From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 00:09:57 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01284; Wed, 1 Jun 94 00:09:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28597; Wed, 1 Jun 94 00:03:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28591; Wed, 1 Jun 94 00:03:26 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 31 May 94 23:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lebel@IRO.UMontreal.CA (David Lebel) Subject: Pine on Solaris does a seg. fault... Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 03:08:50 GMT I've compiled Pine 3.89 for SunOS, DEC OSF/1 and Solaris, and I have some problems with the Solaris version. It does compile correctly, but when I run it, with a system-wide pine.conf in /usr/local/lib, Pine does a segmentation fault. When I remove the system-wide pine.conf file, Pine runs just correctly, however, without our domain defaults. If I execute the SunOS version under Solaris compatibility mode, it does indeed work, w/o any crash. For the sake of it, I downloaded the solaris binary from ftp.cac.washington.edu and I get the exact same result. Running the SunOS binary under compatibility mode isn't a solution here, we need a native binary under Solaris. And we can't live without a system-wide pine.conf file. Any hints? -- David Lebel | Sous-gradue', assistant technique et URL http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~lebel | administrateur du Web au DIRO, UdeM "Oh I don't know why people lie, and I don't know why people die. Every time you see me you shout at me, `cause of all the things in the world that I can't see. " - New Order, _Broken Promise_ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 02:31:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04108; Wed, 1 Jun 94 02:31:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00865; Wed, 1 Jun 94 02:23:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from lucy.socs.uts.EDU.AU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00859; Wed, 1 Jun 94 02:23:08 -0700 Received: from charlie.socs.uts.EDU.AU by lucy.socs.uts.EDU.AU with SMTP id AA27272 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 1 Jun 1994 19:22:56 +1000 Received: by charlie.socs.uts.EDU.AU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03912; Wed, 1 Jun 94 19:22:37 EST Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 19:20:21 +1000 (EST) From: Anand Kumria Subject: compression ... To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <9406010918.AA03902@shivams.cac.washington.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi there, would it be possible for you guys to include compression in your program, I like to keep my sent mail -- but obviously I'm not looking at it all the time. So could PINE be extended so that it compress the sent-mail folder at the start of the month (when it gives it a new name). Regards, Anand. PS: What day is the summer soltice -- those of us in oz are in winter. -----------------------+-------------------------------------------------------- /\ | akumria@socs.uts.edu.au *preferred* / \ | akumria@banksia.uts.edu.au / \ | Anand.Kumria@f218.n711.z3.fidonet.org / \ | / Kumria \ | "Chaotic order, ---/----------\--- | ordered chaos" / \ | -- Anand Kumria / \ | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 02:52:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04471; Wed, 1 Jun 94 02:52:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01228; Wed, 1 Jun 94 02:45:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01222; Wed, 1 Jun 94 02:45:00 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 02:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: skippy@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Andrew McColl) Subject: Pine Filter ?? Date: 1 Jun 1994 09:03:17 GMT Message-Id: <2shisl$cb@styx.uwa.edu.au> Hi Im interested in whether or not there's a filter which can be used with pine. I know about the one for ELM and I was wondering if there's something similar with Pine. Skippy -- skippy@lethe.uwa.edu.au University of Western Australia "That which does not kill us Perth, Western Australia Must have missed." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 03:02:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04631; Wed, 1 Jun 94 03:02:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01340; Wed, 1 Jun 94 02:54:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01334; Wed, 1 Jun 94 02:54:40 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 02:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk (B. Landy) Subject: Re: Can pine...? Date: 1 Jun 1994 09:45:40 GMT Message-Id: <2shlc4$j45@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: In article , David L Miller wrote: > >On 1 Jun 1994, Mark Aitchison - Physics and Astronomy Computologist wrote: > >> I use pine on a Unix system, but don't know if I have the latest version (it >> mentions 3.0 at the start), and haven't tried any pc versions. That doesn't >> stop me from asking lots of idiot questions, though... ;-) so here goes: >> >> 1) Is there an OS/2 version of pine (one that interacts with OS/2's own >> sendmail, perhaps, in place of LaMail, and supports drag-and-drop)? >> > >Not yet. We do not have any plans to do an OS/2 port, but there have been >several requests for one... > However, IBM's TCPIP for OS2 includes a winsock package for DOS boxes under OS/2, so the planned Winsock version will (should) also work under OS/2. When is the planned availability of that, by the way? ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0223-334713 +44-223-334713 -- ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 03:22:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05173; Wed, 1 Jun 94 03:22:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01718; Wed, 1 Jun 94 03:14:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01704; Wed, 1 Jun 94 03:14:27 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 03:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gjfec@westminster.ac.uk (gjfec) Subject: Mailing probs Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 09:56:45 GMT I wonder if anybody can help me iam having a lot of difficulty trying to mail news articles to myself and then to print themn out Iam using the 'rn' newsreader Please help me because i really have tried everything thing else open to me Carl gjfec@westminster.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 03:42:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05556; Wed, 1 Jun 94 03:42:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02023; Wed, 1 Jun 94 03:34:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02017; Wed, 1 Jun 94 03:34:10 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 03:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: df@christa.unh.edu (Daniel Ford) Subject: Re: Easy way to read WP file into Pine msg? Date: 1 Jun 1994 10:16:16 GMT Message-Id: <2shn5g$4uo@mozz.unh.edu> References: <2sd80h$q3b@crl.crl.com> <2sgggk$fqd@inca.gate.net> >: Is there an easy way to read word-processing files into pine mail? I go >: through a multi-step process (outlined below). Even doing this, for some >: reason I often lose the last line or so of the file. This is what I do: >: 1. Save the wp51 file as ascii text. >: 2. Upload to server. >: 3. Convert to unix, using "dos2unix (filename) > (new filename)". This >: is necessary to get rid of the ^M's. I've been reading about ASCII uploads/downloads on another newsgroup, and the consensus was that if you transfer the file in ASCII rather than as a binary file (as Kermit and I think Zmodem do) the end-of-line problem is taken care of. Procomm at least provides the opportunity to make an ASCII upload. I find I can't use it while in Pine because it comes out as scrambled eggs. (Though if I send the eggs, they reach the adressee unscrambled.) So I more often upload to the Unix shell, pico the file, then go into Pine and insert it with Ctrl R. -- - Dan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 08:08:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11252; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:08:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06495; Wed, 1 Jun 94 07:59:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from internal.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06489; Wed, 1 Jun 94 07:59:50 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA19742; Wed, 1 Jun 94 22:59:36 +0800 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 22:59:36 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Pine Filter ?? To: Andrew McColl Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2shisl$cb@styx.uwa.edu.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 1 Jun 1994, Andrew McColl wrote: > Hi Im interested in whether or not there's a filter which can be used > with pine. I know about the one for ELM and I was wondering if there's > something similar with Pine. The "filter" program just happens to come with elm. It has no connection whatever with elm. The same goes for the other popular filter program procmail. Edward M. Greshko Control Data Taiwan Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 08:15:58 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11545; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:15:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18085; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:05:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from netop3.harvard.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18079; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:05:12 -0700 Received: by netop3.harvard.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA28124; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:08:16 -0400 Received: from folly.gsd0.harvard.edu by gsd.harvard.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15581; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:08:26 EDT Date: Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:08:26 EDT From: wmahoney@venus.gsd.harvard.edu (William Mahoney) Message-Id: <9406011508.AA15581@ gsd.harvard.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 08:19:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11599; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:19:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06764; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:11:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06743; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:11:01 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 07:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dragon@csulb.edu (Brian Lo) Subject: Pine Documentations Date: 1 Jun 1994 14:51:44 GMT Message-Id: <2si7a0$l6c@garuda.csulb.edu> Can some tell me where I can get pine documention on how to use pine? I looking for something beyond the basics, like signature files or whatever. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 08:56:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13174; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:56:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19131; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:44:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ben.Britain.EU.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19123; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:44:46 -0700 Received: from praxis.co.uk by ben.britain.eu.net via PSS with NIFTP (PP) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 16:44:35 +0100 Received: from cantor.praxis.co.uk by leibniz.praxis.co.uk (5.61/UK-2.1) id AA20302; Wed, 1 Jun 94 16:44:43 +0100 From: Mike Chace Date: Wed, 1 Jun 94 16:45:02 +0100 Message-Id: <22471.9406011545@cantor.praxis.co.uk> Received: by cantor.praxis.co.uk (5.61/UK-2.1) id AA22471; Wed, 1 Jun 94 16:45:02 +0100 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Unsubscribe unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 09:14:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14247; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:14:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07870; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:56:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07864; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:56:04 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ericr@access1.digex.net (Eric Rosenberg) Subject: Pine for AUX? Date: 1 Jun 1994 11:02:45 -0400 Message-Id: I'm trying to convince my system operator to use Pine, but he says it isn't available for AUX (Apple's flavor of Unix). Is this true? If it is available, where can we get it ... Thanks -- Eric ericr@vita.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 09:23:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14750; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:23:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08377; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:06:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from frostbite-falls.uoregon.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08366; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:06:42 -0700 Received: (meyer@localhost) by frostbite-falls.uoregon.edu (8.6.9/8.6.5.Beta7) id JAA04079; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 09:06:41 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 09:06:41 -0700 From: "David M. Meyer 503/346-1747" Message-Id: <199406011606.JAA04079@frostbite-falls.uoregon.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Please unsubscribe (Sorry to send to the list) Please unsubscribe me. Sorry I'm sending this to the list, but I've had no luck otherwise. Thanks, Dave David M. Meyer Voice: +1-503-346-1747 Senior Network Engineer Pager: +1-503-342-9458 Office of University Computing Cellular: +1-503-954-1103 Computing Center FAX: +1-503-346-4397 University of Oregon Internet: meyer@ns.uoregon.edu 1225 Kincaid Eugene, OR 97403 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 09:46:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15462; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:46:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09000; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:36:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08994; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:36:22 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine Filter ?? Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 09:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2shisl$cb@styx.uwa.edu.au> The Elm filter program works equally well with Pine... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 1 Jun 1994, Andrew McColl wrote: > Hi Im interested in whether or not there's a filter which can be used > with pine. I know about the one for ELM and I was wondering if there's > something similar with Pine. > > Skippy > -- > skippy@lethe.uwa.edu.au > University of Western Australia "That which does not kill us > Perth, Western Australia Must have missed." > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 09:49:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15531; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:49:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09008; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:36:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09002; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:36:27 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine for AUX? Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 09:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: He is correct. There is a partial port for A/UX in the distribution, but no one has completed it... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 1 Jun 1994, Eric Rosenberg wrote: > I'm trying to convince my system operator to use Pine, but he says it > isn't available for AUX (Apple's flavor of Unix). > > Is this true? If it is available, where can we get it ... > > Thanks -- > Eric > > ericr@vita.org > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 10:02:53 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16031; Wed, 1 Jun 94 10:02:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21033; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:48:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21027; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:48:49 -0700 Received: from harvard.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.6.8/7.1be+) with UUCP id JAA28103 for cac.washington.edu!pine-info; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 09:33:16 -0700 Return-Path: Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for cac.washington.edu!pine-info) id AA07944; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:07:32 EDT Received: from news.cs.utexas.edu by im4u.cs.utexas.edu (5.64/1.44/uucp) with SMTP id AA26144; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:07:19 -0500 Received: from relay2.UU.NET (relay2.UU.NET [192.48.96.7]) by news.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA11015 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:06:58 -0500 Received: from seraph.uunet.ca (via uunet.ca) by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwsku17694; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:07:10 -0400 Received: from moore by mail.uunet.ca with UUCP id <98503-3>; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:06:47 -0400 Received: by moore.com (4.1/smail2.5/01-12-90) id AA06853; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:59:00 EDT Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 08:58:58 -0400 From: Paul Maclauchlan Subject: Re: Yet another plea for pine-info in DIGEST format To: Simon McClenahan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 31 May 1994, Simon McClenahan wrote: > In the time space of approx. 10 hours, I have received exactly 39 > email messages from this list (most of them asking "how do I do this? > Where's the FAQ?"). I (and Australia?) haven't got comp.mail.pine yet, so > I don't know if this message is being sent to the newsgroup. Please > ignore if you are reading this through news. I must agree with Simon. The volume on the mail list is approaching the intolerable level. I subscribe to pine-info to hear from the Pine Development team *information* about Pine, development, administration and support. I believe the decision to interface the newsgroup and the mailing list was not correct. Mail isn't news and mailing lists and newsgroups are different beasts. Can the powers that be please consider: 1. Killing the auto-interface between the list and newsgroup or 2. Implementing a pine-announce or pine-admin mailing list where discussion of signature file dashes, usage questions and general chit chat are discouraged? I don't mind reading the mailing list and keeping up with comp.mail.pine, but I dislike having a newsgroup in my mailbox. I would like to see this happen *before* the inevitable cross-posted flame war engulfs my mail spool! -- .../Paul Maclauchlan Moore Corporation Limited, Toronto, Ontario (416) 360-4761 paul@moore.com -or- {...!uunet.ca,...!telly}!moore!paul "I can gather all the news I need from the weather report."/PS'72 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 10:28:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16840; Wed, 1 Jun 94 10:28:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21705; Wed, 1 Jun 94 10:16:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from suma2.rdg.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21698; Wed, 1 Jun 94 10:16:43 -0700 Received: from reading.ac.uk by mail2.reading.ac.uk with SMTP - Local (PP) id <26772-0@mail2.reading.ac.uk>; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 18:16:27 +0100 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 18:16:24 BST From: John Stumbles Subject: Re: Easy way to read WP file into Pine msg? To: Bob Curtis Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On 31 May 1994 19:16:36 -0400 Bob Curtis wrote: > I'd like to do the same thing, but the command "dos2unix" is not > available on my system. FTPing the file up to your Unix system in ASCII mode (the default for FTP) should convert DOS CR-LF end-of-line sequences to Unix LFs. DOS2UNIX is part of PC-NFS and is used if you NFS-mount your Unix home directory as a DOS drive (then you save the WP file in ascii mode on your NFS drive, DOS2UNIX it and ^Read it into Pine). Of course if you want to send your WP file as a WP-formatted document rather than as plain ASCII text you don't need any of this - just get it to your Unix host (in Binary format if using FTP) and Attach it to your message. And if you use PC-PINE you don't have all the messing around with FTP or NFS-mounted filesystems - ^R reads in from your DOS filesystem, and understands DOS file format. The downside is that, for me at least, PC-PINE doesn't work too well with Windows: it needs loads of free conventional memory, and requires a network stack like a house of cards and seems to slow down other processes' network access by an order of magnitude. Roll on the promised Winsock version. And keep up the good work David, Terry & Co! John Stumbles j.d.stumbles@reading.ac.uk University of Reading 0734 318435 Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF, UK +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 11:26:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19078; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:26:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11520; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:18:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11514; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:18:20 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu (Randy Zagar) Subject: Re: Warning: File Attachments in Pine are encrypted Date: 1 Jun 1994 17:55:48 GMT Message-Id: <2sii34$o3r@news.udel.edu> References: <2s9ggo$6mc@news1.digex.net> <2sbc2o$jl4@news1.digex.net> Terry Gray wrote in as follows: > > In considering how to handle text attachments, we had a very clear > > choice between: backwards compatibility for recipients who did not yet > > have MIME compliant software, and the integrity of the attachments. > > (Without some encoding, attachments would certainly be corrupted by > > certain mail gateways and/or mail delivery agents. Even text > > attachments.) > > > > In the end, the decision was made to favor integrity over backward > > compatibility. If an MTA will mangle a message with a 7-bit ASCII-TEXT attachment then, exactly, how does BASE64 encoding prevent that from happening? All I have to say is this: If 90% of the people I send mail to do not have MIME-compatible readers, then you've just encouraged (if not forced) me to NOT use Pine 90% of the time. That doesn't sound like a very good way to expand your user base... I generally resent programs (and programmers) that feel it's necessary to IMPOSE their views of 'correctness' on me and my work. All it takes is two vendors who decide to do something like that and suddenly I have two programs that won't work together. > > o It is common and uncontroversial for files to be uuencoded for > > Internet mail transmission, and then to be uudecoded outside of > > the recipient's mailer. The equivalent functionality is widely > > available for MIME encoding as well. (An example is John Myer's > > mpack/munpack program.) Yes, this is true. But my mailer doesn't ASSUME that uuencoding is necessary for ALL ATTACHMENTS!!! For instance, I have a friend that works for Bell Atlantic, and if my mailer automatically uuencoded attachments then I'd have to stop using the mailer. All instances of uuencode/decode are removed from their systems as they don't want people exchanging (possibly) virus-infected programs through e-mail. > > The real goal should be to get everyone into the MIME game as quickly > > as possible, so rather than trying to get Pine to move backwards and > > risk undermining the effort because of corrupted attachments, how 'bout > > leaning on the sites that don't yet provide a way for their clients to > > handle MIME? There you go again, trying to impose YOUR view of 'correctness' on the world. With the analogy of uuencoded attachments, do you really believe that a company like Bell Atlantic is going to take the time (and $$$) to change their corporate policy just so they can conform to YOUR idea of 'correct'-ness ?!? *I* think they'd just choose not to use your mailer... If you guys would follow this one guideline, it'll make both your (and our) lives much easier: Deal with things as they ARE, not how you think they OUGHT to be. Most major computer companies pursue backwards compatability until it's clear that they're just whipping a dead horse. The only time incompatability is tolerated is when you're introducing an entirely different product (like the introduction of the Mac) and nobody's going to be using the 'old' stuff on the new systems... -Randy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 11:33:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19385; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:33:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11688; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:24:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11682; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:24:09 -0700 Received: by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18909; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:19:54 -0700 Received: by ListDist v0.2 for /usr/local/lib/pine-announce.cf Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18903; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:19:51 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11556; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:19:49 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00897; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:19:48 -0700 Reply-To: Terry Gray Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:19:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Pine Announcement Distribution Subject: Pine 3.90 Status X-Owner: pine-announce-request@cac.washington.edu X-To: pine-announce@cac.washington.edu For all of you bursting with curiousity, here's the latest on 3.90... I've been saying "late spring" (i.e. June 20th :) for the *beta* release of 3.90, and I think we'll be close to that goal, but won't quite make it. So think in terms of late June, but don't be too surprised if is slips into July. (Prudent planners should realize that we --unlike other s/w development groups-- have never been very accurate in our s/w schedule predictions and should adjust expectations accordingly.) Rest assured that there is plenty of smoke around here as the guys' fingers burn up the keyboards, but there are still a number of things we feel it is important to include that aren't done yet... There are several hundred changes since 3.89. Here's a preview of the major stuff: o Finished all the "Not implemented yet" commands: -Bounce (remail) -Flag (set message status) -Pipe (Unix only) -Select/Apply -Zoom -Setup/Options (pinerc config screen) o News posting o News subscription/unsubscription o Multiple address books o Postpone multiple messages o Customizable headers for Composer o Mailcap support o Improved support for multiple incoming message folders o always-use-alt-editor feature (except for editing headers) o All .pinerc features now settable from command line o Way to control which options are user-configurable (Unix only) o Way to have Save *not* implicitly delete o Way to use current-working-directory for Export, ^R, etc. o And with any luck, a Winsock version of PC-Pine Select/Apply gives you "aggregate" operations, e.g. Select all messages from joe, then you can Apply message commands to the entire selection... Zoom lets you focus on just the selected messages. And now for the bad news. Here are some things we want as much as you do, but are not likely to make it into 3.90... o Additional MIME support, e.g. file typing map, resolving external refs o PEM/PGP (or equiv) support o External directory services access* o Kerberos support o RFC 1522 header encoding for 8bit charsets o Location independence of support files (e.g. .pinerc, .addressbook) o Offline support o Hierarchy support (awaits IMAP4) o Answered flag not set if Reply is postponed (awaits IMAP4) o Faster detection of folders with Recent messages (awaits IMAP4) o Faster fetching of headers (awaits IMAP4) o Determination of which flags are permanent (awaits IMAP4) * unless it is administratively disabled, you will be able to type the PIPE command and enter ";finger foo@bar" but we hope to do better than that in the future :) -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 11:34:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19444; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:34:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23478; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:24:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uu3.psi.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23472; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:24:26 -0700 Received: from naz.edu by uu3.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA07906 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 14:12:03 -0400 Received: from hydra.naz.edu.naz.edu by naz.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-DNI) id AA26843; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:50:52 EDT Received: by hydra.naz.edu.naz.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA06133; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 13:57:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 13:50:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael A. Naud" Subject: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: Paul Maclauchlan Cc: Simon McClenahan , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 1 Jun 1994, Paul Maclauchlan wrote: > > On Tue, 31 May 1994, Simon McClenahan wrote: > > > In the time space of approx. 10 hours, I have received exactly 39 > > email messages from this list (most of them asking "how do I do this? > > Where's the FAQ?"). I (and Australia?) haven't got comp.mail.pine yet, so > > I don't know if this message is being sent to the newsgroup. Please > > ignore if you are reading this through news. > > I must agree with Simon. The volume on the mail list is approaching the > intolerable level. > > I subscribe to pine-info to hear from the Pine Development team *information* > about Pine, development, administration and support. I believe the decision > to interface the newsgroup and the mailing list was not correct. Mail isn't > news and mailing lists and newsgroups are different beasts. > > -- > .../Paul Maclauchlan I agree 100%. On Tuesday, I had well over 250 messages, with most from this list/news group. It seems that since the USENET group has been added, a lot of the questions can be answered by actually READING the documentation that comes with Pine, especially the help screens. The mailing list was better in the past. I don't want to sound elitest, but I want the old mailing list back. The newsgroup should remain separate. Michael A. Naud Dept. of Academic Computing ---- Michael A. Naud (716) 586-2525 VOICE Nazareth College of Rochester (716) 586-2452 FACSIMILE 4245 East Avenue manaud@naz.edu E-MAIL Rochester, NY 14618-3980 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 12:27:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21002; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:27:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24909; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:19:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from Krypton.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24903; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:19:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (hayden@localhost) by krypton.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id OAA00850; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 14:25:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 14:25:24 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: Pine Info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I agree. The list shoudl be the list. The newsgroup shoudl be the newsgroup. Seperate them. ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or Blue Earth County -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 12:57:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21843; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:57:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13948; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:49:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13940; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:49:36 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian_MacPhedran@engr.usask.ca (Ian MacPhedran) Subject: Re: ROT 13 Date: 1 Jun 1994 18:54:07 GMT Message-Id: <2silgf$cvq@tribune.usask.ca> References: <2sfbqi$p2r@post.its.mcw.edu> Dean Lois (dmlois@outreach.its.mcw.edu) wrote: : Does anyone know if there is a way to unrotate newsgroup articles that : are mailed to you? I've got several saved in a folder and can't figure : out how to unrotate them. : Thanks, : Dean M. Lois : dmlois@outreach.its.mcw.edu If you are on a UNIX system, you can do this: tr '[A-Za-z]' '[N-ZA-Mn-za-m]' < folder_file | more where "folder_file" is the name of the folder with your ROT13'ed messages. Ian. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ian MacPhedran, Engineering Computer Centre, University of Saskatchewan. 2B13 Engineering Building, U. of S. Campus, Saskatoon, Sask., CANADA S7N 0W0 Phone: (306)966-4832 Fax: (306)966-8710 Email: Ian_MacPhedran@engr.USask.CA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 12:57:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21857; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:57:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25588; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:46:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25582; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:46:40 -0700 Received: by ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15133; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:46:16 EDT Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 15:44:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Schlitt Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: "Robert A. Hayden" Cc: Pine Info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII That is exactly why I voted against the newsgroup. Gatewaying the newsgroup back into the mailinglist is a "bad thing". But that is what folks voted for :-( I would not be unhappy if the folk running the mailinglist blocked posting from the newsgroup. /dan -- Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 13:12:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23191; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:12:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14627; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:06:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14621; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:06:37 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pbarber@eskimo.com (Putnam Barber) Subject: replying (arrangement of text) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 14:34:56 GMT Thinking that repeating the old is lower priority than expressing the new, I have been arranging replies to e-mail by starting with new stuff, then including (edited) incoming, and concluding with included text from files or attachments (if any). In general, I try to avoid the point-by-point interpolated format unless specifically engaged in commenting on a text. Correspondents on my local group have politely objected, saying they prefer to be reminded of the context first, then see the reply. (One writer also pointed out that old-first new-second encourages people to 'prune' the old, which he regards as both intellectually and technically proper.) I would be +much+ happier with this arrangement if there were a way to search for the first line that +does not+ contain a > in column 1. Even better, IMHO, would be a standardized flag in line one (or the header) of a reply that announced the presence of "old" text and allowed those who prefer old-first new-second to jump to the old, then back to line 1 (as 3.90 will reportedly allow) to read the new. I agree that not knowing whether there is, in fact, any old text appended is uncomfortable. But I also find paging through old (and familiar) material tiresome, even when it's been pruned. What to do what to do? Life is soo full of choices! Putnam Barber Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 13:17:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23442; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:17:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26375; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:09:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from medusa.unm.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26369; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:09:18 -0700 Received: from MEDUSA.UNM.EDU by MEDUSA.UNM.EDU (PMDF V4.2-14 #5028) id <01HD14949ZGG000V8E@MEDUSA.UNM.EDU>; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 14:17:58 MDT Date: Wed, 01 Jun 1994 14:15:21 -0600 (MDT) From: "Stephen F. Day, UNM MCCS" Subject: RE: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. In-Reply-To: Your message dated "Wed, 01 Jun 1994 14:25:24 -0500 (CDT)" To: Pine Info Cc: "Stephen F. Day, UNM MCCS" Message-Id: <01HD14D6KZQC000V8E@MEDUSA.UNM.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > I agree. The list shoudl be the list. The newsgroup shoudl be the > newsgroup. Seperate them. > > ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu Amen! The recent traffic is unbearable!! If something cannot be done soon, it's likely that many of us will ask to be unsubscribed from the list, leaving the newsgroup groupies to babble on amongst themselves.... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stephen F. Day (SFD7) AT&TNET: (505) 277-1698 Director BITNET/CREN: SDAY@MEDUSA Medical Ctr Computer Services INTERNET: sday@medusa.UNM.EDU University of New Mexico TECHNET: UNMSDAY =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 13:36:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23915; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:36:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15198; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:30:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from indiv-gw.cent.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15181; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:30:00 -0700 Received: by individual.com (5.65c/Spike-2.1) id AA21915; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 16:30:17 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 16:22:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: Re: Warning: File Attachments in Pine are encrypted To: Randy Zagar Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2sii34$o3r@news.udel.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 1 Jun 1994, Randy Zagar wrote: > All I have to say is this: If 90% of the people I send mail to do not have > MIME-compatible readers, then you've just encouraged (if not forced) me to > NOT use Pine 90% of the time. That doesn't sound like a very good way to > expand your user base... I certainly do *not* speak for the Pine group, but I personally think that even if I don't think they are necessarily going in the right direction, they have certainly provided more than adequate arguments to support the way they feel, and I respect that. And I don't think that I recall seeing "expanding our user base" anywhere in the Pine manifesto. > If you guys would follow this one guideline, it'll make > both your (and our) lives much easier: > > Deal with things as they ARE, not how you think they OUGHT to be. > > Most major computer companies pursue backwards compatability until it's > clear that they're just whipping a dead horse. OK, let's take your suggestion to deal with things as they are. Neither the Pine team nor the University of Washington is a major computer company. Ultimately, their only responsibility is to the users at that site. Through their unbounded generosity, they have made their work (and support) available to the rest of us at no cost. Even if I'm not 100% happy with Pine (I would say I'm 98% happy with it), I'd have to say that that's a pretty good deal. - Adam J Weitzman INDIVIDUAL, Inc. weitzman@individual.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 13:38:54 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23987; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:38:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26930; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:31:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from utdallas.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26924; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:31:16 -0700 Received: from frog.utdallas.edu by utdallas.edu (ZMailer 2.1.3 #231) with BLIMP id <14245>; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 15:31:12 -0500 Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. From: Billy Barron To: manaud@hydra.naz.edu (Michael A. Naud) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 15:31:08 -0500 Cc: harvard!moore.com!paul@beaver.cs.washington.edu, Simon.McClenahan@mel.dit.csiro.au, pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Michael A. Naud" at Jun 1, 94 12:50:46 pm X-Www-Page: http://www.utdallas.edu/acc/billy.html X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 892 Message-Id: <94Jun1.153112cdt.14245@utdallas.edu> In reply to Michael A. Naud's message: > >I agree 100%. On Tuesday, I had well over 250 messages, with most from >this list/news group. It seems that since the USENET group has been >added, a lot of the questions can be answered by actually READING the >documentation that comes with Pine, especially the help screens. The >mailing list was better in the past. I don't want to sound elitest, but I >want the old mailing list back. The newsgroup should remain separate. > No, I disagree 100%. To be honest, I hated the old mailing list. I'm pretty anti-mailing list except when it is a small group of people that keep signal and almost no noise (I found the old pine list to be mostly noise to me). I don't want to have to keep my subscription to the mailing list now that we have a newsgroup. -- Billy Barron, Network Services Manager, Univ of Texas at Dallas billy@utdallas.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 14:17:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25182; Wed, 1 Jun 94 14:17:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16082; Wed, 1 Jun 94 14:05:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16076; Wed, 1 Jun 94 14:05:19 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gelato@astrosun.tn.cornell.edu (Sergio Gelato) Subject: Re: bug in PINE Date: 1 Jun 1994 20:30:27 GMT Message-Id: <2sir53INNmhi@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> References: <2s5r87$qed@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> In article <2s5r87$qed@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> tipcat@wam.umd.edu (Frank Young) writes: [Complains about =20 at the end of long lines in messages he sends out with Pine. His signature ends with:] > "Videmus nunc per speculum in ‘nigmate.... Nunc cognosco ex parte" ^ Note the non-ASCII character here (octal 221). This is enough to trigger quoted-printable encoding if included in a Pine message. Quoted-printable encoding will turn any space at the end of a line into an =20. Pine's editor will leave a space when automatic wraparound occurs. (I have been annoyed by this "feature" before, by the way. Yes, it is nice when you want to join the two lines again, but that rarely happens, and in any case an explicit "join" command could take care of it. Most of the time, those spaces really ought to be removed, either when the line is split or when the editor is exited. The latter might be tricky to implement as it would require the editor to tag these spaces so that it can remove them but leave any blanks the user explicitly wanted.) -- Sergio Gelato gelato@cornell.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 14:32:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25817; Wed, 1 Jun 94 14:32:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16586; Wed, 1 Jun 94 14:25:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16579; Wed, 1 Jun 94 14:25:11 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 14:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: g-omran@otter.cs.yorku.ca (Ragab A. Omran) Subject: Re: need ref. Message-Id: <2349@yetti.UUCP> Date: 1 Jun 94 20:16:00 GMT References: <1994May26.174804.12824@alw.nih.gov> In article <1994May26.174804.12824@alw.nih.gov>, blewis@alw.nih.gov (barbara lewis) writes: |> Are there any good resources for use of "pine" available at an ftp site, |> man pages are okay but.... |> |> :-) |> Barb |> Hi Barb, try the following ftp sites: bongo.cc.utexas.edu /source/mail emx.cc.utexas.edu /pub/mnt/source/mail mcsun.eu.net /mail pith.uoregon.edu /pub/Sun4/bin hope that helps |> -- |> A breeze in the pines and the sun and bright moonlight, |> Lazing in the sunshine yes indeed... |> |> Sugar Magnola [Weir/Hunter] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Ragab Omran Department of Computer Science e-mail: g-omran@cs.yorku.ca York University 4700 Keele Street North York (Toronto), Ontario Canada, M3J 1P3 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 14:55:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26446; Wed, 1 Jun 94 14:55:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17091; Wed, 1 Jun 94 14:46:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from optima.CS.Arizona.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17085; Wed, 1 Jun 94 14:46:45 -0700 Received: from wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU by optima.cs.arizona.edu (5.65c/15) via SMTP id AA17322; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 14:46:42 MST Received: (from jdavis@localhost) by wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU (8.6.7/8.6.6) id OAA20942; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 14:46:40 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 14:46:38 -0700 (MST) From: Jim Davis Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: "Michael A. Naud" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 1 Jun 1994, Michael A. Naud wrote: > I agree 100%. On Tuesday, I had well over 250 messages, with most from > this list/news group. It seems that since the USENET group has been > added, a lot of the questions can be answered by actually READING the > documentation that comes with Pine, especially the help screens. The > mailing list was better in the past. I don't want to sound elitest, but I > want the old mailing list back. The newsgroup should remain separate. The comp.mail.pine CFV, and now charter, specified that there would be a bidirectional gateway between the pine-info mailing list and comp.mail.pine. That information was posted to the pine-info list, so it shouldn't surprise anyone. And the comp.mail.pine proposal, including the bidirectional gateway, passed by a healthy margin. I don't remember you arguing against the proposal in news.groups, or on pine-info. Did you vote against it? Or vote at all? As to the signal-to-noise ratio, pine is a MUA novices can use. It's hardly surprising that novices will ask questions about it, even sometimes (unfortunately) questions answered in the online help. You can always unsubscribe to the mailing list if this is such a burden. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 15:31:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27544; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:31:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29559; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:24:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from indiv-gw.cent.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29553; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:24:25 -0700 Received: by individual.com (5.65c/Spike-2.1) id AA13476; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 18:24:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 18:13:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam J Weitzman Reply-To: Adam J Weitzman Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: Jim Davis Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Wed, 1 Jun 1994, Jim Davis wrote: > The comp.mail.pine CFV, and now charter, specified that there would be a > bidirectional gateway between the pine-info mailing list and > comp.mail.pine. That information was posted to the pine-info list, so it > shouldn't surprise anyone. And the comp.mail.pine proposal, including the > bidirectional gateway, passed by a healthy margin. I don't remember you > arguing against the proposal in news.groups, or on pine-info. Did you > vote against it? Or vote at all? I will admit I did not vote at all. I performed this non-action mainly because (a) I ignorantly assumed that it would not make that much difference in s/n ratio, and (b) I would not be reading it and would still be on the mailing list, mainly because the newsfeed to my site is, shall we say, less than adequate. (To give you an idea, neither site I read news from even has this newsgroup yet.) I did not consider the consequences of what would happen to the traffic once this happened. As a result of this bidirectional gateway, my email box has been flooded with quesitons about signatures, ftp-ing, news software, filters, forwarding, and many other things that have little or no importance to Pine and do not belong in a Pine newsgroup. And I can see now that we are going to continue to get these questions over and over again. > As to the signal-to-noise ratio, pine is a MUA novices can use. It's > hardly surprising that novices will ask questions about it, even sometimes > (unfortunately) questions answered in the online help. You can always > unsubscribe to the mailing list if this is such a burden. No, I cannot. I need to be privy to discussions about things that might or might not be added to the next version of Pine, ports, contributed software, announcements, etc. As a duty to the users at my site I *must* be on this mailing list. The current noise level is absolutely unbearable. I suggest that either there be a very *long*, frequently-posted FAQL to answer most novice questions and tell them what is and is not considered a legitimate Pine question, or moderate the newsgroup. - Adam J Weitzman INDIVIDUAL, Inc. weitzman@individual.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 15:36:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27765; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:36:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29651; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:27:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from madmacs.macarthur.uws.EDU.AU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29643; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:27:45 -0700 Received: by madmacs.macarthur.uws.edu.au (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA13419; Thu, 2 Jun 1994 08:27:44 +1100 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 08:27:07 +22311043 (E ) From: Brian Kalabric Subject: unsubscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 15:51:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28317; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:51:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18532; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:44:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18526; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:44:14 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: x94juhta@ida.liu.se (Juha Takkinen) Subject: Re: ROT 13 Message-Id: <1994Jun1.175931.27681@ida.liu.se> References: <2sfbqi$p2r@post.its.mcw.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 17:59:31 GMT dmlois@outreach.its.mcw.edu (Dean Lois) writes: >Does anyone know if there is a way to unrotate newsgroup articles that >are mailed to you? I've got several saved in a folder and can't figure >out how to unrotate them. >Thanks, >Dean M. Lois >dmlois@outreach.its.mcw.edu With "unrotate" I presume you mean "decode". On Unix(tm) i suggest you do like this: - save the message you want to decode in a file (infile.txt in example below) - write the following line in an ordinary text file and save it as "decode" (or some other name at your liking): tr "[a-m][n-z][A-M][N-Z]" "[n-z][a-m][N-Z][A-M]" < infile.txt > outfile.txt - make sure that you don't have an old file named "outfile.txt" (remove it, if you have) - give the command source decode at the Unix(tm) prompt. - read the result (decoded text) in outfile.txt. "tr"-hint borrowed from "The Whole Internet" by Ed Krol, O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. 1992, pp. 145-146 (recommended as good reading). There's probably an easier way (you can, for example, try to get your news reader to read your mail/text file instead of the ordinary news file), but it works. ;^D By the way, the ROT13 code is merely the alphabet rotated 13 letters. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- postcards to Mr. Juha Takkinen email c90juhta@und.ida.liu.se Rydsvagen 140 C voice +46 13 17 90 22 S-582 48 LINKOPING SWEDEN -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 16:06:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28749; Wed, 1 Jun 94 16:06:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00560; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:59:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post1.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00554; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:59:14 -0700 Received: from enuxsa.eas.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HD1803VR408ZHV5U@asu.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 16:01:56 MST Date: Wed, 01 Jun 1994 15:58:17 -0700 (MST) From: Kevin Pinto Subject: Why can't I unsubscribe? In-Reply-To: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Has anyone had problems unsubscribing from this mailing list? I've done it twice already, via the majordomo mechanism, and I still keep getting mail.... Kevin ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Pinto, Chem Engg, ASU, Tempe, AZ My mailer understands MIME "Beware of reading health books; you may die of a misprint" - Mark Twain "An armed society is a polite society" - Beyond This Horizon, Robert Heinlein From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 16:41:49 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29665; Wed, 1 Jun 94 16:41:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01465; Wed, 1 Jun 94 16:35:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from Krypton.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01459; Wed, 1 Jun 94 16:35:26 -0700 Received: from localhost (hayden@localhost) by krypton.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id SAA12095; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 18:41:17 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 18:41:16 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: Pine Info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 1 Jun 1994, Jim Davis wrote: > The comp.mail.pine CFV, and now charter, specified that there would be a > bidirectional gateway between the pine-info mailing list and > comp.mail.pine. That information was posted to the pine-info list, so it > shouldn't surprise anyone. And the comp.mail.pine proposal, including the > bidirectional gateway, passed by a healthy margin. I don't remember you > arguing against the proposal in news.groups, or on pine-info. Did you > vote against it? Or vote at all? I did bring up on news.groups that sending the group to the list would be a problem, but it appeared to get buried under the Greencard Lawyer thread or some other such nonsense. I also did vote yes because a pine group WAS needed to compliment comp.mail.elm, but I also posted my strong reservations about bi-directional porting of news postings. I am seriously concerned that as the newgroup message propogates (it hasn't even gotten here yet), this list will become absolutely unbareable. Some possible solutions: A) remove porting B) Make porting one way, from list to group, but NOT from group to list C) Leave as is, but create a non-ported mailing list called pine-guru, pine-admin, pine-tech, or some such for people that deal with suggestions for the future, system-based installation concerns, and the like to talk on, and not deal with a huge number of FAQs that will get asked every 48 hours or so (and note that making an FAQ document won't help at all). D) Digestify pine-info. Perhaps as a seperate mailing list called pine-info-digest or something. Same information, but in chunks instead of individually. I actually prefer individually, but others are different. E) Everyone switches to elm (well, ok, that's not a good idea :-) My vote, personally, is to create the seperate list for technical and development discussions (basically what the old list was) and to set up a digested distribution as well. If the Lords of Pine aren't sure how to do the digesting, I'd suggest contacting the folx at queernet.org, as they have accomplished this using majordomo (perhaps majordomo can already inherently do it, I'm not sure). > As to the signal-to-noise ratio, pine is a MUA novices can use. It's > hardly surprising that novices will ask questions about it, even sometimes > (unfortunately) questions answered in the online help. You can always > unsubscribe to the mailing list if this is such a burden. saying "go away if you don't like it" is a poor attitude, IMHO. If there is a problem that was unforseen or not considered very well, one is supposed to FIX it, not say "cope". A bug is only a feature at Microsoft. This is the real world :-) ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or Blue Earth County -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 16:55:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29920; Wed, 1 Jun 94 16:55:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01721; Wed, 1 Jun 94 16:47:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from Krypton.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01715; Wed, 1 Jun 94 16:47:33 -0700 Received: from localhost (hayden@localhost) by krypton.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id SAA12455; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 18:53:23 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 18:53:23 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Where to get ROT13 To: Pine Info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII For those that don't wanna mess with tr or sed or whatever other goffy things UNIX can do, here's the C source to ROT13: ---ROT13.c --- #include main() /* streamlined version of copy input to output */ { int c; while ((c =getchar()) !=EOF) { if( c>= 97 && c <= 109 ) c=c+13; else if( c >= 110 && c <= 122 ) c=c-13; else if( c >= 65 && c <= 77 ) c=c+13; else if( c >= 78 && c <= 90 ) c=c-13; putchar(c); } } -- end of file -- I did an archie search and got the above from the following site: Host etext.archive.umich.edu Location: /pub/CPSR/crypto/tools/other FILE -rw-r--r-- 223 Aug 15 1993 rot13.c.gz Location: /pub/CPSR/privacy/crypto/tools/other FILE -rw-r--r-- 223 Aug 15 1993 rot13.c.gz ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or Blue Earth County -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 18:10:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02349; Wed, 1 Jun 94 18:10:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21651; Wed, 1 Jun 94 18:02:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21645; Wed, 1 Jun 94 18:02:55 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 17:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: changing default editor Date: 2 Jun 94 00:56:41 GMT Message-Id: References: beta@eskimo.com (Nick Moffitt) writes: >n9246286@gonzo.cc.wwu.edu (Am-mit) writes: > >>Anyone know how I can change the default editor from pico to vi? >>(i've noticed editing my .pinerc file doesn't seem to work). > >> > > Indeed, I am also wondering how one changes ones nn editor from edit to >pico. The way I set up nn (6.4.16 and on, all versions to present), it tracks the environment variable EDITOR. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 18:21:59 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02568; Wed, 1 Jun 94 18:21:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03809; Wed, 1 Jun 94 18:13:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post1.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03803; Wed, 1 Jun 94 18:13:55 -0700 Received: from ecstest.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HD1CP4R2FK8ZMWU4@asu.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 18:16:39 MST Received: from ecstest.asu.edu ([129.219.9.141]) by ecstest.asu.edu with SMTP id <113196>; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 18:13:40 -0700 Date: Wed, 01 Jun 1994 18:13:27 -0700 From: Shahjehan Khatri Subject: Accessing remote inbox without password To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Can someone please tell me whether it is possible to run Pine on machine "A" and then have it access an inbox on machine "B", without prompting for a username and password? (Without Kerberizing Pine, that is.) I created a .rhosts on machine "B" and specified machine "A" and my username on machine "A" in it. (Both machines are running SunOS 4.1.3.) When I try 'rlogin "B", I get prompted for a Password. When I try 'rsh "B"' I get "Permission denied." Incidentally, the hosts.equiv file on "B" is empty. Worse, trying to rlogin to "A" from anywhere results in the following: login: illegal option -- r usage: login [-fp] [username] Connection closed. Rsh to "A" works, but with the following warning: stty: TCGETS: Operation not supported on socket Thanks much. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 19:12:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03097; Wed, 1 Jun 94 19:12:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22772; Wed, 1 Jun 94 19:07:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22764; Wed, 1 Jun 94 19:07:01 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11896; Wed, 1 Jun 94 19:07:00 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 19:06:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PGP (was Pine 3.90 Status) (fwd) Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I think this was intended for the list... -teg ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 21:54:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Kevin Nichols To: Terry Gray Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 Status On Wed, 1 Jun 1994, Terry Gray wrote: > > o PEM/PGP (or equiv) support > > -teg I know in the Post it says that PGP will NOT be intergrated into PINE 3.90 , But i am looking for something ( like a script ) , that will let PINE 3.88 use PGP as an option . Currently i am looking for ANYTHING that will make the use of PGP with PINE 3.88 running under SUN 4.2 UNIX ,Not such a major task . So , if there is anyone out there with PGP that KNOWS who to use it with pine , Please E-mail me with an FTP location , Or any ideas where i should look for a script , program OR , hack ! Thanks in advance . . ___ . * ._ _ ._ _ |_ | _ | _ _ ._ _ -+- _ _ . . * Delaware's ONLY * | `|_)| || `| ||(_||(_`(_`| ||_) | | `/ \|V| * PUBLIC * | |_,| ||_,| ||___ ._)._)| ||_, |_o|_,\_/||| * InterNet Connection From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 19:49:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03717; Wed, 1 Jun 94 19:49:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23377; Wed, 1 Jun 94 19:42:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23371; Wed, 1 Jun 94 19:42:40 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 19:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmr@bu.edu (Rob Rosengard) Subject: Can TIN use PINE to send messages? Date: 2 Jun 1994 02:28:39 GMT Message-Id: <2sjg4n$o25@news.bu.edu> I use TIN for NETNEWS. However, I don't have control over saving the messages sent within TIN as well as other features that PINE has. How can I get TIN to talk with PINE? Please EMAIL me the answer if possible. Thanks, RMR@BU.EDU From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 20:02:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03877; Wed, 1 Jun 94 20:02:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05347; Wed, 1 Jun 94 19:57:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from lucy.socs.uts.EDU.AU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05337; Wed, 1 Jun 94 19:57:13 -0700 Received: from sally.socs.uts.EDU.AU by lucy.socs.uts.EDU.AU with SMTP id AA08377 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 2 Jun 1994 12:24:50 +1000 Received: by sally.socs.uts.EDU.AU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19444; Thu, 2 Jun 94 12:55:53 EST Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 12:52:04 +1000 (EST) From: Anand Kumria Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: Adam J Weitzman Cc: Jim Davis , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 1 Jun 1994, Adam J Weitzman wrote: > No, I cannot. I need to be privy to discussions about things that might > or might not be added to the next version of Pine, ports, contributed > software, announcements, etc. As a duty to the users at my site I *must* > be on this mailing list. Don't people ever read when they subscribe -- there is a seperate mailing list called pine-annouce which sounds like exactly what you are looking for. About things in the future, here is something which i'd like added to pine. Compression. Compression of of sent-mail when the month changes and another file is created -- as I hardly look at these file (but do from time to time) I wouldn't mind waiting while pine decompressed the files for me to look at and then recompressed them when i had finished. Regards, Anand. PS: sorry if this got posted twice -- problem with news <-> mailing lists at my site. -----------------------+-------------------------------------------------------- /\ | akumria@socs.uts.edu.au *preferred* / \ | akumria@banksia.uts.edu.au / \ | Anand.Kumria@f218.n711.z3.fidonet.org / \ | / Kumria \ | "Chaotic order, ---/----------\--- | ordered chaos" / \ | -- Anand Kumria / \ | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 20:49:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04384; Wed, 1 Jun 94 20:49:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24401; Wed, 1 Jun 94 20:42:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24395; Wed, 1 Jun 94 20:42:38 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 20:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (Ed Greshko) Subject: Re: Warning: File Attachments in Pine are encrypted Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 02:28:11 GMT Message-Id: References: <2s9ggo$6mc@news1.digex.net> <2sbc2o$jl4@news1.digex.net> <2sii34$o3r@news.udel.edu> Randy Zagar (zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu) wrote: : Terry Gray wrote in : : as follows: : > > In considering how to handle text attachments, we had a very clear : > > choice between: backwards compatibility for recipients who did not yet : > > have MIME compliant software, and the integrity of the attachments. : > > (Without some encoding, attachments would certainly be corrupted by : > > certain mail gateways and/or mail delivery agents. Even text : > > attachments.) : > > : > > In the end, the decision was made to favor integrity over backward : > > compatibility. : If an MTA will mangle a message with a 7-bit ASCII-TEXT attachment : then, : exactly, how does BASE64 encoding prevent that from happening? Funny, I heard him say "even text attachments". I don't see where he said "7-bit ASCII-TEXT". Would you care to point out where Terry says that??? : vendors who decide to do something like that and suddenly I have two : programs : that won't work together. Don't forget...the University of Washington...(or is it Washington University??? :-) ) is not a vendor. They should not be thought of or treated as such. : There you go again, trying to impose YOUR view of 'correctness' on the : world. With the analogy of uuencoded attachments, do you really : believe : that a company like Bell Atlantic is going to take the time (and $$$) : to change their corporate policy just so they can conform to YOUR idea : of 'correct'-ness ?!? And, if they go along with what you have to say are they not conforming to *your* view of "correctness"? And what makes your view of "correctness" more correct than their view? : *I* think they'd just choose not to use your mailer... Considering the huge sums of money they are paying for the UA..... : If you guys would follow this one guideline, it'll make : both your (and our) lives much easier: : Deal with things as they ARE, not how you think they OUGHT to be. Hummmm....I didn't know things were so black and white. Again, "as they ARE" is only a perception. I may not always agree with what the pine team does....but I applaud them for having a clear and well thoughout reason for their decisions. -- Edward M. Greshko Control Data Taiwan Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 20:57:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04481; Wed, 1 Jun 94 20:57:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24555; Wed, 1 Jun 94 20:52:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24549; Wed, 1 Jun 94 20:52:43 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 20:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chester@access.digex.net (D Mc Intire) Subject: Re: Editing with Pine/Pico Date: 1 Jun 1994 23:26:41 -0400 Message-Id: <2sjjhh$q3u@access3.digex.net> References: <2s58vq$kn8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> In article <2s58vq$kn8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, David Sang-shin Lee wrote: >I often access my mail from home by using Telnet 2.6 (Macintosh) to a >campus UNIX machine. I run Pine 3.89 to access my campus IMAP server and >get my mail. > >My question is this: I haven't been able to use the "mark" feature in >the Pine email editor (and Pico file editor) on my Macintosh. When I use >non-Mac machines on campus, if I type ctrl-^ there is no problem. When I >try to do the same thing from my Mac at home, I get the character "6". > >Any insights out there? Sorry if this is a FAQ; my Usenet site just >started receiving this group 3 days ago. > I don't have any problem with a pc. Are you using the control key, the shift key and and the key that has the six on it together. I had a problem understanding what ctrl-^ meant. -- ______ | \___? Lost and bewildered on chester@access.digex.net |__________| the information highway O O From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 21:07:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04674; Wed, 1 Jun 94 21:07:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24693; Wed, 1 Jun 94 21:02:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24687; Wed, 1 Jun 94 21:02:39 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 20:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fosterpl@ucbeh.san.uc.edu (Paul C. Foster) Subject: IMAP for Windows Message-Id: <1994Jun1.234610.7721@ucbeh> Date: 1 Jun 94 23:46:10 EST Does anyone know of a good IMAP client for Windows? Im fairly attached to Eudora and pop mail but a friend assures me that I will convert shortly. thanks paul =============================================================== = Internet: Paul.Foster@uc.edu Phone: 556-9021 = = Bitnet : Fosterpl@ucbeh.bitnet = = = = Quote of the day: = = Nothing befalls a man except what is in = = his nature to endure. = = = = --Marcus Aurelius = =============================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 21:18:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04909; Wed, 1 Jun 94 21:18:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24874; Wed, 1 Jun 94 21:12:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24868; Wed, 1 Jun 94 21:12:39 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 21:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rvenable@alw.nih.gov (Rick Venable) Subject: pine hangs when "Sending mail" Message-Id: <1994Jun2.034946.10564@alw.nih.gov> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 03:49:46 GMT Pine keeps hanging up, that is it fails to respond to further keystrokes, once the "Sending mail" message appears; starting a second copy in another window frees up the first, and the mail is sent. It's very annoying behavior, and we may give up on pine as a mail client and stick with the "elm" that came with HP-UX. It's a bit clunky, but at least it works. Suggestions are welcome; we prefer pine, but can't accept this absurd file "locking" behavior, and can't find anything explicit about it in the docs. Help save a tree. -- Rick Venable =====\ |=| "Eschew FDA/CBER Biophysics Lab |____/ |=| Obfuscation" Bethesda, MD U.S.A. | \ / |=| rvenable@helix.nih.gov \/ |=| -- the Phantom Nerd From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 23:38:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06610; Wed, 1 Jun 94 23:38:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26931; Wed, 1 Jun 94 23:30:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26925; Wed, 1 Jun 94 23:30:41 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14719; Wed, 1 Jun 94 23:30:40 -0700 Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 23:30:37 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Randy Bush Subject: Gateway failure Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Apparently the gateway from pine-info to comp.mail.pine has broken in the mail->news direction (I wondered why comp.mail.pine was drying up already ;). The gateway maintainer and myself are working to remedy this problem. Sorry about the inconvenience. --DLM P.S. I am both mailing and posting this. Sorry about any duplication. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 2 00:18:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07173; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:18:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27568; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:11:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from gw1.epmhs.gr by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27562; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:11:32 -0700 Received: by epmhs.gr id AA19015 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 2 Jun 1994 10:04:03 +0300 From: Nikos Passas Message-Id: <199406020704.AA19015@epmhs.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: unsubscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 10:04:02 +0300 (EET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5] Content-Length: 12 Content-Id: Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Charset: ELOT_928 X-Char-Esc: 29 unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 2 00:25:37 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07235; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:25:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09659; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:18:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from helios.herts.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09643; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:18:47 -0700 Received: from herts.ac.uk by helios.herts.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <16943-0@helios.herts.ac.uk>; Thu, 2 Jun 1994 08:15:14 +0100 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 08:17:37 +0100 (BST) From: Colette Monaghan Reply-To: Colette Monaghan Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: pine-info@edu.washington.cac In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > > I must agree with Simon [and Paul et al]. The volume on the mail > >list is approaching the intolerable level. I agree with this viewpoint. I am finding the level of mail intolerable now, it was fine before. *************************************** Colette Monaghan, User Services, Computer Centre, University of Hertfordshire, Hatfield, Herts., AL10 9AB E-mail c.monaghan@herts.ac.uk ************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 2 00:36:09 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07520; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:36:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09729; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:23:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sunstel.asu.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09723; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:23:05 -0700 Received: by sunstel.asu.cas.cz (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02998; Thu, 2 Jun 94 09:22:22 +0200 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 09:22:19 +0200 (MET DST) From: Petr Skoda Subject: Suggestion for improvement To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII At the beginning of each month pine asks about moving sent-mail folder to folder signed with month . But then it asks the deletion of the old sent-mail-month folder. I have all the old sent-mail folder archived, so it is annoying to answer several times No. Would it be possible implement an extension (Yes, No, All, Quit) for this question ( or others questions too?) ************************************************************************* * Petr Skoda Phone : +42-204-85201, ext. 361 * * Stellar Department +42-204-857361,857136 * * Astronomical Institute CAS Fax : +42-2-881611 * * 251 65 Ondrejov e-mail: skoda@sunstel.asu.cas.cz * * Czech Republic aststel@csearn.bitnet * ************************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 2 00:39:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07563; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:39:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27870; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:32:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27864; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:32:51 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ez042914@degas.ucdavis.edu (Rakarra) Subject: Re: Do you HAVE to use PICO with PINE? Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 07:14:01 GMT David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) babbled: : Pine 3.90 will have an option to allow you to enter the alternate editor : automatically when entering the body of the message, but the composer will : still be used for the headers. I believe earlier versions may contain this feature as well. I use version 3.89, and I can across the following in my .pinerc: # editor specifies the program invoked by ^_ in the Composer. # This is normally an alternative to Pine's internal composer (Pico) editor= Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a path to another editor here switch it from Pico to the other editor? -- Ian Westcott. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- | The SilverDragon has his lair at: | "I can go to bed, now that I know | | ez042914@dale.ucdavis.edu | my underwear is in the hall." | | westcott@langmuir.cs.ucdavis.edu | - My RA | ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 2 04:38:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11551; Thu, 2 Jun 94 04:38:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13523; Thu, 2 Jun 94 04:29:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from dir.bris.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13517; Thu, 2 Jun 94 04:29:12 -0700 Received: from adm1.bristol.ac.uk by dir.bris.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <26730-0@dir.bris.ac.uk>; Thu, 2 Jun 1994 12:28:39 +0100 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 12:29:05 +0100 (BST) From: Dave King Subject: Pine 3.89/3.89 compatibility questions. To: Pine Information Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Could someone please advise me... 1. Are there any issues that will prevent a user switching between Pine 3.89 and Pine 3.90? For example, .pinerc format, postponed message(s) filename(s), etc. What are the implications (if any) of reverting to 3.89 after using 3.90? 2. Is it possible to configure Pine 3.90 to run in a "Pine 3.89 compatibility mode", or gradually "switch on" the new features of Pine 3.90 with the system-wide configuration file? Thanks, Dave From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 2 04:54:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11815; Thu, 2 Jun 94 04:54:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01891; Thu, 2 Jun 94 04:48:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <@astro.ocis.temple.edu:Sam_McLane@compserv.ocis.temple.edu> Received: from astro.ocis.temple.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01885; Thu, 2 Jun 94 04:48:28 -0700 Received: from compserv.ocis.temple.edu by astro.ocis.temple.edu (5.61/25) id AA21588; Thu, 2 Jun 94 07:48:26 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by compserv.ocis.temple.edu id AA770568511 Thu, 02 Jun 94 07:48:31 EST Date: Thu, 02 Jun 94 07:48:31 EST From: Sam_McLane@compserv.ocis.temple.edu (Sam McLane) Message-Id: <9405027705.AA770568511@compserv.ocis.temple.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: unsub unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 2 04:55:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11846; Thu, 2 Jun 94 04:55:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01873; Thu, 2 Jun 94 04:47:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01867; Thu, 2 Jun 94 04:47:34 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 04:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scsx01!siagacaa@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Becarios Pc-Pine) Subject: Inbox Path Date: 2 Jun 1994 11:58:05 GMT Message-Id: <2skhgd$j60@scdx01.sc.ehu.es> Hello. We've just put PINE into our campus network but we have a problem each time we want to use it. When we start PINE (PC-PINE) it asks us for the INBOX PATH where we want to receive the messages and of course we write it. Then PINE asks for storing this path and here comes the "bug": If we respond 'Yes' PINE stores the path into the PINERC file. Once the path has been stored then program runs correctly. Then we quit PINE and then we try to begin a new session. Now PINERC has the inbox path and PINE doesn't ask for it but !!it stops!!. In the screen we see "Opening INBOX" but PINE doesn't open anything, keyboard get stuck and we have to reset our PC. Of course if we say 'No' PINE asks for the INBOX PATH and there's no problems. The thing we want to avoid is writing the INBOX PATH each time we use PINE but if we store that path into PINERC, PINE stops. Is there an answer to this problem? Is it a bug in PINE? HELP !!!!!! Alberto Garcia Casas & Bruno Grilli Arrese-Igor (UPV-EHU, Spain) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 2 06:06:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12730; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:06:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14877; Thu, 2 Jun 94 05:56:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from netop3.harvard.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14871; Thu, 2 Jun 94 05:56:48 -0700 Received: by netop3.harvard.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA05232; Thu, 2 Jun 1994 08:59:52 -0400 Received: from folly.gsd0.harvard.edu by gsd.harvard.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05869; Thu, 2 Jun 94 09:00:03 EDT Date: Thu, 2 Jun 94 09:00:03 EDT From: wmahoney@venus.gsd.harvard.edu (William Mahoney) Message-Id: <9406021300.AA05869@ gsd.harvard.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 2 06:24:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12988; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:24:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03147; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:16:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03141; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:16:03 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 05:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kgb@mail.ast.cam.ac.uk (Karl Glazebrook) Subject: Re: ROT 13 Date: 2 Jun 1994 12:25:16 GMT Message-Id: <2skj3c$o9u@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: <1994Jun1.175931.27681@ida.liu.se> BTW in answer to the original post if you ROT 13 twice you get back the original encoded text (i.e. ROT 13 is it's own inverse). That's why it's ROT 13 as opposed to ROT 12 etc. -- 13 = 26/2 you see... --- Karl Glazebrook, email: kgb@mail.ast.cam.ac.uk Institute of Astronomy, finger: kgb@jhereg.ast.cam.ac.uk Cambridge, U.K. WWW: http://cast0.ast.cam.ac.uk/~kgb/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 2 06:25:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13009; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:25:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03139; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:16:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03130; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:16:00 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 05:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: paul@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Re: IMAP for Windows Message-Id: <1994Jun2.072021.65048@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> Date: 2 Jun 94 07:20:21 CDT References: <1994Jun1.234610.7721@ucbeh> In article <1994Jun1.234610.7721@ucbeh>, fosterpl@ucbeh.san.uc.edu (Paul C. Foster) writes: > Does anyone know of a good IMAP client for Windows? Im fairly attached to > Eudora and pop mail but a friend assures me that I will convert shortly. I'm running ECSMail and love it. Ask about how to get a demo copy from ecs-sales@edm.isac.ca "Craig Paul" (913-864-0412 Computer Center Academic Technical Support - Wide Area Networking - Net Security) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 2 06:26:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13045; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:26:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03185; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:17:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from indiv-gw.cent.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03179; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:17:51 -0700 Received: by individual.com (5.65c/Spike-2.1) id AA23237; Thu, 2 Jun 1994 09:17:28 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 09:11:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: Anand Kumria Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Jun 1994, Anand Kumria wrote: > > No, I cannot. I need to be privy to discussions about things that might > > or might not be added to the next version of Pine, ports, contributed > > software, announcements, etc. As a duty to the users at my site I *must* > > be on this mailing list. > > Don't people ever read when they subscribe -- there is a seperate mailing > list called pine-annouce which sounds like exactly what you are looking for. It may sound like it, but it isn't. pine-announce takes care of the "announcements" part of my list, but not anything else. I do read when I subscribe, BTW, and I knew about pine-anounce, but it will not cover everything I need to see. I need to be able to be part of discussions if the situation arises, I need to have some insight as to what is being considered and suggested, not just what will appear in the next release, etc. Pine-announce will not do all that for me. "Don't people ever read..." was a really nasty and unnecessary comment. I could have responded to fully one-third of the posts to this list since the newsgroup gatewaying began with that comment, but I didn't. I know what I need, and pine-announce isn't it. - Adam J Weitzman INDIVIDUAL, Inc. weitzman@individual.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 2 06:27:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13066; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:27:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03127; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:15:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03121; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:15:57 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 05:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: weave@hopi.dtcc.edu (Ken Weaverling) Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. Date: 2 Jun 1994 07:46:04 -0400 Message-Id: <2skgps$llr@hopi.dtcc.edu> References: In article , <@psg.com> wrote: > >I agree with this viewpoint. I am finding the level of mail intolerable >now, it was fine before. Understandable, but at least keep the mail list flowing to news. I unsubscribed to the mail list after years on it and now read via the newsgroup and I love it. -- Ken Weaverling weave@dtcc.edu |*| My opinions .NEQ. college's position From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 08:32:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02040; Fri, 3 Jun 94 08:32:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05273; Thu, 2 Jun 94 08:15:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05267; Thu, 2 Jun 94 08:15:20 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 07:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: robert@tpe.ncm.com (robert) Subject: Latest Version, what/where Message-Id: <1994Jun2.135019.5584@tpe.ncm.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 13:50:19 GMT What is the current/latest version of pine/pico, and where can it be ftp'd from? Thanks, Robert From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 08:34:29 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02111; Fri, 3 Jun 94 08:34:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15865; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:55:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15859; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:55:42 -0700 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA20573; Thu, 2 Jun 1994 09:53:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 09:53:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael C. Newell" Subject: Number of lines on the terminal screen To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How does PINE determine the number of lines to use on a terminal screen? I have a user using NCSA Telnet, which allows you to set more lines on the screen than the basic 24. He'd like to use 33 - is this doable?? Thanks, Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | reflect those of the NSI program, | |+1-202-434-8954 | NASA, my employer, or anyone else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 08:57:09 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03082; Fri, 3 Jun 94 08:57:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16521; Thu, 2 Jun 94 07:33:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from himalia.pt.hk-r.se by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16515; Thu, 2 Jun 94 07:33:37 -0700 Received: by himalia.pt.hk-r.se id AA16866 (5.65+bind 1.7+ida 1.4.2/IDA-1.4.2 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 2 Jun 94 16:28:16 +0200 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 16:27:13 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andy Eskilsson Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: Ken Weaverling Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2skgps$llr@hopi.dtcc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > In article , > <@psg.com> wrote: > > > >I agree with this viewpoint. I am finding the level of mail intolerable > >now, it was fine before. > > Understandable, but at least keep the mail list flowing to news. I > unsubscribed to the mail list after years on it and now read via the > newsgroup and I love it. > Why not split the newsgroup into pine-info and pine-answers? Or have I missed some discussion? BTW I don't seem to be able to find the pine newsgroup, where is it? /andy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 08:57:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03134; Fri, 3 Jun 94 08:57:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04091; Thu, 2 Jun 94 07:10:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04085; Thu, 2 Jun 94 07:10:05 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 05:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: paul@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu Subject: PC Pine and VMS filename problems Message-Id: <1994Jun2.074901.65050@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> Date: 2 Jun 94 07:49:01 CDT See vmsnet.mail.pmdf for problems using PC Pine with VMS machines, specifically mail file names with would have the $ character somewhere in the file specification (like sys$login:mail.mai) "Craig Paul" (913-864-0412 Computer Center Academic Technical Support - Wide Area Networking - Net Security) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 09:09:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03994; Fri, 3 Jun 94 09:09:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18421; Thu, 2 Jun 94 08:53:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sdac.harvard.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18415; Thu, 2 Jun 94 08:53:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (gaer@localhost) by sdac.harvard.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id LAA08433; Thu, 2 Jun 1994 11:53:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 11:53:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Arthur Gaer Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: "Robert A. Hayden" Cc: Pine Info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 1 Jun 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote: > I am seriously concerned that as the newgroup message propogates (it > hasn't even gotten here yet), this list will become absolutely unbareable. > > C) Leave as is, but create a non-ported mailing list called pine-guru, > pine-admin, pine-tech, or some such for people that deal with > suggestions for the future, system-based installation concerns, and > the like to talk on, and not deal with a huge number of FAQs that > will get asked every 48 hours or so (and note that making an FAQ > document won't help at all). > D) Digestify pine-info. Perhaps as a seperate mailing list called > pine-info-digest or something. Same information, but in chunks > instead of individually. I actually prefer individually, but > others are different. > > My vote, personally, is to create the seperate list for technical and > development discussions (basically what the old list was) and to set up a > digested distribution as well. I am in strong agreement with the above suggestion (quoted at length because I'm afraid the original will get lost in the tens of Pine messages coming through every day): A separate technical mailing list which won't be inundated with FFAQs would be quite useful for me (and, by extension, the users on my system) without my mailbox being flooded with a couple hundred messages every couple of days. Keeping up with Pine/mail development and technical/configuration issues is quite useful to me, seeing the same novice questions over and over is not. Since I can't really tell from the Subject lines which messages might be useful and which are asking, for the umpteenth time, about a mail filter program, I'm forced to wade through all these messages every morning--it's become a real time sink in only a week. Creating a separate mailing list will allow the current gated list to continue in existence, since this gating seems of importance to a few people. Meanwhile, I can get on with that part of my job that doesn't involve reading Pine FAQs, and I can always read the newsgroup should I feel so motivated. -- Art Gaer Unix Systems Analyst gaer@sdac.harvard.edu (617) 432-2521 Statistical & Data Analysis Center, Dept. of Biostatistics Harvard University, School of Public Health From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 09:27:27 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04830; Fri, 3 Jun 94 09:27:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04604; Thu, 2 Jun 94 07:41:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04591; Thu, 2 Jun 94 07:41:01 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: plaws@comp..uark.edu (Peter Laws) Subject: Re: Warning: File Attachments in Pine are encrypted Date: 2 Jun 1994 13:37:00 GMT Message-Id: <2skn9s$8d1@wizard.uark.edu> References: <2s9ggo$6mc@news1.digex.net> bcard@world.std.com (Bill Card) writes: >Unfortunately, I did not know that MIME would be used, and neither did my >correspondents. I got upset messages back, saying things like "please >don't encode the attachments". So now I use ^R, and everyone is pleased. >If MIME is to be the future standard, how do we all learn to use it? I'm confused here. The docs, online help, and context-sensitive help ALL say that 1) MIME will be used for all attachments 2) The recipient MUST HAVE MIME to read the attachments 3) If the recipient does not have a MIME-compatible mailer, s/he may have difficulty extracting the message _even_ _if_ _the_ _attachment_ _is_ _plain_ _text_!!! If Pine doesn't suit your needs, well, there must be a dozen other mailers you could use. All this bandwidth wasted because someone didn't RTFM ... :-) Peter - a happy Pine user since 1992 ... Peter Laws |"Let's make sure history never forgets the n5uwy@ka5bml.#nwar.ar.usa.noam | name ... Enterprise" ST:TNG - 1987-1994 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 09:28:05 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04873; Fri, 3 Jun 94 09:28:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16753; Thu, 2 Jun 94 07:45:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16747; Thu, 2 Jun 94 07:45:57 -0700 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA20736; Thu, 2 Jun 1994 10:43:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 10:43:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael C. Newell" Subject: Re: Warning: File Attachments in Pine are encrypted To: Adam J Weitzman Cc: Randy Zagar , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 1 Jun 1994, Adam J Weitzman wrote: > > Deal with things as they ARE, not how you think they OUGHT to be. > > > > Most major computer companies pursue backwards compatability until it's > > clear that they're just whipping a dead horse. > > OK, let's take your suggestion to deal with things as they are. > I agree. Some input: How things are: - PINE uses MIME encoding for attachments, even if they are ASCII text. - UW has written PINE that way according to the requirements of their user community (i.e. the people that are paying them.) - ASCII text files can be included in any message via the control-R command from the PICO editor. Three ways to deal with things as they are: - Use the control-R command from the PICO editor when you want to enclose an ASCII text file. - Pay UW to include your requirements in their specifications. - Use another package. Seems pretty simple to me. I prefer the first - PINE is a VERY nice package and it's priced right in my budget range. My *THANKS* to the UW people for providing a very solid package at a VERY attractive price. AND for being as responsive as possible to a large crowd of critics... :{) Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | reflect those of the NSI program, | |+1-202-434-8954 | NASA, my employer, or anyone else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 10:36:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07638; Fri, 3 Jun 94 10:36:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08606; Thu, 2 Jun 94 10:24:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08600; Thu, 2 Jun 94 10:24:19 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 09:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bonnetf@esiee.fr (Frank Bonnet) Subject: Official ftp site for pine please. Date: 2 Jun 1994 18:31:50 +0200 Message-Id: <1994Jun2.183028@esiee.fr> Could somebody send me the official ftp site to get the PINE package ? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 11:25:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10159; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:25:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09908; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:13:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09902; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:13:45 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 10:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dragon@csulb.edu (Brian Lo) Subject: Pine Documentations Date: 2 Jun 1994 17:04:35 GMT Message-Id: <2sl3f3$bdv@garuda.csulb.edu> News From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 11:36:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10756; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:36:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10167; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:22:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10161; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:22:25 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 10:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: .pinerc--what's in it? Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 10:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2sfq3h$kal@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Just over-writing a .pinerc (pine configuration) file will not damage any folders. They appear to disappear because various settings have been altered, though. Recover or regenerate the .pinerc and everything should be OK. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 31 May 1994, Leah wrote: > I was asked to help a client with the following problem (this is the e-mail > he sent me). > > > In a flash of stupidity I downloaded a file called .pinerc from > >another account into my account which contained a file by the same name. > >It seems that the one I downloaded replaced the one I had originally > >which resulted in me losing folders and saved messages I had in the pine > >program. However when I checked how much disk space i was using I notice > >that i was still using as much space as i was before i replaced the > >information which makes me think that the information is still there. Is > >there any thing i can do? > > > Please respond to my post if you have an answer. Thanks!!!! > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Leah J. Dicker College of Education > CCSO Microcomputer Consulting University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign > ****My opinions are my opinions.***** > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 11:56:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11895; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:56:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10531; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:36:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from smdis01.mcclellan.af.mil by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10525; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:35:58 -0700 Received: from clyde.mcclellan.af.mil by smdis01.mcclellan.af.mil (5.61/sm5.2) with SMTP; id AA10310; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:35:48 -0700 Return-Path: Received: by clyde.mcclellan.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06750; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:36:03 PDT Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 11:36:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Perdue Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: "Robert A. Hayden" Cc: Pine Info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I agree with Robert that another solution is needed. I would vote for option c (Leave as is, but create a non-ported mailing list). Even in the early stages the flame wars are already starting and the spams and other garbage posts are sure to follow. Another suggestion for people using the newsgroup would be to maintain a FAQ. It is alot easier to tell someone to read item x in the FAQ than to use the bandwidth to explain to a 100 or so people how to place their signature in an email. If the good folks at Pine would like the help I will volunteer to coordinate the FAQ. --- ____ _________________________________________ / ___| __ _ _ __ _ _ | Gary L. Perdue unix technical lead | | | _ / _` | '__| | | | | 652nd CCSG/SCCB McClellan AFB, Ca 95652 | | |_| | (_| | | | |_| | | Phone (916)643-4666 FAX (916)643-1526 | \____|\__,_|_| \__, | | email perdue@clyde.mcclellan.af.mil | |___/ |_________________________________________| -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "I believe OS/2 is destined to be the most important operating system, and possibly program, of all time" - Bill Gates, Nov, 1987. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- On Wed, 1 Jun 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote: > Some possible solutions: > > A) remove porting > B) Make porting one way, from list to group, but NOT from group to list > C) Leave as is, but create a non-ported mailing list called pine-guru, > pine-admin, pine-tech, or some such for people that deal with > suggestions for the future, system-based installation concerns, and > the like to talk on, and not deal with a huge number of FAQs that > will get asked every 48 hours or so (and note that making an FAQ > document won't help at all). > D) Digestify pine-info. Perhaps as a seperate mailing list called > pine-info-digest or something. Same information, but in chunks > instead of individually. I actually prefer individually, but > others are different. > E) Everyone switches to elm (well, ok, that's not a good idea :-) > > My vote, personally, is to create the seperate list for technical and > development discussions (basically what the old list was) and to set up a > digested distribution as well. If the Lords of Pine aren't sure how to > do the digesting, I'd suggest contacting the folx at queernet.org, as > they have accomplished this using majordomo (perhaps majordomo can > already inherently do it, I'm not sure). > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 11:57:42 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11955; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:57:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23176; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:39:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from suma2.rdg.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23168; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:39:56 -0700 Received: from reading.ac.uk by mail2.reading.ac.uk with SMTP - Local (PP) id <19059-0@mail2.reading.ac.uk>; Thu, 2 Jun 1994 19:39:27 +0100 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 19:39:17 BST From: John Stumbles Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: Arthur Gaer Cc: "Robert A. Hayden" , Pine Info X-Sender: suqstmbl@suma1.rdg.ac.uk In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Jun 1994, Arthur Gaer wrote: > On Wed, 1 Jun 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote: > > > My vote, personally, is to create the seperate list for technical and > > development discussions (basically what the old list was) and to set up a > > digested distribution as well. > > I am in strong agreement with the above suggestion ... > ... A separate technical mailing list which won't > be inundated with FFAQs ... Keeping up with Pine/mail > development and technical/configuration issues is quite useful to me, > seeing the same novice questions over and over is not. > ...it's become a real time sink in only a week. Agreed! John Stumbles j.d.stumbles@reading.ac.uk University of Reading 0734 318435 Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF, UK +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 11:59:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12039; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:59:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23253; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:41:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uu3.psi.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23247; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:41:07 -0700 Received: from naz.edu by uu3.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA01392 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:26:54 -0400 Received: from hydra.naz.edu.naz.edu by naz.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-DNI) id AA01518; Thu, 2 Jun 94 13:47:25 EDT Received: by hydra.naz.edu.naz.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA25130; Thu, 2 Jun 1994 13:53:43 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 13:43:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael A. Naud" Subject: Printing with VersaTerm on the Mac To: Pine Discussion Group Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Help. I use VersaTerm 5.0 for the Mac to connect to our mainframe to use Pine for UNIX. When printing out a long message from Pine, I always get garbled text to come out of my printer. It is never the same. Here is what I have tried to isolate the problem: use Pine 3.87, no luck use Pine 3.89, no luck use a serial connection to a term. server, no luck use the AppleTalk driver to connect via Ethernet, no luck turn off print monitor, no luck I will try it out with an ImageWriter to see if the problem persists. Does anyone have a clue? I'm sure someone out there is using a Mac, and someone should be using VersaTerm. Any help would be great. This has several of us in computer services stumped. I remember reading in the print screen that the attached-to-ansi had been tested with VersaTerm Pro. Am I missing some obvious setting? I would hate to switch to another terminal emulator, as all of the Mac people on campus use VersaTerm. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. Michael A. Naud Dept. of Academic Computing ---- Michael A. Naud (716) 586-2525 VOICE Nazareth College of Rochester (716) 586-2452 FACSIMILE 4245 East Avenue manaud@naz.edu E-MAIL Rochester, NY 14618-3980 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 12:14:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12608; Fri, 3 Jun 94 12:14:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11234; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:57:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11224; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:57:10 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 10:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine 3.89/3.89 compatibility questions. Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 10:34:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Unfortunately, there is a bug in Pine 3.89 that can cause damage to a Pine 3.90 .pinerc file if you use certain new features. Pine 3.90 will look virtually identical to pine 3.89 for the novice user. The major new features will need to be explicitly enabled, either per-user or globally. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 2 Jun 1994, it was written: > Could someone please advise me... > > 1. Are there any issues that will prevent a user switching between Pine > 3.89 and Pine 3.90? For example, .pinerc format, postponed message(s) > filename(s), etc. > > What are the implications (if any) of reverting to 3.89 after using 3.90? > > 2. Is it possible to configure Pine 3.90 to run in a "Pine 3.89 > compatibility mode", or gradually "switch on" the new features of > Pine 3.90 with the system-wide configuration file? > > > Thanks, > > Dave > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 12:18:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12734; Fri, 3 Jun 94 12:18:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11243; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:57:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11236; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:57:13 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Latest Version, what/where Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 10:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994Jun2.135019.5584@tpe.ncm.com> Version: 3.89 Site: ftp.cac.washington.edu Source: mail/pine.tar.Z PC binaries: mail/pcpine/*.zip Unix binaries: mail/unix-bin/* IMAP source: mail/imap.tar.Z (experimental) |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 2 Jun 1994, robert wrote: > What is the current/latest version of pine/pico, and where can it be ftp'd > from? > Thanks, Robert > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 12:18:38 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12744; Fri, 3 Jun 94 12:18:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11252; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:57:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11244; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:57:17 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Number of lines on the terminal screen Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 10:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Give the command "stty rows 33" before entering Pine... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 2 Jun 1994, it was written: > How does PINE determine the number of lines to use on a terminal screen? > I have a user using NCSA Telnet, which allows you to set more lines on > the screen than the basic 24. He'd like to use 33 - is this doable?? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > > +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ > |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | > |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | > |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | reflect those of the NSI program, | > |+1-202-434-8954 | NASA, my employer, or anyone else. | > +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 14:04:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16462; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:04:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13779; Thu, 2 Jun 94 13:52:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13773; Thu, 2 Jun 94 13:51:59 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 13:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scottt@storm.cs.orst.edu (Scott Tzibra Leah) Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. Date: 2 Jun 1994 19:22:01 GMT Message-Id: <2slbgpINN7te@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> References: In article , <@psg.com> wrote: >Since I can't really tell from the Subject lines which messages might be >useful and which are asking, for the umpteenth time, about a mail >filter program Maybe it's because no one will anwser the question asked. Personally, I have had no trouble telling from the Subject lines what the posts are about. And until this group showed up in news, I didn't even know there was a mailing list. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 14:11:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16794; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:11:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13993; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:01:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13984; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:01:26 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 13:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jaguar1@netcom.com (Glen Wooten) Subject: Re: Number of lines on the terminal screen Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 19:16:10 GMT @psg.com wrote: : How does PINE determine the number of lines to use on a terminal screen? : I have a user using NCSA Telnet, which allows you to set more lines on : the screen than the basic 24. He'd like to use 33 - is this doable?? Pine doesn't do the terminal settings, your provider does. I ran into this before. I'm using a VT100 emulation, but I use a 50 line screen. It's probably in your login file somewhere, but with Unix you can use STTY to set the number of lines for the screen. However, in most cases, you will also have to reset the envelope, using the SETENV command. Otherwise, you'd get 33, 50 or whatever lines from the centre of you screen (not very useful.) Check the equivalent commands your system uses, but this method should work. -- jaguar1@netcom.com (alternate: g.wooten@genie.geis.com) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 14:14:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16895; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:14:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14002; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:01:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13994; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:01:29 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 13:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kurasaki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Stanley Kurasaki) Subject: Re: Can TIN use PINE to send messages? Message-Id: References: <2sjg4n$o25@news.bu.edu> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 19:50:50 GMT : I use TIN for NETNEWS. However, I don't have control : over saving the messages sent within TIN as well as : other features that PINE has. How can I get TIN to : talk with PINE? Please EMAIL me the answer if possible. Go into the .tin directory and edit the tinrc file and file the default_editor_format and change it to default_editor_format=pico +%N %F I hope this is what you are asking for and am not sure what you mean by other features. Stan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 14:14:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16904; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:14:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14010; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:01:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14004; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:01:34 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 13:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: D.J.Martinez@bradford.ac.uk (Wedge Antilles) Subject: address book query Message-Id: <1994Jun2.200825.24752@bradford.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 20:08:25 GMT A friend has mailed me with a list of addresses and I want to put them in my address book without having to type them in....can you help me??? I am working on a Sun Sparc with Unix... Dom -- /\_/\ d.j.martinez@bradford.ac.uk (o o) ' out on the peace ' ------------------------------oOO--(=)--OOo----------------------------- buryfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfc From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 14:45:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18059; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:45:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14792; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:32:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14786; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:32:33 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 13:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: davadam@eskimo.com (David Adam Edelstein) Subject: Re: Multiple mailing w/out mult. listing?!? Message-Id: References: <2s3amm$blp@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu> <2s9pe5$6mc@news1.digex.net> <2sdjlo$6gc@netaxs.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 20:36:09 GMT rak@netaxs.com (nobody special) writes: >Let me ask this: will the BCC field accept list aliases? Yes. Then, the list goes away when you turn off "rich header" (^R in the address field) very nice. --dae From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 14:54:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18503; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:54:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15085; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:43:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15077; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:43:14 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: umchrus0@cc.umanitoba.ca (Bruce David Chrustie) Subject: Re: Official ftp site for pine please. Date: 2 Jun 1994 20:22:53 GMT Message-Id: <2slf2t$gpo@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> References: <1994Jun2.183028@esiee.fr> try ftp.cac.washington.edu -bruce From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 15:14:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19406; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:14:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15590; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:01:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from upr2.clu.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15584; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:01:36 -0700 Received: by upr2.clu.net (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.13) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 17:20 EST Received: from mosquito.uwimona.edu.jm by xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm (5.64/10.0) id AA29762; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:15:16 -0400 Received: by mosquito.uwimona.edu.jm (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01344; Thu, 2 Jun 94 16:20:57 EDT Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 16:11:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Keith Manison Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: Adam J Weitzman Cc: Jim Davis , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I thoroughly endorse Adam's comments. Our mail connection is via a UUCP dial up connection to Puerto Rico as we are not connected to the Internet. We don't get news of any description so the only way to keep abreast of PINE events is the mailing list. The bi-directional gateway has not only increased my "junk mail" but has significantly increased our telephone bill! ======================================================================== Keith Manison Phone (809)927-2253 Information Systems Strategic Planner (809)972-2781 Office of the Principal Fax (809)972-2156 University of the West Indies Email manison@uwimona.edu.jm Mona, Kingston 7, Jamaica W.I. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 15:18:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19578; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:18:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15666; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:04:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15660; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:04:46 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00314; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:04:45 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16506; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:05:21 -0700 Received: from panix.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26684; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:01:04 -0700 Received: by panix.com id AA08081 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 2 Jun 1994 13:11:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 13:10:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Saul Rabia To: pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 15:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Subject: Resent mail.... Resent-Message-Id: would someone tell me how to download the Help manual, or the Gen. Pine Info. etc. TKS. Saul S. Rabia From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 15:42:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20682; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:42:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16316; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:29:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16310; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:29:19 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pawcamp@u.cc.utah.edu (Paul Campbell) Subject: Question regarding Pine (FAQ?) Date: 2 Jun 1994 15:18:17 -0600 Message-Id: <2sliap$cqv@u.cc.utah.edu> using Pine 3.07 I currently am maintaining a list of people who share a common interest (in this case, modem games). I created a list of addresses using the add-to-list command, which places those names in the .addresslist? file in my root directory. To date, when I update, I simply mailed all of them using pine...addressing the nickname of the maillist instead of individually. No problem right?. Well, when I get feedback from the group, everyone else gets the email? I guess that's because all the email addresses are stuffed in the the "To: " line, right? I'm confused by it all!!! I'd like to make the email I send to the group in a Digest form..that is, only I can send to the whole group....only I get the feedback...get it? I'd also like to automate received files with a certain subject so that they are placed in a certain folder..can this be done? thanks in advance! pc -- Paul W. Campbell 801-320-7777 Support Megahertz Corporation 801-320-8840 BBS 605 N 5600 W, M/S 2108 801-320-6020 Fax Salt Lake City, UT 801-320-6220 Faxback From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 15:53:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20926; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:53:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16617; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:38:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16611; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:38:36 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: umward10@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca (Derek Ward) Subject: Re: Can TIN use PINE to send messages? Date: 2 Jun 1994 21:19:42 GMT Message-Id: <2slide$lto@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> References: <2sjg4n$o25@news.bu.edu> Rob Rosengard (rmr@bu.edu) wrote: : : I use TIN for NETNEWS. However, I don't have control : over saving the messages sent within TIN as well as : other features that PINE has. How can I get TIN to : talk with PINE? Please EMAIL me the answer if possible. I would like to know if there is way also. Please forward a copy of any replies to me. : : Thanks, : RMR@BU.EDU -- Derek Ward Computer Science III Co-Op U of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 15:55:47 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21033; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:55:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29193; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:43:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from minnie.bell.inmet.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29187; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:43:08 -0700 Received: by minnie.bell.inmet.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22562; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:43:01 PDT Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 15:43:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Tarr Subject: Pine Line Wrap Question To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Paul Tarr Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a question about long lines in mail received by pine that I have not seen covered in any of the documentation I have looked at. Sometimes I receive mail whose lines are much longer than the 80 characters or so displayed by pine. Pine displays the contents of the received mail correctly (by line wrap I presume) but when I try to print out the mail, our printer doesn't do the line wrap operation. Thus major portions of the mail message are lost. The problem is that there appears to be no way to determine in advance if this will be a problem since both wrapped and non-wrapped mail messages appear the same when displayed by pine. Is there some way to force pine to print what is displayed by inserting LF or LF/CR at the points where the line wrap occurs? This is a serious problem for me since I have to frequently clean up my disk space and assuming that the print operation works correctly has caused me to lose the contents of many mail messages. A related annoyance is the handling of wordwrap in forwarding or replies. When the character > is inserted in a reply, for example, the included message is not line wrapped in the pine display. In order to see the entire encluded message, the reply has to be edited by hand and additional > characters inserted. Is there any way to make this an automatic operation? I am using pine 3.89 on a SUN unix workstation and the precompiled binary pine program ftped from UW. CHEERS from Paul Tarr (pwt@minnie.bell.inmet.com) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 16:01:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21253; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:01:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16779; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:48:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16773; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:48:13 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: robelr@indiana.edu (Allen Robel) Subject: Text formatting bug in Pine 3.89 for SunOS? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 21:40:30 GMT Hi, Sorry if this has been brought up before, but does anyone know when the bug that slides all text in a received mail note to the right in SunOS Pine 3.89 will be fixed? i.e. If you send me: This sentence it looks like: This sentence when I receive it. This is pretty frustrating when the text contains things like ASCII diagrams... Thanks! allen (robelr@indiana.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 16:01:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21262; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:01:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16787; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:48:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16781; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:48:16 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: robelr@indiana.edu (Allen Robel) Subject: Re: Text formatting bug in SunOS Pine 3.89? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 21:43:22 GMT I said: bug that slides all text in a received mail note to the right in SunOS Pine ^^^^^ Opps, I meant to say "left." sorry, allen (robelr@indiana.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 17:16:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24795; Fri, 3 Jun 94 17:16:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18492; Thu, 2 Jun 94 17:02:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18486; Thu, 2 Jun 94 17:02:13 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 16:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ec880044@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw (Ahmad Al-Nusif) Subject: [HELP] Running Pine on VMS Date: Thu, 2 Jun 94 23:35:25 GMT Message-Id: <2slqbe$m54@louie.udel.edu> Hi all, I have just built the pine & pico package for the vms. Pico is running fine, but Pine refuses to run and gives a short message that the host and domain names not set. How can I set these variables? Any help would be appreciated! Ahmad ------------------------------------------------------------------ Ahmad J. Al-Nusif Kuwait University - ECE Dept. ahmed@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw nusif@cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 18:01:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25737; Fri, 3 Jun 94 18:01:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19494; Thu, 2 Jun 94 17:47:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19487; Thu, 2 Jun 94 17:47:27 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 17:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wdawe@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca (Wayne M. Dawe) Subject: Problems in printing messages Date: 2 Jun 1994 22:22:36 GMT Message-Id: <2slm3c$85p@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> I have problems printing messages to my printer using the "L" command. A one page message is no problem. A two or more page message always causes me a problem. When it's part way through the printing, the text starts to come garbled and then the computer freezes up. I then have to reboot my system. Please E-mail any suggestions that you may have. Wayne ****************************** Wayne M. Dawe * e-mail : wdawe@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca Anthony Paddon Elementary * phone : 709-467-2785 fax : 467-4357 Musgravetown, NF * home : 709-467-2250 A0C 1Z0 *************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 19:26:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27601; Fri, 3 Jun 94 19:26:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20974; Thu, 2 Jun 94 19:15:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20966; Thu, 2 Jun 94 19:15:04 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 19:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pls@crl.com (Paul Schauble) Subject: Re: IMAP for Windows Date: 2 Jun 1994 18:15:22 -0700 Message-Id: <2sm07a$oas@crl.crl.com> References: <1994Jun1.234610.7721@ucbeh> <1994Jun2.072021.65048@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> What is IMAP, please? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 19:54:16 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28286; Fri, 3 Jun 94 19:54:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04088; Thu, 2 Jun 94 19:42:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04082; Thu, 2 Jun 94 19:42:39 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28159; Fri, 3 Jun 94 19:46:43 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22631; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:40:16 -0700 Received: from pfm.pfm-mainz.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17819; Thu, 2 Jun 94 16:36:06 -0700 Received: by pfm.PFM-Mainz.de (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0q9MIr-0003uvC; Fri, 3 Jun 94 01:36 MESZ Message-Id: From: root@pfm.PFM-Mainz.de (Bernd Hennig pfm) Subject: Help with SCO To: pine@cac.washington.edu Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 01:36:00 +0100 (MESZ) Reply-To: info@PFM-Mainz.DE X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 422 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 19:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Hi, help - I need to compile pine on a SCO SYS V Rel. 3.2.v4.2 (ODT 3.0), there is a makefile.sco for your editor, but not for pine itself - can you help me a little bit with this ? -- PFM News & Mail Mainz | Xlink POP Mainz | Phone: +49.171.3310862 | Eibenweg 4 | D-55128 Mainz | Fax: +49.6131.366894 | info@pfm.PFM-Mainz.DE | http://www.PFM-Mainz.DE/ | we are here to serve | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 20:01:07 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28440; Fri, 3 Jun 94 20:01:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21500; Thu, 2 Jun 94 19:50:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21494; Thu, 2 Jun 94 19:50:03 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 19:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ceslab02!calfeld@beaver.cs.washington.edu (John Dallon) Subject: Re: Number of lines on the terminal screen Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 01:52:11 GMT Message-Id: <1994Jun3.015211.23494@math.utah.edu> References: Glen Wooten (jaguar1@netcom.com) wrote: : @psg.com wrote: : : How does PINE determine the number of lines to use on a terminal screen? : : I have a user using NCSA Telnet, which allows you to set more lines on : : the screen than the basic 24. He'd like to use 33 - is this doable?? I use a 103x38 screen at home to call up via a modem, in my .login file I check to see if i'm calling from a modem and if I am I use the command: stty cols 103 rows 38 I'm using gnu stty in this case, I think the normal equiv is stty co# 103 row# 38 -- -Chris (calfeld@math.utah.edu calfeld@east.east-slc.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 20:06:07 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28545; Fri, 3 Jun 94 20:06:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21622; Thu, 2 Jun 94 19:56:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21616; Thu, 2 Jun 94 19:56:20 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 19:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccooper@halcyon.halcyon.com (Charles W. Cooper II) Subject: Re: Official ftp site for pine please. Date: 3 Jun 1994 02:22:21 GMT Message-Id: <2sm44t$1ih@nwfocus.wa.com> References: <1994Jun2.183028@esiee.fr> FTP.CAC.WASHINGTON.EDU Frank Bonnet (bonnetf@esiee.fr) wrote: : Could somebody send me the official ftp site to get : the PINE package ? : Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 20:12:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28803; Fri, 3 Jun 94 20:12:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04379; Thu, 2 Jun 94 20:02:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04373; Thu, 2 Jun 94 20:01:58 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28541; Fri, 3 Jun 94 20:05:58 -0700 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 20:01:52 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller Reply-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu To: "Jeffrey A. Stern" Cc: The Pine Team , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE: Suggestions and Questions In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Jun 1994, Jeffrey A. Stern wrote: > Hi. I could not find easily where to send suggestions to, so I just > replied to one of the messages in Setup/Options/Update.. hope this is > okay.. > This address is OK, but questions and suggestions of general interest should probably go to pine-info@cac.washington.edu or the comp.mail.pine newsgroup (they are bidirectionally gatewayed together). > (FYI: In my case, I use UNIX pine on an Internet-connected Linux box. I > often modem in from home to my school's modem pool, thus reaching a > terminal server, then telnetting from there to my Linux box, where pine > resides..) > > I love pine and have a few questions and suggestions. > > 1) Maybe an easy way to email back suggestions or bugs (as I'm doing now), > as a menu choice somewhere from within pine? > This will be in pine 3.90. > 2) An easy way to get to the end or beginning of an entire a) document or > b) index of messages. For instance, in emacs, it's ESC-< and ESC->. > This would be nice, with both reading and writing long messages (esp. > using a modem), and with getting back up to INBOX from the index of folders. > This will be in pine 3.90. > 3) *Maybe* change the function of the alphabetic keys during a listing of > folders, so that pressing 'j' for instance instantly pops me down to the > first folder whose name begins with j, like 'jin', and typing j again > gets me to the next one, like 'john', etc. This would be wonderful. > > 4) A way to re-sort folders by date of arrival/departure, etc. > This will be in pine 3.90. > 5) A way to not just have all sent-mail go into the same folder, but to > have the option of having *outgoing* mail put in certain folders by either > a) subject or b) name. [Where a) takes priority over b) when there's a > conflict]. I know, I can always cc myself and then save the > *incoming* carbon copy of my *outgoing* mailto the appropriate folder, but I > don't always remember to do this, and since pine doesn't react right away > to received mail, i have to get out of pine and get back in just to get > the Cc:'s right away. In sum: it's a pain doing it that way. > > a) In the first case I am talking to a bunch of people about a certain > *subject*, say, nsf funding of a certain project. I don't want this stuff > to be split up into separate folders with my things going out in sent-mail > and I have to search for what I said, and only their stuff in the, say, > 'nsf' folder. Instead, i'd like to be able to have a way, either in the > "Subject:" line, or better yet, have an "X-Outgoing-Folder:" line or > something, in the header of composition, which I can fill in, so it > automatically gets filed there upon transmission. > The Fcc: header already provides this, doesn't it? > > b) In the second case, i am talking to only one person, say 'tom', and we > talk about lots of things, but since we are such good friends and i know > this conversation will go on indefinitely, I just want to put all our > things, not only incoming from him, but outgoing from me, in one folder. > One way to implement this would be to use the same name for outgoing mail, > as the alias i use in .addressbook when I compose, or, in the case of > replying, at least the alias which corresponds to the address in > .addressbook. > This will be in pine 3.90. > c) A third option would be easiest for you guys to implement, but it would > be less convenient for the user. This would be to simply prompt the user > for the box to put outgoing mail in *at the time*. That is, I compose a > letter, then I type ^X, it says 'Send message? [y]' I type 'y', it *then* > says, 'Outgoing mail folder? [sent-mail]' and I either press return for > default of sent-mail or type in another one. > > d) Some combination of c) with a) and b) would be the best, where it still > prompts you for outgoing mailbox when you send, but not just with > sent-mail. If it can find either by "X-Outgoing-Folder" or by > .addressbook alias, an alternative folder to store it in, it will put that > within the square brackets. Maybe be able to use the TAB key to move > through the various alternatives, replacing them visiblly within the [ ] > with each stroke of the TAB key. > > 6) Wrap-around in pico is not always dependable. Sometimes gives only a > partial wrap around, and i don't know why. That is, it will wrap only the > last word, say, but later, it figures out it would have rather wrapped two > or three. (This is, of course, without adding anything to the line > itself). If you'd like me to give a more detailed description of an > example of what i mean, I can send one. This problem occurs both on > auto-wrap-around (while typing) and on ^J. > Word wrap turns out to be a much more difficult problem than it initially seems, especially with the internal representation used by pico. The current behavior is clearly not very good, but we haven't found the time yet to do the major overhaul the word-wrap code needs. > 7) I would prefer less pauses in pine. It takes too long to get out or > to do something else sometimes, because you're waiting for notices to > appear at the bottom of the screen. I am aware I can get rid of the > prompt for leaving pine, but that takes away only one of the pauses.. > Quite a bit of work has been done to optimize message generation for 3.90, but I am sure there is still more that can be done... > 8) It would be nice to have pine notice *right away* when mail comes into > /usr/spool/mail/jstern. I don't know why, but pine always takes a few > minutes to notice this. In the case that both people are online using > pine (on same or different machines) this problem/feature obviates the > possibility of two people having an email "conversation", firing mail back > and forth from within pine. Such ability is present in other mail reading > systems, and should be on pine. I don't know, maybe I just have > something set up improperly. > Pine 3.89 checks for new mail every 2.5 minutes. It used to be 30 seconds, but our systems people complained about the system load of all of the new mail checks. When IMAP4 gets implemented there will be a less resource intensive way to check for new mail, so maybe we can lower the interval again... > Overall, I just have to say one thing: I am not saying these things > because I don't like pine. I am saying these things because > > I LOVE PINE!!!! GOOD JOB FOLKS!!!! > Thank you! > I think it could be argued that pine is largely responsible, from what I > have seen in my own school, for making UNIX user-friendly to many people. > I just set them up with pine, and months later, they're telling me about > all this other software they're now running on UNIX, heheh.. > > *Yours*, > Jeff Stern > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 21:09:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29881; Fri, 3 Jun 94 21:09:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22634; Thu, 2 Jun 94 20:57:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22628; Thu, 2 Jun 94 20:57:45 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 20:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 20:23:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 2 Jun 1994, Gary Perdue wrote: > I agree with Robert that another solution is needed. I would vote > for option c (Leave as is, but create a non-ported mailing list). Even in > the early stages the flame wars are already starting and the spams and > other garbage posts are sure to follow. > I suggest following basically the same procedure as for creating a list. i.e. someone post a RFD with a proposed charter, followed by a voting process. Don't forget to find someone to setup/manage/moderate? the new list... > Another suggestion for people using the newsgroup would be to > maintain a FAQ. It is alot easier to tell someone to read item x in the > FAQ than to use the bandwidth to explain to a 100 or so people how to > place their signature in an email. If the good folks at Pine would like > the help I will volunteer to coordinate the FAQ. > We have an FAQ mostly written , but many of the answers are 3.90-specific, so we would like to hold off releasing it until the pine 3.90 release. Outside assistance is a possibility, send us mail at pine@cac.washington.edu to discuss it further... > --- > > ____ _________________________________________ > / ___| __ _ _ __ _ _ | Gary L. Perdue unix technical lead | > | | _ / _` | '__| | | | | 652nd CCSG/SCCB McClellan AFB, Ca 95652 | > | |_| | (_| | | | |_| | | Phone (916)643-4666 FAX (916)643-1526 | > \____|\__,_|_| \__, | | email perdue@clyde.mcclellan.af.mil | > |___/ |_________________________________________| > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > "I believe OS/2 is destined to be the most important operating > system, and possibly program, of all time" - Bill Gates, Nov, 1987. > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > On Wed, 1 Jun 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote: > > > Some possible solutions: > > > > A) remove porting > > B) Make porting one way, from list to group, but NOT from group to list > > C) Leave as is, but create a non-ported mailing list called pine-guru, > > pine-admin, pine-tech, or some such for people that deal with > > suggestions for the future, system-based installation concerns, and > > the like to talk on, and not deal with a huge number of FAQs that > > will get asked every 48 hours or so (and note that making an FAQ > > document won't help at all). > > D) Digestify pine-info. Perhaps as a seperate mailing list called > > pine-info-digest or something. Same information, but in chunks > > instead of individually. I actually prefer individually, but > > others are different. > > E) Everyone switches to elm (well, ok, that's not a good idea :-) > > > > My vote, personally, is to create the seperate list for technical and > > development discussions (basically what the old list was) and to set up a > > digested distribution as well. If the Lords of Pine aren't sure how to > > do the digesting, I'd suggest contacting the folx at queernet.org, as > > they have accomplished this using majordomo (perhaps majordomo can > > already inherently do it, I'm not sure). > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 05:38:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11466; Sat, 4 Jun 94 05:38:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00104; Fri, 3 Jun 94 05:16:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29999; Fri, 3 Jun 94 05:16:34 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 05:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (Ed Greshko) Subject: Re: IMAP for Windows Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 11:55:55 GMT Message-Id: References: <1994Jun1.234610.7721@ucbeh> <1994Jun2.072021.65048@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> <2sm07a$oas@crl.crl.com> Paul Schauble (pls@crl.com) wrote: : What is IMAP, please? It stands for: Interactive Mail Access Protocol It is a protocol that a UA might use to access a users "inbox" on a Unix machine. There is an RFC concerning it....but I don't recall the number at the moment. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 06:06:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12029; Sat, 4 Jun 94 06:06:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13935; Fri, 3 Jun 94 05:46:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from PINYON.LIBRE.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13929; Fri, 3 Jun 94 05:46:37 -0700 Received: from localhost (dunigan@localhost) by pinyon.libre.com (8.6.4/8.6.4) id FAA05095; Fri, 3 Jun 1994 05:40:42 -0700 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 05:39:10 -0700 (MST) From: Mike Dunigan of Sonic Air Subject: Re: Pine help on a Motorola? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Mike Dunigan of Sonic Air In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Do you know of anyone who may have a copy of pine ported over to a Motorola Delta 8640 running sys V R3.2? Pico seems to compile fine using the sv4 port, but I can't get pine to do the same. I appreciate any help you may be able to offer. Thanks. -- Mike Dunigan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 06:09:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12095; Sat, 4 Jun 94 06:09:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00588; Fri, 3 Jun 94 05:47:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00582; Fri, 3 Jun 94 05:47:46 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22449; Fri, 3 Jun 94 05:47:38 -0700 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 05:47:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP for Windows In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ed and Paul, The name (meaning of the initials) was actually changed at an IETF working group mtg last year... It's now "Internet Message Access Protocol" to better illustrate that it isn't limited to mail, and it isn't just for interactive access. IMAP2 is described in RFC-1176. IMAP4 is still in draft form. It's available from ftp.cac.washington.edu in the file /mail/latest-imap-draft A new one is expected any day now. Think of IMAP as a way of manipulating a remote mailbox as if it was local. It allows you to get at your mail from multiple computers. The mail server need not be Unix, but most are. (There is also an IMAP server for VMS.) -teg On Fri, 3 Jun 1994, Ed Greshko wrote: > Paul Schauble (pls@crl.com) wrote: > : What is IMAP, please? > > It stands for: > > Interactive > Mail > Access > Protocol > > It is a protocol that a UA might use to access a users "inbox" on > a Unix machine. There is an RFC concerning it....but I don't recall the > number at the moment. > > Ed > > -- > Edward M. Greshko Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 07:11:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13210; Sat, 4 Jun 94 07:11:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01514; Fri, 3 Jun 94 06:49:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from PINYON.LIBRE.COM by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01508; Fri, 3 Jun 94 06:49:42 -0700 Received: from localhost (dunigan@localhost) by pinyon.libre.com (8.6.4/8.6.4) id GAA05672; Fri, 3 Jun 1994 06:43:47 -0700 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 06:41:50 -0700 (MST) From: Mike Dunigan of Sonic Air Subject: Fax Gateway??? To: pinehelp Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can anyone suggest a good fax gateway that would work with pine/unix mail. Our company uses VSIFAX to send faxes out, but would like to be able to use the pine mail interface to pipe to it. Please e-mail any suggestions. Thanks in advance. -- Mike Dunigan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 07:14:35 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13313; Sat, 4 Jun 94 07:14:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15075; Fri, 3 Jun 94 06:57:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15069; Fri, 3 Jun 94 06:57:04 -0700 Received: from vodka.wlo.dec.com by inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com (5.65/27May94) id AA28136; Fri, 3 Jun 94 06:52:34 -0700 Received: by vodka.wlo.dec.com (5.61/1.34) id AA14920; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:51:17 +0100 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 14:51:16 +0000 (BST) From: Lager Lout on the Info Highway Subject: Re: Pine help on a Motorola? (fwd) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Do you know of anyone who may have a copy of pine ported over to a >Motorola Delta 8640 running sys V R3.2? Pico seems to compile fine using >the sv4 port, but I can't get pine to do the same. I appreciate any help >you may be able to offer. Thanks. I attempted this some time ago, but was unable to get the c-client to compile, and it seemed that considerable effort was required to get around this. I gave up until the BOS was upgraded to SVR4.0, after which Pine compiled without too much fuss. Cheers, Chris. Chris Hedley email: cbh@vodka.wlo.dec.com Digital Equipment Corporation ltd phone: +44 707 374325 Welwyn, Hertfordshire, England fax: +44 707 374302 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 09:46:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19251; Fri, 3 Jun 94 09:46:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04868; Fri, 3 Jun 94 09:28:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04861; Fri, 3 Jun 94 09:28:08 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 08:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: imhw400@indyvax.iupui.edu (Mark H. Wood) Subject: Re: IMAP for Windows Message-Id: <1994Jun3.100113.5904@ivax> Date: 3 Jun 94 10:01:13 -0500 References: <1994Jun1.234610.7721@ucbeh> <1994Jun2.072021.65048@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> <2sm07a$oas@crl.crl.com> In article , egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (Ed Greshko) writes: > Paul Schauble (pls@crl.com) wrote: > : What is IMAP, please? > > It stands for: > > Interactive > Mail > Access > Protocol > > It is a protocol that a UA might use to access a users "inbox" on > a Unix machine. Or any other kind of machine. This OpenVMS VAX system, for example. Pine likes it just fine. Sorry, but I get ticked off when I see someone use "Unix machine" as a synonym for "computer". IMAP2 is specified in RFC 1176. -- Mark H. Wood, Lead Systems Programmer +1 317 274 0749 [@disclaimer@] Internet: MWOOD@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU BITNET: MWOOD@INDYVAX "It's *better* than good -- it's CHEAP!" - Cosmo Spacely From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 10:20:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20717; Fri, 3 Jun 94 10:20:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05751; Fri, 3 Jun 94 10:07:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05745; Fri, 3 Jun 94 10:07:12 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 09:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mark@vsfl.demon.co.uk (Mark Statham) Subject: Problems with understanding from field Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 15:47:16 +0000 Message-Id: <770658436snz@vsfl.demon.co.uk> When I mail some people I get bounced messages returned to me saying that the from field was not recognized and was not syntacitally correct, has anyone else had these problems, if so does anyone know of any work arounds? mark =============================================================================== Mark Statham mark@vsfl.demon.co.uk Underpaid/Overworked Placement Student "You've done what with my core!!" National & Provincial Building Society * XFACE * PGP * AVAILABLE From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 11:26:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23069; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:26:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07288; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:10:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07280; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:10:03 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lgentes@tx03.iac.honeywell.com (Lockley Gentes) Subject: Re: Latest Version, what/where Date: 02 Jun 1994 18:59:09 GMT Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: David L Miller's message of Thu, 2 Jun 1994 10:38:52 -0700 (PDT) >>>>> "David" == David L Miller writes: David> Version: 3.89 David> Site: ftp.cac.washington.edu David> Source: mail/pine.tar.Z David> PC binaries: mail/pcpine/*.zip David> Unix binaries: mail/unix-bin/* David> IMAP source: mail/imap.tar.Z (experimental) David> |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 David> |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) David> University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 David> 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA When is Version 3.90 due to be released???? -- +--------------------+ | /\ | | _|\ | | /|_ | Lockley Gentes | \ V V / | Honeywell IAC, Phoenix, AZ, USA | >________< | lgentes@eng.iac.honeywell.com | || | +--------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 11:53:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24540; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:53:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08101; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:40:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08095; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:40:04 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ft@maxwell.ccs.att.com (Frederick True) Subject: Re: PINE: Suggestions and Questions Message-Id: References: Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 18:03:28 GMT Another suggestion that I did not see in Jeff Stern's initial message is having incoming messages saved to predefined group-based folders; in other words, allow the user to define groups of addresses that should be saved to a single folder. I currently use procmail to intelligently filter my mail into a bunch of inboxes, which are defined in my .pinerc. After reading the messages in pine, however, the best I can do is save by name, which ends up creating many more folders than I'd like. I end up running a weekly script that combs through all my by-name folders and combines user groups into subject based folders. It would be handy if I could define a group of addresses in my .pinerc and map them all to a single save folder, so that when I press "s" in a message from one of the defined addresses, the default save folder is as I have defined it (ie: "co-workers", "personal", "ieee-discussion", etc). Are there any plans to implement such a feature? I love Pine as it is, but this would make things a lot easier for me! >> I LOVE PINE!!!! GOOD JOB FOLKS!!!! Agreed! Regards, Fred True -- Fred True "My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings: AT&T Global Systems Technology Group Look on my works, ye Mighty, ft@maxwell.att.com and despair!" ftrue@attmail.com -P. B. Shelley From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 12:06:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25362; Fri, 3 Jun 94 12:06:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08442; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:53:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08436; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:53:12 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: abbe@ccnet.com (Mitch Chen) Subject: return receipt in pine? Date: 2 Jun 1994 20:55:30 -0700 Message-Id: <2sm9ji$icv@ccnet.ccnet.com> Is there anyway I can make a request a return-receipt in pine? So I can make sure my friend got my mail. I know I can do it in ELM, but i like pine better, i think it must have someway to do it in pine. Please anyone know it, please Email me, thank you. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 12:23:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26213; Fri, 3 Jun 94 12:23:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08911; Fri, 3 Jun 94 12:10:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08905; Fri, 3 Jun 94 12:10:16 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 12:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: larryb@bga.com (Larry Buickel) Subject: Adding address book entries ... Date: 3 Jun 1994 18:30:43 GMT Message-Id: <2snssj$7i7@giga.bga.com> I really like the address book feature of pine. I think it really differentiates itself from many other mailers with this feature. When I receive a note, is there any automated way to add the reply address to my address book - either while reading a message or from the reply composition screen? Or is the only way to go to the address book menu and add it? Thanks ... -- *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Larry L. Buickel | I'm a hopeless chauvinist! Every time I begin to larryb@bga.com | explore my feminine side, I always stop and | cop a feel ... *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= Will write DCE apps for food =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 13:44:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03504; Fri, 3 Jun 94 13:44:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10891; Fri, 3 Jun 94 13:30:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from wolfe.wimsey.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10885; Fri, 3 Jun 94 13:30:25 -0700 Received: by wolfe.wimsey.com (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0q9fsk-0000DHC; Fri, 3 Jun 94 13:30 PDT Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.00/200.1.1.4) id AA25028; Fri, 3 Jun 1994 13:18:20 -0700 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 13:18:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: Re: Adding address book entries ... To: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: <2snssj$7i7@giga.bga.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 3 Jun 1994, Larry Buickel wrote: > When I receive a note, is there any automated way to add the reply > address to my address book - either while reading a message or > from the reply composition screen? Or is the only way to go to > the address book menu and add it? Thanks ... Yup..have a look at the "O"ther commands while you are in message reading mode. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl3.wimsey.com | |System Administration, hampson@wimsey.com | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | | | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 14:46:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05876; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:46:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26915; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:33:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26907; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:33:36 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05405; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:33:33 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04906; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:19:31 -0700 Received: from mail.crl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26568; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:19:27 -0700 Received: from crl.crl.com (crl.com) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA10737 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 3 Jun 1994 14:17:32 -0700 Received: by crl.crl.com id AA28895 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu); Fri, 3 Jun 1994 14:17:31 -0700 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 14:00:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "G.M. Wayne" Reply-To: "G.M. Wayne" Subject: Not a bug - A question To: pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 14:33:29 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: I am the Systems Administrater where I work ,and I am trying to install pine and pico at our site, and I have the following problems and questions: We use AIX 3.1. When I try to compile pine for AIX (a32), I get multiple errors and no bin files were created. I eventually got pico to compile when I compiled it for bsd, but this did not work for pine. How can I compile for AIX 3.1? It does not look likely that we will be upgrading to 3.2 anytime soon, although that is planned for 'sometime down the road' (I don't control these decisions!), and I would like to get this running as soon as possible, as one of my projects is to get an email system running (at the lowest possible cost, of course). We use Televideo 950 and 955 terminals and terminal emulation on PCs. Pico does not seem to recognize the TVI control keys and reverse video codes. I can set my term type to VT100, and change my emulation mode to VT100 on my PC, and that works fine, but I have to change back and forth, as all of our in-house software is set to work with TVI terminals. Most users here have only TVI terminals, and so that is not an option for them, anyway. Is there a TVI configuration option for pico? I have not been able to find any mention of this in the documentation, just for pine (which won't compile, so if it shares config files with pine, is there a way around it?) Any help would be greatly appreciated. The email address that this was sent from is my personal address, and is the best one to respond to. (I haven't got our in-house email system up & running yet!) Thanks! GM Wayne gmwayne@crl.com (415) 257-1191 (9am-5:30pm, Pacific Time) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 15:15:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06883; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:15:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13034; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:02:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13027; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:02:47 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: r02kar@einstein.desy.de (Karsten Kuenne) Subject: Re: _tzname undfined on sgi Date: 03 Jun 1994 19:59:24 GMT Message-Id: References: <2sd6p4$17c@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at> In-Reply-To: tkircht@myhost.subdomain.domain's message of 30 May 1994 17:12:04 GMT >>>>> "Thomas" == writes: Thomas> I've been trying to build pine on a SGI Challenge running Thomas> Irix 5.1.1, but 'build sgi' tells me: make args are "CC=cc" Thomas> Making c-client library and mtest cc -O -cckr -Wf,-XNh2000 Thomas> -Dconst= -DRSH=\"rsh\" -DRSHPATH=\"/usr/bsd/rsc cfe: Error: Thomas> os_sgi.c, line 90: '_tzname' undefined; reoccurrences will Thomas> not be r. _tzname[t->tm_isdst ? 1 : 0]); ---^ *** Error code Thomas> 1 (bu21) Thomas> and thus don't build pine (It does build pico, but nothing Thomas> else) Thomas> Any ideas out there? I believe I had the same problem here. The solution is simple, you only need to define _tzname with the following line: extern char *_tzname[2]; You should also change the gettimeofday in the same code area to the following if it isn't already (I can't remember if I changed it or if it was already there): BSDgettimeofday (&tv,&tz); /* get time and timezone poop */ Karsten. -- //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Karsten Kuenne, DESY (-R2-), Notkestr. 85, 22607 Hamburg, Germany phone: +49-40-8998-3315 fax: +49-40-8998-4429 e-mail: , From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 15:31:11 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07474; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:31:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27942; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:18:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27936; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:18:08 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07025; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:18:04 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05958; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:48:07 -0700 Received: from donal.dorsai.org by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27273; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:47:57 -0700 Received: by donal.dorsai.org (4.1/29Jan93-Dorsai Embassy) id AA09812; Fri, 3 Jun 94 17:45:19 EDT Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 17:45:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ashley M. Kirchner (Inferno Support 1)" Subject: To: The Pine Team Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 15:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Subject: Resent mail.... Resent-Message-Id: I noticed Pine has a way of sorting mail coming from specific users (correct me if I'm wrong tho...), but now this: I receive mail from different people (From: field), but same Subject: field. Is there a way I can let Pine sort my arrived mail into a separate mail folder, other than INBOX, by looking at it's Subject: line? SuAsh (I guess I subscribe to too many mailing lists, tee hee) +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Address: /\ Date : 6/2 6/3 | | Suraya & Ashley Kirchner /**\ High : 78 74 | | 2985 East Aurora Avenue, Apt. N-217 /****\/\ Low : 64 55 | | Boulder, Colorado 80303-7719 / * \ \ Humid: 33% 56% | | I-Net address: cheleh@ucsu.colorado.edu _/ \_\_ Rem.: SUNNY/SHOWERS | | | | Quote: "There are three types of friends; those like food, without | | which you can't live; those like medicine, which you need | | occasionally; and those like an illness, which you never want." | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 15:48:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08018; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:48:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13754; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:37:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13748; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:37:12 -0700 Received: from ester.dsv.su.se by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05867; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:37:10 -0700 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SUNET/ADMD=_/C=SE/; Relayed; 04 Jun 94 00:33:40+0200 Date: 04 Jun 94 00:33:40+0200 From: "Ashley M. Kirchner (Inferno Support 1)" Message-Id: <716669*@su-kom.dsv.su.se> To: The Pine Team , Pine Mailing List , "Pine mailer discussions group (pine-infoEcac.washington.edu)" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 15:53:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08194; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:53:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13899; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:42:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13893; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:42:55 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: larryb@bga.com (Larry Buickel) Subject: Re: Adding address book entries ... Date: 3 Jun 1994 22:19:45 GMT Message-Id: <2soaa1$fmu@giga.bga.com> References: <2snssj$7i7@giga.bga.com> Larry Buickel (larryb@bga.com) wrote: Well Duh! Danial Ford gently pointed out to me that it is the "T" command and is on the help screens. I guess I just missed it. Later ... Larry B From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 16:45:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10580; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:45:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14948; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:32:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14942; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:32:42 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: larryb@bga.com (Larry Buickel) Subject: Does pine use the sum command? Date: 3 Jun 1994 22:47:41 GMT Message-Id: <2sobud$ggv@giga.bga.com> We use pine 3.89 on our Internet system. I don't know what flavor of unix it runs (something shareware I think), but when I tried to uuencode a file via pine, I got a failure because pine couldn't find the "sum" command. After speaking to the sysadmin, he said that "sum" command had been superseded by the "cksum" command on the newer versions of (BSD??) our unix. Anyway, I just wanted to toss that out in case it can be dealt with in a later pine release. I think I do have a workaround. *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Larry L. Buickel | I'm a hopeless chauvinist! Every time I begin to larryb@bga.com | explore my feminine side, I always stop and | cop a feel ... *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= Will write DCE apps for food =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 16:54:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10908; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:54:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15198; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:42:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15184; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:42:51 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cs2dw@herts.ac.uk (Crilly) Subject: Re: PINE: Suggestions and Questions Date: 3 Jun 1994 21:02:27 +0100 Message-Id: <2so28j$1m4@altair.herts.ac.uk> References: I don't know if this has been mentioned but... I would like to be able to use pine with the left and right arrow keys as well as the up and down keys. For example, when I'm reading a message and I want to go back to the index level, it feels more intuitive to press LEFT than 'I'. In the same way, to read a message from index level I'd prefer to move up and down with the arrows to get to the message I'm interested in and press RIGHT to view it rather than ENTER. I belive this would be faster and easier to use. There would be less keystrokes to learn, especially if every level worked like this (eg the main menu). Liam. -- Liam Crilly L.Crilly@herts.ac.uk I'm over here! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 16:54:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10928; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:54:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15182; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:42:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15176; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:42:48 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cs2dw@herts.ac.uk (Crilly) Subject: Re: PINE: Suggestions and Questions Date: 3 Jun 1994 21:26:30 +0100 Message-Id: <2so3lm$2aa@altair.herts.ac.uk> References: I don't know if this has been mentioned but... I would like to be able to use pine with the left and right arrow keys as well as the up and down keys. For example, when I'm reading a message and I want to go back to the index level, it feels more intuitive to press LEFT than 'I'. In the same way, to read a message from index level I'd prefer to move up and down with the arrows to get to the message I'm interested in and press RIGHT to view it rather than ENTER. I belive this would be faster and easier to use. There would be less keystrokes to learn, especially if every level worked like this (eg the main menu). Liam. PS. my apologies if this has been sent twice -- Liam Crilly L.Crilly@herts.ac.uk I'm over here! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 17:05:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11887; Fri, 3 Jun 94 17:05:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15411; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:53:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15405; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:52:58 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: syb3@aber.ac.uk (Simon Bradley) Subject: Re: Adding address book entries ... Message-Id: <1994Jun3.210821.4337@aber.ac.uk> References: <2snssj$7i7@giga.bga.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 21:08:21 GMT In article <2snssj$7i7@giga.bga.com>, Larry Buickel wrote: >I really like the address book feature of pine. I think it really >differentiates itself from many other mailers with this feature. > >When I receive a note, is there any automated way to add the reply >address to my address book - either while reading a message or >from the reply composition screen? Or is the only way to go to >the address book menu and add it? Thanks ... Just hit 'T' -- 'Take Address'. You'll then be prompted for any modifications you might want to make to the full name and E-mail address (Pine giving defaults from the From: field of the message). --Simon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 18:13:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13789; Fri, 3 Jun 94 18:13:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16896; Fri, 3 Jun 94 18:00:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16890; Fri, 3 Jun 94 18:00:26 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 17:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: billwill@netcom.com (William Smithers) Subject: ADDRESS IN DISTRIBUTION LIST Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 21:51:15 GMT (1) The Pine documentation says that one may use the following format for an entry in the Address Book: John Doe But when I try to include such an entry in a Distribution List, I get a message like, "Spaces not permitted within quotes," or some such. May one include real names in a Distribution List entry? (2) When I send EMail to a Distribution List, is it necessary to strip off the top entry of the list and place it on the "To:" line? Or may one leave the "To:" line empty, and simply send the message with all the Distribution List entries included in either "cc:" or "Bcc:"? Thanks in advance for your help, -- Bill Smithers From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 18:36:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14221; Fri, 3 Jun 94 18:36:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17276; Fri, 3 Jun 94 18:21:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17270; Fri, 3 Jun 94 18:21:21 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06872; Fri, 3 Jun 94 18:20:00 -0700 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 18:20:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Crilly Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE: Suggestions and Questions In-Reply-To: <2so28j$1m4@altair.herts.ac.uk> Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Liam, We will investigate the feasibility of using L/R arrow keys when we implement hierarchy support later this year. (We need some new features coming with IMAP4 before we can do that, however.) -teg On 3 Jun 1994, Crilly wrote: > > I don't know if this has been mentioned but... > > I would like to be able to use pine with the left and right arrow > keys as well as the up and down keys. For example, when I'm reading > a message and I want to go back to the index level, it feels more > intuitive to press LEFT than 'I'. > > In the same way, to read a message from index level I'd prefer to > move up and down with the arrows to get to the message I'm interested > in and press RIGHT to view it rather than ENTER. > > I belive this would be faster and easier to use. There would be less > keystrokes to learn, especially if every level worked like this > (eg the main menu). > > > > Liam. > > -- > Liam Crilly > L.Crilly@herts.ac.uk > I'm over here! > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 19:04:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14856; Fri, 3 Jun 94 19:04:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17657; Fri, 3 Jun 94 18:50:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from watson.lib.muohio.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17651; Fri, 3 Jun 94 18:50:37 -0700 Received: by watson.lib.muohio.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA15573; Fri, 3 Jun 94 21:50:34 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 21:50:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Murray Subject: Re: Can TIN use PINE to send messages? To: Rob Rosengard Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2sjg4n$o25@news.bu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 2 Jun 1994, Rob Rosengard wrote: > I use TIN for NETNEWS. However, I don't have control > over saving the messages sent within TIN as well as > other features that PINE has. How can I get TIN to > talk with PINE? Please EMAIL me the answer if possible. When I want to forward or reply-via-mail to messages in TIN, I just send them to myself and use PINE to edit and send the mail message. In addition to being saved in 'sent-mail', I also get the power of the addressbook and other features. Peter -- Peter Murray, Library Systems Manager pmurray@watson.lib.muohio.edu King Library Technical Support pemurray@miavx1.bitnet Miami University, Oxford, Ohio W:513/529-2884 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 23:30:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19568; Fri, 3 Jun 94 23:30:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21237; Fri, 3 Jun 94 23:10:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21231; Fri, 3 Jun 94 23:10:15 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 23:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: glenn@socs.uts.EDU.AU (Glenn Rickersey) Subject: Re: return receipt in pine? Date: 4 Jun 1994 05:18:34 GMT Message-Id: <2sp2ra$3v1@woodstock.socs.uts.EDU.AU> References: <2sm9ji$icv@ccnet.ccnet.com> abbe@ccnet.com (Mitch Chen) writes: >Is there anyway I can make a request a return-receipt in pine? >So I can make sure my friend got my mail. I also know alot of other people that would be interested in this (sorry if it's been asked a billion times before). I also wouldn't mind a pine specific receipt acknowldgement (ie I don't care if only pine users will send auto receipt acknowledgement), but I can accept I might have to ad that one myself. thanks, glenn. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 00:16:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20345; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:16:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07268; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:04:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from carson-oms2.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07254; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:04:34 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by carson-oms2.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19771; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:04:29 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 00:04:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Dave King Cc: Pine Information Subject: Re: Pine 3.89/3.89 compatibility questions. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Jun 1994, Dave King wrote: > Could someone please advise me... > > 1. Are there any issues that will prevent a user switching between Pine > 3.89 and Pine 3.90? For example, .pinerc format, postponed message(s) > filename(s), etc. > > What are the implications (if any) of reverting to 3.89 after using 3.90? There is a 3.89 bug, but it isn't anything to get too worried about. If you use a 3.90 variable that is a list but wasn't a list before, and you have more than one item in that list, the items after the first will be deleted if you run 3.89 or before again. This same bug has existed in previous versions and would have nailed you if you switched between versions when we added a new list variable. Only difference here is that we've added more list variables than usual, so it is more likely to happen. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 00:29:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20531; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:29:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07427; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:15:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from carson-oms1.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07421; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:15:44 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by carson-oms1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29876; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:15:39 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 00:15:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Wedge Antilles Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: address book query In-Reply-To: <1994Jun2.200825.24752@bradford.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The address book format is simple: for a single alias TAB TAB
for example slh TAB Hubert, Steve TAB hubert@cac.washington.edu The full name field can be either Hubert, Steve or Steve Hubert, but it sorts better if you use Hubert, Steve. For a list the format is TAB TAB (addr1, addr2, addr3, addr4, addr5) (Spaces at the beginning of a line are continuation lines, but only for lists. That is, you can't break anywhere else. This is relaxed in 3.90 and there will be a couple new fields after the address field.) For example, alist TAB This is the A List TAB (slh, joe@cac.washington.edu, someotherlist, someothernickname, Fred Flintstone ) Sorry, but no help from me on how to get your list into this format. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Thu, 2 Jun 1994, Wedge Antilles wrote: > > A friend has mailed me with a list of addresses and I want to put them in my address > book without having to type them in....can you help me??? > I am working on a Sun Sparc with Unix... > > Dom > -- > /\_/\ > d.j.martinez@bradford.ac.uk (o o) ' out on the peace ' > ------------------------------oOO--(=)--OOo----------------------------- > buryfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfc > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 00:43:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20822; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:43:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22290; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:31:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from carson-oms1.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22284; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:31:21 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by carson-oms1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00142; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:27:33 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 00:27:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: William Smithers Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ADDRESS IN DISTRIBUTION LIST In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 3 Jun 1994, William Smithers wrote: > (1) The Pine documentation says that one may use the following format > for an entry in the Address Book: > > John Doe > > But when I try to include such an entry in a Distribution List, I get a > message like, "Spaces not permitted within quotes," or some such. > > May one include real names in a Distribution List entry? You can't get them in there using Pine, but if you edit your addressbook by hand and put them in it will work. Make sure you don't put any tabs in there. 3.90 will allow you to add them instead of complaining about the spaces. > (2) When I send EMail to a Distribution List, is it necessary to strip > off the top entry of the list and place it on the "To:" line? Or may one > leave the "To:" line empty, and simply send the message with all the > Distribution List entries included in either "cc:" or "Bcc:"? Pine doesn't require you to have a To. As long as your message is going somewhere it's happy. There are no doubt some mailers that won't like it if you don't have any To's or cc's at all. > Thanks in advance for your help, > > -- Bill Smithers Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 00:53:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21063; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:53:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22398; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:40:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22392; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:40:18 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: syb3@aber.ac.uk (Simon Bradley) Subject: Re: avoid term= prompt Message-Id: <1994Jun1.121255.9304@aber.ac.uk> References: <2sh03k$aug@rigel.infinet.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:12:55 GMT >Just add a term=" to your .login file. Eg. term="vt220" Hmmm... I'm not sure about that. How about: setenv TERM vt100 or whatever. --Simon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 02:51:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23522; Sat, 4 Jun 94 02:51:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24102; Sat, 4 Jun 94 02:41:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24096; Sat, 4 Jun 94 02:41:02 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 02:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access2.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Re: Warning: File Attachments in Pine are encrypted Date: 4 Jun 1994 09:11:22 GMT Message-Id: <2spgfq$1nc@news1.digex.net> References: <2s9ggo$6mc@news1.digex.net> <2sbc2o$jl4@news1.digex.net> <1994May31.184731.1001@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Michael Storz (a2824as@cd1.lrz-muenchen.de) wrote: : In addition using BASE64 as encoding will increase the size of files at about : 30 % . Darn, I wish I'd thought of that! It's a shame when someone else makes an even stronger argument in your favor than you do! -- Reports on Security Problems: To Subscribe write PROBLEMS-REQUEST@TDR.COM Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net Voted "Largest Polluter of the (IETF) list" by Randy Bush Voted "Largest Polluter of digex.general" by Mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 02:51:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23530; Sat, 4 Jun 94 02:51:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24110; Sat, 4 Jun 94 02:41:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24104; Sat, 4 Jun 94 02:41:05 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 02:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access2.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Re: Warning: File Attachments in Pine are encrypted Date: 4 Jun 1994 09:14:34 GMT Message-Id: <2spglq$1nc@news1.digex.net> References: <2s9ggo$6mc@news1.digex.net> <1994Jun1.213533.6210@math.utah.edu> Chris Alfeld (calfeld@eratosth) wrote: : Paul Robinson (tdarcos@access1.digex.net) wrote: : : This misfeature means if I mail a file to someone who can't support MIME I : : cannot use the attachment feature. It means I can not mail something using : : attachments unless I know *beyond a shadow of a doubt* that they have a : : MIME compliant mailer. Since this may not be true, it makes the : : attachment feature of the Pine Mailer effectively worthless. : It's a bad feature sure, but you aren't the only one who uses a MIME : compatiable mail reader. Everyone in comp.mail.pine uses pine and can : understand the attachments. There are also plenty of MIME compient mail : programs out there. Its would be nice if Pine didn't use base64 encoding when : it didn't need to, but it doesn't make it worthless. More places have non-mime mailers and will continue to use them until depreciated or longer, which means that for most cases a base64 encoding *is* essentially worthless since almost nobody can read it. Almost nobody *I* correspond with. -- Reports on Security Problems: To Subscribe write PROBLEMS-REQUEST@TDR.COM Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net Voted "Largest Polluter of the (IETF) list" by Randy Bush Voted "Largest Polluter of digex.general" by Mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 02:51:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23563; Sat, 4 Jun 94 02:51:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24088; Sat, 4 Jun 94 02:41:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24059; Sat, 4 Jun 94 02:40:59 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 02:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access2.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Re: Warning: File Attachments in Pine are encrypted Date: 4 Jun 1994 09:07:56 GMT Message-Id: <2spg9c$1nc@news1.digex.net> References: <2s9ggo$6mc@news1.digex.net> <2sbc2o$jl4@news1.digex.net> <2sbo3l$5a6@news.acns.nwu.edu> Jeff Bishop (jbishop@babel.ling.nwu.edu) wrote: : In article <2sbc2o$jl4@news1.digex.net>, : Paul Robinson wrote: : >Terry Gray wrote in : >as follows: : >> Paul, Welcome (I think :) to the Pine list/newsgroup, and : >> congratulations on having the first and longest flame since the : >> creation of the newsgroup! : Pointing out an obvious mistake in the program is hardly what I consider a : flame. MIME encryption should be an optional feature; to assume that every : receipient will have MIME-aware tools is a mistake, and Paul was right to : point that out. Hear, Hear! And contrary to the popular opinion of SOME people on this newsgroup, conversion of a file from 7-bit ascii to Base64 changes it to a format that is not directly readable. As far as I am concerned, that is encryption as surely as ROT-13 is. The text must be translated out of Base64 to be readable, therefore it is effectively encrypted. -- Reports on Security Problems: To Subscribe write PROBLEMS-REQUEST@TDR.COM Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net Voted "Largest Polluter of the (IETF) list" by Randy Bush Voted "Largest Polluter of digex.general" by Mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 03:30:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24452; Sat, 4 Jun 94 03:30:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24652; Sat, 4 Jun 94 03:21:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24629; Sat, 4 Jun 94 03:21:01 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 03:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mhsacks@mail.med.cornell.edu (Michael Sacks) Subject: retrieving sent-mail Date: 4 Jun 1994 10:10:44 GMT Message-Id: <2spjv4INNnen@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> A friend writes me that he accidentally deleted an E-mail from me. A copy is there in the sent-mail file. What is the easiest way to retrieve it into a new letter? Can it be done without calling up the file and editing out the other letters? Can sent-mail be set up as a directory so that each letter becomes a file instead of being appended to one file? thanks. Michael From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 07:51:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29087; Sat, 4 Jun 94 07:51:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28187; Sat, 4 Jun 94 07:41:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28181; Sat, 4 Jun 94 07:41:19 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 07:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: syb3@aber.ac.uk (Simon Bradley) Subject: Re: retrieving sent-mail Message-Id: <1994Jun4.142425.21055@aber.ac.uk> References: <2spjv4INNnen@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 14:24:25 GMT In article <2spjv4INNnen@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>, Michael Sacks wrote: > A friend writes me that he accidentally deleted an E-mail from me. >A copy is there in the sent-mail file. What is the easiest way to >retrieve it into a new letter? Can it be done without calling up the >file and editing out the other letters? Can sent-mail be set up as a >directory so that each letter becomes a file instead of being appended to >one file? Uh, how about just going to that mail in your sent-mail folder and 'F'orwarding it? :) --Simon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 09:59:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01106; Sat, 4 Jun 94 09:59:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29912; Sat, 4 Jun 94 09:54:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29906; Sat, 4 Jun 94 09:54:21 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 09:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maitre@gwis.circ.gwu.edu (Norbert Marrale) Subject: Re: Question regarding Pine (FAQ?) Date: 3 Jun 1994 00:10:37 -0400 Message-Id: <2smaft$nea@gwis.circ.gwu.edu> References: <2sliap$cqv@u.cc.utah.edu> In article <2sliap$cqv@u.cc.utah.edu>, Paul Campbell wrote: > >using Pine 3.07 > >I'd like to make the email I send to the group in a Digest form..that is, >only I can send to the whole group....only I get the feedback...get it? I'm using pine 3.05, what works for me is to put the nickname for the list in the Bcc field instead of the address field. This way, subscribers do not get to see the whole mailing list. >I'd also like to automate received files with a certain subject so that >they are placed in a certain folder..can this be done? I would like to do something similar. I keep folders sorted on people's names. I'd like to save their mail in their personal folder, and to automatically save my mail to them there. > >-- >Paul W. Campbell 801-320-7777 Support >Megahertz Corporation 801-320-8840 BBS >605 N 5600 W, M/S 2108 801-320-6020 Fax >Salt Lake City, UT 801-320-6220 Faxback Norbert R. Marrale The George Washington University maitre@gwis.circ.gwu.edu School of Educ. and Human Devel. nmarrale@cap.gwu.edu Department of Tourism Studies Voice: (202) 745-5852 Work: (202) 783-6161 Fax: (202) 783-6171 -- -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 10:19:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01532; Sat, 4 Jun 94 10:19:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00316; Sat, 4 Jun 94 10:14:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00310; Sat, 4 Jun 94 10:14:50 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 09:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bpn@remus.rutgers.edu (bpn) Subject: [HELP] Building Pine on SCO Message-Id: Date: 4 Jun 94 16:27:14 GMT I am trying to build Pine on SCO SYS V rel 3.2 v 4.2 . Follow is the errors that I got . Can somebody help me with these please. Binh Nguyen bpn@remus.rutgers.edu btest@planet.net (201)-691-4704 *********Error Messages********** mtest.c:51: netdb.h: No such file or directory make: *** [mtest.o] Error 1 mtest.c:51: netdb.h: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [mtest.o] Error 1 make: *** [C-CLIENT] Error 1 In file included from osdep.c:68: /usr/include/termios.h:64: warning: `struct termios' declared inside parameter list /usr/include/termios.h:64: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, /usr/include/termios.h:64: warning: which is probably not what you want. /usr/include/termios.h:65: warning: `struct termios' declared inside parameter list ar: creating libpico.a ld: cannot open -ltermcap: No such file or directory make: *** [pico] Error 1 In file included from headers.h:72, from addrbook.c:69: os.h:203: netdb.h: No such file or directory make: *** [addrbook.o] Error 1 size: bin/pine: No such file or directory size: bin/mtest: No such file or directory size: bin/imapd: No such file or directory size: bin/pico: No such file or directory From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 12:49:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03885; Sat, 4 Jun 94 12:49:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02288; Sat, 4 Jun 94 12:42:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02282; Sat, 4 Jun 94 12:42:12 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 11:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: marcelo@carpa.ciagri.usp.br (Marcelo Zacarias) Subject: Re: error message Date: 4 Jun 1994 13:50:50 GMT Message-Id: <2sq0rq$mt1@bee08.uspnet.usp.br> References: -sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. (highway@wam.umd.edu) wrote: : On Tue, 24 May 1994, John Pescador wrote: : > : > I got the following error message from pine: : > : I get: : Pine Panic: Received abort signal. : I'm on a AIX3.2 system. It happened to me when I was reading a message, pressed D to delete it and then Q to quit. When pine asked "Expunge..." I pressed an arrow key by mistake and got the above message. (Pine 3.89, SGI IRIX) -- -Marcelo Marcelo Zacarias - CIAGRI/USP marcelo@ciagri.usp.br From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 13:43:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04703; Sat, 4 Jun 94 13:43:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02981; Sat, 4 Jun 94 13:38:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02975; Sat, 4 Jun 94 13:38:43 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 12:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ricknie@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu (Rick Younie) Subject: Pine/Pico documentation needed Date: 4 Jun 1994 15:13:41 -0400 Message-Id: <2sqjp5$smc@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> Apologies if I've posted this to the group before. The last few days are a blur. I'm helping put together online docs for new users on the Vancouver Freenet. We're going to be opening to the public rsn and I'm in a bit of a panic. I'm pretty sure this is a FAQ, but between Tallahasee just having a hard drive crash and me not knowing my way around, I can't find it. Any pointers to Pico docs would be most appreciated. Rick -- ----/---- rick@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca / The sooner you start, the longer it rick@emma.panam.wimsey.com / will take. PGP key available / ----/---- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 14:26:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05376; Sat, 4 Jun 94 14:26:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03578; Sat, 4 Jun 94 14:22:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03572; Sat, 4 Jun 94 14:22:07 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 13:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thinhq@cs.washington.edu (Quanta) Subject: Help on finding source code for pine Message-Id: <1994Jun4.205025.11031@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 94 20:50:25 GMT Hi everbody, I am looking for the source code of pine. does anybody know where I can get it? thanks a lot in advance. Thinh. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 14:38:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05613; Sat, 4 Jun 94 14:38:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03767; Sat, 4 Jun 94 14:34:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03753; Sat, 4 Jun 94 14:34:11 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 14:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cs2dw@herts.ac.uk (Crilly) Subject: Re: PINE: Suggestions and Questions Date: 4 Jun 1994 21:46:48 +0100 Message-Id: <2sqp7o$nk5@altair.herts.ac.uk> References: <2so28j$1m4@altair.herts.ac.uk> Terry Gray wrote: >Liam, >We will investigate the feasibility of using L/R arrow keys when we >implement hierarchy support later this year. (We need some new features >coming with IMAP4 before we can do that, however.) I'll look forward to that release. Thanks, Liam. -- Liam Crilly L.Crilly@herts.ac.uk I'm over here! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 17:32:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08497; Sat, 4 Jun 94 17:32:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06178; Sat, 4 Jun 94 17:27:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from internal.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06172; Sat, 4 Jun 94 17:27:36 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA28291; Sun, 5 Jun 94 08:27:34 +0800 Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 08:27:33 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Help on finding source code for pine To: Quanta Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <1994Jun4.205025.11031@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 4 Jun 1994, Quanta wrote: > I am looking for the source code of pine. does anybody know where I can > get it? > > thanks a lot in advance. Hummmm.....based on your email address, it would seem you are in the generaly vicinity of where pine is written. Anyway, try using ftp.cac.washington.edu Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 18:58:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09662; Sat, 4 Jun 94 18:58:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07242; Sat, 4 Jun 94 18:54:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07228; Sat, 4 Jun 94 18:54:15 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 18:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yukes@nevada.edu (P. Yukes) Subject: Exporting messages from Pine Date: 5 Jun 1994 00:53:50 GMT Message-Id: <2sr7mu$3a9@post-office.nevada.edu> Lately I have been unable to successfully transfer messages from Pine to my own PC. I usually use to export a message to the root directory. I then attempt to download them to my PC. I have tried sz -a filename, and sz -b filename... Neither seems to work. The status screen shows the downloading begins but then gets stuck and is eventually timed out. Please tell me what I could do differently in order to succeed in downloading... Thanks -- Pirkko e-mail:yukes@nevada.edu -==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 20:33:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11124; Sat, 4 Jun 94 20:33:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08473; Sat, 4 Jun 94 20:28:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08467; Sat, 4 Jun 94 20:28:47 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 19:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tipcat@wam.umd.edu (Frank Young) Subject: Re: Exporting messages from Pine Date: 5 Jun 1994 02:43:25 GMT Message-Id: <2sre4d$4tv@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <2sr7mu$3a9@post-office.nevada.edu> In article <2sr7mu$3a9@post-office.nevada.edu>, P. Yukes wrote: >Lately I have been unable to successfully transfer messages from Pine to >my own PC. >I usually use to export a message to the root directory. I then >attempt to download them to my PC. I have tried sz -a filename, and >sz -b filename... Neither seems to work. The status screen shows the >downloading begins but then gets stuck and is eventually timed out. >Please tell me what I could do differently in order to succeed in >downloading... The following worked for me, I hope it works for you! If you are on a UNIX system, and you have accessed your mainframe remotely by dialling into a remote access connection with TELNET, try instead accessing your system with RLOGIN, instead of TELNET. At wam.umd.edu, this is the key to getting zmodem to work correctly over the telephone lines. -- Regards, Frank Young tipcat@wam.umd.edu 703-532-6284 6166 Leesburg Pike, Suite B-12, Falls Church, Virginia 22044-2343 "Videmus nunc per speculum in aenigmate... Nunc cognosco ex parte" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 21:56:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12605; Sat, 4 Jun 94 21:56:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09527; Sat, 4 Jun 94 21:52:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09521; Sat, 4 Jun 94 21:52:07 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 20:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dale@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca (Dale Fraser) Subject: Re: Exporting messages from Pine Date: 5 Jun 1994 03:26:55 GMT Message-Id: <2srglv$14d@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> References: <2sr7mu$3a9@post-office.nevada.edu> <2sre4d$4tv@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Frank Young (tipcat@wam.umd.edu) wrote: : If you are on a UNIX system, and you have accessed your mainframe : remotely by dialling into a remote access connection with TELNET, try : instead accessing your system with RLOGIN, instead of TELNET. At : wam.umd.edu, this is the key to getting zmodem to work correctly over the : telephone lines. This is due to the fact that the escape characters for telnet will conflict with the escape characters for the Z-modem protocol causing the file transfer to abort or crash. Switching to rlogin will remedy this problem since it has different escape characters. Dale -- Dale Fraser dale@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca STEM~Net, Training Assistant Voice: (709)737-8836 E-5036, Memorial University, St. John's Fax: (709)737-2179 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 10:32:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24921; Sun, 5 Jun 94 10:32:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19129; Sun, 5 Jun 94 10:24:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19123; Sun, 5 Jun 94 10:24:25 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 09:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stan@nmsua.nmsu.edu (Stan McCann) Subject: Pop3 support? Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 16:16:31 GMT Message-Id: Hi all, Is there any way to pop mail from another account using pine? If not now, are there any plans to implement pop3 support? I have a couple of users that dial into a Unix system but receive mail on our Novell server using Mercury. Mercury has a pop3 server and these users would like to be able to get their mail from the Novell server. Any ideas would be helpful. Stan McCann Network Administrator Alamogordo Branch Community College (NMSU) stan@nmsua.nmsu.edu (preferred) smccann@nmsu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 12:01:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26381; Sun, 5 Jun 94 12:01:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20334; Sun, 5 Jun 94 11:54:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20328; Sun, 5 Jun 94 11:54:40 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 11:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eratosth!calfeld@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Chris Alfeld) Subject: Re: Pine/Pico documentation needed Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 17:29:39 GMT Message-Id: <1994Jun5.172939.6228@math.utah.edu> References: <2sqjp5$smc@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> Rick Younie (ricknie@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu) wrote: : Apologies if I've posted this to the group before. The last few days are : a blur. : I'm helping put together online docs for new users on the Vancouver : Freenet. We're going to be opening to the public rsn and I'm in a bit of : a panic. I'm pretty sure this is a FAQ, but between Tallahasee just : having a hard drive crash and me not knowing my way around, I can't find it. : Any pointers to Pico docs would be most appreciated. I write guides to Unix programs and though I don't have one for pico I do have two for pine which have something of pico in them. -- -Chris (calfeld@math.utah.edu calfeld@east.east-slc.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 12:39:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27031; Sun, 5 Jun 94 12:39:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20846; Sun, 5 Jun 94 12:32:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20840; Sun, 5 Jun 94 12:32:39 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 11:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rebel@engin.umich.edu (Johnny Yuma) Subject: PGP/Pine Date: 5 Jun 1994 18:41:41 GMT Message-Id: <2st695INNhop@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> A friend of mine sent this to me, and I thought perhaps someone else might get some use out of it. -- Here ya go.. a method to pgp outgoing mail with pine. Change your .pinerc so the line that looks like: # Editor to use in place of Pine's internalcomposer, Pico editor= reads this way.. editor=mkpgp Now create a file called mkpgp that contains the following: [begin mkpgp (note: do not include this line)] #!/bin/sh # schake@cs.sandia.gov, May 28 1994 # revised jmallin@umich.edu, May 31 1994 clear echo '' echo 'PGP and PINE !!! written by schake@cs.sandia.gov and jmallin@umich.edu' echo '' echo 'Enter public key of recipient or return to sign only' read action case $action in ?*) pgp -asew "$1" "$action";; *) pgp -satw +clearsig=on "$1";; esac mv "$1.asc" "$1" [end mkpgp (do not include this line)] Next, issue the command: chmod +x mkpgp Now you should be setup. Just use pine as usual. Begin composing a message and type the entire message. When you are done do not ^X. First, type ^_ to execute the mkpgp script (your alternate editor) then you can ^X and send after you return to pine. mkpgp should allow you to specify a recipient's public key or just hit return to sign the message. Enjoy. -- Now if someone could come up with something to somehow decrypt the messages, I'll be all set.. ;) Thanks Rebel -- Everyone should know of all information that others have deemed unfit for for public knowledge. -Author Unknown rebel@engin.umich.edu -- Rebel without a clue -- Finger for PGP Key Key fingerprint = 6E AF E6 6D E3 2E 87 40 CA 54 64 D3 B7 1A D0 3E From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 14:07:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28396; Sun, 5 Jun 94 14:07:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22162; Sun, 5 Jun 94 14:01:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22156; Sun, 5 Jun 94 14:01:26 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 12:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rpwillia@pentagon-gw.army.mil (Ray Williams@DSSW) Subject: Turning off auto fill in headers Message-Id: <1994Jun3.171530.21484@pentagon-gw.army.mil> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 17:15:30 GMT Hi. We have installed pine 3.87 at my site and we like it very much. The problem I have is we have an older e-mail program (Edge Office) which cannot handle replies to the from headers pine supplies. For example a message from me would be: From: Ray Williams 697-9300 Edge will choke on "Ray" stating there is no such user. As I said Edge is a few years old and out of date. Personally we recommended everybody switch to pine, but this is the U.S. Gov and they tend to like to be backward so I need to stop the autoexpansion if at least until they get with the program. TIA Ray From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 15:48:37 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00132; Sun, 5 Jun 94 15:48:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10128; Sun, 5 Jun 94 15:42:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from Krypton.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10119; Sun, 5 Jun 94 15:42:09 -0700 Received: from localhost (hayden@localhost) by krypton.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id RAA11861; Sun, 5 Jun 1994 17:47:59 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 17:47:58 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Re: PGP/Pine To: Johnny Yuma Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2st695INNhop@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Oh come now, I posted that hack over a year ago. Serves me right, i guess, for not "copyrighting' it. SHeesh. ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or Blue Earth County -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 16:09:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00453; Sun, 5 Jun 94 16:09:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10409; Sun, 5 Jun 94 16:04:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10403; Sun, 5 Jun 94 16:04:55 -0700 Received: from atlas3 (atlas3.ccs.deakin.edu.au [128.184.102.103]) by sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA08193 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 09:04:48 +1000 Message-Id: <199406052304.JAA08193@sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au> X-Sender: carterp@mail-w.deakin.edu.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 06 Jun 1994 09:04:14 +1100 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: carterp@deakin.edu.au (Phil Carter) Subject: unsubscribe X-Mailer: unsubscribe Phil Carter, Ph. 61 55 633427 Computing & Communications Services, Fax 61 55 633226 Deakin University, Warrnambool, Victoria, Australia 3280 email: carterp@deakin.edu.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 19:16:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03482; Sun, 5 Jun 94 19:16:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26360; Sun, 5 Jun 94 19:12:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26354; Sun, 5 Jun 94 19:12:28 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 18:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dwrsun4!perl@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Robert Perlberg) Subject: Re: .sig before Included text?!?!?! Message-Id: <4105@dwrsun5.dwrsun4.UUCP> Date: 6 Jun 94 00:12:12 GMT References: <2s9oh6$6mc@news1.digex.net> >From article <2s9oh6$6mc@news1.digex.net>, by tdarcos@access1.digex.net (Paul Robinson): > I noticed that, too. Pico correctly puts the signature at the bottom of > messages sent from news, but on mail it does it "wrong". Pico itself is not responsible for this. Pico is just an editor. The news program adds the signature to the bottom of whatever comes out of the editor. Pine can put the signature anywhere it wants because the editor is built in. Strictly speaking, Pine's behavior regarding signatures is not "wrong". The time-honored convention on USENET is to include the original message (preferably edited) followed by the reply followed by the signature. The authors of Pine want to promote a different convention which is to start the message with the reply followed by the signature followed by the original message. My personal prefence is to put the original message first, but only if you are going to delete all but the most relevant portions. Given the tendency of many people to not do the appropriate editing, Pine's behavior relieves me of having to read the original message in its entirity if I don't want to. Robert Perlberg Dean Witter Reynolds Inc., New York perl%dwrsun4@murphy.com -or- perl%dwrsun4@philabs.com -- "I am not a language ... I am a human being!" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 19:34:07 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03721; Sun, 5 Jun 94 19:34:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26547; Sun, 5 Jun 94 19:29:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26533; Sun, 5 Jun 94 19:29:38 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 18:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hkusub!pcfong@beaver.cs.washington.edu ((| PC FONG |) 8D) Subject: Re: Exporting messages from Pine Message-Id: References: <2sr7mu$3a9@post-office.nevada.edu> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 01:29:55 GMT You may try the kermit tools instead of sz. It works for me. -- Malboro Fong Executive Officer, Development Services Section, The University of Hong Kong pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. Those who WATCH things happen. Those who WONDER what happened. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 19:34:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03749; Sun, 5 Jun 94 19:34:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26555; Sun, 5 Jun 94 19:29:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26549; Sun, 5 Jun 94 19:29:40 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 18:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hkusub!pcfong@beaver.cs.washington.edu ((| PC FONG |) 8D) Subject: Re: Can TIN use PINE to send messages? Message-Id: References: <2sjg4n$o25@news.bu.edu> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 01:37:34 GMT If you don't concern about addressbooks and a few other things specific to pine, you may setenv VISUAL pico to use PICO instead. -- Malboro Fong Executive Officer, Development Services Section, The University of Hong Kong pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. Those who WATCH things happen. Those who WONDER what happened. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 21:15:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05521; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:15:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27947; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:11:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27941; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:11:07 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 20:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmr@bu.edu (Rob Rosengard) Subject: Saving outgoing messages question Date: 6 Jun 1994 03:11:51 GMT Message-Id: <2su45n$lgj@news.bu.edu> I would like to save outgoing messages to individual files. For example, say I write a message to 'Pam', I would like it to be saved in filename 'Pam'. Currently, all outgoing messages are being saved in the same file. What must I do to have this functionality? Thanks, ROB RMR@BU.EDU From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 21:56:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06159; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:56:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28464; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:51:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28458; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:51:35 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jglassco@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (john glasscock) Subject: Re: Saving outgoing messages question Message-Id: References: <2su45n$lgj@news.bu.edu> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 03:59:58 GMT When you compose a message, hit ctl-r which will reveal rich header. You will see a field marked Fcc: which is the folder carbon copy, that is, the place where your copy of the message you are typing is stored. It is in your default folder, named "sent", "out-messages", or "outmail" (in my case). Hit ctl-k to erase the line and type in the name of the folder where you would like it to be stored (I normally use my addressbook alias name for the person I am addressing as folder names). I don't believe current versions of pine permit this to be done automatically, as elm, for instance, allows. I hope this will become a feature of subsequent versions of pine, and has been discussed in some length on this group. Rob Rosengard (rmr@bu.edu) wrote: : I would like to save outgoing messages to individual files. : For example, say I write a message to 'Pam', I would like it : to be saved in filename 'Pam'. Currently, all outgoing messages : are being saved in the same file. What must I do to have this : functionality? : Thanks, : ROB : RMR@BU.EDU -- John Glasscock jglassco@ucs.indiana.edu 100 N. Jefferson tel: 812-336-0246 Bloomington, IN 47408 USA Indiana University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 21:56:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06188; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:56:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28472; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:51:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28466; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:51:38 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jglassco@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (john glasscock) Subject: Re: Can TIN use PINE to send messages? Message-Id: References: Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 04:04:25 GMT I do, with great satisfaction. "vi" is a pain, "emacs" is a chore (albeit, I have great feelings of guilt for not taking the time to master emacs). Edit your .cshrc to include the line pcfong suggests below. Invoke the pico editor to edit your .cshrc by typing pico .cshrc (or whatever shell you are using, e.g., .tshrc) (| PC FONG |) 8D (pcfong@hkusub) wrote: : If you don't concern about addressbooks and a few other things specific : to pine, you may : setenv VISUAL pico : to use PICO instead. : -- : Malboro Fong : Executive Officer, : Development Services Section, : The University of Hong Kong : pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ : There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. : Those who WATCH things happen. : Those who WONDER what happened. -- John Glasscock jglassco@ucs.indiana.edu 100 N. Jefferson tel: 812-336-0246 Bloomington, IN 47408 USA Indiana University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 21:56:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06208; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:56:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28456; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:51:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28450; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:51:33 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 20:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rklimkie@mason1.gmu.edu (Robert E Klimkiewicz) Subject: Re: is there a ctrl-key for quoting? Date: 6 Jun 1994 03:28:47 GMT Message-Id: <2su55f$fco@portal.gmu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit g.h.chinoy (hussain@artsci.wustl.edu) wrote: : Hi, all, : I was wondering if there was a way to mark a section of text and : have it quoted (i.e. have ">"s placed at the first of every line) similar : to the ctrl-j, justify and unjustify? Uhhh, in pine all you have to do is 'r' for reply and then 'y' to include the original message. Are you even using pine? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Klimkiewicz, Jr. + "To each, according to need, Communication Major + From each, according to ability." George Mason University + rklimkie@mason1.gmu.edu + -Karl Marx From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 21:56:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06228; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:56:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28488; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:51:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28482; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:51:45 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jglassco@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (john glasscock) Control: cancel Subject: cancel Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 04:10:18 GMT Article cancelled from within tin [v1.1 PL8] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 22:20:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06697; Sun, 5 Jun 94 22:20:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28782; Sun, 5 Jun 94 22:13:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28776; Sun, 5 Jun 94 22:13:34 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jglassco@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (john glasscock) Subject: Re: Can TIN use PINE to send messages? Message-Id: References: Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 04:13:14 GMT I do, with great satisfaction. "vi" is a pain, "emacs" is a chore (albeit, I have great feelings of guilt for not taking the time to master emacs). Edit your tinrc to include the line pcfong suggests below. Invoke the pico editor to edit your tinrc by typing pico tinrc (this is good to apply to whatever shell you are using, e.g., .cshrc, tshrc) : (| PC FONG |) 8D (pcfong@hkusub) wrote: : : If you don't concern about addressbooks and a few other things specific : : to pine, you may : : setenv VISUAL pico : : to use PICO instead. : : -- : : Malboro Fong : : Executive Officer, : : Development Services Section, : : The University of Hong Kong : : pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk : : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ : : There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. : : Those who WATCH things happen. : : Those who WONDER what happened. : -- : John Glasscock jglassco@ucs.indiana.edu : 100 N. Jefferson tel: 812-336-0246 : Bloomington, IN 47408 USA Indiana University -- John Glasscock jglassco@ucs.indiana.edu 100 N. Jefferson tel: 812-336-0246 Bloomington, IN 47408 USA Indiana University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 22:20:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06699; Sun, 5 Jun 94 22:20:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28800; Sun, 5 Jun 94 22:14:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail.crl.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28794; Sun, 5 Jun 94 22:14:15 -0700 Received: from crl.crl.com (crl.com) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA01097 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 5 Jun 1994 22:12:15 -0700 Received: by crl.crl.com id AA09861 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Sun, 5 Jun 1994 22:12:13 -0700 Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 22:08:36 -0700 (PDT) From: L_Man Subject: Re: cancel <------can this be filtered out? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a way to delete (a sort of e-mail kill file) to delete cancel and unsubscribe request on this mail list? lmbutler@crl.com | "I do not know what expert judges would think about the intrinsic excellence or perfection of the object in question, but I do know that it pleases me to behold or contemplate.It may or may not be admirable in the judgment of experts, but I enjoy it nevertheless"-M.J.Adler From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 23:26:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07904; Sun, 5 Jun 94 23:26:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29714; Sun, 5 Jun 94 23:21:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29708; Sun, 5 Jun 94 23:21:53 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 22:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: caliburn@crl.com (Chris E. Becht) Subject: Sig. File for dummies Date: 5 Jun 1994 22:23:17 -0700 Message-Id: <2subs5$asl@crl.crl.com> Could some nice person out there tell me, in plain english, how to create and attach a sig. file? I am not a computer person, nor, honestly, do I have any desire to become one. I just want to add a nice little signature to my mail. Please e mail to save bandwidth. THanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 00:13:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08701; Mon, 6 Jun 94 00:13:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00409; Mon, 6 Jun 94 00:07:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00400; Mon, 6 Jun 94 00:07:44 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 23:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edb@ten-fwd.airpcs.com (Earl Baker) Subject: Re: Problems in printing messages Date: 6 Jun 1994 06:29:53 GMT Message-Id: <2sufp2$rlq@news.cerf.net> References: <2slm3c$85p@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> I have a problem printing using the Y command--somehow Pine produces "pages" that are about 3 lines too long. If I print a message, I get one full page of print, one page of 3 lines, then a full page, then 3 lines, etc., until the end of the message. Any ideas on what causes this or how to stop it? -- edb@airpcs.com (formerly edb@teltechlabs.com) sss k k y y w w eee a sss eee l a.k.a. ss kk yy www ee aaa ss ee l skyweasel@airpcs.com sss k k y w w eee a a sss eee llll From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 00:23:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08866; Mon, 6 Jun 94 00:23:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00607; Mon, 6 Jun 94 00:19:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00601; Mon, 6 Jun 94 00:19:04 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 23:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yukes@nevada.edu (P. Yukes) Subject: cmsg cancel <2sr7mu$3a9@post-office.nevada.edu> Control: cancel <2sr7mu$3a9@post-office.nevada.edu> Date: 6 Jun 1994 06:27:13 GMT Message-Id: <2sufk1$4vu@post-office.nevada.edu> References: <2sr7mu$3a9@post-office.nevada.edu> <2sr7mu$3a9@post-office.nevada.edu> was cancelled from within rn. -- Pirkko e-mail:yukes@nevada.edu -==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 03:29:16 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13558; Mon, 6 Jun 94 03:29:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20743; Mon, 6 Jun 94 03:22:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20737; Mon, 6 Jun 94 03:22:11 -0700 Received: by bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk (Smail-3.1.28.1 #136) id m0qAbob-000BzEC; Mon, 6 Jun 94 11:21 BST Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 11:21:56 +0100 (BST) From: "P.J. MacDonald" Subject: unsubscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 04:04:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14539; Mon, 6 Jun 94 04:04:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03610; Mon, 6 Jun 94 03:58:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03604; Mon, 6 Jun 94 03:58:03 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 03:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: df@christa.unh.edu (Daniel Ford) Subject: Re: is there a ctrl-key for quoting? Date: 6 Jun 1994 10:30:57 GMT Message-Id: <2sutt1$qr9@mozz.unh.edu> References: <2su55f$fco@portal.gmu.edu> >: I was wondering if there was a way to mark a section of text and >: have it quoted (i.e. have ">"s placed at the first of every line) similar >: to the ctrl-j, justify and unjustify? > >Uhhh, in pine all you have to do is 'r' for reply and then 'y' to include >the original message. Are you even using pine? Perhaps the poster wanted to send the quote to somebody else? A partial forward? -- - Dan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 05:56:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17154; Mon, 6 Jun 94 05:56:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05328; Mon, 6 Jun 94 05:47:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05319; Mon, 6 Jun 94 05:47:46 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 05:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: syb3@aber.ac.uk (Simon Bradley) Subject: Re: is there a ctrl-key for quoting? Message-Id: <1994Jun6.120032.14826@aber.ac.uk> References: <2su55f$fco@portal.gmu.edu> <2sutt1$qr9@mozz.unh.edu> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 12:00:32 GMT In article <2sutt1$qr9@mozz.unh.edu>, Daniel Ford wrote: >>: I was wondering if there was a way to mark a section of text and >>: have it quoted (i.e. have ">"s placed at the first of every line) similar >>: to the ctrl-j, justify and unjustify? >> >>Uhhh, in pine all you have to do is 'r' for reply and then 'y' to include >>the original message. Are you even using pine? > >Perhaps the poster wanted to send the quote to somebody else? A partial >forward? Well then, just hit 'r' for reply, but change the To: address. --Simon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 08:20:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19994; Mon, 6 Jun 94 08:20:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07507; Mon, 6 Jun 94 08:13:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from dxmint.cern.ch by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07501; Mon, 6 Jun 94 08:13:51 -0700 Received: from ecpdsharmony.cern.ch by dxmint.cern.ch (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA00113; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 17:13:49 +0200 Received: from work.cern.ch by ecpdsharmony.cern.ch (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10983; Mon, 6 Jun 94 17:13:47 +0200 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 94 17:13:46 +0200 From: amills@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch (Adrian Mills) Message-Id: <9406061513.AA10983@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: unsubscribe ubsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 10:02:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24895; Mon, 6 Jun 94 10:02:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10147; Mon, 6 Jun 94 09:52:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from watserv1.uwaterloo.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10125; Mon, 6 Jun 94 09:52:49 -0700 Received: from peacock.uwaterloo.ca by watserv1.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 12:52:30 -0400 Received: by peacock.UWaterloo.ca (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for @watserv1.uwaterloo.ca:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA16586; Mon, 6 Jun 94 12:52:32 -0400 From: stbedi@peacock.UWaterloo.ca (Sunjay T. Bedi) Message-Id: <9406061252.ZM16583@peacock.UWaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 12:52:30 -0400 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: unsubscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 ubsubscribe -- ========================================================= Sunjay T. Bedi, (519)888-4567, ext. 5297 /\ /\ stbedi@peacock.uwaterloo.ca / \ / \ University of Waterloo /____\/____\ ========================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 10:42:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26493; Mon, 6 Jun 94 10:42:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11072; Mon, 6 Jun 94 10:33:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from acad.csv.kutztown.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11064; Mon, 6 Jun 94 10:33:22 -0700 Received: by acad.csv.kutztown.edu (5.65/1.35) id AA26107; Mon, 6 Jun 94 13:34:46 -0400 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 13:34:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Unger Subject: unsubscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe /********************************SBK**************************************\ |** Chris Unger MicroComputer Specialist **| |** unge1845@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Computer Services Room 112b **| S** cunger@nyx.cs.du.edu Kutztown University, PA **S B** **B K** Anyone can win, **K |** unless of course there happens Finger unge1845 for Hours **| |** to be a second contestant. and Phone Numbers **| \********************************SBK**************************************/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 11:13:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27668; Mon, 6 Jun 94 11:13:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11915; Mon, 6 Jun 94 11:06:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11909; Mon, 6 Jun 94 11:06:00 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11572; Mon, 6 Jun 94 11:05:25 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 11:05:23 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Phil Carter , "P.J. MacDonald" , Adrian Mills Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <9406061513.AA10983@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subscription and unsubscription requests for the pine-info mailing list should be sent to majordomo@cac.washington.edu, *NOT* to the list! |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 2 Jun 1994, it was written: > unsubscribe > > > On Sun, 5 Jun 1994, Phil Carter wrote: > unsubscribe > > > > > > Phil Carter, Ph. 61 55 633427 > Computing & Communications Services, Fax 61 55 633226 > Deakin University, > Warrnambool, Victoria, Australia 3280 email: carterp@deakin.edu.au > > > On Mon, 6 Jun 1994, P.J. MacDonald wrote: > unsubscribe > > On Mon, 6 Jun 1994, Adrian Mills wrote: > ubsubscribe > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 16:16:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09243; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:16:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18808; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:10:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18802; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:10:06 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 15:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bpn@remus.rutgers.edu (bpn) Subject: cancel Message-Id: Date: 6 Jun 94 20:44:45 GMT Control: cancel cancel in newsgroup comp.mail.pine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 16:16:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09250; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:16:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18800; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:10:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18794; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:10:01 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 15:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cornell@iupucs.iupui.edu (Cornell Tribbet) Subject: Suppressing mailing list names from header Message-Id: <1994Jun6.095839.5944@ivax> Date: 6 Jun 94 09:58:39 -0500 Is there a way to prevent the mailing list names from appearing in the recipient's header. --- Cornell Tribbet Computer Systems Engineer Indiana Univ.-Purdue Univ. at Indianapolis ------------------------------------------ Ctribbet@Iupucs.Iupui.Edu Phone: (317)274-9734 Fax: (317)274-9742 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 16:26:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09575; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:26:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19022; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:20:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19016; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:20:28 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 15:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: syb3@aber.ac.uk (Simon Bradley) Subject: Re: is there a ctrl-key for quoting? Message-Id: <1994Jun6.222703.8135@aber.ac.uk> References: <2sutt1$qr9@mozz.unh.edu> <1994Jun6.120032.14826@aber.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 22:27:03 GMT In article , James wrote: >Simon Bradley (syb3@aber.ac.uk) wrote: >: >Perhaps the poster wanted to send the quote to somebody else? A partial >: >forward? > >: Well then, just hit 'r' for reply, but change the To: address. > >What if I want to quote 2 different messages? Um, the only way I can think to do this is to hit R to reply to the first message, postpone it, hit R to reply to the second message, then hit ^R and incorporate mail/postponed-mail into the second reply. I'm sure there isn't an easy way of doing this! That's really awkward, I know, but it's all I can think of. --Simon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 16:26:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09616; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:26:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19014; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:20:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19008; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:20:25 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 15:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: itjames@barney.ucdavis.edu (James) Subject: Re: is there a ctrl-key for quoting? Message-Id: References: <2su55f$fco@portal.gmu.edu> <2sutt1$qr9@mozz.unh.edu> <1994Jun6.120032.14826@aber.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 20:49:18 GMT Simon Bradley (syb3@aber.ac.uk) wrote: : >Perhaps the poster wanted to send the quote to somebody else? A partial : >forward? : Well then, just hit 'r' for reply, but change the To: address. What if I want to quote 2 different messages? ---- James Pace Fortune Sez: Driving barefoot is illegal in Kansas. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 16:34:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09869; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:34:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19271; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:29:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19265; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:29:28 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 15:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: d93rkr@t.hfb.se (Robert Krenn) Subject: I don't like it! Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 22:13:30 GMT I noted that Pine changes the permissions of the .addressbok file (UNIX!) As I don't want anybody else to see who I am coresponding with, I changed the permission of the .addressbook file to -rw------- and thought that it would be safe... BUT when I added a new item in the Addresbook from within Pine, Pine CHANGED the permission of the .addressbok file back to -rw-r--r--!!! Another thing is that I would like a way to change the quotation mark to something else, is this posible??? >From the simple ">" to whatever I want... ie the initials from the quoted person or something!! And I would like to be able to manually Quote a text block... Maybe just mark a block and then get it all indented with a quote mark infront!! //Robert -- d93rkr@t.hfb.se (Robert Krenn) _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ LYNX _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ STm University of Borlange, Sweden _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ STe tel: +46-243224839 _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ F-030 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 17:19:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11586; Mon, 6 Jun 94 17:19:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20443; Mon, 6 Jun 94 17:13:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20437; Mon, 6 Jun 94 17:13:19 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: giangrtm@iia.org (Tom Giangreco) Subject: Disabling wordwrap in Pico Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 22:18:29 GMT Message-Id: I ftp'd the AIX binary version of Pico from ftp.cac.washington.edu. It works great except I would like to disable wordwrap for reports that are 132 columns wide. Is this possible??? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 19:13:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13964; Mon, 6 Jun 94 19:13:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22228; Mon, 6 Jun 94 19:02:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22214; Mon, 6 Jun 94 19:02:02 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 18:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: caliburn@crl.com (Chris E. Becht) Subject: Re: Sig. File for dummies Date: 6 Jun 1994 17:53:14 -0700 Message-Id: <2t0gdq$ast@crl.crl.com> References: <2subs5$asl@crl.crl.com> Chris E. Becht (caliburn@crl.com) wrote: : Could some nice person out there tell me, in plain english, how to : create and attach a sig. file? I am not a computer person, nor, honestly, : do I have any desire to become one. I just want to add a nice little : signature to my mail. : : Please e mail to save bandwidth. : THanks Thanks to everyone who has responded. I think I haveit now. Go to the editor (pico for me) create .signature, and it happens. Thanks again, now stop please -- SIgnature under construction Please ignore this test Other Disclaimers may apply Or something like that From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 20:36:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15468; Mon, 6 Jun 94 20:36:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23684; Mon, 6 Jun 94 20:31:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23678; Mon, 6 Jun 94 20:31:26 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 20:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hkusub!pcfong@beaver.cs.washington.edu ((| Malboro PC |) 8D) Subject: Re: Question regarding Pine (FAQ?) Message-Id: References: <2sliap$cqv@u.cc.utah.edu> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 02:39:47 GMT Paul Campbell (pawcamp@u.cc.utah.edu) wrote: : : using Pine 3.07 : : I currently am maintaining a list of people who share a common interest : (in this case, modem games). I created a list of addresses using the : add-to-list command, which places those names in the .addresslist? file in my : root directory. To date, when I update, I simply mailed all of them using : pine...addressing the nickname of the maillist instead of individually. : No problem right?. Well, when I get feedback from the group, everyone else : gets the email? I guess that's because all the email addresses are : stuffed in the the "To: " line, right? I'm confused by it all!!! : : I'd like to make the email I send to the group in a Digest form..that is, : only I can send to the whole group....only I get the feedback...get it? I believe it's the respondent to your mail who do the fault. (I'm using Pine 3.89 which may not suit your case) When one replies to your mail where he is one of the many addressees on the To: list, he could effectively reply only to the sender (you) and ignore all others on the To: list. He will be prompted for this. : I'd also like to automate received files with a certain subject so that : they are placed in a certain folder..can this be done? Do I need to use any scripting tools for this?? -- Malboro Fong Executive Officer, Development Services Section, The University of Hong Kong pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. Those who WATCH things happen. Those who WONDER what happened. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 21:08:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16027; Mon, 6 Jun 94 21:08:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24185; Mon, 6 Jun 94 21:03:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24179; Mon, 6 Jun 94 21:03:28 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 20:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmckenzi@hpb.hwc.ca (Rob McKenzie) Subject: Adding extra headers?? Message-Id: <1994Jun7.015531.3900@bcarh54a.bnr.ca> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 01:55:31 GMT I have a need to add a couple extra headers to messages being posted with Pine. Where in the source code (or is it done there) can I add these headers? I tried to add them in first lines of the body, but as suspected they didn't take as they should have. Any ideas? -- Robert McKenzie - Bell Northern Research - Ottawa CANADA E-mail: rmckenzi@hpb.hwc.ca *or* root@chezrob.pinetree.org =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Disclaimer: The views expressed here are those of mine and only mine. They have not nor will ever be expressed as those of my employer. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 22:40:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18119; Mon, 6 Jun 94 22:40:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25547; Mon, 6 Jun 94 22:33:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25540; Mon, 6 Jun 94 22:33:33 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 22:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: awong@Emerald.tufts.edu (Kurama (Minamino Shiuichi)) Subject: Random sigs??? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 04:53:30 GMT Is it possible to have a random sig file at the back of each message? Thanks for helping. --Alex From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 23:19:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18849; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:19:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26164; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:13:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26158; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:13:26 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 22:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: billwill@netcom.com (William Smithers) Subject: Re: Suppressing mailing list names from header Message-Id: References: <1994Jun6.095839.5944@ivax> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 05:25:36 GMT In article <1994Jun6.095839.5944@ivax>, Cornell Tribbet wrote: >Is there a way to prevent the mailing list names >from appearing in the recipient's header. > >Cornell Tribbet ========================================================================== The "blind" cc: command -- Bcc: -- is designed to accomplish this. When your cursor is in the header, hit R; Bcc: will appear in the header. Type in after this the addresses of all recipients who are to get a copy but not know anyone else had gotten one. Separate the entries with commas, but no spaces. =========================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 23:39:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19164; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:39:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26459; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:33:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26453; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:33:33 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: is there a ctrl-key for quoting? Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 23:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine 3.90 will allow multiple messages to be quoted... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 6 Jun 1994, James wrote: > Simon Bradley (syb3@aber.ac.uk) wrote: > : >Perhaps the poster wanted to send the quote to somebody else? A partial > : >forward? > > : Well then, just hit 'r' for reply, but change the To: address. > > What if I want to quote 2 different messages? > > ---- > James Pace > Fortune Sez: > Driving barefoot is illegal in Kansas. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 23:49:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19350; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:49:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26675; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:43:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26669; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:43:33 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mc5305@u.cc.utah.edu (Michael A. Chang) Subject: Re: Easy way to read WP file into Pine msg? Date: 7 Jun 1994 00:07:29 -0600 Message-Id: <2t12r1$4v5@u.cc.utah.edu> References: <2sd80h$q3b@crl.crl.com> <2sgggk$fqd@inca.gate.net> Bob Curtis (bc@inca.gate.net) wrote: : I'd like to do the same thing, but the command "dos2unix" is not : available on my system. Is there a PC version that I can run locally : before I upload the file? What's it called? : Alternately, is there another command I could use, once the file is on : the Unix server? : : 4. Using ^R, I read the file into the message portion of letter. you could use emacs to edit the file.. first, load the file, then type Meta-x... type 'replace' (without quotes) and enter, you'll see a dash show, then type 'string'....and hit enter.. it'll ask you what to replace, type Ctrl-q and then Ctrl-M then enter. After that, it'll ask you what to replace it with, just hit enter... you'll then see all the ^Ms changed to nothing...... (make sure you do this from the top of the doc so that you don't have to repeatedely do it... mike -- =========================================================================== || Michael A. Chang | "Laugh at yourself first, before anyone else can" || ||~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^-----------.----------------------------------------|| || michael.chang@m.cc.utah.edu | /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ || || machang@xmission.com | / \/ \/ \/\/ \/ \/ \/\/ \/ \ || || machang@cadesm0.eng.utah.edu | / \ / WASATCH MOUNTAINS / \ \ || || michael.chang@ucs.org |/ \/ / \ \|| |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| || PGP - ver. 2.3A, key avaiable via finger. || || 512/DB671D 1994/03/03 9BA478DF1F84490EFED2F7C10E9F79D8 || =========================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 23:49:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19370; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:49:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26667; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:43:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26661; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:43:30 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Adding extra headers?? Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 23:08:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994Jun7.015531.3900@bcarh54a.bnr.ca> Pine 3.90 will be out in a few weeks and will allow you to configure the headers you need. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 7 Jun 1994, Rob McKenzie wrote: > I have a need to add a couple extra headers to messages being posted with > Pine. Where in the source code (or is it done there) can I add these > headers? I tried to add them in first lines of the body, but as > suspected they didn't take as they should have. > > Any ideas? > > -- > Robert McKenzie - Bell Northern Research - Ottawa CANADA > E-mail: rmckenzi@hpb.hwc.ca *or* root@chezrob.pinetree.org > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Disclaimer: The views expressed here are those of mine and only mine. > They have not nor will ever be expressed as those of my employer. > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 23:49:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19390; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:49:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26659; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:43:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26653; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:43:27 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: I don't like it! Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 23:07:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 6 Jun 1994, Robert Krenn wrote: > I noted that Pine changes the permissions of the .addressbok file (UNIX!) > > As I don't want anybody else to see who I am coresponding with, I changed the permission of the .addressbook file to -rw------- and thought that it would be safe... BUT when I added a new item in the Addresbook from within Pine, Pine CHANGED the permission of the .addressbok file back to -rw-r--r--!!! > This will be fixed in Pine 3.90. > Another thing is that I would like a way to change the quotation mark to something else, is this posible??? > > From the simple ">" to whatever I want... ie the initials from the quoted person or something!! > Not yet. > And I would like to be able to manually Quote a text block... Maybe just mark a block and then get it all indented with a quote mark infront!! > Not yet. > > //Robert > > -- > d93rkr@t.hfb.se (Robert Krenn) _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ LYNX > _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ STm > University of Borlange, Sweden _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ STe > tel: +46-243224839 _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ F-030 > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 01:01:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20946; Tue, 7 Jun 94 01:01:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27809; Tue, 7 Jun 94 00:53:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27803; Tue, 7 Jun 94 00:53:49 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 00:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stp@netcom.com (Stephen Porter) Subject: Re: Suppressing mailing list names from header Message-Id: References: <1994Jun6.095839.5944@ivax> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 07:27:55 GMT William Smithers (billwill@netcom.com) wrote: : Cornell Tribbet wrote: : >Is there a way to prevent the mailing list names : >from appearing in the recipient's header. : The "blind" cc: command -- Bcc: -- is designed to accomplish this. : When your cursor is in the header, hit R; Bcc: will appear in the : header. Type in after this the addresses of all recipients who are to get : a copy but not know anyone else had gotten one. Separate the entries with : commas, but no spaces. Not to seem, ungrateful for this response, but is there any other way. With any list more than a few names long, this would be very tedious, indeed. -Steve Porter- -- stp@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 01:02:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20966; Tue, 7 Jun 94 01:02:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27801; Tue, 7 Jun 94 00:53:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27795; Tue, 7 Jun 94 00:53:47 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 00:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stp@netcom.com (Stephen Porter) Subject: Re: Can TIN use PINE to send messages? Message-Id: References: <2sjg4n$o25@news.bu.edu> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 07:22:50 GMT Stanley Kurasaki (kurasaki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu) wrote: : : I use TIN for NETNEWS. However, I don't have control : : over saving the messages sent within TIN as well as : : other features that PINE has. How can I get TIN to : : talk with PINE? Please EMAIL me the answer if possible. : Go into the .tin directory and edit the tinrc file and file the : default_editor_format and change it to default_editor_format=pico +%N %F : I hope this is what you are asking for and am not sure what you mean by : other features. I tried this, and when I followup or reply to a post, the status line at the top of the screen says: "UW PICO 2.3", the functionality doesn't seem any different, i.e., I can't get to my address book, or save the messages in any of my folders. Can it be set up to do so? -Steve Porter- -- stp@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 01:34:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21991; Tue, 7 Jun 94 01:34:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28458; Tue, 7 Jun 94 01:27:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28452; Tue, 7 Jun 94 01:26:59 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 01:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hiroki@limerick.cbs.umn.edu (Hiroki Morizono) Subject: Re: Editing with Pine/Pico Message-Id: References: <2s58vq$kn8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <2sjjhh$q3u@access3.digex.net> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 08:02:06 GMT D Mc Intire (chester@access.digex.net) wrote: : In article <2s58vq$kn8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, : David Sang-shin Lee wrote: [snip] : >My question is this: I haven't been able to use the "mark" feature in : >the Pine email editor (and Pico file editor) on my Macintosh. When I use : >non-Mac machines on campus, if I type ctrl-^ there is no problem. When I : >try to do the same thing from my Mac at home, I get the character "6". [snip] [snip] : I don't have any problem with a pc. Are you using the control key, the : shift key and and the key that has the six on it together. I had a problem : understanding what ctrl-^ meant. It's a problem with Apple's KCHR that became annoyingly obvious in Telnet 2.6. There should have been a couple of alternate keyboard resources which were included in the NCSA Telnet 2.6 distribution ftp it from zaphod.ncsa.uiuc.edu if you don't have it already, and try installing them. Should fix your problem. Hiroki From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 05:02:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26886; Tue, 7 Jun 94 05:02:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02112; Tue, 7 Jun 94 04:55:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02106; Tue, 7 Jun 94 04:55:04 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 04:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: danielb@jolt.mpx.com.au (Daniel Ben-Sefer) Subject: Re: .sig before Included text?!?!?! Date: 6 Jun 1994 03:57:33 GMT Message-Id: <2su6rd$luv@inferno.mpx.com.au> References: <2s9oh6$6mc@news1.digex.net> <4105@dwrsun5.dwrsun4.UUCP> Robert Perlberg (perl@dwrsun4.UUCP) wrote: : From article <2s9oh6$6mc@news1.digex.net>, by tdarcos@access1.digex.net (Paul Robinson): : > I noticed that, too. Pico correctly puts the signature at the bottom of : > messages sent from news, but on mail it does it "wrong". : Pico itself is not responsible for this. Pico is just an editor. The : news program adds the signature to the bottom of whatever comes out of : the editor. Pine can put the signature anywhere it wants because the : editor is built in. So how does one have pine put the signature at the end? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Ben-Sefer danielb@jolt.mpx.com.au On IRC: Castor, Dabas dben-sef@st.nepean.uws.edu.au Happiness is like a rainbow.... Whenever you get to the place you thought it was, it isnt there any more... it has moved away. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 05:03:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26918; Tue, 7 Jun 94 05:03:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02122; Tue, 7 Jun 94 04:55:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02114; Tue, 7 Jun 94 04:55:06 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 04:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: L.Crilly@herts.ac.uk (Liam) Subject: Re: I don't like it! Date: 7 Jun 1994 10:30:49 GMT Message-Id: <413c2df44d05@altair.herts.ac.uk> References: Robert Krenn wrote: >I noted that Pine changes the permissions of the .addressbok file (UNIX!) > >As I don't want anybody else to see who I am coresponding with, I changed the >permission of the .addressbook file to -rw------- and thought that it would >be safe... BUT when I added a new item in the Addresbook from within Pine, >Pine CHANGED the permission of the .addressbok file back to -rw-r--r--!!! My solution to this is to move the .addressbook file into my Mail directory and then edit .pinerc and make the address-book line say: address-book=Mail/.addressbook As long as your Mail directory has permissions drwx------ (700) then no-one can read your address book file. As for the rest of your questions, I want those features too. Liam. -- Liam Crilly L.Crilly@herts.ac.uk Not enough imagination for a quote. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 08:22:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01395; Tue, 7 Jun 94 08:22:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05625; Tue, 7 Jun 94 08:10:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05618; Tue, 7 Jun 94 08:10:20 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 08:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: syb3@aber.ac.uk (Simon Bradley) Subject: Re: .sig before Included text?!?!?! Message-Id: <1994Jun7.144222.14330@aber.ac.uk> References: <2s9oh6$6mc@news1.digex.net> <4105@dwrsun5.dwrsun4.UUCP> <2su6rd$luv@inferno.mpx.com.au> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 14:42:22 GMT In article <2su6rd$luv@inferno.mpx.com.au>, Daniel Ben-Sefer wrote: > >So how does one have pine put the signature at the end? feature-list=signature-at-bottom :) --Simon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 09:20:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04376; Tue, 7 Jun 94 09:20:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07391; Tue, 7 Jun 94 09:11:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07380; Tue, 7 Jun 94 09:11:28 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 09:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Disabling wordwrap in Pico Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 08:49:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: The "-w" option to Pico will disable word-wrap. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 6 Jun 1994, Tom Giangreco wrote: > I ftp'd the AIX binary version of Pico from ftp.cac.washington.edu. It works > great except I would like to disable wordwrap for reports that are 132 columns > wide. Is this possible??? > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 09:20:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04380; Tue, 7 Jun 94 09:20:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07375; Tue, 7 Jun 94 09:11:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07368; Tue, 7 Jun 94 09:11:26 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 09:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Random sigs??? Date: 7 Jun 94 16:03:24 GMT Message-Id: References: awong@Emerald.tufts.edu (Kurama (Minamino Shiuichi)) writes: >Is it possible to have a random sig file at the back of each message? >Thanks for helping. >--Alex Get one of the programs from comp.sources.unix that allows one to attach a program to a named pipe. People frequently do this for .plan to launch a fingerback program. Some of the versions allow any program to attach to any named pipe. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 10:06:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05992; Tue, 7 Jun 94 10:06:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08492; Tue, 7 Jun 94 09:59:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08486; Tue, 7 Jun 94 09:58:58 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 09:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: re: Pop3 support? Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 09:29:27 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine 3.90 will support POP3, at least in UNIX Pine. PC Pine is less certain. The syntax for a mailbox name will be: {server/pop3} You will not be allowed to use any folder name other than INBOX with POP3, due to POP3's limitations. There are many other limitations in POP3 that will limit what you can do with a POP3 folder from Pine. Also, POP3 is noticably slower than IMAP. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 10:42:21 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07099; Tue, 7 Jun 94 10:42:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09138; Tue, 7 Jun 94 10:26:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09132; Tue, 7 Jun 94 10:26:55 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 10:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mrobinsn@finance.wharton.upenn.edu (Michael S. Robinson) Subject: Re: Can TIN use PINE to send messages? Date: 7 Jun 1994 17:04:38 GMT Message-Id: <2t29b6$mqs@netnews.upenn.edu> References: <2sjg4n$o25@news.bu.edu> I have a different problem with tin/pine. When I try to use tin to MAIL a message to someone, it doesn't like it. Apparently tin tries to send the message by saying "pine user@site -s subject < tmp.sndxxxx" Pine can't accept the "<" input. Any suggestions on what I'm doing wrong? Mike -- +-----------------------------------------------------------+ Mike Robinson mrobinsn@wharton.upenn.edu At one point in my life I had a clear sense of direction and a great future to look forward to. College changed all that. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 10:51:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07463; Tue, 7 Jun 94 10:51:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09602; Tue, 7 Jun 94 10:41:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09596; Tue, 7 Jun 94 10:41:52 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 10:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maitre@gwis.circ.gwu.edu (Norbert Marrale) Subject: Re: Suppressing mailing list names from header Date: 7 Jun 1994 13:00:38 -0400 Message-Id: <2t293m$1e8@gwis.circ.gwu.edu> References: <1994Jun6.095839.5944@ivax> In article , Stephen Porter wrote: >William Smithers (billwill@netcom.com) wrote: >: Cornell Tribbet wrote: >: >Is there a way to prevent the mailing list names >: >from appearing in the recipient's header. >: The "blind" cc: command -- Bcc: -- is designed to accomplish this. [..] >Not to seem, ungrateful for this response, but is there any other way. >With any list more than a few names long, this would be very tedious, indeed. Create a mailing list first in your addressbook. You can enter the nickname of that list in the Bcc field. Norbert -- -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 12:08:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11032; Tue, 7 Jun 94 12:08:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11585; Tue, 7 Jun 94 11:56:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from zow00.desy.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11578; Tue, 7 Jun 94 11:56:12 -0700 Received: from zow44 (zow44 [131.169.42.100]) by zow00 (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA10048 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 20:57:59 +0200 Received: (bogusz@localhost) by zow44 (8.6.7/8.6.6) id UAA29448; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 20:57:58 +0200 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 20:57:57 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wojtek Bogusz Subject: Pine and PGP To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, Does any body plan to include PGP, public-key criptosystem in to pine ? May be it is already in ... ??? Best regards and please send me a copy of the reply because I am not on the list ! --- Wojtek Bogusz e-mail: Wojtek.Bogusz@fuw.edu.pl bogusz@zow.desy.de From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 13:22:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14058; Tue, 7 Jun 94 13:22:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13754; Tue, 7 Jun 94 13:14:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13747; Tue, 7 Jun 94 13:14:03 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 13:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: enkpl@rs4.tcs.tulane.edu (Kevin Larsen) Subject: .pine-debug1 Date: 7 Jun 1994 16:36:26 GMT Message-Id: <2t27ma$ov1@news.cs.tulane.edu> I am running Pine v3.89 and every time I run it a file .pine-debug? is created. Is there anyway to prevent this file from being created, or do I have to spend my days deleting these files as long as I use this version of pine. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Kevin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 13:50:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15214; Tue, 7 Jun 94 13:50:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14553; Tue, 7 Jun 94 13:44:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14547; Tue, 7 Jun 94 13:44:02 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 13:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: giangrtm@iia.org (Tom Giangreco) Subject: Re: Disabling wordwrap in Pico Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 20:20:37 GMT Message-Id: References: In article David L Miller writes: >From: David L Miller >Subject: Re: Disabling wordwrap in Pico >Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 08:49:24 -0700 (PDT) >The "-w" option to Pico will disable word-wrap. Thanks...As a followup do you know were I can get a document that discribes the command line switches to stand alone AIX pico? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 13:59:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15603; Tue, 7 Jun 94 13:59:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14809; Tue, 7 Jun 94 13:54:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14802; Tue, 7 Jun 94 13:54:04 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 13:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kippsaka@Hawaii.Edu (Kipp S Sakata) Subject: blinking .sig Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 20:14:18 GMT Does anyone know how to create a blinking/flashing signature? I heard that it has something to do with editing your .pinerc file. Is that corrrect? Any info on this is appreciated. Thanks in advance... -- _ _ <@ @> +----oOO----(_)-----------+ | Kipp Sakata | | kippsaka@hcc.hawaii.edu | +------------------oOO----+ \| |__|__| |/ || || ooO Ooo From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 14:14:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16184; Tue, 7 Jun 94 14:14:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15201; Tue, 7 Jun 94 14:07:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pg2-srv.wam.umd.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15195; Tue, 7 Jun 94 14:07:28 -0700 Received: from rac2.wam.umd.edu by pg2-srv.wam.umd.edu with SMTP id AA09957 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 7 Jun 1994 17:07:18 -0400 Received: by rac2.wam.umd.edu id AA28911 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Tue, 7 Jun 1994 17:07:07 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 17:07:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "-sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him." Subject: Re: .pine-debug1 To: Kevin Larsen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2t27ma$ov1@news.cs.tulane.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 7 Jun 1994, Kevin Larsen wrote: > I am running Pine v3.89 and every time I run it a file .pine-debug? is > created. Is there anyway to prevent this file from being created, or do > I have to spend my days deleting these files as long as I use this version > of pine. Any help would be greatly appreciated. the option "-d#" is just for that... if you want NO .pine-debug# files created, run pine with the flag '-d0' (e.g. pine -d0). Or if you want lots of detail ... run '-d8' (e.g. pine -d8) ... default setting is at '2'. > > Kevin > > John "Highway" Wu | "To every thing there is a season, | Alpha Phi Omega highway@w3eax.umd.edu | and a time to every purpose under | Svc Fraternity 124 Englefield Drive | the heaven: A time to be born, | Univ of Maryland Gaithersburg, MD 20878 | and a time to die;" Eccles 3:1,2 | College Park, MD *----------------------*------------------------------------*----------------* | " ... Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman | | without the man, in the Lord. For as the woman is of the man, even so | | is the man also by the woman; but all things of God. " 1 Cor 11:11,12 | *----------------------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 15:26:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19115; Tue, 7 Jun 94 15:26:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17145; Tue, 7 Jun 94 15:14:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17139; Tue, 7 Jun 94 15:14:01 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 15:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dbeedle@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Dave Beedle) Subject: Re: .pine-debug1 Message-Id: <1994Jun7.210000.58283@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 21:00:00 GMT References: <2t27ma$ov1@news.cs.tulane.edu> Kevin Larsen (enkpl@rs4.tcs.tulane.edu) wrote: > I am running Pine v3.89 and every time I run it a file .pine-debug? is > created. Is there anyway to prevent this file from being created, or do > I have to spend my days deleting these files as long as I use this version > of pine. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have a seek and destroy cron job that runs every night to find and delete these files (core too). I haven't looked but I would hope that there is and option to turn these things off somewhere? Maybe one of the compile options? -- Dave Beedle - Unix Support Manager - dbeedle@ilstu.edu - Network Services http://www.ilstu.edu/~dbeedle/ Illinois State University "It is better to think of church in the ale-house than 136A Julian Hall to think of the ale-house in church." - Martin Luther Normal, IL 61761 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 15:32:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19375; Tue, 7 Jun 94 15:32:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17494; Tue, 7 Jun 94 15:24:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17488; Tue, 7 Jun 94 15:23:59 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 15:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: .pine-debug1 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 14:55:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2t27ma$ov1@news.cs.tulane.edu> Pine only keeps the last four .pine-debug? files. If you want to turn them off completely, run Pine with the "-d0" command line option. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 7 Jun 1994, Kevin Larsen wrote: > I am running Pine v3.89 and every time I run it a file .pine-debug? is > created. Is there anyway to prevent this file from being created, or do > I have to spend my days deleting these files as long as I use this version > of pine. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Kevin > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 16:00:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20544; Tue, 7 Jun 94 16:00:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07128; Tue, 7 Jun 94 15:54:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from stein.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07122; Tue, 7 Jun 94 15:54:23 -0700 Received: by stein3.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18969; Tue, 7 Jun 94 15:54:18 -0700 X-Sender: absweger@stein3.u.washington.edu Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 15:54:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew B. Sweger" Subject: Re: Disabling wordwrap in Pico To: Tom Giangreco Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 7 Jun 1994, Tom Giangreco wrote: > >The "-w" option to Pico will disable word-wrap. > > Thanks...As a followup do you know were I can get a document that discribes > the command line switches to stand alone AIX pico? How about 'man pico'... pico(1) pico(1) Name pico - simple text editor in the style of the Pine Com- poser Syntax pico [-f] [+_] [-n_] [-t] [-v] [-w] [-z] [file] etc. -- / Andrew B. Sweger absweger@u.washington.edu // Computer Support Manager csg@fammed.washington.edu \\ Department of Family Medicine, HQ-30 (206) 543-2461 (Office) // UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON (206) 685-4337 (Voice Mail) / Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 685-0610 (FAX) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. [WARNING: Bandwidth Conservation Act of 1994 automatically implemented] ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 16:05:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20751; Tue, 7 Jun 94 16:05:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07319; Tue, 7 Jun 94 16:00:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07313; Tue, 7 Jun 94 16:00:35 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10841; Tue, 7 Jun 94 16:00:32 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 16:00:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Mark Crispin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: re: Pop3 support? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mark, This is a bit premature... Although a pop3 driver is now available in the c-client libraries, it is too soon to say whether it will be included in Pine 3.90 build by default, since there is still work to be done in Pine code to make this work the way most people would expect. -teg On Tue, 7 Jun 1994, Mark Crispin wrote: > Pine 3.90 will support POP3, at least in UNIX Pine. PC Pine is less certain. > > The syntax for a mailbox name will be: {server/pop3} > You will not be allowed to use any folder name other than INBOX with POP3, due > to POP3's limitations. There are many other limitations in POP3 that will > limit what you can do with a POP3 folder from Pine. Also, POP3 is noticably > slower than IMAP. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 17:46:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24666; Tue, 7 Jun 94 17:46:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21201; Tue, 7 Jun 94 17:41:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail.crl.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21195; Tue, 7 Jun 94 17:41:07 -0700 Received: from crl.crl.com (crl.com) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA04315 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 7 Jun 1994 17:38:58 -0700 Received: by crl.crl.com id AA19639 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Tue, 7 Jun 1994 17:38:55 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 17:34:19 -0700 (PDT) From: L_Man Reply-To: L_Man Subject: Re: blinking .sig To: Kipp S Sakata Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Tue, 7 Jun 1994, Kipp S Sakata wrote: > > Does anyone know how to create a blinking/flashing signature? I heard that > it has something to do with editing your .pinerc file. Is that corrrect? > Any info on this is appreciated. Thanks in advance... > Well from what I know if your computer has an ansi driver installed you can do the following " flash!!! " now if you just see the code and no flashing colors it might be: 1. your system does not have ansi installed 2. your system does not accept the ^[ (escape) chars btw the code looks like "^[[31;1;5m flashh!!! ^[[0m" if your account does not support ^[ (it turns it into [_ ) like my school account does not, I was told that you could try using a good text editor to give you a CHR$(27) signal instead of a ^[ character. I haven't tried this yet so we'll see. btw... I had asked about whether sending blinking color post was in line with netettiquette mainly because such thing like that are prohibited by most muds and frown upon on IRC because it may mess up someone's screen. A simple crtl l will stop this however. As far as I can tell this issue has not been discussed as far as posts are concerned. Another problem is that having your ansi driver installed some unscruplous individuals may pass along ANSI bombs where by a character's function has been changed to a command to the computer to format the drive. IF anyone else has anything more to contribute to this discussion or correct or expand upon what I said, please do! lawrence lmbutler@crl.com | "I do not know what expert judges would think about the intrinsic excellence or perfection of the object in question, but I do know that it pleases me to behold or contemplate.It may or may not be admirable in the judgment of experts, but I enjoy it nevertheless"-M.J.Adler From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 18:28:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25763; Tue, 7 Jun 94 18:28:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22199; Tue, 7 Jun 94 18:24:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22192; Tue, 7 Jun 94 18:24:09 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 18:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harter@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (Steve Harter) Subject: change right margin Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 00:44:16 GMT Is there a way to change the right margin "permanently" (e.g., reduce it by 3 or 4 characters)? -- Steve From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 18:54:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26360; Tue, 7 Jun 94 18:54:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22629; Tue, 7 Jun 94 18:44:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22623; Tue, 7 Jun 94 18:44:10 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 18:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kevint@chinook.halcyon.com (Kevin Talbot) Subject: Re: I don't like it! Date: 8 Jun 1994 01:26:36 GMT Message-Id: <2t36oc$hc1@nwfocus.wa.com> References: >On Mon, 6 Jun 1994, Robert Krenn wrote: >> I noted that Pine changes the permissions of the .addressbok file (UNIX!) As I don't want anybody else to see who I am coresponding with, I changed the permission of the .addressbook file to -rw------- and thought that it would be safe... BUT when I added a new item in the Addresbook from within Pine, Pine CHANGED the permission of the .addressbok file back to -rw-r--r--!!! >> I have the same concern on the dial-up Internet provider I use. By default on this system, file permissions are "read only" for all users on every file in my home directory. So I changed the permissions of my home directory to "no read" via 'chmod og-r ~kevint'. This *seems* to work as it *should* prevent other users (other than root obviously) from doing a 'cd' to my home directory ('permission denied' message). This would prevent them from viewing any files that have a 'read only' permission in my home directory since other users would not be able to cd to my directory. Comments from anybody on this workaround?? Kevin Talbot kevint@halcyon.com Compuserve ID: 75706,316 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I am not a role model. I am not paid to be a role model. I am paid to wreak havoc on the basketball court." - NBA star Charles Barkley -- Kevin Talbot kevint@halcyon.com Compuserve ID: 75706,316 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I am not a role model. I am not paid to be a role model. I am paid to wreak havoc on the basketball court." - NBA star Charles Barkley From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 19:19:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26894; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:19:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23187; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:14:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23181; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:14:02 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hkusub!pcfong@beaver.cs.washington.edu ((| Malboro PC |) 8D) Subject: Re: How to automate Expunge? message... Message-Id: References: <2s55ai$1el@solaria.cc.gatech.edu> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 01:36:08 GMT Gary N. Boone (gboone@cc.gatech.edu) wrote: : How can I eliminate the prompt when I quit Pine that says, : "Expunge the 1 deleted message from "INBOX"? (y/n) [y]" ? : : I'd like it to do so automatically... I believe you can achieve it in the .pinerc file. Try to take a look at the instructions in that file. -- Malboro Fong Executive Officer, Development Services Section, The University of Hong Kong pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. Those who WATCH things happen. Those who WONDER what happened. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 19:19:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26914; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:19:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23203; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:14:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23197; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:14:08 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hkusub!pcfong@beaver.cs.washington.edu ((| Malboro PC |) 8D) Subject: Re: Suppressing mailing list names from header Message-Id: References: <1994Jun6.095839.5944@ivax> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 01:43:49 GMT Cornell Tribbet (cornell@iupucs.iupui.edu) wrote: : Is there a way to prevent the mailing list names : from appearing in the recipient's header. Try pressing Ctrl-R when you are in the header to get the full header and then you can place names on the bcc list. -- Malboro Fong Executive Officer, Development Services Section, The University of Hong Kong pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. Those who WATCH things happen. Those who WONDER what happened. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 19:19:54 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26942; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:19:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23195; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:14:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23189; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:14:05 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hkusub!pcfong@beaver.cs.washington.edu ((| Malboro PC |) 8D) Subject: Re: ADDRESS IN DISTRIBUTION LIST Message-Id: References: Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 01:42:14 GMT William Smithers (billwill@netcom.com) wrote: : (1) The Pine documentation says that one may use the following format : for an entry in the Address Book: : : John Doe : : But when I try to include such an entry in a Distribution List, I get a : message like, "Spaces not permitted within quotes," or some such. : : May one include real names in a Distribution List entry? Pine treats names of addressees in the form of surname and first name. I guess you can enter John Doe in two parts when you are prompted. : (2) When I send EMail to a Distribution List, is it necessary to strip : off the top entry of the list and place it on the "To:" line? Or may one : leave the "To:" line empty, and simply send the message with all the : Distribution List entries included in either "cc:" or "Bcc:"? Though not ever tried, I read a news some times ago here saying that this is possible. -- Malboro Fong Executive Officer, Development Services Section, The University of Hong Kong pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. Those who WATCH things happen. Those who WONDER what happened. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 19:20:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26962; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:20:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23179; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:14:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23173; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:14:00 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ppyiajc@ppn3.physics.nottingham.ac.uk (Andy Cross) Subject: Alternative editor (pc-pine) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 00:28:27 GMT Message-Id: Quick question. Whatever I do, I don't seem to be able to configure PC-pine 3.89 to use an editor other than pico. I've set my new "editor" in pinerc, and also added "enable-alternative-editor-cmd" to my "feature-list". Yet ^_ does nothing. Is this a non-existent function, or am I missing something? Andy. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 21:58:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00251; Tue, 7 Jun 94 21:58:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26075; Tue, 7 Jun 94 21:52:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26069; Tue, 7 Jun 94 21:52:48 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 21:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kevint@chinook.halcyon.com (Kevin Talbot) Subject: Re: I don't like it! (CORRECTION!) Date: 8 Jun 1994 03:41:50 GMT Message-Id: <2t3elu$qrk@nwfocus.wa.com> References: <2t36oc$hc1@nwfocus.wa.com> >>On Mon, 6 Jun 1994, Robert Krenn wrote: >>> I noted that Pine changes the permissions of the .addressbok file >(UNIX!) As I don't want anybody else to see who I am coresponding with, I >changed the permission of the .addressbook file to -rw------- and thought >that it would be safe... BUT when I added a new item in the Addresbook >from within Pine, Pine CHANGED the permission of the .addressbok file >back to -rw-r--r--!!! >>> >I have the same concern on the dial-up Internet provider I use. By default >on this system, file permissions are "read only" for all users on every >file in my home directory. So I changed the permissions of my home >directory to "no read" via 'chmod og-r ~kevint'. This *seems* to work as >it *should* prevent other users (other than root obviously) from doing a >'cd' to my home directory ('permission denied' message). This would >prevent them from viewing any files that have a 'read only' permission in >my home directory since other users would not be able to cd to my directory. >Comments from anybody on this workaround?? I goofed on the above - I should said to change the permission on my home directory via "chmod o-x ~kevint". This denies *execute* permission to others which is what will prevent them from "cd"ing to your directories and looking at stuff they have no right to look at. Changing your home directory permissions to deny read access will *not* prevent others from "cat"ing files in that directory that have the "r" permission set for "others". Thanks to those who pointed out my mistake! - Kevin Kevin Talbot kevint@halcyon.com Compuserve ID: 75706,316 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I am not a role model. I am not paid to be a role model. I am paid to wreak havoc on the basketball court." - NBA star Charles Barkley -- Kevin Talbot kevint@halcyon.com Compuserve ID: 75706,316 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I am not a role model. I am not paid to be a role model. I am paid to wreak havoc on the basketball court." - NBA star Charles Barkley From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 00:38:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03270; Wed, 8 Jun 94 00:38:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28953; Wed, 8 Jun 94 00:32:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28947; Wed, 8 Jun 94 00:32:46 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 00:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lexdup@netcom.com (Lex Du Pont) Subject: columns = 40 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 07:06:15 GMT I'm running a 40 column display terminal which is set up in my shell correctly. ( stty cols 40) Pine does not seem to recognize this in the summary mode. How do I set it up so as not to lose half of the file index lines? -- lexdup@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 01:14:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04311; Wed, 8 Jun 94 01:14:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16689; Wed, 8 Jun 94 01:07:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <@UWAVM.U.WASHINGTON.EDU,@ETSU.EAST-TENN-ST.EDU:CMS2@ETSU.EAST-TENN-ST.EDU> Received: from uwavm.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16683; Wed, 8 Jun 94 01:07:47 -0700 Message-Id: <9406080807.AA16683@mx1.cac.washington.edu> Received: from UWAVM.U.WASHINGTON.EDU by UWAVM.U.WASHINGTON.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R1) with BSMTP id 5599; Wed, 08 Jun 94 01:07:30 PDT Received: from ETSU.EAST-TENN-ST.EDU by UWAVM.U.WASHINGTON.EDU (Mailer R2.10 ptf008) with BSMTP id 5944; Wed, 08 Jun 94 01:07:29 PDT Received: from ETSU.EAST-TENN-ST.EDU (NJE origin CMS2@ETSU) by ETSU.EAST-TENN-ST.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 9247; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 04:07:24 -0400 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 94 03:41:32 EDT From: Bill Williams Organization: East Tennessee State University Subject: Re: blinking .sig To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 7 Jun 1994 17:34:19 -0700 (PDT) from On Tue, 7 Jun 1994 17:34:19 -0700 (PDT) you said: >On Tue, 7 Jun 1994, Kipp S Sakata wrote: >> Does anyone know how to create a blinking/flashing signature? ... >> Any info on this is appreciated. Thanks in advance... >> >Well from what I know if your computer has an ansi driver installed >you can do the following > >btw... I had asked about whether sending blinking color post was in line >with netettiquette mainly because such thing like that are prohibited by >most muds and frown upon on IRC because it may mess up someone's screen. >A simple crtl l will stop this however. As far as I can tell this issue >has not been discussed as far as posts are concerned. You will *never* be able to count on embedded characters to express some special format in your .sig or any other text. ANSI sequences are not necessarily used to drive UNIX type screens (the largest Pine user community, I suspect) nor are they likely to work on a PC even if it has an ANSI Screen Driver in place. Not everyone use PINE for their Mail User Agent (MUA), and MUA's tend to present data as data -- which means that unless your embedded control sequences just happen to mean something to the screen native to the viewer's machine you will be wasting your time. Even some MUA's on ASCII type machines (PC's included) will actually strip the high bit from characters in text files to prevent just such things as unwanted screen diddling due to embedded escape codes. If you can mail out into netland, then your e-mail may be viewed by any of a large number of MUA's on a large variety of machines. For example, your e-mail to this list was read, and this reply is being written, on an IBM ES/9000 MainFrame running the VM/ESA/CMS Operating System -- an EBCDIC Character System! Your ASCII control codes mean nothing to a 3270-type terminal which not only uses EBCDIC characters, it does not do screen addressing and formatting with plain escape sequences just written to the display -- even in EBCDIC. You gotta do some serious programming to format a 3270 device. My MUA: 'MailBook' written mostly in Rexx driving the CMS XEDIT environment -- MailBook by Richard A. Schafer of Texas' Rice University Best Bet: Make your .sig as attractive as you can with printable characters and don't depend on any special addressing and formatting stuff to work. That way everybody will see the same nice signature for you. --------------------------------------- Bill Williams -- ETSU Systems Support -- VM Systems AIX/UNIX Systems -- East (615) 929-6853 Tennessee Fax: (615) 929-6852 State University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 01:17:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04396; Wed, 8 Jun 94 01:17:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29929; Wed, 8 Jun 94 01:12:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29923; Wed, 8 Jun 94 01:12:43 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 01:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fyao@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Frank Yao) Subject: Re: Suppressing mailing list names from header Message-Id: References: <1994Jun6.095839.5944@ivax> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 07:39:48 GMT Cornell Tribbet wrote: >Is there a way to prevent the mailing list names >from appearing in the recipient's header. If it is possible to have a Bcc: field then that is the way to do it. However, this assumes that I know what Bcc actually does... I think there might be a way to do it by fiddling with you .pinerc though. -- ************************************************************************** * He who will not reason, is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; * * and he who dares not is a slave -- Sir William Drummond * ************************** Frank Yao, fyao@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca *** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 01:30:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04848; Wed, 8 Jun 94 01:30:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16981; Wed, 8 Jun 94 01:25:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from himalia.pt.hk-r.se by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16975; Wed, 8 Jun 94 01:25:11 -0700 Received: by himalia.pt.hk-r.se id AA13805 (5.65+bind 1.7+ida 1.4.2/IDA-1.4.2 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:20:18 +0200 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 10:18:49 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andy Eskilsson Subject: Re: I don't like it! To: Kevin Talbot Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2t36oc$hc1@nwfocus.wa.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it only me, or doesn't umask solve this problem? On 8 Jun 1994, Kevin Talbot wrote: > >On Mon, 6 Jun 1994, Robert Krenn wrote: > > >> I noted that Pine changes the permissions of the .addressbok file > (UNIX!) As I don't want anybody else to see who I am coresponding with, I > changed the permission of the .addressbook file to -rw------- and thought > that it would be safe... BUT when I added a new item in the Addresbook > from within Pine, Pine CHANGED the permission of the .addressbok file > back to -rw-r--r--!!! > >> /andy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 06:07:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12269; Wed, 8 Jun 94 06:07:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05890; Wed, 8 Jun 94 06:00:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05883; Wed, 8 Jun 94 06:00:11 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 05:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tsujino@kgupyr.kwansei.ac.jp (Takashi TSUJINO) Subject: Re: Kanji/Hanzi in pine? Message-Id: <3509@kgupyr.kwansei.ac.jp> Date: 7 Jun 94 10:44:18 GMT References: <2s3efp$nva@news.u.washington.edu> In article <2s3efp$nva@news.u.washington.edu> toz@u.washington.edu (Tom Zeiler) writes: >I seem to recall reading somewhere that pine could "handle character sets >for a number of different languages", including Chinese and/or Japanese. >Can anybody tell me more about this? In Pine Technical Notes, When reading incoming email, Pine allows all character sets to pass through. Pine doesn't actually display the characters but simply passes them through; it is up to the actual display device to show the characters correct- ly. I am using pine for reading Japanese mail. There is no problem. But, writing japanese mail, there are many problems for us. Because, we use 8-bit 2 byte characters. --- Takashi Tsujino e-mail: tsujino@kgupyr.kwansei.ac.jp Information Processing Research Center Kwansei Gakuin University, JAPAN From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 06:37:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12947; Wed, 8 Jun 94 06:37:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06579; Wed, 8 Jun 94 06:31:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06571; Wed, 8 Jun 94 06:31:31 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 06:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: alan@papaioea.manawatu.planet.co.nz (Alan Brown) Subject: Question: turning off file browser in pico? Date: 8 Jun 1994 22:32:42 +1200 Message-Id: <2t46oa$j2k@papaioea.manawatu.planet.co.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit How can I create a "secure" pico? I'd like to be able to disable file browsing and/or directory changing. (This is for a *nix BBS program using pico as the fullscreen editor) I'd also like to be able to have the file broswer start in the directory that it's started in, rather than the "home" directory of the user. Is this eaily done? Answers pointing to the right spots in the source will be gratefully received. I'm somewhat of a c neophyte. :-) It'd be really great if these were command line options BTW :-) -- AB alan@manawatu.planet.co.nz == alan@manawatu.gen.nz ~~ brown_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz Manawatu Internet Services, P.O.Box 678, Palmerston North, New Zealand From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 07:30:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14354; Wed, 8 Jun 94 07:30:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23440; Wed, 8 Jun 94 07:23:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23434; Wed, 8 Jun 94 07:23:42 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA00752; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:24:46 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA17477; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:23:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 10:23:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: Unsubscribe To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please unsubscribe me from this mailing list... **************************************************************************** ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com !"If you ever need anything Please don't ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! hesitate to ask someone else first. ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! I'm too busy acting like I'm not naive"! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! Kurt Cobain (Nirvana) ! **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 08:29:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16366; Wed, 8 Jun 94 08:29:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24485; Wed, 8 Jun 94 08:18:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from dxmint.cern.ch by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24479; Wed, 8 Jun 94 08:18:08 -0700 Received: from ecpdsharmony.cern.ch by dxmint.cern.ch (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA21856; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 17:18:04 +0200 Received: from work.cern.ch by ecpdsharmony.cern.ch (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20618; Wed, 8 Jun 94 17:18:03 +0200 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 94 17:18:03 +0200 From: amills@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch (Adrian Mills) Message-Id: <9406081518.AA20618@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Please help! I want to unsubscribe but the server wont let me! Unfortunately our outgoing mail headers have changed since I subscribed and the machine name is now changed on the outgoing to ecpdsharmony whereas it used to be work.... All incomings get sent to work.cern.ch however, so I'm flooded with mail I NO LONGER WANT! So someone please unsubscribe amills@work.cern.ch From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 09:25:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19358; Wed, 8 Jun 94 09:25:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25882; Wed, 8 Jun 94 09:09:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from soda.Berkeley.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25868; Wed, 8 Jun 94 09:09:14 -0700 Received: (hkuo@localhost) by soda.berkeley.edu (8.6.9/PHILMAIL-1.10) id JAA27893; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 09:08:19 -0700 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 09:08:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "Henry @(0-0)" Subject: Re: Kanji/Hanzi in pine? To: Takashi TSUJINO Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <3509@kgupyr.kwansei.ac.jp> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can Japanese be written by pine? Can Japanese be shown on Subject? On 7 Jun 1994, Takashi TSUJINO wrote: > In article <2s3efp$nva@news.u.washington.edu> toz@u.washington.edu (Tom Zeiler) writes: > >I seem to recall reading somewhere that pine could "handle character sets > >for a number of different languages", including Chinese and/or Japanese. > >Can anybody tell me more about this? > > In Pine Technical Notes, > > When reading incoming email, Pine allows all > character sets to pass through. Pine doesn't > actually display the characters but simply > passes them through; it is up to the actual > display device to show the characters correct- > ly. > > I am using pine for reading Japanese mail. There is no problem. > But, writing japanese mail, there are many problems for us. Because, > we use 8-bit 2 byte characters. > > --- > Takashi Tsujino e-mail: tsujino@kgupyr.kwansei.ac.jp > Information Processing Research Center > Kwansei Gakuin University, JAPAN > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 09:45:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20199; Wed, 8 Jun 94 09:45:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11504; Wed, 8 Jun 94 09:35:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11498; Wed, 8 Jun 94 09:35:43 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 09:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsallen@rs6.tcs.tulane.edu (Jsallen) Subject: NOT GETTING MY MAIL!! Date: 8 Jun 1994 14:16:28 GMT Message-Id: <2t4jrs$2i2@news.cs.tulane.edu> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 10:44:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22986; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:44:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13112; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:32:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13106; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:32:45 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kiro@chinook.halcyon.com (KIRO News Radio--Seattle) Subject: Posting from PINE to Newsgroups Date: 8 Jun 1994 15:59:54 GMT Message-Id: <2t4ptq$c6i@nwfocus.wa.com> Help!!!! I'm a DSNU (Dumbshit new user). I can't for the life of me figure out how to post to the Newsgroups from within PINE. Yours in ignorance Dan Leach -- **************** kiro@halcyon.com is KIRO 710 AM & 100.7 FM, Seattle, WA **************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 10:44:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23013; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:44:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13123; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:32:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13114; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:32:48 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barryf@iol.ie (Barry Flanagan) Subject: Setting no. of Rows Date: 8 Jun 1994 16:43:24 GMT Message-Id: <2t4sfc$2ee@barnacle.iol.ie> Hi, How can I get Pine/Pico to only use 24 lines of the display? It appears not to user the $LINES variable, and although on Linux I can do an "stty rows 24" we also use it on SCO 3.2.4.0 which doesn't support this rows arg. Thanks in advance. -Barry -- *********************************************************************** IRELAND ON-LINE, West Wing, Furbo, Galway, Ireland Tel: +353 (0)91 92727 : Fax: +353 (0)91 92726 IOL Internet Services - Dublin: 671-5185 : Galway 92711 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 10:45:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23076; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:45:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13147; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:33:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13132; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:33:21 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: columns = 40 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 09:03:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine was designed with the assumption that terminals are at least 80 columns wide. In practice, it can handle down to about 70 columns without degradation, but narrower than that you start losing text off the menus and such. At 40 columns, there is alot that Pine does not have room to display... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 8 Jun 1994, Lex Du Pont wrote: > I'm running a 40 column display terminal which is set up in my shell > correctly. ( stty cols 40) Pine does not seem to recognize this in the > summary mode. How do I set it up so as not to lose half of the file index > lines? > -- > lexdup@netcom.com > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 10:58:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23737; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:58:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28223; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:46:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from usc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28213; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:46:22 -0700 Received: from Law.USC.EDU by usc.edu (4.1/SMI-3.0DEV3-USC+3.1) id AA09309; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:45:57 PDT Received: from hal.Law.USC.EDU by Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20132; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:45:56 PDT Received: by hal.Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26307; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:45:55 PDT Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 10:45:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Elmar Kurgpold Reply-To: Elmar Kurgpold Subject: Re: Suggestion for improvement To: pine-info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I'll second this request! On another topic.... You can press tab repeatedly to go through your new messages in your inbox, and then at the end of the folder you are asked "View next folder XXX? (y/n/^C)?" Does anyone else wish they could keep hitting tab to skip over the incoming folders, as opposed to pressing (Y/N/^C)? (Keep in mind this is only if you have setup additional incoming folders :) ------------------------------------- ,-,,-, __ | Elmar Kurgpold | ______/ /_,' | | Network Administrator | \________________/ | University of Southern California | |\) (/ | | The Law Center | ( | oo | "My mind has wandered | ekurgpol@Law.USC.EDU | ) `| |--' from the flock, you see | (213)740-2571 FAX: (213)740-5502 | (___^^^^| And the flock has ------------------------------------- (____' wandered away from me" On Thu, 2 Jun 1994, Petr Skoda wrote: > At the beginning of each month pine asks about moving sent-mail folder to > folder signed with month . But then it asks the deletion of the old > sent-mail-month folder. I have all the old sent-mail > folder archived, so it is annoying to answer several times No. Would it be > possible implement an extension (Yes, No, All, Quit) for this question ( > or others questions too?) > > ************************************************************************* > * Petr Skoda Phone : +42-204-85201, ext. 361 * > * Stellar Department +42-204-857361,857136 * > * Astronomical Institute CAS Fax : +42-2-881611 * > * 251 65 Ondrejov e-mail: skoda@sunstel.asu.cas.cz * > * Czech Republic aststel@csearn.bitnet * > ************************************************************************* > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 11:27:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24833; Wed, 8 Jun 94 11:27:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14574; Wed, 8 Jun 94 11:20:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14564; Wed, 8 Jun 94 11:20:35 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 11:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eaug022@rigel.oac.uci.edu (Ed Gerstin) Subject: question on .signature Date: 8 Jun 1994 17:45:37 GMT Message-Id: <2t5041$al0@news.service.uci.edu> I have a .signature file in my directory, thus Pine includes this file whenever I compose a message. However, when I sent a message to someone with a .com address (my wife's company), she did not receive the .signature part, only the body of the message, followed by a single line (_______). On the other hand, when I experimented with sending a message to myself on my America OnLine account (also a .com addres), the .signature portion of the file _was_ included. What's up with this? Thanks in advance, Ed -- _______________________________________________________________________________ : Ed Gerstin / eaug022@orion.oac.uci.edu : To live long, : : Department of Pharmacology : it is necessary : : College of Medicine : to live slowly. : From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 11:28:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24941; Wed, 8 Jun 94 11:28:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14638; Wed, 8 Jun 94 11:22:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from aaron.music.qc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14626; Wed, 8 Jun 94 11:22:01 -0700 Received: from igor by aaron.music.qc.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA00216; Wed, 8 Jun 94 12:14:51 -0500 Received: by igor.music.qc.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0S) id AA11666; Wed, 8 Jun 94 13:14:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 94 13:14:02 -0400 From: David Richards Message-Id: <9406081714.AA11666@igor.music.qc.edu> To: ppyiajc@ppn3.physics.nottingham.ac.uk Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Alternative editor (pc-pine) I'm no pine guru but what I do when pine starts up is type 'C' to compose a leter, enter the adress, subject etc. and then position the cursor in the area where you would compose the body of the message with pico. At this point I issue a '^_' command and voila my editor of choice is called. Hope this helps. Dave ========================================== David Richards The Aaron Copland School of Music at Queens College E-mail: richards@aaron.music.qc.edu Voice : 1-(718)-997-3874 ========================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 11:57:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26480; Wed, 8 Jun 94 11:57:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15557; Wed, 8 Jun 94 11:50:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15551; Wed, 8 Jun 94 11:50:52 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 11:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Posting from PINE to Newsgroups Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 11:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2t4ptq$c6i@nwfocus.wa.com> Don't feel so bad. News posting is not available yet. Pine 3.90 will support it though... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 8 Jun 1994, KIRO News Radio--Seattle wrote: > Help!!!! > > I'm a DSNU (Dumbshit new user). > > I can't for the life of me figure out how to post to the Newsgroups from > within PINE. > > Yours in ignorance > > Dan Leach > > -- > **************** > kiro@halcyon.com is KIRO 710 AM & 100.7 FM, Seattle, WA > **************** > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 12:28:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28170; Wed, 8 Jun 94 12:28:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16395; Wed, 8 Jun 94 12:20:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16388; Wed, 8 Jun 94 12:20:27 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 12:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dbmcm@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu (David B. McMurtrey) Subject: Re: .sig before Included text?!?!?! Date: 8 Jun 1994 14:07:42 -0400 Message-Id: <2t51de$dia@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> References: <2s9oh6$6mc@news1.digex.net> <4105@dwrsun5.dwrsun4.UUCP> <2su6rd$luv@inferno.mpx.com.au> Daniel Ben-Sefer (danielb@jolt.mpx.com.au) wrote: : Robert Perlberg (perl@dwrsun4.UUCP) wrote: : : From article <2s9oh6$6mc@news1.digex.net>, by tdarcos@access1.digex.net : : (Paul Robinson): : : > I noticed that, too. Pico correctly puts the signature at the bottom of : : > messages sent from news, but on mail it does it "wrong". : : Pico itself is not responsible for this. Pico is just an editor. The : : news program adds the signature to the bottom of whatever comes out of : : the editor. Pine can put the signature anywhere it wants because the : : editor is built in. : So how does one have pine put the signature at the end? Edit the following in your .pinerc to read old-style-reply=yes: # Use old style forward/reply with new text and signature below included text # Old-style-reply is obsolete, use signature-at-bottom in feature-list old-style-reply=yes pax -- mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm v o y a g e r mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm dbmcm@freenet.tlh.fl.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 13:21:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00553; Wed, 8 Jun 94 13:21:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17812; Wed, 8 Jun 94 13:10:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17805; Wed, 8 Jun 94 13:10:43 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 12:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mlindsey@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Mark R. Lindsey) Subject: Re: Random sigs??? Date: 8 Jun 1994 12:57:54 -0600 Message-Id: <2t54bi$bmh@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: awong@Emerald.tufts.edu (Kurama (Minamino Shiuichi)) writes: >Is it possible to have a random sig file at the back of each message? It's not within the realm of pine, but there are two main programs on the 'Net that do this sort of job: - Randsig: you can make it periodically pick a random sig from a file and place it in .signature - Sigcycle: goes through a file of 'one-liners' (that can be as many lines as you'd like...) each time it's called on, and can add a prefix and a suffix (each one line) around that sig. Mine, for example, is one of these; I have a sigcycle running periodically with my fave quips in a file, and then I have sigcycle configured to put a line with my name and address above the sig and a line with my home-page url after it. Sigs in the file can be separated by anything, and I use '---' at the begining of a line. Just email me if you're interested, or grab it from my home page. - Mark -- --- mlindsey@nyx10.cs.du.edu :: Mark R. Lindsey ---------------------------- God is the tangential point between zero and infinity. ---------------------------------- http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~mlindsey --- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 16:49:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08833; Wed, 8 Jun 94 16:49:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23557; Wed, 8 Jun 94 16:41:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23551; Wed, 8 Jun 94 16:41:49 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 16:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gbutler@random.ucs.mun.ca (Graham Butler) Subject: cmsg cancel <2t5413$of1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Control: cancel <2t5413$of1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Date: 8 Jun 1994 19:04:27 GMT Message-Id: <2t54nr$onu@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> References: <2t5413$of1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> <2t5413$of1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> was cancelled from within rn. -- GRB ============================================ // "da mihi, Domine, scire et intelegere" // =========================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 17:17:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10423; Wed, 8 Jun 94 17:17:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24459; Wed, 8 Jun 94 17:10:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24453; Wed, 8 Jun 94 17:10:53 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 17:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gbutler@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca (Graham Butler) Subject: Outgoing Mail Problem Date: 8 Jun 1994 19:09:23 GMT Message-Id: <2t5513$ooq@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> On several occasions when I go into Pine I get a message asking if I want to "Delete" or "Move" outgoing mail for May. I've handled this message without any complications many times before but now no matter what I do the message keeps re-appearing. There have been times when I've said "Yes" to deleting May's "sent-mail" but what gets deleted is the sent mail up to this date in June. Is anyone else having this problem? Does someone know the solution? TNT. Graham GRB ========================================== // "da mihi, Domine, scire et intellegere" \\ =============================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 19:08:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12858; Wed, 8 Jun 94 19:08:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26757; Wed, 8 Jun 94 19:01:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26751; Wed, 8 Jun 94 19:01:05 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 18:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Kanji/Hanzi in pine? Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 18:33:34 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: At the present time, Pine's support of East Asian character sets is very limited. Pine knows enough to pass the ESCAPE, SI, and SO characters used by Japanese, Korean, and Chinese encodings. But Pine is otherwise not aware of multi-byte character sets. The consequence is that, with some problems, you can read messages which use East Asian characters with Pine, but it is difficult to send messages with East Asian characters from Pine. We are aware of these problems, and we have discussed them in our meetings. I expect that we will solve these problems in a future version of Pine, but at the present time it is not possible to say when this will happen. There are many pressing tasks on the Pine team's ``to-do'' list which appear to be of greater importance. It would help if we hear from users who wish to use Pine with East Asian languages. We really don't know how large the community is. Obviously, we have to dedicate our resources to projects that will be of benefit to large numbers of users. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 19:38:21 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13506; Wed, 8 Jun 94 19:38:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27311; Wed, 8 Jun 94 19:30:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27304; Wed, 8 Jun 94 19:30:48 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 19:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: syb3@aber.ac.uk (Simon Bradley) Subject: Re: unsubscribe Message-Id: <1994Jun7.110833.4623@aber.ac.uk> References: <9406061513.AA10983@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 11:08:33 GMT In article , David L Miller wrote: > >Subscription and unsubscription requests for the pine-info mailing list >should be sent to majordomo@cac.washington.edu, *NOT* to the list! And what's even worse is that we get to see them on the newsgroup, as well. Could you put some kind of a filter in there, so that any mail which contains just 'unsubscribe' on a line at the beginning of the mail doesn't get through? And, maybe, even automate a reply to tell people where they should send mail to to unsubscribe to the list. --Simon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 19:47:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13731; Wed, 8 Jun 94 19:47:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27507; Wed, 8 Jun 94 19:40:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27501; Wed, 8 Jun 94 19:40:48 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 19:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: syb3@aber.ac.uk (Simon Bradley) Subject: Re: Suppressing mailing list names from header Message-Id: <1994Jun7.111416.4985@aber.ac.uk> References: <1994Jun6.095839.5944@ivax> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 11:14:16 GMT In article , Stephen Porter wrote: >William Smithers (billwill@netcom.com) wrote: > >: When your cursor is in the header, hit R; Bcc: will appear in the >: header. Type in after this the addresses of all recipients who are to get >: a copy but not know anyone else had gotten one. Separate the entries with >: commas, but no spaces. > >Not to seem, ungrateful for this response, but is there any other way. >With any list more than a few names long, this would be very tedious, indeed. Why? You just enter the nicknames the way you do in the To: field. You don't have to enter the whole address if the person is in your address book. --Simon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 20:33:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14596; Wed, 8 Jun 94 20:33:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28343; Wed, 8 Jun 94 20:21:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28337; Wed, 8 Jun 94 20:21:13 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 20:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Kanji/Hanzi in pine? Date: 9 Jun 1994 03:06:06 GMT Message-Id: <2t60uu$8fd@news.ysu.edu> References: <3509@kgupyr.kwansei.ac.jp> In a previous article, hkuo@soda.berkeley.edu ("Henry @0-0)") says: >Can Japanese be written by pine? Can Japanese be shown on Subject? > >On 7 Jun 1994, Takashi TSUJINO wrote: > >> I am using pine for reading Japanese mail. There is no problem. >> But, writing japanese mail, there are many problems for us. Because, >> we use 8-bit 2 byte characters. I admit that I know nothing about Japanese text via computer, but here are some things that might be helpful: In order to show non-ASCII text in a mail message header, such as the Subject: line, you must encode the header lines according to (I think it's) RFC1522. Pine does not yet convert encoded header lines to non-ASCII text, but this feature will be provided soon, though not in Pine3.90. I'm not sure whether Pine will know how to generate correct headers for multi-byte languages. Pine's internal composer editor is designed for single-byte input. As I don't know how you would write your Japanese, I can only suggest making use of an alternate editor within Pine which generates the correct multi-byte characters. Perhaps the multi-lingual Emacs, or you probably have other editors which do this. Make sure the file written by this editor makes use of the character set encoding in your .pinerc, so that messages are tagged with the correct encoding. You invoke the alternate editor within Pine with the ^_ command, and it is set within the .pinerc configuration file. Pine3.90, to be released in a few weeks, will allow you to make use of this alternate editor for the message body all the time, which is useful for those languages which do not make use of the normal ASCII-based keyboard layout. (My experience is with Czech and Slovak, which sometimes use two keystrokes to generate a single letter.) Again, I really don't know what I'm talking about with respect to Japanese, but Pine should permit you to make use of local tools, such as alternate customized editors, which would support any language. If anyone who knows better wishes to correct me, please do so... -- Barry Bouwsma, back in Michigan, wishes he were in Europe MIME mail to , ASCII text to Unemployed System Cracker and Unix Administrator, seeking work, food, warmth, companionship, free airline tickets, and lots of money From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 23:27:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18393; Wed, 8 Jun 94 23:27:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01498; Wed, 8 Jun 94 23:11:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from creamy.ics.es.osaka-u.ac.jp by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01492; Wed, 8 Jun 94 23:11:10 -0700 Received: by creamy.ics.es.osaka-u.ac.jp (5.67+1.6W/6.4J.6-creamy-mx.1.128) id AA02767; Thu, 9 Jun 94 15:10:49 +0900 Received: by kgupyr.kwansei.ac.jp (5.61/6.4J.6) id AA27376; Thu, 9 Jun 94 14:49:13 +0900 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 14:49:12 +0900 (JST) From: Takashi TSUJINO Subject: Re: Kanji/Hanzi in pine? To: "Henry @(0-0)" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 8 Jun 1994, Henry @(0-0) wrote: > Can Japanese be written by pine? Can Japanese be shown on Subject? We can't do by original-pine. We are doing enable writing in Japanese by pine. Now, I can read & write mail in Japanese by Pine. But it does't work well. So I'm hacking now. Sometime in Japanese mail, its subject is meime-encoded Japanese. --- Takashi Tsujino e-mail: tsujino@kgupyr.kwansei.ac.jp Information Processing Research Center Kwansei Gakuin University, JAPAN From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 23:48:42 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18778; Wed, 8 Jun 94 23:48:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15574; Wed, 8 Jun 94 23:31:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from werple.apana.org.au by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15568; Wed, 8 Jun 94 23:31:01 -0700 Received: from adhoc.apana.org.au (root@adhoc.apana.org.au [192.188.107.106]) by werple.apana.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA20129 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 1994 16:30:30 +1000 Received: (hock@localhost) by adhoc.apana.org.au (8.6.7/md2) id QAA24038 for apana-lists-mail-pine@apana.org.au; Thu, 9 Jun 1994 16:29:20 +1000 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 16:29:20 +1000 From: Warwick Hockley Message-Id: <199406090629.QAA24038@adhoc.apana.org.au> To: apana-lists-mail-pine@apana.org.au Newsgroups: apana.lists.mail.pine Path: hock From: hock@adhoc.apana.org.au (Warwick Hockley) Subject: Pine as newsreader Keywords: Pine, news Organization: Adhoc, a Linux site in Melbourne, Australia Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 06:28:57 GMT Message-ID: <1994Jun9.062857.23975@adhoc.apana.org.au> Summary: Difficulties with pine as newsreader I wonder if anyone can shed any light on this one. I run pine 3.89, the Linux binary for which I grabbed from ftp.cac.washington.edu. It ran straight away without any difficulty at all. Just recently I decided to try pine as a newsreader, and made the necessary entry in .pinerc. This works fine too, except.... take a look at the following: PINE 3.89 FOLDER LIST Folder: INBOX 14 Messages -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Folder-collection ** Default for Saves ** (Local) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ Select Here to See Expanded List ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- News-collection (Local) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- control general junk news.announce.newusers werple.general apana.netstat apana.general apana.archives apana.announce.moderated comp.os.linux.announce aus.computers.linux sci.lang.japan apana.test apana.announce apana.policy apana.linux soc.culture.australian fido.modem fido.modem.maestro fido.modem.netcomm fido.modem.banksia apana.melb.general aus.net.aarnet aus.net.mail apana.lists.mail.pine . .. etc lib bin usr linux FILES linux-FAQ .desc.pag .desc.dir linux-HOWTO ms-dos comp.os.linux The entries after apana.lists.mail.pine, starting from the single dot, are effectively what you get if you do a ls -a on my /home/ftp directory. You can't read them, of course, or in fact do anything with them. So can anyone tell me what the hell they're doing there, and how I might get rid of them? TIA hock From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 00:30:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19595; Thu, 9 Jun 94 00:30:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02741; Thu, 9 Jun 94 00:11:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02731; Thu, 9 Jun 94 00:11:35 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 23:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sarge@cs.uq.oz.au (Michael Sargent) Subject: IMAP programs Date: 9 Jun 1994 06:37:34 GMT Message-Id: <2t6dbe$54v@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> I am looking for a unix program which uses IMAP to test for the presence of new mail. Has anyone written such a beast already ? Sarge -- -- Missing.... 1 signature... if seen return to Michael Sargent, sarge@cs.uq.oz.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 01:33:22 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21322; Thu, 9 Jun 94 01:33:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17377; Thu, 9 Jun 94 01:15:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17371; Thu, 9 Jun 94 01:15:12 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 01:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: re: Untitled Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 00:43:30 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199406090629.QAA24038@adhoc.apana.org.au> Warwick Hockley - Are you sure that you ``can't read [the entries from ~ftp that are listed in the News collection], or in fact do anything with them''? You should be able to open any of these names that point to files, as if they were one-message mailboxes. The functionality of opening files in ~ftp as newsgroups is something that will change in future versions of Pine, after Pine supports IMAP4. So you're seeing a temporary artifact of an idea that isn't going to be in future versions. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 03:18:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23400; Thu, 9 Jun 94 03:18:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19120; Thu, 9 Jun 94 03:06:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from leeman.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19114; Thu, 9 Jun 94 03:06:22 -0700 Received: from slave.york.ac.uk by leeman.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <29148-0@leeman.york.ac.uk>; Thu, 9 Jun 1994 11:03:32 +0100 Received: by slave.york.ac.uk (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for @leeman.york.ac.uk:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA22245; Thu, 9 Jun 94 12:34:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 12:34:40 +0000 From: Mike Brudenell Subject: Re: IMAP programs To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2t6dbe$54v@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "Me too!" Please would you reply/summarise to the list? Mike B-) On 9 Jun 1994, Michael Sargent wrote: > > I am looking for a unix program which uses IMAP to test for the presence of > new mail. Has anyone written such a beast already ? > > Sarge > -- > -- > Missing.... 1 signature... if seen return to Michael Sargent, sarge@cs.uq.oz.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 04:09:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25268; Thu, 9 Jun 94 04:09:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07406; Thu, 9 Jun 94 03:59:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07400; Thu, 9 Jun 94 03:59:44 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 03:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gtr@mail.ast.cam.ac.uk (Guy Rixon) Subject: Problem with attachments Date: 9 Jun 1994 10:45:35 GMT Message-Id: <2t6rsf$g7n@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> I have a problem with plain-text attachements. I've got saved copies of several messages I've sent from pine which are short cover notes with the main text in an attachment. When I view the messages, pine won't show me the attachment: it says "don't know how to display attachment format Application/OCTET-STREAM". I didn't knowingly tell it to use that format. I know that pine encodes all attachments, even 7-bit ASCII text, but I'd expect it to be able to decode anything that it can encode! I note that pine can save the attachment to file even though it can't display it. Is this behaviour a bug? Can I get a better attachment format somehow? Do I maybe have to set some option in .pinerc? Thanks in advance for any help Guy Rixon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 07:05:38 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28425; Thu, 9 Jun 94 07:05:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11207; Thu, 9 Jun 94 06:52:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11201; Thu, 9 Jun 94 06:52:14 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 06:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: goldrich@panix.com (Fred Goldrich) Subject: another suggestion Date: 9 Jun 1994 09:39:08 -0400 Message-Id: <2t761s$q1e@panix.com> When a composed message is postponed, it appears in the folder list; however, it is not really in a folder, and must be retreived by using C)ompose again. Wouldn't it be better if it really did go into a folder? -- then, there could be more than one postponed message at a time. -- Fred Goldrich -- Fred Goldrich goldrich@panix.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 07:05:49 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28445; Thu, 9 Jun 94 07:05:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22990; Thu, 9 Jun 94 06:52:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22984; Thu, 9 Jun 94 06:52:11 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 06:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk Subject: Re: Suggestion for improvement Date: 9 Jun 1994 13:22:45 GMT Message-Id: <2t7535$kfj@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: In , ekurgpol@Law.USC.EDU (Elmar Kurgpold) writes: >On another topic.... You can press tab repeatedly to go through your new >messages in your inbox, and then at the end of the folder you are asked >"View next folder XXX? (y/n/^C)?" Does anyone else wish they could keep >hitting tab to skip over the incoming folders, as opposed to pressing >(Y/N/^C)? (Keep in mind this is only if you have setup additional >incoming folders :) yes - I do! -- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 07:31:42 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28899; Thu, 9 Jun 94 07:31:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23555; Thu, 9 Jun 94 07:21:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23549; Thu, 9 Jun 94 07:21:27 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 07:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: s9898198@sandcastle.cosc.brocku.ca (STORM JAMES) Subject: anonymous mailer? Message-Id: <1994Jun9.055355.24556@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 05:53:55 GMT I've heard some word of an anonymous mailer that resends mail you send to the receiver without any way for the reciever to know who sent it. Is there such a thing and how does does one use it? Fell free to email me (anonymously if you wish.) -- ______________________________________________________________________________ James R. Storm | I protest, I am NOT a MERRY MAN! s9898198@sandcastle.cosc.brocku.ca | -Worf, son of Moog. (905) 227-9571 voice | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 08:01:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29622; Thu, 9 Jun 94 08:01:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24020; Thu, 9 Jun 94 07:46:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24014; Thu, 9 Jun 94 07:46:36 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA09513; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:47:39 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA28028; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:46:11 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 10:46:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: unsubscribe To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! "who belongs, ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! and who decides who's crazy?" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Smashing Pumpkins ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! Siamese Dreams ! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 09:18:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03340; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:18:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25820; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:04:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25794; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:04:01 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20746; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:03:07 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 09:03:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Guy Rixon Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problem with attachments In-Reply-To: <2t6rsf$g7n@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Guy, There was a bug in earlier versions of Pine such that text attachments were not typed as TEXT. So the solution is to ask the sender to upgrade. If you and the sender are already running a contemporary version (e.g. 3.89) then something else is going on, and we need more data. -teg On 9 Jun 1994, Guy Rixon wrote: > I have a problem with plain-text attachements. I've got saved copies of several > messages I've sent from pine which are short cover notes with the main text in an > attachment. When I view the messages, pine won't show me the attachment: it says > "don't know how to display attachment format Application/OCTET-STREAM". > > I didn't knowingly tell it to use that format. I know that pine encodes all > attachments, even 7-bit ASCII text, but I'd expect it to be able to decode anything > that it can encode! I note that pine can save the attachment to file even though it > can't display it. > > Is this behaviour a bug? Can I get a better attachment format somehow? Do I maybe > have to set some option in .pinerc? > > Thanks in advance for any help > > Guy Rixon > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 09:19:28 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03378; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:19:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15112; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:07:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from aix1.ucok.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15106; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:07:03 -0700 Received: by aix1.ucok.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA25031; Thu, 9 Jun 1994 11:07:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 11:07:00 -0500 (CDT) From: becky owens Subject: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII subscribe pine-info Becky Owens UCO Computer Center Internet: becky@aix1.ucok.edu 100 N. University Drive Phone: (405) 341-2980 x2858 Edmond, OK 73034-5209 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 09:38:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04042; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:38:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15802; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:27:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15794; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:27:47 -0700 Received: from ester.dsv.su.se by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28284; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:27:45 -0700 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SUNET/ADMD=_/C=SE/; Relayed; 09 Jun 94 18:26:15+0200 Date: 09 Jun 94 18:26:15+0200 From: becky owens Message-Id: <722782*@su-kom.dsv.su.se> To: "Pine mailer discussions group (pine-infoEcac.washington.edu)" , Pine Mailing List From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 09:41:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04160; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:41:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15925; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:31:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uclink2.Berkeley.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15919; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:31:32 -0700 Received: by uclink2.berkeley.edu (8.6.8/1.33(web)) id JAA09417; Thu, 9 Jun 1994 09:31:25 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 09:31:25 -0700 From: liang01@uclink2.berkeley.edu (Guanghe L Liang) Message-Id: <199406091631.JAA09417@uclink2.berkeley.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine Could you tell me more about pine? Thank you. ========= From hkuo@soda.berkeley.edu Wed Jun 8 21:08:49 1994 Received: from econ.Berkeley.EDU by uclink2.berkeley.edu (8.6.8/1.33(web)) id VAA08159; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 21:08:49 -0700 Received: from soda.berkeley.edu by econ.Berkeley.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17273; Wed, 8 Jun 94 21:04:42 PDT Received: (hkuo@localhost) by soda.berkeley.edu (8.6.9/PHILMAIL-1.10) id VAA03905; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 21:05:45 -0700 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 21:05:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Henry @(0-0)" Subject: Re: Kanji/Hanzi in pine? (fwd) To: china@econ.Berkeley.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R If you are interested in using pine in Chinese, please send your suggestion to pine-info@cac.washington.edu. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 18:33:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Crispin To: "Henry @(0-0)" Subject: Re: Kanji/Hanzi in pine? At the present time, Pine's support of East Asian character sets is very limited. Pine knows enough to pass the ESCAPE, SI, and SO characters used by Japanese, Korean, and Chinese encodings. But Pine is otherwise not aware of multi-byte character sets. The consequence is that, with some problems, you can read messages which use East Asian characters with Pine, but it is difficult to send messages with East Asian characters from Pine. We are aware of these problems, and we have discussed them in our meetings. I expect that we will solve these problems in a future version of Pine, but at the present time it is not possible to say when this will happen. There are many pressing tasks on the Pine team's ``to-do'' list which appear to be of greater importance. It would help if we hear from users who wish to use Pine with East Asian languages. We really don't know how large the community is. Obviously, we have to dedicate our resources to projects that will be of benefit to large numbers of users. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 09:45:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04270; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:45:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15917; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:31:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15911; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:31:26 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wkr@us.dynix.com (Keith Russell) Subject: Line Wrapping in Pine Date: 9 Jun 1994 10:56:43 -0500 Message-Id: Can anyone tell me if there's a way to turn off line wrapping in Pine? I want to send a long command to a list server, and Pine causes the command to wrap in the middle. As a result, the server interprets the message as two bad commands. You are welcome to post responses to the newsgroups, but I would also appreciate personal email, since I'm currently having problems with my news reader. Thanks. Keith Russell wkr@us.dynix.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 10:00:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04878; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:00:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27185; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:51:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27179; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:51:06 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mgflax@panix.com (Marshall G. Flax) Subject: Mail directory Date: 9 Jun 1994 12:14:13 -0400 Message-Id: <2t7f4l$pbp@panix2.panix.com> How do I make pine use ~/Mail rather than ~/mail? marshall p.s. The man page implies it is hard wired. Please say it isn't so! -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 10:16:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05680; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:16:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16698; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:02:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16692; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:02:26 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phil@savvy1.savvy.com () Subject: Where does Pine get local user info? Date: 9 Jun 1994 15:34:26 GMT Message-Id: <2t7cq2$as7@savvy2> Just curious... But if I send mail to someone on my local machine by typing just the username (without and machine name info) Pine automatically adds the machine name & the host name to the mailing address. ie, if I type: To: Phil Pine displays: To: Phil@savvy1.savvy.com Where is this information obtained from?? I don't mind the fact that it adds the domain name, but it is unnecessary for the machine name to be appended... ie: To: Phil@savvy.com is the desired format for our domain. Any ideas how I can eliminate the machine name from being automatically added?? I compiled Pine awhile ago, so I forgot if this is a configuration option. Thanks Phil phil@savvy.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 10:38:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06777; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:38:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28263; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:30:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from hp427u.tus.ssi1.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28257; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:30:26 -0700 Received: from hp884b.badc.ssi1.com (hp884b.badc.ssi1.com [146.252.92.187]) by hp427u.tus.ssi1.com (8.6.7/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA23782 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 1994 10:23:39 -0700 Received: from hp888b.badc.ssi1.com (hp888b.badc.ssi1.com [146.252.92.153]) by hp884b.badc.ssi1.com (8.6.7/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA00502 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 1994 10:18:21 -0700 Received: (bmeih@localhost) by hp888b.badc.ssi1.com (8.6.7/8.6.4) id KAA08607 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 9 Jun 1994 10:28:27 -0700 From: Mei-Tjng Huang Message-Id: <199406091728.KAA08607@hp888b.badc.ssi1.com> Subject: pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:28:27 PDT Organization: Silicon Systems Inc. Email: bmeih@badc.ssi1.com Phone: (408) 383-7332 Fax: (408) 383-7338 Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Yes, I would be interested in pine in Chinese -- ************************ * Mei-Tjng Huang * * bmeih@badc.ssi1.com * __o * Silicon Systems Inc. * -\<, * (408) 383-7332 * _ _ _ _ (*)/(*) - - ************************ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 10:56:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07510; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:56:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28694; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:42:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28685; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:42:34 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Shell? + questions & suggestions Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 09:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994May28.201758.19643@umr.edu> On Sat, 28 May 1994, Jim Ockers wrote: > 1) How does one run a shell command or spawn a shell in pico or pine? It > seems that if it is possible to do either of these, the functions must be > undocumented to date. On many occasions I have needed to run a shell from > within pico and have been very frustrated at not being able to. The same > would be true of pine if I were to use it on a regular basis, which I am > thinking about doing. > If you run pine with the "-z" command line option or put enable-suspend on the feature-list in your .pinerc file, you use ^Z to suspend the current Pine session. Pico also supports the "-z" option. > 2) Does the mime-encoding and decoding support uuencoding? The tech notes > indicate that what pine does is similar to uuencoding, for attaching > binary files. However, it doesn't say whether or not it actually will > uudecode or uuencode something. > MIME does not support uuencode, and Pine does not currently support any of the ad-hoc extensions floating around for it. Pine 3.90 will have more flexibility in decoding uuencoded attachments... > 3) I tried out the nntp access using PC-PINE. I am using PC-PINE 3.87. > Is it possible to post messages to usenet using C(ompose) in the pine > folder-reader? Also, how do I get pine to recognize my kill file, so > that I don't have to read through the garbage that I've already marked > for weeding out? > Posting will be supported in Pine 3.90, which should be available in a few weeks. > 4) No one on campus is running an IMAP server yet, so I don't know how > this would work. My PC has no user authentication or login, so it cannot > transmit userid or password information to a remote server. When pine > attemtps to establish the IMAP connection, to read the NFS-mounted > user/spool/mail/$user mail file, will it ask for my userid and password > on the {remote-host}? > PC-Pine will prompt for username/password when you open a connection to the IMAP server. We strongly recommend that you connect via IMAP directly to the server that actually stores your folders rather than using NFS, especially for your INBOX. > 5) Finally, if I leave the configuration setting so that the inbox is > called INBOX, as is the default, will pine know to go to the > /user/spool/mail/$user file for my mail and not to someplace like > $home/INBOX ? > Pine will use the default path for your system (e.g. /usr/spool/mail/$USER) unless it is overridden in either /usr/local/lib/pine.conf or ~/.pinerc. > Thanks in advance for the info. > > -- > Jim > > ====================================================================== > There are few foods which can't be improved by a > suitable application of barbecue sauce. > ====================================================================== > Click here for my home page > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 10:56:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07550; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:56:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17927; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:42:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17918; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:42:37 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Suggestion for improvement Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 10:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2t7535$kfj@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> This was just implemented a couple days ago and will be included in Pine 3.90.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 9 Jun 1994 bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk wrote: > In , ekurgpol@Law.USC.EDU (Elmar Kurgpold) writes: > > >On another topic.... You can press tab repeatedly to go through your new > >messages in your inbox, and then at the end of the folder you are asked > >"View next folder XXX? (y/n/^C)?" Does anyone else wish they could keep > >hitting tab to skip over the incoming folders, as opposed to pressing > >(Y/N/^C)? (Keep in mind this is only if you have setup additional > >incoming folders :) > > yes - I do! > > -- > Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 223 334600 > Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 223 334713 > University of Cambridge Computing Service Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk > New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 11:09:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08220; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:09:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18449; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:01:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18443; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:01:22 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Problem with attachments Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 10:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2t6rsf$g7n@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Some old versions of Pine (e.g. 3.07) incorrectly labeled all attachments as Application/OCTET-STREAM. You should still be able to save the attachment to a file though... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 9 Jun 1994, Guy Rixon wrote: > I have a problem with plain-text attachements. I've got saved copies of several > messages I've sent from pine which are short cover notes with the main text in an > attachment. When I view the messages, pine won't show me the attachment: it says > "don't know how to display attachment format Application/OCTET-STREAM". > > I didn't knowingly tell it to use that format. I know that pine encodes all > attachments, even 7-bit ASCII text, but I'd expect it to be able to decode anything > that it can encode! I note that pine can save the attachment to file even though it > can't display it. > > Is this behaviour a bug? Can I get a better attachment format somehow? Do I maybe > have to set some option in .pinerc? > > Thanks in advance for any help > > Guy Rixon > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 11:09:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08254; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:09:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29239; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:01:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29231; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:01:26 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: another suggestion Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 10:14:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2t761s$q1e@panix.com> Pine 3.90 will do this. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 9 Jun 1994, Fred Goldrich wrote: > When a composed message is postponed, it appears in the > folder list; however, it is not really in a folder, and must be > retreived by using C)ompose again. > > Wouldn't it be better if it really did go into a folder? -- > then, there could be more than one postponed message at a time. > > -- Fred Goldrich > -- > Fred Goldrich > goldrich@panix.com > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 11:10:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08317; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:10:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29229; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:01:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29223; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:01:18 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Outgoing Mail Problem Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 10:09:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2t5513$ooq@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Check the last-time-prune-questioned setting in your .pinerc file. This should read "94.6" after your first Pine session in June.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 8 Jun 1994, Graham Butler wrote: > > On several occasions when I go into Pine I get a message asking if I want > to "Delete" or "Move" outgoing mail for May. I've handled this message > without any complications many times before but now no matter what I do > the message keeps re-appearing. There have been times when I've said > "Yes" to deleting May's "sent-mail" but what gets deleted is the sent mail > up to this date in June. > > Is anyone else having this problem? Does someone know the solution? > > TNT. > Graham > GRB > ========================================== > // "da mihi, Domine, scire et intellegere" \\ > =============================================== > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 11:20:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08881; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:20:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18779; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:10:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18773; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:10:22 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Mail directory Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 10:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2t7f4l$pbp@panix2.panix.com> Set "folder-collections=Mail/[]" in your .pinerc file. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 9 Jun 1994, Marshall G. Flax wrote: > How do I make pine use ~/Mail rather than ~/mail? > > marshall > > p.s. The man page implies it is hard wired. Please say it isn't so! > -- > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 11:34:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09411; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:34:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29967; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:25:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29957; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:25:26 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Where does Pine get local user info? Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 10:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2t7cq2$as7@savvy2> You can adjust this by setting use-only-domain or user-domain in your .pinerc or /usr/local/lib/pine.conf file. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 9 Jun 1994 phil@savvy1.savvy.com wrote: > > Just curious... But if I send mail to someone on my local machine by > typing just the username (without and machine name info) Pine > automatically adds the machine name & the host name to the mailing > address. ie, if I type: > > To: Phil > > Pine displays: > > To: Phil@savvy1.savvy.com > > > Where is this information obtained from?? I don't mind the fact that it > adds the domain name, but it is unnecessary for the machine name to be > appended... ie: > > To: Phil@savvy.com > > is the desired format for our domain. Any ideas how I can eliminate the > machine name from being automatically added?? I compiled Pine awhile > ago, so I forgot if this is a configuration option. > > Thanks > Phil > phil@savvy.com > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 13:06:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14164; Thu, 9 Jun 94 13:06:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02554; Thu, 9 Jun 94 12:54:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from admin.aurora.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02547; Thu, 9 Jun 94 12:54:15 -0700 Received: by ADMIN.aurora.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA16767; Thu, 9 Jun 1994 14:54:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 14:54:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Lowe Subject: PINE 3.89 Screen Refreshes To: Pine Information List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In our DEC environment, most of our VT420 terminals are configured to support multiple sessions. With session #1 being on the VAX, session #2 on an Ultrix host executing PINE, the user receives an indication that something has happened in session #2. When the user switches to session #2, the FOLDER INDEX screen is still blank -- ie, no messages received. Does PINE refresh the screen even if no new messages have been received? - Steve Lowe Aurora University slowe@admin.aurora.edu 708 844 5290 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 13:18:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14669; Thu, 9 Jun 94 13:18:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22502; Thu, 9 Jun 94 13:11:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22496; Thu, 9 Jun 94 13:11:43 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 12:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mgflax@panix.com (Marshall G. Flax) Subject: Re: Mail directory Date: 9 Jun 1994 15:07:48 -0400 Message-Id: <2t7pa4$5tf@panix2.panix.com> References: In article , David L Miller wrote: > >Set "folder-collections=Mail/[]" in your .pinerc file. Much obliged. Now I can continue having directories beginning with [A-Z] and ordinary files beginning with [a-z]. marshall -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 14:19:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17149; Thu, 9 Jun 94 14:19:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04932; Thu, 9 Jun 94 14:11:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04926; Thu, 9 Jun 94 14:11:46 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 13:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jaket@netcom.com (jake taylor) Subject: Off-line Mail Composer/Rdr? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 19:25:42 GMT Does anyone know of an offline mail composer and mail reader specifically written for Netcom/Pine? If not a program, is there an available script? Any leads would be appreciated. THANKS! jake taylor, san francisco -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 16:11:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21969; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:11:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27725; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:05:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27719; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:05:22 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 15:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsallen@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (Jsallen) Subject: I hate $'s!!!! Date: 9 Jun 1994 02:04:27 GMT Message-Id: <2t5tbb$l9h@news.cs.tulane.edu> I have imported a file using ftp, it was originally a Microsoft Word Doc, then I converted it to a txt file. My problem is that there are just too many damn columns of text to fit nicely onto my screen. It runs off just li$ (Actually, that was just pretend, but that's what it does!!) What to do? Please don't tell me I have to go to the end of each line and press the space bar. I've tired of that method... Thanks in advance _________________________________________________________________ Jay Allen \ "If at first you don't succeed, \ University of Texas-Ex, 1993 \ lower your standards." ;) \ Tulane Medical School \__________________________________\ Southeastern Intercollegiate Sailing Assoc. Executive Vice-President From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 16:13:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22093; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:13:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07869; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:07:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07859; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:07:45 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 15:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsallen@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (Jsallen) Subject: Moving within a document Date: 9 Jun 1994 02:06:52 GMT Message-Id: <2t5tfs$l9h@news.cs.tulane.edu> Are there any fancy ways to move within a doc. except ^Y and ^V? Anything much like the nifty word processing programs where I can jump from word to word or to the end of the line??? (I am running PINE 3.89 on a unix machine, vt100) _________________________________________________________________ Jay Allen \ "If at first you don't succeed, \ University of Texas-Ex, 1993 \ lower your standards." ;) \ Tulane Medical School \__________________________________\ Southeastern Intercollegiate Sailing Assoc. Executive Vice-President From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 16:20:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22349; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:20:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27995; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:16:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27989; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:16:18 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsallen@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (Jsallen) Subject: Saving Automated Buffer? Date: 9 Jun 1994 02:11:21 GMT Message-Id: <2t5to9$l9h@news.cs.tulane.edu> Is there any way, when using PICO in TIN, to make the automated buffer save automatically instead of prompting me each time??? Why would I want it to NOT save? If I don't save it, all it does is post a blank screen! (Not unlike my post about NOT RECEIVING MY MAIL!!! a few messages up...) _________________________________________________________________ Jay Allen \ "If at first you don't succeed, \ University of Texas-Ex, 1993 \ lower your standards." ;) \ Tulane Medical School \__________________________________\ Southeastern Intercollegiate Sailing Assoc. Executive Vice-President From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 16:29:34 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22613; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:29:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08293; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:24:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08286; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:24:00 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: horen@applicom.co.il (Jonathan B Horen) Subject: Alternate-Editor on VT220 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 21:29:37 GMT Shalom! I work from home via modem from my VT220. Recently I decided to begin using pine, rather than my favorite /usr/ucb/mail, so that I would be better able to support our users. Well, things are fine at work -- there I run a pure X11R5 environment, xterms (no SunStools stuff) -- and while composing mail I can press the Ctrl-Shift-Underscore combination and get my Alternate-Editor (vi, of course :) But back at the ranch it's a different story -- here, pressing Ctrl- Shift-Underscore gets me nada... bupkis... gornisht... I run with my terminal emulating a "cita", because the vt-emulations screw-up my listings and other things. But even if I set term=vt100, I still cannot access my Alternate-Editor in pine. Anybody run into this problem? Anybody gotta solution? ---------------------------horen@applicom.co.il--------------------------- Jonathan B. Horen Sr. System Administrator From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 16:56:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23670; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:56:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29030; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:51:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29022; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:51:28 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bc@tequesta.gate.net (Bob Curtis) Subject: Re: unsubscribe Date: 9 Jun 1994 18:29:06 -0400 Message-Id: References: <9406061513.AA10983@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch> amills@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch (Adrian Mills) writes: >ubsubscribe Why do we gat all the clueless people posting "unsubscribe" in this newsgroup? It doesn't happen in other groups... BC From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 16:57:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23697; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:57:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29009; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:51:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29003; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:51:22 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Line Wrapping in Pine Date: 9 Jun 1994 22:45:56 GMT Message-Id: <2t8634$4hp@news.ysu.edu> References: In a previous article, wkr@us.dynix.com (Keith Russell) says: >Can anyone tell me if there's a way to turn off line wrapping in Pine? I >want to send a long command to a list server, and Pine causes the command >to wrap in the middle. As a one-time solution for each time you need to do this, you can move your cursor to the start of the second line which has been wrapped, and delete the previous character, which will cause the second line to be appended to the first, with the space that ends the first line before the newline left intact. So long as you do not have need to make any further corrections to this long line, it should remain intact as a single line. Note that anything that causes Pine to make use of QUOTED-PRINTABLE encoding will result in the line being broken with the MIME continuation character ( = ) inserted. This would include making use of any 8-bit characters. The reason for breaking this line is to assure it would pass any gateways which chop lines longer than a certain length. -- Barry Bouwsma, back in Michigan, wishes he were in Europe MIME mail to , ASCII text to Unemployed System Cracker and Unix Administrator, seeking work, food, warmth, companionship, free airline tickets, and lots of money From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 16:57:19 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23723; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:57:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09023; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:51:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09016; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:51:24 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsallen@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (Jsallen) Subject: JUSTIFY-ably dumb! Date: 9 Jun 1994 02:08:44 GMT Message-Id: <2t5tjc$l9h@news.cs.tulane.edu> Does justify do anything BESIDES mess up your text? If so, what? I haven't been able to find out yet... _________________________________________________________________ Jay Allen \ "If at first you don't succeed, \ University of Texas-Ex, 1993 \ lower your standards." ;) \ Tulane Medical School \__________________________________\ Southeastern Intercollegiate Sailing Assoc. Executive Vice-President From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 18:03:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26310; Thu, 9 Jun 94 18:03:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10709; Thu, 9 Jun 94 17:58:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10703; Thu, 9 Jun 94 17:58:45 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 17:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tmeush1@umbc.edu (Tim Meushaw) Subject: Re: unsubscribe Date: 9 Jun 1994 23:51:34 GMT Message-Id: <2t89u6$5lj@news.umbc.edu> References: <9406061513.AA10983@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch> Bob Curtis (bc@news.gate.net) wrote: : amills@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch (Adrian Mills) writes: : >ubsubscribe : Why do we gat all the clueless people posting "unsubscribe" in this : newsgroup? It doesn't happen in other groups... Yeah, didn't know you could do that to a newsgroup, just a mailing list. Hmmm.... ;-) -- ------------------------ Timothy A. Meushaw (tmeush1@gl.umbc.edu) University of Maryland, Baltimore County "May whatever god you believe in have mercy on your soul." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 18:29:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26996; Thu, 9 Jun 94 18:29:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01525; Thu, 9 Jun 94 18:20:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01519; Thu, 9 Jun 94 18:20:46 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 18:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbp3@Ra.MsState.Edu (Jay B. Parker) Subject: Re: JUSTIFY-ably dumb! Date: 9 Jun 1994 19:21:36 -0500 Message-Id: <2t8bmg$t2q@Ra.MsState.Edu> References: <2t5tjc$l9h@news.cs.tulane.edu> +--- Jsallen writes: | Does justify do anything BESIDES mess up your text? If so, | what? I haven't been able to find out yet... Hmm... I admit that it's not the greatest algorithm in the world, but it works rather well for me. (The only problem I have is with sentences with the ending punctuation enclosed by parentheses, as this one is.) [It would be nice if it would preserve my double-spaces after parens, braces, '<>', etc.] Just an op... -Jay- -- Jay B. Parker -- Mississippi State University -- jbp3@Ra.MsState.Edu "But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep."-Frost From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 18:47:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27453; Thu, 9 Jun 94 18:47:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11722; Thu, 9 Jun 94 18:43:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11716; Thu, 9 Jun 94 18:43:10 -0700 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.6.9/8.6.9) id VAA08708; Thu, 9 Jun 1994 21:40:34 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 21:39:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael C. Newell" Subject: Re: unsubscribe To: Tim Meushaw Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2t89u6$5lj@news.umbc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Bob Curtis (bc@news.gate.net) wrote: > : amills@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch (Adrian Mills) writes: > > : >ubsubscribe > > : Why do we gat all the clueless people posting "unsubscribe" in this > : newsgroup? It doesn't happen in other groups... > Actually that's not quite true - I get 2-3 of these a day from various groups. The problem appears to be that some people are still running listserv, others are running domo, and some systems converted from listserv to domo [*NOBODY* goes the other way!! :{)] That leaves people confused as to how to get off a list; when they do the old-fashioned commands they stop working, so they try anything... Standards. Gotta love 'em. Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | reflect those of the NSI program, | |+1-202-434-8954 | NASA, my employer, or anyone else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 18:54:08 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27596; Thu, 9 Jun 94 18:54:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11817; Thu, 9 Jun 94 18:50:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11811; Thu, 9 Jun 94 18:50:26 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 18:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: carrollt@netcom.com (Terry Carroll) Subject: Is there a FAQ for PINE? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 00:39:25 GMT Subject line says it all. I'm new to PINE (in a previous incarnation, I had a direct ethernet connection,and used my Mac as a mailer), and I'm finding that a lot of things I want to know about are in this newsgroup, including some things I want to know about, but didn't know I wanted to know about, if you know what I mean. Anyway, is there a FAQ for PINE, aside from the man page? Nice work, BTW. -- Terry Carroll - carrollt@netcom.com "Necessity knows no law; I know some attorneys of the same." - Benjamin Franklin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 19:25:42 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28156; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:25:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12330; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:20:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12324; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:20:56 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: syb3@aber.ac.uk (Simon Bradley) Subject: Re: Mail directory Message-Id: <1994Jun10.012430.5943@aber.ac.uk> References: <2t7f4l$pbp@panix2.panix.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 01:24:30 GMT In article <2t7f4l$pbp@panix2.panix.com>, Marshall G. Flax wrote: > >How do I make pine use ~/Mail rather than ~/mail? # mail-directory is where postponed & interrupted msgs are held temporarily. mail-directory= Just fill in the deisred pathname in this line in your .pinerc file. It's as easy as that! --Simon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 19:25:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28175; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:25:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02867; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:21:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02840; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:21:00 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: syb3@aber.ac.uk (Simon Bradley) Subject: Re: unsubscribe Message-Id: <1994Jun10.013032.6097@aber.ac.uk> References: <9406061513.AA10983@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 01:30:32 GMT In article , Bob Curtis wrote: >amills@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch (Adrian Mills) writes: > >>ubsubscribe > >Why do we gat all the clueless people posting "unsubscribe" in this >newsgroup? It doesn't happen in other groups... Because we get mail from the Pine mailing list as well as everything posted directly to this newsgroup. --Simon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 19:25:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28192; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:25:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02838; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:20:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02831; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:20:54 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbrown@tron.bwi.wec.com (Russ Brown) Subject: cc: mail interoperability Message-Id: <1994Jun9.124256.5462@tron.bwi.wec.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 12:42:56 GMT Could someone please send the specifications for cc:mail attachments to the authors of pine? It would be nice if such a feature could be incorporated, unless there are legal issues involved. Unfortunately, our company has gone whole hog into cc:mail, which has NO easy/cheap/free method of remote access over dial up lines. I would like to be able to interoperate with these people relative to binary attachments. I would hope that Lotus gets the message and adds BASE-64 MIME capability to its product. Spread the word about pine and MIME and let's get MIME to take over as fast as possible! -- "A system admin's life is a sorry one. The only advantage he has over Emergency Room doctors is that malpractice suits are rare. On the other hand, ER doctors never have to deal with patients installing new versions From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 19:54:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28885; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:54:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03369; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:46:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail.crl.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03363; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:46:44 -0700 Received: from crl.crl.com (crl.com) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA08817 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 9 Jun 1994 19:44:42 -0700 Received: by crl.crl.com id AA06261 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Thu, 9 Jun 1994 19:44:40 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 19:43:45 -0700 (PDT) From: L_Man Reply-To: L_Man Subject: Re: unsubscribe To: Tim Meushaw Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2t89u6$5lj@news.umbc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On 9 Jun 1994, you wrote: > : Why do we gat all the clueless people posting "unsubscribe" in this > : newsgroup? It doesn't happen in other groups... > > Yeah, didn't know you could do that to a newsgroup, just a mailing > list. Hmmm.... ;-) > FYI, this is also a mail list group! i receive it by e-mail (as well as usenet) but the people who put unsubscribe are sending it to the wrong address :-( funny thing is if you cancel your article that you posted in usenet everyone on the e-mail list gets an article canceled by so-and-so message in their e-mail a real waste of bandwith! I wish they just filter those things out lawrence lmbutler@crl.com | "I do not know what expert judges would think about the intrinsic excellence or perfection of the object in question, but I do know that it pleases me to behold or contemplate.It may or may not be admirable in the judgment of experts, but I enjoy it nevertheless"-M.J.Adler From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 20:05:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29058; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:05:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12989; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:00:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12983; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:00:19 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jerryb@eskimo.com (Jerry Kaufman) Subject: Changing the highlite to an -> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 10:32:18 GMT I am on a dial-up to a Unix host running SUN/OS 4.1.3, and Pine 3.89. Is there a way to change the highlite to an ->. I've looked in my .pinerc, but can't find anything pertaining. Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 20:45:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29800; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:45:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04406; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:40:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04400; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:40:21 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Mail directory Date: 10 Jun 94 03:27:07 GMT Message-Id: References: David L Miller writes: >Set "folder-collections=Mail/[]" in your .pinerc file. >|\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 >|/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) >University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 >4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA >On 9 Jun 1994, Marshall G. Flax wrote: >> How do I make pine use ~/Mail rather than ~/mail? >> >> marshall >> >> p.s. The man page implies it is hard wired. Please say it isn't so! >> -- >> >> >> >> If a new user who does not yet have a ~/Mail file uses pine with this set in the global pine.cfg file, pine chokes. However because of long time use of elm here we need to do this for compatibility. I have wrapped pine in the following shell script: #!/bin/sh # This ensures that pine has ~/Mail/ available as a folder directory, since # pine does not check the global rc file before it creates ~/mail/, although # it can be set to use ~/Mail/ in the global or user rc. # # RSEllis - Tue May 17 08:44:15 EDT 1994 if [ -d $HOME/Mail ] ; then exec /usr/local/bin/pine.BIN else mkdir $HOME/Mail exec /usr/local/bin/pine.BIN fi -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 20:59:57 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00138; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:59:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04701; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:54:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04695; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:54:36 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24002; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:54:35 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29433; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:27:04 -0700 Received: from nova.gmi.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13480; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:27:02 -0700 Received: by nova.gmi.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-DNI) id AA02759; Thu, 9 Jun 94 23:30:12 EDT From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) To: dlm@cac.washington.edu Path: gmi.edu!ellis Date: 10 Jun 94 03:27:07 GMT Message-Id: Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Subject: Re: Mail directory References: Organization: GMI Engineering&Management Institute, Flint, MI X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5b3.0 #4 (NOV) Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 20:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: David L Miller writes: >Set "folder-collections=Mail/[]" in your .pinerc file. >|\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 >|/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) >University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 >4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA >On 9 Jun 1994, Marshall G. Flax wrote: >> How do I make pine use ~/Mail rather than ~/mail? >> >> marshall >> >> p.s. The man page implies it is hard wired. Please say it isn't so! >> -- >> >> >> >> If a new user who does not yet have a ~/Mail file uses pine with this set in the global pine.cfg file, pine chokes. However because of long time use of elm here we need to do this for compatibility. I have wrapped pine in the following shell script: #!/bin/sh # This ensures that pine has ~/Mail/ available as a folder directory, since # pine does not check the global rc file before it creates ~/mail/, although # it can be set to use ~/Mail/ in the global or user rc. # # RSEllis - Tue May 17 08:44:15 EDT 1994 if [ -d $HOME/Mail ] ; then exec /usr/local/bin/pine.BIN else mkdir $HOME/Mail exec /usr/local/bin/pine.BIN fi From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 21:16:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00517; Thu, 9 Jun 94 21:16:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14282; Thu, 9 Jun 94 21:10:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14276; Thu, 9 Jun 94 21:10:18 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 21:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbp3@Ra.MsState.Edu (Jay B. Parker) Subject: Re: unsubscribe Date: 9 Jun 1994 22:53:47 -0500 Message-Id: <2t8o4b$c93@Ra.MsState.Edu> References: <2t89u6$5lj@news.umbc.edu> +--- L_Man writes: | On 9 Jun 1994, you wrote: | > : Why do we gat all the clueless people posting "unsubscribe" in this | > : newsgroup? It doesn't happen in other groups... | > | > Yeah, didn't know you could do that to a newsgroup, just a mailing | > list. Hmmm.... ;-) | | FYI, | this is also a mail list group! Subtlety is lost on some people. Lawrence, meet Mr. Smiley. Mr. Smiley, meet Lawrence. -jbp From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 22:11:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02039; Thu, 9 Jun 94 22:11:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06088; Thu, 9 Jun 94 22:01:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06082; Thu, 9 Jun 94 22:01:46 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 21:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: toma@crl.com (Tom Armstrong) Subject: Export question Date: 9 Jun 1994 21:44:31 -0700 Message-Id: <2t8r3f$fis@crl.crl.com> Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Subject: Export question Summary: Expires: References: <2t5tjc$l9h@news.cs.tulane.edu> Sender: Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest] Keywords: Cc: : Is there any way to export an entire forlder with one command in pine? Or : is there a way to go throug the index and mark messages to be exported : and export them all at once? It is quite timeconsuming to export messages : one at a time. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Armstrong toma@crl.com CCOF Organic Grower San Gregorio, CA Barnyard Technology--- Ideas for tomorrow -> from yesterday's scrap. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 22:29:25 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02366; Thu, 9 Jun 94 22:29:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15840; Thu, 9 Jun 94 22:21:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15834; Thu, 9 Jun 94 22:21:40 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 22:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Changing the highlite to an -> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 20:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine will use a "->" in the index if your tty speed is 2400 or below. If you are dialing in through a terminal server, try "stty 1200" before entering Pine. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 9 Jun 1994, Jerry Kaufman wrote: > I am on a dial-up to a Unix host running SUN/OS 4.1.3, and Pine 3.89. Is > there a way to change the highlite to an ->. I've looked in my .pinerc, > but can't find anything pertaining. > Thanks. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 22:29:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02394; Thu, 9 Jun 94 22:29:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06498; Thu, 9 Jun 94 22:21:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06492; Thu, 9 Jun 94 22:21:37 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 22:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: I hate $'s!!!! Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 20:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2t5tbb$l9h@news.cs.tulane.edu> If each paragraph is separated by a blank line _or_ an indented line, you can justify everything by laying on the ^J key for a while... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 9 Jun 1994, Jsallen wrote: > > I have imported a file using ftp, it was originally a Microsoft Word Doc, > then I converted it to a txt file. My problem is that there are just too > many damn columns of text to fit nicely onto my screen. It runs off just li$ > (Actually, that was just pretend, but that's what it does!!) What to do? > Please don't tell me I have to go to the end of each line and press the > space bar. I've tired of that method... > > Thanks in advance > _________________________________________________________________ > Jay Allen \ "If at first you don't succeed, \ > University of Texas-Ex, 1993 \ lower your standards." ;) \ > Tulane Medical School \__________________________________\ > Southeastern Intercollegiate Sailing Assoc. Executive Vice-President > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 22:29:37 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02412; Thu, 9 Jun 94 22:29:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15832; Thu, 9 Jun 94 22:21:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15826; Thu, 9 Jun 94 22:21:35 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 22:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: PINE 3.89 Screen Refreshes Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 20:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: When Pine does its new mail check (every 2.5 minutes in 3.89), an '*' is displayed in the upper left corner as a visual queue. There will be an option to turn it off in Pine 3.90. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 9 Jun 1994, Steve Lowe wrote: > > In our DEC environment, most of our VT420 terminals are configured to > support multiple sessions. With session #1 being on the VAX, session #2 > on an Ultrix host executing PINE, the user receives an indication that > something has happened in session #2. > > When the user switches to session #2, the FOLDER INDEX screen is still > blank -- ie, no messages received. > > Does PINE refresh the screen even if no new messages have been received? > > - Steve Lowe > Aurora University slowe@admin.aurora.edu > 708 844 5290 > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 10 06:45:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12903; Fri, 10 Jun 94 06:45:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16435; Fri, 10 Jun 94 06:23:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16429; Fri, 10 Jun 94 06:23:31 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 10 Jun 94 06:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: doughelm@umich.edu (Douglas E.F. Helmreich) Subject: Help with name in tin Date: 10 Jun 1994 13:00:31 GMT Message-Id: <2t9o5f$ej@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> I'm not sure this is the appopriate newgsgroup for this, but since everyone seems so helpful... When I post in tin, my name appears as "Douglas E.F. Helmreich". Now, while I'm thankful for my parents' indecisiveness in naming me, and to bear the extra burden of 2 family names, I would rather the net's first impression of me to be plain ol' Doug Helmreich. How can I change this? I succeeded in editing my name file in .pinerc, but that doesn't seem to work for tin. Will a solution require me knowing how the heck IMAP works? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 10 07:06:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13233; Fri, 10 Jun 94 07:06:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24890; Fri, 10 Jun 94 06:49:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24884; Fri, 10 Jun 94 06:49:45 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 10 Jun 94 06:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: weave@hopi.dtcc.edu (Ken Weaverling) Subject: Re: I hate $'s!!!! Date: 10 Jun 1994 09:25:49 -0400 Message-Id: <2t9pkt$pe0@hopi.dtcc.edu> References: <2t5tbb$l9h@news.cs.tulane.edu> In article <2t5tbb$l9h@news.cs.tulane.edu>, Jsallen wrote: > >I have imported a file using ftp, it was originally a Microsoft Word Doc, >then I converted it to a txt file. My problem is that there are just too >many damn columns of text to fit nicely onto my screen. Just curious, what would you suggest? That they wrap on the screen? Then it would be even more unreadable. You can either justify the stuff with ^J or buy a "real" (X)terminal, and just resize your pine window larger so it all fits. -- Ken Weaverling weave@dtcc.edu |*| My opinions .NEQ. college's position From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 10 09:04:54 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17554; Fri, 10 Jun 94 09:04:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19867; Fri, 10 Jun 94 08:55:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19861; Fri, 10 Jun 94 08:55:06 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 10 Jun 94 08:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fyao@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Frank Yao) Subject: Re: Moving within a document Message-Id: References: <2t5tfs$l9h@news.cs.tulane.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 15:21:34 GMT Jsallen wrote: > > Are there any fancy ways to move within a doc. except ^Y and ^V? >Anything much like the nifty word processing programs where I can jump >from word to word or to the end of the line??? I know that ^A takes you to the front of the line, and ^E to the end of the line. I haven't really had the need to use anything else, especially since I started using emacs to avoid the ridicule of my friends. - frank -- ************************************************************************** * He who will not reason, is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; * * and he who dares not is a slave -- Sir William Drummond * ************************** Frank Yao, fyao@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca *** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 10 09:37:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19089; Fri, 10 Jun 94 09:37:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21015; Fri, 10 Jun 94 09:29:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21008; Fri, 10 Jun 94 09:29:15 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 10 Jun 94 09:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wild@access.digex.net (Steve Wildstrom) Subject: Re: I hate $'s!!!! Date: 10 Jun 1994 11:43:57 -0400 Message-Id: References: <2t5tbb$l9h@news.cs.tulane.edu> jsallen@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (Jsallen) writes: >I have imported a file using ftp, it was originally a Microsoft Word Doc, >then I converted it to a txt file. My problem is that there are just too >many damn columns of text to fit nicely onto my screen. It runs off just li$ >(Actually, that was just pretend, but that's what it does!!) What to do? >Please don't tell me I have to go to the end of each line and press the >space bar. I've tired of that method... Reopen the text file in Word. Format the lines at less than 80 characters (easiest to do if you put it in a monospaced font like Courier.) Save as text with line-enders. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Wildstrom Business Week Washington Bureau wild@access.digex.net "These opinions aren't necessarily mine or anyone else's." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 10 09:38:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19158; Fri, 10 Jun 94 09:38:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29130; Fri, 10 Jun 94 09:29:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29124; Fri, 10 Jun 94 09:29:12 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 10 Jun 94 09:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fyao@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Frank Yao) Subject: Re: JUSTIFY-ably dumb! Message-Id: References: <2t5tjc$l9h@news.cs.tulane.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 15:26:09 GMT Jsallen wrote: > Does justify do anything BESIDES mess up your text? If so, >what? I haven't been able to find out yet... Justify basically puts paragraphs back together so that if you add something to your text afterwards, it will 'straighten' your lines again. The problem is that it does that to all lines up to the next blank line. If you are replying and justify with mail included, there are no blanks lines (due to the > at the beginning of each line, and it justifies everything. - frank -- ************************************************************************** * He who will not reason, is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; * * and he who dares not is a slave -- Sir William Drummond * ************************** Frank Yao, fyao@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca *** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 10 10:12:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20499; Fri, 10 Jun 94 10:12:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00182; Fri, 10 Jun 94 10:05:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00176; Fri, 10 Jun 94 10:05:40 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 10 Jun 94 09:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Export question Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 09:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2t8r3f$fis@crl.crl.com> Pine 3.90 will support this. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 9 Jun 1994, Tom Armstrong wrote: > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Export question > Summary: > Expires: > References: <2t5tjc$l9h@news.cs.tulane.edu> > Sender: > Followup-To: > Distribution: > Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest] > Keywords: > Cc: > : Is there any way to export an entire forlder with one command in pine? Or > : is there a way to go throug the index and mark messages to be exported > : and export them all at once? It is quite timeconsuming to export messages > : one at a time. > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Tom Armstrong toma@crl.com CCOF Organic Grower San Gregorio, CA > Barnyard Technology--- Ideas for tomorrow -> from yesterday's scrap. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 10 10:49:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21573; Fri, 10 Jun 94 10:49:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22922; Fri, 10 Jun 94 10:41:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22914; Fri, 10 Jun 94 10:41:29 -0700 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA01298 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Fri, 10 Jun 1994 13:41:27 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA36988; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 13:41:11 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 13:41:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff Reply-To: Joshua Hosseinoff Subject: Hitting space bar in mail index To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Just a short (and easy to code) request. In the mail index If I hit the space bar 4 times, and there are 3 screenfulls of email in the index, so at the end of the 4th press of the space bar, shouldn't the highlight bar be on the very last message in the index? Instead it's at the top of the last page, and to get to the bottom I have to use the arrow key several times. I think it's intuitive that the final press of the space bar should put you at the very end of the index, not just the last screen of the index. Thanks Josh Hosseinoff -- hosseino@yu1.yu.edu P.S. please cc the response to me as I only subscribe to pine-announce, not pine-info. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 10 11:31:28 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23028; Fri, 10 Jun 94 11:31:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23991; Fri, 10 Jun 94 11:23:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23985; Fri, 10 Jun 94 11:23:35 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 10 Jun 94 11:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pwt@bell.inmet.com (Paul Tarr) Subject: Re: Pine Line Wrap Question Message-Id: References: Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 17:30:27 GMT The volume off mail regarding this question is getting to large for me to respond to individually so this post will have to suffice. No, I have gotten no response, private or otherwise to the question. If I do get a response privately, I will post it for all rather than mail copies to individuals. To all who inquired about the answer, THANKS for the interest, I thought I was the only one with a rather specialized problem. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 10 11:31:29 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23030; Fri, 10 Jun 94 11:31:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02104; Fri, 10 Jun 94 11:22:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02098; Fri, 10 Jun 94 11:22:56 -0700 Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V4.3-8 #1234) id <01HDDIUYZ09Y95N2OJ@INNOSOFT.COM>; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 11:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 11:22:39 -0700 (PDT) From: PORTIA@INNOSOFT.COM Subject: Re: cc: mail interoperability In-Reply-To: <1994Jun9.124256.5462@tron.bwi.wec.com> To: Russ Brown Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT On Thu, 9 Jun 1994, Russ Brown wrote: > Could someone please send the specifications for cc:mail attachments > to the authors of pine? It would be nice if such a feature could > be incorporated, unless there are legal issues involved. Unfortunately, > our company has gone whole hog into cc:mail, which has NO easy/cheap/free > method of remote access over dial up lines. I would like to be able > to interoperate with these people relative to binary attachments. > I would hope that Lotus gets the message and adds BASE-64 MIME > capability to its product. Spread the word about pine and MIME and > let's get MIME to take over as fast as possible! As far as I know, it is impossible to do this from pine alone, you need a gateway program which understands cc:Mail's import/export format, and translate between it and MIME. (PMDF from Innosoft is such a beast on VMS systems). cc:Mail has its proprietary mailbox format and nobody is allowed to read/write to it directly. When someone figured out its format before, Lotus promptly changed it. Lotus's cc:Mail SMTP gateway does not support MIME yet, although they have claimed that they would add MIME support. > -- > > "A system admin's life is a sorry one. The only advantage he has over > Emergency Room doctors is that malpractice suits are rare. On the other > hand, ER doctors never have to deal with patients installing new versions > /portia portia@innosoft.com Innosoft International Inc. (818)919-3600 voice, (818)919-3614 fax 1050 East Garvey Ave South, West Covina, CA 91790 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 10 11:53:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23782; Fri, 10 Jun 94 11:53:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02711; Fri, 10 Jun 94 11:44:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02705; Fri, 10 Jun 94 11:44:53 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 10 Jun 94 11:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hkusub!pcfong@beaver.cs.washington.edu ((| Malboro PC |) 8D) Subject: Re: Question: turning off file browser in pico? Message-Id: References: <2t46oa$j2k@papaioea.manawatu.planet.co.nz> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 17:55:10 GMT Alan Brown (alan@papaioea.manawatu.planet.co.nz) wrote: : I'd like to be able to disable file browsing and/or directory changing. : (This is for a *nix BBS program using pico as the fullscreen editor) I think it's a security of unix rather than pico, so I would suggest you to change mode [chmod] the relevant directories for suitable users. Though it's not very constructive, I do hope it could solve your problem. -- Malboro Fong Executive Officer, Development Services Section, The University of Hong Kong pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. Those who WATCH things happen. Those who WONDER what happened. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 10 12:18:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24636; Fri, 10 Jun 94 12:18:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03283; Fri, 10 Jun 94 12:07:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03277; Fri, 10 Jun 94 12:07:29 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA15809; Fri, 10 Jun 94 15:08:35 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA09928; Fri, 10 Jun 94 15:07:05 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 15:07:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: Unsubscribe - please To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Why is it that I send a mailer with the one subject line "unsubscribe" and the one body line "unsubscribe" and still get mailers from this mailing list. Please tell me if there is a way that I can get off the mailing list, so I can start enjoying the newsgroup. Thanks... **************************************************************************** ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 10 12:31:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25060; Fri, 10 Jun 94 12:31:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25508; Fri, 10 Jun 94 12:23:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25502; Fri, 10 Jun 94 12:23:06 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 10 Jun 94 12:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: flaam@ii.uib.no (Oeyvind Flaam) Subject: DOS Pine on top of TCP/IP LanManager Date: 10 Jun 1994 18:43:12 GMT Message-Id: <2tac80$f86@due.uninett.no> Is this possible ???? -- Oeyvind Flaam From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 10 13:23:53 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27097; Fri, 10 Jun 94 13:23:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04940; Fri, 10 Jun 94 13:15:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04934; Fri, 10 Jun 94 13:15:30 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 10 Jun 94 13:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Hitting space bar in mail index Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 12:05:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: This will be "fixed" in Pine 3.90. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 10 Jun 1994, Joshua Hosseinoff wrote: > Just a short (and easy to code) request. In the mail index If I hit the > space bar 4 times, and there are 3 screenfulls of email in the index, so > at the end of the 4th press of the space bar, shouldn't the highlight bar > be on the very last message in the index? Instead it's at the top of the > last page, and to get to the bottom I have to use the arrow key several > times. I think it's intuitive that the final press of the space bar > should put you at the very end of the index, not just the last screen of > the index. > Thanks > > Josh Hosseinoff -- hosseino@yu1.yu.edu > P.S. please cc the response to me as I only subscribe to pine-announce, > not pine-info. > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 10 13:24:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27140; Fri, 10 Jun 94 13:24:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04918; Fri, 10 Jun 94 13:14:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from relay3.UU.NET by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04910; Fri, 10 Jun 94 13:14:26 -0700 Received: from uucp5.uu.net by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP (rama) id QQwtsq13628; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 16:11:55 -0400 Received: from smc.UUCP by uucp5.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL ; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 16:11:54 -0400 Received: from sol.smc.com by smc.com (4.1/Standard-Microsystems-Corporation) id AA03324; Fri, 10 Jun 94 15:48:12 EDT Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 15:51:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Adams Subject: Re: Alternate-Editor on VT220 To: Jonathan B Horen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To invoke the alternate editor on a VT220 terminal use the ^/ key (Control-/) which sends out an octal 034. On a VT220, use the ^/ key in place of ^_ key within pine. This key should work if you are in VT220 mode with 7-bit control characters. _______________________________________________________________ Tom Adams Telephone: 516.435.6083 Standard Microsystems Corporation 35 Marcus Boulevard UUCP: uunet!smc!adams Hauppauge, NY 11788 Internet: adams@smc.com On Thu, 9 Jun 1994, Jonathan B Horen wrote: > Shalom! > > I work from home via modem from my VT220. Recently I decided to begin > using pine, rather than my favorite /usr/ucb/mail, so that I would be > better able to support our users. > > Well, things are fine at work -- there I run a pure X11R5 environment, > xterms (no SunStools stuff) -- and while composing mail I can press the > Ctrl-Shift-Underscore combination and get my Alternate-Editor (vi, of > course :) > > But back at the ranch it's a different story -- here, pressing Ctrl- > Shift-Underscore gets me nada... bupkis... gornisht... > > I run with my terminal emulating a "cita", because the vt-emulations > screw-up my listings and other things. But even if I set term=vt100, > I still cannot access my Alternate-Editor in pine. > > Anybody run into this problem? Anybody gotta solution? > > > ---------------------------horen@applicom.co.il--------------------------- > Jonathan B. Horen > Sr. System Administrator > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 10 13:28:25 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27298; Fri, 10 Jun 94 13:28:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05049; Fri, 10 Jun 94 13:20:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05043; Fri, 10 Jun 94 13:20:19 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA17979; Fri, 10 Jun 94 16:21:26 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA10161; Fri, 10 Jun 94 16:19:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 16:19:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: unsubscribe To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe pine-info **************************************************************************** ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 10 13:47:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28068; Fri, 10 Jun 94 13:47:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05520; Fri, 10 Jun 94 13:39:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from amis04.ami.alcoa.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05514; Fri, 10 Jun 94 13:39:14 -0700 Received: from SSW.ALCOA.COM by amis04.ami.alcoa.com with SMTP; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 16:38:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by SSW.ALCOA.COM (Soft*Switch Central V4L380P5) id 412441160094161FBTWCC02; 10 Jun 1994 15:22:15 GMT Message-Id: Date: 10 Jun 1994 15:22:15 GMT From: "Matt T. Simmons" Subject: Re: cc: mail interoperability To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Comment: MEMO 1994/06/10 16:35 It would probably be difficult to do, as cc:Mail seems to xmit messages in binary (as opposed to net-ASCII). About the only way to get a cc:Mail message into net-ASCII/SMTPable text is through a gateway... I doubt it would be possible to integrate pine & cc:Mail easily. Of course, there is always the possibility that I have absolutely no clue what I'm talking about... ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: cc: mail interoperability Author: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu at ~AMSCCSSW Date: 6/9/94 10:27 PM Could someone please send the specifications for cc:mail attachments to the authors of pine? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 10 14:33:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29955; Fri, 10 Jun 94 14:33:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28586; Fri, 10 Jun 94 14:25:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28580; Fri, 10 Jun 94 14:25:17 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 10 Jun 94 14:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: grendel@netaxs.com (Michael Handler) Subject: "!" shell escape in Pine 3.90? Date: 10 Jun 1994 20:24:49 GMT Message-Id: <2tai6h$3ud@netaxs.com> Will the next version of Pine (3.90) support command execution via "!" like Elm, Tin, Rn, and gazillions of other nifty *nix programs? Thanks. [ Hoping for "This will be added in Pine 3.90". ;) ] -- Michael Brandt Handler Philadelphia, PA PGP v2.6 public key on request From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 10 16:05:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03901; Fri, 10 Jun 94 16:05:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00959; Fri, 10 Jun 94 15:56:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from riscy.scott-scott.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00947; Fri, 10 Jun 94 15:56:50 -0700 Received: from [192.247.28.66] by riscy.scott-scott.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA11591; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 15:53:55 -0700 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 15:53:55 -0700 Message-Id: <9406102253.AA11591@riscy.scott-scott.com> X-Sender: dbird@rwbeck.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: flaam@ii.uib.no (Oeyvind Flaam) From: dbird@riscy.scott-scott.com (Donald Bird) Subject: Re: DOS Pine on top of TCP/IP LanManager Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: >Is this possible ???? > >-- >Oeyvind Flaam > > Yes, its possible. We have PC Pine 3.89 running and we are using LAN Manager 2.2. However, in order to get PC Pine to work we have to use an NDIS-to-packet driver like DIS_PKT.GUP, or a direct packet driver like the Crynwr 3C509.COM, to supply the packet driver that Pine requires. We haven't been able to get Pine to use the TCP/IP that comes with LAN Manager. We use both NETBEUI and TCP/IP in our environment and have gotten Pine to run on PCs that run both NETBEUI and TCP/IP as well as PCs with just TCP/IP. Just recently we had a problem printing Pine e-mail on network connected printers and determined that we needed NETBEUI installed and could not run with just LAN Manager's TCP/IP and whatever packet driver we needed for Pine. Hope this helps. *>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*> dbird@rwbeck.com <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<* ^ Donald W. Bird, Microcomputer Engineer R.W. BECK ^ ^ Phone: (206) 727-4674 2101 Fourth Ave. ^ ^ Fax: (206) 441-4962 Seattle, WA. 98121-2375 ^ *<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>*>* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 10 16:49:05 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05417; Fri, 10 Jun 94 16:49:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09818; Fri, 10 Jun 94 16:41:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09812; Fri, 10 Jun 94 16:41:25 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 10 Jun 94 16:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: plaws@comp..uark.edu (Peter Laws) Subject: Re: Suppressing mailing list names from header Date: 10 Jun 1994 23:10:57 GMT Message-Id: <2taru1$qg1@wizard.uark.edu> References: <1994Jun6.095839.5944@ivax> <1994Jun7.111416.4985@aber.ac.uk> syb3@aber.ac.uk (Simon Bradley) writes: >In article , Stephen Porter wrote: >>Not to seem, ungrateful for this response, but is there any other way. >>With any list more than a few names long, this would be very tedious, indeed. > Why? You just enter the nicknames the way you do in the To: >field. You don't have to enter the whole address if the person is in your >address book. As Simon says, "Why?" Have you not found the mailing list feature? I send out periodic mailings to two lists, each pushing 50 addresses, and no one ever sees screenfuls of addrresses. I put a bogus address in the To: field and then put the list name in the Bcc: field. As Nietzsche once said "RZFM!" :-) Peter Laws |"Let's make sure history never forgets the n5uwy@ka5bml.#nwar.ar.usa.noam | name ... Enterprise" ST:TNG - 1987-1994 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 10 17:08:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06449; Fri, 10 Jun 94 17:08:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02395; Fri, 10 Jun 94 17:00:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02389; Fri, 10 Jun 94 17:00:43 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 10 Jun 94 16:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rdm@netcom.com (Dick Moores) Subject: Re: pine & ^Z Message-Id: References: <2seiu4$og@ousrvr.oulu.fi> <2sga98$k9j@portal.gmu.edu> <2sge7i$jmm@altair.herts.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 23:21:55 GMT Crilly (cs2dw@herts.ac.uk) wrote: : Raymundo E Arras wrote: : >Hmmm Shouldnt pine accept this automaticly???? My does.. I can get : >out no problem with "control Z" Wonder why that happens to David...???? : That must be because your sysadmin have enabled that feature : for all users. Type `pine -conf` and look at the feature list. : You should find that "enable-suspend" is one of the features. : By default, ^Z is disabled unless setup otherwise in your own : .pinerc file or in the system-wide one. Or, there may be an alias alias pine pine -z in your .cshrc or .login (C-shell), possibly put there by your sysadmin. : Liam. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 10 17:44:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07523; Fri, 10 Jun 94 17:44:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03335; Fri, 10 Jun 94 17:37:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from stein.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03329; Fri, 10 Jun 94 17:37:20 -0700 Received: by stein4.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05134; Fri, 10 Jun 94 17:37:14 -0700 X-Sender: absweger@stein4.u.washington.edu Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 17:37:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew B. 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[WARNING: Bandwidth Conservation Act of 1994 automatically implemented] ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 10 18:08:05 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08127; Fri, 10 Jun 94 18:08:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11545; Fri, 10 Jun 94 18:01:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11539; Fri, 10 Jun 94 18:01:02 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 10 Jun 94 17:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vantage@ritz.mordor.com (Jason Guy) Subject: Re: Changing the highlite to an -> References: Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 00:17:46 GMT Message-Id: David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : Pine will use a "->" in the index if your tty speed is 2400 or below. If : you are dialing in through a terminal server, try "stty 1200" before : entering Pine. Or you can press the I key (capitalized, please) to toggle back and forth between inverse and the arrow. j. =============== Jason Anthony Guy - Information PackRat =============== = ( sable@echonyc.com )( vantage@ritz.mordor.com )( sable69@aol.com ) = ======================== "Challange the Assumption" - A very wise man = From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 10 22:46:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13644; Fri, 10 Jun 94 22:46:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08031; Fri, 10 Jun 94 22:37:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08025; Fri, 10 Jun 94 22:37:05 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 10 Jun 94 21:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pkramer@westie.mid.net (Paul Kramer) Subject: rimapd - imapd - imapdrc (huh?) Date: 11 Jun 1994 04:20:35 GMT Message-Id: <2tbe2j$bcp@noc1.mid.net> Howdy I think I have everything straight on imapd but what do I put in imapdrc? The tech notes mentioned an imapdrc file but I haven't seen what you write in it. Here is what I want to do. I want to put a mail file in this directory: /usr/local/data But I want everybody in the world to be able to read the letters in this mailbox. It is the same as when you get access to {pine.cac.washington.edu/anonymous} and you see those letters. I want to do the same thing but I don't know how. It seems that the correct syntax would be {hostname/anonymous}/usr/local/data/mailfile I have in the place the imapd server and the symbolic link rimapd, but after that I am not sure what to do. Paul -- Information Services Specialist Email: pkramer@mid.net MIDnet Phone: (402) 472-7600 (Main) 201 North 8th, Suite 421 Phone: (402) 472-0245 (Office) Lincoln, NE 68508 Fax: (402) 472-0240 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 11 02:13:07 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17604; Sat, 11 Jun 94 02:13:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10958; Sat, 11 Jun 94 02:07:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10952; Sat, 11 Jun 94 02:07:07 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 11 Jun 94 01:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsallen@rs6.tcs.tulane.edu (Jsallen) Subject: Inbox is readonly!? Date: 11 Jun 1994 08:25:46 GMT Message-Id: <2tbsea$72h@news.cs.tulane.edu> My inbox is claiming that it was "opened by another process" and that it is read-only. Therefore, I cannot delete my mail. Any ideas why? _________________________________________________________________ Jay Allen \ "If at first you don't succeed, \ University of Texas-Ex, 1993 \ lower your standards." ;) \ Tulane Medical School \__________________________________\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 11 03:58:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19607; Sat, 11 Jun 94 03:58:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20601; Sat, 11 Jun 94 03:52:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20595; Sat, 11 Jun 94 03:52:00 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 11 Jun 94 02:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: re: rimapd - imapd - imapdrc (huh?) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 02:23:53 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2tbe2j$bcp@noc1.mid.net> Paul Kramer - The best answer for the imapdrc file (which is now called by a different name) is ``if you don't know what to put in it, you don't need it.'' Trust me on this; it should be considered black magic that only sorcerers should delve into. [If I had my way, it wouldn't exist at all, but for a few very limited set of applications it was necessary.] Assuming that you have set up the IMAP server correctly so that you can log into it with your user name and password, the only thing needed to enable anonymous access is: touch /etc/anonymous.newsgroups At the present time the contents of this file is not checked in any way. You can not, however, use {hostname/anonymous}/usr/local/data/mailfile because anonymous access does not permit you to look at any arbitrary file in the filesystem. You have to consider the obvious security implications of {hostname/anonymous}/etc/passwd if such were permitted. But it isn't. The only files that you can get at from anonymous are netnews groups, in case you access them with a syntax such as: {hostname/anonymous}*comp.mail.pine or files which are in the ~ftp directory (that is, accessible to anonymous FTP). For example, {hostname/anonymous}*fred/blurdybloop will get the file ~ftp/fred/blurdybloop. Certain details of the above functionality will change in the IMAP4 version of the c-client based IMAP server. However, it will always be the case that only specifically enabled files will be accessible via anonymous IMAP access, because of security implications. Regards, -- Mark -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 11 08:06:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23969; Sat, 11 Jun 94 08:06:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15754; Sat, 11 Jun 94 07:58:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15748; Sat, 11 Jun 94 07:58:32 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 11 Jun 94 06:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brosme!ketil@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Ketil Hunn) Subject: Auto encryption/decryption? Date: 11 Jun 1994 13:40:28 GMT Message-Id: <2tcesc$2m7@trane.uninett.no> Is there a way to set up Pine to automatically encrypt and decrypt PGP messages? (Encrypt/decrypt mails sent/received IF they are listed in my pubring.pgp key? This feature is available on other platforms and makes life a lot easier handling crypted mails. with kind regards... Ketil Hunn ketil@dhmolde.no / ketil@hiMolde.no PS! Please, if someone have information/answers, send them directly to my e-mail address, since I'm not subscribing to this list. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 11 08:19:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24302; Sat, 11 Jun 94 08:19:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15950; Sat, 11 Jun 94 08:09:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15944; Sat, 11 Jun 94 08:09:15 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07586; Sat, 11 Jun 94 08:09:08 -0700 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 08:09:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Paul Kramer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: rimapd - imapd - imapdrc (huh?) In-Reply-To: <2tbe2j$bcp@noc1.mid.net> Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Paul, The ability to provide anonymous access to an arbitrary file is certainly a reasonable thing to do, provided that access can be constrained to just the intended files, which is why the present options to do this are so limited... However, we will be looking at this issue more closely before long, and may be able to come up with additional alternatives. One caveat on Mark's answer: the reason we have never announced that Pine and UW's IMAPd can be used to access anonymous ftp archives is that the user-visible name syntax WILL CHANGE later this year. Also, there are presently user-interface inconsistencies resulting from Pine thinking that these folders are newsgroups when they are not. So please don't use the facility unless you are willing and able to later change all the .pinerc files in your constituency that might embed the present name syntax. Do not assume that the present * syntax will be supported retroactively except for actual newsgroups. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 11 12:28:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02538; Sat, 11 Jun 94 12:28:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28931; Sat, 11 Jun 94 12:20:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28925; Sat, 11 Jun 94 12:20:05 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 11 Jun 94 09:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simon@midland.co.nz (Simon Lyall) Subject: Simple filter Date: 11 Jun 1994 16:41:33 GMT Message-Id: <2tcpft$56f@midland.co.nz> I am looking for a way redirect my mail into seperate folders for later reading with pine. I know this can be done with elm but I prefer pine and we dont have it here anyway. Basically all I want to do is put the mail from a mailing list into a seperate folder so I dont have it mixed in with my other messages. I don't think I can do this with pine but a simple stand-alone program would be okay. I have seen references to a program called 'filter' but I look around the ftp sites and archie draw a blank. Thanks in advance. -- Simon J. Lyall. | Lots of Jobs | Email - simon@midland.co.nz "Inside me Im Screaming, Nobody pays any attention. " | MT. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 11 14:05:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05655; Sat, 11 Jun 94 14:05:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22193; Sat, 11 Jun 94 13:57:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22187; Sat, 11 Jun 94 13:57:32 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 11 Jun 94 12:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Chelloveck) Subject: Re: JUSTIFY-ably dumb! Message-Id: <1994Jun11.134511.6976@pshrink.chi.il.us> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 13:45:11 GMT References: <2t5tjc$l9h@news.cs.tulane.edu> fyao@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Frank Yao) publicly declared: >Jsallen wrote: >> Does justify do anything BESIDES mess up your text? If so, >>what? I haven't been able to find out yet... > >Justify basically puts paragraphs back together so that if you add >something to your text afterwards, it will 'straighten' your lines >again. The problem is that it does that to all lines up to the next >blank line. If you are replying and justify with mail included, there >are no blanks lines (due to the > at the beginning of each line, and >it justifies everything. Wouldn't it be great if... The ^Justify command could be configured to use the internal algorithm or, alternately, to call an external paragraph formatter command. There's this really great Unix program called 'par' which works like an improved 'fmt'. It justifies your text, preserves indenting, does The Right Thing with ">quoted" text, etc. And wouldn't it be great if the dev team brought beer! :-) -- ------------------------------------------ "This paperclip will serve as an antenna, grabbing neutrinos from the cosmos and providing ignition for this craft." "Astonishing, Brain! Um, will it also roast marshmallows?" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 11 14:13:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05926; Sat, 11 Jun 94 14:13:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01009; Sat, 11 Jun 94 14:06:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01003; Sat, 11 Jun 94 14:06:00 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 11 Jun 94 12:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ricknie@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu (Rick Younie) Subject: Pico pronounciation Date: 11 Jun 1994 14:22:49 -0400 Message-Id: <2tcvdp$131@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> How do you pronounce Pico? I'm writing some on-line help for the editor and I've constantly got Peter Gabriel singing in my head to the tune of 'Biko', but I suspect it's a long 'i' as in Pine. Rick -- ----/---- rick@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca / The hours are good... although most rick@emma.panam.wimsey.com / of the actual minutes are pretty PGP key available / lousy. / - Douglas Adams, Hitchhikers Guide ----/---- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 11 14:13:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05946; Sat, 11 Jun 94 14:13:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22357; Sat, 11 Jun 94 14:06:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22351; Sat, 11 Jun 94 14:06:03 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 11 Jun 94 12:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pbarber@eskimo.com (Putnam Barber) Subject: Re: Is there a FAQ for PINE? Message-Id: References: Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 12:38:11 GMT carrollt@netcom.com (Terry Carroll) writes: >Anyway, is there a FAQ for PINE, aside from the man page? The .pinerc file is nicely self-documented (though often it will take just trying it to be sure of the effect of setting one of the suggested flags). Try reading that file ... I suppose you could even do it from +within+ pine by opening a dummy message and then using ^R and specifying .pinrc as the file to be read in. To change the flags though you'll need to edit the file in a way that doesn't put header info into the result -- pico, the editor that pine uses, will do the job if its available as a standalone on your system.... %pico .pinerc The familiar pine ^X is the way out. >Nice work, BTW. Agreed! Putnam Barber Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 11 14:41:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06932; Sat, 11 Jun 94 14:41:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01573; Sat, 11 Jun 94 14:34:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01567; Sat, 11 Jun 94 14:34:32 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 11 Jun 94 13:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jlewis@noao.edu Subject: Re: Simple filter Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <1994Jun11.194620.21780@noao.edu> References: <2tcpft$56f@midland.co.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 19:42:04 GMT In article <2tcpft$56f@midland.co.nz>, writes: [snip] > I have seen references to a program called 'filter' but I look around > the ftp sites and archie draw a blank. > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > Simon J. Lyall. | Lots of Jobs | Email - simon@midland.co.nz > "Inside me Im Screaming, Nobody pays any attention. " | MT. > Filter is distributed with the elm package... get elm and you will have the filter program Jeff Lewis jlewis@noao.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 11 15:19:07 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08205; Sat, 11 Jun 94 15:19:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23503; Sat, 11 Jun 94 15:11:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23497; Sat, 11 Jun 94 15:11:48 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 11 Jun 94 15:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rnurse@access.digex.net (Robert N) Subject: Automated Replies Date: 11 Jun 1994 17:51:32 -0400 Message-Id: <2tdbl4$rak@access3.digex.net> Is Pine 3.89 able to automatically reply with a prepared message when mail is received? -- ======================================================= | R A. Nurse / Germantown, Maryland | | rnurse@access.digex.net |:) | |-----------------------------------------------------| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 11 15:26:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08504; Sat, 11 Jun 94 15:26:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02451; Sat, 11 Jun 94 15:19:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from Krypton.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02443; Sat, 11 Jun 94 15:19:30 -0700 Received: from localhost (hayden@localhost) by krypton.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id RAA17103; Sat, 11 Jun 1994 17:25:09 -0500 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 17:25:09 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Re: Simple filter To: Simon Lyall Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2tcpft$56f@midland.co.nz> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 11 Jun 1994, Simon Lyall wrote: > I have seen references to a program called 'filter' but I look around > the ftp sites and archie draw a blank. Filter is a good program, but is included with the elm program source, so archie-ing for 'filter' won't do any good. instead, archie for elm, download it, compile it, and dump everything but filter. Several months ago, there was a push for the inclusion of filter in the pine source due to the impossibility of using archie to find it, but regretably that degraded into a elm vs. procmail vs. deliver flamewar and nothing was ever done. :( ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or Blue Earth County -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 11 18:29:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13295; Sat, 11 Jun 94 18:29:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05535; Sat, 11 Jun 94 18:21:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05529; Sat, 11 Jun 94 18:21:25 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 11 Jun 94 18:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tmeush1@umbc.edu (Tim Meushaw) Subject: Re: Automated Replies Date: 12 Jun 1994 01:05:47 GMT Message-Id: <2tdn1b$g9p@news.umbc.edu> References: <2tdbl4$rak@access3.digex.net> Robert N (rnurse@access.digex.net) wrote: : Is Pine 3.89 able to automatically reply with a prepared message when : mail is received? Yes. I don't know how to do it (it involves a .forward file), but I know it exists cause my Computer Science professor has one set up, and UMBC still uses 3.89. -- ------------------------ Timothy A. Meushaw (tmeush1@gl.umbc.edu) University of Maryland, Baltimore County "May whatever god you believe in have mercy on your soul." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 11 22:52:34 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17464; Sat, 11 Jun 94 22:52:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09204; Sat, 11 Jun 94 22:46:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09198; Sat, 11 Jun 94 22:46:02 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 11 Jun 94 22:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bkron@netcom.com (Kronos) Subject: Re: Automated Replies Message-Id: References: <2tdbl4$rak@access3.digex.net> <2tdn1b$g9p@news.umbc.edu> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 05:13:57 GMT >Robert N (rnurse@access.digex.net) wrote: >: Is Pine 3.89 able to automatically reply with a prepared message when >: mail is received? If you mean have the sender receive a message when their message is delivered, this is not related to Pine or any other mail program which is used by you only to access and handle the mail. It sounds like you just want to have a message returned to the sender "while you sleep." All you have to do is make a .vacation.msg file. Its contents are sent to everyone who sends you mail. For information about this, check the man by entering this command at your prompt: man vacation From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 11 22:52:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17485; Sat, 11 Jun 94 22:52:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29871; Sat, 11 Jun 94 22:46:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29865; Sat, 11 Jun 94 22:45:59 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 11 Jun 94 22:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: JUSTIFY-ably dumb! Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 22:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994Jun11.134511.6976@pshrink.chi.il.us> On Sat, 11 Jun 1994, Chelloveck wrote: > fyao@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Frank Yao) publicly declared: > >Jsallen wrote: > >> Does justify do anything BESIDES mess up your text? If so, > >>what? I haven't been able to find out yet... > > > >Justify basically puts paragraphs back together so that if you add > >something to your text afterwards, it will 'straighten' your lines > >again. The problem is that it does that to all lines up to the next > >blank line. If you are replying and justify with mail included, there > >are no blanks lines (due to the > at the beginning of each line, and > >it justifies everything. > > Wouldn't it be great if... The ^Justify command could be configured to > use the internal algorithm or, alternately, to call an external paragraph > formatter command. There's this really great Unix program called 'par' > which works like an improved 'fmt'. It justifies your text, preserves > indenting, does The Right Thing with ">quoted" text, etc. > Sounds interesting... Where can I get a copy? > And wouldn't it be great if the dev team brought beer! :-) > Ummm... You got that one backwards... :-) > -- > ------------------------------------------ > "This paperclip will serve as an antenna, grabbing neutrinos from the cosmos > and providing ignition for this craft." > "Astonishing, Brain! Um, will it also roast marshmallows?" > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 11 22:58:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17553; Sat, 11 Jun 94 22:58:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29962; Sat, 11 Jun 94 22:53:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29956; Sat, 11 Jun 94 22:53:20 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 11 Jun 94 22:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pico pronounciation Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 22:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2tcvdp$131@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> Well, since it is the PIne COmposer, a long 'i' would be reasonable, but around here we usually pronounce it peeko... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 11 Jun 1994, Rick Younie wrote: > How do you pronounce Pico? I'm writing some on-line help for the editor > and I've constantly got Peter Gabriel singing in my head to the tune of > 'Biko', but I suspect it's a long 'i' as in Pine. > > Rick > -- > ----/---- > rick@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca / The hours are good... although most > rick@emma.panam.wimsey.com / of the actual minutes are pretty > PGP key available / lousy. > / - Douglas Adams, Hitchhikers Guide > ----/---- > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 11 22:58:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17555; Sat, 11 Jun 94 22:58:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09337; Sat, 11 Jun 94 22:53:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09331; Sat, 11 Jun 94 22:53:23 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 11 Jun 94 22:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Automated Replies Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 22:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2tdn1b$g9p@news.umbc.edu> But the automated reply has nothing to do with Pine....... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 12 Jun 1994, Tim Meushaw wrote: > Robert N (rnurse@access.digex.net) wrote: > : Is Pine 3.89 able to automatically reply with a prepared message when > : mail is received? > > Yes. I don't know how to do it (it involves a .forward file), but I > know it exists cause my Computer Science professor has one set up, and > UMBC still uses 3.89. > > -- > ------------------------ > Timothy A. Meushaw (tmeush1@gl.umbc.edu) > University of Maryland, Baltimore County > "May whatever god you believe in have mercy on your soul." > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 12 00:12:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18719; Sun, 12 Jun 94 00:12:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00994; Sun, 12 Jun 94 00:07:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from svpal.mvhs.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00988; Sun, 12 Jun 94 00:07:49 -0700 Received: by svpal.org (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qCjJP-000EprC; Sat, 11 Jun 94 23:46 PDT Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 23:46:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Eduard L Frerking Subject: Pine to handle other than English Alphabet To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine people, I saw a news group item stating to write and put in a word of two for other than English Alphabet character version of Pine. I would like to see pine to use "UNICODE" or some other two byte character in messages. I do a lot of translations into Vietnamese and a romanization of Cantonese (Chinese Dialect). I am a school teacher and allow my students to E-Mail letters to worldwide friends. Some of the have been very creative to expression other culture ideasusing the English Alphabet for their words. It would bee much easier for them to use their language. Consider this another vote for Chinese and Vietnamese character sets in pine! Eduard Sunnyvale, CA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 12 01:40:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20755; Sun, 12 Jun 94 01:40:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02274; Sun, 12 Jun 94 01:37:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02268; Sun, 12 Jun 94 01:36:58 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 12 Jun 94 01:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hkusub!pcfong@beaver.cs.washington.edu ((| Malboro PC |) 8D) Subject: Re: Moving within a document Message-Id: References: <2t5tfs$l9h@news.cs.tulane.edu> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 08:04:04 GMT Jsallen (jsallen@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu) wrote: : : Are there any fancy ways to move within a doc. except ^Y and ^V? : Anything much like the nifty word processing programs where I can jump : from word to word or to the end of the line??? : : (I am running PINE 3.89 on a unix machine, vt100) I know from the help file that I can use F7/F8 keys for page up/down. The best way is of course to use the PAGE UP/DOWN KEY, but if not available, can I suggest that F7/F8 functions be implemented in PINE 3.90 or later versions. But can anyone tell me why I can't use the function keys F1 - F12 in PICO 2.3 which the help file said to be available. I'm using VT320 terminal with VT100 id. -- Malboro Fong Executive Officer, Development Services Section, The University of Hong Kong pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. Those who WATCH things happen. Those who WONDER what happened. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 12 07:26:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27212; Sun, 12 Jun 94 07:26:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06917; Sun, 12 Jun 94 07:22:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06911; Sun, 12 Jun 94 07:22:33 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 12 Jun 94 06:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mjbreen@gamera.syr.edu (Michael J. Breen) Subject: Pine Files on PCs Message-Id: <1994Jun12.132944.10010@newstand.syr.edu> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 13:29:44 GMT I get my mail on a Unix machine which I normally access by modem from my PC. At the end of each month I download my messages for that month to conserve space on my Unix account. Can anyone suggest a way of reading these messages on the PC which would allow me look at them as with Pine or an off-line reader? Thanks -- __________________________________________________________________________ | | | Em Jay Bee :-) "Taken to its extreme consequences, | | Michael J. Breen this individualism leads to a denial | | Syracuse University of the very idea of human nature." | | Veritatis Splendor #33 | |________________________________________________________________________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 12 07:44:34 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27455; Sun, 12 Jun 94 07:44:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16585; Sun, 12 Jun 94 07:40:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16579; Sun, 12 Jun 94 07:40:54 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 12 Jun 94 07:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: alan@papaioea.manawatu.planet.co.nz (Alan Brown) Subject: Re: Question: turning off file browser in pico? Date: 13 Jun 1994 01:12:45 +1200 Message-Id: <2tf1kd$6aq@papaioea.manawatu.planet.co.nz> References: <2t46oa$j2k@papaioea.manawatu.planet.co.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article , (| Malboro PC |) 8D wrote: >Alan Brown (alan@papaioea.manawatu.planet.co.nz) wrote: > >: I'd like to be able to disable file browsing and/or directory changing. >: (This is for a *nix BBS program using pico as the fullscreen editor) > > I think it's a security of unix rather than pico, so I would >suggest you to change mode [chmod] the relevant directories for suitable >users. Though it's not very constructive, I do hope it could solve your >problem. It's not really suitable in this case - because I'm using pico as an editor inside a bbs shell, everyone is user "bbs" to the system. However, I've received mail regarding doing this, and will summarize once I have all the details... -- AB alan@manawatu.planet.co.nz == alan@manawatu.gen.nz ~~ brown_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz Manawatu Internet Services, P.O.Box 678, Palmerston North, New Zealand From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 12 09:35:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29205; Sun, 12 Jun 94 09:35:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08574; Sun, 12 Jun 94 09:31:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08568; Sun, 12 Jun 94 09:31:41 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 12 Jun 94 09:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chermesh@techunix.technion.ac.il (Chermesh Ran) Subject: Piping a message to zmodem or kermit Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 15:49:00 GMT Message-Id: Hi, Piping is promised for the next pine version. Will it then include a possibility of sending a note directly to a pc through a zmodem or kermit protocol?? Ran -- Ran Chermesh E - M A I L Behavioral Sciences Dept. =========== Ben-Gurion University Internet: CHERMESH@BGUVM.BGU.AC.IL Beer-Sheva 84105 CHERMESH@BGUMAIL.BGU.AC.IL Israel Bitnet : CHERMESH@BGUVM.BITNET Phone: 972-7-472-057 Fax: 972-7-232-766 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 12 12:06:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01356; Sun, 12 Jun 94 12:06:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20066; Sun, 12 Jun 94 12:01:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20060; Sun, 12 Jun 94 12:01:24 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 12 Jun 94 11:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: raan@netcom.com (Ran Ever-Hadani) Subject: mail -v like behavior Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 18:25:38 GMT I have been using Pine for a while now, and I find it great. Before moving over to Pine, my standard mail agent was Mush with the -v flag on. This flag (which, I believe, is similar to the -v flag on ucb mail) would cause the mail agent to announce connection open, close and failure with the target machine, aliasing and .forward operations occurring, user not found (instead of getting a bounce) etc. . This gave me a nice hands-on feeling, which I like. Is there a way to get the same effect on Pine? I don't care if it will throw the screen out of sync, forcing me to ^L. Thanks -- Ran From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 12 13:36:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02973; Sun, 12 Jun 94 13:36:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11618; Sun, 12 Jun 94 13:33:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11612; Sun, 12 Jun 94 13:33:07 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 12 Jun 94 13:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: mail -v like behavior Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 12:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: That has not yet been implemented, but some recent restructuring in Pine would make it quite easy to do so.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 12 Jun 1994, Ran Ever-Hadani wrote: > I have been using Pine for a while now, and I find it great. > > Before moving over to Pine, my standard mail agent was Mush with the > -v flag on. This flag (which, I believe, is similar to the -v flag on > ucb mail) would cause the mail agent to announce connection open, close > and failure with the target machine, aliasing and .forward operations > occurring, user not found (instead of getting a bounce) etc. . > > This gave me a nice hands-on feeling, which I like. Is there a way to > get the same effect on Pine? I don't care if it will throw the screen > out of sync, forcing me to ^L. > > Thanks > > -- Ran > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 12 15:33:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05089; Sun, 12 Jun 94 15:33:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12993; Sun, 12 Jun 94 15:20:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12987; Sun, 12 Jun 94 15:20:50 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28954; Sun, 12 Jun 94 15:20:50 -0700 Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 15:20:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: mail -v like behavior In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The -v behavior (of ucb mail, don't know about mush) is just what you get by passing -v to sendmail. So, if we always called sendmail to send mail it would be easy to add -v. Unfortunately (as far as -v is concerned) there is also the smtp-server=some-server option. It would be a lot harder to do the verbose stuff when that option was defined. If we did it just for the sendmail case, we'd have an inconsistent UI. So, I don't think we'll be doing this any time soon. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Sun, 12 Jun 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > That has not yet been implemented, but some recent restructuring in Pine > would make it quite easy to do so.... > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Sun, 12 Jun 1994, Ran Ever-Hadani wrote: > > > I have been using Pine for a while now, and I find it great. > > > > Before moving over to Pine, my standard mail agent was Mush with the > > -v flag on. This flag (which, I believe, is similar to the -v flag on > > ucb mail) would cause the mail agent to announce connection open, close > > and failure with the target machine, aliasing and .forward operations > > occurring, user not found (instead of getting a bounce) etc. . > > > > This gave me a nice hands-on feeling, which I like. Is there a way to > > get the same effect on Pine? I don't care if it will throw the screen > > out of sync, forcing me to ^L. > > > > Thanks > > > > -- Ran > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 12 17:42:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07095; Sun, 12 Jun 94 17:42:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25395; Sun, 12 Jun 94 17:38:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25389; Sun, 12 Jun 94 17:38:04 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 12 Jun 94 17:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: casspa@efn.org (Paul+Penny Cass) Subject: TOF and EOF Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 23:37:45 GMT I have to send some long messages that involve reading files into Pine. For the life of me, I can't find a way to jump to the top or bottom of a message, while in compose, except tedious repetitions of ctrl-V and ctrl-Y. Am I missing something somewhere Penny From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 12 18:06:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07540; Sun, 12 Jun 94 18:06:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15234; Sun, 12 Jun 94 18:01:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15228; Sun, 12 Jun 94 18:01:28 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 12 Jun 94 17:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fyao@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Frank Yao) Subject: Re: Inbox is readonly!? Message-Id: References: <2tbsea$72h@news.cs.tulane.edu> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:15:38 GMT Jsallen wrote: > My inbox is claiming that it was "opened by another process" and >that it is read-only. Therefore, I cannot delete my mail. Any ideas why? Odds are that's exactly what's happened. This happens to me when I suspend a pine session and then forget about it and try to open a new one. This results in my having to close both session and start again. - frank -- ************************************************************************** * He who will not reason, is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; * * and he who dares not is a slave -- Sir William Drummond * ************************** Frank Yao, fyao@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca *** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 12 21:21:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10609; Sun, 12 Jun 94 21:21:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28407; Sun, 12 Jun 94 21:15:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28401; Sun, 12 Jun 94 21:15:28 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 12 Jun 94 20:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hkusub!pcfong@beaver.cs.washington.edu ((| Malboro PC |) 8D) Subject: Re: Automated Replies Message-Id: References: <2tdn1b$g9p@news.umbc.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 03:23:05 GMT Tim Meushaw (tmeush1@umbc.edu) wrote: : Robert N (rnurse@access.digex.net) wrote: : : Is Pine 3.89 able to automatically reply with a prepared message when : : mail is received? : : Yes. I don't know how to do it (it involves a .forward file), but I : know it exists cause my Computer Science professor has one set up, and : UMBC still uses 3.89. What Tim suggested is in fact to put your forwarding address in a file called .forward and your incoming mails will be routed to the new email address automatically. I think this does not involve PINE 3.89 at all. -- Malboro Fong Executive Officer, Development Services Section, The University of Hong Kong pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. Those who WATCH things happen. Those who WONDER what happened. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 12 21:33:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10781; Sun, 12 Jun 94 21:33:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17964; Sun, 12 Jun 94 21:26:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17958; Sun, 12 Jun 94 21:26:07 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 12 Jun 94 20:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: TOF and EOF Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Current versions of Pine do not have TOF/EOF, but the upcoming Pine 3.90 will. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 12 Jun 1994, Paul+Penny Cass wrote: > I have to send some long messages that involve reading files into Pine. For > the life of me, I can't find a way to jump to the top or bottom of a > message, while in compose, except tedious repetitions of ctrl-V and ctrl-Y. > > Am I missing something somewhere > > Penny > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 00:57:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14949; Mon, 13 Jun 94 00:57:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01516; Mon, 13 Jun 94 00:44:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01510; Mon, 13 Jun 94 00:44:01 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 00:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nerz@rummelplatz.uni-mannheim.de (Joachim Nerz) Subject: Re: Help with name in tin Date: 13 Jun 1994 06:34:39 GMT Message-Id: <2tgulv$oqh@darum.uni-mannheim.de> References: <2t9o5f$ej@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Douglas E.F. Helmreich (doughelm@umich.edu) wrote: : When I post in tin, my name appears as "Douglas E.F. Helmreich". Now, : while I'm thankful for my parents' indecisiveness in naming me, and to : bear the extra burden of 2 family names, I would rather the net's first : impression of me to be plain ol' Doug Helmreich. How can I change this? : I succeeded in editing my name file in .pinerc, but that doesn't seem to : work for tin. Will a solution require me knowing how the heck IMAP works? Tin get's your fullname from /etc/passwd. You can change your fullname on most UNIX-Systems with 'chfn'. Tin does not use IMAP in any way. bye Joachim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 01:14:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15917; Mon, 13 Jun 94 01:14:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02350; Mon, 13 Jun 94 01:05:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from leeman.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02319; Mon, 13 Jun 94 01:05:03 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by leeman.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <08006-0@leeman.york.ac.uk>; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:02:07 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for @leeman.york.ac.uk:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA21181; Mon, 13 Jun 94 09:06:55 +0100 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:06:54 +0000 From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell Subject: PINE enhancement request (fwd) To: Pine Developers Cc: Pine Info Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII A suggested enhencement to Pine from one of our staff... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 08:58:53 +0000 From: Peter Halls To: Mike Brudenell Subject: PINE enhancement request Please, would it be possible to submit this as an enhancement request? UNIX, VMS and other operating systems have 'environment variables' and 'logical names' which a user may set up to point to various structures and subdirectories as a sort of 'shorthand'. Sometimes these are used by systems administrators to avoid users having to know the full path for a file specification. PINE, unfortuneately, does not appear to accept the use of such file paths in the R file inclusion facility - a place where it would be very useful to be able to grab a file form a specific area (as I do from time to time with respect to my documenation arae, $DOC, which is short for /usr/peters/doc). Thanks, Peter -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Halls - University of York Computing Service - This message has the status of a private & personal communication -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 06:36:59 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23050; Mon, 13 Jun 94 06:36:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06954; Mon, 13 Jun 94 06:14:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06948; Mon, 13 Jun 94 06:14:26 -0700 Received: by ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17153; Mon, 13 Jun 94 09:14:22 EDT Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:08:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Schlitt Subject: Re: rimapd - imapd - imapdrc (huh?) To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'd go very slow on the idea of access to arbitrary files. You need to be very careful about the security aspects of this. It is a little sad to see the freaping creaturism that seems to be overtaking pine and its asociated programs like imap. Those folks who are concerned about security look upon any added complexity in a program as a potential security hole. A MUA that doesn't use privileges can be made relatively safe. But I'm not so sure about something like imap. But even with pine itself I am scared by some of the positive comments I hear about adding shell escapes and pipes. /dan -- Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 07:52:38 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24754; Mon, 13 Jun 94 07:52:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26509; Mon, 13 Jun 94 07:31:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26498; Mon, 13 Jun 94 07:30:58 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 06:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: doughelm@umich.edu (Douglas E.F. Helmreich) Subject: Re: Help with name in tin Date: 13 Jun 1994 13:46:15 GMT Message-Id: <2thnv7$g3c@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <2t9o5f$ej@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <2tgulv$oqh@darum.uni-mannheim.de> Joachim Nerz wrote: : Tin get's your fullname from /etc/passwd. You can change your fullname on : most UNIX-Systems with 'chfn'. : Tin does not use IMAP in any way. : bye : Joachim I've received a bunch of suggestions from quite a few people; thanks for allyour help (i'll try to e-mail you all). Anyway, for some reason, chfn does not work in my system. I tried to edit the etc/passwd file, but it would not let me save any changes to the file. I'll keep you posted. Doug From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 08:12:56 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25395; Mon, 13 Jun 94 08:12:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08769; Mon, 13 Jun 94 07:56:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08763; Mon, 13 Jun 94 07:55:59 -0700 Received: by ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19342; Mon, 13 Jun 94 10:55:56 EDT Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 10:48:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Schlitt Subject: Re: mail -v like behavior To: Steve Hubert Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Freaping creatureism! There seems to be this insane desire to peek at what is going on under the hood. While this sort of option is good for debugging problems it is not the sort of thing that needs to be used routinely. One could even make the argument that it reduces productivity of the user as they wait for smtp to do its thing instead of going on to real work. As you point out, you are looking at a MTA function and not a MUA function and making it work depends on the MUA-MTA interface. If you need to include it make it a debug option and put the output in the debug file. /dan -- Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 08:15:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25544; Mon, 13 Jun 94 08:15:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08815; Mon, 13 Jun 94 07:58:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08809; Mon, 13 Jun 94 07:58:22 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 07:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ggoff@rain.org (Greg Goff) Subject: Re: Help with name in tin Date: 12 Jun 1994 11:39:16 -0700 Message-Id: <2tfkok$ipn@rain.org> References: <2t9o5f$ej@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Douglas E.F. Helmreich (doughelm@umich.edu) wrote: > When I post in tin, my name appears as "Douglas E.F. Helmreich". Now, > while I'm thankful for my parents' indecisiveness in naming me, and to > bear the extra burden of 2 family names, I would rather the net's first > impression of me to be plain ol' Doug Helmreich. How can I change this? > I succeeded in editing my name file in .pinerc, but that doesn't seem to > work for tin. Will a solution require me knowing how the heck IMAP works? You need to change your finger information by invoking: passwd -f. You will then be prompted for your new full name. Old full name is the [default]. Good luck, Greg -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- .sig under construction /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 09:03:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27452; Mon, 13 Jun 94 09:03:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28135; Mon, 13 Jun 94 08:48:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28129; Mon, 13 Jun 94 08:48:53 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 08:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access1.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Re: Posting from PINE to Newsgroups Date: 13 Jun 1994 14:48:52 GMT Message-Id: <2thrkk$8je@news1.digex.net> References: <2t4ptq$c6i@nwfocus.wa.com> KIRO News Radio--Seattle (kiro@chinook.halcyon.com) wrote: : Help!!!! : I'm a DSNU (Dumbshit new user). : I can't for the life of me figure out how to post to the Newsgroups from : within PINE. : Yours in ignorance You can, in the interim, MAIL messages to a newsgroup using Pine, by using one of the gateways. For example, given a group called 'anews.group', here is how you would mail a message to be posted to it: Example This group anews.group.usenet@decwrl.dec.com comp.mail.pine.usenet@decwrl.dec.com or anews-group@cs.utexas.edu comp-mail-pine@cs.utexas.edu -- Reports on Security Problems: To Subscribe write PROBLEMS-REQUEST@TDR.COM Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net Voted "Largest Polluter of the (IETF) list" by Randy Bush Voted "Largest Polluter of digex.general" by Mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 09:04:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27765; Mon, 13 Jun 94 09:04:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10010; Mon, 13 Jun 94 08:42:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10004; Mon, 13 Jun 94 08:42:08 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11601; Mon, 13 Jun 94 08:41:47 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 08:41:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Dan Schlitt Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Security (Was rimapd - imapd - imapdrc (huh?)) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dan, We agree with your security concerns, which is why the imapd access facilities are so constrained. We have no plans for requiring Pine or imapd to run as privileged programs. There have always been some shell holes (e.g. for printing), and it's true, a Pipe cmd is coming in 3.90, but we're working on a way to disable these for sites that wish to. -teg On Mon, 13 Jun 1994, Dan Schlitt wrote: > I'd go very slow on the idea of access to arbitrary files. You need to be > very careful about the security aspects of this. It is a little sad to > see the freaping creaturism that seems to be overtaking pine and its > asociated programs like imap. Those folks who are concerned about > security look upon any added complexity in a program as a potential > security hole. A MUA that doesn't use privileges can be made relatively > safe. But I'm not so sure about something like imap. But even with pine > itself I am scared by some of the positive comments I hear about adding > shell escapes and pipes. > > /dan > > -- > > Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems > dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York > (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 09:14:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28424; Mon, 13 Jun 94 09:14:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10367; Mon, 13 Jun 94 08:57:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10353; Mon, 13 Jun 94 08:57:37 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 08:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pfeifeg@spot.Colorado.EDU (Gary Pfeifer) Subject: Pine for OS/2? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 13:23:50 GMT I thought I saw a message on this thread a while ago, but never saw an answer. First, is there a version of pine specifically for os/2? I don't care about a gui version: ascii is fine. Second, I see from this group that there is a version for DOS. Has anyone gotten it to work under os/2 with ibm tcp/ip (1.2.1 or 2.0) and its sendmail? Where can I get the DOS version? Thanks very much. -- Gary Pfeifer University of Colorado pfeifeg@spot.colorado.edu CB 108 Willard 210 (303)492-6743 Boulder CO 80309-0108 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 09:35:21 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29280; Mon, 13 Jun 94 09:35:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28902; Mon, 13 Jun 94 09:18:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28896; Mon, 13 Jun 94 09:18:47 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 08:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (Ed Greshko) Subject: Re: Inbox is readonly!? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 14:14:37 GMT References: <2tbsea$72h@news.cs.tulane.edu> Frank Yao (fyao@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca) wrote: : Jsallen wrote: : > My inbox is claiming that it was "opened by another process" and : >that it is read-only. Therefore, I cannot delete my mail. Any ideas why? : Odds are that's exactly what's happened. This happens to me when I : suspend a pine session and then forget about it and try to open a new : one. This results in my having to close both session and start again. You may have a pine process hung on your system. Do a ps to see if that is the case....and then kill it. This happens to me at times when I lose my SLIP connection. -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 11:12:37 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03575; Mon, 13 Jun 94 11:12:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13809; Mon, 13 Jun 94 10:59:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13803; Mon, 13 Jun 94 10:59:47 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 10:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dano@gate.net (Daniel P. Franco) Subject: Uploading files to mail Date: 13 Jun 1994 16:58:29 GMT Message-Id: <2ti37l$cp3@tequesta.gate.net> Any help on this one will be greatly appreciated. When I save an ASCII text file with Word 6.0 for Windows, and then upload to my host, I notice that the carriage return control sequence (^M) is present in my inserted file when I view it in PINE. The interesting thing is that some recipients of the mail get gibberish on their screens while others get the message intact. Could the ^M characters be responsible for corrupting the mail message? Is there a way to avoid editing my upload before inserting the file into PINE? Thanks in advance. -- ============================================ | Daniel P. Franco dano@gate.net | ============================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 11:58:16 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05921; Mon, 13 Jun 94 11:58:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15153; Mon, 13 Jun 94 11:47:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15145; Mon, 13 Jun 94 11:47:10 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 11:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: doughelm@umich.edu (Douglas E.F. Helmreich) Subject: Re: Help with name in tin Date: 13 Jun 1994 17:49:24 GMT Message-Id: <2ti674$hnr@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <2t9o5f$ej@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <2tfkok$ipn@rain.org> Greg Goff wrote: : You need to change your finger information by invoking: passwd -f. You will : then be prompted for your new full name. Old full name is the [default]. : Good luck, : Greg : -- I tried this, and it seemed to work, though it seemed reluctant to save the changes. I'm going to try my sysadmin. And I will never even look at the passwd file again. Doug From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 11:58:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05935; Mon, 13 Jun 94 11:58:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02476; Mon, 13 Jun 94 11:47:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02470; Mon, 13 Jun 94 11:47:08 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 11:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eratosth!calfeld@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Chris Alfeld) Subject: Re: Is there a FAQ for PINE? Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 14:18:00 GMT Message-Id: <1994Jun12.141800.9811@math.utah.edu> References: Terry Carroll (carrollt@netcom.com) wrote: : Subject line says it all. I'm new to PINE (in a previous incarnation, I : had a direct ethernet connection,and used my Mac as a mailer), and I'm : finding that a lot of things I want to know about are in this newsgroup, : including some things I want to know about, but didn't know I wanted to : know about, if you know what I mean. : Anyway, is there a FAQ for PINE, aside from the man page? I write guides to unix programs, among them pine. I also have a distribution list for receiving new guides via mail. If you would like to get the guides they can be reached via gopher at: leopard.east-slc.edu in Guides if you go from Mother of Gophers its: Other Gophers|N.America|USA|Utah|EastNet|Guides. If you want to subscribe to the distribution list send me mail at calfeld@east.east-slc.edu. -- -Chris (calfeld@math.utah.edu calfeld@east.east-slc.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 13:12:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09295; Mon, 13 Jun 94 13:12:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17380; Mon, 13 Jun 94 13:05:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17374; Mon, 13 Jun 94 13:05:33 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 12:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: df@christa.unh.edu (Daniel Ford) Subject: Re: Help with name in tin Date: 13 Jun 1994 18:46:09 GMT Message-Id: <2ti9hh$n70@mozz.unh.edu> References: <2t9o5f$ej@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <2tgulv$oqh@darum.uni-mannheim.de> <2thnv7$g3c@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> > I've received a bunch of suggestions from quite a few people; thanks >for allyour help (i'll try to e-mail you all). Anyway, for some reason, chfn >does not work in my system. I tried to edit the etc/passwd file, but it >would not let me save any changes to the file. I'll keep you posted. I've followed this discussion, tried chfn, was told that my login name was not in etc/passwd, and likewise was rebuffed when I tried to add it. When I do chfn, I get the name [Daniel Ford] and no office number or office or home telephone numbers. If I try to change any of these fields, I get the reference to /etc/passwd, round and around. -- - Dan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 13:13:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09315; Mon, 13 Jun 94 13:13:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04381; Mon, 13 Jun 94 13:05:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04375; Mon, 13 Jun 94 13:05:30 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 12:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pbarber@eskimo.com (Putnam Barber) Subject: Re: TOF and EOF Message-Id: References: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 12:55:06 GMT casspa@efn.org (Paul+Penny Cass) writes: >I have to send some long messages that involve reading files into Pine. For >the life of me, I can't find a way to jump to the top or bottom of a >message, while in compose, except tedious repetitions of ctrl-V and ctrl-Y. >Am I missing something somewhere When you're at the end of a message, you can use ^W with a as the search-string and search will wrap back to the top, usually the first line. Anywhere in the message, you can postpone (^O) and then restart composition. If I had this problem repeatedly, I would use pico (or some other editor) to put "bookmarks" into the long files that I planned to read in -- some unlikely combination of characters on a line by themselves... ::1, ::2, :: ...or the like -- so I could jump around conveniently and then use ^W:: ^K as many times as needed to get rid of them if I thought it rude to forward the file marked up in that way. Pine 3.90 sounds like it will be much better. Putnam Barber Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 13:19:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09627; Mon, 13 Jun 94 13:19:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04538; Mon, 13 Jun 94 13:12:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04532; Mon, 13 Jun 94 13:12:33 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 12:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: L.Crilly@herts.ac.uk (Liam) Subject: Re: Help with name in tin Date: 13 Jun 1994 18:36:12 GMT Message-Id: <413c2dfca7c7@altair.herts.ac.uk> References: <2t9o5f$ej@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <2tfkok$ipn@rain.org> <2ti674$hnr@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> If you're not allowed to change the information stored in /etc/passwd (which we are not) then use an environment variable to set your name. setenv NAME "Johnny Briggs" Will do the trick. Notice that my post is from "Liam", not "Crilly" as it is stored in /etc/passwd. -- 8"88"""8P"48"V"8 Liam Crilly 8"88"""8P"48"V"8 8 "88 88 " 8 8 L.Crilly@herts.ac.uk 8 "88 88 " 8 8 8oo8ooo8o8o8oYo8 http://altair.herts.ac.uk:8000/ 8oo8ooo8o8o8oYo8 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 13:20:25 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09665; Mon, 13 Jun 94 13:20:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17633; Mon, 13 Jun 94 13:12:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17627; Mon, 13 Jun 94 13:12:36 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 12:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ericr@access.digex.net (Eric Rosenberg) Subject: Problems w/3.89 + AUX Date: 13 Jun 1994 14:42:09 -0400 Message-Id: My system op is having troubles gettin 3.89 running under AUX. What happens is this... When you press after putting in an address, it asks you for the name of the attached file! It therefore won't take any names from the address book. The second anomoly is that if you type short (less than the entire page width) lines, PICO will try to fill the lines to their entire width by putting all the text together! Weird! If you can help, please email your ideas to ericr@vita.org and rmuffley@vita.org (Richard is the network administrator, I'm just keepig him honest before he leaves on a 5 week vacation on Thursday!). Thanks, Eric From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 14:02:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11280; Mon, 13 Jun 94 14:02:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05522; Mon, 13 Jun 94 13:53:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05516; Mon, 13 Jun 94 13:53:51 -0700 Received: by watsun.cc.columbia.edu id AA17421 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Mon, 13 Jun 1994 16:51:49 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 94 16:51:48 EDT From: Joe Brennan To: ericr@access.digex.net (Eric Rosenberg), rmuffley@vita.org, ericr@access.digex.net Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problems w/3.89 + AUX In-Reply-To: Your message of 13 Jun 1994 14:42:09 -0400 Message-Id: > When you press after putting in an address, it asks you for the > name of the attached file! It therefore won't take any names from the > address book. > > The second anomoly is that if you type short (less than the entire page > width) lines, PICO will try to fill the lines to their entire width by > putting all the text together! I believe your system sends control-J when you press the return key. Note that it is doing what control-J does. Maybe you can make it stop doing that, maybe not. We couldn't. You can solve the problem by hacking the code to make control-J do the same as control-M, and then reassign control-J commands to other keys. For pico you end up dropping something (we dropped spellcheck) to make room for justify (really fill-paragraph, as you describe). > If you can help, please email your ideas to ericr@vita.org and > rmuffley@vita.org (Richard is the network administrator, I'm just keepig > him honest before he leaves on a 5 week vacation on Thursday!). I will send this also to that address. Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York brennan@columbia.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 14:24:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12054; Mon, 13 Jun 94 14:24:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06097; Mon, 13 Jun 94 14:18:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06091; Mon, 13 Jun 94 14:18:38 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 13:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: AXLEROD@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu (Harvey Axlerod) Subject: PINE -k Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 17:47:44 GMT Hi there..... Sorry if this has been covered before, but i'm a newbie to Pine. In any event, we have a test version of Pine, and expect it to become our user mail agent. Whenever I try Pine -k to get function keys, it only recognizes F1-F4. (I am using an IBM PS/2 50 keyboard.) Any ideas/help? Thanks. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Harvey Axlerod, Sr. Programmer-analyst, User Services, Univ. at Buffalo axLErod@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu (716) 645-3570 FAX: (716) 645-3734 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 16:31:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17008; Mon, 13 Jun 94 16:31:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22520; Mon, 13 Jun 94 16:27:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22514; Mon, 13 Jun 94 16:27:10 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 16:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jaguar1@netcom.com (Glen Wooten) Subject: Re: Uploading files to mail Message-Id: References: <2ti37l$cp3@tequesta.gate.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 22:32:01 GMT : When I save an ASCII text file with Word 6.0 for Windows, and then upload : to my host, I notice that the carriage return control sequence (^M) is : present in my inserted file when I view it in PINE. : The interesting thing is that some recipients of the mail get gibberish : on their screens while others get the message intact. : Could the ^M characters be responsible for corrupting the mail message? : Is there a way to avoid editing my upload before inserting the file into : PINE? I assume that you're running this on a UNIX system? If you are, did you run the DOS2UNIX or equivalent command first? Otherwise, you can have errant ^M's in there. Check and see. -- jaguar1@netcom.com (alternate: g.wooten@genie.geis.com) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 16:58:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17988; Mon, 13 Jun 94 16:58:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23234; Mon, 13 Jun 94 16:51:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23228; Mon, 13 Jun 94 16:51:49 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 16:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Saving Automated Buffer? Date: 13 Jun 1994 22:24:11 GMT Message-Id: <2timab$605@nwfocus.wa.com> References: <2t5to9$l9h@news.cs.tulane.edu> jsallen@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (Jsallen) writes: > Is there any way, when using PICO in TIN, to make the automated >buffer save automatically instead of prompting me each time??? Why would >I want it to NOT save? If I don't save it, all it does is post a blank >screen! Yes, to avoid the save prompts use Pico in "tool mode," i.e., "pico -t". If you're using csh or tcsh you can set this in your .login with these two lines: setenv EDITOR 'pico -t' setenv VISUAL $EDITOR I hope this helps, Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 16:58:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18008; Mon, 13 Jun 94 16:58:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23211; Mon, 13 Jun 94 16:51:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23204; Mon, 13 Jun 94 16:51:19 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 16:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Automated Replies Date: 13 Jun 1994 22:54:59 GMT Message-Id: <2tio43$91o@nwfocus.wa.com> References: <2tdbl4$rak@access3.digex.net> <2tdn1b$g9p@news.umbc.edu> >>Robert N (rnurse@access.digex.net) wrote: >>: Is Pine 3.89 able to automatically reply with a prepared message when >>: mail is received? bkron@netcom.com (Kronos) writes: >If you mean have the sender receive a message when their message is >delivered, [...] > >All you have to do is make a .vacation.msg file. Its contents are sent >to everyone who sends you mail. For information about this, check >the man by entering this command at your prompt: > > man vacation If you want every message to get the auto reply then vacation is probably the best thing to use. If you only want some messages to get an auto reply then you'll want to use something like Elm's filter program and its executec command. Note that you don't need to be an Elm user to use filter. -Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 16:58:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18046; Mon, 13 Jun 94 16:58:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09423; Mon, 13 Jun 94 16:51:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09417; Mon, 13 Jun 94 16:51:16 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 16:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Mail directory Date: 13 Jun 1994 22:45:52 GMT Message-Id: <2tinj0$8es@nwfocus.wa.com> References: >David L Miller writes: > >Set "folder-collections=Mail/[]" in your .pinerc file. ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) writes: >If a new user who does not yet have a ~/Mail file uses pine with this set in >the global pine.cfg file, pine chokes. However because of long time use of >elm here we need to do this for compatibility. I have wrapped pine in the >following shell script: > > [deletial] Another thing you can do is link the Mail and mail directories. This allows you to forget about establishing settings for all the MUAs you may use. I regularly use elm, pine, and good ol' Unix mail and my life has been much easier since I linked these. If both already exist here's one way to set it up: 1] cd 2] mv mail mail.old 3] ln -s Mail mail 4] move folders from mail.old directory to Mail (aka mail) directory being careful to not destroy any folders that the same name, e.g., you could use: mv -i ~/mail.old/* ~/Mail I also have linked my News directory to my Mail directory (ln -s Mail News) so I can easily use newsreaders and MUAs to organize all my folders. Enjoy, Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 16:58:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18053; Mon, 13 Jun 94 16:58:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09439; Mon, 13 Jun 94 16:51:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09433; Mon, 13 Jun 94 16:51:40 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 16:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: ansiprt request Date: 13 Jun 1994 21:59:36 GMT Message-Id: <2tiks8$47k@nwfocus.wa.com> Hello Pine Developers, For the next release of Pine it would be great if you made the great little utility ansiprt as high profile as pico. Both of these are great standalone tools but currently most sites don't make ansiprt available on the default path. Thanks much, Nancy PS - Pine and Pico are the **best** MUA and editor for new users. I bet that soon you'll see all the zillions of Internet books recommeding them. And from what you've said I (a die-hard Elm user) may switch to Pine 3.90, but I'll stick with vi! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 17:08:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18887; Mon, 13 Jun 94 17:08:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09614; Mon, 13 Jun 94 17:01:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09608; Mon, 13 Jun 94 17:01:23 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 16:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dejal@iconz.co.nz (David Lambert) Subject: Folder seperators? Date: 13 Jun 1994 23:32:55 GMT Message-Id: <2tiqb7$icn@status.gen.nz> How does Pine tell where each message starts or stops within "folder" files? As far as I can see, each message is seperated only by "From " on a new line. I'd like to be able to split a folder into the component messages, but that doesn't seem like a particularly unique key. There don't seem to be any imbedded control characters or anything either. Thanks for your help. - David -- ... . . +----+ David Lambert : `. .. . .. : | DJ | dejal@iconz.co.nz : : :..: : ..: : | JD | dejal@deepthought.kiwi.gen.nz :..' `.. : `..: `. +----+ I love jellybeans! `..' From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 17:08:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18906; Mon, 13 Jun 94 17:08:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23546; Mon, 13 Jun 94 17:01:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23540; Mon, 13 Jun 94 17:01:25 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 16:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Simple filter Date: 13 Jun 1994 23:16:50 GMT Message-Id: <2tipd2$aja@nwfocus.wa.com> References: <2tcpft$56f@midland.co.nz> simon@midland.co.nz (Simon Lyall) writes: >I am looking for a way redirect my mail into seperate folders for >later reading with pine. I know this can be done with elm but I prefer >pine and we dont have it here anyway. Basically all I want to do is >put the mail from a mailing list into a seperate folder so I dont have >it mixed in with my other messages. I don't think I can do this with >pine but a simple stand-alone program would be okay. > >I have seen references to a program called 'filter' but I look around >the ftp sites and archie draw a blank. Your site may already have filter installed - type "which filter" to see if it shows up anywhere on your path. If it doesn't you can find it with the Elm sources (as others have pointed out). Here's what I did to have filter filter my mailing list messages: 1] Put the following in my ~/.forward: "|/usr/local/bin/filter -o /j/nancym/.elm/filter-errors" Note you do want to include the quotes and you want to replace /j/nancym with your home directory path and /usr/local/bin with the correct path for your system. Also on some systems you need to have your home directory world executable and the .forward world readable for this to work. 2] Put the following in my ~/.elm/filter-rules if (to contains "filmfest") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/INBOX.filmfest" if (to contains "seasigi") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/INBOX.seasigi" if (to contains "lynx-dev") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/INBOX.lynx-dev" if (to contains "www-talk") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/INBOX.www-talk" if (to contains "www-announce") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/INBOX.www-announce" 3] To test that the filter rules are syntactically correct type the following at your Unix prompt: filter -r 4] Regularly look at filter-errors to make sure things are working. See the filter man pages for more info. I hope this is helpful, Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 17:28:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19437; Mon, 13 Jun 94 17:28:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10174; Mon, 13 Jun 94 17:21:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10168; Mon, 13 Jun 94 17:21:38 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 17:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: btraven@escape.com (James O'Meara) Subject: Pine vs Mime Date: 13 Jun 1994 23:35:38 GMT Message-Id: <2tiqga$gj9@beyond.escape.com> I need to email a file as an attachment to someone whose says his system cannot handle mime encoding. Is there a way in Pine to do this? (I.e., the "normal" way doesn't work on his system: he can't read the attachment). Thanks Cordially, James O'Meara From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 18:32:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20801; Mon, 13 Jun 94 18:32:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11142; Mon, 13 Jun 94 18:25:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from max.tiac.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11136; Mon, 13 Jun 94 18:25:00 -0700 Received: (from cjwoods@localhost) by max.tiac.net (8.6.8/8.6.6.Beta9) id VAA25976; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 21:24:20 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 21:24:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Woods Subject: Re: Pine vs Mime To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2tiqga$gj9@beyond.escape.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 13 Jun 1994, James O'Meara wrote: > > > I need to email a file as an attachment to someone whose says his system > cannot handle mime encoding. Is there a way in Pine to do this? (I.e., > the "normal" way doesn't work on his system: he can't read the attachment). > > Thanks > > Cordially, > James O'Meara > Other than uuencoding the file, which can increase the actual size of the file by as much as 30% or more, I don't know of any other way to mail a binary to a non-mime-compliant recipient. Of course, you could have the recipient upgrade the mail system to something mime-compliant... Chris Woods----Customer Support----(617) 275-2221 The Internet Access Company--7 Railroad Ave.--Bedford, MA USA support@tiac.net-----help@tiac.net-----cjwoods@tiac.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 19:00:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21254; Mon, 13 Jun 94 19:00:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25623; Mon, 13 Jun 94 18:53:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25617; Mon, 13 Jun 94 18:53:10 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 18:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rak@netaxs.com (nobody special) Subject: Re: Folder seperators? Date: 14 Jun 1994 01:10:21 GMT Message-Id: <2tj01t$h4k@netaxs.com> References: <2tiqb7$icn@status.gen.nz> While there's probably a better technical answer on its way, you can always enter the folder and export individual letters as files. David Lambert (dejal@iconz.co.nz) wrote: : How does Pine tell where each message starts or stops within "folder" : files? As far as I can see, each message is seperated only by "From " on : a new line. I'd like to be able to split a folder into the component : messages, but that doesn't seem like a particularly unique key. There : don't seem to be any imbedded control characters or anything either. : Thanks for your help. : - David : : -- : : ... . . +----+ David Lambert : : `. .. . .. : | DJ | dejal@iconz.co.nz : : : :..: : ..: : | JD | dejal@deepthought.kiwi.gen.nz : :..' `.. : `..: `. +----+ I love jellybeans! : `..' From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 20:23:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22750; Mon, 13 Jun 94 20:23:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12665; Mon, 13 Jun 94 20:17:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12659; Mon, 13 Jun 94 20:17:11 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 19:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gussen@husc.harvard.edu (James Gussen) Subject: Extract & Prnt Whole Fldrs? Date: 13 Jun 1994 21:57:25 -0500 Message-Id: Does anyone know if it's possible to extract and print an entire folder from Pine, rather than extracting it one file at a time (this can get pretty tedious!)? Ideally, I would like to be able to extract a folder in order to download it and print it at home, since I always dial up across my modem, rather than using a terminal on campus (thus I'm not near an on-campus printer). A second-best solution for me would be one that involved going in to the computer center on campus in order to pick up my print-outs from the printer there. Thanks in advance for any and all help you might be able to offer! Jim Gussen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 20:23:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22754; Mon, 13 Jun 94 20:23:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26834; Mon, 13 Jun 94 20:17:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26828; Mon, 13 Jun 94 20:17:13 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 19:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: liamr@css.itd.umich.edu (Liam Hoekenga) Subject: Re: Help with name in tin Date: 14 Jun 1994 02:41:01 GMT Message-Id: <2tj5bt$15h@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <2t9o5f$ej@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <2tgulv$oqh@darum.uni-mannheim.de> <2thnv7$g3c@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <2ti9hh$n70@mozz.unh.edu> Doug, I think things will be a little different here at UofM... Your name is stored in a kerberos database, and isn't really that accessable by the average user. I guess I would try Liam's suggestion - boy, this feels weird to me... ;^) - of the environment variable. (I just tried it, and it worked.) Or, if you wanted to change it for real, everywhere, I think you'd want to send a message to x500@umich.edu detailing your problem / request. They're the people who actually change the database. hope this helps, Liam From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 20:55:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23332; Mon, 13 Jun 94 20:55:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27322; Mon, 13 Jun 94 20:47:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27316; Mon, 13 Jun 94 20:47:48 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 20:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Extract & Prnt Whole Fldrs? Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 20:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Most Pine folder formats are stored as plain text files, one per folder. Just download the whole file from your ~/mail directory... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 13 Jun 1994, James Gussen wrote: > Does anyone know if it's possible to extract and print an entire folder > from Pine, rather than extracting it one file at a time (this can get > pretty tedious!)? Ideally, I would like to be able to extract a folder in > order to download it and print it at home, since I always dial up across > my modem, rather than using a terminal on campus (thus I'm not near an > on-campus printer). > > A second-best solution for me would be one that involved going in to the > computer center on campus in order to pick up my print-outs from the > printer there. > > Thanks in advance for any and all help you might be able to offer! > > Jim Gussen > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 20:55:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23355; Mon, 13 Jun 94 20:55:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13100; Mon, 13 Jun 94 20:47:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13094; Mon, 13 Jun 94 20:47:45 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 20:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Folder seperators? Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 20:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2tiqb7$icn@status.gen.nz> For the default Berkely folder format used by most Unix systems, the separator is indeed the line that begins "From ". Pine does check to see that the rest of the line looks reasonable, but not all mail programs do. That is why you will sometimes see a "From " at the beginning of a line converted to ">From "... There are alternate formats that Pine understands that do not have that problem, but other mail tools do not understand them. --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 13 Jun 1994, David Lambert wrote: > How does Pine tell where each message starts or stops within "folder" > files? As far as I can see, each message is seperated only by "From " on > a new line. I'd like to be able to split a folder into the component > messages, but that doesn't seem like a particularly unique key. There > don't seem to be any imbedded control characters or anything either. > > Thanks for your help. > > - David > > -- > > ... . . +----+ David Lambert > : `. .. . .. : | DJ | dejal@iconz.co.nz > : : :..: : ..: : | JD | dejal@deepthought.kiwi.gen.nz > :..' `.. : `..: `. +----+ I love jellybeans! > `..' > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 21:08:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23649; Mon, 13 Jun 94 21:08:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13290; Mon, 13 Jun 94 21:01:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13284; Mon, 13 Jun 94 21:01:14 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 20:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: szagar@unixg.ubc.ca (Suzan Zagar) Subject: Re: Automated Replies Date: 14 Jun 1994 03:39:38 GMT Message-Id: <2tj8pq$t2f@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <2tdbl4$rak@access3.digex.net> <2tdn1b$g9p@news.umbc.edu> <2tio43$91o@nwfocus.wa.com> Nancy McGough (nancym@ii.com) wrote: : If you want every message to get the auto reply then vacation is : probably the best thing to use. If you only want some messages : to get an auto reply then you'll want to use something like : Elm's filter program and its executec command. Note that you : don't need to be an Elm user to use filter. : -Nancy How do I get/use Elm's filter and executec command. I have not used Elm, although it is available on my unix system. How does "filter" determine which messages to reply to???--the subject, mail alias, content??? I would be interested in such a setup for replying to requests for certain publications which reside in my account. I would be interested in a few more details on this setup. Thanks! Suzan Zagar szagar@unixg.ubc.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 21:32:37 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24197; Mon, 13 Jun 94 21:32:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27920; Mon, 13 Jun 94 21:25:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27914; Mon, 13 Jun 94 21:25:41 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 21:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tompkins@netcom.com (David Tompkins) Subject: Attachments How? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 03:58:24 GMT Would one of you kind soles share with me just how do I get a file attached? Let's say I compose a letter but use my regular word processor because I will from time to time want to send to different persons. Let's say it (the letter) is on a floppy. How do I get it and attach it so it can go in to the big super highway? What about this code thing? If I send to say someone on Prodigy or America Online will they be able to read? Is there something I can do so they can. I'll just be sending text, no graphics etc. at this time. Need to walk before I can run! Thank You I appreciate your time. -- Dave "In The Valley" San Jose From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 22:18:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25387; Mon, 13 Jun 94 22:18:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14228; Mon, 13 Jun 94 22:09:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14222; Mon, 13 Jun 94 22:09:42 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 21:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fyao@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Frank Yao) Subject: Re: Uploading files to mail Message-Id: References: <2ti37l$cp3@tequesta.gate.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 04:25:54 GMT Daniel P. Franco wrote: > >When I save an ASCII text file with Word 6.0 for Windows, and then upload >to my host, I notice that the carriage return control sequence (^M) is >present in my inserted file when I view it in PINE. Assuming that you are using Unix, you should do a: dos2unix dosfile > newfile before unloading it. This should eliminate the ^M's. - frank -- ************************************************************************** * He who will not reason, is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; * * and he who dares not is a slave -- Sir William Drummond * ************************** Frank Yao, fyao@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca *** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 23:19:13 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26592; Mon, 13 Jun 94 23:19:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29846; Mon, 13 Jun 94 23:12:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29840; Mon, 13 Jun 94 23:12:47 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 22:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harri906@raven.csrv.uidaho.edu (Harrington) Subject: First New message/Last new message Date: 14 Jun 1994 05:39:21 GMT Message-Id: <2tjfq9$dkj@owl.csrv.uidaho.edu> Hey, I'm having this problem that if I get 25 new email messages, and get into pine...it highlights the LAST of those, instead of the first.... I am on a 1200 baud ...so that stinks. I looked in the .pinerc but didn't see anything that seems to be doing it... any ideas? Thankx! Dan Harrington From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 13 23:37:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26923; Mon, 13 Jun 94 23:37:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15324; Mon, 13 Jun 94 23:29:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15318; Mon, 13 Jun 94 23:29:07 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 13 Jun 94 23:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: grc@gate.net (George Chamberlin in Sunny South Florida) Subject: Re: Uploading files to mail Date: 14 Jun 1994 06:08:11 GMT Message-Id: <2tjhgb$ltr@tequesta.gate.net> References: <2ti37l$cp3@tequesta.gate.net> Daniel P. Franco (dano@gate.net) wrote: =Any help on this one will be greatly appreciated. =When I save an ASCII text file with Word 6.0 for Windows, and then upload =to my host, I notice that the carriage return control sequence (^M) is =present in my inserted file when I view it in PINE. =Is there a way to avoid editing my upload before inserting the file into =PINE? Daniel, Don't think so. Try this. KORN SHELL (ksh) Getting rid of ^M's in ascii (text) files in your UNIX directories. Put this function is in your .kshrc file (or .profile file). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- clean() #take text (ascii) file from DOS and strip ^M { # (carriage return) from end of lines. tr -d '\r' < $1 > tmp #use temporary file, then mv -f tmp $1 #replace original file with stripped file tput smso #turn on inverse echo $1 " has been stripped of ^M's" #and say so tput sgr0 #turn off inverse } ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- At the $ prompt type clean filename . Or just use tr -d '\r' < oldfile > cleanedfile , each time. (This function is in /tmp as "clean.fun" on Cybergate) George | Je compute, donc je suis (at least I think so). | RUDY, the Wrestling |__ grc@gate.net __ Gateway Users International __| Inventor, says 'HELLO' Chances are that if your parents didn't have any children, neither will you. You can't cheat an honest man. -W C fields From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 14 08:35:53 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09203; Tue, 14 Jun 94 08:35:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08807; Tue, 14 Jun 94 08:20:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08801; Tue, 14 Jun 94 08:20:04 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 14 Jun 94 08:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: feeseb@centre.edu (Ben T. Feese) Subject: Re: Pine Files on PCs Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 18:16:20 GMT References: <1994Jun12.132944.10010@newstand.syr.edu> Michael J. Breen (mjbreen@gamera.syr.edu) wrote: >"I get my mail on a Unix machine which I normally access by modem from my >"PC. At the end of each month I download my messages for that month to >"conserve space on my Unix account. Can anyone suggest a way of reading >"these messages on the PC which would allow me look at them as with Pine >"or an off-line reader? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have precisely the same need. In addition I would like to have some way of automatically *indexing* articles as they are stored in a *database* which could be efficiently searched at a later time. I am finding that I am accumulating hundreds of articles in dozens of different folders corresponding to different mailing lists and newsgroups. Already I am spending much time trying to track down particular records. I can scan a folder with a viewer such as pg, but it is a bit awkward, and it does not allow for very sophisticated searching. Nor does such a viewer incorporate mailer functions so that I can reply, forward, etc. to a saved article once I find it. Does anyone know of a product or products which might meet some of these criteria? ============================================================================= Ben T. Feese Professor of Biology Biochemistry/Molecular Biology Program Centre College, Danville, KY 40422 (USA) Internet: feeseb@centre.edu Phone: (606) 238-5318 FAX: (606) 236-7925 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 14 08:42:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09480; Tue, 14 Jun 94 08:42:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23467; Tue, 14 Jun 94 08:30:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23460; Tue, 14 Jun 94 08:30:10 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 14 Jun 94 08:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kevink@efn.org (Kevin King) Subject: Re: Pine vs Mime Message-Id: References: <2tiqga$gj9@beyond.escape.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 07:27:07 GMT instead of (^J)attaching the file, just (^R)read the file into the message. non-mime mail readers do not compute the attached files(ones that you have to (V)view from PINE. James O'Meara (btraven@escape.com) wrote: : I need to email a file as an attachment to someone whose says his system : cannot handle mime encoding. Is there a way in Pine to do this? (I.e., : the "normal" way doesn't work on his system: he can't read the attachment). : Thanks : Cordially, : James O'Meara From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 14 08:42:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09508; Tue, 14 Jun 94 08:42:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09058; Tue, 14 Jun 94 08:30:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09052; Tue, 14 Jun 94 08:30:14 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 14 Jun 94 08:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kevink@efn.org (Kevin King) Subject: Re: Extract & Prnt Whole Fldrs? Message-Id: References: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 07:32:22 GMT If you have a shell access goto your ~/Mail dir and type "ll" to see what files you have in the directory(they should be same as your folders in PINE). now you can D/L the file/folder or you can view the file by either typing: more INBOX or pico INBOX (to view your INBOX) all the folders located in your ~/Mail are VERY readable.. kevink James Gussen (gussen@husc.harvard.edu) wrote: : Does anyone know if it's possible to extract and print an entire folder : from Pine, rather than extracting it one file at a time (this can get : pretty tedious!)? Ideally, I would like to be able to extract a folder in : order to download it and print it at home, since I always dial up across : my modem, rather than using a terminal on campus (thus I'm not near an : on-campus printer). : A second-best solution for me would be one that involved going in to the : computer center on campus in order to pick up my print-outs from the : printer there. : Thanks in advance for any and all help you might be able to offer! : Jim Gussen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 14 09:12:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11120; Tue, 14 Jun 94 09:12:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24113; Tue, 14 Jun 94 09:00:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24107; Tue, 14 Jun 94 09:00:45 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 14 Jun 94 08:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wells@pangea.usask.ca (Sean Wells) Subject: VMS Pine, sent mail to folder Date: 14 Jun 1994 15:03:16 GMT Message-Id: <2tkgrk$rk@tribune.usask.ca> We are running VMS Pine 3.89, and are trying to use it for our DCS Help Desk. We need to keep track of all of our outgoing mail, so using VMS Mail we had to send a CC to ourselves, then read the new message and move it to the LOG (folder). Now that we have Pine, I tried to set the default-fcc= in the pine.pinerc file to LOG, as this would save us a lot of time shuffling messages. Now comes the problem: The messages that get moved to the LOG folder this way completely lose their To: and Subject: lines on the Index display, and as such are completely useless as references. Am I doing something wrong, or do we have to go back to the CC self thing again? Any help would be appreciated. Sean Wells The Help Desk University of Saskatchewan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 14 09:18:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11420; Tue, 14 Jun 94 09:18:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10254; Tue, 14 Jun 94 09:10:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10243; Tue, 14 Jun 94 09:10:03 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 14 Jun 94 09:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dragon@csulb.edu (Brian Lo) Subject: pine message system Date: 14 Jun 1994 15:16:58 GMT Message-Id: <2tkhla$cio@garuda.csulb.edu> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 14 10:52:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15100; Tue, 14 Jun 94 10:52:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12747; Tue, 14 Jun 94 10:40:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12741; Tue, 14 Jun 94 10:40:30 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 14 Jun 94 10:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: df@christa.unh.edu (Daniel Ford) Subject: Re: Pine Files on PCs Date: 14 Jun 1994 11:13:07 GMT Message-Id: <2tk3c3$6aa@mozz.unh.edu> References: <1994Jun12.132944.10010@newstand.syr.edu> I use "Lookfor" to read documents that come with shareware. It works equally well with WordStar files. It's small. Should be available at the usual ftp sites e.g. oak.oakland.edu. -- - Dan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 14 11:31:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17021; Tue, 14 Jun 94 11:31:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13946; Tue, 14 Jun 94 11:23:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from usc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13940; Tue, 14 Jun 94 11:23:19 -0700 Received: from Law.USC.EDU by usc.edu (4.1/SMI-3.0DEV3-USC+3.1) id AA05824; Tue, 14 Jun 94 11:23:18 PDT Received: from hal.Law.USC.EDU by Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05662; Tue, 14 Jun 94 11:23:17 PDT Received: by hal.Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11181; Tue, 14 Jun 94 11:23:16 PDT Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 11:23:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Elmar Kurgpold Subject: Post and read on different machines in 3.90? To: Pine Info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When 3.90 is released, will it be possible to read news from one machine and post news to another? ------------------------------------- ,-,,-, __ | Elmar Kurgpold | ______/ /_,' | | Network Administrator | \________________/ | University of Southern California | |\) (/ | | The Law Center | ( | oo | "My mind has wandered | ekurgpol@Law.USC.EDU | ) `| |--' from the flock, you see | (213)740-2571 FAX: (213)740-5502 | (___^^^^| And the flock has ------------------------------------- (____' wandered away from me" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 14 11:43:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17645; Tue, 14 Jun 94 11:43:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14383; Tue, 14 Jun 94 11:37:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from usc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14377; Tue, 14 Jun 94 11:37:09 -0700 Received: from Law.USC.EDU by usc.edu (4.1/SMI-3.0DEV3-USC+3.1) id AA06218; Tue, 14 Jun 94 11:36:59 PDT Received: from hal.Law.USC.EDU by Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05705; Tue, 14 Jun 94 11:36:58 PDT Received: by hal.Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11456; Tue, 14 Jun 94 11:36:57 PDT Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 11:36:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Elmar Kurgpold Subject: Re: JUSTIFY-ably dumb! To: "Jay B. Parker" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2t8bmg$t2q@Ra.MsState.Edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 9 Jun 1994, Jay B. Parker wrote: > +--- Jsallen writes: > | Does justify do anything BESIDES mess up your text? If so, > | what? I haven't been able to find out yet... > > Hmm... I admit that it's not the greatest algorithm in the world, but it > works rather well for me. (The only problem I have is with sentences with > the ending punctuation enclosed by parentheses, as this one is.) [It would > be nice if it would preserve my double-spaces after parens, braces, '<>', > etc.] Just an op... In regards to this last comment-- Yeah, I agree with this one too, it always squashes the spaces after parens, which crowds your smileys. ;-) As regards to the first comment, try writing a message with paragraphs. Either separate them with a blank line, like my 2 paragraphs here, or begin each one with blank space (tab). The Justify function will clean them up quite nicely, especially if you have a tendency to go back and edit your text a lot. ------------------------------------- ,-,,-, __ | Elmar Kurgpold | ______/ /_,' | | Network Administrator | \________________/ | University of Southern California | |\) (/ | | The Law Center | ( | oo | "My mind has wandered | ekurgpol@Law.USC.EDU | ) `| |--' from the flock, you see | (213)740-2571 FAX: (213)740-5502 | (___^^^^| And the flock has ------------------------------------- (____' wandered away from me" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 14 13:38:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22475; Tue, 14 Jun 94 13:38:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00624; Tue, 14 Jun 94 13:31:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00618; Tue, 14 Jun 94 13:31:39 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 14 Jun 94 13:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chas@festival.ed.ac.uk (C Spencer) Subject: Re: Pico pronounciation References: Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 13:31:23 GMT David L Miller writes: >Well, since it is the PIne COmposer, a long 'i' would be reasonable, but >around here we usually pronounce it peeko... >|\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 >|/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) >University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 >4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA And somebody here told me that it was called 'pico' because it was even smaller than Micro-Emacs. Sheesh. Chas From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 14 14:29:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24114; Tue, 14 Jun 94 14:29:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01763; Tue, 14 Jun 94 14:24:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01757; Tue, 14 Jun 94 14:24:05 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 14 Jun 94 14:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsallen@rs4.tcs.tulane.edu (Jay Allen) Subject: Mail-folder-collection Date: 14 Jun 1994 17:23:31 GMT Message-Id: <2tkp2j$hv9@news.cs.tulane.edu> What is the proper syntax for mail-folder-collection in the .pinerc? I seem to have deleted something.. I have tried mail-folder-collection =mail/[] (or whatever it is) =mail/[]] =mail/ =mail/[ ] It keeps telling me that there is no [ (or ]?) in context: []] And of course I can't get into my mail folders. I know it was very similar to that before. I am running Unix with PINE 3.89. Thanx in advance. Sail Fast-- _________________________________________________________________ Jay Allen \ "If at first you don't succeed, \ University of Texas-Ex, 1993 \ lower your standards." ;) \ Tulane Medical School \__________________________________\ Southeastern Intercollegiate Sailing Assoc. Executive Vice-President La oro te natura | Nature lives E mea arofa teie ao nei | Love the Earth Ua oau te maitai no te fenua | The bounty of the land is exausted Te vai noa ra te ora o te mitie | But there is still abundance in the seas (Buffett) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 14 14:48:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24863; Tue, 14 Jun 94 14:48:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02185; Tue, 14 Jun 94 14:43:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02179; Tue, 14 Jun 94 14:43:45 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 14 Jun 94 14:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fullmer@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert Fullmer) Subject: Saving several messages to a folder simultaneously Date: 14 Jun 94 11:49:16 Message-Id: Is there any way to do this in pine? Mark or group them in some way, and then dump them as a lot in a folder? There doesn't seem to be a FAQ for this group; I did look for one. Mail or posted replies are both fine. If I get an answer via email, I'll post it. Rob F Rice U From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 14 14:49:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24921; Tue, 14 Jun 94 14:49:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19151; Tue, 14 Jun 94 14:43:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19141; Tue, 14 Jun 94 14:43:41 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 14 Jun 94 14:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wells@pangea.usask.ca (Sean Wells) Subject: Re: Can TIN use PINE to send messages? Date: 14 Jun 1994 14:28:31 GMT Message-Id: <2tkeqf$rk@tribune.usask.ca> References: <2sjg4n$o25@news.bu.edu> : : Go into the .tin directory and edit the tinrc file and file the : : default_editor_format and change it to default_editor_format=pico +%N %F : : I hope this is what you are asking for and am not sure what you mean by : : other features. : I tried this, and when I followup or reply to a post, the status line at : the top of the screen says: "UW PICO 2.3", the functionality doesn't : seem any different, i.e., I can't get to my address book, or save the : messages in any of my folders. Can it be set up to do so? : -Steve Porter- Go into your .cshrc file and add the following two lines: setenv VISUAL pico setenv EDITOR pico This will change your default editor to pico, no matter what programme you are running. This is assuming your site is running some version of UNIX (we have Ultrix V4.4 Rev. 69), but I assume this will work for most UNIX sites. Sean University of Saskatchewan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 14 15:16:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25959; Tue, 14 Jun 94 15:16:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19862; Tue, 14 Jun 94 15:11:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19856; Tue, 14 Jun 94 15:11:45 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 14 Jun 94 14:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: carlos@marin.cc.ca.us (Carlos Robinson) Subject: Re: Posting from PINE to Newsgroups Message-Id: References: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 00:51:28 GMT David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : Don't feel so bad. News posting is not available yet. Pine 3.90 will : support it though... : |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 : |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) : University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 : 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA I hope it faster when reading News too. -carlos -- # Carlos Robinson College of Marin # # Science Computer Center Kentfield, CA 94904 # # Ph: (415) 485-9540 carlos@marin.cc.ca.us # # Email: ...!{uunet,ames,decwrl}!marin.cc.ca.us!carlos # From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 14 15:17:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25997; Tue, 14 Jun 94 15:17:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02833; Tue, 14 Jun 94 15:13:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02827; Tue, 14 Jun 94 15:13:55 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 14 Jun 94 15:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schake@tesuque.cs.sandia.gov (Stefan Chakerian) Subject: Re: mail -v like behavior Date: 14 Jun 1994 12:04:45 -0600 Message-Id: <2tkrft$j50@tesuque.cs.sandia.gov> References: Dan Schlitt wrote: >There seems to be this insane desire to peek at what is going on under the >hood. While this sort of option is good for debugging problems it is not >the sort of thing that needs to be used routinely. For local mail, it is as good as (or perhaps better than) a return receipt. stef -- Stefan Chakerian Good, fast, cheap. Pick two. schake@tesuque.cs.sandia.gov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 14 17:11:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01152; Tue, 14 Jun 94 17:11:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05048; Tue, 14 Jun 94 17:03:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05038; Tue, 14 Jun 94 17:03:25 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20285; Tue, 14 Jun 94 17:03:08 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 17:03:08 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Mike Brudenell Cc: Pine Developers , Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: PINE enhancement request (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Unfortunately expanding environment variables this way confilicts with the opposing requirement to pass '$' through to VMS based servers which rely on the '$' in file names... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 13 Jun 1994, Mike Brudenell wrote: > A suggested enhencement to Pine from one of our staff... > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 08:58:53 +0000 > From: Peter Halls > To: Mike Brudenell > Subject: PINE enhancement request > > Please, would it be possible to submit this as an enhancement request? > > UNIX, VMS and other operating systems have 'environment variables' and > 'logical names' which a user may set up to point to various structures > and subdirectories as a sort of 'shorthand'. Sometimes these are used by > systems administrators to avoid users having to know the full path for a > file specification. > > PINE, unfortuneately, does not appear to accept the use of such file > paths in the R file inclusion facility - a place where it would be > very useful to be able to grab a file form a specific area (as I do from > time to time with respect to my documenation arae, $DOC, which is short > for /usr/peters/doc). > > Thanks, > > Peter > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Peter Halls - University of York Computing Service - > This message has the status of a private & personal communication > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 14 17:20:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01349; Tue, 14 Jun 94 17:20:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05403; Tue, 14 Jun 94 17:13:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05397; Tue, 14 Jun 94 17:13:28 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 14 Jun 94 17:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chrisbib@umich.edu (Christopher Martin Bibbs) Subject: Test of the pico as editor mentioned in a previous article Date: 14 Jun 1994 19:26:54 GMT Message-Id: <2tl09u$641@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> If this is readable, setenv VISUAL pico and setenv EDITOR pico works for BSD flavor of Unix -- -------------------------------------------------------------- | There are three important rules | Christopher Bibbs | | one must always remember. | chrisbib@umich.edu | | 1. You can't win. | oqp@cw-f1.umd.umich.edu | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 14 17:47:25 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02042; Tue, 14 Jun 94 17:47:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23373; Tue, 14 Jun 94 17:43:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23367; Tue, 14 Jun 94 17:43:18 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 14 Jun 94 17:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mkdavi@sys1.openohio.com (Michael K. Davidson) Subject: PINE and compiling for AIX Date: 14 Jun 1994 19:54:43 GMT Message-Id: <2tl1u3$inb@ns.oar.net> My RS/6000 administrator is having trouble copmiling the PINE mail front end on our AIX 3.2 based 6000. Has anyone done it successfully? Can your users modify the setup (default save folder, default editor, etc)? If you could be of help we sure would appreciate some. Helpful information can be directed to ceyoun@sys1.openohio.com or to me at mkdavi@sys1.openohio.com Thanks for any help you might offer. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 14 21:27:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07169; Tue, 14 Jun 94 21:27:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09450; Tue, 14 Jun 94 21:23:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09444; Tue, 14 Jun 94 21:23:07 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 14 Jun 94 21:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eliot@barclay.harvard.edu (Eliot Shepard) Subject: can pine use mh-style folders? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 23:21:27 GMT is there a way to canfigure pine to use mh-style folders? ie. can the folders be directories with each message a unique file within? i prefer pine's composition and addressbook features, but don't like having my mail all glommed together in mbox-type files. ** please reply by email and i will summarize. thanks, eliot -- Eliot Shepard Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory shepard@cfa.harvard.edu #include http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~eliot/eshepard.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 14 22:39:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08733; Tue, 14 Jun 94 22:39:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28292; Tue, 14 Jun 94 22:32:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28286; Tue, 14 Jun 94 22:32:53 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 14 Jun 94 22:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nadramia@panix.com (Peggy Nadramia) Subject: Export message Date: 14 Jun 1994 21:51:22 -0400 Message-Id: <2tlmqq$bm6@panix2.panix.com> I'd like to know how to export a message in my saved-messages folder as a text file to my floppy drive. Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 14 23:17:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09528; Tue, 14 Jun 94 23:17:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28901; Tue, 14 Jun 94 23:12:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28895; Tue, 14 Jun 94 23:12:24 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 14 Jun 94 23:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: PINE and compiling for AIX Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 19:38:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2tl1u3$inb@ns.oar.net> Have your administrator try the pre-compiled binaries available from ftp.cac.washington.edu in the mail/unix-bin directory... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 14 Jun 1994, Michael K. Davidson wrote: > My RS/6000 administrator is having trouble copmiling the PINE mail front > end on our AIX 3.2 based 6000. Has anyone done it successfully? Can your > users modify the setup (default save folder, default editor, etc)? If you > could be of help we sure would appreciate some. > > Helpful information can be directed to ceyoun@sys1.openohio.com or to me > at mkdavi@sys1.openohio.com > > Thanks for any help you might offer. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 14 23:17:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09548; Tue, 14 Jun 94 23:17:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11058; Tue, 14 Jun 94 23:12:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11052; Tue, 14 Jun 94 23:12:26 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 14 Jun 94 23:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Post and read on different machines in 3.90? Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 19:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Sure, no problem. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 14 Jun 1994, Elmar Kurgpold wrote: > When 3.90 is released, will it be possible to read news from one machine > and post news to another? > > ------------------------------------- ,-,,-, __ > | Elmar Kurgpold | ______/ /_,' | > | Network Administrator | \________________/ > | University of Southern California | |\) (/ | > | The Law Center | ( | oo | "My mind has wandered > | ekurgpol@Law.USC.EDU | ) `| |--' from the flock, you see > | (213)740-2571 FAX: (213)740-5502 | (___^^^^| And the flock has > ------------------------------------- (____' wandered away from me" > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 14 23:17:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09568; Tue, 14 Jun 94 23:17:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11050; Tue, 14 Jun 94 23:12:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11044; Tue, 14 Jun 94 23:12:21 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 14 Jun 94 23:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Mail-folder-collection Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 19:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2tkp2j$hv9@news.cs.tulane.edu> folder-collections=mail/[] |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 14 Jun 1994, Jay Allen wrote: > > What is the proper syntax for mail-folder-collection in the > .pinerc? I seem to have deleted something.. I have tried > > mail-folder-collection =mail/[] > (or whatever it is) =mail/[]] > =mail/ > =mail/[ ] > > It keeps telling me that there is no [ (or ]?) in context: []] And > of course I can't get into my mail folders. I know it was very similar to > that before. I am running Unix with PINE 3.89. Thanx in advance. > > Sail Fast-- > _________________________________________________________________ > Jay Allen \ "If at first you don't succeed, \ > University of Texas-Ex, 1993 \ lower your standards." ;) \ > Tulane Medical School \__________________________________\ > Southeastern Intercollegiate Sailing Assoc. Executive Vice-President > > La oro te natura | Nature lives > E mea arofa teie ao nei | Love the Earth > Ua oau te maitai no te fenua | The bounty of the land is exausted > Te vai noa ra te ora o te mitie | But there is still abundance in the seas > (Buffett) > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 14 23:27:16 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09764; Tue, 14 Jun 94 23:27:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29053; Tue, 14 Jun 94 23:22:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29044; Tue, 14 Jun 94 23:22:16 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 14 Jun 94 23:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: can pine use mh-style folders? Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 19:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: To get full MH support you need to either rebuild Pine 3.89 with the latest IMAP toolkit, or wait for Pine 3.90, which should be available in a few weeks. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 14 Jun 1994, Eliot Shepard wrote: > is there a way to canfigure pine to use mh-style folders? ie. can the > folders be directories with each message a unique file within? i > prefer pine's composition and addressbook features, but don't like > having my mail all glommed together in mbox-type files. > > ** please reply by email and i will summarize. > > thanks, > eliot > > -- > Eliot Shepard Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory shepard@cfa.harvard.edu > #include http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~eliot/eshepard.html > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 15 00:52:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11503; Wed, 15 Jun 94 00:52:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12162; Wed, 15 Jun 94 00:35:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12154; Wed, 15 Jun 94 00:35:08 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 15 Jun 94 00:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dejal@iconz.co.nz (David Lambert) Subject: Re: Folder seperators? Date: 15 Jun 1994 03:56:29 GMT Message-Id: <2tlu5e$619@status.gen.nz> References: David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : For the default Berkely folder format used by most Unix systems, the : separator is indeed the line that begins "From ". Pine does check to see : that the rest of the line looks reasonable, but not all mail programs do. : That is why you will sometimes see a "From " at the beginning of a line : converted to ">From "... Thank you for that explanation, and to the person who e-mailed me saying much the same thing. It seems odd, but I guess as long as incoming e-mail has ">" prepended to other lines starting with "From ", it's unique enough. One more question: which e-mail systems use this format? Pine, and I guess Elm... what about Mail? Others? I guess I could just call it the unix mail folder format. - David -- ... . . +----+ David Lambert : `. .. . .. : | DJ | dejal@iconz.co.nz : : :..: : ..: : | JD | dejal@deepthought.kiwi.gen.nz :..' `.. : `..: `. +----+ I love jellybeans! `..' From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 15 04:42:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17526; Wed, 15 Jun 94 04:42:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03753; Wed, 15 Jun 94 04:16:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03747; Wed, 15 Jun 94 04:16:35 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 15 Jun 94 04:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jtklehto@stekt.oulu.fi (Janne Kukonlehto) Subject: Adding header lines Date: 15 Jun 1994 10:51:03 GMT Message-Id: <2tmmen$isc@ousrvr.oulu.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit How can I add my own header lines to a message I am composing in pine? Pine seems to list only To:, Cc:, Attchmnt: and Subject: lines. In particular I want to add following lines: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/richtext but some other lines might also be necessary sometimes. Suggestions? -- Janne Kukonlehto jtklehto@phoenix.oulu.fi http://stekt.oulu.fi/~jtklehto From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 15 07:25:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22119; Wed, 15 Jun 94 07:25:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18271; Wed, 15 Jun 94 07:15:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18265; Wed, 15 Jun 94 07:15:56 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 15 Jun 94 07:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: umchrus0@cc.umanitoba.ca (Bruce David Chrustie) Subject: Re: PINE and compiling for AIX Date: 15 Jun 1994 13:31:14 GMT Message-Id: <2tmvr2$b24@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> References: <2tl1u3$inb@ns.oar.net> compiled binaries are available from ftp.cac.washington.edu we are running them on an RS6000 with AIX 3.2.5 and they work great! bruce From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 15 07:57:29 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23038; Wed, 15 Jun 94 07:57:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07556; Wed, 15 Jun 94 07:45:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07550; Wed, 15 Jun 94 07:45:05 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 15 Jun 94 07:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bradshaw@uoguelph.ca (Paul Bradshaw) Subject: Re: Can TIN use PINE to send messages? Date: 15 Jun 1994 14:25:00 GMT Message-Id: <2tn2vs$lg@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <2sjg4n$o25@news.bu.edu> <2tkeqf$rk@tribune.usask.ca> Sean, I think what Steve is getting at is - can he use Pine instead of whatever mechanism TIN uses (I would guess mail) to reply or mail to people. So that, for instance, if he has a friend named Peter in his .addressbook, then if he mails a message to "peter" then TIN will check the address book and fill in "peter@vm1.uottwa.ca", or whatever. So that, for another example, mail sent from TIN will appear in his PINE sent-mail folder. My initial answer to this is - NO. You can use PICO for the editor, but you're still contrained to using whatever mailing mechanism TIN is using when you send mail from TIN. Regards, Paul -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Paul Bradshaw, (519) 824-4120 x6568 Computing and Communications Services University of Guelph, Guelph, Ontario, Canada N1G 2W1 bradshaw@uoguelph.ca / Bradshaw@SuppServ.CCS.UoGuelph.Ca =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 15 08:19:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23808; Wed, 15 Jun 94 08:19:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07999; Wed, 15 Jun 94 08:05:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from denver.ssds.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07990; Wed, 15 Jun 94 08:05:07 -0700 Return-Path: Received: by chicago.ssds.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-SSDSnet.chicago.931212) id AA06866; Wed, 15 Jun 94 10:04:36 CDT Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 10:03:48 -0500 (CDT) From: James Weaver - Chicago Subject: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a version of pine that runs on a Mac? Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 15 08:29:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24283; Wed, 15 Jun 94 08:29:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08248; Wed, 15 Jun 94 08:13:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08242; Wed, 15 Jun 94 08:13:53 -0700 Received: from elvis.med.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa19664; 15 Jun 94 11:13 EDT Received: by elvis.med.Virginia.EDU (5.65c/1.34) id AA16465; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 11:13:50 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 11:13:50 -0400 From: "Steven D. Majewski" Message-Id: <199406151513.AA16465@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) To: David Lambert , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Folder seperators? Cc: header-people@mc.lcs.mit.edu On Jun 15, 3:56, David Lambert wrote: > > David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: > > : For the default Berkely folder format used by most Unix systems, the > : separator is indeed the line that begins "From ". Pine does check to see > : that the rest of the line looks reasonable, but not all mail programs do. > : That is why you will sometimes see a "From " at the beginning of a line > : converted to ">From "... > > Thank you for that explanation, and to the person who e-mailed me saying > much the same thing. It seems odd, but I guess as long as incoming > e-mail has ">" prepended to other lines starting with "From ", it's > unique enough. > Note that many mailers actually expect something more than just a match on "From " at the beginning of a line. Some are a bit more demanding and require an empty line preceeding the "From " and expect a userid and date in the proper format on the same line. I had occasion a couple of times to try to mung some foreign mailbox formats into Bezerkely format, and I discovered that several mailers were quite unforgiving about the date format. ( Some were more accepting, but I forget which was which! ) BTW: Who or what entity does the ">From " escaping ? sendmail ? > One more question: which e-mail systems use this format? Pine, and I > guess Elm... what about Mail? Others? I guess I could just call it the > unix mail folder format. Cc-ed to header people as these questions are getting no longer pine specific. - Steve Majewski (804-982-0831) - UVA Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 15 08:53:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25462; Wed, 15 Jun 94 08:53:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20108; Wed, 15 Jun 94 08:43:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20102; Wed, 15 Jun 94 08:43:35 -0700 Received: from ester.dsv.su.se by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24897; Wed, 15 Jun 94 08:43:32 -0700 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SUNET/ADMD=_/C=SE/; Relayed; 15 Jun 94 17:23:53+0200 Date: 15 Jun 94 17:23:53+0200 From: James Weaver - Chicago Message-Id: <731919*@su-kom.dsv.su.se> To: "Pine mailer discussions group (pine-infoEcac.washington.edu)" , Pine Info Mailing List From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 15 08:55:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25587; Wed, 15 Jun 94 08:55:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08999; Wed, 15 Jun 94 08:39:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from alpha.msmary.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08991; Wed, 15 Jun 94 08:39:40 -0700 Received: from beta.msmary.edu by msmary.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-DDN-msmary-3.1) id AA24608; Wed, 15 Jun 94 11:43:23 EDT Date: Wed, 15 Jun 94 11:43:23 EDT From: steinour@msmary.edu (David Steinour) Message-Id: <9406151543.AA24608@msmary.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Problem with the compose screen. Hello all, I was wondering if someone could help me with a problem I am having with pine/pico. I have installed pine-3.85 and all seems to be working except when I go into compose my command line seems to scramble at the bootom of the screen. Please see sample below below and notice the Spell check area. I am running this on a sun with Operating System 4.1.3. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, ************************************************** David P. Steinour Network Administrator Mount Saint Mary's College Emmitsburg, Maryland 21727 PHONE:(301) 447-5220 steinour@msmary.edu FAX:(301)447-5673 ************************************************** PINE 3.85 COMPOSE MESSAGE Folder:inbox 114 Messages To : Cc : Attchmnt: Subject : ----- Message Text ----- ^G Get Help ^C Cancel ^R Rich Hdr ^K Del Line ^O Postpone ^X Send ^D Del Char ^J Attach ^U UnDel Lin^T To AddrBk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 15 09:11:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26871; Wed, 15 Jun 94 09:11:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20453; Wed, 15 Jun 94 08:57:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20447; Wed, 15 Jun 94 08:57:51 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 15 Jun 94 08:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wells@pangea.usask.ca (Sean Wells) Subject: PC-Pine Giving Low on Memory Date: 15 Jun 1994 15:30:42 GMT Message-Id: <2tn6r2$fkl@tribune.usask.ca> We are trying to set up PC-Pine as our default mail reader for DOS based machines, but are getting Low On Memory, send may not be able to be completed on replies and forwards if the original message is included(for now). This seems to depend on the machine, so I assume it has to do with the amount of base memory available. How can we get around this? Is there a way to use EMS or XMS? Any help is appreciated. Sean Wells Help Desk University of Saskatchewan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 15 10:04:58 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28738; Wed, 15 Jun 94 10:04:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11107; Wed, 15 Jun 94 09:54:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11101; Wed, 15 Jun 94 09:54:40 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 15 Jun 94 09:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Adding header lines Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 09:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2tmmen$isc@ousrvr.oulu.fi> Pine handles the Mime-Version and Content-Type headers automatically. Unfortunately Pine does not currently support composing richtext... Pine 3.90 will allow the addition of other headers... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 15 Jun 1994, Janne Kukonlehto wrote: > How can I add my own header lines to a message I am composing in pine? > Pine seems to list only To:, Cc:, Attchmnt: and Subject: lines. > > In particular I want to add following lines: > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/richtext > > but some other lines might also be necessary sometimes. > > Suggestions? > > -- > Janne Kukonlehto jtklehto@phoenix.oulu.fi > http://stekt.oulu.fi/~jtklehto > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 15 11:25:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02155; Wed, 15 Jun 94 11:25:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13391; Wed, 15 Jun 94 11:19:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from denver.ssds.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13385; Wed, 15 Jun 94 11:19:10 -0700 Return-Path: Received: by chicago.ssds.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-SSDSnet.chicago.931212) id AA08947; Wed, 15 Jun 94 13:18:47 CDT Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 13:18:47 -0500 (CDT) From: James Weaver - Chicago Subject: pine for macs To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a version of pine that runs on macs? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 15 11:43:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03022; Wed, 15 Jun 94 11:43:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24168; Wed, 15 Jun 94 11:36:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24162; Wed, 15 Jun 94 11:35:58 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 15 Jun 94 11:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: raan@netcom.com (Ran Ever-Hadani) Subject: Re: mail -v like behavior Message-Id: References: Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 17:51:07 GMT In hubert@cac.washington.edu (Steve Hubert) writes: >The -v behavior (of ucb mail, don't know about mush) is just what you get >by passing -v to sendmail. So, if we always called sendmail to send mail >it would be easy to add -v. Unfortunately (as far as -v is concerned) >there is also the smtp-server=some-server option. It would be a lot >harder to do the verbose stuff when that option was defined. If we did >it just for the sendmail case, we'd have an inconsistent UI. So, I don't >think we'll be doing this any time soon. I don't see why this would be inconsistent. You can have a variable called verbose-send which would potentially be of the format verbose-send=sendmail,xxx,yyy where xxx yyy are other types of servers. For now you may declare that only "sendmail" is implemented. I find the -v behavior very informative. As someone already mentioned, it functions as a quick "confirm receipt" mechanism; it tells me if the connection times out and the message get queued, so that I can later run "mailq" to see whether my message went out etc. . With all respect to consistency, it seems a shame not to include a useful feature (a very important one, once you get used to depending on it) just because it cannot be implemented immediately accross the board. It is a standard feature in older mail agents, and I, for one, would hate to give it up. I humbly request that you reconsider. Thanks -- Ran From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 15 12:40:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05594; Wed, 15 Jun 94 12:40:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15398; Wed, 15 Jun 94 12:31:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15384; Wed, 15 Jun 94 12:31:28 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 15 Jun 94 12:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: raan@netcom.com (Ran Ever-Hadani) Subject: Re: TOF and EOF Message-Id: References: Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 18:40:29 GMT In casspa@efn.org (Paul+Penny Cass) writes: >I have to send some long messages that involve reading files into Pine. For >the life of me, I can't find a way to jump to the top or bottom of a >message, while in compose, except tedious repetitions of ctrl-V and ctrl-Y. I have no solution for EOF. For TOF hit ^_ (alternate editor) and at the prompt type "true". -- Ran From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 15 13:08:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07447; Wed, 15 Jun 94 13:08:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26185; Wed, 15 Jun 94 13:02:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26179; Wed, 15 Jun 94 13:02:08 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 15 Jun 94 12:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: pine for macs Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 12:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: One of the Pine Team members has done a little preliminary work on a Mac port in his spare time, but it has currently been sidelined... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 15 Jun 1994, James Weaver - Chicago wrote: > > Is there a version of pine that runs on macs? Any > help would be appreciated. > > Thanks > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 15 13:13:23 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07633; Wed, 15 Jun 94 13:13:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16602; Wed, 15 Jun 94 13:06:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from WILMA.CS.UTK.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16592; Wed, 15 Jun 94 13:06:31 -0700 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9c-UTK) id PAA04246; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 15:48:58 -0400 Message-Id: <199406151948.PAA04246@wilma.cs.utk.edu> From: Keith Moore To: "Steven D. Majewski" Cc: David Lambert , pine-info@cac.washington.edu, header-people@mc.lcs.mit.edu, moore@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Folder seperators? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 15 Jun 1994 11:13:50 EDT." <199406151513.AA16465@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 15:48:51 -0400 > BTW: Who or what entity does the ">From " escaping ? sendmail ? /bin/mail certainly does it. Sendmail will also do it if the mailer description in the config file has the 'E' flag set. However, this appears to be intended for delivering mail to files, not mailboxes. (i.e. when the recipient address is a file name, not a user name) Keith Moore From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 15 14:57:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12468; Wed, 15 Jun 94 14:57:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28941; Wed, 15 Jun 94 14:49:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28935; Wed, 15 Jun 94 14:49:42 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 15 Jun 94 14:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pwt@bell.inmet.com (Paul Tarr) Subject: pine/mail/LISTSERV discrepancy Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 21:04:36 GMT A pine/MIME/LISTSERV incompatability problem has recently cropped up on an e-mail list that I receive which I believe has general interest to many pine users. As background, the list is a discussion group for people with MS. Several book list references were sent as MIME attachments using pine 3.89. I also use pine 3.89 and could not read the attachments and neither could anyone else on the list. In fact, pine 3.89 did not recognize that any attachments existed! Everything was incorporated into the main body of the message. Another list member (Peter Bendall) investigated this problem and the results of his investigation are reported below (with his permission). ----- Results Several People commented that Paul Flavell's excellent book list arrived in an unreadable format. Because it _looked_ as if it was correctly formatted in the MESSAGE part, but the HEADERS were apparently edited by the LISTSERV, I forwarded a copy to the developers of our E-Mail system, (PMDF from Innosoft) who confirmed my suspicions - _Paul is innocent! LISTSERV named as prime suspect!_ Almost certainly - Both Paul and his experts at SFSU did the correct thing. The message was correctly encoded - only the header lines defining the encoding were missing. Probably stripped by the LISTSERV. (In fact, I typed in the lines MIME-version etc and FORWARDED the mail to myself and had no trouble in extracting the WordPerfect!!!) MIME (Multipurpose- Internet- Messaging- Extensions) is just a way of getting round the fact that Unix and BITnet mail only use about HALF the available characters of the ASCII code and that things like foreign characters (German "a, sz, Danish AA) and Word processors use all 256 in one way or another. BUT not all mailers know about MIME, nor apparently all LISTSERVs! *the less technical part of my mail to/from Ned Freed at Innosoft* [Peter B] >> I have received the following mail (and others like it) over several weeks. >> This particular one is a Word Perfect 5.1 file. >> It _says_ that it is in mime format, but it is not recognised as mime.Infact, >> there is nothing in the headers to say "mime" or "mime version". There's >> only "content type" following undefined Boundaries. > [Ned Freed] >I suspect that what happened is that LISTSERV stripped the MIME headers from >the message. LISTSERV often does this, and depending on the list setup may do >it by default. I believe you can tell LISTSERV not to do this on a per-user >basis. > So Everyone is innocent! Blame the computer! HOWEVER, IMHO it may be better to save a copy of your word processor data as "text" "text with line breaks" or whatever, if you are going to E-mail it. If LISTSERV doesn't chew it up, "their" local Mailer might, and after all that the person who gets it might not be able to handle _that_ WP file type on _his_ home computer! Apologies for the long posting best regards Peter Bendall Computer Manager European Molecular Biology Laboratory, Hamburg Outstation. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ WIN-Mail: PSI%(0262)45050150057::PETER | Tel: +49 40 - 899 02 133 Internet: Peter@EMBL-Hamburg.de | FAX: +49 40 - 899 02 149 AmateurRadio: DJ0JR or GW3NBU | (AX25 Packet down at the moment) == GAT d@(-) -p+ c+(++) l@ u-() e? m@ s+/+ n+ h?(---) f- g@(+) w+ t r y?(@) == ----- End of enclosure Paul Tarr pwt@minnie.bell.inmet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 15 17:08:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18449; Wed, 15 Jun 94 17:08:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23235; Wed, 15 Jun 94 17:00:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23229; Wed, 15 Jun 94 17:00:03 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 15 Jun 94 16:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: liamr@css.itd.umich.edu (Liam Hoekenga) Subject: Pine & PGP Date: 15 Jun 1994 23:05:55 GMT Message-Id: <2to1gj$ep5@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> How well does pine deal with pgp? Does it understand pgp "straight out of the box"? Will 3.90? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 15 18:58:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21081; Wed, 15 Jun 94 18:58:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03833; Wed, 15 Jun 94 18:50:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03827; Wed, 15 Jun 94 18:50:07 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 15 Jun 94 18:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sspears@IntNet.net (Sam Spears) Subject: Attaching Binary Files Date: 15 Jun 1994 21:20:55 -0400 Message-Id: <2to9dn$5pn@zeus.IntNet.net> I use the Pine mail program and have been trying to mail a binary file to a party who uses a mail program that is not MIME compliant. As I understand the process, I first need to use the uuencode program to "convert" the binary to an ascii text file. I've done this correctly, I think. The question that I have regards the actual attachment process. Should I attach the uuencoded file using the ^J command while in the header or does this re-encode the file in the MIME format? If there is another way to attach the file, how should I go about it? I'm new to both the Internet and e-mail and any insight will be greatly appreciated. Thanks --Sam From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 15 19:56:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22133; Wed, 15 Jun 94 19:56:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26503; Wed, 15 Jun 94 19:50:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26497; Wed, 15 Jun 94 19:50:03 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 15 Jun 94 19:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mreg@panix.com (Mitch Regenbogen) Subject: Attaching ascii files Date: 15 Jun 1994 22:43:19 -0400 Message-Id: <2toe87$57h@panix2.panix.com> Is there a simple way to attach an ascii file in Pine so it becomes part of the body of the letter? Thanks for any help. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- | Mitch Regenbogen | | | mreg@panix.com | "I like to watch." --Chauncey Gardner | | Brooklyn, New York | | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 15 20:51:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23022; Wed, 15 Jun 94 20:51:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27353; Wed, 15 Jun 94 20:42:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from Krypton.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27347; Wed, 15 Jun 94 20:42:16 -0700 Received: from localhost (hayden@localhost) by krypton.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id WAA21467; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 22:48:14 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 22:48:13 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Re: Pine & PGP To: Liam Hoekenga Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2to1gj$ep5@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 15 Jun 1994, Liam Hoekenga wrote: > How well does pine deal with pgp? It doesn't Does it understand pgp "straight out of > the box"? Will 3.90? no and no ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or Blue Earth County -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 15 21:55:54 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24333; Wed, 15 Jun 94 21:55:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06336; Wed, 15 Jun 94 21:50:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06330; Wed, 15 Jun 94 21:50:03 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 15 Jun 94 21:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: attachments Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 21:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2toe87$57h@panix2.panix.com> Use ^R to read the text or uuencoded material into the body of the message. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 15 Jun 1994, Sam Spears wrote: > I use the Pine mail program and have been trying to mail a binary file to > a party who uses a mail program that is not MIME compliant. As I > understand the process, I first need to use the uuencode program to > "convert" the binary to an ascii text file. I've done this correctly, I > think. The question that I have regards the actual attachment process. > Should I attach the uuencoded file using the ^J command while in the > header or does this re-encode the file in the MIME format? If there is > another way to attach the file, how should I go about it? > > I'm new to both the Internet and e-mail and any insight will be greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks > > --Sam > > On 15 Jun 1994, Mitch Regenbogen wrote: > Is there a simple way to attach an ascii file in Pine so it becomes part > of the body of the letter? > > Thanks for any help. > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > | Mitch Regenbogen | | > | mreg@panix.com | "I like to watch." --Chauncey Gardner | > | Brooklyn, New York | | > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 16 00:48:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28015; Thu, 16 Jun 94 00:48:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08785; Thu, 16 Jun 94 00:40:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08779; Thu, 16 Jun 94 00:40:22 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 16 Jun 94 00:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: syb3@aber.ac.uk (Simon Bradley) Subject: Re: Attaching Binary Files Message-Id: <1994Jun16.072548.10128@aber.ac.uk> References: <2to9dn$5pn@zeus.intnet.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 07:25:48 GMT In article <2to9dn$5pn@zeus.intnet.net>, Sam Spears wrote: >I use the Pine mail program and have been trying to mail a binary file to >a party who uses a mail program that is not MIME compliant. As I >understand the process, I first need to use the uuencode program to >"convert" the binary to an ascii text file. I've done this correctly, I >think. The question that I have regards the actual attachment process. >Should I attach the uuencoded file using the ^J command while in the >header or does this re-encode the file in the MIME format? If there is >another way to attach the file, how should I go about it? You're right up to attaching the file. Yes, including it as an attacement in the header will re-encode it in MIME format. You should use ^R when in the body of the message. --Simon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 16 00:48:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28048; Thu, 16 Jun 94 00:48:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01537; Thu, 16 Jun 94 00:40:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01531; Thu, 16 Jun 94 00:40:14 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 16 Jun 94 00:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dano@gate.net (Daniel P. Franco) Subject: Re: Attaching ascii files Date: 16 Jun 1994 05:20:29 GMT Message-Id: <2tonet$9p8@tequesta.gate.net> References: <2toe87$57h@panix2.panix.com> Mitch Regenbogen (mreg@panix.com) wrote: : Is there a simple way to attach an ascii file in Pine so it becomes part : of the body of the letter? : Thanks for any help. Mitch, On the status line on the bottom of the PINE screen, you should see ^R which reads in any file you want. Position the cursor below the header into the message area or text body. The type ^R. You should then see your inserted text. -- ============================================ | Daniel P. Franco dano@gate.net | ============================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 16 05:53:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05368; Thu, 16 Jun 94 05:53:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06226; Thu, 16 Jun 94 05:43:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06220; Thu, 16 Jun 94 05:43:35 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 16 Jun 94 05:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: danielb@jolt.mpx.com.au (Daniel Ben-Sefer) Subject: Control characters Date: 16 Jun 1994 11:59:13 GMT Message-Id: <2tpeqh$i6u@inferno.mpx.com.au> Two questions: How can I insert control characters into pico? On vi I press ^V. Couldnt find anything in Help. Is there a way to edit another file without exiting pico? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Ben-Sefer danielb@jolt.mpx.com.au On IRC: Castor, Dabas dben-sef@st.nepean.uws.edu.au Happiness is like a rainbow.... Whenever you get to the place you thought it was, it isnt there any more... it has moved away. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 16 08:18:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08267; Thu, 16 Jun 94 08:18:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15719; Thu, 16 Jun 94 08:09:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15713; Thu, 16 Jun 94 08:09:25 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 16 Jun 94 07:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Gardiner Myers Subject: Re: Attaching Binary Files Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 10:28:28 -0400 Message-Id: References: <2to9dn$5pn@zeus.IntNet.net> In-Reply-To: <2to9dn$5pn@zeus.IntNet.net> sspears@zeus.IntNet.net (Sam Spears) writes: > I use the Pine mail program and have been trying to mail a binary file to > a party who uses a mail program that is not MIME compliant. You should probably see about getting your party a program to decode MIME messages. A minimalist MIME-reading program, munpack, is available via anonymous FTP to ftp.andrew.cmu.edu in the directory pub/mpack/. The program reads MIME messages and writes the decoded parts out to files. Versions are available for Unix, MS-DOS, Macintosh, and Amiga platforms. -- _.John G. Myers Internet: jgm+@CMU.EDU LoseNet: ...!seismo!ihnp4!wiscvm.wisc.edu!give!up From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 16 08:25:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08528; Thu, 16 Jun 94 08:25:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08934; Thu, 16 Jun 94 08:17:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08928; Thu, 16 Jun 94 08:17:16 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 16 Jun 94 08:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rak@netaxs.com (nobody special) Subject: Re: Control characters Date: 16 Jun 1994 14:28:26 GMT Message-Id: <2tpnia$45b@netaxs.com> References: <2tpeqh$i6u@inferno.mpx.com.au> I asked this question via email a few weeks ago. The short answer is, you can't. Not directly, anyway. Of course, don't let that stop you... Set up a subdirectory, typically at ~/.ctrl/. In that directory, use vi to set up a series of 1-byte files, named a, b, c, etc., consisting of ctrl-a, ctrl-b, ctrl-c, ctrl-etc. When you need to insert a control character in pico, just use ^R (insert) to read in the appropriate control char at the proper cursor position. Then edit your text around the char as needed. So, to insert a ^V in your document, you would ^R the file .ctrl/v. Quite easy once it's set up. Daniel Ben-Sefer (danielb@jolt.mpx.com.au) wrote: : Two questions: : How can I insert control characters into pico? On vi I press ^V. Couldnt : find anything in Help. : Is there a way to edit another file without exiting pico? : ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- : Daniel Ben-Sefer danielb@jolt.mpx.com.au : On IRC: Castor, Dabas dben-sef@st.nepean.uws.edu.au : Happiness is like a rainbow.... : Whenever you get to the place you thought it was, it isnt there any more... : it has moved away. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 16 08:40:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09068; Thu, 16 Jun 94 08:40:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16218; Thu, 16 Jun 94 08:32:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16209; Thu, 16 Jun 94 08:32:37 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 16 Jun 94 08:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsallen@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (Jay Allen) Subject: sorting with pico Date: 16 Jun 1994 14:40:46 GMT Message-Id: <2tpo9e$8qt@news.cs.tulane.edu> Is there a way to alphabetically sort a list in pico or PINE 3.89? _________________________________________________________________ Jay Allen \ "If at first you don't succeed, \ University of Texas-Ex, 1993 \ lower your standards." ;) \ Tulane Medical School \__________________________________\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 16 08:59:56 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09964; Thu, 16 Jun 94 08:59:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09904; Thu, 16 Jun 94 08:49:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from gate.ncts.navy.mil by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09894; Thu, 16 Jun 94 08:49:15 -0700 Received: from pens-emh3.ncts.navy.mil by gate.ncts.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03664; Thu, 16 Jun 94 10:51:59 CDT Received: by pens-emh3.ncts.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13523; Thu, 16 Jun 94 10:44:23 CDT Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 10:41:17 -0500 (CDT) From: CAPT Tim Taylor USN Subject: Re: TOF and EOF To: Ran Ever-Hadani Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here's another way to go to the top of a message with just two keystrokes: Press i to return to the index Press return to display your message from the top. CAPT Tim Taylor, USN Email: tim.taylor@ncts.navy.mil Public Affairs Officer Phone: +44-(0)71-514-4414 U. S. Naval Forces Europe Fax: +44-(0)71-355-3890 London, UK http://www.ncts.navy.mil/~ttaylor/ On Wed, 15 Jun 1994, Ran Ever-Hadani wrote: > In casspa@efn.org (Paul+Penny Cass) writes: > > >I have to send some long messages that involve reading files into Pine. For > >the life of me, I can't find a way to jump to the top or bottom of a > >message, while in compose, except tedious repetitions of ctrl-V and ctrl-Y. > > I have no solution for EOF. For TOF hit ^_ (alternate editor) and at the > prompt type "true". > > -- Ran From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 16 09:05:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10672; Thu, 16 Jun 94 09:05:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10141; Thu, 16 Jun 94 08:57:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail.swip.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10131; Thu, 16 Jun 94 08:57:09 -0700 Received: by mail.swip.net (8.6.8/2.01) id RAA22934; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:42:58 +0200 Received: by kurir.skkb.sydkraft.se (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.2) id ; Thu, 16 Jun 94 17:43 MET DST Received: by kim.skkb.sydkraft.se (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.2) id ; Thu, 16 Jun 94 17:43 MET DST Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Jun 94 17:43 MET DST From: jop-ez@skkb.sydkraft.se (Jvrgen Porath) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help on how to get PINE for PC and UNIX Cc: jop-ez@skkb.sydkraft.se send help get pine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 16 11:17:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16617; Thu, 16 Jun 94 11:17:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13764; Thu, 16 Jun 94 11:11:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13758; Thu, 16 Jun 94 11:11:11 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 16 Jun 94 11:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: berczuk@space.mit.edu (Steve Berczuk) Subject: Pine 3.90: When? Date: 16 Jun 1994 17:47:32 GMT Message-Id: <2tq37k$dv1@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Sorry if this question has a well known answer, but when in Pine 3.90 due to be available? >From following David Miller's replies to the questions of the form : "can one..." (for which the answer is invariably, yes, in pine 3.90) it seems like it will solve many of the issues i have with 3.89, -- Steve Berczuk berczuk@mit.edu MIT Center for Space Research (617) 253-3840 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 16 11:55:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18980; Thu, 16 Jun 94 11:55:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21020; Thu, 16 Jun 94 11:45:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21012; Thu, 16 Jun 94 11:45:01 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 16 Jun 94 11:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: engjcp@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Cheese & Onions) Subject: finger from PINE? Date: 16 Jun 1994 18:26:44 GMT Message-Id: <2tq5h4$mqi@panther.Gsu.EDU> Sure would be handy if one could send a finger command from PINE, I believe. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [O][_][O][O][_][O][O][_][O][O][_][O][O][_][O][O][_][O][O][_][O][O][_][O][O] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ James Poulakos engjcp@gsusgi2.gsu.edu Department of English Georgia State University __________________________________________ University Plaza |ASK ME how the Georgia Board of Regents | Atlanta, GA 30303-3083 |&/or Kaiser Permanente are DEFRAUDING me| (404) 651-2900 |and other GSU employees! | ========================================== |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| **All postings from engjcp@gsusgi2.gsu.edu: (c) James Poulakos, 1994, unless otherwise noted therein. All rights reserved.** ___________________________________________________________________________ [O][_][O][O][_][O][O][_][O][O][_][O][O][_][O][O][_][O][O][_][O][O][_][O][O] [[ OPINIONS AND EXPRESSIONS HEREIN ARE NOT THOSE OF GA. STATE UNIVERSITY ]] ___________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 16 13:03:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21883; Thu, 16 Jun 94 13:03:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22596; Thu, 16 Jun 94 12:56:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22590; Thu, 16 Jun 94 12:56:56 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08917; Thu, 16 Jun 94 12:56:54 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 12:56:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Steve Berczuk Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.90: When? In-Reply-To: <2tq37k$dv1@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Sorry if this question has a well known answer, but when in Pine 3.90 > due to be available? I don't think the answer is well-known to the authors yet, so don't feel too bad :) We had been saying "Beta by late Spring", but notwithstanding the fact that it is still raining every other day in Seattle, we do seem to be running out of Spring... I'd say "July." -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 16 13:53:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24268; Thu, 16 Jun 94 13:53:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23885; Thu, 16 Jun 94 13:48:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from delta.hut.fi by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23879; Thu, 16 Jun 94 13:48:01 -0700 Received: (from mulperi@localhost) by delta.hut.fi (8.6.8.1/8.6.7) id XAA04865; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 23:47:58 +0300 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 23:47:57 +0300 (EET DST) From: "Mad.Cow.moo.moo" Subject: unsubscribe me To: pine-info@washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe me ---------------------------------------------------- |"Good times are comin', but they sure comin' slow"| | ~ Vampire Blues, Neil Young ~ | ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 16 15:36:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28430; Thu, 16 Jun 94 15:36:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26202; Thu, 16 Jun 94 15:30:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from julian.uwo.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26195; Thu, 16 Jun 94 15:30:41 -0700 Received: by julian.uwo.ca id AA04694; Thu, 16 Jun 94 18:30:38 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 18:30:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Cote Subject: PINE BUG ? (fwd) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I sent this one out a couple of weeks ago, when the mailing-list/newsgroup issue was at it's hottest. Maybe this one got lost in the shuffle. Here it is again.... I've had a user run into a conflict with the way Pine handles MIME vs other mailers. I've included his message for the details (headers and all). We're running Pine 3.88 here. Thanks. ----------- Mike Cote Information Technology Services (ITS) University of Western Ontario Phone: (519) 661-2151, X 6048 London, Ontario Canada ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 15:13:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Baycroft To: colleen@julian.uwo.ca, mcote@julian.uwo.ca Cc: sys_staff@lib.uwo.ca Subject: PINE BUG I have been installing a new version of elm and I have run into an odd problem with pine. If I am in pine and I receive a message that has a file attachment, if I reply to that message and ask for the current message to be included in my reply, pine also includes the attachment. (This sounds like a bug by itself) OK. Now I am in pine's compose function, and I go to the Attachment line and remove the attachment. I add my comments to the message and send it. Pine does not see fit to remove all of the MIME headers in the message. Although pine seems to be able to ignore all of this baggage in the header and message body, other mail programs like elm treat the message as a MIME message . . . which is a pain given that the message isn't really a MIME message. Is there anyway of fixing this? Or at least reporting the bug? The message that results from the above procedure looks something like: --------------------included stuff------------------------------- >From baycroft Tue May 31 14:57:27 1994 Received: by zoi.lib.uwo.ca id AA18538; Tue, 31 May 94 14:57:26 EDT Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 14:53:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Baycroft Subject: Re: Another Test To: Mike Baycroft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1915767421-1655458770-770410359:#27094"X-Status: Status: RO This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --1915767421-1655458770-770410359:#27094 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Tue, 31 May 1994, Mike Baycroft wrote: > > Yet another test message > > Mike > > Mike Baycroft The University of Western Ontario Libraries > London, Ontario, CANADA, N6A-3K7. > EMAIL: mike.baycroft@uwo.ca baycroft@lib.uwo.ca > Mike Baycroft The University of Western Ontario Libraries London, Ontario, CANADA, N6A-3K7. EMAIL: mike.baycroft@uwo.ca baycroft@lib.uwo.ca --1915767421-1655458770-770410359:#27094-- ----------------------end of included stuff---------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 16 20:38:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07575; Thu, 16 Jun 94 20:38:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01684; Thu, 16 Jun 94 20:33:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01678; Thu, 16 Jun 94 20:33:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEUPm-00000IC; Thu, 16 Jun 94 20:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: karuzis@wccf.mit.edu (GLENN HOLM) Subject: screen garbage typing fast in pico Date: 16 Jun 1994 23:11 EST Message-Id: <16JUN199423113809@wccf.mit.edu> running pine 3.89 under VAX VMS, on a PC connected to the VAX by ISDN line and running PCLINK 5.4. when composing a message in pico and typing fast, one gets random screen garbage looking like [16;38 at the point you're typing every once in a while (looks to me like the escape code for positioning the cursor to row 16, col 38. this only happens on the PC, not on real VT102 or VT220 terminals (the PC is in VT220 emulation), and also only happens in pico, not emacs or edt. understood that this is not the most common setup, but does anyone have any suggestions? ------------------------------------------------------------------ |Glenn Holm *mime mail ok* Internet:karuzis@wccf.mit.edu | |M.I.T Dept. of Brain + Cog. Sci. This VAX doesn't do NeXTmail | |Cambridge, MA 02139 "Real Neuroscientists don't do gels!" | ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 16 20:38:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07577; Thu, 16 Jun 94 20:38:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01676; Thu, 16 Jun 94 20:33:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01670; Thu, 16 Jun 94 20:33:44 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 16 Jun 94 19:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: unix1!hl427x@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Josh Parker) Subject: sort saves by... Date: 17 Jun 1994 02:49:47 GMT Message-Id: <2tr30b$6t2@cronkite.seas.gwu.edu> i've just started getting into pine 3.89 and it's default save directories, and i'm wondering if it's possible to have the default save to by-sender for incoming mail and by-recipient for outgoing. not that it's really that hard to do the ^r and change the fcc: line, but it'd be much easier if it'd do it for me... maybe in 3.90 :) josh -- ============================================================================== Josh Parker | HL427X@UNIX1.CIRC.GWU.EDU | "I Love Jookit" TW735C@GWUVM.BITNET | ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 16 20:53:19 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07845; Thu, 16 Jun 94 20:53:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27207; Thu, 16 Jun 94 20:48:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27201; Thu, 16 Jun 94 20:48:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEUeO-00000DC; Thu, 16 Jun 94 20:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: binning@aix1.ucok.edu (Bart Binning) Subject: local print attached-to-ansi Message-Id: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 03:05:29 GMT We have been using Pine 3.89 for about two months on an IBM AIX system. I have been accessing the system with a PC via modem and have used the local print option. However, with files that require more than three pages to print, large sections of the document disappear in the cyber black hole. any suggestions as to why? on the PC: Crosstalk for Windows Terminal setting: VT102 Comm Setup: 8/1/no parity, RTS/CTS flow control, break length 500 Modem Setup: Hayes V series smartmodem 9600 Comm port buffer size: 2K I have noticed that by increasing the comm port buffer size, I can get more pages printed before data disappears. thanks -- Bart Binning binning@aix1.ucok.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 16 21:27:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08782; Thu, 16 Jun 94 21:27:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02373; Thu, 16 Jun 94 21:19:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02367; Thu, 16 Jun 94 21:19:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEV5m-00000DC; Thu, 16 Jun 94 20:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mreg@panix.com (Mitch Regenbogen) Subject: Re: Attaching ascii files Date: 16 Jun 1994 23:59:40 -0400 Message-Id: <2tr73c$5pt@panix2.panix.com> References: <2toe87$57h@panix2.panix.com> <2tonet$9p8@tequesta.gate.net> Daniel P. Franco (dano@gate.net) wrote: : Mitch Regenbogen (mreg@panix.com) wrote: : : Is there a simple way to attach an ascii file in Pine so it becomes part : : of the body of the letter? : : Thanks for any help. : Mitch, : On the status line on the bottom of the PINE screen, you should see ^R : which reads in any file you want. : Position the cursor below the header into the message area or text body. : The type ^R. You should then see your inserted text. Thanks. Works great. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- | Mitch Regenbogen | | | mreg@panix.com | "I like to watch." --Chauncey Gardner | | Brooklyn, New York | | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 01:01:37 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12635; Fri, 17 Jun 94 01:01:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00872; Fri, 17 Jun 94 00:56:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00866; Fri, 17 Jun 94 00:56:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEYIE-00000dC; Fri, 17 Jun 94 00:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mhsacks@mail.med.cornell.edu (Michael Sacks) Subject: attached file Date: 17 Jun 1994 07:24:40 GMT Message-Id: <2trj3pINN8mj@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> I am having difficulty sending files. Could someone tell me how to: 1. Import a small ascii file into the message section of the letter. I am using ProComm for DOS as my communication program. 2. How to write the file into attached file after I kermit it to the server. 3. Sometimes when I succeed in getting 2. correct and the file transmits my receiver tells me he has received "garbage". Thanks Michael From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 01:42:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13747; Fri, 17 Jun 94 01:42:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05957; Fri, 17 Jun 94 01:35:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05951; Fri, 17 Jun 94 01:35:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEZ3I-00001JC; Fri, 17 Jun 94 01:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jimmy_t@hnlv4.verifone.com Subject: Need visible "working" indicator Message-Id: <1994Jun17.004031.751@sfov1.verifone.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 94 11:39:15 GMT When we pine goes away to retreive large folder indexs, or other time consuming operations, there seems to be no indication on the screen that pine is busy working. This lead users to continue hitting keys trying to get it to respond. Any plans to add a "Working..." or other on screen indication that Pine is busy working? Jim +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | James H. Thompson | jimmy_t@verifone.com (Internet) | | VeriFone Inc. | uunet!verifone!jimmy_t (UUCP) | | 100 Kahelu Avenue | 808-623-2911 (Phone) | | Mililani, HI 96789 | 808-625-3201 (FAX) | +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 04:40:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18182; Fri, 17 Jun 94 04:40:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04363; Fri, 17 Jun 94 04:34:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04357; Fri, 17 Jun 94 04:34:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEbwL-000005C; Fri, 17 Jun 94 04:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI (Holger Lillqvist) Subject: Pico and cursor movement Date: 17 Jun 1994 11:03:14 GMT Message-Id: <2trvti$5vm@kantti.Helsinki.FI> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Pico is meant to be a very easy-to-use editor, without extravagancies. Ok, but at least cursor movement commands should be improved. In version 3.89 there is no command for 'word left' (indeed very useful for fast backing your way into the text) and the 'word right' command ctrl-@ (=ctrl-space??) does not work on all terminals (not on mine, anyway). So please bind commands to keys probably working on most terminals. Glad to learn that ver. 3.90 will be equipped with ToF and BoF commands. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 05:14:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18897; Fri, 17 Jun 94 05:14:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09143; Fri, 17 Jun 94 05:09:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09137; Fri, 17 Jun 94 05:09:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEcSv-000005C; Fri, 17 Jun 94 04:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vweiss@sun3.oulu.fi (Viktor Weisshaupl) Subject: One reply to several messages - how? Date: 16 Jun 1994 08:56:50 GMT Message-Id: <2tp44i$s6p@ousrvr.oulu.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit When I want to answer several messages of one and the same person in only one reply, how can I get all the messages into the reply for citing? Up to now I have answered every message in a separate reply. Thanks for hints, Viktor -- *************************************************************************** Viktor Weisshaupl | Viktor.Weisshaupl@oulu.fi Oulu University, | vweiss@cc.oulu.fi Oulu, Finland | ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 05:38:53 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19484; Fri, 17 Jun 94 05:38:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05296; Fri, 17 Jun 94 05:31:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05282; Fri, 17 Jun 94 05:31:03 -0700 Received: by poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it (5.65/1.34) id AA03105; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 14:36:34 +0200 Organization: Istituto di Fisica Cosmica e Tecnologie Relative Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 14:36:33 +0200 (MET DST) From: Lucio Chiappetti Subject: Pine crashing on "rich header" ? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have been happily using Pine (3.89 on Ultrix) for a long time. Recently I have noticed the following problem occurring a few times. I start composing a message, and I enter MANUALLY a longish list of addressees (say 5-6 or more, all of them are entries in the .addressbook). (apparently the problem does not occur if the list is a single alias in the .addressbook, but I'm talking here of occasional ad-hoc lists ...) Then I move to the compose section and start typing. After a while I go back to the address section to change something in the header (I cannot swear that all the times it occurs if I type control_R to edit the Fcc: or Bcc: fields, but at least last time it was so). At this point my keyboard freezes, and Pine dies silently. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 05:53:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19747; Fri, 17 Jun 94 05:53:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05420; Fri, 17 Jun 94 05:39:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05414; Fri, 17 Jun 94 05:39:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEctc-000005C; Fri, 17 Jun 94 05:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pradit@senior.nectec.or.th (Pradit Pitaksathienkul) Subject: Problem, PINE change owner of /var/mail Date: 17 Jun 1994 12:10:36 GMT Message-Id: <2ts3rs$5ua@senior.nectec.or.th> I've some problem with PINE3.89 , when I send mail with pine to: someone and cc:to many people , it 'change owner' of the receivers ,example if I cc: to 20 people ,it will change owner around 2 , 3 receivers ,it change some users not all , and like random , not sure who will good luck,and not depend with the senders , anyone can change owner too... Who've ever met this problem , or can give me advice ? I use with Solaris 2.2 , Sun . No problem with mailx and cc of mailx , it is ok. I wait for ans ... pradit. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 06:12:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20101; Fri, 17 Jun 94 06:12:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09882; Fri, 17 Jun 94 06:04:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09876; Fri, 17 Jun 94 06:04:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEdLz-000005C; Fri, 17 Jun 94 05:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gmitch1@umbc.edu (The Iceman) Subject: Converting Ascii in Pine? Date: 17 Jun 1994 08:48:53 -0400 Message-Id: <2ts63lINNhse@umbc9.umbc.edu> Someone sent me some ascii files via pine, and I can't seem to convert them like I do in trn. Can someone please tell me how to do this? Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 08:02:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22729; Fri, 17 Jun 94 08:02:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07953; Fri, 17 Jun 94 07:54:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07947; Fri, 17 Jun 94 07:54:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEf24-000005C; Fri, 17 Jun 94 07:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: horen@applicom.co.il (Jonathan B Horen) Subject: How To Include Non-Current Messages in Reply? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 14:02:01 GMT Shalom! When I reply to the "current" message, PINE prompts me whether or not to include the current message in my reply. My question is: How can I include an additional message from my INBOX (or other folder) into a reply to the "current" message? For example, in responding to the message Joe sent me yesterday, I want to reference one he sent last week, which I filed in folder "Joe" (or, perhaps I want to include a message I got from Sally, or something from SunFlash...). ¬R is fine for reading a document into the Compose Window, but what about an email message? Anyone got an answer? an idea? ---------------------------horen@applicom.co.il--------------------------- Jonathan B. Horen Sr. System Administrator Applicom Systems, Ltd. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 08:11:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23062; Fri, 17 Jun 94 08:11:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11645; Fri, 17 Jun 94 08:00:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11639; Fri, 17 Jun 94 08:00:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEf58-00000BC; Fri, 17 Jun 94 07:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: joshua@engr.mun.ca (joshua swamidas) Subject: Certify mail! Date: 17 Jun 1994 14:17:32 GMT Message-Id: <2tsb9s$bd5@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Joshua Swamidas joshua@tera.engr.mun.ca Electrical Engineering Memorial University of Newfoundland From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 08:46:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24660; Fri, 17 Jun 94 08:46:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12365; Fri, 17 Jun 94 08:34:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12358; Fri, 17 Jun 94 08:34:12 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28169; Fri, 17 Jun 94 08:33:50 -0700 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 08:33:49 -0700 (PDT) From: " Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine crashing on "rich header" ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Do any of the addresses expand to fill the line completely? There is a known bug in Pine 3.89 that causes a crash on very long address lines... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 17 Jun 1994, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > I have been happily using Pine (3.89 on Ultrix) for a long time. > Recently I have noticed the following problem occurring a few times. > > I start composing a message, and I enter MANUALLY a longish list of > addressees (say 5-6 or more, all of them are entries in the .addressbook). > (apparently the problem does not occur if the list is a single alias > in the .addressbook, but I'm talking here of occasional ad-hoc lists ...) > > > Then I move to the compose section and start typing. > > After a while I go back to the address section to change something in > the header (I cannot swear that all the times it occurs if I type > control_R to edit the Fcc: or Bcc: fields, but at least last time it > was so). > > At this point my keyboard freezes, and Pine dies silently. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 09:17:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27156; Fri, 17 Jun 94 09:17:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10407; Fri, 17 Jun 94 09:09:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10401; Fri, 17 Jun 94 09:09:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEgAo-000005C; Fri, 17 Jun 94 08:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbp3@Ra.MsState.Edu (Jay B. Parker) Subject: Re: How To Include Non-Current Messages in Reply? Date: 17 Jun 1994 10:48:05 -0500 Message-Id: <2tsgjl$bqb@Ra.MsState.Edu> References: +--- Jonathan B Horen writes: | How can I include an additional message from my INBOX (or other folder) | into a reply to the "current" message? {...} | ^R is fine for reading a document into the Compose Window, but what | about an email message? [E]xport the old message to a file, then [^R]ead it into a new letter. Format and add quotechars manually. It's not great, but it gets it done. Pine 3.90, I think, will avoid this workaround... -Jay- -- Jay B. Parker -- Mississippi State University -- jbp3@Ra.MsState.Edu "But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep."-Frost From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 09:17:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27212; Fri, 17 Jun 94 09:17:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13393; Fri, 17 Jun 94 09:06:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13387; Fri, 17 Jun 94 09:06:45 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29302; Fri, 17 Jun 94 09:06:33 -0700 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 09:06:32 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Lucio Chiappetti Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII [sorry if this is a duplicate, I had a glitch in my configuration...] Lucio, Do any of the addresses expand to fill the line completely? There is a known bug in Pine 3.89 that causes a crash on very long address lines... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 17 Jun 1994, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > I have been happily using Pine (3.89 on Ultrix) for a long time. > Recently I have noticed the following problem occurring a few times. > > I start composing a message, and I enter MANUALLY a longish list of > addressees (say 5-6 or more, all of them are entries in the .addressbook). > (apparently the problem does not occur if the list is a single alias > in the .addressbook, but I'm talking here of occasional ad-hoc lists ...) > > > Then I move to the compose section and start typing. > > After a while I go back to the address section to change something in > the header (I cannot swear that all the times it occurs if I type > control_R to edit the Fcc: or Bcc: fields, but at least last time it > was so). > > At this point my keyboard freezes, and Pine dies silently. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 09:43:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28133; Fri, 17 Jun 94 09:43:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14021; Fri, 17 Jun 94 09:34:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14007; Fri, 17 Jun 94 09:34:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEgbs-000005C; Fri, 17 Jun 94 09:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hamjavar@unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar) Subject: new pine and one other question Date: 17 Jun 1994 10:01:36 -0600 Message-Id: <2tshd0$omd@lacerta.unm.edu> Hello: --------- I think I lost the e-mail but I think I received a e-mail in regard to PINE 3.9 being ready? Am I mistaken? --------- xpbiff and programs alike are useless with PINE (or any IMAP based programs).... Is there any body out there uses xpbiff program that checks your mail on a remote host and not the local spool ? thanks, Farid From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 10:03:14 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28739; Fri, 17 Jun 94 10:03:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11657; Fri, 17 Jun 94 09:57:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11645; Fri, 17 Jun 94 09:57:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEgrC-00000PC; Fri, 17 Jun 94 09:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maki@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Justin Maki) Subject: Re: Pico and cursor movement Message-Id: References: <2trvti$5vm@kantti.helsinki.fi> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:04:10 GMT How about an improvement on the ctrl-^ for marking text... That is a pretty awkward combination of keys on most keyboards. Justin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 10:05:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28825; Fri, 17 Jun 94 10:05:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14471; Fri, 17 Jun 94 09:57:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14465; Fri, 17 Jun 94 09:57:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEgrF-00000QC; Fri, 17 Jun 94 09:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nickerson@molbiol.ox.ac.uk (Darren Nickerson) Subject: Re: PINE 3.89 Screen Refreshes Message-Id: <1994Jun17.161825.1@molbiol.ox.ac.uk> Date: 17 Jun 94 16:18:25 GMT References: In article , slowe@ADMIN.aurora.edu (Steve Lowe) writes: > > In our DEC environment, most of our VT420 terminals are configured to > support multiple sessions. With session #1 being on the VAX, session #2 > on an Ultrix host executing PINE, the user receives an indication that > something has happened in session #2. > > When the user switches to session #2, the FOLDER INDEX screen is still > blank -- ie, no messages received. > > Does PINE refresh the screen even if no new messages have been received? > > - Steve Lowe > Aurora University slowe@admin.aurora.edu > 708 844 5290 I have encountered the same problem with having multiple sessions on a Mac via Versaterm Pro. Pine does in fact write to the screen every once in awhile, at least the latest release does. Each time it checks for new mail, an asterisk in the top left-hand-side of the screen will appear. This is enough for VTerm to alert me, and I make that screen active only to realize that there's nothing there. I have gotten around it by using an older version of Pine in another window, and keeping the one with 3.89 in the active window, but would dearly LOVE to be able to disable this feature. -Darren -- ########################################################################## # Darren Nickerson | # # New Chemistry Laboratory | If the truth can be told # # University of Oxford | so as to be understood, # # Oxford, England | it will be believed. # # (0865) 271549 | # ########################################################################## From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 10:25:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29733; Fri, 17 Jun 94 10:25:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12285; Fri, 17 Jun 94 10:20:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12279; Fri, 17 Jun 94 10:20:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEhKQ-000005C; Fri, 17 Jun 94 10:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maki@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Justin Maki) Subject: Re: Pine 3.90: When? Message-Id: References: <2tq37k$dv1@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:10:15 GMT Terry Gray wrote: > >I'd say "July." > Is there a list of new features floating around somewhere that can hold us over? =) Justin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 11:17:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02063; Fri, 17 Jun 94 11:17:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13753; Fri, 17 Jun 94 11:10:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13747; Fri, 17 Jun 94 11:10:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEi5D-00000DC; Fri, 17 Jun 94 10:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: One reply to several messages - how? Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 10:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2tp44i$s6p@ousrvr.oulu.fi> This feature will be available in Pine 3.90. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 16 Jun 1994, Viktor Weisshaupl wrote: > When I want to answer several messages of one and the same person in only > one reply, how can I get all the messages into the reply for citing? Up > to now I have answered every message in a separate reply. > > Thanks for hints, Viktor > > -- > *************************************************************************** > Viktor Weisshaupl | Viktor.Weisshaupl@oulu.fi > Oulu University, | vweiss@cc.oulu.fi > Oulu, Finland | > ****************************************************************************** > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 11:17:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02072; Fri, 17 Jun 94 11:17:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16225; Fri, 17 Jun 94 11:10:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16219; Fri, 17 Jun 94 11:10:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEi4x-00000BC; Fri, 17 Jun 94 10:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: sort saves by... Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 10:34:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2tr30b$6t2@cronkite.seas.gwu.edu> I think everybody is probably tired of the broken record, but... This feature will be available in Pine 3.90. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 17 Jun 1994, Josh Parker wrote: > i've just started getting into pine 3.89 and it's default save > directories, and i'm wondering if it's possible to have the default save > to by-sender for incoming mail and by-recipient for outgoing. not that > it's really that hard to do the ^r and change the fcc: line, but it'd be > much easier if it'd do it for me... > > maybe in 3.90 :) > > josh > > -- > ============================================================================== > Josh Parker | > HL427X@UNIX1.CIRC.GWU.EDU | "I Love Jookit" > TW735C@GWUVM.BITNET | > ============================================================================== > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 12:38:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04953; Fri, 17 Jun 94 12:38:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18083; Fri, 17 Jun 94 12:32:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18077; Fri, 17 Jun 94 12:32:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEjJn-00000BC; Fri, 17 Jun 94 12:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jah10@Ra.MsState.Edu (Jason A. Hutto) Subject: How can i combine multiple letters into one reply? Date: 17 Jun 1994 14:04:30 -0500 Message-Id: <2tss3u$b5g@Isis.MsState.Edu> The title pretty much says it all i guess... I have seen some people have wquoted text from multiple letters in one reply and i was wondering how they do that. also...how di i do kill files... and how do i create an automatic reply command for a specific header? does any of this make sense? also...how would i put a saved post from a usenet board into pine to quote in e-mail? now feeling stupid, jason From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 13:01:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05581; Fri, 17 Jun 94 13:01:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16345; Fri, 17 Jun 94 12:56:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16339; Fri, 17 Jun 94 12:56:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEjjc-000005C; Fri, 17 Jun 94 12:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: giangrtm@iia.org (Tom Giangreco) Subject: Re: Attaching ascii files Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 19:31:30 GMT Message-Id: References: <2toe87$57h@panix2.panix.com> In article <2toe87$57h@panix2.panix.com> mreg@panix.com (Mitch Regenbogen) writes: >From: mreg@panix.com (Mitch Regenbogen) >Subject: Attaching ascii files >Date: 15 Jun 1994 22:43:19 -0400 >Is there a simple way to attach an ascii file in Pine so it becomes part >of the body of the letter? How about Control-r (^r) to read in a file... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 13:39:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07360; Fri, 17 Jun 94 13:39:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19428; Fri, 17 Jun 94 13:33:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19422; Fri, 17 Jun 94 13:33:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEkFs-00000DC; Fri, 17 Jun 94 13:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fool@chopin.udel.edu (Gwendolyn El Eckman) Subject: mh folders Date: 17 Jun 1994 15:52:13 -0400 Message-Id: <2tsutd$oqb@chopin.udel.edu> Is there a way to convert Pine mail folders into mh folders? They are pretty different, one being an appended file, the other a directory with numbered messages. I am in the process of changing over and don't know how to reconcile this. -- ...---...---...---...---...---...---...---...---...--- - gwen eckman wake up in the rain . - fool@chopin.udel.edu eckman@freezer.cns.udel.edu . From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 13:39:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07367; Fri, 17 Jun 94 13:39:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17413; Fri, 17 Jun 94 13:33:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17403; Fri, 17 Jun 94 13:33:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEkGZ-00000FC; Fri, 17 Jun 94 13:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: umchrus0@cc.umanitoba.ca (Bruce David Chrustie) Subject: help with this error message Date: 17 Jun 1994 17:58:05 GMT Message-Id: <2tso7d$f9u@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> hello pine users! I am currently using pine 3.89 on a RS6000, it is working fine but.... i can use it with no problems at all from the unix prompt, I have also set up in a menu to call pine from within another running program, ie. I am using this program called Impact, on the impact menu I am able to select P)pine and it works great, but another user has the same configuration as I do, both in impact and for pine, he is able to start pine from the unix prompt but when he selects P)pine from within impact, he gets: The mail subdirectory already exists, but is not writable by pine so pine cannot run. Please correct the permissions and restart pine but like I stated, he can run pine from the unix prompt any ideas? thanks, bruce From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 13:52:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07935; Fri, 17 Jun 94 13:52:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19779; Fri, 17 Jun 94 13:47:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19773; Fri, 17 Jun 94 13:47:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEkVJ-000005C; Fri, 17 Jun 94 13:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: daveb@pmafire.inel.gov (Dave Black) Subject: Can you make a public folder? Message-Id: <1994Jun17.201119.6623@pmafire.inel.gov> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 94 20:11:19 GMT Does anyone know of a way to make folder resemble a bulletin board, where users can read and post and it be shared with all other email users on the system? I think I could do it with a local newgroup and NNTP access, but I guess I'll need rev 3.90 before posting becomes available. Any Ideas? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 14:01:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08349; Fri, 17 Jun 94 14:01:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19976; Fri, 17 Jun 94 13:56:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19970; Fri, 17 Jun 94 13:56:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEkhU-00000FC; Fri, 17 Jun 94 13:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: mh folders Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 13:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2tsutd$oqb@chopin.udel.edu> Pine 3.90 will include an MH driver. The latest UW IMAP distribution (mail/imap.tar.Z on ftp.cac.washington.edu) also includes the new driver and can be patched into Pine 3.89 quite easily... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 17 Jun 1994, Gwendolyn El Eckman wrote: > > Is there a way to convert Pine mail folders into mh folders? > They are pretty different, one being an appended file, the other > a directory with numbered messages. I am in the process of changing > over and don't know how to reconcile this. > > > > -- > ...---...---...---...---...---...---...---...---...--- > - gwen eckman wake up in the rain . > - fool@chopin.udel.edu eckman@freezer.cns.udel.edu . > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 14:01:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08363; Fri, 17 Jun 94 14:01:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17973; Fri, 17 Jun 94 13:56:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17967; Fri, 17 Jun 94 13:56:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEkdx-00000DC; Fri, 17 Jun 94 13:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gillman@almaak.usc.edu (Howard A. Gillman) Subject: Possible terminal emulation problem in pico Date: 17 Jun 1994 13:24:27 -0700 Message-Id: <2tt0pr$kat@almaak.usc.edu> After a year of no problems with emacs I'm playing with the pico editor in pine. When I try to set a mark (cntrl-^) the cursor moves to the last line of the document rather than sets a mark. When I just type shift-6 I get the ^ mark, but somehow pico doesn't think that my cntrl-shift-6 = set mark. Is there something wrong with my keyboard (an old Mac SE keyboard) or the terminal emulation (I'm using Kermit), or am I just doing something REALLY stupid? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 14:41:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09697; Fri, 17 Jun 94 14:41:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18968; Fri, 17 Jun 94 14:36:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18962; Fri, 17 Jun 94 14:36:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qElHn-000005C; Fri, 17 Jun 94 14:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nash@sdsu.edu (ron nash) Subject: build sol fails on 2.3 Date: 17 Jun 1994 20:40:02 GMT Message-Id: <2tt1n2$cfe@gondor.sdsu.edu> The "build sol" fails on Solaris 2.3. I have 3.89. Is there a patch? Making Pine. cc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -c addrbook.c -o addrbook.o "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 171: identifier redeclared: rename "addrbook.c", line 200: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "addrbook.c", line 204: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "addrbook.c", line 1349: cannot recover from previous errors cc: acomp failed for addrbook.c make: *** [addrbook.o] Error 1 -- ,--, | Ron Nash San Diego State University _ ___/ /\| | nash@sdsu.edu ,;`( )__, ) ~ | // // '--; | Gin-N-Tonic endurance horse ' \ | | Luv on Fire trusty trail horse From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 14:47:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09860; Fri, 17 Jun 94 14:47:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20833; Fri, 17 Jun 94 14:41:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20827; Fri, 17 Jun 94 14:41:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qElO6-00000DC; Fri, 17 Jun 94 14:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lindquiste@wc5 (Erik Lindquist Bldg 300 Rm B119 Ph 3145) Subject: Where do I find VMS Pine???? Date: 17 JUN 94 19:40:59 GMT Message-Id: <17JUN94.19405933@wc5> I use PINE on my UNIX stations and would like to use it on my VAX station. Where do I find it??? THanks in advance... ____ _____ _______ __ / _ | / ___/ / _____/ / / Erik Lindquist / /_| | / /__ / / / / Research Engineer / __ | / ___/ / / / / AECL Whiteshell Laboritories / / | | / /____ / /_____ / /_____ VOICE: (204) 753-2311x3145 /_/ |_| L_____/ /_______/ /________/ E-mail: lindquie@wu1.wl.aecl.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 14:56:22 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10130; Fri, 17 Jun 94 14:56:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19355; Fri, 17 Jun 94 14:51:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19349; Fri, 17 Jun 94 14:51:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qElYt-00000FC; Fri, 17 Jun 94 14:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cwg@urbino.mcc.com (Chris Garrigues) Subject: Re: Attaching ascii files Message-Id: References: <2toe87$57h@panix2.panix.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 19:40:12 GMT In article , Tom Giangreco wrote: >In article <2toe87$57h@panix2.panix.com> mreg@panix.com (Mitch Regenbogen) writes: >>From: mreg@panix.com (Mitch Regenbogen) >>Subject: Attaching ascii files >>Date: 15 Jun 1994 22:43:19 -0400 > >>Is there a simple way to attach an ascii file in Pine so it becomes part >>of the body of the letter? > >How about Control-r (^r) to read in a file... I actually got screwed by Pine on this front. I needed to send a raw ASCII file to someone who didn't have MIME. The file I needed to send had some longish lines, so the entire file got put in quoted printable form and my lines were broken down to 72(?) characters. Needless to say, the file wasn't useful at the other end. I ended up sending the files from EMACS since I couldn't figure out how to outsmart Pine. Chris -- Chris Garrigues (MIME capable) cwg@mcc.com Microelectronics and Computer Technology Corporation +1 512 338 3328 3500 West Balcones Center Fax +1 512 338 3838 Austin, TX 78759-5398 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 15:48:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12016; Fri, 17 Jun 94 15:48:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22047; Fri, 17 Jun 94 15:41:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22041; Fri, 17 Jun 94 15:41:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEmJi-000005C; Fri, 17 Jun 94 15:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: clusena@TrentU.CA (CHRIS LUSENA) Subject: Re: Need visible "working" indicator Message-Id: <1994Jun17.173153.3617@blaze.trentu.ca> References: <1994Jun17.004031.751@sfov1.verifone.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 17:31:53 GMT In article <1994Jun17.004031.751@sfov1.verifone.com>, jimmy_t@hnlv4.verifone.com writes: >When we pine goes away to retreive large folder indexs, or other time >consuming operations, there seems to be no indication on the screen >that pine is busy working. This lead users to continue hitting >keys trying to get it to respond. Any plans to add a "Working..." >or other on screen indication that Pine is busy working? > > I concure have gone through uuencoding 128k files when there is a loadon and pine being unsuported here, knowing did the thing crash or is it still working would be nice. IMHO --Chris (Warning this is a copyrighted SIG, any reproduction or retransmition without the express written permission of CLusena@TrentU.Ca is strictly prohibited) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 15:57:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12349; Fri, 17 Jun 94 15:57:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20763; Fri, 17 Jun 94 15:51:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20755; Fri, 17 Jun 94 15:51:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEmTn-00000BC; Fri, 17 Jun 94 15:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wells@pangea.usask.ca (Sean Wells) Subject: Re: Where do I find VMS Pine???? Date: 17 Jun 1994 22:01:50 GMT Message-Id: <2tt6ge$k9a@tribune.usask.ca> References: <17JUN94.19405933@wc5> Hello all, In a previous post I asked a question about VMS Pine, and have since received a lot of mail asking WHERE DO I GET IT!!!!!!! I must apologise to all, VMS Pine is a proprietary product available through PMDF. It is not, unfortunately, a public domain product. As for the questions I received about addressing using VMS Pine, the main answer is yes, you use Internet-format addresses without having to put SMTP::"
", or whatever syntax you are used to on a VAX. Hopefully someone can produce a public version, but until then, PMDF VAX users are the only lucky ones. Thanks, Sean University of Saskatchewan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 16:22:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13143; Fri, 17 Jun 94 16:22:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22848; Fri, 17 Jun 94 16:17:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22842; Fri, 17 Jun 94 16:17:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEmrZ-00000BC; Fri, 17 Jun 94 15:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: df@christa.unh.edu (Dan Ford) Subject: Re: Pico and cursor movement Date: 17 Jun 1994 22:26:00 GMT Message-Id: <2tt7to$b1j@mozz.unh.edu> References: <2trvti$5vm@kantti.Helsinki.FI> >Pico is meant to be a very easy-to-use editor, without extravagancies. Ok, >but at least cursor movement commands should be improved. In version 3.89 >there is no command for 'word left' (indeed very useful for fast backing >your way into the text) and the 'word right' command ctrl-@ (=ctrl-space??) >does not work on all terminals (not on mine, anyway). So please bind Plus (as they say) ctrl-@ is a terrible reach for a touch typist! Any chance we could move toward WordStar commands for the new Pine? Remember the cute little diamond of WordStar control keys? It still works great. -- - Dan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 16:25:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13217; Fri, 17 Jun 94 16:25:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21510; Fri, 17 Jun 94 16:21:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21504; Fri, 17 Jun 94 16:21:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEmvr-00000DC; Fri, 17 Jun 94 16:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: build sol fails on 2.3 Date: 17 Jun 1994 15:30:30 -0700 Message-Id: <2tt866$84c@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: <2tt1n2$cfe@gondor.sdsu.edu> In article <2tt1n2$cfe@gondor.sdsu.edu>, ron nash wrote: :The "build sol" fails on Solaris 2.3. I have 3.89. Is there a patch? : :Making Pine. :cc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -c addrbook.c -o addrbook.o :"/usr/include/unistd.h", line 171: identifier redeclared: rename Add -Dconst= to the CFLAGS definition in pine/makefile.sol. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 17 19:51:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17868; Fri, 17 Jun 94 19:51:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26383; Fri, 17 Jun 94 19:47:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26377; Fri, 17 Jun 94 19:47:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEq8t-00000DC; Fri, 17 Jun 94 19:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pcfong@hkusub ((| Malboro PC |) 8D) Subject: Re: Uploading files to mail Message-Id: References: <2tjhgb$ltr@tequesta.gate.net> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 02:10:19 GMT George Chamberlin in Sunny South Florida (grc@gate.net) wrote: : Daniel P. Franco (dano@gate.net) wrote: : =Any help on this one will be greatly appreciated. : =When I save an ASCII text file with Word 6.0 for Windows, and then upload : =to my host, I notice that the carriage return control sequence (^M) is : =present in my inserted file when I view it in PINE. : : =Is there a way to avoid editing my upload before inserting the file into : =PINE? : : Daniel, : Don't think so. Try this. : : KORN SHELL (ksh) : Getting rid of ^M's in ascii (text) files in your UNIX directories. : Put this function is in your .kshrc file (or .profile file). : ...... : (This function is in /tmp as "clean.fun" on Cybergate) : George Have you tried a simpler way (I think) that you save your file in Word 6.0 as "generic text" (Does this form exist in Word 6.0) and not simply "ascii text". Generic text leave long sentences in one line and do not cut them by carriage returns. -- Malboro Fong pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. Those who WATCH things happen. Those who WONDER what happened. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 18 06:21:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29631; Sat, 18 Jun 94 06:21:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05139; Sat, 18 Jun 94 06:11:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05133; Sat, 18 Jun 94 06:11:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qEzvg-00000FC; Sat, 18 Jun 94 05:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brennan@cchs.su.edu.au (Luke Brennan) Subject: Re: Where do I find VMS Pine???? Date: 18 Jun 94 20:39:09 +1000 Message-Id: <1994Jun18.203909@cchs.su.edu.au> References: <17JUN94.19405933@wc5> In article <17JUN94.19405933@wc5>, lindquiste@wc5 (Erik Lindquist Bldg 300 Rm B119 Ph 3145) writes: > I use PINE on my UNIX stations and would like to use it on my VAX station. > > Where do I find it??? For VMS? There's a beta version of a port available from vms.huji.ac.il in the [.local] directory. (don't know any details - just where it is) Luke. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 18 06:41:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29920; Sat, 18 Jun 94 06:41:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04428; Sat, 18 Jun 94 06:34:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04422; Sat, 18 Jun 94 06:34:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qF0Cj-00000DC; Sat, 18 Jun 94 06:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vweiss@sun3.oulu.fi (Viktor Weisshaupl) Subject: Re: One reply to several messages - how? Date: 18 Jun 1994 07:48:37 GMT Message-Id: <2tu8sl$i5i@ousrvr.oulu.fi> References: <2tp44i$s6p@ousrvr.oulu.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Viktor Weisshaupl (vweiss@cc.oulu.fi) wrote: > When I want to answer several messages of one and the same person in only > one reply, how can I get all the messages into the reply for citing? Up > to now I have answered every message in a separate reply. > Thanks for hints, Viktor Answering my own question. I think I might E xport the letters to different files and R ead them into a new composed message and K ill away the headers aso junk. But it sounds messy. Good idea that it will be included in the next version. *************************************************************************** Viktor Weisshaupl | Viktor.Weisshaupl@oulu.fi Oulu University, | vweiss@cc.oulu.fi Oulu, Finland | ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 18 07:43:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00857; Sat, 18 Jun 94 07:43:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06164; Sat, 18 Jun 94 07:36:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06158; Sat, 18 Jun 94 07:36:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qF1Cq-00000DC; Sat, 18 Jun 94 07:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: S220264@kub.nl (Rutger vd GeVEL) Subject: Re: Where do I find VMS Pine???? Date: 18 Jun 1994 13:47:06 GMT Message-Id: <2tutsq$jjb@kubds1.kub.nl> References: <17JUN94.19405933@wc5> <2tt6ge$k9a@tribune.usask.ca> In-Reply-To: wells@pangea.usask.ca's message of 17 Jun 1994 22:01:50 GMT In <2tt6ge$k9a@tribune.usask.ca> wells@pangea.usask.ca writes: > Hello all, > In a previous post I asked a question about VMS Pine, and > have since received a lot of mail asking > WHERE DO I GET IT!!!!!!! > > I must apologise to all, VMS Pine is a proprietary product > available through PMDF. It is not, unfortunately, a public domain > product. I'm not too sure about that. VMS Pine (beta version) by Yehavi is available via Anonymous FTP: VMS.HUJI.AC.IL:[LOCAL]pine_beta_9.zip (or .bck). Because it's a beta version you will encounter several bugs when running VMS-Pine, but nevertheless it is a real good port... You will need to compile and link the sources with NETLIB yourself. If you need any help with this mail me: I've got it working (Compiling & linking will result in lots of warnings but you can ignore them). Best wishes, Rutger ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rutger S.J.A. van de GeVEL, Email: Rutger@kub.nl - MIME messages welcome. -- Student Information Management Science, Tilburg University, The Netherlands. PGP Public Key available via PGP public key mailservers. ------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 18 09:18:54 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02302; Sat, 18 Jun 94 09:18:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06519; Sat, 18 Jun 94 09:12:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06513; Sat, 18 Jun 94 09:12:19 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20130; Sat, 18 Jun 94 09:12:15 -0700 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 09:12:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Rutger vd GeVEL Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Where do I find VMS Pine???? In-Reply-To: <2tutsq$jjb@kubds1.kub.nl> Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 18 Jun 1994, Rutger vd GeVEL wrote: > > I must apologise to all, VMS Pine is a proprietary product > > available through PMDF. It is not, unfortunately, a public domain > > product. > > I'm not too sure about that. VMS Pine (beta version) by Yehavi is available > via Anonymous FTP: VMS.HUJI.AC.IL:[LOCAL]pine_beta_9.zip (or .bck). There are two different VMS ports. One was done by Innosoft, and is distributed as part of their PMDF package. The other one by Yehavi... His *may* require TGV/Multinet libraries, but I'm not certain of that. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 18 09:26:47 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02429; Sat, 18 Jun 94 09:26:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06637; Sat, 18 Jun 94 09:21:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06631; Sat, 18 Jun 94 09:21:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qF2qM-00000FC; Sat, 18 Jun 94 09:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wjrst1+@pitt.edu (William J Rehm) Subject: Re: One reply to several messages - how? Date: 18 Jun 1994 16:01:57 GMT Message-Id: <2tv5pl$4f8@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> References: <2tp44i$s6p@ousrvr.oulu.fi> <2tu8sl$i5i@ousrvr.oulu.fi> On 18 Jun 1994 07:48:37 GMT, Viktor Weisshaupl wrote: :|Answering my own question. I think I might E xport the letters to :|different files and R ead them into a new composed message and K ill away :|the headers aso junk. But it sounds messy. If you export them to the *same* file, you're given the option of appending each msg after the first one. Then you can do one ^r to bring all of them in at once. Bill -- _______oOOo________oOOo_______________________________________________ | Bill Rehm |"Somedays, it's all I can do just to hold on." wjrst1+@pitt.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 18 10:58:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03772; Sat, 18 Jun 94 10:58:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08732; Sat, 18 Jun 94 10:53:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08726; Sat, 18 Jun 94 10:53:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qF4Hn-00000JC; Sat, 18 Jun 94 10:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lgolomb@epas.utoronto.ca (Liorah Golomb) Subject: Customizing saved-msgs prompt in .pinerc? Date: 18 Jun 1994 17:21:30 GMT Message-Id: <2tvaeq$6j6@alpha.epas.utoronto.ca> I've been customizing my .pinerc to change where sent and saved mail goes, in order to shorten the default names. I changed the default "sent-mail" to "sent" and the default "saved-messages" to "saved". The only thing I haven't managed to change is the prompt when I go to save a message: it still defaults to "saved-messages" even though I no longer have a folder of that name. How do I change the prompt to default to the name I gave the folder, i.e., "saved"? I'm using version 3.89. Thanks! -Liorah -- Liorah Anne Golomb, "The path of my life is strewn Professional Student with cowpats from the devil's lgolomb@epas.utoronto.ca own satanic herd." -Blackadder II From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 18 13:02:53 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05646; Sat, 18 Jun 94 13:02:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09579; Sat, 18 Jun 94 12:58:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09573; Sat, 18 Jun 94 12:58:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qF6Ge-00000BC; Sat, 18 Jun 94 12:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jon@dewey.miyazaki-mic.ac.jp (Jon Vestal) Subject: Japanese Support Date: 16 Jun 1994 07:54:39 GMT Message-Id: <2tp0fv$ns@kokusai.miyazaki-mic.ac.jp> Hi, I am trying to get Pine to work on a RS/6000 running AIX 3.2.5 and AIXWindows for Japanese. I can not get it to take the Kanji characters in double byte. Is there a port of Pine to Japanese? Thanks for any help. Jon Vestal Systems Engineer Miyazaki International College jon@mori.miyazaki-mic.ac.jp From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 18 14:02:21 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06585; Sat, 18 Jun 94 14:02:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11167; Sat, 18 Jun 94 13:58:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11161; Sat, 18 Jun 94 13:58:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qF7CN-00000BC; Sat, 18 Jun 94 13:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: angland@bu.edu (Joseph Angland) Subject: Windows version? Date: 18 Jun 1994 20:34:49 GMT Message-Id: <2tvlp9$e5s@news.bu.edu> Excuse me if this has been answerd before but is there a winsock compliant version of pine in the works? If so when is it due out? -Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Angland Boston University, Dept. of Economics angland@bu.edu Computer User Support: voice: (617) 353-5689 fax: (617) 353-4449 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 18 14:56:19 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07415; Sat, 18 Jun 94 14:56:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11207; Sat, 18 Jun 94 14:52:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11201; Sat, 18 Jun 94 14:52:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qF80r-00000BC; Sat, 18 Jun 94 14:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lgolomb@epas.utoronto.ca (Liorah Golomb) Subject: Re: How To Include Non-Current Messages in Reply? Date: 18 Jun 1994 21:27:17 GMT Message-Id: <2tvorl$h3u@alpha.epas.utoronto.ca> References: horen@applicom.co.il (Jonathan B Horen) writes: >Shalom! >When I reply to the "current" message, PINE prompts me whether or not to >include the current message in my reply. My question is: >How can I include an additional message from my INBOX (or other folder) >into a reply to the "current" message? [small deletion] >¬R is fine for reading a document into the Compose Window, but what >about an email message? >Anyone got an answer? an idea? What I do is turn the mail into a Unix file, then read it in. Use the "export" function on the message(s) you want to quote, then use "read file" to read it in. I believe you lose the quote indicators though. This is the second time today I've told someone about this method - if there's an easier way I'd love to know it too! -Liorah -- Liorah Anne Golomb, "The path of my life is strewn Professional Student with cowpats from the devil's lgolomb@epas.utoronto.ca own satanic herd." -Blackadder II From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 18 15:09:49 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07644; Sat, 18 Jun 94 15:09:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11392; Sat, 18 Jun 94 15:06:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11386; Sat, 18 Jun 94 15:06:07 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24169; Sat, 18 Jun 94 15:05:58 -0700 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 15:05:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Joseph Angland Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Windows version? In-Reply-To: <2tvlp9$e5s@news.bu.edu> Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Excuse me if this has been answerd before but is there a winsock > compliant version of pine in the works? If so when is it due out? "This summer". There may even be an "early" version included in the upcoming 3.90 Beta distribution. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 18 16:47:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09191; Sat, 18 Jun 94 16:47:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13483; Sat, 18 Jun 94 16:42:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13477; Sat, 18 Jun 94 16:42:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qF9m8-00000BC; Sat, 18 Jun 94 16:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yukes@nevada.edu (P. Yukes) Subject: Can Pine reject messages Date: 18 Jun 1994 18:36:00 GMT Message-Id: <2tveqg$rgo@post-office.nevada.edu> Is there a way to set Pine 3.89 to reject messages from a certain individual, or organization (or a specific subject line)? -- Pirkko e-mail:yukes@nevada.edu -==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 18 18:32:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10804; Sat, 18 Jun 94 18:32:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14244; Sat, 18 Jun 94 18:27:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14236; Sat, 18 Jun 94 18:27:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qFBML-00000DC; Sat, 18 Jun 94 18:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mdupree@tdc.dircon.co.uk (Micky DuPree) Subject: Re: Uploading files to mail Date: 19 Jun 1994 02:04:43 +0100 Message-Id: References: <2tjhgb$ltr@tequesta.gate.net> pcfong@hkusub ((| Malboro PC |) 8D) writes: >George Chamberlin in Sunny South Florida (grc@gate.net) wrote: >: Daniel P. Franco (dano@gate.net) wrote: >: =Any help on this one will be greatly appreciated. >: =When I save an ASCII text file with Word 6.0 for Windows, and then upload >: =to my host, I notice that the carriage return control sequence (^M) is >: =present in my inserted file when I view it in PINE. >: >: =Is there a way to avoid editing my upload before inserting the file into >: =PINE? >: >: Daniel, >: Don't think so. Try this. >: >: KORN SHELL (ksh) >: Getting rid of ^M's in ascii (text) files in your UNIX directories. >: Put this function is in your .kshrc file (or .profile file). >: ...... >: (This function is in /tmp as "clean.fun" on Cybergate) >: George > > Have you tried a simpler way (I think) that you save your file in >Word 6.0 as "generic text" (Does this form exist in Word 6.0) and not >simply "ascii text". Generic text leave long sentences in one line and >do not cut them by carriage returns. And if you're using something like Zmodem for uploading you can just type: rz -a instead of: rz before you send your file, and that should strip off the ^M's quite handily. Works for me, anyway. -Micky > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 18 18:39:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10904; Sat, 18 Jun 94 18:39:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14909; Sat, 18 Jun 94 18:35:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from watson.lib.muohio.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14903; Sat, 18 Jun 94 18:35:36 -0700 Received: by watson.lib.muohio.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA10349; Sat, 18 Jun 94 21:35:34 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 21:35:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Murray Subject: Re: sort saves by... To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 17 Jun 1994, David L Miller wrote: > I think everybody is probably tired of the broken record, but... > > This feature will be available in Pine 3.90. Is there anything that *won't* be in 3.90? :-) It is starting to sound like the end-all, be-all mail user agent of the decade! Peter -- Peter Murray, Library Systems Manager pmurray@watson.lib.muohio.edu King Library Technical Support pemurray@miavx1.bitnet Miami University, Oxford, Ohio W:513/529-2884 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 18 19:44:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11973; Sat, 18 Jun 94 19:44:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15822; Sat, 18 Jun 94 19:41:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15816; Sat, 18 Jun 94 19:40:57 -0700 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA14924 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Sat, 18 Jun 1994 22:40:55 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA36748; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 22:40:38 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 22:40:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff Subject: Bug in forwarding messages To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII One of the users on our system has pointed out to me a bug in the way Pine formats forwarded messages. Apparently if you have two spaces after a period ending a sentence in the forwarded message they spaces will get deleted. Here is the original message and what happens after forwarding. Josh Hosseinoff ---- hosseino@yu1.yu.edu This is my test message which contains some sentences. After each period there are two spaces in it. You will notice that after forwarding the two spaces after each period get deleted. Odd, wouldn't you say? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 22:35:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: Joshua Hosseinoff Subject: Test Message This is my test message which contains some sentences.After each period there are two spaces in it.You will notice that after forwarding the two spaces after each period get deleted.Odd, wouldn't you say? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 19 05:58:07 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23452; Sun, 19 Jun 94 05:58:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24438; Sun, 19 Jun 94 05:54:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24432; Sun, 19 Jun 94 05:54:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qFM7q-00000BC; Sun, 19 Jun 94 05:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: df@christa.unh.edu (Dan Ford) Subject: Re: Bug in forwarding messages Date: 19 Jun 1994 12:27:01 GMT Message-Id: <2u1dil$7uq@mozz.unh.edu> References: >One of the users on our system has pointed out to me a bug in the way >Pine formats forwarded messages. Apparently if you have two spaces after >a period ending a sentence in the forwarded message they spaces will get >deleted. Here is the original message and what happens after forwarding. (stuff deleted) We were taught in typing class to leave 2 spaces after the period. Now that more and more books are set from the author's computer disks, editors are trying to get us to stop this ancient and rather silly practice. A sentence is just as legible with one space as two. In fact, now that I have switched to this practice, the old system looks strange. Maybe Pine was written by a former book editor who had to go through a thousand page manuscript removing the extra space at the end of every sentence :-) -- - Dan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 19 07:44:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24772; Sun, 19 Jun 94 07:44:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25595; Sun, 19 Jun 94 07:39:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25589; Sun, 19 Jun 94 07:39:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qFNlA-00000BC; Sun, 19 Jun 94 07:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mjoneill@clark.net (Michael J. O'Neill) Subject: ISO filter for Pine Date: 19 Jun 1994 14:19:32 GMT Message-Id: <2u1k5k$q00@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone point me in the direction of a front-end filter which I can use with Pine which will allow me to route new mail to a folder based on the sender's address? I would also, of course, need it to notify me when new mail is received regardless of which folder it has been routed to. Thanks! Mike mjoneill@clark.net -- 'Nuff said. The opinions expressed are my own. No flames, please, but comments are welcome. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 19 07:44:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24793; Sun, 19 Jun 94 07:44:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25756; Sun, 19 Jun 94 07:39:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25750; Sun, 19 Jun 94 07:39:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qFNkz-000005C; Sun, 19 Jun 94 07:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pbarber@eskimo.com (Putnam Barber) Subject: Re: Uploading files to mail Message-Id: References: <2ti37l$cp3@tequesta.gate.net> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 13:47:24 GMT If your host is a unix system, you will need to make (minor?) changes in the format of your file to avoid these problems. Some 'loading protocols will do it for you.... the -a option on zmodem is supposed to do the trick of letting unix know the incoming file is dos/ascii and telling it to sort things out. There's also a program on my system that will do this for you once the file is in the unix environment: dos2unix .... and its reverse unix2dos for when you need to send something back. Even when I do all of this just as I've been taught, though, pine often complains about the last line of my file (after ^R) and when I look there's a "^Z" (no quotes) there. Dunno why. Putnam Barber Seattle Daniel P. Franco (dano@gate.net) wrote: : Any help on this one will be greatly appreciated. : When I save an ASCII text file with Word 6.0 for Windows, and then upload : to my host, I notice that the carriage return control sequence (^M) is : present in my inserted file when I view it in PINE. : The interesting thing is that some recipients of the mail get gibberish : on their screens while others get the message intact. : Could the ^M characters be responsible for corrupting the mail message? : Is there a way to avoid editing my upload before inserting the file into : PINE? : Thanks in advance. : : -- : ============================================ : | Daniel P. Franco dano@gate.net | : ============================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 19 08:42:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25614; Sun, 19 Jun 94 08:42:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26604; Sun, 19 Jun 94 08:39:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26598; Sun, 19 Jun 94 08:39:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qFOfY-000005C; Sun, 19 Jun 94 08:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Chelloveck) Subject: Re: sort saves by... Message-Id: <1994Jun19.134807.5028@pshrink.chi.il.us> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 13:48:07 GMT References: pmurray@watson.lib.muohio.edu (Peter Murray) publicly declared: >Is there anything that *won't* be in 3.90? :-) It is starting to sound >like the end-all, be-all mail user agent of the decade! I have it on good authority that the Holy Grail *won't* be in 3.90. You'll have to wait until 3.91 for that. :-) -- ------------------------------------------ "This paperclip will serve as an antenna, grabbing neutrinos from the cosmos and providing ignition for this craft." "Astonishing, Brain! Um, will it also roast marshmallows?" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 19 11:14:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27896; Sun, 19 Jun 94 11:14:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28736; Sun, 19 Jun 94 11:10:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28728; Sun, 19 Jun 94 11:10:49 -0700 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA04841 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Sun, 19 Jun 1994 14:10:41 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA39727; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 14:10:23 -0400 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 14:10:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff Reply-To: Joshua Hosseinoff Subject: Re: Bug in forwarding messages To: Dan Ford Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2u1dil$7uq@mozz.unh.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On 19 Jun 1994, Dan Ford wrote: > We were taught in typing class to leave 2 spaces after the period. Now > that more and more books are set from the author's computer disks, > editors are trying to get us to stop this ancient and rather silly > practice. A sentence is just as legible with one space as two. In fact, > now that I have switched to this practice, the old system looks strange. Except this bug in Pine converts 2 spaces after a period to none, and leaves one space after a period the same. And it only does it when forwarding mail. Personally, I'm a bit of a tradionalist and it will be a long time coming before I switch to 1 space. :) Josh Hosseinoff ----- hosseino@yu1.yu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 19 11:52:23 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28508; Sun, 19 Jun 94 11:52:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29338; Sun, 19 Jun 94 11:48:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29332; Sun, 19 Jun 94 11:48:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qFRc9-000005C; Sun, 19 Jun 94 11:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: grendel@netaxs.com (Michael Handler) Subject: Re: sort saves by... Date: 19 Jun 1994 18:17:33 GMT Message-Id: <2u223t$fth@netaxs.com> References: Peter Murray (pmurray@watson.lib.muohio.edu) wrote: > On Fri, 17 Jun 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > I think everybody is probably tired of the broken record, but... > > > > This feature will be available in Pine 3.90. > Is there anything that *won't* be in 3.90? :-) It is starting to sound > like the end-all, be-all mail user agent of the decade! Pine 3.90 will be the UberMailer. All others will wither and die and suffer bit rot under it's mighty power. :) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Brandt Handler Philadelphia, PA PGP v2.6 public key on request Boycott PSI, Inc. & Canter & Siegel <> 1984: We're Behind Schedule From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 19 12:18:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28953; Sun, 19 Jun 94 12:18:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29669; Sun, 19 Jun 94 12:14:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29663; Sun, 19 Jun 94 12:14:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qFS1p-000005C; Sun, 19 Jun 94 11:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: df@christa.unh.edu (Dan Ford) Subject: Re: Uploading files to mail Date: 19 Jun 1994 18:43:04 GMT Message-Id: <2u23jo$bbb@mozz.unh.edu> References: <2ti37l$cp3@tequesta.gate.net> >send something back. Even when I do all of this just as I've been >taught, though, pine often complains about the last line of my file >(after ^R) and when I look there's a "^Z" (no quotes) there. Dunno why. Yeah, I get a whole over-length line of Zs after a Kermit upload. I associate it with the beep-beep that ends the Kermit session. (Doesn't happen the other way, though.) I always pico the file after it gets on the host computer. I've never had trouble with the ctrl-Ms that others have mentioned. Maybe because I'm doing a binary upload? (Kermit does binary whether I want it or not. It doesn't cause any problem going or coming.) -- - Dan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 19 17:28:13 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03790; Sun, 19 Jun 94 17:28:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04088; Sun, 19 Jun 94 17:23:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04082; Sun, 19 Jun 94 17:23:56 -0700 Received: from atlas3 (atlas3.ccs.deakin.edu.au [128.184.102.103]) by sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA19427 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 09:19:48 +1000 Message-Id: <199406192319.JAA19427@sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au> X-Sender: carterp@mail-w.deakin.edu.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 09:19:55 +1100 To: pine-info@washington.edu From: carterp@deakin.edu.au (Phil Carter) Subject: unsubscribe me X-Mailer: unsubscribe me Phil Carter, Ph. 61 55 633427 Computing & Communications Services, Fax 61 55 633226 Deakin University, Warrnambool, Victoria, Australia 3280 email: carterp@deakin.edu.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 19 19:49:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06326; Sun, 19 Jun 94 19:49:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06085; Sun, 19 Jun 94 19:45:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06079; Sun, 19 Jun 94 19:45:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qFZ2O-000005C; Sun, 19 Jun 94 19:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pcfong@hkusub ((| Malboro PC |) 8D) Subject: Re: TOF and EOF Message-Id: References: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 02:13:34 GMT CAPT Tim Taylor USN (ttaylor@pens-emh3.ncts.navy.mil) wrote: : Here's another way to go to the top of a message with just two keystrokes: : Press i to return to the index : Press return to display your message from the top. : Isn't this tedious enough? Hope we can get heuristic cursor movement soon in PINE/PICO. -- Malboro Fong pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. Those who WATCH things happen. Those who WONDER what happened. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 20 06:19:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18614; Mon, 20 Jun 94 06:19:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14457; Mon, 20 Jun 94 06:09:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14451; Mon, 20 Jun 94 06:09:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qFioN-00000OC; Mon, 20 Jun 94 05:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jtklehto@stekt.oulu.fi (Janne Kukonlehto) Subject: Re: sort saves by... Date: 20 Jun 1994 12:43:50 GMT Message-Id: <2u42u6$gq3@ousrvr.oulu.fi> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Peter Murray (pmurray@watson.lib.muohio.edu) wrote: > On Fri, 17 Jun 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > I think everybody is probably tired of the broken record, but... > > > > This feature will be available in Pine 3.90. > > Is there anything that *won't* be in 3.90? :-) It is starting to sound > like the end-all, be-all mail user agent of the decade! With this infinite set of features to implement Pine 3.90 will probably never be ready. How about saving some features for 3.91 and releasing 3.90 sooner? -- Janne Kukonlehto jtklehto@phoenix.oulu.fi http://phoenix.oulu.fi/~jtklehto/index.html jtklehto@stekt.oulu.fi http://stekt.oulu.fi/~jtklehto/index.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 20 07:48:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20474; Mon, 20 Jun 94 07:48:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15888; Mon, 20 Jun 94 07:39:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15882; Mon, 20 Jun 94 07:39:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qFkG2-000005C; Mon, 20 Jun 94 07:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dob@umich.edu (David McCullough Dobson) Subject: Marking files as answered Date: 20 Jun 1994 14:05:30 GMT Message-Id: <2u47na$cfd@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Is there a way to mark a letter answered without actually answering it? I ask this because when I reply to a letter and then postpone it and then continue it, Pine 3.89 fails to mark the original letter answered. I rely on the A tag to tell me who I need to reply to. I have gotten around this by replying to the message and then changing the address to my own and sending a dummy letter to myself (which does add the A tag to the original letter), but this seems like a lot of work. This would also be useful if you have several letters from one person and answer all of them in one reply letter. Thanks, Dave From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 20 08:53:49 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22471; Mon, 20 Jun 94 08:53:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18190; Mon, 20 Jun 94 08:45:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18181; Mon, 20 Jun 94 08:44:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qFlFc-000005C; Mon, 20 Jun 94 08:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calfeld@eratosth (Chris Alfeld) Subject: Re: Can you make a public folder? Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 14:43:48 GMT Message-Id: <1994Jun19.144348.4375@math.utah.edu> References: <1994Jun17.201119.6623@pmafire.inel.gov> Dave Black (daveb@pmafire.inel.gov) wrote: : Does anyone know of a way to make folder resemble a bulletin : board, where users can read and post and it be shared with : all other email users on the system? : I think I could do it with a local newgroup and NNTP access, : but I guess I'll need rev 3.90 before posting becomes : available. Any Ideas? Make a folder in pine and then use the command: chmod 777 ~/mail/ now anyone can use the folder with the command: pine -f ~/mail/ Note: is your login name, and is whatever folder you create. Note2: Some systems may require the directory to be 777 as well. If this is the case I suggest you put it in /usr/tmp or some such directory. -- -Chris (calfeld@math.utah.edu calfeld@east.east-slc.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 20 09:39:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24738; Mon, 20 Jun 94 09:39:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18438; Mon, 20 Jun 94 09:30:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18432; Mon, 20 Jun 94 09:30:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qFlwR-000005C; Mon, 20 Jun 94 09:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Bug in forwarding messages Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 09:00:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: This is especially odd since I cannot seem to duplicate this problem... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 19 Jun 1994, Joshua Hosseinoff wrote: > One of the users on our system has pointed out to me a bug in the way > Pine formats forwarded messages. Apparently if you have two spaces after > a period ending a sentence in the forwarded message they spaces will get > deleted. Here is the original message and what happens after forwarding. > > Josh Hosseinoff ---- hosseino@yu1.yu.edu > > This is my test message which contains some sentences. After each period > there are two spaces in it. You will notice that after forwarding the > two spaces after each period get deleted. Odd, wouldn't you say? > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 22:35:18 -0400 (EDT) > From: Joshua Hosseinoff > To: Joshua Hosseinoff > Subject: Test Message > > This is my test message which contains some sentences.After each period > there are two spaces in it.You will notice that after forwarding the > two spaces after each period get deleted.Odd, wouldn't you say? > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 20 09:49:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24999; Mon, 20 Jun 94 09:49:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19767; Mon, 20 Jun 94 09:40:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19761; Mon, 20 Jun 94 09:40:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qFm6s-00000FC; Mon, 20 Jun 94 09:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Marking files as answered Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 09:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2u47na$cfd@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Dare I say it? These features will be available in Pine 3.90. --DLM P.S. When I say a feature _will_ be in Pine 3.90, that means we already have working code, or at least experimental code. If I say a feature _may_ be in 3.90, it hasn't been written yet... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 20 Jun 1994, David McCullough Dobson wrote: > Is there a way to mark a letter answered without actually answering > it? I ask this because when I reply to a letter and then postpone > it and then continue it, Pine 3.89 fails to mark the original letter > answered. I rely on the A tag to tell me who I need to reply to. > I have gotten around this by replying to the message and then > changing the address to my own and sending a dummy letter to myself > (which does add the A tag to the original letter), but this seems > like a lot of work. > > This would also be useful if you have several letters from one > person and answer all of them in one reply letter. > > Thanks, > > Dave > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 20 10:01:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25334; Mon, 20 Jun 94 10:01:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19020; Mon, 20 Jun 94 09:55:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19014; Mon, 20 Jun 94 09:55:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qFmNK-000005C; Mon, 20 Jun 94 09:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chuck@cedar.plexus.com (Chuck Tomasi) Subject: Saving to Folders in Subdirectories Date: 20 Jun 1994 11:31:11 -0500 Message-Id: <2u4g8f$j1m@navajo.pd.tgi.plexus.com> I was wondering if there was an easy way (or if it will be in a future release) to save mail to folders in subdirectories. Actually saving isn't the problem, it is when you use the ^T (to Fldrs) option that Pine (v3.89) has a problem. When browsing files to read in, it prompts something to the affect "This is a subdirectory, change into it?" When saving files using the browser it doesn't do that. I can save messages if I put the pathname in myself, but often I forget directory or filenames and have to open another window (if in a windowed environment) or save it somewhere else and revisit it later. It just seemed inconsistent. -- Chuck Tomasi | Systems Administrator | (414)751-3327 (voice) Anti-time heals| Technology Group Inc. | (414)722-3220 (fax) all wounds | Chuck.Tomasi@plexus.com | URL http://www.plexus.com/~chuck/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 20 11:37:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29729; Mon, 20 Jun 94 11:37:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22623; Mon, 20 Jun 94 11:30:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22617; Mon, 20 Jun 94 11:30:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qFnpw-000005C; Mon, 20 Jun 94 11:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: willem@access.ods.gulfnet.kw (Willem H. B. Dubelaar) Subject: Re: Uploading files to mail Date: 20 Jun 1994 17:20:54 GMT Message-Id: <2u4j5m$iul@gulfa.ods.gulfnet.kw> References: <2tjhgb$ltr@tequesta.gate.net> (| Malboro PC |) 8D (pcfong@hkusub) wrote: > George Chamberlin in Sunny South Florida (grc@gate.net) wrote: > : Daniel P. Franco (dano@gate.net) wrote: > : =Any help on this one will be greatly appreciated. > : =When I save an ASCII text file with Word 6.0 for Windows, and then upload > : =to my host, I notice that the carriage return control sequence (^M) is > : =present in my inserted file when I view it in PINE. > : > : =Is there a way to avoid editing my upload before inserting the file into > : =PINE? > : After uploading, from the directory where your file was uploaded to, type at the prompt: dos2unix then read into your letter/article as usual. You'll find that the control characters disappear (and the file becomes slightly smaller) -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Willem Dubelaar | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| PO Box 1387, KWT-13014 Safat, Kuwait Leave the thinking to the horses | Auhofstrasse 12/5/3, A-1130 Vienna, Austria They've got bigger heads........ | /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 20 11:47:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00407; Mon, 20 Jun 94 11:47:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21795; Mon, 20 Jun 94 11:40:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21789; Mon, 20 Jun 94 11:40:08 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21854; Mon, 20 Jun 94 11:40:07 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28470; Mon, 20 Jun 94 11:14:25 -0700 Received: from chinook.halcyon.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21186; Mon, 20 Jun 94 11:14:23 -0700 Received: by halcyon.com id AA07503 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Mon, 20 Jun 1994 11:14:22 -0700 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 11:14:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Barton L. Walker" Subject: Terminal types To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 11:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: We have recently installed pine3.89 on our Sequent computer running under the ptx version 2.10 operating system. We did our compile using the build ptx option. Things work fine for vt100 terminal users but things are not fine for our wyse 60 users. We think pine is not properly accessing our system terminfo files. Did we miss turning on a flag at compile time? Or this there another way to get pine to use our terminfo file? Thank you. Bart Walker Romac Industries, Inc. Seattle, WA 206 -382-6737 bart@halcyon.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 20 12:07:56 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01484; Mon, 20 Jun 94 12:07:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23526; Mon, 20 Jun 94 11:57:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from usc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23518; Mon, 20 Jun 94 11:57:35 -0700 Received: from Law.USC.EDU by usc.edu (4.1/SMI-3.0DEV3-USC+3.1) id AA05475; Mon, 20 Jun 94 11:57:33 PDT Received: from hal-Law.USC.EDU (hal) by Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24448; Mon, 20 Jun 94 11:57:33 PDT Received: by hal-Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15388; Mon, 20 Jun 94 11:57:30 PDT Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 11:57:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Elmar Kurgpold Subject: Wierd Windows/Clipboard/Pine question To: Pine Info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I promised to post this question to get myself out of a corner....so here goes. A user in my building is using Procomm for Windows or some such thing to dial into our system from home. I think that he likes to compose a message in WordPerfect (windows or DOS, I just don't know, doesn't matter). Then he copies the text into the Windows clipboard, switches to Procomm. When he does the paste into the compose screen in Pine, he says it is extremely slow. He used to do this when we used UCB mail, and the response was instantaneous. I vaguely understand why this occurs, but I have difficulty explaining it to a novice. If you have any clues, feel free to let me know. If someone has an answer, good/bad/flame/other, please e-mail to me. Thanks. ------------------------------------- ,-,,-, __ | Elmar Kurgpold | ______/ /_,' | | Network Administrator | \________________/ | University of Southern California | |\) (/ | | The Law Center | ( | oo | "My mind has wandered | ekurgpol@Law.USC.EDU | ) `| |--' from the flock, you see | (213)740-2571 FAX: (213)740-5502 | (___^^^^| And the flock has ------------------------------------- (____' wandered away from me" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 20 12:19:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01828; Mon, 20 Jun 94 12:19:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22581; Mon, 20 Jun 94 12:10:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22571; Mon, 20 Jun 94 12:10:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qFoTf-000005C; Mon, 20 Jun 94 11:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Saving to Folders in Subdirectories Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 11:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2u4g8f$j1m@navajo.pd.tgi.plexus.com> Pine does not yet support heirarchical folder collections. In the mean time, you can define a folder-collection for each sub-directory, then ^T through the appropriate collection. Heirarchical folder collections will probably be available in Pine 4.0. --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 20 Jun 1994, Chuck Tomasi wrote: > I was wondering if there was an easy way (or if it will be in a future > release) to save mail to folders in subdirectories. Actually saving > isn't the problem, it is when you use the ^T (to Fldrs) option that Pine > (v3.89) has a problem. When browsing files to read in, it prompts > something to the affect "This is a subdirectory, change into it?" When > saving files using the browser it doesn't do that. I can save messages > if I put the pathname in myself, but often I forget directory or > filenames and have to open another window (if in a windowed environment) > or save it somewhere else and revisit it later. It just seemed > inconsistent. > -- > > Chuck Tomasi | Systems Administrator | (414)751-3327 (voice) > Anti-time heals| Technology Group Inc. | (414)722-3220 (fax) > all wounds | Chuck.Tomasi@plexus.com | URL http://www.plexus.com/~chuck/ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 20 12:33:53 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02291; Mon, 20 Jun 94 12:33:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24183; Mon, 20 Jun 94 12:24:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from chinook.halcyon.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24175; Mon, 20 Jun 94 12:24:26 -0700 Received: by halcyon.com id AA22460 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Mon, 20 Jun 1994 12:24:25 -0700 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 12:24:25 -0700 (PDT) From: ROBERT M WOOD Subject: Re: Request change to pine address book parameters. To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > To Whom it may concern: > > Is it possible to expand the first group in the address book? > Presently is has 20 spaces and I'm not able to get the total > address typed in the present configuration: ie. "73303.3505@compuserve.com" or "profnet@profitnet.com". > As you can see these require at least 25 spaces. > I'm just wondering if others are experiencing this problem? > > Please adjust if space is available - possibly takening some > space from the center group might work. > > Thank you for your attention to this matter: > > WOULDHE > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 20 14:53:47 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07675; Mon, 20 Jun 94 14:53:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27974; Mon, 20 Jun 94 14:45:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27968; Mon, 20 Jun 94 14:45:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qFqso-000005C; Mon, 20 Jun 94 14:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dob@umich.edu (David McCullough Dobson) Subject: Re: Marking files as answered Date: 20 Jun 1994 21:14:15 GMT Message-Id: <2u50r7$f99@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: >Dare I say it? These features will be available in Pine 3.90. > >--DLM Have you considered a career in politics? :-) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 20 15:35:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09042; Mon, 20 Jun 94 15:35:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28766; Mon, 20 Jun 94 15:26:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from psi.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28760; Mon, 20 Jun 94 15:26:21 -0700 Received: from uu4.psi.com by psi.com (4.1/2.1-PSI/PSINet) id AA17033; Mon, 20 Jun 94 18:26:11 EDT Received: by uu4.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA08973 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 94 18:21:57 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 15:21:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Walter Everett Subject: unsubscribe To: pine-info%cac.washington.edu@psi.com In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe unsubscribe waltere@assi.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 20 15:52:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09607; Mon, 20 Jun 94 15:52:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27368; Mon, 20 Jun 94 15:43:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27362; Mon, 20 Jun 94 15:43:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qFrjH-000005C; Mon, 20 Jun 94 15:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Request change to pine address book parameters. Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 15:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: The first column in the addressbook is the nickname field. It is not intended to have full addresses. The email address should go in the third column. The middle and right hand columns will accept and retain values much longer than will fit the display, so you should not have length problems there. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 20 Jun 1994, ROBERT M WOOD wrote: > > > > > > To Whom it may concern: > > > > Is it possible to expand the first group in the address book? > > Presently is has 20 spaces and I'm not able to get the total > > address typed in the present configuration: ie. > "73303.3505@compuserve.com" or "profnet@profitnet.com". > > As you can see these require at least 25 spaces. > > I'm just wondering if others are experiencing this problem? > > > > Please adjust if space is available - possibly takening some > > space from the center group might work. > > > > > Thank you for your attention to this matter: > > > > WOULDHE > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 20 17:22:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13310; Mon, 20 Jun 94 17:22:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01580; Mon, 20 Jun 94 17:13:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01574; Mon, 20 Jun 94 17:13:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qFt7U-00000LC; Mon, 20 Jun 94 16:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jirka@tahoma.cwu.edu (Ian Jirka) Subject: .sig allways at top Date: 20 Jun 1994 16:25:39 -0700 Message-Id: <2u58hj$j2e@tahoma.cwu.edu> Howdy. Whenever I reply to a message, pine puts my .sig at the top of the message. I would prefer to have it put at the bottom. Is this possible? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -Ian Jirka | No Fancy Artwork Here! -jirka@tahoma.cwu.edu | Systems Analyst/Programmer I -jirka@cluster.cwu.edu | Central Washington University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 20 18:14:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14531; Mon, 20 Jun 94 18:14:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00501; Mon, 20 Jun 94 18:06:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00495; Mon, 20 Jun 94 18:06:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qFu1Z-000005C; Mon, 20 Jun 94 17:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hribnak@nucleus.com (Jim Hribnak) Subject: Filtering Email to folders Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 00:06:50 GMT From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 20 18:28:16 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14879; Mon, 20 Jun 94 18:28:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02821; Mon, 20 Jun 94 18:20:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02815; Mon, 20 Jun 94 18:20:36 -0700 Received: from atlas3 (atlas3.ccs.deakin.edu.au [128.184.102.103]) by sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA25346 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 11:20:30 +1000 Message-Id: <199406210120.LAA25346@sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au> X-Sender: carterp@mail-w.deakin.edu.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 11:19:13 +1100 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: carterp@deakin.edu.au (Phil Carter) Subject: How do I unsubscribe? X-Mailer: How do I unsubscribe from the Pine mailing list? Phil Carter, Ph. 61 55 633427 Computing & Communications Services, Fax 61 55 633226 Deakin University, Warrnambool, Victoria, Australia 3280 email: carterp@deakin.edu.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 20 19:09:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15632; Mon, 20 Jun 94 19:09:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01417; Mon, 20 Jun 94 19:01:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from wolfe.wimsey.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01411; Mon, 20 Jun 94 19:01:52 -0700 Received: by wolfe.wimsey.com (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0qFv8t-0008aBC; Mon, 20 Jun 94 19:00 PDT Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.00/200.1.1.4) id AA08654; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 18:23:32 -0700 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 18:23:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: Re: Terminal types To: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 20 Jun 1994, Barton L. Walker wrote: > build ptx option. Things work fine for vt100 terminal users but things > are not fine for our wyse 60 users. We think pine is not properly accessing > our system terminfo files. Did we miss turning on a flag at compile > time? Or this there another way to get pine to use our terminfo file? Wyse uses ^K etc as valid cursor control keys. PINE is HARDCODED as to what moves the cursor etc. :( It would be really nice if terminfo/termcap capability were added. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl3.wimsey.com | |System Administration, hampson@wimsey.com | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | | | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 20 23:54:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21168; Mon, 20 Jun 94 23:54:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08556; Mon, 20 Jun 94 23:44:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08550; Mon, 20 Jun 94 23:44:06 -0700 Received: by poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it (5.65/1.34) id AA05728; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 08:49:41 +0200 Organization: Istituto di Fisica Cosmica e Tecnologie Relative Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 08:49:41 +0200 (MET DST) From: Lucio Chiappetti Reply-To: Lucio Chiappetti Subject: Re: Pine crashing on "rich header" ? To: "D. L. Miller" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Fri, 17 Jun 1994, it was written: > > Do any of the addresses expand to fill the line completely? There is a > known bug in Pine 3.89 that causes a crash on very long address lines... > Yes, some of them are long, although none of them overflows one line. I have seen in the past single addresses overflowing one line handled successfully. Also I am puzzled by the fact that the behaviour is not reproducible (sometimes it crashes, sometimes not) on the same address list. The following are the addresses giving the problems last time : >From lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it Tue Jun 21 08:46:53 1994 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 15:00:11 +0200 (MET DST) From: Lucio Chiappetti To: Monique Arnaud - SAp Saclay , Martin Turner - Leicester , Claus Reppin - MPE Garching , Boer - CESR Toulouse , Chris Goodall - Birmingham , E Kendziorra - AIT Tubingen , Massimo Trifoglio - TESRE Bcc: drew@ifctr.mi.cnr.it Subject: EPIC Communication Questionnaire ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 02:16:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24247; Tue, 21 Jun 94 02:16:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10616; Tue, 21 Jun 94 02:02:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mailgate.ul.ie by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10610; Tue, 21 Jun 94 02:01:57 -0700 Received: from itdsrv1.ul.ie by mailgate.ul.ie with SMTP (PP) id <20410-0@mailgate.ul.ie>; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 10:06:31 +0000 Received: by itdsrv1.ul.ie (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA10120; Tue, 21 Jun 94 10:05:44 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 10:05:43 +0100 (WET DST) From: Denis Hickey Subject: To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Unsubscribe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Denis Hickey Information Technology Dept Email: Hickeyd@ul.ie University of Limerick Phone: +353-61-333644 Eire ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 03:19:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25388; Tue, 21 Jun 94 03:19:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08527; Tue, 21 Jun 94 03:12:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08521; Tue, 21 Jun 94 03:12:18 -0700 Received: from ester.dsv.su.se by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21669; Tue, 21 Jun 94 03:12:17 -0700 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SUNET/ADMD=_/C=SE/; Relayed; 21 Jun 94 11:24:56+0200 Date: 21 Jun 94 11:24:56+0200 From: Denis Hickey Message-Id: <737863*@su-kom.dsv.su.se> To: "Pine mailer discussions group (pine-infoEcac.washington.edu)" , pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 07:12:05 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00465; Tue, 21 Jun 94 07:12:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15000; Tue, 21 Jun 94 06:57:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14994; Tue, 21 Jun 94 06:57:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qG5wj-00000IC; Tue, 21 Jun 94 06:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bogusz@fuw.edu.pl (Wojtek Bogusz) Subject: PGP with pine !? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:26:18 GMT Hello, I am surprised. Few weeks ago I asked a question about any attempts to put PGP public-key criptosystem into pine. And I got no respond at all. Those that mean: Nobody is interested in having this available on hand in automatic way in pine ? Is it true ?! I assume everybody knows what is PGP and public-key way of cripting or signing a mail. I have PGP 2.6ui version (UI stands for Unofficial International release). And as far as I know it can be used with out restrictions (am I right ? :-), so ... Cheers, Wojtek From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 08:11:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02246; Tue, 21 Jun 94 08:11:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12877; Tue, 21 Jun 94 08:02:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12871; Tue, 21 Jun 94 08:02:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qG74A-00000BC; Tue, 21 Jun 94 07:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: emv@garnet.msen.com (Edward Vielmetti) Subject: Re: can pine use mh-style folders? Date: 21 Jun 1994 14:44:12 GMT Message-Id: <2u6ubs$lgv$1@heifetz.msen.com> References: David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : To get full MH support you need to either rebuild Pine 3.89 with the latest : IMAP toolkit, or wait for Pine 3.90, which should be available in a few : weeks. I trust that this then adds read/write support for MH folders in imapd ? The version we have running here lets you read MH folders, but not delete messages from them, I just want to be sure that we land on the right version... --Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 08:12:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02343; Tue, 21 Jun 94 08:12:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12787; Tue, 21 Jun 94 07:57:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12781; Tue, 21 Jun 94 07:57:43 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07081; Tue, 21 Jun 94 07:57:31 -0700 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 07:57:30 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Lucio Chiappetti Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine crashing on "rich header" ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It looks like you do have one address there that will probably overflow the line. The problem only occurs if you move the cursor back into the header and out again after the long address is in the list. If you just add the address and never go back into that header, you should be OK. This problem will be fixed in the upcoming Pine 3.90 release. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 21 Jun 1994, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > On Fri, 17 Jun 1994, it was written: > > > > > Do any of the addresses expand to fill the line completely? There is a > > known bug in Pine 3.89 that causes a crash on very long address lines... > > > Yes, some of them are long, although none of them overflows one line. > I have seen in the past single addresses overflowing one line handled > successfully. > Also I am puzzled by the fact that the behaviour is not reproducible > (sometimes it crashes, sometimes not) on the same address list. > > The following are the addresses giving the problems last time : > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 08:45:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03290; Tue, 21 Jun 94 08:45:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17077; Tue, 21 Jun 94 08:35:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17071; Tue, 21 Jun 94 08:35:32 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08176; Tue, 21 Jun 94 08:35:32 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01479; Tue, 21 Jun 94 07:48:26 -0700 Received: from amis06.ami.alcoa.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15993; Tue, 21 Jun 94 07:48:21 -0700 Received: from SSW.ALCOA.COM by amis06.ami.alcoa.com with SMTP; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 10:50:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by SSW.ALCOA.COM (Soft*Switch Central V4L380P5) id 405041100094172FBTWCC02; 21 Jun 1994 09:24:09 GMT Message-Id: Date: 21 Jun 1994 09:24:09 GMT From: "Matt T. Simmons" Subject: Re: PGP with pine !? To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Comment: MEMO 1994/06/21 10:35 Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 08:35:27 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: The reason why nobody gave an answer is because it's been beaten to death on this mailing list/newsgroup. The general consensus was (from the Pine Development Team) that including PGP was sort of a gray area legally, and that they were waiting for it to clear up before including anything. Either that or it's in Pine 3.90, right next to the kitchen sink. =) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: PGP with pine !? Author: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu at ~AMSCCSSW Date: 6/21/94 10:08 AM Hello, I am surprised. Few weeks ago I asked a question about any attempts to put PGP public-key criptosystem into pine. And I got no respond at all. Those that mean: Nobody is interested in having this available on hand in automatic way in pine ? Is it true ?! I assume everybody knows what is PGP and public-key way of cripting or signing a mail. I have PGP 2.6ui version (UI stands for Unofficial International release). And as far as I know it can be used with out restrictions (am I right ? :-), so ... Cheers, Wojtek From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 09:14:54 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05366; Tue, 21 Jun 94 09:14:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14631; Tue, 21 Jun 94 09:08:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14625; Tue, 21 Jun 94 09:08:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qG84K-00000FC; Tue, 21 Jun 94 08:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Incompatibility between Eudora and Pine Date: 21 Jun 1994 15:24:04 GMT Message-Id: <2u70ml$8g9@news.ysu.edu> References: In a previous article, sti@cs.hut.fi (Sami-Jaakko Tikka) says: >I write a message in Pine. I use X and am operating in xterm where I can >use ISO-LATIN-1 charset. This is all well and good, however, note the headers which are generated by pine... >Message-Id: >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE This is a known bug with Pine's MIME logic -- you have not specified a particular character set in either your personal .pinerc configuration file, or the system-wide /usr/local/lib/pine.conf file. Pine defaults to US-ASCII if not told otherwise, whether or not you have managed to include 8-bit data. Probably every installation outside the USA should configure the character set to something appropriate. Even installations within the US wouldn't hurt to do the same. I spent a couple days recently consulting with people who wanted to be able to send mail in languages other than English. They were able to correctly view the Spanish and French and German texts I had sent them on their X terminals, although they were cautioned that their display, supposedly US-ASCII, might not display the ISO8859-1 text correctly. As a side note, it appears that if you have US-ASCII set and a communications path on Unix as cs7, Pine will prevent you from typing 8-bit characters, but you can get them with an alternate editor. As soon as you either give the equivalent of an "stty pass8" command to make your input 8-bit-clean, OR define Pine's character set as anything other than US-ASCII but still with cs7, Pine will then accept your 8-bit characters. So it appears that Pine is trying to keep you from typing non-ASCII characters unless you define your character set, but it seems to fail when: You have 8-bit tty setting, you use alternate editor, or (perhaps) you reply to 8-bit message. >T=E4m=E4 on testiviesti, joka on kirjoitettu Pine:lla rst2:ssa. Without a character set encoding, I wouldn't know if hexadecimal character E4 is supposed to represent lowercase a with diaeresis, Cyrillic small letter ef, Arabic letter lam, Greek delta, a different Cyrillic KOI8-R character, a Japanese character, a Korean character, and so on, or a different character to match a PC or Macintosh code page. Eudora doesn't either, and I guess it assumes Mac. >showing the scandinavian characters in a wrong charset. If I conseqently >choose from the Eudora charset menu "ISO Latin1->Mac", I get the characters >as they should be. This is because your Pine configuration does not give Pine enough information that it can tag the message with the proper character set encoding. As soon as your system-wide configuration file is set for the ISO8859-1 character set, I would imagine you will have no problems. You could say that if Pine has to use QUOTED-PRINTABLE encoding, it should know not to tag the message with US-ASCII, and maybe it would work to default to ISO8859-1, but then, that would be wrong for Asian or eastern European or Russian users, whose default character set would be decidedly not the same as yours. I don't know what the best solution to help Pine work around configuration problems such as this would be... -- Barry Bouwsma, back in Michigan, wishes he were in Europe MIME mail to , ASCII text to Unemployed System Cracker and Unix Administrator, seeking work, food, warmth, companionship, free airline tickets, and lots of money From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 09:45:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06390; Tue, 21 Jun 94 09:45:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15348; Tue, 21 Jun 94 09:37:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15342; Tue, 21 Jun 94 09:37:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qG8Va-00000DC; Tue, 21 Jun 94 09:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schake@tesuque.cs.sandia.gov (Stefan Chakerian) Subject: Re: Can Pine reject messages Date: 20 Jun 1994 22:11:21 -0600 Message-Id: <2u5p99$med@tesuque.cs.sandia.gov> References: <2tveqg$rgo@post-office.nevada.edu> >Is there a way to set Pine 3.89 to reject messages from a certain >individual, or organization (or a specific subject line)? There is a very good program called procmail that can handle this. It is done through your .forward. If you can't get procmail, you may look into filter. Use archie or something to find it or ask a LOCAL guru. stef -- Stefan Chakerian Good, fast, cheap. Pick two. schake@tesuque.cs.sandia.gov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 10:30:47 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08053; Tue, 21 Jun 94 10:30:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20097; Tue, 21 Jun 94 10:22:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20091; Tue, 21 Jun 94 10:22:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qG9F4-00000DC; Tue, 21 Jun 94 10:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mfs@ace.ecosoft.com (mike sprague) Subject: FAQ and/or help with imapd Date: 21 Jun 1994 12:43:26 -0400 Message-Id: <2u75be$ne@ace.ecosoft.com> Hi everyone, I've looked for the faq for this newsgroup and I could not find it. Does one exist and if so can someone email me and let me know where it is? I'd really appreciate it. I'm also having problems getting imapd to run on my mail server. When ever I send a HUP to inetd, I get the following error in my messages file: Jun 21 12:23:13 northshore inetd[240]: imap/tcp: socket: Protocol not supported I'm running SunOS 4.1.3_U1 on a Sparc2. There are no typos and the lines in inetd.conf and services look fine. If anyone has seen this before could you please let me know? I'll post the results to this newsgroup if there are interested parties. thanks a lot, mikole -- Mike Sprague | UNIX System Administrator North Shore Access / Eco Software, Inc | mfs@shore.net require 'std_disclaimer.pl' | GFY "Can you still have fun?" - E. Anastasio From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 10:45:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08503; Tue, 21 Jun 94 10:45:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16872; Tue, 21 Jun 94 10:37:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16866; Tue, 21 Jun 94 10:37:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qG9UM-00000MC; Tue, 21 Jun 94 10:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jchen@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (John Chen) Subject: Re: attached file Message-Id: References: <2trj3pINN8mj@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 17:11:38 GMT Hi, I think you are doing the correct steps in 1 and 2. The problem might be that the person you sent the file to was not using pine. Or even if they are, attach file ususally can't be read directly so it ask the person to save the attachment in a file. One possible way around it, if you are only attaching text file, you could read that file into your message by using ^R option. I'm not sure if I address you question corretly, but good luck. John Michael Sacks (mhsacks@mail.med.cornell.edu) wrote: : I am having difficulty sending files. Could someone : tell me how to: : 1. Import a small ascii file into the message section of the : letter. I am using ProComm for DOS as my communication program. : 2. How to write the file into attached file after I kermit it : to the server. : 3. Sometimes when I succeed in getting 2. correct and the file : transmits my receiver tells me he has received "garbage". : Thanks : Michael From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 11:02:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09343; Tue, 21 Jun 94 11:02:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21070; Tue, 21 Jun 94 10:57:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21064; Tue, 21 Jun 94 10:57:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qG9nQ-00000BC; Tue, 21 Jun 94 10:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jchen@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (John Chen) Subject: Re: .sig allways at top Message-Id: References: <2u58hj$j2e@tahoma.cwu.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 17:18:12 GMT I think you can change that in your .pinerc file, just change the signature-at bottom=yes. I think there is another way of doing it. I remember there was a post with this same question, so you can try looking for it. John Ian Jirka (jirka@tahoma.cwu.edu) wrote: : Howdy. : Whenever I reply to a message, pine puts my .sig at the top of the : message. I would prefer to have it put at the bottom. Is this : possible? : ------------------------------------------------------------------------- : -Ian Jirka | No Fancy Artwork Here! : -jirka@tahoma.cwu.edu | Systems Analyst/Programmer I : -jirka@cluster.cwu.edu | Central Washington University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 11:22:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10316; Tue, 21 Jun 94 11:22:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17788; Tue, 21 Jun 94 11:16:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from gmlink.gmeds.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17782; Tue, 21 Jun 94 11:15:55 -0700 Received: from earth.troy.eng.eds.com by gmlink.gmeds.com with SMTP id AA45014 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 1.1 for ); Tue, 21 Jun 1994 14:14:54 -0400 Message-Id: <199406211814.AA45014@gmlink.gmeds.com> Received: from majorca (majorca.troy.eng.eds.com) by earth.troy.eng.eds.com (4.1/AE-1.0) id AA05534; Tue, 21 Jun 94 14:14:52 EDT Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 14:16:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Jason Cross Subject: Pine/munpack problem description (fwd) To: pine Cc: diver@eng.eds.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII we're using mpack and munpack and noticed the following differences between mpack and pine: A Pine mail message with a binary attachment looks like this (encoded 60 characters wide): --587206820-278448520-772220586:#1919 Content-Type: APPLICATION/octet-stream; name=csh Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: shell f0VMRgECAQAAAAAAAAAAAAACAAIAAAABAAF2XAAAADQAAl+0AAAAAAA0ACAA BQAoABQAEgAAAAYAAAA0AAEANAAAAAAAAACgAAAAoAAAAAUAAAAAAAAAAwAA But, mpack creates encoded files with strings of 72 characters long like this: Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="csh" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="csh" Content-MD5: cnjOTuKi9tc/O+6QXUomzQ== f0VMRgECAQAAAAAAAAAAAAACAAIAAAABAAF2XAAAADQAAl+0AAAAAAA0ACAABQAoABQAEgAA AAYAAAA0AAEANAAAAAAAAACgAAAAoAAAAAUAAAAAAAAAAwAAANQAAAAAAAAAAAAAABEAAAAA Needless to say, when a Pine mail message is decoded with munpack, I get garbage. Why the differences? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 11:30:21 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10625; Tue, 21 Jun 94 11:30:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17909; Tue, 21 Jun 94 11:22:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17899; Tue, 21 Jun 94 11:22:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qGAAt-00000BC; Tue, 21 Jun 94 11:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schake@tesuque.cs.sandia.gov (Stefan Chakerian) Subject: Re: PGP with pine !? Date: 21 Jun 1994 11:28:51 -0600 Message-Id: <2u780j$jb5@tesuque.cs.sandia.gov> References: Matt T. Simmons wrote: >> I am surprised. Few weeks ago I asked a question about any attempts >>to put PGP public-key criptosystem into pine. And I got no respond at >>all. Those that mean: Nobody is interested in having this available >>on hand in automatic way in pine ? Is it true ?! > The reason why nobody gave an answer is because it's been beaten to > death on this mailing list/newsgroup. The general consensus was (from > the Pine Development Team) that including PGP was sort of a gray area > legally, and that they were waiting for it to clear up before > including anything. I gave a workaround a while back. The original post was to alt.security.pgp so you may have missed it. This is a kluge of sorts to allow you to pgp encrypt messages, although it does not decrypt messages you receive. stef ====== Path: tesuque.cs.sandia.gov!user From: schake@tesuque.cs.sandia.gov (Stefan Chakerian) Newsgroups: alt.security.pgp Subject: Re: interfacing pgp to pine? Date: 28 May 1994 21:20:31 -0600 Message-ID: <2s91lv$f8s@tesuque.cs.sandia.gov> References: <2s2llc$pho@panix2.panix.com> Summary: here's how to use pgp with pine >Can anybody give me some ideas on using pgp with the 'pine' >mailreader? I don't see anything in the documentation or >the FAQ on pine interfaces. I'm posting since this may be of general interest. If desired, this may be added to the FAQ with attribution. here's what I do: In my .pinerc, I set the editor to a shell script called mkpgp ----- changes to .pinerc ----- # feature-list= comma-separated list of features from the following set: # Note: the value "old-growth" is shorthand for the indicated features... # enable-alternate-editor-cmd (included in old-growth set) feature-list=old-growth # editor specifies the program invoked by ^_ in the Composer. # This is normally an alternative to Pine's internal composer (Pico) editor=mkpgp ----- The old-growth enables the alternate editor. Otherwise you'd need feature-list=enable-alternate-editor-cmd Okay, now that you changed your .pinerc, you need the script mkpgp. ----- mkpgp ----- #!/bin/sh # schake@cs.sandia.gov, May 28 1994 clear echo '' echo 'Enter username to encrypt, or return to sign only' read action case $action in ?*) pgp -sew "$1" "$action";; *) pgp -satw +clearsig=on "$1";; esac mv "$1.asc" "$1" ----- put the file mkpgp in your path, and make it executable (with % chmod 755 mkpgp or something like that. Now, when you type ^_, pine will run mkpgp. If you just type return, it will only sign your message. If you want to armor the message, type the search phrase for your public ring and press return. mkpgp will then run pgp on your message with the appropriate flags. IT WILL NOT CHANGE ATTACHMENTS. You should armor or sign those files individually before attaching them. If you don't want to use pico and already use a different editor for pine, you'll need to deal with pgp in that editor instead. stef ========= -- Stefan Chakerian Good, fast, cheap. Pick two. schake@tesuque.cs.sandia.gov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 12:03:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12281; Tue, 21 Jun 94 12:03:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22666; Tue, 21 Jun 94 11:57:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22660; Tue, 21 Jun 94 11:57:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qGAjB-00000BC; Tue, 21 Jun 94 11:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mwroe@uoguelph.ca (Marianne G Wroe) Subject: Help! >: Date: 21 Jun 1994 06:57:56 GMT Message-Id: <2u631k$jgk@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> Hey...my mailbox is readonly (sorry if you've seen this elsewhere, i am getting a bit desparate as I watch letters pile up >:) anyway, whenever i log on it says something to the effect of it gave up after ten tries to open the mail box or get it. It is stuck in a process which no matter what i try and type (eg kill 5680, kill -9 5680, kill -KILL 5680) etc. etc. nothing happens. when i list the processes there is a ? where normally i think the terminal should be (ie tty1 or whatever it is) also the number which is (i think) where the process started normally it would be say 5630 or something, it is 1 !! Can people please mail me at cocoa@musenet.bbn.com (this mailbox is ok at the moment) with some suggestion as to what i might do?? Thanks! -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Listen as the wind blows from across the ~ Marianne Wroe great divide - Voices trapped in yearning ~ University of Guelph memories trapped in time - the night is my ~ Guelph, Ontario, Canada companion, and solitude my guide - would ~ mwroe@uoguelph.ca I spend forever here and not be satisfied ~ cocoa@musenet.bbn.com -S. McLachlan ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 12:13:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12702; Tue, 21 Jun 94 12:13:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18927; Tue, 21 Jun 94 12:06:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18921; Tue, 21 Jun 94 12:06:37 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14951; Tue, 21 Jun 94 12:06:36 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11545; Tue, 21 Jun 94 11:49:50 -0700 Received: from NOC4.DCCS.UPENN.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18569; Tue, 21 Jun 94 11:49:49 -0700 Received: from CLARKE.DCCS.UPENN.EDU by noc4.dccs.upenn.edu id AA06806; Tue, 21 Jun 94 14:49:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: by clarke.dccs.upenn.edu id AA26075; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 14:49:41 -0400 From: alok@dccs.upenn.edu Posted-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 14:49:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9406211849.AA26075@clarke.dccs.upenn.edu> Subject: Pico editor To: pine-info-approval@cac.washington.edu Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 14:49:40 -0400 (EDT) Cc: alok@dccs.upenn.edu (Alok - Help Desk Support Personnel), clarke@dccs.upenn.edu (Dawn Clarke) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23-upenn2.8] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 388 Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 12:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Hello, I work at DCCS, University of Pennsylvania. I have a question regarding Pico. When using pico to edit lines greater than 80 characters, it forces in a formfeed. Is there any way to turn it off ? That would allow the user to have very long lines. Particularly when the user wants to edit the aliases file to make a long list of aliases. -Alok DCCS, University of Pennsylvania From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 12:45:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13902; Tue, 21 Jun 94 12:45:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23747; Tue, 21 Jun 94 12:39:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sussdirt.rdg.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23741; Tue, 21 Jun 94 12:39:37 -0700 Received: from reading.ac.uk by mail1.reading.ac.uk with SMTP - Local (PP) id <21344-0@mail1.reading.ac.uk>; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 20:39:16 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 20:39:17 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Roch Reply-To: Mike Roch Subject: Status message when invoking alt. editor To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Length: 735 Pine is well blessed with status messages "Sending mail...", "New mail from..." etc. One place they seem to be missing is when calling up an alternative editor. We run some slowish systems here, it can take 20 secs for (say) emacs to kick in after pressing Ctrl _ . In the mean time users think the command's been ignored and do the sorts of things that frustrated users do [I don't need to spell these out do I?]. A simple "Invoking alternative editor ..." message would be reassuring. Mike ============================================================================== Mike Roch, Computer Services Centre, Tel: 0734 318430 The University, Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF Fax: 0734 753094 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 13:13:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15362; Tue, 21 Jun 94 13:13:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20355; Tue, 21 Jun 94 13:07:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from hptele24.telerate.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20349; Tue, 21 Jun 94 13:07:17 -0700 Message-Id: <9406212007.AA20349@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Received: by hptele24.telerate.com (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04453; Tue, 21 Jun 94 16:07:35 -0400 From: David Weintraub Subject: Pico Manual To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 16:07:34 -0500 (EDT) Organization: Dow Jones/Telerate Phone Number: 201-938-5808 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 269 Is there any sort of manual or guide book for Pico? We have the man pages, but I was hoping for something a little more detailed. -- David Weintraub | Opinions expressed are mine and not Telerate's davidw@cnj.digex.net | Not that anyone listens to me anyway From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 14:33:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18124; Tue, 21 Jun 94 14:33:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26483; Tue, 21 Jun 94 14:27:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26477; Tue, 21 Jun 94 14:27:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qGD5M-00000IC; Tue, 21 Jun 94 14:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: elemings@utm.edu (Eric Lemings) Subject: Pine for SCO UNIX? Message-Id: <1994Jun21.195847.13207@martha.utcc.utk.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 19:58:47 GMT Will Pine work on a SCO UNIX system? If so, where can I get it? Thanks, Eric Lemings From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 14:33:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18133; Tue, 21 Jun 94 14:33:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22078; Tue, 21 Jun 94 14:27:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22070; Tue, 21 Jun 94 14:27:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qGD4I-00000HC; Tue, 21 Jun 94 14:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sti@cs.hut.fi (Sami-Jaakko Tikka) Subject: Incompatibility between Eudora and Pine Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 12:02:46 +0300 Message-Id: Has anyone else noticed that there seems to be an incompatibility between Eudora and Pine. I am using Eudora 2.0.2 on PB100 (7.1) and Pine 3.89 on Linux (1.1.20). The problem is this. I write a message in Pine. I use X and am operating in xterm where I can use ISO-LATIN-1 charset. I use scandinavian characters "ŒšŠ" (I wrote those in Newswatcher, so these are with the Mac charset) in my message. When the mail message is received in my mailspool and I look at it with cat it looks like this: >From sti@rst.fi Tue Jun 21 11:35:19 1994 Received: from rst1.rst.fi by hutcs.cs.hut.fi with SMTP id AA13981 (5.65c8/HUTCS-S 1.4); Tue, 21 Jun 1994 11:35:17 +0300 Received: from rst2.rst.fi (root@rst2 [193.210.8.2]) by rst1.rst.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA00993; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 11:36:59 +0300 Received: (sti@localhost) by rst2.rst.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) id LAA09291; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 11:37:42 +0300 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 11:37:42 +0100 From: Sami-Jaakko Tikka Subject: Pine-testi To: sti@cs.hut.fi, jpk@cs.hut.fi, cts@cs.hut.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE T=E4m=E4 on testiviesti, joka on kirjoitettu Pine:lla rst2:ssa. ----- However when I look at it in Eudora, it looks like this: Received: from rst1.rst.fi by hutcs.cs.hut.fi with SMTP id AA13981 (5.65c8/HUTCS-S 1.4); Tue, 21 Jun 1994 11:35:17 +0300 Received: from rst2.rst.fi (root@rst2 [193.210.8.2]) by rst1.rst.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA00993; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 11:36:59 +0300 Received: (sti@localhost) by rst2.rst.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) id LAA09291; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 11:37:42 +0300 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 11:37:42 +0100 From: Sami-Jaakko Tikka Subject: Pine-testi To: sti@cs.hut.fi, jpk@cs.hut.fi, cts@cs.hut.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Tämä on testiviesti, joka on kirjoitettu Pine:lla rst2:ssa. ---- So you see? Eudora has decodec the quoted-printable encoding, but it is showing the scandinavian characters in a wrong charset. If I conseqently choose from the Eudora charset menu "ISO Latin1->Mac", I get the characters as they should be. Why is this? I do I have to worry about the charset conversions? And why do I have to choose "ISO Latin1->Mac", even if I have chosen it to be the default conversion? I'm not really looking anyone to blame, but rather looking for an answer and help. I always thought that MIME was the way to go in the future of email. Now I have two email programs that say they are MIME-compatible and they don't speak to each other correctly. Thank you! -- My home page HUT/IIA; I don't speak for my employer From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 14:38:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18450; Tue, 21 Jun 94 14:38:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22242; Tue, 21 Jun 94 14:32:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22236; Tue, 21 Jun 94 14:32:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qGD7P-00000PC; Tue, 21 Jun 94 14:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stevezim@crl.com (Steve Zimmerman) Subject: Deleting an Empty Folder Date: 21 Jun 1994 13:05:37 -0700 Message-Id: <2u7h6h$jdc@crl.crl.com> Once you empty a folder of its contents, how do you delete that folder? Steve Zimmerman Scottsdale, AZ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 15:06:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20062; Tue, 21 Jun 94 15:06:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27390; Tue, 21 Jun 94 14:57:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27384; Tue, 21 Jun 94 14:57:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qGDZA-00000FC; Tue, 21 Jun 94 14:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bblohm@boi.hp.com (Bill Blohm) Subject: What is PINE? Date: 21 Jun 1994 17:32:30 GMT Message-Id: <2u787e$jrq@hpbs3591.boi.hp.com> This newsgroup just popped up on my newsserver today. Excellent timing. I just got a message from someone and it appears that it is created with PINE. The result is that I can read the first paragraph, but everything else is a large block of ASCII. What is PINE? I gather it is related to e-mail, but is it an automatic uuencoder or what? What I really need to know is if there is any way I can decode the rest of the message. Otherwise, I will have to try to get the author to send me a plain text file. That's all it is supposed to be, anyway. E-mail, non-PINE, to bblohm@hpbs1686.boi.hp.com, or post here, please. Bill B. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 15:33:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21010; Tue, 21 Jun 94 15:33:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23527; Tue, 21 Jun 94 15:27:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23513; Tue, 21 Jun 94 15:27:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qGE3S-00000BC; Tue, 21 Jun 94 15:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jirka@tahoma.cwu.edu (Ian Jirka) Subject: Re: .sig allways at top Date: 21 Jun 1994 12:21:01 -0700 Message-Id: <2u7eit$2nq@tahoma.cwu.edu> References: <2u58hj$j2e@tahoma.cwu.edu> To all those who helped me with my .sig problem, thank you! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -Ian Jirka | No Fancy Artwork Here! -jirka@tahoma.cwu.edu | Systems Analyst/Programmer I -jirka@cluster.cwu.edu | Central Washington University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 15:48:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21673; Tue, 21 Jun 94 15:48:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23888; Tue, 21 Jun 94 15:44:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from vorlon.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23882; Tue, 21 Jun 94 15:44:05 -0700 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 17:51:53 +0100 From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Re: PGP with pine !? To: Wojtek Bogusz Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 21 Jun 1994, Wojtek Bogusz wrote: > Those that mean: Nobody is interested in having this available > on hand in automatic way in pine ? Is it true ?! The problem is that with all hte political and legal problems with PGP, I can imagine the Lords of Pine{tm} simply don't want to deal with it. ITAR is something evil to cross. > I assume everybody knows what is PGP and public-key way of cripting > or signing a mail. I have PGP 2.6ui version (UI stands for Unofficial > International release). And as far as I know it can be used with out > restrictions (am I right ? :-), so ... You are wrong. ui cannot be used within the U.S. without violating RSA's patents, and if you export it, you can go to jail. ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@vorlon.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or Blue Earth County -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 16:23:16 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23033; Tue, 21 Jun 94 16:23:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29503; Tue, 21 Jun 94 16:17:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29497; Tue, 21 Jun 94 16:17:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qGEpR-00000BC; Tue, 21 Jun 94 16:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: PINE and SLIP/Winsock Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2u7ak1$8tl@bigboote.WPI.EDU> A Windows/winsock version of Pine will be available this summer, perhaps with Pine 3.90... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 21 Jun 1994, Geoffrey S. Zub wrote: > I was wondering if there was any way to get Pine to work with SLIP > through Winsock in windows, I don't need the windows interface, I can run > it in a DOS box, but I wanted to know if there was a version that would > work with the Windows Sockets interface. > > Geoff > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Geoffrey S Zub - GZub@WPI.WPI.Edu - Zeta Psi Fraternity - Worcester Polytech > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 16:39:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23800; Tue, 21 Jun 94 16:39:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25057; Tue, 21 Jun 94 16:32:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25051; Tue, 21 Jun 94 16:32:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qGF04-00000DC; Tue, 21 Jun 94 16:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine/munpack problem description (fwd) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199406211814.AA45014@gmlink.gmeds.com> The width doesn't matter, as long as it is less than 76 characters. Either pine or mpack should be able to decode an attachment created by the other, regardless of the difference in line length.... If you cannot find some other external cause, send a sample to pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu and we will take a look at it. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 21 Jun 1994, Jason Cross wrote: > > we're using mpack and munpack and noticed the following > differences between mpack and pine: > > A Pine mail message with a binary attachment looks like > this (encoded 60 characters wide): > > > --587206820-278448520-772220586:#1919 > Content-Type: APPLICATION/octet-stream; name=csh > Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 > Content-ID: > Content-Description: shell > > f0VMRgECAQAAAAAAAAAAAAACAAIAAAABAAF2XAAAADQAAl+0AAAAAAA0ACAA > BQAoABQAEgAAAAYAAAA0AAEANAAAAAAAAACgAAAAoAAAAAUAAAAAAAAAAwAA > > > > But, mpack creates encoded files with strings of 72 characters long > like this: > > > Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="csh" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > Content-Disposition: inline; filename="csh" > Content-MD5: cnjOTuKi9tc/O+6QXUomzQ== > > f0VMRgECAQAAAAAAAAAAAAACAAIAAAABAAF2XAAAADQAAl+0AAAAAAA0ACAABQAoABQAEgAA > AAYAAAA0AAEANAAAAAAAAACgAAAAoAAAAAUAAAAAAAAAAwAAANQAAAAAAAAAAAAAABEAAAAA > > > Needless to say, when a Pine mail message is decoded with munpack, I get > garbage. Why the differences? > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 17:04:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24804; Tue, 21 Jun 94 17:04:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00662; Tue, 21 Jun 94 16:58:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00654; Tue, 21 Jun 94 16:57:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qGFPM-00000BC; Tue, 21 Jun 94 16:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pico editor Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9406211849.AA26075@clarke.dccs.upenn.edu> >From the pico man page: -w Disable word wrap (thus allow editing of long lines). |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 21 Jun 1994 alok@dccs.upenn.edu wrote: > Hello, > > I work at DCCS, University of Pennsylvania. > > I have a question regarding Pico. When using pico to edit lines greater than 80 > characters, it forces in a formfeed. Is there any way to turn it off ? > > That would allow the user to have very long lines. Particularly when the user > wants to edit the aliases file to make a long list of aliases. > > -Alok > DCCS, > University of Pennsylvania > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 17:34:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25735; Tue, 21 Jun 94 17:34:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26328; Tue, 21 Jun 94 17:28:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26322; Tue, 21 Jun 94 17:28:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qGFrw-00000BC; Tue, 21 Jun 94 17:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Gardiner Myers Subject: Re: Pine/munpack problem description (fwd) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 18:04:15 -0400 Message-Id: References: <199406211814.AA45014@gmlink.gmeds.com> In-Reply-To: <199406211814.AA45014@gmlink.gmeds.com> jcross01@eng.eds.com (Jason Cross) writes: > Needless to say, when a Pine mail message is decoded with munpack, I get > garbage. Why the differences? Actually, not "needless to say". The line length does not matter, as long as lines are no more than 76 characters each. Munpack 1.4 should be able to decode messages generated by Pine just fine. -- _.John G. Myers Internet: jgm+@CMU.EDU LoseNet: ...!seismo!ihnp4!wiscvm.wisc.edu!give!up From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 17:57:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26432; Tue, 21 Jun 94 17:57:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01825; Tue, 21 Jun 94 17:48:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01819; Tue, 21 Jun 94 17:48:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qGGBM-00000BC; Tue, 21 Jun 94 17:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: labmas@u.washington.edu (Lab Master) Subject: Re: Pico editor Date: 21 Jun 1994 20:43:07 GMT Message-Id: <2u7jcr$5ol@news.u.washington.edu> References: <9406211849.AA26075@clarke.dccs.upenn.edu> wrote: >I have a question regarding Pico. When using pico to edit lines greater than 80 >characters, it forces in a formfeed. Is there any way to turn it off ? Yes there is: pico -w The '-w' option turns off the automatic line wrap. In fact, I have an alias set up: alias pico 'pico -w'... -Lab Master From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 18:24:27 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27188; Tue, 21 Jun 94 18:24:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27317; Tue, 21 Jun 94 18:18:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27311; Tue, 21 Jun 94 18:18:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qGGgT-00000BC; Tue, 21 Jun 94 18:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine for SCO UNIX? Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 14:36:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994Jun21.195847.13207@martha.utcc.utk.edu> Pine 3.90 will include an SCO port. It should be available in a few weeks. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 21 Jun 1994, Eric Lemings wrote: > Will Pine work on a SCO UNIX system? If so, where can I get it? > > Thanks, > Eric Lemings > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 18:30:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27296; Tue, 21 Jun 94 18:30:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02594; Tue, 21 Jun 94 18:23:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02588; Tue, 21 Jun 94 18:23:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qGGj8-00000DC; Tue, 21 Jun 94 18:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: can pine use mh-style folders? Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 08:47:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2u6ubs$lgv$1@heifetz.msen.com> Yes, the version of the MH driver in the current imap-3.3 toolkit includes full read-write support in imapd. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 21 Jun 1994, Edward Vielmetti wrote: > David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: > > : To get full MH support you need to either rebuild Pine 3.89 with the latest > : IMAP toolkit, or wait for Pine 3.90, which should be available in a few > : weeks. > > I trust that this then adds read/write support for MH folders in imapd ? > The version we have running here lets you read MH folders, but not > delete messages from them, I just want to be sure that we land on the > right version... > > --Ed > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 20:29:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00392; Tue, 21 Jun 94 20:29:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29373; Tue, 21 Jun 94 20:23:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29367; Tue, 21 Jun 94 20:23:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qGIbs-00000DC; Tue, 21 Jun 94 20:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: joshua@engr.mun.ca (joshua swamidas) Subject: Tagging mail Date: 21 Jun 1994 17:32:51 GMT Message-Id: <2u7883$dnn@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Thanks in advance, Joshua Swamidas joshua@tera.engr.mun.ca Memorial University of Newfoundland From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 21 21:27:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01768; Tue, 21 Jun 94 21:27:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05529; Tue, 21 Jun 94 21:18:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05523; Tue, 21 Jun 94 21:18:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qGJVH-00000FC; Tue, 21 Jun 94 21:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gzub@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Geoffrey S. Zub) Subject: PINE and SLIP/Winsock Date: 21 Jun 1994 18:13:21 GMT Message-Id: <2u7ak1$8tl@bigboote.WPI.EDU> I was wondering if there was any way to get Pine to work with SLIP through Winsock in windows, I don't need the windows interface, I can run it in a DOS box, but I wanted to know if there was a version that would work with the Windows Sockets interface. Geoff -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Geoffrey S Zub - GZub@WPI.WPI.Edu - Zeta Psi Fraternity - Worcester Polytech ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 22 06:06:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17828; Wed, 22 Jun 94 06:06:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14473; Wed, 22 Jun 94 05:49:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from comserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14467; Wed, 22 Jun 94 05:49:29 -0700 Received: from bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de by comserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de with SMTP (PP); Wed, 22 Jun 1994 14:40:45 +0200 Received: by bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (4.1/ZDV-Uni-Tuebingen-1.0) id AA03825; Wed, 22 Jun 94 14:40:17 +0200 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 14:40:13 +0200 (MET DST) From: "M. Spohn" Subject: Unparsable date To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello all, when invoking pine on HP-UX hpap1 A.09.01 A 9000/710 or HP-UX hptest A.09.01 A 9000/715 I get the error message "Unparsable date" if I try to access INBOX. However, when the message is saved into a folder I can invoke that folder without the error message. So I diff'ed /usr/mail/zrnsm01 and ~/mail/received and got the following: < From zrnsm01@hpap1.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de Wed Jun 22 14:10 MES 1994 --- > From zrnsm01@hpap1.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de Wed Jun 22 14:29:25 1994 The string "MES" is responsible for the error message. If I substitute "MES" with "MET" (as I found on HP-UX hpnic A.09.04 E 9000/816) I have no problems. Question: Is there a need to reconfigure the date format or can pine learn that "MES"? Thanks in advance ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Martin Spohn | Universitaet Tuebingen Z Tel. 07071 29 6970 Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung D E-mail: spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de Abteilung Netze V Fax: 07071 29 5912 Brunnenstr. 27, 72074 Tuebingen | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 23 00:27:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25892; Thu, 23 Jun 94 00:27:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02048; Thu, 23 Jun 94 00:14:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from halcyon.halcyon.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02042; Thu, 23 Jun 94 00:14:38 -0700 Received: by halcyon.com id AA04739 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 23 Jun 1994 00:14:37 -0700 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 00:14:37 -0700 From: Ralph Sims Message-Id: <199406230714.AA04739@halcyon.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Inserting Control Characters in Pico Some of my users have expressed an interest in inserting control characters in text within pico. A search of the man page and help screens did not yield anything. Other than reverting to another editor, are there any suggestions? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 23 09:20:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09067; Thu, 23 Jun 94 09:20:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10782; Thu, 23 Jun 94 09:09:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from geolab5.larc.nasa.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10774; Thu, 23 Jun 94 09:09:09 -0700 Received: from localhost by geolab5.larc.nasa.gov (8.6.4/lanleaf2.4) id MAA18419; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 12:09:01 -0400 Message-Id: <199406231609.MAA18419@geolab5.larc.nasa.gov> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 12:09:01 -0400 From: Eric Everton To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine Please email me info on Pine EVERTON, ERIC L E.L.EVERTON@LaRC.NASA.GOV Mail Stop 125 Computer Applications Branch 24 West Taylor Street Information Systems Division NASA Langley Research Center Building 1268A, Room 2118A Hampton, VA 23681-0001 Phone +1 804 864-5778 Fax +1 804 864-8910 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 23 10:09:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11147; Thu, 23 Jun 94 10:09:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20286; Thu, 23 Jun 94 09:57:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [140.175.9.37] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20280; Thu, 23 Jun 94 09:57:51 -0700 Received: from tiberius.safb.af.mil by cato.safb.af.mil.safb.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02877; Thu, 23 Jun 94 11:54:59 CDT Received: by tiberius.safb.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09221; Thu, 23 Jun 94 11:54:59 CDT Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 11:48:40 -0500 (CDT) From: John Daum Reply-To: John Daum Subject: TCP error... To: Pine Help List Cc: Trumpet Users Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I am cross-posting this to the pine list because of the apparent relationship to the pine viewer. Pine version is: 3.87 Trumpet Winsock version is: 1.0 Rev B beta #6 The Trumpet Winsock console reports: CRITICAL ERROR: TCP poll reentrancy detected - please report exact circumstance socket 1 killed socket 2 killed Task WNQVTWSK(3647) did not call WSACleanup The exact circumstances were (and it is repeatable - but only in a local LAN environment): Environment: Either a PC with DOS 5, and what follows or a NEC ultralite Versa with DOS 6.2 and what follows: 1. Trumpet Winsock Version 1.0 Rev B beta #6 (also happened on earlier versions) 2. Windows 3.1 3. WinQVT Winsock, Telnet, version 3.97 4. Sun OS on the local LAN and pine version XXX Telnet to a Sun OS host, run pine (email), view a message, press and hold up or down arrow. Session crashes with: "Runtime error 202 @ 0002:39A9" on the PC "Runtime error 202 @ 0002:3DA9" on the NEC No other information available on the pop up Error window... When I go into the text editor "pico" either directly or when I do a "compose" in pine, I cannot crash the session. I can only repeat this when I am viewing a message with the pine application. When I try the pine viewer on a distant machine, I cannot cause the error. I did it again with the TCP Trace on and the error pop up changed from 39A9 to 3C68. The trace follows: 5525.1 1041->23 seq 00000075 ack 00002161 ACK wind 3134 5525.1 1041->23 seq 00000075 ack 00002161 PSH ACK wind 3134 data 3 1B 5B 42 CRITICAL ERROR: TCP poll reentrancy detected - please report exact circumstance state = closed 5553.5 1041->23 seq 00000078 RST wind 0 socket 1 killed 5553.5 23->1041 seq 1D86B961 ack A0E80078 PSH ACK wind 4096 data 90 1B 5B 37 6D 1B 5B 31 3B 37 31 48 20 34 37 1B 5B 32 37 6D 1B 5B 33 3B 32 31 72 1B 5B 32 31 3B 31 48 1B 44 73 74 61 6E 64 61 72 64 73 20 69 6E 20 74 68 65 20 49 45 54 46 20 5B 52 46 43 31 36 30 32 2C 20 52 46 43 31 36 30 33 5D 2E 1B 5B 31 3B 32 34 72 1B 5B 32 32 3B 31 48 Unknown TCP - sending reset 5553.5 1041->23 seq A0E80078 RST wind 0 5553.5 23->1041 seq 1D86B961 ack A0E80078 PSH ACK wind 4096 data 90 1B 5B 37 6D 1B 5B 31 3B 37 31 48 20 34 37 1B 5B 32 37 6D 1B 5B 33 3B 32 31 72 1B 5B 32 31 3B 31 48 1B 44 73 74 61 6E 64 61 72 64 73 20 69 6E 20 74 68 65 20 49 45 54 46 20 5B 52 46 43 31 36 30 32 2C 20 52 46 43 31 36 30 33 5D 2E 1B 5B 31 3B 32 34 72 1B 5B 32 32 3B 31 48 Unknown TCP - sending reset 5553.6 1041->23 seq A0E80078 RST wind 0 5553.6 23->1041 seq 1D86B961 ack A0E80078 PSH ACK wind 4096 data 90 1B 5B 37 6D 1B 5B 31 3B 37 31 48 20 34 37 1B 5B 32 37 6D 1B 5B 33 3B 32 31 72 1B 5B 32 31 3B 31 48 1B 44 73 74 61 6E 64 61 72 64 73 20 69 6E 20 74 68 65 20 49 45 54 46 20 5B 52 46 43 31 36 30 32 2C 20 52 46 43 31 36 30 33 5D 2E 1B 5B 31 3B 32 34 72 1B 5B 32 32 3B 31 48 Unknown TCP - sending reset 5553.6 1041->23 seq A0E80078 RST wind 0 5553.6 23->1041 seq 1D86B961 ack A0E80078 PSH ACK wind 4096 data 90 1B 5B 37 6D 1B 5B 31 3B 37 31 48 20 34 37 1B 5B 32 37 6D 1B 5B 33 3B 32 31 72 1B 5B 32 31 3B 31 48 1B 44 73 74 61 6E 64 61 72 64 73 20 69 6E 20 74 68 65 20 49 45 54 46 20 5B 52 46 43 31 36 30 32 2C 20 52 46 43 31 36 30 33 5D 2E 1B 5B 31 3B 32 34 72 1B 5B 32 32 3B 31 48 Unknown TCP - sending reset 5553.6 1041->23 seq A0E80078 RST wind 0 state = closed socket 2 killed Task WNQVTWSK(3EEF) did not call WSACleanup John Daum jed@mitre.org or daumj@tiberius.safb.af.mil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 04:12:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11442; Fri, 24 Jun 94 04:12:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01758; Fri, 24 Jun 94 04:03:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01752; Fri, 24 Jun 94 04:03:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qH8ev-00000aC; Fri, 24 Jun 94 03:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: syoung@nysernet.org (Shimshon Young) Subject: Shareware Postscript Converter Message-Id: <1994Jun23.203108.26889@nysernet.org> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 20:31:08 GMT I am interested in finding a shareware program which will translate a an ASCII text file to Postscript format on a unix platform. This would enable me to send formatted files to the email-to-fax network by attaching the formatted files via MIME. Where can I find such a program? Thanks, Shimshon Young syoung@israel.nysernet.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 04:45:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12008; Fri, 24 Jun 94 04:45:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13057; Fri, 24 Jun 94 04:38:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13051; Fri, 24 Jun 94 04:38:37 -0700 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.6.9/8.6.9) id HAA01683; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 07:35:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 07:35:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael C. Newell" Subject: Re: Shareware Postscript Converter To: Shimshon Young Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <1994Jun23.203108.26889@nysernet.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There are MANY of them out there; I use "text2ps" which is available at a large number of sites (locatable via Archie.) Mike On Thu, 23 Jun 1994, Shimshon Young wrote: > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 20:31:08 GMT > From: Shimshon Young > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Shareware Postscript Converter > > > I am interested in finding a shareware program which will translate a > an ASCII text file to Postscript format on a unix platform. This would > enable me to send formatted files to the email-to-fax network by > attaching the formatted files via MIME. Where can I find such a program? > > Thanks, > > Shimshon Young > syoung@israel.nysernet.org > > +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | reflect those of the NSI program, | |+1-202-434-8954 | NASA, my employer, or anyone else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 04:45:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12016; Fri, 24 Jun 94 04:45:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13075; Fri, 24 Jun 94 04:39:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13069; Fri, 24 Jun 94 04:39:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qH97B-00000VC; Fri, 24 Jun 94 04:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maki@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Justin Maki) Subject: >'s and |'s with Pine Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 18:42:19 GMT Often I find it useful to mail files to people using the unix redirection tools (ie, < and |). Will 3.89 support this? Often when I'm reading news I like to pipe interesting articles to my friends through mail. Just using regular old unix mail works, but then I can't use my .addressbook entries. I caught the last part of a thread where this was being discussed, so if this has been answered before, I'd be interested in hearing what the thinking was on this. Does anyone else out there use the piping concept, or is it fading away as mailers become more sophisticated. Is there another way to accomplish the same thing? thanks. Justin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 05:00:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12370; Fri, 24 Jun 94 05:00:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02714; Fri, 24 Jun 94 04:54:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02708; Fri, 24 Jun 94 04:54:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qH9VI-00000QC; Fri, 24 Jun 94 04:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dstabosz@chopin.udel.edu (David Stabosz) Subject: Sort order in .pinerc, and rich headers Date: 23 Jun 1994 16:19:49 -0400 Message-Id: <2ucqp5$q86@chopin.udel.edu> Two problems I am having with pine: Is there an option in my .pinerc where I can set rich headers to be the default. So when I reply to or compose a message, rich headers will be on, and pressing ^R will remove them. Is it possible to set the default sorting to be date and reversed? If I set sort-key to date, then from the folder index do $,R I have the messages sorted the way I would like them (most recent at the top). But the best I can do now is either set sort-key=date, then do $,R from the index, or set sort-key=reverse, then do $,D from the index. Am I missing something, I tried sort-key = reverse,date but this doesn't work. Thanks, David E. Stabosz From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 05:38:49 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13242; Fri, 24 Jun 94 05:38:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13882; Fri, 24 Jun 94 05:32:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13876; Fri, 24 Jun 94 05:32:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHA82-00000OC; Fri, 24 Jun 94 05:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jtklehto@stekt.oulu.fi (Janne Kukonlehto) Subject: Re: PGP with pine !? Date: 22 Jun 1994 08:31:58 GMT Message-Id: <2u8stu$j1b@ousrvr.oulu.fi> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Robert A. Hayden (hayden@vorlon.mankato.msus.edu) wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jun 1994, Wojtek Bogusz wrote: > > Those that mean: Nobody is interested in having this available > > on hand in automatic way in pine ? Is it true ?! > > The problem is that with all hte political and legal problems with PGP, I > can imagine the Lords of Pine{tm} simply don't want to deal with it. > ITAR is something evil to cross. Support for PGP can be easily added with an apporiate alternate editor script as mentioned at earlier posts. I see no reason to ask "Lords of Pine{tm}" to deal with the matter. However, if they want to add support for PGP there will be no problems as long as PGP itself or other crypting algorithms are not included. And I see no reason to include them. > > I assume everybody knows what is PGP and public-key way of cripting > > or signing a mail. I have PGP 2.6ui version (UI stands for Unofficial > > International release). And as far as I know it can be used with out > > restrictions (am I right ? :-), so ... > > You are wrong. ui cannot be used within the U.S. without violating RSA's > patents, and if you export it, you can go to jail. Original poster was Polish, so U.S. patents are no good there. Here at Finland algorithmic patents aren't even allowed. Many people think they shouldn't be allowed anywhere else, too (because they stop innovation and even the basic algoritms can be easily patented, I have heard that even the XOR operator has been patented, don't know if the patent still holds). Software can easily be protected by copyright, no patents are necessary. Those poor U.S. citizens can use MIT version instead of UI. To export UI version from U.S. one would have to import it first. I see reason why a non-U.S. citizen would do that. So you are completely off-topic when trying to frighten people with jail. As a sidecomment, these problems with ITAR concern all programs dealing with non-bogus encrypting, not only PGP. Even PkZip has had its dose of problems. Sorry if this was a bit flamy. Not intentional. -- Janne Kukonlehto jtklehto@phoenix.oulu.fi http://phoenix.oulu.fi/~jtklehto/index.html jtklehto@stekt.oulu.fi http://stekt.oulu.fi/~jtklehto/index.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 08:06:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16708; Fri, 24 Jun 94 08:06:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05749; Fri, 24 Jun 94 07:57:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05742; Fri, 24 Jun 94 07:57:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHCRj-000005C; Fri, 24 Jun 94 07:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Kevin J. Sinclair" Subject: Pine Problem with inbox Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 21:58:27 GMT Hi, I have 2 inbox folders in my Pine folder list. One is INBOX and one is inbox - same spelling just lower case. I would like to have only 1, it bugs me. I tried to delete 1 or the other of them but it did not work; I got some kind of message that they are 'special' files. Any advice here? Thanks, kevin kjs@rahul.net -- Kevin { Kevin J. Sinclair: kjs@rahul.net } From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 08:59:11 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19215; Fri, 24 Jun 94 08:59:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18302; Fri, 24 Jun 94 08:52:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18296; Fri, 24 Jun 94 08:52:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHDIn-000005C; Fri, 24 Jun 94 08:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: re: Help! Folder lock problems with PC-Pine... Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 16:24:33 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2ucja1$a4d@news.udel.edu> Randy Zagar: The ``can't open mailbox lock, access is read-only'' message suggests that there is a problem creating files on /tmp. Please let me know if there is any way I can help (I wrote that code). -- Mark -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 09:03:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19419; Fri, 24 Jun 94 09:03:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07191; Fri, 24 Jun 94 08:57:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07177; Fri, 24 Jun 94 08:57:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHDKN-00000PC; Fri, 24 Jun 94 08:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jnmeade@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu (James Meade) Subject: Off-line composing Date: 22 Jun 1994 06:36:52 -0500 Message-Id: <2u97ok$1nqa@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> Can anyone tell me how to compose an ascii text file off-line and upload it via Pine? I've been answering while connected, but that is obviously not very satisfactory. Thank you -- Jim - Farmer - Iowa City, IA, From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 09:21:19 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20638; Fri, 24 Jun 94 09:21:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19044; Fri, 24 Jun 94 09:13:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19038; Fri, 24 Jun 94 09:13:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHDZV-000005C; Fri, 24 Jun 94 08:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ben@eno.Princeton.EDU (Ben Bolker) Subject: 2 queries about directing saved mail Message-Id: <1994Jun22.143616.6475@Princeton.EDU> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 14:36:16 GMT Two quick questions about saving mail msgs in Pine (3.89); I *think* based on my reading of the man pages/.rc that these actions are impossible in the current version but was curious about workarounds/future versions/etc. (1) I would like to have the default save folder be determined by the *alias* of the sender, if possible. I know about "saved-msg-name-rule= by-sender", and I'm using it at the moment, but would prefer (e.g.) if I get a message from "bloggs@crock.edu", who is listed in my addressbook as "joe", to save to folder "joe" rather than folder "bloggs" (default behavior). (2) Is it possible to save *outgoing* messages in different boxes depending on recipient? (I know one can configure default-fcc ... one could also Cc: all mail to oneself, and then decide where to put it when it came back.) Any suggestions would be appreciated. -- Benjamin Bolker Dep't of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, ben@eno.princeton.edu Princeton University tel: (609) 258-6886, fax: (609) 258-1334 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 09:24:27 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20721; Fri, 24 Jun 94 09:24:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07833; Fri, 24 Jun 94 09:18:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07827; Fri, 24 Jun 94 09:18:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHDgV-00000BC; Fri, 24 Jun 94 09:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rak@netaxs.com (nobody special) Subject: Re: ^L Date: 22 Jun 1994 11:47:40 GMT Message-Id: <2u98cs$f7i@netaxs.com> References: <1994Jun22.003034.17843@csc.canberra.edu.au> Ogawa / Taro Stephen (ISE) (u934132@student.canberra.edu.au) wrote: : How can Insert ^Ls in pine - Any way? : Thanx, Taro. One way: use vi to create a file containing only a ^L. When you need a ^L inserted in pine (or pico), ^Read that file into your document. Edit it into place. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 09:38:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21239; Fri, 24 Jun 94 09:38:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19519; Fri, 24 Jun 94 09:32:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19513; Fri, 24 Jun 94 09:32:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHDvm-000005C; Fri, 24 Jun 94 09:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: meb@Deakin.Edu.Au (Matt Bottrell) Subject: Re: Pine Problem with inbox Date: 24 Jun 1994 00:09:26 GMT Message-Id: <2ud87m$7go@sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au> References: In article "Kevin J. Sinclair" writes: > >Hi, I have 2 inbox folders in my Pine folder list. One is INBOX and one >is inbox - same spelling just lower case. I would like to have only 1, >it bugs me. I tried to delete 1 or the other of them but it did not >work; I got some kind of message that they are 'special' files. Any >advice here? Thanks, > Why not open one folder and sve them all into the other? Should solve the problem. Cheers, Matt. -- Sender: Matt Bottrell | Email: meb@deakin.edu.au Origin: Deakin University, | meb@suburbia.apana.org.au Waurn Ponds Campus. | System Error: Keyboard not found. Victoria, Australia. | Press F1 to continue. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 09:47:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21653; Fri, 24 Jun 94 09:47:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19939; Fri, 24 Jun 94 09:42:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from cato.safb.af.mil by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19933; Fri, 24 Jun 94 09:42:21 -0700 Received: from tiberius.safb.af.mil by cato.safb.af.mil.safb.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00179; Fri, 24 Jun 94 11:39:38 CDT Received: by tiberius.safb.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01077; Fri, 24 Jun 94 11:39:38 CDT Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 11:34:24 -0500 (CDT) From: John Daum Subject: Re: TCP error... (fwd) To: Pine Help List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Blame resides elsewhere.... Not a pine issue. The author(s) of the Trumpet Winsock responded: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 11:43:06 +1000 From:trumpet-support@petros.psychol.utas.edu.au To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: TCP error... The problem is a stack overflow in the internals of the winsock. QVTNET is the culprit. The rest of the messages are the attempt at recovery by the winsock. We will be improving matters by redesigning our tracing code to not use as much stack. Of course enabling the traces can result in stack overflows which wouldn't occur under normal circumstances. Peter > writes: >Subject: TCP error... >Date: 24 Jun 1994 03:29:00 +1000 >I am cross-posting this to the pine list because of the apparent >relationship to the pine viewer. >Pine version is: 3.87 >Trumpet Winsock version is: 1.0 Rev B beta #6 >The Trumpet Winsock console reports: >CRITICAL ERROR: TCP poll reentrancy detected - please report exact >circumstance >socket 1 killed >socket 2 killed >Task WNQVTWSK(3647) did not call WSACleanup >>..... TCP trace information deleted ......<< From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 10:01:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22359; Fri, 24 Jun 94 10:01:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08728; Fri, 24 Jun 94 09:52:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08722; Fri, 24 Jun 94 09:52:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHECE-000005C; Fri, 24 Jun 94 09:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chip@clark.net (Chip Davis) Subject: beginner_level help text (nit) Date: 24 Jun 1994 00:15:22 GMT Message-Id: <2ud8iq$mlr@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In Pico, when you ^Justify you get a cheerful little message saying you "Can now UnJustify!" and the ^U legend temporarily changes from "UnCut Text" to "UnJustify". In Pine Compose, using ^J changes ^U from "UnCut Text" to "Unfill" temporarily, and no message is issued. The message is helpful to novices who have 'beginner_level=ON', especially since the unjustify option goes away if you do anything else. More importantly, shouldn't the legend indicate "UnJustify" instead of "UnFill"? -- -Chip Davis- chip@clark.net - Rexx Language Association - Team OS/2 PP-ASEL/IA : Cessna 172A : based 1W5 (Wolf Airport) : "Oshkosh '94 Bound" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 10:18:58 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22857; Fri, 24 Jun 94 10:18:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20542; Fri, 24 Jun 94 10:03:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20536; Fri, 24 Jun 94 10:03:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHEOM-00000BC; Fri, 24 Jun 94 09:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chip@clark.net (Chip Davis) Subject: Re: Marking files as answered Date: 24 Jun 1994 00:33:31 GMT Message-Id: <2ud9kr$mlr@clarknet.clark.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 20 Jun 1994 09:06:01 -0700 (PDT), David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : Dare I say it? These features will be available in Pine 3.90. I'm not familiar with the packaging of Pine, but when you say a feature will be in Pine 3.90, does that mean we'll be getting a new version of Pico as well? It would be wonderful if Pine Compose and tin post presented an identical editor environment. -- -Chip Davis- chip@clark.net - Rexx Language Association - Team OS/2 "It's tough to do a double-blind on Life." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 10:44:42 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24042; Fri, 24 Jun 94 10:44:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21634; Fri, 24 Jun 94 10:39:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21625; Fri, 24 Jun 94 10:39:48 -0700 Received: by watsun.cc.columbia.edu id AA02486 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Fri, 24 Jun 1994 13:39:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 94 13:39:38 EDT From: Joe Brennan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: beginner_level help text (nit) In-Reply-To: Your message of 24 Jun 1994 00:15:22 GMT Message-Id: Actually it would be nice to use the word Fill throughout, since that is what it does. It does not justify the margins. Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York brennan@columbia.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 11:08:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25106; Fri, 24 Jun 94 11:08:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10446; Fri, 24 Jun 94 11:03:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10440; Fri, 24 Jun 94 11:03:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHFL9-00000BC; Fri, 24 Jun 94 10:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pgreen@csn.org (Phillip Green) Subject: Pine.conf Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 15:45:26 GMT The distribution copy that I got for Pine 3.89 didn't come with a pine.conf. Could someone send me an example that I can start with??? -- Phil Green pgreen@csn.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 11:37:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26235; Fri, 24 Jun 94 11:37:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22999; Fri, 24 Jun 94 11:33:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22993; Fri, 24 Jun 94 11:33:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHFlk-000005C; Fri, 24 Jun 94 11:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ivler@bbs.ug.eds.com (netsurfer (EDS)) Subject: Presort incomming to doifferent inboxes by TO: field Date: 22 Jun 94 06:39:51 GMT Message-Id: <1994Jun22.063951.1@bbs.ug.eds.com> What do I have to do in my .pinerc file in order to get messages to go into different inboxes based on who they are to? ex: username is ivler alias is systemsmangler when mail is sen to ivler it should go to ivler's INBOX when mail is sent to systemsmangler it should go to ivler's SYS inbox where SYS is an inbox for all email sent to systemsmangler This would permit a presort of the incomming mail by alias. Thus allowing numerous people to have mail sent to them about projects that they are on, and have the project mail sent to the project files automagically. I have read the man pages for PINE, and have looked at the .cr file as well, I believe it can be done, but I can't get the to-value stuff to work. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. jmi ivler@bbs.ug.eds.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 11:38:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26327; Fri, 24 Jun 94 11:38:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11166; Fri, 24 Jun 94 11:33:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11160; Fri, 24 Jun 94 11:33:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHFnr-00000BC; Fri, 24 Jun 94 11:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wolfsong@sashimi.wwa.com (Andrew N. Hunt) Subject: encrypt() in pine? Date: 23 Jun 1994 21:43:30 -0500 Message-Id: <2udh8i$brd@sashimi.wwa.com> Is it possible to encrypt/decrypt messages in pine? I know that in Elm, one types: [encrypt] Schtuff to be encrypted... [clear] but can a pine user do something similiar? ah. Andrew Hunt Wolf Song Design wolfsong@wwa.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 12:09:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27811; Fri, 24 Jun 94 12:09:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23839; Fri, 24 Jun 94 12:03:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23833; Fri, 24 Jun 94 12:03:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHGGg-000005C; Fri, 24 Jun 94 11:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: amca@matilda.vut.edu.au (Alasdair McAndrew) Subject: How do I not save attachments? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 02:02:38 GMT Hi there, I've recently been using Pine to mail postscript files to people, attaching them to a small ascii message. I would like the message to be saved as per default to my sent-mail folder, but not the attachment. As it happens currently, the whole thing gets saved automatically, and then I have to expunge the large attached file from my sent-mail folder using a text editor. This seems very clumsy. I've checked the on-line help, the technical notes, and the configuration file, but there's nothing which seems to do what I want. Can anyone help? Thanks for your trouble. cheers, Alasdair McAndrew Department of Computer and Mathematical Sciences Victoria University of Technology Email: amca@matilda.vut.edu.au P.O. 14428, Melbourne Mail Centre Fax: +61 3 688 4050 Melbourne, Vic 3000, Australia Phone: +61 3 688 4344 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 12:19:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28163; Fri, 24 Jun 94 12:19:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12324; Fri, 24 Jun 94 12:13:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12318; Fri, 24 Jun 94 12:13:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHGPk-00000BC; Fri, 24 Jun 94 11:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: erdely@wam.umd.edu (Micos Express) Subject: Re: Pine.conf Date: 24 Jun 1994 16:11:29 GMT Message-Id: <2uf0jh$ldc@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: Phillip Green (pgreen@csn.org) wrote: > The distribution copy that I got for Pine 3.89 didn't come with a > pine.conf. Could someone send me an example that I can start with??? type: "cd /usr/local/lib" "pine -conf > pine.conf" "pico pine.conf" --to edit the file with the settings you want > -- > Phil Green > pgreen@csn.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Erdely - The Micos Express University of Maryland at College Park "Mother is the name for God in the lips and hearts of children." --Brandon Lee -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 12:23:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28331; Fri, 24 Jun 94 12:23:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24314; Fri, 24 Jun 94 12:18:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24308; Fri, 24 Jun 94 12:18:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHGS1-00000DC; Fri, 24 Jun 94 11:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: erdely@wam.umd.edu (Micos Express) Subject: Re: >'s and |'s with Pine Date: 24 Jun 1994 04:12:21 GMT Message-Id: <2udmf5$9g6@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: Justin Maki (maki@rintintin.Colorado.EDU) wrote: > Often I find it useful to mail files to people using the unix > redirection tools (ie, < and |). > thanks. > Justin In the .pinerc file, there is a section called "feature-list=". The features are listed above this line. There is a feature: "enable-unix-pipe-cmd" which is included in "old-growth". -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Erdely - The Micos Express University of Maryland at College Park "Mother is the name for God in the lips and hearts of children." --Brandon Lee -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 12:43:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29009; Fri, 24 Jun 94 12:43:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12947; Fri, 24 Jun 94 12:38:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12941; Fri, 24 Jun 94 12:38:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHGp4-000005C; Fri, 24 Jun 94 12:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: Deleting message in Pine activates Xbiff (?) Date: 22 Jun 1994 19:17:50 -0700 Message-Id: <2uarce$34s@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: <2ua8qb$aj7@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In article <2ua8qb$aj7@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, Kyle K. wrote: : :I am running PINE on an HP 720 running HP-UX 9.01, and everytime I :delete a message in PINE it causes Xbiff to put the flag up. Why does :it do this, Perhaps xbiff is naively stat'ing your mail spool file and assuming that any size change means there is new mail. :and more importantly how can I stop it? If that is the problem you should look for a better version of xbiff. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 12:54:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29350; Fri, 24 Jun 94 12:54:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25000; Fri, 24 Jun 94 12:48:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24992; Fri, 24 Jun 94 12:48:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHGvT-00000BC; Fri, 24 Jun 94 12:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: more .sigs Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 09:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: It is on the list for future consideration... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 24 Jun 1994, 0000-Admin wrote: > Hi all, > > Since Pine Is No longer Elm, the feature of using different sigs for > local and non-local mail is gone. I think this is silly (basically > because I need it :) Did I overlook how to enable this feature or is it > planned for new versions? > > Any comments? > > Greetings, > Steef > -------------- > S.G. de Bruijn E-Mail: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl > Twente University of Technology, Dept. of Computer Science > Enschede The Netherlands > Phone: Work: +53 894191 Home: +53 334812 > -----------------------==== @@ ====----------------------- > signature: file not found > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 13:27:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01265; Fri, 24 Jun 94 13:27:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13938; Fri, 24 Jun 94 13:18:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13932; Fri, 24 Jun 94 13:18:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHHRB-00000PC; Fri, 24 Jun 94 13:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsallen@rs6.tcs.tulane.edu (Jay Allen) Subject: Alternate editor and immediate gratification Date: 23 Jun 1994 03:38:16 GMT Message-Id: <2ub038$3ca@news.cs.tulane.edu> Hi! Is there anyway to *START* a composition of a message with an alternate editor instead of pico. Instead of having to use ^_? It's not that it is one more key to press, actually it's quite a few. (Hard to explain... I'm running a random .signature generator, and it needs to be routed through the program before running pico in pine.) Basically, I have to press ^_, then exit the READ IN my .signature file AGAIN! It's really a pain.... Any suggestions? _________________________________________________________________________ Jay Allen Texas-Ex '93 Tulane Medical School Southeastern Intercollegiate Sailing Association Executive Vice-President _________________________________________________________________________ --- If I ever opened a trampoline store, I don't think I'd call it --- Trampo-Land, because you might think it was a store for tramps, which --- is not the inpression we are trying to convey with our store. On the --- other hand, we would not prohibit tramps from browsing, or testing the --- trampolines, unless a tramp's gyrations seemed to be getting out of --- control. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 13:33:35 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01491; Fri, 24 Jun 94 13:33:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26315; Fri, 24 Jun 94 13:28:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26308; Fri, 24 Jun 94 13:28:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHHYm-000005C; Fri, 24 Jun 94 13:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jonc@pinnacle.co.nz (Jonathan Chen) Subject: Re: .sig allways at top Date: 23 Jun 1994 14:48:16 +1200 Message-Id: <2uat5g$9pi@mip01.pinnacle.co.nz> References: <2u58hj$j2e@tahoma.cwu.edu> In <2u58hj$j2e@tahoma.cwu.edu> jirka@tahoma.cwu.edu (Ian Jirka) writes: >Howdy. >Whenever I reply to a message, pine puts my .sig at the top of the >message. I would prefer to have it put at the bottom. Is this >possible? Modify ~/.pinerc : feature-list=signature-at-bottom -- Jonathan Chen | e-mail : jonc@pinnacle.co.nz #include | Voice : +64.9.489.7020 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 15:03:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05022; Fri, 24 Jun 94 15:03:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16252; Fri, 24 Jun 94 14:58:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16246; Fri, 24 Jun 94 14:58:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHIyW-00000HC; Fri, 24 Jun 94 14:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: martyl@pnet1.pnet.com (Marty Lindower) Subject: Re: Off-line composing Date: 22 Jun 1994 23:36:06 -0400 Message-Id: <2uavv6$s6h@pnet1.pnet.com> References: <2u97ok$1nqa@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> James Meade (jnmeade@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu) wrote: : Can anyone tell me how to compose an ascii text file off-line and upload it via Pine? I've been answering while connected, but that is obviously not very satisfactory. : Thank you Jim- It's easy. Open your favorite text editor. Type the recipient's address on the first line. Type 3 returns, then the subject, then return (or 2). Type the body of your message. Save it, go online, then use your comm software to send the textfile, or copy it all and 'paste it' to the modem (if you've got a Mac, that works great). Marty From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 16:04:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07365; Fri, 24 Jun 94 16:04:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00668; Fri, 24 Jun 94 15:58:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00662; Fri, 24 Jun 94 15:58:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHJqQ-00000DC; Fri, 24 Jun 94 15:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mag@jbss3.jb.man.ac.uk (Mike Garrett) Subject: Re: Off-line composing In-Reply-To: jnmeade@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu's message of 22 Jun 1994 06:36:52 -0500 Message-Id: References: <2u97ok$1nqa@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 11:10:29 GMT >Can anyone tell me how to compose an ascii text file off-line and >upload it via Pine? I've been answering while connected, but that is >obviously not very satisfactory. Create the file offline with your fav editor e.g. emacs, then read it in to pine with the ctrl-r command. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Garrett | mag@jb.man.ac.uk (Internet); +44 (0)477-571321 x209 NRAL, Jodrell Bank | (tel); +44 (0)477-571618 (FAX). Macclesfield | Cheshire, SK11 9DL, UK | "Columbia your coming up on go-go-go!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 17:48:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10817; Fri, 24 Jun 94 17:48:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19664; Fri, 24 Jun 94 17:44:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19658; Fri, 24 Jun 94 17:44:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHLWz-00000DC; Fri, 24 Jun 94 17:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: spooner@osler.wustl.edu (Andy Spooner) Subject: Re: What is PINE? Date: 22 Jun 1994 14:44:07 GMT Message-Id: <2u9innINNhtd@medicine.wustl.edu> References: <2u787e$jrq@hpbs3591.boi.hp.com> bblohm@boi.hp.com (Bill Blohm) writes: >This newsgroup just popped up on my newsserver today. Excellent timing. >I just got a message from someone and it appears that it is created with >PINE. The result is that I can read the first paragraph, but everything >else is a large block of ASCII. >What is PINE? Pine is a mail program. If someone sent you some uuencoded text via pine, they just as easily could have used UNIX Mail, elm, Eudora, MS-Mail, or whatever mail program their computer supported. Pine runs on various platforms. I use the UNIX version and am very pleased with it (I prefer it to UNIX Mail or elm). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 18:03:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11202; Fri, 24 Jun 94 18:03:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03453; Fri, 24 Jun 94 17:59:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03443; Fri, 24 Jun 94 17:59:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHLhC-00000HC; Fri, 24 Jun 94 17:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cabirac@yorick.umd.edu (Daniel M. Cabirac) Subject: blocking and saving w/pine Date: 24 Jun 1994 21:35:40 GMT Message-Id: <2ufjjd$e3c@umd5.umd.edu> Is it possible to block or cut a few lines from a long file and save them to a file name? I often need to do this, but I've never been able to figure out how to do it with pine. I know this can be done by using emacs, vi, or in windoze by saving to the clipboard; however I would rather find a way to do it with pine/pico. +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Daniel Cabirac Work: biotech@nalusda.gov | | Biotechnology Information Center voice (301)504-5947 | | NAL/USDA, Rm. 1400 FAX (301)504-7098 | | 10301 Baltimore Blvd. Personal: cabirac@wam.umd.edu | | Beltsville, MD 20705-2351 (301)794-6618 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 19:07:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12413; Fri, 24 Jun 94 19:07:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20739; Fri, 24 Jun 94 18:59:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20733; Fri, 24 Jun 94 18:59:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHMgG-00000IC; Fri, 24 Jun 94 18:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maki@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Justin Maki) Subject: Re: >'s and |'s with Pine Message-Id: References: <2udmf5$9g6@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 14:58:40 GMT Micos Express wrote: >"enable-unix-pipe-cmd" which is included in "old-growth". I use the old-growth set, but still get this message: 'Can't access terminal or input is not a terminal. Redirection of standard input is not allowed. For example "pine < file" doesn't work.' Will Pine 3.90 be allowed to do this? Justin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 19:19:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12623; Fri, 24 Jun 94 19:19:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04474; Fri, 24 Jun 94 19:10:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04468; Fri, 24 Jun 94 19:10:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHMpQ-00000LC; Fri, 24 Jun 94 18:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pfaffman@pilot.njin.net (Jay Pfaffman) Subject: Re: DOS Pine on top of TCP/IP LanManager Message-Id: Date: 22 Jun 94 19:54:16 GMT References: <9406102253.AA11591@riscy.scott-scott.com> dbird@riscy.scott-scott.com (Donald Bird) writes: >We use both NETBEUI and TCP/IP in our environment and have gotten Pine to >run on PCs that run both NETBEUI and TCP/IP as well as PCs with just TCP/IP. >Just recently we had a problem printing Pine e-mail on network connected >printers and determined that we needed NETBEUI installed and could not run >with just LAN Manager's TCP/IP and whatever packet driver we needed for Pine. I too run PC-Pine with TCP/IP lanmanager with ndispkt. It works, but I have given up on being able to use lanmanager stuff while using any packet-driver applications. If anyone has words to the contrary, I'd like to hear them.-- Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@itc.org 802-453-2457 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 20:07:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13338; Fri, 24 Jun 94 20:07:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21534; Fri, 24 Jun 94 19:59:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21528; Fri, 24 Jun 94 19:59:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHNcU-00000NC; Fri, 24 Jun 94 19:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: valko@cyberspace.com (Jack Valko) Subject: Re: .sig allways at top Date: 24 Jun 1994 15:40:07 -0700 Message-Id: <2ufnc7$jot@cyberspace.com> References: <2u58hj$j2e@tahoma.cwu.edu> <2uat5g$9pi@mip01.pinnacle.co.nz> Jonathan Chen (jonc@pinnacle.co.nz) wrote: : In <2u58hj$j2e@tahoma.cwu.edu> jirka@tahoma.cwu.edu (Ian Jirka) writes: : Modify ~/.pinerc : : feature-list=signature-at-bottom I tried this with pine 3.07 and it doesn't work. Do I need 3.8x? Jack From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 20:07:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13340; Fri, 24 Jun 94 20:07:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05132; Fri, 24 Jun 94 19:59:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05126; Fri, 24 Jun 94 19:59:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHNcW-00000OC; Fri, 24 Jun 94 19:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: valko@cyberspace.com (Jack Valko) Subject: Re: encrypt() in pine? Date: 24 Jun 1994 15:43:01 -0700 Message-Id: <2ufnhl$jqb@cyberspace.com> References: <2udh8i$brd@sashimi.wwa.com> Andrew N. Hunt (wolfsong@sashimi.wwa.com) wrote: : Is it possible to encrypt/decrypt messages in pine? : I know that in Elm, one types: : [encrypt] : Schtuff to be encrypted... : [clear] : but can a pine user do something similiar? I would like to know how to do this as well! Jack From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 20:21:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13577; Fri, 24 Jun 94 20:21:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21762; Fri, 24 Jun 94 20:15:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21756; Fri, 24 Jun 94 20:15:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHNrD-00000DC; Fri, 24 Jun 94 19:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kkopp@cern06.ce.uiuc.edu (Kyle K.) Subject: Deleting message in Pine activates Xbiff (?) Date: 22 Jun 1994 21:00:59 GMT Message-Id: <2ua8qb$aj7@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> I am running PINE on an HP 720 running HP-UX 9.01, and everytime I delete a message in PINE it causes Xbiff to put the flag up. Why does it do this, and more importantly how can I stop it? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 24 20:42:05 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13904; Fri, 24 Jun 94 20:42:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05614; Fri, 24 Jun 94 20:34:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05608; Fri, 24 Jun 94 20:34:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHO9J-00000OC; Fri, 24 Jun 94 20:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine.conf Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 09:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: You can create your own with "pine -conf > pine.conf". |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 24 Jun 1994, Phillip Green wrote: > > The distribution copy that I got for Pine 3.89 didn't come with a > pine.conf. Could someone send me an example that I can start with??? > -- > > Phil Green > pgreen@csn.org > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 08:36:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26064; Sat, 25 Jun 94 08:36:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01376; Sat, 25 Jun 94 08:29:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01370; Sat, 25 Jun 94 08:29:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHZFp-00000JC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 08:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pcfong@hkusub ((| Malboro PC |) 8D) Subject: Re: Suspend during Pine Message-Id: References: <2u824k$iog@news.cs.tulane.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 05:07:14 GMT Jay Allen (jsallen@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu) wrote: : For some reason, I can't suspend all of the time in PINE. I have : suspend-enabled by the old-growth setting. I have been able to do it in : the past. Now it says it doesn't recognize the command. Any ideas? If the suspend-enabled feature in .pinerc does not work, have you tried to run pine with -z option? -- Malboro Fong pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. Those who WATCH things happen. Those who WONDER what happened. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 08:39:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26143; Sat, 25 Jun 94 08:39:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01480; Sat, 25 Jun 94 08:35:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from admin.aurora.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01469; Sat, 25 Jun 94 08:35:14 -0700 Received: by admin.aurora.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA12961; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 10:35:08 -0500 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 10:35:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Lowe Subject: Pine Execution in Shell Script? To: Pine Information List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it possible to use pine within a shell script to deliver mail messages? For the moment, we are using the Berkeley mailer to generate mail from a shell script. TIA. - Steve Lowe Aurora University slowe@admin.aurora.edu 708 844 5290 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 09:04:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26551; Sat, 25 Jun 94 09:04:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15887; Sat, 25 Jun 94 08:59:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15881; Sat, 25 Jun 94 08:59:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHZki-00000DC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 08:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chas@festival.ed.ac.uk (C Spencer) Subject: Re: UNIX MAIL TO PINE? References: <2u9nj7$5pj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 10:28:25 GMT pettit@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Elsie Pettit ) writes: >Can anyone tell me how to transfer a document from Unix's mailbox to Pine's >folders? >TIA >-- This sounds like a problem which we have, also, since the Unix mainframe here uses MMDF mail, so that the format of the mailbox is different from the sendmail format recognized by PINE. The systems people here have helped out by providing a utility called smdeliver, which adds an incoming message to a specified mailbox using sendmail format, so that PINE can read it. I do not know the soruce of the utility, whether it was produced in-house, or acquired from somewhere. The utility, as it stands, isn't able to convert existing mailboxes from one format to the other, but I haven't pushed anybody to get this. Can I ask if there are any plans to make an option for PINE to read MMDF format mailboxes? Chas From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 09:48:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27122; Sat, 25 Jun 94 09:48:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02449; Sat, 25 Jun 94 09:41:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02443; Sat, 25 Jun 94 09:41:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHaXV-00000DC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 09:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pkandava@sju.edu (Paul Kandavalli) Subject: How to work with pine on UNIX Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 14:50:19 GMT Hi, Could anybody please tell me about how to use pine on unix. Thanks, Paul. pkandava@sjuphil.sju.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 10:07:25 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27433; Sat, 25 Jun 94 10:07:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16744; Sat, 25 Jun 94 10:01:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16738; Sat, 25 Jun 94 10:01:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHarZ-00000DC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 09:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: przemko@reks.uia.ac.be (Przemko) Subject: 2Qs: SGI and X Message-Id: <1994Jun23.122916.2374@reks.uia.ac.be> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 12:29:16 GMT Hi! As the subject line says: is there PINE for Silicon Graphics? is there an "x-pine"? ThanX Przemko From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 10:13:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27530; Sat, 25 Jun 94 10:13:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16836; Sat, 25 Jun 94 10:07:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16830; Sat, 25 Jun 94 10:07:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHarz-00000IC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 09:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ddic@u.washington.edu (Doug Dicharry) Subject: Re: How to work with pine on UNIX Date: 25 Jun 1994 16:25:11 GMT Message-Id: <2uhlp7$oo4@news.u.washington.edu> References: In article , Paul Kandavalli wrote: > Could anybody please tell me about how to use pine on unix. > I learned from an online UNIX manual page. Try typing "man pine" (without the quotation marks) at the prompt. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Doug Dicharry Bellevue, WA ddic@u.washington.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 10:51:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28088; Sat, 25 Jun 94 10:51:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17326; Sat, 25 Jun 94 10:46:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17320; Sat, 25 Jun 94 10:46:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHbWM-00000IC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 10:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hasley@dad.bgsu.edu (John Hasley) Subject: Pine and FreePort menu system Date: 20 Jun 1994 21:35:27 GMT Message-Id: <2u522v$on4@falcon.bgsu.edu> We are implementing a captive menu system (FreePort) and would like to use pine and pico as the MUA and editor of choice. Does anyone have any suggestions on things to look out for? (Diffs to code especially welcome.) The person who had this task before I did sent messages to a couple places and got a few responses (removing personal printer and alternate editor, details available), but there are still quite a few problems (restricting the user to one directory, for instance). Plus I would like to handle some options without the brute force "you can't do this" (but that may have to wait for the second version). Are there others looking at this? Send me mail or post to the list if you have something. I'll send a summary of what I get. Thanks for your help. -- John Hasley Internet: hasley@dad.bgsu.edu University Computer Services UUCP: ...andy.bgsu.edu!hasley Bowling Green State University BITNET: hasley@BGSUOPIE Bowling Green, OH 43403-0125 MaBell: (419) 372-9989 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 11:22:07 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28661; Sat, 25 Jun 94 11:22:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03646; Sat, 25 Jun 94 11:16:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03640; Sat, 25 Jun 94 11:16:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHbzU-00000DC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 10:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: etf@christa.unh.edu (Eugene T Filley) Subject: Is debug mode secure in pine? Date: 23 Jun 1994 13:55:05 GMT Message-Id: <2uc47p$qef@mozz.unh.edu> Is Pine's debug mode secure? Whenever I read my mail using pine and then exit pine I see files named .pine-debug1 (where the number may go up to 4). The sysadmin says that he didn't install pine (some other system admin must have) but if he had he wouldn't have left it in debug mode. Nevertheless, he says, it is not a security problem. In another case (perhaps related, perhaps unrelated) I have been told that when an IRC server is compiled in debug mode the sysadmin can read everything that is said.) What's the scoop? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 12:51:14 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00130; Sat, 25 Jun 94 12:51:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18909; Sat, 25 Jun 94 12:46:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18903; Sat, 25 Jun 94 12:46:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHdQN-00000DC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 12:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ROD_N@rodpc.triumf.ca (Rod B. Nussbaumer) Subject: PICO question: Quit-without-save? Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 08:17:30 Message-Id: I am using pico distributed with pine 3.89 on Solaris OS, and prefer the -t option, which eliminates the confirmation dialog on exit from pico. However, I can't see any way to quit without saving edits. I have RTFM, and didn't see anything there. Is it possible? How. If not possible, will this be changed in future versions, soon? It seems like a natural binding for the ^Q key... ---- Rod. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rod Nussbaumer, Programmer/Technologist Internet: bomr@triumf.ca TRIUMF --- University of British Columbia, Phone: (604)222-1047 ext 510 Vancouver, BC, Canada. FAX: (604)222-8325 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 13:51:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00965; Sat, 25 Jun 94 13:51:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05426; Sat, 25 Jun 94 13:46:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05420; Sat, 25 Jun 94 13:46:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHeJl-00000DC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 13:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: 2Qs: SGI and X Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 08:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994Jun23.122916.2374@reks.uia.ac.be> Yes, there is an SGI port of Pine. There is not currently an X-pine, but Ian Leiman is working on a Motif based Pine derivative called SPRUCE. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 23 Jun 1994, Przemko wrote: > Hi! > As the subject line says: > is there PINE for Silicon Graphics? > is there an "x-pine"? > ThanX > Przemko > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 14:01:34 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01125; Sat, 25 Jun 94 14:01:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19804; Sat, 25 Jun 94 13:56:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19798; Sat, 25 Jun 94 13:56:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHeUC-00000IC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 13:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: PICO question: Quit-without-save? Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 09:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Our assumption is that the caller of "pico -t" has a way to cancel the edit/message external to pico. ^Q is not a good candidate because it is the XOFF character and has special meaning over some communication channels. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 23 Jun 1994, Rod B. Nussbaumer wrote: > I am using pico distributed with pine 3.89 on Solaris OS, > and prefer the -t option, which eliminates the confirmation > dialog on exit from pico. However, I can't see any way to > quit without saving edits. I have RTFM, and didn't see > anything there. Is it possible? How. If not possible, > will this be changed in future versions, soon? It seems > like a natural binding for the ^Q key... > ---- Rod. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Rod Nussbaumer, Programmer/Technologist Internet: bomr@triumf.ca > TRIUMF --- University of British Columbia, Phone: (604)222-1047 ext 510 > Vancouver, BC, Canada. FAX: (604)222-8325 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 14:33:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01522; Sat, 25 Jun 94 14:33:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20160; Sat, 25 Jun 94 14:26:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20154; Sat, 25 Jun 94 14:26:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHezZ-00000DC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 14:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mark@vsfl.demon.co.uk (Mark Statham) Subject: Port to HPUX, where are the mods? Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 16:13:37 +0000 Message-Id: <772388017snz@vsfl.demon.co.uk> Hi There fellow pine users, Does anyone know where I get get hold of the mods so that Pine will compile on HP under HP-UX ? I can't find any mention of the port in the contrib section that comes with the 3.9 distribution. I know that I can get the binaries from lots of places but I would really like a version which I can compile myself, mainly because it'll mean less ftp'ing, use less bandwidth etc. Thanks for your help in advance, whats that I here something about 3.90 ?!! Mark =============================================================================== Mark Jonathan Statham mark@vsfl.demon.co.uk (WORK) Underpaid/Overworked Placement Student statham@bmth.ac.uk (UNI) National & Provincial Building Society "You've done what with my core!!" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 14:33:28 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01542; Sat, 25 Jun 94 14:33:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05933; Sat, 25 Jun 94 14:26:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05927; Sat, 25 Jun 94 14:26:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHezv-00000IC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 14:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: marilyn@monroe.ocis.temple.edu (Goddess of Macgic!) Subject: Re: Can TIN use PINE to send messages? Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 12:37:17 -0400 Message-Id: References: <2sjg4n$o25@news.bu.edu> <2t29b6$mqs@netnews.upenn.edu> In article (Michael S. Robinson) wrote: > "pine user@site -s subject < tmp.sndxxxx" > Pine can't accept the "<" input. actually the format would be pine -s "Subject goes here" user@site < filename. Unfortunately Pine 3.07 doesn't support this < yet. But you can acheive the same by using simple mail command instead of pine, as pine concentrates more on the userinterface. -- Marilyn Monroe Bring Back the Goddess Inc. _______________________________________________________________________ The views expressed here are mine, my own and mine only. URL- http://monroe.temple.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 14:36:07 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01598; Sat, 25 Jun 94 14:36:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06028; Sat, 25 Jun 94 14:31:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06022; Sat, 25 Jun 94 14:31:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHf5B-00000JC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 14:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Is debug mode secure in pine? Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 09:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2uc47p$qef@mozz.unh.edu> I don't see any difference in the security of Pine with debugging turned on or off. Unless you are using some sort of encryption, nothing you send out in either email or IRC should be considered "secure".... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 23 Jun 1994, Eugene T Filley wrote: > Is Pine's debug mode secure? Whenever I read my mail using pine > and then exit pine I see files named .pine-debug1 (where the number may go > up to 4). The sysadmin says that he didn't install pine (some other > system admin must have) but if he had he wouldn't have left it in debug > mode. Nevertheless, he says, it is not a security problem. In another > case (perhaps related, perhaps unrelated) I have been told that when an > IRC server is compiled in debug mode the sysadmin can read everything that > is said.) > > What's the scoop? > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 14:41:37 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01694; Sat, 25 Jun 94 14:41:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20322; Sat, 25 Jun 94 14:36:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20316; Sat, 25 Jun 94 14:36:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHf69-00000LC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 14:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dqle@netcom.com (The Road Warrior) Subject: HELP! Filtering incoming mail Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 19:19:42 GMT I subscribe to a mail list which generates 20-30 messages a day. I want to have these messages go into a special folder, other than my INBOX. This is so I can have my regular incoming email separate from the stuff generated by the mail list. How do I set this up? I've looked thru the help functions of pine and read the .pinerc file, but can't seem to figure this out. Is it even possible to set up multiple incoming folders in pine? Please email me if you have any advice. Thanks for any and all suggestions. :=) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ David "Q" Le "I...am Q...and you have absolutely Market Strategies, Inc. *no* idea how screwed up this is..." dqle@netcom.com (Q-squared, by Peter David) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 15:11:54 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02105; Sat, 25 Jun 94 15:11:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06483; Sat, 25 Jun 94 15:06:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06477; Sat, 25 Jun 94 15:06:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHfaY-00000DC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 14:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Port to HPUX, where are the mods? Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 10:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <772388017snz@vsfl.demon.co.uk> Pine 3.89 includes an "hpp" port for HP/UX in the main distribution. Just "build hpp" in the top level source directory... Pine 3.90 should be available in a few weeks. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 23 Jun 1994, Mark Statham wrote: > Hi There fellow pine users, > > Does anyone know where I get get hold of the mods so that Pine will compile on > HP under HP-UX ? I can't find any mention of the port in the contrib section > that comes with the 3.9 distribution. > > I know that I can get the binaries from lots of places but I would really like > a version which I can compile myself, mainly because it'll mean less ftp'ing, > use less bandwidth etc. > > Thanks for your help in advance, whats that I here something about 3.90 ?!! > > Mark > > =============================================================================== > Mark Jonathan Statham mark@vsfl.demon.co.uk (WORK) > Underpaid/Overworked Placement Student statham@bmth.ac.uk (UNI) > National & Provincial Building Society "You've done what with my core!!" > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 15:11:54 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02107; Sat, 25 Jun 94 15:11:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20716; Sat, 25 Jun 94 15:06:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20710; Sat, 25 Jun 94 15:06:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHfdQ-00000IC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 14:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: david@cs.dal.ca (David Trueman) Subject: Recurring Pine display problem... Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 16:52:44 GMT Following is the description of a problem several of our FreeNet users are having. I wonder if this is familiar to anyone and whether anyone has a solution. I'd really appreciate any help -- presumably a fixed vt100 termcap entry would do the trick (although other vt100 emulations have no such problem). This is pine 3.88 on SunOS 4.1.3 Thanks in advance. --------- Pine is displaying a blank line between entries in any given folder list. I'm getting around to mentioning this because today my mailbox was full enough to really be a problem. Here's what I'm using... Windows Terminal VT100 emulation Quirks/details: 1) sends index of folder mesg with extra spacing. The result is that if 15 msg, first 7 scroll off top of the screen while PINE thinks that all 15 are displayed. Therefore, if highlight is on msg 1 thru 7 I can't see status of mesg or where the highlight bar is. 2) moving up the index with the cursor control arrows reverse texts and single spaces the entries. The result is as follows. Let's say i have 15 mail messages and I hit the up arrow 5 times: mesgs 1-12 (top portion of screen) will remain double spaced and 10-15 will be reverse text-single spaced. (#10, 11, 12 will appear twice, one reverse text, one normal but double spaced)and were I to go to #5 and then hit ctrl-L the reverse text will be gone and I will remain on mesg #5 which will be outa sight off the top of the screen. 3) Ctrl-L will fix garbage but will not correct spacing frustrations. 4) The described problems occur both with vt100 and vt100x. 6) They occur whether or not the functionkeys are displayed in TERMINAL. 7) I occasionally have a single line near the cursor duplicated in the compose screen. While I have occasional screen leftovers inthe html world of the freenet, I do not have spacing difficulties ever and Ctrl L does the trick. Btw: Telix really butchers the main (html) portion of the freenet with its VT102 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 15:21:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02259; Sat, 25 Jun 94 15:21:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06641; Sat, 25 Jun 94 15:16:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06635; Sat, 25 Jun 94 15:16:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHfjc-00000JC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 14:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: UNIX MAIL TO PINE? Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 10:17:08 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine 3.90 will have full MMDF support, in both dialects. There's a dialect of MMDF which has the four CTRL/A's and a ``From '' line, and another dialect of MMDF which just has the four CTRL/A's. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 15:40:35 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02478; Sat, 25 Jun 94 15:40:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21107; Sat, 25 Jun 94 15:37:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21093; Sat, 25 Jun 94 15:36:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHg4x-00000DC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 15:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ohr@actcom.co.il (Moshe Newman) Subject: Adding headers to mail Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 20:23:49 GMT Message-Id: How do I add my own headers to outgoing email? Things like Reply-To: or Return-Receipt-To: Ideally I'd like to set them as defaults for all mail, second-best I'd like to include them every time I send mail. In elm this is done thru the o)ptions menu, but I can't figure how to do it in pine. Thanks, Morris ohr@actcom.co.il From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 16:05:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02822; Sat, 25 Jun 94 16:05:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07215; Sat, 25 Jun 94 16:02:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07209; Sat, 25 Jun 94 16:02:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHgTa-00000DC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 15:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbp3@Ra.MsState.Edu (Jay B. Parker) Subject: Re: Marking blocks Date: 25 Jun 1994 16:06:51 -0500 Message-Id: <2ui69b$mo5@Ra.MsState.Edu> References: <2uhp00$bbs@news1.digex.net> <2ui3fn$rji@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> +--- stephen wall writes: | gabe@access1.digex.net (Gabe Goldberg) writes: | | >I'd appreciate seeing the key-by-key sequence to mark text blocks in Pine. | | The key sequence is CTRL ^ - yes, ^^. On a terminal I log in on | at work, I have to use shift-ctrl-^.. Merely as a point of information, on differnt occasions with different terminal situations, I've found myself having to use both CTRL-SHIFT-[6] and CTRL-[6]. One terminal in a local PC lab oddly required *two* CTRL-[6]'s to set a mark, but only one to UNset it. Took me a while to figure that one out. -Jay- -- Jay B. Parker -- Mississippi State University -- jbp3@Ra.MsState.Edu "But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep."-Frost From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 16:15:16 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02974; Sat, 25 Jun 94 16:15:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21594; Sat, 25 Jun 94 16:12:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21588; Sat, 25 Jun 94 16:12:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHgZv-00000IC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 15:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu (Randy Zagar) Subject: Help! Folder lock problems with PC-Pine... Date: 23 Jun 1994 18:12:17 GMT Message-Id: <2ucja1$a4d@news.udel.edu> As of today, I've installed the IMAPD server on our Sun (SS1/SunOS) and am trying to use IMAP clients PC-Pine and Mailstrom(Mac). Both programs say they can't open the mailbox lock and that access is read-only. I've already rummaged thru the system finding and killing all the 'orphan' processes and there aren't any left that I can tell. Where do I go from here guys ? -Randy p.s. The 'make' process for IMAPD has to be one of the cleanest I've ever seen. Good work!!! --- ____________________________________________________________________________ / \ | Randy Zagar | Voice: 302/831-1130 | | College of Marine Studies | FAX: 302/831-6838 | | University of Delaware | Internet: zagar@Chester.CMS.UDel.Edu | | Newark, DE 19711 | Compu$erve: 73072,1413 | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | PGP Key available on request, or by 'finger'. | \____________________________________________________________________________/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 16:41:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03378; Sat, 25 Jun 94 16:41:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07689; Sat, 25 Jun 94 16:37:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07683; Sat, 25 Jun 94 16:37:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHh2r-00000DC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 16:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: syb3@aber.ac.uk (Simon Bradley) Subject: Re: mh ---> PINE? Message-Id: <1994Jun23.180055.12690@aber.ac.uk> References: <2u9nj7$5pj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 18:00:55 GMT Ah yes, this reminds me... a while ago, I posted these aliases which convert my mh Inbox (the standard mail handler here) to PINE/UNIX Mail format. At the time, however, the news service here was having problems, and I don't think any news was getting outside Aber! So, here they are again. They'll need slight modification, but only obvious things such as your directory configuration, to make them work properly for you. alias a 'cd ~syb3/mail' alias b 'mv /var/spool/pp/mail-mmdf/syb3 temp1' alias c "tr -d '' < temp1 > temp2" alias d "awk '"'/^Return-Path:/ {print "From syb3@decb.aber.ac.uk Mon Feb 24 00:00:00 1994";a=""} /./ {print a $0;a=""} \\!/./ {a=a "\n"}'"' < temp2 > temp3" alias e 'cat temp3 >> Inbox' alias f 'rm temp*' alias g cd alias h clear alias in 'a;b;c;d;e;f;g;h' alias d is, obviously, all on one line. Oh, and in that alias, at the end of the second line, the format is: backspace, backspace, exclamation mark, slash, full-stop, slash, but this may not show up in your newsreader. Cheers! --Simon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 17:02:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03664; Sat, 25 Jun 94 17:02:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22173; Sat, 25 Jun 94 16:57:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22167; Sat, 25 Jun 94 16:57:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHhLc-00000IC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 16:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cantor@mv.mv.com (David A. Cantor) Subject: Re: PICO question: Quit-without-save? Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 03:02:27 GMT References: In article , David L Miller wrote: > >Our assumption is that the caller of "pico -t" has a way to cancel the >edit/message external to pico. ^Q is not a good candidate because it is >the XOFF character and has special meaning over some communication >channels. Control/Q is the XON character, not XOFF. XOFF is Control/S. But both of these characters have special meaning over some communication channels. Dave C. Former techie -- -- David A. Cantor +1 203-444-7268 (203-444-RANT) 453 Bayonet St., #16 Internet: cantor@mv.mv.com New London, CT 06320 Foxwoods blackjack and craps dealer I work at and for Foxwoods, but do not speak for Foxwoods. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 17:02:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03673; Sat, 25 Jun 94 17:02:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07937; Sat, 25 Jun 94 16:57:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07931; Sat, 25 Jun 94 16:57:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHhLZ-00000DC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 16:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dwight@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Dwight Robert Stone) Subject: Encoding messages in pine Date: 23 Jun 1994 19:08:58 GMT Message-Id: <2ucmka$rjd@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In elm you can put an [encode] in your message and elm will ask you for an encryption key, and then the receiver must receive it in elm, and it will ask you for the decryption key when you access the message. Does pine have a comparable facility? Dwight Stone dwight@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu -- Dwight Stone dwight@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu GCS d--(+) -p+(---) c+(++) l u+ e++(*) m+ s !n h- f++ g+ w++(+++) t++ r+ y++ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 17:18:22 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03941; Sat, 25 Jun 94 17:18:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22394; Sat, 25 Jun 94 17:12:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22388; Sat, 25 Jun 94 17:12:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHhWv-00000JC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 16:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tipcat@wam.umd.edu (Frank Young) Subject: Re: Off-line composing Date: 25 Jun 1994 03:26:50 GMT Message-Id: <2ug85q$6jg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <2u97ok$1nqa@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> In article , Mike Garrett wrote: >>Can anyone tell me how to compose an ascii text file off-line and >>upload it via Pine? I've been answering while connected, but that is >>obviously not very satisfactory. > >Create the file offline with your fav editor e.g. emacs, then >read it in to pine with the ctrl-r command. I don't think, though I may be wrong, that this does the job that is wanted -- for I have been trying to do the same thing for some time. A fuller explnation, of my problem anyway: If I compose an ASCII messsage for e-mail on my computer at home -- using any pure ASCII editor, like TEDIT or GALAXY -- and I wish to send it directly through my internet connection to the recipient, I have no problem with it if I use the UNIX "mail" command. I simply put "mail recipient@place.place" on the first line, a filler for the "Subject:" line of the mail program on the second line; and then a . at the end. I then do an ASCII upload through ProComm+ -- and everything works smoothly. On he other hand, if I just compose the message itself, at home and in ASCII, and try to upload it into pine; then I get a raft of errors, most of which look like ANSI codes, though they probably are not. I must then cancel the message, exit PINE, upload the message as a file to my UNIX account, re-enter PINE, and then use the feature of which you have spoken. Isn't there any reasonable way to run the ASCII text, through the modem directly into PINE, and then send the message? -- Regards, Frank Young tipcat@wam.umd.edu 703-532-6284 6166 Leesburg Pike, Suite B-12, Falls Church, Virginia 22044-2343 "Videmus nunc per speculum in aenigmate... Nunc cognosco ex parte" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 18:21:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04815; Sat, 25 Jun 94 18:21:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08941; Sat, 25 Jun 94 18:15:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08935; Sat, 25 Jun 94 18:15:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHiVw-00000IC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 17:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Sort order in .pinerc, and rich headers Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 14:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2ucqp5$q86@chopin.udel.edu> The default headers will be fully configurable in Pine 3.90. To get reverse date sorting, set sort-key=date/reverse. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 23 Jun 1994, David Stabosz wrote: > > Two problems I am having with pine: > > Is there an option in my .pinerc where I can set rich headers to be the default. > So when I reply to or compose a message, rich headers will be on, and pressing > ^R will remove them. > > Is it possible to set the default sorting to be date and reversed? If I set > sort-key to date, then from the folder index do $,R I have the messages sorted > the way I would like them (most recent at the top). But the best I can do > now is either set sort-key=date, then do $,R from the index, or set > sort-key=reverse, then do $,D from the index. Am I missing something, > I tried sort-key = reverse,date but this doesn't work. > > > Thanks, > David E. Stabosz > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 19:05:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05380; Sat, 25 Jun 94 19:05:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23743; Sat, 25 Jun 94 19:00:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23737; Sat, 25 Jun 94 19:00:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHjEI-00000IC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 18:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nedim@actcom.co.il (Nedim Fresko) Subject: HELP: Weird biff phenomena Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 22:24:18 GMT Message-Id: Hi there, I have this very weird problem with biff which occurs only when I am using procmail. In what seems to be a completely random time, the notification for some regular mail message that I already received pops up again, as if I received the message again. This occurs without any logical pattern except that it is not observed when procmail is not in my .forward file. The only things I have in my .procmailrc are very simple: About two mailing lists directed to different mail folders according to a simple regexp. I'd appreciate it if someone gave me an idea as to what this means. Thanks in advance. -- Nedim Fresko e-mail: nedim@actcom.co.il ACTCOM - ACTive COMmunication Ltd. - Internet Services Haifa - Israel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 19:12:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05514; Sat, 25 Jun 94 19:12:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09625; Sat, 25 Jun 94 19:07:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09619; Sat, 25 Jun 94 19:07:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHjJ7-00000JC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 18:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: malcor@class.class.org (Dan Malcor-LA Times) Subject: Domain name fulfillment Date: 25 Jun 1994 23:51:25 GMT Message-Id: <2uiftt$fqq@news.cerf.net> I would like to keep the machine name out of the address fulfillment in pine. I have several machines in the same domain so as far as the user is concerned the addition of the machine name when pine fill out the address for a local user is confusing. Example (real too): Machine name: fowler Domain name: news.latimes.com When the user types: malcor Pine fill that out to: malcor@fowler.news.latimes.com I'd rather it filled out to: malcor@news.latimes.com I did some work on the .pinerc and pine.conf and if I set the domain to "news.latimes.com" it still found the machine name "fowler", but if I set it to "news.latimes.com " (Note: the space and the quotes are required). Then it did not find the machine name, but it also did not complete my name as: Daniel Malcor (just a bland and uninformative malcor@news.latimes.com). Is this something that you can rush into 3.90? ====================================================================== Dan Malcor | Los Angeles Times - Editorial Systems Internet: malcor@latimes.com | Systems Analyst / Programmer -- ====================================================================== Dan Malcor | Los Angeles Times - Editorial Systems Internet: malcor@class.org | Systems Analyst / Programmer From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 21:04:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07027; Sat, 25 Jun 94 21:04:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25301; Sat, 25 Jun 94 21:00:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25295; Sat, 25 Jun 94 21:00:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHl3N-00000DC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 20:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Marking files as answered Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 20:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2ud9kr$mlr@clarknet.clark.net> Yes, Pico will be upgraded along with Pine. Of course that does not have anything to do with "Marking files as answered"... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 24 Jun 1994, Chip Davis wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jun 1994 09:06:01 -0700 (PDT), David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: > > : Dare I say it? These features will be available in Pine 3.90. > > I'm not familiar with the packaging of Pine, but when you say a feature > will be in Pine 3.90, does that mean we'll be getting a new version of > Pico as well? It would be wonderful if Pine Compose and tin post > presented an identical editor environment. > > -- > -Chip Davis- chip@clark.net - Rexx Language Association - Team OS/2 > "It's tough to do a double-blind on Life." > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 21:13:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07204; Sat, 25 Jun 94 21:13:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11160; Sat, 25 Jun 94 21:10:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11154; Sat, 25 Jun 94 21:10:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHlD8-00000IC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 20:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: .sig allways at top Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 00:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2ufnc7$jot@cyberspace.com> In Pine 3.07 you needed to set "signature-at-bottom=yes" if I remember correctly... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 24 Jun 1994, Jack Valko wrote: > Jonathan Chen (jonc@pinnacle.co.nz) wrote: > : In <2u58hj$j2e@tahoma.cwu.edu> jirka@tahoma.cwu.edu (Ian Jirka) writes: > > : Modify ~/.pinerc : > : feature-list=signature-at-bottom > > I tried this with pine 3.07 and it doesn't work. Do I need 3.8x? > > Jack > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 21:50:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07648; Sat, 25 Jun 94 21:50:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25877; Sat, 25 Jun 94 21:45:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25871; Sat, 25 Jun 94 21:45:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHlnA-00000DC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 21:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: erdely@wam.umd.edu (Micos Express) Subject: Re: PINE enhancement request (fwd) Date: 24 Jun 1994 03:52:15 GMT Message-Id: <2udl9f$9g6@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: If I understand your request correctly, you need to put the variables into the global config file. For example in my pine.conf file at work, we have: INBOX=/var/mail/$LOGNAME Hope it helps. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Erdely - The Micos Express University of Maryland at College Park "Mother is the name for God in the lips and hearts of children." --Brandon Lee -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 22:00:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07792; Sat, 25 Jun 94 22:00:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11714; Sat, 25 Jun 94 21:55:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11708; Sat, 25 Jun 94 21:55:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHlyT-00000IC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 21:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dpoole@bud.peinet.pe.ca (Dale Poole) Subject: Automatic Extracting by Subject Field Date: 23 Jun 1994 22:48:04 -0400 Message-Id: <2ude0k$l0o@bud.peinet.pe.ca> Apologies if this has been covered before (is there a FAQ?). I've gleaned quite few nifty tips from this group, and I'm hoping someone will help with this one. I receive a load of USDA market reports, and other files via mail, for a non-Internet connected BBS which I manage. I'd like to set up a few Telix scripts to login into the account and download the files once they've been extracted from Pine. Is there a method to tell Pine how to extract a mail message, based on what's in the subject field? This wuld be very handy, as all the messages come Subject labelled with a 'code-number', which is what the BBS uses to find and then display the file to a user. Thanks for your help, and big pats on the back to the Pine developers, who in mymind have put together a reliable, freindly package! -------------------------------------- Dale Poole - Raven Information Systems dpoole@peinet.pe.ca -------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 22:05:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07899; Sat, 25 Jun 94 22:05:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26052; Sat, 25 Jun 94 22:00:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26046; Sat, 25 Jun 94 22:00:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHm1S-00000JC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 21:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simmdan@kenya.isu.edu (Daniel Simmons) Subject: Re: Port to HPUX, where are the mods? Date: 23 Jun 1994 22:00:42 -0600 Message-Id: <2udlpa$g2k@kenya.isu.edu> References: In article , David L Miller wrote: >Pine 3.89 includes an "hpp" port for HP/UX in the main distribution. Just >"build hpp" in the top level source directory... Unfortunately, though, the "hpp" port for HP/UX doesn't fix the problems pine has in dealing with HP terminals (mutant terminals that they are). I have about a 40k patch which fixes 99% of the problems with HP terminals. The remaining problems are basically ignorable and not really fixable without major reworking of the pine and pico I/O libraries, etc. My patch is for pine-3.87, but I expect that it could be adapted to 3.89 without too much trouble. Let me know if you want a copy. Danny -- Daniel Simmons electronic mail : simmdan@isu.edu Idaho State University voice mail : (208) 236-3199 Computer Center snail mail : Box 8037, Pocatello From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 23:04:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08806; Sat, 25 Jun 94 23:04:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12533; Sat, 25 Jun 94 23:00:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12527; Sat, 25 Jun 94 23:00:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHmy8-00000DC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 22:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsallen@rs6.tcs.tulane.edu (Jay Allen) Subject: Re: ^L Date: 22 Jun 1994 23:53:00 GMT Message-Id: <2uaiss$g7q@news.cs.tulane.edu> References: <1994Jun22.003034.17843@csc.canberra.edu.au> <2u98cs$f7i@netaxs.com> : Ogawa / Taro Stephen (ISE) (u934132@student.canberra.edu.au) wrote: : : How can Insert ^Ls in pine - Any way? : : Thanx, Taro. Use ^V and then ^L. ^V means "write the next command verbatim in the message." I believe this should work. _________________________________________________________________________ Jay Allen Texas-Ex '93 Tulane Medical School Southeastern Intercollegiate Sailing Association Executive Vice-President _________________________________________________________________________ --- Insanity - It's only a state of mind. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 25 23:14:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08947; Sat, 25 Jun 94 23:14:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26969; Sat, 25 Jun 94 23:10:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26963; Sat, 25 Jun 94 23:10:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHn8G-00000IC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 22:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: peterhe%albnyvms.BITNET@uwavm.u.washington.edu Subject: How to update inbox new mail without quitting PCPine Date: 26 Jun 1994 00:08:23 GMT Message-Id: <2uigtn$k9j@rebecca.albany.edu> Hi, all I'm using PC-Pine. I haven't found a way to update the new incoming message without quitting Pine and restarting it again. Eudora allows automatical checking new mail in x minutes. Does PC-Pine allows that? Also, is there way to tell Pine to leave a copy of newmail on the server? Thanks a lot in advance! peterhe@albnyvms.bitnet From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 26 00:05:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09698; Sun, 26 Jun 94 00:05:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13297; Sun, 26 Jun 94 00:00:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13291; Sun, 26 Jun 94 00:00:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHnrI-00000DC; Sat, 25 Jun 94 23:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: df@christa.unh.edu (Dan Ford) Subject: Re: Off-line composing Date: 25 Jun 1994 12:55:59 GMT Message-Id: <2uh9gv$8sg@mozz.unh.edu> References: <2u97ok$1nqa@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> <2ug85q$6jg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> In article <2ug85q$6jg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> tipcat@wam.umd.edu (Frank Young) writes: > >If I compose an ASCII messsage for e-mail on my computer at home -- using >any pure ASCII editor, like TEDIT or GALAXY -- and I wish to send it >directly through my internet connection to the recipient, I have no >problem with it if I use the UNIX "mail" command. I simply put "mail >recipient@place.place" on the first line, a filler for the "Subject:" >line of the mail program on the second line; and then a . at the >end. I then do an ASCII upload through ProComm+ -- and everything works >smoothly. > I just tried this and it worked to perfection. (Although not until I learned I had to add a line containing a period . at the end of the file before I could close it properly.) It is easier than my previous fixes, tho of course we aren't strictly speaking in this newsgroup any more! (And can't use the addressbook either.) Thanks, Frank. -- - Dan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 26 00:34:19 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10112; Sun, 26 Jun 94 00:34:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27933; Sun, 26 Jun 94 00:31:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27926; Sun, 26 Jun 94 00:31:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHoMQ-00000HC; Sun, 26 Jun 94 00:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl (0000-Admin(0000)) Subject: more .sigs Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 08:24:33 GMT Hi all, Since Pine Is No longer Elm, the feature of using different sigs for local and non-local mail is gone. I think this is silly (basically because I need it :) Did I overlook how to enable this feature or is it planned for new versions? Any comments? Greetings, Steef -------------- S.G. de Bruijn E-Mail: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl Twente University of Technology, Dept. of Computer Science Enschede The Netherlands Phone: Work: +53 894191 Home: +53 334812 -----------------------==== @@ ====----------------------- signature: file not found From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 26 02:44:38 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12760; Sun, 26 Jun 94 02:44:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15444; Sun, 26 Jun 94 02:39:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15438; Sun, 26 Jun 94 02:39:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHqKk-00000OC; Sun, 26 Jun 94 02:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ddic@u.washington.edu (Doug Dicharry) Subject: Re: Marking blocks Date: 26 Jun 1994 05:52:22 GMT Message-Id: <2uj52m$5kr@news.u.washington.edu> References: <2uhp00$bbs@news1.digex.net> <2ui3fn$rji@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> <2ui69b$mo5@Ra.MsState.Edu> <2ui791$e4l@news1.digex.net> In article <2ui791$e4l@news1.digex.net>, Gabe Goldberg wrote: >Thanks -- Ctrl ^ and CtrlShift ^ don't work, no matter how many times I >press them. Ctrl ^ does nothing; CtrlShift ^ just adds a "V" where the >cursor is. Moving the cursor then doesn't mark a block, and finally >pressing Ctrl K just deletes the line where the cursor is, as it does >normally. But the variety of keystrokes described sounds like it's a >disagreeme I have had the very same problem. I got so frustrated with it I gave up pico and took up "vi" for my text editing. Actually, I'm a lot happier with it. I am still able to use pine for mailing, but I find vi very versatile for editing newsgroup responses such as this one. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Doug Dicharry Bellevue, WA ddic@u.washington.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 26 02:52:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12935; Sun, 26 Jun 94 02:52:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29837; Sun, 26 Jun 94 02:49:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29831; Sun, 26 Jun 94 02:49:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHqVB-00000JC; Sun, 26 Jun 94 02:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gabe@access1.digex.net (Gabe Goldberg) Subject: Marking blocks Date: 25 Jun 1994 17:20:00 GMT Message-Id: <2uhp00$bbs@news1.digex.net> I'd appreciate seeing the key-by-key sequence to mark text blocks in Pine. I've RTFM and experimented, but I can't get ^K to delete more than one line at a time. Even worse, it smirks at me occasionally, telling me that I *could* mark blocks to be more efficient. ----- Gabriel Goldberg, Computers and Publishing, Inc. 13382 Brookfield Court, Chantilly, VA 22021-2618 Voice: (703) 968-5738 FAX: (703) 502-0673 Internet: gabe@access.digex.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 26 04:40:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15375; Sun, 26 Jun 94 04:40:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17175; Sun, 26 Jun 94 04:33:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17169; Sun, 26 Jun 94 04:33:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHs8Q-00000JC; Sun, 26 Jun 94 04:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Marking blocks Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 01:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2ui791$e4l@news1.digex.net> Try using "ESC ESC ^" as a work-around. That should work until you can figure out what is eating the ^^. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 25 Jun 1994, Gabe Goldberg wrote: > Thanks -- Ctrl ^ and CtrlShift ^ don't work, no matter how many times I > press them. Ctrl ^ does nothing; CtrlShift ^ just adds a "V" where the > cursor is. Moving the cursor then doesn't mark a block, and finally > pressing Ctrl K just deletes the line where the cursor is, as it does > normally. But the variety of keystrokes described sounds like it's a > disagreement between my PC software, my Unix host, and Pine, regarding > the meaning of certain keystrokes. I'll post the problem in the newsgroup > for my Unix host, see if anyone local has any ideas. > > ----- > Gabriel Goldberg, Computers and Publishing, Inc. > 13382 Brookfield Court, Chantilly, VA 22021-2618 > Voice: (703) 968-5738 FAX: (703) 502-0673 Internet: gabe@access.digex.net > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 26 05:10:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15962; Sun, 26 Jun 94 05:10:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01954; Sun, 26 Jun 94 05:03:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01948; Sun, 26 Jun 94 05:03:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHsZE-00000IC; Sun, 26 Jun 94 04:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stephenw@engr.mun.ca (stephen wall) Subject: Re: Marking blocks Date: 25 Jun 1994 20:19:03 GMT Message-Id: <2ui3fn$rji@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> References: <2uhp00$bbs@news1.digex.net> gabe@access1.digex.net (Gabe Goldberg) writes: >I'd appreciate seeing the key-by-key sequence to mark text blocks in Pine. >I've RTFM and experimented, but I can't get ^K to delete more than one line >at a time. Even worse, it smirks at me occasionally, telling me that I >*could* mark blocks to be more efficient. >----- >Gabriel Goldberg, Computers and Publishing, Inc. >13382 Brookfield Court, Chantilly, VA 22021-2618 >Voice: (703) 968-5738 FAX: (703) 502-0673 Internet: gabe@access.digex.net The key sequence is CTRL ^ - yes, ^^. On a terminal I log in on at work, I have to use shift-ctrl-^.. I haven't bothered to fool around with the key definitions...so I have to use shift to get the system to recognise the ^. Then just cursor down and you should see the marked text go into reverse video. CTRL k and it's gone. Steve -- "You have to forget about what other people say, when you're supposed to die, or when you're supposed to be loving. You have to forget about all these things. You have to go on and be crazy. Craziness is like heaven." --------------------------------Jimi Hendrix-------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 26 05:40:27 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16521; Sun, 26 Jun 94 05:40:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17971; Sun, 26 Jun 94 05:34:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17965; Sun, 26 Jun 94 05:34:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHt1q-00000IC; Sun, 26 Jun 94 05:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gabe@access1.digex.net (Gabe Goldberg) Subject: Re: Marking blocks Date: 25 Jun 1994 21:23:45 GMT Message-Id: <2ui791$e4l@news1.digex.net> References: <2uhp00$bbs@news1.digex.net> <2ui3fn$rji@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> <2ui69b$mo5@Ra.MsState.Edu> Thanks -- Ctrl ^ and CtrlShift ^ don't work, no matter how many times I press them. Ctrl ^ does nothing; CtrlShift ^ just adds a "V" where the cursor is. Moving the cursor then doesn't mark a block, and finally pressing Ctrl K just deletes the line where the cursor is, as it does normally. But the variety of keystrokes described sounds like it's a disagreement between my PC software, my Unix host, and Pine, regarding the meaning of certain keystrokes. I'll post the problem in the newsgroup for my Unix host, see if anyone local has any ideas. ----- Gabriel Goldberg, Computers and Publishing, Inc. 13382 Brookfield Court, Chantilly, VA 22021-2618 Voice: (703) 968-5738 FAX: (703) 502-0673 Internet: gabe@access.digex.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 26 07:07:58 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17697; Sun, 26 Jun 94 07:07:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03488; Sun, 26 Jun 94 07:04:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03482; Sun, 26 Jun 94 07:04:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHuRN-00000HC; Sun, 26 Jun 94 06:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gabe@access1.digex.net (Gabe Goldberg) Subject: Re: Marking blocks Date: 26 Jun 1994 13:25:52 GMT Message-Id: <2ujvl0$p9o@news1.digex.net> References: David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : Try using "ESC ESC ^" as a work-around. That should work until you can : figure out what is eating the ^^. Bingo! That works! Thanks! Just to spell it out for others reading this, that's ESC ESC Shift/6. ----- Gabriel Goldberg, Computers and Publishing, Inc. 13382 Brookfield Court, Chantilly, VA 22021-2618 Voice: (703) 968-5738 FAX: (703) 502-0673 Internet: gabe@access.digex.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 26 09:07:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19373; Sun, 26 Jun 94 09:07:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20503; Sun, 26 Jun 94 08:58:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20497; Sun, 26 Jun 94 08:58:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHwIA-00000QC; Sun, 26 Jun 94 08:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guru@soochak (guru-Evaluation Account) Subject: Evaluation-1: batches/timings Message-Id: <1994Jun26.091853.9793@ncst.ernet.in> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 09:18:53 GMT From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 26 09:51:37 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20191; Sun, 26 Jun 94 09:51:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05545; Sun, 26 Jun 94 09:43:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05539; Sun, 26 Jun 94 09:43:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHwzN-00000IC; Sun, 26 Jun 94 09:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rivaud@rain.org (L. E. de Rivaud) Subject: Re: HELP! Filtering incoming mail Date: 26 Jun 1994 08:46:21 -0700 Message-Id: <2uk7sd$r05@rain.org> References: The Road Warrior (dqle@netcom.com) wrote: > Please email me if you have any advice. HEY PLEASE POST answers / responses too because I want to know how to do this! I have read thru the .pinerc file and the section on folders is unclear to me. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 26 11:28:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22888; Sun, 26 Jun 94 11:28:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22814; Sun, 26 Jun 94 11:21:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22806; Sun, 26 Jun 94 11:21:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHyQV-00000OC; Sun, 26 Jun 94 10:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: HELP! Filtering incoming mail Date: 26 Jun 1994 10:39:17 -0700 Message-Id: <2ukeg5$7be@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: In article , The Road Warrior wrote: :I subscribe to a mail list which generates 20-30 messages a day. I want :to have these messages go into a special folder, other than my INBOX. :This is so I can have my regular incoming email separate from the stuff :generated by the mail list. : :How do I set this up? I've looked thru the help functions of pine and :read the .pinerc file, but can't seem to figure this out. Is it even :possible to set up multiple incoming folders in pine? : Pine doesn't have such filtering functions itself, but on UNIX systems that use sendmail as the mail transport agent there are three programs you can use to get this effect: filter, which is part of the Elm distribution, procmail, and deliver. Here's how to use deliver to filter incoming mail: First of all you'll need to get deliver installed on your system, if it's not already. It's usually installed setuid root, so that will take cooperation from your system administrator. (Though the installation notes say that you can install it in a personal directory and do without root-setuidness.) The source code to deliver is available from any major ftp archive; use archie to find one near you. Deliver should compile and run on most UNIX systems without any problems. Once deliver is installed, say in /usr/local/bin/deliver, then you tell sendmail to pass all incoming mail through deliver by putting "|/usr/local/bin/deliver your-username" into your .forward file in your home directory. (The quotes are needed, and don't forget to add your user name as an argument or sendmail may do unintuitive and unpopular things to your mail.) Now what deliver does with your mail depends on the the rules inside a file called .deliver in your home directory. Here's (a shortened version of) my .deliver file: #!/bin/sh user="$1" TO=`header -f To -f CC $HEADER` case "$TO" in *clarissa*) echo $user:mail/clarissa;; esac case "$TO" in *usenet*) echo $user:mail/news; exit;; esac # Default case echo $user It's a Bourne shell script that looks at the 'To:' (or 'Cc:') line in the header of the incoming mail message. If the message came from the Clarissa Explains it All mailing list, then the 'To:' line says To: clarissa@tcp.com and that matches the '*clarissa*' pattern in the first case statement. So that message is put in my clarissa folder. If the message came from our Usenet software, then the 'To:' line says To: usenet and that matches the '*usenet*' pattern in the second case statement. So that message goes to my news folder. The last line in the .deliver file sends a copy of everything to my inbox, so anything else besides the Clarissa or news mail goes to my inbox as usual, and a copy of the Clarissa mail goes to my inbox too. That way I can see everything in one place, and still have a copy put in the right folder automatically. (Since the news mail is usually uninteresting I bypass the copy to my inbox with the 'exit' command at the end of that case statement.) Deliver can do much more but this should give you an idea of how it can be used to sort incoming mail. The .deliver file itself doesn't have to be a Bourne shell script; anything that has the effect of writing the user name or a file pathname to standard output would do. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 26 11:34:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23061; Sun, 26 Jun 94 11:34:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07211; Sun, 26 Jun 94 11:27:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07205; Sun, 26 Jun 94 11:27:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHyXW-00000IC; Sun, 26 Jun 94 11:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Kevin J. Sinclair" Subject: KILL in Pine? Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 16:44:35 GMT How do you setup a KILL file in Pine to block email from people you don't want to hear from? I did 'man Pine' to check the manual and searched on 'kill' and found nothing. Is this possible? kevin kjs@rahul.net -- Kevin { Kevin J. Sinclair: kjs@rahul.net } From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 26 11:36:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23144; Sun, 26 Jun 94 11:36:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22958; Sun, 26 Jun 94 11:30:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22952; Sun, 26 Jun 94 11:30:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHyba-00000PC; Sun, 26 Jun 94 11:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gabe@access2.digex.net (Gabe Goldberg) Subject: Address list Date: 26 Jun 1994 17:59:58 GMT Message-Id: <2ukfmu$rh7@news1.digex.net> Is it possible to export or download my Pine address list into a PC file? Is it possible to import or upload or update the list from a PC file? I can *print* the list from Pine with no difficulty, but I'd like to be able to do some list manipulation on my PC. ----- Gabriel Goldberg, Computers and Publishing, Inc. 13382 Brookfield Court, Chantilly, VA 22021-2618 Voice: (703) 968-5738 FAX: (703) 502-0673 Internet: gabe@access.digex.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 26 12:28:14 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24469; Sun, 26 Jun 94 12:28:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08158; Sun, 26 Jun 94 12:24:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08152; Sun, 26 Jun 94 12:24:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHzUC-00000HC; Sun, 26 Jun 94 12:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Address list Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 11:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2ukfmu$rh7@news1.digex.net> Your addressbook is stored in a plain text file called ".addressbook" (no quotes). The format should be self-explanatory, just watch out for the TABs between columns... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 26 Jun 1994, Gabe Goldberg wrote: > Is it possible to export or download my Pine address list into a PC file? > > Is it possible to import or upload or update the list from a PC file? > > I can *print* the list from Pine with no difficulty, but I'd like to be > able to do some list manipulation on my PC. > > ----- > Gabriel Goldberg, Computers and Publishing, Inc. > 13382 Brookfield Court, Chantilly, VA 22021-2618 > Voice: (703) 968-5738 FAX: (703) 502-0673 Internet: gabe@access.digex.net > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 26 12:31:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24555; Sun, 26 Jun 94 12:31:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23901; Sun, 26 Jun 94 12:27:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23895; Sun, 26 Jun 94 12:27:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qHzWI-00000IC; Sun, 26 Jun 94 12:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: KILL in Pine? Date: 26 Jun 1994 11:43:14 -0700 Message-Id: <2uki82$7fa@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: In article , Kevin J. Sinclair wrote: :How do you setup a KILL file in Pine to block email from people you don't :want to hear from? I did 'man Pine' to check the manual and searched on :'kill' and found nothing. Is this possible? : This is another function of mail filtering. I just posted a message about using deliver to filter incoming mail; to use deliver to silently ignore all incoming mail from 'luser', you would use a .deliver file something like #!/bin/sh user="$1" FROM=`header -f From $HEADER` case "$FROM" in luser*) echo DROP; exit;; esac # Default case echo $user From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 26 13:08:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25281; Sun, 26 Jun 94 13:08:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24439; Sun, 26 Jun 94 13:05:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from vorlon.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24433; Sun, 26 Jun 94 13:05:05 -0700 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 15:13:33 +0100 From: "Robert A. Hayden" Reply-To: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Re: ^L To: Jay Allen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2uaiss$g7q@news.cs.tulane.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On 22 Jun 1994, Jay Allen wrote: > Use ^V and then ^L. ^V means "write the next command verbatim in the > message." I believe this should work. I have ^V as page down.... ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@vorlon.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or Blue Earth County -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 26 17:24:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01650; Sun, 26 Jun 94 17:24:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12675; Sun, 26 Jun 94 17:18:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12669; Sun, 26 Jun 94 17:18:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qI437-00000HC; Sun, 26 Jun 94 16:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: Pine Execution in Shell Script? Date: 26 Jun 1994 16:26:39 -0700 Message-Id: <2ul2rf$7qm@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: In article , Steve Lowe wrote: : :Is it possible to use pine within a shell script to deliver mail messages? Doesn't seem to be, in 3.89: pine jdavis@cs.arizona.edu < /dev/null generates Can't access terminal or input is not a terminal. Redirection of standard input is not allowed. For example "pine < file" doesn't work. So it looks like pine is doing isatty(0) (or its moral equivalent) on startup. (Maybe that will change in the all singing, all dancing pine 3.90!) You could try to fake pine out by running it under pty or expect, but /usr/ucb/mail would probably be faster in a shell script anyway. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 26 17:50:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02114; Sun, 26 Jun 94 17:50:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28831; Sun, 26 Jun 94 17:46:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28825; Sun, 26 Jun 94 17:46:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qI4SU-00000HC; Sun, 26 Jun 94 17:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ddic@u.washington.edu (Doug Dicharry) Subject: Re: Marking blocks Date: 27 Jun 1994 00:14:58 GMT Message-Id: <2ul5m2$ja2@news.u.washington.edu> References: <2ujvl0$p9o@news1.digex.net> In article <2ujvl0$p9o@news1.digex.net>, Gabe Goldberg wrote: >David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: > >: Try using "ESC ESC ^" as a work-around. That should work until you can >: figure out what is eating the ^^. > >Bingo! That works! Thanks! > >Just to spell it out for others reading this, that's ESC ESC Shift/6. > I can't believe it. It works here, too. A second thanks! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Doug Dicharry Bellevue, WA ddic@u.washington.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 26 19:34:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03706; Sun, 26 Jun 94 19:34:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14440; Sun, 26 Jun 94 19:31:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14434; Sun, 26 Jun 94 19:31:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qI69W-00000HC; Sun, 26 Jun 94 19:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: larryb@bga.com (Larry Buickel) Subject: Enhancement req: Take in From: addresses Date: 27 Jun 1994 02:04:13 GMT Message-Id: <2ulc2t$7a@giga.bga.com> One enhancement that I would find useful would be to take the To: addresses into the addressbook like I use (T) to take in the From: address. Ideally, I would be able to add each address individually, but more important (to me) would be the ability to add them all at once into a mailing list. Thanks .... -- *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Larry L. Buickel | I'm a hopeless chauvinist! Every time I begin to larryb@bga.com | explore my feminine side, I always stop and | cop a feel ... *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= Will write DCE apps for food =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 26 19:53:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03977; Sun, 26 Jun 94 19:53:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00560; Sun, 26 Jun 94 19:49:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00554; Sun, 26 Jun 94 19:49:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qI6Qt-00000JC; Sun, 26 Jun 94 19:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: u934132@student.canberra.edu.au (Ogawa / Taro Stephen (ISE)) Subject: ^L Message-Id: <1994Jun22.003034.17843@csc.canberra.edu.au> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 94 00:30:34 GMT How can Insert ^Ls in pine - Any way? Thanx, Taro. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 26 19:57:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04042; Sun, 26 Jun 94 19:57:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14743; Sun, 26 Jun 94 19:54:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14737; Sun, 26 Jun 94 19:54:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qI6Ug-00000HC; Sun, 26 Jun 94 19:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: weave@hopi.dtcc.edu (Ken Weaverling) Subject: PCPINE/LWP/Winsock: It all works together! Date: 21 Jun 1994 20:35:53 -0400 Message-Id: <2u8119$ggk@hopi.dtcc.edu> I'm totally confused! My tcp/ip stack is Novell's Lan Workplace for DOS, loaded in when DOS boots. I am running Novell's Winsock which goes with LWP. I scarfed pine_n.zip, PC Pine's support for LWP. I put it all together, and ran PC Pine from Windows, and expected it to blow up, or at least some net connections to drop when I ran PC Pine in a DOS box. But surprise, it all works quite well together and I am confused! The way I see it laid out is like this (where #1, #2, #n are winsock apps) #1 #2 #n \ | / PINE_N.EXE (with background box checked) WINSOCK / \ / TCPIP.EXE (LWP driver) | ODI | NIC So, I am assuming LWP multiplexes incoming net messages at the IP level and knows to route imap packets to PINE (running in a dos box) and others to Winsock as needed. (what is *really* neat is Novell support is hooked to the side of ODI and everything STILL works since *it* routes based on frame type (ethernet_ii vs ethernet_802.3)!!!!) If this is true, it is pretty darn neat. Now if I could somehow shoehorn Windows for Workgroups support in here, I'd be REAL happy!!!! (Hey, a usenet first. I am not starting a thread asking a question. Just thought someone contemplating the above scenario might be interested...) -- Ken Weaverling weave@dtcc.edu |*| My opinions .NEQ. college's position From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 26 21:23:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05221; Sun, 26 Jun 94 21:23:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01672; Sun, 26 Jun 94 21:19:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01666; Sun, 26 Jun 94 21:19:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qI7oP-00000HC; Sun, 26 Jun 94 20:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: valko@cyberspace.com (Jack Valko) Subject: Re: .sig allways at top Date: 26 Jun 1994 20:22:33 -0700 Message-Id: <2ulglp$fi3@cyberspace.com> References: Nope. This doesn't work either ... Jack David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : In Pine 3.07 you needed to set "signature-at-bottom=yes" if I remember : correctly... : On 24 Jun 1994, Jack Valko wrote: : > I tried this with pine 3.07 and it doesn't work. Do I need 3.8x? : > : > Jack : > : > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 26 22:27:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06288; Sun, 26 Jun 94 22:27:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16697; Sun, 26 Jun 94 22:19:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16691; Sun, 26 Jun 94 22:19:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qI8lc-00000MC; Sun, 26 Jun 94 21:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: .sig allways at top Date: 27 Jun 1994 04:56:33 GMT Message-Id: <2ulm61$3e5@news.ysu.edu> References: <2ulglp$fi3@cyberspace.com> In a previous article, valko@cyberspace.com (Jack Valko) says: >Nope. This doesn't work either ... >David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: >: In Pine 3.07 you needed to set "signature-at-bottom=yes" if I remember Try... old-style-reply=yes -- Barry Bouwsma, in Michigan, wishes he were back biking eastern Europe MIME mail to , ASCII text to Unemployable System Cracker and Unix Administrator, seeking work, food, warmth, companionship, free airline tickets, and lots of money From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 27 01:34:57 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10035; Mon, 27 Jun 94 01:34:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05134; Mon, 27 Jun 94 01:29:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05120; Mon, 27 Jun 94 01:29:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIBjo-00000PC; Mon, 27 Jun 94 01:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsallen@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (Jay Allen) Subject: Suspend during Pine Date: 22 Jun 1994 00:54:44 GMT Message-Id: <2u824k$iog@news.cs.tulane.edu> For some reason, I can't suspend all of the time in PINE. I have suspend-enabled by the old-growth setting. I have been able to do it in the past. Now it says it doesn't recognize the command. Any ideas? -- _________________________________________________________________________ Jay Allen Texas-Ex '93 Tulane Medical School Southeastern Intercollegiate Sailing Association Executive Vice-President _________________________________________________________________________ --- Sailing is not a life and death issue --- It's much more important than --- that ! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 27 01:35:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10063; Mon, 27 Jun 94 01:35:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19494; Mon, 27 Jun 94 01:29:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19488; Mon, 27 Jun 94 01:29:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIBjW-00000OC; Mon, 27 Jun 94 01:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsallen@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (Jay Allen) Subject: Re: Deleting an Empty Folder Date: 22 Jun 1994 00:50:48 GMT Message-Id: <2u81t8$iog@news.cs.tulane.edu> References: <2u7h6h$jdc@crl.crl.com> Steve Zimmerman wrote: : Once you empty a folder of its contents, how do you delete that folder? : Steve Zimmerman : Scottsdale, AZ Umm, get to the folder list and press 'd'. Look at the command line at the bottom. _________________________________________________________________________ Jay Allen Texas-Ex '93 Tulane Medical School Southeastern Intercollegiate Sailing Association Executive Vice-President _________________________________________________________________________ --- Sailing is not a life and death issue --- It's much more important than --- that ! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 27 02:48:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11372; Mon, 27 Jun 94 02:48:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06096; Mon, 27 Jun 94 02:41:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06090; Mon, 27 Jun 94 02:41:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qICrq-00000FC; Mon, 27 Jun 94 02:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gjfec@westminster.ac.uk (gjfec) Subject: Getting files from the disc into pine Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 09:11:01 GMT I have just one question that I would like to pose to the Pine group. Is it at all possible to get a file from one of my discs and then put it in to the pine editor and then post it on ? Please would you explain in really simple english as iam stupid ! Gjfec@westminster.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 27 04:11:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13580; Mon, 27 Jun 94 04:11:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21935; Mon, 27 Jun 94 04:05:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21921; Mon, 27 Jun 94 04:05:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIE9p-00000FC; Mon, 27 Jun 94 03:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pettit@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Elsie Pettit ) Subject: UNIX MAIL TO PINE? Date: 22 Jun 1994 16:07:03 GMT Message-Id: <2u9nj7$5pj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Can anyone tell me how to transfer a document from Unix's mailbox to Pine's folders? TIA -- Elsie Pettit pettit@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu "There are no answers, only cross references" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 27 05:57:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15591; Mon, 27 Jun 94 05:57:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08677; Mon, 27 Jun 94 05:41:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08671; Mon, 27 Jun 94 05:41:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIFhC-00000YC; Mon, 27 Jun 94 05:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu (Randy Zagar) Subject: Solution to folder-lock problem!! (Code included) Date: 27 Jun 1994 12:05:55 GMT Message-Id: <2umfb3$j7g@news.udel.edu> Last week I wrote about a problem I was having with my IMAPD clients. They'd try to open a folder lock in /tmp and would fail. Then the clients would only be able to open the INBOX as read-only. The problem was due to a bug in the non-ANSI source of the imap-3.3 distribution. The temporary files that imapd was creating had permissions of 000 instead of 666. The following modification fixes that problem. Many thanks to Mark Crispin for providing the new code!!! -Randy ________________________________________________________________________ __ / \ | Randy Zagar | Voice: 302/831-1130 | | College of Marine Studies | FAX: 302/831-6838 | | University of Delaware | Internet: zagar@Chester.CMS.UDel.Edu | | Newark, DE 19711 | Compu$erve: 73072,1413 | |----------------------------------------------------------------------- ---| | PGP Key available on request, or by 'finger'. | \_______________________________________________________________________ ___/ File: imap-3.3/non-ANSI/c-client/mail.c Modification: New function mail_parameters() /* BEGIN CODE */ void *mail_parameters (stream,function,value) MAILSTREAM *stream; long function; void *value; { void *ret = NIL; DRIVER *d = maildrivers; /* if have a stream, do it for that stream */ if (stream && stream->dtb) return(*stream->dtb->parameters)(function,value); else do if (ret = (d->parameters) (function,value)) return ret; while (d = d->next); /* until at the end */ return ret; } /* END CODE */ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 27 06:34:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16169; Mon, 27 Jun 94 06:34:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24057; Mon, 27 Jun 94 06:28:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24051; Mon, 27 Jun 94 06:28:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIGNx-00000HC; Mon, 27 Jun 94 06:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: danielb@jolt.mpx.com.au (Daniel Ben-Sefer) Subject: Re: Marking blocks Date: 27 Jun 1994 12:36:32 GMT Message-Id: <2umh4g$2e8@inferno.mpx.com.au> References: <2uhp00$bbs@news1.digex.net> <2ui3fn$rji@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> <2ui69b$mo5@Ra.MsState.Edu> <2ui791$e4l@news1.digex.net> <2uj52m$5kr@news.u.washington.edu> Doug Dicharry (ddic@u.washington.edu) wrote: : I have had the very same problem. I got so frustrated with it : I gave up pico and took up "vi" for my text editing. Actually, : I'm a lot happier with it. I am still able to use pine for mailing, : but I find vi very versatile for editing newsgroup responses such as this one. vi???? ugh ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Ben-Sefer danielb@jolt.mpx.com.au Happiness is like a rainbow.... Whenever you get to the place you thought it was, it isnt there any more... it has moved away. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 27 08:19:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18269; Mon, 27 Jun 94 08:19:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10519; Mon, 27 Jun 94 07:58:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10513; Mon, 27 Jun 94 07:58:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIHkC-00000FC; Mon, 27 Jun 94 07:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mark@vsfl.demon.co.uk (Mark Statham) Subject: Re: HELP! Filtering incoming mail References: Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 13:35:47 +0000 Message-Id: <772724147snz@vsfl.demon.co.uk> In article dqle@netcom.com "The Road Warrior" writes: >I subscribe to a mail list which generates 20-30 messages a day. I want >to have these messages go into a special folder, other than my INBOX. >This is so I can have my regular incoming email separate from the stuff >generated by the mail list. > >Please email me if you have any advice. I quite happily use procmail to filter out my various message from mailing lists and place them in multiple inbox or folders. You can get procmail-3.02 from (or ask archie): ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de:/pub/unix/procmail.tar.gz It's very powerfull and pretty easy to use for simple things like redirecting mail from mailing lists to new folders for use in PINE, to set up the folders in Pine just read .pinerc file and it pretty easy to follow just setup the incoming foler with a label(optional) and the path and when you run pine it will give you a choice of inbox's to read, fun fun fun. Good Luck Mark -- =============================================================================== Mark Jonathan Statham mark@vsfl.demon.co.uk (WORK) Underpaid/Overworked Placement Student statham@bmth.ac.uk (UNI) National & Provincial Building Society "You've done what with my core!!" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 27 09:52:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21988; Mon, 27 Jun 94 09:52:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12885; Mon, 27 Jun 94 09:43:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12879; Mon, 27 Jun 94 09:43:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIJRn-00000DC; Mon, 27 Jun 94 09:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: davida@macbeth.umd.edu (David Arnold) Subject: Help with return addressing Date: 27 Jun 1994 11:39:37 -0400 Message-Id: <2umrrp$hp1@macbeth.umd.edu> Please forgive me if this is a over-hashed topic, or if it's covered in a FAQ someplace. (Pointers to any FAQs are appreciated.) We have users who wish to send mail with Pine which appears to come from a different system. For example, user has accounts on systems Sys1, Sys2 and Sys3; where Sys3 is the "official" place to send mail to (as advertised in campus records), but Sys1 is the environment the user wishes to use (with Pine). Is there any way for the user to send mail from Sys1 but have it appear to come from Sys3, and have standard replies go to Sys3? I was able to get most of the way there by messing with the "user-domain" variable in the ~/.pinerc. This gives Sys3 as the "From" system, but still uses the local userid. The userids between the two systems don't match, so if recipients try to reply to: Sys1-userid@Sys3 they'll get a "no such userid" bounce back. I've tried tweaking the shell "$user" and environment "USER" variables, but Pine grabs the userid from elsewhere. Can anyone tell me if it can be done, and if so, how? Thanks, David Arnold (301)405-7636 Inet: davida@umd5.umd.edu Consultant, CSC Bitnet: davida%umd5.umd.edu@cunyvm University of Maryland UUCP: uunet!umd5.umd.edu!davida College Park, MD 20742 NeXTmail: davida@anagram.umd.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 27 10:38:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23890; Mon, 27 Jun 94 10:38:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29162; Mon, 27 Jun 94 10:31:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29156; Mon, 27 Jun 94 10:31:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIKBr-00000DC; Mon, 27 Jun 94 10:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kotla@CTC.COM (Srinivas Kotla) Subject: Public address books - RFI Date: 27 Jun 1994 16:14:05 GMT Message-Id: <2umtsd$9va@server1.ctc.com> Hi all, Excuse me if this was discussed before. I was wondering if there is any scheme to maintain public address lists such that all the unix users at our site can look up local addresses? PC mail systems provide that feature so that people dont have to remember/know email addresses. Please post or send responses to kotla@ctc.com. Thanks. -- So long.... Srinivas Kotla. ______________________________ ________________________ _____________________ | __| _ |_ _| \ | |_ _| | |/ | |_ _| | | | Email: kotla@ctc.com |__ | ___|_||_| |\ \| |_||_| | <| | | || | |__| = | Concurrent Tech. Corp |____|___\_|____|_|_\___|____| |_|\_|___|_||_|____|_|_| Phone: (814) 269-2725 ----- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, BEGIN IT - Goethe -------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 27 10:48:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24436; Mon, 27 Jun 94 10:48:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14389; Mon, 27 Jun 94 10:43:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14383; Mon, 27 Jun 94 10:43:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIKNS-00000FC; Mon, 27 Jun 94 10:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kelly@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (Kelly Garner) Subject: Re: .sig allways at top Date: 27 Jun 1994 16:22:14 GMT Message-Id: <2umubm$rcq@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <2ulglp$fi3@cyberspace.com> In article <2ulglp$fi3@cyberspace.com>, Jack Valko wrote: >Nope. This doesn't work either ... It didn't work for me. We have Pine version 3.89, and the .pinerc files indicate that one can manipulate them to their heart's extent. Hrm. Now that I know I could possibly do this, I am annoyed that it doesn't work! -- Cheers, Kelly From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 27 13:21:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00739; Mon, 27 Jun 94 13:21:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18303; Mon, 27 Jun 94 13:14:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18295; Mon, 27 Jun 94 13:14:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIMhq-00000HC; Mon, 27 Jun 94 12:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cschles@glue.umd.edu (Chris Schlesiger) Subject: Hooks into pager Date: 27 Jun 1994 17:48:25 GMT Message-Id: <2un3d9$t59@mojo.eng.umd.edu> I was looking for a way to hook into the pager that pine uses when reading a received message. I couldn't find anything offhand. Or I missed something really obvious. A lot of mailers will allow you to specify your own pager so you can customize it. Which I would like to do. It would be a simple way to hook in a decryption program to read encoded messages that you received. Thanks in advance CDRS From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 27 14:12:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02384; Mon, 27 Jun 94 14:12:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19424; Mon, 27 Jun 94 14:08:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19418; Mon, 27 Jun 94 14:08:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qINYc-00000DC; Mon, 27 Jun 94 13:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Adding headers to mail Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 11:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine 3.90 will allow you to add custom headers. It should be available in a few weeks. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 25 Jun 1994, Moshe Newman wrote: > How do I add my own headers to outgoing email? Things like Reply-To: > or Return-Receipt-To: > > Ideally I'd like to set them as defaults for all mail, second-best > I'd like to include them every time I send mail. > > In elm this is done thru the o)ptions menu, but I can't figure how to do > it in pine. > > Thanks, > Morris > ohr@actcom.co.il > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 27 14:32:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02988; Mon, 27 Jun 94 14:32:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04627; Mon, 27 Jun 94 14:23:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04621; Mon, 27 Jun 94 14:23:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qINoJ-00000FC; Mon, 27 Jun 94 14:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: How to update inbox new mail without quitting PCPine Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 11:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2uigtn$k9j@rebecca.albany.edu> Pine 3.89 will check for incoming mail every 2.5 minutes. Pine normally does leave mail in place unless you tell it to do otherwise... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 26 Jun 1994 peterhe@albnyvms.bitnet wrote: > Hi, all > > I'm using PC-Pine. I haven't found a way to update the new incoming > message without quitting Pine and restarting it again. Eudora allows > automatical checking new mail in x minutes. Does PC-Pine allows that? > > Also, is there way to tell Pine to leave a copy of newmail on the server? > > Thanks a lot in advance! > > peterhe@albnyvms.bitnet > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 27 14:34:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03046; Mon, 27 Jun 94 14:34:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19846; Mon, 27 Jun 94 14:28:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19840; Mon, 27 Jun 94 14:28:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qINsp-00000HC; Mon, 27 Jun 94 14:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bcreedy@amy.cs.uoguelph.ca () Subject: Multiple recipients addresses showing in the header Date: 27 Jun 1994 18:59:09 GMT Message-Id: <2un7ht$7r3@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> Is there a way I can send mail to a distribution list (alias) and not have all the recipients show in the header of the recieved mail? Any help will be appreciated. Bob ============================================================================= Bob Creedy bcreedy@amy.cs.uoguelph.ca Computing & Communications Services University of Guelph Guelph, Ontario, Canada ============================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 27 15:22:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04683; Mon, 27 Jun 94 15:22:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05770; Mon, 27 Jun 94 15:13:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05762; Mon, 27 Jun 94 15:13:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIOY4-00000FC; Mon, 27 Jun 94 14:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bkolstad@uoguelph.ca (Big Brother) Subject: Re: Multiple recipients addresses showing in the header Date: 27 Jun 1994 19:35:52 GMT Message-Id: <2un9mo$90r@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <2un7ht$7r3@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> bcreedy@amy.cs.uoguelph.ca had this to say ... >Is there a way I can send mail to a distribution list (alias) and not have all >the recipients show in the header of the recieved mail? Put the distribution list in the 'bcc' (blind carbon copy) line. You can get to 'bcc' by type Ctrl R while in the header. None of the recipients will see who it went to. -- -- (__) Brad Kolstad (oo) U. Of Guelph /-------\/ / | || * ||----|| ^^ ^^ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 27 16:13:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06339; Mon, 27 Jun 94 16:13:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22138; Mon, 27 Jun 94 16:08:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22132; Mon, 27 Jun 94 16:08:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIPQi-00000DC; Mon, 27 Jun 94 15:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: Hooks into pager Date: 27 Jun 1994 13:05:16 -0700 Message-Id: <2unbds$960@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: <2un3d9$t59@mojo.eng.umd.edu> In article <2un3d9$t59@mojo.eng.umd.edu>, Chris Schlesiger wrote: : :I was looking for a way to hook into the pager that pine uses when reading a received message. : :I couldn't find anything offhand. Or I missed something really obvious. Just rewrite the scrolltool routine in mailview.c! But seriously, there isn't anything like setting the PAGER variable in /usr/ucb/Mail. : A lot of mailers will allow you to specify your own :pager so you can customize it. : :Which I would like to do. It would be a simple way to hook in a decryption program to read encoded messages that you received. : Perhaps the 'pipe' command (in 3.90?) will be an adequate workaround. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 27 17:34:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09472; Mon, 27 Jun 94 17:34:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08806; Mon, 27 Jun 94 17:29:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08800; Mon, 27 Jun 94 17:29:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIQhg-00000MC; Mon, 27 Jun 94 17:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: colttech@tyrell.net (Colt Technology) Subject: Re: Off-line composing Message-Id: <1994Jun27.211236.23211@tyrell.net> References: <2u97ok$1nqa@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> <2ug85q$6jg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 21:12:36 GMT In article <2ug85q$6jg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>, Frank Young wrote: >In article , >Mike Garrett wrote: >>>Can anyone tell me how to compose an ascii text file off-line and >>>upload it via Pine? I've been answering while connected, but that is >>>obviously not very satisfactory. >> > >On he other hand, if I just compose the message itself, at home and in >ASCII, and try to upload it into pine; then I get a raft of errors, most >of which look like ANSI codes, though they probably are not. I must then >cancel the message, exit PINE, upload the message as a file to my UNIX >account, re-enter PINE, and then use the feature of which you >have spoken. > >Isn't there any reasonable way to run the ASCII text, through the modem >directly into PINE, and then send the message? The problem has to do with your terminal software. The ASCII send function needs to send the text as if you had simply typed it at the keyboard for you to be able to send it straight to pine. The problem is that some terminal programs try to 'upload' the text instead, using some kind of file transfer protocol like x or zmodem. That's where all the control characters are coming from. If you seem to be loosing a lot of characters then the terminal software is sending the text too faxt for the editor to keep up. Try to find some way to control the speed at which characters are sent. You may have to switch terminal software to get what you need. Perhaps your software has a macro or script language that you can cause to send a file one character at a time. It might be too slow though. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 27 17:44:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09783; Mon, 27 Jun 94 17:44:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24348; Mon, 27 Jun 94 17:39:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24342; Mon, 27 Jun 94 17:39:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIQrr-00000DC; Mon, 27 Jun 94 17:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ivler@bbs.ug.eds.com (netsurfer (EDS)) Subject: Re: HELP! Filtering incoming mail Date: 27 Jun 94 13:44:48 GMT Message-Id: <1994Jun27.134448.1@bbs.ug.eds.com> References: <772724147snz@vsfl.demon.co.uk> In article <772724147snz@vsfl.demon.co.uk>, mark@vsfl.demon.co.uk (Mark Statham) writes: > In article dqle@netcom.com "The Road Warrior" >writes: > >>I subscribe to a mail list which generates 20-30 messages a day. I want >>to have these messages go into a special folder, other than my INBOX. >>This is so I can have my regular incoming email separate from the stuff >>generated by the mail list. >> >>Please email me if you have any advice. > > I quite happily use procmail to filter out my various message from mailing > lists and place them in multiple inbox or folders. You can get procmail-3.02 > from (or ask archie): > ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de:/pub/unix/procmail.tar.gz First thing, the question was "how do we get pine to do this", not "what products out there can do this" - FWIW, this is not a personal flame, three people so far have recomended "other" products... > It's very powerfull and pretty easy to use for simple things like redirecting > mail from mailing lists to new folders for use in PINE, to set up the folders > in Pine just read .pinerc file and it pretty easy to follow just setup the > incoming foler with a label(optional) and the path and when you run pine it > will give you a choice of inbox's to read, fun fun fun. I love this. at least four seperate readers have expreessed that they want to do this in pine. "just read .pinerc file and it pretty easy to follow" makes all those that have asked for help a bunch of dummies that can't follow directions. I'm afraid not. It isn't simple, I have tried to do it, and failed... and I too would love to know why it didn't work, and how to make it work. jmi ivler@ug.eds.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 27 18:34:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10824; Mon, 27 Jun 94 18:34:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09811; Mon, 27 Jun 94 18:29:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09805; Mon, 27 Jun 94 18:29:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIRdH-00000FC; Mon, 27 Jun 94 18:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: HELP! Filtering incoming mail Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 15:24:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994Jun27.134448.1@bbs.ug.eds.com> On 27 Jun 1994, netsurfer wrote: > In article <772724147snz@vsfl.demon.co.uk>, mark@vsfl.demon.co.uk (Mark > Statham) writes: > > In article dqle@netcom.com "The Road Warrior" > >writes: > > > >>I subscribe to a mail list which generates 20-30 messages a day. I want > >>to have these messages go into a special folder, other than my INBOX. > >>This is so I can have my regular incoming email separate from the stuff > >>generated by the mail list. > >> > >>Please email me if you have any advice. > > > > I quite happily use procmail to filter out my various message from mailing > > lists and place them in multiple inbox or folders. You can get procmail-3.02 > > from (or ask archie): > > ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de:/pub/unix/procmail.tar.gz > > First thing, the question was "how do we get pine to do this", not "what > products out there can do this" - FWIW, this is not a personal flame, three > people so far have recomended "other" products... > The answer is that the people recommending other products are correct! Pine does _NOT_ have any delivery filtering capability!!! The appropriate place to conduct filtering is before the message is delivered to your folder, which is outside the current scope of the Pine project. Admittedly we are not completely satisfied with any of the solutions currently available, but we do not have the resources to tackle the problem at this time. > > It's very powerfull and pretty easy to use for simple things like redirecting > > mail from mailing lists to new folders for use in PINE, to set up the folders > > in Pine just read .pinerc file and it pretty easy to follow just setup the > > incoming foler with a label(optional) and the path and when you run pine it > > will give you a choice of inbox's to read, fun fun fun. > > I love this. at least four seperate readers have expreessed that they want to > do this in pine. "just read .pinerc file and it pretty easy to follow" makes > all those that have asked for help a bunch of dummies that can't follow > directions. I'm afraid not. It isn't simple, I have tried to do it, and > failed... and I too would love to know why it didn't work, and how to make it > work. > The .pinerc entries are merely pointers to the folders that the _external_ delivery filter deposits messages in. I hope that helps! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 27 19:09:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11482; Mon, 27 Jun 94 19:09:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25759; Mon, 27 Jun 94 19:04:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25753; Mon, 27 Jun 94 19:04:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qISAA-00000HC; Mon, 27 Jun 94 18:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jarocki@sctc.com (Jim Jarocki) Subject: sound files in pine.. Message-Id: <1994Jun27.214738.6335@sctc.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 21:47:38 GMT my version of pine 3.89 was working wonderfully untill i tried to display an attached sound file today. it displays gif files perfectly, but sound files it vomits on. is there something in the .pinerc i can set so pine will know to access showaudio like it knows how to access xv? please respond via email as sometimes i do not keep up with the postings here... thanx for any help... JJ James R. Jarocki -- Secure Computing Corp. jarocki@sctc.com -- James R. Jarocki Secure Computing Corporation From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 27 22:28:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14987; Mon, 27 Jun 94 22:28:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13427; Mon, 27 Jun 94 22:24:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13421; Mon, 27 Jun 94 22:24:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIVK3-00000HC; Mon, 27 Jun 94 22:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dhalliwe@geog.ualberta.ca (David Halliwell) Subject: Re: Enhancement req: Take in From: addresses Date: 28 Jun 1994 03:19:05 GMT Message-Id: <2uo4r9$35e@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <2ulc2t$7a@giga.bga.com> larryb@bga.com (Larry Buickel) writes: >One enhancement that I would find useful would be to take the To: >addresses into the addressbook like I use (T) to take in the From: >address. Ideally, I would be able to add each address individually, >but more important (to me) would be the ability to add them all at >once into a mailing list. Thanks .... That would be really nice. When I get email from someone sending to a large group, it would be great to get all the names into a group at once. Same for a forwarded message: grab the the address it originated from instead of who forwarded the thing to you. (He who asks has no idea how complex it might be.) -- Dave Halliwell Department of Geography University of Alberta Edmonton, Alberta From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 03:33:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20789; Tue, 28 Jun 94 03:33:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03128; Tue, 28 Jun 94 03:25:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03122; Tue, 28 Jun 94 03:25:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIa0u-00000DC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 03:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Enhancement req: Take in From: addresses Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 22:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2uo4r9$35e@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> This feature will be included in Pine 3.90. It should be available in a few weeks... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 28 Jun 1994, David Halliwell wrote: > larryb@bga.com (Larry Buickel) writes: > > >One enhancement that I would find useful would be to take the To: > >addresses into the addressbook like I use (T) to take in the From: > >address. Ideally, I would be able to add each address individually, > >but more important (to me) would be the ability to add them all at > >once into a mailing list. Thanks .... > > That would be really nice. When I get email from someone sending to a > large group, it would be great to get all the names into a group at once. > Same for a forwarded message: grab the the address it originated from > instead of who forwarded the thing to you. > > (He who asks has no idea how complex it might be.) > > > -- > Dave Halliwell > Department of Geography > University of Alberta > Edmonton, Alberta > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 03:36:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20858; Tue, 28 Jun 94 03:36:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17606; Tue, 28 Jun 94 03:30:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17600; Tue, 28 Jun 94 03:30:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIa6D-00000HC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 03:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: sound files in pine.. Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 22:54:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994Jun27.214738.6335@sctc.com> Pine 3.89 only has sound support on the PC and Sun workstations. Pine 3.90 will allow more complete sound support via mailcap support. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 27 Jun 1994, Jim Jarocki wrote: > my version of pine 3.89 was working wonderfully untill i tried to display an > attached sound file today. it displays gif files perfectly, but sound > files it vomits on. is there something in the .pinerc i can set so > pine will know to access showaudio like it knows how to access xv? > > please respond via email as sometimes i do not keep up with the > postings here... > > thanx for any help... > > JJ > > James R. Jarocki -- Secure Computing Corp. > > jarocki@sctc.com > -- > > James R. Jarocki > Secure Computing Corporation > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 04:28:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22299; Tue, 28 Jun 94 04:28:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04126; Tue, 28 Jun 94 04:20:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04120; Tue, 28 Jun 94 04:20:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIapv-00000DC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 03:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oqp@cw-u01.umd.umich.edu (Christopher BIbbs) Subject: Pine at slow speeds Date: 28 Jun 1994 06:43:54 GMT Message-Id: <2uogra$2rc@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> I'm sure that this can be found some where in .pinerc, but I can't seem to find it so I'll ask here. Occasionly my main connection to the machine that carries my mail is down and I have to dial into a very old and slow modem (1200 bps). My question is how do I get pine to not invert selected items and just put a small marker by them and/or prevent it from writing messages about what its doing (I know what its doing, I usually gave the command to do it :) ) five seconds is five seconds when you have to worry about call waiting. :) -- "Sigs are a waste of bandwidth." Christopher M Bibbs chrisbib@umich.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 05:27:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23528; Tue, 28 Jun 94 05:27:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19381; Tue, 28 Jun 94 05:21:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19375; Tue, 28 Jun 94 05:21:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIbr4-00000HC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 05:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: soneill@access.netaxs.com (Steve O'Neill) Subject: Moving to Top and Bottom of File in Pico Date: 28 Jun 1994 11:32:57 GMT Message-Id: <2up1p9$iak@netaxs.com> Is there a quick way to move to the top/bottom or beginning/end of a file in Pico? I've never found one, but I might simply be missing it in the help screens. Thanks for any info on this. Steve O'Neill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 06:28:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24733; Tue, 28 Jun 94 06:28:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05784; Tue, 28 Jun 94 06:15:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05778; Tue, 28 Jun 94 06:15:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIchR-00000DC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 05:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jxt@ca12.cad.ornl.gov (Tolliver Johnny S) Subject: Enhancement request: address book expansion Date: 28 Jun 1994 12:47:40 GMT Message-Id: <2up65c$rsr@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV> I think it would be nice to have an optional FCC entry in the address book such that when I compose mail to an alias in the address book, the FCC header field would automatically be filled with the FCC entry from the address book. For example, composing mail to "joe" would produce To : Smith Joe Cc : Bcc : Fcc : mail-to-joe Attchmnt: Subject : What do you know, joe? If the FCC entry in the address book was left blank, then the default of sent-mail would apply. Hey, this idea could even be expanded further to include CC and BCC fields! -- Johnny Tolliver Oak Ridge National Laboratory (jxt@ornl.gov) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 06:29:19 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24760; Tue, 28 Jun 94 06:29:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20344; Tue, 28 Jun 94 06:21:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20338; Tue, 28 Jun 94 06:21:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIcnL-00000FC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 06:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ivler@bbs.ug.eds.com (netsurfer (EDS)) Subject: Re: HELP! Filtering incoming mail Date: 28 Jun 94 05:49:35 GMT Message-Id: <1994Jun28.054935.1@bbs.ug.eds.com> References: In article , David L Miller writes: > The answer is that the people recommending other products are correct! > Pine does _NOT_ have any delivery filtering capability!!! The appropriate > place to conduct filtering is before the message is delivered to your > folder, which is outside the current scope of the Pine project. > Admittedly we are not completely satisfied with any of the solutions > currently available, but we do not have the resources to tackle the > problem at this time. >From reading the .pinerc file that was not obvious. Being able to "set-up" differnt inboxes lead myself, and it appears a number of others, to believe that pine was able to "filter" at well (I think the example with the filter/to-somewhere threw me off :-) ). > The .pinerc entries are merely pointers to the folders that the _external_ > delivery filter deposits messages in. > > I hope that helps! David, it certainly did. I hope that you understand where the confusion comes in. It appears in the .pinerc file that there is a methode for autosrting by field, but it is not clearly explained that this is not done by pine, but a link for external products to use. I can't speak for everyone else, but I appreciate the clarification. jmi ivler@bbs.ug.eds.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 06:31:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24833; Tue, 28 Jun 94 06:31:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05939; Tue, 28 Jun 94 06:25:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05933; Tue, 28 Jun 94 06:25:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIcvA-00000IC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 06:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbp3@Ra.MsState.Edu (Jay B. Parker) Subject: Re: Enhancement request: address book expansion Date: 28 Jun 1994 08:09:34 -0500 Message-Id: <2up7ee$rtf@Ra.MsState.Edu> References: <2up65c$rsr@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> +--- Tolliver Johnny S writes: | I think it would be nice to have an optional FCC entry in the address book | such that when I compose mail to an alias in the address book, the FCC | header field would automatically be filled with the FCC entry from the | address book. | [example deleted] | | If the FCC entry in the address book was left blank, then the default of | sent-mail would apply. | | Hey, this idea could even be expanded further to include CC and BCC fields! I *like* the Fcc: idea, and after some thought came up with instances I would want the same capability for Cc: & Bcc:. A thought, then: It's been established that Pine 3.90 will have user-definable headers; why not be able to set up a custom set of special header lines for a given address book entry? -- Jay B. Parker -- Mississippi State University -- jbp3@Ra.MsState.Edu "But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep."-Frost From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 07:26:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25841; Tue, 28 Jun 94 07:26:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06680; Tue, 28 Jun 94 07:13:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from hptele24.telerate.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06666; Tue, 28 Jun 94 07:13:13 -0700 Message-Id: <9406281413.AA06666@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Received: by hptele24.telerate.com (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03047; Tue, 28 Jun 94 10:15:54 -0400 From: David Weintraub Subject: Re: HELP! Filtering incoming mail To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 10:15:53 -0500 (EDT) Reply-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Organization: Dow Jones/Telerate Phone Number: 201-938-5808 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 791 You can always use Elm's filter command to filter incoming mail, even if you don't use Elm as your mail reader! The only requirements are: 1). Your system must understand how to use the .forward file in a home directory. 2). You must know where your system administrator keeps the filter command. (Usually it's in /usr/local/bin or /usr/lbin, but it all depends on the whims of your SA). Sure, it looks a little strange having to setup a $HOME/.elm directory, but it works. I gave someone directions how to do this and he said he would post it to the pine newsgroup. If it's not there, I'll post the directions I have to this mailing list. -- David Weintraub | Opinions expressed are mine and not Telerate's davidw@cnj.digex.net | Not that anyone listens to me anyway From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 12:03:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07101; Tue, 28 Jun 94 12:03:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27485; Tue, 28 Jun 94 11:47:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from garnet.Berkeley.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27479; Tue, 28 Jun 94 11:47:26 -0700 From: jczhang@garnet.berkeley.edu Received: by garnet.berkeley.edu (8.6.8/1.33r) id LAA28347; Tue, 28 Jun 1994 11:47:24 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 11:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Kanji/Hanzi in pine? (fwd) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes, I definitely would like to see the availability of Chinese (Hanzi) version of pine. And, as a computer consultant at UC Berkeley, I know it is the desire of many other users. Please go ahead and develop the program and I am sure it will be appreciated by a large number of Chinese speakers in this country. Please keep us informed about your progress. Thanks. On Wed, 8 Jun 1994, Henry @(0-0) wrote: > If you are interested in using pine in Chinese, please send your > suggestion to pine-info@cac.washington.edu. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 18:33:34 -0700 (PDT) > From: Mark Crispin > To: "Henry @(0-0)" > Subject: Re: Kanji/Hanzi in pine? > > At the present time, Pine's support of East Asian character sets is very > limited. Pine knows enough to pass the ESCAPE, SI, and SO characters used by > Japanese, Korean, and Chinese encodings. But Pine is otherwise not aware of > multi-byte character sets. > > The consequence is that, with some problems, you can read messages which use > East Asian characters with Pine, but it is difficult to send messages with > East Asian characters from Pine. > > We are aware of these problems, and we have discussed them in our meetings. > I expect that we will solve these problems in a future version of Pine, but at > the present time it is not possible to say when this will happen. There are > many pressing tasks on the Pine team's ``to-do'' list which appear to be of > greater importance. > > It would help if we hear from users who wish to use Pine with East Asian > languages. We really don't know how large the community is. Obviously, we > have to dedicate our resources to projects that will be of benefit to large > numbers of users. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 12:23:28 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07845; Tue, 28 Jun 94 12:23:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13439; Tue, 28 Jun 94 12:13:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13433; Tue, 28 Jun 94 12:13:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIi8L-00000HC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 11:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: daniel@laser.elmer.alaska.edu (root) Subject: smtp transport blues Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 17:55:20 GMT Our system is having several instances of mail that can not be delivered for a variety of reasons. The more frequent of these being: "transport smtp: connect: Connection refused" "transport smtp: connect: No route to host" I realize that these are problems that might be by passed by modifying s-mail so that is retrys more often or for a longer period, Can someone tell me how to do this? I have a large book on sendmail but it seems incompatible with the s-mail system in Linux. Are there any other users out there that have had these type of problems, If so or if there is someone that just knows better, please post possible solutions to my problem. We are running a Pine mail system under Linux on a 486-33. We have c.330 users of which only a couple are having problems, but we would like everyone to be happy. Thanks now for whatever you send me later. -Daniel Grahek (help@muskox.alaska.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 12:27:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07960; Tue, 28 Jun 94 12:27:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28225; Tue, 28 Jun 94 12:17:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28219; Tue, 28 Jun 94 12:17:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIiKD-00000ZC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 11:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dqle@netcom.com (The Road Warrior) Subject: Re: HELP! Filtering incoming mail Message-Id: References: <9406281413.AA06666@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 18:15:11 GMT David Weintraub (dhw@hptele24.telerate.com) wrote: : You can always use Elm's filter command to filter incoming mail, even if : you don't use Elm as your mail reader! The only requirements are: : 1). Your system must understand how to use the .forward file in a home : directory. : 2). You must know where your system administrator keeps the filter : command. (Usually it's in /usr/local/bin or /usr/lbin, but it : all depends on the whims of your SA). : Sure, it looks a little strange having to setup a $HOME/.elm directory, : but it works. : I gave someone directions how to do this and he said he would post it to : the pine newsgroup. If it's not there, I'll post the directions I have : to this mailing list. David, what you're saying here is great news, but I'm afraid I still need some help (I'm quite new at this, and just learning as I go along). 1.So far, I've read man filter and from what I understand, I need to write a filter-rules file, which is placed in my $HOME/.elm/ directory. I'm getting my messages from a mail-list named Chile-heads, so I wrote this file with one line: rules = if (from = Chile-heads@chile.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu) then save Chile-heads (Chile-heads being a folder I set up in Pine). 2.Now what do I do next? Do I go into .pinerc and write: incoming-folders=Chile-heads filter/$HOME/mail/Chile-heads (?) Do I have to make any mention of my default INBOX, where I still want "regular" messages to be placed? 3.I have seen references to a .forward file somewhere, but I'm have no idea what that file should contain, and where to put it? This probably is very elementary for those of you who've done this already, but I must say that it is very confusing for me. The instructions that come with filter, procmail, and pine are all so cryptic, no matter hw many times I pore over them. So, if you'd be kind enough to lend some further assistance, I'll be most grateful!:=) Thanks a million for everyone's input so far, I hope to see the end of this tunnel soon...:-( -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ David "Q" Le "I...am Q...and you have absolutely Market Strategies, Inc. *no* idea how screwed up this is..." dqle@netcom.com (Q-squared, by Peter David) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 13:37:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10224; Tue, 28 Jun 94 13:37:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15075; Tue, 28 Jun 94 13:24:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15069; Tue, 28 Jun 94 13:24:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIjIb-00000DC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 12:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kpscjxh@cerf.net () Subject: Ispell support... Date: 28 Jun 1994 15:27:11 GMT Message-Id: <2upfgf$6q@news.cerf.net> I'm sure this has been asked before, but here goes anyway. Is there any way to use the Ispell program to check the spelling of a message? I've tried setting the environment variable SPELL to "ispell -a" with no success. So, if anyone has figured out a magic incantation to make this work that he/she would like to share with me, I'd be quite grateful. --joerg ---- *************************************************************************** * Joerg Hallbauer |Internet: kpscjxh@cerf.net * * Information Services Dept.|Ma Bell : (818)564-7423 * * Kaiser Permanente |FAX : (818)564-7502 * * 393 East Walnut Street |QUOTE : A horse can be made to drink, but * * Pasadena, Ca. 91188 | a pencil must always be lead. * *************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 13:57:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10858; Tue, 28 Jun 94 13:57:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00496; Tue, 28 Jun 94 13:49:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00490; Tue, 28 Jun 94 13:49:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIjjc-00000DC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 13:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: df@christa.unh.edu (Dan Ford) Subject: Re: Off-line composing Date: 28 Jun 1994 15:28:04 GMT Message-Id: <2upfi4$6ih@mozz.unh.edu> References: <2ug85q$6jg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <1994Jun27.211236.23211@tyrell.net> >>On he other hand, if I just compose the message itself, at home and in >>ASCII, and try to upload it into pine; then I get a raft of errors, most >>of which look like ANSI codes, though they probably are not. I must then >>cancel the message, exit PINE, upload the message as a file to my UNIX >>account, re-enter PINE, and then use the feature of which you >>have spoken. >> >The problem has to do with your terminal software. The ASCII send >function needs to send the text as if you had simply typed it at the >keyboard for you to be able to send it straight to pine. The problem is >that some terminal programs try to 'upload' the text instead, using some >kind of file transfer protocol like x or zmodem. That's where all the >control characters are coming from. If you seem to be loosing a lot of >characters then the terminal software is sending the text too faxt for I'm not sure that that was the poster's problem. ProComm sends ASCII files and sends them in such a manner that they can be received by any editor (I think) except Pico. For example, I can use ASCII uploads to mail a letter using the mail command in Unix shell. If I send into Pine, or into a pico file at the shell, the screen fills up with wild characters and throws bits of my message all over the place. If I go right ahead and send it, however, the message seems to unscramble itself and comes out okay at the other end. I've done this sending letters to myself, but I am not quite prepared to risk it off-site. So I use the mail utility mentioned in an earlier posting. -- - Dan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 14:06:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11120; Tue, 28 Jun 94 14:06:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15752; Tue, 28 Jun 94 13:58:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15746; Tue, 28 Jun 94 13:58:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIjte-00000WC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 13:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pbarber@eskimo.com (Putnam Barber) Subject: Re: Marking blocks Message-Id: References: <2uhp00$bbs@news1.digex.net> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 13:10:51 GMT Gabe Goldberg (gabe@access1.digex.net) wrote: : I'd appreciate seeing the key-by-key sequence to mark text blocks in Pine. To remove the rest of this message, I positioned the curson at the start of the first missing line Ctrl-^ Ctrl-V Ctrl-K To bring it back (as long as I haven't used Ctrl-K in the meantime (Pine has only one buffer).... Ctrl-U : I've RTFM and experimented, but I can't get ^K to delete more than one line : at a time. Even worse, it smirks at me occasionally, telling me that I : *could* mark blocks to be more efficient. : ----- : Gabriel Goldberg, Computers and Publishing, Inc. : 13382 Brookfield Court, Chantilly, VA 22021-2618 : Voice: (703) 968-5738 FAX: (703) 502-0673 Internet: gabe@access.digex.net voila! Putnam Barber Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 14:07:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11189; Tue, 28 Jun 94 14:07:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15736; Tue, 28 Jun 94 13:57:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from smdis01.mcclellan.af.mil by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15728; Tue, 28 Jun 94 13:57:54 -0700 Received: from clyde.mcclellan.af.mil by smdis01.mcclellan.af.mil (5.61/sm5.2) with SMTP; id AA03840; Tue, 28 Jun 94 13:59:14 -0700 Return-Path: Received: by clyde.mcclellan.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09255; Tue, 28 Jun 94 13:58:22 PDT Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 13:58:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Perdue Subject: Re: Ispell support... To: kpscjxh@cerf.net Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2upfgf$6q@news.cerf.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 28 Jun 1994 kpscjxh@cerf.net wrote: > I'm sure this has been asked before, but here goes anyway. Is there > any way to use the Ispell program to check the spelling of a message? > I've tried setting the environment variable SPELL to "ispell -a" with > no success. So, if anyone has figured out a magic incantation to make > this work that he/she would like to share with me, I'd be quite grateful. The easy way to use ispell with pine is to make ispell your alternate editor. Then all you have to do is hit ^_ to invoke spell checking. The change you need to make in .pinerc is: # editor specifies the program invoked by ^_ in the Composer. # This is normally an alternative to Pine's internal composer (Pico) editor=ispell I have vi set as my alternate editor so I invoke ispell using a vi macro. --- ____ _________________________________________ / ___| __ _ _ __ _ _ | Gary L. Perdue unix technical lead | | | _ / _` | '__| | | | | 652nd CCSG/SCCB McClellan AFB, Ca 95652 | | |_| | (_| | | | |_| | | Phone (916)643-4666 FAX (916)643-1526 | \____|\__,_|_| \__, | | email perdue@clyde.mcclellan.af.mil | |___/ |_________________________________________| -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- In 1977, the Chairman of Digital Equipment Corporation declared that "there is no reason for any individual to have a computer in their home." Today, almost one in three U.S. households has a computer. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 14:10:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11348; Tue, 28 Jun 94 14:10:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00778; Tue, 28 Jun 94 14:04:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00770; Tue, 28 Jun 94 14:04:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIjtf-00000XC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 13:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pbarber@eskimo.com (Putnam Barber) Subject: Re: Getting files from the disc into pine Message-Id: References: Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 13:23:45 GMT gjfec (gjfec@westminster.ac.uk) wrote: : I have just one question that I would like to pose to the Pine group. : Is it at all possible to get a file from one of my discs and then put : it in to the pine editor and then post it on ? Please would you explain : in really simple english as iam stupid ! : Gjfec@westminster.ac.uk It sounds like you want to (1) upload a file from some other computer and then (2) bring that file into Pine for mailing. #1 has too many variations to make it efficient to try to answer it without more information, and someone "local" to your working environment will probably be able to help you more efficiently. For #2: once you have the file in a directory on the same computer that's running pine for you, the Ctrl-R command starts R)eading it "in" to your Pine document. Once you've typed Ctrl-R, the menu changes and Ctrl-T gives you a list of currently accessible files. If you know the file is somewhere, and it doesn't show up in that list, you'll need to use your host systems file-management commands to move it to the right directory. You may see various ugly things in the file once you bring it in to Pine -- that will be because the upload process hasn't dealt completely with the variations in conventions about how to store text in files. If that happens, you'll need to ask more, and more specific, questions about the upload processes that suit your situation. It sounds worse than it is. But it did take me a while to figure out. And I still get "Warning: last line of file is {something wrong}" messages about half the time. Sometimes there's a ^Z there. Deleting it seems to get rid of the problem. Incidently, the reverse process starts with Ctrl-E, to E)xport the text of your pine message to a file which can be downloaded, etc. Good luck, Putnam Barber Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 15:31:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14450; Tue, 28 Jun 94 15:31:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17640; Tue, 28 Jun 94 15:22:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from jade.saintmarys.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17634; Tue, 28 Jun 94 15:22:19 -0700 Received: by jade.saintmarys.edu (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA00360; Tue, 28 Jun 1994 17:24:45 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 17:24:44 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Mandell Subject: Re: Off-line composing To: Dan Ford Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2upfi4$6ih@mozz.unh.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have had fairly good luck uploading text files using Procomm's Ascii upload directly into Pine's compose mode - which fill the screen with ANSI looking stuff - but pressing ^J (Justify) usually removes the ANSI stuff, making this the simplest upload procedure of all. I don't know how reliable it is either, but it seems to usually work for me. Dan On 28 Jun 1994, Dan Ford wrote: > >>On he other hand, if I just compose the message itself, at home and in > >>ASCII, and try to upload it into pine; then I get a raft of errors, most > >>of which look like ANSI codes, though they probably are not. I must then > >>cancel the message, exit PINE, upload the message as a file to my UNIX > >>account, re-enter PINE, and then use the feature of which you > >>have spoken. > >> > If I go right ahead and send it, however, the message seems to unscramble > itself and comes out okay at the other end. I've done this sending > letters to myself, but I am not quite prepared to risk it off-site. So I > use the mail utility mentioned in an earlier posting. > -- > - Dan > -- ===================================== Dan Mandell, Computer Services, Saint Mary's College Internet: dmandell@saintmarys.edu "Others promise you the World. We deliver!": New York Times From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 15:46:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15114; Tue, 28 Jun 94 15:46:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18015; Tue, 28 Jun 94 15:38:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18009; Tue, 28 Jun 94 15:38:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIlSQ-00000DC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 15:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mramey@u.washington.edu (Mike Ramey) Subject: Re: Ispell support... How to do it ! Date: 28 Jun 1994 17:24:38 GMT Message-Id: <2upmcm$5m7@news.u.washington.edu> References: <2upfgf$6q@news.cerf.net> kpscjxh@cerf.net (Joerg Hallbauer) writes: >I'm sure this has been asked before, but here goes anyway. Is there >any way to use the Ispell program to check the spelling of a message? >I've tried setting the environment variable SPELL to "ispell -a" with >no success. So, if anyone has figured out a magic incantation to make >this work that he/she would like to share with me, I'd be quite grateful. ---------- From the forthcoming Pine FAQ ----------- How do I use Ispell with Pine (and Pico)? Here are a couple ways to use Ispell within Pine: 1. Set your alternate-editor to ispell, then ^_ in the composer invokes ispell. To do this, set 'editor=/usr/local/bin/ispell' in your .pinerc file. This may be set within Pine via the OPTIONS task of the SETUP command from the main menu. Check to be sure that the ispell program is installed on your system, and use the correct directory path. Now, when you press ^_ (^-) in pine, you will execute the ispell program in its native mode. Press ? for help. Press I to insert unknown words into the personal dictionary. You can still press ^T to use the standard pine spell-checking program (which will -not- use your personal dictionary). See 'man ispell' for more information on the ispell program. 2. Pine already checks the SPELL environment variable so you can create the following script and name it spell. #!/bin/sh ispell -l | sort | uniq To make ^T in pine use 'ispell' and your '$HOME/.ispell_words' dictionary: - make the above script file 'spell' in your home directory - make it executable: 'chmod u+x spell' - set the environment variable SPELL: 'setenv SPELL $HOME/spell' (you may include this command in your .profile, .cshrc or .login file) Now, when you press ^T in pine, you will execute the ispell program, and it will recognize words stored in the private dictionary. The screen display will look like pine is using the standard spell-checking program. Unfortunately, this method does not allow the user to Insert words into the private dictionary. However, this might be useful with a central script file (setenv SPELL ...) and a central private dictionary (ispell -p ...) to provide a common private dictionary for an entire workgroup. The manager could add items to the private dictionary; ordinary pine users would use the private dictionary (^T), but they could not change it. To use ispell with pico, implement the 'ispell' program via ^T (CTRL-T) (using the script file) in addition to implementing it via ^_ (CTRL-_) (using the .pinerc file). Use ^_ in pine (it won't work in pico) for full-featured ispell. Use ^T in pico to use the ispell program and your .ispell_words dictionary (but without the full ispell functionality). You can use ^T-ispell in pine also, but why bother when ^_ works better. [MRamey] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 15:52:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15392; Tue, 28 Jun 94 15:52:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03072; Tue, 28 Jun 94 15:43:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03064; Tue, 28 Jun 94 15:43:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIlTL-00000FC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 15:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsallen@rs6.tcs.tulane.edu (Jay Allen) Subject: Changing reply headers Date: 28 Jun 1994 05:16:49 GMT Message-Id: <2uobo1$2gm@news.cs.tulane.edu> I want to change the headers for my reply mail. They currently read, "On , wrote:" I would like it to read "On , you wrote:" I have already changed it in the .pinerc, and the tinrc where it asks for mail quote=balhblahblah. Neither works. Any ideas? _________________________________________________________________________ Jay Allen Texas-Ex '93 Tulane Medical School Southeastern Intercollegiate Sailing Association Executive Vice-President _________________________________________________________________________ --- When we say 'hike out', we mean *HIKE* *OUT*. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 16:28:07 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16936; Tue, 28 Jun 94 16:28:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18910; Tue, 28 Jun 94 16:13:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18904; Tue, 28 Jun 94 16:13:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIlzl-00000DC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 15:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: HELP! Filtering incoming mail Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 14:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: For your example, put the following in your filter-rules file: if (from = Chile-heads@chile.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu) then save Chile-heads and the following in your .pinerc file: incoming-folders="Chile Heads" Chile-heads and the following in your .forward file: "|/usr/local/bin/filter -o /usr/users/dwh/filter.errors" (the above paths may need to be altered for your environment...) --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 28 Jun 1994, The Road Warrior wrote: > David Weintraub (dhw@hptele24.telerate.com) wrote: > > : You can always use Elm's filter command to filter incoming mail, even if > : you don't use Elm as your mail reader! The only requirements are: > > : 1). Your system must understand how to use the .forward file in a home > : directory. > > : 2). You must know where your system administrator keeps the filter > : command. (Usually it's in /usr/local/bin or /usr/lbin, but it > : all depends on the whims of your SA). > > : Sure, it looks a little strange having to setup a $HOME/.elm directory, > : but it works. > > : I gave someone directions how to do this and he said he would post it to > : the pine newsgroup. If it's not there, I'll post the directions I have > : to this mailing list. > > David, what you're saying here is great news, but I'm afraid I still need > some help (I'm quite new at this, and just learning as I go along). > > 1.So far, I've read man filter and from what I understand, I need to write a > filter-rules file, which is placed in my $HOME/.elm/ directory. I'm > getting my messages from a mail-list named Chile-heads, so I wrote this > file with one line: > > rules = if (from = Chile-heads@chile.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu) then save > Chile-heads > > (Chile-heads being a folder I set up in Pine). > > 2.Now what do I do next? Do I go into .pinerc and write: > > incoming-folders=Chile-heads filter/$HOME/mail/Chile-heads (?) > > Do I have to make any mention of my default INBOX, where I still want > "regular" messages to be placed? > > 3.I have seen references to a .forward file somewhere, but I'm have no idea > what that file should contain, and where to put it? > > This probably is very elementary for those of you who've done this > already, but I must say that it is very confusing for me. The > instructions that come with filter, procmail, and pine are all so > cryptic, no matter hw many times I pore over them. > > So, if you'd be kind enough to lend some further assistance, I'll be most > grateful!:=) Thanks a million for everyone's input so far, I hope to see > the end of this tunnel soon...:-( > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > David "Q" Le "I...am Q...and you have absolutely > Market Strategies, Inc. *no* idea how screwed up this is..." > dqle@netcom.com (Q-squared, by Peter David) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 16:36:54 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17361; Tue, 28 Jun 94 16:36:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04186; Tue, 28 Jun 94 16:28:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04180; Tue, 28 Jun 94 16:28:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qImAx-00000FC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 16:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: mh folders Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 14:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine 3.90 will include support for MH folders by default. It is also possible to build Pine 3.89 with the latest IMAP toolkit to get the new driver.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 28 Jun 1994, Chris Garrigues wrote: > I could have sworn that I recently saw a message which said that you > could read mh style folders from within pine, but I can't figure out > how. Did I imagine this or can it be done? > > (I'd like to use exmh on my desktop and pine when I'm logged in over a > modem.) > > Chris > -- > Chris Garrigues (MIME capable) cwg@mcc.com > Microelectronics and Computer Technology Corporation +1 512 338 3328 > 3500 West Balcones Center Fax +1 512 338 3838 > Austin, TX 78759-5398 USA > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 16:37:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17401; Tue, 28 Jun 94 16:37:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19301; Tue, 28 Jun 94 16:28:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19295; Tue, 28 Jun 94 16:28:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qImB6-00000HC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 16:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Moving to Top and Bottom of File in Pico Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 14:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2up1p9$iak@netaxs.com> This is not yet available, but will be included in the upcoming Pine 3.90 release. It should be available in a few weeks. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 28 Jun 1994, Steve O'Neill wrote: > Is there a quick way to move to the top/bottom or beginning/end of a file > in Pico? I've never found one, but I might simply be missing it in the > help screens. Thanks for any info on this. > > Steve O'Neill > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 16:40:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17631; Tue, 28 Jun 94 16:40:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04310; Tue, 28 Jun 94 16:33:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04304; Tue, 28 Jun 94 16:33:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qImGE-00000IC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 16:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: berczuk@space.mit.edu (Steve Berczuk) Subject: Re: PGP with pine !? Date: 28 Jun 1994 18:17:56 GMT Message-Id: <2uppgk$gt7@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: |> |> > I assume everybody knows what is PGP and public-key way of cripting |> > or signing a mail. I have PGP 2.6ui version (UI stands for Unofficial |> > International release). And as far as I know it can be used with out |> > restrictions (am I right ? :-), so ... |> |> You are wrong. ui cannot be used within the U.S. without violating RSA's |> patents, and if you export it, you can go to jail. actually, pgp 2.6 CAN be used for non-commercial use; but it still cannot be exported.. -- Steve Berczuk berczuk@mit.edu MIT Center for Space Research (617) 253-3840 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 17:53:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20131; Tue, 28 Jun 94 17:53:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21222; Tue, 28 Jun 94 17:47:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21206; Tue, 28 Jun 94 17:47:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qInQT-00000DC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 17:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Changing reply headers Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 15:33:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2uobo1$2gm@news.cs.tulane.edu> Pine does not have a mail-quote variable in the .pinerc file... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 28 Jun 1994, Jay Allen wrote: > I want to change the headers for my reply mail. They currently > read, "On , wrote:" I would like it to read "On , > you wrote:" > > I have already changed it in the .pinerc, and the tinrc where > it asks for mail quote=balhblahblah. Neither works. Any ideas? > _________________________________________________________________________ > Jay Allen Texas-Ex '93 Tulane Medical School > Southeastern Intercollegiate Sailing Association Executive Vice-President > _________________________________________________________________________ > --- When we say 'hike out', we mean *HIKE* *OUT*. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 18:04:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20369; Tue, 28 Jun 94 18:04:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06184; Tue, 28 Jun 94 17:57:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06178; Tue, 28 Jun 94 17:57:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qInbh-00000FC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 17:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: HELP! Filtering incoming mail Date: 28 Jun 1994 15:36:19 -0700 Message-Id: <2uq8l3$b0m@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: <9406281413.AA06666@mx2.cac.washington.edu> In article , The Road Warrior wrote: : :1.So far, I've read man filter and from what I understand, I need to write a :filter-rules file, which is placed in my $HOME/.elm/ directory. I'm :getting my messages from a mail-list named Chile-heads, so I wrote this :file with one line: : : rules = if (from = Chile-heads@chile.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu) then save : Chile-heads Umm, try if (from = "Chile-heads@chile.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu") then save "~/mail/Chile-heads" :2.Now what do I do next? Do I go into .pinerc and write: : : incoming-folders=Chile-heads filter/$HOME/mail/Chile-heads (?) incoming-folders=Chile-heads I *assume* that's the list of folders, besides INBOX, that will be checked for new mail. Never used it myself. It's not needed for filtering per se. : :Do I have to make any mention of my default INBOX, where I still want :"regular" messages to be placed? No. Look at the distinction between 'save' and 'savecopy', though. : :3.I have seen references to a .forward file somewhere, but I'm have no idea :what that file should contain, and where to put it? "| /path/name/to/filter -vo /your/homedir/.elm/filter-log" This goes in $HOME/.forward. Your home directory will probably need to be world-executable. The filter manpage isn't the place to be looking for tutorial info; look at 'The Elm Filter Guide'. Whoever installed elm on your system should know where it is. In particular, study the -o options and learn about filter -r. While it may be easier to get started with filter than deliver (or procmail), I'd recommend deliver over filter. (I haven't used procmail, but it does have a good reputation.) One reason: we've noticed that filter doesn't deal with a full mail spool partition gracefully -- deliver will return with an ENOSPC error to sendmail, which can be passed back to the original sender, but filter appears to deliver the message successfully. Of course since there is no room left in the mail spool for the new message, it isn't really delivered... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 18:24:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20723; Tue, 28 Jun 94 18:24:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21676; Tue, 28 Jun 94 18:17:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21670; Tue, 28 Jun 94 18:17:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qInxb-00000DC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 17:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cwg@urbino.mcc.com (Chris Garrigues) Subject: mh folders Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 19:49:03 GMT I could have sworn that I recently saw a message which said that you could read mh style folders from within pine, but I can't figure out how. Did I imagine this or can it be done? (I'd like to use exmh on my desktop and pine when I'm logged in over a modem.) Chris -- Chris Garrigues (MIME capable) cwg@mcc.com Microelectronics and Computer Technology Corporation +1 512 338 3328 3500 West Balcones Center Fax +1 512 338 3838 Austin, TX 78759-5398 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 20:00:05 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22285; Tue, 28 Jun 94 20:00:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07882; Tue, 28 Jun 94 19:52:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07876; Tue, 28 Jun 94 19:52:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIpRy-00000DC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 19:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mauricio@tezcat.com (Mauricio Araujo) Subject: .pinerc Date: 28 Jun 1994 17:52:56 -0500 Message-Id: <2uq9k8$ees@xochi.tezcat.com> This is a newbie question. Where do I find this file ".pinerc"? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 21:00:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23385; Tue, 28 Jun 94 21:00:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23881; Tue, 28 Jun 94 20:53:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23875; Tue, 28 Jun 94 20:52:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIqMs-00000HC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 20:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tmeush1@umbc.edu (Tim Meushaw) Subject: Re: .pinerc Date: 29 Jun 1994 01:03:49 GMT Message-Id: <2uqh9l$bmp@news.umbc.edu> References: <2uq9k8$ees@xochi.tezcat.com> Mauricio Araujo (mauricio@tezcat.com) wrote: : This is a newbie question. Where do I find this file ".pinerc"? The first time you run pine (if it's on your system) it should be created. Or, if you download it, the same thing should occur. At least, that's what happened in my case. -- ------------------------ Timothy A. Meushaw (tmeush1@gl.umbc.edu) University of Maryland, Baltimore County "May whatever god you believe in have mercy on your soul." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 21:05:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23475; Tue, 28 Jun 94 21:05:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08821; Tue, 28 Jun 94 20:57:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08815; Tue, 28 Jun 94 20:57:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIqQJ-00000DC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 20:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edgar@.wired.com (Edgar Nielsen) Subject: Re: mh folders Message-Id: References: Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 01:39:05 GMT David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : Pine 3.90 will include support for MH folders by default. It is also : possible to build Pine 3.89 with the latest IMAP toolkit to get the new : driver.... I just recompiled pine 3.89 with IMAP 3.3 instead of the regular IMAP. However, that doesn't seem to do anything, at least not automatically. How do I tell pine in my .pinerc that I want to use MH style mailboxes? Just giving a directory as a folder name is rejected. Edgar Nielsen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 21:37:29 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24069; Tue, 28 Jun 94 21:37:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09307; Tue, 28 Jun 94 21:32:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from steadfast.teradyne.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09301; Tue, 28 Jun 94 21:32:03 -0700 Received: from laforge.ttd.teradyne.com by steadfast.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/jxh940509) id AA10033; Wed, 29 Jun 94 00:30:40 EDT Received: from columbus.ttd.teradyne.com by laforge.ttd.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/TER-1.35/laforge-1.1) id AA09047; Tue, 28 Jun 94 23:29:43 CDT Received: by columbus.ttd.teradyne.com (16.6/15.6) id AA06607; Tue, 28 Jun 94 23:30:33 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 23:30:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Kenny Wickstrom Reply-To: Kenny Wickstrom Subject: Re: .pinerc To: Mauricio Araujo Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2uq9k8$ees@xochi.tezcat.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On 28 Jun 1994, Mauricio Araujo wrote: > This is a newbie question. Where do I find this file ".pinerc"? > Tim is correct that .pinerc gets created when you use pine for the first time. However, he did not mention that it would be created in your home directory. |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| |Kenny Wickstrom | Breaking S/W is FUN | | |wickstro@ttd.teradyne.com | (708)940-9000 x2349 | | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 28 22:09:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24560; Tue, 28 Jun 94 22:09:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24845; Tue, 28 Jun 94 21:59:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24839; Tue, 28 Jun 94 21:59:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIrOu-00000DC; Tue, 28 Jun 94 21:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: erdely@wam.umd.edu (Micos Express) Subject: Re: .pinerc Date: 29 Jun 1994 03:25:24 GMT Message-Id: <2uqpj4$a9i@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <2uq9k8$ees@xochi.tezcat.com> Mauricio Araujo (mauricio@tezcat.com) wrote: > This is a newbie question. Where do I find this file ".pinerc"? Type this: pico ~/.pinerc {Basically, once you run pine, ".pinerc" is created in the user's home directory.} -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Erdely - The Micos Express University of Maryland at College Park "Mother is the name for God in the lips and hearts of children." --Brandon Lee -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 29 01:55:57 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28865; Wed, 29 Jun 94 01:55:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28029; Wed, 29 Jun 94 01:50:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28023; Wed, 29 Jun 94 01:50:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIuuz-00000MC; Wed, 29 Jun 94 01:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: u934132@student.canberra.edu.au (Ogawa / Taro Stephen (ISE)) Subject: Re: ^L Message-Id: <1994Jun29.062409.20156@csc.canberra.edu.au> References: <2uaiss$g7q@news.cs.tulane.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 94 06:24:09 GMT In article hayden@vorlon.mankato.msus.edu ("Robert A. Hayden") writes: >I have ^V as page down.... Me too :P -- Taro. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 29 05:04:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03261; Wed, 29 Jun 94 05:04:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15913; Wed, 29 Jun 94 04:55:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15907; Wed, 29 Jun 94 04:55:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIxsx-00000DC; Wed, 29 Jun 94 04:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vinberg@cc.Helsinki.FI (Olli Vinberg) Subject: how to get rid of pico? Date: 29 Jun 1994 14:16:04 +0300 Message-Id: <2url5k$3in@karhu.Helsinki.FI> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ok, pine is a good piece of software, but it has a flaw that makes it unusable for me. I can't stand pico. It wouldn't be so bad if my terminal could generate the ^_ (was it) that switches to alternate editor, but it cant. So what I'm asking is: Is there a way to bind that alt.editor function to some other control-key? or maybe make pine use some other editor (vi in my case) instead of the horrid pico? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Olli Vinberg \ Our OS who art in CPU, UNIX be thy name. vinberg@cc.helsinki.fi \ Thy programs run, thy syscalls done, http://www.helsinki.fi/~vinberg \ in kernel as it is in user! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 29 05:29:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03676; Wed, 29 Jun 94 05:29:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01284; Wed, 29 Jun 94 05:22:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from creamy.ics.es.osaka-u.ac.jp by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01278; Wed, 29 Jun 94 05:22:10 -0700 Received: by creamy.ics.es.osaka-u.ac.jp (5.67+1.6W/6.4J.6-creamy-mx.1.128) id AA27995; Wed, 29 Jun 94 21:12:50 +0900 Received: by kgupyr.kwansei.ac.jp (5.61/6.4J.6) id AA19288; Wed, 29 Jun 94 20:40:34 +0900 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 20:40:34 +0900 (JST) From: Takashi TSUJINO Subject: Re: Kanji/Hanzi in pine? (fwd) To: jczhang@garnet.berkeley.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 28 Jun 1994 jczhang@garnet.berkeley.edu wrote: > Yes, I definitely would like to see the availability of Chinese (Hanzi) > version of pine. And, as a computer consultant at UC Berkeley, I know it is > the desire of many other users. Please go ahead and develop the program > and I am sure it will be appreciated by a large number of Chinese > speakers in this country. Please keep us informed about your progress. > Thanks. In Japanese, there are 3 major Japanese character sets, JIS, EUC and Shift-JIS. I did many hacks, and then we can use Shift-JIS on Pine3.89 now. I'm still hacking for another Japanese character sets. I know about Japanese characters, but don't know about Chinese characters. Please let me know about Chinese characters on internet. I will try to hack for Chinese characters. To pine staff, Is there any problem that I will hack pine for asian characters? --- Takashi Tsujino e-mail: tsujino@kgupyr.kwansei.ac.jp Information Processing Research Center Kwansei Gakuin University, JAPAN From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 29 06:42:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05125; Wed, 29 Jun 94 06:42:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02201; Wed, 29 Jun 94 06:30:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02195; Wed, 29 Jun 94 06:30:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qIzLm-00000FC; Wed, 29 Jun 94 06:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pgreen@csn.org (Phillip Green) Subject: Sent as root??? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 13:03:49 GMT It seems all the mail I send to users is sent by root??? Can anyone help with this one??? -- Phil Green pgreen@csn.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 29 07:30:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06104; Wed, 29 Jun 94 07:30:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18155; Wed, 29 Jun 94 07:22:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18141; Wed, 29 Jun 94 07:21:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJ05u-00000FC; Wed, 29 Jun 94 06:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oli@odb.rhein-main.de (Oliver Boehmer) Subject: More header fields w/ pine-3.89 Date: 29 Jun 1994 15:39:36 +0200 Message-Id: <2urtio$585@odb.rhein-main.de> Hi! Has someone hacked pine in order to be able to use more header fields (Reply-To:, Precedence, Priority, etc) or did I miss something? oli -- Oliver Boehmer, Frankfurt - Germany oli@rhein-main.de Individual Network - Rhein-Main-Area (voice) 069/39048413 Q: How many Zen buddhists does it take to change a light bulb? A: Two. One to change it and one to not change it. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 29 08:02:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06819; Wed, 29 Jun 94 08:02:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03483; Wed, 29 Jun 94 07:52:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03477; Wed, 29 Jun 94 07:52:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJ0a8-00000DC; Wed, 29 Jun 94 07:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tmeush1@umbc.edu (Tim Meushaw) Subject: Re: how to get rid of pico? Date: 29 Jun 1994 14:25:29 GMT Message-Id: <2us08p$eqe@news.umbc.edu> References: <2url5k$3in@karhu.Helsinki.FI> Olli Vinberg (vinberg@cc.Helsinki.FI) wrote: : So what I'm asking is: Is there a way to bind that alt.editor function : to some other control-key? or maybe make pine use some other editor (vi : in my case) instead of the horrid pico? This topic came up a few months ago, I believe. The newest version of Pine, v.3.90, will have as an option the ability to change the default editor to something else (in my case, I prefer Emacs, but that's another story), instead of having to press obscene control characters to get to it; it would completely replace pico. Which means I can't wait for our system to get it! :-) -- ------------------------ Timothy A. Meushaw (tmeush1@gl.umbc.edu) University of Maryland, Baltimore County "May whatever god you believe in have mercy on your soul." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 29 08:17:13 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07293; Wed, 29 Jun 94 08:17:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18914; Wed, 29 Jun 94 08:07:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18908; Wed, 29 Jun 94 08:07:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJ0pB-00000LC; Wed, 29 Jun 94 07:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: noel@ac.wfunet.wfu.edu (Noel Hunter) Subject: NFS mounting /usr/mail on hp Date: 29 Jun 1994 14:32:34 GMT Message-Id: <2us0m2$5vf@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> I have tried to NFS mount the /usr/mail directory on an HP9000 running hp-ux 9.0. The Pine tech notes imply that this shold work fairly well, however, whenever I try to run pine on the mounted file system, it simply hangs up forever, and has to be killed from another session. it then becomes a "zombie" process. The problem seems to have something to do with file locking. When pine hangs up, the mail file cannot be accessed even after the /usr/mail area is unmounted. I had to rename the file and copy over the contents before pine would open it again. I checked for lock files, and find only the .\usr\mail\username file. Deleting it has no effect. Any recommendations about how to get this to work will be greatly appreciated. -- * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 29 09:06:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09559; Wed, 29 Jun 94 09:06:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20138; Wed, 29 Jun 94 08:57:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20132; Wed, 29 Jun 94 08:57:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJ1bz-00000DC; Wed, 29 Jun 94 08:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: skoop+@pitt.edu (James W Gourgoutis) Subject: cancelling the saving of outgoing mail... Date: 29 Jun 1994 15:24:16 GMT Message-Id: <2us3n1$gv1@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> I think that this subject has come up before, but I didn't catch it then. Sorry for the repetition, if that is the case. I was wondering if there was any way of getting around the default function of saving a copy of outgoing mail to the folder "sent-mail". Ideally, I'd like to be prompted at the end of each outgoing message, asking if I would like to save the message or not. I find my sent-mail folder rapidly filling up, and I'd like some way of managing it better. Thanks very much for any info! Jim. -- James Gourgoutis [skoop+@pitt.edu] -- ,o "Why am I so late? Graduate School of Mechanical Engineering -- -\<, I couldn't decide University of Pittsburgh / Pittsburgh, PA -- ( )/( ) which bike to ride!" ===============================(BOB#3068)==================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 29 11:23:07 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14582; Wed, 29 Jun 94 11:23:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08298; Wed, 29 Jun 94 11:11:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from netcom10.netcom.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08292; Wed, 29 Jun 94 11:11:17 -0700 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id LAA16834; Wed, 29 Jun 1994 11:10:24 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 11:10:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Schow-Backstage Productions Subject: How to put newsgroups into pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I am trying to get pine to show my subscribed newsgroups, but having a little trouble with that. Anyone that can help me? -steve ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you sjs@netcom.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... (415) 354-4908 | Have I given you a clue......? 800-722-2007x4908 | - Baloo the Bear ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 29 11:47:49 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15493; Wed, 29 Jun 94 11:47:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24097; Wed, 29 Jun 94 11:35:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24091; Wed, 29 Jun 94 11:35:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJ47D-00000FC; Wed, 29 Jun 94 11:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lyn6@ellis.uchicago.edu (caitrin lynch) Subject: Help with Remote Inbox Message-Id: <1994Jun29.172342.5943@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 17:23:42 GMT I am using Pine on a Linux box (Unix for 386 etc.), and am trying to read mail posted to my University account from home over a slip connection. However, even though I have the .pinerc file setup with the address of the remote INBOX it won't work. I get the message "can't connect to midway.uchicago.edu,143." The most likely reason is that to connect the mail server wants to know my id and password. Is it possible for Pine to send this info to the server? If not, any other suggestions for mail with this setup would be appreciated. Nick -- ------------------------ lyn6@midway.uchicago.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 29 12:31:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17761; Wed, 29 Jun 94 12:31:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09931; Wed, 29 Jun 94 12:16:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09925; Wed, 29 Jun 94 12:16:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJ4kz-00000FC; Wed, 29 Jun 94 11:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: mh folders Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 10:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: To quote from the author of the MH driver: On Wed, 18 May 1994, Mark Crispin wrote: > Please make sure you are accessing mh folders correctly. > > In the new read/write mh driver, mh folders have their own namespace; they are > not referenced as filenames. > > An mh folder name consists of the string #mh/ followed by the name as a path > name under ~/Mail. For example, the name #mh/blurdybloop/owatagusiam refers > to the mh folder which is the directory ~/Mail/blurdybloop/owatagusiam/ > > Also, you must have a .mh_profile file in your home directory. If there is a > path specifier in the .mh_profile file, it overrides the default Mail path > which is used in building mh names. > > The reason for this naming change is that in the future, directories will be > openable as well as files. This means that a way needs to exist to > distinguish mh access from ordinary file/directory access. > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 29 Jun 1994, Edgar Nielsen wrote: > David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: > > : Pine 3.90 will include support for MH folders by default. It is also > : possible to build Pine 3.89 with the latest IMAP toolkit to get the new > : driver.... > > I just recompiled pine 3.89 with IMAP 3.3 instead of the regular IMAP. > However, that doesn't seem to do anything, at least not automatically. > How do I tell pine in my .pinerc that I want to use MH style mailboxes? > Just giving a directory as a folder name is rejected. > > Edgar Nielsen > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 29 12:34:09 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17868; Wed, 29 Jun 94 12:34:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25201; Wed, 29 Jun 94 12:24:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25193; Wed, 29 Jun 94 12:24:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJ4se-00000LC; Wed, 29 Jun 94 12:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tmeush1@umbc.edu (Tim Meushaw) Subject: Re: cancelling the saving of outgoing mail... Date: 29 Jun 1994 17:06:15 GMT Message-Id: <2us9m7$g4l@news.umbc.edu> References: <2us3n1$gv1@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> There is a line in your .pinerc that states "default-fcc=". It's probably set at sent-mail right now. If you change that to read default-fcc="" That will fix the problem. I don't know of a way to have it prompt you if you want to save it...maybe if you specify the sent-mail file to be a script of some sort. Any one else want to take a crack at this answer? I mean, it works for forwarding files.... -- ------------------------ Timothy A. Meushaw (tmeush1@gl.umbc.edu) University of Maryland, Baltimore County "May whatever god you believe in have mercy on your soul." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 29 13:38:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20448; Wed, 29 Jun 94 13:38:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11590; Wed, 29 Jun 94 13:31:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11584; Wed, 29 Jun 94 13:30:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJ5ud-00000DC; Wed, 29 Jun 94 13:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Help with Remote Inbox Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 11:12:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994Jun29.172342.5943@midway.uchicago.edu> Actually, it looks like the problem is that midway.uchicago.edu does not have an IMAP server installed. You will be prompted for your account and password after Pine successfully contacts the IMAP server. Imapd in included in the Pine source distribution, or you can get the IMAP toolkit from ftp.cac.washington.edu int he file mail/imap.tar.Z. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 29 Jun 1994, caitrin lynch wrote: > I am using Pine on a Linux box (Unix for 386 etc.), and am trying to read > mail posted to my University account from home over a slip connection. > However, even though I have the .pinerc file setup with the address of > the remote INBOX it won't work. I get the message "can't connect to > midway.uchicago.edu,143." The most likely reason is that to connect the > mail server wants to know my id and password. Is it possible for Pine to > send this info to the server? If not, any other suggestions for mail with > this setup would be appreciated. > > Nick > > -- > > ------------------------ > lyn6@midway.uchicago.edu > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 29 13:44:23 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20697; Wed, 29 Jun 94 13:44:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26979; Wed, 29 Jun 94 13:34:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26973; Wed, 29 Jun 94 13:34:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJ5yI-00000FC; Wed, 29 Jun 94 13:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: matthewn@uiuc.edu Subject: dictionaries Date: 29 Jun 1994 18:13:06 GMT Message-Id: <2usdji$r9d@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Is there a way (w/3.89) to customize the dictionary? -- Matt Hewn -- Information is not knowledge; knowledge is not wisdom; wisdom is not truth. Truth is absolute. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 29 14:59:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23447; Wed, 29 Jun 94 14:59:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13365; Wed, 29 Jun 94 14:49:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13359; Wed, 29 Jun 94 14:49:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJ7AV-00000DC; Wed, 29 Jun 94 14:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: HELP! Filtering incoming mail Date: 29 Jun 1994 20:06:21 GMT Message-Id: <2usk7t$lkn@nwfocus.wa.com> References: <9406281413.AA06666@mx2.cac.washington.edu> <2uq8l3$b0m@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> Here's yet another list of instructions for setting up filter. USING ELM'S FILTER PROGRAM TO FILTER INCOMING MAIL ================================================== 1] Note the full path for filter by typing: which filter If your system doesn't have filter ask your sys admin to install it. 2] Note the full path of your home directory by typing: cd pwd 3] Create ~/.elm/filter-rules cd mkdir .elm cd .elm pico filter-rules 4] Enter a modified version the following in your ~/.elm/filter-rules: if (to contains "seasigi") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/INBOX.seasigi" if (to contains "lynx-dev") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/INBOX.lynx-dev" if (to contains "www-talk") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/INBOX.www-talk" if (to contains "www-announce") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/INBOX.www-announce" if (to contains "faq-maintainers") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/INBOX.faq-maintainers" Replace /j/nancym with your home directory path (see step 2). Replace /Mail with the name of the directory where your mail folders are stored. Pine and Unix mail use /mail (lower case m) and Elm uses /Mail (upper case M). 5] To see what the filter rules will do type the following at your Unix prompt: filter -r 6] Create a ~/.forward file by typing: cd pico .forward 7] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.forward: "|/usr/local/bin/filter -o /j/nancym/.elm/filter-errors" Note you do want to include the quotes and you want to replace /usr/local/bin with the correct path for filter (see step 1) and replace /j/nancym with your home directory path (see step 2). 8] Send yourself an email message to make sure that regular messages get through to your inbox. 9] Regularly look at ~/.elm/filterlog and filter-errors to make sure things are working. Also you probably want to regularly delete these files so they don't fill up your disk space! FOR MORE INFO SEE: man filter |less comp.mail.elm Elm Filter Guide I hope this helps. Please send me any suggestions for improving it - updated versions will be on ftp://ftp.ii.com/pub/ii/Internet/filtering_mail. -Nancy -- Nancy McGough, Infinite Ink From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 29 15:35:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24774; Wed, 29 Jun 94 15:35:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29450; Wed, 29 Jun 94 15:25:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29444; Wed, 29 Jun 94 15:25:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJ7iE-00000FC; Wed, 29 Jun 94 15:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: labmas@u.washington.edu (Lab Master) Subject: Re: HELP! Filtering incoming mail Date: 29 Jun 1994 19:51:05 GMT Message-Id: <2usjb9$b0t@news.u.washington.edu> References: <9406281413.AA06666@mx2.cac.washington.edu> wrote: >David, what you're saying here is great news, but I'm afraid I still need >some help (I'm quite new at this, and just learning as I go along). > >1.So far, I've read man filter and from what I understand, I need to write a >filter-rules file, which is placed in my $HOME/.elm/ directory. I'm >getting my messages from a mail-list named Chile-heads, so I wrote this >file with one line: > > rules = if (from = Chile-heads@chile.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu) then save > Chile-heads Here's what's in my ~/.elm/filter-rules file: (~ is shorthand for $HOME) if (to contains "RXYZ@") then forward "RXYZ@UMAB.BITNET" if (to contains "ABC") then forward "ABC@UFRJ.BITNET" if (to contains "DEF") then save "~/mail/DEF-Inbox" if (to contains "GHI") then save "~/mail/GHI-Inbox" if (to contains "JKL") then save "~/JKL-Inbox" if (to contains "@") then save "~/Inbox" Explanation: Lines 1 and 2... couldn't get off the mailing lists, and the listowners wouldn't respond to my messages, so now I'm bouncing anything from those lists back to the list. Lines 3, 4, and 5... all are high-volume mailing lists, so I put those into their own "Inboxes." By the way, I *do* *not* add these into the .pinerc file, since they are not relevant to my Real Job (tm), and I don't want to be notified when there's new mail in them (there's *always* new mail in them... they're high volume). Line 6 is because on our system, something is screwed up, and all mail that didn't fit into rules 1-5 went into an ~/EMERGENCY_MBOX file, and I didn't like that. >2.Now what do I do next? Do I go into .pinerc and write: > > incoming-folders=Chile-heads filter/$HOME/mail/Chile-heads (?) Prbably. I don't... see above (rules 3-5). >Do I have to make any mention of my default INBOX, where I still want >"regular" messages to be placed? Maybe. I do... see above (rule 6). >3.I have seen references to a .forward file somewhere, but I'm have no idea >what that file should contain, and where to put it? You put it in your home directory: ~/.forward. Here's what's in mine: "|/usr/local/bin/filter -o ~/.elm/filter-errors" Also note that this format (I can't seem to get any others to work properly) will create (in your .elm directory) files called: filter-errors, filterlog, and filtersum. Filterlog and filtersum keep on growing and growing and growing and growing, so that eventually you need to delete them. Filterlog is *especially* bad. I keep mine until it's about 0.5 meg, then rm it, *AND THEN I CREATE A NEW ONE*. An empty file (one line, or a 0), just so that filter can have a file... it's pretty finnicky. If there isn't a file for it, it starts putting all your mail back in that !@!$#!@ EMERGENCY_MBOX file again. >This probably is very elementary for those of you who've done this >already, but I must say that it is very confusing for me. The >instructions that come with filter, procmail, and pine are all so >cryptic, no matter hw many times I pore over them. Trust me, I've been doing it for a while, and it's still pretty cryptic! I've had lots of great help from the help desk and system operators here at the University. (Keep up the good work, people!) Hope this helped a little. --Lab Master From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 29 15:41:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24950; Wed, 29 Jun 94 15:41:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29623; Wed, 29 Jun 94 15:33:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail.crl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29617; Wed, 29 Jun 94 15:33:02 -0700 Received: from crl.crl.com (crl.com) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA27691 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 29 Jun 1994 15:30:39 -0700 Received: by crl.crl.com id AA20318 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 29 Jun 1994 15:30:38 -0700 From: San Francisco Airport Message-Id: <199406292230.AA20318@crl.crl.com> Subject: Which Mircophone version To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 15:30:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 345 I was hoping someone could help me pick which MicroPhone version to buy. Pine help says for printing and receiving Mac users should buy MicroPhone 2, version 4.0. The latest versions are MicroPhone Pro 2.0 and MicroPhone 2, versrion 5.0. Which one will work better? I would appreciate any advice Anton Goldman Bureau of Exhibitions, SFIA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 29 16:47:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27461; Wed, 29 Jun 94 16:47:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15809; Wed, 29 Jun 94 16:40:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15803; Wed, 29 Jun 94 16:40:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJ8rR-00000DC; Wed, 29 Jun 94 16:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: mh folders Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 13:25:11 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: MH folders are referenced in a different way than other folders. The syntax is #mh#folder. The ~/.mh_profile file is consulted to get the MH path, otherwise ~/Mail is used. For example, #mh#foo becomes ~/Mail/foo if you are using the default path. You must have a .mh_profile file (the MH program always creates it) otherwise it won't enable MH access. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 29 16:53:37 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27589; Wed, 29 Jun 94 16:53:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01426; Wed, 29 Jun 94 16:46:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01420; Wed, 29 Jun 94 16:46:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJ8wY-00000FC; Wed, 29 Jun 94 16:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: mh folders Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 14:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Correction, the syntax is #mh/folder. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 29 Jun 1994, Mark Crispin wrote: > MH folders are referenced in a different way than other folders. > > The syntax is #mh#folder. The ~/.mh_profile file is consulted to get the MH > path, otherwise ~/Mail is used. For example, #mh#foo becomes ~/Mail/foo if > you are using the default path. You must have a .mh_profile file (the MH > program always creates it) otherwise it won't enable MH access. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 29 17:06:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28556; Wed, 29 Jun 94 17:06:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16124; Wed, 29 Jun 94 16:55:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16118; Wed, 29 Jun 94 16:55:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJ97H-00000HC; Wed, 29 Jun 94 16:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: HELP! Filtering incoming mail Date: 29 Jun 1994 22:56:44 GMT Message-Id: <2usu7c$3gb@nwfocus.wa.com> References: <9406281413.AA06666@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Here's yet another list of instructions for setting up filter. USING ELM'S FILTER PROGRAM TO FILTER INCOMING MAIL ================================================== 1] Note the full path for filter by typing: which filter If your system doesn't have filter ask your sys admin to install it. 2] Note the full path of your home directory by typing: cd pwd 3] Create ~/.elm/filter-rules cd mkdir .elm cd .elm pico filter-rules 4] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.elm/filter-rules: if (to contains "seasigi") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/INBOX.seasigi" if (to contains "lynx-dev") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/INBOX.lynx-dev" if (to contains "www-talk") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/INBOX.www-talk" if (to contains "www-announce") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/INBOX.www-announce" Replace /j/nancym with your home directory path (see step 2). Replace /Mail with the name of the directory where your mail folders are stored. Pine and Unix mail use /mail (lower case m) and Elm uses /Mail (upper case M). Note that ``to contains...'' means either the To or Cc header contains... 5] To see what the filter rules will do type the following at your Unix prompt: filter -r 6] Create a ~/.forward file by typing: cd pico .forward 7] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.forward: "|/usr/local/bin/filter -o /j/nancym/.elm/filter-errors" Note you do want to include the quotes and you want to replace /usr/local/bin with the correct path for filter (see step 1) and replace /j/nancym with your home directory path (see step 2). Note that on some systems you will need to make your .forward world readable and your home directory world searchable in order for the mail transport agent to "see" it. To do this type: cd chmod 644 .forward chmod +x . 8] Send yourself an email message to make sure that regular messages get through to your default inbox. 9] Regularly look at ~/.elm/filterlog and filter-errors to make sure things are working. You can automatically check filter-errors each time you log in by putting the following in your .login: tail ~/.elm/filter-errors Also you probably want to regularly delete filterlog and filter-errors so they don't fill up your disk space! FOR MORE INFO SEE: man filter |less comp.mail.elm Elm Filter Guide I hope this helps. Please send me any suggestions for improving it - updated versions will be on ftp://ftp.ii.com/pub/ii/Internet/filtering_mail. -Nancy -- Nancy McGough, Infinite Ink From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 29 17:14:59 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28935; Wed, 29 Jun 94 17:14:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01996; Wed, 29 Jun 94 17:05:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01984; Wed, 29 Jun 94 17:05:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJ9F9-00000DC; Wed, 29 Jun 94 16:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbp3@Ra.MsState.Edu (Jay B. Parker) Subject: Re: HELP! Filtering incoming mail Date: 29 Jun 1994 18:17:27 -0500 Message-Id: <2usve7$cgl@Ra.MsState.Edu> References: <9406281413.AA06666@mx2.cac.washington.edu> <2usjb9$b0t@news.u.washington.edu> +--- Lab Master writes: | wrote: | >2.Now what do I do next? Do I go into .pinerc and write: | > incoming-folders=Chile-heads filter/$HOME/mail/Chile-heads (?) | Prbably. I don't... see above (rules 3-5). Close, but leave out the 'filter'. Mine looks like this, where 'Mail' is a subdirectory off my home directory: incoming-folders=ERC Mail/Inbox/erc-inbox, TOPTEN Mail/Inbox/topten-inbox | >Do I have to make any mention of my default INBOX, where I still want | >"regular" messages to be placed? | Maybe. I do... see above (rule 6). No... the 'incoming-folders' section is for folders *other* than your default INBOX that receive new messages (quoting from the .pinerc comments). | Also note that this format (I can't seem to get any others to work | properly) will create (in your .elm directory) files called: | filter-errors, filterlog, and filtersum. The option '-q' (in the .forward file) *should* turn off the logs... I assume this is what you mean by the "other formats" you couldn't get to work, but I thought I would mention it for the benefit of others reading this. | Filterlog and filtersum keep on growing and growing and growing and | growing, so that eventually you need to delete them. Filterlog is | *especially* bad. I keep mine until it's about 0.5 meg, then rm it, *AND | THEN I CREATE A NEW ONE*. An empty file (one line, or a 0), just so that | filter can have a file... it's pretty finnicky. If there isn't a file for | it, it starts putting all your mail back in that !@!$#!@ EMERGENCY_MBOX | file again. Running filter with the option flag -c from your prompt will clear the log files without deleting them. NOTE: The -c flag must be paired with one of the "summarize action" flags, -s or -S. I.e., to clear the logs type ('%' represents your prompt): % filter -cS ... for info about every piece of mail filtered or % filter -cs ... for just a few percentages NOTE-the-second: You can use the -s or -S flags without -c to see the summary without clearing the logfiles. | >This probably is very elementary for those of you who've done this | >already, but I must say that it is very confusing for me. The | >instructions that come with filter, procmail, and pine are all so | >cryptic, no matter hw many times I pore over them. | | Trust me, I've been doing it for a while, and it's still pretty cryptic! *Amen*. -- Jay B. Parker -- Mississippi State University -- jbp3@Ra.MsState.Edu =NSF=Engineering=Research=Center=for=Computational=Field=Simulation= "But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep."-Frost From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 29 18:45:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01165; Wed, 29 Jun 94 18:45:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18201; Wed, 29 Jun 94 18:36:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from internal.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18195; Wed, 29 Jun 94 18:36:08 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA01821; Thu, 30 Jun 94 09:36:18 +0800 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 09:36:06 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Kanji/Hanzi in pine? (fwd) To: Takashi TSUJINO Cc: jczhang@garnet.berkeley.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Wed, 29 Jun 1994, Takashi TSUJINO wrote: > On Tue, 28 Jun 1994 jczhang@garnet.berkeley.edu wrote: >=20 > > Yes, I definitely would like to see the availability of Chinese (Hanzi)= =20 > > version of pine. And, as a computer consultant at UC Berkeley, I know i= t is > > the desire of many other users. Please go ahead and develop the program= =20 > > and I am sure it will be appreciated by a large number of Chinese=20 > > speakers in this country. Please keep us informed about your progress.= =20 > > Thanks. >=20 > In Japanese, there are 3 major Japanese character sets, JIS, EUC and=20 > Shift-JIS. I did many hacks, and then we can use Shift-JIS on Pine3.89 n= ow. >=20 > I'm still hacking for another Japanese character sets. I know about=20 > Japanese characters, but don't know about Chinese characters. Please let= =20 > me know about Chinese characters on internet. I will try to hack for=20 > Chinese characters. >=20 > To pine staff, > Is there any problem that I will hack pine for asian characters? =09Well, I'm running pine on cxterm here in Taiwan. There the 2 most common character sets that I'm aware of are Hanzi and Big5. Without any hacking to pine I can send Big5. For example, here is my wife's name..= . which is about the only thing I can enter in Chinese.... :-) =B7=A8=A8q=BD=AE =09We are working on converting all the displays to show Chinese characters...using Big5. =09Because of the large memory requirements of both pc-pine and=20 the Chinese DOS system I've not tested the same with pc-pine. Edward M. Greshko=09=09=09Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce =09=09=09=09=09Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287=09=096/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197=09=09=09Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 29 23:09:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05972; Wed, 29 Jun 94 23:09:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07647; Wed, 29 Jun 94 22:55:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from weber.ucsd.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07641; Wed, 29 Jun 94 22:55:24 -0700 Received: (from corrigan@localhost) on tty1si7 by weber.ucsd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA10781; Wed, 29 Jun 1994 22:55:23 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 22:55:23 -0700 From: "Michael J. Corrigan" Message-Id: <199406300555.WAA10781@weber.ucsd.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: separating out mail from mailing lists using procmail To filter mail from *this* list using procmail what is required is these 3 lines in your .procmailrc file (not a PhD.) :0: Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu mail/pine More detailed information: 0. If procmail is installed on your Unix system (find out just like for filter: i.e. use "which procmail"; sample output: /usr/local/bin/procmail) 1. Create the file .forward in your home directory with the line: "|IFS=' '&&exec /usr/local/bin/procmail -f-||exit 75 #YOUR_USERNAME" Now procmail will be in use. At this point all mail is still delivered to your system mailbox. 2. Now to start really using procmail create the file .procmailrc in your home directory. The .procmailrc file is comprised of little recipes to divert mailing lists to separate inboxes. These recipes key in on some characteristic mail header of mail from the list in question. For example this 3 line recipe in .procmailrc puts all mail from a specific list into the inbox "anthro-l" and those messages are not sent to the regular inbox :0: <--- marks start of recipe *^Sender: ANTHRO-L.* <--- the selection condition mail/anthro-l <--- where to put selections then that mail can be read separately with the command "pine -f anthro-l" or switching folders within pine. The above recipe can be duplicated over and over just changing the Sender for the list in question. Other headers besides Sender can be used. A simple format for the .procmailrc is this pattern: :0: * HEADER:.*characteristic_pattern_in_mail_header.* mail/folder :0: * HEADER:.*characteristic_pattern2_in_mail_header.* mail/folder2 :0: * HEADER:.*characteristic_pattern3_in_mail_header.* mail/folder3 etc. All mail not picked up by one of the recipes is delivered as though procmail was not in use, i.e. still goes to the regular inbox. procmail has a mailing list for questions about procmail. Mail to procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de with Subject: subscribe If procmail is not installed ask your system administrator to install it or get it yourself by anonymous ftp to: ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de:pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz Other things procmail can do: Throw out all mail from somebody: :0 *^From j-blow@someplace /dev/null Automatically send back a file based on getting mail with a specific subject: (This is just for illustration) :0 *!FROM_DAEMON *^Subject: send faq |(formail -r -A"Precedence: junk" -I"Subject: FAQ File";\ cat FAQ) | $SENDMAIL -t An entire list/archive server is written in the procmail language called SmartList available in the same ftp location as procmail. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 30 00:30:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07330; Thu, 30 Jun 94 00:30:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08854; Thu, 30 Jun 94 00:22:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08848; Thu, 30 Jun 94 00:21:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJG2I-00000QC; Wed, 29 Jun 94 23:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: altschh@iia.org (Howard Altschuler) Subject: Threads are out of control Date: 29 Jun 1994 04:23:14 GMT Message-Id: <2uqsvi$94i@ankh.iia.org> Subject: Threads are out of control Newsgroups: iia.general Organization: International Internet Association. Summary: Keywords: Let's say I read a thread with ten messages. Whenever a new message is posted to a thread, all previous ten messages are shown next time I log on, plus whatever new messages. That means I have to scroll through all the old messages to get the new messages. Is there a way to go directly to whatever new messages there are in the thread? -- -- Howard Altschuler, New Jersey, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 30 01:12:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08404; Thu, 30 Jun 94 01:12:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09476; Thu, 30 Jun 94 01:02:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09462; Thu, 30 Jun 94 01:02:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJGhY-00000VC; Thu, 30 Jun 94 00:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbp3@Ra.MsState.Edu (Jay B. Parker) Subject: Re: HELP! Filtering incoming mail Date: 29 Jun 1994 18:29:39 -0500 Message-Id: <2ut053$d5u@Ra.MsState.Edu> References: <9406281413.AA06666@mx2.cac.washington.edu> <2usjb9$b0t@news.u.washington.edu> <2usve7$cgl@ra.msstate.edu> And now, having reached the extent of my limited knowledge, I have a question for the *real* filter gurus... :^). I'm going to be away from my account for the greater part of the rest of the summer, and was planning to use the 'vacation' program to send out a short autoreply to some of my mail. The key word here being *some*... does anyone out there have any ideas as to how to forward a copy of the mail I *would* have just kept in my INBOX to the vacation program... and *still* get a copy of it in my INBOX? I've figured out how to do one or the other, but not both. Any suggestions...? -Jay- (wondering if I should have taken this to the elm group...) -- Jay B. Parker -- Mississippi State University -- jbp3@Ra.MsState.Edu =NSF=Engineering=Research=Center=for=Computational=Field=Simulation= "But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep."-Frost From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 30 01:15:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08467; Thu, 30 Jun 94 01:15:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23784; Thu, 30 Jun 94 01:02:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23778; Thu, 30 Jun 94 01:02:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJGld-00000DC; Thu, 30 Jun 94 00:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rak@netaxs.com (nobody special) Subject: Re: Threads are out of control Date: 29 Jun 1994 23:00:37 GMT Message-Id: <2usuel$io7@netaxs.com> References: <2uqsvi$94i@ankh.iia.org> Howard Altschuler (altschh@iia.org) wrote: : Subject: Threads are out of control : Newsgroups: iia.general : Organization: International Internet Association. : Summary: : Keywords: : Let's say I read a thread with ten messages. Whenever a new message is : posted to a thread, all previous ten messages are shown next time I log : on, plus whatever new messages. That means I have to scroll through all : the old messages to get the new messages. Is there a way to go directly : to whatever new messages there are in the thread? While this has nothing to do with pine (you didn't mention anything about using pine as your newsreader, so I'm not assuming you are), I'll give you an answer anyway. If you're using tin as your newsreader, the tab key will jump to the next unread article. Spacebar will go to the next article, previously read or not. The return key will skip to the next thread, but won't mark skipped articles in the previous thread as having been read. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 30 01:18:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08542; Thu, 30 Jun 94 01:18:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23900; Thu, 30 Jun 94 01:07:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23894; Thu, 30 Jun 94 01:07:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJGpM-00000HC; Thu, 30 Jun 94 00:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nancym@chinook.halcyon.com (Nancy McGough) Subject: cmsg cancel <2usk7t$lkn@nwfocus.wa.com> Control: cancel <2usk7t$lkn@nwfocus.wa.com> Date: 29 Jun 1994 22:37:05 GMT Message-Id: <2ust2h$206@nwfocus.wa.com> cancel <2usk7t$lkn@nwfocus.wa.com> in newsgroup comp.mail.pine -- Nancy McGough, Infinite Ink From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 30 01:50:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09290; Thu, 30 Jun 94 01:50:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24402; Thu, 30 Jun 94 01:41:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24388; Thu, 30 Jun 94 01:40:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJHOp-000005C; Thu, 30 Jun 94 01:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pls@crl.com (Paul Schauble) Subject: Re: HELP! Filtering incoming mail Message-Id: <2ut81l$43e@crl.crl.com> Date: 30 Jun 94 01:44:21 GMT References: <9406281413.AA06666@mx2.cac.washington.edu> <2usu7c$3gb@nwfocus.wa.com> Where can I get a copy of the Elm Filtering Guide? ++PLS From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 30 03:44:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11564; Thu, 30 Jun 94 03:44:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25977; Thu, 30 Jun 94 03:36:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25971; Thu, 30 Jun 94 03:36:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJJCm-000005C; Thu, 30 Jun 94 03:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: AIX version of pine? Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 19:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2ut5uk$qfa@cronkite.seas.gwu.edu> The current Pine distribution contains two AIX ports: aix AIX/370 (on mainframes) a32 AIX 3.2 on RS/6000 The Pine distribution is available from ftp.cac.washington.edu in the mail directory. There is also a pre-compiled executable for AIX 3.2 in the mail/unix-bin directory. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 30 Jun 1994, Joerg Heckel wrote: > Hi, > > is there a AIX version of pine available and where can I get it? > > Thank you. > -joerg > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 30 05:20:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14170; Thu, 30 Jun 94 05:20:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13294; Thu, 30 Jun 94 05:11:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13288; Thu, 30 Jun 94 05:11:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJKgf-000005C; Thu, 30 Jun 94 04:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: joerg@seas.gwu.edu (Joerg Heckel) Subject: AIX version of pine? Date: 30 Jun 1994 01:08:36 GMT Message-Id: <2ut5uk$qfa@cronkite.seas.gwu.edu> Hi, is there a AIX version of pine available and where can I get it? Thank you. -joerg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 30 06:33:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15628; Thu, 30 Jun 94 06:33:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28572; Thu, 30 Jun 94 06:21:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28566; Thu, 30 Jun 94 06:21:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJLnm-000005C; Thu, 30 Jun 94 06:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Shareware Postscript Converter Date: 30 Jun 1994 03:59:36 GMT Message-Id: <2utfv8$oca@nwfocus.wa.com> References: <1994Jun23.203108.26889@nysernet.org> mnewell@lupine.nsi.nasa.gov ("Michael C. Newell") writes: >There are MANY of them out there; I use "text2ps" which is available at a >large number of sites (locatable via Archie.) Another one is enscript, also locatable via Archie. -Nancy -- Nancy McGough, Infinite Ink From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 30 08:01:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17433; Thu, 30 Jun 94 08:01:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15859; Thu, 30 Jun 94 07:52:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15853; Thu, 30 Jun 94 07:51:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJNCU-000005C; Thu, 30 Jun 94 07:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: HELP! Filtering incoming mail Date: 30 Jun 1994 04:58:13 GMT Message-Id: <2utjd5$rug@nwfocus.wa.com> References: <9406281413.AA06666@mx2.cac.washington.edu> <2usjb9$b0t@news.u.washington.edu> <2usve7$cgl@ra.msstate.edu> <2ut053$d5u@Ra.MsState.Edu> jbp3@Ra.MsState.Edu (Jay B. Parker) writes: >I'm going to be away from my account for the greater part of the rest of >the summer, and was planning to use the 'vacation' program to send out a >short autoreply to some of my mail. The key word here being *some*... >does anyone out there have any ideas as to how to forward a copy of the >mail I *would* have just kept in my INBOX to the vacation program... and >*still* get a copy of it in my INBOX? I've figured out how to do one or >the other, but not both. Any suggestions...? Here's what I did when I was on vacation: ---begin excerpt of ~/.elm/filter-rules--- # Next line prevents infinite loops when you send messages to yourself! if (from matches /^nancym$|^nancym@ii.com$/) then save "~/Mail/INBOX.fromme" # NOTE 1: executec means "execute and copy message to INBOX" # NOTE 2: You can replace /usr/local/bin/elm with another MUA like /usr/ucb/mail if (to contains "nancym") then executec "/usr/local/bin/elm -s 'I am in Europe!' %r < /j/nancym/.vacation.msg" # Messages that fall through to here get put in INBOX.novacmsg so you know that # these folks didn't get a vacation message. always save "~/Mail/INBOX.novacmsg" ---end excerpt of ~/.elm/filter-rules--- Hope this helps, Nancy -- Nancy McGough, Infinite Ink From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 30 08:43:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18887; Thu, 30 Jun 94 08:43:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00821; Thu, 30 Jun 94 08:22:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00815; Thu, 30 Jun 94 08:22:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJNeb-000005C; Thu, 30 Jun 94 08:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ronophir@ccsg.tau.ac.il (ophir ron) Subject: top to bottom Message-Id: <1994Jun30.060505.16735@aristo.tau.ac.il> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 06:05:05 GMT I have the same question as steve asked. Which key moves the cursor from top to bottom and which key does the opposite. Thanks in addvance, -- --------------------------------- Ron Ophir | Tel: 03-6408646 | e-mail: ronophir@ccsg.tau.ac.il | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 30 10:20:54 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23240; Thu, 30 Jun 94 10:20:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19299; Thu, 30 Jun 94 10:12:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19293; Thu, 30 Jun 94 10:12:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJPPD-000005C; Thu, 30 Jun 94 09:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nancym@u.washington.edu (Nancy McGough) Subject: cmsg cancel <2usk7t$lkn@nwfocus.wa.com> Control: cancel <2usk7t$lkn@nwfocus.wa.com> Date: 30 Jun 1994 15:08:08 GMT Message-Id: <2uun4o$2q2@news.u.washington.edu> cancel <2usk7t$lkn@nwfocus.wa.com> in newsgroup comp.mail.pine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 30 11:20:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25654; Thu, 30 Jun 94 11:20:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20792; Thu, 30 Jun 94 11:07:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20784; Thu, 30 Jun 94 11:07:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJQHD-000005C; Thu, 30 Jun 94 10:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccasuzi@techunix.technion.ac.il (Susan Feingold) Subject: sorting addresses by nickname Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 11:36:42 GMT Message-Id: I would like to sort the e-mail addresses in my Adressbook according to the nickname given to this address. Pine sorts by Addressee name. I do not see an option for changing this 'sort'. If anyone can help me, please write to my e-mail address below. (I'll post the answer if there seems to be a lot of interest.) Thanks. Susan Feingold D.Sc. ccasuzi@techunix.technion.ac.il Taub Computer Center phone 972-4-293696 Technion, Israel Institute of Technology fax 972-4-236212 Haifa, Israel 32000 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 30 12:25:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28530; Thu, 30 Jun 94 12:25:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06670; Thu, 30 Jun 94 12:12:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06662; Thu, 30 Jun 94 12:12:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJRGA-00000HC; Thu, 30 Jun 94 11:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dreaming@netcom.com (Derek L.) Subject: Re: cancelling the saving of outgoing mail... Message-Id: References: <2us3n1$gv1@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <2us9m7$g4l@news.umbc.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 15:49:10 GMT tmeush1@umbc.edu (Tim Meushaw) writes: >There is a line in your .pinerc that states "default-fcc=". It's >probably set at sent-mail right now. If you change that to read > default-fcc="" >That will fix the problem. I don't know of a way to have it prompt >you if you want to save it...maybe if you specify the sent-mail file >to be a script of some sort. Any one else want to take a crack at >this answer? I mean, it works for forwarding files.... You can do this interactively while composing a letter. When editing the _header_ of your message (the cursor should be in the header area, not the body), hit control-R ("rich header"). This will display the default Fcc (file carbon copy) setting. You can delete or change it as you wish. -d.d. -- dreaming@netcom.com + + + + + + "That's not a leg... that's my nipple!" -davo From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 30 16:55:14 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07652; Thu, 30 Jun 94 16:55:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28807; Thu, 30 Jun 94 16:48:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28801; Thu, 30 Jun 94 16:48:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJVbE-00000BC; Thu, 30 Jun 94 16:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com (Jason Haar) Subject: AUIS messages support? [Was: Re: mh folders] Date: 30 Jun 1994 12:28:43 GMT Message-Id: <2uudpr$9e5@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com> References: David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : Pine 3.90 will include support for MH folders by default. It is also : possible to build Pine 3.89 with the latest IMAP toolkit to get the new : driver.... How about AUIS's 'messages' support? This MUA is the King of X-based ones at the moment [biased? - never! ;-) ], and uses a similar format to mh of a top level directory with subdirs mapping to folders and files for messages. -- Cheers, Jason +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ | Jason Haar, European SysAdmin Phone: + 44 (256) 790111 | | Motorola Cellular Subscriber Fax: + 44 (256) 790519 | | Basingstoke, Hampshire | | RG24 0GY, ENGLAND Internet: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com | +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 30 17:00:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07865; Thu, 30 Jun 94 17:00:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13316; Thu, 30 Jun 94 16:53:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13310; Thu, 30 Jun 94 16:53:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJVg0-00000HC; Thu, 30 Jun 94 16:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: altitude@umich.edu (Alex Tang) Subject: Re: Shareware Postscript Converter Date: 30 Jun 1994 23:18:37 GMT Message-Id: <2uvjsd$lgd@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <1994Jun23.203108.26889@nysernet.org> <2utfv8$oca@nwfocus.wa.com> Nancy McGough (nancym@ii.com) wrote: : mnewell@lupine.nsi.nasa.gov ("Michael C. Newell") writes: : >There are MANY of them out there; I use "text2ps" which is available at a : >large number of sites (locatable via Archie.) : Another one is enscript, also locatable via Archie. Actually, enscript (at least the version 3 and up) is licensed to adobe. it's not free. ...alex... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 30 17:43:14 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09625; Thu, 30 Jun 94 17:43:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00158; Thu, 30 Jun 94 17:38:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00152; Thu, 30 Jun 94 17:38:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJWJ2-000005C; Thu, 30 Jun 94 17:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: AUIS messages support? [Was: Re: mh folders] Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 13:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2uudpr$9e5@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com> Jason, If you write the driver, we'll include it in the distribution... ;) --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 30 Jun 1994, Jason Haar wrote: > David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: > > : Pine 3.90 will include support for MH folders by default. It is also > : possible to build Pine 3.89 with the latest IMAP toolkit to get the new > : driver.... > > How about AUIS's 'messages' support? > > This MUA is the King of X-based ones at the moment [biased? - never! ;-) > ], and uses a similar format to mh of a top level directory with subdirs > mapping to folders and files for messages. > > > -- > > Cheers, > > Jason > +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ > | Jason Haar, European SysAdmin Phone: + 44 (256) 790111 | > | Motorola Cellular Subscriber Fax: + 44 (256) 790519 | > | Basingstoke, Hampshire | > | RG24 0GY, ENGLAND Internet: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com | > +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 30 22:24:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14726; Thu, 30 Jun 94 22:24:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18414; Thu, 30 Jun 94 22:19:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18408; Thu, 30 Jun 94 22:19:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJahB-000005C; Thu, 30 Jun 94 21:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scottc@uhunix2.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Scott Campbell) Subject: PC-Pine Message-Id: Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 02:46:28 GMT I have been trying to get PC-Pine running using Lantastic TCP/IP over our university's ethernet. I followed all directions but when I bring it up it tells me it cannot find a packet driver. I am using the IP version of PC-Pine. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Our computing center support staff has no idea. Thanks. -- I. Scott Campbell, Ph.D. Internet: scottc@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu Crop Management Information Spec. CBIS: (808) 956-2626 Dept. of Agronomy and Soil Sci. Univ. of Hawaii at Manoa *** All standard disclaimers apply *** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 30 23:24:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15727; Thu, 30 Jun 94 23:24:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05345; Thu, 30 Jun 94 23:19:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05339; Thu, 30 Jun 94 23:19:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJbgU-00000BC; Thu, 30 Jun 94 23:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: PC-Pine Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 21:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Does the Lantastic TCP/IP run over packet drivers? If so, which one are you running? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 1 Jul 1994, Scott Campbell wrote: > I have been trying to get PC-Pine running using Lantastic TCP/IP over > our university's ethernet. I followed all directions but when I bring it > up it tells me it cannot find a packet driver. I am using the IP version > of PC-Pine. > > Any thoughts would be appreciated. Our computing center support staff > has no idea. Thanks. > > -- > I. Scott Campbell, Ph.D. Internet: scottc@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu > Crop Management Information Spec. CBIS: (808) 956-2626 > Dept. of Agronomy and Soil Sci. > Univ. of Hawaii at Manoa *** All standard disclaimers apply *** > >