From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 1 00:38:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08648; Sat, 1 Apr 95 00:38:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01020; Sat, 1 Apr 95 00:33:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01014; Sat, 1 Apr 95 00:33:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ruya5-00038CC; Sat, 1 Apr 95 00:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shuford@scs.unr.edu (Brian Shuford) Subject: Need signature help? Date: 31 Mar 1995 20:25:00 GMT Message-Id: <3lhoes$omo@silver.scs.unr.edu> I am trying to find out how to make a nice signature file. Is this done by just using a editor(Pico) and painstaking making one or is thier a better way to make a nice one, like with a picture or image of something. I see alot of nice sig. with things i could never make. If so could someone please tell me how or is there a FAQ on this Thanks, Shuford@pogonip.scs.unr.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 1 01:29:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10034; Sat, 1 Apr 95 01:29:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13635; Sat, 1 Apr 95 01:24:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13629; Sat, 1 Apr 95 01:24:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ruzJU-00038CC; Sat, 1 Apr 95 01:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cccdavid@mark.ucdavis.edu (Dave Zavatson) Subject: Re: HELP: Posts from Pine 3.91 only showing up locally! Date: 31 Mar 1995 21:07:57 GMT Message-Id: <3lhqvd$ql4@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: dmg@postoffice.ptd.net wrote: [snipsnipsnip] : I have compared the headers of the messages posted with the two : messages. The only main differences that I see are in the message-id : line and the fact that the pine posted message has an X-Sender line. : The message-id line in the pine posted msg starts with pine and a : version number. Also, the bit referring to my email is truncated : from dmg@ns1.ptd.net to dmg@ns1. The message id in the manually : posted message looks more like my real email address. The X-Sender : line in the pine posted message truncates my email address to : dmg@ns1 ... I suspect that the messages are being posted, but the auto replies are not being sent to you because of your munged from line. One workaround is to set 'user-domain' to postoffice.ptd.net in the pine config. --Dave -- ''' (o o) /----------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo------------------------------------\ | David Zavatson |Mein Schatz, es ist soweit. Unsere Liebe ist vorbei.| |dhzavatson@ucdavis.edu |Ich kann nicht von Dir gehen. Zwei Gefuehle bleiben | | UCD IT Systems Group | stehen: Liebe und Hass, sind sich doch so nah. -ECO| \-----------------------------------------------------------------------------/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 1 01:47:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10692; Sat, 1 Apr 95 01:47:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02088; Sat, 1 Apr 95 01:43:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02082; Sat, 1 Apr 95 01:43:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ruzdm-00038CC; Sat, 1 Apr 95 01:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cccdavid@mark.ucdavis.edu (Dave Zavatson) Subject: Re: WHERE to find listserv/listproc? Date: 31 Mar 1995 21:14:52 GMT Message-Id: <3lhrcc$ql4@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <3lagpe$frp@nntp.crl.com> John Dulaney (jdulaney@crl.com) wrote: : I've serached and searched! : All help - MANY THANKS! : John listproc 6.0c can be found at cs-ftp.bu.edu in /pub/listserv --dave -- ''' (o o) /----------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo------------------------------------\ | David Zavatson |Mein Schatz, es ist soweit. Unsere Liebe ist vorbei.| |dhzavatson@ucdavis.edu |Ich kann nicht von Dir gehen. Zwei Gefuehle bleiben | | UCD IT Systems Group | stehen: Liebe und Hass, sind sich doch so nah. -ECO| \-----------------------------------------------------------------------------/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 1 02:32:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11766; Sat, 1 Apr 95 02:32:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14441; Sat, 1 Apr 95 02:28:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14435; Sat, 1 Apr 95 02:28:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rv0LR-00038CC; Sat, 1 Apr 95 02:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roman Czyborra Subject: Re: Pine Assuming Mailed Replies are News Articles - a solution Date: Sat, 01 Apr 1995 10:26:05 +0200 Message-Id: References: <3l2itn$atr@hustle.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > This simple rule will suffice to avoid the problem being discussed: > If a message has no Path: header, post no News follow-ups to it. I hate to tell you. If I copy a mail message to a newsgroup they both contain a To and Newsgroups but the mail will only have Received lines but no Path and you will still want to follow up to all recipients. I also strip the longish Path when I save articles from within my news reader that I want to followup to with my mail composer. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 1 12:34:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26982; Sat, 1 Apr 95 12:34:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10449; Sat, 1 Apr 95 12:24:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10443; Sat, 1 Apr 95 12:24:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rv9e1-00038CC; Sat, 1 Apr 95 12:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Billy Bob Subject: Pine switched versions on me. Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 20:06:19 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have an unusal Question. I opened up pine, (on a sun machine) after having used it for about ohhh, ever since they first came out with Pine 3.91, but this evening when I started pine, it said welcome to a new verstion of Pine, 3.89 At first I though someone played a joke adn broke into my accout, so I exited but stared it up again aobut 1 min later. I got teh same message but it said Pine 3.91. Can anyone come up with a resonable explanation for this? John RealityIsAnIllusionOfTheMind.ButReally,HowCanThatBeRealWhenTheRealityOfItCame FromSomeone'sMind.GettingReallyDeep,TheRealnessOfRealityIsReallyJustAReality ThatManyHaveNotFaced.AndInManyCasesTheyLooseTouchWithReality.SoReally,WhereDoes RealityBegin. (jgraham@herbie.unl.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 1 13:47:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28499; Sat, 1 Apr 95 13:47:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22967; Sat, 1 Apr 95 13:34:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22961; Sat, 1 Apr 95 13:34:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvAjT-00038DC; Sat, 1 Apr 95 13:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: Question: How to set a Forwarding Address - Pine for VMS Message-Id: <17373EAFCS86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <0098E30C.CFC075DF@pomona.edu> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 15:42:27 GMT In article <0098E30C.CFC075DF@pomona.edu> jlethen@pomona.edu (Jan Lethen: EdServ Intern x1885) writes: >here's what I want to do. I want to have Pine automatically forward all my >mail to a different account, a different system, a different address. How do I >do this? I'm not sure that the command would be specific to VMS Pine, it may >be the same for all ... I am answering in the context of Yehavi's VMS port of PINE. If you are asking the question in a PMDF context, you will have to get the correct answer from someone else. PINE is a mail client, it does not process incoming mail until you execute it. On VAX/VMS systems, incoming mail is handled by the VMS MAIL system. If you want your incoming mail forwarded automatically, you have to set the VMS MAIL routines to do it for you. PINE cannot do this, as it does not see the incoming mail until you log on and execute PINE! >From the VMS system prompt, issue the MAIL command, and at the MAIL> prompt, issue a SET FORWARD command. You will need to know the correct format for mail addresses on your VMS MAIL system. On mine it would be SMTP%"someuser@some.domain.edu" for an Internet recipient. Hope this helps. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 1 14:43:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00115; Sat, 1 Apr 95 14:43:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12124; Sat, 1 Apr 95 14:39:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12118; Sat, 1 Apr 95 14:39:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvBnm-00038CC; Sat, 1 Apr 95 14:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roman Czyborra Subject: Re: Pine Assuming Mailed Replies are News Articles - a solution Date: Sat, 01 Apr 1995 10:42:37 +0200 Message-Id: References: <3k2srv$7t3@yage.tembel.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Personally, I wish there were a standard header that meant a message had > been both mailed and posted, because some people do this as a matter of > course, and I'd like to be able to easily tell procmail to throw such > messages away. RFC 1036 already defines that the "Newsgroups" line says where the message was posted to. I would tell procmail to automatically append the Message-IDs of those mails to my killfile if I was stressed by having to read the followups to my postings a second time in news. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 1 14:44:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00136; Sat, 1 Apr 95 14:44:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23749; Sat, 1 Apr 95 14:39:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23743; Sat, 1 Apr 95 14:39:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvBo5-00038DC; Sat, 1 Apr 95 14:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roman Czyborra Subject: Re: Pine Assuming Mailed Replies are News Articles - a solution Date: Sat, 01 Apr 1995 10:44:13 +0200 Message-Id: References: <3jdj0h$pgk@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <3jj01t$lue@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> <794865010.8894.0@nifty.andrew.cmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Chris, > it violates RFC 1036: The use of the "Newsgroups" header for > different purposes in mail and news effectively violates the > sentence I've marked with "*". I also note that this states that > USENET is a set of _extensions_ to RFC-822. You've proven it. I cited this in the request I sent to my news gurus to correct our trn MAILHEADER configuration so we use In-Reply-To instead of the wrong Newsgroups in private emails. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 1 20:19:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07828; Sat, 1 Apr 95 20:19:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27954; Sat, 1 Apr 95 20:15:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27948; Sat, 1 Apr 95 20:15:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvH1L-00038CC; Sat, 1 Apr 95 20:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: caz@zimnet.hanse.de (Carsten Zimmermann) Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 ?? Message-Id: References: Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 12:56:00 GMT Lars Diel (chriss@geo.ruhr.de) wrote: : Hello! Hello again, : system. When I type in build --help then there are many systems, but I do : not found Linux. And the readme file does not exists in the /doc. : But when I type build lnx then Pico build hisself. But it comes a error : for Pine. Sorry when I can not perfect explain, I am new at Linux. :) What error ? I build pine 3.91 three days ago with gcc-264-050395 and everything went well. lnx should be the right parameter for build. Carsten -- ***************************************************************************** *Carsten * caz@zimnet.hanse.de * "Problem ... -> * *Zimmermann * * Loesung ... " * *Hamburg-Barmbek * zimmermann@physnet.uni-hamburg.de * (Al Bundy) * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 1 20:21:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07916; Sat, 1 Apr 95 20:21:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16512; Sat, 1 Apr 95 20:15:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16506; Sat, 1 Apr 95 20:15:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvH1q-00038DC; Sat, 1 Apr 95 20:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: caz@zimnet.hanse.de (Carsten Zimmermann) Subject: Re: user-domain doesn't work when it's a subset of hostname? Message-Id: References: <3ldaeh$t38@ddi2.digital.net> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 13:00:23 GMT Howard Goldstein (hgoldste@bbs.mpcs.com) wrote: : This is strange! My hostname is penny.n2wx.ampr.org, but I have : n2wx.ampr.org CNAMEd to it and wish to use the shorter version on : my outgoing email. : For some reason 3.91 ignores my user-domain setting and it also disregards : the use-only-domain-setting when I tried that. : 3.91 happily uses a user-domain parameter that differs from my hostname. I have a similar problem. I want to set the message-id to my domain name but i don't know how. The From Header is alright. I haven't found any possibility to change this behaviour. If i have some time left i will search in the source code. Carsten -- ***************************************************************************** *Carsten * caz@zimnet.hanse.de * "Problem ... -> * *Zimmermann * * Loesung ... " * *Hamburg-Barmbek * zimmermann@physnet.uni-hamburg.de * (Al Bundy) * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 1 20:54:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08613; Sat, 1 Apr 95 20:54:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16959; Sat, 1 Apr 95 20:50:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16953; Sat, 1 Apr 95 20:50:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvHWp-00038CC; Sat, 1 Apr 95 20:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jlethen@pomona.edu (Jan Lethen: EdServ Intern x1885) Subject: Question: How to set a Forwarding Address - Pine for VMS Date: Sat, 01 Apr 1995 00:27:42 GMT Message-Id: <0098E30C.CFC075DF@pomona.edu> Hi everyone, I've looked through the faq and the user guide and couldn't find the answer. I played with fcc settings in the pine.pinerc file. All to no avail ... here's what I want to do. I want to have Pine automatically forward all my mail to a different account, a different system, a different address. How do I do this? I'm not sure that the command would be specific to VMS Pine, it may be the same for all ... Any help much appreciated. Thanks! Jan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 1 22:38:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00505; Sat, 1 Apr 95 22:38:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29655; Sat, 1 Apr 95 22:35:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29649; Sat, 1 Apr 95 22:35:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvJAK-00038CC; Sat, 1 Apr 95 22:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: noe@io.org (Noe Zamel) Subject: Mail, News and Folders? Message-Id: Date: 27 Mar 95 09:30:44 GMT Unfortunately, I now have 5 internet accounts and I'm trying to consolodate all my mail on one account. I have one account with POP and IMAP servers so I can forward all my mail to this account and retreive it with a SLIP POP3 client at home and with PINE at the university. However, when I set my inbox to in pine it prompts me for a username and password. I was hoping there is some way I can program PINE to enter my username and password automatically so I don't have to type them every time I check my mail. I also have a similar problem with mail. The account I generally work from at the university doesn't have an NNTP server. I have another account that does have this but if I set up PINE for that NNTP server I am denied access. Is there some way to get pine to enter in a username and password for an NNTP server? Finally, someone told me that you can set up PINE to automatically file new messages from a specific address to a specific folder (i.e. you can automatically save newslist messages to their own folders). Is this true, and if so, how do you do it? Thanks for any help you can give me, Ricardo Zamel University of Toronto From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 01:44:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04855; Sun, 2 Apr 95 01:44:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20752; Sun, 2 Apr 95 01:41:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20746; Sun, 2 Apr 95 01:41:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvM6x-00038WC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 01:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cdr@u.washington.edu (2277 Ramirez) Subject: How to create/maintain LARGE address lists? Date: 1 Apr 1995 21:11:19 GMT Message-Id: <3lkfhn$dmk@nntp3.u.washington.edu> Hello All. I'm looking for a way to create and maintain (delete & add names, etc.) a list of over 1000 e-mail addresses. I don't have root privileges--is there some way I can do this? Any help would be immensely appreciated. TIA. SCT From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 06:37:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10671; Sun, 2 Apr 95 06:37:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23707; Sun, 2 Apr 95 06:32:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from chrissy.raritanval.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23701; Sun, 2 Apr 95 06:32:34 -0700 Received: by athena.raritanval.edu (8.3/NetBSD-0.9) id JAA00613; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 09:27:38 -0700 Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1970 08:55:36 -500 (EST) From: Peter Schroeck To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Setting date/time Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII April 2, 9:30 a.m. Can anyone help me in setting the time and date on "pine"? Mine read Feb. 1980 (see date of this message). Thanks for any help. Peter From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 15:09:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21706; Sun, 2 Apr 95 15:09:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11139; Sun, 2 Apr 95 15:01:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11133; Sun, 2 Apr 95 15:01:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvXg4-00038qC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 14:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rashid@haven.ios.com (Rashid Karimov.) Subject: pine "user@domain" < FILE - doesn't work ? Date: 2 Apr 1995 21:05:07 GMT Message-Id: <3ln3i3$ldi@ankh.iia.org> Hi folx , The Q is why ? I have Pine 3.91 on FreeBSD/SunOS 413/Sol 2.4. Frankly I don't care , since I use elm , but thousands of users do :( They love pine :) , and they can't use it from tin to (re)mail the article. Sure there are workarounds - like first saving the article to the file, or setenv MAIL elm - but they want it to work in normal way. And .. this is Unix for Gods sake ! The ability of a program to accept its data from STDIN being redirected to open file (by shell) is one of _very basic concepts of Unices ... I help this article will cause a laugh at U of Wash., since it was fixed already ? :)) And what's the official site for pine ? I tried to reach one mentioned at ftp.uu.net as be a primary , but wasn't able to resolve the name : ftp.cac.washington.edu: Host name lookup failure I would appr. pers. E-mail as well :) -- ==== SY RK From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 16:20:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23127; Sun, 2 Apr 95 16:20:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00821; Sun, 2 Apr 95 16:11:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00815; Sun, 2 Apr 95 16:11:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvYmq-00038CC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 16:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bill Wachspress Subject: Re: Global addressboks for Pine Message-Id: Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 16:06:03 -0500 References: <3lcdg0$bon@lynx.unm.edu> In-Reply-To: <3lcdg0$bon@lynx.unm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 29 Mar 1995, Lew Newby Jr. wrote: > How can I create a Global address book and a correct reference to it > in the .pinerc? Also would this work in PC-Pine? In pine 3.91, I added a global addressbook from the 'S'etup 'C'onfig menu. BUT if you want to modify the addressbook from pine after creating it then you need to implement it as a shared addressbook rather than a global addressbook. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 17:20:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24551; Sun, 2 Apr 95 17:20:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12620; Sun, 2 Apr 95 17:01:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12614; Sun, 2 Apr 95 17:01:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvZWM-00038DC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 16:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shields@tembel.org (Michael Shields) Subject: Re: Pine Assuming Mailed Replies are News Articles - a solution Date: 1 Apr 1995 22:07:46 -0000 Message-Id: <3lkiri$kbh@yage.tembel.org> References: <3k2srv$7t3@yage.tembel.org> In article , Roman Czyborra wrote: [I wrote:] > > Personally, I wish there were a standard header that meant a message had > > been both mailed and posted, because some people do this as a matter of > > course, and I'd like to be able to easily tell procmail to throw such > > messages away. > > RFC 1036 already defines that the "Newsgroups" line says where the > message was posted to. I would tell procmail to automatically append > the Message-IDs of those mails to my killfile if I was stressed by > having to read the followups to my postings a second time in news. I don't want to read them in mail. I want to read them in news. If you want me to reply in mail, mail it. If you want me to reply in news, post it. Don't do both. I ca'n't tell procmail to discard all mail with a Newsgroups: header because Pnews uses it differently. -- Shields. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 18:06:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25583; Sun, 2 Apr 95 18:06:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02233; Sun, 2 Apr 95 18:01:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02227; Sun, 2 Apr 95 18:01:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvaTM-00038CC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 17:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: szoltek@osf1.gmu.edu (S. M. Zoltek) Subject: Linux/Pine spell checking problem Date: 2 Apr 1995 06:25:06 GMT Message-Id: <3llg02$ubt@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am running Pine under Linux (1.2.2 POSIX). When I try to spell check a message, I get the ispell help screen. This is the exact message that appears if I type spell or ispell at the system prompt. This help screen appears on my screen but the actual message can be accessed by typing ^L. If anyone has had this problem and solved it, please let me know what to do. -- szoltek@gmu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 19:31:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27590; Sun, 2 Apr 95 19:31:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14561; Sun, 2 Apr 95 19:26:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14555; Sun, 2 Apr 95 19:26:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvbq1-00038FC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 19:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: allan@bart.IS.NET (Allan Chong) Subject: Bug with Pine, Sol2.3, and NFS Date: 3 Apr 1995 02:16:44 GMT Message-Id: <3lnlqc$4pv@news1.is.net> We're trying to run pine over an NFS mounted mail spool. It locks up and won't read the inbox. It seems that there is some problem with locking over NFS. The FAQ and the archive don't seem to have any solutions. Anyone else out there encounter this? allan allan@is.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 22:14:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01652; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:14:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16770; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:03:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16764; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:03:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rveFA-00038HC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu (Supak Lailert) Subject: Re: pine startup Date: 3 Apr 1995 03:34:58 GMT Message-Id: <3lnqd2$ae4@pandora.sdsu.edu> References: Joseph H Greenwald (jgreen@ctron.com) wrote: : How do I make pine startup by opening my INBOX? : I'm on an SGI running pine 3.91 >From main menu, go into config screen (press S and then C). Find an option named "initial-keystroke-list", press A to add value to it. It will execute those keystroke as if you type it on start up. In your case, add just an 'i' (without quote). Supak -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Supak Lailert -- MBA (IS) Program, San Diego State University >> >> lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu lailert@mail.sdsu.edu >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 22:15:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01689; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:15:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05555; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:03:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05549; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:03:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rveFE-00038KC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu (Supak Lailert) Subject: Re: pine "user@domain" < FILE - doesn't work ? Date: 3 Apr 1995 03:39:55 GMT Message-Id: <3lnqmb$aeb@pandora.sdsu.edu> References: <3ln3i3$ldi@ankh.iia.org> Input/output redirect won't work--clearly stated in PINE documentation... It should, though. : The ability of a program to accept its data from STDIN being redirected : to open file (by shell) is one of _very basic concepts of Unices ... : And what's the official site for pine ? I tried to reach one : mentioned at ftp.uu.net as be a primary , but wasn't able to : resolve the name : : ftp.cac.washington.edu: Host name lookup failure Try using IP address: 140.142.4.6 Supak -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Supak Lailert -- MBA (IS) Program, San Diego State University >> >> lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu lailert@mail.sdsu.edu >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 22:16:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01726; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:16:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05547; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:03:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05541; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:03:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rveD4-00038DC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 21:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Phil Adams Subject: How do I unlock my INBOX Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 22:16:39 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am using popclient to download my mail from my internet provider to my Linux machine. The problem is that Pine (3.91) thinks my INBOX is locked any time I get mail. The only thing I have found in the docs is that the INBOX of one Pine session gets locked if another Pine session is invoked. I am not doing this. Does anyone know what Pine uses to determine if a mailbox is locked, so I can unlock it? I have looked in my lock directories and there is nothing there. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 22:16:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01759; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:16:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16868; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:08:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16862; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:08:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rveKW-00038CC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joseph H Greenwald Subject: pine startup Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 11:23:33 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do I make pine startup by opening my INBOX? I'm on an SGI running pine 3.91 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph H. Greenwald E-mail: jgreen@ctron.com Cabletron Systems, Inc. Voice: (603) 337-7352 Engineering - Durham Fax: (603) 337-7370 P.O. Box 5005 Rochester, NH 03866-5005 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 23:13:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03088; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:13:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06504; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:08:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06498; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:08:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvfIO-00038CC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley) Subject: Re: Pine Assuming Mailed Replies are News Articles - a solution Date: 1 Apr 1995 21:07:27 GMT Message-Id: <3lkfaf$bg1@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> References: <3k2srv$7t3@yage.tembel.org> In article , Roman Czyborra wrote: >> Personally, I wish there were a standard header that meant a message had >> been both mailed and posted, because some people do this as a matter of > >RFC 1036 already defines RFC 1036 doesn't apply to mail. >message was posted to. I would tell procmail to automatically append >the Message-IDs of those mails to my killfile if I was stressed by >having to read the followups to my postings a second time in news. You don't get it. The statement dealt with dropping them from mail, not from news. You see, some people think that recreational discussions should take place in a recreational forum like news, and mail should be for more important things. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 23:41:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03685; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:41:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18214; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:38:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18208; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:38:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvfm0-00038CC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phil@ERC.MsState.Edu (Phillip Moore) Subject: Mail file compression Date: 2 Apr 1995 02:30:34 GMT Message-Id: <3ll28a$k2v@NNTP.MsState.Edu> Are there any plans on making Pine be able to read gziped mail files? Or has any accomplished this with current versions of Pine? -- Hollernet: Phillip Moore PhoneNet: home : 601.324.0531 WorkNet : NSF, Engineering office: 601.325.4023 (voice mail) Research Center FaxNet : 601.325.7692 Systems Administration WWWnet: http://www.erc.msstate.edu/~phil/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 23:55:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03918; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:55:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07073; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:48:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07067; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:48:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvfvB-00038CC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stevenk@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Steven A Kaldeck) Subject: Re: pine startup Date: 2 Apr 1995 23:52:42 GMT Message-Id: <3lndca$6tn@bigboote.WPI.EDU> References: In article , Joseph H Greenwald wrote: > > >How do I make pine startup by opening my INBOX? >I'm on an SGI running pine 3.91 > It's very simple -- just use the -i option when you start pine. > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >Joseph H. Greenwald E-mail: jgreen@ctron.com >Cabletron Systems, Inc. Voice: (603) 337-7352 >Engineering - Durham Fax: (603) 337-7370 >P.O. Box 5005 >Rochester, NH 03866-5005 >------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- Steven Kaldeck From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 01:49:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07082; Mon, 3 Apr 95 01:49:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19967; Mon, 3 Apr 95 01:34:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19961; Mon, 3 Apr 95 01:34:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvhVM-00038CC; Mon, 3 Apr 95 01:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ftilley@indirect.com (Felix E. Tilley Jr.) Subject: Re: TEST Message-Id: Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 17:40:55 GMT References: <3lhnn4$ob5@silver.scs.unr.edu> Brian Shuford (shuford@scs.unr.edu) wrote: : This is just a test. Thank You! : -- : KJHKJHKJHKLJNI*(Y_*Y$RG?$G!{(*Y!@#$TO"U$%@})*YH : )*IY$%R#!@)*YH#!$%O)HG!#@$%RO*I)G!H#$%R*O)*H!#@$%**) : !#@$R)I*YH$#!R{)"I*Y!$%R#+++ATH : 8y34r88y43r58y345[8yy1453t0[8y24t508y1453t : [0893u4[089y13t08yuhgqlkjadkdkfdkf'q409148-400202-2-2-----oe OK. Thank you too. Felix From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 04:24:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11235; Mon, 3 Apr 95 04:24:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10844; Mon, 3 Apr 95 04:13:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10838; Mon, 3 Apr 95 04:13:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvk4g-00038DC; Mon, 3 Apr 95 04:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rahul Dhesi Subject: Re: Pine Assuming Mailed Replies are News Articles - a solution Date: 2 Apr 1995 01:40:45 GMT Message-Id: <3lkvat$sqn@hustle.rahul.net> References: <3l2itn$atr@hustle.rahul.net> In Roman Czyborra writes: >If I copy a mail message to a newsgroup they both >contain a To and Newsgroups but the mail will only have Received lines >but no Path and you will still want to follow up to all recipients. Let's clarify: If you are prone to accidentally post public responses to private email, then the rule If a message has no Path: header, post no News follow-ups to it will prevent such errors. If you are not having any such problems, and you are always sure about when it's appropriate to post a Usenet response to private email, then you and your software can safely ignore this rule. -- Rahul Dhesi "please ignore Dhesi" -- Mark Crispin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 06:34:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14881; Mon, 3 Apr 95 06:34:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12593; Mon, 3 Apr 95 06:22:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12587; Mon, 3 Apr 95 06:22:14 -0700 Received: from CAMPBELL-EMH4.ARMY.MIL by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16769; Mon, 3 Apr 95 06:22:12 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 08:30:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "CW2 James E. Melby" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: FAQ Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please send Pine FAQ. Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 11:16:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28252; Mon, 3 Apr 95 11:16:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01572; Mon, 3 Apr 95 11:04:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01566; Mon, 3 Apr 95 11:04:20 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28414; Mon, 3 Apr 95 11:04:19 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 10:13:01 -0400 Message-Id: <9504031413.AA60278@hopper.acs.ryerson.ca> X-Sender: melbirt@hopper.acs.ryerson.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: melbirt@acs.ryerson.ca (Marc Elbirt) Subject: VAX/VMS Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Innosoft Customer Service , Yehavi Bourvine Resent-Message-Id: Is there a version of Pine for VAX/VMS? \\/// (o o) ----------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo------------------------------- Marc Elbirt | Every person, all the events of your life melbirt@acs.ryerson.ca | are there because you have drawn them there. au694@torfree.net | What you choose to do with them is up to you. -- Richard Bach From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 13:54:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05391; Mon, 3 Apr 95 13:54:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05410; Mon, 3 Apr 95 13:40:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05404; Mon, 3 Apr 95 13:40:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvsqa-00038DC; Mon, 3 Apr 95 13:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dagon@chinook.halcyon.com (Mark Rafn) Subject: Re: addressbook problem Date: 3 Apr 1995 16:15:06 GMT Message-Id: <3lp6ua$kdt@news1.halcyon.com> References: <3ln67g$14f@fnord.dfw.net> In article <3ln67g$14f@fnord.dfw.net>, Briarpatch wrote: >I use pine through a provider on Unix, and have this problem: When I am >drafting a message and am prompted for the recipient's address, I strike >^T to retrive that address from my addressbook, and the retrived address >must be edited to remove the preceeding user name and surrounding '<' and >'>' signs. My addressbook might be faulty. Can someone here offer me any >suggestions for correcting this problem as I want the address I retrieve >from my address book under pine to be only the Internet address? Just to make sure I understand: For some weird reason you don't like To: Mark Rafn but would rather just have To: dagon@halcyon.com The only way I can think to accomplish this is to leave Fullname blank in your addressbook. Pine doesn't allow this when adding an address, but you can edit it to be blank. Even then, it still uses angle brackets around the address, but if you go up to the address and then immediately down again they go away. Do you have some weird mail transport that doesn't handle the standard name
or do you just not like it? TTFN Mark Rafn dagon@halcyon.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 15:24:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10328; Mon, 3 Apr 95 15:24:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25986; Mon, 3 Apr 95 15:11:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25980; Mon, 3 Apr 95 15:11:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvuIP-00038DC; Mon, 3 Apr 95 15:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: VAX/VMS Message-Id: <17375146D3S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <9504031413.AA60278@hopper.acs.ryerson.ca> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 22:14:21 GMT In article <9504031413.AA60278@hopper.acs.ryerson.ca> melbirt@acs.ryerson.ca (Marc Elbirt) writes: >Is there a version of Pine for VAX/VMS? Two, at least. I'm running one of them on a vax/vms cluster: a free port of 3.91 by Yehavi Bourvine at HUJI. Read what I wrote about it: http://d1.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/vms-pine.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 17:02:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15543; Mon, 3 Apr 95 17:02:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09960; Mon, 3 Apr 95 16:52:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09954; Mon, 3 Apr 95 16:52:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvvqW-00038KC; Mon, 3 Apr 95 16:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: knepperm@cuug.ab.ca (Kneppers Marc) Subject: Invalid mail folder Message-Id: Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 21:26:11 GMT Hi, I have Pine 3.89 running on a SVR4 UNix Box (MIPS). It's been running great for a few months now but suddenly on the weekend we've run into a snag. WHen opening the INBOX I get the error message "[INBOX] is not a folder". The format has not changed from last week to this week so I don't see what has gone wrong. If I change the date in the very first line of the INBOX to be March instead of April -- all of a sudden Pine works again (reads the INBOX). Another weird thing is that if I send mail to someone, the mail gets appended to the first mail message (that has a non-april date). So, I get 1 mail file that contains more than 1 mail message. ANy thoughts? (I am a little worried as this is occuring suprisingly close to April Fool's day). Thanks, Marc Kneppers knepperm@cuug.ab.ca (or kneppersm@acs.ucalgary.ca) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 18:46:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19567; Mon, 3 Apr 95 18:46:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01047; Mon, 3 Apr 95 18:35:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01041; Mon, 3 Apr 95 18:35:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvxUv-00038FC; Mon, 3 Apr 95 18:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin McElearney Subject: Re: Incoming Mail Folders Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 22:47:31 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3lf31t$aad@noc.near.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3lf31t$aad@noc.near.net> On 30 Mar 1995, Kevin McElearney wrote: > Why when I create a new incoming mail folder called something like > Mail/fwall.mbox does it also creates another folder called fwall.mbox. > I cannot delete this unless I touch ~/fwall.mbox and then delete > it. > > Then... when I quit and restart Pine there it is again 8^} Terry Gray pointed me in the right direction. There was a bug in my .pinerc file which was not being handled by the config screen. I removed the folders out of the .pinerc by hand. Kevin McElearney (KM108) _________________________________________________________________________ BBN Planet Corporation Phone: +1 617 873-4684 New England Region Engineering Fax: +1 617 873-5620 150 Cambridge Park Drive, 20/342 http://www.bbnplanet.com/ Cambridge, MA 02140 mailto:kmcelear@bbnplanet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 19:42:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24235; Mon, 3 Apr 95 19:42:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13118; Mon, 3 Apr 95 19:35:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13107; Mon, 3 Apr 95 19:35:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvyRV-00038FC; Mon, 3 Apr 95 19:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin McElearney Subject: Can pine handle MH folders? Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 22:51:35 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The subject says it all. I looked through the code and could not find references to this. We have a number of mailing lists which are exploded into MH folders (one file per message). I wrote a short script to cat them all together but this is kludgy. Kevin McElearney (KM108) _________________________________________________________________________ BBN Planet Corporation Phone: +1 617 873-4684 New England Region Engineering Fax: +1 617 873-5620 150 Cambridge Park Drive, 20/342 http://www.bbnplanet.com/ Cambridge, MA 02140 mailto:kmcelear@bbnplanet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 20:29:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25940; Mon, 3 Apr 95 20:29:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03071; Mon, 3 Apr 95 20:26:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03065; Mon, 3 Apr 95 20:26:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvzDW-00038CC; Mon, 3 Apr 95 20:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ronald D. Kurr" Subject: XV ERROR Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:17:12 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm using the mailcap file that came with the pine distribution. When trying to view a .BMP as an attachment through xv, I get the following error: " [VIEWER Result: hd: Not found] " Any ideas? When I save the file to disk and view it through xv, I can see the image just fine. Thanks, Ron Ronald D. Kurr Voice: (603) 337-7363 Cabletron Systems, Inc. Fax : (603) 337-7370 PO Box 5005 kurr@ctron.com Rochester, NH 03868 "Opinions expressed are my wife's." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 22:40:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29420; Mon, 3 Apr 95 22:40:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15856; Mon, 3 Apr 95 22:36:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15847; Mon, 3 Apr 95 22:36:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rw1El-00038CC; Mon, 3 Apr 95 22:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: u9207924@muss.cis.McMaster.CA (K.H. Sonnenberg) Subject: Filter incoming mail Date: 3 Apr 1995 13:36:36 -0400 Message-Id: <3lpbn4$mrs@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA> Does anybody know how I would go about filtering my incoming mail into multiple folder? It mentions a bit in .PINERC but I can't figure our how to get it working. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Kevin S. -- ______________Kevin Sonnenberg u9207924@muss.cis.mcmaster.ca_______________ "Uh...had a slight weapons malfunction. But, uh, everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here...now...thank you. How are you?" *wince* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 23:16:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00785; Mon, 3 Apr 95 23:16:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05554; Mon, 3 Apr 95 23:11:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05548; Mon, 3 Apr 95 23:11:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rw1n4-00038CC; Mon, 3 Apr 95 23:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jwhite@infi.net (John L. White) Subject: Looking for a SMTP daemon to use with PC PINE Date: 3 Apr 1995 23:22:05 GMT Message-Id: <3lpvut$1kb@lucy.infi.net> I am currently running Windows NT 3.5 on a Pentium 90 machine. This machine is connected full time to the internet via a PPP connection. PC Pine seems to run just fine on the NT machine, but I have been unable to find a working SMTP daemon which will handle the job of "sniffing" out the incoming mail and converting it to a format that Pine likes. I have found a SMTP Daemon and confirmed that all of the routing is being preformed correctly. This Deamon simply stores the incoming message "lock, stock and barrel" in a text file. I need to find one that will use all of structures (files, formats, etc) which Pine expects. I have been "flailing" with this problem for several weeks and would greatly appreciate any help in solving it. I really like the Pine system and would like to continue to use it on my PC. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 23:48:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01702; Mon, 3 Apr 95 23:48:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16904; Mon, 3 Apr 95 23:41:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16898; Mon, 3 Apr 95 23:41:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rw2Fn-00038CC; Mon, 3 Apr 95 23:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccpsm@mucc.mahidol.ac.th (Prem Sumetpong - CC) Subject: Message-ID Date: 4 Apr 1995 05:00:54 GMT Message-Id: <3lqjq6$g56@mars.mahidol.ac.th> I would like to know is it the MUA (Pine) or sendmail that creates the message-id. I am getting (xxxxx@host) rather than (xxxxx@host.domain) and want to track how to solve this problem. I get different results if my /etc/hosts has host IP host host.domain and host IP host.domain host the former gives a Message-ID the latter gives a Message-ID Thanx Prem =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Prem Sumetpong Tel (Off) : (662) 247-0333 Mahidol University Computing Center (Fax) : (662) 246-7308 Faculty of Science, Mahidol University email : ccpsm@mahidol.ac.th Rama 6 Rd, Bangkok 10400 , Thailand. postmaster@mahidol.ac.th From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 4 00:37:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02763; Tue, 4 Apr 95 00:37:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06357; Tue, 4 Apr 95 00:31:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06350; Tue, 4 Apr 95 00:31:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rw34d-00038CC; Tue, 4 Apr 95 00:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mcneely@dfw.net (Briarpatch) Subject: addressbook problem Date: 2 Apr 1995 21:50:39 GMT Message-Id: <3ln67g$14f@fnord.dfw.net> I use pine through a provider on Unix, and have this problem: When I am drafting a message and am prompted for the recipient's address, I strike ^T to retrive that address from my addressbook, and the retrived address must be edited to remove the preceeding user name and surrounding '<' and '>' signs. My addressbook might be faulty. Can someone here offer me any suggestions for correcting this problem as I want the address I retrieve from my address book under pine to be only the Internet address? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 4 06:44:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13126; Tue, 4 Apr 95 06:44:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22669; Tue, 4 Apr 95 06:30:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rs8.loc.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22663; Tue, 4 Apr 95 06:30:50 -0700 Received: by rs8.loc.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA56370; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 09:30:50 -0400 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 09:30:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "R. Russell Neuswanger" To: pine-info Subject: Two questions (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Two questions. Is there a way to print parts of the addressbook? I want to break up a group, limiting one part to catalogers, and putting all the others (with some additional people) into another. I can print messages by sending them to my LaMail and printing from there, but I don't know what to do with address lists. Also, not completely unrelated: last time I tried to send to two groups, which overlapped (something I do routinely in poor old CA-email), I got such a hash of error messages that I had to cancel and start over. I may take the trouble to devise disjoint groups in this instance, but I sure hope I don't have to all the time. PS: I had to forward this to my pine account from LaMail, which failed (via NR/2) to post it. I've tried (obviously not correctly) to correct the formatting ... R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP) rneu@rneu.loc.gov Library of Congress or (better) rrne@loc.gov Washington, DC 20540-4120 202.707.8747 (shared line) No teratobibliotic entity avows *my* emanations. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 4 11:06:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25415; Tue, 4 Apr 95 11:06:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14150; Tue, 4 Apr 95 09:41:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nic.cerf.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14144; Tue, 4 Apr 95 09:41:15 -0700 Received: from mrcury.liocs.com (liocs.com [134.24.6.153]) by nic.cerf.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA15430 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 09:40:59 -0700 Received: by mrcury.liocs.com (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA02258; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 11:39:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 11:39:49 -0900 (PDT) From: Dave Siembieda To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Attachments fail using PC-pine X-Sender: dave@mrcury.liocs.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Whenever I attempt to send attachments greater than 32k they fail. No error message is returned. My configuration is PC's running PC-PINE to an IMAP server on an Ultrix machine. The Ultrix machine has no problem sending large files so the error appears to be between the PC and IMAP. How can I turn on debug to diagnosis the problem? Has anyone else seen this problem? =============================================================================== Dave Siembieda | The opinions expressed are my own! Manager of Software Engineering | LIOCS Corp | 246 E. Janata Blvd | Lombard, IL 60148 | dave@liocs.com | =============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 4 13:15:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02434; Tue, 4 Apr 95 13:15:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18216; Tue, 4 Apr 95 12:52:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vax.cs.hscsyr.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18210; Tue, 4 Apr 95 12:52:47 -0700 Received: from VAX.CS.HSCSYR.EDU by VAX.CS.HSCSYR.EDU (PMDF V4.2-12 #3529) id <01HOY2SA7IR48WXPWL@VAX.CS.HSCSYR.EDU>; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 15:50:42 EST Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 15:50:42 -0500 (EST) From: BINGHAMT@VAX.CS.HSCSYR.EDU Subject: Troubles Compiling VMS Pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <01HOY2SA9XKI8WXPWL@VAX.CS.HSCSYR.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"pine-info@cac.washington.edu" X-Vms-Cc: BINGHAMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hello all. I recently got VMS Pine 3.91B4 from HUJI and tried to build it on my VAX 4000-400 running VMS 5.5-2 using DECC 4.0. I encountered the errors below. Has anyone out there in the VMS part of this list encountered these problems and found a fix? Thanks for any info. V1$@vmsbuild multinet [...snip...] typedef unsigned long int time_t; ................................^ %CC-E-NOLINKAGE, In this declaration, time_t has no linkage and has a prior declaration in this scope at 33:MULTINET_COMMON_ROOT:[MULTINET.INCLUDE.SYS]TYPES.H;3: . At line number 57 in SYS$COMMON:[DECC$LIB.INCLUDE]TIME.H;2. struct tm { ^ %CC-E-REDEFSTRUCT, In this declaration, the structure "tm" is being redeclared. At line number 57 in MULTINET_COMMON_ROOT:[MULTINET.INCLUDE.SYS] TIME.H;3. typedef long int clock_t; ..................^ %CC-E-NOLINKAGE, In this declaration, clock_t has no linkage and has a prior declaration in this scope at 53:SYS$COMMON:[DECC$LIB.INCLUDE]TIME.H;2: . At line number 73 in MULTINET_COMMON_ROOT:[MULTINET.INCLUDE.SYS] TIME.H;3. [...snip...] } %VCG-I-NOBJECT, No object file produced. At line number 415 in USER1:[BINGHAMT.PINE.PINE3_91.C- CLIENT]TCP _VMS.C;3. %VCG-I-SUMMARY, Completed with 3 error(s), 9 warning(s), and 18 informational messages. At line number 415 in USER1:[BINGHAMT.PINE.PINE3_91.C- CLIENT]TCP _VMS.C;3. V1$ Tim Tim Bingham SUNY Health Science Center binghamt@vax.cs.hscsyr.edu Computer Services Dept. phone (315) 464-5426 750 E. Adams St. ____ __o fax (315) 464-4081 Syracuse, NY 13210 ____ \ <; __________________________________________________________________(_)/_(_)_____ http://kellogg.cs.hscsyr.edu/computer_services/staff/bingham_info.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 4 14:44:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10775; Tue, 4 Apr 95 14:44:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03956; Tue, 4 Apr 95 14:25:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha.Xerox.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03950; Tue, 4 Apr 95 14:25:50 -0700 Received: from owl.parc.xerox.com ([13.1.100.75]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14751(3)>; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 14:13:56 PDT Received: by owl.parc.xerox.com id <15365>; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 14:13:48 -0700 From: Mark Shirley To: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How to get Pine to display long lines wrapped? Cc: shirley@parc.xerox.com, saraswat@parc.xerox.com, bobrow@parc.xerox.com, walters@pc2.pc.maricopa.edu Message-Id: <95Apr4.141348pdt.15365@owl.parc.xerox.com> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 14:13:43 PDT (Sorry if this has been asked a million times before ... I couldn't find the answer in the FAQ.) Is there a way to get Pine to display long lines wrapped over several lines the way Emacs can? In Gnu Emacs, for instance, the variable truncate-lines set to t causes the display algorithm to truncate long lines the way pine/pico does. Setting it to nil causes the display algorithm to wrap long lines. This has nothing to do with the actual contents of the buffer (e.g., I think I understand about the -w flag, but it's not the answer here.) The reason we'd like this is that we're trying to use pine or pico as a code editor in a MOO client. Lines that extend off of the screen make reading the code difficult, and automatically inserting CR's when the user types close to the edge of the screen is not very convenient either. Any help with pine/pico or pointers to similar editors with this flexibility in their display algorithms would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Mark Shirley Xerox PARC From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 00:52:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06411; Wed, 5 Apr 95 00:52:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29682; Wed, 5 Apr 95 00:43:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29676; Wed, 5 Apr 95 00:43:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwPgt-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 00:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tgpt_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Tom Guptill) Subject: Re: Question: How to set a Forwarding Address - Pine for VMS Message-Id: <1995Apr2.232332.15688@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> References: <0098E30C.CFC075DF@pomona.edu> <17373EAFCS86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> Date: Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:23:32 GMT In <17373EAFCS86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) writes: >You will need to know the correct format for mail addresses on your >VMS MAIL system. On mine it would be SMTP%"someuser@some.domain.edu" >for an Internet recipient. I'm not sure how everyone else's systems are configured, but on our VAXcluster, you need to do some quoting to set forwarding correctly. For example, the command I would use to forward my mail to my lenin account is: set forward "in%""tom@lenin.cc.rochester.edu""" This is under VMS 5.5 running PMDF with the free version of Pine. (The PMDF version is not installed on my system.) Your mileage may vary. Tom -- |Tom Guptill I don't speak for UCC from this account. | |tgpt_ltd@DB1.CC.ROCHESTER.EDU Nobody speaks for WRUR. | |Cutting educational funding costs EVERYONE in the long run. Save SUNY!| |Support non-commercial broadcasting and a non-commercial Internet | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 03:20:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10977; Wed, 5 Apr 95 03:20:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27681; Wed, 5 Apr 95 03:13:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27673; Wed, 5 Apr 95 03:13:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwS14-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 03:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sean@cortex.ama.ttuhsc.edu (Sean Dougherty) Subject: PCPINE & W32SOLE V1.25 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 04:19:57 GMT We have installed w32sOLE (for ncsa's mosaic), now pine is twitchy. On gateway 2000, it will either lock up the whole system or get you back to a dos prompt. On every other civilized computer, we get the following error: [CLOSED] IMAP connection broken ANYBODY ELSE EVER SEE THIS? MORE IMPORTANTLY, HAS ANYBODY ELSE COME UP WITH A FIX? thanks sean From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 03:45:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11573; Wed, 5 Apr 95 03:45:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01864; Wed, 5 Apr 95 03:40:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01858; Wed, 5 Apr 95 03:40:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwSSc-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 03:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sheana Lynn Kuiper Subject: Address Book prob.--too many users Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 21:04:36 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have an address group set up which includes about 140 names. When i send a message to the whole distribution list, i ALWAYS get a message back from the Administrator and the text is simply "too many users". And then it is followed by the message I sent. I have included myself in this distribution list, and I always get my message FROM me. Does anyone know if there is a problem here? Are some people NOT getting my messages? Assistance would be appreciated. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 04:31:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13392; Wed, 5 Apr 95 04:31:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28763; Wed, 5 Apr 95 04:21:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Farstar.secapl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28757; Wed, 5 Apr 95 04:21:20 -0700 Received: from Fozzie.secapl.com (fozzie.secapl.com [192.131.46.3]) by Farstar.secapl.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id FAA206005; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 05:16:44 -0600 Received: by Fozzie.secapl.com id AA40560 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 5 Apr 1995 07:22:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 07:22:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Anthony Iannotti To: Stan Mulder Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: news group message arrival method? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It may be that the dates shown are the dates of composition, not arrival. News can easily get out of order that way, since the messages travel through many different routes, some batched, like uucp. On Wed, 29 Mar 1995, Stan Mulder wrote: > > I've got my configuration set to show news group messages in order of > arrival. How is it that when I view a news group I see all ranges of dates > interspersed? For example, I posted a message on lang.comp.c++, when out > of pine and back in to verify that it was posted and could not find my > message at the bottom of the list. I did a search and found it about 60 > messages up. How am I to understand this? > > Thanks. > > -Stan- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Stan Mulder -- mulder@eng.usf.edu | > University of South Florida, Lakeland | Acceptance is usually the answer. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 04:45:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13862; Wed, 5 Apr 95 04:45:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29047; Wed, 5 Apr 95 04:39:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Farstar.secapl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29041; Wed, 5 Apr 95 04:39:44 -0700 Received: from Fozzie.secapl.com (fozzie.secapl.com [192.131.46.3]) by Farstar.secapl.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id FAA205954; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 05:35:09 -0600 Received: by Fozzie.secapl.com id AA44450 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 5 Apr 1995 07:40:39 -0400 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 07:40:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Anthony Iannotti To: Billy Bob Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine switched versions on me. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it possible that your system manglers were playing with versions for some reason? Or do you have the binary in your home directory? That's exactly the sort of behavior that would ensue if they put an old version back in for a minute to see if it also had a newly discovered bug/feature/interaction with sendmail. On Fri, 31 Mar 1995, Billy Bob wrote: > 3.91, but this evening when I started pine, it said welcome to a new > verstion of Pine, 3.89 > > At first I though someone played a joke adn broke into my accout, so I > exited but stared it up again aobut 1 min later. I got teh same message > but it said Pine 3.91. Can anyone come up with a resonable explanation > for this? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 04:49:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14072; Wed, 5 Apr 95 04:49:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29006; Wed, 5 Apr 95 04:38:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29000; Wed, 5 Apr 95 04:38:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwTPN-00038MC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 04:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dean@tbone.biol.scarolina.edu (Dean Pentcheff) Subject: Re: Filter incoming mail Date: 4 Apr 1995 18:20:43 -0400 Message-Id: <3lsgnr$7ro@tbone.biol.scarolina.edu> References: <3lpbn4$mrs@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA> u9207924@muss.cis.McMaster.CA (K.H. Sonnenberg) writes: >Does anybody know how I would go about filtering my incoming mail into >multiple folder? It mentions a bit in .PINERC but I can't figure our how >to get it working. Any help would be appreciated. >Thanks, >Kevin S. There is no mail filtering built into Pine, but it happily handles the results of other mail filter programs. A popular one is "procmail", which can be obtained (according to its documentation) at: ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de as pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz I've been using it quite happily for a few months now. When it "broke" for a few days (actually, our user disk filled, so all it could do was stuff all incoming mail into my mail mail file) I realized just how quickly I'd come to depend on it! -Dean -- N. Dean Pentcheff Biological Sciences, Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29208 (803-777-3936) Internet addresses: pentcheff@acm.org or dean@tbone.biol.scarolina.edu WWW link: home page From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 05:13:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14931; Wed, 5 Apr 95 05:13:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03013; Wed, 5 Apr 95 05:04:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03007; Wed, 5 Apr 95 05:04:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwTkq-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 05:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chpat@cais.com (Chris Patkowski) Subject: Re: Linux/Pine spell checking problem Date: 3 Apr 1995 21:11:16 GMT Message-Id: <3lpo9k$cr9@news.cais.com> References: <3llg02$ubt@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 In article <3llg02$ubt@portal.gmu.edu>, szoltek@osf1.gmu.edu says... > > I am running Pine under Linux (1.2.2 POSIX). When I try to spell check a >message, I get the ispell help screen. This is the exact message that >appears if I type spell or ispell at the system prompt. This help screen >appears on my screen but the actual message can be accessed by typing ^L. I am running also Pine under Linux and have exactly the same problem. "Pine Technical Notes" in chapter "Spell Checker" on page 45 says that "Pine also respect the environment variable SPELL. If it set, Pine will use that as a spelling checker". I have tried to set an environment variable in my .bashrc file but it did not work. Perhaps I did not set it right. Please let me know if you solved this problem. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Christopher H. Patkowski chpat@cais.com cpatkows@cap.gwu.edu +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 07:35:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19105; Wed, 5 Apr 95 07:35:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01541; Wed, 5 Apr 95 07:25:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from herbie.unl.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01535; Wed, 5 Apr 95 07:25:05 -0700 Received: by herbie.unl.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28370; Wed, 5 Apr 95 09:23:47 CDT Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 09:23:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Billy Bob Subject: Re: Pine switched versions on me. To: Anthony Iannotti Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 5 Apr 1995, Anthony Iannotti wrote: I have the binary in my home directory. The system managers don't even have pine compiled for all the users. So I still am unsure of where the switch came from. Since the first time I posted it switch back to version 3.89, but now it has stayed at that. So I'm not really sure as to which version I am using. John (billy) > Is it possible that your system manglers were playing with versions for > some reason? Or do you have the binary in your home directory? That's > On Fri, 31 Mar 1995, Billy Bob wrote: > > > 3.91, but this evening when I started pine, it said welcome to a new > > verstion of Pine, 3.89 RealityIsAnIllusionOfTheMind.ButReally,HowCanThatBeRealWhenTheRealityOfItCame FromSomeone'sMind.GettingReallyDeep,TheRealnessOfRealityIsReallyJustAReality ThatManyHaveNotFaced.AndInManyCasesTheyLooseTouchWithReality.SoReally,WhereDoes RealityBegin. (jgraham@herbie.unl.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 09:31:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25036; Wed, 5 Apr 95 09:31:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04580; Wed, 5 Apr 95 09:24:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04573; Wed, 5 Apr 95 09:24:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwXq2-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 09:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sab1@st-and.ac.uk (Stuart Andrew Blair) Subject: vacation messages Date: 5 Apr 1995 11:53:53 GMT Message-Id: <3lu0ch$mam@calvin.st-and.ac.uk> Is there any way that Pine can be configured to send out vacation messages in response to incoming mail when you are away? Stuart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 11:18:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00980; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:18:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09490; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:09:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09484; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:09:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwZVb-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu (Supak Lailert) Subject: Re: address block possible? Date: 3 Apr 1995 21:45:26 GMT Message-Id: <3lpq9m$eei@gondor.sdsu.edu> References: <3lo2qc$o16@nkosi.well.com> Wonder Dog (jlbrown@well.sf.ca.us) wrote: : Is it possible to configure Pine where it automatically deletes or : ignores email from a particular person? You should use procmail. It does a very nice job. Supak -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Supak Lailert -- MBA (IS) Program, San Diego State University >> >> lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu lailert@mail.sdsu.edu >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 11:26:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01295; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:26:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07359; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:20:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07353; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:20:10 -0700 Received: from trex (trex.kwantlen.bc.ca) by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA12447; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 11:19:53 -0700 Received: by trex (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA07453; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 11:19:52 +0800 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 11:19:52 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dumaresq X-Sender: david@trex To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: How to print to a postscript printer Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 651 Can someone explain how to setup printing from a Solaris 2.3 environment to a postscript printer. We use the command "LW -p |" and the job gets sent to the printer but never comes out. Thanks for your help. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 11:42:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02058; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:42:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10033; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:33:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from thurgood.uscourts.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10027; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:33:22 -0700 Received: from pc4std.ao.uscourts.gov by thurgood.uscourts.gov with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0rwZtG-0002FqC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 14:33 EDT Received: from dgstd.ao.uscourts.gov by pc4std.ao.uscourts.gov with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #8) id m0rwYtv-0000FFC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 13:29 EDT Received: by dgstd.ao.uscourts.gov (Smail3.1.28.1 #11) id m0rwZt7-0008OXC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 14:33 EDT Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 14:33:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "J. Lynn Hilton" To: Stuart Andrew Blair Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: vacation messages In-Reply-To: <3lu0ch$mam@calvin.st-and.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Not so far as I know, but there is a Unix command "vacation" which does. It will forward messages and send back a canned reply; consult your local manpages for implementation. Lynn jlh@ao.uscourts.gov or lhilton@concept.com +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | J. Lynn Hilton | Home where the AViiONs roam | | Concept Automation Services, Inc. | | | AOUSC, One Columbus Circle, N.E. | Voice: 202-273-2413 | | Washington, DC 20544 | FAX: 202-273-2356 | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ On 5 Apr 1995, Stuart Andrew Blair wrote: > > Is there any way that Pine can be configured to send > out vacation messages in response to incoming mail > when you are away? > > Stuart > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 12:23:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03914; Wed, 5 Apr 95 12:23:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08718; Wed, 5 Apr 95 12:14:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08711; Wed, 5 Apr 95 12:14:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwaVp-00038MC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 12:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rneu@rneu.loc.gov Subject: Re: Pine w/password Date: 3 Apr 1995 20:25:53 GMT Message-Id: <3lplkh$gfn@rs7.loc.gov> References: In , "Brian K. Curley (Master of Time & Space)" writes: >Anyone know how I would check mail via pine on a server that required a >password at logon? > >Brian Curley >bkc@axle.adp.wisc.edu We do that here. Once you're signed onto the machine, simply type pine, and hit enter. Presto, you're in. R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life rneu@rneu.loc.gov or (better) rrne@loc.gov I speak for me. Only. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 12:24:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03964; Wed, 5 Apr 95 12:24:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11082; Wed, 5 Apr 95 12:19:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11076; Wed, 5 Apr 95 12:19:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwaYu-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 12:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jlbrown@well.sf.ca.us (Wonder Dog) Subject: address block possible? Date: 3 Apr 1995 05:58:36 GMT Message-Id: <3lo2qc$o16@nkosi.well.com> Is it possible to configure Pine where it automatically deletes or ignores email from a particular person? -- ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ³ J.L. Brown ³ E-Mail: jlbrown@well.sf.ca.us ³ ³ M.B., SC ³ WWW: http://www.well.com/www/jlbrown ³ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 12:52:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05195; Wed, 5 Apr 95 12:52:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09575; Wed, 5 Apr 95 12:47:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [137.98.200.54] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09567; Wed, 5 Apr 95 12:47:06 -0700 Received: (from stares@localhost) by lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.dhl.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA12468; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 20:46:33 +0100 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 20:46:32 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM X-Sender: stares@lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.dhl.com To: Stuart Andrew Blair Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: vacation messages In-Reply-To: <3lu0ch$mam@calvin.st-and.ac.uk> Message-Id: X-Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are my own and not my employers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 5 Apr 1995, Stuart Andrew Blair wrote: Pin cannot do this but you could either use the vacation program supplied with many different versions of Unix or you can use procmail to do it for you. Procmail also filters incoming email so that you can only answer certain types of email - you do not want to send an automatic reply back to this list for instance ! Stuart > > Is there any way that Pine can be configured to send > out vacation messages in response to incoming mail > when you are away? > > Stuart > ---- Stuart Tares Email : Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM Senior Network Analyst Voice : +44 181 742 4060 DHL Systems Ltd, CSG Europe & Africa Region From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 13:30:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07089; Wed, 5 Apr 95 13:30:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10614; Wed, 5 Apr 95 13:20:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10608; Wed, 5 Apr 95 13:20:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwbXk-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 13:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rahul Dhesi Subject: Re: Invalid mail folder Date: 5 Apr 1995 01:13:17 GMT Message-Id: <3lsqrd$25c@hustle.rahul.net> References: In Mark Crispin writes: >In >the "From " header line, the date is a fixed format ctime() format >string, and thus the day field is fixed-width (hence requiring a leading >space for single-digit days).... >This is usually caused by a non-standard mail delivery program at the >local site, and generally when this gets called to their attention the >sysadmins at the site fix it pronto. The situation is a little unfortunate here. Although the date in the From_ line is indeed supposed to be a fixed-format ctime() string, almost all mail agents -- including SunOS /usr/ucb/mail, elm, and MH's inc program -- will accept slight variations, and will tolerate the missing leading blank in a single-digit day-of-month field. Thus, if a slightly 'nonstandard' local mail delivery program is operating, pine may end up being the only user agent on the system that cannot parse the mailbox. So, it now becomes a matter of debate as to which was really broken: pine or the delivery agent. From a strict interpretation of de facto standards, it was the delivery agent that was broken. But this may not be a good argument to use when talking to the person who asks, "how come everything else works but pine doesn't?" -- Rahul Dhesi "please ignore Dhesi" -- Mark Crispin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 13:52:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08000; Wed, 5 Apr 95 13:52:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13016; Wed, 5 Apr 95 13:40:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13010; Wed, 5 Apr 95 13:40:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwbpN-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 13:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: loflin@sirius.cc.utexas.edu (Don Loflin) Subject: Re: Ideas for PINE GUI and libraries (q) Date: 5 Apr 1995 15:15:25 -0500 Message-Id: <3lutot$rtr@sirius.cc.utexas.edu> References: > >We presently (about a hundred Macs) use MS Mail clients on the Macs with a >MS Mail server running on a Mac. Microsoft dropped the ball and we haven't >found anyone willing to pick it up (for less than a large sum of money). >We will move to Pine via telnet and just suffer without the local file >access for a while. Mailstrom is a good Pine-like IMAP mail client for the Mac. Its display is quite a bit like Pine's (I suspect C-Client code is in use..) and it supports opening multiple mail folders as well as searching & marking messages based on text in the messages. It's available on ftp://lindy.stanford.edu/pub/treister/mailstrom/ Don Loflin loflin@mail.utexas.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 17:27:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02700; Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:27:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02297; Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:15:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02291; Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:15:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwfAm-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bltst2+@pitt.edu (Brian L Tobin) Subject: POP reader on UNIX Date: 5 Apr 1995 17:06:53 GMT Message-Id: <3luind$kab@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> I have posted this question before, and no one answered. I dunno if that's just a stupid question, or there is no product. What I am looking for is this: - A E-Mail reader that has the ability to log onto our school's POP server, and retreive my mail. You see, I usually use Eudura for Macintosh over PPP to get my mail. But, when I'm in the labs, it's a pain in the butt to get my mail (I have to D/L Eudura, configure it...etc...) In any case, if there is such a program available available for UNIX, could someone please E-Mail with the name? Thanks alot. bltst2+@pitt.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 17:31:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02816; Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:31:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17991; Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:25:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17985; Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:25:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwfJs-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeff Nicolich Subject: Multiple "@"'s in address won't mail correctly Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 20:22:05 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Can someone help me a problem I have sending mail to an MCI address via PINE? The address is: @gatekeeper.mcimail.com:sn=name%g=first%o=cs_first_boston%dda =id=csfbg+pnameb%csfbg@mcimail.com (one line) If I type the address in the appropriate field PINE interprets each "@" as a seperate address: To: Name <@mcimail.com, @CSFBG, @OU1=IS, @O=CS_First_Boston, @G=firstname:S=Name@S=Name> What can I do to correct this? Thanks. Jeff nicolich@kristall.uni-frankfurt.d400.de From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 17:37:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03146; Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:37:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02567; Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:30:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02557; Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:30:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwfQQ-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: N.M.Queen@birmingham.ac.uk (Nat Queen) Subject: HELP: User-id in Pine Date: 04 Apr 95 09:56:20 BST Message-Id: <955604095620@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk> ============================================================================== I want to change my return e-mail address in the "From:" line that is placed in outgoing messages by Pine 3.89 on a unix machine. The problem is that I want to use my "standard" address known to my university's central mail server (as it appears in the header of this post), and not my address on that particular computer. When people reply to this "standard" address, which is expected to remain unchanged, I can have the mail forwarded to any computer(s) of my choice, depending on circumstances. Pine automatically inserts its own domain name and my user-id on that computer into my e-mail address. I can successfully change the domain of the address by setting the variable "user-domain" in my personal configuration file. However, it appears to be impossible to change the variable "user-id". According to the Pine Technical Notes (version 3.91), this can only be done in PC-Pine. How can I replace my default e-mail address in the "From:" line to my preferred address? Any help will be greatly appreciated. **************************************************************************** * Dr. N.M. Queen * Phone: +44 121 414 6590 * * School of Mathematics & Statistics * Fax: +44 121 414 3389 * * University of Birmingham * E-mail: n.m.queen@birmingham.ac.uk * * Birmingham B15 2TT, England * PGP public key available on request * **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 20:36:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09130; Wed, 5 Apr 95 20:36:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20536; Wed, 5 Apr 95 20:31:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20530; Wed, 5 Apr 95 20:31:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwiHn-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 20:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bill White Subject: Addressbook Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 12:43:31 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi. I have a question. In pine version 3.91, when in the addressbook, there is a function called edit. If you invoke this function, one of the fields displayed for editing is the comment field or 'c'. When I put in a comment, it is never displayed, and if I go back and look, it isn't in the comment field either. Is this a bug, have I got something set wrong in the configuration, or what? Can someone explain this? Thanks in advance. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 22:26:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11563; Wed, 5 Apr 95 22:26:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07173; Wed, 5 Apr 95 22:21:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07167; Wed, 5 Apr 95 22:21:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwjxF-00038MC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 22:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Can I pass a value "through" or "around" Pine? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 16:38:31 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I want to call Pine from a script. Pine will call another script as an alternate editor. Can I pass the value of a variable from the first script to the alternate editor without using an environment variable? An environment variable is out of the question. :) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 Comment: Processed by mkpgp1.0, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAgUBL4F1zOBu0383Om6dAQFkLwP/aodNKzJvOTn69zPXc9VVTSvxGV6+mNVo y40embZrSv0ULIhjXkYyBdjd1DvpEaRe8Pzy+QZuU9qpZT5/gYmb5qv2ckIDzFN3 TSxotAW+58s6T9R/hnTAojyynpIJJqQqZE7An+Km47ICIrOIoeBQ0nxNWxSHYqZa PXObgz7sRHQ= =tlq3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka "The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 23:11:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12750; Wed, 5 Apr 95 23:11:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22271; Wed, 5 Apr 95 23:06:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22265; Wed, 5 Apr 95 23:06:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwkhz-00038OC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 23:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bob@cis.ysu.edu (Bob Hogue) Subject: Margins in pico Date: 4 Apr 1995 22:12:03 GMT Message-Id: <3lsg7j$54f@news.ysu.edu> I'm aware that control-J will rejustify a paragraph for me while using the pico editor, but is there a way to change what it uses for the line length when rejustifying? I'd like to make the lines a bit shorter than what pico defaults to. Tnx for any help. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Hogue Computer & Information Sciences Internet: bob@cis.ysu.edu Youngstown State University Phone: 216/742-1775 Youngstown, OH 44555 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 02:15:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17712; Thu, 6 Apr 95 02:15:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10340; Thu, 6 Apr 95 02:07:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10334; Thu, 6 Apr 95 02:07:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwnW6-00038MC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 02:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: omar@wco.com (Omar Eljumaily) Subject: Re: *Domains & PINE! Date: 4 Apr 1995 21:17:30 GMT Message-Id: <3lsd1a$6uo@news.wco.com> References: <3l7c69$prs@linda.teleport.com> bw (bw@teleport.com) wrote: : Hello! : I'm trying to configure PINE to reflect my domain name in the "From" and : Reply-to" header areas. When I send out email, it reflects my providers : domain, rather than my own. I had the same problem started using a newer version of pine in which you were able to set the domain name in the config menu. Omar From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 04:45:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22131; Thu, 6 Apr 95 04:45:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26212; Thu, 6 Apr 95 04:37:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26206; Thu, 6 Apr 95 04:37:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwpqE-00038OC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 04:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: martyn@indirect.com (Harris Internet Service Company) Subject: How to Cancel USENET posts Message-Id: Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 21:40:46 GMT What is the proper procedure for cancelling a newsgroup post? marty From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 05:30:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23757; Thu, 6 Apr 95 05:30:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13099; Thu, 6 Apr 95 05:22:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13093; Thu, 6 Apr 95 05:22:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwqW8-00038LC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 05:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rahul Dhesi Subject: Re: Message-ID Date: 6 Apr 1995 00:43:51 GMT Message-Id: <3lvdg7$1hm@hustle.rahul.net> References: <3lqjq6$g56@mars.mahidol.ac.th> In Mike Lipscomb writes: >> the former gives a Message-ID >I had the same >problem until I read the PINE technical docs! always have the >fully-qualified domain name first and then any aliases for the /etc/hosts >entry. After some experimentation I found that although pine will use any specified 'user-domain' when forming the reply address, it will still use the local host name for the message-id, and apparently does not check to make sure that the part after the '@' is a fully-qualified domain name. It *could* append the 'user-domain' after the host name if the host name does not contain a dot, but does not do so. The basic problem is that the MTA is not being given an opportunity to do the things it knows most about, such as setting the correct reply address and message-id. The MUA is trying to do the MTA's job. A similar design flaw exists in the MH mail system, though it's not as acute, becaue MH tries to form the reply address but not the message-id. What saves the user is that in almost all cases, syntactically-invalid message-ids will be accepted by receiving software. I don't believe I have ever observed email to be bounced or dropped because of an invalid message-id. The only likely exception is that if a mail-to-News gateway preserves the message-id, the gatewayed posting will likely be dropped by inn sites, unless the gateway takes steps to correct the syntax in the message-id or generate a new one. Fortunately most such gateways just replace the old message-id with a new valid one. This issue is something to think about, but not worth losing sleep over. -- Rahul Dhesi "please ignore Dhesi" -- Mark Crispin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 05:51:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24226; Thu, 6 Apr 95 05:51:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13299; Thu, 6 Apr 95 05:37:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13293; Thu, 6 Apr 95 05:37:09 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 6 Apr 1995 13:34:04 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id NAA20631; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 13:37:00 +0100 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 13:36:59 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Harris Internet Service Company Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to Cancel USENET posts In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes... I've often wondered how best to do this from Pine? Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On Tue, 4 Apr 1995, Harris Internet Service Company wrote: > What is the proper procedure for cancelling a newsgroup post? > > marty > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 08:28:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29180; Thu, 6 Apr 95 08:28:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28903; Thu, 6 Apr 95 08:10:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28897; Thu, 6 Apr 95 08:10:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwt0j-00038LC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 07:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: robin.goodall@cai.cam.ac.uk (Robin Goodall) Subject: PC-Pine with IBM 4019E Date: 6 Apr 1995 14:52:18 GMT Message-Id: <3m0v72$5sh@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> I'm trying to get PC-Pine (LWP version) to print messages to an IBM 4019E printer in postscript mode. When you tell pine to print the lights flash on the printer indicating that it's getting the data but then it just resets itself back to normal and doesn't print anything. I was wondering if anyone had any ideas. Robin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 09:40:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07908; Thu, 6 Apr 95 09:40:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22645; Thu, 6 Apr 95 09:24:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from orca-e.fhcrc.org by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22639; Thu, 6 Apr 95 09:24:37 -0700 Received: by orca.fhcrc.org (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA102371; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 09:23:24 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 09:23:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Brent Blumenstein To: Robin Goodall Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC-Pine with IBM 4019E In-Reply-To: <3m0v72$5sh@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a similar problem under OS/2. My take is that the OS/2 telnet program is sending the "print to attached ansi" stuff to the print queue without any consideration of formatting for postscript, and the print manager isn't smart enough (or hasn't been told enough information) to know to ask whether the stuff being queued is postscipt. In other situations under OS/2 the print manager is very smart - like when I drag an icon to a postscript printer is always asks (and does so for other printers as well). I was thinking this was an OS/2 to pine interaction problem, but if you are not using OS/2 then other systemns have the same kind of problem. -- Brent A. Blumenstein | tel.: 206 667 4623 Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center | fax: 206 667 4408 1124 Columbia Street MP-557 | e-mail: brentb@orca.fhcrc.org Seattle, WA 98104 USA | On 6 Apr 1995, Robin Goodall wrote: > I'm trying to get PC-Pine (LWP version) to print messages to an > IBM 4019E printer in postscript mode. When you tell pine to print > the lights flash on the printer indicating that it's getting the > data but then it just resets itself back to normal and doesn't > print anything. I was wondering if anyone had any ideas. > > Robin > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 11:59:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15717; Thu, 6 Apr 95 11:59:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26166; Thu, 6 Apr 95 11:42:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha.loyno.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26159; Thu, 6 Apr 95 11:42:43 -0700 Received: by alpha.loyno.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/22Jul94-0234PM) id AA04464; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 15:44:00 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 15:43:59 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mary Aplin To: pine Subject: Disable KBLock Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello Pine Info -- Is there a way to disable the KBLock (Keyboard Lock) feature of Pine? Also, I'm trying to print to my local printer; I've discovered that MacKermit and MicroPhone for Mac support it. I haven't been able to get Claris Works for Mac or Microsoft Works for Mac to work properly. Does anyone know of any other packages that support local printing? Thanks, Mary Aplin Loyola University, New Orleans From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 13:41:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20787; Thu, 6 Apr 95 13:41:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06639; Thu, 6 Apr 95 13:35:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06633; Thu, 6 Apr 95 13:35:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwyES-00038MC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 13:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Ctrl C won't work on our MACs Date: 5 Apr 1995 09:47:39 GMT Message-Id: <3ltovr$5ab@news.ysu.edu> References: In a previous article, jkent@seaccd.sccd.ctc.edu (Jean Kent) says: >We have several MACs attached to our local campus network and many people >have complained that Ctrl C doesn't work. I'm on a Mac with NCSA telnet right now, with two simultaneous sessions. With this telnet session I have no problem with the Emacs ^X^C. (SunOS) With the other session, I can't use ^C without a program aborting, and the RETURN in Pine or Emacs acts as a ^J linefeed, and when I resume a ^Z suspended session, the terminal is in a very weird mode. (BSD386) I've learned to use the ESC ESC x sequence in place of the ^x character, so when I forget and hit RETURN in the header, I try to remember to use ESC ESC C to cancel the request for an attachment. It's ugly, but it works, and for it I am grateful, since I've had to use it more often than I care to think. I suspect there's some interaction between the NCSA telnet client and the telnetd on the host, and I know I've seen the solution here before, so I suspect it will be reposted... -- Barry Bouwsma, will crash computers for chocolate and dental care Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) LOAD "SENDMAIL",8,1 driving a 300 baud Trabant on the Datenautobahn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 14:01:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21430; Thu, 6 Apr 95 14:01:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28866; Thu, 6 Apr 95 13:35:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28860; Thu, 6 Apr 95 13:35:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwyCR-00038OC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 13:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: No-op dead stream when using alternate editor Date: 5 Apr 1995 09:33:10 GMT Message-Id: <3lto4m$53a@news.ysu.edu> References: <3lsbtd$ldf@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> In a previous article, harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) says: >because apparently Pine simply suspends and waits for the alternate >editor to exit, and it isn't sending NOOP instructions down the line to >keep the IMAP connection active. I've experienced something similar during the time when the IMAP timeout should not occur. I'm not sure how I can definitively repeat the dead stream condition, and perhaps my setup is a bt unusual. I've hacked Pine to recognize the {imap.host/user=name} specification for pre-authenticated login, and to verify that would co-exist with the normal IMAP opening, I set both my local INBOX and a remote folder six timezones away to be accessed with IMAP. What appears to happen is that when I am in the remote folder, doing something like answering mail with an alternate editor or something, when I return to the local INBOX or leave the alternate editor, that local INBOX has become closed. I'm pretty sure I haven't left Pine suspended for the 30 minute IMAP inactivity timeout, but it doesn't always close when I think it might, and it's the *local* folder that's being closed with frequency. I'll have to do more checking to see how I can get this to happen with certainty, for I'm pretty sure the inactivity timer from a suspended Pine should *not* occur, but I'll have to check, and verify the hacks I've made do not interfere with Pine's normal operation. -- Barry Bouwsma, will crash computers for chocolate and dental care Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) LOAD "SENDMAIL",8,1 driving a 300 baud Trabant on the Datenautobahn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 14:48:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23664; Thu, 6 Apr 95 14:48:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07732; Thu, 6 Apr 95 14:34:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07724; Thu, 6 Apr 95 14:34:16 -0700 Received: by watsun.cc.columbia.edu id AA07762 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 6 Apr 1995 17:34:13 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 95 17:34:12 EDT From: Joe Brennan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Ctrl C won't work on our MACs In-Reply-To: Your message of 5 Apr 1995 09:47:39 GMT Message-Id: In Mac NCSA telnet, pull down Session, Setup Keys, and blank out the three boxes, especially the one that makes ^C be Interrupt Process (referring to the Mac!). Save the settings. I can't figure out why anyone would want the defaults; ^C is essential to unix systems. The ^J problem is tough. The return key and even literally control-M end up sending a ^J to the unix host. I've been told in some cases it's an old version of telnetd on the host. We gave up here and hacked pine so ^J is treated like RETURN (^M), and reassigned the functions of ^J to other control keys. Not too awful, although it's little changes all over the place. 3.91 was easier than 3.05. It would be a nice compile option to get the "No-control-j" version. Actually, I can only blame myself for not packaging the changes as patches yet. Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York brennan@columbia.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 15:13:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25047; Thu, 6 Apr 95 15:13:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00445; Thu, 6 Apr 95 14:44:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00439; Thu, 6 Apr 95 14:44:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwzKG-00038MC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 14:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: IMAP Client list needed Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 14:27:29 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3m16hl$f2a@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1375167708-797203649=:24189" In-Reply-To: <3m16hl$f2a@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1375167708-797203649=:24189 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There is an IMAP software list available at ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.software I have also attached a copy... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 6 Apr 1995, Bobby R. Whitus wrote: > Date: 6 Apr 1995 16:57:25 GMT > From: Bobby R. Whitus > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: IMAP Client list needed > > I would like to know what IMAP clients exist and what popular clients will > be supporting IMAP in future releases. I am interested in commercial, free > and shareware clients for all platforms. > > Bobby Whitus > Oak Ridge National Lab > whitusbr@ornl.gov > > --0-1375167708-797203649=:24189 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="imap.software" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: UmV2aXNlZDogOTUuMDMuMTQgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgVC4gR3JheQ0KRmlsZTogIHtmdHAu Y2FjLndhc2hpbmd0b24uZWR1fSAvbWFpbC9pbWFwLnNvZnR3YXJlDQpVcGRh dGVzIHRvOiBncmF5QGNhYy53YXNoaW5ndG9uLmVkdQ0KDQoNCiAgICAgICAg IEludmVudG9yeSBvZiBrbm93biBzb2Z0d2FyZSBzdXBwb3J0aW5nIElNQVAN CiAgICAgICAgICAgIChJbnRlcm5ldCBNZXNzYWdlIEFjY2VzcyBQcm90b2Nv bCkNCg0KLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLQ0KSU1BUCBQ Uk9UT0NPTCBTVEFUVVMNCi0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0NCg0KIFJGQyAxNzMwOg0KDQogICAgICAgIFRpdGxlOiAgICAgIElOVEVS 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pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: caz@zimnet.hanse.de (Carsten Zimmermann) Subject: Re: Message-ID Date: 6 Apr 1995 21:57:03 +0200 Message-Id: <3m1h2f$1kc@desdemona.zimnet.hanse.de> References: <3lqjq6$g56@mars.mahidol.ac.th> <3lvdg7$1hm@hustle.rahul.net> Rahul Dhesi (dhesi@rahul.net) wrote: : In Mike Lipscomb writes: : >> the former gives a Message-ID : >I had the same : >problem until I read the PINE technical docs! always have the : >fully-qualified domain name first and then any aliases for the /etc/hosts : >entry. For Linux i had to change the entry in /etc/HOSTNAME to the FQDN to get it work. But it still adds my hostnames to the message ID that isn't known to the net. (I'm just a UUCP Site) : What saves the user is that in almost all cases, syntactically-invalid : message-ids will be accepted by receiving software. I don't believe I : have ever observed email to be bounced or dropped because of an invalid : message-id. The only likely exception is that if a mail-to-News : gateway preserves the message-id, the gatewayed posting will likely be : dropped by inn sites, unless the gateway takes steps to correct the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : syntax in the message-id or generate a new one. Fortunately most such : gateways just replace the old message-id with a new valid one. I don't understand that. Why is it dropped ? Btw inn generates also wrong message-ID's for me. It also adds the Hostname to my domain. So perhaps my messages will be dropped also ? Carsten -- ***************************************************************************** *Carsten * caz@zimnet.hanse.de * "Problem ... -> * *Zimmermann * * Loesung ... " * *Hamburg-Barmbek * zimmermann@physnet.uni-hamburg.de * (Al Bundy) * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 18:53:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04324; Thu, 6 Apr 95 18:53:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05729; Thu, 6 Apr 95 18:44:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05723; Thu, 6 Apr 95 18:44:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rx320-00038MC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 18:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: epstein@napcc-hp.cvm.uiuc.edu (Milt Epstein) Subject: Possible addressbook bug, and some other Qs Date: 3 Apr 95 21:45:58 GMT Message-Id: I sent this report to the pine-bugs address, but got back a response that (among other things) suggested I try the pine newsgroup for a faster response, so I am posting it here. I had a problem with an entry in the global address book. I'm not sure it's a bug, but I couldn't find any specific problems. What happened is that I had an entry that had some number of levels of nested aliases/nicknames (i.e. other address book entries). Specifically, there was one entry that had six levels, including the very top and bottom levels, although I'm not sure that's significant. When I composed a message and gave the top level nickname as the To:, it was read in OK, but there was a problem with the format. When I moved down to the next header line, it indicated a problem with the contents of the To: line; the message was something like: "Junk at end of To: line: '> .......'". Looking back at the To: line, it looked like an address had been wrapped/split at an inappropriate place (in the middle of the domain name) and an end-of-line comma inserted there a bit before the address it seemed to be complaining about. The same problem occurred when I tried the next highest level nickname, but things were fine when I moved down another level. The problem also disappeared when I changed the order of the nicknames/names in the second highest level nickname -- the problem occurred when I had the nickname that continued the long chain listed first, but things were OK when I moved a regular name (i.e. a regular username, not a nickname) to the front of the list. Does this make sense? Sorry I had to describe it instead of sending the actual entries, but I'd rather not send those unless absolutely necessary. Besides this problem, I had a few other questions related to addressbook nicknames and how they appear in the To: line. 1. They appear including the "fullname" description of the nickname (the second field of the addressbook entry). Is there a way to set it up so that this does not appear? For such deeply nested nicknames, often the "fullname" isn't really meaningful (it's likely just some arbitrarily chosen grouping name). 2. Sometimes the number of actual addresses in a nickname can be fairly high, and you end up with a very long To: line. Is there a way to set it up so that the addresses are not shown (sort of like a Bcc:, or "address list suppressed" type of thing), or that only the nickname (or its corresponding fullname) is shown? Thanks for your help. -- Milt Epstein Visiting Research Programmer National Animal Poison Control Center (NAPCC) epstein@napcc-hp.cvm.uiuc.edu College of Veterinary Medicine (CVM) (or mepstein@uiuc.edu) University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 19:17:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05093; Thu, 6 Apr 95 19:17:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12773; Thu, 6 Apr 95 19:11:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12767; Thu, 6 Apr 95 19:11:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rx3U7-00038LC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 19:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Cohan Subject: Running pine with newsgroup loaded Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 22:47:47 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We are looking for a way to start pine with a newsgroup loaded similar to starting it with a folder opened using the -f option. We would like to start pine from a menu option (ie pine comp.mail.pine) and have the newsgroup loaded and the index screen displayed. Anyone have any ideas? Jim ****************************************************************************** Jim Cohan jcohan@freenet.mb.ca Information Provider Administrator Home: (204) 254-1471 Blue Sky Free-Net of Manitoba Work: (204) 474-3607 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 19:33:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05605; Thu, 6 Apr 95 19:33:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13007; Thu, 6 Apr 95 19:28:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from faxon.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13001; Thu, 6 Apr 95 19:27:52 -0700 Received: by faxon.ca (5.4R2.01/192.139.186.253) id AA19985; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 22:27:24 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 22:27:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Dion Vansevenant Reply-To: dion@faxon.ca To: Pine Messages Subject: Running two pines Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We are trying to set up Pine for some external users, and would like to do the following: 1) Use separate pine.conf and pine.conf.fixed files for the external users and internal users. 2) Direct Pine to create and use the .pinerc in the user's mail directory, as opposed to their home directory, due to a shared home directory. 3) Name the mail directory Mail.${LOGNAME} to differentiate between each users' mail directories. I have managed to get 2 & 3 to work for internal user with command line options, but getting 1 to work properly (the pine.conf.fixed is a must, don't want them changing certain values) is a bugger. Any help would be appreciated. Please direct answers to my email address, not just the list as I am no longer on the list. TIA Dion *----------------------------------------------* | Dion Vansevenant dion@faxon.ca email | | Faxon Canada Ltd. (519) 472-1006 voice | | London, ON Canada (519) 472-1072 fax | *----------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 19:34:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05652; Thu, 6 Apr 95 19:34:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06387; Thu, 6 Apr 95 19:27:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06381; Thu, 6 Apr 95 19:27:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rx3iG-00038MC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 19:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: krman@peinet.pe.ca (kevin MacRae) Subject: Re: POP reader on UNIX Date: 6 Apr 1995 19:11:44 GMT Message-Id: <3m1edg$rgi@bud.peinet.pe.ca> References: <3luind$kab@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> In article <3luind$kab@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>, bltst2+@pitt.edu (Brian L Tobin) writes: |> I have posted this question before, and no one answered. I dunno if that's just |> a stupid question, or there is no product. |> |> What I am looking for is this: |> - A E-Mail reader that has the ability to log onto our school's POP server, and |> retreive my mail. |> |> You see, I usually use Eudura for Macintosh over PPP to get my mail. But, when |> I'm in the labs, it's a pain in the butt to get my mail (I have to D/L Eudura, |> configure it...etc...) |> |> In any case, if there is such a program available available for UNIX, could |> someone please E-Mail with the name? |> |> Thanks alot. |> |> bltst2+@pitt.edu I hate poting other peoples scripts without giving credit, but I do not know where this came from. (comp.unix.unixware newgroup). This is a perl script than gets mail from a pop server. -------- Cut Here --------- #!/opt/bin/perl # # get_popmail -- connects to the remote popmail server. It then transfers # all mail from the popmail server to the local rmail, deleting them in the # process, if successful. # # get_popmail # # (For example: get_popmail popmail.mcs.com jack jack mypasswd) ($remote_system, $local_user, $remote_user, $remote_pw) = @ARGV; if ($#ARGV != 3) { die "usage: get_popmail \n"; } $debug = 0; # Set to !=0 to see full text sent and received. $AF_INET = 2; $SOCK_STREAM = 2; sub open_socket { local($Socket, $Port, $OtherHost) = @_; local($hostname, $name, $aliases, $type, $len); local($this, $thisadder, $that, $thatadder); local($sockaddr) = 'S n a4 x8'; chop($hostname = 'hostname'); ($name,$aliases,$Port) = getservbyname($Port,'tcp') unless $Port =~ /^\d+$/;; ($name,$aliases,$type,$len,$thisaddr) = gethostbyname($hostname); ($name,$aliases,$type,$len,$thataddr) = gethostbyname($OtherHost); $this = pack($sockaddr, $AF_INET, 0, $thisaddr); $that = pack($sockaddr, $AF_INET, $Port, $thataddr); # Give the socket an address. bind($Socket, $this) || die $!; # Call up the server. connect($Socket,$that) || die $!; # Set socket to be command buffered. select($Socket); $| = 1; select (STDOUT); } sub send { local ($Socket, $Who, $Var); $Socket = shift; $Who = shift; print $Who, " <- " if $debug; while ($Var = shift) { print $Socket $Var; print $Var if $debug; } } sub expect { local($Socket, $Who, $Expect) = @_; local($line, $first_field); $line=<$Socket>; print $Who, " -> ", $line if $debug; ($first_field) = split(/[ \t\n]/,$line); if ($Expect ne $first_field) { print "ERROR from ", $Who, ", expected ", $Expect, ", got ", $first_field, "\n"; } } sub login_remote { &expect (RemoteSMTP_Socket, "REM", "+OK"); &send (RemoteSMTP_Socket, "REM", "USER ", $remote_user, "\n"); &expect (RemoteSMTP_Socket, "REM", "+OK"); &send (RemoteSMTP_Socket, "REM", "PASS ", $remote_pw, "\n"); &expect (RemoteSMTP_Socket, "REM", "+OK"); } sub logout_remote { &send (RemoteSMTP_Socket, "REM", "QUIT\n"); &expect (RemoteSMTP_Socket, "REM", "+OK"); } sub message_count { &send (RemoteSMTP_Socket, "REM", "STAT\n"); $line=; print "REM-> ", $line if $debug; ($first_field, $message_count) = split(/[ \t\n]/,$line); if ($first_field ne "+OK") { print "ERROR from REM, expected +OK, got ", $first_field, "\n"; } print "Message count - ", $message_count, "\n" if $debug; $message_count; } # Get $proto. ($name, $aliases, $proto) = getprotobyname('tcp'); # Make and open the remote socket filehandle. socket(RemoteSMTP_Socket, $AF_INET, $SOCK_STREAM, $proto) || die $!; &open_socket(RemoteSMTP_Socket, 110, $remote_system); &login_remote; $count = message_count; print "Getting ", $count, " message(s)\n" if $debug; for ($i = 1; $i<=$count; $i++) { print "Copying message ", $i, "\n" if $debug; open(MAILOUT, "|rmail ".$local_user); &send (RemoteSMTP_Socket, "REM", "RETR ", $i, "\n"); &expect (RemoteSMTP_Socket, "REM", "+OK"); $line=; # Throw one line away. $line=; # Throw one line away. ($first_field) = split(/[ \t\n\r]/,$line); while ($first_field ne ".") { $line =~ s/\r//; print "REM -> ", $line if $debug; print MAILOUT $line; $line=; # Throw one line away. ($first_field) = split(/[ \t\n\r]/,$line); } close MAILOUT; die "rmail failed" if $?; # rmail gave bad status code &send (RemoteSMTP_Socket, "REM", "DELE ", $i, "\n"); &expect (RemoteSMTP_Socket, "REM", "+OK"); } &logout_remote; ----- Cut Here ----- I hope this helps. I have been using it for 2 months. Get perl script. ******************************************************************************* * Kevin MacRae Phone (902) 566-3198 * * Owner/Operator FAX (902) 566-3423 * * K & R Management Internet krman@peinet.pe.ca * ******************************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 22:30:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10083; Thu, 6 Apr 95 22:30:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15019; Thu, 6 Apr 95 22:20:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15013; Thu, 6 Apr 95 22:20:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rx6Rq-00038LC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 22:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.6.10 problem Date: 7 Apr 1995 01:44:28 GMT Message-Id: <3m25ds$6qm@news.ysu.edu> References: <3m1s07$bt8@news.nd.edu> In a previous article, jsquyres@kanga.cse.nd.edu (Jeff Squyres) says: >I am running SunOS 4.1.3 on a Sparc 10 with sendmail 8.6.10. [...] > >kanga sendmail[1635]: POSSIBLE ATTACK from username@localhost: newline in string > >I realize that newlines in strings were security problems before sendmail >8.6.10 but has now been apparently fixed, and this is why sendmail >is giving me this message, but why does the latest version of pine still >submit messages incorrectly this way? Is there a patch? This is a bug in BSD Sendmail v8.6.10. You should upgrade to sendmail 8.6.12, which no longer has this problem. Pine is not submitting the messages incorrectly. -- Barry Bouwsma, will crash computers for chocolate and dental care Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) LOAD "SENDMAIL",8,1 driving a 300 baud Trabant on the Datenautobahn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 23:29:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11471; Thu, 6 Apr 95 23:29:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09611; Thu, 6 Apr 95 23:15:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09605; Thu, 6 Apr 95 23:15:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rx7Im-00038LC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 23:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: epstein@napcc-hp.cvm.uiuc.edu (Milt Epstein) Subject: Some misc configuration questions Date: 6 Apr 95 22:48:40 GMT Message-Id: As the subject says, I have a few questions about configuring pine. 1. I noticed a behavior where when I replied to a message where I was among the original recipients, I am removed from the resulting recipients list (all on the To: line). Is there any way to set this up so I am not removed? (Mailers based on Berkeley mail have the "metoo" variable that controls this.) 2. Is there any way to get pine to show the line count of a message instead of the byte count in the index? 3. Is there any way to globally disable using pine for news? I tried setting nntp-server to "" in the fixed global config file. This seems to work, as no newsgroups as shown in the folder list. But when you enter the folder list and when you move down to the newsgroup listing, it beeps and displays the message "No such host as". This doesn't really cause any problems, but I was wondering whether there was a more definitive way to do it. 4. There were some things about the feature-list that I couldn't understand. First, a number of features were listed without their having been specified in the global or my personal config file (these are: enable-aggregate-command-set, enable-bounce-cmd, enable-flag-cmd, enable-jump-shortcut, and enable-suspend). In addition, I noticed the feature old-growth in my .pinerc (originally created automatically by pine), yet I couldn't find it mentioned in any of the documentation. I think these two may be related, since when I deleted old-growth from my .pinerc, those features were no longer set. However, upon subsequently exiting pine, old-growth magically reappeared, and the next time I ran pine those features were back again. Perhaps also related, I deleted signature-at-bottom from my .pinerc (since it is in our global config file), but it also magically reappeared after running pine. 5. Any reason why the standard-printer is shown as lpr even though it's set to lp in both the fixed and regular global config files? Thanks for any help/comments. -- Milt Epstein Visiting Research Programmer National Animal Poison Control Center (NAPCC) epstein@napcc-hp.cvm.uiuc.edu College of Veterinary Medicine (CVM) (or mepstein@uiuc.edu) University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 23:39:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11716; Thu, 6 Apr 95 23:39:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15769; Thu, 6 Apr 95 23:27:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15763; Thu, 6 Apr 95 23:27:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rx7SJ-00038LC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 23:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Re: Utility to read MIME-encoded message? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 13:27:53 -0600 References: <3lvcsp$rv@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3lvcsp$rv@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 5 Apr 1995, David James Makil wrote: => => HI, => => Would anyone be so kind as to point me in a direction where i may => find a tool, allowing me to decode a simple MIME-encoded message that i => received via the Pine mailer? Someone mentioned a site to me but => unfortunately after getting the *.tar file, I learned that installation of => the program required the use of various shell scripts and binaries. Is there => any other program out there that decodes mime messages? Perhaps on the DOS => platform? Or is installing the scripts, etc necessary for this task? => => Thanks, David => You may want mpack and munpack. unix1.andrew.cmu.edu:/pub/mpack/README.ftp Mpack and munpack are utilities for encoding and decoding (respectively) binary files in MIME (Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions) format mail messages. For compabibility with older forms of transferring binary files, the munpack program can also decode messages in split-uuencoded format. The mac port can also decode messages in split-binhex format. In short, mpack is the MIME equivalent of uudecode/binhex. Versions are included for unix, pc, os2, mac, amiga, and archimedes systems. This MIME implementation is intended to be as simple and portable as possible. For a slightly more sophisticated MIME implementation, see the program MetaMail, available via anonymous FTP to thumper.bellcore.com, in directory pub/nsb Files: mpack-1.5-src.tar.Z Source to all ports of version 1.5 mpack-1.5-src.tar.Z.asc PGP signature for mpack-1.5-src.tar.Z mpack15d.zip PC DOS binaries for version 1.5 mpack15d.asc PGP signature for mpack15d.zip mpack15o.zip OS/2 binaries for version 1.5 mpack15o.asc PGP signature for mpack15o.zip mpack-1.5-mac.hqx Mac binary for version 1.5 mpack-1.5-mac.hqx.asc PGP signature for mpack-1.5-mac.hqx mpack-1.5-amiga.lha Amiga binaries for version 1.5 mpack-1.5-amiga.lha.asc PGP signature for mpack-1.5-amiga.lha mpack-1.5-arc.arc Archimedes binaries for version 1.5 mpack-1.5-arc.arc.asc PGP signature for mpack-1.5-arc.arc mpack-1.5-linux.tar.gz Linux binaries for version 1.5 mpack-1.5-linux.tar.gz.asc PGP signature for mpack-1.5-linux.tar.gz mpack-1.5-netbsd.tgz NetBSD binaries for version 1.5 mpack-1.5-netbsd.tgz.asc PGP signature for mpack-1.5-netbsd.tgz The Mac version of mpack does both packing and unpacking. All other distributions include both mpack and munpack. Questions about files in this directory should be sent to mpack-bugs@andrew.cmu.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 Comment: Processed by mkpgp1.0, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAgUBL4PsEuBu0383Om6dAQEOBwP9G+NCGw9Y4Dw+nZIbTynUwWHC23RbuF3w wrGe58zFiOV6qWonxO/NzV7m8EAEig3oX09/cSABEpURKwz/dqyWoTtMvvXWukBk cbE6yqGvebdzbyMbQgb0E+Odb6IXNWK6Vf+MmJ5e7DY2bwyMbeUp7KfGTLLD84CW MS+PZ0R4ruo= =vvxX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka "The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 23:46:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11877; Thu, 6 Apr 95 23:46:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09861; Thu, 6 Apr 95 23:35:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09855; Thu, 6 Apr 95 23:35:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rx7c9-00038OC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 23:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tgpt_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Tom Guptill) Subject: Re: Pine for VMS; Help with libraries and configuration Message-Id: <1995Apr7.045316.28406@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> References: <1995Apr6.092051@cchs.su.edu.au> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 95 04:53:16 GMT In <1995Apr6.092051@cchs.su.edu.au> brennan@cchs.su.edu.au (Luke Brennan) writes: > PINE will compile for the various TCP/IP stacks available on > OpenVMS, and a seemless way is to use the portable interface > via NETLIB and the SOCKETSHR extensions. This means that if > you change TCP/IP provider or platform, no need to recompile! The free version of Pine/VMS will also work acceptably with no tcp/ip support at all. I'm running v3.89, and it's perfectly happy to use VMS mail to handle mail transport with only a couple of mchanges to the configuration files. It even automatically turns user@host.domain into in%"user@host.domain". Some of the other features available in the PMDF version (like PMDF alias/list management) aren't available in the free version, but as nobody else on the entire cluster (1000+ accounts?) has asked for Pine, I can't see any reason to ask the systems group to install it. I'm happy with v3.89, I don't use IMAP, and I can use my PMDF lists & aliases by just using user+alias@host.domain addressing. Works for me. :) Tom -- -- |Tom Guptill I don't speak for UCC from this account. | |tgpt_ltd@DB1.CC.ROCHESTER.EDU Nobody speaks for WRUR. | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 00:22:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12638; Fri, 7 Apr 95 00:22:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16251; Fri, 7 Apr 95 00:12:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16245; Fri, 7 Apr 95 00:12:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rx88J-00038LC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 00:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Lipscomb Subject: Re: Message-ID Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 13:47:29 -0500 Message-Id: References: <3lqjq6$g56@mars.mahidol.ac.th> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3lqjq6$g56@mars.mahidol.ac.th> On 4 Apr 1995, Prem Sumetpong - CC wrote: > I get different results if my /etc/hosts has > > host IP host host.domain > > and > > host IP host.domain host > > > the former gives a Message-ID > the latter gives a Message-ID You definitely want the latter case in /etc/hosts. I had the same problem until I read the PINE technical docs! always have the fully-qualified domain name first and then any aliases for the /etc/hosts entry. -Mike- ****************************************************************************** Michael Lipscomb Computing and Telecommunications, Room 789 voice: 901 448 5042 University of Tennessee, Memphis fax: 901 448 8199 877 Madison internet: mlipscom@utds01.utmem.edu Memphis TN 38163 ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 02:24:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15880; Fri, 7 Apr 95 02:24:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11991; Fri, 7 Apr 95 02:05:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11985; Fri, 7 Apr 95 02:05:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rx9ve-00038LC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 02:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: z_pattersohc@titan.sfasu.edu (Doughboy) Subject: Doing research paper on Pine..Help Me Message-Id: <1995Apr3.230555@titan.sfasu.edu> Date: 3 Apr 95 23:05:55 CST I'm doing a reasearch paper on the Pine editor, please send me your complaints and/or praise for the editor. In order for my project to be a success many opinions would be necessary. Thanks in advance z_pattersohc@titan.sfasu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 04:03:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18610; Fri, 7 Apr 95 04:03:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13194; Fri, 7 Apr 95 03:41:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13188; Fri, 7 Apr 95 03:41:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxBRv-00038OC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 03:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steve Bazyl Subject: NT port? Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 00:43:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just curious if anyone is working on/finished an NT port of Pine. Not necessarily looking for a GUI version console would be fine so long as don't need to keep the 16bit subsystem running.... Steven Bazyl Bazyl@cleo.bc.edu "Skip the formalities, please. I've left you a load of work and you don't have all eternity to fiddle with it. Certainly, 'Thou art God' -- but who isn't?" "Stranger in a Strange Land" Robert A. Heinlein From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 06:29:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23525; Fri, 7 Apr 95 06:29:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20612; Fri, 7 Apr 95 06:16:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20606; Fri, 7 Apr 95 06:16:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxDs8-00038MC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 06:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) Subject: return receipt Date: 7 Apr 1995 12:24:08 GMT Message-Id: <3m3at8$l06@news.primenet.com> I very much need to get return receipts or some manner of confirmation of email received. I can't find reference to it for Pine so doubt if it's supported or might it be undocumented? Please advise. If there is *any* mailer you know of that offers return receipt, I'll use it for at least certain critical emails. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 06:53:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24169; Fri, 7 Apr 95 06:53:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20880; Fri, 7 Apr 95 06:44:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20874; Fri, 7 Apr 95 06:44:11 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [3.21.24.83]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.11/8.6.10) with ESMTP id JAA10734; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 09:41:58 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.11/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA13545; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 09:41:57 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA08283; Fri, 7 Apr 95 09:40:29 EDT Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 09:40:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Bob Brody Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: return receipt In-Reply-To: <3m3at8$l06@news.primenet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 7 Apr 1995, Bob Brody wrote: > I very much need to get return receipts or some manner of confirmation > of email received. I can't find reference to it for Pine so doubt if > it's supported or might it be undocumented? Please advise. If there > is *any* mailer you know of that offers return receipt, I'll use it for > at least certain critical emails. > There was a long discussion a few months ago about return receipts. Pine does not provide return receipts. WordPerfect Office Main and cc:Mail will send receipts when a message is opened for reading. (That doesn't ensure that the recipient read it .) Nothing is more effective that asking the recipient at the end of the message to send a message of reply. That usually means he actually read \ it. Be advised that many people do not like the automatic receipt feature. They can clog up mailboxes and are especially annoying on lists. Hope this helps. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 08:51:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28346; Fri, 7 Apr 95 08:51:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18009; Fri, 7 Apr 95 08:36:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18003; Fri, 7 Apr 95 08:36:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxG1P-00038MC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 08:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: No-op dead stream when using alternate editor Date: 4 Apr 1995 20:58:21 GMT Message-Id: <3lsbtd$ldf@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> If you spawn an alternate editor (vi, emacs, ispell, whatever) by ^_ in the editing window and you obtain INBOX via IMAP, you can only keep your alternate editor open for as long as timeout takes on the IMAP server, because apparently Pine simply suspends and waits for the alternate editor to exit, and it isn't sending NOOP instructions down the line to keep the IMAP connection active. Any chance the code can be modified so that, when an alternate editor is spawned, the IMAP client will go into the background and continue to send NOOPs at the appropriate times? Since I use Pico for short compositions, but emacs when I need to write something long and involved, this gets me every time! -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 10:55:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04985; Fri, 7 Apr 95 10:55:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21214; Fri, 7 Apr 95 10:47:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21203; Fri, 7 Apr 95 10:47:54 -0700 Received: from trex (trex.kwantlen.bc.ca) by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA04052; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:47:32 -0700 Received: by trex (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA09097; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:47:32 +0800 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:47:31 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dumaresq X-Sender: david@trex To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Problem running with SLIP Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 809 Anyone had any luck getting Windows pc-pine and SLIP working with Trumpet winsock? Pine is finding the host but failing to connect to the IMAP server. It continues trying and after the first minute, and each 15 secs further, asks if you want to continue trying. I can telnet to the IMAP host from the winsock machine so it's alive and well. Thanks for any help, ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 11:14:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06473; Fri, 7 Apr 95 11:14:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21517; Fri, 7 Apr 95 10:59:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from usc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21511; Fri, 7 Apr 95 10:59:27 -0700 Received: from andre.usc.edu (lgore@andre.usc.edu [128.125.11.118]) by usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA17707 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:59:26 -0700 Received: (lgore@localhost) by andre.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id KAA02334; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:59:25 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:59:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Laurence (Bob) Gore" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII please send FAQ list! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 11:38:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08186; Fri, 7 Apr 95 11:38:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21457; Fri, 7 Apr 95 10:58:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alnitak.usc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21445; Fri, 7 Apr 95 10:58:33 -0700 Received: from almaak.usc.edu (lgore@almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.135]) by alnitak.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA20242 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:58:32 -0700 Received: (lgore@localhost) by almaak.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id KAA00289; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:58:32 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:58:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Laurence (Bob) Gore" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII please send FAQ list. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 12:34:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10689; Fri, 7 Apr 95 12:34:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27756; Fri, 7 Apr 95 12:25:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27750; Fri, 7 Apr 95 12:25:46 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15977; Fri, 7 Apr 95 12:25:44 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 12:25:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Milt Epstein Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Possible addressbook bug, and some other Qs In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 3 Apr 1995, Milt Epstein wrote: > I had a problem with an entry in the global address book. I'm not > sure it's a bug, but I couldn't find any specific problems. > > What happened is that I had an entry that had some number of levels of > nested aliases/nicknames (i.e. other address book entries). > Specifically, there was one entry that had six levels, including the > very top and bottom levels, although I'm not sure that's significant. > > When I composed a message and gave the top level nickname as the To:, > it was read in OK, but there was a problem with the format. When I > moved down to the next header line, it indicated a problem with the > contents of the To: line; the message was something like: "Junk at end > of To: line: '> .......'". Looking back at the To: line, it looked > like an address had been wrapped/split at an inappropriate place (in > the middle of the domain name) and an end-of-line comma inserted there > a bit before the address it seemed to be complaining about. Sounds like it might be a bug, all right. I'm not able to figure out what the problem might be without a specific example to work with. If you'd like to send me the addressbook and tell me which nicknames work and which don't, I'd be happy to look at it. Or, if you can cook up a fake addressbook with this problem, then you wouldn't have to send the real one. > 1. They appear including the "fullname" description of the nickname > (the second field of the addressbook entry). Is there a way to set it > up so that this does not appear? For such deeply nested nicknames, > often the "fullname" isn't really meaningful (it's likely just some > arbitrarily chosen grouping name). Not in 3.91. In 3.92 you will be able to have a blank fullname field for any entry and then it will do what you want, I think. > 2. Sometimes the number of actual addresses in a nickname can be > fairly high, and you end up with a very long To: line. Is there a way > to set it up so that the addresses are not shown (sort of like a Bcc:, > or "address list suppressed" type of thing), or that only the nickname > (or its corresponding fullname) is shown? You can use the Bcc line for that. When you're in the composer, type ^R while your cursor is in the headers and then you will see the Bcc line. -- > Milt Epstein > Visiting Research Programmer National Animal Poison Control Center (NAPCC) > epstein@napcc-hp.cvm.uiuc.edu College of Veterinary Medicine (CVM) > (or mepstein@uiuc.edu) University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC) Thanks, Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 13:43:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14359; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:43:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25275; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:22:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25265; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:22:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxKX1-00038MC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Clark Subject: pine news & .newsrc Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 17:56:09 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm writing some documentation on using pine as a newsreader & would like some help. For the new user (on my system at least) a .newsrc file is not automatically created. If a user goes into pine for the first time and wants to read the news he/she cannot until the .newsrc file has been created in their UNIX directory. I've gotten around this in classes I've taught by having them start up nn first. nn creates the .newsrc, then I have them quit nn and start up pine to read the news. My question-Is there any way to create a .newsrc in a user's directory solely from the pine interface? Thanks in advance ----------- David Clark \/\/\/\/\/\ There are only two or three human stories, and Boulder Valley Schools \ they go on repeating themselves as fiercely as clarkd@bvsd.k12.co.us \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ as if they had never happened http://bvsd.k12.co.us/~clarkd/home.htm \ before. http://www.mcp.com/~dclark/student.html \ -Willa Cather- ----------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 13:54:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14835; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:54:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29148; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:27:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29142; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:27:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxKcd-00038OC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Comment field in addressbooks Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 12:52:03 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3l5u0q$fsi@nx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3l5u0q$fsi@nx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Such a feature is coming in the next release... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA finger for PGP key On 27 Mar 1995, Klaus Wacker wrote: > Date: 27 Mar 1995 08:46:18 GMT > From: Klaus Wacker > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Comment field in addressbooks > > Is there any reasonable way to look at the comment field of > addressbooks? The only way I found so far was to try to edit it. It > would be nice To have something like a 'wide' view of addressbooks > which shows also the fcc and comment fields. > > -- > > | / | | | | | wacker@Physik.Uni-Dortmund.DE > | / | _ __ | | | _ _ | _ _ Klaus Wacker, Exp.Physik V > |/\ | _\ | | (_ | | | _\ / |_) /_) | Uni Dortmund > | \_|_(_|_|_|___) |_|_|_(_|_\__| \_/\___| D-44221 Dortmund > +49 (231) 755 3587 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL3clfd/IU4uTDdHNAQHFSAIAuE99M77f+95FGXQqeUfbfhwiw3upLtX9 Ibqr4aa5x5eq3QaEJq+gRHRHbLY5Ya/32G7HRfog9j9H4r2oxgrCqg== =pnmY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 13:54:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14862; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:54:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29024; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:22:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29018; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:22:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxKUv-00038LC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "George L. Westlund" Subject: Problem with PINE seeing messages as concatinated. Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 15:43:41 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We have a user who has reported (and I have verified it) that several messages are getting concatinated together when she view her INBOX. I've looked at the file and it looks OK and both from and mail see more messages than pine does (I've even read it into mail and saved it which is our usual fix). I edited the file and added additional returns before the messages in question and it starts Working (I used ".,$s/^From /^V^MFrom /" in vi to edit it). Has anyone else seen this? We are running pine 3.91 on AIX 3.2.5. It has had the problem with the originally distrubted binary as well as one we've compiled with -O2. George L. Westlund || Internet: gwestlu@calpoly.edu Academic Computing Services || BITNET: DI001@CALPOLY.BITNET Cal Poly || NoiseNET: (805)756-6543 San Luis Obispo, CA 93407 || FAX: (805)756-1536 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 14:03:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15190; Fri, 7 Apr 95 14:03:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25704; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:37:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25698; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:37:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxKkS-00038MC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Invalid mail folder Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 16:16:16 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hello. By any chance, is the date that works something like "Mar 31" and the date that loses something like "Apr 3" (as opposed to "Apr 3")? In the "From " header line, the date is a fixed format ctime() format string, and thus the day field is fixed-width (hence requiring a leading space for single-digit days). This is usually caused by a non-standard mail delivery program at the local site, and generally when this gets called to their attention the sysadmins at the site fix it pronto. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" (est.) On Mon, 3 Apr 1995, Kneppers Marc wrote: > Hi, > > I have Pine 3.89 running on a SVR4 UNix Box (MIPS). It's been running > great for a few months now but suddenly on the weekend we've run into a snag. > > WHen opening the INBOX I get the error message "[INBOX] is not a folder". > > The format has not changed from last week to this week so I don't see > what has gone wrong. > > If I change the date in the very first line of the INBOX to be March instead > of April -- all of a sudden Pine works again (reads the INBOX). > > Another weird thing is that if I send mail to someone, the mail gets > appended to the first mail message (that has a non-april date). So, I get > 1 mail file that contains more than 1 mail message. > > ANy thoughts? > (I am a little worried as this is occuring suprisingly close to April Fool's > day). > > Thanks, > Marc Kneppers > knepperm@cuug.ab.ca > (or kneppersm@acs.ucalgary.ca) > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 14:28:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16404; Fri, 7 Apr 95 14:28:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00372; Fri, 7 Apr 95 14:12:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00366; Fri, 7 Apr 95 14:12:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxLFg-00038MC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 14:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dan Peterson Subject: Configuring for Mime attachment Date: 6 Apr 1995 00:05:52 GMT Message-Id: <3lvb90$70g@data.interserv.net> How can I configure Pine to view the following attachment. Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="OFFCPLA3.DOC" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="OFFCPLA3.DOC" When I try to view it, I get the following message: Don't now how to display attachment format Application/OCTET-STREAM Assuming I can decode the attachment, are there any UNIX tools, possibly X-based, that will allow me to view the .DOC file, which is a Microsoft Word document. Looking for a free option here, something Public Domain. Along the same lines, are there any UNIX tools which would allow me to view other DOS or Windows files. ie. Excel, WordPerfect, etc -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Peterson Internet: pete@spry.com Senior UNIX Engineer Phone: (206) 447-0300 SPRY, Inc, Seattle, WA FAX: (206) 447-9008 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 15:52:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20637; Fri, 7 Apr 95 15:52:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28620; Fri, 7 Apr 95 15:47:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28614; Fri, 7 Apr 95 15:47:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxMo1-00038LC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 15:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Philip Nelson Subject: Re: Ideas for PINE GUI and libraries (q) Date: 27 Mar 1995 21:18:08 GMT Message-Id: <3l7a2g$pa0@netnet2.netnet.net> References: <199503212016.AA03317@fubar.wang.com> forrie@wang.com (Forrest Aldrich) wrote: > I am interested in any work people are doing to develop an MS-Windows GUI > for PINE. I understand someone is working on an X-WINDOWS version called > Spruce (the author is on vacation right now). Windows pine is already available. I've been using it for a few months now. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 16:59:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28922; Fri, 7 Apr 95 16:59:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03894; Fri, 7 Apr 95 16:53:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03888; Fri, 7 Apr 95 16:53:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxNpR-00038OC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 16:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: afcasta@millenium.texas.net (Al Castanoli) Subject: Re: Unsubscribe to all newsgroups Date: 26 Mar 1995 17:35:25 GMT Message-Id: <3l48kt$1g6@empire.texas.net> References: <3kccl2$n8h@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> Mike Brudenell (pmb1@tmphost.york.ac.uk) wrote: : [...] : Some newsreaders automatically check for new newsgroups as they start : up. Pine does not do that at present (it may one day; anyone care to : comment?). : [...] Since you asked, I think it's an awful idea....whenever I'm testing out a new newsreader hack, it hangs up on "subscribe newsgroup alt.fan.foo" or some such (for we all know what a pain it is to run an ls -lt against the index of newsgroup files) until I go in and answer no to the question with my old newsreader (tin). -- Al Castanoli | afcasta@texas.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 18:18:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02267; Fri, 7 Apr 95 18:18:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07410; Fri, 7 Apr 95 18:08:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07404; Fri, 7 Apr 95 18:08:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxOy6-00038LC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 18:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jeffj@crl.com (Jeff Jones) Subject: Better spell checker? Date: 7 Apr 1995 16:57:39 -0700 Message-Id: <3m4jhj$nkq@crl.crl.com> While the spell checker for pine is useful in that it tells you that the word is misspelled, I need it to correct my poor spelling too. Is there any good spell checkers out there that will work with pine that will do this? Thanks for any and all help! Jeff -- Look at ftp://ftp.crl.com/users/ro/jeffj/www/home.html for information on the New Party, list of worker owned businesses, other progressive causes and DX QSL information. jeffj@crl.com AB6MB KPFA 94.1 Bay Area Progressive Radio! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 19:05:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03394; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:05:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06136; Fri, 7 Apr 95 18:58:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06130; Fri, 7 Apr 95 18:58:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxPla-00038LC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 18:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark N Schummer Subject: Drummers!Greg Bissonette Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 13:30:30 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thursday, April 13, former drummer for David Lee Roth, and even Maynard Ferguson, Greg Bissonette, will be on the University Campus, performing with the University of Montana Percussion Ensemble and the "Islanders" Steel Drum Band at 4pm. This event is in collaboration with the Percussive Arts Society's "Day of Percussion." The day costs $5 ($3 for PAS members). It should be great fun! Another special guest will be there as well. Hope to see you there!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 19:45:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04281; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:45:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08726; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:38:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08720; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:38:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxQLy-00038LC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jean Kent Subject: Ctrl C won't work on our MACs Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 20:46:56 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We have several MACs attached to our local campus network and many people have complained that Ctrl C doesn't work. Thus, they can't cancel messages, etc. I was told that changing the .profile file would correct the problem. I substituted ^? for ^H. It didn't work. We are running Pine on an HP9000, unix platform. Help! ****************************************************************************** Jean Kent, Librarian Phone: (206) 528-3835 North Seattle Community College FAX: (206) 527-3614 9600 College Way North Seattle, WA 98103 email: jkent@seaccd.sccd.ctc.edu ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 19:45:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04303; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:45:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06693; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:38:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06687; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:38:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxQM4-00038MC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jean Kent Subject: Printing from a laser printer Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 20:50:08 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I recently bought a laser printer, but I can no longer print out my email messages. I have been using the terminal program in Windows to dial into my account. I've talked with others on my campus who also have trouble printing with laser printers. Any suggestions would be appreciated. ****************************************************************************** Jean Kent, Librarian Phone: (206) 528-3835 North Seattle Community College FAX: (206) 527-3614 9600 College Way North Seattle, WA 98103 email: jkent@seaccd.sccd.ctc.edu ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 19:59:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04583; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:59:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08937; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:53:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08925; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:53:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxQbJ-00038LC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Re: Utility to read MIME-encoded message? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 11:44:17 -0600 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 6 Apr 1995, J. Kelly Cunningham wrote: => On 5 Apr 1995, David James Makil wrote: => => => => => HI, => => => => Would anyone be so kind as to point me in a direction where i may => => find a tool, allowing me to decode a simple MIME-encoded message that i => => You may want mpack and munpack. => => unix1.andrew.cmu.edu:/pub/mpack/README.ftp => I have been informed that I should be giving ftp.andrew.cmu.edu as the location of mpack, not unix1.andrew.cmu.edu. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 Comment: Processed by mkpgp1.0, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAgUBL4UlaOBu0383Om6dAQES6QP/QvwxNgQF3B3Xr+iuts99tv7WDnI+Te2R FWLmVhYiSmquQnWCba9fKMrHX6YeQ55vN2ve8q1uwNPjtqVcRjpIdHDc2zNydC/y T768hhFOP5BZ131sWf7GcFV+PCd7dI0WZxn9z2OlnqylsleeQWf4lOVWZvIIF6dM ngWOUUbeqAo= =hIqt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka "The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 20:41:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05380; Fri, 7 Apr 95 20:41:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07359; Fri, 7 Apr 95 20:38:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07353; Fri, 7 Apr 95 20:38:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxRKL-00038LC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 20:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phibn231@moe.cc.emory.edu (Paul Joseph Welty) Subject: Phantom incoming folders Date: 7 Apr 1995 14:33:08 GMT Message-Id: <3m3if4$pbj@moe.cc.emory.edu> Somehow I created 2 incoming mail folders whose names *do* appear in the incoming mail folders list. However, when I try to delete them (which I would really like to do), PINE tells me that they do not exist. Where are they? How do I nix them? Thanks in advance. Paul Welty From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 21:22:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06149; Fri, 7 Apr 95 21:22:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09993; Fri, 7 Apr 95 21:13:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09987; Fri, 7 Apr 95 21:13:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxRsp-00038LC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 21:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mnavarro@xmission.xmission.com (arakpacha) Subject: south america Date: 7 Apr 1995 20:08:33 GMT Message-Id: <3m4641$55r@news.xmission.com> I have this adrees (rhernand@socompa.cecun.ucn.cl)and always I receive the MAILSERV with unknown host. some help please Manuel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 22:50:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08329; Fri, 7 Apr 95 22:50:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08764; Fri, 7 Apr 95 22:43:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08758; Fri, 7 Apr 95 22:43:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxTHR-00038LC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 22:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: External Editor Date: 7 Apr 1995 14:15:12 -0700 Message-Id: References: <1995Mar29.164730.15153@ultb.isc.rit.edu> css0958@osfmail.isc.rit.edu (SWANSON) writes: >Quick question: I just started using Pine. It has it's limitations >but it is rather useful. I'm curious what limitations you're thinking about, especially in 3.90 or 3.91? Please post them. >My question is, how do I link in >an external editor. I'd much rather us vi than the default >editor. I chnaged the value under the setup/config >to 'vi' but i wont start it up when I compose or reply to >a message. Any ideas? Help! Use either the enable-alternate-editor-implicitly or enable-alternate-editor-cmd commands. For more info see the help screens, which are accessed with `?', in the configuration setup screen. -- /\_/\ @..@ /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) http://www.halcyon.com/nancym/ ( o.o ) > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 23:54:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09970; Fri, 7 Apr 95 23:54:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09446; Fri, 7 Apr 95 23:48:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jeffnet.efn.org by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09440; Fri, 7 Apr 95 23:48:01 -0700 Received: from jeffnet.efn.org (kevinw@jeffnet.efn.org [198.68.17.76]) by jeffnet.efn.org (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA26863 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 23:05:54 -0800 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 23:05:53 -0800 From: Kevin Workman Subject: Printing To: Pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Howdy, I am using Pine 3.89 on my access provider. The provider is running Linux 1.1.59 (POSIX) and I am connecting from a dos box running Qmodem 4.5. I am wondering if there is a way to configure Pine to print my messages on my printer. I have tried all the term emulations that are available to me with no luck. Thanks Kevin Workman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 23:54:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09992; Fri, 7 Apr 95 23:54:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12146; Fri, 7 Apr 95 23:49:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12135; Fri, 7 Apr 95 23:48:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxUIq-00038LC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 23:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sean@cortex.ama.ttuhsc.edu (Sean Dougherty) Subject: Re: Global addressboks for Pine Message-Id: References: <3lcdg0$bon@lynx.unm.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 04:46:18 GMT Lew Newby Jr. (lnewby@unm.edu) wrote: : How can I create a Global address book and a correct reference to it : in the .pinerc? Also would this work in PC-Pine? Here we have a global address book in /usr/local/lib we call it TECH_AMA_ADDRESSES (you can call it anything you like) Also in /usr/local/lib our pine.conf (so everybody see's the same address book) has an entry like: # List of file or path names for global/shared addressbook(s). # Default: none # Syntax: optnl-label path-name global-address-book=/usr/local/lib/TECH_AMA_ADDRESSES # List of file or path names for personal addressbook(s). # Default: ~/.addressbook (Unix) or \PINE\ADDRBOOK (PC) # Syntax: optnl-label path-name address-book= (you .pinerc file will look the same, but I recomend that you use the pine.conf so that you do not have to edit everybodies .pinerc file) AS FAR AS THE PC VERSION -- I thought I had that working once, but my machine is the one that is experimented on with new software and now it doesn't. As soon as I get my pc back up though, I'll try to drop you a line. Also I have a long (11M postscript) document on how to use pine for absolute beginners. If you would like to see the first couple of pages to see if it is something you could use let me know. good luck sean From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 23:57:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10043; Fri, 7 Apr 95 23:57:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12219; Fri, 7 Apr 95 23:52:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jeffnet.efn.org by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12213; Fri, 7 Apr 95 23:52:43 -0700 Received: from jeffnet.efn.org (kevinw@jeffnet.efn.org [198.68.17.76]) by jeffnet.efn.org (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA26878 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 23:10:36 -0800 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 23:10:35 -0800 From: Kevin Workman Subject: Remote folders and filters To: Pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Howdy, my access provider is using pine 3.89 and running Linux 1.1.59 (POSIX). I am wondering if there is an easy way to set up some remote folders for another server that I use. Currently that server is forwarding all my mail to this system. Also can someone let me know where I can find some filter programs that will let me sort incoming mail into seperate folders? And finally, in all the help screens it says you can do this and that in the configuration menu but neither of the access providers version of Pine has a configuration menu. Is this something that is available in a newer version? Thanks for the help Kevin Workman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 00:17:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10490; Sat, 8 Apr 95 00:17:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12465; Sat, 8 Apr 95 00:11:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from netcom20.netcom.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12459; Sat, 8 Apr 95 00:11:17 -0700 Received: by netcom20.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id AAA13975; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 00:11:13 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 00:11:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Juanita Fischer X-Sender: juanfisc@netcom20 To: Paul Joseph Welty Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Phantom incoming folders In-Reply-To: <3m3if4$pbj@moe.cc.emory.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Someone helped me when I had this problem, so I'll try to help you. Hopefully one of these two suggestions will work. Make sure that the files with these names actually have been deleted from your folder directory. Then edit your .pinerc file and delete the folder names from your incoming folder statement. You can't do this from the config menu. You haved to edit the .pinerc file. Good luck. On 7 Apr 1995, Paul Joseph Welty wrote: > Somehow I created 2 incoming mail folders whose names *do* appear in the > incoming mail folders list. However, when I try to delete them (which I > would really like to do), PINE tells me that they do not exist. Where > are they? How do I nix them? Thanks in advance. > > Paul Welty > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 01:02:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11447; Sat, 8 Apr 95 01:02:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10132; Sat, 8 Apr 95 00:58:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from is1.hk.super.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10126; Sat, 8 Apr 95 00:58:49 -0700 Received: by is1.hk.super.net id AA10329 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for Pine-Info ); Sat, 8 Apr 1995 15:58:45 +0800 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 15:58:45 +0800 (HKT) From: Kevin Yeung To: Pine-Info Subject: When does Pine backup my mail? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, Sometimes when I'm composing my mail in Pine and I got logged out suddenly, Pine resumes my mail when next time I login again. However, it doesn't always do this to protect me. When and under what circumstances will pine do such protection and when not? Thank you. (BTW, I'm dialing up to a UNIX server via modem.) -- Kevin Yeung email: keviny@hk.super.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 01:47:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12681; Sat, 8 Apr 95 01:47:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10716; Sat, 8 Apr 95 01:44:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10710; Sat, 8 Apr 95 01:44:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxW5w-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 01:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: "=20" at end of lines Message-Id: <1736C9D5FS86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <3l0794$g13@anshar.shadow.net> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 11:11:21 GMT In article <3l0794$g13@anshar.shadow.net> odin@anshar.shadow.net (PNEWS) writes: >In not all but in some of the text sent out over a mailing list for which >I use a mail alias I get these funny end of line "=20" characters. Trailing space(s) when mail is transmitted in qp mode. But if the recipient is using a MIME-compatible reader they will not see these. qp encoding is only seen by s/one viewing the raw MIME. > Curiously it only occurs occasionally. Trailing space(s) alone would not cause PINE to use QP encoding, I think. But if it uses qp encoding for some other reason, it will encode trailing spaces in this way. > Is this something I can compensate >for Don't do whatever it is that you are doing to put PINE into qp mode ;-) Somewhere in that MIME is likely to be some other =xx encoding or other reason for PINE to have chosen to use qp encoding. >or is it a MIME incompatability at the receiver's site? Sounds as if the receiver does not use a MIME-compatible mail client. >Any ideas? Please don't say that, it's so irritating! We all have ideas, some are more practical than others... have fun From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 02:13:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13206; Sat, 8 Apr 95 02:13:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14041; Sat, 8 Apr 95 02:08:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14033; Sat, 8 Apr 95 02:08:03 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA11299; Sat, 8 Apr 95 11:06:21 +0200 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 11:06:21 +0200 (METDST) From: Vladimir Solnicky Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "=20" at end of lines In-Reply-To: <1736C9D5FS86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Sat, 25 Mar 1995, Alan J Flavell wrote: > In article <3l0794$g13@anshar.shadow.net> > odin@anshar.shadow.net (PNEWS) writes: > =20 > >In not all but in some of the text sent out over a mailing list for whic= h > >I use a mail alias I get these funny end of line "=3D20" characters. > =20 > Trailing space(s) when mail is transmitted in qp mode. But if the > recipient is using a MIME-compatible reader they will not see these. > qp encoding is only seen by s/one viewing the raw MIME. Unfortunately I also saw some mailing lists processors removing the=20 header line ``MIME-Version: 1.0''. Than a MIME-aware mail reader doesn't=20 help I think ... | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz Europe WWW (will) be at http://www.utia.cas.cz/home/WWW/data/user_data/vs/vs-home.= http From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 03:02:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14181; Sat, 8 Apr 95 03:02:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14620; Sat, 8 Apr 95 02:59:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14611; Sat, 8 Apr 95 02:59:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxXF3-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 02:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cttest@ix.netcom.com (A-G Beta) Subject: Is anyone seeing this? Date: 6 Apr 1995 21:59:59 GMT Message-Id: <3m1o8v$s3d@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> I have posted several messages to this newsgroup, and none have been answered. From what I can tell, this newsgroup is part of a Pine listserv. Can someone tell me how to subscribe to it? Thanks again From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 03:34:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14958; Sat, 8 Apr 95 03:34:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11682; Sat, 8 Apr 95 03:29:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11676; Sat, 8 Apr 95 03:29:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxXkM-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 03:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ronald D. Kurr" Subject: Re: HOW TO PROPERLY ATTACH BINARIES Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 13:12:33 -0400 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199504071603.MAA106048@acs.bu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 7 Apr 1995 ambo@acs.bu.edu wrote: > In article you wrote: > > : How do I speicify the MIME type when attaching a binary? As a test, I sent > : an image to myself and all pine could do was run od against it. I have my > : .mailcap set up and it is supposed to run xv for images. Obviously, I'm > : encoding the fact that the .bmp file is an image. Any ideas? > > Most of what you said here is above me since I'm a newbie but I don't do > anything special to attach binaries. A friend and I pass Mac binary Photo- > shop files back and forth. The files go from Mac to IBM RS6000 through Pine > to another RS6000 and back down to a Mac. (I'm probably missing your point): > I wasn't clear in my message. I can attach the binaries and send them to people. What I can't figure out is how to tell the recieving mailers what TYPE of binary is coming. The mailcap file specifies what viewer to run when a particular type of binary is viewed. For example, in the default mailcap file, all binaries designated IMAGE should be displayed using the xv viewer. What happens when I mail the file to myself and other pine users, is that pine doesn't know what the binary type is and simply brings up a hex viewer on the file. What I want is to understand how to tell pine to designate the binary as an image file so that that other MIME compatible readers can behave intelligently. Ron Ronald D. Kurr Voice: (603) 337-7363 Cabletron Systems, Inc. Fax : (603) 337-7370 PO Box 5005 kurr@ctron.com Rochester, NH 03868 "Opinions expressed are my wife's." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 04:00:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15384; Sat, 8 Apr 95 04:00:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11923; Sat, 8 Apr 95 03:56:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11917; Sat, 8 Apr 95 03:56:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxY9Q-00038MC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 03:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rrlepage@stthomas.edu Subject: Re: signature block Date: 4 Apr 95 14:37:56 +600 Message-Id: <1995Apr4.143756.1@milo> Hi, Can someone explain how I can add an *signature block* automatically with my messages?? I have the 3.89 version and need fairly explicit instructions because am new... Thanks, Ric LePage rrlepage@stthomas.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 05:52:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18269; Sat, 8 Apr 95 05:52:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16855; Sat, 8 Apr 95 05:45:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16849; Sat, 8 Apr 95 05:45:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxZoT-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 05:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry.Bouwsma@tuke.sk Subject: Re: Stripped addresses and IMAP clients Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 01:59:45 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: John, I hate to tell you this, but the pine-info to comp.mail.pine gateway never passed this article, nor could I find it on the zmailer archive. I only found out about it after I saw someone else quote from it, and then I had to search the pine-info archive, where a couple other of your posts appeared that had never made it to news. I haven't looked thoroughly to see if there are other posts mailed to pine-info that never made it through the gateway. Also, said news to mail and back gateway fails to pass the Reply-To: header from one to the other, which could be a problem for those whose From: fields are not the ones at which mail is desired... On Tue, 21 Mar 1995, John Gardiner Myers wrote: > writes: > > Zmailer rewrites the fully-qualified sender's name, if delivery is > > done locally, with only the login. > > ICK! But then, this is not too much different from how the mail would appear were it to be sent by Unix mail, such as... % uuencode core My_last_Unix_act.jpg | mail -s "Oh yeah? Up yours" root ...since most rewriting rules do not add hostname for local delivery. As a result, I've added comp.mail.headers (and dropped the zmailer group) to debate the merits of headers with only the login for the address. I was discussing how I attempted to reply to a message received on a remote machine, but delivered locally on that machine, retrieved via IMAP. My reply wound up with the *local* hostname appended to the login, which was not a valid recipient... > > Given that zmailer is delivering mail in this rather distributed > > environment, my feeling is that what it should be doing (and what any > > MTA should be doing), given the increased use of remote protocols such > > as IMAP to read mail, is not reducing e-mail addresses to the bare > > minimum, with the resulting ambiguity, but rather, the MTA should > > instead always be completing incomplete e-mail addresses. Comments? > > I agree with you completely. Zmailer should not be gratuitously > rewriting a perfectly valid, RFC 822 conforming, address into > something which is not even syntactically valid. > > The IMAP servers then try to turn this garbage back into something > that is syntactically valid, but as you seem to have found out it is > sometimes Garbage In Garbage Out. I've done more tests, having read through the IMAP4 RFC in a state of exhaustion to the point of hallucination, since it seemed that page 48 gave the indication that an IMAP client should be able to reconstruct the address as the IMAP server provides the hostname in its replies. Attempting to reply to a number of messages with no hostname in the address, whether stripped to form by zmailer, or simply never given the hostname by the sendmail rules for local delivery; in all cases, I wound up with a reply to the correct address, hostname and all. Then I got to thinking. The mailbox from which I read the mail is a bit distant, so I am in the habit of saving my mail to which I wish to reply to a local mailbox, so that the connection to the IMAP server does not hinder my composing a response. When I saved messages from a couple different IMAP servers, with the address as either login (from Unix mail on local machine) or (from Pine stripped by zmailer), and attempted to reply to those, I could not get the correct address. The information provided by the IMAP server about the hostname is lost when the message is saved to the local folder. My question now is: should the IMAP client be saving the message with the qualified address, so that information does not get lost? And would it be a good idea for the various sendmail rewriting rules to provide the full address as a default, even for messages delivered locally, in case those messages are accessed remotely and transferred to another machine? While the simplicity of a simple login for an address may have had its merits in years past, I feel that the time may have come to recognize that mail delivered locally doesn't always stay that way, and in my opinion, it would be preferable for the default sendmail rules to provide a complete e-mail address for delivery, even locally, regardless of the source of the mail (Pine, Unix mail, or whatever). Of course, there will always be mail with only the login for an address, so perhaps the IMAP client should do something with these when placing them anywhere other than where the message was received... Barry Bouwsma From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 06:26:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18927; Sat, 8 Apr 95 06:26:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13593; Sat, 8 Apr 95 06:20:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13587; Sat, 8 Apr 95 06:20:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxaQV-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 06:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: Utility to read MIME-encoded message? Message-Id: <173789F4DS86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <3lvcsp$rv@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 10:19:35 GMT In article <3lvcsp$rv@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> casimir@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (David James Makil) writes: > Would anyone be so kind as to point me in a direction where i may >find a tool, allowing me to decode a simple MIME-encoded message that i >received via the Pine mailer? I found a simple filter written in C, called "encdec". I think I used archie (or possibly Lycos search) to find it. It doesn't need any other binaries or scripts. If you don't manage to find it, email me and I'll look for you. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 09:11:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21764; Sat, 8 Apr 95 09:11:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19107; Sat, 8 Apr 95 09:00:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from midway.uchicago.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19101; Sat, 8 Apr 95 09:00:14 -0700 Received: from quads.uchicago.edu (quads.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.63]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA22471 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 11:00:14 -0500 Received: (tadelaun@localhost) by quads.uchicago.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id KAA02576; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 10:59:32 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 10:59:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Delaune To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Trouble with Bcc and Addressbook Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've had difficulty sending bcc messages to members of a relatively large distribution list (now 60 -- I was originally trying 240, but broke the list into 4): I'm trying to send a message to all these folks without sending them long headers they'll have to scroll through. Everything works fine until the point I send, when I get a short note on the screen saying either "Memory #" or "Bus #". But the debug transcripts indicate the sends are successful. Nevertheless, I only get the message in my Fcc file (though I am the primary addressee) and none of the members of the distribution list report ever getting the message at all. Is this a pine problem? A system problem? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And the torture of chalk dust collects on my tongue Thoughts follow my vision and dance in the sun All my vasoconstrictors become slowly undone Can't this wait till I'm old? Can't I live while I'm young? -- Phish Tim Delaune -- tadelaun@midway.uchicago.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 09:21:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21921; Sat, 8 Apr 95 09:21:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19264; Sat, 8 Apr 95 09:11:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19258; Sat, 8 Apr 95 09:11:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxd1H-00038RC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 09:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsquyres@kanga.cse.nd.edu (Jeff Squyres) Subject: Sendmail 8.6.10 problem Date: 6 Apr 1995 23:03:34 GMT Message-Id: <3m1s07$bt8@news.nd.edu> I am running SunOS 4.1.3 on a Sparc 10 with sendmail 8.6.10. When pine replies to all recipients (and this list of recipients is rather long), I get the following message on my console: kanga sendmail[1635]: POSSIBLE ATTACK from username@localhost: newline in string "user1@host1.edu, user2@host2.edu, user3@host3.edu, user4@host4.edu, user5@host5.edu, user6@host6.edu, ....... " etc. I realize that newlines in strings were security problems before sendmail 8.6.10 but has now been apparently fixed, and this is why sendmail is giving me this message, but why does the latest version of pine still submit messages incorrectly this way? Is there a patch? {+} Jeff Squyres {+} Squyres@nd.edu {+} Perpetual Obsessive Notre Dame Student Craving Utter Madness. {+} (5 years and counting -- 2 more years of eligibility) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 09:31:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22118; Sat, 8 Apr 95 09:31:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19333; Sat, 8 Apr 95 09:18:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19327; Sat, 8 Apr 95 09:18:53 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15668; Sat, 8 Apr 95 09:18:41 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 09:18:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Ronald D. Kurr" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HOW TO PROPERLY ATTACH BINARIES In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ron, Unfortunately you can't control the MIME type in current version, but you will be able to in the next one via a "mimetypes" file. -teg On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, Ronald D. Kurr wrote: > On Fri, 7 Apr 1995 ambo@acs.bu.edu wrote: > > > In article you wrote: > > > > : How do I speicify the MIME type when attaching a binary? As a test, I sent > > : an image to myself and all pine could do was run od against it. I have my > > : .mailcap set up and it is supposed to run xv for images. Obviously, I'm > > : encoding the fact that the .bmp file is an image. Any ideas? > > > > Most of what you said here is above me since I'm a newbie but I don't do > > anything special to attach binaries. A friend and I pass Mac binary Photo- > > shop files back and forth. The files go from Mac to IBM RS6000 through Pine > > to another RS6000 and back down to a Mac. (I'm probably missing your point): > > > > I wasn't clear in my message. I can attach the binaries and send them to > people. What I can't figure out is how to tell the recieving mailers what > TYPE of binary is coming. The mailcap file specifies what viewer to run when > a particular type of binary is viewed. For example, in the default mailcap > file, all binaries designated IMAGE should be displayed using the xv viewer. > What happens when I mail the file to myself and other pine users, is that > pine doesn't know what the binary type is and simply brings up a hex viewer > on the file. What I want is to understand how to tell pine to designate the > binary as an image file so that that other MIME compatible readers can > behave intelligently. > > Ron > > Ronald D. Kurr Voice: (603) 337-7363 > Cabletron Systems, Inc. Fax : (603) 337-7370 > PO Box 5005 kurr@ctron.com > Rochester, NH 03868 > > "Opinions expressed are my wife's." > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 12:02:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25064; Sat, 8 Apr 95 12:02:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16794; Sat, 8 Apr 95 11:56:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16788; Sat, 8 Apr 95 11:56:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxfgG-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 11:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ashok Aiyar Subject: Re: Problem running with SLIP Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 11:34:17 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 7 Apr 1995, David Dumaresq wrote: > Anyone had any luck getting Windows pc-pine and SLIP working with Trumpet > winsock? > > Pine is finding the host but failing to connect to the IMAP server. It > continues trying and after the first minute, and each 15 secs further, > asks if you want to continue trying. Seems to work okay for me. Make sure that you have an entry for IMAP2 in the Winsock "services" files. I seem to recall adding a line like: imap2 143/tcp #Internet Mail Access Protocol v2 to my services file quite some time back. Cheers, Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar http://biocserver.bioc.cwru.edu/pp/aiyar/aiyar.html -- ...when fits of creativity run strong, more than one programmer or writer has been known to abandon the desktop for the more spacious floor. - Fred Brooks, Jr. -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 12:46:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26074; Sat, 8 Apr 95 12:46:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22061; Sat, 8 Apr 95 12:41:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22055; Sat, 8 Apr 95 12:41:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxgN5-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 12:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hbact118@huey.csun.edu (kelly macone) Subject: Please help with configuration Date: 8 Apr 1995 18:57:12 GMT Message-Id: <3m6ma8$pm9@dewey.csun.edu> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 14:59:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28643; Sat, 8 Apr 95 14:59:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18725; Sat, 8 Apr 95 14:52:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18719; Sat, 8 Apr 95 14:52:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxiPq-00038MC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 14:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jean Kent Subject: Thanks for the Crtl-C on MACs Fixes Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 06:53:51 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Our problem is solved. Thanks to all who helped. ****************************************************************************** Jean Kent, Librarian Phone: (206) 528-3835 North Seattle Community College FAX: (206) 527-3614 9600 College Way North Seattle, WA 98103 email: jkent@seaccd.sccd.ctc.edu http://www.sccd.ctc.edu/jkent ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 15:09:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28835; Sat, 8 Apr 95 15:09:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23819; Sat, 8 Apr 95 15:02:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23813; Sat, 8 Apr 95 15:02:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxiXt-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 14:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Uwe Richter Subject: Accessing MH folders with Pine remotely? Date: 6 Apr 1995 10:29:06 GMT Message-Id: <3m0fpi$pqp@fsuj01.rz.uni-jena.de> Hello How can Pine work with remote MH-Folders via IMAP in the same way as with MH? As MH saves messages as seperate files in folder directories Pine seems to be unable to deal with this structure because Pine expects folder files. I'm afraid thinking in the wrong direction! But, thanks for any hints. Uwe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 15:43:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29450; Sat, 8 Apr 95 15:43:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19219; Sat, 8 Apr 95 15:37:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19213; Sat, 8 Apr 95 15:37:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxj5d-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 15:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Shawn Slavin Subject: Problem reading included messages Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 12:31:03 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi. Has anyone experienced a problem like this and solved it: To begin with, most of the users in my department use elm (actually two different versions! 70.85 and 2.4.PL21), and elm (at least the old version) likes to add some keywords about MIME, even though MIME-support is disabled. What happens is that I often get messages which appear to have attachments, but don't. In other words, the message looks like your average message, but PINE gets fooled into thinking that the message is in MIME format. Commonly all I see is the sender's .signature. Now, I have sent myself mail with elm 2.4.PL21 with no problems, both fresh messages and replies. Recently, a friend sent a message, of which I could read his text, but not any of the lines of an included message starting with the usual ">"'s. I didn't realize that I hadn't read all of the message until I went to reply, and there was the first part I had never seen. However, I can always read these messages in elm, emacs rmail, and the crappy old UNIX mail. Arghh. Any advice. Sorry if my message was a little confusing. Thanks. Shawn Slavin Indiana University Astronomy Internet: sdslavin@Pegasus2.Astro.Indiana.Edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 16:13:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29996; Sat, 8 Apr 95 16:13:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24695; Sat, 8 Apr 95 16:09:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24689; Sat, 8 Apr 95 16:09:29 -0700 Received: from trex (trex.kwantlen.bc.ca) by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA13872; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 16:08:50 -0700 Received: by trex (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA12343; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 16:08:49 +0800 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 16:08:49 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dumaresq X-Sender: david@trex To: Ashok Aiyar Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problem running with SLIP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 823 On Sat, 8 Apr 1995, Ashok Aiyar wrote: > Seems to work okay for me. Make sure that you have an entry for > IMAP2 in the Winsock "services" files. I seem to recall adding a > line like: > > imap2 143/tcp #Internet Mail Access Protocol v2 > > to my services file quite some time back. > Thanks Ashok, that's got it. Although I'm adding imapd 143/tcp rather than imap2. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 17:09:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01269; Sat, 8 Apr 95 17:09:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25359; Sat, 8 Apr 95 17:02:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25353; Sat, 8 Apr 95 17:02:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxkQU-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 17:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ronald D. Kurr" Subject: HOW TO PROPERLY ATTACH BINARIES Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 09:50:11 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do I speicify the MIME type when attaching a binary? As a test, I sent an image to myself and all pine could do was run od against it. I have my .mailcap set up and it is supposed to run xv for images. Obviously, I'm encoding the fact that the .bmp file is an image. Any ideas? Thanks, Ron Ronald D. Kurr Voice: (603) 337-7363 Cabletron Systems, Inc. Fax : (603) 337-7370 PO Box 5005 kurr@ctron.com Rochester, NH 03868 "Opinions expressed are my wife's." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 20:54:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05192; Sat, 8 Apr 95 20:54:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22191; Sat, 8 Apr 95 20:43:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22185; Sat, 8 Apr 95 20:43:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxnte-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 20:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: knight@dartvax.Dartmouth.EDU (John Boswell) Subject: Pine keeps replacing tabs with =09- Help! Date: 7 Apr 1995 02:13:41 GMT Message-Id: <3m274l$h1@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Hi, I've recently installed pine (v3.90) on our SGI IndigoII. It seems to work ok, except whenever I "Read in" a file (with the ^R command), pine replaces any tabs with "=09" and LFs (I think) with =20. If the recipient uses pine to read the message, it's not a problem. But if you use "mail" to read the message, it has all the tabs, etc. replaced. The read-in file is fine, since it gets sent just fine if I use "mail" to send the file. Any hints would be *greatly* appreciated! I often read-in files in messages I send; I need them to be sent without modification. Note that I get the same problem wither I use vi, emacs, or pico to create the file that I subsequently read-in. Thanks a bunch, -John Boswell -- **************************************************************************** Dr. John Boswell knight@grafton.dartmouth.edu Dept. of Chemistry, Biochemistry and Molecular Biology Oregon Graduate Institute, Portland, OR 503-690-1086 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 21:08:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05458; Sat, 8 Apr 95 21:08:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28288; Sat, 8 Apr 95 20:58:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28282; Sat, 8 Apr 95 20:58:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxo4h-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 20:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bbosilje@nbrwh53.nt.com (Bob Bosiljevac) Subject: Window Sizing Pine 3.91 on HPUX Date: 6 Apr 1995 21:51:03 GMT Message-Id: <3m1no7$1fn@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> Is there a known problem with sizing of windows on HPUX for Pine 3.91? I'm not sure if it's my imagination or not but I could swear that I can resize the window once and Pine realizes it but when I do it again it does not pick it up. Say I'm not losing my mind... please! Also, while I have your attention, is there any way I can get pine to be more in tune with hpterm? It seems to have has a very poor rapport with it in terms of arrow keys and highlighting. Thank you, Bob Bosiljevac bbosilje@nt.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 21:29:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05855; Sat, 8 Apr 95 21:29:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22603; Sat, 8 Apr 95 21:23:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22597; Sat, 8 Apr 95 21:23:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxoV2-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 21:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ac200@cfn.cs.dal.ca (Robert E Adams) Subject: Re: Setting date/time Message-Id: References: Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 15:02:52 GMT Peter Schroeck (pschroec@rvcc.raritanval.edu) wrote: : April 2, 9:30 a.m. : Can anyone help me in setting the time and date on "pine"? Mine read Feb. : 1980 (see date of this message). : Thanks for any help. : Peter -- Your message reqds like this when I see it. ................................................. Sun, 02 Apr 1995 10:34:43 comp.mail.pine Lines 5 Setting date/time pschroec@rvcc.raritanval.edu Peter Schroeck at PSG April 2, 9:30 a.m. Can anyone help me in setting the time and date on "pine"? 1980 (see date of this message). Thanks for any help. Peter ................................................. %% Bob Adams ac200@cfn.cs.dal.ca %%%%% HRD %%%%%%%% PUB REL %%%%%% % Adams Assoc (902) 456-0761 % TRAINING DACUM % % adams@ra.isisnet.ca % EDITING HTML % % Inexpensive services % GRAPHICS GAME ANIMS ART % % provided over the internet % Space LEASING Real Est PROFORMAS % %%%%%%%%%%% http://www.cfn.cs.dal.ca/~ac200/adams.html %%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Visit my home page for CIAU Mens Basketball From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 22:02:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06428; Sat, 8 Apr 95 22:02:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28965; Sat, 8 Apr 95 21:53:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28959; Sat, 8 Apr 95 21:53:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxoyG-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 21:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bbosilje@nbrwh53.nt.com (Bob Bosiljevac) Subject: Re: How to get Receipt? Date: 7 Apr 1995 16:11:28 GMT Message-Id: <3m3o7g$il0@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> References: <1995Apr3.215823.21093@lafn.org> In case no one has responded by now, I find that using a header "Return-Receipt-To:" with my e-mail addresss does the trick. Be aware that you get a receipt when the mailer processes the mail and not when the mail is read. Bob Bosiljevac In article <1995Apr3.215823.21093@lafn.org>, Al Cohan wrote: >Hello. >I am trying to set up my custom headers in PINE 3.91 to provide a >facility to have a "return receipt" when the message is read, or received >at the far end. > >This is not for all messages, but for debugging a problem I am having >between two sites not receiving each other's mail. > >Any assistance would be appreciated. > >Thank You, > >Al Cohan > >-- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 22:02:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06454; Sat, 8 Apr 95 22:02:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22924; Sat, 8 Apr 95 21:53:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22918; Sat, 8 Apr 95 21:53:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxozX-00038MC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 21:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsf@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (Josef Fleischmann) Subject: convert pine folders to mh folders? Date: 7 Apr 1995 13:05:26 GMT Message-Id: <3m3dam$g1o@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> I'm planning to switch from pine to exmh. Is there a utility to convert pine folders to mh folders??? Thanks, Joe. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Josef Fleischmann Institute of __._. __.. O Electronic Design Automation ____ ._.. /\, Technical University of Munich -|~(*) 80290 Munich :::::::::. (*) voice: 49-89-2105-3692 :::::::::::............ fax: 49-89-2105-3696 jsf@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 23:22:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07852; Sat, 8 Apr 95 23:22:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23678; Sat, 8 Apr 95 23:10:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23672; Sat, 8 Apr 95 23:10:10 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27063; Sat, 8 Apr 95 23:10:02 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 23:09:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Sean Dougherty Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Global addressboks for Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Lew Newby Jr. (lnewby@unm.edu) wrote: > : How can I create a Global address book and a correct reference to it > : in the .pinerc? Also would this work in PC-Pine? On Wed, 5 Apr 1995, Sean Dougherty wrote: > AS FAR AS THE PC VERSION -- I thought I had that working once, but my > machine is the one that is experimented on with new software and now it > doesn't. As soon as I get my pc back up though, I'll try to drop you a line. If you are talking about sharing an addressbook between a Unix system and a PC (using some remote filesystem) this won't work with Pine3.91 (due to a bug), but it will be fixed for 3.92. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 00:46:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09346; Sun, 9 Apr 95 00:46:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01009; Sun, 9 Apr 95 00:39:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01003; Sun, 9 Apr 95 00:39:52 -0700 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA25947 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Sun, 9 Apr 1995 03:39:50 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA06374; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 03:40:41 -0400 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 03:40:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine crashes on long CC list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It came time for student government elections here this year, and one of the candidates got it into his head what a wonderful idea it would be to mail everyone with his campaign manifesto. Unfortunately all he did was put all the user names on the to line, so the first person who responded to it also chose to respond to all recipients which put that long list of names (over 200) on the CC line. Now any time someone who has that message in his inbox goes into Pine, pine will immediately abort and core dump. We're running 3.91a on AIX 3.2 RS6k if that helps. Obviously pine can't be expected to handle messages with unlimited lengths of Header fields, but it shouldn't core dump just by running pine. As it stands we had to go into each user's mail box using mailx and delete it in there which most users don't know how to do. I can send a sample of the message if it helps. Joshua Hosseinoff hosseino@yu1.yu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 01:03:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09774; Sun, 9 Apr 95 01:03:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01180; Sun, 9 Apr 95 00:56:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01174; Sun, 9 Apr 95 00:56:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxrdX-0003DBC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 00:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Ctrl C won't work on our MACs Date: 7 Apr 1995 03:09:43 GMT Message-Id: <3m2adn$bos@news.ysu.edu> References: Having made a post after 30+ hours of wakefulness about this thread, I feel obligated to chip in another 2c... In a previous article, brennan@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Joe Brennan) says: >In Mac NCSA telnet, pull down Session, Setup Keys, and blank out the >three boxes, especially the one that makes ^C be Interrupt Process >(referring to the Mac!). Save the settings. I can't figure out why >anyone would want the defaults; ^C is essential to unix systems. In the setup I was using, these keys were blank. That's what disturbed me, along with the fact that of the two sessions I had with identical settings, one worked well (the SunOS), while the other, um, did not. On a different Mac, running the same NCSA telnet, the host which did not work well before, seemed to be working, until I remembered I had opened an rlogin to the troublesome host. My actual telnet session was to a Dec Ultrix machine, which seemed to cooperate reasonably well with the Mac. However, a direct telnet to the BSD/386 machine is a disaster. I cannot use many of the control keys. I can't suspend and continue. I have to use ESC ESC ^ to mark text. (And I thought the Dec with no ESC key was a bit inconvenient for an Emacs junkie.) And I think that the ^O was lost -- I use Emacs too, and I was unable to open a new line. Right now I can't open a new line in Emacs, although I think I was able to do so with a direct telnet to this host (SunOS), which I am now reaching via telnet from the BSD/386 machine accessed via rlogin from Ultrix to which I have Mac NCSA telnetted. I need more OSes I can loop through to reach my destination... Obviously, Mac NCSA telnet works with some telnetd programs, and not well at all with others, and BSD/386 offered by my ISP is not one of them. (Maybe there's a replacement for that telnetd...) -- Barry Bouwsma, will crash computers for chocolate and dental care Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) LOAD "SENDMAIL",8,1 driving a 300 baud Trabant on the Datenautobahn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 06:23:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16389; Sun, 9 Apr 95 06:23:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27942; Sun, 9 Apr 95 06:17:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27936; Sun, 9 Apr 95 06:17:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxwmK-00038QC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 06:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsumler@bach.ucs.indiana.edu (jeff sumler) Subject: Pine 3.91 slow on opening INBOX ? Date: 8 Apr 1995 23:31:13 GMT Message-Id: <3m76c1$opv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Hi-- I recall seeing sporadic threads about this problem a few months ago, but unfortunately I didn't save any of the posts. We've recently upgraded to pine 3.91 (HPUX 10, Ultrix 4.4, OSF/1 2.1) and on all platforms it appears that the new version requires much more time to open a user's INBOX than did 3.89. Since this problem is occurring uniformly on all platforms, it seems safe to assume that the cause lies in pine and not in an underlying IO problem. I'm collecting profiling information from 3.91, but in the meantime was this ever resolved? That is, was it ever pinned down as a pine problem? Any info would be appreciated. thanks jeff sumler Systems Engineer, Indiana University jsumler@indiana.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 06:54:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16846; Sun, 9 Apr 95 06:54:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05566; Sun, 9 Apr 95 06:50:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05560; Sun, 9 Apr 95 06:50:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxxEQ-00038QC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 06:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Version 3.92 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 11:16:11 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: No, Pine 3.92 will not include filtering... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA finger for PGP key On Sat, 25 Mar 1995, Michael Pollak wrote: > Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 06:33:46 -0500 > From: Michael Pollak > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Version 3.92 > > > Will it have filtering capability? Should I stop trying to master this > procmail nonsense? > > __________________________________________________________________________ > Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 07:12:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17130; Sun, 9 Apr 95 07:12:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28381; Sun, 9 Apr 95 07:08:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28375; Sun, 9 Apr 95 07:08:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxxYv-00038TC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 07:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chpat@cais.com (Chris Patkowski) Subject: Re: Linux/Pine spell checking problem Date: 9 Apr 1995 00:00:39 GMT Message-Id: <3m7837$ej2@news.cais.com> References: <3lpo9k$cr9@news.cais.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 In article , gpl@gauss.eng.ohio-state.edu says... > > >Check out the pine FAQ on how to use Ispell. > >It basically suggests adding the following line to your .pinerc : >editor=/usr/local/bin/ispell #or your appropriate path. > >Then, to check the spelling, invoke the "Alt Edit" with ^_ > > > Hope that helps... > > Jerry > Thank you for your help. Spelling is working as a charm. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Christopher H. Patkowski chpat@cais.com +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 08:55:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18797; Sun, 9 Apr 95 08:55:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06938; Sun, 9 Apr 95 08:51:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06932; Sun, 9 Apr 95 08:51:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxzEk-00038QC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 08:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw (Brian Tao) Subject: Re: No-op dead stream when using alternate editor Date: 7 Apr 1995 13:57:26 GMT Message-Id: <3m3gc6$736@gate.sinica.edu.tw> References: <3lsbtd$ldf@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> In article <3lsbtd$ldf@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, Trey Harris wrote: > >Any chance the code can be modified so that, when an alternate editor is >spawned, the IMAP client will go into the background and continue to >send NOOPs at the appropriate times? Failing this, a simple "Re-Open Mailbox" (control-R) command would do in a pinch. Right now I have to close the current one, open another one (assuming I have another mailbox to open), then re-open the first one. -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 09:28:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19396; Sun, 9 Apr 95 09:28:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29627; Sun, 9 Apr 95 09:22:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29621; Sun, 9 Apr 95 09:22:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxzbL-00038QC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 09:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Gardiner Myers Subject: Re: No MIME Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 11:52:47 -0400 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: "Lee M. Latham" writes: > [...] and I don't reckon I can ask every user in Russia to > use a MIME unencoder to read my posts! ;) Why not? One is readily available. Mpack and munpack are utilities for encoding and decoding (respectively) binary files in MIME (Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions) format mail messages. For compatibility with older forms of transferring binary files, the munpack program can also decode messages in split-uuencoded format. The Macintosh version can also decode messages in split-BinHex format. In short, munpack is the MIME equivalent of uudecode/binhex. Versions are included for unix, pc, os2, mac, amiga and archimedes systems. The canonical FTP site for this software is ftp.andrew.cmu.edu:pub/mpack/ All official distributions of mpack 1.5 are PGP signed by John Gardiner Myers From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 09:32:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19508; Sun, 9 Apr 95 09:32:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07371; Sun, 9 Apr 95 09:27:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07365; Sun, 9 Apr 95 09:27:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxzkj-00038QC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 09:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: curious@ios.com (Curious) Subject: CAN I UNERASE A DELETED MESSAGE ? Date: 9 Apr 1995 14:19:46 GMT Message-Id: <3m8qe2$kum@ankh.iia.org> Hello, Could you tell me HOW to UNERASE a 'deleted message' from my PINE mailer ? Thanks! Curious From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 11:26:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21504; Sun, 9 Apr 95 11:26:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00829; Sun, 9 Apr 95 11:22:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00823; Sun, 9 Apr 95 11:22:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ry1S1-00038QC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 11:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shuford@scs.unr.edu (Brian Shuford) Subject: Need signature help? Message-Id: <3lhoes$omo@silver.scs.unr.edu> Date: 31 Mar 1995 20:25:00 GMT I am trying to find out how to make a nice signature file. Is this done by just using a editor(Pico) and painstaking making one or is thier a better way to make a nice one, like with a picture or image of something. I see alot of nice sig. with things i could never make. If so could someone please tell me how or is there a FAQ on this Thanks, Shuford@pogonip.scs.unr.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 12:28:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22619; Sun, 9 Apr 95 12:28:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09438; Sun, 9 Apr 95 12:24:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09432; Sun, 9 Apr 95 12:24:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ry2O4-00038QC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 12:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: pine , filter , faq Date: 25 Mar 1995 08:06:02 GMT Message-Id: <3l0ita$j8j@news1.halcyon.com> References: <3kqsmb$5q9@lacerta.unm.edu> <3ktfud$gnh@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> messina@engin.umich.edu (Matt Messina) writes: >Farid Hamjavar wrote: >>Is there any FAQ that explains all the "filtering" >>PINE has to offer or one can do with mailboxes? > >But see Nancy McGough's Filtering FAQ, posted to news.answers with > > Archive Name: mail/filtering-faq > >...meaning you can get it via anonymous FTP from > > rtfm.mit.edu:/pub/usenet-by-group/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq Also the Pine FAQ talks about strategies you can use in Pine to deal with incoming folders. Both the Pine FAQ and the Filtering Mail FAQ are accessible from: http://www.best.com/~ii/internet/ -- /\_/\ @..@ Vote for the humanities.misc /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) newsgroup! The CFV is at ( o.o ) > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 13:37:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24104; Sun, 9 Apr 95 13:37:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02176; Sun, 9 Apr 95 13:34:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02170; Sun, 9 Apr 95 13:34:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ry3ZM-00038LC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 13:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ronald D. Kurr" Subject: IRIX 5.2 PORT Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 13:06:50 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can anyone point me to an ftp/www site that has an SGI port? Either source code or binaries would be fine. Thanks, Ron Ronald D. Kurr Voice: (603) 337-7363 Cabletron Systems, Inc. Fax : (603) 337-7370 PO Box 5005 kurr@ctron.com Rochester, NH 03868 "Opinions expressed are my wife's." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 15:10:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25846; Sun, 9 Apr 95 15:10:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11438; Sun, 9 Apr 95 15:06:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11432; Sun, 9 Apr 95 15:05:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ry56b-00038LC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 15:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joseph Acac Subject: USING PICO TO CREATE .plan file? Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 19:05:23 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am having trouble creating a plan file that will display when somebody fingers my account...Can anyone assist me in how to use pico or anything else to display a plan file? How is it done...Your help is greatly appreciated... Joseph From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 18:23:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29789; Sun, 9 Apr 95 18:23:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05300; Sun, 9 Apr 95 18:20:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05294; Sun, 9 Apr 95 18:20:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ry81d-00038LC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 18:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stainless Steel Rat Subject: Re: mail filtering for Solaris 2.3 Date: 26 Mar 95 11:28:18 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: tsai@pwa.acusd.edu's message of Fri, 24 Mar 1995 16:35:12 GMT >>>>> "Allen" == Allen Tsai writes: Allen> Has anyone in this group configured and installed any public Allen> domain mail filtering capable of parsing regular expression Allen> on Solaris 2.3? I have no luck for procmail and would like to hear Allen> any suggestions and even better of successful stories. Thanks. Procmail works fine with Solaris 2.3 and GCC. Did you follow all the compilation and installation instructions? -- Rat | Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball. http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/ratinox | PGP Public Key: Ask for one today! | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 20:01:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01754; Sun, 9 Apr 95 20:01:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15120; Sun, 9 Apr 95 19:56:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15114; Sun, 9 Apr 95 19:56:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ry9dv-00038LC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 19:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: reccmo@unidhp1.uni-c.dk (Christian Mondrup) Subject: Re: HELP: User-id in Pine Date: 7 Apr 1995 12:37:14 GMT Message-Id: <3m3blq$n3a@news.uni-c.dk> References: <955604095620@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk> Nat Queen (N.M.Queen@birmingham.ac.uk) wrote: : ============================================================================== : I want to change my return e-mail address in the "From:" line that : is placed in outgoing messages by Pine 3.89 on a unix machine. : The problem is that I want to use my "standard" address known to : my university's central mail server (as it appears in the header of : this post), and not my address on that particular computer. When : people reply to this "standard" address, which is expected to remain : unchanged, I can have the mail forwarded to any computer(s) of my : choice, depending on circumstances. : Pine automatically inserts its own domain name and my user-id on : that computer into my e-mail address. I can successfully change the : domain of the address by setting the variable "user-domain" in my : personal configuration file. However, it appears to be impossible : to change the variable "user-id". According to the Pine Technical : Notes (version 3.91), this can only be done in PC-Pine. : How can I replace my default e-mail address in the "From:" line to : my preferred address? Any help will be greatly appreciated. : **************************************************************************** : * Dr. N.M. Queen * Phone: +44 121 414 6590 * : * School of Mathematics & Statistics * Fax: +44 121 414 3389 * : * University of Birmingham * E-mail: n.m.queen@birmingham.ac.uk * : * Birmingham B15 2TT, England * PGP public key available on request * : **************************************************************************** Edit the file pine/osdep/os-.h thus: /*---------------------------------------------------------------------- Define this if you want to allow the users to change their From header line when they send out mail. The users will still have to configure either default-composer-hdrs or custumized-hdrs to get at the From header, even if this is set. ----*/ #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM /* comment out to not allow changing From */ and then recompile Pine. Also described in technicla notes -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Christian Mondrup + + UNI-C Aarhus, Danish Computing Centre for Research and Education. + + Olof Palmes Alle 38, DK 8200 Aarhus N. + + + + Phone: +45 86 78 44 44 + + Telefax: +45 86 78 44 55 + + E-Mail: Christian.Mondrup@uni-c.dk + + + + Opinions expressed are mine and do not reflect those of my employer. + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 20:52:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02772; Sun, 9 Apr 95 20:52:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15863; Sun, 9 Apr 95 20:49:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15857; Sun, 9 Apr 95 20:49:32 -0700 Received: from [140.142.189.6] by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05854; Sun, 9 Apr 95 20:49:30 -0700 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 19:49:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: David Clark Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine news & .newsrc X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII David, Pine should create a .newsrc automatically when you first subscribe to a newsgroup. -teg On Wed, 5 Apr 1995, David Clark wrote: > I'm writing some documentation on using pine as a newsreader & would like > some help. For the new user (on my system at least) a .newsrc file is not > automatically created. If a user goes into pine for the first time and > wants to read the news he/she cannot until the .newsrc file has been > created in their UNIX directory. I've gotten around this in classes I've > taught by having them start up nn first. nn creates the .newsrc, then I > have them quit nn and start up pine to read the news. > > My question-Is there any way to create a .newsrc in a user's directory > solely from the pine interface? > > Thanks in advance > > ----------- > David Clark \/\/\/\/\/\ There are only two or three human stories, and > Boulder Valley Schools \ they go on repeating themselves as fiercely as > clarkd@bvsd.k12.co.us \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ as if they had never happened > http://bvsd.k12.co.us/~clarkd/home.htm \ before. > http://www.mcp.com/~dclark/student.html \ -Willa Cather- > ----------------------------------------- > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 21:04:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03011; Sun, 9 Apr 95 21:04:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06809; Sun, 9 Apr 95 20:51:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06803; Sun, 9 Apr 95 20:51:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryATt-00038MC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 20:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Filtering Mail FAQ Date: 9 Apr 1995 18:33:53 GMT Message-Id: Archive-name: mail/filtering-faq Posting-frequency: approximately monthly Last-modified: 17 November 1994 _____________________________________________________ _________| |_________ \ | | / \ | FILTERING MAIL FAQ | / \ | | / \ | | / / | Copyright (c) 1994 Nancy McGough | \ / | | \ / |_____________________________________________________| \ /____________) (___________\ TABLE OF CONTENTS 0.0 About this Article ... 0.1 Copyright Notice ... 0.2 Acknowledgements ... 0.3 Terminology and Notation ... 0.4 Getting the Latest Version of This Article ... 0.5 Reading the Hypertext Version of This Article ... 0.6 Reading the Plain Text Version of This Article 1.0 Naming Your Incoming Mail Folders 2.0 Procmail ... 2.1 Setting Up Procmail ... 2.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail ... 2.3 Explanation of Test Recipe ... 2.4 Troubleshooting: Alternate .forward Files for Procmail ... 2.5 Procmail References 3.0 Filter ... 3.1 Setting up Filter ... 3.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail ... 3.3 Filter References 4.0 Reading Incoming Mail Folders 5.0 Contributing to this FAQ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:00 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: 0.0 About this Article Q: How can I have my incoming mail messages automatically put into an appropriate folder? This is one of the most frequently asked questions about email. This article is the first release of an FAQ that addresses this question. This version gives basic instructions for how to set up either procmail or Elm's filter to filter incoming mailing list messages. Future versions of this FAQ will include instructions for doing other things like automatically replying to certain messages. If your system has both procmail and filter installed then you should use procmail which is *much* more robust and powerful than filter. This recommendation is almost universal; even the Elm and filter developers recommend procmail over filter. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:10 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 0.1 Copyright Notice Copyright (c) 1994 by Nancy McGough. No portion of this work may be sold or put to commercial use without express written consent of the author. This restriction covers publication in any form, or distribution by any method, which permits this work to be visually perceived, either directly or with the aid of any machine or device. Permission is granted to republish or redistribute this article in its entirety for noncommercial use if this copyright notice is not removed or altered. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:20 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 0.2 Acknowledgements Thanks to these people who sent suggestions: David L. Miller Cookie Monster Jim Showalter David W. Tamkin Rick Troxel Stephen R. van den Berg Syd Weinstein Special thanks to: Thomas A. Fine for setting up and maintaining the hypertext archive of FAQs. Congratulations to him for winning O'Reilly and Associates' "The Best of the Net" award! Please let me know if I've left you, or anyone else, out of this list. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:30 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 0.3 Terminology and Notation Term Meaning ==== ======= FTP File Transfer Protocol HTML HyperText Markup Language HTTP HyperText Transport Protocol mailer Mail user agent (MUA) such as Pine or Elm pico PIne COmposer - friendly editor that's part of the Pine package RFC Internet "Request For Comments" document URL Uniform Resource Locator (specified in RFC1630) ^x Press the Ctrl key and then, while holding down the Ctrl key, press the x key ~ Your home directory $HOME (see * below) * In this article I use ~ (tilde) to mean your home directory. Note that some shells, such as the Bourne shell (sh), do not understand the tilde notation so you will need to use $HOME instead. You can always get to your home directory by typing ``cd''. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:40 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 0.4 Getting the Latest Version of This Article If this article is over two months old then there is probably an updated version of it in all the usual archives. Please get the latest version from one of these places: World Wide Web (the nicest format for online reading!): http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html Anonymous FTP: ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq Email: Send mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu containing the following: send usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq UUCP: uunet!/archive/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:50 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 0.5 Reading the Hypertext Version of This Article The best way to read this FAQ (and most other FAQs too) is to view the hypertext version using a Web browser such as Lynx, Mosaic, Netscape, WinWeb, or Cello. This will allow you to easily jump: * between subjects in this article * to a Uniform Resource Locator (URL) * to an Internet Request For Comments document (RFC) * to some manual pages This, and all FAQs that are crossposted to news.answers, can be accessed through: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/top.html This particular FAQ is at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:60 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 0.6 Reading the Plain Text Version of This Article If you are reading the plain text version (i.e., not the hypertext version) of this FAQ it is in RFC1153 digest format which means each subject is formatted as a mini mail message with its own Date, From, and Subject (and sometimes Followup-To) headers. Some newsreaders and mailers make it really easy to jump to a subject in an article that is in digest format. Here are instruction for some newsreaders: * NN's default is to split a digest and present each digest item on the menu. If you have changed the default by putting ``set split off'' in your ~/.nn/init file then you can split an article that is in digest format by typing G% while viewing it. This will present each digest item on a submenu. You can then read, followup-to, save, print, etc. individual digest items. * In trn (and its relatives like rn and strn) you can type ^g (Ctrl key and g key pressed together) to skip to the next line that begins with "Subject: " * In emacs GNUS, C-c C-n will skip to the next digest article (C-C C-p will go back to the previous digest article). If your newsreader or mailer does not have a built-in command that allows you to easily read a digest you can pipe the article to ``formail -ds'' which will split the article into separate mail messages, and then you can use your mailer or newsreader (if it can read mail folders) to read the folder. For example, here's what you would do in Tin while viewing the article: Type... In order to... ------- -------------- | Pipe a Specify the article is to be piped formail -ds >> ~/mail/faq.split Split the digest into individual messages and put them in a file named ~/mail/faq.split. (Replace ~/mail with your folder directory.) pine -if faq.split Use Pine to read the newly created folder. For more information see the formail(1) man pages. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:01:00 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: 1.0 Naming Your Incoming Mail Folders For my incoming mail folders I use names that start with ``IN''. For example, I put mail sent to the procmail mailing list into a folder named IN.procmail. I do this so that when all my folders are listed alphabetically the incoming folders are together and near the top. They are near the top because Unix is case sensitive and upper case letters come before lower case letters in an ascii sort. Of course, you can use any names you like for your mail folders. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:02:00 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: 2.0 Procmail Procmail is a powerful mail processor that can be used to process your mail messages either as they arrive or after they are in a mail folder. This version of the FAQ describes the basics of setting up procmail to filter incoming mailing list messages. To find out how to process existing mail folders see the NOTES section of the procmail(1) man page. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:02:10 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 2.1 Setting Up Procmail 1] Find out if procmail is on your system and what the full path to it is. If you are using csh type: which procmail Or if you are using sh or ksh type: type procmail If neither ``which'' nor ``type'' are on your system try ``whereis'' and ``where''. If your system doesn't have procmail ask your system administrator to install it. If your sys admin isn't able to do this, use a different mail processor like deliver, mailagent, or filter (described in part 2 of this FAQ). 2a] Create ~/.procmailrc. (Note that throughout this article I use pico for editing files. Replace ``pico'' with your editor.) cd pico .procmailrc 2b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.procmailrc. Note that lines that begin with # are comments and are ignored by procmail. #Set on when debugging VERBOSE=off #Replace ``mail'' with your mail directory (Pine uses mail, Elm uses Mail) MAILDIR=$HOME/mail #Directory for storing procmail log and rc files PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.test INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.folders 3] Create the directory where you will store your procmail log and rc files (this is $PMDIR that you set above). cd mkdir .procmail 4a] Create an rc (run commands) file for testing: cd cd .procmail pico rc.test 4b] Enter the following in ~/.procmail/rc.test: :0: * ^Subject: .*test IN.testing Note that the first line contains a zero (0), not the letter "oh". For now, don't worry about the meaning of this recipe. It is explained in the subject "Explanation of Test Recipe" below. 5a] Create a ~/.forward file by typing the following. (Pico's -w flag tells pico not to auto wrap lines.) cd pico -w .forward 5b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.forward: "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/local/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #nancym" == IMPORTANT NOTES == * Make sure you include all the quotes, both double (") and single ('). * The vertical bar (|) is a pipe. * Replace /usr/local/bin with the correct path for procmail (see step 1). * Replace ``nancym'' with your userid. You need to put your userid in your .forward so that it will be different than any other .forward file on your system. * Do NOT use environment variables, like $HOME, in your .forward file. * Do NOT expect ~ to mean your home directory in the .forward file: If procmail resides below your home directory write out the *full* path. 5c] Note that on many systems you need to make your .forward world readable and your home directory world searchable in order for the mail transport agent to "see" it. To do this type: cd chmod 644 .forward chmod a+x . 6] Send yourself two test messages: one with ``test'' in the subject and one without ``test'' in the subject. 7a] Start your mailer (pine, elm, etc.) and check that the messages were delivered correctly. The one with ``test'' in the subject should be in the folder $MAILDIR/IN.testing and the one without ``test'' in the subject should be in your inbox. If these were delivered correctly go on to step 8. 7b] TROUBLESHOOTING * If the two messages were not delivered correctly look at your $LOGFILE (~/.procmail/log) to see if you can determine what the problem is. * Check these three files for typos: ~/.forward ~/.procmailrc ~/.procmail/rc.test * Check the file and directory permissions of your .forward (set in 5c above). Type... In order to... ------- -------------- cd Go to your home directory. ls -l .forward Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r-- ls -ld . Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each (i.e., drwx--x--x, drwxr-xr-x, drwxr-x--x, drwx--xr-x). * If none of these turn up the problem edit your ~/.procmailrc so that it contains: VERBOSE=on And repeat steps 6 and 7. If you are still having problems see the subject "Troubleshooting: Alternate .forward Files for Procmail" below. 8a] Once you have successfully tested procmail in steps 6 and 7, create rc.folders for filtering incoming messages into mail folders. cd cd .procmail pico rc.folders 8b] Enter a modified version of the following in ~/.procmail/rc.folders :0: * ^TOwww-talk IN.www-talk :0: * ^TOprocmail IN.procmail The first recipe filters the www-talk mailing list and the second recipe filters the procmail mailing lists The meaning of the first recipe is as follows: Notation Meaning ======== ======= :0 Begin a recipe : Use a lock file * Begin a condition ^TO Match ``To:'' ``Cc:'' or other synonyms for To at the beginning of a line, followed by any or no characters, followed by.... www-talk ``www-talk'' IN.www-talk If successful match, put in folder $MAILDIR/IN.www-talk Create a recipe for each of your mailing lists. Make sure that you use ``^TO'' with no space between the caret (^) and the word ``TO'', and that both letters are capitalized -- if you don't it won't work. Note that ^TO is not a normal regular expression. It is a special procmail expression that is designed to catch any destination specification. See the MISCELLANEOUS section of the procmailrc(5) man page for details. For examples, see procmailex(5) man page. 9] Repeat steps 6 and 7 to make sure that things are still working. 10] Comment out the rc.test line in you .procmailrc file so that it looks like this: VERBOSE=off MAILDIR=$HOME/mail PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log # INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.test INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.folders Note that it's useful to leave the rc.test line there for future testing. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:02:20 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 2.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail There is a useful script, which is part of the procmail package, for checking your procmail log file called mailstat. Check to see if it is on your system by typing either ``which mailstat'' or ``type mailstat''. If it's on your system type: mailstat $HOME/.procmail/log This displays a concise version of your log file and moves your log file to log.old. You may want to put the above line in your .login so that each time you log in you will see a listing of how many messages you've received since the last time you ran mailstat, and what folders these messages were delivered to. You can get a mailstat listing of log.old by using the -o flag: mailstat -o $HOME/.procmail/log If mailstat is not on your system ask your system administrator to install it. It is located with all the other procmail tools at: ftp://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:02:30 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 2.3 Explanation of Test Recipe The recipe we used for testing is: :0: * ^Subject: .*test IN.testing The meaning of this recipe is: Notation Meaning ======== ======= :0 Begin a recipe : Use a lock file * Begin a condition ^ Match the beginning of a line followed by.... Subject: ``Subject:'' followed by.... . a space followed by any character (.) followed by.... * 0 or more of preceding character (any character in this case) followed by.... test ``test'' IN.testing If successful match, put in folder $MAILDIR/IN.testing ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:02:40 GMT From: "Stephen R. van den Berg" Subject: ... 2.4 Troubleshooting: Alternate .forward Files for Procmail If the .forward template in 5b above doesn't work the following alternatives might be helpful: In a perfect world: "|exec /usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym" In an almost perfect world: "|exec /usr/local/bin/procmail USER=nancym" In another world: "|IFS=' ';exec /usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym" In a different world: "|IFS=' ';exec /usr/local/bin/procmail USER=nancym" In a smrsh world: "|/usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym" These formats can be tried in different combinations, the leading "| can be tried as |" instead, or vice versa. Some systems do not need a .forward file (i.e., having a .procmailrc file suffices if procmail already is the local delivery agent). ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:02:50 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 2.5 Procmail References Manuals: procmail(1) - autonomous mail processor procmailrc(5) - procmail rc file procmailex(5) - procmail rc file examples procmailsc(5) - procmail weighted scoring techique egrep(1) - search file for regular expression (procmail uses egrep-style regular exprssions along with some of its own expressions like ^TO) formail(1) - mail reformatter sendmail(8) - send mail over the internet Newsgroup: comp.mail.misc Mailing List: procmail@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subscribe to the procmail mailing list by sending mail: To: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: subscribe Procmail Archives: Get a list of files available at the procmail mail server by sending mail: To: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: archive ls Get Best of the Procmail mailing list by sending mail (you'll need gzip and a MIME-decoder to unpack it): To: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: archive get best_of_procmail_list* ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:03:00 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: 3.0 Filter Filter is part of the Elm package of tools. Note that you can use filter to filter your incoming mail even if you are not using Elm to read your mail. IMPORTANT NOTE ============== If your system has both procmail and filter installed then you should use procmail which is *much* more robust and powerful than filter. This recommendation is almost universal; even the developers of Elm and Filter recommend procmail over filter. IT IS POSSIBLE TO LOSE MAIL MESSAGES WHEN USING FILTER; this is rare but it has happened. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:03:10 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 3.1 Setting up Filter Followup-To: comp.mail.elm 1] Find out if filter is on your system and what the full path to it is. If you are using the C shell (csh) type: which filter Or, if you are using the Korn shell (ksh) or the Bourne shell (sh) type: type filter If neither ``which'' nor ``type'' are on your system try ``where'' and ``whereis''. If your system doesn't have filter ask your system administrator to install it; or even better ask her to install procmail. 2] Note the full path of your home directory by typing: cd pwd 3a] Create ~/.elm/filter-rules. (Note that throughout this article I use pico for editing files. Replace ``pico'' with your editor.) cd mkdir .elm cd .elm pico filter-rules 3b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.elm/filter-rules if (subject contains "test") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.testing" Replace /j/nancym with your home directory path (see step 2). Replace /Mail with the name of the directory where your mail folders are stored. Pine and Berkeley Mail use /mail (lower case m) and Elm uses /Mail (upper case M). 4] To see what the filter rule will do type the following at your Unix prompt: filter -r 5a] Create a ~/.forward file by typing the following. (Pico's -w flag tells pico not to auto wrap lines.) cd pico -w .forward 5b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.forward: "|/usr/local/bin/filter -o /j/nancym/.elm/filter-errors" == IMPORTANT NOTES == * Make sure you include the quotes ("). * The vertical bar (|) is a pipe. * Replace /usr/local/bin with the correct path for filter (see step 1). * Replace /j/nancym with your home directory (see step 2). * Do NOT expect environment variables, like $HOME, to work in your .forward file. * Do NOT expect ~ to mean your home directory in the .forward file. 5c] Note that on many systems you need to make your .forward is world readable and your home directory world searchable in order for the mail transport agent to "see" it. To do this type: cd chmod 644 .forward chmod a+x . 6] Send yourself two test messages: one with ``test'' in the subject and one without ``test'' in the subject. 7a] Start your mailer (pine, elm, etc.) and check that the messages were delivered correctly. The one with ``test'' in the subject should be in the folder IN.testing and the one without ``test'' in the subject should be in your inbox. If these were delivered correctly go on to step 8. 7b] TROUBLESHOOTING * If the two messages were not delivered correctly look at your ~/.elm/filter-errors to see if you can determine what the problem is. * Check these two files for typos: ~/.forward ~/.elm/filter-rules * Check the file and directory permissions of your .forward (set in 5c above). Type... In order to... ------- -------------- cd Go to your home directory. ls -l .forward Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r-- ls -ld . Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each (i.e., drwx--x--x, drwxr-xr-x, drwxr-x--x, drwx--xr-x). * If none of these turn up the problem edit your ~/.forward so that filter will be verbose with it's output (use the -vo flag). "|/usr/local/bin/filter -vo /j/nancym/.elm/filter-errors" And repeat steps 6 and 7. After you get filter to work you will probably want to change the ``-vo'' flag back to ``-o''. 8] After you have successfully tested filter in steps 6 and 7, edit ~/.elm/filter-rules so that it contains a modified version of the following: # if (subject contains "test") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.testing" if (to contains "www-talk") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.www-talk" if (to contains "hopos-l") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.hopos" Replace /j/nancym with your home directory path and /Mail with the name of your mail directory. Replace the mailing list string (e.g., "www-talk") and the name of the mail folder (e.g., IN.www-talk) with text for your mailing lists. Note that ``to contains...'' means either the To or Cc header contains... Rather than deleting the test line, it's useful to just turn it into a comment (by preceding it with #) so that you can easily use it for future testing. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:03:20 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 3.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail Followup-To: comp.mail.elm You can get a short summary of filter's activity by typing: filter -s For a longer summary type: filter -S Or you can look at the log file itself, ~/.elm/filterlog. You should regularly look at ~/.elm/filter-errors to make sure things are working. You can automatically check filter-errors each time you log in by putting the following in your .login: tail ~/.elm/filter-errors Also you probably want to regularly delete filterlog and filter-errors so they don't fill up your disk space. To get a summary of the filter log and clear it type: filter -cs ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:03:30 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 3.3 Filter References Followup-To: comp.mail.elm Web Page: http://www.myxa.com/elm.html FAQs: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/elm/top.html Manual: filter(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:04:00 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: 4.0 Reading Incoming Mail Folders To read an incoming mail folder use your mailer or newsreader (if it can read mail folders). For more information see documentation for your mailer or newsreader. Here are some pointers. PINE ==== FAQ: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/faq/ ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/faq Manual: pine(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.pine (linked to Pine mailing list) Mailing List: pine-info@cac.washington.edu (linked to Pine newsgroup) Subscribe to the pine-info mailing list by sending mail to: majordomo@cac.washington.edu With... subscribe pine-info in the body of the message. ELM === Web Page: http://www.myxa.com/elm.html FAQs: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/elm/top.html Manual: elm(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm Emacs Mail Mode =============== Newsgroups: gnus.emacs.help and comp.emacs http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/GNU-Emacs-FAQ/part5/faq.html MH == FAQ: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mh-faq/top.html Manual: mh(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.mh MAIL ==== Manual: mail(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.misc NN == FAQ: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/nn-faq/top.html Manual: nn(1) Newsgroup: news.software.nn (Does anyone know if nn uses lock files? Is there any problem using nn to read a mail folder that is receiving mail? Please let me know!) (Also, please let me know what other newsreaders can read mail folders?) ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:05:00 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: 5.0 Contributing to this FAQ If you have any corrections, suggestions, or new digest items to contribute to this FAQ please send them to me at nancym@ii.com. If you are reading this with a viewer that understands the following URL you can use it to send me mail: mailto:nancym@ii.com Between official releases of this FAQ the plain text (ascii) version of the most up to date version of it is at: ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/Internet/filtering_mail_faq End of Filtering Mail Digest **************************** -- /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ^ < Infinite Ink ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 21:31:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03704; Sun, 9 Apr 95 21:31:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16359; Sun, 9 Apr 95 21:26:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16353; Sun, 9 Apr 95 21:26:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryAzk-00038LC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 21:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: pine "user@domain" < FILE - doesn't work ? Date: 7 Apr 1995 07:50:38 -0500 Message-Id: <9504071258.AA29237@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> References: lailert@ucssun1.sdsu.edu (Supak Lailert) writes: |> >Input/output redirect won't work--clearly stated in PINE documentation... |> >It should, though. somebody else [reference lost] said |> >: The ability of a program to accept its data from STDIN being redirected |> >: to open file (by shell) is one of _very basic concepts of Unices ... There are interactive programs which do not follow that approach. See e.g. "telnet" or "tip". -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 22:40:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05033; Sun, 9 Apr 95 22:40:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07993; Sun, 9 Apr 95 22:37:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07987; Sun, 9 Apr 95 22:37:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryC5a-00038LC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 22:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jonc@pinnacle.co.nz (Jonathan Chen) Subject: Re: "signature-at-the-bottom" ??? Date: 10 Apr 1995 10:01:25 +1200 Message-Id: <3m9lfl$be2@kea.pinnacle.co.nz> References: <1995Apr8.200554.1@milo> In <1995Apr8.200554.1@milo> rrlepage@stthomas.edu writes: >Hi, > Can someone help this "newbie" enable the "signature-at-the-bottom" >feature for the 3.89v of Pine?? A detailed explaination of set commands >would be most helpful!!! Edit the .pinerc file in your home directory (eg "cd; pico .pinerc"), move down to where it says "feature-list=" at the beginning of the line and add "signature-at-bottom" to the end of line. Save. Quit. Done. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan Chen ------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 22:53:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05235; Sun, 9 Apr 95 22:53:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08102; Sun, 9 Apr 95 22:47:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08091; Sun, 9 Apr 95 22:47:43 -0700 Received: from trex (trex.kwantlen.bc.ca) by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA18833; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 22:46:55 -0700 Received: by trex (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA13648; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 22:46:53 +0800 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 22:46:52 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dumaresq X-Sender: david@trex To: Steve Hubert Cc: Sean Dougherty , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Global addressboks for Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 803 On Sat, 8 Apr 1995, Steve Hubert wrote: > If you are talking about sharing an addressbook between a Unix system and > a PC (using some remote filesystem) this won't work with Pine3.91 (due to > a bug), but it will be fixed for 3.92. > Any word on when 3.92 will be ready, also if it will be a while is there any reason to move from 3.90 (Solaris) ? Cheers! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 03:11:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10760; Mon, 10 Apr 95 03:11:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20654; Mon, 10 Apr 95 03:06:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20648; Mon, 10 Apr 95 03:06:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryGFE-00038LC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 02:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mkagan@nslsilus.org (Myles Kagan) Subject: PINE for MAC? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 95 15:04:43 GMT Is PINE or a program like PINE available for the MAC. I am looking for a telnet-able E-mail server software that works on a MAC. I'd prefer to run a server on the MAC platform, if at all possible. Please send me E-mail. Thank You. Myles Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13577; Mon, 10 Apr 95 04:48:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11915; Mon, 10 Apr 95 04:38:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11909; Mon, 10 Apr 95 04:38:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryHiL-00038LC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 04:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: farzy@farzy.via.ecp.fr (Farzad FARID) Subject: Bug? Removing Incoming folder *deletes* folder... Date: 28 Mar 1995 14:14:48 GMT Message-Id: <3l95ko$840@piston.ecp.fr> This is with Pine 3.91. I had an Incoming Folder that I wanted to remove from this list. So I selected Delete, but this did actually *physically* remove my folder! I think there is a bit of inconsistence in the interface: I can create an incoming folder with Pine, but if I want to remove it from the Incoming folder list *without* actually deleting it I have to edit manually .pinerc. Could this be changed in a future release? -- * Farzad FARID Ecole Centrale Paris * faridf6@cti.ecp.fr Save a life, kill an anti-abortionist From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 05:16:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14434; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:16:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22521; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:05:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22515; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:05:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryI9r-00038LC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Juan Antonio Granado Andrade Subject: Problem with Ctrl-X in DecTerm VT330 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:17:17 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a problem that is no reponse Ctrl-X when I'm running pine v 3.91 in my vt330. Could someone helpme, please? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 05:27:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14699; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:27:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22728; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:20:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22722; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:20:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryIPX-00038MC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Lee M. Latham" Subject: No MIME Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 03:48:19 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII could someone please tell me if there is a way to NOT mime-encode an attachment sent with PINE? I am trying to communicate using 8th bit ASCII in the Relcom (Russian) newsgroups, but they can't read my 8th bit attachements because they are MIME encoded, and apparently that is not standard there yet, and I don't reckon I can ask every user in Russia to use a MIME unencoder to read my posts! ;) HELP! thanks Lee From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 05:27:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14734; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:27:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12422; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:20:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12416; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:20:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryINk-00038LC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cccdavid@mark.ucdavis.edu (Dave Zavatson) Subject: Re: Running two pines Date: 7 Apr 1995 16:50:15 GMT Message-Id: <3m3qg7$qst@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: Dion Vansevenant (stu2@faxon.ca) wrote: : We are trying to set up Pine for some external users, and would like to : do the following: : 1) Use separate pine.conf and pine.conf.fixed files for the external : users and internal users. [snipsnipsnip] : I have managed to get 2 & 3 to work for internal user with command line : options, but getting 1 to work properly (the pine.conf.fixed is a must, : don't want them changing certain values) is a bugger. The only way I can think of it to use two different executables with different pine.conf values compiled. You could either give the users different default path when they login so they find the different versions of pine, or simply name the versions differently and tell them which one to use. This would be enforceable with group permissions if necessary. --Dave : Any help would be appreciated. Please direct answers to my email address, : not just the list as I am no longer on the list. TIA : Dion : *----------------------------------------------* : | Dion Vansevenant dion@faxon.ca email | : | Faxon Canada Ltd. (519) 472-1006 voice | : | London, ON Canada (519) 472-1072 fax | : *----------------------------------------------* -- ''' (o o) /----------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo------------------------------------\ | David Zavatson |Mein Schatz, es ist soweit. Unsere Liebe ist vorbei.| |dhzavatson@ucdavis.edu |Ich kann nicht von Dir gehen. Zwei Gefuehle bleiben | | UCD IT Systems Group | stehen: Liebe und Hass, sind sich doch so nah. -ECO| \-----------------------------------------------------------------------------/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 06:06:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15557; Mon, 10 Apr 95 06:06:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12781; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:58:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12775; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:58:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryIzD-00038LC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: david@monygmc.mony.com (David Kozinn) Subject: Re: how to read mime mail in pine Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 16:35:51 GMT References: <1995Mar16.020736.8731@uxmail.ust.hk> In article , David L Miller wrote: > >Pine handles MIME pretty much transparently. You don't need to configure >anything unless you want to set up viewers for special MIME types, etc. Can you give an example of how, for example, I'd add in a type for an Excel spreadsheet (file extension .XLS) so that if I asked to View that file it would pull up excel as the viewer? I understand the basics of the mailcap file, but I don't understand how to add a new mime type so that when the file is attached to the message, Pine knows to specify the type as (for example) "application/excel". Thanks.... -- David Kozinn dkozinn@csc.com / david@mony.com Computer Sciences Corporation Under contract to Mutual of New York Technology Managment Group +1-201-907-6990 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 06:31:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16141; Mon, 10 Apr 95 06:31:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13073; Mon, 10 Apr 95 06:20:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ctron.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13067; Mon, 10 Apr 95 06:20:14 -0700 Received: from express.ctron.com ([134.141.69.20]) by gatekeeper.ctron.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA00627; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 09:20:12 -0400 Received: from burst ([134.141.58.59]) by express.ctron.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA24738; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 09:15:53 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 09:15:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ronald D. Kurr" X-Sender: kurr@burst To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HOW TO PROPERLY ATTACH BINARIES In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 8 Apr 1995, Terry Gray wrote: > Ron, > Unfortunately you can't control the MIME type in current version, > but you will be able to in the next one via a "mimetypes" file. > > -teg > Thanks for the info. Do you know when the next version will be coming out? Thanks, Ron Ronald D. Kurr Voice: (603) 337-7363 Cabletron Systems, Inc. Fax : (603) 337-7370 PO Box 5005 kurr@ctron.com Rochester, NH 03868 "Opinions expressed are my wife's." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 06:46:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16427; Mon, 10 Apr 95 06:46:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13292; Mon, 10 Apr 95 06:38:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13286; Mon, 10 Apr 95 06:38:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryJee-00038LC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 06:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbabcock@community.net Subject: Re: offline mail composing Date: 5 Apr 1995 09:49:21 -0700 Message-Id: <3luhmh$5h4@odin.community.net> References: <3ldq4a$s8k@abac.au.ac.th> If you have a file management area, mine is part of Lynx, you can just up load it using that program and your standard page up to activate your communications sofeware uploading mode. If not you will have to learn Unix commands (like DOS). Beverly Cook (beverlyc@ksc.au.ac.th) wrote: : Hope this isn't too stupid, but how do I compose a message offline and : send it using Pine. I'm using a Mac, my host is Assumption University in : Thailand. I made a teachtext file but didn't know how to import it. It : kept looking in my home/directory (whatever that is). Apparently I need : to import the file into the home/directory but I don't know how. : Thanks in advance for any (simply worded) help. : Bev Cook From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 07:31:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17386; Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:31:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24359; Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:20:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24353; Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:20:25 -0700 Received: by ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-940815-1) id AA08908; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:20:22 EDT Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:20:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Schlitt Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Unsubscribe to all newsgroups In-Reply-To: <3l48kt$1g6@empire.texas.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This should probably be a configurable option if things are changed. For use at home for the convenience of others who read news there I don't want to see a list of the "new" newsgroups. But here at work where I am a news administrator it is satisfying to see the list of groups that I think that I have added and to have the opportunity to easily subscribe to those that I want to observe traffic volume and the like. /dan -- Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 On 26 Mar 1995, Al Castanoli wrote: > Mike Brudenell (pmb1@tmphost.york.ac.uk) wrote: > : [...] > : Some newsreaders automatically check for new newsgroups as they start > : up. Pine does not do that at present (it may one day; anyone care to > : comment?). > : [...] > > Since you asked, I think it's an awful idea.... > > -- Al Castanoli | afcasta@texas.net > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 07:46:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17799; Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:46:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14106; Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:40:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14100; Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:40:42 -0700 Received: from [140.142.189.6] by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12199; Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:40:34 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 06:40:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Ronald D. Kurr" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HOW TO PROPERLY ATTACH BINARIES X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII No, we don't have a date for the next version yet. -teg On Mon, 10 Apr 1995, Ronald D. Kurr wrote: > On Sat, 8 Apr 1995, Terry Gray wrote: > > > Ron, > > Unfortunately you can't control the MIME type in current version, > > but you will be able to in the next one via a "mimetypes" file. > > > > -teg > > > > Thanks for the info. Do you know when the next version will be coming out? > > Thanks, > > Ron > > Ronald D. Kurr Voice: (603) 337-7363 > Cabletron Systems, Inc. Fax : (603) 337-7370 > PO Box 5005 kurr@ctron.com > Rochester, NH 03868 > > "Opinions expressed are my wife's." > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 07:52:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17924; Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:52:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24747; Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:43:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24741; Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:43:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryKd3-00038LC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Daryl D. Rester" Subject: Pine under Unixware Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 09:00:23 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone have the Pine3.91 system working under Unixware 1.1? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ DARYL D. RESTER, SYSTEM PROGRAMMER | FAX (601)984-1724 UNIVERSITY OF MISSISSIPPI MEDICAL CENTER | OFFICE (601)984-1162 COMPUTER SERVICES DIVISION | MESSAGES (601)984-1140 2500 N. STATE STREET | JACKSON, MS 39216-4505 | INTERNET rester@fiona.umsmed.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 09:35:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22372; Mon, 10 Apr 95 09:35:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16176; Mon, 10 Apr 95 09:21:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16170; Mon, 10 Apr 95 09:21:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryM61-00038LC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 09:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scottr@plexus.com (Scott Reynolds) Subject: Re: Window Sizing Pine 3.91 on HPUX Date: 10 Apr 1995 10:43:58 -0500 Message-Id: <3mbjnu$6nc@cuckoo.pd.tgi.plexus.com> References: <3m1no7$1fn@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> In article <3m1no7$1fn@bcrkh13.bnr.ca>, bbosilje@nbrwh53.nt.com (Bob Bosiljevac) writes: > Is there a known problem with sizing of windows on HPUX for Pine 3.91? Actually, yes, I've known about it for some time. I have been neglectful and never posted my patch (40 lashes are probably due me). Try the patch I've appended and see if it helps (it ought to!) > Also, while I have your attention, is there any way I can get pine > to be more in tune with hpterm? It seems to have has a very > poor rapport with it in terms of arrow keys and highlighting. I can't help you on either of them, but I have to comment on the rather silly way that HP terminals (and hpterms) do their highlighting. The approach that HP took is rather non-standard: attribute characters actually take up space on the screen, even though they're invisible. :-( Our solution was to run pine from a shell script that invoked an xterm if it was run from an hpterm. *** signals.c-dist Mon Oct 10 19:27:47 1994 --- signals.c Tue Jan 3 16:54:45 1995 *************** *** 315,320 **** --- 315,323 ---- dprint(9,(debugfile, "SIGWINCH ready_for_winch: %d winch_occured:%d\n", ready_for_winch, winch_occured)); get_windsize(ps_global->ttyo); + #ifdef HPP + signal(SIGWINCH, winch_signal); + #endif if(ready_for_winch) longjmp(winch_state, 1); else -- Scott Reynolds Scott.Reynolds@plexus.com System Administrator http://www.plexus.com/~scottr/ Technology Group, Inc. Neenah, WI, USA 54957-0677 #include From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 09:56:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23244; Mon, 10 Apr 95 09:56:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27707; Mon, 10 Apr 95 09:51:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27701; Mon, 10 Apr 95 09:51:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryMcy-00038MC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 09:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: xterm compatibility instead of full GUI? Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 16:24:40 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3l70mi$br9@gate.sinica.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3l70mi$br9@gate.sinica.edu.tw> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- It'll be in the next release... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA finger for PGP key On 27 Mar 1995, Brian Tao wrote: > Date: 27 Mar 1995 18:38:10 GMT > From: Brian Tao > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: xterm compatibility instead of full GUI? > > It would probably be a lot easier to add xterm mouse capability > into the next version of Pine instead of hacking out a full GUI. I > think this would be a popular item among the growing number of people > who run FreeBSD or NetBSD or Linux at home and XFree86 as the > windowing system. Very changes would have to be made to the existing > interface and the mouse support would be completely transparent to > those using Pine on a text console or over a VT-100 dialup. Look at > strn, mc and utree as examples. > > How about it, Pine people? > -- > Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao > taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL3dXT9/IU4uTDdHNAQFPDwH9GRCX0dxAndnWNVNv+rOTrfqlCxre3lWi 8elitCG7sbhBHj58O5R31Z0lHBSsERZQceF/VnImvVhnHkvXuBrHqg== =IiDJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 10:29:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24777; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:29:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28456; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:22:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28450; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:22:12 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02176; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:21:36 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:21:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: David Dumaresq Cc: Sean Dougherty , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Global addressboks for Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 9 Apr 1995, David Dumaresq wrote: > On Sat, 8 Apr 1995, Steve Hubert wrote: > > > If you are talking about sharing an addressbook between a Unix system and > > a PC (using some remote filesystem) this won't work with Pine3.91 (due to > > a bug), but it will be fixed for 3.92. > > Any word on when 3.92 will be ready, also if it will be a while is there > any reason to move from 3.90 (Solaris) ? > > Cheers! No date has been set for 3.92 yet. 3.90 did have several bugs that were fixed in 3.91. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 10:53:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25666; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:53:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28854; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:37:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28843; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:37:24 -0700 Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V4.3-13 #2001) id <01HP65N5FUOS8WWA4N@INNOSOFT.COM>; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:31:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Portia Shao Subject: Re: Pico for VMS In-Reply-To: To: Gene Kleppinger Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > This was posted to pine-info back in October: > > > I am currently training people how to use Pine on VMS. Is there also a > stand-alone version of Pico available? EDT, EVE, etc. are quite painful! > > ---------------------------end copied message------------------------ > > I can't find an answer to Peter's question, and I'd very much like to > know!!! ok, I will post to pine-info my answer also, it was not available at the time that message was posted, but on Apr 1st (not a joke), I made an announcement on info-pmdf about the availablity of a standalone PICO, which I ported, but is NOT supported by Innosoft. (there is also a port of PICO from the VMS port done by Yehavi.) you can anonymous ftp to ftp.innosoft.com, and get the files pico.olb for people who don't have DEC C RTL (or pre VMS 6.0) pico_link.com for people who don't have DEC C RTL (or pre VMS 6.0) pico_vax.exe for people with DEC C RTL pico_alpha.exe for Alpha pico_readme.txt general info /portia portia@innosoft.com Innosoft International Inc. (818)919-3600 voice, (818)919-3614 fax 1050 East Garvey Ave South, West Covina, CA 91790 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 11:05:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26287; Mon, 10 Apr 95 11:05:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18305; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:59:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18299; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:59:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryNfy-00038MC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bob Brody Subject: documentation Date: 8 Apr 1995 11:01:38 GMT Message-Id: <3m5qei$5m2@news4.primenet.com> 1) Anyone know if there is a complete documentation file (aka user's manual) for Pine (Unix) and if so, its name and where I might be able to find it? I would prefer to study the program in total offline rather than pop up generalized help screens while online. 2) When I first initialized Pine there was a welcome message and such along with a question asking my if I wanted to receive a usage/tips file (or words to that effect). I said yes and shortly later received this file in Pine. The file was lost before I could get to it. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of this file? 3) Is there a configuration reason why I am automatically jetisoned from Pine and returned to a system prompt after sending an email? I can find no such configuration setting yet when I write an email and then send it, I'm thrown into a forced quit; i.e., I'm tossed out of Pine and back at the system prompt. I should think I would remain in Pine until I explicitly quit, no? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 11:27:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27310; Mon, 10 Apr 95 11:27:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18814; Mon, 10 Apr 95 11:18:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18808; Mon, 10 Apr 95 11:18:12 -0700 Received: (from rgaine@localhost) by pilot.njin.net (8.6.10+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq+grosshack/8.6.10) id OAA11090; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 14:18:08 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 14:18:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine user guide Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII At our cite, we would like to make pine the standard mailer. I would like to know if there is a brochure type user guide for pine avaliable. Does this exist? if so, where can I get it? Rick Gaine Systems Administrator rgaine@pilot.njin.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 11:46:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28377; Mon, 10 Apr 95 11:46:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00647; Mon, 10 Apr 95 11:36:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00641; Mon, 10 Apr 95 11:36:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryOEM-00038LC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 11:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bbosilje@nbrwh53.nt.com (Bob Bosiljevac) Subject: Re: Window Sizing Pine 3.91 on HPUX Date: 10 Apr 1995 16:57:43 GMT Message-Id: <3mbo27$la0@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> References: <3m1no7$1fn@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> <3mbjnu$6nc@cuckoo.pd.tgi.plexus.com> Perfect! This patch did the trick. Window sizing now works as expected. and Using xterms instead of hpterms is a workable solution and is, in fact, what I have been doing up to now. Thank you, Bob. >From my desk calendar for April 10, 1995: "One can never pay in gratitude; one can only pay 'in kind' somewhere else in life." -Anne Morrow Lindbergh In article <3mbjnu$6nc@cuckoo.pd.tgi.plexus.com>, Scott Reynolds wrote: > >In article <3m1no7$1fn@bcrkh13.bnr.ca>, > bbosilje@nbrwh53.nt.com (Bob Bosiljevac) writes: > >> Is there a known problem with sizing of windows on HPUX for Pine 3.91? > >Actually, yes, I've known about it for some time. I have been neglectful and >never posted my patch (40 lashes are probably due me). Try the patch I've >appended and see if it helps (it ought to!) > ....[stuff deleted about hpterms].... >*** signals.c-dist Mon Oct 10 19:27:47 1994 >--- signals.c Tue Jan 3 16:54:45 1995 >*************** >*** 315,320 **** >--- 315,323 ---- > dprint(9,(debugfile, "SIGWINCH ready_for_winch: %d winch_occured:%d\n", > ready_for_winch, winch_occured)); > get_windsize(ps_global->ttyo); >+ #ifdef HPP >+ signal(SIGWINCH, winch_signal); >+ #endif > if(ready_for_winch) > longjmp(winch_state, 1); > else >-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 12:53:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01680; Mon, 10 Apr 95 12:53:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20730; Mon, 10 Apr 95 12:43:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20724; Mon, 10 Apr 95 12:43:06 -0700 Received: from help-pc.utcc.toronto.edu ([128.100.102.189]) by bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca with SMTP id <795832>; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 15:42:32 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 15:42:46 -0400 From: Help Desk 486 Work Station Subject: Help in Windows Pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I was trying out the windows version of Pine. *NOT* too bad. *BUT*, the HELP menu could use a CLOSE feature, not just a MOVE. I was able to exit by pressing down Ctrl & Enter. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 13:14:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02877; Mon, 10 Apr 95 13:14:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21396; Mon, 10 Apr 95 13:05:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21390; Mon, 10 Apr 95 13:05:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryPfM-00038MC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 13:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bbosilje@nbrwh53.nt.com (Bob Bosiljevac) Subject: Re: addressbook update Date: 10 Apr 1995 13:40:02 GMT Message-Id: <3mbcfi$abm@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> References: <3maejd$2bfo@yuma.acns.colostate.edu> I don't know if this is what you are looking for, but in your automated update routine you could add the following: pine -create_lu global_addressbook fullname-with-lists-last This will regenerate the .lu file from the global_addressbook file. At my installation I run both elm and pine and I really hate having to maintain anything twice. So I have one file containing aliases (for elm) and a makefile that creates all of the other files that I need for all of the other mailers. Part of the make is the line that I've pasted above. This input is worth exactly what you paid for it! Later, Bob Bosiljevac bbosilje@nt.com In article <3maejd$2bfo@yuma.acns.colostate.edu>, Mike Maxwell wrote: >We would like to automate updating our global addressbook (it has 3500 >entries), so far we have successful updating the global addressbook file >but have not been able automate generating the addressbook.lu (index file) >that goes along with it. Is there a way to do this? > >After the global addresbook is updated we have to run pine as root to >update the global addressbook index (file is read-only to all other users), >we are looking for a way around doing this. Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 14:00:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06906; Mon, 10 Apr 95 14:00:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04298; Mon, 10 Apr 95 13:50:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04292; Mon, 10 Apr 95 13:50:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryQMe-00038LC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 13:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rogers@eagle.sangamon.edu (Bill Rogers) Subject: Pine won't DIE!!!????? Date: 10 Apr 1995 14:34:31 GMT Message-Id: <3mbfln$qll@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Pine seems to be missing the hangup signal from the parent shell process. I've got lots of users that will just hang up in the middle of a session, leaving pine in a tight loop with a ppid of 1. Sometimes, pine will be in the middle of creating tmp files and away it goes. I don't know the particulars but, there were 26K editor tmp files this morning from one user. I suspect pine. We're talking: HP-UX eagle A.09.04 D 9000/827 1770625161 64-user license and pine 3.91 Does anyone have a simple solution???? thanks, Bill -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> <> Bill Rogers, Assistant Director for Academic Computing Services <> <> Sangamon State University, HSB-115 <> <> Springfield, Il 62794-9243 fax:217-786-7188 <> <> Internet:rogers@eagle.sangamon.edu voice:217-786-7352(Mon.->Fri.) <> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 16:16:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21045; Mon, 10 Apr 95 16:16:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25470; Mon, 10 Apr 95 16:06:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25464; Mon, 10 Apr 95 16:05:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rySUn-00038LC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 16:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: DCIexpo1@aol.com (E-mail World & Web World) Subject: FREE INTERNET EXPO! 4/19-21 Santa Clara, CA Date: 10 Apr 95 16:13:22 EST Message-Id: <3mc3gl$55f@caesar.ultra.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Here's your invitation to the LARGEST and ONLY FREE event on the West Coast dedicated to the Internet, electronic messaging, and the World-Wide Web!!! 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For more information call DCI at (508) 470-3880 or visit our home page on the World-Wide Web: 4)URL http://www.DCIexpo.com/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 16:48:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22622; Mon, 10 Apr 95 16:48:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18977; Mon, 10 Apr 95 16:44:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18971; Mon, 10 Apr 95 16:44:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryT6C-00038LC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 16:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: IRIX 5.2 PORT Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 08:30:00 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Get ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z and build it using the "sgi" port... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA finger for PGP key On Mon, 27 Mar 1995, Ronald D. Kurr wrote: > Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 13:06:50 -0500 > From: Ronald D. Kurr > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: IRIX 5.2 PORT > > Can anyone point me to an ftp/www site that has an SGI port? Either source > code or binaries would be fine. > > Thanks, > > Ron > > Ronald D. Kurr Voice: (603) 337-7363 > Cabletron Systems, Inc. Fax : (603) 337-7370 > PO Box 5005 kurr@ctron.com > Rochester, NH 03868 > > "Opinions expressed are my wife's." > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 17:15:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24393; Mon, 10 Apr 95 17:15:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27087; Mon, 10 Apr 95 17:09:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27081; Mon, 10 Apr 95 17:09:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryTRt-00038OC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 17:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: Better spell checker? Date: 10 Apr 1995 17:31:07 -0500 Message-Id: <3mcbjb$iba@paducah.cs.utexas.edu> References: <3m4jhj$nkq@crl.crl.com> [ jeffj@crl.com (Jeff Jones) wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] -> While the spell checker for pine is useful in that it tells you that -> the word is misspelled, I need it to correct my poor spelling too. Is -> there any good spell checkers out there that will work with pine that will -> do this? Thanks for any and all help! Get GNU "ispell" version 3.1.18 and install it on your system or check to see if you already have one. Other versions will work too. Set your alternate editor to "ispell" with the "S" option in the Main Menu so it looks like the following: editor=/usr/local/bin/ispell Once you've set it up, you can load ispell with "Ctrl-_". Ispell is a powerful spell-checker. Good Luck. -- Ananda M. Kar |(H)458-9754 | URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/ananda/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 17:35:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29252; Mon, 10 Apr 95 17:35:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20086; Mon, 10 Apr 95 17:24:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20080; Mon, 10 Apr 95 17:24:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryTiZ-00038MC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 17:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsumler@bach.ucs.indiana.edu (jeff sumler) Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 slow on opening INBOX ? Date: 10 Apr 1995 18:12:55 GMT Message-Id: <3mbsf7$bnt@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> References: <3m76c1$opv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> In article , Matthew Black wrote: >In article <3m76c1$opv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> jsumler@bach.ucs.indiana.edu (jeff sumler) writes: >>Hi-- >I recall seeing sporadic threads about this problem a few months ago, >>but unfortunately I didn't save any of the posts. We've recently >>upgraded to pine 3.91 (HPUX 10, Ultrix 4.4, OSF/1 2.1) and on all >>platforms it appears that the new version requires much more time to >>open a user's INBOX than did 3.89. Since this problem is occurring > > >This problem occurs sporadically at our site. It only seems to happen when >our NNTP server goes/slows down. >--matt Several other people have sent me mail with similar stories. None of the hosts in question here have declared nntp servers in pine.conf, so the problem we're seeing is not related to delays in opening a connection to a nntp server. Any other suggestions would be welcome . . . . jeff sumler Systems Engineer, Indiana University jsumler@indiana.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 00:00:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08431; Tue, 11 Apr 95 00:00:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01239; Mon, 10 Apr 95 23:55:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01233; Mon, 10 Apr 95 23:55:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryZmz-00038WC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 23:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Uwe Richter Subject: Accessing new mail from MH folders? Date: 10 Apr 1995 22:23:07 GMT Message-Id: <3mcb4b$np0@fsuj01.rz.uni-jena.de> Hello, does anybody know how I can access new mails from the mail spool directory via the "#mh" switch as a remote MH folder. If I try "{imap-server}#mh/INBOX" only the existing mails (that were read previously) are seen, but no new mails. On the other side, if I set the incoming-folder to "{imap-server}INBOX" new mails are seen but an error is returned while saving read mails into a remote MH folder. A directory is created, but no mail file can be written. ---------------debugging-------------- .. ---- QUIT SCREEN ---- expunge and close mail stream "{paxp02.mipool.uni-jena.de}INBOX" q_status_message, Count 1, "Closing "INBOX"..." output_message(Closing "INBOX"...) STATUS cmd:120, disp:1, length:0, max:1, min0IMAP DEBUG: A00009 SEARCH SEEN UNDELETED IMAP DEBUG: * SEARCH 1 IMAP DEBUG: A00009 OK SEARCH completed IMAP DEBUG: A00010 COPY 1 #mh/read-messages IMAP DEBUG: * OK [TRYCREATE] Must create mailbox before copy IMAP mm_notify NIL : {paxp02.mipool.uni-jena.de}INBOX : [TRYCREATE] Must create mailbox before copy IMAP DEBUG: A00010 NO COPY failed: No such destination mailbox IMAP 0:19 4/11 mm_log ERROR: COPY failed: No such destination mailbox prev_col: 0, prev_end:3, top_column:24 spacing:22 0 (null) (null) 0 1 ^C Cancel 0 2 Y [Yes] 23 3 N No 23 4 (null) (null) 46 5 (null) (null) 46 6 (null) (null) 68 7 (null) (null) 68 8 (null) (null) 90 9 (null) (null) 90 11 (null) (null) 112 row: -2, real_row: 22, column: 0 Select readfds:1 timeval:0,0 Select on tty returned 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 121 y Want_to read: y (121) IMAP DEBUG: A00011 Create #mh/read-messages IMAP DEBUG: A00011 OK CREATE completed IMAP 0:19 4/11 mm_log babble: CREATE completed IMAP DEBUG: A00012 COPY 1 #mh/read-messages IMAP DEBUG: * OK [TRYCREATE] Must create mailbox before copy IMAP mm_notify NIL : {paxp02.mipool.uni-jena.de}INBOX : [TRYCREATE] Must create mailbox before copy IMAP DEBUG: A00012 NO COPY failed: No such destination mailbox IMAP 0:19 4/11 mm_log ERROR: COPY failed: No such destination mailbox q_status_message, Count 1, "Unable to save 1 read messages to read-messages" ---------------debugging-------------- Many thanks in advance. Uwe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 00:00:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08439; Tue, 11 Apr 95 00:00:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02430; Mon, 10 Apr 95 23:52:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02424; Mon, 10 Apr 95 23:52:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryZjS-00038TC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 23:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mmaxwell@vagus.vth.colostate.edu (Mike Maxwell) Subject: addressbook update Date: 10 Apr 1995 05:10:05 GMT Message-Id: <3maejd$2bfo@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> We would like to automate updating our global addressbook (it has 3500 entries), so far we have successful updating the global addressbook file but have not been able automate generating the addressbook.lu (index file) that goes along with it. Is there a way to do this? After the global addresbook is updated we have to run pine as root to update the global addressbook index (file is read-only to all other users), we are looking for a way around doing this. Thanks. -- ================================================================= Mike Maxwell wk. 970-491-0352 Programmer Analyst fx. 970-491-1275 Colorado State University VTH Computer Services (VTHCS) Ft.Collins, CO. 80523 mmaxwell@vagus.vth.colostate.edu ================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 02:54:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12778; Tue, 11 Apr 95 02:54:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04475; Tue, 11 Apr 95 02:40:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04469; Tue, 11 Apr 95 02:40:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rycL9-00038TC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 02:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: How to configure PINE to automatically send copies to an address? Date: 10 Apr 1995 07:08:27 GMT Message-Id: <3malhb$kf3@manuel.anu.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like to configure PINE so that when I send out a message, a copy is sent under CC to a designated alias. The alias has already been setup in the addressbook. Any suggestions Arvind.Kalia@anu.edu.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 04:59:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16320; Tue, 11 Apr 95 04:59:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05296; Tue, 11 Apr 95 04:35:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05276; Tue, 11 Apr 95 04:34:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rye8T-00038TC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 04:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: whitus@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov (Bobby R. Whitus) Subject: IMAP Client list needed Date: 6 Apr 1995 16:57:25 GMT Message-Id: <3m16hl$f2a@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> I would like to know what IMAP clients exist and what popular clients will be supporting IMAP in future releases. I am interested in commercial, free and shareware clients for all platforms. Bobby Whitus Oak Ridge National Lab whitusbr@ornl.gov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 05:10:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16634; Tue, 11 Apr 95 05:10:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06120; Tue, 11 Apr 95 04:55:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06114; Tue, 11 Apr 95 04:55:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryePC-00038TC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 04:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Al Cohan Subject: Re: How to get Receipt? In-Reply-To: <199504080757.AAA00800@usr3.primenet.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <199504080757.AAA00800@usr3.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 15:58:57 GMT On Sat, 8 Apr 1995, Bob Brody wrote: > In article <1995Apr3.215823.21093@lafn.org> you wrote: > >Hello. > >I am trying to set up my custom headers in PINE 3.91 to provide a > >facility to have a "return receipt" when the message is read, or received > >at the far end. > I asked the same question and received some replies respectively. If > you haven't let me know and I'll forward the info I received. It seems > to work but not all sites support this so in some I get back a return > receipt notification, in some I don't. I tested it out and it works > though I'm still waiting to see if it works when emailing someone at > Compuserve because mail has been down all day there, I think, so I > don't know if mine has yet to arrive. As well, I find the receipt is > sent when the mail arrives, not when the recipient reads it. Not a > particularly good implementation, if you ask me. > > Regards, > Bob Brody Bob, thank you for your response re: PINE. I did receive a couple of replies and they seemed to work: In the header put Read-Receipt-To: and I think Reply-Receipt-To: or Forward-Receipt-To: ...I forget which one but the person said to put both in the header. So, I put these in my Custom Header, incorrectly thinking that they would only be invoked with I did the ^R for the "Rich Header" at the first level of Compose.....I started getting receipts from my own domain as well as other!....Not necessarily all, as this is up to the MTA at the far end, but enough that I knew something was wrong. Now, apparently anything but in the "Custom Header's" applies to ALL mail even though you don't it in your composition header. I was trying to have a default header with To:, Cc;, Bcc:, Attachment: and Subject: Then under Rich Header. I wanted the full blown expansion is Receipts, Newsgroups, Expire, Reply to, Distribution and any other field that I may use. Some of these files like Receipt, would have my name@domain, others would be available for use. So, now I have a different set of problems, namely trying to get this selective. If I can't find a way to enhance only the Rich Header, then it appears I will have to start PINE (3.91) with an alternate .pinerc file. Thanx again, Al From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 05:14:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16696; Tue, 11 Apr 95 05:14:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05587; Tue, 11 Apr 95 04:55:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05581; Tue, 11 Apr 95 04:55:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryeRD-00038WC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 04:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry.Bouwsma@tuke.sk Subject: Re: Pine error message and: Trouble with Bcc and Addressbook Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 20:53:02 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3mbkn2$hf6@wariat.wariat.org> It looks like there's nothing like a CERT advisory to get System Administrators to upgrade their versions of sendmail. Unfortunately, not as many of them seem to follow up to bug-fix upgrades. This problem occurs when you are using Pine with BSD Sendmail v8.6.10, which was released to correct a security hole as mentioned in a CERT advisory. However, there are a couple bugs in this sendmail, which were corrected and new versions of sendmail were released soon after (v8.6.11 and 8.6.12). Chances are, while your site was quick to upgrade upon release of the CERT advisory, they have not bothered to upgrade to fix the minor bugs that were introduced. Ask them to get the latest release of BSD sendmail (v8.6.12) from the same site they got 8.6.10. If this does not fix the problem, then report this bug to comp.mail.sendmail. An an unrelated tangent, given that people seem to upgrade based on security advisories but don't bother to follow up by upgrading to bug-fix releases or added-feature releases, and given that BSD sendmail v8.7 will introduce 8BITMIME handling to permit guaranteed passing of 8 bit mail messages over ESMTP, it's my hope that there will be another security hole found shortly after a stable release of 8.7 which affects 8.6 versions. This way, sites which would not upgrade to 8.7 to support 8BITMIME mail would go ahead and upgrade to plug a hole, with the side benefit of adding 8BITMIME support. My feeling is that non-US sites would upgrade pretty quickly to support their needs for 8-bit data in mail, but it will take some crisis to give 8BITMIME the widespread use that it needs to be really useful. Pine3.92 will take advantage of ESMTP servers with support for 8BITMIME by sending unaltered 8-bit data to them, meaning it would be possible for a message to be sent from Pine to another site without being converted to MIME quoted-printable encoding. Barry Bouwsma On 8 Apr 1995, Tim Delaune wrote: > I've had difficulty sending bcc messages to members of a relatively large > distribution list (now 60 -- I was originally trying 240 > screen saying either "Memory #" or "Bus #". [...] Is this a pine > problem? A system problem? On 10 Apr 1995, Monee C. Kidd wrote: > I've been trying to send a rather large file to a rather long distribution > list and I keep getting different sh ##### : Bus Errors. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 05:38:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17305; Tue, 11 Apr 95 05:38:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06381; Tue, 11 Apr 95 05:20:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06372; Tue, 11 Apr 95 05:20:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryeor-00038TC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 05:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rrlepage@stthomas.edu Subject: Re: "signature-at-the-bottom" ??? Date: 8 Apr 95 20:05:54 +600 Message-Id: <1995Apr8.200554.1@milo> Hi, Can someone help this "newbie" enable the "signature-at-the-bottom" feature for the 3.89v of Pine?? A detailed explaination of set commands would be most helpful!!! Many thanks, Ric LePage rrlepage@stthomas.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 05:58:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17568; Tue, 11 Apr 95 05:58:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06054; Tue, 11 Apr 95 05:31:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05994; Tue, 11 Apr 95 05:28:21 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA25136; Tue, 11 Apr 95 14:24:34 +0200 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 14:24:34 +0200 (METDST) From: Vladimir Solnicky To: The Pine Discussion List Subject: WinSocks Pine Problem Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="82924112-1483920592-797603074=:22602" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --82924112-1483920592-797603074=:22602 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hallo!=20 I am trying to use pcpine for Winsocks uder MS Windows. I prepared cp_to_iso and iso_to_cp tables for ISO 8859-2 and IBM code page 852, but I have problem with some characters, for example `s' and `z' with caron (\v{s} and \v{z} in TeX notation, `=B9' and `=BE' in ISO 8869-2). It seems = to me the tables are correct and sending a message containing these two characters to a Unix machine and then bouncing it back to Winsock pine shows everything O. K. I don't know how MS Windows functions OEMtoANSI and ANSItoOEM work, so maybe there is a problem somewhere there.=20 If you have ANY sugestions, they are greatly welcomed.=20 Thanks V. S. P. S. I sends these two conversion files as attachments. | | Bc. 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Pine files and documentation are available via FTP or WWW: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine or http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine : BYE BYE again DearOldDad /~~~/~~~/~~~/\ /\/\ /\ / / / / \/\/ POCONO MTNS PA DearOldDad:The older I get, the smarter I used to be./ \/\jgvd@epix.net Jonathan:Kids are people too; Have guitar, will travel.\ \/\ \ /\ \ Thought for the day: / / / / / / \/ \ \/ \/\ None:My mind is temporarily out of order. /___/___/___/___/____\/____\_\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 08:19:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21304; Tue, 11 Apr 95 08:19:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08219; Tue, 11 Apr 95 08:04:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08213; Tue, 11 Apr 95 08:04:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryhRJ-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 08:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nancym@coho.halcyon.com (Nancy McGough) Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: 10 Apr 1995 07:08:00 GMT Message-Id: <3malgg$bjp@news1.halcyon.com> cancel in newsgroup comp.mail.pine -- /\_/\ @..@ /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) http://www.halcyon.com/nancym/ ( o.o ) > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 08:22:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21380; Tue, 11 Apr 95 08:22:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08533; Tue, 11 Apr 95 08:14:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08527; Tue, 11 Apr 95 08:14:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryha8-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 08:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pollarda@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Art Pollard) Subject: Pine and Compress Message-Id: Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 03:18:50 GMT I am new to this newsgroup -- so, don't flaim me if this question has been asked 10,000 times previously. ;) I would like Pine to compress my mail in each of my folders as it stores the mail messages and then decompress a mail message if I want to read it. Is this possible? A good chunk of disk space is taken up with mail in various folders that I want to keep. If there were some way to compress this mail without making it unreadable to Pine, that would be great! Thanks for any help you can provide, Art From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 10:18:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27247; Tue, 11 Apr 95 10:18:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10953; Tue, 11 Apr 95 10:09:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10947; Tue, 11 Apr 95 10:09:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryjMv-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 10:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: black@csulb.edu (Matthew Black) Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 slow on opening INBOX ? Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 08:19:42 Message-Id: References: <3m76c1$opv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> In article <3m76c1$opv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> jsumler@bach.ucs.indiana.edu (jeff sumler) writes: >Hi-- I recall seeing sporadic threads about this problem a few months ago, >but unfortunately I didn't save any of the posts. We've recently >upgraded to pine 3.91 (HPUX 10, Ultrix 4.4, OSF/1 2.1) and on all >platforms it appears that the new version requires much more time to >open a user's INBOX than did 3.89. Since this problem is occurring >uniformly on all platforms, it seems safe to assume that the cause lies >in pine and not in an underlying IO problem. I'm collecting profiling >information from 3.91, but in the meantime was this ever resolved? That >is, was it ever pinned down as a pine problem? Any info would be >appreciated. >thanks >jeff sumler This problem occurs sporadically at our site. It only seems to happen when our NNTP server goes/slows down. --matt ============================================================================== matthew black, systems analyst | The opinions expressed herein are mine and california state university | don't necessarily reflect those my employer. cecs department | long beach, ca 90840 | email: black@csulb.edu ===============================(c) 1994 by Matthew Black, all rights reserved= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 11:00:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28881; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:00:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12517; Tue, 11 Apr 95 10:54:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12505; Tue, 11 Apr 95 10:54:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryk39-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 10:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: USING PICO TO CREATE .plan file? Date: 11 Apr 1995 14:06:56 GMT Message-Id: <3me2e0$be7@grape.epix.net> References: Joseph Acac (ez054061@peseta.ucdavis.edu) wrote: : I am having trouble creating a plan file that will display when somebody : fingers my account...Can anyone assist me in how to use pico or anything : else to display a plan file? How is it done...Your help is greatly : appreciated... Just go into PICO, blank page, type whatever you want your plan to say, then save it as file name .plan You have to put the . in No spaces, no Caps You can also make a .project file the same way BYE From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 11:17:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29543; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:17:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12277; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:09:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12271; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:09:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rykLM-00038MC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Klunder Subject: safe pine Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 09:05:42 GMT Hello, I'd like to setup a postoffice in which my users get pine as their default shell. However, I want to disable shell escapes and printing. Is this possible with 3.91 or do I need to hack the code myself ? Thanks in advance, Hans From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 11:32:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00379; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:32:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13394; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:24:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13382; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:24:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rykW7-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andy Behrens Subject: Re: Multiple "@"'s in address won't mail correctly Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 13:21:37 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 4 Apr 1995, Jeff Nicolich wrote: > Can someone help me a problem I have sending mail to an MCI address via > PINE? > > The address is: > > @gatekeeper.mcimail.com:sn=name%g=first%o=cs_first_boston%dda > =id=csfbg+pnameb%csfbg@mcimail.com > (one line) The first part of this address ("@gatekeeper.mcimail.com:") indicates that the message should be routed via 'gatekeeper'. This is an obsolete way of specifying a mailing address. It is permitted by the standard, but it is rarely seen and its use is explicitly discouraged. If you leave off the routing prefix, you get sn=name%g=first%o=cs_first_boston%dda=id=csfbg+pnameb%csfbg@mcimail.com which, though ugly, should be accepted by Pine. Andy -- Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. (Anne Herbert) Andy Behrens P.O. Box 116, South Strafford, Vermont 05070 Burlington Coat Factory, Schoolhouse Lane, Etna, N.H. 03750 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 12:01:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01928; Tue, 11 Apr 95 12:01:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13372; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:54:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13366; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:54:46 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20384; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:54:13 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:54:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Bobby R. Whitus" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP Client list needed In-Reply-To: <3m16hl$f2a@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Bobby, See ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.software -teg On 6 Apr 1995, Bobby R. Whitus wrote: > I would like to know what IMAP clients exist and what popular clients will > be supporting IMAP in future releases. I am interested in commercial, free > and shareware clients for all platforms. > > Bobby Whitus > Oak Ridge National Lab > whitusbr@ornl.gov > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 12:05:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02067; Tue, 11 Apr 95 12:05:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13532; Tue, 11 Apr 95 12:00:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13526; Tue, 11 Apr 95 12:00:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryl6i-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: Pine and Compress Date: 11 Apr 1995 13:25:19 -0500 Message-Id: <3mehif$lmm@paducah.cs.utexas.edu> References: [ pollarda@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Art Pollard) wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] -> I would like Pine to compress my mail in each of my folders as it stores -> the mail messages and then decompress a mail message if I want to read it. -> -> Is this possible? A good chunk of disk space is taken up with mail in -> various folders that I want to keep. If there were some way to compress -> this mail without making it unreadable to Pine, that would be great! PINE can't do it but a shell sctipt can. Suppose all your folders are in "/usr/people/pollarda/mail" and the PINE binary is in "/usr/local/bin". Set the FDIR variable to where your actual folders are if the above is not correct. Create the following file and name it "Pine" do a "chmod +x Pine" and invoke it with "./Pine" ---------------cut here--------------- #!/bin/sh FDIR=/usr/people/pollarda/mail for i in $FDIR/* do if [ ! -d $i ]; then uncompress $i fi done /usr/local/bin/pine for i in $FDIR/* do if [ ! -d $i ]; then compress $i fi done ---------------cut here--------------- Ananda -- Ananda M. Kar |(H)458-9754 | URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/ananda/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 14:43:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09992; Tue, 11 Apr 95 14:43:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18349; Tue, 11 Apr 95 14:35:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18343; Tue, 11 Apr 95 14:35:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rynY4-00038OC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 14:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: documentation Date: 11 Apr 1995 14:17:43 GMT Message-Id: <3me327$csq@grape.epix.net> References: <3m5qei$5m2@news4.primenet.com> Bob Brody (brody@usr2.primenet.com) wrote: : 1) Anyone know if there is a complete documentation file (aka user's : manual) for Pine (Unix) and if so, its name and where I might be able : to find it? I would prefer to study the program in total offline : rather than pop up generalized help screens while online. it's available from: pine391-DocServer@docserver.cac.washington.edu : 2) When I first initialized Pine there was a welcome message and such : along with a question asking my if I wanted to receive a usage/tips : file (or words to that effect). I said yes and shortly later received : this file in Pine. The file was lost before I could get to it. Does : anyone know where I can get a copy of this file? See answer to question #1 : 3) Is there a configuration reason why I am automatically jetisoned : from Pine and returned to a system prompt after sending an email? I : can find no such configuration setting yet when I write an email and : then send it, I'm thrown into a forced quit; i.e., I'm tossed out of : Pine and back at the system prompt. I should think I would remain in : Pine until I explicitly quit, no? You should remain. Dunno why this is happening ... something in your config? If I can figure out why, I'll post again. BYE From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 16:17:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13928; Tue, 11 Apr 95 16:17:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20891; Tue, 11 Apr 95 16:12:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20885; Tue, 11 Apr 95 16:12:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryoy6-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 16:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phil@ERC.MsState.Edu (Phillip Moore) Subject: Re: Pine and Compress Date: 11 Apr 1995 22:21:28 GMT Message-Id: <3mevd8$n50@NNTP.MsState.Edu> References: <3mehif$lmm@paducah.cs.utexas.edu> Ananda M. Kar (ananda@cs.utexas.edu) wrote: : PINE can't do it but a shell sctipt can. : Suppose all your folders are in "/usr/people/pollarda/mail" and the : PINE binary is in "/usr/local/bin". Set the FDIR variable to where : your actual folders are if the above is not correct. : Create the following file and name it "Pine" do a "chmod +x Pine" and : invoke it with "./Pine" I recently made a post asking someting simmilar. I think a better solution would be to change the code to make pine to uncompress (gunzip) only the mail folder that you are accessing, and when you are done would gzip it back up in the background when your done with it. Would be transparent to the user except for a minor delay when opening a mail folder. If I had some extra time I'd do it, but was hoping someone out there had already done it. -- Hollernet: Phillip Moore PhoneNet: home : 601.324.0531 WorkNet : NSF, Engineering office: 601.325.4023 (voice mail) Research Center FaxNet : 601.325.7692 Systems Administration WWWnet: http://www.erc.msstate.edu/~phil/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 18:31:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18935; Tue, 11 Apr 95 18:31:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21612; Tue, 11 Apr 95 18:23:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.sasquatch.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21606; Tue, 11 Apr 95 18:23:47 -0700 Received: from ns.sasquatch.com (ns.sasquatch.com [165.227.66.1]) by ns.sasquatch.com (8.6.11/8.6.11.sasquatch) with SMTP id SAA28464; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 18:23:35 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 18:23:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "juanitaf@sasquatch.com" To: Phillip Moore Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and Compress In-Reply-To: <3mevd8$n50@NNTP.MsState.Edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If you'll write the code, I'll buy it for $5. If enough of us would, would it be worth your time? There are a lot of Pine users. Juanita On 11 Apr 1995, Phillip Moore wrote: > Ananda M. Kar (ananda@cs.utexas.edu) wrote: > : PINE can't do it but a shell sctipt can. > > : Suppose all your folders are in "/usr/people/pollarda/mail" and the > : PINE binary is in "/usr/local/bin". Set the FDIR variable to where > : your actual folders are if the above is not correct. > > : Create the following file and name it "Pine" do a "chmod +x Pine" and > : invoke it with "./Pine" > > I recently made a post asking someting simmilar. I think a better solution > would be to change the code to make pine to uncompress (gunzip) only > the mail folder that you are accessing, and when you are done would > gzip it back up in the background when your done with it. Would be > transparent to the user except for a minor delay when opening a mail > folder. If I had some extra time I'd do it, but was hoping someone > out there had already done it. > > -- > Hollernet: Phillip Moore PhoneNet: home : 601.324.0531 > WorkNet : NSF, Engineering office: 601.325.4023 (voice mail) > Research Center FaxNet : 601.325.7692 > Systems Administration WWWnet: http://www.erc.msstate.edu/~phil/ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 19:41:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20465; Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:41:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24722; Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:36:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24716; Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:36:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rysCS-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: levin@world.std.com (levin magruder) Subject: Save messages w/o attachment in fcc: Message-Id: Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 15:25:42 GMT When sending a message with an attachment, is it possible to have just the message, and not the attachment, saved in the fcc? levin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 19:44:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20602; Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:44:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22521; Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:41:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22515; Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:41:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rysIu-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rlvictor@ciagri.usp.br (Reynaldo L. Victoria) Subject: Automatic Reply Date: 9 Apr 1995 14:21:52 GMT Message-Id: <3m8qi0$6u4@bee.uspnet.usp.br> I need to know how can I make pine reply my mail automatic. Could anyone HELP ME !!!!! Daniel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 19:56:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20913; Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:56:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24971; Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:51:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24962; Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:51:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rysPn-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: Pine crashes on long CC list Date: 11 Apr 1995 13:06:26 -0500 Message-Id: <3megf2$llo@paducah.cs.utexas.edu> References: [ hosseino@yu1.yu.edu (Joshua Hosseinoff) wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] -> names (over 200) on the CC line. Now any time someone who has that -> message in his inbox goes into Pine, pine will immediately abort and core -> dump. We're running 3.91a on AIX 3.2 RS6k if that helps. The problem is because the system is running BSD Sendmail v8.6.10. You can ask your sys-admins to upgrade to 8.6.11 oe 8.6.12, I believe this problem will be solved once it's done. Meanwhile configure Pine to use an SMTP-server, rather than passing your mail to sendmail directly. This bug was generated when sendmail was patched to plug a security hole. Here's how you can configure PINE 1. Goto the main menu by pressing "M". 2. Choose "S" for SetUp. 3. Type "C" for "Config". 4. Bring down the highlighting bar to the "SMTP server" line and add the following entry so the line looks like this: smtp-server = mail.yu1.yu.edu Make sure the name of your SMTP server is correct, the above is only a guess. This will hopefully solve your problem. Ananda -- Ananda M. Kar |(H)458-9754 | URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/ananda/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 20:43:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21991; Tue, 11 Apr 95 20:43:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23280; Tue, 11 Apr 95 20:36:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23274; Tue, 11 Apr 95 20:36:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rytAt-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 20:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matthew Majka Subject: RE: news and .newsrc Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 18:18:38 GMT I've had the same problem you speak of when using pine as a newsreader. My solution was to run tin first. Have you tried adding (subscribing) to a newsgroup without a .newsrc file in $HOME? Maybe that will create a .newsrc file. Good luck From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 21:37:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23321; Tue, 11 Apr 95 21:37:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26452; Tue, 11 Apr 95 21:31:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26446; Tue, 11 Apr 95 21:31:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryu0z-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 21:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kstewart@sol.ashland.edu (Phrakr Trakr) Subject: Pine and mail filtering! Date: 12 Apr 1995 01:57:36 GMT Message-Id: <3mfc2g$min@pangea.ohionet.org> I was wondering. Is it possible to filter mail from your INBOX to different "inboxes"? For instance. I receive alot of mail from the localhost "ashland.edu" can I filter that mail into a "ashland" box? Could I filter @aol" mail into another box? If so please tell me how, I think it would help me clean up the clutter! Thanx! -- ~\\|//~ -(o o)- +------------------+-------oOOOo--(_)--oOOOo-------+---------------------+ | K. Scott Stewart | Email: kstewart@ashland.edu | Ashland University | | aka. STEW | scotstew@tso.cin.ix.net | AU Box #1622 | | aka. Netiquette | | Ashland, OH 44805 | +------------------+-------------------------------+---------------------+ \,`/ / | URL: http://www.ashland.edu/~kstewart | _).. `_ +-----------------------------------------------------+ ( __ -\ | I have fallen in love with PERL:I don't mean Minnie | '`. +-----------------------------------------------------+ ( \>_-_, _||_ ~-/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 22:37:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24975; Tue, 11 Apr 95 22:37:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24829; Tue, 11 Apr 95 22:31:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24822; Tue, 11 Apr 95 22:31:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryuwP-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 22:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 slow on opening INBOX ? Date: 12 Apr 95 02:12:09 GMT Message-Id: References: <3m76c1$opv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <3mbsf7$bnt@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Mark Crispin writes: >On 10 Apr 1995, jeff sumler wrote: >> None of the >> hosts in question here have declared nntp servers in pine.conf, so the >> problem we're seeing is not related to delays in opening a connection to >> a nntp server. Any other suggestions would be welcome . . . . >There is a known problem in Pine 3.91 relating to slow opening of mbox >format mail files. The algorithm itself is OK, but certain C compilers >are known to generate code which runs very slowly. So I changed the >algorithm to an equivalent one which doesn't cause the problem. >This problem is fixed in the latest IMAP toolkit, > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.tar.Z >Remove the imap/ directory tree in your Pine sources, and replace it with >this new toolkit, then rebuild Pine. This is unclear. Does this account for slowness in non-IMAP situations also? Are there updated binaries available, since a lot of people just get binaries from your ftp site. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 22:45:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25231; Tue, 11 Apr 95 22:45:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27646; Tue, 11 Apr 95 22:41:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27640; Tue, 11 Apr 95 22:41:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryv7Q-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 22:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Shawn Slavin Subject: Slow open on INBOX... Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 12:32:09 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi. Somebody from UCS at Indiana University posted a message about a slow open of the INBOX with Pine 3.91, on all the platforms he had compiled it on. I have noticed this, too, both on our dept. HP735's, Suns, and my FreeBSD PC at home. I think that the problem has to do with the NNTP software. Try setting the NNTP-server to and running pine again. I believe that you'll notice that the lag is gone. I must admit that I found this by mistake, but I'm pretty sure that this is it. Hope this helps. Shawn Slavin Indiana University Astronomy Internet: sdslavin@Pegasus2.Astro.Indiana.Edu slavin@Cygnus.Bloomington.IN.US From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 00:18:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27523; Wed, 12 Apr 95 00:18:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28854; Wed, 12 Apr 95 00:05:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [137.98.200.54] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28848; Wed, 12 Apr 95 00:05:38 -0700 Received: (from stares@localhost) by lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.dhl.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA18799; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 08:05:15 +0100 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 08:05:13 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM X-Sender: stares@lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.dhl.com To: Phrakr Trakr Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and mail filtering! In-Reply-To: <3mfc2g$min@pangea.ohionet.org> Message-Id: X-Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are my own and not my employers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Apr 1995, Phrakr Trakr wrote: Pine is unable to do this but a filtering program such as procmail can do it. Procmail can be found at: ftp://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz For more information on filtering please see Nancy McGough's filtering FAQ which is posted/mailed to this group/list on a regular basis. Stuart > I was wondering. Is it possible to filter mail from your INBOX to > different "inboxes"? For instance. I receive alot of mail from the > localhost "ashland.edu" can I filter that mail into a "ashland" box? > Could I filter @aol" mail into another box? If so please tell me how, I > think it would help me clean up the clutter! > > Thanx! > > -- > ~\\|//~ > -(o o)- > +------------------+-------oOOOo--(_)--oOOOo-------+---------------------+ > | K. Scott Stewart | Email: kstewart@ashland.edu | Ashland University | > | aka. STEW | scotstew@tso.cin.ix.net | AU Box #1622 | > | aka. Netiquette | | Ashland, OH 44805 | > +------------------+-------------------------------+---------------------+ > \,`/ / | URL: http://www.ashland.edu/~kstewart | > _).. `_ +-----------------------------------------------------+ > ( __ -\ | I have fallen in love with PERL:I don't mean Minnie | > '`. +-----------------------------------------------------+ > ( \>_-_, > _||_ ~-/ > ---- Stuart Tares Email : Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM Senior Network Analyst Voice : +44 181 742 4060 DHL Systems Ltd, CSG Europe & Africa Region From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 01:31:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29986; Wed, 12 Apr 95 01:31:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27093; Wed, 12 Apr 95 01:17:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27087; Wed, 12 Apr 95 01:17:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryxHq-0003AEC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 00:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Special Admin login Subject: Downloading News... Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 14:28:17 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am currently using PINE to read news from an NNTP server over a dial up slip connection. It's not too slow but I would like to download the news items and read them offline. What I have is a slip connection and full terminal access to an internet host. (In other words I can access just about anything). Can anyone help me? Please e-mail a reply to cwelect@ozemail.com.au. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 02:01:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00815; Wed, 12 Apr 95 02:01:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27544; Wed, 12 Apr 95 01:50:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27538; Wed, 12 Apr 95 01:49:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryxwo-00038WC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 01:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: long "To" fields from distribution lists? Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 01:10:32 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 11 Apr 1995, Bob Manson wrote: > Sorry if I missed it in the manual. People have been complaining about > long "To" lists in their messages. Often, a two or three line message > sent to a distribution list is preceded by a 25 or 30 line header. Is > there any way of telling pine to send stuff out to a distribution list > one name at a time? There is a really easy way. Instead of typing in the 25-30 names on the "To:" line, enter them on the "Bcc:" line. Everyone will get the mail, but they wont see any names in the header (including their own name). This also prevents people who reply to you from accidentally replying back to everyone. The "Bcc:" line is available as part of the Rich Header, which comes up in pine if you hit ^R when the cursor is in the header of the mail that you intend to send. If you absolutely want something to appear in the "To:" line, type in something like this: To: Various_People Bcc: (25-30 adddresses here. No parentheses.) That way, a copy will go to you in addition to everyone else, and something will appear in the "To:" line which will seem reasonable to the uninformed. The informed will no doubt figure out what you did and not worry about it. Ian Ollmann An alternate way is to send the mail to a dummy account with a .forward with all 25-30 names listed one per line in it, or investigate one of the many varieties of mail servers for creation of a mailing list. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 02:01:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00838; Wed, 12 Apr 95 02:01:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00564; Wed, 12 Apr 95 01:44:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00558; Wed, 12 Apr 95 01:44:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryxmf-00038TC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 01:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Gardiner Myers Subject: Re: Stripped addresses and IMAP clients Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 15:15:31 -0400 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: Barry.Bouwsma@tuke.sk writes: > But then, this is not too much different from how the mail would appear > were it to be sent by Unix mail, such as... > % uuencode core My_last_Unix_act.jpg | mail -s "Oh yeah? Up yours" root > ...since most rewriting rules do not add hostname for local delivery. On my systems, I always configure sendmail with FEATURE(always_add_domain) turned on. I suppose I should lobby to make it the default. A message which does not travel across the network does not necessarily have to conform to any network standards, such as the RFC 822 message format. In the case of many traditional unix mail systems, messages which remain local to the host contain address information in a form which does not conform to 822. This is not as serious a problem as taking messages that arrived from the network and changing them such that they no longer conform to 822, which a previous message from you indicated that zmailer did. > My question now is: should the IMAP client be saving the message with > the qualified address, so that information does not get lost? The IMAP server should not be modifying the content of the messages it hands out. In this situation, it has been given a message with addresses which do not conform to 822. It can interpret them the best it can, for purposes of computing the IMAP4 ENVELOPE data item, but it should not make a bad situation worse by trying to rewrite the headers. > And would > it be a good idea for the various sendmail rewriting rules to provide the > full address as a default, even for messages delivered locally, in case > those messages are accessed remotely and transferred to another machine? Yes, it would be a very good idea. In sendmail v8, you can do this by putting FEATURE(always_add_domain) in the mc file you use to generate the cf file. As you seem to have found out, in today's environments, "local" information tends not to stay local. Addresses should be sent in fully-qualified network-standard form. -- _.John G. Myers Internet: jgm+@CMU.EDU LoseNet: ...!seismo!ihnp4!wiscvm.wisc.edu!give!up From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 08:09:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10692; Wed, 12 Apr 95 08:09:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02285; Wed, 12 Apr 95 07:56:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02279; Wed, 12 Apr 95 07:56:29 -0700 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA10089 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:56:26 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA22905; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:57:14 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:57:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Suggestion regarding ;aad Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Perhaps it would be in order for the next version of pine to have a configurable option to allow ;aadx (delete and expunge all messages) when reading newsgroups, but not when reading your INBOX, or at least to double query you on your inbox. I accidentally deleted my whole inbox a couple of weeks ago with over 300 messages in it at the time. Fortunately I knew what most of the important pending material was at the time, but the reason it happened was because I was just reading newsgroups before and when it brought me back to INBOX after the last newsgroup out of habit I just hit ;aadx and voila it was all gone. Just a suggestion. Joshua Hosseinoff hosseino@yu1.yu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 08:16:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10947; Wed, 12 Apr 95 08:16:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05864; Wed, 12 Apr 95 07:42:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05858; Wed, 12 Apr 95 07:42:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rz3Ud-00038OC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 07:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: How to configure PINE to automatically send copies to an address? Message-Id: <1737C9E56S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <3malhb$kf3@manuel.anu.edu.au> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:15:32 GMT In article <3malhb$kf3@manuel.anu.edu.au> writes: >I would like to configure PINE so that when I send out a message, a copy >is sent under CC to a designated alias. The alias has already been setup >in the addressbook. Any suggestions You want this to be permanent? I use, under Customized headers, a Bcc: to the designated address. Works fine for me. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 08:45:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12317; Wed, 12 Apr 95 08:45:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02888; Wed, 12 Apr 95 08:29:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.bridgeway.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02880; Wed, 12 Apr 95 08:29:19 -0700 Received: by server.bridgeway.com id <207555>; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 08:31:30 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 08:31:23 -0700 From: Andrew Le To: Joshua Hosseinoff Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Suggestion regarding ;aad In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To all users: Hello, I'd like to know how to get a list of all known mailing lists so I can get on, just like this pine mailing list... If you know of any way to get one and how to get on, please Email me. ================================================================== Andrew Le ================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 09:49:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16397; Wed, 12 Apr 95 09:49:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04305; Wed, 12 Apr 95 09:26:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04299; Wed, 12 Apr 95 09:26:07 -0700 Received: from trex (trex.kwantlen.bc.ca) by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA10449; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 09:25:59 -0700 Received: by trex (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA01056; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 09:25:58 +0800 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 09:25:57 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dumaresq X-Sender: david@trex To: Shawn Slavin Cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Slow open on INBOX... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1058 On Sun, 9 Apr 1995, Shawn Slavin wrote: > I think that the problem has to do with the NNTP software. Try setting > the NNTP-server to and running pine again. I believe that > you'll notice that the lag is gone. I must admit that I found this by > mistake, but I'm pretty sure that this is it. > Well I tried setting the nntp-server value to both "" and empty but it didn't make a difference. Both settings take about 40 secs (including login). There may be some difference between our systems. In any case, this wouldn't be much of a solution to those who actually have a nntp-server. Cheers, ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 10:03:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17009; Wed, 12 Apr 95 10:03:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08708; Wed, 12 Apr 95 09:43:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08702; Wed, 12 Apr 95 09:43:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rz5PX-00038LC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 09:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gk72@pippi.hrz.uni-giessen.de (Arthur Teschler) Subject: Re: No MIME Message-Id: Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 17:18:29 GMT References: On Sun, 9 Apr 1995 11:52:47 -0400 John Gardiner Myers (jgm+@CMU.EDU) wrote: : "Lee M. Latham" writes: : > [...] and I don't reckon I can ask every user in Russia to : > use a MIME unencoder to read my posts! ;) : Why not? One is readily available. But why? If the 8th bit is delivered correct and not cut off by some stupid gateways, there is no need to put an ordinary ISO-8859-X text into 'quoted-printable'. I'd like to turn that off, too. I can see the use of m[un]pack when sending pics, sound-files or similar, but an ordinary letter containing Umlauts should not end up in a rather unreadable thing with = made into =3D, end-of-lines looking like =20, lines broken up at different positions than I intended or other ugly things. Pine has a lot of nice features, but I would like to decide when to use them myself. At least I would like to be warned that the message going off is in a format my counterpart may not be able to read. -- Arthur.Teschler@uni-giessen.de From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 11:10:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20213; Wed, 12 Apr 95 11:10:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06446; Wed, 12 Apr 95 10:57:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06440; Wed, 12 Apr 95 10:57:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rz6Y0-00038LC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 10:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry.Bouwsma@tuke.sk Subject: Re: How to include/send files WITHOUT modification Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 21:03:45 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3mc8e9$1i6@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> On 10 Apr 1995, John Boswell wrote: > Could someone please give me a pointer as to how to get Pine to > send some text (that was "read in" with ^R) without having it modified? > It seems to like to replace all tabs with "=09+ and linefeeds with "=20". You're seeing the results of MIME's quoted-printable encoding, which is what Pine uses when the mail it is trying to send has some 8-bit data in it. (Technically, the =20 you see is not a newline but the space character at the end of the line.) Send a sample of a message you're trying to send. I don't see anything in your .signature or elsewhere that would trigger this encoding, so it would help to see an actual message so we could point out what non-ASCII chatacter it is which causes Pine to do this. Barry Bouwsma From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 11:35:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21587; Wed, 12 Apr 95 11:35:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11606; Wed, 12 Apr 95 11:28:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11600; Wed, 12 Apr 95 11:28:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rz73b-00038OC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 11:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ethans@bip.anatomy.upenn.edu (Ethan J. Sommer) Subject: Re: USING PICO TO CREATE .plan file? Date: 11 Apr 1995 16:33:48 GMT Message-Id: <3meb1c$arf@netnews.upenn.edu> References: Joseph Acac (ez054061@peseta.ucdavis.edu) wrote: : I am having trouble creating a plan file that will display when somebody : fingers my account...Can anyone assist me in how to use pico or anything : else to display a plan file? How is it done...Your help is greatly : appreciated... : Joseph you just edit the file and put what you want in it (what youtype will show) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 13:59:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28995; Wed, 12 Apr 95 13:59:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10403; Wed, 12 Apr 95 13:42:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10397; Wed, 12 Apr 95 13:42:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rz95t-00038OC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 13:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harold@crl.com (Harold Jennings Jr.) Subject: q Date: 12 Apr 1995 13:22:08 -0700 Message-Id: <3mhcpg$npu@crl7.crl.com> I was using tin. I was trying to delete an empty message from a newsgroup and wound up blocking myself and all articles from myself from that newsgroup by hitting ^K-kill/select. How do I undo what I've done? I've sent 3 messages but none of them has posted. How do I use this function to avoid this in the future? Also how do I get back all the postings that's been deleted? Example-- newsgroup shows 74 entries- when I open the group the listing shows maybe 4/5 new postings. When I hit (R) to toggle re/unread groups, my postings or articles still won't show. Help me please............. Thank you......................................... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 14:58:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01676; Wed, 12 Apr 95 14:58:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16799; Wed, 12 Apr 95 14:44:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from goggins.bath.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16793; Wed, 12 Apr 95 14:44:51 -0700 Received: from bath.ac.uk (actually host midge.bath.ac.uk) by goggins.bath.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 12 Apr 1995 22:43:32 +0100 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 22:44:30 +0100 (BST) From: Andy Powell To: Pine Info Subject: Forwarded messages not flagged as such Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It would be nice if Pine set a separate 'F' flag on those messages that have been forwarded (or bounced). Is that possible or is there some limitation in the underlying IMAP stuff? I regularly have to forward received messages on to others for comment before answering the sender and it's sometimes difficult to keep track of which messages I've forwarded. I suppose that I could get round this by manually setting the 'Important' flag on messages (I don't currently use that flag in its intended way) or by moving messages between folders to keep track of which have been forwarded but it seems a bit messy? One other thing... in Pine 3.91 the 'Deleted' flag moves with a message if you save it into another folder. This seems a little crazy since the most common time this happens is when you have previously marked a message for deletion but then decide that you didn't really want to do that and save it to another folder instead? How about a clear-delete-flag-on-save option? Thanks, Andy. -- BUCS, University of Bath, Bath, BA2 7AY, UK Voice: +44 1225 826485 http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ccsap/ Fax: +44 1225 826176 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 17:52:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10928; Wed, 12 Apr 95 17:52:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21301; Wed, 12 Apr 95 17:40:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21295; Wed, 12 Apr 95 17:40:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzCrj-00038LC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 17:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 slow on opening INBOX ? Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 17:17:09 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3m76c1$opv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <3mbsf7$bnt@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 12 Apr 1995, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > Mark Crispin writes: > >There is a known problem in Pine 3.91 relating to slow opening of mbox > >format mail files. The algorithm itself is OK, but certain C compilers > >are known to generate code which runs very slowly. So I changed the > >algorithm to an equivalent one which doesn't cause the problem. > > >This problem is fixed in the latest IMAP toolkit, > > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.tar.Z > >Remove the imap/ directory tree in your Pine sources, and replace it with > >this new toolkit, then rebuild Pine. > > This is unclear. Does this account for slowness in non-IMAP situations > also? Are there updated binaries available, since a lot of people just get > binaries from your ftp site. It accounts for the slowness in accessing an mbox format folder. In non-IMAP situations, it is local file access to an mbox format folder. In IMAP situations, it is the IMAP server's local file access to an mbox format folder. We only release pre-built binaries for source releases of Pine. We do not release development sources or pre-built binaries from development sources. So, there will be no pre-built binaries with this fix until 3.92 is released. The IMAP toolkit is also distributed separately as ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/imap.tar.Z That distribution reflects the very latest version of our development sources, for the benefit of other non-Pine IMAP toolkit developers. Often it is updated multiple times a day. For this reason, it is not practical to offer pre-built binaries for the IMAP toolkit, except as part of a Pine release. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 18:21:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11786; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:21:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16297; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:10:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16291; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:10:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzDLB-00038LC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: reichera@itsi.disa.mil (Reston) Subject: Re: USING PICO TO CREATE .plan file? Date: 11 Apr 1995 13:51:50 -0400 Message-Id: <3mefjm$6bo@jcdbs.itsi.disa.mil> References: <3meb1c$arf@netnews.upenn.edu> Once created, make sure the permissions are correct, otherwise only you will be able to read it. Ethan J. Sommer (ethans@bip.anatomy.upenn.edu) wrote: : Joseph Acac (ez054061@peseta.ucdavis.edu) wrote: : : I am having trouble creating a plan file that will display when somebody : : fingers my account...Can anyone assist me in how to use pico or anything : : else to display a plan file? How is it done...Your help is greatly : : appreciated... : : Joseph : you just edit the file and put what you want in it (what youtype will show) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 18:27:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11905; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:27:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21856; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:14:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21850; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:14:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzDOM-00038OC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmartin@vub.ac.be (Martin Jan) Subject: [Q] Changing attachment headers Date: 12 Apr 1995 21:37:37 GMT Message-Id: <3mhh71$q9p@rc1.vub.ac.be> The Eudora/PINE saga continues... I got Email from Steve Dorner (sdorner@qualcomm.com), the author of Eudora, who said that Eudora will recognize text files sent as PINE attachments as attachments on the condition that the header of the ATTACHMENT contains the following line: Content-Disposition: attachment For example: ---1044512224-2078917053-797701623=:26036 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="cnthermofin.tex" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Disposition: attachment Content-Description: XGRvY3VtZW50c3R5bGVbYXBzLHByZXByaW50LHByYl17cmV2dGV4fQ0KJSAx aW4gbWFyZ2lucyBhdCBsZWZ0IGFuZCByaWdodA0KXG9kZHNpZGVtYXJnaW49 MGluDQpcZXZlbnNpZGVtYXJnaW49MGluDQpcdGV4dHdpZHRoPTYuMjY3N2lu [etc etc] So the problem is reduced to finding a way to insert custom attachment headers. Any idea if this can be done in pine? Many thanks in advance. Be well, Jan M.L. Martin/Theoretical Chemistry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 18:42:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12475; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:42:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16622; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:34:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16616; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:34:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzDgz-00038LC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Right Said Fred Subject: One more question Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 14:40:13 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3mbkn2$hf6@wariat.wariat.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3mbkn2$hf6@wariat.wariat.org> Hi, All! My PINE seems to be erasing the messages from the newsgroups one week after they are posted. Does anybody know how I can change it? Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 18:49:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12717; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:49:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22295; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:40:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22289; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:40:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzDnE-00038QC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Global addressboks for Pine Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 11:41:02 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: We don't know when 3.92 will be ready yet, but I do recommend upgrading to 3.91, since 3.90 has some bugs that can cause loss of your addressbook, etc. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 9 Apr 1995, David Dumaresq wrote: > Date: 9 Apr 1995 22:52:27 -0700 > From: David Dumaresq > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: Global addressboks for Pine > > On Sat, 8 Apr 1995, Steve Hubert wrote: > > > If you are talking about sharing an addressbook between a Unix system and > > a PC (using some remote filesystem) this won't work with Pine3.91 (due to > > a bug), but it will be fixed for 3.92. > > > > Any word on when 3.92 will be ready, also if it will be a while is there > any reason to move from 3.90 (Solaris) ? > > Cheers! > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca > Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 > Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 > > "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 19:04:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12994; Wed, 12 Apr 95 19:04:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22502; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:54:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22496; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:54:12 -0700 Received: from [140.142.189.6] by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15777; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:53:40 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 17:53:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Andy Powell Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: Forwarded messages not flagged as such X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Andy, The IMAP4 spec does define a small fixed set of message flags, but also allows for the possibility of some client-defined flags. Pine does not currently support the latter class of flags, but we may add that after we have everything upgraded to the IMAP4 spec... As for preserving the deleted flag on Save: we agree, and this will be fixed in 3.92. -teg On Wed, 12 Apr 1995, Andy Powell wrote: > It would be nice if Pine set a separate 'F' flag on those messages that have > been forwarded (or bounced). Is that possible or is there some limitation > in the underlying IMAP stuff? I regularly have to forward received messages > on to others for comment before answering the sender and it's sometimes > difficult to keep track of which messages I've forwarded. > > I suppose that I could get round this by manually setting the 'Important' > flag on messages (I don't currently use that flag in its intended way) or by > moving messages between folders to keep track of which have been forwarded > but it seems a bit messy? > > One other thing... in Pine 3.91 the 'Deleted' flag moves with a message > if you save it into another folder. This seems a little crazy since the > most common time this happens is when you have previously marked a message > for deletion but then decide that you didn't really want to do that and > save it to another folder instead? > > How about a clear-delete-flag-on-save option? > > Thanks, > > Andy. > -- > BUCS, University of Bath, Bath, BA2 7AY, UK Voice: +44 1225 826485 > http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ccsap/ Fax: +44 1225 826176 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 20:02:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14567; Wed, 12 Apr 95 20:02:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17637; Wed, 12 Apr 95 19:49:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17631; Wed, 12 Apr 95 19:49:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzEvO-00038LC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 19:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jack@ns.pb.net Subject: Strange from lines .... Date: 12 Apr 1995 17:07:25 -0400 Message-Id: <3mhfed$5ec@ns.pb.net> I am having a problem with our from lines. It seems that pine wants to put either the hostname or domain name at the end of incoming mail address. Our mail comes in via uucp so the addressing is bang style, but if I could get it to be domain style I would be happy as well. The varying behaviour is related to if I have the user-domain= set to our local domain or not. If it is set then it uses the domain name and if not it uses the system name. Any pointer would be great. Jack Gross Republic National Bank From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 21:14:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16501; Wed, 12 Apr 95 21:14:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24588; Wed, 12 Apr 95 21:02:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24582; Wed, 12 Apr 95 21:02:13 -0700 Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA226025731; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 00:02:11 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 00:02:11 -0400 From: GEbeling@aol.com Message-Id: <950413000209_81485213@aol.com> To: 73261.2603@compuserve.com Cc: Pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine System with Procomm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Guy K. Ebeling, Jr. 11488 Fernwood Ave. Fontana, CA 92337-2718 Home 909 356-1961 Work 909 685-2155 Fax at Work 909 685-7806 AOL Gebeling CompuServe 73261,2603 April 12, 1995 Datastorm Help!!!! My daughter Lisa A. Ebeling is a student at the University of Oregon. Recently one of her teachers told her that she would have to get an E-ma= il account on Gladstone for class work. Knowing that at some point she woul= d be using BBS I bought her what I believed to be the best software to use for= BBS=92s (Procomm for Windows 2.0) and now much to my dismay I am unable t= o get Procomm to work with Gladstone/Pine system 3.9. The problem is that Pine= system hi-lights items and when Hi-lighted they can not be read. The Pin= e System 3.9 comes from The Pine Development Team at the University of Washington, Seattle, WA at world-wide email at = pine-info@cac.washington.edu several of my daughters class mates and Lisa would like to use her comput= er to log on to Gladstone/Pine system but with these hi-lighted items not be= ing readable they are going over to the computer lab across the campus. I wo= uld like to get this problem fixed for Lisa and show her class mates that Pro= comm really is the finest package you can buy for data comm. I have tried changeing, types, colors, and etc todate. Your help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you in advance = Guy K. Ebeling, Jr. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 22:00:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17698; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:00:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25210; Wed, 12 Apr 95 21:48:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25204; Wed, 12 Apr 95 21:48:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzGjO-00038LC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 21:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: s010mes@discover.wright.edu (Moshe Segal) Subject: Using Pine To Read News Date: 13 Apr 1995 01:45:35 GMT Message-Id: <3mhvnv$vgs@alpha.wright.edu> Hi. I just subscribed to this group, and this is my first post. I have been using Pine for a number of months to manage my mail. It is much more efficient and friendly then Unix Mail, especially where the editor is concerned. Until now, I have continued to use Tin to read and post to newsgroups; in fact, I am in it right now. For the first time, I seriously used Pine to read news a few days ago. In some ways, it is better than Tin, making articles similar to mail messages, and using simple commands. There is one thing, however, which poses a problem for me, and I am wondering if Pine has a way to handle it. In Tin, articles and their responses are chronologically arranged in threads, so that it is easy to follow a discussion. This is particularly useful when I have posted a new article, and am waiting for a response. It seems that in Pine, the articles are placed randomly, and in an index of hundreds of articles, those with the same name are spread far apart. Is there a way that Pine can be configured to organize news into threads? Also, is there a search command in the index? Once I have information, I can decide whether or not to switch. Hope to hear from you soon. -- You're not the only one who's made mistakes Moshe E. SEgal But they're the only things 1336 Cory Drive That you can truly call your own Dayton, Oh 45406 Some people hope for a miracle cure, s010mes@discover.wright.edu Some people just accept the world as it is. (513) 279-0438 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 22:12:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17898; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:12:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19322; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:03:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19316; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:03:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzH16-00038LC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dunigan@primenet.com (Michael Dunigan) Subject: WYSE Terminal Help Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 04:48:58 GMT Message-Id: <3miag4$7gp@news.primenet.com> Okay here is my problem..... I have a lot of wyse 30, 60 and 160 terminals out there.... I want to use Pine for the e-mail interface. I know that the FAQ mentions that it won't support these terminals (at least when it comes to the arrow key functions). I figured out that I can used the VT-100 commands (i.e. ^[[A,B,C,D) to manipulate the cursor. What I would like to do is run a shell script before executing pine that would program the arrow keys to send back these strings. When pine is finished executing, it would restore the arrow keys to their default mode. I can't get this to work. It works great if I am manually setting them in SETUP mode, however when I script it I am having no luck. Does anybody have any ideas? Has anybody accomplished this little feat? I would appreciate any help. Please e-mail me and let me know. Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 22:31:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18507; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:31:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19460; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:14:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19454; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:14:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzHAb-00038LC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ronald B Harris-White II Subject: How do you move a long listing of address headers to the bottom of the email? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 01:05:15 GMT I send email to a bunch of my friends all at once, and I get complants from them that the beginning is SOOO long because of all the address headers. So I was wondering, how do you move all the address headers to the bottom of the email that you are sending? ( I have seen it done before). Thanks... Ron Harris-White II rii@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 22:34:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18570; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:34:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25605; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:14:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25599; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:14:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzH9R-00038OC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sean@cortex.ama.ttuhsc.edu (Sean Dougherty) Subject: Re: pine user guide Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 04:24:53 GMT Richard C. Gaine (rgaine@pilot.njin.net) wrote: : At our cite, we would like to make pine the standard mailer. I would : like to know if there is a brochure type user guide for pine avaliable. : Does this exist? if so, where can I get it? : Rick Gaine : Systems Administrator : rgaine@pilot.njin.net We never found one, and wound up writing our own. It is big though 11M postscript file. I can send you the first 8 pages if you want to see if it is something you can use. If you can use it, I can send you the original WP 5.1 document. All we ask is that Texas Tech University HSC Amarillo, Sean Dougherty, and Kim Andersen are mentioned somewhere in your final document. sean HEAD COMPUTER GEEK TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY HSC AMARILLO From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 23:07:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19424; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:07:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26305; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:03:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26299; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:03:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzHvQ-00038LC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: manson@ecf.toronto.edu (Bob Manson) Subject: long "To" fields from distribution lists? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 21:27:51 GMT Sorry if I missed it in the manual. People have been complaining about long "To" lists in their messages. Often, a two or three line message sent to a distribution list is preceded by a 25 or 30 line header. Is there any way of telling pine to send stuff out to a distribution list one name at a time? thanks bob From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 23:32:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19951; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:32:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20316; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:23:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20310; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:23:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzID2-00038LC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: q Date: 13 Apr 1995 03:47:46 GMT Message-Id: <3mi6t2$a9h@grape.epix.net> References: <3mhcpg$npu@crl7.crl.com> Harold Jennings Jr. (harold@crl.com) wrote: A message having nothing to do with pine, but we'll try to help him anyway. : I was using tin. : I was trying to delete an empty message from a newsgroup and wound up Just a stupid question; Why did ya wanna do that anyway? : blocking myself and all articles from myself from that newsgroup by : hitting ^K-kill/select. How do I undo what I've done? I've sent 3 messages : but none of them has posted. Actually they probably have posted, but you can't read them because you killed yourself. If ya wanna let me know what group you posted to and approx date and roughly what the post said, I'll see if I can read it. How do I use this function to avoid this in : the future? Don't kill yourself. Also how do I get back all the postings that's been deleted? Theyre not deleted (from the usenet group) you just can't read them. : Example-- newsgroup shows 74 entries- when I open the group the listing : shows maybe 4/5 new postings. When I hit (R) to toggle re/unread groups, : my postings or articles still won't show. Help me please............. OK I'm gonna try, but if you don't understand any of this or don't feel comfortable doing it, don't try it or you could scew something else up. Open up a file (with pico or any text editor that you feel comfortabe with) file named .kill (must have the . in the file name). Now you should see the .kill file in text ascii form. If not, quit (cancel or exit without saving or whatever). If you do see it, delete the line (or lines) which you put there by mistake (in pico, put the cursor on the line and hit ^K (control+K). Then resave the file with the same name (.kill). Depending on your text editor you may be prompted if you want to overwrite the existing file or something. Don't feel bad, I did the same thing myself, that's why I'm so smart on how to fix it. There may be an easier way, maybe someone else out there in cyberspace has a better answer. BYE DearOldDad /~~~/~~~/~~~/\ /\/\ /\ / / / / \/\/ POCONO MTNS PA DearOldDad:The older I get, the smarter I used to be./ \/\jgvd@epix.net Jonathan:Kids are people too; Have guitar, will travel.\ \/\ \ /\ \ Thought for the day: / / / / / / \/ \ \/ \/\ None:My mind is temporarily out of order. /___/___/___/___/____\/____\_\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 23:38:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20070; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:38:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26670; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:29:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26664; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:29:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzIIh-00038QC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: KevinSinclair@Computer.com Subject: Re: long "To" fields from distribution lists? Date: 12 Apr 1995 05:55:09 GMT Message-Id: <3mfpvt$ij6@hustle.rahul.net> References: Put the cursor in the header area and hit control+r. This is called the 'rich header'. Now put all your addresses in the BCC: field which stands for Blind Carbon Copy. No one sees anyone else's address when they receive their mail. Kevin Bob Manson (manson@ecf.toronto.edu) wrote: : Sorry if I missed it in the manual. People have been complaining about : long "To" lists in their messages. Often, a two or three line message : sent to a distribution list is preceded by a 25 or 30 line header. Is : there any way of telling pine to send stuff out to a distribution list : one name at a time? : thanks : bob -- \ __________________________________________________________________ / \ = Kevin J. Sinclair Project: \ = Kevin@computer.com Personal: > = San Carlos CA USA List Owner: Kidopedia & Grateful Med / \ __________________________________________________________________ / / -- Kevin J. Sinclair From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 00:08:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20864; Thu, 13 Apr 95 00:08:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20737; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:59:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20725; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:59:02 -0700 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA16886; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 23:58:43 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 23:58:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: Re: WYSE Terminal Help To: Michael Dunigan Cc: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: <3miag4$7gp@news.primenet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 13 Apr 1995, Michael Dunigan wrote: > Okay here is my problem..... I have a lot of wyse 30, 60 and 160 > terminals out there.... I want to use Pine for the e-mail interface. > I know that the FAQ mentions that it won't support these terminals (at > least when it comes to the arrow key functions). I figured out that I > can used the VT-100 commands (i.e. ^[[A,B,C,D) to manipulate the > cursor. Try this on for size...I call it "pine" in /local/bin Originally from a participant on the list. Maybe this could be added to the FAQ...it's not THAT long a script. Maybe at the archive site at UWASH? #!/bin/sh wpinesetup(){ echo "\nSetting up Wyse arrow and function keys..." # Next/Prev Page echo "\033Z1r \0177\c" echo "\033Z1w-\0177\c" # Char/Line delete echo "\033Z15\04\0177\c" echo "\033Z16\013\0177\c" # Arrow keys echo "\033Z1+\033[A\0177\c" echo "\033Z1,\033[B\0177\c" echo "\033Z1.\033[C\0177\c" echo "\033Z1-\033[D\0177\c" echo "Done\n" } wpinereset() { echo "\nResetting standard Wyse arrow/function keys..." #t/Prev Page echo "\033Z1r\0177\c" echo "\033Z1w\0177\c" # Char/Line delete echo "\033Z15\0177\c" echo "\033Z16\0177\c" # Arrow keys echo "\033Z1+\0177\c" echo "\033Z1.\0177\c" echo "\033Z1,\0177\c" echo "\033Z1-\0177\c" echo "Done.\n" } if [ "$TERM" != "wyse50" ] then /local/bin/pine1 $* clear exit fi trap wpinereset 0 1 2 3 15 wpinesetup /local/bin/pine1 $* wpinereset clear exit ------------------ Note....original pine is in /local/bin/pine1 B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 01:25:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22871; Thu, 13 Apr 95 01:25:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21854; Thu, 13 Apr 95 01:18:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21848; Thu, 13 Apr 95 01:18:29 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:15:20 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA02715; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:18:35 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:18:35 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Moshe Segal Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using Pine To Read News In-Reply-To: <3mhvnv$vgs@alpha.wright.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You need to use Pine's "sort" command: $ Open up the newsgroup (or mail folder) you want to read. Type "$" and you will get a menu offering various criteria for sorting the messages. The best criterion for Usenet News is Ordered Subject (O). This sorts first by subject field (getting related messages together), with a secondary sort key of the date (sorting the related messages into chronological order by the date and time they were posted. When you close the folder the sorting is forgotten, so my instinctive reaction upon opening a newsgroup in Pine is "$O". If you find this useful you can make it the default sorting option in the Setup (S) Configuration (C) screen, accessed from Pine's Main Menu. Note, however, that this default currently affects *all* folders be they news or mail. Whilst I find Ordered Subject sorting great for News Collection folders I prefer Arrival sorting for ordinary folders, so leave my default as Arrival sorting. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On 13 Apr 1995, Moshe Segal wrote: > Hi. I just subscribed to this group, and this is my first post. I have > been using Pine for a number of months to manage my mail. It is much > more efficient and friendly then Unix Mail, especially where the editor > is concerned. > > Until now, I have continued to use Tin to read and post to newsgroups; in > fact, I am in it right now. For the first time, I seriously used Pine to > read news a few days ago. In some ways, it is better than Tin, making > articles similar to mail messages, and using simple commands. There is > one thing, however, which poses a problem for me, and I am wondering if > Pine has a way to handle it. In Tin, articles and their responses are > chronologically arranged in threads, so that it is easy to follow a > discussion. This is particularly useful when I have posted a new > article, and am waiting for a response. It seems that in Pine, the > articles are placed randomly, and in an index of hundreds of articles, > those with the same name are spread far apart. Is there a way that Pine > can be configured to organize news into threads? Also, is there a search > command in the index? Once I have information, I can decide whether or > not to switch. Hope to hear from you soon. > > > -- > You're not the only one who's made mistakes Moshe E. SEgal > But they're the only things 1336 Cory Drive > That you can truly call your own Dayton, Oh 45406 > > Some people hope for a miracle cure, s010mes@discover.wright.edu > Some people just accept the world as it is. (513) 279-0438 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 01:39:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23430; Thu, 13 Apr 95 01:39:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28448; Thu, 13 Apr 95 01:25:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28442; Thu, 13 Apr 95 01:25:02 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:21:46 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA03138; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:25:03 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:25:03 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Ronald B Harris-White II Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How do you move a long listing of address headers to the bottom of the email? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The whole idea of headers is that they are *headers*... they appear at the *head* of something. In this case the mailbox format used by most mail systems and readers (including Pine) tends to be that known as "Berkeley format". This is defined as having the "header" information at the start of the message followed by the message text. What you *really* want to do is suppress the huge list of usernames. You can do this in Pine by *not* using the "To:" header field to give the list of recipients. Instead type Ctrl/R (Rich Headers) to get some extra header fields displayed. Then put the list of recipients in the "Bcc:" field. "Bcc" stands for "Blind Carbon Copy". This is a way of sending a message to a number of people, but who each only see their own name as a recipient -- they don't see each others. A couple of points to note... * For Bcc to work properly the mail delivery agent (the thing which writes the message into the file as it arrives, as against Pine which "simply" is used for reading the messages once they have been written into the file) being properly configured. If someone's "sendmail" delivery agent, for example, isn't configured properly they'll still get the full list of names (but then that's *their* problem:-) * The recipients can Reply to the message, but their repliy will only come to you, not to every one else you sent the original message to (as the recipient doesn't get to know about them, so can't reply to them!:-) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On Wed, 12 Apr 1995, Ronald B Harris-White II wrote: > > I send email to a bunch of my friends all at once, and I get complants > from them that the beginning is SOOO long because of all the address > headers. So I was wondering, how do you move all the address headers to > the bottom of the email that you are sending? ( I have seen it done > before). Thanks... > > Ron Harris-White II > rii@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.edu > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 02:13:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24104; Thu, 13 Apr 95 02:13:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22392; Thu, 13 Apr 95 02:03:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22386; Thu, 13 Apr 95 02:03:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzKhE-00038LC; Thu, 13 Apr 95 01:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsumler@bach.ucs.indiana.edu (jeff sumler) Subject: Re: long "To" fields from distribution lists? Date: 13 Apr 1995 06:54:25 GMT Message-Id: <3mihr1$2nd@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> References: <3mfpvt$ij6@hustle.rahul.net> In article <3mfpvt$ij6@hustle.rahul.net>, wrote: >Put the cursor in the header area and hit control+r. This is called the >'rich header'. Now put all your addresses in the BCC: field which stands >for Blind Carbon Copy. No one sees anyone else's address when they >receive their mail. While this is the recommended method in pine for sending mail via pine's internal aliases, note that there are (at least) two sendmail issues that may cause the addresses in the mailing list to be visible to recipients. 1) Sendmail strips the Bcc: field from outgoing messages. If your message has no address in the To: header, the message arrives at the target host with no header To: field (which violates RFC 822). The receiving sendmail thus adds an Apparently-To: line for every recipient. Most mailers filter out this header, but if yours doesn't (or if it offers a "raw header" option) - whoops, you see all the addresses to which the message was Bcc:'ed . Obviously this can cause a great deal of embarassment in some circumstances. The current solution is to always put something in the To: field - a dummy address, even an RFC 822 comment like (My-Mailing-List). (This handling of Bcc: has always been a problem and various alternatives are being discussed on the sendmail beta list.) 2) Older versions of sendmail (basically anything prior to Berkeley V8) maintain a fixed buffer for headre contents, the size of which is determined at compile time. A very long mailing list may cause sendmail's header buffer to overflow, with the overflow being insert into the message (and flagged as overflow). This has also caused much embarassment when it reveals to the world the contents of a supposedly "secret" Bcc: V8 dynamically allocates buffers for message headers, so this problem goes away. Few vendors ship V* sendmail however, so it is a problem to be aware of. Obviously these are sendmail issues but I thought it might be worth mentioning them. jeff sumler Systems Engineer, Indiana University jsumler@indiana.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 06:23:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00490; Thu, 13 Apr 95 06:23:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02504; Thu, 13 Apr 95 06:13:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02498; Thu, 13 Apr 95 06:12:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzOXH-00038LC; Thu, 13 Apr 95 06:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: Some problems being faced in PINE 3.91 under VMS Message-Id: <1737EC7C9S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <1995Apr12.134937.410@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:12:22 GMT In article <1995Apr12.134937.410@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw> rakesh@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw writes: >Sorry to bother you all on this group. I recently installed PINE 3.91 under >VMS 5.5-2 & UCX 2.0E, which I got from VMS.HUJI.AC.IL. The current version at HUJI seems to be BETA_4. Did you use that? I can only respond to a few of your questions from my own experience, which was done first with a fixed version of BETA_3, and later with BETA_4, using native MULTINET (which is of course different in some ways from using any other TCP stack and NETLIB). >2. I have no luck with NEWS also, though I have declared nntp_server as my > machine kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw (which is an NNTP server which we are using > locally). It works for me, although I find I prefer to use the Madison NEWSRDR that I have already been familiar with on the VMS platform. >When, I go to list of folders under PINE, it shows me: > > News-collection (Remote) ... > [ ** Empty List ** Select Here to Try Re-expanding] yes, I get both of those, at the start... (adding a group) > [News Group doesn't exist] No, adding a group with a known name works fine for me, and ] requesting list of all groups gives a massive list that looks reasonable to me. > Do I need to create > .newsrc or newsrc. file manually & what is format for the entries in it? I don't think so. I just did a test for you, renaming .newsrc to .somethingelse and restarting (HUJI)PINE. It gave me the same display as we already discussed. I subscribed to a group (uk.test) and it said "Creating news state SYS$LOGIN:.newsrc". >3. Though I am able to send/receive mail using PINE by setting logical > name PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL as SMTP but if I define smtp_server as our > machine (kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw & deassign PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL), I get > message: > > [Error connecting to mail server: ] Well, I get different results. It works fine for me when I define smtp_server (pointing back at the same VAX system where I'm running PINE, just like Yehavi's example in the README.VMS), but it didn't work when I tried the other method. I didn't go into details about why it didn't work, sorry. > What is the difference between the above two mechanisms (ie defining > PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL but no SMTP_SERVER & not defining PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL > but setting smtp_server)? Why the first mechanism works but the second > does not work (even though TELNET KUC01.KUNIV.EDU.KW 25 works fine & I > am able to log into SMTP interactively)? Well all that I can say is that it works for me, using MULTINET. I can only suggest that the first place you should look for problems is your NETLIB, but as I didn't use that myself, I can't say more. Anyway, if you have a method that works, what is your problem? ;-) >4. I could not find a way in PINE (possibly did not read documentation > carefully) to select only some mail items in a mail folder based on > date,from etc? Under VMS mail, this can be done by DIR/SINCE,DIR/FROM > etc. Can some body suggest, how can I achive this in PINE? Selection criteria. You need to enable the aggregate-command-set option before the "; Select" command becomes available, I think. I don't suppose you get precisely the same selection criteria in PINE than are available in VMS MAIL, but after all, you don't use the ability to execute MAIL when you want to use its particular functions... hope this helps. You can also look at my Web page on this: http://d1.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/vms-pine.html (~ = %7E) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 06:52:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01120; Thu, 13 Apr 95 06:52:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25363; Thu, 13 Apr 95 06:38:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25357; Thu, 13 Apr 95 06:38:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzOxP-00038QC; Thu, 13 Apr 95 06:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dnw@eskimo.com Subject: pine, linux, X and popclient Message-Id: <3mi7lr$369@arnie.eskimo.com> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 04:00:59 GMT I am running linux 1.1.54 and X11R6 3.1, and using TIA to establish a pseudo- slip connection to my internet provider; I use popclient to retrieve my mail, and pine 3.91 in an xterm to read it. A lot of the time when mail arrives while pine is running, I get a message like "inbox closed due to access error, consult an expert" or "mailbox format invalidated" and I have to quit and restart pine. (I've probably misquoted the error messages, but I hope you get the idea.) Anyone have a similar problem (and a solution)? -- ++++++++++++++++++++ + Dave Williams + + dnw@eskimo.com + ++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 08:56:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06066; Thu, 13 Apr 95 08:56:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27429; Thu, 13 Apr 95 08:43:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27415; Thu, 13 Apr 95 08:42:59 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA11362; Thu, 13 Apr 95 17:41:13 +0200 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 17:41:12 +0200 (METDST) From: Vladimir Solnicky To: Pine Developers Cc: The Pine Discussion List Subject: Bug (ID TV6GY): Improper use of Fcc: from an .addresbook file Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="82924112-1932422408-797787672=:8272" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --82924112-1932422408-797787672=:8272 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE When I run Compose, put am alias to the To: field and the alias has the=20 Fcc: field non-empty, its content is put to a new message Fcc: field. BUT= =20 if I go to the Subject line, then back to the To: line and than back to=20 the Subject line, Fcc: changes its content to sent-mail! I do not use=20 anything except arrow keys. =20 | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz Europe WWW (will be) at http://www.utia.cas.cz/home/WWW/data/user_data/vs/vs-home.= http --82924112-1932422408-797787672=:8272 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; name="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = vs, full = Vladimir Solnicky home = /visla/vs home_dir= /visla/vs hostname= visla.utia.cas.cz localdom= utia.cas.cz userdom= NULL maildom= utia.cas.cz cur_cntxt= [] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= /usr/mail/vs msgmap: tot=586, cur=585, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival inbox is mail_stream term type=xterm, ttyname=/dev/pty/ttysb, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Vladimir Solnicky user-id : vs nntp-server : rhino.cis.vutbr.cz inbox-path : INBOX incoming-folders : "lorien" {lorien.site.cas.cz}inbox folder-collections : Mail/[] : {lorien.site.cas.cz}mail/[] news-collections : *{rhino.cis.vutbr.cz/nntp}[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook feature-list : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-flag-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-suspend : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : include-text-in-reply : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-tab-completion : signature-at-bottom : use-current-dir : expanded-view-of-folders : save-will-quote-leading-froms : select-without-confirm : include-header-in-reply : enable-incoming-folders initial-keystroke-li : i : w : ^v default-composer-hdr : To: : Cc: : Priority: : Attchmnt: : Subject: customized-hdrs : Priority: : X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic : Reply-To: vs@utia.cas.cz : Return-Receipt-To: vs@utia.cas.cz : Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) : Praha : Transport-Options: /delivery /return : Expires: : X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz saved-msg-name-rule : last-folder-used fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last character-set : ISO-8859-2 editor : czjed image-viewer : xv use-only-domain-name : Yes printer : lpr -od personal-print-comma : lpr -od standard-printer : lp last-time-prune-ques : 95.4 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/visla/vs/.pinerc) ======= personal-name : Vladimir Solnicky nntp-server : rhino.cis.vutbr.cz inbox-path : INBOX incoming-folders : "lorien" {lorien.site.cas.cz}inbox folder-collections : Mail/[] : {lorien.site.cas.cz}mail/[] feature-list : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-flag-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-suspend : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : include-text-in-reply : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-tab-completion : signature-at-bottom : use-current-dir : expanded-view-of-folders : save-will-quote-leading-froms : select-without-confirm : include-header-in-reply : enable-incoming-folders initial-keystroke-li : i : w : ^v default-composer-hdr : To: : Cc: : Priority: : Attchmnt: : Subject: customized-hdrs : Priority: : X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic : Reply-To: vs@utia.cas.cz : Return-Receipt-To: vs@utia.cas.cz : Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) : Praha : Transport-Options: /delivery /return : Expires: : X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz saved-msg-name-rule : last-folder-used character-set : ISO-8859-2 editor : czjed image-viewer : xv use-only-domain-name : Yes printer : lpr -od personal-print-comma : lpr -od last-time-prune-ques : 95.4 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lp bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd enable-aggregate-command-set enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly enable-bounce-cmd enable-flag-cmd enable-full-header-cmd enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue enable-suspend enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply include-header-in-reply include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom use-current-dir no-use-function-keys --82924112-1932422408-797787672=:8272-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 09:24:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07814; Thu, 13 Apr 95 09:24:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06138; Thu, 13 Apr 95 09:13:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06132; Thu, 13 Apr 95 09:13:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzRHE-00039BC; Thu, 13 Apr 95 08:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dmay@centenary.edu (Don May) Control: cancel Subject: cancel Message-Id: Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:40:41 GMT cancel in newsgroup comp.mail.pine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 09:51:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09157; Thu, 13 Apr 95 09:51:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29049; Thu, 13 Apr 95 09:45:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29043; Thu, 13 Apr 95 09:45:34 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00360; Thu, 13 Apr 95 09:45:24 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:45:17 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "juanitaf@sasquatch.com" Cc: Phillip Moore , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and Compress In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII And if you send us a copy, we'll see what we can do about getting it in the next Pine release... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 11 Apr 1995, juanitaf@sasquatch.com wrote: > Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 18:23:35 -0700 (PDT) > From: juanitaf@sasquatch.com > To: Phillip Moore > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Pine and Compress > > If you'll write the code, I'll buy it for $5. If enough of us would, > would it be worth your time? There are a lot of Pine users. > > Juanita > > On 11 Apr 1995, Phillip Moore > wrote: > > > Ananda M. Kar (ananda@cs.utexas.edu) wrote: > > : PINE can't do it but a shell sctipt can. > > > > : Suppose all your folders are in "/usr/people/pollarda/mail" and the > > : PINE binary is in "/usr/local/bin". Set the FDIR variable to where > > : your actual folders are if the above is not correct. > > > > : Create the following file and name it "Pine" do a "chmod +x Pine" and > > : invoke it with "./Pine" > > > > I recently made a post asking someting simmilar. I think a better solution > > would be to change the code to make pine to uncompress (gunzip) only > > the mail folder that you are accessing, and when you are done would > > gzip it back up in the background when your done with it. Would be > > transparent to the user except for a minor delay when opening a mail > > folder. If I had some extra time I'd do it, but was hoping someone > > out there had already done it. > > > > -- > > Hollernet: Phillip Moore PhoneNet: home : 601.324.0531 > > WorkNet : NSF, Engineering office: 601.325.4023 (voice mail) > > Research Center FaxNet : 601.325.7692 > > Systems Administration WWWnet: http://www.erc.msstate.edu/~phil/ > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 09:59:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09737; Thu, 13 Apr 95 09:59:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29252; Thu, 13 Apr 95 09:54:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29246; Thu, 13 Apr 95 09:54:44 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00596; Thu, 13 Apr 95 09:53:27 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:53:25 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Arthur Teschler Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: No MIME In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 10 Apr 1995, Arthur Teschler wrote: > Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 17:18:29 GMT > From: Arthur Teschler > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: No MIME > > On Sun, 9 Apr 1995 11:52:47 -0400 John Gardiner Myers (jgm+@CMU.EDU) wrote: > : "Lee M. Latham" writes: > : > [...] and I don't reckon I can ask every user in Russia to > : > use a MIME unencoder to read my posts! ;) > > : Why not? One is readily available. > > But why? > > If the 8th bit is delivered correct and not cut off by some stupid gateways, > there is no need to put an ordinary ISO-8859-X text into 'quoted-printable'. > I'd like to turn that off, too. > The next release of Pine will be able to negotiate 8bit c-t-e for text if your MTA understands ESMTP 8BITMIME. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 10:37:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11840; Thu, 13 Apr 95 10:37:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00180; Thu, 13 Apr 95 10:32:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00174; Thu, 13 Apr 95 10:32:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzSZl-00038OC; Thu, 13 Apr 95 10:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mkidd@junior.wariat.org (Monee C. Kidd) Subject: Pine error message Date: 10 Apr 1995 16:00:34 GMT Message-Id: <3mbkn2$hf6@wariat.wariat.org> I've been trying to send a rather large file to a rather long distribution list and I keep getting different sh ##### : Bus Errors. The number I've gotten so far are 16000, 13434 and most recently 12760. I tried cutting my distribution list down from 75 to 60, as someone suggested pine couldn't handle that many addresses at once, but I just get different error numbers. Can someone tell me what these numbers mean and how I might be able to fix this problem? Thanks. -- <(*)> | Vote YES on rec.food.chocolate! "Life is like a box of chocolates... |The *new* sweetest newsgroup on the Net You never know what you're gonna get" | <(*)> | Monee C. Kidd, mkidd@wariat.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 12:31:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24308; Thu, 13 Apr 95 12:31:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02986; Thu, 13 Apr 95 12:24:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02978; Thu, 13 Apr 95 12:24:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzUFp-00038dC; Thu, 13 Apr 95 12:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mlambre@orion.it.luc.edu (Michael D. Lambrecht) Subject: PICO and HTML files Date: 13 Apr 1995 16:44:52 GMT Message-Id: <3mjke4$ea9@apollo.it.luc.edu> I am a newbie to PINE and would like to publish a Home Page on the Web. I would like to use HTML and put it into a PICO file, then out into the web. I have an ORION account. How do I do this? -- Michael Lambrecht Graduate Student Institute of Human Resources and Industrial Relations Loyola University of Chicago Water Tower Campus 1-312-743-0211 (Home) e-mail: mlambre@orion.it.luc.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 13:52:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00411; Thu, 13 Apr 95 13:52:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23597; Thu, 13 Apr 95 13:37:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from wizard.uark.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23591; Thu, 13 Apr 95 13:37:32 -0700 Received: from uasaturn.uark.edu by wizard.uark.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/15.6) id AA02019; Thu, 13 Apr 95 15:37:20 -0500 Received: from SATURN/MERCURY by uasaturn.uark.edu (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 13 Apr 95 15:35:20 GMT-6 Received: from MERCURY by SATURN (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 13 Apr 95 15:35:00 GMT-6 From: "Randy Holder" Organization: University of Arkansas To: Andrew Le , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 15:34:53 CST Subject: Re: Suggestion regarding ;aad Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.11a) Message-Id: <661D87416D@uasaturn.uark.edu> > I'd like to know how to get a list of all known mailing lists so I can get > on, just like this pine mailing list... Andrew, You can send a mail message to listserv sites on the internet. Leave the subject line blank and on the first line of the message, write LIST GLOBAL. The listserv software should mail you back a list of all internet listserv discussion lists. You should be able to mail our listserv and acquire that if you like. Send E-mail to listserv@uafsysb.uark.edu. I'm not really sure as to how different software such as majordomo handles this kind of request. Hope this helps, Randy Holder Electronic Mail Specialist University of Arkansas Fayetteville, Arkansas > Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 08:31:23 -0700 > From: Andrew Le > To: Joshua Hosseinoff > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Suggestion regarding ;aad > > To all users: > > Hello, > > I'd like to know how to get a list of all known mailing lists so I can get > on, just like this pine mailing list... > > > If you know of any way to get one and how to get on, please Email me. > > > ================================================================== > Andrew Le > ================================================================== > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 14:30:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02416; Thu, 13 Apr 95 14:30:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06008; Thu, 13 Apr 95 14:18:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06002; Thu, 13 Apr 95 14:18:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzVyT-00038OC; Thu, 13 Apr 95 13:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mark C." Subject: filter and mailing lists Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 12:30:50 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I'm trying to set up a mini-listserver at work with Pine and Filter. Basically, I'm trying to get Filter to bounce every message with "lab" in the subject to a mailing list. Rather than having to manually type every address in my filter-rules file, is there anyway Filter can take advantage of Pine's address book? Thanks! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 15:05:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08221; Thu, 13 Apr 95 15:05:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00912; Thu, 13 Apr 95 14:58:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00906; Thu, 13 Apr 95 14:58:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzWbx-00038QC; Thu, 13 Apr 95 14:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 slow on opening INBOX ? Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:32:28 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3m76c1$opv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <3mbsf7$bnt@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3mbsf7$bnt@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> On 10 Apr 1995, jeff sumler wrote: > None of the > hosts in question here have declared nntp servers in pine.conf, so the > problem we're seeing is not related to delays in opening a connection to > a nntp server. Any other suggestions would be welcome . . . . There is a known problem in Pine 3.91 relating to slow opening of mbox format mail files. The algorithm itself is OK, but certain C compilers are known to generate code which runs very slowly. So I changed the algorithm to an equivalent one which doesn't cause the problem. This problem is fixed in the latest IMAP toolkit, ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.tar.Z Remove the imap/ directory tree in your Pine sources, and replace it with this new toolkit, then rebuild Pine. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 15:05:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08250; Thu, 13 Apr 95 15:05:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06925; Thu, 13 Apr 95 14:58:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06919; Thu, 13 Apr 95 14:58:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzWUv-00038OC; Thu, 13 Apr 95 14:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: CAN I UNERASE A DELETED MESSAGE ? Date: 12 Apr 1995 20:16:05 GMT Message-Id: <3mhce5$db5@grape.epix.net> References: <3m8qe2$kum@ankh.iia.org> Curious (curious@ios.com) wrote: : Could you tell me HOW to UNERASE a 'deleted message' from my PINE mailer ? You can only do it BEFORE you quit PINE. If I recall, the delete command is d, the undelete command is u. That's why when you go to quit you get a prompt something like 'expunge the 4 deleted messages from inbox? Y/N?. If you answer Y it quits, and they're gone. If you answer N, they are not deleted, but they are still marked to delete, and the same thing will happen again next time you try to quit. Once they're gone, they're gone, UNIX does not have an 'undelete' command, as does DOS for example. BYE DearOldDad /~~~/~~~/~~~/\ /\/\ /\ / / / / \/\/ POCONO MTNS PA DearOldDad:The older I get, the smarter I used to be./ \/\jgvd@epix.net Jonathan:Kids are people too; Have guitar, will travel.\ \/\ \ /\ \ Thought for the day: / / / / / / \/ \ \/ \/\ Never get so open-minded that your brains fall out.__/___/____\/____\_\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 17:20:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15327; Thu, 13 Apr 95 17:20:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04717; Thu, 13 Apr 95 17:11:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04711; Thu, 13 Apr 95 17:11:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzYpj-00038OC; Thu, 13 Apr 95 17:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: drambo@primenet.com (Dawson E. Rambo) Subject: Newbie Question Date: 13 Apr 1995 18:16:22 GMT Message-Id: <3mjppm$fpm@news.primenet.com> Hiya...have a question. I have two email addresses on different systems, and am currently using a .foward file to send messages from the one I use rarely to the one I use every day. What I want to know, is there another type of file that will transparantly only COPY the message to my current .foward address while leaving it still at the original site? I read a FAQ or two and didn't see this addressed... :) TIA, Daws -- ---- Dawson E. Rambo drambo@cloud9.net drambo@primenet.com "Commit random acts of senseless mirth." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 20:07:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20654; Thu, 13 Apr 95 20:07:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12559; Thu, 13 Apr 95 20:01:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12553; Thu, 13 Apr 95 20:01:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzba6-00038TC; Thu, 13 Apr 95 19:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nsheth@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu (Nischal Sheth) Subject: TakeAddr Command Message-Id: Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 10:20:23 GMT Is there any way to force pine to search the entire message and not just the headers when the TakeAddr command (T) is issued. This could be quite useful when I receive email addresses of people as part of a message. Thanks, Nischal. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 21:11:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22276; Thu, 13 Apr 95 21:11:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13289; Thu, 13 Apr 95 21:02:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from balder.ssds.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13283; Thu, 13 Apr 95 21:02:49 -0700 Received: (from mail@localhost) by balder.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) id WAA20367 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 22:00:50 -0600 Received: from denver(134.127.16.1) by balder via smap (V1.3) id sma020365; Thu Apr 13 22:00:40 1995 Received: from chicago.ssds.com (chicago.ssds.com [134.127.26.1]) by denver.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) with ESMTP id WAA03623 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 22:00:39 -0600 Received: (from jew@localhost) by chicago.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-site) id XAA24947; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 23:00:38 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 22:59:50 -0500 (CDT) From: James Weaver - Chicago Subject: unsubscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 21:39:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22820; Thu, 13 Apr 95 21:39:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09003; Thu, 13 Apr 95 21:31:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08997; Thu, 13 Apr 95 21:31:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzcv9-00038OC; Thu, 13 Apr 95 21:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: pine startup In-Reply-To: Joseph H Greenwald's message of Fri, 31 Mar 1995 11: 23:33 -0500 Message-Id: References: Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:19:04 GMT In article Joseph H Greenwald writes: How do I make pine startup by opening my INBOX? I'm on an SGI running pine 3.91 Try pine -Ii or pine -Ii,v -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 14 00:39:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26519; Fri, 14 Apr 95 00:39:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15684; Fri, 14 Apr 95 00:33:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15678; Fri, 14 Apr 95 00:33:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzfnJ-00038RC; Fri, 14 Apr 95 00:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Mann Subject: Help! Missing Newsgroups Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 18:11:37 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can anyone tell me why I am able to read some newsgroups, but not others? I was able to read alt.cad.autocad and alt.architucture until recently, but now pine tells me "No state for newsgroup found, reading as new". I have several other newsgroups that still read o.k., so I assume there is a problem with these groups. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Pete From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 14 01:08:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27359; Fri, 14 Apr 95 01:08:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11836; Fri, 14 Apr 95 01:03:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11830; Fri, 14 Apr 95 01:03:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzgCb-00038OC; Fri, 14 Apr 95 00:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chenhui Feng Subject: Want an easy way to edit address book. Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 19:14:23 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I think I've read similar questions before, but I can't remember the answer. I really want to know if there is an easier way to maintain my address book. Say, I have a file with a bunch of e-mail address in it, how can I add them into my address book? Using editor doesn't work. It seems the address book for 'pine' has some special format not just plain text. Also if I want to add someone's address to an existing list, what else can I do instead of typing them one by one? Thanks a lot in advance. Chen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 14 01:29:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27880; Fri, 14 Apr 95 01:29:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16308; Fri, 14 Apr 95 01:22:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16302; Fri, 14 Apr 95 01:22:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzgWK-00038RC; Fri, 14 Apr 95 01:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: Newbie Question Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 00:10:08 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3mjppm$fpm@news.primenet.com> On 13 Apr 1995, Dawson E. Rambo wrote: > Hiya...have a question. I have two email addresses on different systems, > and am currently using a .foward file to send messages from the one I use > rarely to the one I use every day. What I want to know, is there another > type of file that will transparantly only COPY the message to my current > .foward address while leaving it still at the original site? > > I read a FAQ or two and didn't see this addressed... :) Where you *should* look is under the manpages for sendmail. The .forward is a function of sendmail, not pine. Anyway, you can do a lot with a .forward. I think what you want is to change your .forward from: drambo@primenet.com to something like this: \drambo, drambo@primenet.com If this is installed on your cloud9 account, then a copy will be kept in the INBOX for drambo@cloud9.com (\drambo) and another copy sent to drambo@primenet.com (drambo@primenet.com). A copy of the relevant section of the manpages for sendmail follows: Ian Ollmann [Quote:] FORWARDING MAIL USING SENDMAIL As a personal alternative to aliasing, a user may put a file with the name .forward in his home directory. If this file exists, sendmail redirects mail for that user to the list of recipients in the .forward file. The recipients listed in the .forward file may be separated by commas or new-lines. Programs and files are valid recipients. For example, if user ``jane'' has a .forward file containing: jd@company.com /usr/tmp/mail.log |/usr/local/bin/mymailer sendmail will redirect all incoming messages for ``jane'' to ``jd@company.com'', append a copy of the message to the file /usr/tmp/mail.log (if it has o+w permissions) and pipe a copy of the mes- sage to standard input of /usr/local/bin/mymailer. The user may redirect -> mail to himself in addition to sending it on to other destinations. This -> is particularly useful in the event that the user wishes to continue to -> receive mail in his own mailbox while passing copies of each incoming -> message on to some alternative destination. For example, if the home directory for user ``john'' contains a .forward file with contents: \john, "|/usr/sbin/vacation john" sendmail will append each incoming message to ``john'''s regular mailbox and send a copy of each message to the /usr/sbin/vacation program. [Unquote:] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 14 02:58:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29691; Fri, 14 Apr 95 02:58:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13317; Fri, 14 Apr 95 02:52:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13311; Fri, 14 Apr 95 02:52:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzhyA-00038QC; Fri, 14 Apr 95 02:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Dr. Douglas Arnold" Subject: pgp and pine 3.91 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:45:26 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The development info www page says that the current version of Pine is 3.90 and that future versions will include PEM (whatever that is) and/or PGP support. I seem to be using version 3.91. Is it possible that I have access to PGP and don't know it? Since this is probably too good to be true, Is there a simple way to increase privacy on a UNIX-based multiuser system? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 14 05:00:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03359; Fri, 14 Apr 95 05:00:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18819; Fri, 14 Apr 95 04:52:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18813; Fri, 14 Apr 95 04:52:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzjpN-00038SC; Fri, 14 Apr 95 04:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Accessing new mail from MH folders? Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:38:51 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3mcb4b$np0@fsuj01.rz.uni-jena.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3mcb4b$np0@fsuj01.rz.uni-jena.de> Hello. Please use the name #mhinbox instead of #mh/inbox #mhinbox is a special name which will copy new mail from the /usr/spool/mail file into your MH folder. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" (est.) On 10 Apr 1995, Uwe Richter wrote: > > Hello, does anybody know how I can access new mails from > the mail spool directory via the "#mh" switch as a remote > MH folder. > If I try "{imap-server}#mh/INBOX" only the existing mails (that > were read previously) are seen, but no new mails. > > On the other side, if I set the incoming-folder to > "{imap-server}INBOX" new mails are seen but an error is > returned while saving read mails into a remote MH folder. > A directory is created, but no mail file can be written. > > ---------------debugging-------------- > .. > ---- QUIT SCREEN ---- > expunge and close mail stream "{paxp02.mipool.uni-jena.de}INBOX" > q_status_message, Count 1, "Closing "INBOX"..." > output_message(Closing "INBOX"...) > STATUS cmd:120, disp:1, length:0, max:1, min0IMAP DEBUG: A00009 SEARCH SEEN UNDELETED > IMAP DEBUG: * SEARCH 1 > IMAP DEBUG: A00009 OK SEARCH completed > IMAP DEBUG: A00010 COPY 1 #mh/read-messages > IMAP DEBUG: * OK [TRYCREATE] Must create mailbox before copy > IMAP mm_notify NIL : {paxp02.mipool.uni-jena.de}INBOX : [TRYCREATE] Must create mailbox before copy > IMAP DEBUG: A00010 NO COPY failed: No such destination mailbox > IMAP 0:19 4/11 mm_log ERROR: COPY failed: No such destination mailbox > prev_col: 0, prev_end:3, top_column:24 spacing:22 > 0 (null) (null) 0 > 1 ^C Cancel 0 > 2 Y [Yes] 23 > 3 N No 23 > 4 (null) (null) 46 > 5 (null) (null) 46 > 6 (null) (null) 68 > 7 (null) (null) 68 > 8 (null) (null) 90 > 9 (null) (null) 90 > 11 (null) (null) 112 > row: -2, real_row: 22, column: 0 > Select readfds:1 timeval:0,0 > Select on tty returned 1 > Read returned 1 > Read char returning: 121 y > Want_to read: y (121) > IMAP DEBUG: A00011 Create #mh/read-messages > IMAP DEBUG: A00011 OK CREATE completed > IMAP 0:19 4/11 mm_log babble: CREATE completed > IMAP DEBUG: A00012 COPY 1 #mh/read-messages > IMAP DEBUG: * OK [TRYCREATE] Must create mailbox before copy > IMAP mm_notify NIL : {paxp02.mipool.uni-jena.de}INBOX : [TRYCREATE] Must create mailbox before copy > IMAP DEBUG: A00012 NO COPY failed: No such destination mailbox > IMAP 0:19 4/11 mm_log ERROR: COPY failed: No such destination mailbox > q_status_message, Count 1, "Unable to save 1 read messages to read-messages" > ---------------debugging-------------- > > > Many thanks in advance. > > Uwe > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 14 05:54:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04364; Fri, 14 Apr 95 05:54:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15764; Fri, 14 Apr 95 05:41:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ousrvr.oulu.fi by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15758; Fri, 14 Apr 95 05:40:59 -0700 Received: from paju.oulu.fi by oulu.fi (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14471; Fri, 14 Apr 95 15:40:57 +0300 Received: by paju.oulu.fi (950215.SGI.8.6.10/930416.SGI.AUTO) id PAA14422; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 15:40:55 +0300 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 15:40:53 +0300 (EDT) From: Marko Hotti To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: 8bit vs QP (Re: No MIME) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Mon, 10 Apr 1995, Arthur Teschler wrote: > If the 8th bit is delivered correct and not cut off by some stupid gatewa= ys, > there is no need to put an ordinary ISO-8859-X text into 'quoted-printabl= e'. > I'd like to turn that off, too. Same here. MIME Quoted-Printable causes lots of problems here in Finland,= =20 too. Pine is an excellent and versatile program but has caused lots of=20 irritation here because of the =3DE4 etc. characters that get in the messag= es. 8bit characters are handled properly but QP is not. > I can see the use of m[un]pack when sending pics, sound-files or similar, > but an ordinary letter containing Umlauts should not end up in a rather > unreadable thing with =3D made into =3D3D, end-of-lines looking like =3D2= 0, lines > broken up at different positions than I intended or other ugly things. I share this opinion. The most serious computing professionals don't like Pine at all because it just can't handle our special letters (=E4=F6=E5=DF = etc)=20 in a way that is compatible with rest of our software. -Marko- M a r k o H o t t i=09 E-Mail : Marko.Hotti@oulu.fi University of Oulu WWW URL: http://phoenix.oulu.fi/~mhotti/ Faculty of Medicine SMail : Tervontie 4 C 11, FIN-90230 OULU ___________________________________________________________________________= ___ -Matrimony isn't a word, it's a sentence. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 14 09:41:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11093; Fri, 14 Apr 95 09:41:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22830; Fri, 14 Apr 95 09:34:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22823; Fri, 14 Apr 95 09:34:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzo9G-00038RC; Fri, 14 Apr 95 09:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: safe pine Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 02:25:27 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 11 Apr 1995, Hans Klunder wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to setup a postoffice in which my users get pine as their default > shell. However, I want to disable shell escapes and printing. > > Is this possible with 3.91 or do I need to hack the code myself ? > > Thanks in advance, > > Hans Usually, you can re-alias whatever command it is which brings up an empty shell to something which includes an automatic first command to be executed within that shell. This command can be /usr/bin/pine or perhaps a shell script to set a few environment variables first and then starts up pine. The actual implementation of this is somewhat system specific as how different OS's deal with windows/menus/etc is different. However, if you can find the default file is for defining the format and function of whatever tool the user uses to call forth his shell, you can modify it to do whatever you deem necessary. For example, in IRIX 4.0.5 on a silicon graphics machine, /usr/lib/X11/system.chestrc defines the contents and function of the main set of pulldown menus, from which the user gets new shells. From the pulldown menu, Tools, the user can select "Shell" to get a new shell. You can change /usr/lib/X11/system.chestrc from: ... Menu Tools { "Shell" f.checkexec "/usr/sbin/winterm" "Manual Pages" f.checkexec "/usr/bin/X11/xman" "Release Notes" f.checkexec "/usr/sbin/grelnotes" (more stuff...) } ... to something which looks like this: ... Menu Tools { "Shell" f.checkexec "/usr/sbin/winterm -c /bin/csh -c /usr/bin/pine" "Manual Pages" f.checkexec "/usr/bin/X11/xman" "Release Notes" f.checkexec "/usr/sbin/grelnotes" (more stuff...) } ... The -c option for winterm, rsh or csh is common for use to feed the rest of the line in as the first command to be executed by the new cshell or in the winterm. You will find that pine doesn't work very well without environment variables such as MAIL set, so you may wish to replace "/usr/bin/pine", above, with the path to a small shell script which defines the necessary environment variables. The last command in this shell script can be /usr/bin/pine (or equivalent). In have no idea how to deal with the problem of handling user login. Perhaps it can be dealt with within the confines of the shell script. You probably don't want users to be able to read each other's mail, do you? When using a setup like this, when I exit pine, the window closes itself automatically. (I didn't have to do anything or include any special commands for this to happen). So, shell escapes may not be a problem for you. As to how to disable printing, I'm not sure whether it is best to make a small hack to pine or just set up pine with an incorrect printing command and hope that users aren't savvy enough to figure out how to edit their own .pinerc to fix the problem. Good luck. Ian Ollmann From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 14 09:45:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11290; Fri, 14 Apr 95 09:45:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19966; Fri, 14 Apr 95 09:34:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19960; Fri, 14 Apr 95 09:34:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzo95-00038OC; Fri, 14 Apr 95 09:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 slow on opening INBOX ? Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 01:33:32 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3mbsf7$bnt@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> On 10 Apr 1995, jeff sumler wrote: ; In article , ; Matthew Black wrote: ; >In article <3m76c1$opv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> jsumler@bach.ucs.indiana.edu (jeff sumler) writes: > >>Hi-- ; >>I recall seeing sporadic threads about this problem a few months ago, ; >>but unfortunately I didn't save any of the posts. We've recently ; >>upgraded to pine 3.91 (HPUX 10, Ultrix 4.4, OSF/1 2.1) and on all ; >>platforms it appears that the new version requires much more time to ; >>open a user's INBOX than did 3.89. Since this problem is occurring ; > ; > ; >This problem occurs sporadically at our site. It only seems to happen when ; >our NNTP server goes/slows down. ; >--matt ; ; Several other people have sent me mail with similar stories. None of the ; hosts in question here have declared nntp servers in pine.conf, so the ; problem we're seeing is not related to delays in opening a connection to ; a nntp server. Any other suggestions would be welcome . . . . This is kindof obvious, but there is a marked slowdown if the user's inbox is really large -- say, for example, he/she never deletes any mail. We have had users that receive entire newspapers as mail every day and never delete any of them. The inbox can grow to be several MB in a few months. We have also had this slowdown problem when our NNTPSERVER goes down. The user can also declare an NNTPSERVER in .pinerc. Pine-help is sufficiently detailed for many to do this themselves. Ian {SGI 4D/35, IRIX 4.0.5} From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 14 11:00:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14113; Fri, 14 Apr 95 11:00:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24430; Fri, 14 Apr 95 10:54:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24423; Fri, 14 Apr 95 10:54:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzpPC-00038OC; Fri, 14 Apr 95 10:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: peterlin@biofiz.mf.uni-lj.si (Primoz Peterlin) Subject: Pine International: CP852 <-> ISO-8859-2 Message-Id: <1995Apr12.122427.22@animus.mf.uni-lj.si> Date: 12 Apr 95 12:24:26 +0100 Hello everybody! In Pine Technical Notes, section "International Character Sets", it states that PC-Pine supports translation from for several Latin character sets (CP850, CP860, CP863 and CP865 to ISO-8859-1 and vice versa), as well for the Cyrillic (CP866 to ISO-8859-5). Is the same support built-in also for Latin-2, ie. is it only the question of correct ISO_TO_CP and CP_TO_ISO tables, or are there any changes in the main program neccessary? Best regards, Primoz. -- Primoz Peterlin (peterlin@biofiz.mf.uni-lj.si) Fax:+386-61-131-51-27 Institut za biofiziko MF, Lipiceva 2, SLO-61105 Ljubljana, Slovenija From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 14 11:02:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14222; Fri, 14 Apr 95 11:02:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21845; Fri, 14 Apr 95 10:58:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21839; Fri, 14 Apr 95 10:58:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzpQt-00038QC; Fri, 14 Apr 95 10:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rakesh@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw Subject: Some problems being faced in PINE 3.91 under VMS Message-Id: <1995Apr12.134937.410@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 95 10:49:21 GMT Sorry to bother you all on this group. I recently installed PINE 3.91 under VMS 5.5-2 & UCX 2.0E, which I got from VMS.HUJI.AC.IL. It is a wonderful package & lot of effort has been done to port it to VMS. In genearal it works fine for me but I am facing some problems described as under: 1. Creating of mail message, attaching a GIF or PS file & sending it works fine On receiving end, I can receive normal text mail & also GIF attachments (sent by PINE & encoded in BASE64) but retrieving .PS attachment gives message "Don't know how to display attachment Apllication/POSTSCRIPT". I created a .mailcap file with following entries: Application/POSTSCRIPT; gv %s; application/postscript; gv %s; I have ghostscript & ghostscript on my site & I can use GV to view .PS files outside PINE. Is it possible that MAILCAP facility is not implemented in VMS port. I compiled PINE with DEBUG & default debug 9. In debug files it only shows entries for mailcap_free & not for mc_init, mailcap: process_file ,mc_get_entry etc which are routines for building the mailcap entries in memory (possibly). From this it seems that PINE ( VMS port) does not support mailcap facility (Kindly correct me if I am wrong & let me know where am I making mistake -- may be format of entries in my .mailcap file is incorrect). 2. I have no luck with NEWS also, though I have declared nntp_server as my machine kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw (which is an NNTP server which we are using locally). When, I go to list of folders under PINE, it shows me: News-collection (Remote) [ ** Empty List ** Select Here to Try Re-expanding] [Now in collection ] Attempt to add any group which I read regularly (by FNEWS program which is an NEWS client on our own machine), says [News Group doesn't exist] If I try to match All Grps it says [No groups to select from!] The following messages are logged into .PINE-DEBUG1 nntp-server : kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw is_list: name=nntp-server nntp-server : kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw nntp-server : kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw Context *{kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw/nntp}[] type: REMOTE BBOARD OLDTECH ***** context *{kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw/nntp}[] find_folders_in_context: *{kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw/nntp}[] find_folders: mail_open(*{kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw/nntp}) FAILED. Can some body suggest me why all these messages & why the list of news groups is empty even though I use FNEWS happily ? Do I need to create .newsrc or newsrc. file manually & what is format for the entries in it? 3. Though I am able to send/receive mail using PINE by setting logical name PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL as SMTP but if I define smtp_server as our machine (kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw & deassign PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL), I get message: [Error connecting to mail server: ] What is the difference between the above two mechanisms (ie defining PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL but no SMTP_SERVER & not defining PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL but setting smtp_server)? Why the first mechanism works but the second does not work (even though TELNET KUC01.KUNIV.EDU.KW 25 works fine & I am able to log into SMTP interactively)? 4. I could not find a way in PINE (possibly did not read documentation carefully) to select only some mail items in a mail folder based on date,from etc? Under VMS mail, this can be done by DIR/SINCE,DIR/FROM etc. Can some body suggest, how can I achive this in PINE? 5. Is there any way in PINE by which I can send mail to user on my machine with out using SMTP (ie all local mail to be handled by VMSMAIL)? In .PINE-DEBUG1 I find the following settings: Local Domain name being used "" Host name being used "" Mail Domain name being used (by c-client too) "kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw" Why Local Domain name & Host name are "" & can this will cause all mail to go via SMTP rather than VMSMAIL? If yes, how can I correct this situation? I have defined user-domain as kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw in my .pinerc file. 6. I see the following information in .pinerc-debug1: Context SYS[] type: LOCAL Context *{kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw/nntp}[] type: REMOTE BBOARD OLDTECH ***** context SYS[] LABEL: SYS[] 1) NEWMAIL ***** context *{kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw/nntp}[] LABEL: News on kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw Where can I find the details on the format of these context & LABEL information? What do type: BBOARD OLDTECH mean in case of Context *{kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw/nntp}[] I am really very sorry for such a long post but I am looking forward to get solutions for my problems from you experienced PINE users on net. You can reply me on my E-mail address also: rakesh@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw Thanks a lot in advance. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 14 12:22:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18080; Fri, 14 Apr 95 12:22:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26217; Fri, 14 Apr 95 12:13:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26211; Fri, 14 Apr 95 12:13:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzqd6-00038SC; Fri, 14 Apr 95 12:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul R. Weber" Subject: test Date: 14 Apr 1995 17:55:42 GMT Message-Id: <3mmcuu$igq@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit this is a test From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 14 14:08:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22889; Fri, 14 Apr 95 14:08:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28640; Fri, 14 Apr 95 14:01:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28626; Fri, 14 Apr 95 14:01:44 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01676; Fri, 14 Apr 95 14:01:29 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 14:01:25 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Sean Dougherty Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: Re: pine user guide In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There is a "Getting Started" manual available from ftp.cac.washington.edu in the pine/docs directory... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 13 Apr 1995, Sean Dougherty wrote: > Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 04:24:53 GMT > From: Sean Dougherty > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: pine user guide > > Richard C. Gaine (rgaine@pilot.njin.net) wrote: > > : At our cite, we would like to make pine the standard mailer. I would > : like to know if there is a brochure type user guide for pine avaliable. > : Does this exist? if so, where can I get it? > > : Rick Gaine > : Systems Administrator > : rgaine@pilot.njin.net > > We never found one, and wound up writing our own. It is big though 11M > postscript file. I can send you the first 8 pages if you want to see if > it is something you can use. > > If you can use it, I can send you the original WP 5.1 document. All > we > ask is that Texas Tech University HSC Amarillo, Sean Dougherty, and Kim > Andersen are mentioned somewhere in your final document. > > sean > HEAD COMPUTER GEEK > TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY HSC AMARILLO > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 14 14:08:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22950; Fri, 14 Apr 95 14:08:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28680; Fri, 14 Apr 95 14:02:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28674; Fri, 14 Apr 95 14:02:47 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01765; Fri, 14 Apr 95 14:02:41 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 14:02:39 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Right Said Fred Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: One more question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine does not automatically erase (expire) newsgroup messages, your News server does that... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 10 Apr 1995, Right Said Fred wrote: > Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 14:40:13 -0400 > From: Right Said Fred > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: One more question > > Hi, All! My PINE seems to be erasing the messages from the newsgroups > one week after they are posted. Does anybody know how I can change > it? > > Thanks > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 14 14:16:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23449; Fri, 14 Apr 95 14:16:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26740; Fri, 14 Apr 95 14:11:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26734; Fri, 14 Apr 95 14:11:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzsRZ-00038SC; Fri, 14 Apr 95 13:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sotas@aol.com (SOTAS) Subject: Re: Pine System with Procomm Date: 14 Apr 1995 10:13:17 -0400 Message-Id: <3mlvtt$odf@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <950413000209_81485213@aol.com> Sounds like you have a terminal emulation problem. Most of these unix boxes support vt100 or vt220 terminal emulation which PineMail does not have a problem with. You would probably set Procomm to use vt100 or vt220. The host machine should prompt Lisa for a terminal type when she logs on. Hope this helps. Aaron Diehl, Sotas, Inc. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 14 18:03:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02249; Fri, 14 Apr 95 18:03:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03505; Fri, 14 Apr 95 18:00:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03499; Fri, 14 Apr 95 18:00:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzw1u-00038OC; Fri, 14 Apr 95 17:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Folder locking and various mail folder readers Date: 14 Apr 1995 17:16:00 GMT Message-Id: <3mmakg$a0r@news1.halcyon.com> I'm updating the Filtering Mail FAQ and I'd like to include a section on folder locking. I've included this pointer to the Pine FAQ on locking, which has generally useful information: http://www.cac.washington.edu:1180/pine/faq/errors.html#locking I'd also like to include information about lock files uses by various mailers (and newsreaders that can read mail folders). This information is useful because some mail processors, like procmail, allow you to specify the lock file name. Procmail's default lock file name is folder.lock, which I think works for most mailers but I'm not sure. Please send me info to help me fill in this table, and any other info that would be useful to include in the FAQ. Mailer or Newsreader Lock File Name ==================== ============== elm ??? emacs mail mode ??? mail ??? mh ??? mush ??? nn pine folder.lock trn ??? Thanks much, Nancy -- /\_/\ @..@ /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) http://www.halcyon.com/nancym/ ( o.o ) > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 14 19:23:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04123; Fri, 14 Apr 95 19:23:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04524; Fri, 14 Apr 95 19:20:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from efn.org by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04518; Fri, 14 Apr 95 19:20:22 -0700 Received: by efn.efn.org (4.1/smail2.5/05-07-92) id AA02015; Fri, 14 Apr 95 19:20:19 PDT Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 19:20:18 -0700 (PDT) From: The Guy To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: newsgroup question in 3.91 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, how can I post a folloup article to a post in a newsgroup ? When I press C it took me as if I wanted to post a NEW article... Thanks for your help. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 14 19:59:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05123; Fri, 14 Apr 95 19:59:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04948; Fri, 14 Apr 95 19:53:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04942; Fri, 14 Apr 95 19:53:43 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10691; Fri, 14 Apr 95 19:53:42 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 19:53:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Dr. Douglas Arnold" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pgp and pine 3.91 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The web page is a bit out of date... 3.91 does not have any pgp support, but 3.92 will have hooks to enable pgp use. (Sorry, no date for 3.92 yet) -teg On Tue, 11 Apr 1995, Dr. Douglas Arnold wrote: > > The development info www page says that the current version of Pine is > 3.90 and that future versions will include PEM (whatever that is) and/or > PGP support. I seem to be using version 3.91. Is it possible that I > have access to PGP and don't know it? > > Since this is probably too good to be true, Is there a simple way to > increase privacy on a UNIX-based multiuser system? > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 14 20:11:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05475; Fri, 14 Apr 95 20:11:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03720; Fri, 14 Apr 95 20:05:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03712; Fri, 14 Apr 95 20:05:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzxzy-00038OC; Fri, 14 Apr 95 19:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mark C." Subject: Re: Pine and listservs Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 09:27:29 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I've tried to get pine to show the listserv name as well, but no luck. I did, however, start using Filter, following the instructions in the excellent faq that is out there, and now all of my listservs get sorted into folders. It's great. And I have no technical skills, and it still worked. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 14 20:17:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05767; Fri, 14 Apr 95 20:17:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05207; Fri, 14 Apr 95 20:14:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05201; Fri, 14 Apr 95 20:14:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzyB8-00038QC; Fri, 14 Apr 95 20:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Running pine/pico in restricted shell Date: 15 Apr 95 02:30:11 GMT Message-Id: I am helping someone setup a menued system on a Solaris 2.3 machine, using rsh to keep the users from getting too carried away. We have all sorts of things working, but have hit the wall with spellchecking in pine and pico. Even though I recompiled pico with the SPELLER variable set to spell rather than /usr/bin/spell, when P_open() calls sysstem() the path is being prepended, and /usr/local/rbin/rsh pukes because of the /'s. Before I reimplement some of this to avoid having path prepended, has anyone done something similar? Or got any better ideas? Thank you. Stew -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 14 21:33:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07417; Fri, 14 Apr 95 21:33:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04827; Fri, 14 Apr 95 21:28:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04821; Fri, 14 Apr 95 21:28:39 -0700 Received: (from rgaine@localhost) by pilot.njin.net (8.6.10+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq+grosshack/8.6.10) id AAA26725; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 00:28:32 -0400 Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 00:28:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pcpine_w with WIN 3.11 for Workgroups Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Will PCPINE_W work with Windows for Workgroups rather then Windows with WINSOCKB? If now, will a version be avaliable? Rick Gaine. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 14 22:25:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08619; Fri, 14 Apr 95 22:25:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05602; Fri, 14 Apr 95 22:19:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05596; Fri, 14 Apr 95 22:19:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s007n-00038QC; Fri, 14 Apr 95 22:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matthew Black Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 slow on opening INBOX ? Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 08:03:32 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On the issue of why PINE is slow to startup... On Wed, 12 Apr 1995, Ian Russell Ollmann wrote: > On 10 Apr 1995, jeff sumler wrote: > ; Several other people have sent me mail with similar stories. None of the > ; hosts in question here have declared nntp servers in pine.conf, so the > ; problem we're seeing is not related to delays in opening a connection to > ; a nntp server. Any other suggestions would be welcome . . . . > > This is kindof obvious, but there is a marked slowdown if the user's > inbox is really large -- say, for example, he/she never deletes any mail. > We have had users that receive entire newspapers as mail every day and > never delete any of them. The inbox can grow to be several MB in a few > months. We have also had this slowdown problem when our NNTPSERVER goes > down. The user can also declare an NNTPSERVER in .pinerc. Pine-help is > sufficiently detailed for many to do this themselves. If you build pine with the mbox driver, then all user mail is immediately copied to ~/mbox upon invocation. Pine was built on my system with: ./build sgi EXTRADRIVERS=mbox Now mail accumulates in the user's home directory rather than the mail spool...unless they use Eudora which allows users to keep mail in the spool. --matt ============================================================================ matthew black, systems analyst | opinions expressed herein are mine and california state university | may not reflect those of my employer cecs department | long beach, ca 90840 | email: black@csulb.edu =============================(c) 1995 by Matthew Black, all rights reserved= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 14 22:54:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09351; Fri, 14 Apr 95 22:54:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07011; Fri, 14 Apr 95 22:47:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07005; Fri, 14 Apr 95 22:47:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s00Vc-00038QC; Fri, 14 Apr 95 22:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tompkins@earth.cnct.com (tompkins) Subject: Re: pine user guide Date: 14 Apr 1995 05:26:45 GMT Message-Id: <3ml12l$jpi@mars.cnct.com> References: The Pine documentaion can be found at ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine. Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 14 23:42:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10299; Fri, 14 Apr 95 23:42:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06636; Fri, 14 Apr 95 23:36:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06630; Fri, 14 Apr 95 23:35:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s01GC-00038QC; Fri, 14 Apr 95 23:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tompkins@earth.cnct.com (tompkins) Subject: Re: Pine and mail filtering! Date: 14 Apr 1995 05:47:13 GMT Message-Id: <3ml291$jpi@mars.cnct.com> References: <3mfc2g$min@pangea.ohionet.org> Phrakr Trakr (kstewart@sol.ashland.edu) wrote : I was wondering. Is it possible to filter mail from your INBOX to : different "inboxes"? For instance. I receive alot of mail from the : localhost "ashland.edu" can I filter that mail into a "ashland" box? : Could I filter @aol" mail into another box? If so please tell me how, I : think it would help me clean up the clutter! Yes, there is a way. First you go to configure and enable the aggregate command option. Then you use the following commands: Select ';' (the semi-colon is the select command) Text All text key in ashland.edu Apply 'a' (means the following command applies to all selected mail) Save key in name of the ashland box Apply 'a' Delete I have a PC and a communications package that allows disk capture. Instead of saving to another box, I use the export command after the apply. This exports selected mail to a file in my directory. Then I exit Pine and enter the shell. I turn on my capture buffer and use the Unix cat command to transfer all mail to there. I then read the mail after signing off. Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 15 03:37:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15709; Sat, 15 Apr 95 03:37:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10117; Sat, 15 Apr 95 03:34:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10111; Sat, 15 Apr 95 03:34:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s04xI-00038RC; Sat, 15 Apr 95 03:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bob Brody Subject: Pine and listservs Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 13:00:06 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On some services (sans Pine) the email reader lists received listserv mail via listserv name and subject whereas Pine lists mail by individual's name and subject. 'Just wondering if anyone's reading listservs through Pine and perchance has figured a way to list them via listserv. I liked seeing pending listserv mail listed by the listserv, it was much easier to discern and/or sort. E.g., Apr 10 xyz-l moving along Apr 11 abc-l back to the future and so on, versus Pine: Apr 10 Tom Sawyer moving along Apr 11 Peggy Smith back to the future &c. Anyway, no biggie, just curious if anyone's approached this. When subscribed to a few or more listservs, especially busy ones, I found it faster going to see the source of the mail, i.e., the listserv, listed rather than the person's name. bob brody@primenet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 15 04:31:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17261; Sat, 15 Apr 95 04:31:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10579; Sat, 15 Apr 95 04:28:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10573; Sat, 15 Apr 95 04:28:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s05m3-000395C; Sat, 15 Apr 95 04:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Unauthorized System User Subject: Re: Stripped addresses and IMAP clients Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 20:12:25 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 9 Apr 1995, John Gardiner Myers wrote: > This is not as serious a problem as taking messages that arrived from > the network and changing them such that they no longer conform to 822, > which a previous message from you indicated that zmailer did. I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear, but the mail which started this thread was composed by Pine (thus the full address) but delivered locally. (I was reading it remotely). However, since delivery was local, zmailer took the full address which Pine created and rewrote it to resemble mail that had been composed by a different MUA which does not bother to complete local addresses. Apologies for the misunderstanding. Zmailer works fine when presented with addresses that have arrived over the network. Its aggressive rewriting of a local address started this. > > My question now is: should the IMAP client be saving the message with > > the qualified address, so that information does not get lost? > > The IMAP server should not be modifying the content of the messages it > hands out. In this situation, it has been given a message with > addresses which do not conform to 822. It can interpret them the best > it can, for purposes of computing the IMAP4 ENVELOPE data item, but it > should not make a bad situation worse by trying to rewrite the > headers. Okay, the server has given out an address and enough additional information for the IMAP client to compose a proper reply, so long as the message is being read from the server and the additional information provided by this IMAP server (in the form of hostname) is available. But as soon as I make a copy of that message from the remote IMAP server, via my local IMAP client, to a local filesystem, or presumably, to a different remote IMAP server, the additional hostname information as provided by the IMAP server from which the message was read, which is needed to properly complete a reply to the message, is lost, or replaced with the different remote IMAP server's hostname when I read the transferred copy of the original message. If the client receives data for which the additional hostname is required for generating correct replies, and the client is asked to store the message elsewhere, should the client then decide to attempt to preserve this hostname information by rewriting the headers, which are going to be meaningless anyway when the context of the IMAP server from which they were retrieved is lost? (Or doesn't this make sense yet?) It's not an ideal situation, but perhaps it would help to make a bad situation (non- 822 addresses) better (non-822 addresses qualified with the hostname from which they were read)... > > And would > > it be a good idea for the various sendmail rewriting rules to provide the > > full address as a default, even for messages delivered locally, in case > > those messages are accessed remotely and transferred to another machine? > > Yes, it would be a very good idea. In sendmail v8, you can do this by > putting FEATURE(always_add_domain) in the mc file you use to generate > the cf file. > > As you seem to have found out, in today's environments, "local" > information tends not to stay local. Addresses should be sent in > fully-qualified network-standard form. Having not personally had experience with out-of-the-box configurations for sendmail or any of its popular replacements, I can only guess that the average sysadmin would not bother to do this if it is not the default, and I surmise it is not the default for the majority of configurations of different versions (BSD v8, IDA, Smail, zmailer, and any others I've left out). Thus, I'm introducing this to comp.mail.sendmail, knowing that v8.7 is under construction, so that perhaps Eric Allman might consider supplying this in the default configuration for the new release. I believe the reason that JustSend8 mail works successfully in so many cases is due to the supplied default of stripping mail to 7 bits set to False, and most sysadmins would not bother to change this, and similarly wouldn't make the effort to unqualify addresses for local delivery either, being more interested in simply plugging in the local information and trying to run with that. If I were really gung-ho about this, I'd bring it up back in the original zmailer discussion group, as well as introduce it in comp.mail.smail, but one step at a time for now... > -- > _.John G. Myers Internet: jgm+@CMU.EDU > LoseNet: ...!seismo!ihnp4!wiscvm.wisc.edu!give!up Barry Bouwsma (ignore the From: field of this newspost) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 15 07:25:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20170; Sat, 15 Apr 95 07:25:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12524; Sat, 15 Apr 95 07:21:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12518; Sat, 15 Apr 95 07:20:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s08V6-00038WC; Sat, 15 Apr 95 07:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kovler@smart.net (Ken Kovler) Subject: Re: PICO and HTML files Date: 14 Apr 1995 20:25:54 -0400 Message-Id: <3mn3qi$rd8@smarty.smart.net> References: <3mjke4$ea9@apollo.it.luc.edu> Michael D. Lambrecht (mlambre@orion.it.luc.edu) wrote: : I am a newbie to PINE and would like to publish a Home Page on the Web. : I would like to use HTML and put it into a PICO file, then out into the : web. I used pico to compose and edit my own web page. It is easy. Just type " pico" and when your done type "control x" and give it a name with an HTML extension. -- | 0 0 | "Keep Smiling" //\\ Ken \\//[http://www.smart.net/~kovler] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 15 11:22:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24548; Sat, 15 Apr 95 11:22:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15011; Sat, 15 Apr 95 11:18:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15005; Sat, 15 Apr 95 11:18:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s0CGp-00038QC; Sat, 15 Apr 95 11:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jwsnyder@email.unc.edu (J. William Snyder Jr.) Subject: HELP: getting PINE to send mail in Linux Date: 15 Apr 95 17:13:01 GMT Message-Id: Sorry if this is an FAQ, but none of the FAQ's I have read have been able to help. Last night I installed the "N" slackware diskset for Linux, and I have been trying to get the mail system up and running. Here's the problem: PINE refuses to send mail, even to the localhost. However, the standard mail program works fine. I'm not sure if this is the problem, but PINE may not be calling "sendmail". I have installed sendmail.cf in /etc. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Will Snyder -- J. William Snyder, Jr. (Will) | Internet: jwsnyder@email.unc.edu UNC Class of 1992 | snyder@uncvx1.oit.unc.edu UNC School of Law (3L) | AMPRNet : kb4lfd@kb4lfd.ampr.org [44.74.0.61] ARS: KB4LFD | AX.25 : KB4LFD@N1GMV.#RTP.NC.USA.NOAM From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 15 13:05:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26636; Sat, 15 Apr 95 13:05:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17240; Sat, 15 Apr 95 13:02:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17234; Sat, 15 Apr 95 13:02:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s0DqH-00038QC; Sat, 15 Apr 95 12:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jfroths@MCS.COM (Jay F. Rothschild) Subject: Pine 3.91 wants to move sent-mail Date: 15 Apr 1995 13:37:21 -0500 Message-Id: <3mp3p1$91k@Mercury.mcs.com> Everytime a user starts Pine 3.91 (SCO Unix) it asks: Move current "sent-mail" to "sent-mail-mar-1995"?. Actually not everytime, the next time it asks: To save disk space, delete old SENT mail folder "sent-mail-mar-1995"? Answering yes each time. Is this normal behavior? Or can anyone suggest what to do to stop this? There is a /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed file. Also I get messages stating my options conflict with system defaults. How do I stop this? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 15 14:50:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28852; Sat, 15 Apr 95 14:50:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17456; Sat, 15 Apr 95 14:47:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17450; Sat, 15 Apr 95 14:47:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s0FV8-00038OC; Sat, 15 Apr 95 14:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: robp@cais.com (Rob Pegoraro) Subject: distribution list setup hell Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 03:24:49 -0400 Message-Id: Yup, another one of those. I'm trying to manage a project I very foolishly volunteered to set up. To wit, sending out regular announcements to a very large list of people. I have a straightforward ASCII text list of the addresses in the appropriate addressbook (user@foo.com,luser@bar.edu) formatting. And, yes, I know how to use the bcc: header :) Two questions: 1) What's the best way to get this list--currently parked on my Mac--incorporated into the addressbook? Two possibiities come to mind: opening .addressbook with pico and pasting the entire list in; or trashing .addressbook, adding the appropriate alias [tab] full-name [tab] list (addresses) header, and uploading it into the right directory. In both cases I'd need to trash and recreate the lookup file, I presume. While I'm on the subject, how do I get pico to justify it appropriately, so that pine doesn't screw up linebreaks either? 2) Is there a maximum number of addresses in a distribution list? Neither the FAQ nor the tech notes seem to indicate this. I'm using pine 3.91 on a Sun over a telnet connection. TIA, Rob robp@cais.com ==================================================== Rob Pegoraro Work address: pegoraror@washpost.com Arlington, Va. But I'm speaking only for myself here. =============================== http://www.cais.com/robp/home.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 16 03:55:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14194; Sun, 16 Apr 95 03:55:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28571; Sun, 16 Apr 95 03:50:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28565; Sun, 16 Apr 95 03:50:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s0RkV-00038OC; Sun, 16 Apr 95 03:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin McElearney Subject: Re: pgp and pine 3.91 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 06:39:23 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-2143905441-2127331515-798028763=:7406" In-Reply-To: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---2143905441-2127331515-798028763=:7406 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 14 Apr 1995, Terry Gray wrote: > The web page is a bit out of date... 3.91 does not have any pgp support, > but 3.92 will have hooks to enable pgp use. (Sorry, no date for 3.92 yet) > > -teg To check a PGP signature you just need to "pipe" your message to the pgp command. I use vi as my alt-editor and have the following in my .exrc file to assist me in email composition. ^[ = A quoted character ^M = A quoted RETURN character. Both of these can be inserted in vi using a ^v (control V) " Format paragraph to 75 columns map ^[p !}fmt -c -75^M " " Spell check file (NOTE: saves current edit session) map ^[s :w!^M:!ispell %^M:e!^M^M " " PGP sign the message (NOTE: saves current edit session) map ^[S :w!^M:!pgpsign %^M:e!^M^M I have not done it yet, but a PGP encrypt script would not be hard to write. The only problem is the user name would have to be entered by hand. The short pgpsign script is attached. I know this is a hack but it will work until 3.92. Please don't ask me pgp questions check ftp://rtfm.mit.edu for FAQ information. While some of you "newbies" are at it read the pine FAQ. Kevin McElearney (KM108) _________________________________________________________________________ BBN Planet Corporation Phone: +1 617 873-4684 New England Region Engineering Fax: +1 617 873-5620 150 Cambridge Park Drive, 20/342 http://www.bbnplanet.com/ Cambridge, MA 02140 mailto:kmcelear@bbnplanet.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBL5Dznc09YMJUz6elAQGWgQQAinzzTFJuLsPqccv0s1FNPlH3nDDTx7uN 3ymYRph9UDPft5Eq699jLvYJUmGU9IcSB/IQywv/nXSnFKhel5q1VZJBbSKbiljo no/SonrCnF4Wn8YVY58+J46swJo9rwV6KG4/49rBWebWWX+xQFzr336UV+iCnrTF jWxxOAq52c4= =AOC9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---2143905441-2127331515-798028763=:7406 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=pgpsign Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: IyEvYmluL3NoDQoNCmlmIFsgISAtZiAkMSBdOyB0aGVuDQoJZWNobyAiJDA6 IEZpbGVuYW1lICckMScgZG9lcyBub3QgZXhpc3QiDQoJZXhpdCAxDQpmaQ0K DQpwZ3AgLXN0YSAkMQ0KbXYgJDEuYXNjICQxDQo= ---2143905441-2127331515-798028763=:7406-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 16 04:56:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15810; Sun, 16 Apr 95 04:56:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26030; Sun, 16 Apr 95 04:52:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26024; Sun, 16 Apr 95 04:52:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s0Si8-00038WC; Sun, 16 Apr 95 04:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rene Grothmann Subject: Composer hangs pine Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 13:16:26 +0200 (DFT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I do occasionally get a hung system, when press the c (compose) key. Sometimes the compose screen shows up, and sometimes it does not. I then have to kill the pine program. Any ideas? I am using pine 3.90 on a IBM RS6000, if that is of interest. Rene. ------------------------------- R. Grothmann Kath. Univ. Eichstaett, Germany rene.grothmann@ku-eichstaett.de From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 16 07:37:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18672; Sun, 16 Apr 95 07:37:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01472; Sun, 16 Apr 95 07:32:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01466; Sun, 16 Apr 95 07:32:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s0VEU-00038OC; Sun, 16 Apr 95 07:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dow Thompson Subject: password in pine? Date: 16 Apr 1995 14:17:13 GMT Message-Id: <3mr8t9$a3o@nntp.crl.com> Is there anyway make a password to get in Pine? Sometimes I let my friends use my account but don't want them to have access to my mail. Is there anyway to prevent them from seeing my mail? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 16 08:55:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19810; Sun, 16 Apr 95 08:55:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28150; Sun, 16 Apr 95 08:51:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28144; Sun, 16 Apr 95 08:51:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s0WSS-00038OC; Sun, 16 Apr 95 08:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: h9397584@hkusub (Michael Agelasto) Subject: ispell is missing Message-Id: Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 01:49:26 GMT [ Article crossposted from alt.education.research ] [ Author was Michael Agelasto ] [ Posted on Fri, 14 Apr 1995 03:54:41 GMT ] I consulted faq re. ispell and conclude that our copies of PINE and PICO 2.3 do not include the ispell facility which allows for a personalized spelling dictionary [ in UNIX finds nothing]. The faq do not suggest ispell is an add-on. Do we have an out-dated version of PICO? Thanks. ===================================================================== Michael Agelasto Phone: (852) 2858-1914 Department of Education (852) 2549-5678 (res) University of Hong Kong Fax: (852) 2857-9279 Hong Kong email: h9397584@hkusub.hku.hk ===================================================================== -- ===================================================================== Michael Agelasto Phone: (852) 2858-1914 Department of Education (852) 2549-5678 (res) University of Hong Kong Fax: (852) 2857-9279 Hong Kong email: h9397584@hkusub.hku.hk ===================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 16 09:51:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20871; Sun, 16 Apr 95 09:51:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03087; Sun, 16 Apr 95 09:47:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03081; Sun, 16 Apr 95 09:47:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s0XIR-00038OC; Sun, 16 Apr 95 09:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chenhui Feng Subject: Re: newsgroup question in 3.91 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 22:33:27 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 14 Apr 1995, The Guy wrote: > Hello, how can I post a folloup article to a post in a newsgroup ? When I > press C it took me as if I wanted to post a NEW article... you should try 'r' which stands for 'reply'. Chen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 16 10:09:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21192; Sun, 16 Apr 95 10:09:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28892; Sun, 16 Apr 95 10:06:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28885; Sun, 16 Apr 95 10:06:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s0XdD-00038OC; Sun, 16 Apr 95 09:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tr95006@sable.ox.ac.uk (Chris Owen) Subject: Auto-bounce in Pine? Message-Id: <1995Apr14.152122.22179@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 95 15:21:21 BST Using Pine, is there any way of auto-bouncing all messages from a particular user back to them? -- | Chris Owen | Trinity College, Oxford | |---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | New Sinclair WWW pages: http://sable.ox.ac.uk/~tr95006/sincover.html | | Howling in the wires - Canter & Siegel, criminal Armenians at law | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 16 13:28:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24553; Sun, 16 Apr 95 13:28:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05722; Sun, 16 Apr 95 13:23:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05716; Sun, 16 Apr 95 13:23:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s0agR-00038QC; Sun, 16 Apr 95 13:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hyatt@telerama.lm.com (Marty Hyatt) Subject: Re: long "To" fields from distribution lists? Date: 16 Apr 1995 15:39:45 -0400 Message-Id: <3mrrq1$8bc@africa.lm.com> References: I did the bcc: thing and put in a to: line. My list is under 50 names, so I don't think any buffer is overflowing. I did a test and everybody got it OK without the other addresses being visible EXCEPT a prodigy user. What is different with prodigy? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 16 15:21:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26508; Sun, 16 Apr 95 15:21:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02032; Sun, 16 Apr 95 15:19:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02026; Sun, 16 Apr 95 15:19:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s0cUZ-00038QC; Sun, 16 Apr 95 15:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin McElearney Subject: Re: ispell is missing Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 06:04:08 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 15 Apr 1995, Michael Agelasto wrote: > [ Article crossposted from alt.education.research ] > [ Author was Michael Agelasto ] > [ Posted on Fri, 14 Apr 1995 03:54:41 GMT ] > > > I consulted faq re. ispell and conclude that our > copies of PINE and PICO 2.3 do not include the ispell facility which > allows for a personalized spelling dictionary [ in UNIX finds > nothing]. > > The faq do not suggest ispell is an add-on. Do we have an out-dated > version of PICO? Ispell and can be found at your local GNU archive site: ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu Kevin McElearney (KM108) _________________________________________________________________________ BBN Planet Corporation Phone: +1 617 873-4684 New England Region Engineering Fax: +1 617 873-5620 150 Cambridge Park Drive, 20/342 http://www.bbnplanet.com/ Cambridge, MA 02140 mailto:kmcelear@bbnplanet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 16 15:53:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27112; Sun, 16 Apr 95 15:53:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07615; Sun, 16 Apr 95 15:49:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07609; Sun, 16 Apr 95 15:49:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s0cxI-00038RC; Sun, 16 Apr 95 15:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry.Bouwsma@tuke.sk Subject: Re: pgp and pine 3.91 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 07:59:41 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sun, 16 Apr 1995, Kevin McElearney wrote: :-9 To check a PGP signature you just need to "pipe" your message to the :-9 pgp command. [...] :-9 I have not done it yet, but a PGP encrypt script would not be hard to :-9 write. The only problem is the user name would have to be entered by :-9 hand. Save your effort. There is a mkpgp script which enables Pine and PGP to interoperate fairly seamlessly, using this script as the alternate editor and still giving access to the real alternate editor. It seems to work well for most reasonably well-behaved e-mail addresses and OSes and correspondents, and it took only a bit of minor hacking to get it to work with one particular user. It should automagically be able to figure out the user name. For details on how to get the mkpgp script, finger slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu :-9 On 14 Apr 1995, Terry Gray wrote: :-9 > 3.91 does not have any pgp support, but 3.92 will have hooks to enable pgp use. Barry Bouwsma -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface. iQBpAwUBL5EGdS1aAi4+AykxAQFs1QKcC3xPJWIn4EWjvA5Bu/n8M//3o9XHFLsF Fi9k8KQ2KZf6RFbkm39aW+v56pOdDIduhq9biRPG+pbIv9KeZJE3w4CEuIvWnyQK tQAtANxkExUPHw4d =9txR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 16 17:08:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28638; Sun, 16 Apr 95 17:08:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03089; Sun, 16 Apr 95 17:04:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03083; Sun, 16 Apr 95 17:04:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s0eAJ-00038RC; Sun, 16 Apr 95 16:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: krishna@primenet.com (Glenn Saunders) Subject: Re: Pine and listservs Date: 16 Apr 1995 15:28:16 GMT Message-Id: <3mrd2g$chb@news.primenet.com> References: The mortal Mark C. wrote: : I've tried to get pine to show the listserv name as well, but no luck. I : did, however, start using Filter, following the instructions in the : excellent faq that is out there, and now all of my listservs get sorted : into folders. It's great. And I have no technical skills, and it still : worked. Yeah, but what do you do when messages come in with the listserv name in the CC: field?!? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 16 20:13:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01739; Sun, 16 Apr 95 20:13:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10980; Sun, 16 Apr 95 20:08:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10969; Sun, 16 Apr 95 20:08:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s0h2e-00038QC; Sun, 16 Apr 95 20:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: robp@cais.com (Rob Pegoraro) Subject: Re: distribution list setup hell Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 22:01:32 -0400 Message-Id: References: In article , robp@cais.com (Rob Pegoraro) wrote: In answer to my previous post: All I needed to do was format the list of addresses so each address was just separated by a from the ones before and after it. Then log in to the shell, run pine, go to the address book window, and cut and paste the list with the "add to list" command prompt up. Pine interprets each carriage return as an . A piece of cake. Natch, it took me a couple of days of looking at ridiculously complicated workarounds before realizing I could do this perfectly obvious trick :) Hopefully I have spared others from similar frustration. Cheers, Rob robp@cais.com ==================================================== Rob Pegoraro Work address: pegoraror@washpost.com Arlington, Va. But I'm speaking only for myself here. =============================== http://www.cais.com/robp/home.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 16 20:37:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02250; Sun, 16 Apr 95 20:37:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05055; Sun, 16 Apr 95 20:34:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05049; Sun, 16 Apr 95 20:34:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s0hQB-00038RC; Sun, 16 Apr 95 20:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gail Harless Subject: Cut and Paste Date: 17 Apr 1995 02:11:42 GMT Message-Id: <3msiou$1e5@smarty.smart.net> I would like to be able to paste a portion of one message into another message. Is there a way to do this? Thanks, Gail From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 17 06:12:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14740; Mon, 17 Apr 95 06:12:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11074; Mon, 17 Apr 95 06:04:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from thurgood.uscourts.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11068; Mon, 17 Apr 95 06:04:09 -0700 Received: from pc4std.ao.uscourts.gov by thurgood.uscourts.gov with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0s0qTH-0002IZC; Mon, 17 Apr 95 09:04 EDT Received: from dgstd.ao.uscourts.gov by pc4std.ao.uscourts.gov with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #8) id m0s0qUf-0000GwC; Mon, 17 Apr 95 09:05 EDT Received: by dgstd.ao.uscourts.gov (Smail3.1.28.1 #11) id m0s0qTH-0004DoC; Mon, 17 Apr 95 09:04 EDT Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 09:04:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "J. Lynn Hilton" To: "R. Stewart Ellis" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Running pine/pico in restricted shell In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Seems to me that an easier solution would be to put a copy of /usr/bin/spell in /usr/local/rbin... Lynn jlh@ao.uscourts.gov or lhilton@concept.com +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | J. Lynn Hilton | Home where the AViiONs roam | | Concept Automation Services, Inc. | | | AOUSC, One Columbus Circle, N.E. | Voice: 202-273-2413 | | Washington, DC 20544 | FAX: 202-273-2356 | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ On 15 Apr 1995, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > I am helping someone setup a menued system on a Solaris 2.3 machine, using > rsh to keep the users from getting too carried away. We have all sorts of > things working, but have hit the wall with spellchecking in pine and pico. > Even though I recompiled pico with the SPELLER variable set to spell rather > than /usr/bin/spell, when P_open() calls sysstem() the path is being > prepended, and /usr/local/rbin/rsh pukes because of the /'s. Before I > reimplement some of this to avoid having path prepended, has anyone done > something similar? Or got any better ideas? > > Thank you. > > > > Stew > > -- > R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ > Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ > Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / > Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 17 06:55:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15749; Mon, 17 Apr 95 06:55:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19593; Mon, 17 Apr 95 06:49:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nova.gmi.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19580; Mon, 17 Apr 95 06:49:00 -0700 Received: by nova.gmi.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-DNI) id AA14091; Mon, 17 Apr 95 09:54:33 EDT Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 09:54:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "R. Stewart Ellis" To: "J. Lynn Hilton" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Running pine/pico in restricted shell In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 17 Apr 1995, J. Lynn Hilton wrote: > Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 09:04:07 -0400 (EDT) > From: J. Lynn Hilton > To: "R. Stewart Ellis" > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Running pine/pico in restricted shell > > Seems to me that an easier solution would be to put a copy of > /usr/bin/spell in /usr/local/rbin... You either did not read the message contained below or you did not understand all the issues. spell has been put in /usr/local/rbin, pico and pine are in rbin, the spell script has been changed to get rid of references to other directories, sed, deroff, etc. have all been put in the rbin dir. The rsh users have PATH=/usr/local/rbin exported in their environment so that they can find all the apps they are allowed to run. /usr/lib/rsh also has been copied to /usr/local/rbin. The problem is that pine uses a system() call which prepends path to a command that is specified without one, and rsh rightly refuses to execute any command with /'s in it. What I am really looking for is someone who has rewritten the P_open() function in pico. > > Lynn > jlh@ao.uscourts.gov or > lhilton@concept.com > > +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | J. Lynn Hilton | Home where the AViiONs roam | > | Concept Automation Services, Inc. | | > | AOUSC, One Columbus Circle, N.E. | Voice: 202-273-2413 | > | Washington, DC 20544 | FAX: 202-273-2356 | > +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > On 15 Apr 1995, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > > > I am helping someone setup a menued system on a Solaris 2.3 machine, using > > rsh to keep the users from getting too carried away. We have all sorts of > > things working, but have hit the wall with spellchecking in pine and pico. > > Even though I recompiled pico with the SPELLER variable set to spell rather > > than /usr/bin/spell, when P_open() calls sysstem() the path is being > > prepended, and /usr/local/rbin/rsh pukes because of the /'s. Before I > > reimplement some of this to avoid having path prepended, has anyone done > > something similar? Or got any better ideas? > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > Stew [...] R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 17 10:36:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23852; Mon, 17 Apr 95 10:36:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24508; Mon, 17 Apr 95 10:28:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24502; Mon, 17 Apr 95 10:28:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s0uRM-00038MC; Mon, 17 Apr 95 10:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dawn@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Dawn Owens-Nicholson) Subject: Re: WYSE Terminal Help Date: 15 Apr 1995 03:20:01 GMT Message-Id: <3mne11$hjs@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <3miag4$7gp@news.primenet.com> dunigan@primenet.com (Michael Dunigan) writes: >Okay here is my problem..... I have a lot of wyse 30, 60 and 160 >terminals out there.... I want to use Pine for the e-mail interface. >I know that the FAQ mentions that it won't support these terminals (at >least when it comes to the arrow key functions). Then Pine is in need of a fix. Pine shouldn't "support" any individual or specific set of terminals, it should look in the terminfo or termcap definition for whatever terminal it's being run on and use the key definitions provided therein (and provide optional builtin keys any terminal can do like emacs or vi-equivalents). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 17 11:21:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25985; Mon, 17 Apr 95 11:21:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25814; Mon, 17 Apr 95 11:18:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from netcom6.netcom.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25808; Mon, 17 Apr 95 11:18:06 -0700 Received: by netcom6.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA21701; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 11:17:54 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 11:17:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Juanita Fischer X-Sender: juanfisc@netcom6 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help with mail filtering Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I set up procmail to filter my mail into in-coming folders. The log indicates that mail is being put into these folders and I can save messages to them, but when I try to tab to them, pine says it can't open them because "no such folder". I can read the messages with a cat, more, or from within an editor, but for some reason, Pine can't access these folders. All the folders have been created and are in my .pinerc file. If someone can help, I will send you the pertinent files. Frustrated, but continuing From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 17 12:07:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28312; Mon, 17 Apr 95 12:07:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17990; Mon, 17 Apr 95 12:03:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17984; Mon, 17 Apr 95 12:03:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s0vyd-00038OC; Mon, 17 Apr 95 11:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jrozes@tcs.tufts.edu (Jonathan Rozes) Subject: sending/viewing HTML attachments Date: 17 Apr 1995 18:23:14 GMT Message-Id: <3mubmi$tt4@d2.tufts.edu> Hi-- Has anybody been able to get pine to work with HTML attachments? It appears to be brain dead with regard to the text mime-type, ignoring any entries in mailcap files and displaying them internally. At a glance, it looked like mime_can_display() only checks the charset parameter, totally ignoring the subtype (when the type is text). Outgoing attachments are marked as text/plain. This would involve a bit more work to fix, as it would require analysis of the text body (as opposed to simply looking for a magic number). An easier, but less robust solution would be to mark it as text/html if the file extension is '.html' or '.htm'. I might try to implement at least the viewing capability, but I figured I should check here first to see if anybody else has tried it or is working on it. Thanks, jonathan -- +++ Jonathan Rozes, jrozes@tcs.tufts.edu, jrozes@tufts.edu +++ http://www.tufts.edu/~jrozes/ +++ Mind Over Liver: The liver probably contains 100 million cells, but 1,000 livers do not add up to a rich inner life. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 17 14:21:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04712; Mon, 17 Apr 95 14:21:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00602; Mon, 17 Apr 95 14:15:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00596; Mon, 17 Apr 95 14:15:25 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19005; Mon, 17 Apr 95 14:15:14 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 14:15:07 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jonathan Rozes Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: sending/viewing HTML attachments In-Reply-To: <3mubmi$tt4@d2.tufts.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII These problems will be fixed in Pine 3.92, scheduled to be released when we get done working on it ;) |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 17 Apr 1995, Jonathan Rozes wrote: > Date: 17 Apr 1995 18:23:14 GMT > From: Jonathan Rozes > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: sending/viewing HTML attachments > > Hi-- > > Has anybody been able to get pine to work with HTML attachments? It > appears to be brain dead with regard to the text mime-type, ignoring > any entries in mailcap files and displaying them internally. At a > glance, it looked like mime_can_display() only checks the charset > parameter, totally ignoring the subtype (when the type is text). > > Outgoing attachments are marked as text/plain. This would involve a > bit more work to fix, as it would require analysis of the text body > (as opposed to simply looking for a magic number). An easier, but > less robust solution would be to mark it as text/html if the file > extension is '.html' or '.htm'. > > I might try to implement at least the viewing capability, but I > figured I should check here first to see if anybody else has tried > it or is working on it. > > Thanks, > jonathan > -- > +++ Jonathan Rozes, jrozes@tcs.tufts.edu, jrozes@tufts.edu > +++ http://www.tufts.edu/~jrozes/ > +++ Mind Over Liver: The liver probably contains 100 million cells, but > 1,000 livers do not add up to a rich inner life. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 17 15:01:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06444; Mon, 17 Apr 95 15:01:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01573; Mon, 17 Apr 95 14:54:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01565; Mon, 17 Apr 95 14:54:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s0yaA-00038QC; Mon, 17 Apr 95 14:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Clyde E. Bowman III" Subject: Row height in pine Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:24:58 -0700 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Could anyone tell me how to make pine longer in row? Right now it's approx 19. Can it be lengthened to fit one's screen? Thanks ahead of time. . . Clyde *************************************** * * * Clyde //, // * * E. \ /, / >. * * Bowman \ /, / >. * * III \ /, / >. * * \ /, / >. * * ceb3pl \ /, _/ /. * * @ \_ /_/ /. * * eagle. \__/_ < * * stark. /<<< \_\_ * * k12. /,)^>>_._ \ * * oh. (/ \\ \\\ * * us // ~~~ * * ((` * * * *************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 17 15:07:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06677; Mon, 17 Apr 95 15:07:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21997; Mon, 17 Apr 95 14:59:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21991; Mon, 17 Apr 95 14:59:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s0yfd-00038SC; Mon, 17 Apr 95 14:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: alongton@clark.net (Andy Longton) Subject: Novice: How to send a mail packet? Date: 17 Apr 1995 19:35:32 GMT Message-Id: <3mufu4$ki4@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit [ Article crossposted from comp.mail.headers ] [ Author was Andy Longton ] [ Posted on 17 Apr 1995 19:32:00 GMT ] Any help with this would be appreciated.... I'm writing a _very_ _simple_ program to send mail using an ANSI (not SLIP) modem connection. So far, I've been able to send messages by poking keystrokes into PINE. The obvious problem is that if the site I'm dialing into doesn't have Pine -- let alone the same setup as I'm expecting -- I can't send a message to that site. While the project will support SLIP connections later -- and hopefully MIME as well -- I don't have the resources to handle this in the short run. Yet, I still need to be able to send mail through most dial-up Internet servers. Q. What mail packages or APIs should I target (under ANSI/TTY/VT100 consoles) to increase my chance of sucessfully sending a message using any given site's software? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 17 16:26:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10945; Mon, 17 Apr 95 16:26:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03679; Mon, 17 Apr 95 16:18:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03673; Mon, 17 Apr 95 16:18:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s0zsp-00038ZC; Mon, 17 Apr 95 16:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: john@southern.co.nz (John Collis) Subject: Pine as POP3 Client? Date: 17 Apr 1995 22:07:02 GMT Message-Id: <3muoq6$mee@southern.co.nz> I understood that Pine would act as a Popmail client. Is this true?? If so how does one set it up as I can't find anyway to do it. -- john@southern.co.nz or john@albemuth.equinox.gen.nz o( ) John Collis - Christchurch, New Zealand / /\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 17 17:57:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15008; Mon, 17 Apr 95 17:57:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25772; Mon, 17 Apr 95 17:49:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25766; Mon, 17 Apr 95 17:49:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s11M1-00038MC; Mon, 17 Apr 95 17:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: xarcor@aol.com (Xarco R) Subject: comp. mail To: ? Date: 17 Apr 1995 14:28:34 -0400 Message-Id: <3muc0i$hip@newsbf02.news.aol.com> In using pine 3.91 when I get to the compose screen and select and see all the To: cc: ect. how do I start to actually write a letter? Thanks in advance for this next step. Please E-mail me at Xarcor@aol.com. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 17 19:10:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16965; Mon, 17 Apr 95 19:10:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07102; Mon, 17 Apr 95 19:04:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07096; Mon, 17 Apr 95 19:04:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s12US-00038MC; Mon, 17 Apr 95 18:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Jelineo Subject: Re: How to get Receipt? Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 18:53:12 -0700 Message-Id: References: <199504080757.AAA00800@usr3.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hi All-- I would like to know about having a Return Receipt Generated when the person reads the message so that I will know if they had or not. Sometimes I don't get replys from people for a really long time and I am curious if there was a way to get a Return Receipt once someone reads the message. --Mike Jelineo BTW - Please Send All Answers to My E-mail Address instead of Posting it To comp.mail.pine. I like getting answers via Private e-mail....! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mike Jelineo mjelineo@pacifier.com Vancouver, WA USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 17 20:41:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19589; Mon, 17 Apr 95 20:41:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28116; Mon, 17 Apr 95 20:25:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28110; Mon, 17 Apr 95 20:25:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s13oF-00038OC; Mon, 17 Apr 95 20:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FAQ Editor Subject: Filtering Mail FAQ Date: 17 Apr 1995 20:13:49 GMT Message-Id: Archive-name: mail/filtering-faq Posting-frequency: approximately monthly Last-modified: 18 April 1995 Current Hypertext Version: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html _____________________________________________________ ________| |________ \ | FILTERING MAIL FAQ | / \ | Copyright (c) 1994, 1995 Nancy McGough and others | / / |_____________________________________________________| \ /___________) (__________\ TABLE OF CONTENTS 0.0 Preliminaries 0.1 Getting the Latest Version of this FAQ 0.1.1 Hypertext 0.1.2 Plain Text 0.2 Terminology 0.3 Notation 1.0 Mail Folder Strategies 1.1 Naming Incoming Mail Folders 1.2 Reading Incoming Mail Folders 2.0 Procmail 2.1 Setting Up Procmail 2.1.1 Is Procmail on Your System? 2.1.2 Setting Up Procmail for Testing 2.1.3 Testing 2.1.4 Setting Up Procmail to Filter Mailing List Messages 2.2 Troubleshooting Procmail 2.2.1 General Strategies 2.2.2 Alternate .forward files 2.3 Explanation of Test Recipe 2.4 Tracking Your Incoming Mail 2.5 Procmail References 3.0 Mailagent 3.1 Setting Up Mailagent 3.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail 3.3 How Safe Mailagent Processing Is? 3.4 Locking Under Mailagent 3.5 Folder Types Supported 3.6 Mailagent References 4.0 Filter 4.1 Setting up Filter 4.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail 4.3 Filter References 5.0 Mailer and Newsreader References 6.0 Contributors 6.1 Acknowledgements 6.2 Contributing to this FAQ 7.0 Copyright Notice ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:00:00 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.0 Preliminaries Q: How can I have my incoming mailing-list messages automatically put into appropriate folders? This is one of the most frequently asked questions about email. This FAQ provides basic instructions for Unix users to set up either procmail, mailagent, or elm's filter to filter incoming mailing-list messages. If you have a choice, I recommend procmail which is powerful, robust, and is actively developed and supported. All these mail processors can also be set up to filter other types of incoming messages, send automated replies, etc. For instructions see the relevant references listed below. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:00:10 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.1 Getting the Latest Version of this FAQ If this FAQ is over a couple months old, there may be an updated version. Please get the latest hypertext or plain text version from one of the places listed below. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:00:11 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.1.1 Hypertext The best way to read this FAQ (and most other FAQs too) is to view the hypertext version using a Web browser such as Cello, Lynx, Mosaic, Netscape, OmniWeb, SpiderWoman or WinWeb. This will allow you to easily jump: * between subjects in the FAQ * to any Uniform Resource Locator (URL) in the FAQ * to an Internet Request For Comments document (RFC) * to some manual pages This, and all FAQs that are crossposted to news.answers, are available at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/top.html This particular FAQ is at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:00:12 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.1.2 Plain Text The plain text version is regularly posted to comp.mail.misc, comp.mail.elm, comp.mail.pine, comp.answers, and news.answers. It's in digest format which means that you may be able to use your newsreader to easily move between digest items (e.g., nn uses G% to burst a digest and trn uses ^G to jump to the next digest item). The FAQ is also available through: Anonymous FTP: ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering_mail_faq.txt ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq Email: Send mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu containing the following: send usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq UUCP: uunet!/archive/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq Hard Copy: A printed version of this FAQ is in Chapter 25 of the book "Internet Secrets" by John R. Levine and Carol Baroudi; published 1995 by IDG Books; ISBN 1-56884-452-2. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:00:20 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.2 Terminology Term Meaning ==== ======= mailer or MUA Mail user agent such as pine or elm pico PIne COmposer - a user friendly editor reader Mailer, newsreader, or Web browser that can read mail folders regular expression Text that can include "wild cards" (such as . to match any single character); used for searching ^x Press the Ctrl key and then, while holding down the Ctrl key, press the x key ~ or $HOME Your home directory. You can always get to your home directory by typing `cd'. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:00:30 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.3 Notation Notation Meaning ======== ======= TextName placeholder; replace with appropriate text placeholder; replace with appropriate text without the angle brackets `text' text you type but without the quotes "text" text you type including the double quotes 'text' text you type including the single quotes [Key] press the key, e.g., [Space], [Enter], or [Tab] ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:01:00 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 1.0 Mail Folder Strategies It is a good idea to come up with a system for naming and reading your mail folders. With a good system, you will have an easier time managing the hundreds (or thousands!) of messages you will receive. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:01:10 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 1.1 Naming Incoming Mail Folders For my incoming mail folders I use names that start with `IN'. For example, I put mail sent to the procmail mailing list into a folder named IN.procmail. This way when all my folders are listed alphabetically the incoming folders are together and near the top. They are near the top because Unix is case sensitive and upper case letters come before lower case letters in an ascii sort. Of course, you can use any names you like for your mail folders! ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:01:20 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 1.2 Reading Incoming Mail Folders Here are some instructions for opening a mail folder that's in the default folder directory for some mailers and newsreaders. Default Folder Reader Directory Command line command From within reader ====== ============== ==================== ================== elm ~/Mail elm -f =folder c =folder pine ~/mail pine -if folder G folder mail ~/mail mail -f /path/folder nn ~/News nn +folder G +folder (Please send me information for other mailers and newsreaders.) Pine has an incoming-folder variable which you can use to list your incoming folders in a separate section of your folder list (to view your folder list in Pine, type `L'). Setting this variable also allows you to use the Tab key to step through all new messages in all your incoming folders. For more information see the question "How can I filter messages into different incoming folders?" in the Pine FAQ: http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/usage.html#filter IMPORTANT NOTE ============== If you are going to be editing your incoming mail folder, e.g., deleting messages, then your filtering program and your folder reader should use locking schemes that work together. Otherwise, if mail is delivered at the same time that you are deleting a message your folder may be corrupted. To learn more about locking see the question "What is folder locking and how does it work?" in the Pine FAQ. This is useful to read even if you don't use Pine as your mailer. http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/faq/errors.html#locking Most mailers, such as pine and elm, use lock a file named `folder.lock' to lock the folder named `folder'. Note that nn does not lock folders so you probably don't want to use nn to delete messages in a folder that is receiving incoming messages. (Please send me info about locking in other mailers and newsreaders.) For more information about specific mailers and newsreaders, see the relevant documentation, such as man pages and Web pages. Some pointers to documentation are listed in section 5.0. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:00 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.0 Procmail Procmail is a powerful mail processor that can be used to process your mail messages either as they arrive or after they are in a mail folder. To find out how to process an existing mail folder see the NOTES section of the procmail(1) man page. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:10 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.1 Setting Up Procmail To set up and test procmail, follow the ten steps given in sections 2.1.1 through 2.1.4 below. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:11 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.1.1 Is Procmail on Your System? 1] To find out if procmail is on your system and what the full path to it is, type one of the following commands: Shell Command ===== ======= csh which procmail sh or ksh type procmail various whereis procmail various where procmail Make a note of the full path to procmail because this is needed in step 5b below. You can find out the version by typing: procmail -v The latest released version, as of 15 April 1995, is 3.10. Version 3.11 should be out soon. If your system doesn't have procmail or doesn't have the latest version, you may want to ask your system administrator to install it. The procmail package of tools is at: ftp://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz If your sys admin isn't able to do this, use a different mail processor like mailagent (described in section 3 of this FAQ) or filter (described in section 4). ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:12 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.1.2 Setting Up Procmail for Testing 2a] Create ~/.procmailrc. cd pico .procmailrc NOTE: Throughout this article I use pico for editing files. Replace `pico' with your editor. 2b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.procmailrc. Note that lines that begin with # are comments and are ignored by procmail. #Set on when debugging VERBOSE=off #Replace `mail' with your mail directory (Pine uses mail, Elm uses Mail) MAILDIR=$HOME/mail #Directory for storing procmail log and rc files PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.testing INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.maillists 3] Create the directory where you will store your procmail log and rc files (this is $PMDIR that you set above). cd mkdir .procmail 4a] Create an rc (run commands) file for testing: cd .procmail pico rc.testing 4b] Enter the following in ~/.procmail/rc.testing: :0: * ^Subject:.*test IN.testing Note that the first line contains a zero (0), not the letter "oh". For now, don't worry about the meaning of this recipe. It is explained in 2.3 "Explanation of Test Recipe." 5a] Create a ~/.forward file by typing the following. (Pico's -w flag tells pico not to auto wrap lines.) cd pico -w .forward 5b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.forward: "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/local/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #nancym" == IMPORTANT NOTES == * Make sure you include all the quotes, both double (") and single ('). * The vertical bar (|) is a pipe. * Replace /usr/local/bin with the correct path for procmail (see step 1). * Replace `nancym' with your userid. You need to put your userid in your .forward so that it will be different than any other .forward file on your system. * Do NOT use ~ or environment variables, like $HOME, in your .forward file. If procmail resides below your home directory write out the *full* path. 5c] On many systems you need to make your .forward world readable and your home directory world searchable in order for the mail transport agent to "see" it. To do this type: cd chmod 644 .forward chmod a+x . ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:13 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.1.3 Testing 6] Send yourself two test messages: one with `test' in the subject and one without `test' in the subject. 7] Start your mailer (pine, elm, etc.) and check that the messages were delivered correctly. The one with `test' in the subject should be in the folder $MAILDIR/IN.testing and the one without `test' in the subject should be in your inbox. If these were not delivered correctly, see section 2.2 on "Troubleshooting Procmail" section below. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:14 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.1.4 Setting Up Procmail to Filter Mailing List Messages 8a] Once you have successfully tested procmail in steps 6 and 7, create rc.maillists for filtering incoming mailing-list messages into mail folders. cd cd .procmail pico rc.maillists 8b] In rc.maillists, create a recipe, like the two example recipes below, for each of your mailing lists. :0: * ^TOwww-talk IN.www-talk :0: * ^TOprocmail IN.procmail The first recipe filters the www-talk mailing list and the second recipe filters the procmail mailing lists. The meaning of the first recipe is as follows: Notation Meaning ======== ======= :0 Begin a recipe : Use a lock file * Begin a condition ^TO Match ``To:'' ``Cc:'' or other synonyms for To at the beginning of a line, followed by any or no characters, followed by.... www-talk ``www-talk'' IN.www-talk If successful match, put in folder $MAILDIR/IN.www-talk IMPORTANT NOTES =============== * ^TO is not a normal regular expression; it is a special procmail expression that is designed to catch any destination specification. For details, see the MISCELLANEOUS section of the procmailrc(5) man pages. * Do not put a space between the caret (^) and the word `TO' in `^TO'. * Do not put a space between the `^TO' and the text that you are matching on; it must be `^TOtext'. * Both letters in `TO' must be capitalized. 9] Repeat steps 6 and 7 to make sure that things are still working. 10] Comment out the rc.testing line in you .procmailrc file so that it looks like this: VERBOSE=off MAILDIR=$HOME/mail PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log # INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.testing INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.maillists NOTE: Leaving the rc.testing line in your .procmailrc file is useful for future testing. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:20 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.2 Troubleshooting Procmail If messages are not delivered correctly, here are steps you can use to try to solve the problem. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:21 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.2.1 General Strategies 1] Look at your $LOGFILE (~/.procmail/log) to see if you can determine what the problem is. 2] Check these three files for typos: ~/.forward ~/.procmailrc ~/.procmail/rc.testing 3] Check the file and directory permissions of your .forward (set in 5c in "Setting up Procmail for Testing" above). Type... In order to... ------- -------------- cd Go to your home directory. ls -l .forward Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r-- ls -ld . Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each (i.e., drwx--x--x, drwxr-xr-x, drwxr-x--x, drwx--xr-x are each acceptable.) 4] If the above three steps do not locate the problem edit your ~/.procmailrc so that it contains: VERBOSE=on Test procmail by following steps 6 and 7 again. Look at your $LOGFILE (which will contain verbose messages) to see if you can now determine what the problem is. If you are still having problems see the next section on "Alternate .forward Files." After you get procmail to work, you probably will want to set VERBOSE back to off. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:22 GMT From: "Stephen R. van den Berg" Subject: 2.2.2 Alternate .forward files If the .forward template in 5b above doesn't work the following alternatives might be helpful: In a perfect world: "|exec /usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym" In an almost perfect world: "|exec /usr/local/bin/procmail USER=nancym" In another world: "|IFS=' ';exec /usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym" In a different world: "|IFS=' ';exec /usr/local/bin/procmail USER=nancym" In a smrsh world: "|/usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym" These formats can be tried in different combinations, the leading "| can be tried as |" instead, or vice versa. NOTE ==== If your system uses procmail as its local delivery agent, you do not need a .forward file; simply having a .procmailrc files suffices. To find out if procmail is the local delivery agent, ask your system administrator. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:30 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.3 Explanation of Test Recipe The recipe you used for testing is: :0: * ^Subject:.*test IN.testing The meaning of this recipe is: Notation Meaning ======== ======= :0 Begin a recipe : Use a lock file * Begin a condition ^ Match the beginning of a line followed by.... Subject: ``Subject:'' followed by.... . any character (.) followed by.... * 0 or more of preceding character (any character in this case) followed by.... test ``test'' IN.testing If successful match, put in folder $MAILDIR/IN.testing ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:40 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.4 Tracking Your Incoming Mail You can use mailstat, a useful script that is part of the procmail package, to check your procmail log file. Check to see if it is on your system by typing either `which mailstat' or `type mailstat'. If it's on your system type: mailstat $HOME/.procmail/log This displays a concise version of your log file and moves your log file to log.old. You may want to put the above line in your .login so that each time you log in you will see a listing of how many messages you've received since the last time you ran mailstat, and what folders these messages were delivered to. You can get a mailstat listing of log.old by using the -o flag: mailstat -o $HOME/.procmail/log If mailstat is not on your system ask your system administrator to install it. The script is located with all the other procmail tools (see 2.1.1 above for the ftp location). ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:50 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.5 Procmail References Man Pages: procmail(1) - autonomous mail processor procmailrc(5) - procmail rc file procmailex(5) - procmail rc file examples procmailsc(5) - procmail weighted scoring techique egrep(1) - search file for regular expression (procmail uses egrep-style regular exprssions along with some of its own expressions like ^TO) formail(1) - mail reformatter sendmail(8) - send mail over the internet Newsgroup: comp.mail.misc Mailing List: procmail@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subscribe to the procmail mailing list by sending mail: To: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: subscribe Procmail Archives: Get a list of files available at the procmail mail server by sending mail: To: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: archive ls Get Best of the Procmail mailing list by sending mail (you'll need gzip and a MIME-decoder to unpack it): To: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: archive get best_of_procmail_list* ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:03:00 GMT From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.0 Mailagent Mailagent is a powerful mail processing package that can be used to process your mail messages, either at arrival time via a .forward hook or later on while they are already saved in a mail folder. Mailagent is written in Perl and hence has all the advantages of being interpreted, i.e. it is easy to enhance dynamically and to customize. This version of the FAQ describes the basics of setting up mailagent to process incoming mail messages from within a .forward. To find out about the more advanced features of mailagent, please refer to the mailagent(1) manual page. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:03:10 GMT From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.1 Setting Up Mailagent 1] First, make sure mailagent is available on your system. The easiest way to do this is to run: mailagent -V which will print the mailagent version if it is available, or the shell will issue an error message "mailagent: not found" or something like it. 2a] Now you need to understand the MTA (Mail Transport Agent, the program that delivers the mail; usually, sendmail) will NOT deliver to mailagent directly, rather to an intermediate (small) filter program. Two versions are available: shell or C -- refer to the mailagent(1) manpage to choose, but I recommend you use the C version first, and move to the shell version if you can't run a binary from your .forward file. 2b] Locate the filter program (it will be filter or filter.sh depending on whether you choose the C or the shell version respectively) under some directory like /usr/local/lib/mailagent. From now on, we'll assume we use the C filter and that it is located under /usr/local/lib/mailagent. 3] Copy the file /usr/local/lib/mailagent/mailagent.cf as ~/.mailagent and edit it to configure your system correctly. You will see two distinct sections in that file and you need to set-up properly the first one, the "Configuration section". If you have a version of mailagent that is recent enough (at least 3.0 PL32) then you can create an initial configuration very easily and quickly by running the following command: mailagent -I which will set-up an almost ready-to-use ~/.mailagent file. All you need to do at this point is go through its configuration section to make sure mailagent made the right choices... The minimal set of variables that MUST be correctly set (i.e. for which you cannot rely on the default set in the file) are (# introduces comment in a shell-like manner, which run up to the end of the line): home: # Your HOME directory, as reported by "echo $HOME", usually. path: # Path to be used to locate mailagent and perl, at least. p_xxx: # Path to be appended to "path" above when running on machine "xxx". user: # Your login name. name: # Your name. level: # Logging level. I recommend you raise it to 20 for testing. The mail folder directory is ~/Mail by default, but it can be changed only from within your rule file by putting maildir = ~/mail; at its top, for instance, to make it ~/mail. The rule file is defined as the "rules" parameter, and is set to ~/.rules by default. 4] Ensure the directories configured in your ~/.mailagent under "logdir" and "spool" and "queue" do exist. If you use the standard setting, this requires the following commands: cd mkdir var cd var mkdir log mailagent cd mailagent mkdir queue 5a] Create a rule file (named ~/.rules by default) for testing: cd vi .rules 5b] Enter the following in ~/.rules Subject: /test/ { SAVE testing }; The meaning of that rule should be pretty obvious: If we receive a mail whose subject line contains the word "test", then we save that mail in a folder named "testing", under the default folder directory (~/Mail). 5c] Create a ~/.forward file as follows: "|exec /usr/local/lib/mailagent/filter >> /export/home/ram/.bak 2>&1" The meaning of that line is the following: every mail should be piped (hence the leading "|" character) onto the filter program, and any output from that program (i.e. errors) are appended to some file in your home directory, with stderr following stdout (2>&1) in traditional sh syntax. == IMPORTANT NOTES == * Your .forward is always processed by sh, regardless of your login shell. * Replace /export/home/ram with your proper login directory full path. That's a part that makes your .forward unique (for zealous optimizing sendmail that are dead wrong about optimizing!) and that can save you a lot of trouble if anything goes wrong! Just look at your ~/.bak! * Replace /usr/local/lib/mailagent/filter with the proper filter path on your machine. 5d] Note that on many systems, you need to ensure your .forward will be readable by everybody, and that your home directory has the "x" bit set for everybody (i.e. can be part of a lookup path) so that sendmail can see and parse your .forward file. To ensure this, type: cd chmod a+r .forward chmod a+x . 6] Send yourself two test messages: one with "test" in the subject, and one without "test" in the subject. 7a] Checkout your ~/.bak file: it should be empty! 7b] Checkout your ~/var/log/agentlog file to see what really happened to your messages. Watch out for any ERROR or WARNING logs. This assumes you have left at least the default logging level (9) in the ~/.mailagent file (the "level" variable). But for testing, that level should be raised to 20 to help you diagnose what's going on. 7c] Look out in ~/Mail/testing. You should find there the message whose Subject line contained the word "test". Then make sure the other message has been delivered to your regular mailbox. (Since no match occurred in your rule file, the mail is left in your mailbox by default). 7d] TROUBLESHOOTING * If your mail was not properly delivered, please make sure your rule file and configuration file are correct by issuing the following command: mailagent -d * If the previous command does not output the single rule you should have put in ~/.rules, then please make sure step 3 and 4 above were correctly performed (those being the crucial steps ensuring a proper configuration). * Check the ~/.bak file for error messages. * Check for typos in any of these files: ~/.forward ~/.mailagent ~/.rules * Check the file and directory permissions of your .forward (set in step 5c above). Type... In order to... ------- -------------- cd Go to your home directory. ls -l .forward Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r-- ls -ld . Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each (i.e., drwx--x--x, drwxr-xr-x, drwxr-x--x, drwx--xr-x). * If none of the previous hints helped you identify problem, and you can't figure it out from the output in ~/.bak or in the ~/var/log/agentlog file (or whatever file you have configured for logging within your ~/.mailagent file, variables "log" and "logdir"), then make sure your mail is not waiting in the MTA's queue: this might be the case if the agentlog file is empty. If you are using sendmail as MTA, you can run: /usr/lib/sendmail -bp to print out the queue. * As a last resort, please look at the mailagent(1) manual page under the section "Testing Your Installation" for more tips and things to look at. 8] Once you have successfully tested mailagent in steps 6 and 7 above, you're on! Mailagent is ready to process your mail. All you have to do is extend the ~/.rules file to add more rules. For instance: To Cc: www-talk { SAVE www-talk }; To Cc: agent-users { SAVE agent-users }; Those two rules filter the two mailing lists www-talk and agent-users into their respective folders, whether the mailing list address appear in the To OR Cc header. Since rules are not qualified as a pattern match (contrary to our test above), they match on logins in the address, i.e. they will match things like www-talk@chip.com or chip!www-talk, or a plain simple www-talk if this is a local alias. (This implicit matching on logins works only for some selectors like To, Cc or From which are know to contain addresses). If you wish to sort on patterns appearing in the Subject of messages for instance, then you must use a pattern matching syntax, as in: Subject: /star trek/ { SAVE star-trek; }; to save in a folder "star-trek" all the messages whose subject contains the words "star trek". Case matters, but keep on reading... 9] As an advanced topic, since mailagent is written in Perl, you have all the power of Perl's regular expressions at your disposal. Which means you can write things like this: To Cc: agent-users { REJECT AGENT }; Subject: /^\w*subscribe/i { DELETE }; * { UNIQUE -a; SAVE agent }; The second lines makes use of that perl extended regular expression syntax: \w matches an alphanumeric character plus "_", while the trailing "i" option requests a case-insensitive match. You also note you have a real automaton at your disposal. You can enter a special state (AGENT in our example) and continue parsing by only scanning for rules tagged by this mode. The first match stops the automaton, unless you REJECT to continue processing. When not restricted by a mode list, a rule is always taken into account. For example, assuming the automaton is in the state "NEWS", it will not consider rules tagged , as in the above example. The automaton begins in mode "INITIAL". The "UNIQUE -a" action followed by a SAVE ensures only one copy per Message-ID will ever end-up in your agent folder -- no duplicates! Also note you can have more than one action per rule, and that the last one uses '*' to match anything, i.e. its action part between {} will always be executed in AGENT mode, when reached by the automaton. Also, since in Perl regular expression syntax, \b matches a word-boundary and \s any space or tab character, we can write our Star Trek message sorting into a much more robust form: Subject: /\bstar\s+trek\b/i { SAVE star-trek; }; (\s+ matches one or more white spaces, while \s* would match zero or more, see the Perl manual page for a complete description of regular expressions.) which will match on various subject strings like "Last Star Trek season" or "I am addicted to Star trek", but not on "Tristar treks" -- whatever that means :-) All in all, the filtering automaton syntax is pretty much intuitive and easy to read. You have to learn which actions are possible and what they mean, naturally. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:03:20 GMT From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail If you are curious about what mailagent does to your mail, you have two options: * Look at your "agentlog" file, with a log level set to 9. * Get a summary of all the actions performed by running: mailagent -summary This last option is only possible if you have initialized the statistics gathering process by creating a ~/var/mailagent/mailagent.st file (under the default setting from ~/.mailagent). You will get a clear picture of your processing, by seeing which rule match, how often, in which state, etc... You will also know how many times you SAVE or DELETE messages for instance. Actually, mailagent statistics are triggered by a simple mailagent -s command, the letters given after in the {u,m,a,r,y} set being options that alter the output given by the command. * Look at the ~/.bak occasionally to make sure no error is pending... ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:03:30 GMT From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.3 How Safe Mailagent Processing Is? As soon as the filter program has taken a hold on your message, you can rest assured the mail will get filtered one way or the other. If filter can't queue your mail, it will exit with an exit status of 75, that status being recognized by "sendmail" as a "deliver later on" hint, in which case the mail message will safely wait in sendmail's queue. So if filter gets your message, it immediately forks and exits with a 0 status for sendmail, letting it know its work is finished and releasing it to save resources. It then calls mailagent on the queued message (in mailagent's private queue) to actually process the message. Only after successful processing will mailagent delete the queued message. Hence, under an heavily loaded system, the worst that could happen would be a duplicate processing of a message, or a bounce back when sendmail cannot fork and exec the filter program from your .forward. Under catastrophic conditions, filter or mailagent will simply dump the message on stdout, for ~/.bak to catch, preceded by the reason why processing was aborted. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:03:40 GMT From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.4 Locking Under Mailagent By default, mailagent proceeds with a fixed locking scheme (.lock extension) plus flock() if asked to do so at Configure time. However, mailagent provides support for NFS-secure locks and also can use non-standard locking procedures, configurable from within ~/.mailagent (variables "nfslock" and "mboxlock"). However, it cannot support locking on a rule basis (yet!). The author is willing to raise the priority of that item if one comes up with a legitimate need for that feature that could not be worked-around by a PERL escape. ;-) ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:03:50 GMT From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.5 Folder Types Supported Mailagent can deliver mail to plain UNIX folders (also known as "mbox format"), to MMDF folders, to MH folders (with unseen sequence update built-in and using locks, not like rcvstore which does not!) or to directories (ala MH, but without unseen sequence support and with alternate naming possible). It also supports delivery to folders with the "x" bit set, in which case mailagent interprets those as being hooks. It either pipes the message to the "program" or further interprets the hook to do more processing. See the manual page mailagent(1) under the section "MAIL HOOKS" for more details. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:03:60 GMT From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.6 Mailagent References Man Pages mailagent(1) - reference manual page (about 47 pages troff'ed). perl(1) - reference manual for Perl sendmail(8) - send mail over the Internet Examples: agent/examples/rules - a commented rule file sample, from the distribution source tree. Newsgroup: comp.mail.misc Mailing List: agent-users@foretune.co.jp Subscribe to the list by sending mail: To: majordomo@foretune.co.jp subscribe agent-users Mailagent archives: FTP://ftp.foretune.co.jp/pub/network/mail/mailagent EMAIL: Send mail to the author's mailagent: To: ram@hptnos02.grenoble.hp.com Subject: Command @SH maildist - mailagent - ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:04:00 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 4.0 Filter Filter is part of the Elm package of tools. Note that you can use filter to filter your incoming mail even if you are not using Elm to read your mail. IMPORTANT NOTE ============== If your system has both procmail and filter installed then you should use procmail which is *much* more robust and powerful than filter. This recommendation is almost universal; even the developers of Elm and Filter recommend procmail over filter. IT IS POSSIBLE TO LOSE MAIL MESSAGES WHEN USING FILTER; this is rare but it has happened. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:04:10 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 4.1 Setting up Filter Followup-To: comp.mail.elm 1] Find out if filter is on your system and what the full path to it is. If you are using the C shell (csh) type: which filter Or, if you are using the Korn shell (ksh) or the Bourne shell (sh) type: type filter If neither ``which'' nor ``type'' are on your system try ``where'' and ``whereis''. If your system doesn't have filter ask your system administrator to install it; or even better ask her to install procmail. 2] Note the full path of your home directory by typing: cd pwd 3a] Create ~/.elm/filter-rules. (Note that throughout this article I use pico for editing files. Replace ``pico'' with your editor.) cd mkdir .elm cd .elm pico filter-rules 3b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.elm/filter-rules if (subject contains "test") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.testing" Replace /j/nancym with your home directory path (see step 2). Replace /Mail with the name of the directory where your mail folders are stored. Pine and Berkeley Mail use /mail (lower case m) and Elm uses /Mail (upper case M). 4] To see what the filter rule will do type the following at your Unix prompt: filter -r 5a] Create a ~/.forward file by typing the following. (Pico's -w flag tells pico not to auto wrap lines.) cd pico -w .forward 5b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.forward: "|/usr/local/bin/filter -o /j/nancym/.elm/filter-errors" == IMPORTANT NOTES == * Make sure you include the quotes ("). * The vertical bar (|) is a pipe. * Replace /usr/local/bin with the correct path for filter (see step 1). * Replace /j/nancym with your home directory (see step 2). * Do NOT expect environment variables, like $HOME, to work in your .forward file. * Do NOT expect ~ to mean your home directory in the .forward file. 5c] Note that on many systems you need to make your .forward is world readable and your home directory world searchable in order for the mail transport agent to "see" it. To do this type: cd chmod 644 .forward chmod a+x . 6] Send yourself two test messages: one with ``test'' in the subject and one without ``test'' in the subject. 7a] Start your mailer (pine, elm, etc.) and check that the messages were delivered correctly. The one with ``test'' in the subject should be in the folder IN.testing and the one without ``test'' in the subject should be in your inbox. If these were delivered correctly go on to step 8. 7b] TROUBLESHOOTING * If the two messages were not delivered correctly look at your ~/.elm/filter-errors to see if you can determine what the problem is. * Check these two files for typos: ~/.forward ~/.elm/filter-rules * Check the file and directory permissions of your .forward (set in 5c above). Type... In order to... ------- -------------- cd Go to your home directory. ls -l .forward Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r-- ls -ld . Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each (i.e., drwx--x--x, drwxr-xr-x, drwxr-x--x, drwx--xr-x). * If none of these turn up the problem edit your ~/.forward so that filter will be verbose with it's output (use the -vo flag). "|/usr/local/bin/filter -vo /j/nancym/.elm/filter-errors" And repeat steps 6 and 7. After you get filter to work you will probably want to change the ``-vo'' flag back to ``-o''. 8] After you have successfully tested filter in steps 6 and 7, edit ~/.elm/filter-rules so that it contains a modified version of the following: # if (subject contains "test") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.testing" if (to contains "www-talk") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.www-talk" if (to contains "hopos-l") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.hopos" Replace /j/nancym with your home directory path and /Mail with the name of your mail directory. Replace the mailing list string (e.g., "www-talk") and the name of the mail folder (e.g., IN.www-talk) with text for your mailing lists. Note that ``to contains...'' means either the To or Cc header contains... Rather than deleting the test line, it's useful to just turn it into a comment (by preceding it with #) so that you can easily use it for future testing. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:04:20 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 4.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail Followup-To: comp.mail.elm You can get a short summary of filter's activity by typing: filter -s For a longer summary type: filter -S Or you can look at the log file itself, ~/.elm/filterlog. You should regularly look at ~/.elm/filter-errors to make sure things are working. You can automatically check filter-errors each time you log in by putting the following in your .login: tail ~/.elm/filter-errors Also you probably want to regularly delete filterlog and filter-errors so they don't fill up your disk space. To get a summary of the filter log and clear it type: filter -cs ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:04:30 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 4.3 Filter References Followup-To: comp.mail.elm Web Pages: http://www.myxa.com/elm.html http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/elm.filter.html FAQs: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/elm/top.html Man Pages: filter(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:05:00 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 5.0 Mailer and Newsreader References PINE ==== Web Pages: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ FAQ: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/faq/ ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/faq Man Pages: pine(1), pico(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.pine (linked to Pine mailing list) Mailing List: pine-info@cac.washington.edu (linked to Pine newsgroup) Subscribe to the pine-info mailing list by sending mail to: majordomo@cac.washington.edu With... subscribe pine-info in the body of the message. ELM === Web Pages: http://www.myxa.com/elm.html http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ FAQs: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/elm/top.html Man Pages: elm(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm Emacs Mail Mode =============== Newsgroups: gnus.emacs.help and comp.emacs FAQ: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/GNU-Emacs-FAQ/part5/faq.html MH == FAQ: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mh-faq/top.html Man Pages: mh(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.mh MAIL ==== Man Pages: mail(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.misc NN == Web Pages: http://www.best.com/~ii/internet/nn/ FAQs: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/nn-faq/top.html Man Pages: nn(1) Newsgroup: news.software.nn (Please send me pointers to other mailer and newsreader references and let me know what newsreaders can read mail folders.) ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 6.0 Contributors This FAQ, like many others, is a collaborative effort. I learned a lot of the information in newsgroups and mailing lists, especially: comp.mail.* procmail mailing list Also, lots of people have mailed me information and I've tried to acknowledge them below. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:06:10 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 6.1 Acknowledgements Thanks to these people who sent suggestions: David L. Miller Cookie Monster Jim Showalter David W. Tamkin Rick Troxel Stephen R. van den Berg Syd Weinstein Special thanks to: Thomas A. Fine for setting up and maintaining the hypertext archive of FAQs. Congratulations to him for winning O'Reilly and Associates' "The Best of the Net" award! Please let me know if I've left you, or anyone else, out of this list. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:06:20 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 6.2 Contributing to this FAQ If you have any corrections, suggestions, or new digest items to contribute to this FAQ please send them to faq-editor@ii.com. If your reader understands the following URL, you can use it to send me mail: mailto:faq-editor@ii.com. Things I'm especially interested in are: * a comparison of mail filtering tools * what newsreaders can read mail folders * instructions for opening a specific folder in various readers * lock scheme and files used by various readers * other Unix filtering tools, like deliver * filtering tools for other operating systems like the Mac and DOS/Windows ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:07:00 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 7.0 Copyright Notice This FAQ is Copyright (c) 1994, 1995 Nancy McGough, except sections 2.2.2 and 3.0 through 3.6 which are Copyright (c) 1994, 1995 by the authors named in those sections. No portion of this work may be sold or put to commercial use without express written consent of the authors. This restriction covers publication in any form, or distribution by any method, which permits this work to be visually perceived, either directly or with the aid of any machine or device. Permission is granted to republish or redistribute this article in its entirety for noncommercial use if this copyright notice is not removed or altered. End of Filtering Mail Digest **************************** -- /\_/\ @..@ /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) http://www.halcyon.com/nancym/ ( o.o ) > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 17 20:50:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19764; Mon, 17 Apr 95 20:50:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28385; Mon, 17 Apr 95 20:47:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from wor-srv.wam.umd.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28379; Mon, 17 Apr 95 20:47:14 -0700 Received: from rac5.wam.umd.edu (mcyip@rac5.wam.umd.edu [128.8.70.121]) by wor-srv.wam.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA19828 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 23:47:06 -0400 Received: (mcyip@localhost) by rac5.wam.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) id XAA09674; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 23:47:04 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 23:47:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "M. Yip" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Lost of inbox mails Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, Two days ago I used Next Machine to log in my wam account, but after I typed xmh all of my inbox mail were disappeared. I would like to know if there is any possible way to put all those mails back to my account mcyip@wam.umd.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 17 23:37:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23867; Mon, 17 Apr 95 23:37:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11272; Mon, 17 Apr 95 23:34:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11266; Mon, 17 Apr 95 23:34:20 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10300; Mon, 17 Apr 95 23:34:15 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 23:34:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Nischal Sheth Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: TakeAddr Command In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII No, but that's how it will work in 3.92 if you're taking from a single message. Thanks for the suggestion. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Tue, 11 Apr 1995, Nischal Sheth wrote: > Is there any way to force pine to search the entire message and not just the > headers when the TakeAddr command (T) is issued. This could be quite useful > when I receive email addresses of people as part of a message. > > Thanks, > Nischal. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 17 23:46:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24164; Mon, 17 Apr 95 23:46:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00655; Mon, 17 Apr 95 23:42:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00649; Mon, 17 Apr 95 23:42:42 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10501; Mon, 17 Apr 95 23:42:40 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 23:42:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Chenhui Feng Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Want an easy way to edit address book. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 13 Apr 1995, Chenhui Feng wrote: > Hi, > > I think I've read similar questions before, but I can't remember the > answer. I really want to know if there is an easier way to maintain my > address book. Say, I have a file with a bunch of e-mail address in it, > how can I add them into my address book? Using editor doesn't work. It > seems the address book for 'pine' has some special format not just > plain text. The format of the address book is given in the technical notes which are in the doc directory of the source distribution. Your problem is probably caused by the fact that the fields are separated by a single TAB character, not by spaces. > Also if I want to add someone's address to an existing list, > what else can I do instead of typing them one by one? > > Thanks a lot in advance. > > Chen If the address is a header of a message you're viewing you can use the TakeAddress command. Go into ListMode, do the Take, and type the nickname of the list. (If there is only one address in the message Pine tries to "optimize" the number of keystrokes you need to use and will skip straight to adding a new entry to the address book, which isn't what you want in this case. You can work around that by first Selecting the message and then doing an Apply Take, which goes into ListMode. 3.92 won't have this oddity.) If the address you want to add is just another entry in the address book there is nothing you can do other than to use the Z command to add to the list. You can type the nickname rather than the full address, though. 3.92 will have the capability of Taking an address from the addressbook and adding it to a list in the addressbook, saving you the typing. Hope this answers your questions. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 18 00:00:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24526; Tue, 18 Apr 95 00:00:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11565; Mon, 17 Apr 95 23:55:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11559; Mon, 17 Apr 95 23:55:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1724-00038OC; Mon, 17 Apr 95 23:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: peterh@cloud9.net (Someone) Subject: pico Date: 18 Apr 1995 05:21:56 GMT Message-Id: <3mvi9k$clm@news.cloud9.net> Couldn't find anywhere for pico questions and this is the closest thing so why not. I'm wondering if there is a is to suspend (aka ^Z) pico on Unix. This seems a bit pointless yes, but I was curious if it's possible. Anyone know? Peter -- peterh@cloud9.net http://www/cloud9.net/~peterh From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 18 00:16:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24874; Tue, 18 Apr 95 00:16:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00978; Tue, 18 Apr 95 00:11:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gateway1.DHL.COM by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00972; Tue, 18 Apr 95 00:11:13 -0700 Received: from lhrsys1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM by gateway1.DHL.COM id aa08717; 18 Apr 95 0:48 PDT Received: from lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM by lhrsys1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM with SMTP (1.38.193.5/2.03-DSI) id AA05219; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 08:18:34 +0100 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 08:11:02 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM X-Sender: stares@lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.dhl.com To: Mike Jelineo Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: How to get Receipt? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are my own and not my employers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 17 Apr 1995, Mike Jelineo wrote: Mike, Pine does not have any form of Return-Receipt-To built in but if you are using sendmail as your MTA, then you can get receipts. This is done by adding a Return-Receipt-To: customised header to your pine.conf file. Note that you *should* not put Retun-Receipt-To: in the header section of sendmail.cf as this would mean that every email would get a receipt. Also the Return-Receipt-To: function is meant for debugging purposes only and is not intended as a delivery notification service. In addtion, this may not always work as ir requires a flag (F=l) to be set in the receiving sendmail.cf file for it to work. If you are not getting replies from people for a long time, this could be for a couple of reasons. 1) The peole who you are sending email to, get so much email that it takes them a long time to answer (or they have other priorities, which means that they do not read email that often :-) 2) The return (or sending) path of the emai means that the email itself is taking a long time to get to your recipients. If your email has to go through 3 gateways and each takes 1/2 day to deal with it (extreme I agree), it would take 1 1/2 days for your email to get there ! Another thing to think about is that some people will not thank you for asking for delivery notification/return-receipt as there are still people who have to pay for email traffic Stuart CC'd to the pine mailing list for others to read > Hi All-- > I would like to know about having a Return Receipt Generated when the > person reads the message so that I will know if they had or not. > Sometimes I don't get replys from people for a really long time and I am > curious if there was a way to get a Return Receipt once someone reads the > message. > > --Mike Jelineo > > BTW - Please Send All Answers to My E-mail Address instead of Posting it > To comp.mail.pine. I like getting answers via Private e-mail....! > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Mike Jelineo > mjelineo@pacifier.com Vancouver, WA USA > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ---- Stuart Tares Email : Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM Senior Network Analyst Voice : +44 181 742 4060 DHL Systems Ltd, CSG Europe & Africa Region From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 18 02:51:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28954; Tue, 18 Apr 95 02:51:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03017; Tue, 18 Apr 95 02:44:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03011; Tue, 18 Apr 95 02:44:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s19nX-00038QC; Tue, 18 Apr 95 02:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) Subject: PICO composer Date: 18 Apr 1995 08:41:48 GMT Message-Id: <3mvu0c$qro@news.primenet.com> Using Pine's PICO editor as opposed to configuring for one's choice of editor, I'm curious if there are keys for jumping to the end of the current document or to the beginning. I can find at best only keys for scrolling one screen at a time, forward or backward. Nothing about going to the end/beginning of the document so I was wondering if that exists. bob brody@primenet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 18 03:51:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00498; Tue, 18 Apr 95 03:51:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14840; Tue, 18 Apr 95 03:42:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14834; Tue, 18 Apr 95 03:42:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1Aeq-00038OC; Tue, 18 Apr 95 03:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ruberti@cli.unipi.it (Ruberti Stefano) Subject: Pine and Sendmail 8.6.11 by berkeley Date: 18 Apr 1995 07:50:15 GMT Message-Id: <3mvqvn$faq@serra.unipi.it> Hi, I have install a version 8.6.11 of sendmail by Berkeley and I use a feature "user databese" for rewrute and masquarade a user sender address. No problem whebn I use elm program, but when I use PINE v. 3.91 or previos release nothing work. It seems that PINE don't read or use this feature of sendmail. Anybody know some solution for my problem? Many thanks for all. Stefano Ruberti From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 18 04:13:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01617; Tue, 18 Apr 95 04:13:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04051; Tue, 18 Apr 95 04:05:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04028; Tue, 18 Apr 95 04:05:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1B2b-00038OC; Tue, 18 Apr 95 04:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Philip Nelson Subject: VMS IMAP and APPEND sent to do fcc Date: 18 Apr 1995 01:53:38 GMT Message-Id: <3mv632$hc4@netnet2.netnet.net> When I set up a default fcc in Winsock Pine I get a message saying that the IMAP server doesn't have an APPEND message. We use the PMDF IMAP server. Also when you set up the fcc folder with the setup option you get the error that IMAP doesn't know the CREATE command. Any suggestions? _Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 18 05:23:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03386; Tue, 18 Apr 95 05:23:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04902; Tue, 18 Apr 95 05:18:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pluto.mscc.huji.ac.il by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04896; Tue, 18 Apr 95 05:18:32 -0700 Received: by pluto.mscc.huji.ac.il (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA28500; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 15:17:05 +0300 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 15:17:05 +0300 (WET) From: Stuart Schnee To: pine info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When I send a message I have lately received a message along the lines of "internal error" or "external error" not enough room etc etc. Then I can't send the message. What exactly does this mean, and what do I have to do to solve this problem? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 18 07:01:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05426; Tue, 18 Apr 95 07:01:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17517; Tue, 18 Apr 95 06:51:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17511; Tue, 18 Apr 95 06:51:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1Dbj-00038MC; Tue, 18 Apr 95 06:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: C.Y.Lee@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Chi Yung Lee) Subject: Posting news with pine 3.91, Failed! Message-Id: <1995Apr18.033312.458@dcs.warwick.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 03:33:12 GMT Hello, I was trying to post news by using pine but have no luck :< The error message (on screen) said that I don't have the privilage to post but when I checked back to the pine-debug? file, there is a line saying ------------ IMAP 4:9 ....Server NNTP[auth] server version .. ..... (posting ok). ------------ I (guess) tried to enable the preference post-news-without-validation but it doesn't seems to work either. Except pine, I can use trn, Pnews or even "tin from a -remote- host -> I mean not within the same department". Since the pine program was intalled by myself and now I am running out of ideas.. Please someone please give me a hand!! Thanks, -- -|||-----|||- o CY Jeff Lee, University of Warwick Coventry UK o \O/ o MSc. Parallel Computers and Computation o | << oo >> < > << chilee@dcs.warwick.ac.uk oooo cspbp@csv.warwick.ac.uk >> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 18 08:08:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07474; Tue, 18 Apr 95 08:08:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06952; Tue, 18 Apr 95 07:55:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06946; Tue, 18 Apr 95 07:55:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1EeU-00038OC; Tue, 18 Apr 95 07:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bashmore@grouse.amd.com (Buster Ashmore) Subject: Pine bug? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 20:40:46 GMT I have just installed pine 3.91 on my sparc20 and have noticed the following an unusual behavior. The key sequence is as follows: C -- compose ^J -- attachments ^T -- to file move cursor to a directory S -- select ^C -- cancel At this point the command menu is not refreshed. Is this a bug, or a problem with my compile? Cheers, Buster Ashmore buster.ashmore@amd.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 18 09:33:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16934; Tue, 18 Apr 95 09:33:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09284; Tue, 18 Apr 95 09:26:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu10.psi.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09274; Tue, 18 Apr 95 09:26:23 -0700 Received: by uu10.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA17268 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 95 11:42:03 -0400 Received: from itek0.itek (itek0.ARPA) by itek.com (4.1/3.2.083191-A.B.Dick/Itek Graphix) id AA02277; Tue, 18 Apr 95 11:04:58 EDT Received: by itek0.itek (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09872; Tue, 18 Apr 95 11:04:57 EDT Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:04:56 -0400 (EDT) From: scott wagner To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine for Windows NT? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello! I am a novice Pine user & administrator (dangerous combination already!), and I am attempting to set up Pine on a group of Windows NT workstations linked to a Sun mail server. As you see from this message, I have succeeded in building imapd and pine (this was composed on a Sun machine other than the mail server), however PC-pine seems unable to recognize the mail host. I downloaded the pcpine_w.zip version on the assumption that NT is a Winsock setup, and set up inbox as {itek1}INBOX (itek1 is defined as 192.92.84.103 in my NT and Sun hosts files). When I attempt to access my inbox from PC-pine, I get the message [Host not found (#10093): itek1]. Also, when I run Pine on the Sun (e.g. this session), I get the message [Error saving configuration in file "/home/wagner/.pinerc": Cross-device link]. I would appreciate any help you can offer on these problems. Thanks! Scott Wagner (wagner@itek.com) Senior Engineer Itek Graphix Rochester, NY From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 18 09:44:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17271; Tue, 18 Apr 95 09:44:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26567; Tue, 18 Apr 95 09:35:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26561; Tue, 18 Apr 95 09:35:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1GDp-00038QC; Tue, 18 Apr 95 09:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: willer@io.org (Steve Willer) Subject: Re: Newsgroups in Pine 3.91 Date: 18 Apr 1995 02:59:40 -0400 Message-Id: <78rkvAZA/U8G083yn@io.org> References: In article , Jim Jaworski wrote: > What is the current news about an OS/2 version of Pine? I have > already sent my request to Qualcomm when they solicited requestes for this. Other than some quirks, it's done. Basically, it's just addressbooks and arrow-keys in Pine. Nothing big. However, I've been delayed for personal reasons. Qualcomm wanted people to write in asking for Pine? Is it going to be shareware or something? Whenever I release mine, it'll be free and with source, same deal as the usual Pine and PC-Pine. I should note that this is a port of Pine, and not PC-Pine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Willer This space reserved. Team OS/2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 18 10:20:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19165; Tue, 18 Apr 95 10:20:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10525; Tue, 18 Apr 95 10:15:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10519; Tue, 18 Apr 95 10:15:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1Gpz-00038MC; Tue, 18 Apr 95 10:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jaya Sreedharan Subject: Segmentation fault while exceeding quota Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 15:42:54 GMT I have installed pine on our system. We have disk quotas for our users, but it is different for undergrads and others. When they exceed their quota, pine exits with the error "segmentation fault". Even though the system warns them about exceeding their quota when they login, they usually ignore till they cannot get into pine. If they use the system for email only, they have no clue as to what is happening. Pine seems to recreate the .pinerc file after each invocation after making a temporary backup file in the home directory. Is it possible to avoid the "segmentation fault" error by redirecting this to /tmp ? elm seems to work ok in such a situation. Any help will be appeciated. Jaya Sreedharan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 18 12:08:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23457; Tue, 18 Apr 95 12:08:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00426; Tue, 18 Apr 95 11:56:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00416; Tue, 18 Apr 95 11:56:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1IKy-00038OC; Tue, 18 Apr 95 11:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: Pine for rs6000 Date: 18 Apr 1995 12:51:35 -0500 Message-Id: <3n0u77$l7p@paducah.cs.utexas.edu> References: [ cg@cg_home.knoware.nl (Cor de Grauw) wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] -> Where can i get pine for AIX I've compiled PINE for our Departmental IBM's running AIX 2.3. If anyone's interested I can make the binaries available for anonymous ftp. Ananda -- Ananda M. Kar |(H)458-9754 | URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/ananda/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 18 12:42:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25415; Tue, 18 Apr 95 12:42:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13862; Tue, 18 Apr 95 12:36:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from wolverine.utias.utoronto.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13854; Tue, 18 Apr 95 12:36:36 -0700 Received: from localhost (mse@localhost) by wolverine.utias.utoronto.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id PAA21734; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 15:43:30 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 15:43:30 -0400 From: Manfred Sever Message-Id: <199504181943.PAA21734@wolverine.utias.utoronto.ca> To: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Subject: problems with solaris Cc: mse@wolverine.utias.utoronto.ca Hi, I hope that some of you can help me. I'm having trouble building Pine for a Sun Sparc 20 running Solaris 2.4. I untar the tarfile, cd into pine3.91 and type: ``build sol'' The programs: mtest, imapd and pico seem to get built OK, but for pine I get: Making Pine. rm -f os.h ln -s osdep/os-sv4.h os.h ./cmplhlp2.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.h cc -DSV4 -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" -c addrbook.c "/usr/include/stdlib.h", line 141: identifier redeclared: getopt current : function(int, pointer to pointer to char, pointer to char) returning int previous: function(int, pointer to const pointer to char, pointer to const char) returning int : "/usr/include/stdio.h", line 283 "/usr/include/stdlib.h", line 142: identifier redeclared: getsubopt current : function(pointer to pointer to char, pointer to pointer to char, pointer to pointer to char) returning int previous: function(pointer to pointer to char, pointer to const pointer to char, pointer to pointer to char) returning int : "/usr/include/stdio.h", line 285 "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 225: identifier redeclared: rename current : function(pointer to char, pointer to char) returning int previous: function(pointer to const char, pointer to const char) returning int : "/usr/include/stdio.h", line 148 "addrbook.c", line 3954: cannot recover from previous errors cc: acomp failed for addrbook.c *** Error code 2 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `addrbook.o' Links to executables are in bin directory: size: bin/pine: cannot open bin/mtest: 516976 + 26120 + 1896 = 544992 bin/imapd: 544896 + 28144 + 9076 = 582116 bin/pico: 128456 + 24560 + 8140 = 161156 Done Can someone tell me what's wrong and how to fix it? I've never build pine before. Manfred. =============================================================================== Manfred D. M. Sever | | Space Robotics Group, | E-mail: mse@sdr.utias.utoronto.ca University of Toronto | Tel.: (416) 667-7744 (Desk) Institute for Aerospace Studies | (416) 667-7731 (Computer Room) 4925 Dufferin Street | (416) 667-7722 (Lab) Downsview, ON CANADA | Fax: (416) 667-7799 M3H 5T6 | =============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 18 13:05:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26995; Tue, 18 Apr 95 13:05:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14320; Tue, 18 Apr 95 12:56:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14312; Tue, 18 Apr 95 12:56:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1JLx-00038OC; Tue, 18 Apr 95 12:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: q Date: 13 Apr 1995 04:15:17 GMT Message-Id: <3mi8gl$a9h@grape.epix.net> References: <3mhcpg$npu@crl7.crl.com> A followup to my last post (clarification of 1 answer). Harold Jennings Jr. (harold@crl.com) wrote: lotsa stuff and then How do I use this function to avoid this in the future? Use the Delete command (I think it's D) not the ^Kill command. You can only delete messages that YOU posted, you cannot delete other's. Kill is used to screen out messages that you don't care to see (or to have your kids see). You can Kill posts from a specific sender (including yourself, as you have discovered) or you can Kill posts with a specific subject matter (like if you don't want your kids to see posts on a certain thread), etc., or maybe there's some obnoxious person in the group that keeps writing nonesense, etc., there are other sort options, but I don't remember them at the moment. BYE again. DearOldDad From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 18 13:06:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27168; Tue, 18 Apr 95 13:06:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14439; Tue, 18 Apr 95 13:02:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14433; Tue, 18 Apr 95 13:02:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1JRi-00038QC; Tue, 18 Apr 95 13:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Jaworski Subject: Re: Newsgroups in Pine 3.91 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 22:22:35 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 12 Apr 1995, Jim Jaworski wrote: > I have just started to read some of my Usenet news via Pine > 3.91. It's not the best way (compared to using TIN) but it will have to > suffice until my Freenet implements offline reading. > > I have a couple of observations/comments that I would like to make: > > * I don't like to use Pine 3.91 for Usenet if the volume of > messages is greater than 75/day +/- a few. What I really don't like is > having to press the D key to delete articles I have no interest in or > have already viewed. > > * On articles with more than 1 computer output page (25 lines) > Pine will include the last 2 lines from the previous page as part of the > next page. I don't like this 'feature' either. Is there a way of > setting this to OFF like I can in TIN? * I just remembered another qualm I have with Pine 3.91 in reading Usenet groups: I configured my setup to keep all threads together but there is so far no option in keeping the threads also in alphabetical order. This would save some time and having to hit the D key wouldn't be as much of a problem if the threads were sorted alphabetically. What is the current news about an OS/2 version of Pine? I have already sent my request to Qualcomm when they solicited requestes for this. Winnipeg MB Canada soo696@freenet.mb.ca TEAM OS/2 MIME OK Proud to be a non-hyphenated Polish Canadian! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 18 13:08:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27290; Tue, 18 Apr 95 13:08:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02282; Tue, 18 Apr 95 13:02:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02276; Tue, 18 Apr 95 13:02:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1JQv-00038OC; Tue, 18 Apr 95 12:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Jaworski Subject: Newsgroups in Pine 3.91 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 22:16:09 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have just started to read some of my Usenet news via Pine 3.91. It's not the best way (compared to using TIN) but it will have to suffice until my Freenet implements offline reading. I have a couple of observations/comments that I would like to make: * I don't like to use Pine 3.91 for Usenet if the volume of messages is greater than 75/day +/- a few. What I really don't like is having to press the D key to delete articles I have no interest in or have already viewed. * On articles with more than 1 computer output page (25 lines) Pine will include the last 2 lines from the previous page as part of the next page. I don't like this 'feature' either. Is there a way of setting this to OFF like I can in TIN? Any help would be appreciated. Winnipeg MB Canada soo696@freenet.mb.ca TEAM OS/2 MIME OK Proud to be a non-hyphenated Polish Canadian! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 18 13:30:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28337; Tue, 18 Apr 95 13:30:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03073; Tue, 18 Apr 95 13:23:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03067; Tue, 18 Apr 95 13:23:15 -0700 Received: from trex (trex.kwantlen.bc.ca) by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA22715; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:22:47 -0700 Received: by trex (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA09785; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:22:45 +0800 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:22:44 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dumaresq X-Sender: david@trex To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: When is offline reading planned? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 526 Any word on when offline reading will be available for Pine? Thanks for the light. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 18 14:30:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01481; Tue, 18 Apr 95 14:30:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04458; Tue, 18 Apr 95 14:17:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04452; Tue, 18 Apr 95 14:17:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1KYl-00038OC; Tue, 18 Apr 95 14:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: huangye@duff.brc.uconn.edu (Ye Huang) Subject: What's the newest version of pine? Date: 18 Apr 1995 14:04:34 GMT Message-Id: <3n0gti$mca@bellboy.ucc.uconn.edu> Hi, can someone please tell me what the newest version of pine is? Ye Huang From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 18 17:51:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11183; Tue, 18 Apr 95 17:51:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21316; Tue, 18 Apr 95 17:48:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21310; Tue, 18 Apr 95 17:48:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1NrR-00038OC; Tue, 18 Apr 95 17:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mkw9780@silver.sdsmt.edu (marijane white) Subject: Re: PICO composer Date: 18 Apr 1995 21:22:57 GMT Message-Id: <3n1ajh$ckp@krypton.hpc.sdsmt.edu> References: <3mvu0c$qro@news.primenet.com> Bob Brody (brody@primenet.com) wrote: : Using Pine's PICO editor as opposed to configuring for one's choice of : editor, I'm curious if there are keys for jumping to the end of the : current document or to the beginning. I can find at best only keys : for scrolling one screen at a time, forward or backward. Nothing about : going to the end/beginning of the document so I was wondering if that : exists. ^W for Whereis then ^Y (beginning) or ^V (end) i use these _a lot_. marijane -- Welcome to Earth. It's hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It's round and wet and crowded. -- mkw9780@silver.sdsmt.edu -- http://silver.sdsmt.edu/~mkw9780 -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 18 17:55:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11288; Tue, 18 Apr 95 17:55:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09477; Tue, 18 Apr 95 17:52:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09469; Tue, 18 Apr 95 17:52:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1Nw0-00038QC; Tue, 18 Apr 95 17:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mkw9780@silver.sdsmt.edu (marijane white) Subject: Re: Segmentation fault while exceeding quota Date: 18 Apr 1995 21:28:31 GMT Message-Id: <3n1atv$ckp@krypton.hpc.sdsmt.edu> References: Jaya Sreedharan (jaya@server.uwindsor.ca) wrote: : I have installed pine on our system. We have disk quotas for our users, : but it is different for undergrads and others. When they exceed their : quota, pine exits with the error "segmentation fault". Even though the : system warns them about exceeding their quota when they login, they : usually ignore till they cannot get into pine. If they use the system : for email only, they have no clue as to what is happening. my school's unix system boots us into unix mail upon login if we exceed our disk quota, and we can't do anything until we delete enough to get below our quota. it's kind of a pain in the neck, but, i've never experienced the error you speak of. -- marijane -- Welcome to Earth. It's hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It's round and wet and crowded. -- mkw9780@silver.sdsmt.edu -- http://silver.sdsmt.edu/~mkw9780 -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 18 19:06:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12975; Tue, 18 Apr 95 19:06:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10507; Tue, 18 Apr 95 18:58:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Paul.spu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10501; Tue, 18 Apr 95 18:58:01 -0700 Received: by paul.spu.edu; id AA09684; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:58:00 -0700 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:58:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole Dawn Chambers To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When I log onto pine, the computer beeps at me and says error in user nchamber file, disk quota excedded. I have tried to take care of this, I have even contacted my local support team. They told me to type rm piner******* at the spu@paul.edu prompt. I did this and nothing happened! Can anyone help me? Thanks! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 18 19:55:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14107; Tue, 18 Apr 95 19:55:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22936; Tue, 18 Apr 95 19:48:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22930; Tue, 18 Apr 95 19:48:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1Pl9-00038OC; Tue, 18 Apr 95 19:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Clifford A. Anderson" Subject: Re: newsgroup question in 3.91 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 16:47:13 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 14 Apr 1995, The Guy wrote: > Hello, how can I post a folloup article to a post in a newsgroup ? When I > press C it took me as if I wanted to post a NEW article... R - Reply. ______________________________________________________ _________|If con is the |Given that God is infinite, and |_________ \ |opposite of pro, is |that the Universe is also | / \ |congress the opposite|infinite..... would you like a | / \ |of progress? |toasted tea cake? | / \ |------------------------------------------------------| / \ |GCS -d+ H+ s:+ g+ p? !au a- W++++ V++ C++++ UB++++ P+ | / / |L 3+ N+ E K+++ w--- M-- v-- -po+ Y+ t+ 5++ !j R G' tv+| \ / |b+ D+ B-- e+ u* h++ f+ r++ n---- y* | \ / | - PGP key available via finger| \ / |______________________________________________________| \ /____________) (___________\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 18 21:36:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16442; Tue, 18 Apr 95 21:36:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12796; Tue, 18 Apr 95 21:27:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12790; Tue, 18 Apr 95 21:27:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1RLL-00038OC; Tue, 18 Apr 95 21:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bhaase@ecommerce.com (Bill Haase) Subject: Re: Pine under Unixware Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 05:30:58 GMT Message-Id: References: In article "Daryl D. Rester" writes: Yup. It works great! You can get the binaries from ftp.novell.de >Does anyone have the Pine3.91 system working under Unixware 1.1? >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >DARYL D. RESTER, SYSTEM PROGRAMMER | FAX (601)984-1724 >UNIVERSITY OF MISSISSIPPI MEDICAL CENTER | OFFICE (601)984-1162 >COMPUTER SERVICES DIVISION | MESSAGES (601)984-1140 >2500 N. STATE STREET | >JACKSON, MS 39216-4505 | INTERNET rester@fiona.umsmed.edu >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 18 22:04:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17112; Tue, 18 Apr 95 22:04:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24557; Tue, 18 Apr 95 21:57:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24551; Tue, 18 Apr 95 21:57:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1Rkw-00038MC; Tue, 18 Apr 95 21:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: robp@cais.com (Rob Pegoraro) Subject: Re: Cut and Paste Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 02:06:18 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3msiou$1e5@smarty.smart.net> In article <3msiou$1e5@smarty.smart.net>, Gail Harless wrote: > I would like to be able to paste a portion of one message into another > message. Is there a way to do this? Are you using pine in a "dumb terminal" window (ZTerm, ProComm, CrossTalk, etc.)? Then cut and paste with your terminal program's "edit" menu. Most term programs are very cooperative with large volumes of data being cut and pasted; it just gets treated as a sort of mini-upload and download, as far as I can tell. Anyway, you should have no problem doing that. And if you're sitting in front of the Unix box in question? I have no idea at all of what to do. Maybe save an article as ASCII text, then cut and uncut into the other article. I'm no expert at that, so *don't* take my work on it. Cheers, Rob robp@cais.com ==================================================== Rob Pegoraro Work address: pegoraror@washpost.com Arlington, Va. But I'm speaking only for myself here. =============================== http://www.cais.com/robp/home.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 00:07:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21061; Wed, 19 Apr 95 00:07:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15069; Tue, 18 Apr 95 23:52:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15063; Tue, 18 Apr 95 23:52:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1Tb8-00038MC; Tue, 18 Apr 95 23:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: Using Pine To Read News Message-Id: <1737F9DE7S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <3mhvnv$vgs@alpha.wright.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 10:12:33 GMT In article pmb1@tmphost.york.ac.uk (Mike Brudenell) writes: (in reply to question about threading) >You need to use Pine's "sort" command: $ If I'm not mistaken, Pine does not really support viewing "threads" in the technical sense, ie. via the references header. Sorting on the subject field would be the best you can get. Of course, if someone changes the subject it will appear as a new thread, even though the references header is threaded correctly. Conversely, when someone posts a followup without a proper references header, PINE will treat it as part of the same thread, as long as the subject field is unchanged, whereas a newsreader that goes only on references headers would treat it as a new thread. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 00:24:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21371; Wed, 19 Apr 95 00:24:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26356; Wed, 19 Apr 95 00:18:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26350; Wed, 19 Apr 95 00:18:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1TxG-00038MC; Wed, 19 Apr 95 00:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 wants to move sent-mail Date: 19 Apr 1995 04:35:20 GMT Message-Id: <3n23u8$40m@grape.epix.net> References: <3mp3p1$91k@Mercury.mcs.com> Jay F. Rothschild (jfroths@MCS.COM) wrote: : Everytime a user starts Pine 3.91 (SCO Unix) it asks: Move current : "sent-mail" to "sent-mail-mar-1995"?. Actually not everytime, the : next time it asks: To save disk space, delete old SENT mail folder : "sent-mail-mar-1995"? : Answering yes each time. Is this normal behavior? Or can anyone suggest : what to do to stop this? There is a /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed file. : Also I get messages stating my options conflict with system defaults. : How do I stop this? OK that's something your server has programmed, but yes it's normal. What you should do is the following ... sometime around the third week of the month look thru your email files (both inbox and sent mail) and move them to another file. Now assuming you're working in pine ... make a folder called 'golf-save' or 'ski-save' or 'sex-save' or whatever ... then move the messages to those folders. pine doesna use the move command, use s for save (maybe it's ^s) whatever, then save them to the other folder ... hope this has confused you enough ... please feel free to email me if this is not clear ... which upon re-reading it I'm sure it's not. RE your options conflicting with system defaults ... etc ... you can either accept the system defaults, or read the message ... your choice ... hmmmmm ... DearOldDad /~~~/~~~/~~~/\ /\/\ /\ / / / / \/\/ POCONO MTNS PA DearOldDad:The older I get, the smarter I used to be./ \/\jgvd@epix.net Jonathan:Kids are people too; Have guitar, will travel.\ \/\ \ /\ \ Thought for the day: / / / / / / \/ \ \/ \/\ None:My mind is temporarily out of order. /___/___/___/___/____\/____\_\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 00:42:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21891; Wed, 19 Apr 95 00:42:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15488; Wed, 19 Apr 95 00:27:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15482; Wed, 19 Apr 95 00:27:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1U7P-00038MC; Wed, 19 Apr 95 00:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mraaum@ask.uio.no (Margrete Raaum) Subject: Highlighting in Pine Date: 18 Apr 1995 13:57:13 GMT Message-Id: <3n0gfp$c68@hermod.uio.no> I have a problem with highlighting in pine and a braille display. The display can show what for instance Word Perfect calls "highlighted", "underlined" and "invers video". Pine is ascii- based and we are having a hard time getting the braille display to show what is highlighted in pine, which is not so strange as I suppose it is only a matter of escape-sequences. Does anybody have an idea as to how to solve this problem? Are there any blind people using Pine out there? (how exactly does pine highlight?) Margrete -- *** Murgo optimo maximo From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 04:55:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29050; Wed, 19 Apr 95 04:55:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29479; Wed, 19 Apr 95 04:45:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from is1.hk.super.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29473; Wed, 19 Apr 95 04:45:07 -0700 Received: by is1.hk.super.net id AA26337 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for Pine-Info ); Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:45:03 +0800 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:45:03 +0800 (HKT) From: Kevin Yeung To: Pine-Info Subject: Killing and riddance of sent-mail Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi everybody, Can I have a kill file for _news_? I know I can use procmail to filter unwanted emails to /dev/null (I'm already doing so), but how about the news? Or will this be implemented into newer pine? Second question, I _do_ want to have sent-mail, except for mailing lists such as pine-info because what I've written will be sent back to me anyway. No point of keeping two copies. But when I edit my address book, I can't change the default sent-mail to empty. So, how do I change only certain entries in address book not to have sent-mail? Can I put /dev/null there? (Haven't tried this, just thought of this 2 seconds ago :) ) Thanks for your time. -- Kevin Yeung email: keviny@hk.super.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 05:09:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29491; Wed, 19 Apr 95 05:09:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29675; Wed, 19 Apr 95 05:03:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29669; Wed, 19 Apr 95 05:03:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1YQb-00038MC; Wed, 19 Apr 95 05:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: VMS IMAP and APPEND sent to do fcc Message-Id: <173849C9AS86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <3mv632$hc4@netnet2.netnet.net> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 10:08:08 GMT In article <3mv632$hc4@netnet2.netnet.net> Philip Nelson writes: >When I set up a default fcc in Winsock Pine I get a message saying >that the IMAP server doesn't have an APPEND message. We use the PMDF >IMAP server. ... any suggestions? Yes, I have a suggestion. Use the same work-around as I use with Yehavi's VMS port of PINE, and configure a "customized header" of Bcc: to yourself. Of course, the resulting mail will turn up in your new mail folder, rather than in your FCC folder, but it's better than nothing. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 09:46:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10338; Wed, 19 Apr 95 09:46:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24749; Wed, 19 Apr 95 09:34:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24743; Wed, 19 Apr 95 09:34:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1ceq-00038MC; Wed, 19 Apr 95 09:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ngolego@uoguelph.ca (Nickolay V Golego) Subject: "xbtoa Begin" string?... Date: 19 Apr 1995 14:11:19 GMT Message-Id: <3n35m7$jjq@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> Hi there, I received the message in Pmail which looks like: xbtoa Begin [...] xbtoa End [...] Could anyone give me a hint how to decode and read it? Usual uudecode didn't work on it. Thanks, -- Nick From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 11:01:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13960; Wed, 19 Apr 95 11:01:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26424; Wed, 19 Apr 95 10:47:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26418; Wed, 19 Apr 95 10:47:17 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11678; Wed, 19 Apr 95 10:47:07 -0700 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 10:47:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Margrete Raaum Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Highlighting in Pine In-Reply-To: <3n0gfp$c68@hermod.uio.no> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 18 Apr 1995, Margrete Raaum wrote: > I have a problem with highlighting in pine > and a braille display. The display can show what > for instance Word Perfect calls "highlighted", > "underlined" and "invers video". Pine is ascii- > based and we are having a hard time getting > the braille display to show what is highlighted > in pine, which is not so strange as I suppose > it is only a matter of escape-sequences. > > Does anybody have an idea as to how to solve > this problem? > Are there any blind people using Pine out there? > (how exactly does pine highlight?) > > Margrete If pine is using termcap it uses the so and se attributes from the termcap entry to start and end highlighting. These are typically set to the ANSI escape sequences ESC [ 7 m to go into highlighting mode, and ESC [ m to go back out of highlighting mode. They could be set up differently. I also want to mention that the next version of Pine will have a couple minor improvements that should help blind users, like a show-cursor feature to get the cursor to move to a more interesting place. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 11:20:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14783; Wed, 19 Apr 95 11:20:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06599; Wed, 19 Apr 95 11:13:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06593; Wed, 19 Apr 95 11:13:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1eFq-00038MC; Wed, 19 Apr 95 11:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cg@cg_home.knoware.nl (Cor de Grauw) Subject: Pine for rs6000 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 14:43:32 GMT Where can i get pine for AIX From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 11:38:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15547; Wed, 19 Apr 95 11:38:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06997; Wed, 19 Apr 95 11:29:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06991; Wed, 19 Apr 95 11:29:03 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13518; Wed, 19 Apr 95 11:28:59 -0700 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:28:58 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Ye Huang Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: What's the newest version of pine? In-Reply-To: <3n0gti$mca@bellboy.ucc.uconn.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 3.91 |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 18 Apr 1995, Ye Huang wrote: > Date: 18 Apr 1995 14:04:34 GMT > From: Ye Huang > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: What's the newest version of pine? > > Hi, > > can someone please tell me what the newest version of pine is? > > Ye Huang > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 11:54:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16325; Wed, 19 Apr 95 11:54:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27843; Wed, 19 Apr 95 11:40:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27837; Wed, 19 Apr 95 11:40:00 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14044; Wed, 19 Apr 95 11:39:57 -0700 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:39:55 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Can I pass a value "through" or "around" Pine? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You can set the alternate-editor variable on the command line with something like pine -alternate-editor="emacs foobar" The same technique works for any .pinerc variable... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 4 Apr 1995, J. Kelly Cunningham wrote: > Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 16:38:31 -0600 > From: J. Kelly Cunningham > Subject: Can I pass a value "through" or "around" Pine? > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > I want to call Pine from a script. Pine will call another script as an > alternate editor. > > Can I pass the value of a variable from the first script to the alternate > editor without using an environment variable? An environment variable is > out of the question. :) > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.1 > Comment: Processed by mkpgp1.0, a Pine/PGP interface. > > iQCVAgUBL4F1zOBu0383Om6dAQFkLwP/aodNKzJvOTn69zPXc9VVTSvxGV6+mNVo > y40embZrSv0ULIhjXkYyBdjd1DvpEaRe8Pzy+QZuU9qpZT5/gYmb5qv2ckIDzFN3 > TSxotAW+58s6T9R/hnTAojyynpIJJqQqZE7An+Km47ICIrOIoeBQ0nxNWxSHYqZa > PXObgz7sRHQ= > =tlq3 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka > "The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear > arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." > -- Thomas Jefferson > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 13:00:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20647; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:00:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29505; Wed, 19 Apr 95 12:46:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29499; Wed, 19 Apr 95 12:46:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1fdc-00038MC; Wed, 19 Apr 95 12:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matthew Majka Subject: Re: .plan using pico Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:59:12 GMT pico .plan ^O ^X ls -al make sure the permissions on . are drwxr-xr-x if they aren't, type: chmod og+rx . ls -l .plan make sure the permissions on .plan are -rw-r--r-- if not, type: chmod og+r .plan That should do it. [1m __ |_/\ ,--,;\) ,-"-..._\ \_...._( ) |a a )`| ___ /`._ / / Matthew Majka -==[___]\/; \' ~~~~~~~ ~~~~~ `B-'|_`,) <'/||8`> mmajka@tinygee.dasd.honeywell.com __|::| (__.';| (_) [0m From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 13:11:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24736; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:11:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09229; Wed, 19 Apr 95 12:59:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09223; Wed, 19 Apr 95 12:58:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1fpm-00038MC; Wed, 19 Apr 95 12:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cyril@cli53bq.der.edf.fr (Cyrille Lefevre) Subject: Re: Mailbox format for /usr/spool/mail/???????? Date: 19 Apr 1995 17:55:54 GMT Message-Id: References: <3n33qa$jf0@news3.digex.net> In-Reply-To: tdarcos@access5.digex.net's message of 19 Apr 1995 13:39:22 GMT In article <3n33qa$jf0@news3.digex.net> tdarcos@access5.digex.net (Paul Robinson) writes: & On a unix system, I believe the standard mailbox name for each user is as & specified above, with ? replaced by the user's login name. I'd like to & know if there is a standard document describing how those mailbox files & are defined so I can read Unix mailboxes on a PC. try the pop protocol, I think pine can use this protocol. pop may be reached at ftp://ftp.cc.berkeley.edu/pub/pop/... if you can't use pop, get it, you'll find much of your answers in its C source code. -- The above opinions are all my own work, and do not represent those of EDF _____________________________________ _____________________________________ / \/ \ | Electricite De France | Cyrille.Lefevre@ici.der.edf.fr | | Direction des Etudes & Recherches | | | 1, Avenue du General de Gaulle | Phone: +33 (1) 47 65 30 58 | | 92141 Clamart Cedex - France | Fax: +33 (1) 47 65 30 01 | \_____________________________________/\_____________________________________/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 13:33:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25535; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:33:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10219; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:29:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10213; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:29:31 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22049; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:29:25 -0700 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:29:23 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jim Cohan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Running pine with newsgroup loaded In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Try something like pine -inbox-path=\*\{news.u/nntp\}comp.mail.pine |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 3 Apr 1995, Jim Cohan wrote: > Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 22:47:47 -0500 > From: Jim Cohan > Subject: Running pine with newsgroup loaded > > > We are looking for a way to start pine with a newsgroup loaded similar to > starting it with a folder opened using the -f option. > > We would like to start pine from a menu option (ie pine comp.mail.pine) > and have the newsgroup loaded and the index screen displayed. Anyone > have any ideas? > > Jim > > ****************************************************************************** > Jim Cohan jcohan@freenet.mb.ca > Information Provider Administrator Home: (204) 254-1471 > Blue Sky Free-Net of Manitoba Work: (204) 474-3607 > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 13:36:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25655; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:36:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06067; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:31:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06061; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:31:15 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22082; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:31:06 -0700 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:31:05 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Bob Hogue Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Margins in pico In-Reply-To: <3lsg7j$54f@news.ysu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We are currently looking into that option... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 4 Apr 1995, Bob Hogue wrote: > Date: 4 Apr 1995 22:12:03 GMT > From: Bob Hogue > Subject: Margins in pico > > I'm aware that control-J will rejustify a paragraph for me while using > the pico editor, but is there a way to change what it uses for the line > length when rejustifying? I'd like to make the lines a bit shorter than > what pico defaults to. Tnx for any help. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Hogue Computer & Information Sciences > Internet: bob@cis.ysu.edu Youngstown State University > Phone: 216/742-1775 Youngstown, OH 44555 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 13:44:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26070; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:44:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06306; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:40:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06300; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:40:42 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22399; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:40:41 -0700 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:25:40 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Uwe Richter Subject: Re: Has PINE 3.91 been ported to OSF/1 3.0? In-Reply-To: <3lr9i2$occ@fsuj01.rz.uni-jena.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: The "osf" port of Pine 3.91 works on our OSF/1 3.0 systems... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 4 Apr 1995, Uwe Richter wrote: > Date: 4 Apr 1995 11:12:02 GMT > From: Uwe Richter > Subject: Has PINE 3.91 been ported to OSF/1 3.0? > > Has anybody compiled the PINE package under DEC OSF/1, including > IMAP? > > Many thanks in advance > Uwe > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 13:46:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26253; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:46:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06296; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:40:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06290; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:40:27 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22385; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:40:26 -0700 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:39:46 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Michael Warren Subject: Re: Trouble with sendmail and the X-Status line In-Reply-To: <9504051651.AA07454@medsup.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: I'm not sure about mtest off the top of my head, but in Pine you can set the smtp-server variable in the Setup/Config screen or /usr/local/lib/pine.conf file to point to your remote mail hub. The X-Status: header is where Pine (via c-client) stores message flags, e.g. Deleted, Answered, ... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 5 Apr 1995, Michael Warren wrote: > Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 16:51:12 +0000 > From: Michael Warren > Subject: Trouble with sendmail and the X-Status line > > Hi, I have 2 problems getting pine to work with sendmail > We are running of SCO Unix. > Problem 1: > Hi, we have a dedicated mail hub running smtp. > I have gotten mtest to compile, but I can't get it to connect to the server > running smtp. When I hit S to send and end the message, I get errors saying > no local mailhost, can't connect to localhost port 25, etc... > If we run smtp as a daemon on the local host, it connects to the server > and sends the mail via sendmail just fine. However, our sysadmin doesn't > want to have to keep daemons running on all our servers and would like > to keep the one hub running. > Problem 2: > When we do send mail and turn around and read it with pine and/or mtest and > then quit, it puts an X-Status line after the Status line. > It doesn't put anything else, just X-Status: > When we use mail from the command line, it says that the mail box may be > corrupted. I have went in and deleted the X-Status line, put a O and a R > after the X-Status line, and after saving the mail file then re-reading > it with unix command line mail, it doesn't say it's corrupted. > What I need to know is the best way to solve this problem. > Do I need that X-Status line? > I have went into the /imap/ANSI/c-client directory, greped for all > X-Status, (found 2. 1 in bezerk.c and another in mmdf.c) and commented > them out. > However, it still writes that darned X-Status line. > I hope I made this clear enough. If you think you might know something > that would help, please get in touch with me. > Thanks so much > Michael Warren > mwarren@medsup.com > 1-800-467-0873 ext. 149 > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > | | "NI!" "Bring us a shrubbery" | | > | | Alabama Michael Warren "NI!" | | > | | Class of '93 mwarren@medsup.com | | > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 13:46:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26279; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:46:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10430; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:41:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10424; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:40:58 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22408; Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:40:58 -0700 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:33:26 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Michael S. Robinson" Subject: Re: memory fault in addresses In-Reply-To: <3lud6p$emh@netnews.upenn.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: This is actually a failure of the sendmail program that Pine calls, not Pine itself. A possible work-around is to set smtp-server in the Setup/Config screen... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 5 Apr 1995, Michael S. Robinson wrote: > Date: 5 Apr 1995 15:32:41 GMT > From: Michael S. Robinson > Subject: memory fault in addresses > > Using Pine 3.90, if I send a message (even a 1-liner) to a LIST with about > 100 names in it, Pine gives an error (18xxx) and "Memory Fault." Anyone > have this problem and know how to solve it? My current solution is to break > up the list into 2 parts of 50 names each. > > Mike > > -- > +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ > Mike Robinson : http://finance.wharton.upenn.edu/~mrobinsn : > The Wharton School :========:==================================== > 3620 Locust Walk Suite 2314 : mrobinsn@wharton.upenn.edu > Philadelphia, PA 19104 : > V://215.898.2761 F://215.898.6200 : - Write Me! > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 14:58:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03834; Wed, 19 Apr 95 14:58:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11998; Wed, 19 Apr 95 14:50:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11992; Wed, 19 Apr 95 14:50:40 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27051; Wed, 19 Apr 95 14:50:24 -0700 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:50:22 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Monee C. Kidd" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine error message In-Reply-To: <3mbkn2$hf6@wariat.wariat.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It is a problem with the sendmail program on your system, not with Pine itself. A possible work-around is to set the smtp-server variable in the Setup/Config screen... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 10 Apr 1995, Monee C. Kidd wrote: > Date: 10 Apr 1995 16:00:34 GMT > From: Monee C. Kidd > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Pine error message > > I've been trying to send a rather large file to a rather long distribution > list and I keep getting different sh ##### : Bus Errors. The number I've > gotten so far are 16000, 13434 and most recently 12760. I tried cutting my > distribution list down from 75 to 60, as someone suggested pine couldn't > handle that many addresses at once, but I just get different error numbers. > Can someone tell me what these numbers mean and how I might be able to fix > this problem? Thanks. > > -- > <(*)> | Vote YES on rec.food.chocolate! > "Life is like a box of chocolates... |The *new* sweetest newsgroup on the Net > You never know what you're gonna get" | > <(*)> | Monee C. Kidd, mkidd@wariat.org > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 15:10:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04322; Wed, 19 Apr 95 15:10:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13636; Wed, 19 Apr 95 15:06:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13630; Wed, 19 Apr 95 15:06:32 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00209; Wed, 19 Apr 95 15:05:07 -0700 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 15:05:06 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Someone Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pico In-Reply-To: <3mvi9k$clm@news.cloud9.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sure, just start pico with the "-z" option... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 18 Apr 1995, Someone wrote: > Date: 18 Apr 1995 05:21:56 GMT > From: Someone > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: pico > > Couldn't find anywhere for pico questions and this is the closest thing > so why not. I'm wondering if there is a is to suspend (aka ^Z) pico on > Unix. This seems a bit pointless yes, but I was curious if it's possible. > Anyone know? > Peter > -- > peterh@cloud9.net > http://www/cloud9.net/~peterh > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 15:10:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04335; Wed, 19 Apr 95 15:10:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13465; Wed, 19 Apr 95 15:00:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13459; Wed, 19 Apr 95 15:00:34 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29883; Wed, 19 Apr 95 14:58:10 -0700 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:58:09 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Chris Owen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Auto-bounce in Pine? In-Reply-To: <1995Apr14.152122.22179@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Not in Pine, but you can do it with a delivery filter like procmail, devliver, filter, or mailagent... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 14 Apr 1995, Chris Owen wrote: > Date: Fri, 14 Apr 95 15:21:21 BST > From: Chris Owen > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Auto-bounce in Pine? > > Using Pine, is there any way of auto-bouncing all messages from a > particular user back to them? > > > -- > | Chris Owen | Trinity College, Oxford | > |---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > | New Sinclair WWW pages: http://sable.ox.ac.uk/~tr95006/sincover.html | > | Howling in the wires - Canter & Siegel, criminal Armenians at law | > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 15:18:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04643; Wed, 19 Apr 95 15:18:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13692; Wed, 19 Apr 95 15:08:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13686; Wed, 19 Apr 95 15:08:46 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00332; Wed, 19 Apr 95 15:08:10 -0700 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 15:08:08 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Manfred Sever Cc: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu, mse@wolverine.utias.utoronto.ca Subject: Re: problems with solaris In-Reply-To: <199504181943.PAA21734@wolverine.utias.utoronto.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Add "-Dconst=" to the CFLAGS line in pine/makefile.sol |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 18 Apr 1995, Manfred Sever wrote: > Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 15:43:30 -0400 > From: Manfred Sever > To: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu > Cc: mse@wolverine.utias.utoronto.ca > Subject: problems with solaris > > > Hi, > > I hope that some of you can help me. I'm having trouble building > Pine for a Sun Sparc 20 running Solaris 2.4. > > I untar the tarfile, cd into pine3.91 and type: > ``build sol'' > > The programs: mtest, imapd and pico seem to get built OK, but > for pine I get: > > Making Pine. > rm -f os.h > ln -s osdep/os-sv4.h os.h > ./cmplhlp2.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.h > cc -DSV4 -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" -c addrbook.c > "/usr/include/stdlib.h", line 141: identifier redeclared: getopt > current : function(int, pointer to pointer to char, pointer to char) returning int > previous: function(int, pointer to const pointer to char, pointer to const char) returning int : "/usr/include/stdio.h", line 283 > "/usr/include/stdlib.h", line 142: identifier redeclared: getsubopt > current : function(pointer to pointer to char, pointer to pointer to char, pointer to pointer to char) returning int > previous: function(pointer to pointer to char, pointer to const pointer to char, pointer to pointer to char) returning int : "/usr/include/stdio.h", line 285 > "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 225: identifier redeclared: rename > current : function(pointer to char, pointer to char) returning int > previous: function(pointer to const char, pointer to const char) returning int : "/usr/include/stdio.h", line 148 > "addrbook.c", line 3954: cannot recover from previous errors > cc: acomp failed for addrbook.c > *** Error code 2 > make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `addrbook.o' > > Links to executables are in bin directory: > size: bin/pine: cannot open > bin/mtest: 516976 + 26120 + 1896 = 544992 > bin/imapd: 544896 + 28144 + 9076 = 582116 > bin/pico: 128456 + 24560 + 8140 = 161156 > Done > > > Can someone tell me what's wrong and how to fix it? > I've never build pine before. > > Manfred. > > =============================================================================== > Manfred D. M. Sever | > | > Space Robotics Group, | E-mail: mse@sdr.utias.utoronto.ca > University of Toronto | Tel.: (416) 667-7744 (Desk) > Institute for Aerospace Studies | (416) 667-7731 (Computer Room) > 4925 Dufferin Street | (416) 667-7722 (Lab) > Downsview, ON CANADA | Fax: (416) 667-7799 > M3H 5T6 | > =============================================================================== > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 16:31:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08475; Wed, 19 Apr 95 16:31:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15965; Wed, 19 Apr 95 16:24:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15959; Wed, 19 Apr 95 16:24:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1j60-00038MC; Wed, 19 Apr 95 16:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: laniege@eng.auburn.edu (Glenn E. Lanier) Subject: Modifying On $date, $LUSER.. Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 16:31:35 GMT Hi, I've played around (somewhat) with a copy of Pine.3.91. I want to be able to change the quote character (currently >) and the line (on day, user wrote:). I don't have the time to look through the files, and what I have changed and then recompiled hasn't changed the ouput. Any help is appreciated. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Glenn Lanier II Preferred: laniege@eng.auburn.edu | | 04 CS Graduation in: 49 Days - 70651 Minutes | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Why doesn't DOS ever say "EXCELLENT command or filename!" | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 16:49:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09094; Wed, 19 Apr 95 16:49:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15058; Wed, 19 Apr 95 16:44:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15052; Wed, 19 Apr 95 16:44:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1jLo-00038QC; Wed, 19 Apr 95 16:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: efb@slced1.nswses.navy.mil (Everett F Batey SysAdm) Subject: F.Bsd_2.0cdrom gcc260 and pine391 help Message-Id: <52162@suned1.Nswses.Navy.MIL> Date: 18 Apr 95 22:23:57 GMT Only two builds .. build bsi and build bsd .. come close to making pine on my crypt.less FreeBSD PC (bsi).. Missing libs are much worse with the bsd param to build .. many type defects .. too. Maybe someone out there can suggest a pine/makefile.xxx for 4.4/Fbsd2.0 and the osdep to join it that will work with out the US.crypt .. not ready to reinstall till I have mail and a network to get stuff with .. Thanks for any files or tips .. BW /ev/ -- + efb@suned1.nswses.Navy.MIL efb@gcpacix.uucp efb@gcpacix.cotdazr.org + + efb@nosc.mil WA6CRE Gold Coast Sun Users Vta-SB-SLO DECUS gnu + + Opinions, MINE, NOT Uncle Sam_s | b-news postmaster xntp dns WAFFLE + From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 18:35:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13123; Wed, 19 Apr 95 18:35:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18592; Wed, 19 Apr 95 18:30:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18584; Wed, 19 Apr 95 18:30:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1l1Z-00038QC; Wed, 19 Apr 95 18:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kstewart@sol.ashland.edu (Phrakr Trakr) Subject: .pinerc and reply address Date: 20 Apr 1995 00:33:28 GMT Message-Id: <3n4a4o$g59@pangea.ohionet.org> I was wondering if there is anyway of specifying the reply address in my .pinerc. OR is there even a way of doing this at all??? Thanx in advance for the replies! -- ~\\|//~ -(o o)- +------------------+-------oOOOo--(_)--oOOOo-------+---------------------+ | K. Scott Stewart | Email: stew@pobox.com | Ashland University | | aka. STEW | Finger: stew@pobox.com | AU Box #1622 | | aka. Netiquette | | Ashland, OH 44805 | +------------------+-------------------------------+---------------------+ \,`/ / | URL: http://www.ashland.edu/~kstewart | _).. `_ +-----------------------------------------------------+ ( __ -\ | I have fallen in love with PERL:I don't mean Minnie | '`. +-----------------------------------------------------+ ( \>_-_, _||_ ~-/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 20:01:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15357; Wed, 19 Apr 95 20:01:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18137; Wed, 19 Apr 95 19:58:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from warrane.connect.com.au by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18131; Wed, 19 Apr 95 19:58:06 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by warrane.connect.com.au with UUCP id MAA07366 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6); Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:57:52 +1000 Received: from testing.jhbs.com.au (testing.jhbs.com.au [128.102.0.2]) by ubik.jhbs.com.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA123598; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:48:06 +1000 Received: (from bens@localhost) by testing.jhbs.com.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA40275; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:48:06 +1000 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:48:06 +1000 (EET) From: Ben Seaman MIS To: Everett F Batey SysAdm Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: F.Bsd_2.0cdrom gcc260 and pine391 help In-Reply-To: <52162@suned1.Nswses.Navy.MIL> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I used "build neb". Seemed to work ok. regards, Ben ************************************************************************* * Ben Seaman bens@jhbs.com.au * * AIX/Network Systems Specialist * * Nettrack Pty Ltd * * * * 61-2-8588527 (work) James Hardie Building Services * * 61-2-4384385 (office) * ************************************************************************* On 18 Apr 1995, Everett F Batey SysAdm wrote: > Only two builds .. build bsi and build bsd .. come close to making pine on > my crypt.less FreeBSD PC (bsi).. Missing libs are much worse with the bsd > param to build .. many type defects .. too. > > Maybe someone out there can suggest a pine/makefile.xxx for 4.4/Fbsd2.0 > and the osdep to join it that will work with out the US.crypt .. not ready > to reinstall till I have mail and a network to get stuff with .. > > Thanks for any files or tips .. BW /ev/ > -- > + efb@suned1.nswses.Navy.MIL efb@gcpacix.uucp efb@gcpacix.cotdazr.org + > + efb@nosc.mil WA6CRE Gold Coast Sun Users Vta-SB-SLO DECUS gnu + > + Opinions, MINE, NOT Uncle Sam_s | b-news postmaster xntp dns WAFFLE + > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 20:38:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16057; Wed, 19 Apr 95 20:38:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18639; Wed, 19 Apr 95 20:35:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18633; Wed, 19 Apr 95 20:35:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1mxB-00038QC; Wed, 19 Apr 95 20:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barry@telerama.lm.com Subject: Followup to Newsgroup w/o Reading News Date: 19 Apr 1995 17:07:10 -0400 Message-Id: <3n3u1u$b4o@telerama.lm.com> I don't normally use pine to read news. A while ago, I received some email that was the result of a 'reply' action from a newsreader. I prepared a reply to the author of the email. When I tried to send it to the author, pine 3.91 asked me if I wanted to post a followup to the newsgroup. I replied 'yes', and my recollection is that the send failed because I hadn't specified a NNTP server. I discovered how to configure a NNTP server, restarted pine, and was able to send the message and post the follow up. I then noticed the starting pine was taking "forever". Since I had specified an NNTP server, pine was checking for new articles in all of my subscribed newsgroups. I commented out the specification of the NNTP serer. I checked the pine documentation, but didn't see anything that said "just check mail, ignore news". I'd like to start pine in this mode so I can leave the NNTP server configured in case I ever need to followup as in the situation described in the first paragraph. Thanks, Barry -- Barry Wolman Pittsburgh, PA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 20:38:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16072; Wed, 19 Apr 95 20:38:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20558; Wed, 19 Apr 95 20:35:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20552; Wed, 19 Apr 95 20:35:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1mz2-00038RC; Wed, 19 Apr 95 20:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Scion Subject: Pine 3.92? Date: 20 Apr 1995 02:23:56 GMT Message-Id: <3n4gjs$8mf@news.tamu.edu> Anybody know when 3.92 is coming out? I'm looking forward to the 'built in' pgp interface. -Scion From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 19 22:51:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19567; Wed, 19 Apr 95 22:51:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20220; Wed, 19 Apr 95 22:45:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20214; Wed, 19 Apr 95 22:45:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1ozh-00038QC; Wed, 19 Apr 95 22:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Anfuso Subject: IMAP problem with pc-pine Date: 19 Apr 1995 17:06:25 GMT Message-Id: <3n3fuh$6i1@nntp.interaccess.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My provider is completely ignorant of IMAP. I need to present them with ideas for debugging my problem. I can access my INBOX without any problem. I can't, however, access any of my remote mailboxes. I can't save to them or read mail in them. I get a pine message which repeats every 15 seconds. [Waited xx seconds for server rely. Still waiting...] After I break contact, I see that a *.lock file was created remotely. Where do I start? John. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 00:23:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21797; Thu, 20 Apr 95 00:23:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23744; Thu, 20 Apr 95 00:13:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23738; Thu, 20 Apr 95 00:12:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1qJw-00038RC; Thu, 20 Apr 95 00:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Finn Hybjerg Hansen Subject: Bug (ID Y777J): Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:47:31 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-1903590565-798272750=:15546" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-1903590565-798272750=:15546 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Hi Pine Developers & users I guess Pine first of all is a mail-program, so maybe you do not accept the following as a bug, but if Pine should be used as a news-tool, support for the correct news-headers should also be included. Our problem is that we want a 'Organization'-header in our news-postings with a default value (name of our University). Doing that also makes the 'Organization'-header occur in normal mails, where the header do not belong. I therefore suggest, that new versions of Pine will exclude headers in normal mails that do not belong there. If this is already possible, I have not been able to find out how, and I'm sorry to have bothered you. I would however like to know if possible how it is done, or if pine will support this in the future. Regards from Finn in Denmark ----------------------------------- --------------------------------------- Name : Finn Hybjerg Hansen | Aalborg University Email : fhh@kom.auc.dk | Institute of Electronic Systems Phone : +45 98 15 85 22 | Department of Communication Technology Direct: +45 98 15 42 11 - 4807 | Fredrik Bajers Vej 7A (Room A1-203) Fax : +45 98 15 67 40 | DK-9220 Aalborg O. ,,, WWW : http://www-i8.auc.dk/~fhh/ | DENMARK (o o) ----------------------------------- ------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo---- ---559023410-1903590565-798272750=:15546 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = fhh, full = Finn Hybjerg Hansen home = /home/fhh home_dir= /home/fhh hostname= skoda.kom.auc.dk localdom= kom.auc.dk userdom= kom.auc.dk maildom= kom.auc.dk cur_cntxt= *{news.iesd.auc.dk/nntp}[] cur_fldr= comp.mail.pine actual mbox= *{news.iesd.auc.dk/nntp}comp.mail.pine msgmap: tot=45, cur=1, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=OrderedSubj actual inbox= /var/mail/fhh inbox map: tot=19, cur=19, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=OrderedSubj term type=xterm, ttyname=/dev/pts/4, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Finn Hybjerg Hansen user-id : fhh user-domain : kom.auc.dk nntp-server : news.iesd.auc.dk inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : mail/[] news-collections : Subscribed-Groups *{news.iesd.auc.dk/nntp}[] default-fcc : sentmail.fhh postponed-folder : postpone.fhh mail-directory : mail signature-file : /home/fhh/myfiles/sign1 address-book : .addressbook feature-list : auto-open-next-unread : delete-skips-deleted : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expunge-without-confirm : include-text-in-reply : quit-without-confirm : save-will-quote-leading-froms : save-will-advance : show-selected-in-boldface : signature-at-bottom : user-lookup-even-if-domain-mismatch : auto-open-next-unread : delete-skips-deleted : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expunge-without-confirm : quit-without-confirm : save-will-quote-leading-froms : save-will-advance : show-selected-in-boldface : user-lookup-even-if-domain-mismatch : news-post-without-validation : use-current-dir : news-approximates-new-status : enable-alternate-editor-cmd initial-keystroke-li : i default-composer-hdr : Subject: : Cc: : To: customized-hdrs : Organization: Aalborg University IES/KOM : Followup-To: : Approved: saved-msg-name-rule : last-folder-used fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : OrderedSubj addrbook-sort-rule : nickname character-set : ISO-8859-1 editor : mkpgp use-only-domain-name : no printer : mp -F -l | lp -dlwa1 personal-print-comma : mp -F -l | lp -dlwa1 standard-printer : lp last-time-prune-ques : 95.4 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/home/fhh/.pinerc) ======= personal-name : Finn Hybjerg Hansen user-domain : kom.auc.dk nntp-server : news.iesd.auc.dk news-collections : Subscribed-Groups *{news.iesd.auc.dk/nntp}[] default-fcc : sentmail.fhh postponed-folder : postpone.fhh signature-file : ~/myfiles/sign1 feature-list : auto-open-next-unread : delete-skips-deleted : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expunge-without-confirm : quit-without-confirm : save-will-quote-leading-froms : save-will-advance : show-selected-in-boldface : user-lookup-even-if-domain-mismatch : news-post-without-validation : use-current-dir : news-approximates-new-status : enable-alternate-editor-cmd initial-keystroke-li : i default-composer-hdr : Subject: : Cc: : To: customized-hdrs : Organization: Aalborg University IES/KOM : Followup-To: : Approved: saved-msg-name-rule : last-folder-used fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : OrderedSubj addrbook-sort-rule : nickname character-set : ISO-8859-1 editor : mkpgp printer : mp -F -l | lp -d$LPDEST personal-print-comma : mp -F -l | lp -d$LPDEST last-time-prune-ques : 95.4 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/pack/pine-3.91/lib/pine.conf) ======= user-domain : kom.auc.dk nntp-server : news.iesd.auc.dk inbox-path : inbox news-collections : Subscribed-Groups *{news.iesd.auc.dk/nntp}[] default-fcc : mbox.out postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook feature-list : auto-open-next-unread : delete-skips-deleted : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expunge-without-confirm : include-text-in-reply : quit-without-confirm : save-will-quote-leading-froms : save-will-advance : show-selected-in-boldface : signature-at-bottom : user-lookup-even-if-domain-mismatch initial-keystroke-li : i saved-msg-name-rule : last-folder-used fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last character-set : ISO-8859-1 use-only-domain-name : no printer : mp -F -l | lp -d$LPDEST personal-print-comma : mp -F -l | lp -d$LPDEST standard-printer : lp bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd enable-aggregate-command-set enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly enable-bounce-cmd enable-flag-cmd enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue enable-suspend enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply include-text-in-reply news-approximates-new-status news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file quit-without-confirm save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom use-current-dir no-use-function-keys ---559023410-1903590565-798272750=:15546-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 02:41:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25366; Thu, 20 Apr 95 02:41:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22994; Thu, 20 Apr 95 02:31:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22988; Thu, 20 Apr 95 02:31:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1sZ0-00038RC; Thu, 20 Apr 95 02:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Carl Reimann Subject: key word association? Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 07:59:25 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I recently abandoned the Columbia Mail Manager in favor of Pine. I had originally made the opposite switch to get the benefits of MM's bulk searching and message manipulation features; however, Pine has surpassed MM in important respects. One MM feature I miss is the ability to set a keyword for a message which can then be used for instant searching and related manipulation. I gather there is no way Pine can associate a keyword with a message. Carl From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 02:56:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25703; Thu, 20 Apr 95 02:56:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23171; Thu, 20 Apr 95 02:46:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23165; Thu, 20 Apr 95 02:46:12 -0700 Received: from grus.cus.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.3] (ident = root) by bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.0 #30) id m0s1soJ-000BzzC; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:46 BST Received: by grus.cus.cam.ac.uk (Smail-3.1.29.0 #27) id m0s1soI-0007b0C; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:46 BST Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:46:05 +0100 (BST) From: Barry Landy Reply-To: bl10@cam.ac.uk To: Pine Info List Subject: Pine use of PC memory Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine does not make as much use of extended memory as it should. As a result there are cases when it runs out, such as when including a (relatively) large PC file; 100k is probably enough. This is not very good; what is worse is that in some cases the ^R command merely truncates the read, thus constructing a bad message. For 3.92, please improve the diagnostic; for some future improv ement please improve the memory handling. ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 04:14:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28538; Thu, 20 Apr 95 04:14:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27314; Thu, 20 Apr 95 04:05:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27306; Thu, 20 Apr 95 04:05:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1u2F-00038SC; Thu, 20 Apr 95 04:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wix@flowbee.interaccess.com (Wickes Furniture) Subject: Re: PICO composer Date: 19 Apr 1995 20:28:51 GMT Message-Id: <3n3rq3$72h@nntp.interaccess.com> References: <3mvu0c$qro@news.primenet.com> <3n1ajh$ckp@krypton.hpc.sdsmt.edu> ^Y and ^ V are only page up and page down. I'd like to know if there are keys for going directly to the top or bottom of a document, too... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 06:51:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02488; Thu, 20 Apr 95 06:51:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29200; Thu, 20 Apr 95 06:28:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from warrane.connect.com.au by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29194; Thu, 20 Apr 95 06:28:52 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by warrane.connect.com.au with UUCP id XAA20115 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6); Thu, 20 Apr 1995 23:28:45 +1000 Received: from testing.jhbs.com.au (testing.jhbs.com.au [128.102.0.2]) by ubik.jhbs.com.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA157533; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 23:25:13 +1000 Received: (from bens@localhost) by testing.jhbs.com.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA70715; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 23:25:13 +1000 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 23:25:13 +1000 (EET) From: Ben Seaman MIS To: John Anfuso Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP problem with pc-pine In-Reply-To: <3n3fuh$6i1@nntp.interaccess.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I am having a similar problem here myself. I actually traced this connection with some fairly terse IP trace tools and found that the PC does not try to authenticate under the IMAP protocol. I checked that the imap server was running on the host with the mtest program and it all worked fine. At the moment, I can't proceed until I find why PC Pine does not proceed after it receives the initial IMAP greeting message from the server. By copy to the pine guys: Can you give us some hints how we can debug this problem? regards, Ben ************************************************************************* * Ben Seaman bens@jhbs.com.au * * AIX/Network Systems Specialist * * Nettrack Pty Ltd * * * * 61-2-8588527 (work) James Hardie Building Services * * 61-2-4384385 (office) * ************************************************************************* On 19 Apr 1995, John Anfuso wrote: > My provider is completely ignorant of IMAP. I need to present > them with ideas for debugging my problem. > > I can access my INBOX without any problem. I can't, however, > access any of my remote mailboxes. I can't save to them or read > mail in them. I get a pine message which repeats every 15 seconds. > > [Waited xx seconds for server rely. Still waiting...] > > After I break contact, I see that a *.lock file was created remotely. > > Where do I start? > > John. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 07:48:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03735; Thu, 20 Apr 95 07:48:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29912; Thu, 20 Apr 95 07:14:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.bridgeway.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29906; Thu, 20 Apr 95 07:14:21 -0700 Received: by server.bridgeway.com id <207556>; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 07:16:25 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 07:16:18 -0700 From: Andrew Le To: Ben Seaman MIS Cc: John Anfuso , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP problem with pc-pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII TO whom it may concern, I just got the LISTSERV LIST, but dont know how to use it to subscribe to different forums.... most of the addresses listed are in uppercase, such as S-COMPUT@UGA, when I send mail there.. it gets bounced back... help can someone write me a little note on how to use this list? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 07:49:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03803; Thu, 20 Apr 95 07:49:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26859; Thu, 20 Apr 95 07:35:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26853; Thu, 20 Apr 95 07:35:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1xEn-00038QC; Thu, 20 Apr 95 07:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: How to get Receipt? Date: 19 Apr 95 13:33:07 GMT Message-Id: References: <199504080757.AAA00800@usr3.primenet.com> Mike Jelineo writes: >Hi All-- > I would like to know about having a Return Receipt Generated when the >person reads the message so that I will know if they had or not. >Sometimes I don't get replys from people for a really long time and I am >curious if there was a way to get a Return Receipt once someone reads the >message. It is really none of your business when and whether they read your messages. You only have the right (perhaps) to know that the package was successfully delivered. This demand, which is frequently made, is odious. >--Mike Jelineo >BTW - Please Send All Answers to My E-mail Address instead of Posting it > To comp.mail.pine. I like getting answers via Private e-mail....! I like posting things, but because I want you to be sure and get it, I am also mailing it. You are a demanding person, aren't you? >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Mike Jelineo >mjelineo@pacifier.com Vancouver, WA USA >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ^^^^^^^^ Aah! that explains a lot! -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 07:57:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04041; Thu, 20 Apr 95 07:57:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00472; Thu, 20 Apr 95 07:41:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00466; Thu, 20 Apr 95 07:41:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1xPM-00038QC; Thu, 20 Apr 95 07:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: How to get Receipt? Date: 19 Apr 95 13:37:22 GMT Message-Id: References: Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM writes: >On Mon, 17 Apr 1995, Mike Jelineo wrote: [...] >If you are not getting replies from people for a long time, this could be >for a couple of reasons. >1) The peole who you are sending email to, get so much email that it >takes them a long time to answer (or they have other priorities, which >means that they do not read email that often :-) >2) The return (or sending) path of the emai means that the email itself >is taking a long time to get to your recipients. If your email has to go >through 3 gateways and each takes 1/2 day to deal with it (extreme I >agree), it would take 1 1/2 days for your email to get there ! You left out an important 3rd possibility: Maybe they just don't like him. >Another thing to think about is that some people will not thank you for >asking for delivery notification/return-receipt as there are still people >who have to pay for email traffic >Stuart >CC'd to the pine mailing list for others to read >> Hi All-- >> I would like to know about having a Return Receipt Generated when the >> person reads the message so that I will know if they had or not. >> Sometimes I don't get replys from people for a really long time and I am >> curious if there was a way to get a Return Receipt once someone reads the >> message. This is jerky. >> >> --Mike Jelineo >> >> BTW - Please Send All Answers to My E-mail Address instead of Posting it >> To comp.mail.pine. I like getting answers via Private e-mail....! So is this. >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Mike Jelineo >> mjelineo@pacifier.com Vancouver, WA USA >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >---- >Stuart Tares Email : Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM >Senior Network Analyst Voice : +44 181 742 4060 >DHL Systems Ltd, CSG Europe & Africa Region -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 08:01:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04223; Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:01:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27129; Thu, 20 Apr 95 07:51:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27114; Thu, 20 Apr 95 07:51:41 -0700 Received: from linda.teleport.com (bsherman@linda.teleport.com [192.108.254.12]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA26370 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 07:51:40 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 07:51:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian E. Sherman" To: Pine Info List Subject: Suggestion for 3.9x Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I have been using Pine for while now and I just wanted to say that I find it to be a great, well written program for users. The Pine development team has made a wonderful product. I get a lot e-mail using the attachment feature of Pine3.91 and I have noticed that the Attachment Index Screen doesn't use the same logic as the Folder Index Screen when it comes to using the "jump" command. I have the "enable-jump-shortcut" option set in Setup Configuration so that I can select which message to "jump" to. I use this feature when I get a lot of e-mail (sometimes 30-40 email's per day), sometimes with two or three attachments and I don't always have time to read everything right away. So I tend to jump around and read things out of order. The Attachment Index screen doesn't allow the input of numbers to allow jumping the same way the Folder Index screen does. This would be a nice enhancement/fix in a future release (3.92?) so that the interface is consistant for the user. Keep Up The Great Work! Thanks -- "It would be quite possible to control a distant computer by means of a telephone line." - Alan Turing, 1947 "Who the hell is General Failure, and why is he reading my disk?" Actual comment overheard from one of my users! []=====================================================================[] [] Newport/Layton Home Fashions,Inc. - MIS/EDI Manager [] [] E-Mail: Brian E. Sherman bsherman@teleport.com [] [] snailMail: 1420 NW Lovejoy St. Portland, Oregon USA 97209 [] [] Voice: 503-222-3847 Ext. 234 Fax: 503-222-7465 [] []=====================================================================[] Opinions Expressed Here Are All Mine. No-One Else Will Claim Them. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 08:23:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05109; Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:23:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27706; Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:18:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27696; Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:18:37 -0700 Received: from trex (trex.kwantlen.bc.ca) by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA09038; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:18:11 -0700 Received: by trex (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA16380; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:18:10 +0800 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:18:09 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dumaresq X-Sender: david@trex To: "R. Stewart Ellis" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to get Receipt? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1298 On 19 Apr 1995, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > Mike Jelineo writes: > > >Hi All-- > > I would like to know about having a Return Receipt Generated when the > > This demand, which is frequently made, is odious. > -I would like ... is *not* a demand, and it may be onerous to code but odious sounds like a fighting word. > also mailing it. You are a demanding person, aren't you? > > >mjelineo@pacifier.com Vancouver, WA USA > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ^^^^^^^^ > Aah! that explains a lot! > -- > R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ > Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ His sig. explains about as much as yours does, or mine below for that matter. Give the guy a break. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 08:23:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05176; Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:23:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01166; Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:16:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha.loyno.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01159; Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:16:21 -0700 Received: by alpha.loyno.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/22Jul94-0234PM) id AA19251; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:17:42 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:17:41 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mary Aplin To: pine Subject: Keyboard Lock feature Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello Pine-ers! I posted this message a couple of weeks ago, but didn't get any response;I'll try again: Is there a way to disable the KBlock feature of pine (available at the main menu.) Also, does anyone know of a way to direct the unix print command to print to a local printer, similar to the way pine can print to "attached-to-ansi"? Thanks Mary Aplin Loyola University, New Orleans From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 08:27:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05382; Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:27:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27795; Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:21:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27789; Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:21:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1y1M-00038QC; Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access5.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Mailbox format for /usr/spool/mail/???????? Date: 19 Apr 1995 13:39:22 GMT Message-Id: <3n33qa$jf0@news3.digex.net> On a unix system, I believe the standard mailbox name for each user is as specified above, with ? replaced by the user's login name. I'd like to know if there is a standard document describing how those mailbox files are defined so I can read Unix mailboxes on a PC. I like the Pine mailer but I must use something akin to UUCP in order to be able to read and reply to mail off-line. All of the mailers I've found either want to run under windows, will not simply exit to a batch file or issue a subtask call to a mail transporter program properly, or will not operate without a network connection. I would probably use PC-Pine if I could get it to work under this scheme. This is what I want to run, so any suggestions on changing what I want to do will be respected, but cheerfully ignored unless they cost nothing and are an order of magnitude easier than what I want to do. -- Ask me about Listmgr - the first PC-Based mailing list manager for E-Mail. Reports on Security Problems: To Subscribe write PROBLEMS-REQUEST@TDR.COM Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net Voted "Largest Polluter of the (IETF) list" by Randy Bush From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 09:20:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10119; Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:20:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02773; Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:11:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02767; Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:11:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1yhZ-00038RC; Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bhassler@erinet.com (Barry D) Subject: imap without username/password Date: 20 Apr 1995 11:26:38 -0400 Message-Id: <3n5ufe$84@eri.erinet.com> I'm trying to install pine on a network of sun machines, and want to use our server machine for imap (currently we NFS mount the mail spool directories). However, I don't want our users to have to enter their username and password when they start pine. Reading the Pine Technical Notes (under installing imapd), it looks like I should be able to do this using the standard rsh mechanism. Doesn't appear to work however, since I'm always prompted for username and password. Although the documentation only mentions creating a link to rimapd, I have also changed the inetd.conf file. In all honesty, I haven't dug through the code to figure this out - kinda hoping someone can save me that trouble. Any suggestions? ----- Barry D. Hassler barry.hassler@hcst.com Executive Vice President, Principle Communications Consultant Hassler Communication Systems Technology, Inc OFFICE: +1 513-390-7486 5329 Ridgewood Road West (VOICE AND FAX) Springfield, Ohio 45503-5631 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 09:41:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13542; Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:41:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08199; Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:25:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tucana.dur.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08193; Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:25:31 -0700 Received: from venus.dur.ac.uk by tucana.dur.ac.uk id (8.6.10/ for dur.ac.uk) with SMTP; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:24:46 +0100 Received: from hercules (hercules.dur.ac.uk) by venus.dur.ac.uk; Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:24:44 BST Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:24:37 +0100 (BST) From: Barry Cornelius To: Barry D Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: imap without username/password In-Reply-To: <3n5ufe$84@eri.erinet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 20 Apr 1995, Barry D wrote: > I'm trying to install pine on a network of sun machines, and want to use > our server machine for imap (currently we NFS mount the mail spool > directories). However, I don't want our users to have to enter their > username and password when they start pine. Reading the Pine Technical > Notes (under installing imapd), it looks like I should be able to do this > using the standard rsh mechanism. > Doesn't appear to work however, since I'm always prompted for username > and password. Although the documentation only mentions creating a link to > rimapd, I have also changed the inetd.conf file. We use the mechanism that you describe, and no-one has to quote their password. There are a number of reasons why it might be happening each time that you use Pine. It may because of one or more of the following: (1) Your .cshrc file does output to the screen, e.g., it uses the echo command. You will need to remove the appropriate command(s) from the .cshrc file. (2) Your .cshrc file contains one or more of the Unix commands biff, mesg, stty. Probably the command can be moved to your .login file. (3) None of the above, in which case over to someone else. -- Barry Cornelius Telephone: (0191 or +44 191) 374 4717 Academic Support Group, IT Service, IT Service Office: 374 2892 Science Site, University of Durham, Fax: 374 3741 Durham, DH1 3LE, UK E-mail: Barry.Cornelius@durham.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 09:42:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13591; Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:42:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29782; Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:31:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29776; Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:31:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1z7h-00038QC; Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barry@telerama.lm.com Subject: New Mail Check from Remote Pine Date: 19 Apr 1995 16:51:44 -0400 Message-Id: <3n3t50$avu@telerama.lm.com> I use pine in a window on a workstation at work to monitor personal email received at a local ISP. I connect to the remote IMAP server when I start pine in the morning. Periodically, pine tells me there is new mail. There doesn't appear to be a way to force pine (other than by existing and restarting) to do a new mail check. It sometimes appears that there is new mail available, but pine takes its time about telling me that the new mail is available. For example, I usually read news on the ISP because they support a threaded newsreader and Transarc (where I work) doesn't. tin on the ISP will tell me there is new mail, but it may take 10s of minutes before I receive a new mail notification from pine on my local window. Is there a way to force a check? I couldn't find anything under other commands. Can the check interval be configured? Thanks, Barry -- Barry Wolman Pittsburgh, PA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 09:58:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14445; Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:58:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08993; Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:52:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from netcom16.netcom.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08987; Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:52:46 -0700 Received: by netcom16.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id JAA05128; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:25:23 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:25:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Juanita Fischer X-Sender: juanfisc@netcom16 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help with mail filtering Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've got procmail filtering my incoming mail and that part is working just fine. The problem is that I've got my incoming folders and save folders in the same directory, and pine doesn't seem to know the diference. When I try to "go" to a folder, it thinks I want an incoming folder and won't find the folder because it's not defined as incoming. I have to actually cursor in the list to the folder I want for it to open it? Does PIne behave differently if I put my incoming and save folders in different directories? This is very inconvenient and if I can't solve it, I'm going back to having everything in one folder collection. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 10:22:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15712; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:22:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09621; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:13:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09615; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:13:39 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id NAA24182; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:13:33 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id NAA06864; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:13:32 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA03411; Thu, 20 Apr 95 13:12:03 EDT Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:12:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Mary Aplin Cc: pine Subject: Re: Keyboard Lock feature In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 20 Apr 1995, Mary Aplin wrote: > Hello Pine-ers! > > > Also, does anyone know of a way to direct the unix print command to print > to a local printer, similar to the way pine can print to "attached-to-ansi"? > We created a printer called printerm with an interface file called termpr that activates the print-thru (echo \033[5i) cats the file then closes the print-thru ( echo \033[4i). Interface file is appended, for reference. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com # File /usr/spool/lp/model/termpr #ident "@(#)/usr/spool/lp/model/dumb.sl 1.3 3.2 09/29/87 29351 AT&T-SF" # lp interface for dumb line printer # echo "\033[5i" sleep 2 x="XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX" echo "\014\c" banner "$2" echo "\n" user=`grep "^$2:" /etc/passwd | line | cut -d: -f5` if [ -n "$user" ] then echo "User: $user\n" else echo "\n" fi echo "Request id: $1 Printer: `basename $0`\n" date echo "\n" if [ -n "$3" ] then banner $3 fi copies=$4 echo "\014\c" shift; shift; shift; shift; shift files="$*" i=1 while [ $i -le $copies ] do for file in $files do cat "$file" 2>&1 echo "\014\c" done i=`expr $i + 1` done echo "\033[4i" exit 0 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 10:28:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15911; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:28:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01119; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:16:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01113; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:16:17 -0700 Received: by ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-940815-1) id AA15600; Thu, 20 Apr 95 13:15:45 EDT Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:15:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Schlitt To: Barry Cornelius Cc: Barry D , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: imap without username/password In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Whether or not it solves this specific problem, it is a good idea to have something like # skip remaining setup if not an interactive shell if ($?USER == 0 || $?prompt == 0) exit # settings for interactive shells in the .cshrc file toseparatethose things that you always want from those things that you only want for an interactive shell. /dan -- Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 10:59:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17544; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:59:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10661; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:51:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10655; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:51:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s20Li-00038QC; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: millsbn@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca (Bruce Mills) Subject: Re: distribution list setup hell Date: 20 Apr 1995 10:07:08 -0400 Message-Id: <3n5pqc$l48@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA> References: Ok, here's my stoopid question for today, which I am sure is in the FAQ, which is where I would look if I knew where it was (hint, hint)..... Can you set up a file with a list of addresses and then use the filename as input for To:, CC: or BCC:? I have a humungous distribution list that has my .addressbook swollen like, well, you don't want to know. Any help would be appreciated. Bruce From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 12:32:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22534; Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:32:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04726; Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:28:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04720; Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:28:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s21nZ-00038QC; Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bob@meeker.csuohio.edu (Robert M. Martel) Subject: Re: Pine use of PC memory Message-Id: <1995Apr20.125547.24610@news.csuohio.edu> References: Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:55:47 GMT Barry Landy (bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk) wrote: : Pine does not make as much use of extended memory as it should. As a : result there are cases when it runs out, such as when including a : (relatively) large PC file; 100k is probably enough. This is not very : good; what is worse is that in some cases the ^R command merely truncates : the read, thus constructing a bad message. Is this why I keep getting "out of memory" and "bug detected" errors while testing the PC-NFS version of 3.91? I don't see this problem with the winsock version but I'd rather use the PC-NFS version. Anyone know of a fix/work-a-round? Thanks! Bob Martel - Pine newbie -- ****************************************************************************** Bob Martel - System Administrator | I met someone who looks a lot like you Levin College of Urban Affairs | She does the things you do Cleveland State University | But she is an IBM (216) 687-2214 | bob@meeker.csuohio.edu | -Jeff Lynne ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 13:52:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27262; Thu, 20 Apr 95 13:52:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15501; Thu, 20 Apr 95 13:43:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15495; Thu, 20 Apr 95 13:43:57 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12237; Thu, 20 Apr 95 13:43:52 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:43:51 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Juanita Fischer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help with mail filtering In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Juanita, The problem is that with multiple collections, Pine has to pick one as a default, which is apparently not correct in your case. You can change between collections with ^N and ^P at the Goto prompt. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 20 Apr 1995, Juanita Fischer wrote: > Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:25:20 -0700 (PDT) > From: Juanita Fischer > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Help with mail filtering > > I've got procmail filtering my incoming mail and that part is working > just fine. The problem is that I've got my incoming folders and save > folders in the same directory, and pine doesn't seem to know the > diference. When I try to "go" to a folder, it thinks I want an incoming > folder and won't find the folder because it's not defined as incoming. I > have to actually cursor in the list to the folder I want for it to open > it? Does PIne behave differently if I put my incoming and save folders > in different directories? This is very inconvenient and if I can't solve > it, I'm going back to having everything in one folder collection. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 13:56:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27407; Thu, 20 Apr 95 13:56:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15592; Thu, 20 Apr 95 13:47:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15586; Thu, 20 Apr 95 13:47:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s235u-00038QC; Thu, 20 Apr 95 13:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lwinlaw@cyberstore.ca Subject: Mailing list software Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:19:39 +1000 Message-Id: Loooking for software or info. that would allow me to send a large number of newsletters each month individually and almost automatically. Someone suggested Majordomo, but my server does not support it. I am using Eudora, however in spite of directions on how I might use it to mail to individual names, I didn't have any success. Any input would be appreciated> I am not very computer literate. Thanks lwinlaw@cyberstore.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 14:03:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27639; Thu, 20 Apr 95 14:03:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15882; Thu, 20 Apr 95 13:56:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15876; Thu, 20 Apr 95 13:56:19 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12608; Thu, 20 Apr 95 13:56:14 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:56:12 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Wickes Furniture Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PICO composer In-Reply-To: <3n3rq3$72h@nntp.interaccess.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ^W^Y and ^W^V are Top and Bottom, respectively. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 19 Apr 1995, Wickes Furniture wrote: > Date: 19 Apr 1995 20:28:51 GMT > From: Wickes Furniture > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: PICO composer > > ^Y and ^ V are only page up and page down. I'd like to know if there are > keys for going directly to the top or bottom of a document, too... > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 14:08:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27962; Thu, 20 Apr 95 14:08:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16053; Thu, 20 Apr 95 14:02:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16047; Thu, 20 Apr 95 14:02:21 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12796; Thu, 20 Apr 95 14:02:14 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 14:02:12 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Scion Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.92? In-Reply-To: <3n4gjs$8mf@news.tamu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Nope, we don't know when Pine 3.92 is coming out... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 20 Apr 1995, Scion wrote: > Date: 20 Apr 1995 02:23:56 GMT > From: Scion > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Pine 3.92? > > Anybody know when 3.92 is coming out? I'm looking forward to the > 'built in' pgp interface. > > -Scion > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 14:12:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28238; Thu, 20 Apr 95 14:12:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07138; Thu, 20 Apr 95 14:01:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07132; Thu, 20 Apr 95 14:01:01 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12687; Thu, 20 Apr 95 13:59:41 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:59:40 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: barry@telerama.lm.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: New Mail Check from Remote Pine In-Reply-To: <3n3t50$avu@telerama.lm.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The mail check interval for Pine is 2.5 minutes. To force an early check, press ^L. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 19 Apr 1995 barry@telerama.lm.com wrote: > Date: 19 Apr 1995 16:51:44 -0400 > From: barry@telerama.lm.com > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: New Mail Check from Remote Pine > > I use pine in a window on a workstation at work to monitor personal > email received at a local ISP. I connect to the remote IMAP server > when I start pine in the morning. Periodically, pine tells me there > is new mail. There doesn't appear to be a way to force pine (other > than by existing and restarting) to do a new mail check. It sometimes > appears that there is new mail available, but pine takes its time > about telling me that the new mail is available. For example, I > usually read news on the ISP because they support a threaded > newsreader and Transarc (where I work) doesn't. tin on the ISP will > tell me there is new mail, but it may take 10s of minutes before I > receive a new mail notification from pine on my local window. > > Is there a way to force a check? I couldn't find anything under other > commands. Can the check interval be configured? > > Thanks, > Barry > > -- > Barry Wolman > Pittsburgh, PA > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 14:14:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28389; Thu, 20 Apr 95 14:14:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16113; Thu, 20 Apr 95 14:04:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16106; Thu, 20 Apr 95 14:04:09 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12827; Thu, 20 Apr 95 14:03:58 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 14:03:57 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Bruce Mills Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: distribution list setup hell In-Reply-To: <3n5pqc$l48@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII About the only thing you can do now is split your addressbook into a couple different addressbooks and specify the filenames in the Setup/Config screen... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 20 Apr 1995, Bruce Mills wrote: > Date: 20 Apr 1995 10:07:08 -0400 > From: Bruce Mills > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: distribution list setup hell > > Ok, here's my stoopid question for today, which I am sure is in the FAQ, > which is where I would look if I knew where it was (hint, hint)..... > > Can you set up a file with a list of addresses and then use the filename > as input for To:, CC: or BCC:? I have a humungous distribution list that > has my .addressbook swollen like, well, you don't want to know. > > Any help would be appreciated. > Bruce > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 15:29:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01439; Thu, 20 Apr 95 15:29:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08484; Thu, 20 Apr 95 15:03:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08474; Thu, 20 Apr 95 15:03:21 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA29052; Fri, 21 Apr 95 00:01:17 +0200 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 00:01:17 +0200 (METDST) From: Vladimir Solnicky To: The Pine Discussion List Subject: Re: Mailbox format for /usr/spool/mail/???????? In-Reply-To: <3n33qa$jf0@news3.digex.net> Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On 19 Apr 1995, Paul Robinson wrote: > I like the Pine mailer but I must use something akin to UUCP in order to= =20 > be able to read and reply to mail off-line. All of the mailers I've=20 > found either want to run under windows, will not simply exit to a batch= =20 > file or issue a subtask call to a mail transporter program properly, or= =20 > will not operate without a network connection. I would probably use=20 > PC-Pine if I could get it to work under this scheme. I think Pegasus mail can do what you want (if you realy want to read mail off-line using uucp---on my friend's company use this combination). If you only want to use PC and have a direct connection to the Internet, IMAP and some version of PC-PINE would be probably much better.=20 V. S. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz Europe WWW (will be) at http://www.utia.cas.cz/home/WWW/data/user_data/vs/vs-home.= http From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 15:34:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01540; Thu, 20 Apr 95 15:34:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08654; Thu, 20 Apr 95 15:10:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08648; Thu, 20 Apr 95 15:10:02 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA29065; Fri, 21 Apr 95 00:08:16 +0200 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 00:08:16 +0200 (METDST) From: Vladimir Solnicky To: The Pine Discussion List Subject: Re: Help with mail filtering In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Thu, 20 Apr 1995, Juanita Fischer wrote: > just fine. The problem is that I've got my incoming folders and save=20 > folders in the same directory, and pine doesn't seem to know the=20 > diference. When I try to "go" to a folder, it thinks I want an incoming= =20 > folder and won't find the folder because it's not defined as incoming. I= =20 > have to actually cursor in the list to the folder I want for it to open= =20 > it? Does PIne behave differently if I put my incoming and save folders= =20 > in different directories? This is very inconvenient and if I can't solve= =20 > it, I'm going back to having everything in one folder collection. =20 I think that if you set the option allowing multiple incomon folders (I=20 do not remember the name), you will be able to add all the other incoming= =20 folders in your configuration screen. This should help (if I understood=20 you well). | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz Europe WWW (will be) at http://www.utia.cas.cz/home/WWW/data/user_data/vs/vs-home.= http From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 15:42:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01947; Thu, 20 Apr 95 15:42:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18095; Thu, 20 Apr 95 15:25:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18081; Thu, 20 Apr 95 15:25:23 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA29127; Fri, 21 Apr 95 00:22:00 +0200 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 00:22:00 +0200 (METDST) From: Vladimir Solnicky To: The Pine Discussion List Subject: Printing using a Unix command Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Is it a way to configure pine so that I could edit the printing command=20 after pressing Y (i. e. not to have only the possibility to say yes, no=20 or cancel)? Thanks for answers. V. S. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz Europe WWW (will be) at http://www.utia.cas.cz/home/WWW/data/user_data/vs/vs-home.= http From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 15:48:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02312; Thu, 20 Apr 95 15:48:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09056; Thu, 20 Apr 95 15:28:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09050; Thu, 20 Apr 95 15:28:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s24fs-00038RC; Thu, 20 Apr 95 15:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chriss@geo.ruhr.de (Lars Diel) Subject: News from spooldir Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:50:27 GMT Hi! Is there a chance to read news with Pine 3.91 from a local spool directory? What file must I modify and how? Thanks for help. -- -- CU Lars From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 16:36:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04013; Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:36:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19351; Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:18:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19345; Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:18:07 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17782; Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:18:02 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:18:00 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Lars Diel Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: News from spooldir In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Set news-collections=*[] in the Setup/Config screen. That should work for the most common locations of the News spool directory and active file... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 20 Apr 1995, Lars Diel wrote: > Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:50:27 GMT > From: Lars Diel > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: News from spooldir > > Hi! > > Is there a chance to read news with Pine 3.91 from a local spool > directory? What file must I modify and how? > Thanks for help. > -- > -- > CU > Lars > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 16:36:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04036; Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:36:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19078; Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:05:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from msphub.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19072; Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:05:57 -0700 Received: from NetWare MHS (SMF70) by cbsmsp.msphub.com via C2SMTP 3.19.b11C MHS to SMTP Gateway; Thu, 20 Apr 95 18:08:52 -0600 Message-Id: <28C6962F01570200@cbsmsp.msphub.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 18:08:48 -0400 From: Jon Johnston Organization: Creative Business Solutions To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How old is 3.89? X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 3.19.b11C MHS to SMTP Gateway I'm working with a client who's using Unix PINE. They know little or nothing about PINE. How old is 3.89 and should I upgrade them? Jon Johnston Creative Business Solutions 10560 Wayzata Blvd Minnetonka, MN 55305 612-544-1108 Internet: JON@CBSMSP.MSPHUB.COM Nebraska ---- 1994 NCAA National Champions ---- 13-0 Congrats UCLA - 1994/95 NCAA Basketball Champions - 31-2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 17:06:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05910; Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:06:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20332; Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:01:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20326; Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:01:55 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19161; Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:01:51 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:01:49 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jon Johnston Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How old is 3.89? In-Reply-To: <28C6962F01570200@cbsmsp.msphub.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine 3.89 is about 1.5 years old. You should upgrade them to the current Pine 3.91 release... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 20 Apr 1995, Jon Johnston wrote: > Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 18:08:48 -0400 > From: Jon Johnston > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: How old is 3.89? > > I'm working with a client who's using Unix PINE. They know little or > nothing about PINE. > > How old is 3.89 and should I upgrade them? > > Jon Johnston Creative Business Solutions > 10560 Wayzata Blvd Minnetonka, MN 55305 > 612-544-1108 > Internet: JON@CBSMSP.MSPHUB.COM > Nebraska ---- 1994 NCAA National Champions ---- 13-0 > Congrats UCLA - 1994/95 NCAA Basketball Champions - 31-2 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 17:54:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07315; Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:54:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21246; Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:38:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21240; Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:38:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s26g2-00038SC; Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Uwe Richter Subject: Accessing new mail from MH folders? Date: 10 Apr 1995 22:23:07 GMT Message-Id: <3mcb4b$np0@fsuj01.rz.uni-jena.de> Hello, does anybody know how I can access new mails from the mail spool directory via the "#mh" switch as a remote MH folder. If I try "{imap-server}#mh/INBOX" only the existing mails (that were read previously) are seen, but no new mails. On the other side, if I set the incoming-folder to "{imap-server}INBOX" new mails are seen but an error is returned while saving read mails into a remote MH folder. A directory is created, but no mail file can be written. ---------------debugging-------------- .. ---- QUIT SCREEN ---- expunge and close mail stream "{paxp02.mipool.uni-jena.de}INBOX" q_status_message, Count 1, "Closing "INBOX"..." output_message(Closing "INBOX"...) STATUS cmd:120, disp:1, length:0, max:1, min0IMAP DEBUG: A00009 SEARCH SEEN UNDELETED IMAP DEBUG: * SEARCH 1 IMAP DEBUG: A00009 OK SEARCH completed IMAP DEBUG: A00010 COPY 1 #mh/read-messages IMAP DEBUG: * OK [TRYCREATE] Must create mailbox before copy IMAP mm_notify NIL : {paxp02.mipool.uni-jena.de}INBOX : [TRYCREATE] Must create mailbox before copy IMAP DEBUG: A00010 NO COPY failed: No such destination mailbox IMAP 0:19 4/11 mm_log ERROR: COPY failed: No such destination mailbox prev_col: 0, prev_end:3, top_column:24 spacing:22 0 (null) (null) 0 1 ^C Cancel 0 2 Y [Yes] 23 3 N No 23 4 (null) (null) 46 5 (null) (null) 46 6 (null) (null) 68 7 (null) (null) 68 8 (null) (null) 90 9 (null) (null) 90 11 (null) (null) 112 row: -2, real_row: 22, column: 0 Select readfds:1 timeval:0,0 Select on tty returned 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 121 y Want_to read: y (121) IMAP DEBUG: A00011 Create #mh/read-messages IMAP DEBUG: A00011 OK CREATE completed IMAP 0:19 4/11 mm_log babble: CREATE completed IMAP DEBUG: A00012 COPY 1 #mh/read-messages IMAP DEBUG: * OK [TRYCREATE] Must create mailbox before copy IMAP mm_notify NIL : {paxp02.mipool.uni-jena.de}INBOX : [TRYCREATE] Must create mailbox before copy IMAP DEBUG: A00012 NO COPY failed: No such destination mailbox IMAP 0:19 4/11 mm_log ERROR: COPY failed: No such destination mailbox q_status_message, Count 1, "Unable to save 1 read messages to read-messages" ---------------debugging-------------- Many thanks in advance. Uwe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 19:17:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09413; Thu, 20 Apr 95 19:17:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12818; Thu, 20 Apr 95 19:05:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12812; Thu, 20 Apr 95 19:05:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s27z8-00038QC; Thu, 20 Apr 95 18:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: morrowd@candu.aecl.ca (Dave Morrow) Subject: Pine 3.91 on Apollo DOMAIN/OS Date: 19 Apr 1995 22:28:01 GMT Message-Id: <3n42ph$h4a@shpk1.candu.aecl.ca> My distribution copy of pine 3.91 (obtained from ftp.cac.washington.edu) does not include a key file that is often referenced when reading the docs on how to build pine. The file is doc/pine-ports Could someone please email me a copy of this file, or better yet, if anyone out there has successfully compiled and run pine 3.91 on an Apollo Domain/OS 10.4 system, I'd like to speak to you. Regards, -- ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// // David A. Morrow // // Network Administration, AECL Candu // // Tel: (905) 823-9060 x4587 Fax: (905)823-2302 // // Email: morrowd@candu.aecl.ca // ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 20:07:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10949; Thu, 20 Apr 95 20:07:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23343; Thu, 20 Apr 95 19:52:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23337; Thu, 20 Apr 95 19:52:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s28nk-00038QC; Thu, 20 Apr 95 19:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: saiff@eden.rutgers.edu (Josh Saiff) Subject: cmsg cancel <3n39rf$pbo@er5.rutgers.edu> Control: cancel <3n39rf$pbo@er5.rutgers.edu> Date: 19 Apr 1995 19:05:49 -0400 Message-Id: <3n450d$fhi@er6.rutgers.edu> cancel <3n39rf$pbo@er5.rutgers.edu> in newsgroup comp.mail.pine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 22:06:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13955; Thu, 20 Apr 95 22:06:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14953; Thu, 20 Apr 95 21:50:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14947; Thu, 20 Apr 95 21:50:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2Aas-00038SC; Thu, 20 Apr 95 21:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tel-dist@india.bgsu.edu (Telugu Network) Subject: Bug (ID TE9E7): Not a bug: Lack of feature... Date: 20 Apr 1995 21:57:42 -0500 Message-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1442843031-288104241-798432999=:3137 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi ! For once, I hope one of your "bug-report" emails is not yetunnadder bug ;-) How to "automate" pine? I would like pine to run everyday in the morning @ 5:00 to do some "saving work" (save the articles from a newsgroup into a file using ;AAS and a filename ? pine < file is not legal ;-) Sorry I had to send a "bug-report". Couldn't locate an email address easily. Seetamraju P.S : Wow! What a comprehensive software?!! --1442843031-288104241-798432999=:3137 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; name="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = tel-dist, full = Telugu Network home = /home/tel-dist home_dir= /home/tel-dist hostname= india.bgsu.edu localdom= bgsu.edu userdom= NULL maildom= india.bgsu.edu cur_cntxt= Mail/[] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= /usr/spool/mail/tel-dist msgmap: tot=34, cur=2, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival inbox is mail_stream term type=vt100, ttyname=/dev/ttyp0, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Telugu Network user-id : tel-dist nntp-server : news.bgsu.edu inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : Mail/[] news-collections : misc.news.southasia *{news.bgsu.edu/nntp}[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook feature-list : compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm : delete-skips-deleted : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-flag-cmd : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-suspend : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : enable-tab-completion : expunge-without-confirm : include-attachments-in-reply : include-text-in-reply : news-post-without-validation : news-read-in-newsrc-order : news-approximates-new-status : preserve-start-stop-characters : quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file : save-will-quote-leading-froms : save-will-advance : select-without-confirm : use-current-dir saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 95.4 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/home/tel-dist/.pinerc) ======= nntp-server : news.bgsu.edu folder-collections : Mail/[] news-collections : misc.news.southasia *{news.bgsu.edu/nntp}[] feature-list : compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm : delete-skips-deleted : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-flag-cmd : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-suspend : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : enable-tab-completion : expunge-without-confirm : include-attachments-in-reply : include-text-in-reply : news-post-without-validation : news-read-in-newsrc-order : news-approximates-new-status : preserve-start-stop-characters : quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file : save-will-quote-leading-froms : save-will-advance : select-without-confirm : use-current-dir last-time-prune-ques : 95.4 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-bounce-cmd enable-flag-cmd no-enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue enable-suspend enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders expunge-without-confirm include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply include-text-in-reply news-approximates-new-status news-post-without-validation news-read-in-newsrc-order preserve-start-stop-characters quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete save-will-advance select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface no-signature-at-bottom use-current-dir no-use-function-keys --1442843031-288104241-798432999=:3137-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 22:17:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14199; Thu, 20 Apr 95 22:17:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25292; Thu, 20 Apr 95 21:59:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25285; Thu, 20 Apr 95 21:59:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2Amg-00038QC; Thu, 20 Apr 95 21:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: "signature-at-the-bottom" ??? Date: 21 Apr 1995 02:02:51 GMT Message-Id: <3n73ob$okd@grape.epix.net> References: <1995Apr8.200554.1@milo> rrlepage@stthomas.edu wrote: : Can someone help this "newbie" enable the "signature-at-the-bottom" : feature for the 3.89v of Pine?? A detailed explaination of set commands : would be most helpful!!! >From pine main screen type S for setup, type C for config, scroll down untill you see the signature at bottom option, and turn it on,, then exit config, Bingo! Uh ... ya did make a .signature file, didn't ya? DearOldDad /~~~/~~~/~~~/\ /\/\ /\ / / / / \/\/ POCONO MTNS PA DearOldDad:The older I get, the smarter I used to be./ \/\jgvd@epix.net Jonathan:Kids are people too; Have guitar, will travel.\ \/\ \ /\ \ Thought for the day: / / / / / / \/ \ \/ \/\ None:My mind is temporarily out of order. /___/___/___/___/____\/____\_\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 20 22:33:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14653; Thu, 20 Apr 95 22:33:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15383; Thu, 20 Apr 95 22:20:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15377; Thu, 20 Apr 95 22:20:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2B43-00038QC; Thu, 20 Apr 95 22:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dummy@emf.net (Robert Brown) Subject: pgp for mush? Date: 20 Apr 1995 17:36:19 GMT Message-Id: <3n662j$13f@emf.emf.net> Does anyone know if there is a version of mush which will automatically encrypt and decrypt (via PGP) messages when they are sent and received? I'd also be open to versions of elm, mh, or pine which simulate a mush interface that also have this functionality. Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 21 01:23:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19224; Fri, 21 Apr 95 01:23:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17374; Fri, 21 Apr 95 01:12:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17368; Fri, 21 Apr 95 01:12:14 -0700 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA27421; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 01:12:10 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 01:12:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: Eudora (Mac) -> MIME? To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone know the switches to set when sending from Eudora->a MIME mailer like Pine? My correspondant just sent me a file that had attachments 2.1 and 2.2! I've not seen fractional numbers before...Was one the "resource fork"?, and the other the rest? If there is a Mac user or other that might enlighten me, I would look forward to the email at the address below. Many Thanks in advance. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 21 01:35:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19737; Fri, 21 Apr 95 01:35:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28409; Fri, 21 Apr 95 01:24:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28403; Fri, 21 Apr 95 01:24:12 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:21:03 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA02934; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:24:36 +0100 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:24:32 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Barry D Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: imap without username/password In-Reply-To: <3n5ufe$84@eri.erinet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII [Apologies if you have already tried/done these... :-] * The standard way of testing such things is to try giving the equivalent rsh command from a client machine "by hand": rsh serverhost /etc/rimapd This may then give you some useful information. In particular, something like "access denied" implies that the server host doesn't trust your client for the rsh mechanism. * For the "rsh xxx /etc/rimapd" to work the server machine must "trust" the client. This can be done on a per-user basis by having a suitably set up ".rhosts" file in each users' home directory (Be *careful* when setting these up!). Alternatively a "global" file can be set up in the form of "hosts.equiv". Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On 20 Apr 1995, Barry D wrote: > I'm trying to install pine on a network of sun machines, and want to use > our server machine for imap (currently we NFS mount the mail spool > directories). However, I don't want our users to have to enter their > username and password when they start pine. Reading the Pine Technical > Notes (under installing imapd), it looks like I should be able to do this > using the standard rsh mechanism. > > Doesn't appear to work however, since I'm always prompted for username > and password. Although the documentation only mentions creating a link to > rimapd, I have also changed the inetd.conf file. > > In all honesty, I haven't dug through the code to figure this out - kinda > hoping someone can save me that trouble. Any suggestions? > > ----- > Barry D. Hassler barry.hassler@hcst.com > Executive Vice President, > Principle Communications Consultant > > Hassler Communication Systems Technology, Inc OFFICE: +1 513-390-7486 > 5329 Ridgewood Road West (VOICE AND FAX) > Springfield, Ohio 45503-5631 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 21 02:04:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20392; Fri, 21 Apr 95 02:04:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28818; Fri, 21 Apr 95 01:51:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28812; Fri, 21 Apr 95 01:51:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2ENA-00038TC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 01:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Guy BRAND Subject: Macro or shortcuts needed Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 19:18:23 GMT Hi, Is there any plan for adding macros or shortcuts feature to Pine ? One can already execute many commands when starting Pine (l,i, etc) it would also be great to be able to record a shortcut to be allowed to use commands when reading news, such as $ = ;aadxTAB when reading news groups to be able to purge a news group from all its messages and check the next news group. Cheers GB ___ ___ Guy BRAND - Consultant svp@chimie - ==== / |\/ |\ ____________________________________ =---==== / |/ || Work : Guy.Brand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr =-----==== / /| /| || Home : gizmo@fondation.u-strasbg.fr ==---===== /_/ |__/ |_|| ======== \_\/\__\/\_\|oins on pense, plus on parle (MONTESQUIEU). ==== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 21 03:19:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21979; Fri, 21 Apr 95 03:19:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18660; Fri, 21 Apr 95 03:13:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18654; Fri, 21 Apr 95 03:13:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2Fg9-00038RC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 03:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Guy BRAND Subject: Full newsgroups list HOWTO ? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 19:20:34 GMT A question concerning reading news from Pine : how can I get the full list of all newsgroups in the folder list of Pine so that I can decide whether to subscribe or not by hand ? When I use my newsrc file under PC Pine I just get the list of the subscribed newsgroup and would like to check for other groups and perhaps subscribe to them too. Thanks for advises GB ___ ___ Guy BRAND - Consultant svp@chimie - ==== / |\/ |\ ____________________________________ =---==== / |/ || Work : Guy.Brand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr =-----==== / /| /| || Home : gizmo@fondation.u-strasbg.fr ==---===== /_/ |__/ |_|| ======== \_\/\__\/\_\|oins on pense, plus on parle (MONTESQUIEU). ==== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 21 05:34:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25747; Fri, 21 Apr 95 05:34:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01751; Fri, 21 Apr 95 05:20:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01744; Fri, 21 Apr 95 05:19:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2Hcv-00038RC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 05:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Penio Penev Subject: Bug (ID NM9QJ): Pine cannot save to CYRUS IMAP Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-2125129881-1109187227-798449010=:1069" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:23:30 GMT This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---2125129881-1109187227-798449010=:1069 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am experimenting with the CIRUS IMAP server. I have a mailbox, under the name of user.penev and I am trying to save to user.penev.radev Pine correctly generates the following command: A00018 COPY 2 user.penev.radev But it gets the following answer: A00018 NO Mailbox does not exist So why doesn't pine just create the mailbox. It usually offers to do so in the filesystem mailboxes. -- Penio Penev 1-212-327-7423 ---2125129881-1109187227-798449010=:1069 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; name="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = penev, full = Penio Penev home = /home/penev home_dir= /home/penev hostname= pisa localdom= pisa userdom= pisa.rockefeller.edu maildom= pisa.rockefeller.edu cur_cntxt= [] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= {pisa}user.penev msgmap: tot=0, cur=0, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=OrderedSubj inbox is mail_stream term type=iris-ansi, ttyname=/dev/ttyq3, size=45x85, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Penio Penev user-id : penev user-domain : pisa.rockefeller.edu smtp-server : pisa.rockefeller.edu nntp-server : rockyd.rockefeller.edu inbox-path : {pisa}user.penev incoming-folders : RFE M/RFE : Diag M/Diag : ListDiag /usr/people/list/.etc/request : Lists M/Lists : returned M/returned : AUBG M/AUBG : Connectionists M/nnet : ANSForth M/ANSForth : SmartList M/SmartList : HPC M/HPC : HPCNews M/news : InterNIC M/internic : reinforce M/reinforce : PFE M/PFE : WINE M/WINE : RemotePrinting M/tpc-rp : s.c.b *{pisa:11900/nntp}soc.culture.bulgaria folder-collections : {pisa}user.penev.[] : Mail {pisa.rockefeller.edu}Mail/[] : News saves {pisa.rockefeller.edu}News/[] : Bulgaria htdocs/Bulgaria/Articles/[] : {pisa/143}[] : home ~/[] news-collections : News *{rockyd/nntp}[] : News from pisa *{pisa:11900/nntp}[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail read-message-folder : received signature-file : .pinesig address-book : .addressbook feature-list : news-read-in-newsrc-order : quit-without-confirm : show-selected-in-boldface : signature-at-bottom : compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm : delete-skips-deleted : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : save-will-advance : auto-move-read-msgs : expunge-without-confirm : news-post-without-validation : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : enable-incoming-folders : include-attachments-in-reply customized-hdrs : Reply-To: : Return-Receipt-To: saved-msg-name-rule : by-sender fcc-name-rule : by-recipient sort-key : OrderedSubj addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last editor : xemacs -nw use-only-domain-name : no printer : lp personal-print-comma : lp standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 95.4 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/home/penev/.pinerc) ======= user-domain : pisa.rockefeller.edu smtp-server : pisa.rockefeller.edu nntp-server : rockyd.rockefeller.edu inbox-path : {pisa}user.penev incoming-folders : RFE M/RFE : Diag M/Diag : ListDiag /usr/people/list/.etc/request : Lists M/Lists : returned M/returned : AUBG M/AUBG : Connectionists M/nnet : ANSForth M/ANSForth : SmartList M/SmartList : HPC M/HPC : HPCNews M/news : InterNIC M/internic : reinforce M/reinforce : PFE M/PFE : WINE M/WINE : RemotePrinting M/tpc-rp : s.c.b *{pisa:11900/nntp}soc.culture.bulgaria folder-collections : {pisa}user.penev.[] : Mail {pisa.rockefeller.edu}Mail/[] : News saves {pisa.rockefeller.edu}News/[] : Bulgaria htdocs/Bulgaria/Articles/[] : {pisa/143}[] : home ~/[] news-collections : News *{rockyd/nntp}[] : News from pisa *{pisa:11900/nntp}[] read-message-folder : received signature-file : .pinesig feature-list : news-read-in-newsrc-order : quit-without-confirm : show-selected-in-boldface : signature-at-bottom : compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm : delete-skips-deleted : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : save-will-advance : auto-move-read-msgs : expunge-without-confirm : news-post-without-validation : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : enable-incoming-folders : include-attachments-in-reply customized-hdrs : Reply-To: : Return-Receipt-To: saved-msg-name-rule : by-sender fcc-name-rule : by-recipient sort-key : OrderedSubj editor : xemacs -nw printer : lp personal-print-comma : lp last-time-prune-ques : 95.4 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd enable-aggregate-command-set enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd enable-full-header-cmd enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders expunge-without-confirm include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status news-post-without-validation news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys ---2125129881-1109187227-798449010=:1069-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 21 05:41:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25901; Fri, 21 Apr 95 05:41:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20309; Fri, 21 Apr 95 05:28:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20303; Fri, 21 Apr 95 05:28:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2Hmi-00038SC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 05:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: navarro@vents.uji.es (Enric Navarro Sanchis) Subject: Quoted Printable problems Date: 21 Apr 1995 11:56:00 GMT Message-Id: <3n86gg$k0r@oreig.uji.es> Hello, I have instaled pine3.91 and all works fine except the QP codification. I do not have seen any compile option or parameter in the configuration option .pinerc that talks about QP. The question is: when I send text with 8bit characters (ISO-xxxx) pine always send the message with Quoted-Printable indeed of 8-bit. Please, some help. Thanks in advance. -- Enric Navarro Sanchis e-mail:navarro@si.uji.es Analista de Sistemas Tfn: 964-345875 ext. 4119 Centre Processament de Dades | Oh, mother. I can feel | Universitat Jaume I | the soil falling over | Castello, Spain | my head. | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 21 11:55:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08754; Fri, 21 Apr 95 11:55:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09100; Fri, 21 Apr 95 11:45:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09094; Fri, 21 Apr 95 11:45:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2NhA-00038RC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 11:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: How to get Receipt? Date: 21 Apr 1995 05:31:41 -0500 Message-Id: <9504211037.AA12147@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> References: Various persons wrote : |> |> >> I would like to know about having a Return Receipt Generated when the |> >> person reads the message so that I will know if they had or not. |> >> Sometimes I don't get replys from people for a really long time and I am |> |> >If you are not getting replies from people for a long time, this could be |> >for a couple of reasons. |> |> >1) The peole who you are sending email to, get so much email that it |> >takes them a long time to answer (or they have other priorities, which |> >means that they do not read email that often :-) |> |> >2) The return (or sending) path of the emai means that the email itself |> >is taking a long time to get to your recipients. If your email has to go |> >through 3 gateways and each takes 1/2 day to deal with it (extreme I |> >agree), it would take 1 1/2 days for your email to get there ! |> |> You left out an important 3rd possibility: Maybe they just don't like him. Back at the time I was using BITNET mail it was offered as a default the possibility to know whether a mail message was "read" or "discarded" by the recipient (in this context "read" meant in Unix terms moved from the inbox to another folder, and "discarded" deleted from inbox, the recipient may or may not *actually* read the content ...). The justification for that was that mail delivery was a store-and- forward process across many nodes, and could stop for some time in between. I thought the facility was handy, and occasionally used it. The waste of bandwidth was minimal. I DO NOT SHARE THE OPINION this is offensive on my privacy. Nevertheless what one should be interested in, is whether mail is delivered, and if the recipient is present at work to read it. Given the way internet mail is delivered, there should usually be no reason to check for delivery, unless a gateway is involved. If there is no gateway, either the mail is delivered almost imme- diately (one could turn a verbose flag in some mailing programs, I've seen it on Suns, or use /usr/lib/sendmail -v to send the mail and see the SMTP dialogue), or if the node is not reachable it queues up on the origin node. Command mailq (or /usr/lib/sendmail -bp) can be used by anybody to show the content of the mail queue. Otherwise one can inspect the /var/spool/mqueue/syslog Assuming therefore that one knows whether mail is delivered or not, one can then use "finger" to see if the recipient is logged on, or not and since when. This should settle the case if no gateway is involved. If a gateway is involved then it might be appropriate to ask for a return receipt, I've never done it myself but I know newer Pine versions allow to do it in the custom header. Again I feel this is pretty justified, and not violating anybody's privacy, nor being disturbing. ( I feel more disturbed when people try to get my attention in real time using programs like "write", "talk", or VMS PHONE, or a real telephone !) -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 21 12:43:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11208; Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:43:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27710; Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:22:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27698; Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:22:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2OEU-00038TC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: myhsu@db.csie.ncu.edu.tw (Ming-Yen Hsu) Subject: Re: Quoted Printable problems Date: 21 Apr 1995 18:33:19 GMT Message-Id: <3n8tpf$ele@db.csie.ncu.edu.tw> References: <3n86gg$k0r@oreig.uji.es> Enric Navarro Sanchis (navarro@vents.uji.es) wrote: : I do not have seen any compile option or parameter in the : configuration option .pinerc that talks about QP. : The question is: : when I send text with 8bit characters (ISO-xxxx) pine always : send the message with Quoted-Printable indeed of 8-bit. : Please, some help. : Thanks in advance. Apply following patch then enable the 8bit option in Config menu (enable-send-only-8bit, enable-8bit-in subject). It seems pine 3.92 will add 8bit esmtp as a optional feature. diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile ./imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile *** ../pine3.91.orig/imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile Tue Oct 11 07:13:22 1994 --- ./imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile Mon Mar 20 03:06:17 1995 *************** *** 193,199 **** sun: # SUN-OS $(MAKE) mtest OS=$@ EXTRADRIVERS="$(EXTRADRIVERS)" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto \ ! CFLAGS="-g -Dconst= $(EXTRACFLAGS)" \ LDFLAGS="-ldl" sv2: # SVR2 --- 193,199 ---- sun: # SUN-OS $(MAKE) mtest OS=$@ EXTRADRIVERS="$(EXTRADRIVERS)" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto \ ! CFLAGS="-O2 -Dconst= $(EXTRACFLAGS)" \ LDFLAGS="-ldl" sv2: # SVR2 diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/imap/ANSI/imapd/Makefile ./imap/ANSI/imapd/Makefile *** ../pine3.91.orig/imap/ANSI/imapd/Makefile Tue Oct 12 13:29:19 1993 --- ./imap/ANSI/imapd/Makefile Mon Mar 20 03:06:17 1995 *************** *** 36,42 **** # Get local CFLAGS and LFLAGS definitions from c-client directory ! CFLAGS = -I$C `cat $C/CFLAGS` LDFLAGS = $(CCLIENTLIB) `cat $C/LDFLAGS` imapd: $(CCLIENTLIB) imapd.o --- 36,42 ---- # Get local CFLAGS and LFLAGS definitions from c-client directory ! CFLAGS = -I$C `cat $C/CFLAGS` -O2 LDFLAGS = $(CCLIENTLIB) `cat $C/LDFLAGS` imapd: $(CCLIENTLIB) imapd.o diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/imap/ANSI/ipopd/Makefile ./imap/ANSI/ipopd/Makefile *** ../pine3.91.orig/imap/ANSI/ipopd/Makefile Tue Oct 12 13:32:58 1993 --- ./imap/ANSI/ipopd/Makefile Mon Mar 20 03:06:18 1995 *************** *** 36,42 **** # Get local CFLAGS and LFLAGS definitions from c-client directory ! CFLAGS = -I$C `cat $C/CFLAGS` LDFLAGS = $(CCLIENTLIB) `cat $C/LDFLAGS` ipopd: ipop2d ipop3d --- 36,42 ---- # Get local CFLAGS and LFLAGS definitions from c-client directory ! CFLAGS = -I$C `cat $C/CFLAGS` -O2 LDFLAGS = $(CCLIENTLIB) `cat $C/LDFLAGS` ipopd: ipop2d ipop3d diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/imap/non-ANSI/c-client/Makefile ./imap/non-ANSI/c-client/Makefile *** ../pine3.91.orig/imap/non-ANSI/c-client/Makefile Tue Oct 11 07:13:22 1994 --- ./imap/non-ANSI/c-client/Makefile Mon Mar 20 03:06:18 1995 *************** *** 193,199 **** sun: # SUN-OS $(MAKE) mtest OS=$@ EXTRADRIVERS="$(EXTRADRIVERS)" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto \ ! CFLAGS="-g -Dconst= $(EXTRACFLAGS)" \ LDFLAGS="-ldl" sv2: # SVR2 --- 193,199 ---- sun: # SUN-OS $(MAKE) mtest OS=$@ EXTRADRIVERS="$(EXTRADRIVERS)" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto \ ! CFLAGS="-O2 -Dconst= $(EXTRACFLAGS)" \ LDFLAGS="-ldl" sv2: # SVR2 diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/imap/non-ANSI/c-client/bezerk.c ./imap/non-ANSI/c-client/bezerk.c *** ../pine3.91.orig/imap/non-ANSI/c-client/bezerk.c Fri Oct 7 06:46:32 1994 --- ./imap/non-ANSI/c-client/bezerk.c Mon Mar 20 03:06:18 1995 *************** *** 1644,1657 **** i = (sod + i) - s; /* total number of tries */ do { /* fast search for newline */ if ((0x80808080 & (0x01010101 + (0x7f7f7f7f & ~(m ^ *(Word *) s)))) && ! (s1 = ((s[3] == '\n') ? (s + 4) : ! ((s[2] == '\n') ? (s + 3) : ! ((s[1] == '\n') ? (s + 2) : ! ((s[0] == '\n') ? (s + 1) : NIL)))))) { ! VALID (s1,t,ti,zn); /* interesting word, check it closer */ if (ti) return s1; } ! else s += 4; /* try next word */ i -= 4; /* count a word checked */ } while (i > 24); /* continue until end of plausible string */ } --- 1644,1657 ---- i = (sod + i) - s; /* total number of tries */ do { /* fast search for newline */ if ((0x80808080 & (0x01010101 + (0x7f7f7f7f & ~(m ^ *(Word *) s)))) && ! /* find rightmost newline in word */ ! ((*(s1 = s + 3) == '\n') || (*--s1 == '\n') || ! (*--s1 == '\n') || (*--s1 == '\n'))) { ! s1++; /* skip past newline */ ! VALID (s1,t,ti,zn); /* see if valid From line */ if (ti) return s1; } ! s += 4; /* try next word */ i -= 4; /* count a word checked */ } while (i > 24); /* continue until end of plausible string */ } diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/imap/non-ANSI/c-client/pop3.c ./imap/non-ANSI/c-client/pop3.c *** ../pine3.91.orig/imap/non-ANSI/c-client/pop3.c Mon Oct 10 09:01:54 1994 --- ./imap/non-ANSI/c-client/pop3.c Mon Mar 20 03:06:19 1995 *************** *** 363,370 **** LOCAL->buf = (char *) fs_get ((LOCAL->buflen = MAXMESSAGESIZE) + 1); nmsgs = strtol (LOCAL->reply,NIL,10); /* create caches */ ! LOCAL->header = (char **) fs_get (i * sizeof (char *)); ! LOCAL->body = (char **) fs_get (i * sizeof (char *)); for (i = 0; i < nmsgs;) { /* initialize caches */ LOCAL->header[i] = LOCAL->body[i] = NIL; /* instantiate elt */ --- 363,370 ---- LOCAL->buf = (char *) fs_get ((LOCAL->buflen = MAXMESSAGESIZE) + 1); nmsgs = strtol (LOCAL->reply,NIL,10); /* create caches */ ! LOCAL->header = (char **) fs_get (nmsgs * sizeof (char *)); ! LOCAL->body = (char **) fs_get (nmsgs * sizeof (char *)); for (i = 0; i < nmsgs;) { /* initialize caches */ LOCAL->header[i] = LOCAL->body[i] = NIL; /* instantiate elt */ diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/imap/non-ANSI/imapd/Makefile ./imap/non-ANSI/imapd/Makefile *** ../pine3.91.orig/imap/non-ANSI/imapd/Makefile Tue Oct 12 13:29:19 1993 --- ./imap/non-ANSI/imapd/Makefile Mon Mar 20 03:06:19 1995 *************** *** 36,42 **** # Get local CFLAGS and LFLAGS definitions from c-client directory ! CFLAGS = -I$C `cat $C/CFLAGS` LDFLAGS = $(CCLIENTLIB) `cat $C/LDFLAGS` imapd: $(CCLIENTLIB) imapd.o --- 36,42 ---- # Get local CFLAGS and LFLAGS definitions from c-client directory ! CFLAGS = -I$C `cat $C/CFLAGS` -O2 LDFLAGS = $(CCLIENTLIB) `cat $C/LDFLAGS` imapd: $(CCLIENTLIB) imapd.o diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/imap/non-ANSI/ipopd/Makefile ./imap/non-ANSI/ipopd/Makefile *** ../pine3.91.orig/imap/non-ANSI/ipopd/Makefile Tue Oct 12 13:32:58 1993 --- ./imap/non-ANSI/ipopd/Makefile Mon Mar 20 03:06:19 1995 *************** *** 36,42 **** # Get local CFLAGS and LFLAGS definitions from c-client directory ! CFLAGS = -I$C `cat $C/CFLAGS` LDFLAGS = $(CCLIENTLIB) `cat $C/LDFLAGS` ipopd: ipop2d ipop3d --- 36,42 ---- # Get local CFLAGS and LFLAGS definitions from c-client directory ! CFLAGS = -I$C `cat $C/CFLAGS` -O2 LDFLAGS = $(CCLIENTLIB) `cat $C/LDFLAGS` ipopd: ipop2d ipop3d diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/pico/composer.c ./pico/composer.c *** ../pine3.91.orig/pico/composer.c Fri Sep 30 06:29:19 1994 --- ./pico/composer.c Mon Mar 20 03:30:40 1995 *************** *** 144,149 **** --- 144,152 ---- struct on_display ods; /* global on_display struct */ + /* enable-8bit-in-subject feature*/ + int ext_char_in_subject = 0; + /* * useful macros */ *************** *** 981,988 **** } } ! ! if(ch > 0x1f && ch < 0x7f){ /* char input */ /* * if we are allowing editing, insert the new char * end up leaving tbufp pointing to newly --- 984,997 ---- } } ! ! if(ch > 0x1f && ( ! (ch < 0xff && (ch != 0x7f) && (ext_char_in_subject)) | ( ! (ch < 0x7f && (!ext_char_in_subject)) ! ))) ! { ! ! /* char input */ /* * if we are allowing editing, insert the new char * end up leaving tbufp pointing to newly diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/pico/makefile.lnx ./pico/makefile.lnx *** ../pine3.91.orig/pico/makefile.lnx Wed Oct 12 05:57:36 1994 --- ./pico/makefile.lnx Mon Mar 20 03:06:20 1995 *************** *** 40,48 **** # #includes symbol for debugging ! DASHO= -g #for normal build ! #DASHO= -O2 CFLAGS= -Dbsd -DLINUX -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL --- 40,48 ---- # #includes symbol for debugging ! #DASHO= -g #for normal build ! DASHO= -O2 CFLAGS= -Dbsd -DLINUX -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/pico/makefile.sun ./pico/makefile.sun *** ../pine3.91.orig/pico/makefile.sun Sat Feb 26 02:37:22 1994 --- ./pico/makefile.sun Mon Mar 20 03:06:20 1995 *************** *** 40,48 **** # #includes symbol info for debugging ! DASHO= -g #for normal build ! #DASHO= -O CFLAGS= -Dsun -DJOB_CONTROL -ldl --- 40,48 ---- # #includes symbol info for debugging ! #DASHO= -g #for normal build ! DASHO= -O2 CFLAGS= -Dsun -DJOB_CONTROL -ldl diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/pine/init.c ./pine/init.c *** ../pine3.91.orig/pine/init.c Tue Oct 11 05:34:29 1994 --- ./pine/init.c Mon Mar 20 03:15:01 1995 *************** *** 864,874 **** --- 864,876 ---- {"enable-alternate-editor-cmd", F_ENABLE_ALT_ED}, {"enable-alternate-editor-implicitly", F_ALT_ED_NOW}, {"enable-bounce-cmd", F_ENABLE_BOUNCE}, + {"enable-8bit-in-subject", F_8BIT_IN_SUBJECT}, {"enable-flag-cmd", F_ENABLE_FLAG}, {"enable-full-header-cmd", F_ENABLE_FULL_HDR}, {"enable-incoming-folders", F_ENABLE_INCOMING}, {"enable-jump-shortcut", F_ENABLE_JUMP}, {"enable-mail-check-cue", F_SHOW_DELAY_CUE}, + {"enable-send-only-8bit", F_SEND_ONLY_8BIT}, {"enable-suspend", F_CAN_SUSPEND}, {"enable-tab-completion", F_ENABLE_TAB_COMPLETE}, {"enable-unix-pipe-cmd", F_ENABLE_PIPE}, *************** *** 2089,2100 **** } /*--- Var is not user controlled, leave it alone for back compat ---*/ ! if(!v->is_user){ ! if(which_vars == ParseLocal){ pline->is_var = 0; pline->line = cpystr(line); pline++; - } continue; } --- 2091,2100 ---- } /*--- Var is not user controlled, leave it alone for back compat ---*/ ! if(!v->is_user && which_vars == ParseLocal){ pline->is_var = 0; pline->line = cpystr(line); pline++; continue; } diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/pine/makefile.lnx ./pine/makefile.lnx *** ../pine3.91.orig/pine/makefile.lnx Wed Oct 12 06:24:30 1994 --- ./pine/makefile.lnx Mon Mar 20 03:06:21 1995 *************** *** 57,65 **** RM= rm -f LN= ln -s MAKE= make ! OPTIMIZE= # -O2 PROFILE= # -pg ! DEBUG= -DDEBUG IMAPDIR= ../c-client PICODIR= ../pico --- 57,65 ---- RM= rm -f LN= ln -s MAKE= make ! OPTIMIZE= -O2 PROFILE= # -pg ! DEBUG= # -DDEBUG IMAPDIR= ../c-client PICODIR= ../pico diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/pine/makefile.sun ./pine/makefile.sun *** ../pine3.91.orig/pine/makefile.sun Wed Oct 5 14:14:51 1994 --- ./pine/makefile.sun Mon Mar 20 03:06:21 1995 *************** *** 57,65 **** RM= rm -f LN= ln -s MAKE= make ! OPTIMIZE= # -O PROFILE= # -pg ! DEBUG= -g -DDEBUG IMAPDIR= ../c-client PICODIR= ../pico --- 57,65 ---- RM= rm -f LN= ln -s MAKE= make ! OPTIMIZE= -O2 PROFILE= # -pg ! DEBUG= # -g -DDEBUG IMAPDIR= ../c-client PICODIR= ../pico diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/pine/osdep/os-sun.h ./pine/osdep/os-sun.h *** ../pine3.91.orig/pine/osdep/os-sun.h Tue Oct 11 06:30:00 1994 --- ./pine/osdep/os-sun.h Mon Mar 20 03:06:21 1995 *************** *** 146,152 **** #define POSTPONED_MAIL "postponed-mail" #define POSTPONED_MSGS "postponed-msgs" #define INTERRUPTED_MAIL ".pine-interrupted-mail" ! #define DF_MAIL_DIRECTORY "mail" #define INBOX_NAME "INBOX" #define DF_SIGNATURE_FILE ".signature" #define DF_ELM_STYLE_SAVE "no" --- 146,152 ---- #define POSTPONED_MAIL "postponed-mail" #define POSTPONED_MSGS "postponed-msgs" #define INTERRUPTED_MAIL ".pine-interrupted-mail" ! #define DF_MAIL_DIRECTORY "Mail" #define INBOX_NAME "INBOX" #define DF_SIGNATURE_FILE ".signature" #define DF_ELM_STYLE_SAVE "no" diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/pine/other.c ./pine/other.c *** ../pine3.91.orig/pine/other.c Sat Oct 8 08:29:44 1994 --- ./pine/other.c Mon Mar 20 03:48:44 1995 *************** *** 1089,1094 **** --- 1089,1098 ---- return(h_config_compose_rejects_unqual); case F_FAKE_NEW_IN_NEWS: return(h_config_news_uses_recent); + case F_SEND_ONLY_8BIT: + return(h_config_send_only_8bit); + case F_8BIT_IN_SUBJECT: + return(h_config_ext_char_in_subject); default : return(NO_HELP); } diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/pine/pine.h ./pine/pine.h *** ../pine3.91.orig/pine/pine.h Sat Oct 8 08:25:55 1994 --- ./pine/pine.h Mon Mar 20 03:32:58 1995 *************** *** 600,606 **** #define F_PRESERVE_START_STOP 40 #define F_COMPOSE_REJECTS_UNQUAL 41 #define F_FAKE_NEW_IN_NEWS 42 ! #define F_LAST_FEATURE 42 /* RESET WITH NEW FEATURES */ #if (F_LAST_FEATURE > (LARGEST_BITMAP - 1)) Whoa! Too many features! --- 600,608 ---- #define F_PRESERVE_START_STOP 40 #define F_COMPOSE_REJECTS_UNQUAL 41 #define F_FAKE_NEW_IN_NEWS 42 ! #define F_SEND_ONLY_8BIT 43 ! #define F_8BIT_IN_SUBJECT 44 ! #define F_LAST_FEATURE 44 /* RESET WITH NEW FEATURES */ #if (F_LAST_FEATURE > (LARGEST_BITMAP - 1)) Whoa! Too many features! diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/pine/pine.hlp ./pine/pine.hlp *** ../pine3.91.orig/pine/pine.hlp Tue Oct 11 09:47:48 1994 --- ./pine/pine.hlp Mon Mar 20 05:08:01 1995 *************** *** 3560,3565 **** --- 3560,3588 ---- useful if you have accounts on multiple computers. + ====== h_config_send_only_8bit ===== + FEATURE: enable-send-only-8bit + + This feature changes the original content-transfer-encoding scheme. If + set, Pine will use 8BIT instead of encoding 8 bit character into BASE64 + or QUOTEQUOTED-PRINTABLE in mail body. (See also \"enable-8bit-in- + subject\".) + + NOTE: This feature should only be set if you can make sure both the + sender and recipient are using 8 bit capable MTAs. + + + ====== h_config_ext_char_in_subject + FEATURE: enable-8bit-in-subject + + This feature enables 8 bit ascii character editing in Subject field. + By default, subject field accepts 7 bit character only. (See also + \"enable-send-only-8bit\".) + + NOTE: This feature should only be set if you can make sure both the + sender and recipient are using 8 bit capable MTAs. + + ====== h_config_attach_in_reply ====== FEATURE: include-attachments-in-reply diff -r -c ../pine3.91.orig/pine/send.c ./pine/send.c *** ../pine3.91.orig/pine/send.c Tue Oct 11 04:01:34 1994 --- ./pine/send.c Mon Mar 20 03:31:52 1995 *************** *** 159,164 **** --- 159,167 ---- int open_fcc(); #endif /* ANSI */ + /* enable-8bit-in-subject feature */ + extern ext_char_in_subject; + /* * Buffer to hold pointers into pine data that's needed by pico. *************** *** 166,172 **** */ static PICO pbuf; - /* * Storage object where the FCC is to be written. * This is amazingly bogus. Much work was done to put messages --- 169,174 ---- *************** *** 1755,1760 **** --- 1757,1769 ---- clear_cursor_pos(); dprint(1, (debugfile, "\n ---- COMPOSER ----\n")); + + /* enable extended ascii char feature */ + if (F_ON(F_8BIT_IN_SUBJECT, ps_global)) + ext_char_in_subject = 1; + else + ext_char_in_subject = 0; + editor_result = pico(&pbuf); dprint(4, (debugfile, "... composer returns (0x%x)\n", editor_result)); *************** *** 3395,3401 **** body->type = TYPETEXT; if (new_encoding == ENCOTHER) ! new_encoding = ENC7BIT; /* short lines, no 8 bit */ } else if ((eight_bit_chars * 100L)/len < 30L) { /* --- 3404,3414 ---- body->type = TYPETEXT; if (new_encoding == ENCOTHER) ! if (F_ON(F_SEND_ONLY_8BIT, ps_global)) ! new_encoding = ENC8BIT; ! else ! new_encoding = ENC7BIT; /* short lines, no 8 bit */ ! } else if ((eight_bit_chars * 100L)/len < 30L) { /* *************** *** 3421,3427 **** * unlikely to be readable with > 30% of the * text encoded anyway, so we might as well save space... */ ! new_encoding = ENCBINARY; /* > 30% 8 bit chars */ } } --- 3434,3445 ---- * unlikely to be readable with > 30% of the * text encoded anyway, so we might as well save space... */ ! ! if (F_ON(F_SEND_ONLY_8BIT, ps_global)) ! new_encoding = ENC8BIT; ! else ! new_encoding = ENCBINARY; /* > 30% 8 bit chars */ ! } } *************** *** 3942,3948 **** switch (body->encoding) { /* all else needs filtering */ case ENC8BIT: /* encode 8BIT into QUOTED-PRINTABLE */ ! gf_link_filter(gf_8bit_qp); break; case ENCBINARY: /* encode binary into BASE64 */ --- 3960,3967 ---- switch (body->encoding) { /* all else needs filtering */ case ENC8BIT: /* encode 8BIT into QUOTED-PRINTABLE */ ! if (F_OFF(F_SEND_ONLY_8BIT, ps_global)) ! gf_link_filter(gf_8bit_qp); break; case ENCBINARY: /* encode binary into BASE64 */ *************** *** 3998,4004 **** if (body->encoding) /* note: encoding 7BIT never output! */ sprintf (*dst += strlen (*dst),"Content-Transfer-Encoding: %s\015\012", body_encodings[body->encoding == ENCBINARY ? ENCBASE64 : ! body->encoding == ENC8BIT ? ENCQUOTEDPRINTABLE : body->encoding <= ENCMAX ? body->encoding : ENCOTHER]); if (body->id) sprintf (*dst += strlen (*dst),"Content-ID: %s\015\012", --- 4017,4025 ---- if (body->encoding) /* note: encoding 7BIT never output! */ sprintf (*dst += strlen (*dst),"Content-Transfer-Encoding: %s\015\012", body_encodings[body->encoding == ENCBINARY ? ENCBASE64 : ! body->encoding == ENC8BIT ? ! F_ON(F_SEND_ONLY_8BIT, ps_global) ? ENC8BIT : ! ENCQUOTEDPRINTABLE : body->encoding <= ENCMAX ? body->encoding : ENCOTHER]); if (body->id) sprintf (*dst += strlen (*dst),"Content-ID: %s\015\012", -- _____ _____ _____ ____ _____ | \| _ \ Ming-Yen Hsu, Database Lab. NCU Taiwan ROC | \/ \| | | | | | _ < Computer Science & Information Engineering | | | <--<| | | |_____/|_____/ Electronic Mail : myhsu@db.csie.ncu.edu.tw |__|__/\____/\_____| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 21 14:05:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14651; Fri, 21 Apr 95 14:05:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12110; Fri, 21 Apr 95 13:52:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12104; Fri, 21 Apr 95 13:52:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2PWU-00038QC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 13:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin McElearney Subject: Re: Random .sig generator Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:18:25 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3n5shv$1su@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3n5shv$1su@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA> On 20 Apr 1995, Bruce Mills wrote: > Can anyone give me an idea how to set up a random sig generator, that > will insert spiffy quotations in your signature? Not to make it too easy for you.. make a named pipe file mknod .sig-fort p write a script which keeps writing to this file while 1 fortune -s >> .sig-fort end Have your sig be cat .sig .sig-fort Kevin McElearney (KM108) _________________________________________________________________________ BBN Planet Corporation Phone: +1 617 873-4684 New England Region Engineering Fax: +1 617 873-5620 150 Cambridge Park Drive, 20/342 http://www.bbnplanet.com/ Cambridge, MA 02140 mailto:kmcelear@bbnplanet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 21 14:21:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15530; Fri, 21 Apr 95 14:21:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12477; Fri, 21 Apr 95 14:08:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12470; Fri, 21 Apr 95 14:08:36 -0700 Received: from sun.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA25278; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:07:18 -0600 Received: by sun (5.x//ident-1.0) id AA05388; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:47:34 -0600 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:47:33 -0600 (MDT) From: Kneppers Marc To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PC-Pine connecting to UNIX Pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I've installed Pine on our sysv4 system here and it is working great. I now have had a request to link up the PC's to the UNIX machine for mail. We have a UNIX machine with an ethernet connection. The PC's are on a NOVELL network hooked into the Ethernet as well. All this is local - no internet access yet, but the UNIX box has an IP address and the NOVELL file server also has an IP address as well as the communication server. We want to use PC-Pine for Windows. The way I understand it, PC-Pine acts as an smtp client and the UNIX box is the smtp server. We have downloaded PC-Pine and it is working ... but without accessing the mailboxes on the UNIX machine. (I get a message like '[host]: connection refused') Problem: How do the PC's see their mailboxes on the UNIX machine. (normal acces from PC to UNIX is via a telnet process and a login/password deal). On the PC's, the user names are: SAM (for example) On the UNIX, the user names are: smiths (for the same user: sam smith) I get the feeling that this has something to do with IMAP but I am not sure. How is IMAP implemented? The documentation is scarce. How does the WinSock stuff fit into this as well? If you haven't guessed yet - PC's are not my strength - I am the UNIX guy. Any help would be greatly appreciated. The possible connection between the PC's and UNIX promises to be *extremely* useful and popular with the people around here. Thanks, Marc Kneppers From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 21 14:24:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15674; Fri, 21 Apr 95 14:24:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12638; Fri, 21 Apr 95 14:14:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12632; Fri, 21 Apr 95 14:14:03 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22072; Fri, 21 Apr 95 14:13:34 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 14:13:32 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Uwe Richter Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Accessing new mail from MH folders? In-Reply-To: <3mcb4b$np0@fsuj01.rz.uni-jena.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You should be using #MHINBOX rather than #MH/INBOX. It is a special keyword that tells Pine to do the "inc" function... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 10 Apr 1995, Uwe Richter wrote: > Date: 10 Apr 1995 22:23:07 GMT > From: Uwe Richter > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Accessing new mail from MH folders? > > > Hello, does anybody know how I can access new mails from > the mail spool directory via the "#mh" switch as a remote > MH folder. > If I try "{imap-server}#mh/INBOX" only the existing mails (that > were read previously) are seen, but no new mails. > > On the other side, if I set the incoming-folder to > "{imap-server}INBOX" new mails are seen but an error is > returned while saving read mails into a remote MH folder. > A directory is created, but no mail file can be written. > > ---------------debugging-------------- > .. > ---- QUIT SCREEN ---- > expunge and close mail stream "{paxp02.mipool.uni-jena.de}INBOX" > q_status_message, Count 1, "Closing "INBOX"..." > output_message(Closing "INBOX"...) > STATUS cmd:120, disp:1, length:0, max:1, min0IMAP DEBUG: A00009 SEARCH SEEN UNDELETED > IMAP DEBUG: * SEARCH 1 > IMAP DEBUG: A00009 OK SEARCH completed > IMAP DEBUG: A00010 COPY 1 #mh/read-messages > IMAP DEBUG: * OK [TRYCREATE] Must create mailbox before copy > IMAP mm_notify NIL : {paxp02.mipool.uni-jena.de}INBOX : [TRYCREATE] Must create mailbox before copy > IMAP DEBUG: A00010 NO COPY failed: No such destination mailbox > IMAP 0:19 4/11 mm_log ERROR: COPY failed: No such destination mailbox > prev_col: 0, prev_end:3, top_column:24 spacing:22 > 0 (null) (null) 0 > 1 ^C Cancel 0 > 2 Y [Yes] 23 > 3 N No 23 > 4 (null) (null) 46 > 5 (null) (null) 46 > 6 (null) (null) 68 > 7 (null) (null) 68 > 8 (null) (null) 90 > 9 (null) (null) 90 > 11 (null) (null) 112 > row: -2, real_row: 22, column: 0 > Select readfds:1 timeval:0,0 > Select on tty returned 1 > Read returned 1 > Read char returning: 121 y > Want_to read: y (121) > IMAP DEBUG: A00011 Create #mh/read-messages > IMAP DEBUG: A00011 OK CREATE completed > IMAP 0:19 4/11 mm_log babble: CREATE completed > IMAP DEBUG: A00012 COPY 1 #mh/read-messages > IMAP DEBUG: * OK [TRYCREATE] Must create mailbox before copy > IMAP mm_notify NIL : {paxp02.mipool.uni-jena.de}INBOX : [TRYCREATE] Must create mailbox before copy > IMAP DEBUG: A00012 NO COPY failed: No such destination mailbox > IMAP 0:19 4/11 mm_log ERROR: COPY failed: No such destination mailbox > q_status_message, Count 1, "Unable to save 1 read messages to read-messages" > ---------------debugging-------------- > > > Many thanks in advance. > > Uwe > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 21 14:39:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16634; Fri, 21 Apr 95 14:39:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13076; Fri, 21 Apr 95 14:30:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13069; Fri, 21 Apr 95 14:30:29 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22661; Fri, 21 Apr 95 14:30:23 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 14:30:21 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Guy BRAND Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Full newsgroups list HOWTO ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Select the News collection in the folder list, then press 'a' to add (subscribe) a newsgroup and ^T to select from the full list... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 21 Apr 1995, Guy BRAND wrote: > Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 19:20:34 GMT > From: Guy BRAND > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Full newsgroups list HOWTO ? > > > A question concerning reading news from Pine : how can I get the full list of > all newsgroups in the folder list of Pine so that I can decide whether to > subscribe or not by hand ? When I use my newsrc file under PC Pine I just get > the list of the subscribed newsgroup and would like to check for other groups > and perhaps subscribe to them too. > > Thanks for advises > GB > > > > ___ ___ Guy BRAND - Consultant svp@chimie - ==== > / |\/ |\ ____________________________________ =---==== > / |/ || Work : Guy.Brand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr =-----==== > / /| /| || Home : gizmo@fondation.u-strasbg.fr ==---===== > /_/ |__/ |_|| ======== > \_\/\__\/\_\|oins on pense, plus on parle (MONTESQUIEU). ==== > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 21 14:40:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16680; Fri, 21 Apr 95 14:40:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12966; Fri, 21 Apr 95 14:27:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12960; Fri, 21 Apr 95 14:27:25 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22575; Fri, 21 Apr 95 14:27:18 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 14:27:17 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Guy BRAND Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Macro or shortcuts needed In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Macros are on our (infinitely long) to-do list............. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 21 Apr 1995, Guy BRAND wrote: > Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 19:18:23 GMT > From: Guy BRAND > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Macro or shortcuts needed > > > Hi, > > > Is there any plan for adding macros or shortcuts feature to Pine ? One can > already execute many commands when starting Pine (l,i, etc) it would also be > great to be able to record a shortcut to be allowed to use commands when > reading news, such as $ = ;aadxTAB when reading news groups to be able to > purge a news group from all its messages and check the next news group. > > Cheers > GB > > > ___ ___ Guy BRAND - Consultant svp@chimie - ==== > / |\/ |\ ____________________________________ =---==== > / |/ || Work : Guy.Brand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr =-----==== > / /| /| || Home : gizmo@fondation.u-strasbg.fr ==---===== > /_/ |__/ |_|| ======== > \_\/\__\/\_\|oins on pense, plus on parle (MONTESQUIEU). ==== > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 21 18:30:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26054; Fri, 21 Apr 95 18:30:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05138; Fri, 21 Apr 95 18:22:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05132; Fri, 21 Apr 95 18:22:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2Tp2-00038QC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 18:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Martha Alicia Alvarez Subject: re:unsubscribing Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:52:39 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I need to know how to unsubcribe from this news service or listserv please tell me what to do. Sincerely, Exasperated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 21 20:13:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28175; Fri, 21 Apr 95 20:13:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06426; Fri, 21 Apr 95 20:11:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06420; Fri, 21 Apr 95 20:11:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2Vak-00038XC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 20:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: imap without username/password Date: 21 Apr 1995 20:19:24 GMT Message-Id: <3n940c$1614@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3n5ufe$84@eri.erinet.com> In article <3n5ufe$84@eri.erinet.com>, Barry D wrote: >I'm trying to install pine on a network of sun machines, and want to use >our server machine for imap (currently we NFS mount the mail spool >directories). However, I don't want our users to have to enter their >username and password when they start pine. Reading the Pine Technical >Notes (under installing imapd), it looks like I should be able to do this >using the standard rsh mechanism. This is how I do all my mail access. In fact, I am planning to set it in the pine.conf.fixed so that all my 20,000 users are forced to use Pine in this manner (so that I can remove the NFS link to /var/spool/mail which we currently use and operate our mail fileserver as a sealed IMAP server). I have noticed no difference in mail usage in the past six months I have been operating in this manner (except for the problem when Pine gets suspended and doesn't send NOOPs and the connection closes). I don't think my users will even notice when I make the change (except that those users that use non-IMAP MUAs will be forced to switch to Pine). >Doesn't appear to work however, since I'm always prompted for username >and password. Although the documentation only mentions creating a link to >rimapd, I have also changed the inetd.conf file. Are you able to do other rsh commands from the login machine without a password? Can you do "rsh imap-machine-name /etc/rimapd" without a password? If not, you need to set the /etc/hosts.equiv or .rhosts file or the permissions on /etc/rimapd or on imapd such that you can. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 21 20:24:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28401; Fri, 21 Apr 95 20:24:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19896; Fri, 21 Apr 95 20:21:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19890; Fri, 21 Apr 95 20:21:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2ViA-00038WC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 20:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: morrowd@candu.aecl.ca (Dave Morrow) Subject: mailcap setup ---> mpeg files Date: 20 Apr 1995 22:21:00 GMT Message-Id: <3n6moc$oqr@shpk1.candu.aecl.ca> This is probably in the FAQ, appologies if it is. I am attempting to setup my mailcap file to call "/usr/local/bin/mpeg-play" for all video files ending with the extension .mpeg I have a line in my mailcap file that looks like; video/*; /usr/local/bin/mpeg_play %s ; test=test -n "$DISPLAY" I'm using pine 3.91 on HP-UX 9.01 -- ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// // David A. Morrow // // Network Administration, AECL Candu // // Tel: (905) 823-9060 x4587 Fax: (905)823-2302 // // Email: morrowd@candu.aecl.ca // ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 21 21:48:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00367; Fri, 21 Apr 95 21:48:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07465; Fri, 21 Apr 95 21:45:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07459; Fri, 21 Apr 95 21:45:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2WyA-00038RC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 21:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jose Reynaldo Setti Subject: Q Addressbook Message-Id: Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 17:16:39 GMT Is there a way to automatically transform elm aliases files into pine addressbooks? Or even ucb mail alias files into pine addressbooks? Thanks in advance for any information, ---jrs. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 21 22:41:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01586; Fri, 21 Apr 95 22:41:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21810; Fri, 21 Apr 95 22:36:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21804; Fri, 21 Apr 95 22:36:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2XoC-00038QC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 22:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rolan@fiona.umsmed.edu (Rolan Westbrook) Subject: Trouble using pine to send mail to remote pine Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:13:27 Message-Id: I have pine currently running on two unix boxes, one being DEC-ultrix and the other being Unixware 1.1. I can recieve mail from the ultrix pine but cannot send mail to it without getting it returned back to me. I got the PINE package from ftp.novell.de to install it on the unixware box. I have read documentation on pine refering to a pine.conf file, but I couldn't find one on my unix system. If anyone has any ideas, please let me know. Rolan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 21 22:52:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01817; Fri, 21 Apr 95 22:52:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08157; Fri, 21 Apr 95 22:46:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08151; Fri, 21 Apr 95 22:46:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2XxA-00038QC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 22:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Penio Penev Subject: Bug (ID VX23K): Pine spawns a new process for each S)ave Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-2125129881-142569293-798492590=:2936" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 19:29:50 GMT This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---2125129881-142569293-798492590=:2936 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am trying to convert a local Unix mailbox to a CYRUS IMAP one. I opened it with pine, ;)selected a)ll messages, and a)pplied s)ave to the IMAP folder. Instead of pine quickly zipping through them (257 meaasges in lees than 0.7M), I'm sitting for more than ten minutes, my disk is spinning from time to time, and the machine is doing basically nothing. I inspected what is happening and saw, that the processes, that run are mostly rsh and rshd. This is the mechanism for pre-authenticated logging, which is not enabled for this server. /It is a different story, that a search for 'authenticate' in the pine documentation does not produce a hit to tell me how to force authentication./ So pine tries to invoke rimapd, fails, connects to port 143, authenticates, saves a message, and exits. And repeats this 257 times. Serially. It took about 25 minutes. Everything is on the local mashine -- no network, no NFS, nothing. To copy 0.7M? -- Penio Penev 1-212-327-7423 ---2125129881-142569293-798492590=:2936 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; name="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = penev, full = Penio Penev home = /home/penev home_dir= /home/penev hostname= pisa localdom= pisa userdom= pisa.rockefeller.edu maildom= pisa.rockefeller.edu cur_cntxt= [] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= {pisa}user.penev msgmap: tot=0, cur=0, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=OrderedSubj inbox is mail_stream term type=iris-ansi, ttyname=/dev/ttyq5, size=40x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Penio Penev user-id : penev user-domain : pisa.rockefeller.edu smtp-server : pisa.rockefeller.edu nntp-server : rockyd.rockefeller.edu inbox-path : {pisa}user.penev incoming-folders : RFE M/RFE : Inbox M/INBOX : Diag M/Diag : ListDiag /usr/people/list/.etc/request : Lists M/Lists : returned M/returned : AUBG M/AUBG : Connectionists M/nnet : ANSForth M/ANSForth : SmartList M/SmartList : HPC M/HPC : HPCNews M/news : InterNIC M/internic : reinforce M/reinforce : PFE M/PFE : WINE M/WINE : RemotePrinting M/tpc-rp : s.c.b *{pisa:11900/nntp}soc.culture.bulgaria folder-collections : {pisa}user.penev.[] : Mail {pisa.rockefeller.edu}Mail/[] : News saves {pisa.rockefeller.edu}News/[] : Bulgaria htdocs/Bulgaria/Articles/[] : {pisa/143}[] : home ~/[] : {cyrus.andrew.cmu.edu/anonymous}archive.[] news-collections : News *{rockyd/nntp}[] : News from pisa *{pisa:11900/nntp}[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail read-message-folder : received signature-file : .pinesig address-book : .addressbook feature-list : news-read-in-newsrc-order : quit-without-confirm : show-selected-in-boldface : signature-at-bottom : compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm : delete-skips-deleted : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : save-will-advance : auto-move-read-msgs : expunge-without-confirm : news-post-without-validation : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : enable-incoming-folders : include-attachments-in-reply customized-hdrs : Reply-To: : Return-Receipt-To: saved-msg-name-rule : by-sender fcc-name-rule : by-recipient sort-key : OrderedSubj addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last editor : xemacs -nw use-only-domain-name : no printer : lp personal-print-comma : lp standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 95.4 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/home/penev/.pinerc) ======= user-domain : pisa.rockefeller.edu smtp-server : pisa.rockefeller.edu nntp-server : rockyd.rockefeller.edu inbox-path : {pisa}user.penev incoming-folders : RFE M/RFE : Inbox M/INBOX : Diag M/Diag : ListDiag /usr/people/list/.etc/request : Lists M/Lists : returned M/returned : AUBG M/AUBG : Connectionists M/nnet : ANSForth M/ANSForth : SmartList M/SmartList : HPC M/HPC : HPCNews M/news : InterNIC M/internic : reinforce M/reinforce : PFE M/PFE : WINE M/WINE : RemotePrinting M/tpc-rp : s.c.b *{pisa:11900/nntp}soc.culture.bulgaria folder-collections : {pisa}user.penev.[] : Mail {pisa.rockefeller.edu}Mail/[] : News saves {pisa.rockefeller.edu}News/[] : Bulgaria htdocs/Bulgaria/Articles/[] : {pisa/143}[] : home ~/[] : {cyrus.andrew.cmu.edu/anonymous}archive.[] news-collections : News *{rockyd/nntp}[] : News from pisa *{pisa:11900/nntp}[] read-message-folder : received signature-file : .pinesig feature-list : news-read-in-newsrc-order : quit-without-confirm : show-selected-in-boldface : signature-at-bottom : compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm : delete-skips-deleted : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : save-will-advance : auto-move-read-msgs : expunge-without-confirm : news-post-without-validation : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : enable-incoming-folders : include-attachments-in-reply customized-hdrs : Reply-To: : Return-Receipt-To: saved-msg-name-rule : by-sender fcc-name-rule : by-recipient sort-key : OrderedSubj editor : xemacs -nw printer : lp personal-print-comma : lp last-time-prune-ques : 95.4 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd enable-aggregate-command-set enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd enable-full-header-cmd enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders expunge-without-confirm include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status news-post-without-validation news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys ---2125129881-142569293-798492590=:2936-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 22 02:50:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06742; Sat, 22 Apr 95 02:50:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24966; Sat, 22 Apr 95 02:47:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24960; Sat, 22 Apr 95 02:47:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2bjx-00038QC; Sat, 22 Apr 95 02:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Guy BRAND Subject: Pine and VMS paths Message-Id: Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 00:43:09 GMT References: In-Reply-To: <1995Apr20.125547.24610@news.csuohio.edu> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Hi, Could someone tell me how to specify the inbox path (IMAP syntax) so that Pine read the a mailbox I have on a VMS system ? I tried the usual {host.domain}inbox string but it doesn't work. Thanks for help GB ___ ___ Guy BRAND - Consultant svp@chimie - ==== / |\/ |\ ____________________________________ =---==== / |/ || Work : Guy.Brand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr =-----==== / /| /| || Home : gizmo@fondation.u-strasbg.fr ==---===== /_/ |__/ |_|| ======== \_\/\__\/\_\|oins on pense, plus on parle (MONTESQUIEU). ==== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 22 04:11:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08936; Sat, 22 Apr 95 04:11:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11764; Sat, 22 Apr 95 04:07:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11758; Sat, 22 Apr 95 04:07:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2cxs-00038QC; Sat, 22 Apr 95 04:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jwestall@wpi.WPI.EDU (Jeffrey Westall) Subject: Moderator needs help ... Message-Id: <3n5rh6$ic6@bigboote.WPI.EDU> Date: 20 Apr 1995 14:36:22 GMT I am the moderator of a newsgroup (wpi.massacademy) and I want to use pine to post other peoples articles to the newsgroup. I have already added the needed Approved: header, but now everything I post is from me instead of from the original poster, as could be done using mail and inews. I tried adding the From: header, but Pine says I can't change the from header. Is there any way to get pine to let me change this header, or any way to make the correct poster show in the newsgroup? Thanks! Jeffrey Westall jwestall@wpi.wpi.edu -- _______________________________________________________________________________ wpi.massacad is moderated by Jeffrey Westall. To post articles, simply post them to wpi.massacad and they will be automatically forwarded. All articles are posted except those of a slanderous nature. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 22 04:38:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09386; Sat, 22 Apr 95 04:38:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26484; Sat, 22 Apr 95 04:32:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26478; Sat, 22 Apr 95 04:32:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2dLh-00038QC; Sat, 22 Apr 95 04:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maryb@eskimo.com (Mary Brown) Subject: Re: How to get Receipt? Message-Id: References: <9504211037.AA12147@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 00:54:19 GMT In article <9504211037.AA12147@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it>, lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) wrote: > If a gateway is involved then it might be appropriate to ask for > a return receipt, I've never done it myself but I know newer Pine > versions allow to do it in the custom header. I just blundered in here, and so don't know if this has already been discussed, but how do you request a receipt in the customer header? That's about the only thing I don't like about Pine .... Thanks. -- Mary D. Brown maryb@eskimo.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 22 05:41:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10678; Sat, 22 Apr 95 05:41:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12571; Sat, 22 Apr 95 05:37:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12565; Sat, 22 Apr 95 05:37:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2eOD-00038QC; Sat, 22 Apr 95 05:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: PC-Pine connecting to UNIX Pine Message-Id: <17388C392S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 12:54:25 GMT In article knepperm@cuug.ab.ca (Kneppers Marc) writes: >We have a UNIX machine with an ethernet connection. The PC's are on a >NOVELL network hooked into the Ethernet as well. All this is local - no >internet access yet, but the UNIX box has an IP address and the NOVELL >file server also has an IP address as well as the communication server. {much useful detail omitted} As I understand it, there are basically two ways you can handle this kind of situation. You either go for a Novell-based mail system within the PCs, with a gateway to interwork with the Internet (Pegasus?), or you run a purely IP (Internet) based email system on the PCs. It looks as if you are following the latter plan. This factors Novell application levels out of your email equation - but presumably you'll still be running their network stack. I'm not going to tell you that this is a good or bad way to proceed - it depends on circumstances - in my area we go for the IP-based solution too, because we are mainly interested in Internet mail, but I know that other groups swear by Pegasus. >PC-Pine and it is working ... but without accessing the mailboxes on the >UNIX machine. (I get a message like '[host]: connection refused') Assuming your network configuration is otherwise correct, this is telling you that your unix system is not running an IMAPD server (IMAP protocol daemon). As you say you're the unix guy, this would seem to be your job ;-) Look for the IMAPD in the PINE distribution. >How does the WinSock stuff fit into this as well? Winsock is a well defined internal interface for IP network transport on the PC. Since you say you run Novell, you presuably run an appropriate protocol stack already - look for its particular Winsock interface routine. An alternative is to look for its packet-driver interface (ODIPKT if you presently run an ODI-based stack) and run someone else's packet-driver-to-winsock software (Tattam's Trumpet Winsock has a good reputation - shareware). Bear in mind the "network layer cake model" - you just need the correctly defined interface at each layer of the network cake. alt.winsock is the group for discussing Winsock (but beware - many usenauts on that group have not yet understood that Winsock is an interface specification - they tend to think that the particular implementation of Winsock that they are using is THE winsock, and don't bother to tell us what it is). There's also an IBM-PC IP protocols FAQ that exhibits various baroque combinations of networking stacks that different people use successfully for mixing and matching ODI, NDIS, packet driver and/or Winsock software interfaces. It should be fairly easy to locate this FAQ. >The possible connection between the PC's and UNIX promises to be >*extremely* useful and popular with the people around here. Well they can always TELNET to the unix system, log on, and run PINE there, can't they, until you've got your act together... good luck. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 22 05:51:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10821; Sat, 22 Apr 95 05:51:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27370; Sat, 22 Apr 95 05:47:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27364; Sat, 22 Apr 95 05:47:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2eaJ-00038TC; Sat, 22 Apr 95 05:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: reichera@itsi.disa.mil (Reston) Subject: Re: .pinerc and reply address Date: 20 Apr 1995 09:31:04 -0400 Message-Id: <3n5nmo$de6@jcdbs.itsi.disa.mil> References: <3n4a4o$g59@pangea.ohionet.org> In .pinerc, add "Reply-To: " as a custom header. Make sure you have full headers enabled. It will only show up when you select Rich Headers (^R). Phrakr Trakr (kstewart@sol.ashland.edu) wrote: : I was wondering if there is anyway of specifying the reply address in my : .pinerc. OR is there even a way of doing this at all??? : Thanx in advance for the replies! : -- : ~\\|//~ : -(o o)- : +------------------+-------oOOOo--(_)--oOOOo-------+---------------------+ : | K. Scott Stewart | Email: stew@pobox.com | Ashland University | : | aka. STEW | Finger: stew@pobox.com | AU Box #1622 | : | aka. Netiquette | | Ashland, OH 44805 | : +------------------+-------------------------------+---------------------+ : \,`/ / | URL: http://www.ashland.edu/~kstewart | : _).. `_ +-----------------------------------------------------+ : ( __ -\ | I have fallen in love with PERL:I don't mean Minnie | : '`. +-----------------------------------------------------+ : ( \>_-_, : _||_ ~-/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 22 08:39:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13633; Sat, 22 Apr 95 08:39:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14194; Sat, 22 Apr 95 08:34:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14188; Sat, 22 Apr 95 08:34:07 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10739; Sat, 22 Apr 95 08:34:03 -0700 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 08:33:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Reston Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: .pinerc and reply address In-Reply-To: <3n5nmo$de6@jcdbs.itsi.disa.mil> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Or unless you also put that header in the default-composer-hdrs list... -teg On 20 Apr 1995, Reston wrote: > In .pinerc, add "Reply-To: " as a custom header. Make sure you have full > headers enabled. It will only show up when you select Rich Headers (^R). > > > Phrakr Trakr (kstewart@sol.ashland.edu) wrote: > : I was wondering if there is anyway of specifying the reply address in my > : .pinerc. OR is there even a way of doing this at all??? > > : Thanx in advance for the replies! > > : -- > : ~\\|//~ > : -(o o)- > : +------------------+-------oOOOo--(_)--oOOOo-------+---------------------+ > : | K. Scott Stewart | Email: stew@pobox.com | Ashland University | > : | aka. STEW | Finger: stew@pobox.com | AU Box #1622 | > : | aka. Netiquette | | Ashland, OH 44805 | > : +------------------+-------------------------------+---------------------+ > : \,`/ / | URL: http://www.ashland.edu/~kstewart | > : _).. `_ +-----------------------------------------------------+ > : ( __ -\ | I have fallen in love with PERL:I don't mean Minnie | > : '`. +-----------------------------------------------------+ > : ( \>_-_, > : _||_ ~-/ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 22 10:21:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15872; Sat, 22 Apr 95 10:21:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00896; Sat, 22 Apr 95 10:17:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00890; Sat, 22 Apr 95 10:17:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2imK-00038RC; Sat, 22 Apr 95 10:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: c9524@rrzc2.rz.uni-regensburg.de (Ulrich Windl) Subject: long attachments: split? Date: 19 Apr 1995 07:30:05 GMT Message-Id: Are long attachments (MIME attachments) split if they exceed a certain amount of bytes. -- Ulrich Windl Klinikum der Universitaet Regensburg, Rechenzentrum DV-med Franz-Josef-Strauss-Allee 11 D-93042 Regensburg, Germany %%[PGP 2.3a/2.6ui Public Key 0x[e8]43660d on at least one key server]%% From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 22 10:23:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15963; Sat, 22 Apr 95 10:23:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15310; Sat, 22 Apr 95 10:17:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15304; Sat, 22 Apr 95 10:17:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2ilu-00038QC; Sat, 22 Apr 95 10:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: c9524@rrzc2.rz.uni-regensburg.de (Ulrich Windl) Subject: Re: 8bit vs QP (Re: No MIME) Date: 19 Apr 1995 07:27:59 GMT Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: mhotti@paju.oulu.fi's message of 14 Apr 1995 05:49:13 -0700 In an elder PINE you could use charset = ASCII, and PINE would not touch the 8-bit characters. Only if you use ISO Latin-1 Pine converts characters. (Non-official answer) -- Ulrich Windl Klinikum der Universitaet Regensburg, Rechenzentrum DV-med Franz-Josef-Strauss-Allee 11 D-93042 Regensburg, Germany %%[PGP 2.3a/2.6ui Public Key 0x[e8]43660d on at least one key server]%% From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 22 13:28:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20044; Sat, 22 Apr 95 13:28:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17420; Sat, 22 Apr 95 13:23:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17414; Sat, 22 Apr 95 13:23:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2lgj-00038QC; Sat, 22 Apr 95 13:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mark@charm.net (Mark Pelletier) Subject: wordperfect (help!) Date: 21 Apr 1995 10:06:14 -0400 Message-Id: I've recently been tasked with installing pine, and I've gotten everything to work fine EXCEPT that it doesn't handle wordperfect 5.1 attachments. from what I've read, this should be resolvable w/ a mailcap entry, but I'll be darned if I can do it. Help? -- women and men (both dong and ding) | Three quarks for Muster Mark! summer autumn winter spring | Mark Pelletier reaped their sowings and went their came | mark@charm.net sun moon stars rain | Shantih, shantih, shantih! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 22 14:19:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21008; Sat, 22 Apr 95 14:19:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03962; Sat, 22 Apr 95 14:14:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03956; Sat, 22 Apr 95 14:14:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2mTB-00038QC; Sat, 22 Apr 95 14:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: map004@thunder (M.Chaisi) Subject: Re: PICO composer Date: 21 Apr 1995 16:19:44 GMT Message-Id: <3n8lv0$gi0@geriatrix.bangor.ac.uk> References: <3mvu0c$qro@news.primenet.com> Bob Brody (brody@primenet.com) wrote: : Using Pine's PICO editor as opposed to configuring for one's choice of : editor, I'm curious if there are keys for jumping to the end of the : current document or to the beginning. I can find at best only keys : for scrolling one screen at a time, forward or backward. Nothing about : going to the end/beginning of the document so I was wondering if that : exists. : bob : brody@primenet.com Yes it exists! ^W for *search*, the submenu that follows with the prompt for the string to search has ^Y for first line and ^V for last line. i.e. ^W followed by ^Y takes you to first line of the document ^W followed by ^V takes you to last line of the document Go and try that mate! All the best .... -- ----_________________________________________________________________ Mosa Chaisi (Mr.) 'phones School of Mathematics Home : 01248 354098 flat2 University of Wales,Dean Str., Office : 351151 x 2497 Bangor,Wales,LL57 1UT. Int'national: +44 1248 number ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 22 19:41:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26837; Sat, 22 Apr 95 19:41:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07991; Sat, 22 Apr 95 19:37:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07985; Sat, 22 Apr 95 19:37:24 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17261; Sat, 22 Apr 95 19:37:12 -0700 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 19:37:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Ulrich Windl Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: 8bit vs QP (Re: No MIME) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 19 Apr 1995, Ulrich Windl wrote: > In an elder PINE you could use charset = ASCII, and PINE would not touch the > 8-bit characters. Only if you use ISO Latin-1 Pine converts characters. > > (Non-official answer) Official answer: Pine is based on, and tries hard to adhere to, Internet mail standards. Current Internet mail standards do not permit sending unencoded 8bit characters except when an 8bit connection has been negotiated via ESMTP. Unfortunately, not eveyone agrees with the current Internet standards. There are areas in the world where it is considered acceptable to violate the standards and "just send 8" even without a negotiated 8bit connection. Regrettably, a few have even created "outlaw" versions of Pine that violate the standard, but no official version of Pine has ever done so. (At least not intentionally.) Version 3.92 will support negotiated 8bit connections via ESMTP's 8BITMIME construct. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 22 21:08:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28677; Sat, 22 Apr 95 21:08:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22078; Sat, 22 Apr 95 21:05:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22070; Sat, 22 Apr 95 21:05:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2sso-00038QC; Sat, 22 Apr 95 21:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tompkins@earth.cnct.com (tompkins) Subject: Re: Macro or shortcuts needed Date: 21 Apr 1995 19:43:01 GMT Message-Id: <3n91s5$j8l@mars.cnct.com> References: David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : Macros are on our (infinitely long) to-do list............. Hi, Let me also put in a vote for macros or a scripting capability or the like. It would be great for e.g., sorting the mail when you subscribe to a number of listservs. I could put all my select, apply and save or export commands in one macro. Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 22 22:00:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29649; Sat, 22 Apr 95 22:00:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09646; Sat, 22 Apr 95 21:57:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09640; Sat, 22 Apr 95 21:57:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2td5-00038RC; Sat, 22 Apr 95 21:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jenshat@ncook.k12.il.us (Shattuck) Subject: Help"Folder Format Invalidated (Consult an expert), aborted" Date: 22 Apr 1995 17:06:53 GMT Message-Id: <3nbd3d$gmc@mac95.ncook.k12.il.us> I am trying to remain calm! When I logged on to my service I received a messaged stating that I had mail. I knew I had 8 or 9 messages that I hadn't gotten to reading so I went to Pine to check them out. Well, According the Pine I had 0 messages in my inbox. Curious, I opened my inbox folder and got the message "Folder format invalidated (consult an expert), aborted" YIKES!!! I checked in my Saved Mail folder and those messages were fine. Well, I went back to my main menu because I have an option to fix my corrupted mail box. I read the directions and unless I read it wrong, I have to delete each message line by line. Is that right? Most of my messeages are mailing list digests & are pretty lengthy. I decided it was expert consultation time. And here I am. Can anyone help me? One more thing that may or may not help. I tried to open my mail through Elm (which I usually never bother with) and I can't even open that. I get the message "Folder is corrupt!! I can't read it!!" I'm on my knees begging for assistance here. Thank you so much for helping!!!! p.s. - Don't send e-mail for obvious reasons :) -- /\___/\ Jennifer Shattuck / o o \ jenshat@icebox.ncook.k12.il.us ( == * == ) "Happiness is sitting in a box" ~ - Peanuts From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 22 22:16:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29944; Sat, 22 Apr 95 22:16:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22734; Sat, 22 Apr 95 22:11:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22728; Sat, 22 Apr 95 22:11:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2ttV-00038RC; Sat, 22 Apr 95 22:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tarchon@imap2.asu.edu Subject: Re: 8bit vs QP (Re: No MIME) Date: 21 Apr 1995 22:35:56 GMT Message-Id: <3n9c0c$l7e@news.asu.edu> References: Marko Hotti (mhotti@paju.oulu.fi) wrote: : On Mon, 10 Apr 1995, Arthur Teschler wrote: : > If the 8th bit is delivered correct and not cut off by some stupid gatewa= : ys, : > there is no need to put an ordinary ISO-8859-X text into 'quoted-printabl= : e'. : > I'd like to turn that off, too. : Same here. MIME Quoted-Printable causes lots of problems here in Finland,= : =20 : too. Pine is an excellent and versatile program but has caused lots of=20 : irritation here because of the =3DE4 etc. characters that get in the messag= : es. : 8bit characters are handled properly but QP is not. : > I can see the use of m[un]pack when sending pics, sound-files or similar, : > but an ordinary letter containing Umlauts should not end up in a rather : > unreadable thing with =3D made into =3D3D, end-of-lines looking like =3D2= : 0, lines : > broken up at different positions than I intended or other ugly things. : I share this opinion. The most serious computing professionals don't like : Pine at all because it just can't handle our special letters (=E4=F6=E5=DF = : etc)=20 : in a way that is compatible with rest of our software. Ditto. This may be the single most annoying feature of pine. I think the number one item on my wish list for all data transfer software is the "leave my data alone!" option. Something that tells the program not to act so smart and to let me decide how I want to transfer the data when I want. These Q-P codes are causing no end to consternation on many listservs. First you have to tell people that their mail is getting converted, which they find hard to accept, and then they blame the receiver. Finally they accept that their wonderful Pine is the source. And then we have to figure out what causes it! Please fix this in 3.92! I have, BTW, seen a patch for this on the Pine Web page (really FTP) ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/tech-notes.txt but I can't install it so I don't know how good it is. I've incidentally had trouble forcing our 3.91 Unix pine at ASU to do it, which makes actually figuring out how others can avoid it tough. Aren't ^N, ^O, and ESC supposed to force it to use Q-P? Or is it only 8-bit chars or what? The documentation isn't particularly clear about it. Ben B. bucknerenuxsa.eas.asu.edu And people wonder why I still use elm. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 22 22:20:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00157; Sat, 22 Apr 95 22:20:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09914; Sat, 22 Apr 95 22:16:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09908; Sat, 22 Apr 95 22:16:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s2tvy-00038SC; Sat, 22 Apr 95 22:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) Subject: deleting in PICO Date: 22 Apr 1995 22:26:52 GMT Message-Id: <3nbvrc$d14@news4.primenet.com> When pressing the Del key (and IBM/DOS computer) while in PICO, the character immediately before the cursor is deleted. Is there a configuration setting that would have it delete the character where the cursor sits rather than the character before it? bob brody@primenet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 22 23:41:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01408; Sat, 22 Apr 95 23:41:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23485; Sat, 22 Apr 95 23:39:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23479; Sat, 22 Apr 95 23:39:01 -0700 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA29782; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 02:39:21 +0500 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 02:39:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip Old X-Sender: fold@mail To: Manfred Sever Cc: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu, mse@wolverine.utias.utoronto.ca Subject: Re: problems with solaris In-Reply-To: <199504181943.PAA21734@wolverine.utias.utoronto.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 699 On Tue, 18 Apr 1995, Manfred Sever wrote: > I hope that some of you can help me. I'm having trouble building > Pine for a Sun Sparc 20 running Solaris 2.4. Had the same problem here, so gave it up and FTPd the precompiled binaries for Solaris from cac.washington.com. It works just fine, although I had to create a couple of non-standard (for Solaris) directories to match the compilation. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 23 04:50:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08290; Sun, 23 Apr 95 04:50:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26574; Sun, 23 Apr 95 04:47:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26568; Sun, 23 Apr 95 04:47:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s302T-00038SC; Sun, 23 Apr 95 04:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: millsbn@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca (Bruce Mills) Subject: Random .sig generator Date: 20 Apr 1995 10:53:51 -0400 Message-Id: <3n5shv$1su@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA> OK, so I have two stoopid questions today... Can anyone give me an idea how to set up a random sig generator, that will insert spiffy quotations in your signature? Just wondering, Bruce From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 23 08:39:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12198; Sun, 23 Apr 95 08:39:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17490; Sun, 23 Apr 95 08:36:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17484; Sun, 23 Apr 95 08:36:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s33eq-00038QC; Sun, 23 Apr 95 08:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: apharris@burrito.onShore.com (A. P. Harris) Subject: Re: Mailbox format for /usr/spool/mail/???????? Date: 22 Apr 1995 16:10:47 -0500 Message-Id: <3nbrcn$2q8@burrito.onShore.com> References: <3n33qa$jf0@news3.digex.net> [Paul Robinson ] >On a unix system, I believe the standard mailbox name for each user is as >specified above, with ? replaced by the user's login name. I'd like to >know if there is a standard document describing how those mailbox files >are defined so I can read Unix mailboxes on a PC. The standard mailbox format is pretty simple. It's named as you described, /usr/spool/mail/apharris in my case. Messages are separated by a line like >From mmwang@mv.us.adobe.com Mon Feb 6 03:04:25 CST 1995 There should be a blank line before the 'From ' line. Anyhow, it's the 'From ' which is critical, *not* 'From:'. I'm not sure if there's an rfc describing mailbox formats. You might try some unix mail newsgroups for more info, or the unix mail faqs. -- .....A. P. Harris...apharris@onShore.com... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 23 08:47:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12400; Sun, 23 Apr 95 08:47:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28633; Sun, 23 Apr 95 08:43:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28627; Sun, 23 Apr 95 08:43:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s33lr-00038QC; Sun, 23 Apr 95 08:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: key word association? Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 18:32:30 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hello. This capability will be in a future version of Pine. It is waiting on the functional development of certain other technology which Pine is layered upon. When implemented, the keywords capability will be quite a bit more general and functional than in MM. The Pine team is quite aware of the functionality of MM, and many of the capabilities of MM (although not its user interface) influenced Pine and especially its underlying mail handling engine. I was the primary developer of the original MM on the DEC-20 for over a decade. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" (est.) On Wed, 19 Apr 1995, Carl Reimann wrote: > I recently abandoned the Columbia Mail Manager in favor of Pine. > I had originally made the opposite switch to get the benefits of > MM's bulk searching and message manipulation features; however, > Pine has surpassed MM in important respects. > > One MM feature I miss is the ability to set a keyword for a message > which can then be used for instant searching and related manipulation. > I gather there is no way Pine can associate a keyword with a message. > > Carl > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 23 08:55:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12626; Sun, 23 Apr 95 08:55:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17750; Sun, 23 Apr 95 08:51:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17742; Sun, 23 Apr 95 08:51:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s33rn-00038QC; Sun, 23 Apr 95 08:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Guozhong Zhou Subject: Re: Utility to read MIME-encoded message? Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 17:08:40 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: References: <3lvcsp$rv@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> <3m0a05$89r@hustle.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I am also interested in how to read MIME-encoded message using pine. Guozhong Zhou zhou@tom.fe.up.pt On Thu, 6 Apr 1995, Allen Roberts wrote: > On 6 Apr 1995, Rahul Dhesi wrote: > > > > > Pine itself will let you extract base64-encoded files. But if for some > > reason you don't have pine available at this time, the program > > 'metamail' will let you decode most MIME formats. Browse through > > ftp://thumper.bellcore.com:/pub/nsb/ or just download: > > > > ftp://thumper.bellcore.com:/pub/nsb/mm2.7.tar.Z > > > > Ok if pine does this, then the next question would be > how?? WHat command?? I am very new to pine. In fact I just got it > yesterday just so that I could read a MIME encoded letter I recieved. > Problem is....I still don't know how to use pine to read the "MIME" > letter. Any help would be greatly appreciated!! THanks in advance. > > Allen > > allen@elmail.cc.purdue.edu > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 23 09:31:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13331; Sun, 23 Apr 95 09:31:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29056; Sun, 23 Apr 95 09:28:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29050; Sun, 23 Apr 95 09:28:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s34T0-00038QC; Sun, 23 Apr 95 09:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: al@lafn.org (Al Cohan) Subject: WANTED: Pico 2.5 doc's? Message-Id: <1995Apr17.203450.15670@lafn.org> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 20:34:50 GMT The system I use has recently upgraded to PICO 2.5. Are their any specs or a manual or config.file available for PICO? What has been added to this upgrade? Would appreciate any help. Al Cohan -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 23 13:04:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17583; Sun, 23 Apr 95 13:04:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20630; Sun, 23 Apr 95 12:52:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20624; Sun, 23 Apr 95 12:52:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s37ct-00038ZC; Sun, 23 Apr 95 12:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Carl Reimann Subject: Re: key word association? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 05:14:56 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hello. > > This capability will be in a future version of Pine. It is waiting on the > functional development of certain other technology which Pine is layered > upon. When implemented, the keywords capability will be quite a bit more > general and functional than in MM. > > The Pine team is quite aware of the functionality of MM, and many of the > capabilities of MM (although not its user interface) influenced Pine and > especially its underlying mail handling engine. I was the primary > developer of the original MM on the DEC-20 for over a decade. > > -- Mark -- > > DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot > FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" (est.) > > On Wed, 19 Apr 1995, Carl Reimann wrote: > > > I recently abandoned the Columbia Mail Manager in favor of Pine. > > I had originally made the opposite switch to get the benefits of > > MM's bulk searching and message manipulation features; however, > > Pine has surpassed MM in important respects. > > > > One MM feature I miss is the ability to set a keyword for a message > > which can then be used for instant searching and related manipulation. > > I gather there is no way Pine can associate a keyword with a message. > > > > Carl > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 23 17:22:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22501; Sun, 23 Apr 95 17:22:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03747; Sun, 23 Apr 95 17:18:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03741; Sun, 23 Apr 95 17:18:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s3BmD-00038SC; Sun, 23 Apr 95 17:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: messina@engin.umich.edu (Matt Messina) Subject: Re: deleting in PICO Date: 23 Apr 1995 21:51:07 GMT Message-Id: <3nei4b$h3k@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> References: <3nbvrc$d14@news4.primenet.com> Bob Brody wrote: >When pressing the Del key (and IBM/DOS computer) while in PICO, the >character immediately before the cursor is deleted. Is there a >configuration setting that would have it delete the character where the >cursor sits rather than the character before it? Pico treats both Delete and Backspace as "backward-delete-char." To "delete-char," use ^D. -- Matt Messina messina@umich.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 23 17:42:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22905; Sun, 23 Apr 95 17:42:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24201; Sun, 23 Apr 95 17:38:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24195; Sun, 23 Apr 95 17:38:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s3C4N-00038QC; Sun, 23 Apr 95 17:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ernst@fritz.snafu.de (Ernst Kloecker) Subject: Re: "xbtoa Begin" string?... Message-Id: References: <3n35m7$jjq@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 17:06:13 GMT In <3n35m7$jjq@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> ngolego@uoguelph.ca (Nickolay V Golego) writes: >I received the message in Pmail which looks like: >xbtoa Begin >[...] >xbtoa End [...] >Could anyone give me a hint how to decode and read it? Usual uudecode >didn't work on it. You need atob and btoa, a pair of tools like uudecode/uuencode, only with a better compression rate. Should be available on the major FTP archives. -- -------------------------------------------- Ernst Kloecker ernst@fritz.snafu.de -------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 23 21:31:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27948; Sun, 23 Apr 95 21:31:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06470; Sun, 23 Apr 95 21:26:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06464; Sun, 23 Apr 95 21:26:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s3Faz-00038QC; Sun, 23 Apr 95 21:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsv@acpub.duke.edu (Jeffrey Vipperman) Subject: Pine Panic: Recieved Abort Signal (Help) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 12:10:54 Message-Id: Hi, I've gotten this error using Pine 3.89 and Pine 3.91 on a Sun SPARC 2 running SunOS 4.1.3_u1. It seems to come after the "about_to_end_tty_driver". I've included the end of the .pine-crash in this file below. I reported it to U. of Washington already. Thanks for any help in advance, Jeff ---------------------- End of .pine-crash ----------------------------------- Sorting by Arrival IMAP 11:58 4/19 mm_log babble: Find of mailbox outside context: /home/psych/jeffv/.pine-interrupted-mail - mailcap_free - ---- MAIN_MENU_SCREEN ---- === folder_screen called ==== - mailcap_free - ---- FOLDER SCREEN ---- About to open folder "INBOX" inbox: "INBOX" ---- MAIL INDEX ---- ---- INDEX MANAGER ---- ----- MAIL VIEW ----- done. about to end_tty_driver Pine Panic: Received abort signal save_debug_on_crash: Version 3.91: debug level 2 : Wed Apr 19 11:58:53 1995 Attempting to save debug file to /home/psych/jeffv/.pine-crash From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 23 23:29:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00911; Sun, 23 Apr 95 23:29:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28784; Sun, 23 Apr 95 23:23:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28778; Sun, 23 Apr 95 23:23:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s3HVB-00038QC; Sun, 23 Apr 95 23:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: messina@engin.umich.edu (Matt Messina) Subject: Pico limitations Date: 23 Apr 1995 21:46:42 GMT Message-Id: <3nehs2$h23@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> I realize that Pico is not the most robust editor ever written, nor is it intended to be. But I like it anyway. It's almost as fast as vi and much easier to use. Inability to search for regexps is not a problem; it's just a missing feature. But there are two problems with the editor that might screw up people's files. 1) The "long lines wrapped" problem. When Pico reads in a file, if there are lines longer than X, then the lines are split. 2) Out of memory. If there is not enough memory, Pico will load the file as much as it can, but will leave off the lines at the end that it doesn't have room for. (I have only observed this once, on a very heavily loaded machine with a 200K file.) Are there any plans to fix these? A command line option that would sacrifice speed for arbitrary line length might be a good idea. And the truncating of a file is unacceptable. If there isn't enough room, it should just say, "Sorry, I can't load the whole file." This is on Pico 2.5 -- Matt Messina messina@umich.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 24 03:25:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06429; Mon, 24 Apr 95 03:25:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10107; Mon, 24 Apr 95 03:03:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from andromeda.cp.dias.ie by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10101; Mon, 24 Apr 95 03:03:50 -0700 Received: from cp.dias.ie by andromeda.cp.dias.ie with SMTP (PP) id <02223-0@andromeda.cp.dias.ie>; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 11:03:15 +0100 Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 11:03:13 +0100 (BST) From: Wai Ming Tai X-Sender: wai@andromeda To: Chip Old Cc: Manfred Sever , Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: problems with solaris In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 23 Apr 1995, Chip Old wrote: > On Tue, 18 Apr 1995, Manfred Sever wrote: > > > I hope that some of you can help me. I'm having trouble building > > Pine for a Sun Sparc 20 running Solaris 2.4. The change I have made is in file c-clients/osdep.h comment out the line: #include #include I use gcc 2.6.3 and it complains about the two lines. I use the sv4 definition. Hope that help. I might have changed one or two other thing which I have forgotten. Regards, Wai. ====================================================================== Mr. Wai-Ming Tai | E-mail: School of Cosmic Physics, | Internet: wai@cp.dias.ie The Dublin Institute for Advanced Studies, | SPAN: 29522::WAI 5 Merrion Square, Dublin 2. | IRELAND | Tel: +353-1-6621333 FAX: +353-1-6621477 | ====================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 24 03:33:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06634; Mon, 24 Apr 95 03:33:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10263; Mon, 24 Apr 95 03:15:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10257; Mon, 24 Apr 95 03:15:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s3L7l-00038QC; Mon, 24 Apr 95 03:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rene Grothmann Subject: Composer crashes Pine Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:17:42 +0200 (DFT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am still having occasional long delays and sometimes even crashes when composing a message. Maybe someon has had the same problem and found a solution. I am using Pine 3.90 on a IBM AIX 3.1. Rene From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 24 06:15:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10934; Mon, 24 Apr 95 06:15:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03724; Mon, 24 Apr 95 05:24:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03718; Mon, 24 Apr 95 05:24:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s3N8n-00038QC; Mon, 24 Apr 95 05:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steve Schow Subject: HELP: how to pipe to command Date: 19 Apr 1995 17:44:56 GMT Message-Id: <3n3i6o$kkt@news1.svc> I have an alias defined in my addressbook that I want to be able to send the mail to a UNIX command rather than an address. In mailtool, I can simply compose an email message and send it to | and it will send the text of the email message to the command stdin instead of to a person. With pine, whenever I try to use the |, it appends my domain name on the end to look like this |@corp.portal.com Which of course does not work. Can anyone help me? Please email me directly. Thanks in advance sjs@corp.portal.com  From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 24 06:53:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11812; Mon, 24 Apr 95 06:53:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04705; Mon, 24 Apr 95 06:41:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from wolverine.utias.utoronto.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04699; Mon, 24 Apr 95 06:40:56 -0700 Received: from localhost (mse@localhost) by wolverine.utias.utoronto.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id JAA12158; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 09:47:57 -0400 Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 09:47:57 -0400 From: Manfred Sever Message-Id: <199504241347.JAA12158@wolverine.utias.utoronto.ca> To: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Subject: RE: Building Pine under Solaris 2.4 Cc: mse@wolverine.utias.utoronto.ca Well, I finally got Pine to compile and installed on a Sparc 20 running Solaris 2.4 Here is what I did: 1.) First I applied a patch (pine3.91.tar), but this didn't seem to make a difference. I still got the same compile errors. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2.) I then added a definition: `-Dconst' to CFLAGS, in `makefile.sol' BUT this did not work, so I took it out again. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 3.) I then made the following modifications to `./pine/makefile.sol': CC=cc LDCC=cc I also made the following modifications to `./pine/osdep/os-sv4.h': #define ANSI /*#define const */ /*#define signal(a,b) sigset(a, b) */ /*extern void (*sigset())(); */ #define QSType void /*#define QSType char */ With these definitions in `makefile.sol', and the above uncommented and commented-out definitions in `os-sv4.h', Pine built with only a few warning messages about ANSI-C compatibility. (I also added the following compiler options to the native cc Sun compiler: -fast -xcg92 -KPIC -Xa but this shouldn't matter.) Compiling with gcc didn't work at all, (even with the patch described in `1.)' above). In fact, gcc died a terrible death on `pico'. I have the Cygnus gcc compiler installed here. So its DONE and Pine seems to work fine with no modifications other than to the `makefile.sol' and `os-sv4.h' files. Special thanks to: David Drum, David L Miller, Chip Old, and Wai Ming Tai for their responses. Manfred. =============================================================================== Manfred D. M. Sever | | Space Robotics Group, | E-mail: mse@sdr.utias.utoronto.ca University of Toronto | Tel.: (416) 667-7744 (Desk) Institute for Aerospace Studies | (416) 667-7731 (Computer Room) 4925 Dufferin Street | (416) 667-7722 (Lab) Downsview, ON CANADA | Fax: (416) 667-7799 M3H 5T6 | =============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 24 06:55:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11852; Mon, 24 Apr 95 06:55:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12541; Mon, 24 Apr 95 06:34:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12535; Mon, 24 Apr 95 06:34:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s3ODX-00038QC; Mon, 24 Apr 95 06:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edwin@cs.ruu.nl (Edwin Kremer) Subject: Re: Q Addressbook Date: 24 Apr 1995 12:09:17 GMT Message-Id: <3ng4dd$70q@krant.cs.ruu.nl> References: In Jose Reynaldo Setti writes: | Is there a way to automatically transform elm aliases | files into pine addressbooks? Well, I did this quicky one some time ago. It works for me and it has been helpful to others. It's free. Don't make money of it :-) You do need Perl, however. best regards, --[ Edwin ]-- -- Edwin H. Kremer, systems- and network administrator. Dept. of Computer Science, Utrecht University, The Netherlands [WHOIS: ehk3] ----------------------- http://www.cs.ruu.nl/~edwin --------------------------- #!/bin/sh # This is a shell archive (shar 3.32) # made 10/07/1994 22:12 UTC by edwin@cs.ruu.nl # # existing files WILL be overwritten # # This shar contains: # length mode name # ------ ---------- ------------------------------------------ # 3564 -rwxr-xr-x elm2pine # if touch 2>&1 | fgrep 'amc' > /dev/null then TOUCH=touch else TOUCH=true fi # ============= elm2pine ============== echo "x - extracting elm2pine (Text)" sed 's/^X//' << 'SHAR_EOF' > elm2pine && X#!/net/bin/perl X#--------------------------------------------------------------------------- X# elm2pine - convert Elm-2.4 aliases file to Pine 3.90 format X# (writes result to standard-output) X# X# 1.0 EHK 02-Sep-94 from scratch X# 1.1 EHK 03-Sep-94 fix continuation-line parsing bug, resulting in X# duplicate partial distribution-lists. Actually, I X# got the documentation wrong at first glance, so this X# is more of a major rewrite than just a bug fix... X#--------------------------------------------------------------------------- X X$P = 'elm2pine' ; X X$home = $ENV{'HOME'} || die "Can't find your HOME directory: $!" ; X$elm = "$home/.elm/aliases.text" ; X Xopen(ELM, "< $elm") || die "You don't have Elm aliases in your ~/.elm directory: $!" ; X X#--------------------------------------------------------------------------- X# Pass 1 : read the entire alias file in core; do some minimal processing X#--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Xprint STDERR "$P: Pass 1 -- reading aliases '$elm'...\n" ; Xwhile ( ) { X chop ; X next if ( /^$/ || /^#/ ) ; # skip comment and blank lines X X # delete blanks around the Elm aliases field-seperator '=' X # and around the Elm-specials ',' and ';' X s/\s*([=,;])\s*/\1/g ; X X # if we have leading blanks, this must be a continuation line X if ( /^[\t\s]/ ) { X # which we can only have if we've seen a nickname already X if ( ! defined($nickname) ) { X print STDERR "$P: ERROR: continuation line without prefix ignored: '$_' \n" ; X next ; X } X X s/^\s+// ; # get rid of the leading blanks X $alias{$nickname} .= "$_" ; X $clines++ ; X } X else { X if ( $clines ) { X print STDERR "$P: [OK] $clines continuation-line(s) joined.\n" ; X $clines = 0 ; X } X undef($nickname); X ($nickname, $fullname, $address) = split(/=/) ; X $fullname = "*none-given*" if ( $fullname eq '' ) ; X X # Elm has multiple-nicknames, so we have to duplicated X # them for Pine to maintain the same information X @nnames = split(/,/, $nickname) ; X if ( $#nnames > 0 ) { X $multi_aliases = $#nnames + 1 ; X print STDERR "$P: [OK] $multi_aliases multiple-aliases duplicated.\n" ; X } X foreach $nname ( @nnames ) { X $alias{$nname} = "$fullname#$address" ; X } X } X} Xclose(ELM) ; X X#--------------------------------------------------------------------------- X# Pass 2 : convert to Pine format. Add default Fcc-field, optional comment X# and apply Pine semantics to Elm-special chars ';' and ',' X#--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Xprint STDERR "$P: Pass 2 -- converting Elm aliases to Pine format...\n" ; X$aliasc = 0 ; Xforeach $nickname (sort keys(%alias)) { X $_ = $alias{$nickname} ; X $aliasc++ ; X X ( $fullname, $addrlist ) = split(/\#/) ; X X # anything after a ',' in the fullname is optional comment X if ( $fullname =~ /,/ ) { X $fullname =~ s/(.*),(.*)/\1/ ; X $comment = "$2" ; X } X else { X $comment = '' ; X } X X # a ';' in the fullname for Elm, must be a ',' for Pine X $fullname =~ s/;/, / ; X X # distribution-list aliases need brackets X $addrlist = "(" . "$addrlist" . ")" if ( $addrlist =~ /,/ ) ; X X # output as Pine aliases now: X # TABTAB
TABTAB X # [Aaaaaaaaaarrrrggggggggggggghhhhhh.... why the !&^@#$^$% `TAB' :--( X X $, = "\t" ; X print $nickname, $fullname, $addrlist ; X X # if we have a comment-field, we will put in a Fcc-field as well X print "\t$nickname\t$comment" if ($comment ne '') ; X print "\n" ; X} X Xprint STDERR "$P: [OK] successfully converted $aliasc aliases.\n" ; X Xexit 0 ; X X__END__ SHAR_EOF $TOUCH -am 0903221994 elm2pine && chmod 0755 elm2pine || echo "restore of elm2pine failed" set `wc -c elm2pine`;Wc_c=$1 if test "$Wc_c" != "3564"; then echo original size 3564, current size $Wc_c fi exit 0 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 24 07:02:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12048; Mon, 24 Apr 95 07:02:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04836; Mon, 24 Apr 95 06:49:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04830; Mon, 24 Apr 95 06:49:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s3OSP-00038TC; Mon, 24 Apr 95 06:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Eric Ross, Colorado College" Subject: [Q] Source of left over lockfiles Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 09:42:58 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am running into an email problem, but I'm not sure of the source. And I'm a newbie UNIX system administrator. I would appreciate any suggestions you might have! We are running DG/UX 5.4R3.10 and pine 3.91. Periodically a user is unable to receive mail. The sender gets the mail back with: UX:mail: ERROR: Creation of lockfile failed after 10 tries UX:mail: ERROR: Cannot create dead.letter: Permission denied On investigation I find files in /var/mail of the form eross.lock or eross.lock.798211577.2688.cccc where eross is the affected usercode. If I delete the file the problem is resolved. I found a number of users had .pine-crash files in their home directories, all of which contain near the end: about to end_tty_driver Pine Panic: Received abort signal I should mention that all users are on PCs telneting to the system. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you might have! Eric Ross Colorado College eross@cc.colorado.edu 14 E. Cache la Poudre St. (719) 389-6452 Colorado Springs, Colorado 80903 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 24 12:11:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25548; Mon, 24 Apr 95 12:11:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11739; Mon, 24 Apr 95 11:43:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11733; Mon, 24 Apr 95 11:42:56 -0700 Received: from trex (trex.kwantlen.bc.ca) by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA18665; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 11:42:39 -0700 Received: by trex (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA12934; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 11:42:38 +0800 Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dumaresq X-Sender: david@trex To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Macro or shortcuts needed In-Reply-To: <3n91s5$j8l@mars.cnct.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 810 > > : Macros are on our (infinitely long) to-do list............. > Just a suggestion about your infinitely long list: have you considered enlisting some of the talent that is lurking about out here? We could be designing, coding, testing functions for you or is there something financial/political or just plain practical that doesn't make this idea feasible? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 24 12:25:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25945; Mon, 24 Apr 95 12:25:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12278; Mon, 24 Apr 95 12:07:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12272; Mon, 24 Apr 95 12:07:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s3TOz-00038SC; Mon, 24 Apr 95 12:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Daniel Swim Subject: Two questions. Message-Id: Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 10:00:42 -0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have two questions: 1. In pine, when printing, how do I get the burst page shut off? 2. When viewing a newsgroup in pine hwo do you delete multiple messages instead of hitting the d key many times over? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Daniel Swim Telephone: (902) 893-6642 (ext 1480) Plant Industry Branch Fax: (902) 893-0244 N.S. Dept. of Agriculture and Marketing Email: DS@gusws.nsac.ns.ca Truro, Nova Scotia, Canada If I only had a 400 4/233 model AXP. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 24 12:27:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26000; Mon, 24 Apr 95 12:27:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19247; Mon, 24 Apr 95 12:08:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19239; Mon, 24 Apr 95 12:08:43 -0700 Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V4.3-13 #2001) id <01HPPT4M66BY8WXHEQ@INNOSOFT.COM>; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 12:08:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 12:08:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Portia Shao Subject: Re: Pine and VMS paths In-Reply-To: To: Guy BRAND Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT On Fri, 21 Apr 1995, Guy BRAND wrote: > Hi, > > > Could someone tell me how to specify the inbox path (IMAP syntax) so that > Pine read the a mailbox I have on a VMS system ? I tried the usual > {host.domain}inbox string but it doesn't work. what IMAP server is running on the VMS system? if it is running PMDF's IMAP server, then the syntax should work. You can tell if it running PMDF's IMAP server by telneting to port 143 of the system. > > Thanks for help > > GB > > > ___ ___ Guy BRAND - Consultant svp@chimie - ==== > / |\/ |\ ____________________________________ =---==== > / |/ || Work : Guy.Brand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr =-----==== > / /| /| || Home : gizmo@fondation.u-strasbg.fr ==---===== > /_/ |__/ |_|| ======== > \_\/\__\/\_\|oins on pense, plus on parle (MONTESQUIEU). ==== > > > > /portia portia@innosoft.com Innosoft International Inc. (818)919-3600 voice, (818)919-3614 fax 1050 East Garvey Ave South, West Covina, CA 91790 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 24 13:54:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00372; Mon, 24 Apr 95 13:54:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14523; Mon, 24 Apr 95 13:32:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14517; Mon, 24 Apr 95 13:32:24 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16256; Mon, 24 Apr 95 13:32:17 -0700 Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 13:32:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: David Dumaresq Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Macro or shortcuts needed In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 24 Apr 1995, David Dumaresq wrote: > > : Macros are on our (infinitely long) to-do list............. > > Just a suggestion about your infinitely long list: have you considered > enlisting some of the talent that is lurking about out here? David, The challenge is software management. The ideal case for this type of assistance is to find an enhancement that involves one or a few modules that are not involved in the other work going on --otherwise we end up spending a lot of time synchronizing and re-integrating source code. There are not a lot of enhancements that can be easily isolated; that is, most involve modules that already have several sets of fingers modifying them. However, there are some: for example, quite a few people have asked for a mailbox driver that automatically compresses and uncompresses. Such a project could be done with minimal coordination, but so far no one has volunteered... -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 24 18:33:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12292; Mon, 24 Apr 95 18:33:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21411; Mon, 24 Apr 95 18:26:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from peter.atw.fullfeed.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21405; Mon, 24 Apr 95 18:26:29 -0700 Received: from edsi.edsi.appleton.wi.us (root@edsi.edsi.appleton.wi.us [199.201.120.1]) by peter.atw.fullfeed.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA26799 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 20:26:23 -0500 Received: (from ljk@localhost) by edsi.edsi.appleton.wi.us (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA00546; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 20:27:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 20:26:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Louise Neumann To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII subscribe pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 24 21:31:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16686; Mon, 24 Apr 95 21:31:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29969; Mon, 24 Apr 95 21:23:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29963; Mon, 24 Apr 95 21:23:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s3c66-00038RC; Mon, 24 Apr 95 21:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bashmore@grouse.amd.com (Buster Ashmore) Subject: Help: error during pipe Message-Id: Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 19:22:45 GMT The following message is always displayed when trying to pipe a message: stty: TCGETS: Inappropriate ioctl for device I am running on a sparc with sunOS 4.1.4 with gcc. Any ideas or suggestions are welcome. -- Cheers. Buster Ashmore email: buster.ashmore@amd.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 24 21:52:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17363; Mon, 24 Apr 95 21:52:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24627; Mon, 24 Apr 95 21:48:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24621; Mon, 24 Apr 95 21:48:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s3cSY-00038RC; Mon, 24 Apr 95 21:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Building Pine under Solaris 2.4 Date: 25 Apr 95 00:25:44 GMT Message-Id: References: <199504241347.JAA12158@wolverine.utias.utoronto.ca> mse@wolverine.utias.utoronto.ca (Manfred Sever) writes: >Well, I finally got Pine to compile and installed on a >Sparc 20 running Solaris 2.4 >Here is what I did: >1.) First I applied a patch (pine3.91.tar), but this didn't seem to > make a difference. I still got the same compile errors. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >2.) I then added a definition: `-Dconst' to CFLAGS, in `makefile.sol' > BUT this did not work, so I took it out again. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >3.) I then made the following modifications to `./pine/makefile.sol': > CC=cc > LDCC=cc > I also made the following modifications to `./pine/osdep/os-sv4.h': > #define ANSI > /*#define const */ > /*#define signal(a,b) sigset(a, b) */ > /*extern void (*sigset())(); */ > #define QSType void > /*#define QSType char */ This is almost certainly a mistake. Signal semantics for Solaris and other SVR4 variants are quite different from earlier UNIXes. Check comp.unix.solaris and the Solaris Porting FAQ. >With these definitions in `makefile.sol', and the above uncommented and >commented-out definitions in `os-sv4.h', Pine built with only a few >warning messages about ANSI-C compatibility. (I also added the following >compiler options to the native cc Sun compiler: -fast -xcg92 -KPIC -Xa >but this shouldn't matter.) There is no native Sun cc compiler, they are all add-ons now. >Compiling with gcc didn't work at all, (even with the patch described in >`1.)' above). In fact, gcc died a terrible death on `pico'. I have >the Cygnus gcc compiler installed here. Did you run the fixincludes according to the Cygnus install instructions? All versions of gcc depend on that crucial step to get their include files setup right. Many people have done it. You must have gotten a step wrong. >So its DONE and Pine seems to work fine with no modifications other than >to the `makefile.sol' and `os-sv4.h' files. >Special thanks to: David Drum, David L Miller, Chip Old, and Wai Ming Tai >for their responses. >Manfred. >=============================================================================== >Manfred D. M. Sever | > | >Space Robotics Group, | E-mail: mse@sdr.utias.utoronto.ca >University of Toronto | Tel.: (416) 667-7744 (Desk) >Institute for Aerospace Studies | (416) 667-7731 (Computer Room) >4925 Dufferin Street | (416) 667-7722 (Lab) >Downsview, ON CANADA | Fax: (416) 667-7799 >M3H 5T6 | >=============================================================================== -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 24 23:16:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19315; Mon, 24 Apr 95 23:16:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01382; Mon, 24 Apr 95 23:11:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from actcom.co.il by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01376; Mon, 24 Apr 95 23:11:12 -0700 Received: from galtronics.UUCP by actcom.co.il with UUCPgaltronics (8.6.10/actcom-0.1) id JAA13659 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 09:11:28 +0300 (rfc931-sender: uucp@localhost) Received: by aviion.galtronics.co.il (5.4R2.10/ACTCOM-GALTRONICS-S-1.0) id AA08372; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 09:01:52 GMT Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 09:01:52 +0000 (GMT) From: Aladdin Khamis To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Ispell In-Reply-To: <3ng4dd$70q@krant.cs.ruu.nl> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does any of you know anything about Ispell working under DG/UX systems ? or maybe any other speller that is much better than the UNIX speller, something that can give suggestions for spelling mistakes. >--|\/\/\/|------------------------------------ >| | | | E-mail: khamis@galtronics.co.il | Aladdin Khamis >| | (o)(o) '--/ /----------------------------- >| C _) // | Information Systems Department >| | ,___| / | Galtronics Ltd. >---| /-------------------- P.O.Box 1589 Tiberias 14115 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 24 23:39:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19683; Mon, 24 Apr 95 23:39:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26134; Mon, 24 Apr 95 23:32:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from warrane.connect.com.au by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26128; Mon, 24 Apr 95 23:32:41 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by warrane.connect.com.au with UUCP id PAA01096 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6); Tue, 25 Apr 1995 15:01:54 +1000 Received: from testing.jhbs.com.au (testing.jhbs.com.au [128.102.0.2]) by ubik.jhbs.com.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA186469; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 14:59:16 +1000 Received: (from bens@localhost) by testing.jhbs.com.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA40784; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 14:59:16 +1000 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 14:59:15 +1000 (EET) From: Ben Seaman MIS To: Rene Grothmann Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Composer crashes Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Try Pine 3.91 and get yourself upgraded to at least AIX 3.2.5. I don't even think IBM still supports 3.1 regards, Ben ************************************************************************* * Ben Seaman bens@jhbs.com.au * * AIX/Network Systems Specialist * * Nettrack Pty Ltd * * * * 61-2-8588527 (work) James Hardie Building Services * * 61-2-4384385 (office) * ************************************************************************* On Mon, 24 Apr 1995, Rene Grothmann wrote: > I am still having occasional long delays and sometimes even crashes > when composing a message. Maybe someon has had the same problem and > found a solution. > > I am using Pine 3.90 on a IBM AIX 3.1. > > Rene > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 25 00:56:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21184; Tue, 25 Apr 95 00:56:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02352; Tue, 25 Apr 95 00:47:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02346; Tue, 25 Apr 95 00:47:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s3fGq-00038QC; Tue, 25 Apr 95 00:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Pico limitations Date: 25 Apr 95 00:22:18 GMT Message-Id: References: <3nehs2$h23@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> messina@engin.umich.edu (Matt Messina) writes: >I realize that Pico is not the most robust editor ever written, nor is it >intended to be. But I like it anyway. It's almost as fast as vi and >much easier to use. >Inability to search for regexps is not a problem; it's just a missing >feature. But there are two problems with the editor that might screw up >people's files. >1) The "long lines wrapped" problem. When Pico reads in a file, if there > are lines longer than X, then the lines are split. >2) Out of memory. If there is not enough memory, Pico will load the file > as much as it can, but will leave off the lines at the end that it > doesn't have room for. (I have only observed this once, on a very > heavily loaded machine with a 200K file.) >Are there any plans to fix these? A command line option that would >sacrifice speed for arbitrary line length might be a good idea. And the >truncating of a file is unacceptable. If there isn't enough room, it >should just say, "Sorry, I can't load the whole file." Since pico is basically a minimal uEMACS, why not just "enable-alternate-editor-explicitly" and use GNU emacs or one of the emacs subsets or clones such as jed or jove? I use jove. >This is on Pico 2.5 >-- >Matt Messina >messina@umich.edu -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 25 06:49:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29760; Tue, 25 Apr 95 06:49:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01940; Tue, 25 Apr 95 06:33:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01934; Tue, 25 Apr 95 06:33:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s3kfo-00038TC; Tue, 25 Apr 95 06:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dave Rhodes Subject: Re: No MIME Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 22:36:53 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, curses(3). It seems that the NNTP host to which I originally posted this message doesn't pass anything upstream. So I'm forced to attempt to post it again to the newsgroups. This lag provided me with time to check on yet another 8BITMIME ESMTP server, which was not mentioned in the original post which was seen by the zmailer list. Comments about this server have been added. [ This message is being posted in discussion groups for Pine (Usenet ] [ comp.mail.pine or by mail, pine-info@cac.washington.edu), as well as ] [ zmailer (mail only, zmailer@cs.toronto.edu) and MIME (comp.mail.mime or ] [ mail info-mime@cs.utk.edu), in the event some reader of the latter would ] [ volunteer to help zmailer with this problem. ] [ The real question appears near the end. All that leads up to it is ] [ purely background fluff. ] On Thu, 13 Apr 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > If the 8th bit is delivered correct and not cut off by some stupid gateways, > > there is no need to put an ordinary ISO-8859-X text into 'quoted-printable'. > > I'd like to turn that off, too. > > The next release of Pine will be able to negotiate 8bit c-t-e for text if > your MTA understands ESMTP 8BITMIME. > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 Given that Pine3.92 will be supporting the 8BITMIME ESMTP option, it then becomes the responsibility of the MTA to guarantee proper delivery of 8BITMIME mail to the recipient, performing any conversions as are needed to get the message through any intermediate MTAs without losing any of the information originally contained in the message. (For a description of the 8BITMIME ESMTP option, refer to RFC 1652. In this RFC, an MTA is given two options -- either convert the message, or bounce it as undeliverable. It is to be hoped that few, if any, MTAs would choose the latter course, so instead we concentrate on the conversion of the 8-bit message to some 7-bit-safe equivalent.) At present, there are relatively few MTAs which claim to speak the 8BITMIME needed to properly handle the message. The ones I know of are: PMDF certain versions of the Mercury NLM for Novell LANs newer versions of zmailer from Matti Aarnio and, not yet released, BSD Sendmail v8.7. [A version of BSD v8.6 integrated with Emil1.1 was discovered and tested.] From what I can tell, PMDF is conformant to the RFC, as will be the default configuration of sendmail v8.7. However, bouncing a variety of experimental messages off the other MTAs revealed that they don't quite match the performance expected by the RFC. (To their credit, they don't bounce the message, which I would consider a hindrance to the widespread use of 8BITMIME in preference to the present widespread practice of JustSend8 mail with the possibility of loss of data or even bounced mail.) My bounce tests were performed by composing a MIME message with an 8-bit text/plain part, which I then sent with an 8-bit-clean version of BSD Sendmail v8 (does not convert from 8-bit to 7-bit equivalent) to an 8BITMIME mailer to get the conversion needed to conform to the RFC in the ESMTP dialog. The resulting 8BITMIME message was then delivered to the mailer in question, with a destination address of a non-8BITMIME MTA, often a version of IDA sendmail which is decidedly *not* 8-bit clean. The proper behavior of the MTA under attack in this fashion should be to convert the message to a 7-bit form by either BASE64-ing it, or converting it to a QUOTED-PRINTABLE-ized form. The RFC states that in no circumstances should the suspect MTA try to deliver 8-bit data. The JustSend8 to 8BITMIME conversion was usually performed by a version of zmailer, with 8BITMIME support added by Matti Aarnio. The log files on the host indicate that the MAIL command of the ESMTP dialog conformed to the RFC, even though the original incoming message arrived with SMTP as JustSend8 8-bit data. The version of PMDF running at Innosoft performed conversions of MIME text/plain messages with no problems. I also generated a multipart/mixed message with two body parts of text/plain with 8-bit data, which PMDF was able to handle properly. (At least, in a way which would not affect the content of the multipart messages which Pine creates, which consist of one text/plain part, and any number of attachments [text, image, application] already made mail-safe in BASE64 form.) [ The version of BSD sendmail v8.6 with Emil was tested and appeared to work like PMDF -- it had no problems converting text/plain or multipart messages. My only observation was that it applied the local tagging of charset="iso-8859-1" to those messages which arrived with JustSend8 and which were handed off with SMTP when those messages had no MIME headers, as opposed to the suggested tagging of the character set as unknown.] At the time of my play^H^H^H^Hexperimentation, half a year or more ago, Eric Allman was only mentioning incorporating 8BITMIME support into BSD sendmail. Even today, no 8.7.1 release has made it out, so there is no way for me to test the compliance of it, though that will be one of the first things I test when it does get released, Real Soon Now. However, the behavior of Mercury showed that, while the banner it provided would lead one into believing it supported 8BITMIME messages and all that this implies, my tests showed otherwise. The version that I pounded on was 1.13, which was configured to pass all mail it received with a destination outside its domain to BSD sendmail v8.6 for delivery. As this version of sendmail makes no claim to handle 8BITMIME data, the proper response of Mercury should have been to make the conversion, which it did not do. As a result, I only saw the stripped 7-bit equivalents of the message I was sending in the IDA destination mailbox. Perhaps this announcement of 8BITMIME was intended for incoming mail which would get delivered locally and never make it out. But as soon as one would make use of Mercury for handling outgoing mail, or use it as SMTP server, or if a recipient on the other side of Mercury were to forward mail elsewhere, mail which might be intended as 8BITMIME data suddenly becomes JustSend8 data. When I checked the system I had tortured before, I discovered that the version of Mercury running had been upgraded to 1.20, and it no longer laid claim to being able to speak 8BITMIME to the world. The moral behind this part of my research is that one should not point Pine3.92 at a Mercury 1.13 SMTP server and attempt to speak 8BITMIME, and that sites running 1.13 should upgrade their version to avoid advertising the false claim of conformance to RFC 1652. This should be no problem for configuration of Pine, since one must select whether one wants Pine (or PC-Pine) to try to send mail with 8BITMIME if the SMTP server claims to support it -- it's not the default, from what I've been told. The problem of zmailer is a bit more complicated. I was using it to generate the ESMTP 8BITMIME dialog, for which it performed admirably when speaking to an 8BITMIME ESMTP server regardless of top-level message type (text/plain or multipart/mixed). If I were to send JustSend8 mail to it for delivery to a non-8BITMIME MTA, it would add MIME headers and convert to QUOTED-PRINTABLE encoding. If I were to send JustSend8 mail with MIME C-T-E: 8BIT headers, it would convert the text/plain message to Q-P for delivery. So it was able to handle simple single-part messages well. However, my tests half a year ago revealed problems handling multipart messages. The mea version of zmailer did not recognize them, and would convert the entire message to Q-P, adding its own MIME headers for the unknown charset it believed it was being presented with. In other words, it simply did not understand multipart messages when any part of them had an 8BIT content. The resulting mail that was sent out ended up garbled so that a MIME-aware MUA could not make sense of the attachments, but would display the entire message. In other words, zmailer, while claiming support for 8BITMIME, could only handle single-part messages properly. That was then, this is several months later. Luckily, zmailer is one of those programs that is actively being worked on thanks to Matti. So, again, I dragged out my multipart 8-bit mail and repeated my tests, since there was a new version, different from the one I had tested earlier. This time my tests were not as thorough -- I simply handed the JustSend8 mail directly to the zmailer in question, rather than running it through another zmailer to perform the 8BITMIME dialog according to the RFC (my guess was that if zmailer treated JustSend8 mail as 8BITMIME incoming, it would still do so regardless of content-type). I didn't try the untagged JustSend8 mail with this pass, and I don't think that I tried JustSend8 mail with MIME headers, as I had already made my tests with those earlier and didn't think zmailer's behavior would be any different. However, there was a distinct change in the way my multipart message was handled. Luckily, the top-level headers were left intact. This means that any MIME-aware MUA would have no difficulty recognizing an attachment from Pine (I understand that Pine will still use BASE64 encoding for attachments as it does now). This is quite an improvement over the previous behavior. On the other hand, no attempt was made to convert the message parts with C-T-E of 8BIT. This means that my IDA mailbox received the 7-bit stipped equivalents of the characters I was testing. In other words, the zmailer I tested handles text/plain messages as 8BITMIME messages, but it handles multipart messages as JustSend8 messages. Thus, we come to the reason behind this excessively long post. I've posted this to the MIME group in case some generous soul there happens to want to take a look at zmailer and offer the code needed for it to perform the complete 8BITMIME conversion for all parts of a message. My guess is that it shouldn't be too difficult, as top-level conversion is implemented adequately. But then, I don't write code. With this, then zmailer's claim to be 8BITMIME-compliant will be much less likely to cause problems. I'm also including this in both the zmailer and Pine discussion lists, as any SysAdmin who runs both should be aware of this incompatibility of zmailer with the upcoming Pine3.92. Again, maybe someone who likes to hack on zmailer code would volunteer to contribute the changes needed. And I'm asking this of the Pine developers: Given that zmailer claims 8BITMIME support, and indeed is able to handle text/plain messages, which in my opinion would be the bulk of the messages with 8-bit data it would receive from Pine3.92, but has difficulty with multipart messages, would it be possible to include in Pine, in addition to the option to speak 8BITMIME to the SMTP server, an option to disable 8BITMIMEspeak when sending multipart messages and the first option is set, for peaceful co-existence with zmailer? My reasoning behind this is as follows... If Pine will be sending its data in Q-P or BASE64 form anyway if the ESMTP dialog fails to reveal an 8BITMIME server, it should be simple to add code to detect if the message is multipart and act similarly. This should be a temporary thing, as I am guessing that eventually zmailer will have full 8BITMIME compliance. And, as zmailer is one of a small number of MTAs which attempt to conform to 8BITMIME, helping to advance its acceptance in a world where JustSend8 is preferred by many over QUOTED-PRINTABLE, and is seeing use in environments where 8-bit data is commonly used for text mail, I'd hope that people would be willing to accommodate it to work around its present shortcomings. (I don't know how many sites use zmailer.) Furthermore, MIME multipart messages are much less useful to a recipient without a MIME MUA, while text/plain messages delivered with 8BITMIME are readable by the majority of mailreaders, certainly those in use where JustSend8 non-English text prevails, and so the loss of sending multipart messages with Q-P is rather insignificant. I am guessing that with the upcoming release of BSD Sendmail v8.7, and the ability of Pine3.92 to make use of 8BITMIME ESMTP servers, the use of 8BITMIME in sending mail will increase such that eventually zmailer will have to fully conform, or drop its claim, in order to co-exist with sites that still run 7-bit MTAs like my IDA site. Then, instead of people complaining about the MUAs like Pine using Q-P, they can focus on upgrading the MTAs to speak 8BITMIME so that a good proportion of mail can be delivered with 8-bit data intact, and in easily readable form. Barry Bouwsma From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 25 07:35:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00903; Tue, 25 Apr 95 07:35:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06754; Tue, 25 Apr 95 07:28:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06748; Tue, 25 Apr 95 07:28:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s3lXb-00038QC; Tue, 25 Apr 95 07:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Christopher Steven Williams Subject: Another .sig question!!! Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 00:39:38 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it possible to assign different .sig`s to specific newsgroups? The one on this letter is the same for every letter and I wanted a .sig that approprietly matched the newsgroup (like a good quote from startrek for alt.ensign.wesley.die.die.die). ---------------------------------------------------- Christopher Williams cwilliam@gladstone.uoregon.edu http://gladstone.uoregon.edu:80/~cwilliam/index.html ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 25 08:34:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03252; Tue, 25 Apr 95 08:34:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04091; Tue, 25 Apr 95 08:24:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04085; Tue, 25 Apr 95 08:24:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s3mQm-00038QC; Tue, 25 Apr 95 08:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin McElearney Subject: Re: Random .sig generator Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:55:42 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3n5shv$1su@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA> <15925.9504241041@lang2.st-andrews.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <15925.9504241041@lang2.st-andrews.ac.uk> On Mon, 24 Apr 1995, Giuseppe Andrea Teti wrote: > 1. I have version 3.91, which -if I'm replying to some message- puts the .sig > on top of this message, which is really awkward if I want to reply using > original text. Is there any way of outting the .sig at the bottom? This is the default action (signature-at-bottom) for reply, but not for forwarding which I think is what you really meant. > 2. I have a group of friends to whom I regularly forward three or four messages > a day- is there any way I can automatise this creating a special header? I don't think there is a simple setup option to do this. I believe it is done this way to distinguish a forwarded message from a reply. Forwarded messages are not quoted. There is probably some RFC out there which says to do it this way. If you really need to do this, you could get fancy with editor macros. Kevin McElearney (KM108) _________________________________________________________________________ BBN Planet Corporation Phone: +1 617 873-4684 New England Region Engineering Fax: +1 617 873-5620 150 Cambridge Park Drive, 20/342 http://www.bbnplanet.com/ Cambridge, MA 02140 mailto:kmcelear@bbnplanet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 25 13:17:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17354; Tue, 25 Apr 95 13:17:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10957; Tue, 25 Apr 95 13:04:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10951; Tue, 25 Apr 95 13:04:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s3qkk-00038QC; Tue, 25 Apr 95 12:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw (Brian Tao) Subject: Re: Bug (ID TE9E7): Not a bug: Lack of feature... Date: 25 Apr 1995 03:06:05 GMT Message-Id: <3nhout$o0g@gate.sinica.edu.tw> References: In article , Telugu Network wrote: : :How to "automate" pine? I would like pine to run everyday in the morning :@ 5:00 to do some "saving work" (save the articles from a newsgroup into :a file using ;AAS and a filename ? : :pine < file : :is not legal ;-) Sorry I had to send a "bug-report". Couldn't :locate an email address easily. Try using trn or nn to automate news article collection. Use procmail to filter incoming mail. Those functions are beyond the scope of an MUA like Pine. -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 25 13:19:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17431; Tue, 25 Apr 95 13:19:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14290; Tue, 25 Apr 95 13:10:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14284; Tue, 25 Apr 95 13:10:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s3qsY-00038QC; Tue, 25 Apr 95 13:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: boc@indy.net (Brendan E. O'Connor) Subject: Re: Printing thru PC Date: 25 Apr 1995 15:44:11 GMT Message-Id: <3nj5cb$d2j@indy-backup.indy.net> About two months ago, I suddenly lost the ability to print from Pine to my local printer using the "Y" command. When I press "Y" for Print and answer yes to the "Print to "attached-to-ansi"? question, the message prints to the screen instead of to my printer. This problem occurred at the same time both at home: '386 to Epson FX-85 and at work: '486 to HP LJ III. It also is consistent across at least two terminal emulators--both windows-based. Is this likely to be a problem with my Pine Setup? If so, what should I check? Or is it possibly a problem with the Pine program or setup used by my local access provider? I thought I'd post here first and try my local sysop next if no one has any better ideas on what I might be doing wrong. I've been making do by saving messages to my hard drive and printing them throught MS-Word, but this is the slow way. Thanks for any ideas/help you can provide. Brendan -- Brendan O'Connor Indianapolis, IN boc@indy.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 25 13:59:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22949; Tue, 25 Apr 95 13:59:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11781; Tue, 25 Apr 95 13:35:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11775; Tue, 25 Apr 95 13:35:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s3rHg-00038RC; Tue, 25 Apr 95 13:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jose Reynaldo Setti Subject: Debug files Message-Id: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 13:41:07 GMT What are the .pine-debug* files for? Debugging? 8-) How can I avoid their creation? Thanks in advance, --jrs. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 25 14:04:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23137; Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:04:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17415; Tue, 25 Apr 95 13:58:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17409; Tue, 25 Apr 95 13:58:25 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24697; Tue, 25 Apr 95 13:58:13 -0700 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 13:58:10 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Ulrich Windl Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: long attachments: split? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Not at this time. Pine will happily send as big a message as the sending and recieving systems have disk space for ;) |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 19 Apr 1995, Ulrich Windl wrote: > Date: 19 Apr 1995 07:30:05 GMT > From: Ulrich Windl > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: long attachments: split? > > Are long attachments (MIME attachments) split if they exceed a certain > amount of bytes. > -- > Ulrich Windl > Klinikum der Universitaet Regensburg, Rechenzentrum DV-med > Franz-Josef-Strauss-Allee 11 > D-93042 Regensburg, Germany > %%[PGP 2.3a/2.6ui Public Key 0x[e8]43660d on at least one key server]%% > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 25 14:11:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23627; Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:11:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15461; Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:06:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15455; Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:06:30 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24953; Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:06:27 -0700 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 14:06:24 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jeffrey Westall Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Moderator needs help ... In-Reply-To: <3n5rh6$ic6@bigboote.WPI.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You can uncomment the "ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM" line in pine/os_???.h in the Pine source and rebuild to get a version that allows you to change the From: header... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 20 Apr 1995, Jeffrey Westall wrote: > Date: 20 Apr 1995 14:36:22 GMT > From: Jeffrey Westall > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Moderator needs help ... > > I am the moderator of a newsgroup (wpi.massacademy) and I want to use > pine to post other peoples articles to the newsgroup. I have already > added the needed Approved: header, but now everything I post is from > me instead of from the original poster, as could be done using mail > and inews. I tried adding the From: header, but Pine says I can't > change the from header. Is there any way to get pine to let me > change this header, or any way to make the correct poster show in the > newsgroup? > > Thanks! > Jeffrey Westall > jwestall@wpi.wpi.edu > -- > _______________________________________________________________________________ > wpi.massacad is moderated by Jeffrey Westall. To post articles, simply post > them to wpi.massacad and they will be automatically forwarded. All articles > are posted except those of a slanderous nature. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 25 14:37:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24672; Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:37:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15722; Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:20:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15716; Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:20:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s3rti-00038eC; Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ac406@cfn.cs.dal.ca (Robert Creighton) Subject: Multiple @ in Address Message-Id: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 14:58:41 GMT Our internal mail system requires some addresses to be "chained" through others, such as user@machine1@machine2. Pine 3.91 does not like this format, and produces "junk at end of address: @machine2" Can this be fixed? I don't have the problem with DEC's TeamLinks or Sun's Mailtool. -- Regards R.W. Creighton Halifax NS CANADA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 25 14:50:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25860; Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:50:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18683; Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:41:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18671; Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:41:18 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25893; Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:41:16 -0700 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 14:41:13 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Matt Messina Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Bob Brody Subject: Re: deleting in PICO In-Reply-To: <3nei4b$h3k@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine 3.92 will have an option to switch the behavior of DEL from backspace to ^D. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 23 Apr 1995, Matt Messina wrote: > Date: 23 Apr 1995 21:51:07 GMT > From: Matt Messina > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: deleting in PICO > > Bob Brody wrote: > >When pressing the Del key (and IBM/DOS computer) while in PICO, the > >character immediately before the cursor is deleted. Is there a > >configuration setting that would have it delete the character where the > >cursor sits rather than the character before it? > > Pico treats both Delete and Backspace as "backward-delete-char." To > "delete-char," use ^D. > -- > Matt Messina > messina@umich.edu > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 25 14:52:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25936; Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:52:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16456; Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:42:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mercury.bih.harvard.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16450; Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:42:34 -0700 Received: (from scott@localhost) by BIH Mail Handler (8.6.9/8.6.12) id RAA13615; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 17:42:33 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 17:42:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott McWilliams X-Sender: scott@mercury To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Distribution List limit? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We've got a user with about 200 names in a distribution list. When she adds them, the first few show up on a line entitled DISTRIBUTION LIST in her addresbook but the vast majority get prepended to the whole list as comma and tab separated before even her regular addressbook entries. I took the addressbook, edited everything back into place but when accessed again the 190 or so names were prepended in the file. Also, when she puts the name of the Distribution List in the To: field or the BCC: field to limit exposure, it immediately disappears after the return is pressed. Is there some limit to the number of names in the list? I didn't see anything in the docs, but may have missed something. Allegedly, this was not a problem on another system running 3.89. We're running SunOS 4.1.3 and 3.91. ------------------ - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------------------------------ | Scott A. McWilliams Internet: Scott_McWilliams@bih.harvard.edu | | Sysadmin, Postmaster | | Beth Israel Hospital, Network Services Vox: +1 617.667.5559 | | 330 Brookline Ave, Boston MA 02215 Facs: +1 617.667.3966 | -------------------- - -Deinimid iarracht ni/os fearr!- - ------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 25 14:55:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26077; Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:55:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18695; Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:41:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18685; Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:41:29 -0700 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA08241; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 14:41:24 -0700 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 14:41:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: Re: long attachments: split? To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 25 Apr 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > Not at this time. Pine will happily send as big a message as the sending > and recieving systems have disk space for ;) Along the same vein...Pine doesn't seem to be able to reattach multimessage split MIME code. (Ultimail from IBM comes to mind here) B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 25 15:17:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26956; Tue, 25 Apr 95 15:17:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19014; Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:56:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19006; Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:56:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s3sVG-00038RC; Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Carl Reimann Subject: forcing mail check Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 13:18:15 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any way to force a mail check? I don't like having to quit Pine and start it up again repeatedly when I am waiting for mail to arrive. Carl From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 25 15:19:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27026; Tue, 25 Apr 95 15:19:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19262; Tue, 25 Apr 95 15:05:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19256; Tue, 25 Apr 95 15:05:07 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26651; Tue, 25 Apr 95 15:04:46 -0700 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 15:04:40 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Dave Rhodes Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: No MIME In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 24 Apr 1995, Dave Rhodes wrote: > Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 22:36:53 -0400 > From: Dave Rhodes > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: No MIME > > > And I'm asking this of the Pine developers: Given that zmailer claims > 8BITMIME support, and indeed is able to handle text/plain messages, which > in my opinion would be the bulk of the messages with 8-bit data it would > receive from Pine3.92, but has difficulty with multipart messages, would > it be possible to include in Pine, in addition to the option to speak > 8BITMIME to the SMTP server, an option to disable 8BITMIMEspeak when > sending multipart messages and the first option is set, for peaceful > co-existence with zmailer? > Pine 3.92 will have an option to enable/disable the 8BITMIME support, but we haven't considered a seperate toggle for single/multipart... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 25 18:18:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08847; Tue, 25 Apr 95 18:18:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20435; Tue, 25 Apr 95 18:09:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from oxmail2.ox.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20429; Tue, 25 Apr 95 18:09:36 -0700 Received: from sable.ox.ac.uk by oxmail2.ox.ac.uk. with SMTP (PP) id <16497-0@oxmail2.ox.ac.uk.>; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 02:09:51 +0100 Received: (from tr95006@localhost) by sable.ox.ac.uk (1.3/8.6.11) id CAA31539; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 02:09:46 +0100 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 02:09:46 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Owen To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Auto-bounce in Pine? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 19 Apr 1995, David L Miller wrote: > Not in Pine, but you can do it with a delivery filter like procmail, > devliver, filter, or mailagent... Hmm. How do I do this? - Chris From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 25 19:03:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10146; Tue, 25 Apr 95 19:03:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21143; Tue, 25 Apr 95 18:57:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from warrane.connect.com.au by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21132; Tue, 25 Apr 95 18:57:27 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by warrane.connect.com.au with UUCP id LAA19558 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 26 Apr 1995 11:56:00 +1000 Received: from testing.jhbs.com.au (testing.jhbs.com.au [128.102.0.2]) by ubik.jhbs.com.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA150363 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 11:19:43 +1000 Received: (from bens@localhost) by testing.jhbs.com.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA20609; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 11:19:43 +1000 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 11:19:43 +1000 (EET) From: Ben Seaman MIS To: Pine Mailing List Subject: wyse60 key bindings Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a requirement to provide pine for a user base that uses wyse60 terminals. All keys use standard wyse codes. I would prefer to use the function key mode if possible as most of the users are not experienced. I managed to modify ttyin.c to recognise the wyse function keys in pine, but when you go into the composer (pico), it doesn't know anything about the function keys. I noticed that tcap.c is where pico sets up allowable sequences for function keys, etc. but I can't get it to work for the wyse function keys where F1 = ^A@^J, F2 = ^AA^J, F3 = ^AB^J, .... 1. Has anyone got pine to work with wyse60 terminals? 2. Does function key mode really work? regards, Ben ************************************************************************* * Ben Seaman bens@jhbs.com.au * * AIX/Network Systems Specialist * * Nettrack Pty Ltd * * * * 61-2-8588527 (work) James Hardie Building Services * * 61-2-4384385 (office) * ************************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 25 21:14:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13761; Tue, 25 Apr 95 21:14:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22713; Tue, 25 Apr 95 21:01:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22706; Tue, 25 Apr 95 21:01:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s3yF3-00038RC; Tue, 25 Apr 95 20:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ieee@cr-df.rnp.br (IEEE - Secao Brasilia) Subject: Pine port to OS/2 and DOS Message-Id: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 18:49:47 GMT I would like to know if there is any port of Pine (any version) to OS/2 2.0+ or DOS. If there is, where could i find a copy of it? Many thanks, Adrian Dantas From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 25 21:17:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13916; Tue, 25 Apr 95 21:17:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01044; Tue, 25 Apr 95 21:12:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01038; Tue, 25 Apr 95 21:12:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s3yP9-00038RC; Tue, 25 Apr 95 21:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mtangard@crl.com (Mark Tangard) Subject: Config in SETUP doesn't save settings! Date: 25 Apr 1995 20:03:35 -0700 Message-Id: <3nkd67$88t@crl5.crl.com> I'm using PINE 3.91 and am trying to change the value for "default-fcc" (which is now ). It never takes. The helpfile says make sure you have "fcc-name-rule" set to default. I do. The default-fcc parameter still goes away when I reset it (and none of my outgoing mail is getting saved, which is presumably the purpose of the fcc parameter). What am I doing wrong or omitting?! -- Mark Tangard - SF CA ------------------------------ ----------------- "Life is nothing if you aren't obsessed." --John Waters ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 25 22:54:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16363; Tue, 25 Apr 95 22:54:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02393; Tue, 25 Apr 95 22:40:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from actcom.co.il by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02387; Tue, 25 Apr 95 22:40:54 -0700 Received: from galtronics.UUCP by actcom.co.il with UUCPgaltronics (8.6.10/actcom-0.1) id IAA00315; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 08:40:55 +0300 (rfc931-sender: uucp@localhost) Received: by aviion.galtronics.co.il (5.4R2.10/ACTCOM-GALTRONICS-S-1.0) id AA20263; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 08:35:49 GMT Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 08:35:49 +0000 (GMT) From: Aladdin Khamis To: Jose Reynaldo Setti Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Debug files In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 25 Apr 1995, Jose Reynaldo Setti wrote: > What are the .pine-debug* files for? Debugging? 8-) > How can I avoid their creation? > > Thanks in advance, > Hi Jose, This what I read in pine frequent asked questions: o You can suppress the creation of .pine-debug files by running with debugging turned off, i.e. invoke "pine -d 0". Note, however, that this will prevent recording data that might be essential to solving a problem you encounter. Pine normally keeps the last four pine-debug files in your Unix home directory. P.s. If you like I can E-mail you the questions I have on pine. > --jrs. > >--|\/\/\/|------------------------------------ >| | | | E-mail: khamis@galtronics.co.il | Aladdin Khamis >| | (o)(o) '--/ /----------------------------- >| C _) // | Information Systems Department >| | ,___| / | Galtronics Ltd. >---| /-------------------- P.O.Box 1589 Tiberias 14115 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 25 22:56:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16413; Tue, 25 Apr 95 22:56:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24064; Tue, 25 Apr 95 22:42:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24058; Tue, 25 Apr 95 22:42:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s3zjz-00038RC; Tue, 25 Apr 95 22:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chriss@geo.ruhr.de (Lars Diel) Subject: pine and uucp? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 20:43:20 GMT Hi! I ask again. Can I read with Pine 3.91 (linux) news, which from CNEWS spool to /var/spool/news comp/ mail/ pine/ I have a UUCP connection. All programms and all news are on my computer. news-collection= *[] does not work. And /var/spool/news/*[] does not work too, cuz he found no folder. -- -- CU Lars From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 25 23:13:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17039; Tue, 25 Apr 95 23:13:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02799; Tue, 25 Apr 95 23:11:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from actcom.co.il by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02793; Tue, 25 Apr 95 23:10:45 -0700 Received: from galtronics.UUCP by actcom.co.il with UUCPgaltronics (8.6.10/actcom-0.1) id JAA03556; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 09:10:30 +0300 (rfc931-sender: uucp@localhost) Received: by aviion.galtronics.co.il (5.4R2.10/ACTCOM-GALTRONICS-S-1.0) id AA21583; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 08:51:30 GMT Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 08:51:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Aladdin Khamis To: Carl Reimann Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: forcing mail check In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 25 Apr 1995, Carl Reimann wrote: > Is there any way to force a mail check? I don't like having to quit Pine > and start it up again repeatedly when I am waiting for mail to arrive. > > Carl > There are currently two ways to force a new mail check. * Press `Ctrl-L' (Refresh Display). * At the last message in a folder, press 'N' 4-5 times. Also, you can enable-mail-check-cue in your setup/config so pine will display an astrik (*) in your upper left corner whenever pine is checking for new e-mail. Something else you would like to know is that pine checks for new mail every 2.5 minutes, you might be able to change that, but I don't know how to do that yet. >--|\/\/\/|------------------------------------ >| | | | E-mail: khamis@galtronics.co.il | Aladdin Khamis >| | (o)(o) '--/ /----------------------------- >| C _) // | Information Systems Department >| | ,___| / | Galtronics Ltd. >---| /-------------------- P.O.Box 1589 Tiberias 14115 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 26 01:06:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19809; Wed, 26 Apr 95 01:06:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04039; Wed, 26 Apr 95 00:46:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04033; Wed, 26 Apr 95 00:46:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s41iG-00038RC; Wed, 26 Apr 95 00:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin McElearney Subject: Re: pgp and pine 3.91 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 06:39:23 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-2143905441-2127331515-798028763=:7406" In-Reply-To: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---2143905441-2127331515-798028763=:7406 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 14 Apr 1995, Terry Gray wrote: > The web page is a bit out of date... 3.91 does not have any pgp support, > but 3.92 will have hooks to enable pgp use. (Sorry, no date for 3.92 yet) > > -teg To check a PGP signature you just need to "pipe" your message to the pgp command. I use vi as my alt-editor and have the following in my .exrc file to assist me in email composition. ^[ = A quoted character ^M = A quoted RETURN character. Both of these can be inserted in vi using a ^v (control V) " Format paragraph to 75 columns map ^[p !}fmt -c -75^M " " Spell check file (NOTE: saves current edit session) map ^[s :w!^M:!ispell %^M:e!^M^M " " PGP sign the message (NOTE: saves current edit session) map ^[S :w!^M:!pgpsign %^M:e!^M^M I have not done it yet, but a PGP encrypt script would not be hard to write. The only problem is the user name would have to be entered by hand. The short pgpsign script is attached. I know this is a hack but it will work until 3.92. Please don't ask me pgp questions check ftp://rtfm.mit.edu for FAQ information. While some of you "newbies" are at it read the pine FAQ. Kevin McElearney (KM108) _________________________________________________________________________ BBN Planet Corporation Phone: +1 617 873-4684 New England Region Engineering Fax: +1 617 873-5620 150 Cambridge Park Drive, 20/342 http://www.bbnplanet.com/ Cambridge, MA 02140 mailto:kmcelear@bbnplanet.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBL5Dznc09YMJUz6elAQGWgQQAinzzTFJuLsPqccv0s1FNPlH3nDDTx7uN 3ymYRph9UDPft5Eq699jLvYJUmGU9IcSB/IQywv/nXSnFKhel5q1VZJBbSKbiljo no/SonrCnF4Wn8YVY58+J46swJo9rwV6KG4/49rBWebWWX+xQFzr336UV+iCnrTF jWxxOAq52c4= =AOC9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---2143905441-2127331515-798028763=:7406 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=pgpsign Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: IyEvYmluL3NoDQoNCmlmIFsgISAtZiAkMSBdOyB0aGVuDQoJZWNobyAiJDA6 IEZpbGVuYW1lICckMScgZG9lcyBub3QgZXhpc3QiDQoJZXhpdCAxDQpmaQ0K DQpwZ3AgLXN0YSAkMQ0KbXYgJDEuYXNjICQxDQo= ---2143905441-2127331515-798028763=:7406-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 26 02:27:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21699; Wed, 26 Apr 95 02:27:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26659; Wed, 26 Apr 95 02:15:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26653; Wed, 26 Apr 95 02:15:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s43AB-00038TC; Wed, 26 Apr 95 02:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: macferrin@slsiris2 (Kurtis MacFerrin) Subject: "POSSIBLE ATTACK" messages from sendmail -- what gives? Date: 26 Apr 1995 01:25:12 GMT Message-Id: <3nk7do$95i@decaxp.harvard.edu> Hi! When sending to several addresses at once, sendmail (8.6.10 on irix 4.0.5F) logs an error message saying something like POSSIBLE ATTACK, newline in address. I'm using pine (3.91). Anything I should do about this? The actual log entry follows: [sorry it's >80 chars wide] oSYSLOG:Apr 19 20:09:05 slsiris sendmail[4980]: POSSIBLE ATTACK from macferrin@localhost: newline in string "Poker , David Peritz , Delia Graff , dhunter@mit.edu, Jason Abrevaya , Michael Glanzberg , Mike Zilles , Sanford Shieh , talayco-mt@hermes.bc.edu" Thanks! Kurtis MacFerrin macferrin@slsiris.harvard.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 26 03:36:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23584; Wed, 26 Apr 95 03:36:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06105; Wed, 26 Apr 95 03:25:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gateway1.DHL.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06099; Wed, 26 Apr 95 03:25:47 -0700 Received: from lhrsys1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM by gateway1.DHL.COM id aa15723; 26 Apr 95 3:25 PDT Received: from lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM by lhrsys1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM with SMTP (1.38.193.5/2.03-DSI) id AA16627; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 11:26:22 +0100 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 11:25:17 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM X-Sender: stares@lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.dhl.com To: Kurtis MacFerrin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "POSSIBLE ATTACK" messages from sendmail -- what gives? In-Reply-To: <3nk7do$95i@decaxp.harvard.edu> Message-Id: X-Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are my own and not my employers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 26 Apr 1995, Kurtis MacFerrin wrote: This is a known problem with pine/sendmail. Pine is doing nothing wrong - it is conforming to RFC822 in allowing continuation lines in fields as long as they are indented. This syslog comes about because versions of sendmail previous to 8.6.9 had a major security problem in it with newlines appearing in the From line. Therefore Eric Allman (who wrote sendmail), got sendmail to log this as a warning to sysadmins. This was seen as a problem in 8.6.9 and the code was changed slightly in 8.6.10 to try to stop these spurious messages. This did not always work so it was changed again. The message is nothing to be worried about but you still need to be vigilent as someone could use the security hole to "break" into your machine. The latest version of sendmail is 8.6.12 and I would suggest that you get this. This seems to be better at trapping some of these spurious warnings and also fixes anothe security problem with the use of the IDENT protocol. > > Hi! > When sending to several addresses at once, sendmail (8.6.10 on irix > 4.0.5F) logs an error message saying something like POSSIBLE ATTACK, newline > in address. I'm using pine (3.91). > Anything I should do about this? The actual log entry follows: > [sorry it's >80 chars wide] > > oSYSLOG:Apr 19 20:09:05 slsiris sendmail[4980]: POSSIBLE ATTACK from macferrin@localhost: newline in string "Poker , David Peritz , Delia Graff , dhunter@mit.edu, Jason Abrevaya , Michael Glanzberg , Mike Zilles , Sanford Shieh , talayco-mt@hermes.bc.edu" > > Thanks! > Kurtis MacFerrin macferrin@slsiris.harvard.edu > > > > ---- Stuart Tares Email : Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM Senior Network Analyst Voice : +44 181 742 4060 DHL Systems Ltd, CSG Europe & Africa Region From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 26 06:35:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29263; Wed, 26 Apr 95 06:35:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08772; Wed, 26 Apr 95 06:26:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08766; Wed, 26 Apr 95 06:26:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s474Q-00038SC; Wed, 26 Apr 95 06:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) Subject: Re: Pico limitations Date: 26 Apr 1995 09:22:36 GMT Message-Id: <3nl3cs$igd@news.primenet.com> References: <3nehs2$h23@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Matt Messina (messina@engin.umich.edu) wrote: >I realize that Pico is not the most robust editor ever written, nor is it >intended to be. But I like it anyway. It's almost as fast as vi and >much easier to use. >Inability to search for regexps is not a problem; it's just a missing >feature. But there are two problems with the editor that might screw up >people's files. >1) The "long lines wrapped" problem. When Pico reads in a file, if there > are lines longer than X, then the lines are split. Start PICO with the -w switch and it will turn off word wrap. E.g., pico -w index.html >2) Out of memory. If there is not enough memory, Pico will load the file > as much as it can, but will leave off the lines at the end that it > doesn't have room for. (I have only observed this once, on a very > heavily loaded machine with a 200K file.) I haven't encountered this (yet?) so can't speak to it. I agree, however, about this business of truncating. Similarly with line length. If the line, or file, is too long, the program truncates. Excuse me but the info is there for a reason, either don't load or leave it alone. bob brody@primenet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 26 07:17:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00809; Wed, 26 Apr 95 07:17:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09403; Wed, 26 Apr 95 07:05:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.utep.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09397; Wed, 26 Apr 95 07:05:36 -0700 Received: by mail.utep.edu (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA247035124; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 08:05:24 -0600 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 08:05:24 -0600 (MDT) From: Don Roberts To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Command line mailer In-Reply-To: <3nhout$o0g@gate.sinica.edu.tw> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can PC-Pine be used as a command line mailer? I need the ability to mail a file off to a remote user from inside a DOS batch script. Can Pine do this? If not, does anyone have any ideas on another program that can help me out? Thanks in advance for the help, -- Don R. -- Donald G. Roberts University of Texas at El Paso Assistant Director El Paso, TX 79968-0546 Multimedia Networking PHONE: (915) 747-5679 Information and Telecommunication Services FAX: (915) 747-5076 E-mail: roberts@utep.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 26 10:25:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10543; Wed, 26 Apr 95 10:25:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13813; Wed, 26 Apr 95 10:11:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13807; Wed, 26 Apr 95 10:11:30 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29968; Wed, 26 Apr 95 10:11:02 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 10:11:01 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Chris Owen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Auto-bounce in Pine? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The first thing is to check with your local support staff to see if any delivery filter programs are installed on your system. Then take a look at the Filtering Mail FAQ by Nancy McGough: ftp://ftp.ii.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering_mail_faq.txt |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 26 Apr 1995, Chris Owen wrote: > Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 02:09:46 +0100 (BST) > From: Chris Owen > To: David L Miller > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Auto-bounce in Pine? > > On Wed, 19 Apr 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > > Not in Pine, but you can do it with a delivery filter like procmail, > > devliver, filter, or mailagent... > > Hmm. How do I do this? > > - Chris > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 26 10:47:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11565; Wed, 26 Apr 95 10:47:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05237; Wed, 26 Apr 95 10:40:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05231; Wed, 26 Apr 95 10:40:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4B2y-00038QC; Wed, 26 Apr 95 10:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dsacks@primenet.com (Dennis Sacks) Subject: Pine compile under Solaris 2.3 Date: 26 Apr 1995 17:18:28 GMT Message-Id: <3nlv94$97i@news.primenet.com> Hi all, I am trying to compile Pine 3.91 under solaris 2.3 with no luck. In the actual pine directory I am running make like this: make -f makefile.sol cc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" -c addrbook.c -o addrbook.o "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 171: identifier redeclared: rename current : function(pointer to char, pointer to char) returning int previous: function(pointer to const char, pointer to const char) returning int : "/usr/include/stdio.h", line 112 "addrbook.c", line 3954: cannot recover from previous errors cc: acomp failed for addrbook.c make: *** [addrbook.o] Error 2 How do I get around this problem? Dennis dsacks@primenet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 26 13:39:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19042; Wed, 26 Apr 95 13:39:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08681; Wed, 26 Apr 95 13:17:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08675; Wed, 26 Apr 95 13:17:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4DUl-00038QC; Wed, 26 Apr 95 13:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com (Jason Haar) Subject: Re: "POSSIBLE ATTACK" messages from sendmail -- what gives? Date: 26 Apr 1995 08:17:03 GMT Message-Id: References: <3nk7do$95i@decaxp.harvard.edu> In article <3nk7do$95i@decaxp.harvard.edu> macferrin@slsiris2 wrote: > Hi! > When sending to several addresses at once, sendmail (8.6.10 on irix > 4.0.5F) logs an error message saying something like POSSIBLE ATTACK, newline > in address. I'm using pine (3.91). > Anything I should do about this? The actual log entry follows: > [sorry it's >80 chars wide] > oSYSLOG:Apr 19 20:09:05 slsiris sendmail[4980]: POSSIBLE ATTACK from macferrin@localhost: newline in string "Poker , David Peritz , Delia Graff , dhunter@mit.edu, Jason Abrevaya , Michael Glanzberg , Mike Zilles , Sanford Shieh , talayco-mt@hermes.bc.edu" Upgrade to sendmail-8.6.12 - it was altered to stop logging long addresses generated by the likes of pine. -- Cheers, Jason +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ | Jason Haar, European SysAdmin Phone: + 44 (256) 790577 | | Motorola Cellular Subscriber Fax: + 44 (256) 790519 | | Basingstoke, Hampshire | | RG21 1PL, ENGLAND Internet: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com | +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 26 14:18:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20715; Wed, 26 Apr 95 14:18:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19696; Wed, 26 Apr 95 14:11:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19690; Wed, 26 Apr 95 14:11:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4EKd-00038QC; Wed, 26 Apr 95 14:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gotthard Saghi-Szabo Subject: Display of sending person's name in folders Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 14:16:45 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, sometimes PINE displays messages with the To: xxxxxx part of the header in an open folder. E.g. In my open news folder I get 47 Apr 22 To: hungary@Glue.umd.edu Washington, D.C. - Free jazz concert (instead 47 Apr 22 Gotthard Saghi-Szabo ... ) And here is the letter's full header: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: mojo.eng.umd.edu!mineral.umd.edu!gotthard From: Gotthard Saghi-Szabo Newsgroups: soc.culture.magyar,bit.listserv.hungary Subject: Washington, D.C. - Free jazz concert Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 11:03:51 -0400 Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park, MD Lines: 17 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: mineral.umd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: gotthard@mineral.umd.edu To: hungary@Glue.umd.edu Xref: mojo.eng.umd.edu soc.culture.magyar:11123 bit.listserv.hungary:3739 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Please, tell me how to correct it. Sincerely, Gotthard -- URL : http://www.glue.umd.edu/~gotthard personal email : gotthard@Glue.umd.edu Hungarian-American list : hungary@Glue.umd.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 26 14:41:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21746; Wed, 26 Apr 95 14:41:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10205; Wed, 26 Apr 95 14:31:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10199; Wed, 26 Apr 95 14:31:15 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07671; Wed, 26 Apr 95 14:31:10 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 14:31:08 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Dennis Sacks Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine compile under Solaris 2.3 In-Reply-To: <3nlv94$97i@news.primenet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Add "-Dconst=" to the CFLAGS in pine/makefile.sol... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 26 Apr 1995, Dennis Sacks wrote: > Date: 26 Apr 1995 17:18:28 GMT > From: Dennis Sacks > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Pine compile under Solaris 2.3 > > Hi all, > > I am trying to compile Pine 3.91 under solaris 2.3 with no luck. > > In the actual pine directory I am running make like this: > > make -f makefile.sol > > cc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" -c addrbook.c -o addrbook.o > "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 171: identifier redeclared: rename > current : function(pointer to char, pointer to char) returning int > previous: function(pointer to const char, pointer to const char) returning int : "/usr/include/stdio.h", line 112 > "addrbook.c", line 3954: cannot recover from previous errors > cc: acomp failed for addrbook.c > make: *** [addrbook.o] Error 2 > > How do I get around this problem? > > Dennis > dsacks@primenet.com > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 26 15:04:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22792; Wed, 26 Apr 95 15:04:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10840; Wed, 26 Apr 95 14:56:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10834; Wed, 26 Apr 95 14:56:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4F2D-00038RC; Wed, 26 Apr 95 14:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ritz@ritz.mordor.com (Chris Mauritz) Subject: Re: "POSSIBLE ATTACK" messages from sendmail -- what gives? References: <3nk7do$95i@decaxp.harvard.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 08:50:44 GMT Message-Id: Kurtis MacFerrin (macferrin@slsiris2) wrote: : Hi! : When sending to several addresses at once, sendmail (8.6.10 on irix : 4.0.5F) logs an error message saying something like POSSIBLE ATTACK, newline : in address. I'm using pine (3.91). : Anything I should do about this? The actual log entry follows: : [sorry it's >80 chars wide] : oSYSLOG:Apr 19 20:09:05 slsiris sendmail[4980]: POSSIBLE ATTACK from macferrin@localhost: newline in string "Poker , David Peritz , Delia Graff , dhunter@mit.edu, Jason Abrevaya , Michael Glanzberg , Mike Zilles , Sanford Shieh , talayco-mt@hermes.bc.edu" It's probably one of your users running pine, which makes 8.6.10 unhappy with the To: header when the sender sends email to more than one recipient. Just get the latest version of sendmail (I believe we're up to 8.6.12?) and the problem goes away. :) Regards, Chris -- Christopher Mauritz | For info on internet access: ritz@mordor.com | finger/mail info@ritz.mordor.com OR Mordor International | http://www.mordor.com/ 201/212/718 internet access | Modem: (201)433-7343,(212)843-3451 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 26 15:05:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22845; Wed, 26 Apr 95 15:05:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20802; Wed, 26 Apr 95 14:55:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from thurgood.uscourts.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20796; Wed, 26 Apr 95 14:55:24 -0700 Received: from pc4std.ao.uscourts.gov by thurgood.uscourts.gov with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0s4F29-0002FbC; Wed, 26 Apr 95 17:54 EDT Received: from dgstd.ao.uscourts.gov by pc4std.ao.uscourts.gov with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #8) id m0s4F3H-0000ElC; Wed, 26 Apr 95 17:55 EDT Received: by dgstd.ao.uscourts.gov (Smail3.1.28.1 #11) id m0s4F2K-0007LYC; Wed, 26 Apr 95 17:54 EDT Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 17:54:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "J. Lynn Hilton" To: Aladdin Khamis Cc: Carl Reimann , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: forcing mail check In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-2022-JP-2 The 2.5 minute time frame is set by a configuration variable at compile time. In file pine/osdep/os-.h: /*--------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ #define NEW_MAIL_TIME (150) /* How often to check for new mail. There's some expense in doing this so it shouldn't be done too frequently. */ /*--------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ Lynn jlh@ao.uscourts.gov or lhilton@concept.com +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | J. Lynn Hilton | Home where the AViiONs roam | | Concept Automation Services, Inc. | | | AOUSC, One Columbus Circle, N.E. | Voice: 202-273-2413 | | Washington, DC 20544 | FAX: 202-273-2356 | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ On Wed, 26 Apr 1995, Aladdin Khamis wrote: > On Tue, 25 Apr 1995, Carl Reimann wrote: > > > Is there any way to force a mail check? I don't like having to quit Pine > > and start it up again repeatedly when I am waiting for mail to arrive. > > > > Carl > > > > There are currently two ways to force a new mail check. > * Press `Ctrl-L' (Refresh Display). > * At the last message in a folder, press 'N' 4-5 times. > > Also, you can enable-mail-check-cue in your setup/config so pine will > display an astrik (*) in your upper left corner whenever pine is checking > for new e-mail. Something else you would like to know is that pine > checks for new mail every 2.5 minutes, you might be able to change that, > but I don't know how to do that yet. > > >--|\/\/\/|------------------------------------ > >| | | | E-mail: khamis@galtronics.co.il | Aladdin Khamis > >| | (o)(o) '--/ /----------------------------- > >| C _) // | Information Systems Department > >| | ,___| / | Galtronics Ltd. > >---| /-------------------- P.O.Box 1589 Tiberias 14115 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 26 15:33:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24227; Wed, 26 Apr 95 15:33:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21400; Wed, 26 Apr 95 15:21:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21394; Wed, 26 Apr 95 15:21:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4FQs-00038QC; Wed, 26 Apr 95 15:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tchang@netmiami.com (T. Chang) Subject: SCO - No message text Date: 25 Apr 1995 02:19:32 GMT Message-Id: <3nhm7k$keo@ns1.netmiami.com> I'm having problems with my pine -- sometimes when my INBOX gets large (over 50 pieces) I start seeing "[ No message text ]" in the index. When I read it, it's sometimes a duplicate or piece of an existing mail. I can try to delete it but the "D" doesn't show. When I exit and get back into pine, any mail deleted is still there, plus duplicates at the end, with a flag of "N" for new. It just gets worse with each exit and re-entry with more duplicates. I have to use UNIX mail, and sometimes at the latest mail at the top I see how junk "#$%^#$%' type characters. When I use 'd' , pine then restores some sanity. Has anyone see this? Even if you have or have not, can someone offer some advice on this? Thanks in advance. -- Tim tchang@netmiami.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- NetMiami Internet offers low-cost dialup & SLIP access at flat rates. Call (305) 554-9221 modem or 554-4463 office Trial demo account is available. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 26 15:55:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25379; Wed, 26 Apr 95 15:55:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12041; Wed, 26 Apr 95 15:46:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12033; Wed, 26 Apr 95 15:46:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4Fpv-00038QC; Wed, 26 Apr 95 15:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: d.j.evans@reading.ac.uk (David J. Evans) Subject: Addressbook problems Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 17:41:28 +0100 Message-Id: I'm trying to share an address book between PINE 3.91 and another mail package (ECSmail). I can access the global address book, but can't paste the entries into the T0: (or any other fields) in PINE. I can ^T and get the full address book listing, so the path and read access seems OK, but when I type E (exitselect) or press return the address isn't pasted. Needless to say the aliases don't work either .... ! It's not quelling address checking because if I send a message I'm told that there are no recipients ...... I should add that it appears specific to my username - everything works fine from the other couple I've tried ! Any ideas ? Replies by e-mail if possible, unless this is of sufficient importance for general consumption. Thanks in advance. David -- David J. Evans Tel. (44) 01734 318893 Fax. (44) 01734 750140 e-mail d.j.evans@reading.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 26 18:38:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01865; Wed, 26 Apr 95 18:38:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25629; Wed, 26 Apr 95 18:33:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25623; Wed, 26 Apr 95 18:33:21 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 27 Apr 95 09:31:57 -0800 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 09:31:56 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: David L Miller Cc: Dennis Sacks , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine compile under Solaris 2.3 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 26 Apr 1995, David L Miller wrote: > Add "-Dconst=" to the CFLAGS in pine/makefile.sol... And also make sure that /usr/opt/SUNWspro/bin appears *before* /usr/ucb in your PATH. Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 26 19:31:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02890; Wed, 26 Apr 95 19:31:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26399; Wed, 26 Apr 95 19:26:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26393; Wed, 26 Apr 95 19:26:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4JFl-00038QC; Wed, 26 Apr 95 19:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: noam@brachot.jct.ac.il (Noam Ben Yochanan) Subject: Leaving read messages in INBOX Message-Id: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 10:45:29 GMT Hello all, In elm it's possible to leave read messages in the incomming mail file, meaning I can leave a message there until I deal with it. Pine doesn't seem to support this option. It considers every read message as deleted ('D') when exiting. This really sucks, pardon the expression. I got around it by undeleting all the messages I want to keep, expunging all the ones I want to delete and then exiting. This is of course error prone (I made the error today :-( ) and inelegant. Isn't there any way I can just tell the system to treat deleted/saved massges in a different maner than read messages? i.e. NEVER to have 'D' appear next to a message that was read but not deleted or saved? maybe an option in .pinerc I missed or misunderstud? Please reply by e-mail. TIA, Noam Ben Yochanan Jerusalem College of Technology noam@brachot.jct.ac.il -- _______________________________________________________________________________ ____________________ | "When all else fails - __ _ ___ ___ __ __ | Noam Ben Yochanan | | read the instructions" | | || _ || _ || | | | noam@sun.jct.ac.il | | - Murphie's book of laws |_|__||___||_|_||_|_|_| |____________________| | _______________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 26 20:14:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04015; Wed, 26 Apr 95 20:14:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16322; Wed, 26 Apr 95 20:06:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16316; Wed, 26 Apr 95 20:06:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4Jtp-00038QC; Wed, 26 Apr 95 20:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: smudge@u.washington.edu (Rachel Hill) Subject: Re: Silly question Date: 27 Apr 1995 02:26:38 GMT Message-Id: <3nmvcu$kd3@nntp1.u.washington.edu> References: <3nlglq$igb@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> ijh1000@cam.ac.uk (Isaac Hepworth) writes: >Silly question, but the right place to put it I think : >Why is pine called pine? pine is the mailer that followed elm (and I think elm was just short for ELectronic Mail), and pine originally stood for "Pine Is Nearly Elm." Later, as the features changed sufficiently, it came to stand for "Pine Is Not Elm." I hate it that I know these things... -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 26 21:01:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04988; Wed, 26 Apr 95 21:01:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27841; Wed, 26 Apr 95 20:56:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27835; Wed, 26 Apr 95 20:56:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4Keh-00038QC; Wed, 26 Apr 95 20:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: deleting in PICO Date: 23 Apr 1995 05:53:01 GMT Message-Id: <3ncpvt$bqi@grape.epix.net> References: <3nbvrc$d14@news4.primenet.com> Bob Brody (brody@primenet.com) wrote: : When pressing the Del key (and IBM/DOS computer) while in PICO, the : character immediately before the cursor is deleted. Is there a : configuration setting that would have it delete the character where the : cursor sits rather than the character before it? Yeah, but I think what you're really doin' is working on a PC connected to an internet server, which is running unix, and the unix keyboard deletes the character before the cursor, you're not in DOS at that point. Your PC is not working as a computer really, just as a terminal. Yes you can re-map it, but it's probably simpler just to learn a few basic unix commands. Only my 895 cents worth. BYE. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 26 21:30:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05658; Wed, 26 Apr 95 21:30:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17245; Wed, 26 Apr 95 21:26:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17239; Wed, 26 Apr 95 21:26:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4LAA-00038QC; Wed, 26 Apr 95 21:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Anfuso Subject: Re: forcing mail check Date: 26 Apr 1995 13:39:13 GMT Message-Id: <3nlie1$iuh@nntp.interaccess.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit khamis@aviion.galtronics.co.il (Aladdin Khamis) wrote: >checks for new mail every 2.5 minutes, you might be able to change that, >but I don't know how to do that yet. You can't change it. Personally I think the pc-pine version should allow this to be modified. Most other winsock mail programs do, and I haven't heard any ISPs complain about network overload. Maybe edu and other sites are different. John. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 01:13:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10776; Thu, 27 Apr 95 01:13:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19567; Thu, 27 Apr 95 01:03:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19552; Thu, 27 Apr 95 01:03:03 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 27 Apr 1995 08:59:52 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA16040; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 09:03:34 +0100 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 09:03:33 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: forcing mail check In-Reply-To: <3nlie1$iuh@nntp.interaccess.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Of *course* it can be changed! It's only a program compiled from source code files. Change the appropriate magic number in the source file (many others have given the name of the relevant file elsewhere in other messages) and recompile. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On 26 Apr 1995, John Anfuso wrote: > khamis@aviion.galtronics.co.il (Aladdin Khamis) wrote: > > >checks for new mail every 2.5 minutes, you might be able to change that, > >but I don't know how to do that yet. > > You can't change it. Personally I think the pc-pine version should allow > this to be modified. Most other winsock mail programs do, and I haven't > heard any ISPs complain about network overload. Maybe edu and other > sites are different. > > John. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 01:50:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11839; Thu, 27 Apr 95 01:50:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20138; Thu, 27 Apr 95 01:46:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20132; Thu, 27 Apr 95 01:45:57 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 27 Apr 95 16:44:41 -0800 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 16:44:40 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: forcing mail check In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 27 Apr 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Of *course* it can be changed! It's only a program compiled from source > code files. Change the appropriate magic number in the source file (many > others have given the name of the relevant file elsewhere in other > messages) and recompile. The responder stated: > > You can't change it. Personally I think the pc-pine version should allow > > this to be modified. Most other winsock mail programs do, and I haven't > > heard any ISPs complain about network overload. Maybe edu and other > > sites are different. So, I'm lead to believe he is speaking about pc-pine. I've not seen the source of pc-pine on ftp.cac.washington.edu so I suspect it is not an easy task to recompile. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 03:10:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13394; Thu, 27 Apr 95 03:10:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02934; Thu, 27 Apr 95 02:57:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02928; Thu, 27 Apr 95 02:57:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4QJw-00038QC; Thu, 27 Apr 95 02:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: DaveDave@tamu.edu Subject: Re: Composer crashes Pine Message-Id: <3nj2a6$a48@news.tamu.edu> Date: 25 Apr 1995 14:51:50 GMT References: - Rene Grothmann writes: >I am still having occasional long delays and sometimes even crashes >when composing a message. Maybe someon has had the same problem and >found a solution. > >I am using Pine 3.90 on a IBM AIX 3.1. > >Rene > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 03:39:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14103; Thu, 27 Apr 95 03:39:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20979; Thu, 27 Apr 95 03:17:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20973; Thu, 27 Apr 95 03:17:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4Qaa-00038QC; Thu, 27 Apr 95 03:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mmuchala@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Madhu Muchalambkar) Subject: Re: Silly question Date: 26 Apr 1995 13:44:15 GMT Message-Id: <3nlinf$p2u@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> References: <3nlglq$igb@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Isaac Hepworth (ijh1000@cam.ac.uk) wrote: : Silly question, but the right place to put it I think : : Why is pine called pine? : -- : Isaac Hepworth ijh1000@cam.ac.uk : Computer Representative, Corpus Christi College I think they are following the convention of naming the MUA after street names. elm, pine - what next? spruce, walnut, chestnut...... Madhu -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Madhu P. Muchalambkar "Life is under no obligation Sys Admin, Development Systems to give us what we expect!" Alcatel Data Networks - Margeret Mitchell Reston, VA 22096 . USA Phone:703/689-6280(W) 476-0469 (H) FAX :703/689-7077 Internet:madhu@telenet.com mmuchala@astro.ocis.temple.edu #include -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 03:51:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14345; Thu, 27 Apr 95 03:51:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21178; Thu, 27 Apr 95 03:35:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21168; Thu, 27 Apr 95 03:35:41 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 27 Apr 1995 11:32:27 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id LAA28063; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 11:36:09 +0100 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 11:36:09 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: forcing mail check Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII [I accidentally deleted the message I wanted to reply to, but...] Ed Greshko commented that he'd never seen the PC-Pine source code available at Washington, so presumed it wasn't possible for us Mere Mortals to build it... I'd always assumed that the various ".dos" and ".win" files, in particular "makefile.win" used by a "build win" would produce you a PC-Pine from the same distribution kit as as "normal" UNIX Pine. Perhaps I was wrong in assuming this? Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 03:51:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14347; Thu, 27 Apr 95 03:51:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21167; Thu, 27 Apr 95 03:35:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21161; Thu, 27 Apr 95 03:35:26 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 27 Apr 1995 11:32:11 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id LAA28048; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 11:35:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 11:35:41 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Noam Ben Yochanan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Leaving read messages in INBOX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ummm... I think you're making a wrong assumption, or using Pine wrongly... Just reading a message in Pine does NOT mark it with a "D" in the Message Index indicating it should be deleted. A message only gets marked as "D" if you tell it to be using the D command, or save the message into another folder (which implies the original should be marked "D"). Are you using the D command to move between messages? If so, try using N (Next) instead. It may also be that your systems administrator (or yourself) has set the "read-message-folder" item and "auto-move-read-msgs" feature in Pine's Setup Configuration screen. This automatically moves messages you have read out of the INBOX into the nominated folder as you quit Pine. Yes, the messages are deleted from the INBOX, but only because they have been copied elsewhere; you can get to them again by opening that folder. This is NOT the default behaviour, but must be explicitly selected either by individuals or globally by the System Administrator, and is quite useful for "encouraging" people to waste (sorry! *use*) their own disk storage for all those "essential" mail messages rather than the (usually un-quota'd) mail delivery area. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On Wed, 26 Apr 1995, Noam Ben Yochanan wrote: > Hello all, > > In elm it's possible to leave read messages in the incomming mail file, > meaning I can leave a message there until I deal with it. Pine doesn't seem > to support this option. It considers every read message as deleted ('D') when > exiting. This really sucks, pardon the expression. I got around it by > undeleting all the messages I want to keep, expunging all the ones I want to > delete and then exiting. This is of course error prone (I made the error > today :-( ) and inelegant. > Isn't there any way I can just tell the system to treat deleted/saved massges > in a different maner than read messages? i.e. NEVER to have 'D' appear next > to a message that was read but not deleted or saved? maybe an option in > .pinerc I missed or misunderstud? > > Please reply by e-mail. > > TIA, > > Noam Ben Yochanan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 04:05:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15140; Thu, 27 Apr 95 04:05:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21362; Thu, 27 Apr 95 03:57:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21356; Thu, 27 Apr 95 03:57:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4RFo-00038QC; Thu, 27 Apr 95 03:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Pico limitations Date: 24 Apr 1995 02:34:29 GMT Message-Id: <3nf2nl$jeg@grape.epix.net> References: <3nehs2$h23@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Matt Messina (messina@engin.umich.edu) wrote: : I realize that Pico is not the most robust editor ever written, nor is it : intended to be. But I like it anyway. It's almost as fast as vi and : much easier to use. AGREED 1000% : Inability to search for regexps is not a problem; it's just a missing : feature. But there are two problems with the editor that might screw up : people's files. : 1) The "long lines wrapped" problem. When Pico reads in a file, if there : are lines longer than X, then the lines are split. Well now, what other choices are there?? It could run them off the page or truncate them. The solution is simple ... set your terminal to word wrap OUTGOING text at about 70 columns (72 max), so that when someone includes all or part of your message in the reply, and adds the : or the > or the # in front, it's still less than 80 columns. Same thing occurs when you ^R read in files. If the file you're reading in is more than 80 columns, don't blame pico, reformat it first, then read it in. Now I suspect that when I try to post this, I'm gonna get a message that the posting exceeds 80 columns, 'cause your posting appears to be quite wide, but we'll see. BYE. DearOldDad /~~~/~~~/~~~/\ /\/\ /\ / / / / \/\/ POCONO MTNS PA DearOldDad:The older I get, the smarter I used to be./ \/\jgvd@epix.net Jonathan:Kids are people too; Have guitar, will travel.\ \/\ \ /\ \ Thought for the day: / / / / / / \/ \ \/ \/\ None:My mind is temporarily out of order. /___/___/___/___/____\/____\_\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 04:08:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15322; Thu, 27 Apr 95 04:08:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03613; Thu, 27 Apr 95 03:47:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03607; Thu, 27 Apr 95 03:47:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4R3n-00038QC; Thu, 27 Apr 95 03:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: julie@soest.hawaii.edu (Julie Jirikowic,HIG366,67108,) Subject: Security message Message-Id: Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 20:42:53 GMT POSSIBLE ATTACK from julie@localhost: newline in string "Julie Jirikowic" , and a list of addresses. It gets generated when Pine puts in a newline between users. Any ideas? Thanks --- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Julie Jirikowic School of Ocean and Earth Science and Technology University of Hawaii julie@mokuahi.soest.hawaii.edu Acid rain killed the forests. They appointed a committee to discuss it. The ozone layer was disappearing. They said it was a minor problem to be dealt with in time. They confused the power of words over people with the power of words over matter--which is nonexistent. -Marge Piercy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 04:08:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15353; Thu, 27 Apr 95 04:08:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03727; Thu, 27 Apr 95 03:57:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03721; Thu, 27 Apr 95 03:57:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4RGS-00038RC; Thu, 27 Apr 95 03:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Pico limitations Date: 24 Apr 1995 02:45:13 GMT Message-Id: <3nf3bp$jeg@grape.epix.net> References: <3nehs2$h23@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <3nf2nl$jeg@grape.epix.net> Jonathan and DearOldDad (jgvd@news.epix.net) wrote: in part ... : Now I suspect that when I try to post this, I'm gonna get a : message that the posting exceeds 80 columns, 'cause your posting appears : to be quite wide, but we'll see. BYE. Nope, it didn't ... so Matt apparently has his act together, now if everyone else would set the linewidth to a lower number, we could all live in peace and harmony and reply to one another, forever and ever, Amen. BYE again. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 04:41:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15936; Thu, 27 Apr 95 04:41:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21966; Thu, 27 Apr 95 04:32:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21960; Thu, 27 Apr 95 04:32:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4Rnc-00038QC; Thu, 27 Apr 95 04:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ijh1000@cam.ac.uk (Isaac Hepworth) Subject: Silly question Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 14:09:10 +100 Message-Id: <3nlglq$igb@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Silly question, but the right place to put it I think : Why is pine called pine? -- Isaac Hepworth ijh1000@cam.ac.uk Computer Representative, Corpus Christi College From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 05:38:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17510; Thu, 27 Apr 95 05:38:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04521; Thu, 27 Apr 95 04:38:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04509; Thu, 27 Apr 95 04:37:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4Rru-00038QC; Thu, 27 Apr 95 04:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FAQ Editor Subject: Signature, Finger, & Customized Headers FAQ Date: 26 Apr 1995 13:10:13 GMT Message-Id: Archive-name: signature_finger_faq Posting-frequency: approximately monthly Last-modified: 25 April 1995 Current hypertext version: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/signature_finger_faq/faq.html ___ ___ L_|_ _|_J ( -O> Subject: 0.0 Preliminaries This article describes these ways you can tell people on the Internet more about yourself: * Your signature file which can be automatically appended to your mail and news messages. * Your finger information which is displayed when people finger you. * Your customized header lines, such as Organization, From, and Reply-To, which are part of your mail and news messages. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Apr 1995 00:00:10 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.1 Getting the Latest Version of this FAQ If this FAQ is over a couple months old, there may be an updated version. Please get the latest hypertext or plain text version from one of the places listed below. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Apr 1995 00:00:10 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... ... 0.1.1 Hypertext The best way to read this FAQ (and most other FAQs) is to view the hypertext version using a Web browser such as Cello, Lynx, Mosaic, Netscape, or WinWeb. This will allow you to easily jump: * between subjects in the FAQ * to any Uniform Resource Locator (URL) in the FAQ * to an Internet Request For Comments document (RFC) * to some manual pages This, and all FAQs that are crossposted to news.answers, are available at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/top.html This particular FAQ is at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/signature_finger_faq/faq.html If you don't want to type that long URL, you can go to Infinite Ink's Sample Writings Page and jump to it from there: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/writings.html ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... ... 0.1.2 Plain Text The plain text version of this FAQ is regularly posted to these newsgroups: news.newusers.questions comp.mail.misc alt.internet.services news.software.readers comp.mail.pine alt.answers news.software.nn comp.mail.elm news.answers comp.unix.questions comp.answers It's in digest format which means that you may be able to use your newsreader to easily move between digest items (e.g., nn uses G% to burst a digest and trn uses ^G to jump to the next digest item). The plain text version is also available through... A Link on Infinite Ink's Sample Writings Page: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/writings.html Anonymous FTP: ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/signature_finger_faq.txt ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/signature_finger_faq Email: Send mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu containing the following: send usenet/news.answers/signature_finger_faq UUCP: uunet!/archive/usenet/news.answers/signature_finger_faq Hard Copy: A printed version of this FAQ is in Chapter 17 of the book "Internet Secrets" by John R. Levine and Carol Baroudi; published 1995 by IDG Books; ISBN 1-56884-452-2. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Apr 1995 00:00:20 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.2 Terminology Term Meaning ==== ======= browser Web browser FQDN or fqdn Fully qualified domain name mailer or MUA Mail user agent such as pine or elm MTA Mail transport agent such as sendmail or smail pico PIne COmposer - a user friendly editor pico FileName Use pico to edit file named `FileName' pico -w FileName Use pico with autowrap turned off to edit `FileName' mail reader Mailer, newsreader, or Web browser that can read mail folders regular expression Text that can include "wild cards" (such as . to match any single character); used for searching URL Uniform Resource Locator - address used by Web browsers ^X Press the Ctrl key and then, while holding down the Ctrl key, press the X key. Note that often the the lower case letter works, .e.g, you can use either ^x and ^X ~ or $HOME Your home directory. You can always get to your home directory by typing: cd ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... 0.3 Notation Notation What you type ======== ============= TextName replace with appropriate text replace with appropriate text without the angle brackets `text' text without the smart single quotes ``text'' text without the smart double quotes "text" "text" including the double quotes 'text' 'text' including the single quotes ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 1.0 Setting up Your Signature Q: How can I have a signature automatically appended to my news articles and mail messages? A: The answer depends on your newsreader and mailer but the procedure below works for many Unix newsreaders and mailers. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... 1.1 General Unix Instructions Type... In order to... ======= ============== cd Change to your home directory (i.e., $HOME or ~) pico .signature Use the pico editor to create a .signature file. (Replace "pico" with another editor if you like.) Note that most systems require your sig to be <= 4 lines. And it's good netiquette to make it as short as possible. In Pico use ^x to exit and answer y when asked if you want to save your changes. chmod 644 .signature Make .signature readable by all. chmod a+x . Make home directory searchable by all. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... 1.2 Specific Mailer & Newsreader Instructions For some newsreaders and mailers the above is all you need to do to set up your signature. For example the default behaviour of pine(1), tin(1), and the rn family - rn(1), trn(1), strn(1), & Pnews(1) - is to automatically append ~/.signature, if it exists. To check that it's working, follow the instruction in "1.3 Testing Your Signature." If you use Elm, Mail, SUN OpenWindows Mailtool, Emacs Mail Mode, MH, NN, or GNUS you need to follow the additional instructions described below. If you use Pine, you can change it's default signature behaviour by following the instructions below. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... ... 1.2.1 Pine Followup-To: comp.mail.pine Pine automatically appends ~/.signature (if it exists) to your messages. Many people like to set the signature-at-bottom variable which will put your signature below both your message and the message you are replying to (if you've included it). Note that if you are forwarding a message your signature will be put below the message that you write but above the forwarded message. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... ... ..... 1.2.1.1 Pine 3.90 and Later Followup-To: comp.mail.pine Pine automatically appends ~/.signature (if it exists) to your messages. To change Pine's signature features: 1. From the Main Menu type S for Setup 2. Type C for Configuration 3. To change the value of the signature-at-bottom feature: a) Spacebar and arrow down to the signature-at-bottom variable b) Type X to set/unset this variable. 4. To change the name of your signature file: a) Arrow down to the signature-file line b) Type C for Change Value c) Type the path and name of the file you want to use for your signature. Note that ~ can be used for your $HOME directory. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... ... ..... 1.2.1.2 Pine 3.89 and Earlier Followup-To: comp.mail.pine Pine automatically appends ~/.signature (if it exists) to your messages. To change Pine's signature features in Pine 3.89 (and earlier versions) you need to edit your ~/.pinerc file directly. Type... In order to... ======= ============== cd Change to your home directory (i.e., $HOME or ~) pico .pinerc Use the pico editor to edit your .pinerc file. ^w Search for . . . feature-list . . . ``feature-list'' Edit your .pinerc so that it contains this line: feature-list=signature-at-bottom If you want more than one feature in your feature-list then they need to be comma separated like this: feature-list=old-growth, signature-at-bottom If you want to use a file other than ~/.signature for your signature edit the following line: signature-file= ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... ... 1.2.2 Elm Followup-To: comp.mail.elm In addition to the basic signature instructions in 1.1 above, users of Elm need to edit their ~/.elm/elmrc file so that it contains the following: signature = ~/.signature sigdashes = ON Remember to delete any # characters before any variables you want to set. The defaults are indicated in comment lines starting with ###. NOTE ==== The signature variable sets both the localsignature and remotesignature variables. If you want to have a different signature for local mail (i.e., addresses that don't contain a ! or @) then you can use the localsignature and remotesignature variables instead of the signature variable. ------------------------------ From: Jym Dyer Subject: ... ... 1.2.3 Mail Followup-To: comp.mail.misc =o= Regular Unix "Mail" and "mail" don't have an automatic signature mechanism. Many people who normally use a more deluxe mail utility occasionally find themselves resorting to using one of these, in which case all you need to know is this command: ~r $HOME/.signature This simply tells Mail to include the text of the your signature file. =o= If you use Mail on a regular basis you may want to use the semi-automatic signature feature. When you're done typing your message, you append a signature with this command: ~a =o= In order for this to work, though, you need to set the "sign" mail variable. There are two ways to implement this variable. The first is to set it in a $HOME/.mailrc file with a command like this: set sign="Jym Dyer " If your signature is more than one line long, you can use the C language string syntax, as in these examples: set sign="Jym Dyer\n" -or- set sign="Jym Dyer\ \n" =o= The disadvantage of doing this in your .mailrc file is that you now have to maintain the text of your signature in two places. Another approach that avoids this problem is to set "sign" as an environment variable in your shell startup script. For a Bourne-compatible shell, this is done with this command: sign="`cat $HOME/.signature`" export sign For a C-shell, do this: setenv sign "`cat $HOME/.signature`" ------------------------------ From: Jochen Bern Subject: ... ... 1.2.4 SUN OpenWindows Mailtool The mailtool of SUNs OpenWindows lacks numerous Things, including the Ability to sign Mails. However, most OW Users stick with mailtool because of the Ability to use "Attachments" to send around Files. A simple Replacement for Signatures is to add a "Template" (click on Edit -> Properties, select Category "Template" in the Properties Window, and give Name and File as desired). Disadvantage: You have to edit in every Signature by Hand, though. A better Approach is to use a "set sendmail=..." Line in your ~/.mailrc. Mails being sent out will be handed over to the Executable named there instead of the Mail Delivery Subsystem. You can easily plug in a simple Program to sign your Mails there. However, be warned that all too simple Siggers aren't aware of the abovementioned Attachments, so the Signature will end up in the last Attachment instead of the Mail Text. Information about a Sigger that handles mail containing attachments correctly can be obtained from Jochen Berg by sending email to: mailtool-sig@ti.uni-trier.de ------------------------------ From: Jym Dyer Subject: ... ... 1.2.5 Emacs Mail Mode =o= Emacs Mail Mode is usually invoked with the "mail" or "mail-other-window" commands (bound, respectively, to the "C-x m" and "C-x 4 m" keys by default). It is also invoked from various Emacs mail and news packages. =o= Mail Mode provides a "mail-signature" command to append the contents of your signature file to the end of your mail message. This command is bound to "C-c C-w" by default, so to insert the signature before mailing, simply type "C-c "C-w". =o= If you'd prefer to have your signature automatically appended to the end of your mail message, the "mail-signature" command can be put into your "mail-setup-hook" variable in your $HOME/.emacs file, as in this example: (setq mail-setup-hook (function (lambda () (mail-signature) ))) This will put the signature in your mail message buffer. Instructions for Version 19 by Richard Kasperowski and Matt Kaufmann ==================================================================== In emacs 19, I use: (setq mail-signature t) There is a problem with my expression with respect posting to USENET via GNUS. GNUS automatically appends .signature to the post when it There is a problem with my expression with respect posting to USENET via GNUS. GNUS automatically appends .signature to the post when it is sent out. With (setq mail-signature t), .signature is appended to the end of the emacs buffer in which you edit your post. When you send-out the post, another .signature is appended to the end. You end up with two .signatures on your USENET posts. If you prefer, you can use the following minor modification of the version 18 form shown above: (setq mail-setup-hook (function (lambda () (mail-signature nil) ))) ------------------------------ From: Jym Dyer Subject: ... ... 1.2.6 MH and Emacs mh-e Followup-To: comp.mail.mh =o= MH doesn't have an automatic signature mechanism, but it is so configurable that there are a number of different ways to implement one. Check the periodic "MH Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) with Answers" posting for details. =o= CAVEAT: If you use the environment variable SIGNATURE to point to your signature file, MH will use it not as a signature, but as your "fullname". Even worse, if your version of MH was built with the "UCI" option and you *don't* use the environment variable SIGNATURE to point to another file, MH will use the $HOME/.signature file for this purpose! To see if your version of MH has this behavior, enter this command: % send -help And look for the string "[UCI]" in the output. =o= There's an Emacs interface to MH, called MH-E. It has its own signature mechanism, which is invoked with the "mh-insert- signature" command (bound to the "C-c C-s" keys by default). =o= This will insert the file $HOME/.signature file by default. If your signature file has another name (e.g., to avoid its being used by an MH build with the "UCI" option), you can set the "mh-signature-file-name" variable to refer to a different file. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... ... 1.2.7 NN Followup-To: news.software.nn In addition to the basic signature instructions in 1.1 above, users of NN need to edit their ~/.nn/init file so that it contains the following: set query-signature off set append-signature-mail on set append-signature-post off Note that the reason that you need to `set append-signature-post off' is that the news posting software (usually inews) automatically appends ~/.signature if it exists. If you `set append-signature-post on' then both nn and inews append your sig and you'll send out two identical sigs every time. ------------------------------ From: Mike Northam Subject: ... ... 1.2.8 GNUS Followup-To: gnu.emacs.gnus (Does anyone know Mike Northam's current email address?) In addition to the basic signature instructions in 1.1 above, users of GNUS should verify that the value of the variable gnus-signature-file points to the right place. If you're in emacs, you can do so by evaluating the following expression: gnus-signature-file ^ put your cursor here and type C-x C-e You should see "~/.signature" in the echo area. If not, edit your $HOME/.emacs file and add the following: (setq gnus-signature-file "~/.signature")) Then load your $HOME/.emacs file or merely restart emacs and the variable should be set correctly. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... 1.3 Testing Your Signature After you've set everything up, use your mailer to mail a test message to yourself, and your newsreader or news poster (such as nnpost or Pnews) to post an article to a test newsgroup (use a local newsgroup and Distribution set to `local' to save bandwidth). Note that with many newsreaders and mailers you will not see your signature while you are composing a message - it will be automaticlally appended when you send the message. Note also that many systems add a line that contains `-- ' to the top of your sig. This is used by programs that automatically deal with mail or news to identify the start of the signature. If you have a problem with your sig see the next section 1.4 on Troubleshooting. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... 1.4 Troubleshooting Your Signature On many systems your .signature (and .plan, .project, and .forward) needs to be world readable and your home directory needs to be world "executable" (which means the world can go into that directory). To check these settings: Type... In order to... ------- -------------- cd Go to your home directory. ls -l .filename Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r-- (Replace `.filename' with the appropriate file name.) ls -ld . Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each (i.e., drwx--x--x, drwxr-xr-x, drwxr-x--x, drwx--xr-x are each acceptable.) If these aren't set correctly repeat the steps given in 1.1 above for setting up your .signature. If you are still having problems read the man pages for your newsreader, news poster, or mailer and search for the string ``signature''. There may be a variable you need to set in order for the ~/.signature to be appended. Type... In order to... ------- -------------- man CommandName |less Open man pages for CommandName (elm, pine, nn, tin trn, Pnews, etc.) and pipe through less. If your system doesn't have less replace it with "more". /signature Search for first occurrence of "signature". n Search for next occurrence of "signature". Repeat the search until you find the appropriate section of the manual. u Page up half a screen. (This works in less but not in more.) [Space] Page down a screen. (This works in both less and more.) For more information on reading manual pages see the man(1), less(1), and/or more(1) man pages. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.0 Finger Finger is an Internet tool that you can use to find out information about people all over the Net. As long as a person's Internet host is running the finger daemon (fingerd), you will be able to retrieve information using the finger command. This section tells you how to finger others, how to customize your finger information, and how you may be able to track who fingers you (and why finger tracking is probably not worth doing). ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... 2.1 How to Finger This section describes how to finger using the Unix command line commands or using a Web browser. You can use finger to find out a person's full name, the shell they use, and sometimes you can find out when the last time he or she was logged in. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... ... 2.1.1 Unix Finger Command To finger someone finger UserID@fully.qualified.domain.name On some systems finger is linked to f so the following also works: f UserID@fqdn Finger displays different information on different systems. Often it will display your full name, your default shell, when your were last logged on, and your ~/.plan and ~/.project files. If you finger someone and the display takes more than one page you can pipe the output through less (or more if you don't have less). For example to find out about Halcyon, my Internet service provider, type: finger info@halcyon.com |less Finger can also be used to display information about groups of people. For example: finger john@random.fqdn |less Ths will display finger information about everyone with ``john'' in their name on random.fqdn. You can get a short listing for each person by using: finger -q john@random.fqdn |less For technical details about the finger protocol see RFC1288. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... ... 2.1.2 Using a Web Browser to Finger In addition to using the finger or f command you can finger people through a Web browser. The following is a form that Doug Stevenson created: http://www-bprc.mps.ohio-state.edu/cgi-bin/finger.pl You can finger a specific user with a syntax like this: http://www-bprc.mps.ohio-state.edu/cgi-bin/finger.pl?doug%2B@osu.edu With Doug's finger gateway, if the .plan contains some HTML, it will be presented as hypertext, e.g: Go to Infinite Ink's Home Page. Marc VanHeyningen has a Web finger gateway that you can find out about at: http://www.cs.indiana.edu/finger/gateway To use it you use this syntax: http://www.cs.indiana.edu/finger/fully.qualified.domain.name/userid/w For example, to finger Marc, type: http://www.cs.indiana.edu/finger/cs.indiana.edu/mvanheyn/w With Marc's finger gateway, if an URL in a .plan uses the syntax, described in 3.1 below, it will be a link, e.g.: You can also use this URL: gopher://fully.qualified.domain.name:79/0userid ^ Note: 0 precedes the userid For example you can finger my Internet service provider with this URL: gopher://halcyon.com:79/0info ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... ... 2.1.3 Fingering Yourself To finger yourself by type the following at your Unix prompt. finger YourUserID For a different view of your finger information, and also to see who else is currently logged in, type: finger To ensure that people from other systems can finger you should ask someone who's not on your system to finger you too. It is possible for you to simulate fingering yourself from another machine (another.fqdn) by doing this: finger YourUserID@your.fqdn@another.fqdn In order for this to work another.fqdn must support full finger functionality. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... ... 2.1.4 Interesting Places to Finger Scott Yanoff's "Updated Internet Services List" contains a number of interesting places to finger. If you access it through the following URL all the finger commands are links. http://www.uwm.edu/Mirror/inet.services.html ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... 2.2 Changing Your Finger Information On most systems you can change the information that people see when they finger you. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... ... 2.2.1 Using chfn to change your full name (and more) On many Unix systems you can change some of your default information, such as your full name, by typing the following at your Unix prompt: chfn If chfn is not available try "passwd -f". If neither of these are available then you will need to contact your system administrator and ask him/her to change your full name, etc. After you have changed your information check that they are in place by fingering yourself. Also to see a different display of your information type the following at your Unix prompt: finger This displays a one line description of everyone currently logged on your system. For more information see the chfn(1), passwd(1), and finger(1) man pages. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... ... 2.2.2 Creating Your .plan and .project files Your ~/.project and ~/.plan files, if they exist, are displayed when you are fingered. Setting these up is essentially the same as setting up a ~/.signature file (described in 1.0 above). Type... In order to... ------- -------------- cd Change to your home directory. pico .plan Use the pico editor to create a .plan file. (Replace "pico" with another editor if you like.) chmod 644 .plan Make .plan readable by all. chmod a+x . Make home directory searchable by all. If you want a .project file follow the same procedure. Note that only the first line of the .project is displayed (so you might as well only make it one line!). If you have problems, see section 1.4 on "Troubleshooting Your Signature" to make sure that your permissions are set correctly. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... 2.3 Finding Out Who Fingers You Finger wasn't designed to log finger requests, so finding who fingers you is complicated - and sometimes impossible - to setup. For more information see: * The next section of this FAQ on the Backfinger Script. * Chris Alfeld's fingertrace: http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/fingertrace/ * R.L. Samuell's logfinger script, which you can obtain by fingering: logfinger@twinbrook.cis.uab.edu * Unix - Frequently Asked Questions (4/7) [Frequent posting] 4.9) How do I keep track of people who are fingering me? This article is archived in all the usual FAQ archives, including: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/unix-faq/faq/part4/faq-doc-9.html An easy thing that you can do to see if anyone has fingered you is type the following at your Unix prompt: ls -lu $HOME/.plan This tells you the last time someone accessed your .plan, but it doesn't tell you who it was. I have this in my .login because it's interesting to see when the last time someone was checking on me! [Note that under AFS (Andrew File System, a distributed filesystem), ls -lu $HOME/.plan will not work due to the fact that AFS has no notion of ``atime'', or ``last accessed time''.] ------------------------------ From: Janet Rosenbaum Subject: ... ... 2.3.1 Backfinger Script A script called, among other things, backfinger, planner, and finger_logger (flogger or frogger, for short), makes your .plan into a named pipe. Think of a named pipe as being a sort of pipe used with plumbing that opens on the screen of the person who is fingering you - say, Fred - so that when the .plan file (a named pipe) is accessed, it looks for a program from which to get something to stick on Fred's screen. The script is called when you are fingered. At that moment, the script looks to the finger port of your UNIX machine, sees which machine Fred is on, and logs that machine's IP number and host name. The script then can execute a command to spit out a .plan on Fred's screen. You could use a program that generates random poetry, the fortune program, or simply "cat plan_file" to make the contents of the text file (plan_file) appear on Fred's screen. To make Fred think that you are really cool, the script also tells him what machine he is fingering you from. This script tells you only the machine that Fred is fingering you from, not his actual user name. Although the identification protocol (documented in RFC1413) allows exchange of the user name that initiated the finger process over port 113, the current backfinger program does not use it. (Anyone who has enough time to add this feature certainly may, though!) The other way to find out Fred's name is to use systat, which requests a list of current processes on Fred's machine over port 11. This option rarely is available, due to security concerns. Following are two caveats: * This program must be running at all times on your system, even when you are logged out. Leaving on a background process like this one annoys most system administrators no end, especially on high-load systems. Do not run the program unless you are sure that you are allowed to run background processes. * If you decide that you want to stop running this program, remove your .plan file as soon as you kill the process; otherwise, all your finger processes will hang. Given these caveats, the script is distributed only to those who can use it, mostly for educational reasons. The Web site is http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~jrosen/scripts/logger.src. Note: I am not the author of this program; the version that I distribute is virtually identical to the program distributed by Steve Franklin. The real author is Tony Rems (rembo@unisoft.com). Modifications and revisions were made by Geoff Loker (geoff@mdms.moore.com), Karen Bruner (napalm@ugcs.caltech.edu), Norman Franke (franke1@llnl.gov), and Steve Franklin (franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca). SEE ALSO ======== Newsgroup: comp.sources.misc ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 3.0 What to Put in Your Signature and Finger Files It is good netiquette to keep your signature to four lines or fewer. And many news posters, such as some versions of inews(1), will not post an article that has a signature with more than four lines in it. So, put large large pictures, your philosophy of life , etc. in your finger files or in your Web pages and point people to those in your signature. For signatures it's a good idea to keep the width less than 75 characters so that if your signature is included in a followup preceded by an attribution character (like `> '), each line will still be on one line. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... 3.1 URLs A good strategy is to keep your signature short and include an URL for your Web page, e.g.: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ If you do not have a Web page you might want to put in an URL that will finger you, e.g.: http://www-bprc.mps.ohio-state.edu/cgi-bin/finger.pl?hugh@halcyon.com You can also put URLs in your .plan and then, if someone is fingering you through a Web gateway such as the ones described in 2.1 above, these will be links. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... 3.2 Ascii Art __ __ __ __ / \ / \ / \ / \ ____________________/ __\/ __\/ __\/ __\_____________________________ ___________________/ /__/ /__/ /__/ /________________________________ | / \ / \ / \ / \ \____ |/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \ o \ \_____/--< A good source of art for your signature and finger files is the ascii art FAQ which contains (among others) these questions: 9] Where can I find ASCII art? 22] How do I put an animation in my plan? 23] How do I make a sig? 24] How do I have my sig automatically added to my posts and email? The Ascii Art FAQ is at: http://gagme.wwa.com/~boba/faq.html One particularly good place to find ascii art is: http://gagme.wwa.com/~boba/scarecrow.html Lots of cool ideas for things to put in your .signature and .plan are at: ftp://sashimi.wwa.com/pub/Scarecrow/BestOfTheScarecrowsSigGallery Remember it's good netiquette to keep you sig to four lines or fewer! SEE ALSO ======== Newsgroups: rec.arts.ascii, alt.ascii-art, alt.binaries.pictures.ascii and alt.ascii-art.animation ------------------------------ From: Marc Kriguer Subject: ... 3.3 Animated Text Strings Dotplan is a program that performs "animation" effects on text strings, so that .plan files (hence the name) look a little more fancy (on low-speed dialup lines). Some of the effects make the characters appear one at a time; others have the characters appear at once and "move" around. EXAMPLES dotplan 3 This is sample text # Display string using style 3 dotplan # Display usage information dotplan s # Display styles in all styles dotplan d This is more text # Display string in all styles dotplan 1 Hi there... > .plan # Save output in actual .plan file -- Marc The files are at: ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/dotplan.c ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/dotplan.1 ------------------------------ From: Tim Pierce Subject: ... 3.4 Robot Fodder Q: Tim, why do you and others put random, provocative words like the following in your sig? -- Green Card fodder: Canter, Siegel, green card, Joel Furr, liable, fortune, conspiracy, CyberSell, Tennessee Bar. A: The original genesis of this bit of lore was the NSA's supposed archiving of Usenet. It's a popular urban legend that the NSA scans and archives every message posted to Usenet, and in the heyday of this story it was popular to add "spook fodder" to your .signature consisting of words like "conspiracy, bullion, plutonium, Saudi Arabia, president, assassination," and so on. I think that the GNU Emacs distribution still comes with the code that would insert such words into your posts or .signatures automatically. A couple of years ago there was a nut named Clayton Cramer who would periodically bombard soc.motss with pages and pages of pseudo-scientific babble about the evils of homosexuality. It got so tiring that after a while I amended my .signature to read "Clayton-Fodder: homosexuality, pedophilia, incest, guns, Second Amendment, Libertarian, Reagan," or some such. It got quite a few giggles from some of the old hands out there. A more recent example was the case of "Serdar Argic," a program written by a U of Minnesota student to search for any article referencing Turkey or Turkish culture, and follow up with several pages of invective about Armenian genocide. There were some reports that this program was faulty and began responding to articles about "Thanksgiving Turkey" and the like, but I don't recall ever seeing that happen, myself. Nevertheless, people started putting "Argic fodder" into their .signatures, like "Turkey, Armenia, SDPA crooks, genocide" in order to bait the "Argic-bot" into following up. The latest rumor is that Canter and Siegel are archiving every post which refers to them, in the hopes of finding grounds for a libel suit. Hence, my .signature (which only goes to newsgroups in the news.* hierarchy). It's a ridiculous idea, but this is one of those bits of folklore which I really enjoy perpetuating. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... 3.5 Newsgroups for Sig Discussion In addition to the ascii art newsgroups listed in 3.2 above, people discuss signatures in these newsgroups. Newsgroup Description Newsgroup Name ===================== ============== The War Lord of the West Preservation alt.fan.warlord Fan Club Like alt.fan.warlord, only different alt.stupid.signature.flame.flame.flame ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 4.0 Customized Headers Another way that you can tell people about yourself, or your company, is to customize the headers that are sent in your mail and news messages. Mail headers are specified in RFC822 and news headers are specified in RFC1036. The headers that you are most likely to want to customize are the From, Reply-To, and Organization headers. READING MESSAGES ================ Most mailers and newsreaders do not display all the headers when you are reading a message you've received. Often typing `h' or ^h (for header) will display all the headers of a message. You can often set up your mailer or newsreader to always automatically display whatever headers you specify. COMPOSING MESSAGES ================== The sections below give instructions for automatically having customized headers included in your messages. Some composers will automatically display your customized headers while you are composing, and others won't. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... 4.1 Your From Header Followup-To: news.newusers.questions Your From header is the main thing that people use to find out who you are. You can use either of the following formats for your From header: From: Full Name From: userid@fully.qualified.domain.name (Full Name) For example, I can use either of these: From: Nancy McGough From: nancym@ii.com (Nancy McGough) The first format is preferred. Your userid is usually your login name and can not easily be changed. Your fully qualified domain name (FQDN) is the domain name used by your Internet provider. If you have a choice of FQDNs to use, I recommend using the shortest one. For example, at one of my providers I can use either nancym@coho.halcyon.com or nancym@halcyon.com. I like the second one because it is shorter and easier for people to type and remember. Your full name is usually in the file /etc/passwd and is the name that people see when they finger you. On many systems you can change your full name using the chfn command, which was described in section 2.2.1 above. Some newsreaders and mailers allow you to customize your From line using commands specific to that tool. If you do this be aware of a these important points: * Customizing your From header will not hide your identity since the transport agent will append a header, such as the Sender header, that includes your real identity. * In some newsreaders you will not be able to cancel an article that you posted using a customized From header. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... 4.2 Specific Mailer and Newsreader Instructions Followup-To: news.newusers.questions Below are instructions for customizing your headers in different mailers and newsreaders. If you have a choice between a couple methods, it's usually a good strategy to use a method that works for many different tools. For example, setting an environment variable. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... ... 4.2.1 Tin and the RN Family Followup-To: news.software.readers In tin and the rn family of tools (Pnews, rn, trn, strn) you can use environment variables to customize your headers. These newsreaders use the FROM, REPLYTO, and ORGANIZATION environment variables, if they are set, to determine the From, Reply-To, and Organization headers. The way you set an environment variable depends on which shell you are using. For example, in the csh or tcsh you can set the ORGANIZATION variable by putting the following line in you ~/.login: setenv ORGANIZATION "Your Organization Name" After you edit your ~/.login you can establish the setting by either logging out and loggin back in or by typing the following at your Unix prompt: source ~/.login To check that the variable is set type: printenv After you have set your environment variables, post a test message to a local test newsgroup with `local' distribution to check that the headers are correct. SEE ALSO ======== Manual Pages: tin(1), Pnews(1), rn(1), trn(1), strn(1) Newsgroup: news.software.readers ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... ... 4.2.2 Pine 3.90 and Later Followup-To: comp.mail.pine In Pine 3.90, and later versions, you customize your headers using the customized-hdrs variable. Here are instructions for setting your Organization header. 1. From the Main Menu type S for Setup 2. Type C for Configuration 3. To change the value of the customized-hdrs variable: a) Space bar and arrow down to the customized-hdrs variable. b) Type A for Add Value c) At the prompt type: Organization: Your Organization Name If you have set the ORGANIZATION environment variable (which is described in 4.2.1 above) you can type: Organization: $ORGANIZATION While reading a message that you've received you can view all the headers of the message by typing H. If H does not work you need to go to your configuration menu and set the enable-full-header-cmd variable. While composing a message you can view all the headers by placing the cursor in the header region and typing ^R (view rich headers). NOTE: The customized-hdrs variable is not available in Pine 3.89 and below. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... ... 4.2.3 Elm Followup-To: comp.mail.elm Use your editor to create a file named ~/.elm/elmheaders that contains any headers you'd like in your outgoing mail messages. For example, my ~/.elm/elmheaders file contains the following (but without the leading space!): From: Nancy McGough Organization: Infinite Ink, Seattle, WA, USA ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... ... 4.2.4 NN Followup-To: news.software.nn NN uses its news-header and mail-header variables to set headers for news and mail messages you send. For example, to set your Organization header, put the following lines in your ~/.nn/init file: set news-header Organization: Your Organization Name set mail-header Organization: Your Organization Name While reading messages with NN you can view the Organization line by adding O (the letter "oh") to your header-lines variable setting. I like the following setting: set header-lines AFOnWK*Y ------------------------------ Date: 17 Apr 1995 00:05:00 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 5.0 Mailer and Newsreader References PINE ==== Web Pages: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ FAQ: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/faq/ ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/faq Man Pages: pine(1), pico(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.pine (linked to Pine mailing list) Mailing List: pine-info@cac.washington.edu (linked to Pine newsgroup) Subscribe to the pine-info mailing list by sending mail to: majordomo@cac.washington.edu With... subscribe pine-info in the body of the message. ELM === Web Pages: http://www.myxa.com/elm.html http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ FAQs: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/elm/top.html Man Pages: elm(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm Emacs Mail Mode =============== Newsgroups: gnus.emacs.help and comp.emacs FAQ: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/GNU-Emacs-FAQ/part5/faq.html MH == FAQ: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mh-faq/top.html Man Pages: mh(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.mh MAIL ==== Man Pages: mail(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.misc NN == Web Pages: http://www.best.com/~ii/internet/nn/ FAQs: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/nn-faq/top.html Man Pages: nn(1) Newsgroup: news.software.nn MISC NEWSREADERS ================ Manual Pages: tin(1), Pnews(1), rn(1), trn(1), strn(1) Newsgroup: news.newusers.questions, news.software.readers (Please send me pointers to other mailer and newsreader references and let me know what newsreaders can read mail folders.) ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 6.0 Contributors This FAQ, like many others, is a collaborative effort. I learned a lot of the information in newsgroups, especially: comp.unix.* comp.mail.* news.software.* news.newusers.questions Also, lots of people have mailed me information and I've tried to acknowledge them below. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... 6.1 Acknowledgements Thanks to these people who sent suggestions and digest items: Jochen Bern Jym Dyer Marc Kriguer Mike Northam Tim Pierce Janet Rosenbaum Thanks to these people who sent suggestions: Jeff Blaine Stephen Cristol Roman Czyborra Terry Gray Sven Guckes Jon Hamilton Rich Kasperowski Hugh McGough Mary McGough David L Miller Skip Montanaro David W. Tamkin Syd Weinstein Thanks to these people who've created ascii art, programs, and/or documents that are pointed to in this article. (This list is not complete right now.) Chris Alfeld or Bob Allison Jorn Barger Jean-Frangois Mezei Piero Serini Doug Stevenson Marc VanHeyningen Bill Wohler Scott A. Yanoff Special thanks to: Thomas A. Fine for setting up and maintaining the hypertext archive of FAQs. Congratulations to him for winning O'Reilly and Associates' "The Best of the Net" award! Please let me know if I've left you, or anyone else, out of this list. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: ... 6.2 If You'd Like to Contribute If you have any corrections, suggestions, or new digest items to contribute to this FAQ please send them to faq-editor@ii.com. If your reader understands the following URL, you can use it to send me mail: mailto:faq-editor@ii.com. I'd especially like to learn about: * Cool signatures that have less than or equal to four lines. * Finger clients for Windows or Mac. * Mike Northam's current email address. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 7.0 Copyright Notice Copyright (c) 1994, 1995 by Nancy McGough, except sections 1.2.4, 1.2.5, 1.2.6, 1.2.8, 2.3.1, 3.3, 3.4 which are Copyright (c) 1994, 1995 by the authors named in the sections. No portion of this work may be sold or put to commercial use without express written consent of the authors. This restriction covers publication in any form, or distribution by any method, which permits this work to be visually perceived, either directly or with the aid of any machine or device. Permission is granted to republish or redistribute this article in its entirety for noncommercial use if this copyright notice is not removed or altered. End of Signature, Finger, & Customized Headers FAQ ************************************************** -- /\_/\ @..@ Please make sure your host gets the /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) new humanities.* newsgroups. Info ( o.o ) > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) is at http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 05:42:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17607; Thu, 27 Apr 95 05:42:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22660; Thu, 27 Apr 95 05:36:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [137.98.200.54] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22654; Thu, 27 Apr 95 05:36:41 -0700 Received: (from stares@localhost) by lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.dhl.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA02499; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 13:35:55 +0100 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 13:35:52 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM X-Sender: stares@lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.dhl.com To: "Julie Jirikowic,HIG366,67108," Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Security message In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are my own and not my employers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 24 Apr 1995, Julie Jirikowic,HIG366,67108, wrote: This is caused by using pine and some versions of sendmail (8.6.9, 8.6.10, 8.6.11). Upgrade to sendmail v 8.6.12 which cures most of these types of problems. Stuart > POSSIBLE ATTACK from julie@localhost: newline in string "Julie Jirikowic" , > > and a list of addresses. It gets generated when Pine puts in a newline between > users. Any ideas? > > Thanks > --- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Julie Jirikowic School of Ocean and Earth Science and Technology > University of Hawaii julie@mokuahi.soest.hawaii.edu > > Acid rain killed the forests. They appointed a committee to discuss it. > The ozone layer was disappearing. They said it was a minor problem to be > dealt with in time. They confused the power of words over people with the > power of words over matter--which is nonexistent. -Marge Piercy > - ---- Stuart Tares Email : Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM Senior Network Analyst Voice : +44 181 742 4060 DHL Systems Ltd, CSG Europe & Africa Region -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.i Comment: Processed by mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface. iQB1AgUBL5+PjKJEeW6YXTONAQEAcwMArlTSF7OAvimALpiRxG1YXOWrlnbK7bGU JDLfchpv5FTWZbfN9F6ixDOZxLXVL2c0tFaEEi+cH6owE9IkWwcdpw7Y4eBsSQ+i aJ+SGCj0iKO4j8lhFC2fFdL4Z6k69L9k =u8sA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 05:53:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17853; Thu, 27 Apr 95 05:53:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22743; Thu, 27 Apr 95 05:46:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22737; Thu, 27 Apr 95 05:46:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4SsP-00038RC; Thu, 27 Apr 95 05:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mark@charm.net (Mark Pelletier) Subject: Re: Silly question Date: 26 Apr 1995 11:29:03 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3nlglq$igb@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> ijh1000@cam.ac.uk (Isaac Hepworth) writes: >Silly question, but the right place to put it I think : >Why is pine called pine? >-- >Isaac Hepworth ijh1000@cam.ac.uk >Computer Representative, Corpus Christi College the documentation that comes with it says that it was written because the users hated elm, and that the acrynym stands for Pine Is Not Elm so now you know. i, on the other hand *still* don't know how to make pine recogize and handle turdperfect files. help? -- women and men (both dong and ding) | Three quarks for Muster Mark! summer autumn winter spring | Mark Pelletier reaped their sowings and went their came | mark@charm.net sun moon stars rain | Shantih, shantih, shantih! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 06:45:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18974; Thu, 27 Apr 95 06:45:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06108; Thu, 27 Apr 95 06:35:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06102; Thu, 27 Apr 95 06:35:48 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 27 Apr 95 21:34:34 -0800 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 21:34:34 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Mike Brudenell Cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: forcing mail check In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 27 Apr 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > [I accidentally deleted the message I wanted to reply to, but...] > > Ed Greshko commented that he'd never seen the PC-Pine source code > available at Washington, so presumed it wasn't possible for us Mere > Mortals to build it... > > I'd always assumed that the various ".dos" and ".win" files, in > particular "makefile.win" used by a "build win" would produce you a > PC-Pine from the same distribution kit as as "normal" UNIX Pine. > > Perhaps I was wrong in assuming this? Well, you are right. It is not impossible. (I'd looked at the source for pine, older version, and missed the makefile.msc file used in that version.) However, most mortals (at least the ones I know) don't have C compilers on their PCs nor do they have access to the tools necessary to add support for the various IP stacks. Most users of PCs tend to use applications out of the box. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 08:00:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20872; Thu, 27 Apr 95 08:00:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07440; Thu, 27 Apr 95 07:51:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07434; Thu, 27 Apr 95 07:51:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4Uqd-00038RC; Thu, 27 Apr 95 07:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dgmac1@mdw027.cc.monash.edu.au (David Mackay) Subject: Random signatures. Date: 27 Apr 1995 06:24:03 GMT Message-Id: <3nnda3$4mc@harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au> I realise there is another thread along similar lines, however I seem to have missed the start of it. Can anyone tell me if there is a way to attach a random signature to the end of any mail I send in pine v3.07. In tin (which I use for reading news) I can assign a directory for signatures and it will select a random file from that directory for my signature. Can a similar thing be done in pine, preferably using the same directory? Thankyou for any help. -- David Mackay | "Probably the toughest time in anyone's life dgmac1@ccds.cc.monash.edu.au | is when you have to murder a loved one Monash University, Clayton | because they are the devil. Other than that Victoria, Australia | though, it's been a good day." -Emo Phillips "There can be only one" - Highlander From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 09:35:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25675; Thu, 27 Apr 95 09:35:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09997; Thu, 27 Apr 95 09:24:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09991; Thu, 27 Apr 95 09:24:08 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19566; Thu, 27 Apr 95 09:24:06 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 09:24:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Rachel Hill Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Silly question In-Reply-To: <3nmvcu$kd3@nntp1.u.washington.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 27 Apr 1995, Rachel Hill wrote: > >Why is pine called pine? > > pine is the mailer that followed elm (and I think elm was just short for > ELectronic Mail), and pine originally stood for "Pine Is Nearly Elm." Later, > as the features changed sufficiently, it came to stand for "Pine Is Not Elm." And a year or so back when we added news support, we observed that "Program for Internet News and Email" might be a better interpretation... But mostly it's the name of a nice tree family. > I hate it that I know these things... I know what you mean. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 09:35:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25699; Thu, 27 Apr 95 09:35:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10166; Thu, 27 Apr 95 09:31:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10160; Thu, 27 Apr 95 09:31:11 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19715; Thu, 27 Apr 95 09:31:08 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 09:31:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Mark Pelletier Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Silly question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 26 Apr 1995, Mark Pelletier wrote: > >Why is pine called pine? > > the documentation that comes with it says that it was written because > the users hated elm, Well, no, neither we nor our documentation ever said that. In fact the users we were working with were very happy with their mailer... it's just that we didn't want to keep running MVS to support it. We did say that the currently-available Unix mailer options did not meet our ease-of-use requirements. > so now you know. i, on the other hand *still* don't know how to make > pine recogize and handle turdperfect files. help? If you mean automatic MIME labelling of wordperfect files, this is not yet supported. In 3.92 there will be support for a .mimetypes file that can be used to map file extensions to MIME types when attaching files. Still it should certainly be possible to send wordperfect files via Pine and save them on the destination computer. They won't be labeled as wordperfect files, but the bits should arrive intact. (They'll be labeled application/octet-stream). -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 12:45:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04735; Thu, 27 Apr 95 12:45:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00954; Thu, 27 Apr 95 12:36:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00948; Thu, 27 Apr 95 12:36:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4ZFN-00038SC; Thu, 27 Apr 95 12:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: laniege@eng.auburn.edu (Glenn E. Lanier) Subject: Re: Command line mailer Message-Id: References: <3nhout$o0g@gate.sinica.edu.tw> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 14:33:01 GMT On 26 Apr 1995 07:14:38 -0700, in comp.mail.pine, Don Roberts (while parading as roberts@mail.utep.edu) scribbled >>--> : Can PC-Pine be used as a command line mailer? I need the ability to mail : a file off to a remote user from inside a DOS batch script. Can Pine do : this? If not, does anyone have any ideas on another program that can : help me out? How about mail username -s "subject" < filename -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Glenn Lanier II Preferred: laniege@eng.auburn.edu | | 04 CS Graduation in: 41 Days - 59248 Minutes | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | **FLASH** Energizer Bunny arrested, charged with battery. | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 13:29:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07030; Thu, 27 Apr 95 13:29:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01979; Thu, 27 Apr 95 13:18:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01973; Thu, 27 Apr 95 13:18:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4Zt1-00038RC; Thu, 27 Apr 95 13:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brennan@hahnemann.edu (Andrew Brennan) Subject: Pine & POP ? Date: 27 Apr 1995 13:40:50 GMT Message-Id: <3no6t2$5e3@cmi.hahnemann.edu> I have mail coming into a system that only can act as a POP server ... Can (and if so, how) Pine access this or am I going to need to forward the mail to my local account?? andrew. (brennan@hal.hahnemann.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 13:30:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07084; Thu, 27 Apr 95 13:30:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15980; Thu, 27 Apr 95 13:23:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15974; Thu, 27 Apr 95 13:23:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4a6C-00038TC; Thu, 27 Apr 95 13:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: n9510796@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Michael Bruce) Subject: PC Pine Message-Id: <1995Apr27.140339.26992@henson.cc.wwu.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 14:03:39 GMT Where can I find the program PC PINE? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 14:30:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09484; Thu, 27 Apr 95 14:30:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17193; Thu, 27 Apr 95 14:15:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from netcom16.netcom.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17187; Thu, 27 Apr 95 14:15:26 -0700 Received: by netcom16.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA27590; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 14:14:45 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 14:14:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Keith Subject: SGIs and Pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can I get Pine to work on Irix 5.3 and a Novell network? Thanks for any help! Keith Bachman aloha@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 14:34:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09634; Thu, 27 Apr 95 14:34:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17407; Thu, 27 Apr 95 14:24:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17401; Thu, 27 Apr 95 14:24:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4b18-00038SC; Thu, 27 Apr 95 14:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: iii@gate.net (Raj Rajagopalan) Subject: How can I change from field? Date: 27 Apr 1995 20:20:11 GMT Message-Id: <3nou9r$re0@news.gate.net> Does anyone know how I can change the from field when I send mail out? We have a system where the same id seems to be put on all of our outgoing ID even though we have different ids for logging in and sending out mail. thanks, raj From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 14:34:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09668; Thu, 27 Apr 95 14:34:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03383; Thu, 27 Apr 95 14:24:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03375; Thu, 27 Apr 95 14:24:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4b0Q-00038RC; Thu, 27 Apr 95 14:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mas8y@holmes.acc.virginia.edu (Melanie A. Swain) Subject: 3.90 session dies with new mail arrival Message-Id: Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 17:20:53 GMT Hi, I sent this to the pine-bugs address, but the handy auto-reply suggested I post here for a speedier response (maybe). I have the following problem with 3.90 running on an RS/6000 (AIX 3.2): If I am in Pine and my INBOX is empty, when a new message arrives I get the error: [Mailbox open failed, aborted: Is a directory] When I exit, I get a core dump: Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". Exiting pine. IOT/Abort trap(coredump) /usr/spool/mail/mas8y has the proper permissions when this happens When I go back into Pine, pine can read the INBOX with no problem. I added the following features recently (in the past day or so): select-without-confirm, enable-aggregate-command-set, enable-flag-cmd, show-selected-in-boldface However, when I went back to my original configuration, I still had the same problem. I also had just cleaned out my INBOX in the past day or so and just started noticing the problem. Thanks for any help, Melanie -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Melanie A. Swain Information Technology and Communication UNIX User Support University of Virginia mas8y@virginia.edu Gilmer B051,(804)924-0641 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 14:49:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10473; Thu, 27 Apr 95 14:49:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03915; Thu, 27 Apr 95 14:44:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03909; Thu, 27 Apr 95 14:44:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4bH8-00038RC; Thu, 27 Apr 95 14:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gpl@gauss.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: Getting that nice '+' with forwarded mail Date: 27 Apr 1995 17:15:20 -0400 Message-Id: Is there any way to get the '+' sign to appear in front mail that you receive that is to an alternate address? I have my mail forwarding from other places. I also subscribe to several mailing lists. It would be nice if I could somehow get it to put the plus in front of _all_ the mail that is specifically to me...not just specifically to the address I am checking? Is this possible? If not, could it be in the 3.92? (Or is it more trouble than it's worth?) Thanks... Jerry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 15:04:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11005; Thu, 27 Apr 95 15:04:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18307; Thu, 27 Apr 95 14:58:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bidnet.bidnet.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18297; Thu, 27 Apr 95 14:58:08 -0700 Received: by bidnet.bidnet.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA18936; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 14:57:02 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 14:57:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Turrin Subject: Pine Debug Problem To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <3nou9r$re0@news.gate.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've installed Pine version 3.89 on a AIX 4.1.1 and I can't seem to turn off debug. Debug files are generated in users directories. Any suggestions? Thank you.. ___________________________________________________________________ Mark L. Turrin Phone: 510-937-7473 mlt@bidnet.com Fax: 510-256-8357 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 15:48:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13343; Thu, 27 Apr 95 15:48:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19521; Thu, 27 Apr 95 15:44:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19514; Thu, 27 Apr 95 15:44:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4cDx-00038RC; Thu, 27 Apr 95 15:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Justin Hamilton Subject: Bulk Mailing Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 11:05:19 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am trying to send a mail message to about 50 people. I know I can do this by creating the file withe users names in it, but I don't want one users to see the list of all 50 people. I have tried to use bcc but it still doesn't work. Is this a limitaion of pine or am I over looking something. Justin Hamilton Jah@okway.okstate.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 16:53:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16272; Thu, 27 Apr 95 16:53:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06688; Thu, 27 Apr 95 16:42:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.unixg.ubc.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06676; Thu, 27 Apr 95 16:42:29 -0700 Received: from interchg.ubc.ca by unixg.ubc.ca (8.6.10/1.14) id QAA04106; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 16:42:27 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 16:42:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "D. Huang" X-Sender: cbhuang@interchg.ubc.ca To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Subscription Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII subscribe pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 16:56:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16439; Thu, 27 Apr 95 16:56:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06568; Thu, 27 Apr 95 16:39:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06558; Thu, 27 Apr 95 16:39:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4d8c-00038RC; Thu, 27 Apr 95 16:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lburton@Primenet.Com (Louis I. Burton) Subject: Re: PICO composer Date: 27 Apr 1995 15:07:11 GMT Message-Id: <3nobuv$4o7@news4.primenet.com> WI>keys for going directly to the top or bottom of a document, too... You can use ctrl-w followed by ctrl-y for the top and ctrl-v for the bottom --- þ OLX 2.2 þ No...Taco Bell is not a Mexican phone company ! -- That's all there is and there ain't no more! You all write back now ya hear? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 18:15:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19861; Thu, 27 Apr 95 18:15:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22891; Thu, 27 Apr 95 18:10:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22885; Thu, 27 Apr 95 18:10:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4eR7-00038RC; Thu, 27 Apr 95 18:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chang s l Subject: Kicking out when resuming postponed message Date: 27 Apr 1995 18:50:09 GMT Message-Id: <3nop11$r14@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> A user was kicked out of PINE after she answered "y" to the question "Continue postponed composition ...?" Checking the user's (shd) top directory, I found the following files. -rw------- 1 shd users 0 Apr 20 08:03 .pine-interrupted-mail -rw-rw-rw- 2 shd users 0 Apr 20 08:03 .pine-interrupted-mail.loc k -rw-rw-rw- 2 shd users 0 Apr 20 08:03 .pine-interrupted-mail.loc k.798379387.23023.cos1 -rw------- 1 shd users 0 Apr 20 12:54 .pine-interrupted-mail.loc k.798396851.55630.cos1 -rw-rw-rw- 1 shd users 0 Apr 27 09:05 .pine-interrupted-mail.loc k.798987957.31658.cos1 Once these files were removed, the problem disappeared. The user is using Pine 3.91 on an AIX machine. Has anyone had this problem? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 19:03:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21010; Thu, 27 Apr 95 19:03:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08997; Thu, 27 Apr 95 18:59:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08991; Thu, 27 Apr 95 18:59:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4fIm-00038RC; Thu, 27 Apr 95 18:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Carl Reimann Subject: automatic subject lines Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 19:29:53 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any way to automate the insertion of subject lines as one can do with email addresses? It would be a convenient feature. Carl From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 19:12:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21243; Thu, 27 Apr 95 19:12:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23741; Thu, 27 Apr 95 19:09:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23735; Thu, 27 Apr 95 19:09:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4fQB-00038RC; Thu, 27 Apr 95 19:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: khaitan@ix.netcom.com (B Khaitan) Subject: Re: "xbtoa Begin" string?... Date: 27 Apr 1995 21:51:07 GMT Message-Id: <3np3kb$mij@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <3n35m7$jjq@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> In ernst@fritz.snafu.de (Ernst Kloecker) writes: > >In <3n35m7$jjq@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> ngolego@uoguelph.ca (Nickolay V Golego) writes: > > >>I received the message in Pmail which looks like: > >>xbtoa Begin >>[...] >>xbtoa End [...] > >>Could anyone give me a hint how to decode and read it? Usual uudecode >>didn't work on it. > >You need atob and btoa, a pair of tools like uudecode/uuencode, only with >a better compression rate. > >Should be available on the major FTP archives. > >-- >-------------------------------------------- >Ernst Kloecker ernst@fritz.snafu.de >-------------------------------------------- > The only atob decoder I know of is atob v1.1 and the zipped file can commonly be found by the name 'atob11.zip'. I have a question about how to "unchunk" btoa encoded files because they are usually sent in 64k packets. ________ Rishi Khaitan: khaitan@ix.netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 22:09:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25150; Thu, 27 Apr 95 22:09:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11194; Thu, 27 Apr 95 21:57:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from actcom.co.il by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11188; Thu, 27 Apr 95 21:57:46 -0700 Received: from galtronics.UUCP by actcom.co.il with UUCPgaltronics (8.6.10/actcom-0.1) id PAA26334 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 15:47:19 +0300 (rfc931-sender: uucp@localhost) Received: by aviion.galtronics.co.il (5.4R2.10/ACTCOM-GALTRONICS-S-1.0) id AA03110; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 14:46:32 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 14:46:32 +0000 (GMT) From: Aladdin Khamis To: Pine-Info Subject: A Better Speller For Pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Do any of you know any other spelling program than the Unix Speller ? I don't have Ispell, is it possible to install a speller that can give me suggestions? I appreciate any help >--|\/\/\/|------------------------------------ >| | | | E-mail: khamis@galtronics.co.il | Aladdin Khamis >| | (o)(o) '--/ /----------------------------- >| C _) // | Information Systems Department >| | ,___| / | Galtronics Ltd. >---| /-------------------- P.O.Box 1589 Tiberias 14115 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 22:13:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25230; Thu, 27 Apr 95 22:13:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11300; Thu, 27 Apr 95 22:04:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11294; Thu, 27 Apr 95 22:04:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4i9N-00038RC; Thu, 27 Apr 95 21:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: msh@rain.org () Subject: Q: Sending graphics via Pine Date: 25 Apr 1995 19:44:35 GMT Message-Id: <3njjf3$onl@news.rain.org> Is it possible to send graphics via email ? As an attachment ? Please reply to msh@rain.org Please do not post replies in this newsgroup, thank you. -- The Internet Automat is Open ! directory@infomat.com BBR Media, Santa Barbara CA 805.568.8076 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 22:41:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25809; Thu, 27 Apr 95 22:41:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26570; Thu, 27 Apr 95 22:34:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26564; Thu, 27 Apr 95 22:34:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4icN-00038TC; Thu, 27 Apr 95 22:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmacklem@uoguelph.ca (Rick Macklem) Subject: 3.90 startup buglet Date: 27 Apr 1995 21:20:21 GMT Message-Id: <3np1ql$dc3@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> Sometimes pine 3.90 loops (actually repeatedly segmentation faults) when started up from an rlogin session to a NetBSD 1.0 system. The problem is that init_signals() is called before config_screen() in pine/pine.c and if a SIGWINCH is posted between the two calls, the ttyo pointer isn't set up.\ Although there are several ways to fix this, the following one line change does the trick. (I couldn't see a bugs email address in the doc, so I am posting it here...) rick --- diff -c pine/signals.c --- *** signals.c.bak Tue Apr 25 16:03:52 1995 --- signals.c Tue Apr 25 16:34:57 1995 *************** *** 306,312 **** { dprint(9,(debugfile, "SIGWINCH ready_for_winch: %d winch_occured:%d\n", ready_for_winch, winch_occured)); ! get_windsize(ps_global->ttyo); if(ready_for_winch) longjmp(winch_state, 1); else --- 306,313 ---- { dprint(9,(debugfile, "SIGWINCH ready_for_winch: %d winch_occured:%d\n", ready_for_winch, winch_occured)); ! if (ps_global->ttyo) ! get_windsize(ps_global->ttyo); if(ready_for_winch) longjmp(winch_state, 1); else From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 27 23:04:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26291; Thu, 27 Apr 95 23:04:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11948; Thu, 27 Apr 95 22:59:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11942; Thu, 27 Apr 95 22:59:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4j0x-00038RC; Thu, 27 Apr 95 22:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: messina@engin.umich.edu (Matt Messina) Subject: Re: Pico limitations Date: 26 Apr 1995 17:10:02 GMT Message-Id: <3nlupa$7ob@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> References: <3nehs2$h23@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <3nl3cs$igd@news.primenet.com> Bob Brody wrote: >>1) The "long lines wrapped" problem. When Pico reads in a file, if there >> are lines longer than X, then the lines are split. > >Start PICO with the -w switch and it will turn off word wrap. E.g., > > pico -w index.html WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. How many times must we rehash this? The -w option turns off "word wrap," which automatically moves words to the next line when you reach the end of a line. That has nothing to do with "long lines wrapped," which occurs only when reading in a file. Read in a file with lines longer than 255 characters (e.g. .newsrc) and you'll see the problem. -- Matt Messina messina@umich.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 03:10:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01798; Fri, 28 Apr 95 03:10:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00127; Fri, 28 Apr 95 02:57:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00121; Fri, 28 Apr 95 02:57:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4mkT-00038XC; Fri, 28 Apr 95 02:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Re: forcing mail check Message-Id: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 14:19:10 -0600 References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 25 Apr 1995, Carl Reimann wrote: | Is there any way to force a mail check? I don't like having to quit Pine | and start it up again repeatedly when I am waiting for mail to arrive. down-arrow at the bottom of the message index works for me. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 Comment: Processed by mkpgp1.1.4, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAgUBL50EzeBu0383Om6dAQEoLwQAnDkwUgLcI4E0G5gL8M3RIGs7v68nACyt Bks2rLAUC3RqRjvgPCTHDMbOqPlIRK3kGnFKZeVJ5bONiTE8Cjku2B914W5PpFfr WJ1g9KiMbtf1voThbvU5zfZiVXMDScGhWEfbci5BRsFjHM0Dmszfo3MQ8LCuyy9q IlZDSbZYjdk= =tt0G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka "The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 03:26:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02179; Fri, 28 Apr 95 03:26:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14696; Fri, 28 Apr 95 03:17:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14690; Fri, 28 Apr 95 03:17:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4n2r-00038XC; Fri, 28 Apr 95 03:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: leng@cougar.vut.edu.au (Leng Kaing) Subject: Re: Leaving read messages in INBOX Date: 28 Apr 1995 14:05:47 +1000 Message-Id: <3nppir$4b6@cougar.vut.edu.au> References: Noam Ben Yochanan (noam@brachot.jct.ac.il) wrote: : Hello all, : In elm it's possible to leave read messages in the incomming mail file, : meaning I can leave a message there until I deal with it. Pine doesn't seem : to support this option. It considers every read message as deleted ('D') when : exiting. This really sucks, pardon the expression. I got around it by : undeleting all the messages I want to keep, expunging all the ones I want to : delete and then exiting. This is of course error prone (I made the error : today :-( ) and inelegant. : Isn't there any way I can just tell the system to treat deleted/saved massges : in a different maner than read messages? i.e. NEVER to have 'D' appear next : to a message that was read but not deleted or saved? maybe an option in : .pinerc I missed or misunderstud? : Please reply by e-mail. Mine only gets marked as Deleted if I save the file into a folder, or delete it myself. Otherwise, it's left in the INBOX with no letters in front (meaning it's been read). I'm using unix pine by the way. -- Leng Kaing, Software Consultant, VUT - Footscray Campus Dept of IT & S, PO Box 14428 MMC, Melbourne 3000, Australia Tel:(03)688-4368 Fax:(03)688-4800 Email:leng@cougar.vut.edu.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 06:21:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06877; Fri, 28 Apr 95 06:21:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02831; Fri, 28 Apr 95 06:09:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from peter.atw.fullfeed.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02825; Fri, 28 Apr 95 06:09:11 -0700 Received: from edsi.edsi.appleton.wi.us (root@edsi.edsi.appleton.wi.us [199.201.120.1]) by peter.atw.fullfeed.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA14947 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 08:09:03 -0500 Received: (from lon@localhost) by edsi.edsi.appleton.wi.us (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA25065; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 08:08:53 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 08:08:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Lon Ponschock To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Louise Neumann Subject: How to scroll text in PINE? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a switch to get PINE into scroll mode rather than page mode? What is the best way to get PINE mail read to disk from a dial up connection to an IBM style personal computer? Would Q-modem expedite this process? advise, ok? :-) Any help appreciated. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 06:22:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06909; Fri, 28 Apr 95 06:22:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16712; Fri, 28 Apr 95 06:06:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acad.umm.maine.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16706; Fri, 28 Apr 95 06:06:01 -0700 Received: by acad.umm.maine.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA19276; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 09:04:41 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 09:04:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Sheldon N. Skeate" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII please send the list of frequently asked questions. This will allow me to see just what you do and how possibly you may help me in my academic endeavors From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 09:41:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13726; Fri, 28 Apr 95 09:41:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05672; Fri, 28 Apr 95 08:58:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05666; Fri, 28 Apr 95 08:57:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4sMZ-00038RC; Fri, 28 Apr 95 08:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Multiple @ in Address Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 13:28:22 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: The multiple-@ syntax of RFC-733 has been banned on the Internet since the early 1980s. I should know, since it was my mailer's first widespread use of this syntax on the net triggered the ban! Something about a certain MUA from a well-known government contractor, used by high-level military and government brass, crashing when it saw those things and smashing the mailbox file with it... RFC-822 formalized the ban in 1982, more than 7 years before Pine was written. RFC-822 offers a mechanism of source routing via this syntax: <@machine2:user@machine1> but this syntax has been depreciated in favor of moving routing to the domain name system via MX records. The only practical means of doing source routing these days is a convention known as the "%-hack" [which I popularized in the wake of the above-mentioned ban, causing a different crisis...but that's another story!]. The %-hack works by treating the rightmost-% in a local mailbox as an @. On the originating end, all by the rightmost-@ is changed to an %. In other words, you would use the syntax: user%machine1@machine2 This is interpreted by the sender as mailbox "user%machine1" at "machine2", by machine2 as mailbox "user" at "machine1", and finally by machine1 as local mailbox "user". I don't believe that there is any scenario that Pine would be changed to support a syntax that has been rejected as a great evil for 15 years. I hope that the %-hack will solve your problem satisfactorily; if not, could you explain a bit more about your configuration? There should be some other way to address this problem. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. On Tue, 25 Apr 1995, Robert Creighton wrote: > Our internal mail system requires some addresses to be "chained" through > others, such as user@machine1@machine2. > > Pine 3.91 does not like this format, and produces "junk at end of > address: @machine2" > > Can this be fixed? I don't have the problem with DEC's TeamLinks or Sun's > Mailtool. > > -- > Regards > > R.W. Creighton > Halifax NS > CANADA > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 09:50:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14099; Fri, 28 Apr 95 09:50:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19991; Fri, 28 Apr 95 09:33:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19985; Fri, 28 Apr 95 09:33:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4srP-00038XC; Fri, 28 Apr 95 09:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jvogel@dgs.dgsys.com (John Vogel) Subject: Kill files in pine Date: 27 Apr 1995 08:08:09 -0400 Message-Id: <3no1f9$hp1@DGS.dgsys.com> Is there a way to set up a kill file to eliminate some mail from listservs? Can this be done in Pine? Thanks, John Vogel (jvogel@dgs.dgsys.com) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 10:04:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14602; Fri, 28 Apr 95 10:04:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20304; Fri, 28 Apr 95 09:48:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20298; Fri, 28 Apr 95 09:48:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4t7M-00038SC; Fri, 28 Apr 95 09:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Dorrington Subject: Pine and X400 Date: 26 Apr 1995 16:25:58 GMT Message-Id: <3nls6m$qiu@sclinux.blm.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can Pine 3.91 handle X400 addressing? ======================================================= / \ / / \\\' , / // \\\//, _/ //, Mike Dorrington \_-//' / //<, m1dorrin@attmail.com \ /// > \\\`__/_ 202 452 5002 (fax) /,)-~>> _\` \\\ 202 452 5027 (voice) (/ \\ //\\ // // \\\ (( (( ======================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 10:10:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14980; Fri, 28 Apr 95 10:10:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06962; Fri, 28 Apr 95 09:48:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06956; Fri, 28 Apr 95 09:48:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4t7J-00038RC; Fri, 28 Apr 95 09:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Dorrington Subject: (no subject) Date: 26 Apr 1995 16:22:44 GMT Message-Id: <3nls0k$qgh@sclinux.blm.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can Pine 3.91 handle X400 addressing? ======================================================= / \ / / \\\' , / // \\\//, _/ //, Mike Dorrington \_-//' / //<, m1dorrin@attmail.com \ /// > \\\`__/_ 202 452 5002 (fax) /,)-~>> _\` \\\ 202 452 5027 (voice) (/ \\ //\\ // // \\\ (( (( ======================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 11:38:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18890; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:38:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09413; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:27:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09405; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:27:38 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19792; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:27:37 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 11:27:35 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Mike Dorrington Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and X400 In-Reply-To: <3nls6m$qiu@sclinux.blm.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine is an Internet mailer, not an X.400 mailer, but I have seen people use something like "x400_address@gateway.domain"... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 26 Apr 1995, Mike Dorrington wrote: > Date: 26 Apr 1995 16:25:58 GMT > From: Mike Dorrington > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Pine and X400 > > Can Pine 3.91 handle X400 addressing? > ======================================================= > / > \ / / > \\\' , / // > \\\//, _/ //, Mike Dorrington > \_-//' / //<, m1dorrin@attmail.com > \ /// / >> \\\`__/_ 202 452 5002 (fax) > /,)-~>> _\` \\\ 202 452 5027 (voice) > (/ \\ //\\ > // // \\\ > (( (( > ======================================================= > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 11:44:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19141; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:44:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22397; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:30:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22388; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:30:48 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19876; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:30:37 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 11:30:34 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Gotthard Saghi-Szabo Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Display of sending person's name in folders In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine assumes that if you sent the message, it is more useful to show who you sent it to, particularly in the sent-mail folder where this occurs most frequently... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 26 Apr 1995, Gotthard Saghi-Szabo wrote: > Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 14:16:45 -0400 > From: Gotthard Saghi-Szabo > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Display of sending person's name in folders > > Hi, > sometimes PINE displays messages with the To: xxxxxx > part of the header in an open folder. > E.g. In my open news folder I get > > 47 Apr 22 To: hungary@Glue.umd.edu Washington, D.C. - Free jazz concert > > (instead > 47 Apr 22 Gotthard Saghi-Szabo ... > ) > > And here is the letter's full header: > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Path: mojo.eng.umd.edu!mineral.umd.edu!gotthard > From: Gotthard Saghi-Szabo > Newsgroups: soc.culture.magyar,bit.listserv.hungary > Subject: Washington, D.C. - Free jazz concert > Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 11:03:51 -0400 > Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park, MD > Lines: 17 > Message-ID: > NNTP-Posting-Host: mineral.umd.edu > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > X-Sender: gotthard@mineral.umd.edu > To: hungary@Glue.umd.edu > Xref: mojo.eng.umd.edu soc.culture.magyar:11123 bit.listserv.hungary:3739 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Please, tell me how to correct it. > Sincerely, > Gotthard > -- > URL : http://www.glue.umd.edu/~gotthard > personal email : gotthard@Glue.umd.edu > Hungarian-American list : hungary@Glue.umd.edu > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 11:44:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19151; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:44:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09586; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:32:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09580; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:32:30 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19904; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:32:04 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 11:32:03 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Michael Bruce Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC Pine In-Reply-To: <1995Apr27.140339.26992@henson.cc.wwu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/ |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 27 Apr 1995, Michael Bruce wrote: > Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 14:03:39 GMT > From: Michael Bruce > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: PC Pine > > Where can I find the program PC PINE? > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 11:45:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19208; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:45:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22311; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:25:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22305; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:25:29 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19659; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:25:23 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 11:25:21 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Justin Hamilton Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Bulk Mailing In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Justin, When you use Bcc:, make sure you have some entry in the To: or sendmail may add Apparently-To: headers. One possibility is something like: To: Blind to all recipients:; The ":;" effectively makes the line a comment, but it satisfies most sendmails... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 26 Apr 1995, Justin Hamilton wrote: > Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 11:05:19 -0500 > From: Justin Hamilton > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Bulk Mailing > > I am trying to send a mail message to about 50 people. I know I can do > this by creating the file withe users names in it, but I don't want one > users to see the list of all 50 people. I have tried to use bcc but it still > doesn't work. Is this a limitaion of pine or am I over looking something. > > Justin Hamilton > Jah@okway.okstate.edu > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 11:48:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19396; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:48:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09786; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:37:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09780; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:37:55 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20087; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:37:52 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 11:37:50 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jerry Lynch Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Getting that nice '+' with forwarded mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII it will be in 3.92... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 27 Apr 1995, Jerry Lynch wrote: > Date: 27 Apr 1995 17:15:20 -0400 > From: Jerry Lynch > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Getting that nice '+' with forwarded mail > > > Is there any way to get the '+' sign to appear in front mail that you > receive that is to an alternate address? > > I have my mail forwarding from other places. > I also subscribe to several mailing lists. > > It would be nice if I could somehow get it to put the plus in front > of _all_ the mail that is specifically to me...not just specifically to > the address I am checking? > > Is this possible? If not, could it be in the 3.92? (Or is it more > trouble than it's worth?) > > Thanks... > Jerry > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 11:48:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19412; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:48:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09778; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:37:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09772; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:37:44 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20016; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:36:27 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 11:36:25 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: chang s l Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Kicking out when resuming postponed message In-Reply-To: <3nop11$r14@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is a known bug that will be fixed in Pine 3.92... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 27 Apr 1995, chang s l wrote: > Date: 27 Apr 1995 18:50:09 GMT > From: chang s l > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Kicking out when resuming postponed message > > A user was kicked out of PINE after she answered "y" to the question > "Continue postponed composition ...?" > > Checking the user's (shd) top directory, I found the following files. > > -rw------- 1 shd users 0 Apr 20 08:03 .pine-interrupted-mail > -rw-rw-rw- 2 shd users 0 Apr 20 08:03 .pine-interrupted-mail.loc > k > -rw-rw-rw- 2 shd users 0 Apr 20 08:03 .pine-interrupted-mail.loc > k.798379387.23023.cos1 > -rw------- 1 shd users 0 Apr 20 12:54 .pine-interrupted-mail.loc > k.798396851.55630.cos1 > -rw-rw-rw- 1 shd users 0 Apr 27 09:05 .pine-interrupted-mail.loc > k.798987957.31658.cos1 > > Once these files were removed, the problem disappeared. The user is > using Pine 3.91 on an AIX machine. Has anyone had this problem? > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 11:57:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19968; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:57:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10125; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:51:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10119; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:51:22 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20621; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:51:19 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 11:51:16 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Mark Turrin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Debug Problem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Start Pine with the "-d0" command line option... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 27 Apr 1995, Mark Turrin wrote: > Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 14:57:02 -0700 (PDT) > From: Mark Turrin > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Pine Debug Problem > > I've installed Pine version 3.89 on a AIX 4.1.1 and I can't seem to turn > off debug. Debug files are generated in users directories. Any > suggestions? > > Thank you.. > > ___________________________________________________________________ > Mark L. Turrin Phone: 510-937-7473 > mlt@bidnet.com Fax: 510-256-8357 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 11:57:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20004; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:57:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22845; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:49:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22838; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:49:24 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20583; Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:49:15 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 11:49:13 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Rick Macklem Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: 3.90 startup buglet In-Reply-To: <3np1ql$dc3@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Signal handling is better in Pine 3.91 and will be cleaned up much more in Pine 3.92... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 27 Apr 1995, Rick Macklem wrote: > Date: 27 Apr 1995 21:20:21 GMT > From: Rick Macklem > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: 3.90 startup buglet > > Sometimes pine 3.90 loops (actually repeatedly segmentation faults) when > started up from an rlogin session to a NetBSD 1.0 system. The problem is > that init_signals() is called before config_screen() in pine/pine.c and if > a SIGWINCH is posted between the two calls, the ttyo pointer isn't set up.\ > > Although there are several ways to fix this, the following one line change > does the trick. (I couldn't see a bugs email address in the doc, so I am > posting it here...) > > rick > --- diff -c pine/signals.c --- > *** signals.c.bak Tue Apr 25 16:03:52 1995 > --- signals.c Tue Apr 25 16:34:57 1995 > *************** > *** 306,312 **** > { > dprint(9,(debugfile, "SIGWINCH ready_for_winch: %d winch_occured:%d\n", > ready_for_winch, winch_occured)); > ! get_windsize(ps_global->ttyo); > if(ready_for_winch) > longjmp(winch_state, 1); > else > --- 306,313 ---- > { > dprint(9,(debugfile, "SIGWINCH ready_for_winch: %d winch_occured:%d\n", > ready_for_winch, winch_occured)); > ! if (ps_global->ttyo) > ! get_windsize(ps_global->ttyo); > if(ready_for_winch) > longjmp(winch_state, 1); > else > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 13:36:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24111; Fri, 28 Apr 95 13:36:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12583; Fri, 28 Apr 95 13:31:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hopper.acs.ryerson.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12577; Fri, 28 Apr 95 13:31:14 -0700 Received: from [141.117.9.14] by hopper.acs.ryerson.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA41739; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 16:32:28 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 16:32:29 -0900 (PDT) From: Marc Elbirt To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Printing in PC-Pine for Windows X-Sender: mElbirt@hopper.acs.ryerson.ca Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When I print in Windows, I get condensed print (132 columns, about 100 lines per page). This is unacceptable and unreadable. How do I change this to a more standard printout of 80 columns and 60 lines per page? I tried Setup|Printer from the Main Menu, but the program responds with nothing but a short pause. I am running Windows for Workgroups 3.11 with an HP LaserJet IIIp, all properly configured. I am using Pine 3.91, downloaded about 4 weeks ago. Thank you in advance, Marc Elbirt Undersecretary to the Dean ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Faculty of Applied Arts Ryerson Polytechnic University 350 Victoria Street Phone: (416) 979-5012 Toronto, Ontario Fax: (416) 979-5226 Canada M5B 2K3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you in advance, From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 14:06:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25516; Fri, 28 Apr 95 14:06:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13288; Fri, 28 Apr 95 13:59:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13282; Fri, 28 Apr 95 13:59:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4x1U-00038RC; Fri, 28 Apr 95 13:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andy Behrens Subject: New newsgroup bug Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 15:00:41 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If I "Goto" a newsgroup that I have not previously subscribed to, Pine 3.91 will automatically subscribe me to it, and will add it to my .newsrc file. The only problem is, it doesn't do it correctly. The line that gets written to the .newsrc file has an extra character (hex FF) before the name of the group, and is missing the newline character after the list of article numbers. Andy -- Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. (Anne Herbert) Andy Behrens Burlington Coat Factory, Schoolhouse Lane, Etna, N.H. 03750 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 14:24:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26322; Fri, 28 Apr 95 14:24:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25965; Fri, 28 Apr 95 14:14:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25959; Fri, 28 Apr 95 14:14:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4xBt-00038RC; Fri, 28 Apr 95 14:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fuzzy Subject: Misconfigured News Reader Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 20:36:02 GMT Message-Id: seems like every time I post something thru pine 3.91 the organization field in the display is replaced by "Fuzzy at Misconfigured News Reader" wondered where we have to set the value for pine to find it. tin 1.22 finds it in environment variable ORGANIZATION which I set in /etc/csh.cshrc and /etc/profile for the various shells. thnaks in advance.... Fuzzy sysadmin, asarian.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 14:43:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27261; Fri, 28 Apr 95 14:43:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26449; Fri, 28 Apr 95 14:36:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26442; Fri, 28 Apr 95 14:36:51 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24635; Fri, 28 Apr 95 14:36:50 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 14:36:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: forcing mail check In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The mail check interval will be configurable in the next version of pine. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 14:48:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27440; Fri, 28 Apr 95 14:48:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26531; Fri, 28 Apr 95 14:39:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26525; Fri, 28 Apr 95 14:39:08 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24741; Fri, 28 Apr 95 14:39:04 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 14:39:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Gotthard Saghi-Szabo Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Display of sending person's name in folders In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This will be configurable in the next release. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Fri, 28 Apr 1995, David L Miller wrote: > Pine assumes that if you sent the message, it is more useful to show who > you sent it to, particularly in the sent-mail folder where this occurs > most frequently... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 15:48:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00222; Fri, 28 Apr 95 15:48:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15733; Fri, 28 Apr 95 15:40:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15727; Fri, 28 Apr 95 15:40:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4ybu-00038SC; Fri, 28 Apr 95 15:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: u9107543@muss.cis.mcmaster.ca (THE NORMAL) Subject: User Name Message-Id: <3nkn45$nnk@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA> Date: 26 Apr 1995 01:53:09 -0400 How can I configure my 'pinerc' file so that when i start pine it prompts my for my personal name, or user name? I've seen this done before, so I imagine it is possible. Thanks. -- _ _ _ THE \| |___ _ _ _ __ __ _| | A tear of petrol, is in your eye | .` / _ \ '_| ' \/ _` | | The handbrake, penetrates your thigh |_|\_\___/_| |_|_|_\__,_|_| Quick, lets make love, before you die From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 16:28:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02042; Fri, 28 Apr 95 16:28:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28608; Fri, 28 Apr 95 16:20:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28602; Fri, 28 Apr 95 16:20:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s4zHX-00038RC; Fri, 28 Apr 95 16:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Richards Subject: Re: suggestion Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 14:32:46 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I agree with John's Suggestion. It is very not to be able to change the print command on the fly. I usually filter my printing through a postscript formatter, sometimes, I would like to print the file differently. No easy way now. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Richards Xylogics, Inc. 53 Third Avenue / Burlington MA 01803-4491 Fax: On 28 Apr 1995, John Andrea wrote: > Heres a suggestion for printers, > instead of just locking in a single configuration how about during > the print command allowing for an option to modify the current print > command. > So that if it comes up with lpr -Pprinter > the options are yes no and modify, and selecting modify allows you to > change the name of the printer for this message. > -- > __________________________________________________________________ > John Andrea St. Francis Xavier Univ. > University Computer Services Antigonish, NS, CANADA B2G 2W5 > http://www.stfx.ca/people/jandrea/ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 18:09:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05972; Fri, 28 Apr 95 18:09:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18999; Fri, 28 Apr 95 18:05:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18993; Fri, 28 Apr 95 18:05:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s50pm-00038RC; Fri, 28 Apr 95 17:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Justin Hamilton Subject: Mass Mailing's Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 08:36:27 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am trying to send a news letter out to fifty people. I don't want each user to see the list of fifty people. Is thier a way to send it with out having such a big list of people. $ Justin Hamilton Jah@okway.okstate.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 19:14:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07460; Fri, 28 Apr 95 19:14:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01241; Fri, 28 Apr 95 19:10:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01235; Fri, 28 Apr 95 19:10:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s51tX-00038RC; Fri, 28 Apr 95 19:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Clyde E. Bowman III" Subject: Re: Kill files in pine Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 15:20:58 -0700 (EDT) Message-Id: References: <3no1f9$hp1@DGS.dgsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3no1f9$hp1@DGS.dgsys.com> Enable aggregate command set in config type ;aad in usegroup On 27 Apr 1995, John Vogel wrote: > > Is there a way to set up a kill file to eliminate some mail from > listservs? > Can this be done in Pine? > > Thanks, > > John Vogel > (jvogel@dgs.dgsys.com) > > *************************************** * * * Clyde //, // * * E. \ /, / >. * * Bowman \ /, / >. * * III \ /, / >. * * \ /, / >. * * ceb3pl \ /, _/ /. * * @ \_ /_/ /. * * eagle. \__/_ < * * stark. /<<< \_\_ * * k12. /,)^>>_._ \ * * oh. (/ \\ \\\ * * us // ~~~ * * ((` * * * *************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 19:50:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08120; Fri, 28 Apr 95 19:50:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20418; Fri, 28 Apr 95 19:46:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20410; Fri, 28 Apr 95 19:46:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s52UL-00038RC; Fri, 28 Apr 95 19:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rflukes@silver.cs.umanitoba.ca (Richard F. Lukes) Subject: In "sent" folder, what does "n" mean? Date: 28 Apr 1995 19:24:07 GMT Message-Id: <3nrfcn$25m@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> Hello, I am asking this question on behalf of one of our users. I have looked through the documentation and the FAQ but can't find an explanation. In the "sent" folder, what does the "n" mean on a message? The status of these never seems to change, even if the user reads them... Any ideas appreciated. Thanks, --Rich -- Richard F. Lukes rflukes@cs.umanitoba.ca Computer Science Department University of Manitoba HOME: (204)-257-6701 Winnipeg, Manitoba CANADA WORK: (204)-474-8696 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 20:43:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09138; Fri, 28 Apr 95 20:43:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02131; Fri, 28 Apr 95 20:40:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02125; Fri, 28 Apr 95 20:40:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s53LV-00038RC; Fri, 28 Apr 95 20:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: al384@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Andrew Aitkens) Subject: Pine on stand-alone PC Message-Id: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 21:18:07 GMT Pardon if this is a dumb question, but I hope someone can help me! I just ftp'd Pine and it seems to be for network users only. Is this the case? I'm trying to get it to work on my PC at home, so I can use it with my commercial provider, but I can't seem to get the pctcp.ini information that I need, and the docs lead to me to believe that I'm expected to be on a network. (I'm not even really sure what pctcp means!) Any help would be appreciated! Thanks, Andrew From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 21:50:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10794; Fri, 28 Apr 95 21:50:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22037; Fri, 28 Apr 95 21:46:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22031; Fri, 28 Apr 95 21:46:43 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 29 Apr 95 12:45:27 -0800 Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 12:45:27 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: David L Miller Cc: Mike Dorrington , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and X400 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 28 Apr 1995, David L Miller wrote: > Pine is an Internet mailer, not an X.400 mailer, but I have seen people > use something like "x400_address@gateway.domain"... Also, if the local sendmail is part of an X.400 gateway implementation it can handle: /c=us/admd=attmail/prmd=...../ > > On 26 Apr 1995, Mike Dorrington wrote: > > > Date: 26 Apr 1995 16:25:58 GMT > > From: Mike Dorrington > > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > Subject: Pine and X400 > > > > Can Pine 3.91 handle X400 addressing? Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 22:39:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11847; Fri, 28 Apr 95 22:39:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22677; Fri, 28 Apr 95 22:35:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22671; Fri, 28 Apr 95 22:35:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5528-00038RC; Fri, 28 Apr 95 22:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Christopher Steven Williams Subject: Printing Problem Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 21:11:31 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII At the University of Oregon, the only way anyone knows who to print from pine is by useing the printer at the computing center, or by saving it onto our account and pulling it off as a text file through another program. Is there any way to set up which printer pine will print to? All our printer (most) our connected to each other in one way or another. ---------------------------------------------------- Christopher Williams cwilliam@gladstone.uoregon.edu http://gladstone.uoregon.edu:80/~cwilliam/index.html ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 28 23:05:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12367; Fri, 28 Apr 95 23:05:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23049; Fri, 28 Apr 95 23:02:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from actcom.co.il by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23037; Fri, 28 Apr 95 23:02:37 -0700 Received: from galtronics.UUCP by actcom.co.il with UUCPgaltronics (8.6.10/actcom-0.1) id QAA29432; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 16:24:40 +0300 (rfc931-sender: uucp@localhost) Received: by aviion.galtronics.co.il (5.4R2.10/ACTCOM-GALTRONICS-S-1.0) id AA07744; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 16:01:47 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 16:01:47 +0000 (GMT) From: Aladdin Khamis To: Isaac Hepworth Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Silly question In-Reply-To: <3nlglq$igb@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 26 Apr 1995, Isaac Hepworth wrote: > Silly question, but the right place to put it I think : > > Why is pine called pine? > Hi Isaac, I got this from pine most frequent asked questions: From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What is Pine? Pine(tm) --a Program for Internet News & Email-- is a tool for reading, sending, and managing electronic messages. It was designed specifically with novice computer users in mind, but can be tailored to accommodate the needs of power users as well. Pine uses Internet message protocols (e.g. RFC822, SMTP, MIME, IMAP, and NNTP) and runs on Unix, MS-DOS, and MS Windows. The guiding principles for Pine's user-interface were: careful limitation of features, one-character mnemonic commands, always-present command menus, immediate user feedback, and high tolerance for user mistakes. It is intended that Pine can be learned by exploration rather than reading manuals. It has the ability to perform full screen editing of messages, include and extract attachments (such as Word or Excel files), and other advanced message system features. Pine uses IMAP for accessing message folders on remote computers and MIME for sending multimedia or other binary files as attachments to normal messages. P.s. Can you help me out with finding a better speller for pine than the unix speller, I will really appreciate that. > -- > Isaac Hepworth ijh1000@cam.ac.uk > Computer Representative, Corpus Christi College > >--|\/\/\/|------------------------------------ >| | | | E-mail: khamis@galtronics.co.il | Aladdin Khamis >| | (o)(o) '--/ /----------------------------- >| C _) // | Information Systems Department >| | ,___| / | Galtronics Ltd. >---| /-------------------- P.O.Box 1589 Tiberias 14115 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 29 01:02:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14463; Sat, 29 Apr 95 01:02:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04657; Sat, 29 Apr 95 00:58:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04651; Sat, 29 Apr 95 00:58:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s57GK-00038RC; Sat, 29 Apr 95 00:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brennan@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Joseph Brennan) Subject: Re: Pico limitations Date: 27 Apr 1995 14:25:55 GMT Message-Id: <3no9hj$s8r@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <3nehs2$h23@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <3nf2nl$jeg@grape.epix.net> Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: >: 1) The "long lines wrapped" problem. When Pico reads in a file, if there >: are lines longer than X, then the lines are split. > Well now, what other choices are there?? It could run them off the >page or truncate them. How about leaving the file the way it is? I guess you've never seen program source code or dot files where the location of line breaks is significant. You can't just insert newlines willynilly. Pico's flaw, to put a fine point on it, is breaking long lines without any warning to the user. Take a look at a .newsrc file that has been maintained by trn for a while. Each newsgroup gets one line with a list of article numbers that have been marked read (or "deleted" in pine's language). Some such lines are long strings of numbers, because the user has skipped around and read articles here and there. Lines longer than some limit-- is it 256 characters perhaps?-- will be split by pico as it reads in the file, with no comment on screen. This makes the file unusable by trn, since it is supposed to have one line per newsgroup. Strangely, if you happen to notice what happened, and delete the unwanted newlines, pico can do it, and when you write the file back to disk, pico can do it. It just can't read such long lines from disk. That's a bug. Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York brennan@columbia.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 29 02:12:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16054; Sat, 29 Apr 95 02:12:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05491; Sat, 29 Apr 95 02:09:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05485; Sat, 29 Apr 95 02:09:41 -0700 Received: from opava.utia.cas.cz by visla.utia.cas.cz with SMTP (16.7/16.2) id AA16284; Sat, 29 Apr 95 11:07:51 +0200 Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 10:07:09 -0200 (CDT) From: "Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD?=) at Opava.UTIA.CAS.Cz" To: The Pine Discussion List Subject: PC pine & not enough memory X-Sender: vs@tamara.utia.cas.cz Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Does anyone now if PC pine (packet driver version) uses EMS or XMS and=20 which of them? I installed it yesterday and at least 11 times I finished=20 after sending a mail with this error report without any previous warning.= =20 Today I was not able to reply to a message 830 bytes long. Pine doesn't=20 finish its work in this case but doesn't allow me to do the required=20 action. But today I also sent a bug report containing the message=20 mentioned above (for a different reason) and although pine displayed a=20 warning that memory is low and it may not be able to send it=20 successfully, it succeeded. I use MS DOS 5.00 network driver and native=20 language drivers, nothing more (I think I have more than 530 KB). So=20 questions are: 1) does pine use EMS or XMS and which one?=20 2) Why pine finish its work without any warning while sending a message? 3) Why I could not ryply although I could report a bug using a much=20 longer message? I do not know if anyone has similar experiences. Any suggestion or answer= =20 will be appreciated, esspecially from the Pine Development Team. V. S. P. S. Sorry for my English :-) | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz Europe Files (with description!) place to ftp://ftp.utia.cas.cz/pub/income/vs Maybe valid: http://www.utia.cas.cz/home/WWW/data/user_data/vs/vs-home.http From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 29 04:11:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18937; Sat, 29 Apr 95 04:11:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27049; Sat, 29 Apr 95 04:07:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27043; Sat, 29 Apr 95 04:07:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5AFc-00038RC; Sat, 29 Apr 95 03:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hllywood@tpts1.seed.net.tw (Hollywood) Subject: WATTCP.CFG file missing from Pine for WIndows Date: 27 Apr 1995 12:41:49 GMT Message-Id: <3no3ed$lak@aladdin.iii.org.tw> I got the Windows version of Pine and it is missing the wattcp.cfg (the configuration file). It wasn't in the originial zip file. If anyone has a "blank" copy (leave out your password/etc) can you send it to me via email? Thank you. -Hollywood PS. or (less preferably) tell me an ftp site. Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 29 05:00:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19894; Sat, 29 Apr 95 05:00:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07212; Sat, 29 Apr 95 04:57:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07206; Sat, 29 Apr 95 04:57:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5B1A-00038TC; Sat, 29 Apr 95 04:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Clyde E. Bowman III" Subject: Row height in pine Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:24:58 -0700 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Could anyone tell me how to make pine longer in row? Right now it's approx 19. Can it be lengthened to fit one's screen? Thanks ahead of time. . . Clyde *************************************** * * * Clyde //, // * * E. \ /, / >. * * Bowman \ /, / >. * * III \ /, / >. * * \ /, / >. * * ceb3pl \ /, _/ /. * * @ \_ /_/ /. * * eagle. \__/_ < * * stark. /<<< \_\_ * * k12. /,)^>>_._ \ * * oh. (/ \\ \\\ * * us // ~~~ * * ((` * * * *************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 29 05:25:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20426; Sat, 29 Apr 95 05:25:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07435; Sat, 29 Apr 95 05:23:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from is1.hk.super.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07429; Sat, 29 Apr 95 05:23:16 -0700 Received: by is1.hk.super.net id AA20720 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Sat, 29 Apr 1995 20:21:50 +0800 Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 20:21:49 +0800 (HKT) From: Kevin Yeung To: Aladdin Khamis Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Silly question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 27 Apr 1995, Aladdin Khamis wrote: > On Wed, 26 Apr 1995, Isaac Hepworth wrote: > > > > Why is pine called pine? > > > Pine(tm) --a Program for Internet News & Email-- is a tool for reading, That's fun. Versions before 3.91 can't handle news, if I'm not mistaken. -- Kevin Yeung email: keviny@hk.super.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 29 08:12:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22999; Sat, 29 Apr 95 08:12:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29805; Sat, 29 Apr 95 08:08:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29799; Sat, 29 Apr 95 08:08:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5E03-00038TC; Sat, 29 Apr 95 08:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ha4bro@orac.sunderland.ac.uk (ben.rose) Subject: Re: New Mail Check from Remote Pine Date: 28 Apr 1995 15:42:35 +0100 Message-Id: <3nqusr$8a6@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> References: <3n3t50$avu@telerama.lm.com> barry@telerama.lm.com wrote: : I use pine in a window on a workstation at work to monitor personal : email received at a local ISP. Periodically, pine tells me there : is new mail. There doesn't appear to be a way to force pine (other : than by exiting and restarting) to do a new mail check. It sometimes : appears that there is new mail available, but pine takes its time : about telling me that the new mail is available. For example, I : Is there a way to force a check? I couldn't find anything under other : commands. Can the check interval be configured? Well, I'm new at this game but I do know how to force a check (at least it works on my system). If you select inbox from the folder list and then hit ctrl+l any new items are instantly added to your box. Hope this helps. As for ignoring the interval...no idea...can anyone else help? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This letter was brought to you in association with:- Ben Rose of Sunderland, England aka ha4bro@orac.sunderland.ac.uk ******** Why is there so much month left at the end of the money? ******** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 29 08:24:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23276; Sat, 29 Apr 95 08:24:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29990; Sat, 29 Apr 95 08:21:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29984; Sat, 29 Apr 95 08:21:00 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02824; Sat, 29 Apr 95 08:20:50 -0700 Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 08:20:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Hollywood Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: WATTCP.CFG file missing from Pine for WIndows In-Reply-To: <3no3ed$lak@aladdin.iii.org.tw> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The wattcp.cfg file is not needed for the *windows* version of pc-pine. PC-Pine for Windows does not use Waterloo TCP; it uses your favorite Winsock/TCP-IP stack. -teg On 27 Apr 1995, Hollywood wrote: > I got the Windows version of Pine and it is missing the > wattcp.cfg (the configuration file). It wasn't in the originial > zip file. If anyone has a "blank" copy (leave out your password/etc) > can you send it to me via email? > > Thank you. > > > -Hollywood > > PS. or (less preferably) tell me an ftp site. Thanks. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 29 08:45:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23660; Sat, 29 Apr 95 08:45:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09182; Sat, 29 Apr 95 08:43:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09176; Sat, 29 Apr 95 08:43:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5EYN-00038RC; Sat, 29 Apr 95 08:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Darren Spurgeon Subject: Sending to a number of people Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 10:20:57 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I realize I'm not the first person to ask this, but how do I send a single message to more than one person. I heard talk about setting up a separate file to handle the names. How can I do that? And can I simply type all addresses in the "TO:" line? Thanks... ----------------------------------------------------------------- Darren Spurgeon | "Science is organized common sense | University of Florida | where many a beautiful theory was | afn16300@freenet.ufl.edu | killed by an ugly fact." - Huxley | ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 29 10:38:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25811; Sat, 29 Apr 95 10:38:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01744; Sat, 29 Apr 95 10:32:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01738; Sat, 29 Apr 95 10:32:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5GJQ-00038RC; Sat, 29 Apr 95 10:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hal9001@panix.com (Robert A. Rosenberg) Subject: Re: "xbtoa Begin" string?... Date: Sat, 29 Apr 95 03:26:34 GMT Message-Id: References: <3n35m7$jjq@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> In Article <3n35m7$jjq@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca>, ngolego@uoguelph.ca (Nickolay V Golego) wrote: >Hi there, > >I received the message in Pmail which looks like: > >xbtoa Begin >[...] >xbtoa End [...] > >Could anyone give me a hint how to decode and read it? Usual uudecode >didn't work on it. > >Thanks, > >-- > Nick > You've already had the format identified for you so I'll get direct to how to possibly convert it. Since I assume you are either a Shell-Only user and/or use a PC as opposed to a Macintosh as your computer, thus the following will be of limited use to you (although it could be useful to Macintosh owning lurkers who need to handle AtoB/BtoA. StuffIt Deluxe (one of the Major Macintosh Archiving Programs [it is the one that generates SIT files]) comes with a number of Translators - One of these is AtoB/BtoA. Thus this program is your solution to converting the file via a Macintosh Program. There should be (I think) MS-DOS and UNIX AtoB (ASCII to Binary) Utilities in the respective Internet Archive Sites but I am not going to state this with 100% certainty. A quick Archie [?] with the keyword of AtoB (and/or BtoA) should locate them. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 29 11:08:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26348; Sat, 29 Apr 95 11:08:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10677; Sat, 29 Apr 95 10:53:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10671; Sat, 29 Apr 95 10:53:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5GbK-00038RC; Sat, 29 Apr 95 10:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Finn Hybjerg Hansen Subject: Bug (ID Y777J): Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:47:31 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-1903590565-798272750=:15546" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-1903590565-798272750=:15546 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Hi Pine Developers & users I guess Pine first of all is a mail-program, so maybe you do not accept the following as a bug, but if Pine should be used as a news-tool, support for the correct news-headers should also be included. Our problem is that we want a 'Organization'-header in our news-postings with a default value (name of our University). Doing that also makes the 'Organization'-header occur in normal mails, where the header do not belong. I therefore suggest, that new versions of Pine will exclude headers in normal mails that do not belong there. If this is already possible, I have not been able to find out how, and I'm sorry to have bothered you. I would however like to know if possible how it is done, or if pine will support this in the future. Regards from Finn in Denmark ----------------------------------- --------------------------------------- Name : Finn Hybjerg Hansen | Aalborg University Email : fhh@kom.auc.dk | Institute of Electronic Systems Phone : +45 98 15 85 22 | Department of Communication Technology Direct: +45 98 15 42 11 - 4807 | Fredrik Bajers Vej 7A (Room A1-203) Fax : +45 98 15 67 40 | DK-9220 Aalborg O. ,,, WWW : http://www-i8.auc.dk/~fhh/ | DENMARK (o o) ----------------------------------- ------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo---- ---559023410-1903590565-798272750=:15546 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = fhh, full = Finn Hybjerg Hansen home = /home/fhh home_dir= /home/fhh hostname= skoda.kom.auc.dk localdom= kom.auc.dk userdom= kom.auc.dk maildom= kom.auc.dk cur_cntxt= *{news.iesd.auc.dk/nntp}[] cur_fldr= comp.mail.pine actual mbox= *{news.iesd.auc.dk/nntp}comp.mail.pine msgmap: tot=45, cur=1, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=OrderedSubj actual inbox= /var/mail/fhh inbox map: tot=19, cur=19, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=OrderedSubj term type=xterm, ttyname=/dev/pts/4, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Finn Hybjerg Hansen user-id : fhh user-domain : kom.auc.dk nntp-server : news.iesd.auc.dk inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : mail/[] news-collections : Subscribed-Groups *{news.iesd.auc.dk/nntp}[] default-fcc : sentmail.fhh postponed-folder : postpone.fhh mail-directory : mail signature-file : /home/fhh/myfiles/sign1 address-book : .addressbook feature-list : auto-open-next-unread : delete-skips-deleted : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expunge-without-confirm : include-text-in-reply : quit-without-confirm : save-will-quote-leading-froms : save-will-advance : show-selected-in-boldface : signature-at-bottom : user-lookup-even-if-domain-mismatch : auto-open-next-unread : delete-skips-deleted : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expunge-without-confirm : quit-without-confirm : save-will-quote-leading-froms : save-will-advance : show-selected-in-boldface : user-lookup-even-if-domain-mismatch : news-post-without-validation : use-current-dir : news-approximates-new-status : enable-alternate-editor-cmd initial-keystroke-li : i default-composer-hdr : Subject: : Cc: : To: customized-hdrs : Organization: Aalborg University IES/KOM : Followup-To: : Approved: saved-msg-name-rule : last-folder-used fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : OrderedSubj addrbook-sort-rule : nickname character-set : ISO-8859-1 editor : mkpgp use-only-domain-name : no printer : mp -F -l | lp -dlwa1 personal-print-comma : mp -F -l | lp -dlwa1 standard-printer : lp last-time-prune-ques : 95.4 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/home/fhh/.pinerc) ======= personal-name : Finn Hybjerg Hansen user-domain : kom.auc.dk nntp-server : news.iesd.auc.dk news-collections : Subscribed-Groups *{news.iesd.auc.dk/nntp}[] default-fcc : sentmail.fhh postponed-folder : postpone.fhh signature-file : ~/myfiles/sign1 feature-list : auto-open-next-unread : delete-skips-deleted : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expunge-without-confirm : quit-without-confirm : save-will-quote-leading-froms : save-will-advance : show-selected-in-boldface : user-lookup-even-if-domain-mismatch : news-post-without-validation : use-current-dir : news-approximates-new-status : enable-alternate-editor-cmd initial-keystroke-li : i default-composer-hdr : Subject: : Cc: : To: customized-hdrs : Organization: Aalborg University IES/KOM : Followup-To: : Approved: saved-msg-name-rule : last-folder-used fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : OrderedSubj addrbook-sort-rule : nickname character-set : ISO-8859-1 editor : mkpgp printer : mp -F -l | lp -d$LPDEST personal-print-comma : mp -F -l | lp -d$LPDEST last-time-prune-ques : 95.4 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/pack/pine-3.91/lib/pine.conf) ======= user-domain : kom.auc.dk nntp-server : news.iesd.auc.dk inbox-path : inbox news-collections : Subscribed-Groups *{news.iesd.auc.dk/nntp}[] default-fcc : mbox.out postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook feature-list : auto-open-next-unread : delete-skips-deleted : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expunge-without-confirm : include-text-in-reply : quit-without-confirm : save-will-quote-leading-froms : save-will-advance : show-selected-in-boldface : signature-at-bottom : user-lookup-even-if-domain-mismatch initial-keystroke-li : i saved-msg-name-rule : last-folder-used fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last character-set : ISO-8859-1 use-only-domain-name : no printer : mp -F -l | lp -d$LPDEST personal-print-comma : mp -F -l | lp -d$LPDEST standard-printer : lp bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd enable-aggregate-command-set enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly enable-bounce-cmd enable-flag-cmd enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue enable-suspend enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply include-text-in-reply news-approximates-new-status news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file quit-without-confirm save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom use-current-dir no-use-function-keys ---559023410-1903590565-798272750=:15546-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 29 12:47:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28585; Sat, 29 Apr 95 12:47:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03461; Sat, 29 Apr 95 12:42:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03455; Sat, 29 Apr 95 12:42:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5IHm-00038RC; Sat, 29 Apr 95 12:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jlgodard@crl.com (Shinichi Yoshimoto) Subject: NEWS SERVER: HELP! Date: 28 Apr 1995 23:52:56 -0700 Message-Id: <3nsno8$n9d@crl10.crl.com> I'm struggling to set up my PINE to access to news groups. Where can I find the list of available remote or local news server? I tried 'news.ucla.edu' and received the message, "connection refused'. Any help would be appreciated. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 29 13:51:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29966; Sat, 29 Apr 95 13:51:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04288; Sat, 29 Apr 95 13:48:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from netcom8.netcom.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04282; Sat, 29 Apr 95 13:48:10 -0700 Received: by netcom8.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA23541; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 13:47:28 -0700 Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 13:47:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Juanita Fischer X-Sender: juanfisc@netcom8 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How to send to long addresses? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Some of the listservs I subscribe to have addresses consisting of a descriptive phrase followed by the actual address. When I wan to reply or send to such a list, the whole address doesn't fit on one line, so I either have to delete the first part or the message doesn't get sent. Can anyone help? Juanita From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 29 14:20:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00615; Sat, 29 Apr 95 14:20:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04679; Sat, 29 Apr 95 14:18:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04673; Sat, 29 Apr 95 14:18:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5JW6-0003BhC; Sat, 29 Apr 95 13:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lmiller@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx (Larry Miller [DT]) Subject: Missing Date: line handled ungracefully? Date: 28 Apr 1995 17:54:25 -0600 Message-Id: <3nrv7h$rh3@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx> Hi, folks-- We have an interesting situation using Eudora which sends its messages out via an SMTP server here. Appears that Eudora doesn't generate a separate Date: line in the message, and the SMTP server doesn't fill in that gap. So we have messages floating around without Date: lines, and Pine doesn't know how to date them. The date info is THERE, in one of the other lines, and is found by our standard Unix mail program which handles the "dateless" messages with aplomb-- SURELY Pine is smarter than mail...? ;> Before I dig into the code, is there any way to configure Pine to do this, or is this patch material? Thanks-- Larry Miller Administrador de Redes / Network Administrator Centro de Investigaciones Biologicas del Noroeste, La Paz, BCS Mexico lmiller@cibnor.conacyt.mx From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 29 15:23:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01523; Sat, 29 Apr 95 15:23:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13384; Sat, 29 Apr 95 15:19:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13378; Sat, 29 Apr 95 15:19:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5Kml-00038RC; Sat, 29 Apr 95 15:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fuzzy Subject: Re: Misconfigured News Reader Message-Id: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 23:09:23 GMT In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 example of a set of headers created by pine 3.91 for a posting. On Tue, 25 Apr 1995, Fuzzy wrote: > Xref: news2.new-york.net comp.mail.pine:6666 > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Path: news2.new-york.net!ASARian.org!fuzzy > From: Fuzzy > Subject: Misconfigured client newsreader > Nntp-Posting-Host: asarian.org > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Sender: news@news2.new-york.net (Network News) > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Organization: Misconfigured client newsreader > Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 20:36:02 GMT > Message-ID: > Return-Receipt-To: Fuzzy seems like every time I post something thru pine 3.91 the organization header is replaced by: "Misconfigured client newsreader" wondered where we have to set the value for pine to find it. tin 1.22 finds it in environment variable ORGANIZATION which I set in /etc/csh.cshrc and /etc/profile for the various shells. any ideas would be very much appreciated. thanks in advance.... Fuzzy sysadmin, asarian.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 29 21:36:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08171; Sat, 29 Apr 95 21:36:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09721; Sat, 29 Apr 95 21:32:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09715; Sat, 29 Apr 95 21:32:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5QXq-00038TC; Sat, 29 Apr 95 21:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fuzzy Subject: Organization: Misconfigured client newsreader Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 19:22:10 GMT Message-Id: example of a set of headers created by pine 3.91 for a posting. On Tue, 25 Apr 1995, Fuzzy wrote: > Xref: news2.new-york.net comp.mail.pine:6666 > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Path: news2.new-york.net!ASARian.org!fuzzy > From: Fuzzy > Subject: Misconfigured client newsreader > Nntp-Posting-Host: asarian.org > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Sender: news@news2.new-york.net (Network News) > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Organization: Misconfigured client newsreader > Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 20:36:02 GMT > Message-ID: > Return-Receipt-To: Fuzzy seems like every time I post something thru pine 3.91 the organization header is replaced by: "Misconfigured client newsreader" wondered where we have to set the value for pine to find it. tin 1.22 finds it in environment variable ORGANIZATION which I set in /etc/csh.cshrc and /etc/profile for the various shells. any ideas would be very much appreciated. thanks in advance.... Fuzzy sysadmin, asarian.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 00:09:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10656; Sun, 30 Apr 95 00:09:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18143; Sun, 30 Apr 95 00:05:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18137; Sun, 30 Apr 95 00:05:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5SxJ-00038RC; Sat, 29 Apr 95 23:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hugh Subject: Re: NEWS SERVER: HELP! Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 06:26:47 +1200 Message-Id: References: <3nsno8$n9d@crl10.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3nsno8$n9d@crl10.crl.com> On 28 Apr 1995, Shinichi Yoshimoto wrote: > I'm struggling to set up my PINE to access to news groups. Where can I > find the list of available remote or local news server? I tried > 'news.ucla.edu' and received the message, "connection refused'. Any help > would be appreciated. Open up Tin and look at the starting up lines. It should tell you what news server you are accessing. Then go into configuration and add value of what you found under nntp From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 01:53:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12863; Sun, 30 Apr 95 01:53:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12717; Sun, 30 Apr 95 01:50:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12711; Sun, 30 Apr 95 01:50:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5Ua2-00038RC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 01:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mbaker10@scu.edu.au (Fox Mulder) Subject: Re: Sending to a number of people Message-Id: References: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 04:56:26 GMT Darren Spurgeon (afn16300@freenet.ufl.edu) wrote: : I realize I'm not the first person to ask this, but how do I send a : single message to more than one person. I heard talk about setting up a : separate file to handle the names. How can I do that? And can I simply : type all addresses in the "TO:" line? : Thanks... As far as I am aware, you can accomplish this using two methods. Yes, you can send to multiple recipients in the TO: field by using a comma separator. Also, you can set up a mailing list in the address book, using a name for the list eg 'friends'. Cheers, Matt :) mbaker10@scu.edu.au -- ,,, (o o) -=-=-=-oOO--(_)--OOo-=-=-=-=- | MATT BAKER | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 03:32:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14687; Sun, 30 Apr 95 03:32:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20128; Sun, 30 Apr 95 03:26:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20122; Sun, 30 Apr 95 03:26:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5W5A-00038RC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 03:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dgdavis@nyx10.cs.du.edu (DONALD G. DAVIS) Subject: Re: "xbtoa Begin" string?... Date: 29 Apr 1995 17:12:06 -0600 Message-Id: <3nuh46$q8g@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: <3n35m7$jjq@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> <3np3kb$mij@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> khaitan@ix.netcom.com (B Khaitan) writes: >The only atob decoder I know of is atob v1.1 and the zipped file can >commonly be found by the name 'atob11.zip'. I have a question about >how to "unchunk" btoa encoded files because they are usually sent in >64k packets. I have found a BTOA.ZIP and an ATOB.ZIP on ftp sites. The former contains C versions of both BTOA.COM and ATOB.COM. The latter contains a much smaller assembly-language ATOB.EXE without a corresponding btoa. I tried btoa, mime and uuencode on a 520 kb .ZIP file with the following size ASCII-encoded files resulting: btoa 666 kb mime 713 kb uuencode 728 kb It's clear that the btoa method gives the most compact results. Why is btoa not more widely used? --Donald Davis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 04:26:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16250; Sun, 30 Apr 95 04:26:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14626; Sun, 30 Apr 95 04:20:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14620; Sun, 30 Apr 95 04:20:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5WzT-00038XC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 04:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edwards%teaching.physics@ox.ac.uk (David Edwards) Subject: Re: Pico limitations Message-Id: <1995Apr27.205826.11650@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> References: <3nehs2$h23@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <3nf2nl$jeg@grape.epix.net> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 95 20:58:26 BST Jonathan and DearOldDad (jgvd@news.epix.net) wrote: > Well now, what other choices are there?? It could run them off the > page or truncate them. The solution is simple ... set your terminal to > word wrap OUTGOING text at about 70 columns (72 max), so that when > someone includes all or part of your message in the reply, and adds the : > or the > or the # in front, it's still less than 80 columns. This is not the problem. Whether you have word wrap turned on or off, Pico still splits lines longer than about 250 characters when it reads in a file. Note that you can still enter a 250+ character line while editing, just that it can't load them in. Why does thsi matter? Well, appart from being rather a strange limitation, the main problem comes from the "References:" header which can get to quite a size when following up to articles in a long thread. If it gets split, then newsreaders get all confused and half your header ends up in your article. Not very desirable. -- _ _ ==========////==================================================== / //// David Edwards: What's that on your head? \ || _ _ //// http://sable.ox.ac.uk/~worc0058/ || || \\\\ //// edwards.teaching@physics.oxford.ac.uk || \ \\\X/// dwe101@tower.york.ac.uk / ====\XXX/========================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 05:45:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17812; Sun, 30 Apr 95 05:45:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21592; Sun, 30 Apr 95 05:40:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21586; Sun, 30 Apr 95 05:40:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5Y76-00038RC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 05:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thood@ainet.com (Tom Hood) Subject: Re: Another .sig question!!! Message-Id: References: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 02:19:12 GMT Christopher Steven Williams (cwilliam@gladstone.uoregon.edu) wrote: : Is it possible to assign different .sig`s to specific newsgroups? The : one on this letter is the same for every letter and I wanted a .sig that : approprietly matched the newsgroup (like a good quote from startrek for : alt.ensign.wesley.die.die.die). you could just build a bunch of them then ^r them in at the end. works for me. th -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 06:48:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18671; Sun, 30 Apr 95 06:48:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16209; Sun, 30 Apr 95 06:42:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16203; Sun, 30 Apr 95 06:42:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5Z9G-00038RC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 06:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mungerj@hartwick.edu (Justin K. Munger) Subject: VMS version of Pine? Message-Id: <1995Apr29.144325.3613@hartwick.edu> Date: 29 Apr 95 14:43:25 -0500 I was wondering if anyone knew where I could get the source code for the VMS version of Pine? If you could, please respond to my e-mail address. Thank you very much, Justin Munger mungerj@hartwick.edu aa1as@witten.hartwick.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 06:50:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18735; Sun, 30 Apr 95 06:50:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22138; Sun, 30 Apr 95 06:46:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22132; Sun, 30 Apr 95 06:46:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5ZC0-00038XC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 06:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: taner@sluggo.sdsc.edu (Taner Halicioglu) Subject: Pine & PGP Date: 30 Apr 1995 00:37:18 GMT Message-Id: <3num3u$b92@rosebud.sdsc.edu> I have seen about/heard about several scripts to PGP-sign a message that was written in pine, but I was wondering if this is another thing that might be included in the next release of pine or not. One other small thing about pico: It would be nice if I can change the point of word wrap on the fly... instead of automagically being -3 chars from the right edge (or whatever it is) I can set it to column X, or even maybe column 0 if I don't even want to wrap at all... *shrug* just some thoughts... -Taner ___________________________________________________________________________ D. Taner Halicioglu U. of Calif., San Diego - Revelle - CSE U. Grad taner@ucsd.edu Linux 1.2.* OS; http://sdcc8.ucsd.edu/~dhalicio taner@irc.ucsd.edu IRC Admin, irc.ucsd.edu taner@mecca.epri.com EPRI; 3412 Hillview Ave, Palo Alto, CA taner@sdsc.edu Workstation Srvc., San Diego Supercomputer Cntr. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 07:01:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18894; Sun, 30 Apr 95 07:01:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16332; Sun, 30 Apr 95 06:56:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16326; Sun, 30 Apr 95 06:56:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5ZL2-00038RC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 06:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lou3@netcom.com (Louis Lesko) Subject: Pine and NO CARRIER Message-Id: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 00:20:31 GMT I just made the switch from elm to pine 3.91. I love it. However when I use pine I seem to loose my connection every so often. ie NO CARRIER. I have an alias set up in my .login file to access pine in the nuglops directory. Could this be the problem? Would it be better to set my own copy of pine in my home directory? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Why hasn't netcom just updated thier version of pine? -- LOU- _________________________________ "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forego their use." -- Galileo Galilei From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 07:55:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19609; Sun, 30 Apr 95 07:55:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22708; Sun, 30 Apr 95 07:52:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22702; Sun, 30 Apr 95 07:52:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5aFJ-00038ZC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 07:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Douglas M. Bates" Subject: Unix Pine: Must the config be in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf? Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 13:36:07 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am configuring Pine 3.91 for several different types of Unix systems in our department. Because we discourage the use of directories in the /usr/local/ hierarchy, I would like to keep the global configuration file in a location other than /usr/local/lib/pine.conf. I had hoped that there would be a variable in the makefile to set this but I can't see one. In fact, a grep of the source code directory seems to indicate that the name /usr/local/lib/pine.conf occurs as exactly that string in a number of locations in the source code and the help files. Is it the case that using another global configuration file would require replacing that string in many different source files? (Replies via e-mail would be appreciated. I don't know that I will be able to keep up with the volume of traffic on this group.) If that is the case, may I suggest that allowing easy reconfiguration of that name could be something to add to the "TO DO" list? Douglas Bates bates@stat.wisc.edu Statistics Department 608/262-2598 University of Wisconsin - Madison http://www.stat.wisc.edu/~bates/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 08:03:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19742; Sun, 30 Apr 95 08:03:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17084; Sun, 30 Apr 95 08:01:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17078; Sun, 30 Apr 95 08:01:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5aOR-00038XC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 07:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: christ@helios.usq.EDU.AU (stuart christ) Subject: port for mips RISCos 4.52 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 11:37:21 GMT I am after a port of PINE for MIPS RISCos 4.52. If anyone can help please mail me. christ@usq.edu.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 08:40:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20387; Sun, 30 Apr 95 08:40:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23153; Sun, 30 Apr 95 08:37:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23147; Sun, 30 Apr 95 08:37:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5ay3-00038XC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 08:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dave Saville Subject: Resending messages - bug? Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 10:40:20 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have been using the usual suggested methed for resending a message. ie saving to postponed-msgs and then compose. I have noticed the following: I want to re-send a message. Go to sent-mail pick up message Save to postponed-msgs ( message in sent-mail is marked deleted) Compose Send message Message is NOT saved to sent-mail - if you forget to toggle the delete flag you've lost it. Comments??? David C. Saville Tel: +44 1293 556326 Second star on the right and straight on 'til morning. Capt. James T. Kirk (Quoting Peter Pan) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 08:49:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20549; Sun, 30 Apr 95 08:49:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17627; Sun, 30 Apr 95 08:46:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17621; Sun, 30 Apr 95 08:46:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5b65-00038RC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 08:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ckelch@titan.iwu.edu (Curtis Kelch) Subject: Blocking text on Mac Date: 28 Apr 1995 18:43:24 GMT Message-Id: <3nrd0c$6k4@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> We are experiencing problems blocking text on the Macintosh platform. We are using Kermit and NCSA telnet as the telecomunication packages. The ctrl-shift-6 command does not function as it does on the IBM side. Does anyone know how to block text using a Mac with one of these programs? Thanks Curtis ******************************************************************************** Curtis Kelch Illinois Wesleyan University (309) 556-3264 Academic Computer Services ckelch@titan.iwu.edu ******************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 09:17:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21114; Sun, 30 Apr 95 09:17:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23474; Sun, 30 Apr 95 09:11:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23468; Sun, 30 Apr 95 09:11:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5bUy-00038RC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 09:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: M.BOTH@OLN.comlink.apc.org (Moritz Both) Message-Id: <5kr_eIrRH-B@oln-34.oln.comlink.apc.org> Subject: Re: "xbtoa Begin" string?... Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 02:23:00 +0100 References: <3n35m7$jjq@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca>, <3np3kb$mij@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>, Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit dgdavis (dgdavis@nyx10.cs.du.edu) schrieb am 29.04.95: > [...] > It's clear that the btoa method gives the most compact results. > Why is btoa not more widely used? I believe in the first row, that's because btoa uses a set of 85 characters which is known not to be safe in any case to pass through every existing mail transfer mechanism. Some of the characters may become changed or lines could get corrupted. Mime, that is, base64, uses a set of characters which is known to be safe in nearly every case. From RFC 1521: -------------------- 8< --- cut here --------------------------- NOTE: This subset has the important property that it is represented identically in all versions of ISO 646, including US ASCII, and all characters in the subset are also represented identically in all versions of EBCDIC. Other popular encodings, such as the encoding used by the uuencode utility and the base85 encoding specified as part of Level 2 PostScript, do not share these properties, and thus do not fulfill the portability requirements a binary transport encoding for mail must meet. -------------------- 8< --- and here --------------------------- Moritz From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 10:56:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23125; Sun, 30 Apr 95 10:56:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18991; Sun, 30 Apr 95 10:46:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18985; Sun, 30 Apr 95 10:46:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5d0t-00038TC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 10:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Leaving read messages in INBOX Date: 27 Apr 1995 06:31:48 GMT Message-Id: <3nndok$e7p@grape.epix.net> References: Noam Ben Yochanan (noam@brachot.jct.ac.il) wrote: : In elm it's possible to leave read messages in the incomming mail file, : meaning I can leave a message there until I deal with it. Pine doesn't seem : to support this option. It considers every read message as deleted ('D') when : exiting. This really sucks, pardon the expression. I got around it by : undeleting all the messages I want to keep, expunging all the ones I want to : delete and then exiting. This is of course error prone (I made the error That's not true ... from pine main menu type S setup C config and turn off the delete on read (or whatever it's called) option. BTW that is not the default, either you or your server must have turned it on. : Isn't there any way I can just tell the system to treat deleted/saved massges : in a different maner than read messages? i.e. NEVER to have 'D' appear next : to a message that was read but not deleted or saved? maybe an option in : .pinerc I missed or misunderstud? : ____________________ | "When all else fails - : __ _ ___ ___ __ __ | Noam Ben Yochanan | | read the instructions" : | | || _ || _ || | | | noam@sun.jct.ac.il | | - Murphie's book of laws : |_|__||___||_|_||_|_|_| |____________________| | : _______________________________________________________________________________ No, I think the correct quote is "When all else fails - RTFM" PS: There's also a way to limit your line length so they don't fall off screen or unneccesarily wrap. BYE. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 12:14:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24515; Sun, 30 Apr 95 12:14:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19907; Sun, 30 Apr 95 12:05:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from netcom14.netcom.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19901; Sun, 30 Apr 95 12:05:56 -0700 Received: by netcom14.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id MAA05984; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 12:04:54 -0700 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 12:04:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Juanita Fischer X-Sender: juanfisc@netcom14 To: Dave Saville Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Resending messages - bug? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Why go through all that when you can just forward? On Fri, 28 Apr 1995, Dave Saville wrote: > I have been using the usual suggested methed for resending a message. ie > saving to postponed-msgs and then compose. > > I have noticed the following: > > I want to re-send a message. > > Go to sent-mail > pick up message > Save to postponed-msgs ( message in sent-mail is marked deleted) > Compose > Send message > > Message is NOT saved to sent-mail - if you forget to toggle the delete flag > you've lost it. > > Comments??? > > David C. Saville > Tel: +44 1293 556326 > > Second star on the right and straight on 'til morning. > Capt. James T. Kirk (Quoting Peter Pan) > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 12:30:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24863; Sun, 30 Apr 95 12:30:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25264; Sun, 30 Apr 95 12:22:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25258; Sun, 30 Apr 95 12:22:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5eRb-00038XC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 12:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: VMS version of Pine? Message-Id: <1739011C65S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <1995Apr29.144325.3613@hartwick.edu> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 19:13:18 GMT In article <1995Apr29.144325.3613@hartwick.edu> mungerj@hartwick.edu (Justin K. Munger) writes: > I was wondering if anyone knew where I could get the source code for >the VMS version of Pine? I know of at least two "VMS versions" of PINE. One is part of the PMDF package, available commercially. The one I can tell you more about is a freeware ported version done at Hebrew Univ of Jerusalem (HUJI), you can read my notes on installing this version onto our group's VMS systems - http://d1.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7Eflavell/vms-pine.html and, yes, the source code is available from directory LOCAL at vms.huji.ac.il (userid "anonymous" - _not_ "ftp"). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 14:36:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27201; Sun, 30 Apr 95 14:36:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26572; Sun, 30 Apr 95 14:32:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26566; Sun, 30 Apr 95 14:31:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5gVy-00038RC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 14:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Unix Pine Pipe Command Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 16:39:05 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can someone be kind enough to point me to information on using the Pipe command in Unix Pine? (Email OK.) Thanks. Paul From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 17:05:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00129; Sun, 30 Apr 95 17:05:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23676; Sun, 30 Apr 95 17:02:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23670; Sun, 30 Apr 95 17:02:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5io5-00038RC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 16:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: macferrin@slsiris2 (Kurtis MacFerrin) Subject: "POSSIBLE ATTACK" messages from sendmail -- 8.6.12 fixes Date: 26 Apr 1995 20:48:30 GMT Message-Id: <3nmbiu$k89@decaxp.harvard.edu> thanks! sendmail 8.6.12 did the trick! --Kurtis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 17:30:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00616; Sun, 30 Apr 95 17:30:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28223; Sun, 30 Apr 95 17:27:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28217; Sun, 30 Apr 95 17:27:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5jF1-00038RC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 17:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Silly question Date: 27 Apr 1995 13:56:13 GMT Message-Id: <3no7pt$mi8@grape.epix.net> References: <3nlglq$igb@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mark Pelletier (mark@charm.net) wrote: a few things and then ... : so now you know. i, on the other hand *still* don't know how to make : pine recogize and handle turdperfect files. help? Try converting the WP file to ASCII text (do the conversion in wp, pine can't do it), save it with a different name (E.G. take filename report, convert it, save the converted version as report.a, then try to read report.a in. Not sure if you have to convert to ascii standard or ascii stripped? WP 6+ has a built in coversion feature, 4+ & 5+ use a separate program called 'convert'. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 21:08:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04780; Sun, 30 Apr 95 21:08:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26674; Sun, 30 Apr 95 21:02:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26668; Sun, 30 Apr 95 21:02:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5mby-00038RC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 20:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cn1491@coastalnet.com (Shannon Adams) Subject: From Address Wrong in Pine Date: 1 May 1995 01:09:29 GMT Message-Id: <3o1cca$d5q@treasure.coastalnet.com> When I use mailx, my FROM: address is shannona@htc8500.com which is correct. However, when using Pine, my FROM: is htc8500!shannona - what gives? I assume this is a configuration issue. Please help. All of my mail is bouncing when someone replies to me. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 21:22:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05066; Sun, 30 Apr 95 21:22:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00622; Sun, 30 Apr 95 21:17:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00616; Sun, 30 Apr 95 21:17:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5mot-00038XC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 21:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Random signatures. Date: 27 Apr 1995 20:05:45 GMT Message-Id: <3notep$5h3@grape.epix.net> References: <3nnda3$4mc@harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au> David Mackay (dgmac1@mdw027.cc.monash.edu.au) wrote: : I realise there is another thread along similar lines, however I seem to : have missed the start of it. : Can anyone tell me if there is a way to attach a random signature to the : end of any mail I send in pine v3.07. In tin (which I use for reading : news) I can assign a directory for signatures and it will select a random : file from that directory for my signature. Can a similar thing be done in : pine, preferably using the same directory? see post wed 4-26 under thread 'Another .sig qestion!!!' by me. I will mail this and a copy of that to David. Anyone else can't find it, gimme a holler. Don't know if ya'll can use the same directory, but you can copy (not move) them into yer home directory, rename them, save them, use them as per previous article. Hope this helps. BYE. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 21:40:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05462; Sun, 30 Apr 95 21:40:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27055; Sun, 30 Apr 95 21:33:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27049; Sun, 30 Apr 95 21:33:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5n5z-00038RC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 21:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Carl Reimann Subject: $ort on To: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 16:21:33 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I think in future versions of Pine it should be possible to $ort on the basis of who or what messages are sent To:. That would be convenient. Carl From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 21:47:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05632; Sun, 30 Apr 95 21:47:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00927; Sun, 30 Apr 95 21:43:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00921; Sun, 30 Apr 95 21:43:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5nG3-00038RC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 21:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Carl Reimann Subject: read-only status Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 15:52:56 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a way to either institute much longer update intervals for open folders, or turn off updating-to-disk? I occasionally read mail in large folders, and find the periodic delays to be unnecessary and very time- consuming. Usually I do want frequent updating however. Carl From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 22:15:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06211; Sun, 30 Apr 95 22:15:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27562; Sun, 30 Apr 95 22:08:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27556; Sun, 30 Apr 95 22:08:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5nZV-000392C; Sun, 30 Apr 95 21:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Carl Reimann Subject: new-month messages Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 00:28:09 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I strongly dislike having Pine ask me if I would like to zap old sent-mail folders. I could accidentally hit 'y' and loose tons of mail. I would really like to see a way to turn that feature off as it is extremely dangerous. Carl From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 22:26:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06421; Sun, 30 Apr 95 22:26:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01307; Sun, 30 Apr 95 22:22:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01301; Sun, 30 Apr 95 22:22:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5nrP-00038TC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 22:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: taner@boom.sdsc.edu (Taner Halicioglu) Subject: Pico & control chars.. Date: 29 Apr 1995 21:01:20 GMT Message-Id: <3nu9f0$524@rosebud.sdsc.edu> Any chance that pico will allow you to insert control charactes into a text file ever? :-) My only other "complaint" about pico is the lack of "search for regex" or at least case-sensitive serach... Also, is there any projected (expected) release date for pine 3.92? And what new features can we expect in it? Thanks. -Taner ___________________________________________________________________________ D. Taner Halicioglu U. of Calif., San Diego - Revelle - CSE U. Grad taner@ucsd.edu Linux 1.2.* OS; http://sdcc8.ucsd.edu/~dhalicio taner@irc.ucsd.edu IRC Admin, irc.ucsd.edu taner@mecca.epri.com EPRI; 3412 Hillview Ave, Palo Alto, CA taner@sdsc.edu Workstation Srvc., San Diego Supercomputer Cntr. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 30 22:41:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06741; Sun, 30 Apr 95 22:41:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27939; Sun, 30 Apr 95 22:37:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27933; Sun, 30 Apr 95 22:37:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5o6B-00038RC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 22:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mrob@ctsnet.cts.com (Michael Robertson) Subject: Re: not-so-FAQ re: IMAP ?? Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 00:13:51 GMT Message-Id: References: This is going to change when Pine converts to IMAP4. The present way of What is IMAP?