 Jun 95 10:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eahallbe@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Ethan Hall-Beyer) Subject: Using PC-Pine of any flavour w/ OS/2 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 20:57:15 GMT Status: O X-Status: Just a quick question - Is it possible to use and version of PC-Pine, other than the Winsock ersion, through OS/2 3.0's IAK SLIP TCP/IP DOS driver (VDOSTCP.SYS)? Thanks! Regards Ethan Hall-Beyer From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 11:57:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28179; Wed, 14 Jun 95 11:57:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16264; Wed, 14 Jun 95 11:51:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16252; Wed, 14 Jun 95 11:51:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLxSB-00038HC; Wed, 14 Jun 95 11:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: robt@flowbee.interaccess.com (Robert Owen Thomas) Subject: Re: uudecode problem with Pine mails Date: 14 Jun 1995 13:45:56 GMT Message-Id: <3rmp6k$lrt@nntp.interaccess.com> References: <39223@hoffman.cc.sophia.ac.jp> Status: O X-Status: Man Lap (man-lap@hoffman.cc.sophia.ac.jp) wrote: : But, when I try to uudecode it,"no begin line" appeared. I found that : there is really not begin line in the file. Why this happened? Can I : decode the file in another way. this is simple to fix, fortunately. vi the file from your friend. add, as the TOP line: begin 644 myfile.gz then save the file. you will now be able to uudecode the file. the output will be named "myfile.gz", mode 644. hope this helps! regards, --robert -- o Robert Owen Thomas -- Cymru Consulting, Inc. o o Unix: Admin, Networking, Security, Internet, RDBMS, App Development o o e-mail: robt@cymru.com or info@cymru.com o o vox: 708.686.3600 fax: 708.686.3600 (it works, trust me) o o "When I die, I want to go sleeping like my grandfather... o o Not screaming like the passengers in his car!" o From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 12:57:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01050; Wed, 14 Jun 95 12:57:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04176; Wed, 14 Jun 95 12:51:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04170; Wed, 14 Jun 95 12:51:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLyPh-00038CC; Wed, 14 Jun 95 12:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hurtta@dionysos.fmi.fi (Kari E. Hurtta) Subject: Re: Mail port posting! Date: 14 Jun 1995 14:03:21 GMT Message-Id: <3rmq79$9q5@kronos.fmi.fi> References: <3reeje$f7b@abac.au.ac.th> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Article <3reeje$f7b@abac.au.ac.th> of Ye Tun Status: O X-Status: ye@maia.au.ac.th (Ye Tun) writes: »Does anyone know how to mail using mail port? i tried many times and it »doesn't work. If you have any hints, please mail me directly at »ye@maia.au.ac.th . Because my mail server is always 2 weeks behind Read STD 10 (RFC 821): 0821 S J. Postel, "Simple Mail Transfer Protocol", 08/01/1982. (Pages=58) (Format=.txt) (Obsoletes RFC0788) (STD 10) [ Comment cc'ed to questioner. ] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 12:59:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01222; Wed, 14 Jun 95 12:59:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17678; Wed, 14 Jun 95 12:56:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17672; Wed, 14 Jun 95 12:56:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLyVa-00038CC; Wed, 14 Jun 95 12:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: c3006586@ctsc.hkbc.hk (LAM SHING FAI) Subject: Post!? Date: 14 Jun 1995 12:52:44 +0800 Message-Id: <3rlpus$1a8m@ctsc.hkbc.hk> Status: O X-Status: Dear friends, How can I use PINE to post articel in newsgroup? -- Felix Lam. c3006586@ctsc.hkbc.hk -------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 14:10:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04950; Wed, 14 Jun 95 14:10:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19467; Wed, 14 Jun 95 14:06:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19461; Wed, 14 Jun 95 14:06:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLzbt-00038EC; Wed, 14 Jun 95 14:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: huette@mec.fh-muenchen.de (Jens Huettemann) Subject: Re: how to get rid of debug files? (tried pine -d0) Date: 14 Jun 1995 15:41:01 GMT Message-Id: <3rmvud$gv9@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <3rj70k$2s6@nic-nac.CSU.net> Status: O X-Status: Dennis Fox (dfox@geosun1.sjsu.edu) wrote: : Mike Newton (miken@iceonline.com) wrote: : : way), but if anyone's found a way around it, i'd like to know. it's kind : I haven't found a way to prevent the creation of them, but I put the line : rm ~/pine-debug* : in my .logout file. That seems to keep the little pests under control. : -- : *********************************************************************** : Dennis Fox -- Geology Department -- San Jose State University : dfox@geosun1.sjsu.edu http://geosun1.sjsu.edu/~dfox : PGP public key available via finger : Key fingerprint = 25 3B A7 C6 29 62 D6 5F E8 E1 6E E3 7D 9F D9 79 I would use rm ~/.pine-debug* ;-) ^ Bye -- Jens Huettemann E-Mail: huette@mec.fh-muenchen.de From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 14:11:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05005; Wed, 14 Jun 95 14:11:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05987; Wed, 14 Jun 95 14:06:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05981; Wed, 14 Jun 95 14:06:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sLzbP-00038CC; Wed, 14 Jun 95 14:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Down Loading ? Date: 14 Jun 1995 19:40:58 GMT Message-Id: <3rne0a$9d0@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Harvey Loria (hloria@freenet.calgary.ab.ca) wrote: : Would someone show mw how to down load using pine? Type E to (E)xport a mail message to a file on yer home directory. Pine doesn't use D to download, D=delete in pine. BYE m From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 14:56:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07749; Wed, 14 Jun 95 14:56:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07157; Wed, 14 Jun 95 14:51:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07151; Wed, 14 Jun 95 14:51:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sM0IF-00038CC; Wed, 14 Jun 95 14:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: 3dprint@marlin.ssnet.com (3D Printing!) Subject: Auto pipe Date: 6 Jun 1995 19:11:50 -0400 Message-Id: <3r2nbm$cgb@marlin.ssnet.com> Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to auto pipe ALL incoming messages to a specific script in Pine? If I try using the .forward file: \3dprint, "|/home/marlin/users/3dprint/bin/doug 3dprint" where 'doug' is the script file. I get 'service not available' message. If anyone has any idea how to solve this problem, please let me know. Thanks in advance. :) -- 3dprint@ssnet.com "Internet is as Internet does." http://ssnet.com/~3dprint -Gump Clan- |>. |\. <. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 15:03:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08129; Wed, 14 Jun 95 15:03:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20976; Wed, 14 Jun 95 14:57:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20968; Wed, 14 Jun 95 14:57:53 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06802; Wed, 14 Jun 95 14:57:44 -0700 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 14:57:36 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Brian P. Hampson" Cc: Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: 3.89 and news In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- News posting was introduced in Pine 3.90... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, Brian P. Hampson wrote: > > Pardon my forgetfullness, but is 3.89 supposed to be able to WRITE news, > as well as read it? I can't remember if it was introduced BEFORE or > AFTER 3.89 > > thanks, > > B. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | > |System Administrator, | > |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | > |Vancouver, BC | > |+604-253-4188 | > | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | > | | > ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/---------------------------- > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL99bVd/IU4uTDdHNAQEQjwH/YFpTCjWK4tD/uk+AOfRpRrYLDLiK9G8U iVI7Q7NGT2gYOefpLrtNSy3hZ/uCO3dNWEkIz6GJjvynrjNgbFwFGg== =gsLP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 15:05:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08361; Wed, 14 Jun 95 15:05:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07397; Wed, 14 Jun 95 15:01:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07391; Wed, 14 Jun 95 15:01:38 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06968; Wed, 14 Jun 95 15:01:31 -0700 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 15:01:18 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Ralf Wenzel Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HELP: Just two little questions . . . In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 6 Jun 1995, Ralf Wenzel wrote: > And the second question: If i join a newsgroup, all (!) messages are set > with 'NEW'-status. Now i can read messages, reply to some people. If i leave > and open another group and then open the first group again, all messages are > 'NEW' again. In addition to that other flags (e .g. (A) for Answered) are unset > when i leave and reopen the group. > Unfortunately there is no mechanism in common use for saving additional flags for news messages and we have not invented one for Pine yet... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL99cN9/IU4uTDdHNAQHI+gH/RLHr/afx/zvhSBM+p2gduzMs5hNtsvlc 6fZ/ZTJr10q/ddj5VdSYq8KREhjM4xm7kU81pUL+G8fkJnwExwGQVQ== =QUrb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 15:09:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08631; Wed, 14 Jun 95 15:09:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07479; Wed, 14 Jun 95 15:04:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07473; Wed, 14 Jun 95 15:04:57 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07193; Wed, 14 Jun 95 15:04:54 -0700 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 15:04:46 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Richard Luhman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: saving files to folders in mass In-Reply-To: <3r201a$ble@sol.ars-grin.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In the current Pine 3.91 release, you can use ";" and "a" (assuming enable-aggregate-cmd-set is selected in the Setup/Config screen). |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 6 Jun 1995, Richard Luhman wrote: > Is it possible to move all of the inbox files to a separate folder in > mass (Using Unix Pine). Currently, I am using the S command to save each > and every message. This is very tedious. > > -- > Rick Luhman > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL99dAt/IU4uTDdHNAQElnAIA15DdosuUYIILwWMUyVB45oVSRZK9/GCt M5UgWFtTDj4J0nRBy7EC4WZvk2Kn6CuoQhR4T+0yW8VL3aIKnTlUPw== =Mr63 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 16:15:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12150; Wed, 14 Jun 95 16:15:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22816; Wed, 14 Jun 95 16:08:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22810; Wed, 14 Jun 95 16:08:14 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11490; Wed, 14 Jun 95 16:08:07 -0700 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 16:07:52 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Cc: Pine List Subject: Re: Pine [bug] ; 3.91 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hmmm... We thought this bug was fixed, but it still seems to be there for some platforms, e.g. SunOS... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 7 Jun 1995, Christopher "AWOL" Curtis wrote: > We have users who, because they are evil little boys and girls and don't > delete their mail, have aliases sending their mail to their home directory > instead of the INBOX directory. As part of the script that does this, the > MAIL environment variable is set, but PINE ignores it. Most other mail > readers do not. > > Although this in itself is just an inconvenience, I modified > /usr/local/lib/pine.conf to set inbox-path to $MAIL. Works fine _if_ MAIL is > set, but dumps otherwise. Likewise, if MAIL is set but has no value, PINE > dumps. > > I don't know if this is a bug, but PINE should not simply ignore the MAIL > variable. What we've had to do is either take each user who obviously > doesn't know what they're doing by the hand to fix the problem, or set > incoming-folders to include the new default mail folder. > > This is a problem for people who don't have the special mail folder, and just > makes the whole thing complicated all over again. That's why we tried to get > people to use PINE in the first place, to avoid complication... > > T | Christopher Curtis | ... when you have eliminated the | O > E | Sun Lab System Administrator | impossible, whatever remains, | S > A | Florida Institute of Technology | however improbable, must be the | / > M | Melbourne, Florida | truth - Doyle | 2 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL99r1N/IU4uTDdHNAQHsQAH9E7MbTmF3VwImGf3/ilmpuDsTDcNNB9iz ips36P8agG6WyXr+uwel2yqmqzmjPtzrKblbfaDJ8nBwI6OR76EuZA== =60cW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 16:38:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13093; Wed, 14 Jun 95 16:38:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23408; Wed, 14 Jun 95 16:33:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23402; Wed, 14 Jun 95 16:33:56 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12103; Wed, 14 Jun 95 16:33:45 -0700 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 16:33:35 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Somkiat Kosolsombat - CC Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Global Addressbook In-Reply-To: <3r7fjn$h2s@mars.mahidol.ac.th> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- There is no global addressbook in Pine 3.89. In Pine 3.91 you can edit the /usr/local/lib/pine.conf file to specify the global-address-book... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 8 Jun 1995, Somkiat Kosolsombat - CC wrote: > > Dear all, > > How to set the global addressbook in version 3.89 and version 3.91. > > TIA, > kiat > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL99x1t/IU4uTDdHNAQEgNAH+Pc7vIm0uOOOKBVyFeMh5v70THdqKkws7 G3/Wfl9sSaC+DgFYYPqWyiuSFf0DlRTtii7igGKjtIrIu4ztzfzipw== =0ENq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 16:54:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13744; Wed, 14 Jun 95 16:54:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23828; Wed, 14 Jun 95 16:50:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23822; Wed, 14 Jun 95 16:50:16 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12568; Wed, 14 Jun 95 16:50:10 -0700 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 16:50:02 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Gerald L. Zimmerer" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Dot Forward and INBOX Problem. In-Reply-To: <3rdqg1$sse@hal-pc.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- You can set "inbox-path" in the Setup/Config screen (.pinerc file in ancient versions) to point to the new location... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 11 Jun 1995, Gerald L. Zimmerer wrote: > Re: dot forward and INBOX > > I want to receive my mail at two e-mail locations. One for day time and > one for evenings. I have been successful by using a simple .forward > command file in my user directory. > > Only problem is that I can not forward my mail directly to my INBOX. I > have to chose another file name for these messages. > > No big deal, but it would be nice if I could get my mail in the INBOX > location so that I do not have to change folders every time I open pine. > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > Gerald > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL991r9/IU4uTDdHNAQEb/AH/TE21t9aqwQgWJX4PHD6B9KebbAJvUm+8 5MEmM+MEJ0Pn4xqUhY9K1SRtzIWCRIyxtVXSMhXLKvnGpg1MjuT6fg== =JiIG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 17:11:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15159; Wed, 14 Jun 95 17:11:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10371; Wed, 14 Jun 95 17:07:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from h141-206-15-110.ATTGIS.COM by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10363; Wed, 14 Jun 95 17:07:37 -0700 Received: from hostsw7.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (hostsw7.ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.COM) by mailhost.ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AB24963; Wed, 14 Jun 95 17:06:43 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Jun 95 17:06:43 PDT From: Steven Feinholz Message-Id: <9506150006.AB24963@mailhost.ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.COM> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PICO Tab Stops Status: O X-Status: I know this is not PINE specific, but can anyone tell me if it is possible in PICO to establish different TAB stops? Many thanks. ________________________________________________________________________ ==== AT&T | Steven Feinholz | VOICEplus: 427-5945 =--=== Global | Client Software | Phone: (310) 524-5945 =--=== Information | 100 N. Sepulveda Blvd. | FAX: (310) 524-5515 ==== Solutions | El Segundo, Ca 90245 | sf3@ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 18:04:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16944; Wed, 14 Jun 95 18:04:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25481; Wed, 14 Jun 95 17:58:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [205.216.79.1] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25475; Wed, 14 Jun 95 17:58:44 -0700 Received: (from plardner@localhost) by rocoto.aug.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id UAA21612; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 20:58:48 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 20:58:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: My setup configuration Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Can someone please tell me how I have messed up my configuration file. The line for personal-name reads as follows: = From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 18:40:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17848; Wed, 14 Jun 95 18:40:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26077; Wed, 14 Jun 95 18:37:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26071; Wed, 14 Jun 95 18:37:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sM3rh-00038CC; Wed, 14 Jun 95 18:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Gogan Subject: IMSP status? Date: 14 Jun 1995 18:51:22 GMT Message-Id: <3rnb3a$j72@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Anybody know what the status of IMSP (Internet Message Support Protocol) is these days? When I went to retrieve a copy of the draft document on IMSP (ftp://ds.internic.net/internet-drafts/draft-myers-imap-imsp-01.txt), I was told that since it had been an Internet draft for more than 6 months and not turned into an RFC, it had been deleted. Does it exist somewhere else these days? What's the timetable for it becoming an RFC? Thanks. -- Jim Gogan (gogan@email.unc.edu) Univ. of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 19:06:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18415; Wed, 14 Jun 95 19:06:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12058; Wed, 14 Jun 95 19:02:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12052; Wed, 14 Jun 95 19:02:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sM4Fq-00038EC; Wed, 14 Jun 95 19:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: paul@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Craig Paul) Subject: Re: imap Windows client available? Message-Id: <1995Jun14.085339.95169@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> Date: 14 Jun 95 08:53:39 CDT References: <3rk7lg$ghf@post.tau.ac.il> Status: O X-Status: In article <3rk7lg$ghf@post.tau.ac.il>, fesh@ccsg.tau.ac.il (Shahar Frank) writes: > Jim Anderson (jander@panix.com) wrote: > : Is there a Pine for Windows yet? If not, are there any MS/Windows > : clients available? > > : Thanks. > : -- > : Jim Anderson > : Consultant-at-large > : jander@panix.com > > If anybody knows about a MS Windows IMAP client, please let me know too, Besides PINE for Windows there are various commercial products, one being Simeon 3.0.2, which used to be known as ECSmail. E-mail sales@esys.ca if you're interested. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 14 19:10:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18518; Wed, 14 Jun 95 19:10:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26516; Wed, 14 Jun 95 19:07:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26510; Wed, 14 Jun 95 19:07:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sM4GN-00038CC; Wed, 14 Jun 95 19:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: raya@onramp.net (Ray Atnip) Subject: Pine mysteriously quit working? Date: 14 Jun 1995 14:01:44 GMT Message-Id: <3rmq48$j8m@news.onramp.net> Status: O X-Status: I have been using Pine 3.89 for 6 months with Linux to read mail which is retreived from my internet provider via pop which puts the retrieved mail in /usr/spool/mail/ray. On June 1 when I went to read my mail pine asked if I want to save copies of my sent and readmsgs which I responded with a yes. After saving these files pine informed me that /usr/spool/mail/ray was not a valid mailbox folder. (I haven't changed anything it worked fine the day B4). I checked file permissions, etc and could find nothing wrong. I then got a copy of 3.91 and installed it. It doesn't tell me that /usr/spool/mail/ray is an invalid folder but always shows that I have 1 unread message which turns out to be ALL of my mail. i.e. If I have 10 unread messages they are all in this one message. When I read my mail with elm, it sees the ten messages. Anyone have any ideas what's happened to cause this anomoly? Thanks in advance... -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Ray Atnip | Got a Caribean soul I can barely control raya@onramp.net | and some Texas hidden here in my heart. | J. Buffett ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 15 01:15:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26395; Thu, 15 Jun 95 01:15:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16029; Thu, 15 Jun 95 01:10:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16023; Thu, 15 Jun 95 01:10:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sM9sN-0003CzC; Thu, 15 Jun 95 01:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: richard@chopin.udel.edu (Richard E. Gordon) Subject: Re: pine user guide Date: 14 Jun 1995 13:03:38 -0400 Message-Id: <3rn4pa$njv@chopin.udel.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: We also wrote one here.... e-mail nanis@strauss.udel.edu or point a web browser to http://www.udel.edu/eileen/subject/communication/pine/pine-index.html -- Richard Gordon richard@strauss.udel.edu User Services, Smith Hall acs02244@udelvm.bitnet University of Delaware (302) 831-1717 Newark, DE 19716 USA (302) 831-4205 (fax) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 15 01:24:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26545; Thu, 15 Jun 95 01:24:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01641; Thu, 15 Jun 95 01:17:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01635; Thu, 15 Jun 95 01:17:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sM9yJ-0003BVC; Thu, 15 Jun 95 01:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: richard@chopin.udel.edu (Richard E. Gordon) Subject: Re: Moderator needs help ... Date: 14 Jun 1995 13:07:33 -0400 Message-Id: <3rn50l$nvg@chopin.udel.edu> References: <3n5rh6$ic6@bigboote.WPI.EDU> Status: O X-Status: I'm also in Jeff's position.... and I am NOT the sysadmin so cannot make changes like that to the pine setup. I think I can live with bouncing mail to my "list"--for the moment--except that bouncing lists EVERYONE's ID! Any suggestions how to suppress the "Resent-To:" field whilst bouncing? Thanks in advance! Best, Richard -- Richard Gordon richard@strauss.udel.edu User Services, Smith Hall acs02244@udelvm.bitnet University of Delaware (302) 831-1717 Newark, DE 19716 USA (302) 831-4205 (fax) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 15 04:13:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01007; Thu, 15 Jun 95 04:13:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17823; Thu, 15 Jun 95 04:03:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17817; Thu, 15 Jun 95 04:03:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMCge-00038EC; Thu, 15 Jun 95 04:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J.E. Maxwell" Subject: Pine 3.91 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 13:31:49 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello Pine Users, How can I get a copy of the new Pine 3.91 program? !~~~~~~~~!~~~~~~~~!~~~~~~~~!~~~~~~~~!~~~~~~~~!~~~~~~~~!~~~~~~~~!~~~~~~! ! J.E. Maxwell | Tel. (916) 752-3164 ! ! Med. Biol. Chem. Dept. | (916) 427-9013 ! ! Univ. of California - Davis | FAX (916) 752-3516 ! ! Davis CA 95616 |e-mail maxwell@krebs.ucdavis.edu ! !========!========!========!========!========!========!========!======! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 15 07:32:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05190; Thu, 15 Jun 95 07:32:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06485; Thu, 15 Jun 95 07:24:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06479; Thu, 15 Jun 95 07:24:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMFnO-00038CC; Thu, 15 Jun 95 07:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hughesm@is2.nyu.edu (Michael P. Hughes) Subject: pc-pine with pop3? Date: 14 Jun 1995 21:03:05 GMT Message-Id: <3rniq9$5ar@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to use PC-PINE for Windows with POP3? That's the protocol my slip provider uses, and I can't open the remote inbox. I really loathe Eudora and prefer Pine, so I hope there's a way around this. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 15 08:09:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06248; Thu, 15 Jun 95 08:09:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20387; Thu, 15 Jun 95 07:59:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20381; Thu, 15 Jun 95 07:59:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMGL9-00038CC; Thu, 15 Jun 95 07:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul Ivanov Subject: Re: Content-Transfer-Encoding Date: 15 Jun 1995 12:54:45 GMT Message-Id: <3rpail$it1@ipsun.ras.ru> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Petter Blomberg Z/JV wrote: >Most of my friends use Mailtool and we have some strange characters here >in Sweden that doesn't look nice when inside mail posted with pine. > >I'd like the Content-Transfer-Encoding to be 8BIT instead of >QUOTED-PRINTABLE. Is it possible with pine? > We had the same problem with Russian (KOI8) characters, so i made a patch to send.c which forces Pine 3.91 to post letters with such characters (0xA0..0xFE) encoded as 8BIT instead of Q-P or BASE64. I can share it with anyone interested. Paul. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 15 08:27:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07285; Thu, 15 Jun 95 08:27:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07354; Thu, 15 Jun 95 08:09:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07348; Thu, 15 Jun 95 08:09:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMGWp-00038EC; Thu, 15 Jun 95 08:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" Subject: Re: deleting single lines ??? Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 09:35:33 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3rp871$3kk@fu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3rp871$3kk@fu-berlin.de> Status: O X-Status: Ctrl-K deletes the line your cursor is on, or you can mark a block by Ctrl-^ and then delete the whole thing; or if you want to get fancy :-), you can mark and delete, then quit, restart and paste in the previously cut block with Ctrl-U ! Zoli fekete@bc.edu (note my old full address @bcuxs2 is retired) "For my assured failures and derelictions, I ask pardon beforehand of my betters and my equals in my calling." - Rudyard Kipling On 15 Jun 1995, Andreas Hetey wrote: > sometimes i want to include the message on reply, but i need only a few lines > (e.g. forwarding a returned undeliverable message to a new adress without all > the error comments). how can i delete a line or programm a key to do this ? > thanks for any advise. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 15 11:18:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15115; Thu, 15 Jun 95 11:18:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24312; Thu, 15 Jun 95 11:11:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha.loyno.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24306; Thu, 15 Jun 95 11:11:39 -0700 Received: by alpha.loyno.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/22Jul94-0234PM) id AA06795; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 15:13:00 +0200 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 15:13:00 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mary Aplin To: pine Subject: Pine addressing problmes Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello PINEers -- Something very strange has occurred. One of my users, who has been using pine for a while now, suddenly has a problem in sending mail. He is trying to send mail to me (aplin@alpha.loyno.edu). When he types my nickname (aplin) in the to field, instead of becoming "aplin@alpha.loyno.edu" it becomes "aplin@loyno.edu". It's dropping the first part of the domain name. I've looked at his setup/config, and everything looks okay. He swears he did not change anything. Any ideas????? Thanks, Mary Aplin Loyola University, New Orleans From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 15 12:16:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17597; Thu, 15 Jun 95 12:16:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25682; Thu, 15 Jun 95 12:09:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25676; Thu, 15 Jun 95 12:09:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMKHc-00038CC; Thu, 15 Jun 95 12:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andreas Hetey Subject: deleting single lines ??? Date: 15 Jun 1995 12:14:25 GMT Message-Id: <3rp871$3kk@fu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: sometimes i want to include the message on reply, but i need only a few lines (e.g. forwarding a returned undeliverable message to a new adress without all the error comments). how can i delete a line or programm a key to do this ? thanks for any advise. -- Andreas Hetey ******************************* Mail : hetey@zedat.fu-berlin.de Tel : 9161916 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 15 13:02:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19195; Thu, 15 Jun 95 13:02:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14215; Thu, 15 Jun 95 12:57:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14209; Thu, 15 Jun 95 12:56:59 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id PAA12649 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 15:56:57 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA07988 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 15:56:56 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA16589; Thu, 15 Jun 95 15:55:33 EDT Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 15:55:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: MAC compression utility Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Can anyone out there tell me where I can find a DOS version of the MAC compression utility that produces and extracts files with the .hqx (or whatever) extension? (If you could e-mail me a copy, that would be even better. ) TIA, Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 15 13:49:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21773; Thu, 15 Jun 95 13:49:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27713; Thu, 15 Jun 95 13:47:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from red2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27707; Thu, 15 Jun 95 13:47:01 -0700 Received: by red2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20355; Thu, 15 Jun 95 13:47:00 -0700 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 13:46:59 -0700 (PDT) From: pinetape To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: UWTV Presents Easy Instruction In Using Electronic Mail Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: UWTV Presents Easy Instruction In Using Electronic Mail Imagine electronic communications as simple and as fast as fax, but with world-wide connections without long distance charges, time difference problems or busy signals. Imagine communications that are not paper-bound, but arrive as living documents that can be edited, sent to multiple addressees and readily incorporated into other documents. This has always been the promise of electronic mail (email); a promise unfulfilled because of the limited distribution of networks and the lack of easy-to-use, widely-available email software. With the coming of age of the Internet international communications network and the development of the Pine email software by the University of Washington, the average person can now enjoy the convenience, economy, productivity and speed that were once limited to the elite at large corporations and major universities. With the expansion of the Internet into smaller organizations and the rapid proliferation of private sector providers of individual accounts, ordinary people with a computer and a modem can readily avail themselves of this powerful and user-friendly technology. UWTV is promoting this revolution in communications by airing the series "Electronic Mail Using Pine" every Thursday night at 9:00 PM on cable channel 27. The series assumes no technological background on the part of the viewer. Given access to the Pine software via any of the widely available Internet service providers, any viewer can quickly and easily become a full-fledged citizen of the Internet and take advantage of the opportunities there. The first and pilot program of the series is now airing. Viewers are guided through the Pine software by the personable team of Paul Reed Smith and Susan Lawrence. Smith, as an Internet computing expert, provides all the technical underpinnings necessary to rapidly master the technology, and Lawrence represents the average user by leading the dialogue to the practical applications of the technology. Her savvy understanding of Pine is complimented by interviews with real people who clearly explain how access to email with Pine has has contributed to and improved their communications and professional lives. The first program provides A description of the Internet An explanation of email and its applications Instruction in using email addresses The basics of using the Pine email software Electronic Mail using Pine is a series whose time has come. You won't want to miss the pilot program and will enjoy and profit from the continuation of the series that is currently under development. For more information about the Pine video call (206) 543-3800 or send email to pinetape@u.washington.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 15 16:29:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03541; Thu, 15 Jun 95 16:29:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21352; Thu, 15 Jun 95 16:25:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21345; Thu, 15 Jun 95 16:25:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMOGU-00038EC; Thu, 15 Jun 95 16:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: deleting single lines ??? Date: 15 Jun 1995 18:30:10 GMT Message-Id: <3rpu7i$bg4@grape.epix.net> References: <3rp871$3kk@fu-berlin.de> Status: O X-Status: Andreas Hetey (hetey@sirius.physik.fu-berlin.de) wrote: : sometimes i want to include the message on reply, but i need only a few lines : (e.g. forwarding a returned undeliverable message to a new adress without all : the error comments). how can i delete a line or programm a key to do this ? : thanks for any advise. Put the cursor on the line you want to delete, and press ^K (control+k). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 15 17:24:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07970; Thu, 15 Jun 95 17:24:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02479; Thu, 15 Jun 95 17:20:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02473; Thu, 15 Jun 95 17:20:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMP6u-00038EC; Thu, 15 Jun 95 17:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gaba@hpp.stanford.edu (David M. Gaba) Subject: Help on exiting Pine leaving mailbox untouched Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 11:46:34 -0800 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Hi: I usually read my email using Eudora on a Macintosh. However, when I'm on the road I log in via a simple terminal emulator and have been using ELM to read my mail. ELM is OK except for having to use the vi or emacs editor which is pretty bad. I have tried using PINE which seems a lot better, HOWEVER, I have this problem: When I used to use ELM I was able to leave my ,messages untouched even though I had read some of the messages, by exiting via "X" rather than via "Q". This then allowed me to read ALL of the messages (both the unread and the previously read ones) with Eudora when I got back to the office. I haven't been able to do this using PINE. Any message that was "previously read" is ignored by Eudora. I can't find anything on the WWW site FAQ about this. I'm sure it's a simple matter, but being too simple, I haven't figured it out yet. Any help will be appreciated. Please email me (gaba@hpp.stanford.edu) rather than posting, although I will check this group for a while. Thanks, David Gaba Stanford University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 15 17:35:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08694; Thu, 15 Jun 95 17:35:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23726; Thu, 15 Jun 95 17:30:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23720; Thu, 15 Jun 95 17:30:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMPEo-00038EC; Thu, 15 Jun 95 17:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu (Jim LeBay) Subject: Re: IBM or listserv to UNIX conversion? Date: 15 Jun 1995 22:50:40 GMT Message-Id: <3rqdg0$o4c@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: Randy Jay Yarger (randy@hs1.hst.msu.edu) wrote: > I'm looking for something that will convert Listserv mail logs and other > IBMish mail files to standard Unix mail that can be read in as a folder > in Pine. Does such a beast exist? We have a CMS exec program named BOOK2UNI, which converts CMS notebooks to the standard UNIX mailbox format. I will send you instructions on how to access/use it. ------ Jim LeBay (517) 353-1800 x143 353-5364 (FAX) Computing Information Center lebay@msu.edu Michigan State University lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu (NeXTmail) ---------- Love at first sight is one of the greatest labor-saving devices the world has ever seen. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 15 19:17:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16025; Thu, 15 Jun 95 19:17:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04064; Thu, 15 Jun 95 19:15:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04058; Thu, 15 Jun 95 19:15:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMQt8-00038HC; Thu, 15 Jun 95 19:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: a2246341@athena.rrz.uni-koeln.de (Alina Bartsch) Subject: Restricted Pico ? Date: 5 Jun 1995 12:15:10 GMT Message-Id: <3qusge$5hk@news.rrz.uni-koeln.de> Status: O X-Status: I will use the eitor pico in a application. I will that the user cannot change the filename (is an parameter) an not use the file browser. Could I define this in the environment or as parameters? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 15 20:15:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19694; Thu, 15 Jun 95 20:15:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29100; Thu, 15 Jun 95 20:10:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29094; Thu, 15 Jun 95 20:10:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMRjR-00038EC; Thu, 15 Jun 95 20:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sifu@hendrix.ecl.wustl.edu (Ben Regen) Subject: Re: pine not sending out mail Date: 15 Jun 1995 10:20:08 -0500 Message-Id: <3rpj38$2sf@hendrix.ecl.wustl.edu> References: <3rk6of$eqv@genesis.member.com> Status: O X-Status: In article <3rk6of$eqv@genesis.member.com>, Gregg Brekke wrote: > >Make sure you are setting the "smtp-server=" variable to the fqdn of your >mail server/forwarder in the .pinerc file. > >I am running Solaris 2.4 and UnixWare, both of these systems can't send >mail from Pine without this variable set. There is probably a better way >to fix this through a code patch, but this seems to solve the problem. > >Later, >Gregg > I am also running Solaris 2.4, but if pine is run on a machine that is also the smtp-server and "smtp-server=" is set to this local machine, NO mail will be sent. A message is returned saying-- [Error connecting to mail server: ] If the "smtp-server=" is changed to any other smpt server it works just fine. Any ideas as to what might cause this? Thanks in advance, Ben Regen sifu@ecl.wustl.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 15 20:29:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20504; Thu, 15 Jun 95 20:29:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04895; Thu, 15 Jun 95 20:25:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04889; Thu, 15 Jun 95 20:25:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMRzj-00038EC; Thu, 15 Jun 95 20:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Two Questions Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 21:14:06 -0400 Message-Id: References: <1995Jun15.185128.12998@sjfc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1995Jun15.185128.12998@sjfc.edu> Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 15 Jun 1995, Coenraad Bakker wrote: > [...] We are substituting an Esc-Esc sequence > for the Control key (for example, Esc-Esc-x for Control-x). This works > most of the time except in certain instances when the terminal mode is not > VT-100 (see question 2). Does anyone know of another way around this > control sequence problem? > [...] If some of your users are using PCs in terminal emulation mode, I presume they are using some sort of telecommunications software on the PCs. Some packages (I know ProComm Plus v2, for a fact) allow keyboard remapping to a greater or lesser extent. Check the documentation. You may be able to map your way around the problem, so that your users do not have to use the cumbersome double-Esc business to send out a specific code (^X or whatever). Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 15 21:06:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23482; Thu, 15 Jun 95 21:06:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00831; Thu, 15 Jun 95 21:00:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00825; Thu, 15 Jun 95 21:00:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMSX4-00038EC; Thu, 15 Jun 95 20:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mrobinsn@accthp1.wharton.upenn.edu (Mike Robinson) Subject: need help w/MIME problem Date: 15 Jun 1995 13:18:44 GMT Message-Id: <3rpbvk$ji9@netnews.upenn.edu> Status: O X-Status: I have a slight problem with messages coming from a particular version of Microsoft Mail. Whenever a group of Microsoft Mail users here at Wharton send a message, it appears as an attachment to me (and Pegasus Mail users, etc). Apparently it has to do with the "name=xxxxx" tag at the tail end of the Content/Type line. Is there a way to tell Pine to ignore Content/Type text/plain as a MIME attachment? As I understand it, although this "name=xxxx" attachment is annoying, under the MIME RFC, it is legal. Microsoft Mail attaches the subject line to the content/type line. For example, a message with the subject "test" under Pine becomes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" and under Microsoft Mail becomes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; name="test" I can recompile Pine to ignore this if it is possible. Thanks! -- +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ Mike Robinson : The Wharton School : 3620 Locust Walk Suite 2400 : mrobinsn@wharton.upenn.edu Philadelphia, PA 19104 : V://215.898.2761 F://215.573.2054 : - Write Me! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 15 21:39:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27790; Thu, 15 Jun 95 21:39:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05786; Thu, 15 Jun 95 21:36:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05780; Thu, 15 Jun 95 21:35:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMT6Z-00038EC; Thu, 15 Jun 95 21:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bm608@torfree.net (Walter Yen) Subject: Are Pine and Pico free? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 00:00:06 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi all: One simple question for you: Do the licensing agreement for Pine and Pico stated that they are freeware? Please email me. Thanks. Walter -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | STANDARD DISCLAIMER: | | My comments and my opinions are my own, and they are not my employer's. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 15 23:01:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01339; Thu, 15 Jun 95 23:01:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05044; Thu, 15 Jun 95 22:56:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05038; Thu, 15 Jun 95 22:56:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMUNW-00038IC; Thu, 15 Jun 95 22:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Reading un-MIME-ed mail In-Reply-To: Jeffrey Goldberg's message of Thu, 8 Jun 1995 11: 57:58 +0100 Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 15:33:00 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article Jeffrey Goldberg writes: How do I deal with MIME messages that have been forwarded to me by mailers (or people) who don't/can't deal with MIME? Here is a local addition to our munpack(1) man page describing what works here. NOTES If a MIME message is forwarded using a non-MIME compliant mailer, its MIME encoding will not be recognized. To fix this, save the message as a file and edit the file. Look for the first Content-Type: mail header, and copy that header into the first "paragraph" of mail headers, somewhere after its first line. (Then use munpack.) Hope this helps, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 15 23:19:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01819; Thu, 15 Jun 95 23:19:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06890; Thu, 15 Jun 95 23:16:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06884; Thu, 15 Jun 95 23:16:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMUcd-00038EC; Thu, 15 Jun 95 23:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pjh@mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg) Subject: Re: Why is my name in quotes? Message-Id: Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 20:44:36 GMT References: <3prgrt$8i5@sundog.tiac.net> Status: O X-Status: Larry Brinton (brinton@saclant.nato.int) wrote: : Because you have a special character in your name... the period after the : H. Remove the dot and the quotes go away. What would happen if he had Peter H\. Lemieux??? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 16 00:48:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03717; Fri, 16 Jun 95 00:48:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06491; Fri, 16 Jun 95 00:38:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kioi.cc.sophia.ac.jp by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06485; Fri, 16 Jun 95 00:38:13 -0700 Received: from hoffman.cc.sophia.ac.jp (hoffman.cc.sophia.ac.jp [133.12.30.2]) by kioi.cc.sophia.ac.jp (8.6.4+2.2W/3.1W) with SMTP id QAA10577; Fri, 16 Jun 1995 16:41:12 +0900 Received: from localhost by hoffman.cc.sophia.ac.jp (5.61/6.4J.6) id AA25656; Fri, 16 Jun 95 15:13:16 +0900 Message-Id: <9506160613.AA25656@hoffman.cc.sophia.ac.jp> To: Don Sugarman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: uudecode problem with Pine mails In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 14 Jun 1995 11:07:10 -0400." Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 15:13:11 +0900 From: Lap Man Status: O X-Status: Hi, Thank you very much for your information. Lap 16/6/95 >> My friend zipped and uuencoded a binary file and sent to me by attach it to >> his mail. > >ZIPping a file allows multiple files to be stoed as one, and compressed >in the process. The result is usually known as an "archive" and is a >binary file. > >Binary files don't travel the e-mail system well, so are first converted >to text (increasing their size somewhat), which does travel well. > >UUENCODE is just of many ways of converting a binary file to text. > >When someone sends a file using the "Attachment" feature of Pine (or >ECSmail, or...) the file is encoded using a system called "MIME" >(actually "Base-64 encoding" is more accurate -- one part of the >specification which makes up MIME). > >Base-64 encoding does a similar job as UUENCODE: it teks an input file >(be it text or binary) and converts it to a (human unreadable) textual >file ready for traversing the e-mail networks. > >Pine (and probably other mailers) *always* encode files sent as >attachments. They *sometimes* encode the main message body if it has a >very high proportion of binary data. > >> But, when I try to uudecode it,"no begin line" appeared. I found that >> there is really not begin line in the file. Why this happened? Can I >> decode the file in another way. > >What you have received is the MIME-encoded UUENCODE-d ZIP-ped file. > >If your mailer was "MIME aware" (can understand MIME-encoded attachments) >the first step of "de-MIME-ing" it would be automatically done for you. >If your mailer is not MIME-aware you need to get hold of a separate >program to do it (like UUDECODE converts UUENCODED files back). > >Once you have unpacked your attachment from MIME format you'll then have >the UUENCODED file, ready for feeding to your UUDECODE program. > >So you'll EITHER need to: > >* Get hold of a program to unpack MIME files to work on the attachment > you have already been sent > >or, > >* Ask your colleague to send the UUENCODEd file to you by including it > in the message body rather than as an attachment. (This is done in > Pine by placing the cursor in the Message Text area and using the > Ctrl/R (Read File) command to insert a file. Text files included in > this way are not MIME-encoded.) > >As an aside it is usually to simply attach the binary document to your >message rather than first UUENCODEing in -- MIME handles the binary to >text conversion instead. This, of course, assumes that the recipient has >a MIME-aware mailer or set of unpacking tools! > >Mike Brudenell >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK >Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 16 01:45:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05339; Fri, 16 Jun 95 01:45:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07388; Fri, 16 Jun 95 01:36:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07382; Fri, 16 Jun 95 01:36:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMWoT-00038EC; Fri, 16 Jun 95 01:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zinc@zifi.genetics.utah.edu (zinc) Subject: changing frequency pine checks /var/spool/mail/~username for new mail Date: 16 Jun 1995 03:29:49 GMT Message-Id: <3rqtrd$637@news.cc.utah.edu> Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- howdy, i'd like to be able to have pine check for new mail more frequently than whatever the default is. i have poured through the man pages and the .pinerc file and seen no hints about this. i have also built pine several times and don't remember this ever being an option. if anyone has a spare clue, send it my way.. - -pjf fuck exon and feinstein with a nice rolled up version of their anti-first amendment bill. - -- patrick finerty = zinc@zifi.genetics.utah.edu = pfinerty@nyx.cs.du.edu U of Utah biochem grad student in the Bass lab - zinc fingers + dsRNA! ** FINGER ME for my pgp public key ** CRYPTO FOR THE MASSES! zifi is a 486 DX4-100 running LINUX 1.2.9, send me all of your RAM now! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBL+D7fk3Qo/lG0AH5AQE8yAP5ATedDOPJnjqLZuVL73sdCc/AesPmjkz2 Zzsph8nD2P0TrPeSIRfew4N01v+Rf9+UOe7mbEz1Py0TAefjijApuJyBj8dieJ0t KKUO6tyJ2+PJgOs8S7U1EeLxNEG2J2D+hP+xMLEj7ykakcLrxy6a1Ga9kuWeGeCG 95LAaGuBifE= =zNV2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 16 02:17:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06000; Fri, 16 Jun 95 02:17:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07831; Fri, 16 Jun 95 02:09:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07825; Fri, 16 Jun 95 02:09:19 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 16 Jun 1995 10:05:39 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id KAA05728; Fri, 16 Jun 1995 10:10:25 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 10:10:25 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: zinc Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: changing frequency pine checks /var/spool/mail/~username for new mail In-Reply-To: <3rqtrd$637@news.cc.utah.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: It's #define'd as a constant in one of the include files in the pine/osdep directory. Look in the os-XXX.h for your platform for a constant called "NEW_MAIL_TIME". Set it accordingly and recompile. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 16 Jun 1995, zinc wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > howdy, > > i'd like to be able to have pine check for new mail more frequently > than whatever the default is. i have poured through the man pages and > the .pinerc file and seen no hints about this. i have also built pine > several times and don't remember this ever being an option. if anyone > has a spare clue, send it my way.. > > - -pjf > > fuck exon and feinstein with a nice rolled up version of their > anti-first amendment bill. > - -- > patrick finerty = zinc@zifi.genetics.utah.edu = pfinerty@nyx.cs.du.edu > U of Utah biochem grad student in the Bass lab - zinc fingers + dsRNA! > ** FINGER ME for my pgp public key ** CRYPTO FOR THE MASSES! > zifi is a 486 DX4-100 running LINUX 1.2.9, send me all of your RAM now! > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.2 > > iQCVAwUBL+D7fk3Qo/lG0AH5AQE8yAP5ATedDOPJnjqLZuVL73sdCc/AesPmjkz2 > Zzsph8nD2P0TrPeSIRfew4N01v+Rf9+UOe7mbEz1Py0TAefjijApuJyBj8dieJ0t > KKUO6tyJ2+PJgOs8S7U1EeLxNEG2J2D+hP+xMLEj7ykakcLrxy6a1Ga9kuWeGeCG > 95LAaGuBifE= > =zNV2 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 16 06:01:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11561; Fri, 16 Jun 95 06:01:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11172; Fri, 16 Jun 95 05:37:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11166; Fri, 16 Jun 95 05:37:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMabQ-00038MC; Fri, 16 Jun 95 05:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Petter Blomberg Subject: Multiple Incoming Message Folders Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 14:25:44 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I use procmail to sort my incoming mail into different folders. However Pine doesn't recognize new mail unless it's delivered to "INBOX". Is there a way to fix this? /Petter Blomberg, qrablog@lmera.ericsson.se From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 16 07:24:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13631; Fri, 16 Jun 95 07:24:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12207; Fri, 16 Jun 95 07:15:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha.loyno.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12195; Fri, 16 Jun 95 07:15:34 -0700 Received: by alpha.loyno.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/22Jul94-0234PM) id AA07695; Fri, 16 Jun 1995 11:16:56 +0200 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 11:16:56 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mary Aplin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine dropping part of address when using nicknames Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Yesterday afternoon I posted a question as to why pine was dropping part of the address in a nickname. Example: aplin@alpha.loyno.edu was being changed to aplin@loyno.edu when my user (just one) used my nickname from the system address book. I'm not sure why it happened, but I deleted the .pinerc file in the user account and gave him a new one. It seems to be working fine now. If anyone has any ideas WHY this happened, I would like to know... Mary Aplin Loyola University, New Orleans From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 16 07:34:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13858; Fri, 16 Jun 95 07:34:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12023; Fri, 16 Jun 95 07:22:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12017; Fri, 16 Jun 95 07:22:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMcDu-00038EC; Fri, 16 Jun 95 07:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Moises N. Morales" Subject: Confirmation reading! Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 23:56:46 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi everybody! Does anybody know if it is posible to set up PINE to get a "Confirmation Reading" and/or a "Confirmation Delivery" when I send an e-mail? (as in Pegasus Mail). Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Moises Nefi Morales morales@cs.byu.edu 1337 Maple Lane - Provo, Utah 84604 (801) 375-4220 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 16 07:45:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14159; Fri, 16 Jun 95 07:45:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12483; Fri, 16 Jun 95 07:37:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12477; Fri, 16 Jun 95 07:37:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMcSP-00038EC; Fri, 16 Jun 95 07:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sami Tikka Subject: Pine (or Pico) in Windows version keyboard bug Date: 16 Jun 1995 07:28:23 GMT Message-Id: <3rrbqn$n1q@pepper.research.nokia.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: In the Pine Windows version when I compose a message, Pine (or perhaps this is Pico now) _sometimes_ displays scandinavian letters incorrectly. I don't yet know if they are really sent OK and only displayed wrong. When I press the key labeled a with two dots above (I believe it is called adiaeresis) it is displayed as the greek letter "sigma". O with two dots above (odiaeresis) is displayed as "division sign", a dash with a dot above and under. So far I haven't used Windows-Pine very much and I haven't run into this trouble very often, I just thought to report it. Has anyone else been plagued by this probelem? Sami From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 16 07:46:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14196; Fri, 16 Jun 95 07:46:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12180; Fri, 16 Jun 95 07:32:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jumbo.ntplx.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12174; Fri, 16 Jun 95 07:32:13 -0700 Received: from quoin1.UUCP by ntplx.net (4.1/NETPLEX-1.3) id AA06287; Fri, 16 Jun 95 10:31:54 EDT Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 09:11:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: zinc Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: changing frequency pine checks /var/spool/mail/~username for new mail In-Reply-To: <3rqtrd$637@news.cc.utah.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > i'd like to be able to have pine check for new mail more frequently > than whatever the default is. i have poured through the man pages and > the .pinerc file and seen no hints about this. i have also built pine > several times and don't remember this ever being an option. if anyone There is a macro defined in one of the source files (can't remember which now) that sets the time interval between new mail checks. You can also use ^N when your in the INBOX index to force a mail check. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jean Pierre LeJacq Quoin, Inc Suite 200 North local voice: +1.203.295.0874 124 Mount Auburn Street voice: +1.617.576.5885 Cambridge, MA 02138-5700 fax: +1.617.576.5876 U.S.A. internet: jplejacq@quoininc.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 16 07:58:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14457; Fri, 16 Jun 95 07:58:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12409; Fri, 16 Jun 95 07:47:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12403; Fri, 16 Jun 95 07:47:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMcbT-00038CC; Fri, 16 Jun 95 07:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: csb@sjfc.edu (Coenraad Bakker) Subject: Two Questions Message-Id: <1995Jun15.185128.12998@sjfc.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 18:51:28 GMT Status: O X-Status: Question 1: Many of our users access our Pine mail server with terminals or PCs in terminal emulation. Their connection is routed through DEC terminal servers. These terminal servers reserve certain control sequences for their own use so if Pine uses those, they have no effect. In particular, Control-x to send does not work. We are substituting an Esc-Esc sequence for the Control key (for example, Esc-Esc-x for Control-x). This works most of the time except in certain instances when the terminal mode is not VT-100 (see question 2). Does anyone know of another way around this control sequence problem? Question 2: Is it possible to set it up in such a way that Pine operates satisfactorily in a terminal mode of VT-300 or VT-400? Coenraad Bakker -- Coenraad Bakker Director Academic Computing Services St. John Fisher College 3690 East Avenue From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 16 08:23:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15468; Fri, 16 Jun 95 08:23:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13034; Fri, 16 Jun 95 08:11:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13016; Fri, 16 Jun 95 08:10:21 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA25873; Fri, 16 Jun 95 17:07:32 +0200 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 17:07:31 +0200 (METDST) From: "Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?=)" To: "David M. Gaba" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help on exiting Pine leaving mailbox untouched In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Acknowledge-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 27 May 1995, David M. Gaba wrote: > When I used to use ELM I was able to leave my ,messages untouched even > though I had read some of the messages, by exiting via "X" rather than vi= a > "Q". This then allowed me to read ALL of the messages (both the unread > and the previously read ones) with Eudora when I got back to the office. Try run pine in read-only mode (I think pine -r, but I am not sure) or use a flag command and set the flag New for appropriate messages (for many of them this job is easier selecting them and aplying flag command on them).= =20 Hope this helps =20 V. S. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz Europe Home page: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-en.html Z=E1kladn=ED str=E1nka: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-cz.html Zakladni stranka: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-ce.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 16 08:25:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15561; Fri, 16 Jun 95 08:25:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12705; Fri, 16 Jun 95 07:52:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12699; Fri, 16 Jun 95 07:52:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMcgS-00038CC; Fri, 16 Jun 95 07:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Klaus Nuehlen Subject: Re: Content-Transfer-Encoding Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 09:02:54 +0200 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 12 Jun 1995, Petter Blomberg Z/JV wrote: > Most of my friends use Mailtool and we have some strange characters here > in Sweden that doesn't look nice when inside mail posted with pine. > > I'd like the Content-Transfer-Encoding to be 8BIT instead of > QUOTED-PRINTABLE. Is it possible with pine? I saved an earlier message relating to that problem and did the patches. They work very well and I hope you will enjoy too. *** Begin *** >From myhsu@db.csie.ncu.edu.twWed Jun 14 08:53:28 1995 Date: 21 Apr 1995 18:33:19 GMT From: Ming-Yen Hsu Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Subject: Re: Quoted Printable problems Enric Navarro Sanchis (navarro@vents.uji.es) wrote: : I do not have seen any compile option or parameter in the : configuration option .pinerc that talks about QP. : The question is: : when I send text with 8bit characters (ISO-xxxx) pine always : send the message with Quoted-Printable indeed of 8-bit. : Please, some help. : Thanks in advance. Apply following patch then enable the 8bit option in Config menu (enable-send-only-8bit, enable-8bit-in subject). It seems pine 3.92 will add 8bit esmtp as a optional feature. diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile ./imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile *** ../pine3.91.orig/imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile Tue Oct 11 07:13:22 1994 --- ./imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile Mon Mar 20 03:06:17 1995 *************** *** 193,199 **** sun: # SUN-OS $(MAKE) mtest OS=$@ EXTRADRIVERS="$(EXTRADRIVERS)" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto \ ! CFLAGS="-g -Dconst= $(EXTRACFLAGS)" \ LDFLAGS="-ldl" sv2: # SVR2 --- 193,199 ---- sun: # SUN-OS $(MAKE) mtest OS=$@ EXTRADRIVERS="$(EXTRADRIVERS)" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto \ ! CFLAGS="-O2 -Dconst= $(EXTRACFLAGS)" \ LDFLAGS="-ldl" sv2: # SVR2 diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/imap/ANSI/imapd/Makefile ./imap/ANSI/imapd/Makefile *** ../pine3.91.orig/imap/ANSI/imapd/Makefile Tue Oct 12 13:29:19 1993 --- ./imap/ANSI/imapd/Makefile Mon Mar 20 03:06:17 1995 *************** *** 36,42 **** # Get local CFLAGS and LFLAGS definitions from c-client directory ! CFLAGS = -I$C `cat $C/CFLAGS` LDFLAGS = $(CCLIENTLIB) `cat $C/LDFLAGS` imapd: $(CCLIENTLIB) imapd.o --- 36,42 ---- # Get local CFLAGS and LFLAGS definitions from c-client directory ! CFLAGS = -I$C `cat $C/CFLAGS` -O2 LDFLAGS = $(CCLIENTLIB) `cat $C/LDFLAGS` imapd: $(CCLIENTLIB) imapd.o diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/imap/ANSI/ipopd/Makefile ./imap/ANSI/ipopd/Makefile *** ../pine3.91.orig/imap/ANSI/ipopd/Makefile Tue Oct 12 13:32:58 1993 --- ./imap/ANSI/ipopd/Makefile Mon Mar 20 03:06:18 1995 *************** *** 36,42 **** # Get local CFLAGS and LFLAGS definitions from c-client directory ! CFLAGS = -I$C `cat $C/CFLAGS` LDFLAGS = $(CCLIENTLIB) `cat $C/LDFLAGS` ipopd: ipop2d ipop3d --- 36,42 ---- # Get local CFLAGS and LFLAGS definitions from c-client directory ! CFLAGS = -I$C `cat $C/CFLAGS` -O2 LDFLAGS = $(CCLIENTLIB) `cat $C/LDFLAGS` ipopd: ipop2d ipop3d diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/imap/non-ANSI/c-client/Makefile ./imap/non-ANSI/c-client/Makefile *** ../pine3.91.orig/imap/non-ANSI/c-client/Makefile Tue Oct 11 07:13:22 1994 --- ./imap/non-ANSI/c-client/Makefile Mon Mar 20 03:06:18 1995 *************** *** 193,199 **** sun: # SUN-OS $(MAKE) mtest OS=$@ EXTRADRIVERS="$(EXTRADRIVERS)" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto \ ! CFLAGS="-g -Dconst= $(EXTRACFLAGS)" \ LDFLAGS="-ldl" sv2: # SVR2 --- 193,199 ---- sun: # SUN-OS $(MAKE) mtest OS=$@ EXTRADRIVERS="$(EXTRADRIVERS)" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto \ ! CFLAGS="-O2 -Dconst= $(EXTRACFLAGS)" \ LDFLAGS="-ldl" sv2: # SVR2 diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/imap/non-ANSI/c-client/bezerk.c ./imap/non-ANSI/c-client/bezerk.c *** ../pine3.91.orig/imap/non-ANSI/c-client/bezerk.c Fri Oct 7 06:46:32 1994 --- ./imap/non-ANSI/c-client/bezerk.c Mon Mar 20 03:06:18 1995 *************** *** 1644,1657 **** i = (sod + i) - s; /* total number of tries */ do { /* fast search for newline */ if ((0x80808080 & (0x01010101 + (0x7f7f7f7f & ~(m ^ *(Word *) s)))) && ! (s1 = ((s[3] == '\n') ? (s + 4) : ! ((s[2] == '\n') ? (s + 3) : ! ((s[1] == '\n') ? (s + 2) : ! ((s[0] == '\n') ? (s + 1) : NIL)))))) { ! VALID (s1,t,ti,zn); /* interesting word, check it closer */ if (ti) return s1; } ! else s += 4; /* try next word */ i -= 4; /* count a word checked */ } while (i > 24); /* continue until end of plausible string */ } --- 1644,1657 ---- i = (sod + i) - s; /* total number of tries */ do { /* fast search for newline */ if ((0x80808080 & (0x01010101 + (0x7f7f7f7f & ~(m ^ *(Word *) s)))) && ! /* find rightmost newline in word */ ! ((*(s1 = s + 3) == '\n') || (*--s1 == '\n') || ! (*--s1 == '\n') || (*--s1 == '\n'))) { ! s1++; /* skip past newline */ ! VALID (s1,t,ti,zn); /* see if valid From line */ if (ti) return s1; } ! s += 4; /* try next word */ i -= 4; /* count a word checked */ } while (i > 24); /* continue until end of plausible string */ } diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/imap/non-ANSI/c-client/pop3.c ./imap/non-ANSI/c-client/pop3.c *** ../pine3.91.orig/imap/non-ANSI/c-client/pop3.c Mon Oct 10 09:01:54 1994 --- ./imap/non-ANSI/c-client/pop3.c Mon Mar 20 03:06:19 1995 *************** *** 363,370 **** LOCAL->buf = (char *) fs_get ((LOCAL->buflen = MAXMESSAGESIZE) + 1); nmsgs = strtol (LOCAL->reply,NIL,10); /* create caches */ ! LOCAL->header = (char **) fs_get (i * sizeof (char *)); ! LOCAL->body = (char **) fs_get (i * sizeof (char *)); for (i = 0; i < nmsgs;) { /* initialize caches */ LOCAL->header[i] = LOCAL->body[i] = NIL; /* instantiate elt */ --- 363,370 ---- LOCAL->buf = (char *) fs_get ((LOCAL->buflen = MAXMESSAGESIZE) + 1); nmsgs = strtol (LOCAL->reply,NIL,10); /* create caches */ ! LOCAL->header = (char **) fs_get (nmsgs * sizeof (char *)); ! LOCAL->body = (char **) fs_get (nmsgs * sizeof (char *)); for (i = 0; i < nmsgs;) { /* initialize caches */ LOCAL->header[i] = LOCAL->body[i] = NIL; /* instantiate elt */ diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/imap/non-ANSI/imapd/Makefile ./imap/non-ANSI/imapd/Makefile *** ../pine3.91.orig/imap/non-ANSI/imapd/Makefile Tue Oct 12 13:29:19 1993 --- ./imap/non-ANSI/imapd/Makefile Mon Mar 20 03:06:19 1995 *************** *** 36,42 **** # Get local CFLAGS and LFLAGS definitions from c-client directory ! CFLAGS = -I$C `cat $C/CFLAGS` LDFLAGS = $(CCLIENTLIB) `cat $C/LDFLAGS` imapd: $(CCLIENTLIB) imapd.o --- 36,42 ---- # Get local CFLAGS and LFLAGS definitions from c-client directory ! CFLAGS = -I$C `cat $C/CFLAGS` -O2 LDFLAGS = $(CCLIENTLIB) `cat $C/LDFLAGS` imapd: $(CCLIENTLIB) imapd.o diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/imap/non-ANSI/ipopd/Makefile ./imap/non-ANSI/ipopd/Makefile *** ../pine3.91.orig/imap/non-ANSI/ipopd/Makefile Tue Oct 12 13:32:58 1993 --- ./imap/non-ANSI/ipopd/Makefile Mon Mar 20 03:06:19 1995 *************** *** 36,42 **** # Get local CFLAGS and LFLAGS definitions from c-client directory ! CFLAGS = -I$C `cat $C/CFLAGS` LDFLAGS = $(CCLIENTLIB) `cat $C/LDFLAGS` ipopd: ipop2d ipop3d --- 36,42 ---- # Get local CFLAGS and LFLAGS definitions from c-client directory ! CFLAGS = -I$C `cat $C/CFLAGS` -O2 LDFLAGS = $(CCLIENTLIB) `cat $C/LDFLAGS` ipopd: ipop2d ipop3d diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/pico/composer.c ./pico/composer.c *** ../pine3.91.orig/pico/composer.c Fri Sep 30 06:29:19 1994 --- ./pico/composer.c Mon Mar 20 03:30:40 1995 *************** *** 144,149 **** --- 144,152 ---- struct on_display ods; /* global on_display struct */ + /* enable-8bit-in-subject feature*/ + int ext_char_in_subject = 0; + /* * useful macros */ *************** *** 981,988 **** } } ! ! if(ch > 0x1f && ch < 0x7f){ /* char input */ /* * if we are allowing editing, insert the new char * end up leaving tbufp pointing to newly --- 984,997 ---- } } ! ! if(ch > 0x1f && ( ! (ch < 0xff && (ch != 0x7f) && (ext_char_in_subject)) | ( ! (ch < 0x7f && (!ext_char_in_subject)) ! ))) ! { ! ! /* char input */ /* * if we are allowing editing, insert the new char * end up leaving tbufp pointing to newly diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/pico/makefile.lnx ./pico/makefile.lnx *** ../pine3.91.orig/pico/makefile.lnx Wed Oct 12 05:57:36 1994 --- ./pico/makefile.lnx Mon Mar 20 03:06:20 1995 *************** *** 40,48 **** # #includes symbol for debugging ! DASHO= -g #for normal build ! #DASHO= -O2 CFLAGS= -Dbsd -DLINUX -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL --- 40,48 ---- # #includes symbol for debugging ! #DASHO= -g #for normal build ! DASHO= -O2 CFLAGS= -Dbsd -DLINUX -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/pico/makefile.sun ./pico/makefile.sun *** ../pine3.91.orig/pico/makefile.sun Sat Feb 26 02:37:22 1994 --- ./pico/makefile.sun Mon Mar 20 03:06:20 1995 *************** *** 40,48 **** # #includes symbol info for debugging ! DASHO= -g #for normal build ! #DASHO= -O CFLAGS= -Dsun -DJOB_CONTROL -ldl --- 40,48 ---- # #includes symbol info for debugging ! #DASHO= -g #for normal build ! DASHO= -O2 CFLAGS= -Dsun -DJOB_CONTROL -ldl diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/pine/init.c ./pine/init.c *** ../pine3.91.orig/pine/init.c Tue Oct 11 05:34:29 1994 --- ./pine/init.c Mon Mar 20 03:15:01 1995 *************** *** 864,874 **** --- 864,876 ---- {"enable-alternate-editor-cmd", F_ENABLE_ALT_ED}, {"enable-alternate-editor-implicitly", F_ALT_ED_NOW}, {"enable-bounce-cmd", F_ENABLE_BOUNCE}, + {"enable-8bit-in-subject", F_8BIT_IN_SUBJECT}, {"enable-flag-cmd", F_ENABLE_FLAG}, {"enable-full-header-cmd", F_ENABLE_FULL_HDR}, {"enable-incoming-folders", F_ENABLE_INCOMING}, {"enable-jump-shortcut", F_ENABLE_JUMP}, {"enable-mail-check-cue", F_SHOW_DELAY_CUE}, + {"enable-send-only-8bit", F_SEND_ONLY_8BIT}, {"enable-suspend", F_CAN_SUSPEND}, {"enable-tab-completion", F_ENABLE_TAB_COMPLETE}, {"enable-unix-pipe-cmd", F_ENABLE_PIPE}, *************** *** 2089,2100 **** } /*--- Var is not user controlled, leave it alone for back compat ---*/ ! if(!v->is_user){ ! if(which_vars == ParseLocal){ pline->is_var = 0; pline->line = cpystr(line); pline++; - } continue; } --- 2091,2100 ---- } /*--- Var is not user controlled, leave it alone for back compat ---*/ ! if(!v->is_user && which_vars == ParseLocal){ pline->is_var = 0; pline->line = cpystr(line); pline++; continue; } diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/pine/makefile.lnx ./pine/makefile.lnx *** ../pine3.91.orig/pine/makefile.lnx Wed Oct 12 06:24:30 1994 --- ./pine/makefile.lnx Mon Mar 20 03:06:21 1995 *************** *** 57,65 **** RM= rm -f LN= ln -s MAKE= make ! OPTIMIZE= # -O2 PROFILE= # -pg ! DEBUG= -DDEBUG IMAPDIR= ../c-client PICODIR= ../pico --- 57,65 ---- RM= rm -f LN= ln -s MAKE= make ! OPTIMIZE= -O2 PROFILE= # -pg ! DEBUG= # -DDEBUG IMAPDIR= ../c-client PICODIR= ../pico diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/pine/makefile.sun ./pine/makefile.sun *** ../pine3.91.orig/pine/makefile.sun Wed Oct 5 14:14:51 1994 --- ./pine/makefile.sun Mon Mar 20 03:06:21 1995 *************** *** 57,65 **** RM= rm -f LN= ln -s MAKE= make ! OPTIMIZE= # -O PROFILE= # -pg ! DEBUG= -g -DDEBUG IMAPDIR= ../c-client PICODIR= ../pico --- 57,65 ---- RM= rm -f LN= ln -s MAKE= make ! OPTIMIZE= -O2 PROFILE= # -pg ! DEBUG= # -g -DDEBUG IMAPDIR= ../c-client PICODIR= ../pico diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/pine/osdep/os-sun.h ./pine/osdep/os-sun.h *** ../pine3.91.orig/pine/osdep/os-sun.h Tue Oct 11 06:30:00 1994 --- ./pine/osdep/os-sun.h Mon Mar 20 03:06:21 1995 *************** *** 146,152 **** #define POSTPONED_MAIL "postponed-mail" #define POSTPONED_MSGS "postponed-msgs" #define INTERRUPTED_MAIL ".pine-interrupted-mail" ! #define DF_MAIL_DIRECTORY "mail" #define INBOX_NAME "INBOX" #define DF_SIGNATURE_FILE ".signature" #define DF_ELM_STYLE_SAVE "no" --- 146,152 ---- #define POSTPONED_MAIL "postponed-mail" #define POSTPONED_MSGS "postponed-msgs" #define INTERRUPTED_MAIL ".pine-interrupted-mail" ! #define DF_MAIL_DIRECTORY "Mail" #define INBOX_NAME "INBOX" #define DF_SIGNATURE_FILE ".signature" #define DF_ELM_STYLE_SAVE "no" diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/pine/other.c ./pine/other.c *** ../pine3.91.orig/pine/other.c Sat Oct 8 08:29:44 1994 --- ./pine/other.c Mon Mar 20 03:48:44 1995 *************** *** 1089,1094 **** --- 1089,1098 ---- return(h_config_compose_rejects_unqual); case F_FAKE_NEW_IN_NEWS: return(h_config_news_uses_recent); + case F_SEND_ONLY_8BIT: + return(h_config_send_only_8bit); + case F_8BIT_IN_SUBJECT: + return(h_config_ext_char_in_subject); default : return(NO_HELP); } diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/pine/pine.h ./pine/pine.h *** ../pine3.91.orig/pine/pine.h Sat Oct 8 08:25:55 1994 --- ./pine/pine.h Mon Mar 20 03:32:58 1995 *************** *** 600,606 **** #define F_PRESERVE_START_STOP 40 #define F_COMPOSE_REJECTS_UNQUAL 41 #define F_FAKE_NEW_IN_NEWS 42 ! #define F_LAST_FEATURE 42 /* RESET WITH NEW FEATURES */ #if (F_LAST_FEATURE > (LARGEST_BITMAP - 1)) Whoa! Too many features! --- 600,608 ---- #define F_PRESERVE_START_STOP 40 #define F_COMPOSE_REJECTS_UNQUAL 41 #define F_FAKE_NEW_IN_NEWS 42 ! #define F_SEND_ONLY_8BIT 43 ! #define F_8BIT_IN_SUBJECT 44 ! #define F_LAST_FEATURE 44 /* RESET WITH NEW FEATURES */ #if (F_LAST_FEATURE > (LARGEST_BITMAP - 1)) Whoa! Too many features! diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/pine/pine.hlp ./pine/pine.hlp *** ../pine3.91.orig/pine/pine.hlp Tue Oct 11 09:47:48 1994 --- ./pine/pine.hlp Mon Mar 20 05:08:01 1995 *************** *** 3560,3565 **** --- 3560,3588 ---- useful if you have accounts on multiple computers. + ====== h_config_send_only_8bit ===== + FEATURE: enable-send-only-8bit + + This feature changes the original content-transfer-encoding scheme. If + set, Pine will use 8BIT instead of encoding 8 bit character into BASE64 + or QUOTEQUOTED-PRINTABLE in mail body. (See also \"enable-8bit-in- + subject\".) + + NOTE: This feature should only be set if you can make sure both the + sender and recipient are using 8 bit capable MTAs. + + + ====== h_config_ext_char_in_subject + FEATURE: enable-8bit-in-subject + + This feature enables 8 bit ascii character editing in Subject field. + By default, subject field accepts 7 bit character only. (See also + \"enable-send-only-8bit\".) + + NOTE: This feature should only be set if you can make sure both the + sender and recipient are using 8 bit capable MTAs. + + ====== h_config_attach_in_reply ====== FEATURE: include-attachments-in-reply diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/pine/send.c ./pine/send.c *** ../pine3.91.orig/pine/send.c Tue Oct 11 04:01:34 1994 --- ./pine/send.c Mon Mar 20 03:31:52 1995 *************** *** 159,164 **** --- 159,167 ---- int open_fcc(); #endif /* ANSI */ + /* enable-8bit-in-subject feature */ + extern ext_char_in_subject; + /* * Buffer to hold pointers into pine data that's needed by pico. *************** *** 166,172 **** */ static PICO pbuf; - /* * Storage object where the FCC is to be written. * This is amazingly bogus. Much work was done to put messages --- 169,174 ---- *************** *** 1755,1760 **** --- 1757,1769 ---- clear_cursor_pos(); dprint(1, (debugfile, "\n ---- COMPOSER ----\n")); + + /* enable extended ascii char feature */ + if (F_ON(F_8BIT_IN_SUBJECT, ps_global)) + ext_char_in_subject = 1; + else + ext_char_in_subject = 0; + editor_result = pico(&pbuf); dprint(4, (debugfile, "... composer returns (0x%x)\n", editor_result)); *************** *** 3395,3401 **** body->type = TYPETEXT; if (new_encoding == ENCOTHER) ! new_encoding = ENC7BIT; /* short lines, no 8 bit */ } else if ((eight_bit_chars * 100L)/len < 30L) { /* --- 3404,3414 ---- body->type = TYPETEXT; if (new_encoding == ENCOTHER) ! if (F_ON(F_SEND_ONLY_8BIT, ps_global)) ! new_encoding = ENC8BIT; ! else ! new_encoding = ENC7BIT; /* short lines, no 8 bit */ ! } else if ((eight_bit_chars * 100L)/len < 30L) { /* *************** *** 3421,3427 **** * unlikely to be readable with > 30% of the * text encoded anyway, so we might as well save space... */ ! new_encoding = ENCBINARY; /* > 30% 8 bit chars */ } } --- 3434,3445 ---- * unlikely to be readable with > 30% of the * text encoded anyway, so we might as well save space... */ ! ! if (F_ON(F_SEND_ONLY_8BIT, ps_global)) ! new_encoding = ENC8BIT; ! else ! new_encoding = ENCBINARY; /* > 30% 8 bit chars */ ! } } *************** *** 3942,3948 **** switch (body->encoding) { /* all else needs filtering */ case ENC8BIT: /* encode 8BIT into QUOTED-PRINTABLE */ ! gf_link_filter(gf_8bit_qp); break; case ENCBINARY: /* encode binary into BASE64 */ --- 3960,3967 ---- switch (body->encoding) { /* all else needs filtering */ case ENC8BIT: /* encode 8BIT into QUOTED-PRINTABLE */ ! if (F_OFF(F_SEND_ONLY_8BIT, ps_global)) ! gf_link_filter(gf_8bit_qp); break; case ENCBINARY: /* encode binary into BASE64 */ *************** *** 3998,4004 **** if (body->encoding) /* note: encoding 7BIT never output! */ sprintf (*dst += strlen (*dst),"Content-Transfer-Encoding: %s\015\012", body_encodings[body->encoding == ENCBINARY ? ENCBASE64 : ! body->encoding == ENC8BIT ? ENCQUOTEDPRINTABLE : body->encoding <= ENCMAX ? body->encoding : ENCOTHER]); if (body->id) sprintf (*dst += strlen (*dst),"Content-ID: %s\015\012", --- 4017,4025 ---- if (body->encoding) /* note: encoding 7BIT never output! */ sprintf (*dst += strlen (*dst),"Content-Transfer-Encoding: %s\015\012", body_encodings[body->encoding == ENCBINARY ? ENCBASE64 : ! body->encoding == ENC8BIT ? ! F_ON(F_SEND_ONLY_8BIT, ps_global) ? ENC8BIT : ! ENCQUOTEDPRINTABLE : body->encoding <= ENCMAX ? body->encoding : ENCOTHER]); if (body->id) sprintf (*dst += strlen (*dst),"Content-ID: %s\015\012", -- _____ _____ _____ ____ _____ | \| _ \ Ming-Yen Hsu, Database Lab. NCU Taiwan ROC | \/ \| | | | | | _ < Computer Science & Information Engineering | | | <--<| | | |_____/|_____/ Electronic Mail : myhsu@db.csie.ncu.edu.tw |__|__/\____/\_____| *** End *** bye... Klaus Nuehlen kn@nux.gun.de Gartenstr. 13 Tel: +49 2843 80525 47495 Rheinberg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 16 08:39:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16691; Fri, 16 Jun 95 08:39:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13358; Fri, 16 Jun 95 08:28:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13334; Fri, 16 Jun 95 08:27:59 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 16 Jun 1995 16:15:18 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id QAA04850; Fri, 16 Jun 1995 16:20:06 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 16:20:06 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Jean Pierre LeJacq Cc: zinc , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: changing frequency pine checks /var/spool/mail/~username for new mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Actually, it's *Ctrl/L* to force a new mail check. (You _can_ also do it by doing "N" several times at the bottom of the index, but Ctrl/L is the preferred (and instantaneous) way of forcing a check. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 16 Jun 1995, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote: > > i'd like to be able to have pine check for new mail more frequently > > than whatever the default is. i have poured through the man pages and > > the .pinerc file and seen no hints about this. i have also built pine > > several times and don't remember this ever being an option. if anyone > > There is a macro defined in one of the source files (can't remember > which now) that sets the time interval between new mail checks. > You can also use ^N when your in the INBOX index to force a mail > check. > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Jean Pierre LeJacq Quoin, Inc > > Suite 200 North local voice: +1.203.295.0874 > 124 Mount Auburn Street voice: +1.617.576.5885 > Cambridge, MA 02138-5700 fax: +1.617.576.5876 > U.S.A. internet: jplejacq@quoininc.com > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 16 09:17:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19086; Fri, 16 Jun 95 09:17:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14263; Fri, 16 Jun 95 09:08:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14255; Fri, 16 Jun 95 09:08:55 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26594; Fri, 16 Jun 95 09:08:51 -0700 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 09:08:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Mary Aplin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine dropping part of address when using nicknames In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Mary, Without seeing the .pinerc file that was deleted, it is impossible to say, but it sure sounds like you would have found some character(s) --perhaps garbage-- after the "use-only-domain-name=" variable. -teg On Fri, 16 Jun 1995, Mary Aplin wrote: > > Yesterday afternoon I posted a question as to why pine was dropping part > of the address in a nickname. Example: aplin@alpha.loyno.edu was being > changed to aplin@loyno.edu when my user (just one) used my nickname from > the system address book. > > I'm not sure why it happened, but I deleted the .pinerc file in the user > account and gave him a new one. It seems to be working fine now. > > If anyone has any ideas WHY this happened, I would like to know... > > Mary Aplin > Loyola University, New Orleans > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 16 12:27:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29318; Fri, 16 Jun 95 12:27:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18918; Fri, 16 Jun 95 12:23:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18912; Fri, 16 Jun 95 12:23:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMgwi-00038EC; Fri, 16 Jun 95 12:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tknab@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Terry Knab) Subject: Re: My setup configuration Date: 16 Jun 1995 12:49:34 -0600 Message-Id: <3rsjnu$7jv@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: (plardner@aug.com) wrote: : Can someone please tell me how I have messed up my configuration file. : The line for personal-name reads as follows: : = That is the default setting of Pine. To change it, type a to add value and change your personal name. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 16 13:18:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01574; Fri, 16 Jun 95 13:18:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19762; Fri, 16 Jun 95 13:12:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from opus.sirsi.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19752; Fri, 16 Jun 95 13:12:47 -0700 Received: (from darren@localhost) by opus.sirsi.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA01272; Fri, 16 Jun 1995 15:15:01 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 15:15:00 -0500 (CDT) From: Darren Hiebert To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Customized headers: Reply To Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am in need of having to add a "Reply To:" header to my outgoing messages. I have attempted to use the "customized-hdrs" list variable to do this: customized-hdrs=Reply-to: darren@sirsi.com, Return-path: darren@sirsi.com which contains my domain name only, rather than the specific host the message originates from. The problem is that this seems to have no effect whatsoever. Does anyone have any ideas why setting this does not work? I have it set now and if you look at the header of this message you will see that it is missing. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Darren Hiebert "Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?" Hunstville, AL Phone: (205) 922-9820 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 16 14:40:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04377; Fri, 16 Jun 95 14:40:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21228; Fri, 16 Jun 95 14:36:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21222; Fri, 16 Jun 95 14:36:14 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06409; Fri, 16 Jun 95 14:36:10 -0700 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 14:36:02 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Ray Atnip Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine mysteriously quit working? In-Reply-To: <3rmq48$j8m@news.onramp.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Something has happened to corrupt your INBOX to make Pine think that it is not a mail folder. Something as simple as a newline before the first message can throw Pine off.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 14 Jun 1995, Ray Atnip wrote: > I have been using Pine 3.89 for 6 months with Linux to read mail > which is retreived from my internet provider via pop which puts > the retrieved mail in /usr/spool/mail/ray. On June 1 when I went > to read my mail pine asked if I want to save copies of my sent and > readmsgs which I responded with a yes. After saving these files > pine informed me that /usr/spool/mail/ray was not a valid mailbox > folder. (I haven't changed anything it worked fine the day B4). > I checked file permissions, etc and could find nothing wrong. > > I then got a copy of 3.91 and installed it. It doesn't tell me that > /usr/spool/mail/ray is an invalid folder but always shows that I > have 1 unread message which turns out to be ALL of my mail. i.e. > If I have 10 unread messages they are all in this one message. > When I read my mail with elm, it sees the ten messages. > > Anyone have any ideas what's happened to cause this anomoly? > > Thanks in advance... > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Ray Atnip | Got a Caribean soul I can barely control > raya@onramp.net | and some Texas hidden here in my heart. > | J. Buffett > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 16 14:52:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04778; Fri, 16 Jun 95 14:52:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21451; Fri, 16 Jun 95 14:48:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21445; Fri, 16 Jun 95 14:48:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMjB0-00038CC; Fri, 16 Jun 95 14:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: helen ruth etters Subject: flagging messages Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 16:41:18 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have my inbox set up so that after I read messages, they automatically go to a folder called "received messages" unless I delete them. If there is something I want to keep in the inbox, I flag it New. For about a week, I've not been able to flag messages as new. I press the *, and then the N for New, and it says "Message x flagged as New." But the automatic D (for Delete) is still there. I try again, and it says "Message x already flagged New". But it's not. And when I log out, all the messages behave as though deleted. Ideas, anyone? I haven't changed anything in my setup. Thanks, @ @ @ @ @ @ | @ | @ @ | @ | @ | @ \|/\|/\|/\|/\|/ Helen Etters \|/\|/\|/\|/\|/\|/\|/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 16 14:52:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04809; Fri, 16 Jun 95 14:52:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21378; Fri, 16 Jun 95 14:43:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21372; Fri, 16 Jun 95 14:43:47 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06534; Fri, 16 Jun 95 14:43:42 -0700 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 14:43:31 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Mary Aplin Cc: pine Subject: Re: Pine addressing problmes In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 15 Jun 1995, Mary Aplin wrote: > Hello PINEers -- > > Something very strange has occurred. One of my users, who has been using > pine for a while now, suddenly has a problem in sending mail. He is > trying to send mail to me (aplin@alpha.loyno.edu). When he types my > nickname (aplin) in the to field, instead of becoming > "aplin@alpha.loyno.edu" it becomes "aplin@loyno.edu". It's dropping the > first part of the domain name. I've looked at his setup/config, and > everything looks okay. He swears he did not change anything. > Double check the "user-domain" and "use-only-domain" settings in setup/config... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 16 15:06:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05281; Fri, 16 Jun 95 15:06:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21619; Fri, 16 Jun 95 15:00:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21613; Fri, 16 Jun 95 15:00:20 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06809; Fri, 16 Jun 95 15:00:17 -0700 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 15:00:08 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: helen ruth etters Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: flagging messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: "New" and "Deleted" are separate flags. By doing "*N" you set the New flag, but that does not affect the Deleted flag. Since Pine only uses one column to display status, you only see the "D" even though the message is also marked "New". The solution is to Undelete ("U" or "*!D") the message in addition to "*N". |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 16 Jun 1995, helen ruth etters wrote: > > I have my inbox set up so that after I read messages, they automatically > go to a folder called "received messages" unless I delete them. If there > is something I want to keep in the inbox, I flag it New. For about a > week, I've not been able to flag messages as new. I press the *, and > then the N for New, and it says "Message x flagged as New." But the > automatic D (for Delete) is still there. I try again, and it says > "Message x already flagged New". But it's not. And when I log out, > all the messages behave as though deleted. Ideas, anyone? I haven't > changed anything in my setup. > > Thanks, > @ @ @ @ @ > @ | @ | @ @ | @ | @ | @ > \|/\|/\|/\|/\|/ Helen Etters \|/\|/\|/\|/\|/\|/\|/ > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 16 15:29:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06199; Fri, 16 Jun 95 15:29:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22095; Fri, 16 Jun 95 15:25:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22089; Fri, 16 Jun 95 15:25:28 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA26842; Sat, 17 Jun 95 00:23:33 +0200 Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 00:23:33 +0200 (METDST) From: "Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?=)" To: The Pine Discussion List Subject: Bouncing a huge message Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Acknowledge-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: Hallo! Today I try to bounce a realy huge message (about 5 MB --- I tested my=20 video/mpeg mailcap entry). But pine did not do it and after it either=20 running an eternal viewer (mpeg_play) or sending a very short message=20 (about five lines) did not work. Pine always told me: `Not enough space'=20 and then `Internal error: not enough space' (or something like that).=20 Before trying to bounce both those things worked well. Is it a bug? I am=20 sorry I cannot send you things like pine.debug but I accidentally removed= =20 them. Thanks for any explanation. V. S. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz Europe Home page: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-en.html Z=E1kladn=ED str=E1nka: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-cz.html Zakladni stranka: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-ce.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 16 16:23:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08084; Fri, 16 Jun 95 16:23:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23889; Fri, 16 Jun 95 16:18:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23883; Fri, 16 Jun 95 16:18:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMked-00038IC; Fri, 16 Jun 95 16:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk (Jeff Goldberg) Subject: Beam and Whiteside MS-Windows/TCP-IP Date: Wed, 07 Jun 1995 13:21:49 BST Message-Id: <1995Jun7.132149@tehran> Status: O X-Status: I would like to install Pine in an MS-Windows environment using "Beam and Whiteside" TCP/IP. (a) Has any one done this? (b) Is it possible? (c) can I use a compiled pcpine_?.zip or do I need to compile my own? (d) if the former, which pcpine_?.zip do I get. (e) if I need to recompile, what advice can you give? (f) Is there a Pine FAQ (I didn't check rtfm, but I did look on what I hope is a local mirror (src.doc.ic.ac.uk). Thanks. -- Jeffrey Goldberg Email: J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk WWW: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 16 17:38:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11339; Fri, 16 Jun 95 17:38:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24601; Fri, 16 Jun 95 17:33:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24595; Fri, 16 Jun 95 17:33:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMlm3-00038CC; Fri, 16 Jun 95 17:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cczdao@unicorn.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk (David Osborne) Subject: Re: Delivery Confirmation? Date: 7 Jun 1995 12:28:27 GMT Message-Id: <3r461b$b28@griffin.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Robyn Boyle writes: > On pegasus mail, there is a function whereby you can get notification that > your mail has actually been delivered to the other person's server. Is there > any such function on Pine? Pegasus uses some "private" headers for that function, since there's no official method in the RFC822 mail standard supporting receipt acknowledgement. Depending on the mailer used at the remote end, you *may* find that getting Pine to insert Return-Receipt-To: your-address or Acknowledge-To: your-address headers (perhaps by adding either or both as "custom headers" in your Pine config) will do what you want. There's a group in the Internet Engineering Task Force working on the specification of this type of facility, but until that's published and widely implemented, only ad hoc methods like these may work and then only for those recipients whose mailers support them. -- ~~David Osborne Cripps Computing Centre, University of Nottingham From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 16 20:40:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15391; Fri, 16 Jun 95 20:40:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26721; Fri, 16 Jun 95 20:36:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from stemmons36.onramp.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26715; Fri, 16 Jun 95 20:36:52 -0700 Received: by denali (Smail3.1.28.1 #65) id m0sMorw-0007saC; Fri, 16 Jun 95 22:48 CDT Message-Id: From: raya@denali (Ray Atnip) Subject: Re: Pine mysteriously quit working? To: dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 22:48:24 -0500 (CDT) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "David L Miller" at Jun 16, 95 02:36:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3538 Status: O X-Status: > > > Something has happened to corrupt your INBOX to make Pine think that it is > not a mail folder. Something as simple as a newline before the first > message can throw Pine off.... David, Thanks for responding. My INBOX appears to be a pointer to my mail file which is /usr/spool/mail/raya. I have completely removed the file and let pine create a new one for me. With 3.91 pine always shows only one message waiting but if I use elm to read the same file, elm sees all the messages i.e. 22 messages and each on a seprate line. Right now there are 22 messages in my mail file and when pine is started and I open INBOX folder I see: PINE 3.91 FOLDER INDEX Folder: INBOX(READONLY) Message 1 of 1 NEW N 1 Jun 16 raya@onramp.net (118K) /usr/spool/mail/raya Pine has worked great and I really love it as a mail reader but this happened suddenly when I executed pine on June 1 and as far as I know I've made no changes in the mail arena. When I start up my Linux (1.2.9) and login in with my user id, 'pop' is started which will connect to my ISP and retreieve any mail on the ISP machine and deposit it in /usr/spool/mail/raya. I've been doing it this way since mid Jan. The three things that really stand out to me are that: 1) It sees all my mail as one mail message 2) The one mail message is from me (raya@onramp.net) 3) The INBOX is opened as READONLY permissions on my mail file is: -rw------- 1 raya system 115632 Jun 16 22:15 /usr/spool/mail/raya I've tried chmod 660 with group being system and mail but this made no diff- erence. And like I stated earlier, I rm'd the file and then executed elm to create the file for me but this has made no difference either. Could the header format from my ISP changed? I've verified that there is no blank line in the beginning of my mail file. I just did a find / -name INBOX and there is nothing on my system named that. I assumed that INBOX is an internal variable which is set equal to the mail file you want to read. I think tonite I will install pine from scratch creating a new Mail directory in my home directory and follow the installation instructions. If you can shed further lite on this I would appreciate it, I also cc'd pine-info on this. Again thanks for your help. > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On 14 Jun 1995, Ray Atnip wrote: > > > I have been using Pine 3.89 for 6 months with Linux to read mail > > which is retreived from my internet provider via pop which puts > > the retrieved mail in /usr/spool/mail/ray. On June 1 when I went > > to read my mail pine asked if I want to save copies of my sent and > > readmsgs which I responded with a yes. After saving these files > > pine informed me that /usr/spool/mail/ray was not a valid mailbox > > folder. (I haven't changed anything it worked fine the day B4). > > I checked file permissions, etc and could find nothing wrong. > > > > I then got a copy of 3.91 and installed it. It doesn't tell me that > > /usr/spool/mail/ray is an invalid folder but always shows that I > > have 1 unread message which turns out to be ALL of my mail. i.e. > > If I have 10 unread messages they are all in this one message. > > When I read my mail with elm, it sees the ten messages. > > > > Anyone have any ideas what's happened to cause this anomoly? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 16 22:19:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17542; Fri, 16 Jun 95 22:19:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29252; Fri, 16 Jun 95 22:08:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29246; Fri, 16 Jun 95 22:08:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMq5f-00038CC; Fri, 16 Jun 95 22:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: karlsson@cloud9.net (Lukas Karlsson) Subject: Re: Adding CTRL-C to Q (exit) choices Date: 4 Jun 1995 08:40:40 GMT Message-Id: <3qrri8$s0v@news.cloud9.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Jim Jaworski (soo696@freenet.mb.ca) wrote: > I use pine for most of my Usenet newsgroups but on occasion use > another Unix system for some of them using the tin newsreader. > I am used to pressing q to back up to the previous menu (article > selection/group selection). Sometimes my hand forgets that I am using > pine and I press q instead of i to go back to the articl selection menu. > I am given a choice of 'saving mail in MAILBOX' (a local feature) or > not. If I choose n for no I still get booted out of pine. What should > happen is that there should be a CRTL-C option there compliant with the > other pine menus to abort the quit. > It's VERY frustrating when this happens, to have to re-enter > pine, then go to the Usenet News folder, especially with newsgroups of > considerable size (i.e. >100 new messages). > What can be done about this? Is it a small feature to add > whereby the local News admin. could just recompile their version of pine > or would that be the responsibility of the authors of pine itself? actually, this would not make as much sense as it sounds (although i have been in the very same situation many times). if the option "quit-without-confirm" is set, then pine just quits when you type q. assuming that is already set, when you type q, pine knows it will be quitting. when it has a question for you, like should i move all the read messages into the default folder, it just wants to know tha answer to that question, and then it will go back to what it was doing. quitting. to get the type of functionality that you want, get rid of the "quit-without-confirm" option. this will then ask you everytime you try and quit, if you really want to quit. annoying, but sometimes, it is quite worth it. - lukas -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lukas Karlsson karlsson@cloud9.net Cloud 9 Internet White Plains, New York From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 16 23:23:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18802; Fri, 16 Jun 95 23:23:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28385; Fri, 16 Jun 95 23:13:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28379; Fri, 16 Jun 95 23:13:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMr4R-00038CC; Fri, 16 Jun 95 23:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" Subject: Re: Customized headers: Reply To Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 16:40:03 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Just put 'Reply-to: darren@sirsi.com' (without the quotes), that should work (see my own header on this message). With the comma and the rest the header line is invalid, and apparently doesn't even leave your site! And 'Return-path:' should be added by the mail delivery system, not by the user anyways... Zoli fekete@bc.edu (note my old full address @bcuxs2 is retired) "For my assured failures and derelictions, I ask pardon beforehand of my betters and my equals in my calling." - Rudyard Kipling On 16 Jun 1995, Darren Hiebert wrote: > I am in need of having to add a "Reply To:" header to my outgoing messages. > I have attempted to use the "customized-hdrs" list variable to do this: > > customized-hdrs=Reply-to: darren@sirsi.com, > Return-path: darren@sirsi.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 17 00:28:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20562; Sat, 17 Jun 95 00:28:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00991; Sat, 17 Jun 95 00:18:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00985; Sat, 17 Jun 95 00:18:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMs7C-00038CC; Sat, 17 Jun 95 00:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: alan@jac.co.uk (Alan Murphy) Subject: Re: pine not sending out mail Message-Id: References: <3rk6of$eqv@genesis.member.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 08:32:21 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <3rk6of$eqv@genesis.member.com>, Gregg Brekke wrote: >alan@jac.co.uk (Alan Murphy) wrote: >>I have recently loaded pine 3.91 onto our UnixWare 1.1 system for a >>colleague. However, after a week or so of pine appearing to work >>ok, it now does not send out *any* mail, although there is no error >>(pine seems to think that it is OK), and worse, no evidence of the >>mail anywhere :-(. Elm, mailx etc seem to be working fine. >> >>Anyone any ideas ? > > >Make sure you are setting the "smtp-server=" variable to the fqdn of your >mail server/forwarder in the .pinerc file. > Thanks, I had already discoverd this by running pine in debug mode and looking at how it was trying to send the mail, in this case it was using 'sendmail', which wasnt working :-(. As you suggested above, I changed the "smtp-server" variable, but in my case I used the global config file /usr/local/pine/pine.conf. You can type 'pine -conf' to generate the default config file if you dont already have this file. -- Alan Murphy jAC, Hemel Hempstead, Herts, England. Tel: +44-(0)442-235515 Fax: +44-(0)442-233515 email:alan@jac.co.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 17 00:44:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20906; Sat, 17 Jun 95 00:44:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29307; Sat, 17 Jun 95 00:40:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29301; Sat, 17 Jun 95 00:40:44 -0700 Received: from srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca by freenet.calgary.ab.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA16073; Sat, 17 Jun 1995 01:37:54 -0600 Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 01:37:54 -0600 (MDT) From: "Israel M. Lachovsky" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: helpdesk@freenet.calgary.ab.ca Subject: Uploads to Pine Message-Id: Organization: Calgary Free-Net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to upload to Pine, from either Lotus or WordPerfect? (I'm pretty "green" to the 'net,so if someone outv there *does* have an answer/routine, please detail in such a way that a "novice" like myself, can make heads/tails out of your instructions!) Thanks in advance. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Israel Lachovsky 1314 10 Ave.S.E. Calgary, Alberta Canada (403) 263-7052 lachovsk@freenet.calgary.ab.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 17 04:29:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26280; Sat, 17 Jun 95 04:29:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01883; Sat, 17 Jun 95 04:24:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01877; Sat, 17 Jun 95 04:24:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sMvvL-00038EC; Sat, 17 Jun 95 04:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lukas Karlsson Subject: Re: inbox readonly problem Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 14:53:04 -0400 Message-Id: References: <199506161840.LAA17826@netcom10.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199506161840.LAA17826@netcom10.netcom.com> Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 16 Jun 1995, Dick Moores wrote: > Sorry to trouble you, but I'd really like to get a copy of your script. > Could you tell me how to? ---------- cut here ---------- cut here ---------- cut here ---------- #!/bin/sh REALPINE=/usr/local/bin/pine PINE=`ps -x | grep ${REALPINE} | grep -v "grep ${REALPINE}"` if [ -n "${PINE}" ] then echo "You already have a pine process running." else exec ${REALPINE} $* fi ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lukas Karlsson karlsson@cloud9.net Cloud 9 Internet White Plains, New York From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 17 11:21:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03509; Sat, 17 Jun 95 11:21:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08922; Sat, 17 Jun 95 11:05:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08914; Sat, 17 Jun 95 11:05:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sN2Cd-00038CC; Sat, 17 Jun 95 11:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jason@IS.NET (Jason R. Mastaler) Subject: Building PINE 3.91 on Solaris 2.4? Date: 17 Jun 1995 18:01:02 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I got the source for PINE 3.91 from ftp.cac.washington.edu and was surprised to find that the "build" script included to make the PINE binaries did not have a target-address for Solaris. SunOS 4.1 was the closest. The documentation said to look in /doc/pine-ports for information on other ports, but that file was no where to be found. I noticed a makefile for the long dead Solaris 2.2, but I was unable to do anything with it. I read thru the FAQ, but found nothing on this. Am I missing something here? What do I need to compile PINE on Solaris 2.4? -- Jason From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 17 12:12:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04448; Sat, 17 Jun 95 12:12:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06158; Sat, 17 Jun 95 12:00:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06150; Sat, 17 Jun 95 12:00:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sN34g-00038CC; Sat, 17 Jun 95 11:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rosemary Lyndall Subject: Re: Alternative spelling programme. Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 02:56:01 +0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Thanks. Ispell is now installed :-) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rosemary Lyndall Rosemary from DownUnder _--_|\ Clinical Neuro-psychologist lyndall@haywire.DIALix.oz.au Perth / \ Perth, Western Australia lyndall@csuvax1.murdoch.edu.au -->\_.--._/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------v- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 17 12:28:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04672; Sat, 17 Jun 95 12:28:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06313; Sat, 17 Jun 95 12:16:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from homer05.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06307; Sat, 17 Jun 95 12:16:48 -0700 Received: by homer05.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA69170; Sat, 17 Jun 95 12:16:47 -0700 X-Sender: dlm@homer05.u.washington.edu Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 12:16:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "David L. Miller" To: Ray Atnip Cc: David L Miller , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine mysteriously quit working? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 16 Jun 1995, Ray Atnip wrote: > Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 22:48:24 -0500 (CDT) > From: Ray Atnip > To: David L Miller > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Pine mysteriously quit working? > > > > > > > Something has happened to corrupt your INBOX to make Pine think that it is > > not a mail folder. Something as simple as a newline before the first > > message can throw Pine off.... > David, > Thanks for responding. My INBOX appears to be a pointer to my mail file which > is /usr/spool/mail/raya. I have completely removed the file and let pine create > a new one for me. With 3.91 pine always shows only one message waiting but if > I use elm to read the same file, elm sees all the messages i.e. 22 messages > and each on a seprate line. Right now there are 22 messages in my mail file and > when pine is started and I open INBOX folder I see: > > PINE 3.91 FOLDER INDEX Folder: INBOX(READONLY) Message 1 of 1 NEW > N 1 Jun 16 raya@onramp.net (118K) /usr/spool/mail/raya > > Pine has worked great and I really love it as a mail reader but this happened > suddenly when I executed pine on June 1 and as far as I know I've made no > changes in the mail arena. When I start up my Linux (1.2.9) and login in with > my user id, 'pop' is started which will connect to my ISP and retreieve any > mail on the ISP machine and deposit it in /usr/spool/mail/raya. I've been > doing it this way since mid Jan. > > The three things that really stand out to me are that: > 1) It sees all my mail as one mail message > 2) The one mail message is from me (raya@onramp.net) > 3) The INBOX is opened as READONLY > That means that Pine is opening it as a flat text file, which is always READONLY with the curent drivers. It is possible that something from your ISP is causing a problem. At this point I would have to see an example of your /usr/spool/mail/raya file to identify the problem. One thing you could check is to make sure that the "From " line is getting written in the correct format, particularly the date field, which is a fixed format. Compare it with another folder that Pine can read... > permissions on my mail file is: > > -rw------- 1 raya system 115632 Jun 16 22:15 /usr/spool/mail/raya > > I've tried chmod 660 with group being system and mail but this made no diff- > erence. And like I stated earlier, I rm'd the file and then executed elm to > create the file for me but this has made no difference either. > > Could the header format from my ISP changed? I've verified that there is no > blank line in the beginning of my mail file. > > I just did a find / -name INBOX and there is nothing on my system named that. > I assumed that INBOX is an internal variable which is set equal to the mail > file you want to read. > > I think tonite I will install pine from scratch creating a new Mail directory > in my home directory and follow the installation instructions. > > If you can shed further lite on this I would appreciate it, I also cc'd > pine-info on this. > > Again thanks for your help. > > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > > > On 14 Jun 1995, Ray Atnip wrote: > > > > > I have been using Pine 3.89 for 6 months with Linux to read mail > > > which is retreived from my internet provider via pop which puts > > > the retrieved mail in /usr/spool/mail/ray. On June 1 when I went > > > to read my mail pine asked if I want to save copies of my sent and > > > readmsgs which I responded with a yes. After saving these files > > > pine informed me that /usr/spool/mail/ray was not a valid mailbox > > > folder. (I haven't changed anything it worked fine the day B4). > > > I checked file permissions, etc and could find nothing wrong. > > > > > > I then got a copy of 3.91 and installed it. It doesn't tell me that > > > /usr/spool/mail/ray is an invalid folder but always shows that I > > > have 1 unread message which turns out to be ALL of my mail. i.e. > > > If I have 10 unread messages they are all in this one message. > > > When I read my mail with elm, it sees the ten messages. > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas what's happened to cause this anomoly? > > -- David L. Miller /|\ Not everything that can be counted counts; dlm@u.washington.edu < + > and not everything counts that can be \|/ counted. -- A. Einstein From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 17 21:45:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14844; Sat, 17 Jun 95 21:45:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16434; Sat, 17 Jun 95 21:36:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16428; Sat, 17 Jun 95 21:36:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNC4s-00038CC; Sat, 17 Jun 95 21:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine mysteriously quit working? Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 13:48:23 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: There are two known causes of this problem. I think that (2) is the one that is biting you, since you've been using this for several months. Both of these have to do with the internal "From " headers. (1) some locally-written programs that deliver mail write the day as a variable-length field, when it is really fixed, e.g. "Jun 1" instead of "Jun 1". (2) a popular fetch-via-POP perl script has a typo in it that will cause it to write "June" instead of "Jun" in the header. This has caused a number of unpleasant surprises to people who use it this month. Basically, the solution is to find the problem and fix it. For (2), it's a matter of changing "June" to "Jun" in the script. All the other months are in their correct 3-letter forms. On 16 Jun 1995, Ray Atnip wrote: > Thanks for responding. My INBOX appears to be a pointer to my mail file which > is /usr/spool/mail/raya. I have completely removed the file and let pine create > a new one for me. With 3.91 pine always shows only one message waiting but if > I use elm to read the same file, elm sees all the messages i.e. 22 messages > and each on a seprate line. Right now there are 22 messages in my mail file and > when pine is started and I open INBOX folder I see: > > PINE 3.91 FOLDER INDEX Folder: INBOX(READONLY) Message 1 of 1 NEW > N 1 Jun 16 raya@onramp.net (118K) /usr/spool/mail/raya > > Pine has worked great and I really love it as a mail reader but this happened > suddenly when I executed pine on June 1 and as far as I know I've made no > changes in the mail arena. When I start up my Linux (1.2.9) and login in with > my user id, 'pop' is started which will connect to my ISP and retreieve any > mail on the ISP machine and deposit it in /usr/spool/mail/raya. I've been > doing it this way since mid Jan. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 17 22:06:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15205; Sat, 17 Jun 95 22:06:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11916; Sat, 17 Jun 95 21:56:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11910; Sat, 17 Jun 95 21:56:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNCMV-00038CC; Sat, 17 Jun 95 21:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eweis@yorick.umd.edu (Weis - Ellen) Subject: sent-mail file Date: 18 Jun 1995 04:03:57 GMT Message-Id: <3s08jd$a7k@hecate.umd.edu> Status: O X-Status: Recently my sent-mail folder has stopped saving messages I've sent. Does anyone have a suggestion as to how I can have that folder save every e-mail that I send? Thanks, ellen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 17 22:28:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15533; Sat, 17 Jun 95 22:28:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16981; Sat, 17 Jun 95 22:21:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16975; Sat, 17 Jun 95 22:21:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNCkR-00038CC; Sat, 17 Jun 95 22:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Moises N. Morales" Subject: Confirmation Reading! Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 15:36:19 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi everybody! Does anybody know if it is possible to set up PINE to get a "Confirmation Reading" and/or a "Confirmation Delivery" when I send an e-mail? (as in Pegasus Mail). Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Moises Nefi Morales morales@cs.byu.edu 1337 Maple Lane - Provo, Utah 84604 (801) 375-4220 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 17 23:17:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16191; Sat, 17 Jun 95 23:17:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12516; Sat, 17 Jun 95 23:06:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12510; Sat, 17 Jun 95 23:06:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNDU8-00038CC; Sat, 17 Jun 95 23:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lparke3@vms1.gmu.edu Control: cancel <1995Jun4.224831@vms1.gmu.edu> Subject: cmsg cancel <1995Jun4.224831@vms1.gmu.edu> Date: 05 Jun 1995 05:29:19 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: This spam has been cancelled. An explanation of this action has been posted to news.admin.net-abuse.misc. Please read that message if you have any questions. Feel free to contact me at the Reply-To address if you have any further questions. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 17 23:48:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16671; Sat, 17 Jun 95 23:48:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17879; Sat, 17 Jun 95 23:41:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17873; Sat, 17 Jun 95 23:41:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNDys-00038CC; Sat, 17 Jun 95 23:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Gilbrough Subject: Setting tabs in pico Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 23:36:55 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I use pico on a sun system as a stand-alone editor. I've probably got 10+ hours in trying to figure out how to change the tabstops from every 8 to every 4. Any clues on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanx. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 18 11:25:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01353; Sun, 18 Jun 95 11:25:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19950; Sun, 18 Jun 95 11:13:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19944; Sun, 18 Jun 95 11:13:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNOq4-00038CC; Sun, 18 Jun 95 11:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Confirmation Reading! Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 20:54:36 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 17 Jun 1995, Moises N. Morales wrote: > Does anybody know if it is possible to set up PINE to get a > "Confirmation Reading" and/or a "Confirmation Delivery" when I send an > e-mail? (as in Pegasus Mail). My understanding is that Pine, itself, does not. Some "private" mail systems, such as Pegasus, may. However, to the best of my knowledge, there is no Internet standard for such confirmation. You can go into Pine's configuration (if you have Pine 3.91) and put in a return-receipt-requested header, but even then, you will get a receipt only if the receiving mail system honors it. Not all do. If it does, you will know only that the recipient's mail system got it, not that the recipient has read it. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 18 13:07:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03597; Sun, 18 Jun 95 13:07:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27771; Sun, 18 Jun 95 12:58:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27765; Sun, 18 Jun 95 12:58:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNQTm-00038EC; Sun, 18 Jun 95 12:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "David R. Bogdan" Subject: Loss of ^^ capability Date: 18 Jun 1995 06:53:38 GMT Message-Id: <3s0ihi$lgg@iyokan.cc.matsuyama-u.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I hope this is not an old, many times-answered question, but when I switched to Telnet 2.6.1 JB16, I lost the ability to use the ^^ sequence to mark text in Pico. I don't know what mapping problems are going on, but I would like to get that capability back. All I get now is a "6" when I try it. david From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 18 14:24:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04782; Sun, 18 Jun 95 14:24:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21770; Sun, 18 Jun 95 14:13:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21764; Sun, 18 Jun 95 14:13:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNRaq-00038CC; Sun, 18 Jun 95 14:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: question about sent-mail folder Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 22:24:33 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 2 Jun 1995, Simone Shoemaker wrote: > I notice that every time I send a message, it gets copied to a folder > called "sent mail". Is there any purpose behind this? As as far as I'm > concerned, I don't need to keep those messages around. Is there a way to > tell the Pine to quit doing this - or at least ask me whether I want to > save a particular message? Check out the following option under Setup/Config from the pine main menu: Ian >From unix-pine online help: > OPTION: Default-FCC (File Carbon Copy) > > This value specifies where a copy of outgoing mail should be saved. If > this is not a path name, it will be in the default collection for saves. > Any valid folder specification, local or IMAP, is allowed. This default > folder carbon copy only applies when the fcc-rule-name (see later in this > configuration screen) is set to use the default folder. Unix Pine default > is normally "sent-mail" in the default folder collection. PC-Pine default > is "SENTMAIL" (normally stored as SENTMAIL.MTX) > > To suppress saving of outgoing mail, set: default-fcc="" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > FOR MORE INFORMATION: From the Main Menu, select "L FOLDER LIST" and press > "?" for Help... Look for the section "Valid Folder Names". From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 18 14:52:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05372; Sun, 18 Jun 95 14:52:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29077; Sun, 18 Jun 95 14:43:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29071; Sun, 18 Jun 95 14:43:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNS3G-00038CC; Sun, 18 Jun 95 14:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: john@pacer.apana.org.au (John Saunders) Subject: Problem with berzerk mailbox handling Date: 17 Jun 1995 01:15:05 GMT Message-Id: <3rtaap$1r1@pacer.valhalla.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I have a problem using pine. It seems that sendmail sometimes doesn't place a blank line between the last message and the 'From user@host ' line that marks the beginning of the next message. Pine is able to correctly locate the 'From user@host ' line but it removes the last NL character from the previous message. Thus when the message is exported or piped to a command (e.g. when using ftpmail), the last line isn't terminated with a NL and causes all sorts of problems. The worst is when I tag 2 messages and pipe them to a command, the first line of the 2nd message is concatinated onto the last line of the 1st message. So my question is, has anybody else seen this and possibly fixed (or hacked it if sendmail is at fault) it. I believe the fix needs to be in the c-client but I havn't found the correct place to add it. I simply want to append a NL if the last character in the message isn't already a NL. Thanks. -- . +------------------------------------------------------------+ ,--_|\ | John Saunders - (Home) john@pacer.apana.org.au | / Oz \ | - (Work) johns@rd.scitec.com.au | \_,--\_/ | "Mmmmmmmm beer..." - Homer Simpson | v +------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 18 15:14:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05880; Sun, 18 Jun 95 15:14:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22266; Sun, 18 Jun 95 15:03:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22260; Sun, 18 Jun 95 15:03:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNSQl-00038CC; Sun, 18 Jun 95 15:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Pollak Subject: Re: Any pattern-matching and filtering capability in Pine 3.91 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 03:51:02 -0400 Message-Id: References: <9505312224.AB18292@delta1.deltanet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: > On Wed, 31 May 1995, LervA wrote: > > > In article <3q4ndi$1fp@latte.eng.umd.edu> you wrote: > > : I'm a new user of Pine (only started using it this month), and would like > > : to know if Pine has any utilities for redirecting mail to specific > > : folders based on their subject or their sender. > > : If Pine lacks such utilities, are there others that can do the same > > : thing? If the only thing that will do the job is the utility "filter", > > : examples of rules files would be greatly appreciated. > > > > : Scott It's true, there is no filtering in Pine. However, if you mark "enable-aggregate-commands" in the config file, you can sort things out pretty fast with the following sequence of commands: ; -- enables aggregate command t -- mark by Text a -- search All text (sometimes the mailing list name is only in the CC) s -- Save foldername -- folder you want to save it in x -- eXpunge. Removes the files. You can then repeat the process if you have several mailing lists to deal with. In the end, which comes pretty quick, you've got all your personal mail in front of you, and all the mailing list mail in the appropriate folders. Personally I found this simpler and more fool proof than Procmail for mailing lists that generated under fifty letters a day. Hope this helps, Michael __________________________________________________________________________ Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 18 16:09:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06923; Sun, 18 Jun 95 16:09:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00152; Sun, 18 Jun 95 15:58:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00144; Sun, 18 Jun 95 15:58:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNTG9-00038CC; Sun, 18 Jun 95 15:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" Subject: Re: Followup-to:? Reply-to? Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 06:12:55 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3qtqe9$6mv@news1.channel1.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3qtqe9$6mv@news1.channel1.com> Status: O X-Status: You've got to Setup/Config and add: customized-hdrs = Followup-to: - then you'll get that field when composing the post! Zoli fekete@bc.edu (note my old full address @bcuxs2 is retired) "For my assured failures and derelictions, I ask pardon beforehand of my betters and my equals in my calling." - Rudyard Kipling From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 18 16:20:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07105; Sun, 18 Jun 95 16:20:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00321; Sun, 18 Jun 95 16:10:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from staff.nada.kth.se by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00315; Sun, 18 Jun 95 16:10:19 -0700 Received: (from psv@localhost) by staff.nada.kth.se (8.6.10/8.6.9) id BAA07105; Mon, 19 Jun 1995 01:10:16 +0200 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 01:10:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: Peter Svanberg To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problem with berzerk mailbox handling In-Reply-To: <3rtaap$1r1@pacer.valhalla.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 17 Jun 1995, John Saunders wrote: > I have a problem using pine. It seems that sendmail sometimes doesn't place > a blank line between the last message and the 'From user@host ' line > that marks the beginning of the next message. ... Two things in connection with this: (1) The on-the-fly created "From " line which is inserted when using the Export command has no space between the address and the date - bug, I suppose? Example: From psv@nada.kth.seMon Jun 19 00:49:33 1995 (2) It *would* be very nice (as I have said before) if there was a way to get a "From " line in the Pipe and/or Print command, to get a safe way for a postprocessing program to find the message boundaries. Peter Svanberg, NADA, KTH, Stockholm, Sweden From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 18 18:14:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09119; Sun, 18 Jun 95 18:14:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24048; Sun, 18 Jun 95 18:03:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24042; Sun, 18 Jun 95 18:03:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNVCE-00038CC; Sun, 18 Jun 95 18:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ben Parker Subject: Re: customized-hdrs does not work ? Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 19:25:18 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have experienced this same problem with PCPine 3.91 on my PPP machine and BSD Pine 3.91 on my unix shell account. Both have been properly set for reply-to (or is it necessary to re-specify ALL headers for this to work?) I see the Reply-To when I do a Ctrl-R (expand headers) during message-compose but I never see the 'Reply-To' line in the actual email/news posting. (check this msg/news post to see!) ================== Ben Parker (IL) bparker@interaccess.com 71450.2735@compuserve.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >On 6 Jun 1995, Stefan Hougardy wrote: ... >> I set customized-hdrs=Return-Receipt-To: xx@yy.zz ... >The customized-hdrs option was not implemented until Pine 3.90, please ask >your system administrator to upgrade to the current Pine 3.91 release... >|\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 >|/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 18 19:30:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10631; Sun, 18 Jun 95 19:30:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02682; Sun, 18 Jun 95 19:19:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02676; Sun, 18 Jun 95 19:19:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNWPg-00038CC; Sun, 18 Jun 95 19:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kieran@interport.net (Aaron Dickey) Subject: Re: Loss of ^^ capability Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 19:48:59 -0500 Message-Id: References: <3s0ihi$lgg@iyokan.cc.matsuyama-u.ac.jp> Status: O X-Status: In article <3s0ihi$lgg@iyokan.cc.matsuyama-u.ac.jp>, "David R. Bogdan" wrote: > I hope this is not an old, many times-answered question, but when I switched to Telnet > 2.6.1 JB16, I lost the ability to use the ^^ sequence to mark text in Pico. I don't know > what mapping problems are going on, but I would like to get that capability back. All I get > now is a "6" when I try it. David-- Go back to whereever you downloaded Telnet from. In that same directory, there should be a "kchr" resource you need to download. After downloading it (it's very small), drag it onto your System FILE (not just the System Folder). Then go to the Control Panels, open up the Keyboards panel, and choose the new kchr. That's all you need to do. (You may have to restart the Mac, but you may not.) This is all due to a tiny bug in the kchr that comes with the System. The new kchr simply compensates for it. If you can't find the kchr, let me know and I'll email it to you; it's only a few K. -- Aaron Dickey - Associated Press New York HotWIRED Net Soup kieran@river.org,kieran@interport.net I work for the companies above; I don't speak for them. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 18 21:43:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13526; Sun, 18 Jun 95 21:43:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26199; Sun, 18 Jun 95 21:34:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26193; Sun, 18 Jun 95 21:34:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNYVT-00038CC; Sun, 18 Jun 95 21:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cstu@loc.gov (Colleen Stumbaugh) Subject: Re: Loss of ^^ capability Date: 18 Jun 1995 16:47:47 GMT Message-Id: <3s1lbj$4iq@rs7.loc.gov> References: <3s0ihi$lgg@iyokan.cc.matsuyama-u.ac.jp> Status: O X-Status: David, Here is something to try; when using pine via my modem at home, I must press the key, then the Ctrl-^ to get mark to work. Maybe it will help you. Colleen David R. Bogdan (bogdan@cc.matsuyama-u.ac.jp) wrote: : I hope this is not an old, many times-answered question, but when I switched to Telnet : 2.6.1 JB16, I lost the ability to use the ^^ sequence to mark text in Pico. I don't know : what mapping problems are going on, but I would like to get that capability back. All I get : now is a "6" when I try it. : david From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 18 21:56:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13825; Sun, 18 Jun 95 21:56:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26416; Sun, 18 Jun 95 21:49:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26410; Sun, 18 Jun 95 21:49:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNYkk-00038CC; Sun, 18 Jun 95 21:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Gibson Subject: Re: Feature Request for Pine 3.92 Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 21:41:02 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Yey another useful feature in pine would be the ability to have several different alternate editors available. Although there are multiple uses for the ability to execute a program/script while inside pine, one can only set up a single program to run. BTW, I use the Alt-Editor to add prewritten answers to common questions that I get from users. (I work as a sysadmin) /// C= Amiga | Michael Elliot Gibson /// The Computer for the Creative Mind | gibson@facility.cs.utah.edu \\\/// Home of the Video Toaster | http://www.cs.utah.edu/~gibson \XX/ And the 1st Multimedia Computer | Cade Lab Operator From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 18 22:33:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14825; Sun, 18 Jun 95 22:33:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26812; Sun, 18 Jun 95 22:24:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26806; Sun, 18 Jun 95 22:24:21 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06640; Sun, 18 Jun 95 22:24:18 -0700 Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 22:24:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Ben Parker Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: customized-hdrs does not work ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: What exactly are you setting the Reply-To: header to? That is, what is the *complete* Reply-To: entry you have entered? -teg On Sun, 18 Jun 1995, Ben Parker wrote: > I have experienced this same problem with PCPine 3.91 on my PPP machine > and BSD Pine 3.91 on my unix shell account. Both have been properly set > for reply-to (or is it necessary to re-specify ALL headers for this to > work?) I see the Reply-To when I do a Ctrl-R (expand headers) during > message-compose but I never see the 'Reply-To' line in the actual > email/news posting. (check this msg/news post to see!) > > ================== > Ben Parker (IL) bparker@interaccess.com 71450.2735@compuserve.com > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >On 6 Jun 1995, Stefan Hougardy wrote: > ... > >> I set customized-hdrs=Return-Receipt-To: xx@yy.zz > ... > >The customized-hdrs option was not implemented until Pine 3.90, please ask > >your system administrator to upgrade to the current Pine 3.91 release... > > >|\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > >|/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 19 00:46:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18395; Mon, 19 Jun 95 00:46:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07007; Mon, 19 Jun 95 00:34:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07001; Mon, 19 Jun 95 00:34:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNbLV-00038CC; Mon, 19 Jun 95 00:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert Burns Subject: Multiple From Lines causes problems Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 00:22:11 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: It seem that I occasionally recieve messages that contain multiple From: lines (excluding From user@host ). An example is as follows: Message-Id: <199506170744.JAA17943@grumble.grondar.za> To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Date: Sat Jun 17 02:53:20 1995 -> From: cc: FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.Org Subject: Re: DES, crypt and eBones Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 09:44:07 +0200 -> From: Mark Murray Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.Org The problem is that Pine reads the first From: line and translates it to root@mydomain in the index. Instead of user@domain in second followind From: line. Can I filter this out somehow? Its kind of a pain when scanning many messages. Please cc: rjbproc@vir.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Burns (rjbproc@vir.com) Mtl., Ca. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 19 03:08:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21692; Mon, 19 Jun 95 03:08:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29841; Mon, 19 Jun 95 02:55:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29835; Mon, 19 Jun 95 02:55:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNdWM-00038EC; Mon, 19 Jun 95 02:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: srb@cuci.nl (Stephen R. van den Berg) Subject: Re: Multiple From Lines causes problems Date: 19 Jun 1995 11:15:29 +0200 Message-Id: <3s3f7h$ng4@zeus.cuci.nl> References: Status: O X-Status: Robert Burns wrote: >It seem that I occasionally recieve messages that contain multiple From: >lines (excluding From user@host ). An example is as follows: > From: > From: Mark Murray >Can I filter this out somehow? Its kind of a pain when scanning many >messages. You could install procmail, and then filter all (or just the offending) messages through: formail -U From: which eliminates all but the last occurrence of From:. -- Sincerely, srb@cuci.nl Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless). A truly wise man never plays leapfrog with a unicorn. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 19 08:00:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28879; Mon, 19 Jun 95 08:00:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12782; Mon, 19 Jun 95 07:47:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12776; Mon, 19 Jun 95 07:47:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNi3J-00038CC; Mon, 19 Jun 95 07:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Petter Blomberg Subject: [Q]: Pine for Mac Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 14:56:53 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is there a port of Pine to Macintosh? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 19 08:33:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00235; Mon, 19 Jun 95 08:33:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03712; Mon, 19 Jun 95 08:20:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03706; Mon, 19 Jun 95 08:20:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNiZo-00038CC; Mon, 19 Jun 95 08:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Icewolf Subject: Q: New Newsgroup automatically subscribed? Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 17:07:18 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello, just a simple question, but I've never heard/seen an answer to it: Does Pine subscribe automatically to new Newsgroups, or must I edit the .newsrc by myself (on a UNIX-PINE 3.90/91) to get it? Thanx in advance Ciao Holger From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 19 10:15:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05699; Mon, 19 Jun 95 10:15:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16415; Mon, 19 Jun 95 10:10:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from thymaster.interaccess.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16409; Mon, 19 Jun 95 10:10:11 -0700 Received: from nwchi-d157.net.interaccess.com (d45.net.interaccess.com [199.79.208.45]) by thymaster.interaccess.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id MAA01819; Mon, 19 Jun 1995 12:06:29 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 12:02:39 -0700 (CDT) From: Ben Parker To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: customized-hdrs does not work ? X-Sender: bparker@pop.interaccess.com In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 18 Jun 1995, Terry Gray wrote: > What exactly are you setting the Reply-To: header to? That is, what is > the *complete* Reply-To: entry you have entered? (clipped from the Setup|Config screen:) customized-hdrs = Reply-to: bparker@interaccess.com Do I maybe need to put the address in < > brackets? I have sent the entire msg header and copy of my pinerc file to DLM. Let me know what else I can do/check for you. Thanks. ================== Ben Parker (IL) bparker@interaccess.com 71450.2735@compuserve.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 19 10:22:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06187; Mon, 19 Jun 95 10:22:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06408; Mon, 19 Jun 95 10:15:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06402; Mon, 19 Jun 95 10:15:07 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15909; Mon, 19 Jun 95 10:15:05 -0700 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 10:15:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Ben Parker Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: customized-hdrs does not work ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Ben, Take a look at your sent-mail folder. I'm betting you'll see the correct Reply-To: in those messages. This suggests that some software outside of Pine is stripping the Reply-To off the messages before they escape from interaccess.com. -teg On Mon, 19 Jun 1995, Ben Parker wrote: > On Sun, 18 Jun 1995, Terry Gray wrote: > > > What exactly are you setting the Reply-To: header to? That is, what is > > the *complete* Reply-To: entry you have entered? > > (clipped from the Setup|Config screen:) > > customized-hdrs = Reply-to: bparker@interaccess.com > > > Do I maybe need to put the address in < > brackets? I have sent the > entire msg header and copy of my pinerc file to DLM. > > Let me know what else I can do/check for you. Thanks. > > ================== > Ben Parker (IL) bparker@interaccess.com 71450.2735@compuserve.com > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 19 10:33:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06612; Mon, 19 Jun 95 10:33:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06805; Mon, 19 Jun 95 10:27:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from psycfrnd.interaccess.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06799; Mon, 19 Jun 95 10:27:02 -0700 Received: from nwchi-d157.net.interaccess.com (d45.net.interaccess.com [199.79.208.45]) by psycfrnd.interaccess.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id MAA02286; Mon, 19 Jun 1995 12:25:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 12:19:30 -0700 (CDT) From: Ben Parker To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: customized-hdrs does not work ? X-Sender: bparker@pop.interaccess.com In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 19 Jun 1995, Terry Gray wrote: > Ben, > Take a look at your sent-mail folder. I'm betting you'll see the correct > Reply-To: in those messages. This suggests that some software outside of > Pine is stripping the Reply-To off the messages before they escape from > interaccess.com. I'm willing to try anything but, below is the full header from the fcc folder. As you can see, the 'Reply-to' is not there. That suggests the problem is indeed in Pine, not in external software. Note this is true of both my PCPine and the BSD Unix Pine in my unix shell account. -------- >From bparker@interaccess.com Mon Jun 19 11:51:31 1995 Return-Path: bparker@interaccess.com Received: from flowbee.interaccess.com (flowbee.interaccess.com [198.80.0.32]) by home.interaccess.com (8.6.11/8.6.10) with ESMTP id TAA21117 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 1995 19:33:57 -0500 Received: from nwchi-d157.net.interaccess.com (nwchi-d141.net.interaccess.com [198.80.71.141]) by flowbee.interaccess.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id TAA04913; Sun, 18 Jun 1995 19:28:26 -0500 Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 19:25:18 -0700 (CDT) From: Ben Parker To: dlm@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: customized-hdrs does not work ? X-Sender: bparker@pop.interaccess.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 966 I have experienced this same problem with PCPine 3.91 on my PPP machine and BSD Pine 3.91 on my unix shell account. Both have been properly set for reply-to (or is it necessary to re-specify ALL headers for this to work?) I see the Reply-To when I do a Ctrl-R (expand headers) during message-compose but I never see the 'Reply-To' line in the actual email/news posting. (check this msg/news post to see!) ================== Ben Parker (IL) bparker@interaccess.com 71450.2735@compuserve.com -------- I suspect the problem is somehow in the way I have entered the 'Reply-To' data, but I'm not sure and it looks OK if you manually check the pinerc file(s) on both systems (I sent copies of those to DLM, I can send to you to if you want...) I have not tried a whole new FTP and install of PCPine. Maybe that is necessary (but then why would the BSD pine be similarly affected with this problem...?) Thanks! ================== Ben Parker (IL) bparker@interaccess.com 71450.2735@compuserve.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 19 10:33:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06631; Mon, 19 Jun 95 10:33:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06857; Mon, 19 Jun 95 10:28:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from databank.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06851; Mon, 19 Jun 95 10:28:27 -0700 Received: from localhost by databank.com (8.6.5/1.37) id MAA21563; Mon, 19 Jun 1995 12:36:52 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 12:36:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Trade Service System To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine on DG/UX Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: To anyone, I tried to compile Pine on our AViiON. It gave me some errors. I was using the .d-g extension. one error was os_d-g.c: In function 'portable_utime' storage size of 'times' isn't known. in os.c Make Don't know how to make /c-client/c-client.a came up. We are on DG/UX 5.4R3.10 patch 26. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Jim Beitmann From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 19 10:53:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07360; Mon, 19 Jun 95 10:53:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17348; Mon, 19 Jun 95 10:48:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from thurgood.uscourts.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17342; Mon, 19 Jun 95 10:48:08 -0700 Received: from pc4std.ao.uscourts.gov by thurgood.uscourts.gov with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0sNjzN-0002KKC; Mon, 19 Jun 95 12:47 EDT Received: from dgstd.ao.uscourts.gov by pc4std.ao.uscourts.gov with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #8) id m0sNkvo-0000DsC; Mon, 19 Jun 95 13:48 EDT Received: by dgstd.ao.uscourts.gov (Smail3.1.28.1 #11) id m0sNkvm-0006IiC; Mon, 19 Jun 95 13:48 EDT Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 13:48:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "J. Lynn Hilton" To: Trade Service System Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine on DG/UX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Insert the lines: #include #undef utime before the #define utime portable_utime line in file imap/ANSI/c-client/os_d-g.h. -- Lynn jlh@ao.uscourts.gov or lhilton@concept.com +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | J. Lynn Hilton | Home where the AViiONs roam | | Concept Automation Services, Inc. | | | AOUSC, One Columbus Circle, N.E. | Voice: 202-273-2413 | | Washington, DC 20544 | FAX: 202-273-2356 | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ On Mon, 19 Jun 1995, Trade Service System wrote: > To anyone, > I tried to compile Pine on our AViiON. It gave me some errors. > I was using the .d-g extension. > > one error was os_d-g.c: In function 'portable_utime' > storage size of 'times' isn't known. > > in os.c > > Make Don't know how to make /c-client/c-client.a > came up. > We are on DG/UX 5.4R3.10 patch 26. > Any help would be appreciated. > Thanks, Jim Beitmann > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 19 11:28:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09091; Mon, 19 Jun 95 11:28:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08256; Mon, 19 Jun 95 11:23:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rs8.loc.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08249; Mon, 19 Jun 95 11:23:37 -0700 Received: by rs8.loc.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA85887; Mon, 19 Jun 1995 14:23:36 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 14:23:36 -0400 (EDT) From: R Russell Neuswanger To: pine-info Subject: OK to double-dip? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: The pine I use is on a unix machine of some sort, somewhere in the bowels of this building; I get to it through OS/2 on this machine, using telnet. I can do so through either an OS/2 window, or a full-screen OS/2 session. Each has advantages: with the window I can use OS/2 cut&paste, which I find very useful, for instance for transferring things from other mailers or newsreaders (LaMail, NR/2, nonce glimpses at Usenet groups via the local gopher, ...); with the full screen, my print screen button works. I've been trying doing both at once -- actually, of course, one right after the other. The second always has to get a mailbox lock from the first, rendering the first into a read-only session. As long as I remember to get the sequence right, so that the one I want to actually use has the lock, there seems to be no problem with this. However, this morning both OS/2 icons began behaving so weirdly that I finally just did a shutdown and warm boot. This window now works normally again, or so it appears. But I'm wondering if I did something to it somehow yesterday, and should refrain from the double-dipping. Does it matter, for instance, to be accessing my pine mail on the same account simultaneously in normal and in read-only mode? Does it hurt to print from the read-only mode while the normal one goes on as usual? R. R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP), LC Edel sei der Mensch, Washington, DC 20540-4120 Hilfreich und gut! 202.707.8747 (shared line) Denn das allein neuswang@mail.loc.gov Unterscheidet ihn ... or (best) rrne@loc.gov -- Goethe No teratobibliotic entity avows *my* emanations. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 19 14:21:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17103; Mon, 19 Jun 95 14:21:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22643; Mon, 19 Jun 95 14:16:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22637; Mon, 19 Jun 95 14:16:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNo56-00038EC; Mon, 19 Jun 95 14:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "H. B. Ghoddusi" Subject: pine FAQ ? Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 17:10:24 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Hi there This is the first minutes that I've joined to this newsgroup and I am wondering if there is any FAQ on this newsgroup. If yes, I would appreciate it if anyone e-mail it to me. For the meantime 2 simple questions for the PINEist: 1- How can I include more than one (previously received mail) in sending e-mail? 2- How can I save my mails on floppy? Thanks in advance Hamid From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 19 15:05:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19171; Mon, 19 Jun 95 15:05:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23722; Mon, 19 Jun 95 15:00:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23716; Mon, 19 Jun 95 15:00:22 -0700 Received: from opava.utia.cas.cz by visla.utia.cas.cz with SMTP (16.7/16.2) id AA07670; Mon, 19 Jun 95 23:58:21 +0200 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 22:55:31 -0200 (CDT) From: "Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD?=) at Opava.UTIA.CAS.Cz" To: "H. B. Ghoddusi" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine FAQ ? X-Sender: vs@visla.utia.cas.cz In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 19 Jun 1995, H. B. Ghoddusi wrote: > 1- How can I include more than one (previously received mail) in sending= =20 > e-mail? Select all messages you want to include (via ; command) and then Apply=20 (A) Forward (F). This should do what you want. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz Europe Files (with description!) place to ftp://ftp.utia.cas.cz/pub/income/vs From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 19 15:05:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19181; Mon, 19 Jun 95 15:05:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23754; Mon, 19 Jun 95 15:01:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23748; Mon, 19 Jun 95 15:01:28 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17245; Mon, 19 Jun 95 15:01:21 -0700 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 15:01:08 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: /tmp/pinercLLxxxxx In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- These files are created when Pine is attempting to update the user's .pinerc file, but is unable to complete the update. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 13 Jun 1995, J. Kelly Cunningham wrote: > > I keep finding files named /tmp/pinercLLxxxx where LL is a pair of letters, > and xxxxx is a process number or something. > > Anyone know what's up? > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL+Xzq9/IU4uTDdHNAQGcBgH+NshzUUfP9g4Wa1sQb8uQZjLEd68xb4EO dWfBY8BiDdIEEylsK0oThKHVAMgixmR4iHZz5w4vzqUZlFeB17yA/w== =k8vN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 19 16:01:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21884; Mon, 19 Jun 95 16:01:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14651; Mon, 19 Jun 95 15:57:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14645; Mon, 19 Jun 95 15:57:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNpfv-00038EC; Mon, 19 Jun 95 15:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: af@dcs.rhbnc.ac.uk (Andreas Fuchsberger) Subject: Binary distribution of pine Date: 19 Jun 1995 21:55:57 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I once picked up a compiled binary of pine and imapd for HP-UX. Needless to say I forgot wherefrom. Now I need an imapd binary of Linux and/or Solaris 2. Anybody got any idea where I can get them from? Please post and email to , disregard above From: address. Andreas From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 19 16:10:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22304; Mon, 19 Jun 95 16:10:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25654; Mon, 19 Jun 95 16:07:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25648; Mon, 19 Jun 95 16:07:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNpoL-00038EC; Mon, 19 Jun 95 16:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: Sco Pine? Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 14:01:14 GMT Message-Id: References: <65901.gkerr@katydid.on.ca> Status: O X-Status: gkerr@katydid.on.ca wrote: : I'm looking for an edition of pine that will work on Sco Unix. : Could someone please e-mail me with information on how to obtain : said version? Thanks a lot. For everyone else, compiled binaries are available at ftp.celestial.com and odi.cwc.whecn.edu. However, they were built on SCO 3.2.4.2, and older versions may have troubles. If you do have trouble with those binaries, contact the guy who put them together, not the Pine team at UW. Pine does work, it's just the individual build that would need tweaking. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 19 18:32:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27233; Mon, 19 Jun 95 18:32:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17762; Mon, 19 Jun 95 18:27:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17756; Mon, 19 Jun 95 18:27:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNs4q-00038HC; Mon, 19 Jun 95 18:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vzvz@netcom.com (Philip Zeyliger) Subject: Re: Feature Request for Pine 3.92 Message-Id: References: Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 18:00:45 GMT Status: O X-Status: While on the topic of features, I think key mapping would be a brilliant feature. Many of us (who read mailing lists, etc.) use the same key combinations over and over. For instance I often delete everything in a folder with: ;aad. Also, if it were possible to have different sorts for different folders. On some of my high-volume mailing lists I like to sort Ordered-Subject. On others, I want it in date receive. Thank you for a great product! (When is the next version coming out?) :-) -- Philip Zeyliger -- ,'^\ _ _ _ _ _ ,-----------------------------. ; :.\ Philip Zeyliger | |/// \| U ||| |On all Internet Chess Servers| \ \ ~ vzvz@netcom.com | (( o ) ||o\ /) telnet ics.onenet.net 5000 | [___] |_|\\\_/|_n_||_/ '-----------------------------' From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 19 20:23:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29819; Mon, 19 Jun 95 20:23:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00752; Mon, 19 Jun 95 20:17:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00744; Mon, 19 Jun 95 20:17:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNtoS-00038RC; Mon, 19 Jun 95 20:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: riptide@one.net (nobody) Subject: mutiple INBOX problem Date: 20 Jun 1995 02:44:33 GMT Message-Id: <3s5cmh$h8f@mail.one.net> Status: O X-Status: Okeedoke, I'm still messing with mutiple INBOXes, and I still can't get it to work. Is it possible to direct mail from a certain person (ie. mail address: name@site.domain) to a specific INBOX. I did receive a helpful example for diverting mail under a certain subject heading to a specific box, but that won't work in my situation. I also tried setting up this INBOX system I was described with subject heading diverting, however, that actualy didn't work either. It seemed logical (going into .pinerc and adding an incoming_folders statement...."Blah Blah Subject" mail/blah....). However, when I had a message sent to me with the subject line, it still went to default INBOX, and when I decided to select the "blah" folder, it said folder does not exist. Then when I decided to create the folder myself with vi (just made a blank file) the folders where there, but still not having the appropriate messages sent to them, and they were also read only, which isn't good either. Well, I still would like to have mail from specific mail addresses (in this case a mailing list from a listserver) diverted to an appropriate folder. Thanks for any help.... JR From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 19 20:46:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00417; Mon, 19 Jun 95 20:46:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19391; Mon, 19 Jun 95 20:42:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19385; Mon, 19 Jun 95 20:42:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNuCR-00038EC; Mon, 19 Jun 95 20:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eweis@wolfe.umd.edu (Weis - Ellen) Subject: save mail to floppy Date: 19 Jun 1995 18:28:59 GMT Message-Id: <3s4flb$o1v@hecate.umd.edu> Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to save my mail onto a floppy disk? If so would you please send step by step instructions. Thanks! Ellen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 19 21:23:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01237; Mon, 19 Jun 95 21:23:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01590; Mon, 19 Jun 95 21:17:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01584; Mon, 19 Jun 95 21:17:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNujC-00038EC; Mon, 19 Jun 95 21:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Problem with berzerk mailbox handling Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 20:08:15 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3rtaap$1r1@pacer.valhalla.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3rtaap$1r1@pacer.valhalla.au> Status: O X-Status: On 17 Jun 1995, John Saunders wrote: > I have a problem using pine. It seems that sendmail sometimes doesn't place > a blank line between the last message and the 'From user@host ' line > that marks the beginning of the next message. Pine is able to correctly > locate the 'From user@host ' line but it removes the last NL character > from the previous message. Thus when the message is exported or piped to a > command (e.g. when using ftpmail), the last line isn't terminated with a > NL and causes all sorts of problems. The worst is when I tag 2 messages and > pipe them to a command, the first line of the 2nd message is concatinated > onto the last line of the 1st message. > > So my question is, has anybody else seen this and possibly fixed (or hacked > it if sendmail is at fault) it. I believe the fix needs to be in the > c-client but I havn't found the correct place to add it. I simply want to > append a NL if the last character in the message isn't already a NL. Try rebuilding Pine with the latest IMAP2bis toolkit, version 3.6.BETA, from ftp.cac.washington.edu, mail/imap.tar.Z Some bugs were fixed between version 3.5 (which Pine 3.91 ships with) and 3.6 -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 20 00:15:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05312; Tue, 20 Jun 95 00:15:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04039; Tue, 20 Jun 95 00:03:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04033; Tue, 20 Jun 95 00:03:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sNxGH-00038EC; Mon, 19 Jun 95 23:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stuff@earthlink.net Subject: Help With Killfiles Or Mail Filtering?? Date: 20 Jun 1995 01:23:50 GMT Message-Id: <3s57v6$4kt@mars.earthlink.net> Status: O X-Status: Several friends of mine are recieving e-mail bombs from some wacko calling himself 'satan@gnet.com'... They're on UNIX (university) accounts, so I'm assumint they are using PINE...I need to know how to help them create a killfile for this moron. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated...Please send responses to 'stuff@earthlink.net' Thanks, --Stuff @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ "God is a bullet, have mercy on us everyone" --Concrete Blonde stuff@earthlink.net @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 20 04:05:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12742; Tue, 20 Jun 95 04:05:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24755; Tue, 20 Jun 95 03:58:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24749; Tue, 20 Jun 95 03:58:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sO0tN-00038EC; Tue, 20 Jun 95 03:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: free-agent-spam@spam.com (Spammer) Date: 20 Jun 1995 08:41:20 GMT Message-Id: Subject: cmsg cancel <3s18bc$bnp@dub-news-svc-6.compuserve.com> Control: cancel <3s18bc$bnp@dub-news-svc-6.compuserve.com> Status: O X-Status: Spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 20 04:49:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13870; Tue, 20 Jun 95 04:49:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08454; Tue, 20 Jun 95 04:44:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08446; Tue, 20 Jun 95 04:44:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sO1iK-00038HC; Tue, 20 Jun 95 04:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ivler@crl.com (J.M. Ivler) Subject: Getting pine integrated with pgp Date: 20 Jun 1995 00:14:20 GMT Message-Id: <3s53ss$2mm@nntp.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: Is there a FAQ, or a URL, that explains how to integrate pine with pgp? Thanks. jmi ivler@crl.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 20 05:15:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14531; Tue, 20 Jun 95 05:15:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25801; Tue, 20 Jun 95 05:09:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25795; Tue, 20 Jun 95 05:09:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sO1xR-00038EC; Tue, 20 Jun 95 04:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" Subject: Re: Help with confidential list.. Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 07:05:31 -0400 Message-Id: References: <1995Jun7.031153.24720@rgfn.epcc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1995Jun7.031153.24720@rgfn.epcc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Put the addresses in the Bcc: field, and than they wouldn't be shown when sent (by any mailer, not just Pine)! Zoli fekete@bc.edu (note my old full address @bcuxs2 is retired) "For my assured failures and derelictions, I ask pardon beforehand of my betters and my equals in my calling." - Rudyard Kipling On Wed, 7 Jun 1995, Jared S Warren wrote: > I am running a very small mailing list through pine v 3.91, my question is, > how can I prevent the entire mailing list from being listed in the header, From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 20 06:31:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16230; Tue, 20 Jun 95 06:31:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09731; Tue, 20 Jun 95 06:24:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09725; Tue, 20 Jun 95 06:24:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sO3FC-00038EC; Tue, 20 Jun 95 06:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ivler@crl.com (J.M. Ivler) Subject: Re: Help With Killfiles Or Mail Filtering?? Date: 20 Jun 1995 01:57:13 GMT Message-Id: <3s59tp$4c8@nntp.crl.com> References: <3s57v6$4kt@mars.earthlink.net> Status: O X-Status: stuff@earthlink.net wrote: : Several friends of mine are recieving e-mail bombs from some wacko : calling himself 'satan@gnet.com'... They're on UNIX (university) accounts, : so I'm assumint they are using PINE...I need to know how to help them : create a killfile for this moron. Any suggestions would be greatly : appreciated...Please send responses to 'stuff@earthlink.net' : : Thanks, : --Stuff get and use a program called procmail. This will allow them to send the messages to /dev/null by the sender information. procmail is available from most of the popular FTP sites. jmi ivler@crl.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 20 06:34:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16304; Tue, 20 Jun 95 06:34:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26603; Tue, 20 Jun 95 06:29:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26597; Tue, 20 Jun 95 06:29:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sO3Ko-00038EC; Tue, 20 Jun 95 06:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: grk2237@is2.nyu.edu (Glenn R. Kurtzrock) Subject: Procmail problems Date: 20 Jun 1995 06:08:45 GMT Message-Id: <3s5old$2h3@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> Status: O X-Status: Hi I was wondering someone could help me out with this... I'm trying to install procmail on my account, and having all sorts of problems. I changed the base directory to my own in Makefile, and when I type make install, here's what I get: /bin/sh ./initmake /bin/sh "/usr/local/bin/is" "/bin/rm -f" "mv -f" "ln" "-lm - ldir -lx -lsocket -lnet -linet -lnsl_s -lnsl_i -lnsl -lsun -lgen -lsockdns" "/ lib /usr/lib /usr/local/lib" /dev/null "make" o "cc" "-O " "-s " "procmail l ockfile formail mailstat" "procmail formail lockfile" "procmailrc procmailsc p rocmailex" "src man" "/home/g/grk2237/bin" Warning: perverted make detected Whoeaaa! There's something fishy going on here. You have a look and see if you detect anything uncanny: ******************************************************* cc -O _autotst.c -o _autotst -s ./initmake: cc: execute permission denied :::: cc -O _autotst.c -o _autotst -s ./initmake: cc: execute permission denied :::: gcc -O _autotst.c -o _autotst -s ./initmake: gcc: execute permission denied :::: ******************************************************* I suggest you take a look at the definition of CFLAGS* and CC in the Makefile before you try make again. *** Exit 1 Stop. Any suggestions? Thanks! -- Glenn Kurtzrock grk2237@is2.nyu.edu NYU 1995 HEY! NEW HOME PAGE ---> http://www.cascade.net/~sunspot Sigma Phi Epsilon New York Gamma CR#659 GC#197,507 V D BL Since 11/1/01! Finger my account for the ".plan file from Hell"(tm) ...oOMcDcMOo... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 20 07:29:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18002; Tue, 20 Jun 95 07:29:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10758; Tue, 20 Jun 95 07:24:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10752; Tue, 20 Jun 95 07:24:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sO4Du-00038EC; Tue, 20 Jun 95 07:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Dunkin Subject: Pine attachments and MIME labelling Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 13:47:03 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Looking at the source, Pine 3.91 decides how to `MIME label' a file one attaches to a message being created by peeking at the first few bytes, and checking these against a few built-in file types it knows about. Are there any plans for Pine to support the (arguably more flexible) `mime.types' mechanism, whereby the labelling for given file types may be configured externally by the user, in just the same way as the viewer for received mail may be configured with `mailcap' ? I. -- Ian Dunkin -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 20 08:00:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18772; Tue, 20 Jun 95 08:00:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27729; Tue, 20 Jun 95 07:49:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27723; Tue, 20 Jun 95 07:49:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sO4U2-00038EC; Tue, 20 Jun 95 07:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ivler@crl.com (J.M. Ivler) Subject: Re: mutiple INBOX problem Date: 20 Jun 1995 04:51:13 GMT Message-Id: <3s5k41$6rf@nntp.crl.com> References: <3s5cmh$h8f@mail.one.net> Status: O X-Status: nobody (riptide@one.net) wrote: : : Okeedoke, I'm still messing with mutiple INBOXes, and I still can't : get it to work. Is it possible to direct mail from a certain person (ie. : mail address: name@site.domain) to a specific INBOX. I did receive a : helpful example for diverting mail under a certain subject heading to a : specific box, but that won't work in my situation. Isn't there a FAQ on this? Okay. there is a program called procmail that you can run on almost any machine. You modify your .forward file to send all incomming mail to the procmail program. Then you use a .procmailrc file to create rules for sorting mail into incomming folders based on any criteria you want. Tada! pine doesn't support filtering as part of the program. jmi ivler@crl.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 20 08:13:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19459; Tue, 20 Jun 95 08:13:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11480; Tue, 20 Jun 95 08:04:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11474; Tue, 20 Jun 95 08:04:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sO4k4-00038EC; Tue, 20 Jun 95 07:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Don Hayward Subject: ***address-loop-or-duplicate*** Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 10:32:37 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have an address list made up entirely of people in the local domain. It is my understanding that I need use only the userid of each party in the list. This works, mostly. When I mail to the list, three of the addresses in it fail and the MAILER_DAEMON mail failed message lists the failed addresses in this form: ... illegal character in hostname These userids are 3, 4, and 5 characters long, and not together in the list, and they are not duplicates. How can this be corrected? Thanks. don Don Hayward Mote Marine Laboratory don@marinelab.sarasota.fl.us 1600 Ken Thompson Parkway Voice: 941.388.4441 Sarasota, FL 34236 Fax: 941.388.4312 We are an independent, non-profit, marine and estuarine research and education facility. *** Opinions expressed here are my own (not MML policy) unless otherwise indicated. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 20 09:05:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22517; Tue, 20 Jun 95 09:05:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29359; Tue, 20 Jun 95 08:59:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29353; Tue, 20 Jun 95 08:59:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sO5gG-00038EC; Tue, 20 Jun 95 08:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: srb@cuci.nl (Stephen R. van den Berg) Subject: Re: Procmail problems Date: 20 Jun 1995 16:28:16 +0200 Message-Id: <3s6lu0$40q@zeus.cuci.nl> References: <3s5old$2h3@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> Status: O X-Status: Glenn R. Kurtzrock wrote: >cc -O _autotst.c -o _autotst -s >./initmake: cc: execute permission denied >:::: >cc -O _autotst.c -o _autotst -s >./initmake: cc: execute permission denied >:::: >gcc -O _autotst.c -o _autotst -s >./initmake: gcc: execute permission denied >:::: Seems like someone is trying to keep you from compiling programs :-). Ask your sysadmin about the C-compiler. -- Sincerely, srb@cuci.nl Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless). In this signature, the concluding three words `were left out'. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 20 10:10:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25576; Tue, 20 Jun 95 10:10:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14845; Tue, 20 Jun 95 10:04:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14839; Tue, 20 Jun 95 10:04:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sO6fU-00038EC; Tue, 20 Jun 95 10:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bm608@torfree.net (Walter Yen) Subject: What is the price of Pine and Pico? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 01:39:16 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi: How much does it cost to purchase a copy of Pine? How about Pico? If you know the price, please email me.. Thanks. walter -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | STANDARD DISCLAIMER: | | My comments and my opinions are my own, and they are not my employer's. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 20 11:01:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27933; Tue, 20 Jun 95 11:01:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02338; Tue, 20 Jun 95 10:55:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ub.d.umn.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02332; Tue, 20 Jun 95 10:55:15 -0700 Received: (from ppollock@localhost) by ub.d.umn.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA02582 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 20 Jun 1995 12:54:07 -0500 From: Paula Pollock Message-Id: <199506201754.MAA02582@ub.d.umn.edu> Subject: PC-Pine 3.91;pinerc on floppy To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 12:54:03 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1274 Status: O X-Status: I have am in the process of testing pc-pine for use in our campus computer labs. I would like to run the pine.exe from our novell server and have the pinerc, pine.sig, newsrc files and my address book on the student's floppy disk. I have set up an environment variable: PINERC=B:\PINERC and have the working directory set to B: also I am able to run pine. However, when it tries to update the pinerc file with my personal name and user id it gives the following error message: error saving configuration in file "B:": No such file or directory I am unable to get at my address book aliases too. I am, however, able to connect to our unix machine and read, delete, and mail messages. Any assistance with this would be appreciated. I have looked through the FAQ other info on the www.cac.washintgton.edu/pine location. [I have been successfully/happily using pine-pc on my own work pc for over a year now.] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Paula Pollock internet: ppollock@d.umn.edu Information Services 15 DADB v-mail: 218-726-6190 University of Minnesota, Duluth ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 20 12:01:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01269; Tue, 20 Jun 95 12:01:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03895; Tue, 20 Jun 95 11:55:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rs8.loc.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03889; Tue, 20 Jun 95 11:55:50 -0700 Received: by rs8.loc.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA25998; Tue, 20 Jun 1995 14:55:49 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 14:55:49 -0400 (EDT) From: R Russell Neuswanger To: pine-info Subject: margin call! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Where oh where can I find a way to set my default margins in enough closer together to desist from infuriating people (including me at times) who have to cope with mailers that can't handle wide text and keep it anywhere near legible? I've been through the help on message creation, and the config file, and can't see anything that looks even remotely like a margin-setter :-<< R. R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP), LC Edel sei der Mensch, Washington, DC 20540-4120 Hilfreich und gut! 202.707.8747 (shared line) Denn das allein neuswang@mail.loc.gov Unterscheidet ihn ... or (best) rrne@loc.gov -- Goethe No teratobibliotic entity avows *my* emanations. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 20 12:17:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01929; Tue, 20 Jun 95 12:17:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04287; Tue, 20 Jun 95 12:12:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04281; Tue, 20 Jun 95 12:12:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sO8do-00038HC; Tue, 20 Jun 95 12:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: csawyer@eciad.bc.ca (Cal Sawyer) Subject: Syncing UNIX/POP mail Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 11:15:34 -0800 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: This posting updates some of the things I asked in comp.mail.misc regarding syncing mail reads across UNIX and POP. I tried this out again last night and reads actually DO sync but deletes definitely don't. I see this as being a much more crucial issue. Right now, I have to go and manually delete/expunge messages in Pine that I have 'deleted' in Eudora. Am I missing the point here or what re local/remote mail reading? Can anyone out there describe how/whether they can sync deletes across these packages? Is there a POP mail reader that can update the mail from my home directory on the server? Thanks again... > > ------------------------------*** > Calvin Sawyer > Studio Assistant, Electronic Communication Design > Emily Carr Institute of Art and Design > 1399 Johnston Street > Vancouver, B.C. V6H 3R9 > Canada > -----------------------------*** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 20 12:36:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02868; Tue, 20 Jun 95 12:36:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18782; Tue, 20 Jun 95 12:31:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18776; Tue, 20 Jun 95 12:31:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sO8zU-00038HC; Tue, 20 Jun 95 12:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ntb@tcisswe.itis.se (Thommy Brolin) Subject: ELM vs. PINE Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 13:48:57 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: My organisation is currently evaluating ELM and PINE, to choose one of them as the main Mailer. My personal impression is that PINE seems to have more nice features and better alias/address handling, but that ELM has a better user interface (E.g. PINE seems to be mixing 'M', 'Q' and 'E' when exiting various screens). MIME seems to be working OK on both, at least as far as my limited tests show. What is the opinion among all you experienced users? What are the pros and cons of the two products? All input will is appreciated. This has been cross-posted (I hope...) to both 'comp.mail.elm' and 'comp.mail.pine'. Thommy Brolin ntb@itis.se "Never take life too seriously, you'll never come out of it alive, anyway" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 20 12:43:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03296; Tue, 20 Jun 95 12:43:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04795; Tue, 20 Jun 95 12:39:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04789; Tue, 20 Jun 95 12:39:37 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11707; Tue, 20 Jun 95 12:38:52 -0700 Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 12:38:37 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Andreas Fuchsberger Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Binary distribution of pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin/ |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 19 Jun 1995, Andreas Fuchsberger wrote: > I once picked up a compiled binary of pine and imapd for > HP-UX. Needless to say I forgot wherefrom. Now I need an imapd binary > of Linux and/or Solaris 2. Anybody got any idea where I can get them > from? > > Please post and email to , disregard above > From: address. > > Andreas > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL+cjyN/IU4uTDdHNAQE/owH7BSRQEj9jzkr4PlBPcmfWUHtWBWymAniU JVW6btnzb3ebWYaomGfc8c6snotExG0vlTxatglANwyB9Qyfjg3S4A== =e0ne -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 20 12:45:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03383; Tue, 20 Jun 95 12:45:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19084; Tue, 20 Jun 95 12:41:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19078; Tue, 20 Jun 95 12:41:14 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11789; Tue, 20 Jun 95 12:40:54 -0700 Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 12:40:46 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Ian Dunkin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine attachments and MIME labelling In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Pine 3.92 will support mime.types... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 20 Jun 1995, Ian Dunkin wrote: > > Looking at the source, Pine 3.91 decides how to `MIME label' a file one > attaches to a message being created by peeking at the first few bytes, > and checking these against a few built-in file types it knows about. > > Are there any plans for Pine to support the (arguably more flexible) > `mime.types' mechanism, whereby the labelling for given file types may > be configured externally by the user, in just the same way as the viewer > for received mail may be configured with `mailcap' ? > > I. > > -- > Ian Dunkin > -- > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL+ckQt/IU4uTDdHNAQGqjgIAgBOXoehpJ7zM73VMMY7I7smHM6RkgKOA 7R1E2iEq9eIdLJoi8HAu4TZlbuSDYIauEBp5y21QMf/Bj6gGPWc6Nw== =/Hrf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 20 12:45:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03423; Tue, 20 Jun 95 12:45:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04807; Tue, 20 Jun 95 12:40:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04801; Tue, 20 Jun 95 12:40:02 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11752; Tue, 20 Jun 95 12:39:55 -0700 Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 12:39:48 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Walter Yen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: What is the price of Pine and Pico? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Pine and Pico are free and available via anonymous ftp from ftp.cac.washington.edu. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 20 Jun 1995, Walter Yen wrote: > Hi: > > How much does it cost to purchase a copy of Pine? > > How about Pico? > > If you know the price, please email me.. Thanks. > > walter > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > | STANDARD DISCLAIMER: | > | My comments and my opinions are my own, and they are not my employer's. | > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL+ckB9/IU4uTDdHNAQGLBgH7B1d9YoOtHI7iOewf3mQdpJ+N/tTzWg/j RmthgIoIoqFn+LE9a6AFjE/7I9dVDr25j2z6O6gmRaBJIYlZ3mK6KA== =/zum -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 20 14:57:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09600; Tue, 20 Jun 95 14:57:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07643; Tue, 20 Jun 95 14:50:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07637; Tue, 20 Jun 95 14:50:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOB8R-00038EC; Tue, 20 Jun 95 14:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: khemani@er5.rutgers.edu (Maverick) Subject: how do i set up auto-reply? Date: 19 Jun 1995 21:38:22 -0400 Message-Id: <3s58qe$93u@er5.rutgers.edu> Status: O X-Status: hi, i've used berkley mailx, and have just now started using pine. i was wondering if there is a way to set up auto-reply for specific subject headings and also general auto-reply with pine or some other mail utility. any info would be greatly appreciated. info on what is needed and where i could find it would also be greatly appreciated. please reply via email yash khemani@eden.rutgers.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 20 15:05:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09938; Tue, 20 Jun 95 15:05:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22382; Tue, 20 Jun 95 15:00:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22376; Tue, 20 Jun 95 15:00:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOBGB-00038EC; Tue, 20 Jun 95 14:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Syncing UNIX/POP mail Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 13:36:13 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 20 Jun 1995, Cal Sawyer wrote: > This posting updates some of the things I asked in comp.mail.misc > regarding syncing mail reads across UNIX and POP. I tried this out again > last night and reads actually DO sync but deletes definitely don't. I see > this as being a much more crucial issue. Right now, I have to go and > manually delete/expunge messages in Pine that I have 'deleted' in Eudora. > Am I missing the point here or what re local/remote mail reading? Can > anyone out there describe how/whether they can sync deletes across these > packages? Is there a POP mail reader that can update the mail from my > home directory on the server? With POP, you are usually downloading mail from the server to the client and often then deleting mail from the server (depending upon whether or not you set the "keep mail on server" option). The point is that when you "delete" a message in Eudora, you are deleting the local copy, not the copy on the server. Basically, what you apparently want to use is IMAP, not POP. IMAP supports the "manage mail on the server" model that POP does not. Unfortunately, Eudora doesn't support IMAP yet. Consider PC-Pine or Simeon for Windows, or MailDrop for the Mac, as an alternative to Eudora. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 20 17:59:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17284; Tue, 20 Jun 95 17:59:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11538; Tue, 20 Jun 95 17:56:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11532; Tue, 20 Jun 95 17:56:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOE4u-00038EC; Tue, 20 Jun 95 17:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sspoon@hubcap.clemson.edu (Lex Spoon) Subject: Re: Syncing UNIX/POP mail Date: 20 Jun 1995 21:17:34 GMT Message-Id: <3s7dte$vek@hubcap.clemson.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: Mark Crispin (mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU) wrote: : On Tue, 20 Jun 1995, Cal Sawyer wrote: : > This posting updates some of the things I asked in comp.mail.misc : > regarding syncing mail reads across UNIX and POP. I tried this out again : > last night and reads actually DO sync but deletes definitely don't. I see : > this as being a much more crucial issue. Right now, I have to go and : > manually delete/expunge messages in Pine that I have 'deleted' in Eudora. : > Am I missing the point here or what re local/remote mail reading? Can : > anyone out there describe how/whether they can sync deletes across these : > packages? Is there a POP mail reader that can update the mail from my : > home directory on the server? : With POP, you are usually downloading mail from the server to the client : and often then deleting mail from the server (depending upon whether or : not you set the "keep mail on server" option). : The point is that when you "delete" a message in Eudora, you are deleting : the local copy, not the copy on the server. : Basically, what you apparently want to use is IMAP, not POP. IMAP : supports the "manage mail on the server" model that POP does not. : Unfortunately, Eudora doesn't support IMAP yet. Consider PC-Pine or : Simeon for Windows, or MailDrop for the Mac, as an alternative to Eudora. : -- Mark -- Bah. I won't argue that IMAP doesn't have a richer function set than POP, nor even that IMAP doesn't have a different underlying philosophy than POP, but the POP protocol _does_ support keeping a local mailbox synchronized with a mailbox on the server. (ie the TOP and/or UIDL commands) Different clients, however, take advantage of this support to different degrees.... Lex From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 20 22:34:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23179; Tue, 20 Jun 95 22:34:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00567; Tue, 20 Jun 95 22:21:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00561; Tue, 20 Jun 95 22:21:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOIDP-00038EC; Tue, 20 Jun 95 22:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dagon@coho.halcyon.com (Mark Rafn) Subject: Re: ELM vs. PINE Date: 20 Jun 1995 23:30:05 GMT Message-Id: <3s7llt$o1p@news1.halcyon.com> References: Status: O X-Status: Thommy Brolin wrote: >My organisation is currently evaluating ELM and PINE, to choose >one of them as the main Mailer. >MIME seems to be working OK on both, at least as far as my >limited tests show. Pine uses it's own MIME stuff, so it's kind of a pain to add types (i.e. auto-display attached GIFs, etc). ELM uses metamail, so you can do ANYTHING with it. Pine's a lot easier to attach files, but you can't specify type of attachment. >What is the opinion among all you experienced users? What are >the pros and cons of the two products? I like them both. It's easier to teach Pine to a new user, but ELM does more stuff. One major annoyance about pine is that it handles arrow keys on terminals other than VT/ANSI very badly. -- Mark Rafn dagon@halcyon.com http://www.halcyon.com/dagon/ Decadence is its own reward. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 20 22:41:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23418; Tue, 20 Jun 95 22:41:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14787; Tue, 20 Jun 95 22:36:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14781; Tue, 20 Jun 95 22:36:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOIQw-00038HC; Tue, 20 Jun 95 22:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: imapd startup Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 16:26:34 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Hi - This is a reply to both your comp.mail.pine posting and your email question. "no map file specified" is not one of our error messages, nor does it appear to be in the inetd that we use. I fear that this message came from somewhere in the bowels of HP-UX, and you need to persue it there. I would check "man inetd" to make sure there are no HP-UX specific details that you need to be aware of. If you are running something like Yellow Pages, NIS, or NetInfo, you may need to check to see what you need to do to register your updates to /etc/services there. Good luck, and please remember to post the solution once it's uncovered. On Tue, 20 Jun 1995, Jonathan Sinclair wrote: > we have recently installed pine on an hp 9.04 box. we have the imap > daemon ready torolland have it entered in /etc/services and /etc/inetd.conf, > but at boot time the message: > "no map file specified" > is printed when inetd is started up. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 05:47:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04932; Wed, 21 Jun 95 05:47:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19742; Wed, 21 Jun 95 05:27:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19736; Wed, 21 Jun 95 05:27:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOOq3-00038EC; Wed, 21 Jun 95 05:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lemmanp@ohsu.edu (Paul Lemman) Subject: MIME decoding utility for DOS??? Date: 20 Jun 1995 16:27:52 GMT Message-Id: <3s6su8$nl8@steele.ohsu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Is there such a thing a MIME decoding utiltiy for DOS, a MIMEdecode as it were? If there is, I'd sure appreciate a program name or URL for it. I suppose it's out of the question that there would be one for the Mac, also. As a last resort, is a decoding algorithm available so I could write my own? -- Paul Lemman Internet: lemmanp@ohsu.edu Network Analyst Phone: (503) 494-4537 Network Services US Mail: 840 SW Gaines Rd GH113 Oregon Health Sciences University Portland, OR 97201-2985 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 06:12:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05514; Wed, 21 Jun 95 06:12:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20029; Wed, 21 Jun 95 05:58:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20023; Wed, 21 Jun 95 05:57:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOPKu-00038QC; Wed, 21 Jun 95 05:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: etzold@nil.awi.fh-rosenheim.de (Christian Etzold) Subject: Pine handling mime-type x-uuencode Date: 21 Jun 1995 11:49:24 GMT Message-Id: <3s9105$kef@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Status: O X-Status: Hello, I have a problem and hope someone can help me. I've got a mail with an attachement Content-Type: image/gif Content-Description: xterm-iconbox.gif Content-Transfer-Encoding: x-uuencode How can i make PINE to handle this mail, that means 1. uudecode 2. call xv to show the gif MfG, Christian. >From etzold Wed Jun 21 11:28:47 1995 Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Sender: etzold@nil.awi.fh-rosenheim.de (Christian Etzold) From: etzold@fh-rosenheim.de (Christian Etzold) Path: inn.awi.fh-rosenheim.de!etzold Distribution: Followup-To: Organization: FH-Rosenheim Subject: How to handle x-uuencode Keywords: mime uuencode uudecode Hello, I have a problem and hope someone can help me. I've got a mail with an attachement Content-Type: image/gif Content-Description: xterm-iconbox.gif Content-Transfer-Encoding: x-uuencode How can i make PINE to handle this mail, that means 1. uudecode 2. call xv to show the gif MfG, Christian. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 06:12:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05522; Wed, 21 Jun 95 06:12:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06953; Wed, 21 Jun 95 05:52:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06947; Wed, 21 Jun 95 05:52:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOP9B-00038QC; Wed, 21 Jun 95 05:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: engp3079@leonis.nus.sg (Ong Patricia S. K.) Subject: return-receipt .. an qn Date: 21 Jun 1995 10:17:17 GMT Message-Id: <3s8rjd$5ta@nuscc.nus.sg> Status: O X-Status: Hi. I know about the return-receipt option. But I would like to know if there is a way of sending emails and receiving a receipt when that email has been read by the receipient, not just received only like in the case of return-receipt. Can anyone kindly let me know? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 07:03:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07005; Wed, 21 Jun 95 07:03:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07817; Wed, 21 Jun 95 06:53:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07805; Wed, 21 Jun 95 06:53:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOQ84-00038RC; Wed, 21 Jun 95 06:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Guy BRAND Subject: Reading root's mail Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 23:35:47 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi, I've tried to check root's mail unix PC-Pine and it doesn't work. In the INCOMING-FOLDERS I have given the {host}inbox specifier, but when I want to check the mail, I enter root and its password, but Pine says Login error. Of course the password is the right one.. I was just trying to avoid reading my (root) fourth mailbox using a telnet session. Why isn't that working ? Is there an inherent limitation within Pine ? GB ___ ___ Guy BRAND - Guy.Brand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr - ==== / |\/ |\ ******************************************* =---==== / |/ || et Fondation : gizmo@fondation.u-strasbg.fr =-----==== / /| /| || WWW : http://wwwchimie.u-strasbg.fr/GB.html ==---===== /_/ |__/ |_|| ======== \_\/\__\/\_\| "Souriez demain sera pire !" ==== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 07:03:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07011; Wed, 21 Jun 95 07:03:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07803; Wed, 21 Jun 95 06:53:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07797; Wed, 21 Jun 95 06:53:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOQ6b-00038EC; Wed, 21 Jun 95 06:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Guy BRAND Subject: Multiple mailboxes/single server Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 23:42:05 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi, This question is related to the previous I've just posted. I have three mailboxes to check on a single server, so I tried to add three different entries in the INCOMING FOLDERS field, using BOX1 {host}inbox, BOX2 {host}inbox, BOX3 {host}inbox, and it failed. Once Pine opens one connection to the server (host), with given login and password I cannot check a second mailbox with the second entrie... it uses the previous entered login and password. Is it possible to solve this problem with version 3.91 (the one I run) or do I have to wait for an other release? Of course, if I forward all mail from BOX2 to host2 and BOX3 to host3, then I'm able to check them... but this means that each mailbox I have to read has to be duplicated on a server so that Pine doesn't get confused. I can't see the difference between opening two connections to the same server (with different logins and passwords) and opening two connection to two different hosts. :-) Thanks for your replies GB ___ ___ Guy BRAND - Guy.Brand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr - ==== / |\/ |\ ******************************************* =---==== / |/ || et Fondation : gizmo@fondation.u-strasbg.fr =-----==== / /| /| || WWW : http://wwwchimie.u-strasbg.fr/GB.html ==---===== /_/ |__/ |_|| ======== \_\/\__\/\_\| "Souriez demain sera pire !" ==== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 07:09:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07325; Wed, 21 Jun 95 07:09:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20642; Wed, 21 Jun 95 06:53:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20636; Wed, 21 Jun 95 06:53:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOQ6j-00038QC; Wed, 21 Jun 95 06:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Guy BRAND Subject: Editing FROM field option Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 23:49:00 GMT Status: O X-Status: Again, Will such an option be available in the next release ? I was administrating a mail system and answering to queries using root wasn't a problem... but I'm now sharing the administrative tasks with several other people and we'd like to be able to send our mails to users as if they were coming from an "admin-mail" superuser :-) so we'd need to edit the From field before sending out the messages. Editing the From field can be dangerous... but not really worse than sending mail directly from a telnet to port 25. If I'm up to date, it seems that SMTP could soon implement an Authentication mechanism analogous to IMAP 4bis', so how about giving the possibility to edit the field ? GB with no more questions yet... ___ ___ Guy BRAND - Guy.Brand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr - ==== / |\/ |\ ******************************************* =---==== / |/ || et Fondation : gizmo@fondation.u-strasbg.fr =-----==== / /| /| || WWW : http://wwwchimie.u-strasbg.fr/GB.html ==---===== /_/ |__/ |_|| ======== \_\/\__\/\_\| "Souriez demain sera pire !" ==== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 07:25:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07818; Wed, 21 Jun 95 07:25:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08195; Wed, 21 Jun 95 07:18:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08189; Wed, 21 Jun 95 07:18:19 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA17837; Wed, 21 Jun 95 16:15:17 +0200 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 16:15:16 +0200 (METDST) From: "Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?=)" To: Christian Etzold Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine handling mime-type x-uuencode In-Reply-To: <3s9105$kef@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Acknowledge-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: On 21 Jun 1995, Christian Etzold wrote: > Content-Type: image/gif >=20 > How can i make PINE to handle this mail, that means > 2. call xv to show the gif Set imegage-viewer to xv in Setup/Config menu. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz Europe Home page: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-en.html Z=E1kladn=ED str=E1nka: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-cz.html Zakladni stranka: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-ce.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 07:32:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08101; Wed, 21 Jun 95 07:32:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21118; Wed, 21 Jun 95 07:25:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from reggae.ncren.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21112; Wed, 21 Jun 95 07:25:32 -0700 Received: from esv.bgsm.wfu.edu by reggae.ncren.net (5.65/tas-reggae/may94) id AA20688; Wed, 21 Jun 95 10:22:29 -0400 Received: by esv.bgsm.wfu.edu (4.0/4.7) id AA27956; Wed, 21 Jun 95 07:22:05 PDT Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 10:17:29 -0400 (EDT) From: jessica paige reed Subject: Installing pine on an sgi machine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: My name is Jessica Reed and I am a systems administrator at Bowman Gray Medical School in Winston-Salem, N.C. I am installing pine for our Silicon Graphics machine. It is currently running IRIX 5.3 in case that is pertinent. The problem that I came across is that when I followed the steps in the /doc/tech-notes.me text, I did not get very far. I typed "build clean" and then "build sgi." At this point the compiler worked for a few minutes and then instead of listing the sizes of the four binaries built, the computer displayed the message that it could not open bin/imapd, bin/pine, and bin/mtest. It did, however, give the size of bin/pico. Is this a common problem, and if so , does anyone know how to remedy it? Thank you for your time. Jessica Reed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 08:28:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10952; Wed, 21 Jun 95 08:28:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22162; Wed, 21 Jun 95 08:21:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22156; Wed, 21 Jun 95 08:21:25 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 21 Jun 1995 16:17:51 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id QAA00802; Wed, 21 Jun 1995 16:14:38 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 16:14:36 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Guy BRAND Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reading root's mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I queried this some time ago when I tried to do the same thing. Basically it is not possible to read root's mail using an IMAP connection. Specifically the IMAP server code forbids root from successfully authenticating, even if the correct password is used. This is apparently to side-step the security issues which tend to arise when any protocol supporting "root" access is created. The advice I received was to have root's mail delivered to an "ordinary" username and login to that in order to read it over an IMAP connection. However this would have been dificult in our environment. The solution I went for was to access the mail files straight from disk for root. Obviously this only works if the mailstore is mounted on the machine you are doing the reading from. Ours is, but we use IMAP for all other users to access their mail (and hence get the benefits of IMAP). Things were complicated slightly by my setting up IMAP access to the INBOX in the global "fixed" configuration file, thereby forcing all users to use IMAP to access their INBOX. This included root... My solution was to modify the Pine source code slightly so that if Pine was being used by "root" AND the "fixed" configuration file was being read THEN the "inbox-path" variable's value was ignored (as if it wasn't present in the "fixed" file). This meant that root defaulted to accessing the INBOX file directly from the NFS-mounted filestore, but that all other users were forced to use IMAP for theirs. This difficulty does not arise if you aren't forcing IMAP access to the INBOX in the "fixed" configuration file: simply modify the inbox-path variable in root's Pine settings to not use IMAP. If you ARE forcing IMAP access in the "fixed" configuration file you could give me a shout and I'll dig out my patch for the Pine 3.91 source code to let you "override" (ignore) the "inbox-path" variable value just for the root username. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 21 Jun 1995, Guy BRAND wrote: > Hi, > > I've tried to check root's mail unix PC-Pine and it doesn't work. In the > INCOMING-FOLDERS I have given the {host}inbox specifier, but when I want to > check the mail, I enter root and its password, but Pine says Login error. Of > course the password is the right one.. I was just trying to avoid reading my > (root) fourth mailbox using a telnet session. Why isn't that working ? Is > there an inherent limitation within Pine ? > > GB From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 08:53:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11942; Wed, 21 Jun 95 08:53:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22763; Wed, 21 Jun 95 08:48:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22757; Wed, 21 Jun 95 08:48:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sORxM-00038HC; Wed, 21 Jun 95 08:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ian.goh@jhu.edu (Ian Goh) Subject: How does PINE print-to-ansi? Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 10:54:38 -0500 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Hi Everyone, I have a UNIX user who loves how PINE can print out a message to his local Macintosh printer (using NCSA Telnet). He'd like to be able to do this from the "$" prompt with other text files. Does anyone know how PINE does the print-to-ansi? Is there a stand-alone utility that will do the trick (and where do I find it?!). Thanks! --- Ian --- -- Microcomputer Support Specialist E-mail: ian.goh@jhu.edu Homewood Academic Computing Phone : (410) 516-8096 Johns Hopkins University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 09:01:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12353; Wed, 21 Jun 95 09:01:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10223; Wed, 21 Jun 95 08:57:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10217; Wed, 21 Jun 95 08:57:47 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id LAA21753; Wed, 21 Jun 1995 11:57:44 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id LAA30998; Wed, 21 Jun 1995 11:57:42 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA03300; Wed, 21 Jun 95 11:56:19 EDT Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 11:56:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Ian Goh Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How does PINE print-to-ansi? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Pine sends the ANSI print-through command ([5i) to the terminal/emulator, sends the message, then sends the ANSI cancel-print-through command ([4i). I believe this command is compatible with most DEC vtxxx terminals. On Wed, 21 Jun 1995, Ian Goh wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I have a UNIX user who loves how PINE can print out a message to his > local Macintosh printer (using NCSA Telnet). He'd like to be able to > do this from the "$" prompt with other text files. Does anyone know > how PINE does the print-to-ansi? Is there a stand-alone utility that > will do the trick (and where do I find it?!). > > Thanks! > > --- Ian --- > -- > Microcomputer Support Specialist E-mail: ian.goh@jhu.edu > Homewood Academic Computing Phone : (410) 516-8096 > Johns Hopkins University > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 09:35:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14646; Wed, 21 Jun 95 09:35:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23867; Wed, 21 Jun 95 09:28:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from thymaster.interaccess.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23861; Wed, 21 Jun 95 09:28:48 -0700 Received: from nwchi-d157.net.interaccess.com (d69.net.interaccess.com [199.79.208.69]) by thymaster.interaccess.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id LAA14055; Wed, 21 Jun 1995 11:25:01 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 11:21:13 -0700 (CDT) From: Ben Parker To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: customized-hdrs does not work ? X-Sender: bparker@pop.interaccess.com In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Below is the Fcc header from my Unix Pine version. There is no Reply-To: from fcc BSD Unix pine: >From bparker@interaccess.com Mon Jun 19 18:48:30 1995 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 18:46:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Ben Parker To: bparker@interaccess.com cc: bparker@aol.com Subject: reply-to test #3 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is a test of mail from BSD unix pine to test the 'Reply-To" function. --------------- This is a message sent via Free Agent using same smtp.interaccess.com mail server. Note there IS a reply-to (sent to aol Rc'd OK) Forwarded message: From: bparker@interaccess.com (Ben Parker) Reply-to: bparker@interaccess.com To: bparker@interaccess.com CC: bparker@aol.com Date: 95-06-19 19:35:07 EDT This is short test message to test the present function of the Reply-To from Free Agent... ----------- Any further ideas? DLM seems to think the problem is with smtp.interaccess.com, but didn't say exactly what. If that's true, why does Free Agent manage to send a reply-to header while Pine doesn't. And the reply-to in Pine still doesn't show up in the (internal to Pine) File Copy from either PC-Pine or Unix Pine. Hmmmm... Any further help appreciated! ================== Ben Parker (IL) bparker@interaccess.com 71450.2735@compuserve.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 09:40:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14897; Wed, 21 Jun 95 09:40:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23920; Wed, 21 Jun 95 09:30:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23910; Wed, 21 Jun 95 09:30:48 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 21 Jun 1995 17:26:03 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id RAA06096; Wed, 21 Jun 1995 17:30:36 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 17:30:32 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Ian Goh Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How does PINE print-to-ansi? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: There is a standard pair of VT100 escape sequences that instruct the terminal (emulator) to go into "bypass to printer" mode and back. If you select the "attached to ansi" option in Pine it sends these at the start and end of the message text. If you look in the contrib/utils directory within the Pine distribution you will find a little program written in C that can be used as a filter to achieve the same effect. ie, ansiprt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 21 Jun 1995, Ian Goh wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I have a UNIX user who loves how PINE can print out a message to his > local Macintosh printer (using NCSA Telnet). He'd like to be able to > do this from the "$" prompt with other text files. Does anyone know > how PINE does the print-to-ansi? Is there a stand-alone utility that > will do the trick (and where do I find it?!). > > Thanks! > > --- Ian --- > -- > Microcomputer Support Specialist E-mail: ian.goh@jhu.edu > Homewood Academic Computing Phone : (410) 516-8096 > Johns Hopkins University > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 10:40:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17472; Wed, 21 Jun 95 10:40:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12764; Wed, 21 Jun 95 10:31:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12758; Wed, 21 Jun 95 10:31:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOTZ3-00038EC; Wed, 21 Jun 95 10:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: michaelh@crl.com (Michael L. Hoffman) Subject: Pine Binaries for VMS/AXP Date: 20 Jun 1995 10:44:11 -0700 Message-Id: <3s71db$ius@crl.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: Does anyone know where I might find a pre-compiled version of Pine for OpenVMS 6.1 AXP? I don't have a C-compiler on my system and many our our users want to switch from VMS Mail to Pine. Mike Hoffman | mikeh@206.14.7.103 | michaelh@crl.com | DRANET::SFPL::MIKEH Library Automation System and Network Manager San Francisco Public Library (415)557-4374 voice (415)557-4205 fax From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 11:23:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19582; Wed, 21 Jun 95 11:23:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26280; Wed, 21 Jun 95 11:18:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26274; Wed, 21 Jun 95 11:18:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOUDd-00038HC; Wed, 21 Jun 95 11:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Kevin M. Sheehan" Subject: Global Addressbooks Date: 20 Jun 1995 17:46:31 GMT Message-Id: <3s71hn$493@taurus.fccc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I have searched the documentation, and can't seem to find any information on adding new addresses to the global addressbook once it is defined. I can create and edit a new file, but can not add entries to an old one. Any help?? Thanks. -- +-------------------------------------------------+ | Kevin M. Sheehan | Fox Chase Cancer Center | | K_Sheehan@fccc.edu | 7701 Burholme Avenue | | (215) 728-3118 | Philadelphia, PA 19111 | +-------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 11:26:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19664; Wed, 21 Jun 95 11:26:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26346; Wed, 21 Jun 95 11:22:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26340; Wed, 21 Jun 95 11:22:25 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05660; Wed, 21 Jun 95 11:22:23 -0700 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 11:22:15 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Paul Lemman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: MIME decoding utility for DOS??? In-Reply-To: <3s6su8$nl8@steele.ohsu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- DOS: ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/mpack/mpack15d.zip Mac: ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/mpack/mpack-1.5-mac.hqx etc. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 20 Jun 1995, Paul Lemman wrote: > Is there such a thing a MIME decoding utiltiy for DOS, a MIMEdecode as it were? > If there is, I'd sure appreciate a program name or URL for it. I suppose it's > out of the question that there would be one for the Mac, also. > > As a last resort, is a decoding algorithm available so I could write my own? > -- > Paul Lemman Internet: lemmanp@ohsu.edu > Network Analyst Phone: (503) 494-4537 > Network Services US Mail: 840 SW Gaines Rd GH113 > Oregon Health Sciences University Portland, OR 97201-2985 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL+hjXN/IU4uTDdHNAQF1nQIAn+CVeR78ZLCRk24mpFnsX8TAwv6btzqS c6BkedGkPMWNfUgLwhR8Mr3ENlw9E1+jt9MKoYkJ8ksuVsIThQPeHg== =YyX9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 11:30:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19887; Wed, 21 Jun 95 11:30:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26433; Wed, 21 Jun 95 11:26:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26427; Wed, 21 Jun 95 11:26:55 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05825; Wed, 21 Jun 95 11:26:51 -0700 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 11:26:45 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Kevin M. Sheehan" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Global Addressbooks In-Reply-To: <3s71hn$493@taurus.fccc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- If you are doing the updates manually, the manager needs to specify it as a personal addressbook. You might also want to do the updates on a private copy, then copy the addressbook and addressbook.lu files to the real global addressbook periodically... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 20 Jun 1995, Kevin M. Sheehan wrote: > I have searched the documentation, and can't seem to find any information on > adding new addresses to the global addressbook once it is defined. I can create > and edit a new file, but can not add entries to an old one. Any help?? > > Thanks. > > -- > +-------------------------------------------------+ > | Kevin M. Sheehan | Fox Chase Cancer Center | > | K_Sheehan@fccc.edu | 7701 Burholme Avenue | > | (215) 728-3118 | Philadelphia, PA 19111 | > +-------------------------------------------------+ > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL+hkaN/IU4uTDdHNAQHpygIAubIOaIDcUTzh3i82qd3QO0SlnkPxcNz8 9e3XYqM/2tebiWL5jda4FPUWf19M0emAAB2UmynZHS7h496lzrRw3A== =KyFx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 11:52:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21015; Wed, 21 Jun 95 11:52:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14684; Wed, 21 Jun 95 11:43:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14678; Wed, 21 Jun 95 11:43:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOUbq-00038EC; Wed, 21 Jun 95 11:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Gardiner Myers Subject: Re: MIME decoding utility for DOS??? Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 14:15:43 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3s6su8$nl8@steele.ohsu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3s6su8$nl8@steele.ohsu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Mpack and munpack are utilities for encoding and decoding (respectively) binary files in MIME (Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions) format mail messages. For compatibility with older forms of transferring binary files, the munpack program can also decode messages in split-uuencoded format. The Macintosh version can also decode messages in split-BinHex format. In short, munpack is the MIME equivalent of uudecode/binhex. Versions are included for unix, pc, os2, mac, amiga and archimedes systems. The canonical FTP site for this software is ftp.andrew.cmu.edu:pub/mpack/ All official distributions of mpack 1.5 are PGP signed by John Gardiner Myers From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 12:12:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21981; Wed, 21 Jun 95 12:12:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27466; Wed, 21 Jun 95 12:08:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27460; Wed, 21 Jun 95 12:08:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOV7m-00038HC; Wed, 21 Jun 95 12:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Petter Blomberg Subject: Re: return-receipt .. an qn Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 15:39:21 +0200 Message-Id: References: <3s8rjd$5ta@nuscc.nus.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3s8rjd$5ta@nuscc.nus.sg> Status: O X-Status: On 21 Jun 1995, Ong Patricia S. K. wrote: > Hi. I know about the return-receipt option. What's that? /Petter Blomberg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 13:19:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25674; Wed, 21 Jun 95 13:19:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16798; Wed, 21 Jun 95 13:14:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16792; Wed, 21 Jun 95 13:13:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOW99-00038EC; Wed, 21 Jun 95 13:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mfstfs@nmsu.edu (Thorsten Sandgren) Subject: Extended char set Date: 21 Jun 1995 18:04:59 GMT Message-Id: <3s9n0b$f2g@bubba.NMSU.Edu> Status: O X-Status: I receive mail from Europe frequently. These pieces of mail usually contains special characters, that Pine does not display properly. Is there a feature in Pine that allows these extended characters to be displayed on screen? I.e., . .. .. a a o are some of the characters that I would like to be able to view. Thanks, Thorsten -------------------------------------------------------------- Thorsten Sandgren Bachelor of Science New Mexico State University e-mail: mfstfs@nmsu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 14:32:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28872; Wed, 21 Jun 95 14:32:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18531; Wed, 21 Jun 95 14:24:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Altitude.CAM.ORG by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18525; Wed, 21 Jun 95 14:24:34 -0700 Received: from Samuel.ChamplainCollege.QC.CA by Altitude.CAM.ORG with UUCP id QAA29211 (8.6.9/8.6.9); Wed, 21 Jun 1995 16:38:52 -0400 Received: by Samuel.ChamplainCollege.QC.CA id AA22885 (5.67a8/IDA-1.4.4 for cac.washington.edu!pine-info); Wed, 21 Jun 1995 16:38:34 -0400 From: lafranc@ChamplainCollege.QC.CA (Guillaume Lafrance) To: sugarman@mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Return receipt Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 18:22:16 -0400 Organization: Champlain Regional College, St-Lambert, Quebec, Canada Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Lines: 19 Status: O X-Status: > > Is there a way I can ask for a return receipt when I send an email?? > I use the following, either at the beginning or end of the message: > "Please let me know that you received this message." :) But is there a way that I can ask Pine to add a special header to the message, so when the person I wrote to reads the message, a note is sent to me? Guillaume __ | | | Guillaume Lafrance aka Starkiller | --==#==-- lafranc@champlaincollege.qc.ca --==#==-- | http://samuel.champlaincollege.qc.ca/~lafranc/homep.html | | | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 15:16:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01197; Wed, 21 Jun 95 15:16:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01779; Wed, 21 Jun 95 15:11:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01773; Wed, 21 Jun 95 15:11:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOXwc-00038EC; Wed, 21 Jun 95 15:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Virtual Joe Subject: Cancel news posting with pine? Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 09:30:31 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to cancel my own news posts with pine? Any clues as to how one might go about this? Thanks, O great Pine Gods!!...laters... *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* *: Joe Ducharme jduche@creighton.edu :* *: Creighton University Omaha, NE USA 68178 :* *: << Joe's Roadside Attraction >> :* *: << http://www.creighton.edu/~jduche/ >> :* *: "Time flies like an arrow, Fruit flies like a banana." :* *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 15:17:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01252; Wed, 21 Jun 95 15:17:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19877; Wed, 21 Jun 95 15:14:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19871; Wed, 21 Jun 95 15:14:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOY0f-00038EC; Wed, 21 Jun 95 15:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: steverod@chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Steve Rodrigues) Subject: Pine behavior on SIGHUP? Date: 21 Jun 1995 22:06:52 GMT Message-Id: <3sa55s$huf@agate.berkeley.edu> Status: O X-Status: I use Pine over a dialup line (I have a shell account). The problem is that my roommate's new girlfriend (who isn't fully trained yet :) will pick up the phone, or my provider will simply hang up on me, usually while composing my magnum opus. I use the internal pico as my editor and don't really want to change. What, if anything, can I do to recover these lost missives? Thanks, Steve -- Steve Rodrigues | Lost, yesterday, somewhere between sunrise and Expatriate Texan | sunset, two golden hours, each set with sixty UC Berkeley, Dept. of EECS | diamond minutes. No reward is offered, for they steverod@cs.berkeley.edu | are gone forever. -- Horace Mann From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 16:24:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04104; Wed, 21 Jun 95 16:24:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03223; Wed, 21 Jun 95 16:19:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03217; Wed, 21 Jun 95 16:19:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOYyh-00038EC; Wed, 21 Jun 95 16:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jonathan Sinclair Subject: imapd startup Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 16:18:11 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: we have recently installed pine on an hp 9.04 box. we have the imap daemon ready torolland have it entered in /etc/services and /etc/inetd.conf, but at boot time the message: "no map file specified" is printed when inetd is started up. any clues? ______________________________________________________ Jonathan A. Sinclair CSE Informix Software, Inc. Phone: (908) 302-4544 Somerset, NJ jonathan@informix.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 16:25:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04296; Wed, 21 Jun 95 16:25:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21361; Wed, 21 Jun 95 16:19:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21355; Wed, 21 Jun 95 16:19:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOZ1U-00038HC; Wed, 21 Jun 95 16:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jonathan Sinclair Subject: return receipt Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 16:21:56 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: is there a function within pine 3.91 that you can request a return receipt? we have pc users who are comfy with MS-Mail and don't want to give up any features. thanks in advance. ______________________________________________________ Jonathan A. Sinclair CSE Informix Software, Inc. Phone: (908) 302-4544 Somerset, NJ jonathan@informix.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 16:38:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04829; Wed, 21 Jun 95 16:38:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03443; Wed, 21 Jun 95 16:29:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03437; Wed, 21 Jun 95 16:29:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOZ8z-00038EC; Wed, 21 Jun 95 16:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chris Newman Subject: Re: Syncing UNIX/POP mail Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 16:57:32 -0400 Message-Id: <803681852.268.0@nifty.andrew.cmu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: csawyer@eciad.bc.ca (Cal Sawyer) writes: > This posting updates some of the things I asked in comp.mail.misc > regarding syncing mail reads across UNIX and POP. I tried this out again > last night and reads actually DO sync but deletes definitely don't. I see > this as being a much more crucial issue. Right now, I have to go and > manually delete/expunge messages in Pine that I have 'deleted' in Eudora. > Am I missing the point here or what re local/remote mail reading? Can > anyone out there describe how/whether they can sync deletes across these > packages? Is there a POP mail reader that can update the mail from my > home directory on the server? The POP3 protocol has no provision for syncing deletes -- it just transfers mail from the server to the client. IMAP4 can sync deletes between different clients -- even if they're simultaneously connected to the same mailstore. Check out: http://andrew2.andrew.cmu.edu/cyrus/email/standards-IMAP.html for more info about IMAP. ----- Chris Newman , http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~cn0h/ Protest the Communications Decency Act with George Carlin's 7 dirty words in your sig: Shit, Piss, Fuck, Cunt, Cocksucker, Motherfucker, Tits From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 16:51:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05325; Wed, 21 Jun 95 16:51:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03875; Wed, 21 Jun 95 16:47:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03869; Wed, 21 Jun 95 16:47:10 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id TAA15779; Wed, 21 Jun 1995 19:44:16 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id TAA32455; Wed, 21 Jun 1995 19:44:08 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA08650; Wed, 21 Jun 95 19:42:43 EDT Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 19:42:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Guillaume Lafrance Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Return receipt In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: On Thu, 15 Jun 1995, Guillaume Lafrance wrote: > > > Is there a way I can ask for a return receipt when I send an email?? > > I use the following, either at the beginning or end of the message: > > > "Please let me know that you received this message." > > :) > > But is there a way that I can ask Pine to add a special header to the message, > so when the person I wrote to reads the message, a note is sent to me? > I didn't mean to be flippant, but you must have missed the lenghty thread on return receipts. There is a feature of sendmail or mail that if you include Receipt-to (*I think*) in your header, the receiving system may send you a message that the system received it. Some programs, e.g., cc:mail, have a receipt feature. There is a lot of controversy over whether it is a good idea. We used registered receipts for years on a company project, and it was great, but, imagine that you send a message to a distribution list of 100 people - do you want 100 receipts? I think the best approach is to ask you recipient to send you and acknowledgement. Regards Don Sugarman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 18:01:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08129; Wed, 21 Jun 95 18:01:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23565; Wed, 21 Jun 95 17:54:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23559; Wed, 21 Jun 95 17:54:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOaT5-00038EC; Wed, 21 Jun 95 17:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pjh@tigger.jvnc.net (Prof. Peter J. Holsberg) Subject: Can't send mail??? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 22:39:06 GMT I cannot send mail (UnixWare 2.01) any more! I don't use sendmail so I set the smtp server to the host I'm using and on which I just recompiled pine, pico, imapd, ipop2d and ipop3d. .pine-debug* says: Got SMTP server tecoma open done. Mail not sent. Transfer protocol error: 451 Requested action aborted: local errocall_mailer ERROR: Mail not sent. Transfer protocol error: 451 Requested action aborted: local erro Send and Post failed, continuing ------------------------- any ideas??? Thanks, Pete From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 18:05:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08214; Wed, 21 Jun 95 18:05:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05442; Wed, 21 Jun 95 18:02:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05436; Wed, 21 Jun 95 18:02:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOaZM-00038HC; Wed, 21 Jun 95 17:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: swald@cde2s.ssc.wisc.edu (Sandra Wald) Subject: pc pine Date: 20 Jun 1995 21:02:18 GMT Message-Id: <3s7d0q$m78@news.doit.wisc.edu> I have an user who asked if someone had a pc version of pine, if that user could then download their mail from a vms system running pine. I believe there is a pc version of pine. Does the pc version of Pine run under windows? Any help is appreciated. sincerely, Sandra -- Sandra J. Wald swald@ssc.wisc.edu (608) 265-4922 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 21 22:05:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12919; Wed, 21 Jun 95 22:05:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27068; Wed, 21 Jun 95 22:02:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27062; Wed, 21 Jun 95 22:02:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOeLN-00038EC; Wed, 21 Jun 95 21:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: return-receipt .. an qn Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 19:34:09 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3s8rjd$5ta@nuscc.nus.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3s8rjd$5ta@nuscc.nus.sg> On 21 Jun 1995, Ong Patricia S. K. wrote: > Hi. I know about the return-receipt option. But I would like to know if > there is a way of sending emails and receiving a receipt when that email > has been read by the receipient, not just received only like in the case > of return-receipt. Can anyone kindly let me know? Thanks. In general over the Internet, there is probably no way to do what you wnat to do. So far as I know, there is no Internet standard, and there is no way you as a remote sender can coerce a distant computer into doing what you want if it has not already been programmed to do so. Sorry. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 00:17:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15818; Thu, 22 Jun 95 00:17:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28913; Thu, 22 Jun 95 00:12:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28901; Thu, 22 Jun 95 00:12:24 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA20057; Thu, 22 Jun 95 09:10:28 +0200 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 09:10:27 +0200 (METDST) From: "Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?=)" To: Jonathan Sinclair Cc: The Pine Discussion List Subject: Re: return receipt In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Acknowledge-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Tue, 20 Jun 1995, Jonathan Sinclair wrote: > is there a function within pine 3.91 that you can request a return > receipt? we have pc users who are comfy with MS-Mail and don't want=20 > to give up any features. Usualy the privite mail systems add some private header to indicate the other side (if it understand it) they ask for a return or reading receipt. `Return-Receipt-To: ' is commonly used for delivery receipts (as it works on many Unix systems, too), reading receipts alters (for instance Pegasus Mail uses `X-Confirm-Delivery-To:
'). You can add those to customised headers (empty) and learn your users how to add their address id they like to get the receipt. I would like to know what headers are used to indicate these types of receipts by MS Mail (and other mailer different from Pegasus Mail/First Mail). Could you be so glad and send me (personally) their names (or a testing mail with these receipt requests set on)? Thanks. V. S. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz Europe Home page: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-en.html Z=E1kladn=ED str=E1nka: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-cz.html Zakladni stranka: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-ce.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 00:52:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16897; Thu, 22 Jun 95 00:52:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10032; Thu, 22 Jun 95 00:40:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10026; Thu, 22 Jun 95 00:40:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOgrP-00038EC; Thu, 22 Jun 95 00:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sspoon@hubcap.clemson.edu (Lex Spoon) Subject: Re: Syncing UNIX/POP mail Date: 22 Jun 1995 05:05:30 GMT Message-Id: <3satmq$dkt@hubcap.clemson.edu> References: <3s7dte$vek@hubcap.clemson.edu> <3s8d91$83m@scsing.switch.ch> Urs Eppenberger (eppen@switch.ch) wrote: : Lex Spoon (sspoon@hubcap.clemson.edu) wrote: : : ... but the POP protocol _does_ support keeping a local mailbox : : synchronized with a mailbox on the server. (ie the TOP and/or : : UIDL commands) : : Different clients, however, take advantage of this support to : : different degrees.... : Lex, could you enlighten us about which clients do what and about which : servers support TOP/UIDL? I'm not familiar with all that many clients and servers, but here's what I know. Most servers support the TOP command -- it's been in the protocol as an optional command since (I believe) the first RFC on POP3. Servers that I _know_ to support it are OSF/1, 4.3BSD, and whatever the Linux Slackware distribution comes with. I don't think UIDL is very common; I did see it in the source code for one pop server, but sorry I don't remember which one. As far as clients, I'm even less sure. I think Eudora uses TOP and looks at the non-standard (but common on UNIX) "Status:" field. Any mailer which has a "do not delete mail on server" must be using either UIDL or TOP (unless of course the programmer is clever than me! :) ) In particular, I don't know of any clients (again, my experience is limited though!) that support the "sync deletes" idea that started this thread. I would think it wouldn't be too hard to implement, though, as long as the server at least supports TOP. Has anyone else seen such a client? Lex From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 01:15:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17672; Thu, 22 Jun 95 01:15:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29756; Thu, 22 Jun 95 01:05:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from actcom.co.il by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29750; Thu, 22 Jun 95 01:05:30 -0700 Received: from galtronics.UUCP by actcom.co.il with UUCPgaltronics (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id KAA09819 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 22 Jun 1995 10:44:56 +0300 (rfc931-sender: uucp@localhost) Received: by aviion.galtronics.co.il (5.4R2.10/ACTCOM-GALTRONICS-S-1.0) id AA17215; Thu, 22 Jun 1995 10:30:05 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 10:30:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Aladdin Khamis To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine.conf & pine.info In-Reply-To: <3s9105$kef@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anybody know about placing a pine.conf file in the /usr/local/lib directory because in my .pine-debug? files I get: Debug output of the Pine program (at debug level 2). Version 3.91 Thu Jun 22 10:09:22 1995 reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf" Open failed: No such file or directory reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed" Open failed: No such file or directory and how about pine.conf.fixed, what is that all about? Sincerely, Aladdin Khamis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 01:39:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18368; Thu, 22 Jun 95 01:39:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00348; Thu, 22 Jun 95 01:33:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00342; Thu, 22 Jun 95 01:33:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOheX-00038RC; Thu, 22 Jun 95 01:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: david@umbc.edu (Dave Brookshire) Subject: printing index listing... Date: 21 Jun 1995 19:32:41 -0400 Message-Id: <3saa6p$173@strand.irc.umbc.edu> I have about 1K e-mail messages in my inbox. Is there any way to print the index listing, rather than individual e-mail messages? Also, is there a way to mark multiple messages, and have them printed separately, rather than all together as one? Dave --david@umbc.edu **-------------------------------------------------------------------** David Brookshire UMBC Imaging Research Center voice (410)455-3373 University of Maryland Baltimore County fax (410)455-1035 **-------------------------------------------------------------------** Dave's Homepage **-------------------------------------------------------------------** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 01:40:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18403; Thu, 22 Jun 95 01:40:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10793; Thu, 22 Jun 95 01:36:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10787; Thu, 22 Jun 95 01:36:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOhit-00038HC; Thu, 22 Jun 95 01:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Syncing UNIX/POP mail Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 23:10:29 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3s7dte$vek@hubcap.clemson.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3s7dte$vek@hubcap.clemson.edu> On 20 Jun 1995, Lex Spoon wrote: > the POP protocol _does_ support keeping a local mailbox > synchronized with a mailbox on the server. (ie the TOP and/or > UIDL commands) UIDL is new. Most POP client and server implementations do not support it. I wrote one of the few POP servers that has it. It is really stretching it to claim that TOP supports keeping a local mailbox synchronized with a mailbox on the server. All TOP does is display the first n lines of the mailbox. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 01:55:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18678; Thu, 22 Jun 95 01:55:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00574; Thu, 22 Jun 95 01:51:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00568; Thu, 22 Jun 95 01:51:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOhxW-00038HC; Thu, 22 Jun 95 01:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: johnn@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Building PINE 3.91 on Solaris 2.4? Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 07:33:35 GMT In article , jason@IS.NET says... >I got the source for PINE 3.91 from ftp.cac.washington.edu and was >closest. The documentation said to look in /doc/pine-ports for >information on other ports, but that file was no where to be found. I Yes, I couldn't find this file either. >Am I missing something here? What do I need to compile PINE on >Solaris 2.4? Ditto. Using Solaris x86 2.4, gcc 2.6.3, and a path that looks like: PATH=.:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/ccs/bin:/usr/openwin/bin:/b in:/usb lots of stuff like: (doing a build sol) /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/i486-sun-solaris2/2.6.3/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/i486-sun-solaris2/2.6.3/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' ... /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/i486-sun-solaris2/2.6.3/include/unistd.h:225: conflicting types for `rename' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/i486-sun-solaris2/2.6.3/include/stdio.h:153: previous declaration of `rename' Any thoughts? Thanks. -john From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 02:00:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18942; Thu, 22 Jun 95 02:00:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10981; Thu, 22 Jun 95 01:57:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10975; Thu, 22 Jun 95 01:57:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOi1q-00038EC; Thu, 22 Jun 95 01:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mddittme@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mark David Dittmer) Subject: Flashing text Date: 22 Jun 1995 01:35:09 -0600 Message-Id: <3sb6fd$vvi@acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca> I recently saw an e-mail message with part of the .sig flashing. How could I create flashing text in part of my .sig? Sorry if this has been discussed already, but I'd really like to know how I can do this! -Mark -- ----------------------------------- /' '\-/' /' -----------------, mddittme@acs.ucalgary.ca ( ## # ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,/---, | mdittmer@freenet.calgary.ab.ca | ## # '''''''''''''')/"" | ___________________________________ \_____/-\_/' __________________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 02:05:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19025; Thu, 22 Jun 95 02:05:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00644; Thu, 22 Jun 95 01:57:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00638; Thu, 22 Jun 95 01:57:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOi2a-00038HC; Thu, 22 Jun 95 01:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Reading root's mail Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 23:18:35 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 21 Jun 1995, Guy BRAND wrote: > I've tried to check root's mail unix PC-Pine and it doesn't work. In the > INCOMING-FOLDERS I have given the {host}inbox specifier, but when I want to > check the mail, I enter root and its password, but Pine says Login error. Of > course the password is the right one.. I was just trying to avoid reading my > (root) fourth mailbox using a telnet session. Why isn't that working ? Is > there an inherent limitation within Pine ? It's not Pine, it's in IMAP server that's doing you in. You're not allowed to log in as root (or any other uid 0 user) over IMAP. "It's not a bug, it's a feature." -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 02:14:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19322; Thu, 22 Jun 95 02:14:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11066; Thu, 22 Jun 95 02:03:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11058; Thu, 22 Jun 95 02:03:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOi4Y-00038QC; Thu, 22 Jun 95 01:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Can't send mail??? Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 23:23:01 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: This error message looks like it came from your SMTP server. I'd suggest taking a loook at things there. In general, if you see a 3-digit number in an error message, it's a good bet that it came from either an SMTP or an NNTP server instead of from the bowels of Pine. On Wed, 21 Jun 1995, Prof. Peter J. Holsberg wrote: > I cannot send mail (UnixWare 2.01) any more! I don't use sendmail so I > set the smtp server to the host I'm using and on which I just > recompiled pine, pico, imapd, ipop2d and ipop3d. > > .pine-debug* says: > Got SMTP server tecoma open > done. > > Mail not sent. Transfer protocol error: 451 Requested action aborted: > local errocall_mailer ERROR: Mail not sent. Transfer protocol error: > 451 Requested action aborted: local erro > > Send and Post failed, continuing > > ------------------------- > any ideas??? > > Thanks, > Pete > > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 03:25:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20987; Thu, 22 Jun 95 03:25:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01708; Thu, 22 Jun 95 03:18:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01702; Thu, 22 Jun 95 03:18:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOjFn-00038HC; Thu, 22 Jun 95 03:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marc Andersen SFE Subject: Re: Building PINE 3.91 on Solaris 2.4? Date: 22 Jun 1995 09:51:52 GMT Message-Id: <3sbefo$le@news.uni-c.dk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I managed to compile Pine on Solaris 2.4 using gcc 2.6.3. The compilation was succesfull when I included a -DANSI in the compiler options in the makefile. I think the reason for the problem is the following: In headers.h the following appears #ifndef ANSI #define const /* For mail.h */ #endif which is activated if the preprocessor symbol ANSI is not #defined (indicating a non-ansi compiler). With #define const the statement extern int memcmp(const void *, const void *, size_t); is proccessed by the pre-processor to extern int memcmp(void *, void *, size_t); and since the definition of memcmp both appears in memory.h and strings.h, the placement of #define const may well explain the problem. I have not tracked the exact reason down - using -DANSI worked for me (well only after help of a colleague, who showed me the use of gcc -E to see the output of the preprocessor, and thus find the difference in the definition of memcmp described above. I learned something about preprocessing :-). Marc Andersen Department of Biostatistics, University of Copenhagen, Denmark e-mail ma@kubism.ku.dk, phone +45 35 32 79 04, fax +45 35 32 79 07 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 03:38:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21303; Thu, 22 Jun 95 03:38:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11975; Thu, 22 Jun 95 03:33:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11969; Thu, 22 Jun 95 03:33:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOjWO-00038EC; Thu, 22 Jun 95 03:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: job@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_DOMAIN_FILE (Jockel Both) Subject: automatic bouncing with pine? Date: 22 Jun 1995 09:50:15 GMT Message-Id: <3sbecn$dcv@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Hello, is there anybody who knows about the possibility of automatic mail bouncing, may be triggered by a special dot-file. an example should explain what I mean: if someone is on vacation and leaves his machine running, the mailer should be able to send the mails back to the sender with a short reply why the mail was sent back. I know that this is possible on sgi's, but I don't know how to enable this behaviour. So while I'm writing, I am not very shure, if this question belongs realy into the pine group. But perhaps somebody of you know an answer. thanks btw: I'm working on a Linux box... -- Jockel Both email: Jockel.Both@linpc9.sari.fh-wuerzburg.de From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 05:03:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23811; Thu, 22 Jun 95 05:03:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03086; Thu, 22 Jun 95 04:51:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03080; Thu, 22 Jun 95 04:51:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOkj5-00038HC; Thu, 22 Jun 95 04:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: xwu@engc.bu.edu (Xiaoyi Wu) Subject: posting news through pine failed Date: 22 Jun 1995 01:37:38 GMT Message-Id: <3sahh3$i39@news.bu.edu> I have tried to post news in pine but always get an error message. Is there somehting I missed in the configuration? Also, how can i catch up a newsgroup in pine? Thanks. Xiaoyi From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 05:20:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24121; Thu, 22 Jun 95 05:20:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13130; Thu, 22 Jun 95 05:12:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13124; Thu, 22 Jun 95 05:12:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOl5I-00038EC; Thu, 22 Jun 95 05:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eppen@switch.ch (Urs Eppenberger) Subject: Re: Syncing UNIX/POP mail Date: 21 Jun 1995 06:12:49 GMT Message-Id: <3s8d91$83m@scsing.switch.ch> References: <3s7dte$vek@hubcap.clemson.edu> Lex Spoon (sspoon@hubcap.clemson.edu) wrote: : Bah. I won't argue that IMAP doesn't have a richer function set than : POP, nor even that IMAP doesn't have a different underlying philosophy : than POP, but the POP protocol _does_ support keeping a local mailbox : synchronized with a mailbox on the server. (ie the TOP and/or : UIDL commands) : Different clients, however, take advantage of this support to : different degrees.... Lex, could you enlighten us about which clients do what and about which servers support TOP/UIDL? Urs. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 05:40:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24541; Thu, 22 Jun 95 05:40:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03577; Thu, 22 Jun 95 05:31:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03565; Thu, 22 Jun 95 05:31:24 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA21791; Thu, 22 Jun 95 14:28:33 +0200 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 14:28:33 +0200 (METDST) From: "Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?=)" To: Lex Spoon Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Syncing UNIX/POP mail In-Reply-To: <3satmq$dkt@hubcap.clemson.edu> Message-Id: Priority: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Followup-To: Acknowledge-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Praha: Transport-Options: /delivery /return Expires: X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On 22 Jun 1995, Lex Spoon wrote: > I don't think UIDL is very common; I did see it in the source code > for one pop server, but sorry I don't remember which one. =20 At least the newest version of David Harris' Mercury for Novell Netware= =20 servers imlpements it. V. S. ---------------- +OK barbora.mff.cuni.cz, Mercury POP3 Server v1.21 ready. help +OK Mercury MTS Post Office Protocol v3 server v1.21, Copyright (c) 1993-95 David Harris. This server recognizes the following commands: USER - login as a user PASS - specify a password STAT - show mailbox statistics RETR - send a message LIST - show message numbers and sizes DELE - delete a message RSET - 'undo' all mailbox changes TOP - show lines from a message QUIT - close the connection NOOP, RPOP, LAST are also supported. Extended commands: XTND XMIT - Send a message via POP3 XTND XLST - Eudora extended list command UIDL - return unique identifier (RFC1725). . quit +OK barbora.mff.cuni.cz Server closing down. ----------------------------- | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz Europe Home page: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-en.html Z=E1kladn=ED str=E1nka: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-cz.html Zakladni stranka: http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-ce.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 06:00:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24882; Thu, 22 Jun 95 06:00:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13478; Thu, 22 Jun 95 05:50:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13472; Thu, 22 Jun 95 05:50:34 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id IAA02665; Thu, 22 Jun 1995 08:49:58 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id IAA29149; Thu, 22 Jun 1995 08:48:01 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA12779; Thu, 22 Jun 95 08:45:44 EDT Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 08:45:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Mark David Dittmer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Flashing text In-Reply-To: <3sb6fd$vvi@acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 22 Jun 1995, Mark David Dittmer wrote: > I recently saw an e-mail message with part of the .sig flashing. > How could I create flashing text in part of my .sig? > > Sorry if this has been discussed already, but I'd really like to > know how I can do this! Although I don't have the commands handy, I would like to mention that the ANSI commands for blinking, bold, inverse, underline, cursor positioning, etc., can mess up terminals/emulators that do not recognize those commands. I found this out through a humbling experience when I forwarded a really neat Thanksgiving message with a turkey walking into an oven and coming out cooked. One of my contacts wrote back that it locked her terminal and she had to disconnect to reset. Others loved it. You can get the specific commands for the various terminals from the termcap or terminfo files on your system. For those with ANSI-compatible terminals, I am appending the famous turkey message. You have to through it. (You can examine the message for the commands used to create it.) DON'T READ BEYOND THIS POINT IF YOU ARE NOT PREPARED FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF LOCKING UP YOUR TERMINAL.... <(A)0[?4h[?5l  | | | | | | | |  | | /--------- -| | | |  | | | | | |  | | -------- | |  \\ O- \\\___//  \/ \ \_____/ | |  - - \\ O-  \\\___// \/ \ \_____/  | | - - \\  O- \\\___// \/ \  \_____/ | | - -  \\ O- \\\___//  \/ \ \_____/ | |  - - \\ O-  \\\___// \/ \ \_____/  | | - - \\  O- \\\___// \/ \  \_____/ | | - -  \\  O- \\\___// \/ \  \_____/ | | - - \\  O- \\\___// \/ \  \_____/ | | - -  \\ O- \\\___//  \/ \ \_____/ | |  - - \\ O-  \\\___// \/ \ \_____/  | | - - \\  O- \\\___// \/ \  \_____/ | | - -  \\ O- \\\___//  \/ \ \_____/ | |  - - \\ O-  \\\___// \/ \ \_____/  | | - - \\  O- \\\___// \/ \  \_____/ | | - -  \\ O- \\\___//  \/ \ \_____/ | |  - - \\ O-  \\\___// \/ \ \_____/  | | - - \\  O- \\\___// \/ \  \_____/ | | - -  \\ O- \\\___//  \/ \ \_____/ | |  - - \\ O-  \\\___// \/ \ \_____/  | | - - \\  O- \\\___// \/ \  \_____/ | | - -  \\ O- \\\___//  \/ \ \_____/ | |  - - \\ O-  \\\___// \/ \ \_____/  | | - - | |  | | | | | | | |  /--------- _ | | \ | |  \| | | | /\ | |  \ | | \| | /\ | |  \ | | \ | | \| | /\ | | \ | | \ | |  \ | | \| | | |  | | | | | |  --------| | \\ O-  \\\___// \/ \ \_____/  | | - - \\  O- \\\___// \/ \  \_____/ | | - -  \\ O- \\\___//  \/ \ \_____/ | |  - - \\ O-  \\\___// \/ \ \_____/  | | - - \\  O- \\\___// \/ \  \_____/ | | - -  \\ O- \\\___//  \/ \ \_____/ | |  - - \\ O-  \\\___// \/ \ \_____/  | | - -   \\ O-  \\\___// \/ \ \_____/  | | - -  \\ O- \\\___//  \/ \ \_____/ | |  - - \\ O-  \\\___// \/ \ \_____/  | | -----   \\ O-  \\\___// \/ \ \_____/  | | ----- \\  O- \\\___// \/ \  \_____/ | | -------  \\ O \\\___//  \/ \ \_____/ | |  -------   \\\___/ \/  \_____ | | -------- \\\___ \/  \____ | | --------  \\\__ \/  \___  |  -------- \\\_  \/  \__ |  | |  -------- \\\ \/  \_  --------  \\ \/ \  -------- \ \   --------  -------- | |  | | | | | |  --------| |/\ | | \ | |  \ | | \ | | \| |  /\ | | \ | | \ | |  \| | | | /\ | |  \ | | \| | | |  _ | | \ | | \| |  | | | | | |  | | | |                          _ | | \ | | \| | | |  /\ | | \ | | \| |  /\ | | \ | | \ | |  \| |/\ | | \ | |  \ | | \ | | \| |  | | | | | |  | | --------| | o  | o  \  /  |  --------  o o  \_\ /  |  -------- o o  \_\_ / \ |  -------- o o  \_\__  / \  |  --------  o o  \_\__  / \ \  |  -------- o o  \_\__  / \ \  | | --------  \ \  / /  \ \  / /  \ \ #3 HAPPY THANKSGIVING!  #4 HAPPY THANKSGIVING!           / /  \ \  / /  \ \          \ \  / /  \ \  / /          / /  \ \  / /  \ \          \ \  / /  \ \  / /          / /  \ \  / /  \ \          \ \  / /  \ \  / /          From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 06:23:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25257; Thu, 22 Jun 95 06:23:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04139; Thu, 22 Jun 95 06:16:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04133; Thu, 22 Jun 95 06:16:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOm5C-00038HC; Thu, 22 Jun 95 06:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Horst_Hanak Subject: MIME/notMIME Selection(global) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 13:00:48 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello! Sending international MAIL by using PINE needs the feature of automatic selecting: with MIME without MIME (depanding on the destination). This can be a great help for mailuser using PINE. A possible solution may be setting a MIME-Flag in the addressbook. This MIME-Flag can be filled in the moment (*) of putting a mailaddress in the addressbook and must be checked from PINE. (*)Main-Menu 'Update address book' or TakeAddr Command What do you think about such a new feature in PINE ????? __________________________________________________________________ Forschungszentrum Karlsruhe E-Mail: Hanak@infp.KfK.DE Institut:INFP Horst Hanak ------------------------- Postfach 3640 tel: +49 7247/82-3353 D 76021 Karlsruhe / Germany fax: +49 7247/82-4624 __________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 08:51:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01020; Thu, 22 Jun 95 08:51:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16126; Thu, 22 Jun 95 08:42:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16120; Thu, 22 Jun 95 08:42:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOoMV-00038EC; Thu, 22 Jun 95 08:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jammin@best.com (Benjamin Hinson) Subject: Reading News Groups With Pine3.90/91 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 01:12:16 -0700 Message-Id: I have pine configured with one provider (Best Internet Communications) to read the "News-collection". Whatever news groups I subscribe to in my .newsrc file, I'm able to read. Now with a second provider (a2i Communications) I am unable to get the "News-collection" working. I tried transferring the Best .pinerc file to a2i and still doesn't work. Can anyone help me with the pine setup / configuration to fix this problem? Thank you. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 09:14:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02532; Thu, 22 Jun 95 09:14:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07464; Thu, 22 Jun 95 09:08:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07458; Thu, 22 Jun 95 09:08:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOojP-00038EC; Thu, 22 Jun 95 09:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: johtimo@tnso12.tele.nokia.fi (Tapio Johtimo) Subject: Re: customized-hdrs does not work ? Date: 21 Jun 1995 11:31:03 GMT Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: Ben Parker's message of Sun, 18 Jun 1995 19:25:18 -0700 Hello, about the problems concerning Reply-To: -field in customized headers... This might not be the case discussed in here, but I found out that if I try to set the Reply-To -address to the same from where I am actually sending my message, Pine leaves it out. Just for reference, I am using the following setup in my .pinerc: # Only show these headers (by default) when composing messages default-composer-hdrs=To:, Cc:, Subject:, # Add these customized headers (and possible default values) when composing customized-hdrs=Reply-To: Tapio Johtimo Happy Juhannus (Mid Summer Day)! Tapio -- johtimo@tele.nokia.fi From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 11:01:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06589; Thu, 22 Jun 95 11:01:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18892; Thu, 22 Jun 95 10:57:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18886; Thu, 22 Jun 95 10:57:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOqVE-00038EC; Thu, 22 Jun 95 10:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kjoseph@umbc.edu (Kevin D. Joseph) Subject: Converting VMS Folders Date: 22 Jun 1995 13:58:21 GMT Message-Id: <3sbstt$n2b@news.umbc.edu> Hi, I would like to know if there is an easy way to convert/copy my email folders used with VAX mail for use with Pine on an SGI unix box. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Kevin Joseph kjoseph@umbc.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 13:29:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13537; Thu, 22 Jun 95 13:29:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13779; Thu, 22 Jun 95 13:22:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13773; Thu, 22 Jun 95 13:22:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOsi1-00038EC; Thu, 22 Jun 95 13:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bradleyb@ionet.net (Harold Kurth) Subject: PC-Pine for Windows 3.91 Date: 21 Jun 1995 13:43:31 GMT Message-Id: <3s97m3$h1k@ionews.ionet.net> can anyone point me to where I can find information for configuring PC Pine for a POP3 Server?? Can it be done???? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 13:55:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14562; Thu, 22 Jun 95 13:55:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23148; Thu, 22 Jun 95 13:52:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23142; Thu, 22 Jun 95 13:52:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOt9C-00038EC; Thu, 22 Jun 95 13:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sen@hk.super.net (Mr Sen Sui) Subject: Queue the mails then send Date: 21 Jun 1995 12:44:01 GMT Message-Id: <3s946h$nep@tst.hk.super.net> HALO! IS there any ways to queue up the mails you want to send first, and then send them all at one time. I am using SLIP in Linux, everytime I press CTRL-X, I need to wait for the sendmail daemon finish sending my mail. CYA! -- ============================================================================ From the homeland of relentless pursuit of truth and perfection. Email : Home of King's College -> ! Home of JSECS -> ! Home of HKEIN -> ! ============================================================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 14:01:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14736; Thu, 22 Jun 95 14:01:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14576; Thu, 22 Jun 95 13:52:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14569; Thu, 22 Jun 95 13:52:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOtD1-00038TC; Thu, 22 Jun 95 13:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ben Parker Subject: customized-hdrs, the real story! Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 12:26:59 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Ok, I got tired of waiting and spent awhile fussing with this in my pinerc file. I tried changing the text of the header in the customized headers section thinking that might have an effect. Here is what I discovered: Reply-to: (address) works Reply-To: (address) works Reply to: and Reply To: do NOT work (show up as 'Reply ') Then I tried altering my address by adding <> brackets, adding a name+brackets, etc. All of the above produced the same results I have reported earlier: i.e. the 'Reply To: shows when invoking 'Rich Header' (ctrl-R) in compose but does NOT get saved to Fcc, nor sent in the message/news post. Finally, I tried a completely different (but valid) address and VOILA! the reply-to line suddenly works as advertised. It seems that IF the 'Reply-to' address is the same as your 'From' address, then Pine suppresses it internally. If it is different, then is allows it to pass. (check this email and news post to see what I mean) Thus the mystery is solved, and it is a Pine internal matter, not some external software issue. However, I respectfully suggest that this 'feature' should be disabled in the next version of Pine and the 'Reply-To' be allowed if present in the customised header section. I don't really care about email. All mail programs seem to handle replies OK. Not all newsreaders however interpret the 'From' correctly when replies by email are made. I am more concerned that I have a correct 'Reply-to:' line in news posts. If Pine is going to make news posts (I confess I only use Pine as an email program and to post simultaneous email/news, I do not use Pine to read news and probably never will), then I think Pine should allow me to structure the headers the way I want and not also do other internal checking and modifying/suppressing. I appreciate your help in learning more about Pine! Keep up the good work! ================== Ben Parker (IL) bparker@interaccess.com 71450.2735@compuserve.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 14:30:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16101; Thu, 22 Jun 95 14:30:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23842; Thu, 22 Jun 95 14:28:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23836; Thu, 22 Jun 95 14:28:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOtig-00038EC; Thu, 22 Jun 95 14:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: needhams@crl.com (Eric Cox) Subject: "Seamless" uudecode/encode 4 Pine? Date: 22 Jun 1995 21:16:33 GMT Message-Id: <3scmjh$cvo@nntp.crl.com> Hi All! We do alot of communicating via email with a company that only supports uuencoded file attachments. :( Unfortunately, uuencoding the attachment, executing Pine and then importing the uuencoded attachment seems to be a bit much to remember for my poor, overworked colleges. Is there any seemless way to have Pine(UNIX) shell out, uuencode the file, and import it into the email, in one step? Eric Cox - Needham's "net guy" -- NEEDHAM'S ELECTRONICS - Device Programmers BBS: (916) 924-8094 | For free software updates: Tel: (916) 924-8037 | ftp://ftp.crl.com/users/ro/needhams Fax: (916) 924-8065 | http://www.crl.com/~needhams From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 14:33:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16372; Thu, 22 Jun 95 14:33:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15437; Thu, 22 Jun 95 14:29:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ollie.uwec.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15431; Thu, 22 Jun 95 14:29:57 -0700 Received: from [137.28.108.41] by ollie.uwec.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA11736; Thu, 22 Jun 1995 16:36:40 -0500 Message-Id: <9506222136.AA11736@ollie.uwec.edu> X-Sender: oshaugbj@ollie.uwec.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 16:34:02 -0500 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brian O'Shaughnessy Subject: alternate signature in pine for unix Is there a way to have multiple signatures (or at least two) and attach a specific signature to a specific message? For example, I would like a signature that has my full name, email name and department for local use, and a second signature with my full name, email name and full work address on messages to go out over the internet to 'out of town' recipients. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 15:01:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17487; Thu, 22 Jun 95 15:01:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16198; Thu, 22 Jun 95 14:58:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16192; Thu, 22 Jun 95 14:58:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOuG3-00038EC; Thu, 22 Jun 95 14:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jmeddaug@cris.com (JOM) Subject: signature Date: 22 Jun 1995 21:24:22 GMT Message-Id: <3scn26$1lu@warp.cris.com> Is there a way to put your signature at the end of a forwarded or quoted message easily? Thanks. -- Write for info about the Commo Mailing J.J. Meddaugh, Email: jmeddaug@cris.com list and Commo Music Player. Join alt.comp.blind-users today! Got any game shows on video? Write me. Check out the fun at Michi-Web: Author of the TC BBS List for Mid-Mich. http://www.cris.com/~jmeddaug From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 15:27:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18486; Thu, 22 Jun 95 15:27:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25146; Thu, 22 Jun 95 15:25:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25140; Thu, 22 Jun 95 15:25:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOuZo-00038EC; Thu, 22 Jun 95 15:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Shui L. Chang" Subject: Supressing display of DL Date: 21 Jun 1995 17:53:26 GMT Message-Id: <3s9mam$qiq@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a way to supress display of a long distribution list on an outgoing/incoming message? Is there a Pine function similar to Unix-mail's Bcc: ? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 15:43:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19281; Thu, 22 Jun 95 15:43:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25423; Thu, 22 Jun 95 15:39:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25417; Thu, 22 Jun 95 15:39:33 -0700 Received: from opava.utia.cas.cz by visla.utia.cas.cz with SMTP (16.7/16.2) id AA23979; Fri, 23 Jun 95 00:37:24 +0200 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 23:35:56 -0200 (CDT) From: "Vladimir Solnicky =?ISO-8859-2?Q?(Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD)?= at Opava.UTIA.CAS.Cz" To: Harold Kurth Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC-Pine for Windows 3.91 X-Sender: vs@visla.utia.cas.cz In-Reply-To: <3s97m3$h1k@ionews.ionet.net> Message-Id: X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On 21 Jun 1995, Harold Kurth wrote: > can anyone point me to where I can find information for configuring PC=20 > Pine for a POP3 Server?? Can it be done???? Yes. Use `{host.domain/pop3}mailboxname' folder specification. But this is (I think) undocumented and not supported. If it is possible, use IMAP instead. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz Europe Files (with description!) place to ftp://ftp.utia.cas.cz/pub/income/vs Maybe valid: http://www.utia.cas.cz/home/WWW/data/user_data/vs/vs-home.http From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 16:02:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20141; Thu, 22 Jun 95 16:02:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25753; Thu, 22 Jun 95 15:58:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25747; Thu, 22 Jun 95 15:58:08 -0700 Received: from opava.utia.cas.cz by visla.utia.cas.cz with SMTP (16.7/16.2) id AA24015; Fri, 23 Jun 95 00:55:57 +0200 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 23:54:28 -0200 (CDT) From: "Vladimir Solnicky =?ISO-8859-2?Q?(Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD)?= at Opava.UTIA.CAS.Cz" To: Eric Cox Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "Seamless" uudecode/encode 4 Pine? X-Sender: vs@visla.utia.cas.cz In-Reply-To: <3scmjh$cvo@nntp.crl.com> Message-Id: X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On 22 Jun 1995, Eric Cox wrote: > We do alot of communicating via email with a company that only supports= =20 > uuencoded file attachments. :( This is not an aswer but it can help: About a month ago someone announce here an automated bidirectonal MIME/uuencode gateway---you send there uuencoded file (via source routing) and it continues to the receiver as a MIME mail. And if you send a MIMEd mail, it continues as uuencoded one. I think it COULD help. V. S. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz Europe Files (with description!) place to ftp://ftp.utia.cas.cz/pub/income/vs From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 16:45:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21929; Thu, 22 Jun 95 16:45:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26625; Thu, 22 Jun 95 16:41:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26613; Thu, 22 Jun 95 16:41:05 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id TAA05748; Thu, 22 Jun 1995 19:40:50 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id TAA06104; Thu, 22 Jun 1995 19:40:48 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA21962; Thu, 22 Jun 95 19:39:25 EDT Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 19:39:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: "Shui L. Chang" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Supressing display of DL In-Reply-To: <3s9mam$qiq@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 21 Jun 1995, Shui L. Chang wrote: > Is there a way to supress display of a long distribution list > on an outgoing/incoming message? Is there a Pine function > similar to Unix-mail's Bcc: ? Thanks. > put your address list name in the bcc: line by activating rich headers (^R in the header portion of the message composer) and put your address in the To: line (keeps the mail transfer agent from jumping to conclusions about what ought to be there). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 17:46:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24718; Thu, 22 Jun 95 17:46:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20189; Thu, 22 Jun 95 17:43:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20183; Thu, 22 Jun 95 17:43:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOwob-00038QC; Thu, 22 Jun 95 17:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dmbarton@mci.net (Daniel Barton) Subject: Re: customized-hdrs does not work ? Date: 21 Jun 1995 15:56:08 GMT Message-Id: <3s9feo$cmj@news.internetmci.com> References: The "default-composer-hdrs" doesn't work either. I added "Reply-To:" to this parameter in the setup menu, PINE correctly added it to the header list when I compose a message, but the "Reply-To:" address is not included in the message that is sent, or in the message that is stored in the "mail.sent" folder. This seems to be a common complaint, anybody have any other ideas? Daniel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 20:00:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28018; Thu, 22 Jun 95 20:00:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29595; Thu, 22 Jun 95 19:56:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29589; Thu, 22 Jun 95 19:56:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOyoy-00038EC; Thu, 22 Jun 95 19:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mikey@monkfish.nosc.mil (EZ Noh Mikey) Subject: Mailing lists Date: 21 Jun 1995 17:58:05 GMT Message-Id: <3s9mjd$9kj@passion.nosc.mil> When sending to a list of addresses, is there anyway to suppress all the addresses showing up in the "To:" field? Mike ............................................................................... . Mike Pawka NRaD 53140 Gatchell Rd. Code 44212 San Diego, CA 92152-7465 . . Systems Programmer, postmaster, network tinkerer, etc. . . Internet: mikey@nosc.mil OR pawka@nosc.mil 619-553-4108 (COM/AV) . ............................................................................... . E Z N O H . ............................................................................... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 20:21:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28530; Thu, 22 Jun 95 20:21:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22513; Thu, 22 Jun 95 20:18:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22507; Thu, 22 Jun 95 20:18:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sOzDH-00038EC; Thu, 22 Jun 95 20:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Wenzel Subject: Re: automatic bouncing with pine? Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 20:04:30 +0100 Message-Id: References: <3sbecn$dcv@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3sbecn$dcv@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> On 22 Jun 1995, Jockel Both wrote: > if someone is on vacation and leaves his machine running, the mailer > should be able to send the mails back to the sender with a short reply why > the mail was sent back. I know that this is possible on sgi's, but I > don't know how to enable this behaviour. I posted that question a few weeks ago ('autoreply'), because i know that ELM has a feature like this. Ask your admin if there's a feature like 'vacation' (or try 'vacation' or 'man vacation' at your system prompt) - PINE itself does not support that feature! bye. * This is an air-conditioned room - so DO NOT OPEN WINDOWS! * \|/ @ @ +-------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo-----------------------+ | Ralf Wenzel | n06600@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de | | Kavallerieweg 18 + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | 33104 Paderborn (GER) | PHONE: 0049 - 5254 - 87293 | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 23:17:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02384; Thu, 22 Jun 95 23:17:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01974; Thu, 22 Jun 95 23:13:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01968; Thu, 22 Jun 95 23:12:58 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03326; Thu, 22 Jun 95 23:12:56 -0700 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 23:12:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Ben Parker Cc: Terry Gray , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: customized-hdrs does not work ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine strips out the Reply-To header if it is the same address as the From header. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 22 23:22:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02506; Thu, 22 Jun 95 23:22:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25085; Thu, 22 Jun 95 23:18:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25079; Thu, 22 Jun 95 23:18:03 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03407; Thu, 22 Jun 95 23:18:01 -0700 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 23:17:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Rod Falanga Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Setting up a global addressbook. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You can set it up by making it one of the regular address books of some user, maybe root. That user will be able to change it and so on. Other people can have it as one of the global-addressbooks and it will be read only for them. All the address books are looked at. You don't want to change the global address book too often when people are actually using it, since it will confuse their pines, which will attempt to recover... Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On 7 Jun 1995, Rod Falanga wrote: > I am (by default) the PINE administrator. I've compiled PINE 3.91 and have > made it available for our users to use. I'd like to know how I can set up a > global addressbook, which will be looked at by any user, whenever they want to. > Can this global addressbook be looked at by PINE at the same time that it looks > at the user's local addressbook? > > This is all to take place on UNIX. > > Rod > -- > Rod Falanga | (voice) 505-841-2511 (FAX) 505-841-2543 > Scientific Laboratory Division | rfalanga@numex.unm.edu > P.O. Box 4700 | > Albuquerque, NM 87196-4700 | The opinions expressed are mine alone. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 04:34:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09457; Fri, 23 Jun 95 04:34:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05511; Fri, 23 Jun 95 04:30:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05505; Fri, 23 Jun 95 04:30:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sP6sg-00038HC; Fri, 23 Jun 95 04:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schake@tesuque.cs.sandia.gov (Stefan Chakerian) Subject: Re: Customized headers: Reply To Date: 23 Jun 1995 04:31:11 -0600 Message-Id: <3se55f$9o2@tesuque.cs.sandia.gov> References: >On 16 Jun 1995, Darren Hiebert wrote: >> I am in need of having to add a "Reply To:" header to my outgoing messages. >> I have attempted to use the "customized-hdrs" list variable to do this: >> customized-hdrs=Reply-to: darren@sirsi.com, >> Return-path: darren@sirsi.com I think what you really want to do is set: smtp-server=sirsi.com use-only-domain-name=yes Screw the reply-to fields. Many mailers don't even support that. stef -- Stefan Chakerian Good, fast, cheap. Pick two. schake@tesuque.cs.sandia.gov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 04:34:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09455; Fri, 23 Jun 95 04:34:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29357; Fri, 23 Jun 95 04:30:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29351; Fri, 23 Jun 95 04:30:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sP6um-00038IC; Fri, 23 Jun 95 04:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Return receipt Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 19:42:00 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 21 Jun 1995, Guillaume Lafrance wrote: > > > Is there a way I can ask for a return receipt when I send an email?? > > I use the following, either at the beginning or end of the message: > > > "Please let me know that you received this message." > > :) > > But is there a way that I can ask Pine to add a special header to the message, > so when the person I wrote to reads the message, a note is sent to me? > > Guillaume No. There is no Internet standard for doing what you want. Some private mail systems implement a receipt-upon-reading scheme, but the Internet as a whole does not, so there is no way you can force a remote computer to do it through Pine. Sorry. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 06:03:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11574; Fri, 23 Jun 95 06:03:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00611; Fri, 23 Jun 95 06:00:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00605; Fri, 23 Jun 95 06:00:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sP8Ea-00038LC; Fri, 23 Jun 95 05:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Davy Cheung Subject: Re: PC-Pine for Windows 3.91 Date: 23 Jun 1995 11:53:07 GMT Message-Id: <3se9v3$snp@hkein.ie.cuhk.hk> References: <3s97m3$h1k@ionews.ionet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit bradleyb@ionet.net (Harold Kurth) wrote: >can anyone point me to where I can find information for configuring PC >Pine for a POP3 Server?? Can it be done???? Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to me that Pine, by its nature, runs over IMAP2bis only. -- Regards, Davy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 06:05:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11629; Fri, 23 Jun 95 06:05:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06505; Fri, 23 Jun 95 06:00:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06499; Fri, 23 Jun 95 06:00:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sP8Dp-00038EC; Fri, 23 Jun 95 05:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pickerin@phoenix.sas.muohio.edu (Robert A. Pickering Jr.) Subject: Re: Getting pine integrated with pgp Message-Id: <1995Jun23.082815.46852@miavx1> Date: 23 Jun 95 08:28:15 -0500 References: <3s53ss$2mm@nntp.crl.com> The best thing I've found for integrating PGP with Pine is mkpgp. It's available on the cyberpunks ftp site at berkeley. -Rob J.M. Ivler (ivler@crl.com) wrote: : Is there a FAQ, or a URL, that explains how to integrate pine with pgp? : Thanks. : jmi : ivler@crl.com -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 06:44:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12372; Fri, 23 Jun 95 06:44:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06952; Fri, 23 Jun 95 06:40:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from numex.unm.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06946; Fri, 23 Jun 95 06:40:35 -0700 Received: by numex.unm.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA23195; Fri, 23 Jun 1995 07:38:51 -0600 Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 07:38:51 -0600 From: rfalanga@numex.unm.edu (Rod Falanga) Message-Id: <9506231338.AA23195@numex.unm.edu> To: hubert@cac.washington.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: (message from Steve Hubert on Thu, 22 Jun 1995 23:17:59 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: Setting up a global addressbook. Thank you very much for the info! Rod From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 07:18:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13079; Fri, 23 Jun 95 07:18:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01619; Fri, 23 Jun 95 07:15:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01613; Fri, 23 Jun 95 07:15:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sP9Uh-00038EC; Fri, 23 Jun 95 07:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dave Saville Subject: Re: Flashing text Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 13:35:36 +0100 Message-Id: References: <3sb6fd$vvi@acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3sb6fd$vvi@acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca> On 22 Jun 1995, Mark David Dittmer wrote: > I recently saw an e-mail message with part of the .sig flashing. > How could I create flashing text in part of my .sig? It can be done but it is *NOT A GOOD IDEA*. Depending on lots of things, amongst them: If your mail reader is ok; If you have the right hardware; Odd ascii escape sequences in your mail *MAY* produce the result you intended. More often it will screw the screen up for some poor sod reading the message. David C. Saville Tel: +44 1293 556326 Second star on the right and straight on 'til morning. Capt. James T. Kirk (Quoting Peter Pan) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 08:11:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14486; Fri, 23 Jun 95 08:11:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08085; Fri, 23 Jun 95 08:05:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08079; Fri, 23 Jun 95 08:05:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPAEK-00038EC; Fri, 23 Jun 95 08:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dmbarton@mci.net (Daniel Barton) Subject: How to add "reply-to" to default-composer-hdrs Date: 23 Jun 1995 14:10:33 GMT Message-Id: <3sei0p$21g@news.internetmci.com> Ok, here's what I want to do, can anybody tell me the magic to make it happen? I want a "reply-to" field to appear as part of the headers, so that I can type in the reply-to on the fly. Sometimes I'll leave it blank, which means don't add the reply-to to the note, and sometimes I'll fill in something, like "hostmaster@mci.net". I tried adding "reply-to:" to default-composer-hdrs, and it didn't work. The field showed up in the header, but not in the mail that was sent. Any hints are appreciated! Daniel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 08:20:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14786; Fri, 23 Jun 95 08:20:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02741; Fri, 23 Jun 95 08:15:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02735; Fri, 23 Jun 95 08:15:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPAPX-00038EC; Fri, 23 Jun 95 08:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Don Hayward Subject: ***address-loop-or-duplicate*** (repost) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 10:53:29 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is a repost. I've received no response, and we had trouble with our newsfeed, so I'm not sure it made it out. Apologies if you've seen it before. I have an address list made up entirely of people in the local domain. It is my understanding that I need use only the userid of each party in the list. This works, mostly. When I mail to the list, three of the addresses in it fail and the MAILER_DAEMON mail failed message lists the failed addresses in this form: ... illegal character in hostname These userids are 3, 4, and 5 characters long, and not together in the list, and they are not duplicates. How can this be corrected? Thanks. don Don Hayward Mote Marine Laboratory don@marinelab.sarasota.fl.us 1600 Ken Thompson Parkway Voice: 941.388.4441 Sarasota, FL 34236 Fax: 941.388.4312 We are an independent, non-profit, marine and estuarine research and education facility. *** Opinions expressed here are my own (not MML policy) unless otherwise indicated. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 09:18:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17979; Fri, 23 Jun 95 09:18:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09626; Fri, 23 Jun 95 09:14:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09620; Fri, 23 Jun 95 09:14:57 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14478; Fri, 23 Jun 95 09:14:53 -0700 Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 09:14:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Don Hayward Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ***address-loop-or-duplicate*** (repost) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This should mean that there is a address loop in your address book. For example, list1 contains list2 which contains list3 which contains list1... If you'd like to send a copy of your address book to me I'd be happy to take a look. Tell me which list you're having trouble with, too. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Fri, 23 Jun 1995, Don Hayward wrote: > > This is a repost. I've received no response, and we had trouble with our > newsfeed, so I'm not sure it made it out. Apologies if you've seen it > before. > > I have an address list made up entirely of people in the local domain. It > is my understanding that I need use only the userid of each party in the > list. This works, mostly. When I mail to the list, three of the > addresses in it fail and the MAILER_DAEMON mail failed message lists the > failed addresses in this form: > > ... illegal character in hostname > > These userids are 3, 4, and 5 characters long, and not together in the > list, and they are not duplicates. > > How can this be corrected? > > Thanks. > > don > > Don Hayward > Mote Marine Laboratory don@marinelab.sarasota.fl.us > 1600 Ken Thompson Parkway Voice: 941.388.4441 > Sarasota, FL 34236 Fax: 941.388.4312 > We are an independent, non-profit, marine and estuarine > research and education facility. *** Opinions expressed here are > my own (not MML policy) unless otherwise indicated. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 10:15:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20623; Fri, 23 Jun 95 10:15:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05574; Fri, 23 Jun 95 10:08:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05566; Fri, 23 Jun 95 10:08:56 -0700 Received: by watsun.cc.columbia.edu id AA29267 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Fri, 23 Jun 1995 13:08:55 -0400 Date: Fri, 23 Jun 95 13:08:54 EDT From: Joe Brennan Subject: Re: ***address-loop-or-duplicate*** (repost) In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 23 Jun 1995 09:14:51 -0700 (PDT) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: We've seen **address loop** where a user's addressbook entry points to the same address; for example, where foo@columbia.edu is a systemwide sendmail alias and the user defines an addressbook entry foo for foo (so the nickname and the real address are identical). User's purpose of doing this is to gather all used addresses into the addressbook, even where the real address is memorable and the user doesn't want to set a different nickname. The interesting thing is that it works most of the time and just occasionally gets a **address loop** bounce. Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York brennan@columbia.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 10:23:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21108; Fri, 23 Jun 95 10:23:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10950; Fri, 23 Jun 95 10:16:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from samuel.admin.lawrence.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10944; Fri, 23 Jun 95 10:16:11 -0700 Received: from lawrence.edu by lawrence.edu (PMDF V4.3-10 #3646) id <01HS1H03JCDSAPTDLB@lawrence.edu>; Fri, 23 Jun 1995 12:18:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 12:04:21 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Lowe Subject: inbox-path specifications To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <01HS1MYCF1DMAPTDLB@lawrence.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT [Newbie questions:] Is there anything special one has to do to specify an inbox-path to a VMS system, e.g. special quoted characters, Unix directory syntax, etc.? Any other considerations? Is there any kind of adminstrator's guide? I'm looking for ways to limit portions of the configuration menus, when distributing Pine to both public and faculty/administrator's desktop PCs. I've heard wind of an IMAP consortium. Any news on who is participating? Any possibility of industrial strength IMAP client software for the Mac? Thanks! _/ _/ _/ Robert Lowe, Network Manager _/ _/ _/ Computer Services _/ _/ _/ Lawrence University / Appleton, WI 54912 / USA _/ _/ _/ Voice: 414/832-6572 Fax: 414/832-7693 _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ e-mail: Robert.H.Lowe@lawrence.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 12:03:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25344; Fri, 23 Jun 95 12:03:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13074; Fri, 23 Jun 95 11:51:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13068; Fri, 23 Jun 95 11:51:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPDkB-00038EC; Fri, 23 Jun 95 11:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: Converting VMS Folders Message-Id: <173C5F62FS86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <3sbstt$n2b@news.umbc.edu> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 16:30:21 GMT In article <3sbstt$n2b@news.umbc.edu> kjoseph@umbc.edu (Kevin D. Joseph) writes: > I would like to know if there is an easy way to convert/copy my email >folders used with VAX mail for use with Pine on an SGI unix box. Any >help would be greatly appreciated! Theoretically (i.e meaning that I believe it would work, but I have not actually moved folders around this way myself) you could either run PINE under VMS and have it contact IMAPD on the SGI box, or run IMAPD on VMS and and have your unix PINE make contact with it. For experiences running Yehavi's port of VMS PINE, see: http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7Eflavell/vms-pine.html The price is right! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 12:16:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25873; Fri, 23 Jun 95 12:16:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08527; Fri, 23 Jun 95 12:11:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08521; Fri, 23 Jun 95 12:11:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPE0M-00038EC; Fri, 23 Jun 95 12:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rob Snow Subject: Does PINE do POP or am I pissing in the wind? Date: 20 Jun 1995 06:03:51 GMT Message-Id: <3s5oc7$aj9@legend.txdirect.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My ISP doesn't run IMAPD, he does run POP. Am I out of luck? --- Rob Snow rsnow@txdirect.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 13:01:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27625; Fri, 23 Jun 95 13:01:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14375; Fri, 23 Jun 95 12:56:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14369; Fri, 23 Jun 95 12:56:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPElG-00038EC; Fri, 23 Jun 95 12:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: swamp buffalo Subject: How to set word wrapping length more than 75? Date: 23 Jun 1995 19:07:56 GMT Message-Id: <3sf3ec$k0q@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, When cut and paste text from other xterm into pine it wrap at length = 75 and the tail after 75 become garbage to the next line. How to set wrap length to be larger than 75? THANKS, supat -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 13:12:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28558; Fri, 23 Jun 95 13:12:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14790; Fri, 23 Jun 95 13:08:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gate1.internet-eireann.ie by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14784; Fri, 23 Jun 95 13:07:44 -0700 Received: from dakota.internet-eireann.iedakota.internet-eireann.ie (dakota.internet-eireann.ie [194.9.32.106]) by gate1.internet-eireann.ie (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA10285 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 1995 21:08:06 +0100 Received: from dakota by dakota.internet-eireann.iedakota.internet-eireann.ie (5.4R3.10/5.40/1.0) id AA10129; Thu, 22 Jun 1995 14:19:30 -0400 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 14:19:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Feargal Ledwidge X-Sender: feargal@dakota To: Pine Info Subject: Pine 3.91 on DG/UX Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There have been a couple of posts lately regarding Pine 3.91 on DG/UX. If anyone would like further debate on DG/UX. I am running on experimental DG/UX list. To join the list, send mail to listserv@ambar.internet-eireann.ie with the following in the body of the message: subscribe dgux-list joe@foo.bar.com (assuming that your e-mail address is joe@foo.bar.com), you will then be added to the list and sent an introduction document. To post to the list, send mail to dgux-list@ambar.internet-eireann.ie Please remember that it is an experimental list and subject to unpredictable results. If confused, mail feargal@ambar.internet-eireann.ie with your confusions. Apologies, to all non-DG/UX people on this list .... Feargal -------------------------------------------------------------------- Feargal Ledwidge UNIX Systems Administration Dakota Packaging Ltd Unit 8, Airways Industrial Estate, Dublin 17, Ireland Voice: 01-830-0000 (Office) 088-504-520 (Mobile) Mail: feargal@dakota.internet-eireann.ie (Office) feargal@ambar.internet-eireann.ie (Home) World-Wide-Web: http://www.internet-eireann.ie/ambar-www/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 13:16:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28674; Fri, 23 Jun 95 13:16:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09926; Fri, 23 Jun 95 13:11:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09920; Fri, 23 Jun 95 13:11:38 -0700 Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-4 #2001) id <01HS1OTFAMD48ZFF5O@INNOSOFT.COM>; Fri, 23 Jun 1995 13:11:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 13:11:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Portia Shao Subject: Re: inbox-path specifications In-Reply-To: <01HS1MYCF1DMAPTDLB@lawrence.edu> To: Robert Lowe Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT On Fri, 23 Jun 1995, Robert Lowe wrote: > [Newbie questions:] > > Is there anything special one has to do to specify an inbox-path to a VMS > system, e.g. special quoted characters, Unix directory syntax, etc.? Any > other considerations? no, it is the same as for UNIX systems, i.e. inbox-path={vmssystem}INBOX you can also use inbox-path={vmssystem}NEWMAIL however, if you want to access other folders on VMS, you might have a folder-collections field like this folder-collections=vms {vmssystem}[], unix {unixsystem}mail/[], etc... > > Is there any kind of adminstrator's guide? I'm looking for ways to limit > portions of the configuration menus, when distributing Pine to both public > and faculty/administrator's desktop PCs. > > I've heard wind of an IMAP consortium. Any news on who is participating? > Any possibility of industrial strength IMAP client software for the Mac? > > Thanks! > > _/ _/ _/ Robert Lowe, Network Manager > _/ _/ _/ Computer Services > _/ _/ _/ Lawrence University / Appleton, WI 54912 / USA > _/ _/ _/ Voice: 414/832-6572 Fax: 414/832-7693 > _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ e-mail: Robert.H.Lowe@lawrence.edu > /portia portia@innosoft.com Innosoft International Inc. (818)919-3600 voice, (818)919-3614 fax 1050 East Garvey Ave South, West Covina, CA 91790 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 13:42:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29552; Fri, 23 Jun 95 13:42:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10469; Fri, 23 Jun 95 13:36:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10463; Fri, 23 Jun 95 13:36:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPFKb-00038EC; Fri, 23 Jun 95 13:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tmeade@larry.wyvern.com (Tony Meade) Subject: Pine Help Please Date: 22 Jun 95 13:52:30 GMT Message-Id: Hi, I am rather new to the net and hope someone can be of some help to me on the pine program. If you have messages saved in a folder can they be copied to the address book special list. Can you send the same message to multiple address without having to retype all the address. Can this be done both in the address book and a folder? Please reply to tmeade@infi.net and thanks for any help. -- Tony Meade tmeade@infi.net MEDICAL SERVICES 2001 Phone: (804)-471-5385 Fax: (804)-471-5663 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 14:07:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00528; Fri, 23 Jun 95 14:07:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15665; Fri, 23 Jun 95 14:01:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15659; Fri, 23 Jun 95 14:01:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPFqd-00038EC; Fri, 23 Jun 95 14:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" Subject: Re: customized-hdrs, the real story! Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 08:57:38 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: BP> Reply to: and Reply To: do NOT work (show up as 'Reply ') Of course this is invalid per the email RFC - you cannot have space in the header title field! I don't quite understand what you mean to achieve in terms of news - if a newsreader can't handle the 'From:' then it's broken, and may as well have trouble with 'Reply-To:' just the same. While I can't see why Pine wouldn't let it thru, it really doesn't make much sense to have superflous 'Reply-to:' identical to the 'From:' address... Zoli fekete@bc.edu (note my old full address @bcuxs2 is retired) "For my assured failures and derelictions, I ask pardon beforehand of my betters and my equals in my calling." - Rudyard Kipling From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 14:38:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01758; Fri, 23 Jun 95 14:38:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11607; Fri, 23 Jun 95 14:31:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11601; Fri, 23 Jun 95 14:31:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPGHg-00038IC; Fri, 23 Jun 95 14:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Randall S. Winchester" Subject: addressbook problem on SunOS4 -- long lists Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 20:33:33 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The following extract from my .addressbook file recreates the problem: test test list ( bogus10@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus11@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus12@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus13@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus14@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus15@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus16@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus17@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus18@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus19@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus1@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus20@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus21@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus22@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus23@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus24@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus25@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus26@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus27@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus28@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus29@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus2@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus30@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus31@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus32@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus33@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus34@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus35@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus36@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus37@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus38@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus39@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus3@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus40@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus4@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus5@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus6@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus7@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus8@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus9@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com, bogus@totally.bogus.absolutely.silly.this.is.a.test.com) The problem exists on both SunOS4.1.3 and SunOS4.1.4, and does not exist on solaris2. It does not occur with 41 addresses UNLESS 41 LINES ARE USED. just sending mail to bogus@eng.umd.edu, bogus1@eng.umd.edu, ... does not cause the problem, apparently because pine packs three addresses to a line. I don't know if 41 is the minimum number to see the problem (that's just what I tried), but I know that with 41/3 (=14) lines the problem does not occur. One last clue. On solaris, when this bounces (as well it should - that's what it doesn't do on sunos because it never gets sent) it comes back grouped in 4 or so messages. Perhaps that's why solaris works - for some reason it knows to break up messages with large headers. Just a guess. Thanks for any insite. All my machines are running the same (current) sendmail also. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 15:12:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03426; Fri, 23 Jun 95 15:12:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16828; Fri, 23 Jun 95 15:02:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16822; Fri, 23 Jun 95 15:02:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPGkk-00038EC; Fri, 23 Jun 95 14:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hughm@bristol.st.com (Hugh McIntyre) Subject: Re: Converting VMS Folders Date: 23 Jun 1995 16:41:16 GMT Message-Id: <3seqrc$rpa@lion.inmos.co.uk> References: <3sbstt$n2b@news.umbc.edu> <173C5F62FS86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> |> In article <3sbstt$n2b@news.umbc.edu> |> kjoseph@umbc.edu (Kevin D. Joseph) writes: |> |> > I would like to know if there is an easy way to convert/copy my email |> >folders used with VAX mail for use with Pine on an SGI unix box. Any |> >help would be greatly appreciated! The way I converted VMS mail folders to Unix format was to use the "vmsmail.awk" program attached below. There are also several other old news articles with other possibilities. Note: this stuff comes with no guarantees, and a bit of fine-tuning may be needed. Also, it assumes you want to create a "standard" Unix mailbox, not MMDF or MH or whatever format. Basically, for each VMS folder: a) Start up VMS mail and use "EXTRACT/ALL somefile". b) Copy this file to your Unix system. c) Run "vmsmail.awk" or whatever program. d) You now have a Unix mail version of the folder. Hugh. -- | Hugh McIntyre | hughm@bristol.st.com | SGS-Thomson Microelectronics Ltd, 1000 Aztec West, | or: hughm@inmos.co.uk | Almondsbury, Bristol, BS12 4SQ, UK. | or: hugh.mcintyre@st.com | Tel: +44 (0)1454 611443, FAX: +44 (0)1454 620688 | --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Article: 6993 of comp.unix.programmer Path: inmos.co.uk!inmos!uknet!pipex!uunet!haven.umd.edu!darwin.sura.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!netnews.upenn.edu!wang From: wang@anvil.wharton.upenn.edu (jia wang) Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix,comp.mail.multi-media,comp.unix.programmer Subject: Re: vms mail -> unix mail (summary) Message-ID: <131795@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: 17 Jun 93 14:33:26 GMT Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu Followup-To: comp.unix.ultrix Organization: Wharton Center for Academic Computing Lines: 704 Nntp-Posting-Host: anvil.wharton.upenn.edu Originator: wang@anvil.wharton.upenn.edu In article <131590@netnews.upenn.edu>, wang@anvil.wharton.upenn.edu (jia wang) writes: |> |> |> Hello, all the unix and vms experts out there, |> |> I have a vms-unix mail question which needs your help. I would like |> to transfer all the files under the [.mail] directory on a VAX |> machine, which includes all *.mai files, to a unix machine. And is |> it possible to access these mail messages from unix with all the |> folder information preserved? I was told that someone has done |> that successfully. I understand that some conversion or programming |> could be involved, and will appreciate any hint. |> |> Thank you very much. Also could you common copy my account when you |> reply if possible, thanks again. |> |> Jia |> |> I would like to thank the following people for responding my mail, and providing me useful programs, shellscripts and suggestions ... Under the help of them, this problem is solved very quickly. Rob Riepel (riepel@Snowflake.Stanford.edu) Mike Khaw (khawparcplace.com) Russ Jones (rjones@raptor.pa.dec.com) H.A. Kippenhan Jr. (KIPPENHAN@fndcd.fnal.gov) Mark Haidl (haidl@mercury.cs.uregina.ca) Stephen W. Thompson (thompson@pobox.upenn.edu) Marco Luchini (luchini@ic.ac.uk) Thanks a lot! And sorry that I posted multiple copies of this message to multiple newsgroups. Jia ==================== summary ============================================== >From rjones@wharton.upenn.edu Wed Jun 16 13:52:17 1993 Posted-Date: Wed, 16 Jun 93 10:52:02 -0700 Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jun 93 13:52:17 EDT Received: by anvil.wharton.upenn.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA22695; Wed, 16 Jun 93 13:51:17 -0400 Received: by inet-gw-2.pa.dec.com; id AA18853; Wed, 16 Jun 93 10:52:04 -0700 Received: by raptor.pa.dec.com; id AA16797; Wed, 16 Jun 93 10:52:02 -0700 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 93 10:52:02 -0700 From: rjones@wharton.upenn.edu (Russ Jones) Message-Id: <9306161752.AA16797@raptor.pa.dec.com> To: wang@anvil.wharton.upenn.edu (jia wang) Subject: Re: vms mail --> unix mail Status: R Jia, This attached script is what I and many other people inside of Digital use. It only does a folder at a time, but it works. :-) Russ Jones Digital Equipment Corporation ------------------------------ cut here --------------------------------------- #! /bin/sh ## ## Extensively rewritten by Bob Heiney on Thu Jan 21 11:56:36 PST 1993 ## to make the script actually work with real VMS mail files, and to ## fix many lame bugs. ## # $Header: /u3/acs/jdpeek/.bin/RCS.Z/vmsmail2mh,v 1.2 90/03/22 06:53:59 jdpeek Exp $ ### vmsmail2mh - split VMS mail messages from EXTRACT/ALL into MH folder ### Usage: vmsmail2mh [+folder] [...vmsmsg-files] ## ## AN EASY WAY TO TRANSFER VMS MAIL MESSAGES TO UNIX IS BY EXTRACTING ## ALL THE MESSAGES FROM A VMS MAIL FOLDER INTO A FILE... USE: ## MAIL> EXTRACT/ALL ## _file: FILENAME ## THEN, YOU CAN ftp THEM TO THE SYSTEM RUNNING MH. ## ## WHEN YOU GET THEM TO THE MH SYSTEM, vmsmail2mh WILL READ THROUGH ## THE FILE (OR STANDARD INPUT, IF YOU DON'T GIVE A FILENAME): ## - THE MESSAGES ARE SEPARATED BY FORMFEEDS (CONTROL-L). ## vmsmail2mh WILL CUT THEM INTO SEPARATE MH MESSAGES ## IN THE CURRENT FOLDER (OR +folder IF YOU GIVE ONE). ## - THE FORMAT OF THE VMS MAIL MESSAGE IS DIFFERENT. ## * Subj: LINES ARE CONVERTED TO Subject: LINES. ## * From: LINES ARE SPLIT INTO From: AND Date: LINES. ## ONLY THE FIRST Subj: AND From: IN EACH MESSAGE IS CONVERTED. ## ## BUG: VMS ADDRESSES LIKE: ## SMTP%"user@host" ## HOST::USER ## AREN'T CONVERTED. IN FACT, *NO* ADDRESSES ARE CONVERTED. # NOTE: PROGRAM HASN'T BEEN TESTED THOROUGHLY. # CHECK THE MESSAGES! # Placed in the public domain. Use at your own risk. # --Jerry Peek, 22 March 1990 dfltprot=600 # DEFAULT MESSAGE PROTECTION (IF NONE IN MH PROFILE) folopts="-fast -nolist -nototal -nopack -norecurse" mh=/usr/bin/mh scanopts="-noclear -noheader -noreverse" case "$1" in [@+]?*) # IF $1 DOESN'T EXIST, folder WILL CREATE IT (SIGH). # THAT'S BECAUSE stdout IS REDIRECTED AWAY FROM TERMINAL. if $mh/folder $folopts "$1" /dev/null then # GET PATHNAME OF FOLDER, LAST MESSAGE NUMBER: folpath="`$mh/mhpath`" || exit firstmsg="`$mh/scan -format '%(msg)' last`" || firstmsg=0 else echo "`basename $0`: no folder. quitting." 1>&2 exit 1 fi ;; *) echo "Usage: `basename $0` +folder|@folder [file] ('$1' doesn't start with + or @.)" 1>&2 exit 1 ;; esac if [ -n "$2" -a \( ! -r "$2" \) ] then echo "`basename $0`: quitting: can't read VMS file '$2'." 1>&2 exit 1 fi # GET PROTECTION MODE FROM MH PROFILE (IF NONE, USE $dfltprot): #msgprot="`$mhprofile -b msg-protect`" || msgprot=$dfltprot msgprot=$dfltprot # MAKE SHELL ARCHIVE FILE ON awk'S STANDARD OUTPUT. # PIPE IT INTO sh TO CREATE THE MESSAGE FILES... nawk "BEGIN { folpath=\"$folpath\" # STORE AS STRING, WITH QUOTES msgprot=$msgprot # STORE AS NUMBER (NO QUOTES) msgnum=$firstmsg"' # CHANGE FROM DOUBLE- TO SINGLE-QUOTES inmsg = 1 sawff = 0 suppressff = 1 } # PROCESS MESSAGES. EACH MESSAGE STARTS WITH CONTROL-L { # MESSAGE STARTS WITH CTRL-L ON A LINE BY ITSELF. # PRINT SHELL COMMANDS AND RESET FLAGS: if ($1 ~ /^From:/ && sawff) { if (!suppressff) { printf "END-OF-%s/%d\n", folpath, msgnum # SET PROTECTION (INEFFICIENT; SHOULD DO ALL MSGS. AT ONCE) printf "chmod %d %s/%d\n\n", msgprot, folpath, msgnum } suppressff = 0 inmsg = 0 } else { sawff = 0 } # AT START OF MESSAGE, PRINT START OF ARCHIVE AND SET FLAGS: if (inmsg == 0) { inmsg = 1 msgnum += 1 printf "/bin/cat > %s/%d << \\END-OF-%s/%d\n", \ folpath, msgnum, folpath, msgnum didsubj = 0 didfrom = 0 } # TURN Subj: INTO Subject: AND SET FLAG TO MAKE SURE WE DO NOT # TRASH ANY OTHER Subj: LINES (LIKE IN FORWARDED MESSAGES). # STRIP DATE (14-MAR-1990 15:31:12.02) OFF END OF THE From: LINE # AND MOVE IT TO LINE OF ITS OWN, THEN SET FLAG LIKE ABOVE: if ($1 ~ /^Subj:/ && didsubj == 0) { $1 = "Subject:" didsubj = 1 print $0 } else if ($1 ~ /^From:/ && didfrom == 0) { printf "%s %s", $1, $2 if (NF > 4) { printf " (" for (i = 3; i <= NF - 2; i++) { if (i!=3) { printf " " } printf "%s", $i } printf ")" } printf "\n" printf "Date: %s %s\n", $(NF - 1), $NF didfrom = 1 } else if ($0 ~ /^\f$/ && inmsg == 1) { sawff=1 next } else print } END { printf "END-OF-%s/%d\n", folpath, msgnum # SET PROTECTION (INEFFICIENT; SHOULD DO ALL MSGS. AT ONCE) printf "chmod %d %s/%d\n\n", msgprot, folpath, msgnum }' $2 | # IF NO $2, WILL READ STANDARD INPUT... /bin/sh -e # EXIT ON ANY ERROR exit >From khaw@wharton.upenn.edu Wed Jun 16 13:07:40 1993 Posted-Date: Wed, 16 Jun 93 10:06:29 PDT Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jun 93 13:07:39 EDT Received: by anvil.wharton.upenn.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA22497; Wed, 16 Jun 93 13:06:40 -0400 Received: from central.parcplace.com by parcplace.com with SMTP id AA03041 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 16 Jun 1993 10:06:57 -0700 Received: from durian.PPS (durian.parcplace.com) by central.parcplace.com with SMTP id AA17288 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 16 Jun 1993 10:06:56 -0700 Received: by durian.PPS (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28670; Wed, 16 Jun 93 10:06:29 PDT Date: Wed, 16 Jun 93 10:06:29 PDT From: khaw@wharton.upenn.edu (Mike Khaw) Message-Id: <9306161706.AA28670@durian.PPS> To: wang@anvil.wharton.upenn.edu Subject: Re: vms mail --> unix mail Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm References: <131583@netnews.upenn.edu> Status: R You may be able to use the attached awk script. I last used it about 4 years ago when I last dealt with a VMS machine. With any luck, mail file formats on VMS haven't changed since then and you can use the script as is. Otherwise, it'll at least serve as a starting point. Awk isn't too difficult to learn. --- documentation file for vmsmail.awk --- The awk script "vmsmail.awk" converts mail headers in a VMS 3.5 "MAIL.MAI" file to a format that the Unix mail program can understand. A VMS mail message begins with a header of the form From: USER dd-MMM-yyyy hh:mm * where the asterisk indicates a new (unread) mail message A Unix mail message begins with From USER www Mmm dd hh:mm:ss yyyy where Www is a 3 letter abbreviation of the day of the week (first letter capitalized), and Mmm is the month counterpart. New Unix mail messages are unmarked. Old (read) messages are marked with a line of the form Status: RO following the "Subj:" header line, which both VMS and Unix mail have. Finally, an ASCII form-feed precedes each VMS mail message, but Unix mail messages are separated by a blank line following each message. Therefore, what the awk script has to do is (1) find the beginning of a VMS mail message (i.e., distinguish it from formfeeds and lines beginning "From:" within the body of a mail message), and change the message separator from a formfeed to a blank line. 2) figure out what day of the week a given date corresponds to, and reformat the "From" header accordingly. 3) if the message is an old/read one, insert the "Status: RO" line following the "Subj:" line. The awk script starts out by setting up (a) an array of day-of-week names indexed by integers in the range 0 to 6 inclusive (this allows modulo arithmetic computations), (b) an array of Unix-mail format month names indexed by VMS-mail format month names, and (c) an array showing what day of the week the first of each month was in 1972 (a safe baseline year because it precedes the release dates of VMS 3.5 and 4.2bsd Unix), indexed by Unix- format month name. The awk "BEGIN" clause has a function analogous to compile- time initialization in C (see the awk tutorial, section 2.1). The body of the script contains 4 pattern-match directed clauses (see section 1.2 in the awk tutorial), where the last clause is a "default" that matches any line in the input, because it has no pattern to match. The first 3 clauses each look for a line beginning with a particular token. Because awk attempts to match each input line to EVERY clause, each clause ends with "next" to force awk to go on to the next line of input. Let's examine the simplest clause first and work towards the most complex. 1) Whenever a line begins with a formfeed (^L), the script simply sets a flag called "pagesep" (page separator). The "^L" gets printed only if the next line is not the beginning of a new mail message; therefore, the script does not act on it immediately. (It can't check "the previous line" because a VMS mail file can begin with "^L" as its first line.) 2) If a line does not begin with "From:", "Subj:" or "^L", the script checks to see if there is a deferred "^L" that is within the body of a mail message (pagesep = 1 and newmsg = 0; newmsg = 1 as long as the script is dealing with mail headers), and if so prints the "^L" and unsets "pagesep" before it prints the current line. 3) If the line begins with the token "Subj:", it gets printed. Then if the "newmsg" flag is still on, indicating that this is a header line, the string "status" gets printed and the script unsets "newmsg". "status" is set in the remaining clause: 4) If an input line begins with the token "From:", the script first checks to see if "pagesep" is set. If not, this line is just a line within the body of a mail message, so it gets printed. Otherwise, the script prints a blank line message-separator, unsets "pagesep", and sets "newmsg" to 1 to indicate that it found the start of a new message. Then, it sets the string variable "status" to "Status: RO" if the input line didn't have an asterisk (fewer than 5 tokens), or empty otherwise. Next, it extracts the date, month and year, translating VMS' all-caps month name to the Unix equivalent. Finally, it calculates the day of the week, and prints the Unix-format "From" line. --- documentation file for vmsmail.awk --- --- vmsmail.awk --- # awk program to reformat VMS mail header for Unix mail BEGIN { sun = 0; dname[sun] = "Sun" mon = 1; dname[mon] = "Mon" tue = 2; dname[tue] = "Tue" wed = 3; dname[wed] = "Wed" thu = 4; dname[thu] = "Thu" fri = 5; dname[fri] = "Fri" sat = 6; dname[sat] = "Sat" mname["JAN"] = "Jan"; firstof["Jan"] = sun mname["FEB"] = "Feb"; firstof["Feb"] = wed mname["MAR"] = "Mar"; firstof["Mar"] = wed mname["APR"] = "Apr"; firstof["Apr"] = sat mname["MAY"] = "May"; firstof["May"] = mon mname["JUN"] = "Jun"; firstof["Jun"] = thu mname["JUL"] = "Jul"; firstof["Jul"] = sat mname["AUG"] = "Aug"; firstof["Aug"] = tue mname["SEP"] = "Sep"; firstof["Sep"] = fri mname["OCT"] = "Oct"; firstof["Oct"] = sun mname["NOV"] = "Nov"; firstof["Nov"] = wed mname["DEC"] = "Dec"; firstof["Dec"] = fri } $1 == "From:" { if (!pagesep) # not a new mail header { print next } print "" # substitute blank line for formfeed pagesep = 0 newmsg = 1 # unread mail has an asterisk as a 5th field if (NF < 5) status = "Status: RO" # Unix flags OLD messages else status = "" # reformat date/time from DD-MMM-YYYY HH:MM to Day Mmm DD HH:MM:00 YYYY dash = index($3, "-") date = substr($3, 1, dash - 1) month = substr($3, dash + 1, 3); month = mname[month] year = substr($3, dash + 5, 4) # find day-of-week (baseline = Jan 1, 1972, a Saturday) y = year - 1972 leapdays = int(y/4) - int(y/100) + int(y/400) + 1 d = y + leapdays + firstof[month] + date - 1 + sat if ((year % 4) == 0 || (year % 400) == 0) if (month == "Jan" || month == "Feb") --d # adjust for date in Jan/Feb of a leap year if (date < 10) date = " " date print "From", $2, dname[d % 7], month, date, $4 ":00", year next } $1 == "Subj:" { print if (newmsg) # "Status" after "Subj" { print status newmsg = 0 } next } $1 == " " { pagesep = 1; next } # delay formfeeds { # ordinary line if (pagesep && !newmsg) { pagesep = 0 print " " } print $0 next } --- vmsmail.awk --- -- Michael Khaw khaw@parcplace.com (or khaw%parcplace.com@netcom.com) ParcPlace Systems, Sunnyvale, CA PRODUCT INFO: info@parcplace.com >From riepel@wharton.upenn.edu Wed Jun 16 12:41:35 1993 Posted-Date: Wed, 16 Jun 93 09:41:32 -0700 Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jun 93 12:41:35 EDT Received: by anvil.wharton.upenn.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA22433; Wed, 16 Jun 93 12:40:37 -0400 Received: by Snowflake.Stanford.edu (5.65/inc-1.0) id AA10789; Wed, 16 Jun 93 09:41:32 -0700 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 93 09:41:32 -0700 From: riepel@wharton.upenn.edu (Rob Riepel) Message-Id: <9306161641.AA10789@Snowflake.Stanford.edu> To: wang@anvil.wharton.upenn.edu (jia wang) In-Reply-To: wang@anvil.wharton.upenn.edu's message of 16 Jun 93 15:06:57 GMT Subject: vms mail --> unix mail References: <131588@netnews.upenn.edu> Status: Re Here's a VMS fortran program to convert VMS mail files to unix mail files. begin 640 v2u_mail.tar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M[\TDV=IGR2IAI0+;EI>C,+MA"&LS3TEJ"L&]IPL:*"EN7$BP+R+"D M:<,VTQ1;QP2J9"),+A;&VDH6VYA0K$#MYAV%G(?8%SMB5RZUFK&>*06 IM43 +=P0*CCU-.S:+V'-, end Message 4: >From KIPPENHAN@wharton.upenn.edu Wed Jun 16 14:34:28 1993 Posted-Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1993 13:34:25 -0500 (CDT) Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jun 93 14:34:27 EDT Received: by anvil.wharton.upenn.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA22812; Wed, 16 Jun 93 14:33:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1993 13:34:25 -0500 (CDT) From: "H.A. Kippenhan Jr." To: wang@anvil.wharton.upenn.edu Message-Id: <930616133425.27a00263@fndcd.fnal.gov> Subject: VMS mail <---> Unix mail Status: RO Hi Jia: The only way you would be able to preserve the folder information is to place each folder in a separate Unix file. The VMS mail file (MAIL.MAI) is an indexed sequential file. Short mail messages (1,536 or less bytes in length) are stored in MAIL.MAI. There is a fourth block associated with each message that contains the overhead associated with the indexed file; one portion of that overhead is a secondary key -- the folder name. Since Unix doesn't support indexed files, it would seem very difficult to transport the folder concept from VMS to Unix. I suppose you could make separate files for each folder (I believe that the Berkeley mail tool does this), but that implies some file gymnastics on the Unix side. I hope this is of some help! Best regards - Kipp - {~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~} { H.A. Kippenhan Jr. | Internet: Kippenhan@FNDCD.FNAL.GOV } { National HEPnet Management | HEPnet/NSI DECnet: FNDCD::KIPPENHAN } { Fermi National Accelerator Lab. | BITnet: Kippenhan@FNDCD.BITNET } { P.O. Box 500 MS: FCC-3E/368 | Telephone: (708) 840-8068 } { Batavia, Illinois 60510 | FAX: (708) 840-8463 } ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 15:14:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03542; Fri, 23 Jun 95 15:14:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16957; Fri, 23 Jun 95 15:05:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16951; Fri, 23 Jun 95 15:05:55 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24498; Fri, 23 Jun 95 15:05:53 -0700 Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 15:05:48 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jim Gogan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMSP status? In-Reply-To: <3rnb3a$j72@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There's a new draft out. I think everyone was concentrating on IMAP4 and haven't geared up for IMSP yet... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 14 Jun 1995, Jim Gogan wrote: > Anybody know what the status of IMSP (Internet Message Support Protocol) is > these days? When I went to retrieve a copy of the draft document on IMSP > (ftp://ds.internic.net/internet-drafts/draft-myers-imap-imsp-01.txt), I was > told that since it had been an Internet draft for more than 6 months and not > turned into an RFC, it had been deleted. > > Does it exist somewhere else these days? > What's the timetable for it becoming an RFC? > > Thanks. > > -- Jim Gogan (gogan@email.unc.edu) > Univ. of North Carolina at Chapel Hill > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 15:41:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04778; Fri, 23 Jun 95 15:41:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13067; Fri, 23 Jun 95 15:32:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13061; Fri, 23 Jun 95 15:32:51 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25233; Fri, 23 Jun 95 15:31:29 -0700 Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 15:31:22 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Vladimir Solnicky =?ISO-8859-2?Q?(Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD)?= at Opava.UTIA.CAS.Cz" Cc: Harold Kurth , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC-Pine for Windows 3.91 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 22 Jun 1995, Vladimir Solnicky =?ISO-8859-2?Q?(Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD)?= at Opava.UTIA.CAS.Cz wrote: > On 21 Jun 1995, Harold Kurth wrote: > > > can anyone point me to where I can find information for configuring PC > > Pine for a POP3 Server?? Can it be done???? > > Yes. Use `{host.domain/pop3}mailboxname' folder specification. But this is > (I think) undocumented and not supported. If it is possible, use IMAP > instead. > Actually, the pop3 driver is not built into PC-Pine as distributed... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL+tAvt/IU4uTDdHNAQHQZQH+KJeZPy+aqiy7aFkARLv9kCoSxbxzd62w bvh7Brcv2tRZVy0/3r7xGdNf3znWbYtkRQM46JtrHVKEVTU91URSoQ== =8FPG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 16:01:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05320; Fri, 23 Jun 95 16:01:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13578; Fri, 23 Jun 95 15:58:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13572; Fri, 23 Jun 95 15:57:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPHa6-00038HC; Fri, 23 Jun 95 15:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" Subject: Re: Listing unsubscribed Newsgroups Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 16:57:15 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: The control key you're looking for is right there: '^X To Matching Grps', which gives you all when pressed on the blank line (of course, it may be a bit too cryptic, so some local info provided can help). Starting with something like news.newuser.announce (and/or local equivalent) could be done by adding an initial .newsrc to each newly created home directory - I think you'd need that no matter what news-collection you put in the .pinerc, anyway (the collection only has the matching entries from .newsrc)! Zoli fekete@bc.edu (note my old full address @bcuxs2 is retired) "For my assured failures and derelictions, I ask pardon beforehand of my betters and my equals in my calling." - Rudyard Kipling From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 16:08:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05552; Fri, 23 Jun 95 16:08:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17997; Fri, 23 Jun 95 16:03:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17991; Fri, 23 Jun 95 16:02:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPHjO-00038EC; Fri, 23 Jun 95 16:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: danc@park.uvsc.edu (Dan Canfield) Subject: Creating address lists outside of pine Date: 23 Jun 1995 16:06:44 -0600 Message-Id: <3sfdtk$9t9@park.uvsc.edu> I want to create a mailing list in pine, but I'd like to be able to edit the address file outside of pine with say vi. I've got a file that contains the email address for about 50 people. I tried bringing those addresses into .addressbook using vi and encasing them in () with each seperated with commas. I do this and then save .addressbook. When I enter the address book in pine I get a message that .addressbook.lu is invalid and I am assuming it gets rebuilt. However, the addresses are all jumbled up and can't be used. Ideas? Is there a limit to the size of a mailing and is it possible to edit the .addressbook in this way. I was able to add a single alias address using vi, but it croked on the mailing list try. Dan Canfield danc@park.uvsc.edu 89 Indy 707 89 FJ1200 RP90 ============================================================================= Blank ============================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 18:22:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11340; Fri, 23 Jun 95 18:22:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16619; Fri, 23 Jun 95 18:18:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16613; Fri, 23 Jun 95 18:18:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPJqP-00038EC; Fri, 23 Jun 95 18:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeff Victor Subject: Listing unsubscribed Newsgroups Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 13:08:18 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Apology-in-advance if this is covered in the FAQ - I haven't found the FAQ yet... Q: What should "news-collections" be set to for new Pine users? Context: We've been running Pine 3.91 here for awhile (THANK YOU for creating and updating it - great software, "Just Works", even with NIS+, multiple mail servers, and non-standard sendmail config) and recently started running NetNews. I'm trying to decide what their default .pinerc should have for "news-collections". I think the reasonable choices are "News" (list all groups) or "Subscribed-Groups" (just list the ones to which they're subscribed). Since these people have never used News on this system before, they won't be subscribed to any groups when they start. So if I start them with "Subscribed...", they won't see any, and won't know what to do, and won't know the names of the available groups, and will be generally lost (after all, they *are* "just" users, and get lost easily... :-) ) Starting them off with "News" solves the "lost" problem, but many of them will never get out of News "mode" into "Subsc..." mode. Using it regularly this way is very awkward, and I will have many unhappy users. :( So: I'd like to start them in "Subscribed..." mode, but also have a command which lists the available *Unsubscribed* groups. Best of all: when you use 'A' to subscribe, and Pine asks "Which newsgroup", have a control key which lists them and lets you select one. Is this available and I missed it? Is there a better approach to the problem? Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jeff Victor The SageNet `Net Sage' victoj@sage.edu Network Administrator 518-270-2354 The Sage Colleges Any opinions detected here are Troy, New York probably your imagination running wild. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 18:26:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11413; Fri, 23 Jun 95 18:26:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20650; Fri, 23 Jun 95 18:23:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20644; Fri, 23 Jun 95 18:23:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPJrc-00038HC; Fri, 23 Jun 95 18:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Davy Cheung Subject: Re: PC-Pine for Windows 3.91 Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 08:28:40 +0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hello, On Fri, 23 Jun 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > The syntax is a /pop3 switch inside the network spec, e.g. {server/pop3}. > POP3 doesn't support folders, so no folder name is needed. Oh! I see... Sorry for my ignorance. Thank you. But I like to use Pine's IMAP more, as I can read the folders in my home directory. :> > There is *no* POP3 offline support in 3.91. POP3 offline support will > appear in the future, as an incidental of IMAP4 disconnected support. That means there will also be "offline" IMAP support? That's great. Regards, Davy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 20:40:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14136; Fri, 23 Jun 95 20:40:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18479; Fri, 23 Jun 95 20:33:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18473; Fri, 23 Jun 95 20:33:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPLxA-00038HC; Fri, 23 Jun 95 20:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: joe@plantrol.com (Joe DeBiso) Subject: Need pine binaries for DG/UX PLEASE!!! Date: 22 Jun 1995 13:07:02 GMT Message-Id: <3sbptm$19t@jubjub.wizard.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Does anybody have the binaries for pine on DG/UX that they would like to share?? Please let me know ASAP!! Thanx in advance! Joe DeBiso From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 21:44:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15491; Fri, 23 Jun 95 21:44:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22854; Fri, 23 Jun 95 21:38:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22848; Fri, 23 Jun 95 21:38:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPMxU-00038HC; Fri, 23 Jun 95 21:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" Subject: Re: Creating address lists outside of pine Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 22:16:00 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3sfdtk$9t9@park.uvsc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3sfdtk$9t9@park.uvsc.edu> The adressess indeed need to be in a comma-separated list enclosed in () - one important thing is to precede it with two TABs, because the format is: ^I^I() The other tricky thing is that several hundred characters can be squeezed into a line, but if that's got too many than Pine mangles it. You can break it down into many lines, but the continuing ones have to start with a space! You can eliminate Pine's complaint about the lookup file (and its possible mangling the book while trying to rebuild it) by just deleting the .addressbook.lu file after editing .addressbook! Zoli fekete@bc.edu (note my old full address @bcuxs2 is retired) "For my assured failures and derelictions, I ask pardon beforehand of my betters and my equals in my calling." - Rudyard Kipling On 23 Jun 1995, Dan Canfield wrote: > I want to create a mailing list in pine, but I'd like to be able to > edit the address file outside of pine with say vi. I've got a file that > contains the email address for about 50 people. I tried bringing those > addresses into .addressbook using vi and encasing them in () with each > seperated with commas. > > I do this and then save .addressbook. When I enter the address book > in pine I get a message that .addressbook.lu is invalid and I am assuming > it gets rebuilt. However, the addresses are all jumbled up and can't be > used. > > Ideas? Is there a limit to the size of a mailing and is it possible to > edit the .addressbook in this way. I was able to add a single alias > address using vi, but it croked on the mailing list try. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 22:39:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16649; Fri, 23 Jun 95 22:39:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20090; Fri, 23 Jun 95 22:34:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20084; Fri, 23 Jun 95 22:34:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPNpF-00038EC; Fri, 23 Jun 95 22:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: st@hp735c.csc.cuhk.hk (S.T. Wong) Subject: Pls help: Use Pine to read NFS-mounted mailbox Date: 24 Jun 1995 04:33:38 GMT Message-Id: <3sg4j2$h71@hpg30a.csc.cuhk.hk> Hi all, We're using pine 3.87 and 3.91 on HP-UX 9.0 and 9.01. Pine hangs when accessing NFS-mounted mailboxes. I think we should use the ".lock" locking mechanism but i'm not sure how to "enable" it. Would anyone pls help ? Pls send your advice to st-wong@cuhk.hk. I'll post the summary. I apologize if this's a trivial question or FAQ. :( Thanks a lot !! Regards, ST Wong From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 23 23:28:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17624; Fri, 23 Jun 95 23:28:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24162; Fri, 23 Jun 95 23:24:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24156; Fri, 23 Jun 95 23:24:09 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08269; Fri, 23 Jun 95 23:24:06 -0700 Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 23:24:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Robert Lowe Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: inbox-path specifications In-Reply-To: <01HS1MYCF1DMAPTDLB@lawrence.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Robert, I think the VMS experts have already answered your first question. As to an administrator's manual, the closest approximation right now is the Pine Tech Notes: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/tech-notes.txt As for an IMAP consortium, there are plans. I'll put you on the list of interested parties. You might also want to look at: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.software The leading Mac IMAP clients at the moment seem to be Baylor's Mail Drop and Esys Corp's Simeon, both fairly "young", but under active development. -teg On Fri, 23 Jun 1995, Robert Lowe wrote: > [Newbie questions:] > > Is there anything special one has to do to specify an inbox-path to a VMS > system, e.g. special quoted characters, Unix directory syntax, etc.? Any > other considerations? > > Is there any kind of adminstrator's guide? I'm looking for ways to limit > portions of the configuration menus, when distributing Pine to both public > and faculty/administrator's desktop PCs. > > I've heard wind of an IMAP consortium. Any news on who is participating? > Any possibility of industrial strength IMAP client software for the Mac? > > Thanks! > > _/ _/ _/ Robert Lowe, Network Manager > _/ _/ _/ Computer Services > _/ _/ _/ Lawrence University / Appleton, WI 54912 / USA > _/ _/ _/ Voice: 414/832-6572 Fax: 414/832-7693 > _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ e-mail: Robert.H.Lowe@lawrence.edu > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 24 00:36:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19055; Sat, 24 Jun 95 00:36:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24875; Sat, 24 Jun 95 00:26:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24869; Sat, 24 Jun 95 00:26:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPPUV-00038YC; Sat, 24 Jun 95 00:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" Subject: Re: Mailing lists Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 18:19:19 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3s9mjd$9kj@passion.nosc.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3s9mjd$9kj@passion.nosc.mil> Make it 'Bcc:' (that stands for Blind Copy) instead of 'To:'. Zoli fekete@bc.edu (note my old full address @bcuxs2 is retired) "For my assured failures and derelictions, I ask pardon beforehand of my betters and my equals in my calling." - Rudyard Kipling On 21 Jun 1995, EZ Noh Mikey wrote: > When sending to a list of addresses, is there anyway to suppress > all the addresses showing up in the "To:" field? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 24 01:41:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20633; Sat, 24 Jun 95 01:41:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22714; Sat, 24 Jun 95 01:33:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22708; Sat, 24 Jun 95 01:33:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPQaK-00038LC; Sat, 24 Jun 95 01:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" Subject: Re: automatic bouncing with pine? Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 21:26:22 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3sbecn$dcv@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3sbecn$dcv@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Other than the Unix 'vacation' program, mail-filters such as procmail could also be used. See also . Zoli fekete@bc.edu (note my old full address @bcuxs2 is retired) "For my assured failures and derelictions, I ask pardon beforehand of my betters and my equals in my calling." - Rudyard Kipling On 22 Jun 1995, Jockel Both wrote: > is there anybody who knows about the possibility of automatic > mail bouncing, may be triggered by a special dot-file. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 24 02:23:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21358; Sat, 24 Jun 95 02:23:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26180; Sat, 24 Jun 95 02:18:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26174; Sat, 24 Jun 95 02:18:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPRCv-00038EC; Sat, 24 Jun 95 02:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu (Jim LeBay) Subject: Re: IBM or listserv to UNIX conversion? Date: 15 Jun 1995 22:50:40 GMT Message-Id: <3rqdg0$o4c@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: Randy Jay Yarger (randy@hs1.hst.msu.edu) wrote: > I'm looking for something that will convert Listserv mail logs and other > IBMish mail files to standard Unix mail that can be read in as a folder > in Pine. Does such a beast exist? We have a CMS exec program named BOOK2UNI, which converts CMS notebooks to the standard UNIX mailbox format. I will send you instructions on how to access/use it. ------ Jim LeBay (517) 353-1800 x143 353-5364 (FAX) Computing Information Center lebay@msu.edu Michigan State University lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu (NeXTmail) ---------- Love at first sight is one of the greatest labor-saving devices the world has ever seen. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 24 03:38:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22945; Sat, 24 Jun 95 03:38:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24168; Sat, 24 Jun 95 03:34:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24162; Sat, 24 Jun 95 03:34:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPSWy-00038LC; Sat, 24 Jun 95 03:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: PC-Pine for Windows 3.91 Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 16:06:18 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3s97m3$h1k@ionews.ionet.net> <3se9v3$snp@hkein.ie.cuhk.hk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3se9v3$snp@hkein.ie.cuhk.hk> On 23 Jun 1995, Davy Cheung wrote: > bradleyb@ionet.net (Harold Kurth) wrote: > >can anyone point me to where I can find information for configuring PC > >Pine for a POP3 Server?? Can it be done???? > Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to me that Pine, by its > nature, runs over IMAP2bis only. Here are the facts: Pine 3.91 has POP3 support, in that it will use POP3 as if it were IMAP (only the Deleted status is meaningful, and if you don't expunge then all the flags get cleared). The syntax is a /pop3 switch inside the network spec, e.g. {server/pop3}. POP3 doesn't support folders, so no folder name is needed. However, 3.91's POP3 code has a rather serious bug in memory management which keeps it from being very useful; it's likely to crash if you try it. If you rebuild 3.91 using the imap-3.6.BETA toolkit (instead of the 3.5 version that's distributed with 3.91), it'll fix this bug. There is *no* POP3 offline support in 3.91. POP3 offline support will appear in the future, as an incidental of IMAP4 disconnected support. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 24 04:06:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23983; Sat, 24 Jun 95 04:06:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27162; Sat, 24 Jun 95 04:02:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27156; Sat, 24 Jun 95 04:02:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPSuf-00038TC; Sat, 24 Jun 95 03:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: KLeung@paris.ics.uci.edu (XHacker) Subject: *** Question : Win95 MicroSoft Exchange Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 10:37:12 GMT Message-Id: <3sgpp2$nrb@news.service.uci.edu> Would it be possible to use MicroSoft Exhange as a Unix Dail-up account mail client ( like Peagaus and Eudora )? Anybody doing that, would you tell me how to start with? I will be appreicated if anyone would take time to answer my question via Email. THANKS IN ADVANCE. ---- -\|/- (o o) +======oOO=(_)=OOo========+ | Kent Leung, | | KLeung@paris.uci.edu | | Irvine, California | +=========================+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 24 04:07:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24033; Sat, 24 Jun 95 04:07:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24507; Sat, 24 Jun 95 04:02:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24501; Sat, 24 Jun 95 04:02:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPSuj-00038VC; Sat, 24 Jun 95 03:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pdcic@public.sta.net.cn (Your Name Here) Subject: where to get pine Date: 23 Jun 1995 07:53:07 GMT Message-Id: <3sdrt3$7ia@info.sta.net.cn> Would you kindly let us know the sites of latest version of Pine for SunOS 5.x? Thank you. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 24 06:55:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26884; Sat, 24 Jun 95 06:55:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28945; Sat, 24 Jun 95 06:49:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28939; Sat, 24 Jun 95 06:49:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPVZ7-00038LC; Sat, 24 Jun 95 06:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Reading un-MIME-ed mail In-Reply-To: Jeffrey Goldberg's message of Thu, 8 Jun 1995 11: 57:58 +0100 Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 15:33:00 GMT In article Jeffrey Goldberg writes: How do I deal with MIME messages that have been forwarded to me by mailers (or people) who don't/can't deal with MIME? Here is a local addition to our munpack(1) man page describing what works here. NOTES If a MIME message is forwarded using a non-MIME compliant mailer, its MIME encoding will not be recognized. To fix this, save the message as a file and edit the file. Look for the first Content-Type: mail header, and copy that header into the first "paragraph" of mail headers, somewhere after its first line. (Then use munpack.) Hope this helps, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 24 08:28:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28303; Sat, 24 Jun 95 08:28:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29781; Sat, 24 Jun 95 08:17:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29775; Sat, 24 Jun 95 08:17:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPWn1-00038TC; Sat, 24 Jun 95 08:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: natkin@clark.net (Todd Natkin) Subject: Custom Reply-Text Header? Date: 24 Jun 1995 01:19:03 GMT Message-Id: <3sfp67$38q@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, Is it possible in pine to automatically have a =customized= Reply-Quoted-Text header [or whatever it is called] instead of the default: "On Fri, 23 Jun 1995, wrote:" Thanks. /Todd Natkin natkin@clark.net ======================================================================== Please "finger -l natkin@clark.net" for PGP public key & WWW home page ======================================================================== -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 24 08:28:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28320; Sat, 24 Jun 95 08:28:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27759; Sat, 24 Jun 95 08:17:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27753; Sat, 24 Jun 95 08:17:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPWqr-00038VC; Sat, 24 Jun 95 08:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aspicer%aksi.net@aksi.net Subject: Pine under Linux 1.1.59 - Folder Lock/Readonly Date: 24 Jun 1995 01:18:59 GMT Message-Id: <3sfp63$31q@wn.aksi.net> Sorry if this is a FAQ, I run Pine under Linux (Slackware 2.1.0) and am having a problem (that I probably cause )... Yes that dreaded "Folder is Readonly...Folder is Locked...by another Process". Nothing seems to fix this problem, which only affects regular users (not root). Shutting down and rebooting doesn't fix it, and I cannot seem to find any lock files. The man-page for "pine" (man pine) refers to: Per Folder Lock Files: /tmp .\usr\spool\mail\**** (sorry if I am a complete idiot, but I don't even understand this convention of referring to a file with the slashes going in the other direction??? What does that mean? I don't find any files other than the mail files for each username in /usr/spool/mail (symbolic link to /var/spool/mail)... and I don't understand what is meant by this switch in *slashes*. Isn't that DOS type slashes ?) Any help would be appreciated! As I mentioned - I probably did something stupid as root (ooops! Sysadmin BOOT CAMP here :-) ------- ---- ---- ============================== Alan Spicer -- aspicer@aksi.net, aspicer@satelnet.org http://www1.aksi.net/~aspicer http://www.satelnet.org/~aspicer BBS3059387088Linux3059383047 ============================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 24 08:47:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28893; Sat, 24 Jun 95 08:47:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29979; Sat, 24 Jun 95 08:35:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29973; Sat, 24 Jun 95 08:35:26 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id LAA07930; Sat, 24 Jun 1995 11:34:22 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id LAA26528; Sat, 24 Jun 1995 11:34:19 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA13963; Sat, 24 Jun 95 11:32:54 EDT Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 11:32:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: "S.T. Wong" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pls help: Use Pine to read NFS-mounted mailbox In-Reply-To: <3sg4j2$h71@hpg30a.csc.cuhk.hk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 24 Jun 1995, S.T. Wong wrote: > Hi all, > > We're using pine 3.87 and 3.91 on HP-UX 9.0 and 9.01. Pine hangs when accessing > NFS-mounted mailboxes. I think we should use the ".lock" locking mechanism but > i'm not sure how to "enable" it. Would anyone pls help ? Pls send your > advice to st-wong@cuhk.hk. I'll post the summary. > We had to worry about locking files with cc:mail installation. There was something your had to enable in PC-NFS to enable locking. When attaching, you selected and 'advanced' option and clicked on something like enalble lock manager. (I'm not at work, so I can't be more exact. :{ Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 24 10:31:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00939; Sat, 24 Jun 95 10:31:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29319; Sat, 24 Jun 95 10:24:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29313; Sat, 24 Jun 95 10:24:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPYsh-00038IC; Sat, 24 Jun 95 10:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "H. Marc Kneppers" Subject: PC-Pine, getting a copy of mail sent Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 09:37:49 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I've got Pine and PC-Pine for Windows working. When I send a message from PC-Pine however, the mail goes to the intended recipient BUT I also get a copy of the message sent to me in my INBOX. Is this a feature or a bug? I've checked all the standard stuff (i.e., I don't have any weird forwarding going on, and the Fcc field shouldn't be causing it.) If I send the identical message from the UNIX machine using Pine, I don't get the copy, it behaves properly. ANyone experienced this before?? Any ideas? Marc Kneppers knepperm@cuug.ab.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 24 10:35:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01027; Sat, 24 Jun 95 10:35:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01161; Sat, 24 Jun 95 10:24:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01155; Sat, 24 Jun 95 10:24:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPYrP-00038HC; Sat, 24 Jun 95 10:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: webmastr@vnet.net (Webmaster) Subject: Re: *** Question : Win95 MicroSoft Exchange Date: 24 Jun 1995 17:04:35 GMT Message-Id: <3shgj3$oi8@ralph.vnet.net> References: <3sgpp2$nrb@news.service.uci.edu> XHacker (KLeung@paris.uci.edu) wrote: : Would it be possible to use MicroSoft Exhange as a Unix Dail-up : account mail client ( like Peagaus and Eudora )? The Plus Pack adds Internet POP Mail functionality to Exchange. It serves as a very nice e-mail client which even lets you preview your e-mail before you retrieve it. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 24 10:50:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01331; Sat, 24 Jun 95 10:50:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01350; Sat, 24 Jun 95 10:42:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01342; Sat, 24 Jun 95 10:42:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPZ3B-00038HC; Sat, 24 Jun 95 10:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kurt.risser@shivasys.com (Kurt) Subject: Mail Notification Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 15:20:59 GMT Message-Id: <3sem2v$c64@news.paonline.com> Hello! This may be a dumb question, but I cannot find the answer in FAQs or anywhere else... How can users be notified when someone sends them mail without having to exit the application program that they are using (like WRITE)? I note that with the standard MAILCHECK=nn system, users are only notified if they are at a shell prompt and then only after they hit ENTER. How can the users be notified of new mail in the same manner that the WRITE command interrupts application programs? Kurt Risser Snider Bolt & Screw, Inc. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 24 14:13:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04877; Sat, 24 Jun 95 14:13:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02175; Sat, 24 Jun 95 14:00:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02169; Sat, 24 Jun 95 14:00:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPcFb-00038CC; Sat, 24 Jun 95 13:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Charles Bennett Subject: Need list of freenets w. Pine Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 16:41:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a list of Freenets that use Pine? If so, how can I get a hold of it? Please reply to my e-mail address, as I'm having trouble w. my newsreader. Thanks in advance. Charlie Bennett char@grfn.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 24 20:59:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11930; Sat, 24 Jun 95 20:59:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07488; Sat, 24 Jun 95 20:46:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07482; Sat, 24 Jun 95 20:46:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPia2-00038CC; Sat, 24 Jun 95 20:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ian@rad.hcf.jhu.edu (Ian Goh) Subject: MacPine anyone? Date: 25 Jun 1995 03:04:34 GMT Message-Id: <3sijo2$ik4@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu> Hi Everyone, Does anyone know if a Macintosh version of PINE is past vapor-ware? Thanks, --- Ian --- -- **************************************************************************** Microcomputer Support Specialist E-mail: ian.goh@jhu.edu Homewood Academic Computing Work : (410) 516-8096 Johns Hopkins University FAX : (410) 516-4575 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 24 21:03:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12025; Sat, 24 Jun 95 21:03:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07188; Sat, 24 Jun 95 20:51:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07182; Sat, 24 Jun 95 20:51:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPihs-00038CC; Sat, 24 Jun 95 20:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sfg@nexus.interealm.com (Doug Johnson) Subject: Re: Creating address lists outside of pine Date: 25 Jun 1995 03:34:19 GMT Message-Id: <3silfr$b8v@nexus.interealm.com> References: <3sfdtk$9t9@park.uvsc.edu> Dan Canfield (danc@park.uvsc.edu) wrote: % I want to create a mailing list in pine, but I'd like to be able to % edit the address file outside of pine with say vi. I've got a file that % contains the email address for about 50 people. I tried bringing those % addresses into .addressbook using vi and encasing them in () with each % seperated with commas. % I do this and then save .addressbook. When I enter the address book % in pine I get a message that .addressbook.lu is invalid and I am assuming % it gets rebuilt. However, the addresses are all jumbled up and can't be % used. % Ideas? Is there a limit to the size of a mailing and is it possible to % edit the .addressbook in this way. I was able to add a single alias % address using vi, but it croked on the mailing list try. % Dan Canfield % danc@park.uvsc.edu % 89 Indy 707 % 89 FJ1200 % RP90 Dan, I did this and it does work! I think part of your problem is you don't know the format being used in the addressbook. I created one entry and then vi the addressbook. I found each field (3) were seperated by a tab. So I read my addressbook in, changed it to the format used by addressbook and then saved. I then did a sort on the addressbook just for personal desire. It worked fine. All the e-mail address I have been keeping on my pc have been intergrated into my addressbook on my ISP's box. Doug sfg@nexus.interealm.com -- WHICH WAY DID THEY GO? WHAT WERE THEY DOING? HOW MANY OF THEM WERE THERE? I NEED TO FIND THEM, I'M THEIR LEADER! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 24 21:32:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12795; Sat, 24 Jun 95 21:32:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07868; Sat, 24 Jun 95 21:26:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07862; Sat, 24 Jun 95 21:26:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPjFp-00038CC; Sat, 24 Jun 95 21:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: huggy@sundial.net (huggy@sundial.net) Subject: Attachment to Pine Date: Fri, 23 Jun 95 19:36:46 GMT Message-Id: <3sf9ec$c5l@sundial.sundial.net> Help! Is there a simple explanation (for simple folk) on how to get a file from word processing into pine and send that same document as an attachment? And knowing that, is there a simple way to learn how to get an attachment from pine into the word processor to read? Any assistance would be appreciated - I'll trade my first born son or something. Please respond as you would to a child, "You take the little mouse..." Thanks in advance, Richard huggy@sundial.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 24 21:54:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13246; Sat, 24 Jun 95 21:54:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08022; Sat, 24 Jun 95 21:51:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08016; Sat, 24 Jun 95 21:51:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPje3-00038CC; Sat, 24 Jun 95 21:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dustin@blkbox.com (Dustin Hall) Subject: Pico with pine Date: 25 Jun 1995 04:32:32 GMT Message-Id: <3siot0$koo@news.blkbox.com> Have a question. When I use pico with pine, pico works much better than any other time. When I just use pico for a file, or with elm, etc., when I scroll down a page, all the text gets all jumbled, and I have to re-draw the screen with ctrl-l every time I go down a page. However, when I'm composing a message with pine, pico behaves just fine, and I never have to redraw the screen. Any idea why this is? Does pine do something to correct this, and if so, what? I'd certainly like to know. Please email me if you've any idea, thanks. -- |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| |Dustin Hall dustin@blkbox.com | |Major U2 fan Ever confused Yes, I do have a web page :) | |Check out my home page: http://www.blkbox.com/~dustin/ | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 25 01:39:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17924; Sun, 25 Jun 95 01:39:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10743; Sun, 25 Jun 95 01:33:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10737; Sun, 25 Jun 95 01:33:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPn3q-00038CC; Sun, 25 Jun 95 01:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: h9397584@hkusua (Michael Agelasto) Subject: Re: addressbook problem on SunOS4 -- long lists Message-Id: References: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 08:26:37 GMT PINE seems to hate long lists. I tried to send to a list of 500+ and we got no result. The To: line was self-addressed and we never received it. The list was included in bcc and we got no error message but none of the intended recipients received the mail. Subsequently, we divided the list into 9 sections and mail was successfully delivered and we got bounced mail messages, etc. We now use Solaris 2.x which seems to hate long lists. We once used Sun OS4.x and lists of several hundred were ok. -- ===================================================================== Michael Agelasto Phone: (852) 2858-1914 Department of Education (852) 2549-5678 (res) University of Hong Kong Fax: (852) 2857-9279 Hong Kong email: michael@hkusub.hku.hk http://www.hku.hk/educ/michael.htm ===================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 25 04:14:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21332; Sun, 25 Jun 95 04:14:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13298; Sun, 25 Jun 95 04:09:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13292; Sun, 25 Jun 95 04:09:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPpVB-00038CC; Sun, 25 Jun 95 04:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ac200@ccn.cs.dal.ca (Robert E Adams) Subject: Re: alternate signature in pine for unix Message-Id: References: <9506222136.AA11736@ollie.uwec.edu> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 10:59:38 GMT Brian O'Shaughnessy (oshaugbj@uwec.edu) wrote: : Is there a way to have multiple signatures (or at least two) and attach a : specific signature to a specific message? For example, I would like a : signature that has my full name, email name and department for local use, : and a second signature with my full name, email name and full work address : on messages to go out over the internet to 'out of town' recipients. -- I use Pine on a provider's Unix system, and insert sigs manually for each message. I have more than one signature, and have placed each in a little file called aasig or ihsig, something easy to remember and easy to type. Each sig file is placed in my home directory. I left the file Signature empty so it will not automatically place something else in the message. At the end of my message I press ^r and type the sig name, and it pops into the message. Bob, %% Bob Adams ac200@ccn.cs.dal.ca %%%%% HRD %%%%%%%% PUB REL %%%%%% % Adams Assoc (902) 456-0761 % TRAINING DACUM % % adams@ra.isisnet.ca % EDITING HTML % % Inexpensive services % GRAPHICS GAME ANIMS ART % % provided over the internet % Space LEASING Real Est PROFORMAS % %%%%%%%%%%% http://www.ccn.cs.dal.ca/~ac200/adams.html %%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Visit my home page for CIAU Mens Basketball From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 25 04:39:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21928; Sun, 25 Jun 95 04:39:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13601; Sun, 25 Jun 95 04:33:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from actcom.co.il by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13595; Sun, 25 Jun 95 04:32:47 -0700 Received: from galtronics.UUCP by actcom.co.il with UUCPgaltronics (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id OAA09185 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sun, 25 Jun 1995 14:12:21 +0300 (rfc931-sender: uucp@localhost) Received: by aviion.galtronics.co.il (5.4R2.10/ACTCOM-GALTRONICS-S-1.0) id AA02368; Sun, 25 Jun 1995 10:41:40 GMT Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 10:41:40 +0000 (GMT) From: Aladdin Khamis To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine.conf & pine.info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anybody know about placing a pine.conf file in the /usr/local/lib directory because in my .pine-debug? files I get: Debug output of the Pine program (at debug level 2). Version 3.91 Thu Jun 22 10:09:22 1995 reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf" Open failed: No such file or directory reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed" Open failed: No such file or directory and how about pine.conf.fixed, what is that all about? Sincerely, Aladdin Khamis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 25 04:51:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22251; Sun, 25 Jun 95 04:51:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13790; Sun, 25 Jun 95 04:47:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from actcom.co.il by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13778; Sun, 25 Jun 95 04:47:33 -0700 Received: from galtronics.UUCP by actcom.co.il with UUCPgaltronics (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id OAA09153; Sun, 25 Jun 1995 14:11:58 +0300 (rfc931-sender: uucp@localhost) Received: by aviion.galtronics.co.il (5.4R2.10/ACTCOM-GALTRONICS-S-1.0) id AA02347; Sun, 25 Jun 1995 10:35:50 GMT Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 10:35:50 +0000 (GMT) From: Aladdin Khamis To: Joe DeBiso Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Need pine binaries for DG/UX PLEASE!!! In-Reply-To: <3sbptm$19t@jubjub.wizard.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 22 Jun 1995, Joe DeBiso wrote: >Does anybody have the binaries for pine on DG/UX that they would like to >share?? > > >Please let me know ASAP!! > >Thanx in advance! > >Joe DeBiso > what version of DG/UX you have, I have 5.4.1 and 5.4R2.10. Al From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 25 07:41:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24912; Sun, 25 Jun 95 07:41:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14722; Sun, 25 Jun 95 07:39:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14716; Sun, 25 Jun 95 07:39:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPsgO-00038UC; Sun, 25 Jun 95 07:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Charles Bennett Subject: Can't delete mailbox Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 13:23:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I can't delete any of my messages because I've exceeded the storage limit on my freenet. The pine commands delete and expunge don't work. Can any of you make a suggestion? Please respond to my e-mail address, as I don't have the chance to check out USENET as much as I should. Thanks in advance. Charlie Bennett char@grfn.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 25 11:42:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29495; Sun, 25 Jun 95 11:42:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17237; Sun, 25 Jun 95 11:38:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17231; Sun, 25 Jun 95 11:38:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPwWy-00038IC; Sun, 25 Jun 95 11:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jlbrown@universe.digex.net (Blue Falcon) Subject: Re: Mail forwarding in pine [on VMS system]. Date: 25 Jun 1995 18:23:34 GMT Message-Id: <3sk9j6$it4@news3.digex.net> References: <3p36fl$11p@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx> Larry Miller [DT] (lmiller@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx) wrote: : ESPINOZA JAIME C (e0f8et4k@tuzo.erin) wrote: : > Quick question.. I just want to know the precise format : > to use in the .forward file for forwarding messages to another : > location. I know it is simply one line, but like most things.. : make it the full email address of where you want your mail forwarded I need to forward my mail from a VMS machine. I created the .forward file with the address I wanted my mail forwarded to in it, but it's not doing anything. What should I be doing different? ======================================================================== | J.L. Brown | jlbrown@universe.digex.net - jlbrown@sunbelt.net | | Blue Falcon | http://www.universe.digex.net/~jlbrown | | Virginia Tech | http://sfbox.vt.edu:10021/J/jbrown/WEB/index.html | ======================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 25 11:43:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29535; Sun, 25 Jun 95 11:43:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19030; Sun, 25 Jun 95 11:38:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19024; Sun, 25 Jun 95 11:38:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sPwR0-00038HC; Sun, 25 Jun 95 11:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jlbrown@universe.digex.net (Blue Falcon) Subject: Pine on DEC ALPHA machine Date: 25 Jun 1995 18:18:30 GMT Message-Id: <3sk99m$it4@news3.digex.net> I need help installing Pine on a DEC ALPHA machine. It's a pretty ancient system that can't really do much of anything. Would appreciate any help on this. -- ======================================================================== | J.L. Brown | jlbrown@universe.digex.net - jlbrown@sunbelt.net | | Blue Falcon | http://www.universe.digex.net/~jlbrown | | Virginia Tech | http://sfbox.vt.edu:10021/J/jbrown/WEB/index.html | ======================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 25 21:19:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09936; Sun, 25 Jun 95 21:19:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26809; Sun, 25 Jun 95 21:09:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26803; Sun, 25 Jun 95 21:09:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQ5N9-00038IC; Sun, 25 Jun 95 21:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: korenman@umbc.edu (Joan Korenman) Subject: Re: customized-hdrs, the real story! Date: 26 Jun 1995 00:00:48 -0400 Message-Id: <3slbdg$l42@umbc7.umbc.edu> References: In article , Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq wrote: > ... it really doesn't make much sense to have superflous >'Reply-to:' identical to the 'From:' address... I use Reply-to headers frequently when I send messages to email lists. Many lists are set up so that the reply automatically goes back to the list. When I want to be sure that the replies come to me rather than cluttering up the email list (e.g., if I offer to send people a file, or I want to post a questionnaire), I put a Reply-to header that directs the reply to me rather than to the list (the last thing most lists need are 50 "please send me your file" messages). If in fact Pine doesn't permit the Reply-to address to be the same as the From address, I think that's an error that should be corrected in the next version. (This may not be critical for people using Pine to reply, but MANY mail systems don't give people a choice of addresses to reply to.) Joan Korenman (korenman@umbc.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 26 04:52:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20072; Mon, 26 Jun 95 04:52:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03430; Mon, 26 Jun 95 04:37:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from zodiac.unl.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03424; Mon, 26 Jun 95 04:37:25 -0700 Received: by zodiac.unl.ac.uk (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA26763; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 12:37:24 +0100 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 12:37:24 +0100 From: cwf@zodiac.unl.ac.uk (Clifford) Message-Id: <9506261137.AA26763@zodiac.unl.ac.uk> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: customized-hdrs, the real story! Content-Length: 1446 I haven't tried it but but wouldnt it solve the problem if you used a mail alias in the Reply-To: field? -------------------------------------------------------------- In article , Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq wrote: > ... it really doesn't make much sense to have superflous >'Reply-to:' identical to the 'From:' address... I use Reply-to headers frequently when I send messages to email lists. Many lists are set up so that the reply automatically goes back to the list. When I want to be sure that the replies come to me rather than cluttering up the email list (e.g., if I offer to send people a file, or I want to post a questionnaire), I put a Reply-to header that directs the reply to me rather than to the list (the last thing most lists need are 50 "please send me your file" messages). If in fact Pine doesn't permit the Reply-to address to be the same as the From address, I think that's an error that should be corrected in the next version. (This may not be critical for people using Pine to reply, but MANY mail systems don't give people a choice of addresses to reply to.) Joan Korenman (korenman@umbc.edu) Clifford W Fulford University of North London CLMS-UNIX development E-mail: Clifford@zodiac.unl.ac.uk Clifford@compulink.co.uk C.Fulford@unl.ac.uk Telephone: 071-607-2789 x 7314. Home 081-986-5239 #v From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 26 07:52:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23936; Mon, 26 Jun 95 07:52:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00575; Mon, 26 Jun 95 07:42:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.bridgeway.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00569; Mon, 26 Jun 95 07:42:44 -0700 Received: from server.bridgeway.com ([204.57.180.3]) by server.bridgeway.com with SMTP id <207703>; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 07:42:46 -0700 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 07:42:27 -0700 From: Andrew Le To: Ian Goh Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: MacPine anyone? In-Reply-To: <3sijo2$ik4@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've been waiting for a Macintosh (or Power Macintosh) version of Pine since the beginning of time, but to no avail... :( You'll have to use a Mac-specific appl, such as Eudora, etc... ================================================================== Andrew Le support@server.bridgeway.com Bridgeway Corporation 206-881-4270 Bridging the Gap in Network Mgt. 206-861-1774 fax ================================================================== On Sat, 24 Jun 1995, Ian Goh wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Does anyone know if a Macintosh version of PINE is past vapor-ware? > > Thanks, > > --- Ian --- > -- > **************************************************************************** > Microcomputer Support Specialist E-mail: ian.goh@jhu.edu > Homewood Academic Computing Work : (410) 516-8096 > Johns Hopkins University FAX : (410) 516-4575 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 26 08:28:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25445; Mon, 26 Jun 95 08:28:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06743; Mon, 26 Jun 95 08:18:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06737; Mon, 26 Jun 95 08:18:28 -0700 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA21797; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 11:19:31 +0500 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 11:19:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip Old X-Sender: fold@mail To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine.conf & pine.info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1802 On Sun, 25 Jun 1995, Aladdin Khamis wrote: > Does anybody know about placing a pine.conf file in the /usr/local/lib > directory because in my .pine-debug? files I get: > > Debug output of the Pine program (at debug level 2). Version 3.91 > Thu Jun 22 10:09:22 1995 > > reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf" > Open failed: No such file or directory > reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed" > Open failed: No such file or directory This can mean several things: Pine was installed from the pre-compiled binary, which looks for the .conf files in /usr/local/lib (as opposed to being compiled on your system with some other location specified). And/or /user/local/lib doesn't exist on your machine. And/or /usr/local/lib exists, but the .conf files aren't there. Same thing happened here, where I used the pre-compiled binaries due to too many problems trying to compile Pine 2.91 from the source code under Solaris 2.3. I had to create /usr/local/lib, then create the .conf files from scratch. > and how about pine.conf.fixed, what is that all about? pine.conf and pine.conf.fixed are both systemwide default configuration files. The settings in pine.conf can be overridden by individual users via the "CS" command (or by manually editing .pinerc). The settings in pine.conf.fixed are "fixed", i.e. they theoretically can't be overridden by individual users. I say "theoretically" because some of them apparently _can_ be overridden under somew circumstances. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 26 10:06:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29833; Mon, 26 Jun 95 10:06:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03481; Mon, 26 Jun 95 09:53:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03475; Mon, 26 Jun 95 09:53:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQHOV-00038HC; Mon, 26 Jun 95 09:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhenselm@inter.NL.net (Johan Henselmans) Subject: Re: Building PINE 3.91 on Solaris 2.4? Message-Id: References: <3sbefo$le@news.uni-c.dk> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 12:48:28 GMT Marc Andersen SFE writes: >I managed to compile Pine on Solaris 2.4 using gcc 2.6.3. >The compilation was succesfull when I included a > -DANSI >in the compiler options in the makefile. Where did you add that? In the build shell? Or in any subdirectory of the root of pine3.91? I don't seem to get it to work with sol2.4. I get an error somewhere later, with a rename redefinition. Any idea? In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:46, from headers.h:78, from addrbook.c:65: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/unistd.h:225: conflicting types for `rename' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/stdio.h:153: previous declaration of `rename' *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `addrbook.o' From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 26 10:39:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01287; Mon, 26 Jun 95 10:39:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04068; Mon, 26 Jun 95 10:23:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04062; Mon, 26 Jun 95 10:23:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQHqH-00038CC; Mon, 26 Jun 95 10:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simone@crash.cts.com (Simone Shoemaker) Subject: Mail question-please help! Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 01:52:53 GMT Message-Id: Here's what I'd like to do: I would like to edit a file somewhere and then be able to recall this text and send it as a message to someone, or several people, whenever I like. Can anybody tell me how to do this? Please try to explain in as simple terms as you can find, I'm not real good yet with my programs. (My biggest achievement so far has been to edit myself a signature file...) Please respond by e-mail. Thanks!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 26 10:42:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01404; Mon, 26 Jun 95 10:42:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09760; Mon, 26 Jun 95 10:23:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09754; Mon, 26 Jun 95 10:23:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQHn2-00038LC; Mon, 26 Jun 95 10:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dave@tamos.gmu.edu (david e. storey) Subject: PGP & Pine Date: 24 Jun 1995 01:28:24 GMT Message-Id: <3sfpno$31b@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone found a found a way to incorporate PGP and Pine v3.91? I do not want to store my Password in the configuration file of PGP. If I pipe an encrypted message to PGP, I must enter the password, however, Pine doesn't let me see any messages regarding entering pass phrases from PGP... -Dave Storey. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I had spent so much time... I rejoiced, the day it finally worked. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 26 11:05:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02253; Mon, 26 Jun 95 11:05:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04618; Mon, 26 Jun 95 10:48:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04612; Mon, 26 Jun 95 10:48:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQICg-00038EC; Mon, 26 Jun 95 10:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lkaatz@cris.com (Lorene Kaatz) Subject: Auto forward mail Date: 26 Jun 1995 17:36:15 GMT Message-Id: <3smr6f$3tg@warp.cris.com> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 26 11:08:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02461; Mon, 26 Jun 95 11:08:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10398; Mon, 26 Jun 95 10:48:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10392; Mon, 26 Jun 95 10:48:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQI6h-00038CC; Mon, 26 Jun 95 10:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aspicer%aksi.net@aksi.net Subject: Re: Pine - Folder Lock/Readonly Date: 26 Jun 1995 03:44:32 GMT Message-Id: <3slaf0$cbj@wn.aksi.net> References: <3sfp63$31q@wn.aksi.net> * * I never heard from anybody on this, someone must have encountered this Folder Lock/Read Only problem on some platform ? I still have been unable to find the problem. (read below) cannot find lockfiles, and cannot find anything obvious to me (permissions, etc... wrong). Any help Appreciated! Email To: aspicer@aksi.net In <3sfp63$31q@wn.aksi.net>, aspicer@aksi.net@aksi.net writes: >Sorry if this is a FAQ, I run Pine under Linux (Slackware 2.1.0) and am having >a problem (that I probably cause )... > >Yes that dreaded "Folder is Readonly...Folder is Locked...by another Process". >Nothing seems to fix this problem, which only affects regular users (not root). > >Shutting down and rebooting doesn't fix it, and I cannot seem to find any >lock files. The man-page for "pine" (man pine) refers to: > >Per Folder Lock Files: /tmp .\usr\spool\mail\**** > >(sorry if I am a complete idiot, but I don't even understand this convention of > referring to a file with the slashes going in the other direction??? > What does that mean? I don't find any files other than the mail files for each > username in /usr/spool/mail (symbolic link to /var/spool/mail)... and I don't > understand what is meant by this switch in *slashes*. Isn't that DOS type > slashes ?) > >Any help would be appreciated! As I mentioned - I probably did something >stupid as root (ooops! Sysadmin BOOT CAMP here :-) > ------- ---- ---- > ============================== >Alan Spicer -- aspicer@aksi.net, aspicer@satelnet.org > http://www1.aksi.net/~aspicer > http://www.satelnet.org/~aspicer > BBS3059387088Linux3059383047 > ============================== > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 26 11:20:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02928; Mon, 26 Jun 95 11:20:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10724; Mon, 26 Jun 95 11:03:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10718; Mon, 26 Jun 95 11:03:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQIPu-00038CC; Mon, 26 Jun 95 10:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Dos Version Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 11:53:25 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have received a query which I cannot answer: what is the lowest version of DOS acceptable to PC-PINE? ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 26 11:58:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04905; Mon, 26 Jun 95 11:58:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05293; Mon, 26 Jun 95 11:23:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05285; Mon, 26 Jun 95 11:23:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQIk4-00038CC; Mon, 26 Jun 95 11:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chivas@sfu.ca (Jim Chivas) Subject: setting up pop servers Date: 26 Jun 1995 18:02:18 GMT Message-Id: <3smsna$9rk@seymour.sfu.ca> Greetings: I would like to know what I have to setup to get a pop server working. I have the following configuration. Currently I have three machines for my users to login to. One of these machines is my smtp server. This smtp server routes ALL e-mail to the correct user based on a alias file on it. I have done this so that all e-mail has one domain address that does not include the hosts name. This makes it more flexible if I have to move users home directories to other machines. Their e-mail will not have to be changed. My question is: do I need to create a pop server on each actual machine the users login to or can I have the same smtp machine also be my pop server. I need to know what to tell the users when they configure software like eudora and it asks for the address of the pop server. Thanks for any advice. Jim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 26 12:32:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06317; Mon, 26 Jun 95 12:32:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06247; Mon, 26 Jun 95 12:05:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06226; Mon, 26 Jun 95 12:05:12 -0700 Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-4 #2001) id <01HS5TCCM0ZU8ZDYEB@INNOSOFT.COM>; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 12:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 12:04:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Portia Shao Subject: Re: Mail forwarding in pine [on VMS system]. In-Reply-To: <3sk9j6$it4@news3.digex.net> To: Blue Falcon Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT On Sun, 25 Jun 1995, Blue Falcon wrote: > Larry Miller [DT] (lmiller@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx) wrote: > : ESPINOZA JAIME C (e0f8et4k@tuzo.erin) wrote: > > : > Quick question.. I just want to know the precise format > : > to use in the .forward file for forwarding messages to another > : > location. I know it is simply one line, but like most things.. > > : make it the full email address of where you want your mail forwarded > > > I need to forward my mail from a VMS machine. I created the .forward > file with the address I wanted my mail forwarded to in it, but it's not > doing anything. What should I be doing different? on VMS, you get into VMS MAIL with the MAIL command, and then type SET FORWARD newaddress note that the newaddress may be of may formats: NODE::name "IN%""user@system.name""" "SMTP%""user@system.name""" depending on how mail gets to your new system. > > ======================================================================== > | J.L. Brown | jlbrown@universe.digex.net - jlbrown@sunbelt.net | > | Blue Falcon | http://www.universe.digex.net/~jlbrown | > | Virginia Tech | http://sfbox.vt.edu:10021/J/jbrown/WEB/index.html | > ======================================================================== > /portia portia@innosoft.com Innosoft International Inc. (818)919-3600 voice, (818)919-3614 fax 1050 East Garvey Ave South, West Covina, CA 91790 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 26 13:27:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08633; Mon, 26 Jun 95 13:27:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13956; Mon, 26 Jun 95 13:08:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gate1.internet-eireann.ie by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13950; Mon, 26 Jun 95 13:08:12 -0700 Received: from dakota.internet-eireann.iedakota.internet-eireann.ie (dakota.internet-eireann.ie [194.9.32.106]) by gate1.internet-eireann.ie (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA05002; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 21:08:28 +0100 Received: from dakota by dakota.internet-eireann.iedakota.internet-eireann.ie (5.4R3.10/5.40/1.0) id AA09828; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 15:22:31 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 15:22:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Feargal Ledwidge X-Sender: feargal@dakota To: "Brian O'Shaughnessy" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: alternate signature in pine for unix In-Reply-To: <9506222136.AA11736@ollie.uwec.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 22 Jun 1995, Brian O'Shaughnessy wrote: > Is there a way to have multiple signatures (or at least two) and attach a > specific signature to a specific message? For example, I would like a > signature that has my full name, email name and department for local use, > and a second signature with my full name, email name and full work address > on messages to go out over the internet to 'out of town' recipients. > > THe best way to do this is to create 2 or more signature files and use ^r to read them into your message. Feargal -------------------------------------------------------------------- Feargal Ledwidge UNIX Systems Administration Dakota Packaging Ltd Unit 8, Airways Industrial Estate, Dublin 17, Ireland Voice: 01-830-0000 (Office) 088-504-520 (Mobile) Mail: feargal@dakota.internet-eireann.ie (Office) feargal@ambar.internet-eireann.ie (Home) World-Wide-Web: http://www.internet-eireann.ie/ambar-www/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 26 13:33:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09003; Mon, 26 Jun 95 13:33:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13693; Mon, 26 Jun 95 13:04:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13680; Mon, 26 Jun 95 13:04:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQKIR-00038HC; Mon, 26 Jun 95 12:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: skgupta@utrecht.lcs.mit.edu (Sandeep K. Gupta) Subject: Forwarded messages to me become two messages Date: 26 Jun 1995 17:00:54 GMT Message-Id: <3smp46$rbd@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Sometimes, when someone forwards a message to me, ============================================= >From xxx@yyy.edu Mon Jun 26 00:45:22 1995
X-Status: Forwarded message: >From zzz@aaa.edu Mon May 8 16:35:13 1995 Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 16:56:46 -0400 X-Status: ============================================= my pine takes this as two messages since I guess there is no ">" in front of the second "From" line. Is this a problem with my pine? If so, how do I fix it? Thanks -- Sandeep -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Sandeep K. Gupta (skgupta@mit.edu) Graduate Student Laboratory for Computer Science Massachusetts Institute of Technology From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 26 14:04:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10395; Mon, 26 Jun 95 14:04:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14855; Mon, 26 Jun 95 13:47:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14849; Mon, 26 Jun 95 13:47:09 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14791; Mon, 26 Jun 95 13:46:24 -0700 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 13:46:16 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Michael Agelasto Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: addressbook problem on SunOS4 -- long lists In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- This is almost certainly a problem with the mail transport and not Pine. Sendmail is known to have problems when its internal buffers overflow and other MTAs may have similar problems... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 25 Jun 1995, Michael Agelasto wrote: > PINE seems to hate long lists. I tried to send to a list of 500+ and we > got no result. The To: line was self-addressed and we never received it. > The list was included in bcc and we got no error message but none of the > intended recipients received the mail. Subsequently, we divided the list > into 9 sections and mail was successfully delivered and we got bounced > mail messages, etc. We now use Solaris 2.x which seems to hate long > lists. We once used Sun OS4.x and lists of several hundred were ok. > > -- > ===================================================================== > Michael Agelasto Phone: (852) 2858-1914 > Department of Education (852) 2549-5678 (res) > University of Hong Kong Fax: (852) 2857-9279 > Hong Kong email: michael@hkusub.hku.hk > http://www.hku.hk/educ/michael.htm > ===================================================================== > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL+8cnd/IU4uTDdHNAQEPuAH/Yv774pFwDOL79ApkA+3V31cMJWWk2u8L pgdepp5SnHpw5b/zFtwGxqtpYv6bnssDu9HjVMklRYz1eJMMdMYjOw== =d37A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 26 14:15:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10920; Mon, 26 Jun 95 14:15:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15230; Mon, 26 Jun 95 13:59:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tequesta.gate.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15224; Mon, 26 Jun 95 13:59:50 -0700 Received: from seminole.gate.net (egruvman@seminole.gate.net [199.227.0.14]) by tequesta.gate.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA23565 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:58:38 -0400 Received: (from egruvman@localhost) by seminole.gate.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA86656; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:57:11 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:57:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Eduardo Gruvman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: printer problem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm not sure why everytime I need to print from pine, the font size I get is so large as to losing as much as a quarter of a page. 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From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 26 14:36:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11906; Mon, 26 Jun 95 14:36:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15633; Mon, 26 Jun 95 14:18:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15627; Mon, 26 Jun 95 14:18:00 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15535; Mon, 26 Jun 95 14:17:57 -0700 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 14:17:47 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jeff Victor , "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Listing unsubscribed Newsgroups In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 23 Jun 1995, Jeff Victor wrote: > Apology-in-advance if this is covered in the FAQ - I haven't found the > FAQ yet... > > > Q: What should "news-collections" be set to for new Pine users? > > Context: > We've been running Pine 3.91 here for awhile (THANK YOU for creating and > updating it - great software, "Just Works", even with NIS+, multiple mail > servers, and non-standard sendmail config) and recently started running > NetNews. > > I'm trying to decide what their default .pinerc should have for > "news-collections". If you set "nntp-server" to the name of your NNTP server and leave "news-collections" blank, Pine will use an appropriate default for news-collections. For a system-wide default, set this in the /usr/local/lib/pine.conf file. There should not be any need to create default .pinerc files, Pine will do that the first time each user runs it. > I think the reasonable choices are "News" (list all > groups) or "Subscribed-Groups" (just list the ones to which they're > subscribed). > I'm not sure what you mean here. The name of a news-collection has nothing to do with what is subscribed or which newsgroups are listed. Pine will always list only the groups marked as subscribed in the user's .newsrc file, regardless of the name of the collection. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL+8kAt/IU4uTDdHNAQH6/AIAsdnXsqnA3w23ZQR0cCoWK7GIqi0GuCpx nBsLqWLjKHSiImXMssokICFbqgnJE8oo6WcvWpSKB5H4GnkMw6mU8Q== =GUWk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 26 15:11:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13186; Mon, 26 Jun 95 15:11:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16409; Mon, 26 Jun 95 14:50:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16403; Mon, 26 Jun 95 14:50:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQLxj-00038EC; Mon, 26 Jun 95 14:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jim@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Jim Ennis) Subject: addressbook view problem Date: 26 Jun 1995 21:11:20 GMT Message-Id: <3sn7po$85e@news.cc.ucf.edu> Hello, We are running Pine 3.91 under Solaris 2.4. We have had no problems with Pine until today. For no good reason (using old pine binary and old pine.conf file), the addresses in the addressbook screen only show the one word nickname. The full name and email fields are not being displayed. I don't know what has changed with my system, but I would appreciate any tips on how to fix this problem. I would like to see all of the address information on the screen when I use work with the addressbook file. -- Jim Ennis | jim@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu Systems Administrator | (407) 823-1701 | Fax: (407) 823-5476 University of Central Florida | "Math is like a religion. | You have to believe that 2+2=4." - Calvin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 26 15:16:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13446; Mon, 26 Jun 95 15:16:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16474; Mon, 26 Jun 95 14:53:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16468; Mon, 26 Jun 95 14:53:41 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16988; Mon, 26 Jun 95 14:53:36 -0700 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 14:53:19 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Simone Shoemaker Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Mail question-please help! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Well, you passed the biggest hurdle. Just edit the text the same way you created the signature file, then start Composing, fill in the headers (To:, Subject:, etc) and press ^R in the body of the message. You will be prompted to enter the name of the file you edited... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 26 Jun 1995, Simone Shoemaker wrote: > Here's what I'd like to do: I would like to edit a file somewhere and > then be able to recall this text and send it as a message to someone, > or several people, whenever I like. > > Can anybody tell me how to do this? > Please try to explain in as simple terms as you can find, I'm not real > good yet with my programs. (My biggest achievement so far has been to > edit myself a signature file...) > > Please respond by e-mail. > Thanks!! > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL+8sXd/IU4uTDdHNAQENagIA1GRr6MbwwCcGKC8ru03l05L0iE4PGt0u 3lWNLmgx3BUmhQsEfjXtiKgFXRtFzEqbSq/aEiyaKmWkVH1f3QNYYg== =PTi1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 26 16:31:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16380; Mon, 26 Jun 95 16:31:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11225; Mon, 26 Jun 95 16:12:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.grfn.org by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11219; Mon, 26 Jun 95 16:12:05 -0700 Received: from freenet.grfn.org by grfn.ORG (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29844; Mon, 26 Jun 95 19:09:13 EDT Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 19:09:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Bennett To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 26 17:46:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19259; Mon, 26 Jun 95 17:46:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12582; Mon, 26 Jun 95 17:25:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12576; Mon, 26 Jun 95 17:25:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQONy-00038CC; Mon, 26 Jun 95 17:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sfg@nexus.interealm.com (Doug Johnson) Subject: Re: Pine - Folder Lock/Readonly Date: 26 Jun 1995 14:14:14 GMT Message-Id: <3smfbm$t0o@nexus.interealm.com> References: <3sfp63$31q@wn.aksi.net> <3slaf0$cbj@wn.aksi.net> I had this happen to me once. What had happened is I had more than one pine session running at a time and the first had control of the folder. I exited both and still could not get control back till I killed the pid. Good luck. Doug sfg@nexus.interealm.com aspicer@aksi.net@aksi.net wrote: % * * I never heard from anybody on this, someone must have encountered this % Folder Lock/Read Only problem on some platform ? I still have been % unable to find the problem. (read below) cannot find lockfiles, and % cannot find anything obvious to me (permissions, etc... wrong). % Any help Appreciated! Email To: aspicer@aksi.net % In <3sfp63$31q@wn.aksi.net>, aspicer@aksi.net@aksi.net writes: % >Sorry if this is a FAQ, I run Pine under Linux (Slackware 2.1.0) and am having % >a problem (that I probably cause )... % > % >Yes that dreaded "Folder is Readonly...Folder is Locked...by another Process". % >Nothing seems to fix this problem, which only affects regular users (not root). % > % >Shutting down and rebooting doesn't fix it, and I cannot seem to find any % >lock files. The man-page for "pine" (man pine) refers to: % > % >Per Folder Lock Files: /tmp .\usr\spool\mail\**** % > % >(sorry if I am a complete idiot, but I don't even understand this convention of % > referring to a file with the slashes going in the other direction??? % > What does that mean? I don't find any files other than the mail files for each % > username in /usr/spool/mail (symbolic link to /var/spool/mail)... and I don't % > understand what is meant by this switch in *slashes*. Isn't that DOS type % > slashes ?) % > % >Any help would be appreciated! As I mentioned - I probably did something % >stupid as root (ooops! Sysadmin BOOT CAMP here :-) % > ------- ---- ---- % > ============================== % >Alan Spicer -- aspicer@aksi.net, aspicer@satelnet.org % > http://www1.aksi.net/~aspicer % > http://www.satelnet.org/~aspicer % > BBS3059387088Linux3059383047 % > ============================== % > -- WHICH WAY DID THEY GO? WHAT WERE THEY DOING? HOW MANY OF THEM WERE THERE? I NEED TO FIND THEM, I'M THEIR LEADER! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 26 17:55:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19681; Mon, 26 Jun 95 17:55:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20280; Mon, 26 Jun 95 17:42:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20272; Mon, 26 Jun 95 17:42:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQOcE-00038QC; Mon, 26 Jun 95 17:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rross@lang1.langara.bc.ca (Ron Ross) Subject: Re: Procmail and ? Date: 26 Jun 1995 18:35:56 GMT Message-Id: <3smumc$isr@vcc7.vcc.bc.ca> References: Sean Timm (sct2m@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU) wrote: : Could soumeone post a sample procmail file set up for filtering : messages. I have tried using procmail with pine and I have failed : miserably. Help would be greatly appreciated. Hi Sean, The following .procmailrc file splits my mail up into several mailboxes in my home directory. The .forward file is what causes procmail to be invoked. I've also included my .pinerc modifications to access these new mailboxes. Hope this helps... ------- .forward file ------------------------------------------------ "|IFS=' ' && exec /u/rross/bin/procmail -f-||exit 75 #rross" ------- .procmailrc file --------------------------------------------- MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/from VERBOSE=OFF # # SCT Mailing Lists # :0: * ^From.*sctcorp | formail -ds >> /u/rross/Mail/banner # # Underwater Photo Mailing List # :0: * ^From.*uw-photo uw-photo # # Winsock Digest Mailing List # :0: * ^From.*winsock | formail -ds >> /u/rross/Mail/winsock # ----- .pinerc file ---------------------------------------------------- # Updated by Pine(tm) 3.89, copyright 1989-1993 University of Washington. # # Pine configuration file -- customize as needed. # [SNIP] # inbox-path specifies the name/path/location of your INBOX. Example: # inbox-path={carson.u.washington.edu}inbox (INBOX on a remote computer) # Normal Unix default is the local INBOX (usually /user/spool/mail/$USER) inbox-path=/u/rross/Mail/mbox ###################### Collections, Folders, and Files ##################### # incoming-folders are those other than INBOX that receive new messages. # Folder syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-hostname}folder-path # Use only if you filter incoming email into multiple files or receive # email on several different machines. # Example: # incoming-folders=Consulting {carson.u.washington.edu}filter/to-help, # Widget-Project {carson.u.washington.edu}filter/to-widget, # Old-Student-Acct {imap.berkeley.edu}inbox incoming-folders=Banner /u/rross/Mail/banner, Photo /u/rross/Mail/uw-photo, Winsock /u/rross/Mail/winsock ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ___ Oo .:/ (___)o_o ,,///;, ,;/ //====--//(_) o:::::::;;/// Ron Ross \\ ^ >::::::::;;\\\ ''\\\\\'" ';\ I'd rather be diving !!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 26 18:04:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19944; Mon, 26 Jun 95 18:04:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12940; Mon, 26 Jun 95 17:49:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12934; Mon, 26 Jun 95 17:49:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQOk8-00038EC; Mon, 26 Jun 95 17:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: IMAP and PC Pine for Windows questions Date: 26 Jun 1995 21:12:36 GMT Message-Id: <3sn7s4$btb@news1.wolfe.net> References: <3sn3sl$5k5@news1.wolfe.net> Here's another question: * How can I put commas in a customized header? In Unix Pine I use environment variables, e.g., $ORGANIZATION - do env variable work in PC Pine? Even if they do, I'm curious how to put commas in a customized header without using an env variable. Thanks much, Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 26 19:59:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22569; Mon, 26 Jun 95 19:59:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21961; Mon, 26 Jun 95 19:41:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21955; Mon, 26 Jun 95 19:41:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQQVB-00038CC; Mon, 26 Jun 95 19:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lkaatz@cris.com (Lorene Kaatz) Subject: Auto forward mail Date: 26 Jun 1995 17:41:44 GMT Message-Id: <3smrgo$40u@warp.cris.com> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 26 20:06:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22755; Mon, 26 Jun 95 20:06:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14471; Mon, 26 Jun 95 19:49:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14465; Mon, 26 Jun 95 19:49:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQQYt-00038HC; Mon, 26 Jun 95 19:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: IMAP and PC Pine for Windows questions Date: 26 Jun 1995 20:04:37 GMT Message-Id: <3sn3sl$5k5@news1.wolfe.net> I have a few questions about using PC Pine for Windows with a PPP connection. * When I specify the folder directory that's on my host, to be accessed with IMAP, what is the best host name to use? Both the shell (e.g., {shell.foo.com}Folders/[]) and the smtp host (e.g., {mail.foo.com}Folders/[]) work but I'm wondering which is better, or if it matters. These have different IP numbers, so they really do seem to be different. * Is it possible to have Pine running more than once? When I try to start Pine a second time by double clicking on the Pine icon, it just maximizes the already running version of Pine. I'd like to be able to run one Pine to access one host and another Pine to access another host. I realize I could use the incoming-folders and folder-collections variables to specify different hosts, but I'd like to be able to access them simultaneously. * Is there a compiled version of pcpine_w that lets you change the From header? Please post any tips you have for using PC Pine for Windows! Thanks, Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 00:10:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28019; Tue, 27 Jun 95 00:10:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25635; Tue, 27 Jun 95 00:05:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25629; Tue, 27 Jun 95 00:05:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQUgH-00038EC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 00:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sct2m@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Sean Timm) Subject: Procmail and ? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 03:45:14 GMT Could soumeone post a sample procmail file set up for filtering messages. I have tried using procmail with pine and I have failed miserably. Help would be greatly appreciated. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Sean C. Timm sct2m@fermi.clas.virginia.edu URL: http://fermi.clas.virginia.edu/~sct2m -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 01:35:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00155; Tue, 27 Jun 95 01:35:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18255; Tue, 27 Jun 95 01:25:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18249; Tue, 27 Jun 95 01:25:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQVvc-00038EC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 01:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: derby@admaix.sunydutchess.edu (Scott Derby) Subject: Where can I get a manual? Date: 27 Jun 1995 02:35:32 GMT Message-Id: <3snqpk$1ilf@admaix.sunydutchess.edu> Can someone tell me where I can get a manual for Pine (preferably a Postscript version, but plain text will do)? Thanks! Scott derby@admaix.sunydutchess.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 02:40:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01410; Tue, 27 Jun 95 02:40:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27623; Tue, 27 Jun 95 02:25:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27617; Tue, 27 Jun 95 02:25:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQWp7-00038CC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 02:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tknab@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Terry Knab) Subject: Re: Mail forwarding in pine [on VMS system]. Date: 27 Jun 1995 02:54:05 -0600 Message-Id: <3sogvd$2se@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: <3p36fl$11p@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx> <3sk9j6$it4@news3.digex.net> Blue Falcon (jlbrown@universe.digex.net) wrote: : Larry Miller [DT] (lmiller@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx) wrote: : : ESPINOZA JAIME C (e0f8et4k@tuzo.erin) wrote: : : > Quick question.. I just want to know the precise format : : > to use in the .forward file for forwarding messages to another : : > location. I know it is simply one line, but like most things.. : : make it the full email address of where you want your mail forwarded VMS is screwey in its forwarding protocals. Pine .forward doesn't work on VMS...sorry...you gotta use VMS mail for that. >From the VMS mail prompt, type: set forward " Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01583; Tue, 27 Jun 95 02:48:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18964; Tue, 27 Jun 95 02:35:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18958; Tue, 27 Jun 95 02:35:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQWy6-00038OC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 02:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: riptide@one.net (nobody) Subject: mutiple INBOX problem Date: 20 Jun 1995 02:44:33 GMT Message-Id: <3s5cmh$h8f@mail.one.net> Okeedoke, I'm still messing with mutiple INBOXes, and I still can't get it to work. Is it possible to direct mail from a certain person (ie. mail address: name@site.domain) to a specific INBOX. I did receive a helpful example for diverting mail under a certain subject heading to a specific box, but that won't work in my situation. I also tried setting up this INBOX system I was described with subject heading diverting, however, that actualy didn't work either. It seemed logical (going into .pinerc and adding an incoming_folders statement...."Blah Blah Subject" mail/blah....). However, when I had a message sent to me with the subject line, it still went to default INBOX, and when I decided to select the "blah" folder, it said folder does not exist. Then when I decided to create the folder myself with vi (just made a blank file) the folders where there, but still not having the appropriate messages sent to them, and they were also read only, which isn't good either. Well, I still would like to have mail from specific mail addresses (in this case a mailing list from a listserver) diverted to an appropriate folder. Thanks for any help.... JR From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 03:31:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02682; Tue, 27 Jun 95 03:31:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28399; Tue, 27 Jun 95 03:25:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28393; Tue, 27 Jun 95 03:25:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQXn3-00038EC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 03:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marc Andersen SFE Subject: Re: Building PINE 3.91 on Solaris 2.4? Date: 27 Jun 1995 09:42:37 GMT Message-Id: <3sojqd$eo1@balder.adm.ku.dk> References: <3sbefo$le@news.uni-c.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jhenselm@inter.NL.net (Johan Henselmans) wrote: >I don't seem to get it to work with sol2.4. Understandable, sorry I forgot to mention a change in another file. Here it goes, hopefully more succesfull. Note that I am using gcc, 2.3.3, and may have different organisation of include files that you have. Here is what I did: 0) This works only for pine, a similar problem exist for imapd. 1) Used the build script build CC=gcc sol 2) Edited the file pine/makefile.sol around line 80, by adding -DANSI, so it looks like this: # Use these for the gcc compiler # Yep, marc CC= gcc CFLAGS= -DSV4 $(OPTIMIZE) $(PROFILE) $(DEBUG) -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" -DANSI 3) Changed around line 194 from BAD: /*----------------- Are we ANSI?----------------------------------*/ BAD: /* #define ANSI /* this is an ANSI compiler */ BAD: #define const /* compiler doesn't support const */ to /*----------------- Are we ANSI? ---------------------------------------*/ /* Changed ma, using gcc which is ansi and understand const */ /* #define ANSI /* this is an ANSI compiler */ #ifndef ANSI #define const /* compiler doesn't support const */ #endif 4) In pine subdirectory make -f makefile.sol If you want to track the error down, then try in the pine directory: gcc -E -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" -c addrbook.c | grep "rename(" This is the command issued from makefile.sol. The -E option sends the preprocessor output to stdout, and grep rename searches for defintions of rename. Output is: extern int rename(const char *, const char *); extern int rename( char *, char *); Explaining > /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/unistd.h:225: > conflicting types for `rename' > /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/stdio.h:153: > previous declaration of `rename' Marc Andersen Department of Biostatistics, University of Copenhagen, Denmark e-mail ma@kubism.ku.dk, phone +45 35 32 79 04, fax +45 35 32 79 07 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 04:13:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04083; Tue, 27 Jun 95 04:13:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20023; Tue, 27 Jun 95 04:06:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20017; Tue, 27 Jun 95 04:06:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQYJy-00038HC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 03:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: glenn Subject: [Q] quick start newsgroup posting from command line Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 03:54:10 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I know that I can compose a letter from the command line using pine then the address directly following it, but is there a way that I can use the same quick compose method to post to a newsgroup? My newsgroup header is considered part of the customized-headers field and has to be invoked using ^R everytime I want to post. Is there a quicker way? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Glenn J Escudero - San Jose State University - Mechanical Engineering -- -- E-Mail: glenn@pobox.com - URL: http://www.crl.com/~escudero/home.html -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 04:56:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04941; Tue, 27 Jun 95 04:56:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29630; Tue, 27 Jun 95 04:49:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29623; Tue, 27 Jun 95 04:49:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQZ3k-00038HC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 04:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Britestar@psg.com (Britestar, Inc.) Date: 27 Jun 1995 11:25:20 GMT Message-Id: Subject: cmsg cancel <3sn4gt$8jm@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Control: cancel <3sn4gt$8jm@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 05:32:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05960; Tue, 27 Jun 95 05:32:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20873; Tue, 27 Jun 95 05:26:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20867; Tue, 27 Jun 95 05:25:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQZeU-00038CC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 05:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: benedict@netcom.com (Stewart Benedict) Subject: Pine via VT100 remote term? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 12:05:31 GMT I've setup a VT100 (possible upgraded to a VT125 by the startup screen?), as a remote terminal on my Linux system. (kernal 1.1.59). Everything works except Pine, which starts to paint the screen then just hangs and I have to kill the process from the console. Any suggestions aside from switching to Elm (which does work BTW). Thanks! Stew Benedict From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 05:43:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06135; Tue, 27 Jun 95 05:43:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00304; Tue, 27 Jun 95 05:36:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00298; Tue, 27 Jun 95 05:36:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQZq9-00038CC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 05:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Problem with berzerk mailbox handling Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 20:08:15 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3rtaap$1r1@pacer.valhalla.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3rtaap$1r1@pacer.valhalla.au> On 17 Jun 1995, John Saunders wrote: > I have a problem using pine. It seems that sendmail sometimes doesn't place > a blank line between the last message and the 'From user@host ' line > that marks the beginning of the next message. Pine is able to correctly > locate the 'From user@host ' line but it removes the last NL character > from the previous message. Thus when the message is exported or piped to a > command (e.g. when using ftpmail), the last line isn't terminated with a > NL and causes all sorts of problems. The worst is when I tag 2 messages and > pipe them to a command, the first line of the 2nd message is concatinated > onto the last line of the 1st message. > > So my question is, has anybody else seen this and possibly fixed (or hacked > it if sendmail is at fault) it. I believe the fix needs to be in the > c-client but I havn't found the correct place to add it. I simply want to > append a NL if the last character in the message isn't already a NL. Try rebuilding Pine with the latest IMAP2bis toolkit, version 3.6.BETA, from ftp.cac.washington.edu, mail/imap.tar.Z Some bugs were fixed between version 3.5 (which Pine 3.91 ships with) and 3.6 -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 08:12:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09830; Tue, 27 Jun 95 08:12:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22887; Tue, 27 Jun 95 08:06:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22881; Tue, 27 Jun 95 08:06:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQc9U-00038OC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 08:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: c0691668@techst02.technion.ac.il (Basin Alex) Subject: A question about Pine. Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 14:20:56 GMT Message-Id: Hello out there! I have a question to all the Pine people: is it possible to brows through WWW with Pine? I do NOT mean accessing the WWW by E-mail (that I already know). ----- Alex. ----- | May the FORSE be with You! ========================================== | E-mail: c0691668@techst02.technion.ac.il From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 08:34:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10453; Tue, 27 Jun 95 08:34:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02941; Tue, 27 Jun 95 08:26:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02935; Tue, 27 Jun 95 08:26:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQcTX-00038CC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 08:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: john@pacer.apana.org.au (John Saunders) Subject: Problem with berzerk mailbox handling Date: 17 Jun 1995 01:15:05 GMT Message-Id: <3rtaap$1r1@pacer.valhalla.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a problem using pine. It seems that sendmail sometimes doesn't place a blank line between the last message and the 'From user@host ' line that marks the beginning of the next message. Pine is able to correctly locate the 'From user@host ' line but it removes the last NL character from the previous message. Thus when the message is exported or piped to a command (e.g. when using ftpmail), the last line isn't terminated with a NL and causes all sorts of problems. The worst is when I tag 2 messages and pipe them to a command, the first line of the 2nd message is concatinated onto the last line of the 1st message. So my question is, has anybody else seen this and possibly fixed (or hacked it if sendmail is at fault) it. I believe the fix needs to be in the c-client but I havn't found the correct place to add it. I simply want to append a NL if the last character in the message isn't already a NL. Thanks. -- . +------------------------------------------------------------+ ,--_|\ | John Saunders - (Home) john@pacer.apana.org.au | / Oz \ | - (Work) johns@rd.scitec.com.au | \_,--\_/ | "Mmmmmmmm beer..." - Homer Simpson | v +------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 08:48:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11109; Tue, 27 Jun 95 08:48:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23472; Tue, 27 Jun 95 08:41:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23466; Tue, 27 Jun 95 08:41:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQcix-00038EC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 08:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: csb@sjfc.edu (Coenraad Bakker) Subject: Sending Mail from PCPINE/WATTCP Message-Id: <1995Jun27.135111.13937@sjfc.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 13:51:11 GMT Hi, This may have been covered before but I did not see it. We have used Pine for UNIX for quite some time. Recently we installed PCPINE for Windows and that works fine (both reading and sending mail). For some other clients we want to install PCPINE for DOS using WATTCP. We have installed this and can read mail fine but cannot send mail since PINE cannot find our SMTP server even though it is the same system it read its mail from and the name we provide works fine for PCPINE for Windows. Can anyone explain this discrepency to me and provide a solution? Thanks for helping out. Coenraad Bakker -- Coenraad Bakker Director Academic Computing Services St. John Fisher College 3690 East Avenue From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 10:11:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15082; Tue, 27 Jun 95 10:11:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25350; Tue, 27 Jun 95 10:00:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from samuel.admin.lawrence.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25344; Tue, 27 Jun 95 10:00:09 -0700 Received: from lawrence.edu by lawrence.edu (PMDF V4.3-10 #3646) id <01HS744UN3BKAPTEO4@lawrence.edu>; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 12:02:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 11:41:22 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Lowe Subject: Errors using multiple folder collections To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <01HS77JW3LMSAPTEO4@lawrence.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Using three folder collections, the first local, and the second two remote (VMS), I noticed the following behaviour using Pine 3.91 for Unix: I open the second remote folder collection and see all the expected folders. I open one of the folders, and see messages. I then use the L[ist folders command, and see my three collections, each with the Select Here to See Expanded List "button". I then move up to the second remote collection, and press return on the button, but I see the folders from the third collection. If I attempt to view the contents of one of the folders, it is empty. From there, I List folders again, press return to expand the list, and voila, the correct folders appear in the collection as expected. Anyone seen this before? _/ _/ _/ Robert Lowe, Network Manager _/ _/ _/ Computer Services _/ _/ _/ Lawrence University / Appleton, WI 54912 / USA _/ _/ _/ Voice: 414/832-6572 Fax: 414/832-7693 _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ e-mail: Robert.H.Lowe@lawrence.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 10:37:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16099; Tue, 27 Jun 95 10:37:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25080; Tue, 27 Jun 95 09:46:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from actcom.co.il by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25017; Tue, 27 Jun 95 09:43:37 -0700 Received: from galtronics.UUCP by actcom.co.il with UUCPgaltronics (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id PAA15860; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 15:54:59 +0300 (rfc931-sender: uucp@localhost) Received: by aviion.galtronics.co.il (5.4R2.10/ACTCOM-GALTRONICS-S-1.0) id AA08409; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 14:52:46 GMT Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 14:52:26 +0000 (GMT) From: Aladdin Khamis To: Scott Derby Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Where can I get a manual? In-Reply-To: <3snqpk$1ilf@admaix.sunydutchess.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="2113929218-2078917053-804264746=:8233" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --2113929218-2078917053-804264746=:8233 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 27 Jun 1995, Scott Derby wrote: >Can someone tell me where I can get a manual for Pine (preferably >a Postscript version, but plain text will do)? > >Thanks! > >Scott >derby@admaix.sunydutchess.edu > I attached for you three files I got through ftp. 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owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26905; Tue, 27 Jun 95 11:11:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQf39-00038CC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 11:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rneu@rneu.loc.gov (R R Neuswanger) Subject: Re: Where can I get a manual? Date: 27 Jun 1995 17:59:46 GMT Message-Id: <3spgui$1snn@rs7.loc.gov> References: <3snqpk$1ilf@admaix.sunydutchess.edu> Please summarize for the list (or at least tell me) if you ever get any leads on a worthwhile manual. The context-sensitive help is fine as far as it goes, but the so-called online manual is utterly hopeless: written for supernerds, and impossible to find anything in ... In <3snqpk$1ilf@admaix.sunydutchess.edu>, derby@admaix.sunydutchess.edu (Scott Derby) writes: >Can someone tell me where I can get a manual for Pine (preferably >a Postscript version, but plain text will do)? > >Thanks! > >Scott >derby@admaix.sunydutchess.edu R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life rneu@rneu.loc.gov or (better) rrne@loc.gov I speak for me. Only. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 11:44:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19900; Tue, 27 Jun 95 11:44:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07856; Tue, 27 Jun 95 11:34:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07850; Tue, 27 Jun 95 11:34:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQfLt-00038CC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 11:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmbill@laser.net Subject: imap installation, POP3 installation. Date: Tue, 27 Jun 95 13:37:21 PDT Message-Id: <3sph38$ogs@news.laser.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have installed imapd on one of my servers. I now would like to do the following: let users access the server without logging in. I have several Unix boxes (BSDI v2.0). My system is composed of 10 boxes. Of these, users log into 5 of them. The others are news, web, ftp, and dns. Users do not login to these boxes. I would like the mail server (10th box) to allow users to retrieve mail without using a password or login name. Is this possible? Is there anything out there that will handle this? I have done the following: 1. installed imapd 2. configured the services and inetd 3. copied the passwd file from the 5 boxes to the mail server 4. configured and installed POP3 5. added the line {mailserver.laser.net}INBOX to pine.conf.fixed file We only use Pine 3.91 at our site (POP3 was installed for some of our framed clients). Thanks Rick Bill rmbill@laser.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 11:56:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20361; Tue, 27 Jun 95 11:56:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08172; Tue, 27 Jun 95 11:47:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08166; Tue, 27 Jun 95 11:46:59 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13321; Tue, 27 Jun 95 11:46:54 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 11:46:39 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Nancy McGough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP and PC Pine for Windows questions In-Reply-To: <3sn7s4$btb@news1.wolfe.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 26 Jun 1995, Nancy McGough wrote: > I have a few questions about using PC Pine for Windows with a PPP > connection. > > * When I specify the folder directory that's on my host, to be accessed > with IMAP, what is the best host name to use? Both the shell (e.g., > {shell.foo.com}Folders/[]) and the smtp host (e.g., {mail.foo.com}Folders/[]) > work but I'm wondering which is better, or if it matters. These have > different IP numbers, so they really do seem to be different. > If both machines have the same folders, one of them is probably NFS mounting from the other (or a third). Getting NFS out of the look is always recommended. > * Is there a compiled version of pcpine_w that lets you change the From header? > Not that I am aware of. You can change the username and user-domain in PC-Pine though... On 26 Jun 1995, Nancy McGough wrote: > Here's another question: > > * How can I put commas in a customized header? In Unix Pine > I use environment variables, e.g., $ORGANIZATION - do env > variable work in PC Pine? Even if they do, I'm curious > how to put commas in a customized header without using > an env variable. > You can include commas in a quoted string, e.g. X-Warning: "this is a ,,,,, comma test" |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL/BSG9/IU4uTDdHNAQEpXQH+JWk2qAvpwhszThc8ayHkXIY+sQFtgfzp nuy+NUMEugxmzdK8O2yNpvGPRRaPZ5mU3ZFSwFeAZUQm7bSu2NpfWw== =fHJi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 12:12:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21218; Tue, 27 Jun 95 12:12:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27999; Tue, 27 Jun 95 12:02:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27993; Tue, 27 Jun 95 12:02:55 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13645; Tue, 27 Jun 95 12:02:51 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 12:02:33 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: rmbill@laser.net Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: imap installation, POP3 installation. In-Reply-To: <3sph38$ogs@news.laser.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The next steps are to 6. Configure the mailserver to allow rsh connections 7. Disable direct logins (change login shell in /etc/passwd, turn off telnetd/rlogind, move telnetd to a hidden port, etc) 8. link imapd to /etc/rimapd on the mail server |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 27 Jun 1995 rmbill@laser.net wrote: > > I have installed imapd on one of my servers. I now would like to do the > following: > let users access the server without logging in. > > I have several Unix boxes (BSDI v2.0). My system is composed of 10 boxes. Of > these, users log into 5 of them. The others are news, web, ftp, and dns. > Users do not login to these boxes. I would like the mail server (10th box) to > allow users to retrieve mail without using a password or login name. Is this > possible? Is there anything out there that will handle this? > > I have done the following: > 1. installed imapd > 2. configured the services and inetd > 3. copied the passwd file from the 5 boxes to the mail server > 4. configured and installed POP3 > 5. added the line {mailserver.laser.net}INBOX to pine.conf.fixed file > > We only use Pine 3.91 at our site (POP3 was installed for some of our framed > clients). > > Thanks > > Rick Bill > rmbill@laser.net > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL/BV2N/IU4uTDdHNAQEbZgIAmTRxvoAZUFXQCBcuGRx2vsfSE/RGCWKa uJ42Kx7s5HSYlyABAYIWEKsui3dln7oWg/AEvRLuQIr4Mln4yjBcyQ== =CFn4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 12:40:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22392; Tue, 27 Jun 95 12:40:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28497; Tue, 27 Jun 95 12:27:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28491; Tue, 27 Jun 95 12:27:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQgFp-00038IC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 12:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simone@crash.cts.com (Simone Shoemaker) Subject: Signature on posted article? Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 17:01:43 GMT Message-Id: I jus edited myself a signature file, and send a message to myself to see if it worked. The message arrived with signature. But then i posted to a test group, and there the signature did not appear, even though I saw it appended to my article before I posted. Why? Please e-mail if you can explain this. Simone From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 12:41:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22450; Tue, 27 Jun 95 12:41:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09399; Tue, 27 Jun 95 12:30:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from opus.sirsi.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09393; Tue, 27 Jun 95 12:30:46 -0700 Received: (from darren@localhost) by opus.sirsi.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA02094; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 14:34:02 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 14:34:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Darren Hiebert To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: rneu@rneu.loc.gov Subject: Re: Where can I get a manual? In-Reply-To: <3spgui$1snn@rs7.loc.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 27 Jun 1995, R R Neuswanger wrote: > Please summarize for the list (or at least tell me) if you > ever get any leads on a worthwhile manual. The context-sensitive > help is fine as far as it goes, but the so-called online manual is > utterly hopeless: written for supernerds, and impossible to find > anything in ... You can find any such items at the Pine home site. The docs, in particular are found at: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Darren Hiebert "Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?" Hunstville, AL Phone: (205) 922-9820 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 13:55:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26102; Tue, 27 Jun 95 13:55:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11500; Tue, 27 Jun 95 13:49:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11494; Tue, 27 Jun 95 13:49:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQhUW-00038CC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 13:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joao Torquato Garcez Subject: testing mail. Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 15:30:29 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII test1 of 1. Is this really working ????? J.T. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 14:40:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27817; Tue, 27 Jun 95 14:40:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01645; Tue, 27 Jun 95 14:37:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01639; Tue, 27 Jun 95 14:37:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQiHE-00038EC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 14:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stephen Winnall Subject: Re: MacPine anyone? Date: 27 Jun 1995 15:18:03 GMT Message-Id: <3sp7fb$ejt@media.ska.com> References: <3sijo2$ik4@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There's an excellent program called Mail Drop which does MIME and IMAP on the Mac. Steve -------------------------------------------------------- Stephen Winnall, Oq9, Credit Suisse, CH-8070 Zurich E-Mail: stephen.winnall@ska.com Tel: (int) +41 1 332 4467 (CH) 01/332 4467 -------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 15:57:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02597; Tue, 27 Jun 95 15:57:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14627; Tue, 27 Jun 95 15:52:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14621; Tue, 27 Jun 95 15:52:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQjTQ-00038CC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 15:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kurt.risser@shivasys.com (Kurt) Subject: Dual Edged Sword Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 16:54:32 GMT Message-Id: <3spd17$mlo@news.paonline.com> It sure is frustrating to have a fine program like PINE and PICO, with no installation instructions- at least no *complete* installation instructions. Sometimes PINE works, sometimes it doesn't... but MAIL always works. Some of my PINE users get their mail, others only get it sometimes... The screen often fills up with garbage when choosing C to compose. Can anyone shed any light on this situation? I really want to use PINE, it's much nicer than MAIL.... except it doesn't work reliably. I have checked all the documentation at the FTP site, the web site, and here on the USENET, to no avail.... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 16:01:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02773; Tue, 27 Jun 95 16:01:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03408; Tue, 27 Jun 95 15:57:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03402; Tue, 27 Jun 95 15:57:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQjTW-00038EC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 15:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kurt.risser@shivasys.com (Kurt) Subject: Re: Save Your Computer! Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 16:56:36 GMT Message-Id: <3spd4s$mlo@news.paonline.com> References: <3sn4gt$8jm@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Why don't you advertise somewhere else? USENET isn't supposed to be junk mail. Product announcements are one thing, but a whole damn catalog is abusing the forum and disrespecting your potential customers. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 16:07:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03007; Tue, 27 Jun 95 16:07:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14891; Tue, 27 Jun 95 16:05:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14876; Tue, 27 Jun 95 16:05:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQjZy-00038CC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 15:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jackie Robbins Subject: loooong address headers Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 13:36:19 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Had a student ask me a question on pine today. The secretary of a student activity group sends meeting notices with Pine 3.91. She uses the address book feature to define a group with the addresses of 200+ members. What she would like to know is if there is anyway to suppress the printing of all 200+ address in the header of the mail message. A receiver of the message may have to scroll thru 200 lines of mail addresses just to read a one line message, "meeting at 8". I'm cross-posting to comp.mail.sendmail since this may be a sendmail issue. (We are running sendmail version 5.64 which came with our RS/6000.) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jackie Robbins | | Computer Services | | Georgia Southern University | | Landrum Box 8136 | | Statesboro, GA 30460-8136 | | | | Internet Electronic Mail: jrobbins@gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.edu | | | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 17:14:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05952; Tue, 27 Jun 95 17:14:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04936; Tue, 27 Jun 95 17:07:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04930; Tue, 27 Jun 95 17:07:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQkbH-00038CC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 17:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bottasini@cesi.it (Giuseppe Bottasini) Subject: Commercial IMAP clients Message-Id: <1995Jun26.094458.837@cesi> Date: 26 Jun 95 09:44:58 +0200 Is there any commercial IMAP clients of Dos/Windows ? Giuseppe Bottasini From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 17:25:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06232; Tue, 27 Jun 95 17:25:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16701; Tue, 27 Jun 95 17:23:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16695; Tue, 27 Jun 95 17:23:34 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23925; Tue, 27 Jun 95 17:22:05 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 17:21:51 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Giuseppe Bottasini Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Commercial IMAP clients In-Reply-To: <1995Jun26.094458.837@cesi> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Yes, see ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.software for a list... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 26 Jun 1995, Giuseppe Bottasini wrote: > Is there any commercial IMAP clients of Dos/Windows ? > > Giuseppe Bottasini > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL/Cgq9/IU4uTDdHNAQHPOwIAzmZysuYJoXH9gPnCfyKiqcxwF61VnAZJ XVDadfweegSTuh1/4KIlNAu6oroJlRtjMGOuOnAmRDs1kJ7DQIVjuA== =OwHV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 20:00:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11495; Tue, 27 Jun 95 20:00:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19192; Tue, 27 Jun 95 19:58:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19186; Tue, 27 Jun 95 19:58:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQnIx-00038CC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 19:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Thomas F. Steck" Subject: Will Pine 3.92 ever be created? Date: 28 Jun 1995 02:24:36 GMT Message-Id: <3sqeh4$t4j@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am a very loyal user of pine, but am displeased with the lack of upgrades in the past year (almost). Is there any hope for a new version of pine? Especially one that includes a true window (either X11, MS-Win, or Apple) interface. If a new version is planned, as it would appear by all the people asking for features in the next release, when might this next release appear? Tom Steck ---- steck@jhu.edu Engineer Johns Hopkins University http://spectrum.ece.jhu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 22:40:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15581; Tue, 27 Jun 95 22:40:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21690; Tue, 27 Jun 95 22:36:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21684; Tue, 27 Jun 95 22:35:59 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 28 Jun 95 13:33:31 -0800 Message-Id: <2ff1caab51c0002@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com> From: Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com To: steck@jhu.edu Subject: Re: Will Pine 3.92 ever be created? Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 13:33:30 -0800 (GMT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ishmail 1.0.5-sol-950210 Available via anonymous ftp from ftp.halsoft.com "Thomas F. Steck" wrote: > I am a very loyal user of pine, but am displeased with the > lack of upgrades in the past year (almost). Is there any hope > for a new version of pine? Especially one that includes a > true window (either X11, MS-Win, or Apple) interface. If a > new version is planned, as it would appear by all the people > asking for features in the next release, when might this next > release appear? Hummmmm.....you are the first person I've ever heard complaining about a lack of upgrades to *FREE* software. My understanding is that, Yes, there will be a pine 3.92. It is coming. When? There is no date forcast. However, if you'd like to hurry up the development I'm sure that the PineTeam would gladly accept a generous (read *large*) tax deductible donation to hire the necessary staff to make your wishes come true. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 27 23:32:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16607; Tue, 27 Jun 95 23:32:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09924; Tue, 27 Jun 95 23:28:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09918; Tue, 27 Jun 95 23:28:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQqZU-00038CC; Tue, 27 Jun 95 23:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cccdavid@pandora.ucdavis.edu (Dave Zavatson) Subject: Re: loooong address headers Date: 28 Jun 1995 06:12:42 GMT Message-Id: <3sqrsq$b2t@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: Jackie Robbins (cssjr04@gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.EDU) wrote: : Had a student ask me a question on pine today. The secretary of a : student activity group sends meeting notices with Pine 3.91. She uses : the address book feature to define a group with the addresses : of 200+ members. What she would like to know is if there is anyway to : suppress the printing of all 200+ address in the header of the mail : message. A receiver of the message may have to scroll thru 200 lines of : mail addresses just to read a one line message, "meeting at 8". I'm : cross-posting to comp.mail.sendmail since this may be a sendmail issue. : (We are running sendmail version 5.64 which came with our RS/6000.) Either create a sendmail alias for all 200 addresses, or have the secretary place all recipients on the Bcc: line. You need to have at least one person on the To: line however, otherwise sendmail will add the Apparently-To: header. --dave ''' (o o) /----------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo------------------------------------\ | David Zavatson |Mein Schatz, es ist soweit. Unsere Liebe ist vorbei.| |dhzavatson@ucdavis.edu |Ich kann nicht von Dir gehen. Zwei Gefuehle bleiben | | UCD IT Systems Group | stehen: Liebe und Hass, sind sich doch so nah. -ECO| \-----------------------------------------------------------------------------/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 28 01:12:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18844; Wed, 28 Jun 95 01:12:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10894; Wed, 28 Jun 95 01:06:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10888; Wed, 28 Jun 95 01:06:08 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 28 Jun 1995 09:01:54 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA05133; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 09:07:06 +0100 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 09:07:06 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Stephen Winnall Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: MacPine anyone? In-Reply-To: <3sp7fb$ejt@media.ska.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ...But only supports the INBOX folder at present, I believe. Multiple mail folders are " on the way". Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 27 Jun 1995, Stephen Winnall wrote: > There's an excellent program called Mail Drop which does MIME and IMAP on the > Mac. > > Steve > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Stephen Winnall, Oq9, Credit Suisse, CH-8070 Zurich > E-Mail: stephen.winnall@ska.com > Tel: (int) +41 1 332 4467 (CH) 01/332 4467 > -------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 28 06:13:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26485; Wed, 28 Jun 95 06:13:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27811; Wed, 28 Jun 95 06:04:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27805; Wed, 28 Jun 95 06:04:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQwhv-00038CC; Wed, 28 Jun 95 05:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Will Pine 3.92 ever be created? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 09:22:42 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <3sqeh4$t4j@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 "Thomas F. Steck" wrote: >I am a very loyal user of pine, but am displeased with the >lack of upgrades in the past year (almost). Is there any hope >for a new version of pine? Especially one that includes a >true window (either X11, MS-Win, or Apple) interface. If a >new version is planned, as it would appear by all the people >asking for features in the next release, when might this next >release appear? (I've noticed some problems with the email<->newsgroup gateway....so I'm posting this as well. Sorry if you see 2 copies.) Hummmmm.....you are the first person I've ever heard complaining about a lack of upgrades to *FREE* software. My understanding is that, Yes, there will be a pine 3.92. It is coming. When? There is no date forcast. However, if you'd like to hurry up the development I'm sure that the PineTeam would gladly accept a generous (read *large*) tax deductible donation to hire the necessary staff to make your wishes come true. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 28 08:37:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01728; Wed, 28 Jun 95 08:37:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16565; Wed, 28 Jun 95 08:24:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16559; Wed, 28 Jun 95 08:24:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQyuZ-00038CC; Wed, 28 Jun 95 08:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lord@topaz.kiev.ua (Vadim Zaliva) Subject: Re: Syncing UNIX/POP mail Date: 27 Jun 1995 09:58:50 GMT Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: sspoon@hubcap.clemson.edu's message of 22 Jun 1995 05:05:30 GMT >>>>> "Lex" == Lex Spoon writes: Lex> I don't think UIDL is very common; I did see it in the source Lex> code for one pop server, but sorry I don't remember which Lex> one. In qualcomm's qpopper. It's very good POP server and I can recomend you to take a look at it. ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com or http://www.qualcomm.com. BTW UIDL command is very good for synchronization. -- ;;--------------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ ;; Vadim Zaliva + Those who do not understand Unix + ;; Fido : 2:463/80@fidonet.org + are condemned to reinvent it, + ;; Home : vadim@crocodile.kiev.ua + poorly. + ;; Office : lord@topaz.kiev.ua + (H. Spencer) + ;;--------------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 28 12:19:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12186; Wed, 28 Jun 95 12:19:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06173; Wed, 28 Jun 95 12:15:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06167; Wed, 28 Jun 95 12:15:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sR2Xk-00038CC; Wed, 28 Jun 95 12:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: waada@perth.DIALix.oz.au (WA Alcohol and Drug Authority) Subject: PC-Pine for Windows 3.91 WHERE? Date: 28 Jun 1995 23:17:18 +0800 Message-Id: <3srrpu$eea$1@perth.DIALix.oz.au> Hi, I am new to this newsgroup. Can anyone tell me where to get a copy of PC-Pine for Windows 3.91. This maybe answered but can PC-Pine allow me to read news from the nntp server? I uses the Trumpet winsock to establish a ppp connection with my internet provider. Other requirements do I need in order for PC-Pine to work. Thanks in advance. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 28 12:39:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13069; Wed, 28 Jun 95 12:39:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22229; Wed, 28 Jun 95 12:35:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22223; Wed, 28 Jun 95 12:35:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sR2sF-00038EC; Wed, 28 Jun 95 12:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wix@interaccess (movable articles) Subject: Re: Anonymous/Name changes Date: 28 Jun 1995 19:02:43 GMT Message-Id: <3ss90j$k4u@nntp.interaccess.com> References: <3ss4ss$ueo@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> John Marken (jmarken@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca) wrote: : How would you change your name that is shown in the newsgroups. Do you do : it through Pine? I asked the same question of my server, InterAccess in Illinois, and was told that they had to do it. It took them less than ten minutes and I was up and running with a new name. Some Windows based programs have their own profile files so you still have to make changes in them, if you use any. David From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 28 13:22:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15347; Wed, 28 Jun 95 13:22:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07949; Wed, 28 Jun 95 13:20:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07943; Wed, 28 Jun 95 13:20:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sR3WB-00038CC; Wed, 28 Jun 95 13:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kachel@acds17.physik.rwth-aachen.de (Ralf Kachel ) Subject: unbalanced '<' Date: 28 Jun 1995 15:42:05 GMT Message-Id: Hi, I am new in this group, since I work with pine only for a few weeks. My question is: If I am mailing to a group of about 60 people, some of the mails come back with an error message: 554 ... unbalanced '<' 554 ... unbalanced '<' ... What can I do to avoid this? Cheers Ralf -- ************************************************************* S H I T H A P P E N S ! ************************************************************* ================================================================= | Ralf Kachel | | | | III. Physikalisches Institut Phone : ++49(0)241 / 80-7286 | | Lehrstuhl B, Physikzentrum e-mail: kachel@desy.de | | RWTH Aachen | | D-52056 Aachen | ================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 28 14:05:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17278; Wed, 28 Jun 95 14:05:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24277; Wed, 28 Jun 95 14:00:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24271; Wed, 28 Jun 95 14:00:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sR4Bg-00038IC; Wed, 28 Jun 95 13:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tengowski@coli.uni-sb.de (Slawomir Tengowski) Subject: Cannot configure for news (:-( Date: 28 Jun 1995 18:58:29 +0200 Message-Id: <3ss1nl$3a1@coli-gate.coli.uni-sb.de> Hello! Some days ago I got Pine. After several trials at last I made run but I still cannot read the news by pine. My config looks like this: personal-name = Slawomir Tengowski user-domain = tengowski@coli.uni-sb.de smtp-server = nntp-server = coli.uni-sb.de inbox-path = /var/mail/tengowski folder-collections = /beige/CIP/tengowski/Mail/[] whenever I want to access the newsfolder pine prints: [Can't open mailbox /var/spool/news/comp: no such folder] I have read the manuals but it was very quickly frustrating - I could not make it run. Does somebody have similar experiences but did it finally? Can somebody help? Thanx! Yours, Tengo! PS:And something for smiling: ______________________________________________________________________________ "Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the Universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (c) 'Calvin& Hobbes' by Bill Watterson +++ Slawomir Tengowski +++ ______________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 28 15:57:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21641; Wed, 28 Jun 95 15:57:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11520; Wed, 28 Jun 95 15:47:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11514; Wed, 28 Jun 95 15:47:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sR5os-00038CC; Wed, 28 Jun 95 15:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmarken@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (John Marken) Subject: Anonymous/Name changes Date: 28 Jun 1995 17:52:28 GMT Message-Id: <3ss4ss$ueo@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> How would you change your name that is shown in the newsgroups. Do you do it through Pine? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 28 16:36:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23114; Wed, 28 Jun 95 16:36:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27504; Wed, 28 Jun 95 16:32:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27498; Wed, 28 Jun 95 16:32:39 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03260; Wed, 28 Jun 95 16:32:32 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 16:32:22 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: WA Alcohol and Drug Authority Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC-Pine for Windows 3.91 WHERE? In-Reply-To: <3srrpu$eea$1@perth.DIALix.oz.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 28 Jun 1995, WA Alcohol and Drug Authority wrote: > I am new to this newsgroup. Can anyone tell me where to get a copy of > PC-Pine for Windows 3.91. This maybe answered but can PC-Pine allow me to > read news from the nntp server? > PC-Pine for Windows is in ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/pcpine_w.zip It does support NNTP. > I uses the Trumpet winsock to establish a ppp connection with my internet > provider. Other requirements do I need in order for PC-Pine to work. > Your provider needs to provide IMAP access to your INBOX and any other folders you keep on that system. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL/Hmjd/IU4uTDdHNAQFmjwH/Y1nlU2S40EDXJk0zH/z//9pWylnu3qmn iGU4Mn8EbuEvt70CyZCDoTt6tOHGhTzpoUY2/8x0wT6rznXnuoR/Qw== =4bUq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 28 18:31:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27316; Wed, 28 Jun 95 18:31:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29694; Wed, 28 Jun 95 18:27:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29688; Wed, 28 Jun 95 18:27:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sR8MN-00038EC; Wed, 28 Jun 95 18:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wix@thymaster.interaccess.com (movable articles) Subject: Re: Cannot configure for news (:-( Date: 28 Jun 1995 17:23:28 GMT Message-Id: <3ss36g$jjb@nntp.interaccess.com> References: <3ss1nl$3a1@coli-gate.coli.uni-sb.de> Slawomir Tengowski (tengowski@coli.uni-sb.de) wrote: : whenever I want to access the newsfolder pine prints: : [Can't open mailbox /var/spool/news/comp: no such folder] : I could not make it run. Does somebody have similar experiences : but did it finally? Can somebody help? Are you in a Unix environment? Pine is great for mail, but tin is the way to go for news. It's easy to use and hardly ever has problems. David From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 28 19:31:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28411; Wed, 28 Jun 95 19:31:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15862; Wed, 28 Jun 95 19:27:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15856; Wed, 28 Jun 95 19:27:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sR9Er-00038CC; Wed, 28 Jun 95 19:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Magnus Leksell Subject: Re: Extended char set Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <3s9n0b$f2g@bubba.NMSU.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 01:39:00 GMT mfstfs@nmsu.edu (Thorsten Sandgren) wrote: >I receive mail from Europe frequently. These pieces of mail >usually contains special characters, that Pine does not display >properly. Is there a feature in Pine that allows these extended >characters to be displayed on screen? > [...] Try this... Get into SETUP CONFIGURATION mode in your pine program... ..and at the bottom of the list, you set: character-set = iso-8859-1 That's IT! /Magnus -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Magnus Leksell Student of Computing Science dvlmll@cs.umu.se Dept. of Computing Science http://www.cs.umu.se/~dvlmll/ University of Umea, Sweden --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 28 19:33:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28457; Wed, 28 Jun 95 19:33:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00411; Wed, 28 Jun 95 19:28:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00405; Wed, 28 Jun 95 19:27:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sR9Ew-00038EC; Wed, 28 Jun 95 19:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Magnus Leksell Subject: iso-8859-1 in headers? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 01:46:02 GMT How do I configure pine so that one can send/receive the iso-8859-1 character-set in headers too? - Maybe one have to rewrite the code!? :-/ Please mail me, cos I usually don't read this newsgroup! /Magnus -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Magnus Leksell Student of Computing Science dvlmll@cs.umu.se Dept. of Computing Science http://www.cs.umu.se/~dvlmll/ University of Umea, Sweden --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 28 20:23:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29544; Wed, 28 Jun 95 20:23:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16650; Wed, 28 Jun 95 20:18:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16644; Wed, 28 Jun 95 20:18:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRA5t-00038CC; Wed, 28 Jun 95 20:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "David R. Bogdan" Subject: Documentation on Pine in Japanese? Date: 29 Jun 1995 00:56:17 GMT Message-Id: <3sstnh$hgo@iyokan.cc.matsuyama-u.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know of any documentation on Pine and/or Pico in Japanese? The only thing I have found so far is a translation of Internet Instant Reference bye Paul E. Hoffman (the original not the translation). There are a few pages in it on Pico and Pine. It would help me in explaining to my students if there were more in Japanese somewhere. david bogdan@cc.matsuyama-u.ac.jp From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 28 21:54:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01697; Wed, 28 Jun 95 21:54:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02250; Wed, 28 Jun 95 21:43:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02244; Wed, 28 Jun 95 21:43:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRBQU-00038CC; Wed, 28 Jun 95 21:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jchan@sfsu.edu (Jim C. Chan) Subject: Pine 3.91 folders and AFS problems Date: 28 Jun 1995 18:53:54 GMT Message-Id: <3ss8g2$q51@news.csus.edu> Hi, We are running Pine 3.91 on several Sparc 20 servers with Solaris 2.3 as the operating system and the Transarc Andrew File System 3.3 for sharing user file systems. The /var/mail directory is NFS mounted from our mailbox server to the Sparc 20 servers. Pine works fine for sending and reading mail. However, several users have complained that when they try to save messages to their own folders, some of the messages are not saved into these mail folders. I've sent mail to pine-bug and consulted their FAQ material and did not get any information. Does anyone have this type of environment and problem ? Any suggestions on what could cause this type of problem ? Thanks. Jim Chan SFSU Academic Computing From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 28 22:35:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02593; Wed, 28 Jun 95 22:35:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18635; Wed, 28 Jun 95 22:23:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18629; Wed, 28 Jun 95 22:23:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRC1d-00038CC; Wed, 28 Jun 95 22:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Gardiner Myers Subject: Re: Syncing UNIX/POP mail Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 16:26:11 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3s7dte$vek@hubcap.clemson.edu> <3s8d91$83m@scsing.switch.ch> In-Reply-To: <3satmq$dkt@hubcap.clemson.edu> sspoon@hubcap.clemson.edu (Lex Spoon) writes: > I don't think UIDL is very common; I did see it in the source code > for one pop server, but sorry I don't remember which one. Six of the seven POP3 servers mentioned in replies to my earlier query on comp.mail.mime support UIDL. They are: Cyrus pop3d 1.3 IMAP toolkit 4.0 ipop3d post.office@software.com SPOTmail POP3 Server WinNT Mercury MTS v1.21 Qualcomm popper 2.1.4-r4 -- _.John G. Myers Internet: jgm+@CMU.EDU LoseNet: ...!seismo!ihnp4!wiscvm.wisc.edu!give!up From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 28 22:45:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02789; Wed, 28 Jun 95 22:45:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02878; Wed, 28 Jun 95 22:33:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02872; Wed, 28 Jun 95 22:33:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRCCf-00038EC; Wed, 28 Jun 95 22:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" Subject: Re: Cannot configure for news (:-( Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 20:53:58 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3ss1nl$3a1@coli-gate.coli.uni-sb.de> Looks like you misconfigured the NNTP connection - if you reside on coli.uni-sb.de and the same machine is the news-server, then you wouldn't need NNTP (and the news would come from /var/spool/news). You need to find someone knowledgeable about your local news setup to tell you what's the proper NNTP address, if any. Incidentally, you set your 'user-domain' wrong, too: it should not contain the username! Zoli fekete@bc.edu (note my old full address @bcuxs2 is retired) "For my assured failures and derelictions, I ask pardon beforehand of my betters and my equals in my calling." - Rudyard Kipling On 28 Jun 1995, Slawomir Tengowski wrote: > My config looks like this: > personal-name = Slawomir Tengowski > user-domain = tengowski@coli.uni-sb.de > smtp-server = > nntp-server = coli.uni-sb.de > inbox-path = /var/mail/tengowski > folder-collections = /beige/CIP/tengowski/Mail/[] > > whenever I want to access the newsfolder pine prints: > [Can't open mailbox /var/spool/news/comp: no such folder] > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 29 00:55:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05192; Thu, 29 Jun 95 00:55:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20491; Thu, 29 Jun 95 00:43:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20485; Thu, 29 Jun 95 00:43:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sREB9-00038CC; Thu, 29 Jun 95 00:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: grk2237@is2.nyu.edu (Glenn R. Kurtzrock) Subject: Procmail problems Date: 20 Jun 1995 06:08:45 GMT Message-Id: <3s5old$2h3@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> Hi I was wondering someone could help me out with this... I'm trying to install procmail on my account, and having all sorts of problems. I changed the base directory to my own in Makefile, and when I type make install, here's what I get: /bin/sh ./initmake /bin/sh "/usr/local/bin/is" "/bin/rm -f" "mv -f" "ln" "-lm - ldir -lx -lsocket -lnet -linet -lnsl_s -lnsl_i -lnsl -lsun -lgen -lsockdns" "/ lib /usr/lib /usr/local/lib" /dev/null "make" o "cc" "-O " "-s " "procmail l ockfile formail mailstat" "procmail formail lockfile" "procmailrc procmailsc p rocmailex" "src man" "/home/g/grk2237/bin" Warning: perverted make detected Whoeaaa! There's something fishy going on here. You have a look and see if you detect anything uncanny: ******************************************************* cc -O _autotst.c -o _autotst -s ./initmake: cc: execute permission denied :::: cc -O _autotst.c -o _autotst -s ./initmake: cc: execute permission denied :::: gcc -O _autotst.c -o _autotst -s ./initmake: gcc: execute permission denied :::: ******************************************************* I suggest you take a look at the definition of CFLAGS* and CC in the Makefile before you try make again. *** Exit 1 Stop. Any suggestions? Thanks! -- Glenn Kurtzrock grk2237@is2.nyu.edu NYU 1995 HEY! NEW HOME PAGE ---> http://www.cascade.net/~sunspot Sigma Phi Epsilon New York Gamma CR#659 GC#197,507 V D BL Since 11/1/01! Finger my account for the ".plan file from Hell"(tm) ...oOMcDcMOo... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 29 01:34:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06424; Thu, 29 Jun 95 01:34:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04691; Thu, 29 Jun 95 01:24:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailserv.uni-tuebingen.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04685; Thu, 29 Jun 95 01:23:57 -0700 Received: from commlink.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de by mailserv.uni-tuebingen.de with SMTP (PP); Thu, 29 Jun 1995 10:22:57 +0000 Received: from bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.2.31]) by commlink.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA02553 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 10:22:55 +0200 Received: by bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (4.1/ZDV-Uni-Tuebingen-1.0) id AA27640; Thu, 29 Jun 95 10:22:54 +0200 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 10:22:53 +0200 (MET DST) From: martin.spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de X-Sender: zrnsm01@bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: missing mails Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi all, I don't get any mails from pine-info@cac.washington.edu since a week or so. However I can read the news in comp.mail.pine. Was the cross-posting between pine-info@cac.washington.edu and comp.mail.pine cancelled? thanks for any info ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Martin Spohn | Universitaet Tuebingen Z Tel. 07071 29 6970 Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung D E-mail: spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de Abteilung Netze V Fax: 07071 29 5912 Brunnenstr. 27, 72074 Tuebingen | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 29 03:00:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07870; Thu, 29 Jun 95 03:00:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05599; Thu, 29 Jun 95 02:49:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05593; Thu, 29 Jun 95 02:49:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRG9v-00038CC; Thu, 29 Jun 95 02:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wsyoung@igate.iohk.com (YOUNG Wo Sang) Subject: Vocation! Date: 29 Jun 1995 08:37:23 GMT Message-Id: <3stoo3$93a@ibridge.iohk.com> Hello How are you? I would like to set the automatic reply in pine when I am holiday. How to do that? -- ~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._- Young Wo Sang Certified Netware Engineer Hong Kong wsyoung@iohk.com ~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 29 03:29:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08431; Thu, 29 Jun 95 03:29:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22564; Thu, 29 Jun 95 03:19:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22558; Thu, 29 Jun 95 03:19:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRGfa-00038CC; Thu, 29 Jun 95 03:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: Extended char set Message-Id: <173CCAA8BS86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <3s9n0b$f2g@bubba.NMSU.Edu> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 11:07:38 GMT In article Magnus Leksell writes: >Get into SETUP CONFIGURATION mode in your pine program... >..and at the bottom of the list, you set: > >character-set = iso-8859-1 > >That's IT! Well, that _would_ be it if the user's terminal/emulation was set to display the iso-8859-1 code. If it isn't correctly set, PINE will have no idea, and the results could be rather confusing. One quite likely scenario is a terminal emulation that's set to display 7-bit characters, ignoring the 8th bit. PINE is _not_ itself in control of the terminal emulation. It's the user's job to make sure that the character set that they setup in the PINE config is compatible with the terminal emulation they are using. And for users that move around a lot, and may log on from some unknown terminal emulation in, say, someone else's office, this is a source of considerable confusion. I note that you are posting from Sweden. Presumably, most of the terminals that you use are already configured to iso-8859-1. In a world-wide context, though, this could be the exception rather than the rule. best regards From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 29 08:01:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15190; Thu, 29 Jun 95 08:01:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09553; Thu, 29 Jun 95 07:56:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from comp.uark.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09547; Thu, 29 Jun 95 07:56:33 -0700 Received: (from rholder@localhost) by comp.uark.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA19903; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:55:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:55:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Randy Holder To: YOUNG Wo Sang Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Vocation! In-Reply-To: <3stoo3$93a@ibridge.iohk.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Vacation is a unix command that is normally issued from the unix prompt. It makes use of the forwarding function to send an automatic reply. (I suspect you are on a unix type system.) Hope this helps, Randy Holder E-Mail Support Specialist University of Arkansas On 29 Jun 1995, YOUNG Wo Sang wrote: > Hello How are you? > > I would like to set the automatic reply in pine when I am > holiday. How to do that? > > -- > ~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._- > > Young Wo Sang > Certified Netware Engineer > Hong Kong > wsyoung@iohk.com > > ~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._-~._- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 29 11:20:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23506; Thu, 29 Jun 95 11:20:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14368; Thu, 29 Jun 95 11:15:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14362; Thu, 29 Jun 95 11:15:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRO0O-00038LC; Thu, 29 Jun 95 11:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: deafen@imap2.asu.edu Subject: IMAP coexisting w/POP3? Date: 28 Jun 1995 18:15:18 GMT Message-Id: <3ss67m$kn6@news.asu.edu> Okay, after beating sendmail into submission, we're ready to install a set of MUA's for our office. Here's the scoop. We've got one SVR4.2 server, a stand-alone PPP router, and about 40 Windows workstations. The only people that would need an MUA on the server would be myself and the other admin; for this purpose, I was looking into installing Pine, because I've used it on my school account (this one, in fact), and like it muchly. On the Windows workstations, we would like to install a Windows native MUA, such as Eudora. The Windows MUA *must* be extremely user-friendly, as the users around here demand it. For this, then, we would need to install POP3 on our server. Here's my question. Can IMAP service coexist with POP3 service? Am I asking for trouble? And on another line: Is PC-Pine character based, or does it have all the nifty Windows things that the users in my office need? Please email responses, and I'll summarize and repost. Thanks! -- Harry Haygood :: deafen@asu.edu :: hagar@garden.com "Everybody knows that the world is full of stupid people, So meet me at the mission at midnight, we'll divvy up there." -- The Refreshments From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 29 11:26:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23772; Thu, 29 Jun 95 11:26:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14536; Thu, 29 Jun 95 11:22:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14512; Thu, 29 Jun 95 11:22:44 -0700 Received: from dec3300.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA30068; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 12:21:33 -0600 Received: by dec3300.cuug.ab.ca (5.65//ident-1.0) id AA18546; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 12:17:58 -0600 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 12:17:57 -0600 (MDT) From: Marc Knepppers To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: subscribe Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII subscribe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hans Marc Kneppers System Administrator knepperm@cuug.ab.ca PAMCO, A Divison of Enerflex work: (403) 236-6660 8241-31 St. S.E. fax: (403) 279-7649 Calgary, Alta., T2C-1H9 Marc's temporary Home ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 29 11:47:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24957; Thu, 29 Jun 95 11:47:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03287; Thu, 29 Jun 95 11:41:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03281; Thu, 29 Jun 95 11:41:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sROUM-00038CC; Thu, 29 Jun 95 11:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dcoleman@shark.ece.utexas.edu () Subject: Pine for OS/2??? Date: 29 Jun 1995 16:37:08 GMT Message-Id: <3sukrk$kk4@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Is there a Pine port available for OS/2?? Thanks for any help, Dan -- Daniel Matthew Coleman | Internet: dcoleman@mail.utexas.edu -----------------------------------+ coleman@uts.cc.utexas.edu The University of Texas at Austin | Electrical/Computer Engineering | http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~coleman/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 29 12:22:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26871; Thu, 29 Jun 95 12:22:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04285; Thu, 29 Jun 95 12:17:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rs8.loc.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04279; Thu, 29 Jun 95 12:17:06 -0700 Received: by rs8.loc.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA71279; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 15:17:00 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 15:17:00 -0400 (EDT) From: R Russell Neuswanger To: pine-info Subject: cutting & pasting in pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've been trying to use ^K, ^U, and ^^ for cutting & pasting -- especially for cutting a new address out of the body of a message and putting it into another message, or into my addressbook. At first, everything seemed to work fine. Now, all of a sudden, when I get to where I want the paragraph, or the address, or whatever, ^U doesn't do anything. I figured out that I have to be in compose, reply, or forward mode (rather than just viewing a message) to cut; and I have to leave that message extant (postpone it, not cancel it). And if I want to copy into the addressbook, say, I have to have the prompt up to copy into. But there must be one more constraint, that I was satisfying before and have messed up. We haven't switched versions recently: still on pine 3.91 ... R. R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP), LC Edel sei der Mensch, Washington, DC 20540-4120 Hilfreich und gut! 202.707.8747 (shared line) Denn das allein neuswang@mail.loc.gov Unterscheidet ihn ... or (best) rrne@loc.gov -- Goethe No teratobibliotic entity avows *my* emanations. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 29 13:05:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29241; Thu, 29 Jun 95 13:05:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16719; Thu, 29 Jun 95 13:00:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16713; Thu, 29 Jun 95 13:00:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRPhd-00038CC; Thu, 29 Jun 95 12:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dagon@chinook.halcyon.com (Mark Rafn) Subject: Re: Howto remove quotes from username Date: 29 Jun 1995 19:37:51 GMT Message-Id: <3suvef$tt@news1.halcyon.com> References: <3sqd8q$s1@stingray.net> In article <3sqd8q$s1@stingray.net>, Matthew Cummings wrote: >How do I get rid of the quotes in my user name, that is, I want "Matthew P. >Cummings" to be Matthew P. Cummings > >It's not quoted in the setup screen. Names with punctuation require quotes around them. Remove the punctuation from the name, and the quotes disappear. -- Mark Rafn dagon@halcyon.com http://www.halcyon.com/dagon/ Decadence is its own reward. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 29 13:35:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00736; Thu, 29 Jun 95 13:35:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06164; Thu, 29 Jun 95 13:30:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06158; Thu, 29 Jun 95 13:30:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRQ8N-00038CC; Thu, 29 Jun 95 13:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chris@olive.ece.utexas.edu (Chris Griffin) Subject: Where to get pine Date: 29 Jun 1995 19:06:59 GMT Message-Id: <3sutkj$q4s@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Can someone tell me where to get pine? Chris From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 29 13:59:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01674; Thu, 29 Jun 95 13:59:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18226; Thu, 29 Jun 95 13:56:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18220; Thu, 29 Jun 95 13:56:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRQZX-00038CC; Thu, 29 Jun 95 13:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Gardiner Myers Subject: Re: IMAP coexisting w/POP3? Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 14:44:16 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3ss67m$kn6@news.asu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3ss67m$kn6@news.asu.edu> deafen@imap2.asu.edu writes: > Here's my question. Can IMAP service coexist with POP3 service? Am I > asking for trouble? Certainly. Both the c-client and Cyrus IMAP servers come with compatibility POP3 servers. Since you don't seem to have a significant number of users who can log into your mail server, the Cyrus IMAP server may be closer to your needs. See http://andrew2.andrew.cmu.edu/cyrus/imapd/ -- _.John G. Myers Internet: jgm+@CMU.EDU LoseNet: ...!seismo!ihnp4!wiscvm.wisc.edu!give!up From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 29 14:48:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04203; Thu, 29 Jun 95 14:48:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19474; Thu, 29 Jun 95 14:45:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19468; Thu, 29 Jun 95 14:45:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRRK1-00038LC; Thu, 29 Jun 95 14:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ranada@ifu.net (Gerald Ranada) Subject: pine resetting Date: 26 Jun 1995 18:17:24 GMT Message-Id: <3smtjk$3ut@eon.ecco.com> I have a problem concerning Pine 3.91 and after a couple of times loading it up and reading mail, it resets the .pinerc file. Is this some kind of bug that was solved a while ago? -- (-Gerald Ranada - System Administrator - http://www.ifu.net - 1984 is now-) (-Futurist/Cyberpunk/Info Enthusist - PGP Public Key available by request-) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 29 14:48:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04209; Thu, 29 Jun 95 14:48:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07996; Thu, 29 Jun 95 14:41:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07989; Thu, 29 Jun 95 14:41:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRRIb-00038CC; Thu, 29 Jun 95 14:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dmbarton@mci.net (Daniel Barton) Subject: Re: Howto remove quotes from username Date: 29 Jun 1995 21:06:30 GMT Message-Id: <3sv4km$3gf@news.internetmci.com> References: <3sqd8q$s1@stingray.net> In <3sqd8q$s1@stingray.net>, cummings@stingray.net (Matthew Cummings) writes: >How do I get rid of the quotes in my user name, that is, I want "Matthew P. >Cummings" to be Matthew P. Cummings A "." (period) is a special character, and requires your name to be in quotes. If you take out the period the quotes will go away. This is not a restriction to PINE, but a restriction in SMTP. Daniel --------------------------------------------------------------- | Daniel M. Barton Internet: dmbarton@mci.net | | MCI Internet Services Main: 800-773-6248 | | Cary, North Carolina, USA Vnet: 966-7674 | | World Wide Web: http://www.prov.mci.net | --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 29 15:15:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05740; Thu, 29 Jun 95 15:15:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08871; Thu, 29 Jun 95 15:11:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08865; Thu, 29 Jun 95 15:11:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRRhm-00038IC; Thu, 29 Jun 95 15:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rross@lang1.langara.bc.ca (Ron Ross) Subject: Re: Howto remove quotes from username Date: 29 Jun 1995 16:55:49 GMT Message-Id: <3sulul$nvf@vcc7.vcc.bc.ca> References: <3sqd8q$s1@stingray.net> Matthew Cummings (cummings@stingray.net) wrote: : How do I get rid of the quotes in my user name, that is, I want "Matthew P. : Cummings" to be Matthew P. Cummings Remove the "." from your user name. -- ___ Oo .:/ (___)o_o ,,///;, ,;/ //====--//(_) o:::::::;;/// Ron Ross \\ ^ >::::::::;;\\\ ''\\\\\'" ';\ I'd rather be diving !!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 29 16:20:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07673; Thu, 29 Jun 95 16:20:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21202; Thu, 29 Jun 95 16:15:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21196; Thu, 29 Jun 95 16:15:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRSn3-00038CC; Thu, 29 Jun 95 16:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cummings@stingray.net (Matthew Cummings) Subject: Howto remove quotes from username Date: 28 Jun 1995 02:03:06 -0000 Message-Id: <3sqd8q$s1@stingray.net> How do I get rid of the quotes in my user name, that is, I want "Matthew P. Cummings" to be Matthew P. Cummings It's not quoted in the setup screen. -- Internet: cummings@stingray.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 29 19:07:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13459; Thu, 29 Jun 95 19:07:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13408; Thu, 29 Jun 95 19:04:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13402; Thu, 29 Jun 95 19:04:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRVMy-00038IC; Thu, 29 Jun 95 18:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Howto remove quotes from username Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 21:49:36 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3sqd8q$s1@stingray.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3sqd8q$s1@stingray.net> On 28 Jun 1995, Matthew Cummings wrote: > How do I get rid of the quotes in my user name, that is, I want "Matthew P. > Cummings" to be Matthew P. Cummings > > It's not quoted in the setup screen. Remove the period or keep the quotes. Unfortunately, you can't have it both ways. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 29 19:48:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14313; Thu, 29 Jun 95 19:48:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24565; Thu, 29 Jun 95 19:44:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24559; Thu, 29 Jun 95 19:44:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRVz8-00038IC; Thu, 29 Jun 95 19:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gogan@email.unc.edu (Jim Gogan) Subject: Comments on Siren Mail? Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 16:11:55 GMT Message-Id: <3sujen$1hdf@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> We're looking right now at the commercial IMAP Windows mail client Siren Mail from Siren Software ("a division of Vicor, Inc."). So far, although we've seen some things that we feel need addressing, the user interface is nicer than ANYTHING else we've seen from the IMAP client end, and (finally) starts to approach some of the nicer interfaces of other LAN-based (non-SMTP/POP/IMAP based) mail packages. Right now, our campus has approximately 7,000 folks using DaVinci email across campus. For a variety of reasons, even though I'm the one who got 'em there quite a few years ago, it's time now to move them to an IMAP-based approach .... however, without a user interface more like what they've got now, they're gonna break my kneecaps if I propose moving to anything less. So ..... the short question is, anyone else looked at Siren Mail? If so, any comments, thoughts, feedback? Thanks. -- Jim Gogan (jim_gogan@unc.edu) Office of Information Technology Univ. of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 29 20:07:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14885; Thu, 29 Jun 95 20:07:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14300; Thu, 29 Jun 95 20:05:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14282; Thu, 29 Jun 95 20:05:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRWHz-00038IC; Thu, 29 Jun 95 19:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: horizon@nando.net (M.C.Matti) Subject: Survey forms via email? Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 17:47:44 -0500 Message-Id: Does anyone know of a reliable method to conduct a survey, including closed- and open-ended questions, via conventional e-mail connections? I work for an educational research company that needs to track the responses of a group of teachers as they go through a training/enrichment project in another state. It would save us a lot of postage and clerical costs if they could fill out the questionnaires we have planned via email, but I'm worried about ease-of-use (for them) and reliability (for us). We'd eventually want to funnel the responses into a SAS dataset. I've thought of a few ASCII based forms, but they seem awfully crude. I can't expect these people to grapple with binhex or uuencoding, either. Any suggestions, whether freeware, shareware, commercial, or creative? Thanks in advance. Michael -- h o r i z o n @ n a n d o . n e t From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 29 20:23:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15188; Thu, 29 Jun 95 20:23:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24997; Thu, 29 Jun 95 20:20:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24991; Thu, 29 Jun 95 20:20:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRWT8-00038IC; Thu, 29 Jun 95 20:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Dunkin Subject: Pine attachments and MIME labelling Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 13:47:03 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Looking at the source, Pine 3.91 decides how to `MIME label' a file one attaches to a message being created by peeking at the first few bytes, and checking these against a few built-in file types it knows about. Are there any plans for Pine to support the (arguably more flexible) `mime.types' mechanism, whereby the labelling for given file types may be configured externally by the user, in just the same way as the viewer for received mail may be configured with `mailcap' ? I. -- Ian Dunkin -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 29 21:04:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15964; Thu, 29 Jun 95 21:04:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15118; Thu, 29 Jun 95 21:01:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15112; Thu, 29 Jun 95 21:01:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRX9T-00038LC; Thu, 29 Jun 95 20:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mjm@mmatthew.fast.net (Michael J Matthews) Subject: Re: Syncing UNIX/POP mail Date: 30 Jun 1995 01:22:39 GMT Message-Id: <3svjkv$b4@nn.fast.net> References: <803681852.268.0@nifty.andrew.cmu.edu> In article <803681852.268.0@nifty.andrew.cmu.edu>, Chris Newman wrote: > csawyer@eciad.bc.ca (Cal Sawyer) writes: >> This posting updates some of the things I asked in comp.mail.misc >> regarding syncing mail reads across UNIX and POP. I tried this out again >> last night and reads actually DO sync but deletes definitely don't. I see >> this as being a much more crucial issue. Right now, I have to go and >> manually delete/expunge messages in Pine that I have 'deleted' in Eudora. >> Am I missing the point here or what re local/remote mail reading? Can >> anyone out there describe how/whether they can sync deletes across these >> packages? Is there a POP mail reader that can update the mail from my >> home directory on the server? > >The POP3 protocol has no provision for syncing deletes -- it just >transfers mail from the server to the client. IMAP4 can sync deletes >between different clients -- even if they're simultaneously connected >to the same mailstore. Check out: > http://andrew2.andrew.cmu.edu/cyrus/email/standards-IMAP.html >for more info about IMAP. >----- >Chris Newman , http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~cn0h/ >Protest the Communications Decency Act with George Carlin's 7 dirty >words in your sig: Shit, Piss, Fuck, Cunt, Cocksucker, Motherfucker, Tits POP3 most definitely can delete mail on a UNIX server mail spool. It can't keep various client mail databases in sync, how could it? That will be implemented different for each client. I wrote my on UNIX POP3 client software using a dos shareware starting point. I receive my mail, then I delete my mail. What's the problem? If I had a UNIX account on the server the mail would not be there after it was downloaded. If I chose to receive it and not delete it POP3 can support that too. -- Michael J Matthews mmatthew@fast.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 29 23:03:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18976; Thu, 29 Jun 95 23:03:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27128; Thu, 29 Jun 95 23:00:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27122; Thu, 29 Jun 95 23:00:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRZ0L-00038IC; Thu, 29 Jun 95 22:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "H. Cheung" Subject: Re: Howto remove quotes from username Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 11:25:42 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3sqd8q$s1@stingray.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3sqd8q$s1@stingray.net> > How do I get rid of the quotes in my user name, that is, I want "Matthew P. > Cummings" to be Matthew P. Cummings Well, seems like whenever you have a non-letter character, PINE will put the whole thing in quotes, and that's why you got the quotes ... Henry -- url http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/hecheung/ "Life is like a mist -- appearing for a little while and then vanishes!" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 30 01:14:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21884; Fri, 30 Jun 95 01:14:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18889; Fri, 30 Jun 95 01:10:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18883; Fri, 30 Jun 95 01:10:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRb7c-00038IC; Fri, 30 Jun 95 01:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: knowing message number while printing ? Date: 30 Jun 1995 02:59:21 -0500 Message-Id: I use a script to print Pine mail messages (with the Y command). The script formats the message (header and body), converts it to postscript and places a running header on each page. Currently I put there the originator userid, the mail date, and the subject. I will find useful to put there also the folder the mail was in, and the sequence number of the message in the folder. Is there some undocumented way of making that available to the printing script ? I'm currently using Pine 3.89 (waiting for 3.92). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 30 03:31:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24897; Fri, 30 Jun 95 03:31:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00283; Fri, 30 Jun 95 03:26:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00277; Fri, 30 Jun 95 03:26:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRdCt-00038IC; Fri, 30 Jun 95 03:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tsujoho@eua.ericsson.se (Johan Holmberg) Subject: Bug in 3.91 when replying to msg with attachment ? Date: 30 Jun 1995 09:55:44 GMT Message-Id: When I reply to a message that has attachments, the text that is included from "original message" doesn't handle Quoted Printable characters correctly. It looks like this (in Swedish :-): ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE H=E4r kommer ett test till: r=E4ksm=F6rg=E5s ! /johan On Fri, 30 Jun 1995, Johan Holmberg wrote: > > Kan du l=3DE4sa det jag skickar ? > Eller =3DE4r det problem =3DE4ven n=3DE4r man > skickar =3DE5t detta h=3DE5=ll ? > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- As you can see the new text I have written is OK, but the included text has been QP-ed TWO times: 1) the swedish characters (from iso-8859-1) have been QP-ed, eg: 'ä' ---> '=E4' 2) the equal-character has been QP-ed: '=E4' ---> '=3DE4' This problem doesn't oocur if the original message doesnt have an attachment. I think the problem is that PINE for some reason dosn't understand that the included text is in "iso-latin-1". For example if I only send the included text and don't write any new iso-latin-1 characters, the message is delivered as: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is this a well-known problem ? Is there any patch for this ? /johan holmberg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 30 06:12:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28830; Fri, 30 Jun 95 06:12:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22746; Fri, 30 Jun 95 06:06:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22740; Fri, 30 Jun 95 06:06:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRflj-00038CC; Fri, 30 Jun 95 06:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: robh@gate.topnet.nl () Subject: quoting Date: 30 Jun 1995 11:53:54 GMT Message-Id: <3t0oki$l3h@gate.topnet.nl> hi all, is there a way to customize the starting quote-line (On ... Joe wrote :) ?? Rob From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 30 06:42:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29322; Fri, 30 Jun 95 06:42:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02486; Fri, 30 Jun 95 06:36:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02480; Fri, 30 Jun 95 06:36:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRgC3-00038CC; Fri, 30 Jun 95 06:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: poulj000@orville.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (James Poulakos) Subject: How to resume a stopped pine process? Date: 30 Jun 1995 13:05:14 GMT Message-Id: <3t0sqa$rmt@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> I must have accidentally typed control Z or control S. My pine program is "stopped," according to the output of the ps command in UNIX, but I was in the middle of a huge letter! When I restart pine, I get a new process that is readonly. How can I resume or restart the old process and get my letter back on the screen? I can't find this in the docs or the newsgroup.... -- ----------------------------------------------- James Poulakos poulj000@goofy.zdv.uni-mainz.de engjcp@gsusgi2.gsu.edu http://www.gsu.edu/~engjcp/zero.html +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Unpublished work Copyright 1995 James Poulakos. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 30 06:57:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29611; Fri, 30 Jun 95 06:57:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23290; Fri, 30 Jun 95 06:51:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23284; Fri, 30 Jun 95 06:51:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRgPD-00038CC; Fri, 30 Jun 95 06:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: How to resume a stopped pine process? Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 09:42:58 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3t0sqa$rmt@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3t0sqa$rmt@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> On 30 Jun 1995, James Poulakos wrote: > I must have accidentally typed control Z or control S. My pine program is > "stopped," according to the output of the ps command in UNIX, but I was > in the middle of a huge letter! > > When I restart pine, I get a new process that is readonly. How can I resume > or restart the old process and get my letter back on the screen? I can't > find this in the docs or the newsgroup.... From the prompt, type "fg" (no quotation marks) to put the stopped process, in this case Pine, back in the "foreground." I actually use this feeature frequently and deliberately when I want to exit momentarily to perform some other task and then go back to Pine. It is quite useful. When Pine returns to the foreground, it repaints the screen. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 30 07:37:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00523; Fri, 30 Jun 95 07:37:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03094; Fri, 30 Jun 95 07:31:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03088; Fri, 30 Jun 95 07:31:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRh4w-00038CC; Fri, 30 Jun 95 07:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: natkin@clark.net (Todd Natkin) Subject: Re: quoting Date: 30 Jun 1995 14:32:58 GMT Message-Id: <3t11uq$ggc@clarknet.clark.net> References: <3t0oki$l3h@gate.topnet.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Same question I posted around a week ago, with no response yet. Perhaps we will finally get an answer [even if the answer is wait for 3.92]. /Todd robh@gate.topnet.nl wrote: : hi all, : is there a way to customize the starting quote-line (On ... Joe wrote :) ?? : Rob ======================================================================== Please "finger -l natkin@clark.net" for PGP public key & WWW home page ======================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 30 08:39:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02646; Fri, 30 Jun 95 08:39:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24972; Fri, 30 Jun 95 08:31:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24966; Fri, 30 Jun 95 08:31:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRhzz-00038CC; Fri, 30 Jun 95 08:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: How to resume a stopped pine process? Date: 30 Jun 1995 15:23:25 GMT Message-Id: <3t14td$iuj@news1.wolfe.net> References: <3t0sqa$rmt@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Paul O Bartlett writes: > From the prompt, type "fg" (no quotation marks) to put the stopped >process, in this case Pine, back in the "foreground." And if you've suspended more than one program, you can type `jobs' get a list of the programs and their numbers and then type `fg %n' to bring job n into the foreground, e.g., to bring job 2 into the foreground, type: fg %2 Enjoy, Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 30 09:39:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05610; Fri, 30 Jun 95 09:39:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05460; Fri, 30 Jun 95 09:31:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05454; Fri, 30 Jun 95 09:31:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRiu4-00038CC; Fri, 30 Jun 95 09:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fiarlori@galileo (Francesco IARLORI) Subject: Pine, delete messages, folder incorrect, .. Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 12:36:18 GMT Hi all, I compiled too many time Pine, using cc, gcc, many flags but I'm not able to delete messages from my folder. I use 'D' to mark, after 'X' to expunge but when I close and reopen the incoming box, for instance, the messages still remain in the file.. I have also incompatiblity problem using both pine and elm, some messages are visible by elm but not from pine, some time I got the message: mailbox inalidated, consult an expert ?!?! Perhaps is a platform problem ? I'm tryiing a port in a non standard SVR4 platform, but it seems a configuration problem, in fact all the rest of the package works fine ... Some hints ... tnx a lot in advance Francesco -- ``` (o o) +-------------------oOO--(_)--OOo--------------------+ | [7mFrancesco IARLORI[m | | Bull HN Italy R&D - System House | | System Engineer | | | | E-mail: Francesco.Iarlori@i2u.it (Personal) | | F.Iarlori@it12.bull.it (Company ) | | Hyper.: http://www.i2u.it/fiarlori.html | +----------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 30 11:48:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10820; Fri, 30 Jun 95 11:48:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29720; Fri, 30 Jun 95 11:42:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29714; Fri, 30 Jun 95 11:42:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRkwx-00038HC; Fri, 30 Jun 95 11:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: IMAP and PC Pine for Windows questions Date: 30 Jun 1995 18:20:11 GMT Message-Id: <3t1f8r$mbv@news1.wolfe.net> References: <3sn7s4$btb@news1.wolfe.net> Thanks for the info David. Some more questions are below... dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller) writes: |On 26 Jun 1995, Nancy McGough wrote: || * When I specify the folder directory that's on my host, to be accessed || with IMAP, what is the best host name to use? Both the shell (e.g., || {shell.foo.com}Folders/[]) and the smtp host (e.g., {mail.foo.com}Folders/[]) || work but I'm wondering which is better, or if it matters. These have || different IP numbers, so they really do seem to be different. | |If both machines have the same folders, one of them is probably NFS |mounting from the other (or a third). Getting NFS out of the look is |always recommended. Other than asking the sys admin, how can I tell which is the NFS mounted one? || * Is there a compiled version of pcpine_w that lets you change the From header? | |Not that I am aware of. You can change the username and user-domain in |PC-Pine though... This does work but the username is what is suggested when you do the IMAP log in, so you need to delete it and type in your real username. || * How can I put commas in a customized header? In Unix Pine || I use environment variables, e.g., $ORGANIZATION - do env || variable work in PC Pine? Even if they do, I'm curious || how to put commas in a customized header without using || an env variable. | |You can include commas in a quoted string, e.g. | | X-Warning: "this is a ,,,,, comma test" But then the quotes show up - does anyone know how to get around that in PC Pine for Windows? Thanks, Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 30 12:37:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12678; Fri, 30 Jun 95 12:37:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09021; Fri, 30 Jun 95 12:32:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09015; Fri, 30 Jun 95 12:32:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRllC-00038CC; Fri, 30 Jun 95 12:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ronald D. Kurr" Subject: SOLARIS 2.4 & PINE 3.91 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 09:27:11 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can anyone give me a site for a Solaris 2.4 binary? My buddy tried building the pine 3.91 source on Solaris 2.4 and was less than successful. I'm hoping that somebody has already worked out the kinks. :-) /> Ronald Kurr // kurr@ctron.com (//////[O]>========================================- \\ W: 603-337-7363 \> H: 603-895-0246 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 30 14:26:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17630; Fri, 30 Jun 95 14:26:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11570; Fri, 30 Jun 95 14:21:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11560; Fri, 30 Jun 95 14:21:10 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09424; Fri, 30 Jun 95 14:21:04 -0700 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 14:20:56 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Ian Dunkin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine attachments and MIME labelling In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Pine 3.92 will support mime.types... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 20 Jun 1995, Ian Dunkin wrote: > Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 13:47:03 +0100 > From: Ian Dunkin > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Pine attachments and MIME labelling > > > Looking at the source, Pine 3.91 decides how to `MIME label' a file one > attaches to a message being created by peeking at the first few bytes, > and checking these against a few built-in file types it knows about. > > Are there any plans for Pine to support the (arguably more flexible) > `mime.types' mechanism, whereby the labelling for given file types may > be configured externally by the user, in just the same way as the viewer > for received mail may be configured with `mailcap' ? > > I. > > -- > Ian Dunkin > -- > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL/Rqvd/IU4uTDdHNAQFjYQIAhcRCrDp0ZLYMIWLf38BV1LrwUttnYF8M E4lqmNF8c7heFaOjOLkull1+wvx2ll7dSYe8TrHQ19V8xYlpd8M6fg== =hCOO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 30 17:51:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26658; Fri, 30 Jun 95 17:51:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16361; Fri, 30 Jun 95 17:48:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16355; Fri, 30 Jun 95 17:47:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRqfo-00038CC; Fri, 30 Jun 95 17:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brian Showalter Subject: Re: Pine - Folder Lock/Readonly Date: 30 Jun 1995 11:52:50 GMT Message-Id: <3t0oii$par@head.globalcom.net> sfg@nexus.interealm.com wrote: >I had this happen to me once. What had happened is I had more than one >pine session running at a time and the first had control of the folder. >I exited both and still could not get control back till I killed the pid. >Good luck. I'm having the same problem when I log in as a regular user. The message I get is a little different - "Can't open folder lock - access is READONLY." This message still appears even after a cold reboot. I've checked the /var/run directory - no pid files there. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian R. Showalter showalte@globalcom.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 30 18:27:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27883; Fri, 30 Jun 95 18:27:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09491; Fri, 30 Jun 95 18:23:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09485; Fri, 30 Jun 95 18:23:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRrDN-00038CC; Fri, 30 Jun 95 18:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pluong@axpvms.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Freenets with PINE? Date: 30 Jun 1995 19:04:42 -0500 Message-Id: which freenets out there have the PINE mail reader? "Imagine life without PINE" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 30 19:19:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29242; Fri, 30 Jun 95 19:19:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17551; Fri, 30 Jun 95 19:15:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17545; Fri, 30 Jun 95 19:15:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRs2y-00038CC; Fri, 30 Jun 95 19:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wendt@umich.edu (Wendt) Subject: File attachments Date: 1 Jul 1995 00:21:07 GMT Message-Id: <3t24dk$beh@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Not seeing a FAQ file, I was wondering if anyone can help me.. I need to know how to send file attachments such as text files or UUencoded files. When I sent test files, the other end said it looked like garbage. Does this have something to do with using MIME which I am also unfamiliar. Any help is appreciated. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 30 20:37:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00690; Fri, 30 Jun 95 20:37:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11318; Fri, 30 Jun 95 20:33:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11312; Fri, 30 Jun 95 20:33:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRtGv-00038CC; Fri, 30 Jun 95 20:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lee Campbell Subject: IMAP question Date: 1 Jul 1995 03:16:14 GMT Message-Id: <3t2elu$8a1@riscsm.scripps.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm trying to use PC-Pine for the first time in a mostly Unix environment. Our mail server is a Sun Sparc 10 running SMTP. I've been using a PC-based mail reader for some time now, without having an IMAPD running on the server. What is IMAP? Can PINE run without IMAPD? If not, where can I get IMAPD? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 30 20:49:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00860; Fri, 30 Jun 95 20:49:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18478; Fri, 30 Jun 95 20:45:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18472; Fri, 30 Jun 95 20:45:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sRtQl-00038CC; Fri, 30 Jun 95 20:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: david@services.more.net (David Drum) Subject: Re: Freenets with PINE? Date: 1 Jul 1995 02:49:02 GMT Message-Id: <3t2d2u$kiu@news.missouri.edu> References: pluong@axpvms.cc.utexas.edu wrote: : which freenets out there have the PINE mail reader? I am associated with several freenets in Missouri and they all use Pine. Total population, about 27000 right now. Regards, David david@services.more.net -- "That man has a rare gift for obfuscation." -- ST:DS9