From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 04:05:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24818; Mon, 1 Aug 94 04:05:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05287; Mon, 1 Aug 94 03:56:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05281; Mon, 1 Aug 94 03:56:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qUumR-00000FC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 03:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com (Jason Haar) Subject: Re: IMAP is a failure? Date: 1 Aug 1994 08:50:30 GMT Message-Id: <31id0m$hjf@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com> References: Terry Gray (gray@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : Within its design center, IMAP offers technical advantages over all the : others. In comparison to POP, I'll just mention the following: : o Access to a mail store from multiple computers. : o Ability to selectively fetch individual MIME body parts. : o Ability to access multiple remote folders, not just INBOX. : o Ability to support disconnected operation. This cannot be touted enough. This is where IMAP really kills POP. Try reading a 2-Meg MIME messages over a 9k6 SLIP link with POP - can you say SLOW??? I knew you could ;-) Try reading a 2-Meg MIME message over IMAP - where you read the 10-line text part, and decide to leave the PostScript attachment on the server until you get back to the LAN. Can you say FAST? I still think all other work on IMAP should be stopped until the coffee-interface is finished... -- Cheers, Jason +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ | Jason Haar, European SysAdmin Phone: + 44 (256) 790111 | | Motorola Cellular Subscriber Fax: + 44 (256) 790519 | | Basingstoke, Hampshire | | RG24 0GY, ENGLAND Internet: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com | +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 05:50:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26888; Mon, 1 Aug 94 05:50:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19983; Mon, 1 Aug 94 05:41:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19977; Mon, 1 Aug 94 05:41:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qUwNE-00000DC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 05:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: ^Z in PICO Message-Id: Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 11:36:27 GMT Help... is there any way to "activate" ^Z in Pico (or any other key combination that would temporarily stop pico, allowing me to resume with fg) (no problem with pine, unless... I'm editing mail with pico, in which case I need to use ^O -postpone- and then ^Z... but if I'm using pico as an editor in my shell or in tin... I couldn't find a way to do that...) btw my shell is tcsh... (and as long I don't see any .picorc probably I will need to edit my .login or my .cshrc) Thanks Shalom Pucho From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 09:00:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01614; Mon, 1 Aug 94 09:00:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09415; Mon, 1 Aug 94 08:50:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09409; Mon, 1 Aug 94 08:50:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qUzNQ-00000BC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 08:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccx009@rowan.coventry.ac.uk (Adam Bentley) Subject: elm aliases.text - > addressbook Date: 1 Aug 1994 16:07:56 +0100 Message-Id: <31j34c$q3n@rowan.coventry.ac.uk> Hi, easy question. Does anyone have a script to convert elm's aliases.text file into addressbook format. thanks. -- _ /-\dam ------------------------------------------------------------------------- FLESH: Adam Bentley (Fraggle), Systems/Networking, Coventry University. UK INET : A.Bentley@hermes.coventry.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 09:24:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03258; Mon, 1 Aug 94 09:24:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23961; Mon, 1 Aug 94 09:15:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23955; Mon, 1 Aug 94 09:15:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qUziI-00000BC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 08:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell) Subject: cmsg cancel <31j4q2$r84@news.ysu.edu> Control: cancel <31j4q2$r84@news.ysu.edu> Date: 1 Aug 1994 15:42:50 GMT Message-Id: <31j55q$rcn@news.ysu.edu> Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] -- Doug Sewell (doug@cc.ysu.edu) Left alle... what ?! http://cc.ysu.edu/1/doug The internet is like a box of chocolates -- Tom Limoncelli From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 09:37:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04278; Mon, 1 Aug 94 09:37:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24313; Mon, 1 Aug 94 09:30:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24307; Mon, 1 Aug 94 09:30:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qUziO-00000FC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 08:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell) Subject: Pine, AIX, and lock-ups Date: 1 Aug 1994 15:45:41 GMT Message-Id: <31j5b5$rdo@news.ysu.edu> I've installed V3.89 of pine on AIX 3.2.2. I'll say up front that I don't use pine, I installed it because my newer users wanted something "better" or "easier" than elm/vi... but with the problems I'm having, neither they nor I are convinced (one of them is ready to go back to the mainframe for e-mail, she's at least sympathetic to the problems). When I first installed pine, my users were having serious lock-up problems. With the assistance of Jeff Scarborough (scarboro@quit.Colorado.EDU) I put a patch on C-Client's bezerk.c to make it less vulnerable to AIX xlc problems, and Pine doesn't lock up when they go to read e-mail. Replies (or composing new outgoing e-mail) is another story. Users pick the letter they want to reply to, press 'r' to reply, the header is all filled in, and they go to the text area and it freezes. Ctl-Q and Ctl-C don't help, I usually have to kill -HUP their process. This particularly happens to users on high-speed modems through a terminal server, but occasionally to users running FTP Software telnet over ethernet as well. How can I find out what's going on ? Set a higher debug level ? Start using Pine for myself ? What do I look for ? Any suggestions (dumping AIX isn't a viable one, sorry) ? -- Doug Sewell (doug@cc.ysu.edu) Left alle... what ?! http://cc.ysu.edu/1/doug The internet is like a box of chocolates -- Tom Limoncelli From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 10:41:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07425; Mon, 1 Aug 94 10:41:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11640; Mon, 1 Aug 94 10:20:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11634; Mon, 1 Aug 94 10:20:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qV0kd-00000FC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 10:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: ^Z in PICO Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 09:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Start pico with the "-z" command line option.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 1 Aug 1994, Marcos Rubinstein wrote: > > Help... is there any way to "activate" ^Z in Pico (or any other key > combination that would temporarily stop pico, allowing me to resume with fg) > (no problem with pine, unless... I'm editing mail with pico, in which > case I need to use ^O -postpone- and then ^Z... but if I'm using pico as > an editor in my shell or in tin... I couldn't find a way to do that...) > > btw my shell is tcsh... (and as long I don't see any .picorc probably I > will need to edit my .login or my .cshrc) > > Thanks > Shalom > Pucho > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 11:28:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09676; Mon, 1 Aug 94 11:28:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26241; Mon, 1 Aug 94 10:56:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26230; Mon, 1 Aug 94 10:56:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qV1Hr-00000BC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 10:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell) Subject: Re: Pine, AIX, and lock-ups Date: 1 Aug 1994 17:23:43 GMT Message-Id: <31jb2v$b9@news.ysu.edu> References: <31j5b5$rdo@news.ysu.edu> First, I've set pine to be my default mail reader-sender. This way perhaps I'll see what problems people are having... I wrote: : When I first installed pine, my users were having serious lock-up problems. : With the assistance of Jeff Scarborough (scarboro@quit.Colorado.EDU) I : put a patch on C-Client's bezerk.c to make it less vulnerable to AIX xlc : problems, and Pine doesn't lock up when they go to read e-mail. : Replies (or composing new outgoing e-mail) is another story. Users pick the : letter they want to reply to, press 'r' to reply, the header is all filled : in, and they go to the text area and it freezes. Ctl-Q and Ctl-C don't help, : I usually have to kill -HUP their process. One observation so far, but it seems more relevant to retrieving mail from the mailbox than replying to it: Since pine is not setgid mail, it cannot create .lock in the mail spool directory, /usr/spool/mail. This lock-file is created if pine is run as root, but not otherwise. Based on my experience with elm, there's a lot of futzing around involved before I can make pine setgid mail. I've not looked at making /usr/spool/mail world-writable with the sticky-bit set - that's how /tmp and /var/tmp are set up on this machine. -- Doug Sewell (doug@cc.ysu.edu) Left alle... what ?! http://cc.ysu.edu/1/doug The internet is like a box of chocolates -- Tom Limoncelli From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 14:39:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17174; Mon, 1 Aug 94 14:39:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17014; Mon, 1 Aug 94 14:31:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17004; Mon, 1 Aug 94 14:31:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qV4fX-00000DC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 14:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Unparsable Date ???!!! Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 12:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <319si9$vs3@ctsc.hkbc.hk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <319si9$vs3@ctsc.hkbc.hk> >From the upcoming FAQ: I keep getting the message "unparsable date" when I receive messages. What does it mean and how do I fix it? Pine parses the date and time in the UNIX mbox "From " line in order to determine an "internal date" for each message. One of the components of this date and time is the offset from Universal Time. Certain older mailers write a symbolic timezone name instead of the more modern numeric offset. The problem with symbolic timezone names is that such names are ambiguous. Is BST "Bering Standard Time" or "British Summer Time"? Is KST in Korea or Kuwait? etc. The routine mail_parse_date() in pine/imap/c-client/mail.c knows how to parse some, but not all, of these symbolic timezones. We recommend that you modify this routine to add support for your own local timezone. Due to the ambiguity problem, however, it is unlikely that we will add any more symbolic timezones in the distribution sources. But, hopefully, this will only be a minor editing consideration for you. The correct solution is to undertake the transition from symbolic timezone names to numeric timezone values. UNIX software is definitely moving in this direction due to the ambiguity problem, and has been doing so for several years now. [MRC] |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 29 Jul 1994, Law Mow-man wrote: > Dear Folks, > > I have installed Pine 3.89 in our HP 735/99 running HPUX9.03. > > I found it the warning message " Unparsable date" always bounces on the > screen. It interrupt me and I can hardly key in any command. > > How can I correct it ? It is just killing me. > > Appreciate if you can email me with a solution. > > -- > Morris Law > Technician / Demonstrator Address : 224 Waterloo Road, KLN, Hong Kong > Department of Mathematics Tel : (852) 3397026 Fax : (852) 3388014 > Hong Kong Baptist College Email : morris@math.hkbc.hk > ========================================================================= > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 15:18:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18788; Mon, 1 Aug 94 15:18:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01728; Mon, 1 Aug 94 15:11:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01718; Mon, 1 Aug 94 15:11:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qV5Kw-00000IC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 14:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: swbarnes@slb.com (Simon Barnes) Subject: suggestion for imapd Date: 1 Aug 1994 15:57:00 GMT Message-Id: <31j60d$mp0@gorgon.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com> Some sites deliver mail to home directories, rather than the system default of /var/spool/mail/username or whatever. Imapd seems to cope with this well enough but ipop3d does not. I suggest a change a bit like this in the function myusername, part of env_unix.c: myHomeDir = cpystr (pw->pw_dir); #ifdef HOME_DELIVERY sprintf(tmp, MAILFILE, myHomeDir); #else sprintf(tmp, MAILFILE, myUserName); the intention being that if HOME_DELIVERY is defined, MAILFILE will be a sprintf template for mailboxes located in home directories. Simon Barnes Geco-Prakla, Gatwick From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 16:03:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20778; Mon, 1 Aug 94 16:03:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02638; Mon, 1 Aug 94 15:56:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02632; Mon, 1 Aug 94 15:56:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qV61e-00000HC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 15:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Extracting MIME from textfile Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 14:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <30o8gh$42c@news.uni-c.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <30o8gh$42c@news.uni-c.dk> If it was saved from Pine, you should be able to open the file as a folder and extract the MIME. Use "Goto" then enter the pathname of the file, if it isn't in your mail directory. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 22 Jul 1994, Lars Rikart Jensen wrote: > How do i extract a MIME from a textfile? It's an old saved mail. > Can i do it with Pine or do i need another piece of software. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 16:03:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20801; Mon, 1 Aug 94 16:03:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19409; Mon, 1 Aug 94 15:56:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19403; Mon, 1 Aug 94 15:56:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qV61c-00000BC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 15:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine Dies after i Compose Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 14:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <1994Jul22.042210.2542@weston.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994Jul22.042210.2542@weston.com> I don't see anything amiss in your .pine-debug output. The "-1" just means that there was no new mail. It is checking every 2.5 minutes like it is supposed to, so everything looks normal from that standpoint. Does this problem occur every time? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 22 Jul 1994, Wes Spears wrote: > I am running Pine on an RS/6000 AIX v3.2.4. I can sedn one message, but > can not send a second. When I hit C to compose the second time, it locks > up my terminal. I can go to another terminal and Pine is still running. > I have run Pine with a Debug level of nine, and have received the > following output after sending the message: > > q_status_message, Count 1, "Message sent." > diff: 4, displayed_time: 774834841, now: 774834841 > > > ---- MAIN_MENU_SCREEN ---- > new mail called (0 0 2) > set_titlebar - style: 0 current_message:0 current_pl: 0 total_pl: 0 > comatose(0) returns:0 ? Help 0 > 1 O OTHER CMDS 0 > 2 (null) (null) 14 > 3 L [ListFldrs 13 > 4 P PrevCmd 27 > 5 N NextCmd 27 > 6 (null) (null) 41 > 7 (null) (null) 41 > 8 R RelNotes 54 > 9 K KBLock 54 > 10 (null) (null) 69 > 11 (null) (null) 69 > row: -2, real_row: 22, column: 0 > diff: 1, displayed_time: 774834841, now: 774834842 > Select readfds:1 timeval:2,0 > Select on tty returned 0 > Read char returning: 0 ^@ > Read command returning: 0 ^@ > new mail called (0 0 1) > check_point(BadTime) > ******** new mail returning -1 ******** > diff: 1, displayed_time: 774834841, now: 774834844 > Select readfds:1 timeval:2,0 > Select on tty returned 0 > Read char returning: 0 ^@ > Read command returning: 0 ^@ > new mail called (0 0 1) > diff: -1, displayed_time: 774834841, now: 774834846 > output_message(Message sent.) > STATUS DISPE command:0, disp:1, length:0, Time:Thu Jul 21 18:54:06 1994 > Select readfds:1 timeval:150,0 > Select on tty returned 1 > Read returned 1 > Read char returning: 99 c > Read command returning: 99 c > New_mail_count zeroed > > > ---- COMPOSE SCREEN (not in pico yet) ---- > > === send called === > set_titlebar - style: 0 current_message:0 current_pl: 0 total_pl: 0 > comatose(0) returns:flags: 0 > new mail called (2ff7ecac 0 0) > check_point(GoodTime) > Mail_Ping(mail_stream): Thu Jul 21 18:56:49 1994 > > New mail checked > Ping complete: Thu Jul 21 18:56:49 1994 > > ******** new mail returning -1 ******** > new mail called (2ff7ecac 0 0) > check_point(GoodTime) > Mail_Ping(mail_stream): Thu Jul 21 18:59:19 1994 > > New mail checked > Ping complete: Thu Jul 21 18:59:19 1994 > > ******** new mail returning -1 ******** > new mail called (2ff7ecac 0 0) > check_point(GoodTime) > Mail_Ping(mail_stream): Thu Jul 21 19:01:49 1994 > > New mail checked > Ping complete: Thu Jul 21 19:01:49 1994 > > It contiues in the loop of checking new mail and returning -1. The -1 > seemed like an error to me. Does anyone have any suggestions of things to > try? > > Thanks > Wes > -- > Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) > The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) > 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 16:27:42 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21963; Mon, 1 Aug 94 16:27:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20045; Mon, 1 Aug 94 16:21:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20039; Mon, 1 Aug 94 16:21:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qV6Mm-00000DC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 16:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Encryption Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 15:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <31696m$bdr@news.utdallas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <31696m$bdr@news.utdallas.edu> Pine will support encryption in the future, but the exact implementation is still up in the air. Suggestions and comments are welcome... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 27 Jul 1994, Billy Barron wrote: > I suspect this is a can of worms post, but here it goes. :-) I am > wondering what the plans are for PINE and encryption. Is PGP, PEM, > an API or none of the above the direction that PINE is going to take? > We have a new committee on electronic forms being formed right now > and I think they are leaning towards PEM. > > By the way, if any of the ISA Corp people read this, what is the > direction of ECS Mail? > > Thanks, > > > -- > Billy Barron, Network Services Manager, Univ of Texas at Dallas > billy@utdallas.edu > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 16:39:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22469; Mon, 1 Aug 94 16:39:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03506; Mon, 1 Aug 94 16:31:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03500; Mon, 1 Aug 94 16:31:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qV6WY-00000JC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 16:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: System Aliases in Pine Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 15:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <319vkc$1emb@ctsc.hkbc.hk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <319vkc$1emb@ctsc.hkbc.hk> The system aliases are normally applied by sendmail, which is called by Pine when you send a message. Pine 3.90 will support multiple addressbooks, so you could convert your aliases file to a global addressbook if you so desire... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 29 Jul 1994, Law Mow-man wrote: > Dear Folks, > > I am a newcomer to use pine. Before, I use elm and find it useful and > comfortable except it use the awful editor vi. In our original system, > we have some system aliases that can be use by every user. However, I > don't know how to make use of the original system aliases and work with > pine. > > I just know pine has a function to incorporate a system-wide address called > bugs-nick-name into the .addressbook for every users. Can I use the same > idea to include the original system aliases there. > > > Regards, > -- > Morris Law > Technician / Demonstrator Address : 224 Waterloo Road, KLN, Hong Kong > Department of Mathematics Tel : (852) 3397026 Fax : (852) 3388014 > Hong Kong Baptist College Email : morris@math.hkbc.hk > ========================================================================= > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 18:07:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26179; Mon, 1 Aug 94 18:07:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05517; Mon, 1 Aug 94 18:01:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05511; Mon, 1 Aug 94 18:01:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qV7lB-00000BC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 17:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pok@yorku.ca (Pok Ng 'd3U&t) Subject: which imap to use? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 23:38:28 GMT Which imap should I use? IMAP 3.4 or the one comes with pine 3.89 distribution? Do I need to re-compile pine 3.89 with IMAP 3.4 c-client library, if I use IMAP 3.4? Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 19:12:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27548; Mon, 1 Aug 94 19:12:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23122; Mon, 1 Aug 94 19:06:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23116; Mon, 1 Aug 94 19:06:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qV8xp-00000DC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 18:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: re: which imap to use? Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 18:21:06 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: In general, unless you are a developer or need the very latest and greatest IMAP, you should use the IMAP that comes with Pine. The IMAP distribution is a separate release, primarily for hackers; often it was bit literally minutes after edits were made to the development sources. The Pine distribution, on the other hand, is carefully beta and field-tested prior to release. Sometimes the IMAP distribution will have bugfixes that a site will need for Pine; but usually we'll advise a site if this is the case. Pine 3.90, which should be coming out very soon, will have the latest IMAP distribution. Also, IMAP 3.4 will probably be the last version build upon IMAP2 (RFC 1176) and IMAP2bis. IMAP 4.0 will support IMAP4, an updated version of the IMAP protocol that we hope will become IETF Standards-Track later this summer. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 21:57:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00901; Mon, 1 Aug 94 21:57:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25261; Mon, 1 Aug 94 21:52:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25255; Mon, 1 Aug 94 21:52:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVBHs-00000BC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 21:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bruce Lilly Subject: Re: Unparsable Date ???!!! Message-Id: Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 12:36:32 UT References: <319si9$vs3@ctsc.hkbc.hk> In article <319si9$vs3@ctsc.hkbc.hk>, posted to newsgroup comp.mail.pine, morris@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Law Mow-man) wrote: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [ you'd better fix this; it's not a valid address ] >I have installed Pine 3.89 in our HP 735/99 running HPUX9.03. > >I found it the warning message " Unparsable date" always bounces on the >screen. It interrupt me and I can hardly key in any command. > >How can I correct it ? It is just killing me. Replace the date-parsing macro in bezerk.h with a function that correctly parses the "From " lines. The macro author made rather optimistic assumptions about the lengths of From line fields. -- Bruce Lilly, Product Manager, | Routers, Peripherals & Still Store,| uupsi!monymsys!sonyd1!bruce Sony, 3 Paragon Drive, Montvale, | lillyb@ccmail.nhq.sony.com NJ 07645-1735 | Telephone: +1 201 358 4161 | FAX: +1 201 358 4274 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 22:40:23 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01888; Mon, 1 Aug 94 22:40:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25713; Mon, 1 Aug 94 22:26:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from nuxi.ucc.nau.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25707; Mon, 1 Aug 94 22:26:23 -0700 Received: (from jdc@localhost) by nuxi.ucc.nau.edu (8.6.9/2.2-nau) id WAA22212; Mon, 1 Aug 1994 22:24:21 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 22:24:20 -0700 (MST) From: John Campbell Subject: Ispell in pico To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello. I'm a recent pine convert and I'm setting pine up for students to use here at our campus on a unix machine. To my surprise, I find that pine and pico were already running on our VMS machine as part of the PMDF suite of mail programs. This was an added bonus. When running pine on VMS, I found the PMDF people had incorporated DECspell into pico. This is a good idea as DECspell is a very good spell checker. I'd like to incorporate ispell into the unix version--it's not quite as good, but it does prompt for user input. I looked at the spell.c code and realize it is possible, but I'll have to learn how to trash the current edit buffer and replace it with the temp file. Not impossible, but I was wondering if someone had done it already. (I grabbed the only VMS source code I could find, but it doesn't give a hint on doing this.) By the way, my motivation is my dyslexic son who really needs a prompting speller. In his case, it's not a matter of simple typos--if he misspelled a word once he'll likely have no idea how to spell it the second time either. Hence something like DECspell or ispell, which prompts and corrects the whole document, is critical. John Campbell John.Campbell@nau.edu jdc@sunset.cse.nau.edu JDC@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 23:23:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02701; Mon, 1 Aug 94 23:23:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09882; Mon, 1 Aug 94 23:17:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09876; Mon, 1 Aug 94 23:17:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVCtF-00000HC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 22:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Liu@u.washington.edu (Herng Liu) Subject: IMAP.mailstrom.pine questions Date: Mon, 01 Aug 1994 22:58:41 +0100 Message-Id: Hi, Because I vary locations to check my e-mail quite frequently, I usually use pine to read my e-mail through IMAP protocol. It is a pretty neat software. One of the nice features is it can automatically save the outgoing mails in the IMAP mail server. I am thinking about using mailstrom to read my e-mail if I use a Mac to access my mail server. Unfortunately, I have not been able to find any feature in the mailstrom which allows me to save the outgoing mails in my IMAP mail server. Is it possible to do this? I know it can be saved as a local file, but I prefer to save the outgoing mails generated by mailstrom along with the previous outgoing mails in the mail server. It will be more organized this way. If this feature is not available in mailstrom, is there any IMAP-based Mac mailreader software available (shareware or commercial) for doing this? Thanks in advance. -- Herng Liu Department of Chemical Engineering, BF-10 University of Washington Seattle, WA 98195 Internet:liu@u.washington.edu (206) 685-3036 (voice) (206) 543-3778 (fax) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 00:45:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04334; Tue, 2 Aug 94 00:45:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27450; Tue, 2 Aug 94 00:38:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27444; Tue, 2 Aug 94 00:38:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVE8l-00000XC; Tue, 2 Aug 94 00:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cimage@garnet.msen.com (Cimage) Subject: Re: Blind CC's Date: 2 Aug 1994 07:19:15 GMT Message-Id: <31ks1j$21j$1@heifetz.msen.com> References: <9407271747.AA14410@ultrix> Michael C. Newell (mnewell@lupine.nsi.nasa.gov) wrote: : As I recall you put the cursor in the header area and press CONTROl-R : [Rich Headers] and the "Bcc" field magically appears. Some systems don't : acknowlege them though, so in some cases the recipients may actually see : the "Bcc" list. Let me strongly caution you against use of BCC if you really don't want people to see the list! I too have discovered (with some embarrassment - fortunately not fatal) that MANY mail systems treat BCC the same as CC. Caveat Emptor! Simcha-Yitzchak Lerner simcha@cimage.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 02:30:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06911; Tue, 2 Aug 94 02:30:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12332; Tue, 2 Aug 94 02:23:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12326; Tue, 2 Aug 94 02:23:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVFWw-00000cC; Tue, 2 Aug 94 01:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: holemans@reks.uia.ac.be (Wim.Holemans) Subject: use of ISO-LATIN-1, 8bit, ... Message-Id: <1994Aug2.083809.8665@reks.uia.ac.be> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 08:38:09 GMT I've to make a study about the use of international character sets in mail, www, ... Some of the topics are : - how do you create/read a message on a unix host that has another character set ? - what telnet programs (dos/windows) allow to use 8bit character sets and how do they map the characters to their character sets ? - what do www-client programs do (or don't do) with the display of characters above ASCII-128 on a dumb terminal, an x-term, ... ? I'm looking for all possible info on this subject. I know where to find the RFC's, so those references i don't need any more. If anyone has implemented the use of ISO-LATIN-1 or another character set on his site in email and other applications, i would be very interested in hearing how you did this, with which software, ... Any info is welcome, thanks Greetings, -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Wim Holemans phone + 32 3 820 22 03 Network/System manager fax + 32 3 820 22 44 U.I.A. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 03:04:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07520; Tue, 2 Aug 94 03:04:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12690; Tue, 2 Aug 94 02:57:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12684; Tue, 2 Aug 94 02:57:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVG42-00000IC; Tue, 2 Aug 94 02:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calimero@lcco.u-strasbg.fr (Guy BRAND) Subject: use of ISO-LATIN-1, 8bit, ... Date: 2 Aug 1994 10:23:02 GMT Message-Id: <31l6q6$b62@thot.u-strasbg.fr> -- > how do you create/read a message on a unix host that has another > character set ? You can remap the keyboard if you have a qwerty and want to use ISO Latin 1 characters. I had to do this on my Silicon Graphics to be able to write in french, with accents etc. My mailer is Pine 3.89, executed in a xterm window which is remapped from within the .Xdefaults file. When Pine detects non US-ASCII fonts in the message you are writing, it changes the Content-Type: header to the appropriate one (Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" in my case). > what telnet programs (dos/windows) allow to use 8bit character sets > and how do they map the characters to their character sets ? I'm using winsock qvtnet, or wintel for windows without remapping the keyboard, but it can be done exactly like you do it for X11/Unix based programs. There is a very good document written by a canadian, François Yergeau (yergeau@phy.ulaval.ca) about ISO Latin 1 Charset usage, and keyboard mapping, but it's in french. Tell me if you're interested... IMHO ! Cheer up... GB ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Guy BRAND guybrand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr Centre de Recherche Chimie ULP Strasbourg (FRANCE) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 06:51:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12426; Tue, 2 Aug 94 06:51:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15594; Tue, 2 Aug 94 06:39:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [129.55.12.3] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15588; Tue, 2 Aug 94 06:39:03 -0700 Received: by ll.mit.edu (4.1/LL-1.3) id AA25865; Tue, 2 Aug 94 09:31:43 EDT Return-Path: Date: Tue, 2 Aug 94 09:31:43 -0400 From: James Dryfoos Reply-To: James Dryfoos Subject: Another feature request. To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <9408020931.AA20815@LL.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I quite often am involved in short to medium term projects made up of a group of people. Most often I will receive email from the person in charge and this message will be cc'ed to all the others involved. I would like to be able to do a similar function as the "TakeAddr" function, but instead of just adding the sender to the alias directory, I would like to create a group containing all the addresses in the from:, to: and cc: fields. I would also like to do this without having to add each individual as an individual alias -- I.e. only the group is created and the group holds all the addressing information. This is different from the way groups are maintained now where each group member must be in the alias directory. What you think? Thanks for all the great work! -- Jim ========================================================================== James D. Dryfoos | dryfoos@ll.mit.edu MIT Lincoln Laboratory, Group 28 | 244 Wood Street, MailStop: B-120 | (617) 981-2008 - office Lexington, MA 02173, Earth | (617) 981-0782 - fax ========================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 07:09:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12690; Tue, 2 Aug 94 07:09:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15823; Tue, 2 Aug 94 06:58:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15817; Tue, 2 Aug 94 06:58:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVK6S-00000DC; Tue, 2 Aug 94 06:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: spanish language spelling??? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 13:26:16 GMT Is there any spanish language speller that I can use with Pico? Where can I get It? Thanks Shalom Pucho (aka Marcos) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 08:29:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14673; Tue, 2 Aug 94 08:29:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03282; Tue, 2 Aug 94 08:02:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03259; Tue, 2 Aug 94 08:01:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVKwN-000006C; Tue, 2 Aug 94 07:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gerland@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (Jim Gerland - Network Consultant) Subject: Alternate 'drawers' in VMS Pine. How? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 14:23:41 GMT Can anyone tell me whether VMS Pine can access alternate mail files (drawers in VMS terms)? I tried using the following syntax in my pine.pinerc file: folder-collections=local [], freenet #DISK$ACSDISK3:FREENET.MAI#[] but when I try to open the freenet folder I get: [ ** Empty List ** Select Here to Try Re-Expanding ] Any ideas? Thanks, Jim... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 09:07:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16644; Tue, 2 Aug 94 09:07:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18051; Tue, 2 Aug 94 08:54:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18045; Tue, 2 Aug 94 08:54:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVLsL-000006C; Tue, 2 Aug 94 08:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: charles@umbc.edu (Charles Myers) Subject: Re: IMAP.mailstrom.pine questions Date: 2 Aug 1994 11:31:10 -0400 Message-Id: <31loruINN9bk@umbc7.umbc.edu> References: In article , Herng Liu wrote: >Hi, >Because I vary locations to check my e-mail quite frequently, I usually >use pine to read my e-mail through IMAP protocol. It is a pretty neat >software. One of the nice features is it can automatically save the >outgoing mails in the IMAP mail server. I am thinking about using Is there or will there be a pine for macintosh? The other versions work really well, you're right, so why not a mac version?!? Inquring minds want to know. _______________________________________________________________________________ Charles Myers Internet:charles@umbc.edu DP Telecomm Tech II yellnet:410-455-3806 Academic Computing Services fax:410-455-1065 University of Maryland Myers-Briggs: INFP Baltimore County Campus From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 10:05:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18766; Tue, 2 Aug 94 10:05:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05835; Tue, 2 Aug 94 09:54:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05829; Tue, 2 Aug 94 09:54:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVMnH-00000HC; Tue, 2 Aug 94 09:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pjh@pjh.jvnc.net (Pete Holsberg) Subject: How Can I Set Up PINE To Use .... ???? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 16:08:04 GMT I'd like to set up Pine to use the UnixWare mailer rather than sendmail. Could someone tell me what changes in what files are needed? Thanks, Pete ------------------------------------------------------------------ Pete Holsberg The House On *This* Side Of U.S. 1 44 Lopatcong Drive pjh@mccc.edu Ewing, NJ 08638 pjh@pjh.jvnc.net FAX: 609-586-2318 ------------------------------------------------------------------ **** Trenton Computer Festival **** April 22-23, 1995 **** ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 13:15:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28096; Tue, 2 Aug 94 13:15:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10509; Tue, 2 Aug 94 13:07:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10489; Tue, 2 Aug 94 13:07:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVPeG-000006C; Tue, 2 Aug 94 12:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aelman@cs.stanford.edu (Adam Elman) Subject: Re: IMAP.mailstrom.pine questions Date: Tue, 02 Aug 1994 12:24:37 +0000 Message-Id: References: <31loruINN9bk@umbc7.umbc.edu> In article <31loruINN9bk@umbc7.umbc.edu>, charles@umbc.edu (Charles Myers) wrote: > In article , > Herng Liu wrote: > >Hi, > >Because I vary locations to check my e-mail quite frequently, I usually > >use pine to read my e-mail through IMAP protocol. It is a pretty neat > >software. One of the nice features is it can automatically save the > >outgoing mails in the IMAP mail server. I am thinking about using > > Is there or will there be a pine for macintosh? The other versions work > really well, you're right, so why not a mac version?!? Inquring minds > want to know. > I don't think so. The problem is that pine is inherently a command-line, text-only terminal program, and wouldn't really work directly ported to the Mac. Of course, there is a Mac IMAP client, as the original poster mentioned: Mailstrom. Mailstrom is available from sumex-aim.stanford.edu; NOT in the Info-Mac archives, but in /imap/clients. Of course, Sumex is nearly impossible to get into these days...:( Mailstrom is similar to Pine in some ways, but not in all. Adam From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 14:50:34 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02037; Tue, 2 Aug 94 14:50:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12561; Tue, 2 Aug 94 14:43:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ULTRIX.UOR.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12555; Tue, 2 Aug 94 14:43:22 -0700 Received: by ultrix.uor.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA07000; Tue, 2 Aug 94 14:45:15 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 14:45:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Sharon X Deng Subject: To: Pine Info Group Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 15:05:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02701; Tue, 2 Aug 94 15:05:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12785; Tue, 2 Aug 94 14:56:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12773; Tue, 2 Aug 94 14:56:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVRNa-000006C; Tue, 2 Aug 94 14:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmwobus@mailbox.syr.edu (John M. Wobus) Subject: Re: IMAP is a failure? Date: 2 Aug 1994 21:03:10 GMT Message-Id: <31mcaf$kna@newstand.syr.edu> References: <316dbl$rm@radar.li.icl.se> <3197je$ftn@netnews.upenn.edu> <31alrs$kad@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com> In article <31alrs$kad@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com>, jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com (Jason Haar) writes: >Michael S. Robinson (mrobinsn@finance.wharton.upenn.edu) wrote: > >: I think the reason you're seeing this is a change in the point of reference. >: You are correct that every guide to the internet mentions PINE or ELM for >: mail. However, there is a huge trend towards having central servers >: with many clients around thme (gee, a LAN maybe?). Anyways, POP has one >: great advantage for a client/server set-up: It goes out, does what it needs >: to do, then closes up shop. This cuts down greatly on any unnecessary network >: traffic. It's also less overhead for the client system. Every little bit helps. > >?? Are you saying that IMAP can't do that? > >As far as I remember - IMAP could be used as a complete POP replacement - >you could GET all messages onto your local system and then DELETE them >off the server - Ta Da!! But IMAP doesn't do that. Who uses it as a simple POP replacement? Is anyone defining a POP-equivalent subnet? IMAP Lite? If you want to replace your POP with functionally equivalent IMAP, you get to run the more complex server and leave your server open to the kinds of server-resource-draining behavior that IMAP was designed for. IMAP is great. But if you are aiming to limit your server resources by offering only POP-style usage, then IMAP server and client software is not ready for prime time. John Wobus Syracuse University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 15:41:05 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04037; Tue, 2 Aug 94 15:41:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13574; Tue, 2 Aug 94 15:33:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13568; Tue, 2 Aug 94 15:33:10 -0700 Received: from elvis.med.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa19595; 2 Aug 94 18:33 EDT Received: by elvis.med.Virginia.EDU (5.65c/1.34) id AA23833; Tue, 2 Aug 1994 18:33:06 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 18:33:06 -0400 From: "Steven D. Majewski" Message-Id: <199408022233.AA23833@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) To: "John M. Wobus" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP is a failure? On Aug 2, 21:03, "John M. Wobus" wrote: > > But IMAP doesn't do that. Who uses it as a simple POP replacement? Is > anyone defining a POP-equivalent subnet? IMAP Lite? If you want to replace > your POP with functionally equivalent IMAP, you get to run the more complex > server and leave your server open to the kinds of server-resource-draining > behavior that IMAP was designed for. > > IMAP is great. But if you are aiming to limit your server resources > by offering only POP-style usage, then IMAP server and client software is > not ready for prime time. > I was about to cast by vote whole heartedly for IMAP over POP, but John Wobus' comments above, remind me to add the caveat that IMAP is better than POP as long as it makes sense for you to shift resource usage onto the server, with the advantage of reducing load on the client and on the network bandwidth. These conditions fit for people like Bill Yeager who are interested in mobile & disconnected use, and people who get hundreds of messages a day and don't want to download them all to find the one they need, but there may be a number of cases where server load is the more important limiting factor. In that case, then yes - POP makes more sense. - Steve Majewski (804-982-0831) - UVA Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 19:54:58 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12242; Tue, 2 Aug 94 19:54:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18542; Tue, 2 Aug 94 19:48:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18536; Tue, 2 Aug 94 19:48:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVW2B-000006C; Tue, 2 Aug 94 19:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: IMAP is a failure? Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 16:45:40 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <31mcaf$kna@newstand.syr.edu> John Wobus writes: > leave your server open to the kinds of server-resource-draining > behavior that IMAP was designed for. Could you elaborate on what sort of ``server-resource-draining behavior'' you are referring to? Have you made any sort of statistical analysis about various distributed email strategies and their relative costs? I can understand the claim that keeping mail on the server consumes disk space, but it would be much more expensive for me to buy adequate disk space on every client that I use for mail than it would be to buy adequate disk space on a single server. It is interesting to compare IMAP vs NFS when you talk about resource consumption. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 20:07:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12459; Tue, 2 Aug 94 20:07:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18735; Tue, 2 Aug 94 20:02:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18727; Tue, 2 Aug 94 20:02:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVWGq-00000DC; Tue, 2 Aug 94 19:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jazz@connected.com (Reid Cameron Conti) Subject: Re: status of pine 3.90 Date: 2 Aug 1994 18:37:10 -0700 Message-Id: <31msc6$rh@gibeah.connected.com> References: <1994Jul28.063622.29384@reks.uia.ac.be> > Can anyone comment on the status of pine 3.90 ? I thought it was > announced for the spring. Also any news about a windows version ? Oh, it'll be out in a few weeks.. -- |------------------------------------------------------------------------| | jazz@gibeah.connected.com "640K outta be enough for anybody"-Bill Gates| | | \________________________________________________________________________/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 22:59:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15566; Tue, 2 Aug 94 22:59:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05072; Tue, 2 Aug 94 22:50:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05066; Tue, 2 Aug 94 22:50:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVYxr-00000eC; Tue, 2 Aug 94 22:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tim@systel.com (Timothy Kulig) Subject: HP "sent-mail is locked" ERROR Date: 3 Aug 1994 04:44:44 GMT Message-Id: <31n7cf$igo@condor.ic.net> After I do a Control-X to send a letter, it freezes like that on my screen, I'm not sure what I compiled wrong, but apparently I did. It does this countdown thing, sayes that it has 280 seconds before it unlocks it. Every 5 seconds or so, it beeps. Here the situation I'm trying to setup: On an HP9000/832 I have just UUCP mail feed to my home computer which has a slip connection off the internet. I have my HP, uucico into my home computer on an hourly basis. I just started working there 3 months ago. Mail has been working fine as far as UUCP, but when I first started using pine on the HP, I noticed it said it could not access sendmail in : /usr/lib/sendmail. I noticed the permissions set 000. So it could not be accessed. (Actually when it's like that everything works fine.) So now I turn on sendmail with 777 permissions and use pine, and I get that stupid 'Folder "sent-mail" is locked, Blah Blah.' I don't know what to do. I love Pine and want to use it there. Can someone help me? Please! tim@systel.com -- ============================================================================= __&__ | / \ | Timothy Alan Kulig tim@systel.com or tkulig@ic.net | | | | (o)(o) | S Y S T E L Unix Windows Dos Vax - You name it! C .---_) | | |.___| | If you need anything in the Unix World, Feel Free to call! | \__/ | /_____\ | (800) 906-2167 (810) 960-9783 Data: (810) 960-7679 /_____/ \ | / \ | Homer Simpson is my Idle. MMMMM Fuzzy Grape!! ============================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 23:30:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16072; Tue, 2 Aug 94 23:30:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05527; Tue, 2 Aug 94 23:21:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05521; Tue, 2 Aug 94 23:21:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVZOo-000006C; Tue, 2 Aug 94 23:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Another feature request. Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 22:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <9408020931.AA20815@LL.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9408020931.AA20815@LL.MIT.EDU> This will be in Pine 3.90... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 2 Aug 1994, James Dryfoos wrote: > I quite often am involved in short to medium term projects made up of a group > of people. Most often I will receive email from the person in charge and > this message will be cc'ed to all the others involved. I would like to be > able to do a similar function as the "TakeAddr" function, but instead of > just adding the sender to the alias directory, I would like to create a group > containing all the addresses in the from:, to: and cc: fields. I would also > like to do this without having to add each individual as an individual > alias -- I.e. only the group is created and the group holds all the > addressing information. This is different from the way groups are > maintained now where each group member must be in the alias > directory. What you think? > > Thanks for all the great work! > > -- Jim > > ========================================================================== > James D. Dryfoos | dryfoos@ll.mit.edu > MIT Lincoln Laboratory, Group 28 | > 244 Wood Street, MailStop: B-120 | (617) 981-2008 - office > Lexington, MA 02173, Earth | (617) 981-0782 - fax > ========================================================================== > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 23:41:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16376; Tue, 2 Aug 94 23:41:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05702; Tue, 2 Aug 94 23:35:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05696; Tue, 2 Aug 94 23:35:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVZdg-00000FC; Tue, 2 Aug 94 23:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: How Can I Set Up PINE To Use .... ???? Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 22:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine 3.90 will have the call to sendmail broken out into a separate OS-dependent file, which would make is a bit more straight-forward to hack in. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 2 Aug 1994, Pete Holsberg wrote: > I'd like to set up Pine to use the UnixWare mailer rather than sendmail. Could > someone tell me what changes in what files are needed? > > Thanks, > Pete > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Pete Holsberg The House On *This* Side Of U.S. 1 > 44 Lopatcong Drive pjh@mccc.edu > Ewing, NJ 08638 pjh@pjh.jvnc.net > FAX: 609-586-2318 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > **** Trenton Computer Festival **** April 22-23, 1995 **** > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 3 01:21:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18884; Wed, 3 Aug 94 01:21:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07106; Wed, 3 Aug 94 01:13:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07100; Wed, 3 Aug 94 01:13:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVb8X-000006C; Wed, 3 Aug 94 00:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calimero@lcco.u-strasbg.fr (Guy BRAND) Subject: PC Pine... Mac Pine ? Date: 3 Aug 1994 08:51:50 GMT Message-Id: <31nlr6$7s6@thot.u-strasbg.fr> -- Back ! Is there any project of a port of Pine on the Macintosh ? Thanks GB ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Guy BRAND guybrand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr Centre de Recherche Chimie ULP Strasbourg (FRANCE) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 3 01:21:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18921; Wed, 3 Aug 94 01:21:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07098; Wed, 3 Aug 94 01:13:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07092; Wed, 3 Aug 94 01:13:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVb6e-00000DC; Wed, 3 Aug 94 00:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calimero@lcco.u-strasbg.fr (Guy BRAND) Subject: Re: status of pine 3.90 Date: 3 Aug 1994 08:49:59 GMT Message-Id: <31nlnn$7s6@thot.u-strasbg.fr> -- Hi all, Don't you think Pine 3.89 is already a very good and cool mailer ? I really prefer to wait for release 3.90 rather than having to pay for an equivalent mailer with weekly releases !!! Great job has already been done within Pine I'm convinced the next release will be very satisfying too... even if coming a little bit late ! Has someone tried (beta) X11 version of Pine called Spruce ? Cheers GB ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Guy BRAND guybrand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr Centre de Recherche Chimie ULP Strasbourg (FRANCE) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 3 04:25:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23527; Wed, 3 Aug 94 04:25:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09738; Wed, 3 Aug 94 04:13:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from nuxi.ucc.nau.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09732; Wed, 3 Aug 94 04:13:56 -0700 Received: (from jdc@localhost) by nuxi.ucc.nau.edu (8.6.9/2.2-nau) id EAA22556; Wed, 3 Aug 1994 04:11:41 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 04:11:40 -0700 (MST) From: John Campbell Subject: Possible feature-list bug? To: Pine Info Cc: John Campbell Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm very new to pine and to this list so maybe this has been discussed already... When I try to put multiple lines on the feature-list= line of pine.conf only the first item is shown with pine -conf. In other words: feature-list=enable-tab-completion, enable-jump-shortcut, signature-at-bottom, delete-skips-deleted, enable-alternate-editor-cmd gives me the following when I say pine -conf : feature-list=enable-tab-completion If I put all the features on one line then pine -conf reports them all, but in the multi-line format, which I can't use as a starting point for a new .pinerc. Has this been discussed before? I'm running the following version of pine under Solaris 2.3: last-version-used=3.89 Also, I sent a question in as my first posting to this list asking if anyone has modified pico's spell.c to allow for the use of ispell. This would, I believe, entail running ispell on the temp file and then replacing the temp file rather than going into the word prompting command loop currently in pico's spell.c code. I believe the PMDF pine version on VMS does this (only using DECspell and not ispell). It shouldn't be very hard for someone who knows how to replace a pico edit buffer--but I was hoping for advice before I attempted it myself. [This would probably answer the question posted recently about using a spanish dictionary as ispell has foreign language support, by the way.] John Campbell John.Campbell@nau.edu jdc@sunset.cse.nau.edu JDC@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 3 08:18:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00415; Wed, 3 Aug 94 08:18:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28873; Wed, 3 Aug 94 08:10:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [198.209.19.1] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28861; Wed, 3 Aug 94 08:10:42 -0700 Received: by sbulib.sbuniv.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA11267; Wed, 3 Aug 1994 10:11:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 10:11:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Rick Nebel Subject: Re: status of pine 3.90 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <31nlnn$7s6@thot.u-strasbg.fr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 3 Aug 1994, Guy BRAND wrote: > Don't you think Pine 3.89 is already a very good and cool mailer ? I really > prefer to wait for release 3.90 rather than having to pay for an equivalent > mailer with weekly releases !!! Great job has already been done within Pine > I'm convinced the next release will be very satisfying too... even if coming > a little bit late ! I for one agree. Pine 3.89 doesn't do everything we would like but it does a lot of good things relative to other programs out there. For the price and the fact that the majority of our end-users don't have a great need for all of the highly technical bells and whistles, I have never been one to complain. IMHO, I would rather wait a "few more weeks" for a good, solid release than get an early, buggy one with frequent patches and updates. We put up with that too much in the MS-DOS, Windows, Mac environment now days. Just my $.02 worth. Rick Nebel. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 3 12:43:09 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12391; Wed, 3 Aug 94 12:43:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04742; Wed, 3 Aug 94 12:31:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04736; Wed, 3 Aug 94 12:31:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVlh7-00000BC; Wed, 3 Aug 94 12:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: worth@mic.ucla.edu (Don D. Worth) Subject: Re: IMAP is a failure? Date: Wed, 03 Aug 1994 11:11:48 -0700 Message-Id: References: > I can understand the claim that keeping mail on the server consumes disk > space, but it would be much more expensive for me to buy adequate disk space > on every client that I use for mail than it would be to buy adequate disk > space on a single server. I can understand the issue about longer session times over dial-up connections for IMAP, although I would contend that many users might keep their dial-up session active throughout the time they are using their email client, especially if they have their POP client (eg. Eudora) configured to do immediate sends and they are replying to messages, one by one, and if they are making a local call. However, I don't really buy the issue of POP somehow relieving disk space on the server. In either protocol, you must allocate some disk quota to each user and implement some sort of space retrieval (or mail bouncing) system so you can deal with accumulations of unread email. I would contend, based on the pattern of use among students at our university, that the bulk of the storage is consumed by unread mail, not mail that has already been read. What I'm told is that students on average check email less frequently than do staff, which allows a greater accumulation of unread mail. We've heard horror stories for departmental email systems where a student logs on, subscribes to eleventy seven LISTSERV lists, and then doesn't logon again for a month. If you set the quota so that it is not practical for students to store their logs of email history on the server, but only to accomodate a reasonable accumulation of inbox messages, I suspect there won't be a whole lot of difference between IMAP and POP as far as server disk space goes. For me, the real reason to go IMAP is to resolve the problems of sharing a single machine among many (e.g. public access workstation) and of sharing a single inbox among many workstations (e.g. a workstation at home and a workstation at work). Also, the advantages of shared inboxes, selective downloads of MIME components, etc. Don Worth Manager, UCLA Microcomputer Support Office From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 3 16:56:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23165; Wed, 3 Aug 94 16:56:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26331; Wed, 3 Aug 94 16:47:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26325; Wed, 3 Aug 94 16:47:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVpek-00000FC; Wed, 3 Aug 94 16:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hsasaki@netcom.com (Harold Sasaki) Subject: Trouble with signature ? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 17:50:21 GMT I am having trouble having Pine putting my .signature at the end of a message I am trying to forward. I have "feature-list= signature-at-bottom" in my .pinerc file, but that doesn't do it. Is there something I'm forgetting to do? Also I am using "vacation" to send an automatic reply to any mail I receive. Is there a way to include my .signature in the .vacation.msg file without actually typing it in? Maybe a $ variable or something? TIA for any info. -- /-----------------------+----------------------------------------\ | Harold Sasaki | Go Oakland A's in 1994 | | hsasaki@netcom.com | Go Golden State Warriors in 1994-95 | | San Jose State Univ. | "I'm a loser baby, so why don't you | | | kill me ..." -- Beck | \-----------------------+----------------------------------------/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 3 21:20:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29275; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:20:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00580; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:04:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00574; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:04:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVtZJ-00000BC; Wed, 3 Aug 94 20:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schake@tesuque.cs.sandia.gov (Stefan Chakerian) Subject: Re: Filtering w/ PINE Date: 3 Aug 1994 17:30:00 -0600 Message-Id: <31p99o$hcr@tesuque.cs.sandia.gov> References: David L Miller wrote: >No, Pine does not do delivery filtering. You need an external filter >program to accomplish that. Someone at netcom should be able to tell you >what is available there and how to use it... >> I'm using Pine to read my E-mail and would like to filter certain >> incoming messages to a particular folder other than IN-COMING. Check for the existence of "filter" or "procmail" Filter is easy to use, but procmail is pretty powerful. stef -- Stefan Chakerian Good, fast, cheap. Pick two. schake@tesuque.cs.sandia.gov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 3 21:24:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29384; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:24:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00742; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:12:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00736; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:12:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVtq3-00000HC; Wed, 3 Aug 94 20:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: clp@cw-u01.umd.umich.edu (Ritesh Patel) Subject: Automatic filing of incomming mmail??? Date: 4 Aug 1994 03:28:43 GMT Message-Id: <31pn9b$r86@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> How do I file my incomming mail automatically into folders? For example I receive the newsletter Edupage every other week. I would like it to be automatically filed in a folder names edupage. -- --------------------------- Ritesh Patel rhpatel@aol.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 3 21:24:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29427; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:24:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14508; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:02:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14502; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:02:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVtQ5-000006C; Wed, 3 Aug 94 20:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbollow@netcom.com (jbollow@netcom.com) Subject: How do I Reply with to an e-mail with a form letter? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 02:15:52 GMT Greetings. I'm trying to figure out how to reply to an e-mail with a form letter. For example, I placed a post in some newsgroups that led to a large response, but I want to be able to reply to everyone with the same letter. I've been writing down the respondee's name, and forwarding the form letter to them, but that seems like a waste of time, and the inbox doesn't mark the respondee's note with and "A" to note that it's been answered. Is there any way to reply with a form letter? PLEASE RESPOND VIA E-MAIL... THANKS! ---jeff--- -- jbollow@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 3 21:42:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29775; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:42:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14862; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:27:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14856; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:27:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVu0z-00000DC; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com (Jason Haar) Subject: Re: IMAP is a failure? Date: 3 Aug 1994 13:12:48 GMT Message-Id: <31o54g$fji@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com> References: <316dbl$rm@radar.li.icl.se> <3197je$ftn@netnews.upenn.edu> <31alrs$kad@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com> <31mcaf$kna@newstand.syr.edu> John M. Wobus (jmwobus@mailbox.syr.edu) wrote: : But IMAP doesn't do that. Who uses it as a simple POP replacement? Is : anyone defining a POP-equivalent subnet? IMAP Lite? If you want to replace Who would want to? All I'm saying is that IMAP contains the functionality of POP - obviously it isn't POP. But a MUA could be written that uses IMAP in _exactly_ the same way that POP is used. No-one has done that because IMAP also allows you to do other things too. : your POP with functionally equivalent IMAP, you get to run the more complex : server and leave your server open to the kinds of server-resource-draining : behavior that IMAP was designed for. I'm a bit concerned about your "server-resource-draining" comment - it may scare off potential users ;-) IMAP _can_ use more resources than POP because it offers more features - but I wouldn't want people to think it's some kind of memory-hog... -- Cheers, Jason +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ | Jason Haar, European SysAdmin Phone: + 44 (256) 790111 | | Motorola Cellular Subscriber Fax: + 44 (256) 790519 | | Basingstoke, Hampshire | | RG24 0GY, ENGLAND Internet: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com | +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 3 22:38:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00993; Wed, 3 Aug 94 22:38:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01822; Wed, 3 Aug 94 22:28:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ultrix.ramapo.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01816; Wed, 3 Aug 94 22:28:38 -0700 Received: by ultrix (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA18635; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 01:17:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 01:17:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Mann Subject: Re: Trouble with signature ? To: Harold Sasaki Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings, On Wed, 3 Aug 1994, Harold Sasaki wrote: > I am having trouble having Pine putting my .signature at the end of a > message I am trying to forward. I have "feature-list= > signature-at-bottom" in my .pinerc file, but that doesn't do it. Is > there something I'm forgetting to do? Try setting signature-file= in your .pinerc. That does the trick for me. > > Also I am using "vacation" to send an automatic reply to any mail I > receive. Is there a way to include my .signature in the .vacation.msg > file without actually typing it in? Maybe a $ variable or something? > TIA for any info. > -- For your .vacation.msg, it is simply text. Just enter into any editor and insert the file where you want it placed. For example, if you use pico, open it with your .signature, place the cursor where you want the signature, and do CTRL-R. Type in the filename. No typing of file and signature is included. Hope this helps. Steve "If you choose not to decide, you'll still have made a choice..." -RUSH ================================================================== / Steve M Insignificant message goes here \ | CCIS: 529-7500 x7922 \|||/ | | Home: 722-1632 0 * | | Beeper: 1-800-502-2775 or 201-909-1575 oo0 ^ 0oo | | Email: smann@ultrix.ramapo.edu ~~~~~~~~~ | \ This line left blank for no reason / ================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 00:52:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03321; Thu, 4 Aug 94 00:52:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17451; Thu, 4 Aug 94 00:42:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from internal.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17445; Thu, 4 Aug 94 00:42:52 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA23755; Thu, 4 Aug 94 15:43:09 +0800 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 15:43:08 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Automatic filing of incomming mmail??? To: Ritesh Patel Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <31pn9b$r86@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 4 Aug 1994, Ritesh Patel wrote: > How do I file my incomming mail automatically into folders? > > For example I receive the newsletter Edupage every other week. I would like it > to be automatically filed in a folder names edupage. Simple.... pick up a "filter" program such as procmail or deliver or filter (from the elm distribution). The most comprehesive (IMHO) is procmail.....from the FAQ: A recent version can be picked up at various comp.sources.misc archives. The latest version can be obtained directly from the ftp-archive at: ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (137.226.112.172) Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 00:52:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03352; Thu, 4 Aug 94 00:52:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03631; Thu, 4 Aug 94 00:39:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03625; Thu, 4 Aug 94 00:39:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVwmK-00000MC; Wed, 3 Aug 94 23:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jph@panix.com (James P. Huggins) Subject: Re: How do I Reply with to an e-mail with a form letter? Date: 4 Aug 1994 02:59:42 -0400 Message-Id: <31q3ku$86a@panix.com> References: In jbollow@netcom.com (jbollow@netcom.com) writes: >Greetings. >I'm trying to figure out how to reply to an e-mail with a form letter. >For example, I placed a post in some newsgroups that led to a large >response, but I want to be able to reply to everyone with the same letter. >I've been writing down the respondee's name, and forwarding the form >letter to them, but that seems like a waste of time, and the inbox >doesn't mark the respondee's note with and "A" to note that it's been >answered. >Is there any way to reply with a form letter? >PLEASE RESPOND VIA E-MAIL... THANKS! I am curious what you posted that got such a response, but non the less, why don't you just respond, without including the previous message, and import the form letter, (Read File, ^R in pine). There may be more automatic ways of doing this, but this will work. Jim jph@panix.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 02:02:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05310; Thu, 4 Aug 94 02:02:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04862; Thu, 4 Aug 94 01:53:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04850; Thu, 4 Aug 94 01:53:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVyDy-00000BC; Thu, 4 Aug 94 01:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calimero@lcco.u-strasbg.fr (Guy BRAND) Subject: Looking for Spruce... Date: 4 Aug 1994 09:32:15 GMT Message-Id: <31qciv$c6k@thot.u-strasbg.fr> -- Where can a beta of Spruce be found ? Thanks GB ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Guy BRAND guybrand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr Centre de Recherche Chimie ULP Strasbourg (FRANCE) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 03:44:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07402; Thu, 4 Aug 94 03:44:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19768; Thu, 4 Aug 94 03:36:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19762; Thu, 4 Aug 94 03:36:09 -0700 Received: from ester.dsv.su.se by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07883; Thu, 4 Aug 94 03:36:06 -0700 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SUNET/ADMD=_/C=SE/; Relayed; 04 Aug 94 12:27:56+0200 Date: 04 Aug 94 12:27:56+0200 From: Sharon Deng Message-Id: <778816*@su-kom.dsv.su.se> To: "Pine mailer discussions group (pine-infoEcac.washington.edu)" , Pine Info Group From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 07:51:56 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12697; Thu, 4 Aug 94 07:51:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23558; Thu, 4 Aug 94 07:44:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23552; Thu, 4 Aug 94 07:44:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qW3hD-00000VC; Thu, 4 Aug 94 07:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: araw@iplab7.health.ufl.edu (Robert Moser) Subject: Where is Spruce/who is contact? Date: 04 Aug 1994 13:57:48 GMT Message-Id: I went on a fishing trip looking for Spruce. I found only a single reference to 'leiman@ntc.nokia.com' as the contact for Spruce. Mail sent to that address bounces. Anyone know who to contact? I'd like to participate in testing, and I have linux and sun platforms. Thanks, araw From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 08:36:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14255; Thu, 4 Aug 94 08:36:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11022; Thu, 4 Aug 94 08:27:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11016; Thu, 4 Aug 94 08:27:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qW4Jr-00000aC; Thu, 4 Aug 94 08:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gcook@tuzo.erin (Gordon Cook) Subject: Re: IMAP.mailstrom.pine questions Message-Id: References: <31loruINN9bk@umbc7.umbc.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 14:35:36 GMT In article , Adam Elman wrote: >In article <31loruINN9bk@umbc7.umbc.edu>, charles@umbc.edu (Charles Myers) >wrote: > >> Is there or will there be a pine for macintosh? The other versions work >> really well, you're right, so why not a mac version?!? Inquring minds >> want to know. >> > >I don't think so. The problem is that pine is inherently a command-line, >text-only terminal program, and wouldn't really work directly ported to >the Mac. > >Of course, there is a Mac IMAP client, as the original poster mentioned: >Mailstrom. Mailstrom is available from sumex-aim.stanford.edu; NOT in the >Info-Mac archives, but in /imap/clients. Of course, Sumex is nearly >impossible to get into these days...:( > >Mailstrom is similar to Pine in some ways, but not in all. Anyone have an inkling as to when Mailstrom will support MIME? Last time I checked, it didn't. Please send any mail to the address below: -- Gordon J. Cook, Hon.B.Sc. Erindale College, University of Toronto, Canada. "Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers." -- Leonard Brandwein From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 08:43:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14550; Thu, 4 Aug 94 08:43:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11293; Thu, 4 Aug 94 08:38:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from leeman.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11287; Thu, 4 Aug 94 08:38:02 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by leeman.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <19169-0@leeman.york.ac.uk>; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 16:30:00 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for @leeman.york.ac.uk:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA23688; Thu, 4 Aug 94 16:41:02 +0100 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 16:41:02 +0000 From: Mike Brudenell Subject: Re: Where is Spruce/who is contact? To: Robert Moser Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have an old message that says documentation can be found (and I've just tried it -- it can!) at: http://dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com:3000/Spruce.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Brudenell E-mail: pmb1@unix.york.ac.uk The Computing Service Phone: (+44) 904 433811 University of York FAX: (+44) 904 432767 Heslington York YO1 5DD U.K. On 4 Aug 1994, Robert Moser wrote: > I went on a fishing trip looking for Spruce. I found only a single reference > to 'leiman@ntc.nokia.com' as the contact for Spruce. Mail sent to that > address bounces. Anyone know who to contact? I'd like to participate in > testing, and I have linux and sun platforms. > > Thanks, > > araw > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 08:48:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14728; Thu, 4 Aug 94 08:48:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24831; Thu, 4 Aug 94 08:41:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24825; Thu, 4 Aug 94 08:41:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qW4Y9-00000PC; Thu, 4 Aug 94 08:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scotty@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (Scott Rigby) Subject: Is pine an NNTP newsreader? Date: 4 Aug 1994 23:48:13 +1000 Message-Id: I've heard that pine can be used to access NNTP news servers to read news... Is this true and if so, could someone suggest an FTP site for a pine archive (preferably already compiled for NeXT MACH) Regz, Scott.... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 09:35:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17041; Thu, 4 Aug 94 09:35:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12559; Thu, 4 Aug 94 09:29:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12553; Thu, 4 Aug 94 09:29:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qW5JC-00000nC; Thu, 4 Aug 94 09:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: faridf@watson.ibm.com (Farzad FARID) Subject: Pine for OS/2? Date: 4 Aug 1994 14:43:25 GMT Message-Id: <31quqd$ld1@watnews1.watson.ibm.com> Has Pine been ported to OS/2 2.x or is someone working on a port? And is there a FAQ on Pine available? Thanks. Farzad -- Farzad Farid, 37-012. Tel: (914) 945-2175, tie 862-2175 NetDoor/CORE Support. IBM T.J. Watson Research Center, Yorktown Heights NY. *** The opinions expressed here are only mine and not those of IBM *** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 10:05:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18008; Thu, 4 Aug 94 10:05:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26704; Thu, 4 Aug 94 09:59:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26698; Thu, 4 Aug 94 09:59:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qW5o2-00000PC; Thu, 4 Aug 94 09:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aelman@cs.stanford.edu (Adam Elman) Subject: Re: IMAP.mailstrom.pine questions Date: Thu, 04 Aug 1994 09:15:02 +0000 Message-Id: References: <31loruINN9bk@umbc7.umbc.edu> In article , gcook@tuzo.erin (Gordon Cook) wrote: > >Mailstrom is similar to Pine in some ways, but not in all. > > Anyone have an inkling as to when Mailstrom will support MIME? > Last time I checked, it didn't. > > Please send any mail to the address below: Mailstrom V2, with MIME support and many other niceties, is still in private alpha testing. It's going slowly because the author and the other people working on it all have full-time jobs at the moment which have nothing to do with Mailstrom. :( But they're trying to have it at least in beta testing by sometime this fall. Adam -- Adam Elman | WWW: http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~elmanad/ aelman@cs.stanford.edu | Finger me or check out my Web page for PGP key!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Sometimes I lie awake at night and ask 'Where did I go wrong?' Then a voice answers 'This will take some time to explain...'" -- Peanuts From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 10:34:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19344; Thu, 4 Aug 94 10:34:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13891; Thu, 4 Aug 94 10:28:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sirius.cc.utexas.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13885; Thu, 4 Aug 94 10:27:58 -0700 Received: (from loflin@localhost) by sirius.cc.utexas.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.6/cc-os.mc-1.2) id MAA03920; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 12:27:47 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 12:27:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Don Loflin Subject: Re: Pine for OS/2? To: Farzad FARID Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <31quqd$ld1@watnews1.watson.ibm.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Has Pine been ported to OS/2 2.x or is someone working on a port? > And is there a FAQ on Pine available? Thanks. > Farzad > As far as I know, no one has done a port yet. I have been working with Pine 3.89 but I'm having major problems with Pico & EMX/GCC's termcap libraries (thus, I'm still working on Pico, haven't even starting porting the rest of Pine itself yet). I may switch to Borland and use the DOS-specific code, but then I have to actually be at my machine :-( instead of telnetting in (thank you IBM, for including a telnetd!). Pine 3.90 is supposed to use IMAP 3.4, which includes WINSOCK support and other API (function params, etc) changes, so I'm inclined to wait for it before porting the whole thing, given that it's due out "any day now" :-) I'm continuing w/3.89 slowly though, I figure I will at least get used to the code that way. I realize IBM TCP's socket interface has more in common w/BSD than WINSOCK, but the Winsock code (other than winsock calls) is likely more OS2 friendly than the BSD/Unix code, even using EMX/GCC. --- Don Loflin Microcomputer Technologies, // DISCLAIMER: I do not represent Computation Center - UT Austin // the views of my employer, nor loflin@sirius.cc.utexas.edu // am I acting officially for them From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 12:25:28 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24032; Thu, 4 Aug 94 12:25:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16556; Thu, 4 Aug 94 12:19:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16550; Thu, 4 Aug 94 12:19:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qW7tK-00000JC; Thu, 4 Aug 94 11:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: benc@pipeline.com (Ben Cacace) Subject: Pine: Printing to local printer Date: 4 Aug 1994 12:50:19 -0400 Message-Id: <31r68b$r8f@pipe1.pipeline.com> [ Article crossposted from news.newusers.questions ] [ Author was Ben Cacace ] [ Posted on 4 Aug 1994 11:59:00 -0400 ] Unfortunately I am having a problem printing some E-Mail using Pine. I am using Pine ver 3.89 and the printer prints out short memos with no problems. But when I try to print out a memo of 48,958 or 49,039 I get a ProComm error message saying "Procomm Error / Error printing to printer". I am an experienced PC user with some knowledge of Windows (meaning I don't need to be spoon fed just yet ;) Thanks for listening, benc@pipeline.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 13:30:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26868; Thu, 4 Aug 94 13:30:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18038; Thu, 4 Aug 94 13:24:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from aldus.northnet.org by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18032; Thu, 4 Aug 94 13:24:37 -0700 Received: by Aldus.NorthNet.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23279; Thu, 4 Aug 94 16:24:03 EDT Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 16:24:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Thomas J. Blauvelt" Subject: Re: Pine: Printing to local printer To: Ben Cacace Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <31r68b$r8f@pipe1.pipeline.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 4 Aug 1994, Ben Cacace wrote: > Unfortunately I am having a problem printing some E-Mail > using Pine. I am using Pine ver 3.89 and the printer > prints out short memos with no problems. But when I try > to print out a memo of 48,958 or 49,039 I get a ProComm > error message saying "Procomm Error / Error printing to > printer". I have the same problem in Pine with certain printers printing multiple page messages using the DOS version of Procomm (but not with all printers.) The solution I found was to capture printer output to a disc file while on-line and then use the DOS 'print' command to print the file off-line. I use the PRNDSK.COM program written by David Rifkind. My guess is that there's a handshaking problem between the computer and the printer which may be easier to work around than to try to fix, but I would be very interested in an easier solution. Thomas Blauvelt North Country Reference & Research Resources Council blauvelt@northnet.org 7 Commerce Lane Canton, NY 13617 (315) 386-4569 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 20:14:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10246; Thu, 4 Aug 94 20:14:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25858; Thu, 4 Aug 94 20:05:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25852; Thu, 4 Aug 94 20:05:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWFFH-00000BC; Thu, 4 Aug 94 19:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gboone@cc.gatech.edu (Gary N. Boone) Subject: Pine, XBiff, and Icons? Date: 4 Aug 1994 22:41:33 GMT Message-Id: <31rqqt$hp0@solaria.cc.gatech.edu> It seems that everytime I delete mail, then quit pine, my xbiff fires, telling me that new mail has arrived. How do I fix this? Or better yet, what are your creative ways of running pine under X such that it lets you know when new mail has arrived? --- -Gary N. Boone (gboone@cc.gatech.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 20:31:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10743; Thu, 4 Aug 94 20:31:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10235; Thu, 4 Aug 94 20:20:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10229; Thu, 4 Aug 94 20:20:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWFUh-00000FC; Thu, 4 Aug 94 19:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: egin@unixg.ubc.ca (Edmund Gin) Subject: About headers... Date: 5 Aug 1994 02:28:17 GMT Message-Id: <31s841$nrr@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> Hi! :) I guess this has probably been asked a zillion times, but since I've only recently gotten a hold of the newsgroup, I think I'm gonna risk getting flamed just to ask this question... *cringe* Is it possible to read the path by which the mail arrived? ie. the domain!domain!subdomain.domain!... etc. Is it something that can be done by tweaking the .pinerc file? or even in Pine itself? :) Cheers, Ed -- Edmund Gin, egin@unixg.ubc.ca "In life, it matters not what you have received; What really matters is what you have done." --Wong Ka Kui, 1962-1993 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 20:46:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11115; Thu, 4 Aug 94 20:46:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26271; Thu, 4 Aug 94 20:35:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26265; Thu, 4 Aug 94 20:35:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWFik-00000BC; Thu, 4 Aug 94 20:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wilcoxb@cs.colorado.edu (Bryce Wilcox) Subject: Re: Filtering w/ PINE Date: 5 Aug 1994 00:30:32 GMT Message-Id: <31s178$cp7@lace.Colorado.EDU> References: <31p99o$hcr@tesuque.cs.sandia.gov> Stefan Chakerian wrote: >David L Miller wrote: >>No, Pine does not do delivery filtering. You need an external filter >>program to accomplish that. Someone at netcom should be able to tell you >>what is available there and how to use it... >>> I'm using Pine to read my E-mail and would like to filter certain >>> incoming messages to a particular folder other than IN-COMING. > >Check for the existence of "filter" or "procmail" Filter is easy to >use, but procmail is pretty powerful. *FILTER* is easy to use? Cosmos I hate UNIX and this whole ugly little command-line, shell script world. Ugly ugly ugly. As soon as my stupid machine GETS "filter" set up *then* I have the pleasure of wasting *another* few hours of my life trying to figure out how to do the simple task of splitting my incoming mail into 2 folders by Subject line. How fucking difficult can that be? Why the hell doesn't Pine or Elm or something just have a key you hit and it asks you "What subject line?" and "Into which folder?" and have fucking DONE with it? I long for the day when this whole paradigm of user interface is a detestable memory. Bryce wilcoxb@cs.colorado.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 21:30:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12046; Thu, 4 Aug 94 21:30:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11164; Thu, 4 Aug 94 21:18:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11158; Thu, 4 Aug 94 21:18:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWGLK-00000FC; Thu, 4 Aug 94 20:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tin@tlc.engr.sgi.com (Tin Le) Subject: Re: Pine 3.89 and IRIX-5.2 Date: 4 Aug 1994 23:09:55 GMT Message-Id: <31rsg3$14s@fido.asd.sgi.com> References: <3194sb$3ti@news.udel.edu> In article <3194sb$3ti@news.udel.edu>, Randy Zagar wrote: >Here are the list of changes that I made to get Pine v3.89 to >compile under Irix-5.2 > >os_sgi.c: > > Critical change!!! > > In rfc822_date(), change "_tzname" to "tzname". This will work. > Not-so-Critical change... > > Locate the string "/usr/ucb/rsh" and change is to RSHPATH > Do NOT put this in quotes!!! > >Now you're ready for prime time. You might also want to edit the files ttyin.c, ttyout.c in the pine directory. It is somewhat unfortunate that the name "termname" is used as a variable (char []), since in libcurse, termname() happens to be a function. I sent in a suggestion to the pine people last year about changing termname the variable to something like "termName" so there won't be a name conflict. This was with regard to 3.89 so the changes, if any, won't be there till next release of pine. You can just do a search and replace all references to "termname" to something else. I suggest using "termName". DISCLAIMER: I am not an SGI employee. Just a consultant. I definitely do NOT speak for SGI. Regards, Tin Le -- Tin Le (tin@tlsoft.com) | CBMSW Archive on Wuarchive.wustl.edu tin@tlc.engr.sgi.com | Submissions to cbmsw@TLsoft.COM Moderator of comp.binaries.ms-windows | Questions to cbmsw-request@TLsoft.COM From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 21:31:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12102; Thu, 4 Aug 94 21:31:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26974; Thu, 4 Aug 94 21:18:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26967; Thu, 4 Aug 94 21:18:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWGMM-00000HC; Thu, 4 Aug 94 20:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: attached-to-ansi and communication software Date: 4 Aug 1994 22:42:57 GMT Message-Id: <31rqth$r7m@nwfocus.wa.com> Hi All, One of the many great features of Pine is its attached-to-ansi print option. Unfortunately this doesn't work with some communication software, for example it doesn't work in either MS Windows Terminal and Delrina's WinComm. But it does work with DOS Kermit. I'd like to compile a list of comm software that it does and doesn't work with that I can give to my students (I teach Internet classes). It would be great if people could either send me email or post a followup to this article saying what comm software that you know it does or doesn't work with. I'll post the list. Thanks much, Nancy nancym@ii.com -- Nancy McGough, Infinite Ink From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 03:09:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18949; Fri, 5 Aug 94 03:09:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02249; Fri, 5 Aug 94 02:57:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02243; Fri, 5 Aug 94 02:57:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWLWK-00000vC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 02:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: clindh@abalon.se (Christer Lindh) Subject: Replying to text encoded "binary" - help Message-Id: <1994Aug5.071003.7996@abalon.se> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 94 07:10:03 GMT When PC Eudora sends out mail that contains 8bit characters and one has turned off the Quoted-Printable option, the mail is encoded as being "binary" (not "8bit"). I'm not sure what the MIME specs say about this, but I can't change Eudora. This works fine between Eudoras but when replying to such a mail in UNIX Pine 3.89 only the first line of the included text is prefixed. When the mail is marked as being "8bit" replying works fine tough. Bug or feature? Can anyone of the Pine gurus point me to the piece of Pine-code that decides what way to go? I need to patch this if possible as it is a problem for our internal mail. **** PLEASE REPLY BY MAIL **** -- :: clindh@abalon.se :: o/ :: :: :: Abalon AB, Stockholm, Sweden :: /@ :: Earth. :: :: (MIME compliant) :: /!> :: Love it or leave it. :: :: * All disclaimers apply * :: ! climb! :: :: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 03:09:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18972; Fri, 5 Aug 94 03:09:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16152; Fri, 5 Aug 94 02:57:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16146; Fri, 5 Aug 94 02:57:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWLW9-00000uC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 02:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jwitt@orion.it.luc.edu (Jonathan L. Witt) Subject: CC: to Self; Changing INBOX default Date: 4 Aug 1994 17:18:56 GMT Message-Id: <31r7u0$c4b@apollo.it.luc.edu> I'm trying to run Pine on a VMS/VAX machine, and am having a bit of trouble trying to get it setup properly. In particular: 1) How can I get it to automatically send myself a copy of message I send out. I tried to setup the .pinerc file so that fcc would save a copy to a folder, but have not had any success yet. While I could just specify my own address in the CC: field every time a send a message, there must be an easier way. 2) When I start pine it tries to open the INBOX folder, which has no messages, becasue new messages on our system show up in a NEWMAIL folder. What I'd like to do is either: a) get pine to start up looking in the newmail folder (I'd prefer this); of b) get my new mail to appear in the INBOX folder. 3) Is there, or is there not, a Pine FAQ? I think part of my troubles are due to the fact that I'm running Pine on a VMS/VAX system, and the setup is designed with something else in mind (Unix, PC?). Any help would be appreciated. jon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 03:25:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19365; Fri, 5 Aug 94 03:25:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02563; Fri, 5 Aug 94 03:16:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from hibbert.meiko.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02557; Fri, 5 Aug 94 03:16:48 -0700 Received: by hibbert.meiko.com id AA00802 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Fri, 5 Aug 1994 06:16:40 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 06:16:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Stok Subject: Re: Filtering w/ PINE To: Bryce Wilcox Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <31s178$cp7@lace.Colorado.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 5 Aug 1994, Bryce Wilcox wrote: > *FILTER* is easy to use? Cosmos I hate UNIX and this whole ugly little > command-line, shell script world. Ugly ugly ugly. As soon as my stupid > machine GETS "filter" set up *then* I have the pleasure of wasting *another* > few hours of my life trying to figure out how to do the simple task of > splitting my incoming mail into 2 folders by Subject line. How fucking > difficult can that be? Why the hell doesn't Pine or Elm or something just > have a key you hit and it asks you "What subject line?" and "Into which > folder?" and have fucking DONE with it? What astounding eloquence & articulation. The problem with most tools on most computer systems is that the more flexible they are the more detail is required to specify how you want them to behave. To take a simple example from my .procmailrc (the file procmail uses to determine what to do with my incoming mail: MAILDIR=$HOME/mail # # AMANDA mail reports # :0: *^Subject:.*AMANDA MAIL REPORT FOR amanda-mail This could have been invented by changing a few of the words in the manual page / cookbook that came with procmail and *not* required an understanding of the regular expression notation. Tells procmail to put mail with a Subject line containing AMANDA MAIL REPORT FOR in a folder called amanda-mail. The reason Pine and Elm don't shuffle mail between mail boxes when it arrives is because their function is *not* delivery of inbound mail, a progran which was responsible for sending & receiving mail would be even more complex. I suppose that it would be possible to have features that automatically shuffled mail aboutr thwn pine started up and every time new mail arrived, but that seems like a lot of work, and even if it were to be implemented as you suggest people would eventually ask for features like pattern matching and case insensitivity and the .pinerc would start looking like a little language for describing regular expressions again. One possible way round this would be to have the user shuffle mail manually for a bit and stick a simple bit of neural network code into pine so that once it recognised some patterns of use it could automatically start prompting the user... There's probably time to get that in to 3.90 still ;-) > I long for the day when this whole paradigm of user interface is a detestable > memory. If you abandon using computers today then you're in luck ;-) The paradigm of "user interface" is pretty useful to people trying to use computers. Even if someone develops a really neat buzzword-laden GUI driven object oriented interface there'll be someone who says "Just how many ******* buttons do I have to press to specify..." Rant off. Thanks to the Pine Team for pine which is still fairly simple despite the number of features grafted on to it. Mike -- The "usual disclaimers" apply. | Meiko Mike Stok | 130C Baker Ave. Ext Mike.Stok@meiko.concord.ma.us | Concord, MA 01742 Meiko tel: (508) 371 0088 x124 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 08:51:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27313; Fri, 5 Aug 94 08:51:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21761; Fri, 5 Aug 94 08:43:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21754; Fri, 5 Aug 94 08:43:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWQsH-00000WC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 08:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: arice@dorsai.org (Abe_Rice) Subject: Need Help with PINE Message-Id: Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 14:49:12 GMT I am new to PINE and I have some questions if someone can help me. 1. whenever I reply (mail) from within PINE it gives me a message that 'permision denied'. The mail however does get to where it was sent. 2. How can I save a letter? 3. How can I have pine automaticaly save the FROM in eache letter? It would be nice if it only saved the new ones, namely only uniqe ones. any help would be apreciated. thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 09:00:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27580; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:00:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21975; Fri, 5 Aug 94 08:54:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21969; Fri, 5 Aug 94 08:54:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWRAE-00000kC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 08:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: morris@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Law Mow-man) Subject: Multiple Addressbook in version 3.90 Date: 5 Aug 1994 01:43:06 GMT Message-Id: <31s5fa$ami@ctsc.hkbc.hk> I have heard of Pine ver. 3.90 can support multiple addressbook so that I can convert my system aliases into a global addressbook that everyone can use it. When will Pine ver. 3.90 release ? Cause I am using verion 3.89 and find it did not support system aliases in sendmail. Is that version support the common brand of UNIX OS such as SUN OS, Solaris, HPUX and IBM AIX? Your kind discussion is much appreciated. -- Morris Law Technician / Demonstrator Address : 224 Waterloo Road, KLN, Hong Kong Department of Mathematics Tel : (852) 3397026 Fax : (852) 3388014 Hong Kong Baptist College Email : morris@math.hkbc.hk ========================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 09:20:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28731; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:20:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22495; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:12:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22489; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:12:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWRMJ-00000qC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 08:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: leiman@dshp02.ntc.nokia.com (Leiman Ian) Subject: Re: Where is Spruce/who is contact? Date: 5 Aug 1994 15:13:21 GMT Message-Id: <31tkuh$fau@noknic.nokia.com> References: In article , araw@iplab7.health.ufl.edu (Robert Moser) writes: |> I went on a fishing trip looking for Spruce. I found only a single reference |> to 'leiman@ntc.nokia.com' as the contact for Spruce. Mail sent to that |> address bounces. The correct address is below. Never ever trust that email addresses on news article headers work! Seldom they do. -- Ian Leiman, M.Sc. phone +358 0 5104 4453, fax +358 0 5104 4764 ian.leiman@ntc.nokia.com mobile (GSM) 940-5020217 WWW: http://dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com:3000/~leiman/index.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 09:20:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28776; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:20:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08756; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:15:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08750; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:15:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWRWw-00000xC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 08:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: charles@yorku.ca (Charles Duncan) Subject: IMAP based mail packages? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 16:40:28 GMT other than Pine, does anyone have any recommendations regarding other IMAP based mail packages for the PC platform? Does anyone have experience running ECSmail or AIRmail (DOS/Windows based)? any comments would be greatly appreciated. Charles Duncan CCIS From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 09:27:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29114; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:27:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22688; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:22:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <@ARIZVM1.ccit.arizona.edu:brentb@orca.fhcrc.org> Received: from arizvm1.CCIT.Arizona.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22682; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:22:32 -0700 Received: from orca.fhcrc.org by ARIZVM1.ccit.arizona.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 05 Aug 94 09:22:41 MST Received: by orca.fhcrc.org (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA69403; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 09:23:23 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 09:18:18 -800 (PDT) From: Brent Blumenstein Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi and communication software To: Nancy McGough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <31rqth$r7m@nwfocus.wa.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It works in under OS/2 using IBM's TCP/IP for OS/2 telnet capabilities (provided you have updated to the latest corrective service diskettes - readily available). I do this using both a token ring network connection and SLIP from home. I agree this is a wonderfully liberating feature. Please post a summary. Thanks. -- Brent A. Blumenstein | tel.: 206 667 4623 Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center | fax: 206 667 4408 1124 Columbia Street MP-557 | e-mail: brentb@orca.fhcrc.org Seattle, WA 98104 USA | On 4 Aug 1994, Nancy McGough wrote: > Hi All, > > One of the many great features of Pine is its attached-to-ansi > print option. Unfortunately this doesn't work with some > communication software, for example it doesn't work in either > MS Windows Terminal and Delrina's WinComm. But it does work with > DOS Kermit. I'd like to compile a list of comm software that > it does and doesn't work with that I can give to my students > (I teach Internet classes). It would be great if people could > either send me email or post a followup to this article saying > what comm software that you know it does or doesn't work with. > > I'll post the list. > > Thanks much, > Nancy > nancym@ii.com > > -- > Nancy McGough, Infinite Ink From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 09:41:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29785; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:41:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22801; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:28:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22794; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:27:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWRZe-000012C; Fri, 5 Aug 94 08:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: leiman@dshp02.ntc.nokia.com (Leiman Ian) Subject: Re: Looking for Spruce... Date: 5 Aug 1994 15:35:09 GMT Message-Id: <31tm7d$fau@noknic.nokia.com> References: <31qciv$c6k@thot.u-strasbg.fr> In article <31qciv$c6k@thot.u-strasbg.fr>, calimero@lcco.u-strasbg.fr (Guy BRAND) writes: |> Where can a beta of Spruce be found ? I am the author of Spruce. Unfortunately I have been so busy with my work since May that I haven't had any time to finish Spruce up to distribution quality yet. The summer has also been so nice that I've spent all my spare time outdoors. When the autumn rains begin, that's when it's good time to start writing code again. Hope that doesn't come too soon :-) I have also been waiting for PINE 3.90 release, and hoping to upgrade Spruce to same level at once. Those who are interesed and have a decent WWW client can take a look at some documentation I started in May at: http://dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com:3000/Spruce/Spruce.html Especially interesting should be the interface description with screen captures at: http://dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com:3000/Spruce/interface.html One can also download an uuencoded demo executable for HP9000/7xx. The WWW server is located in Finland (see /~leiman/Finland.html) so the network connection may s l o w from somewhere like Seattle, or even down sometimes. The source code of Spruce is at an ugly messy state and I ought to clean the source directory up before I dare to show that stuff publicly. This is an idea I have been thing for some time: ================================================ As soon as I find time, I'll start a major cleanup at Spruce source directory and put it all publicly available through HTML hypertext links. The HTML would also document the code a bit, making it reasonably easy to see the structure of the code. How does this sound? I also have to figure out how to configure my httpd (WWW server) to act as an ftp proxy, so that I could distribute source code and compiled binaries from my own host. The biggest problem here is to assure system security against hacker penetration. I have been contacted by many people who have expressed a keen interest in porting the Spruce code for various platforms. Perhaps this way also compiled binaries can be provided. Currently I have very little time to read news, so I may not read this newsgroup too often. -- Ian Leiman, M.Sc. phone +358 0 5104 4453, fax +358 0 5104 4764 ian.leiman@ntc.nokia.com mobile (GSM) 940-5020217 WWW: http://dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com:3000/~leiman/index.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 10:10:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00983; Fri, 5 Aug 94 10:10:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09817; Fri, 5 Aug 94 10:05:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09811; Fri, 5 Aug 94 10:05:49 -0700 Received: from elvis.med.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa12253; 5 Aug 94 13:05 EDT Received: by elvis.med.Virginia.EDU (5.65c/1.34) id AA13717; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 13:05:47 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 13:05:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven D. Majewski" Subject: Re: Pine, XBiff, and Icons? To: "Gary N. Boone" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <31rqqt$hp0@solaria.cc.gatech.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 4 Aug 1994, Gary N. Boone wrote: > Or better yet, what are your creative ways of running pine under X > such that it lets you know when new mail has arrived? > Just leave Pine running in an xterm window, and shrink it down to about 8 lines. Pine will notify you of new mail, plus you will have a display of the last couple of messages so you don't have to do anything else to check to make a good guess it it's urgent or junk mail. ( The "+" in the display is always a good clue! ) - Pine: a better xbiff than xbiff! - Steve Majewski (804-982-0831) - UVA Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 12:23:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06712; Fri, 5 Aug 94 12:23:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12606; Fri, 5 Aug 94 12:16:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12600; Fri, 5 Aug 94 12:16:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWUDv-00000JC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 11:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marilyn@monroe.ocis.temple.edu (Macgician!) Subject: Re: Automatic filing of incomming mmail??? Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 14:10:46 -0400 Message-Id: References: <31pn9b$r86@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> In article <31pn9b$r86@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, clp@cw-u01.umd.umich.edu (Ritesh Patel) wrote: + How do I file my incomming mail automatically into folders? + + For example I receive the newsletter Edupage every other week. I would + to be automatically filed in a folder names edupage. Edit your .pinerc file and make the following option Yes. # If "yes" default folder name to sender when saving mail elm-style-save=yes -- @|\@@ Marilyn@monroe.temple.edu http://monroe.temple.edu - @@@@ These views are Orders in Pride Land, where no Hyenas live. /7 @@@@ Mophusa: Everything that the light touches is mine. / @@@@@@ Simbha : Everything, hmmm..what about the Dark Side. \-' @@@@@@@@`-________________ -@@@@@@@@@ Lion King / \ _____/ /_ ______/ |_____- /,________/ `-.___/,__________-----_) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 13:21:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08940; Fri, 5 Aug 94 13:21:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28115; Fri, 5 Aug 94 13:15:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28109; Fri, 5 Aug 94 13:15:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWV7R-00000aC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 12:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jazz@connected.com (Reid Cameron Conti) Subject: Re: status of pine 3.90 Date: 5 Aug 1994 12:11:59 -0700 Message-Id: <31u2tv$7d3@gibeah.connected.com> References: <31nlnn$7s6@thot.u-strasbg.fr> > > Don't you think Pine 3.89 is already a very good and cool mailer ? I really > > prefer to wait for release 3.90 rather than having to pay for an equivalent > > mailer with weekly releases !!! Great job has already been done within Pine > > I'm convinced the next release will be very satisfying too... even if coming > > a little bit late ! > I for one agree. Pine 3.89 doesn't do everything we would like but it Hmm... I never really thought of it that way, being the spoiled person I am. I just want it to come out for my internet provider to tack it up, and then I can FLAG messages for once.. =) -- |------------------------------------------------------------------------| | jazz@gibeah.connected.com "640K outta be enough for anybody"-Bill Gates| | | \________________________________________________________________________/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 14:08:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10661; Fri, 5 Aug 94 14:08:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29062; Fri, 5 Aug 94 14:02:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29056; Fri, 5 Aug 94 14:02:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWVqn-00000nC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 13:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: das@panix.com (David Staschover) Subject: changing the "From:" domain name Date: 5 Aug 1994 16:03:43 -0400 Message-Id: <31u5uv$h3h@panix.com> Hello, Our system has 2 domain names. Sendmail uses aliases to handle incomming mail sent to either domain. I am trying to configure it so some users appear as user1@domain1.com others as user2@domain2.com. I don't know sendmail well enough to do it thru sendmail.cf. I was wondering if there is a way to set it in .pinerc. I tried setting user-domain but that didn't seem to work. Please respond via email if possible. Thanks in advance, David Staschover das@panix.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 14:13:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10987; Fri, 5 Aug 94 14:13:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14649; Fri, 5 Aug 94 14:02:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14643; Fri, 5 Aug 94 14:02:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWVoX-00000JC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 13:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: boyerj@coopext.cahe.wsu.edu (Jim Boyer) Subject: vacation -- where can I find it? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 19:39:18 GMT I am looking for the utility called vacation. Does anybody know where I can get a ftp download of this program? Thanks Jim Boyer e-mail: boyerj@coopext.cahe.wsu.edu Washington State University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 15:17:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13458; Fri, 5 Aug 94 15:17:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16156; Fri, 5 Aug 94 15:10:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post1.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16150; Fri, 5 Aug 94 15:10:14 -0700 Received: from ecstest.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HFJZ5PEOF48WYLAK@asu.edu>; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 15:11:14 MST Received: from ecstest.asu.edu ([129.219.9.141]) by ecstest.asu.edu with SMTP id <113180>; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 15:09:59 -0700 Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 15:09:58 -0700 From: Shahjehan Khatri Subject: Test Checklist To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I was going through the "checklist of some things to check when testing a new port" in the Pine Technical Notes. I ported Pine to VM/CMS... Just kidding! = ) I was testing Pine 3.89 on Solaris. The "#" command on main menu with debug level 9 resulted in the following: Bug in Pine detected: "Testing panic". Exiting pine. Abort What does this all mean? Another item in the checklist is "Pinef." Pine what? Thanks! -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 16:07:07 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15289; Fri, 5 Aug 94 16:07:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17293; Fri, 5 Aug 94 16:02:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17287; Fri, 5 Aug 94 16:02:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWXjN-00000JC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 15:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jd4192@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (demaster jonathan p) Subject: use of .pinerc file Date: 5 Aug 1994 20:53:42 GMT Message-Id: <31u8sm$ks4@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> I jusr recently learned that pine can be used to read subscribed mail and I like it. This is what spurredmy interest in this newsgroup. It seems that I can't post from pine. Is this true. Also , I would like to know what to do to add a image veiwer to pine . thanks jon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 16:20:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15669; Fri, 5 Aug 94 16:20:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01772; Fri, 5 Aug 94 16:16:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01766; Fri, 5 Aug 94 16:16:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWXuB-00000OC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 15:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: datacal@indirect.com (Data Cal Corp.) Subject: PINE for SCO, Where? Date: 5 Aug 1994 21:03:10 GMT Message-Id: <31u9ef$g03@herald.indirect.com> I would like to get a copy of PINE for SCO UNIX running MMDF. I would get sendmail running if I have to but mail now works to and from UUCP using MMDF. If you could please let me know where I cna get a copy of the bin files or the source so I cna compile it. Thanks David Allred DataCal corproation datacal@indirect.com davida@datacal.com tolar@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 17:57:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19184; Fri, 5 Aug 94 17:57:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19749; Fri, 5 Aug 94 17:53:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19743; Fri, 5 Aug 94 17:53:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWZUB-00000FC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 17:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsallen@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (Jay Allen) Subject: Session is READ-ONLY Date: 3 Aug 1994 13:48:08 GMT Message-Id: <31o76o$5dr@news.cs.tulane.edu> Hi, I've seen it on this newsgroup, but, unfortunately, I ignored it. When I start up Pine, it tells me that it is a read-only session. Normally, it is because there is another session of PINE running (I already know that) whether suspended or on another UNIX session. However, this happened after I logged out. In other words, I have no open UNIX sessions on the network (I checked several times) and I have no current jobs running in the background. What's up with this?? BTW, HELP, my mail is piling up, and I can't delete!! :) !#!A%*#@@*%g&#@(#%!*&g@#))%&)#i%%!*@@e@#(&%s@)#!%*&#s*)@#u&@#)c!%@!k)#%!&@*)#* --JSA Texas-Ex (Hook 'em Horns!) -- --Tulane Medical School SEISA Exec. Vice-President -- #*@H%#)%%o#@)&@*o)#@!#k&*@#*@e&*#@m&!&*@#@&%H*)@#o&%)*r!@#!n&%*@#s%)&%@%#(#%&^ --- You only live once, but hey, who's counting? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 18:21:34 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19689; Fri, 5 Aug 94 18:21:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04246; Fri, 5 Aug 94 18:17:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04240; Fri, 5 Aug 94 18:17:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWZtG-00000JC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 17:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mc5305@u.cc.utah.edu (Michael A. Chang) Subject: Reply to: header in Pine? Date: 5 Aug 1994 17:32:54 -0600 Message-Id: <31ui76$lec@u.cc.utah.edu> I was wondering how I can configure Pine to send out a Reply to: field in addition to the From: field... I'm running a Linux machine and SLIP/PPP. I would like to send mail from my home computer with the from: field intact, while adding a Reply to: field so that I can get a reply at another e-mail account..... I've checked the tech-docs and tried tweeking the .pinerc file myself... but I still havn't figured out how to do it... if someone can help, please e-mail me... thanks! mike -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Michael A. Chang | /----------- machang@xmission.com -------------\ | |==================| /------------- PGP key via finger ---------------\ | | SLIPping the Net |/-------- http://www.xmission.com/~machang --------\| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 18:30:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19893; Fri, 5 Aug 94 18:30:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20264; Fri, 5 Aug 94 18:26:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ftp.celestial.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20258; Fri, 5 Aug 94 18:26:40 -0700 Received: by camco1.celestial.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0qWaYx-0003LqC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 18:28 PDT Message-Id: From: bill@celestial.com (Bill Campbell) Subject: Re: PINE for SCO, Where? To: datacal@indirect.com (Data Cal Corp.) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 18:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <31u9ef$g03@herald.indirect.com> from "Data Cal Corp." at Aug 5, 94 09:03:10 pm Reply-To: bill@Celestial.COM Organization: Celestial Software, Mercer Island, WA 98040 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 722 > > I would like to get a copy of PINE for SCO UNIX running MMDF. I would > get sendmail running if I have to but mail now works to and from UUCP > using MMDF. If you could please let me know where I cna get a copy of > the bin files or the source so I cna compile it. Thanks > We have pine binaries on ftp.celestial.com that work with smail-3.1.28 (drop-in replacement for sendmail). I've been told that they should work with mmdf, but since I don't do mmdf here or at any of my client sites I can't verify that. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software UUCP: camco!bill 8545 SE 68th Street FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040; (206) 947-5591 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 19:13:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20760; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:13:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20890; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:09:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20861; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:08:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWapK-00000JC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 18:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bernal@husc7.harvard.edu (Rogelio Bernal) Subject: Re: ^Z in PICO Message-Id: <31ukvv$agq@scunix2.harvard.edu> Date: 6 Aug 1994 00:20:15 GMT References: Marcos Rubinstein (pucho@netcom.com) wrote: > Help... is there any way to "activate" ^Z in Pico (or any other key > combination that would temporarily stop pico, allowing me to resume with fg) > (no problem with pine, unless... I'm editing mail with pico, in which > case I need to use ^O -postpone- and then ^Z... but if I'm using pico as > an editor in my shell or in tin... I couldn't find a way to do that...) Just set up an alias like: alias pico 'pico -z' Simple enough. And of course, as always, RTFM!! -Rog From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 19:13:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20764; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:13:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04930; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:09:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04915; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:09:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWapP-00000kC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 18:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bernal@husc7.harvard.edu (Rogelio Bernal) Subject: Re: CC: to Self; Changing INBOX default Message-Id: <31ula8$agq@scunix2.harvard.edu> Date: 6 Aug 1994 00:25:44 GMT References: <31r7u0$c4b@apollo.it.luc.edu> Jonathan L. Witt (jwitt@orion.it.luc.edu) wrote: > > 1) How can I get it to automatically send myself a copy of message I send > out. I tried to setup the .pinerc file so that fcc would save a copy to > a folder, but have not had any success yet. While I could just specify > my own address in the CC: field every time a send a message, there must > be an easier way. Include this in your .pinerc file: default-fcc=outgoing > 2) When I start pine it tries to open the INBOX folder, which has no > messages, becasue new messages on our system show up in a NEWMAIL > folder. What I'd like to do is either: a) get pine to start up looking > in the newmail folder (I'd prefer this); of b) get my new mail to appear > in the INBOX folder. > > 3) Is there, or is there not, a Pine FAQ? Dunno about the FAQ, but the answer of both of your questions are in the man pages & online help. Hack around. > I think part of my troubles are due to the fact that I'm running Pine on > a VMS/VAX system, and the setup is designed with something else in mind > (Unix, PC?). I can't find a reason why it could, but again, I cannot find a reason why it couldn't. -Rog From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 19:13:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20799; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:13:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20903; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:10:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20897; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:10:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWapQ-00000mC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 18:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bernal@husc7.harvard.edu (Rogelio Bernal) Subject: Re: Need Help with PINE Message-Id: <31ulh6$agq@scunix2.harvard.edu> Date: 6 Aug 1994 00:29:26 GMT References: Abe_Rice (arice@dorsai.org) wrote: > I am new to PINE and I have some questions if someone can help me. > > 1. whenever I reply (mail) from within PINE it gives me a message that > 'permision denied'. The mail however does get to where it was sent. You may have changed the access to critical files and/or directories. If you don't know what I'm talking about, seek help from the sysadms at your site. They can fix it for you as well. > 2. How can I save a letter? Check the shortcut keys that appear at the bottom of the screen!!!!!!!! > 3. How can I have pine automaticaly save the FROM in eache letter? It > would be nice if it only saved the new ones, namely only uniqe ones. I don't understand what you're asking. -Rog From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 19:57:29 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21495; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:57:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05515; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:53:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05509; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:53:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWbUq-00000FC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Subject: Re: Encryption Message-Id: <1994Aug5.190442.24604@cc.usu.edu> Date: 5 Aug 94 19:04:41 MDT References: <31696m$bdr@news.utdallas.edu> In article , David L Miller wrote: > >Pine will support encryption in the future, but the exact implementation is >still up in the air. Suggestions and comments are welcome... > >|\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 >|/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) >University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 >4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > >On 27 Jul 1994, Billy Barron wrote: > >> I suspect this is a can of worms post, but here it goes. :-) I am >> wondering what the plans are for PINE and encryption. Is PGP, PEM, >> an API or none of the above the direction that PINE is going to take? >> We have a new committee on electronic forms being formed right now >> and I think they are leaning towards PEM. >> >> By the way, if any of the ISA Corp people read this, what is the >> direction of ECS Mail? >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> -- >> Billy Barron, Network Services Manager, Univ of Texas at Dallas >> billy@utdallas.edu >> >> Until then, I have a c-shell script (inspired by mkpgp) you can use as an interface to pgp. In a compose window you: use the editor of your choice, send encrypted attachments (as .tar.Z.uu in the message text, encrypt a message, sign a message. In a reply/forward you: use the editor of your choice, decrypt, extract encrypted attachments from the message text, check signatures, add public keys. You can get it by (1) sending your pgp public key to deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu with (2) a promise not to laugh out loud at the code. (I'm not much of a programmer :-) -- kc From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 20:17:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21844; Fri, 5 Aug 94 20:17:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05800; Fri, 5 Aug 94 20:14:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05794; Fri, 5 Aug 94 20:14:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWbq4-00000JC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: atl-aust@adam.com.au (Neil Le Quesne) Subject: Redefining Keys in Pine Date: 6 Aug 1994 11:27:56 +0930 Message-Id: <31uqn4$l5e@eve.adam.com.au> Could anyone tell me if it is possible to redefine keys in pine, so that the & cursor keys can be used to navigate through folders and indexes in a similar way to tin ? Many thanks, Neil. -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 21:40:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23247; Fri, 5 Aug 94 21:40:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06842; Fri, 5 Aug 94 21:35:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <@css585.gordon.army.mil:cheekg@emh1.gordon.army.mil> Received: from css585.gordon.army.mil by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06836; Fri, 5 Aug 94 21:35:40 -0700 Received: from EMH1.GORDON.ARMY.MIL by css585.gordon.army.mil (5.59/25-eef) id AA00089; Sat, 6 Aug 94 00:21:49 EDT Message-Id: <9408060421.AA00089@css585.gordon.army.mil> Date: Sat, 6 Aug 94 0:30:05 EDT From: "CPT Gorrell P. Cheek" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine for a 3B2 (SV3) Organization: Battle Command Battle Laboratory (Gordon) I am trying to port pine to a 3B2. Has anyone been successful? Is there a port available that would save me a lot of work. My 3B2 is running ATT System V V3. thanks, gorrell From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 6 00:10:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25551; Sat, 6 Aug 94 00:10:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25334; Fri, 5 Aug 94 23:59:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25328; Fri, 5 Aug 94 23:59:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWfMA-00000JC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 23:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: draziw@netcom.com (Ryan) Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi and communication software Message-Id: References: <31rqth$r7m@nwfocus.wa.com> Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1994 06:09:10 GMT Nancy McGough (nancym@ii.com) wrote: [stuff deleted] : It would be great if people could either send me email or post a : followup to this article saying what comm software that you know it does : or doesn't work with. Works great with QmodemPro for dos. Ryan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 6 05:11:59 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02526; Sat, 6 Aug 94 05:11:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13928; Sat, 6 Aug 94 05:03:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ultrix.ramapo.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13921; Sat, 6 Aug 94 05:03:55 -0700 Received: by ultrix (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA09572; Sat, 6 Aug 1994 08:10:01 -0400 Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1994 08:10:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Mann Subject: Re: vacation -- where can I find it? To: Jim Boyer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 5 Aug 1994, Jim Boyer wrote: > Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 19:39:18 GMT > From: Jim Boyer > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: vacation -- where can I find it? > > I am looking for the utility called vacation. Does anybody know where I can > get a ftp download of this program? > > Thanks > > Jim Boyer > e-mail: boyerj@coopext.cahe.wsu.edu > Washington State University > > Jim, There are a number of places where you can obtain vacation, mostly depending on what system you are running, for each is a bit different. I will give you two sites. First, ftp to unix.hensa.ac.uk or you can check plaza.aarnet.edu.au . Good luck. Hope this helps Steve "If you choose not to decide, you'll still have made a choice..." -RUSH ================================================================== / Steve M Insignificant message goes here \ | CCIS: 529-7500 x7922 \|||/ | | Home: 722-1632 0 * | | Beeper: 1-800-502-2775 or 201-909-1575 oo0 ^ 0oo | | Email: smann@ultrix.ramapo.edu ~~~~~~~~~ | \ This line left blank for no reason / ================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 6 06:53:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04165; Sat, 6 Aug 94 06:53:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15434; Sat, 6 Aug 94 06:44:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15428; Sat, 6 Aug 94 06:44:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWlii-00000HC; Sat, 6 Aug 94 06:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: Need Help with PINE Date: 6 Aug 1994 08:23:16 -0500 Message-Id: <9408061329.AA22045@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> References: <31ulh6$agq@scunix2.harvard.edu> In article <31ulh6$agq@scunix2.harvard.edu>, bernal@husc7.harvard.edu (Rogelio Bernal) write: |> Abe_Rice (arice@dorsai.org) wrote: |> > I am new to PINE and I have some questions if someone can help me. |> > I'll try to answer to the original poster ... |> > 2. How can I save a letter? |> Check the shortcut keys that appear at the bottom of the screen!!!!!!!! You save a mail your received in a folder of your choice using the "S" command (that's the above reply) You save OUTGOING mail you send in a folder of your choice by : moving the cursor to the header of the mail being composed pressing control-R to get a Rich header filling the Fcc: field (Folder-Carbon-Copy) |> |> > 3. How can I have pine automaticaly save the FROM in eache letter? It |> > would be nice if it only saved the new ones, namely only uniqe ones. |> I don't understand what you're asking. I'll try to guess what the original poster asked. either the second of my replies to question 2 (save outgoing mail) or a way of saving incoming mail by folders according to the mail sender. I do not know a way of doing this automatically (like NOTEBOOK with VM Rice Mail), I know a feature called "elm-style-save" exists in .pinerc but I've never used. of a way of saving the addresses of the senders in the addressbook which can be done using the T ("Take Address") command -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 6 07:52:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05015; Sat, 6 Aug 94 07:52:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03245; Sat, 6 Aug 94 07:44:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03238; Sat, 6 Aug 94 07:44:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWmcK-00000HC; Sat, 6 Aug 94 07:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roseman@janu.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Mark Roseman) Subject: Imap mac clients (was: IMAP.mailstrom.pine questions) In-Reply-To: charles@umbc.edu's message of 2 Aug 1994 11:31:10 -0400 Message-Id: References: Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 20:30:20 GMT In article <31loruINN9bk@umbc7.umbc.edu> charles@umbc.edu (Charles Myers) writes: Is there or will there be a pine for macintosh? The other versions work really well, you're right, so why not a mac version?!? Inquring minds want to know. as has been mentioned, the pine character based user agent is inappropriate for mac systems, so even if anyone did a port it would be pretty vile. :-) on the mac side, mailstrom is available, with a mime version in beta test right now.. not sure what the dates are for that to progress, i gather adam is mainly doing other things now, so its coming slower than otherwise. but from what i've seen, a very good piece of work so far. on the commercial side, isa has a version of ecsmail for the mac in late beta-test, an imap client supporting a full graphical interface. i won't say anymore since i'm one of the authors of that system. mark -- ============================================================================== Mark Roseman --- Groupware'R'Us Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary, Calgary, Alta. T2N 1N4 (403) 220-7691 roseman@cpsc.ucalgary.ca Fax: (403) 284-4707 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 6 08:37:21 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05694; Sat, 6 Aug 94 08:37:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03872; Sat, 6 Aug 94 08:29:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03866; Sat, 6 Aug 94 08:29:02 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25643; Sat, 6 Aug 94 08:28:48 -0700 Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1994 08:28:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Mark Roseman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Imap mac clients (was: IMAP.mailstrom.pine questions) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In addition to Mailstrom and ECSmail... Another possibility is Mail Drop by Carl Bell at Baylor University. See /pub/bell/Mail_Drop on ackmo.baylor.edu The development version dated 8/4/94 appears to have the beginnings of MIME support. -teg On Fri, 5 Aug 1994, Mark Roseman wrote: > In article <31loruINN9bk@umbc7.umbc.edu> charles@umbc.edu (Charles Myers) writes: > > > Is there or will there be a pine for macintosh? The other versions work > really well, you're right, so why not a mac version?!? Inquring minds > want to know. > > as has been mentioned, the pine character based user agent is > inappropriate for mac systems, so even if anyone did a port it > would be pretty vile. :-) > > on the mac side, mailstrom is available, with a mime version in > beta test right now.. not sure what the dates are for that to > progress, i gather adam is mainly doing other things now, so its > coming slower than otherwise. but from what i've seen, a > very good piece of work so far. > > on the commercial side, isa has a version of ecsmail for the mac > in late beta-test, an imap client supporting a full graphical > interface. i won't say anymore since i'm one of the authors > of that system. > > mark > > > -- > ============================================================================== > Mark Roseman --- Groupware'R'Us > Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary, Calgary, Alta. T2N 1N4 > (403) 220-7691 roseman@cpsc.ucalgary.ca Fax: (403) 284-4707 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 6 23:00:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18943; Sat, 6 Aug 94 23:00:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16380; Sat, 6 Aug 94 22:54:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16374; Sat, 6 Aug 94 22:54:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qX0Zz-00000JC; Sat, 6 Aug 94 22:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Kevin J. Sinclair" Subject: Any readers sort incoming by username? Message-Id: Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 05:03:06 GMT Are there any mail readers that can sort the incoming mail by username? Lets say my wife and I share an account, and we have wildcard forwarding so all mail comes in regardless if the username is typed correctly or not. I want incoming mail to user 'abc' to go to folder A and incoming mail to user 'def' to go to folder B, automatically. Then when I logon I would not look at the incoming mail like I do now, but rather just go right to folder A, and the wife would go straight to folder B. Which mail readers do this, and which is best? Thanks, Kevin { Kevin J. Sinclair: kjs@rahul.net } -- Kevin { Kevin J. Sinclair: kjs@rahul.net } From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 00:43:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20780; Sun, 7 Aug 94 00:43:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00756; Sun, 7 Aug 94 00:33:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00750; Sun, 7 Aug 94 00:33:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qX24b-00000JC; Sat, 6 Aug 94 23:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: noel@ac.wfunet.wfu.edu (Noel Hunter) Subject: Re: HP "sent-mail is locked" ERROR Date: 7 Aug 1994 06:48:56 GMT Message-Id: <32204o$1g9@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> References: <31n7cf$igo@condor.ic.net> Timothy Kulig (tim@systel.com) wrote: : Mail has been working fine as far as UUCP, but when I first started using : pine on the HP, I noticed it said it could not access sendmail in : : /usr/lib/sendmail. I noticed the permissions set 000. So it could not : be accessed. (Actually when it's like that everything works fine.) : So now I turn on sendmail with 777 permissions and use pine, and I : get that stupid 'Folder "sent-mail" is locked, Blah Blah.' It sounds like it is the _file_ "sent-mail" within the "mail" subdirectory in your home directory that is causing the problem, and not "sendmail" in /usr/lib. The problem could be improper permissions on the home directory (or any parent directory), the mail subdirectory, or the actual sent-mail file. It could also be caused by NFS file locking if you are mounting your home directory. The NFS file locking problem is fixed by several patches. -- * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 09:34:59 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00997; Sun, 7 Aug 94 09:34:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08798; Sun, 7 Aug 94 09:24:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ftp.celestial.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08792; Sun, 7 Aug 94 09:24:56 -0700 Received: by camco1.celestial.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0qXB3m-0003HmC; Sun, 7 Aug 94 09:26 PDT Message-Id: From: bill@celestial.com (Bill Campbell) Subject: Re: Any readers sort incoming by username? To: kjs@rahul.net (Kevin J. Sinclair) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 09:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Kevin J. Sinclair" at Aug 7, 94 05:03:06 am Reply-To: bill@Celestial.COM Organization: Celestial Software, Mercer Island, WA 98040 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2417 > > Are there any mail readers that can sort the incoming mail by username? > Lets say my wife and I share an account, and we have wildcard forwarding > so all mail comes in regardless if the username is typed correctly or > not. I want incoming mail to user 'abc' to go to folder A and incoming > mail to user 'def' to go to folder B, automatically. Then when I logon I > would not look at the incoming mail like I do now, but rather just go > right to folder A, and the wife would go straight to folder B. > > Which mail readers do this, and which is best? Thanks, > This isn't really the job of the mail reader, but of a Mail Delivery Agent (MDA) like Chip Salzenberg's deliver program which can put incoming mail into different mailboxes based on any selection criteria you specify. For instance, with deliver I put something in my $HOME/.forward file like: "|/usr/lib/mail/deliver bill" My MTA (Mail Transport Agent) sees this and pipes the mail message to the deliver program (WITH USER-ID SET TO bill which eliminates many potential security problems). Deliver looks for a $HOME/.deliver program which is any executable program (I use perl scripts) and executes that program looking at its standard output to determine what to do with the mail message. It the simplest form a shell script could do several things: user=$1 # this saves user name which is first argument echo $user # this would tell deliver to put it in my system inbox. print "$user:$HOME/Mail/inbox1"; # save in specified mailbox. echo DROP # send to /dev/null -- it's probably junk. exit 0; Deliver splits the mail into separate $HEADER and $BODY files and sets various environment variables like $SENDER (originator of the message) which make it easy for the user to do things without having to parse the mail message. For instance, if I want to send all mail that originates from president@whitehouse.gov where it belongs using a shell script it might be: case "$SENDER" in #{ president@whitehouse.gov: echo DROP;; *) echo $1;; esac #} Other programs like Elm's filter do much the same thing. I like deliver because I don't have to learn a new language, but can use whatever is most comfortable for me. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software UUCP: camco!bill 8545 SE 68th Street FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040; (206) 947-5591 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 09:45:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01197; Sun, 7 Aug 94 09:45:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26368; Sun, 7 Aug 94 09:37:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26362; Sun, 7 Aug 94 09:37:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXAVR-00000zC; Sun, 7 Aug 94 08:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lanny@crl.com (Lanny Finch) Subject: When INBOX empty, do nuttin' Date: 7 Aug 1994 08:47:26 -0700 Message-Id: <322vme$bbv@crl2.crl.com> Question: Is there a command-line switch on Pine which tells Pine to NOT go into interactive mode, ie. to return you immediately to the Unix prompt when the INBOX is empty? I've read the man but can't locate such an option. Sure would save me a bit of time cycling thru the program (and reassuring it 'yes, I REALLY REALLY want to leave Pine'). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 11:15:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02564; Sun, 7 Aug 94 11:15:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10291; Sun, 7 Aug 94 11:07:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10279; Sun, 7 Aug 94 11:07:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXByg-00000mC; Sun, 7 Aug 94 10:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gjfec@westminster.ac.uk (gjfec) Subject: signitures in pine Message-Id: Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 14:41:17 GMT From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 14:05:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05307; Sun, 7 Aug 94 14:05:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29899; Sun, 7 Aug 94 13:58:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from tiamat.umd.umich.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29893; Sun, 7 Aug 94 13:58:23 -0700 Received: from cw-u01.umd.umich.edu (clp@cw-u01.umd.umich.edu [141.215.69.4]) by tiamat.umd.umich.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA00654; Sun, 7 Aug 1994 16:58:17 -0400 Received: (clp@localhost) by cw-u01.umd.umich.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA02745; Sun, 7 Aug 1994 16:58:20 -0400 Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 16:58:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Ritesh Patel Subject: Re: Automatic filing of incomming mmail??? To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thank you for the suggestions. We have the filter program on our system and since this is also the easier one to use I gave it a try. Only one problem, ... when I put the line | /usr/local/bin/filter -o~/.elm/clp.filter_errors in my .forward file all my mail goes no where. It gets returend to the sender. Any ide why? On Thu, 4 Aug 1994, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 4 Aug 1994, Ritesh Patel wrote: > > > How do I file my incomming mail automatically into folders? > > > > For example I receive the newsletter Edupage every other week. I would like it > > to be automatically filed in a folder names edupage. > > Simple.... pick up a "filter" program such as procmail or deliver > or filter (from the elm distribution). > > The most comprehesive (IMHO) is procmail.....from the FAQ: > > A recent version can be picked up at various comp.sources.misc archives. > The latest version can be obtained directly from the ftp-archive at: > > ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (137.226.112.172) > > Ed > > --------------------------- Ritesh Patel rhpatel@aol.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 16:09:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07277; Sun, 7 Aug 94 16:09:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01907; Sun, 7 Aug 94 16:02:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01901; Sun, 7 Aug 94 16:02:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXGVJ-00000tC; Sun, 7 Aug 94 15:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: omega@falcon.cc.ukans.edu (YANG CHER CHIANG) Subject: Help needed: Procmail installation problem Message-Id: <1994Aug7.162732.70131@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> Date: 7 Aug 94 16:27:31 CDT Hi, there. Whoever has installed Procmail before, can you help me? I'm having a hard time installing it, and it asked for a lot of stuffs which I'm not too familiar since I'm a new UNIX user. I think I have kind of installed it (minus a few directories here and there), but how on earth do you use it with PINE? Thanks for any kind souls' help. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 16:54:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08030; Sun, 7 Aug 94 16:54:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15075; Sun, 7 Aug 94 16:44:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15069; Sun, 7 Aug 94 16:44:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXHG8-00000xC; Sun, 7 Aug 94 16:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu (VampLestat) Subject: Pine Bug - no ~/Mail directory [was Re: A few things] Date: 7 Aug 1994 23:04:02 GMT Message-Id: <323p92$ncj@garuda.csulb.edu> References: And David L Miller spake unto the masses: >On Mon, 25 Jul 1994, Mighty Man wrote: >> 1) How can I set pine to not create the ~/mail directory, but rather use >> my ~/Mailbox directory, where I have the saved-messages files? > >Setting the "mail-directory" variable in your .pinerc file should take care >of that. I used this potion to set the mail directory to ~/Mail in the global pine configuration for our system (same used by ELM so people can go back and forth). But since this change I've noticed that when a new user cranks up pine for the first time, it dies on them because it cant find a ~/Mail folder. I assume its hard coded into pine to create a ~/mail on start up, but since for new users there is no ~/Mail, it dies? Can this be fixed in future versions, so that it reads the variable in the config file first and create that directory if it doesnt exist? I assume there is a hack I can make to the code to tell pine to create and look for ~/Mail instead of ~/mail? -- _O_ Ryan L. Watkins vamp@csulb.edu | Academic Computing Services CSU Long Beach - Network Support | finger vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu for pgp public key From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 19:53:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11588; Sun, 7 Aug 94 19:53:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05345; Sun, 7 Aug 94 19:45:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05339; Sun, 7 Aug 94 19:45:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXKJC-00000FC; Sun, 7 Aug 94 19:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ez008076@chip.ucdavis.edu (Asteroid #1824) Subject: Pine and Mac don't mix? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 01:51:40 GMT OK, this is more a question about Pico: I have a Mac LC, with a standard keyboard. When i try to use the "control ^" feature, to mark text for cutting, i end up typing "6". I can use "^K", "^Y", "^X", and many others; however, i still haven't figured out why this "^^" does not work. Anyone has experienced the same? Thanks ****************************** *Gloria Mercado-Martin * *Dept. Viticulture & Enology * *University of California * *Davis CA 95616 * ****************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 20:35:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12374; Sun, 7 Aug 94 20:35:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18435; Sun, 7 Aug 94 20:22:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18429; Sun, 7 Aug 94 20:22:08 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12317; Sun, 7 Aug 94 20:22:08 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03081; Sat, 6 Aug 94 05:35:51 -0700 Received: from news.infinet.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14462; Sat, 6 Aug 94 05:35:49 -0700 Received: by mail.infinet.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0qWkz8-000DR7C; Sat, 6 Aug 94 08:36 EDT Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1994 08:36:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "David M. Harvey I" Subject: PGP Script To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 20:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Dear Sir/Madame: I sent the below mail and and it bounced, but it was originally a message addressed to your office about PGP Script listed below. Could you please tell me how to incorporate PGP 2.6 into my pine .profile, so that I may use encryption with the Pine 3.89 program. Thank you in advance. Yours, DMH > Dear Mr. Hayden: > > I recently downloaded a version of PGP 2.6, and read about incorporating > it into my Pine 3.89 by means of a script or batch file. Not being a > programmer, I left messages with Pine and with Philip Zimmerman. However, > when I queried WWW about PGP Script, your message to owner-pine-info > appeared. To wit: > > #!/bin/sh > pico -z -t $1 > pgp -sat $1 > mv $1.asc $1 > > armor=on > textmode=on > > I believe the first to be the .profile and the second to be the > configuration for pgp. Can you give me specifics so I can implement this > script? Your help in this would be greatly appreciated. > > DMH **************************************************************************** No Guts, No Glory, No Honor, No Victory, Pillage, Plunder, and Take Heads! **************************************************************************** Dave Harvey Warrior@Infinet.Com PO Box 151311 Columbus, OH 43215-8311 FINGERPRINT 27 12 56 DC 99 3A 01 B8 02 91 A9 BF 85 20 2C 6D -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version 2.6 mQCNAi5A1woAAAEEAL8hYz2lDd1iXU8z9sN+vfAy84fA12Wv9cNQdBkAM2hLH3S5 PZ6OnYvHc7rS66C/DNXAlDr4M+kcy+PzkW4b1DQtVMZu7v8M2ywKKy7SzXDstMOy 1oCRCGOAfgHPLpM2GWlvc/8EP5L+c4MRwA2eg9nWukBeown93VyZOOnIdMCFAAUR tCxEYXZpZCBNaWNoYWVsIEhhcnZleSBJIDxXYXJyaW9yQEluZmluZXQuQ29tPg== =TE9P -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 20:51:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12859; Sun, 7 Aug 94 20:51:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18797; Sun, 7 Aug 94 20:44:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18790; Sun, 7 Aug 94 20:44:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXLC2-00000FC; Sun, 7 Aug 94 20:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gillman@almaak.usc.edu (Howard A. Gillman) Subject: Re: Pine and Mac don't mix? Date: 7 Aug 1994 20:16:03 -0700 Message-Id: <32481j$fou@almaak.usc.edu> References: ez008076@chip.ucdavis.edu (Asteroid #1824) writes: >OK, this is more a question about Pico: >I have a Mac LC, with a standard keyboard. When i try to use the >"control ^" feature, to mark text for cutting, i end up typing "6". I can >use "^K", "^Y", "^X", and many others; however, i still haven't figured out >why this "^^" does not work. >Anyone has experienced the same? Exact same problem from both my IIsi and my old SE. I posted the problems a few months back and got some suggestions for workarounds (I think involving or something--I'd have to check my notes) but it didn't work. Very frustrating. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 20:58:57 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13082; Sun, 7 Aug 94 20:58:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06372; Sun, 7 Aug 94 20:54:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06366; Sun, 7 Aug 94 20:54:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXLNT-00000HC; Sun, 7 Aug 94 20:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mikee@gwis.circ.gwu.edu (Michael John Ellis) Subject: compiling under solaris Date: 7 Aug 1994 23:17:36 -0400 Message-Id: <32484g$p35@gwis.circ.gwu.edu> Has anyone been able to compile pine under solaris 2.3 using gcc? It seems like the current release is somewhat partial to Suns cc compiler. Thanks, MikeE -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael John J. Ellis | Sr. Programmer Analyst | ZIMA ZUCKS! The George Washington University | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 22:50:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15342; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:50:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20546; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:33:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20536; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:33:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXMqB-00000VC; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: PC Pine... Mac Pine ? Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 21:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <31nlr6$7s6@thot.u-strasbg.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <31nlr6$7s6@thot.u-strasbg.fr> A little preliminary work has been done, but we do not currently have any development underway.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 3 Aug 1994, Guy BRAND wrote: > -- > > Back ! > > Is there any project of a port of Pine on the Macintosh ? > > Thanks > GB > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Guy BRAND guybrand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr > Centre de Recherche Chimie ULP Strasbourg (FRANCE) > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 22:55:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15426; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:55:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08113; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:49:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08107; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:49:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXN9T-00000HC; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Is pine an NNTP newsreader? Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 22:13:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/ |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 4 Aug 1994, Scott Rigby wrote: > I've heard that pine can be used to access NNTP news servers to read news... > > Is this true and if so, could someone suggest an FTP site for a pine archive (preferably > already compiled for NeXT MACH) > > Regz, > > Scott.... > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 22:57:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15465; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:57:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20829; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:49:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20823; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:49:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXN9V-00000OC; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi and communication software Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 22:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <31rqth$r7m@nwfocus.wa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <31rqth$r7m@nwfocus.wa.com> We would like this information for the Pine FAQ as well, so please post! |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 4 Aug 1994, Nancy McGough wrote: > Hi All, > > One of the many great features of Pine is its attached-to-ansi > print option. Unfortunately this doesn't work with some > communication software, for example it doesn't work in either > MS Windows Terminal and Delrina's WinComm. But it does work with > DOS Kermit. I'd like to compile a list of comm software that > it does and doesn't work with that I can give to my students > (I teach Internet classes). It would be great if people could > either send me email or post a followup to this article saying > what comm software that you know it does or doesn't work with. > > I'll post the list. > > Thanks much, > Nancy > nancym@ii.com > > -- > Nancy McGough, Infinite Ink > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 23:16:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15835; Sun, 7 Aug 94 23:16:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08411; Sun, 7 Aug 94 23:10:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08405; Sun, 7 Aug 94 23:10:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXNST-00000PC; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: PINE for SCO, Where? Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 22:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <31u9ef$g03@herald.indirect.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <31u9ef$g03@herald.indirect.com> soils.agron.iastate.edu |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 5 Aug 1994, Data Cal Corp. wrote: > I would like to get a copy of PINE for SCO UNIX running MMDF. I would > get sendmail running if I have to but mail now works to and from UUCP > using MMDF. If you could please let me know where I cna get a copy of > the bin files or the source so I cna compile it. Thanks > > David Allred > DataCal corproation > datacal@indirect.com > davida@datacal.com > tolar@netcom.com > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 02:04:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19365; Mon, 8 Aug 94 02:04:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11121; Mon, 8 Aug 94 01:53:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from leeman.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11115; Mon, 8 Aug 94 01:53:33 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by leeman.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <06154-0@leeman.york.ac.uk>; Mon, 8 Aug 1994 09:45:21 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for @leeman.york.ac.uk:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA12854; Mon, 8 Aug 94 09:56:53 +0100 Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 09:56:53 +0000 From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell Subject: Re: Pine and Mac don't mix? To: Asteroid #1824 Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII It sounds like you are using NCSA Telnet 2.6. Versions 2.5 doesn't have this problem. Telnet 2.5 used to fiddle with the KCHR resource which maps the keyboard into the characters that actually get sent down the line to the host. This apparently caused various problems, so in version 2.6 they always honour the KCHR selected in the System. Unfortunately this means that Ctrl/^ now appears as "6". Sigh. One workaround is to type Ctrl/Shift/6 (which if you look at the keyboard really IS Ctrl/^ ... Ctrl/6 without Shift could be argued to be just that: Ctrl/6!). This works fine. Alternatively you can try using one of the alternative KCHR files that are shipped with Telnet 2.6. One of these is called "U.S. - Fixed Controls". Drag this onto your System Folder icon (it will be placed in the System file). Then use the Keyboard control panel to select it. With luck things should now work. As an aside, I found that doing this helps me with my British keyboard. The keystroke Shift/3 used to generate the hash (tic-tac-toe) sign in Telnet 2.5, but in 2.6 generates the (curly-L) pound sign actually printed on the key top. Unfortunately UNIX doesn't like this! Using the US KCHR resource fixes this too. A useful thing to know is that Command-Option-Space cycles around the KCHRs you have installed in your System (ie, those visible in the list in the Keyboard control panel). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Brudenell E-mail: pmb1@unix.york.ac.uk The Computing Service Phone: (+44) 904 433811 University of York FAX: (+44) 904 432767 Heslington York YO1 5DD U.K. On Mon, 8 Aug 1994, Asteroid #1824 wrote: > OK, this is more a question about Pico: > > I have a Mac LC, with a standard keyboard. When i try to use the > "control ^" feature, to mark text for cutting, i end up typing "6". I can > use "^K", "^Y", "^X", and many others; however, i still haven't figured out > why this "^^" does not work. > > Anyone has experienced the same? > > Thanks > > > ****************************** > *Gloria Mercado-Martin * > *Dept. Viticulture & Enology * > *University of California * > *Davis CA 95616 * > ****************************** > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 02:56:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20147; Mon, 8 Aug 94 02:56:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24759; Mon, 8 Aug 94 02:50:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24753; Mon, 8 Aug 94 02:50:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXQqS-00000yC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 02:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl (S.G. de Bruijn) Subject: folder update Message-Id: Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 08:44:30 GMT Hi, I very much liked the prune or folder update command of Elm. It deleted marked messages and reread the incoming MBOX folder. Is there any way of doing this under pine also? (except quitting and restarting of course ;) Regards, Steef -------------- S.G. de Bruijn E-Mail: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl Twente University of Technology, Dept. of Computer Science Enschede The Netherlands Phone: Work: +53 894191 Home: +53 334812 -----------------------==== @@ ====----------------------- signature: file not found From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 04:47:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23071; Mon, 8 Aug 94 04:47:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13722; Mon, 8 Aug 94 04:39:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13716; Mon, 8 Aug 94 04:39:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXScZ-00000aC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 04:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: warrior@infinet.com (David M. Harvey) Subject: Need PGP Script for Unix Pine 3.89 Date: 8 Aug 1994 06:15:07 GMT Message-Id: <324ihb$lan@rigel.infinet.com> Hey guys, I'm looking for a working Pretty Good Privacy 2.6 Script to interface with Unix Pine 3.89. From what I've seen it can be invoked by script when the .pinerc alt.editor configuration is used from the old-growth setup. Do any of you have a working script that works that way? If you do, would you be willing to share it? Any help in this area appreciated. I have already written to Philip Zimmerman of PGP, and to David L Miller of UW, coauthor of PINE to no avail. I guess they don't need any legal problems by officially sanctioning the use of PGP with its intergration into PGP, I can understand. But I am sure, that there is someone more adept than myself, who likes a challenge, doesn't mind that Big Brother is watching, and would be glad to encourage others to get some privacy without major hassles interfacing software. DMH -- **************************************************************************** No Guts, No Glory, No Honor, No Victory, Pillage, Plunder, and Take Heads! **************************************************************************** Dave Harvey Warrior@Infinet.Com PO Box 151311 Columbus, OH 43215-8311 FINGERPRINT 27 12 56 DC 99 3A 01 B8 02 91 A9 BF 85 20 2C 6D -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQCNAi5AlwoAAAEEAL8hYz2lDd1iXU8z9sN+vfAy84fAl2Wv9cNQdBkAM2hLH3S5 PZ6OnYvHc7rS66C/DNXAlDr4M+kcy+PzkW4b1DQtVMZu7v8M2ywKKy7SzXDstMOy 1oCRCGOAfgHPLpM2GWIvc/8EP5L+c4MRwA2eg9nWukBeown93VyZOOnIdMCFAAUR tCxEYXZpZCBNaWNoYWVsIEhhcnZleSBJIDxXYXJyaW9yQEluZmluZXQuQ29tPg== =TE9P -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 06:34:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25081; Mon, 8 Aug 94 06:34:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15340; Mon, 8 Aug 94 06:29:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mason1.gmu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15334; Mon, 8 Aug 94 06:29:09 -0700 Received: by mason1.gmu.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3/GMUv3) id AA19320; Mon, 8 Aug 1994 09:28:58 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 09:28:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Sherry H. Lake" Subject: Re: Pine Bug - no ~/Mail directory [was Re: A few things] To: VampLestat Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <323p92$ncj@garuda.csulb.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There are two directories you have to change (in the .pinerc file) "folder-collections" and "mail-directory". The mail-directory is where postponed and interrupted messages are held. If you change both of these to "Mail", then pine shouldn't create the "~/mail" directory. ----- Sherry H. Lake slake@gmu.edu Electronic Mail Consultant George Mason University On 7 Aug 1994, VampLestat wrote: > And David L Miller spake unto the masses: > >On Mon, 25 Jul 1994, Mighty Man wrote: > >> 1) How can I set pine to not create the ~/mail directory, but rather use > >> my ~/Mailbox directory, where I have the saved-messages files? > > > >Setting the "mail-directory" variable in your .pinerc file should take care > >of that. > > I used this potion to set the mail directory to ~/Mail in the global pine > configuration for our system (same used by ELM so people can go back and > forth). > > But since this change I've noticed that when a new user cranks up pine for > the first time, it dies on them because it cant find a ~/Mail folder. I > assume its hard coded into pine to create a ~/mail on start up, but since > for new users there is no ~/Mail, it dies? > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 07:08:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25845; Mon, 8 Aug 94 07:08:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29049; Mon, 8 Aug 94 07:02:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29043; Mon, 8 Aug 94 07:02:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXUqE-00000PC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 06:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lc@oasis.icl.co.uk (Liam Crilly) Subject: Re: Session is READ-ONLY Message-Id: References: <31o76o$5dr@news.cs.tulane.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 11:37:40 GMT Jay Allen wrote: [...] ğWhen I start up Pine, it tells me that it is a read-only session. Normally, ğit is because there is another session of PINE running (I already know that) ğwhether suspended or on another UNIX session. However, this happened after ğI logged out. In other words, I have no open UNIX sessions on the ğnetwork (I checked several times) and I have no current jobs running in the ğbackground. What's up with this?? You may have no "jobs" running in background but there may well be a pine process running in background. I don't know what type of unix you're on so either `ps -ux` or `ps -fu ` should show _all_ of your processes including those not tied to a tty. If there is a stray pine process then kill it with `kill -9 ` If not, then something's gone wrong somewhere and you'll have to delete the lock file. This should be called something like: /tmp/.\var\mail\user or: /tmp/.\usr\spool\mail\user Delete that file and your INBOX should become writeable again. Hope that works/helps, Liam. -- 8"88"""8P"48"V"8 Liam Crilly 8"88"""8P"48"V"8 8 "88 88 " 8 8 lc@oasis.icl.co.uk 8 "88 88 " 8 8 8oo8ooo8o8o8oYo8 L.Crilly@herts.ac.uk 8oo8ooo8o8o8oYo8 ++ Performance Benchmarking Unit, Client-Server Systems, ICL, Bracknell. ++ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 08:02:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26808; Mon, 8 Aug 94 08:02:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16807; Mon, 8 Aug 94 07:55:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from imsasun.imsa.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16801; Mon, 8 Aug 94 07:54:58 -0700 Received: by imsasun.imsa.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1/ORC/ARA/(PH)1.4b) id AA13738; Mon, 8 Aug 94 09:54:53 CDT Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 09:54:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Bill Gramley Subject: subscription To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII sub bill@imsa.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 09:02:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29778; Mon, 8 Aug 94 09:02:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18428; Mon, 8 Aug 94 08:56:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18416; Mon, 8 Aug 94 08:56:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXWdJ-00000wC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 08:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: benc@pipeline.com (Ben Cacace) Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi and communication software Date: 8 Aug 1994 11:01:33 -0400 Message-Id: <325hcd$7f5@pipe1.pipeline.com> References: <31rqth$r7m@nwfocus.wa.com> Nancy McGough (nancym@ii.com) wrote: : One of the many great features of Pine is its attached-to-ansi : print option. Unfortunately this doesn't work with some : communication software, for example it doesn't work in either : MS Windows Terminal and Delrina's WinComm. [ edited out rest of note ] I'm using ProComm Plus for Windows ver 1.02: - I can print E-Mail if it is *not* a large memo (memos of 48K or larger give me a ProComm error message). The Windows Printer Setup is HP LaserJet series iii si and the printer is an HP LaserJet series iv si. Memory in the printer is 2 MB. benc@pipeline.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 10:44:47 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05372; Mon, 8 Aug 94 10:44:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04575; Mon, 8 Aug 94 10:31:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04569; Mon, 8 Aug 94 10:31:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXY4s-00000LC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 10:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pthirose@antojito.engr.ucdavis.edu (Paul Hirose) Subject: Re: Pine Bug - no ~/Mail directory [was Re: A few things] Message-Id: References: <323p92$ncj@garuda.csulb.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 16:00:50 GMT vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu (VampLestat) writes: >And David L Miller spake unto the masses: >>On Mon, 25 Jul 1994, Mighty Man wrote: >>> 1) How can I set pine to not create the ~/mail directory, but rather use >>> my ~/Mailbox directory, where I have the saved-messages files? >>Setting the "mail-directory" variable in your .pinerc file should take care This is the variable to change, just make sure you change it properly. >I used this potion to set the mail directory to ~/Mail in the global pine Nope. This isn't quite right. If you watch carefully when pine tries to create you directory (and also read the .pine-debug* files) you can tell what is going on. You should change this to *just* "Mail". No "~/" in front of it. >the first time, it dies on them because it cant find a ~/Mail folder. I >for new users there is no ~/Mail, it dies? Yes, it does die if you set the mail-directory to ~/Mail. It does not die when you set it to Mail. I don't know why but I guess the code is for it to work in your homedirectory always. A good hint is if you were to set the mail-directory to your *full* path (/users/cs/pthirose/Mail in my case) then when pine tries to create a directory, it tries to create /users/cs/pthirose/users/cs/pthirose/Mail. The first part is by default (I'm guessing) and the "repeated part" is because of what I set my mail-directory variable to. >Can this be fixed in future versions, so that it reads the variable in the Bottom line - it doesn't need to be fixed (although it should, or at least made better documented.) What you oguht to try is changing the mail-directory to just Mail instead of ~/Mail. To me, I think it's silly and both should work, but hey. Hope this helps.... PH -- I do not speak for for UC Davis, Academic Computing Services, or anyone else. Paul Hirose pthirose@engr.ucdavis.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 12:10:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09083; Mon, 8 Aug 94 12:10:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06813; Mon, 8 Aug 94 12:04:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post1.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06807; Mon, 8 Aug 94 12:04:38 -0700 Received: from ecstest.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HFNZJWFNU88WYO7G@asu.edu>; Mon, 8 Aug 1994 12:05:50 MST Received: from ecstest.asu.edu ([129.219.9.141]) by ecstest.asu.edu with SMTP id <113364>; Mon, 8 Aug 1994 12:04:23 -0700 Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 12:04:14 -0700 From: Shahjehan Khatri Subject: Great expectations To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I can't have a remote folder collection be the "default for saves" and then have the "default fcc" be a folder in the local folder collection in 3.89, as far as I can tell. Pine 3.90 will fix this, right? And it will also make me handsome and rich, right? Thanks! -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 12:18:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09413; Mon, 8 Aug 94 12:18:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23717; Mon, 8 Aug 94 12:13:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23711; Mon, 8 Aug 94 12:12:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXZiG-00000NC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 11:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jrozes@musketeers.tufts.edu (Jonathan Rozes) Subject: Re: setting Reply-To header? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 17:46:32 GMT How does one go about setting the Reply-To header in an outgoing message? The preferred method would be an automatic one... Thanks, jonathan +++ Jonathan Rozes, jrozes@musketeers.tufts.edu, jrozes@emerald.tufts.edu +++ http://www.cs.tufts.edu/~jrozes/ +++ Editing simplified: A one-character RE is a RE that matches whatever the one-character RE matches. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 13:05:16 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11096; Mon, 8 Aug 94 13:05:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07987; Mon, 8 Aug 94 12:58:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07975; Mon, 8 Aug 94 12:58:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXaSM-00000NC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 12:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mba7105@u.cc.utah.edu (michael ashton) Subject: Where to find Xbiff Date: 8 Aug 1994 12:21:15 -0600 Message-Id: <325t2r$le4@u.cc.utah.edu> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 13:06:14 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11169; Mon, 8 Aug 94 13:06:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07981; Mon, 8 Aug 94 12:58:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from denver.ssds.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07974; Mon, 8 Aug 94 12:58:18 -0700 Message-Id: <9408081958.AA07974@mx1.cac.washington.edu> Return-Path: Date: Mon, 8 Aug 94 13:57:40 MDT From: Edwin Barnes - Denver To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Misc Pine seems to have a bug when saving to boxes other than the default. I for instance use ~.elm/Mail since I used to use elm and still do for some things and the format is compatible but pine keeps trying to put in ~/"boxname" instead of ~/.elm/Mail/"boxname". If I save to the default it places the mail in the correct ~/.elm/Mail/"boxname" file. Is this a known limitation? Feature? ... Thanks. ____________________________________________________________________________ Edwin M. Barnes finger emb@ssds.com for more info ____________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 16:36:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19383; Mon, 8 Aug 94 16:36:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29428; Mon, 8 Aug 94 16:30:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29422; Mon, 8 Aug 94 16:30:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXdlL-00000PC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 16:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: smiller@cyberspace.net (Steve Miller) Subject: Pine on SCO used wrong date Date: 8 Aug 1994 19:12:28 GMT Message-Id: <32602s$776@cyberspace.com> When I send mail using pine on SCO Rel 3.2 Ver 4.2 it sends the wrong date. The date is always February 23, 1970. On another system running SCO Unix Rel 3.2 Ver 2.0 pine aborts when trying to start it up. Anyone experienced these problems before? I have had pine running on a different system with SCO ODT 3.0 (same as SCO Unix 3.2 Ver 4.2) for months and it works just fine. The ones with the date problem are all fresh installs on new machines. -- Steve Miller stevem@tyrell.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 17:17:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21152; Mon, 8 Aug 94 17:17:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13969; Mon, 8 Aug 94 17:09:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13963; Mon, 8 Aug 94 17:09:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXeNp-00000PC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 16:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kurisuto@chopin.udel.edu (Sean J. Crist) Subject: Installing Pine in my account Date: 8 Aug 1994 18:46:00 -0400 Message-Id: <326cj8$kiv@chopin.udel.edu> I've been using pine for a few years now, but I've recently gotten an account on a machine where pine is not installed. I've spoken with the system manager but I don't think I can talk him into installing pine. I'm interested in installing pine in my own account if it's not too awfully large (pico is already available on the system). The machine is running SunOS Release 4.1.3. I'm fairly new to UNIX and don't know exactly what I need to do to install Pine in my account. I've found the source code and binaries using Gopher but don't know exactly which files I need, how to install them, etc. I'd greatly appreciate it if someone would be willing to walk me through this installation, or at least point me in the right direction. Thanks muchly-- --Sean \/ __ __ _\_ --Kurisuto (kurisuto@chopin.udel.edu) --- | | \ / _| ,| ,| ----- For a free copy of the Bill of Rights, finger _| ,| ,| [_] this account. | | | [_] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 17:32:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21543; Mon, 8 Aug 94 17:32:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00883; Mon, 8 Aug 94 17:24:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00877; Mon, 8 Aug 94 17:24:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXeZe-00000LC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 16:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmach@eecs270.engin.umich.edu (Rodney Mach) Subject: Image Viewer in Pine Date: 8 Aug 1994 23:08:15 GMT Message-Id: <326dsvINN8l3@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> adjust your .pinerc at the following line # Program to view images if format such as GIF and TIFF image-viewer= after the equal sign put the name of your local image viewer such as xv etc.. -Rod rmach@engin.umich.edu CAEN hotline | U of M Solar Car From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 18:17:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22793; Mon, 8 Aug 94 18:17:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15058; Mon, 8 Aug 94 18:10:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15052; Mon, 8 Aug 94 18:09:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXfKL-00000LC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 17:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: use of .pinerc file Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 15:55:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <31u8sm$ks4@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <31u8sm$ks4@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Pine 3.89 does not support posting, but Pine 3.90 will. Take a look at the image-viewer variable in your .pinerc file. --DLM P.S. Pine 3.90 is scheduled for release about Aug 22. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 5 Aug 1994, demaster jonathan p wrote: > I jusr recently learned that pine can be used to read subscribed mail and I like it. This is what spurredmy interest in this newsgroup. It seems that I can't post from pine. Is this true. Also , I would like to know what to do to add a image veiwer to pine . thanks jon > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 18:17:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22816; Mon, 8 Aug 94 18:17:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01705; Mon, 8 Aug 94 18:10:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01698; Mon, 8 Aug 94 18:10:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXfKR-00000QC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 17:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Great expectations Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 15:57:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Yes to your first question, but I will decline comment on the second ;) |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 8 Aug 1994, Shahjehan Khatri wrote: > I can't have a remote folder collection be the "default for saves" and then > have the "default fcc" be a folder in the local folder collection in > 3.89, as far as I can tell. Pine 3.90 will fix this, right? And it will > also make me handsome and rich, right? > > Thanks! > > -- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 18:45:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23530; Mon, 8 Aug 94 18:45:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15510; Mon, 8 Aug 94 18:39:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15504; Mon, 8 Aug 94 18:39:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXfk1-00000LC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 18:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmach@eecs270.engin.umich.edu (Rodney Mach) Subject: r Date: 8 Aug 1994 23:12:15 GMT Message-Id: <326e4fINN8l3@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> The best mail program to use filters is definitely MH. I use it to filter mail from different people to different folders and to delete mail that is junk. If you would like an example script to do this in MH you can post to this newsgroup and I will post it. -Rod . From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 20:16:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25016; Mon, 8 Aug 94 20:16:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03362; Mon, 8 Aug 94 20:04:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03356; Mon, 8 Aug 94 20:03:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXh6e-00000LC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 19:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ddc1@jaguar.uofs.edu Subject: Mailing Lists On Pine? Date: 8 Aug 94 21:43:44 EST Message-Id: <1994Aug8.214344.1@jaguar.uofs.edu> Can Pine be used for a mailing list? If so how? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave D. Cawley | Where a social revolution is pending and, University Of Scranton | for whatever reason, is not accomplished, ddc1@jaguar.uofs.edu | reaction is the alternative. ddc1@SCRANTON | -Daniel De Leon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 20:16:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25045; Mon, 8 Aug 94 20:16:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16815; Mon, 8 Aug 94 20:04:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16809; Mon, 8 Aug 94 20:04:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXh6k-00000PC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 19:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ddc1@jaguar.uofs.edu Subject: Pine FAQ? Date: 8 Aug 94 21:49:11 EST Message-Id: <1994Aug8.214911.1@jaguar.uofs.edu> Is there a FAQ for pine? If so where is it? Thanks!. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave D. Cawley | Where a social revolution is pending and, University Of Scranton | for whatever reason, is not accomplished, ddc1@jaguar.uofs.edu | reaction is the alternative. ddc1@SCRANTON | -Daniel De Leon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 21:13:56 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26101; Mon, 8 Aug 94 21:13:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17767; Mon, 8 Aug 94 21:05:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17761; Mon, 8 Aug 94 21:05:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXi2R-00000YC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 20:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com (Jason Haar) Subject: Re: Session is READ-ONLY Date: 8 Aug 1994 09:18:01 GMT Message-Id: <324t89$k01@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com> References: <31o76o$5dr@news.cs.tulane.edu> Jay Allen (jsallen@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu) wrote: : Hi, : I've seen it on this newsgroup, but, unfortunately, I ignored it. : When I start up Pine, it tells me that it is a read-only session. Normally, : it is because there is another session of PINE running (I already know that) : whether suspended or on another UNIX session. However, this happened after : I logged out. In other words, I have no open UNIX sessions on the : network (I checked several times) and I have no current jobs running in the : background. What's up with this?? : BTW, HELP, my mail is piling up, and I can't delete!! :) Once upon a time, you were reading mail with pine, and some form of crash occured, meaning that your system mail folder was left LOCKED. Next time(s) you invoked pine, it saw the file was locked - and therefore opened it read-only. The fact that this locked-file problem is ongoing implies to me that the files is physically locked via the .lock file extension. Check for /usr/spool/mail/jsallen.lock or /usr/mail/jsallen.lock (assuming your usercode is jsallen). Ensure you're not using mail at that point in time, and then delete it (it will be a zero-length file). You really should have just asked your System Admin/Postmaster - she could have probably helped you quicker than we have... -- Cheers, Jason +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ | Jason Haar, European SysAdmin Phone: + 44 (256) 790111 | | Motorola Cellular Subscriber Fax: + 44 (256) 790519 | | Basingstoke, Hampshire | | RG24 0GY, ENGLAND Internet: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com | +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 21:23:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26251; Mon, 8 Aug 94 21:23:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17930; Mon, 8 Aug 94 21:15:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17924; Mon, 8 Aug 94 21:15:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXiBU-00000LC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 20:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rain!tsar.Princeton.EDU!fuchs@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Ira H. Fuchs) Subject: Sorting sent-mail Message-Id: <1994Aug8.151150.25439@Princeton.EDU> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 15:11:50 GMT I was viewing my sent-mail file and I wanted to sort the file by the TO: field which seemed like a natural thing to want to do for a file containing the mail I have sent out. Unfortunately, what I found is that you can sort on the From field (pretty useless given that by definition all of the mail in this folder came from me). Is there any other easy way to do what I want from within Pine? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 22:34:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27464; Mon, 8 Aug 94 22:34:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AB05345; Mon, 8 Aug 94 22:30:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05339; Mon, 8 Aug 94 22:30:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXjMV-00000qC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 22:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: max@cs.nyu.edu (David Max) Subject: taking address to mailing list Date: 8 Aug 1994 23:43:39 -0400 Message-Id: <326u1b$7jn@slinky.cs.nyu.edu> I keep a few distribution lists, and sometimes people email me asking to be added to a distribution list. The "take address" command only allows adding to the address list. How can I take an address and put it directly into a distribution list? -- David Max New York University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 01:01:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00668; Tue, 9 Aug 94 01:01:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07397; Tue, 9 Aug 94 00:49:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07391; Tue, 9 Aug 94 00:49:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXlWr-00000NC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 00:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roman Czyborra Subject: Re: When INBOX empty, do nuttin' Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 09:14:46 +0200 Message-Id: References: <322vme$bbv@crl2.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Question: Is there a command-line switch on Pine which tells Pine to > NOT go into interactive mode, ie. to return you immediately to the > Unix prompt when the INBOX is empty? Unless you must access your mailbox via IMAP you can apply the Unix file test operator for that matter: alias pine "[ -s $MAIL ] && \pine" assuming MAIL would hold the pathname to your mailbox. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 02:47:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03009; Tue, 9 Aug 94 02:47:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22570; Tue, 9 Aug 94 02:39:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22564; Tue, 9 Aug 94 02:39:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXnHZ-00000NC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 02:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: john@hysteria.apana.org.au (John Herks) Subject: Help compiling PINE 3.87 on SVR3 Date: 9 Aug 1994 09:08:25 GMT Message-Id: <327h29$opn@werple.apana.org.au> I am trying to compile Pine 3.87 on My NCR Tower machine. I gave compiled Pico with minimal problems becuase it had a makefile.att... Pine on the other hand does not seem to have a makefile for SV R3... Any Ideas ? -- John Herks john@hysteria.apana.org.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 10:10:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15203; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:10:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00257; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:03:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00251; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:03:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXuA4-00000QC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 09:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: taking address to mailing list Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 09:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <326u1b$7jn@slinky.cs.nyu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <326u1b$7jn@slinky.cs.nyu.edu> Wait for Pine 3.90 (scheduled for 22 Aug release)... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 8 Aug 1994, David Max wrote: > I keep a few distribution lists, and sometimes people email me asking > to be added to a distribution list. The "take address" command > only allows adding to the address list. How can I take an address > and put it directly into a distribution list? > -- > David Max > New York University > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 10:11:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15255; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:11:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00245; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:03:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00239; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:02:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXu9l-00000LC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 09:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Installing Pine in my account Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 09:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <326cj8$kiv@chopin.udel.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <326cj8$kiv@chopin.udel.edu> Assuming you are on a SPARC-based machine, all you should need is the pine binary for SunOS. Download it, call it "pine", mark it executable (chmod +x pine), and you should be ready to go... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 8 Aug 1994, Sean J. Crist wrote: > I've been using pine for a few years now, but I've recently gotten an > account on a machine where pine is not installed. I've spoken with the > system manager but I don't think I can talk him into installing pine. > > I'm interested in installing pine in my own account if it's not too > awfully large (pico is already available on the system). The machine is > running SunOS Release 4.1.3. > > I'm fairly new to UNIX and don't know exactly what I need to do to install > Pine in my account. I've found the source code and binaries using Gopher > but don't know exactly which files I need, how to install them, etc. I'd > greatly appreciate it if someone would be willing to walk me through this > installation, or at least point me in the right direction. > > Thanks muchly-- > > --Sean > > \/ __ __ _\_ --Kurisuto (kurisuto@chopin.udel.edu) > --- | | \ / > _| ,| ,| ----- For a free copy of the Bill of Rights, finger > _| ,| ,| [_] this account. > | | | [_] > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 10:35:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16135; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:35:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17510; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:25:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17503; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:25:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXuWs-00000PC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 09:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: datacal@indirect.com (Data Cal Corp.) Subject: Pine 3.89 setup for SCO Date: 9 Aug 1994 16:54:33 GMT Message-Id: <328cc9$4b@herald.indirect.com> I have FTPd the pine 3.89 binary for SCO UNIX from soils.agron.iastate.edu and would like to know if this program works with MMDF. I have installed the program and I get sporatic mail delivery on the system. What I am doing is using UUCP to poll mail from Netcom and then MMDF to deliver it, then for now use pine to read the mail. I plan to get SMTP gateway running and have MMDF deliver mail there for the people using PCs and pine for those who use terminals. But this problem is persistant. I sent a message to a friend in the office as a test message. he never got it. He in return sent one back to me and the same. But when I send messages to root (Superuser) it gets there. The address lines are as follows. from davida to davidp@datacal.datacal.com ---no delivery davidp@datacal.com ---no delivery root@datacal.com ---delivery root@datacal.datacal.com ---delivery from root to davida@datacal.com ---delivery davidp@datacal.com ---no delivery Any ideas????????????? David Allred DataCal Corporation datacal@indirect.com or tolar@netcom.com or root@datacal.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 10:43:56 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16635; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:43:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01071; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:36:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01065; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:36:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXuio-00000iC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dragon@csulb.edu (Brian Lo) Subject: How do you unsubscribe to a group? Date: 9 Aug 1994 17:06:57 GMT Message-Id: <328d3h$4i8@garuda.csulb.edu> How to unsubscribe to a group? ACCESS-L What is the addres do you unsubscribe to? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 12:35:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21370; Tue, 9 Aug 94 12:35:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03563; Tue, 9 Aug 94 12:27:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from trocaz.yorku.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03551; Tue, 9 Aug 94 12:27:51 -0700 Received: from [Family 1: 00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00] ([Family 1: 00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00]) by trocaz.yorku.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA14239 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 9 Aug 1994 15:27:50 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 15:27:50 -0400 From: "Pok Ng" Message-Id: <9408091527.ZM14237@trocaz.yorku.ca> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.0.1 14feb94) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: does the pc pine support MIME? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Can someone please tell me whether the PC Pine support MIME? If the answer is yes, is there any command line args. which allow me to specify a file as an attachment ie. I just want to use PINE to send out an attachment without starting it up. -- ******************************************************************************* Pok Ng | Phone: (416) 736-2100 | UNIX Support Analyst | Computing, Communication and Instructional Services | E-Mail: pok@yorku.ca York University | 4700 Keele Street, T103 Steacie | North York, Ontario | CANADA M3J 1P3 | ******************************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 16:16:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00320; Tue, 9 Aug 94 16:16:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25564; Tue, 9 Aug 94 16:11:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25558; Tue, 9 Aug 94 16:11:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXzwo-00000NC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 15:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: does the pc pine support MIME? Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 14:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <9408091527.ZM14237@trocaz.yorku.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9408091527.ZM14237@trocaz.yorku.ca> On Tue, 9 Aug 1994, Pok Ng wrote: > Can someone please tell me whether the PC Pine support MIME? Yes. > If the answer is yes, is there any command line args. which allow me to > specify a file as an attachment ie. I just want to use PINE to send out an > attachment without starting it up. > No. > -- > ******************************************************************************* > Pok Ng | Phone: (416) 736-2100 > | > UNIX Support Analyst | > Computing, Communication and Instructional Services | E-Mail: pok@yorku.ca > York University | > 4700 Keele Street, T103 Steacie | > North York, Ontario | > CANADA M3J 1P3 | > ******************************************************************************* > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 16:42:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01248; Tue, 9 Aug 94 16:42:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09029; Tue, 9 Aug 94 16:39:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09017; Tue, 9 Aug 94 16:38:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qY0GC-00001IC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 16:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: omega@falcon.cc.ukans.edu (YANG CHER CHIANG) Subject: Re: r Message-Id: <1994Aug9.174511.70300@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> Date: 9 Aug 94 17:45:10 CDT References: <326e4fINN8l3@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Rodney Mach (rmach@eecs270.engin.umich.edu) wrote: : The best mail program to use filters is definitely MH. I use it to : filter mail from different people to different folders and to delete : mail that is junk. If you would like an example script to do this in MH : you can post to this newsgroup and I will post it. : -Rod : . Please do !!! TIA. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 17:14:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02673; Tue, 9 Aug 94 17:14:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26887; Tue, 9 Aug 94 17:09:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26875; Tue, 9 Aug 94 17:09:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qY0qF-00000QC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 16:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: datacal@indirect.com (Data Cal Corp.) Subject: Pine config files ??? Date: 9 Aug 1994 21:35:59 GMT Message-Id: <328srv$p3l@herald.indirect.com> I have just installed pine and I have found out that it will read messages but not deliver them. What it is doing is that a message is being sent to no-mans land. What files are needed to get the system running. I ftp'd the pine 3.89 from soils.agron.iastate.edu that is supposed to work with MMDF, well I missed fsome config files and I have no idea at to what they are. The file only was th bin and not the rest. I need help. Thanks David Allred From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 19:02:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05126; Tue, 9 Aug 94 19:02:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11430; Tue, 9 Aug 94 18:57:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11424; Tue, 9 Aug 94 18:57:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qY2Y2-00000PC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 18:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ks@cais2.cais.com (K S) Subject: Re: PC Pine... Mac Pine ? Date: 9 Aug 1994 22:21:58 GMT Message-Id: <328vi6$qek@sun.cais.com> References: <31nlr6$7s6@thot.u-strasbg.fr> David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : A little preliminary work has been done, but we do not currently have any : development underway.... Gee, David, That's a shame, because it is an awfully good mailer, and slip is becomming more popular. -- ks@cais.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 19:21:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05498; Tue, 9 Aug 94 19:21:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28666; Tue, 9 Aug 94 19:09:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28660; Tue, 9 Aug 94 19:09:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qY2eW-00000QC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 18:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Thacker@unt.edu (Mark Thacker...CWIS Coordinator) Subject: Pine supporting IMSP Date: Tue, 09 Aug 1994 19:56:12 -0600 Message-Id: Having tested ECS Mail version 3 and being fairly impressed with IMSP, I wonder if Pine will eventually support the IMSP standard. IMSP stands for Internet Messaging Support Protocal (I think) and allows a mail package to store it's configuration information on some remote machine. This means that whenever I fire up a mail/IMSP client from anywhere in the world, as long as it is pointed to the proper IMSP server, all of my personal setup information (folder configuration, message services to connect to, what windows were open, what viewers to use etc....) are all downloaded and interpreted for the client that I am on. I remember reading somewhere that Pine might support the IMSP standard one day, but am curious about how soon that might be. The ISA Corp will have it ready in ECS Mail version 3 when it ships in the next month or so. Thanks again! -- Mark Thacker Internet: Thacker@unt.edu CWIS Coordinator Bitnet: MARK::UNTVAX P.O. Box 13495 817-565-2568 Denton, Texas 76203 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 19:54:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06098; Tue, 9 Aug 94 19:54:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12221; Tue, 9 Aug 94 19:50:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12215; Tue, 9 Aug 94 19:50:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qY3J0-00000aC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 19:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mda@news.Wittenberg.EDU (Mike Andrews) Subject: Pine 3.89 on an NCR 3550 (SVR4 without sendmail)? Date: 9 Aug 1994 22:08:39 -0400 Message-Id: <329cr7$n57@news.Wittenberg.EDU> Anyone have any luck getting Pine to work on an NCR 3550 or similar AT&T SVR4 system that dosen't have sendmail on it? It compiles and works mostly OK, it reads mail OK, but chokes on sending mail. There's actually two problems here: 1) I don't know exactly what to have Pine call as its MTA, since sendmail isn't on here. Should I be calling rmail? mailx? With what args? 2) It also gives some weird errors before even getting that far. Things like "folder 'sent-mail' dosen't exist, create?'" when it does in fact exist.... if I say "y", it says it can't create it because it exists already.... if I say "n", I get an error saying "fcc of message rejected". (Whatever that means.... probably a failure to run the MTA right?) I do have write permission on ~/mail and ~/mail/send-mail, too. First thing I checked. Anyway, has anyone gotten this to fly and want to save me a little hassle? :) By the way, we have applied the patch from NCR to the mail system that keeps it from rewriting everything into stupid bang adddresses, if that helps. Thanks much, Mike Andrews, Wittenberg University -- Mike Andrews -- root@fragile.termfrost.org (NeXTmail) -- mda@wittenberg.edu "To defy the laws of tradition is a crusade only of the brave..." - Primus From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 21:41:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07894; Tue, 9 Aug 94 21:41:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00827; Tue, 9 Aug 94 21:38:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00821; Tue, 9 Aug 94 21:38:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qY53K-00000NC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 21:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bweaver@worf.infonet.net (David Morris) Subject: Pine and Digests Date: 10 Aug 1994 03:42:41 GMT Message-Id: <329ibh$ls4@worf.infonet.net> I receive a digested mailing list and sometimes it would be nice to respond directly to the author of a piece rather than to the full mailing list. Is there a way in Pine to do that? If it's in the help, I can't find it. If not, any ideas on how to accomplish the same thing other than writing a note. -- + David Morris bweaver@worf.infonet.net Green Mountain, Iowa +----------+ | To make any progress we must not make speeches and organize mass | | meetings but be prepared for mountains of suffering. - M. Gandhi | +------------Disclaimer: My children don't understand me either.-----------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 22:36:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09010; Tue, 9 Aug 94 22:36:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14387; Tue, 9 Aug 94 22:29:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14381; Tue, 9 Aug 94 22:29:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qY5pb-00000PC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 22:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: julie@soest.hawaii.edu (Julie Jirikowic,HIG366,67108,) Subject: ctrl-J in version 3.8.7 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 03:13:09 GMT We are running PINE version 3.8.7 on our Suns, both SunOS4.1.x and Solaris2.x. I have discovered that the ctrl-J method of attaching a file doesn't work. I'm not sure when it stopped (I'm not a PINE user myself but support several), with the upgrade or before (or after) but it doesn't work with either OS. Specifying the attachment in the header is fine. Any ideas? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Julie Jirikowic School of Ocean and Earth Science and Technology University of Hawaii julie@kela.soest.hawaii.edu Acid rain killed the forests. They appointed a committee to discuss it. The ozone layer was disappearing. They said it was a minor problem to be dealt with in time. They confused the power of words over people with the power of words over matter--which is nonexistent. -Marge Piercy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 01:24:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12695; Wed, 10 Aug 94 01:24:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03854; Wed, 10 Aug 94 01:19:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03848; Wed, 10 Aug 94 01:19:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qY8VE-00000PC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 00:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: spitz@GANS2X.ana.med.uni-muenchen.de (Richard Spitz) Subject: Re: Pine 3.89 on an NCR 3550 (SVR4 without sendmail)? Date: 10 Aug 1994 07:40:08 GMT Message-Id: <32a08o$jt8@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <329cr7$n57@news.Wittenberg.EDU> Mike Andrews (mda@news.Wittenberg.EDU) wrote: : Anyone have any luck getting Pine to work on an NCR 3550 or similar AT&T : SVR4 system that dosen't have sendmail on it? It compiles and works mostly : OK, it reads mail OK, but chokes on sending mail. What you need is another machine on your network that has sendmail or can in another way serve as an smtp server. Then you just enter that machine in your .pinerc file as "smtp-server=". You could also fiddle with the source to enter the correct call to your smtp mailing program. We had to correct the path to sendmail after it was finally installed. I wish this was a configurable parameter in .pinerc or at least a compile-time switch. Hope that helps, Richard -- +----------------------------+-------------------------------------------+ | Dr. Richard Spitz | INTERNET: spitz@ana.med.uni-muenchen.de | | EDV-Gruppe Anaesthesie | Tel : +49-89-7095-3421 | | Klinikum Grosshadern | FAX : +49-89-7095-8886 | | 81366 Munich, Germany | | +----------------------------+-------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 01:51:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13579; Wed, 10 Aug 94 01:51:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17287; Wed, 10 Aug 94 01:47:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17281; Wed, 10 Aug 94 01:47:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qY8p2-00000iC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 01:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Kevin J. Sinclair" Subject: Help-sorting incoming mail? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 07:16:31 GMT Can someone explain how filter works with Pine? I have looked at 'man pine', at 'man filter', and at .pinerc and I just don't understand it. I would like to sort my incoming mail based either on who it is from, or who it is to (lets say that the 'to' part can vary, because I have wild card forwarding on so all mail gets through regardless of the spelling, etc). Can I sort both ways? Could someone give an example? I have tried it, and when I hit enter to go to the new folder, I get a messages that the conection failed. Why is it trying to make a conection? Any help is appreciated! thanks, kevin kjs@rahul.net -- Kevin { Kevin J. Sinclair: kjs@rahul.net } From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 02:38:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14523; Wed, 10 Aug 94 02:38:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04818; Wed, 10 Aug 94 02:31:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04812; Wed, 10 Aug 94 02:31:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qY9Zy-00000fC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 02:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: When INBOX empty, do nuttin' Date: 10 Aug 1994 04:03:50 -0500 Message-Id: <9408100909.AA25765@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> References: <322vme$bbv@crl2.crl.com> In article <322vme$bbv@crl2.crl.com>, lanny@crl.com (Lanny Finch) write: |> Question: Is there a command-line switch on Pine which tells Pine to NOT |> go into interactive mode, ie. to return you immediately to the Unix |> prompt when the INBOX is empty? I've read the man but can't locate I am not aware of a way in Pine. But you can write a shell script around it (we have one which tests if inbox is empty : if not empty enters pine in the inbox index, if empty enters pine folder list. We get the size of inbox as (csh script) : set dim = `ls -s /var/spool/mail/$USER` (actualy we do an rsh in some cases according to where user's inbox reside, but that's our local arrangement) if ($#dim == 0) then set dim1 = 0 else set dim1 = $dim[1] endif After this massaging dim1 will contain 0 if inbox empty or not existing, non-zero otherwise -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 02:52:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14892; Wed, 10 Aug 94 02:52:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05034; Wed, 10 Aug 94 02:48:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ns.infinet.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05027; Wed, 10 Aug 94 02:48:47 -0700 Received: by mail.infinet.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0qYAHd-000DPrC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 05:49 EDT Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 05:49:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "David M. Harvey I" Subject: Subcribe to Pine-Info To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII subcribe pine-info **************************************************************************** No Guts, No Glory, No Honor, No Victory, Pillage, Plunder, and Take Heads! **************************************************************************** Dave Harvey Warrior@Infinet.Com PO Box 151311 Columbus, OH 43215-8311 FINGERPRINT 27 12 56 DC 99 3A 01 B8 02 91 A9 BF 85 20 2C 6D -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQCNAi5AlwoAAAEEAL8hYz2lDd1iXU8z9sN+vfAy84fAl2Wv9cNQdBkAM2hLH3S5 PZ6OnYvHc7rS66C/DNXAlDr4M+kcy+PzkW4b1DQtVMZu7v8M2ywKKy7SzXDstMOy 1oCRCGOAfgHPLpM2GWIvc/8EP5L+c4MRwA2eg9nWukBeown93VyZOOnIdMCFAAUR tCxEYXZpZCBNaWNoYWVsIEhhcnZleSBJIDxXYXJyaW9yQEluZmluZXQuQ29tPg== =TE9P -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 04:39:58 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18303; Wed, 10 Aug 94 04:39:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19714; Wed, 10 Aug 94 04:30:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19706; Wed, 10 Aug 94 04:30:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYBSs-00000NC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 04:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: adminpb@aau.dk (Nis Peder Bonde) Subject: support for offline mailreading in PC-pine? Date: 10 Aug 94 10:43:36 GMT Message-Id: Does PC-pine offer support for offline-mailreading over modem without using slip/ppp? I remember reading that IMAP supports it, but is it incorporated in PC-pine or will it eventually be? I think Eudora (at least the commercial version) offers this support, but I have never heard about it in Pine yet. Thanks in advance. Bonde -- "Be careful out | Nis Peder Bonde, Aarhus University among the English" | Internet: adminpb@aau.dk Phone: +45 89 42 10 68 (Eli Lapp, The Witness) | X.400: C=dk;ADMD=dk400;PRMD=minerva;O=aau;S=adminpb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 06:20:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21294; Wed, 10 Aug 94 06:20:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21261; Wed, 10 Aug 94 06:14:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from scorpio.gold.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21255; Wed, 10 Aug 94 06:14:37 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 14:14:14 +0100 (BST) From: Guy Boanas Subject: Pine and interrupted mail readings To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Below is a note from a Macintosh Eudora user at our site who I'm trying to get interested in Pine. I'd be grateful if anyone could provide an explanation of what's causing the problem and what can be done in situations of this type. Guy Boanas guy@gold.ac.uk -------------- I had a 'peculiarity' with Eudora (for Macintosh) and PINE this morning. I have been away on holiday and wanted to use PINE to quickly delete all 'bounces' from MAIL LISTs that I own. When my machine started up, Eudora was launched as a 'startup' application and began to transfer my unread MAIL from our main Unix server (around 1300 messages!). I aborted this transfer with period and 'Quit' Eudora. I then left things for a meeting (two hours) and on returning launched Telnet on the Mac to begn a Unix session, then ran PINE. PINE only showed 12 messages in my IN box. When I reloaded Eudora it still showed around 1300 messages to be transferred. I then went back to PINE and it showed ZERO messages in my IN box. Is there some flag that Eudora sets in the mailer on Unix that PINE is interpreting to indicate that all MAIL has been read and deleted up to that point? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 06:37:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21764; Wed, 10 Aug 94 06:37:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08499; Wed, 10 Aug 94 06:31:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08493; Wed, 10 Aug 94 06:31:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYDJI-00000PC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 06:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmach@meson.engin.umich.edu (Rodney Mach) Subject: MAIL-NEWSGROUP GATEWAY Date: 10 Aug 1994 13:02:42 GMT Message-Id: <32aj5iINN8d2@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> This is not pine specific. I need to know a mail-newsgroup gateway that will allow me to send mail to email groups without LISTSERV, I am a computer consultant and this question has been presented to me. Any know of one? -Rod rmach@engin.umich.edu http://www.engin.umich.edu~/rmach CAEN hotline |U of M solar car From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 06:55:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22133; Wed, 10 Aug 94 06:55:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21744; Wed, 10 Aug 94 06:49:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21737; Wed, 10 Aug 94 06:49:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYDdK-00000eC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 06:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: danyaon@savvy.com (ACCESS Foundation) Subject: MaiLists to Databases? How? Date: 10 Aug 1994 13:18:29 GMT Message-Id: <32ak35$h6r@savvy.com> Can someone tell us if there is a utility available to convert the WHOare files resutling from MajorDomo and ListServ requests? We have received a number of lists that we'd like to add to our Address Book, but can't seem to figure out how to export them to a database and the AddBook. Any suggestions would be appreciated. ACCESS Foundation for the Disabled danyaon@savvy.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 07:16:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22743; Wed, 10 Aug 94 07:16:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09095; Wed, 10 Aug 94 07:10:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09089; Wed, 10 Aug 94 07:10:37 -0700 Received: by watsun.cc.columbia.edu id AA05998 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 10 Aug 1994 10:10:14 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:10:13 EDT From: Joe Brennan To: Guy Boanas Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and interrupted mail readings In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 10 Aug 1994 14:14:14 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Eudora uses POP, not IMAP. The abort of Eudora may have left the messages in an intermediate file POP uses, typically /var/spool/mail/.userid.pop (userid being the user's actual id). If so, they were really gone from "INBOX" and IMAP was reporting the situation correctly. Once Eudora starts, probably best to let it finish what it's doing. Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York brennan@columbia.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 07:35:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23235; Wed, 10 Aug 94 07:35:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09366; Wed, 10 Aug 94 07:29:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mason1.gmu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09354; Wed, 10 Aug 94 07:29:28 -0700 Received: by mason1.gmu.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3/GMUv3) id AA11738; Wed, 10 Aug 1994 10:28:45 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 10:28:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Sherry H. Lake" Reply-To: "Sherry H. Lake" Subject: Re: Pine and interrupted mail readings To: Guy Boanas Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Eudora uses the POP protocol and when it downloads mail it first moves all mail from the users mailbox (usually /usr/spool/mail/ - making the mailbox empty) to a "POP" file (usually /usr/spool/mail/..pop). If a user in the middle of a Eudra download aborts, the mail stays in the "pop" file. When the same user logs on to their account after the "abort" and tries pine, pine looks in the mailbox (/usr/spool/mail/). pine would only find "new" mail that came in since the download was attempted. It wouldn't find the "old" mail because it is now in a different file. You can either copy this "pop" file back to the mailbox file, or you can use pine and when you "GoToFolder" type the full name of the "pop" file (/usr/spool/mail/..pop). ----- Sherry H. Lake slake@gmu.edu Electronic Mail Consultant George Mason University On Wed, 10 Aug 1994, Guy Boanas wrote: > > Below is a note from a Macintosh Eudora user at our site who I'm trying > to get interested in Pine. > -------------- > > I had a 'peculiarity' with Eudora (for Macintosh) and PINE this morning. > > I have been away on holiday and wanted to use PINE to quickly delete all > 'bounces' from MAIL LISTs that I own. When my machine started up, Eudora > was launched as a 'startup' application and began to transfer my unread > MAIL from our main Unix server (around 1300 messages!). I aborted this > transfer with period and 'Quit' Eudora. I then left things for a > meeting (two hours) and on returning launched Telnet on the Mac to begn a > Unix session, then ran PINE. > > PINE only showed 12 messages in my IN box. > > When I reloaded Eudora it still showed around 1300 messages to be transferred. > > I then went back to PINE and it showed ZERO messages in my IN box. > > Is there some flag that Eudora sets in the mailer on Unix that PINE is > interpreting to indicate that all MAIL has been read and deleted up to that > point? > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 07:48:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23508; Wed, 10 Aug 94 07:48:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09584; Wed, 10 Aug 94 07:41:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09578; Wed, 10 Aug 94 07:41:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYEQz-00000fC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 07:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmach@meson.engin.umich.edu (Rodney Mach) Subject: MAIL-NEWSGROUP GATEWAY Date: 10 Aug 1994 14:13:44 GMT Message-Id: <32anaoINN8d2@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> To answer my question (thanks to alt.hackers for the solution) send it in the following format newsgroupname@cs.utexas.edu the subject will be post subject. -ROd From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 08:33:08 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25059; Wed, 10 Aug 94 08:33:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23407; Wed, 10 Aug 94 08:27:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23401; Wed, 10 Aug 94 08:26:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYF6C-00000PC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 07:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tmorgan@Ra.MsState.Edu (Terry L. Morgan) Subject: attached-to-ansi Date: 10 Aug 1994 14:52:12 GMT Message-Id: <32apis$4i3@Tut.MsState.Edu> How do you keep your screen from junking up in pine 3.89 when printing? Every time I print it also displays the message or send s the output to the screen also. This junks up the scrween and if you want to print other letters it looks kind of goofy. Also is there a way to mark mail to print. Example mark a few messages to print instead of having to print them individually? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 09:24:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27917; Wed, 10 Aug 94 09:24:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11696; Wed, 10 Aug 94 09:16:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11690; Wed, 10 Aug 94 09:16:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYFs9-00000aC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 08:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mda@news.Wittenberg.EDU (Mike Andrews) Subject: cmsg cancel <329cr7$n57@news.Wittenberg.EDU> Control: cancel <329cr7$n57@news.Wittenberg.EDU> Date: 10 Aug 1994 11:11:45 -0400 Message-Id: <32aqnk$s1t@news.Wittenberg.EDU> Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] -- Mike Andrews -- root@fragile.termfrost.org (NeXTmail) -- mda@wittenberg.edu "To defy the laws of tradition is a crusade only of the brave..." - Primus From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 10:07:23 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29806; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:07:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25700; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:01:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25694; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:01:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYGae-00000aC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 09:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine supporting IMSP Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 09:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine will support IMSP, but a specific schedule has not been set for implementation. Is ISA going to distribute/support an IMSP server, or are they relying on the server from CMU (currently in _alpha_ test)? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 9 Aug 1994, Mark Thacker...CWIS Coordinator wrote: > Having tested ECS Mail version 3 and being fairly impressed with IMSP, I > wonder if Pine will eventually support the IMSP standard. > > IMSP stands for Internet Messaging Support Protocal (I think) and allows a > mail package to store it's configuration information on some remote > machine. This means that whenever I fire up a mail/IMSP client from > anywhere in the world, as long as it is pointed to the proper IMSP server, > all of my personal setup information (folder configuration, message > services to connect to, what windows were open, what viewers to use > etc....) are all downloaded and interpreted for the client that I am on. > > I remember reading somewhere that Pine might support the IMSP standard one > day, but am curious about how soon that might be. The ISA Corp will have > it ready in ECS Mail version 3 when it ships in the next month or so. > > Thanks again! > > -- > Mark Thacker Internet: Thacker@unt.edu > CWIS Coordinator Bitnet: MARK::UNTVAX > P.O. Box 13495 817-565-2568 > Denton, Texas 76203 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 10:18:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00395; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:18:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12914; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:12:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12908; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:12:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYGl2-00000pC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 09:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine and Digests Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 09:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <329ibh$ls4@worf.infonet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <329ibh$ls4@worf.infonet.net> Pine currently treats the digest parts as text rather than messages, so no, you cannot respond directly. We plan to improve handling of embedded messages in a future release or Pine... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 10 Aug 1994, David Morris wrote: > I receive a digested mailing list and sometimes it would be nice to > respond directly to the author of a piece rather than to the full mailing > list. Is there a way in Pine to do that? If it's in the help, I can't > find it. > > If not, any ideas on how to accomplish the same thing other than writing > a note. > > -- > + David Morris bweaver@worf.infonet.net Green Mountain, Iowa +----------+ > | To make any progress we must not make speeches and organize mass | > | meetings but be prepared for mountains of suffering. - M. Gandhi | > +------------Disclaimer: My children don't understand me either.-----------+ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 10:33:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00851; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:33:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26242; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:29:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26230; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:29:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYH3m-00000PC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: duval@bismarck.heidelbg.ibm.com (DUVAL Emmanuel) Subject: Re: folder update Date: 9 Aug 1994 11:09:59 GMT Message-Id: <327o67$kln@kaa.heidelbg.ibm.com> References: |> Hi, |> |> I very much liked the prune or folder update command of Elm. |> It deleted marked messages and reread the incoming MBOX folder. |> Is there any way of doing this under pine also? (except quitting |> and restarting of course ;) |> Try to type $ ______________________________________________________________________________ |\_ \|\|| -' | `. -- ||||/ /7 `-._ /7 |||||/ / `-.____/ |||||||/`-.____________ \-'_ \-' ||||||||| `-._ -- `-. -/||||||||\ `` -`. |\ /||||||\ \_ | `\\ | \ \_______...-//|||\|________...---'\ \ \\ | \ \ || | \ ``-.__--. | \ | ``-.__-. | |\ \ / | |\ \ ``---'/ / | | ``--' _/ / _| ) __/_/ / _| ) __/ / _| | /,__/ /,__/ /,_/,__/_/,__/ /,__/ /,__/ DUVAL Emmanuel e-mail : duval@scinfo.u-nancy.fr ______________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 10:33:16 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00875; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:33:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26183; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:27:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26177; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:27:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYGuu-00000rC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 09:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: support for offline mailreading in PC-pine? Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 09:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Not yet, but it is getting higher on the to-do list.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 10 Aug 1994, Nis Peder Bonde wrote: > Does PC-pine offer support for offline-mailreading over modem without using > slip/ppp? I remember reading that IMAP supports it, but is it incorporated > in PC-pine or will it eventually be? > > I think Eudora (at least the commercial version) offers this support, but > I have never heard about it in Pine yet. > > Thanks in advance. > > Bonde > -- > "Be careful out | Nis Peder Bonde, Aarhus University > among the English" | Internet: adminpb@aau.dk Phone: +45 89 42 10 68 > (Eli Lapp, The Witness) | X.400: C=dk;ADMD=dk400;PRMD=minerva;O=aau;S=adminpb > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 10:37:11 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01013; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:37:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26325; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:32:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26317; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:32:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYGux-00000sC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 09:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 09:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <32apis$4i3@Tut.MsState.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32apis$4i3@Tut.MsState.Edu> On 10 Aug 1994, Terry L. Morgan wrote: > How do you keep your screen from junking up in pine 3.89 when printing? > > > Every time I print it also displays the message or send s the output to the > screen also. This junks up the scrween and if you want to print other letters > it looks kind of goofy. > This is a problem with the communication software on your PC... > Also is there a way to mark mail to print. Example mark a few messages to > print instead of having to print them individually? > Not yet, but it will be available in Pine 3.90 (scheduled for Aug 22 release). --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 11:03:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01890; Wed, 10 Aug 94 11:03:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13840; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:57:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13834; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:57:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYHP8-00000VC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tmeush1@umbc.edu (Tim Meushaw) Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi Date: 10 Aug 1994 17:11:47 GMT Message-Id: <32b1oj$cu4@news.umbc.edu> References: <32apis$4i3@Tut.MsState.Edu> David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : Not yet, but it will be available in Pine 3.90 (scheduled for Aug 22 : release). I've been reading replys like this for a while, and I'm curious: what ISN'T going to be in 3.90? It seems to me that this is a MAJOR change, if all these new things are going to be in it, so it puzzles me as to why it isn't going to be Pine 4.00 or something. (not that it really MATTERS to me...I mean, our systems here are still using Emacs 18.59, so I don't expect us to upgrade Pine for a couple years....) -- ------------------------ Timothy A. Meushaw tmeush1@gl.umbc.edu http://umbc8.umbc.edu/~tmeush1/ University of Maryland, Baltimore County "May whatever god you believe in have mercy on your soul." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 11:25:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02585; Wed, 10 Aug 94 11:25:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27263; Wed, 10 Aug 94 11:20:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27257; Wed, 10 Aug 94 11:20:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYHpz-00000aC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simon@midland.co.nz (Simon Lyall) Subject: Stop deletion of sent-mail Date: 10 Aug 1994 17:46:41 GMT Message-Id: <32b3q2$rc0@news.midland.co.nz> I was wondering if there is a way to stop pine trying to delete all my old sent-mail-* boxes at the start of every month?? This is very anoying as I want to keep them, I have gone through the man page and the pinerc but I don't see any obvious option that turns this off ( No doubt it's right in front of my eyes though ). If there is no proper way will commenting out the "last prune date" or whatever near the bottom of the .pinerc work?? Thanks in advance. -- Simon J. Lyall. | Lots of Jobs | Email - simon@midland.co.nz "Inside me Im Screaming, Nobody pays any attention. " | MT. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 14:17:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09335; Wed, 10 Aug 94 14:17:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17593; Wed, 10 Aug 94 14:11:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17587; Wed, 10 Aug 94 14:11:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYKVp-00000PC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 13:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rgm@mail.ast.cam.ac.uk (Richard McMahon) Subject: Re: When INBOX empty, do nuttin' Date: 10 Aug 1994 20:40:54 GMT Message-Id: <32be0m$f@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: <322vme$bbv@crl2.crl.com> >> Question: Is there a command-line switch on Pine which tells Pine to >> NOT go into interactive mode, ie. to return you immediately to the >> Unix prompt when the INBOX is empty? > >Unless you must access your mailbox via IMAP you can apply the Unix >file test operator for that matter: > >alias pine "[ -s $MAIL ] && \pine" > >assuming MAIL would hold the pathname to your mailbox. > Can the above be modified to open an alternative folder if inbox in empty an alternative to $MAIL could be /var/spool/mail/$USER I would like pine to open my mbox where I save all messages that have been read. Richard G. McMahon | University of Cambridge | Phone(direct) 44-(0)223-337519 Institute of Astronomy | (secretary) 44-(0)223-337548 Madingley Rd | FAX 44-(0)223-337523 Cambridge | email(internet) rgm@mail.ast.cam.ac.uk CB3 OHA | U K. | SPAN RLESIS(19463)::APM3(63521)::RGM | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 15:15:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11774; Wed, 10 Aug 94 15:15:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01848; Wed, 10 Aug 94 15:10:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from stein1.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01842; Wed, 10 Aug 94 15:10:36 -0700 Received: by stein1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05896; Wed, 10 Aug 94 15:10:35 -0700 From: Konrad Schroder Message-Id: <9408102210.AA05896@stein1.u.washington.edu> X-Sender: perseant@stein1.u.washington.edu Subject: Pine needed w/o Internet mail service To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 15:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 773 I just took a call this morning from a person who is trying to install Pine as an *in-house* mailing system in Alabama: that is, they don't have Internet connectivity or even a UUCP link, and coming into the lab here isn't really practical. He's willing to pay shipping, etc., if someone will send him disks containing both Unix and DOS versions of Pine. I told him I'd pass the information along to you and have you mail a response either way. His address is: Jay Bailey Emerson Electric Corp. Yellow Creek Rd. P.O. box 1439 Vernon, Alabama, 35592 Konrad Schroder perseant@u.washington.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 16:17:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14665; Wed, 10 Aug 94 16:17:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20105; Wed, 10 Aug 94 16:14:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ULTRIX.UOR.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20099; Wed, 10 Aug 94 16:14:08 -0700 Received: by ultrix.uor.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA24615; Wed, 10 Aug 94 16:16:25 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 16:16:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Sharon X Deng Subject: To: Pine Info Group Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 16:33:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15193; Wed, 10 Aug 94 16:33:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20413; Wed, 10 Aug 94 16:29:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20407; Wed, 10 Aug 94 16:29:58 -0700 Received: from ester.dsv.su.se by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17641; Wed, 10 Aug 94 16:29:52 -0700 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SUNET/ADMD=_/C=SE/; Relayed; 11 Aug 94 01:23:32+0200 Date: 11 Aug 94 01:23:32+0200 From: Sharon Deng Message-Id: <787727*@su-kom.dsv.su.se> To: "Pine mailer discussions group (pine-infoEcac.washington.edu)" , Pine Info Group From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 17:52:37 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18124; Wed, 10 Aug 94 17:52:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04972; Wed, 10 Aug 94 17:48:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04966; Wed, 10 Aug 94 17:48:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYNqI-00000VC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 17:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stankerr@uiuc.edu (Stan Kerr) Subject: Pine and disk quotas Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 16:41:08 -0500 Message-Id: Many of our people now use pine, but are constrained by quotas on system mailbox space. In one case I saw this week, a person with a lot of mail was over quota and tried to use pine to delete a bunch of messages, so as to get under quota. She did everything correctly to delete the messages, and pine politely asked for confirmation when she exited. However, the messages were not deleted. I tried it myself and it did the same thing. Finally I resorted to good old Berkeley 'mail', which had no trouble at all removing messages. Our systems folks are overworked and not excited about poring over pine's code to see how this problem might be addressed, so they're basically ignoring it (as far as I can tell). If someone has solved it, and can pass along the solution, we would be grateful. -- Stan Kerr, Computing & Communications Services Office/U of Illinois stankerr@uiuc.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 20:29:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21058; Wed, 10 Aug 94 20:29:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24014; Wed, 10 Aug 94 20:25:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24008; Wed, 10 Aug 94 20:25:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYQHF-00000iC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 19:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jazz@connected.com (Reid Cameron Conti) Subject: Re: When INBOX empty, do nuttin' Date: 10 Aug 1994 17:31:05 -0700 Message-Id: <32brg9$36d@gibeah.connected.com> References: <322vme$bbv@crl2.crl.com> > such an option. Sure would save me a bit of time cycling thru the > program (and reassuring it 'yes, I REALLY REALLY want to leave Pine'). I don't know about the former.. But, I *DO* know that you can set it so that there is no y/n question when you exit. also, because I move mail to other boxes often, I set pine so that it wouldn't question me on expunge. Check yer .pinerc file -- |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | jazz@gibeah.connected.com "640K outta be enough for anybody"-Bill Gates | | http://gibeah.connected.com/~jazz/jazz.homepage.html | Long Live Dhall! | \_________________________________________________________________________/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 20:51:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21470; Wed, 10 Aug 94 20:51:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07317; Wed, 10 Aug 94 20:48:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07310; Wed, 10 Aug 94 20:48:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYQZV-00000eC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 20:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Misc Date: 9 Aug 1994 17:06:13 GMT Message-Id: <328d25$p6n@news.halcyon.com> References: <9408081958.AA07974@mx1.cac.washington.edu> emb@denver.ssds.com (Edwin Barnes - Denver) writes: >Pine seems to have a bug when saving to boxes other than the default. I >for instance use ~.elm/Mail since I used to use elm and still do for some >things and the format is compatible but pine keeps trying to put in ~/"boxname" >instead of ~/.elm/Mail/"boxname". If I save to the default it places the >mail in the correct ~/.elm/Mail/"boxname" file. >Is this a known limitation? Feature? ... I also use both Pine and Elm for mail and what I've done is link each of their folder directories (mail for Pine and Mail for Elm) to a directory called Folders. This way you avoid having to change settings in the .pinerc and elmrc. Here's one way to do this: cd mkdir Folders cp mail/* Folders/* cp -i Mail/* Folders/* mv Mail/redundant_filename Folders/new_filename ls Folders rm mail/* rm Mail/* rmdir mail rmdir Mail ln -s Folders mail ln -s Folders Mail Hope this is helpful, Nancy -- Nancy McGough, Infinite Ink From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 22:04:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22767; Wed, 10 Aug 94 22:04:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08223; Wed, 10 Aug 94 21:54:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08217; Wed, 10 Aug 94 21:54:53 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26487; Wed, 10 Aug 94 21:54:49 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 21:54:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Tim Meushaw Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 4.0 (was attached-to-ansi) In-Reply-To: <32b1oj$cu4@news.umbc.edu> Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Tim, There is indeed a lot new in Pine 3.90, but there is still much more to be done, e.g. IMAP4 compatibility, hierarchy support, white pages dir. support, offline operation, additional MIME capabilities, etc, etc. We're saving "4.0" for some of those, especially IMAP4 compatibility, as in "Pine 4 supports IMAP 4". -teg On 10 Aug 1994, Tim Meushaw wrote: > David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: > : Not yet, but it will be available in Pine 3.90 (scheduled for Aug 22 > : release). > > I've been reading replys like this for a while, and I'm curious: what > ISN'T going to be in 3.90? It seems to me that this is a MAJOR > change, if all these new things are going to be in it, so it puzzles > me as to why it isn't going to be Pine 4.00 or something. (not that it > really MATTERS to me...I mean, our systems here are still using Emacs > 18.59, so I don't expect us to upgrade Pine for a couple years....) > > -- > ------------------------ > Timothy A. Meushaw tmeush1@gl.umbc.edu http://umbc8.umbc.edu/~tmeush1/ > University of Maryland, Baltimore County > "May whatever god you believe in have mercy on your soul." > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 11 01:17:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26705; Thu, 11 Aug 94 01:17:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27792; Thu, 11 Aug 94 01:09:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27786; Thu, 11 Aug 94 01:09:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYUmL-00000hC; Thu, 11 Aug 94 00:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jtklehto@stekt8.oulu.fi (Janne Kukonlehto) Subject: Re: Pine and Digests Date: 11 Aug 1994 07:24:42 GMT Message-Id: <32cjnq$svi@ousrvr.oulu.fi> References: <329ibh$ls4@worf.infonet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit David Morris wrote: > I receive a digested mailing list and sometimes it would be nice to > respond directly to the author of a piece rather than to the full mailing > list. Is there a way in Pine to do that? If it's in the help, I can't > find it. > > If not, any ideas on how to accomplish the same thing other than writing > a note. Procmail comes with program formail which can be used to transform a digest to a email folder. After transformation you can use pine to answer to the author of a piece. 1. Use pine export command to save the digest to a file and exit pine. 2. Type 'formail +1 -ds cat >~/mail/some_folder' 3. Type 'pine -f some_folder' 4. Select the piece and press 'r' (pine reply command). -- Janne Kukonlehto*jtklehto@stekt.oulu.fi*http://stekt.oulu.fi/~jtklehto From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 11 03:14:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29285; Thu, 11 Aug 94 03:14:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12332; Thu, 11 Aug 94 03:07:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12326; Thu, 11 Aug 94 03:07:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYWZw-00000eC; Thu, 11 Aug 94 02:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: radix@io.com (Radix) Subject: killing unwanted mail Date: 11 Aug 1994 09:35:11 GMT Message-Id: <32crcf$egu@illuminati.io.com> Hi, I was wondering if there's a way to kill incoming mail by username or domain name when using pine (on VMS). Thanks! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 11 03:40:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29948; Thu, 11 Aug 94 03:40:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29627; Thu, 11 Aug 94 03:35:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29621; Thu, 11 Aug 94 03:35:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYX3U-00000eC; Thu, 11 Aug 94 03:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rgm@mail.ast.cam.ac.uk (Richard McMahon) Subject: Pine 3.89 Answered becomes New when saved to a folder Date: 11 Aug 1994 10:08:05 GMT Message-Id: <32cta5$drh@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> I am using Pine 3.89 under SunOS 4. When I use reply for a message in INBOX an A gets prefixed to signify that I have answered the email. I have configured PINE to autosave all read messages to a folder mbox. When I now open mbox the message is now flagged as N. Is this a bug/feature. This sort of defeats the purpose of the A flag, which I find very useful From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 11 04:12:34 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01299; Thu, 11 Aug 94 04:12:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13298; Thu, 11 Aug 94 04:07:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13292; Thu, 11 Aug 94 04:07:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYXQ1-00000jC; Thu, 11 Aug 94 03:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Help: Pine and AIX 3.2.4 Message-Id: <1994Aug10.134721.825@weston.com> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 13:47:21 GMT Does anyone have this working? Thanks Wes -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 11 04:28:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01534; Thu, 11 Aug 94 04:28:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00549; Thu, 11 Aug 94 04:22:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00543; Thu, 11 Aug 94 04:22:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYXfb-00000eC; Thu, 11 Aug 94 03:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl (S.G. de Bruijn) Subject: Re: folder update Message-Id: References: <327o67$kln@kaa.heidelbg.ibm.com> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 06:38:02 GMT DUVAL Emmanuel (duval@bismarck.heidelbg.ibm.com) wrote: : |> Hi, : |> : |> I very much liked the prune or folder update command of Elm. : |> It deleted marked messages and reread the incoming MBOX folder. : |> Is there any way of doing this under pine also? (except quitting : |> and restarting of course ;) : |> : Try to type $ Yes, that is en Elm... In Pine I get a folder Sort command... Any equivalence of $ in pine? ( that's what i meant, sorry for being not clear ) Steef -------------- S.G. de Bruijn E-Mail: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl Twente University of Technology, Dept. of Computer Science Enschede The Netherlands Phone: Work: +53 894191 Home: +53 334812 -----------------------==== @@ ====----------------------- signature: file not found From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 11 08:20:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06263; Thu, 11 Aug 94 08:20:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16410; Thu, 11 Aug 94 08:13:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16404; Thu, 11 Aug 94 08:13:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYbJz-00000aC; Thu, 11 Aug 94 07:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cbodom@sunmuw1 (Brian Odom) Subject: Eudora Help?! Date: 11 Aug 1994 14:19:52 GMT Message-Id: <32dc28$1fo@Tut.MsState.Edu> Hello everyone, I know this is a PINE forum, but I don't know where else to turn. I am currently at a school that uses PINE, but am soon moving to a position at a school that uses EUDORA. Any information on this program would be appreciated. Especially information on where to find more information on the net.........Thanks in advance Brian Odom cbodom@sunmuw1.muw.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 11 09:40:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10339; Thu, 11 Aug 94 09:40:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05568; Thu, 11 Aug 94 09:34:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05562; Thu, 11 Aug 94 09:34:32 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00897; Thu, 11 Aug 94 09:34:09 -0700 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 09:34:08 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Richard McMahon Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.89 Answered becomes New when saved to a folder In-Reply-To: <32cta5$drh@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This will be fixed in Pine 3.90. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 11 Aug 1994, Richard McMahon wrote: > I am using Pine 3.89 under SunOS 4. When I use reply for > a message in INBOX an A gets prefixed to signify that > I have answered the email. I have configured PINE to > autosave all read messages to a folder mbox. When I now > open mbox the message is now flagged as N. Is this > a bug/feature. This sort of defeats the purpose of > the A flag, which I find very useful > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 11 11:59:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16864; Thu, 11 Aug 94 11:59:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08724; Thu, 11 Aug 94 11:54:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08718; Thu, 11 Aug 94 11:54:30 -0700 Received: from genesis.tdhca.texas.gov by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08415; Thu, 11 Aug 94 11:54:29 -0700 Received: by genesis.tdhca.texas.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA13124; Thu, 11 Aug 1994 13:53:47 +0100 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 13:53:47 +0100 (GDT) From: Alex Maldonado Reply-To: Alex Maldonado Subject: Re: Help: Pine and AIX 3.2.4 To: Wes Spears Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <1994Aug10.134721.825@weston.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII We do. We just got the binaries from mail/unix-bin at ftp.cac.washington.edu and they it seems to be working just fine. - Alex M. On Wed, 10 Aug 1994, Wes Spears wrote: > Does anyone have this working? > > Thanks > Wes > -- > Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) > The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) > 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 11 12:08:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17228; Thu, 11 Aug 94 12:08:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08936; Thu, 11 Aug 94 12:03:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08930; Thu, 11 Aug 94 12:03:42 -0700 Received: from genesis.tdhca.texas.gov by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08569; Thu, 11 Aug 94 12:03:40 -0700 Received: by genesis.tdhca.texas.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA20892; Thu, 11 Aug 1994 14:02:59 +0100 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 14:02:59 +0100 (GDT) From: Alex Maldonado Reply-To: Alex Maldonado Subject: Re: Help: Pine and AIX 3.2.4 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <9408111253.AA20805@genesis.tdhca.texas.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII We do. We just got the binaries from mail/unix-bin at ftp.cac.washington.edu and they it seems to be working just fine. Although we're running on AIX 3.2 and not 3.2.4. - Alex M. On Wed, 10 Aug 1994, Wes Spears wrote: > Does anyone have this working? > > Thanks > Wes > -- > Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) > The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) > 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 11 13:05:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19263; Thu, 11 Aug 94 13:05:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09892; Thu, 11 Aug 94 12:59:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09886; Thu, 11 Aug 94 12:59:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYflG-00000hC; Thu, 11 Aug 94 12:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: julie@soest.hawaii.edu (Julie Jirikowic,HIG366,67108,) Subject: Re: Pine and interrupted mail readings Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 18:36:28 GMT In article 0100000@scorpio.gold.ac.uk, guy@gold.ac.uk (Guy Boanas) writes: >--------------> >I had a 'peculiarity' with Eudora (for Macintosh) and PINE this morning. > >I have been away on holiday and wanted to use PINE to quickly delete all >'bounces' from MAIL LISTs that I own. When my machine started up, Eudora >was launched as a 'startup' application and began to transfer my unread >MAIL from our main Unix server (around 1300 messages!). I aborted this >transfer with period and 'Quit' Eudora. I then left things for a >meeting (two hours) and on returning launched Telnet on the Mac to begn a >Unix session, then ran PINE. > The Pop program moves all of the current mail to a file called something like: .julie.pop So when you run Eudora, all of your mail is put into this file. The file isn't emptied until all messages are read. >PINE only showed 12 messages in my IN box. These must have come after you aborted Eudora. New mail goes into the regular mail box, and isn't copied until you read it with Eudora. >When I reloaded Eudora it still showed around 1300 messages to be transferred. Once again, the 12 messages were appended to your .pop mail file and removed from your regular mail box. > >I then went back to PINE and it showed ZERO messages in my IN box. ditto > >Is there some flag that Eudora sets in the mailer on Unix that PINE is >interpreting to indicate that all MAIL has been read and deleted up to that >point? --- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Julie Jirikowic School of Ocean and Earth Science and Technology University of Hawaii julie@kela.soest.hawaii.edu Acid rain killed the forests. They appointed a committee to discuss it. The ozone layer was disappearing. They said it was a minor problem to be dealt with in time. They confused the power of words over people with the power of words over matter--which is nonexistent. -Marge Piercy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 11 16:34:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26878; Thu, 11 Aug 94 16:34:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26233; Thu, 11 Aug 94 16:26:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26227; Thu, 11 Aug 94 16:26:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYjEX-00000ZC; Thu, 11 Aug 94 16:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: neal@delphi.glendon.yorku.ca (Neal Stephenson) Subject: pc-pine for the vax? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 22:51:18 GMT HI, I am looking for a version of pc-pine for novell that will work with a vax running the PMDF IMAP Daemon. It seems that the version 3.89 from ftp.cac.washington.edu is not compatible. When adding files to a folder it isssues an APPEND command and not a COPY command like the VAX IMAP wants. Any ideas? Neal. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Neal Stephenson: neal@delphi.glendon.yorku.ca (home machine) "he's not as smart as he thinks is, but that's not saying much" - me about me - delphi is 486/33 running linux v1.1.23 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 11 21:25:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04996; Thu, 11 Aug 94 21:25:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19145; Thu, 11 Aug 94 21:19:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19139; Thu, 11 Aug 94 21:19:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYni8-00001RC; Thu, 11 Aug 94 20:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bweaver@worf.infonet.net (David Morris) Subject: Using PICO editor Date: 12 Aug 1994 03:27:52 GMT Message-Id: <32eq7o$p4p@worf.infonet.net> Since PICO is the editor part of pine, I thought I would ask here. We have PICO 2.3 on OS/F1 and find the ^^ key combination to mark text does not work. I see the help message from time to time saying Ctrl-^ would work to mark text. The only thing I get is a message that this is an unknown key. -- +-+ David Morris bweaver@worf.infonet.net Green Mountain, Iowa +---------+ | Language cannot do everything-- chalk it on the walls | | where the dead poets/ lie in their mausoleums. - A. Rich | +----------------Disclaimer: My dog only barks when I call.----------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 06:03:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15905; Fri, 12 Aug 94 06:03:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25640; Fri, 12 Aug 94 05:50:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uu3.psi.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25634; Fri, 12 Aug 94 05:50:36 -0700 Received: from naz.edu by uu3.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA19011 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 94 08:38:02 -0400 Received: from hydra.naz.edu.naz.edu by naz.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-DNI) id AA20415; Thu, 11 Aug 94 21:59:35 EDT Received: by hydra.naz.edu.naz.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA25985; Thu, 11 Aug 1994 22:12:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 22:10:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael A. Naud" Subject: ansiprint To: Pine Discussion Group Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anyone know where I can ftp the ansiprint program? I thought I had it written down somewhere, but I was wrong. thx Michael A. Naud, Dept of Academic Computing ---- Michael A. Naud (716) 586-2525 VOICE Nazareth College of Rochester (716) 586-2452 FACSIMILE 4245 East Avenue manaud@naz.edu E-MAIL Rochester, NY 14618-3980 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 07:49:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17859; Fri, 12 Aug 94 07:49:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27141; Fri, 12 Aug 94 07:42:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27135; Fri, 12 Aug 94 07:42:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYxZV-00000IC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 07:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pas@keokuk.unh.edu (Paul A Sand) Subject: Re: Reply to: header in Pine? Date: 12 Aug 1994 14:19:16 GMT Message-Id: <32g0d4$kq3@mozz.unh.edu> References: <31ui76$lec@u.cc.utah.edu> mc5305@u.cc.utah.edu (Michael A. Chang) writes: > I was wondering how I can configure Pine to send out a Reply to: field in >addition to the From: field... I'm running a Linux machine and SLIP/PPP. >I would like to send mail from my home computer with the from: field >intact, while adding a Reply to: field so that I can get a reply at >another e-mail account..... I've checked the tech-docs and tried tweeking >the .pinerc file myself... but I still havn't figured out how to do it... >if someone can help, please e-mail me... thanks! I am also in need of a simple way to do this. If readers responded to Mr. Chang via e-mail, I wonder if they could also e-mail me or (BETTER) post a response. -- -- Paul A. Sand | I'm used to working with marginal -- University of New Hampshire | operating systems, though, as I am -- pas@kepler.unh.edu | an ex-ULTRIX user. | (Marcus J. Ranum, comp.sys.dec) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 08:45:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20019; Fri, 12 Aug 94 08:45:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09125; Fri, 12 Aug 94 08:38:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09119; Fri, 12 Aug 94 08:38:31 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08162; Fri, 12 Aug 94 08:38:30 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15545; Fri, 12 Aug 94 05:39:17 -0700 Received: from holmes.usbm.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25528; Fri, 12 Aug 94 05:39:15 -0700 Received: from miner.usbm.gov.noname by Holmes.usbm.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08023; Fri, 12 Aug 94 08:39:13 EDT Received: by miner.usbm.gov.noname (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15352; Fri, 12 Aug 94 08:39:12 EDT Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 08:39:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Miller Subject: PINE for Interactive To: pine@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 08:38:26 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Hi guys, Admirable work on PINE. We use it of 15 nodes (HPs and RS/6000s) here at the Bureau. Thus my problem.... We have 6 Interactive Unix nodes. Interactive does not come with a compiler. Called them up and tried buying one, (Liant-C) but it doesn't work (they told me to send it back). Tried to find the the gcc stuff but it appears to be missing the link editor (ln). Would GREATLY appreciate if you could provide-for-me/point-me-in-the-right-directiion of either a complete public domain C compiler for Interactive version 3, or already compiled versions of PINE, PICO, TIN, and GOPHER. It's worth a lunch (Pizza Hut certificate ok?). (Sent a note to Andy Brager, but don't know if he's still around.) Thanks, Bj Miller Sys. Analyst U.S. Bureau of Mines Pittsburgh, PA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 10:04:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23723; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:04:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29836; Fri, 12 Aug 94 09:55:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29824; Fri, 12 Aug 94 09:55:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYzaT-00000IC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 09:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chale@teleport.com (Chris Hale) Subject: What is the number on the message-id line? Date: 12 Aug 1994 01:53:22 -0700 Message-Id: <32fda2$b57@kelly.teleport.com> You can only see this line if you look at the full header. Message-ID: I can guess at the first part (pine ver 3.89) and the last part (I'm mailing from kelly.teleport.com) But what is the big long number in between? It changes each time I mail something. But there doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason to what influences the number. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 10:17:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24300; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:17:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11100; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:10:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11094; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:10:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYzoU-00000bC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 09:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: pc-pine for the vax? Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 08:53:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Are you running an old version of PMDF? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 11 Aug 1994, Neal Stephenson wrote: > HI, > I am looking for a version of pc-pine for novell that will > work with a vax running the PMDF IMAP Daemon. It seems that the > version 3.89 from ftp.cac.washington.edu is not compatible. When > adding files to a folder it isssues an APPEND command and not a COPY > command like the VAX IMAP wants. > Any ideas? > Neal. > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Neal Stephenson: neal@delphi.glendon.yorku.ca (home machine) > "he's not as smart as he thinks is, but that's not saying much" - me about me > - delphi is 486/33 running linux v1.1.23 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 10:18:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24377; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:18:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00232; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:10:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00226; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:10:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYzok-00000cC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 09:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: ansiprint Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 08:58:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: ansiprt is in the contrib/utils directory of the Pine source distribution... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 12 Aug 1994, Michael A. Naud wrote: > > Anyone know where I can ftp the ansiprint program? I thought I had it > written down somewhere, but I was wrong. > > thx > > Michael A. Naud, Dept of Academic Computing > > ---- > Michael A. Naud > (716) 586-2525 VOICE Nazareth College of Rochester > (716) 586-2452 FACSIMILE 4245 East Avenue > manaud@naz.edu E-MAIL Rochester, NY 14618-3980 USA > > > > > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 10:43:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25657; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:43:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00688; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:34:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from vorlon.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00680; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:34:11 -0700 Received: (from hayden@localhost) by vorlon.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA14071; Fri, 12 Aug 1994 12:43:56 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 12:43:56 +0100 From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Re: What is the number on the message-id line? To: Chris Hale Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <32fda2$b57@kelly.teleport.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Aug 1994, Chris Hale wrote: > You can only see this line if you look at the full header. > > Message-ID: ^^^^^^^^^^ | Date and time? (August 12, 1994 at 1:55am) As for A11281, I assume that is the sendmail ID# that was assigned, but I am not sure what the algorithm is for producing that. ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@vorlon.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or anyone else, dammit -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 2.1) GJ/CM d- H-- s-:++>s-:+ g+ p? au+ a- w++ v* C++(++++) UL++++$ P+>++ L++$ 3- E---- N+++ K+++ W M+ V-- -po+(---)>$ Y++ t+ 5+++ j R+++$ G- tv+ b+ D+ B--- e+>++(*) u** h* f r-->+++ !n y++** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 10:50:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25825; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:50:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11783; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:43:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from hibbert.meiko.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11777; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:43:32 -0700 Received: by hibbert.meiko.com id AA06584 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Fri, 12 Aug 1994 13:43:01 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 13:43:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Stok Subject: Re: What is the number on the message-id line? To: Chris Hale Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <32fda2$b57@kelly.teleport.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Aug 1994, Chris Hale wrote: > You can only see this line if you look at the full header. > > Message-ID: ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ 1994--------------+ | | | | August--------------+ | | | 12th------------------+ | | 01:55 (UTC time?)-------+ | Unique number (process ID?)--+ > > I can guess at the first part (pine ver 3.89) and the last part (I'm > mailing from kelly.teleport.com) But what is the big long number in between? > > It changes each time I mail something. But there doesn't seem to be a > rhyme or reason to what influences the number. I would guess... Mike -- The "usual disclaimers" apply. | Meiko Mike Stok | 130C Baker Ave. Ext Mike.Stok@meiko.concord.ma.us | Concord, MA 01742 Meiko tel: (508) 371 0088 x124 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 11:08:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26493; Fri, 12 Aug 94 11:08:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12024; Fri, 12 Aug 94 11:00:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from wolfe.wimsey.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12018; Fri, 12 Aug 94 11:00:32 -0700 Received: by wolfe.wimsey.com (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0qZ0u2-0000izC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 11:00 PDT Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.00/200.1.1.4) id AA19744; Fri, 12 Aug 1994 10:35:03 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 10:35:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: Re: What is the number on the message-id line? To: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: <32fda2$b57@kelly.teleport.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Aug 1994, Chris Hale wrote: > You can only see this line if you look at the full header. > > Message-ID: > > I can guess at the first part (pine ver 3.89) and the last part (I'm > mailing from kelly.teleport.com) But what is the big long number in between? > > It changes each time I mail something. But there doesn't seem to be a > rhyme or reason to what influences the number. It looks like you wrote that letter at 1:55 on the 12th of the 08 month in 1994...i.e. the number is a serial number that uniquely identifies every message that travels in the NET B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl3.wimsey.com | |System Administration, hampson@wimsey.com | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | | | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 12:03:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28710; Fri, 12 Aug 94 12:03:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02166; Fri, 12 Aug 94 11:50:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02160; Fri, 12 Aug 94 11:50:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZ1HQ-00000IC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 11:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: What is the number on the message-id line? Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 11:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <32fda2$b57@kelly.teleport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32fda2$b57@kelly.teleport.com> The primary purpose of the Message-ID is to be unique. Pine does supply a bit of information there, but opther mailers don't. Basically, the first number is the date and time, but I don't recall where the second one comes from offhand... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 12 Aug 1994, Chris Hale wrote: > You can only see this line if you look at the full header. > > Message-ID: > > I can guess at the first part (pine ver 3.89) and the last part (I'm > mailing from kelly.teleport.com) But what is the big long number in between? > > It changes each time I mail something. But there doesn't seem to be a > rhyme or reason to what influences the number. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 12:22:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29428; Fri, 12 Aug 94 12:22:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02571; Fri, 12 Aug 94 12:07:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02565; Fri, 12 Aug 94 12:07:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZ1W8-00000ZC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 11:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: ctrl-J in version 3.8.7 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 11:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Could you explain the symptoms? Does it not work at all or is there an error message? Does ^J work outside the headers? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 10 Aug 1994 julie@soest.hawaii.edu wrote: > We are running PINE version 3.8.7 on our Suns, both SunOS4.1.x and Solaris2.x. > I have discovered that the ctrl-J method of attaching a file doesn't work. > I'm not sure when it stopped (I'm not a PINE user myself but support several), > with the upgrade or before (or after) but it doesn't work with either OS. > Specifying the attachment in the header is fine. Any ideas? > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Julie Jirikowic School of Ocean and Earth Science and Technology > University of Hawaii julie@kela.soest.hawaii.edu > > Acid rain killed the forests. They appointed a committee to discuss it. > The ozone layer was disappearing. They said it was a minor problem to be > dealt with in time. They confused the power of words over people with the > power of words over matter--which is nonexistent. -Marge Piercy > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 12:23:11 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29522; Fri, 12 Aug 94 12:23:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13336; Fri, 12 Aug 94 12:07:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13329; Fri, 12 Aug 94 12:07:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZ1W7-00000QC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 11:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine config files ??? Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 11:18:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <328srv$p3l@herald.indirect.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <328srv$p3l@herald.indirect.com> Pine should run without any config files beyond the .pinerc file which it creates the first time you run it. As an experiment you might try setting smtp-server in your .pinerc file. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 9 Aug 1994, Data Cal Corp. wrote: > I have just installed pine and I have found out that it will read > messages but not deliver them. What it is doing is that a message is > being sent to no-mans land. What files are needed to get the system > running. I ftp'd the pine 3.89 from soils.agron.iastate.edu that is > supposed to work with MMDF, well I missed fsome config files and I have > no idea at to what they are. The file only was th bin and not the rest. > > I need help. > > Thanks > David Allred > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 13:25:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02563; Fri, 12 Aug 94 13:25:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03982; Fri, 12 Aug 94 13:13:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03976; Fri, 12 Aug 94 13:13:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZ2di-00000IC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 12:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andy.Behrens@coat.com Subject: Advance documentation for Pine 3.90? Date: 12 Aug 1994 19:09:45 GMT Message-Id: <32ghdp$bh5@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Our Documentation & Training department has asked me if it would be possible to get an advance copy of the release notes (or any other documentation) for Pine 3.90. They'd like to get a head-start on editing our manuals. Andy -- Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. (Anne Herbert) Andy Behrens Burlington Coat Factory, Schoolhouse Rd., Etna, N.H. 03750 (603) 643-2800 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 13:42:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03466; Fri, 12 Aug 94 13:42:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04472; Fri, 12 Aug 94 13:34:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ux1.cso.uiuc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04466; Fri, 12 Aug 94 13:33:58 -0700 Received: from [128.174.33.5] (opus.cso.uiuc.edu) by ux1.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02630 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 12 Aug 1994 15:33:41 -0500 X-Sender: kerr@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 15:33:56 -0500 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: (Stan Kerr) Subject: Pine and disk quotas A few days ago I posted the note below to comp.mail.pine; when I heard of the pine mailing list I decided to subscribe and try the question here as well. Many of our people now use pine, but are constrained by quotas on system mailbox space. In one case I saw this week, a person with a lot of mail was over quota and tried to use pine to delete a bunch of messages, so as to get under quota. She did everything correctly to delete the messages, and pine politely asked for confirmation when she exited. However, the messages were not deleted. I tried it myself and it did the same thing. Finally I resorted to good old Berkeley 'mail', which had no trouble at all removing messages. Our systems folks are overworked and not excited about poring over pine's code to see how this problem might be addressed, so they're basically ignoring it (as far as I can tell). If someone has solved it, and can pass along the solution, we would be grateful. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Stan Kerr University of Illinois Fax:217-244-7089 Phone:217-333-5217 Computing & Communications Services Gayly Onward 1304 W. Springfield Urbana IL 61801 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 14:11:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04621; Fri, 12 Aug 94 14:11:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04998; Fri, 12 Aug 94 14:03:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from faxon.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04982; Fri, 12 Aug 94 14:02:24 -0700 Received: by faxon.ca (5.4R2.01/192.139.186.253) id AA16722; Fri, 12 Aug 1994 16:59:23 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 16:56:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Dion Vansevenant Subject: Pine & Procmail To: Pine Messages Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to use Procmail to filter my messages in Pine, but am having problems setting it up. If there is anyone who does this, could you please lend me a hand? The main problem is that I can't read the man pages because they are [nt]roff'ed and it appears DG/UX does not include anything to let you read the format. TIA Dion *----------------------------------------------* | Dion Vansevenant stu2@faxon.ca | | | | Faxon/SMS Canada Ltd. (519) 472-1006 voice | | London, ON Canada (519) 472-1072 fax | *----------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 14:33:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05297; Fri, 12 Aug 94 14:33:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05388; Fri, 12 Aug 94 14:25:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05382; Fri, 12 Aug 94 14:25:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZ3lk-00000QC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 14:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: qralston+@pitt.edu (James Ralston Crawford) Subject: PINE seg faults when run in an xterm? Date: 12 Aug 1994 20:59:17 GMT Message-Id: <32gnr5$qfa@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> A while back, I saw various reports of pine catching a SIGSEGV while trying to exit if being run in an xterm. One posted solution was to not run pine in an xterm directly, but to instead run a script something like this: #! /bin/sh pine ${1+"$@"} RETSTAT=$? sleep 1 exit $RETSTAT My question is: was the definitive cause of the SIGSEGV ever found? Pine is not the only program that has (had?) the mysterious xterm SIGSEGV problem, so I'm very interested in determining whether or not the source of the problem was ever found. Please reply via email. I will summarize if necessary. -- James Ralston Crawford \ qralston+@pitt.edu \ Systems and Networks [CIS] University of Pittsburgh \ 600 Epsilon Drive \ Pittsburgh PA 15238-2887 "Computer, you and I need to have a little talk." - O'Brien, ST:DS9 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 17:52:25 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13082; Fri, 12 Aug 94 17:52:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19871; Fri, 12 Aug 94 17:44:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from leeman.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19865; Fri, 12 Aug 94 17:44:32 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by leeman.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <07403-0@leeman.york.ac.uk>; Fri, 12 Aug 1994 19:14:49 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for @leeman.york.ac.uk:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA15116; Fri, 12 Aug 94 18:37:15 +0100 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 18:37:15 +0000 From: Mike Brudenell To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: What is the number on the message-id line? In-Reply-To: <32fda2$b57@kelly.teleport.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Message-ID: ^^^^^^^^^ This looks like the date and time: 12-Aug-94 01:55 Don't know about the "A11281" -- Have you rummaged in the source code? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Brudenell E-mail: pmb1@unix.york.ac.uk The Computing Service Phone: (+44) 904 433811 University of York FAX: (+44) 904 432767 Heslington York YO1 5DD U.K. On 12 Aug 1994, Chris Hale wrote: > You can only see this line if you look at the full header. > > Message-ID: > > I can guess at the first part (pine ver 3.89) and the last part (I'm > mailing from kelly.teleport.com) But what is the big long number in between? > > It changes each time I mail something. But there doesn't seem to be a > rhyme or reason to what influences the number. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 21:11:35 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16540; Fri, 12 Aug 94 21:11:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22147; Fri, 12 Aug 94 20:59:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22141; Fri, 12 Aug 94 20:59:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZ9y7-00000IC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 20:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Using PICO editor Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 20:32:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <32eq7o$p4p@worf.infonet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32eq7o$p4p@worf.infonet.net> Have you tried the "ESC ESC ^" work-around? If that doesn't work, send details of your configuration, exact messages, etc, to pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 12 Aug 1994, David Morris wrote: > Since PICO is the editor part of pine, I thought I would ask here. > > We have PICO 2.3 on OS/F1 and find the ^^ key combination to mark text > does not work. I see the help message from time to time saying Ctrl-^ > would work to mark text. > > The only thing I get is a message that this is an unknown key. > > -- > +-+ David Morris bweaver@worf.infonet.net Green Mountain, Iowa +---------+ > | Language cannot do everything-- chalk it on the walls | > | where the dead poets/ lie in their mausoleums. - A. Rich | > +----------------Disclaimer: My dog only barks when I call.----------------+ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 21:11:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16565; Fri, 12 Aug 94 21:11:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11330; Fri, 12 Aug 94 20:59:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11324; Fri, 12 Aug 94 20:59:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZ9yD-00000QC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 20:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Advance documentation for Pine 3.90? Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 20:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <32ghdp$bh5@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32ghdp$bh5@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Didn't you ever hear that the documentation is the last thing to get done? ;) Seriously, we are working furiously to finish the docs for 3.90, but if you have a deadline that can't wait a week for the release, drop us a note at pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu and we'll see if we can work something out... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 12 Aug 1994 Andy.Behrens@coat.com wrote: > Our Documentation & Training department has asked me if it would be > possible to get an advance copy of the release notes (or any other > documentation) for Pine 3.90. They'd like to get a head-start on > editing our manuals. > > Andy > > -- > Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. (Anne Herbert) > > Andy Behrens > Burlington Coat Factory, Schoolhouse Rd., Etna, N.H. 03750 (603) 643-2800 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 21:21:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16764; Fri, 12 Aug 94 21:21:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22277; Fri, 12 Aug 94 21:09:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22268; Fri, 12 Aug 94 21:09:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZA7n-00000VC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 20:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine and disk quotas Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 20:46:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Actually, there is a bi-directional gateway between pine-info and comp.mail.pine, so you don't need to post both places... Due to the way Pine is implemented and the structure of the Berkeley (default) mailbox format, the act of reading a message for the first time increases its size by a few bytes for status information. It would be possible for Pine/c-client to decrease the impact, but it would entail a performance penalty that we do not feel is justified. Pine does support alternate formats, e.g. Tenex, that do not have those problems, but unfortunately other tools like mail and elm do not support them. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 12 Aug 1994 stankerr@uiuc.edu wrote: > A few days ago I posted the note below to comp.mail.pine; when I heard of > the pine mailing list I decided to subscribe and try the question here as > well. > > > Many of our people now use pine, but are constrained by quotas on system > mailbox space. In one case I saw this week, a person with a lot of mail > was over quota and tried to use pine to delete a bunch of messages, so as > to get under quota. She did everything correctly to delete the messages, > and pine politely asked for confirmation when she exited. However, the > messages were not deleted. I tried it myself and it did the same thing. > Finally I resorted to good old Berkeley 'mail', which had no trouble at > all removing messages. > > Our systems folks are overworked and not excited about poring over pine's > code to see how this problem might be addressed, so they're basically > ignoring it (as far as I can tell). If someone has solved it, and can pass > along the solution, we would be grateful. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Stan Kerr University of Illinois > Fax:217-244-7089 Phone:217-333-5217 Computing & Communications Services > Gayly Onward 1304 W. Springfield Urbana IL 61801 > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 23:36:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18945; Fri, 12 Aug 94 23:36:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13046; Fri, 12 Aug 94 23:27:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13040; Fri, 12 Aug 94 23:27:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZCAl-00000IC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 23:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ribarbe@garlic.com (Richard Barber) Subject: Re: Using PICO editor Date: 12 Aug 1994 22:36:31 -0700 Message-Id: <32hm4v$dim@garlic.com> References: <32eq7o$p4p@worf.infonet.net> David Morris (bweaver@worf.infonet.net) wrote: : Since PICO is the editor part of pine, I thought I would ask here. : We have PICO 2.3 on OS/F1 and find the ^^ key combination to mark text : does not work. I see the help message from time to time saying Ctrl-^ : would work to mark text. : The only thing I get is a message that this is an unknown key. Did you try ^6 -- --- Geek v2.1: GAT d--- H->+ s+ g+6 au0 !a w+++(---) v(---)>* C++++ US+++(++++) !P 3+ L+ E---- N++ K+>+++++ W--- M+$ V- po--- Y++(+) t j--IRC G++ b+++ B- e* u---* h!>++@ f* r++ n+ y-**$ Finger for thee PGP publik kee. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 13 00:34:29 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19972; Sat, 13 Aug 94 00:34:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24641; Sat, 13 Aug 94 00:27:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24635; Sat, 13 Aug 94 00:27:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZDAN-00000LC; Sat, 13 Aug 94 00:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: billwill@netcom.com (William Smithers) Subject: Re: Mailing Lists On Pine? Message-Id: References: <1994Aug8.214344.1@jaguar.uofs.edu> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 06:46:24 GMT In article <1994Aug8.214344.1@jaguar.uofs.edu>, wrote: > Can Pine be used for a mailing list? If so how? > =========================================================================== In Pine's Address Book, the command "S" will enable you to create a mailing ("distribution") list. Give the list a long name, e.g., Alcohol Beverage Control; then a short name, e.g., abc. The command "Z" enables you to add an address to the list. When sending a message to the group, enter in the header; "Bcc:" will appear. After "Bcc:" simply enter "abc". Your entire mailing list will appear. When the message is sent, no recipient will know who else has received it. -- Bill Smithers ========================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 13 02:51:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22951; Sat, 13 Aug 94 02:51:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15419; Sat, 13 Aug 94 02:45:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15410; Sat, 13 Aug 94 02:44:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZFIe-00000VC; Sat, 13 Aug 94 02:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ajs@dircon.co.uk (Ali Jaber Al-Sabah) Subject: PC-Pine need help in installing Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 05:21:25 +1000 Message-Id: Need help in installing PC-Pine DOS version. I have completed installation as directed in the install.txt file. But when I start pine from the dos prompt I get the following message " PC/TCP resident module is not loaded, aborting program ... " My slip conectivity is working fine. Can anybody help? thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 13 10:52:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05346; Sat, 13 Aug 94 10:52:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21779; Sat, 13 Aug 94 10:38:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from steadfast.teradyne.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21773; Sat, 13 Aug 94 10:38:14 -0700 Received: from laforge.ttd.teradyne.com by steadfast.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/jxh940509) id AA10382; Sat, 13 Aug 94 13:36:47 EDT Received: from columbus.ttd.teradyne.com by laforge.ttd.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/TER-1.35/laforge-1.1) id AA22912; Sat, 13 Aug 94 12:36:07 CDT Received: by columbus.ttd.teradyne.com (16.6/15.6) id AA00522; Sat, 13 Aug 94 12:36:42 -0500 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 12:36:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Kenny Wickstrom Subject: Re: Advance documentation for Pine 3.90? To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 12 Aug 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > Didn't you ever hear that the documentation is the last thing to get > done? ;) > > Seriously, we are working furiously to finish the docs for 3.90, but if you > have a deadline that can't wait a week for the release, drop us a note at ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Does this mean the release of 3.90 is within a week or so instead of a few weeks? :-) Just curious? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- |/ | | |\enny |/\|ickstrom (wickstro@ttd.teradyne.com) ======== // ___ \\___ ==\\ || \\__ ___ 1405 Lake Cook Rd. // // \\ ||---\ _|| _|| \\ // ||--\\ // \\ Deerfield, IL 60015 // ===== || // || // || \\// || || ===== (708)940-9000 // \\___ || \\_/\_ \\_/\_ // || || \\___ (708)940-0344(FAX) Telecommunications Division // _// From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 13 12:01:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08063; Sat, 13 Aug 94 12:01:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23040; Sat, 13 Aug 94 11:49:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23034; Sat, 13 Aug 94 11:49:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZNpP-00000VC; Sat, 13 Aug 94 11:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ez017400@dale.ucdavis.edu (Hemang Patel) Subject: Return receipt requested? Message-Id: Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 18:15:21 GMT A professor recently posed an interesting question to me. He receives e-mail regularly from the National Academy of Sciences and when he finishes reading the message and deletes it, he is asked to send a return receipt. This process happens automatically. Pine also know the return address of the person who is supposed to recieve the return receipt. all he has to do is answer yes. Does anyone know how this happens? Also, how would one set up such a system so he can do the same for e-mail he sends. TIA. -- _______________________________________ hcpatel@dale.ucdavis.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 13 14:36:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14211; Sat, 13 Aug 94 14:36:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06946; Sat, 13 Aug 94 14:29:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from jade.saintmarys.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06940; Sat, 13 Aug 94 14:29:31 -0700 Received: by jade.saintmarys.edu (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA249653561; Sat, 13 Aug 1994 16:32:42 -0500 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 16:32:41 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Mandell Subject: Maximum number of entries in Address List To: "pine-info@cac.washington.edu" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone know what the max. number of addresses for an address book list? -- ===================================== Dan Mandell, Computer Services, Saint Mary's College Internet: dmandell@saintmarys.edu "Others promise you the World. We deliver!": New York Times From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 13 15:47:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17557; Sat, 13 Aug 94 15:47:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08329; Sat, 13 Aug 94 15:40:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08323; Sat, 13 Aug 94 15:40:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZRRZ-00000VC; Sat, 13 Aug 94 15:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dgatehou@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca (David E. Gatehouse) Subject: Re: Maximum number of entries in Address List Date: 13 Aug 1994 22:14:03 GMT Message-Id: <32jgjb$1gm@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> References: Dan Mandell (dmandell@saintmarys.edu) wrote: : Does anyone know what the max. number of addresses for an address book list? As far as I can gather the max is 40! Try it and see. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Dave Gatehouse e-mail: dgatehou@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca | | Henry Gordon Academy voice: (709) 938 - 7268 | | Cartwright, Labrador fax: (709) 938 - 7530 | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 13 18:56:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22235; Sat, 13 Aug 94 18:56:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29905; Sat, 13 Aug 94 18:49:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29899; Sat, 13 Aug 94 18:49:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZUKj-00000VC; Sat, 13 Aug 94 18:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jer@crash.cts.com (Jerry Burger) Subject: Win Pine ?? Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 18:28:59 GMT Message-Id: Is there a Windows version of the Pine mail program ? Thanks jer@crash.cts.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 13 20:15:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23318; Sat, 13 Aug 94 20:15:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11722; Sat, 13 Aug 94 20:08:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11716; Sat, 13 Aug 94 20:08:26 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19276; Sat, 13 Aug 94 20:08:23 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 20:08:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Jerry Burger Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Win Pine ?? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Is there a Windows version of the Pine mail program ? Jerry, The answer is "yes and no"... In the upcoming(*) Pine 3.90 release, we intend to include an "alpha" version of "PC-Pine for Winsock". Note that this is not a full Windows GUI application. Rather, it has the same character-based User Interface as Unix and DOS Pine. Unlike PC-Pine for DOS: o You can resize the window. o There is *limited* Windows cut/paste (this will be improved soon). o There is a Windows printer interface o It uses the Winsock network interface Like PC-Pine for DOS: o Mouse can select commands, messages, and Composer cursor position o Some Unix Pine functions are not available: -integral spelling checker -alt editor -pipe command o Performance optimization hasn't been done yet (esp. for index sort) (*) now shooting for approx 94.08.22 -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 13 20:47:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23750; Sat, 13 Aug 94 20:47:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12067; Sat, 13 Aug 94 20:41:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12061; Sat, 13 Aug 94 20:41:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZW4X-00000VC; Sat, 13 Aug 94 20:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: billy@svpal.org (Bill Yeakel) Subject: Documentation for PINE available? Date: 13 Aug 1994 19:01:43 -0700 Message-Id: <32jtu7$hgu@svpal.svpal.org> I am a newcomer to the volunteer tech support for a public access provider and we seem to have no written or online documentation available on PINE except for screen capture or scrolling help files to a comm program buffer. Is there any single, complete file available? Thanks for any leads. Bill billy@svpal.org bill.yeakel@dataport.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 13 22:56:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25672; Sat, 13 Aug 94 22:56:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02580; Sat, 13 Aug 94 22:49:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02574; Sat, 13 Aug 94 22:49:30 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21772; Sat, 13 Aug 94 22:49:27 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 22:49:26 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Kenny Wickstrom Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Advance documentation for Pine 3.90? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I think we are on schedule for an August 22 release... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 13 Aug 1994, Kenny Wickstrom wrote: > On Fri, 12 Aug 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > Didn't you ever hear that the documentation is the last thing to get > > done? ;) > > > > Seriously, we are working furiously to finish the docs for 3.90, but if you > > have a deadline that can't wait a week for the release, drop us a note at > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Does this mean the release of 3.90 is within a week or so instead of a > few weeks? :-) > > Just curious? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > |/ | | > |\enny |/\|ickstrom (wickstro@ttd.teradyne.com) > ======== > // ___ \\___ ==\\ || \\__ ___ 1405 Lake Cook Rd. > // // \\ ||---\ _|| _|| \\ // ||--\\ // \\ Deerfield, IL 60015 > // ===== || // || // || \\// || || ===== (708)940-9000 > // \\___ || \\_/\_ \\_/\_ // || || \\___ (708)940-0344(FAX) > Telecommunications Division // > _// > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 13 23:51:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26499; Sat, 13 Aug 94 23:51:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13971; Sat, 13 Aug 94 23:44:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13965; Sat, 13 Aug 94 23:44:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZYwZ-00000bC; Sat, 13 Aug 94 23:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Maximum number of entries in Address List Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 23:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: There is no defined limit. Pine 3.89 and before store the entire list in memory, so there will be a practical limit though... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 13 Aug 1994, Dan Mandell wrote: > Does anyone know what the max. number of addresses for an address book list? > > -- > ===================================== > Dan Mandell, Computer Services, Saint Mary's College > Internet: dmandell@saintmarys.edu > > "Others promise you the World. We deliver!": New York Times > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 13 23:51:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26516; Sat, 13 Aug 94 23:51:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03173; Sat, 13 Aug 94 23:44:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03167; Sat, 13 Aug 94 23:44:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZYwV-00000aC; Sat, 13 Aug 94 23:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: PC-Pine need help in installing Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 23:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: What version of PC/TCP are you using? Or are you using a different TCP/IP stack? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 13 Aug 1994, Ali Jaber Al-Sabah wrote: > Need help in installing PC-Pine DOS version. > I have completed installation as directed in the install.txt file. But when I > start pine from the dos prompt I get the following message > " PC/TCP resident module is not loaded, aborting program ... " > My slip conectivity is working fine. > Can anybody help? > thanks > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 14 16:03:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13724; Sun, 14 Aug 94 16:03:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24761; Sun, 14 Aug 94 15:52:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24755; Sun, 14 Aug 94 15:52:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZo64-00000IC; Sun, 14 Aug 94 15:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aas2398@u.cc.utah.edu (A Shmomed) Subject: How Can I pull my old "sent mail file" any one plese Date: 14 Aug 1994 16:12:04 -0600 Message-Id: <32m4rk$qp2@u.cc.utah.edu> I tried to pull out my old sent files, and I could not, is there a way to do it, please let me know! thank you, Abdouladif aas2398@cc.utah.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 14 21:10:08 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18555; Sun, 14 Aug 94 21:10:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28228; Sun, 14 Aug 94 21:00:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from vorlon.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28222; Sun, 14 Aug 94 21:00:51 -0700 Received: (from hayden@localhost) by vorlon.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA00846; Sun, 14 Aug 1994 23:11:38 -0500 Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 23:11:37 +0100 From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Pine 3.90 and Linux To: Pine Info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If I understand correctly, some 3rd-party person ported Pine 3.89 to Linux when it was release. I am curious as to if 3.90 will work with Linux right out of the box or if use Linux people will have to wait for somebody to port it? ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@vorlon.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or anyone else, dammit -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 2.1) GJ/CM d- H-- s-:++>s-:+ g+ p? au+ a- w++ v* C++(++++) UL++++$ P+>++ L++$ 3- E---- N+++ K+++ W M+ V-- -po+(---)>$ Y++ t+ 5+++ j R+++$ G- tv+ b+ D+ B--- e+>++(*) u** h* f r-->+++ !n y++** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 14 21:35:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19051; Sun, 14 Aug 94 21:35:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28613; Sun, 14 Aug 94 21:27:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28607; Sun, 14 Aug 94 21:27:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZrv4-00000IC; Sun, 14 Aug 94 19:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsumler@corsair.ucs.indiana.edu (jeffery sumler) Subject: Re: Maximum number of entries in Address List Message-Id: References: <32jgjb$1gm@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 02:17:56 GMT In article <32jgjb$1gm@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>, David E. Gatehouse wrote: >Dan Mandell (dmandell@saintmarys.edu) wrote: >: Does anyone know what the max. number of addresses for an address book list? > >As far as I can gather the max is 40! Try it and see. This comment from adrbklib.h (pine 3.89) indicates that each entry in the addressbook can contain up to 1000 addresses. I tested this while writing a little program that converted VMS distribution lists to pine addressbook entries and I think I got 1010 or so before pine dumped core. from adrbklib.h: /* There are no restrictions on the length on any of the fields. This current code restricts the number of addresses in a list to 1000. */ jeff sumler jsumler@indiana.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 14 22:39:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20313; Sun, 14 Aug 94 22:39:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29393; Sun, 14 Aug 94 22:28:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29387; Sun, 14 Aug 94 22:28:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZuKI-00000cC; Sun, 14 Aug 94 22:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 and Linux Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 22:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: We don't use Linux extensively, but I have compiled and briefly tested our working sources of about the middle of last week on Linux 1.1.42... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 14 Aug 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote: > If I understand correctly, some 3rd-party person ported Pine 3.89 to > Linux when it was release. I am curious as to if 3.90 will work with > Linux right out of the box or if use Linux people will have to wait for > somebody to port it? > > ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@vorlon.mankato.msus.edu > \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- > \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the > \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or anyone else, dammit > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > (GEEK CODE 2.1) GJ/CM d- H-- s-:++>s-:+ g+ p? au+ a- w++ v* C++(++++) UL++++$ > P+>++ L++$ 3- E---- N+++ K+++ W M+ V-- -po+(---)>$ Y++ t+ 5+++ > j R+++$ G- tv+ b+ D+ B--- e+>++(*) u** h* f r-->+++ !n y++** > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 14 22:39:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20344; Sun, 14 Aug 94 22:39:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18896; Sun, 14 Aug 94 22:28:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18890; Sun, 14 Aug 94 22:28:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZuKH-00000bC; Sun, 14 Aug 94 22:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Maximum number of entries in Address List Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 22:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <32jgjb$1gm@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: We have gone to considerable effort to upgrade addressbook support in Pine 3.90 to handle huge addressbooks with reasonable performance. One of our test addressbooks has over 10,000 entries. Pine 3.89 does crash on a sendmail bug with large numbers of recipients, but that is also solved in Pine 3.90... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 15 Aug 1994, jeffery sumler wrote: > In article <32jgjb$1gm@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>, > David E. Gatehouse wrote: > >Dan Mandell (dmandell@saintmarys.edu) wrote: > >: Does anyone know what the max. number of addresses for an address book list? > > > >As far as I can gather the max is 40! Try it and see. > > This comment from adrbklib.h (pine 3.89) indicates that each entry in > the addressbook can contain up to 1000 addresses. I tested this while > writing a little program that converted VMS distribution lists to pine > addressbook entries and I think I got 1010 or so before pine dumped > core. > > from adrbklib.h: > /* There are no restrictions on the length on any of the fields. This current > code restricts the number of addresses in a list to 1000. > */ > > jeff sumler > jsumler@indiana.edu > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 01:23:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23517; Mon, 15 Aug 94 01:23:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20948; Mon, 15 Aug 94 01:14:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20942; Mon, 15 Aug 94 01:14:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZwwN-00000ZC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 00:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: anto@inn.bppt.go.id (Anto Daryanto) Subject: Header mode won't work Date: 15 Aug 1994 02:58:33 -0500 Message-Id: Hi, I am using Pine 3.89 in SunOS and HP-UX. The header (long) mode seems doesn't work. If I type either h or H I only heard beep. In Pine 3.85 it worked. Thanks in advance, A. Daryanto --- lantai 21 Gedung baru BPP Teknologi telpon +62-21-3169809 Direktorat Teknologi Elektronika dan Informatika BPP Teknologi From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 02:50:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25199; Mon, 15 Aug 94 02:50:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02725; Mon, 15 Aug 94 02:42:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02719; Mon, 15 Aug 94 02:42:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZy8W-00000VC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 02:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dlegate@s1.csuhayward.edu (Dan LeGate) Subject: "Tag" or "Mark" msgs to save in PINE? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 09:07:56 GMT In PINE (version 3.89) can I save multiple messages to a filename? When in INDEX, can I "tag" or "mark" all the files I want saved? There must be a way, but I can't figure it out. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Dan LeGate dlegate@s1.csuhayward.edu Prodigy ID: FCSJ69A From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 03:57:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26586; Mon, 15 Aug 94 03:57:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22675; Mon, 15 Aug 94 03:49:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22669; Mon, 15 Aug 94 03:49:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZzL9-00000VC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 03:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: njh@physiol.ox.ac.uk (Neil Hoggarth) Subject: Can I turn *off* news in pine? Message-Id: <1994Aug15.095413.3138@huxley.physiol.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 09:54:13 GMT The system wide pine.conf file for the Pine 3.89 installation in our department has the "news-collections" variable set so that users can read news from an NNTP server in another department using Pine. However I prefer to read new using a threaded news reader rather than Pine. Unfortunately I can't stop pine from showing me the news collection. This is particularly annoying because the NNTP server can be a bit flakey at times an I like to run Pine with the "expanded-view-of-folders" option turned on. The news can slow down the opening of the "FOLDER LIST" screen considerably. Can anyone suggest something for me to put in my pinerc file to turn off news access? I tried news-collections="" which *almost* does what I want, but causes Pine to generate an error message everytime it starts up :- Bad context, No '[' in context : "" Anybody got a better solution? I can modify the pine.conf file if need be (I'm the sysadmin :-)) but I don't want to mess up news access for Pine users who want to continue using Pine for news. Regards, -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neil Hoggarth Computer Officer, Laboratory of Physiology Oxford University, UK --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 04:08:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27303; Mon, 15 Aug 94 04:08:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03565; Mon, 15 Aug 94 04:00:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03559; Mon, 15 Aug 94 04:00:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZzUA-00000ZC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 03:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gerald.Nwana@brunel.ac.uk (Gerald Nwana) Subject: PC-Pine 3.89 for PC-NFS and DOS 6 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 10:19:21 GMT Hi all, Does anyone know if there is a problem running PC-Pine for PC-NFS on DOS 6 machines? It runs fine on DOS 5 machines but when I try to run it on a DOS 6 machine it is unable to find the host machine containing my incoming mailbox. The PINERC file is the same for both versions of DOS. Gerald ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Gerald Nwana, User Services, Computer Centre, Brunel University, | | Uxbridge, UB8 3PH, UK tel: +44 895 274000 x2568 | | | | E-mail: Gerald.Nwana@brunel.ac.uk | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 04:41:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27837; Mon, 15 Aug 94 04:41:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23435; Mon, 15 Aug 94 04:34:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23429; Mon, 15 Aug 94 04:34:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa0HY-00000VC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 04:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hph@vki68.aar-vki.dk (Hans Peter Bitsch Hansen) Subject: HOME pc pine Date: 15 Aug 1994 11:23:45 GMT Message-Id: <32nj81$478@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> Hellow pine users, We are using pine 3.89 at work, and are happy with it. We are running it on the tcpip-net internal, on a unix server, and with pc-pine on the local PC's. What I would like to ask you, is whether some of you have experience with pine on your HOME computer, and how to integrate it with the unix-server at work, via a modem, but without needing to do a login at the server. I am using uupc, and have been thinking of something like: 1) transfer /usr/spool/mail/mymail over modem to my HOME PC 2) do the mailjob (read, reply, compose) with pine 3) transfer the result back to the server via modem I would like some comments on the above items, to do the setup correct. In advance thanks, and best regards, Hans Peter ---------------------------------------------------------------- * Hans Peter Hansen | VKI-Water Quality Institute * * E-mail: hph@aar-vki.dk | Science Park Aarhus * * Phone: +45 86 20 20 00 /2124 | 10, Gustav Wiedsvej * * Fax: +45 86 19 75 11 | DK 8000 Aarhus C, Denmark * ---------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 06:11:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29560; Mon, 15 Aug 94 06:11:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05312; Mon, 15 Aug 94 06:05:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05306; Mon, 15 Aug 94 06:05:50 -0700 Received: from atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09357; Mon, 15 Aug 94 06:05:49 -0700 Received: from aphrodite.chemistry.uakron.edu by atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06370; Mon, 15 Aug 94 09:06:11 EDT Received: by aphrodite.chemistry.uakron.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15976; Mon, 15 Aug 94 09:07:57 EDT Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 09:00:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Linda Lancki Subject: Pine/PC-NFS To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I have been trying to get pc-pine to work with PC-NFS (various versions) but have not been successful. I get the following error message: Opening INBOX Host not found: atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu where, atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu is our mailhost. The PC is a 286 running PC-NFS version 3.5 using an EtherLink 3c503 ethernet card. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!! Linda Lancki ************************************************************************* * Linda Lancki | office: KNCL, Room 113 * * System Administrator | phone: (216) 972-5898 * * University of Akron | fax: (216) 972-7370 * * Department of Chemistry | e-mail: * * Knight Chemical Lab | linda@atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu * * Akron, Ohio 44325-3601 | * ************************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 07:20:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00918; Mon, 15 Aug 94 07:20:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06197; Mon, 15 Aug 94 07:14:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06191; Mon, 15 Aug 94 07:14:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa2lu-00000LC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 07:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: P.D.Bates@bradford.ac.uk (P.D.Bates) Subject: Pine and Solaris 2.2... help! Message-Id: <1994Aug15.124238.9670@bradford.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 12:42:38 GMT Hello there... I am presently trying to compile Pine (3.89 or 3.87, the version doesn't really matter to me) on a system with Solaris 2.2. as the OS. I have found pre-compiled binaries of both Pico and Pine for the system, and they work wonderfully, but Pine defaults to having 4 debug reports, whereas I want to disable the debug option altogether (by editing pine/osdep/os-sv4.h) and setting the number of reports to 0. All I want to do is change this one little thing, but when I try to compile with 'build sol' it fails every-time. It could be a C-compiler problem, I have gcc here, and the version of cc (/usr/ucb/cc) doesn't fit the bill at all it seems... I have tried compiling for the Solaris platform on another system with both cc and gcc, and still failed... Everything I try always elicits the results... '.../c-client/osdep.h:49: sys/utime.h: No such file or directory... But if it can seemingly find the other include files (such as sys/type.h)... why doesn't it find that one??? Am I doing something patently wrong? Can anyone help? Has anyone successfully compiled Pine under Solaris? Any help will be most gratefully received, although preferably by Email. Thanks! Peter Bates, University of Bradford. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 07:48:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01437; Mon, 15 Aug 94 07:48:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06593; Mon, 15 Aug 94 07:40:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06587; Mon, 15 Aug 94 07:40:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa37G-00000dC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 07:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ae6244@leibniz.math.usma.edu (MARKERT ERICH L. MR.) Subject: ANSIPRINT Source Message-Id: <438@trotter.UUCP> Date: 15 Aug 94 12:31:30 GMT Here's the source: /* These appear to be the conventional ANSI escape sequences for turning on and off an attached printer. */ static char printer_on[] = "\033[5i"; static char printer_off[] = "\033[4i"; static int dump_file (fd, name) int fd; char *name; { char buffer[8192]; char out[8192]; int n, m; for (m = 0;; m += n) { n = read (fd, buffer, sizeof (buffer)); if (n < 0) { perror (name); return n; } else if (n == 0) { return m; } else { int i, o; for (i = o = 0; i < n; ++i) { if (o > sizeof (out) - 2) { write (1, out, o); o = 0; } if ((out[o++] = buffer[i]) == '\n') out[o++] = '\r'; } if (o > 0) write (1, out, o); } } } main (argc, argv) int argc; char **argv; { int fd; /* Send printer-on escape sequence. */ write (1, printer_on, strlen (printer_on)); /* If there are no arguments, read from standard input. */ if (argc < 2) { dump_file (0, "stdin"); } else { for (--argc, ++argv; argc; --argc, ++argv) { fd = open (*argv, 0); if (fd < 0) { perror (*argv); exit (1); } if (dump_file (fd, *argv) < 0) exit (1); } } /* Write a form feed, then the printer-off escape sequence. */ /* The following line was commented out by me, ERICH MARKERT The reason for this is that the extra form feed causes a blank page to be printed on laser printers If you desire the form feed for your dotmatrix printer simply uncomment this line and recompile */ /* write (1, "\f", 1); */ write (1, printer_off, strlen (printer_off)); exit (0); } -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Mr. Erich L. Markert ae6244@euler.math.usma.edu Systems Administrator TEL (914) 938-5624 Department of Mathematical Sciences FAX (914) 938-2409 United States Military Academy West Point, NY 10996 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 07:50:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01482; Mon, 15 Aug 94 07:50:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25638; Mon, 15 Aug 94 07:40:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25626; Mon, 15 Aug 94 07:40:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa37E-00000cC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 07:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ae6244@leibniz.math.usma.edu (MARKERT ERICH L. MR.) Subject: cancel <436@trotter.UUCP> Message-Id: <437@trotter.UUCP> Date: 15 Aug 94 12:30:56 GMT References: <329ibh$ls4@worf.infonet.net> <32cjnq$svi@ousrvr.oulu.fi> <436@trotter.UUCP> Control: cancel <436@trotter.UUCP> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 08:17:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02324; Mon, 15 Aug 94 08:17:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26138; Mon, 15 Aug 94 08:10:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from steadfast.teradyne.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26132; Mon, 15 Aug 94 08:10:57 -0700 Received: from laforge.ttd.teradyne.com by steadfast.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/jxh940509) id AA15196; Mon, 15 Aug 94 11:09:25 EDT Received: from columbus.ttd.teradyne.com by laforge.ttd.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/TER-1.35/laforge-1.1) id AA23540; Mon, 15 Aug 94 10:08:46 CDT Received: by columbus.ttd.teradyne.com (16.6/15.6) id AA01479; Mon, 15 Aug 94 10:09:18 -0500 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 10:09:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Kenny Wickstrom Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 and Linux To: "Robert A. Hayden" Cc: Pine Info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 14 Aug 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote: > If I understand correctly, some 3rd-party person ported Pine 3.89 to > Linux when it was release. I am curious as to if 3.90 will work with > Linux right out of the box or if use Linux people will have to wait for > somebody to port it? > I use pine 3.89 on a linux machine at home with no special port. I have used the same source and re-built for SunOS 4.1.3, HP-UX 8.0 and linux kernel 99.14 without any problems. The linux distribution I use is debian and it came with elm. Hope this helps. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- |/ | | |\enny |/\|ickstrom (wickstro@ttd.teradyne.com) ======== // ___ \\___ ==\\ || \\__ ___ 1405 Lake Cook Rd. // // \\ ||---\ _|| _|| \\ // ||--\\ // \\ Deerfield, IL 60015 // ===== || // || // || \\// || || ===== (708)940-9000 // \\___ || \\_/\_ \\_/\_ // || || \\___ (708)940-0344(FAX) Telecommunications Division // _// From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 08:24:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02591; Mon, 15 Aug 94 08:24:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26250; Mon, 15 Aug 94 08:16:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from steadfast.teradyne.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26244; Mon, 15 Aug 94 08:15:58 -0700 Received: from laforge.ttd.teradyne.com by steadfast.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/jxh940509) id AA15236; Mon, 15 Aug 94 11:14:15 EDT Received: from columbus.ttd.teradyne.com by laforge.ttd.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/TER-1.35/laforge-1.1) id AA23543; Mon, 15 Aug 94 10:13:35 CDT Received: by columbus.ttd.teradyne.com (16.6/15.6) id AA01490; Mon, 15 Aug 94 10:14:07 -0500 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 10:14:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Kenny Wickstrom Subject: Re: Header mode won't work To: Anto Daryanto Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 15 Aug 1994, Anto Daryanto wrote: > Hi, I am using Pine 3.89 in SunOS and HP-UX. The header (long) mode seems > doesn't work. If I type either h or H I only heard beep. > In Pine 3.85 it worked. > > Thanks in advance, > I am using Pine 3.89 on SunOS 4.1.3 and HP-UX 8.0 and have no problems with headers. Do you have 'old-growth' or 'use-full-header' included in feature-list in your .pinerc file? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- |/ | | |\enny |/\|ickstrom (wickstro@ttd.teradyne.com) ======== // ___ \\___ ==\\ || \\__ ___ 1405 Lake Cook Rd. // // \\ ||---\ _|| _|| \\ // ||--\\ // \\ Deerfield, IL 60015 // ===== || // || // || \\// || || ===== (708)940-9000 // \\___ || \\_/\_ \\_/\_ // || || \\___ (708)940-0344(FAX) Telecommunications Division // _// From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 10:44:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08880; Mon, 15 Aug 94 10:44:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29302; Mon, 15 Aug 94 10:39:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29296; Mon, 15 Aug 94 10:39:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa5wn-00000cC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 10:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: "Tag" or "Mark" msgs to save in PINE? Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 10:08:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: This is not available in Pine 3.89, but will be in Pine 3.90 which is scheduled for release about next Monday. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 15 Aug 1994, Dan LeGate wrote: > In PINE (version 3.89) can I save multiple messages to a filename? When in > INDEX, can I "tag" or "mark" all the files I want saved? There must be a > way, but I can't figure it out. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Dan LeGate > dlegate@s1.csuhayward.edu > Prodigy ID: FCSJ69A > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 16:51:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23805; Mon, 15 Aug 94 16:51:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06353; Mon, 15 Aug 94 16:46:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rainbow.uta.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06345; Mon, 15 Aug 94 16:46:39 -0700 Received: by rainbow.uta.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05940; Mon, 15 Aug 94 18:49:32 CDT Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 18:49:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Abdelsalam Helal Subject: xpine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: helal@cse Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there an xpine out there yet? Regards, Sumi Helal-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:19:27 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12834; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:19:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17769; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17763; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa6FH-00000ZC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 10:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: HOME pc pine Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 10:25:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <32nj81$478@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32nj81$478@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> Unfortunately, PC-Pine does not currently run in that setup. The current PC-Pine model is to connect to the server via a SLIP or PPP connection.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 15 Aug 1994, Hans Peter Bitsch Hansen wrote: > > Hellow pine users, > > We are using pine 3.89 at work, and are happy with it. > We are running it on the tcpip-net internal, on a unix server, > and with pc-pine on the local PC's. > > What I would like to ask you, is whether some of you have experience > with pine on your HOME computer, and how to integrate it with the > unix-server at work, via a modem, but without needing to do a login > at the server. > > I am using uupc, and have been thinking of something like: > 1) transfer /usr/spool/mail/mymail over modem to my HOME PC > 2) do the mailjob (read, reply, compose) with pine > 3) transfer the result back to the server via modem > > I would like some comments on the above items, to do the setup > correct. > > In advance thanks, and best regards, Hans Peter > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > * Hans Peter Hansen | VKI-Water Quality Institute * > * E-mail: hph@aar-vki.dk | Science Park Aarhus * > * Phone: +45 86 20 20 00 /2124 | 10, Gustav Wiedsvej * > * Fax: +45 86 19 75 11 | DK 8000 Aarhus C, Denmark * > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:19:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12857; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:19:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17755; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:12:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17749; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:12:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa6BO-00000VC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 10:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: PC-Pine 3.89 for PC-NFS and DOS 6 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 10:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Do both machines have the same PC-NFS version and configuration? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 15 Aug 1994, Gerald Nwana wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anyone know if there is a problem running PC-Pine for PC-NFS on DOS 6 > machines? It runs fine on DOS 5 machines but when I try to run it on a > DOS 6 machine it is unable to find the host machine containing my incoming > mailbox. The PINERC file is the same for both versions of DOS. > > > Gerald > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > | Gerald Nwana, User Services, Computer Centre, Brunel University, | > | Uxbridge, UB8 3PH, UK tel: +44 895 274000 x2568 | > | | > | E-mail: Gerald.Nwana@brunel.ac.uk | > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:19:38 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12865; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:19:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17793; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17787; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa6Vm-00000fC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 11:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: Pine config files ??? Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 17:18:27 GMT Message-Id: References: <328srv$p3l@herald.indirect.com> David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : Pine should run without any config files beyond the .pinerc file which it : creates the first time you run it. As an experiment you might try setting : smtp-server in your .pinerc file. : > I have just installed pine and I have found out that it will read : > messages but not deliver them. What it is doing is that a message is : > being sent to no-mans land. What files are needed to get the system Well, does /bin/mail work as a mail submission agent? It looks to me (like I said in that last message) like you've got some funky permissions problems within the MMDF subsystem, or worse. I finally looked up the permission command you should run, so try typing: # /etc/fixperm -nd MAIL /etc/perms/* which will report, but not repair, all the errors of the MAIL subsystem as defined by the files in the /etc/perms directory. 'man fixperm' for more information. Let me know. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:20:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12917; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:20:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29385; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29377; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa6Nr-00000aC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 11:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: How Can I pull my old "sent mail file" any one plese Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 10:54:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <32m4rk$qp2@u.cc.utah.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32m4rk$qp2@u.cc.utah.edu> Please be more specific about what folders you are trying to access, what you tried to access them, what error messages you recieved, etc..... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 14 Aug 1994, A Shmomed wrote: > > > I tried to pull out my old sent files, and I could not, is there a > way to do it, please let me know! > thank you, > > Abdouladif > aas2398@cc.utah.edu > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:20:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12971; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:20:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17777; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17771; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa6Vh-00000MC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 11:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: Pine on SCO used wrong date Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 17:07:44 GMT Message-Id: References: <32602s$776@cyberspace.com> Steve Miller (smiller@cyberspace.net) wrote: : When I send mail using pine on SCO Rel 3.2 Ver 4.2 it sends the wrong date. : The date is always February 23, 1970. That's my port, and I'm running 3.2v4.2 here. I can't say what's up with the date. The system date is OK, right? : On another system running SCO Unix Rel 3.2 Ver 2.0 pine aborts when trying : to start it up. : Anyone experienced these problems before? Someone once mentioned that to me. Do you remember what the error was? In a sense, though, this isn't an ODT port, so some problem are possible if I inadvertantly used any non-ODT functions. Or, if you don't mean ODT, and this is really a 2.0 version, ye gods, that's old. I had this built with the latest TCP/IP and development system. Who knows what might have changed since then. : I have had pine running on a different system with SCO ODT 3.0 : (same as SCO Unix 3.2 Ver 4.2) for months and it works just fine. : The ones with the date problem are all fresh installs on new : machines. Well, I haven't seen anything here. Try writing some small programs to check the system date and time from C, and see what you get. It's always possible that Pine is just reflecting a symptom of a larger problem. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:20:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12988; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:20:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29361; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:12:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29355; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:12:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa69v-00000LC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 10:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Can I turn *off* news in pine? Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 10:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <1994Aug15.095413.3138@huxley.physiol.ox.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994Aug15.095413.3138@huxley.physiol.ox.ac.uk> Looks like you found a bug... Thanks for the report! |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 15 Aug 1994, Neil Hoggarth wrote: > The system wide pine.conf file for the Pine 3.89 installation in our > department has the "news-collections" variable set so that users can > read news from an NNTP server in another department using Pine. However > I prefer to read new using a threaded news reader rather than Pine. > Unfortunately I can't stop pine from showing me the news collection. > This is particularly annoying because the NNTP server can be a bit > flakey at times an I like to run Pine with the "expanded-view-of-folders" > option turned on. The news can slow down the opening of the "FOLDER > LIST" screen considerably. > > Can anyone suggest something for me to put in my pinerc file to turn off > news access? I tried > > news-collections="" > > which *almost* does what I want, but causes Pine to generate an error > message everytime it starts up :- > > Bad context, No '[' in context : "" > > Anybody got a better solution? I can modify the pine.conf file if need > be (I'm the sysadmin :-)) but I don't want to mess up news access for > Pine users who want to continue using Pine for news. > > Regards, > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Neil Hoggarth Computer Officer, Laboratory of Physiology > Oxford University, UK > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:20:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13032; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:20:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29395; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29389; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa6Vl-00000cC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 11:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: Pine 3.89 setup for SCO Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 17:12:27 GMT Message-Id: References: <328cc9$4b@herald.indirect.com> Data Cal Corp. (datacal@indirect.com) wrote: : I have FTPd the pine 3.89 binary for SCO UNIX from : soils.agron.iastate.edu and would like to know if this program works with : MMDF. I have installed the program and I get sporatic mail delivery on : the system. What I am doing is using UUCP to poll mail from Netcom and : then MMDF to deliver it, then for now use pine to read the mail. I plan : to get SMTP gateway running and have MMDF deliver mail there for the : people using PCs and pine for those who use terminals. But this problem : is persistant. Well, at least Pine isn't the problem. Pine doesn't touch your underlying mail system at all in its operation. What you should probably do, to ease your mind a bit, is only use /bin/mail until you've either fixed the delivery problem, or satisfied youself that Pine isn't causing the problems. : I sent a message to a friend in the office as a test message. he never : got it. He in return sent one back to me and the same. But when I send : messages to root (Superuser) it gets there. : The address lines are as follows. : Any ideas????????????? Check your permissions on all the MMDF stuff. I don't, of course, remember the correct command to issue, but you'll want to run (I think it's called) checkperms on the MMDF package to see if there's a part that should be setuid that isn't, or vice versa. If root can do something that the rest of the world can't, it's more than likely a permissions problem. But this is, at its heart, a MMDF problem. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:20:58 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13077; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:20:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29375; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29369; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa6e7-00000gC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 11:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine/PC-NFS Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 10:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I presume that other PC-NFS applications (e.g. telnet) can access atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu without problem? Checking our nameserver, it appears that atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu is a dual-homed host (has two ethernet addresses). The reason I mention this is that we have recently recieved a couple other similar reports that we have been unable to explain with PC-Pine trying to access dual-homed hosts. A second problem I noticed is that atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu does not appear to have an IMAP server running. If you are still unable to get PC-Pine running, please send details to pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu. Thanks! |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 15 Aug 1994, Linda Lancki wrote: > Hello, > > I have been trying to get pc-pine to work with PC-NFS (various versions) > but have not been successful. I get the following error message: > > > Opening INBOX > > Host not found: atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu > > > where, atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu is our mailhost. The PC is a 286 > running PC-NFS version 3.5 using an EtherLink 3c503 ethernet card. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!! > > Linda Lancki > > ************************************************************************* > * Linda Lancki | office: KNCL, Room 113 * > * System Administrator | phone: (216) 972-5898 * > * University of Akron | fax: (216) 972-7370 * > * Department of Chemistry | e-mail: * > * Knight Chemical Lab | linda@atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu * > * Akron, Ohio 44325-3601 | * > ************************************************************************* > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:21:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13085; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:21:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29403; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29397; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa9Zm-00000iC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 14:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: willetll@imd1.cbs.state.or.us (Linda Willett) Subject: PC pine and Windows Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 13:59:58 Message-Id: Hi I realize pc-pine does not support windows yet, but can't I create a pif file to run pine.exe, so that I can run pc-pine in full screen while still in the windows environment??? I am trying to do this, but when I click on the icon, it starts pc-pine and then goes back to the program window - is there a setting I am missing????? By the way, pc-pine works fine from DOS. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Linda Willett llw@imd1.cbs.state.or.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:27:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13376; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:27:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29529; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:23:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29523; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:23:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaBvG-00001ZC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 16:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrews@biology.ucla.edu (Peter Andrews) Subject: Pine and Mac w/PPP access Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 16:38:03 -0800 Message-Id: I'm new to this group and apologize if this is an old topic. I did not see a FAQ. I use PINE on my unix machine. I have recently gotten dial-up PP access and am using Eudora on my mac at home. Is there a Mac. version of pine or some program that works well with it? Eudora is working fine but now I have half my mail in my pine folders and half in Eudora. I currently have Eudora leave the mail on the server so that way I can at least have all my received mail in one place. Any mail I write from Eudora never goes to pine, though. I would like to avoid sending myself copies of all mail, if possible. Thanks in advance, Peter Andrews From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:28:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13407; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:28:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29537; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:23:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29531; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:23:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaD6v-00001bC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 18:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fehnwana@liverpool.ac.uk (Gerald Nwana) Subject: Re: Header mode won't work Message-Id: References: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 11:39:38 GMT Anto Daryanto (anto@inn.bppt.go.id) wrote: : Hi, I am using Pine 3.89 in SunOS and HP-UX. The header (long) mode seems : doesn't work. If I type either h or H I only heard beep. : In Pine 3.85 it worked. : Thanks in advance, : A. Daryanto : --- : lantai 21 Gedung baru BPP Teknologi : telpon +62-21-3169809 : Direktorat Teknologi Elektronika dan Informatika : BPP Teknologi I think you have to enable this feature in your pinerc file. Try adding it to your feature-list as follows: feature-list=enable-full-header-cmd, list of other features Gerald From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:28:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13409; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:28:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17973; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:23:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17967; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:23:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaBrb-00001YC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 16:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rgm@mail.ast.cam.ac.uk (Richard McMahon) Subject: second sub directory for mail Date: 15 Aug 1994 23:37:20 GMT Message-Id: <32ou7g$ln9@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> I am running Pine 3.90 under SuOS 4 I have placed old sent-mail and old mail in a subdirectory on another disk which has a link to my mail subdirectory. When I use Goto folders and browse down to the relevant directory I cannot enter it. Does Pine support alternative folder sub-directories? How do I access them? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:28:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13455; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:28:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17981; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:23:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17975; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:23:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaCce-00001aC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 17:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: duffy@myhost.subdomain.domain (Dennis Duffner) Subject: trouble with FROM line Message-Id: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 00:23:36 GMT It seems that PINE wants to put 'duffy@hostname.subdomain.domain' in my FROM line and I'm at a loss to figure out how to remedy that. Any ideas welcome! Dennis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:35:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13631; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:35:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18107; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:30:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18101; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:30:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaMjP-00002pC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 04:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Cornelius Subject: Re: What is the number on the message-id line? Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 12:23:05 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: References: <32fda2$b57@kelly.teleport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 12 Aug 1994, Mike Stok wrote: > On 12 Aug 1994, Chris Hale wrote: > > You can only see this line if you look at the full header. > > > > Message-ID: > ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ > 1994--------------+ | | | | > August--------------+ | | | > 12th------------------+ | | > 01:55 (UTC time?)-------+ | > Unique number (process ID?)--+ One of our more observant users noticed that the time (0155 in the above example) was not in fact the hours and minutes value from the time as he expected. It turns out that it is the hours and seconds of the time. We reported this "bug" as a very low priority curiosity to the Pine team, and I understand that it will be "fixed" in 3.90. -- Barry Cornelius Telephone: (0191 or +44 191) 374 4717 IT Service, Science Site, IT Service Office: (0191 or +44 191) 374 2892 University of Durham, Fax: (0191 or +44 191) 374 3741 Durham, DH1 3LE, UK E-mail: Barry.Cornelius@durham.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:35:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13679; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:35:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29650; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:30:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29644; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:30:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaP4y-00002rC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: altaylor@iohk.com (Alan Taylor) Subject: Mail to Fidonet Date: 16 Aug 1994 14:00:16 GMT Message-Id: <32qgpg$gf3@news.hk.net> Hi, I live in Hong Kong and regularly send mail to a friend in Australia who is on Fidonet. The trouble is, it takes a week. I use the standard addressing method ... joe.bloggs@p?.f???.n???.z?.fidonet.org Does anyone know of another way which might be faster ? I've heard it suggested to use UUCP, but I've no idea how to do this, as I thought it was for an internet target. Any ideas welcome, and I'll report results, if anyone wants to know. Regards, Alan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:36:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13836; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:36:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18099; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:30:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18093; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:30:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaLN8-00002iC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 03:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: njh@physiol.ox.ac.uk (Neil Hoggarth) Subject: Re: What is the number on the message-id line? Message-Id: <1994Aug16.090652.5493@huxley.physiol.ox.ac.uk> References: <32fda2$b57@kelly.teleport.com> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 09:06:52 GMT In article <32fda2$b57@kelly.teleport.com>, Chris Hale wrote: > You can only see this line if you look at the full header. > > Message-ID: > > I can guess at the first part (pine ver 3.89) and the last part (I'm > mailing from kelly.teleport.com) But what is the big long number in between? > > It changes each time I mail something. But there doesn't seem to be a > rhyme or reason to what influences the number. The Message-ID header is required by the Internet mail standards to provide a unique identifier for each mail message. This ID can then be quoted as a reference when generating replies etc. The Netnews system uses something similar to allow threaded readers to associate follow-ups with the articles which prompted them. The number in the middle of the string seems to be made up from the current date and time and, I would guess, the process ID of the Pine which generated the message. 94 - year 08 - month 12 - day 0155 - perhaps it was mailed at 01:55 GMT? 11281 - I would think this is a process ID. However the contents arn't really important. Regards, -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neil Hoggarth Computer Officer, Laboratory of Physiology Oxford University, UK --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:36:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13837; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:36:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29642; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:30:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29636; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:30:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaLsN-00002mC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 03:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: njh@physiol.ox.ac.uk (Neil Hoggarth) Subject: Re: Pine/PC-NFS Message-Id: <1994Aug16.102836.6961@huxley.physiol.ox.ac.uk> References: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 10:28:36 GMT In article , Linda Lancki wrote: > >I have been trying to get pc-pine to work with PC-NFS (various versions) >but have not been successful. I get the following error message: > > > Opening INBOX > > Host not found: atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu > > >where, atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu is our mailhost. The PC is a 286 >running PC-NFS version 3.5 using an EtherLink 3c503 ethernet card. Can the PC resolve the name to an IP address? Can you get IP packets back and forth between the mailhost and the PC? Try ping and telnet from the DOS command line - this should give you some clues as to where the problem lies. PC-NFS uses NIS for name resolution. Have you tried pointing Pine at "atlas" or "atlas.chemistry" rather than the full domain name? Regards, -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neil Hoggarth Computer Officer, Laboratory of Physiology Oxford University, UK --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:53:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14337; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:53:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18445; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:49:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from steadfast.teradyne.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18438; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:49:08 -0700 Received: from laforge.ttd.teradyne.com by steadfast.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/jxh940509) id AA23017; Tue, 16 Aug 94 10:47:42 EDT Received: from columbus.ttd.teradyne.com by laforge.ttd.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/TER-1.35/laforge-1.1) id AA24029; Tue, 16 Aug 94 09:47:03 CDT Received: by columbus.ttd.teradyne.com (16.6/15.6) id AA02956; Tue, 16 Aug 94 09:47:33 -0500 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 09:47:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Kenny Wickstrom Subject: Re: xpine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: hela@cse.uta.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes, there is a xpine available. It is called spruce. Below is a message from the author of spruce. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- |/ | | |\enny |/\|ickstrom (wickstro@ttd.teradyne.com) ======== // ___ \\___ ==\\ || \\__ ___ 1405 Lake Cook Rd. // // \\ ||---\ _|| _|| \\ // ||--\\ // \\ Deerfield, IL 60015 // ===== || // || // || \\// || || ===== (708)940-9000 // \\___ || \\_/\_ \\_/\_ // || || \\___ (708)940-0344(FAX) Telecommunications Division // _// ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 5 Aug 1994 15:35:09 GMT From: Leiman Ian To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Looking for Spruce... In article <31qciv$c6k@thot.u-strasbg.fr>, calimero@lcco.u-strasbg.fr (Guy BRAND) writes: |> Where can a beta of Spruce be found ? I am the author of Spruce. Unfortunately I have been so busy with my work since May that I haven't had any time to finish Spruce up to distribution quality yet. The summer has also been so nice that I've spent all my spare time outdoors. When the autumn rains begin, that's when it's good time to start writing code again. Hope that doesn't come too soon :-) I have also been waiting for PINE 3.90 release, and hoping to upgrade Spruce to same level at once. Those who are interesed and have a decent WWW client can take a look at some documentation I started in May at: http://dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com:3000/Spruce/Spruce.html Especially interesting should be the interface description with screen captures at: http://dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com:3000/Spruce/interface.html One can also download an uuencoded demo executable for HP9000/7xx. The WWW server is located in Finland (see /~leiman/Finland.html) so the network connection may s l o w from somewhere like Seattle, or even down sometimes. The source code of Spruce is at an ugly messy state and I ought to clean the source directory up before I dare to show that stuff publicly. This is an idea I have been thing for some time: ================================================ As soon as I find time, I'll start a major cleanup at Spruce source directory and put it all publicly available through HTML hypertext links. The HTML would also document the code a bit, making it reasonably easy to see the structure of the code. How does this sound? I also have to figure out how to configure my httpd (WWW server) to act as an ftp proxy, so that I could distribute source code and compiled binaries from my own host. The biggest problem here is to assure system security against hacker penetration. I have been contacted by many people who have expressed a keen interest in porting the Spruce code for various platforms. Perhaps this way also compiled binaries can be provided. Currently I have very little time to read news, so I may not read this newsgroup too often. -- Ian Leiman, M.Sc. phone +358 0 5104 4453, fax +358 0 5104 4764 ian.leiman@ntc.nokia.com mobile (GSM) 940-5020217 WWW: http://dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com:3000/~leiman/index.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 09:26:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18690; Tue, 16 Aug 94 09:26:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20623; Tue, 16 Aug 94 09:20:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20617; Tue, 16 Aug 94 09:20:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaR8Z-00000fC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 09:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hbcsc025@huey.csun.edu (louie soriano) Subject: Posting... Date: 16 Aug 1994 16:08:27 GMT Message-Id: <32qo9r$1r8@nic-nac.CSU.net> Why is it that in some newsgroups I can see what I posted??? _______ _____ ______ _____ / / | | / / | | | ___/ | _ | ( ( | _ | | / | | \ \ | | | | | /| | ) ) | /| | |___| |_/ |_| /____ / |_/ |_| "...Friendship fun, CSUN CSUN..." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 10:53:56 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22416; Tue, 16 Aug 94 10:53:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03811; Tue, 16 Aug 94 10:45:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03805; Tue, 16 Aug 94 10:45:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaSVE-00000IC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 10:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: datacal@indirect.com (Data Cal Corp.) Subject: Pine and SCO Date: 16 Aug 1994 17:13:18 GMT Message-Id: <32qs3e$16g@herald.indirect.com> I would like to get some help here, I have pine 3.89 from soils.agron.iastate.edu that is patched to work with MMDF. I can read mail but can not send mail. Pine says it was sent but no record of it was made. Is there a better way to get a good frount end that will work with MMDF and UUCP. Thanks David Allred DataCal Corporation datacal@indirect.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 11:11:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23231; Tue, 16 Aug 94 11:11:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22705; Tue, 16 Aug 94 11:04:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22697; Tue, 16 Aug 94 11:04:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaSlm-00000LC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 10:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: , in name in " " Message-Id: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 17:14:52 GMT when using replay to, if the sender has a name like: "Blow, Joe" pine will split the line after "Blow, ..." in the same way that it does it when you have mail that goes (in replay) to several receipients... I do not know if this cause a problem by itself (I correct this manually deleting the offending coma), but, sometimes (specially when quick answering to some mail with a mere yes or no), the editing could be anoying. Is that solved in 3.9... or there is something that I can do in 3.89 that I did not notice (the question for 3.89 is because I'm not overlly optimist that netcom will install 3.9 pronto...) Thaks Pucho (aka marcos)(pucho@netcom.com) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 12:10:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25421; Tue, 16 Aug 94 12:10:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05215; Tue, 16 Aug 94 12:05:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05209; Tue, 16 Aug 94 12:05:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaTj1-000012C; Tue, 16 Aug 94 11:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: , in name in " " Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 18:23:03 GMT Message-Id: References: Marcos Rubinstein (pucho@netcom.com) wrote: : when using replay to, if the sender has a name like: : "Blow, Joe" : pine will split the line after "Blow, ..." in the same way that it does it : when you have mail that goes (in replay) to several receipients... : I do not know if this cause a problem by itself (I correct this manually : deleting the offending coma), but, sometimes (specially when quick answering : to some mail with a mere yes or no), the editing could be anoying. : Is that solved in 3.9... or there is something that I can do in 3.89 that I : did not notice (the question for 3.89 is because I'm not overlly optimist : that netcom will install 3.9 pronto...) It looks to me like it's fixed in 3.90, but I'd have to wait for the final version to come out. Anyway, even though it shows the addresses incorrectly in the composer, there is no danger to send them right back out unedited. I do this all the time without problems. I don't think it could possibly be a problem unless you're sending to many addresses, and at the particular place where that address is, Pine wants to break a line. But for normal usage, no problem. That is to say, it never broke for me, but I never do anything truly weird with mail. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 13:22:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28839; Tue, 16 Aug 94 13:22:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25416; Tue, 16 Aug 94 13:18:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25410; Tue, 16 Aug 94 13:18:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaUtr-00000IC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 13:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scocca@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (D. A. Scocca) Subject: Updating the INBOX? Date: 16 Aug 1994 19:47:39 GMT Message-Id: <32r54r$tk1@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> I have a question in Unix Pine 3.89... I know it only checks my incoming mail file at intervals, and that I can force it to do so by eXpunging deleted messages or by quitting and restarting mail. On occasion, I will send a message while my inbox is empty... I have Pine set to put my outgoing messages in the inbox, however, I can't make the message I just sent appear in my inbox (so I can file it and go on to doing something else) without either waiting or quitting and restarting. Is there any kind of "update" command that will check /usr/spool/mail and add new messages immediately to the index of the inbox? Dave -- * The Minstrel in the Gallery "Heteroskedastic" * * D. A. Scocca scocca@gibbs.oit.unc.edu * * "My love does not, cannot _make_ her happy. My love can only * * release in her the capacity to be happy." --J. Barnes * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 14:43:09 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02046; Tue, 16 Aug 94 14:43:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08114; Tue, 16 Aug 94 14:33:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08102; Tue, 16 Aug 94 14:33:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaW2F-00000IC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 14:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gary@ah3.cal.msu.edu (Gary J LaPointe) Subject: Pine 3.89 on Aux 3.02 Date: 16 Aug 1994 21:01:21 GMT Message-Id: <32r9f1$sf4@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Help! Trying to compile pine3.89 (from jagubox). Attached is the result of a BUILD AUX. Pico goes fine. They are all erroring on the lack of ability to find library libiberty.a I found a note on it that gave me some vague information in the pine_diffs.notes but it was not specific enough (where do I get it in gcc and where do I put it and what does it have to do with memmove?!?). Can anybody help? Thanks, Gary Gary J LaPointe gary@ah3.cal.msu.edu http://web.cal.msu.edu/gary/gary.html >build aux make args are "CC=gcc" Making c-client library and mtest echo -O2 > CFLAGS echo -liberty > LDFLAGS gcc -O2 -o mtest mtest.o c-client.a -liberty ld *command line*: can't find library libiberty.a collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Make: *** Error: Update of `mtest' terminated with exit code 1 Make: [line 44 in /users/gary/pine/pine3.89/imap/non-ANSI/c-client/ma kefile.aux] Making Imapd cd ../c-client;make echo -O2 > CFLAGS echo -liberty > LDFLAGS gcc -O2 -o mtest mtest.o c-client.a -liberty ld *command line*: can't find library libiberty.a collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Make: *** Error: Update of `mtest' terminated with exit code 1 Make: [line 44 in /users/gary/pine/pine3.89/imap/non-ANSI/c-client/ma kefile] Make: *** Error: Update of `C-CLIENT' terminated with exit code 1 Make: [line 47 in /users/gary/pine/pine3.89/imap/non-ANSI/imapd/Makef ile] Making Pico Making Pine. echo "char datestamp[]="\"`date`\"";" > date.c gcc -c -O2 -o date.o date.c gcc -O2 -o pine addrbook.o addrutil.o adrbklib.o args.o context.o fil ter.o folder.o help.o helptext.o imap.o init.o mailcmd.o mailindx.o mailview.o newmail.o other.o pine.o print.o reply.o screen.o send.o signals.o status.o st rings.o ttyin.o ttyout.o os.o date.o ../pico/libpico.a ./c-client/c-client.a -l termcap -lc -lposix -liberty ld *command line*: can't find library libiberty.a collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Make: *** Error: Update of `pine' terminated with exit code 1 Make: [line 32 in /users/gary/pine/pine3.89/pine/makefile.aux] Links to executables are in bin directory: size: bin/pine: cannot open size: bin/mtest: cannot open size: bin/imapd: cannot open bin/pico: Size of bin/pico: 0x311de Section Size Physical Address Virtual Address .text 0x0001cb08 0x00000148 0x00000148 .data 0x00002f50 0x00400c50 0x00400c50 .bss 0x00007eaa 0x00403ba0 0x00403ba0 .lt12069 0x000073bc 0x47f00000 0x47f00000 .ld12076 0x0000244c 0x47fc0000 0x47fc0000 .lb12077 0x00000094 0x47fc244c 0x47fc244c .lib 0x00000040 0x00000000 0x00000000 Done (THIS IS ACTUALLY THE BUILD AFTER IT HAD PREVIOUSLY FAILED ONCE) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 15:27:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03825; Tue, 16 Aug 94 15:27:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28121; Tue, 16 Aug 94 15:18:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28115; Tue, 16 Aug 94 15:18:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaWnn-00000LC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 15:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Updating the INBOX? Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 14:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <32r54r$tk1@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32r54r$tk1@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> ^L will check for new mail as it repaints the screen... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 16 Aug 1994, D. A. Scocca wrote: > I have a question in Unix Pine 3.89... I know it only checks my > incoming mail file at intervals, and that I can force it to do so by > eXpunging deleted messages or by quitting and restarting mail. > > On occasion, I will send a message while my inbox is empty... I have > Pine set to put my outgoing messages in the inbox, however, I can't > make the message I just sent appear in my inbox (so I can file it and > go on to doing something else) without either waiting or quitting and > restarting. > > Is there any kind of "update" command that will check /usr/spool/mail > and add new messages immediately to the index of the inbox? > > Dave > -- > * The Minstrel in the Gallery "Heteroskedastic" * > * D. A. Scocca scocca@gibbs.oit.unc.edu * > * "My love does not, cannot _make_ her happy. My love can only * > * release in her the capacity to be happy." --J. Barnes * > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 15:38:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04399; Tue, 16 Aug 94 15:38:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09169; Tue, 16 Aug 94 15:33:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09163; Tue, 16 Aug 94 15:33:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaX2z-00000IC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 15:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: second sub directory for mail Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 14:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <32ou7g$ln9@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32ou7g$ln9@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> You can have access as many directories as you want. Just list them on the folder-collections line in your .pinerc file (comma separated list). |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 15 Aug 1994, Richard McMahon wrote: > I am running Pine 3.90 under SuOS 4 > > I have placed old sent-mail and old mail in a subdirectory on another > disk which has a link to my mail subdirectory. When I use Goto folders > and browse down to the relevant directory I cannot enter it. > > Does Pine support alternative folder sub-directories? > > How do I access them? > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 15:41:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04500; Tue, 16 Aug 94 15:41:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28414; Tue, 16 Aug 94 15:33:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28408; Tue, 16 Aug 94 15:33:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaX36-00000LC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 15:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: trouble with FROM line Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 15:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: It looks like your system has not been configured properly. Check your /etc/hosts file to make sure it is configured properly. It also looks like your news software is using similar unconfigured defaults... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 16 Aug 1994, Dennis Duffner wrote: > It seems that PINE wants to put 'duffy@hostname.subdomain.domain' in my > FROM line and I'm at a loss to figure out how to remedy that. > > Any ideas welcome! > > Dennis > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 20:16:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11990; Tue, 16 Aug 94 20:16:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13887; Tue, 16 Aug 94 20:07:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13881; Tue, 16 Aug 94 20:07:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qabJT-00000LC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 20:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: Re: When INBOX empty, do nuttin' Message-Id: References: <322vme$bbv@crl2.crl.com> <32brg9$36d@gibeah.connected.com> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 01:42:01 GMT instead of invoking pine, call the "old" mail... (in unix) mail will give you either a "no mail for ..." or a list of your mail... then press "q". is much faster than pine. Sometimes I use this before deciding if i will use pine to read the mail... Pucho (I now there are scripts to give you an alert each time that you have mail, listing from and subject, and also will give you that info at any time) Shalom ve Tzedek Pucho From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 20:53:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12523; Tue, 16 Aug 94 20:53:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03528; Tue, 16 Aug 94 20:44:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03522; Tue, 16 Aug 94 20:44:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qabtU-00000PC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 20:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: faq for procmail? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 01:44:37 GMT Does anybody knows where can I get a faq on procmail (man is obscure!) Thanks Shalom ve Tzedek Pucho (pucho@netcom.com) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 23:03:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15075; Tue, 16 Aug 94 23:03:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15994; Tue, 16 Aug 94 22:58:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15988; Tue, 16 Aug 94 22:58:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qadxk-00000LC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 22:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jloh@futon.SFSU.EDU (Jonathan Loh) Subject: Automated Filer? Date: 17 Aug 1994 05:50:12 GMT Message-Id: <32s8ek$am5@nic-nac.CSU.net> Is there a way of putting mail in seperate mailboxes? without using something like procmail? In elm this is possible, using the filter command. -- Jonathan jloh@futon.sfsu.edu **** Please quote from this message when responding --- Thanks! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 23:59:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16299; Tue, 16 Aug 94 23:59:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05956; Tue, 16 Aug 94 23:54:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05950; Tue, 16 Aug 94 23:54:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaepq-00000LC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 23:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mhotti@paju.oulu.fi (Marko Hotti) Subject: Re: Automated Filer? Date: 17 Aug 1994 06:31:53 GMT Message-Id: <32sasp$36s@ousrvr.oulu.fi> References: <32s8ek$am5@nic-nac.CSU.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jonathan Loh (jloh@futon.SFSU.EDU) wrote: : Is there a way of putting mail in seperate mailboxes? without : using something like procmail? In elm this is possible, using the : filter command. With Pine you can use the same filter command and filter-rules file in the $HOME/.elm -directory as you would use with Elm. --- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Marko Hotti Email: Marko.Hotti@oulu.fi Tervontie 4 C 11 X.400: /S=mhotti/OU=paju/O=oulu/ADMD=fumail FIN-90230 OULU /C=fi/ Tel: +358-(9)81-530 4878 Talk : mhotti@paju.oulu.fi -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 00:07:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16496; Wed, 17 Aug 94 00:07:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16782; Tue, 16 Aug 94 23:58:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16776; Tue, 16 Aug 94 23:58:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaetr-00000aC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 23:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl (S.G. de Bruijn) Subject: Re: Updating the INBOX? Message-Id: References: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 06:08:36 GMT David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : ^L will check for new mail as it repaints the screen... My solaris pine 3.88 doesn't... Steef -------------- S.G. de Bruijn E-Mail: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl Twente University of Technology, Dept. of Computer Science Enschede The Netherlands Phone: Work: +53 894191 Home: +53 334812 -----------------------==== @@ ====----------------------- signature: file not found From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 00:53:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17687; Wed, 17 Aug 94 00:53:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06679; Wed, 17 Aug 94 00:48:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06673; Wed, 17 Aug 94 00:48:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaffh-00000LC; Wed, 17 Aug 94 00:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: msimmons@dcs1.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Simmons - DCS) Subject: Always Spell Checking Signature Message-Id: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 07:31:20 GMT Hello: I have a problem when composing or editing letters in pine. My signature (from .signature) is always posted at the bottom of the editor. This is fine except that when I invoke ^T to check the spelling, it repeatedly asks for corrections (not being able to recognize names, domains etc.) Is there a way to have the spell checker ignore my signature. P.S. This is not a problem when posting news as the signature file is appended after the editing and command to send. ...thanks ...Mike -- ****************************************************************************** R. Michael Simmons (phone) 519-888-4567 ext. 3456 Computer Services (fax) 519-884-4398 University of Waterloo (email) msimmons@dcs1.uwaterloo.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 01:16:53 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18554; Wed, 17 Aug 94 01:16:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17857; Wed, 17 Aug 94 01:11:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17851; Wed, 17 Aug 94 01:11:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qag0K-00000cC; Wed, 17 Aug 94 01:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phil@lykos.netpart.com (Phil Trubey) Subject: POP client for Pine? Date: 16 Aug 1994 23:50:25 -0700 Message-Id: <32sc02$c0a@lykos.netpart.com> Are there any plans to include a POP client in Pine? -- Phil Trubey | Providing independent consulting in the NetPartners | application of Internet technology. E-mail: phil@netpart.com | Home Page: http://www.netpart.com/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 04:00:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22498; Wed, 17 Aug 94 04:00:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09145; Wed, 17 Aug 94 03:55:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09139; Wed, 17 Aug 94 03:55:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaic1-00000fC; Wed, 17 Aug 94 03:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: morris@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Law Mow-man) Subject: CTRL-C wrong key in MAC Date: 17 Aug 1994 01:20:32 GMT Message-Id: <32rol0$rb0@ctsc.hkbc.hk> I have installed pine 3.89 on our HP. I am using a MAC with small keyboard to connect with UNIX via telnet. When I run pine, the key CTRL-C is supposed to cancel editing and return to Main Menu. However, it return to quit pine. Is there any bug with my version of pine? How to correct it? Will it happen in the new version of Pine? -- Morris Law Technician / Demonstrator Address : 224 Waterloo Road, KLN, Hong Kong Department of Mathematics Tel : (852) 3397026 Fax : (852) 3388014 Hong Kong Baptist College Email : morris@math.hkbc.hk ========================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 04:34:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23833; Wed, 17 Aug 94 04:34:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20389; Wed, 17 Aug 94 04:29:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from leeman.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20383; Wed, 17 Aug 94 04:29:29 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by leeman.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <08263-0@leeman.york.ac.uk>; Wed, 17 Aug 1994 12:20:30 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for @leeman.york.ac.uk:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA01677; Wed, 17 Aug 94 12:33:10 +0100 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 12:33:09 +0000 From: Mike Brudenell To: Law Mow-man Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: CTRL-C wrong key in MAC In-Reply-To: <32rol0$rb0@ctsc.hkbc.hk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I think you may have your Telnet set up to inercept Ctrl/C and interpret it as Interrupt Process. Try looking in your Session menu at Setup Keys. No promises, but I rmember there was a funny like this. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Brudenell E-mail: pmb1@unix.york.ac.uk The Computing Service Phone: (+44) 904 433811 University of York FAX: (+44) 904 432767 Heslington York YO1 5DD U.K. On 17 Aug 1994, Law Mow-man wrote: > I have installed pine 3.89 on our HP. I am using a MAC with small keyboard > to connect with UNIX via telnet. When I run pine, the key CTRL-C is > supposed to cancel editing and return to Main Menu. However, it return to > quit pine. Is there any bug with my version of pine? How to correct it? > Will it happen in the new version of Pine? > > -- > Morris Law > Technician / Demonstrator Address : 224 Waterloo Road, KLN, Hong Kong > Department of Mathematics Tel : (852) 3397026 Fax : (852) 3388014 > Hong Kong Baptist College Email : morris@math.hkbc.hk > ========================================================================= > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 06:09:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26818; Wed, 17 Aug 94 06:09:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21699; Wed, 17 Aug 94 05:58:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21693; Wed, 17 Aug 94 05:58:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qakVm-00000NC; Wed, 17 Aug 94 05:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: P.D.Bates@bradford.ac.uk (P.D.Bates) Subject: ioctl (TIOCWINSZ) failed Message-Id: <1994Aug17.121351.3464@bradford.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 12:13:51 GMT Subject: ioctl (TIOCWINSZ) failed Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Summary: Keywords: X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9] Hello there... I've just compiled Pine3.89 on a Solaris 2.2 system and it seems to be working fine... The .pine-debug report however includes this line: ioctl (TIOCWINSZ) failed :Invalid argument Is this something I should be worried about? Have I failed to compile it OK? I would be most grateful for any help on this matter... Thanks! Peter Bates From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 06:49:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27782; Wed, 17 Aug 94 06:49:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11618; Wed, 17 Aug 94 06:29:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11612; Wed, 17 Aug 94 06:29:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qal2o-00000ZC; Wed, 17 Aug 94 06:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vvermeir@nessy.rug.ac.be (Viviane Vermeire) Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi Date: 17 Aug 1994 13:10:04 GMT Message-Id: <32t27c$kta@infoserv.rug.ac.be> References: <32apis$4i3@Tut.MsState.Edu> David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : On 10 Aug 1994, Terry L. Morgan wrote: : > How do you keep your screen from junking up in pine 3.89 when printing? : > : > : > Every time I print it also displays the message or send s the output to the : > screen also. This junks up the scrween and if you want to print other letters : > it looks kind of goofy. : > : This is a problem with the communication software on your PC... Is it possible to be more specific about what kind of problem ? It seems to me that, when using earlier versions of NCSA Telnet than 2.3.07 r2, no output is displayed on the screen. Viviane. E-mail: Viviane.Vermeire@rug.ac.be From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 08:24:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00947; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:24:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13296; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:16:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13290; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:16:36 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24175; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:16:29 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 08:16:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Phil Trubey Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: POP client for Pine? In-Reply-To: <32sc02$c0a@lykos.netpart.com> Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Are there any plans to include a POP client in Pine? It's being considered. The protocol part is easy (and in fact the C-client libraries include a POP driver), but we have not yet thought about all the other stuff, e.g. what new configuration variables are needed to distinguish between the remote INBOX --which is now just an intermediate drop point-- and the local INBOX you wish to append new messages to; how to control disconnecting and reconnecting to check for new mail, etc, etc. So, no promises yet, but it could happen --perhaps as an adjunct to the offline processing support planned for a future release. -teg p.s. I have my own thoughts on why doing this might make sense, even though we have no plans to deploy POP at UW, but I'd be interested in hearing from you in a private message about why you are interested. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 08:37:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01551; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:37:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24096; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:29:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ULTRIX.UOR.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24090; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:29:06 -0700 Received: by ultrix.uor.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA11573; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:31:40 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 08:31:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Sharon X Deng Subject: How to unsubscribe? To: Pine Info Group Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Could anybody tell me how to unsubscribe this mail list? I have tried many times in different ways, but I still keep receiving mails from this group. Thank you very much. Sharon Deng Assistant Director Internet: deng@ultrix.uor.edu Academic Computer Center deng@jccvms.uor.edu University of Redlands Phone: (909)793-2121 x.4963 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 08:47:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01949; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:47:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13826; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:39:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from acs7.acs.ucalgary.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13820; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:39:06 -0700 Received: from acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca by acs7.acs.ucalgary.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA32455; Wed, 17 Aug 1994 09:42:35 -0600 Received: by acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA76504; Wed, 17 Aug 1994 09:42:34 -0600 Message-Id: <9408171542.AA76504@acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca> Subject: Pico fill column To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Wed, 17 Aug 94 9:42:34 MDT From: "Deborah Teale" In-Reply-To: ; from "David L Miller" at Aug 15, 94 10:39 am Operating-System: AIX 2 3 Organization: Academic Computing Services X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11y] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 312 In 3.89 (pico 2.3) it seems pico will set the fill column according to the window size which is awkward with X-Windows. Will this be a control argument or user-settable option in 3.90 so that pico can be used with other applications? -- Debbie Teale, UCS, University of Calgary E-mail: teale@acs.ucalgary.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 08:55:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02368; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:55:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24621; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:50:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24615; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:50:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qanEC-00000NC; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmcgaf@ee.WPI.EDU (Jay C McGaffigan) Subject: Where is the pine FAQ?? Date: 17 Aug 1994 14:20:41 GMT Message-Id: <32t6bp$cf1@bigboote.WPI.EDU> could someone tell me where the pine FAQ is? email only please to either jmcgaf@ee.wpi.edu or jcmcgaffigan@tasc.com Thanks in advance!!! Jay -- || Jay McGaffigan || "For I will find the || || jmcgaf@ee.wpi.edu ||song or you will find || || ||the song." || || || Wheel of Time || From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 10:00:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05560; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:00:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26245; Wed, 17 Aug 94 09:56:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mozart.csc.wsu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26239; Wed, 17 Aug 94 09:56:26 -0700 Received: (from dickinso@localhost) by mozart.csc.wsu.edu (8.6.9/WSUit-1.1) id JAA01288; Wed, 17 Aug 1994 09:56:20 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 09:51:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Diane Dickinson Subject: Non-expansion of dist list To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Will there ever be the ability to hide distribution list members in the to header using Pine? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 10:08:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05905; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:08:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15556; Wed, 17 Aug 94 09:56:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15550; Wed, 17 Aug 94 09:56:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaoD2-00000QC; Wed, 17 Aug 94 09:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Updating the INBOX? Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 08:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: The new mail check was added in Pine 3.89. In earlier releases you can press 'N' a few times at the end of the index. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 17 Aug 1994, S.G. de Bruijn wrote: > David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: > > : ^L will check for new mail as it repaints the screen... > > My solaris pine 3.88 doesn't... > > Steef > -------------- > S.G. de Bruijn E-Mail: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl > Twente University of Technology, Dept. of Computer Science > Enschede The Netherlands > Phone: Work: +53 894191 Home: +53 334812 > -----------------------==== @@ ====----------------------- > signature: file not found > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 10:13:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06146; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:13:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26544; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:08:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26538; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:08:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaoOt-00000NC; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: POP client for Pine? Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 08:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <32sc02$c0a@lykos.netpart.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32sc02$c0a@lykos.netpart.com> The underlying c-client library that Pine uses now supports POP, so it would not be hard to hack in POP support, but we are waiting until we can make Pine behave like a more traditional POP client... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 16 Aug 1994, Phil Trubey wrote: > Are there any plans to include a POP client in Pine? > > -- > Phil Trubey | Providing independent consulting in the > NetPartners | application of Internet technology. > E-mail: phil@netpart.com | Home Page: http://www.netpart.com/ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 10:13:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06179; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:13:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15849; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:08:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15843; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:08:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaoP9-00000QC; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Where is the pine FAQ?? Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 08:46:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32t6bp$cf1@bigboote.WPI.EDU> We have an FAQ almost ready, but have not yet posted it.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 17 Aug 1994, Jay C McGaffigan wrote: > could someone tell me where the pine FAQ is? email only please > to either jmcgaf@ee.wpi.edu or jcmcgaffigan@tasc.com > Thanks in advance!!! > > Jay > > -- > || Jay McGaffigan || "For I will find the || > || jmcgaf@ee.wpi.edu ||song or you will find || > || ||the song." || > || || Wheel of Time || > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 10:18:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06417; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:18:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26604; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:10:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26598; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:10:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaoTq-00000LC; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dave King Subject: Re: ioctl (TIOCWINSZ) failed In-Reply-To: <1994Aug17.121351.3464@bradford.ac.uk> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <1994Aug17.121351.3464@bradford.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 15:55:51 GMT This behaviour is something that I've known about for a long time, but only fixed a couple of days ago with the help of Sequent support. I have implemented this solution on DYNIX/ptx 2.0.4 and it works for me. It may or may not work for your operating system, but it's easy to try out. I think you'll find what is happening is that ioctl() is being passed a window size of 0,0 from UNIX which ioclt() considers to be an invalid window size. I suspect this problem may be generic to SYSV Unix, perhaps others can confirm this? Confirm what your shell "thinks" your current window dimensions are by doing an "stty -a", and look for the "rows" and "cols" values. If they are shown as 0 (zero), try this fix: stty cols `tput cols` rows `tput lines` This shoud use stty to set window dimensions to those defined in your terminfo database according to your TERM variable. Run Pine again and check your .pine-debug file to see if ioctl is now reporting a correct window size. If you find Pine (and your other programs) are happy with this, you could put the line in your /etc/profile. I hope this helps. Dave ___________________________________________________________________ Dave King Admin. Computing Services Manager, University of Bristol RFC-822: Dave.King@bristol.ac.uk X.400: G=Dave;S=King;O=bristol;P=UK.AC;C=GB Telephone: 0117 9303961 On Wed, 17 Aug 1994, P.D.Bates wrote: > I've just compiled Pine3.89 > on a Solaris 2.2 system and > it seems to be working fine... > > The .pine-debug report however includes this line: > > ioctl (TIOCWINSZ) failed :Invalid argument > > Is this something I should > be worried about? > > Have I failed to compile it OK? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 10:27:21 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06868; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:27:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16085; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:18:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16079; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:18:47 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA10102; Thu, 18 Aug 94 01:19:46 +0800 Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 01:19:45 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Automated Filer? To: Jonathan Loh Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <32s8ek$am5@nic-nac.CSU.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 17 Aug 1994, Jonathan Loh wrote: > Is there a way of putting mail in seperate mailboxes? without > using something like procmail? In elm this is possible, using the > filter command. You could use "filter" from the elm distribution since "filter", like "procmail", is not tied to a particular UA. At first glance procmail seems more difficult to use.....but it is much more flexible and it is time well spent learning how to use it. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 11:42:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10233; Wed, 17 Aug 94 11:42:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17774; Wed, 17 Aug 94 11:35:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17768; Wed, 17 Aug 94 11:35:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qapnt-00000NC; Wed, 17 Aug 94 11:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: beng@dorsai.org (Ben Ng) Subject: sorting incoming mail? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 15:09:27 GMT Is it possible to have incoming mail be sorted to go into different folders as they are received whether by sender,host,?... Thank you.. -- Ben Ng beng@dorsai.dorsai.org New York City From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 12:12:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11501; Wed, 17 Aug 94 12:12:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29199; Wed, 17 Aug 94 12:04:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29189; Wed, 17 Aug 94 12:04:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaqDi-00000NC; Wed, 17 Aug 94 12:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pico fill column Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 11:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <9408171542.AA76504@acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9408171542.AA76504@acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca> A hack I have used at times is to "stty cols 80" before entering pico... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 17 Aug 1994, Deborah Teale wrote: > In 3.89 (pico 2.3) it seems pico will set the fill column > according to the window size which is awkward with X-Windows. > Will this be a control argument or user-settable option in 3.90 > so that pico can be used with other applications? > > -- > Debbie Teale, UCS, University of Calgary > E-mail: teale@acs.ucalgary.ca > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 12:27:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12058; Wed, 17 Aug 94 12:27:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18647; Wed, 17 Aug 94 12:20:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sirius.cc.utexas.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18639; Wed, 17 Aug 94 12:20:52 -0700 Received: (from loflin@localhost) by sirius.cc.utexas.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.6/cc-os.mc-1.2) id OAA01374; Wed, 17 Aug 1994 14:20:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 14:20:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Don Loflin Subject: Re: Automated Filer? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <32sasp$36s@ousrvr.oulu.fi> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 17 Aug 1994, Marko Hotti wrote: > Jonathan Loh (jloh@futon.SFSU.EDU) wrote: > : Is there a way of putting mail in seperate mailboxes? without > : using something like procmail? In elm this is possible, using the > : filter command. > > With Pine you can use the same filter command and filter-rules > file in the $HOME/.elm -directory as you would use with Elm. What can you do if your inbox is accessable only via IMAP? Filter and Procmail require access to the mail spool file, as far as I know. Are there any mail filtering tools which use IMAP for getting the mail? --- Don Loflin Microcomputer Technologies, Computation Center - UT Austin loflin@sirius.cc.utexas.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 12:31:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12181; Wed, 17 Aug 94 12:31:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18740; Wed, 17 Aug 94 12:25:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18728; Wed, 17 Aug 94 12:25:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaqZS-00000NC; Wed, 17 Aug 94 12:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jchurch@macbeth.umd.edu (Jon Church) Subject: PC-Pine Mail Folder Date: 17 Aug 1994 18:45:48 GMT Message-Id: <32tlst$68u@umd5.umd.edu> I want to have PC-pine be available to various teachers at the same machine. In order to do this I need separate pine and mail folders for each teacher. These folders could be kept on their Novell home directory but it seems as if PC-Pine always wants to place the pine and mail folders at the top level of the volume. Any suggestions? -- ******************************************* Jon Church jchurch@umd5.umd.edu Gonzaga High School Washington, DC ******************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 14:53:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17773; Wed, 17 Aug 94 14:53:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21769; Wed, 17 Aug 94 14:45:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21763; Wed, 17 Aug 94 14:45:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qashu-00000gC; Wed, 17 Aug 94 14:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: JBLACKER@DIAL.CIC.NET (John Blacker) Subject: PINE CONFUSION Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 16:29:26 Message-Id: I hope someone can help me through the confusion. I'm new to the "Unix world" and have recently installed Linux which contains pine. I was told by my internet access provider that pine would allow me to send/receive mail by pointing it at the slip service providers system (DIAL.CIC.NET). In looking at the .pinerc, I see where I think I put: {dial.cic.net}inbox. Is that all I have to change? Do I need smail/sendmail? My goal is to be able to send and receive mail when logged on to my Linux machine. Does it matter what userid I'm logged on to Linux with? I believe I have to run DIP under root? After I get my slip connection going, do I then logout of root and logon under my real internet userid (jblacker) ? Help! John C. Blacker, CDP Blacker & Assoc. email: jblacker@dial.cic.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 20:48:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29361; Wed, 17 Aug 94 20:48:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09352; Wed, 17 Aug 94 20:35:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09346; Wed, 17 Aug 94 20:35:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qayCa-00000LC; Wed, 17 Aug 94 20:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: PINE CONFUSION Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 20:13:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: John, Setting inbox-path={dial.cic.net}INBOX is sufficient to take care of your INBOX. If you want access to folders on the remote machine, set folder-collections="Local Folders" mail/[], "CIC Folders" {dial.cic.net}mail/[] Pine will use sendmail by default to send mail, but if you want to avoid the hassle, you can set smtp-server=dial.cic.net to use the remote server for sending. I don't know the details of DIP usage, but I presume you have to start it as root. Pine will prompt you for a username/password on the remote server, so it doesn't really matter who you are logged in as on the local machine. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 17 Aug 1994, John Blacker wrote: > I hope someone can help me through the confusion. I'm new to the "Unix world" > and have recently installed Linux which contains pine. I was told by my > internet access provider that pine would allow me to send/receive mail by > pointing it at the slip service providers system (DIAL.CIC.NET). In looking > at the .pinerc, I see where I think I put: {dial.cic.net}inbox. Is that all I > have to change? Do I need smail/sendmail? My goal is to be able to send and > receive mail when logged on to my Linux machine. Does it matter what userid > I'm logged on to Linux with? I believe I have to run DIP under root? After I > get my slip connection going, do I then logout of root and logon under my real > internet userid (jblacker) ? Help! > John C. Blacker, CDP > Blacker & Assoc. > email: jblacker@dial.cic.net > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 22:55:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01739; Wed, 17 Aug 94 22:55:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11045; Wed, 17 Aug 94 22:50:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11039; Wed, 17 Aug 94 22:50:51 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05585; Wed, 17 Aug 94 22:50:50 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29347; Wed, 17 Aug 94 20:48:05 -0700 Received: from inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09522; Wed, 17 Aug 94 20:48:04 -0700 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com by inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com (5.65/10Aug94) id AA28834; Wed, 17 Aug 94 20:44:29 -0700 Received: by pobox1.pa.dec.com; id AA06928; Wed, 17 Aug 94 20:42:49 -0700 Received: by new.dec.com (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA04119; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 04:42:38 +0100 Received: by ds3100.new.dec.com (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA05891; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 04:42:38 +0100 Message-Id: <9408180342.AA05891@ds3100.new.dec.com> To: pine-info-approval@cac.washington.edu Subject: PINE & MH Date: Thu, 18 Aug 94 04:42:38 +0100 From: "Stuart Broderick (@NEW 774-6251)" X-Mts: smtp Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 22:50:36 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: ------- Forwarded Message Return-Path: stuart Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 01:41:52 +0100 From: stuart (Stuart Broderick) To: pine-info-request@cac.washington.edu Subject: PINE & MH mail Cc: stuart Hi, Is there a version of PINE available which supports MH style mail folders ? If not, will a version be available (& when) and in the meantime, do you know of any tools to convert MH mail folders into PINE compatible files ? I'm looking forward to using PINE in anger, but am reluctant to manually reformat my mail folders !! I think the PINE functionality overall looks really great !! Regards Stuart. ------- End of Forwarded Message From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 18 00:10:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03051; Thu, 18 Aug 94 00:10:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00207; Thu, 18 Aug 94 00:01:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00201; Thu, 18 Aug 94 00:01:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qb1S2-00000LC; Wed, 17 Aug 94 23:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: greg@gagme.wwa.com (Gregory Gulik) Subject: PINE and Wyse-60 Date: 18 Aug 1994 01:48:36 -0500 Message-Id: <32v084$9kl@gagme.wwa.com> I have a customer who is using PINE on AIX machine with a bunch of Wyse-60 terminals. It would seem that the Wyse-60's down arrow key sends a CTRL-J, which PINE is interpreting as a CR, which doesn't do what they expect. What solutions have people used to get PINE to work well on a Wyse-60 terminal? -- Gregory Gulik greg@wwa.com http://gagme.wwa.com/~greg Computing Engineers, Inc. Home of WorldWide Access (SM) Data: +1 312 282 8605 +1 708 367 1871 Voice: +1 708 367 1870 Info: info@wwa.com Support: support@wwa.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 18 02:21:08 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06207; Thu, 18 Aug 94 02:21:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13786; Thu, 18 Aug 94 02:16:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13780; Thu, 18 Aug 94 02:16:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qb3WX-00000MC; Thu, 18 Aug 94 02:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: robbee@crl.com (Rob Bidleman) Subject: pine .sig always at top Date: 18 Aug 1994 02:05:38 -0700 Message-Id: <32v892$gqm@crl3.crl.com> I would like to have my .sig added to the END of my replys...it always gets pasted to the TOP? Is there anyway tp fix this? Rob ---------------------------------------------------------------robbee@crl.com- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 18 05:50:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10835; Thu, 18 Aug 94 05:50:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04642; Thu, 18 Aug 94 05:43:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04636; Thu, 18 Aug 94 05:43:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qb6VK-00000QC; Thu, 18 Aug 94 05:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mhotti@paju.oulu.fi (Marko Hotti) Subject: Re: pine .sig always at top Date: 18 Aug 1994 12:04:43 GMT Message-Id: <32vior$l4n@ousrvr.oulu.fi> References: <32v892$gqm@crl3.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Rob Bidleman (robbee@crl.com) wrote: : I would like to have my .sig added to the END of my replys...it always : gets pasted to the TOP? Is there anyway tp fix this? : Rob : ---------------------------------------------------------------robbee@crl.com- In .pinerc -file of your home directory there is an entry like this: ############################### Preferences ################################ # feature-list= comma-separated list of features from the following set: # Note: the value "old-growth" is shorthand for the indicated features... # enable-zoom-cmd (included in old-growth set) # expanded-view-of-folders # use-function-keys # include-header-in-reply # signature-at-bottom <<<<<---------------------- HERE ! # delete-skips-deleted # e.g. # feature-list= old-growth, signature-at-bottom feature-list=old-growth, expanded-view-of-folders, signature-at-bottom Just edit the .pinerc -file and make it look like above. -=Marko=- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 18 07:40:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12797; Thu, 18 Aug 94 07:40:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05951; Thu, 18 Aug 94 07:30:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from wolfe.wimsey.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05945; Thu, 18 Aug 94 07:30:38 -0700 Received: by wolfe.wimsey.com (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0qb8UH-0002t6C; Thu, 18 Aug 94 07:30 PDT Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.00/200.1.1.4) id AA10647; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 07:08:30 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 07:08:30 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: Re: PINE and Wyse-60 Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <32v084$9kl@gagme.wwa.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 18 Aug 1994, Gregory Gulik wrote: > I have a customer who is using PINE on AIX machine with a bunch > of Wyse-60 terminals. > > It would seem that the Wyse-60's down arrow key sends a CTRL-J, > which PINE is interpreting as a CR, which doesn't do what they > expect. No..and the cursur UP key deletes lines! (fun, fun fun!) > What solutions have people used to get PINE to work well > on a Wyse-60 terminal? Since the authours have hard coded the key sequences into PINE, I suppose you could try and hack the code to change the keystrokes for Justify, etc. It would be REALLY nice if PINE would use a TERMINFO file :( B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl3.wimsey.com | |System Administration, hampson@wimsey.com | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | | | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 18 10:59:47 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20865; Thu, 18 Aug 94 10:59:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21708; Thu, 18 Aug 94 10:52:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from weber.ucsd.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21697; Thu, 18 Aug 94 10:52:54 -0700 Received: from localhost (corrigan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by weber.ucsd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA09485; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 10:52:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199408181752.KAA09485@weber.ucsd.edu> To: "Stuart Broderick (@NEW 774-6251)" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Reply-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE & MH In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 18 Aug 1994 04:42:38 +0100." <9408180342.AA05891@ds3100.new.dec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Id: <9479.777232368.1@weber.ucsd.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 10:52:48 -0700 From: "Michael J. Corrigan" The packmbox program that comes with MH (in the MH library directory) can be used for this e.g. packmbox +inbox >> /usr/mail/stuart > > ------- Forwarded Message > > Return-Path: stuart > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 01:41:52 +0100 > From: stuart (Stuart Broderick) > To: pine-info-request@cac.washington.edu > Subject: PINE & MH mail > Cc: stuart > > > > Hi, > Is there a version of PINE available which supports MH style mail folders ? > > If not, will a version be available (& when) and in the meantime, do you > know of any tools to convert MH mail folders into PINE compatible files ? > > I'm looking forward to using PINE in anger, but am reluctant to manually > reformat my mail folders !! I think the PINE functionality overall looks > really great !! > > Regards > > Stuart. > > ------- End of Forwarded Message > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 18 11:16:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21628; Thu, 18 Aug 94 11:16:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10670; Thu, 18 Aug 94 11:09:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from amis06.ami.alcoa.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10660; Thu, 18 Aug 94 11:09:03 -0700 Received: from SSW.ALCOA.COM by amis06.ami.alcoa.com with SMTP; Thu, 18 Aug 1994 14:09:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by SSW.ALCOA.COM (Soft*Switch Central V4L380P5) id 141159130094230FSSW; 18 Aug 1994 13:59:13 GMT Message-Id: Date: 18 Aug 1994 13:59:13 GMT From: "Postmaster" Subject: DISTRIBUTION STATUS To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Comment: MEMO 08.18.94 13.59 SMTP.PINEINFO DISTRIBUTION STATUS INFORMATION 08/18/94 13:59:00 ======================================================================= DISTRIBUTION ID: SMTP.PINEINFO.3347 SUBJECT : Re: PINE & MH DATE SENT : 08/18/94 TIME SENT: 13:59:00 ======================================================================= YOUR MAIL WAS NOT DELIVERED FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON: SNADS STATUS : 0301 EXPLANATION : INVALID RECIPIENT ======================================================================= RECIPIENT : ALCOA.SIMMON04 LAST NAME : FIRST NAME : MIDDLE INITIAL : NATIVE NAME : COUNTRY : ADMD : PRMD : ORGANIZATION : ORG UNIT 1 : ORG UNIT 2 : ORG UNIT 3 : ORG UNIT 4 : DDA : From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 18 12:58:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25809; Thu, 18 Aug 94 12:58:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23935; Thu, 18 Aug 94 12:51:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23929; Thu, 18 Aug 94 12:51:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbDLt-00000MC; Thu, 18 Aug 94 12:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dan@umbc.edu (Dan Dinkin; ACS) Subject: PC-Pine and VMS MAIL errors Date: 18 Aug 1994 15:01:43 -0400 Message-Id: <330b6nINNiq5@umbc7.umbc.edu> Hi, I am running the latest versions of PMDF IMAPD (8-AUG) and of PC-Pine (3.89). I have been able to configure PC-Pine to attach to my VMS mail, read it, delete it and exit. I can also see my other folders. However, when I try to open any of the other folders or I try to compose a message, it fails with the message [Error connecting to mail server: Unable to create TCP socket <55>] or something similar. This problem occurs even if I am reading my mail from VMS, but my smtp-server is a unix host. Also, if my session is connected completely to unix (i.e. inbox, smtp-server, folder-collections, etc) then all works fine. If no one can tell me what the full problem is, can someone at least tell me what the error message refers to? I am attaching my PINERC file below. Regards and TIA, Dan Daniel A. Dinkin Network Manager Internet: dan@umbc.edu Academic Computing BITNET: dan@umbc U of MD Baltimore County Baltimore, Maryland 21228 (410)455-3631 Any thoughts in this message are purely random and my employer had nothing to do with them... especially if I was right. # Updated by Pine(tm) 3.89, copyright 1989-1993 University of Washington. # # Pine configuration file -- customize as needed. # # This file sets the configuration options used by Pine and PC-Pine. If you # are using Pine on a Unix system, there may be a system-wide configuration # file which sets the defaults for these variables. There are comments in # this file to explain each variable, but if you have questions about # specific settings see the section on configuration options in the Pine # notes. # Your login/e-mail user name user-id=dan # Your name as you want it to appear on outgoing email personal-name=Dan Dinkin # Your printer selection printer= # Special print command if it isn't one of the standard printers personal-print-command= # Date last time you were asked about deleting old sent-mail (automatic) last-time-prune-questioned=94.8 # Default domain name. Controls the return address on outgoing email and # also used as the default domain for email composed to a local user. #You must define a user-domain for PC-Pine. user-domain=umbc.edu # use-only-domain-name=yes # Name/path/location of inbox. Examples: # inbox-path={carson.u.washington.edu}inbox (INBOX on a remote computer) # inbox-path=inbox (standard inbox on local system) #inbox-path={umbc2.umbc.edu}"#dsa2:[systems.dan.mail]mail.mai#inbox" inbox-path={umbc2.umbc.edu} # The default folder where a copy of outgoing mail is saved. If this is #not a fully qualified file name, then it is relative to the default #collection for saves. default-fcc=sentmail # List of SMTP servers for sending mail. You must have an SMTP server # for use with PC-Pine. Example: smtp-server=mailhost.u.washington.edu smtp-server=umbc.edu # Editor to use in place of Pine's internal composer (Pico) editor= # Program to view images if format such as GIF and TIFF image-viewer= # Name of file to read signature out of for inclusion in outgoing mail signature-file=c:\pine\pine.sig # Directory where postponed and interrupted messages will be held temporarily mail-directory=c:\pine # Character set should be either US-ASCII or ISO-8859-x, where x is a number # between 1 and 9 character-set= # List of folders other than INBOX that receive new messages. Use only if # you filter incoming email into multiple files or receive email on several # different machines. For example: # incoming-folders=Consulting {carson.u.washington.edu}filter/to-help, # Widget-Project {carson.u.washington.edu}filter/to-widget, # Old-Student-Acct {imap.berkeley.edu}inbox incoming-folders= # One or more collections where saved messages are stored. #The first one is the default collection for saves. For example: # folder-collections=PC-folders C:\MAIL\[], # Carson-folders {carson.u.washington.edu}mail/[] folder-collections=Mail C:\MAIL\[], VMS-Folders {umbc2.umbc.edu}[] # One or more collections of news folders (e.g. *{news.u.washington.edu/nntp}[]) news-collections={news.umbc.edu/nntp}[] # Pine executes these keys upon startup (e.g. to view msg 13: i,j,1,3,CR,v) initial-keystroke-list=i # Version of Pine used last session (set automatically) last-version-used=3.89 # feature-list= comma-separated list of features from the following set: # Note: the value "old-growth" is shorthand for the indicated features... # enable-full-header-cmd (included in old-growth set) # enable-unix-pipe-cmd (included in old-growth set) # enable-bounce-cmd (included in old-growth set) # enable-alternate-editor-cmd (included in old-growth set) # enable-suspend (included in old-growth set) # enable-tab-completion (included in old-growth set) # enable-jump-shortcut (included in old-growth set) # quit-without-confirm (included in old-growth set) # enable-goto-cmd (included in old-growth set) # enable-apply-cmd (included in old-growth set) # enable-flag-cmd (included in old-growth set) # enable-zoom-cmd (included in old-growth set) # enable-forward-as-MIME # expanded-view-of-folders # use-function-keys # include-header-in-reply # signature-at-bottom # show-all-characters # delete-skips-deleted # e.g. # feature-list= old-growth, signature-at-bottom feature-list= # sort-key= order in which messages will be presented... # Choose one: subject, from, arrival, date, cc, to, size # Normal default is "arrival" sort-key= # saved-msg-name-rule= determines default folder name for Saves... # Choose one: default-folder, by-sender, by-recipient last-folder-used # Normal default is "default-folder" saved-msg-name-rule= # The folder where a copy of read mail is saved. read-message-folder= # address-book specifies the filename or path name of Pine's addressbook. # Unix Pine default is normally ~/.addressbook # PC-Pine default is \PINE\ADDRBOOK address-book= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 18 15:21:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02022; Thu, 18 Aug 94 15:21:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15534; Thu, 18 Aug 94 15:15:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15526; Thu, 18 Aug 94 15:15:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbFXb-00000cC; Thu, 18 Aug 94 15:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: liamr@css.itd.umich.edu (Liam Hoekenga) Subject: Re: CTRL-C wrong key in MAC Date: 18 Aug 1994 21:34:38 GMT Message-Id: <330k5f$m7@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <32rol0$rb0@ctsc.hkbc.hk> Law Mow-man (morris@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE) wrote: : I have installed pine 3.89 on our HP. I am using a MAC with small keyboard : to connect with UNIX via telnet. When I run pine, the key CTRL-C is : supposed to cancel editing and return to Main Menu. However, it return to : quit pine. Is there any bug with my version of pine? How to correct it? : Will it happen in the new version of Pine? It's more likely telnet that's causing the problem. You're using NCSA Telnet for Mac? Hmm... Try hitting command-s (it's the key setup stuff). You'll see that "Interrupt" is set to control-c. Hilight that and hit delete. Just leave that entry blank, and see if control-c works in pine then. Liam From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 18 16:45:08 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05220; Thu, 18 Aug 94 16:45:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28645; Thu, 18 Aug 94 16:39:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28639; Thu, 18 Aug 94 16:39:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbGjc-00000VC; Thu, 18 Aug 94 16:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: PINE & MH Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 15:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <9408180342.AA05891@ds3100.new.dec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9408180342.AA05891@ds3100.new.dec.com> Pine 3.90 will include support for MH folders. It is scheduled for release early next week. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 18 Aug 1994, Stuart Broderick (@NEW 774-6251) wrote: > > ------- Forwarded Message > > Return-Path: stuart > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 01:41:52 +0100 > From: stuart (Stuart Broderick) > To: pine-info-request@cac.washington.edu > Subject: PINE & MH mail > Cc: stuart > > > > Hi, > Is there a version of PINE available which supports MH style mail folders ? > > If not, will a version be available (& when) and in the meantime, do you > know of any tools to convert MH mail folders into PINE compatible files ? > > I'm looking forward to using PINE in anger, but am reluctant to manually > reformat my mail folders !! I think the PINE functionality overall looks > really great !! > > Regards > > Stuart. > > ------- End of Forwarded Message > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 18 18:13:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08585; Thu, 18 Aug 94 18:13:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00471; Thu, 18 Aug 94 18:09:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00465; Thu, 18 Aug 94 18:09:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbGu3-00000MC; Thu, 18 Aug 94 16:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rdevera@killerbee.jsc.nasa.gov (Richard Devera) Subject: Pine doesn't know about New Mail Date: 18 Aug 1994 23:04:41 GMT Message-Id: <330pe9$6vo@pendragon.jsc.nasa.gov> I'm running Ultrix 4.3a and sendmail 8.6.9. I've noticed when I'm notified of New Mail at the shell prompt, PINE does not recognize the new mail or move the mail out of the spool area. If I run the old mail :-(, I find that mail exists. Do I need to configure something? Richard Devera rdevera@hti.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 18 18:15:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08641; Thu, 18 Aug 94 18:15:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19231; Thu, 18 Aug 94 18:06:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19225; Thu, 18 Aug 94 18:06:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbH7f-00000VC; Thu, 18 Aug 94 16:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: heimdall@myhost.subdomain.domain (Heimdall) Subject: Reply Headers/Different From Address Date: 18 Aug 1994 23:15:10 GMT Message-Id: <330q1u$qrp@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> I'm running PINE 3.89 on Linux 1.1.44 with SMail 3.1.28 on a SL/IP connection with an address that changes every time I connect. Mail sent to those addresses aren't forwarded anywhere else. I was wondering if there is either a way to change the from address of sent mail to something different, or add a header field which will redirect replies to a different address? =============================================================================== Daniel Whicker Music Education Major at the University of Texas at Austin Email "heimdall@mail.utexas.edu" << SEND ALL MAIL HERE =============================================================================== "Celibacy is hereditary; if your parents didn't have sex, you probably won't, either." -- Anonymous =============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 18 21:42:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12564; Thu, 18 Aug 94 21:42:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22036; Thu, 18 Aug 94 21:38:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22030; Thu, 18 Aug 94 21:38:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbLZn-00000MC; Thu, 18 Aug 94 21:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: byrgb@millkern.digex.net (Byrg Bonnelycke) Subject: pine listserver? Date: 19 Aug 1994 01:11:05 GMT Message-Id: <3310r9$q1i@news1.digex.net> Is there a 'pine' mailing list (i.e. listserver)? Thanx, Byrg (byrgb@millkern.com) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 18 21:56:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12742; Thu, 18 Aug 94 21:56:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03176; Thu, 18 Aug 94 21:50:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03170; Thu, 18 Aug 94 21:50:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbLhm-00000NC; Thu, 18 Aug 94 21:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bweaver@worf.infonet.net (David Morris) Subject: Re: Using PICO editor Date: 19 Aug 1994 01:59:11 GMT Message-Id: <3313lf$j06@worf.infonet.net> References: <32eq7o$p4p@worf.infonet.net> <32hm4v$dim@garlic.com> Richard Barber (ribarbe@garlic.com) wrote: <[ Did you try ^6 Just did (after a week's vacation. Though I had to hit it twice to work. THANKS!! -- +-+ David Morris bweaver@worf.infonet.net Green Mountain, Iowa +---------+ | The extravagant gesture is the very stuff of creation. | | The whole show has been on fire from the word go! - A. Dillard | +------------Disclaimer: You aren't responsible for my ideas.--------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 18 22:14:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13189; Thu, 18 Aug 94 22:14:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22434; Thu, 18 Aug 94 22:09:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22428; Thu, 18 Aug 94 22:09:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbLwF-00000VC; Thu, 18 Aug 94 21:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: anto@inn.bppt.go.id (Anto Daryanto) Subject: System global won't work Date: 18 Aug 1994 21:37:41 -0500 Message-Id: Hi, I am using Pine 3.89 in Sun and HP. The global pine configurations seems doesn't work but user's conf. does work. Can somebody help me, it's time consuming to configure every new users.... Anto Daryanto --- lantai 21 Gedung baru BPP Teknologi telpon +62-21-3169809 Direktorat Teknologi Elektronika dan Informatika BPP Teknologi From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 18 22:28:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13415; Thu, 18 Aug 94 22:28:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03602; Thu, 18 Aug 94 22:24:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03596; Thu, 18 Aug 94 22:24:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbM7w-00000MC; Thu, 18 Aug 94 22:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: System global won't work Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 19:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: After running Pine with a global pine.conf file, take a look at the .pine-debug1 file. It will tell you if the /usr/local/lib/pine.conf file was found and what settings were found in it. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 18 Aug 1994, Anto Daryanto wrote: > Hi, > I am using Pine 3.89 in Sun and HP. The global pine configurations seems > doesn't work but user's conf. does work. > > Can somebody help me, it's time consuming to configure every new users.... > > Anto Daryanto > --- > lantai 21 Gedung baru BPP Teknologi > telpon +62-21-3169809 > Direktorat Teknologi Elektronika dan Informatika > BPP Teknologi > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 19 01:03:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16834; Fri, 19 Aug 94 01:03:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24802; Fri, 19 Aug 94 00:59:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24796; Fri, 19 Aug 94 00:59:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbOXx-00000VC; Fri, 19 Aug 94 00:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsumler@corsair.ucs.indiana.edu (jeffery sumler) Subject: Re: Maximum number of entries in Address List Message-Id: References: <32jgjb$1gm@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 06:20:59 GMT In article , David L Miller wrote: > >We have gone to considerable effort to upgrade addressbook support in Pine >3.90 to handle huge addressbooks with reasonable performance. One of our >test addressbooks has over 10,000 entries. Pine 3.89 does crash on a >sendmail bug with large numbers of recipients, but that is also solved in >Pine 3.90... > Cool. Please understand that I wasn't criticizing pine on this point - I think 1,000 entries per list is a reasonable limit. At one point my test addressbook has over 15,000 entries, divided into approximately 15 lists with 1,000 entries per list and pine worked just fine. I only hit this limit because some of our users maintained enormous administrative mailing lists (~3,000 entries typically) under VMS and wanted to move them to pine's addressbook, since they were being "encouraged" to move their email activities from our VMS cluster to our primary unix email host. Actually, since it's late and I'm tired :), I'll ramble on a bit. I think support for huge mailing lists within a MUA like pine or elm or mh or whatever is ultimately a misplaced effort. Big mailing lists (where big >= 100 entries) are best handled by network information providers (NIS, Hesiod), by an MTA database (sendmail's aliases file for example) or by a dedicated mailing list manager (e.g. MajorDomo). There's no reason to force a MUA to bear the burden of parsing and formatting enormous lists while striving to be "interactive", when such tasks can be more handled more efficiently and at less cost (in user time and cycles) by a background MTA or better yet by a list manager on another host. I've been spending far too much time with sendmail and BIND lately, so I'll go get a life now :) jeff sumler > >On Mon, 15 Aug 1994, jeffery sumler wrote: >> >> This comment from adrbklib.h (pine 3.89) indicates that each entry in >> the addressbook can contain up to 1000 addresses. I tested this while >> writing a little program that converted VMS distribution lists to pine >> addressbook entries and I think I got 1010 or so before pine dumped >> core. >> >> from adrbklib.h: >> /* There are no restrictions on the length on any of the fields. This current >> code restricts the number of addresses in a list to 1000. >> */ >> >> jeff sumler >> jsumler@indiana.edu >> >> >> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 19 03:49:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20527; Fri, 19 Aug 94 03:49:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26950; Fri, 19 Aug 94 03:44:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from redsun.cs.msu.su by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26944; Fri, 19 Aug 94 03:44:29 -0700 Received: from io.cs.msu.su (io.cs.msu.su [158.250.17.1]) by redsun (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA17005; Fri, 19 Aug 1994 14:41:55 +0400 From: "Panteleev A.S." Received: from localhost (pas@localhost) by io.cs.msu.su (8.6.5/8.6.5) id OAA01359; Fri, 19 Aug 1994 14:48:09 +0400 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 14:48:09 +0400 Message-Id: <199408191048.OAA01359@io.cs.msu.su> To: lgl@cac.washington.edu, mikes@cac.washington.edu, pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help me please . Hello, I have problems with linking Pine 3.89. When i use option of linker '/DYNAMIC' as it is in makefile the obtained 'pine.exe' simply reboots my PC. I tried to use old option '/OLDOVERLAY' . Than it partly works. But for this option Microsoft Linker 5.30 has some restrictions on using of pointers to functions in different overlays. So i think that is why it works only partly after linking with this flag. I need to use flag 'DYNAMIC' but i cant undersand why the 'pine.exe' doesnt work after this. I am sure that the only problem with the program is overlays. I have i386 DOS 6.0 PC-NFS 4.0 Microsoft Compiler 7.0 Microsoft Linker 5.30 May be highmem.sys or emm386.exe or PC-NFS is configured wrong. If it is not difficult would you tell me how i should configure my PC to make the program work. Or may be i must use another linker. Or if it possible would you send me the file 'pine.def' to use linker with the flag '/OLDOVERLAY'. Help me please. Thanks alot. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 19 05:15:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22731; Fri, 19 Aug 94 05:15:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28221; Fri, 19 Aug 94 05:11:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ultrix.ramapo.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28215; Fri, 19 Aug 94 05:11:14 -0700 Received: by ultrix (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA07482; Fri, 19 Aug 1994 08:11:05 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 08:11:05 -0400 From: smann@ultrix.ramapo.edu (Steve-"Ill build your dreams with these 2 hands") Message-Id: <9408191211.AA07482@ultrix> To: byrgb@millkern.digex.net Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <3310r9$q1i@news1.digex.net> (byrgb@millkern.digex.net) Subject: Re: pine listserver? Try mailing to pine-info-request@cac.washington.edu with sub pine-info as the body of the message. Steve From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 19 05:56:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23588; Fri, 19 Aug 94 05:56:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09419; Fri, 19 Aug 94 05:51:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09413; Fri, 19 Aug 94 05:51:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbTA5-00000LC; Fri, 19 Aug 94 05:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: culoth@randomwa.com.au. (Christoph Uloth) Subject: Re: PINE and Wyse-60 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 14:05:54 +0800 Message-Id: References: <32v084$9kl@gagme.wwa.com> In article <32v084$9kl@gagme.wwa.com>, greg@gagme.wwa.com (Gregory Gulik) wrote: > I have a customer who is using PINE on AIX machine with a bunch > of Wyse-60 terminals. > > It would seem that the Wyse-60's down arrow key sends a CTRL-J, > which PINE is interpreting as a CR, which doesn't do what they > expect. > > What solutions have people used to get PINE to work well > on a Wyse-60 terminal? Ahhh, the way I did it was to reprogram the down, up keys by sending the following sequences [Z+ --> up arrow [Z, --> down arrow this is from memory, but look in the wyse60 manual.... now, does anyone know the sequence to reprogramm a wyse50 which has the same problem? > > -- > Gregory Gulik greg@wwa.com http://gagme.wwa.com/~greg > Computing Engineers, Inc. Home of WorldWide Access (SM) > Data: +1 312 282 8605 +1 708 367 1871 Voice: +1 708 367 1870 > Info: info@wwa.com Support: support@wwa.com -- \|/ (@ @) ---------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo----------------------------------- ``` ''' "Always code as if the guy who ends up maintaining, or testing your code will be a violent psychopath who knows where you live." Christoph Uloth Systems Engineer Random Access Pty Ltd Phone: 61 09 221 4511 69 Adelaide Terrace Fax: 61 09 221 2527 Perth, Western Australia Email: culoth@randomwa.com.au. * My opinions, not Random Access's....suprised? * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 19 08:01:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26286; Fri, 19 Aug 94 08:01:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00560; Fri, 19 Aug 94 07:54:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00554; Fri, 19 Aug 94 07:53:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbV8L-00000PC; Fri, 19 Aug 94 07:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bruce Lilly Subject: Re: What is the number on the message-id line? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 12:04:32 UT References: <32fda2$b57@kelly.teleport.com> <1994Aug16.090652.5493@huxley.physiol.ox.ac.uk> In article <1994Aug16.090652.5493@huxley.physiol.ox.ac.uk>, posted to newsgroup comp.mail.pine, njh@physiol.ox.ac.uk (Neil Hoggarth) wrote: [ others have made similar comments ] >0155 - perhaps it was mailed at 01:55 GMT? That's one possibility. Unless the relevant part of the pine code has been changed since 3.07, it could have been generated at 01:xx:55, that is, the hours and seconds, but not minutes, are used to generate this part of the message id. It is possible, therefore, to have two messages with the same message id, posted on the same day within a one hour window, if the process ids wrap around within that time; unlikely but possible. -- Bruce Lilly, Product Manager, | Routers, Peripherals & Still Store,| uupsi!monymsys!sonyd1!bruce Sony, 3 Paragon Drive, Montvale, | lillyb@ccmail.nhq.sony.com NJ 07645-1735 | Telephone: +1 201 358 4161 | FAX: +1 201 358 4274 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 19 08:01:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26338; Fri, 19 Aug 94 08:01:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11090; Fri, 19 Aug 94 07:54:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mercury.bih.harvard.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11084; Fri, 19 Aug 94 07:54:33 -0700 Received: (from scott@localhost) by BIH Mail Handler (8.6.9/8.6.7) id KAA11470; Fri, 19 Aug 1994 10:56:08 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 10:56:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott McWilliams Subject: MIMEs from the Netherlands To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We're receiving MIME enclosures from a Pegasus-based site in the Netherlands which are not being recognized by Pine. David Miller was nice enough a few weeks ago to show me how to fix the headers so they would be recognized, but now the volume is picking up and one user is making demands. I'll copy a sample header below. Can someone point out either (1) some way to make them readable without handling them item-by-item; or (2) something I can send back to the Netherlands to have them do differently and make the recognizable by Pine; or (3) simply point out why 1&2 are not possible and another solution is needed? Thanks! ---------------Typical header from Netherlands---------------- >From originalperson@med.rug.nl Fri Aug 19 10:06:05 1994 Date: Tue, 02 Aug 1994 17:10:19 +0100 (MET) From: Personthere To: Personhere@hereplace Subject: subsidie aanvragen --Message-Boundary-28059 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-description: Information about this message. This message contains a file prepared for transmission using the MIME BASE64 transfer encoding scheme. If you are using Pegasus Mail or another MIME-compliant system, you should be able to extract it from within your mailer. If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for help. ---- File information ----------- File: IBDMAP15.TXT Date: 2 Aug 1994, 17:7 Size: 35046 bytes. Type: WordPerfect --Message-Boundary-28059 Content-type: Application/Octet-stream; name=IBDMAP15.TXT; type=WordPerfect Content-transfer-encoding: BASE64 ....................data was here............ --Message-Boundary-28059-- ------------------ - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------------------------------ | Scott A. McWilliams Internet: Scott_McWilliams@bih.harvard.edu | | Sysadmin, Postmaster | | | | Snail: Beth Israel Hospital | | Network Services | | Mail Stop BL-320 Vox: +1 617.735.5559 | | 330 Brookline Avenue Facs: +1 617.735.3966 | | Boston, Mass. 02215 | -------------------- - -Deinimid iarracht ni/os fearr!- - ------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 19 08:48:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27937; Fri, 19 Aug 94 08:48:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12043; Fri, 19 Aug 94 08:42:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12037; Fri, 19 Aug 94 08:42:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbVsg-00000aC; Fri, 19 Aug 94 08:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eks@vki68.aar-vki.dk (Eigil Krogh Sorensen) Subject: Re: PINE for SCO, Where? Date: 19 Aug 1994 12:11:49 GMT Message-Id: <3327i5$oj5@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> References: <31u9ef$g03@herald.indirect.com> Thus spake David L Miller : >soils.agron.iastate.edu Are the problems with CTRL-A's solved in that version (problem in IMAP I think). -- Eigil Krogh Sorensen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- VKI ! ! Water Quality Institute !Phone: !E-mail: Science Park Aarhus ! +45 86 20 20 00 or ! 10, Gustav Wieds Vej ! +45 86 20 20 11 local 2114 ! eks@aar-vki.dk DK-8000 Aarhus C !Fax: ! DENMARK. ! +45 86 19 75 11 ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >|\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 >|/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) >University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 >4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA >On 5 Aug 1994, Data Cal Corp. wrote: >> I would like to get a copy of PINE for SCO UNIX running MMDF. I would >> get sendmail running if I have to but mail now works to and from UUCP >> using MMDF. If you could please let me know where I cna get a copy of >> the bin files or the source so I cna compile it. Thanks >> >> David Allred >> DataCal corproation >> datacal@indirect.com >> davida@datacal.com >> tolar@netcom.com >> >> >> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 19 09:38:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00242; Fri, 19 Aug 94 09:38:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02569; Fri, 19 Aug 94 09:30:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02563; Fri, 19 Aug 94 09:30:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbWhR-00000PC; Fri, 19 Aug 94 09:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: PINE for SCO, Where? Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 08:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <31u9ef$g03@herald.indirect.com> <3327i5$oj5@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3327i5$oj5@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> I believe that version still has some problems. The version included with Pine 3.90 will be more robust. It should be available early next week. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 19 Aug 1994, Eigil Krogh Sorensen wrote: > Thus spake David L Miller : > > > >soils.agron.iastate.edu > > Are the problems with CTRL-A's solved in that version (problem in > IMAP I think). > > > > -- Eigil Krogh Sorensen > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > VKI ! ! > Water Quality Institute !Phone: !E-mail: > Science Park Aarhus ! +45 86 20 20 00 or ! > 10, Gustav Wieds Vej ! +45 86 20 20 11 local 2114 ! eks@aar-vki.dk > DK-8000 Aarhus C !Fax: ! > DENMARK. ! +45 86 19 75 11 ! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >|\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > >|/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > >University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > >4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > >On 5 Aug 1994, Data Cal Corp. wrote: > > >> I would like to get a copy of PINE for SCO UNIX running MMDF. I would > >> get sendmail running if I have to but mail now works to and from UUCP > >> using MMDF. If you could please let me know where I cna get a copy of > >> the bin files or the source so I cna compile it. Thanks > >> > >> David Allred > >> DataCal corproation > >> datacal@indirect.com > >> davida@datacal.com > >> tolar@netcom.com > >> > >> > >> > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 19 09:52:59 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00879; Fri, 19 Aug 94 09:52:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13533; Fri, 19 Aug 94 09:47:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13527; Fri, 19 Aug 94 09:47:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbWt4-00000PC; Fri, 19 Aug 94 09:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: PINE for SCO, Where? Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 15:46:15 GMT Message-Id: References: <31u9ef$g03@herald.indirect.com> <3327i5$oj5@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> Eigil Krogh Sorensen (eks@vki68.aar-vki.dk) wrote: : Thus spake David L Miller : : >soils.agron.iastate.edu : Are the problems with CTRL-A's solved in that version (problem in : IMAP I think). Depends on what you mean by the ^A problems. That they continue to exist at the end of every message, no, that hasn't been solved there. The soon- to-be-released Pine 3.90 (which compiles quite nicely on SCO systems) fixes this, largely by completely rewriting the MMDF handling routine. It's quite an improvement. The MMDF handling in 3.89 was much more of a hacked-up version of the bezerk module, with a bit to deal with the ^A^A^A^A before each message. The one after was ignored. Alas. However, if you're having other problems with ^A's, I can't tell you. If you can wait a week, wait for 3.90. As soon as it's available, I will be dropping a binary (and I promise to include man pages this time) on soils. It's worth the wait, if you ask me. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 19 10:24:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02012; Fri, 19 Aug 94 10:24:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03603; Fri, 19 Aug 94 10:16:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03597; Fri, 19 Aug 94 10:16:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbXLs-00000LC; Fri, 19 Aug 94 10:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Control: newgroup comp.mail.pine Subject: newgroup comp.mail.pine Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 16:35:23 GMT Message-Id: comp.mail.pine is an unmoderated newsgroup which passed its vote for creation by 421:19 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 20 May 1994. For your newsgroups file: comp.mail.pine The PINE mail user agent. The charter, culled from the call for votes: This group is for discussion about use and development of the Pine mail/news user agent developed by the University of Washington. Any Pine-related and Pine-specific discussion is acceptable, but general discussion regarding e.g. MIME or incoming-mail filters is referred to other, more appropriate newsgroups. The group is not moderated. To be made moderated, the same procedure should be followed as for the creation of a new group at that time. The group is bidirectionally gatewayed to the mailing list pine-info@cac.washington.edu. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 19 11:56:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06332; Fri, 19 Aug 94 11:56:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05680; Fri, 19 Aug 94 11:47:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from lipschitz.sfasu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05674; Fri, 19 Aug 94 11:47:44 -0700 Received: by lipschitz.sfasu.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA18357; Fri, 19 Aug 94 13:47:28 -0600 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 13:47:26 -0600 (GMT-0600) From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: sendmail alternatives To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How does a non-root user point pine at something besides sendmail? -- kc From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 19 12:05:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06939; Fri, 19 Aug 94 12:05:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16223; Fri, 19 Aug 94 11:57:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16217; Fri, 19 Aug 94 11:57:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbYyZ-00000PC; Fri, 19 Aug 94 11:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gbuffett@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Grant Buffett) Subject: unencoding... HELP!!! Date: 19 Aug 1994 17:43:12 GMT Message-Id: <332qvg$mfq@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> One of my friends sent me a program through the mail and it was encoded as text in my message. He told me to unencode it. I don't know how to do this. The program looks like a big mess on the screen. What can I do??? Please reply ASAP!!! Thank you very much Grant Buffett From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 19 12:54:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08738; Fri, 19 Aug 94 12:54:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17364; Fri, 19 Aug 94 12:49:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17358; Fri, 19 Aug 94 12:49:31 -0700 Received: from gnofn.ucc.uno.edu by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01542; Fri, 19 Aug 94 12:49:30 -0700 Received: by gnofn.ucc.uno.edu. (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA00965; Fri, 19 Aug 1994 14:49:02 +0600 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 14:49:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Jessica Bray LLE Subject: www To: Pine list Cc: nrrmc@uno.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 98 Has anyone interfaced WWW and Pine mail? jbray Jessica Bray GNO Free-Net jbray@gnofn.ucc.uno.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 19 13:54:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11958; Fri, 19 Aug 94 13:54:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08513; Fri, 19 Aug 94 13:49:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from faxon.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08504; Fri, 19 Aug 94 13:49:20 -0700 Received: by faxon.ca (5.4R2.01/192.139.186.253) id AA02335; Fri, 19 Aug 1994 16:48:13 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 15:39:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Dion Vansevenant Subject: Pine and newsreading To: Pine Messages Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ok, now I understand that Pine offers *some* support for reading news, but looking through the docs has not enlightened me enough. I'm running DG/UX 5.4.201 and pine 3.86. I've just managed to get Procmail to sort my mail into various incoming mailboxes and even have the system tell me which mailbox has just received mail (most of the time). Now I want to be able to at least *read* news from wherever it is that people read their news. My system does not have its own news-reader (I've tried, thus far unsuccessfully, to get one working) so I would like to hear from other DG/UX users who *do* have a newsreader running and linked in with Pine. Please note that while I am the SysAdmin, I'm a new one. Our VAR did not give us much training on the system besides "Here's how you login, here's vi.." While I have taken DG's SysAdmin course, it doesn't help much in this case. I would greatly appreciate any help that could be provided asap as there is information out there that I need to retrieve and the person who saw it won't tell us where they saw it. (Separate matter, no need for more detail at present) TIA Dion *----------------------------------------------* | Dion Vansevenant stu2@faxon.ca | | Systems Administrator | | Faxon/SMS Canada Ltd. (519) 472-1006 voice | | P.O. Box 2382 (519) 472-1072 fax | | London, ON | | Canada N6A 5A7 | *----------------------------------------------* If you don't change your direction - you're bound to end up where you're headed. - Chinese Proverb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 19 14:45:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13969; Fri, 19 Aug 94 14:45:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19610; Fri, 19 Aug 94 14:41:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19592; Fri, 19 Aug 94 14:40:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbbNE-00000LC; Fri, 19 Aug 94 14:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: weslager@me.udel.edu (Clint) Subject: Pine on a Pyramid Date: 19 Aug 1994 19:09:31 GMT Message-Id: <33301b$btv@news.udel.edu> i was just wondering if anyone had any luck in compliling pine for any pyramids? thanks for any assistance, Clint From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 19 16:23:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18324; Fri, 19 Aug 94 16:23:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13399; Fri, 19 Aug 94 16:17:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from lipschitz.sfasu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13391; Fri, 19 Aug 94 16:17:24 -0700 Received: by lipschitz.sfasu.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA18872; Fri, 19 Aug 94 18:17:07 -0600 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 18:17:06 -0600 (GMT-0600) From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Reply-To: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: status of encryption? To: Pine list In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII What's the status of encryption? I'm building a script that provides pgp encryption to Pine. Send your public key, with a solemn promise not to laugh at the code, to deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu if you want it. -- kc Here's the blurb: (1) Extract and install mkpgp. At your Unix prompt, run the command: uudecode NameOfTheFileYouArePresentlyReading An executable script, mkpgp, will be extracted. Move the the script into a directory on your path. One such dir is usually "bin" in your home directory. Examine the leading names of your path variable if you are unsure. In the unlikely event that you don't have access to a dir for executables, see * below. Run the Unix command rehash *or* logout and login. Either of these will make your system "aware" of the new command "mkpgp." (2) Configure Pine for mkpgp. Edit .pinerc. Set the alternate editor to mkpgp: # Editor to use in place of Pine's internal composer, Pico editor=mkpgp * Or use an absolute path. E.g., editor=/yourHomeDir/mkpgp Force Pine to put your signature at the bottom: # Use old style forward/reply with new text and signature below included text # Old-style-reply is obsolete, use signature-at-bottom in feature-list old-style-reply=yes [...] # The feature-list that is in effect when you are running Pine [...] # of the features is no-, that is, off. feature-list=old-growth, signature-at-bottom (3) Configure mkpgp At present, there are only two configuration options in mkpgp. Edit mkpgp and change lines 3 or 5 if appropriate. #!/bin/csh -f # Set the real alternate editor on the next line. set MKPGPEDITOR=pico # Determine if sender can read encrypted messages. set ENCRYPTTOSELF=on (4) Usage. My first axiom: I detest pecking on keyboards... ========== Encryption ========== Compose a message. (a) If you don't use pico, invoke the alternate editor then compose. (b) If you do use pico, compose then invoke the alternate editor. When you (a) exit your editor or (b) invoke the alternate editor, mkpgp will ask: Include encrypted attachment(s)? [n] At every prompt, simply hit the key if you want what's in []. (This can be important; don't give mkpgp needless input. Remember my first axiom.) Enter y and hit if you want to include attachments in the message text (thereby encrypting them). A primitive browser will let you navigate the file system and attach files and dirs. You select attachments by number. Hit on a blank line to move up one directory. Selecting a single directory is ambiguous (since you are navigating the directories with the same browser), so you are further prompted to "Enter or Attach? [e]" it. Hit to enter, enter a and hit to attach it. If a directory is a member of a list, mkpgp assumes it is an attachment. After collecting all the attachments, enter f and hit . $PGPPATH/tmp/mkpgpAttach is listed and you are a given a chance edit it. If you elect to do so, mkpgp will cd to $PGPPATH/tmp/mkpgpAttach and start a /bin/csh. Do what you will, and use the csh command "exit" to return to mkpgp. mkpgp copies attachments into $PGPPATH/tmp/mkpgpAttach. When you exit the browser, $PGPPATH/tmp/mkpgpAttach is tar'ed, compress, uuencoded and appended to the message text as ascii. $PGPPATH/tmp/mkpgpAttach is then removed. Next, pgp will show your pubkey ring and mkpgp will ask: Enter recipient key id(s) [none]. List the recipient key id(s) separated by blanks, or hit if you don't want to encrypt the message. pgp will show your seckey ring and mkpgp will ask: Sign the message with a secret key? [n] y selects the key defined by MyName in $PGPPATH/config.txt. You can select an alternate by giving a keyid (If you enter n, mkpgp will look for a key with n in it. Bad news... Remember the first axiom. Also, beware of the ENCRYPTTOSELF option if you select an alternate key.) If you elect to sign the message, pgp will request a pass phrase. pgp goes to work on the message. There is a 5 second delay when pgp is finished so you can see what happened. After that you should be looking at the message in the Pine compose window. Send it. If ENCRYPTTOSELF=on, you can decrypt the copy of the message in sent-mail. If ENCRYPTTOSELF=off and you didn't include yourself as a recipient, you might as well delete it. The actual pgp commands/options used by mkpgp are: pgp -sew +encrypttoself=$ENCRYPTTOSELF +armor=on +keepbinary=off \ +armorlines=0 +tmp=$PGPPATH/tmp $1 $keys $sign pgp -satw +clearsig=on +encrypttoself=$ENCRYPTTOSELF +keepbinary=off \ +tmp=$PGPPATH/tmp $1 $sign or pgp -ew +encrypttoself=$ENCRYPTTOSELF +armor=on +keepbinary=off \ +armorlines=0 +tmp=$PGPPATH/tmp $1 $keys $1 is /tmp/pico.xxxx, $keys is the list of keys, $sign is the key id used to sign the message. There are several other calls to pgp to wipe and delete temporary files. ========== Decryption ========== The only way to decrypt in pine is in a reply or forward since that is your only access to the alternate editor. Decryption seems to work ok in a forward; replies are still flakey because of the variety of quote characters people use (I'll fix this when I have time). If mkpgp finds "BEGIN PGP MESSAGE" or "BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE" in the message, it will run the command: pgp +force +interactive=on +keepbinary=off and attempt to mimic the forward/reply behavior of Pine. If, along the way, begin 600 mkpgpAttach.tar.Z is found in the message text, mkpgp will unpack the attachments and move the mkpgpAttach directory into $PGPPATH (renaming it if needed). The mkpgpAttach.tar.Z file is wiped & deleted. You are given a chance to examine/delete the attachments (exiting the c-shell as before). If mkpgp finds "BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK" mkpgp runs pgp +force +interactive=on +keepbinary=off to add keys. This only works in a forward and attachments aren't unpacked. (It's easy to fix, I just haven't done it yet. It was an afterthought). Let me know how it goes. I'm open to input, but I want to keep it simple. Contact me again if you want the updates. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 19 16:36:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18867; Fri, 19 Aug 94 16:36:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13674; Fri, 19 Aug 94 16:31:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13668; Fri, 19 Aug 94 16:31:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbd85-00000LC; Fri, 19 Aug 94 16:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Reading compressed files Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 13:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <332ipg$lf1@gecko.mrj.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <332ipg$lf1@gecko.mrj.com> It should be reasonably easy to add a compressed folder driver to Pine (c-client actually), perhaps as little as a few dozen lines of code. Contact c-client@cac.washington.edu if you would like some pointers getting started... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 19 Aug 1994, Ken Mayer wrote: > I was wondering how difficult would it be to extend pine to be able to > read compressed mail folders? I have a lot mail that I need to keep around, > but rarely read. It would be great if I could gzip them down and when I > needed to, pine would automatically gunzip them for me. > > Ken > > -- > -- > Ken Mayer > MRJ, Inc. (703) 385-0722 > 10455 White Granite Drive (703) 385-4637 fax > Oakton, Virginia 22124 kmayer@mrj.com > USA "OOP S&M: Drag me. Drop me. Treat me like an object." > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 19 19:27:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23788; Fri, 19 Aug 94 19:27:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25370; Fri, 19 Aug 94 19:21:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25364; Fri, 19 Aug 94 19:21:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbflS-00000IC; Fri, 19 Aug 94 19:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kmayer@gecko.mrj.com (Ken Mayer) Subject: Reading compressed files Date: 19 Aug 1994 11:23:28 -0400 Message-Id: <332ipg$lf1@gecko.mrj.com> I was wondering how difficult would it be to extend pine to be able to read compressed mail folders? I have a lot mail that I need to keep around, but rarely read. It would be great if I could gzip them down and when I needed to, pine would automatically gunzip them for me. Ken -- -- Ken Mayer MRJ, Inc. (703) 385-0722 10455 White Granite Drive (703) 385-4637 fax Oakton, Virginia 22124 kmayer@mrj.com USA "OOP S&M: Drag me. Drop me. Treat me like an object." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 19 20:47:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25097; Fri, 19 Aug 94 20:47:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17531; Fri, 19 Aug 94 20:42:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17525; Fri, 19 Aug 94 20:42:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbh4P-00000IC; Fri, 19 Aug 94 20:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: n7044623@rowlf.cc.wwu.edu (Gary Burlingame) Subject: Re: Reading compressed files Message-Id: References: <332ipg$lf1@gecko.mrj.com> Date: 20 Aug 94 00:56:12 GMT David L Miller writes: >It should be reasonably easy to add a compressed folder driver to Pine >(c-client actually), perhaps as little as a few dozen lines of code. Contact >c-client@cac.washington.edu if you would like some pointers getting >started... Are you kidding? Do you know how many people would LOVE to have this? >On 19 Aug 1994, Ken Mayer wrote: >> I was wondering how difficult would it be to extend pine to be able to >> read compressed mail folders? I have a lot mail that I need to keep around, >> but rarely read. It would be great if I could gzip them down and when I >> needed to, pine would automatically gunzip them for me. >> >> Ken >> >> -- >> -- >> Ken Mayer >> MRJ, Inc. (703) 385-0722 >> 10455 White Granite Drive (703) 385-4637 fax >> Oakton, Virginia 22124 kmayer@mrj.com >> USA "OOP S&M: Drag me. Drop me. Treat me like an object." >> >> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 19 21:12:13 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25609; Fri, 19 Aug 94 21:12:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26570; Fri, 19 Aug 94 21:06:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26564; Fri, 19 Aug 94 21:06:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbhRg-00000IC; Fri, 19 Aug 94 20:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Scott Subject: Pine/gzipped for SCO Date: Sat, 20 Aug 94 13:31:11 PDT Message-Id: <333n3b$t8q@news.midland.co.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks to the person who told me I could find Pine for SCO by ftp at soils.agron.iastate.edu All the files have been compressed with gzip (ie have an extention of .gz). I am not familiar with this compression program. Can someone please tell me what I need to unzip the files. Also once I have unzipped the programs I am not sure of what steps I need to follow to get it up and running. If anyone has experience of doing this in SCO then can they please provide a simple step by step list. Thanks in advance Peter Scott peter@h_yellow.co.nz From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 20 00:21:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28515; Sat, 20 Aug 94 00:21:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20224; Sat, 20 Aug 94 00:09:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20218; Sat, 20 Aug 94 00:09:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbkHI-00000PC; Fri, 19 Aug 94 23:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: www Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 21:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: What kind of interface are you looking for? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 19 Aug 1994, Jessica Bray LLE wrote: > Has anyone interfaced WWW and Pine mail? > jbray > Jessica Bray > GNO Free-Net > jbray@gnofn.ucc.uno.edu > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 20 01:05:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29629; Sat, 20 Aug 94 01:05:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29250; Sat, 20 Aug 94 00:52:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29244; Sat, 20 Aug 94 00:52:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbkvX-00000IC; Sat, 20 Aug 94 00:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sgifford@impact.flint.umich.edu (Scott Gifford) Subject: Using the Composer for news Date: 20 Aug 1994 07:31:56 GMT Message-Id: <334bhcINNc0s@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> I really like Pine's composer interface for mail, and would like to modify it to work with UseNet news, with headers like Newsgroups up at the top instead of To, etc. I've managed to get parts of it working, but as I get deeper and deeper in it's getting more and more confusing and hacked...Has anybody already done any work like this? Or is there some good documentation of how the composer interface works? Thanks, ------Scott. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 20 02:06:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01122; Sat, 20 Aug 94 02:06:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21689; Sat, 20 Aug 94 02:02:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21683; Sat, 20 Aug 94 02:02:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbm32-00000IC; Sat, 20 Aug 94 01:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kenth@hns.st-louis.mo.US (Kent Hamilton) Subject: Re: Pine on SCO used wrong date Date: 20 Aug 1994 00:28:34 -0500 Message-Id: <3344a2$nh1@gwydion.hns.st-louis.mo.US> References: <32602s$776@cyberspace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article , Gunther Anderson wrote: >Steve Miller (smiller@cyberspace.net) wrote: >: When I send mail using pine on SCO Rel 3.2 Ver 4.2 it sends the wrong date. >: The date is always February 23, 1970. > >That's my port, and I'm running 3.2v4.2 here. I can't say what's up with >the date. The system date is OK, right? Make sure you have a TZ variable in your environment. I've seen some flakey things happen on SCO if you don't. >: On another system running SCO Unix Rel 3.2 Ver 2.0 pine aborts when trying >: to start it up. > >: Anyone experienced these problems before? > >Someone once mentioned that to me. Do you remember what the error was? >In a sense, though, this isn't an ODT port, so some problem are possible >if I inadvertantly used any non-ODT functions. Or, if you don't mean >ODT, and this is really a 2.0 version, ye gods, that's old. I had this >built with the latest TCP/IP and development system. Who knows what >might have changed since then. Uhhh, the networking libraries are totally different between v2.0t and v4.x like there is no libnsl_s.a in 2.0 so if you linked Pine using that on a newer system then forget it. I'm not sure what's going to happen if you try an lstat() (Does pine use it? I didn't look at the source.) on a 2.0 system but a core dump would be my bet. Same thing applies to several other library changes. I'd guess you'd be hard pressed to get it working on 2.0 without re-writing the port. I have to maintain both 4.x and 2.0 systems and I'm to the point I actually have a -DSCO324 or -DSCO322 defined in the gcc spec file for the various systems.... -- Kent Hamilton | Home: kenth@hns.st-louis.mo.US Senior Systems Administrator | Work: Kent.Hamilton@scscom.COM SCS/Compute, Inc. | Phone: (314) 997-7766 ext 3070 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 20 02:09:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01189; Sat, 20 Aug 94 02:09:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00330; Sat, 20 Aug 94 02:06:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00324; Sat, 20 Aug 94 02:06:38 -0700 Received: from slip060.csc.cuhk.hk by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14343; Sat, 20 Aug 94 02:06:30 -0700 Received: by keith (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) with SMTP id m0qbmNX-0001bpC; Sat, 20 Aug 94 17:06 HKT Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 17:06:19 +0000 From: Keith K Chau Subject: PINE doesn't read the timezone info To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! I am running PINE 3.89 under Linux (Slackware distribution)... it seems that PINE doesn't even read the timezone info from the system and out-going messages always bear "+0000". (as you may probably see now :) Any help is appreciated. Keith From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 20 04:52:54 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04621; Sat, 20 Aug 94 04:52:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02323; Sat, 20 Aug 94 04:48:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02313; Sat, 20 Aug 94 04:48:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qboYd-00000wC; Sat, 20 Aug 94 04:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lance@rahul.net (Lance K. Chun) Subject: Re: www Message-Id: References: Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 10:56:51 GMT In article , jbray@gnofn.ucc.uno.edu (Jessica Bray LLE) wrote: > Has anyone interfaced WWW and Pine mail? > jbray > Jessica Bray > GNO Free-Net > jbray@gnofn.ucc.uno.edu Jessica, Why would you want to do that? It doesn't make any sense. Lance From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 20 08:08:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07960; Sat, 20 Aug 94 08:08:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25934; Sat, 20 Aug 94 08:03:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25928; Sat, 20 Aug 94 08:03:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbrbE-00000IC; Sat, 20 Aug 94 07:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Cornelius Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 and Linux Date: 20 Aug 1994 14:39:12 GMT Message-Id: <3354ig$db7@mercury.dur.ac.uk> References: Kenny Wickstrom (wickstro@ttd.teradyne.com) wrote: : On Sun, 14 Aug 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote: : > If I understand correctly, some 3rd-party person ported Pine 3.89 to : > Linux when it was release. I am curious as to if 3.90 will work with : > Linux right out of the box or if use Linux people will have to wait for : > somebody to port it? : I use pine 3.89 on a linux machine at home with no special port. I have : used the same source and re-built for SunOS 4.1.3, HP-UX 8.0 and linux : kernel 99.14 without any problems. The linux distribution I use is : debian and it came with elm. The file doc/pine-ports in the Pine 3.89 distribution contains the text: : lnx --- Linux 0.99.11 : This is based on an original port of Pine 3.05 by Birko Bergt : . This port has only been lightly : tested. So, when Pine 3.90 comes out, try: build lnx -- Barry Cornelius Telephone: (0191 or +44 191) 374 4717 IT Service, Science Site, IT Service Office: (0191 or +44 191) 374 2892 University of Durham, Fax: (0191 or +44 191) 374 3741 Durham, DH1 3LE, UK E-mail: Barry.Cornelius@durham.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 20 08:58:23 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08676; Sat, 20 Aug 94 08:58:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05023; Sat, 20 Aug 94 08:53:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05017; Sat, 20 Aug 94 08:53:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbsPW-00000IC; Sat, 20 Aug 94 08:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ralphs@halcyon.halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) Subject: Re: Using the Composer for news Date: 20 Aug 1994 14:19:37 GMT Message-Id: <3353dp$s4v@news.halcyon.com> References: <334bhcINNc0s@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> sgifford@impact.flint.umich.edu (Scott Gifford) writes: > I really like Pine's composer interface for mail, and would like to >modify it to work with UseNet news, with headers like Newsgroups up at >the top instead of To, etc. I've managed to get parts of it working, but >as I get deeper and deeper in it's getting more and more confusing and >hacked...Has anybody already done any work like this? Or is there some >good documentation of how the composer interface works? Are you speaking of using PICO as the 'composer'? I replaced the visual editor pointers in the various newsreader's source code with pico and it's working fine. I wrapped pico in a little shell script to work with the temp files (pico -n if memory serves), and all's well. The downside is that more folks are posting to usenet now. :) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 20 09:01:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08771; Sat, 20 Aug 94 09:01:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05084; Sat, 20 Aug 94 08:58:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from bb-prg.eunet.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05078; Sat, 20 Aug 94 08:58:40 -0700 Received: from zce.zce.cz by bb-prg.eunet.cz with UUCP id AA19143 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Sat, 20 Aug 1994 17:58:53 +0200 Received: by zce.zce.cz id AA03323 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Sat, 20 Aug 1994 17:55:41 +0200 Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 17:55:40 +0200 (MET DST) From: Smucr Jaroslav Subject: comp.mail.pine - a new subsriber To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I would like to subscribe your mailing list comp.mail.pine. What shall I do? Thanks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jaroslav Smucr Zapadoceska energetika, a.s. e-mail: smucrj@zce.cz IT department Phone : +42-19-2160 288 Sladkovskeho 71, 301 44 Plzen Fax : +42-19-2160 509 The Czech Republic, Europe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 20 10:58:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10552; Sat, 20 Aug 94 10:58:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06378; Sat, 20 Aug 94 10:54:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06372; Sat, 20 Aug 94 10:53:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbuFy-00000QC; Sat, 20 Aug 94 10:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: byrgb@millkern.digex.net (Byrg Bonnelycke) Subject: pine listserver? Date: 20 Aug 1994 17:10:52 GMT Message-Id: <335des$r63@news1.digex.net> Steve: Thanx! It worked fine; I'm now a member. Thanx, Byrg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 20 10:59:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10589; Sat, 20 Aug 94 10:59:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27788; Sat, 20 Aug 94 10:53:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27782; Sat, 20 Aug 94 10:53:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbuFn-00000IC; Sat, 20 Aug 94 10:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cxn@xmission.com (Christian X Nielsen) Subject: Re: www Date: 20 Aug 1994 11:26:03 -0600 Message-Id: <335ebb$mel@xmission.xmission.com> References: That is true, pine would not work or should not work with getting WWW docs. If you have pine, and are on a UNIX machine, you can probally already get and look up inforamtion using the WWW. Just type lynx http://....... and see if it works. cxn -- Christian X Nielsen cxn@xmission.com http://xmission.com/~cxn For information on Travel (Updated everyday with new information) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 20 12:09:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11542; Sat, 20 Aug 94 12:09:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28554; Sat, 20 Aug 94 12:04:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28548; Sat, 20 Aug 94 12:04:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qbvJj-00000IC; Sat, 20 Aug 94 11:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mhotti@paju.oulu.fi (Marko Hotti) Subject: Scanning filtered mail and making a summary Date: 20 Aug 1994 18:21:41 GMT Message-Id: <335hjl$48k@ousrvr.oulu.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'd like to run a script in the beginning of every session which scans specified folders in ~/Mail -directory for unread mail. I'm using 'filter' in my .forward file to redirect incoming mail from mailing lists to respective folders. I *do know* that I can use 'filter -s' to get a filter activity summary but the output is not what I'm lookin for. I'd like to get information like this: STATUS OF INCOMING FOLDERS: =========================== Folder name: Total: Unread: ------------------------------- mailing-list1 20 3 mailing-list2 35 6 mailing-list3 5 0 ...etc. You got the idea? The output does not have to be exactly like this but the information I need should be in tiny column format since there are about 20 mailing list folders. I guess this could be achieved by using perl or something. I wonder if there are ready packages for doing these kind of summaries???? Thanx! -=Marko=- -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Marko Hotti University of Oulu Faculty of Medicine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 20 12:47:59 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12205; Sat, 20 Aug 94 12:47:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07465; Sat, 20 Aug 94 12:37:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ousrvr.oulu.fi by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07459; Sat, 20 Aug 94 12:37:29 -0700 Received: from paju.oulu.fi by oulu.fi (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04825; Sat, 20 Aug 94 22:37:27 +0300 Received: by paju.oulu.fi (931110.SGI/930416.SGI.AUTO) for @ousrvr.oulu.fi:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA06937; Sat, 20 Aug 94 22:37:26 +0300 Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 22:37:22 +0300 (EDT) From: "M. Hotti" Subject: Scan folders -question... To: Pine-Info Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm sorry guys... I didn't realise that all the postings made to the group 'comp.mail.pine' are echoed to the pine-info list... Anyway, even though my question doesn't involve Pine at all, I'd be happy to find an answer to the problem. -Marko- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Marko Hotti University of Oulu Faculty of Medicine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 20 15:09:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14298; Sat, 20 Aug 94 15:09:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00648; Sat, 20 Aug 94 15:00:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uenics.evansville.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00642; Sat, 20 Aug 94 15:00:40 -0700 Received: from revival.evansville.edu by uenics.evansville.edu with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #2) id m0qbySo-000txMC; Sat, 20 Aug 94 17:00 CDT Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 16:59:55 +0100 From: Patrick Heck Subject: Re: Scanning filtered mail and making a summary To: Marko Hotti Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <335hjl$48k@ousrvr.oulu.fi> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1010801439-1843350096-777419995:#106" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---1010801439-1843350096-777419995:#106 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 20 Aug 1994, Marko Hotti wrote: > I'd like to run a script in the beginning of every session which > scans specified folders in ~/Mail -directory for unread mail. I'm > using 'filter' in my .forward file to redirect incoming mail from > mailing lists to respective folders. I *do know* that I can use > 'filter -s' to get a filter activity summary but the output is not > what I'm lookin for. I'd like to get information like this: > > STATUS OF INCOMING FOLDERS: > =========================== > > Folder name: Total: Unread: > ------------------------------- > mailing-list1 20 3 > mailing-list2 35 6 > mailing-list3 5 0 > ...etc. > > You got the idea? The output does not have to be exactly like this > but the information I need should be in tiny column format since there > are about 20 mailing list folders. A couple of months ago I wrote a quick-and-dirty C program that should work in most Unix environments. I've included it and a man page as attachments. It doesn't print exactly what you are looking for, but it may be close enough. It checks for unread mail in mail folders and prints out lines as in Unread mail in /usr/spool/mail/heck Unread mail in Mail/Chatter ... Nothing is printed out for folders that do not have any unread mail. It should be fairly easy to modify the code to print other relevant information. Pat Heck University of Evansville heck@evansville.edu Office: (812) 479-2193 Home: (812) 477-9873 ---1010801439-1843350096-777419995:#106 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="mailcheck.c" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: I2luY2x1ZGUgPHN0ZGlvLmg+DQojaW5jbHVkZSA8c3RyaW5nLmg+DQojaW5j bHVkZSA8cHdkLmg+DQoNCiNkZWZpbmUgVFJVRSAgIDENCiNkZWZpbmUgRkFM U0UgIDANCg0KRklMRSAqZnBfY3VyZm9sZGVyOyAgICAvKiBjdXJyZW50IG1h aWwgZm9sZGVyIGJlaW5nIGNoZWNrZWQgKi8NCkZJTEUgKmZwX21haWxjaGVj azsNCg0KY2hhciBsb2duYW1lWzEwMF07DQpzdHJ1Y3QgcGFzc3dkICpwd2Vu dHJ5Ow0KDQppbnQgbWFpbihpbnQgYXJnYywgY2hhciAqKmFyZ3YpDQp7DQog ICAgY2hhciBsb2duYW1lWzE1XTsNCiAgICBpbnQgaTsNCiAgICBpbnQgbnVt X3VucmVhZF9mb2xkZXJzID0gLTE7DQogICAgY2hhciBmb2xkZXJbMjBdWzUw XTsNCiAgICBjaGFyIG9yaWdfbmFtZVsxMDAwXTsNCiAgICBjaGFyIGN1cmZv bGRlclsxMDAwXTsNCiAgICBjaGFyIG1haWxjaGVja1sxMDAwXTsgICAgICAN CiAgICBjaGFyIGxpbmVbMTAwMF07DQoNCiAgICBpZiAoY3VzZXJpZChsb2du YW1lKT09TlVMTCkgew0KCWZwcmludGYoc3RkZXJyLCIlczogQ2FuJ3QgZGV0 ZXJtaW5lIHdobyB5b3UgYXJlLiIsYXJndlswXSk7DQoJcmV0dXJuIDE7DQog ICAgfQ0KICAgIGlmICgocHdlbnRyeT1nZXRwd25hbShsb2duYW1lKSk9PU5V TEwpIHsNCglmcHJpbnRmKHN0ZGVyciwiJXM6IENhbid0IGFjY2VzcyAvZXRj L3Bhc3N3ZCBpbmZvcm1hdGlvbi4iLGFyZ3ZbMF0pOw0KCXJldHVybiAxOw0K ICAgIH0NCg0KICAgIC8qKiBjcmVhdGUgZmlsZSBuYW1lIGZvciAubWFpbGNo ZWNrICovDQogICAgc3RyY2F0KHN0cmNweShtYWlsY2hlY2sscHdlbnRyeS0+ cHdfZGlyKSwiLy5tYWlsY2hlY2siKTsNCiAgICBpZiAoKGZwX21haWxjaGVj ayA9IGZvcGVuKG1haWxjaGVjaywiciIpKT09TlVMTCkgew0KCWZwcmludGYo c3RkZXJyLCIlczogVW5hYmxlIHRvIGFjY2VzcyAnLm1haWxjaGVjaycgZmls ZS5cbiIsYXJndlswXSk7DQoJcmV0dXJuIDE7DQogICAgfQ0KDQogICAgd2hp bGUgKCFmZW9mKGZwX21haWxjaGVjaykpDQogICAgew0KCWN1cmZvbGRlclsw XSA9ICdcMCc7DQoJZmdldHMoY3VyZm9sZGVyLCAxMDAsIGZwX21haWxjaGVj ayk7DQoJaWYgKGN1cmZvbGRlclswXSA9PSAnXDAnKQ0KCSAgICBjb250aW51 ZTsNCgkvKiBnZXQgcmlkIG9mIG5ld2xpbmUgY2hhcmFjdGVyIChpZiBleGlz dHMpICovDQoJZm9yIChpPTA7IGN1cmZvbGRlcltpXSAhPSAnXDAnOyBpKysp DQoJew0KCSAgICBpZiAoY3VyZm9sZGVyW2ldID09ICdcbicpDQoJCWN1cmZv bGRlcltpXSA9ICdcMCc7DQoJfQ0KCXN0cmNweShvcmlnX25hbWUsY3VyZm9s ZGVyKTsgIC8qIHNhdmUgbmFtZSBmb3IgbWVzc2FnZSAqLw0KCWlmIChjdXJm b2xkZXJbMF0gIT0gJy8nKSAgLyogdGhlbiBuZWVkIHRvIHByZXBlbmQgaG9t ZSBkaXIgKi8NCgl7DQoJICAgIHN0cmNweShsaW5lLGN1cmZvbGRlcik7DQoJ ICAgIHN0cmNhdChzdHJjYXQoc3RyY3B5KGN1cmZvbGRlcixwd2VudHJ5LT5w d19kaXIpLCIvIiksbGluZSk7DQoJfQ0KLyoJcHJpbnRmKCJDaGVja2luZyAl c1xuIixjdXJmb2xkZXIpOyAqLw0KCWlmICgoZnBfY3VyZm9sZGVyID0gZm9w ZW4oY3VyZm9sZGVyLCJyIikpICE9IE5VTEwpDQoJew0KCSAgICBpZiAodW5y ZWFkbWFpbChmcF9jdXJmb2xkZXIpKQ0KCSAgICB7DQoJCW51bV91bnJlYWRf Zm9sZGVycysrOw0KCQlzdHJjcHkoZm9sZGVyW251bV91bnJlYWRfZm9sZGVy c10sb3JpZ19uYW1lKTsNCgkgICAgfQ0KCSAgICBmY2xvc2UoZnBfY3VyZm9s ZGVyKTsNCgl9DQogICAgfQ0KICAgIGlmIChudW1fdW5yZWFkX2ZvbGRlcnMg PiAtMSkNCiAgICB7DQoJZm9yIChpPTA7IGk8PW51bV91bnJlYWRfZm9sZGVy czsgaSsrKQ0KCXsNCgkgICAgcHJpbnRmKCJVbnJlYWQgbWFpbCBpbiAlc1xu Iixmb2xkZXJbaV0pOw0KCX0NCiAgICB9DQp9DQoNCg0KaW50IHVucmVhZG1h aWwoRklMRSAqZnBfY3VyZm9sZGVyKQ0Kew0KICAgIGNoYXIgbGluZVsxMDAx XTsNCiAgICB3aGlsZSAoIWZlb2YoZnBfY3VyZm9sZGVyKSkNCiAgICB7DQoJ ZmdldHMobGluZSwgMTAwMCwgZnBfY3VyZm9sZGVyKTsNCglpZiAoIXN0cm5j bXAobGluZSwiRnJvbSAiLCA1KSkNCgl7DQovKgkgICAgcHJpbnRmKCIlcyIs bGluZSk7ICovDQoJICAgIHdoaWxlICgxKQ0KCSAgICB7DQoJCWZnZXRzKGxp bmUsIDEwMDAsIGZwX2N1cmZvbGRlcik7DQovKgkJcHJpbnRmKCIlcyIsbGlu ZSk7ICovDQoJCWlmICghc3RyY21wKGxpbmUsIlxuIikpDQoJCSAgICByZXR1 cm4gVFJVRTsNCgkJaWYgKCFzdHJuY21wKGxpbmUsIlN0YXR1czogUiIsIDkp KQ0KCQkgICAgYnJlYWs7DQoJCWlmICghc3RybmNtcChsaW5lLCJTdGF0dXM6 ICIsIDgpKQ0KCQkgICAgcmV0dXJuIFRSVUU7DQoJICAgIH0NCgl9DQogICAg fQ0KICAgIHJldHVybiBGQUxTRTsNCn0NCg== ---1010801439-1843350096-777419995:#106 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; 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Sat, 20 Aug 94 18:29:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03068; Sat, 20 Aug 94 18:24:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03062; Sat, 20 Aug 94 18:24:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qc1Kj-00000LC; Sat, 20 Aug 94 18:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eggert@twinsun.com (Paul Eggert) Subject: Re: PINE doesn't read the timezone info Message-Id: References: Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 00:16:54 GMT kwchau@cs.cuhk.hk (Keith K Chau) writes: > I am running PINE 3.89 under Linux (Slackware distribution)... it seems > that PINE doesn't even read the timezone info from the system and > out-going messages always bear "+0000". (as you may probably see now :) Most likely your pine wasn't properly configured for Linux, and is using the wrong definition of rfc822_date. Try using the following definition of rfc822_date instead. It would simplify porting if imap used the following code, which is more portable (though a tiny bit less efficient) than the zillions of rfc822_date variants that come with the imap distribution. #include #include char *months[] = {"Jan", "Feb", "Mar", "Apr", "May", "Jun", "Jul", "Aug", "Sep", "Oct", "Nov", "Dec"}; char *days[] = {"Sun", "Mon", "Tue", "Wed", "Thu", "Fri", "Sat"}; #define TM_YEAR_ORIGIN 1900 /* Return difference between a and b, in minutes (ignoring seconds). */ static time_t difftm(a, b) struct tm *a, *b; { int ay = a->tm_year + (TM_YEAR_ORIGIN - 1); int by = b->tm_year + (TM_YEAR_ORIGIN - 1); return ( ( /* difference in day of year */ a->tm_yday - b->tm_yday /* + intervening leap days */ + ((ay >> 2) - (by >> 2)) - (ay/100 - by/100) + ((ay/100 >> 2) - (by/100 >> 2)) /* + difference in years * 365 */ + (time_t)(ay-by) * 365 )*24 + (a->tm_hour - b->tm_hour) )*60 + (a->tm_min - b->tm_min); } /* Write current time in RFC 822 format * Accepts: destination string */ void rfc822_date (date) char *date; { time_t time_sec = time (0); struct tm gm, *t; int zone, signzone, abszone; gm = *gmtime (&time_sec); t = localtime (&time_sec); zone = difftm (t, &gm); signzone = zone < 0 ? '-' : '+'; abszone = abs (zone); sprintf (date, "%s, %d %s %d %02d:%02d:%02d %c%02d%02d", days[t->tm_wday], t->tm_mday, months[t->tm_mon], t->tm_year + TM_YEAR_ORIGIN, t->tm_hour, t->tm_min, t->tm_sec, signzone, abszone/60, abszone%60); } From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 20 19:34:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18831; Sat, 20 Aug 94 19:34:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03743; Sat, 20 Aug 94 19:30:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03737; Sat, 20 Aug 94 19:30:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qc2NM-00000bC; Sat, 20 Aug 94 19:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bchann@cs.mun.ca (Bryan Hann) Subject: pine - wyse addendum Message-Id: <1994Aug20.124650.3416@cs.mun.ca> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 12:46:50 GMT bchann@maple.cs.mun.ca -- ----------------------------------------------------------. | ! Bryan C. Hann (bchann@maple.cs.mun.ca) | | /!\ Box 29, Wesleyville, Nfld., Canada A0G 4R0 | | -/-+-\- | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 20 19:34:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18868; Sat, 20 Aug 94 19:34:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12061; Sat, 20 Aug 94 19:30:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12052; Sat, 20 Aug 94 19:29:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qc2NK-00000aC; Sat, 20 Aug 94 19:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bchann@cs.mun.ca (Bryan Hann) Subject: help: pine on a wyse 60 terminal Message-Id: <1994Aug20.124406.3328@cs.mun.ca> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 12:44:06 GMT I have a wyse terminal and I wish to use pine. Unfortunately the program always causes an extra line to appear at the bottom of my screen, which causes the top line to be scrolled away, and which also causes highlighting on the page to work improperly. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. bchann@maple.cs.mun.ca -- ----------------------------------------------------------. | ! Bryan C. Hann (bchann@maple.cs.mun.ca) | | /!\ Box 29, Wesleyville, Nfld., Canada A0G 4R0 | | -/-+-\- | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 20 20:49:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20104; Sat, 20 Aug 94 20:49:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12949; Sat, 20 Aug 94 20:44:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12943; Sat, 20 Aug 94 20:44:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qc3a2-00000IC; Sat, 20 Aug 94 20:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tomc@pinn.net (Tom Cole) Subject: convert.exe and pine Date: 21 Aug 1994 04:13:57 GMT Message-Id: <336ka5$q5k@everest.pinn.net> I briefly heard from somewhere about a convert.exe command that can be used in your home dir to decipher a WP 5.1 (or any ASCII text file) that is attached to an email and both sites have Pine 3.89 There can be a tremendous use for this command if I can find it anonFTP anyone know where it can be had? Thanks, Thomas S. Cole INTERNET ADDRESS: tomc@pinn.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 21 00:13:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23267; Sun, 21 Aug 94 00:13:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06959; Sun, 21 Aug 94 00:10:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06953; Sun, 21 Aug 94 00:10:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qc6lh-00000IC; Sat, 20 Aug 94 23:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ottscay@umcc.umcc.umich.edu (Scott Gifford) Subject: Re: www Date: 21 Aug 1994 06:45:34 GMT Message-Id: <336t6e$rua@montego.umcc.umich.edu> References: Lance K. Chun (lance@rahul.net) wrote: : In article , : jbray@gnofn.ucc.uno.edu (Jessica Bray LLE) wrote: : > Has anyone interfaced WWW and Pine mail? : > jbray : > Jessica Bray : > GNO Free-Net : > jbray@gnofn.ucc.uno.edu : Jessica, : Why would you want to do that? It doesn't make any sense. : Lance It makes sense if you send hypertext (HTML) mail...if I'm writing somebody about WWW, I find it easier to put an HTML command (like this ) right inside the message, and if you view it as HTML, you can just "click" on the link to see what I'm talking about...I use elm and just pipe my message in; Pine might be able to handle it as part of a MIME message. Or by just exporting it to a file and typing "lynx filename". ------Scott. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 21 00:23:25 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23450; Sun, 21 Aug 94 00:23:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15547; Sun, 21 Aug 94 00:20:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15541; Sun, 21 Aug 94 00:20:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qc6tj-00000LC; Sun, 21 Aug 94 00:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ronophir@ccsg.tau.ac.il (ophir ron) Subject: Re: Eudora Help?! Message-Id: <1994Aug21.060648.16962@aristo.tau.ac.il> References: <32dc28$1fo@Tut.MsState.Edu> Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 06:06:48 GMT Brian Odom (cbodom@sunmuw1) wrote: : Hello everyone, I know this is a PINE forum, but I don't know where else : to turn. I am currently at a school that uses PINE, but am soon moving to : a position at a school that uses EUDORA. Any information on this program : would be appreciated. Especially information on where to find more : information on the net.........Thanks in advance : Brian Odom : cbodom@sunmuw1.muw.edu Beware when you use Eudora on Mac and probably on Pc, it is not just transfer your income mail, but it also delete it from your host server. -- --------------------------------- Ron Ophir | Tel: 03-6408646 | e-mail: ronophir@ccsg.tau.ac.il | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 21 02:21:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26159; Sun, 21 Aug 94 02:21:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08477; Sun, 21 Aug 94 02:15:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08471; Sun, 21 Aug 94 02:15:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qc8gJ-00000IC; Sun, 21 Aug 94 01:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca (Joshua Bell) Subject: Re: www Message-Id: Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 08:51:39 GMT References: <336t6e$rua@montego.umcc.umich.edu> In article <336t6e$rua@montego.umcc.umich.edu>, Scott Gifford wrote: >Lance K. Chun (lance@rahul.net) wrote: >: In article , >: jbray@gnofn.ucc.uno.edu (Jessica Bray LLE) wrote: > >: > Has anyone interfaced WWW and Pine mail? >: Why would you want to do that? It doesn't make any sense. Yeah, you want to do it the other way; have your WWW browser behave as a MIME-compliant mail reader as well. I'm not sure that any do that yet, however. > It makes sense if you send hypertext (HTML) mail...if I'm writing somebody >about WWW, I find it easier to put an HTML command (like > this ) right inside the message, and if you >view it as HTML, you can just "click" on the link to see what I'm talking >about...I use elm and just pipe my message in; Pine might be able to handle >it as part of a MIME message. Or by just exporting it to a file and typing >"lynx filename". I have a utility that you (and others) might like. It is still "beta" (and I think it'll stay beta forever, and be superceded by browser functions like the above, but I digress), but it works. Take a peek at: http://www.ucalgary.ca/~jsbell/tools/fwebp.html Or, if you're not using a utility like that, and want it as an anchor: This will take you to the documentation (It requires Perl and runs under Unix, for the record.) I use it for doing exactly what the above poster suggests (although you can't pipe things to Lynx on my system) using macros in my newsreader and mailer programs. Suggestions and comments greatly appreciated (as would be an offer to help make it handle MIME documents, but again I digress). Joshua -- __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __Joshua_Sean_Bell__(jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca)__ \ \/ \/ /\/ \/ /\/ \/ / |"There's far too much to take in here, more to| \__/\__/\__/\__/\__/\__/ |__find than can ever be found..." - Tim Rice__| http://www.ucalgary.ca/~jsbell/home.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 21 07:34:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02236; Sun, 21 Aug 94 07:34:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20926; Sun, 21 Aug 94 07:30:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ultrix.ramapo.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20920; Sun, 21 Aug 94 07:30:15 -0700 Received: by ultrix (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA16931; Sun, 21 Aug 1994 10:30:09 -0400 Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 10:30:09 -0400 From: smann@ultrix.ramapo.edu (Steve-"Ill build your dreams with these 2 hands") Message-Id: <9408211430.AA16931@ultrix> To: gbuffett@morgan.ucs.mun.ca Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <332qvg$mfq@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> (gbuffett@morgan.ucs.mun.ca) Subject: Re: unencoding... HELP!!! Save from mail to a file. If you have the program uudecode, you are in luck. All you have to do is type uudecode and you have a unencoded file. There are other encrypting schemes so if this doesn't work, you will have to find out what he used. Hope this helps. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 21 09:54:25 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04481; Sun, 21 Aug 94 09:54:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22561; Sun, 21 Aug 94 09:50:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22555; Sun, 21 Aug 94 09:50:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qcFnS-00000LC; Sun, 21 Aug 94 09:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maja@birdland.rhein-neckar.de (Martin Jangowski) Subject: How to supress MIME-Support??? Message-Id: <1994Aug21.135252.2299@birdland.rhein-neckar.de> Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 13:52:52 GMT Hello! I'm using pine for everyday mailing without big problems. However, one problem remains: pine uses MIME quoted printables for special characters and even for very usual ones like TAB or CR. A lot of my friends use software without MIME-support, so my mails are funny looking or plain unreadable. How can I configure pine to send all 7-bit ASCII-Characters without MIME- quoting? I found nothing in the documentation bout this problem. Any help will be appreciated. Martin -- +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Martin Jangowski E-Mail: maja@birdland.rhein-neckar.de | | Voice: +49 621/53 95 06 Martin Jangowski @ LU | | Snail Mail: Koenigsbacher Str. 16 67067 Ludwigshafen Germany | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 21 13:56:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08234; Sun, 21 Aug 94 13:56:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16137; Sun, 21 Aug 94 13:50:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16131; Sun, 21 Aug 94 13:50:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qcJZM-00000IC; Sun, 21 Aug 94 13:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sgifford@impact.flint.umich.edu (Scott Gifford) Subject: Re: Using the Composer for news Date: 21 Aug 1994 20:32:35 GMT Message-Id: <338dl3INN9fk@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> References: <334bhcINNc0s@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <3353dp$s4v@news.halcyon.com> Ralph Sims (ralphs@halcyon.halcyon.com) wrote: > sgifford@impact.flint.umich.edu (Scott Gifford) writes: > > I really like Pine's composer interface for mail, and would like to > >modify it to work with UseNet news, with headers like Newsgroups up at > Are you speaking of using PICO as the 'composer'? I replaced the visual > editor pointers in the various newsreader's source code with pico and > it's working fine. I wrapped pico in a little shell script to work > with the temp files (pico -n if memory serves), and all's well. > The downside is that more folks are posting to usenet now. :) ( Sorry, Ralph, I mailed a response to you when I meant to post it... here's basically the same thing again) Sort of; I like the way it works within Pine, with a regular Pico editor on the lower half of the screen, and a set of headers at the top. I'd like to change these headers to things appropriate to news, such as "Newsgroups:" and "Distribution:". I'd LIKE Pine to parse the headers for me, but I can certainly live with doing it myself. Any suggestions? Thanks, ------Scott. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 21 13:59:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08307; Sun, 21 Aug 94 13:59:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25427; Sun, 21 Aug 94 13:56:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25421; Sun, 21 Aug 94 13:55:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qcJcS-00000LC; Sun, 21 Aug 94 13:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sgifford@impact.flint.umich.edu (Scott Gifford) Subject: Re: How to supress MIME-Support??? Date: 21 Aug 1994 20:35:35 GMT Message-Id: <338dqnINN9fk@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> References: <1994Aug21.135252.2299@birdland.rhein-neckar.de> Martin Jangowski (maja@birdland.rhein-neckar.de) wrote: > Hello! > I'm using pine for everyday mailing without big problems. However, one > problem remains: pine uses MIME quoted printables for special characters > and even for very usual ones like TAB or CR. A lot of my friends use > software without MIME-support, so my mails are funny looking or plain > unreadable. > How can I configure pine to send all 7-bit ASCII-Characters without MIME- > quoting? I found nothing in the documentation bout this problem. If you don't mind losing MIME altogether, you can recompile without the "#define MIME" (or something like that; maybe MIME_ENABLED); it's an ugly solution, but ought to work (you may have to wrap a few things in "#ifdef MIME"s )... ------Scott. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 21 14:24:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08739; Sun, 21 Aug 94 14:24:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25735; Sun, 21 Aug 94 14:21:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25729; Sun, 21 Aug 94 14:21:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qcK1O-00000IC; Sun, 21 Aug 94 14:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Using the Composer for news Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 13:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <334bhcINNc0s@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <3353dp$s4v@news.halcyon.com> <338dl3INN9fk@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <338dl3INN9fk@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> In Pine 3.89, even if you had the extra headers, it would not allow you to post News. The good news is that Pine 3.90 will be out very soon and will allow you to post News and configure whatever headers you want! |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 21 Aug 1994, Scott Gifford wrote: > Ralph Sims (ralphs@halcyon.halcyon.com) wrote: > > sgifford@impact.flint.umich.edu (Scott Gifford) writes: > > > > I really like Pine's composer interface for mail, and would like to > > >modify it to work with UseNet news, with headers like Newsgroups up at > > > Are you speaking of using PICO as the 'composer'? I replaced the visual > > editor pointers in the various newsreader's source code with pico and > > it's working fine. I wrapped pico in a little shell script to work > > with the temp files (pico -n if memory serves), and all's well. > > > The downside is that more folks are posting to usenet now. :) > > > ( Sorry, Ralph, I mailed a response to you when I meant to post it... > here's basically the same thing again) > > Sort of; I like the way it works within Pine, with a regular Pico > editor on the lower half of the screen, and a set of headers at the top. > I'd like to change these headers to things appropriate to news, such as > "Newsgroups:" and "Distribution:". I'd LIKE Pine to parse the headers > for me, but I can certainly live with doing it myself. Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > > ------Scott. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 21 14:26:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08800; Sun, 21 Aug 94 14:26:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16474; Sun, 21 Aug 94 14:21:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16460; Sun, 21 Aug 94 14:21:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qcK1N-00000LC; Sun, 21 Aug 94 14:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: How to supress MIME-Support??? Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 13:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <1994Aug21.135252.2299@birdland.rhein-neckar.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994Aug21.135252.2299@birdland.rhein-neckar.de> If you only have 7-bit characters in the message, Pine will not encode it. But if you have even one 8-bit character there is no way to prevent encoding... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 21 Aug 1994, Martin Jangowski wrote: > Hello! > > I'm using pine for everyday mailing without big problems. However, one > problem remains: pine uses MIME quoted printables for special characters > and even for very usual ones like TAB or CR. A lot of my friends use > software without MIME-support, so my mails are funny looking or plain > unreadable. > > How can I configure pine to send all 7-bit ASCII-Characters without MIME- > quoting? I found nothing in the documentation bout this problem. > > Any help will be appreciated. > > Martin > > > -- > +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Martin Jangowski E-Mail: maja@birdland.rhein-neckar.de | > | Voice: +49 621/53 95 06 Martin Jangowski @ LU | > | Snail Mail: Koenigsbacher Str. 16 67067 Ludwigshafen Germany | > +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 21 16:04:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10500; Sun, 21 Aug 94 16:04:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17624; Sun, 21 Aug 94 16:01:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17618; Sun, 21 Aug 94 16:01:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qcLZY-00000IC; Sun, 21 Aug 94 15:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@ncc1701a.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Superuser) Subject: pine help: imapd pop3 sco Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 22:31:16 GMT Message-Id: <1994Aug21.153116@ncc1701a.NoSubdomain.NoDomain> Will a pine imapd client (local) connect and talk with a pop3 server (remote) so that I can get my mail from my ppp-access provider? (In the sparse install/config docs it briefly mentions that the imapd client is a superset of the pop3 rfcnnn standard...) Please email reply to: mshallop@sco.com Thanks in advance... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 21 18:01:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12299; Sun, 21 Aug 94 18:01:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28102; Sun, 21 Aug 94 17:51:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28096; Sun, 21 Aug 94 17:51:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qcNHo-00000PC; Sun, 21 Aug 94 17:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jpeet@leif.ucs.mun.ca Subject: Help with headers! Date: 21 Aug 94 21:51:56 -0230 Message-Id: <1994Aug21.215156.1@leif> Hi There! I need to know how to edit my header and where to put X-Anon-To: in it. Can anybody help me? Thanks in advance. Jon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 21 18:33:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12827; Sun, 21 Aug 94 18:33:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19190; Sun, 21 Aug 94 18:29:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from dfw.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19184; Sun, 21 Aug 94 18:29:24 -0700 Received: by dfw.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07400; Sun, 21 Aug 94 20:30:43 CDT Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 20:30:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeff Ciemny Subject: unsubscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 21 21:06:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15029; Sun, 21 Aug 94 21:06:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00319; Sun, 21 Aug 94 21:01:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00313; Sun, 21 Aug 94 21:01:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qcQH0-00000IC; Sun, 21 Aug 94 20:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: How to supress MIME-Support??? Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 20:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <1994Aug21.135252.2299@birdland.rhein-neckar.de> <338dqnINN9fk@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <338dqnINN9fk@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Huh? There is no such #define in Pine. You must be thinking of some other program... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 21 Aug 1994, Scott Gifford wrote: > Martin Jangowski (maja@birdland.rhein-neckar.de) wrote: > > Hello! > > > I'm using pine for everyday mailing without big problems. However, one > > problem remains: pine uses MIME quoted printables for special characters > > and even for very usual ones like TAB or CR. A lot of my friends use > > software without MIME-support, so my mails are funny looking or plain > > unreadable. > > > How can I configure pine to send all 7-bit ASCII-Characters without MIME- > > quoting? I found nothing in the documentation bout this problem. > > If you don't mind losing MIME altogether, you can recompile without the > "#define MIME" (or something like that; maybe MIME_ENABLED); it's an ugly > solution, but ought to work (you may have to wrap a few things in > "#ifdef MIME"s )... > > ------Scott. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 21 21:09:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15161; Sun, 21 Aug 94 21:09:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00388; Sun, 21 Aug 94 21:06:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00376; Sun, 21 Aug 94 21:06:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qcQKk-00000PC; Sun, 21 Aug 94 20:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Help with headers! Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 20:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <1994Aug21.215156.1@leif> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994Aug21.215156.1@leif> That feature is not available in Pine 3.89 and earlier, but will be available in Pine 3.90. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 21 Aug 1994 jpeet@kean.ucs.mun.ca wrote: > Hi There! > I need to know how to edit my header and where to put X-Anon-To: in it. > Can anybody help me? > Thanks in advance. > > Jon > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 21 21:10:21 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15184; Sun, 21 Aug 94 21:10:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20868; Sun, 21 Aug 94 21:06:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20862; Sun, 21 Aug 94 21:06:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qcQKg-00000LC; Sun, 21 Aug 94 20:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: pine help: imapd pop3 sco Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 20:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <1994Aug21.153116@ncc1701a.NoSubdomain.NoDomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994Aug21.153116@ncc1701a.NoSubdomain.NoDomain> Imapd is a server, not a client. The c-client in the latest IMAP toolkit does provide a POP driver, so Pine could be made to use POP without great difficulty. Pine 3.90 will not have it enabled by default though. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 21 Aug 1994, Superuser wrote: > Will a pine imapd client (local) connect and talk with a pop3 server > (remote) so that I can get my mail from my ppp-access provider? > (In the sparse install/config docs it briefly mentions that the imapd > client is a superset of the pop3 rfcnnn standard...) > > Please email reply to: mshallop@sco.com > > Thanks in advance... > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 21 22:35:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16758; Sun, 21 Aug 94 22:35:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21785; Sun, 21 Aug 94 22:26:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from lipschitz.sfasu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21779; Sun, 21 Aug 94 22:26:55 -0700 Received: by lipschitz.sfasu.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA25820; Mon, 22 Aug 94 00:26:27 -0600 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 00:26:24 -0600 (GMT-0600) From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: sendmail alternative? To: Pine Info List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How does a user coerce Pine into using something besides sendmail? "Something" would use exactly the same args as sendmail and would ultimately call on sendmail to deliver the message. -- kc From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 22 07:59:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28236; Mon, 22 Aug 94 07:59:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28832; Mon, 22 Aug 94 07:48:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail.ciesin.org by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28826; Mon, 22 Aug 94 07:48:13 -0700 Received: from mail.ciesin.org by ciesin.org with SMTP id AA07723 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 22 Aug 1994 10:48:12 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 10:47:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Olsenholler Subject: Storing old sent mail To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Viswanath Gopalakrishnan In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 22 Aug 1994, Jeff Olsenholler wrote: How can we make the "yes" the default for storing the previous months old sent mail in sent-mail-MMM-YYYY? Thanks, Jeff Olsenholler CIESIN jeff.olsenholler@ciesin.org 2250 Pierce Road (517) 797-2657 (voice) Saginaw, Michigan (517) 797-2622 (fax) 48710 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 22 08:17:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28824; Mon, 22 Aug 94 08:17:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29256; Mon, 22 Aug 94 08:07:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29250; Mon, 22 Aug 94 08:07:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qcafg-00000MC; Mon, 22 Aug 94 07:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: spitz@GANS2X.ana.med.uni-muenchen.de (Richard Spitz) Subject: Re: ioctl (TIOCWINSZ) failed Date: 22 Aug 1994 14:35:45 GMT Message-Id: <33ad41$l2m@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <1994Aug17.121351.3464@bradford.ac.uk> Dave King (dave@adm1.bris.ac.uk) wrote: : Confirm what your shell "thinks" your current window dimensions are by : doing an "stty -a", and look for the "rows" and "cols" values. If they : are shown as 0 (zero), try this fix: : stty cols `tput cols` rows `tput lines` Thank you very much for this info. Although "stty -a" didn't reveal any info about the settings for "columns" and "rows" on our system (SINIX 5.41, a SysVR4), I just tried your suggestion and it did indeed resolve the ioctl error message. One minor correction: On our system, the correct syntax is stty columns `tput cols` rows `tput lines` ^^^^ Regards, Richard -- +----------------------------+-------------------------------------------+ | Dr. Richard Spitz | INTERNET: spitz@ana.med.uni-muenchen.de | | EDV-Gruppe Anaesthesie | Tel : +49-89-7095-3421 | | Klinikum Grosshadern | FAX : +49-89-7095-8886 | | 81366 Munich, Germany | | +----------------------------+-------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 22 08:32:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29278; Mon, 22 Aug 94 08:32:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09131; Mon, 22 Aug 94 08:22:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09125; Mon, 22 Aug 94 08:22:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qcasL-00000PC; Mon, 22 Aug 94 08:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: Pine/gzipped for SCO Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 14:34:50 GMT Message-Id: References: <333n3b$t8q@news.midland.co.nz> Peter Scott (peter@h_yellow.co.nz) wrote: : All the files have been compressed with gzip (ie have an extention of : .gz). I am not familiar with this compression program. : Can someone please tell me what I need to unzip the files. This is the GNU Zip program from the Free Software Foundation, which you can find on prep.ai.mit.edu. I'm not sure what it takes to build it any more, but it doesn't do anything really strange, so you should be able to work it out. It will require a compiler. : Also once I have unzipped the programs I am not sure of what steps I need to : follow to get it up and running. If anyone has experience of doing this : in SCO then can they please provide a simple step by step list. Pine needs nothing, really, to run, except the program. When you first start it up, it will create a directory "~/mail" to store its folders in, and a file .pinerc, which it stores its settings. It will also look in the file /usr/local/lib/pine.conf for a system-level .pinerc. So, a good step-by-step: Unpack program. Move to /usr/local/bin/pine, set permissions to 755, owner bin.bin. Run program. Take .pinerc as generated, fill in the system-wide fields, copy to /usr/local/lib/pine.conf. Useful system-wide settings are things like SMTO-server or features. That's it. _HOWEVER_: Within the next couple of days, Pine 3.90 is coming out, which has many nice, advanced features, including vastly better MMDF support, News posting, implementing some historically unimplemented features, etc. It compiles "out of the box" on SCO Unix, and I'll have the binary on soils as soon as I can get it there. I'd recommend waiting. Actually, I'd recommend getting a copy of gzip, too. If there isn't one on soils, I'll put one there. Pine-3.90 will be gzipped, too. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 22 09:05:21 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01503; Mon, 22 Aug 94 09:05:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00422; Mon, 22 Aug 94 08:58:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00416; Mon, 22 Aug 94 08:58:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qcbSN-00000LC; Mon, 22 Aug 94 08:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: morris@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Law Mow-man) Subject: Suggest softwares for MIME-Support Date: 22 Aug 1994 13:20:58 GMT Message-Id: <33a8nq$1d2e@ctsc.hkbc.hk> I have been using pine for about a month. Pine is MIME-supported. However, our site has no MIME-support software. Therefore, we cannot see any email with MIME component. Would someone suggest a bunch of MIME-support software so that I can installed into the system? Freeware or Commercial one does not matter. Answer with posting or email is appreciated Regards, -- Morris Law Technician / Demonstrator Address : 224 Waterloo Road, KLN, Hong Kong Department of Mathematics Tel : (852) 3397026 Fax : (852) 3388014 Hong Kong Baptist College Email : morris@math.hkbc.hk ========================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 22 14:18:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16181; Mon, 22 Aug 94 14:18:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07617; Mon, 22 Aug 94 14:13:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07607; Mon, 22 Aug 94 14:13:03 -0700 Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V4.3-11 #2001) id <01HG7O390EE895N4NE@INNOSOFT.COM>; Mon, 22 Aug 1994 14:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 14:12:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Portia Shao Subject: Suggestion for PINE (fwd) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="Boundary (ID x9uAmynZogexaKWKt3Ykpg)" --Boundary (ID x9uAmynZogexaKWKt3Ykpg) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Since this is a general Pine question/request, what do you think? /portia portia@innosoft.com Innosoft International Inc. (818)919-3600 voice, (818)919-3614 fax 1050 East Garvey Ave South, West Covina, CA 91790 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 16:49:33 -0400 (EDT) From: T. Combs To: portia@INNOSOFT.COM Subject: Suggestion for PINE Please find attached a suggestion from one of our users. I don't think this can be done but looks like a nice feature. -- Terry Combs E-Mail: COMBSTM@Conrad.Appstate.Edu (Appalachian State University) Phone: (704)262-6297 FAX: (704)262-2236 --Boundary (ID x9uAmynZogexaKWKt3Ykpg) Content-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Return-path: Received: from conrad.appstate.edu by conrad.appstate.edu (PMDF V4.3-7 #6004) id <01HG7OGB8BR09OD0QG@conrad.appstate.edu>; Mon, 22 Aug 1994 14:23:27 EDT Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 14:23:25 -0400 (EDT) From: DUKERK@conrad.appstate.edu Subject: PINE editor To: vax postmaster Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a way to insert the contents of one letter into another letter without first having to export the first into a file-text format? I would find this particularly helpful in regard to letters I have placed in the "sentfile" folder. Thanks! Rodney ------------------------------- Dr. Rodney K. Duke Dept. of Philosophy & Religion Appalachian State University Boone, NC 28608 704-262-2541 (o) dukerk@appstate.bitnet dukerk@conrad.appstate.edu --Boundary (ID x9uAmynZogexaKWKt3Ykpg)-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 22 20:01:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29019; Mon, 22 Aug 94 20:01:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14033; Mon, 22 Aug 94 19:58:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14025; Mon, 22 Aug 94 19:57:58 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA01634; Tue, 23 Aug 94 10:59:13 +0800 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 10:59:12 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: How to supress MIME-Support??? To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 21 Aug 1994, David L Miller wrote: > If you only have 7-bit characters in the message, Pine will not encode it. > But if you have even one 8-bit character there is no way to prevent > encoding... Not only that....it would defeat the whole purpose to "supress MIME-Support". What he should be doing is encouraging the other folks to switch to a MIME capable UA. Not breaking a working one. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 22 20:20:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29393; Mon, 22 Aug 94 20:20:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23357; Mon, 22 Aug 94 20:15:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ousrvr.oulu.fi by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23351; Mon, 22 Aug 94 20:15:18 -0700 Received: from paju.oulu.fi by oulu.fi (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16255; Tue, 23 Aug 94 06:15:13 +0300 Received: by paju.oulu.fi (931110.SGI/930416.SGI.AUTO) for @ousrvr.oulu.fi:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA07020; Tue, 23 Aug 94 06:15:13 +0300 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 06:15:11 +0300 (EDT) From: "M. Hotti" Subject: Problems with Fcc: to subdirectory/sent-mail To: Pine-Info Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My directory structure for pine folders and collections is like this: (Unix-Pine) collections folders ----------------------------------------------------------------- $HOME --> mail --> Personal --> john jack tina listmail --> pine-info aikido-list NEW-LIST sent-saves--> sent-mail sent-mail-feb sent-mail-mar Etc... My default for saves is mail/Personal/[] directory and I'm trying to make Pine to save the Fcc: to the mail/sent-saves/sent-mail -directory. I've put the following line in my .pinerc -file: default-fcc=mail/sent-saves/sent-mail ... but when composing and sending the message I get the error message stating that there's no such file in 'mail-Personals'. Pine tries to create the file but it doesn't succeed in it, of course. Does the sent-mail -file always have to be in the default directory for saves. I also tried: default-fcc=mail/sent-saves/[] ... but it didn't help either. Yours, Marko -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Marko Hotti University of Oulu Faculty of Medicine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 22 21:01:42 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00271; Mon, 22 Aug 94 21:01:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23820; Mon, 22 Aug 94 20:57:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ousrvr.oulu.fi by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23814; Mon, 22 Aug 94 20:57:19 -0700 Received: from paju.oulu.fi by oulu.fi (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16445; Tue, 23 Aug 94 06:57:18 +0300 Received: by paju.oulu.fi (931110.SGI/930416.SGI.AUTO) for @ousrvr.oulu.fi:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA07692; Tue, 23 Aug 94 06:57:17 +0300 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 06:57:15 +0300 (EDT) From: "M. Hotti" Subject: Re: Problems with Fcc: to subdirectory/sent-mail To: Pine-Info Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ... Forget about my previous posting about the problem concerning the Fcc: to subdirectory/sent-mail. It was actually very easy to solve but I was just too impatient to try all the alternatives. The answer was to put the full pathname to the fcc-folder= -entry in .pinerc. I was assuming that Pine will generate all its pathnames for folders and collections relative to the $HOME/mail -directory. Thanks anyway for everyone who answered the question! -Marko- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 22 21:52:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01262; Mon, 22 Aug 94 21:52:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24462; Mon, 22 Aug 94 21:48:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ousrvr.oulu.fi by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24456; Mon, 22 Aug 94 21:48:16 -0700 Received: from paju.oulu.fi by oulu.fi (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16777; Tue, 23 Aug 94 07:48:14 +0300 Received: by paju.oulu.fi (931110.SGI/930416.SGI.AUTO) for @ousrvr.oulu.fi:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA08441; Tue, 23 Aug 94 07:48:14 +0300 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 07:48:11 +0300 (EDT) From: "M. Hotti" Subject: Sorting sent-mail to separate folders To: Pine-Info Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, it's me again... :-) I was wondering, if it is possible to make an Fcc: to separate sent-mail files according to the receiver (sent-mail-jack, sent-mail-tina etc.)?? This could be a major advantage since my sent-mail files tend to expand very large and it is sometimes hard to find a certain message among a list of 300 messages in the folder. -Marko- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Marko Hotti University of Oulu Faculty of Medicine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 07:05:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12725; Tue, 23 Aug 94 07:05:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22686; Tue, 23 Aug 94 06:56:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uu3.psi.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22680; Tue, 23 Aug 94 06:56:13 -0700 Received: from naz.edu by uu3.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA18261 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 94 09:53:08 -0400 Received: from hydra.naz.edu.naz.edu by naz.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-DNI) id AA28903; Tue, 23 Aug 94 08:53:08 EDT Received: by hydra.naz.edu.naz.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA08056; Tue, 23 Aug 1994 09:07:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 09:03:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael A. Naud" Subject: Help with Control T To: Pine Discussion Group Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Some users on campus are experiencing this problem. It has happen while using VersaTerm for the Mac, Zstem by KEA! for DOS and on a plain old VT320 terminal. Here is the problem: When someone uses Pine or Pico, and tries using the spell checker, the following gets inserted into their document: [Yes] It never starts the spell checker. We are running Pine 3.87 and Pico 2.1. Is there some know bug? Am I missing something? Help? Michael A. Naud Dept of Academic Computing ---- Michael A. Naud (716) 586-2525 VOICE Nazareth College of Rochester (716) 586-2452 FACSIMILE 4245 East Avenue manaud@naz.edu E-MAIL Rochester, NY 14618-3980 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 08:36:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15433; Tue, 23 Aug 94 08:36:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02854; Tue, 23 Aug 94 08:18:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from acg60.wfunet.wfu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02848; Tue, 23 Aug 94 08:18:42 -0700 Received: by acg60 (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA162445122; Tue, 23 Aug 1994 11:18:42 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 11:18:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Noel Hunter Subject: Re: Storing old sent mail To: Jeff Olsenholler Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Viswanath Gopalakrishnan In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 22 Aug 1994, Jeff Olsenholler wrote: > How can we make the "yes" the default for storing the previous months old > sent mail in sent-mail-MMM-YYYY? No, unfortunately we can't easily change that because it's part of the code in Pine, not a preference we can set. Plus, we want people to delete their old mail, and for it to be a slight inconvenience for them not to do so :-) Regards, Noel * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 09:09:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17757; Tue, 23 Aug 94 09:09:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03557; Tue, 23 Aug 94 08:54:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03549; Tue, 23 Aug 94 08:54:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qcxpj-00000mC; Tue, 23 Aug 94 08:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: sendmail alternative? Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 09:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Redefine SENDMAIL in pine/osdep/os-???.h and rebuild. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 22 Aug 1994, J. Kelly Cunningham wrote: > > How does a user coerce Pine into using something besides sendmail? > "Something" would use exactly the same args as sendmail and would > ultimately call on sendmail to deliver the message. > > -- kc > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 09:09:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17798; Tue, 23 Aug 94 09:09:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24713; Tue, 23 Aug 94 08:54:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24707; Tue, 23 Aug 94 08:54:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qcxq1-00000nC; Tue, 23 Aug 94 08:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine/gzipped for SCO Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 09:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <333n3b$t8q@news.midland.co.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 22 Aug 1994, Gunther Anderson wrote: > Take .pinerc as generated, fill in the system-wide fields, copy to > /usr/local/lib/pine.conf. Useful system-wide settings are things > like SMTO-server or features. The preferred method to get your initial pine.conf file is to run pine -conf > /usr/local/lib/pine.conf Although they are similar, there are different settings, defaults, and comments between a pinerc and pine.conf. Pine 3.90 will also have a "-pinerc" option to update the comments and otherwise clean up an old .pinerc file. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 09:27:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19502; Tue, 23 Aug 94 09:27:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25194; Tue, 23 Aug 94 09:06:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail.ciesin.org by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25188; Tue, 23 Aug 94 09:06:47 -0700 Received: from mail.ciesin.org by ciesin.org with SMTP id AA25325 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 23 Aug 1994 12:06:40 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 12:06:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Olsenholler Reply-To: Jeff Olsenholler Subject: Re: Storing old sent mail To: Noel Hunter Cc: Jeff Olsenholler , pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Viswanath Gopalakrishnan In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I'm a little confused. I guess I haven't explained our situation and desires fully. The way Pine works here, if you answer "no" to the question on storing the previous months old sent mail in sent-mail-MMM-YYYY, the sent-mail folder just continues to grow. What we'd like to do is make the sent-mail-MMM-YYYY option the default (if not automatic) so that we can compress sent-mail-MMM-YYYY files older than 60 days and annually write sent-mail-MMM-YYYY.Z files to tape. Is there a way to do this, or is there a planned feature that will permit this, or am I just whistling Dixie? Thanks, Jeff Olsenholler CIESIN jeff.olsenholler@ciesin.org 2250 Pierce Road (517) 797-2657 (voice) Saginaw, Michigan (517) 797-2622 (fax) 48710 USA On Tue, 23 Aug 1994, Noel Hunter wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Aug 1994, Jeff Olsenholler wrote: > > > How can we make the "yes" the default for storing the previous months old > > sent mail in sent-mail-MMM-YYYY? > > No, unfortunately we can't easily change that because it's part of the > code in Pine, not a preference we can set. Plus, we want people to > delete their old mail, and for it to be a slight inconvenience for them > not to do so :-) > > Regards, > Noel > > * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * > * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 10:34:49 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23412; Tue, 23 Aug 94 10:34:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05675; Tue, 23 Aug 94 10:18:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05669; Tue, 23 Aug 94 10:18:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qcz64-00000ZC; Tue, 23 Aug 94 09:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: advax@reg.triumf.ca (A.Daviel) Subject: Can Pine play Audio attachments? Date: 22 Aug 1994 13:06 PST Message-Id: <22AUG199413062526@reg.triumf.ca> Can Pine play Audio attachments? If not, why not? I sort of expected it to use .mailcap and .mime.types like Mosaic to spawn something.I've got Pine 3.89 on Linux. .... later.. grepping around in the source I see there is support for audio for Suns. Perhaps I can hack something.. --

Andrew Daviel, Vancouver, Canada (advax@triumf.ca)

Andrew Daviel, TRIUMF - home of the world's largest cyclotron

.sig From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 11:35:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26618; Tue, 23 Aug 94 11:35:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28226; Tue, 23 Aug 94 11:28:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28220; Tue, 23 Aug 94 11:28:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qd0Gp-00000iC; Tue, 23 Aug 94 11:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: ...filters [FAQ] Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 09:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <33bk6r$b6m@xcalibur.IntNet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <33bk6r$b6m@xcalibur.IntNet.net> >From the upcoming Pine FAQ: How can I filter messages into different incoming folders? Pine does not do delivery filtering. That function is done by other programs, such as "procmail", or "filter" or "deliver". Once you have set-up your delivery filtering, e.g. via the "filter" program, then you will have new mail arriving in several different mailboxes/folders, in addition to your INBOX. So then the question becomes, how do you access those new "incoming message" folders that your favorite delivery filter program has created? Pine's answer is to let you specify them in your .pinerc, as in the example: incoming-folders=Consulting {warhol.art.nowhere.edu}filter/to-help, Widget-Project {warhol.art.nowhere.edu}filter/to-widget, Old-Student-Acct {fozzie.elsewhere.edu}INBOX In this case, the pinerc entries presume that your delivery filtering program has been configured to put mail relating to "consulting" into the folder "filter/to-help" and mail relating to the "widget project" into "filter/to-widget". >From the Folders List screen, you can then easily access those folders. Eventually we will have a way to indicate which of these may have new mail waiting for you, so that you don't "forget" that you have more than one place to look for new mail... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 22 Aug 1994, FLOATING OUTWARD wrote: > I apologize in advance for asking what I am sure must be a FAQ on this > group - I checked the relevant archival sites and was unable to find a > FAQ. :( > > I need to know how to filter my mail into folders. Ie: all mail from > wanghead@foo.com goes into the WangHead folder, all mail with "fork" in > the title goes into the Fork folder, etc.. > > Thanks. > > > -- > ( THEY CAN STOP THE PARTY, BUT THEY CAN'T STOP THE FUTURE ) > ( --------------------[ entropy@intnet.net ]------------- ) > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 12:06:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27967; Tue, 23 Aug 94 12:06:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08217; Tue, 23 Aug 94 12:00:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mercury.bih.harvard.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08211; Tue, 23 Aug 94 12:00:05 -0700 Received: (from scott@localhost) by BIH Mail Handler (8.6.9/8.6.7) id PAA11904; Tue, 23 Aug 1994 15:01:45 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 15:01:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott McWilliams Subject: 22 August ? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just went looking for the 3.90 version. Did the 22 Aug date get pushed back? ------------------ - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------------------------------ | Scott A. McWilliams Internet: Scott_McWilliams@bih.harvard.edu | | Sysadmin, Postmaster | | | | Snail: Beth Israel Hospital | | Network Services | | Mail Stop BL-320 Vox: +1 617.735.5559 | | 330 Brookline Avenue Facs: +1 617.735.3966 | | Boston, Mass. 02215 | -------------------- - -Deinimid iarracht ni/os fearr!- - ------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 14:03:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03084; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:03:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01366; Tue, 23 Aug 94 13:55:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01360; Tue, 23 Aug 94 13:55:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qd2Xt-00000gC; Tue, 23 Aug 94 13:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Gardiner Myers Subject: Re: Suggest softwares for MIME-Support Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 16:52:13 -0400 Message-Id: References: <33a8nq$1d2e@ctsc.hkbc.hk> In-Reply-To: <33a8nq$1d2e@ctsc.hkbc.hk> A minimalist MIME-reading program, munpack, is available via anonymous FTP to ftp.andrew.cmu.edu in the directory pub/mpack/. The program reads MIME messages and writes the decoded parts out to files. Versions are available for Unix, MS-DOS, Macintosh, and Amiga platforms. -- _.John G. Myers Internet: jgm+@CMU.EDU LoseNet: ...!seismo!ihnp4!wiscvm.wisc.edu!give!up From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 14:48:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05119; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:48:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02499; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:44:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02493; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:43:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qd3J9-00000gC; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: PC pine and Windows Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 15:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Are you configuring a high enough minimum memory requirement? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 15 Aug 1994, Linda Willett wrote: > Hi > > I realize pc-pine does not support windows yet, but can't I create a > pif file to run pine.exe, so that I can run pc-pine in full screen > while still in the windows environment??? > > I am trying to do this, but when I click on the icon, it starts pc-pine > and then goes back to the program window - is there a setting I am > missing????? By the way, pc-pine works fine from DOS. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > > Linda Willett > llw@imd1.cbs.state.or.us > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 14:49:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05182; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:49:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02544; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:45:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02538; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:45:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qd3JM-00000lC; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Non-expansion of dist list Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 15:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine has always had this capability via the Bcc: header. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 17 Aug 1994, Diane Dickinson wrote: > Will there ever be the ability to hide distribution list members in the > to header using Pine? Thanks. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 14:51:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05315; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:51:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02594; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:46:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02588; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:46:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qd3Ne-00000pC; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: sendmail alternatives Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 15:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: You can point to an SMTP server by setting the smtp-server variable in your .pinerc file. Other than that, there is nothing short of a source change... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 19 Aug 1994, J. Kelly Cunningham wrote: > > How does a non-root user point pine at something besides sendmail? > > -- kc > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 14:52:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05351; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:52:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02564; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:46:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02558; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:46:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qd3JP-00000iC; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine doesn't know about New Mail Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 15:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <330pe9$6vo@pendragon.jsc.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <330pe9$6vo@pendragon.jsc.nasa.gov> Pine only checks for new mail every 2.5 minutes. You can force a new mail check with ^L. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 18 Aug 1994, Richard Devera wrote: > I'm running Ultrix 4.3a and sendmail 8.6.9. I've noticed when > I'm notified of New Mail at the shell prompt, PINE does not > recognize the new mail or move the mail out of the spool area. > If I run the old mail :-(, I find that mail exists. > > Do I need to configure something? > > Richard Devera > rdevera@hti.net > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 14:52:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05368; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:52:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02572; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:46:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02566; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:46:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qd3JT-00000mC; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Reply Headers/Different From Address Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 15:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <330q1u$qrp@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <330q1u$qrp@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> If the username is the same, but the hostname varies, set the user-domain variable in your .pinerc file. If the username varies too, wait for Pine 3.90 and set the Reply-To: header. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 18 Aug 1994, Heimdall wrote: > I'm running PINE 3.89 on Linux 1.1.44 with SMail 3.1.28 on a SL/IP > connection with an address that changes every time I connect. Mail sent > to those addresses aren't forwarded anywhere else. I was wondering if > there is either a way to change the from address of sent mail to > something different, or add a header field which will redirect replies to > a different address? > > =============================================================================== > Daniel Whicker Music Education Major at the University of Texas at Austin > Email "heimdall@mail.utexas.edu" << SEND ALL MAIL HERE > =============================================================================== > "Celibacy is hereditary; if your parents didn't have sex, you probably > won't, either." -- Anonymous > =============================================================================== > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 14:52:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05391; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:52:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02586; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:46:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02580; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:46:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qd3Nc-00000nC; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: MIMEs from the Netherlands Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 15:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I think the only reasonable long-term solution is to figure out where the MIME headers are getting lost. Your next step is probably to contact the Postmasters at both ends and see what they can find... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 19 Aug 1994, Scott McWilliams wrote: > > We're receiving MIME enclosures from a Pegasus-based site in the > Netherlands which are not being recognized by Pine. David Miller was nice > enough a few weeks ago to show me how to fix the headers so they would be > recognized, but now the volume is picking up and one user is making demands. > > I'll copy a sample header below. Can someone point out either (1) some > way to make them readable without handling them item-by-item; or (2) > something I can send back to the Netherlands to have them do differently > and make the recognizable by Pine; or (3) simply point out why 1&2 are > not possible and another solution is needed? > > Thanks! > > ---------------Typical header from Netherlands---------------- > > >From originalperson@med.rug.nl Fri Aug 19 10:06:05 1994 > Date: Tue, 02 Aug 1994 17:10:19 +0100 (MET) > From: Personthere > To: Personhere@hereplace > Subject: subsidie aanvragen > > --Message-Boundary-28059 > Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-description: Information about this message. > > This message contains a file prepared for transmission using the > MIME BASE64 transfer encoding scheme. If you are using Pegasus > Mail or another MIME-compliant system, you should be able to extract > it from within your mailer. If you cannot, please ask your system > administrator for help. > > ---- File information ----------- > File: IBDMAP15.TXT > Date: 2 Aug 1994, 17:7 > Size: 35046 bytes. > Type: WordPerfect > > --Message-Boundary-28059 > Content-type: Application/Octet-stream; name=IBDMAP15.TXT; type=WordPerfect > Content-transfer-encoding: BASE64 > > ....................data was here............ > > --Message-Boundary-28059-- > > > ------------------ - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------------------------------ > | Scott A. McWilliams Internet: Scott_McWilliams@bih.harvard.edu | > | Sysadmin, Postmaster | > | | > | Snail: Beth Israel Hospital | > | Network Services | > | Mail Stop BL-320 Vox: +1 617.735.5559 | > | 330 Brookline Avenue Facs: +1 617.735.3966 | > | Boston, Mass. 02215 | > -------------------- - -Deinimid iarracht ni/os fearr!- - ------------------ > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 14:55:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05493; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:55:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02636; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:49:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02628; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:48:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qd3Nq-00000rC; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine and newsreading Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 15:56:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: The first step is to find an NNTP server that will let you read news. Then edit the news-collections variable in your .pinerc file to point to that server. Finally, you need to create a .newsrc file, either with another newsreader or by hand. Alternatively, you can wait for Pine 3.90, which will create the .newsrc for you (and allow posting). |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 19 Aug 1994, Dion Vansevenant wrote: > > Ok, now I understand that Pine offers *some* support for reading news, > but looking through the docs has not enlightened me enough. I'm running > DG/UX 5.4.201 and pine 3.86. I've just managed to get Procmail to sort my > mail into various incoming mailboxes and even have the system tell me > which mailbox has just received mail (most of the time). > > Now I want to be able to at least *read* news from wherever it is that > people read their news. My system does not have its own news-reader (I've > tried, thus far unsuccessfully, to get one working) so I would like to > hear from other DG/UX users who *do* have a newsreader running and linked > in with Pine. > > Please note that while I am the SysAdmin, I'm a new one. Our VAR did not > give us much training on the system besides "Here's how you login, here's > vi.." While I have taken DG's SysAdmin course, it doesn't help much in > this case. I would greatly appreciate any help that could be provided > asap as there is information out there that I need to retrieve and the > person who saw it won't tell us where they saw it. (Separate matter, no > need for more detail at present) > > TIA > > Dion > > *----------------------------------------------* > | Dion Vansevenant stu2@faxon.ca | > | Systems Administrator | > | Faxon/SMS Canada Ltd. (519) 472-1006 voice | > | P.O. Box 2382 (519) 472-1072 fax | > | London, ON | > | Canada N6A 5A7 | > *----------------------------------------------* > > If you don't change your direction - you're bound to end up where you're headed. > - Chinese Proverb > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 15:03:58 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05963; Tue, 23 Aug 94 15:03:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11508; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:58:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11502; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:58:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qd3RU-00000tC; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Storing old sent mail Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 16:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: That requires a source change... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 22 Aug 1994, Jeff Olsenholler wrote: > On Mon, 22 Aug 1994, Jeff Olsenholler wrote: > > How can we make the "yes" the default for storing the previous months old > sent mail in sent-mail-MMM-YYYY? > > Thanks, > > > > Jeff Olsenholler CIESIN > jeff.olsenholler@ciesin.org 2250 Pierce Road > (517) 797-2657 (voice) Saginaw, Michigan > (517) 797-2622 (fax) 48710 USA > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 15:22:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06605; Tue, 23 Aug 94 15:22:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03174; Tue, 23 Aug 94 15:15:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from acg60.wfunet.wfu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03168; Tue, 23 Aug 94 15:15:20 -0700 Received: by acg60 (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA196490125; Tue, 23 Aug 1994 18:15:25 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 18:15:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Noel Hunter Subject: Re: sendmail alternatives To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 22 Aug 1994, David L Miller wrote: > You can point to an SMTP server by setting the smtp-server variable in your > .pinerc file. Other than that, there is nothing short of a source change... > > How does a non-root user point pine at something besides sendmail? Would it be possible to set up a chroot environment and create your own /usr/lib/sendmail in it? * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 15:24:16 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06709; Tue, 23 Aug 94 15:24:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11921; Tue, 23 Aug 94 15:18:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11915; Tue, 23 Aug 94 15:18:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qd3rd-00000YC; Tue, 23 Aug 94 14:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jklymak@u.washington.edu (Jody Klymak) Subject: pine/procmail alert Date: 22 Aug 1994 23:46:26 GMT Message-Id: <33bdci$nrh@news.u.washington.edu> Hi, I've got procmail set up to send my mail into four or five directories. I have configured my .pinerc so that these directories are known to pine as incoming-folders. This all works fine. The problem now is that when I am notified of new mail, I have to look through five folders to see where it is! Is there any way to get pine to say which incloming-folder has new mail? Or is there any way to configure my .procmailrc so that it sends a message of the sort New mail in folder foo! Any help or ideas would be appreciated. Thanks, Jody jklymak@ocean.washington.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 17:03:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11409; Tue, 23 Aug 94 17:03:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13972; Tue, 23 Aug 94 16:56:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13966; Tue, 23 Aug 94 16:56:53 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA16664; Wed, 24 Aug 94 07:58:02 +0800 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 07:58:01 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Can Pine play Audio attachments? To: "A.Daviel" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <22AUG199413062526@reg.triumf.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 22 Aug 1994, A.Daviel wrote: > Can Pine play Audio attachments? If not, why not? > I sort of expected it to use .mailcap and .mime.types > like Mosaic to spawn something.I've got Pine 3.89 > on Linux. > grepping around in the source I see there is support for audio > for Suns. Perhaps I can hack something.. pine 3.90 will have support for .mailcap Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 17:15:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12343; Tue, 23 Aug 94 17:15:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14068; Tue, 23 Aug 94 17:03:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14056; Tue, 23 Aug 94 17:03:15 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA16788; Wed, 24 Aug 94 08:03:56 +0800 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 08:03:55 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: 22 August ? To: Scott McWilliams Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 23 Aug 1994, Scott McWilliams wrote: > Just went looking for the 3.90 version. Did the 22 Aug date get pushed back? Hadn't you heard? Pine 3.90 was released on 22 August. However, it was a one day only sale. If you missed picking it up...you must wait for pine 3.91 due out before the end of "Ghost Month" in Taiwan. :-) :-) Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 17:29:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12655; Tue, 23 Aug 94 17:29:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06002; Tue, 23 Aug 94 17:20:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from faxon.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05994; Tue, 23 Aug 94 17:20:01 -0700 Received: by faxon.ca (5.4R2.01/192.139.186.253) id AA11441; Tue, 23 Aug 1994 20:18:29 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 20:17:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Dion Vansevenant Reply-To: Dion Vansevenant Subject: Re: pine/procmail alert To: Jody Klymak Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <33bdci$nrh@news.u.washington.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-3962628-777687509:#11356" --0-3962628-777687509:#11356 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Mon, 22 Aug 1994, Jody Klymak wrote: > Hi, > > I've got procmail set up to send my mail into four or five > directories. I have configured my .pinerc so that these directories [...] > Is there any way to get pine to say which incloming-folder has new mail? > Or is there any way to configure my .procmailrc so that it sends a > message of the sort > New mail in folder foo! > Any help or ideas would be appreciated. There's a couple of ways actually. I found an environment variable that can be set to check specific paths for mail and display custom messages if mail is found. It's not very reliable (I think), but it does seem to work. Plus it may be only for the DG, I don't know. I'll include my .profile so that you can look at it. Also, as this has been a hot topic for the past week, another respondent to someone else's request included a couple of files he wrote to do the checking. I'll attach those files as well. I don't know if, or how well they work as I haven't had a chance to try them, but at least you can try them out yourself. Good luck! 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Tue, 23 Aug 94 17:30:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05828; Tue, 23 Aug 94 17:08:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from faxon.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05822; Tue, 23 Aug 94 17:08:23 -0700 Received: by faxon.ca (5.4R2.01/192.139.186.253) id AA10608; Tue, 23 Aug 1994 20:07:02 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 20:01:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Dion Vansevenant Subject: Re: Pine and newsreading To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 22 Aug 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > The first step is to find an NNTP server that will let you read news. Then Sounds easy enough, except for one problem. I don't know how to find one, or how to get it to let me read news. I realize that you are a busy person, but please remember that I am a newbie. For the time being I need explicit instructions. > edit the news-collections variable in your .pinerc file to point to that > server. Finally, you need to create a .newsrc file, either with another > newsreader or by hand. Ok. The .pinerc I can do. The .newsrc is a no go. I don't even know what goes in one. Maybe if I can get tin to work I'll be able to see one. > Alternatively, you can wait for Pine 3.90, which will > create the .newsrc for you (and allow posting). > Waiting patiently.....Is it done yet? ;-) Dion *----------------------------------------------* | Dion Vansevenant stu2@faxon.ca | | Systems Administrator | | Faxon/SMS Canada Ltd. (519) 472-1006 voice | | P.O. Box 2382 (519) 472-1072 fax | | London, ON | | Canada N6A 5A7 | *----------------------------------------------* If you don't change your direction - you're bound to end up where you're headed. - Chinese Proverb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 17:56:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13305; Tue, 23 Aug 94 17:56:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06506; Tue, 23 Aug 94 17:52:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06500; Tue, 23 Aug 94 17:52:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qd5MN-00000MC; Tue, 23 Aug 94 16:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: alexanbs@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ALEXANDER BRIAN SHANE) Subject: Attaching files Date: 23 Aug 1994 00:11:03 -0600 Message-Id: I haven't figured out how to attach a file to e-mail through pine. My real problem lies in how to get a file from my computer to the server so pine can find it. There is, I'm sure, a very simple method which has escaped me, so will someone please enlighten me. Thanks in advance! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 19:52:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15757; Tue, 23 Aug 94 19:52:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16487; Tue, 23 Aug 94 19:47:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16481; Tue, 23 Aug 94 19:47:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qd8Bx-000008C; Tue, 23 Aug 94 19:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: virsto@ki.se (Virgil Stokes neuro) Subject: Latest Pine Message-Id: Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 14:46:02 GMT What is the latest version of Pine? And how can it be obtained (for updating)? -- I couldn't find a FAQ! --VPS -- *************************************************************************** * Virgil.Stokes@neuro.ki.se | * * BMC, Neuroscience | Things of quality * * Karolinska Institute | have no fear of time. * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 20:43:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16649; Tue, 23 Aug 94 20:43:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08617; Tue, 23 Aug 94 20:38:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08605; Tue, 23 Aug 94 20:38:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qd8ve-000008C; Tue, 23 Aug 94 20:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gmayner@access3.digex.net (G. Mayner) Subject: Printing contents of folders Date: 23 Aug 1994 12:01:43 -0400 Message-Id: <33d6h7$1p8@access3.digex.net> Can anyone tell me if it is possible to print the entire contents of a folder without printing each item in the folder individually? I would appreciate any help you can give me. I prefer an E-Mail response. It's difficult for me to get to the newsgroups. Thanks, Garry gmayner@access.digex.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 21:57:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17969; Tue, 23 Aug 94 21:57:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18061; Tue, 23 Aug 94 21:53:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18055; Tue, 23 Aug 94 21:53:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdA5e-000008C; Tue, 23 Aug 94 21:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roger@utdallas.edu (Roger D Cook) Subject: Re: Help with Control T Date: 23 Aug 1994 18:15:07 GMT Message-Id: <33debb$r3l@news.utdallas.edu> References: Michael A. Naud (manaud@hydra.naz.edu) wrote: [ Problem with ^T ] I think it may be sending an 'Are you there?' message on ^T instead of passing the character on through. roger -- ========================================================= Roger Cook, PC Technical Support University of Texas at Dallas Finger roger@apache.utdallas.edu for Geek Code (tm) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 22:43:11 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18915; Tue, 23 Aug 94 22:43:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18615; Tue, 23 Aug 94 22:39:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18609; Tue, 23 Aug 94 22:39:11 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA20453; Wed, 24 Aug 94 13:39:51 +0800 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 13:39:50 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Attaching files To: ALEXANDER BRIAN SHANE Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 23 Aug 1994, ALEXANDER BRIAN SHANE wrote: > I haven't figured out how to attach a file to e-mail through pine. My real problem lies in how to get a file from my computer to the server so pine can find it. There is, I'm sure, a very simple method which has escaped me, so will someone please enlighten me. Thanks in advance! It would *really* help if you gave people an idea of what your configuration looks like...... What is your computer.....how are you accessing pine now....??? If you are using a PC (a.k.a. computer) and using a terminal emulator and loging into a an account to execute pine.....then chance are you need something like kermit, xmodem, zmodem....to upload the file to your host. Chances are your terminal emulator package supports one of these...and you need to find out how to use it in conjunction with your host. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 22:43:35 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18960; Tue, 23 Aug 94 22:43:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18647; Tue, 23 Aug 94 22:40:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18635; Tue, 23 Aug 94 22:40:21 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA20484; Wed, 24 Aug 94 13:41:27 +0800 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 13:41:27 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Latest Pine To: Virgil Stokes neuro Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 23 Aug 1994, Virgil Stokes neuro wrote: > What is the latest version of Pine? And how can it be obtained (for > updating)? -- I couldn't find a FAQ! The latest version of pine is 3.89....howerver, best you wait a short time and get pine 3.90. It will be on ftp.cac.washington.edu. Inside "sources" indicate it will be worth the wait..... Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 23:15:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19685; Tue, 23 Aug 94 23:15:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19030; Tue, 23 Aug 94 23:11:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ousrvr.oulu.fi by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19024; Tue, 23 Aug 94 23:11:17 -0700 Received: from paju.oulu.fi by oulu.fi (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17510; Wed, 24 Aug 94 09:11:09 +0300 Received: by paju.oulu.fi (931110.SGI/930416.SGI.AUTO) for @ousrvr.oulu.fi:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA13862; Wed, 24 Aug 94 09:11:08 +0300 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 09:11:06 +0300 (EDT) From: "M. Hotti" Subject: TakeAddress to distribution list To: Pine-Info Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a way to take address from the current message and add it to a distribution list? key takes the address and binds it to an individual nickname - adding to a list-nickname doesn't seem to work. -Marko- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Marko Hotti University of Oulu Faculty of Medicine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 23 23:52:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20530; Tue, 23 Aug 94 23:52:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11093; Tue, 23 Aug 94 23:48:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11087; Tue, 23 Aug 94 23:48:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdBpS-00000YC; Tue, 23 Aug 94 23:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mhotti@paju.oulu.fi (Marko Hotti) Subject: Re: Latest Pine Date: 23 Aug 1994 20:31:38 GMT Message-Id: <33dmba$a8d@ousrvr.oulu.fi> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Virgil Stokes neuro (virsto@ki.se) wrote: : What is the latest version of Pine? And how can it be obtained (for : updating)? -- I couldn't find a FAQ! The latest version is 3.89 (3.90 is to be released this week or so!!!). You can get the latest version by ftp:ing to: ftp.cac.washington.edu -Marko- -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Marko Hotti University of Oulu Faculty of Medicine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 24 00:09:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20890; Wed, 24 Aug 94 00:09:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19694; Wed, 24 Aug 94 00:04:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19688; Wed, 24 Aug 94 00:04:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdC7F-000008C; Tue, 23 Aug 94 23:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Subject: Re: status of encryption? Message-Id: <1994Aug24.000049.25602@cc.usu.edu> Date: 24 Aug 94 00:00:49 MDT Sorry, I didn't mean to followup... What's the status of encryption? I'm building a script that provides pgp encryption to Pine. Send your public key, with a solemn promise not to laugh at the code, to deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu if you want it. -- kc Here's the blurb: (1) Extract and install mkpgp. At your Unix prompt, run the command: uudecode NameOfTheFileYouArePresentlyReading An executable script, mkpgp, will be extracted. Move the the script into a directory on your path. One such dir is usually "bin" in your home directory. Examine the leading names of your path variable if you are unsure. In the unlikely event that you don't have access to a dir for executables, see * below. Run the Unix command rehash *or* logout and login. Either of these will make your system "aware" of the new command "mkpgp." (2) Configure Pine for mkpgp. Edit .pinerc. Set the alternate editor to mkpgp: # Editor to use in place of Pine's internal composer, Pico editor=mkpgp * Or use an absolute path. E.g., editor=/yourHomeDir/mkpgp Force Pine to put your signature at the bottom: # Use old style forward/reply with new text and signature below included text # Old-style-reply is obsolete, use signature-at-bottom in feature-list old-style-reply=yes [...] # The feature-list that is in effect when you are running Pine [...] # of the features is no-, that is, off. feature-list=old-growth, signature-at-bottom (3) Configure mkpgp At present, there are only two configuration options in mkpgp. Edit mkpgp and change lines 3 or 5 if appropriate. #!/bin/csh -f # Set the real alternate editor on the next line. set MKPGPEDITOR=pico # Determine if sender can read encrypted messages. set ENCRYPTTOSELF=on (4) Usage. My first axiom: I detest pecking on keyboards... ========== Encryption ========== Compose a message. (a) If you don't use pico, invoke the alternate editor then compose. (b) If you do use pico, compose then invoke the alternate editor. When you (a) exit your editor or (b) invoke the alternate editor, mkpgp will ask: Include encrypted attachment(s)? [n] At every prompt, simply hit the key if you want what's in []. (This can be important; don't give mkpgp needless input. Remember my first axiom.) Enter y and hit if you want to include attachments in the message text (thereby encrypting them). A primitive browser will let you navigate the file system and attach files and dirs. You select attachments by number. Hit on a blank line to move up one directory. Selecting a single directory is ambiguous (since you are navigating the directories with the same browser), so you are further prompted to "Enter or Attach? [e]" it. Hit to enter, enter a and hit to attach it. If a directory is a member of a list, mkpgp assumes it is an attachment. After collecting all the attachments, enter f and hit . $PGPPATH/tmp/mkpgpAttach is listed and you are a given a chance edit it. If you elect to do so, mkpgp will cd to $PGPPATH/tmp/mkpgpAttach and start a /bin/csh. Do what you will, and use the csh command "exit" to return to mkpgp. mkpgp copies attachments into $PGPPATH/tmp/mkpgpAttach. When you exit the browser, $PGPPATH/tmp/mkpgpAttach is tar'ed, compress, uuencoded and appended to the message text as ascii. $PGPPATH/tmp/mkpgpAttach is then removed. Next, pgp will show your pubkey ring and mkpgp will ask: Enter recipient key id(s) [none]. List the recipient key id(s) separated by blanks, or hit if you don't want to encrypt the message. pgp will show your seckey ring and mkpgp will ask: Sign the message with a secret key? [n] y selects the key defined by MyName in $PGPPATH/config.txt. You can select an alternate by giving a keyid (If you enter n, mkpgp will look for a key with n in it. Bad news... Remember the first axiom. Also, beware of the ENCRYPTTOSELF option if you select an alternate key.) If you elect to sign the message, pgp will request a pass phrase. pgp goes to work on the message. There is a 5 second delay when pgp is finished so you can see what happened. After that you should be looking at the message in the Pine compose window. Send it. If ENCRYPTTOSELF=on, you can decrypt the copy of the message in sent-mail. If ENCRYPTTOSELF=off and you didn't include yourself as a recipient, you might as well delete it. The actual pgp commands/options used by mkpgp are: pgp -sew +encrypttoself=$ENCRYPTTOSELF +armor=on +keepbinary=off \ +armorlines=0 +tmp=$PGPPATH/tmp $1 $keys $sign pgp -satw +clearsig=on +encrypttoself=$ENCRYPTTOSELF +keepbinary=off \ +tmp=$PGPPATH/tmp $1 $sign or pgp -ew +encrypttoself=$ENCRYPTTOSELF +armor=on +keepbinary=off \ +armorlines=0 +tmp=$PGPPATH/tmp $1 $keys $1 is /tmp/pico.xxxx, $keys is the list of keys, $sign is the key id used to sign the message. There are several other calls to pgp to wipe and delete temporary files. ========== Decryption ========== The only way to decrypt in pine is in a reply or forward since that is your only access to the alternate editor. Decryption seems to work ok in a forward; replies are still flakey because of the variety of quote characters people use (I'll fix this when I have time). If mkpgp finds "BEGIN PGP MESSAGE" or "BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE" in the message, it will run the command: pgp +force +interactive=on +keepbinary=off and attempt to mimic the forward/reply behavior of Pine. If, along the way, begin 600 mkpgpAttach.tar.Z is found in the message text, mkpgp will unpack the attachments and move the mkpgpAttach directory into $PGPPATH (renaming it if needed). The mkpgpAttach.tar.Z file is wiped & deleted. You are given a chance to examine/delete the attachments (exiting the c-shell as before). If mkpgp finds "BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK" mkpgp runs pgp +force +interactive=on +keepbinary=off to add keys. This only works in a forward and attachments aren't unpacked. (It's easy to fix, I just haven't done it yet. It was an afterthought). Let me know how it goes. I'm open to input, but I want to keep it simple. Contact me again if you want the updates. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 24 00:13:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20997; Wed, 24 Aug 94 00:13:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19765; Wed, 24 Aug 94 00:09:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19759; Wed, 24 Aug 94 00:09:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdC8k-00000QC; Tue, 23 Aug 94 23:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Printing contents of folders Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 23:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <33d6h7$1p8@access3.digex.net> Coming in Pine 3.90... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 23 Aug 1994, G. Mayner wrote: > Can anyone tell me if it is possible to print the entire contents of a > folder without printing each item in the folder individually? I would > appreciate any help you can give me. I prefer an E-Mail response. It's > difficult for me to get to the newsgroups. > > Thanks, > > Garry > > gmayner@access.digex.net > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 24 00:13:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21005; Wed, 24 Aug 94 00:13:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11371; Wed, 24 Aug 94 00:09:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11365; Wed, 24 Aug 94 00:09:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdC8i-00000MC; Tue, 23 Aug 94 23:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: 22 August ? Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 22:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Since when do you believe a projected release date? ;) |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA >>Tomorrow is always a day away<< On Tue, 23 Aug 1994, Scott McWilliams wrote: > > Just went looking for the 3.90 version. Did the 22 Aug date get pushed back? > > ------------------ - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------------------------------ > | Scott A. McWilliams Internet: Scott_McWilliams@bih.harvard.edu | > | Sysadmin, Postmaster | > | | > | Snail: Beth Israel Hospital | > | Network Services | > | Mail Stop BL-320 Vox: +1 617.735.5559 | > | 330 Brookline Avenue Facs: +1 617.735.3966 | > | Boston, Mass. 02215 | > -------------------- - -Deinimid iarracht ni/os fearr!- - ------------------ > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 24 00:13:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21043; Wed, 24 Aug 94 00:13:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11379; Wed, 24 Aug 94 00:09:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11373; Wed, 24 Aug 94 00:09:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdC9L-00000VC; Tue, 23 Aug 94 23:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: sendmail alternatives Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 23:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I presume so. Don't forget to include /bin/spell and /etc/passwd as well... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 23 Aug 1994, Noel Hunter wrote: > On Mon, 22 Aug 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > You can point to an SMTP server by setting the smtp-server variable in your > > .pinerc file. Other than that, there is nothing short of a source change... > > > > How does a non-root user point pine at something besides sendmail? > > Would it be possible to set up a chroot environment and create your own > /usr/lib/sendmail in it? > > * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * > * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 24 03:33:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26219; Wed, 24 Aug 94 03:33:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22333; Wed, 24 Aug 94 03:29:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22327; Wed, 24 Aug 94 03:29:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdFJc-00000MC; Wed, 24 Aug 94 03:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sst@infinet.com (Stephen Tonnison) Subject: How to change author name? Date: 24 Aug 1994 08:57:27 GMT Message-Id: <33f21n$b2m@rigel.infinet.com> I apologize if this question has been asked many times before- I'm sure it has. I'm new to the Net and would like to find out how to change the way my "author" name is listed when I post a message to Usenet. Right now my full name is listed but I would like to change this to something else. Would anyone be interested in giving me an easy to follow way of doing this? Thanks!! -- Stephen sst@infinet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 24 04:18:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27925; Wed, 24 Aug 94 04:18:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14791; Wed, 24 Aug 94 04:14:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14785; Wed, 24 Aug 94 04:14:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdG1n-000008C; Wed, 24 Aug 94 03:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ksbrooks@kimbark.uchicago.edu (kevin sawad brooks) Subject: Q:Managing Mailing List in Pine Message-Id: <1994Aug23.233219.19898@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 23:32:19 GMT Could someone tell me if there's a way to have Pine automatically place new messages from a mailing list into a separate folder? Thanks, Kevin Brooks ksbrooks@midway.uchicago.edu -- ah! it's gift AND counter-gift. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 24 04:34:23 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28244; Wed, 24 Aug 94 04:34:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23425; Wed, 24 Aug 94 04:30:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23418; Wed, 24 Aug 94 04:30:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdGDe-00000LC; Wed, 24 Aug 94 04:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: salazar@luther.ced.berkeley.edu (Sheryl C Salazar) Subject: pine ftp site? Date: 24 Aug 1994 00:06:46 GMT Message-Id: <33e2um$9n7@agate.berkeley.edu> where can i download the latest and greatest pine version? (for sgi workstations). thanks, -- carrie From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 24 06:24:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01407; Wed, 24 Aug 94 06:24:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16418; Wed, 24 Aug 94 06:19:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16412; Wed, 24 Aug 94 06:19:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdHwS-00000QC; Wed, 24 Aug 94 06:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andy@cs.city.ac.uk (Andy Whitcroft) Subject: Re: Latest Pine Date: 24 Aug 1994 12:23:46 GMT Message-Id: <33fe4i$960@bambam.cs.city.ac.uk> References: Ed Greshko (egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com) wrote: : The latest version of pine is 3.89....howerver, best you wait : a short time and get pine 3.90. It will be on ftp.cac.washington.edu. : Inside "sources" indicate it will be worth the wait..... Indeed they do. However, (and I don't mean to complain about what is free software) the 22nd is the second release date that has been missed. The previous seemingly several months back so I'm not exactly going to hold my breath waiting. As 3.89 seems to dump core on exit on our systems I had been waiting for the next release before trying to fix it (as it may have been fixed after all), but it looks like I'm going to have to fix it myself 8(. Andy. -- Andy Whitcroft EMail: andy@cs.city.ac.uk (MIME) Systems Support, Computer Science, Tel: +44 71 477 8550, Fax: 8587 City University, London, UK. http://web.cs.city.ac.uk/finger?andy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 24 06:58:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02213; Wed, 24 Aug 94 06:58:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25339; Wed, 24 Aug 94 06:53:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25333; Wed, 24 Aug 94 06:53:00 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA26537; Wed, 24 Aug 94 21:52:57 +0800 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 21:52:56 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: pine ftp site? To: Sheryl C Salazar Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <33e2um$9n7@agate.berkeley.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 24 Aug 1994, Sheryl C Salazar wrote: > where can i download the latest and greatest pine version? > (for sgi workstations). You can ftp source from ftp.cac.washington.edu in the pine directory. There are binaries available...but not for SGI. You'll have to compile yourself. I do suggest you wait a "few more days" as the next version of pine is due out soon. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 24 07:06:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02588; Wed, 24 Aug 94 07:06:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25487; Wed, 24 Aug 94 07:01:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25481; Wed, 24 Aug 94 07:01:36 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA26768; Wed, 24 Aug 94 22:02:41 +0800 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 22:02:40 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Latest Pine To: Andy Whitcroft Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <33fe4i$960@bambam.cs.city.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 24 Aug 1994, Andy Whitcroft wrote: > Ed Greshko (egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com) wrote: > : The latest version of pine is 3.89....howerver, best you wait > : a short time and get pine 3.90. It will be on ftp.cac.washington.edu. > > : Inside "sources" indicate it will be worth the wait..... > > Indeed they do. However, (and I don't mean to complain about what is > free software) the 22nd is the second release date that has been missed. > The previous seemingly several months back so I'm not exactly going to > hold my breath waiting. As David Miller said...you never believe release dates do you? You should check out comp.sys.solaris and observe the discussion concerning the release of Solaris 2.4....that's even more fasinating. > As 3.89 seems to dump core on exit on our systems I had been waiting > for the next release before trying to fix it (as it may have been fixed > after all), but it looks like I'm going to have to fix it myself 8(. Well, I'm "89.999" percent sure they are close to a release.... ;-) So, you've waited this long, hold on. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 24 08:45:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06133; Wed, 24 Aug 94 08:45:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27149; Wed, 24 Aug 94 08:37:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ultrix.ramapo.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27137; Wed, 24 Aug 94 08:37:31 -0700 Received: by ultrix (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA12519; Wed, 24 Aug 1994 11:37:25 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 11:37:25 -0400 From: smann@ultrix.ramapo.edu (Steve-"Ill build your dreams with these 2 hands") Message-Id: <9408241537.AA12519@ultrix> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug in Pine I just entered pine and exited after reading a couple of messages and deleting a couple others. Instead of getting the opportunity to save already read messages, pine exited and I got a message that says the following: Bug in Pine detected: "Bad msgno in mail_fetchstructure". Exiting pine. zsh: 12458 floating point exception (core dumped) pine -i Yes, I use the zsh. Also, I do start pine with the -i option. I know this is fairly obvious but....well, you know. Any ideas on what this may be? Thanx in advance. Steve "If you choose not to decide, you'll still have made a choice..." -RUSH ================================================================== / Steve M Insignificant message goes here \ | CCIS: 529-7500 x7922 \|||/ | | Home: 722-1632 0 * | | Beeper: 1-800-502-2775 or 201-909-1575 oo0 ^ 0oo | | Email: smann@ultrix.ramapo.edu ~~~~~~~~~ | \ This line left blank for no reason / ================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 24 11:45:54 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15529; Wed, 24 Aug 94 11:45:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22522; Wed, 24 Aug 94 11:28:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ultrix.ramapo.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22516; Wed, 24 Aug 94 11:28:47 -0700 Received: by ultrix (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA20052; Wed, 24 Aug 1994 14:28:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 14:28:40 -0400 From: smann@ultrix.ramapo.edu (Steve-"Ill build your dreams with these 2 hands") Message-Id: <9408241828.AA20052@ultrix> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Editor=emacs Hi, In the .pinerc file, there is an opportunity for one to change the default internal editor for pine. I am running 3.89 on Ultrix 4.4. I want to change this editor to emacs. I did editor= obviously replacing the pathname with what it should be. I don't get emacs. I still get pico. Any ideas? TIA Muchly. Steve "If you choose not to decide, you'll still have made a choice..." -RUSH ================================================================== / Steve M Insignificant message goes here \ | CCIS: 529-7500 x7922 \|||/ | | Home: 722-1632 0 * | | Beeper: 1-800-502-2775 or 201-909-1575 oo0 ^ 0oo | | Email: smann@ultrix.ramapo.edu ~~~~~~~~~ | \ This line left blank for no reason / ================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 24 13:54:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20819; Wed, 24 Aug 94 13:54:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03863; Wed, 24 Aug 94 13:40:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from jade.saintmarys.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03857; Wed, 24 Aug 94 13:40:08 -0700 Received: by jade.saintmarys.edu (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA017901009; Wed, 24 Aug 1994 15:43:29 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 15:43:28 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Mandell Subject: Managing address lists in 3.89 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <1994Aug23.233219.19898@midway.uchicago.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I frequently have requests to add a list of names to other user's address lists. I recall screwing things up when I simply append to .address files...without knowing what I'm doing. It would be a great help if someone could post information regarding the format of .address files, and a technique for appending names to an existing file. Dan -- ===================================== Dan Mandell, Computer Services, Saint Mary's College Internet: dmandell@saintmarys.edu "Others promise you the World. We deliver!": New York Times From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 24 21:23:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06093; Wed, 24 Aug 94 21:23:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02700; Wed, 24 Aug 94 21:00:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02694; Wed, 24 Aug 94 21:00:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdViK-00000MC; Wed, 24 Aug 94 20:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rjmst30+@pitt.edu (Reid J Mullen) Subject: Re: Setting Reply-to: in Pine Date: 25 Aug 1994 03:40:25 GMT Message-Id: <33h3r9$et0@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> References: <33f7u3$dgh@inferno.mpx.com.au> <33h393$et0@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Sorry-I mis-read the posting Pls ignore the TIN info follow-up Reid J Mullen (rjmst30+@pitt.edu) wrote: : Cameron Martin (cameron@jolt.mpx.com.au) wrote: : : I hope this is not too much of a FAQ/RTFM -- : : But how do I set a one-off Reply-to: in pine? The "rich" headers don't : : seem to be very rich in this respect, and if I just put "Reply-to: ...." : : in the body of the mail, then it is not recognised as a header. : I am new to UNIX so this may not be the best way, but it : worked for me: : change dir to .tin cd .tin : using your text editor open a file called Replyto : in the first col and line of file type in the address you want : save file : now do chmod +x ReplyTo : then do rehash : Not sure the last two items are necessary, but it did work for me : Good luck From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 24 21:30:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06263; Wed, 24 Aug 94 21:30:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12295; Wed, 24 Aug 94 21:15:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12289; Wed, 24 Aug 94 21:15:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdVvp-00000VC; Wed, 24 Aug 94 20:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: paulg@Xerox.com (Paul J. Graziano) Subject: Help getting this feed via a maillist needed... Message-Id: <1994Aug24.150528.28835@news.wrc.xerox.com> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 15:05:28 GMT Help! Not for me, for my wife. She uses pine, and she doesn't have access to a usenet feed. She would like to get this newsgroup via a mailing list. Could someone please help her out? Send mail to her at: njg@rfc.comm.harris.com Thanks - she is familiar with listservers, if that's required... --- ~Paul Work: pjg.wbst205LL@Xerox.com Home: graz@rochgte.fidonet.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 24 22:16:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07231; Wed, 24 Aug 94 22:16:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03544; Wed, 24 Aug 94 22:05:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03538; Wed, 24 Aug 94 22:05:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdWiZ-00000QC; Wed, 24 Aug 94 21:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calfeld@eratosth (Chris Alfeld) Subject: Re: How do you enable "Bounce" command? Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 02:52:24 GMT Message-Id: <1994Aug25.025224.1192@math.utah.edu> References: <33ga8h$n0o@crl5.crl.com> David S. Eitelbach (dseitel@crl.com) wrote: : I added to .pinerc the line "feature-list=enable-bounce-cmd", : but all that does is to change the error message from one that : says the "B" command is "not available for this screen" to one : that says "Bounce command not implemented yet". I think it's a feature that'll be implemented in the newer versions. -- -Chris (calfeld@math.utah.edu calfeld@east.east-slc.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 24 22:35:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07600; Wed, 24 Aug 94 22:35:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03793; Wed, 24 Aug 94 22:25:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03787; Wed, 24 Aug 94 22:25:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdX38-00000QC; Wed, 24 Aug 94 22:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Can Pine play Audio attachments? Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 17:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <22AUG199413062526@reg.triumf.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <22AUG199413062526@reg.triumf.ca> Pine 3.90 will support .mailcap. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 22 Aug 1994, A.Daviel wrote: > Can Pine play Audio attachments? If not, why not? > I sort of expected it to use .mailcap and .mime.types > like Mosaic to spawn something.I've got Pine 3.89 > on Linux. > .... later.. > grepping around in the source I see there is support for audio > for Suns. Perhaps I can hack something.. > > -- >

> Andrew Daviel, Vancouver, Canada (advax@triumf.ca)

> Andrew Daviel, > > TRIUMF - home of the world's largest cyclotron

>

.sig > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 24 22:40:54 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07719; Wed, 24 Aug 94 22:40:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13526; Wed, 24 Aug 94 22:25:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13519; Wed, 24 Aug 94 22:25:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdX2H-00000PC; Wed, 24 Aug 94 22:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: pine/procmail alert Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 16:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <33bdci$nrh@news.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <33bdci$nrh@news.u.washington.edu> Pine only notifies you of new mail in the INBOX and the currently open folder, and it does distinguish those. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 22 Aug 1994, Jody Klymak wrote: > Hi, > > I've got procmail set up to send my mail into four or five > directories. I have configured my .pinerc so that these directories > are known to pine as incoming-folders. This all works fine. > > The problem now is that when I am notified of new mail, I have to > look through five folders to see where it is! > > Is there any way to get pine to say which incloming-folder has new mail? > Or is there any way to configure my .procmailrc so that it sends a > message of the sort > New mail in folder foo! > Any help or ideas would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Jody > > jklymak@ocean.washington.edu > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 24 22:59:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08041; Wed, 24 Aug 94 22:59:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13884; Wed, 24 Aug 94 22:50:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13878; Wed, 24 Aug 94 22:50:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdXPy-00000PC; Wed, 24 Aug 94 22:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Garbage in Pico editor. Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 21:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <33gn07$j4h@potogold.rmii.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <33gn07$j4h@potogold.rmii.com> I went looking for that stray character bug a while back, but didn't find it. It does seem to change which character gets displayed between versions... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 25 Aug 1994, Scott Mckinsey wrote: > I have the pine-3.89 package, and am using linux 1.1.45 with ncurses 1.8.5 > The problem is that in the upper left hand corner of Pico is one > character of garbage. I think the same thing was happening with ncurses > 1.8.1. I've recompiled with no effect. > > Anyone seen this? > > Scott M. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 24 23:28:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08637; Wed, 24 Aug 94 23:28:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14373; Wed, 24 Aug 94 23:15:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14367; Wed, 24 Aug 94 23:15:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdXou-00000PC; Wed, 24 Aug 94 22:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine Global Address Book Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 21:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <33girb$l63@galaxy.bloomu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <33girb$l63@galaxy.bloomu.edu> Wait for Pine 3.90, which is due out any day now... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 24 Aug 1994, Greg E. Myers wrote: > > Does anyone know of a way to do a system-wide global address book for > pine that would be available to all users while allowing each user to > also maintain his/her own personal address book in Pine??? > > Greg Myers > gem@dec.bloomu.edu > gem@planetx.bloomu.edu > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 24 23:28:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08660; Wed, 24 Aug 94 23:28:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04419; Wed, 24 Aug 94 23:15:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04413; Wed, 24 Aug 94 23:15:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdXok-00000MC; Wed, 24 Aug 94 22:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Where does DOS & PC-Pine get timezone? Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 21:29:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: DOS uses the TZ environment variable. Note that the rfc822_date() function is very OS-dependent and uses different code for different platforms... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 24 Aug 1994, Alex Nishri wrote: > PC-Pine is getting the time and timezone information in the rfc822 "Date:" > header correct in the mail that I send. But where does it get its > information from? Looking at the source, I see that it uses tzset(), time(), > and localtime() to do its magic; I know how these routines work on my Unix > machine. But where do these C routines get to know about timezones on my > MS-DOS machine? There doesn't appear to be any way to set the timezone in DOS? > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 00:45:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10346; Thu, 25 Aug 94 00:45:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05442; Thu, 25 Aug 94 00:31:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05436; Thu, 25 Aug 94 00:31:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdYyB-00000ZC; Thu, 25 Aug 94 00:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: texmex@pentagon.io.com (texmex) Subject: Re: Help with headers! Date: 24 Aug 1994 14:54:07 -0500 Message-Id: <33g8gv$c3t@pentagon.io.com> References: <1994Aug21.215156.1@leif> In article , David L Miller wrote: > >That feature is not available in Pine 3.89 and earlier, but will be >available in Pine 3.90. > >|\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 >|/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) >University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 >4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > >On 21 Aug 1994 jpeet@kean.ucs.mun.ca wrote: > >> Hi There! >> I need to know how to edit my header and where to put X-Anon-To: in it. >> Can anybody help me? >> Thanks in advance. When I want to add/change a header to a mail (e.g., Reply-To:), I just edit it directly. I start the msg, Postpone it, and then edit ~/Mail/postponed-mail, insert whatever I want, and resume composing. Hmmmm. I just tried it and "Reply-To" was fine, but all my X-headers got eaten. No help there. If you are asking about anonymous news posting using penet, I would just followup as normal (To preserve the "references line" and the correct format of the attibution) , edit the article within rn/trn, and select the "Abort" option after exiting the editor. At that point, trn will tell you "a copy may temporarily be found in .article". (Note: this is the behavior of trn - I don't know beans 'about TIN or nn or anything else.) So I would then "!awk -f simple.awk < ~/.article|Rnmail -h" The awk program would insert an apropriate "to", change the "newsgroups" header field to "x-anon", and whatever else you need to do. Of course, you could do all this yourself in the editor.... So, I've got a kludge for Reply-To, but if I wanted to anon-post... Steve "...I'd wait for 3.90" Patlan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 02:22:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12735; Thu, 25 Aug 94 02:22:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16959; Thu, 25 Aug 94 02:05:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16953; Thu, 25 Aug 94 02:05:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdaVp-00000aC; Thu, 25 Aug 94 01:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dseitel@crl.com (David S. Eitelbach) Subject: How do you enable "Bounce" command? Date: 24 Aug 1994 13:23:45 -0700 Message-Id: <33ga8h$n0o@crl5.crl.com> I added to .pinerc the line "feature-list=enable-bounce-cmd", but all that does is to change the error message from one that says the "B" command is "not available for this screen" to one that says "Bounce command not implemented yet". Is this the dead end it appears to be? Thanks, David S. Eitelbach dseitel@crl.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 03:15:38 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13944; Thu, 25 Aug 94 03:15:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07501; Thu, 25 Aug 94 03:01:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07474; Thu, 25 Aug 94 03:01:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdbJL-00000QC; Thu, 25 Aug 94 02:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cameron@jolt.mpx.com.au (Cameron Martin) Subject: Setting Reply-to: in Pine Date: 24 Aug 1994 10:37:55 GMT Message-Id: <33f7u3$dgh@inferno.mpx.com.au> I hope this is not too much of a FAQ/RTFM -- But how do I set a one-off Reply-to: in pine? The "rich" headers don't seem to be very rich in this respect, and if I just put "Reply-to: ...." in the body of the mail, then it is not recognised as a header. Any ideas? (Oh and _is_ there a Pine FAQ out there?) __ Cameron Martin __ __ _ _ __ ___ _ _ ___ _ _ / _/ _` | ' \/ -_) '_/ _ \ ' \ \__\__,_|_|_|_\___|_| \___/_||_| cameron@mpx.com.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 04:07:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15817; Thu, 25 Aug 94 04:07:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18436; Thu, 25 Aug 94 03:56:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18430; Thu, 25 Aug 94 03:56:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdcAT-00000PC; Thu, 25 Aug 94 03:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Subject: Re: sendmail alternatives Message-Id: <1994Aug24.131800.25638@cc.usu.edu> Date: 24 Aug 94 13:17:59 MDT References: "sendmail-alternative=" seems like an excellent candidate for a .pinerc entry to me. Don't most mail agents let the user point them to something besides sendmail? In article , David L Miller wrote: > >I presume so. Don't forget to include /bin/spell and /etc/passwd as well... > >|\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 >|/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) >University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 >4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > >On Tue, 23 Aug 1994, Noel Hunter wrote: > >> On Mon, 22 Aug 1994, David L Miller wrote: >> >> > You can point to an SMTP server by setting the smtp-server variable in your >> > .pinerc file. Other than that, there is nothing short of a source change... >> >> > > How does a non-root user point pine at something besides sendmail? >> >> Would it be possible to set up a chroot environment and create your own >> /usr/lib/sendmail in it? >> >> * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * >> * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * >> >> >> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 05:13:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17462; Thu, 25 Aug 94 05:13:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09533; Thu, 25 Aug 94 05:01:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09527; Thu, 25 Aug 94 05:01:42 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA11991; Thu, 25 Aug 94 20:02:32 +0800 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 20:02:31 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Setting Reply-to: in Pine To: Cameron Martin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <33f7u3$dgh@inferno.mpx.com.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 24 Aug 1994, Cameron Martin wrote: > I hope this is not too much of a FAQ/RTFM -- Yes, this is a VFAQ....but since there isn't an FAQ out yet and since it isn't in the FM because it is not yet supported... > But how do I set a one-off Reply-to: in pine? The "rich" headers don't > seem to be very rich in this respect, and if I just put "Reply-to: ...." > in the body of the mail, then it is not recognised as a header. > > Any ideas? You wait a few more days for the release of 3.90...... > (Oh and _is_ there a Pine FAQ out there?) This is also a work in progress. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 05:56:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18209; Thu, 25 Aug 94 05:56:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10216; Thu, 25 Aug 94 05:49:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [147.177.128.2] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10210; Thu, 25 Aug 94 05:49:24 -0700 Received: from postoffice.rfc.comm.harris.com (postoffice.rfc.comm.harris.com [147.177.0.1]) by adm01.rfc.comm.harris.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA17869 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 1994 08:49:22 -0400 Received: by postoffice.rfc.comm.harris.com (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA08746; Thu, 25 Aug 1994 08:49:19 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 08:48:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Nancy J Graziano Subject: Thanks To: pine-info list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I want to thank everyone who was kind enough to forward to me the necessary information to subscribe to this list. It was and IS greatly appreciated. /\/ancy :-) Hurry Back Ernie!!!!! Go Rusty & Bill! Go Kevin Lepage!! Go Tommy & Bobby Archer!!! Let's Go Mets!!!! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - _____ ____......------'-----`------......_____ -=======================================================- `-----....._________.....-----' ____ \ | / ____ (____) __/_|_\__ (____) \\_________.-'_.-----._`-._________// `---------`.. `-----' ..'---------' `~~~~~~~' njg@rfc.comm.harris.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 08:38:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22803; Thu, 25 Aug 94 08:38:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12998; Thu, 25 Aug 94 08:27:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12992; Thu, 25 Aug 94 08:27:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdgS4-00000PC; Thu, 25 Aug 94 08:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lc@oasis.icl.co.uk (Liam Crilly) Subject: Re: Editor=emacs Message-Id: References: <9408241828.AA20052@ultrix> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 11:43:52 GMT Steve-"Ill build your dreams with these 2 hands wrote: ğHi, ğ In the .pinerc file, there is an opportunity for one to ğchange the default internal editor for pine. There is no such opportunity. This is taken from the default .pinerc file: ----- # editor specifies the program invoked by ^_ in the Composer. # This is normally an alternative to Pine's internal composer (Pico) editor= ----- I think that explains it nicely. Liam. -- 8"88"""8P"48"V"8 Liam Crilly 8"88"""8P"48"V"8 8 "88 88 " 8 8 lc@oasis.icl.co.uk 8 "88 88 " 8 8 8oo8ooo8o8o8oYo8 L.Crilly@herts.ac.uk 8oo8ooo8o8o8oYo8 ++ Performance Benchmarking Unit, Client-Server Systems, ICL, Bracknell. ++ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 08:43:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23044; Thu, 25 Aug 94 08:43:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23349; Thu, 25 Aug 94 08:31:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23343; Thu, 25 Aug 94 08:31:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdgTH-00000VC; Thu, 25 Aug 94 08:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bfriesen@iphase.com (Bob Friesenhahn) Subject: NIS & /etc/password GCOS lookup in Pine? Date: 24 Aug 1994 15:06:36 GMT Message-Id: <33fnls$7nq@que.iphase.com> One of the few things I really like about elm is its capability to automatically look up a local user's full name given their user id and expand the address to include their full name. Besides being more pleasant, it serves as a confirmation that the user name has been entered correctly. Unfortunately, the only similar behavior I have seen in Pine is with addresses in the addressbook. Does anyone know a way of extending Pine to add data obtained from NIS or the /etc/passwd file to the address line? Thanks, Bob --- Bob Friesenhahn, Interphase bfriesen@iphase.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 09:20:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25193; Thu, 25 Aug 94 09:20:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24448; Thu, 25 Aug 94 09:12:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24442; Thu, 25 Aug 94 09:12:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdh7h-00000VC; Thu, 25 Aug 94 08:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Q:Managing Mailing List in Pine Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 08:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <1994Aug23.233219.19898@midway.uchicago.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994Aug23.233219.19898@midway.uchicago.edu> No, there is not. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 23 Aug 1994, kevin sawad brooks wrote: > Could someone tell me if there's a way to > have Pine automatically place new messages > from a mailing list into a separate folder? > > Thanks, > > Kevin Brooks > ksbrooks@midway.uchicago.edu > > -- > ah! it's gift AND counter-gift. > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 09:23:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25297; Thu, 25 Aug 94 09:23:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14273; Thu, 25 Aug 94 09:12:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14267; Thu, 25 Aug 94 09:12:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdh7g-00000PC; Thu, 25 Aug 94 08:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: TakeAddress to distribution list Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 08:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Not until Pine 3.90 comes out... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 24 Aug 1994, M. Hotti wrote: > > Is there a way to take address from the current message and > add it to a distribution list? key takes the address and > binds it to an individual nickname - adding to a list-nickname > doesn't seem to work. > > -Marko- > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Marko Hotti University of Oulu > Faculty of Medicine > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 10:08:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27462; Thu, 25 Aug 94 10:08:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25635; Thu, 25 Aug 94 10:00:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from lobby2b.ti.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25629; Thu, 25 Aug 94 10:00:26 -0700 Received: from tilde.csc.ti.com by lobby2b.ti.com with SMTP (8.6.8.1/LAI-3.2) id LAA00140; Thu, 25 Aug 1994 11:58:06 -0500 Received: from jeepney.sh.sc.ti.com (ews-sherman1.sh-gpl.ti.com) by tilde.csc.ti.com id AA15542; Thu, 25 Aug 1994 11:59:55 -0500 Received: from jeepney (jeepney.ARPA) by jeepney.sh.sc.ti.com (4.1/5.17) id AA07418; Thu, 25 Aug 94 12:05:08 CDT Posted-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 12:05:08 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 12:05:08 -0500 (CDT) From: "Joseph G. Manalang" Subject: Pine 3.90 One Day Sale To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Has anyone ftp'd the 3.90 version during the one day sale (Aug 22)? I would like to test it... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 10:12:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27595; Thu, 25 Aug 94 10:12:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15598; Thu, 25 Aug 94 10:03:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uxc.cso.uiuc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15592; Thu, 25 Aug 94 10:03:55 -0700 Received: from morgana.pubserv.com by uxc.cso.uiuc.edu with UUCP id AA14451 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 25 Aug 1994 11:44:12 -0500 Received: by morgana.pubserv.com id AA20900 (5.64+/IDA-1.3.3 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 25 Aug 94 11:29:45 -0500 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 94 11:29:45 -0500 From: Brian Larkin Message-Id: <9408251629.AA20900@morgana.pubserv.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Extra mail? Deleted mail? We have pine 3.89 here (can't wait for 3.90....), and have been experiencing some problems with messages. My purpose to posting this here is to see if any of you have experienced similar things. Several of my users complain that after printing their message (with the Y command using the lpr setting) the message gets deleted in their mailbox. For the most part this seems to happen in mailboxes that are _NOT_ the INBOX. Several others have mentioned that sometimes they get "extra" copies of messages. I have checked the maillogs (every message gets logged into a file) and only one message was sent, therebye leading me to believe that this problem is related to Pine's handling of mail connections. If anybody has any thoughts or pointers for tracking down this problem please email to brianl@pubserv.com. My experience to pine is mostly related to installing it, as I do not use it as my primary mail-agent. Most of my users, though, are not very experienced with UNIX, nevermind, Pine, so I tend to think that this is due to the old faithful crutch "operator error". :) For the record: Sequent S27's DYNIX V3.1.2 Pine Clients running only on the Sequents. -- Brian ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian D. Larkin TEL: (217) 398 - 2060 brianl@pubserv.com Publication Services, Inc. Programming Supervisor 1802 South Duncan Road Research & Development Champaign, IL 61820 U.S.A. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 10:15:28 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27766; Thu, 25 Aug 94 10:15:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15765; Thu, 25 Aug 94 10:07:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15759; Thu, 25 Aug 94 10:07:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdhwx-00000PC; Thu, 25 Aug 94 09:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dave King Subject: Re: Editor=emacs In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 15:23:13 GMT Pine's default editor --------------------- =20 Although Pine3.89 cannot invoke the alternate editor automatically, Pine3.90 has an "enable-alternate-editor-implicitly" feature. If this feature, and the "editor" variable are both set, Pine will automatically activate the specified editor when the cursor is moved from the header of the message being composed into the message text.=20 =20 For replies, the alternate editor will be activated immediately. So, if you would like to use a _default_ editor other than Pico, hang on for Pine3.90 ... you won't be disappointed. =20 Dave ___________________________________________________________________ Dave King Admin. Computing Services Manager, University of Bristol RFC-822: Dave.King@bristol.ac.uk X.400: G=3DDave;S=3DKing;O=3Dbristol;P=3DUK.AC;C=3DGB=20 Telephone: 0117 9303961=20 On Thu, 25 Aug 1994, Liam Crilly wrote: > Steve-"Ill build your dreams with these 2 hands wrote: > =BBHi, > =BB=09In the .pinerc file, there is an opportunity for one to > =BBchange the default internal editor for pine. >=20 > There is no such opportunity. This is taken from the default=20 > .pinerc file: >=20 > ----- > # editor specifies the program invoked by ^_ in the Composer. > # This is normally an alternative to Pine's internal composer (Pico) > editor=3D > ----- >=20 > I think that explains it nicely. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 10:36:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28900; Thu, 25 Aug 94 10:36:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16288; Thu, 25 Aug 94 10:26:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from dutepp6.et.tudelft.nl by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16282; Thu, 25 Aug 94 10:26:46 -0700 Received: by dutepp6.et.tudelft.nl id AA12479 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 25 Aug 1994 19:26:33 +0200 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 19:26:32 +0200 (MET DST) From: Richard Kooijman Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 One Day Sale To: "Joseph G. Manalang" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 25 Aug 1994, Joseph G. Manalang wrote: > Has anyone ftp'd the 3.90 version during the one day sale (Aug 22)? I > would like to test it... I did. It is bug ridden, though, crashed my harddisk and all, so stay with version 3.89 (the Pine has been forcing you anyway since Spring). I could have known of course, since it was on sale. Richard. PS multiple ;-) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 10:39:53 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29172; Thu, 25 Aug 94 10:39:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26490; Thu, 25 Aug 94 10:32:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26484; Thu, 25 Aug 94 10:32:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdiP6-00000ZC; Thu, 25 Aug 94 10:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: Garbage in Pico editor. Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 14:35:40 GMT Message-Id: References: <33gn07$j4h@potogold.rmii.com> David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : I went looking for that stray character bug a while back, but didn't find it. : It does seem to change which character gets displayed between versions... When I was trying to track it down in 3.05 oh so long ago, I would up just changing the definition of the top line, so the line with garbage would be overwritten. I never could find where it was coming from either. It went away (on SCO) in later versions. Gunther From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 10:44:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29357; Thu, 25 Aug 94 10:44:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16622; Thu, 25 Aug 94 10:37:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16616; Thu, 25 Aug 94 10:37:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdiQ3-00000PC; Thu, 25 Aug 94 10:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mbunk@glue.umd.edu (Marseille Bunk) Subject: Anyone use pine at UMCP on glue? Date: 25 Aug 1994 15:26:24 GMT Message-Id: <33id70$hth@mojo.eng.umd.edu> I've been trying to use pine on my engineering/glue account here at UMCP in the last couple of days, and it says it is an invalid command. does anyone know what happened? All my mail/files/etc is in pine, and now I can't get to them! Marseille (mbunk@eng.umd.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 12:50:16 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05100; Thu, 25 Aug 94 12:50:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29441; Thu, 25 Aug 94 12:43:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29433; Thu, 25 Aug 94 12:43:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdkRM-00000PC; Thu, 25 Aug 94 12:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrew@andrew.triumf.ca (Andrew Daviel) Subject: Getting audio in Linux Pine Date: 25 Aug 1994 18:37:39 GMT Message-Id: <33iodj$bl2@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> I had a look at the pine 3.89 source while waiting for pine 3.9, and it's trivial. For Linux built with soundcards and /dev/audio, you can edit pine/osdep/os-lnx.ic and say "include(mimedisp.sun)" and "include(play_snd.sun)" instead of "include(mimedisp)" and "include(play_snd.non)". This then copies Audio files to /dev/audio when you ask to view an audio attachment. Andrew Daviel, TRIUMF From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 13:30:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06895; Thu, 25 Aug 94 13:30:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20761; Thu, 25 Aug 94 13:22:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20755; Thu, 25 Aug 94 13:22:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdl1s-00000PC; Thu, 25 Aug 94 13:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: entropy@IntNet.net (FLOATING OUTWARD) Subject: ...filters [FAQ] Date: 22 Aug 1994 21:42:51 -0400 Message-Id: <33bk6r$b6m@xcalibur.IntNet.net> I apologize in advance for asking what I am sure must be a FAQ on this group - I checked the relevant archival sites and was unable to find a FAQ. :( I need to know how to filter my mail into folders. Ie: all mail from wanghead@foo.com goes into the WangHead folder, all mail with "fork" in the title goes into the Fork folder, etc.. Thanks. -- ( THEY CAN STOP THE PARTY, BUT THEY CAN'T STOP THE FUTURE ) ( --------------------[ entropy@intnet.net ]------------- ) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 14:21:09 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08823; Thu, 25 Aug 94 14:21:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01710; Thu, 25 Aug 94 14:12:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01704; Thu, 25 Aug 94 14:12:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdlnx-00000PC; Thu, 25 Aug 94 13:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Bug in Pine Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 12:03:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <9408241537.AA12519@ultrix> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9408241537.AA12519@ultrix> This bug is fixed (or at least replaced ;) in Pine 3.90. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 24 Aug 1994, Steve-Ill build your dreams with these 2 hands wrote: > I just entered pine and exited after reading a couple of messages and deleting > a couple others. Instead of getting the opportunity to save already read > messages, pine exited and I got a message that says the following: > > Bug in Pine detected: "Bad msgno in mail_fetchstructure". > Exiting pine. > zsh: 12458 floating point exception (core dumped) pine -i > > Yes, I use the zsh. Also, I do start pine with the -i option. I know > this is fairly obvious but....well, you know. Any ideas on what this may be? > Thanx in advance. > > Steve > > "If you choose not to decide, you'll still have made a choice..." > -RUSH > ================================================================== > / Steve M Insignificant message goes here \ > | CCIS: 529-7500 x7922 \|||/ | > | Home: 722-1632 0 * | > | Beeper: 1-800-502-2775 or 201-909-1575 oo0 ^ 0oo | > | Email: smann@ultrix.ramapo.edu ~~~~~~~~~ | > \ This line left blank for no reason / > ================================================================= > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 16:39:07 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13680; Thu, 25 Aug 94 16:39:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25197; Thu, 25 Aug 94 16:30:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25191; Thu, 25 Aug 94 16:30:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdnzU-000008C; Thu, 25 Aug 94 16:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: Bug in Pine Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 20:18:06 GMT Message-Id: References: <9408241537.AA12519@ultrix> Steve-"Ill build your dreams with these 2 hands (smann@ultrix.ramapo.edu) wrote: : Bug in Pine detected: "Bad msgno in mail_fetchstructure". : Exiting pine. : zsh: 12458 floating point exception (core dumped) pine -i Well, it's not a normal error. I assume from your address that the machine is running Ultrix? What are your version numbers for the OS? What kind of hardware is it running on? Any other identifying information would help greatly. I don't know of any standard compilation problems that lead to that, but you might also want to send a friendly note to your local technical support group, hinting that perhaps mistakes were made in building the Pine executable there. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 16:46:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14097; Thu, 25 Aug 94 16:46:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25457; Thu, 25 Aug 94 16:37:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from faxon.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25444; Thu, 25 Aug 94 16:37:47 -0700 Received: by faxon.ca (5.4R2.01/192.139.186.253) id AA07516; Thu, 25 Aug 1994 19:35:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 19:32:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Dion Vansevenant Subject: Re: ...filters [FAQ] To: FLOATING OUTWARD Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <33bk6r$b6m@xcalibur.IntNet.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 22 Aug 1994, FLOATING OUTWARD wrote: > I apologize in advance for asking what I am sure must be a FAQ on this > group - I checked the relevant archival sites and was unable to find a > FAQ. :( > > I need to know how to filter my mail into folders. Ie: all mail from > wanghead@foo.com goes into the WangHead folder, all mail with "fork" in > the title goes into the Fork folder, etc.. > Currently there is no way for Pine to do the actual filtering of messages. You need to get 'filter' or 'procmail' and set them up to do the actual filtering, then change your .pinerc file to list Incoming Folders to place the filtered mail into. I think pine 3.90 will have filtering built-in, but don't quote me on that. Dion *----------------------------------------------* | Dion Vansevenant stu2@faxon.ca | | Systems Administrator | | Faxon/SMS Canada Ltd. (519) 472-1006 voice | | P.O. Box 2382 (519) 472-1072 fax | | London, ON | | Canada N6A 5A7 | *----------------------------------------------* If you don't change your direction - you're bound to end up where you're headed. - Chinese Proverb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 16:59:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14966; Thu, 25 Aug 94 16:59:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25930; Thu, 25 Aug 94 16:51:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25923; Thu, 25 Aug 94 16:51:41 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA19561; Fri, 26 Aug 94 07:51:53 +0800 Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 07:51:52 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 One Day Sale To: Richard Kooijman Cc: "Joseph G. Manalang" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 25 Aug 1994, Richard Kooijman wrote: > On Thu, 25 Aug 1994, Joseph G. Manalang wrote: > > > Has anyone ftp'd the 3.90 version during the one day sale (Aug 22)? I > > would like to test it... > > I did. It is bug ridden, though, crashed my harddisk and all, so stay with > version 3.89 (the Pine has been forcing you anyway since Spring). I could > have known of course, since it was on sale. Now, Now....be nice....Joseph's leg is already a few inches longer from all that pulling. :-) :-) Ed P.S. This tread just made my morning.... Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 17:26:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16391; Thu, 25 Aug 94 17:26:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26689; Thu, 25 Aug 94 17:17:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26683; Thu, 25 Aug 94 17:17:06 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA19893; Fri, 26 Aug 94 08:17:52 +0800 Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 08:17:50 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: ...filters [FAQ] To: Dion Vansevenant Cc: FLOATING OUTWARD , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 25 Aug 1994, Dion Vansevenant wrote: > On Mon, 22 Aug 1994, FLOATING OUTWARD wrote: > > > I apologize in advance for asking what I am sure must be a FAQ on this > > group - I checked the relevant archival sites and was unable to find a > > FAQ. :( > > > > I need to know how to filter my mail into folders. Ie: all mail from > > wanghead@foo.com goes into the WangHead folder, all mail with "fork" in > > the title goes into the Fork folder, etc.. > > > > Currently there is no way for Pine to do the actual filtering of > messages. You need to get 'filter' or 'procmail' and set them up to do > the actual filtering, then change your .pinerc file to list Incoming > Folders to place the filtered mail into. > > I think pine 3.90 will have filtering built-in, but don't quote me on that. *DO NOT QUOTE YOU* Filtering is *not* the task of the MUA. It will *not* be built-in in 3.90. You *must* get procmail, deliver, or filter. When responding to requests try to refrain from "I think...." answers. Incorrect information given out as a result of this can have far reaching effects. Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 18:09:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17475; Thu, 25 Aug 94 18:09:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27497; Thu, 25 Aug 94 18:01:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27473; Thu, 25 Aug 94 18:00:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdpOf-00000QC; Thu, 25 Aug 94 17:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cwg@urbino.mcc.com Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 One Day Sale Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 22:13:16 GMT "Joseph G. Manalang" wrote in article : JGM> JGM> JGM>Has anyone ftp'd the 3.90 version during the one day sale (Aug 22)? I JGM>would like to test it... You must have been tieing your shoe because that joke should have hit you in the face instead of going over your head. Chris Chris Garrigues (MIME capable) cwg@mcc.com Microelectronics and Computer Technology Corporation +1 512 338 3328 3500 West Balcones Center Fax +1 512 338 3838 Austin, TX 78759-5398 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 18:09:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17518; Thu, 25 Aug 94 18:09:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07192; Thu, 25 Aug 94 18:00:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07186; Thu, 25 Aug 94 18:00:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdpLh-00000LC; Thu, 25 Aug 94 17:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: imran@clark.net (The Fatman) Subject: Off-Line PINE reader? Date: 24 Aug 1994 22:01:50 GMT Message-Id: <33gg0e$iva@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Is there an off-line PINE reader available? One that will let me take all of my saved-messages and all that, download it to my DOS system (non-networked), and read the letters one by one? I tried PC-PINE, but the version I got required that you be linked to a network. I can read the messages as one big text file, but I'd rather read them as individual letters, sorted, is there a program that'll let me do this? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 19:19:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19535; Thu, 25 Aug 94 19:19:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08420; Thu, 25 Aug 94 19:10:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08414; Thu, 25 Aug 94 19:10:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdqTY-000008C; Thu, 25 Aug 94 18:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mckinsey@rmii.com (Scott Mckinsey) Subject: Garbage in Pico editor. Date: 25 Aug 1994 00:01:11 GMT Message-Id: <33gn07$j4h@potogold.rmii.com> I have the pine-3.89 package, and am using linux 1.1.45 with ncurses 1.8.5 The problem is that in the upper left hand corner of Pico is one character of garbage. I think the same thing was happening with ncurses 1.8.1. I've recompiled with no effect. Anyone seen this? Scott M. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 19:48:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20329; Thu, 25 Aug 94 19:48:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29279; Thu, 25 Aug 94 19:41:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29269; Thu, 25 Aug 94 19:40:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdqv1-00000LC; Thu, 25 Aug 94 19:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nishri@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Alex Nishri) Subject: Where does DOS & PC-Pine get timezone? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 23:14:44 GMT PC-Pine is getting the time and timezone information in the rfc822 "Date:" header correct in the mail that I send. But where does it get its information from? Looking at the source, I see that it uses tzset(), time(), and localtime() to do its magic; I know how these routines work on my Unix machine. But where do these C routines get to know about timezones on my MS-DOS machine? There doesn't appear to be any way to set the timezone in DOS? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 21:02:59 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21730; Thu, 25 Aug 94 21:02:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10176; Thu, 25 Aug 94 20:56:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10170; Thu, 25 Aug 94 20:56:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qds9C-000008C; Thu, 25 Aug 94 20:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gem@planetx (Greg E. Myers) Subject: Pine Global Address Book Date: 24 Aug 1994 22:50:19 GMT Message-Id: <33girb$l63@galaxy.bloomu.edu> Does anyone know of a way to do a system-wide global address book for pine that would be available to all users while allowing each user to also maintain his/her own personal address book in Pine??? Greg Myers gem@dec.bloomu.edu gem@planetx.bloomu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 21:33:54 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22370; Thu, 25 Aug 94 21:33:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01204; Thu, 25 Aug 94 21:21:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01198; Thu, 25 Aug 94 21:21:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdsXw-000008C; Thu, 25 Aug 94 21:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edelhert@connected.com (Herbert Edelhertz) Subject: Printing Internet Items Date: 24 Aug 1994 16:44:25 -0700 Message-Id: <33gm0p$5v@hebron.connected.com> I have one consistent glitch in trying to print incoming messages in Pine, as well as newsgroup items in Tin. My printer is the HPLaserJet III. When I use the "y" command in Pine, the printer has no trouble in printing the message, whether on the Input side, or from the Sent-messages folder. The only problem, or annoyance, is that the printer spits out an extra blank page. I have the same problem with printing items from newsgroups. For Pine I use the "y" command, or sometimes pipe (|), and ansiprt. For Tin I use pipe(|) and ansiprint. I have talked to others, who don't seem to have this problem. I would be most appreciative of any help here. It's not a big problem (I recycle all of the blank paper), but it is an annoyance. Many thanks for your attention. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 22:01:19 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22893; Thu, 25 Aug 94 22:01:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11040; Thu, 25 Aug 94 21:48:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11034; Thu, 25 Aug 94 21:48:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdsts-00000aC; Thu, 25 Aug 94 21:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: How do you enable "Bounce" command? Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 00:52:39 GMT Message-Id: References: <33ga8h$n0o@crl5.crl.com> David S. Eitelbach (dseitel@crl.com) wrote: : I added to .pinerc the line "feature-list=enable-bounce-cmd", : but all that does is to change the error message from one that : says the "B" command is "not available for this screen" to one : that says "Bounce command not implemented yet". Sadly, I have to say again what I'm getting tired of saying. "It's fixed in 3.90". In 3.89, the Bounce command, Pipe command and one other one in that cluster, are totally unimplemented. They're all there in 3.90, working perfectly. 3.90 was supposed to be released Monday. Now, I'm not nagging, but couldn't they at least promise us another release date? Like Friday, or next Friday? I'm holding a few system enhancements until I can get 3.90 in place, and I wonder if it's going to cost me too much time in the end. Oh, well. Anyway, 3.90 is the panacea, the cure for what ails you. It does everything you ever wanted, and even makes toast. Seriously, it's well worth the wait, no matter how long it gets. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 22:49:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23957; Thu, 25 Aug 94 22:49:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02629; Thu, 25 Aug 94 22:38:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02622; Thu, 25 Aug 94 22:38:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdteK-00000yC; Thu, 25 Aug 94 22:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: Pine Global Address Book Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 02:39:44 GMT Message-Id: References: <33girb$l63@galaxy.bloomu.edu> Greg E. Myers (gem@planetx) wrote: : Does anyone know of a way to do a system-wide global address book for : pine that would be available to all users while allowing each user to : also maintain his/her own personal address book in Pine??? No way to do that 3.89, but 3.90 does it quite well. Now, from a user's perspective, there might be a little confusion about which addressbook to look at, but both are automatically searched when a nickname is entered. Actually, 3.90 goes one better, allowing an unlimited (or at least plural) number of local addressbooks. So, if I really wanted, I could keep separate addressbooks for different purposes, all active simultaneously. The system addressbook is simply a special case of an addressbook, being read-only from Pine, no mater what the permissions on the file itself are. I don't know how they've handled the [T]ake command, which addressbook it goes into, but that's because I haven't looked into it. So, like everything else this week, 3.89->no, 3.90->yes. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 22:57:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24106; Thu, 25 Aug 94 22:57:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12148; Thu, 25 Aug 94 22:49:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12142; Thu, 25 Aug 94 22:48:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdtr8-000011C; Thu, 25 Aug 94 22:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kurgpold@mizar.usc.edu (Elmar Kurgpold) Subject: Re: Pine Global Address Book Date: 25 Aug 1994 11:02:47 -0700 Message-Id: <33imc7$7hn@mizar.usc.edu> References: <33girb$l63@galaxy.bloomu.edu> In article David L Miller writes: > >Wait for Pine 3.90, which is due out any day now... > >|\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 >|/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) >University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 >4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA [YAFR deleted (Yet Another Feature Request)] Gee, with all the great enhancments and new features that I keep hearing about in the next version, I wonder whether it would be appropriate to call it Pine 4.0 instead of Pine 3.90. It seems that for almost every request for new features that I've seen on this list has been answered by, "It'll be in 3.90." And if you don't revise the version number, what the heck is going to happen when you DO get to 4.0? The Super Deluxe Boy Scout from Hell Swiss Army Knife of MUA's, I presume? NOTE TO THE PINE TEAM: Don't answer this message, I'd much rather you spend your time getting your current project finished, which we are eagerly awaiting. :-)))) NOTE TO WHINERS: Don't bother the Pine Team. :-)))))))) (note the big smileys) Elmar ,-,,-, __ ------------------------------------- ______/ /_,' | | Elmar Kurgpold | \________________/ | University of Southern California | |\) (/ | | The Law Center | ( | oo | "My mind has wandered | ekurgpol@Law.USC.EDU | ) `| |--' from the flock, you see | (213)740-2545 FAX: (213)740-5502 | (___^^^^| And the flock has ------------------------------------- (____' wandered away from me" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 25 23:22:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24596; Thu, 25 Aug 94 23:22:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03284; Thu, 25 Aug 94 23:14:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03272; Thu, 25 Aug 94 23:14:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qduBw-000011C; Thu, 25 Aug 94 22:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rjmst30+@pitt.edu (Reid J Mullen) Subject: Re: Setting Reply-to: in Pine Date: 25 Aug 1994 03:30:43 GMT Message-Id: <33h393$et0@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> References: <33f7u3$dgh@inferno.mpx.com.au> Cameron Martin (cameron@jolt.mpx.com.au) wrote: : I hope this is not too much of a FAQ/RTFM -- : But how do I set a one-off Reply-to: in pine? The "rich" headers don't : seem to be very rich in this respect, and if I just put "Reply-to: ...." : in the body of the mail, then it is not recognised as a header. I am new to UNIX so this may not be the best way, but it worked for me: change dir to .tin cd .tin using your text editor open a file called Replyto in the first col and line of file type in the address you want save file now do chmod +x ReplyTo then do rehash Not sure the last two items are necessary, but it did work for me Good luck From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 00:05:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25325; Fri, 26 Aug 94 00:05:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13256; Thu, 25 Aug 94 23:59:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13248; Thu, 25 Aug 94 23:59:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qduuo-00001DC; Thu, 25 Aug 94 23:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: How do you enable "Bounce" command? Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 21:21:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <33ga8h$n0o@crl5.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <33ga8h$n0o@crl5.crl.com> Bounce was not yet implemented in Pine 3.89. It will be in Pine 3.90. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 24 Aug 1994, David S. Eitelbach wrote: > I added to .pinerc the line "feature-list=enable-bounce-cmd", > but all that does is to change the error message from one that > says the "B" command is "not available for this screen" to one > that says "Bounce command not implemented yet". > > Is this the dead end it appears to be? > > Thanks, > > David S. Eitelbach > dseitel@crl.com > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 00:05:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25334; Fri, 26 Aug 94 00:05:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04070; Thu, 25 Aug 94 23:59:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04064; Thu, 25 Aug 94 23:59:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qduuq-00001FC; Thu, 25 Aug 94 23:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Off-Line PINE reader? Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 21:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <33gg0e$iva@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <33gg0e$iva@clarknet.clark.net> Offline support for Pine is on our to-do list as a moderately high priority project after Pine 3.90 is stable. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 24 Aug 1994, The Fatman wrote: > > Is there an off-line PINE reader available? One that will > let me take all of my saved-messages and all that, download it to > my DOS system (non-networked), and read the letters one by one? > I tried PC-PINE, but the version I got required that you > be linked to a network. I can read the messages as one big > text file, but I'd rather read them as individual letters, sorted, > is there a program that'll let me do this? > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 00:17:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25549; Fri, 26 Aug 94 00:17:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13477; Fri, 26 Aug 94 00:10:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13471; Fri, 26 Aug 94 00:10:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdv7d-00001HC; Thu, 25 Aug 94 23:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chris.c.w.cawood@msm.bhp.com.au (Chris Cawood) Subject: Request for Info. on Pine Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 14:58:33 +1000 Message-Id: Hi, This is a general request for any information available on Pine. If possible :- Product Specs and capabilities History Info FAQ Any response would be greatly apreciated (even a source for the info or contact name/number or address). Please e-mail any relevant doc's. Regards, Chris Cawood. -- : Chris Cawood, Team Leader Network Services : /\/\ : BHP Information Technology - Melbourne / / /\ : 600 Bourke St Melbourne ,3000, AUSTRALIA / / / \ : Phone +61-3-609-2793 / / / /\ \ : E-Mail: chris.c.w.cawood@msm.bhp.com.au \ \/ / / / : \ / / / : "I too had thoughts once of being an intellectual, \/\/\/ but found it too difficult." - P.R. Darmondy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 01:04:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26834; Fri, 26 Aug 94 01:04:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05261; Fri, 26 Aug 94 00:55:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from dutepp6.et.tudelft.nl by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05255; Fri, 26 Aug 94 00:55:44 -0700 Received: by dutepp6.et.tudelft.nl id AA14778 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Fri, 26 Aug 1994 09:55:42 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 09:55:41 +0200 (MET DST) From: Richard Kooijman Subject: Re: How do you enable "Bounce" command? To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 24 Aug 1994, David L Miller wrote: > Bounce was not yet implemented in Pine 3.89. It will be in Pine 3.90. Come on guys, make my day! When? I know you said that you weren't renowned for keeping release dates, but the guy who said 'late June', 'might slip into July', 'no reason why August 22nd should be a problem', must have been loaded with crack when he spoke those words. Richard. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 01:32:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27707; Fri, 26 Aug 94 01:32:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05950; Fri, 26 Aug 94 01:25:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05944; Fri, 26 Aug 94 01:25:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdwFn-00001JC; Fri, 26 Aug 94 01:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Stephan Subject: Pine Nicknames to .mailrc or Eudora Nickname Translation Date: 25 Aug 1994 19:06:22 GMT Message-Id: <33iq3e$njd@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Is it possible to translate the Pine addressbook to .mailrc or preferrably to Eudora nickname format? email would be appreciated. markstep@chgdss10.chgd.med.umich.edu thank you very much From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 02:45:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28964; Fri, 26 Aug 94 02:45:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07253; Fri, 26 Aug 94 02:38:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07247; Fri, 26 Aug 94 02:38:31 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA26123; Fri, 26 Aug 94 17:39:42 +0800 Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 17:39:41 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: How do you enable "Bounce" command? To: Richard Kooijman Cc: David L Miller , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 26 Aug 1994, Richard Kooijman wrote: > I know you said that you weren't renowned for keeping release dates, > but the guy who said 'late June', 'might slip into July', 'no reason why > August 22nd should be a problem', must have been loaded with crack > when he spoke those words. Keep your finger in the dike.... :-) :-) It is coming and it is worth the wait. You know, this wouldn't have happend if the Pine team wasn't striving to please as many people as possible......and it wouldn't have happened if they kept quiet about a release date. Along with a few last minute bug fixes they are in the process of providing something you don't see these days....documentation. But, maybe you have a point, it sure is a pain to have to wait this long for *free* software. :-) :-) Oh, BTW, I was informed that the sky would not fall should pine 3.90 be delayed another few _____s. Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 02:47:58 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29018; Fri, 26 Aug 94 02:47:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16258; Fri, 26 Aug 94 02:41:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16244; Fri, 26 Aug 94 02:40:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdxLo-00001ZC; Fri, 26 Aug 94 02:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Help getting this feed via a maillist needed... Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 23:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <1994Aug24.150528.28835@news.wrc.xerox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994Aug24.150528.28835@news.wrc.xerox.com> comp.mail.pine is bidirectionally gatewayed to pine-info@cac.washington.edu. To subscribe, send a message to majordomo@cac.washington.edu with "subscribe pine-info" in the body of the message. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 24 Aug 1994, Paul J. Graziano wrote: > Help! Not for me, for my wife. She uses pine, and she doesn't have access to a usenet feed. She would like to get this newsgroup via a mailing list. Could someone please help her out? Send mail to her at: > > njg@rfc.comm.harris.com > > Thanks - she is familiar with listservers, if that's required... > > --- > ~Paul > Work: pjg.wbst205LL@Xerox.com > Home: graz@rochgte.fidonet.org > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 03:01:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29229; Fri, 26 Aug 94 03:01:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16473; Fri, 26 Aug 94 02:53:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from dutepp6.et.tudelft.nl by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16467; Fri, 26 Aug 94 02:53:32 -0700 Received: by dutepp6.et.tudelft.nl id AA15116 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Fri, 26 Aug 1994 11:53:23 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 11:53:22 +0200 (MET DST) From: Richard Kooijman Subject: Re: How do you enable "Bounce" command? To: Ed Greshko Cc: Richard Kooijman , David L Miller , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 26 Aug 1994, Ed Greshko wrote: > Keep your finger in the dike.... :-) :-) > > But, maybe you have a point, it sure is a pain to have to wait > this long for *free* software. :-) :-) > > Oh, BTW, I was informed that the sky would not fall should > pine 3.90 be delayed another few _____s. He, placing multiple smiley's after stereotype remarks about the Dutch doesn't help. You hurt my feelings! Although, they were very *cheap*! Mmmmh, ;-) I am not blaming the Pine team anything, really. Pine is easy to use and not only targeted at novice users anymore. With the promised enhancements of 3.90 it is probably the best mailer around IMHO (I have tried elm, BSD mail, mh, mailtool among others). It only feels bad when the highly anticipated version is delayed once more. I am just amazed that the Pine team agree upon approximate release dates (apparently, because dates have been posted here), which turn out to be way, way, way off. Dear Pine team, keep up the good work. Richard. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 04:03:54 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01025; Fri, 26 Aug 94 04:03:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08668; Fri, 26 Aug 94 03:55:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08662; Fri, 26 Aug 94 03:55:54 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA26945; Fri, 26 Aug 94 18:56:55 +0800 Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 18:56:54 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Setting Reply-to: in Pine To: Reid J Mullen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <33h393$et0@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 25 Aug 1994, Reid J Mullen wrote: > Cameron Martin (cameron@jolt.mpx.com.au) wrote: > : I hope this is not too much of a FAQ/RTFM -- > > : But how do I set a one-off Reply-to: in pine? The "rich" headers don't > : seem to be very rich in this respect, and if I just put "Reply-to: ...." > : in the body of the mail, then it is not recognised as a header. > > I am new to UNIX so this may not be the best way, but it > worked for me: > > change dir to .tin cd .tin > using your text editor open a file called Replyto > in the first col and line of file type in the address you want > save file > now do chmod +x ReplyTo > then do rehash > > Not sure the last two items are necessary, but it did work for me Since I'm reading this on the mailing list I can't tell if this thread has been cross posted? I suspect it must be, since the reply has to do with tin as opposed to pine. Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 04:34:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02214; Fri, 26 Aug 94 04:34:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09505; Fri, 26 Aug 94 04:28:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09499; Fri, 26 Aug 94 04:28:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qdz8R-00001wC; Fri, 26 Aug 94 04:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cyl@ifcss.org (~{3BR]Az~}CHEN Yilong) Subject: what new features of pine 3.90? Date: 25 Aug 1994 20:40:15 GMT Message-Id: <33ivjf$8u7@ifcss.org> can someone give me a list of new features of pine 3.90? also what's delaying the release of pine 3.90? bugs? feature implementation? ??? Nelson -- +lnM Nelson Chin 102 Brook Street Quincy MA 02170 1508 024 USA +kDg CIIP: nchin+AEA-hnt.com CICC: cyl+AEA-ifcss.org PH:+-1 617 472 2851 +n40 PRODIGY: GWBV10E+AEA-prodigy.com BU: butta1+AEA-bu.edu UTF-7 code From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 04:52:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02594; Fri, 26 Aug 94 04:52:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18752; Fri, 26 Aug 94 04:45:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ousrvr.oulu.fi by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18746; Fri, 26 Aug 94 04:45:06 -0700 Received: from paju.oulu.fi by oulu.fi (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03097; Fri, 26 Aug 94 14:44:57 +0300 Received: by paju.oulu.fi (931110.SGI/930416.SGI.AUTO) for @ousrvr.oulu.fi:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA13987; Fri, 26 Aug 94 14:44:57 +0300 Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 14:44:52 +0300 (EDT) From: "M. Hotti" Subject: Q: Will Pine 3.90 be faster? To: Pine-Info Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII One thing that has been bothering me all the time I've been using Pine 3.89 - is that Pine is awfully slow when jumping to one incoming folder to another. I have set up seven incoming folders and each time I use [TAB] to change the folder, I get these messages; "No more unread messages... go to another folder Y/N?" and "Expunge deleted messages Y/N" which seem to stay on screen forever and slow down the action. Is there a way (maybe a variable in the source code) which affects the time these messages stay on screen? -Marko- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Marko Hotti University of Oulu Faculty of Medicine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 06:05:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04118; Fri, 26 Aug 94 06:05:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19951; Fri, 26 Aug 94 05:57:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19944; Fri, 26 Aug 94 05:57:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qe0Xt-00000tC; Fri, 26 Aug 94 05:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ben@fir.canberra.edu.au (Ben Elliston) Subject: Message-ID screwy Message-Id: Date: 25 Aug 94 13:17:32 GMT I'm having problems with my copy of Pine .. mail I generate has only my hostname on the right hand side of the "@" symbol in the Message-ID field and not my FQDN. Can anyone suggest what it might be, pls? hostname and domainname return the correct values (this is under Linux, btw). Replies via email appreciated. Thanks, Ben. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 07:03:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05230; Fri, 26 Aug 94 07:03:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12402; Fri, 26 Aug 94 06:56:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from lobby2b.ti.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12396; Fri, 26 Aug 94 06:56:05 -0700 Received: from tilde.csc.ti.com by lobby2b.ti.com with SMTP (8.6.8.1/LAI-3.2) id IAA25673; Fri, 26 Aug 1994 08:53:27 -0500 Received: from jeepney.sh.sc.ti.com (ews-sherman1.sh-gpl.ti.com) by tilde.csc.ti.com id AA18318; Fri, 26 Aug 1994 08:55:17 -0500 Received: from jeepney (jeepney.ARPA) by jeepney.sh.sc.ti.com (4.1/5.17) id AA08229; Fri, 26 Aug 94 09:00:28 CDT Posted-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 09:00:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 09:00:28 -0500 (CDT) From: "Joseph G. Manalang" Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 One Day Sale To: Ed Greshko Cc: Richard Kooijman , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 26 Aug 1994, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Thu, 25 Aug 1994, Richard Kooijman wrote: > > > On Thu, 25 Aug 1994, Joseph G. Manalang wrote: > > > > > Has anyone ftp'd the 3.90 version during the one day sale (Aug 22)? I > > > would like to test it... > > > > I did. It is bug ridden, though, crashed my harddisk and all, so stay with > > version 3.89 (the Pine has been forcing you anyway since Spring). I could > > have known of course, since it was on sale. > > Now, Now....be nice....Joseph's leg is already a few inches longer > from all that pulling. :-) :-) > Its now few inches shorter... Anybody else experience the same problem Richard have with the 3.90 version? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 07:14:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05504; Fri, 26 Aug 94 07:14:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12604; Fri, 26 Aug 94 07:04:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12597; Fri, 26 Aug 94 07:04:03 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA29318; Fri, 26 Aug 94 22:05:19 +0800 Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 22:05:18 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 One Day Sale To: "Joseph G. Manalang" Cc: Richard Kooijman , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 26 Aug 1994, Joseph G. Manalang wrote: > > On Fri, 26 Aug 1994, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > On Thu, 25 Aug 1994, Richard Kooijman wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 25 Aug 1994, Joseph G. Manalang wrote: > > > > > > > Has anyone ftp'd the 3.90 version during the one day sale (Aug 22)? I > > > > would like to test it... > > > > > > I did. It is bug ridden, though, crashed my harddisk and all, so stay with > > > version 3.89 (the Pine has been forcing you anyway since Spring). I could > > > have known of course, since it was on sale. > > > > Now, Now....be nice....Joseph's leg is already a few inches longer > > from all that pulling. :-) :-) > > > > Its now few inches shorter... Anybody else experience the same problem > Richard have with the 3.90 version? Hummm??? I'm sorry to be the one to break this to you....but you seem to have missed the point. The "one day sale" was a "joke". I hate it when people take me seriously....I never do. Ed P.S. 3.90 is due out shortly.... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 08:27:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07636; Fri, 26 Aug 94 08:27:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14423; Fri, 26 Aug 94 08:20:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14417; Fri, 26 Aug 94 08:20:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qe2jJ-00000nC; Fri, 26 Aug 94 07:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gmgerson@cpcug.digex.net (Gordon) Subject: printing mail Date: 25 Aug 1994 21:48:00 GMT Message-Id: <33j3ig$7n8@news1.digex.net> Does anyone else have a problem printing mail from Pine using the 'Y' command? I am using WinCommPro. I can print using its commands but it's a pain. The 'Y' command flashes through the mail giving all indications that it's working but nothing prints. Any ideas? Gordo of Reston From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 10:01:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12595; Fri, 26 Aug 94 10:01:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17240; Fri, 26 Aug 94 09:50:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from virtu.sar.usf.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17228; Fri, 26 Aug 94 09:50:34 -0700 Received: (mcannon@localhost) by virtu.sar.usf.edu (8.6.9/8.6.5) id MAA09489; Fri, 26 Aug 1994 12:45:44 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 12:45:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marje Cannon (SAR)" Subject: Re: Printing Internet Items To: Herbert Edelhertz Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <33gm0p$5v@hebron.connected.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 24 Aug 1994, Herbert Edelhertz wrote: > I have one consistent glitch in trying to print incoming messages in > Pine, as well as newsgroup items in Tin. My printer is the HPLaserJet III. > > When I use the "y" command in Pine, the printer has no trouble in > printing the message, whether on the Input side, or from the > Sent-messages folder. The only problem, or annoyance, is that the printer > spits out an extra blank page. > I am also having a problem printing Pine messages to my HP Printer -- it's a Deskjet 520. It prints the first two pages perfectly. Any page thereafter is complete Greek. Can anybody help me? Marje mcannon@virtu.sar.usf.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 10:01:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12619; Fri, 26 Aug 94 10:01:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25571; Fri, 26 Aug 94 09:52:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25559; Fri, 26 Aug 94 09:52:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qe4Bo-00000MC; Fri, 26 Aug 94 09:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: btv@ldl.HealthPartners.COM (Bryan Vold) Subject: [SOLUTION] Re: Garbage in Pico editor. Date: 25 Aug 1994 16:01:29 -0500 Message-Id: <33j0r9$oc6@ldl.HealthPartners.COM> References: <33gn07$j4h@potogold.rmii.com> In article , David L Miller wrote: >I went looking for that stray character bug a while back, but didn't find it. >It does seem to change which character gets displayed between versions... >On 25 Aug 1994, Scott Mckinsey wrote: >> I have the pine-3.89 package, and am using linux 1.1.45 with ncurses 1.8.5 >> The problem is that in the upper left hand corner of Pico is one >> character of garbage. I think the same thing was happening with ncurses >> 1.8.1. I've recompiled with no effect. >> >> Anyone seen this? I found the solution to this. Apparently it happens under MS-DOS (as well as Linux), because there is code in display.c that handles this little bug. What you need to do is add LINUX to the #if statement on line 916 of the display.c file, and recompile. The fixed line should look something like this: #if MSDOS || LINUX That should do it. Everyone who runs Pico on Linux say YEHHHHHH!!! ;-) -Bryan -- btv@ldl.healthpartners.com "The relentless pursuit of perfection" Linux -- The Choice of a GNU Generation "Make it so, Number One." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 10:11:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13198; Fri, 26 Aug 94 10:11:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17542; Fri, 26 Aug 94 10:01:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17536; Fri, 26 Aug 94 10:01:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qe4Hx-00000PC; Fri, 26 Aug 94 09:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: entropy@IntNet.net (Jonathan Cooper) Subject: ...filters FAQ part 2 Date: 25 Aug 1994 17:29:15 -0400 Message-Id: <33j2fb$cop@zeus.IntNet.net> Well. I got one reply to my question (which I feel must be a FAQ) which was "how does one filter messages into separate mailboxes?" The gentleman told me to use elm's filter; unfortunately the elm filter program blows up and spews all over the place when I try to compile it under Solaris 2.4 beta on this box. Agh. Any other ideas? -jon -- ( THEY CAN STOP THE PARTY, BUT THEY CAN'T STOP THE FUTURE ) ( --------------------[ entropy@intnet.net ]------------- ) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 10:15:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13303; Fri, 26 Aug 94 10:15:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17590; Fri, 26 Aug 94 10:03:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17584; Fri, 26 Aug 94 10:03:40 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24749; Fri, 26 Aug 94 10:03:33 -0700 Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 10:03:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "M. Hotti" Cc: Pine-Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Q: Will Pine 3.90 be faster? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Marko, Unfortunately, the delays are not artifacts of the message display routine. In 3.90 you will be able to set a feature to avoid the confirmation prompt when TABing between folders (you can do that already for eXpunge on quitting), but the real improvement will have to wait for Pine 4.0, which will implement many of the new features in the IMAP4 spec. In particular, IMAP4 specifies an efficient way for Pine to ask the mail server which folders have new/recent messages in them, and also has a new primitive to allow closing a folder much more quickly. (Right now Pine has to actually open the next incoming folder to see if there are any recent messages.) -teg On Fri, 26 Aug 1994, M. Hotti wrote: > > One thing that has been bothering me all the time I've been using > Pine 3.89 - is that Pine is awfully slow when jumping to one > incoming folder to another. I have set up seven incoming folders > and each time I use [TAB] to change the folder, I get these > messages; "No more unread messages... go to another folder Y/N?" > and "Expunge deleted messages Y/N" which seem to stay on screen > forever and slow down the action. > > Is there a way (maybe a variable in the source code) which affects > the time these messages stay on screen? > > -Marko- > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Marko Hotti University of Oulu > Faculty of Medicine > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 12:21:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19061; Fri, 26 Aug 94 12:21:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29214; Fri, 26 Aug 94 12:10:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29208; Fri, 26 Aug 94 12:10:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qe6Gw-00000LC; Fri, 26 Aug 94 11:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: marduk@tiberius.tc.cornell.edu (Albert W. Hopkins) Subject: Re: Printing contents of folders Date: 26 Aug 1994 00:57:05 GMT Message-Id: <33jel1$1691@theory.tc.cornell.edu> References: <33d6h7$1p8@access3.digex.net> <33d6h7$1p8@access3.digex.net>, gmayner@access3.digex.net (G. Mayner) writes: |> Can anyone tell me if it is possible to print the entire contents of a |> folder without printing each item in the folder individually? I would |> appreciate any help you can give me. I prefer an E-Mail response. It's |> difficult for me to get to the newsgroups. Well, the UNIX version of pine uses plain text files as folders. So, printing the entire contents of a folder is as easy as printing the file (i.e. lpr). truly, marduk -- Albert W. Hopkins Jr. phone: 607.254.8765 622 E&TC Building e-mail: marduk@TC.Cornell.edu Cornell Theory Center html: http://www.tc.cornell.edu/~marduk/ Cornell University Ithaca, NY 14853 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 12:48:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19898; Fri, 26 Aug 94 12:48:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22067; Fri, 26 Aug 94 12:34:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22061; Fri, 26 Aug 94 12:34:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qe6g1-00000LC; Fri, 26 Aug 94 12:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: domq@smugs.engr.sgi.com (Dominique Emerson) Subject: Pico line wrap concatenates Date: 26 Aug 1994 17:54:35 GMT Message-Id: <33la8r$6ef@tokyo.engr.sgi.com> -- I am using Pico as an editor off of a forms application with TERM=vt100 and running in character mode. When I execute pico directly from the command line all is well. But when I run pico from within the application I have a problem with line wrap concatenating with the next line. For instance: Given: axbc gpq If I start typing after "c" I get: axbc this is a test of pico line wrapgpq Rather than: axbc this is a test of pico line wrap gpq I get the same result if I set my TERM to iris-ansi and ansi. Any help would be appreciated. ---- Dominique Emerson (domq@sgi.com) DB/OS, Ltd. voice: 1-206-221-7404 fax: 1-206-221-7446 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 13:19:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21234; Fri, 26 Aug 94 13:19:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00819; Fri, 26 Aug 94 13:10:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00813; Fri, 26 Aug 94 13:10:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qe7D2-00000LC; Fri, 26 Aug 94 12:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kah305@leonard.anu.edu.au (Kelly Hite) Subject: Spruce (PINE for X) ? Date: 26 Aug 1994 02:08:11 GMT Message-Id: <33jiqb$mfl@sybil.anu.edu.au> Hi, I happen to see screenshots of Spruce (PINE for X-windows), which looks really impressive. Does it run on Linux/XFree86 ? If so, where can I get the binaries ? [I couldn't find it in /pine on cac.washington.edu] I would appreciate any pointer. Kelly Kelly.Hite@anu.edu.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 13:54:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22387; Fri, 26 Aug 94 13:54:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23917; Fri, 26 Aug 94 13:44:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23911; Fri, 26 Aug 94 13:44:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qe7lo-00000LC; Fri, 26 Aug 94 13:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cwg@urbino.mcc.com Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 One Day Sale Message-Id: References: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 18:27:42 GMT "Joseph G. Manalang" wrote in article : JGM> JGM> JGM>On Fri, 26 Aug 1994, Ed Greshko wrote: JGM>> Now, Now....be nice....Joseph's leg is already a few inches longer JGM>> from all that pulling. :-) :-) JGM>> JGM> JGM>Its now few inches shorter... Anybody else experience the same problem JGM>Richard have with the 3.90 version? Joseph, English isn't your first language is it? the phrase "pulling one's leg" refers to making a joke. Ed was making reference to this phrase above. I suppose that the original "one day sale" joke must have enough cultural references in it that it didn't translate any more than the leg pulling comment did. (You probably didn't get my earlier comment about ducking and the joke going over your head either. When a "joke goes over someone's head" it means that they not only didn't get the joke, but they didn't even realize that it was a joke.) This is where cross-cultural and multi-national networking gets interesting. Gee, did I just have a conversation with Star Trek's Data? Cheers, Chris Chris Garrigues (MIME capable) cwg@mcc.com Microelectronics and Computer Technology Corporation +1 512 338 3328 3500 West Balcones Center Fax +1 512 338 3838 Austin, TX 78759-5398 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 14:07:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22803; Fri, 26 Aug 94 14:07:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24221; Fri, 26 Aug 94 13:55:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from stein2.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24215; Fri, 26 Aug 94 13:55:24 -0700 Received: by stein2.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22302; Fri, 26 Aug 94 13:55:21 -0700 X-Sender: absweger@stein2.u.washington.edu Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 13:55:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew B. Sweger" Subject: Pico, Linux, binaries with garbage fix To: Pine Information , Linux Mailing List Cc: Bryan Vold Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've applied Bryan Vold's fix to display.c (Pine-Info, 25 Aug 1994 16:01:29 -0500) and pico seems to work fine and does *not* display garbage character(s) at the top of the display anymore. I'm making the binaries for pine and pico (from the Pine 3.89 distribution) available from the following locations: pine ftp://ftp.fammed.washington.edu/pub/pine.gz (355107) pico ftp://ftp.fammed.washington.edu/pub/pico.gz (52045) The files will be deleted 9/9/94 at 3:00pm. Please let me know if you encounter problems... -- / Andrew B. Sweger absweger@u.washington.edu // Computer Support Manager csg@fammed.washington.edu \\ Department of Family Medicine, HQ-30 (206) 543-2461 (Office) // UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON (206) 685-4337 (Voice Mail) / Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 685-0610 (FAX) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. [WARNING: Bandwidth Conservation Act of 1994 automatically implemented] ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 14:22:13 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23234; Fri, 26 Aug 94 14:22:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02218; Fri, 26 Aug 94 14:14:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02212; Fri, 26 Aug 94 14:14:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qe8DN-00000LC; Fri, 26 Aug 94 13:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: n9348795@gonzo.cc.wwu.edu (Blain Nelson) Subject: Re: ...filters [FAQ] Message-Id: References: <33bk6r$b6m@xcalibur.IntNet.net> Date: 26 Aug 94 19:12:31 GMT Dave King writes: >So, although pine3.90 will not have filtering capability for incoming >mail (it's not appropriate anyway).... This may seem like a silly question, but what's so darn inappropriate about having a useful mail-handling feature like filtering mail in a mail-handling application? Is this an actual impropriety or just another custom thing like not having word-wrap in unix editors? Blain >Dave >___________________________________________________________________ >Dave King Admin. Computing Services Manager, University of Bristol From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 14:45:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24135; Fri, 26 Aug 94 14:45:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25166; Fri, 26 Aug 94 14:34:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25160; Fri, 26 Aug 94 14:34:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qe8W8-000008C; Fri, 26 Aug 94 14:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steven King [Really!]) Subject: Re: Garbage in Pico editor. Message-Id: <1994Aug26.024718.8173@pshrink.chi.il.us> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 02:47:18 GMT References: <33gn07$j4h@potogold.rmii.com> mckinsey@rmii.com (Scott Mckinsey) publicly declared: >I have the pine-3.89 package, and am using linux 1.1.45 with ncurses 1.8.5 >The problem is that in the upper left hand corner of Pico is one >character of garbage. I think the same thing was happening with ncurses >1.8.1. I've recompiled with no effect. > >Anyone seen this? Yes, I see it too. On my system it manifests itself as a reverse-video comma. It doesn't affect anything though, so I haven't worried about it. -- Steven King, Proprietor of the PShrink Wrap BBS veck@pshrink.chi.il.us >> The Bumpy Two-Track Dirt Frontage Road << 14400 data & fax: >> Next To The Information Superhighway << +1 708 487 9727 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 15:31:35 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25599; Fri, 26 Aug 94 15:31:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03906; Fri, 26 Aug 94 15:19:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03900; Fri, 26 Aug 94 15:19:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qe9HP-00000PC; Fri, 26 Aug 94 14:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dave King Subject: Re: ...filters [FAQ] In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <33bk6r$b6m@xcalibur.IntNet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 09:34:44 GMT Pine3.90 will not have inbuilt filtering, but you will be able to setup a number of folders for "incoming mail". Incoming mail folders can be local or remote (IMAP) folders. Pine3.90 has several new features including "Select" (to select a collection of messages in a folder based on criteria such as 'Subject', 'From', 'Date', etc.), to which you will be able to "Apply" one of Pine's message manipulation commands; for example 'Delete','Print', and perhaps most useful in this case 'Save'. So, although pine3.90 will not have filtering capability for incoming mail (it's not appropriate anyway), you will be able to manually organise your messages very quickly the following way: 1. Open you INBOX in the usual way. 2. Use the 'Select' command. - enter selection criteria; possibly 'Subject'? - type in the subject that you want to 'match' on. (at this point Pine3.90 highlights those messages that match your selection criteria). 3. Use the 'Apply' command. - select the 'Save' option, and enter the appropriate folder name. 4. eXpunge the saved (and marked for deletion if Pine3.90 is configured to do so) messages from your INBOX. Of all the improvements and fixes in Pine3.90, I think the aggregate operation commands (Select, Apply, Zoom), will be widely used, and become very popular with Pine3.90 users. Dave ___________________________________________________________________ Dave King Admin. Computing Services Manager, University of Bristol RFC-822: Dave.King@bristol.ac.uk X.400: G=Dave;S=King;O=bristol;P=UK.AC;C=GB Telephone: 0117 9303961 On Thu, 25 Aug 1994, Dion Vansevenant wrote: > I think pine 3.90 will have filtering built-in, but don't quote me on that. > > Dion From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 16:02:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26626; Fri, 26 Aug 94 16:02:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27358; Fri, 26 Aug 94 15:53:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27350; Fri, 26 Aug 94 15:53:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qe9rG-000008C; Fri, 26 Aug 94 15:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: ...filters [FAQ] Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 22:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <33bk6r$b6m@xcalibur.IntNet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 25 Aug 1994, Dion Vansevenant wrote: > > I think pine 3.90 will have filtering built-in, but don't quote me on that. > Bzzzzzt! Filtering will not be in 3.90, nor is it currently planned for any future version. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 16:47:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28178; Fri, 26 Aug 94 16:47:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05922; Fri, 26 Aug 94 16:40:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from faxon.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05915; Fri, 26 Aug 94 16:40:33 -0700 Received: by faxon.ca (5.4R2.01/192.139.186.253) id AA23586; Fri, 26 Aug 1994 19:38:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 19:36:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Dion Vansevenant Subject: Re: ...filters [FAQ] To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 26 Aug 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Aug 1994, Dion Vansevenant wrote: > > > > I think pine 3.90 will have filtering built-in, but don't quote me on that. > > Bzzzzzt! Filtering will not be in 3.90, nor is it currently planned for any > future version. > Darn! Do I get a consolation prize for playing "Answer That Question"? ;)) Dion *----------------------------------------------* | Dion Vansevenant stu2@faxon.ca | | Systems Administrator | | Faxon/SMS Canada Ltd. (519) 472-1006 voice | | P.O. Box 2382 (519) 472-1072 fax | | London, ON | | Canada N6A 5A7 | *----------------------------------------------* If you don't change your direction - you're bound to end up where you're headed. - Chinese Proverb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 18:32:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01508; Fri, 26 Aug 94 18:32:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08468; Fri, 26 Aug 94 18:26:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from faxon.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08462; Fri, 26 Aug 94 18:26:12 -0700 Received: by faxon.ca (5.4R2.01/192.139.186.253) id AA29276; Fri, 26 Aug 1994 21:23:31 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 21:21:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Dion Vansevenant Subject: Setting 'vacation' mode To: Pine Messages Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Our users here do not have access to the shell. Does anyone know how they could activate the 'vacation' setting in UNIX to indicate to people that they are on vacation? Our in-house mailing system does it and it would be nice if they could set it at the UNIX level as well. For the record we are using DG/UX 5.4.2 and Pine 3.86. TIA Dion *----------------------------------------------* | Dion Vansevenant stu2@faxon.ca | | Systems Administrator | | Faxon/SMS Canada Ltd. (519) 472-1006 voice | | P.O. Box 2382 (519) 472-1072 fax | | London, ON | | Canada N6A 5A7 | *----------------------------------------------* If you don't change your direction - you're bound to end up where you're headed. - Chinese Proverb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 18:41:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01750; Fri, 26 Aug 94 18:41:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08698; Fri, 26 Aug 94 18:35:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08691; Fri, 26 Aug 94 18:35:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeCO7-000008C; Fri, 26 Aug 94 18:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: texmex@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Steve Patlan) Subject: Re: Setting Reply-to: in Pine Date: 26 Aug 1994 17:16:55 -0500 Message-Id: <33lpkn$4b7@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> References: <33f7u3$dgh@inferno.mpx.com.au> In article <33f7u3$dgh@inferno.mpx.com.au>, Cameron Martin wrote: > >But how do I set a one-off Reply-to: in pine? The "rich" headers don't >seem to be very rich in this respect, and if I just put "Reply-to: ...." >in the body of the mail, then it is not recognised as a header. This is what I do (it's a lot easier when I have two telnet windows open): Postpone your message while composing, edit ~/Mail/postponed-mail and manually insert a "Reply-To:". Resume composing. -Steve "kludge" Patlan -- texmex@starbase.neosoft.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 18:47:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01859; Fri, 26 Aug 94 18:47:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01637; Fri, 26 Aug 94 18:39:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01631; Fri, 26 Aug 94 18:39:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeCSv-00000MC; Fri, 26 Aug 94 18:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dave King Subject: Re: Extra mail? Deleted mail? In-Reply-To: <9408251629.AA20900@morgana.pubserv.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 09:13:08 GMT Brian, I'll comment on the part of your message that looks familiar to me... On Thu, 25 Aug 1994, Brian Larkin wrote: [printing question deleted...] > Several others have mentioned that sometimes they get "extra" copies > of messages. I have checked the maillogs (every message gets logged > into a file) and only one message was sent, therebye leading me to > believe that this problem is related to Pine's handling of mail > connections. Have you checked syslog? This is where multiple mailings will show up. > For the record: > > Sequent S27's > DYNIX V3.1.2 > Pine Clients running only on the Sequents. I have also had/have this problem (multiple copies), and know what the cause is on Sequent's DYNIX/ptx. This problem may or may not be the same as the one you are experiencing. The problem is caused by orphaned mail .lock files. /bin/mail and mailbox locking ----------------------------- Sequent's implementation of the "mail" program (the program that actually delivers mail messages to /usr/mail (/usr/spool/mail on DYNIX 3.1.2?) does not handle mailings very well to more than one person (multiple names in To: CC: or Bcc:) *if* one of the destination usernames has a .lock file existing when /bin/mail tries to write to that person's mailbox. A typical sequence of events is: + A mail .lock file becomes orphaned (for example after a user crashes Elm2.3). + Another local user uses Pine (or Elm, or any other mailer), to mail a message to one than one user on the local computer (including the user with the .lock file). + sendmail "collects" the message from Pine (or another mailer), and "hands over" the messages to "mail" if the messages are destined for the local computer. + mail successfully writes the message into the mail files (in /usr/mail or /usr/spool/mail) for all users up to the user who has a .lock file. + sendmail thinks the entire delivery has failed, and therefore puts the entire recipient list and message text into the mailqueue. + sendmail then reprocesses the entire message again (15mins or so later, depending on how often sendmail is configured to process its queue. For example, "/usr/lib/sendmail -bd -q15m". + The entire loop starts again. Which leads to: + The user with the .lock file not getting the message, until the .lock file is removed. + All users in the list *prior* to the user with the .lock file getting several copies. + All users *after* the user with the .lock file not getting the message at all. If this happens, I check for orphaned lock files by doing: "ls -l /usr/mail/*.lock", and delete any lock files that are orphans, but *not* those that are _really_ being used! Then, I either manually delete the repeated files from the mail queue spool area (use /usr/lib/mailq to check, and only do this if you know exactly what you are doing), or clear the sendmail queue with "/usr/lib/sendmail -q" (or wait 15mins). Sequent know that /bin/mail has lots of bugs (not just the one I've mentioned) but it's not a high priority for fixes. The ideal behaviour in the case of orphaned .lock files would be for sendmail and mail to work cooperatively along the lines of "10 out of 12 users can recieve the mail (no .lock file), so deliver the 10, and only put the remaining two recipients in the mail queue". Finally, on one occassion, several users recieved 76 copies of a message, until the offending lock file (caused by an Elm2.3 crash) was removed. I think the moral of this (lengthy?) story is, that the moment a user complains about getting several copies of a message, check for .lock files belong to all of the recipients and zap them if not genuine. Dave ___________________________________________________________________ Dave King Admin. Computing Services Manager, University of Bristol RFC-822: Dave.King@bristol.ac.uk X.400: G=Dave;S=King;O=bristol;P=UK.AC;C=GB Telephone: 0117 9303961 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 19:00:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02116; Fri, 26 Aug 94 19:00:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09073; Fri, 26 Aug 94 18:54:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09067; Fri, 26 Aug 94 18:54:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeChT-000008C; Fri, 26 Aug 94 18:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: texmex@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Steve Patlan) Subject: Re: where is Inbox? Date: 26 Aug 1994 17:31:19 -0500 Message-Id: <33lqfn$555@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> References: In article , David L Miller wrote: > >The default location for the INBOX is usually /usr/spool/mail/username... Or /var/mail/username for BSDI BSD/386. Steve Patlan -- texmex@starbase.neosoft.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 19:33:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02677; Fri, 26 Aug 94 19:33:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02531; Fri, 26 Aug 94 19:24:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02525; Fri, 26 Aug 94 19:24:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeDAp-000008C; Fri, 26 Aug 94 19:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bpcledp@shakti.ncst.ernet.in (BHARAT PETROLEUM CORP. LTD. (EDP CELL)) Subject: Imapd Setup Message-Id: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 10:59:44 GMT Hi, I am trying to install pine in our corporation. We are facing a couple of problems in the Imapd setup. A. We are not able to setup Imapd to utilise the .rhosts file entries in a way similar to rsh. We have made an entry linking /etc/rimapd to /usr/sbin/imapd ( this is the absolute path to imapd ). Is any entry to be made in /etc/services and/or /etc/inetd.conf for rimapd. As of now there is no such entry. We are having SVR4 and SVR3 machines. B. PC-Pine ( for PCTCP ) is able to store and poll the imapd server with the stored password in PINE.PWD file, but expects the password to be the same on all machines. C. Is there any way PC-Pine can access Imapd servers on different machines with differnt login ids with stored entries in PINE.PWD file. This PC-Pine is the executable directly downloaded from pine.cac.washington.edu Abhishek From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 21:19:59 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04591; Fri, 26 Aug 94 21:19:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11689; Fri, 26 Aug 94 21:13:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11683; Fri, 26 Aug 94 21:13:23 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA09588; Sat, 27 Aug 94 12:14:14 +0800 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 12:14:13 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: ...filters [FAQ] To: Blain Nelson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 26 Aug 1994, Blain Nelson wrote: > Dave King writes: > > > >So, although pine3.90 will not have filtering capability for incoming > >mail (it's not appropriate anyway).... > > This may seem like a silly question, but what's so darn inappropriate > about having a useful mail-handling feature like filtering mail in a > mail-handling application? Is this an actual impropriety or just another > custom thing like not having word-wrap in unix editors? Blain, It is inappropriate to place this task with a UA. Think of it this way. Your UA is not active at all times. When you invoke pine you generally look to one place, the inbox, where the MTA has deposited your incoming mail. Now the only time the UA could sort and xfer your incoming mail into the designated folders would be on start-up. If you have a lot of email in your inbox the start-up time could be excessive. Then, think of what would need to be done when new mail arrives while you are reading your inbox....the same sort of time consuming tasks will need to be performed along with associated locking problems. Your MTA is working for you 24hrs a day. It is best suited to take care of delivery of email to its designated spot. Think of it as the PO sorting the incoming email into individual boxes. It is better than the PO handing your a stack of letters and you having to sort them before getting down to the business of reading... Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 22:06:08 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05365; Fri, 26 Aug 94 22:06:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12591; Fri, 26 Aug 94 22:00:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12585; Fri, 26 Aug 94 21:59:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeFYi-000008C; Fri, 26 Aug 94 21:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andy@cs.city.ac.uk (Andy Whitcroft) Subject: Re: How do you enable "Bounce" command? Date: 26 Aug 1994 12:54:11 GMT Message-Id: <33kolj$j1h@bambam.cs.city.ac.uk> References: <33ga8h$n0o@crl5.crl.com> Gunther Anderson (gunther@ssi.edc.org) wrote: : Sadly, I have to say again what I'm getting tired of saying. "It's fixed : in 3.90". In 3.89, the Bounce command, Pipe command and one other one in : that cluster, are totally unimplemented. They're all there in 3.90, : working perfectly. 3.90 was supposed to be released Monday. Now, I'm not : nagging, but couldn't they at least promise us another release date? Like : Friday, or next Friday? I'm holding a few system enhancements until I can : get 3.90 in place, and I wonder if it's going to cost me too much time in : the end. Here, here. A new date would be nice. We are also holding of announcements for the software which will be up for on our kit next year. If we miss the date it says missed 8(. Andy (resigned to fixing 3.89). -- Andy Whitcroft EMail: andy@cs.city.ac.uk (MIME) Systems Support, Computer Science, Tel: +44 71 477 8550, Fax: 8587 City University, London, UK. http://web.cs.city.ac.uk/finger?andy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 22:44:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06013; Fri, 26 Aug 94 22:44:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06546; Fri, 26 Aug 94 22:36:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06540; Fri, 26 Aug 94 22:36:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeG92-000008C; Fri, 26 Aug 94 22:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu (John M. Grohol) Subject: Q: How to set Pine cursor attributes? Message-Id: Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 00:33:36 GMT I remember an older version of Pine supported differentiation between dial-up and direct terminals, setting the cursor in the (I)ndex of current folder from "highlighting" to just a plain ">" in front of each message. I can't seem to get this to work anymore in 3.89... Is this still possible? How does one do it? Thanks, -jmg -- John M. Grohol Co-moderator sci.psychology.research Center for Psychological Studies, Nova Southeastern University, Florida grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu grohol@psy.psych.nova.edu -=O=- On internship in Poughkeepsie, NY. -=O=- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 23:41:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07105; Fri, 26 Aug 94 23:41:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14414; Fri, 26 Aug 94 23:32:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14407; Fri, 26 Aug 94 23:32:19 -0700 Received: by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06825; Fri, 26 Aug 94 23:27:59 -0700 Received: by ListDist v0.2 for /usr/local/lib/pine-announce.cf Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06819; Fri, 26 Aug 94 23:27:58 -0700 Received: from gray.csi.cam.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14316; Fri, 26 Aug 94 23:27:55 -0700 Received: from black.csi.cam.ac.uk by ppsw1.cam.ac.uk with SMTP-CAM (PP-6.0) as ppsw.cam.ac.uk id <17453-0@ppsw1.cam.ac.uk>; Sat, 27 Aug 1994 07:27:51 +0100 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by black.csi.cam.ac.uk with SMTP-INT (PP-6.0) as ppsw.cam.ac.uk id <17669-0@black.csi.cam.ac.uk>; Sat, 27 Aug 1994 07:27:47 +0100 Reply-To: Michael Seibel Message-Id: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 23:27:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Seibel To: Pine Announcement Distribution Subject: Pine and PC-Pine 3.90 now available X-Owner: pine-announce-request@cac.washington.edu X-To: Pine Announcement Distribution This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System version 3.90. This release, though perhaps not immediately obvious from the version number, represents a notable step forward in functionality. Feature highlights include: o Configuration Screen o Aggregate operations o News posting o News subscription/unsubscription. o Multiple address books o Multiple postponed messages o A *preliminary* version of Pine's character interface ported to Windows-3.1/Winsock A detailed list of additional features can be found in Pine's builtin release notes ("R" on the Main Menu). Even more information can be found via: o The anonymous FTP archives at ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine o The World-Wide-Web page at http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine As is sometimes the case, a hefty step forward can increase the chance of tripping. We are cautiously optimistic that this version is relatively stable, but it would be a good idea to expose it to at least some rigorous testing before unleashing it in a production environment. Pine version 3.90 is available via anonymous ftp to ftp.cac.washington.edu from the file named "pine/pine.tar.Z". Pre-compiled executables for various flavors of UNIX can be found in the "pine/unix-bin" directory, and zip'd copies of the DOS and Windows releases can be found in the "pine/pcpine" directory. As always, our thanks to the countless people who have taken the time to provide valuable feedback and bug reports! The Pine Team From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 26 23:53:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07298; Fri, 26 Aug 94 23:53:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14698; Fri, 26 Aug 94 23:45:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14688; Fri, 26 Aug 94 23:44:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeHFj-000008C; Fri, 26 Aug 94 23:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: ...filters [FAQ] Date: 27 Aug 94 01:35:31 GMT Message-Id: References: <33bk6r$b6m@xcalibur.IntNet.net> n9348795@gonzo.cc.wwu.edu (Blain Nelson) writes: >Dave King writes: >>So, although pine3.90 will not have filtering capability for incoming >>mail (it's not appropriate anyway).... >This may seem like a silly question, but what's so darn inappropriate >about having a useful mail-handling feature like filtering mail in a >mail-handling application? Is this an actual impropriety or just another >custom thing like not having word-wrap in unix editors? ALL of the UNIX editors I use do word wrap: JOVE, Joe, pico, jed, GNU EMACS. I have spent less than a total of 2 hours of time in vi in over 9 years of heavy UNIX use. >Blain >>Dave >>___________________________________________________________________ >>Dave King Admin. Computing Services Manager, University of Bristol -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 01:06:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09026; Sat, 27 Aug 94 01:06:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09622; Sat, 27 Aug 94 00:55:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09616; Sat, 27 Aug 94 00:55:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeIML-00000MC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 00:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Spruce (PINE for X) ? Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 08:57:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <33jiqb$mfl@sybil.anu.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <33jiqb$mfl@sybil.anu.edu.au> SPRUCE is not a product of the Pine team. You can get information from ian.leiman@ntc.nokia.com or http://dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com:3000/Spruce/Spruce.html --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 26 Aug 1994, Kelly Hite wrote: > > Hi, > > I happen to see screenshots of Spruce (PINE for X-windows), which looks > really impressive. Does it run on Linux/XFree86 ? If so, where can I get > the binaries ? [I couldn't find it in /pine on cac.washington.edu] > > I would appreciate any pointer. > > Kelly > > Kelly.Hite@anu.edu.au > > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 01:27:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09494; Sat, 27 Aug 94 01:27:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10186; Sat, 27 Aug 94 01:16:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10179; Sat, 27 Aug 94 01:16:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeIdm-00000MC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 00:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Imapd Setup Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 09:04:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 26 Aug 1994, BHARAT PETROLEUM CORP. LTD. wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to install pine in our corporation. We are facing a couple > of problems in the Imapd setup. > > A. We are not able to setup Imapd to utilise the .rhosts file entries > in a way similar to rsh. We have made an entry linking /etc/rimapd > to /usr/sbin/imapd ( this is the absolute path to imapd ). Is any > entry to be made in /etc/services and/or /etc/inetd.conf for rimapd. > As of now there is no such entry. We are having SVR4 and SVR3 > machines. > No, entries for rimapd are not required. The best way to test rimapd is to "rsh host /etc/rimapd". Any problems are usually readily apparent... > B. PC-Pine ( for PCTCP ) is able to store and poll the imapd server > with the stored password in PINE.PWD file, but expects the password > to be the same on all machines. > Correct. > C. Is there any way PC-Pine can access Imapd servers on different > machines with differnt login ids with stored entries in PINE.PWD > file. This PC-Pine is the executable directly downloaded from > pine.cac.washington.edu > Not at this time. > Abhishek > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 02:06:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10433; Sat, 27 Aug 94 02:06:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11062; Sat, 27 Aug 94 01:55:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11055; Sat, 27 Aug 94 01:55:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeJIA-00000MC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 01:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: n9348795@gonzo.cc.wwu.edu (Blain Nelson) Subject: Re: ...filters [FAQ] Message-Id: References: <33bk6r$b6m@xcalibur.IntNet.net> Date: 27 Aug 94 01:02:00 GMT David L Miller writes: >On 26 Aug 1994, Blain Nelson wrote: >The logical place to handle filtering is during the delivery process. Since >Pine is not involved with the delivery process, why would it be involved with >filtering? Maybe because it's a mail thing and Pine handles mail. Maybe because having access to Pine does not guarantee access to filtering otherwise. Maybe because ELM does it and Pine is Nearly Elm. Maybe because I've seen posts here approximately weekly asking for the feature. For that matter, why can't Pine be involved in the delivery process? Is there a law? >|\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 Blain From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 02:42:54 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11169; Sat, 27 Aug 94 02:42:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18591; Sat, 27 Aug 94 02:35:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18582; Sat, 27 Aug 94 02:35:32 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA12606; Sat, 27 Aug 94 17:36:42 +0800 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 17:36:41 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: ...filters [FAQ] To: Blain Nelson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 27 Aug 1994, Blain Nelson wrote: > David L Miller writes: > > > >On 26 Aug 1994, Blain Nelson wrote: > > > >The logical place to handle filtering is during the delivery process. Since > >Pine is not involved with the delivery process, why would it be involved with > >filtering? > > Maybe because it's a mail thing and Pine handles mail. Maybe because > having access to Pine does not guarantee access to filtering otherwise. > Maybe because ELM does it and Pine is Nearly Elm. To take a lead from David.... Bzzzzzzzztttt..... *Wrong* ELM does *not* filter. It includes in its distribution an additional utility called "filter". If that is what you want....then say it. > Maybe because I've > seen posts here approximately weekly asking for the feature. Just because you've seen posts about it...doesn't make it a viable feature. > For that matter, why can't Pine be involved in the delivery process? Is > there a law? Because it is a User Agent and *not* a Transport Agent. There are distictions. Seems you didn't get my email I'd sent you....let me post it for you.. It is inappropriate to place this task with a UA. Think of it this way. Your UA is not active at all times. When you invoke pine you generally look to one place, the inbox, where the MTA has deposited your incoming mail. Now the only time the UA could sort and xfer your incoming mail into the designated folders would be on start-up. If you have a lot of email in your inbox the start-up time could be excessive. Then, think of what would need to be done when new mail arrives while you are reading your inbox....the same sort of time consuming tasks will need to be performed along with associated locking problems. Your MTA is working for you 24hrs a day. It is best suited to take care of delivery of email to its designated spot. Think of it as the PO sorting the incoming email into individual boxes. It is better than the PO handing your a stack of letters and you having to sort them before getting down to the business of reading... Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 03:32:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12324; Sat, 27 Aug 94 03:32:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19782; Sat, 27 Aug 94 03:25:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19776; Sat, 27 Aug 94 03:25:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeKg2-00000MC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 03:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeff Loll Subject: where is Inbox? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 19:39:04 GMT A couple of days ago, somebody had asked how, after sorting their mail into different folders, they could be notified about unread messages. I have been writing a little shell script to do this. One thing I noted is that the folder 'Inbox' did not exist in the Mail directory. Does anyone know where the Inbox folder (file) is located? thanks, jeff loll jloll@rahul.net (San Jose, Calif.) -- Jeff Loll From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 03:36:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12412; Sat, 27 Aug 94 03:36:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13591; Sat, 27 Aug 94 03:29:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from dutepp6.et.tudelft.nl by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13585; Sat, 27 Aug 94 03:29:07 -0700 Received: by dutepp6.et.tudelft.nl id AA19217 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Sat, 27 Aug 1994 12:29:03 +0200 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 12:29:02 +0200 (MET DST) From: Richard Kooijman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine version 3.90 is great! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, me again, This time it is for real. I compiled Pine version 3.90 without any problems on a SparcStation running SunOS 4.1.3. I have used it for the past 2 hours or so and immediately made great use of the new customized header feature for someone else who really, really needed this. BTW The Pine team didn't mention much about the new setup/configure screen, but with all the options there with context sensitive help it is a very good improvement. Next thing I am going to test is the improved MIME compatibility using the 'mailcap' file. The Pine team did a great job! Since they reserved version number 4.0 for compatibility release with IMAP 4, they could not go higher than that. But as far as I am concerned they at least could have called it 3.99 or so. Thanks!! Richard. PS The Pine team does advice you to keep your 3.89 binary around in case a nasty bug crops up in the new code. I went cold turkey, but you may prefer to be more careful. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 03:53:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12726; Sat, 27 Aug 94 03:53:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14007; Sat, 27 Aug 94 03:45:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14001; Sat, 27 Aug 94 03:45:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeKze-00000MC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 03:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell) Subject: Re: How do you enable "Bounce" command? Date: 26 Aug 1994 18:47:50 GMT Message-Id: <33ldcm$4b4@news.ysu.edu> References: Richard Kooijman (R.Kooijman@et.tudelft.nl) wrote: : On Wed, 24 Aug 1994, David L Miller wrote: : > Bounce was not yet implemented in Pine 3.89. It will be in Pine 3.90. : Come on guys, make my day! When? : I know you said that you weren't renowned for keeping release dates, I think the problem can be defined this way: Geographic proximity to Redmond WA. (seriously tho, I'd rather it be a little later if it's a little more bug- free, particularly where odd-ball platforms like AIX and Solaris come in). -- Doug Sewell (doug@cc.ysu.edu) Left alle... what ?! http://cc.ysu.edu/1/doug de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner -- Bill Gunshannon, bill@cs.uofs.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 06:16:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15684; Sat, 27 Aug 94 06:16:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23260; Sat, 27 Aug 94 06:07:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23254; Sat, 27 Aug 94 06:07:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeNBj-00000MC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 05:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Q: How to set Pine cursor attributes? Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 23:30:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: In the current Pine 3.90 release, you can go to the Setup/Configuration screen and set the assume-slow-link feature. Older versions of Pine would use slow-speed mode if the line speed was set below 4800bps (e.g. by stty 1200). |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 27 Aug 1994, John M. Grohol wrote: > > I remember an older version of Pine supported differentiation between > dial-up and direct terminals, setting the cursor in the (I)ndex of current > folder from "highlighting" to just a plain ">" in front of each message. > > I can't seem to get this to work anymore in 3.89... Is this still possible? > How does one do it? > > Thanks, > > -jmg > -- > John M. Grohol Co-moderator sci.psychology.research > Center for Psychological Studies, Nova Southeastern University, Florida > grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu grohol@psy.psych.nova.edu > -=O=- On internship in Poughkeepsie, NY. -=O=- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 06:23:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15879; Sat, 27 Aug 94 06:23:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17771; Sat, 27 Aug 94 06:16:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17765; Sat, 27 Aug 94 06:16:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeNL2-00000NC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 05:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: ...filters [FAQ] Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 14:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <33bk6r$b6m@xcalibur.IntNet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 26 Aug 1994, Blain Nelson wrote: > Dave King writes: > > > >So, although pine3.90 will not have filtering capability for incoming > >mail (it's not appropriate anyway).... > > This may seem like a silly question, but what's so darn inappropriate > about having a useful mail-handling feature like filtering mail in a > mail-handling application? Is this an actual impropriety or just another > custom thing like not having word-wrap in unix editors? > The logical place to handle filtering is during the delivery process. Since Pine is not involved with the delivery process, why would it be involved with filtering? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 06:23:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15880; Sat, 27 Aug 94 06:23:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17762; Sat, 27 Aug 94 06:15:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from vnet.ibm.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17756; Sat, 27 Aug 94 06:15:53 -0700 Received: from RTP by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8264; Sat, 27 Aug 94 09:15:46 EDT Received: by RTP (XAGENTA 3.0) id 3272; Sat, 27 Aug 1994 09:14:48 -0400 Received: by axis.raleigh.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA17675; Sat, 27 Aug 1994 09:15:45 -0400 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 09:15:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Sean Allen" Subject: Re: where is Inbox? To: Jeff Loll Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Look in /var/spool/mail/... On Fri, 26 Aug 1994, Jeff Loll wrote: > A couple of days ago, somebody had asked how, after sorting > their mail into different folders, they could be notified > about unread messages. I have been writing a little shell > script to do this. One thing I noted is that the folder 'Inbox' > did not exist in the Mail directory. Does anyone know where > the Inbox folder (file) is located? > > thanks, jeff loll > jloll@rahul.net (San Jose, Calif.) > -- > Jeff Loll Sean Allen AIX/Database Administration (919)543-6021 T/L 441 IBM Personal Computer Company Internal Zip: D318/B205 Research Triangle Park, NC VNET: RTP(SALLEN) IBM IP: sallen@axis.raleigh.ibm.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 06:33:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16086; Sat, 27 Aug 94 06:33:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23653; Sat, 27 Aug 94 06:26:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23646; Sat, 27 Aug 94 06:26:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeNWm-00000PC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 06:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: where is Inbox? Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 14:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: The default location for the INBOX is usually /usr/spool/mail/username... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 26 Aug 1994, Jeff Loll wrote: > A couple of days ago, somebody had asked how, after sorting > their mail into different folders, they could be notified > about unread messages. I have been writing a little shell > script to do this. One thing I noted is that the folder 'Inbox' > did not exist in the Mail directory. Does anyone know where > the Inbox folder (file) is located? > > thanks, jeff loll > jloll@rahul.net (San Jose, Calif.) > -- > Jeff Loll > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 07:18:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16741; Sat, 27 Aug 94 07:18:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19085; Sat, 27 Aug 94 07:11:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19078; Sat, 27 Aug 94 07:11:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeODf-00000MC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 06:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: setspike@mcl.ucsb.edu (Jason Pascual) Subject: Pine 3.90 is out!!! Date: 27 Aug 1994 08:04:48 GMT Message-Id: <33ms30$evg@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu> For those of you not on the mailing list, Pine 3.90 is available. I just finished downloading and compiling it and the new features are really great. I think most of us who have been eagerly awaiting it's arrival will be quite pleased with it. Jason Pascual Microcomputer Lab Systems Operator setspike@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 07:42:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17199; Sat, 27 Aug 94 07:42:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19701; Sat, 27 Aug 94 07:36:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from eng.infinet.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19695; Sat, 27 Aug 94 07:36:14 -0700 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 10:36:07 -400 (EDT) From: "Steven E. Frazier" Subject: Pine 3.90 for SCO Unix? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Has anyone compiled Pine/Pico for SCO ODT/Unix yet, and is the binaries available anywhere? Thanks in advance. Steve From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 07:43:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17230; Sat, 27 Aug 94 07:43:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25082; Sat, 27 Aug 94 07:34:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from dkuug.dk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25076; Sat, 27 Aug 94 07:34:54 -0700 Received: from cphling.dk (ling.cphling.dk) by dkuug.dk with SMTP id AA10926 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for ); Sat, 27 Aug 1994 16:34:51 +0200 Received: from pete.cphling.dk by cphling.dk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16212; Sat, 27 Aug 94 16:35:24 +0200 Received: by pete.cphling.dk (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA03326; Sat, 27 Aug 1994 16:35:23 --100 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 16:35:22 +0200 (MET DST) From: Peter Holtse Reply-To: Peter.Holtse@cphling.dk To: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Subject: subscription Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 20 X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 subscribe pine-ifo From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 07:53:29 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17400; Sat, 27 Aug 94 07:53:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25341; Sat, 27 Aug 94 07:45:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25335; Sat, 27 Aug 94 07:45:57 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23660; Sat, 27 Aug 94 07:45:56 -0700 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 07:45:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC-Pine name/passwd caching (was Imapd Setup) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 26 Aug 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > B. PC-Pine ( for PCTCP ) is able to store and poll the imapd server > > with the stored password in PINE.PWD file, but expects the password > > to be the same on all machines. > > > > Correct. I was tempted to answer this yesterday, but didn't dare since the answer would have been yet another "It's fixed in 3.90" But now that 3.90 is out: in 3.90 passwds are associated with specific hosts, and Pine will keep track of more than one, both in memory and in the pine.pwd file. > > C. Is there any way PC-Pine can access Imapd servers on different > > machines with differnt login ids with stored entries in PINE.PWD > > file. This PC-Pine is the executable directly downloaded from > > pine.cac.washington.edu > > > > Not at this time. Being able to associate a different login ID with different IMAP servers is on the semi-short list for a future release. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 08:05:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17604; Sat, 27 Aug 94 08:05:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25565; Sat, 27 Aug 94 07:56:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25559; Sat, 27 Aug 94 07:56:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeOsc-00000MC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 07:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine and confirmation Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 02:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <33mqlv$ocl@trex.iend.wau.nl> Pine 3.90 will allow you to configure and set the appropriate headers (see customized-hdrs in the Config screen). The delivery receipt is a function of the MTA and is supported differently in different agents. Pine does not and will not automatically generate read-receipts for various privacy and legal reasons. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 27 Aug 1994, Arnold C. Bosch wrote: > Is there a way to set 'read-receipt' and 'delivery-receipt' in Pine? > > This feature sends a message back if the recipient has read or received the > message (if the remote mailer supports this feature of course). > > Thanks, > > > --- > Arnold Bosch. > > |====================================================================| > | Internet: Arnold.Bosch@Net.WAU.NL | > | Phone : +31 (0)837084716; Fax :+31 (0)837084731 | > | Department for Information Management and Datacommunication (I&D) | > | Agricultural University, Wageningen, the Netherlands | > | X400 : c=NL;a=400net;p=Surf;o=WAU;ou=Net;s=Bosch;gi=Arnold | > |====================================================================| > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 08:05:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17611; Sat, 27 Aug 94 08:05:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20214; Sat, 27 Aug 94 07:56:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20208; Sat, 27 Aug 94 07:56:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeOuM-00000NC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 07:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Pine3.90 available for CZ and SK Date: 27 Aug 1994 09:14:18 GMT Message-Id: <33n05a$mul@news.ysu.edu> This is an announcement that there is an unofficial mirror for Pine release 3.90 for the convenience of users in the Czech and Slovak Republics at either ftp.vszbr.cz:/pub/mail/pine ccsun.tuke.sk:/pub Users outside CZ or SK in Europe may find it faster to retrieve the program from ftp.cac.washington.edu, which is the official release site, however, this unofficial mirror is provided for the benefit of users in CZ and SK so they need not transfer the whole program over an international link. Barry Bouwsma, visiting Uni-Irchel Zuerich, Switzerland, on bike trip -- Barry Bouwsma, Zuerich, Switzerland Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) Unemployable System Crasher, bike hacking myself into the Internet from wherever I happen to be at the time, have chocolate, will travel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 08:30:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18101; Sat, 27 Aug 94 08:30:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26166; Sat, 27 Aug 94 08:22:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26160; Sat, 27 Aug 94 08:22:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qePIG-00000MC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 08:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: creed@fse.ulaval.ca (Carlos Reed) Subject: Compiling Pine on solaris 2.3 gcc Message-Id: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 17:45:15 GMT Hi gang ! I'd been trying to compile pine under solaris 2.3 without succes so far. I have gcc as a compiler. I changed my CC variables to gcc. When I compile pine, I just can compile two biniries mtest and imaped. When pico and pine start to be compiled I get an error code -1 , it dosent found some DPOSIX stuff and usr/ucb/lib stuff Any work around tu compile pine onder solaris 2.3 with gcc? thanks in advance and have a good day creed@fse.ulaval.ca Carlos Reed from beautiful and lovely Quebec! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 10:00:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19866; Sat, 27 Aug 94 10:00:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23076; Sat, 27 Aug 94 09:52:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23068; Sat, 27 Aug 94 09:52:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeQgX-00000MC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 09:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cyl@ifcss.org (~{3BR]Az~}CHEN Yilong) Subject: Re: Pine and PC-Pine 3.90 now available Date: 27 Aug 1994 12:57:06 GMT Message-Id: <33nd72$27u@ifcss.org> References: also avaliable in gzip format at ftp://ifcss.org/software/unix/networking/pine3.90.tar.gz -- +lnM Nelson Chin 102 Brook Street Quincy MA 02170 1508 024 USA +kDg CIIP: nchin+AEA-hnt.com CICC: cyl+AEA-ifcss.org PH:+-1 617 472 2851 +n40 PRODIGY: GWBV10E+AEA-prodigy.com BU: butta1+AEA-bu.edu UTF-7 code From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 10:52:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20984; Sat, 27 Aug 94 10:52:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24193; Sat, 27 Aug 94 10:37:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from dutepp6.et.tudelft.nl by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24187; Sat, 27 Aug 94 10:37:39 -0700 Received: by dutepp6.et.tudelft.nl id AA20501 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Sat, 27 Aug 1994 19:37:37 +0200 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 19:37:37 +0200 (MET DST) From: Richard Kooijman X-Sender: richard@dutepp6.et.tudelft.nl To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and PC-Pine 3.90 now available In-Reply-To: <33nd72$27u@ifcss.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Available also at: dnpap.et.tudelft.nl:/pub/Unix/Mail/pine3.90.tar.gz Richard. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 10:54:49 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21035; Sat, 27 Aug 94 10:54:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29306; Sat, 27 Aug 94 10:41:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29300; Sat, 27 Aug 94 10:41:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeRTp-00000MC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 10:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: ...filters [FAQ] Date: 26 Aug 1994 21:19:21 -0700 Message-Id: <33mes9$2es@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: <33bk6r$b6m@xcalibur.IntNet.net> In article , Blain Nelson wrote: : :For that matter, why can't Pine be involved in the delivery process? Is :there a law? : I'm sure pine could be modified to be a local delivery agent. But why bother, when existing programs (like /bin/mail) already do that? Also, local delivery agents usually have to run with special privileges -- /bin/mail is setuid root (or setgid mail). Making pine setuid root would not be a good idea! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 11:01:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21203; Sat, 27 Aug 94 11:01:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24633; Sat, 27 Aug 94 10:53:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24627; Sat, 27 Aug 94 10:53:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeRe9-00000PC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 10:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: ...filters [FAQ] Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 21:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <33bk6r$b6m@xcalibur.IntNet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 27 Aug 1994, Blain Nelson wrote: > David L Miller writes: > > > >On 26 Aug 1994, Blain Nelson wrote: > > > >The logical place to handle filtering is during the delivery process. Since > >Pine is not involved with the delivery process, why would it be involved with > >filtering? > > Maybe because it's a mail thing and Pine handles mail. Maybe because > having access to Pine does not guarantee access to filtering otherwise. > Maybe because ELM does it and Pine is Nearly Elm. Maybe because I've > seen posts here approximately weekly asking for the feature. > ELM does *not* do filtering. The "filter" program in the ELM distribution is a completely independent application that works just as well with Pine. > For that matter, why can't Pine be involved in the delivery process? Is > there a law? > Not in the legal sense, but in practical terms, yes. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 11:37:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21882; Sat, 27 Aug 94 11:37:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00435; Sat, 27 Aug 94 11:26:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00429; Sat, 27 Aug 94 11:26:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeSCH-00001JC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 11:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Selcuk Ozturk Subject: Bug in Pine? Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 11:39:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There was a slight problem I was having with Pine 3.89. I hoped it would go away with 3.90, but the same problem goes on: I cannot set saved-msg-name-rule to anything other than by-from and default-folder. I can set them in 3.90 with the configuration screen and they work fine in that session. But when I quit and begin a new session Pine changes the setting back to by-from if it wasn't already by-from or default-folder. I there something I am missing? I use Pine on a Sun4. Does anybody else has the same problem? Selcuk Ozturk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 12:24:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22727; Sat, 27 Aug 94 12:24:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26815; Sat, 27 Aug 94 12:16:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26807; Sat, 27 Aug 94 12:16:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeSxg-00000NC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 11:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr) Subject: "Pine Secrets" document Date: 27 Aug 1994 12:37:19 -0400 Message-Id: <33nq3v$3od@bosnia.pop.psu.edu> I tried the "Request Pine 3.90 secrets" document on the opening screen, but the mail bounced. The original message was received at Sat, 27 Aug 1994 12:28:57 -0400 from barr@localhost ----- The following addresses had delivery problems ----- pine390@docserver.cac.washington.edu (unrecoverable error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 501 pine390@docserver.cac.washington.edu... 550 Host unknown (Name server: docserver.cac.washington.edu: host not found) --Dave From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 12:30:13 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22807; Sat, 27 Aug 94 12:30:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01873; Sat, 27 Aug 94 12:23:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01867; Sat, 27 Aug 94 12:23:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeT2o-00000PC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 12:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bosch@lx3.iend.wau.nl (Arnold C. Bosch) Subject: Pine and confirmation Date: 27 Aug 1994 07:40:47 GMT Message-Id: <33mqlv$ocl@trex.iend.wau.nl> Is there a way to set 'read-receipt' and 'delivery-receipt' in Pine? This feature sends a message back if the recipient has read or received the message (if the remote mailer supports this feature of course). Thanks, --- Arnold Bosch. |====================================================================| | Internet: Arnold.Bosch@Net.WAU.NL | | Phone : +31 (0)837084716; Fax :+31 (0)837084731 | | Department for Information Management and Datacommunication (I&D) | | Agricultural University, Wageningen, the Netherlands | | X400 : c=NL;a=400net;p=Surf;o=WAU;ou=Net;s=Bosch;gi=Arnold | |====================================================================| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 14:30:35 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24856; Sat, 27 Aug 94 14:30:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04632; Sat, 27 Aug 94 14:24:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04626; Sat, 27 Aug 94 14:24:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeUxs-00000PC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 14:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: "Pine Secrets" document Date: 27 Aug 94 19:34:30 GMT Message-Id: References: <33nq3v$3od@bosnia.pop.psu.edu> barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr) writes: >I tried the "Request Pine 3.90 secrets" document on the opening >screen, but the mail bounced. >The original message was received at Sat, 27 Aug 1994 12:28:57 -0400 >from barr@localhost > ----- The following addresses had delivery problems ----- >pine390@docserver.cac.washington.edu (unrecoverable error) > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >501 pine390@docserver.cac.washington.edu... 550 Host unknown (Name server: docserver.cac.washington.edu: host not found) >--Dave metoo. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 14:31:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24908; Sat, 27 Aug 94 14:31:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00124; Sat, 27 Aug 94 14:23:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00118; Sat, 27 Aug 94 14:23:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeUv4-00000MC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 14:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: UNIX pine 3.90 and pico - any surprises?? Date: 27 Aug 94 19:29:16 GMT Message-Id: I am running the new pine on SunOS 4.1.3. The new features that I have tried are really nice. If I were to simply replace the system-wide pine 3.89 binary, would my users notice any difference? Is the new pico any different at all? I do not answer the trouble calls at our site and I do not want to surprise/confuse any of the users. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 14:39:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25071; Sat, 27 Aug 94 14:39:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00356; Sat, 27 Aug 94 14:32:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00350; Sat, 27 Aug 94 14:32:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeV6M-00000QC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 14:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: startup error with 3.90 on SunOS 4.1.3 Date: 27 Aug 94 19:40:46 GMT Message-Id: I am running the new pine on SunOS 4.1.3 on a machine that has previously been running 3.89. I have only changed my own .pinerc file. When I start the new binary I get a status message at the bottom of the opening screen to the effect of "Bad Context: unmatched '}' : (something else)". Is this probably being provoked by something in my old system-wide rc file? If not, any other ideas? -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 14:49:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25240; Sat, 27 Aug 94 14:49:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05102; Sat, 27 Aug 94 14:42:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05096; Sat, 27 Aug 94 14:42:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeVCi-00000VC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 14:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rxr401@leonard.anu.edu.au (rxr401) Subject: Re: Pine version 3.90 is great! Date: 27 Aug 1994 14:41:53 GMT Message-Id: <33njbh$nub@sybil.anu.edu.au> References: In article 100000@dutepp6.et.tudelft.nl, R.Kooijman@et.tudelft.nl (Richard Kooijman) writes: >BTW The Pine team didn't mention much about the new setup/configure >screen, but with all the options there with context sensitive help it is >a very good improvement. How did you get it going ? I have spent three hours without any result. Typing "build lnx" (for Linux) only results in a message "can't find specfile lnx". I could compile pico and imap individually, but no such luck with pine. Raj Rajesh.Raj@anu.edu.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 15:52:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26446; Sat, 27 Aug 94 15:52:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06584; Sat, 27 Aug 94 15:45:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06577; Sat, 27 Aug 94 15:45:02 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03113; Sat, 27 Aug 94 15:45:02 -0700 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 15:45:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "Pine Secrets" document In-Reply-To: <33nq3v$3od@bosnia.pop.psu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII One of the four authoritative name servers for cac.washington.edu has stale data which, unfortunately, doesn't know about the hostname docserver. If you are unlucky enough to ask that name server it will tell you there is no such host. We've removed that server from the list of authoritative server and are trying to get that server's date updated, so this shouldn't happen to too many more people. Sorry about the inconvenience. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On 27 Aug 1994, David Barr wrote: > I tried the "Request Pine 3.90 secrets" document on the opening > screen, but the mail bounced. > > > The original message was received at Sat, 27 Aug 1994 12:28:57 -0400 > from barr@localhost > > ----- The following addresses had delivery problems ----- > pine390@docserver.cac.washington.edu (unrecoverable error) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > 501 pine390@docserver.cac.washington.edu... 550 Host unknown (Name server: docserver.cac.washington.edu: host not found) > > --Dave > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 16:10:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26730; Sat, 27 Aug 94 16:10:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02706; Sat, 27 Aug 94 16:02:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02699; Sat, 27 Aug 94 16:02:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeWTW-00000MC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 15:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 for SCO Unix? Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 18:45:34 GMT Message-Id: References: Steven E. Frazier (sfrazier@eng.infinet.com) wrote: : Has anyone compiled Pine/Pico for SCO ODT/Unix yet, and is the binaries : available anywhere? It's been out, what, 6 hours? Give me a few minutes. It'll be on soils.agron.iastate.edu whenever I can get to it. I _am_ at home and _moving_ this weekend, after all... I'll post here crossed to biz.sco.general when i's done. And I'll offer the binary to the Pine Development team if thay don't already have it. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 16:26:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26996; Sat, 27 Aug 94 16:26:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07361; Sat, 27 Aug 94 16:17:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07355; Sat, 27 Aug 94 16:17:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeWhB-00000NC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 15:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: One problem (was Re: Pine 3.90 is out!!!) Date: 27 Aug 94 19:22:51 GMT Message-Id: References: <33ms30$evg@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu> setspike@mcl.ucsb.edu (Jason Pascual) writes: >For those of you not on the mailing list, Pine 3.90 is available. I just >finished downloading and compiling it and the new features are really great. >I think most of us who have been eagerly awaiting it's arrival will be >quite pleased with it. >Jason Pascual >Microcomputer Lab >Systems Operator >setspike@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu use-alternate-editor-implicitly is the greatest thing since grocery stores! No more confusion over which editor I am in. One problem: when I started it up it asked if I wanted "Hints". I told it yes, but the machine it mailed to was unavailable. The returned message follows: Date: Sat, 27 Aug 94 14:31:22 EDT From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: ellis@nova Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 421 Host docserver.cac.washington.edu not found for mailer ddn. 550 pine390@docserver.cac.washington.edu... Host unknown ----- Unsent message follows ----- Return-Path: Received: by nova.gmi.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-DNI) id AA15061; Sat, 27 Aug 94 14:31:22 EDT Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 14:31:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "R. Stewart Ellis" To: pine390@docserver.cac.washington.edu Subject: Document Request Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Document request: Pine390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 16:55:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27477; Sat, 27 Aug 94 16:55:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03913; Sat, 27 Aug 94 16:47:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03904; Sat, 27 Aug 94 16:47:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeXEV-00000MC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 16:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Prem Sumetpong Subject: Re: Pine and PC-Pine 3.90 now available Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 02:35:41 +0700 (GMT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Thanx pine development team ! great job! Prem ps. this posting is done via pine3.90 on the Data General. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 17:38:49 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28284; Sat, 27 Aug 94 17:38:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09145; Sat, 27 Aug 94 17:27:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09139; Sat, 27 Aug 94 17:27:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeXmr-00000MC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 17:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gunther Anderson Subject: Pine 3.90 Binaries for SCO available Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 21:42:21 GMT Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 I have compiled the Pine 3.90 distribution for SCO Unix (SYSVr3.2v4.2, with Dev/Sys and TCP/IP 1.2.1), and am making it available through the anonymous FTP archives on soils.agron.iastate.edu. It should be noted that Pine 3.90 builds "out of the box" for SCO, with no modifications necessary whatsoever on my system. The only change I made was to turn off the DEBUG flag. I have just uploaded a single tar file with all the Pine 3.90 binaries and man pages included in it, to the directory /pub/incoming, on the machine soils.agron.iastate.edu. It should be moved soon to /pub/sco/unix/pine. The file name is pine3.90.dist.sco.tar.gz1, and it should probably be renamed to plain .gz when it gets moved. You should definitely change the name when you download it. There is also a pine3.90.dist.sco.tar.gz which is only half as large, and was interrupted in transmission. Please ignore that one. The source to this package is freely available from anonymous FTP from ftp.cac.washington.edc, and compiles without modification on SCO Unix systems. The tar file has a README in it. However, if anyone's curious, the files contained therein are: pine3.90/ README.builder Info about me and this little distribution README.dist README.imap README.pine The three README files from the Pine3.90 source brochure.txt Pine overview from the doc/ directory of source pine3.90/bin: imapd The IMAP2 daemon ipop2d POP2 daemon ipop3d POP3 daemon mtest Mail routines test program pico Pico (Pine Composer) binary pine Pine 3.90 binary pine3.90/man: imapd.8c Man page for imapd ipopd.8c Man page for POP2 and POP3 servers pico.1 Man page for Pico pine.1 Man page for Pine 3.90 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 17:49:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28482; Sat, 27 Aug 94 17:49:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05170; Sat, 27 Aug 94 17:39:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05163; Sat, 27 Aug 94 17:39:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeXyE-00000PC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 17:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr) Subject: Re: "Pine Secrets" document Date: 27 Aug 1994 18:33:16 -0400 Message-Id: <33oevc$5f3@bosnia.pop.psu.edu> References: <33nq3v$3od@bosnia.pop.psu.edu> In article <33nq3v$3od@bosnia.pop.psu.edu>, David Barr wrote: >I tried the "Request Pine 3.90 secrets" document on the opening >screen, but the mail bounced. On further inspection, it seems that the "docserver.cac.washington.edu" CNAME was recently added (apparently sometime on 27 August) and hadn't yet propagated to many of the secondary nameservers. In fact, june.cs.washington.edu is still carrying zone data 20 July, and ns.unet.umn.edu has data from 25 August. So anyway, it may be a few hours or days until things stabalize for everyone. --Dave From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 18:35:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29228; Sat, 27 Aug 94 18:35:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06320; Sat, 27 Aug 94 18:25:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from atc.boeing.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06314; Sat, 27 Aug 94 18:25:53 -0700 Received: by atc.boeing.com (5.57) id AA25243; Sat, 27 Aug 94 18:28:37 -0700 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 18:28:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Buck To: Pine List Subject: Can't Customize Compose Headers Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I tried updating the default-compose-hdrs field of the SETUP:Config menu without any luck. I wanted to add Bcc: the list of headers that I see in COMPOSE MESSAGE. The error that I saw as "No default-composer-hdrs matched, displaying defaults" I used the syntax as follows: default-composer-hdrs = To : Cc : Bcc : Attchmnt: Subject : -- Thanks, Jim Buck or SGDI03(S0102973) BCS CATIA Plotting Applications, G-2D17 (206) 965-6072 / Issaquah, Washington / 7-359 12N4 / MS 7P-CP From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 19:06:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29900; Sat, 27 Aug 94 19:06:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11239; Sat, 27 Aug 94 18:58:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11233; Sat, 27 Aug 94 18:58:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeZGA-00000PC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 18:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kah305@leonard.anu.edu.au (Kelly Hite) Subject: HELP!! Pine3.90 compilation problems on Linux Date: 28 Aug 1994 01:01:42 GMT Message-Id: <33onlm$rha@sybil.anu.edu.au> How do I make "build" command work ? I read all the documents, but whenever I enter "build lnx", it only responds with can't find specfile lnx Is it a general problem or specific to linux ? Or, do I need to do anything else before using build ? [I have edited the makefiles as suggested in the documents.] I would appreciate any help. Kelly Kelly.Hite@anu.edu.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 19:49:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00796; Sat, 27 Aug 94 19:49:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08282; Sat, 27 Aug 94 19:43:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from werple.apana.org.au by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08274; Sat, 27 Aug 94 19:42:55 -0700 Received: from bushwire.apana.org.au (root@bushwire.apana.org.au [192.188.107.58]) by werple.apana.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA22734 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 1994 12:42:47 +1000 Received: (from news@localhost) by bushwire.apana.org.au (8.6.7/bwnf7) id MAA07391; Sun, 28 Aug 1994 12:42:44 +1000 To: apana-lists-mail-pine@apana.org.au Path: usenet From: Mark Delany Newsgroups: apana.lists.mail.pine Subject: Pine 3.90 patches for NetBSD (was Pine and PC-Pine 3.90...) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 12:42:40 +1000 (EST) Organization: APANA regional feed site - Melbourne, Australia. Lines: 18 Message-Id: References: Nntp-Posting-Host: localhost.apana.org.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 27 Aug 1994, Michael Seibel wrote: > This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System > version 3.90. > Pine version 3.90 is available via anonymous ftp to ftp.cac.washington.edu > from the file named "pine/pine.tar.Z". There is now a patchfile for NetBSD 0.9A and 1.0A that has had *limited* testing (eg: this is the first news posting using it). bushwire.apana.org.au:pub/mail -r--r--r-- 1 markd staff 81074 Aug 28 11:42 pine3.90-netbsd-patches M.. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 20:33:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01463; Sat, 27 Aug 94 20:33:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09339; Sat, 27 Aug 94 20:25:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09333; Sat, 27 Aug 94 20:25:11 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA23405; Sun, 28 Aug 94 11:26:24 +0800 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 11:26:24 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Can't Customize Compose Headers To: Jim Buck Cc: Pine List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 27 Aug 1994, Jim Buck wrote: > I tried updating the default-compose-hdrs field of the SETUP:Config menu > without any luck. I wanted to add Bcc: the list of headers that I see > in COMPOSE MESSAGE. The error that I saw as > "No default-composer-hdrs matched, displaying defaults" > > I used the syntax as follows: > > default-composer-hdrs = To : > Cc : > Bcc : > Attchmnt: > Subject : Omit the ":" from your syntax. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 21:11:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02115; Sat, 27 Aug 94 21:11:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10369; Sat, 27 Aug 94 21:04:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10363; Sat, 27 Aug 94 21:04:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeb9y-00000MC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 20:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nishri@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Alex Nishri) Subject: Re: Where does DOS & PC-Pine get timezone? Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 16:12:36 GMT I solved my problem. This message may be of use to others. PC-Pine is always getting the "Date:" field timezone information correct in any mail we send. We had never set the DOS TZ variable and it was not obvious where the timezone information was coming from. The only reason we pursued this is because we once had a problem with ECSMail for Windows getting the timezone wrong once in a while and wanted to make sure that affliction would not affect Pine. In that case, we also never figured out where ECSMail was getting the timezone information from and hence we didn't know why it was randomly wrong. ISA told us that there was a DOS or Windows system call for setting and getting the timezone, and that is where ECSMail was getting it from. The default timezone for MS-DOS, if its not set, is Pacific Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Time (i.e. the correct timezone for the Microsoft headquarters); so what software was setting it to Eastern time, which is appropriate for Toronto where I am? (ISA fixed the problem by providing Windows ECSMail with a timezone configuration option which overrides the internal system timezone.) This morning we finally figured it out. The date, time, and most important, the timezone are set by logging into our Novell Netware server. (A standard part of configurating a Netware server is telling it the timezone its in.) When we rebooted a PC, explicitly did not login to out Novell Netware server, and tried sending messages from Pine--it used Pacific Daylight Time. (Both the sendmail and zmailer SMTP servers will change the "Date:" *timezone* so it is the local one, by changing the *time*. As a result, the symptom users will see is that the *time*, not *timezone*, is wrong.) The moral of the story, as David Miller correctly says, is you should set the DOS TZ environment variable to explicitly give the timezone. (With ECSMail, ISA now provides a number of alternative ways to specify the timezone. For Macintosh packages, the situation is different; packages such as Mailstorm and Eudora use the "Map" control panel which unfortunately is half baked--the MacOS understands timezones, but not the concept of daylight saving time.) Alex Nishri University of Toronto In article , David L Miller wrote: > >DOS uses the TZ environment variable. Note that the rfc822_date() function >is very OS-dependent and uses different code for different platforms... > >|\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 >|/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) >University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 >4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > >On Wed, 24 Aug 1994, Alex Nishri wrote: > >> PC-Pine is getting the time and timezone information in the rfc822 "Date:" >> header correct in the mail that I send. But where does it get its >> information from? Looking at the source, I see that it uses tzset(), time(), >> and localtime() to do its magic; I know how these routines work on my Unix >> machine. But where do these C routines get to know about timezones on my >> MS-DOS machine? There doesn't appear to be any way to set the timezone in DOS? >> >> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 21:26:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02392; Sat, 27 Aug 94 21:26:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14726; Sat, 27 Aug 94 21:19:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14720; Sat, 27 Aug 94 21:19:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qebQc-00000PC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 21:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Greg Martz Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 for SCO Unix? Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 19:24:21 -700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 27 Aug 1994, Steven E. Frazier wrote: > Has anyone compiled Pine/Pico for SCO ODT/Unix yet, and is the binaries > available anywhere? Either on soils.agron.iastate.edu in /pub/incoming (get the .gz1, not the .gz), or here ftp.nwcl.net in /pub/sco-ports. Greg Martz (gmartz@nwcl.net)|NorthWest CommLink - Your Gateway to the Internet Voice [+1 206 336 0103] |(shell, menu, SLIP, PPP) in Skagit County, WA info@nwcl.net for more info |Mt. Vernon's *first* Internet Provider From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 23:02:53 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04027; Sat, 27 Aug 94 23:02:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17060; Sat, 27 Aug 94 22:54:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17054; Sat, 27 Aug 94 22:54:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qectQ-00000MC; Sat, 27 Aug 94 22:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nelson CHIN Subject: news features of pine3.90? Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 00:22:09 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII how do i cross post in pine.. also how to followup post? how do i post an email message i rec'd to a newsgroup? how to mark newsgroups all read, in the listing of newsgroups, how to show the number of articles unread? nelson +lnM Nelson Chin 102 Brook Street Quincy MA 02170 1508 024 USA +kDg CIIP: nchin+AEA-hnt.com CICC: cyl+AEA-ifcss.org PH:+-1 617 472 2851 +n40 PRODIGY: GWBV10E+AEA-prodigy.com BU: butta1+AEA-bu.edu UTF-7 code From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 23:07:21 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04158; Sat, 27 Aug 94 23:07:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13456; Sat, 27 Aug 94 22:58:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13443; Sat, 27 Aug 94 22:58:15 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00362; Sat, 27 Aug 94 22:57:50 -0700 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 22:57:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Jim Buck Cc: Pine List Subject: Re: Can't Customize Compose Headers In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > I used the syntax as follows: > > > > default-composer-hdrs = To : > > Cc : > > Bcc : > > Attchmnt: > > Subject : > > Omit the ":" from your syntax. We'll make sure this gets fixed in the first bug-fix release after 3.90. Thanks for reporting it. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 27 23:16:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04313; Sat, 27 Aug 94 23:16:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13768; Sat, 27 Aug 94 23:08:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13762; Sat, 27 Aug 94 23:08:20 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00555; Sat, 27 Aug 94 23:08:17 -0700 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 23:08:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: David Barr Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "Pine Secrets" document In-Reply-To: <33oevc$5f3@bosnia.pop.psu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 27 Aug 1994, David Barr wrote: > In article <33nq3v$3od@bosnia.pop.psu.edu>, > David Barr wrote: > >I tried the "Request Pine 3.90 secrets" document on the opening > >screen, but the mail bounced. > > On further inspection, it seems that the "docserver.cac.washington.edu" > CNAME was recently added (apparently sometime on 27 August) and hadn't > yet propagated to many of the secondary nameservers. In fact, > june.cs.washington.edu is still carrying zone data 20 July, and > ns.unet.umn.edu has data from 25 August. It wasn't actually that bad. The docserver CNAME was added August 3rd (hey, we even tested it!). The part about june carrying stale data is correct and was the problem. Everything should be working smoothly now. > So anyway, it may be a few hours or days until things stabalize > for everyone. > > --Dave Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 00:57:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06227; Sun, 28 Aug 94 00:57:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16263; Sun, 28 Aug 94 00:44:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16257; Sun, 28 Aug 94 00:44:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeeck-00000fC; Sun, 28 Aug 94 00:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: martini@tigana.nynexst.com (Matthew E. Martini) Subject: Pine 3.90 ported to A/UX Date: 28 Aug 1994 06:17:07 GMT Message-Id: <33pa53$bib@news.nynexst.com> The new release of pine 3.90 has been ported to A/UX. Both the source and binaries have been uploaded to jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov and should be available soon (right Jim ;-) The binaries were created on A/UX 3.1 using gcc 2.5.7a. The source should compile on earlier versions of A/UX (I haven't tested this). This release has some slick enhancements, good going guys! Matt -- _____________________________________________________________________________ Matthew E. Martini, PE NYNEX Science & Technology (914) 644-2620 martini@nynexst.com 400 Westchester Av., Room 136A (914) 644-2153 Fax 74730,3264 CIS White Plains, NY 10604 _____________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 01:22:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06939; Sun, 28 Aug 94 01:22:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16971; Sun, 28 Aug 94 01:10:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16965; Sun, 28 Aug 94 01:10:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeemA-000008C; Sun, 28 Aug 94 00:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ralphs@halcyon.halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) Subject: garbage character revisited Date: 28 Aug 1994 05:11:56 GMT Message-Id: <33p6as$crt@news.halcyon.com> The 'garbage' character associated with pico under linux is still there, but fixable. The pine team may wish to incorporate the fix in future releases. Change #if MSDOS to #if MSDOS || LINUX in ~pico/display.c From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 01:23:16 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06976; Sun, 28 Aug 94 01:23:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20048; Sun, 28 Aug 94 01:10:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20039; Sun, 28 Aug 94 01:10:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeelV-00000hC; Sun, 28 Aug 94 00:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad@BTMedia.Mankato.MN.US (Brad Theissen) Subject: Help with BSDI Date: 28 Aug 1994 06:25:16 GMT Message-Id: If anyone has successfully adapted PINE for use with the BSDI router product, we would sure appreciate hearing from you! Thanks! ..................................................................... Brad Theissen - Brad@BTMedia.Mankato.MN.US photographer, Videomaker, Cable TV producer From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 06:13:29 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13107; Sun, 28 Aug 94 06:13:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27330; Sun, 28 Aug 94 06:02:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from eng.infinet.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27321; Sun, 28 Aug 94 06:02:16 -0700 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 09:02:02 -400 (EDT) From: "Steven E. Frazier" Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 for SCO Unix? To: Gunther Anderson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks very much! Your hard work is greatly appreciated! Thanks again! Steve On Sat, 27 Aug 1994, Gunther Anderson wrote: > Steven E. Frazier (sfrazier@eng.infinet.com) wrote: > : Has anyone compiled Pine/Pico for SCO ODT/Unix yet, and is the binaries > : available anywhere? > > It's been out, what, 6 hours? Give me a few minutes. It'll be on > soils.agron.iastate.edu whenever I can get to it. I _am_ at home and > _moving_ this weekend, after all... I'll post here crossed to > biz.sco.general when i's done. And I'll offer the binary to the Pine > Development team if thay don't already have it. > > Gunther Anderson > >  Norstan Communications, Inc. | Steven E. Frazier 8101 N. High Street Suite 100 |--------------------------------------- Columbus, OH 43235 | Local : sfrazier Voice 614-785-7335 Fax 614-785-7367 | Remote: sfrazier@futurenet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 07:19:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14148; Sun, 28 Aug 94 07:19:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28614; Sun, 28 Aug 94 07:05:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from eng.infinet.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28607; Sun, 28 Aug 94 07:05:27 -0700 Received: from eng.infinet.com by eng.futurenet.com id aa04973; 28 Aug 94 10:05 EDT Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 10:05:14 -400 (EDT) From: "Steven E. Frazier" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine - the from address Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just installed pine 3.90, it is very nice. my return mail address shows sfrazier@infinet.com vs. sfrazier@eng.infinet.com. I changed my domain name in the setup but it didn't matter, can someone point me in the right direction on how to get eng.infinet.com there vs just infinet.com Thanks. Steve Norstan Communications, Inc. | Steven E. Frazier 8101 N. High Street Suite 100 |--------------------------------------- Columbus, OH 43235 | Local : sfrazier Voice 614-785-7335 Fax 614-785-7367 | Remote: sfrazier@futurenet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 08:14:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14944; Sun, 28 Aug 94 08:14:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27738; Sun, 28 Aug 94 07:57:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27728; Sun, 28 Aug 94 07:56:56 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA29769; Sun, 28 Aug 94 22:56:57 +0800 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 22:56:57 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Pine - the from address To: "Steven E. Frazier" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 28 Aug 1994, Steven E. Frazier wrote: > I just installed pine 3.90, it is very nice. my return mail address > shows sfrazier@infinet.com vs. sfrazier@eng.infinet.com. I changed my > domain name in the setup but it didn't matter, can someone point me in > the right direction on how to get eng.infinet.com there vs just infinet.com The help menu says: This value specifies the domain part (right-hand side) of your return address on outgoing email and is also used as the default domain for email composed to a local user. If unset, Unix Pine will obtain the domain from the system. Often this value will be set for your whole site by the system administrator. It is a bit confusing...but it means the FQDN or the entire right-hand side...including the hostname. Then, to get pine to lookup in the passwd file you may also want to set: user-lookup-even-if-domain-mismatch Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 08:17:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14994; Sun, 28 Aug 94 08:17:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27760; Sun, 28 Aug 94 07:58:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27754; Sun, 28 Aug 94 07:58:06 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA29793; Sun, 28 Aug 94 22:59:18 +0800 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 22:59:17 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Pine - the from address To: "Steven E. Frazier" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII And to continue what I was saying.... Set the user doamin to: eng.infinet.com Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 08:37:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15365; Sun, 28 Aug 94 08:37:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28337; Sun, 28 Aug 94 08:24:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ousrvr.oulu.fi by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28331; Sun, 28 Aug 94 08:24:09 -0700 Received: from paju.oulu.fi by oulu.fi (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14351; Sun, 28 Aug 94 18:23:37 +0300 Received: by paju.oulu.fi (931110.SGI/930416.SGI.AUTO) for @ousrvr.oulu.fi:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA20686; Sun, 28 Aug 94 18:23:36 +0300 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 18:23:33 -12000 From: Marko Hotti To: Pine-Info Mailing List Subject: news posting doesn't work... Message-Id: X-Facsimile: +358-(9)81-331005 X-Telephone: +358-(9)81-5304878 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've been using the new 3.90 version for two days now and really like it. There are, however, some problems with the post-to-newsgroup feature. I tried to post to an existing local test group but got an error message: Error 441 Can't parse "Date" header !!! Any idea about what's wrong??? -Marko- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Marko Hotti University of Oulu Faculty of Medicine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 09:00:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15719; Sun, 28 Aug 94 09:00:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00931; Sun, 28 Aug 94 08:49:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00925; Sun, 28 Aug 94 08:49:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qemBo-00000MC; Sun, 28 Aug 94 08:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: linguist@m-net.arbornet.org (Rich Paul) Subject: Annoying .pine-debug## files Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 12:42:29 GMT Message-Id: I've got a .pine-debug## file appearing in my home dir every time I run pine ... can this be killed? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Rich Paul | Not the net police ... linguist@m-net.arbornet.org | Just another crank. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 09:39:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16429; Sun, 28 Aug 94 09:39:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29590; Sun, 28 Aug 94 09:19:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29584; Sun, 28 Aug 94 09:19:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qemdh-000008C; Sun, 28 Aug 94 08:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: A plea to pine team (Re: Annoying .pine-debug## files) Date: 28 Aug 94 13:56:29 GMT Message-Id: References: linguist@m-net.arbornet.org (Rich Paul) writes: >I've got a .pine-debug## file appearing in my home dir every time I run pine >... can this be killed? >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Rich Paul | Not the net police ... >linguist@m-net.arbornet.org | Just another crank. >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The hints file says you can recompile, which was also true of 3.89. With all the other things that can be set in the rc files, it would seem nearly trivial to have this as a settable option. If it already is and I missed it, forgive me. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 09:51:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16594; Sun, 28 Aug 94 09:51:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01858; Sun, 28 Aug 94 09:34:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01852; Sun, 28 Aug 94 09:34:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qemwV-00000PC; Sun, 28 Aug 94 09:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: woodp@zilker.net (Phil Wood) Subject: Re: Annoying .pine-debug## files Date: 28 Aug 1994 09:16:27 -0500 Message-Id: <33q67r$kgk@oak.zilker.net> References: In article linguist@m-net.arbornet.org (Rich Paul) writes: >I've got a .pine-debug## file appearing in my home dir every time I run pine >... can this be killed? Try running pine with a '-d0' switch. -- Phil Wood, Austin, Texas USA woodp@zilker.net 73717.3453@compuserve.com woodp@sigscv1.serigate.philips.nl Phil Wood From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 10:11:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16967; Sun, 28 Aug 94 10:11:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00492; Sun, 28 Aug 94 09:56:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00477; Sun, 28 Aug 94 09:55:42 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA01282; Mon, 29 Aug 94 00:56:45 +0800 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 00:56:45 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Annoying .pine-debug## files To: Rich Paul Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 28 Aug 1994, Rich Paul wrote: > I've got a .pine-debug## file appearing in my home dir every time I run pine > ... can this be killed? You can start pine with "pine -d 0" or you can recompile without the -DDEBUG option. I believe you will have to take it out of the individual makefile for the platform you are building Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 11:26:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18393; Sun, 28 Aug 94 11:26:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02234; Sun, 28 Aug 94 11:14:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02228; Sun, 28 Aug 94 11:14:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeoUC-000008C; Sun, 28 Aug 94 10:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: d93rkr@t.hfb.se (Robert Krenn) Subject: Pine for MiNT! ATARI MiNT???? Message-Id: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 15:36:23 GMT Is this what I read what I think it is? A default "build" for MiNT to ATARI? Well I must say that MiNT really starts showing up with the BIG boys, UNIX, Solaris and so on.... mnt: # Mint $(MAKE) mtest OS=$@ EXTRADRIVERS="$(EXTRADRIVERS)" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto \ CFLAGS="-O -I. -I/mac/h -I/mac/h-tcp $(EXTRACFLAGS)" \ CC=gcc ARRC="gcc-ar rc" RANLIB=true \ LDFLAGS="-L/mac/lib /mac/lib-tcp/dnr.o -llibmac -llibmac This is to good to be true! A happy MiNT user: Robert -- d93rkr@t.hfb.se (Robert Krenn) _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ LYNX tel: +46-243224839 _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ STm University of Borlange, Sweden _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ STe _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ F-030 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 11:45:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18787; Sun, 28 Aug 94 11:45:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04340; Sun, 28 Aug 94 11:34:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04333; Sun, 28 Aug 94 11:34:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeonx-000008C; Sun, 28 Aug 94 11:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: elias@umich.edu (Elias Baumgarten) Subject: Pine 3.90--Need wattcp.cfg file? Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 12:32:38 Message-Id: I am a relative beginner (so requesting patience, etc.). I have used PC-Pine 3.89 successfully and downloaded PC-Pine 3.90 (for use with DOS). It doesn't recognize that I have TCP working, and the setup information refers to the need to configure a wattcp.cfg file. But this file did not come with my download. Where can I get it, with instructions? Or if I just need to create a text file with one line, what information needs to be in that line? With PC-Pine 3.89, I used a batch file created by my university which installed kerbmem and presumably some other stuff. Since it may be some time before the university folks help with 3.90, I'm wondering if I can get it working with that wattcp.cfg file (and the set variable mentioned in the setup instructions). Any help with this would be appreciated. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 11:56:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18957; Sun, 28 Aug 94 11:56:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03080; Sun, 28 Aug 94 11:44:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03074; Sun, 28 Aug 94 11:44:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeoxK-00000MC; Sun, 28 Aug 94 11:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mjr@netaxs.com (Mark Rosen) Subject: attaching binary files Date: 28 Aug 1994 16:45:44 GMT Message-Id: <33qevo$puc@netaxs.com> If I attach a binary file, do I need to tell pine that it's a binary file or will it recognize it? Mark -- "Keep looking up!" -- Jack Horkheimer, Star Hustler From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 12:16:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19355; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:16:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05157; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:04:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05151; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:04:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qepDU-00000MC; Sun, 28 Aug 94 11:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: A plea to pine team (Re: Annoying .pine-debug## files) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 10:41:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: You've got a chicken-and-egg problem there! The .pine-debug-file needs to be open when you read the config files so problems can be logged. Just set up Pine as an alias to "pine -d0", then you can go back and turn the .pine-debug files on when you need them. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 28 Aug 1994, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > linguist@m-net.arbornet.org (Rich Paul) writes: > > >I've got a .pine-debug## file appearing in my home dir every time I run pine > >... can this be killed? > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Rich Paul | Not the net police ... > >linguist@m-net.arbornet.org | Just another crank. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > The hints file says you can recompile, which was also true of 3.89. With > all the other things that can be set in the rc files, it would seem nearly > trivial to have this as a settable option. If it already is and I missed > it, forgive me. > > -- > R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ > Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ > Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / > Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 12:16:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19386; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:16:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05148; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:04:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05142; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:04:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qepDJ-000008C; Sun, 28 Aug 94 11:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: UNIX pine 3.90 and pico - any surprises?? Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 10:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: For a default configuration, the differences are minimal. Both 3.89 and 3.90 have the "-p pinerc" command line option, so you can compare them using the same .pinerc file without changing your own config... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 27 Aug 1994, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > I am running the new pine on SunOS 4.1.3. The new features that I have > tried are really nice. > > If I were to simply replace the system-wide pine 3.89 binary, would my users > notice any difference? Is the new pico any different at all? I do not > answer the trouble calls at our site and I do not want to surprise/confuse > any of the users. > > > > -- > R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ > Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ > Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / > Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 12:16:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19409; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:16:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05167; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:04:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05160; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:04:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qepF7-00000YC; Sun, 28 Aug 94 11:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: news posting doesn't work... Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 10:50:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: What NNTP server are you connecting to and can we access it from here? Followup to pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 29 Aug 1994, Marko Hotti wrote: > > I've been using the new 3.90 version for two days now and really like > it. There are, however, some problems with the post-to-newsgroup > feature. I tried to post to an existing local test group but got > an error message: Error 441 Can't parse "Date" header !!! Any idea > about what's wrong??? > > -Marko- > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Marko Hotti University of Oulu > Faculty of Medicine > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 12:17:13 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19432; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:17:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05176; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:04:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05170; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:04:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qepFb-00000aC; Sun, 28 Aug 94 11:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: redbear@hollywood.cinenet.net (Don Long) Subject: PC Pine Date: 28 Aug 1994 10:37:45 -0700 Message-Id: <33qi19$g8k@hollywood.cinenet.net> I get to Internet through a server that has Pine (along with Pico) I find it excellent. However, I can only use it while on-line to my server. It's a free phone call, and a flat rate, but it does tie up the phone. Can I load Pine on m,y PC at home and do all my reading and composing off-line? -- Don Long AKA Red Bear redbear@cinenet.net UCLA staff sans privileges Compuserve 74203,2601 "The philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways; the point is to change it" Karl Marx From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 12:17:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19444; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:17:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03605; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:04:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03599; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:04:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qepF3-00000VC; Sun, 28 Aug 94 11:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: garbage character revisited Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 10:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <33p6as$crt@news.halcyon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <33p6as$crt@news.halcyon.com> The "fix" came in too late for us to evaluate for 3.90. We'll take a look for 3.91. Thanks! |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 28 Aug 1994, Ralph Sims wrote: > The 'garbage' character associated with pico under linux is > still there, but fixable. The pine team may wish to incorporate > the fix in future releases. > > Change #if MSDOS to #if MSDOS || LINUX in ~pico/display.c > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 12:17:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19488; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:17:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03613; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:04:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03607; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:04:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qepF9-00000ZC; Sun, 28 Aug 94 11:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine 3.90--Need wattcp.cfg file? Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 10:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Are you certain you have the right version of PC-Pine 3.90 for your TCP/IP stack? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 28 Aug 1994, Elias Baumgarten wrote: > I am a relative beginner (so requesting patience, etc.). I have used PC-Pine > 3.89 successfully and downloaded PC-Pine 3.90 (for use with DOS). It doesn't > recognize that I have TCP working, and the setup information refers to the > need to configure a wattcp.cfg file. But this file did not come with my > download. Where can I get it, with instructions? Or if I just need to create a > text file with one line, what information needs to be in that line? > > With PC-Pine 3.89, I used a batch file created by my university which > installed kerbmem and presumably some other stuff. Since it may be some time > before the university folks help with 3.90, I'm wondering if I can get it > working with that wattcp.cfg file (and the set variable mentioned in the setup > instructions). > > Any help with this would be appreciated. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 12:18:21 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19519; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:18:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03597; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:04:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03591; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:04:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qepDM-00000PC; Sun, 28 Aug 94 11:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: startup error with 3.90 on SunOS 4.1.3 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 10:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Have you checked your .pine-debug1 file? It should give you some more info. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 27 Aug 1994, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > I am running the new pine on SunOS 4.1.3 on a machine that has previously > been running 3.89. I have only changed my own .pinerc file. When I start > the new binary I get a status message at the bottom of the opening screen to > the effect of "Bad Context: unmatched '}' : (something else)". > > Is this probably being provoked by something in my old system-wide rc file? > If not, any other ideas? > > > > -- > R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ > Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ > Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / > Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 12:24:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19615; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:24:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03865; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:12:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03858; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:12:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qepKo-00000bC; Sun, 28 Aug 94 11:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: attaching binary files Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 10:55:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <33qevo$puc@netaxs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <33qevo$puc@netaxs.com> Pine uses BASE64 encoding on all attachments, so being a binary file is not a problem. It does recognize a few binary file types and tag them accordingly (e.g. image/gif, text/postscript, etc). |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 28 Aug 1994, Mark Rosen wrote: > If I attach a binary file, do I need to tell pine that it's a binary file > or will it recognize it? > > Mark > > -- > "Keep looking up!" -- Jack Horkheimer, Star Hustler > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 13:28:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20885; Sun, 28 Aug 94 13:28:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07048; Sun, 28 Aug 94 13:14:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07041; Sun, 28 Aug 94 13:14:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeqMq-00000PC; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steven King [Really!]) Subject: Re: UNIX pine 3.90 and pico - any surprises?? Message-Id: <1994Aug28.184533.22008@pshrink.chi.il.us> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 18:45:33 GMT References: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) publicly declared: >If I were to simply replace the system-wide pine 3.89 binary, would my users >notice any difference? Is the new pico any different at all? I do not >answer the trouble calls at our site and I do not want to surprise/confuse >any of the users. After making a backup of my 3.89 binary (Just In Case) I went ahead and replaced it with 3.90. The users will see a splash screen saying, "Welcome to the new version" and be asked if they want the "Secrets of Pine" document via mail. After that they'll see no substantial changes unless they go looking for them. The user interface hasn't changed much at all. And I haven't noticed any changes whatsoever in Pico. If your users are real serious computerphobes they *might* get miffed by the slightly different way 3.90 displays attachments, but that's the biggest user-interface difference I've seen so far. (Mind you, I don't use Pine for news; just mail.) -- ------------------------------------------ "Gee, Brain, whaddaya wanna do tonight?" "The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world!" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 13:29:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20908; Sun, 28 Aug 94 13:29:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07038; Sun, 28 Aug 94 13:14:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07031; Sun, 28 Aug 94 13:14:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeqMn-000008C; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steven King [Really!]) Subject: Re: Setting 'vacation' mode Message-Id: <1994Aug28.162256.21528@pshrink.chi.il.us> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 16:22:56 GMT References: stu2@faxon.ca (Dion Vansevenant) publicly declared: > >Our users here do not have access to the shell. Does anyone know how they >could activate the 'vacation' setting in UNIX to indicate to people that >they are on vacation? > >Our in-house mailing system does it and it would be nice if they could >set it at the UNIX level as well. > >For the record we are using DG/UX 5.4.2 and Pine 3.86. TIA I'm afraid I don't understand your question. Your users don't have access to the shell, but you want to start 'vacation' at the Unix level? What are you calling "the Unix level" if it's not a shell prompt? -- Steven King, Proprietor of the PShrink Wrap BBS veck@pshrink.chi.il.us >> The Bumpy Two-Track Dirt Frontage Road << 14400 data & fax: >> Next To The Information Superhighway << +1 708 487 9727 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 13:30:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20956; Sun, 28 Aug 94 13:30:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05598; Sun, 28 Aug 94 13:14:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05592; Sun, 28 Aug 94 13:14:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeqMp-00000MC; Sun, 28 Aug 94 12:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steven King [Really!]) Subject: Re: Pine version 3.90 is great! Message-Id: <1994Aug28.183900.21911@pshrink.chi.il.us> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 18:39:00 GMT References: <33njbh$nub@sybil.anu.edu.au> rxr401@leonard.anu.edu.au publicly declared: >How did you get it going ? I have spent three hours without any result. >Typing "build lnx" (for Linux) only results in a message "can't find >specfile lnx". I could compile pico and imap individually, but no such >luck with pine. I built it under Linux with "build lnx" and had no problems at all. Is the current directory in your path? Maybe you're actually getting a different "build" program than the one that comes with Pine. Try... ./build lnx ...instead to force it to use the "build" script located in the current directory. If this still doesn't work, I reckon you've somehow got a bad distribution. Try to get a fresh copy from the archive site. BTW, let me add my comments that that new config screen is just about the greatest thing since sliced bread! -- ------------------------------------------ "This paperclip will serve as an antenna, grabbing neutrinos from the cosmos and providing ignition for this craft." "Astonishing, Brain! Um, will it also roast marshmallows?" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 13:44:19 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21323; Sun, 28 Aug 94 13:44:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07415; Sun, 28 Aug 94 13:29:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from faxon.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07407; Sun, 28 Aug 94 13:29:26 -0700 Received: by faxon.ca (5.4R2.01/192.139.186.253) id AA17696; Sun, 28 Aug 1994 16:26:35 -0400 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 16:18:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Dion Vansevenant Subject: Compiling on DG/UX To: Pine Messages Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Could some kind soul please help me? I was compiling pine 3.90 on our system and received the following error during c-client compilation: tcp_unix.c: In function 'tcp_open': In file included from os_d-g.c:58: tcp_unix.c:73: incompatible type in assignment Fatal error in /usr/lib/gcc/cc1 Exit status 041 I went into tcp_unix and found this at line 73+: if ((sin.sin_addr.s_addr = inet_addr (hostname)) != -1) { sin.sin_family = AF_INET; /* family is always Internet */ strcpy (hostname,host); /* hostname is user's argument */ I seem to remember something about the sin.sin_addr.s_addr from before when I first tried to get pine. Does anyone know what the problem might be? It looks like this failure caused a complete installation failure as well. Any help would be greatly apprciated. TIA Dion *----------------------------------------------* | Dion Vansevenant stu2@faxon.ca | | Systems Administrator | | Faxon/SMS Canada Ltd. (519) 472-1006 voice | | P.O. Box 2382 (519) 472-1072 fax | | London, ON | | Canada N6A 5A7 | *----------------------------------------------* If you don't change your direction - you're bound to end up where you're headed. - Chinese Proverb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 13:55:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21486; Sun, 28 Aug 94 13:55:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06402; Sun, 28 Aug 94 13:42:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06395; Sun, 28 Aug 94 13:42:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeqkW-000008C; Sun, 28 Aug 94 13:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nishri@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Alex Nishri) Subject: Re: ...filters [FAQ] Message-Id: References: <33bk6r$b6m@xcalibur.IntNet.net> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 20:11:11 GMT In article , Blain Nelson wrote: >Dave King writes: > > >>So, although pine3.90 will not have filtering capability for incoming >>mail (it's not appropriate anyway).... > >This may seem like a silly question, but what's so darn inappropriate >about having a useful mail-handling feature like filtering mail in a >mail-handling application? Is this an actual impropriety or just another >custom thing like not having word-wrap in unix editors? > >Blain > >>Dave I actually read your question rather differently then did some of the other people who replied. I assumed you were talking about it from a user interface point of view. As far as the user is concerned pine is their tool set for dealing with mail. Specifying dynamic message selectiona and action (e.g. like pine3.90 select & apply commands) or automatic message selection and action (e.g. from now on select all messages meeting the following criteria and apply the following commands ...) naturally fall into the tool the user sees. So I should be able to say, from now on all messages from "n9348795@gonzo.cc.wwu.edu" should be filed in my "Blain" folder. I think the other people who replied were telling you where the code to implement this would reside most naturally in a client-server environment. Of course, as a user of pine I don't care which of the server (post office) or client (pine) implements a particular action; all I care about is how easy it is for me to figure out how to use a feature. I think it would be simplier for users if mail filtering was indeed done in the pine user interface; For someone who uses PC-Pine, has never seen UNIX, and has no login access to the post office telling them to use "filter" from the elm distribution is like telling them to dance on the moon. Alex From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 14:02:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21611; Sun, 28 Aug 94 14:02:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08003; Sun, 28 Aug 94 13:49:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07997; Sun, 28 Aug 94 13:49:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeque-00000MC; Sun, 28 Aug 94 13:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Annette Subject: Bug in Pine 3.90? Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 18:40:44 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm using Pine 3.90 under Linux. I have set "received" as my default read-message-folder and enabled the auto-save-read-msg feature. But when I quit Pine, the read messages are still residing in INBOX and marked as unread. Anybody has the same problem? Regards. Annette "" ___ _ _ ____________________m_OO_m_________________ / _ \ _ _ _ _ ___| |_| |_ ___ I'm nobody, who are you? | _ | ' \| ' \/ -_) _| _/ -_) Are you nobody too? |_| |_|_||_|_||_\___|\__|\__\___| Then there's a pair of us. Don't tell - they'd banish us, you know. Faculty of Arts How dreary to be somebody, The Chinese University of How public - like a frog - Hong Kong To tell your name the livelong June Email: annette@cuhk.hk To an admiring bog. - Emily Dickinson ____________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 14:38:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22293; Sun, 28 Aug 94 14:38:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07312; Sun, 28 Aug 94 14:19:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07306; Sun, 28 Aug 94 14:19:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qerOU-000008C; Sun, 28 Aug 94 14:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: khan@xraylith.wisc.edu (Mumit Khan) Subject: probs reading MH folder (and can I write in MH format? (+more??)) Date: 28 Aug 1994 16:35:17 GMT Message-Id: <33qec5$csd@news.doit.wisc.edu> Pine team, Congratulations on a job well done (and for a release within a week of projected date! -- must be new record for free software). Now that I'm done with the praise bit, here come the peeves :-) [btw, the new-users love 3.90 even more than 3.89, esp with the great new setup config screen] One of my major motivation for checking out Pine was it's ability to read MH folders via IMAPD, bug I've been getting some weird results. Platform: (all using pre-compiled binaries from ftp.cac....) client: Pine 3.90 SPARC 10/41 SunOS4.1.3 IMAP server: IMAP 3.4 SPARC LX Solaris2.2 (running under inetd) MH version: 6.8 #4 Problem: When I `go-to-folder' using {mailhome}#mh/archive/simulation (which happens to have 1441 articles (I use qt to index articles, so I never bothered to sub-folder these archives), I get the same article/msg repeated many many times; eg., the 1st 50 message I get are really repeats of msg #1, 2nd 50 messages repeats of msg#2, etc. Am I the only one seeing this? I'll experiment some more today with smaller folders to see if it's the size of the folders. Q1. MH Folder view: Can I configure Pine client to see ALL my MH folders (sort of like Xmh) without having to manually specify each of my hundreds of folders in .pinerc? Q2. Writing MH folders: Can I save messages to my mailhome via IMAPD in MH format? (it probably already works -- after my MH folder reading problem, I just didn't dare try this) Q3. PC-Pine setup: Here we use a PC Mail program bundled with DEC PATHWORKS that uses MH on our DEC/Ultrix server, which has a very useful opening dialog asking for HOST/USER/PASSWORD right up front (great for student labs and shared machines). Any way of setting up PC-Pine so that when it starts up, it'l do something similar? thanks in advance mumit %-----------------------------------------------------------------% Mumit Khan khan@xraylith.wisc.edu Center for X-ray Lithography Tel: 608-877-2418/2400 University of Wisconsin-Madison FAX: 608-877-2401 %-----------------------------------------------------------------% From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 14:55:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22591; Sun, 28 Aug 94 14:55:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09361; Sun, 28 Aug 94 14:42:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09355; Sun, 28 Aug 94 14:42:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeri5-000008C; Sun, 28 Aug 94 14:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brandon@cc.usu.edu (Brandon Gillespie) Subject: .pine-debug[12] files ... WHY?? Message-Id: <1994Aug28.135835.25858@cc.usu.edu> Date: 28 Aug 94 13:58:35 MDT I did a quick topic search of debug, and didn't find anything, so I appologize if this is in a FAQ or something. Why does pine always create .pine-debug1 and .pine-debug2???? I really don't want these files, i know they aren't exactly big, but its annoying to see them around...(like I don't have enough clutter files as it is). -- /\ Brandon Gillespie me /\ () An Interactive RFC Index: http://www.usu.edu/~brandon/RFC/ () \/ "Luke, at that speed do you think you'll be able to pull out in time?" \/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 15:03:38 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22781; Sun, 28 Aug 94 15:03:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08155; Sun, 28 Aug 94 14:49:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08147; Sun, 28 Aug 94 14:49:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeroj-00000MC; Sun, 28 Aug 94 14:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ruebeck@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Christophe B Ruebeck) Subject: Sending a pre-typed file in PINE Date: 28 Aug 1994 17:15:57 -0400 Message-Id: <33quqd$bkd@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> References: <33qec5$csd@news.doit.wisc.edu> I'm a new PINE user and more accustomed to VMS MAIL. So I'm used to typing Mail> send filename when I wnat to send some text file. How can I do this in PINE? I've got a posting that I saved, and now want to include it in my message text. Thanks for the help - Chris From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 15:05:16 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22812; Sun, 28 Aug 94 15:05:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09625; Sun, 28 Aug 94 14:52:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09619; Sun, 28 Aug 94 14:52:07 -0700 Received: from elvis.med.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa19341; 28 Aug 94 17:52 EDT Received: by elvis.med.Virginia.EDU (5.65c/1.34) id AA17113; Sun, 28 Aug 1994 17:52:05 -0400 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 17:52:05 -0400 From: "Steven D. Majewski" Message-Id: <199408282152.AA17113@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine-bin.a32 - does binary use termcap or curses lib ? Is the RS6000/AIX binary of pine 3.90 ( pine-bin.a32 ) now built with -lcurses or -ltermcap ? I had to rebuild 3.89 with termcap to eliminate the screen locking problem. Has the default changed on 3.90 ? - Steve Majewski (804-982-0831) - UVA Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 15:15:57 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23028; Sun, 28 Aug 94 15:15:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08487; Sun, 28 Aug 94 15:01:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ousrvr.oulu.fi by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08465; Sun, 28 Aug 94 15:01:01 -0700 Received: from paju.oulu.fi by oulu.fi (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19478; Mon, 29 Aug 94 01:00:59 +0300 Received: by paju.oulu.fi (931110.SGI/930416.SGI.AUTO) for @ousrvr.oulu.fi:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA00390; Mon, 29 Aug 94 01:00:59 +0300 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 01:00:56 -12000 From: Marko Hotti To: Pine-Info Mailing List Subject: Message priority... Message-Id: X-Mailer: PINE 3.90 (August 28th 1994) X-Talk: mhotti@paju.oulu.fi X-Facsimile: FIN 981-331 008 X-Ircnick: Artisti X-Telephone: FIN 981-530 4878 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I defined a new header (Priority:) and tried sending a message to myself with message priority set to Urgent. However, in the message list there's nothing to indicate the message priority. I know that this is not a feature for every-day use but very handy anyway (it is found in Elm). Are you planning on adding that to the source code in the future? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Marko Hotti University of Oulu Faculty of Medicine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 15:28:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23308; Sun, 28 Aug 94 15:28:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10184; Sun, 28 Aug 94 15:14:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10178; Sun, 28 Aug 94 15:14:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qesE8-00000MC; Sun, 28 Aug 94 14:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calfeld@eratosth (Chris Alfeld) Subject: pipeing with a .foward file. Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 21:17:42 GMT Message-Id: <1994Aug28.211742.25412@math.utah.edu> This is kind of off the subject of pine but it still deals with mail and I figures it's more interesting then all the unsubscribe messages this group gets. :) In any case how do I use a .forward file to pipe my mail to a process? For those of you who are going to tell me to look in the man pages I have. There is no .forward.5 or forward.5 on my system. I've also looked at mail and sendmail. Thanks, -- -Chris (calfeld@math.utah.edu calfeld@east.east-slc.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 16:01:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23837; Sun, 28 Aug 94 16:01:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11024; Sun, 28 Aug 94 15:51:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from eryx.syr.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10995; Sun, 28 Aug 94 15:50:58 -0700 Received: by eryx.syr.edu (4.1/1.0-6/5/90) id AA24643; Sun, 28 Aug 94 18:50:17 EDT Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 18:50:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Virtual Dave To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: A few features I din't see (are they there) In-Reply-To: <33qec5$csd@news.doit.wisc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 1. The ability to "pop" to top and bottom of message in compose, read and pico? also 2. Is there a new version of IMAPD? 3. Are there any feature differences in Pico? ........................................................... : "Virtual" Dave Lankes rdlankes@ericir.syr.edu : : AskERIC Researcher "This is not your father's Internet" : : School of Information Studies Syracuse University : ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 16:09:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24013; Sun, 28 Aug 94 16:09:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09991; Sun, 28 Aug 94 15:59:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09983; Sun, 28 Aug 94 15:59:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qesv6-000008C; Sun, 28 Aug 94 15:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: elias@umich.edu (Elias Baumgarten) Subject: Re: Pine 3.90--Need wattcp.cfg file? Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 18:28:10 Message-Id: References: I unzipped the version for the PC (as opposed to Sun, Windows, etc.). The file on setup REFERS to the need for a watcp.cfg file which it implies comes with the "distribution" of the program. My question is: where do I get this file and the documentation needed to set it up? Did anyone else find a need for this? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 16:15:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24143; Sun, 28 Aug 94 16:15:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10195; Sun, 28 Aug 94 16:06:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mozart.csc.wsu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10188; Sun, 28 Aug 94 16:06:05 -0700 Received: (from dickinso@localhost) by mozart.csc.wsu.edu (8.6.9/WSUit-1.1) id QAA08909; Sun, 28 Aug 1994 16:05:56 -0700 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 16:05:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Diane Dickinson To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Mailcap sample file Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks to the Pine team for all the nice enhancements. Just one minor detail - there is some mention of a sample mailcap file. I can't seem to find this, am I just blind? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 16:34:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24471; Sun, 28 Aug 94 16:34:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10720; Sun, 28 Aug 94 16:24:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10711; Sun, 28 Aug 94 16:24:40 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA04950; Mon, 29 Aug 94 07:25:54 +0800 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 07:25:53 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Message priority... To: Marko Hotti Cc: Pine-Info Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 29 Aug 1994, Marko Hotti wrote: > I defined a new header (Priority:) and tried sending a message to myself > with message priority set to Urgent. However, in the message list there's > nothing to indicate the message priority. I know that this is not a > feature for every-day use but very handy anyway (it is found in Elm). > Are you planning on adding that to the source code in the future? Not only is it not a feature for every-day use....I could not find it in the standards. If it is not in the standards then I hope they don't plan on adding support for it. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 17:14:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25273; Sun, 28 Aug 94 17:14:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11812; Sun, 28 Aug 94 17:01:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11799; Sun, 28 Aug 94 17:01:05 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA05173; Mon, 29 Aug 94 07:51:27 +0800 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 07:51:24 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Mailcap sample file To: Diane Dickinson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-2118967806-1177126014-778117884:#4812" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---2118967806-1177126014-778117884:#4812 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 28 Aug 1994, Diane Dickinson wrote: > > Thanks to the Pine team for all the nice enhancements. Just one minor > detail - there is some mention of a sample mailcap file. I can't seem to > find this, am I just blind? > > With the pine distribution they should have, IMHO, included as part of the documentation the RFC that deals with mailcap. I've included that RFC as an attachment. Ed Edward M. 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AA25470; Sun, 28 Aug 94 17:23:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12937; Sun, 28 Aug 94 17:13:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12930; Sun, 28 Aug 94 17:13:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qeu16-000008C; Sun, 28 Aug 94 16:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: khan@xraylith.wisc.edu (Mumit Khan) Subject: Re: A few features I din't see (are they there) Date: 28 Aug 1994 23:48:32 GMT Message-Id: <33r7og$ou2@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <33qec5$csd@news.doit.wisc.edu> In article , Virtual Dave wrote: >1. The ability to "pop" to top and bottom of message in compose, read and >pico? ^W (whereis) ==> ^Y (top) && ^V (bottom). Was this feature in 3.89 as well? >2. Is there a new version of IMAPD? Yes; the pine-3.90 dist now has imap-3.4. mumit From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 18:49:05 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27124; Sun, 28 Aug 94 18:49:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15274; Sun, 28 Aug 94 18:38:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from faxon.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15267; Sun, 28 Aug 94 18:38:47 -0700 Received: by faxon.ca (5.4R2.01/192.139.186.253) id AA22727; Sun, 28 Aug 1994 21:25:56 -0400 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 21:18:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Dion Vansevenant Subject: Re: Setting 'vacation' mode To: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <1994Aug28.162256.21528@pshrink.chi.il.us> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 28 Aug 1994 veck@pshrink.chi.il.us wrote: > stu2@faxon.ca (Dion Vansevenant) publicly declared: > > > >Our users here do not have access to the shell. Does anyone know how they > >could activate the 'vacation' setting in UNIX to indicate to people that > >they are on vacation? > > > >Our in-house mailing system does it and it would be nice if they could > >set it at the UNIX level as well. > > > >For the record we are using DG/UX 5.4.2 and Pine 3.86. TIA > > I'm afraid I don't understand your question. Your users don't have > access to the shell, but you want to start 'vacation' at the Unix level? > What are you calling "the Unix level" if it's not a shell prompt? Sorry, for us "the Unix level" is just that, Unix. Our system runs PI/Open and Blacksmith, an operating system emulator and delvelopment system, respectively. The users login and are immediately sent to the PI/Open level. This is kind of like having DOS and Windows on your hard drive and having you system boot to Windows immediately. At any rate, our users do not see the Unix prompts, ever. The closest they get is Pine. Running Pine from PI/Open is akin to running a DOS session from Windows. Actually, you've just gotten me thinking....Hmm. Give me a day or two. Dion *----------------------------------------------* | Dion Vansevenant stu2@faxon.ca | | Systems Administrator | | Faxon/SMS Canada Ltd. (519) 472-1006 voice | | P.O. Box 2382 (519) 472-1072 fax | | London, ON | | Canada N6A 5A7 | *----------------------------------------------* If you don't change your direction - you're bound to end up where you're headed. - Chinese Proverb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 20:02:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28247; Sun, 28 Aug 94 20:02:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16410; Sun, 28 Aug 94 19:52:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from vnet.ibm.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16404; Sun, 28 Aug 94 19:52:28 -0700 Received: from RTP by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0227; Sun, 28 Aug 94 22:52:20 EDT Received: by RTP (XAGENTA 3.0) id 3317; Sun, 28 Aug 1994 22:51:57 -0400 Received: by axis.raleigh.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA20087; Sun, 28 Aug 1994 22:52:24 -0400 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 22:52:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Sean Allen" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pipeing with a .foward file. In-Reply-To: <1994Aug28.211742.25412@math.utah.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Simply put the pipe char (|) at the top of the file followed by the name of the command to filter the mail through. e.g. | /usr/local/bin/filter On Sun, 28 Aug 1994, Chris Alfeld wrote: > This is kind of off the subject of pine but it still > deals with mail and I figures it's more interesting then all the > unsubscribe messages this group gets. :) > > In any case how do I use a .forward file to pipe my mail to a > process? > > For those of you who are going to tell me to look in the man pages > I have. There is no .forward.5 or forward.5 on my system. I've > also looked at mail and sendmail. > > Thanks, > > -- > -Chris (calfeld@math.utah.edu calfeld@east.east-slc.edu) Sean Allen AIX/Database Administration (919)543-6021 T/L 441 IBM Personal Computer Company Internal Zip: D318/B205 Research Triangle Park, NC VNET: RTP(SALLEN) IBM IP: sallen@axis.raleigh.ibm.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 21:56:08 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00297; Sun, 28 Aug 94 21:56:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20253; Sun, 28 Aug 94 21:47:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from eng.infinet.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20245; Sun, 28 Aug 94 21:47:51 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 00:47:43 -400 (EDT) From: "Steven E. Frazier" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: File attachments - tiff Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it possible to attach a tiff file like a fax and then be able to view it via pine? thanks in advance. Steve From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 22:01:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00447; Sun, 28 Aug 94 22:01:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20432; Sun, 28 Aug 94 21:54:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from eng.infinet.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20423; Sun, 28 Aug 94 21:54:15 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by eng.futurenet.com id aa08428; 28 Aug 94 23:01 EDT Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16410; Sun, 28 Aug 94 19:52:30 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from vnet.ibm.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16404; Sun, 28 Aug 94 19:52:28 -0700 Received: from RTP by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0227; Sun, 28 Aug 94 22:52:20 EDT Received: by RTP (XAGENTA 3.0) id 3317; Sun, 28 Aug 1994 22:51:57 -0400 Received: by axis.raleigh.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA20087; Sun, 28 Aug 1994 22:52:24 -0400 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 22:52:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Sean Allen To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pipeing with a .foward file. In-Reply-To: <1994Aug28.211742.25412@math.utah.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 00:54:06 -400 (EDT) Resent-From: "Steven E. Frazier" Resent-To: "Steven E. Frazier" Resent-Message-Id: Simply put the pipe char (|) at the top of the file followed by the name of the command to filter the mail through. e.g. | /usr/local/bin/filter On Sun, 28 Aug 1994, Chris Alfeld wrote: > This is kind of off the subject of pine but it still > deals with mail and I figures it's more interesting then all the > unsubscribe messages this group gets. :) > > In any case how do I use a .forward file to pipe my mail to a > process? > > For those of you who are going to tell me to look in the man pages > I have. There is no .forward.5 or forward.5 on my system. I've > also looked at mail and sendmail. > > Thanks, > > -- > -Chris (calfeld@math.utah.edu calfeld@east.east-slc.edu) Sean Allen AIX/Database Administration (919)543-6021 T/L 441 IBM Personal Computer Company Internal Zip: D318/B205 Research Triangle Park, NC VNET: RTP(SALLEN) IBM IP: sallen@axis.raleigh.ibm.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 28 22:31:53 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01263; Sun, 28 Aug 94 22:31:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21266; Sun, 28 Aug 94 22:22:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21260; Sun, 28 Aug 94 22:22:31 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA09239; Mon, 29 Aug 94 13:21:20 +0800 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 13:21:19 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: pipeing with a .foward file. To: Sean Allen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 28 Aug 1994, Sean Allen wrote: > > Simply put the pipe char (|) at the top of the file followed by > the name of the command to filter the mail through. e.g. > > | /usr/local/bin/filter Be aware that some systems require this to be enclosed in quotes: i.e. "|/usr/local/bin/filter" Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 00:22:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03295; Mon, 29 Aug 94 00:22:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24762; Mon, 29 Aug 94 00:15:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24756; Mon, 29 Aug 94 00:15:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qf0dv-00000PC; Sun, 28 Aug 94 23:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gmartz@nwcl.nwcl.net (Greg Martz) Subject: Pine 3.9 and newsgroups Date: 29 Aug 1994 00:58:52 GMT Message-Id: <33rbsc$43n@news.halcyon.com> Am now using Pine 3.90, and found something in the newsgroup section. It seems, that when I go through all the newsgroups (with tab) and read all the messages, exit pine, go back later, all the news items I had already read, are there again. Anyway I can get it so it will only have the ones I haven't read?? -- Greg Martz (gmartz@nwcl.net)|NorthWest CommLink - Your Gateway to the Internet Voice [+1 206 336 0103] |(shell, menu, SLIP, PPP) in Skagit County, WA info@nwcl.net for more info |Mt. Vernon's *first* Internet Provider From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 00:25:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03342; Mon, 29 Aug 94 00:25:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25089; Mon, 29 Aug 94 00:15:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25080; Mon, 29 Aug 94 00:15:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qf0im-00000VC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 00:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ken Weaverling Subject: Re: Compiling on DG/UX Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 21:25:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 28 Aug 1994, Dion Vansevenant wrote: > Could some kind soul please help me? I was compiling pine 3.90 on our > system and received the following error during c-client compilation: > [snip] > I went into tcp_unix and found this at line 73+: > > if ((sin.sin_addr.s_addr = inet_addr (hostname)) != -1) { > sin.sin_family = AF_INET; /* family is always Internet */ > strcpy (hostname,host); /* hostname is user's argument */ You are NOT yet upgraded to DG/UX 5.4R3.00, are you? The prototype for that function was not "standard" in earlier releases. They fixed it in R3.00. You'll have to correct the prototype in the header file, or kludge on into the os header file just to get you by until you upgrade. BTW, I have DG/UX 5.4R3.00 and just did a "build d-g" and it complied perfectly. In fact, am using it now to post! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 00:29:21 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03397; Mon, 29 Aug 94 00:29:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25128; Mon, 29 Aug 94 00:24:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25121; Mon, 29 Aug 94 00:24:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qf0mX-00000ZC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 00:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ken Weaverling Subject: Suggestion, GOTO function Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 21:33:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Scenario: Am reading a news group. I want to goto another one. Press "G" to goto another folder/newsgroup. The "collection" I am in is my first mail collection. I then have to hit ^N to skip down to news collection before typing in the new group name. If it could "stick" to your current collection when using "G", it'd be helpful. Oh, btw, this release is AWESOME!!!! Worth the wait! And thanks for the d-g support. Complied flawlessly, runs perfectly (so far, at least!) -- Ken Weaverling weave@dtcc.edu |*| Wilmington: +1 302 573-5460 Manager of Computer Services |*| Stanton: +1 302 454-3978 Stanton/Wilmington Campuses of |*| WHOIS: KJW Delaware Technical & Community College |*| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 00:41:35 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03729; Mon, 29 Aug 94 00:41:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25800; Mon, 29 Aug 94 00:36:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25793; Mon, 29 Aug 94 00:36:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qf0yT-00000PC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 00:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ken Weaverling Subject: Reproducable bug, bad msgno in mail_fetchheader Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 21:50:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Got one! Bug in Pine detected: "Bad msgno in mail_fetchheader". Exiting pine. ABORT instruction Do the following. Enter a folder or a newsgroup. Delete everything, then X it so the folder is now empty (or excludes everything). Press ? for help, it asks if you want to include current message, press Y and the above error happens. Obviously because there is no message to include, but surely a more graceful way of handling it must be possible! :-) Anyway, a nitpick. I am definitely a happy camper. Been waiting months for two pieces of software to be released and I get them both in the same weekend, Pine 3.90 *AND* Road Rash for my 3DO. I just can't decide which to play with now! -- Ken Weaverling weave@dtcc.edu |*| Wilmington: +1 302 573-5460 Manager of Computer Services |*| Stanton: +1 302 454-3978 Stanton/Wilmington Campuses of |*| WHOIS: KJW Delaware Technical & Community College |*| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 00:48:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03833; Mon, 29 Aug 94 00:48:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25919; Mon, 29 Aug 94 00:43:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25911; Mon, 29 Aug 94 00:43:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qf13j-00001HC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 00:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: holee@newstand.syr.edu (Vorpal Bunny(Bored)) Subject: Quoting with .sig?? How? Date: 29 Aug 1994 01:59:17 GMT Message-Id: <33rfdl$rkj@newstand.syr.edu> Is there a way to quote a letter using PINE and have your .sig come out at the bottom of the letter, instead of the top? -- /--------------------------------------------------------------\ \\ \\ |(C) This Post/Letter is Copyrighted 1994, And it's MINE!MINE! | \\-\\ |Now I'm Going Back to Bed... *Keeper of the Forbush Man Flame*| ( X-X) YAWN \--------------------------------------------------------------/ {_^_} _/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 01:26:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04873; Mon, 29 Aug 94 01:26:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27269; Mon, 29 Aug 94 01:20:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27263; Mon, 29 Aug 94 01:20:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qf1Zf-00000PC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 00:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Pine 3.90--Need wattcp.cfg file? Date: 29 Aug 94 02:24:08 GMT Message-Id: References: elias@umich.edu (Elias Baumgarten) writes: >I unzipped the version for the PC (as opposed to Sun, Windows, etc.). The >file on setup REFERS to the need for a watcp.cfg file which it implies comes >with the "distribution" of the program. My question is: where do I get this >file and the documentation needed to set it up? >Did anyone else find a need for this? Did you read the readme file that tells you to use config.tel if you are using ncsa telnet with packet drivers? -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 01:26:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04881; Mon, 29 Aug 94 01:26:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27172; Mon, 29 Aug 94 01:20:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27166; Mon, 29 Aug 94 01:20:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qf1hl-00000VC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 01:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: [Q] How to unselect? Date: 29 Aug 94 02:29:06 GMT Message-Id: Sunos 4.1.3. I am really enjoying the new features. Just started playing with select and apply. After selecting a bunch of messages and saving them to a new folder, I wanted to select a different bunch of messages and save them to a pre-existing folder. I could not figure out how to unselect the first group without expunging. Select and zoom might be the neatest feature except for the implicit editor, but if I cannot figure how to unselect articles, this will be less useful than it might be. Pointers appreciated. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 01:42:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05458; Mon, 29 Aug 94 01:42:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27513; Mon, 29 Aug 94 01:37:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27507; Mon, 29 Aug 94 01:37:23 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA11547; Mon, 29 Aug 94 16:38:27 +0800 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 16:38:27 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Quoting with .sig?? How? To: Vorpal Bunny Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <33rfdl$rkj@newstand.syr.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 29 Aug 1994, Vorpal Bunny wrote: > Is there a way to quote a letter using PINE and have > your .sig come out at the bottom of the letter, instead of > the top? Go to the configuration menu and select: [X] signature-at-bottom Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 01:59:54 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05801; Mon, 29 Aug 94 01:59:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27762; Mon, 29 Aug 94 01:56:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27750; Mon, 29 Aug 94 01:56:31 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA11719; Mon, 29 Aug 94 16:57:47 +0800 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 16:57:46 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: [Q] How to unselect? To: "R. Stewart Ellis" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 29 Aug 1994, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > I am really enjoying the new features. Just started playing with select and > apply. After selecting a bunch of messages and saving them to a new folder, > I wanted to select a different bunch of messages and save them to a > pre-existing folder. I could not figure out how to unselect the first group > without expunging. Select and zoom might be the neatest feature except for > the implicit editor, but if I cannot figure how to unselect articles, this > will be less useful than it might be. > > Pointers appreciated. Well, after you have saved them...or did whatever you want to them all you have to do is ";" (Select) again and you will be given the option to unselect. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 02:37:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06450; Mon, 29 Aug 94 02:37:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28009; Mon, 29 Aug 94 02:32:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pobox.csc.fi by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28003; Mon, 29 Aug 94 02:32:35 -0700 Received: from tellus.csc.fi (tellus.csc.fi [128.214.46.33]) by pobox.csc.fi (8.6.9/8.6.9+CSC-2.0) with SMTP id MAA12405; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 12:32:31 +0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from localhost.csc.fi by tellus.csc.fi (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02484; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:32:30 +0300 Message-Id: <9408290932.AA02484@tellus.csc.fi> To: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Q] How to unselect? In-Reply-To: Your message of "29 Aug 1994 02:29:06 GMT." X-Mailer: exmh version 1.5beta 8/10/94 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 12:32:29 +0300 From: Pekka Kytolaakso Your message dated: 29 Aug 1994 02:29:06 GMT > I am really enjoying the new features. Just started playing with select and > apply. After selecting a bunch of messages and saving them to a new folder, > I wanted to select a different bunch of messages and save them to a > pre-existing folder. I could not figure out how to unselect the first group > without expunging. Select and zoom might be the neatest feature except for > the implicit editor, but if I cannot figure how to unselect articles, this > will be less useful than it might be. > > Pointers appreciated. If you have anything selected the next select has the following options A unselect All B Broaden selctn ^C Cancel C [unselect Cur] N Narrow selctn Now 'A'/'C' clears selection(s) and 'B'/'N' modify the current list of selected messages by adding/removing the specified messages. Pekka Kytölaakso --------------------------------------------------------------- Pekka.Kytolaakso@funet.fi FUNET Finnish University and Reseach Network netmgr@tellus.csc.fi PL 405 FIN-02101 Espoo FINLAND Phone: +358 0 4572246 Telefax: + 358 0 4572302 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 03:25:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07530; Mon, 29 Aug 94 03:25:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28566; Mon, 29 Aug 94 03:20:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28560; Mon, 29 Aug 94 03:20:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qf3ZV-00000PC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 03:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Compiling on DG/UX Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 18:40:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hi - Could you check your system include files, specifically, arpa/inet.h and netinet/in.h, to see the prototype of inet_addr() and the definition of the s_addr member of the in_addr struct? On every Unix system that I've seen, they are both unsigned long. One or the other may be u_long which is the same thing. -- Mark -- On Sun, 28 Aug 1994, Dion Vansevenant wrote: > > > Could some kind soul please help me? I was compiling pine 3.90 on our > system and received the following error during c-client compilation: > > tcp_unix.c: In function 'tcp_open': > In file included from os_d-g.c:58: > tcp_unix.c:73: incompatible type in assignment > Fatal error in /usr/lib/gcc/cc1 > Exit status 041 > > I went into tcp_unix and found this at line 73+: > > if ((sin.sin_addr.s_addr = inet_addr (hostname)) != -1) { > sin.sin_family = AF_INET; /* family is always Internet */ > strcpy (hostname,host); /* hostname is user's argument */ > > I seem to remember something about the sin.sin_addr.s_addr from before > when I first tried to get pine. Does anyone know what the problem might > be? It looks like this failure caused a complete installation failure as > well. Any help would be greatly apprciated. TIA > > > > Dion > > *----------------------------------------------* > | Dion Vansevenant stu2@faxon.ca | > | Systems Administrator | > | Faxon/SMS Canada Ltd. (519) 472-1006 voice | > | P.O. Box 2382 (519) 472-1072 fax | > | London, ON | > | Canada N6A 5A7 | > *----------------------------------------------* > > If you don't change your direction - you're bound to end up where you're headed. > - Chinese Proverb > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 03:42:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07939; Mon, 29 Aug 94 03:42:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28937; Mon, 29 Aug 94 03:35:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28931; Mon, 29 Aug 94 03:35:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qf3gj-00000QC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 03:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ken Weaverling Subject: Re: Reproducable bug, bad msgno in mail_fetchheader Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 06:02:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > > Press ? for help, it asks if you want to include current message, press Y > > and the above error happens. > > Hmmm. I just deleted everything in comp.mail.pine (after reading ALL of > the messages in detail, of course :-), eXcluded them, pressed ? for Help > and was NOT prompted for including any message; rather it went to the help Gessh, my fault. Forgot a minor step! Delete all, X, ?, then press "B" to report a bug. *NOW* it asks if you want to include the current message (in the bug report). Say "Y" and it vomits. Sorry :-( -- Ken Weaverling weave@dtcc.edu |*| Wilmington: +1 302 573-5460 Manager of Computer Services |*| Stanton: +1 302 454-3978 Stanton/Wilmington Campuses of |*| WHOIS: KJW Delaware Technical & Community College |*| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 03:49:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08053; Mon, 29 Aug 94 03:49:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28848; Mon, 29 Aug 94 03:43:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28842; Mon, 29 Aug 94 03:43:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qf3tK-00000dC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 03:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "John N. Underwood" Subject: Re: Reproducable bug, bad msgno in mail_fetchheader Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 00:15:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 28 Aug 1994, Ken Weaverling wrote: > Bug in Pine detected: "Bad msgno in mail_fetchheader". > Exiting pine. > ABORT instruction > > Do the following. Enter a folder or a newsgroup. Delete everything, then > X it so the folder is now empty (or excludes everything). > > Press ? for help, it asks if you want to include current message, press Y > and the above error happens. Hmmm. I just deleted everything in comp.mail.pine (after reading ALL of the messages in detail, of course :-), eXcluded them, pressed ? for Help and was NOT prompted for including any message; rather it went to the help screen. System: SunOS 4.1.1 and Pine 3.90 (which also seems to run just fine on SunOS 5.2/Solaris 2.2 - I always thought that was a little odd :-). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- John N. Underwood junderw@cs.clemson.edu - http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~junderw/junderw.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Did you ever have the feeling that when you were finally holding all the right cards everyone else was playing chess? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 04:04:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08803; Mon, 29 Aug 94 04:04:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29191; Mon, 29 Aug 94 03:58:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29181; Mon, 29 Aug 94 03:58:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qf44G-00000QC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 03:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kingshu@eehpx40 (king shu) Subject: Re: Pine 3.9 and newsgroups Date: 29 Aug 1994 04:50:46 GMT Message-Id: <33rpf6$b1p@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <33rbsc$43n@news.halcyon.com> You have to delete them just as what you do on your email. In article <33rbsc$43n@news.halcyon.com> gmartz@nwcl.nwcl.net (Greg Martz) writes: > Am now using Pine 3.90, and found something in the newsgroup section. >It seems, that when I go through all the newsgroups (with tab) and read >all the messages, exit pine, go back later, all the news items I had >already read, are there again. Anyway I can get it so it will only have >the ones I haven't read?? > >-- >Greg Martz (gmartz@nwcl.net)|NorthWest CommLink - Your Gateway to the Internet >Voice [+1 206 336 0103] |(shell, menu, SLIP, PPP) in Skagit County, WA >info@nwcl.net for more info |Mt. Vernon's *first* Internet Provider From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 04:11:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09121; Mon, 29 Aug 94 04:11:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29316; Mon, 29 Aug 94 04:06:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29304; Mon, 29 Aug 94 04:05:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qf4Co-00000PC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 03:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nelson CHIN Subject: how do i yank in read news? Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 23:53:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII how do i yank in all read articles in a certain newsgroup? nelson +lnM Nelson Chin 102 Brook Street Quincy MA 02170 1508 024 USA +kDg CIIP: nchin+AEA-hnt.com CICC: cyl+AEA-ifcss.org PH:+-1 617 472 2851 +n40 PRODIGY: GWBV10E+AEA-prodigy.com BU: butta1+AEA-bu.edu UTF-7 code From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 04:46:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09795; Mon, 29 Aug 94 04:46:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29469; Mon, 29 Aug 94 04:19:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from nova.gmi.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29463; Mon, 29 Aug 94 04:19:23 -0700 Received: by nova.gmi.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-DNI) id AA01618; Mon, 29 Aug 94 07:23:04 EDT Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 07:23:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "R. Stewart Ellis" X-Sender: ellis@nova To: Ed Greshko , netmgr@tellus.csc.fi Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Q] How to unselect? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks to both of you. R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 05:13:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10442; Mon, 29 Aug 94 05:13:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00430; Mon, 29 Aug 94 05:06:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00424; Mon, 29 Aug 94 05:06:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qf5Dd-00000VC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 04:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: myhsu@db39.ee.ncu.edu.tw (Ming-Yen Hsu) Subject: Re: Bug in Pine 3.90? Message-Id: Date: 29 Aug 1994 15:09:20 GMT References: Annette (annette@cuhk.hk) wrote: : I'm using Pine 3.90 under Linux. : I have set "received" as my default read-message-folder and enabled the : auto-save-read-msg feature. But when I quit Pine, the read messages are : still residing in INBOX and marked as unread. : Anybody has the same problem? I got the same problem too! With the message below... Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". Exiting pine. : Regards. : Annette -- Ming-Yen, Database Lab. ---------- giving you the best that I got -- Computer Science & Information Eng. voice: ........ 886-3-4227151x4504 National Central University, Taiwan fax: ........ 886-3-4227151x4508 -- MIME and BIG5 accepted ---------- email: .. myhsu@db39.ee.ncu.edu.tw From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 05:33:25 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10903; Mon, 29 Aug 94 05:33:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00410; Mon, 29 Aug 94 05:26:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00404; Mon, 29 Aug 94 05:26:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qf5VD-00000PC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 05:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: holee@newstand.syr.edu (Vorpal Bunny(Bored)) Subject: Re: Quoting with .sig?? How? Date: 29 Aug 1994 12:00:19 GMT Message-Id: <33sikj$a98@newstand.syr.edu> References: <33rfdl$rkj@newstand.syr.edu> Ed Greshko (egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com) wrote: : On 29 Aug 1994, Vorpal Bunny wrote: : > Is there a way to quote a letter using PINE and have : > your .sig come out at the bottom of the letter, instead of : > the top? : Go to the configuration menu and select: : [X] signature-at-bottom Thank you! No one around school was able to help me out on this.. -- /--------------------------------------------------------------\ \\ \\ |(C) This Post/Letter is Copyrighted 1994, And it's MINE!MINE! | \\-\\ |Now I'm Going Back to Bed... *Keeper of the Forbush Man Flame*| ( X-X) YAWN \--------------------------------------------------------------/ {_^_} _/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 06:04:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11420; Mon, 29 Aug 94 06:04:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01042; Mon, 29 Aug 94 05:57:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01036; Mon, 29 Aug 94 05:57:15 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA14165; Mon, 29 Aug 94 20:56:57 +0800 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 20:56:56 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Bug in Pine 3.90? To: Ming-Yen Hsu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, annette@cuhk.hk In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 29 Aug 1994, Ming-Yen Hsu wrote: > Annette (annette@cuhk.hk) wrote: > : I'm using Pine 3.90 under Linux. > > : I have set "received" as my default read-message-folder and enabled the > : auto-save-read-msg feature. But when I quit Pine, the read messages are > : still residing in INBOX and marked as unread. > > : Anybody has the same problem? > > I got the same problem too! With the message below... > > Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". > Exiting pine. Hummm...seems to work just fine under Solaris....does your .pine-debug file show anything? Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 06:16:07 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11697; Mon, 29 Aug 94 06:16:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01267; Mon, 29 Aug 94 06:11:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01261; Mon, 29 Aug 94 06:11:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qf6DH-000008C; Mon, 29 Aug 94 05:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: [Q] How to unselect? SOLVED Date: 29 Aug 94 11:35:34 GMT Message-Id: References: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) writes: >Sunos 4.1.3. >I am really enjoying the new features. Just started playing with select and >apply. After selecting a bunch of messages and saving them to a new folder, >I wanted to select a different bunch of messages and save them to a >pre-existing folder. I could not figure out how to unselect the first group >without expunging. Select and zoom might be the neatest feature except for >the implicit editor, but if I cannot figure how to unselect articles, this >will be less useful than it might be. >Pointers appreciated. I received two messages explaining this about the same time I figured it out. One of them also brought my attention to the broaden and narrow choices which I had not appreciated yet. In short, if you have selections and press ; again, then you are given several choices including unselect. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 06:25:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11899; Mon, 29 Aug 94 06:25:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01011; Mon, 29 Aug 94 06:20:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01005; Mon, 29 Aug 94 06:20:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qf6GD-00000QC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 05:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "W. Holemans" Subject: exact use of .mailcap Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 12:13:17 GMT I'm trying the new opions of pine 3.90. So far everything worked as expected but now i'm experimenting with the mailcap feature and this gives me some problems. Just as some other people on this list i didn't find the demo mailcap file in the distribution but i downloaded metamail 2.7 and used that one as an example. I copied it to ~/.mailcap and in the pine debug file i can find an entry that the mailcap is found and read (and also some messages about ignoring some lines). In the mailcap file there is an entry for application/postscript that refers to the lpr command. I mailed myself a postscript file as an attachement, but if i choose attachement / view, i get an error saying no viewer is found. What did i forget ? Is there a pinerc variable i have to set to enable mailcap support ? If some features of the mailcap file are ignored, which are supported and where is this documented ? I also didn't find information about multiple addressbooks at first sight, but maybe i should look closer. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Wim Holemans phone + 32 3 820 22 03 Network/System manager fax + 32 3 820 22 44 U.I.A. e-mail : wim.holemans@uia.ac.be ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 06:37:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12207; Mon, 29 Aug 94 06:37:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01546; Mon, 29 Aug 94 06:31:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [140.115.70.39] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01534; Mon, 29 Aug 94 06:31:24 -0700 Received: (from myhsu@localhost) by db39.ee.ncu.edu.tw (8.6.9/8.6.6) id VAA24445; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 21:34:01 +0800 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 21:34:00 +0800 (CST) From: Ming-Yen Hsu To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, annette@cuhk.hk Subject: Re: Bug in Pine 3.90? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Mon, 29 Aug 1994, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 29 Aug 1994, Ming-Yen Hsu wrote: > > I got the same problem too! With the message below... > > Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". > > Exiting pine. > > Hummm...seems to work just fine under Solaris....does your > .pine-debug file show anything? I didn't see this file in my home directory, where will it be? Another problem is the "auto-open-next-unread" never work for me, even there is really "unread" messages in folders. I have to check every folder one-by-one. :( -- Ming-Yen, Database Lab. ---------- giving you the best that I got -- Computer Science & Information Eng. voice: ........ 886-3-4227151x4504 National Central University, Taiwan fax: ........ 886-3-4227151x4508 -- MIME and BIG5 accepted ---------- email: .. myhsu@db39.ee.ncu.edu.tw From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 08:09:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14334; Mon, 29 Aug 94 08:09:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02955; Mon, 29 Aug 94 08:03:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from spark.NSPower.NS.Ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02937; Mon, 29 Aug 94 08:03:31 -0700 Received: by Spark.NSPower.NS.Ca (4.1/NSP-1.0) id AA28976; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:02:20 ADT Received: from nspc04.nspower.ns.ca(142.67.23.19) by spark via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma028974; Mon Aug 29 12:01:33 1994 Received: from ns371.nspcplan (ns371) by NSPC04 (PMDF V4.3-7 #6827) id <01HGHBHDXVWWEPEQTF@NSPC04>; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 12:00:23 AST Received: from ns3746.nspcplan by ns371.nspcplan (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08446; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:02:11 ADT Received: by ns3746.nspcplan (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16539; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:02:10 ADT Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 12:02:09 -0300 (ADT) From: "" Subject: Pine 3.90 used with xterm X-Sender: p95rc@ns3746 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I am running the pre-compiled Sun version of Pine 3.90 under SunOS 4.1.3 by starting an xterm: xterm -e pine The xterm opens with pine, everything seems to function, but when I exit pine, and the xterm closes, it leaves me with a core-dump... every time. I do not get a core-dump when starting any other application in the xterm (such as "xterm -e pico file"), nor do I get it when I start the xterm separately (ie without the "-e command". Should I ftp the source and compile my own version? or is this not at all a pine issue? Robert W. Creighton, P.Eng. E-Mail: robert.creighton@nspower.ns.ca Sr. System Design Engineer Voice: (902) 428-6877 Nova Scotia Power, Inc Fax: (902) 428-6118 P.O. Box 910 Halifax, NS, CANADA B3J 2W5 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 08:11:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14446; Mon, 29 Aug 94 08:11:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03064; Mon, 29 Aug 94 08:06:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03054; Mon, 29 Aug 94 08:06:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qf7ws-00000VC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 07:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eks@vki68.aar-vki.dk (Eigil Krogh Sorensen) Subject: libcrypt.a ? Date: 29 Aug 1994 14:25:12 GMT Message-Id: <33sr48$1e3@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> While compiling Pine 3.90 on a SCO system I've run into the problem there is no libcrypt.a on the SCO system. Can libcrypt.a be found anywhere via ftp ? Thank you in advance -- Eigil Krogh Sorensen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- VKI ! ! Water Quality Institute !Phone: !E-mail: Science Park Aarhus ! +45 86 20 20 00 or ! 10, Gustav Wieds Vej ! +45 86 20 20 11 local 2114 ! eks@aar-vki.dk DK-8000 Aarhus C !Fax: ! DENMARK. ! +45 86 19 75 11 ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 08:51:57 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16421; Mon, 29 Aug 94 08:51:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05120; Mon, 29 Aug 94 08:38:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from stein3.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05113; Mon, 29 Aug 94 08:38:32 -0700 Received: by stein3.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12685; Mon, 29 Aug 94 08:37:44 -0700 X-Sender: absweger@stein3.u.washington.edu Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 08:37:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew B. Sweger" To: Pine Information , Linux Mailing List Subject: Pico, Linux, binaries with garbage fix (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have made the same change in the Pico 2.4 source (from Pine 3.90 distribution) to stop that pesky character from appearing in the second line of the screen on Linux. The compressed binaries are available from the following location: Pine 3.89 distribution ftp://ftp.fammed.washington.edu/pub/pine3.89/pico.gz (52045) ftp://ftp.fammed.washington.edu/pub/pine3.89/pine.gz (355107) Pine 3.90 distribution ftp://ftp.fammed.washington.edu/pub/pine3.90/pico.gz (53969) ftp://ftp.fammed.washington.edu/pub/pine3.90/pine.gz (412651) The files will not be deleted until 9/16/94 at 3:00pm (moved back a week). BTW, ftp.fammed has an attitude sometimes (be patient). I'll try putting README's in the directories to explain exactly what I changed. Enjoy! -- / Andrew B. Sweger absweger@u.washington.edu // Computer Support Manager csg@fammed.washington.edu \\ Department of Family Medicine, HQ-30 (206) 543-2461 (Office) // UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON (206) 685-4337 (Voice Mail) / Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 685-0610 (FAX) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. [WARNING: Bandwidth Conservation Act of 1994 automatically implemented] ============================================================================== ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 13:55:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew B. Sweger To: Pine Information , Linux Mailing List Cc: Bryan Vold Subject: Pico, Linux, binaries with garbage fix I've applied Bryan Vold's fix to display.c (Pine-Info, 25 Aug 1994 16:01:29 -0500) and pico seems to work fine and does *not* display garbage character(s) at the top of the display anymore. I'm making the binaries for pine and pico (from the Pine 3.89 distribution) available from the following locations: pine ftp://ftp.fammed.washington.edu/pub/pine.gz (355107) pico ftp://ftp.fammed.washington.edu/pub/pico.gz (52045) The files will be deleted 9/9/94 at 3:00pm. Please let me know if you encounter problems... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 08:56:58 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16809; Mon, 29 Aug 94 08:56:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05202; Mon, 29 Aug 94 08:49:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from halcyon.halcyon.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05196; Mon, 29 Aug 94 08:49:52 -0700 Received: by halcyon.com id AA11236 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Mon, 29 Aug 1994 08:49:51 -0700 From: Ralph Sims Message-Id: <199408291549.AA11236@halcyon.com> Subject: Mailing list gated to newsgroup? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 08:49:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 290 It appears many of the posts in this mailing list are showing up in comp.mail.pine. In an effort to reduce my mail load (with apologies to procmail, which has done an admirable job), I'd like to unsubscribe from this list. Would someone be so kind as to mail me the magic incantation? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 08:59:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16892; Mon, 29 Aug 94 08:59:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05279; Mon, 29 Aug 94 08:51:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05273; Mon, 29 Aug 94 08:51:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qf8iv-00000QC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 08:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joseph Urban Subject: Bursting digests from within Pine Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 09:01:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Unless I've missed it somehow, I don't believe Pine has a builtin digest routine? Has anyone written a -- any awk, nawk or perl scripts to burst digests within Pine? Thanks, Joseph -- jurban@norden1.com The sheer naming of things, the creation of words, is the human way of _appropriating_ and, as it were, disalienating the world into which, after all, each of us is born as a newcomer and a stranger. -- Hannah Arendt From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 09:51:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19837; Mon, 29 Aug 94 09:51:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07176; Mon, 29 Aug 94 09:41:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07170; Mon, 29 Aug 94 09:41:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qf9U7-00000PC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 09:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ken Weaverling Subject: folder modification time Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 09:46:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Might be a bug (in 3.90) On DG/UX (d-g), whenever I make a change to a folder, be it the INBOX or one of my saved folders, the modification time gets set to Dec 31 1969 and then Pine notifies me that the modification time changed, by the mailbox hasn't changed. This isn't a big problem, just an annoyance. Luckily, I do full backups to 4mm DAT tapes, so it won't affect our backup strategy. BTW, I can trigger this just by leaving the folder or expunging it. Just wondering if anyone else has seen this. I get a sneaking suspicion it is DG/UX specific. I will start hunting through the source in a few days here to look for the problem and post patches if no one else has any ideas. Thanks. -- Ken Weaverling weave@dtcc.edu |*| Wilmington: +1 302 573-5460 Manager of Computer Services |*| Stanton: +1 302 454-3978 Stanton/Wilmington Campuses of |*| WHOIS: KJW Delaware Technical & Community College |*| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 10:03:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20322; Mon, 29 Aug 94 10:03:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07502; Mon, 29 Aug 94 09:55:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from dutepp6.et.tudelft.nl by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07496; Mon, 29 Aug 94 09:55:05 -0700 Received: by dutepp6.et.tudelft.nl id AA29778 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Mon, 29 Aug 1994 18:54:57 +0200 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 18:54:56 +0200 (MET DST) From: Richard Kooijman X-Sender: richard@dutepp6.et.tudelft.nl To: Joseph Urban Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Bursting digests from within Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 29 Aug 1994, Joseph Urban wrote: > Unless I've missed it somehow, I don't believe Pine has a > builtin digest routine? > > Has anyone written a -- any awk, nawk or perl scripts to > burst digests within Pine? If you mean that you want to split up a digest into individual messages, then I'll have to make yet another reference to the procmail package. This is includes 'formail' which can split up digests quite easily (from the 'formail' man page): To split up a digest one usually uses: formail +1 -ds >>the_mailbox_of_your_choice or formail +1 -ds procmail (Standard input is read for data). I haven't tried to use this with the new pipe feature in Pine 3.9, but I guess it will work. Richard. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 10:17:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20935; Mon, 29 Aug 94 10:17:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07718; Mon, 29 Aug 94 10:06:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07712; Mon, 29 Aug 94 10:06:30 -0700 Received: from elvis.med.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa18298; 29 Aug 94 13:06 EDT Received: by elvis.med.Virginia.EDU (5.65c/1.34) id AA25832; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 13:06:28 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 13:06:28 -0400 From: "Steven D. Majewski" Message-Id: <199408291706.AA25832@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) To: Doug Sewell Subject: Re: pine-bin.a32 - does binary use termcap or curses lib ? Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu I intended to cc this to the list, but I mistakenly entered the wrong name at the right address. Doug has since replied that a32 uses -lcurses, and changing it to -ltermcap has fixed his problem. Before reading his reply, I tried running the a32 pine binary - compose worked find, but when I tried 'forward' ( to resend the message below ) or 'reply' ( to Doug's message ) it locked up on me. So, it looks like it is -lcurses, but ought to be -ltermcap ! --- Forwarded mail from "Steven D. Majewski" On Aug 29, 11:30, Doug Sewell wrote: > > In article <199408282152.AA17113@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU> you wrote: > > : Is the RS6000/AIX binary of pine 3.90 ( pine-bin.a32 ) now built > : with -lcurses or -ltermcap ? > > : I had to rebuild 3.89 with termcap to eliminate the screen locking > : problem. Has the default changed on 3.90 ? > > Could you elaborate on this ??? > > We put a fix to imap/bezerk.c because of AIX cc's not doing the VALID > macro right. This fixed lock-ups when received new e-mail... but we > still have SIGNIFICANT lock-ups. > > I've asked here and in the AIX newsgroups, and this was the first time > I'd heard this... for what it's worth, the makefile.a32 uses -lcurses > but not -ltermcap (I think I had to use both for elm, and in the order > -ltermcap -lcurses, for it to all work right, but it's been a while since > I've built elm...) > When I first installed 3.89, I had frequent problems of pine/pico (on rs6000/aix 3.2.4 ) locking up when going into compose mode. ( There may have been other cases of lock up, but going into compose mode was the one that was somewhat reproducible. ) I sent a note to the list at that time, and someone suggested I try rebuilding with -ltermcap. ( But, I recall that one of the Pine team (I think) mentioned that they had switched from -ltermcap to -lcurses previously, because of other aix problems, and they were inquiring if any AIX-ers knew the "RIGHT" way to build it on that platform. [ I also recall combing thru the pine-info archives, and I think the consensus there was unclear. ] Since rebuilding 3.89, I haven't noticed any problems. [ If I neglected to report my success, it was probably that I had intended to test a couple of other variables, like xlc vs. gcc for example, before reporting, and never got around to finding the time to do that. ] However, I did just notice that: my pine has been build with -ltermcap, but the original makefile.a32~ file has -lcurses as the default. my pico has been built with -ltermcap, but that is apparently not my edit, but the distribution makefile.a32. Could one problem, perhaps be that WHATEVER screen lib pine and pico use, that they have to both use the SAME lib ? ( Or maybe, as in your elm example, you should really use both libraries ? ) - Steve Majewski (804-982-0831) - UVA Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics --- End of forwarded message from "Steven D. Majewski" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 10:50:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22271; Mon, 29 Aug 94 10:50:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08455; Mon, 29 Aug 94 10:42:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08449; Mon, 29 Aug 94 10:42:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfATe-000008C; Mon, 29 Aug 94 10:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "John N. Underwood" Subject: Re: Reproducable bug, bad msgno in mail_fetchheader Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 11:49:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 29 Aug 1994, Ken Weaverling wrote: > Gessh, my fault. Forgot a minor step! > > Delete all, X, ?, then press "B" to report a bug. *NOW* it asks if you > want to include the current message (in the bug report). Say "Y" and > it vomits. Yep. Definite bug. Anyone on the pine team want a debug1 and core file? :-) Of course, since this is reproduceable, that might not be necessary. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- John N. Underwood junderw@cs.clemson.edu - http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~junderw/junderw.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. - Mark Twain From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 10:51:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22315; Mon, 29 Aug 94 10:51:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08147; Mon, 29 Aug 94 10:41:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08141; Mon, 29 Aug 94 10:41:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfAQg-00000MC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 10:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hamjavar@unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar) Subject: ";" in pine-3.90 Date: 29 Aug 1994 10:19:51 -0600 Message-Id: <33t1r7$2ga5@auriga.unm.edu> Hello: If I can use ";" now that I have pine-3.90, then how come I can not select messages with "+"??? It seems that "S" pretty much covers all other status codes but not this one!!!! Thanks, Farid From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 10:52:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22352; Mon, 29 Aug 94 10:52:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08475; Mon, 29 Aug 94 10:43:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from gisws9.rtpnc.epa.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08469; Mon, 29 Aug 94 10:43:14 -0700 Received: by gisws9.rtpnc.epa.gov (5.4R3.00T/200.2.1.5) id AA01214; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 13:42:42 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 13:42:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Mat Waugh - MMTSI - RTP x1342 To: Dion Vansevenant Cc: Pine Messages Subject: Re: Compiling on DG/UX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII For those interested in the fix for DG/UX versions prior to 5.4.3 change the line if ((sin.sin_addr.s_addr = inet_addr (hostname)) != -1) { to be if ((sin.sin_addr.s_addr = (inet_addr (hostname)).s_addr) != -1) { this takes care of DGUX's strange but endearing handling of inet_addr. On DG/UX 5.4.3 it all compiles with no problems of course. Mat On Sun, 28 Aug 1994, Dion Vansevenant wrote: > > Could some kind soul please help me? I was compiling pine 3.90 on our > system and received the following error during c-client compilation: > > tcp_unix.c: In function 'tcp_open': > In file included from os_d-g.c:58: > tcp_unix.c:73: incompatible type in assignment > Fatal error in /usr/lib/gcc/cc1 > Exit status 041 > > I went into tcp_unix and found this at line 73+: > > if ((sin.sin_addr.s_addr = inet_addr (hostname)) != -1) { > sin.sin_family = AF_INET; /* family is always Internet */ > strcpy (hostname,host); /* hostname is user's argument */ > > I seem to remember something about the sin.sin_addr.s_addr from before > when I first tried to get pine. Does anyone know what the problem might > be? It looks like this failure caused a complete installation failure as > well. Any help would be greatly apprciated. TIA > > > > Dion > > *----------------------------------------------* > | Dion Vansevenant stu2@faxon.ca | > | Systems Administrator | > | Faxon/SMS Canada Ltd. (519) 472-1006 voice | > | P.O. Box 2382 (519) 472-1072 fax | > | London, ON | > | Canada N6A 5A7 | > *----------------------------------------------* > > If you don't change your direction - you're bound to end up where you're headed. > - Chinese Proverb > > -- Mat Waugh mat_waugh@unixmail.rtpnc.epa.gov Martin Marietta Technical Services In Support of U.S. EPA Voice 919.541.1342 Fax 919.541.1948 Unix and GIS Technical Services (UGTS) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 11:17:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23210; Mon, 29 Aug 94 11:17:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08658; Mon, 29 Aug 94 11:07:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08652; Mon, 29 Aug 94 11:07:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfApf-000008C; Mon, 29 Aug 94 10:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Reproducable bug, bad msgno in mail_fetchheader Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 10:33:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Nope, that one's easy enough to reproduce. Thanks for the report! |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 29 Aug 1994, John N. Underwood wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Aug 1994, Ken Weaverling wrote: > > > Gessh, my fault. Forgot a minor step! > > > > Delete all, X, ?, then press "B" to report a bug. *NOW* it asks if you > > want to include the current message (in the bug report). Say "Y" and > > it vomits. > > Yep. Definite bug. Anyone on the pine team want a debug1 and core file? :-) > Of course, since this is reproduceable, that might not be necessary. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > John N. Underwood > junderw@cs.clemson.edu - http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~junderw/junderw.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns > of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. - Mark Twain > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 11:18:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23277; Mon, 29 Aug 94 11:18:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08938; Mon, 29 Aug 94 11:09:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pobox.csc.fi by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08932; Mon, 29 Aug 94 11:09:13 -0700 Received: from tellus.csc.fi (tellus.csc.fi [128.214.46.33]) by pobox.csc.fi (8.6.9/8.6.9+CSC-2.0) with SMTP id VAA23176; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 21:09:07 +0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from localhost.csc.fi by tellus.csc.fi (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06434; Mon, 29 Aug 94 21:09:06 +0300 Message-Id: <9408291809.AA06434@tellus.csc.fi> To: hamjavar@unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ";" in pine-3.90 In-Reply-To: Your message of "29 Aug 1994 10:19:51 MDT." <33t1r7$2ga5@auriga.unm.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.5beta 8/10/94 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 21:09:05 +0300 From: Pekka Kytolaakso Your message dated: 29 Aug 1994 10:19:51 MDT > If I can use ";" now that I have pine-3.90, then > how come I can not select messages with "+"??? > It seems that "S" pretty much covers all other > status codes but not this one!!!! You can do this by going to a message that has status '+' and then doind Select/Text/To/Current To or ';TT^T^M'. Pekka Kytölaakso --------------------------------------------------------------- Pekka.Kytolaakso@funet.fi FUNET Finnish University and Reseach Network netmgr@tellus.csc.fi PL 405 FIN-02101 Espoo FINLAND Phone: +358 0 4572246 Telefax: + 358 0 4572302 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 11:32:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24028; Mon, 29 Aug 94 11:32:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09188; Mon, 29 Aug 94 11:21:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09182; Mon, 29 Aug 94 11:21:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfB1n-00000bC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 11:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Farid Hamjavar Subject: PINE 3.90 is great Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 09:17:35 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Way to go..... PINE 3.90 is great. How hard it is to compile on aix? Has anybody done so? Is anybody out there using Spruce? Thanks, Farid hamjavar@unm.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 11:56:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25097; Mon, 29 Aug 94 11:56:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09845; Mon, 29 Aug 94 11:47:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09839; Mon, 29 Aug 94 11:47:25 -0700 Received: from gnofn.ucc.uno.edu by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12189; Mon, 29 Aug 94 11:47:23 -0700 Received: by gnofn.ucc.uno.edu. (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA23588; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 13:47:00 +0600 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 13:47:00 -0500 (CDT) From: Jessica Bray LLE Subject: To: Pine list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 23 unsubscribe pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 12:14:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26257; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:14:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10373; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:05:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10367; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:05:57 -0700 Received: from ester.dsv.su.se by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12660; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:05:55 -0700 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SUNET/ADMD=_/C=SE/; Relayed; 29 Aug 94 21:04:45+0200 Date: 29 Aug 94 21:04:45+0200 From: Jessica Bray LLE Message-Id: <806833*@su-kom.dsv.su.se> To: "Pine mailer discussions group (pine-infoEcac.washington.edu)" , Pine list From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 12:17:35 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26387; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:17:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10503; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:10:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from steadfast.teradyne.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10494; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:10:48 -0700 Received: from laforge.ttd.teradyne.com by steadfast.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/jxh940509) id AA17199; Mon, 29 Aug 94 15:06:57 EDT Received: from columbus.ttd.teradyne.com by laforge.ttd.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/TER-1.35/laforge-1.1) id AA06856; Mon, 29 Aug 94 14:06:17 CDT Received: by columbus.ttd.teradyne.com (16.6/15.6) id AA29599; Mon, 29 Aug 94 14:06:22 -0500 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 14:06:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Kenny Wickstrom To: "" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 used with xterm In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 29 Aug 1994, wrote: > I do not get a core-dump when starting any other application in the xterm > (such as "xterm -e pico file"), nor do I get it when I start the xterm > separately (ie without the "-e command". > > Should I ftp the source and compile my own version? or is this not at all > a pine issue? > I have the same setup, but I used the source. The result is the same. I get a core file everytime I exit pine when started using: xterm -e pine I don't get a core if I start the xterm and then from a prompt I start pine. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- |/ | | |\enny |/\|ickstrom (wickstro@ttd.teradyne.com) ======== // ___ \\___ ==\\ || \\__ ___ 1405 Lake Cook Rd. // // \\ ||---\ _|| _|| \\ // ||--\\ // \\ Deerfield, IL 60015 // ===== || // || // || \\// || || ===== (708)940-9000 // \\___ || \\_/\_ \\_/\_ // || || \\___ (708)940-0344(FAX) Telecommunications Division // _// From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 12:23:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26641; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:23:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10627; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:14:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pg2-srv.wam.umd.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10621; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:14:31 -0700 Received: from rac2.wam.umd.edu (highway@rac2.wam.umd.edu [128.8.70.31]) by pg2-srv.wam.umd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA27476 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 15:14:30 -0400 Received: (highway@localhost) by rac2.wam.umd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA26107; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 15:14:29 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 15:14:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "-sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him." Subject: Compiling PINE on AIX To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, I just compiled PINE 3.90 on someone else's account that's on a AIX system (RS/6000) and it's version 3.2... So far, there hasn't been any problems. The same can be said for LINUX and SunOS4.13. John "Highway" Wu | "To every thing there is a season, | Alpha Phi Omega highway@w3eax.umd.edu | and a time to every purpose under | Svc Fraternity 124 Englefield Drive | the heaven: A time to be born, | Univ of Maryland Gaithersburg, MD 20878 | and a time to die;" Eccles 3:1,2 | College Park, MD *----------------------*------------------------------------*----------------* | " ... Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman | | without the man, in the Lord. For as the woman is of the man, even so | | is the man also by the woman; but all things of God. " 1 Cor 11:11,12 | *----------------------------------------------------------------------------* | WWW - http://www.wam.umd.edu/~highway (daily modifications) | *----------------------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 12:30:11 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26870; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:30:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10775; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:22:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10769; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:22:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfByY-000008C; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: seost2@pitt.edu (Selcuk Ozturk) Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: 29 Aug 94 12:12:27 Message-Id: -- --- *This letter is printed on 100% recycled electrons.* --- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 12:34:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27106; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:34:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10902; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:27:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10894; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:27:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfC3f-00000MC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brandon@cc.usu.edu (Brandon Gillespie) Subject: Re: A plea to pine team (Re: Annoying .pine-debug## files) Message-Id: <1994Aug29.112506.25889@cc.usu.edu> Date: 29 Aug 94 11:25:06 MDT References: In article , ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) writes: > The hints file says you can recompile, which was also true of 3.89. With > all the other things that can be set in the rc files, it would seem nearly > trivial to have this as a settable option. If it already is and I missed > it, forgive me. > I'm sorry, but out of all the nice things the pine people have done, this seems extremely ridiculous to release a binary to the world with debug options turned ON. If I wanted to compile it myself, I would, but the idea with getting a pre-compiled binary which WORKS, not which is in debug mode. I noticed they hadn't even stripped the binaries they have available. When was the last time you saw a professional package released which had debug options on and wasn't even stripped? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 12:42:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27600; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:42:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11002; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:33:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from faxon.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10996; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:33:53 -0700 Received: by faxon.ca (5.4R2.01/192.139.186.253) id AA17452; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 15:30:22 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 15:29:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Dion Vansevenant Subject: Re: Compiling on DG/UX To: Mat Waugh - MMTSI - RTP x1342 Cc: Pine Messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 29 Aug 1994, Mat Waugh - MMTSI - RTP x1342 wrote: > For those interested in the fix for DG/UX versions prior to 5.4.3 change > the line > if ((sin.sin_addr.s_addr = inet_addr (hostname)) != -1) { > to be > if ((sin.sin_addr.s_addr = (inet_addr (hostname)).s_addr) != -1) { > this takes care of DGUX's strange but endearing handling of inet_addr. > > On DG/UX 5.4.3 it all compiles with no problems of course. > Thanks Mat, will try this. Once we upgrade to 5.4.3 then I guess I'll have to rebuild Pine the way it came, won't I? This is good to know in advance. Dion *----------------------------------------------* | Dion Vansevenant stu2@faxon.ca | | Systems Administrator | | Faxon/SMS Canada Ltd. (519) 472-1006 voice | | P.O. Box 2382 (519) 472-1072 fax | | London, ON | | Canada N6A 5A7 | *----------------------------------------------* If you don't change your direction - you're bound to end up where you're headed. - Chinese Proverb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 12:50:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27793; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:50:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11296; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:41:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ibm-3.MPA-Garching.MPG.DE by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11290; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:41:05 -0700 Received: from neptun.sai.msu.su (neptun.sai.msu.su [158.250.248.2]) by ibm-3.MPA-Garching.MPG.DE (8.6.8.1/8.6) with ESMTP id VAA96802 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 21:42:07 +0200 Message-Id: <199408291942.VAA96802@ibm-3.MPA-Garching.MPG.DE> Received: (from megera@localhost) by neptun.sai.msu.su (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA05892 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 23:41:04 +0400 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 23:41:04 +0400 From: "O.Bartunov" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: unsubscribe pine-info unsubscribe pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 13:16:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29472; Mon, 29 Aug 94 13:16:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12042; Mon, 29 Aug 94 13:08:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12033; Mon, 29 Aug 94 13:08:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfChj-00000PC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 12:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: PC Pine Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 09:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <33qi19$g8k@hollywood.cinenet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <33qi19$g8k@hollywood.cinenet.net> Offline support is planned for a future release, but it is not yet available... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 28 Aug 1994, Don Long wrote: > I get to Internet through a server that has Pine (along with Pico) I find > it excellent. However, I can only use it while on-line to my server. It's > a free phone call, and a flat rate, but it does tie up the phone. Can I > load Pine on m,y PC at home and do all my reading and composing off-line? > > -- > Don Long AKA Red Bear redbear@cinenet.net > UCLA staff sans privileges Compuserve 74203,2601 > > "The philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways; > the point is to change it" > Karl Marx > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 13:26:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00126; Mon, 29 Aug 94 13:26:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12217; Mon, 29 Aug 94 13:19:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12211; Mon, 29 Aug 94 13:19:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfCtv-000008C; Mon, 29 Aug 94 13:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sdm7g@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU (Steven D. Majewski) Subject: use MIME for message digests (was: Bursting digests from within Pine) Message-Id: References: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 16:48:27 GMT In article , Joseph Urban wrote: > Unless I've missed it somehow, I don't believe Pine has a >builtin digest routine? > > Has anyone written a -- any awk, nawk or perl scripts to >burst digests within Pine? > I don't have an answer to your question. ( When I need to undigest something, I usually pop into 'mush' and use the 'undigest' command.) But I have another question: How can we get mailing list digesters to start supporting MIME ? Wouldn't that be a better way to include a number of messages ? Since typically, most digests use "--------" as a break between mail messages, wouldn't a mime boundary that started with that sequence be backward compatable for the MIME impaired ? [ Is this already standard practice on any mailing lists ? If it is, I haven't noticed it. ] One nice feature of using MIME message parts for digests is that you don't typically have to undigest the whole digest to access a single message. For Pine, it would be nice if for content type "message", it would allow Save as optionally, an append to an existing mailbox. Even better would be supporting viewing a MIME digest as a sort of recursive mail-folder. - Steve Majewski (804-982-0831) - UVA Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 13:41:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00673; Mon, 29 Aug 94 13:41:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12442; Mon, 29 Aug 94 13:28:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from aaron.music.qc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12436; Mon, 29 Aug 94 13:28:25 -0700 Received: from igor by aaron.music.qc.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA01277; Mon, 29 Aug 94 16:06:41 -0500 Received: by igor.music.qc.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0S) id AA01101; Mon, 29 Aug 94 16:26:18 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 16:26:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "David N. Richards" X-Sender: richards@igor To: Brandon Gillespie Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: A plea to pine team (Re: Annoying .pine-debug## files) In-Reply-To: <1994Aug29.112506.25889@cc.usu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 29 Aug 1994, Brandon Gillespie wrote: > Date: 29 Aug 94 11:25:06 MDT > From: Brandon Gillespie > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: A plea to pine team (Re: Annoying .pine-debug## files) > > I'm sorry, but out of all the nice things the pine people have done, this seems > extremely ridiculous to release a binary to the world with debug options turned > ON. If I wanted to compile it myself, I would, but the idea with getting a > pre-compiled binary which WORKS, not which is in debug mode. I noticed they > hadn't even stripped the binaries they have available. When was the last time > you saw a professional package released which had debug options on and wasn't > even stripped? > Can't you use strip to strip the binaries of this very professional and 'free' software package? Dave ========================================== David Richards The Aaron Copland School of Music at Queens College E-mail: richards@aaron.music.qc.edu Voice : 1-(718)-997-3874 ========================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 14:01:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01319; Mon, 29 Aug 94 14:01:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12921; Mon, 29 Aug 94 13:49:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12909; Mon, 29 Aug 94 13:49:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfDMa-000008C; Mon, 29 Aug 94 13:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mitch@unidata.ucar.edu (Mitch Baltuch) Subject: building pine on solaris 2.3 Date: 29 Aug 94 20:02:13 GMT Message-Id: has anyone managed to build pine on solaris 2.3 with the ansi compiler? neither pico or pine will build. i tried using gcc and pico would build, but pine still failed. thanks, mitch -- _______________________________________________________________________________ Mitchell S. Baltuch Unidata Program Center Software Engineer Univ. Corp for Atmospheric Research mitch@unidata.ucar.edu WWW: http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 14:22:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01997; Mon, 29 Aug 94 14:22:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13460; Mon, 29 Aug 94 14:15:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13448; Mon, 29 Aug 94 14:15:51 -0700 Received: from elvis.med.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa29582; 29 Aug 94 17:15 EDT Received: by elvis.med.Virginia.EDU (5.65c/1.34) id AA19491; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 17:15:49 -0400 Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 17:15:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven D. Majewski" X-Sender: sdm7g@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: user messages & other customizations Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The new pine looks great! Good job, guys - It was worth the wait! I noticed that there was a place for local support in the help. I added a /usr/local/lib/pine.info file with my name and address and it came up in the help. Is there any way, other than wrapping the pine command in a script, to cause a user notice to pop up ? I would like to warn users that I'll be replacing 3.89 with 3.90 before I actually do it. ( We had a number of problems when we upgraded to 3.89 with pine locking up - problem and cure recounted in another thread. It seems to be fixed, but I'ld still like to warn them. ) Or is there a way to add this to the 3.90 startup when it gives a newuser message. It clearly checks the status of the config file, or some indicator and know when it's the first time the new version has been run. If I can't warn them ahead of time, I'ld like to at least customize that message to tell them how they can run the old version if they run into problems. If not, that would be a useful customization to add. The best alternative I can think of would be to make a shell script to replace the pine command, that sends a notification with /bin/mail before invoking pine ( and leaving a .pine-user-notified file or something behind ) I would also like to make domain addressing the global default, however, when I tried doing this before, I had problems because users had to have run a separate 'mailreg' program that registers their machine address before they could use domain addressing without the possibility of a bounce. ( The central server is smart enough to TRY to find a unique match to a unregistered name, but that doesn't always work. ) Similarly, it would be nice if there were some way to add hooks to pine to support this mailreg procedure. Again, wrapping pine in a script would be one solution, but I would perfer to have the hooks IN pine, even if it meant recompiling with some customization. ( and for captive mail only accounts, it would be nice if this were more restrictive than the generic "|" . One of the nice things about Pine is that it's so well integrated as mailer/address-book/news/editor - some folks here don't really have to learn another program if they don't want to be bothered. I'ld like to be able to keep it that way! ) - Steve Majewski (804-982-0831) - UVA Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 14:26:47 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02210; Mon, 29 Aug 94 14:26:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13354; Mon, 29 Aug 94 14:07:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13348; Mon, 29 Aug 94 14:07:38 -0700 Received: by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01438; Mon, 29 Aug 94 14:05:28 -0700 Received: by ListDist v0.2 for /usr/local/lib/pine-announce.cf Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01432; Mon, 29 Aug 94 14:05:26 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13287; Mon, 29 Aug 94 14:05:25 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17518; Mon, 29 Aug 94 14:05:24 -0700 Reply-To: Pine Development Team Message-Id: <9408241626.AA29044@shiva2.cac.washington.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 94 09:26:16 -0700 From: Pine Development Team To: Pine Announcement Distribution Subject: Pine Frequently Asked Questions X-Owner: pine-announce-request@cac.washington.edu X-To: Pine Users --========== Content-Description: Contents Subject: Contents PINE FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS The following questions have been compiled from questions asked on the pine-info and pine-bugs mailing lists. General * What is Pine? * What is MIME? * What is IMAP? * How can I get a copy of Pine? * Is there a manual? * What mailing lists and newsgroups are there dealing with Pine? * What are all these funny names in your examples? * How many sites use Pine? Errors and Problems * I have found a bug in Pine 3.05. Could you please fix it? * If I postpone a Reply, there is no 'A' in the index after I resume and send it. * "Folder Format Invalidated (consult an expert), aborted" * What is folder locking and how does it work? * What happens when two Pine sessions access the same mailbox simultaneously? * Why did I get the message "locked, override in XXX sec"? Usage * How do I keep all of the names from showing up at the top of the message? * How do I use Ispell with Pine (and Pico)? * How can I have a signature automatically appended to my mail messages? * How do I read News with Pine? * Can I post news with Pine? * How do I "paste" an address from the addressbook into the text of a message? * How can I filter messages into different incoming folders? * Can I define a Reply-To: header? * Can I execute Pine from a shell script so I can use my addressbook? * xbiff lets me know about new mail, but pine doesn't know about it. * How can I read a ROT13 encoded message? Installation and Configuration * Can Kerberos or AFS authentication be used with Pine? * Can PC-Pine be used with a POP server? * What is a Tenex mailbox and why should I use it? * Where does Unix Pine look for configuration information? * Where does PC-Pine look for configuration information? * How do I make Pine work with my older terminal? * How do I configure Pine to not leave mail in /usr/spool/mail? Platform Specific * To what platforms has Pine been ported? * Pine 3.89 on an IBM RS/6000 running AIX 3.2.3 crashes every time I try to open a folder. * What PC comm software works with the "Print to ANSI" print option? * What Mac comm software works with the "Print to ANSI" print option? * What Amiga comm software works with the "Print to ANSI" print option? Conversions * How can someone without a MIME-aware mail program decipher an attachment? * How do I convert a Sun Mailtool attachment to MIME format? * How do I convert Berkeley Mail aliases to Pine Addressbook? * How do I convert Elm aliases to Pine Addressbook? Development Info * What are the current versions of Pine and related software? * What is new in this version of Pine? * When is the next release of Pine (tentatively) scheduled? * What new features will the next release of Pine include? --========== Content-Description: General Questions About Pine Content-Type: MULTIPART/DIGEST; BOUNDARY="----------" Subject: General Questions About Pine GENERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT PINE ------------ Content-Description: What is Pine? Subject: What is Pine? Pine(tm) --a Program for Internet News & Email-- is a tool for reading, sending, and managing electronic messages. It was designed specifically with novice computer users in mind, but can be tailored to accommodate the needs of "power users" as well. Pine uses Internet message protocols (e.g. RFC-822, SMTP, MIME, IMAP, NNTP) and runs on Unix and PCs. The guiding principles for Pine's user-interface were: careful limitation of features, one-character mnemonic commands, always-present command menus, immediate user feedback, and high tolerance for user mistakes. It is intended that Pine can be learned by exploration rather than reading manuals. It has the ability to perform full screen editing of messages, attachments (such as Word or Excel files), and other advanced message system features. Pine uses IMAP for accessing message folders on remote computers and MIME for sending multimedia or other binary files as attachments to normal messages. ------------ Content-Description: What is MIME? Subject: What is MIME? MIME (RFC 1521) stands for "Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions". It is an Internet standard which allows transfer of binary files (word-processing documents, spreadsheets, images, sounds, etc) between any compliant mailers. You can get technical information about MIME from the RFC. Ongoing discussion on MIME takes place in the newsgroup comp.mail.mime. There is also a Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) list that is posted regularly to comp.mail.mime and comp.answers. ------------ Content-Description: What is IMAP? Subject: What is IMAP? IMAP stands for "Internet Message Access Protocol". An IMAP client program on any platform at any location on the Internet can access email folders on an IMAP server. While the messages appear to be local, they reside on the server until the client explicitly moves or deletes them. The IMAP protocol is a functional (but incompatible) superset of POP. A principal advantage of IMAP over POP is that it permits using more than one computer to access your mail. Using multiple computers with POP typically results in your mail ending up scattered across all of those computers. Another key advantage is IMAP's ability to selectively access parts of messages, e.g. you don't have to wait for a 2MB audio attachment to be retrieved until you specifically ask for it. This is a big win over low-speed (e.g. dialup) connections. For a detailed comparison of IMAP and POP, see the paper "Comparing Two Approaches to Remote Mailbox Access: IMAP vs. POP." IMAP is what allows Pine (or any other IMAP client) to access email on a remote mail server, usually one that is shared (central or departmental). There is an IETF working group currently defining the IMAP4 revision to the IMAP2 specification (RFC-1176). A copy of the latest IMAP draft may be obtained from ftp.cac.washington.edu in the file imap/latest-imap-draft ------------ Content-Description: How can I get a copy of Pine? Subject: How can I get a copy of Pine? Pine is available via anonymous ftp from the pine directory of ftp.cac.washington.edu. See the Installation Instructions for Pine for more information. ------------ Content-Description: Is there a manual? Subject: Is there a manual? The Pine program itself includes extensive online help. Additional documentation may be found via anonymous FTP or via World-Wide-Web using the following URLs: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine The Pine program itself also includes extensive online help. Other forms of access are planned for the future. ------------ Content-Description: What mailing lists and newsgroups are there dealing with Pine? Subject: What mailing lists and newsgroups are there dealing with Pine? The "comp.mail.pine" newsgroup is devoted to Pine. It is bi-directionally gatewayed to the "pine-info" mailing list described below. The following mailing lists deal with Pine and related topics: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Pine-Info is a mailing list for the email program Pine. The mailing list includes discussion of Pine features, bugs, tricks, etc. Often technical and installation questions appear on the list. New releases, fixes and version of Pine are announced on the pine-info mailing list. For official announcements only, you may wish to see pine-announce instead of this list. To subscribe to pine-info, send a message to majordomo@cac.washington.edu with subscribe pine-info in the body of the message. Owners of this mailing list can be contacted at owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu. Pine-Announce@cac.washington.edu Pine-Announce is a announcement list for the email program Pine. When new Pine products are released and old ones updated, a message goes out to this group describing the development. It is a very low volume list and includes no discussion whatsoever. _All messages to this list are automatically forwarded to pine-info, so it is not necessary to subscribe to both lists._ To subscribe to pine-announce, send a message to majordomo@cac.washington.edu with subscribe pine-announce in the body of the message. Owners of this mailing list can be contacted at owner-pine-announce@cac.washington.edu. IMAP@CAC.Washington.EDU This is the official mailing list for the IETF IMAP working group and other interested parties. Discussion of the evolving IMAP standard and related issues is conducted on this list. To subscribe to IMAP, send a message to imap-request@cac.washington.edu. C-Client@CAC.Washington.EDU This list is for discussion of the C-Client library which is used by Pine and various other mail and IMAP clients and servers. ------------ Content-Description: What are all these funny names in your examples? Subject: What are all these funny names in your examples? In an attempt to avoid confusion with real places or services we decided to make up a ficticious user for our examples. This person is John Smith, who is currently an art major at the University of Nowhere (nowhere.edu). He previously attended Elsewhere Community College (elsewhere.edu). His username is jsmith and he uses the following machines: rembrandt.art.nowhere.edu A Unix timesharing machine. picasso.art.nowhere.edu An SMTP server. news.nowhere.edu A Usenet News server which supports both NNTP and IMAP access. davinci.art.nowhere.edu A PC-compatible workstation running MS-DOS. warhol.art.nowhere.edu An IMAP server. fozzie.elsewhere.edu An IMAP server at Elsewhere Community College. ------------ Content-Description: How many sites use Pine? Subject: How many sites use Pine? We don't have a good way to count the number of sites running Pine, but at last count over 4,000 sites in 40 countries had downloaded the Pine 3.89 distribution from ftp.cac.washington.edu. There are also several major archive sites that mirror the distribution, so the actual numbers are probably much higher. -------------- --========== Content-Description: Errors and Problems Content-Type: MULTIPART/DIGEST; BOUNDARY="----------" Subject: Errors and Problems ERRORS AND PROBLEMS ------------ Content-Description: I have found a bug in Pine 3.05. Could you please fix it? Subject: I have found a bug in Pine 3.05. Could you please fix it? When a bug is identified in an old release, there is a very strong possibility that the associated code has been re-written to the point that a fix will not apply to the current release. Hence, if we can't reproduce the problem in the current version, our standard response will be to ask you to upgrade. ------------ Content-Description: If I postpone a Reply, there is no 'A' in the index after I resume and send it. Subject: If I postpone a Reply, there is no 'A' in the index after I resume and send it. This is a known limitation of the current release of pine. When you postpone a composition, Pine does not have any way to keep track of which message was being replied to (or that it was a reply at all). This limitation will be removed in a future release of Pine. ------------ Content-Description: "Folder Format Invalidated (consult an expert), aborted" Subject: "Folder Format Invalidated (consult an expert), aborted" The message "Folder Format Invalidated (consult an expert), aborted" means that Pine was reading your mail folder, and at the point in which it expected a start-of-message header line, it found something else. The ``format invalidated'' condition can happen in one of three ways: 1. bad data exists at the beginning of the folder. 2. data was appended to the folder after Pine initially read it, and the new data did not begin with a start-of-message-header. 3. the folder was modified without Pine being aware of it. All three problems are generally caused by software external to Pine. Condition (1) can be determined by whether or not the problem repeats itself after restarting Pine. If restarting Pine does not make the problem go away, then you need to look at the actual file for the folder and see what is wrong with the very first line. In particular, make sure that there are no blank lines at the beginning of the file and that the first character of the folder file is a capital ``F'' , the second an ``r'', the third an ``o'', etc. In the case of an INBOX, you may want to rename the folder so that new mail can be delivered while repairs on the corrupt folder are being done. Condition (2) may be caused by a mail delivery process (e.g. /bin/mail) which writes some characters other than ``From '' at the beginning of the new data. Condition (3) is caused by another program manipulating the mail folder without following the normal folder locking protocols. This is a general problem on UNIX. Conditions (2) and (3) have also been known to occur when accessing folders via NFS, if the information returned by the stat() and read() system calls do not correspond with each other as a result of NFS attribute caching. Restarting Pine on that folder always clears conditions (2) and (3). If the problem is chronic, it may be worth an investigation to determine its cause. Usually, it is due to the misbehavior of some external software. The reason why Pine gives up with conditions (2) and (3) is that it does not want to risk damaging user data by guessing what is right. Pine never writes to the folder unless it is absolutely sure it knows what it is doing. There are some steps which can be taken to reduce the risk of these conditions coming up. Some of these steps may require the assistance of your system adminstrator (or whomever it was that built and installed Pine on your system): 1. Use IMAP instead of NFS to access remote folders. Problems with locking over NFS are perhaps the single most important cause of user difficulties. Using IMAP eliminates this class of problem. 2. Consider enabling the mbox driver in Pine. If the mbox driver is enabled, mail is transferred from the /usr/spool/mail mail into a file called mbox in your home directory, if mbox exists. The home directory mbox file is then your INBOX. This has the advantage that Pine and the mail delivery system are less often in contention for the INBOX, and never both trying to update it. Pine only empties the /usr/spool/mail file, it never tries updating it. 3. Be careful not to run other programs that modify your folders while you are running Pine. Such programs may change the folder out from under Pine, and lead Pine to conclude that there is a problem with its view of the file. ------------ Content-Description: What is folder locking and how does it work? Subject: What is folder locking and how does it work? Locks are used by Pine and other mail programs to prevent damage from occurring to the mail file when multiple programs try to write to the file at the same time. Because there are many different schemes of mail file locking used on UNIX, Pine implements all of them. The result is a lot of complexity. There are several reasons why locking needs to be done: 1. If you want to read the mail file, you want to make sure that no other process will modify the mail file while you are reading it. 2. If you want to write to the mail file, you want to make sure that no other process is accessing the mail file while you are writing it. 3. If you have the mail file open, you want to make sure that no other process can alter any of the internal contents of the mail file that you have read, but it is OK if another process appends new data to the mail file. 4. If you want to alter any of the internal contents of the mail file, you want to make sure that no other process has the mail file open. There are several mechanisms of locking: * The creation of a file which has the same name as the mail file, but with a suffix of ".lock" (for example, this lock for /usr/spool/mail/isma is named /usr/spool/mail/isma.lock). This file accomplishes locks (1) and (2) above. This is an exclusive lock. * The use of an flock() with LOCK_SH on the mail file. This accomplishes lock (1), and prevents lock (2). Multiple processes can do this. * The use of an flock() with LOCK_EX on the mail file. This accomplishes lock (2), and prevents lock (1). This is an exclusive lock. * The use of an flock() with LOCK_EX on a file on /tmp. The file name used depends upon the version of Pine. This accomplishes locks (3) and (4). This is an exclusive lock. On SVR4-based systems, the lockf() subroutine or fcntl() system call it used instead of flock(). It is rumored that this creates a kind of lock file as well, but this has not been directly verified. _NOTE: flock() on BSD systems does not work over NFS, so only the most basic .lock file locking -- locks (1) and (2) happen over NFS. On SVR4 systems, fcntl() locking attempts to work over NFS, but there are known problems in the rpc.lockd daemon which have caused hangs if an application beats on the mechanism too much (and Pine beats on it). All of the above mechanisms work reliably over IMAP connections._ _[MRC]_ ------------ Content-Description: What happens when two Pine sessions access the same mailbox at the same time? Subject: What happens when two Pine sessions access the same mailbox at the same time? This varies depending on what format your folders are stored in. With the default Berkeley format, the last session to open a folder will get full access to the folder and the previous session(s) will be changed to read-only access. When a folder is read-only, you will not see any further updates to that folder until it is reopened with full access. Currently the INBOX cannot be reopened without exiting and restarting Pine. With the Tenex format, any number of sessions can simultaneously have full access to a folder, with the exception that expunging is disabled. See "What is a Tenex mailbox and why should I use it?" for more information. ------------ Content-Description: Why did I get the message "locked, override in _XXX_ sec"? Subject: Why did I get the message "locked, override in _XXX_ sec"? The message "locked, will override in _xxx_ seconds" occurs when Pine has discovered that some other mail program claims to be accessing your mail folder (i.e. _folder_.lock exists). This is a very low-level lock used by programs such as the system mailer in delivering mail, and by certain programs such as mail, elm, babyl, mm, etc. Supposedly, this lock is only to be acquired and held for a very short period of time (less than a second). It starts with 285 seconds, retries every second, and issues that message every 15 seconds. The total period of time, 5 minutes, is the time that it will keep on trying before it concludes that the lock is false -- that is, that whatever program locked the folder forgot to unlock it (perhaps it crashed) -- and Pine will go ahead and claim the lock for itself. This is not due to a conflict between two copies of Pine, since Pine interlocks against itself in a higher-level fashion. _NOTE: On some systems with 14 character filename limits, attempting to open a folder with a 14 character name (e.g. saved-messages) will trigger this sequence. Folder names should be limited to 9 characters or less on those systems._ -------------- --========== Content-Description: Usage Content-Type: MULTIPART/DIGEST; BOUNDARY="----------" Subject: Usage USAGE ------------ Content-Description: How do I keep all of the names from showing up at the top of the message? Subject: How do I keep all of the names from showing up at the top of the message? Put addresses and/or list from your address book in the Bcc: (blind carbon copy) header field. You will see all the names and addresses as you compose the message, but they are erased before arriving in other people's INBOXes. The Bcc: header is not displayed automatically in the default Pine configuration, so you may need to use the rich headers command (Ctrl-R) while the cursor is in the header to expose it. ------------ Content-Description: How do I use Ispell with Pine (and Pico)? Subject: How do I use Ispell with Pine (and Pico)? Here are a couple ways to use Ispell within Pine: 1. Set your alternate-editor to ispell, then ^_ in the composer invokes ispell. To do this set "editor=/usr/local/bin/ispell" in your .pinerc file. This may be set within Pine via the _OPTIONS_ task of the _SETUP_ command from the main menu. Now, when you press ^_ (Control-Underscore) in Pine, you will execute the ispell program in its native mode. Press ? for help. Press I to insert unknown words into the personal dictionary. You can still press Ctrl-T to use the standard pine spell-checking program (which will -not- use your personal dictionary). See 'man ispell' for more information on the ispell program. 2. Pine already checks the SPELL environment variable so you can create the following script and name it spell. #!/bin/sh ispell -l | sort | uniq To make Ctrl-T in pine use 'ispell' and your '$HOME/.ispell_words' dictionary: + make the above script file 'spell' in your home directory + make it executable: 'chmod u+x spell' + set the environment variable SPELL: 'setenv SPELL $HOME/spell' (you may include this command in your .profile, .cshrc or .login file) Now, when you press Ctrl-T in Pine, you will execute the ispell program, and it will recognize words stored in the private dictionary. The screen display will look like pine is using the standard spell-checking program. Unfortunately, this method does not allow the user to Insert words into the private dictionary. However, this might be useful with a central script file (setenv SPELL ...) and a central private dictionary (ispell -p ...) to provide a common private dictionary for an entire workgroup. The manager could add items to the private dictionary; ordinary pine users would use the private dictionary (Ctrl-T), but they could not change it. To use ispell with pico, implement the 'ispell' program via ^T (CTRL-T) (using the script file) in addition to implementing it via ^_ (CTRL-_) (using the .pinerc file). * Use Ctrl-_ in Pine (it won't work in Pico) for full-featured ispell. * Use Ctrl-T in Pico to use the ispell program and your .ispell_words dictionary (but without the full ispell functionality). You can use Ctrl-T/ispell in Pine also, but why bother when Ctrl-_ works better. _[Mike Ramey ]_ ------------ Content-Description: How can I have a signature automatically appended to my mail messages? Subject: How can I have a signature automatically appended to my mail messages? Using your favorite text editor (e.g. Pico), create a file in your home directory called .signature containing the text you want appended to each message. For more detailed information see The Signature and Finger Frequently Asked Questions list which is posted periodically to the comp.mail.pine and comp.mail.misc newsgroups. PC-Pine users should put their signatures in the file \PINE\PINE.SIG. ------------ Content-Description: How do I read News with Pine? Subject: How do I read News with Pine? Three ways to access news via Pine: 1. Local News. If news is stored on the same machine you run Pine on, you can specify: news-collections=News *[*] 2. Via NNTP. Your .newsrc file must be on the machine where Pine is running. Assuming news is stored on the machine news.nowhere.edu, a typical .pinerc entry would be: news-collections=News *{news.nowhere.edu/nntp}[*] Alternatively, if the nntp-server variable is set, your news-collections will default to NNTP access from the same server. 3. Via IMAP. Your .newsrc file must be on the machine where news is stored. Assuming news is stored on the machine news.nowhere.edu, a typical .pinerc entry would be: news-collections=News *{news.nowhere.edu}[*] The advantage of option #3 is that the same .newsrc can be used for both Unix Pine and PC-Pine. The disadvantage is that you must have an account on the machine that stores the news and runs the NNTP server. ------------ Content-Description: Can I post news with Pine? Subject: Can I post news with Pine? Versions of Pine prior to Pine 3.90 do not support posting. In Pine 3.90 and later you can enter a list of newsgroups on the newsgrps: header to post a message. ------------ Content-Description: How do I "paste" an address from the addressbook into the text of a message? Subject: How do I "paste" an address from the addressbook into the text of a message? Pine does not currently support this directly, but here is a work-around: 1. Move the cursor to the Cc: line. 2. Enter the nickname or press Ctrl-T to search the addressbook and select the entry. 3. Use Ctrl-K to delete that address from the Cc: line. 4. Move the cursor where you want it in the body of the message. 5. Press Ctrl-U to insert the address. This is kind of a round-about way to get the job done, but it works... ------------ Content-Description: How can I filter messages into different incoming folders? Subject: How can I filter messages into different incoming folders? Pine does not do delivery filtering. That function is done by other programs, such as "procmail", or "filter" or "deliver". Once you have set-up your delivery filtering, e.g. via the "filter" program, then you will have new mail arriving in several different mailboxes/folders, in addition to your INBOX. So then the question becomes, how do you access those new "incoming message" folders that your favorite delivery filter program has created? Pine's answer is to let you specify them in your .pinerc, as in the example: incoming-folders=Art151 {warhol.art.nowhere.edu}filter/to-art151, Art-L {warhol.art.nowhere.edu}filter/to-Art-L, Old-Student-Acct {fozzie.elsewhere.edu}INBOX In this case, the pinerc entries presume that your delivery filtering program has been configured to put mail relating to the Art151 class into the folder "filter/to-art151" and mail relating to the Art-L mailing list into "filter/to-Art-L". From the Folders List screen, you can then easily access those folders. Eventually we will have a way to indicate which of these may have new mail waiting for you, so that you don't "forget" that you have more than one place to look for new mail... ------------ Content-Description: Can I define a Reply-To: header? Subject: Can I define a Reply-To: header? Yes. This is a new feature of Pine 3.90. It is handled as a "custom header" and can be added into that field via Pine's new configuration screen. ------------ Content-Description: Can I execute Pine from a shell script so I can use my addressbook? Subject: Can I execute Pine from a shell script so I can use my addressbook? Not currently. ------------ Content-Description: When I get new mail, xbiff lets me know about it, but pine doesn't know about it. Subject: When I get new mail, xbiff lets me know about it, but pine doesn't know about it. There are currently two ways to force a new mail check. * At the last message in a folder, press 'N' 4-5 times. * Press `Ctrl-L' (Refresh Display). ------------ Content-Description: How can I read a ROT13 encoded message? Subject: How can I read a ROT13 encoded message? When viewing the message, use the '|' (Pipe) command and give it the following: tr '[A-Za-z]' '[N-ZA-Mn-za-m]' -------------- --========== Content-Description: Installation and Configuration Content-Type: MULTIPART/DIGEST; BOUNDARY="----------" Subject: Installation and Configuration INSTALLATION AND CONFIGURATION ------------ Content-Description: Can Kerberos or AFS authentication be used with Pine? Subject: Can Kerberos or AFS authentication be used with Pine? Not yet, but Kerberos support is planned for a future release of Pine. If you have access to Kerberos or AFS compatible IMAP clients already, the following information may be useful. The current version of imapd does not support AFS or Kerberos authentication. However, the routine which validates authentication is designed as a drop-in module, to allow you to replace with alternative authentication schemes such as AFS, Kerberos, S/Key, etc. This routine is server_login(). Depending upon which version of c-client you have, it is either in the os__xxx_.c (where _xxx_ is the name of your port) or it is in a file named log__yyy_.c which is included by the os_xxx.c file. The log__yyy_.c is usually log_std.c (std for "standard UNIX"), but it may be log_sv4.c (SVR4) or a couple of other variants. This file only contains that one routine, so it should be a simple matter to modify that file and rebuild imapd. ------------ Content-Description: Can PC-Pine be used with a POP server? Subject: Can PC-Pine be used with a POP server? No. Neither Pine nor PC-Pine currently support POP's offline mail model (wherein pending mail is pulled from the mail server to the local machine and deleted from the server). However, it is likely that this model will be supported, with a choice of either IMAP or POP as the access protocol, in a future release. ------------ Content-Description: What is a Tenex mailbox and why should I use it? Subject: What is a Tenex mailbox and why should I use it? Using the Tenex format for INBOXes allows multiple sessions (or mulitple users, subject to the usual access controls) to have *almost* full Read-Write access to the INBOX. The only limitation on full RW access is that if there are multiple sessions at a given moment, no one can do an Expunge. However, message state changes (e.g. marking a msg as deleted) *can* be done, and this state is preserved across sessions. If an explicit Expunge cmd fails, it will say so and tell you that the mailbox is in use by another process. When there is only one session left using that mailbox, expunge will resume working again. In contrast: the normal Berkeley style folders can have only one RW client at a time, so _given the current software_ the latest session steals the RW lock away from any previous session, with the earlier session becoming RO. ------------ Content-Description: Where does Unix Pine look for configuration information? Subject: Where does Unix Pine look for configuration information? In Pine 3.90, the Release Notes (Press "R" on the Main Menu) contain a section on Configuration, including default file names and environment variables. In brief, Unix Pine uses three configuration files: a system-wide file /usr/local/lib/pine.conf, a system-wide non-overridable file /usr/local/lib/pine.fixed, and a personal configuration file ~/.pinerc. There are certain options which are only found in system wide configurations, others only found in personal configurations, and still others found in both. For settings found in both pine.conf and .pinerc, values in .pinerc take precedence over those in pine.conf, and settings in pine.conf.fixed take precedence over everything. If you need to generate a "blank" copy of the system wide configuration files, run "pine -conf > /usr/local/lib ". Pine automatically generates a .pinerc when a user starts Pine for the first time. Starting with Pine 3.90, almost all personal configuration can be accomplished through the _SETUP_ command from the main menu. ------------ Content-Description: Where does PC-Pine look for configuration information? Subject: Where does PC-Pine look for configuration information? In Pine 3.90, the Release Notes (Press "R" on the Main Menu) contain a section on Configuration, including default file names and environment variables. In brief, PC-Pine uses the following rules for finding config and support files: 1. The location of the PINERC is searched for in the following order of precedence: 1. File pointed to by PINERC environment variable 2. $HOME\PINE\PINERC 3. A file named PINERC in the same directory as PINE.EXE 2. The HOME environment variable, if not set, defaults to root of the current working drive. 3. The default for external files (PINE.SIG and ADDRBOOK) is the same directory as the PINERC file. 4. The support files (PINE.HLP and PINE.NDX) are searched for in the same directory as PINE.EXE. Starting with Pine 3.90, almost all personal configuration can be accomplished through the _SETUP_ command from the main menu. ------------ Content-Description: How do I make Pine work with my older terminal? Subject: How do I make Pine work with my older terminal? Pine does not support some older terminals (e.g. tvi925, WYSE-60) very well. Some problems can be overcome with a proper termcap entry, but others, such as handling cursor keys, do not have a good solution. ------------ Content-Description: How do I configure Pine to not leave mail in /usr/spool/mail? Subject: How do I configure Pine to not leave mail in /usr/spool/mail? You have several options: 1. Leave inbox in /usr/spool/mail, but turn on the Pine option to prompt users to move read messages to a folder in their home directory upon exiting Pine. 2. Modify your mail delivery program to deliver mail directly into the user's home directory, and specify that inbox-path in your global pine.conf (See the "tmail" program on ftp.cac.washington.edu for an example.) 3. "touch mail.txt" in each home directory, which will cause Pine (upon startup) to pull mail from /usr/spool/mail into ~/mail.txt -- however, mail.txt will be a Tenex-format, rather than Berkeley mail format folder (faster, but non-standard). 4. Link in the "mbox" driver when you build Pine. This driver will (upon Pine startup) pull mail from /usr/spool/mail into ~/mbox, which will be a Bky-format folder. -------------- --========== Content-Description: Conversions Content-Type: MULTIPART/DIGEST; BOUNDARY="----------" Subject: Conversions CONVERSIONS ------------ Content-Description: How can someone without a MIME-aware mail program decipher an attachment? Subject: How can someone without a MIME-aware mail program decipher an attachment? Regarding attachments: Pine uses the MIME Internet standard for this. MIME (Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions) uses "Base64" encoding rather than uuencode, because uuencode uses characters that are transformed by some email gateways, and there are also several incompatible versions of uuencode. However, you can certainly uuencode a file outside of pine, then use the Composer's Ctrl-R (file inclusion) command to insert the encoded file in the message. If you use Pine's attachment feature, your recipient does need to have MIME-capable software. Fortunately, this is not hard to find. Even the major proprietary mail vendors have committed to MIME support, but some of their upgraded products are still some months away. One product which can decipher a MIME attachment is munpack from Carnegie Mellon. It is available from ftp.andrew.cmu.edu in the /pub/mpack directory. ------------ Content-Description: How do I convert a Sun Mailtool attachment to MIME format? Subject: How do I convert a Sun Mailtool attachment to MIME format? A perl script (and conversion to C of same) that converts OpenWindows mail to MIME. Body parts currently supported are: text, gif, Sun rasterfile (converted to image/gif), postscript, and audio. Other types default to application/octet-stream. It's easy to extend the set of types supported and to add conversions, if necessary. The script requires uuencode, uudecode, zcat (aka uncompress), and the "convert" program from ImageMagick. If you don't have ImageMagick you can probably substitute the pbm stuff with little fuss. The program is available via ftp from cs.utk.edu in pub/MIME/sun-to-mime.perl or pub/MIME/sun-to-mime.c _[Keith Moore ]_ ------------ Content-Description: How do I convert Berkeley Mail aliases to Pine Addressbook? Subject: How do I convert Berkeley Mail aliases to Pine Addressbook? The Pine source distribution includes a shell script to do this in the contrib/utils directory. It is called brk2pine.sh. ------------ Content-Description: How do I convert Elm aliases to Pine Addressbook? Subject: How do I convert Elm aliases to Pine Addressbook? Here's a little script one of our UNIX folks worked up to handle conversion of elm aliases to pine alias form (pretty simple syntax substitution). If you execute it multiple times it will keep adding another set of your elm aliases to your pine addressbook. #!/bin/csh #!/bin/csh -vx # convert elm aliases.text to pine addressbook # Greg Gustafson # UMD Information Services # January 1993 # if -r $HOME/.elm/aliases.text then if -e $HOME/.addressbook then set n=1 while (-e $HOME/.addressbook$n) @ n++ end mv $HOME/.addressbook $HOME/.addressbook$n endif ex - $HOME/.elm/aliases.text _[Joel Ness ]_ -------------- --========== Content-Description: Development Info Content-Type: MULTIPART/DIGEST; BOUNDARY="----------" Subject: Development Info DEVELOPMENT INFO ------------ Content-Description: What are the current versions of Pine and related software? Subject: What are the current versions of Pine and related software? The current version of Pine is 3.90. The current version of Pico is 2.4. ------------ Content-Description: What is new in this version of Pine? Subject: What is new in this version of Pine? These are the changes and improvements since Pine 3.89: * Finished all the "Not implemented yet" commands: + Bounce (Remail) + Flag (Set message status) + Pipe (Pipe msg to external cmd; Unix only) + Select,Apply,Zoom (Aggregate operations) + Setup/Config (Pinerc configuration screen) * News posting * News subscription/unsubscription * Multiple address books * Postpone multiple messages * Customizable headers for Composer * Mailcap support * Improved support for multiple incoming message folders * enable-alternate-editor-implicitly feature (except for editing headers) * All .pinerc features now settable from command line * Way to control which options are user-configurable (Unix only) * Way to have Save *not* implicitly delete * Way to use current-working-directory for Export, Read File, etc. * A _preliminary_ version of PC-Pine for Windows/Winsock (but not OS/2) ------------ Content-Description: When is the next release of Pine (tentatively) scheduled? Subject: When is the next release of Pine (tentatively) scheduled? We don't know right now, we just released this version. Besides, our track-record on meeting projected release schedules is terrible, so you shouldn't believe any dates we are foolish enough to suggest anyway. ------------ Content-Description: What new features will the future releases of Pine include? Subject: What new features will the future releases of Pine include? * Additional MIME support, esp. controlling file TYPING * PEM and/or PGP support * External directory services access * Kerberos support * RFC 1522 header encoding for 8bit character sets * Location independence of support files * Offline support * Hierarchy support (awaits IMAP4) * Answered flag not set if Reply is postponed (awaits IMAP4) * Faster detection of folders with Recent messages (awaits IMAP4) * Faster fetching of headers (awaits IMAP4) * Determination of which flags are permanent (awaits IMAP4) -------------- --==========-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 15:23:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05279; Mon, 29 Aug 94 15:23:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15148; Mon, 29 Aug 94 15:20:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15136; Mon, 29 Aug 94 15:20:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfEk6-00000MC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 14:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ericr@access3.digex.net (Eric Rosenberg) Subject: Pine and Novell Date: 29 Aug 1994 14:45:11 -0400 Message-Id: A while back, I mentioned that there was some weird keyboard mapping going one between our Novell LAN and Pine (which runs on an Aplle Quadra). Basically speaking, ^J and ^M were confused, and if you're not careful, everything gets word-wrapped. Has anyone found a fix for this? Words to the effect that it was a Novell problem came this way, but Novell didn't seem terribly responsive. Has anyone else run into this problem, and found a fix? The newest LAN Workplace for DOS doesn't include a telnet upgrade (the assumption is that the telnet module needs fixing). Please send your responses directly! Eric ericr@vita.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 15:32:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05895; Mon, 29 Aug 94 15:32:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15551; Mon, 29 Aug 94 15:28:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15545; Mon, 29 Aug 94 15:28:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfEvo-000008C; Mon, 29 Aug 94 15:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nelson CHIN Subject: make errors in solaris Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 15:54:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII can someone help me with this, which i'm trying to build on a solaris: Making Pine. cc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" -c addrbook.c "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 171: identifier redeclared: rename current : function(pointer to char, pointer to char) returning int previous: function(pointer to const char, pointer to const char) returning int : "/usr/include/stdio.h", line 112 "addrbook.c", line 2394: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "addrbook.c", line 2400: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "addrbook.c", line 2569: warning: semantics of "/" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "addrbook.c", line 2579: warning: semantics of "/" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "addrbook.c", line 2591: warning: semantics of "/" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "addrbook.c", line 3729: cannot recover from previous errors cc: acomp failed for addrbook.c *** Error code 2 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `addrbook.o' Links to executables are in bin directory: size: bin/pine: cannot open bin/mtest: 515008 + 26360 + 1904 = 543272 bin/imapd: 542656 + 28392 + 9084 = 580132 bin/pico: 124812 + 24604 + 8260 = 157676 Done From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 15:41:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06269; Mon, 29 Aug 94 15:41:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15539; Mon, 29 Aug 94 15:37:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15533; Mon, 29 Aug 94 15:37:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfF1r-00000PC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 15:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Getting Rid of Prompt in PINE.. Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 13:47:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <33tcfr$m9s@newstand.syr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <33tcfr$m9s@newstand.syr.edu> Pine does not care whether you have new mail when you start. You are probably seeing a prompt from a script that your system administrators have wrapped around Pine... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 29 Aug 1994, Vorpal Bunny wrote: > > We're using v3.89 at Syracuse, and it prompts you each time > you're using PINE if you don't have new mail...you have to say yes or > no as to whether or not you want to use PINE. This is an annoyance > and it slows down the loading up of PINE noticeably. Can I remove > this prompt somehow? > > -- > /--------------------------------------------------------------\ \\ \\ > |(C) This Post/Letter is Copyrighted 1994, And it's MINE!MINE! | \\-\\ > |Now I'm Going Back to Bed... *Keeper of the Forbush Man Flame*| ( X-X) YAWN > \--------------------------------------------------------------/ {_^_} _/ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 15:55:56 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06848; Mon, 29 Aug 94 15:55:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16116; Mon, 29 Aug 94 15:52:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16109; Mon, 29 Aug 94 15:52:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfFGO-000008C; Mon, 29 Aug 94 15:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: holee@mailbox.syr.edu (Vorpal Bunny(Bored)) Subject: Getting Rid of Prompt in PINE.. Date: 29 Aug 1994 19:21:31 GMT Message-Id: <33tcfr$m9s@newstand.syr.edu> We're using v3.89 at Syracuse, and it prompts you each time you're using PINE if you don't have new mail...you have to say yes or no as to whether or not you want to use PINE. This is an annoyance and it slows down the loading up of PINE noticeably. Can I remove this prompt somehow? -- /--------------------------------------------------------------\ \\ \\ |(C) This Post/Letter is Copyrighted 1994, And it's MINE!MINE! | \\-\\ |Now I'm Going Back to Bed... *Keeper of the Forbush Man Flame*| ( X-X) YAWN \--------------------------------------------------------------/ {_^_} _/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 16:03:38 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07238; Mon, 29 Aug 94 16:03:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16095; Mon, 29 Aug 94 15:59:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16089; Mon, 29 Aug 94 15:59:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfFMy-00000MC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 15:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: pine-bin.a32 - does binary use termcap or curses lib ? Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 12:15:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <199408282152.AA17113@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199408282152.AA17113@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU> The default is currently "-lcurses". |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 28 Aug 1994, Steven D. Majewski wrote: > > Is the RS6000/AIX binary of pine 3.90 ( pine-bin.a32 ) now built > with -lcurses or -ltermcap ? > > I had to rebuild 3.89 with termcap to eliminate the screen locking > problem. Has the default changed on 3.90 ? > > > - Steve Majewski (804-982-0831) > - UVA Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 16:04:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07280; Mon, 29 Aug 94 16:04:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16297; Mon, 29 Aug 94 15:59:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16291; Mon, 29 Aug 94 15:59:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfFNG-00000PC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 15:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: ";" in pine-3.90 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 12:19:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <33t1r7$2ga5@auriga.unm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <33t1r7$2ga5@auriga.unm.edu> Well, "+" is not really a status flag, but more of a hint. You can do the equivalent by selecting by Text/To/yourself... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 29 Aug 1994, Farid Hamjavar wrote: > > Hello: > > > If I can use ";" now that I have pine-3.90, then > how come I can not select messages with "+"??? > It seems that "S" pretty much covers all other > status codes but not this one!!!! > > > Thanks, > Farid > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 16:24:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08071; Mon, 29 Aug 94 16:24:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16613; Mon, 29 Aug 94 16:20:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16607; Mon, 29 Aug 94 16:20:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfFh5-00000MC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 16:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wwar@lostlink.alt.za (Warwick Ward-Cox) Subject: Pine and Linux date problem Message-Id: <1994Aug29.135817.3395@lostlink.alt.za> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 13:58:17 GMT Hi, I seem to have a problem with my date that pine inserts in outgoing mail, my systems timezone is GMT+0200, but pine puts in my outgoing mail GMT+12000. My date is correct because if I use ELM or MAIL the date is correct. My system is Linux kernel 1.1.49 and pine v3.89. Any ideas. Thanks Warwick. -- --- --------------------------------------------------------------- | Warwick Ward-Cox Email : wwar@lostlink.alt.za | | Sysop of Lost Link Fidonet : 5:7102/134 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 16:44:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08749; Mon, 29 Aug 94 16:44:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17172; Mon, 29 Aug 94 16:37:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17164; Mon, 29 Aug 94 16:37:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfFxy-000008C; Mon, 29 Aug 94 16:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell) Subject: Re: pine-bin.a32 - does binary use termcap or curses lib ? Date: 29 Aug 1994 20:00:53 GMT Message-Id: <33tepl$scu@news.ysu.edu> References: <199408291706.AA25832@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU> Steven D. Majewski (sdm7g@elvis.med.virginia.edu) wrote: : I intended to cc this to the list, but I mistakenly entered the wrong : name at the right address. : Doug has since replied that a32 uses -lcurses, and changing it to : -ltermcap has fixed his problem. Before reading his reply, I tried Tentatively, anyway. It hasn't failed for me. We've released it for testing by the affected users and I'll know for sure by Friday (I've built both -lcurses and -ltermcap versions). : running the a32 pine binary - compose worked find, but when I tried : 'forward' ( to resend the message below ) or 'reply' ( to Doug's : message ) it locked up on me. : So, it looks like it is -lcurses, but ought to be -ltermcap ! IBM reps have admitted (in c.u.aix) that their curses library is seriously broken... and this hasn't helped my most computer-naive users, who are the very ones that pine is perfect for (I can't wait to see how they react to reading news with pine, I think they'll like it...) -- Doug Sewell (doug@cc.ysu.edu) Left alle... what ?! http://cc.ysu.edu/1/doug de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner -- Bill Gunshannon, bill@cs.uofs.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 17:05:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10011; Mon, 29 Aug 94 17:05:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17457; Mon, 29 Aug 94 16:59:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17451; Mon, 29 Aug 94 16:58:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfGGf-000008C; Mon, 29 Aug 94 16:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "John N. Underwood" Subject: Re: A plea to pine team (Re: Annoying .pine-debug## files) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 16:25:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994Aug29.112506.25889@cc.usu.edu> On 29 Aug 1994, Brandon Gillespie wrote: > I'm sorry, but out of all the nice things the pine people have done, this > seems extremely ridiculous to release a binary to the world with debug > options turned ON. If I wanted to compile it myself, I would, but the idea > with getting a pre-compiled binary which WORKS, not which is in debug mode. > I noticed they hadn't even stripped the binaries they have available. Well, let's see. You can use a command line argument to turn off the debug mode (READ the HELP pages). And yes, you can VERY easily strip the binaries. Now, why would they release a program with the debug mode on? Hmmm. Let's think about this. Maybe because it helps the pine team fix bugs? Yes that's it! That's one of the reasons Pine is so good--- lots of people help the pine team catch bugs and the .pine-debug files help them to fix the problem. Amazing isn't it? > When was the last time you saw a professional package released which had > debug options on and wasn't even stripped? Almost all of the binaries I download haven't been stripped. And I just WISH other programmers would release their products with debug mode turned on (and with a nice way to turn it off on the command line). Bugs and bug fixes would be found much more quickly. This "professional" package is free and the developers are obviously committed to maintaining it (fixing bugs and listening to the users comments and questions). Next time, please ask WHY something was done rather than whining about it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- John N. Underwood junderw@cs.clemson.edu - http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~junderw/junderw.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Science is what happens when preconception meets verification. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 17:14:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10872; Mon, 29 Aug 94 17:14:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18101; Mon, 29 Aug 94 17:07:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17953; Mon, 29 Aug 94 17:05:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfGNw-00000MC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 16:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: btv@ldl.HealthPartners.COM (Bryan Vold) Subject: Re: Garbage in Pico editor. Date: 29 Aug 1994 15:11:31 -0500 Message-Id: <33tfdj$3vk@ldl.HealthPartners.COM> References: <33gn07$j4h@potogold.rmii.com> <1994Aug26.024718.8173@pshrink.chi.il.us> In article <1994Aug26.024718.8173@pshrink.chi.il.us>, Steven King [Really!] wrote: >mckinsey@rmii.com (Scott Mckinsey) publicly declared: >>I have the pine-3.89 package, and am using linux 1.1.45 with ncurses 1.8.5 >>The problem is that in the upper left hand corner of Pico is one >>character of garbage. I think the same thing was happening with ncurses >>1.8.1. I've recompiled with no effect. >> >>Anyone seen this? > >Yes, I see it too. On my system it manifests itself as a reverse-video >comma. It doesn't affect anything though, so I haven't worried about it. > >-- >Steven King, Proprietor of the PShrink Wrap BBS veck@pshrink.chi.il.us >>> The Bumpy Two-Track Dirt Frontage Road << 14400 data & fax: >>> Next To The Information Superhighway << +1 708 487 9727 Add: || linux to the define on line 916 of display.c (it's an MS-DOS define). Cheers, -Bryan Vold -- btv@ldl.healthpartners.com "The relentless pursuit of perfection" Linux -- The Choice of a GNU Generation "Make it so, Number One." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 17:19:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11023; Mon, 29 Aug 94 17:19:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18029; Mon, 29 Aug 94 17:12:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from faxon.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18017; Mon, 29 Aug 94 17:12:49 -0700 Received: by faxon.ca (5.4R2.01/192.139.186.253) id AA24663; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 20:09:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 20:09:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Dion Vansevenant To: Pine Messages Subject: Accessing newsgroups Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ok, first things first. What a release! Pine Team, you done good! ;-) I had a bit of a problem at first with my Incoming folders and my personal addressbook, (turns out 3.90 doesn't like $HOME/Mail/Incoming/, it would only accept Mail/Incoming/. This may cause a problem.), but now everything appears to be working well. Once I release this to my users then we'll see just how good it is. I'm sure they will like the fact that they can edit their .pinerc files themselves. Now the only problem is figuring out how to give them their own .pinerc file (currently they share one). At any rate, I would very much like to start accessing some newgroups via IMAP (I can't get NNTP to work yet) but I do not know how. Could someone please tell me? I've got a news collection created, now I just need some newgroups. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. TIA. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 18:33:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13077; Mon, 29 Aug 94 18:33:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19190; Mon, 29 Aug 94 18:27:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19178; Mon, 29 Aug 94 18:27:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfHjJ-000008C; Mon, 29 Aug 94 18:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andy.Behrens@coat.com Subject: Re: Extra mail? Deleted mail? Date: 29 Aug 1994 22:17:17 GMT Message-Id: <33tmpd$m8r@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> References: Dave King suggests that multiple copies of mail on a Sequent system may be due to stray .lock files: > Sequent's implementation of the "mail" program (the program that actually > delivers mail messages to /usr/mail (/usr/spool/mail on DYNIX 3.1.2?) does > not handle mailings very well to more than one person (multiple names in > To: CC: or Bcc:) *if* one of the destination usernames has a .lock file > existing when /bin/mail tries to write to that person's mailbox. If that is the problem, there's an *easy* fix. Just edit the sendmail.cf file and change the "local delivery mailer" description from Mlocal, P=/bin/mail, F=lsDFMmnP, S=10, R=20, A=mail -r $f -d $u to Mlocal, P=/bin/mail, F=lsDFMnP, S=10, R=20, A=mail -r $f -d $u The "m" flag in the mailer description tells sendmail that this mailer is able to deliver to multiple users in one transaction. If you take out the "m" flag, sendmail will run /bin/mail separately for each user who's getting mail. Andy -- Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. (Anne Herbert) Andy Behrens Burlington Coat Factory, Schoolhouse Lane, Etna, N.H. 03750 (603) 643-2800 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 18:35:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13154; Mon, 29 Aug 94 18:35:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19223; Mon, 29 Aug 94 18:30:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from atlantic by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19217; Mon, 29 Aug 94 18:30:38 -0700 Received: by atlantic (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA12277; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 21:31:38 +0500 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 21:31:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lisa M. Frye" Subject: Checking password file To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 586 I saw something on this list last week and did not think I needed it. Turns out I do. I use only our domain name for our e-mail addresses. Is there something that can be set, so the password file is checked (and names are expanded)? Thanks in Advance for help! Lisa Frye frye@kutztown.edu Network Software Specialist LMS Annex Room 105 Kutztown University phone: 610-683-4474 Kutztown, PA. 19530 fax: 610-683-4634 "You can bring a person to the university, but you can't make him think." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 18:55:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13676; Mon, 29 Aug 94 18:55:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19687; Mon, 29 Aug 94 18:50:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19679; Mon, 29 Aug 94 18:50:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfI0J-000008C; Mon, 29 Aug 94 18:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bambi@kirk.Bond.edu.au (David J. Hughes) Subject: Re: A plea to pine team (Re: Annoying .pine-debug## files) Date: 30 Aug 1994 08:37:15 +1000 Message-Id: <33tnur$egi@kirk.Bond.edu.au> References: <1994Aug29.112506.25889@cc.usu.edu> On 29 Aug 1994, Brandon Gillespie wrote: > When was the last time > you saw a professional package released which had debug options on and wasn't > even stripped? Last time I saw unstripped binaries? How about Ingres! I "found" about 20 meg of disk on our student comp-sci machine by stripping Ingres. To the pine team - keep up the good work. __ David J. Hughes - Bambi@Bond.edu.au / \ / / / http://Bond.edu.au/People/bambi.html /___/ __ _ ____/ / / _ / \ / \ / \ / / / / / \ / Senior Network Programmer, Bond University \___/ \__// / \__/ \__/ / / / Qld. 4229 AUSTRALIA (+61 75 951450) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 18:55:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13707; Mon, 29 Aug 94 18:55:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19527; Mon, 29 Aug 94 18:50:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19515; Mon, 29 Aug 94 18:50:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfI0L-00000ZC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 18:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rxr401 Subject: Re: Spruce (was PINE 3.90 is great) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 08:48:41 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 29 Aug 1994, Farid Hamjavar wrote: > Way to go..... > > PINE 3.90 is great. > How hard it is to compile on aix? Has anybody done so? > Is anybody out there using Spruce? Spruce is yet to be released. The author (Ian.Leiman@nokia.com) had intended to release it at the same time as Pine 3.90. But, as it is a single man project, the delay is understandable. Also, the first release of Spruce is supposed to be functionally equivalent to Pine 3.90. [Correct me if I'm wrong] On top of that motif-based interface design. What else one would want ? Raj Rajesh.Raj@anu.edu.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 19:23:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14624; Mon, 29 Aug 94 19:23:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19985; Mon, 29 Aug 94 19:17:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19979; Mon, 29 Aug 94 19:17:47 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA23100; Tue, 30 Aug 94 10:19:00 +0800 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 10:18:59 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Checking password file To: "Lisa M. Frye" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 29 Aug 1994, Lisa M. Frye wrote: > > I saw something on this list last week and did not think I needed it. > Turns out I do. I use only our domain name for our e-mail addresses. Is > there something that can be set, so the password file is checked (and > names are expanded)? Thanks in Advance for help! [X] user-lookup-even-if-domain-mismatch Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 19:40:58 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15053; Mon, 29 Aug 94 19:40:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20430; Mon, 29 Aug 94 19:35:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20424; Mon, 29 Aug 94 19:35:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfIhX-000008C; Mon, 29 Aug 94 19:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: Re: ...filters [FAQ] Message-Id: References: <33bk6r$b6m@xcalibur.IntNet.net> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 23:18:16 GMT Yes, as an end user of pine, with limmited knowledge of Unix, I will love ONE program that would let me do all of my mail houskeeping. But, alas, I can understand the point raised by those who consider pine an inapropiate (and inefective) way to filter mail. What we need is somebody that will take procmail and make it as user friendly as pine is... ?some unix guru listening out there? Shalom ve Tzedek Pucho (aka marcos) pucho@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 19:54:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15298; Mon, 29 Aug 94 19:54:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20458; Mon, 29 Aug 94 19:49:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20452; Mon, 29 Aug 94 19:49:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfIvl-00000VC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 19:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: amos@unt.edu (Amos A. Gouaux) Subject: Re: building pine on solaris 2.3 Date: 30 Aug 1994 00:15:14 GMT Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: mitch@unidata.ucar.edu's message of 29 Aug 94 20:02:13 GMT Mitch> has anyone managed to build pine on solaris 2.3 with the ansi Mitch> compiler? neither pico or pine will build. i tried using gcc Mitch> and pico would build, but pine still failed. To compile pine on Solaris using gcc: 1. Under the distribution source directory, edit pine/makefile.sol. Specify the following make variables: CC= gcc CFLAGS= -DSV4 $(OPTIMIZE) $(PROFILE) $(DEBUG) -ansi -DANSI -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" LDCC= gcc 2. In pine/osdep, edit the file os-sv4.h and make the following modifications: /*----------------- Are we ANSI? ---------------------------------------*/ #define ANSI /* this is an ANSI compiler */ /* #define const /* compiler doesn't support const */ 3. Under the distribution source directory, edit pico/makefile.sol. Specify the following make variables: CC= gcc LDCC= gcc CFLAGS= -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 19:55:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15370; Mon, 29 Aug 94 19:55:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20609; Mon, 29 Aug 94 19:49:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20603; Mon, 29 Aug 94 19:49:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfJ05-00000ZC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 19:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: riki@Hawaii.Edu (Riki Kurihara) Subject: Specifying INBOX dynamically in PCPINE Message-Id: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 23:45:23 GMT Is there a way that I can specify the INBOX in PC-PINE dynamically? For instance, I'd like to keep a bunch of PC's in the open lab where students can go and access their e-mail through PC-Pine and a IMAP server. Since we keep new mail in $HOME/Inbox is it possible for me to do... inbox-path={mailserver}$HOME/Inbox so that each individual won't have to manually specify the inbox path? I've looked through the docs but it's very limited for the PC-NFS version. -- Riki Kurihara Systems Administration Honolulu Community College Academic Computing From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 20:09:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15732; Mon, 29 Aug 94 20:09:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20567; Mon, 29 Aug 94 19:58:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20561; Mon, 29 Aug 94 19:58:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfJ7E-000008C; Mon, 29 Aug 94 19:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: Re: Off-Line PINE reader? Message-Id: References: <33gg0e$iva@clarknet.clark.net> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 23:36:42 GMT The Fatman (imran@clark.net) decia: : Is there an off-line PINE reader available? One that will : let me take all of my saved-messages and all that, download it to : my DOS system (non-networked), and read the letters one by one? : I tried PC-PINE, but the version I got required that you : be linked to a network. I can read the messages as one big : text file, but I'd rather read them as individual letters, sorted, : is there a program that'll let me do this? Yes fatman, there is... and is called Readmail... and it's *free* (like pine) is in any Simtel mirror site. the one that I use is oak.oakland.edu if you have lynx or any www tool the http is http://oak.oakland.edu/Simtel/msdos/textutil/ and the file name is RMAIL41.ZIP with gopher you can conect at: gopher gopher.oak.oakland.edu then choose #10, then #4 then #4 and then textutil and then rmail41.zip or, you can ftp to oak.oakland.edu, and do all the cd's btw, with readmail you can't trully "answer" your mail, but there are ways around it. I do that anyway using readmail ability to copy the mail in "answer format" (with >), and then I use pico, pine's editor that's included in all of the pcpine packages... If you need more info, feel free to write to me... from Los angeles Puchos (aka marcos) (pucho@netcom.com) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 20:53:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16624; Mon, 29 Aug 94 20:53:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21430; Mon, 29 Aug 94 20:47:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from nuxi.ucc.nau.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21423; Mon, 29 Aug 94 20:47:53 -0700 Received: (from jdc@localhost) by nuxi.ucc.nau.edu (8.6.9/2.2-nau) id UAA05769; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 20:45:47 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 20:45:47 -0700 (MST) From: John Campbell Subject: Re: make errors in solaris To: Nelson CHIN Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 29 Aug 1994, Nelson CHIN wrote: > can someone help me with this, which i'm trying to build on a solaris: > > Making Pine. > cc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" -c addrbook.c > "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 171: identifier redeclared: rename > current : function(pointer to char, pointer to char) returning int > previous: function(pointer to const char, pointer to const char) > returning int : "/usr/include/stdio.h", line 112 Here are some notes I wrote for pine3.89. They probably apply to pine3.90 as well (it's a solaris 2.3 bug--nothing wrong with pine): 7/27/94 jdc To build pine, I had to modify on this machine and remove the prototype for rename(). The man page for rename says it is defined in stdio.h, but the operating system had it defined in both places. Build steps: 1) Edit and comment out rename() prototype. . . . (Not relevant to the discussion) . . . So, try editing /usr/include/unistd.h on your machine and remove the prototype for rename (it's already in /usr/include/stdio.h). Then complain to your vendor about this... --- John Campbell John.Campbell@nau.edu JDC@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 22:19:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18986; Mon, 29 Aug 94 22:19:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22800; Mon, 29 Aug 94 22:13:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22792; Mon, 29 Aug 94 22:13:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfLDe-00000PC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 21:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: texmex@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Steve Patlan) Subject: Sendmail failure not noticed by Pine 3.90 Date: 29 Aug 1994 20:38:03 -0500 Message-Id: <33u2hr$7bt@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> I just tested a newly-compiled version of Pine 3.90 on my (BSDI BSD/386) system. My "sendmail" is in /usr/sbin, but Pine is hardcoded to look in /usr/lib. A quick edit and rebuild will cure that problem, but I noticed that Pine did not pick up on the failure to send mail. The error message "/usr/lib/sendmail not found" would blap across the main menu, followed by the Pine message "Mail Sent". The debug file also indicated successful transmission when in fact nothing of the sort had occurred. So, should Pine notice that this didn't work? Isn't there a DOS-like completion code it can check? (But I guess a program that didn't run can't very well set that code, now can it?) ================================================================== Relevant portion of .pine-debug: Debug output of the Pine program (at debug level 2). Version 3.90 Mon Aug 29 20:02:26 1994 [SNIP!] ---- COMPOSE SCREEN (not in pico yet) ---- IMAP 20:2 8/29 mm_log babble: Find of mailbox outside context: /u/t/texmex/.pine-interrupted-mail === send called === Address book .addressbook (.addressbook) opened with 40 items new win size -----<24 80>------ === calling sendmail === Send SUCCESSFUL. To: texmex@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM Subject: Oh boy, once again Message ID: ================================================================== Steve Patlan -- texmex@starbase.neosoft.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 22:26:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19191; Mon, 29 Aug 94 22:26:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22805; Mon, 29 Aug 94 22:21:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22778; Mon, 29 Aug 94 22:21:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfLJF-000008C; Mon, 29 Aug 94 22:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mbas@callisto.unm.edu (i am me) Subject: PINE's followup Date: 30 Aug 1994 03:54:25 GMT Message-Id: <33uahh$meo@lynx.unm.edu> hi is there a way that pine will show when mail comes in realimte like elm does? thanks morris -- Internet: mbas@unm.edu Bitnet: mbas@bootes.bitnet ICBM: 35 05 04 N 106 39 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 22:34:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19446; Mon, 29 Aug 94 22:34:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23006; Mon, 29 Aug 94 22:28:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23000; Mon, 29 Aug 94 22:28:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfLUX-00000QC; Mon, 29 Aug 94 22:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jorlowsk@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Jason Orlowski) Subject: Pine for DYNIX/ptx(R) V4.0.0?? Date: 29 Aug 1994 20:52:25 -0600 Message-Id: <33u6t9$28s@nyx10.cs.du.edu> Has anyone been sucessful at building Pine 3.9 or any version for Dynix 4.0? If so, could you please email me the port. Thanks. Jason Orlowski From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 22:51:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19944; Mon, 29 Aug 94 22:51:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23142; Mon, 29 Aug 94 22:43:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23136; Mon, 29 Aug 94 22:43:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfLfd-000008C; Mon, 29 Aug 94 22:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ming-Yen Hsu Subject: Problem about my .procmailrc [filtering] Message-Id: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 11:58:28 +0800 (CST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Hi, I am impressed with the new features of Pine 3.90. However, I am confused by the procmail rcfile. My question is about the condition of "From". All I new mail with Subject "WWW comment" go into the right folder correctly, but the mail from my friend "jeff@somewhere" never get into the right place and keep in INBOX. Somebody help me! Thanks in advanced. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Please check if all the paths in PATH are reachable, remove the ones that # are not. PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/bin:/usr/local/bin:. MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail # You'd better make sure it exists DEFAULT=/usr/spool/mail/$USER :0: # Anything from thf * ^From.*jeff jeff # will go to $MAILDIR/todd :0:myfile * ^Subject:.*comment comments :0: * ^TOfvwm fvwm # Anything that has not been delivered by now will go to $DEFAULT # using LOCKFILE=$DEFAULT$LOCKEXT ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Ming-Yen, Database Lab. ---------- giving you the best that I got -- Computer Science & Information Eng. voice: ........ 886-3-4227151x4504 National Central University, Taiwan fax: ........ 886-3-4227151x4508 -- MIME and BIG5 accepted ---------- email: .. myhsu@db39.ee.ncu.edu.tw From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 23:18:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20674; Mon, 29 Aug 94 23:18:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23505; Mon, 29 Aug 94 23:10:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23499; Mon, 29 Aug 94 23:10:22 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA26609; Tue, 30 Aug 94 14:11:39 +0800 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 14:11:38 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: PINE's followup To: i am me Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <33uahh$meo@lynx.unm.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 30 Aug 1994, i am me wrote: > is there a way that pine will show when mail comes in realimte like elm does? > thanks I didn't think elm shows mail arrival in "real time"...... But what you can do....if is that important....is to change the line #define NEW_MAIL_TIME (150) in the appropriate os-XXX.h file in the pine/osdep directory and recompile. 2.5 minutes doesn't seem like such a long time to wait for notification.... Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 23:20:47 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20733; Mon, 29 Aug 94 23:20:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23727; Mon, 29 Aug 94 23:13:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from eros.Britain.EU.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23721; Mon, 29 Aug 94 23:13:14 -0700 Received: from lor by eros.britain.eu.net with UUCP id ; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 07:12:51 +0100 Received: from lor by genasys.co.uk (5.0/SMI-4.1) id AA07516; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 06:59:36 +0000 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 06:59:35 +0100 (BST) From: "Michael J. Sheppard" X-Sender: mikes@lor To: cyl@ifcss.org Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: make errors in solaris In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1072 Nelson, On Mon, 29 Aug 1994, Nelson CHIN wrote: > can someone help me with this, which i'm trying to build on a solaris: > > Making Pine. > cc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" -c addrbook.c > "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 171: identifier redeclared: rename > current : function(pointer to char, pointer to char) returning int > previous: function(pointer to const char, pointer to const char) I had this problem and am using the binary I built after solving it. The Solaris build is setup to use the BSD compatible compiler under Solaris 2.2. I have Solaris 2.3 and the SunPro ANSI Compiler. My system is configured so that the default 'cc' command is the ANSI one, this does not like addrbook.c at all. To get it to compile I forced it to use the BSD compiler by adding the following line to makefile.sol. CC=/usr/ucb/bin Using this pine builds without warnings. BTW. Everything else builds fine with the ANSI compiler. Regards, Mike E-mail : michael.sheppard@genasys.co.uk Voice : +44.(0)61.232.9444 Fax : +44.(0)61.232.9453 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 00:15:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22016; Tue, 30 Aug 94 00:15:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24448; Tue, 30 Aug 94 00:07:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from weber.ucsd.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24442; Tue, 30 Aug 94 00:07:51 -0700 Received: from localhost (corrigan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by weber.ucsd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA08827; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 00:06:57 -0700 Message-Id: <199408300706.AAA08827@weber.ucsd.edu> To: Ming-Yen Hsu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Reply-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problem about my .procmailrc [filtering] In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 30 Aug 1994 11:58:28 +0800." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Id: <8823.778230415.1@weber.ucsd.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 00:06:56 -0700 From: "Michael J. Corrigan" Try: :0: # Anything from thf * ^From.*jeff.* jeff # will go to $MAILDIR/todd > Hi, > I am impressed with the new features of Pine 3.90. However, I am confused > by the procmail rcfile. > > My question is about the condition of "From". All I new mail with Subject > "WWW comment" go into the right folder correctly, but the mail from my > friend "jeff@somewhere" never get into the right place and keep in INBOX. > > Somebody help me! Thanks in advanced. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > # Please check if all the paths in PATH are reachable, remove the ones that > # are not. > > PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/bin:/usr/local/bin:. > MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail # You'd better make sure it exists > DEFAULT=/usr/spool/mail/$USER > > :0: # Anything from thf > * ^From.*jeff > jeff # will go to $MAILDIR/todd > > :0:myfile > * ^Subject:.*comment > comments > > :0: > * ^TOfvwm > fvwm > > # Anything that has not been delivered by now will go to $DEFAULT > # using LOCKFILE=$DEFAULT$LOCKEXT > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- Ming-Yen, Database Lab. ---------- giving you the best that I got -- > Computer Science & Information Eng. voice: ........ 886-3-4227151x4504 > National Central University, Taiwan fax: ........ 886-3-4227151x4508 > -- MIME and BIG5 accepted ---------- email: .. myhsu@db39.ee.ncu.edu.tw > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 00:24:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22203; Tue, 30 Aug 94 00:24:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24387; Tue, 30 Aug 94 00:16:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from zeus.datasrv.co.il by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24381; Tue, 30 Aug 94 00:16:36 -0700 Received: from elexmgw.elex.co.il by zeus.datasrv.co.il with SMTP id AA12591 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 30 Aug 1994 09:17:24 +0200 Received: from elex.co.il (tlhuph12) by elexmgw.elex.co.il (4.1/SMI-4.1-allowed) id AA00391; Tue, 30 Aug 94 07:58:51 IST Received: from sysdep.elex.co.il (tlrhp01.elex.co.il) by elex.co.il with ESMTP (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA294446376; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 07:59:37 +0200 Received: from tlhuph07 by sysdep.elex.co.il with SMTP (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA012396406; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 08:00:06 +0200 Received: by tlhuph07 (1.37.109.4/15.6) id AA01344; Tue, 30 Aug 94 07:59:19 +0200 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 07:57:42 -0200 (IST) From: "ELEX.Kogan.Alex" To: Pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII subscribe pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 00:28:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22280; Tue, 30 Aug 94 00:28:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24663; Tue, 30 Aug 94 00:23:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24657; Tue, 30 Aug 94 00:23:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfNDn-00000QC; Tue, 30 Aug 94 00:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tonyl@au.mdis.com (Tony Lorimer) Subject: Re: One problem (was Re: Pine 3.90 is out!!!) Date: 30 Aug 1994 05:19:30 GMT Message-Id: <33ufh2$6dm@tardis.au.mdis.com> References: <33ms30$evg@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu> R. Stewart Ellis (ellis@nova.gmi.edu) wrote: : setspike@mcl.ucsb.edu (Jason Pascual) writes: : >For those of you not on the mailing list, Pine 3.90 is available. I just ^^^^^^^^^^^^ How do I get onto this mailing list [stuffed deleted] \|/ @ @ ---------------------------------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo----------- Tony Lorimer (tlorimer@au.mdis.com) Phone: +612 4365700 MDIS - McDonnell Information Systems Pty Ltd Fax : +612 4392439 Sydney Australia Voice: +612 4365751 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 01:01:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23351; Tue, 30 Aug 94 01:01:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24869; Tue, 30 Aug 94 00:54:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24863; Tue, 30 Aug 94 00:54:21 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA27698; Tue, 30 Aug 94 15:54:57 +0800 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 15:54:56 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Problem about my .procmailrc [filtering] To: Ming-Yen Hsu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 30 Aug 1994, Ming-Yen Hsu wrote: > Hi, > I am impressed with the new features of Pine 3.90. However, I am confused > by the procmail rcfile. > > My question is about the condition of "From". All I new mail with Subject > "WWW comment" go into the right folder correctly, but the mail from my > friend "jeff@somewhere" never get into the right place and keep in INBOX. > > Somebody help me! Thanks in advanced. Hi, > :0: # Anything from thf > * ^From.*jeff > jeff # will go to $MAILDIR/todd If you check the procmailex.5 man page you will note on page two it has some information if your system does not generate "correct" leading "From " lines. This is what I suspect is happening.... One thing you can do is to try to match on ^From:.*jeff and see what happens. I believe this will match the "From:" line instead of the "From " line. Since the "From " line comes before the "From:" line I think procmail is terminating when it does not find the pattern in the "From " line. Then again....since I've only started to use procmail.....I could easily be wrong. :-( You could also do what is suggested in the man page. If you don't have the man pages available let me know and I'll email them to you. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 01:15:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23804; Tue, 30 Aug 94 01:15:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25114; Tue, 30 Aug 94 01:06:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25108; Tue, 30 Aug 94 01:06:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfNtt-00000MC; Tue, 30 Aug 94 00:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Compiling PINE on AIX Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 23:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Is this a system that Pine 3.89 compiled incorrectly on? We would be interested to hear about success or failure on systems that had problems with 3.89... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 29 Aug 1994, -sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. wrote: > > Well, I just compiled PINE 3.90 on someone else's account that's on a AIX > system (RS/6000) and it's version 3.2... So far, there hasn't been any > problems. The same can be said for LINUX and SunOS4.13. > > John "Highway" Wu | "To every thing there is a season, | Alpha Phi Omega > highway@w3eax.umd.edu | and a time to every purpose under | Svc Fraternity > 124 Englefield Drive | the heaven: A time to be born, | Univ of Maryland > Gaithersburg, MD 20878 | and a time to die;" Eccles 3:1,2 | College Park, MD > *----------------------*------------------------------------*----------------* > | " ... Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman | > | without the man, in the Lord. For as the woman is of the man, even so | > | is the man also by the woman; but all things of God. " 1 Cor 11:11,12 | > *----------------------------------------------------------------------------* > | WWW - http://www.wam.umd.edu/~highway (daily modifications) | > *----------------------------------------------------------------------------* > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 01:56:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24809; Tue, 30 Aug 94 01:56:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25960; Tue, 30 Aug 94 01:51:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25954; Tue, 30 Aug 94 01:51:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfOdV-00000bC; Tue, 30 Aug 94 01:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: njh@physiol.ox.ac.uk (Neil Hoggarth) Subject: Re: ...filters [FAQ] Message-Id: <1994Aug30.075719.14577@huxley.physiol.ox.ac.uk> References: <33bk6r$b6m@xcalibur.IntNet.net> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 07:57:19 GMT In article , R. Stewart Ellis wrote: >ALL of the UNIX editors I use do word wrap: JOVE, Joe, pico, jed, GNU EMACS. >I have spent less than a total of 2 hours of time in vi in over 9 years of >heavy UNIX use. And (getting totaly off topic :-) ) one can make Vi wordwrap too. Regards, -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neil Hoggarth Computer Officer, Laboratory of Physiology Oxford University, UK --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 01:59:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24874; Tue, 30 Aug 94 01:59:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25762; Tue, 30 Aug 94 01:54:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25750; Tue, 30 Aug 94 01:54:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfOgb-00000cC; Tue, 30 Aug 94 01:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@sarnode.saratov.su (Rashid Karimov) Subject: Re: libcrypt.a ? Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 07:17:21 GMT Message-Id: <1994Aug30.071721.5511@sarnode.saratov.su> References: <33sr48$1e3@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> Hi netters ! Eigil Krogh Sorensen (eks@vki68.aar-vki.dk) wrote: : While compiling Pine 3.90 on a SCO system I've run into the problem : there is no libcrypt.a on the SCO system. : Can libcrypt.a be found anywhere via ftp ? It's prohibited to ship crypt ( DES ?) software outside US. Some info on this could be found in SCO TechFAQ. As far as I remember there is so called "international crypt library" ( somewhat relaxed version ) somewhere at sosco.sco.com ( TLS ). SY RK From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 03:35:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27029; Tue, 30 Aug 94 03:35:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27145; Tue, 30 Aug 94 03:29:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27139; Tue, 30 Aug 94 03:29:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfQ9d-000008C; Tue, 30 Aug 94 03:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: myhsu@db39.ee.ncu.edu.tw (Ming-Yen Hsu) Subject: Re: Problem about my .procmailrc [filtering] Message-Id: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 09:49:20 GMT References: <199408300706.AAA08827@weber.ucsd.edu> >From: corrigan@ucsd.edu ("Michael J. Corrigan") >Try: >:0: # Anything from thf >* ^From.*jeff.* >jeff # will go to $MAILDIR/todd Thanks for your suggestion, but it didn't work :( -- Ming-Yen, Database Lab. ---------- giving you the best that I got -- Computer Science & Information Eng. voice: ........ 886-3-4227151x4504 National Central University, Taiwan fax: ........ 886-3-4227151x4508 -- MIME and BIG5 accepted ---------- email: .. myhsu@db39.ee.ncu.edu.tw From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 05:30:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00240; Tue, 30 Aug 94 05:30:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28521; Tue, 30 Aug 94 05:25:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from spark.NSPower.NS.Ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28515; Tue, 30 Aug 94 05:24:57 -0700 Received: by Spark.NSPower.NS.Ca (4.1/NSP-1.0) id AA00237; Tue, 30 Aug 94 09:23:52 ADT Received: from nspc04.nspower.ns.ca(142.67.23.19) by spark via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma000235; Tue Aug 30 09:23:36 1994 Received: from ns371.nspcplan (ns371) by NSPC04 (PMDF V4.3-7 #6827) id <01HGIK9WH180EPERVP@NSPC04>; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 09:22:27 AST Received: from ns3740.nspcplan by ns371.nspcplan (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09164; Tue, 30 Aug 94 09:24:15 ADT Received: by ns3740.nspcplan (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20132; Tue, 30 Aug 94 09:24:13 ADT Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 09:24:12 -0300 (ADT) From: "" Subject: 3.90 won't play my audio attachments :-( X-Sender: p95rc@ns3740 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT >From the user's perspective, there is one major difference from 3.89 to 3.90: the audio attachments that come with "torture-test.mbox" do not automatically play on the Sparcstations. Nothing special was needed for Pine 3.89, they just played. Now we get the error message: "Cannot display Audio/X-Sun attachment" I cannot find any reference to audio in the documents, but maybe I'm looking for the wrong thing. BTW, I put the following in the .pinerc to sucessfully view the gif files that are included with "torture-test.mbox": # Program to view images if format such as GIF and TIFF image-viewer=xv Regards, Robert W. Creighton, P.Eng. E-Mail: robert.creighton@nspower.ns.ca Sr. System Design Engineer Voice: (902) 428-6877 Nova Scotia Power, Inc Fax: (902) 428-6118 P.O. Box 910 Halifax, NS, CANADA B3J 2W5 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 05:53:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00693; Tue, 30 Aug 94 05:53:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28773; Tue, 30 Aug 94 05:39:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28767; Tue, 30 Aug 94 05:39:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfSDj-00000QC; Tue, 30 Aug 94 05:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Xander Jansen Subject: Re: probs reading MH folder (and can I write in MH format? (+more??)) In-Reply-To: <33qec5$csd@news.doit.wisc.edu> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <33qec5$csd@news.doit.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 09:56:29 GMT Hi, Mumit Khan (khan@xraylith.wisc.edu) wrote: : One of my major motivation for checking out Pine was it's ability to read : MH folders via IMAPD, bug I've been getting some weird results. The same reason for me to spend the weekend on installing Pine ;-) : Platform: (all using pre-compiled binaries from ftp.cac....) : client: Pine 3.90 SPARC 10/41 SunOS4.1.3 : IMAP server: IMAP 3.4 SPARC LX Solaris2.2 (running under inetd) : MH version: 6.8 #4 client: Pine 3.90 on a SparcServer with SunOS 4.1.3_U1 IMAP: same (but another machine) under inetd and tcp-wrapper MH-version: 6.8.3 #2 all binaries compiled here (whithout any modifications this time) : Problem: : When I `go-to-folder' using {mailhome}#mh/archive/simulation (which : happens to have 1441 articles (I use qt to index articles, so I never : bothered to sub-folder these archives), I get the same article/msg : repeated many many times; eg., the 1st 50 message I get are really : repeats of msg #1, 2nd 50 messages repeats of msg#2, etc. : Am I the only one seeing this? I'll experiment some more today with : smaller folders to see if it's the size of the folders. The largest folder I have contains 8886 messages and all the messages seem to be there (I didn't count them however). Note that I accessed them locally (not via Imap) with #mh/foldername. : Q1. MH Folder view: : Can I configure Pine client to see ALL my MH folders (sort of like : Xmh) without having to manually specify each of my hundreds of : folders in .pinerc? Try this (prepend {imap-hostname} where necessary) in your .pinerc: inbox-path=#mh/inbox incoming-folders="listmail" #mh/newlist folder-collections=Mail #mh/[], Archive #mh/archive/[], SubArchive #mh/subarchive/[] The first one is your normal inbox, the second one (incoming-folders) are other folders where new mail is deliverd (eg listmail). The folder-collections are the important thing: #mh/[] gives you ALL first level MH-folders. Sub-folders are ignored by the MH-driver in Pine/IMAP but can be added as a new folder-collection, for example #mh/archive/[] for all folders under the first level MH-folder archive. Sub-sub-folders are also an other folder-collection. Note that the first collection in folder-collections is the collection where messages are saved (in the correct style, see next question). So instead of defining ALL MH folders you just add folder-collections according to the sub(sub)folders you have. : Q2. Writing MH folders: : Can I save messages to my mailhome via IMAPD in MH format? (it : probably already works -- after my MH folder reading problem, I just : didn't dare try this) Yes, did it quite a few times now. The only problem sofar was that Pine/IMAP seems to have a problem with creating a folder for postponed or fcc messages if that folder doesn't exist yet. Creating folders from the folder-list works. Deleting folders fails, I think because the standard .mh-sequences file isn't removed by the MH-driver so a rmdir of the folder gracefully fails. One other minor glitch is Pine's handling of a drafts folder. I've configured MH to use a folder drafts to store all draft messages. When I tell Pine to use this folder (#mh/drafts) for postponed messages I can store postponed messages fine. But even when the drafts folder is empty Pine asks me whether I want to use a postponed message for new compositions. The mere existence of the MH-folder seems to let Pine believe that there are postponed messages even if the folder is empty ;-( But from what I've seen now Pine 3.90 makes a good candidate as yet another mailreader in our office (with a basic rule: mail is stored on a central machine in MH-style folders, how you read them is up to you). Q3 is for others to answer ;-) Regards, Xander Jansen SURFnet bv From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 05:58:37 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00775; Tue, 30 Aug 94 05:58:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29253; Tue, 30 Aug 94 05:52:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29247; Tue, 30 Aug 94 05:52:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfSKb-000008C; Tue, 30 Aug 94 05:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andresb@horos.kbfi.ee (Andres Bauman) Subject: Re: libcrypt.a ? Date: 30 Aug 1994 12:20:21 GMT Message-Id: <33v865$9a1@peak.edu.ee> References: <33sr48$1e3@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> <1994Aug30.071721.5511@sarnode.saratov.su> Rashid Karimov (root@sarnode.saratov.su) wrote: > Hi netters ! > Eigil Krogh Sorensen (eks@vki68.aar-vki.dk) wrote: [] > : Can libcrypt.a be found anywhere via ftp ? [] > As far as I remember there is so called "international > crypt library" ( somewhat relaxed version ) somewhere > at sosco.sco.com ( TLS ). Unfortunately it will fail if users password contains numbers, so it is quite unusable. And so does GNU -s crypt also. ANdres ----------------------------------------------------------- Andres Bauman | Internet: andresb@kbfi.ee Institute of Chemical Physics | phone: 372-2-455795 and Biophysics | fax: 372-2-440640 Ravala pst. 10 | EE0100, Tallinn, Estonia | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 06:34:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01451; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:34:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29379; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:25:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29373; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:25:47 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA01571; Tue, 30 Aug 94 21:26:54 +0800 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 21:26:52 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: 3.90 won't play my audio attachments :-( To: "" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 30 Aug 1994, wrote: > From the user's perspective, there is one major difference from 3.89 to > 3.90: the audio attachments that come with "torture-test.mbox" do not > automatically play on the Sparcstations. Nothing special was needed for > Pine 3.89, they just played. Now we get the error message: > "Cannot display Audio/X-Sun attachment" Have you created a .mailcap file with the appropriate information to handle an Audio/X-Sun attachment? Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 06:41:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01610; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:41:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29471; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:31:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29465; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:31:57 -0700 Received: from genesis.tdhca.texas.gov by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02421; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:31:56 -0700 Received: by genesis.tdhca.texas.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA13891; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 08:31:12 +0100 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 08:31:12 +0100 (GDT) From: Alex Maldonado To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help with PC-Pine / IMAP Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Where can I get help on PC-Pine and IMAP ? I can't get PC-Pine to connect to my server ! Thanks a million ! - Alex Maldonado. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 06:44:57 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01701; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:44:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29567; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:39:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29561; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:39:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfTAO-00000PC; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: william@london.sbi.com (William Charles) Subject: Incoming Folder in Pine 3.90 Date: 30 Aug 1994 13:21:00 GMT Message-Id: <33vbns$3m6@offas_dike.sbil.co.uk> -- Dear All, Just installed Pine 3.90, and am very pleased. One thing niggles, however -- I sort my incoming email (with procmail) into one of many separate folders. Some of these have the current month appended onto their names, some are purged on a regular basis, etc. It would be nice, instead of having to provide a list of folders that I consider as being `incoming', if Pine could be given a directory name (ie. ~/mail) and any files found therein would be considered as a valid mail folder... Is this possible? Have I missed something? Surely I don't have to manually maintain a list of valid incoming folders? Will. ____________ / _/ _ / / / | Salomon Brothers International Limited /_ / _ / / /_ |--------------------------------------------- /___/___/_/___/ | William Charles - Unix Systems Administrator From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 06:46:57 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01743; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:46:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29622; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:41:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29614; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:41:36 -0700 Received: from tomahawk.welch.jhu.edu by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02611; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:41:35 -0700 Received: by tomahawk.welch.jhu.edu. (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA27408; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 09:38:46 +0500 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 09:38:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Keith Christopher X-Sender: keithc@tomahawk.welch.jhu.edu To: Nelson CHIN Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: make errors in solaris In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 299 Add the following line to CFLAGS= in the makefile.sol in the pine subdir -Dconst= Keith Christopher Welch Medical Library Unix System Adminstrator --- http://tomahawk.welch.jhu.edu/keithc.html --- "And what do you call assassins who accuse assassins anyway ?" "My friend." -Marillion --- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 06:51:09 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01896; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:51:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29904; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:45:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from dxmint.cern.ch by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29898; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:45:35 -0700 Received: from aisws8.cern.ch by dxmint.cern.ch (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA22549; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 15:45:30 +0200 Received: by aisws8; Tue, 30 Aug 94 15:48:53 +0200 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 94 15:48:53 +0200 From: amills@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch Message-Id: <9408301348.AA00788@aisws8> Subject: unsubscribe pine-info Apparently-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu unsubscribe pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 07:01:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02161; Tue, 30 Aug 94 07:01:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29912; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:45:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29906; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:45:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfTCb-000008C; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jc@atcmp.nl (Jan Christiaan van Winkel) Subject: Re: libcrypt.a ? Message-Id: References: <33sr48$1e3@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> <1994Aug30.071721.5511@sarnode.saratov.su> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 12:55:38 GMT In <1994Aug30.071721.5511@sarnode.saratov.su> root@sarnode.saratov.su (Rashid Karimov) writes: > Hi netters ! >Eigil Krogh Sorensen (eks@vki68.aar-vki.dk) wrote: >: Can libcrypt.a be found anywhere via ftp ? > It's prohibited to ship crypt ( DES ?) software > outside US. > Some info on this could be found in SCO TechFAQ. > As far as I remember there is so called "international > crypt library" ( somewhat relaxed version ) somewhere > at sosco.sco.com ( TLS ). You might also want to try the gnu version of crypt. It is made in Denmark, can be exported to anywhere, but if exported to the US, it cannot be re-exported. Therefore, do not pick it up at the normal gnu sites in the US, but try some site outside the us. For example: site=ftp.uni-c.dk remote_dir=/pub/gnu glibc-1.07-crypt.tar.gz Here is the README: The GNU C library now includes Michael Glad's Ultra Fast Crypt, which provides the Unix `crypt' function, plus some other entry points. Because of the United States export restriction on DES implementations, we are distributing this code separately from the rest of the C library. There is an extra distribution tar file just for crypt; it is called `glibc-1.05-crypt.tar.Z'. You can just unpack the crypt distribution along with the rest of the C library and build; you can also build the library without getting crypt. Users outside the USA can get the crypt distribution via anonymous FTP from ftp.uni-c.dk [129.142.6.74], or another archive site outside the USA. Archive maintainers are encouraged to copy this distribution to their archives outside the USA. Please get it from ftp.uni-c.dk; transferring this distribution from prep.ai.mit.edu (or any other site in the USA) to a site outside the USA is in violation of US export laws. Hope this helps you JC -- ___ __ ____________________________________________________________________ |/ \ Jan Christiaan van Winkel Tel: +31 80 527252 jc@atcmp.nl | AT Computing P.O. Box 1428 6501 BK Nijmegen The Netherlands __/ \__/ ___________http://www.nl.net/~atcmp/staf/jc.gif_____________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 07:08:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02394; Tue, 30 Aug 94 07:08:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00185; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:57:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [129.55.12.3] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00179; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:57:39 -0700 Received: by ll.mit.edu (4.1/LL-1.3) id AA25825; Tue, 30 Aug 94 09:52:42 EDT Return-Path: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 94 09:52:42 -0400 From: James Dryfoos To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Deletes appear slower in 3.90? Message-Id: <9408300952.AA07771@LL.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I often get a lot of mail that I know I can delete by just looking at the subjects. I am used to just pressing D while in index mode. Sometimes I will just hold the D key to repetitively delete many messages in a row. I have noticed that when I do this in 3.90 it is much slower than when I did this in 3.89. Has something changed? It is not a real problem, just a little more of a nuisance. Thanks for the great work. 3.90 is great! -- Jim ========================================================================== James D. Dryfoos | dryfoos@ll.mit.edu MIT Lincoln Laboratory, Group 28 | 244 Wood Street, MailStop: B-120 | (617) 981-2008 - office Lexington, MA 02173, Earth | (617) 981-0782 - fax ========================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 07:15:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02710; Tue, 30 Aug 94 07:15:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29885; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:59:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29879; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:59:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfTR0-00000PC; Tue, 30 Aug 94 06:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Cornelius Subject: Differences between Pine 3.89 and Pine 3.90 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 14:39:08 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 1. Introduction Pine 3.90 and Pico 2.4 have recently been released by the Pine development team at the University of Washington. For Pine 3.90, my "executive summary" is: The user interface of Pine 3.90 for "elementary"-use (i.e., for a person who does not alter his/her .pinerc file) has changed very little. However, Pine 3.90 has quite a few new features which many of our users will love. The original version of this document was produced for use within my department at the University of Durham. I thought that it might be useful to send this slightly revised form to the comp.mail.pine newsgroup. Note: in some places, it covers the same material as the "Secrets of Pine 3.90" document. The remainder of this document has two purposes: (a) to identify those parts of Pine's user interface that has changed for users who don't configure Pine; (b) to illustrate how to make use of the features that are new in Pine 3.90. Purpose (a) is tackled in Sections 2 to 5, and the remaining sections cover the new features. In order to use any of the new features you will need to know how to get to the "Config Screen": this is covered in Section 6. Here is an index to the topics raised in this document: 2. Postponing more than one message 3. Exporting a message to a file 4. Saving and viewing attachments 5. Moving to the start or the end of a file/message 6. Configuring Pine using the "Config Screen" 7. Using an alternative editor automatically 8. Using more than one addressbook 9. Displaying the full headers of a message 10. Supplying your own headers 11. Controlling what headers get displayed when composing 12. Using aggregate commands 13. Accessing Usenet News from Pine 14. Piping a message to a Unix command 15. Bouncing a message to another user 16. Changing a message's status flag in the folder index 2. Postponing more than one message In Pine 3.90, you can postpone more than one message. The user interface is roughly the same as in previous versions of Pine except when you come to retrieve a message having previously postponed more than one message. In this case, you will be presented with an index of postponed messages, and asked which one you would like to retrieve. Note: you will find that the postponed messages are stored in a folder called "postponed-msgs". 3. Exporting a message to a file If you export a message to a file and the file already exists, in previous versions of Pine you can either cancel the operation or append the message to the file. Pine 3.90 gives you the choice of cancelling the operation, appending to the file or overwriting the file. 4. Saving and viewing attachments In Pine 3.90, the user interface for saving and viewing attachments is slightly different from that in previous versions. 5. Moving to the start or the end of a file/message In previous versions of Pico and Pine, you can use either W or Ctrl-W (depending on the context) to find the first line containing a string. In the new versions, you can follow the W or Ctrl-W by Ctrl-Y to move to the top line of a file/message/folder-index or Ctrl-V to move to the end of a file/message/folder-index. Here's a useful example. If you are editing a file/message, and you want to delete from the current point to the end of the file, press: (a) Ctrl-Carat, i.e., Ctrl-^ (which is often Ctrl-Shift-6) in order to set a mark; (b) Ctrl-W followed by Ctrl-V to move to the end of the file; (c) Ctrl-K to cut the marked text. 6. Configuring Pine using the "Config Screen" In previous versions of Pine, you had to alter the .pinerc file if you wanted to configure Pine. In Pine 3.90, you can configure Pine by going to the Setup Configuration Screen (which is called the "Config Screen" in this document). To find this screen, go to the Main Menu, press S followed by C. >From the Config Screen, you can change the settings of some of Pine's variables. If you are uncertain as to the purpose of a variable (or a value), move the cursor so that the appropriate line of the Config Screen is highlighted, and press ? (for Help). Any changes that you make to the Config Screen will eventually be written to your .pinerc file. For many changes, the change that you want will be effected immediately: however, for other changes you will need to leave Pine and then re-start it. 7. Using an alternative editor automatically By default, Pine puts you into the Pico editor when you are editing the body of a message. In previous versions of Pine, you can say that you want to use a different editor by including the value enable-alternate-editor-cmd in the feature-list variable. When editing, you can press Ctrl-Underscore to get into the alternative editor. With Pine 3.90, you don't need to press Ctrl-Underscore: you can automatically go into your alternative editor as soon as if you move the cursor into the body of the message. In order to enable this facility, you need to include enable-alternate-editor-implicitly in the feature-list variable. To do this, go to the Config Screen (see Section 6), move the cursor down to enable-alternate-editor-implicitly and press X. So the difference between these two is as follows. If you have set enable-alternate-editor-cmd, you choose when you want to use your alternative editor by using Ctrl-Underscore. If you have set enable-alternate-editor-implicitly, you always go into the alternative editor when you move into the body of the message. For either to work you also need to indicate the name of your favourite editor: the best way to do this is to set Pine's editor variable. So, re-visit the Config Screen, moving down to the line starting "editor =". This line is almost at the bottom of the Options Menu. Press A (for "Add Value") and then type in the name of your favourite editor: vi, emacs, axe, xedit and ed are all known to work. If you have your own special editor, and the setting of Unix's PATH variable does not mention the directory containing the editor, you can type in the full pathname for the file containing the binary of the editor, e.g. ~/tools/eddie 8. Using more than one addressbook In previous versions of Pine, you were able to store a list of mail-aliases in a file called .addressbook. With Pine 3.90, by setting the addressbook variable you can have several addressbooks and can choose the names of the files for these addressbooks. To do this, go to the Config Screen (see Section 6) and then move the cursor down to the line beginning "addressbook=". Press A (for Add Text) and then type in a comma-separated list, where each entry in the list can consist of a nickname followed by a space followed by the name of the file containing the addressbook. For example: B J C .myaddressbook,Project-X project-x/etc/addressbook refers to the two files .myaddressbook and project-x/etc/addressbook. When Pine wants to determine whether an address is a nickname, it will search these addressbooks in the order that they have given in the above list. To speed up the "look-up", Pine also creates an additional file (with extension .lu) for each addressbook. If it is unable to create this file in the same directory as the addressbook, it will create a temporary look-up file in /usr/tmp or /tmp. Besides personal addressbooks, Pine 3.90 also allows one or more global addressbooks. This is done by configuring the variable global-address-book. Global addressbooks can be used by system administrators to set up site-wide addressbooks. When searching addressbooks, personal addressbooks are searched before global addressbooks. 9. Displaying the full headers of a message As in previous versions of Pine, if you want to see the full headers of a message, you have to do two things: (a) The feature-list variable should include enable-full-header-cmd. To do this, go to the Config Screen (see Section 6), move the cursor down to enable-full-header-cmd and press X. (b) When you go to a folder index or you are viewing the contents of a message, press the H command. It is a "toggle": press H again to switch it off. In Pine 3.90, if you can currently see the full headers of a message, then, when you forward a message, it will ask you whether you want to forward the message as a MIME attachment. The full headers will also be printed/exported if you use the Y or E command. 10. Supplying your own headers You can supply your own headers or set default values for the standard headers by setting the customized-hdrs variable. To set this variable, go to the Config Screen (see Section 6) and then move the cursor down to the line beginning "customized-hdrs =". Press A (for Add Text) followed by a comma-separated list of the names of the headers that you want to be included, e.g.: Bcc:username@machine.site.domain 11. Controlling what headers get displayed when composing You can control what headers are displayed on the screen when you are composing a message by setting the default-composer-hdrs variable. To set this variable, go to the Config Screen (see Section 6) and then move the cursor down to the line beginning "default-composer-hdrs =". Press A (for Add Text) followed by a comma-separated list of the names of the headers that you want to be displayed, e.g.: To,Cc,Bcc,Subject 12. Using aggregate commands The A, Z and ; commands form the "aggregate command set". The ; command allows you to select all the messages that match some criteria; the A command allows to apply some command to each of the selected messages; and the Z command allows you to zoom in on the selected messages by changing the folder index temporarily so that only these messages are displayed. In order to use any of these commands, you need to have enable-aggregate-command-set included in the setting of the feature-list variable. To do this, go to the Config Screen (see Section 6) and then move the cursor down to the line containing enable-aggregate-command-set and press X. Here are some more details about the aggregate commands. The ; command selects messages in the folder index according to a criterion that you choose. It can be one of the following: (a) all messages, (b) a list or a range of message numbers, (c) messages containing a particular string within the From, To, Cc or Subject lines or within the entire text of the message, (d) the current message, (e) messages on/before/since a specified date, (f) messages that have a status flag of new/deleted/answered/important. Having chosen the criterion, the selected messages are indicated in the folder index by a X in the first column (unless the show-selected-in-boldface feature has been chosen). There is another way in which you can show which messages have been selected: if you issue a Z command after a ; command it will temporarily restrict the folder index to the selected messages --- pressing Z again returns you to the full folder index. If you have already used a ; command (to select a set of messages), then, if you type ; command again, Pine will ask you whether you want to (i) unselect all the selected messages, (ii) unselect the current message, (iii) add more messages to the set of selected messages, (iv) remove some messages from the set of selected messages. If you choose (iii) or (iv), then you can indicate the criterion by which messages are added to, or removed from, the current selection. Once again, the criterion can be any of those labelled (a) to (f) above. Having selected a set of messages, you can use the A command to apply any of the following operations to the set of selected messages: save, export, print, delete, undelete, reply, forward, takeaddr, flag or pipe. 13. Accessing Usenet News from Pine In previous versions of Pine, you were able to read the newsgroups of Usenet News. In Pine 3.90, there are additional facilities, e.g., you can subscribe/unsubscribe to newsgroups and post articles to newsgroups. In order to access Usenet News, you should go to the Config Screen (see Section 6), move the cursor down to the line starting "nntp-server =", press A (for Add Text) and then type the address of an nntpserver: newsserver.site.domain Note that it is not necessary to set the news-collections variable. Although optional, I believe it is also useful to include expanded-view-of-folders in the setting of the feature-list variable. To do this, move down to expanded-view-of-folders, and press X. You will now need to leave Pine, and re-start it. If you then press L to get the folder-list you will see a section headed News-collection. If you move to this section, you can press A followed by the name of a newsgroup in order to subscribe to that newsgroup. If you are uncertain about the name, then follow the A by Ctrl-T in order to list the names of all the newsgroups. If you press W at this point, you can find out those newsgroups whose names contain a particular string. The information about which newsgroups you are subscribed to is written to the file .newsrc. If you don't want your subscribed newsgroups to be displayed in alphabetical order, you may set the news-read-in-newsrc-order feature. To do this, go to the Config Screen (see Section 6) and then move the cursor down to the line containing news-read-in-newsrc-order and press X. You also need to edit your .newsrc file so that the lines appear in the order that you wish to look at the newsgroups. Once you have subscribed to the newsgroups which you think you may be interested, you can use them just like mail folders. When you have read an article, you can use the D command to record the fact that you have already seen it. This information is also stored in the .newsrc file. In this way, the article will not be presented to you the next time you read Usenet News. If you already have the folder for a newsgroup open, you can use the C command to post an article to the newsgroup. If you want to follow-up an existing article, or you want to reply to the sender of an article, use the R command. Although Pine does not have a command to "catch up" in a newsgroup (that is, to mark all the articles as deleted), you can use Pine's new aggregate command set (see Section 12) to do this. Pressing the four keys ;aad will cause all the articles in the current folder to be marked as deleted. So these articles will not be shown the next time you enter the newsgroup. 14. Piping a message to a Unix command When you are in a folder index or have a message displayed on the screen, you can pass the current message to the standard input of a Unix command by using | which is Pine's "pipe" command. In order to use this command, the feature-list variable must contain the value enable-unix-pipe-cmd. To do this, go to the Config Screen (see Section 6) and then move the cursor down to the line containing enable-unix-pipe-cmd and press X. 15. Bouncing a message to another user If user-1 sends a message to you but it really should have gone to user-2, then, in Pine 3.90, you can use the B command to "bounce" the message to user-2. The effect is that user-2 will receive a message as if it were from user-1 but with some additional lines indicating that has been resent by you. In order to use the B command, your feature-list variable needs to include enable-bounce-cmd. To do this, go to the Config Screen (see Section 6) and then move the cursor down to enable-bounce-cmd and press X. 16. Changing a message's status flag in the folder index You can change the status flag shown for a message in the folder index by * which is the flag command. Besides the normal flags of N, D, U, you can also set a flag to I meaning Important. In order to use this command, the feature-list variable must contain the value enable-flag-cmd. To do this, go to the Config Screen (see Section 6) and then move the cursor down to the line containing enable-flag-cmd and press X. -- Barry Cornelius Telephone: (0191 or +44 191) 374 4717 IT Service, Science Site, IT Service Office: (0191 or +44 191) 374 2892 University of Durham, Fax: (0191 or +44 191) 374 3741 Durham, DH1 3LE, UK E-mail: Barry.Cornelius@durham.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 07:20:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02892; Tue, 30 Aug 94 07:20:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00170; Tue, 30 Aug 94 07:09:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_2.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00158; Tue, 30 Aug 94 07:09:11 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA02083; Tue, 30 Aug 94 22:10:18 +0800 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 22:10:17 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: help with PC-Pine / IMAP To: Alex Maldonado Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 30 Aug 1994, Alex Maldonado wrote: > Where can I get help on PC-Pine and IMAP ? > I can't get PC-Pine to connect to my server ! You've come to the right newsgroup/mailing list. Now all you need to do is send a follow-up message with details of your problems. As always, be as specific as possible and you chances of receiving an answer will be greatly increased. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 07:32:58 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03203; Tue, 30 Aug 94 07:32:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00689; Tue, 30 Aug 94 07:24:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00683; Tue, 30 Aug 94 07:24:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfTqy-00000VC; Tue, 30 Aug 94 07:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sdorner@qualcomm.com (Steve Dorner) Subject: Re: use MIME for message digests (was: Bursting digests from within Pine) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 09:02:26 -0500 Message-Id: References: In article , sdm7g@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU (Steven D. Majewski) wrote: > [ Is this already standard practice on any mailing lists ? > If it is, I haven't noticed it. ] The only one I've seen botched it. They wound up putting the entire digest after the final boundary of the multipart, which was coincidentally the first boundary of the multipart. > Even better would be supporting viewing a MIME digest as a sort > of recursive mail-folder. My problem with this is that digest messages aren't required to be mail messages in the normal sense of the word. They don't have to have headers, for example. One hopes this feature won't get used much. -- Steve Dorner, Qualcomm Inc. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 07:54:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03986; Tue, 30 Aug 94 07:54:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00883; Tue, 30 Aug 94 07:43:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00877; Tue, 30 Aug 94 07:43:54 -0700 Received: from mise125.cern.ch by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03546; Tue, 30 Aug 94 07:43:53 -0700 Message-Id: <9408301443.AA03546@shivafs.cac.washington.edu> Date: Tue Aug 30 16:46:30 1994 From: amills@work.cern.ch To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Unsubscribe pine-info Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Unsubscribe pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 08:12:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04696; Tue, 30 Aug 94 08:12:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01427; Tue, 30 Aug 94 07:59:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01421; Tue, 30 Aug 94 07:59:21 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18778; Tue, 30 Aug 94 07:59:14 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 07:59:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: William Charles Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Incoming Folder in Pine 3.90 In-Reply-To: <33vbns$3m6@offas_dike.sbil.co.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Alas, at the moment it is not possible to specify a directory in the Incoming Message collection. We will be revisiting this issue when we work on hierarchy support for Pine 4.0. -teg On 30 Aug 1994, William Charles wrote: > -- > > Dear All, > > Just installed Pine 3.90, and am very pleased. One thing niggles, > however -- I sort my incoming email (with procmail) into one of > many separate folders. Some of these have the current month > appended onto their names, some are purged on a regular basis, > etc. > > It would be nice, instead of having to provide a list of folders > that I consider as being `incoming', if Pine could be given a > directory name (ie. ~/mail) and any files found therein would be > considered as a valid mail folder... > > Is this possible? Have I missed something? Surely I don't have to > manually maintain a list of valid incoming folders? > > > Will. > ____________ > / _/ _ / / / | Salomon Brothers International Limited > /_ / _ / / /_ |--------------------------------------------- > /___/___/_/___/ | William Charles - Unix Systems Administrator > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 08:37:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05902; Tue, 30 Aug 94 08:37:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02156; Tue, 30 Aug 94 08:29:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02146; Tue, 30 Aug 94 08:29:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfUq9-00000PC; Tue, 30 Aug 94 08:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeff Traigle Subject: Compliments and suggestion Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 10:56:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The wait was well worth it. I really like the enhancements in 3.90. Great job, Pine Team. I do have one suggestion for another enhancement. Add a command to unexpand a folder collection or addressbook. It's a minor irritation, but it'd be nice not to have to type two letters navigating menus when a single keystroke could do the same thing. Now off to figure out some more of these features. -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeff Traigle | | Systems Administrator | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | University of Michigan University of Michigan | | College of Pharmacy Biophysics Research Division | | Pharmacy Building, Room 1033 Chemistry Building, Room 3080 | | Ann Arbor MI 48109 Ann Arbor MI 48109 | | (313) 747-2340 (313) 763-5449 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | traigle@umich.edu Pager: (810) 617-8793 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 08:37:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06010; Tue, 30 Aug 94 08:37:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01795; Tue, 30 Aug 94 08:29:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01789; Tue, 30 Aug 94 08:29:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfUpV-00000aC; Tue, 30 Aug 94 08:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pascoe@mathworks.com (Dave Pascoe) Subject: Re: Deletes appear slower in 3.90? Date: 30 Aug 1994 15:04:39 GMT Message-Id: <33vhq7$h80@turing.mathworks.com> References: <9408300952.AA07771@LL.MIT.EDU> James Dryfoos (dryfoos@ll.mit.edu) wrote: : I often get a lot of mail that I know I can delete by just looking at the : subjects. I am used to just pressing D while in index mode. Sometimes I : will just hold the D key to repetitively delete many messages in a row. : I have noticed that when I do this in 3.90 it is much slower than when I : did this in 3.89. Has something changed? It is not a real problem, just : a little more of a nuisance. I've noticed the same thing....especially in folders other than INBOX, which are all on the local disk as opposed to the NFS-mounted /var/spool/mail. -- Dave Pascoe E-mail: pascoe@mathworks.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 08:52:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06721; Tue, 30 Aug 94 08:52:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02194; Tue, 30 Aug 94 08:44:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02188; Tue, 30 Aug 94 08:44:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfV6v-000008C; Tue, 30 Aug 94 08:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jansen@surfnet.nl (Xander Jansen) Subject: Re: exact use of .mailcap Message-Id: <1994Aug30.122857.6893@cc.ruu.nl> References: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 12:28:57 GMT Wim, I fixed this by substituting ALL empty lines in the mailcap file with a single # character (:1,$s/^$/#/ for vi adepts ;-). It appears that Pine chokes on empty lines (regards them as the end of the file) and never reaches the application/postscript definition. Regards, Xander --- W. Holemans (holemans@uia.ac.be) wrote: : I'm trying the new opions of pine 3.90. So far everything worked as expected : but now i'm experimenting with the mailcap feature and this gives me some : problems. Just as some other people on this list i didn't find the demo : mailcap file in the distribution but i downloaded metamail 2.7 and used : that one as an example. I copied it to ~/.mailcap and in the pine debug : file i can find an entry that the mailcap is found and read (and also some : messages about ignoring some lines). : In the mailcap file there is an entry for application/postscript that : refers to the lpr command. : I mailed myself a postscript file as an attachement, but if i choose : attachement / view, i get an error saying no viewer is found. : What did i forget ? Is there a pinerc variable i have to set to enable : mailcap support ? If some features of the mailcap file are ignored, : which are supported and where is this documented ? : I also didn't find information about multiple addressbooks at first : sight, but maybe i should look closer. : ----------------------------------------------------------------------- : Wim Holemans phone + 32 3 820 22 03 : Network/System manager fax + 32 3 820 22 44 : U.I.A. : e-mail : wim.holemans@uia.ac.be : ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 09:13:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08586; Tue, 30 Aug 94 09:13:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03401; Tue, 30 Aug 94 09:07:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03395; Tue, 30 Aug 94 09:07:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfVQf-000008C; Tue, 30 Aug 94 08:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: myhsu@db39.ee.ncu.edu.tw (Ming-Yen Hsu) Subject: Need help about filtering in-coming mail! Message-Id: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 14:56:54 GMT References: <199408300706.AAA08827@weber.ucsd.edu> Actually, I have found a mailing list talking about procmail, but no answer for now. Sorry for asking about procmail here again! This time I found something strange. I substitute the "jeff" with an- other person and the procmail work! The only difference I can figure out is that this man is at the same domain as I am, but jeff isn't. We are running SunOS with NIS and a local domain name "dblab", I found all mail sent from machines in our lab can be recognized by procmail. The "Subject" condition can work is because I use our machine as smtp server for people who want to send comments to me. I sent a mail with subject contained "WWW comment" from other machine and the procmail failed again! Now I use "filter" and work fine, but there is no "You have new mail" message when I login. It seems the elm has to be re-compiled with some patch to do that. I do believe that procmail is more powerful, but why can I just use it :~( Does anyone has experience running procmail with NIS? -- Ming-Yen, Database Lab. ---------- giving you the best that I got -- Computer Science & Information Eng. voice: ........ 886-3-4227151x4504 National Central University, Taiwan fax: ........ 886-3-4227151x4508 -- MIME and BIG5 accepted ---------- email: .. myhsu@db39.ee.ncu.edu.tw From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 09:16:38 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08710; Tue, 30 Aug 94 09:16:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03046; Tue, 30 Aug 94 09:09:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03040; Tue, 30 Aug 94 09:09:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfVRf-00000MC; Tue, 30 Aug 94 08:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "A.Sharaz" Subject: Persuading Pine 3.90 to read environment variables Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 16:39:59 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi all, i've just been trying out the latest Version of Pine and although, as you can see, I've managed to set up a reply-to field for myself, I don't really want to do it for everyone that uses mail. At hull university, all outgoing mail passes through a mail hub that translates userid@host.dept.hull.ac.uk into Initial1.initial2.surname@dept.hull.ac.uk as far as the outside world is concerned, they see the "departmental" e-mail addresses instead of the actual host specific ones. When dealing with USENET as we primarily use UNIX boxes to provide the clients, we've modified various scripts to use the contents of the REPLYTO environment variable when posting news. The REPLYTO variable is set by a prog that obtains a persons e-mail address from our X.500 database. Ideally I'd like to be able to do the same thing for PINE. If a person is posting to a news group I need to have the reply-to field set up with a persons "departmental" address rather than the "host specific" one. Anyone know if there's a possible way of doing this without delving into the source code? Ideally I'd like to do it for the PC-DOS version as well. alex RFC-822: A.Sharaz@computer-centre.hull.ac.uk X.400: I=A;S=Sharaz;OU=Computer-Centre;O=Hull;PRMD=UK.AC;c=GB X.500: c=GB@o=University of Hull@ou=computer Centre@cn=Alexander Sharaz Tel: +44 482-465700 Fax: +44 482-466441 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 09:17:56 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08789; Tue, 30 Aug 94 09:17:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03447; Tue, 30 Aug 94 09:10:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03441; Tue, 30 Aug 94 09:10:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfVUD-00000VC; Tue, 30 Aug 94 08:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Pine for SCO w/bug fix Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 14:56:23 GMT Message-Id: Feeling an irresistable urge to FTP another megabyte of data for no particular reason, I have uploaded another Pine binary package (Pine, Pico, imapd, ipopxd, man pages) for SCO Unix to soils.agron.iastate.edu in the /pub/incoming directory. If they're not tired of hearing from me yet, this package will probably be moved into /pub/sco/unix/pine someday. The file is called "pine3.90.dist.sco.fix.tar.gz". Thanks very much to the Pine Development Team and especially to Mark Crispin, for fixing a core-dump bug I found in the MMDF handling code which occurs only under very limited circumstances (a message has to start within a handful of bytes of the chunk boundary - a 1 in 2000 chance, and even then only if your mailbox is larger than one chunk). Since two of my users with huge mailboxes found this problem out, I made haste to make new binaries for SCO lest other people should have it as well. You will want to re-download the code, because even if you haven't seen the bug yet, it will bite you some day years from now when you've forgotten where you got your code. If you can't wait for the official patches to make their way out into the real work (check ftp.cac.washington.edc if you're unsure), you can send me mail, and I'll mail them to you. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 09:20:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08972; Tue, 30 Aug 94 09:20:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03191; Tue, 30 Aug 94 09:14:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03185; Tue, 30 Aug 94 09:14:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfVaR-00000aC; Tue, 30 Aug 94 08:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: Deletes appear slower in 3.90? Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 15:22:27 GMT Message-Id: References: <9408300952.AA07771@LL.MIT.EDU> James Dryfoos (dryfoos@ll.mit.edu) wrote: : I often get a lot of mail that I know I can delete by just looking at the : subjects. I am used to just pressing D while in index mode. Sometimes I : will just hold the D key to repetitively delete many messages in a row. : I have noticed that when I do this in 3.90 it is much slower than when I : did this in 3.89. Has something changed? It is not a real problem, just : a little more of a nuisance. Well, it depends on how many messages you have to delete. For instance, going in and cleaning out a sent-mail folder can take a _real_ long time if you have to wait a full second for each message. That, incidentally, is what I think the problem may be. There is a default 1-second sleep after each status message is printed, and I think message deletions count as status messages. Is there a way to flag those messages as not worthy of a full-second delay? Gunther Anderson p.s. I know, I know, where was that suggestion during the beta phase... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 10:18:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11397; Tue, 30 Aug 94 10:18:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04721; Tue, 30 Aug 94 10:10:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from LL.MIT.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04715; Tue, 30 Aug 94 10:10:28 -0700 Received: by ll.mit.edu (4.1/LL-1.3) id AA03688; Tue, 30 Aug 94 13:09:09 EDT Return-Path: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 94 13:09:09 -0400 From: James Dryfoos To: Gunther Anderson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Deletes appear slower in 3.90? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <9408301309.AA17139@LL.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 30 Aug 1994, Gunther Anderson wrote: > Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 15:22:27 GMT > From: Gunther Anderson > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Deletes appear slower in 3.90? > > James Dryfoos (dryfoos@ll.mit.edu) wrote: > : I often get a lot of mail that I know I can delete by just looking at the > : subjects. I am used to just pressing D while in index mode. Sometimes I > : will just hold the D key to repetitively delete many messages in a row. > : I have noticed that when I do this in 3.90 it is much slower than when I > : did this in 3.89. Has something changed? It is not a real problem, just > : a little more of a nuisance. > > Well, it depends on how many messages you have to delete. For instance, > going in and cleaning out a sent-mail folder can take a _real_ long time > if you have to wait a full second for each message. That, incidentally, > is what I think the problem may be. There is a default 1-second sleep > after each status message is printed, and I think message deletions count > as status messages. Is there a way to flag those messages as not worthy > of a full-second delay? > > Gunther Anderson > > p.s. I know, I know, where was that suggestion during the beta phase... I would not mind if I could easily select each message to be deleted and then delete them. The problem is, pressing ;c for each message is more work than just pressing d for each. Is it possible to get a one key select current message? Even if this were possible, will it run into same problem as above? -- Jim ========================================================================== James D. Dryfoos | dryfoos@ll.mit.edu MIT Lincoln Laboratory, Group 28 | 244 Wood Street, MailStop: B-120 | (617) 981-2008 - office Lexington, MA 02173, Earth | (617) 981-0782 - fax ========================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 10:30:47 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12049; Tue, 30 Aug 94 10:30:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05158; Tue, 30 Aug 94 10:23:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05152; Tue, 30 Aug 94 10:23:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfWZZ-000008C; Tue, 30 Aug 94 10:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: One problem (was Re: Pine 3.90 is out!!!) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 09:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <33ms30$evg@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu> <33ufh2$6dm@tardis.au.mdis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <33ufh2$6dm@tardis.au.mdis.com> >From the Pine FAQ: Subject: What mailing lists and newsgroups are there dealing with Pine? The "comp.mail.pine" newsgroup is devoted to Pine. It is bi-directionally gatewayed to the "pine-info" mailing list described below. The following mailing lists deal with Pine and related topics: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Pine-Info is a mailing list for the email program Pine. The mailing list includes discussion of Pine features, bugs, tricks, etc. Often technical and installation questions appear on the list. New releases, fixes and version of Pine are announced on the pine-info mailing list. For official announcements only, you may wish to see pine-announce instead of this list. To subscribe to pine-info, send a message to majordomo@cac.washington.edu with subscribe pine-info in the body of the message. Owners of this mailing list can be contacted at owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu. Pine-Announce@cac.washington.edu Pine-Announce is a announcement list for the email program Pine. When new Pine products are released and old ones updated, a message goes out to this group describing the development. It is a very low volume list and includes no discussion whatsoever. _All messages to this list are automatically forwarded to pine-info, so it is not necessary to subscribe to both lists._ To subscribe to pine-announce, send a message to majordomo@cac.washington.edu with subscribe pine-announce in the body of the message. Owners of this mailing list can be contacted at owner-pine-announce@cac.washington.edu. IMAP@CAC.Washington.EDU This is the official mailing list for the IETF IMAP working group and other interested parties. Discussion of the evolving IMAP standard and related issues is conducted on this list. To subscribe to IMAP, send a message to imap-request@cac.washington.edu. C-Client@CAC.Washington.EDU This list is for discussion of the C-Client library which is used by Pine and various other mail and IMAP clients and servers. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 30 Aug 1994, Tony Lorimer wrote: > R. Stewart Ellis (ellis@nova.gmi.edu) wrote: > : setspike@mcl.ucsb.edu (Jason Pascual) writes: > > : >For those of you not on the mailing list, Pine 3.90 is available. I just > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > How do I get onto this mailing list > > [stuffed deleted] > > > \|/ > @ @ > ---------------------------------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo----------- > > Tony Lorimer (tlorimer@au.mdis.com) Phone: +612 4365700 > MDIS - McDonnell Information Systems Pty Ltd Fax : +612 4392439 > Sydney Australia Voice: +612 4365751 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 10:37:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12405; Tue, 30 Aug 94 10:37:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05352; Tue, 30 Aug 94 10:31:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from vnet.ibm.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05346; Tue, 30 Aug 94 10:31:15 -0700 Received: from RTP by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6938; Tue, 30 Aug 94 13:31:06 EDT Received: by RTP (XAGENTA 3.0) id 3456; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 13:30:10 -0400 Received: by axis.raleigh.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA18557; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 13:30:31 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 13:30:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Sean Allen" To: Dave Pascoe Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Deletes appear slower in 3.90? In-Reply-To: <33vhq7$h80@turing.mathworks.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Could it also be that these msgs are actually deleted as you press the 'D' key? I have noticed the same effect, but have switched to using the aggregate commands to take out a whole lump of msgs. This method does not always work, since not all messages have something in common... On the one second default delay, I would personally rather search the .pine-debugX files for any msgs that I miss, than wait for a second each. This is truly a nit, just getting me 0.02 in... BTW - like the developers havent heard it enough -- Great Job! On 30 Aug 1994, Dave Pascoe wrote: > James Dryfoos (dryfoos@ll.mit.edu) wrote: > : I often get a lot of mail that I know I can delete by just looking at the > : subjects. I am used to just pressing D while in index mode. Sometimes I > : will just hold the D key to repetitively delete many messages in a row. > : I have noticed that when I do this in 3.90 it is much slower than when I > : did this in 3.89. Has something changed? It is not a real problem, just > : a little more of a nuisance. > > I've noticed the same thing....especially in folders other than INBOX, > which are all on the local disk as opposed to the NFS-mounted > /var/spool/mail. > > -- > Dave Pascoe E-mail: pascoe@mathworks.com > > Sean Allen AIX/Database Administration (919)543-6021 T/L 441 IBM Personal Computer Company Internal Zip: D318/B205 Research Triangle Park, NC VNET: RTP(SALLEN) IBM IP: sallen@axis.raleigh.ibm.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 10:54:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13393; Tue, 30 Aug 94 10:54:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05768; Tue, 30 Aug 94 10:45:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05762; Tue, 30 Aug 94 10:45:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfWzK-00000MC; Tue, 30 Aug 94 10:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Incoming Folder in Pine 3.90 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 09:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <33vbns$3m6@offas_dike.sbil.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <33vbns$3m6@offas_dike.sbil.co.uk> You can specify directories of folders as either folder-collections or news-collections. We have considered various ways of adding groups of folders to the incoming list, but decided to defer any action for now... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 30 Aug 1994, William Charles wrote: > -- > > Dear All, > > Just installed Pine 3.90, and am very pleased. One thing niggles, > however -- I sort my incoming email (with procmail) into one of > many separate folders. Some of these have the current month > appended onto their names, some are purged on a regular basis, > etc. > > It would be nice, instead of having to provide a list of folders > that I consider as being `incoming', if Pine could be given a > directory name (ie. ~/mail) and any files found therein would be > considered as a valid mail folder... > > Is this possible? Have I missed something? Surely I don't have to > manually maintain a list of valid incoming folders? > > > Will. > ____________ > / _/ _ / / / | Salomon Brothers International Limited > /_ / _ / / /_ |--------------------------------------------- > /___/___/_/___/ | William Charles - Unix Systems Administrator > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 11:45:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16242; Tue, 30 Aug 94 11:45:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07435; Tue, 30 Aug 94 11:39:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07429; Tue, 30 Aug 94 11:39:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfXi9-000008C; Tue, 30 Aug 94 11:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rkl@csc.liv.ac.uk (Richard Lloyd) Subject: imap/ANSI and imap/non-ANSI - why this split ? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 16:41:37 GMT Why has the imap directory in the pine source tree always had an ANSI and non-ANSI set of sources ? Surely the use of #ifdef __STDC__ can merge the two together ? Considering that the ANSI tree takes up 1.7MB and the non-ANSI takes up a further 1.12MB, this is something that needs attention [it is one of the main reasons that pine3.90.tar.Z is so large !]. HP-UX Archive Librarian, E-mail queries: ftp@csc.liv.ac.uk Computer Science Dept., Official anonymous FTP sites (get /README first): Liverpool University, United Kingdom: hpux.csc.liv.ac.uk [NEW NAME !!!] United Kingdom. Germany: hpux.ask.uni-karlsruhe.de United States: ftp.cae.wisc.edu Not got xbrowser 1.4 yet ? France: hpux.cict.fr You'll find it in Official World Wide Web sites: /hpux9/X11R5/Networking United Kingdom: http://hpux.csc.liv.ac.uk/intro.html Unisted States: http://www.cae.wisc.edu/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 11:46:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16301; Tue, 30 Aug 94 11:46:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07441; Tue, 30 Aug 94 11:39:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from faxon.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07411; Tue, 30 Aug 94 11:38:47 -0700 Received: by faxon.ca (5.4R2.01/192.139.186.253) id AA17855; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 14:35:06 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 14:35:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Dion Vansevenant To: Pine Messages Subject: Postpone key doesn't work. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi folks. First off, I have to say this again, Pine Team...3.90 is wonderful! Now, I was having a problem under 3.86 that I was hoping would be solved in 3.90. It seems that my ^O key responds as ^C under Pine. I tried changing terminal types, but this does not seem to help. I was originally defined as vt100, now I'm using ansi. Under the ansi setting pressing ^O moves me to the next word. Any suggestions? Dion *----------------------------------------------* | Dion Vansevenant stu2@faxon.ca | | Systems Administrator | | Faxon/SMS Canada Ltd. (519) 472-1006 voice | | P.O. Box 2382 (519) 472-1072 fax | | London, ON | | Canada N6A 5A7 | *----------------------------------------------* If you don't change your direction - you're bound to end up where you're headed. - Chinese Proverb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 12:06:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17537; Tue, 30 Aug 94 12:06:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07934; Tue, 30 Aug 94 12:00:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07927; Tue, 30 Aug 94 12:00:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfYAU-000008C; Tue, 30 Aug 94 11:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: myhsu@db39.ee.ncu.edu.tw (Ming-Yen Hsu) Subject: Re: Need help about filtering in-coming mail! Message-Id: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 17:10:52 GMT References: <199408300706.AAA08827@weber.ucsd.edu> I have solved the problem! Thanks for all the kindness replies. It is really wonderful to enjoy Pine! -- Ming-Yen, Database Lab. ---------- giving you the best that I got -- Computer Science & Information Eng. voice: ........ 886-3-4227151x4504 National Central University, Taiwan fax: ........ 886-3-4227151x4508 -- MIME and BIG5 accepted ---------- email: .. myhsu@db39.ee.ncu.edu.tw From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 12:47:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19668; Tue, 30 Aug 94 12:47:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09099; Tue, 30 Aug 94 12:40:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09093; Tue, 30 Aug 94 12:40:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfYk9-00000MC; Tue, 30 Aug 94 12:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: steve@adam.com.au (Stephen White) Subject: Re: Pico, Linux, binaries with garbage fix Date: 31 Aug 1994 04:36:48 +0930 Message-Id: <340008$1r3@eve.adam.com.au> References: Andrew B. Sweger (absweger@u.washington.edu) wrote: : I've applied Bryan Vold's fix to display.c (Pine-Info, 25 Aug 1994 : 16:01:29 -0500) and pico seems to work fine and does *not* display garbage : character(s) at the top of the display anymore. I'm using 3.89.999 (Beta of 3.90) and I don't have a garbage character. -- steve@adam.com.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 16:30:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00839; Tue, 30 Aug 94 16:30:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14405; Tue, 30 Aug 94 16:25:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14399; Tue, 30 Aug 94 16:25:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfar9-000008C; Tue, 30 Aug 94 14:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ruebeck@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Christophe B Ruebeck) Subject: Re: Sending a pre-typed file in PINE Date: 30 Aug 1994 15:16:33 -0400 Message-Id: <3400ih$88@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> References: <33qec5$csd@news.doit.wisc.edu> <33quqd$bkd@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> I'm more accustomed to VMS MAIL. So I'm used to typing send filename when I want to include a pre-typed text file in a message. How can I do this in PINE? I've got a posting that I saved, and now want to include it in my mail message text. Thanks for the help - Chris From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 17:58:34 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04453; Tue, 30 Aug 94 17:58:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16291; Tue, 30 Aug 94 17:53:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16285; Tue, 30 Aug 94 17:53:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfdbM-00000PC; Tue, 30 Aug 94 17:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: Sending a pre-typed file in PINE Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 23:03:48 GMT Message-Id: References: <33qec5$csd@news.doit.wisc.edu> <33quqd$bkd@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> Christophe B Ruebeck (ruebeck@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu) wrote: : I'm a new PINE user and more accustomed to VMS MAIL. So I'm used to typing : Mail> send filename : when I wnat to send some text file. How can I do this in PINE? I've got : a posting that I saved, and now want to include it in my message text. While in the Pine Composer, type ^R. (You can see ^R on the bottom as "Read File"). This will prompt you to enter the file name, or you can hit ^T to bring up a file list. Not so hard, actually, and quite a nice facility. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 18:15:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05193; Tue, 30 Aug 94 18:15:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16092; Tue, 30 Aug 94 18:11:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16086; Tue, 30 Aug 94 18:11:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfdwp-00000MC; Tue, 30 Aug 94 17:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jurist@netaxs.com (Jurist) Subject: Pine on Wyse 50 Date: 30 Aug 1994 23:35:05 GMT Message-Id: <340fn9$dbv@netaxs.com> Is anyone running pine with Wyse 50's as terminals? The arrow keys send inconvenient control characters. I know you can use N, P, Space, and -, or ESC arrow key, but that is very annoying, especially in pico. We use SCO ODT 3.0, but that shouldn't matter. Help.... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 18:45:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05958; Tue, 30 Aug 94 18:45:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16553; Tue, 30 Aug 94 18:39:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from merlin.resmel.bhp.com.au by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16543; Tue, 30 Aug 94 18:39:47 -0700 Received: from tin.engper.bhp.com.au by merlin.resmel.bhp.com.au with SMTP id AA03720 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 31 Aug 1994 11:39:37 +1000 Received: by tin.engper.bhp.com.au id AA12030 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pine-info ); Wed, 31 Aug 1994 09:37:16 +0800 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 09:37:14 +0800 (WST) From: Marc Thuijs Subject: To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 19:10:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06598; Tue, 30 Aug 94 19:10:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17363; Tue, 30 Aug 94 19:02:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17357; Tue, 30 Aug 94 19:02:52 -0700 Received: from ester.dsv.su.se by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14898; Tue, 30 Aug 94 19:02:50 -0700 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SUNET/ADMD=_/C=SE/; Relayed; 31 Aug 94 03:53:54+0200 Date: 31 Aug 94 03:53:54+0200 From: Marc Thuijs Message-Id: <808468*@su-kom.dsv.su.se> To: "Pine mailer discussions group (pine-infoEcac.washington.edu)" , pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 19:15:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06839; Tue, 30 Aug 94 19:15:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17028; Tue, 30 Aug 94 19:09:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from merlin.resmel.bhp.com.au by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17012; Tue, 30 Aug 94 19:08:51 -0700 Received: from tin.engper.bhp.com.au by merlin.resmel.bhp.com.au with SMTP id AA05558 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 31 Aug 1994 12:07:40 +1000 Received: by tin.engper.bhp.com.au id AA12200 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pine-info ); Thu, 1 Sep 1994 01:05:30 +0800 Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 01:05:29 +0800 (WST) From: Marc Thuijs Subject: To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe pine-info Marc Thuijs From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 19:18:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06938; Tue, 30 Aug 94 19:18:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17465; Tue, 30 Aug 94 19:10:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post1.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17459; Tue, 30 Aug 94 19:10:03 -0700 Received: from general2.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HGJ4VVQFEO8X3QO2@asu.edu>; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 19:12:50 MST Received: from general2 (localhost) by general2.asu.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA02273; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 19:09:55 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 19:09:54 -0700 (MST) From: Shahjehan Khatri Subject: No body suspension To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Length: 625 I can suspend Pine 3.89 (Solaris version) while composing a message if I press ^Z in the header section. However, I get "Unknown Command: ^Z" if I do so in the "Message Text" area. Any hints? Incidentally, a hearty thanks to The Pine Team for Pine 3.89! It may not be as good as Pine 3.90, but hey!... = ) We've put tons of people here on it. Thanks again and again.... -- "Treat every man according to his desert, and who shall scape a whipping? Treat them after your own honor and dignity. The less they deserve, the more merit is in your bounty." -- From _Hamlet_ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 19:39:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07591; Tue, 30 Aug 94 19:39:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17749; Tue, 30 Aug 94 19:26:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17743; Tue, 30 Aug 94 19:26:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qff7z-000008C; Tue, 30 Aug 94 19:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nelson CHIN Subject: how to modify content type: field? Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 19:50:07 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII can someone tell me how i can modify the content-type: field, when i mail or post using pine.. i don't want it to automatically do it for me. Nelson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 19:42:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07693; Tue, 30 Aug 94 19:42:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17394; Tue, 30 Aug 94 19:31:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17388; Tue, 30 Aug 94 19:31:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qff8w-00000MC; Tue, 30 Aug 94 19:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edel@stein2.u.washington.edu (Herbert Edelhertz) Subject: Printing in Pine Date: 31 Aug 1994 00:39:22 GMT Message-Id: <340jfq$ff4@news.u.washington.edu> My printer is an HPLaserJetIII. When I use the "y" command to print out an email message, it prints as expected but the printer always spits out an extra blank page. This also happens when I try to print a news item in Tin. I have tried both ansiprt and ansiprint, but I still get the extra pages. Any advice on this? Many thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 19:44:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07817; Tue, 30 Aug 94 19:44:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17877; Tue, 30 Aug 94 19:33:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17871; Tue, 30 Aug 94 19:33:02 -0700 Received: from ester.dsv.su.se by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15361; Tue, 30 Aug 94 19:33:00 -0700 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SUNET/ADMD=_/C=SE/; Relayed; 31 Aug 94 04:26:40+0200 Date: 31 Aug 94 04:26:40+0200 From: Marc Thuijs Message-Id: <808476*@su-kom.dsv.su.se> To: "Pine mailer discussions group (pine-infoEcac.washington.edu)" , pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 19:57:38 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08258; Tue, 30 Aug 94 19:57:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17646; Tue, 30 Aug 94 19:46:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from faxon.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17640; Tue, 30 Aug 94 19:46:02 -0700 Received: by faxon.ca (5.4R2.01/192.139.186.253) id AA15385; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 22:42:05 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 22:42:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Dion Vansevenant To: Jurist Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine on Wyse 50 In-Reply-To: <340fn9$dbv@netaxs.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 30 Aug 1994, Jurist wrote: > Is anyone running pine with Wyse 50's as terminals? The arrow keys send > inconvenient control characters. I know you can use N, P, Space, and -, > or ESC arrow key, but that is very annoying, especially in pico. > > We use SCO ODT 3.0, but that shouldn't matter. > > Help.... <*sigh*> Yes, we use pine on WY-50's as well. Currently only one user uses it, but there will be more. We're running DG/UX 5.4.201 and have not been able to get the Wyse terminals to function properly since it was installed. I've just told my users to forget about using cursor keys. I've spoken with both Wyse and DG and neither one was able to offer any help. No help here, sorry. But if somebody manages to enlighten you, please be kind enough to pass the info my way. Thanks. Good luck! Dion *----------------------------------------------* | Dion Vansevenant stu2@faxon.ca | | Systems Administrator | | Faxon/SMS Canada Ltd. (519) 472-1006 voice | | P.O. Box 2382 (519) 472-1072 fax | | London, ON | | Canada N6A 5A7 | *----------------------------------------------* If you don't change your direction - you're bound to end up where you're headed. - Chinese Proverb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 22:08:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11780; Tue, 30 Aug 94 22:08:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20063; Tue, 30 Aug 94 22:00:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <@SIVM.SI.EDU:stoneji@scan.si.edu> Received: from SIVM.SI.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20057; Tue, 30 Aug 94 22:00:33 -0700 Received: from scan.si.edu by SIVM.SI.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 31 Aug 94 00:59:31 EDT Received: by scan.si.edu (5.65/1.35) id AA11628; Wed, 31 Aug 94 00:55:56 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 00:55:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Stone To: Herbert Edelhertz Cc: Pine-Info List Subject: Re: Printing in Pine In-Reply-To: <340jfq$ff4@news.u.washington.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Concerning your question about getting an extra blank page when printing from PINE: Is your LaserJet attached to a network? In Novell, the "capture" command can be set to send a form feed at the end of the print job, and I assume other networks have a similar option. The extra form feed is unnecessary in this case, so it produces a blank page. When running "capture" in Novell, the flag "nff" suppresses the extra form feed, as in: capture q={queue_name} nff If you're not printing through a network, I'm stumped. jim -------------------------------------------:::::--------------------------- "as long as the music's loud enough, ::::: Jim Stone we won't hear the world falling apart." ::::: Smithsonian Institution -derek jarman, "jubilee" ::::: stoneji@scan.si.edu -------------------------------------------:::::--------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 22:48:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12682; Tue, 30 Aug 94 22:48:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20178; Tue, 30 Aug 94 22:39:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20172; Tue, 30 Aug 94 22:39:08 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14904; Tue, 30 Aug 94 22:39:06 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 22:39:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Herbert Edelhertz Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Printing in Pine In-Reply-To: <340jfq$ff4@news.u.washington.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Herbert, Pine's builtin printer code is not very configurable, and it does indeed send a trailing form-feed... (many printers require it.) To get around this, use Pine's custom print command, and an external program called "ansiprt" that comes with the pine distribution in the contrib directory. It doesn't send the trailing FF. (As it happens, "ansiprt" is already installed on Stein). -teg On 31 Aug 1994, Herbert Edelhertz wrote: > My printer is an HPLaserJetIII. When I use the "y" command to print out > an email message, it prints as expected but the printer always spits out > an extra blank page. This also happens when I try to print a news item in > Tin. I have tried both ansiprt and ansiprint, but I still get the extra > pages. > > Any advice on this? Many thanks. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 23:11:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13147; Tue, 30 Aug 94 23:11:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20486; Tue, 30 Aug 94 23:04:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20474; Tue, 30 Aug 94 23:04:32 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15346; Tue, 30 Aug 94 23:04:32 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 23:04:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Herbert Edelhertz , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Printing in Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII OK, I'll read *all* of your message this time :) Since you've already tried ansiprt, and it also happens from tin, I'd be looking on the desktop side of the equation... Presumably local printing doesn't have this problem, so maybe it is your comm software (where the ANSI printer escape codes are interpreted)? If there is any way to divert the print stream to a file, that might help determine whether the FF is coming from the remote host, or being added locally. (Sorry about the previous non-answer.) -teg On Tue, 30 Aug 1994, Terry Gray wrote: > Herbert, > Pine's builtin printer code is not very configurable, and it does indeed > send a trailing form-feed... (many printers require it.) To get around > this, use Pine's custom print command, and an external program called > "ansiprt" that comes with the pine distribution in the contrib directory. > It doesn't send the trailing FF. (As it happens, "ansiprt" is already > installed on Stein). > > -teg > > On 31 Aug 1994, Herbert Edelhertz wrote: > > > My printer is an HPLaserJetIII. When I use the "y" command to print out > > an email message, it prints as expected but the printer always spits out > > an extra blank page. This also happens when I try to print a news item in > > Tin. I have tried both ansiprt and ansiprint, but I still get the extra > > pages. > > > > Any advice on this? Many thanks. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 30 23:55:14 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14087; Tue, 30 Aug 94 23:55:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21400; Tue, 30 Aug 94 23:41:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21394; Tue, 30 Aug 94 23:41:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfj7G-000008C; Tue, 30 Aug 94 23:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sarge@cs.uq.oz.au (Michael Sargent) Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 used with xterm Date: 31 Aug 1994 05:04:29 GMT Message-Id: <34130t$bjf@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> References: In wickstro@ttd.teradyne.com (Kenny Wickstrom) writes: >On Mon, 29 Aug 1994, wrote: >> I do not get a core-dump when starting any other application in the xterm >> (such as "xterm -e pico file"), nor do I get it when I start the xterm >> separately (ie without the "-e command". >> >> Should I ftp the source and compile my own version? or is this not at all >> a pine issue? >> >I have the same setup, but I used the source. The result is the same. I >get a core file everytime I exit pine when started using: > xterm -e pine >I don't get a core if I start the xterm and then from a prompt I start pine. the way we got around the problem was to add #ifdef SUN signal(SIGHUP,SIG_DFL); #endif before the #ifdef DEBUG fclose(debugfile); #endif in the quit_screen procedure of pine.c Sarge -- -- I think I saw my signature somewhere in Chile I have been searching for it for quite a while sarge@cs.uq.oz.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 01:36:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17074; Wed, 31 Aug 94 01:36:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22427; Wed, 31 Aug 94 01:24:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22421; Wed, 31 Aug 94 01:24:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfkcD-00001TC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 01:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: probs reading MH folder (and can I write in MH format? (+more??)) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 14:42:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I have determined the cause of the problem reading MH folders via imapd on Solaris. The imapd binary for Solaris which we distributed was bad. This is caused by a known problem in which a SVR4 program on Solaris can be lunk with the BSD compatibility libraries without any error being reported. The structures returned by readdir() on BSD and Solaris are very similar; the filenames are offset by two bytes. It's an environmental problem, based upon your path and evidentally the phase of the moon and the blood type of the guy doing the build. Haven't figured it out yet, although we've chased a lot of false clues. Anyone who builds Pine on Solaris from sources should be aware of this problem. You can see whether or not the build was correct by checking the results of expanding a folder collection; if the first two characters are missing, the bug has bit. Be sure to check both local and IMAP access; this time Pine was fine and imapd was broken. Corrected imapd-bin.solaris and imapd-bin.solaris.Z files are now on ftp.cac.washington.edu. All the pre-built binaries should run correctly. We apologize for the difficulty. -- Mark -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 02:08:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17792; Wed, 31 Aug 94 02:08:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22847; Wed, 31 Aug 94 01:56:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22841; Wed, 31 Aug 94 01:56:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfl9s-00000PC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 01:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Does Pine handle splitted mails? Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 22:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <340l87$rgv@watnews1.watson.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <340l87$rgv@watnews1.watson.ibm.com> Pine does not yet re-assemble message/partials, but we plan to implement it in the future. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 31 Aug 1994, Farzad FARID wrote: > Some MIME mail programs send an mail and its attachements in multiple > parts if they're bigger than a given size (32 Kb for example). Does Pine > handle these splitted mails correctly and if not will a future release > do it? > > -- > Farzad Farid, 37-012. Tel: (914) 945-2175, tie 862-2175 > NetDoor/CORE Support. > IBM T.J. Watson Research Center, Yorktown Heights NY. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 02:08:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17802; Wed, 31 Aug 94 02:08:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22855; Wed, 31 Aug 94 01:57:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22849; Wed, 31 Aug 94 01:57:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfl94-000008C; Wed, 31 Aug 94 01:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Postpone key doesn't work. Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 22:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: It sounds like some communication software or hardware is intercepting the ^O and altering it. This could be a terminal emulator, a terminal server, communications switch, etc. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 30 Aug 1994, Dion Vansevenant wrote: > > Hi folks. First off, I have to say this again, Pine Team...3.90 is wonderful! > > Now, I was having a problem under 3.86 that I was hoping would be solved > in 3.90. It seems that my ^O key responds as ^C under Pine. I tried > changing terminal types, but this does not seem to help. > > I was originally defined as vt100, now I'm using ansi. Under the ansi > setting pressing ^O moves me to the next word. Any suggestions? > > Dion > > *----------------------------------------------* > | Dion Vansevenant stu2@faxon.ca | > | Systems Administrator | > | Faxon/SMS Canada Ltd. (519) 472-1006 voice | > | P.O. Box 2382 (519) 472-1072 fax | > | London, ON | > | Canada N6A 5A7 | > *----------------------------------------------* > > If you don't change your direction - you're bound to end up where you're headed. > - Chinese Proverb > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 02:28:19 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18253; Wed, 31 Aug 94 02:28:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23608; Wed, 31 Aug 94 02:16:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23602; Wed, 31 Aug 94 02:16:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qflXk-000008C; Wed, 31 Aug 94 02:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: No body suspension Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 22:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Do you have "enable-suspend" turned on or off in your .pinerc/pine.conf file? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Shahjehan Khatri wrote: > I can suspend Pine 3.89 (Solaris version) while composing a message if I > press ^Z in the header section. However, I get "Unknown Command: ^Z" > if I do so in the "Message Text" area. > > Any hints? > > Incidentally, a hearty thanks to The Pine Team for Pine 3.89! It may not > be as good as Pine 3.90, but hey!... = ) We've put tons of people here > on it. Thanks again and again.... > > -- > > "Treat every man according to his desert, and who shall scape a > whipping? Treat them after your own honor and dignity. The less they > deserve, the more merit is in your bounty." > > -- From _Hamlet_ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 02:39:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18508; Wed, 31 Aug 94 02:39:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23211; Wed, 31 Aug 94 02:27:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail.nada.kth.se by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23205; Wed, 31 Aug 94 02:27:53 -0700 Received: from staff.nada.kth.se by mail.nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA02601; Wed, 31 Aug 94 11:27:50 +0200 Message-Id: <9408310927.AA02601@nada.kth.se> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: MH-format and flags - not implemented? In-Reply-To: from "Xander Jansen " "Tue, 30 Aug 1994 09:56:29 GMT " Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 11:27:49 +0200 From: Peter Svanberg Quoting: Xander Jansen > > : Q2. Writing MH folders: > : Can I save messages to my mailhome via IMAPD in MH format? (it > : probably already works -- after my MH folder reading problem, I just > : didn't dare try this) > > Yes, did it quite a few times now. The only problem sofar was that > Pine/IMAP seems to have a problem with creating a folder for postponed > or fcc messages if that folder doesn't exist yet. Creating folders > from the folder-list works. Deleting folders fails, I think because > the standard .mh-sequences file isn't removed by the MH-driver so a > rmdir of the folder gracefully fails. Yes, the .mh-sequences file doesn't seem to be handled, explaining why (permanent) flags handling doesn't work with MH at all, right Mark? (At least for me it doesn't.) If this is correct, I think it should be mentioned in the documentation. > But from what I've seen now Pine 3.90 makes a good candidate as yet > another mailreader in our office (with a basic rule: mail is stored on > a central machine in MH-style folders, how you read them is up to you). (Maybe not a very good candidate, given the above?) --- Peter Svanberg, NADA, KTH Email: psv@nada.kth.se Dept of Num An & CS, Royal Inst of Tech Phone: +46 8 790 71 40 S-100 44 Stockholm, SWEDEN Fax: +46 8 790 09 30 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 03:23:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19729; Wed, 31 Aug 94 03:23:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23825; Wed, 31 Aug 94 03:12:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23819; Wed, 31 Aug 94 03:12:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfmKz-00000PC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 02:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: viljanen@cc.Helsinki.FI (Lea Viljanen) Subject: Any way to get just-send-8-bit with Pine? Date: 31 Aug 1994 12:04:39 +0300 Message-Id: <341h37$s77@serifos.Helsinki.FI> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit University of Helsinki has gone totally 8bit in e-mail and news, using ISO Latin1 as the default character set. Now, the only problem is Pine, who wants to code everything written in Finnish with QUOTED-PRINTABLE. Almost all our mail agents are MIME-capable, so it is not all that big of a problem, but we'd like to turn that feature off nonetheless. For example, people can't use normal tools to access their sent-folders and now with Pine 3.90, all news written with Pine to Finnish newsgroups are QP'ed. Which is not a good thing since news readers are not that far advanced with MIME-support. So, is there a simple way to switch QP off and get standard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit messages? Or do I have to hack into the code to get this? P.S. For e-mail going out of University of Helsinki, we have a swedish program called Emil linked with sendmail to get the QP-encoding for non-8BITMIME hosts. -- Lea 'LadyBug' Viljanen I "Helsinki made Amsterdam seem like the Vatican!" Lea.Viljanen@Helsinki.FI I "Finnish is based ... on the Turkic languages" Computing Centre I - More gems from wozzel@aol.com in finet.sex From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 03:24:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19760; Wed, 31 Aug 94 03:24:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24389; Wed, 31 Aug 94 03:12:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24383; Wed, 31 Aug 94 03:12:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfmOj-00000QC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 02:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ph10@cus.cam.ac.uk (Philip Hazel) Subject: Re: building pine on solaris 2.3 Date: 31 Aug 1994 09:23:30 GMT Message-Id: <341i6i$rlf@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: In article , mitch@unidata.ucar.edu (Mitch Baltuch) writes: |> |> has anyone managed to build pine on solaris 2.3 with the ansi compiler? |> neither pico or pine will build. i tried using gcc and pico would build, |> but pine still failed. I built Pine 3.90 yesterday without any trouble at all, using Sun's ANSI compiler. This is what I did: . Edited pine/osdep/os-sv4.h and made 3 changes: . Set the locations of the pine global configuration files; . De-commented the setting of ANSI; . Commented the null definition of "const". . Edited pine/makefile.sol and made one change: . Commented out the compiler flag setting for -g -DDEBUG. . Typed "build sol" at top level. I have been using it without any problems ever since. -- Philip Hazel University Computing Service, ph10@cus.cam.ac.uk New Museums Site, Cambridge CB2 3QG, P.Hazel@ucs.cam.ac.uk England. Phone: +44 1223 334714 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 03:39:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20287; Wed, 31 Aug 94 03:39:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23998; Wed, 31 Aug 94 03:27:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23992; Wed, 31 Aug 94 03:27:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfmYX-000008C; Wed, 31 Aug 94 03:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Cornelius Subject: Re: make errors in solaris Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 10:30:38 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 29 Aug 1994, Nelson CHIN wrote: > can someone help me with this, which i'm trying to build on a solaris: > Making Pine. > cc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" -c addrbook.c > "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 171: identifier redeclared: rename > current : function(pointer to char, pointer to char) returning int > previous: function(pointer to const char, pointer to const char) > returning int : "/usr/include/stdio.h", line 112 > ... You will get these errrors if you are using Sun's C compiler. You need to ensure that you are running Sun's C compiler with the -Xs option: cc -Xs -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" -c addrbook.c When compiling the Pine 3.90 distribution for SunOS 5.3 (a part of Solaris 2.3), I make sure that the setting of PATH includes a directory that contains a file called cc that contains the following script: #!/bin/sh echo Using /opt/SUNWspro/bin/cc -Xs $* /opt/SUNWspro/bin/cc -Xs $* -- Barry Cornelius Telephone: (0191 or +44 191) 374 4717 IT Service, Science Site, IT Service Office: (0191 or +44 191) 374 2892 University of Durham, Fax: (0191 or +44 191) 374 3741 Durham, DH1 3LE, UK E-mail: Barry.Cornelius@durham.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 04:24:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22122; Wed, 31 Aug 94 04:24:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25451; Wed, 31 Aug 94 04:12:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25445; Wed, 31 Aug 94 04:12:40 -0700 Received: from aisws2.cern.ch by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25555; Wed, 31 Aug 94 04:12:38 -0700 Received: by aisws2.cern.ch (5.0/SMI-4.0) id AA03775; Wed, 31 Aug 1994 13:12:11 --100 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 13:12:11 --100 From: amills@aisws2 (Adrian (Shaky) Mills) Message-Id: <9408311112.AA03775@aisws2.cern.ch> Subject: Please ignore - This is a test Apparently-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Content-Length: 5 Test From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 04:25:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22207; Wed, 31 Aug 94 04:25:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25477; Wed, 31 Aug 94 04:13:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25471; Wed, 31 Aug 94 04:13:57 -0700 Received: from aisws2.cern.ch by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25567; Wed, 31 Aug 94 04:13:56 -0700 Received: by aisws2.cern.ch (5.0/SMI-4.0) id AA03778; Wed, 31 Aug 1994 13:13:37 --100 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 13:13:37 --100 From: amills@work.cern.ch Message-Id: <9408311113.AA03778@aisws2.cern.ch> Subject: Please ignore - This is another test Apparently-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Content-Length: 7 Test 2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 04:55:34 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23113; Wed, 31 Aug 94 04:55:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25954; Wed, 31 Aug 94 04:47:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25948; Wed, 31 Aug 94 04:47:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfnst-000008C; Wed, 31 Aug 94 04:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rodrigol@biomaster.uio.no (Rodrigo Lopez) Subject: Pine & nntp server Date: 31 Aug 1994 08:15:18 GMT Message-Id: <341e6m$9fk@hermod.uio.no> Hurray for pine 3.90!!!! Thanks to the pine development team....but I need some help trying to sort out usenet news reading: After configuring the our news server with pine I get the following error when attempting to read in the news groups: [Can't connect to hermod.uio.no,143: Connection refused] I have been unable to find out what this error actually means. Hermod.uio.no is our nntp server and runs as most on port 119. Does anyone have a clue as to what I'm doing wrong? Thanks! R:) -- *************************************************************************** * RODRIGO LOPEZ SERRANO rodrigol@biotek.uio.no * * Norwegian EMBnet node Tel:xx-47-22958756 Fax:xx-47-22694130 * * gopher= biomaster.uio.no 70 WWW= http://biomaster.uio.no/ * *************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 05:12:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23716; Wed, 31 Aug 94 05:12:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26274; Wed, 31 Aug 94 05:06:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from scorpio.gold.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26268; Wed, 31 Aug 94 05:05:59 -0700 Received: from pc438.gold.ac.uk by gold.ac.uk; Wed, 31 Aug 94 13:05:35 BST Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 13:05:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Guy Boanas To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bounce command in Winsock Pine X-Sender: guy@scorpio.gold.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When trying to bounce a message in the winsock version of pine all I manage to bounce is the message header (enable-bounce-cmd is checked) and not the body text. Has anyone else had this problem? Guy Boanas From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 05:39:14 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24853; Wed, 31 Aug 94 05:39:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26708; Wed, 31 Aug 94 05:32:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26700; Wed, 31 Aug 94 05:32:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfob1-00000eC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 05:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wwar@lostlink.alt.za (Warwick Ward-Cox) Subject: Disable the debug feature? Message-Id: <1994Aug31.075634.12801@lostlink.alt.za> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 07:56:34 GMT Howdy, I have installed pine 3.90 onto my system now and I want to stop it from creating these debug files .pine-debug?, is there a switch to turn it off or how do I go about it? Thanks in advance Warwick -- --- --------------------------------------------------------------- | Warwick Ward-Cox Email : wwar@lostlink.alt.za | | Sysop of Lost Link Fidonet : 5:7102/134 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 05:40:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24916; Wed, 31 Aug 94 05:40:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26070; Wed, 31 Aug 94 05:32:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26062; Wed, 31 Aug 94 05:32:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfoaq-00000dC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 05:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wwar@lostlink.alt.za (Warwick Ward-Cox) Subject: Newsgroups - How to post articles to local server? Message-Id: <1994Aug31.071251.12583@lostlink.alt.za> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 07:12:51 GMT Hi, I am running pine 3.90, but can't seem to post messages to my newsgroups, it keeps coming up saying "no server defined for newsgroups" even if I put in my domain name in the nntp-server option it doesn't work. Basically I am running Linux, cnews, pine 3.90.. Anyone? Thanks, Warwick -- --- --------------------------------------------------------------- | Warwick Ward-Cox Email : wwar@lostlink.alt.za | | Sysop of Lost Link Fidonet : 5:7102/134 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 06:15:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25844; Wed, 31 Aug 94 06:15:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26725; Wed, 31 Aug 94 06:09:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26719; Wed, 31 Aug 94 06:09:26 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 31 Aug 94 21:07:01 -0800 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 21:07:00 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Warwick Ward-Cox Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Newsgroups - How to post articles to local server? In-Reply-To: <1994Aug31.071251.12583@lostlink.alt.za> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Warwick Ward-Cox wrote: > I am running pine 3.90, but can't seem to post messages to my newsgroups, > it keeps coming up saying "no server defined for newsgroups" even if I > put in my domain name in the nntp-server option it doesn't work. You need to put the name of a "host" that is acting as an NNTP server. Not your domain name. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 06:20:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25971; Wed, 31 Aug 94 06:20:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26786; Wed, 31 Aug 94 06:13:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26780; Wed, 31 Aug 94 06:13:11 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 31 Aug 94 21:10:49 -0800 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 21:10:48 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Warwick Ward-Cox Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Disable the debug feature? In-Reply-To: <1994Aug31.075634.12801@lostlink.alt.za> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Warwick Ward-Cox wrote: > I have installed pine 3.90 onto my system now and I want to stop it from > creating these debug files .pine-debug?, is there a switch to turn it off > or how do I go about it? Well, yes there is...and had you spent a little time reading the help screens you may have found it.... :-) Try typing "pine -h" and notice all the switches that are available. Guess what "pine -d 0" does.... Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 06:21:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26055; Wed, 31 Aug 94 06:21:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26815; Wed, 31 Aug 94 06:15:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from leeman.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26809; Wed, 31 Aug 94 06:15:04 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by leeman.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <21712-0@leeman.york.ac.uk>; Wed, 31 Aug 1994 14:04:17 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for @leeman.york.ac.uk:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA17898; Wed, 31 Aug 94 14:14:22 +0100 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 14:14:21 +0000 From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk To: Warwick Ward-Cox Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Disable the debug feature? In-Reply-To: <1994Aug31.075634.12801@lostlink.alt.za> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII As things stand I believe you can suppress the debug files by adding "-d 0" to your Pine command line: pine -d 0 Alternatively you should recompile it without the -DDEBUG option to the C compiler. This will omit all debugging code from the compiled binary (ie, the "-d levelno" option to Pine will not have any effect) Here I have compiled up Pine without debugging for general release, and recompile a version WITH debugging as/when the need arises (very rarely!). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Brudenell E-mail: pmb1@unix.york.ac.uk The Computing Service Phone: (+44) 904 433811 University of York FAX: (+44) 904 432767 Heslington York YO1 5DD U.K. On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Warwick Ward-Cox wrote: > Howdy, > > I have installed pine 3.90 onto my system now and I want to stop it from > creating these debug files .pine-debug?, is there a switch to turn it off > or how do I go about it? > > Thanks in advance > Warwick > -- > > --- --------------------------------------------------------------- > | Warwick Ward-Cox Email : wwar@lostlink.alt.za | > | Sysop of Lost Link Fidonet : 5:7102/134 | > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 06:36:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26403; Wed, 31 Aug 94 06:36:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27005; Wed, 31 Aug 94 06:29:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26999; Wed, 31 Aug 94 06:28:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfpRY-00000wC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 06:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scottp@herald.usask.ca (Peter Scott) Subject: Pine 3.90 demo access via telnet Date: 31 Aug 1994 12:32:28 GMT Message-Id: <341t8s$kcc@tribune.usask.ca> You can demo version 3.90 via telnet to demo.cac.washington.edu (login: pinedemo) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 06:43:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26630; Wed, 31 Aug 94 06:43:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27159; Wed, 31 Aug 94 06:37:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail.nada.kth.se by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27151; Wed, 31 Aug 94 06:37:34 -0700 Received: from staff.nada.kth.se by mail.nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA09319; Wed, 31 Aug 94 15:37:27 +0200 Message-Id: <9408311337.AA09319@nada.kth.se> To: viljanen@cc.helsinki.fi (Lea Viljanen) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Any way to get just-send-8-bit with Pine? In-Reply-To: <341h37$s77@serifos.Helsinki.FI> from "viljanen@cc.Helsinki.FI (Lea Viljanen) " "31 Aug 1994 12:04:39 +0300 " Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 15:37:26 +0200 From: Peter Svanberg Quoting: viljanen@cc.Helsinki.FI (Lea Viljanen) > > So, is there a simple way to switch QP off and get standard > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > messages? Or do I have to hack into the code to get this? No and yes... We have almost the same problem, and I am working on a patch for it. --- Peter Svanberg, NADA, KTH Email: psv@nada.kth.se Dept of Num An & CS, Royal Inst of Tech Phone: +46 8 790 71 40 S-100 44 Stockholm, SWEDEN Fax: +46 8 790 09 30 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 06:44:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26679; Wed, 31 Aug 94 06:44:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27145; Wed, 31 Aug 94 06:37:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from atlantic by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27139; Wed, 31 Aug 94 06:37:11 -0700 Received: by atlantic (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA13691; Wed, 31 Aug 1994 09:38:11 +0500 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 09:38:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lisa M. Frye" X-Sender: frye@atlantic To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: read-message-folder Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 757 I just compile pine 3.90 (on Soalris 2.3). I have in my .pinerc file the auto-move-read-msgs feature set. I also have read-message-folder=1read set. When I quit pine, it panics just after "about to end tty" message in .pine-debug file. If I comment out the line "read-message-folder=1read" in my .pinerc file, everything works just fine (except it does not move my read messages). This worked fine on pine3.89. Any ideas? TIA Lisa Frye frye@kutztown.edu Network Software Specialist LMS Annex Room 105 Kutztown University phone: 610-683-4474 Kutztown, PA. 19530 fax: 610-683-4634 "You can bring a person to the university, but you can't make him think." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 06:59:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27074; Wed, 31 Aug 94 06:59:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27983; Wed, 31 Aug 94 06:52:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27975; Wed, 31 Aug 94 06:52:41 -0700 Received: from genesis.tdhca.texas.gov by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28057; Wed, 31 Aug 94 06:52:40 -0700 Received: by genesis.tdhca.texas.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA22163; Wed, 31 Aug 1994 08:51:55 +0100 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 08:51:55 +0100 (GDT) From: Alex Maldonado To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help with PC-Pine / IMAP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 30 Aug 1994, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Tue, 30 Aug 1994, Alex Maldonado wrote: > > > Where can I get help on PC-Pine and IMAP ? > > I can't get PC-Pine to connect to my server ! > > You've come to the right newsgroup/mailing list. > > Now all you need to do is send a follow-up message with details > of your problems. As always, be as specific as possible and you > chances of receiving an answer will be greatly increased. > > Ed > > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > Thanks ! Well here's what I get when I run (the new winsocks) PC-Pine: [Can't connect to genesis.tdhca.texas.gov,143: Refused (10061)] And I already included IMAPd on our server (and thought I had it running under "inetd" on port 143 !) So I don't know what I'm missing. I've got the sockets on my PC and IMAP on the server... Can someone help? Thank you ! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 07:11:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27480; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:11:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28169; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:04:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28163; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:04:22 -0700 Received: from genesis.tdhca.texas.gov by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28241; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:04:21 -0700 Received: by genesis.tdhca.texas.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA14334; Wed, 31 Aug 1994 09:03:37 +0100 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 09:03:37 +0100 (GDT) From: Alex Maldonado To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 30 Aug 1994, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Tue, 30 Aug 1994, Alex Maldonado wrote: > > > Where can I get help on PC-Pine and IMAP ? > > I can't get PC-Pine to connect to my server ! > > You've come to the right newsgroup/mailing list. > > Now all you need to do is send a follow-up message with details > of your problems. As always, be as specific as possible and you > chances of receiving an answer will be greatly increased. > > Ed > > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > Thanks ! Well here's what I get when I run (the new winsocks) PC-Pine: [Can't connect to genesis.tdhca.texas.gov,143: Refused (10061)] And I already included IMAPd on our server (and thought I had it running under "inetd" on port 143 !) So I don't know what I'm missing. I've got the sockets on my PC and IMAP on the server... Can someone help? Thank you ! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 07:13:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27540; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:13:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28215; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:06:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ousrvr.oulu.fi by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28209; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:06:05 -0700 Received: from paju.oulu.fi by oulu.fi (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06196; Wed, 31 Aug 94 17:05:56 +0300 Received: by paju.oulu.fi (931110.SGI/930416.SGI.AUTO) for @ousrvr.oulu.fi:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA05558; Wed, 31 Aug 94 17:05:55 +0300 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 17:05:52 +0200 From: Marko Hotti To: Pine-Info Mailing List Subject: Select current doesn't advance Message-Id: Posting-Frequency: semi-irregularly X-Mailer: PINE 3.90 (August 28th 1994) X-Ircnick: TechMan Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! I like the new version of Pine a lot but there are some annoying little shortcomings. Here's one: I want to select messages for group action (Apply-Save for instance) and now I have to press two keys to select one message! Ok, one gets used to that but then I have to press to advance in the list. In the next release of Pine there definitely should be a way to select the current message with *one* key and pressing this key should advance in the list. -=Marko=- PS Anyway, I'll stick to Pine 3.90 - It *is* great!!! :-) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Marko Hotti University of Oulu Faculty of Medicine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 07:29:49 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27865; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:29:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28518; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:22:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from gmlink.gmeds.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28512; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:21:57 -0700 Received: from earth.troy.eng.eds.com by gmlink.gmeds.com with SMTP id AA29116 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 1.1 for ); Wed, 31 Aug 1994 10:20:56 -0400 Message-Id: <199408311420.AA29116@gmlink.gmeds.com> Received: from majorca (majorca.troy.eng.eds.com) by earth.troy.eng.eds.com (4.1/AE-1.0) id AA26857; Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:20:56 EDT Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 10:22:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Jason Cross Subject: oops! To: pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Could someone resend the latest features of 3.90? I believe I deleted it. ciao, Jason Cross EDS Troy, Mi. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 07:33:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28052; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:33:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28588; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:26:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28582; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:26:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfqJ8-00000xC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: myhsu@db39.ee.ncu.edu.tw (Ming-Yen Hsu) Subject: Address book in Pine Message-Id: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 13:28:24 GMT Hi, I have encountered some problems while handling mail sent from mailing list. The mail came from mailing list has a header like this "To: fvwm" or "Cc: fvwm". When I read this message in Pine, the address of "To:" or "Cc" became "To: fvwm@db39.ee.ncu.edu.tw" which should be "fvwm@shrug.org". Is it the fault of mailing list or I haven't set the Pine right? I have added a nickname "fvmn" in address book and enable the "user-lookup-if-domain- mismatch" already. Thanks. -- Ming-Yen, Database Lab. ---------- giving you the best that I got -- Computer Science & Information Eng. voice: ........ 886-3-4227151x4504 National Central University, Taiwan fax: ........ 886-3-4227151x4508 -- MIME and BIG5 accepted ---------- email: .. myhsu@db39.ee.ncu.edu.tw From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 07:39:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28401; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:39:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28762; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:33:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28756; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:33:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfqRO-000011C; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rodrigol@biomaster.uio.no (Rodrigo Lopez) Subject: A note on biomed .... Date: 31 Aug 1994 13:38:45 GMT Message-Id: <342155$b59@hermod.uio.no> Dear Users, As of 12.00, August 1st 1994 biomed will no longer be available. LONG LIVE BIOMED !!!!!!!! R:) -- *************************************************************************** * RODRIGO LOPEZ SERRANO rodrigol@biotek.uio.no * * Norwegian EMBnet node Tel:xx-47-22958756 Fax:xx-47-22694130 * * gopher= biomaster.uio.no 70 WWW= http://biomaster.uio.no/ * *************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 07:39:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28453; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:39:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28135; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:33:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28129; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:32:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfqQ5-00000pC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: faridf@watson.ibm.com (Farzad FARID) Subject: Does Pine handle splitted mails? Date: 31 Aug 1994 01:09:27 GMT Message-Id: <340l87$rgv@watnews1.watson.ibm.com> Some MIME mail programs send an mail and its attachements in multiple parts if they're bigger than a given size (32 Kb for example). Does Pine handle these splitted mails correctly and if not will a future release do it? -- Farzad Farid, 37-012. Tel: (914) 945-2175, tie 862-2175 NetDoor/CORE Support. IBM T.J. Watson Research Center, Yorktown Heights NY. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 07:45:27 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28611; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:45:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28317; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:40:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28311; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:40:51 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 31 Aug 94 22:38:29 -0800 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 22:38:29 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Alex Maldonado Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help with PC-Pine / IMAP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Alex Maldonado wrote: > Well here's what I get when I run (the new winsocks) PC-Pine: > > [Can't connect to genesis.tdhca.texas.gov,143: Refused (10061)] > > And I already included IMAPd on our server (and thought I had it > running under "inetd" on port 143 !) > So I don't know what I'm missing. I've got the sockets on my PC and IMAP > on the server... After you made the necessary changes to your system...added the entry in the /etc/services file...added the entry in the inetd.conf file...you did a kill -1 on the inetd process? Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 07:59:29 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29045; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:59:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29034; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:49:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29025; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:49:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfqYO-000014C; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nick@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Nick Eggleston) Subject: Pine 3.90 disappearing incoming folder. Date: 31 Aug 1994 09:27:02 -0400 Message-Id: <3420f6$mdl@ucunix.san.uc.edu> In my .pinerc file, I have the following entry: incoming-folders=unix-in-imap {ucunix.san.uc.edu}inbox, cubbyhole-in {cubbyhole.bch.uc.edu}inbox, unix-in-direct inbox, beecher-in {ucbeh.san.uc.edu}inbox I run pine (3.90) while I am logged in to ucunix. The unix-in-direct entry does not appear in the Incoming Message Folders selection area. Why not? -- Nick Eggleston nick.eggleston@uc.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 08:02:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29194; Wed, 31 Aug 94 08:02:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28448; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:49:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28442; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:49:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfqYi-000016C; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nick@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Nick Eggleston) Subject: Pine 3.90 solaris: Recieved Abort Signal Date: 31 Aug 1994 09:35:15 -0400 Message-Id: <3420uj$nbj@ucunix.san.uc.edu> I am running the precompiled version of 3.90 for solaris. When I run as root there are no problems, but when I run as myself it gives me a "Received abort signal" message and dumps core---every time. Here is the .pine-debug file: Debug output of the Pine program (at debug level 2). Version 3.90 Wed Aug 31 09:23:48 1994 reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf" Open failed: No such file or directory reading_pinerc "/export/home/nick/.pinerc" Read 5433 characters: reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed" Open failed: No such file or directory ========== Current_val options set ========== inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : mail/[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lp last-time-prune-ques : 94.8 last-version-used : 3.90 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ========== Command_line_val options set ========== ========== User_val (pinerc) options set ========== last-time-prune-ques : 94.8 last-version-used : 3.90 ========== Global_val (pine.conf) options set ========== inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lp bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ========== Fixed_val (pine.conf.fixed, overrides all) options set ========== ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd no-enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface no-signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys no-user-lookup-even-if-domain-mismatch Userid: nick Fullname: "" User domain name being used "" Local Domain name being used "bch.uc.edu" Host name being used "cubbyhole.bch.uc.edu" Mail Domain name being used "cubbyhole.bch.uc.edu" MAILCAP: file: "/export/home/nick/.mailcap" MAILCAP: Cannot read file /export/home/nick/.mailcap MAILCAP: file: "/etc/mailcap" MAILCAP: Cannot read file /etc/mailcap new win size -----<38 78>------ Terminal type: sun-cmd Context mail/[] type: LOCAL About to open folder "INBOX" inbox: "INBOX" about to end_tty_driver Pine Panic: Received abort signal -- Nick Eggleston nick.eggleston@uc.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 08:05:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29352; Wed, 31 Aug 94 08:05:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28603; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:57:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28597; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:57:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfqrH-00000PC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 07:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jan Snellman Subject: When will pine be truly MIME-compliant? Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 15:48:34 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It seems that MIME does not really understand the message/external-body subtype: viewing the FAQ-pointer in the comp.mail.mime newsgroup, I could not automatically retrieve the FAQs with ftp. GNUS with metamail support handles this correctly. Furthermore, it would be very nice if RFC 1522, that allows ISOLATIN characters in message headers, would be implemented. I get a lot of messages from Eudora users; they look kind of strange with the raw Q encoding. Jan Snellman : "Whenever you find that you are on the side of the jans@matematik.su.se : majority, it is time to reform." M T From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 08:25:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00287; Wed, 31 Aug 94 08:25:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29637; Wed, 31 Aug 94 08:17:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from scorpio.gold.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29629; Wed, 31 Aug 94 08:17:39 -0700 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 16:17:23 +0100 (BST) From: Guy Boanas Reply-To: Guy Boanas Subject: Winsock Pine 3.90 and PC-NFS To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Has anyone managed to get the Winsock Pine working with PC-NFS versions 5.0 or 5.1? I can't -- while I can read the remote folders any operation on them (especially forward or mail) hangs the machine. This does not happen when I use the Beame and Whiteside TCP/IP stack. Any configuration pointers would be appreciated. Guy Boanas guy@gold.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 08:48:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01388; Wed, 31 Aug 94 08:48:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29612; Wed, 31 Aug 94 08:40:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ultrix.ramapo.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29606; Wed, 31 Aug 94 08:40:50 -0700 Received: by ultrix (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA14948; Wed, 31 Aug 1994 11:40:47 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 11:40:47 -0400 From: smann@ultrix.ramapo.edu (Steve-"Ill build your dreams with these 2 hands") Message-Id: <9408311540.AA14948@ultrix> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Compiling on Ultrix I am hearing all these wonderful things about Pine 3.90. Now what I don't get is why I am having problems with compiling. There seems to be the necessary setup for Ultrix which I am obviously running, but I still get there errors. The linker error below is the first with the undefined *drivers. I have no clue where to go from here. Then it is looking for ./bin/imapd which I have no clue what to do with. Any help would be greatly appreciated. ld: Undefined: mtxdriver tenexdriver make[3]: *** [mtest] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/pub/pine3.89/pine3.90/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' make[2]: *** [ult] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/pub/pine3.89/pine3.90/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' make[1]: *** [build] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/pub/pine3.89/pine3.90/imap' make: *** [ult] Error 2 Making Pico make: Nothing to be done for `all'. size: cannot open bin/imapd Thank you much in advance. Steve "If you choose not to decide, you'll still have made a choice..." -RUSH George Wood (gwood@indirect.com), PhD says "Hey Beavis, give credit where it's due: rush stole that line from William James, and the idea goes back at least to Kierkegaard." ================================================================== / Steve M Insignificant message goes here \ | CCIS: 529-7500 x7922 \|||/ | | Home: 722-1632 0 * | | Beeper: 1-800-502-2775 or 201-909-1575 oo0 ^ 0oo | | Email: smann@ultrix.ramapo.edu ~~~~~~~~~ | \ This line left blank for no reason / ================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 08:49:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01417; Wed, 31 Aug 94 08:49:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00444; Wed, 31 Aug 94 08:43:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00438; Wed, 31 Aug 94 08:43:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfrUj-00000bC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 08:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rodrigol@biomaster.uio.no (Rodrigo Lopez) Subject: Re: A note on biomed .... Date: 31 Aug 1994 14:36:41 GMT Message-Id: <3424hp$c3b@hermod.uio.no> References: <342155$b59@hermod.uio.no> I appologise so much for the previous message into the wrong newsgroup! R:) -- *************************************************************************** * RODRIGO LOPEZ SERRANO rodrigol@biotek.uio.no * * Norwegian EMBnet node Tel:xx-47-22958756 Fax:xx-47-22694130 * * gopher= biomaster.uio.no 70 WWW= http://biomaster.uio.no/ * *************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 09:48:27 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05636; Wed, 31 Aug 94 09:48:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01560; Wed, 31 Aug 94 09:42:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01554; Wed, 31 Aug 94 09:42:13 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17711; Wed, 31 Aug 94 09:42:12 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02296; Wed, 31 Aug 94 09:03:06 -0700 Received: from chenas.inria.fr by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00305; Wed, 31 Aug 94 09:03:02 -0700 Received: from sirius.cerfacs.fr by chenas.inria.fr (5.65c8d/92.02.29) via Fnet-EUnet id AA19235; Wed, 31 Aug 1994 18:02:58 +0200 (MET) Received: from albedo (albedo.cerfacs.fr) by sirius.cerfacs.fr with SMTP id AA12692 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info-approval@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 31 Aug 1994 18:09:34 +0200 Received: by albedo (cerfacs-dns.920820 ) Wed, 31 Aug 94 18:01:42 +0200 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 18:00:31 +0200 (MDT) From: Eric Guilyardi Subject: install on SGI 5.2 To: pine-info-approval@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 09:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Hi, I wonder if pine was ever installed on the new SGI Indy 5.2 system ? I have problem compiling ... Thanks Eric Eric Guilyardi | (ericg@cerfacs.fr) CERFACS - Global Change Team | (+33) 61.19.30.76 31057 Toulouse Cedex - FRANCE | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 09:53:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05816; Wed, 31 Aug 94 09:53:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01661; Wed, 31 Aug 94 09:45:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from atlantic by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01655; Wed, 31 Aug 94 09:45:33 -0700 Received: by atlantic (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA18536; Wed, 31 Aug 1994 12:46:14 +0500 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 12:46:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lisa M. Frye" X-Sender: frye@atlantic To: Nick Eggleston Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 solaris: Recieved Abort Signal In-Reply-To: <3420uj$nbj@ucunix.san.uc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 4979 I am having the same problem. It appears to be associated with the "auto-move-read-msgs" feature. That is as far as I have it debuged. If I delete the above feature and the "read-messages-folder" lines from the .pinerc file, then it works just fine. Lisa Frye frye@kutztown.edu Network Software Specialist LMS Annex Room 105 Kutztown University phone: 610-683-4474 Kutztown, PA. 19530 fax: 610-683-4634 "You can bring a person to the university, but you can't make him think." On 31 Aug 1994, Nick Eggleston wrote: > I am running the precompiled version of 3.90 for solaris. When I > run as root there are no problems, but when I run as myself it > gives me a "Received abort signal" message and dumps core---every > time. > > Here is the .pine-debug file: > > Debug output of the Pine program (at debug level 2). Version 3.90 > Wed Aug 31 09:23:48 1994 > > reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf" > Open failed: No such file or directory > reading_pinerc "/export/home/nick/.pinerc" > Read 5433 characters: > reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed" > Open failed: No such file or directory > ========== Current_val options set ========== > inbox-path : inbox > folder-collections : mail/[] > default-fcc : sent-mail > postponed-folder : postponed-msgs > mail-directory : mail > signature-file : .signature > address-book : .addressbook > saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder > fcc-name-rule : default-fcc > sort-key : arrival > addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last > use-only-domain-name : no > printer : attached-to-ansi > standard-printer : lp > last-time-prune-ques : 94.8 > last-version-used : 3.90 > bugs-fullname : Pine Developers > bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu > elm-style-save : no > header-in-reply : no > feature-level : sapling > old-style-reply : no > save-by-sender : no > ========== Command_line_val options set ========== > ========== User_val (pinerc) options set ========== > last-time-prune-ques : 94.8 > last-version-used : 3.90 > ========== Global_val (pine.conf) options set ========== > inbox-path : inbox > default-fcc : sent-mail > postponed-folder : postponed-msgs > mail-directory : mail > signature-file : .signature > address-book : .addressbook > saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder > fcc-name-rule : default-fcc > sort-key : arrival > addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last > use-only-domain-name : no > printer : attached-to-ansi > standard-printer : lp > bugs-fullname : Pine Developers > bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu > elm-style-save : no > header-in-reply : no > feature-level : sapling > old-style-reply : no > save-by-sender : no > ========== Fixed_val (pine.conf.fixed, overrides all) options set ========== > ========== Feature settings ========== > no-assume-slow-link > no-auto-move-read-msgs > no-auto-open-next-unread > no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm > no-delete-skips-deleted > no-disable-config-cmd > no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd > no-disable-password-cmd > no-disable-update-cmd > no-enable-aggregate-command-set > no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd > no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly > no-enable-bounce-cmd > no-enable-flag-cmd > no-enable-full-header-cmd > no-enable-incoming-folders > no-enable-jump-shortcut > no-enable-mail-check-cue > no-enable-suspend > no-enable-tab-completion > no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd > no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks > no-expanded-view-of-folders > no-expunge-without-confirm > no-include-attachments-in-reply > no-include-header-in-reply > no-include-text-in-reply > no-news-post-without-validation > no-news-read-in-newsrc-order > no-quit-without-confirm > no-save-will-quote-leading-froms > no-save-will-not-delete > no-save-will-advance > no-select-without-confirm > no-show-selected-in-boldface > no-signature-at-bottom > no-use-current-dir > no-use-function-keys > no-user-lookup-even-if-domain-mismatch > Userid: nick > Fullname: "" > User domain name being used "" > Local Domain name being used "bch.uc.edu" > Host name being used "cubbyhole.bch.uc.edu" > Mail Domain name being used "cubbyhole.bch.uc.edu" > MAILCAP: file: "/export/home/nick/.mailcap" > MAILCAP: Cannot read file /export/home/nick/.mailcap > MAILCAP: file: "/etc/mailcap" > MAILCAP: Cannot read file /etc/mailcap > new win size -----<38 78>------ > Terminal type: sun-cmd > Context mail/[] type: LOCAL > About to open folder "INBOX" inbox: "INBOX" > about to end_tty_driver > Pine Panic: Received abort signal > > > -- > Nick Eggleston > nick.eggleston@uc.edu > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 10:31:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07582; Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:31:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02495; Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:25:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02489; Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:25:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qft3v-00000bC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine & nntp server Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 08:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <341e6m$9fk@hermod.uio.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <341e6m$9fk@hermod.uio.no> It looks like you have a news-collection configured for IMAP access rather than NNTP access. You should have news-collections=*{hermod.uio.no/nntp}[*] ^^^^^ |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 31 Aug 1994, Rodrigo Lopez wrote: > > Hurray for pine 3.90!!!! > Thanks to the pine development team....but I need some help > trying to sort out usenet news reading: > > After configuring the our news server with pine I get > the following error when attempting to read in the news groups: > > [Can't connect to hermod.uio.no,143: Connection refused] > > I have been unable to find out what this error actually means. > Hermod.uio.no is our nntp server and runs as most on port 119. > > Does anyone have a clue as to what I'm doing wrong? > > Thanks! > > R:) > > -- > *************************************************************************** > * RODRIGO LOPEZ SERRANO rodrigol@biotek.uio.no * > * Norwegian EMBnet node Tel:xx-47-22958756 Fax:xx-47-22694130 * > * gopher= biomaster.uio.no 70 WWW= http://biomaster.uio.no/ * > *************************************************************************** > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 10:32:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07645; Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:32:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03463; Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:25:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03457; Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:25:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qft5F-00000QC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Any way to get just-send-8-bit with Pine? Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 08:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <341h37$s77@serifos.Helsinki.FI> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <341h37$s77@serifos.Helsinki.FI> Pine does not yet support 8BITMIME (as opposed to just-send-8-bit, which Pine will never support :) |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 31 Aug 1994, Lea Viljanen wrote: > University of Helsinki has gone totally 8bit in e-mail and > news, using ISO Latin1 as the default character set. Now, the > only problem is Pine, who wants to code everything written > in Finnish with QUOTED-PRINTABLE. > > Almost all our mail agents are MIME-capable, so it is not > all that big of a problem, but we'd like to turn that feature > off nonetheless. For example, people can't use normal tools > to access their sent-folders and now with Pine 3.90, all news > written with Pine to Finnish newsgroups are QP'ed. Which is > not a good thing since news readers are not that far advanced > with MIME-support. > > So, is there a simple way to switch QP off and get standard > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > messages? Or do I have to hack into the code to get this? > > P.S. For e-mail going out of University of Helsinki, we have > a swedish program called Emil linked with sendmail to > get the QP-encoding for non-8BITMIME hosts. > > -- > Lea 'LadyBug' Viljanen I "Helsinki made Amsterdam seem like the Vatican!" > Lea.Viljanen@Helsinki.FI I "Finnish is based ... on the Turkic languages" > Computing Centre I - More gems from wozzel@aol.com in finet.sex > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 10:33:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07728; Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:33:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02509; Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:25:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02503; Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:25:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qft6S-00000cC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rkl@csc.liv.ac.uk (Richard Lloyd) Subject: pine 3.90 doesn't build under HP-UX with +O3 optimisation Message-Id: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 15:54:12 GMT Just thought folks might like to know that the pine directory in pine-3.90 contains source code that doesn't build correctly with +O3 under HP-UX 9.X and HP's ANSI C compiler (Revision A.09.66). I haven't yet narrowed it down to an individual file, but I suggest HP-UX users reduce the optimisation to +O2 +Onolimit if they've tried +O3. Also, a couple of makefile.hpp's (in pico and pine) mention -Dhpp and -DHPP, but a quick grep for the use of these turns up nothing, so they seem to be irrelevant now. Plus, the files imap/ANSI/c-client/strstr.c and imap/ANSI/c-client/strol.c attempt to redefine strstr() and strtol(), both of which are available under HP-UX :-( BTW, there's an uninitialised variable in the pine-3.90 source code: pine/filter.c (line 681) - the c character is not given a value, so I used char c='\0'; to initialise it. If you want a version of pine 3.90 that compiles OK with HP-UX and the ANSI C compiler, then check out /hpux9/Users/pine-3.90.tar.gz on one of our official sites below. It also comes with an "elm-to-pine" alias converter script, some- thing the pine folks deliberately omitted ! HP-UX Archive Librarian, E-mail queries: ftp@csc.liv.ac.uk Computer Science Dept., Official anonymous FTP sites (get /README first): Liverpool University, United Kingdom: hpux.csc.liv.ac.uk [NEW NAME !!!] United Kingdom. Germany: hpux.ask.uni-karlsruhe.de United States: ftp.cae.wisc.edu Not got xbrowser 1.4 yet ? France: hpux.cict.fr You'll find it in Official World Wide Web sites: /hpux9/X11R5/Networking United Kingdom: http://hpux.csc.liv.ac.uk/intro.html Unisted States: http://www.cae.wisc.edu/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 10:35:28 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07942; Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:35:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02567; Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:29:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02561; Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:29:30 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 1 Sep 94 01:26:52 -0800 Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 01:26:51 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Ming-Yen Hsu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Address book in Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Ming-Yen Hsu wrote: > On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Ed Greshko wrote: > > I'm a bit confused as to exactly what your problem is...I don't > > know if you are having difficulty when sending or receiving. And I'm > > not clear on if the nickname in the address book is that of a "list" > > of people or if the nickname is pointing to fvmn@shrug.org. Would > > you try again? Sorry....maybe it is getting late and I'm worried > > about the approaching typhoon..... > > The nickname "fvwm" points to "fvwm@shrug.org". Following is the header > when I read the mail received from the fvwm mailing list: > > From ccsis@ss1.bath.ac.uk > Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 21:07:57 +0100 > From: Icarus Sparry > * To: donal@db39.ee.ncu.edu.tw > * Cc: fvwm@db39.ee.ncu.edu.tw > Subject: Re: M4 advantages & disadvantages > > And this is the full header of the same mail: (watch the header "To" and > "Cc") > ------------------------ > >From ccsis@ss1.bath.ac.uk > Return-Path: owner-fvwm@shrug.org > Received: from shrug (mailer@shrug.dur.ac.uk [129.234.24.22]) by db39.ee.ncu.edu.tw (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA01659 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 1994 08:11:26 +0800 > Received: (from mailer@localhost) by shrug (8.6.9/8.6.9) id VAA14655 for fvwm-outgoing; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 21:08:24 +0100 > Received: from tamarin.bath.ac.uk (pp@tamarin.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.3]) by shrug (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA14650 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 21:08:20 +0100 > Received: from ss1.bath.ac.uk by tamarin.bath.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) > id <26716-0@tamarin.bath.ac.uk>; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 21:07:56 +0100 > To: donal * here * > CC: fvwm * here * > Subject: Re: M4 advantages & disadvantages > In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Aug 1994 19:32:16 BST." <9408301832.AA18337@csws4.ucc.ie> > Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 21:07:57 +0100 > From: Icarus Sparry > Message-ID: <9408302107.aa08754@uk.ac.bath.ss1> > Sender: owner-fvwm@shrug.org > Precedence: bulk > Reply-To: Icarus Sparry > ------------------------------------------------- > > I didn't reply these "problem" mail actually, so I have no idea if they > would found their way home. > > The problem happened with the mail from "procmail list" too, if their > return address are not complete (such as "Cc: procmail" which should be > "Cc: procmail@at.some.where"). > > Thanks for you help again, and I have to buy some cookie and bread to > against the storm... :) > Well, there is nothing wrong with pine. The problem is at the user's end that sent out the message. The To: and Cc: fields should have been rewritten with the FQDN. Since they showed up without the right-hand side pine assumes (rightly so) that the address is a local address and (for show) appends the local information. Ed P.S. Good luck with the typhoon..... Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 10:53:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08634; Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:53:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02988; Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:45:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02978; Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:45:07 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 1 Sep 94 01:42:35 -0800 Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 01:42:35 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Jan Snellman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: When will pine be truly MIME-compliant? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello Jan, IMHO, pine *is* truly and fully compliant with the MIME standards. Compliance means that you implement all of the "required" aspects of the standard. It also means that your software shouldn't "break" when it encounters aspects that it does not support. There plans to support 1522 and other features of MIME. And when support is added for these features I fully expect that they will comply with the standard. Out of curiosity...can you tell us what UA implements "all" of the aspects of all of the RFCs related to MIME? Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 11:04:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09071; Wed, 31 Aug 94 11:04:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04304; Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:58:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04298; Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:58:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qftde-00000bC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Address book in Pine Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 09:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: There are several places that the bogus address might have been generated, including the mailing list manager and whatever mail transports the message passed through. The bottom line is that if Pine sees an address that is not complete, it has to guess how to complete it. In some cases this will be correct, in others it will not. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Ming-Yen Hsu wrote: > Hi, > I have encountered some problems while handling mail sent from mailing list. > > The mail came from mailing list has a header like this "To: fvwm" or "Cc: > fvwm". When I read this message in Pine, the address of "To:" or "Cc" became > "To: fvwm@db39.ee.ncu.edu.tw" which should be "fvwm@shrug.org". > > Is it the fault of mailing list or I haven't set the Pine right? I have added > a nickname "fvmn" in address book and enable the "user-lookup-if-domain- > mismatch" already. > > Thanks. > > -- Ming-Yen, Database Lab. ---------- giving you the best that I got -- > Computer Science & Information Eng. voice: ........ 886-3-4227151x4504 > National Central University, Taiwan fax: ........ 886-3-4227151x4508 > -- MIME and BIG5 accepted ---------- email: .. myhsu@db39.ee.ncu.edu.tw > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 11:23:38 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10052; Wed, 31 Aug 94 11:23:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03784; Wed, 31 Aug 94 11:16:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03778; Wed, 31 Aug 94 11:16:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qftpv-00000MC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 10:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: When will pine be truly MIME-compliant? Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 09:17:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine does meet the minimal conformance requirements of RFC1521. We have not yet completely implemented some of the optional subtypes, like message/external-body, but we are working on them. We also intend to support RFC1522 in a future release.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Jan Snellman wrote: > It seems that MIME does not really understand the message/external-body > subtype: viewing the FAQ-pointer in the comp.mail.mime newsgroup, I could > not automatically retrieve the FAQs with ftp. GNUS with metamail support > handles this correctly. > > Furthermore, it would be very nice if RFC 1522, that allows ISOLATIN > characters in message headers, would be implemented. I get a lot of > messages from Eudora users; they look kind of strange with the raw Q > encoding. > > Jan Snellman : "Whenever you find that you are on the side of the > jans@matematik.su.se : majority, it is time to reform." M T > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 11:58:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11655; Wed, 31 Aug 94 11:58:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05772; Wed, 31 Aug 94 11:51:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05764; Wed, 31 Aug 94 11:51:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfuS9-000008C; Wed, 31 Aug 94 11:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: help with PC-Pine / IMAP Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 09:49:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: The imapd on your server doesn't seem to be running for some reason. You should be able to "telnet genesis.tdhca.texas.gov 143" to test it... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Alex Maldonado wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Aug 1994, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Aug 1994, Alex Maldonado wrote: > > > > > Where can I get help on PC-Pine and IMAP ? > > > I can't get PC-Pine to connect to my server ! > > > > You've come to the right newsgroup/mailing list. > > > > Now all you need to do is send a follow-up message with details > > of your problems. As always, be as specific as possible and you > > chances of receiving an answer will be greatly increased. > > > > Ed > > > > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > > > > > Thanks ! > Well here's what I get when I run (the new winsocks) PC-Pine: > > [Can't connect to genesis.tdhca.texas.gov,143: Refused (10061)] > > And I already included IMAPd on our server (and thought I had it > running under "inetd" on port 143 !) > So I don't know what I'm missing. I've got the sockets on my PC and IMAP > on the server... > > Can someone help? > > Thank you ! > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 12:36:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13432; Wed, 31 Aug 94 12:36:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05652; Wed, 31 Aug 94 12:31:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05646; Wed, 31 Aug 94 12:31:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfv2M-000008C; Wed, 31 Aug 94 12:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aris@unisup1.mpd.co.za (Aris Stathakis) Subject: Re: libcrypt.a ? Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 10:24:03 GMT Message-Id: <1994Aug31.102403.1923@unisup1.mpd.co.za> References: <33sr48$1e3@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> In <33sr48$1e3@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> eks@vki68.aar-vki.dk (Eigil Krogh Sorensen) writes: >While compiling Pine 3.90 on a SCO system I've run into the problem >there is no libcrypt.a on the SCO system. >Can libcrypt.a be found anywhere via ftp ? Well since you don't live in the USA, it is illegal (by USA law) to export that library. SCO have an 'Internation Crypt Supplement' that will allow you to compile your program: ftp from ftp.sco.com:/SLS/lng225b.Z I believe that the limitation is that you can encrypt, but not decrypt. Aris -- Aris Stathakis Tel: +27 11 887 1040 Snail Mail: SCO ACE / Novell CNE Fax: +27 11 887 5158 P.O. Box 781228 M&PD (Pty) Ltd. Fax: +27 11 887 5158 Sandton, 2146 E-Mail: aris@mpd.co.za Cell:+27 83 601 0206 R.S.A. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 12:37:23 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13483; Wed, 31 Aug 94 12:37:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06771; Wed, 31 Aug 94 12:31:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06765; Wed, 31 Aug 94 12:31:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfv3F-00000MC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 12:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: krom0012@maroon.tc.umn.edu () Subject: Default Addressbook for Pine? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 17:26:45 GMT Is it possible to set a default addressbook for the system, by putting the addresses in one place and then linking everyone's .addressbook to it? and if so, then can ppl add their own addresses at will but still always have the latest version of the default addressbook? -- Bridget Kromhout (krom0012@maroon.tc.umn.edu) The earth is 98% full. Please delete anyone you can. GB/CS d? p-(---) c++++ l u++ e+(*) m s-/- n+(---) h-(*) f+ g- w+++ t- r x? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 12:50:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13883; Wed, 31 Aug 94 12:50:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05912; Wed, 31 Aug 94 12:43:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05906; Wed, 31 Aug 94 12:43:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfvFJ-00000PC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 12:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Cornelius Subject: Re: pine 3.90 doesn't build under HP-UX with +O3 optimisation Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 18:31:44 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Richard Lloyd wrote: > Just thought folks might like to know that the pine directory in > pine-3.90 contains source code that doesn't build correctly with +O3 > under HP-UX 9.X and HP's ANSI C compiler (Revision A.09.66). I haven't yet > narrowed it down to an individual file, but I suggest HP-UX users reduce > the optimisation to +O2 +Onolimit if they've tried +O3. ... Although what you have written is actually technically correct, readers of your message may get the impression that the Pine distribution does not build OK as distributed. It does build straight out of the box by typing: build hpp If you do this, you will get the following options: cc -DHPP -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"HPP\" -c filename.c > ... an "elm-to-pine" alias converter script, some- > thing the pine folks deliberately omitted ! The Pine folks provide a contributed one at: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/faq/conversion.html -- Barry Cornelius Telephone: (0191 or +44 191) 374 4717 IT Service, Science Site, IT Service Office: (0191 or +44 191) 374 2892 University of Durham, Fax: (0191 or +44 191) 374 3741 Durham, DH1 3LE, UK E-mail: Barry.Cornelius@durham.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 12:56:54 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14181; Wed, 31 Aug 94 12:56:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07216; Wed, 31 Aug 94 12:51:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07210; Wed, 31 Aug 94 12:51:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfvNH-000008C; Wed, 31 Aug 94 12:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dehahn@buell.shr.dec.com (Christofer deHahn) Subject: Pine 3.90 on DEC OSF/1 V3.0 Date: 31 Aug 1994 17:38:27 GMT Message-Id: <342f6j$1dd@mrnews.mro.dec.com> References: -- Since the OSF port is user contributed, I figured it would do the most good to post this to the newsgroup. PINE 3.90 will build on DEC OSF/1 V3.0 right out of the box, but it is slow, very slow, slower than 3.89. I changed the following things in the makefiles for pine, pico, and c-client: 1) get rid of symbolic debugging by removing the -g compiler switch 2) change the optimization from -O to -O2 to increase optimization level 3) change -Olimit 800 to -Olimit 900 so that all routines will be optimized This resulted in a marked speedup. FWIW Chris << Chris deHahn....CdH....Digital Equipment Corporation Shrewsbury MA USA >> << ECAD Engineering dehahn@shr.dec.com 508.841.3451 1991 Buell RS1200 >> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 14:03:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17264; Wed, 31 Aug 94 14:03:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07514; Wed, 31 Aug 94 13:58:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07506; Wed, 31 Aug 94 13:58:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfwPy-000008C; Wed, 31 Aug 94 13:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: teale@acs.ucalgary.ca (Debbie Teale) Subject: Re: Pine version 3.90 is great! Message-Id: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 18:06:11 GMT References: I would also like to say pine 3.90 is great! As a site supporter for elmer (our locally improved elm) I am further tipped to teaching pine for new users on campus. This brings with it problems of those trying or changing over. Without any .pinerc (the first time user but elm user), pine dies because the mail directory already exists. However if a .pinerc is copied in prior to invoking pine a mail directory is not created for those who haven't used anything before and of course then no mail can be sent because mail/sent can't be created. Have I missed something in the installation? I am sure other sites have the problem of mail vs Mail directory. Any comments on how to handle this? -- Debbie Teale, UCS, MS736, 220-4467 E-mail: teale@acs.ucalgary.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 14:20:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17998; Wed, 31 Aug 94 14:20:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09351; Wed, 31 Aug 94 14:13:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09345; Wed, 31 Aug 94 14:13:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfwaj-00000MC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 13:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Xander Jansen Subject: Re: MH-format and flags - not implemented? In-Reply-To: <9408310927.AA02601@nada.kth.se> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <9408310927.AA02601@nada.kth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 17:48:36 GMT Peter et al, On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Peter Svanberg wrote: > Quoting: Xander Jansen > > > > : Q2. Writing MH folders: > > : Can I save messages to my mailhome via IMAPD in MH format? (it > > : probably already works -- after my MH folder reading problem, I just > > : didn't dare try this) > > > > Yes, did it quite a few times now. The only problem sofar was that > > Pine/IMAP seems to have a problem with creating a folder for postponed > > or fcc messages if that folder doesn't exist yet. Creating folders > > from the folder-list works. Deleting folders fails, I think because > > the standard .mh-sequences file isn't removed by the MH-driver so a > > rmdir of the folder gracefully fails. > > Yes, the .mh-sequences file doesn't seem to be handled, > explaining why (permanent) flags handling doesn't work with MH at > all, right Mark? (At least for me it doesn't.) If this is > correct, I think it should be mentioned in the documentation. One other potential problem: if you use xmh also there is a dot-file .xmhcache in each MH-directory/folder and various .CKP files. >From the mh-driver code I read that the delete-folder action only removes , files before actually deleting a folder. I like the carefullness in the driver (don't delete the folder if there's any file not related to messages there but it should at least remove 'well-known' MH-capable-client systemfiles (,, .mh_sequences, .xmhcache, .CKP). > > But from what I've seen now Pine 3.90 makes a good candidate as yet > > another mailreader in our office (with a basic rule: mail is stored on > > a central machine in MH-style folders, how you read them is up to you). > > (Maybe not a very good candidate, given the above?) It depends, if one decides to use pine and pine only to read the mail (and you let your kind sysadm remove all . , and CKP files once) there's no problem. If you decide to use various clients (pine, bare mh, xmh or even exmh) then you'll have to deal with the incompatibilities. I agree that potential problems should be documented (by the same kind sysadm or another volunteer ;-). Given bare mh or xmh pine has some major advantages: it's so easy to attach a gif-file or other MIME-file to the message and you can even read your news without learning yet another interface ! (Note that this is another "great job, pine team !"). Bare mh is definitely more flexible but on the easy-to-use scale mh doesn't do well.... Regards, Xander From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 14:21:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18050; Wed, 31 Aug 94 14:21:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07898; Wed, 31 Aug 94 14:16:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07892; Wed, 31 Aug 94 14:16:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfwiC-00000PC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 13:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Compiling on Ultrix Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 11:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <9408311540.AA14948@ultrix> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9408311540.AA14948@ultrix> What version of Ultrix are you running and is it RISC or VAX? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Steve-Ill build your dreams with these 2 hands wrote: > I am hearing all these wonderful things about Pine 3.90. Now what I don't get > is why I am having problems with compiling. There seems to be the necessary > setup for Ultrix which I am obviously running, but I still get there errors. > The linker error below is the first with the undefined *drivers. I have no clue where to go from here. Then it is looking for ./bin/imapd which I have no clue what to do with. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > ld: > Undefined: > mtxdriver > tenexdriver > make[3]: *** [mtest] Error 1 > make[3]: Leaving directory `/pub/pine3.89/pine3.90/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' > make[2]: *** [ult] Error 2 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/pub/pine3.89/pine3.90/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' > make[1]: *** [build] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/pub/pine3.89/pine3.90/imap' > make: *** [ult] Error 2 > > Making Pico > make: Nothing to be done for `all'. > > size: cannot open bin/imapd > > Thank you much in advance. > > > Steve > > "If you choose not to decide, you'll still have made a choice..." > -RUSH > > George Wood (gwood@indirect.com), PhD says "Hey Beavis, give credit where it's > due: rush stole that line from William James, and the idea goes back at least > to Kierkegaard." > > ================================================================== > / Steve M Insignificant message goes here \ > | CCIS: 529-7500 x7922 \|||/ | > | Home: 722-1632 0 * | > | Beeper: 1-800-502-2775 or 201-909-1575 oo0 ^ 0oo | > | Email: smann@ultrix.ramapo.edu ~~~~~~~~~ | > \ This line left blank for no reason / > ================================================================= > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 14:41:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18887; Wed, 31 Aug 94 14:41:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08356; Wed, 31 Aug 94 14:36:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08350; Wed, 31 Aug 94 14:36:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfx0B-00000MC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 14:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: billy@utdallas.edu (Billy Barron) Subject: Platform Independence with Addressbooks Date: 31 Aug 1994 18:12:48 GMT Message-Id: <342h70$6cc@news.utdallas.edu> Are the index files for the addressbook platform independent? Basically, can I have one addressbook with one index file (.lu) that can handle SunOS 4.X, Solaris, and HP-UX as well as possibly Linux and other things? -- Billy Barron, Network Services Manager, Univ of Texas at Dallas billy@utdallas.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 14:41:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18895; Wed, 31 Aug 94 14:41:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09816; Wed, 31 Aug 94 14:36:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09810; Wed, 31 Aug 94 14:36:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfwzH-000008C; Wed, 31 Aug 94 14:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Default Addressbook for Pine? Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 11:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: In Pine 3.90, you can have multiple addressbooks, so just configure one or more global-address-book entries in your /usr/local/lib/pine.conf file... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 31 Aug 1994 krom0012@maroon.tc.umn.edu wrote: > > > > Is it possible to set a default addressbook for the system, by putting the > addresses in one place and then linking everyone's .addressbook to it? and if > so, then can ppl add their own addresses at will but still always have the > latest version of the default addressbook? > > -- > Bridget Kromhout (krom0012@maroon.tc.umn.edu) > > The earth is 98% full. Please delete anyone you can. > GB/CS d? p-(---) c++++ l u++ e+(*) m s-/- n+(---) h-(*) f+ g- w+++ t- r x? > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 15:52:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21969; Wed, 31 Aug 94 15:52:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10970; Wed, 31 Aug 94 15:28:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from steadfast.teradyne.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10964; Wed, 31 Aug 94 15:28:07 -0700 Received: from gollum.ttd.teradyne.com by steadfast.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/jxh940509) id AA06961; Wed, 31 Aug 94 18:26:30 EDT Received: from bard.ttd.teradyne.com by gollum.ttd.teradyne.com.ttd.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26936; Wed, 31 Aug 94 14:35:46 CDT Received: by bard.ttd.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02185; Wed, 31 Aug 94 14:35:45 CDT Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 14:35:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Kenny Wickstrom To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Problems with pico & HPUX & big xterms Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Like everyone else, I think that Pine 3.90 is wonderful. I use it on SunOS 4.1.3, HPUX 8.0 and soon on Linux. Everything seems to work fine on both the Sun and HP. However, on the HP if I have an xterm with 40 rows and 80 columns and try to Compose a message, pico only opens a window 24x80. The help lines appear on lines 23 and 24. If I cancel, the cancel line it about on line 22 (I think). This is not a problem on the Sun. When viewing message, the window size is recognized without a problem, using the entire with to display the current message. The index, configure, and address book screens also use the entire window. I am using the same source (..tar.gz) for both. The compiler on both is the default when you specify 'build sun' or 'build hpp'. If you have an suggestions, please let me know. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- |/ | | |\enny |/\|ickstrom (wickstro@ttd.teradyne.com) ======== // ___ \\___ ==\\ || \\__ ___ 1405 Lake Cook Rd. // // \\ ||---\ _|| _|| \\ // ||--\\ // \\ Deerfield, IL 60015 // ===== || // || // || \\// || || ===== (708)940-9000 // \\___ || \\_/\_ \\_/\_ // || || \\___ (708)940-0344(FAX) Telecommunications Division // _// From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 15:52:42 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21986; Wed, 31 Aug 94 15:52:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10983; Wed, 31 Aug 94 15:28:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from steadfast.teradyne.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10976; Wed, 31 Aug 94 15:28:19 -0700 Received: from gollum.ttd.teradyne.com by steadfast.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/jxh940509) id AA06985; Wed, 31 Aug 94 18:26:42 EDT Received: from bard.ttd.teradyne.com by gollum.ttd.teradyne.com.ttd.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25502; Tue, 30 Aug 94 10:58:04 CDT Received: by bard.ttd.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01811; Tue, 30 Aug 94 10:58:03 CDT Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 10:58:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Kenny Wickstrom To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Problems with pico & HPUX & big xterms Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Like everyone else, I think that Pine 3.90 is wonderful. I use it on SunOS 4.1.3, HPUX 8.0 and soon on Linux. Everything seems to work fine on both the Sun and HP. However, on the HP if I have an xterm with 40 rows and 80 columns and try to Compose a message, pico only opens a window 24x80. The help lines appear on lines 23 and 24. If I cancel, the cancel line it about on line 22 (I think). This is not a problem on the Sun. When viewing message, the window size is recognized without a problem, using the entire with to display the current message. The index, configure, and address book screens also use the entire window. I am using the same source (..tar.gz) for both. The compiler on both is the default when you specify 'build sun' or 'build hpp'. If you have an suggestions, please let me know. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- |/ | | |\enny |/\|ickstrom (wickstro@ttd.teradyne.com) ======== // ___ \\___ ==\\ || \\__ ___ 1405 Lake Cook Rd. // // \\ ||---\ _|| _|| \\ // ||--\\ // \\ Deerfield, IL 60015 // ===== || // || // || \\// || || ===== (708)940-9000 // \\___ || \\_/\_ \\_/\_ // || || \\___ (708)940-0344(FAX) Telecommunications Division // _// From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 16:06:09 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22638; Wed, 31 Aug 94 16:06:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11478; Wed, 31 Aug 94 15:44:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from vnet.ibm.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11472; Wed, 31 Aug 94 15:44:11 -0700 Received: from RTP by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0779; Wed, 31 Aug 94 18:44:01 EDT Received: by RTP (XAGENTA 3.0) id 3537; Wed, 31 Aug 1994 18:43:31 -0400 Received: by axis.raleigh.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA19250; Wed, 31 Aug 1994 18:44:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 18:44:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Sean Allen" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a way to change the default sort order, and email domain just for news folders? I would like to make the news in Pine appear in a psuedo-threaded fashion (OrderedSubj). I would also like a different email address to show up in the From: field, as my Internet email address differs from my internal (IBM) internet address. When I send email, it gets translated for me, but when I post news, there is no such luck...Suggestions? This would be synonymous with setting HIDDENHOST for xrn or mxrn... Thanks- Sean Allen AIX/Database Administration (919)543-6021 Fax 7996 IBM Personal Computer Company Internal Zip: D318/B205 Research Triangle Park, NC 27709 #include Internet: sallen@vnet.ibm.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 16:12:09 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22896; Wed, 31 Aug 94 16:12:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11969; Wed, 31 Aug 94 16:07:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from oboe.aix.calpoly.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11963; Wed, 31 Aug 94 16:07:05 -0700 Received: by oboe.aix.calpoly.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA49102; Wed, 31 Aug 1994 16:06:26 -0700 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 16:06:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "George L. Westlund" Subject: Mail Folders and sub-directories To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just got the precompiled pine 3.90 and tried it and liked it. Just one drawback that I'm still waiting for, to be able to have folder collections exist as a directory structure (I get a lot of mail and usually keep current quarters mail in ~/mail, but older mail goes in ~/mail/old_mail/year/quarter" where year is the four digit year and quarter is q1-q4. It would be nice if a subdirectory could be crossed as part of a folder collection. I sure that I could add these subdirectories as additiional folder collections, but since they are in the same heirachey, it seem sthat they should just follow through to be intuitive. Another request would be the ability to recognize compressed or gzipped mail folders and extract from them as well. I'd be happy for this is a read only mode. Other than those two, the new version is great and will boost its acceptance on our campus. Just too bad it was posted to the ftp server one working day after our final introduction to UNIX when to the publisher! George L. Westlund || Internet: gwestlu@calpoly.edu Academic Computing Services || BITNET: DI001@CALPOLY.BITNET Cal Poly || NoiseNET: (805)756-6543 San Luis Obispo, CA 93407 || FAX: (805)756-1536 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 17:21:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26156; Wed, 31 Aug 94 17:21:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13603; Wed, 31 Aug 94 17:15:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13597; Wed, 31 Aug 94 17:15:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qfzTG-00000bC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 16:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: paul@moore.com (Paul Maclauchlan) Subject: PC-Pine and B&W Message-Id: <1994Aug31.185134.18686@moore.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 94 18:51:34 GMT Do any of the PC-Pine binaries work properly with the Beame & Whiteside TCP product? Please post or email replies. -- .../Paul Maclauchlan Moore Corporation Limited, Toronto, Ontario (416) 360-4761 paul@moore.com -or- {...!uunet.ca,...!telly}!moore!paul "Someday girl, I don't know when, we're gonna get to that place, Where we really want to go."/BS'75 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 17:49:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26843; Wed, 31 Aug 94 17:49:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14099; Wed, 31 Aug 94 17:44:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14093; Wed, 31 Aug 94 17:44:47 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02338; Wed, 31 Aug 94 17:44:45 -0700 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 17:44:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Billy Barron Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Platform Independence with Addressbooks In-Reply-To: <342h70$6cc@news.utdallas.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes, that's supposed to work. The index file is ASCII for that reason. It's even supposed to work from a PC, if you have some sort of remote file system. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On 31 Aug 1994, Billy Barron wrote: > Are the index files for the addressbook platform independent? Basically, > can I have one addressbook with one index file (.lu) that can handle > SunOS 4.X, Solaris, and HP-UX as well as possibly Linux and other things? > > > -- > Billy Barron, Network Services Manager, Univ of Texas at Dallas > billy@utdallas.edu > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 17:55:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27050; Wed, 31 Aug 94 17:55:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12636; Wed, 31 Aug 94 17:50:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12630; Wed, 31 Aug 94 17:50:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qg03s-000008C; Wed, 31 Aug 94 17:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: setspike@mcl.ucsb.edu (Jason Pascual) Subject: Pine 3.90 and reading news Date: 31 Aug 1994 23:13:11 GMT Message-Id: <3432q7$5u3@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu> Is there a way to automatically enter reading newsgroups from pine? What I'm basically asking is if there is a way to invoke pine with command line options that will open up a newsgroup. Tried: pine -f "*{newsserver.put.here/nntp}[comp.mail.pine]" It looks like pine is going to open up the group however it comes back with a 411 No Such Group error message. Any ideas. Jason Pascual setspike@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 18:14:37 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27602; Wed, 31 Aug 94 18:14:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14353; Wed, 31 Aug 94 18:01:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14347; Wed, 31 Aug 94 18:00:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qg0B6-00000MC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 17:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrew@andrew.triumf.ca (Andrew Daviel) Subject: Pine 3.90 .mailcap Date: 1 Sep 1994 00:30:33 GMT Message-Id: <3437b9$j4l@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> I found that Pine mailcap.c doesn't like blank lines, so that it said my .mailcap from Mosaic was empty. Added a few ##, et voila! I've only tried an .au file so far. The old mechanism of specifying an image viewer still works; I haven't investigated whether I get the xv/xloadimage split defined below. FYI: # This is a simple example mailcap file. # Lines starting with '#' are comments. # # This maps all types of audio data (audio/basic, audio/x-aiff, # etc.) to the viewer 'showaudio'. Note that '%s' means 'put the # datafile name here when the viewer is executed'. audio/snd; play -t .sndt %s audio/SBVOC; play -t .voc %s audio/BASIC; showaudio %s Audio/BASIC; showaudio %s audio/*; play %s # image/gif; xloadimage -fit %s # # This maps all types of images (image/gif, image/jpeg, etc.) # to the viewer 'xv'. image/*; xv %s # # This maps MPEG video data to the viewer 'mpeg_play'. video/mpeg; mpeg_play %s # # This maps all types of video *other than MPEG* to the viewer # 'genericmovie'. video/*; genericmovie %s # drawing/hpgl; hp2xx -w500 -h300 %s #drawing/hpgl; cp %s /tmp # application/postscript; ghostview %s application/x-dvi; xdvi %s --

Andrew Daviel , TRIUMF , Vancouver, Canada


advax@triumf.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 19:50:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29901; Wed, 31 Aug 94 19:50:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14159; Wed, 31 Aug 94 19:42:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14153; Wed, 31 Aug 94 19:42:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qg1oS-000008C; Wed, 31 Aug 94 19:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dave@wwa.com (David Vrona) Subject: Re: Pine on Wyse 50 Date: 31 Aug 1994 20:53:29 -0500 Message-Id: <343c6p$h4m@sashimi.wwa.com> References: <340fn9$dbv@netaxs.com> Jurist (jurist@netaxs.com) wrote: : Is anyone running pine with Wyse 50's as terminals? The arrow keys send : inconvenient control characters. I know you can use N, P, Space, and -, : or ESC arrow key, but that is very annoying, especially in pico. Can the Wyse 50 do VT100 emulation? If so, put a wrapper around pine so that the appropriate control characters are sent to the Wyse 50 to put it into VT100 mode before executing PINE. Then, of course, after PINE is done, send the code to pop the terminal back into Wyse 50 mode. Add the appropriate delay in the script to give the terminal time to switch modes. This works for Wyse 60 terminals. dave -- David Vrona N9QNZ +1 708 367 1870 (voice) Internet: dave@wwa.com Computing Engineers Inc. +1 708 367 1871 (data) +1 708 367 1872 (fax) Home of WorldWide Access (SM), Internet services for the Chicagoland area. Send e-mail to info@wwa.com for information, or call +1 708 367 1871 (data). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 19:50:54 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29924; Wed, 31 Aug 94 19:50:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14210; Wed, 31 Aug 94 19:47:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14204; Wed, 31 Aug 94 19:47:26 -0700 Received: from localhost by Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (NX5.67e/UW-NDC Revision: 2.27.MRC ) id AA03391; Wed, 31 Aug 94 19:47:24 -0700 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 19:40:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Crispin Subject: SGI port bugfix in Pine 3.90 To: pine-info@CAC.Washington.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII There is an error in the timezone generation code in the SGI port which will cause erroneous time zones to be generated in the Date: header for all sites whose local timezone is not GMT. The symptom is that the Date: header looks like: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 19:33:19 +48000 instead of the correct Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 19:33:19 -0800 This problem is most often noticed by To fix this problem, please edit the file pine/imap/ANSI/c-client/os_sgi.c, changing a line which reads: zone = _timezone; /* get timezone from TZ environment stuff */ to be: zone = -_timezone / 60; /* get timezone from TZ environment stuff */ A better fix may be this, but I'm not absolutely sure: zone = ((t->tm_isdst > 0) ? 60 : 0) - _timezone/60; We apologize for this problem. -- Mark -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 20:06:53 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00366; Wed, 31 Aug 94 20:06:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16098; Wed, 31 Aug 94 20:02:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16092; Wed, 31 Aug 94 20:02:53 -0700 Received: from localhost by Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (NX5.67e/UW-NDC Revision: 2.27.MRC ) id AA03415; Wed, 31 Aug 94 20:02:51 -0700 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 19:31:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Crispin Subject: possible .newsrc problems on SUN-OS To: pine-info@CAC.Washington.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Hello. We have received at least three bug reports claiming that entries in .newsrc are being massively deleted by Pine on SUN-OS. As yet, we've been unable to reproduce the problem on our SUN-OS machine; nor has anyone reported this problem on any other platform. The people who have reported it seem fairly insistant that it happens every time. I've spent today staring at the code, and I remain pretty much mystified as to how it could happen. Has anyone else encountered this problem? Has it happened on any system OTHER than SUN-OS? Is the news access local or via NNTP? When you notice the problem, is there a good copy in .oldnewsrc? This problem is at the top of my list, and will remain there until it gets solved. We apologize to anyone who's been bit by it. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 20:12:54 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00498; Wed, 31 Aug 94 20:12:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16187; Wed, 31 Aug 94 20:07:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16181; Wed, 31 Aug 94 20:07:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qg29S-000008C; Wed, 31 Aug 94 19:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: iano@scripps.edu (Ian Russell Ollmann) Subject: ^Q - everywhere! Date: 1 Sep 1994 02:26:08 GMT Message-Id: <343e40$dfj@riscsm.scripps.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently compiled 3.90 for an sgi and found that when accessing the program from a remote terminal (a mac through a modem to our sgi) pine kept complaining the ^Q was not a command. I'm pretty sure that this is not a problem with our modem because no changes were made with its setup and the next day, after running pine in a shell directly on the sgi, I used a library database program over the internet with a filter to save the transcript to a file. I observed ^Q appearing at every prompt in the saved transcript, but not during the session. This seems to me to be a bit odd. Has anyone else had a similar experience? I seem to recall mention that some work was done on the term recognition portion of the program. Ian P.S. While trying to post this from pine, I got an error 441 - cant parse "Date" header. I am submitting this from another newsreader which has its own problems, namely my e-mail address is actually iano@scripps.edu. It may say iano@agouron.com. I have no connection to Agouron Pharmaceuticals whatsoever. My opinions are not necessarily those of The Scripps Research Insitute, where I work. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 20:22:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00756; Wed, 31 Aug 94 20:22:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14613; Wed, 31 Aug 94 20:19:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from perth.DIALix.oz.au by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14600; Wed, 31 Aug 94 20:18:48 -0700 Received: from wni.UUCP (wniuucp@localhost) by perth.dialix.oz.au (8.6.4.1/8.6.4) with UUCP id LAA12149 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 1 Sep 1994 11:18:13 +0800 Received: from oro1000.wni.DIALix.oz.au by wni (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11155; Thu, 1 Sep 94 09:48:23 WST Received: by oro1000.wni.DIALix.oz.au (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA09341; Thu, 1 Sep 1994 09:48:47 --800 Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 09:48:47 --800 From: alexis@oro1000.wni.DIALix.oz.au (Alexis Oosterhoff (aio)) Message-Id: <9409010148.AA09341@oro1000.wni.DIALix.oz.au> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: unsubscribe Content-Length: 175 unsubscribe pine-info alexis@wni.DIALix.oz.au (sorry to send this to the general list, but I have already tried both the Majordomo listserver & pine-info-owner to no avail!) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 20:29:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00907; Wed, 31 Aug 94 20:29:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14742; Wed, 31 Aug 94 20:25:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from faxon.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14736; Wed, 31 Aug 94 20:25:10 -0700 Received: by faxon.ca (5.4R2.01/192.139.186.253) id AA05265; Wed, 31 Aug 1994 23:20:24 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 23:20:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Dion Vansevenant To: David Vrona Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine on Wyse 50 In-Reply-To: <343c6p$h4m@sashimi.wwa.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, David Vrona wrote: > Jurist (jurist@netaxs.com) wrote: > : Is anyone running pine with Wyse 50's as terminals? The arrow keys send > : inconvenient control characters. I know you can use N, P, Space, and -, > : or ESC arrow key, but that is very annoying, especially in pico. > > Can the Wyse 50 do VT100 emulation? If so, put a wrapper around pine so that > the appropriate control characters are sent to the Wyse 50 to put it into > VT100 mode before executing PINE. vt100 is not one of the emulation modes available on the WY-50. I wish it were. Would it be possible to remap the keys somehow, though? Dion *----------------------------------------------* | Dion Vansevenant stu2@faxon.ca | | Systems Administrator | | Faxon/SMS Canada Ltd. (519) 472-1006 voice | | P.O. Box 2382 (519) 472-1072 fax | | London, ON | | Canada N6A 5A7 | *----------------------------------------------* If you don't change your direction - you're bound to end up where you're headed. - Chinese Proverb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 20:33:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01102; Wed, 31 Aug 94 20:33:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16485; Wed, 31 Aug 94 20:29:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16477; Wed, 31 Aug 94 20:29:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qg2Y4-00000QC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 20:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullen@tequesta.gate.net (Allen Mullen) Subject: =20 at end of lines Date: 31 Aug 1994 22:16:20 -0400 Message-Id: I send Email to a mail list. Usually I compose a text file on my PC and save it as text only with line breaks. I upload it and then incorporate it into an Email with the ^R command. I learned that I have to clean the file with the /u1/mirage/bin/dos2unix command to get rid of ^M at the end of lines. I do this now and the Email looks fine as I send it but the people who receive it have =20 at the end of every line except the line that ends a paragraph. This makes a real mess of my Emails. I sometimes break up my Emails with a string of ==== and these get messed up too. How can I fix this problem? Thanks, Allen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 20:33:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01110; Wed, 31 Aug 94 20:33:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14800; Wed, 31 Aug 94 20:29:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14794; Wed, 31 Aug 94 20:29:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qg2WV-000008C; Wed, 31 Aug 94 20:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chenzo@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Vince Cawley) Subject: How to alter header with ! pine 3.07 Date: 31 Aug 1994 20:04:13 -0600 Message-Id: <343cqt$47mf@lamar.ColoState.EDU> I want to add lines to my header. And I have to admit I'm not a genius here. We apparently have pine 3.07 [wha wha wha wha (sound effect suggesting losing on a game show.)] Is there an easier way than suspending composition then editing the temporarily saved file? It seems if we had 3.89 there would be a screen where I could do that. I'm so sad. Vincent Cawley From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 20:46:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01466; Wed, 31 Aug 94 20:46:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15140; Wed, 31 Aug 94 20:43:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15132; Wed, 31 Aug 94 20:42:59 -0700 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA16428 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Wed, 31 Aug 1994 23:42:57 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA24594; Wed, 31 Aug 1994 23:43:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 23:43:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff Subject: Connecting to NNTP Server To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a way to tell pine to connect to an NNTP server that is not on the usual port 119? I can't figure out the proper way to configure in the .pinerc (if there is a way to do so). Thank You Joshua Hosseinoff hosseino@yu1.yu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 21:18:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02240; Wed, 31 Aug 94 21:18:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15601; Wed, 31 Aug 94 21:14:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15595; Wed, 31 Aug 94 21:14:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qg3Fl-00000MC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 20:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: david@telepath.com (David Tingler) Subject: Pine Startup Date: 31 Aug 1994 22:34:39 -0500 Message-Id: <343i4f$n3j@telepath.com> Hello, I have a question about Pine startup. I have noticed that if my PPP connection is down Pine will hang and not start or, if the PPP connection is heavily loaded Pine is very slow to start up. All of my mail and sendmail files are on the local system so it shouldn't need to access the network. Can someone tell me how to fix this? Thanks, David From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 23:13:13 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04216; Wed, 31 Aug 94 23:13:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18707; Wed, 31 Aug 94 22:59:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ultrix.ramapo.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18701; Wed, 31 Aug 94 22:59:56 -0700 Received: by ultrix (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA12844; Thu, 1 Sep 1994 01:59:59 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 01:59:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Mann Subject: Re: Compiling on Ultrix To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > What version of Ultrix are you running and is it RISC or VAX? > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > I am running UItrix 4.4 with a RISC processor. > On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Steve-Ill build your dreams with these 2 hands wrote: > > > I am hearing all these wonderful things about Pine 3.90. Now what I don't get > > is why I am having problems with compiling. There seems to be the necessary > > setup for Ultrix which I am obviously running, but I still get there errors. > > The linker error below is the first with the undefined *drivers. I have no clue where to go from here. Then it is looking for ./bin/imapd which I have no clue what to do with. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > > > ld: > > Undefined: > > mtxdriver > > tenexdriver > > make[3]: *** [mtest] Error 1 > > make[3]: Leaving directory `/pub/pine3.89/pine3.90/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' > > make[2]: *** [ult] Error 2 > > make[2]: Leaving directory `/pub/pine3.89/pine3.90/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' > > make[1]: *** [build] Error 2 > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/pub/pine3.89/pine3.90/imap' > > make: *** [ult] Error 2 > > > > Making Pico > > make: Nothing to be done for `all'. > > > > size: cannot open bin/imapd > > > > Thank you much in advance. > > > > > > Steve > > > > "If you choose not to decide, you'll still have made a choice..." > > -RUSH > > > > George Wood (gwood@indirect.com), PhD says "Hey Beavis, give credit where it's > > due: rush stole that line from William James, and the idea goes back at least > > to Kierkegaard." > > > > ================================================================== > > / Steve M Insignificant message goes here \ > > | CCIS: 529-7500 x7922 \|||/ | > > | Home: 722-1632 0 * | > > | Beeper: 1-800-502-2775 or 201-909-1575 oo0 ^ 0oo | > > | Email: smann@ultrix.ramapo.edu ~~~~~~~~~ | > > \ This line left blank for no reason / > > ================================================================= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve "If you choose not to decide, you'll still have made a choice..." -RUSH George Wood (gwood@indirect.com), PhD says "Hey Beavis, give credit where it's due: rush stole that line from William James, and the idea goes back at least to Kierkegaard." ================================================================== / Steve M Insignificant message goes here \ | CCIS: 529-7500 x7922 \|||/ | | Home: 722-1632 0 * | | Beeper: 1-800-502-2775 or 201-909-1575 oo0 ^ 0oo | | Email: smann@ultrix.ramapo.edu ~~~~~~~~~ | \ This line left blank for no reason / ================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 23:15:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04280; Wed, 31 Aug 94 23:15:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18761; Wed, 31 Aug 94 23:02:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18755; Wed, 31 Aug 94 23:02:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qg4vK-000008C; Wed, 31 Aug 94 22:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: steve@adam.com.au (Stephen White) Subject: Re: Pine and Linux date problem Date: 1 Sep 1994 14:42:25 +0930 Message-Id: <343nrp$s7q@eve.adam.com.au> References: <1994Aug29.135817.3395@lostlink.alt.za> Warwick Ward-Cox (wwar@lostlink.alt.za) wrote: : I seem to have a problem with my date that pine inserts in outgoing mail, : my systems timezone is GMT+0200, but pine puts in my outgoing mail GMT+12000. : My system is Linux kernel 1.1.49 and pine v3.89. It's been fixed in Pine 3.90. -- steve@adam.com.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 31 23:22:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04429; Wed, 31 Aug 94 23:22:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16942; Wed, 31 Aug 94 23:07:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16936; Wed, 31 Aug 94 23:07:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qg50t-00000MC; Wed, 31 Aug 94 22:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: steve@adam.com.au (Stephen White) Subject: Re: HELP!! Pine3.90 compilation problems on Linux Date: 1 Sep 1994 14:41:13 +0930 Message-Id: <343nph$s7m@eve.adam.com.au> References: <33onlm$rha@sybil.anu.edu.au> Kelly Hite (kah305@leonard.anu.edu.au) wrote: : How do I make "build" command work ? I read all the documents, but whenever : I enter "build lnx", it only responds with : can't find specfile lnx Buggered if I know. I'm the one that did the Linux compatibility for the Pine 3.90 release, and all it needs is a "build lnx". It works on mine and it works on other Linux machines. Like someone else suggested, you could try "./build lnx" to make sure you're running the right build program. -- steve@adam.com.au