From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 1 01:16:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27391; Fri, 1 Apr 94 01:16:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22598; Fri, 1 Apr 94 00:46:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22592; Fri, 1 Apr 94 00:46:05 -0800 Received: from localhost by Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (NX5.67e/UW-NDC Revision: 2.27.MRC ) id AA00975; Fri, 1 Apr 94 00:45:51 -0800 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 00:37:38 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Crispin Subject: re: MMDF format mailboxes To: Andy Powell Cc: Pine-Info Maillist In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Wed, 30 Mar 1994 16:37:23 +0100 (BST), Andy Powell wrote: > Now the bad news... I can't get the mmdf driver to work at all on our > MMDF mailboxes. Is anyone using these drivers with MMDF update 43 (or > any other version for that matter)? The VALID macro (from mmdf.h) is > looking for a mailbox with messages separated by 4 CTRL-A's, then a > newline, then a line like "From blah blah blah". Our mailboxes here > don't look like that :-(. They just have the 4 CTRL-A's followed by a > newline - then you go straight into the message. > > I've tried making the VALID macro much simpler (i.e it just checks for > "\001\001\001\001\n") but unfortunately routines like mmdf_parse() appear > to want to do things with that non-existant From line :-(. > > I think I need some explanation of how the "From " line is being used > and whether mmdf driver routines can be written that don't rely on > having such a line at the start of each message. Do any of the other > drivers not rely on such a line? I do not have access to any MMDF systems and have had to guess what works and what does not work from contributed code. My surmise is that some MMDF systems write a standard UNIX mbox format ``From '' line after the CTRL/A's, and others do not. c-client parses a message's ``fast internal date'' from the ``From '' line. If it is not there, then there is no way to get a ``fast'' internal date. I guess it's perhaps alright to get it to the current date; it may cause false date displays in some programs that use c-client but it can't be helped. Pine should be OK though. Since I don't have access to any MMDF systems, nor have I ever gotten a straight story on how MMDF works, there isn't much more I can add; you'll probably have to do some hacking. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help out. > BTW, I've been working with the c-client libraries from imap-3.3. You > should note that both the mmdf and bezerk drivers include (different) > definitions of the VALID macro. This may account for the difficulties in > trying to use both drivers together? No, there should be no problem with having both drivers included, since only the bezerk driver includes bezerk.h and only the mmdf driver includes mmdf.h. The mmdf driver derived from the bezerk driver (if you do a diff you'll see that they are quite similar), hence the similarity in names. -- Mark -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 1 07:38:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02700; Fri, 1 Apr 94 07:38:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27562; Fri, 1 Apr 94 07:17:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27556; Fri, 1 Apr 94 07:17:39 -0800 Received: by mail.teleport.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.2) id ; Fri, 1 Apr 94 07:17 PST Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 07:18:44 -0800 (PST) From: minerva Subject: imap and saving to remote mail folders To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, all- Here I am with yet another pine/imap question: How do I save mail messages from my remote inbox to a remote mail folder? I don't want to save to my local mail folders always... The on line help doesn't seem to talk much about different ways to save things other than to mention export can be used to save to one's home directory with little mail/header information; I don't believe that's what I want. Pointers? Thanks! >>-Darci-> -- ------ Love thy enemies: they'll go crazy trying to figure out what you're up to \ --/--- Bumpersticker of the Week: "Against Abortion? Get a Vasectomy" \ \/ / Don't support discrimination -- don't support the OCA! \/\ / About Me \/ Paradise Cowgirl - minerva@teleport.com - minerva@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 1 08:18:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03705; Fri, 1 Apr 94 08:18:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19154; Fri, 1 Apr 94 08:06:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pear.wustl.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19148; Fri, 1 Apr 94 08:06:02 -0800 Received: by pear.wustl.edu (NX5.67c/NeXT-3.0-SLT/GHC) id AA11967; Fri, 1 Apr 94 10:06:55 -0600 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 10:05:20 -0600 (CST) From: "G. H. Chinoy" Subject: Viewing attachments automatically? To: Pine-Info list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I have a user that wants to view attachments automatically instead of going through (what he terms) 'the tedious process' of V)iewing things. Is there a .pinerc configuration variable of some sort? Hussain ________________________________ G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab Cupples I, Room 213 314.935.4353 Washington University in St. Louis hussain@artsci.wustl.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 1 08:58:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05275; Fri, 1 Apr 94 08:58:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29190; Fri, 1 Apr 94 08:39:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29184; Fri, 1 Apr 94 08:39:43 -0800 Received: from apus.cus.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.2] (TAP id = root) by bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Smail-3.1.28.1 #136) id m0pmmFv-000BzNC; Fri, 1 Apr 94 17:39 BST Received: by apus.cus.cam.ac.uk (Smail-3.1.28.1 #136) id m0pmmFv-0004YTC; Fri, 1 Apr 94 17:39 BST Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 17:39:39 +0100 (BST) From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: ^K cut to end of line To: David Brownlee Cc: Pine-Info Maillist In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I agree, strongly! On Wed, 30 Mar 1994, David Brownlee wrote: > Please do NOT make this part of old-growth! > > By all means make it a option, but please don't include it in > the old-growth set! > > Old-growth enables extra feature, not makes changes to the user > interface! (As I see it :) > > David > > > D.K.Brownlee@city.ac.uk. Network Analyst. Postmaster. Hostmaster. > <_.-^-._> Telephone: (+44) 71 477 8000 Ext:3757. <_.-^-._> > Snailmail:E308, City University, Northampton Sq, Islington, London EC1V 0HB. > > > ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0223-334713 +44-223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 1 09:12:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06325; Fri, 1 Apr 94 09:12:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29609; Fri, 1 Apr 94 08:57:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29600; Fri, 1 Apr 94 08:57:35 -0800 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19908; Fri, 1 Apr 94 08:57:31 -0800 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 08:57:30 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Eugene Tyurin Cc: Pine-Info list Subject: Re: How to customise pager in PINE 3.89? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Eugene, I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish, but Pine 3.90 will include a couple features that might help. The Pipe command will allow you to route a message or MIME part through a program of your choice. Mailcap will also be supported, so you can define whatever viewers or filters you want. There are some limitations in the mailcap support, so we will be interested to get some feedback from active mailcap users. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 1 Apr 1994, Eugene Tyurin wrote: > > I posted this question in comp.mail.mime couple of days ago and got no > respone, so I hope to get it here. > > I'd like to be able to invoke some shell scripts on some of my plain > text e-mail messages. It would be ideal to for me to find a way to > replace Pine's builtin text viewer with my own. How can I do this? > > Can I declare my own Attachment type - viewer pair? I tried to use > printer option, but didn't succeed because of the weird line-by-line > output. > > Thanks for help. > > -- MIME mail is welcome > Active Ingredient: Eugene Tyurin > http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu:80/~gene/plan.html > Bio-degradable, made of 100% recycled substance. > Handle with care: fragile, toxic and flammable. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 1 11:41:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11081; Fri, 1 Apr 94 11:41:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03050; Fri, 1 Apr 94 11:28:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03044; Fri, 1 Apr 94 11:28:44 -0800 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22739; Fri, 1 Apr 94 11:28:41 -0800 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 11:28:41 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: "G. H. Chinoy" Cc: Pine-Info list Subject: Re: Viewing attachments automatically? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hussain, We plan to improve the attachment viewer interface in a future release of Pine. Until then, I don't have too much to offer. Sorry. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 1 Apr 1994, G. H. Chinoy wrote: > Hi, > I have a user that wants to view attachments automatically instead > of going through (what he terms) 'the tedious process' of V)iewing things. > Is there a .pinerc configuration variable of some sort? > > Hussain > ________________________________ > G. Hussain Chinoy > Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab > Cupples I, Room 213 > 314.935.4353 > Washington University in St. Louis > hussain@artsci.wustl.edu > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 1 14:19:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16245; Fri, 1 Apr 94 14:19:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06292; Fri, 1 Apr 94 14:01:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06278; Fri, 1 Apr 94 14:01:50 -0800 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24848; Fri, 1 Apr 94 14:01:47 -0800 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 14:01:46 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: minerva Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: imap and saving to remote mail folders In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Darci, If the remote folder is in your primary folder collection, just give the folder name with the Save command. If it is in another collection listed on the folder-collections variable in your .pinerc file, you can change collections using ^N and ^P at the Save prompt. Otherwise, you can specify the full remote name as "{imapserver}folderpath". Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 1 Apr 1994, minerva wrote: > > > Hello, all- > > Here I am with yet another pine/imap question: > > How do I save mail messages from my remote inbox to a remote mail folder? > I don't want to save to my local mail folders always... > > The on line help doesn't seem to talk much about different ways to save > things other than to mention export can be used to save to one's home > directory with little mail/header information; I don't believe that's what > I want. > > Pointers? > > Thanks! > > >>-Darci-> > > -- > ------ Love thy enemies: they'll go crazy trying to figure out what you're up to > \ --/--- Bumpersticker of the Week: "Against Abortion? Get a Vasectomy" > \ \/ / Don't support discrimination -- don't support the OCA! > \/\ / About Me > \/ Paradise Cowgirl - minerva@teleport.com - minerva@netcom.com > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 1 14:54:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17633; Fri, 1 Apr 94 14:54:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28315; Fri, 1 Apr 94 14:40:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28309; Fri, 1 Apr 94 14:40:04 -0800 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25440; Fri, 1 Apr 94 14:39:50 -0800 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 14:39:50 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Kari Sutela Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: When's Pine's next Release? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Kari, This is definitely on the to-do list, but I am not sure if it will make the next release. Thanks for the suggestion! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 31 Mar 1994, Kari Sutela wrote: > If the set of new features in then next pine release is not locked, yet, > I'd like to make a suggestion: support for RFC 1522 (using non-ASCII > characters in headers). This is something our users miss badly. > > /KS From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 1 16:14:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20047; Fri, 1 Apr 94 16:14:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08714; Fri, 1 Apr 94 15:58:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08708; Fri, 1 Apr 94 15:58:09 -0800 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29115; Fri, 1 Apr 94 15:58:06 -0800 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 15:58:05 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Matt Simmons Cc: Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: ^T Question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Matt, As you have noted, Pine currently has a wee bit of trouble handling hidden directories in the browser. We have not yet come up with a solution we are completely happy with, but it is on our to-do list... Thanks for the report! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 29 Mar 1994, Matt Simmons wrote: > Since pine doesn't know how to rotate sigs yet, to read in a new one, I > have to go the ^R ^T route... Unfortunately, the only way to get into > the .sigfiles directory is to type in /home3/zarthac/.sigfiles/ then hit > ^T. Needless to say this gets annoying. Could you fix ^T so that either > I can merely type .sigfiles/ or ~/.sigfiles/ or even have it display . > files automatically? thanks > > zarthac@cs1.bradley.edu Matt Simmons Bradley University, Peoria, IL > Found in the BU Scout Personals: > "Jane--I don't want to be alone again for Valentine's Day. I want to work > this out. I was just hurt that you would sleep with my best friend ... > repeatedly ... in my bed. Actually, never mind. Go to hell. John" > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 2 05:03:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03321; Sat, 2 Apr 94 05:03:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19071; Sat, 2 Apr 94 04:48:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from brain.physics.swin.oz.au by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19065; Sat, 2 Apr 94 04:48:26 -0800 Received: by brain.physics.swin.oz.au (8.6.8/1.46aas) (from alex@localhost) id WAA10221; Sat, 2 Apr 1994 22:46:29 +1000 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 22:46:29 +1000 From: Alex A Sergejew Message-Id: <199404021246.WAA10221@brain.physics.swin.oz.au> Subject: Port of Pine 3.89 to BSDI BSD/386 ver 1.1 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Organisation: Swinburne University of Technology, Center for Applied Neurosciences X-Mailer: Sendmail/Ream v4.16c I have successfully ported pine-3.89 to run under BSDI BSD/386 version 1.1 and append the patches in the form of context diffs with respect to the distribution tree from ftp.cac.washington.edu:/mail/pine3.89.tar.Z These patches are based on the distributed "bsi" port to BSD/386 Gamma 4.1 as submitted to washington by Michael F. Santangelo , and the patches to pine3.87 posted to comp.os.386bsd.apps on Oct 31 1993 by Alex Tang Get and untar the distribution tar file, run these patches out of the pine3.89 directory, then do "build bsi" (then copy the binaries to somewhere like /usr/local/bin). It would be nice if these patches replaced those based on the obsolete BSD/386 Gamma release in the canonical Pine distribution... Alex. -- Dr Alex A Sergejew, Center for Applied Neurosciences, Swinburne _--_|\ University of Technology, PO Box 218, Hawthorn, Vic 3122, Australia. / \ Internet: aas@swin.oz.au or aas@brain.physics.swin.oz.au \_.--.x/ Phone: (voice) +61-3-819 8891 (fax) +61-3-819 0856 v ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** ./imap/ANSI/c-client/makefile.bsi.orig Wed Nov 10 11:24:37 1993 --- ./imap/ANSI/c-client/makefile.bsi Sat Apr 2 21:05:56 1994 *************** *** 31,37 **** RSH = rsh RSHPATH = /usr/bin/rsh OSDEFS = -DRSH=\"$(RSH)\" -DRSHPATH=\"$(RSHPATH)\" ! CFLAGS = -g -O -pipe LDFLAGS = mtest: mtest.o c-client.a --- 31,37 ---- RSH = rsh RSHPATH = /usr/bin/rsh OSDEFS = -DRSH=\"$(RSH)\" -DRSHPATH=\"$(RSHPATH)\" ! CFLAGS = -O -pipe LDFLAGS = mtest: mtest.o c-client.a *** ./pico/os_unix.h.orig Tue Nov 9 06:14:02 1993 --- ./pico/os_unix.h Sat Apr 2 20:46:14 1994 *************** *** 102,108 **** #define QcompType const void #else #define QSType int ! #define QcompType void #endif /* --- 102,108 ---- #define QcompType const void #else #define QSType int ! #define QcompType const void #endif /* *** ./pico/makefile.bsi.orig Tue Aug 17 08:33:30 1993 --- ./pico/makefile.bsi Sat Apr 2 20:46:24 1994 *************** *** 40,49 **** # #includes symbol info for debugging ! DASHO= -g #for normal build ! #DASHO= -O CFLAGS= -DBSDI -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI # switches for library building --- 40,50 ---- # #includes symbol info for debugging ! #DASHO= -g #for normal build ! DASHO= -O + #CFLAGS= -DBSDI -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -traditional CFLAGS= -DBSDI -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI # switches for library building *** ./pine/osdep/os-bsi.h.orig Tue Nov 16 11:33:13 1993 --- ./pine/osdep/os-bsi.h Sat Apr 2 21:03:18 1994 *************** *** 171,176 **** --- 171,181 ---- + /*----------------- Where does incoming mail go? -----------------------*/ + + #define MAILSPOOLPCTS "/var/mail/%s" + + /*----------------- Are we ANSI? ---------------------------------------*/ #define ANSI /* this is an ANSI compiler */ *************** *** 206,214 **** /*----------------- time.h ---------------------------------------------*/ ! #include /* plain time.h isn't enough on some systems */ ! /* #include /* For struct timeval usually in time.h */ --- 211,219 ---- /*----------------- time.h ---------------------------------------------*/ ! /*#include */ /* plain time.h isn't enough on some systems */ ! #include /* For struct timeval usually in time.h */ *************** *** 264,270 **** /*----- The usual sendmail configuration for sending mail on Unix ------*/ ! #define SENDMAIL "/usr/lib/sendmail" #define SENDMAILFLAGS "-oi -oem -t" /* ignore dots in incoming mail, mail back errors, and get recipients from To, cc, --- 269,275 ---- /*----- The usual sendmail configuration for sending mail on Unix ------*/ ! #define SENDMAIL "/usr/sbin/sendmail" #define SENDMAILFLAGS "-oi -oem -t" /* ignore dots in incoming mail, mail back errors, and get recipients from To, cc, *** ./pine/makefile.bsi.orig Tue Aug 17 08:54:15 1993 --- ./pine/makefile.bsi Sat Apr 2 20:45:51 1994 *************** *** 57,65 **** RM= rm -f LN= ln -s MAKE= make OPTIMIZE= -O PROFILE= # -pg ! DEBUG= -g -DDEBUG LIBES= -ltermlib LOCLIBES= ../pico/libpico.a ../c-client/c-client.a --- 57,67 ---- RM= rm -f LN= ln -s MAKE= make + #OPTIMIZE= -O -traditional OPTIMIZE= -O PROFILE= # -pg ! #DEBUG= -g -DDEBUG ! DEBUG= -DDEBUG LIBES= -ltermlib LOCLIBES= ../pico/libpico.a ../c-client/c-client.a *************** *** 135,141 **** $(RM) os.c $(LN) osdep/os-bsi.c os.c ! osdep/os-nxt.c: osdep/bld_path osdep/canacces osdep/canonicl \ osdep/chnge_pw osdep/coredump osdep/creatdir \ osdep/diskquot.non osdep/domnames osdep/err_desc \ osdep/expnfldr osdep/fgetpos osdep/filesize osdep/fltrname \ --- 137,143 ---- $(RM) os.c $(LN) osdep/os-bsi.c os.c ! osdep/os-bsi.c: osdep/bld_path osdep/canacces osdep/canonicl \ osdep/chnge_pw osdep/coredump osdep/creatdir \ osdep/diskquot.non osdep/domnames osdep/err_desc \ osdep/expnfldr osdep/fgetpos osdep/filesize osdep/fltrname \ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 2 09:53:13 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05750; Sat, 2 Apr 94 09:53:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14199; Sat, 2 Apr 94 09:34:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14191; Sat, 2 Apr 94 09:34:09 -0800 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29253; Sat, 2 Apr 94 09:33:44 -0800 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 09:33:44 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Alex A Sergejew Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Port of Pine 3.89 to BSDI BSD/386 ver 1.1 In-Reply-To: <199404021246.WAA10221@brain.physics.swin.oz.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Alex, Thanks for the contribution! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 2 Apr 1994, Alex A Sergejew wrote: > I have successfully ported pine-3.89 to run under BSDI BSD/386 version 1.1 > and append the patches in the form of context diffs with respect to the > distribution tree from ftp.cac.washington.edu:/mail/pine3.89.tar.Z > > These patches are based on the distributed "bsi" port to BSD/386 Gamma 4.1 > as submitted to washington by Michael F. Santangelo , > and the patches to pine3.87 posted to comp.os.386bsd.apps on Oct 31 1993 > by Alex Tang > > Get and untar the distribution tar file, run these patches out of the pine3.89 > directory, then do "build bsi" (then copy the binaries to somewhere like > /usr/local/bin). > > It would be nice if these patches replaced those based on the obsolete > BSD/386 Gamma release in the canonical Pine distribution... > > Alex. > -- > Dr Alex A Sergejew, Center for Applied Neurosciences, Swinburne _--_|\ > University of Technology, PO Box 218, Hawthorn, Vic 3122, Australia. / \ > Internet: aas@swin.oz.au or aas@brain.physics.swin.oz.au \_.--.x/ > Phone: (voice) +61-3-819 8891 (fax) +61-3-819 0856 v > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *** ./imap/ANSI/c-client/makefile.bsi.orig Wed Nov 10 11:24:37 1993 > --- ./imap/ANSI/c-client/makefile.bsi Sat Apr 2 21:05:56 1994 > *************** > *** 31,37 **** > RSH = rsh > RSHPATH = /usr/bin/rsh > OSDEFS = -DRSH=\"$(RSH)\" -DRSHPATH=\"$(RSHPATH)\" > ! CFLAGS = -g -O -pipe > LDFLAGS = > > mtest: mtest.o c-client.a > --- 31,37 ---- > RSH = rsh > RSHPATH = /usr/bin/rsh > OSDEFS = -DRSH=\"$(RSH)\" -DRSHPATH=\"$(RSHPATH)\" > ! CFLAGS = -O -pipe > LDFLAGS = > > mtest: mtest.o c-client.a > *** ./pico/os_unix.h.orig Tue Nov 9 06:14:02 1993 > --- ./pico/os_unix.h Sat Apr 2 20:46:14 1994 > *************** > *** 102,108 **** > #define QcompType const void > #else > #define QSType int > ! #define QcompType void > #endif > > /* > --- 102,108 ---- > #define QcompType const void > #else > #define QSType int > ! #define QcompType const void > #endif > > /* > *** ./pico/makefile.bsi.orig Tue Aug 17 08:33:30 1993 > --- ./pico/makefile.bsi Sat Apr 2 20:46:24 1994 > *************** > *** 40,49 **** > # > > #includes symbol info for debugging > ! DASHO= -g > #for normal build > ! #DASHO= -O > > CFLAGS= -DBSDI -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI > > # switches for library building > --- 40,50 ---- > # > > #includes symbol info for debugging > ! #DASHO= -g > #for normal build > ! DASHO= -O > > + #CFLAGS= -DBSDI -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -traditional > CFLAGS= -DBSDI -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI > > # switches for library building > *** ./pine/osdep/os-bsi.h.orig Tue Nov 16 11:33:13 1993 > --- ./pine/osdep/os-bsi.h Sat Apr 2 21:03:18 1994 > *************** > *** 171,176 **** > --- 171,181 ---- > > > > + /*----------------- Where does incoming mail go? -----------------------*/ > + > + #define MAILSPOOLPCTS "/var/mail/%s" > + > + > /*----------------- Are we ANSI? ---------------------------------------*/ > #define ANSI /* this is an ANSI compiler */ > > *************** > *** 206,214 **** > > > /*----------------- time.h ---------------------------------------------*/ > ! #include > /* plain time.h isn't enough on some systems */ > ! /* #include /* For struct timeval usually in time.h */ > > > > --- 211,219 ---- > > > /*----------------- time.h ---------------------------------------------*/ > ! /*#include */ > /* plain time.h isn't enough on some systems */ > ! #include /* For struct timeval usually in time.h */ > > > > *************** > *** 264,270 **** > > > /*----- The usual sendmail configuration for sending mail on Unix ------*/ > ! #define SENDMAIL "/usr/lib/sendmail" > #define SENDMAILFLAGS "-oi -oem -t" /* ignore dots in incoming mail, > mail back errors, and > get recipients from To, cc, > --- 269,275 ---- > > > /*----- The usual sendmail configuration for sending mail on Unix ------*/ > ! #define SENDMAIL "/usr/sbin/sendmail" > #define SENDMAILFLAGS "-oi -oem -t" /* ignore dots in incoming mail, > mail back errors, and > get recipients from To, cc, > *** ./pine/makefile.bsi.orig Tue Aug 17 08:54:15 1993 > --- ./pine/makefile.bsi Sat Apr 2 20:45:51 1994 > *************** > *** 57,65 **** > RM= rm -f > LN= ln -s > MAKE= make > OPTIMIZE= -O > PROFILE= # -pg > ! DEBUG= -g -DDEBUG > > LIBES= -ltermlib > LOCLIBES= ../pico/libpico.a ../c-client/c-client.a > --- 57,67 ---- > RM= rm -f > LN= ln -s > MAKE= make > + #OPTIMIZE= -O -traditional > OPTIMIZE= -O > PROFILE= # -pg > ! #DEBUG= -g -DDEBUG > ! DEBUG= -DDEBUG > > LIBES= -ltermlib > LOCLIBES= ../pico/libpico.a ../c-client/c-client.a > *************** > *** 135,141 **** > $(RM) os.c > $(LN) osdep/os-bsi.c os.c > > ! osdep/os-nxt.c: osdep/bld_path osdep/canacces osdep/canonicl \ > osdep/chnge_pw osdep/coredump osdep/creatdir \ > osdep/diskquot.non osdep/domnames osdep/err_desc \ > osdep/expnfldr osdep/fgetpos osdep/filesize osdep/fltrname \ > --- 137,143 ---- > $(RM) os.c > $(LN) osdep/os-bsi.c os.c > > ! osdep/os-bsi.c: osdep/bld_path osdep/canacces osdep/canonicl \ > osdep/chnge_pw osdep/coredump osdep/creatdir \ > osdep/diskquot.non osdep/domnames osdep/err_desc \ > osdep/expnfldr osdep/fgetpos osdep/filesize osdep/fltrname \ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 3 07:30:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17544; Sun, 3 Apr 94 07:30:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28657; Sun, 3 Apr 94 07:14:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail2.rdg.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28651; Sun, 3 Apr 94 07:14:06 -0700 Received: from reading.ac.uk by mail2.reading.ac.uk with SMTP - Local (PP) id <23792-0@mail2.reading.ac.uk>; Sun, 3 Apr 1994 15:13:49 +0100 Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 15:10:20 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Roch Subject: Re: When's Pine's next Release? To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 29 Mar 1994, David L Miller wrote: > Sherry, > > The final feature-list for Pine 3.9x is still a moving target. Some of > : > --DLM Any estimate on Sherry's key question - "when?" Mike ============================================================================== Mike Roch, Computer Services Centre, Tel: 0734 318430 The University, Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF Fax: 0734 753094 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 3 13:56:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20238; Sun, 3 Apr 94 13:56:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10335; Sun, 3 Apr 94 13:15:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10329; Sun, 3 Apr 94 13:15:29 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20434; Sun, 3 Apr 94 13:09:10 -0700 Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 13:09:10 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Mike Roch Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: When's Pine's next Release? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The best guess at this point is late spring.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 3 Apr 1994, Mike Roch wrote: > On Tue, 29 Mar 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > Sherry, > > > > The final feature-list for Pine 3.9x is still a moving target. Some of > > > : > > --DLM > > Any estimate on Sherry's key question - "when?" > > Mike > > ============================================================================== > Mike Roch, Computer Services Centre, Tel: 0734 318430 > The University, Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF Fax: 0734 753094 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 3 23:39:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25853; Sun, 3 Apr 94 23:39:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17032; Sun, 3 Apr 94 23:02:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from afep.yorku.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17026; Sun, 3 Apr 94 23:02:22 -0700 Received: from vortex.yorku.ca (vortex.yorku.ca [130.63.232.15]) by afep.yorku.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id CAA25413; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 02:02:19 -0400 Received: from localhost (ian@localhost) by vortex.yorku.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id CAA01640; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 02:04:21 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 02:04:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Ian Lumb Reply-To: Ian Lumb Subject: PC-Pine via SLIP?? To: PINE INFO Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Greetings:- I have started playing around with SLIP recently, and was hoping to get PC-Pine (pcpine_p) running. I am using the SLIP8250 packet driver, and have successfully got SLIP'ping with Kermit, Gopher and NCSA Telnet. Although I've made the necessary mods to the wattcp.cfg, and even tried the NCSA config.tel file, my primary problem seems to be that machine names are not being resolved by the nameserver. For example, all attempts to open an inbox on some remote machine, come back with a host unknown error message. I'd appreciate any pointers :-) Ian. P.S. I also assume that the PC version of the IMAP executable is included as a part of PC-Pine, as I was unable to find anything of this sort separately. I should also point out that telnet'ing to various IMAP servers, has verified that this new service works. -- Ian Lumb Internet: Earth & Atmospheric Science, York University North York, Ontario M3J 1P3, CANADA Voice: (416) 736-5245; Fax: (416) 736-5817 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 08:14:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02451; Mon, 4 Apr 94 08:14:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16439; Mon, 4 Apr 94 07:56:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from Krypton.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16433; Mon, 4 Apr 94 07:56:47 -0700 Received: from localhost (hayden@localhost) by krypton.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id KAA13909; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 10:01:52 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 10:01:52 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Turning off Save-folder moving To: Pine Info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a way to turn off the monthly moving of the save-message filter? ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> Political Correctness is \/ Finger for PGP 2.3a Public Key <=> P.C. for "Thought Police" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 08:49:05 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03609; Mon, 4 Apr 94 08:49:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17252; Mon, 4 Apr 94 08:36:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17246; Mon, 4 Apr 94 08:36:08 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28102; Mon, 4 Apr 94 08:36:05 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 08:36:04 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Robert A. Hayden" Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: Turning off Save-folder moving In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Robert, The simplest way is to set "last-time-prune-questioned=99.12" in your .pinerc file. This will delay the move for a few years anyway... Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 4 Apr 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote: > Is there a way to turn off the monthly moving of the save-message filter? > > ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu > \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- > \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> Political Correctness is > \/ Finger for PGP 2.3a Public Key <=> P.C. for "Thought Police" > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ > n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 09:09:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04920; Mon, 4 Apr 94 09:09:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17760; Mon, 4 Apr 94 08:56:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mhc.mtholyoke.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17746; Mon, 4 Apr 94 08:56:17 -0700 Received: by mhc.mtholyoke.edu (Ver_940415.01) id AA22746; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 11:56:12 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 11:56:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael A. Crowley" Subject: Re: Turning off Save-folder moving To: "Robert A. Hayden" Cc: Pine Info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 4 Apr 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote: > Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 10:01:52 -0500 (CDT) > From: Robert A. Hayden > To: Pine Info > Subject: Turning off Save-folder moving > > Is there a way to turn off the monthly moving of the save-message filter? While it doesn't really turn it off, what works is to change the "last time pruned" in .pinerc to something like 394. Then it just never occurs. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 09:55:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06814; Mon, 4 Apr 94 09:55:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26005; Mon, 4 Apr 94 09:42:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from hub.ucsb.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25999; Mon, 4 Apr 94 09:42:04 -0700 Received: from humanitas (humanitas.ucsb.edu) by hub.ucsb.edu; id AA16812 sendmail 4.1/UCSB-2.1-sun Mon, 4 Apr 94 09:42:02 PDT for pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: by humanitas (5.57/UCSB-v2) id AA18916; Mon, 4 Apr 94 09:39:56 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 09:37:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Terri Jo Ortega Subject: wordwrap change To: pine listserver Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sorry if this is too basic of a question for this list. How do I change the current wordwrap in Pine? I would like to change it to 60 or even 55. Should this be included in the .pinerc file? thank you. *********************************** Terri Jo Ortega Academic Computing Analyst University of California Santa Barbara English Department Santa Barbara, Ca 93106 ph-(805)893-2119 fax-(805)893-4622 internet-tjort@humanitas.ucsb.edu *********************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 11:18:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09770; Mon, 4 Apr 94 11:18:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27620; Mon, 4 Apr 94 11:00:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27614; Mon, 4 Apr 94 11:00:11 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02446; Mon, 4 Apr 94 11:00:01 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 11:00:00 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Terri Jo Ortega Cc: pine listserver Subject: Re: wordwrap change In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Terri, There have been several requests for a word-wrap-column variable in the .pinerc file. Thanks for the suggestion! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 4 Apr 1994, Terri Jo Ortega wrote: > Sorry if this is too basic of a question for this list. How do I change > the current wordwrap in Pine? I would like to change it to 60 or even 55. > Should this be included in the .pinerc file? thank you. > *********************************** > Terri Jo Ortega > Academic Computing Analyst > University of California > Santa Barbara > English Department > Santa Barbara, Ca 93106 > ph-(805)893-2119 > fax-(805)893-4622 > internet-tjort@humanitas.ucsb.edu > *********************************** > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 11:21:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09886; Mon, 4 Apr 94 11:21:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20589; Mon, 4 Apr 94 10:59:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20583; Mon, 4 Apr 94 10:59:12 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA25841; Mon, 4 Apr 94 13:59:03 EDT Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 13:58:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Reply-To: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: binaries To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Hello, I have had no luck compilong pine under NetBSD 0.9 or Esix SVR4 on an intel machine. Can anyone help me? Does anyone have binaries for either of theese that I can get a copy of? Thanks much, Rick Gaine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 14:57:53 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18718; Mon, 4 Apr 94 14:57:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25645; Mon, 4 Apr 94 14:34:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25639; Mon, 4 Apr 94 14:34:46 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07900; Mon, 4 Apr 94 14:34:46 -0700 Return-Path: <@UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU:JIM@UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU> Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10028; Mon, 4 Apr 94 11:26:02 -0700 Received: from UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28069; Mon, 4 Apr 94 11:25:58 -0700 Message-Id: <9404041825.AA28069@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Received: from UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU by ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1715; Mon, 04 Apr 94 14:23:39 EDT Received: from ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu (NJE origin JIM@UCF1VM) by UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 2170; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:23:39 -0400 Date: Mon, 04 Apr 94 14:21:38 EDT From: Jim Ennis Organization: University of Central Florida - Computer Services Subject: Possible Exceeded File Size Error To: pine-info Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Subject: Resent-Message-Id: Hello, I am running Pine 3.89 on a SunOS 4.1.3 Sparc 10/41. For some reason, all of my users who have the filesize limit set began to get the message sh: nnnn Exceeded file size limit when they were sending mail. They are able to create files with pico and save them, so I think the problem is between pine and sendmail. Has anyone else seen this type of problem? If this is a known problem, what is the fix? Jim Ennis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 15:06:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19315; Mon, 4 Apr 94 15:06:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02591; Mon, 4 Apr 94 14:46:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [198.175.190.1] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02577; Mon, 4 Apr 94 14:46:00 -0700 From: fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us Received: by bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA64396; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 16:40:56 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 16:40:55 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Binaries for SCO-UNIX To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Our college has recently acquired a box running on SCO-UNIX and I was wondering if we could find a binary version of Pine to run on our machine. What are the other requirements as far as files, pathnames, etc? We would be extremely grateful if someone could throw some light on the situation. Thanks in advance, Chris Fullinfaw fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us (712)274-8733x1291 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 15:31:08 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20020; Mon, 4 Apr 94 15:31:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26606; Mon, 4 Apr 94 15:13:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26596; Mon, 4 Apr 94 15:13:35 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09061; Mon, 4 Apr 94 15:13:19 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 15:13:19 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Binaries for SCO-UNIX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Chris, I understand there is an SCO port of pine on soils.agron.iastate.edu. It is not part of the official distribution and I have heard mixed reviews about it, so let us know how you fare... Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 4 Apr 1994 fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us wrote: > Hi, > Our college has recently acquired a box running on SCO-UNIX and I was > wondering if we could find a binary version of Pine to run on our > machine. What are the other requirements as far as files, pathnames, etc? > We would be extremely grateful if someone could throw some light on the > situation. > > Thanks in advance, > > Chris Fullinfaw > > fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us > > (712)274-8733x1291 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 16:12:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21788; Mon, 4 Apr 94 16:12:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04122; Mon, 4 Apr 94 15:47:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04116; Mon, 4 Apr 94 15:47:37 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09852; Mon, 4 Apr 94 15:47:35 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18718; Mon, 4 Apr 94 14:57:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25645; Mon, 4 Apr 94 14:34:48 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25639; Mon, 4 Apr 94 14:34:46 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07900; Mon, 4 Apr 94 14:34:46 -0700 Return-Path: <@UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU:JIM@UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU> Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10028; Mon, 4 Apr 94 11:26:02 -0700 Received: from UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28069; Mon, 4 Apr 94 11:25:58 -0700 Message-Id: <9404041825.AA28069@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Received: from UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU by ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1715; Mon, 04 Apr 94 14:23:39 EDT Received: from ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu (NJE origin JIM@UCF1VM) by UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 2170; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:23:39 -0400 Date: Mon, 04 Apr 94 14:21:38 EDT From: Jim Ennis Organization: University of Central Florida - Computer Services Subject: Possible Exceeded File Size Error To: pine-info Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Subject: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 15:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Subject: Resent-Message-Id: Hello, I am running Pine 3.89 on a SunOS 4.1.3 Sparc 10/41. For some reason, all of my users who have the filesize limit set began to get the message sh: nnnn Exceeded file size limit when they were sending mail. They are able to create files with pico and save them, so I think the problem is between pine and sendmail. Has anyone else seen this type of problem? If this is a known problem, what is the fix? Jim Ennis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 16:19:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22051; Mon, 4 Apr 94 16:19:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04436; Mon, 4 Apr 94 16:01:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04430; Mon, 4 Apr 94 16:01:36 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10162; Mon, 4 Apr 94 16:01:21 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 16:01:21 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Frank Richter Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to setup an anonymous imap access In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Frank, Here's the scoop from the expert (mrc@cac.washington.edu): 1) create a file /etc/anonymous.newsgroups 2) the file(s) to be read must be either netnews newsgroups (with setup on /usr/spool/news and /usr/lib/news/active) or in ~ftp. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 30 Mar 1994, Frank Richter wrote: > Hi, > I have a local mailing list archive and want to make it accessible by an > anonymous read-only IMAP server. It is possible? How? > > Regards, > Frank > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Frank Richter Computing Services, Technical University Chemnitz, Germany > Email: Frank.Richter@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de (MIME welcome) | see X.500 entry > Tel: +49 (0)371 668-361 >> Alles wird besser, aber nichts wird gut... << > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 16:20:16 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22114; Mon, 4 Apr 94 16:20:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27685; Mon, 4 Apr 94 16:03:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from guava.wustl.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27679; Mon, 4 Apr 94 16:03:54 -0700 Received: by guava.wustl.edu (NX5.67c/NeXT-3.0-SLT/GHC) id AA22744; Mon, 4 Apr 94 18:04:28 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 18:01:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "G. H. Chinoy" Subject: different beep on new message? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a silly question. Is there a way to make pine play a different beep sound than just the standard one when a new message arrives? We're using NeXT machines running NeXTstep 3.0. Any ideas? Hussain Chinoy ____________________________________________________________________________ G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 314.935.4353 Washington University in St. Louis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 17:42:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25749; Mon, 4 Apr 94 17:42:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29630; Mon, 4 Apr 94 17:25:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29624; Mon, 4 Apr 94 17:25:24 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22399; Mon, 4 Apr 94 17:25:22 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 17:25:20 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "G. H. Chinoy" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: different beep on new message? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hussain, The only thing Pine currently does for a beep is send a ^G. At some point we might change this, but I'm not sure how soon. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 4 Apr 1994, G. H. Chinoy wrote: > > I have a silly question. Is there a way to make pine play a > different beep sound than just the standard one when a new message > arrives? We're using NeXT machines running NeXTstep 3.0. > > Any ideas? > > Hussain Chinoy > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab > hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 > 314.935.4353 > Washington University in St. Louis > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 18:34:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26878; Mon, 4 Apr 94 18:34:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07443; Mon, 4 Apr 94 18:20:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from midway.uchicago.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07437; Mon, 4 Apr 94 18:20:11 -0700 Received: from ellis.uchicago.edu by midway.uchicago.edu for pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon, 4 Apr 94 20:20:09 CDT Received: by ellis.uchicago.edu (4.1/UCCO-1.0A) id AA28465; Mon, 4 Apr 94 20:19:13 CDT Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 20:19:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Ippokraths Karakasoglou Subject: Rich Header To: Pine Lista Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How can I make the Rich Header option standard instead of having to press ^R ? Thanx. Ippokratis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 00:35:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01852; Tue, 5 Apr 94 00:35:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05585; Tue, 5 Apr 94 00:10:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from castor.cc.utu.fi by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05577; Tue, 5 Apr 94 00:09:58 -0700 Received: from indi by utu.fi id <165707-3>; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 10:09:47 +0300 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 10:09:32 +0300 From: Kari Sutela Subject: Pine 3.89 for solaris 2.3? To: Pine mailing list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Has anybody managed to build pine for solaris 2.3? Pico builds nicely (and works!) with "build sol", but I can't even get the addrbook.c module of pine to compile. What I get is error messages like this: Making Pine. cc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -c addrbook.c "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 171: identifier redeclared: rename "addrbook.c", line 200: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "addrbook.c", line 204: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "addrbook.c", line 1349: cannot recover from previous errors cc: acomp failed for addrbook.c *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `addrbook.o' By editing the pine include files (I seem to recall that I removed an "#include " somewhere) I managed to get a successful compile, but the resulting binary just coredumps while reading or writing the .pinerc file. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to reseach this properly, so I'm asking for help. BTW, this is with the SparcWorks C compiler. /KS From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 01:42:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03389; Tue, 5 Apr 94 01:42:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12818; Tue, 5 Apr 94 01:02:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12812; Tue, 5 Apr 94 01:01:58 -0700 Received: from snail.cs.uq.oz.au by uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au id ; Tue, 5 Apr 94 18:01:52 +1000 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 18:01:50 +1000 (EST) From: Jason Lee Subject: Re: Pine 3.89 for solaris 2.3? To: Kari Sutela Cc: Pine mailing list In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Kari Sutela wrote: > Has anybody managed to build pine for solaris 2.3? Pico builds nicely > (and works!) with "build sol", but I can't even get the addrbook.c module > of pine to compile. What I get is error messages like this: > > Making Pine. > cc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -c addrbook.c > "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 171: identifier redeclared: rename > "addrbook.c", line 200: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use > explicit cast > "addrbook.c", line 204: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use > explicit cast > "addrbook.c", line 1349: cannot recover from previous errors > cc: acomp failed for addrbook.c > *** Error code 1 > make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `addrbook.o' > > By editing the pine include files (I seem to recall that I removed an > "#include " somewhere) I managed to get a successful compile, > but the resulting binary just coredumps while reading or writing the > .pinerc file. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to reseach this > properly, so I'm asking for help. > > BTW, this is with the SparcWorks C compiler. > > /KS > The problem is both stdio.h and unistd.h declare rename. The way around it is as follows: In stdio.h do #ifndef _UNISTD_H extern int rename(const char *, const char *); #endif In unistd.h do #ifndef _STDIO_H extern int rename(const char *, const char *); #endif And you should have no problems after that. Happy pine'ing bye ----- Internet address: jasonl@cs.uq.OZ.AU Name : Jason David Lee Assistant System Programmer Computer Science Department, Uni of QLD From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 02:41:27 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04053; Tue, 5 Apr 94 02:41:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13875; Tue, 5 Apr 94 02:22:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from emoryu1.cc.emory.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13869; Tue, 5 Apr 94 02:22:28 -0700 Received: from cssun.mathcs.emory.edu by emoryu1.cc.emory.edu (5.65/Emory_cc.3.4.16) via SMTP id AA25781 ; Tue, 5 Apr 94 05:22:25 -0400 Return-Path: labsha@emory.edu Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 05:22:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Absha III Subject: Re: Pine 3.89 for solaris 2.3? To: Pine mailing list In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Add -Dconst= to the CFLAGS for makefile.sol in the pine subdirectory. That takes care of the redefinition of rename, and it is easier to do than adding #ifdefs and such. shy /----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------\ | Shyela Aberman, 404-712-2229 | INTERNET: labsha@emory.edu | | P.O. Box 21017, Emory University | BITNET: labsha@emoryu1 DEAD!DEAD!DEAD! | | Atlanta, Georgia 30322 | UUCP: {rutgers,gatech}!emoryu1!labsha | \----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------/ On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Kari Sutela wrote: > Has anybody managed to build pine for solaris 2.3? Pico builds nicely > (and works!) with "build sol", but I can't even get the addrbook.c module > of pine to compile. What I get is error messages like this: > > Making Pine. > cc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -c addrbook.c > "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 171: identifier redeclared: rename > "addrbook.c", line 200: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use > explicit cast > "addrbook.c", line 204: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use > explicit cast > "addrbook.c", line 1349: cannot recover from previous errors > cc: acomp failed for addrbook.c > *** Error code 1 > make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `addrbook.o' > > By editing the pine include files (I seem to recall that I removed an > "#include " somewhere) I managed to get a successful compile, > but the resulting binary just coredumps while reading or writing the > .pinerc file. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to reseach this > properly, so I'm asking for help. > > BTW, this is with the SparcWorks C compiler. > > /KS > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 06:55:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07605; Tue, 5 Apr 94 06:55:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10564; Tue, 5 Apr 94 06:29:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [192.188.107.10] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10552; Tue, 5 Apr 94 06:29:18 -0700 Received: (from guardian@localhost) by werple.apana.org.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id XAA15780; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 23:28:23 +1000 To: apana-lists-mail-pine@apana.org.au Path: news From: guardian@werple.apana.org.au (Nick Allan) Newsgroups: apana.lists.mail.pine Subject: question about different folders Date: 5 Apr 1994 23:28:21 +1000 Organization: /etc/news/organization Lines: 18 Message-Id: <2nrp1l$fd1@werple.apana.org.au> Hi all I'm not sure if this is the correct place for this message so I'm sorry in advance. I'm new at using pine so I'm not sure if this is possible. I'm a member of four mailing lists and I would like the different mailing lists to be put in different folders on arival. eg, all the thinkpad email to go to the thinkpad folder and all the guispeak email to go to the guispeak folder. Is this possible? How would I go about setting it up. I've created folders for each mailing list but the auto diversion? Thanks for any help in advance. Regards Nick From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 07:28:35 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08073; Tue, 5 Apr 94 07:28:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11288; Tue, 5 Apr 94 07:12:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11282; Tue, 5 Apr 94 07:12:30 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA05347; Tue, 5 Apr 94 10:12:27 EDT Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 10:08:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: help with pine on SVR4 Esix To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I was unable to compile pine on Esix SVR4, but someone gave me an executable that does run, however it will not send mail. Our system is not running sendmail. We are using smtp. In the .pinerc file there is a line for smtp server, but when I put our host there it doesn't work. Now for the questions: What am I doing wrong? Does anyone use pine on Esix SVR4? What am I doing wrong with the smtp server line in the .pinerc, or do I have to do something on my system to make it work? And for the final question, does anyone have Esyx SVR4.0.4 with pine running correctally? Thanks much, Rick Gaine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 07:29:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08124; Tue, 5 Apr 94 07:29:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10998; Tue, 5 Apr 94 06:58:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from LL.MIT.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10992; Tue, 5 Apr 94 06:58:13 -0700 Received: by ll.mit.edu (4.1/LL-1.3) id AA03112; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:51:21 EDT Return-Path: Date: Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:51:21 -0400 From: James Dryfoos Subject: Re: different beep on new message? To: David L Miller Cc: "G. H. Chinoy" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <9404050951.AA27938@LL.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1915759965-673642825-765553877:#11798" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --1915759965-673642825-765553877:#11798 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 4 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 17:25:20 -0700 (PDT) > From: David L Miller > To: "G. H. Chinoy" > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: different beep on new message? > > > Hussain, > > The only thing Pine currently does for a beep is send a ^G. At some > point we might change this, but I'm not sure how soon. > > Thanks for the request! > > --DLM If you feel like dealing with a little complexity, you can use procmail to do this (I assume it will run on a Next). For example, the .procmailrc command: #----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Lets play a sound file for each incoming message and continue processing # Will have to throw away the piped data and then execute the play program # Will just send the header to pipe as smaller. Wish could turn it off! :0 hc |cat > /dev/null ; /usr/local/audio/play /usr/local/audio/MeepMeep.au Does what you want for me. Of course, procmail lets you do a lot more with incoming mail. I have attached two readme files on procmail if you are interseted. -- Jim > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Mon, 4 Apr 1994, G. H. Chinoy wrote: > > > > > I have a silly question. Is there a way to make pine play a > > different beep sound than just the standard one when a new message > > arrives? We're using NeXT machines running NeXTstep 3.0. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Hussain Chinoy > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > > G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab > > hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 > > 314.935.4353 > > Washington University in St. Louis > > > > > ========================================================================== James D. 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chrissy.raritanval.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11401; Tue, 5 Apr 94 07:20:20 -0700 Received: by chrissy.raritanval.edu (8.3/NetBSD-0.9) id KAA01797; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 10:19:26 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 10:19:26 -0700 From: rgaine@chrissy.raritanval.edu (Rick Gaine) Message-Id: <199404051719.KAA01797@chrissy.raritanval.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Hello, I had trouble compiling pine for NetBSD, so I ftp'd the binary, however when I execute the file I get the following error: Who are you? (Unable to look up login name) Does anyone know what this means and how I can correct the problem? Or - Does anyone hav the binary for NetBSD that works properly? Rick Gaine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 08:20:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09327; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:20:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18503; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:04:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from acad.csv.kutztown.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18497; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:04:10 -0700 Received: by acad.csv.kutztown.edu (5.65/1.35) id AA00025; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:05:23 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 11:05:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lisa M. Frye" Subject: Converting folders to PC-Pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We are considering a move to PC-pine. In testing it, I tried to move my current folders from the Unix box to my PC. They are in my \mail directory on my pc and they all have the .mtx extension. However, when I use PC-pine, only folders created by PC-pine can be read. Is there any way to "convert" folders from Unix pine to PC-pine? Lisa Frye frye@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Network Software Specialist LMS Annex Room 105 Kutztown University phone: 610-683-4474 Kutztown, PA. 19530 fax: 610-683-4634 "You can bring a person to the university, but you can't make him think." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 08:36:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09790; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:36:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18759; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:15:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from acad.csv.kutztown.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18753; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:15:02 -0700 Received: by acad.csv.kutztown.edu (5.65/1.35) id AA00501; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:16:15 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 11:16:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lisa M. Frye" Subject: Spell check on PC-pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any type of spell-checking on PC-pine? Lisa Frye frye@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Network Software Specialist LMS Annex Room 105 Kutztown University phone: 610-683-4474 Kutztown, PA. 19530 fax: 610-683-4634 "You can bring a person to the university, but you can't make him think." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 08:52:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10235; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:52:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19001; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:28:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [198.175.190.1] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18990; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:28:30 -0700 Received: by bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA19258; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 10:23:07 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 10:23:06 -0500 (CDT) From: fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us Reply-To: fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us Subject: Pine on SCO-UNIX To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Hi, I obtained a copy of the pine binary for SCO-UNIX from soils.agron.iastate.edu. I then tried running it on our machine and got as far as the pine main menu when the core dumps and I get the message: "Bug in pine detected: Received abort signal" "Exiting pine" Any help in porting pine to our machine would be greatly appreciated. Also, forgive me for asking, but what are the files I need for setting up pine for our system? I first used pine less than a month ago and like it immensely. I am now trying to see if I can port it onto our new system - a box running on SCO-UNIX V386/r 3.2, but know nothing about setting up the system. Thanks in advance, Chris Fullinfaw fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us (712)274-8733x1291 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 08:54:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10363; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:54:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12802; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:34:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from carson-oms2.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12796; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:34:14 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by carson-oms2.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20446; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:34:10 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 08:34:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Lisa M. Frye" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Converting folders to PC-Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Lisa, There is a conversion utility in development, but it is not quite ready for release yet. -teg On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Lisa M. Frye wrote: > > We are considering a move to PC-pine. In testing it, I tried to move > my current folders from the Unix box to my PC. They are in my \mail > directory on my pc and they all have the .mtx extension. However, when I > use PC-pine, only folders created by PC-pine can be read. Is there any > way to "convert" folders from Unix pine to PC-pine? > > > > Lisa Frye frye@acad.csv.kutztown.edu > Network Software Specialist LMS Annex Room 105 > Kutztown University phone: 610-683-4474 > Kutztown, PA. 19530 fax: 610-683-4634 > > "You can bring a person to the university, but you can't make him think." > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 09:06:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11146; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:06:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13114; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:48:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13108; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:48:55 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17333; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:48:53 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 08:48:52 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Ippokraths Karakasoglou Cc: Pine Lista Subject: Re: Rich Header In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ippokratis, Currently you can't, but the next release of Pine will let you configure what headers you get by default. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 4 Apr 1994, Ippokraths Karakasoglou wrote: > How can I make the Rich Header option standard instead of having to press > ^R ? > > Thanx. > > Ippokratis > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 09:06:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11177; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:06:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19355; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:41:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [192.188.107.10] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19343; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:41:16 -0700 Received: from yarrina.connect.com.au (yarrina.connect.com.au [192.189.54.17]) by werple.apana.org.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA19776 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 01:40:21 +1000 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by yarrina.connect.com.au with SMTP id AA25509 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 6 Apr 1994 01:40:15 +1000 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17212; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:40:03 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 08:40:02 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Nick Allan Cc: apana-lists-mail-pine@apana.org.au Subject: Re: question about different folders In-Reply-To: <2nrp1l$fd1@werple.apana.org.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Nick, This is a frequently asked question, but unfortunately outside of the scope of Pine. What you need is one of the freely available "filter" programs. Some examples are filter, procmail, and deliver. Ask your local support staff if any of them are already supported at your site. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 5 Apr 1994, Nick Allan wrote: > Hi all > I'm not sure if this is the correct place for this message so I'm sorry > in advance. > > I'm new at using pine so I'm not sure if this is possible. > > I'm a member of four mailing lists and I would like the different > mailing lists to be put in different folders on arival. > eg, all the thinkpad email to go to the thinkpad folder and all the > guispeak email to go to the guispeak folder. > > Is this possible? How would I go about setting it up. I've created > folders for each mailing list but the auto diversion? > > Thanks for any help in advance. > > Regards Nick > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 09:16:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11564; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:16:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13295; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:58:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13289; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:58:11 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18387; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:57:56 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 08:57:55 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Kari Sutela Cc: Pine mailing list Subject: Re: Pine 3.89 for solaris 2.3? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Kari, Start with the original distribution and add "-Dconst=" to the CFLAGS setting in the pine/makefile.sol. That seems to take care of the problem. Thanks for the report! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Kari Sutela wrote: > Has anybody managed to build pine for solaris 2.3? Pico builds nicely > (and works!) with "build sol", but I can't even get the addrbook.c module > of pine to compile. What I get is error messages like this: > > Making Pine. > cc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -c addrbook.c > "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 171: identifier redeclared: rename > "addrbook.c", line 200: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use > explicit cast > "addrbook.c", line 204: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use > explicit cast > "addrbook.c", line 1349: cannot recover from previous errors > cc: acomp failed for addrbook.c > *** Error code 1 > make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `addrbook.o' > > By editing the pine include files (I seem to recall that I removed an > "#include " somewhere) I managed to get a successful compile, > but the resulting binary just coredumps while reading or writing the > .pinerc file. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to reseach this > properly, so I'm asking for help. > > BTW, this is with the SparcWorks C compiler. > > /KS From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 09:29:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12037; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:29:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20092; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:07:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20086; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:07:37 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19768; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:07:33 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 09:07:32 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Lisa M. Frye" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Spell check on PC-pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Lisa, No, we have not found a PC spell-checker that could be sandwiched into Pine without more hacking that we have been prepared to do thus far. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Lisa M. Frye wrote: > > Is there any type of spell-checking on PC-pine? > > > > Lisa Frye frye@acad.csv.kutztown.edu > Network Software Specialist LMS Annex Room 105 > Kutztown University phone: 610-683-4474 > Kutztown, PA. 19530 fax: 610-683-4634 > > "You can bring a person to the university, but you can't make him think." > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 09:35:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12222; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:35:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20274; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:16:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20268; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:15:58 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20625; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:15:49 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 09:15:49 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine on SCO-UNIX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We don't yet have any direct experience with the SCO port or Pine. I have talked to several people who run it without difficulty, others can't get it to work... There are only two configuration files for Pine, /usr/local/lib/pine.conf and each user's .pinerc file. You can generate a default .pinerc file with "pine -conf > pine.conf" and Pine automatically creates the .pinerc file the first time it is run. Both files have comments explaining each variable. If you have specific questions, let us know! Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 5 Apr 1994 fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us wrote: > Hi, > > I obtained a copy of the pine binary for SCO-UNIX from > soils.agron.iastate.edu. I then tried running it on our machine and got > as far as the pine main menu when the core dumps and I get the message: > > "Bug in pine detected: Received abort signal" > "Exiting pine" > > Any help in porting pine to our machine would be greatly appreciated. > > Also, forgive me for asking, but what are the files I need for setting > up pine for our system? I first used pine less than a month ago and like > it immensely. I am now trying to see if I can port it onto our new system > - a box running on SCO-UNIX V386/r 3.2, but know nothing about setting up > the system. > > Thanks in advance, > > Chris Fullinfaw > > fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us > > (712)274-8733x1291 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 09:35:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12267; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:35:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13249; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:56:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from recycle.snre.umich.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13243; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:56:09 -0700 Received: from localhost by snre.umich.edu (8.6.4/2.2) id LAA25529; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 11:54:24 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 11:54:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Tang Subject: Re: your mail To: Rick Gaine Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <199404051719.KAA01797@chrissy.raritanval.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Rick Gaine wrote: > Hello, > I had trouble compiling pine for NetBSD, so I ftp'd the binary, > however when I execute the file I get the following error: > > Who are you? (Unable to look up login name) > > Does anyone know what this means and how I can correct the problem? > > Or - Does anyone hav the binary for NetBSD that works properly? Hi. I don't know if this is acceptable to you, but I have a set of diffs that you can apply to the pine3.89 source so that it will compile straight (and work too). They're located at ftp.snre.umich.edu:/pub/pine/pine3.89.NetBSD.diff Let me know if you have any problems. ...alex... Alex Tang --- ALTITUDE@UMICH.EDU...USERW00Y@UMICHUM.BITNET -----------+ U of M, SNRE: Student and Computer Consultant II, PGP on req.| ITD/CSS Consultant, Short asian with long hair :) WWW -> http://www.snre.umich.edu/users/altitude/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 09:45:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12646; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:45:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14083; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:23:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from chrissy.raritanval.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14071; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:23:50 -0700 Received: by chrissy.raritanval.edu (8.3/NetBSD-0.9) id MAA02184; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 12:22:46 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 12:22:46 -0700 From: rgaine@chrissy.raritanval.edu (Rick Gaine) Message-Id: <199404051922.MAA02184@chrissy.raritanval.edu> To: altitude@umich.edu Subject: Re: your mail Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Alex, I tried the diffs and I am still having troubles. any other ideas? Rick Gaine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 11:25:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16462; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:25:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22761; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:04:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <@UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU:JIM@UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU> Received: from UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22755; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:04:53 -0700 Message-Id: <9404051804.AA22755@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Received: from UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU by ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3861; Tue, 05 Apr 94 13:44:02 EDT Received: from ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu (NJE origin JIM@UCF1VM) by UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 0513; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 13:44:02 -0400 Date: Tue, 05 Apr 94 13:43:54 EDT From: Jim Ennis Organization: University of Central Florida - Computer Services Subject: File Size Limit error To: Pine Info List Hello, I am running Pine 3.89 on a SunOS 4.1.3 Sparc 10/41. For some reason, all of my users who have the filesize limit set began to get the message sh: nnnn Exceeded file size limit when they were sending mail. They are able to create files with pico and save them, so I think the problem is between pine and sendmail. Has anyone else seen this type of problem? If this is a known problem, what is the fix? Jim Ennis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 11:30:53 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16647; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:30:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16562; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:02:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from recycle.snre.umich.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16556; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:02:49 -0700 Received: from localhost by snre.umich.edu (8.6.4/2.2) id OAA26774; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 14:01:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 14:01:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Tang Subject: Re: your mail To: Rick Gaine Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <199404051922.MAA02184@chrissy.raritanval.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Rick Gaine wrote: > Alex, > I tried the diffs and I am still having troubles. any > other ideas? Can you tell me what kind of errors your getting? Which version of NetBSD are you running? Which version of pine are you trying to compile? ...alex... Alex Tang --- ALTITUDE@UMICH.EDU...USERW00Y@UMICHUM.BITNET -----------+ U of M, SNRE: Student and Computer Consultant II, PGP on req.| ITD/CSS Consultant, Short asian with long hair :) WWW -> http://www.snre.umich.edu/users/altitude/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 11:40:14 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17080; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:40:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16969; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:21:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU:jadkins@uniandes.edu.co> Received: from cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16963; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:21:18 -0700 Received: from cdcnet.uniandes.edu.co by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R1) with TCP; Tue, 05 Apr 94 14:20:19 EDT Received: by cdcnet.uniandes.edu.co (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18111; Tue, 5 Apr 94 14:22:42 EDT Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 14:22:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerrold Andrew Adkins Subject: Practical Questions To: Pine Ques Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What is the best way to transfer text files to and from an IBM-comp. PC to PINE? Is there a way to have more than one address book? Is there another help manual or document for PINE? Is there a way to export and archive an entire folder from PINE or do you have to do it message by message? How can you tell when space is a problem, before it happens? Thanks in Advance, Jerrold A. Adkins, D.V.M. jadkins%cdcnet.uniandes.edu.co@andescol.bitnet From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 11:45:16 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17237; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:45:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17027; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:23:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from Krypton.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17021; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:23:21 -0700 Received: from localhost (hayden@localhost) by krypton.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id NAA08896; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 13:28:27 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 13:28:26 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Headers (was Re: Rich Header) To: Pine Info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Speaking of headers. It is now very difficult to save FULL headers to a file. I had to deal with some spoofed mail and other idiotcies. The only way to fully use the full headers was to save the message to a folder, and then read that folder in as a file. I'd like, if possible, to be able to export full headers to a file if I am currently viewing them. Thanks :-) BTW: A general thanks tl all of you for doing such great work. ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> Political Correctness is \/ Finger for PGP 2.3a Public Key <=> P.C. for "Thought Police" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 13:16:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20802; Tue, 5 Apr 94 13:16:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25166; Tue, 5 Apr 94 12:55:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rye.city.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25160; Tue, 5 Apr 94 12:55:10 -0700 Received: from paddington.city.ac.uk by Rye.city.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <23391-0@Rye.city.ac.uk>; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 20:51:09 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 20:53:30 +0100 (BST) From: David Brownlee Subject: Re: Full headers (was Headers) To: Pine-Info Maillist In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII As postmaster here it would be *really* useful if people could forward me a message with full headers (Getting them to export it to a file then reading in would be ok though) Another vote for being able to save full headers - somehow! Thanks David D.K.Brownlee@city.ac.uk. Network Analyst. Postmaster. Hostmaster. <_.-^-._> Telephone: (+44) 71 477 8000 Ext:3757. <_.-^-._> Snailmail:E308, City University, Northampton Sq, Islington, London EC1V 0HB. On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote: > Speaking of headers. > > It is now very difficult to save FULL headers to a file. I had to deal > with some spoofed mail and other idiotcies. The only way to fully use > the full headers was to save the message to a folder, and then read that > folder in as a file. > > I'd like, if possible, to be able to export full headers to a file if I > am currently viewing them. > > Thanks :-) > > BTW: A general thanks tl all of you for doing such great work. > > ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu > \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- > \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> Political Correctness is > \/ Finger for PGP 2.3a Public Key <=> P.C. for "Thought Police" > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ > n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 13:51:14 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21910; Tue, 5 Apr 94 13:51:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20080; Tue, 5 Apr 94 13:29:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from yacht.ee.fit.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20074; Tue, 5 Apr 94 13:29:08 -0700 Received: by ee.fit.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0/900117wah) id AA02212; Tue, 5 Apr 94 16:24:43 EDT Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 16:24:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Subject: PINE enhancement(s) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings: This is undoubtedly one of the most mail provoking lists I am on. Protocol on other lists state that questions are posted to the list, answers are replied to via E-Mail to the author (*not* the list) and then the person who posted the question posted a summary to the list. Do you think this would be feasable for the PINE list? Enhancement: When in the "Index" mode ... would it be possible to jump to specific message numbers by simply typing the number rather than using the arrow-keys? This is a slow method when our users are using the dial in lines at 2400 baud (like myself.) I didn't notice an obvious way to do this in the .pinerc file. Thanks, -= Chris =- [.Sig closed for repair] (ccurtis@ee.fit.edu) ... (cwcurtis@roo.fit.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 14:37:59 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23360; Tue, 5 Apr 94 14:37:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21225; Tue, 5 Apr 94 14:22:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21219; Tue, 5 Apr 94 14:22:14 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA25207; Tue, 5 Apr 94 17:22:06 EDT Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 17:19:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: smtp server To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I have a binary for SCO that works on Esix, but it won't send mail. I tried putting an smtp server in the .pinerc file, but it also gave me an error. Our crappy operating system doesn't use sendmail, so I thought an smtp server would work. How do I set up an smtp server? Do I need to do anything special to either the pinerc or my system to have it act an an smtp server? I really like pine and it is annoying not being able to use it on my local system. Please help... Rick Gaine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 15:11:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25067; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:11:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22165; Tue, 5 Apr 94 14:57:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from usc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22159; Tue, 5 Apr 94 14:57:26 -0700 Received: from Law.USC.EDU by usc.edu (4.1/SMI-3.0DEV3-USC+3.1) id AA17202; Tue, 5 Apr 94 14:57:10 PDT Received: from hal.Law.USC.EDU by Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03253; Tue, 5 Apr 94 14:57:10 PDT Received: by hal.Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15169; Tue, 5 Apr 94 14:57:09 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 14:57:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Elmar Kurgpold Subject: Re: Headers (was Re: Rich Header) To: "Robert A. Hayden" Cc: Pine Info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII YES, YES, YES! (please :-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Elmar Kurgpold, Network Administrator | EMAIL: ekurgpol@Law.USC.EDU | | University of Southern California | VOICE: (213) 740-2571 | | The Law Center | FAX: (213) 740-5502 | | University Park | "I got the boogie, boogie, | | Los Angeles, CA 90089-0071 | in my socks!" (Where else?) | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote: > Speaking of headers. > > It is now very difficult to save FULL headers to a file. I had to deal > with some spoofed mail and other idiotcies. The only way to fully use > the full headers was to save the message to a folder, and then read that > folder in as a file. > > I'd like, if possible, to be able to export full headers to a file if I > am currently viewing them. > > Thanks :-) > > BTW: A general thanks tl all of you for doing such great work. > > ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu > \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- > \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> Political Correctness is > \/ Finger for PGP 2.3a Public Key <=> P.C. for "Thought Police" > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ > n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 15:19:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25456; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:19:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22381; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:02:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22375; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:02:38 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26831; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:02:31 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 15:02:30 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE enhancement(s) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Chris, Pine-info tends to operate in more of a discussion mode than a gather and summarize mode. Posting teh reply to the list can also reduce the number of duplicate responses you recieve as well. The general volume of the pine-info list is getting pretty high. There was some discussion about setting up a comp.mail.pine list a few weeks ago, but I have not been reading news.groups to see if anyone is following through... You can jump by typing the number if you have enable-jump-shortcut on the feature-list in your .pinerc file. Thanks for the comment and question! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Christopher "AWOL" Curtis wrote: > Greetings: > > This is undoubtedly one of the most mail provoking lists I am on. > Protocol on other lists state that questions are posted to the list, > answers are replied to via E-Mail to the author (*not* the list) and then > the person who posted the question posted a summary to the list. Do you > think this would be feasable for the PINE list? > > two ... does the load usually subside and this is just a high-traffic > time or what?> > > Enhancement: > When in the "Index" mode ... would it be possible to jump to specific > message numbers by simply typing the number rather than using the > arrow-keys? This is a slow method when our users are using the dial in > lines at 2400 baud (like myself.) I didn't notice an obvious way to do > this in the .pinerc file. > > Thanks, > -= Chris =- > [.Sig closed for repair] > (ccurtis@ee.fit.edu) ... (cwcurtis@roo.fit.edu) > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 15:19:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25488; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:19:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22274; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:00:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from usc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22268; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:00:19 -0700 Received: from Law.USC.EDU by usc.edu (4.1/SMI-3.0DEV3-USC+3.1) id AA17276; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:00:13 PDT Received: from hal.Law.USC.EDU by Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03265; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:00:12 PDT Received: by hal.Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15187; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:00:11 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 15:00:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Elmar Kurgpold Subject: Re: PINE enhancement(s) To: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'd say the load is high today, sometimes I don't get anything. There is a feature called "enable-jump-shortcut" which will allow you to jump to a message by just typing the number (and pressing Enter). Add this to your "feature-list=" line. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Elmar Kurgpold, Network Administrator | EMAIL: ekurgpol@Law.USC.EDU | | University of Southern California | VOICE: (213) 740-2571 | | The Law Center | FAX: (213) 740-5502 | | University Park | "I got the boogie, boogie, | | Los Angeles, CA 90089-0071 | in my socks!" (Where else?) | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Christopher "AWOL" Curtis wrote: > Greetings: > > This is undoubtedly one of the most mail provoking lists I am on. > Protocol on other lists state that questions are posted to the list, > answers are replied to via E-Mail to the author (*not* the list) and then > the person who posted the question posted a summary to the list. Do you > think this would be feasable for the PINE list? > > two ... does the load usually subside and this is just a high-traffic > time or what?> > > Enhancement: > When in the "Index" mode ... would it be possible to jump to specific > message numbers by simply typing the number rather than using the > arrow-keys? This is a slow method when our users are using the dial in > lines at 2400 baud (like myself.) I didn't notice an obvious way to do > this in the .pinerc file. > > Thanks, > -= Chris =- > [.Sig closed for repair] > (ccurtis@ee.fit.edu) ... (cwcurtis@roo.fit.edu) > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 15:36:47 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26172; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:36:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22534; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:08:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22528; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:08:43 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26927; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:08:37 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 15:08:37 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Richard C. Gaine" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: smtp server In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It looks like pilot.njin.net is handling mail OK for you, so try setting smtp-server=pilot.njin.net in your .pinerc file. If that does not work, run Pine with the "-d9" command line option, try to send, exit pine, then send a copy of the .pine-debug1 file with a recap of the problem to pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu. Thanks for the report! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Richard C. Gaine wrote: > > Hello, > I have a binary for SCO that works on Esix, but it won't send > mail. I tried putting an smtp server in the .pinerc file, but it also > gave me an error. Our crappy operating system doesn't use sendmail, so I > thought an smtp server would work. How do I set up an smtp server? Do I > need to do anything special to either the pinerc or my system to have it > act an an smtp server? I really like pine and it is annoying not being > able to use it on my local system. Please help... > > Rick Gaine > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 15:48:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26884; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:48:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28844; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:33:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28838; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:33:00 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27321; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:32:55 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 15:32:55 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jim Ennis Cc: Pine Info List Subject: Re: File Size Limit error In-Reply-To: <9404051804.AA22755@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Jim, Pine does save the message to a temp file which is then passed to sendmail. Is it possible that the total size of the message is exceeding the limit? If you set the smtp-server in your .pinerc file, does that get rid of the problem? Thanks for the report! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Jim Ennis wrote: > > Hello, > > I am running Pine 3.89 on a SunOS 4.1.3 Sparc 10/41. For some reason, > all of my users who have the filesize limit set began to get the message > > sh: nnnn Exceeded file size limit > > when they were sending mail. They are able to create files with pico and > save them, so I think the problem is between pine and sendmail. Has anyone > else seen this type of problem? If this is a known problem, what is the fix? > > Jim Ennis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 18:01:13 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02889; Tue, 5 Apr 94 18:01:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26577; Tue, 5 Apr 94 17:47:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26571; Tue, 5 Apr 94 17:47:01 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA02362; Tue, 5 Apr 94 20:46:51 EDT Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 20:45:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: Re: PINE enhancement(s) To: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I feel that it is a good thing that the mail goes out to the list as well as the original author. This gives everyone a chance to read more about pine and problems they may or may not have in the future. I feel that the list is funning just fine. On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Christopher "AWOL" Curtis wrote: > Greetings: > > This is undoubtedly one of the most mail provoking lists I am on. > Protocol on other lists state that questions are posted to the list, > answers are replied to via E-Mail to the author (*not* the list) and then > the person who posted the question posted a summary to the list. Do you > think this would be feasable for the PINE list? > > two ... does the load usually subside and this is just a high-traffic > time or what?> > > Enhancement: > When in the "Index" mode ... would it be possible to jump to specific > message numbers by simply typing the number rather than using the > arrow-keys? This is a slow method when our users are using the dial in > lines at 2400 baud (like myself.) I didn't notice an obvious way to do > this in the .pinerc file. > > Thanks, > -= Chris =- > [.Sig closed for repair] > (ccurtis@ee.fit.edu) ... (cwcurtis@roo.fit.edu) > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 18:01:14 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02891; Tue, 5 Apr 94 18:01:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26641; Tue, 5 Apr 94 17:50:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26633; Tue, 5 Apr 94 17:50:04 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA02462; Tue, 5 Apr 94 20:50:02 EDT Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 20:48:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: Re: smtp server To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII pilot.njin.net is not the system I am trying to run pine on. I have pine running on pilot. It is our local system which is an Esix box running Esix SVR4.0.4. On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > It looks like pilot.njin.net is handling mail OK for you, so try setting > > smtp-server=pilot.njin.net > > in your .pinerc file. If that does not work, run Pine with the "-d9" > command line option, try to send, exit pine, then send a copy of the > .pine-debug1 file with a recap of the problem to > pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu. > > Thanks for the report! > > --DLM > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Richard C. Gaine wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > I have a binary for SCO that works on Esix, but it won't send > > mail. I tried putting an smtp server in the .pinerc file, but it also > > gave me an error. Our crappy operating system doesn't use sendmail, so I > > thought an smtp server would work. How do I set up an smtp server? Do I > > need to do anything special to either the pinerc or my system to have it > > act an an smtp server? I really like pine and it is annoying not being > > able to use it on my local system. Please help... > > > > Rick Gaine > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 18:51:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03804; Tue, 5 Apr 94 18:51:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02992; Tue, 5 Apr 94 18:33:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from urchin.calvin.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02986; Tue, 5 Apr 94 18:33:02 -0700 Received: by urchin.Calvin.EDU (5.65c/1.35) id AA03178; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 21:32:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 21:32:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Omi Chandiramani Subject: Re: PINE enhancement(s) To: "Richard C. Gaine" Cc: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Chris wrote: > > This is undoubtedly one of the most mail provoking lists I am on. > > Protocol on other lists state that questions are posted to the list, > > answers are replied to via E-Mail to the author (*not* the list) and then > > the person who posted the question posted a summary to the list. Do you > > think this would be feasable for the PINE list? Actually no. Most of the time subscribers to this list are *discussing* possible enhancements to pine, or *arguing* on optimum ways to use or configure Pine on various platforms. So the original poster collecting a summary of responses will not work since there will be no two way discussion involved. Also, I wonder how many "original posters" would actually compile a collection of responses and repost to the list. I agree that a lot of us would, but then again maybe not. Omi Chandiramani, happy with the ^^, ^M, ^K sequence but could be happier. ochand70@calvin.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 20:46:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05562; Tue, 5 Apr 94 20:46:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04904; Tue, 5 Apr 94 20:31:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from hertz.asso.etsmtl.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04893; Tue, 5 Apr 94 20:31:20 -0700 Received: by asso.etsmtl.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02307; Tue, 5 Apr 94 22:08:12 EDT Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 22:08:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Roy Subject: Re: PINE enhancement(s) To: "Richard C. Gaine" Cc: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Richard C. Gaine wrote: I feel hat pine should really have a newsgroup.... I will vote for that anytime! Pierre > I feel that it is a good thing that the mail goes out to the list as well > as the original author. This gives everyone a chance to read more about > pine and problems they may or may not have in the future. I feel that the > list is funning just fine. Yep keep it that way... > > On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Christopher "AWOL" Curtis wrote: > > > Greetings: > > > > This is undoubtedly one of the most mail provoking lists I am on. > > Protocol on other lists state that questions are posted to the list, > > answers are replied to via E-Mail to the author (*not* the list) and then > > the person who posted the question posted a summary to the list. Do you > > think this would be feasable for the PINE list? > > > > > two ... does the load usually subside and this is just a high-traffic > > time or what?> > Pierre Roy Porretta Ecole de technologie superieure (ETS) Tel:(514) 289-8883 AEETS Fax:(514) 289-9480 e-mail:Pierre@asso.ETSmtl.ca Root@asso.ETSmtl.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 02:48:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10928; Wed, 6 Apr 94 02:48:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03767; Wed, 6 Apr 94 02:20:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from castor.cc.utu.fi by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03761; Wed, 6 Apr 94 02:20:06 -0700 Received: from indi by utu.fi id <165732-1>; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 12:19:58 +0300 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 12:19:38 +0300 From: Kari Sutela Subject: Re: Pine 3.89 for solaris 2.3? To: David L Miller Cc: Pine mailing list In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks for all the suggestions. I finally managed to get pine compiled (I decided to add the #ifndef's to unistd.h and stdio.h). However, I noticed something strange: if the global pine.conf file contains either the last-time-prune-questioned or the last-version-used entry, the solaris version of pine receives a SIGSEGV and dumps core. I know that the global configuration file probably shouldn't contain either of these entries, but our SunOS 4.1.3 binaries work perfectly even if the entries are there (the same binary runs OK even on Solaris 2.3 in binary compability mode). It's just the "pure" solaris binary that has this problem. Weird... /KS From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 09:15:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20275; Wed, 6 Apr 94 09:15:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15552; Wed, 6 Apr 94 08:53:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from cherry.wustl.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15546; Wed, 6 Apr 94 08:52:58 -0700 Received: by cherry.wustl.edu (NX5.67c/NeXT-3.0-SLT/GHC) id AA01846; Wed, 6 Apr 94 10:53:51 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 10:52:39 -0500 (CDT) From: "G. H. Chinoy" Subject: metamail extenstions for pine & NeXTstep To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, everyone! I just stumbled across mm2.7 on wuarchive and was wondering if anyone out there could share any hints to compile/configure metamail/MIME to work with pine and our system: NeXTstep 3.0 Thanks! Hussain Chinoy ____________________________________________________________________________ G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 314.935.4353 Washington University in St. Louis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 11:22:13 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25701; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:22:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12925; Wed, 6 Apr 94 10:54:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mango.wustl.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12919; Wed, 6 Apr 94 10:54:13 -0700 Received: by mango.wustl.edu (NX5.67c/NeXT-3.0-SLT/GHC) id AA02605; Wed, 6 Apr 94 12:55:08 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 12:53:26 -0500 (CDT) From: "G. H. Chinoy" Subject: blocking email reception from certain addresses? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! I was wondering if there was a field (or will be a field) in the .pinerc which specifies a file listing addresses of people whom you DO NOT want mail from? Sort of a 'call-blocker' for email, if you will? If this is not a native pine function, is there a script for one of those mail filters? Sincerely, Hussain ____________________________________________________________________________ G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 314.935.4353 Washington University in St. Louis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 11:36:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26385; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:36:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18727; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:08:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from bohemia.med.utah.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18721; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:08:17 -0700 Received: from comet.med.utah.edu (comet.med.utah.edu [128.110.229.10]) by bohemia.med.utah.edu (8.6.7/8.6.5.Beta9) with SMTP id MAA07980 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 12:07:45 -0600 Received: by comet.med.utah.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA05627; Wed, 6 Apr 94 12:08:13 -0600 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 12:08:12 -0600 (MDT) From: "Paul G. Leo Jr." Reply-To: "Paul G. Leo Jr." Subject: pine enhancement requests To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I noticed someone mentioned mm recently on this list. I know you pine folks have lots to work on, but I've had more than a few users asks for better search capabilities, and other mm like features. I guess what I'm really asking for is all of the capabilities of pine including imapd (I'm sold on it) + some of the mm capabilities -- when you guys get around to it Paul Leo e-mail paulleo@comet.med.utah.edu University of Utah Medical School paulleo@utahmed.bitnet Eccles Institute of Human Genetics Building 533 Room 2100 phone 801-585-3653 Salt Lake City, Utah 84106 fax 801-585-3910 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 12:01:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27375; Wed, 6 Apr 94 12:01:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19514; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:44:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19506; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:44:34 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11220; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:44:21 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 11:44:20 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Paul G. Leo Jr." Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine enhancement requests In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Paul, We're working on it! What specifically do you most need from MM? --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Paul G. Leo Jr. wrote: > > I noticed someone mentioned mm recently on this list. I know you pine > folks have lots to work on, but I've had more than a few users asks for > better search capabilities, and other mm like features. > > I guess what I'm really asking for is all of the capabilities of pine > including imapd (I'm sold on it) + some of the mm capabilities -- when > you guys get around to it > > > Paul Leo e-mail paulleo@comet.med.utah.edu > University of Utah Medical School paulleo@utahmed.bitnet > Eccles Institute of Human Genetics > Building 533 Room 2100 phone 801-585-3653 > Salt Lake City, Utah 84106 fax 801-585-3910 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 12:04:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27494; Wed, 6 Apr 94 12:04:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14101; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:41:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14095; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:41:31 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11189; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:41:28 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 11:41:27 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "G. H. Chinoy" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: blocking email reception from certain addresses? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hussain, It is pretty easy to discard undesired mail with any of the mail filters. Here is a sample line for the "filter" program (from my .filter-rules file): if (to contains "postmaster" and subject contains "Deferred") then delete You could also have it execute a script to send a bounce message back to the sender. The other filter programs have comparable features. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, G. H. Chinoy wrote: > Hi! > I was wondering if there was a field (or will be a field) in the > .pinerc which specifies a file listing addresses of people whom you DO > NOT want mail from? Sort of a 'call-blocker' for email, if you will? > > If this is not a native pine function, is there a script for one of > those mail filters? > > Sincerely, > > Hussain > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab > hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 > 314.935.4353 > Washington University in St. Louis > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 12:08:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27610; Wed, 6 Apr 94 12:08:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19708; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:53:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from stein.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19702; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:53:56 -0700 Received: by stein2.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18715; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:53:44 -0700 X-Sender: absweger@stein2.u.washington.edu Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 11:53:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew B. Sweger" Subject: Re: blocking email reception from certain addresses? To: "G. H. Chinoy" Cc: Pine Information In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, G. H. Chinoy wrote: > Hi! > I was wondering if there was a field (or will be a field) in the > .pinerc which specifies a file listing addresses of people whom you DO > NOT want mail from? Sort of a 'call-blocker' for email, if you will? > > If this is not a native pine function, is there a script for one of > those mail filters? When using procmail, add the following to your .procmailrc file: :0 * ^From.undesired-sender@domain.net roundfile Or, you could replace 'roundfile' with /dev/null to really can the email. > > Sincerely, > > Hussain -- / Andrew B. Sweger absweger@u.washington.edu // Computer Support Manager csg@fammed.washington.edu \\ Department of Family Medicine, HQ-30 (206) 543-2461 (Office) // UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON (206) 685-4337 (Voice Mail) / Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 685-0610 (FAX) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 12:55:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29091; Wed, 6 Apr 94 12:55:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15119; Wed, 6 Apr 94 12:33:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14946; Wed, 6 Apr 94 12:23:30 -0700 Received: from solveig.cs.tu-berlin.de by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de with SMTP id AA18920 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4(mail.m4[1.12]) for ); Wed, 6 Apr 1994 21:22:29 +0200 From: Roman Czyborra Received: (czyborra@localhost) by solveig.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.7/8.6.6) id VAA27138; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 21:22:28 +0200 To: "G. H. Chinoy" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: blocking email reception from certain addresses? In-Reply-To: by hussain@artsci.wustl.edu dated 1994-4- 6 12:53:26 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 21:22:23 +0200 Hussain Chinoy asked: > I was wondering if there was a field (or will be a field) in the > .pinerc which specifies a file listing addresses of people whom you > DO NOT want mail from? No. > If this is not a native pine function, is there a script for one of > those mail filters? Sure, in procmail it's as simple as this: :0hW | fgrep -s -f killfile From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 13:19:54 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00668; Wed, 6 Apr 94 13:19:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15416; Wed, 6 Apr 94 12:44:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sadye.emba.uvm.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15408; Wed, 6 Apr 94 12:44:33 -0700 Received: from banzai.UUCP by sadye.emba.uvm.edu with UUCP id AA26718 (5.65/1.23); Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:41:27 -0400 Received: from godzilla.PCC.COM by banzai.PCC.COM with smtp (Smail3.1.26.7 #1) id m0pocbe-0000oQC; Wed, 6 Apr 94 14:45 EDT Received: by godzilla.PCC.COM (Smail3.1.26.7 #1) id m0podUP-0000JfC; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:42 EDT Message-Id: From: jay%banzai.pcc.com@sadye.EMBA.UVM.EDU (Jay Schuster) Subject: Re: blocking email reception from certain addresses? To: artsci.wustl.edu!hussain@sadye.emba.uvm.edu (G. H. Chinoy) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:42:17 EDT Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu (Pine List) In-Reply-To: ; from "G. H. Chinoy" at Apr 6, 94 12:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] G. H. Chinoy writes: > I was wondering if there was a field (or will be a field) in the > .pinerc which specifies a file listing addresses of people whom you DO > NOT want mail from? Sort of a 'call-blocker' for email, if you will? If you use deliver, this is a sample .deliver file: user="$1" FROM=`header -f from $HEADER | tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]'` case "$FROM" in *user.to.ignore*) echo DROP; exit 0;; esac echo "$user" -- Jay Schuster uunet!uvm-gen!banzai!jay, attmail!banzai!jay The People's Computer Company `Revolutionary Programming' From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 13:55:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02022; Wed, 6 Apr 94 13:55:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21996; Wed, 6 Apr 94 13:37:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21990; Wed, 6 Apr 94 13:37:11 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA10510; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:36:04 EDT Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 16:35:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: Re: blocking email reception from certain addresses? To: David L Miller Cc: "G. H. Chinoy" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, What kind of mail filters are you talking about? Where can I get a mail filter from? Thanks much, Rick Gaine On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > Hussain, > > It is pretty easy to discard undesired mail with any of the mail filters. > Here is a sample line for the "filter" program (from my .filter-rules file): > > if (to contains "postmaster" and subject contains "Deferred") then delete > > You could also have it execute a script to send a bounce message back to > the sender. The other filter programs have comparable features. > > Thanks for the request! > > --DLM > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, G. H. Chinoy wrote: > > > Hi! > > I was wondering if there was a field (or will be a field) in the > > .pinerc which specifies a file listing addresses of people whom you DO > > NOT want mail from? Sort of a 'call-blocker' for email, if you will? > > > > If this is not a native pine function, is there a script for one of > > those mail filters? > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Hussain > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > > G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab > > hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 > > 314.935.4353 > > Washington University in St. Louis > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 13:55:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02058; Wed, 6 Apr 94 13:55:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21714; Wed, 6 Apr 94 13:24:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21708; Wed, 6 Apr 94 13:24:51 -0700 Received: from stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu by css.itd.umich.edu (8.6.8.1/2.2) with SMTP id QAA17604; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 16:25:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 16:25:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Douglas Inman Subject: Pine enhancement requests To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The three addition's I'd like to see in pine are as follows: The ability to add additional header lines in when sending mail. The ability to change your default editor and use it for the headers and everything. Built-in pgp support, I'm sure these aren't as popular as other things, but I thought I'd put in my two cents worth. -- Andrew (ainman@umich.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 14:32:57 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03539; Wed, 6 Apr 94 14:32:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22771; Wed, 6 Apr 94 14:12:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from usit.oit.unc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22752; Wed, 6 Apr 94 14:12:05 -0700 Received: by usit.oit.unc.edu (5.65/TAS/11-16-88) id AA19739; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 17:10:09 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 17:10:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Thomas E. Rutledge, III" Subject: Pine over Dialup Lines To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In the Main Menu Help, section 6 (of the Table of contents) mentions that "Pine can usually recognize when it is being used over a low speed dialup line via a modem. In this case it will show the current message in the index with a '->' instead of showing it all in reverse video." This does not seem to work here, and our best guess at this time is that we dial into (Xyplex) terminal servers, and the terminal server then connects to the unix machine via ethernet (which is NOT low speed). Does anyone have anything to add to this, or is our guess the correct one? Thanks, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ U U | Thomas E. Rutledge, III | (919) 962-6501 U U N N | UNC OIT User Services | U U N N N CCCC | CB # 3455 Phillips Hall | INTERNET Mail address: UUUU N N N C | Chapel Hill, NC 27599 | rutledge@unc.edu N N C |--------------------------------------------------------- CCCC | :( "Where ever you go, there you are ..." ): ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 14:35:34 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03678; Wed, 6 Apr 94 14:35:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17618; Wed, 6 Apr 94 14:18:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17612; Wed, 6 Apr 94 14:18:47 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13153; Wed, 6 Apr 94 14:18:44 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 14:18:43 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller Reply-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu To: Andrew Douglas Inman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Keywords: pinerc, headers, configuration Summary: Reply to request for enhancements Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Andrew, The next release of Pine will allow you to configure additional headers in your .pinerc file. Allowing the alternate-editor to manipulate the headers is a tough problem that we are deferring for now. We are improving the way editing the body is handled though. There are some legal and political roadblocks to be passed before we would be comfortable adding PGP support. Thanks for the suggestions! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Andrew Douglas Inman wrote: > > The three addition's I'd like to see in pine are as follows: > > The ability to add additional header lines in when sending mail. > > The ability to change your default editor and use it for the headers and > everything. > > Built-in pgp support, > > I'm sure these aren't as popular as other things, but I thought I'd put > in my two cents worth. > > -- Andrew (ainman@umich.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 15:05:38 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04820; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:05:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23701; Wed, 6 Apr 94 14:49:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23695; Wed, 6 Apr 94 14:49:24 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13704; Wed, 6 Apr 94 14:49:20 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 14:49:20 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Thomas E. Rutledge, III" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine over Dialup Lines In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thomas, I believe your guess is the correct one. You should be able to execute "stty 1200" or some such before entering Pine to get the low-speed mode. The next release of Pine will also include an option to force Pine into low-speed mode. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Thomas E. Rutledge, III wrote: > In the Main Menu Help, section 6 (of the Table of contents) mentions that > > "Pine can usually recognize when it is being used over a low speed > dialup line via a modem. In this case it will show the current > message in the index with a '->' instead of showing it all in > reverse video." > > This does not seem to work here, and our best guess at this time is that > we dial into (Xyplex) terminal servers, and the terminal server then > connects to the unix machine via ethernet (which is NOT low speed). > > Does anyone have anything to add to this, or is our guess the correct one? > > Thanks, > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > U U | Thomas E. Rutledge, III | (919) 962-6501 > U U N N | UNC OIT User Services | > U U N N N CCCC | CB # 3455 Phillips Hall | INTERNET Mail address: > UUUU N N N C | Chapel Hill, NC 27599 | rutledge@unc.edu > N N C |--------------------------------------------------------- > CCCC | :( "Where ever you go, there you are ..." ): > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 15:25:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05549; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:25:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18854; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:06:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from stein.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18848; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:06:41 -0700 Received: by stein3.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17272; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:06:40 -0700 X-Sender: absweger@stein3.u.washington.edu Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 15:06:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew B. Sweger" Reply-To: "Andrew B. Sweger" Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Andrew Douglas Inman , David L Miller In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > Andrew, [items deleted] > There are some legal and political roadblocks to be passed before we would be > comfortable adding PGP support. > > --DLM [items deleted] Perhaps a future version of pine could have appropriate locations for hooks to various privacy packages to be added by the installer (but not provided in the distribution). Maybe user installable menu commands (e.g., Sign Message (specify MIME part number), Encrypt MIME part) would be possible for the hacker (site implementor?). This doesn't solve all the legal or political roadblocks, but does put some distance from the problem and gives some folks a solution. The hooks don't have to be strictly for PGP, any package would apply. (IMHO, ignorant as it is) -Andy -- / Andrew B. Sweger absweger@u.washington.edu // Computer Support Manager csg@fammed.washington.edu \\ Department of Family Medicine, HQ-30 (206) 543-2461 (Office) // UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON (206) 685-4337 (Voice Mail) / Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 685-0610 (FAX) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 15:29:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05678; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:29:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24351; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:15:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post1.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24345; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:15:50 -0700 Received: from enuxsa.eas.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HAUY3WR79S8ZFJF0@asu.edu>; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 15:16:53 MST Date: Wed, 06 Apr 1994 15:18:13 -0700 (MST) From: Kevin Pinto Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests In-Reply-To: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi I use multiple incoming folders, (with delivery to them via procmail) and they are listed in my .pinerc I find though, that they're displayed in alphabetical order. While this may be neat and tidy, the high volume folders are at the end, meaning that I have to TAB through empty folders before reaching the ones I want. Are there any plans to change this? Regards, Kevin ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Pinto, Chem Engg, ASU, Tempe, AZ My mailer understands MIME "Beware of reading health books; you may die of a misprint" - Mark Twain "An armed society is a polite society" - Beyond This Horizon, Robert Heinlein From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 15:47:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06494; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:47:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24605; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:28:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uu3.psi.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24599; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:28:17 -0700 Received: from naz.edu by uu3.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA20468 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 94 18:20:32 -0400 Received: from libra.naz.edu by naz.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-DNI) id AA21151; Wed, 6 Apr 94 17:58:42 EDT Received: by libra.naz.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA06184; Wed, 6 Apr 94 18:06:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 17:59:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael A Naud Subject: Pine enhancement requests (fwd) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 16:25:13 -0400 (EDT) >From: Andrew Douglas Inman >To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu >Subject: Pine enhancement requests > > >The three addition's I'd like to see in pine are as follows: > >The ability to add additional header lines in when sending mail. Yes, a great idea. Would love to be able to automatically insert a return-reciept-to: line. Many mailers out there can handle the request, and it would be nice to see this added to pine. ---- Michael A. Naud SNAIL MAIL: (716) 586-2525 ext.460 VOICE Nazareth College of Rochester (716) 248-8766 FACSIMILE 4245 East Avenue manaud@naz.edu E-MAIL Rochester, NY 14618-0950 USA "...you're Norma Desmond. You were big." Gloria Swanson to William "I am big. It's the pictures that got small." Holden in "Sunset Boulevard" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 15:59:23 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07016; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:59:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19726; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:41:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19720; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:41:25 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14365; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:41:18 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 15:41:17 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Kevin Pinto Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Kevin, The next release of Pine will display the incoming folders in .pinerc order. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Kevin Pinto wrote: > > Hi > > I use multiple incoming folders, (with delivery to them via procmail) and > they are listed in my .pinerc > > I find though, that they're displayed in alphabetical order. While this > may be neat and tidy, the high volume folders are at the end, meaning > that I have to TAB through empty folders before reaching the ones I want. > > Are there any plans to change this? > > Regards, > Kevin > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Kevin Pinto, Chem Engg, ASU, Tempe, AZ > My mailer understands MIME > "Beware of reading health books; you may die of a misprint" - Mark Twain > "An armed society is a polite society" - Beyond This Horizon, Robert Heinlein > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 16:19:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07579; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:19:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20163; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:59:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from red4.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20157; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:59:53 -0700 Received: by red4.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03058; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:58:51 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 15:58:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "Timothy F. Lee" Subject: Re: blocking email reception from certain addresses? To: Roman Czyborra Cc: "G. H. Chinoy" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Actually, can't just you use filter command and filter out the mail that you don't want to /dev/null. In this situation, you aren't getting mail from anyone that you don't want to. ;) --Tim > Hussain Chinoy asked: > > > I was wondering if there was a field (or will be a field) in the > > .pinerc which specifies a file listing addresses of people whom you > > DO NOT want mail from? > > No. > > > If this is not a native pine function, is there a script for one of > > those mail filters? > > Sure, in procmail it's as simple as this: > > :0hW > | fgrep -s -f killfile > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 16:19:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07617; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:19:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25291; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:00:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sfi.santafe.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25285; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:00:20 -0700 Received: by sfi.santafe.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16184; Wed, 6 Apr 94 17:06:50 MDT Date: Wed, 6 Apr 94 17:06:50 MDT From: scott@santafe.edu (Scott D. Yelich) Message-Id: <9404062306.AA16184@sfi.santafe.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: .conf file I just installed pine 3.89 and I don't see a pine.conf in the distribution anywhere... how do I get one? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 16:24:28 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07716; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:24:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25500; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:09:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25494; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:09:14 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15295; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:09:09 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 16:09:08 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Andrew B. Sweger" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Andrew Douglas Inman Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Andrew, That approach is a possibility, but I think of it as hack to use as a last resort in case we get desparate. That is unless someone comes up with a good generic API that everyone can use ;) Thanks for the suggestion! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Andrew B. Sweger wrote: > On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > Andrew, > [items deleted] > > There are some legal and political roadblocks to be passed before we would be > > comfortable adding PGP support. > > > > --DLM > [items deleted] > > Perhaps a future version of pine could have appropriate locations > for hooks to various privacy packages to be added by the installer (but > not provided in the distribution). Maybe user installable menu commands > (e.g., Sign Message (specify MIME part number), Encrypt MIME part) would > be possible for the hacker (site implementor?). This doesn't solve all the > legal or political roadblocks, but does put some distance from the problem > and gives some folks a solution. The hooks don't have to be strictly for > PGP, any package would apply. (IMHO, ignorant as it is) -Andy > > -- > / Andrew B. Sweger absweger@u.washington.edu > // Computer Support Manager csg@fammed.washington.edu > \\ Department of Family Medicine, HQ-30 (206) 543-2461 (Office) > // UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON (206) 685-4337 (Voice Mail) > / Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 685-0610 (FAX) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. > ============================================================================== > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 16:40:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08159; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:40:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20671; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:26:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20665; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:26:49 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15561; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:26:36 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 16:26:35 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Scott D. Yelich" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: .conf file In-Reply-To: <9404062306.AA16184@sfi.santafe.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Scott, Run "pine -conf" to generate a template. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Scott D. Yelich wrote: > > I just installed pine 3.89 and I don't see a pine.conf in the > distribution anywhere... how do I get one? > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 17:05:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09458; Wed, 6 Apr 94 17:05:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26221; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:45:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sfi.santafe.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26215; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:45:45 -0700 Received: from coronado (coronado.santafe.edu) by sfi (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16966; Wed, 6 Apr 94 17:52:19 MDT Received: by coronado (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02120; Wed, 6 Apr 94 17:51:48 MDT Date: Wed, 6 Apr 94 17:51:48 MDT From: scott@santafe.edu Message-Id: <9404062351.AA02120@coronado> To: David L Miller Cc: "Scott D. Yelich" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: .conf file In-Reply-To: Your message at 16:26:35 on Wed, 6 April 1994 References: <9404062306.AA16184@sfi.santafe.edu> >>>>> "David" == David L Miller writes: David> Scott, David> Run "pine -conf" to generate a template. David> Thanks for the request! David> --DLM ya, I got the -conf outta the tech notes... it was buried! anyway, I configure BBS systems... and they need to have the full hostname while all the rest of my hosts have to have just the domain name (or, if they have the local real host name, the reply system better do mx lookups). pine 3.89 is excellent... much better than 3.05 I also installed a new tin-- but now I see that pine can read news as well. I configure all my clients to do NNTP... so I am going to try to figure out how to make pine do that. EXCELLENT WORK PROGRAMMERS Scott ps: telnet alife.santafe.edu pps: I hate elm. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 17:08:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09571; Wed, 6 Apr 94 17:08:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21236; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:53:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shark.mel.dit.CSIRO.AU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21230; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:53:16 -0700 Received: by shark.mel.dit.csiro.au id AA23887 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4/DIT-1.3 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:53:20 +1000 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:53:19 +1000 (EST) From: Simon McClenahan Subject: This pine-info mailing list To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, As much as I like to watch and _sometimes_ participate in discussions on pine, I think there is a NEED for this list to be able to be distributed in digest format.... please? I'll assume that another 50% of pine-info subscribers would quote the above text and write "me too!" down the bottom :) cheers, Simon.McClenahan@mel.dit.csiro.au \CSIRO Supercomputing Support Group CSIRO Division of Information Technology\ tel: +61 3 282 2623 723 Swanston St, Carlton 3053 AUSTRALIA \ fax: +61 3 282 2600 I'm pink, therefore I'm spam. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 01:39:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16832; Thu, 7 Apr 94 01:39:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28641; Thu, 7 Apr 94 01:18:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <@helios.hertfordshire.ac.uk:C.Monaghan@hertfordshire.ac.uk> Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28635; Thu, 7 Apr 94 01:17:53 -0700 Via: uk.ac.hertfordshire.helios; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:17:19 +0100 Received: from altair.herts.ac.uk by helios.herts.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <06054-0@helios.herts.ac.uk>; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:14:09 +0100 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:05:28 +0100 (BST) From: Colette Monaghan Subject: deleting multiple messages To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm new to this list so apologise if these questions have been asked and answered before! 1 Is it possible to delete multiple messages other than by expressly typing D at each one in the index or when actually reading a message? 2 Is it possible to send a file to someone without actually needing to go into the pine interface? *************************************** Colette Monaghan, User Services, Computer Centre, University of Hertfordshire, Hatfield, Herts., AL10 9AB, United Kingdom E-mail c.monaghan@herts.ac.uk ************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 01:41:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16886; Thu, 7 Apr 94 01:41:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28483; Thu, 7 Apr 94 01:06:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from dutepp6.et.tudelft.nl by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28477; Thu, 7 Apr 94 01:06:34 -0700 Received: by dutepp6.et.tudelft.nl id AA15431 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 7 Apr 1994 10:05:07 +0200 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 10:05:06 +0200 (MET DST) From: Richard Kooijman Subject: Re: This pine-info mailing list To: Simon McClenahan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Simon McClenahan wrote: > As much as I like to watch and _sometimes_ participate in > discussions on pine, I think there is a NEED for this list to be able to > be distributed in digest format.... please? I don't agree with you. There is a lot of traffic, I know, but you and others should probably try to get a mail filter program like procmail (which I use too), and seperate Pine-info mail from other mail. At least, that is what I suspect to be the problem. > I'll assume that another 50% of pine-info subscribers would quote > the above text and write "me too!" down the bottom :) I won't. Richard. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 03:06:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17861; Thu, 7 Apr 94 03:06:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29401; Thu, 7 Apr 94 02:22:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from reks.uia.ac.be by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29387; Thu, 7 Apr 94 02:22:01 -0700 Received: by reks.uia.ac.be (8.6.8/Ultrix4.2-C) id LAA11880; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 11:21:38 +0200 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 11:21:36 +0200 (MET DST) From: "W. Holemans" Subject: reading news in PC-pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do you set up news in PC-pine ? Using the same syntax as on our unix machine keeps giving an error about a \NEWSRC file that couldn't be created. As unix-pine works ok, i assume that our imapd is ok. Some examples would be welcome. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Wim Holemans phone + 32 3 820 22 03 Network/System manager fax + 32 3 820 22 44 U.I.A. e-mail : wim.holemans@uia.ac.be ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 03:16:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17990; Thu, 7 Apr 94 03:16:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04661; Thu, 7 Apr 94 02:43:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from gallery.ncb.gov.sg by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04649; Thu, 7 Apr 94 02:42:41 -0700 Received: by ncb.gov.sg (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21341; Thu, 7 Apr 94 17:44:24 SST Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 17:44:05 +0800 (SST) From: Poh Kim Wah Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown (fwd) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII See below..... Kim-Wah POH Internet : kimwah@ncb.gov.sg Network Specialist kimwah@piaget.moe.ac.sg Computer Services Branch Tel. : (65)-4709427 Ministry of Education, Singapore Fax. : (65)-4737513 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 7 Apr 94 17:07:37 SST From: Mailer-Daemon@gallery.ncb.gov.sg To: kimwah@gallery.ncb.gov.sg Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 pine-info@cac.washinton.edu... Host unknown ----- Unsent message follows ----- Return-Path: Received: by ncb.gov.sg (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19459; Thu, 7 Apr 94 17:07:37 SST Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 16:55:12 +0800 (SST) From: Poh Kim Wah Subject: Printing on OS/2 TCP/IP To: pine-info@cac.washinton.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm using OS/2 TCP/IP as a client to access to some remote TCP/IP host. How to I print a mail to a locally attached printer (Lpt1) on my OS/2 workstations ? Is there anything I have to customise on the host pine program or my OS/2 TCP/IP setup ? Could someone pls advise me ? Thanks in advance. Kim-Wah POH Internet : kimwah@ncb.gov.sg Network Specialist kimwah@piaget.moe.ac.sg Computer Services Branch Tel. : (65)-4709427 Ministry of Education, Singapore Fax. : (65)-4737513 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 03:55:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18641; Thu, 7 Apr 94 03:55:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05216; Thu, 7 Apr 94 03:27:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from cd1.lrz-muenchen.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05200; Thu, 7 Apr 94 03:26:59 -0700 Received: from sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de by cd1.lrz-muenchen.de id SMTP-0012da3dfe2010688; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:26:43 +0200 Received: from sun3.lrz-muenchen.de by sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04870; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:26:40 +0200 Received: by sun3.lrz-muenchen.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23817; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:26:40 +0200 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:26:39 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Wolf Subject: Re: This pine-info mailing list To: Richard Kooijman Cc: Simon McClenahan , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I also would not like to get pine-info discussions in digest format only. Perhaps it could be available in digest format additionally, but not as a replacement. Michael On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Richard Kooijman wrote: > On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Simon McClenahan wrote: > > > As much as I like to watch and _sometimes_ participate in > > discussions on pine, I think there is a NEED for this list to be able to > > be distributed in digest format.... please? > > I don't agree with you. >...... >...... > > > I'll assume that another 50% of pine-info subscribers would quote > > the above text and write "me too!" down the bottom :) > > I won't. > > > Richard. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 07:43:27 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22142; Thu, 7 Apr 94 07:43:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08412; Thu, 7 Apr 94 07:18:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08406; Thu, 7 Apr 94 07:17:58 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA28579; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:17:51 EDT Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 10:17:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: Re: Pine over Dialup Lines To: "Thomas E. Rutledge, III" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a command line option for pine that will forse the arrow rather then the reverse video?? On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Thomas E. Rutledge, III wrote: > In the Main Menu Help, section 6 (of the Table of contents) mentions that > > "Pine can usually recognize when it is being used over a low speed > dialup line via a modem. In this case it will show the current > message in the index with a '->' instead of showing it all in > reverse video." > > This does not seem to work here, and our best guess at this time is that > we dial into (Xyplex) terminal servers, and the terminal server then > connects to the unix machine via ethernet (which is NOT low speed). > > Does anyone have anything to add to this, or is our guess the correct one? > > Thanks, > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > U U | Thomas E. Rutledge, III | (919) 962-6501 > U U N N | UNC OIT User Services | > U U N N N CCCC | CB # 3455 Phillips Hall | INTERNET Mail address: > UUUU N N N C | Chapel Hill, NC 27599 | rutledge@unc.edu > N N C |--------------------------------------------------------- > CCCC | :( "Where ever you go, there you are ..." ): > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 07:47:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22200; Thu, 7 Apr 94 07:47:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08434; Thu, 7 Apr 94 07:19:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08428; Thu, 7 Apr 94 07:19:01 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA28646; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:18:55 EDT Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 10:18:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Andrew Douglas Inman , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, When is the next release of Pine due out? On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > Andrew, > > The next release of Pine will allow you to configure additional headers > in your .pinerc file. > > Allowing the alternate-editor to manipulate the headers is a tough problem > that we are deferring for now. We are improving the way editing the body is > handled though. > > There are some legal and political roadblocks to be passed before we would be > comfortable adding PGP support. > > Thanks for the suggestions! > > --DLM > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Andrew Douglas Inman wrote: > > > > > The three addition's I'd like to see in pine are as follows: > > > > The ability to add additional header lines in when sending mail. > > > > The ability to change your default editor and use it for the headers and > > everything. > > > > Built-in pgp support, > > > > I'm sure these aren't as popular as other things, but I thought I'd put > > in my two cents worth. > > > > -- Andrew (ainman@umich.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 07:54:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22312; Thu, 7 Apr 94 07:54:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03440; Thu, 7 Apr 94 07:12:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [198.175.190.1] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03434; Thu, 7 Apr 94 07:12:43 -0700 From: fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us Received: by bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA40426; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:07:42 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:07:41 -0500 (CDT) Subject: problem with setting up pine on SCO-UNIX To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-961561087-143302914-765727661:#41086" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---961561087-143302914-765727661:#41086 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I've almost(?) got pine 3.89 to work on our system SCO-UNIX. The problem is I can't get it to understand somethings about our system. I've attached a debug file (.pine-debug1) that I obtained using "pine -d9". When I ran pine I got as far as the MAIN MENU of pine and then the system hangs after giving a "bad system call" message. Any ideas as to what I am doing wrong, or not doing ? BTW, bandit is not the system I am trying to set pine up on. I am setting it up quest which is another system at our college. Maybe quest needs something to be done on it before I try putting pine on. Will someone please try sending mail to me at "fullinc@quest.witcc.cc.ia.us" in addition to "fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us". NOTE: bandit works just fine to get messages to me, but quest doesn't. 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IEJPT0sgLS0tLQ0KInBpbmUiIGFkZGVkIHRvIGFkZHJlc3MgYm9vaw0KDQoN CiAg ---961561087-143302914-765727661:#41086-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 08:20:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23094; Thu, 7 Apr 94 08:20:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03974; Thu, 7 Apr 94 07:47:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03959; Thu, 7 Apr 94 07:47:06 -0700 Received: from marimba.cellbio.duke.edu by duke.cs.duke.edu (5.65/3.8G/4.1.3) id AA02443; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:47:00 -0400 Received: by marimba.cellbio.duke.edu (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) for @duke.cs.duke.edu:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA14626; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:46:59 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:46:59 -0400 From: zhang@marimba.cellbio.duke.edu (Martin Zhang) Message-Id: <9404071446.AA14626@marimba.cellbio.duke.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: signoff Sorry, I deleted the information about how to unsubscribe this group. I will appreciate it if some one can forward me the information. Thanks. -Martin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 09:03:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24424; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:03:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09888; Thu, 7 Apr 94 08:31:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09882; Thu, 7 Apr 94 08:31:29 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA01628; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:31:06 EDT Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 11:29:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: Re: reading news in PC-pine To: "W. Holemans" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, How do you set up news in general? I realize that is a rather broad question, but can someone give me a step by step instruction? Reading news through pine sure would be nice. Thanks much, Rick Gaine On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, W. Holemans wrote: > How do you set up news in PC-pine ? Using the same syntax as on our unix > machine keeps giving an error about a \NEWSRC file that couldn't be > created. As unix-pine works ok, i assume that our imapd is ok. > > Some examples would be welcome. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Wim Holemans phone + 32 3 820 22 03 > Network/System manager fax + 32 3 820 22 44 > U.I.A. > e-mail : wim.holemans@uia.ac.be > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 09:08:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25095; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:08:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10214; Thu, 7 Apr 94 08:46:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10198; Thu, 7 Apr 94 08:45:51 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24215; Thu, 7 Apr 94 08:44:50 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 08:44:49 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Colette Monaghan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: deleting multiple messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Colette, Unfortunately the answer is no to both of these questions. (1) will be available in the next release though. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Colette Monaghan wrote: > I'm new to this list so apologise if these questions have been asked and > answered before! > > 1 Is it possible to delete multiple messages other than by expressly > typing D at each one in the index or when actually reading a message? > 2 Is it possible to send a file to someone without actually > needing to go into the pine interface? > > *************************************** > Colette Monaghan, User Services, Computer Centre, University of > Hertfordshire, Hatfield, Herts., AL10 9AB, United Kingdom > E-mail c.monaghan@herts.ac.uk > ************************************** > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 09:10:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25244; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:10:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10240; Thu, 7 Apr 94 08:47:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10234; Thu, 7 Apr 94 08:47:33 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24249; Thu, 7 Apr 94 08:47:10 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 08:47:09 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "W. Holemans" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: reading news in PC-pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Wim, Did you copy your .newsrc file from your Unix account to \NEWSRC on your PC? --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, W. Holemans wrote: > How do you set up news in PC-pine ? Using the same syntax as on our unix > machine keeps giving an error about a \NEWSRC file that couldn't be > created. As unix-pine works ok, i assume that our imapd is ok. > > Some examples would be welcome. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Wim Holemans phone + 32 3 820 22 03 > Network/System manager fax + 32 3 820 22 44 > U.I.A. > e-mail : wim.holemans@uia.ac.be > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 09:32:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26076; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:32:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10849; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:05:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10832; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:05:21 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA02781; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:05:18 EDT Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:04:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: sendmail.cf file To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I am trying to get sendmail running on an Intel machine running Esix SVR4. I am having trouble with the sendmail.cf file. Can someone that has sendmail running properly on either an SCO or ESIX SVR4 box send me a copy of your /etc/sendmail.cf file so I can use it as an example? Sorry that this question was not related to pine, but I thought this would be the best place to pose the question. Rick Gaine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 09:39:09 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26372; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:39:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05886; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:14:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from reks.uia.ac.be by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05865; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:13:16 -0700 Received: by reks.uia.ac.be (8.6.8/Ultrix4.2-C) id SAA01763; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 18:12:43 +0200 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 18:12:40 +0200 (MET DST) From: "W. Holemans" Subject: Re: reading news in PC-pine To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > Wim, > > Did you copy your .newsrc file from your Unix account to \NEWSRC on your PC? No, i didn't. I just did so after your message and now it seems to work. But isn't there a way to use the remote .newsrc file instead of the local on the PC and update this one just as is done with unix-pine ? > > --DLM > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, W. Holemans wrote: > > > How do you set up news in PC-pine ? Using the same syntax as on our unix > > machine keeps giving an error about a \NEWSRC file that couldn't be > > created. As unix-pine works ok, i assume that our imapd is ok. > > > > Some examples would be welcome. > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Wim Holemans phone + 32 3 820 22 03 > > Network/System manager fax + 32 3 820 22 44 > > U.I.A. > > e-mail : wim.holemans@uia.ac.be > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Wim Holemans phone + 32 3 820 22 03 Network/System manager fax + 32 3 820 22 44 U.I.A. e-mail : wim.holemans@uia.ac.be ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 09:41:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26518; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:41:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05843; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:11:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05831; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:11:24 -0700 Received: from dio.physics.sunysb.edu by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02770; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:10:30 -0700 Received: by dio.physics.sunysb.edu (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0powf8-0003EtC; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:10 EST Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 11:10:36 +0000 From: Eugene Tyurin Subject: Pico Question. To: Pine-Info list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I noticed that when I accidentally hit Ctrl-X Ctrl-S (a'la Emacs) trying to save file, the whole thing gets hung and I usually end up having to kill _both_ pico and shell processes. What can I do about it: is it a bug or is there something wrong with me? -- MIME mail is welcome -- finger for PGP PKB -- Active Ingredient: Eugene Tyurin http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu:80/~gene/plan.html Bio-degradable, made of 100% recycled substance. Handle with care: fragile, toxic and flammable. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 09:59:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27230; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:59:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11653; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:36:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11646; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:36:21 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25531; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:36:00 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:36:00 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "W. Holemans" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: reading news in PC-pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sorry, remote .newsrc files are a couple releases away yet... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, W. Holemans wrote: > On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > Wim, > > > > Did you copy your .newsrc file from your Unix account to \NEWSRC on your PC? > No, i didn't. I just did so after your message and now it seems to work. > But isn't there a way to use the remote .newsrc file instead of the local > on the PC and update this one just as is done with unix-pine ? > > > > --DLM > > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > > > On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, W. Holemans wrote: > > > > > How do you set up news in PC-pine ? Using the same syntax as on our unix > > > machine keeps giving an error about a \NEWSRC file that couldn't be > > > created. As unix-pine works ok, i assume that our imapd is ok. > > > > > > Some examples would be welcome. > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Wim Holemans phone + 32 3 820 22 03 > > > Network/System manager fax + 32 3 820 22 44 > > > U.I.A. > > > e-mail : wim.holemans@uia.ac.be > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Wim Holemans phone + 32 3 820 22 03 > Network/System manager fax + 32 3 820 22 44 > U.I.A. > e-mail : wim.holemans@uia.ac.be > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 10:00:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27240; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:00:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06561; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:37:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06555; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:37:21 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25553; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:37:10 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:37:10 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Richard C. Gaine" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Andrew Douglas Inman Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We are hoping for a beta release sometime this spring... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Richard C. Gaine wrote: > > > Hi, > When is the next release of Pine due out? > > On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > Andrew, > > > > The next release of Pine will allow you to configure additional headers > > in your .pinerc file. > > > > Allowing the alternate-editor to manipulate the headers is a tough problem > > that we are deferring for now. We are improving the way editing the body is > > handled though. > > > > There are some legal and political roadblocks to be passed before we would be > > comfortable adding PGP support. > > > > Thanks for the suggestions! > > > > --DLM > > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > > > On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Andrew Douglas Inman wrote: > > > > > > > > The three addition's I'd like to see in pine are as follows: > > > > > > The ability to add additional header lines in when sending mail. > > > > > > The ability to change your default editor and use it for the headers and > > > everything. > > > > > > Built-in pgp support, > > > > > > I'm sure these aren't as popular as other things, but I thought I'd put > > > in my two cents worth. > > > > > > -- Andrew (ainman@umich.edu) > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 10:10:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27761; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:10:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11602; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:34:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11596; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:34:27 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25514; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:34:21 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:34:20 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Richard C. Gaine" Cc: "Thomas E. Rutledge, III" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine over Dialup Lines In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Richard, Not yet, but the next release will have one. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Richard C. Gaine wrote: > > Is there a command line option for pine that will forse the arrow rather > then the reverse video?? > > On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Thomas E. Rutledge, III wrote: > > > In the Main Menu Help, section 6 (of the Table of contents) mentions that > > > > "Pine can usually recognize when it is being used over a low speed > > dialup line via a modem. In this case it will show the current > > message in the index with a '->' instead of showing it all in > > reverse video." > > > > This does not seem to work here, and our best guess at this time is that > > we dial into (Xyplex) terminal servers, and the terminal server then > > connects to the unix machine via ethernet (which is NOT low speed). > > > > Does anyone have anything to add to this, or is our guess the correct one? > > > > Thanks, > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > U U | Thomas E. Rutledge, III | (919) 962-6501 > > U U N N | UNC OIT User Services | > > U U N N N CCCC | CB # 3455 Phillips Hall | INTERNET Mail address: > > UUUU N N N C | Chapel Hill, NC 27599 | rutledge@unc.edu > > N N C |--------------------------------------------------------- > > CCCC | :( "Where ever you go, there you are ..." ): > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 10:26:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28453; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:26:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06915; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:51:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ultrix.ramapo.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06907; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:51:19 -0700 Received: by ultrix (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA04283; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:55:34 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:55:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jackie \"Oh!\" Owen" Subject: Re: Pico Question. To: Eugene Tyurin Cc: Pine-Info list In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'll bet that the ^S is setting the scroll-lock. The next time it happens, type ^Q to turn it off. On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Eugene Tyurin wrote: > > I noticed that when I accidentally hit Ctrl-X Ctrl-S (a'la Emacs) trying > to save file, the whole thing gets hung and I usually end up having to > kill _both_ pico and shell processes. What can I do about it: is it a bug > or is there something wrong with me? > > -- MIME mail is welcome -- finger for PGP PKB -- > Active Ingredient: Eugene Tyurin > http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu:80/~gene/plan.html > Bio-degradable, made of 100% recycled substance. > Handle with care: fragile, toxic and flammable. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jackie Loucks Owen Ramapo College of NJ Network Administrator 505 Ramapo Valley Road jowen@ultrix.ramapo.edu Mahwah, NJ 07430 (201) 529-7537 "Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 10:27:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28480; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:27:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12132; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:57:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12124; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:57:44 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26043; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:57:24 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:57:24 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Eugene Tyurin Cc: Pine-Info list Subject: Re: Pico Question. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Eugene, Try pressing Ctrl-Q after the Ctrl-S... --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Eugene Tyurin wrote: > > I noticed that when I accidentally hit Ctrl-X Ctrl-S (a'la Emacs) trying > to save file, the whole thing gets hung and I usually end up having to > kill _both_ pico and shell processes. What can I do about it: is it a bug > or is there something wrong with me? > > -- MIME mail is welcome -- finger for PGP PKB -- > Active Ingredient: Eugene Tyurin > http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu:80/~gene/plan.html > Bio-degradable, made of 100% recycled substance. > Handle with care: fragile, toxic and flammable. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 10:41:21 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28993; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:41:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12415; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:09:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12385; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:08:17 -0700 Received: from nero.UVic.CA by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03339; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:08:15 -0700 Received: from harriet.UVic.CA by nero.UVic.CA (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11552; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:07:16 PDT Received: by harriet.UVic.CA (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01043; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:07:13 PDT Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 10:07:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Anderson Subject: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII subscribe pine-info -- Mark Anderson manderso@nero.UVic.CA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 10:59:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29742; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:59:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07824; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:31:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sirius.cc.utexas.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07785; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:30:27 -0700 Received: (from loflin@localhost) by sirius.cc.utexas.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.6/cc-os.mc-1.2) id MAA29603; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:30:17 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:30:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Don Loflin Subject: Re: windows To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 30 Mar 1994, David L Miller wrote: > We are currently working on a winsock-compatible version of Pine. We are > hoping to have something available for testing this summer. Any chance we could see the c-client for winsock part of "WinPine" before then? I'd like to do some development with that (a mail filter, Graphical client, etc). Have you talked to the ECSmail folks to see if they'd be willing to let you (i.e us) have that part of their code (since they based ECSmail on c-client, I believe)? --Don Loflin, UT Austin loflin@mail.utexas.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 11:14:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00408; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:14:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08374; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:53:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08365; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:53:12 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26941; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:53:06 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 10:53:06 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Don Loflin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: windows In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Don, The latest IMAP toolkit includes a winsock port that should mostly work. It is in mail/imap-3.3.tar.Z on ftp.cac.washington.edu. There are a couple small changes that have not been rolled in yet and it is still quite experimental, so let us know how it works for you! Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Don Loflin wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Mar 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > We are currently working on a winsock-compatible version of Pine. We are > > hoping to have something available for testing this summer. > > Any chance we could see the c-client for winsock part of "WinPine" before > then? I'd like to do some development with that (a mail filter, Graphical > client, etc). Have you talked to the ECSmail folks to see if they'd be > willing to let you (i.e us) have that part of their code (since they based > ECSmail on c-client, I believe)? > > > --Don Loflin, > UT Austin > loflin@mail.utexas.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 11:19:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00739; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:19:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08414; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:56:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from nsipo.arc.nasa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08408; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:56:00 -0700 Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov by nsipo.arc.nasa.gov (4.1/1.5) id AA21643; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:55:49 PDT Received: by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (5.65/SunOS-4.1.3) id AA07852; Thu, 7 Apr 94 13:53:36 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 13:53:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael C. Newell" Subject: Re: Pico Question. To: Eugene Tyurin Cc: Pine-Info list In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Eugene Tyurin wrote: > > I noticed that when I accidentally hit Ctrl-X Ctrl-S (a'la Emacs) trying > to save file, the whole thing gets hung and I usually end up having to > kill _both_ pico and shell processes. What can I do about it: is it a bug > or is there something wrong with me? > Did you try typing ^Q after the ^S? +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | reflect those of the NSI program, | |+1-202-434-8954 | NASA, my employer, or anyone else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 11:25:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00959; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:25:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08678; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:08:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08672; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:08:47 -0700 Received: from ester.dsv.su.se by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04939; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:08:43 -0700 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SUNET/ADMD=_/C=SE/; Relayed; 07 Apr 94 19:58:38+0200 Date: 07 Apr 94 19:58:38+0200 From: Mark Anderson Message-Id: <639848*@su-kom.dsv.su.se> To: "Pine mailer discussions group (pine-infoEcac.washington.edu)" , Pine-Info list From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 11:52:53 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01995; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:52:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09391; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:38:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09385; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:38:28 -0700 Received: from dio.physics.sunysb.edu by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05242; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:38:21 -0700 Received: by dio.physics.sunysb.edu (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0poyyJ-0003HVC; Thu, 7 Apr 94 13:38 EST Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 13:38:34 +0000 From: Eugene Tyurin Reply-To: Eugene Tyurin Subject: Re: Pico Question. To: Pine-Info list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Oh well, :-( I've got so many replies -- I apologize for my stupidity. Just never use scroll-lock. -- MIME mail is welcome -- finger for PGP PKB -- Active Ingredient: Eugene Tyurin http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu:80/~gene/plan.html Bio-degradable, made of 100% recycled substance. Handle with care: fragile, toxic and flammable. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 11:53:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02027; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:53:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14345; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:35:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from picard.cs.wisc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14339; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:35:35 -0700 Received: by picard.cs.wisc.edu; Thu, 7 Apr 94 13:35:19 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 13:35:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Johnny Nintendo Subject: Re: This pine-info mailing list To: Richard Kooijman Cc: Simon McClenahan , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Richard Kooijman wrote: > On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Simon McClenahan wrote: > > > As much as I like to watch and _sometimes_ participate in > > discussions on pine, I think there is a NEED for this list to be able to > > be distributed in digest format.... please? > > I don't agree with you. > There is a lot of traffic, I know, but you and others should > probably try to get a mail filter program like procmail (which I use > too), and seperate Pine-info mail from other mail. At least, that > is what I suspect to be the problem. Hello, I am a fair new comer to Internet, would you tell me where can I gett he filter program like procmail ? Thanks for your help. Keep in touch ! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 12:18:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02911; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:18:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14965; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:03:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from carson-oms2.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14959; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:03:31 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by carson-oms2.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10024; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:03:30 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:03:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: David L Miller , "W. Holemans" Subject: Re: reading news in PC-pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Favorite-Drink: Orange Juice Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > Sorry, remote .newsrc files are a couple releases away yet... However... Wim may be thinking about access to new via IMAP. (Ultra-brief tutorial for news-impoverished Pine enthusiasts follows.) Two ways to access news via Pine: 1. Via NNTP. Your newsrc file must be on the machine where Pine is running. pinerc entry: news-collections=News *{news.wherever.edu/nntp}[*] 2. Via IMAP. Your newsrc file must be on the machine where news is stored. pinerc entry: news-collections=News *{news.wherever.edu}[*] The advantage of option #2 is that the same .newsrc can be used for both Unix Pine and PC-Pine. The disadvantage is that you must have an account on the machine that stores the news and runs the NNTP server. Caveats: Pine 3.89 doesn't know how to Post news Pine 3.89 doesn't know how to subscribe/unsubscribe (the newsrc must already exist.) 3.90 will have both posting and subscription As David notes, a version *after* 3.90 will support "location independence" of support files such as .newsrc, so that you can use the same .newsrc from multiple platforms, even if you don't have an account on the news server. -teg > On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, W. Holemans wrote: > > > On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > Wim, > > > > > > Did you copy your .newsrc file from your Unix account to \NEWSRC on your PC? > > No, i didn't. I just did so after your message and now it seems to work. > > But isn't there a way to use the remote .newsrc file instead of the local > > on the PC and update this one just as is done with unix-pine ? > > > > > > --DLM > > > > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > > > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > > > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > > > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > > > > > On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, W. Holemans wrote: > > > > > > > How do you set up news in PC-pine ? Using the same syntax as on our unix > > > > machine keeps giving an error about a \NEWSRC file that couldn't be > > > > created. As unix-pine works ok, i assume that our imapd is ok. > > > > > > > > Some examples would be welcome. > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Wim Holemans phone + 32 3 820 22 03 > > > > Network/System manager fax + 32 3 820 22 44 > > > > U.I.A. > > > > e-mail : wim.holemans@uia.ac.be > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Wim Holemans phone + 32 3 820 22 03 > > Network/System manager fax + 32 3 820 22 44 > > U.I.A. > > e-mail : wim.holemans@uia.ac.be > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 12:44:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04039; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:44:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10481; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:31:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from eskimo.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10475; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:31:42 -0700 Received: by eskimo.com (5.65c/1.35) id AA15651; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:31:38 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:31:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Putnam Barber Subject: Buffer for addresses To: PINE mailing list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any way to "paste" an address from the list into the text of a message? Remembring the complete address while paging through the menus taxes my little grey cells.... especially when it is an arbitrary collection of characters :-) Putnam Barber pbarber@eskimo.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 12:54:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04525; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:54:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15692; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:40:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from utsw.swmed.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15686; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:40:46 -0700 Received: from iliad.swmed.edu by UTSW.SWMED.EDU (PMDF V4.2-14 #3937) id <01HAWB5VVHGG9EYWEN@UTSW.SWMED.EDU>; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 14:41:54 CDT Received: by iliad.swmed.edu (920330.SGI/911001.SGI) for @utsw.swmed.edu:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA11663; Thu, 7 Apr 94 14:48:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 07 Apr 1994 14:48:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "Daniel P. Joy" Subject: Re: l after pine In-Reply-To: To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > > On Wed, 16 Mar 1994, Daniel P. Joy wrote: > > > > > I have aliased l to be ls -CF. Sometimes when I exit pine I get a directory > > listing in the format of ls -CF. The history command does not show a ls. > > Any ideas? > > I have finally been able to duplicate this behavior. Sometimes when exiting I hit "q" and "w" about the same time. This is an operator error caused by lazy fingers... This bug (?) only occurs if old-growth or quit-without-confirm is set in .pinerc. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Joy Systems Manager Internet: joy@howie.swmed.edu Howard Hughes Medical Institute Phone: (214) 648-5034 UT Southwestern Medical School From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 13:37:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06718; Thu, 7 Apr 94 13:37:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16828; Thu, 7 Apr 94 13:23:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16822; Thu, 7 Apr 94 13:23:10 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29712; Thu, 7 Apr 94 13:23:04 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 13:23:04 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Putnam Barber Cc: PINE mailing list Subject: Re: Buffer for addresses In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Putnam, Hmmm... you want to take an address from your addressbook and insert it into the body of a message? Try this little procedure: 1. Move the cursor to the CC line. 2. Enter the nickname or press ^T to search the addressbook and select the entry. 3. Use ^K to delete that address from the CC line. 4. Move the cursor where you want it in the body of the message. 5. Press ^U to insert the address. This is kind of a round-about way to get the job done, but it will work... Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Putnam Barber wrote: > > Is there any way to "paste" an address from the list into the text of a > message? Remembring the complete address while paging through the menus > taxes my little grey cells.... especially when it is an arbitrary > collection of characters :-) > > Putnam Barber > pbarber@eskimo.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 13:51:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07204; Thu, 7 Apr 94 13:51:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11974; Thu, 7 Apr 94 13:31:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from guava.wustl.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11968; Thu, 7 Apr 94 13:31:57 -0700 Received: by guava.wustl.edu (NX5.67c/NeXT-3.0-SLT/GHC) id AA27184; Thu, 7 Apr 94 15:32:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 15:26:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Hussain Chinoy Subject: making sure read-messages go into the right place To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, everyone. We're still using 3.87 on a NeXTstep 3.0 (BSD) system (just in case you need to know) and I just discovered the /usr/local/lib/pine.conf (or .pinerc) read-message-folder option. My question is how can you be sure that the read messages are stored in the users home directory? When I tried it with this line: read-message-folder=~$USER/mail/read-messages Which asks when you quit pine, 'save x messages in [wholepath]' --- sometimes the whole path is TOO LARGE for the screen and I thought people might get confused if they just saw: 'save x messages in /Students/c/ghchinoy/mai ?' Alternately, I tried this pine-conf line: read-message-folder=mail/read-messages Which asks when you quit pine, 'save x messages in mail/read-messages ?' Does this mean that if you had changed your current working directory to something else, say /, before invoking pine you'd save all your messages to /mail/read-messages instead of the correct ~user/mail/read-messages? I'm a bit confused about where this mail'd go. Thanks for any of your help, Hussain Chinoy ____________________________________________________________________________ G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 314.935.4353 Washington University in St. Louis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 14:41:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08590; Thu, 7 Apr 94 14:41:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18064; Thu, 7 Apr 94 14:22:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18058; Thu, 7 Apr 94 14:22:07 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00641; Thu, 7 Apr 94 14:22:02 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 14:22:01 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Hussain Chinoy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: making sure read-messages go into the right place In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hussain, Pine *never* looks at the "current" directory. There will be an option in Pine 3.90 that will allow it for export and read operations, but not for folders. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Hussain Chinoy wrote: > Hi, everyone. > > We're still using 3.87 on a NeXTstep 3.0 (BSD) system (just in case you > need to know) and I just discovered the /usr/local/lib/pine.conf > (or .pinerc) read-message-folder option. > > My question is how can you be sure that the read messages are stored > in the users home directory? > When I tried it with this line: > > read-message-folder=~$USER/mail/read-messages > > Which asks when you quit pine, 'save x messages in [wholepath]' --- > sometimes the whole path is TOO LARGE for the screen and I thought people > might get confused if they just saw: > 'save x messages in /Students/c/ghchinoy/mai ?' > > Alternately, I tried this pine-conf line: > > read-message-folder=mail/read-messages > > Which asks when you quit pine, 'save x messages in mail/read-messages ?' > Does this mean that if you had changed your current working > directory to something else, say /, before invoking pine you'd save all > your messages to /mail/read-messages instead of the correct > ~user/mail/read-messages? > > I'm a bit confused about where this mail'd go. > > Thanks for any of your help, > > Hussain Chinoy > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab > hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 > 314.935.4353 > Washington University in St. Louis > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 16:21:57 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12612; Thu, 7 Apr 94 16:21:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20137; Thu, 7 Apr 94 15:58:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20131; Thu, 7 Apr 94 15:58:30 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02932; Thu, 7 Apr 94 15:58:06 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 15:58:05 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us, fullinc@quest.witcc.cc.ia.us Cc: pine-info Subject: Re: problem with setting up pine on SCO-UNIX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1999013025-765759485=:23047" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1999013025-765759485=:23047 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Chris, The .pine-debug1 file you attached was at the default debug level (2) and does not show anything out of the ordinary. I have never seen the code for the SCO port that is floating around, so I don't know what it might be doing unusual. Did it produce a "core" file when it crashed? If so, do you have a symbolic debugger you can get a stack trace with? Thanks for the report! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Apr 1994 fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us wrote: > Hi, > > I've almost(?) got pine 3.89 to work on our system SCO-UNIX. 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Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I know there is a flag you can give to cause pine not to generate the debug files, but is there a compilation time option you can set to prevent this? We've got tons of users wasting disk space generating debug files that will never get used. _O_ Ryan L. Watkins e-mail: vamp@csulb.edu | Academic Computing Services url : http://www.acs.csulb.edu/~vamp/ | CSU Long Beach - Network Support pgpkey: finger vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 8 01:50:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23995; Fri, 8 Apr 94 01:50:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23944; Fri, 8 Apr 94 01:24:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rye.city.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23938; Fri, 8 Apr 94 01:24:46 -0700 Received: from brighton.city.ac.uk by Rye.city.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <21395-0@Rye.city.ac.uk>; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 09:20:30 +0100 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 09:22:59 +0100 (BST) From: "Norman R. McBride" Subject: Re: deleting multiple messages To: Pine Info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Two small comments... It would be nice to be able to execute pine in shell scripts (so I can automatically mail people files using my pine addressbook aliases, and including my .sig) with the command 'pine spod < file'. Can you add this to the infamous to-do list ? Puh-lease ? The second thing, could the aforementioned to-do list be posted to the maillist at intervals ? This may stop the barrage of requests for the same feature... N. .-----------------------[ N.R.McBride@city.ac.uk ]-----------------------. |'Bloody instructions which, being learned, return to plague the inventor' | | -Shakespeare, on debugging | | | | Norman R. McBride - Computer officer, CUBS | ` ' On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > Colette, > > Unfortunately the answer is no to both of these questions. (1) will be > available in the next release though. > > Thanks for the request! > > --DLM > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Colette Monaghan wrote: > > > I'm new to this list so apologise if these questions have been asked and > > answered before! > > > > 1 Is it possible to delete multiple messages other than by expressly > > typing D at each one in the index or when actually reading a message? > > 2 Is it possible to send a file to someone without actually > > needing to go into the pine interface? > > > > *************************************** > > Colette Monaghan, User Services, Computer Centre, University of > > Hertfordshire, Hatfield, Herts., AL10 9AB, United Kingdom > > E-mail c.monaghan@herts.ac.uk > > ************************************** > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 8 09:11:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03422; Fri, 8 Apr 94 09:11:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05073; Fri, 8 Apr 94 08:49:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05067; Fri, 8 Apr 94 08:49:27 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11388; Fri, 8 Apr 94 08:49:22 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 08:49:22 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: VampLestat Cc: Pine Info List Subject: Re: debug files In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ryan, You can turn off debugging completely by removing the DEBUG definition in the makefiles. Note that this will completely eliminate debugging... Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, VampLestat wrote: > > I know there is a flag you can give to cause pine not to generate the > debug files, but is there a compilation time option you can set to > prevent this? > > We've got tons of users wasting disk space generating debug files that > will never get used. > > _O_ Ryan L. Watkins e-mail: vamp@csulb.edu > | Academic Computing Services url : http://www.acs.csulb.edu/~vamp/ > | CSU Long Beach - Network Support pgpkey: finger vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 8 09:20:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03924; Fri, 8 Apr 94 09:20:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05326; Fri, 8 Apr 94 08:58:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05318; Fri, 8 Apr 94 08:58:08 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11490; Fri, 8 Apr 94 08:57:35 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 08:57:34 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Norman R. McBride" Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: deleting multiple messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Norman, "execute pine in shell scripts" is definitely on the long-list. One of the ways we determine the priority of items on the list is how often they are mentioned. If we posted the list, that feedback might not come in... Thanks for the suggestions! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 8 Apr 1994, Norman R. McBride wrote: > Two small comments... > > It would be nice to be able to execute pine in shell scripts (so > I can automatically mail people files using my pine addressbook aliases, > and including my .sig) with the command 'pine spod < file'. Can you add > this to the infamous to-do list ? Puh-lease ? > The second thing, could the aforementioned to-do list be posted to > the maillist at intervals ? This may stop the barrage of requests for the > same feature... > > N. > > .-----------------------[ N.R.McBride@city.ac.uk ]-----------------------. > |'Bloody instructions which, being learned, return to plague the inventor' | > | -Shakespeare, on debugging | > | | > | Norman R. McBride - Computer officer, CUBS | > ` ' > > On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > Colette, > > > > Unfortunately the answer is no to both of these questions. (1) will be > > available in the next release though. > > > > Thanks for the request! > > > > --DLM > > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > > > On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Colette Monaghan wrote: > > > > > I'm new to this list so apologise if these questions have been asked and > > > answered before! > > > > > > 1 Is it possible to delete multiple messages other than by expressly > > > typing D at each one in the index or when actually reading a message? > > > 2 Is it possible to send a file to someone without actually > > > needing to go into the pine interface? > > > > > > *************************************** > > > Colette Monaghan, User Services, Computer Centre, University of > > > Hertfordshire, Hatfield, Herts., AL10 9AB, United Kingdom > > > E-mail c.monaghan@herts.ac.uk > > > ************************************** > > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 8 09:55:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05528; Fri, 8 Apr 94 09:55:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06329; Fri, 8 Apr 94 09:35:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06323; Fri, 8 Apr 94 09:35:30 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12612; Fri, 8 Apr 94 09:35:27 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 09:35:26 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "G. H. Chinoy" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: metamail extenstions for pine & NeXTstep In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hussain, The next release of Pine will contain a significant portion of metamail and will run on NeXTstep. Inquire on the info-mime@CS.UTK.EDU mailing list (aka newsgroup comp.mail.mime) for more information on metamail itself. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, G. H. Chinoy wrote: > Hi, everyone! > > I just stumbled across mm2.7 on wuarchive and was wondering if > anyone out there could share any hints to compile/configure metamail/MIME > to work with pine and our system: NeXTstep 3.0 > > Thanks! > > Hussain Chinoy > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab > hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 > 314.935.4353 > Washington University in St. Louis > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 8 10:03:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05977; Fri, 8 Apr 94 10:03:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02336; Fri, 8 Apr 94 09:38:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from wave.aoml.erl.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02330; Fri, 8 Apr 94 09:38:35 -0700 Received: from localhost (chen@localhost) by aoml.erl.gov (8.6.5/8.6.4) id MAA07266; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 12:37:53 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 12:37:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Ying-Yuang Chen Reply-To: Ying-Yuang Chen Subject: unsubscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII --YY From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 8 11:40:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09523; Fri, 8 Apr 94 11:40:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08731; Fri, 8 Apr 94 11:26:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from norway.biop.umich.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08725; Fri, 8 Apr 94 11:26:35 -0700 Received: by norway.biop.umich.edu (931110.SGI.ANONFTP/911001.SGI) for pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA05554; Fri, 8 Apr 94 14:26:33 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 14:26:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Traigle Subject: Enhancement To: Pine Information Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just tried using a remote directory for the postponed mail folder and Pine seemed to insist that this be a local directory. It'd be nice to have this available through IMAP just like the other mail folders. -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeff Traigle | | Systems Administrator | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | University of Michigan University of Michigan | | College of Pharmacy Biophysics Research Division | | Pharmacy Building, Room 1033 Chemistry Building, Room 3080 | | Ann Arbor MI 48109 Ann Arbor MI 48109 | | (313) 747-2340 (313) 763-5449 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | traigle@umich.edu Pager: (313) 617-8793 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 8 13:34:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13777; Fri, 8 Apr 94 13:34:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10962; Fri, 8 Apr 94 13:09:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10956; Fri, 8 Apr 94 13:09:03 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA27683; Fri, 8 Apr 94 16:08:37 EDT Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 16:05:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: next release To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Request: I finally got pine running on my Esix SVR4 machine. Is it possibal that the next release be portable to SVR4 easier then the past releases have been????? That would be such a big help. It just isn't fair to us pore soals that are stuck on SVR4. Rick Gaine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 8 19:33:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23788; Fri, 8 Apr 94 19:33:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14923; Fri, 8 Apr 94 19:19:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ursa.calvin.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14917; Fri, 8 Apr 94 19:19:14 -0700 Received: by Calvin.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03794; Fri, 8 Apr 94 22:19:10 EDT Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 22:19:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Omi Chandiramani Subject: Flag to start pine only if new mail exists? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How about it? This would be similar to the -z flag in elm. Right now I have a shell script which does the same but it would be much cooler to just have to type.. pine -x or something similar. Anybody else support this idea? Omi Chandiramani ochand70@calvin.edu _ (/ .... > / \_____/''\ /|----\ / /____| / \ \____/ \ . . o O ,---/. | O \.. \ ,----. | / | \___----'O====. | | | | | `----' `----' From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 8 20:21:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24603; Fri, 8 Apr 94 20:21:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18463; Fri, 8 Apr 94 20:08:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18457; Fri, 8 Apr 94 20:08:51 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28516; Fri, 8 Apr 94 20:08:46 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 20:08:45 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Richard C. Gaine" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: next release In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Richard, We are always interested in making Pine more portable. Could you send us diffs of the changes you made to get it working on your system? Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 8 Apr 1994, Richard C. Gaine wrote: > > Request: > I finally got pine running on my Esix SVR4 machine. Is it > possibal that the next release be portable to SVR4 easier then the past > releases have been????? That would be such a big help. It just isn't > fair to us pore soals that are stuck on SVR4. > > Rick Gaine > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 8 22:03:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25746; Fri, 8 Apr 94 22:03:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19710; Fri, 8 Apr 94 21:49:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from afep.yorku.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19704; Fri, 8 Apr 94 21:49:50 -0700 Received: from vortex.yorku.ca (vortex.yorku.ca [130.63.232.15]) by afep.yorku.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id AAA16919; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 00:49:47 -0400 Received: from localhost (ian@localhost) by vortex.yorku.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id AAA08884; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 00:51:54 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 00:51:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Ian Lumb Reply-To: Ian Lumb Subject: PC-Pine via PPP To: PINE INFO Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Greetings:- Although my efforts to get PC-Pine running via SLIP have been unsuccessful to date, I have been using PC-Pine via PPP for a few days now. I think it's pretty incredible that my very modest 286 equipped with a high-speed modem, allows me to run the Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) packet driver, and thus become and Internet node and run PC-Pine! My only problem seems to be that I keep running out of memory on my 286! I assume that PC-Pine runs in conventional memory, and is thus limited by the famous 640K MS-DOS barrier. I've killed all unecessary TSRs, but there are still problems. In prticular, I've found that I can reply to a first message, but that replying to a second one usually results in not enough memory errors. I would like to know how much memory PC-Pine requires, and if there are any other suggestions for reducing memory demands when PC-Pine is operating ... Thx, Ian. -- Ian Lumb Internet: Earth & Atmospheric Science, York University North York, Ontario M3J 1P3, CANADA Voice: (416) 736-5245; Fax: (416) 736-5817 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 9 00:38:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27636; Sat, 9 Apr 94 00:38:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18730; Sat, 9 Apr 94 00:14:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [202.12.88.9] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18719; Sat, 9 Apr 94 00:13:48 -0700 Return-Path: Received: by budge (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0pouz3-000161C; Fri, 8 Apr 94 00:23 EST Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 00:23:02 +0000 From: Subject: Re: PINE enhancement(s) To: David L Miller Cc: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > > Enhancement: > > When in the "Index" mode ... would it be possible to jump to specific > > message numbers by simply typing the number rather than using the > > arrow-keys? This is a slow method when our users are using the dial in > > lines at 2400 baud (like myself.) I didn't notice an obvious way to do > > this in the .pinerc file. > > You can jump by typing the number if you have enable-jump-shortcut on the > feature-list in your .pinerc file. And even if you don't have enable-jump-shortcut in the features list, you can just type 'j' followed by the number, rather than use the arrow keys. Charlie Brady * (W) charlieb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au * (H) charlieb@budge.apana.org.au "Make it as simple as possible - | Tel: (02) 413 6838 ____Telectronics__| /\__ but no simpler" Einstein, A | Fax: (02) 413 6868 Pacing Systems \/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 9 13:40:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07199; Sat, 9 Apr 94 13:40:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01206; Sat, 9 Apr 94 13:23:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from isumataq.eskimo.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01200; Sat, 9 Apr 94 13:23:09 -0700 Received: by isumataq.eskimo.com (5.65c/1.35) id AA22659; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 13:23:02 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 13:23:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Putnam Barber Subject: Enhancement request...or how-to? To: PINE mailing list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Two things I'd like to be able to do: 1. Jump directly into the (and out of) the header area to make adjustments while composing text. What I do now is page to the top and then use ^P. I'd be happy to learn an easier way. 2. Jump directly to the top (or bottom) of the text without repetitive use of ^Y or ^V. That would help with wish #1, of course, but it would be useful for many other purposes. Workarounds: at the end, ^W for some arbitrary character likely to be in the first line (an "a"). Search wraps and deposits you there. Or ^O to postpone and then C to resume, which also starts you over at the top. Any way to get to the bottom? Thank you considering these wishes. Putnam Barber Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 9 15:32:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08173; Sat, 9 Apr 94 15:32:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00469; Sat, 9 Apr 94 15:16:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from solix.fiu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00463; Sat, 9 Apr 94 15:16:40 -0700 Received: from scs.fiu.edu by fiu.edu (4.1/SMI/FIU-4.0.2) id AA11130; Sat, 9 Apr 94 18:17:09 EDT Received: by scs.fiu.edu (4.1) id AA27949; Sat, 9 Apr 94 18:16:34 EDT Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 18:14:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Cory Tsang Subject: Pine port to Solaris? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm looking for a pine port for Solaris 2.x (2.3 is preferred). I don't have access to the motif libraries, so I can't compile it for myself. (If I remember correctly, you need motif to compile pine). Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Cory ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cory Tsang Programmer/Analyst Office: (305) 348-2739 School of Computer Science, MS ECS354 Fax : (305) 348-3549 Florida International University 9:30 am - 1:30 pm M-F Miami, FL 33199 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 9 17:08:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08901; Sat, 9 Apr 94 17:08:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01539; Sat, 9 Apr 94 16:49:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01533; Sat, 9 Apr 94 16:49:49 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA06603; Sat, 9 Apr 94 19:49:41 EDT Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 19:48:54 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: Re: Pine port to Solaris? To: Cory Tsang Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, What is this about needing motif to compile pine? Is this true? I have never heard of this and I was just wondering. Rick Gaine On Sat, 9 Apr 1994, Cory Tsang wrote: > > I'm looking for a pine port for Solaris 2.x (2.3 is preferred). I don't > have access to the motif libraries, so I can't compile it for myself. (If > I remember correctly, you need motif to compile pine). > > Any information would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks > Cory > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Cory Tsang > Programmer/Analyst Office: (305) 348-2739 > School of Computer Science, MS ECS354 Fax : (305) 348-3549 > Florida International University 9:30 am - 1:30 pm M-F > Miami, FL 33199 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 9 19:57:21 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10133; Sat, 9 Apr 94 19:57:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05489; Sat, 9 Apr 94 19:42:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from carson-oms2.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05483; Sat, 9 Apr 94 19:42:05 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by carson-oms2.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06459; Sat, 9 Apr 94 19:41:53 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 19:41:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Richard C. Gaine" Cc: Cory Tsang , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine port to Solaris? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Favorite-Drink: Orange Juice Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > What is this about needing motif to compile pine? Is this true? Nope; not true. (A Pine supporter at Nokia is working on a Motif version, but the "standard" Pine is a character-based application that does not use Motif. Some of us run it from within xterm windows under the Motif Window Manager, but Pine itself knows nothing about GUIs.) -teg > On Sat, 9 Apr 1994, Cory Tsang wrote: > > > > > I'm looking for a pine port for Solaris 2.x (2.3 is preferred). I don't > > have access to the motif libraries, so I can't compile it for myself. (If > > I remember correctly, you need motif to compile pine). > > > > Any information would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > Cory > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Cory Tsang > > Programmer/Analyst Office: (305) 348-2739 > > School of Computer Science, MS ECS354 Fax : (305) 348-3549 > > Florida International University 9:30 am - 1:30 pm M-F > > Miami, FL 33199 > > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 9 20:41:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10496; Sat, 9 Apr 94 20:41:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05976; Sat, 9 Apr 94 20:25:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from afep.yorku.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05970; Sat, 9 Apr 94 20:25:56 -0700 Received: from vortex.yorku.ca (vortex.yorku.ca [130.63.232.15]) by afep.yorku.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id XAA15302 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 23:25:55 -0400 Received: from localhost (ian@localhost) by vortex.yorku.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id XAA09968; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 23:28:02 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 23:28:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Ian Lumb Subject: Re: Pine port to Solaris? To: PINE INFO In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm not sure why Pine would require Motif as it is (at present at least) a text-based mail user agent. I have built Pine successfully under Solaris 2.3 using the `Solaris port', i.e. build sol Ian. On Sat, 9 Apr 1994, Richard C. Gaine wrote: > What is this about needing motif to compile pine? Is this true? > I have never heard of this and I was just wondering. > > Rick Gaine > > On Sat, 9 Apr 1994, Cory Tsang wrote: > > > > > I'm looking for a pine port for Solaris 2.x (2.3 is preferred). I don't > > have access to the motif libraries, so I can't compile it for myself. (If > > I remember correctly, you need motif to compile pine). > > > > Any information would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > Cory > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Cory Tsang > > Programmer/Analyst Office: (305) 348-2739 > > School of Computer Science, MS ECS354 Fax : (305) 348-3549 > > Florida International University 9:30 am - 1:30 pm M-F > > Miami, FL 33199 > > > > > > > > > -- Ian Lumb Internet: Earth & Atmospheric Science, York University North York, Ontario M3J 1P3, CANADA Voice: (416) 736-5245; Fax: (416) 736-5817 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 9 21:52:23 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11177; Sat, 9 Apr 94 21:52:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04876; Sat, 9 Apr 94 21:39:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shamash.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04870; Sat, 9 Apr 94 21:39:48 -0700 Received: by shamash.cdc.com (4.1/SMI-4.0/CDC1.1) id AA12179; Sat, 9 Apr 94 23:39:14 CDT Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA03671; Sun, 10 Apr 94 12:13:56 +0800 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 12:13:55 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Pine port to Solaris? To: Cory Tsang Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 9 Apr 1994, Cory Tsang wrote: > I'm looking for a pine port for Solaris 2.x (2.3 is preferred). I don't > have access to the motif libraries, so I can't compile it for myself. (If > I remember correctly, you need motif to compile pine). First, you remember *incorrectly*. You don't need motif or anything else X to complie pine. Second, I've not tried it since I don't have Solaris, it has been suggested that "Add -Dconst= to the CFLAGS for makefile.sol in the pine subdirectory." Regards, Edward M. Greshko Control Data Taiwan Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 9 22:01:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11286; Sat, 9 Apr 94 22:01:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05029; Sat, 9 Apr 94 21:51:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [131.217.10.2] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05023; Sat, 9 Apr 94 21:51:36 -0700 Received: (from jw_lamp@localhost) by bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id OAA15956; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 14:52:00 +1000 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 14:47:51 +1000 (EST) From: John Lamp Subject: Re: PC-Pine via PPP To: Ian Lumb Cc: PINE INFO In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ian, I run a waffle site, and memory errors can be a problem with that too. There is a utility called shroom (SHROOM2D.ZIP I think) which writes out the conventional memory to disk before spawning a new process, and reloads it on the way back in. This may assist you, if PC-PINE does the same sort of spawning - many such mailers do. Using shroom, you can get waffle to run on an XT! Cheers John _--_|\ John Lamp, originating in Hobart, Tasmania / \ Phone: 002 20 2957 - Fax: 002 34 5685 \_.--._/ email: jw_lamp@postoffice.utas.edu.au v <----------<<< jw_lamp@calvados.apana.org.au On Sat, 9 Apr 1994, Ian Lumb wrote: > My only problem seems to be that I keep running out of memory on my 286! > I assume that PC-Pine runs in conventional memory, and is thus limited by > the famous 640K MS-DOS barrier. I've killed all unecessary TSRs, but there > are still problems. In prticular, I've found that I can reply to a first > message, but that replying to a second one usually results in not enough > memory errors. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 9 22:31:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11659; Sat, 9 Apr 94 22:31:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07314; Sat, 9 Apr 94 22:18:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from cs1.bradley.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07307; Sat, 9 Apr 94 22:18:03 -0700 Received: by cs1.bradley.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00738; Sun, 10 Apr 94 00:18:02 CDT Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 00:18:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Matt Simmons Subject: Multiple Folders enhancement requests To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Could you implement the following enhancements for the multiple mail folders: Notification when mail shows up in other folders Have TAB step through each new message instead of jumping immediately to the next one Have TAB mark the messages it steps through as deleted, and have the user hit u for the messages they want to keep. (This would help immensely for 100 mesg/day mailing lists) Have TAB skip inboxes with no messages in them. Have Julia Roberts take some whipped cream and.. Whoops, wrong list.. =) _________ |_ __ \ U R D U E U N I V E R S I T Y Womens 94 NCAA Final Four | |__| | Currently: zarthac@cs1.bradley.edu Bradley University | ____/ zarthac@camelot.bradley.edu Peoria, Illinois | | Spring 94 - Soph by years, Junior by credits _| |_ Fall 94 - Junior by years, Soph by credits - Only Purdue makes |______| U R D U E U N I V E R S I T Y it possible From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 9 23:13:29 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12195; Sat, 9 Apr 94 23:13:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05955; Sat, 9 Apr 94 23:01:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shark.mel.dit.CSIRO.AU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05949; Sat, 9 Apr 94 23:01:23 -0700 Received: by shark.mel.dit.csiro.au id AA29615 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4/DIT-1.3 for Pine Mailing List ); Sun, 10 Apr 1994 16:01:32 +1000 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 16:01:32 +1000 (EST) From: Simon McClenahan Subject: Re: Multiple Folders enhancement requests To: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 10 Apr 1994, Matt Simmons wrote: > Have TAB mark the messages it steps through as deleted, and have the user > hit u for the messages they want to keep. (This would help immensely for > 100 mesg/day mailing lists) Or ... subscribe to mailing lists in a DIGEST FORMAT ... unlike this one! > Have Julia Roberts take some whipped cream and.. Whoops, wrong list.. =) She wouldn't have time to do anything with foodstuffs if she subscribed to a mailing list that had lots and lots of messages per day and had no DIGEST FORMAT subscription. :) cheers, Simon.McClenahan@mel.dit.csiro.au \CSIRO Supercomputing Support Group CSIRO Division of Information Technology\ tel: +61 3 282 2623 723 Swanston St, Carlton 3053 AUSTRALIA \ fax: +61 3 282 2600 Klein bottle for rent - apply within. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 10 00:04:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12770; Sun, 10 Apr 94 00:04:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08520; Sat, 9 Apr 94 23:52:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [202.12.88.9] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08514; Sat, 9 Apr 94 23:52:43 -0700 Return-Path: Received: by budge (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0ppaIg-000161C; Sat, 9 Apr 94 20:30 EST Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 20:30:04 +0000 From: Subject: Re: Pine over Dialup Lines To: "Thomas E. Rutledge, III" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Thomas E. Rutledge, III wrote: > In the Main Menu Help, section 6 (of the Table of contents) mentions that > > "Pine can usually recognize when it is being used over a low speed > dialup line via a modem. In this case it will show the current > message in the index with a '->' instead of showing it all in > reverse video." > > This does not seem to work here, and our best guess at this time is that > we dial into (Xyplex) terminal servers, and the terminal server then > connects to the unix machine via ethernet (which is NOT low speed). > > Does anyone have anything to add to this, or is our guess the correct one? I've noticed similar with modems - the interface to the modem is probably running at a fixed high baud rate, even if the data rate is low. Another way to set the '->' mode, or an option to set it as default may be a good thing. Charlie Brady * (W) charlieb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au * (H) charlieb@budge.apana.org.au "Make it as simple as possible - | Tel: (02) 413 6838 ____Telectronics__| /\__ but no simpler" Einstein, A | Fax: (02) 413 6868 Pacing Systems \/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 10 01:40:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14367; Sun, 10 Apr 94 01:40:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09635; Sun, 10 Apr 94 01:25:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09629; Sun, 10 Apr 94 01:25:45 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06873; Sun, 10 Apr 94 01:25:17 -0700 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 01:25:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: charlieb@budge.apana.org.au Cc: "Thomas E. Rutledge, III" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine over Dialup Lines In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You can probably fix this with the command "stty 1200" to tell the unix system you are at a low speed. Since it communicates using TCP/IP (or whatever) it doesn't know the speed automatically. There will be an option to force low speed behavior in the next version. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Sat, 9 Apr 1994 charlieb@budge.apana.org.au wrote: > > On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Thomas E. Rutledge, III wrote: > > > In the Main Menu Help, section 6 (of the Table of contents) mentions that > > > > "Pine can usually recognize when it is being used over a low speed > > dialup line via a modem. In this case it will show the current > > message in the index with a '->' instead of showing it all in > > reverse video." > > > > This does not seem to work here, and our best guess at this time is that > > we dial into (Xyplex) terminal servers, and the terminal server then > > connects to the unix machine via ethernet (which is NOT low speed). > > > > Does anyone have anything to add to this, or is our guess the correct one? > > I've noticed similar with modems - the interface to the modem is probably > running at a fixed high baud rate, even if the data rate is low. > > Another way to set the '->' mode, or an option to set it as default may > be a good thing. > > Charlie Brady * (W) charlieb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au * (H) charlieb@budge.apana.org.au > "Make it as simple as possible - | Tel: (02) 413 6838 ____Telectronics__| /\__ > but no simpler" Einstein, A | Fax: (02) 413 6868 Pacing Systems \/ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 10 07:42:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18663; Sun, 10 Apr 94 07:42:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14114; Sun, 10 Apr 94 07:27:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from isumataq.eskimo.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14108; Sun, 10 Apr 94 07:27:42 -0700 Received: by isumataq.eskimo.com (5.65c/1.35) id AA20771; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 07:27:31 -0700 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 07:27:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Putnam Barber Subject: Problem with commas in addresses To: PINE mailing list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I recently used "Take Address" to add a name like "Thomas J. Watson, Jr." to my pine address book (without difficulty). When I grabbed this address into the To: field while composing, pine split the field into two "addresses" at the comma. The mail showed up in my inbox as "undeliverable" To: Thomas@isumataq.eskimo.com ('cause I didn't pay attention to the brief that happened as I exited the To: field and there's no local user here with the name "Thomas" -- if there were, he would of course have gotten a strange piece of mail and I might never have known something was amiss). After a while I sorted this out, and have now taken the comma out of the entry in the address book. So there's no immediate need for help on this particular problem. But the situation seems clumsy. If commas are going to produce that sort of result, then there should be a more emphatic way of preventing them from being inadvertantly included within the ""s. Putnam Barber Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 10 09:49:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20004; Sun, 10 Apr 94 09:49:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13747; Sun, 10 Apr 94 09:32:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail.swip.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13741; Sun, 10 Apr 94 09:32:43 -0700 Received: by mail.swip.net (8.6.8/2.01) id SAA11858; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 18:32:40 +0200 Received: by datan.sk.uppsala.se (4.1/Uppsala-930825-1) id AA26155; Sun, 10 Apr 94 18:31:26 +0200 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 94 18:31:26 +0200 Message-Id: <9404101631.AA26155@datan.sk.uppsala.se> From: Klaus Zeuge To: dlm@cac.washington.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: David L Miller's message of Fri, 8 Apr 1994 08:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: deleting multiple messages >Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 08:57:34 -0700 (PDT) >From: David L Miller >"execute pine in shell scripts" is definitely on the long-list. One of the >ways we determine the priority of items on the list is how often they are >mentioned. If we posted the list, that feedback might not come in... Is this a good algorithm? People on the list who have seen one thing requested in the last X months, will they request it again? I suspect the algorithm will make newcomer's wishes carry more weight than they should. I might be wrong. (Just for the sake of it, I'll mention RFC 1522 again :-) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 10 15:27:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23613; Sun, 10 Apr 94 15:27:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18047; Sun, 10 Apr 94 15:13:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post1.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18041; Sun, 10 Apr 94 15:12:57 -0700 Received: from ecstest.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HB0J5YR4K08ZFYNX@asu.edu>; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 15:14:11 MST Received: from ECSTEST.ASU.EDU ([129.219.3.7]) by ecstest.asu.edu with SMTP id <113393>; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 15:12:47 -0700 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 15:11:42 -0700 From: Shahjehan Khatri Subject: How to subscribe to newsgroups with Pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Priority: Normal Hello! How can one tell which newsgroups are available on a news host using Pine? I don't think it has newsgroup subscription support yet. Is the "Spring" version of Pine going to have subscription support? What's the best workaround now? Copy the entire list of newsgroups to each person's account? Also, will the next version allow one to post an article to a newsgroup? Will that be through NNTP, through SMTP (e.g., ZMailer), or something else? Many thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 10 17:42:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24917; Sun, 10 Apr 94 17:42:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19664; Sun, 10 Apr 94 17:27:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post1.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19658; Sun, 10 Apr 94 17:27:51 -0700 Received: from enuxsa.eas.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HB0NV4XQGG8ZG3IW@asu.edu>; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 17:29:01 MST Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 17:30:20 -0700 (MST) From: Kevin Pinto Subject: Re: Multiple Folders enhancement requests In-Reply-To: To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT On Sun, 10 Apr 1994, Matt Simmons wrote: > Could you implement the following enhancements for the multiple mail folders: > [...] > > Have TAB skip inboxes with no messages in them. > I second this. Regards, Kevin ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Pinto, Chem Engg, ASU, Tempe, AZ My mailer understands MIME "Beware of reading health books; you may die of a misprint" - Mark Twain "An armed society is a polite society" - Beyond This Horizon, Robert Heinlein From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 03:09:29 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01676; Mon, 11 Apr 94 03:09:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26708; Mon, 11 Apr 94 02:28:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from gray.csi.cam.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26702; Mon, 11 Apr 94 02:27:57 -0700 Received: from quinag.csi.cam.ac.uk by ppsw1.cam.ac.uk with SMTP-CAM (PP-6.0) as ppsw.cam.ac.uk id <13528-0@ppsw1.cam.ac.uk>; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 10:27:50 +0100 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 10:27:41 BST From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: deleting multiple messages To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: bl10@imap.cus.cam.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <9404101631.AA26155@datan.sk.uppsala.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 10 Apr 1994, Klaus Zeuge wrote: > > >Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 08:57:34 -0700 (PDT) > >From: David L Miller > > >"execute pine in shell scripts" is definitely on the long-list. One of the > >ways we determine the priority of items on the list is how often they are > >mentioned. If we posted the list, that feedback might not come in... > Just to be on the safe side, can I second the wish? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 04:20:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03451; Mon, 11 Apr 94 04:20:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29108; Mon, 11 Apr 94 03:50:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from dshp04.trs.ntc.nokia.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29102; Mon, 11 Apr 94 03:50:09 -0700 Received: from dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com by dshp04.trs.ntc.nokia.com with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19458; Mon, 11 Apr 94 13:06:33 +0300 Received: by dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12297; Mon, 11 Apr 94 13:06:32 +0300 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 13:06:32 +0300 (EETDST) From: Ian Leiman Subject: SPRUCE status report (Re: Pine Motif) To: Michael Stokes Cc: Pine Info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 10 Apr 1994, Michael Stokes wrote: > > Just checking to see how the work is progressing. I poked around on cac > and didn't see anything that looked like it had MOTIF in it. Could you give > me a status report? I just returned from a long vacation and looks like there's a pile of work waiting to be done... The 'Pine Motif' program will be named SPRUCE to avoid confusion and it will actually look quite different from PINE anyway. I will post status reports of the SPRUCE project here and keep online documentation in the World Wide Web. Look for this URL: http://dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com:3000/Spruce/Spruce.html The document is still under construction. It is formatted for Mosaic and will include graphics eventually. If you don't have a clue what is WWW and an URL, better find out soon... STATUS REPORT: Before I left for vacation I was working on the message sending part and should get message send to work within few hours of work as soon as I can allocate those hours. This part has required a lot of work, as I will have to do lot of changes. Some additional code to allow addressbook updating and manipulating folders and folder collections will bring SPRUCE up to PINE functionality. Then I need to add a simple on-line help and documentation. Then I think it makes sense to release it. SPRUCE project runs at a low priority so it is difficult to estimate a date. Before May, I hope?? Like all software projects, this one runs behind its schedule too... Some people have already volunteered to test and possibly port SPRUCE onto other platforms than my own HP730. More volunteers are welcome. A binary executable for HP73x running HP/UX 9.01 is available for evaluation. -- Ian Leiman, M.Sc. phone +358 0 5104 4453, fax +358 0 5104 4764 ian.leiman@ntc.nokia.com homepage: http://dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com:3000/~leiman/index.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 12:01:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14887; Mon, 11 Apr 94 12:01:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07616; Mon, 11 Apr 94 11:39:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from acad.csv.kutztown.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07608; Mon, 11 Apr 94 11:39:21 -0700 Received: by acad.csv.kutztown.edu (5.65/1.35) id AA03827; Mon, 11 Apr 94 14:40:21 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:40:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lisa M. Frye" Subject: Security on PC-Pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What is the statis of security on PC-pine. In particular, is anything planned for development that will prevent a user from walking up to a PC, running PC-pine and sending mail as the user logged into the PC? Or, what are other sites doing to help prevent or curb this possibility? Lisa Frye frye@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Network Software Specialist LMS Annex Room 105 Kutztown University phone: 610-683-4474 Kutztown, PA. 19530 fax: 610-683-4634 "You can bring a person to the university, but you can't make him think." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 12:08:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15143; Mon, 11 Apr 94 12:08:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07646; Mon, 11 Apr 94 11:40:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from acad.csv.kutztown.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07640; Mon, 11 Apr 94 11:40:40 -0700 Received: by acad.csv.kutztown.edu (5.65/1.35) id AA03850; Mon, 11 Apr 94 14:41:49 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:41:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lisa M. Frye" Subject: PC-Pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Why, when I log into PC-pine and mis-type my password, do I get the message "Preserve password on DISK for next login?". What does this message mean? Lisa Frye frye@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Network Software Specialist LMS Annex Room 105 Kutztown University phone: 610-683-4474 Kutztown, PA. 19530 fax: 610-683-4634 "You can bring a person to the university, but you can't make him think." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 14:07:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19041; Mon, 11 Apr 94 14:07:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09214; Mon, 11 Apr 94 13:48:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from solix.fiu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09208; Mon, 11 Apr 94 13:48:09 -0700 Received: from scs.fiu.edu by fiu.edu (4.1/SMI/FIU-4.0.2) id AA23291; Mon, 11 Apr 94 16:48:37 EDT Received: by scs.fiu.edu (4.1) id AA20020; Mon, 11 Apr 94 16:48:02 EDT Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 16:46:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Cory Tsang Subject: Thanks To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks for all the responses. Sorry for wasting your time. I could have sworn, though, that when I was reading the docs for pine a few months back, I saw mention that it required Motif and that is why I laid off the compile to do other things. Obviously I remember incorrectly. Thanks again, Cory ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cory Tsang Programmer/Analyst Office: (305) 348-2739 School of Computer Science, MS ECS354 Fax : (305) 348-3549 Florida International University 9:30 am - 1:30 pm M-F Miami, FL 33199 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 15:31:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21783; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:31:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11911; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:06:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11905; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:06:23 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24546; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:06:20 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 15:06:19 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Ian Lumb Cc: PINE INFO Subject: Re: PC-Pine via PPP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ian, The minimum free memory for PC-Pine is about 500k. Below that and you are pretty much out of luck. More will be used if available (within the infamous 640k boundaries). There are also memory fragmentation problems that will gradually eat away at the useable memory, so you may need to restart Pine periodically. It should be able to handle more than one reply before running out though ;) Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 9 Apr 1994, Ian Lumb wrote: > Greetings:- > > Although my efforts to get PC-Pine running via SLIP have been unsuccessful > to date, I have been using PC-Pine via PPP for a few days now. I think > it's pretty incredible that my very modest 286 equipped with a high-speed > modem, allows me to run the Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) packet driver, > and thus become and Internet node and run PC-Pine! > > My only problem seems to be that I keep running out of memory on my 286! > I assume that PC-Pine runs in conventional memory, and is thus limited by > the famous 640K MS-DOS barrier. I've killed all unecessary TSRs, but there > are still problems. In prticular, I've found that I can reply to a first > message, but that replying to a second one usually results in not enough > memory errors. > > I would like to know how much memory PC-Pine requires, and if there are > any other suggestions for reducing memory demands when PC-Pine is > operating ... > > Thx, > > Ian. > > -- > Ian Lumb Internet: > Earth & Atmospheric Science, York University > North York, Ontario M3J 1P3, CANADA > Voice: (416) 736-5245; Fax: (416) 736-5817 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 15:32:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21830; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:32:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12111; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:15:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12105; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:15:52 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24794; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:15:47 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 15:15:47 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Putnam Barber Cc: PINE mailing list Subject: Re: Enhancement request...or how-to? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Putnam, In Pine 3.90, ^Y and ^V will take you into and out of the header, ^W^V will "search for end" and ^W^Y will "search for top". Thanks for the suggestions! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 9 Apr 1994, Putnam Barber wrote: > > Two things I'd like to be able to do: > > 1. Jump directly into the (and out of) the header area to make > adjustments while composing text. What I do now is page to the top and > then use ^P. I'd be happy to learn an easier way. > > 2. Jump directly to the top (or bottom) of the text without repetitive > use of ^Y or ^V. That would help with wish #1, of course, but it would > be useful for many other purposes. Workarounds: at the end, ^W for some > arbitrary character likely to be in the first line (an "a"). Search > wraps and deposits you there. Or ^O to postpone and then C to resume, > which also starts you over at the top. Any way to get to the bottom? > > Thank you considering these wishes. > > Putnam Barber > Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 16:13:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23121; Mon, 11 Apr 94 16:13:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11702; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:47:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11696; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:47:41 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25486; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:47:38 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 15:47:37 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Matt Simmons Cc: Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: Multiple Folders enhancement requests In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 10 Apr 1994, Matt Simmons wrote: > Could you implement the following enhancements for the multiple mail folders: > > Notification when mail shows up in other folders > We are trying to come up with a way to do this for the incoming-folders collection without being an inordinate resource hog. There is a glimmer of hope on the horizon, but it is not quite here yet. > Have TAB step through each new message instead of jumping immediately to > the next one > I must be missing something here. Could you restate this point? > Have TAB mark the messages it steps through as deleted, and have the user > hit u for the messages they want to keep. (This would help immensely for > 100 mesg/day mailing lists) > I'll add this to the requested enhancement list. > Have TAB skip inboxes with no messages in them. > This ties in with your first request. Both of these will be easy when the driver-level issues get ironed out. > Have Julia Roberts take some whipped cream and.. Whoops, wrong list.. =) Hmmm... :) > _________ > |_ __ \ U R D U E U N I V E R S I T Y Womens 94 NCAA Final Four > | |__| | Currently: zarthac@cs1.bradley.edu Bradley University > | ____/ zarthac@camelot.bradley.edu Peoria, Illinois > | | Spring 94 - Soph by years, Junior by credits > _| |_ Fall 94 - Junior by years, Soph by credits - Only Purdue makes > |______| U R D U E U N I V E R S I T Y it possible > Thanks for the suggestions! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 16:18:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23343; Mon, 11 Apr 94 16:18:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11920; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:59:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11914; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:59:30 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25884; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:59:09 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 15:59:08 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Shahjehan Khatri Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to subscribe to newsgroups with Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Shahjehan, The "spring" release of Pine will include subscription and posting via NNTP. Currently the best work-around is to use trn, tin, nn, etc for subscription/posting. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 10 Apr 1994, Shahjehan Khatri wrote: > Hello! How can one tell which newsgroups are available on a news host using > Pine? I don't think it has newsgroup subscription support yet. Is the > "Spring" version of Pine going to have subscription support? What's the > best workaround now? Copy the entire list of newsgroups to each person's > account? > > Also, will the next version allow one to post an article to a newsgroup? > Will that be through NNTP, through SMTP (e.g., ZMailer), or something else? > > Many thanks. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 17:19:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25860; Mon, 11 Apr 94 17:19:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14204; Mon, 11 Apr 94 17:03:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14198; Mon, 11 Apr 94 17:03:33 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27925; Mon, 11 Apr 94 17:03:21 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 17:03:21 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Martin Zhang Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: signoff In-Reply-To: <9404071446.AA14626@marimba.cellbio.duke.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Send a message to majordomo@cac.washington.edu with "unsubscribe pine-info" in the body of the message. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Martin Zhang wrote: > > Sorry, I deleted the information about how to unsubscribe this > group. I will appreciate it if some one can forward me the > information. > > Thanks. > > -Martin > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 20:17:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28827; Mon, 11 Apr 94 20:17:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16485; Mon, 11 Apr 94 20:01:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from cs1.bradley.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16479; Mon, 11 Apr 94 20:01:11 -0700 Received: by cs1.bradley.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08020; Mon, 11 Apr 94 22:01:09 CDT Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 22:01:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Matt Simmons Subject: Re: Multiple Folders enhancement requests To: David L Miller Cc: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 11 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > We are trying to come up with a way to do this for the incoming-folders > collection without being an inordinate resource hog. There is a glimmer > of hope on the horizon, but it is not quite here yet. Perhaps you could let the user specify which folders to monitor? Since you've jumped to 3 minutes, this shouldn't suck too much time... > > Have TAB step through each new message instead of jumping immediately to > > the next one > I must be missing something here. Could you restate this point? Have TAB function like the space bar, paging through the message, and jumping to the next unread one when it hits the end of the one its on. > > Have Julia Roberts take some whipped cream and.. Whoops, wrong list.. =) > Hmmm... :) Is that a Hmmm... maybe I'll let you have her when I'm done.. ?=) _________ |_ __ \ U R D U E U N I V E R S I T Y Womens 94 NCAA Final Four | |__| | Currently: zarthac@cs1.bradley.edu Bradley University | ____/ zarthac@camelot.bradley.edu Peoria, Illinois | | Spring 94 - Soph by years, Junior by credits _| |_ Fall 94 - Junior by years, Soph by credits - Only Purdue makes |______| U R D U E U N I V E R S I T Y it possible From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 20:45:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29240; Mon, 11 Apr 94 20:45:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16893; Mon, 11 Apr 94 20:31:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from unet.Net.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16887; Mon, 11 Apr 94 20:31:50 -0700 Received: from jello.net.com by unet.net.com (4.1/UNET-1.1) id AA02808; Mon, 11 Apr 94 20:32:38 PDT Received: from guinness.net.com by jello.net.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17649; Mon, 11 Apr 94 20:32:05 PDT Date: Mon, 11 Apr 94 20:32:05 PDT From: mayeda@jello.net.com (Steve Mayeda) Message-Id: <9404120332.AA17649@jello.net.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 21:14:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29667; Mon, 11 Apr 94 21:14:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17879; Mon, 11 Apr 94 21:00:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [202.12.88.9] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17854; Mon, 11 Apr 94 20:59:55 -0700 Return-Path: Received: by budge (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0ppyc1-00012RC; Sun, 10 Apr 94 22:27 EST Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 22:27:40 +0000 From: Subject: Re: Pine over Dialup Lines To: Steve Hubert Cc: "Thomas E. Rutledge, III" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 10 Apr 1994, Steve Hubert wrote: > You can probably fix this with the command "stty 1200" to tell the unix > system you are at a low speed. Since it communicates using TCP/IP (or > whatever) it doesn't know the speed automatically. Well, no. If one is dialing in on a modem which is locked to a high rate on the host computer interface end, the host *cannot* tell what speed the modems are running at, and "stty 1200" will block all communication. So the coming option will be welcome. Charlie Brady * (W) charlieb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au * (H) charlieb@budge.apana.org.au "Make it as simple as possible - | Tel: (02) 413 6838 ____Telectronics__| /\__ but no simpler" Einstein, A | Fax: (02) 413 6868 Pacing Systems \/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 22:32:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00850; Mon, 11 Apr 94 22:32:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18358; Mon, 11 Apr 94 22:17:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from cs1.bradley.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18352; Mon, 11 Apr 94 22:17:02 -0700 Received: by cs1.bradley.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11031; Tue, 12 Apr 94 00:17:01 CDT Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 00:17:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Matt Simmons Subject: Yet another request To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please oh please kill the delays between the messages! It is particularly annoying when you switch folders, and have to wait 20 seconds for the status messages to catch up so you can read the stuff in the box. Also, switching folders via TAB is inconsistent... When switching from any folder other than INBOX to another folder (this time it could be INBOX), you are asked if you want to delete messages tagged for deletion. However, when you switch from INBOX to another folder, you are not asked, and deleted messages are not deleted.. could this be fixed? Idea for the resource hogging inbox checking: Put a flag in the system wide pine configuration so the sysadmins can determine whether they want the users to suck up time polling multiple inboxes... Though isn't checking for new mail trivial, as all you have to do is keep track of the times (or sizes) on each one, and then checking the full box only when the size changes? _________ |_ __ \ U R D U E U N I V E R S I T Y Womens 94 NCAA Final Four | |__| | Currently: zarthac@cs1.bradley.edu Bradley University | ____/ zarthac@camelot.bradley.edu Peoria, Illinois | | Spring 94 - Soph by years, Junior by credits _| |_ Fall 94 - Junior by years, Soph by credits - Only Purdue makes |______| U R D U E U N I V E R S I T Y it possible From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 22:51:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01198; Mon, 11 Apr 94 22:51:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18675; Mon, 11 Apr 94 22:38:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18669; Mon, 11 Apr 94 22:38:27 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16342; Mon, 11 Apr 94 22:37:37 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 22:37:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: charlieb@budge.apana.org.au Cc: "Thomas E. Rutledge, III" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine over Dialup Lines In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Right, but I think that a majority of dialin users nowdays come in through a terminal server which is then connected to the host through something like telnet or rlogin. In that case, there is no "speed" of the telnet connection, so you can set it to whatever you want. If your modem is hardwired to the host computer, you're stuck for now. (And, of course, the option should be more convenient than typing stty commands, too.) Steve On Sun, 10 Apr 1994 charlieb@budge.apana.org.au wrote: > > On Sun, 10 Apr 1994, Steve Hubert wrote: > > > You can probably fix this with the command "stty 1200" to tell the unix > > system you are at a low speed. Since it communicates using TCP/IP (or > > whatever) it doesn't know the speed automatically. > > Well, no. If one is dialing in on a modem which is locked to a high rate > on the host computer interface end, the host *cannot* tell what speed the > modems are running at, and "stty 1200" will block all communication. > > So the coming option will be welcome. > > Charlie Brady * (W) charlieb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au * (H) charlieb@budge.apana.org.au > "Make it as simple as possible - | Tel: (02) 413 6838 ____Telectronics__| /\__ > but no simpler" Einstein, A | Fax: (02) 413 6868 Pacing Systems \/ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 23:15:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01499; Mon, 11 Apr 94 23:15:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18939; Mon, 11 Apr 94 22:54:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from coyote.rain.org by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18933; Mon, 11 Apr 94 22:54:43 -0700 Received: by rain.org (4.1/25-eef) id AA23548; Mon, 11 Apr 94 22:52:35 PDT Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 22:52:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe McDonald Subject: subscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII subscribe me \|/ (o o) _____________oOO__(_)__OOo_______________ | Joe McDonald (joe@rain.org) | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 08:42:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11235; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:42:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27388; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:18:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27382; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:18:36 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04661; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:18:33 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 08:18:32 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Matt Simmons Cc: Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: Yet another request In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII See below... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, Matt Simmons wrote: > Please oh please kill the delays between the messages! It is > particularly annoying when you switch folders, and have to wait 20 > seconds for the status messages to catch up so you can read the stuff in > the box. > We *do* need to work on the message generation code. Thanks for prodding us to work on it ;) > Also, switching folders via TAB is inconsistent... When switching from any > folder other than INBOX to another folder (this time it could be INBOX), > you are asked if you want to delete messages tagged for deletion. > However, when you switch from INBOX to another folder, you are not asked, > and deleted messages are not deleted.. could this be fixed? > This is because the INBOX is not closed when you leave it. All other folders are closed when you leave them for another folder. Admittedly that technique does lead to some consistency problems... > Idea for the resource hogging inbox checking: Put a flag in the system > wide pine configuration so the sysadmins can determine whether they want > the users to suck up time polling multiple inboxes... Though isn't > checking for new mail trivial, as all you have to do is keep track of the > times (or sizes) on each one, and then checking the full box only when > the size changes? > Currently, Pine does not have a mechanism to make that simple of a check. The current new-mail-check code actually parses the new messages which is much more time consuming. We have made a request for a fast-check c-client routine, but I don't think it is ready yet.... > _________ > |_ __ \ U R D U E U N I V E R S I T Y Womens 94 NCAA Final Four > | |__| | Currently: zarthac@cs1.bradley.edu Bradley University > | ____/ zarthac@camelot.bradley.edu Peoria, Illinois > | | Spring 94 - Soph by years, Junior by credits > _| |_ Fall 94 - Junior by years, Soph by credits - Only Purdue makes > |______| U R D U E U N I V E R S I T Y it possible > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 08:44:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11429; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:44:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26989; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:18:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26977; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:18:00 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA15397; Tue, 12 Apr 94 11:17:52 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA21615; Tue, 12 Apr 94 11:18:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 11:18:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: Pine and News To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII For some reason, when I first subscribed to this list, and when I compiled pine on my system and first started to play with it, I got the understanding that pine did News stuff. Don't remember exactly what it was that gave me that impression, but I do remember that people have talked a bit about it. I can't seem to find any feature in pine 3.89 which points toward an ability to read and post news. Please let me know if this is a future enhancement, or if there's something I'm totally overlooking... **************************************************************************** ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 09:07:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12822; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:07:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27526; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:39:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27512; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:39:11 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA16289; Tue, 12 Apr 94 11:39:06 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA21646; Tue, 12 Apr 94 11:39:34 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 11:39:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests To: "Andrew B. Sweger" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Andrew Douglas Inman , David L Miller In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is a great idea. Then, also, if any of those hackers do come up with some good code that they would be willing to share, they could submit that to the pine crew as part of the next release. That way, pine people don't have to do it all... **************************************************************************** ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! **************************************************************************** On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Andrew B. Sweger wrote: > On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > Andrew, > [items deleted] > > There are some legal and political roadblocks to be passed before we would be > > comfortable adding PGP support. > > > > --DLM > [items deleted] > > Perhaps a future version of pine could have appropriate locations > for hooks to various privacy packages to be added by the installer (but > not provided in the distribution). Maybe user installable menu commands > (e.g., Sign Message (specify MIME part number), Encrypt MIME part) would > be possible for the hacker (site implementor?). This doesn't solve all the > legal or political roadblocks, but does put some distance from the problem > and gives some folks a solution. The hooks don't have to be strictly for > PGP, any package would apply. (IMHO, ignorant as it is) -Andy > > -- > / Andrew B. Sweger absweger@u.washington.edu > // Computer Support Manager csg@fammed.washington.edu > \\ Department of Family Medicine, HQ-30 (206) 543-2461 (Office) > // UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON (206) 685-4337 (Voice Mail) > / Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 685-0610 (FAX) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. > ============================================================================== > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 09:11:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13017; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:11:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27789; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:49:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27783; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:49:25 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05295; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:49:15 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 08:49:15 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Bruce Mahfood Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and News In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Bruce, Pine 3.89 has very limited *read-only* news support. You can eneble this by setting the "news-collections" variable in your .pinerc file to point to your news server. You will also need a .newsrc file generated by some other newsreader... Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, Bruce Mahfood wrote: > For some reason, when I first subscribed to this list, and when I > compiled pine on my system and first started to play with it, I got the > understanding that pine did News stuff. Don't remember exactly what it > was that gave me that impression, but I do remember that people have > talked a bit about it. I can't seem to find any feature in pine 3.89 > which points toward an ability to read and post news. Please let me know > if this is a future enhancement, or if there's something I'm totally > overlooking... > > **************************************************************************** > ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! > ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! > ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! > ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! > **************************************************************************** > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 09:11:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13088; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:11:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28099; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:51:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28093; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:51:52 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05335; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:51:40 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 08:51:39 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Bruce Mahfood Cc: "Andrew B. Sweger" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Andrew Douglas Inman Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Bruce, Unfortunately the contributed code has to get past the same roadblocks as any code we would write. We have already been offered a couple PGP patches for Pine, but we cannot do anything with them until the legal dust settles :( Thanks for the suggestion! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, Bruce Mahfood wrote: > This is a great idea. Then, also, if any of those hackers do come up > with some good code that they would be willing to share, they could > submit that to the pine crew as part of the next release. That way, pine > people don't have to do it all... > > **************************************************************************** > ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! > ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! > ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! > ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! > **************************************************************************** > > On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Andrew B. Sweger wrote: > > > On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > > > > Andrew, > > [items deleted] > > > There are some legal and political roadblocks to be passed before we would be > > > comfortable adding PGP support. > > > > > > --DLM > > [items deleted] > > > > Perhaps a future version of pine could have appropriate locations > > for hooks to various privacy packages to be added by the installer (but > > not provided in the distribution). Maybe user installable menu commands > > (e.g., Sign Message (specify MIME part number), Encrypt MIME part) would > > be possible for the hacker (site implementor?). This doesn't solve all the > > legal or political roadblocks, but does put some distance from the problem > > and gives some folks a solution. The hooks don't have to be strictly for > > PGP, any package would apply. (IMHO, ignorant as it is) -Andy > > > > -- > > / Andrew B. Sweger absweger@u.washington.edu > > // Computer Support Manager csg@fammed.washington.edu > > \\ Department of Family Medicine, HQ-30 (206) 543-2461 (Office) > > // UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON (206) 685-4337 (Voice Mail) > > / Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 685-0610 (FAX) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. > > ============================================================================== > > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 09:12:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13128; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:12:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27801; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:49:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27795; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:49:40 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA16587; Tue, 12 Apr 94 11:49:28 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA21664; Tue, 12 Apr 94 11:49:56 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 11:49:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: Re: This pine-info mailing list To: Simon McClenahan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was just talking to a colleague, and he said that his softball list has two modes. 1) Full mailings, 2) Collective mailings every 6 hours. The collective mailings are done such thatk, every 6 hours a file has been kept of all mailers that came since that last collective posting, and then, after 6 hours, that file is mailed to everyone on the collective mailing list. The list server is smart enough to be able to arrange that, at the beginning of the 6 hour mailer, an index of subject lines is found to be able to help you browse the file, instead of getting caught with this huge file that you feel you have to read every line of. It's an idea... **************************************************************************** ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! **************************************************************************** On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Simon McClenahan wrote: > Hi, > As much as I like to watch and _sometimes_ participate in > discussions on pine, I think there is a NEED for this list to be able to > be distributed in digest format.... please? > > I'll assume that another 50% of pine-info subscribers would quote > the above text and write "me too!" down the bottom :) > > > cheers, > > Simon.McClenahan@mel.dit.csiro.au \CSIRO Supercomputing Support Group > CSIRO Division of Information Technology\ tel: +61 3 282 2623 > 723 Swanston St, Carlton 3053 AUSTRALIA \ fax: +61 3 282 2600 > I'm pink, therefore I'm spam. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 09:23:59 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13614; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:23:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28144; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:02:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28138; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:02:28 -0700 Received: by ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04650; Tue, 12 Apr 94 12:02:21 EDT Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 11:54:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Schlitt Subject: Re: Yet another request To: David L Miller Cc: Matt Simmons , Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would not want you to close the inbox (and thus delete messages marked for deletion) when you move to another folder from the inbox. I'm not sure what you do with the inconsistent appearance to the user, but the current behaviour is correct. I often want to refer to a saved message in a folder while I am going through my inbox and I may also want to go back and refer to a messsage that I have marked for deletion. I want to mark them for deletion when I read them but that doesn't mean that I am completely through with them. A later message in a thread may prompt me to go back and look again. /dan -- Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 09:51:22 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14445; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:51:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29098; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:32:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29090; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:32:40 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA17942; Tue, 12 Apr 94 12:32:35 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA21797; Tue, 12 Apr 94 12:32:59 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 12:32:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: News on pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sorry about my earlier message, but, after doing some more searching, I found I had not set my news-collections= option in my .pinerc. So now I am running with both news and mail. That's great. Only one thing that could be a suggestion for pine 3.9. If the listing of newsgroups could be made such that I could see a count of how many unread entries there were, I would feel a lot less anxious. As it is, I subscribe to so many newsgroups that, if I cannot see that info in front of me, I will find myself reading every single group, not knowing whether I needed to. I really don't have the time, with my job, to be bouncing around newsgroups. Please consider this suggestion. As a matter of fact, what would be cool is a menu option that allows flipping back and forth between a simple listing of newsgroups and a numbered listing. That option could be controlled by a .pinerc option which would turn it on or off, and by an option that, if this were switched on, would allow you to select which mode was to be the default every time you first get in... **************************************************************************** ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 09:56:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14593; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:56:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29267; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:39:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29259; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:38:59 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA18104; Tue, 12 Apr 94 12:38:54 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA21818; Tue, 12 Apr 94 12:39:23 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 12:39:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: News in pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How does one subscribe and unsubscribe in pine? I have looked at the options available and have hit "?" to get the help screen. The options and help seem very mail oriented and say nothing about news. Even when you want to go to a group the option is called something like "go to folder." Please let me know if there is an option in my .pinerc that I am not activating or something... **************************************************************************** ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 10:18:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15532; Tue, 12 Apr 94 10:18:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29873; Tue, 12 Apr 94 10:04:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from hertz.asso.etsmtl.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29857; Tue, 12 Apr 94 10:04:46 -0700 Received: by asso.etsmtl.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15114; Tue, 12 Apr 94 11:43:00 EDT Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 11:42:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Roy Subject: Re: Pine and News To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > Bruce, > > Pine 3.89 has very limited *read-only* news support. You can eneble this by > setting the "news-collections" variable in your .pinerc file to point to your > news server. You will also need a .newsrc file generated by some other > newsreader... Sorry to barge in but does Pine use the NNTP type of connection to read the news??? Thanks. Pierre > > Thanks for the request! > > --DLM > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, Bruce Mahfood wrote: > > > For some reason, when I first subscribed to this list, and when I > > compiled pine on my system and first started to play with it, I got the > > understanding that pine did News stuff. Don't remember exactly what it > > was that gave me that impression, but I do remember that people have > > talked a bit about it. I can't seem to find any feature in pine 3.89 > > which points toward an ability to read and post news. Please let me know > > if this is a future enhancement, or if there's something I'm totally > > overlooking... > > > > **************************************************************************** > > ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! > > ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! > > ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! > > ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! > > **************************************************************************** > > > Pierre Roy Porretta Ecole de technologie superieure (ETS) Tel:(514) 289-8883 AEETS Fax:(514) 289-9480 e-mail:Pierre@asso.ETSmtl.ca Root@asso.ETSmtl.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 10:44:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16476; Tue, 12 Apr 94 10:44:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00283; Tue, 12 Apr 94 10:13:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from cd1.lrz-muenchen.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00271; Tue, 12 Apr 94 10:13:02 -0700 Received: from sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de by cd1.lrz-muenchen.de; Tue, 12 Apr 94 19:12:46 +0200 Received: from sun3.lrz-muenchen.de by sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13532; Tue, 12 Apr 94 19:12:44 +0200 Received: by sun3.lrz-muenchen.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15904; Tue, 12 Apr 94 19:12:43 +0200 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 19:12:43 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Wolf Subject: Re: Yet another request To: Dan Schlitt Cc: David L Miller , Matt Simmons , Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII That's my opinion as well. Michael On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, Dan Schlitt wrote: > I would not want you to close the inbox (and thus delete messages marked > for deletion) when you move to another folder from the inbox. I'm not sure > what you do with the inconsistent appearance to the user, but the current > behaviour is correct.I often want to refer to a saved message in a > folder while I am going through my inbox and I may also want to go back > and refer to a messsage that I have marked for deletion. I want to mark > them for deletion when I read them but that doesn't mean that I am > completely through with them. A later message in a thread may prompt me to > go back and look again. > > /dan > > -- > > Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems > dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York > (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 13:05:53 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22097; Tue, 12 Apr 94 13:05:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03660; Tue, 12 Apr 94 12:44:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03654; Tue, 12 Apr 94 12:44:29 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA24000; Tue, 12 Apr 94 15:44:25 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA23159; Tue, 12 Apr 94 15:44:53 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 15:44:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: Viewing attachments, the second view To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sorry if I seem a pain, but I have one more suggestion for 3.90. I really like pine, now that I am spending so much time on it, but there are a few obvious things that I thought I'd put in here as I came across them. I was just reading a mailer that had 3 attachments. I hit "v" to view, then "1" to see #1, and then "v" again(!!!!) to view it (again???). Once there, I thought, OK, now I can just jump to the next attachment, but no such luck. It would be great if there were an option in the viewer mode that allowed you to "go to next attachment". That way you wouldn't have to exit viewer and then enter "v","2","v" again just to see the next one. Oh, and, while I'm thinking here (a once a day activity), it would be great if, instead of v2s (to save the second attachment) why wouldn't pine want to know "v" that I want to view, and "2" that I want to go to attachment 2. There is no reason to then have to enter the "s" or the "v". Pine should just pop me into looking at attachment 2, and then while in viewer mode, I should have the option to save. Seems it allows a slightly, though obviously, shorter route to getting into the viewer, and gives the option of saving at any time, and not just when you get into the viewer. (Of course, this idea is being typed while I am in typing mode, so I'm not in Viewer mode, should this already prove to be an option inside the viewer.)... **************************************************************************** ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 13:05:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22105; Tue, 12 Apr 94 13:05:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03696; Tue, 12 Apr 94 12:46:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from yacht.ee.fit.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03689; Tue, 12 Apr 94 12:46:13 -0700 Received: from bateau (bateau.ee.fit.edu) by ee.fit.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0/900117wah) id AA10160; Tue, 12 Apr 94 15:41:10 EDT Received: by bateau (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA02593; Tue, 12 Apr 94 15:46:20 EDT Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 15:46:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Subject: Decoding Messages To: Pine List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I occasionally get uuencoded files in my mail. How is it possible to save and uudecode a file without first extracting it? Using extract and specifying "|uudecode" as a filename doesn't work... [possible enhancement?] -= Chris =- [.Sig closed for repair] (ccurtis@ee.fit.edu) ... (cwcurtis@roo.fit.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 13:41:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23116; Tue, 12 Apr 94 13:41:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04444; Tue, 12 Apr 94 13:15:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04435; Tue, 12 Apr 94 13:14:56 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA24943; Tue, 12 Apr 94 16:14:52 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA23468; Tue, 12 Apr 94 16:15:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 16:15:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: Re: deleting multiple messages To: Klaus Zeuge Cc: dlm@cac.washington.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <9404101631.AA26155@datan.sk.uppsala.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > >"execute pine in shell scripts" is definitely on the long-list. One of the > >ways we determine the priority of items on the list is how often they are > >mentioned. If we posted the list, that feedback might not come in... Then I'll mention this. I use scripts a lot, and the ability to use pine in a script would be great. Hopefully it will not be too long in coming... **************************************************************************** ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 14:04:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23593; Tue, 12 Apr 94 14:04:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05042; Tue, 12 Apr 94 13:42:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ducserv.duc.auburn.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05036; Tue, 12 Apr 94 13:42:44 -0700 Received: from noc.noc.auburn.edu (noc.auburn.edu) by mail.auburn.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0 News-1.0) id AA14360; Tue, 12 Apr 94 15:33:35 CDT Received: by noc.noc.auburn.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA00838; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 15:43:06 +0600 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 15:43:06 +0600 From: owen@noc.auburn.edu Message-Id: <9404122043.AA00838@noc.noc.auburn.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: problem w/user-domain and smtp-server X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 1401 Hi. First post here for me, so excuse the potentially rookie question. I'm running pine on a Sun running Solaris 2.3. In my .pinerc, I've defined a user-domain that is different from the machine's hostname (actually, what I've defined as the user-domain is a CNAME for the hostname). If I'm reading the docs right, this should be used for the "right-hand part" of the From: and return-path addresses on outgoing mail. It isn't; all mail sent from pine goes out with the regular hostname (and yes, I really do have a legitimate reason for wanting to do this, if possible. It's a long story) in the from and return-path. So, I thought to myself, it's probably sendmail re-writing all that stuff, so I defined smtp-server in order to try to bypass the local sendmail. No luck; everything still has from and return-path pointing at the local hostname, rather than the stuff in the personal config file. I *do* have the user-domain defined to be the hostname in the system-wide file, but it's my understanding that the personal config file takes precedence, right? So, does anyone have any ideas how to get the outgoing mail to have from and return addresses different than the default on a per-user basis. Thanks. Larry Owen email: owen@noc.auburn.edu Campus Network Administrator phone: (205) 844-4110 Auburn University fax: (205) 844-9390 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 15:52:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26704; Tue, 12 Apr 94 15:52:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07290; Tue, 12 Apr 94 15:34:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from stein.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07284; Tue, 12 Apr 94 15:33:59 -0700 Received: by stein1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25311; Tue, 12 Apr 94 15:33:55 -0700 X-Sender: absweger@stein1.u.washington.edu Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 15:33:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew B. Sweger" Subject: Re: Decoding Messages To: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Cc: Pine List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, Christopher "AWOL" Curtis wrote: > I occasionally get uuencoded files in my mail. How is it possible to > save and uudecode a file without first extracting it? Using extract and > specifying "|uudecode" as a filename doesn't work... [possible enhancement?] I think the upcoming 'pipe' command feature will give you what you need (pine 3.90, I believe due sometime this spring, stay tuned). > > -= Chris =- > [.Sig closed for repair] > (ccurtis@ee.fit.edu) ... (cwcurtis@roo.fit.edu) > > -- / Andrew B. Sweger absweger@u.washington.edu // Computer Support Manager csg@fammed.washington.edu \\ Department of Family Medicine, HQ-30 (206) 543-2461 (Office) // UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON (206) 685-4337 (Voice Mail) / Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 685-0610 (FAX) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 17:56:47 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00474; Tue, 12 Apr 94 17:56:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10133; Tue, 12 Apr 94 17:40:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shamash.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10119; Tue, 12 Apr 94 17:40:04 -0700 Received: by shamash.cdc.com (4.1/SMI-4.0/CDC1.1) id AA21912; Tue, 12 Apr 94 19:39:58 CDT Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA09323; Wed, 13 Apr 94 08:14:38 +0800 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 08:14:37 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests To: David L Miller Cc: Bruce Mahfood , "Andrew B. Sweger" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Andrew Douglas Inman In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > Unfortunately the contributed code has to get past the same roadblocks as any > code we would write. We have already been offered a couple PGP patches for > Pine, but we cannot do anything with them until the legal dust settles :( While a PGP specific patch may suffer from legal problems the original request suggested a "generic" hook so that people could plug in their own privacy package. Do you see any problems with that approach? Ed Edward M. Greshko Control Data Taiwan Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 18:04:05 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00673; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:04:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10305; Tue, 12 Apr 94 17:50:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10299; Tue, 12 Apr 94 17:50:28 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15134; Tue, 12 Apr 94 17:50:11 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 17:50:10 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Pierre Roy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and News In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pierre, Pine can use NNTP, IMAP, or local file access to read news. --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, Pierre Roy wrote: > On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > Bruce, > > > > Pine 3.89 has very limited *read-only* news support. You can eneble this by > > setting the "news-collections" variable in your .pinerc file to point to your > > news server. You will also need a .newsrc file generated by some other > > newsreader... > Sorry to barge in but does Pine use the NNTP type of connection to read > the news??? > > Thanks. > Pierre > > > > > Thanks for the request! > > > > --DLM > > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > > > On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, Bruce Mahfood wrote: > > > > > For some reason, when I first subscribed to this list, and when I > > > compiled pine on my system and first started to play with it, I got the > > > understanding that pine did News stuff. Don't remember exactly what it > > > was that gave me that impression, but I do remember that people have > > > talked a bit about it. I can't seem to find any feature in pine 3.89 > > > which points toward an ability to read and post news. Please let me know > > > if this is a future enhancement, or if there's something I'm totally > > > overlooking... > > > > > > **************************************************************************** > > > ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! > > > ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! > > > ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! > > > ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! > > > **************************************************************************** > > > > > > > Pierre Roy Porretta > Ecole de technologie superieure (ETS) Tel:(514) 289-8883 > AEETS Fax:(514) 289-9480 > e-mail:Pierre@asso.ETSmtl.ca > Root@asso.ETSmtl.ca > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 18:11:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00919; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:11:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10443; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:00:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10437; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:00:26 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15236; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:00:18 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 18:00:17 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Bruce Mahfood Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: several messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Bruce, We have a message-counting mechanism for the incoming-folder-collection (which can include newsgroups) working in our experimental version, but we are not really happy with it's performance. This will be at most a special command for the Pine 3.90 release. We would like to have automatic counts, but we need to improve the speed considerably first. As you have noticed, Pine 3.89 does not have support for subscription, unsubscription, or posting news. These *will* be in the Pine 3.90 release. Thanks for the requests! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, Bruce Mahfood wrote: > Sorry about my earlier message, but, after doing some more searching, I > found I had not set my news-collections= option in my .pinerc. > > So now I am running with both news and mail. That's great. Only one > thing that could be a suggestion for pine 3.9. If the listing of > newsgroups could be made such that I could see a count of how many unread > entries there were, I would feel a lot less anxious. As it is, I > subscribe to so many newsgroups that, if I cannot see that info in front > of me, I will find myself reading every single group, not knowing whether > I needed to. I really don't have the time, with my job, to be bouncing > around newsgroups. Please consider this suggestion. As a matter of > fact, what would be cool is a menu option that allows flipping back and > forth between a simple listing of newsgroups and a numbered listing. > That option could be controlled by a .pinerc option which would turn it > on or off, and by an option that, if this were switched on, would allow > you to select which mode was to be the default every time you first get in... > > **************************************************************************** > ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! > ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! > ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! > ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! > **************************************************************************** > On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, Bruce Mahfood wrote: > How does one subscribe and unsubscribe in pine? I have looked at the > options available and have hit "?" to get the help screen. The options > and help seem very mail oriented and say nothing about news. Even when > you want to go to a group the option is called something like "go to > folder." Please let me know if there is an option in my .pinerc that I > am not activating or something... > > **************************************************************************** > ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! > ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! > ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! > ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! > **************************************************************************** > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 18:33:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01292; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:33:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10866; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:23:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10860; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:23:13 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15677; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:23:08 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 18:23:08 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Bruce Mahfood Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Viewing attachments, the second view In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Bruce, We do plan to revamp the attachment interface in a future release of Pine. It will probably not make it into 3.90, but it should come shortly thereafter. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, Bruce Mahfood wrote: > Sorry if I seem a pain, but I have one more suggestion for 3.90. I > really like pine, now that I am spending so much time on it, but there > are a few obvious things that I thought I'd put in here as I came across > them. > > I was just reading a mailer that had 3 attachments. I hit "v" to view, then > "1" to see #1, and then "v" again(!!!!) to view it (again???). Once > there, I thought, OK, now I can just jump to the next attachment, but no > such luck. > > It would be great if there were an option in the viewer mode that allowed > you to "go to next attachment". That way you wouldn't have to exit > viewer and then enter "v","2","v" again just to see the next one. > > Oh, and, while I'm thinking here (a once a day activity), it would be > great if, instead of v2s (to save the second attachment) why wouldn't > pine want to know "v" that I want to view, and "2" that I want to go to > attachment 2. There is no reason to then have to enter the "s" or the "v". > Pine should just pop me into looking at attachment 2, and then while in > viewer mode, I should have the option to save. Seems it allows a > slightly, though obviously, shorter route to getting into the viewer, and > gives the option of saving at any time, and not just when you get into > the viewer. (Of course, this idea is being typed while I am in typing > mode, so I'm not in Viewer mode, should this already prove to be an > option inside the viewer.)... > > **************************************************************************** > ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! > ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! > ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! > ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! > **************************************************************************** > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 18:38:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01424; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:38:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10924; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:28:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10918; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:28:55 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15731; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:28:51 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 18:28:51 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller Reply-To: Pine Mission Control {bug reports} To: owen@noc.auburn.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: problem w/user-domain and smtp-server In-Reply-To: <9404122043.AA00838@noc.noc.auburn.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Larry, The first thing to do is check your .pine-debug1 file to see what is getting picked up from each config file. If that doesn't point out anything, send us a copy and we'll take a look... Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 12 Apr 1994 owen@noc.auburn.edu wrote: > Hi. First post here for me, so excuse the potentially rookie question. > > I'm running pine on a Sun running Solaris 2.3. In my .pinerc, I've > defined a user-domain that is different from the machine's hostname > (actually, what I've defined as the user-domain is a CNAME for the > hostname). If I'm reading the docs right, this should be used for > the "right-hand part" of the From: and return-path addresses on > outgoing mail. It isn't; all mail sent from pine goes out with > the regular hostname (and yes, I really do have a legitimate reason > for wanting to do this, if possible. It's a long story) in the > from and return-path. > > So, I thought to myself, it's probably sendmail re-writing all that > stuff, so I defined smtp-server in order to try to bypass the local > sendmail. No luck; everything still has from and return-path pointing > at the local hostname, rather than the stuff in the personal config > file. I *do* have the user-domain defined to be the hostname in the > system-wide file, but it's my understanding that the personal config > file takes precedence, right? > > So, does anyone have any ideas how to get the outgoing mail to have > from and return addresses different than the default on a per-user > basis. Thanks. > > Larry Owen email: owen@noc.auburn.edu > Campus Network Administrator phone: (205) 844-4110 > Auburn University fax: (205) 844-9390 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 18:48:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01577; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:48:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10742; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:24:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10736; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:24:31 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15712; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:24:28 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 18:24:28 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Cc: Pine List Subject: Re: Decoding Messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Chris, The next release of Pine will include the Pipe command which will allow you to type "|uudecode"... Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, Christopher "AWOL" Curtis wrote: > I occasionally get uuencoded files in my mail. How is it possible to > save and uudecode a file without first extracting it? Using extract and > specifying "|uudecode" as a filename doesn't work... [possible enhancement?] > > -= Chris =- > [.Sig closed for repair] > (ccurtis@ee.fit.edu) ... (cwcurtis@roo.fit.edu) > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 18:50:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01605; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:50:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10996; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:41:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from usagi.calvin.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10990; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:41:32 -0700 Received: by usagi.Calvin.EDU (5.65c/1.35) id AA07361; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 21:41:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 21:41:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Omi Chandiramani Subject: Flag to start pine only if new mail exists? (fwd) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I posted this a few days ago but got no response. Did this circulate to the list or did I screw up? Omi Chandiramani ochand70@calvin.edu ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 22:19:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Omi Chandiramani To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Flag to start pine only if new mail exists? How about it? This would be similar to the -z flag in elm. Right now I have a shell script which does the same but it would be much cooler to just have to type.. pine -x or something similar. Anybody else support this idea? Omi Chandiramani ochand70@calvin.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 20:09:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02569; Tue, 12 Apr 94 20:09:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12072; Tue, 12 Apr 94 19:53:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from hnlv4.VERIFONE.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12066; Tue, 12 Apr 94 19:53:27 -0700 Received: from verifone.com by verifone.com (PMDF V4.2-11 #2386) id <01HB3F6RME8694EKMA@verifone.com>; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 16:53:49 -1000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 16:53:49 -1000 From: "James H. Thompson - HNL" Subject: PICO Question - how to go to end/top of file To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <01HB3F6RME8894EKMA@verifone.com> Organization: VeriFone X-Ps-Qualifiers: /FONT=Courier-Bold/LINES=66/LEFT_MARGIN=36/CALCULATE/TOP_MARGIN=36/BOTTOM_MARGIN=36 X-Vms-To: IN%"pine-info@cac.washington.edu" X-Vms-Cc: JIMMY_T Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT In Pico, how do you jump to the end or the top of a file? Being able to jump to a line number would be nice to. Thanks. Jim +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | James H. Thompson | jimmy_t@verifone.com (Internet) | | VeriFone Inc. | uunet!verifone!jimmy_t (UUCP) | | 100 Kahelu Avenue | 808-623-2911 (Phone) | | Mililani, HI 96789 | 808-625-3201 (FAX) | +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 23:50:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05898; Tue, 12 Apr 94 23:50:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15135; Tue, 12 Apr 94 23:37:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from loke.btj.se by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15120; Tue, 12 Apr 94 23:36:59 -0700 Received: by loke.btj.se id AA09749 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 13 Apr 1994 08:36:56 +0200 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 08:36:55 +0200 (DFT) From: Goran Svensson Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Charset: ISO_8859-1 X-Char-Esc: 0 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > Unfortunately the contributed code has to get past the same roadblocks as any > > code we would write. We have already been offered a couple PGP patches for > > Pine, but we cannot do anything with them until the legal dust settles :( PGP is using RSA protected by a US patent, therefore possibly breaking US patent laws. Also, PGP can not be exported outside US. *BUT*, PGP is legally sold under the name ViaCrypt, under legal license terms. See alt.security.pgp . Therefore, calling PGP from inside pine can not in my opinion break any law. Inside US, it is a permitted when bought as ViaCrypt, and outside US there is not any law against it. > > While a PGP specific patch may suffer from legal problems the original > request suggested a "generic" hook so that people could plug in their own > privacy package. Do you see any problems with that approach? > > Ed > > Edward M. Greshko Control Data Taiwan > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > ******************************************************************************* * Goran Svensson * Believe it or not, this is my opinion. * * BTJ System AB, Lund, Sweden * I reserve the right to change it, * * Email: goran@btj.se * doubt it or deny it at any time. * * Phone: +46 46 18 00 00 ****************************************** * Fax: +46 46 18 03 33 * Snail: Box 4066, S-227 21 Lund, Sweden * ******************************************************************************* * Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter * * if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own * * common sense." * * --Buddha * ******************************************************************************* -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQBVAgUBLauTAdi2zQF0LyZBAQH6OAIAlSD23ph/cPTeJurLd41O04IFWEBcchvD qP68AfnsnMQw39W2QE0+OnfH19ERwxeu0j2X8zi8miz+BueQSy5Xxg== =YqZx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 08:21:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17167; Wed, 13 Apr 94 08:21:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22486; Wed, 13 Apr 94 07:57:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22480; Wed, 13 Apr 94 07:57:23 -0700 Received: by watsun.cc.columbia.edu id AA19582 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 13 Apr 1994 10:57:21 -0400 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 94 10:57:20 EDT From: Joe Brennan To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug: save to a file named * Message-Id: I see the save command (when viewing a message) lets me save to a file named *. One of our users did this by accident, and decided to fix it afterwards by doing rm mail/*, and even though we have rm aliased to rm -i, he told it OK to do it. * is an unlikely filename to want; some other special characters would also be "fun" for novices to handle in filenames. Do you all feel like imposing a character test for file creation? Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York brennan@columbia.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 08:33:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17689; Wed, 13 Apr 94 08:33:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22220; Wed, 13 Apr 94 08:01:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22214; Wed, 13 Apr 94 08:01:36 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03677; Wed, 13 Apr 94 08:01:27 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 08:01:26 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "James H. Thompson - HNL" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PICO Question - how to go to end/top of file In-Reply-To: <01HB3F6RME8894EKMA@verifone.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Jim, The version of Pico dto be distributed with the next release of Pine will have commands to jump to top and bottom. Line number jumps are not yet implemented. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, James H. Thompson - HNL wrote: > In Pico, how do you jump to the end or the top of a file? > Being able to jump to a line number would be nice to. > > Thanks. > > Jim > +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ > | James H. Thompson | jimmy_t@verifone.com (Internet) | > | VeriFone Inc. | uunet!verifone!jimmy_t (UUCP) | > | 100 Kahelu Avenue | 808-623-2911 (Phone) | > | Mililani, HI 96789 | 808-625-3201 (FAX) | > +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 09:04:11 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19038; Wed, 13 Apr 94 09:04:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23477; Wed, 13 Apr 94 08:44:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ciao.trail.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23471; Wed, 13 Apr 94 08:44:34 -0700 Received: by CIAO (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27181; Wed, 13 Apr 94 08:46:43 PDT Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 08:46:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Showers Subject: attachments To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I do not understand how attachments work in Pine. Coould someone help me answer this question from one of our end-users? > I sent an e-mail to the eastern US and a long ATTACHMENT came out > looking like code. Is it correct to presume that the attachment was > compressed? Michael Showers | 2079-Columbia Ave. Computer Systems Manager | Trail, British Columbia School District No. 11 (Trail) | CANADA V1R-1K7 mshowers@CIAO.trail.bc.ca | voice: (604) 368-2234 -- A.K.A. The Technical Connection for the CIAO! Free-Net -- /\ /\ /\ / \^^^/\/ /^^^^\ ^^^^^^ It's great in the Kootenays. ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 09:23:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19905; Wed, 13 Apr 94 09:23:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23769; Wed, 13 Apr 94 09:01:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from isumataq.eskimo.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23763; Wed, 13 Apr 94 09:01:48 -0700 Received: by isumataq.eskimo.com (5.65c/1.35) id AA29384; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 09:01:23 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 09:01:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Putnam Barber Subject: Re: $ and Bug: save to a file named * To: Joe Brennan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I second Joe Brennan's thought. My particular version was less dramatic. I created a file with a $ in its name, and found that unix has ideas about such files that DOS never dreamed. After several discussions with others who were as baffled as I, a stranger who used unix all the time gave me the clues I needed to work with and then delete the file. It would have been nice to have been saved from myself in this instance. Even more so if I'd strayed down the path Brennan's user followed! Putnam Barber Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 10:28:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22374; Wed, 13 Apr 94 10:28:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24408; Wed, 13 Apr 94 10:00:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from carson-oms1.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24402; Wed, 13 Apr 94 10:00:43 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by carson-oms1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29031; Wed, 13 Apr 94 10:00:42 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 10:00:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Regarding PGP support Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There have been several messages on this topic recently; here's my $.02... o Support for private/authenticated mail is clearly important. o We do not expect to bundle encryption code in the Pine distribution. o We do not expect to purchase technology from ViaCrypt. o Additional alternatives will be coming from MIT "real soon now". o The suggestion that we provide hooks so that an *external* package can enhance/de-enhance a message seems exactly right to me. o In 3.90 "pipe to cmd" and "mailcap" support may provide part of the answer (for processing incoming messages). o Feasibility of the "external processing" approach has yet to be verified. o Nothing has been done yet about hooks for outgoing msgs. It's not likely that this will be done in time for 3.90, unless it turns out to be dead easy. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 11:55:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25138; Wed, 13 Apr 94 11:55:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25659; Wed, 13 Apr 94 11:24:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from papaya.wustl.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25652; Wed, 13 Apr 94 11:24:50 -0700 Received: by papaya.wustl.edu (NX5.67c/NeXT-3.0-SLT/GHC) id AA21310; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:25:07 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:24:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Hussain Chinoy Reply-To: Hussain Chinoy Subject: attached-to-ansi cmd in unix? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Hi there! This is sort of a unix question. I've known for a long time that Pine can print to a printer using "attached to ansi," but what is the command to do that for a file from the unix prompt? ____________________________________________________________________________ G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 314.935.4353 Washington University in St. Louis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 12:30:29 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26451; Wed, 13 Apr 94 12:30:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26797; Wed, 13 Apr 94 11:44:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from Krypton.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26791; Wed, 13 Apr 94 11:44:12 -0700 Received: from localhost (hayden@localhost) by krypton.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id NAA14584; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:49:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:49:23 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Re: Regarding PGP support To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please note, it is very easy to PGP-sign a pine mailing. A) create a script outside of pine. I call mine 'picopgp'. ====picopgp==== #!/bin/sh pico -z -t $1 pgp -sat $1 mv $1.asc $1 ====end======== B) Set your alternate editor to this script (if in your path, just picopgp) C) When you want to pgp-sign your message, invoke your alternate editor and when you exit it, you will be asked for your password and then will have a signed message. ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> Political Correctness is \/ Finger for PGP 2.3a Public Key <=> P.C. for "Thought Police" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 12:45:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27213; Wed, 13 Apr 94 12:45:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26799; Wed, 13 Apr 94 12:26:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ziggy.hslib.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26793; Wed, 13 Apr 94 12:26:26 -0700 Received: by ziggy.hslib.washington.edu (5.65/UW-NDC Revision: 2.29 ) id AA20241; Wed, 13 Apr 94 12:28:09 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 12:28:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Cindy Jenkins Subject: Setting a global From address To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I've been hunting in the pinerc file and can't locate how to set this up. Is it possible to set up a From address in the pinerc of a user's account, so that when a message is sent from that account, the From line has a generic address (like pine-help@cac) rather than the person's address? If so, where do i set this up? **************************************************** Cindy Jenkins Health Sciences Library Systems Administrator Information Center office: 543-5531 Room T315 pager: 997-4934 mail stop SB-55 Internet: cj@hslib.washington.edu **************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 13:04:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28262; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:04:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26647; Wed, 13 Apr 94 12:16:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26641; Wed, 13 Apr 94 12:16:23 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07337; Wed, 13 Apr 94 12:16:12 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 12:16:12 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Hussain Chinoy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi cmd in unix? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hussain, The Pine source distribution includes a small utility program called ansiprt that will do this in the contrib/utils directory. Documentstion for the program is included in the source file. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, Hussain Chinoy wrote: > Hi there! > > This is sort of a unix question. I've known for a long time that > Pine can print to a printer using "attached to ansi," but what is the > command to do that for a file from the unix prompt? > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab > hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 > 314.935.4353 > Washington University in St. Louis > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 13:34:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29415; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:34:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28177; Wed, 13 Apr 94 12:58:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28171; Wed, 13 Apr 94 12:58:49 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA07350; Wed, 13 Apr 94 15:58:42 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA02243; Wed, 13 Apr 94 15:59:09 -0400 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 15:59:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: pine mail vs. news To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it possible to jump between mail and news without having to close one or the other out? I would like to freely be reading or write my mail and just bounce over to news to see some information. That is, actually, the only thing about seperate packages that I didn't think about before starting to use pine. You can go to news to cut something out with your mouse and go back to your mailer and paste it in. May not seem like much, but, when you're in a mailer and want to refer to an article you can't get to it because you are tying up the package writing your mailer. Hope I'm making sense here. I guess what I mean is the ability to have either 1) multiple processes that you can switch back and forth between, or 2) temp files that keep the info from your mailer (such as where you were exactly and a copy of the mailer you were composing, with the cursor position) while you jump over to read news. You might even use this as a way to be able to open a saved or unsaved mailer for reference while writing a mailer that is to be sent. This would definitely increase functionality. Please let me know if I'm going too far, but I'm interested to see if such a situation could be done without throwing the pine people into a major loop... **************************************************************************** ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 13:41:19 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29670; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:41:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28717; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:20:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sun.lclark.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28711; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:19:59 -0700 Received: from sun (sun.lclark.edu) by lclark.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19374; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:19:58 PDT Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:19:57 -0700 (PDT) From: John Miller Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi cmd in unix? To: David L Miller Cc: Hussain Chinoy , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > The Pine source distribution includes a small utility program called > ansiprt that will do this in the contrib/utils directory. Documentstion > for the program is included in the source file. Well, the documentation doesn't really say how to use the command, or that the command line option, if present, tells whether to output a ctrl-d after detecting the EOF on input.. or under what situations you might want to do that. I simplified the program to the following, "ansiprint": % more ansiprint.c #include main (argc,argv) char *argv[]; int argc; { char c; putchar ('\033'); putchar ('['); putchar ('5'); putchar ('i'); while ((c=getchar())!=EOF) putchar(c); putchar ('\f'); putchar ('\033'); putchar ('['); putchar ('4'); putchar ('i'); } I found that I had to add the \f (formfeed) at the end in order to force Mac VersaTerm to print the unix file to attached imagewriter NOW.. otherwise it just wanted to buffer it up and print when it had what it considered to be a pagefull. I found that ansiprt and pine's print had different results, so I looked into pine's print routine to determine that the above did the trick. To use ansiprint: % ansiprint < myfile or % cmd1 | cmd2 | ansiprint ansiprint does not take a file name on the command line. You must use indirection or put at the end of a pipeline. Feel free to use. No liabilities here. :^) John Miller Lewis & Clark College From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 13:46:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29817; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:46:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28631; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:14:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from suma2.rdg.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28625; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:14:03 -0700 Received: from reading.ac.uk by mail2.reading.ac.uk with SMTP - Local (PP) id <18263-0@mail2.reading.ac.uk>; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 21:13:58 +0100 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 21:14:02 BST From: John Stumbles Subject: re: attachments To: Pine User Group Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Wed, 13 Apr 1994 08:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Michael Showers wrote: > I do not understand how attachments work in Pine. Could someone help me > answer this question from one of our end-users? Me neither - I have 2 requests: 1: that Pine tell the user what the name of the encoding method for attachments is, so that the user can tell the would-be recipient (not using pine) how it is encoded. I'm not a completely dumb user (no arguments please ;-) and I don't know off the top of my head, and when someone who knows more than I do asks, I feel a bit foolish saying I don't know! BTW what IS the encoding method...? 2: when a message is received with an attachment, pine asks if you want to save/view part 1 or 2 ... now I've been here before and know that part 1 is the plain text mail message you get to read anyway as soon as you go into the message, and there's already a command to save or export it, so what is the point of this - the part you want to save or view is always part 2 (or > 2 if there is >1 attachment), so why not have part 1 == 1st attachment ... etc ? PS thanks for a nice mailer, and please don't keep us hanging on for that threaded/winsock version folks! B-) John Stumbles j.d.stumbles@reading.ac.uk University of Reading 0734 318435 Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF, UK +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 14:11:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00743; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:11:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29432; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:52:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post2.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29426; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:52:12 -0700 Received: from ecstest.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HB4N7VDHW08ZGBPX@asu.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:53:26 MST Received: from ECSTEST.ASU.EDU ([129.219.3.7]) by ecstest.asu.edu with SMTP id <113128>; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:51:56 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:51:18 -0700 From: Shahjehan Khatri Subject: Multiple address books To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Priority: Normal Sorry if this is the 17th time you see this question, but I'm dying to know if the "Spring" version of Pine will support multiple address books (e.g., a system one and a personal one). Much obliged. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 14:32:19 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01366; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:32:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29698; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:06:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29692; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:06:09 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08453; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:05:57 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:05:56 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: John Stumbles Cc: Pine User Group Subject: re: attachments In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII John, The encoding method used for all attachments in Pine is called BASE64, but most of the decoding software available for BASE64 can already figure that out from the MIME headers... Pine and some other mailers use the _convention_ that the first part of a multipart message is the text body, There is nothing in the MIME specification that requires that convention, and there are mailers available that do not use it. There has been some discussion in the comp.mail.mime newsgroup about ways to distinguish between attachments and message body parts in MIME, but I don't think anything has been decided. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, John Stumbles wrote: > On Wed, 13 Apr 1994 08:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Michael Showers wrote: > > > I do not understand how attachments work in Pine. Could someone help me > > answer this question from one of our end-users? > > Me neither - I have 2 requests: > > 1: that Pine tell the user what the name of the encoding method for > attachments is, so that the user can tell the would-be recipient (not using > pine) how it is encoded. I'm not a completely dumb user (no arguments please > ;-) and I don't know off the top of my head, and when someone who knows more > than I do asks, I feel a bit foolish saying I don't know! > > BTW what IS the encoding method...? > > > 2: when a message is received with an attachment, pine asks if you want to > save/view part 1 or 2 ... now I've been here before and know that part 1 is the > plain text mail message you get to read anyway as soon as you go into the > message, and there's already a command to save or export it, so what is the > point of this - the part you want to save or view is always part 2 (or > 2 if > there is >1 attachment), so why not have part 1 == 1st attachment ... etc ? > > > PS thanks for a nice mailer, and please don't keep us hanging on for that > threaded/winsock version folks! B-) > > > John Stumbles j.d.stumbles@reading.ac.uk > University of Reading 0734 318435 > Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF, UK > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 14:33:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01459; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:33:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28750; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:10:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28744; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:10:44 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08517; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:10:43 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:10:42 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Cindy Jenkins Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Setting a global From address In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cindy, The next release of Pine will support both the Reply-To: header and a pre-settable From: header. We expect to have it available later this spring. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, Cindy Jenkins wrote: > Hi, I've been hunting in the pinerc file and can't locate how to set this > up. Is it possible to set up a From address in the pinerc of a user's > account, so that when a message is sent from that account, the From line > has a generic address (like pine-help@cac) rather than the person's > address? If so, where do i set this up? > > **************************************************** > Cindy Jenkins Health Sciences Library > Systems Administrator Information Center > office: 543-5531 Room T315 > pager: 997-4934 mail stop SB-55 > Internet: cj@hslib.washington.edu > **************************************************** > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 14:36:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01646; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:36:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28839; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:15:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28833; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:15:44 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08579; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:15:39 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:15:38 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Shahjehan Khatri Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Multiple address books In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Shahjehan, Sorry to disappoint you, but it does not look like multiple addressbook support will make the spring release. It does remain high on our priority list for a future release though. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, Shahjehan Khatri wrote: > Sorry if this is the 17th time you see this question, but I'm dying to know > if the "Spring" version of Pine will support multiple address books (e.g., a > system one and a personal one). > > Much obliged. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 14:43:28 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02028; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:43:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28880; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:19:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pear.wustl.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28874; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:19:17 -0700 Received: by pear.wustl.edu (NX5.67c/NeXT-3.0-SLT/GHC) id AA01007; Wed, 13 Apr 94 16:19:27 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 16:19:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Hussain Chinoy Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi cmd in unix? To: John Miller Cc: David L Miller , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII John, Works like a charm! Thanks tons! hussain ________________________________ G. Hussain Chinoy hussain@artsci.wustl.edu On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, John Miller wrote: > On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > The Pine source distribution includes a small utility program called > > ansiprt that will do this in the contrib/utils directory. Documentstion > > for the program is included in the source file. > > Well, the documentation doesn't really say how to use the command, or > that the command line option, if present, tells whether to output a ctrl-d > after detecting the EOF on input.. or under what situations you might > want to do that. I simplified the program to the following, "ansiprint": > > % more ansiprint.c > > #include > > main (argc,argv) > char *argv[]; > int argc; > > { > char c; > > putchar ('\033'); > putchar ('['); > putchar ('5'); > putchar ('i'); > > while ((c=getchar())!=EOF) putchar(c); > putchar ('\f'); > > putchar ('\033'); > putchar ('['); > putchar ('4'); > putchar ('i'); > } > > I found that I had to add the \f (formfeed) at the end in order to force Mac > VersaTerm to print the unix file to attached imagewriter NOW.. otherwise > it just wanted to buffer it up and print when it had what it considered to be > a pagefull. I found that ansiprt and pine's print had different results, so > I looked into pine's print routine to determine that the above did the trick. > > To use ansiprint: > > % ansiprint < myfile > or > % cmd1 | cmd2 | ansiprint > > ansiprint does not take a file name on the command line. You must use > indirection or put at the end of a pipeline. > > Feel free to use. No liabilities here. :^) > > John Miller > Lewis & Clark College > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 14:56:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02381; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:56:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29212; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:36:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from carson-oms1.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29206; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:36:25 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by carson-oms1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14995; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:36:21 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:36:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: John Miller Cc: David L Miller , Hussain Chinoy , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi cmd in unix? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, John Miller wrote: > On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > The Pine source distribution includes a small utility program called > > ansiprt that will do this in the contrib/utils directory. Documentstion > > for the program is included in the source file. > > Well, the documentation doesn't really say how to use the command, or ... Thanks John... The problem is that David inadvertently got a couple of extra words in his sentence. It should have read: "Documentation for the program *is* the source file." :) (This is a Unix app, after all.) -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 15:07:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02911; Wed, 13 Apr 94 15:07:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29385; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:45:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from carson-oms2.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29379; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:45:07 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by carson-oms2.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11010; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:44:59 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:44:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: John Stumbles Cc: Pine User Group Subject: re: attachments In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, John Stumbles wrote: > On Wed, 13 Apr 1994 08:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Michael Showers wrote: > > > I do not understand how attachments work in Pine. Could someone help me > > answer this question from one of our end-users? > > Me neither - I have 2 requests: > > 1: that Pine tell the user what the name of the encoding method for > attachments is, so that the user can tell the would-be recipient (not using > pine) how it is encoded. I'm not a completely dumb user (no arguments please > ;-) and I don't know off the top of my head, and when someone who knows more > than I do asks, I feel a bit foolish saying I don't know! > > BTW what IS the encoding method...? John et al, It is both necessary and sufficient to have a "MIME capable" mailer or external software to read Pine attachments. So it should be enough to say to your correspondents "You need MIME capability". For the terminally curious, Pine uses MIME's "Base64" Content-Transfer- Encoding for all attachments. > 2: when a message is received with an attachment, pine asks if you want to > save/view part 1 or 2 ... now I've been here before and know that part 1 is the > plain text mail message you get to read anyway as soon as you go into the > message, and there's already a command to save or export it, so what is the > point of this - the part you want to save or view is always part 2 (or > 2 if > there is >1 attachment), so why not have part 1 == 1st attachment ... etc ? The attachment interface *is* due for an overhaul, but being removing the ability to specify the first MIME body part is not such a good idea, for two reasons: 1. Using the attachment viewer's save option is currently the only way to save a message without any headers. 2. Other mailers may generate "first" body parts that are not ascii text. In this case, it is important to be able to explicitly specify #1. Still, we all agree that the current attachment interface is a bit clunky. > PS thanks for a nice mailer, and please don't keep us hanging on for that > threaded/winsock version folks! B-) Yes, sir! Right away! -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 16:07:37 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05145; Wed, 13 Apr 94 16:07:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01841; Wed, 13 Apr 94 15:50:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sun.lclark.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01835; Wed, 13 Apr 94 15:50:41 -0700 Received: from sun (sun.lclark.edu) by lclark.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02159; Wed, 13 Apr 94 15:50:36 PDT Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 15:50:36 -0700 (PDT) From: John Miller Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi cmd in unix? To: Terry Gray Cc: David L Miller , Hussain Chinoy , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, Terry Gray wrote: > Thanks John... The problem is that David inadvertently got a couple of > extra words in his sentence. It should have read: "Documentation for > the program *is* the source file." :) > > (This is a Unix app, after all.) Ha Ha! I followed that convention in my source code as well... Whoever picks that program up would do well to incorporate my usage notes as comments. The program really should take a filename as an argument as well. See any C textbook for the solution. :^) John From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 18:47:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08876; Wed, 13 Apr 94 18:47:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04399; Wed, 13 Apr 94 18:30:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from carson-oms1.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04393; Wed, 13 Apr 94 18:30:31 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by carson-oms1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26038; Wed, 13 Apr 94 18:30:28 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 18:30:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Robert A. Hayden" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Regarding PGP support In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks Robert. That's good news. -teg On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote: > Please note, it is very easy to PGP-sign a pine mailing. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 18:49:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08962; Wed, 13 Apr 94 18:49:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04466; Wed, 13 Apr 94 18:35:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from azure.engin.umich.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04460; Wed, 13 Apr 94 18:35:42 -0700 Received: (messina@localhost) by azure.engin.umich.edu (8.6.8/8.6.4) id VAA05332; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 21:35:38 -0400 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 21:27:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Messina Subject: Re: pine mail vs. news To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Is it possible to jump between mail and news without having to close one > or the other out? I would like to freely be reading or write my mail and > just bounce over to news to see some information. You can run two copies of pine. If your shell supports job control (assuming you're running UNIX Pine), and you've set feature-list= enable-suspend, then you can switch between the two running copies. The second copy opens in Read Only mode (so you can't delete stuff in your remote inbox). Also, don't forget about the background job, or the IMAP connection will be broken. This is admittedly pretty kludgy, but it would work. -- Matt Messina Vote YES on rec.arts.ascii matt.messina@umich.edu CFV: coming soon to a n.a.newgroups near you From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 18:53:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09044; Wed, 13 Apr 94 18:53:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03219; Wed, 13 Apr 94 18:40:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from Krypton.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03213; Wed, 13 Apr 94 18:40:56 -0700 Received: from localhost (hayden@localhost) by krypton.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id UAA02899; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 20:46:09 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 20:46:08 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Re: Regarding PGP support To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, Terry Gray wrote: > Thanks Robert. That's good news. If you are looking for something to do with it (pine people), you could probably integrate something like that into pine itself. Have a .pinerc flag 'pgp-enable' and some perhaps a 'do you want to PGPSign this message' prompt. Or perhaps control-E to exit construction of a message and sign it. I'd think it would be very easy to do, won't require any integration of PGP itself, and would be pretty intutive, I'd think. ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> Political Correctness is \/ Finger for PGP 2.3a Public Key <=> P.C. for "Thought Police" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 20:51:59 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10913; Wed, 13 Apr 94 20:51:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05662; Wed, 13 Apr 94 20:39:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU:thomas@tsongsig.la.asu.edu> Received: from asuvm.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05656; Wed, 13 Apr 94 20:39:01 -0700 Received: from tsongsig.la.asu.edu by ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 13 Apr 94 20:37:52 MST Received: by tsongsig.la.asu.edu (931110.SGI/931108.SGI.AUTO.ANONFTP) for @asuvm.inre.asu.edu:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA18141; Wed, 13 Apr 94 22:16:14 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 22:16:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Mueller Subject: folder-collections=Mail/[] To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, while configuring pine one problem occured with the setting folder-collections=Mail/[] in my pinerc. During startup pine gives the message "Creating subdirectory "/usr/people/thomas/mail" where pine will store its mail folders." and actually creates this directory, although it will never use it (since there is this folder-collections entry, which directs all mail into ~./Mail). Is there a problem with my configuration or is it just a bug in pine? Thanks in advance, Thomas Mueller -- Wissen ist Macht. (thomas@tsongsig.la.asu.edu) Wir wissen nichts. Macht nichts. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 21:39:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11589; Wed, 13 Apr 94 21:39:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04759; Wed, 13 Apr 94 21:28:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from azure.engin.umich.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04753; Wed, 13 Apr 94 21:28:10 -0700 Received: (messina@localhost) by azure.engin.umich.edu (8.6.8/8.6.4) id AAA04503; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 00:28:08 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 00:26:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Messina Subject: Re: folder-collections=Mail/[] To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > while configuring pine one problem occured with the setting > folder-collections=Mail/[] in my pinerc. During startup pine gives the > message [ Why does it insist on creating ~/mail is the question ] You also have to set mail-directory=Mail -- Matt Messina Vote YES on rec.arts.ascii matt.messina@umich.edu CFV: coming soon to a n.a.newgroups near you From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 05:14:29 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18172; Thu, 14 Apr 94 05:14:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09660; Thu, 14 Apr 94 04:43:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail2.rdg.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09653; Thu, 14 Apr 94 04:43:42 -0700 Received: from reading.ac.uk by mail2.reading.ac.uk with SMTP - Local (PP) id <12343-0@mail2.reading.ac.uk>; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 12:43:20 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 12:43:10 BST From: John Stumbles Subject: re: attachments To: David L Miller , Terry Gray Cc: Pine User Group Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, I (John Stumbles) wrote: > > ...when a message is received with an attachment, pine asks if you want to save/view part 1 or 2 ... part 1 is the plain text mail message you get to read anyway as soon as you go into the message... so what is the point of this - the part you want to save or view is always part 2 ...so why not have part 1 == 1st attachment ... etc ? to which David L Miller replied: > Pine and some other mailers use the _convention_ that the first part of a > multipart message is the text body... And Terry Gray also replied: > ... removing > the ability to specify the first MIME body part is not such a good idea, > for two reasons: > > 1. Using the attachment viewer's save option is currently the only way to > save a message without any headers. > > 2. Other mailers may generate "first" body parts that are not ascii text. > In this case, it is important to be able to explicitly specify #1. Thanks David and Terry, When I first came across a message with an attachment I was confused to find that asking to view attachment number 1 put me back into viewing the plain message. I was in naive user mode, and I am guessing that other naive users would find it similarly confusing (even with the attachment view/save interface cleaned up). I do think attachment number 1 should be the first actual attachment - if (as Terry suggests) it is necessary or desirable to be able to invoke the attachment view/save mechanism for the body, couldn't this be referred to as part 0 ?? That way the smart users would be able to do what they want, and the naive users would get what they expect when they do what comes naturally - which is the pine philosophy, n'est ce pas? BTW Terry, I don't understand your second point - I thought email message bodies were exclusively ascii text (give or take some differences in national character sets) - isn't this what attachments are all about? Surely if anyone produces a mailer that sends out first body parts that are not ascii, 99.99% of other mailers won't be able to read it without fiddling about, and it isn't going to be very popular? John Stumbles j.d.stumbles@reading.ac.uk University of Reading 0734 318435 Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF, UK +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 06:11:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19105; Thu, 14 Apr 94 06:11:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08685; Thu, 14 Apr 94 05:49:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [202.12.88.9] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08679; Thu, 14 Apr 94 05:48:47 -0700 Return-Path: Received: by budge (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0prQQ9-00012UC; Thu, 14 Apr 94 22:21 EST Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 22:21:23 +0000 From: root Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests To: David L Miller Cc: Bruce Mahfood , "Andrew B. Sweger" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Andrew Douglas Inman In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > Bruce, > > Unfortunately the contributed code has to get past the same roadblocks as any > code we would write. We have already been offered a couple PGP patches for > Pine, but we cannot do anything with them until the legal dust settles :( > > Thanks for the suggestion! > > --DLM Does that really apply if the contributed code is just a patch which allows an external program called 'pgp' to be called? Or a program which is called 'tom', maybe, which just might happen to be 'pgp'? How could there be any legal problem with that? There is just such a patch floating around. And there seems to be considerable demand. Charlie Brady * (W) charlieb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au * (H) charlieb@budge.apana.org.au "Make it as simple as possible - | Tel: (02) 413 6838 ____Telectronics__| /\__ but no simpler" Einstein, A | Fax: (02) 413 6868 Pacing Systems \/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 06:41:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19452; Thu, 14 Apr 94 06:41:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08986; Thu, 14 Apr 94 06:21:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [202.12.88.9] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08979; Thu, 14 Apr 94 06:21:10 -0700 Return-Path: Received: by budge (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0prQ3l-00012UC; Thu, 14 Apr 94 21:58 EST Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 21:58:15 +0000 From: Subject: Including other messages... To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine Team, I'd just like to make sure that one of the things on your to-do list is to allow other messages to be included (in the manner of a reply) when composing or replying. This is about the only thing that I regularly have to go outside of Pine to do. Charlie Brady * (W) charlieb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au * (H) charlieb@budge.apana.org.au "Make it as simple as possible - | Tel: (02) 413 6838 ____Telectronics__| /\__ but no simpler" Einstein, A | Fax: (02) 413 6868 Pacing Systems \/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 07:11:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19823; Thu, 14 Apr 94 07:11:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10889; Thu, 14 Apr 94 06:54:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from wave.aoml.erl.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10883; Thu, 14 Apr 94 06:54:24 -0700 Received: from localhost (chen@localhost) by aoml.erl.gov (8.6.5/8.6.4) id JAA01332; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 09:53:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 09:53:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Ying-Yuang Chen Subject: subscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII --YY From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 07:13:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19856; Thu, 14 Apr 94 07:13:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AB10924; Thu, 14 Apr 94 06:59:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from suma2.rdg.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10918; Thu, 14 Apr 94 06:59:06 -0700 Received: from reading.ac.uk by mail2.reading.ac.uk with SMTP - Local (PP) id <17892-0@mail2.reading.ac.uk>; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 14:58:52 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 14:58:38 BST From: John Stumbles Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests To: root Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Thu, 14 Apr 1994 22:21:23 +0000 root wrote: > There is just such a patch floating around. And there seems to be > considerable demand. > > Charlie Brady * (W) charlieb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au * (H) charlieb@budge.apana.org.au Is it applicable to the DOS pine or only the Unix version? I know the DOS version is usually distributed as an executable, but I understand the source is available...? John Stumbles j.d.stumbles@reading.ac.uk University of Reading 0734 318435 Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF, UK +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 08:10:58 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21078; Thu, 14 Apr 94 08:10:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11654; Thu, 14 Apr 94 07:56:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rye.city.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11648; Thu, 14 Apr 94 07:56:42 -0700 Received: from rye.city.ac.uk by Rye.city.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <17654-0@Rye.city.ac.uk>; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:49:26 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:48:59 +0100 (BST) From: David Brownlee Subject: Re: Including other messages... To: Pine-Info Maillist In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On the 'gauge demand by number of requests front', I'm afraid I have to add a 'me too' to this :) D.K.Brownlee@city.ac.uk. Network Analyst. Postmaster. Hostmaster. <_.-^-._> Telephone: (+44) 71 477 8000 Ext:3757. <_.-^-._> Snailmail:E308, City University, Northampton Sq, Islington, London EC1V 0HB. On Thu, 14 Apr 1994, charlieb wrote: > > Pine Team, > > I'd just like to make sure that one of the things on your to-do list is to > allow other messages to be included (in the manner of a reply) when > composing or replying. This is about the only thing that I regularly have > to go outside of Pine to do. > > Charlie Brady * (W) charlieb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au * (H) charlieb@budge.apana.org.au > "Make it as simple as possible - | Tel: (02) 413 6838 ____Telectronics__| /\__ > but no simpler" Einstein, A | Fax: (02) 413 6868 Pacing Systems \/ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 08:18:56 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21404; Thu, 14 Apr 94 08:18:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11712; Thu, 14 Apr 94 07:59:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail2.rdg.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11705; Thu, 14 Apr 94 07:59:49 -0700 Received: from reading.ac.uk by mail2.reading.ac.uk with SMTP - Local (PP) id <20015-0@mail2.reading.ac.uk>; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:59:30 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:59:29 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Roch Subject: Re: Including other messages... To: charlieb Cc: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 517 On Thu, 14 Apr 1994, charlieb wrote: > I'd just like to make sure that one of the things on your to-do list is to > allow other messages to be included (in the manner of a reply) when > composing or replying. This is about the only thing that I regularly have Seconded! Mike ============================================================================== Mike Roch, Computer Services Centre, Tel: 0734 318430 The University, Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF Fax: 0734 753094 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 08:41:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22238; Thu, 14 Apr 94 08:41:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10228; Thu, 14 Apr 94 08:18:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from acad.csv.kutztown.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10222; Thu, 14 Apr 94 08:18:14 -0700 Received: by acad.csv.kutztown.edu (5.65/1.35) id AA23629; Thu, 14 Apr 94 11:19:09 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 11:19:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lisa M. Frye" Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi cmd in unix? To: John Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII John, I have a small program which does the same as your ansiprint. However, my program, as well as yours, do not take into account the time it takes for the printer to do a formfeed at the end of the page. I am looking for a way to do that so printouts from unix to the ansi printer do not lose 3 lines between every page. Lisa Frye frye@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Network Software Specialist LMS Annex Room 105 Kutztown University phone: 610-683-4474 Kutztown, PA. 19530 fax: 610-683-4634 "You can bring a person to the university, but you can't make him think." On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, John Miller wrote: > On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > The Pine source distribution includes a small utility program called > > ansiprt that will do this in the contrib/utils directory. Documentstion > > for the program is included in the source file. > > Well, the documentation doesn't really say how to use the command, or > that the command line option, if present, tells whether to output a ctrl-d > after detecting the EOF on input.. or under what situations you might > want to do that. I simplified the program to the following, "ansiprint": > > % more ansiprint.c > > #include > > main (argc,argv) > char *argv[]; > int argc; > > { > char c; > > putchar ('\033'); > putchar ('['); > putchar ('5'); > putchar ('i'); > > while ((c=getchar())!=EOF) putchar(c); > putchar ('\f'); > > putchar ('\033'); > putchar ('['); > putchar ('4'); > putchar ('i'); > } > > I found that I had to add the \f (formfeed) at the end in order to force Mac > VersaTerm to print the unix file to attached imagewriter NOW.. otherwise > it just wanted to buffer it up and print when it had what it considered to be > a pagefull. I found that ansiprt and pine's print had different results, so > I looked into pine's print routine to determine that the above did the trick. > > To use ansiprint: > > % ansiprint < myfile > or > % cmd1 | cmd2 | ansiprint > > ansiprint does not take a file name on the command line. You must use > indirection or put at the end of a pipeline. > > Feel free to use. No liabilities here. :^) > > John Miller > Lewis & Clark College > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 09:50:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25443; Thu, 14 Apr 94 09:50:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13666; Thu, 14 Apr 94 09:22:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13660; Thu, 14 Apr 94 09:22:20 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19651; Thu, 14 Apr 94 09:22:02 -0700 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 09:22:02 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: John Stumbles Cc: Pine User Group Subject: re: attachments In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 14 Apr 1994, John Stumbles wrote: > When I first came across a message with an attachment I was confused to find > that asking to view attachment number 1 put me back into viewing the plain > message. I was in naive user mode, and I am guessing that other naive users > would find it similarly confusing (even with the attachment view/save interface > cleaned up). > Your point is well taken. Hopefully we can clear it up with the redesign. > I do think attachment number 1 should be the first actual attachment - if (as > Terry suggests) it is necessary or desirable to be able to invoke the > attachment view/save mechanism for the body, couldn't this be referred to as > part 0 ?? That way the smart users would be able to do what they want, and the > naive users would get what they expect when they do what comes naturally - > which is the pine philosophy, n'est ce pas? > Actually, Pine doesn't make it available, but I believe the underlying c-client code calls the message headers part 0. > BTW Terry, I don't understand your second point - I thought email message > bodies were exclusively ascii text (give or take some differences in national > character sets) - isn't this what attachments are all about? Surely if anyone > produces a mailer that sends out first body parts that are not ascii, 99.99% of > other mailers won't be able to read it without fiddling about, and it isn't > going to be very popular? > Attachments are a Pine concept, not a MIME concept. To be minimally conformant to the MIME specification, a mailer must be able to handle *any* mix of content-types in a reasonable fashion. For example, I have heard of sites experimenting with voice-mail via MIME, in which case there would be no purpose in having anything but the audio/basic content. Any MIME mailer should be able to at least save it to a file... > > John Stumbles j.d.stumbles@reading.ac.uk > University of Reading 0734 318435 > Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF, UK > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 09:51:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25539; Thu, 14 Apr 94 09:51:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13576; Thu, 14 Apr 94 09:18:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from suma2.rdg.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13570; Thu, 14 Apr 94 09:18:40 -0700 Received: from reading.ac.uk by mail2.reading.ac.uk with SMTP - Local (PP) id <22280-0@mail2.reading.ac.uk>; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 17:18:18 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 17:18:18 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Roch Reply-To: Mike Roch Subject: Pine as a newsreader To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Length: 511 We're happily using Pine as a newsreader (mostly 3.07, some 3.89). I'm toying with the idea of setting up anonymous news access via Pine; how can I do this so that the default folder colletion presented will be the entire set of newsgroups in /usr/lib/news/active? Mike ============================================================================== Mike Roch, Computer Services Centre, Tel: 0734 318430 The University, Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF Fax: 0734 753094 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 10:37:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27393; Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:37:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14644; Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:11:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14638; Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:11:02 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20595; Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:10:39 -0700 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 10:10:39 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: charlieb@budge.apana.org.au Cc: Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: Including other messages... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It's on the list.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 14 Apr 1994 charlieb@budge.apana.org.au wrote: > > Pine Team, > > I'd just like to make sure that one of the things on your to-do list is to > allow other messages to be included (in the manner of a reply) when > composing or replying. This is about the only thing that I regularly have > to go outside of Pine to do. > > Charlie Brady * (W) charlieb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au * (H) charlieb@budge.apana.org.au > "Make it as simple as possible - | Tel: (02) 413 6838 ____Telectronics__| /\__ > but no simpler" Einstein, A | Fax: (02) 413 6868 Pacing Systems \/ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 11:15:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28770; Thu, 14 Apr 94 11:15:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15317; Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:49:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15311; Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:49:33 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21463; Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:49:15 -0700 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 10:49:14 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Mike Roch Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine as a newsreader In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mike, For pine 3.89, set inbox-path=*{newsserver/anonymous}[] (anonymous IMAP) or inbox-path=*[] (local news) or inbox-path=*{newsserver/nntp}[] (nntp) where newsserver is the hostname of the news server. You will need to generate the .newsrc file externally, perhaps a shell/perl script that builds the file then invokes Pine. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 14 Apr 1994, Mike Roch wrote: > We're happily using Pine as a newsreader (mostly 3.07, some 3.89). I'm > toying with the idea of setting up anonymous news access via Pine; how can > I do this so that the default folder colletion presented will be the > entire set of newsgroups in /usr/lib/news/active? > > Mike > > ============================================================================== > Mike Roch, Computer Services Centre, Tel: 0734 318430 > The University, Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF Fax: 0734 753094 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 11:22:56 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29063; Thu, 14 Apr 94 11:22:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15717; Thu, 14 Apr 94 11:05:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mi.engin.umich.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15706; Thu, 14 Apr 94 11:05:51 -0700 Received: (messina@localhost) by mi.engin.umich.edu (8.6.8/8.6.4) id OAA27321; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 14:05:48 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 13:59:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Messina Reply-To: Matt Messina Subject: How do you post to a newsgroup in pine? To: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII While reading USENET, I've seen articles with a Message-ID header with "pine" in it. How do you post from pine? (I do know how to read news in Pine.) My primary account has v3.87 installed and my other account has v3.89. Thanks. -- Matt Messina Vote YES on rec.arts.ascii matt.messina@umich.edu CFV: coming soon to a n.a.newgroups near you From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 11:32:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29474; Thu, 14 Apr 94 11:32:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15473; Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:58:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15467; Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:58:12 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA11515; Thu, 14 Apr 94 13:58:03 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA07946; Thu, 14 Apr 94 13:58:28 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 13:58:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: News and cross-posting To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have noticed that pine does not deal with cross-posted messages. In rn, if you read something that was cross-posted to both alt.hari.krishna and alt.new.wave.toenails, you only have to read it from one newsgroup. If it is cross-posted to 5 newsgroups, again the news reader should be able to update my .newsrc file such that I would not have to read the same article in more than one group. Is this change made in 3.90? Also, will the 3.90 pine newsreader do threads? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "A job ain't nothing but work" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Mo Money ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 11:36:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29642; Thu, 14 Apr 94 11:36:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15946; Thu, 14 Apr 94 11:18:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sun.lclark.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15940; Thu, 14 Apr 94 11:18:48 -0700 Received: from sun (sun.lclark.edu) by lclark.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26834; Thu, 14 Apr 94 11:18:29 PDT Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 11:18:29 -0700 (PDT) From: John Miller Reply-To: John Miller Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi cmd in unix? To: "Lisa M. Frye" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Thu, 14 Apr 1994, Lisa M. Frye wrote: > I have a small program which does the same as your ansiprint. > However, my program, as well as yours, do not take into account the time > it takes for the printer to do a formfeed at the end of the page. I am > looking for a way to do that so printouts from unix to the ansi printer > do not lose 3 lines between every page. Lisa, et. al, how about adding: for (i=0; i #define PADCOUNT 10 main (argc,argv) char *argv[]; int argc; { char c; int i; putchar ('\033'); putchar ('['); putchar ('5'); putchar ('i'); while ((c=getchar())!=EOF) { putchar(c); if (c=='\f') for (i=0; i Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13765; Thu, 14 Apr 94 11:35:32 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22488; Thu, 14 Apr 94 11:35:13 -0700 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 11:35:12 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Matt Messina Cc: Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: How do you post to a newsgroup in pine? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Matt, There are a few of us on the Pine Development Team who have been using an experimental version of pine that supports posting. Other than that you might be seeing some postings through an email-to-news gateway.... --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 14 Apr 1994, Matt Messina wrote: > While reading USENET, I've seen articles with a Message-ID header with > "pine" in it. How do you post from pine? (I do know how to read news > in Pine.) My primary account has v3.87 installed and my other account > has v3.89. Thanks. > -- > Matt Messina Vote YES on rec.arts.ascii > matt.messina@umich.edu CFV: coming soon to a n.a.newgroups near you > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 13:22:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03994; Thu, 14 Apr 94 13:22:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18087; Thu, 14 Apr 94 13:07:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uu3.psi.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18076; Thu, 14 Apr 94 13:07:44 -0700 Received: from naz.edu by uu3.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA20322 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 94 15:50:24 -0400 Received: from libra.naz.edu by naz.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-DNI) id AA09923; Thu, 14 Apr 94 15:32:10 EDT Received: by libra.naz.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA16256; Thu, 14 Apr 94 15:33:19 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:32:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael A Naud Reply-To: Michael A Naud Subject: Customizing who to call text screen To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII How do I customize the help menu in pine that directs people where/who to call for assistance? I have a mail account set up for pine related questions that I'd like to include in there. The system admin. that did it before has left us. Thanks in advance for the help. Also, like the idea of including other massages al a ~m 2 into a new message. Hope it gets included soon. Michael A. Naud ---- Michael A. Naud Nazareth College of Rochester (716) 586-2525 ext.827 VOICE Dept. of Academic Computing (716) 586-2452 FACSIMILE 4245 East Avenue manaud@naz.edu E-MAIL Rochester, NY 14618-3980 USA "...you're Norma Desmond. You were big." Gloria Swanson to William "I am big. It's the pictures that got small." Holden in "Sunset Boulevard" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 13:55:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05004; Thu, 14 Apr 94 13:55:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18685; Thu, 14 Apr 94 13:41:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18679; Thu, 14 Apr 94 13:41:18 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24975; Thu, 14 Apr 94 13:40:59 -0700 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 13:40:59 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Michael A Naud Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Customizing who to call text screen In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Michael, Pine will insert the contents of /usr/local/lib/pine.info, if it exists, into the "Local Contacts" portion of the help text. You can also set the initial addressbook entries by setting the bugs-nickname, bugs-fullname, and bugs-address in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf. The next release of Pine will include support for replying to and forwarding multiple messages. A more generic inclusion capability will come later. Thanks for the requests! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 14 Apr 1994, Michael A Naud wrote: > > How do I customize the help menu in pine that directs people where/who to > call for assistance? I have a mail account set up for pine related questions > that I'd like to include in there. The system admin. that did it before > has left us. Thanks in advance for the help. > > Also, like the idea of including other massages al a ~m 2 into a new > message. Hope it gets included soon. > > Michael A. Naud > > ---- > Michael A. Naud Nazareth College of Rochester > (716) 586-2525 ext.827 VOICE Dept. of Academic Computing > (716) 586-2452 FACSIMILE 4245 East Avenue > manaud@naz.edu E-MAIL Rochester, NY 14618-3980 USA > > "...you're Norma Desmond. You were big." Gloria Swanson to William > "I am big. It's the pictures that got small." Holden in "Sunset Boulevard" > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 14:19:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05667; Thu, 14 Apr 94 14:19:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18889; Thu, 14 Apr 94 13:58:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from cs1.bradley.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18883; Thu, 14 Apr 94 13:58:49 -0700 Received: by cs1.bradley.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04651; Thu, 14 Apr 94 15:58:30 CDT Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:58:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Matt Simmons Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi cmd in unix? To: "Lisa M. Frye" Cc: John Miller , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 14 Apr 1994, Lisa M. Frye wrote: > I have a small program which does the same as your ansiprint. > However, my program, as well as yours, do not take into account the time > it takes for the printer to do a formfeed at the end of the page. I am > looking for a way to do that so printouts from unix to the ansi printer > do not lose 3 lines between every page. Do something like this: if char=^L then sleep(1) one second should be long enough, but it can always be lengthened. Hell, you could put the sleep time as a command line option _________ |_ __ \ U R D U E U N I V E R S I T Y Womens 94 NCAA Final Four | |__| | Currently: zarthac@cs1.bradley.edu Bradley University | ____/ zarthac@camelot.bradley.edu Peoria, Illinois | | Spring 94 - Soph by years, Junior by credits _| |_ Fall 94 - Junior by years, Soph by credits - Only Purdue makes |______| U R D U E U N I V E R S I T Y it possible From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 14:37:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06292; Thu, 14 Apr 94 14:37:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16323; Thu, 14 Apr 94 14:13:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16317; Thu, 14 Apr 94 14:12:59 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25548; Thu, 14 Apr 94 14:12:45 -0700 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 14:12:44 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Bruce Mahfood Cc: Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: News and cross-posting In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Bruce, Neither of these will make it into Pine 3.90. We will keep them on the list for future releases though. Thanks for the suggestions! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 14 Apr 1994, Bruce Mahfood wrote: > I have noticed that pine does not deal with cross-posted messages. In > rn, if you read something that was cross-posted to both alt.hari.krishna > and alt.new.wave.toenails, you only have to read it from one newsgroup. > If it is cross-posted to 5 newsgroups, again the news reader should be > able to update my .newsrc file such that I would not have to read the > same article in more than one group. Is this change made in 3.90? > > Also, will the 3.90 pine newsreader do threads? > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! > ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "A job ain't nothing but work" ! > ! 304 Vassar St. ! Mo Money ! > ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 15:00:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06916; Thu, 14 Apr 94 15:00:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19678; Thu, 14 Apr 94 14:41:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from yacht.ee.fit.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19672; Thu, 14 Apr 94 14:41:05 -0700 Received: by ee.fit.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0/900117wah) id AA12692; Thu, 14 Apr 94 17:39:54 EDT Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 17:39:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Subject: Message of the day. To: Pine List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We are in the process of reorganizing some of our hard drives and would like to give everybody a message telling them where to post any troubles they may come across. We have set up a message that runs before nn executes, and were wondering if a similar feature exists in Pine. If not, perhaps this could be a future enhancement ... ? (Just for reference, it's not really plausible to post everyone a message becuase of the limitations on disk space, &c.) -= Chris =- [.Sig closed for repair] (ccurtis@ee.fit.edu) ... (cwcurtis@roo.fit.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 16:26:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10036; Thu, 14 Apr 94 16:26:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21033; Thu, 14 Apr 94 16:00:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [202.12.88.9] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21027; Thu, 14 Apr 94 16:00:14 -0700 Return-Path: Received: by budge (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0prQg4-00012UC; Thu, 14 Apr 94 22:37 EST Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 22:37:52 +0000 From: Subject: Re: Bug: save to a file named * Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, Joe Brennan wrote: > > I see the save command (when viewing a message) lets me save to a file > named *. One of our users did this by accident, and decided to fix it > afterwards by doing rm mail/*, and even though we have rm aliased to > rm -i, he told it OK to do it. > > * is an unlikely filename to want; some other special characters would > also be "fun" for novices to handle in filenames. Do you all feel like > imposing a character test for file creation? ^R wouldn't let me type in "/mnt/a:" - it baulked at the ":". That's a bug. Charlie Brady * (W) charlieb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au * (H) charlieb@budge.apana.org.au "Make it as simple as possible - | Tel: (02) 413 6838 ____Telectronics__| /\__ but no simpler" Einstein, A | Fax: (02) 413 6868 Pacing Systems \/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 17:57:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13333; Thu, 14 Apr 94 17:57:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22826; Thu, 14 Apr 94 17:39:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shamash.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22817; Thu, 14 Apr 94 17:39:18 -0700 Received: by shamash.cdc.com (4.1/SMI-4.0/CDC1.1) id AA28106; Thu, 14 Apr 94 19:39:09 CDT Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA24426; Fri, 15 Apr 94 08:13:10 +0800 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 08:13:09 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Message of the day. To: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Cc: Pine List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 14 Apr 1994, Christopher "AWOL" Curtis wrote: > We are in the process of reorganizing some of our hard drives and would > like to give everybody a message telling them where to post any troubles > they may come across. We have set up a message that runs before nn > executes, and were wondering if a similar feature exists in Pine. If > not, perhaps this could be a future enhancement ... ? > > (Just for reference, it's not really plausible to post everyone a > message becuase of the limitations on disk space, &c.) I may be mis-understanding what you are after. But, how about doing the following: 1. Rename pine to something else, e.g. "forest" 2. Create a shell script called "pine" that echos the message you want to the person's screen and then calls "forest". (At this point I was going to insert a pun about the user not being able to see the forest because of the tree.....but never mind.) Ed Edward M. Greshko Control Data Taiwan Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 23:23:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18036; Thu, 14 Apr 94 23:23:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23174; Thu, 14 Apr 94 23:12:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from azure.engin.umich.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23168; Thu, 14 Apr 94 23:12:55 -0700 Received: (messina@localhost) by azure.engin.umich.edu (8.6.8/8.6.4) id CAA18806; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 02:12:51 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 02:05:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Messina Subject: Re: Customizing who to call text screen To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 14 Apr 1994, Michael A Naud wrote: > > How do I customize the help menu in pine that directs people where/who to > call for assistance? I have a mail account set up for pine related questions > that I'd like to include in there. The system admin. that did it before > has left us. Thanks in advance for the help. >From the man page... FILES /usr/spool/mail/xxxx Folder for incoming mail ~/.addressbook Ascii address book file ~/mail Directory of mail folders ~/.pine-debugx Diagnostic log for debugging ~/.pinerc The user pine configuration file /usr/local/lib/pine.info Local pointer to system adminis- trator /usr/local/lib/pine.conf System wide pine configuration file /tmp/.\usr\spool\mail\xxxx Read/write per folder/mailbox lock files It appears that the file is /usr/local/lib/pine.info. -- Matt Messina Vote YES on rec.arts.ascii matt.messina@umich.edu CFV: coming soon to a n.a.newgroups near you From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 23:44:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18254; Thu, 14 Apr 94 23:44:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23277; Thu, 14 Apr 94 23:32:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from netcom3.netcom.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23271; Thu, 14 Apr 94 23:32:55 -0700 Received: from localhost by mail.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id XAA27803; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 23:34:07 -0700 Message-Id: <199404150634.XAA27803@mail.netcom.com> From: raan@netcom.com (Ran Ever-Hadani) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 23:34:07 PDT X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Planned enhancement doc via ftp? Is there a document evailable containing a list of planned pine features? I have a few suggestions, but I would like first to know what is the current state, so that I won't waste everybody's time. Thanks -- Ran From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 15 00:44:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18936; Fri, 15 Apr 94 00:44:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26850; Fri, 15 Apr 94 00:31:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ursa.calvin.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26844; Fri, 15 Apr 94 00:31:29 -0700 Received: by Calvin.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26884; Fri, 15 Apr 94 03:31:09 EDT Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 03:31:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Omi Chandiramani Subject: Re: Planned enhancement doc via ftp To: Ran Ever-Hadani Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <199404150634.XAA27803@mail.netcom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 14 Apr 1994, Ran Ever-Hadani wrote: > Is there a document evailable containing a list of planned pine > features? I have a few suggestions, but I would like first to know > what is the current state, so that I won't waste everybody's time. > [..] Go ahead and make your requests. The importance of a request is judged by the number of times it appears on this list. A debatable algorithm but thats how it works.. Omi Chandiramani ochand70@calvin.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 15 00:53:34 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19176; Fri, 15 Apr 94 00:53:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26903; Fri, 15 Apr 94 00:36:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from azure.engin.umich.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26897; Fri, 15 Apr 94 00:36:54 -0700 Received: (messina@localhost) by azure.engin.umich.edu (8.6.8/8.6.4) id DAA22344; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 03:36:52 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 03:29:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Messina Reply-To: Matt Messina Subject: KBLock problem To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I'm new to this list, so I hope I not bringing up topics you've all seen a hundred times. There's got to be a way to trap the Quit signal. KBLock is useless if it will defer to Quit. I would consider losing the ability to "Emergency Exit" while the keyboard is locked a small price compared to having a insecure keyboard lock command that some might consider secure. As Phil Zimmerman said in the PGP Documentation, wrongly used encryption is often less privacy protecting than not using encryption at all (actually, when he said it, it was good English, but you get the idea). The same goes for the KBLock command. -- Matt Messina Vote YES on rec.arts.ascii matt.messina@umich.edu CFV: coming soon to a n.a.newgroups near you From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 15 02:06:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20591; Fri, 15 Apr 94 02:06:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27615; Fri, 15 Apr 94 01:53:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from dummy1.dur.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27609; Fri, 15 Apr 94 01:53:40 -0700 Received: from venus.dur.ac.uk by dummy1.dur.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <04440-0@dummy1.dur.ac.uk>; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 09:53:06 +0100 Received: from vega.dur.ac.uk by venus.dur.ac.uk; Fri, 15 Apr 94 09:53:04 BST Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 09:52:58 +0100 (BST) From: Barry Cornelius Subject: Re: Setting a global From address To: David L Miller Cc: Cindy Jenkins , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 944 On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > Cindy, > The next release of Pine will support both the Reply-To: header and a > pre-settable From: header. We expect to have it available later this spring. Although it may be useful at other sites, we would be very unhappy if our users have the ability to change the From: line. I hope that, if this facility is included, you will also allow for the person who is installing Pine to disable the facility. If not, we will have to patch Pine 3.90 when we receive it in order to disable the setting of the From: line. If we don't do this, my guess we would have lots of faked mail sent. -- Barry Cornelius Durham (091 or +44 91) 374 4717 Information Technology Service, IT Service Office: 374 2892 Science Site, University of Durham, Fax: 374 3741 Durham, DH1 3LE, UK E-mail: Barry.Cornelius@durham.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 15 03:05:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21369; Fri, 15 Apr 94 03:05:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24888; Fri, 15 Apr 94 02:41:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24861; Fri, 15 Apr 94 02:41:00 -0700 Received: from modem65.ucdavis.edu by bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu (8.6.8/UCD2.50) id CAA03297; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 02:40:15 -0700 Message-Id: <199404150940.CAA03297@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: ez006683@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 02:40:29 -0700 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ddtodd@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu (Daniel D. Todd) Subject: Re: Setting a global From address Cc: Cindy Jenkins , pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: At 09:52 AM 4/15/94, Barry Cornelius wrote: >Although it may be useful at other sites, we would be very unhappy if our >users have the ability to change the From: line. I hope that, if this >facility is included, you will also allow for the person who is installing >Pine to disable the facility. > >If not, we will have to patch Pine 3.90 when we receive it in order to >disable the setting of the From: line. If we don't do this, my guess we >would have lots of faked mail sent. > And hope no-one compiles it in their own directory? cheers, Dan ============================================================================ ====== Dan Todd ddtodd@ucdavis.edu kc6uud@ke6lw.#nocal.ca.us.na 1750 Hanover #102 Davis, CA 95616 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Clinton and Al Gore know that the Constitution guarantees an individuals basic right to keep and bear arms, and they will uphold that right. - Whitehouse Position Paper======================================================================= =========== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 15 03:27:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21844; Fri, 15 Apr 94 03:27:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28116; Fri, 15 Apr 94 03:05:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from omega.qmw.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28087; Fri, 15 Apr 94 03:04:57 -0700 Received: from osprey.elec.qmw.ac.uk by omega.qmw.ac.uk with SMTP-DNS (PP) id <20185-0@omega.qmw.ac.uk>; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 10:59:40 +0100 Received: from osprey.elec.qmw.ac.uk by osprey.elec.qmw.ac.uk with SMTP (smail) id ; Fri, 15 Apr 94 11:04 BST Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 11:03:33 GMT From: Laurie Cuthbert Subject: Re: Setting a global From address To: Barry Cornelius Cc: David L Miller , Cindy Jenkins , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I agree. We have a lot of aggravation with people using Eudora setting the From: field incorrectly. In fact its so much of a pain that we have a table in our MTA (smail) setup that looks for people who have an incorrect From: field and re-writes it for them (in those cases we throw away their Repy-To: field on the grounds that if they have messed around with From: then Reply-To: is also likely to be wrong!). The only 2 MUAs that currently give us NO grief are pine and ECSmail so it would be a pity if there was no configuration switch to turn off such facilities. This is especially important with PC-Pine that we use with students in unsupervised environments - we have already had instances with faked mail (in some cases obscene faked mail) from people doing a telnet to port 25 so I would hate to see life made easier for the little .....s Regards Laurie Cuthbert On Fri, 15 Apr 1994 09:52:58 +0100 (BST) Barry Cornelius wrote: > From: Barry Cornelius > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 09:52:58 +0100 (BST) > Subject: Re: Setting a global From address > To: David L Miller > Cc: Cindy Jenkins , pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > Cindy, > > The next release of Pine will support both the Reply-To: header and a > > pre-settable From: header. We expect to have it available later this spring. > > Although it may be useful at other sites, we would be very unhappy if our > users have the ability to change the From: line. I hope that, if this > facility is included, you will also allow for the person who is installing > Pine to disable the facility. > > If not, we will have to patch Pine 3.90 when we receive it in order to > disable the setting of the From: line. If we don't do this, my guess we > would have lots of faked mail sent. > > -- > Barry Cornelius Durham (091 or +44 91) 374 4717 > Information Technology Service, IT Service Office: 374 2892 > Science Site, University of Durham, Fax: 374 3741 > Durham, DH1 3LE, UK E-mail: Barry.Cornelius@durham.ac.uk > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 15 05:26:11 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24083; Fri, 15 Apr 94 05:26:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29354; Fri, 15 Apr 94 05:09:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shamash.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29348; Fri, 15 Apr 94 05:09:41 -0700 Received: by shamash.cdc.com (4.1/SMI-4.0/CDC1.1) id AA29856; Fri, 15 Apr 94 07:09:33 CDT Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA03132; Fri, 15 Apr 94 20:04:30 +0800 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 20:04:29 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Planned enhancement doc via ftp To: Omi Chandiramani Cc: Ran Ever-Hadani , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, Omi Chandiramani wrote: > Go ahead and make your requests. The importance of a request is judged by > the number of times it appears on this list. A debatable algorithm but > thats how it works.. Please don't take that statement so literally. I'm sure that the priorities placed on enhancements are determined by more than the number of requests. Also, before you decide to ask for an enhancement...think about it for a day or two. Is it really something that would be wanted and needed by others? One has to start being concerned about creaping featurism. Also, as more and more people start using pine you have to starting thinking about how changes are going affect more and more people. I see the time coming where a "final" release of pine should occur. It should be feature rich enough for the average email user to be happy using it and as bug free as possible. You will then have a mature product that many people will be happy with and won't feel the need to keep current. And think of all the fun you will have with the context to name the next generation... Ed Edward M. Greshko Control Data Taiwan Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 15 05:58:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24522; Fri, 15 Apr 94 05:58:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26394; Fri, 15 Apr 94 05:41:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mhc.mtholyoke.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26388; Fri, 15 Apr 94 05:41:19 -0700 Received: by mhc.mtholyoke.edu (Ver_940415.01) id AA25368; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 08:41:17 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 08:41:17 -0400 From: mcrowley@mhc.mtholyoke.edu (Michael A. Crowley) Message-Id: <9404151241.AA25368@mhc.mtholyoke.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Progress of pine Recently I've read various postings to this list about what pine should have, how it should work, and even how the pine team should do their jobs. Suggestions to the pine team for various and sundry improvements can help hone the product for everyone, including the University. However, I think the various users of pine need to keep in mind that the pine team has produced and is still working on a product for the University of Washington and that it is a tribute to the University that this product is allowed to be used by anyone for no cost. There is a great benefit to the Internet community to have projects like this going on. The costs to the host institution are not trivial; the overall benefits are tremendous. mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 15 06:40:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24958; Fri, 15 Apr 94 06:40:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29931; Fri, 15 Apr 94 06:24:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from LL.MIT.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29925; Fri, 15 Apr 94 06:24:10 -0700 Received: by ll.mit.edu (4.1/LL-1.3) id AA02105; Fri, 15 Apr 94 09:19:30 EDT Return-Path: Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 09:19:30 -0400 From: James Dryfoos Subject: Wastebasket request To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <9404150919.AA13061@LL.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to request a configurable wastebasket option. It would be nice if it worked like sent-mail where it is moved into individual monthly folders and optionally deleted. -- Jim ========================================================================== James D. Dryfoos | dryfoos@ll.mit.edu MIT Lincoln Labs, Group 28 | 244 Wood Street, MailStop: C159 | (617) 981-2008 - office Lexington, MA 02173, Earth | (617) 981-0782 - fax ========================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 15 07:04:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25384; Fri, 15 Apr 94 07:04:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26874; Fri, 15 Apr 94 06:41:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from cd1.lrz-muenchen.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26868; Fri, 15 Apr 94 06:41:41 -0700 Received: from sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de by cd1.lrz-muenchen.de; Fri, 15 Apr 94 15:41:20 +0200 Received: from sun3.lrz-muenchen.de by sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26146; Fri, 15 Apr 94 15:41:19 +0200 Received: by sun3.lrz-muenchen.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04300; Fri, 15 Apr 94 15:41:19 +0200 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 15:41:18 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Wolf Subject: Re: Progress of pine To: "Michael A. Crowley" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <9404151241.AA25368@mhc.mtholyoke.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We all really should not forget this. Michael On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, Michael A. Crowley wrote: > > Recently I've read various postings to this list about what > pine should have, how it should work, and even how the pine > team should do their jobs.Suggestions to the pine team for > various and sundry improvements can help hone the product for > everyone, including the University. > > However, I think the various users of pine need to keep in mind > that the pine team has produced and is still working on a product > for the University of Washington and that it is a tribute to > the University that this product is allowed to be used by anyone > for no cost.There is a great benefit to the Internet community > to have projects like this going on.The costs to the host > institution are not trivial; the overall benefits are tremendous. > > mike > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 15 08:13:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26434; Fri, 15 Apr 94 08:13:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01043; Fri, 15 Apr 94 07:57:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from offsv1.cis.McMaster.CA by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01037; Fri, 15 Apr 94 07:57:45 -0700 Received: by offsv1.cis.mcmaster.ca id AA15074 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Fri, 15 Apr 1994 10:57:57 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 10:57:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "Carolynn Seeley ( Spring )" Subject: Re: Progress of pine To: "Michael A. Crowley" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <9404151241.AA25368@mhc.mtholyoke.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII HEAR! HEAR! I am the PINE Administrator here at McMaster now and relatively new to UNIX as well. The support and info from the pine team has been invaluable to me in assisting me in installing the newer upgrades onto our 3 systems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carolynn Seeley (Spring) email: cseeley@mcmaster.ca Consultant, Desktop Support cseeley@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca Computing and Information Services McMaster University, JHE-122 (905) 525-9140 x27090 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, Michael A. Crowley wrote: > > Recently I've read various postings to this list about what > pine should have, how it should work, and even how the pine > team should do their jobs. Suggestions to the pine team for > various and sundry improvements can help hone the product for > everyone, including the University. > > However, I think the various users of pine need to keep in mind > that the pine team has produced and is still working on a product > for the University of Washington and that it is a tribute to > the University that this product is allowed to be used by anyone > for no cost. There is a great benefit to the Internet community > to have projects like this going on. The costs to the host > institution are not trivial; the overall benefits are tremendous. > > mike > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 15 10:19:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01806; Fri, 15 Apr 94 10:19:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03506; Fri, 15 Apr 94 10:07:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from me.engin.umich.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03491; Fri, 15 Apr 94 10:07:05 -0700 Received: (messina@localhost) by me.engin.umich.edu (8.6.8/8.6.4) id NAA19586; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 13:06:59 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 13:01:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Messina Subject: Re: Wastebasket request To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <9404150919.AA13061@LL.MIT.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, James Dryfoos wrote: > I would like to request a configurable wastebasket option. > It would be nice if it worked like sent-mail where it is moved into > individual monthly folders and optionally deleted. Perhaps I don't understand your question, but couldn't you do this with read-message-folder=trash feature-list=auto-move-read-msgs in .pinerc? It wouldn't do the monthly thing, but you could write a short script to do that in your .login file. -- Matt Messina Vote YES on rec.arts.ascii matt.messina@umich.edu CFV: coming soon to a n.a.newgroups near you From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 15 10:21:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01891; Fri, 15 Apr 94 10:21:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29765; Fri, 15 Apr 94 10:00:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from me.engin.umich.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29759; Fri, 15 Apr 94 10:00:22 -0700 Received: (messina@localhost) by me.engin.umich.edu (8.6.8/8.6.4) id NAA19568; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 13:00:18 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 12:57:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Messina Subject: Re: Setting a global From address To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, Barry Cornelius wrote: > Although it may be useful at other sites, we would be very unhappy if our > users have the ability to change the From: line. I hope that, if this > facility is included, you will also allow for the person who is installing > Pine to disable the facility. > > If not, we will have to patch Pine 3.90 when we receive it in order to > disable the setting of the From: line. If we don't do this, my guess we > would have lots of faked mail sent. I haven't actually read the RFC, but it's my understanding that that's what the Sender header line is for -- anyway, anyone who wants to fake mail could just do it with an agent other than pine (eg binmail). -- Matt Messina Vote YES on rec.arts.ascii matt.messina@umich.edu CFV: coming soon to a n.a.newgroups near you From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 15 10:37:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02289; Fri, 15 Apr 94 10:37:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03685; Fri, 15 Apr 94 10:13:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from gate.ggr.co.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03669; Fri, 15 Apr 94 10:12:50 -0700 Received: from mailhub.ggr.co.uk by gate.ggr.co.uk; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 18:11:28 +0100 Received: from uk0x04 by mailhub.ggr.co.uk; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 18:08:12 +0100 Received: by uk0x04 (8.6.8.1/imd160294) id SAA05708; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 18:11:13 +0100 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 18:11:11 +0100 (BST) From: Ian Dunkin Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests To: David L Miller Cc: Pine mailing list In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > There are some legal and political roadblocks to be passed before we would be > comfortable adding PGP support. Might RSA's recent announcement (below) that their RIPEM/SIG digital signature software is now free and exportable come in somewhere here, in the area of support for such signatures in Pine? I gather this is possible because they got a "commodities jurisdiction" ruling that the software falls under the Commerce Department's jurisdiction as opposed to the State Department and thus allows it to be freely and legally exported. ?I. -- Ian Dunkin -- o / -----------------------------x------------------------------------------ O \ >From jim@RSA.COM Fri Apr 15 18:01:01 1994 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 94 12:00:52 PST From: Jim Bidzos To: imd1707@ggr.co.uk Subject: RSAREF/RIPEM Free and Legal Worldwide More info... >From consensus@netcom.com Fri Mar 25 11:59:34 1994 X-Sender: consens@netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora 2.0.2 Organization: Consensus Development Corporation, San Francisco, CA USA Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 14:53:10 -0800 To: pem-dev@tis.com, rsaref-users@RSA.COM, cypherpunks@toad.com From: Christopher Allen Subject: ARTICLE - Two Updates Make for Digital Signatures in Email Sender: rsaref-users-request@RSA.COM -----BEGIN PRIVACY-ENHANCED MESSAGE----- Proc-Type: 4,MIC-CLEAR Content-Domain: RFC822 Originator-Certificate: MIICETCCAaYCBQJBAADUMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAgUAMGMxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlVTMSAw HgYDVQQKExdSU0EgRGF0YSBTZWN1cml0eSwgSW5jLjEyMDAGA1UECxMpVW5hZmZp bGlhdGVkIFVzZXIgQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBBdXRob3JpdHkwHhcNOTMxMDI2MDAw MDAwWhcNOTUxMDI2MjM1OTU5WjCBqjELMAkGA1UEBhMCVVMxEzARBgNVBBETCjk0 MTE0LTM2MTUxCzAJBgNVBAgTAkNBMRYwFAYDVQQHEw1TYW4gRnJhbmNpc2NvMUUw QwYDVQQJFDxjL28gQ29uc2Vuc3VzIERldmVsb3BtZW50IENvcnBvcmF0aW9uLCA0 MTA0LTI0dGggU3RyZWV0IKY0MTkxGjAYBgNVBAMTEUNocmlzdG9waGVyIEFsbGVu MFwwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADSwAwSAJBAMDg2GDo+1J5OQ+Sx6Ub3WkKzJkBV1f+ uognXb5tTNOdskyKKmMpNivX3yNW9yLNxdaMSU7/s8Nq5Oh3Y7KMunUCAwEAATAN BgkqhkiG9w0BAQIFAANWAAEnzrJ1IFNscUI4zJl7HjZIw4rR2Zmh7nJ0qVH55X72 DU8VP/TBdiEWbhfM1qMthQqmnTNYZ9aq7J1d54nRMbk0ccqSapmqknaKiWqdCXBj Qcxg88p= Issuer-Certificate: MIIB/jCCAWsCBQIFAAABMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAgUAMFwxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlVTMSAw HgYDVQQKExdSU0EgRGF0YSBTZWN1cml0eSwgSW5jLjErMCkGA1UECxMiQ29tbWVy Y2lhbCBDZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIEF1dGhvcml0eTAeFw05MzA1MDEwMDAwMDBaFw05 ODA0MzAyMzU5NTlaMGMxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlVTMSAwHgYDVQQKExdSU0EgRGF0YSBT ZWN1cml0eSwgSW5jLjEyMDAGA1UECxMpVW5hZmZpbGlhdGVkIFVzZXIgQ2VydGlm aWNhdGlvbiBBdXRob3JpdHkwcDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAANfADBcAlUxe5CmA5dy igi8ZWJpGJdctHi5wvnIVcG9aupi7+ym5hDyFtVLEeJy5U31xIHz/RSoRJvy0RiY LtSUOZWWlHol6aEzss1lEknAZNX1aluc+ia7NuvxAgMBAAEwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEC BQADfgBe/pia8Oo46rbZlEZE5S0JDsrqWRS5v2ia0D55lJHQqr5vLY0pJy4sSbcp 0r7ZihMMEEO4o8Mu5ZjM8F1ZfEXPy0mWaHPoVxvb13sXgo17Q9m2U58hvjI72U0m nyB7fXhsjlnFSm8PN0zaTx6RRv8dxvyC42V2mPz6xciQcw== MIC-Info: RSA-MD5,RSA, BVNiXNeTZzv5ChVt/OzLHOvgQ0XbSIW5GsUV/Da58fSVFcxc+OF2R6MMH3NxcWPu tlpZNMVi51vRzw0pLH2psg== Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 14:41:00 -0800 Subject: ARTICLE - Two Updates Make for Digital Signatures in Email From: Christopher Allen Reply-To: Christopher Allen Originator: Christopher Allen Organization: Consensus Development Corporation, San Francisco, CA USA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: consens@netcom.com X-Last-Updated: 1994/03/23 X-Text-Source: ftp://netcom7.netcom.com/pub/consensus/text/Two_Updates_Dig_Sig.txt X-HTML-Source: ftp://netcom7.netcom.com/pub/consensus/www/Two_Updates_Dig_Sig.html Summary: This article is about two recent software updates, RIPEM 1.2 and RSAREF 2.0, which are significanct to the progress of using digital signatures in electronic mail. Keywords: article, christopher allen, consensus development, ripem, ripem/sig, rsaref, digital, signature, electronic, mail, email, security, privacy, privacy enhanced mail, pem, export, decryption encryption, cryptography, authentication, rsa data security, pgp, pretty good privacy, software, license, patent TWO UPDATES MAKE FOR DIGITAL SIGNATURES IN EMAIL ================================================ by Christopher Allen Copyright (c)1994 by Consensus Development Corporation--All Rights Reserved. See the end of this article for the full copyright notice. DIGITAL SIGNATURES - ------------------ One of the real up-and-coming uses of encryption technology is for applying digital ``signatures'' to various electronic documents. Such signatures are not forgeable and guarantee that a document originates with its author. If Dartmouth College had such a system in place recently, a message impersonating a faculty member announcing the cancellation of an exam might have been avoided. Digital signatures can also be used to detect viruses before infected files execute. Up to now, however, digitally signing documents has not been an easy task. The first hurdle has been an inability to export the technology overseas, making it virtually impossible to standardize on a signature method. Secondly, it has been difficult to license the technology patents involved. The use of a freeware software utility called Pretty Good Privacy (PGP) has caused some difficulties as well. Since PGP has already found its way overseas and has gained some popularity, in particular because US digital signature software has not been easily exportable. In the United States, many organizations are reluctant to use PGP because of its questionable patent status. In addition, its author, Phil Zimmermann, is under investigation for possible export violations. These problems have kept organizations from adopting PGP as a standard. Two recent announcements have significantly changed things. The first announcement is the release of two new versions of RIPEM, one called RIPEM, the other called RIPEM/SIG. RIPEM is a free version of the Internet Privacy Enhanced Mail (PEM) standard implemented by Mark Riordan of Michigan State University. RIPEM/SIG is a subset of RIPEM that allows users to digitally sign their e-mail documents but does not allow encryption or decryption. What is significant about this announcement is that Riordan--in cooperation with RSA Data Security, Inc--has received a ``commodities jurisdiction'' ruling which allows free and legal export of non-encrypting RIPEM/SIG outside of the US. This means both US and overseas users can now standardize on a single set of software, instead of only working with RIPEM inside the US and PGP outside. This release also addresses some of the complaints of PGP users: both RIPEM and RIPEM/SIG support a non-hierarchical trust model similar to PGP, and for US users the non-exportable version of RIPEM provides full triple-DES privacy. Even though the triple-DES RIPEM may not be exportable, Riordan is working with authors of independently developed PEM applications in other countries with the goal of 100% interoperability in a version 2.0 of RIPEM. Until that time, since RIPEM/SIG is free and exportable, users could send a non-US or Canadian user both RIPEM/SIG and the message to be authenticated. The second announcement is from RSA Data Security, Inc. for the 2.0 version of RSAREF. RSAREF is a source code cryptographic toolkit designed specifically for writing PEM applications as well other fundamental cryptographic and digital signature tools. In fact, RIPEM is based on the RSAREF source code. What is most significant about this new RSAREF is that RSA Data Security has changed its license to make RSAREF much more accessible to both corporations and commercial and non-commercial developers. Freeware products (i.e., software where no fee other than media or bandwidth cost is requested) can use the RSAREF toolkit provided that the public has access to the product's source code. Though a new license agreement has not been finalized, I've been told by RSA that they will grant a royalty-free license for shareware products for up to $10,000 worth of gross annual sales if the shareware source code is available and the developers do not charge more than $50 a copy. Even if you are a commercial developer, I know from personal experience that RSA can be quite reasonable about licensing. They want this base level of technology adopted as widely as possible--just make RSA a reasonable offer and I think they'll take it. RIPEM and RIPEM/SIG are also beneficiaries of this new RSAREF license, which means that US companies can have privacy and authentication free of hassles from patent holders and export cops. MORE ON RIPEM/SIG - ----------------- The press release on RIPEM/SIG from Mark Riordan is at: ftp://ripem.msu.edu/pub/crypt/ripem/ripemsig/posting If you are a US or Canadian citizen, you can request an account for access to the full non-exportable RIPEM. Information on how to get access is at: ftp://guest.mu5k2d55:@ripem.msu.edu//pub/crypt/GETTING_ACCESS The binary files for the exportable RIPEM/SIG can be found in the directory: ftp://ripem.msu.edu/pub/crypt/ripem/ripemsig/binaries/ RSAREF/SIG Files available today are: ftp://ripem.msu.edu/pub/crypt/ripem/ripemsig/binaries/ ripemsig-68030-macintosh-commandline-1.2a.sit.hqx ftp://ripem.msu.edu/pub/crypt/ripem/ripemsig/binaries/ ripemsig-80x86-dos-vanilla-1.2a.exe ftp://ripem.msu.edu/pub/crypt/ripem/ripemsig/binaries/ ripemsig-hppa-hpux9.01-1.2a ftp://ripem.msu.edu/pub/crypt/ripem/ripemsig/binaries/ ripemsig-ibm-rs6000-aix3.2-1.2a ftp://ripem.msu.edu/pub/crypt/ripem/ripemsig/binaries/ ripemsig-sparc-sunos4.1.1-1.2a There does not seem to be separate documentation for RIPEM/SIG yet, so I guess you have to use the documentation for RIPEM 1.2a: ftp://ripem.msu.edu/pub/crypt/ripem/ripem.man ftp://ripem.msu.edu/pub/crypt/ripem/ripemusr.doc ftp://ripem.msu.edu/pub/crypt/ripem/ripemusr.txt A current list of RIPEM public keys is at: ftp://ripem.msu.edu/pub/crypt/ripem/pubkeys.txt There is an electronic-mail users group list PEM-DEV for discussions related to the development and deployment of Privacy Enhanced Mail (PEM) systems. Contributions to the list should be sent to ``pem-dev@tis.com''. Administrivia, e.g., additions to or deletions from the list should be sent to ``pem-dev-request@tis.com''. The Internet Multicasting Service is now beginning to stamp all of their text files with RSA/RIPEM digital signatures. You can find their public key through a finger request to town.hall.org. For examples of stamped files, look at: ftp://town.hall.org/edgar/docs/ MORE ON RSAREF 2.0 - ------------------ Remember, even though you can use RSAREF to create exportable, non-encryption based digital signature software, the source code to RSAREF is not exportable itself, as it can do encryption. It is only available to US and Canadian citizens. The press release on RSAREF from Jim Bidzos is at: ftp://rsa.com//pub/RIPEM_SIG_announce.txt Information on what RSAREF is all about and what are the license terms are located at: ftp://rsa.com/rsaref/info.reply ftp://rsa.com/rsaref/license.txt To get access to a time dependent directory (it changes every few minutes) you will need to read the document: ftp://rsa.com/rsaref/README If you agree to it's terms, take the directory mentioned there and substitute it for the checksum in the directory ``U.S.-only 7c04e6''. The compressed tar archive of RSAREF is at (remember to change the time dependent directory!): ftp://rsa.com/rsaref/dist/U.S.-only-7c04e6/rsaref.tar.Z The ZIP archive of RSAREF is at (remember to change the time dependent directory!): ftp://rsa.com/rsaref/dist/U.S.-only-7c04e6/rsaref.zip You can also get the RSAREF via email by reading the RSAREF license agreement and sending the following message to (If your electronic mail address is located in Canada, please also send RSA your full name and mailing address; they'll need it to complete a Department of State export declaration): I acknowledge that I have read the RSAREF Program License Agreement and understand and agree to be bound by its terms and conditions, including without limitation its restrictions on foreign reshipment of the Program and information related to the Program. The electronic mail address to which I am requesting that the program be transmitted is located in the United States of America or Canada and I am an United States citizen, a Canadian citizen, or a permanent resident of the United States. The RSAREF Program License Agreement is the complete and exclusive agreement between RSA Laboratories and me relating to the Program, and supersedes any proposal or prior agreement, oral or written, and any other communications between RSA Laboratories and me relating to the Program. RSA Laboratories maintains an electronic-mail users group for discussions on RSAREF applications, bug fixes, etc. To join the users group, send electronic mail to . AUTHOR'S BIOGRAPHY - ------------------ Christopher Allen is president of Consensus Development Corporation, a microcomputer software development & consulting firm specializing in groupware (defined as software to support collaboration and intentional group processes), including such related areas as hypertext, online documentation, document architecture, electronic publishing, group knowledge-base support tools, and creation and management of shared collaborative spaces. Christopher has been active in a number of other computer industry areas. He runs the Mac Developers Forum and Newton Development SIG on America Online, and a Mosaic/World-Wide-Web area on groupware and collaboration. Christopher has written for a number of industry books and publications, including MacWorld and the Macintosh Bible. He has been moderator and speaker at MacWorld Expo's and Mactivity's groupware sessions, and speaks as a panelist on the subject of Macintosh groupware at other industry conferences. He was chairman of MacHack '93, a conference for Macintosh programming gurus, is on the MacHack Planning Board, and is a senior associate at the Foresight Institute. COPYRIGHT NOTICE - ---------------- This article was written by Christopher Allen and is Copyright (c)1994 by Consensus Development Corporation--All Rights Reserved. This article, in whole or in part, may be used and shared in accordance the fair-use provisions of international copyright law: You may print or reproduce this article for non-commercial, personal, or educational purposes only, provided that the article is not modified, and that the copyright notice and this notice appear in all copies; You may quote, mention, cite, refer to, point, or describe this article in books, products, online services, or other media-- but you may not reproduce in whole or in part without permission. 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San Francisco, CA 94114-3615.. .. o415/647-6383 f415/647-6384.. ..Mosaic/World-Wide-Web Front Door: .. ..ftp://netcom7.netcom.com/pub/consensus/www/ConsensusFrontDoor.html .. -----END PRIVACY-ENHANCED MESSAGE----- Created with RIPEM Mac 0.8.5 b2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 15 11:56:13 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04923; Fri, 15 Apr 94 11:56:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05124; Fri, 15 Apr 94 11:42:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from LL.MIT.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05118; Fri, 15 Apr 94 11:42:39 -0700 Received: by ll.mit.edu (4.1/LL-1.3) id AA09992; Fri, 15 Apr 94 14:40:24 EDT Return-Path: Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 14:40:24 -0400 From: James Dryfoos Subject: Re: Wastebasket request To: Matt Messina Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <9404151440.AA24001@LL.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, Matt Messina wrote: > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 13:01:16 -0400 (EDT) > From: Matt Messina > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Wastebasket request > > On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, James Dryfoos wrote: > > I would like to request a configurable wastebasket option. > > It would be nice if it worked like sent-mail where it is moved into > > individual monthly folders and optionally deleted. > > Perhaps I don't understand your question, but couldn't you do this with > > read-message-folder=trash > feature-list=auto-move-read-msgs > > in .pinerc? It wouldn't do the monthly thing, but you could write a > short script to do that in your .login file. > -- > Matt Messina Vote YES on rec.arts.ascii > matt.messina@umich.edu CFV: coming soon to a n.a.newgroups near you > Yes, I had missed that feature. It will work fine, though the monthly bit would be nice :-) Thanks, -- Jim ========================================================================== James D. Dryfoos | dryfoos@ll.mit.edu MIT Lincoln Labs, Group 28 | 244 Wood Street, MailStop: C159 | (617) 981-2008 - office Lexington, MA 02173, Earth | (617) 981-0782 - fax ========================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 15 12:03:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05184; Fri, 15 Apr 94 12:03:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05185; Fri, 15 Apr 94 11:46:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from yacht.ee.fit.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05179; Fri, 15 Apr 94 11:45:59 -0700 Received: by ee.fit.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0/900117wah) id AA25751; Fri, 15 Apr 94 14:44:43 EDT Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 14:44:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Subject: Enhancement (audio) To: Pine List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a way to specify a default audio device like there is to specify a default image viewer? We often have people remotely logged in to other machines and it could be embarassing to go to read your mail message and then hear the sound of a toilet flushing on a computer in another room. (This happened to someone to whom I sent a message not too long ago. The person sitting at the other computer was quite surprised as well!) -= Chris =- [.Sig closed for repair] (ccurtis@ee.fit.edu) ... (cwcurtis@roo.fit.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 15 12:08:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05436; Fri, 15 Apr 94 12:08:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05243; Fri, 15 Apr 94 11:47:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from LL.MIT.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05237; Fri, 15 Apr 94 11:47:55 -0700 Received: by ll.mit.edu (4.1/LL-1.3) id AA10036; Fri, 15 Apr 94 14:43:41 EDT Return-Path: Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 14:43:42 -0400 From: James Dryfoos Subject: Re: Wastebasket request To: Matt Messina Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <9404151443.AA24133@LL.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, Matt Messina wrote: > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 13:01:16 -0400 (EDT) > From: Matt Messina > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Wastebasket request > > On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, James Dryfoos wrote: > > I would like to request a configurable wastebasket option. > > It would be nice if it worked like sent-mail where it is moved into > > individual monthly folders and optionally deleted. > > Perhaps I don't understand your question, but couldn't you do this with > > read-message-folder=trash > feature-list=auto-move-read-msgs > > in .pinerc? It wouldn't do the monthly thing, but you could write a > short script to do that in your .login file. > -- > Matt Messina Vote YES on rec.arts.ascii > matt.messina@umich.edu CFV: coming soon to a n.a.newgroups near you > I was wrong. I need a function equiv to auto-move-deleted-msgs to do what I want. I still need read messages to stay in inbox. Also, I only want deleted messages stored -- not ones I read and moved to another folder to save. -- Jim ========================================================================== James D. Dryfoos | dryfoos@ll.mit.edu MIT Lincoln Labs, Group 28 | 244 Wood Street, MailStop: C159 | (617) 981-2008 - office Lexington, MA 02173, Earth | (617) 981-0782 - fax ========================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 15 12:25:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06155; Fri, 15 Apr 94 12:25:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05645; Fri, 15 Apr 94 12:10:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05638; Fri, 15 Apr 94 12:10:21 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12382; Fri, 15 Apr 94 12:10:11 -0700 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 12:10:11 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Cc: Pine List Subject: Re: Enhancement (audio) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Chris, The next release of Pine will include support for the "mailcap" configuration file. This will allow you to configure just about any combination of "viewers"... Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, Christopher "AWOL" Curtis wrote: > Is there a way to specify a default audio device like there is to specify > a default image viewer? We often have people remotely logged in to other > machines and it could be embarassing to go to read your mail message and > then hear the sound of a toilet flushing on a computer in another room. > (This happened to someone to whom I sent a message not too long ago. The > person sitting at the other computer was quite surprised as well!) > > -= Chris =- > [.Sig closed for repair] > (ccurtis@ee.fit.edu) ... (cwcurtis@roo.fit.edu) > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 15 13:07:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07563; Fri, 15 Apr 94 13:07:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06335; Fri, 15 Apr 94 12:55:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from yacht.ee.fit.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06329; Fri, 15 Apr 94 12:55:03 -0700 Received: from schooner (schooner.ee.fit.edu) by ee.fit.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0/900117wah) id AA26138; Fri, 15 Apr 94 15:53:47 EDT Received: by schooner (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA10563; Fri, 15 Apr 94 15:53:56 EDT Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 15:53:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Subject: Enhancements To: Pine List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to see two things in the next version of PINE: *) A "fcc" entry in the address book. *) On the fly compression/decompression. I'd like the "fcc" entry because some mailing lists don't seem to always receive the letters to them and it would be nice to have a copy on hand. I don't want to "fcc" every message I send because disk space at this site is so limited. Again, because disk space is limited, it would be nice to see a way for pine to "gzip" its mail directories after reading them and to "gunzip" them when forming the index. Will a feature like this be supported in the mailcap entries? We'd like to create as few scripts as necessary. -= Chris =- [.Sig closed for repair] (ccurtis@ee.fit.edu) ... (cwcurtis@roo.fit.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 15 13:59:54 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08914; Fri, 15 Apr 94 13:59:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07246; Fri, 15 Apr 94 13:49:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from yacht.ee.fit.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07240; Fri, 15 Apr 94 13:49:00 -0700 Received: from schooner (schooner.ee.fit.edu) by ee.fit.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0/900117wah) id AA26664; Fri, 15 Apr 94 16:47:44 EDT Received: by schooner (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA10783; Fri, 15 Apr 94 16:47:53 EDT Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 16:47:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Subject: Default Mail Folders. To: Pine List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We have currently set up aliases for people who recieve large amounts of mail (as per the reasons stated previously ) and as a result have had to set the environment variable MAIL $HOME/.newmail This is suppposed (we were under the presumption) to be used by all mail readers, not just the system mail utilities. Apparently this is not so. Is there any way to have pine acknowledge this variable without having to specify it for each person. If not, what happens if we put incoming-folders=$MAIL in the .pinerc file and MAIL is not set? All help will be appreciated. -= Chris =- [.Sig closed for repair] (ccurtis@ee.fit.edu) ... (cwcurtis@roo.fit.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 15 14:08:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09274; Fri, 15 Apr 94 14:08:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03687; Fri, 15 Apr 94 13:56:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03679; Fri, 15 Apr 94 13:56:08 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14688; Fri, 15 Apr 94 13:56:02 -0700 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 13:56:01 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Cc: Pine List Subject: Re: Enhancements In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Chris, The next release of Pine won't have much of any change in the addressbook code, but there are some developments on the horizon that will probably cause a restructuring of the addressbook code. There are also some other Fcc related enhancements coming. A compressed folder mechanism is requested quite often, but it is not high on our priority list. We feel that it is more cost effective (for the University of Washington) to buy extra disks than to buy the extra CPUs it would take to handle the compression/uncompression. However, if someone would like to write a compressed folder driver, it shouldn't take more than a couple hundred lines of code (plus the zip/unzip code). Take a look at the file c-client/mbox.c for an example of a driver that could be used as a pattern. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, Christopher "AWOL" Curtis wrote: > I would like to see two things in the next version of PINE: > *) A "fcc" entry in the address book. > *) On the fly compression/decompression. > > I'd like the "fcc" entry because some mailing lists don't seem to always > receive the letters to them and it would be nice to have a copy on hand. > I don't want to "fcc" every message I send because disk space at this > site is so limited. > > Again, because disk space is limited, it would be nice to see a way for > pine to "gzip" its mail directories after reading them and to "gunzip" > them when forming the index. Will a feature like this be supported in > the mailcap entries? We'd like to create as few scripts as necessary. > > -= Chris =- > [.Sig closed for repair] > (ccurtis@ee.fit.edu) ... (cwcurtis@roo.fit.edu) > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 15 15:52:23 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12678; Fri, 15 Apr 94 15:52:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09103; Fri, 15 Apr 94 15:40:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from haas.Berkeley.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09097; Fri, 15 Apr 94 15:40:33 -0700 Received: by haas.berkeley.edu (5.65/Haas-1.34) id AA00442; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 15:40:32 -0700 From: philip@haas.berkeley.edu (Philip Enteles) Message-Id: <9404152240.AA00442@haas.berkeley.edu> Subject: Trouble with pico To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 15:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 632 I have a number of users who are having trouble with pico. All of these users only experience this problem when using a modem to connect to our DEC 5000/260 running Ultrix 4.3A. The problem is they cannot use the return key or the backspace key. This is only a problem in pico. vi and emacs as well as other programs function fine. Whenever they press return or backspace, pico beeps and says unknown command. This is pico 2.3 and 1.8. Any and all help would be appreciated, thanks. -- Philip Enteles Network Administrator philip@haas.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley 510-642-4436 "Oh...Mercy, Mercy me...." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 15 18:48:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18450; Fri, 15 Apr 94 18:48:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11462; Fri, 15 Apr 94 18:21:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from netcom7.netcom.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11456; Fri, 15 Apr 94 18:21:19 -0700 Received: from localhost by mail.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id SAA04105; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 18:22:26 -0700 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 18:22:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Ran Ever-Hadani Subject: Give Us Handles (PGP, folder compression) To: Pine mailing list In-Reply-To: <199404160016.RAA29426@mail.netcom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > There are some legal and political roadblocks to be passed before we would be > comfortable adding PGP support. Then don't give us PGP directly. Have configuration variables called, say, encrypt_cmd (for the user chosen encryption/verification program) get_my_key_cmd (called by pine to get the user's private key -- this can be bound to simply reading from a file or to uploading it from the user's PC in case of a dial-in session) and get_their_key_cmd (to get some other user's public key to verify their message or to encrypt messages sent to them -- this would probably get bound to a program that accesses a public key directory somewhere). Then add the commands Sign and Encrypt to the message composer, Verify and Decrypt to the message reader. These commands will be visible and activated only if the above variables are set, and they will use these variables to know what to do. And then it is the users' business what they binds their public key scheme to -- they can bind it to Clipper if they like :) The same approach can be taken as a temporary measure for folder compression (which for me is very important). Have three configuration variables: compress_cmd, uncompress_cmd and compressed_suffix (which for gzip will be .gz). The simplest initial implementation will be the following: in the folder menu, there will be the command Compress which will compress the folder. >From then on, the folder will be displayed in the folders' screen by its compressed file name (say large.gz), and when it is chosen for open it will be uncompressed. When such a folder is closed, the user will be prompted with "compress folder large (y/n/^C)?" to decide whether this folder is to be recompressed. The above should be quite easy to implement; at a later stage, it may be a good idea to actually incorporate gzip into pine, but this should not be a high priority IMO. -- Ran From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 15 23:06:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21135; Fri, 15 Apr 94 23:06:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09378; Fri, 15 Apr 94 22:51:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09370; Fri, 15 Apr 94 22:51:02 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23070; Fri, 15 Apr 94 22:50:59 -0700 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 22:50:58 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Ran Ever-Hadani Cc: Pine mailing list Subject: Re: Give Us Handles (PGP, folder compression) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ran, Techniques for using PGP with the current release of Pine have been discussed over the past few days. If you missed it, send me private mail and I will forward you a copy. As far as compression goes, by far the cleanest and easiest to implement solution is to write a c-client driver for a compressed mailbox format. As previously mentioned, we do not see a need for it on our systems, therefore it is very low on our priority list. --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, Ran Ever-Hadani wrote: > On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > There are some legal and political roadblocks to be passed before we would be > > comfortable adding PGP support. > > Then don't give us PGP directly. Have configuration variables called, > say, encrypt_cmd (for the user chosen encryption/verification program) > get_my_key_cmd (called by pine to get the user's private key -- this can > be bound to simply reading from a file or to uploading it from the user's > PC in case of a dial-in session) and get_their_key_cmd (to get some other > user's public key to verify their message or to encrypt messages sent to > them -- this would probably get bound to a program that accesses a public > key directory somewhere). Then add the commands Sign and Encrypt to the > message composer, Verify and Decrypt to the message reader. These > commands will be visible and activated only if the above variables are > set, and they will use these variables to know what to do. And then it is > the users' business what they binds their public key scheme to -- they can bind > it to Clipper if they like :) > > The same approach can be taken as a temporary measure for folder > compression (which for me is very important). Have three configuration > variables: compress_cmd, uncompress_cmd and compressed_suffix (which for > gzip will be .gz). > > The simplest initial implementation will be the following: in the folder > menu, there will be the command Compress which will compress the folder. > From then on, the folder will be displayed in the folders' screen by its > compressed file name (say large.gz), and when it is chosen for open it > will be uncompressed. When such a folder is closed, the user will be > prompted with "compress folder large (y/n/^C)?" to decide whether this > folder is to be recompressed. > > The above should be quite easy to implement; at a later stage, it may be a > good idea to actually incorporate gzip into pine, but this should not be > a high priority IMO. > > -- Ran From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 16 10:47:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28860; Sat, 16 Apr 94 10:47:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14363; Sat, 16 Apr 94 10:35:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mi.engin.umich.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14354; Sat, 16 Apr 94 10:35:44 -0700 Received: (messina@localhost) by mi.engin.umich.edu (8.6.8/8.6.4) id NAA18670; Sat, 16 Apr 1994 13:35:34 -0400 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 13:25:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Messina Subject: Re: Wastebasket request To: James Dryfoos Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <9404151443.AA24133@LL.MIT.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, James Dryfoos wrote: > On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, Matt Messina wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, James Dryfoos wrote: > > > I would like to request a configurable wastebasket option. > > > It would be nice if it worked like sent-mail where it is moved into > > > individual monthly folders and optionally deleted. > > > > Perhaps I don't understand your question, but couldn't you do this with > > > > read-message-folder=trash > > feature-list=auto-move-read-msgs > > > > in .pinerc? It wouldn't do the monthly thing, but you could write a > > short script to do that in your .login file. > I was wrong. I need a function equiv to auto-move-deleted-msgs > to do what I want. I still need read messages to stay in inbox. > Also, I only want deleted messages stored -- not ones I read and moved to > another folder to save. This doesn't seem possible for the current version of Pine. For now, the best thing to do, I think, would be to get in the habit of saving messages rather than deleting them. I think that this feature would require lots of new code, as, currently, Pine makes no distinction between messages which have been deleted because you saved them and messages which have just plain been deleted. -- Matt Messina Vote YES on rec.arts.ascii matt.messina@umich.edu CFV: coming soon to a n.a.newgroups near you From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 16 11:54:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29449; Sat, 16 Apr 94 11:54:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14814; Sat, 16 Apr 94 11:48:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from guava.wustl.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14808; Sat, 16 Apr 94 11:48:12 -0700 Received: by guava.wustl.edu (NX5.67c/NeXT-3.0-SLT/GHC) id AA22106; Sat, 16 Apr 94 13:48:29 -0500 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 13:48:25 -0500 (CDT) From: hussain Subject: two questions To: Pine List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does 3.89 support more than one postponed message? If not, how high is that on the priority list? I'm just wondering, it's nothing essential. Second, does ctrl-l (redraw the screen) force a check for new messages in the INBOX or is it still 3 down arrows, past the last INBOX message (as per thepine 3.85 tech docs?) Thanks! ps. pine's the best! everone here loves it! ____________________________________________________________________________ G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 314.935.4353 Washington University in St. Louis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 16 12:18:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29704; Sat, 16 Apr 94 12:18:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19302; Sat, 16 Apr 94 12:10:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19296; Sat, 16 Apr 94 12:10:39 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27188; Sat, 16 Apr 94 12:10:36 -0700 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 12:10:36 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: hussain Cc: Pine List Subject: Re: two questions In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hussain, Pine 3.89 only supports one postponed message, but Mike is currently working on the changes to support multiple postponed messages so they should make it into 3.90. Ctrl-L does force a check for new messages in Pine 3.89. --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 16 Apr 1994, hussain wrote: > > Does 3.89 support more than one postponed message? If not, how high is > that on the priority list? I'm just wondering, it's nothing essential. > > Second, does ctrl-l (redraw the screen) force a check for new messages in > the INBOX or is it still 3 down arrows, past the last INBOX message (as > per thepine 3.85 tech docs?) > > > Thanks! > > ps. pine's the best! everone here loves it! > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab > hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 > 314.935.4353 > Washington University in St. Louis > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 16 13:01:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00107; Sat, 16 Apr 94 13:01:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15230; Sat, 16 Apr 94 12:54:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mi.engin.umich.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15224; Sat, 16 Apr 94 12:54:27 -0700 Received: (messina@localhost) by mi.engin.umich.edu (8.6.8/8.6.4) id PAA19929; Sat, 16 Apr 1994 15:54:22 -0400 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 15:46:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Messina Subject: Re: two questions To: hussain Cc: Pine List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 16 Apr 1994, hussain wrote: > Does 3.89 support more than one postponed message? If not, how high is > that on the priority list? I'm just wondering, it's nothing essential. I do multiple postponed messages like this: 1) Make sure your .pinerc file has an entry like feature-list=enable-suspend or feature-list=old-growth 2) Postpone the 1st message. 3) Suspend Pine (^Z) 4) `cd ~/mail' (or your mail directory if you've changed it) 5) `mv postponed-mail p1' <-- if this is your second postponed message, p2, etc. 6) `fg' 7) Now you can postpone another message. 8) To restore a previously postponed message: a) Suspend Pine (^Z) b) `cd ~/mail' c) `mv p1 postponed-mail' d) `fg' It's not the most convienient method, but it works. -- Matt Messina Vote YES on rec.arts.ascii matt.messina@umich.edu CFV: coming soon to a n.a.newgroups near you From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 16 14:47:25 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01058; Sat, 16 Apr 94 14:47:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20299; Sat, 16 Apr 94 14:41:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from coyote.rain.org by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20293; Sat, 16 Apr 94 14:40:56 -0700 Received: by rain.org (4.1/25-eef) id AA07236; Sat, 16 Apr 94 14:38:53 PDT Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 14:38:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe McDonald Subject: show all folders with unread messages. To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a way in pine to show a list of all folders that have unread messages? Or a way to show only folders with messages? Thanks, -= Joe McDonald (joe@rain.org) =- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 17 08:32:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11842; Sun, 17 Apr 94 08:32:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22748; Sun, 17 Apr 94 08:19:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from emoryu1.cc.emory.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22742; Sun, 17 Apr 94 08:19:25 -0700 Received: from dooley.cc.emory.edu by emoryu1.cc.emory.edu (5.65/Emory_cc.3.4.16) via SMTP id AA16852 ; Sun, 17 Apr 94 11:19:23 -0400 Return-Path: labsha@emory.edu Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 11:19:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Absha III Subject: mail folder view by size To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I cab't recall if this has been mentioned before, but I would like to be able to list mail folders by size, not just by alpha. I know there have been requests for showing the number of messages of one type or another in a folder, but I'm wondering if 1) this capability will be added to pine, or 2) someone knows how to add that capability. thanx, shy P.S. Showing the number of messages in a folder would probably be roughly the same thing, but also harder to implement, I would guess. /----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------\ | Shyela Aberman, 404-712-2229 | INTERNET: labsha@emory.edu | | P.O. Box 21017, Emory University | BITNET: labsha@emoryu1 DEAD!DEAD!DEAD! | | Atlanta, Georgia 30322 | UUCP: {rutgers,gatech}!emoryu1!labsha | \----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 17 11:47:42 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13694; Sun, 17 Apr 94 11:47:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28819; Sun, 17 Apr 94 11:33:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from emoryu1.cc.emory.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28813; Sun, 17 Apr 94 11:33:22 -0700 Received: from dooley.cc.emory.edu by emoryu1.cc.emory.edu (5.65/Emory_cc.3.4.16) via SMTP id AA23816 ; Sun, 17 Apr 94 14:33:19 -0400 Return-Path: labsha@emory.edu Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 14:33:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Absha III Subject: wierd error message To: Pine-Info Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello- I've gotten the folloring error message, which is confusing the heck out of me: [502 You have no permission to talk. Goodbye.] I've searched the source code and the documentation, and I think this is coming from the system. Anmyone have any idea what this means? shy /----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------\ | Shyela Aberman, 404-712-2229 | INTERNET: labsha@emory.edu | | P.O. Box 21017, Emory University | BITNET: labsha@emoryu1 DEAD!DEAD!DEAD! | | Atlanta, Georgia 30322 | UUCP: {rutgers,gatech}!emoryu1!labsha | \----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 17 16:26:59 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17688; Sun, 17 Apr 94 16:26:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01594; Sun, 17 Apr 94 16:14:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01588; Sun, 17 Apr 94 16:14:15 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21331; Sun, 17 Apr 94 16:14:11 -0700 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 16:14:11 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Lawrence Absha III Cc: Pine-Info Mailing List Subject: Re: wierd error message In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Shy, This message is coming from an NNTP server that you do not have permission to use. Check setting of news-collections in your .pinerc file. --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 17 Apr 1994, Lawrence Absha III wrote: > > Hello- > I've gotten the folloring error message, which is confusing the heck out > of me: > [502 You have no permission to talk. Goodbye.] > > I've searched the source code and the documentation, and I think this is > coming from the system. Anmyone have any idea what this means? > > shy > > /----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------\ > | Shyela Aberman, 404-712-2229 | INTERNET: labsha@emory.edu | > | P.O. Box 21017, Emory University | BITNET: labsha@emoryu1 DEAD!DEAD!DEAD! | > | Atlanta, Georgia 30322 | UUCP: {rutgers,gatech}!emoryu1!labsha | > \----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------/ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 17 16:28:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17740; Sun, 17 Apr 94 16:28:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26344; Sun, 17 Apr 94 16:18:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26338; Sun, 17 Apr 94 16:18:21 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21356; Sun, 17 Apr 94 16:18:18 -0700 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 16:18:17 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Lawrence Absha III Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: mail folder view by size In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Lawrence, Unfortunately there is too much overhead in checking the size of remote folders to be practical. Showing the number of messages is actually easier to implement, since the primitives exist in IMAP/c-client to do this easily. It still entails a considerable amount of overhead though... Thanks for the suggestions! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 17 Apr 1994, Lawrence Absha III wrote: > > I cab't recall if this has been mentioned before, but I would like to be > able to list mail folders by size, not just by alpha. I know there have > been requests for showing the number of messages of one type or another in a > folder, but I'm wondering if 1) this capability will be added to pine, or > 2) someone knows how to add that capability. > > thanx, > shy > > P.S. Showing the number of messages in a folder would probably be roughly > the same thing, but also harder to implement, I would guess. > > /----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------\ > | Shyela Aberman, 404-712-2229 | INTERNET: labsha@emory.edu | > | P.O. Box 21017, Emory University | BITNET: labsha@emoryu1 DEAD!DEAD!DEAD! | > | Atlanta, Georgia 30322 | UUCP: {rutgers,gatech}!emoryu1!labsha | > \----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------/ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 17 16:57:05 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18058; Sun, 17 Apr 94 16:57:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01858; Sun, 17 Apr 94 16:44:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from yacht.ee.fit.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01852; Sun, 17 Apr 94 16:44:55 -0700 Received: by ee.fit.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0/900117wah) id AA12459; Sun, 17 Apr 94 19:43:27 EDT Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 19:43:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Subject: Pine defaults and sendmail (again) To: Pine List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I beleive I sent this message out once before but I have gotten no responses, so I am reposting. We have some users who subscribe to listservers and get lots of mail. We have aliased these people's incoming mail folders to their home directories and set the MAIL variable to point to that file. This variable is documented in the sendmail (mail/Mail) documentation, but apparently is ignored by PINE. What we currently have to do is for people who want to use PINE is to manually edit the .pinerc file to point to that file, which is an unneeded nuicance. Can PINE be written to use the MAIL variable or is it already? How do we implement such a system? Also, the other thing I forgot to mention is that MAIL isn't set for all users, just those with non-standard mailboxes so the mail program can find it. If we put incoming-messages=$MAIL in the .pinerc file when MAIL is undefined, will PINE still use the system mailbox? +=============================================================================+ | Christopher Curtis, Sun Lab System Administrator | | Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne Florida | | | | E-Mail/MIME/finger: ccurtis@ee.fit.edu | +=============================================================================+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 18 11:38:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09102; Mon, 18 Apr 94 11:38:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13265; Mon, 18 Apr 94 11:15:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13259; Mon, 18 Apr 94 11:15:49 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18080; Mon, 18 Apr 94 11:15:42 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 11:15:42 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Cc: Pine List Subject: Re: Pine defaults and sendmail (again) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Chris, Try setting "inbox-path=$MAIL" in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf. This should work as long as the file exists. If your MTA or other mail program deletes an empty INBOX, you will get an error you would not get with inbox-path blank, but other than that you should be OK. I haven't exhaustively checked that unset environment variables are handled properly by all systems, but they should just expand to NULL, which is fine for Pine... Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 17 Apr 1994, Christopher "AWOL" Curtis wrote: > I beleive I sent this message out once before but I have gotten no > responses, so I am reposting. > > We have some users who subscribe to listservers and get lots of mail. We > have aliased these people's incoming mail folders to their home > directories and set the MAIL variable to point to that file. This > variable is documented in the sendmail (mail/Mail) documentation, but > apparently is ignored by PINE. What we currently have to do is for > people who want to use PINE is to manually edit the .pinerc file to point > to that file, which is an unneeded nuicance. Can PINE be written to use > the MAIL variable or is it already? How do we implement such a system? > > Also, the other thing I forgot to mention is that MAIL isn't set for all > users, just those with non-standard mailboxes so the mail program can > find it. If we put incoming-messages=$MAIL in the .pinerc file when MAIL > is undefined, will PINE still use the system mailbox? > > +=============================================================================+ > | Christopher Curtis, Sun Lab System Administrator | > | Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne Florida | > | | > | E-Mail/MIME/finger: ccurtis@ee.fit.edu | > +=============================================================================+ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 18 11:38:59 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09153; Mon, 18 Apr 94 11:38:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13384; Mon, 18 Apr 94 11:23:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13378; Mon, 18 Apr 94 11:23:14 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18266; Mon, 18 Apr 94 11:23:13 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 11:23:13 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Joe McDonald Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: show all folders with unread messages. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Joe, Not yet, but we are starting to make some progress in that direction... --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 16 Apr 1994, Joe McDonald wrote: > Is there a way in pine to show a list of all folders that have unread > messages? Or a way to show only folders with messages? > > Thanks, > > > > -= Joe McDonald (joe@rain.org) =- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 18 12:09:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09936; Mon, 18 Apr 94 12:09:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13807; Mon, 18 Apr 94 11:48:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from nsipo.arc.nasa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13801; Mon, 18 Apr 94 11:48:16 -0700 Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov by nsipo.arc.nasa.gov (4.1/1.5) id AA05817; Mon, 18 Apr 94 11:48:14 PDT Received: by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (5.65/SunOS-4.1.3) id AA29639; Mon, 18 Apr 94 14:45:58 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 14:45:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael C. Newell" Reply-To: "Michael C. Newell" Subject: Another modest modification to Pine... To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII One thing that is a bit of a problem I've noticed is the "Send" key ("^X") is RIGHT NEXT to the "Cancel" key ("^C"). Some people (well, at least me!) get into the habit of typing fast, and sometimes miss a key.. Then you type "Y" automatically and *POOF* there goes your message... Perhaps using another key to initiate send might be nice?? Thanks, Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | reflect those of the NSI program, | |+1-202-434-8954 | NASA, my employer, or anyone else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 18 12:21:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10245; Mon, 18 Apr 94 12:21:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14164; Mon, 18 Apr 94 12:11:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from cari.telecom.uqam.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14154; Mon, 18 Apr 94 12:11:05 -0700 Received: from si.si.uqam.ca ([132.208.31.43]) by cari.telecom.uqam.ca (4.1/SMI-4.2.1.pop NIS) id AA10177; Mon, 18 Apr 94 15:11:00 EDT Received: from SI/SMTPMAIL by si.si.uqam.ca (Mercury 1.11); Mon, 18 Apr 94 15:11:00 -0500 Received: from SMTPMAIL by SI (Mercury 1.11); Mon, 18 Apr 94 15:10:38 -0500 From: "Helene Bouley" Organization: Universite du Quebec a Montreal To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 15:10:34 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: pine user's guide Reply-To: bouley.helene@uqam.ca X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Message-Id: <14FA86D5C03@si.si.uqam.ca> Is anyone can say me where I could find the pine user's guide? (not technical notes) thanks in advance, Helene Bouley Analyste Service a la clientele Universite du Quebec a Montreal Tel: 987-3124 Fax: 987-7098 E-mail: Bouley.helene@uqam.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 18 12:41:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11189; Mon, 18 Apr 94 12:41:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08923; Mon, 18 Apr 94 12:25:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from guava.wustl.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08917; Mon, 18 Apr 94 12:25:44 -0700 Received: by guava.wustl.edu (NX5.67c/NeXT-3.0-SLT/GHC) id AA00760; Mon, 18 Apr 94 14:26:05 -0500 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 14:26:03 -0500 (CDT) From: "g.h.chinoy" Subject: bubbling folders? To: David L Miller Cc: Pine Info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! I was wondering if there was any way to prioritize or restructure the list of folders in the Folder List so the folders appear in an order, alphebetically or otherwise. Can this be done through the .pinerc or /usr/local/lib/pine.conf? Hussain ____________________________________________________________________________ G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 314.935.4353 Washington University in St. Louis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 18 13:17:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13092; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:17:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09502; Mon, 18 Apr 94 12:53:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09486; Mon, 18 Apr 94 12:52:57 -0700 Received: by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11641; Mon, 18 Apr 94 12:50:55 -0700 Received: by ListDist v0.2 for /usr/local/lib/pine-announce.cf Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11632; Mon, 18 Apr 94 12:50:53 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09425; Mon, 18 Apr 94 12:50:51 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19610; Mon, 18 Apr 94 12:50:51 -0700 Reply-To: Arnt Gulbrandsen Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 12:50:49 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Pine Announcement Distribution Subject: Re: RFD: comp.mail.pine (suggested charter) (fwd) X-Owner: pine-announce-request@cac.washington.edu X-To: pine-announce@cac.washington.edu This message is being posted to the pine-announce mailing list for Arnt Gulbrandsen who is trying to organize a comp.mail.pine newsgroup. This is a followup to a previous posting to pine-info, comp.mail.misc, and news.groups. Please address followups to pine-info, one of the listed groups, or agulbra@nvg.unit.no. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Newsgroups: news.groups,comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.mime Subject: Re: RFD: comp.mail.pine (suggested charter) Date: 18 Apr 1994 21:23:18 +0200 Folloup-To: news.groups Well, there hasn't been much discussion. I don't want to say it too clearly, but, ah, the level of interest doesn't convince me that the group will carry. Here's a suggested charter, anyway. If you have any comments, please do it, and quickly. I've redirected followups into news.groups, if you don't want to read that group you can reply via mail to me. comp.mail.pine About the Pine mail user agent Charter: This group is for discussion about use and development of the Pine mail/news user agent developed by the University of Washington. Any Pine-related and Pine-specific discussion is acceptable, but general discussion regarding e.g. MIME or incoming-mail filters is referred to other, more appropriate newsgroups. The group will not be moderated. To be made moderated, the same voting procedures should be followed as for the creation of a new group at that time. The group will be bidirectionally gatewayed to the pine-info@cac.washington.edu mailing list. --Arnt From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 18 13:21:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13233; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:21:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09618; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:00:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09612; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:00:17 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19711; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:00:13 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 13:00:13 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Michael C. Newell" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Another modest modification to Pine... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This has been pointed out a few times, but unfortunately it is far too late to make that kind of fundamental change in the user interface. We already got burned pretty bad on what we thought was a pretty minor change for the prYnt command... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 18 Apr 1994, Michael C. Newell wrote: > One thing that is a bit of a problem I've noticed is the "Send" key ("^X") > is RIGHT NEXT to the "Cancel" key ("^C"). Some people (well, at least > me!) get into the habit of typing fast, and sometimes miss a key.. Then > you type "Y" automatically and *POOF* there goes your message... > > Perhaps using another key to initiate send might be nice?? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > > +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ > |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | > |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | > |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | reflect those of the NSI program, | > |+1-202-434-8954 | NASA, my employer, or anyone else. | > +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 18 13:22:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13272; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:22:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15070; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:03:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ursa.calvin.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15064; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:03:39 -0700 Received: by Calvin.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15320; Mon, 18 Apr 94 16:03:20 EDT Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 16:03:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Omi Chandiramani Subject: Re: Another modest modification to Pine... To: "Michael C. Newell" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 18 Apr 1994, Michael C. Newell wrote: > One thing that is a bit of a problem I've noticed is the "Send" key ("^X") > is RIGHT NEXT to the "Cancel" key ("^C"). Some people (well, at least > me!) get into the habit of typing fast, and sometimes miss a key.. Then > you type "Y" automatically and *POOF* there goes your message... > > Perhaps using another key to initiate send might be nice?? > I used to have the same problem a few months ago and then I just got used to pressing Return after pressing ^X. If I had successfully pressed X then the message would be sent, the default for Send being to send the message, and if i had pressed C by mistake I'd be back into compose mode, the default action for Cancel being NOT to cancel the message. Pico without ^X, would be like Emacs without ^X^C; it just wouldnt be the same again! Omi Chandiramani ochand70@calvin.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 18 13:28:29 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13399; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:28:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15357; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:09:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15351; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:09:49 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19956; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:09:44 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 13:09:43 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Michael C. Newell" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Another modest modification to Pine... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mike, That is another user-support nightmare we don't want to get any where near. If anything programmable definitions are even more of a support nightmare than a static change... Thanks for the followup! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 18 Apr 1994, Michael C. Newell wrote: > I figured as much... However, would it be possible (well, probable...) > to include programmable key definitions in some future release? That way > a user with exceedingly fat fingers (like me) could customize the > interface around things like this while leaving the vanilla interface alone. > > Thanks for a great product! > > Mike > > On Mon, 18 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > This has been pointed out a few times, but unfortunately it is far too > > late to make that kind of fundamental change in the user interface. We > > already got burned pretty bad on what we thought was a pretty minor > > change for the prYnt command... > > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > > > On Mon, 18 Apr 1994, Michael C. Newell wrote: > > > > > One thing that is a bit of a problem I've noticed is the "Send" key ("^X") > > > is RIGHT NEXT to the "Cancel" key ("^C"). Some people (well, at least > > > me!) get into the habit of typing fast, and sometimes miss a key.. Then > > > you type "Y" automatically and *POOF* there goes your message... > > > > > > Perhaps using another key to initiate send might be nice?? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ > > > |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | > > > |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | > > > |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | reflect those of the NSI program, | > > > |+1-202-434-8954 | NASA, my employer, or anyone else. | > > > +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ > > > > > > > > > > > +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ > |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | > |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | > |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | reflect those of the NSI program, | > |+1-202-434-8954 | NASA, my employer, or anyone else. | > +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 18 13:31:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13533; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:31:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15057; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:02:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from nsipo.arc.nasa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15043; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:02:45 -0700 Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov by nsipo.arc.nasa.gov (4.1/1.5) id AA07018; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:02:44 PDT Received: by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (5.65/SunOS-4.1.3) id AA29906; Mon, 18 Apr 94 16:00:27 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 16:00:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael C. Newell" Subject: Re: Another modest modification to Pine... To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I figured as much... However, would it be possible (well, probable...) to include programmable key definitions in some future release? That way a user with exceedingly fat fingers (like me) could customize the interface around things like this while leaving the vanilla interface alone. Thanks for a great product! Mike On Mon, 18 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > This has been pointed out a few times, but unfortunately it is far too > late to make that kind of fundamental change in the user interface. We > already got burned pretty bad on what we thought was a pretty minor > change for the prYnt command... > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Mon, 18 Apr 1994, Michael C. Newell wrote: > > > One thing that is a bit of a problem I've noticed is the "Send" key ("^X") > > is RIGHT NEXT to the "Cancel" key ("^C"). Some people (well, at least > > me!) get into the habit of typing fast, and sometimes miss a key.. Then > > you type "Y" automatically and *POOF* there goes your message... > > > > Perhaps using another key to initiate send might be nice?? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mike > > > > > > +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ > > |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | > > |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | > > |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | reflect those of the NSI program, | > > |+1-202-434-8954 | NASA, my employer, or anyone else. | > > +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ > > > > > +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | reflect those of the NSI program, | |+1-202-434-8954 | NASA, my employer, or anyone else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 18 13:36:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13771; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:36:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10159; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:21:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uafhp.uark.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10153; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:21:19 -0700 Received: from comp.uark.edu by uafhp.uark.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/15.6) id AA26956; Mon, 18 Apr 94 15:14:08 -0500 Received: by (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA04242; Mon, 18 Apr 94 15:14:06 CDT Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 15:14:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Gene Trantham Subject: Re: Another modest modification to Pine... To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: "Michael C. Newell" In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 908 On Mon, 18 Apr 1994, Michael C. Newell wrote: > One thing that is a bit of a problem I've noticed is the "Send" key ("^X") > is RIGHT NEXT to the "Cancel" key ("^C"). > Perhaps using another key to initiate send might be nice?? > Like, maybe, ^S (S for "send")? Be careful when you start mucking about with key bindings like that. We had a problem on our campus with new unix (and pine) users hitting ^S, and subsequently complaining that their sessions just "locked up". ^S, you may recall, is normally the XOFF character, which is _SUPPOSED_ to "lock up" the terminal. And ^Q is bound to XON....... Most of the rest of the function keys already have bindings within pine. What would you suggest they move it to? Or perhaps you should consider starting pine with the switch (I forget which one it is) that maps essential functions to F keys. -- Gene Trantham University of Arkansas From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 18 13:53:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14382; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:53:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15676; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:28:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15670; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:28:10 -0700 Received: from [165.113.252.2] by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00145; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:28:08 -0700 Received: by ecf.puc.edu (5.61/1.35) id AA24067; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:31:02 -0700 From: manager@puc.edu (Jon Falconer) Message-Id: <9404182031.AA24067@ecf.puc.edu> Subject: pine on Sequent Balance 8000 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 13:31:00 -0700 (MDT) Cc: manager@puc.edu (Jon Falconer) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 217 Has anyone made pine 3.89 work on a Sequent Balance 8000 system? If so I would like to know what changes were necessary. I am running Dynix 3.1.4 (not Dynix/ptx) which is a BSD4.3 flavor of UNIX. Thanks Jon Falconer From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 18 14:41:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16125; Mon, 18 Apr 94 14:41:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10967; Mon, 18 Apr 94 14:08:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uafhp.uark.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10961; Mon, 18 Apr 94 14:08:17 -0700 Received: from comp.uark.edu by uafhp.uark.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/15.6) id AA27686; Mon, 18 Apr 94 16:08:45 -0500 Received: by (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA13796; Mon, 18 Apr 94 16:08:43 CDT Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 16:08:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Richard Lee Subject: Re: Another modest modification to Pine... To: "Michael C. Newell" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 957 On Mon, 18 Apr 1994, Michael C. Newell wrote: > One thing that is a bit of a problem I've noticed is the "Send" key ("^X") > is RIGHT NEXT to the "Cancel" key ("^C"). Some people (well, at least > me!) get into the habit of typing fast, and sometimes miss a key.. Then > you type "Y" automatically and *POOF* there goes your message... > > Perhaps using another key to initiate send might be nice?? Oh, let's not change those keystrokes too often. Now people are used to ^X as send. If they change it now, that will confuse everyone else and we'll have to get used to something else (e,g, ^S, which will lock up some folks' keyboards, or ^O (for get that *O*ut of here), which some people will think should postpone the message) etc. -- Dr. Richard Lee rlee@comp.uark.edu Department of Philosophy Old Main 318 rlee@uafsysb.BITNET University of Arkansas phone: 501-575-5826 Fayetteville, AR 72701 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 18 14:51:34 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16505; Mon, 18 Apr 94 14:51:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16924; Mon, 18 Apr 94 14:36:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from optima.CS.Arizona.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16918; Mon, 18 Apr 94 14:36:12 -0700 Received: from caslon.CS.Arizona.EDU by optima.CS.Arizona.EDU (5.65c/15) via SMTP id AA29060; Mon, 18 Apr 1994 14:36:10 MST Received: (jdavis@localhost) by caslon.CS.Arizona.EDU (8.6.7/8.6.4) id OAA27606; Mon, 18 Apr 1994 14:36:08 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 14:36:06 -0700 (MST) From: Jim Davis Subject: Re: pine on Sequent Balance 8000 To: Jon Falconer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <9404182031.AA24067@ecf.puc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 18 Apr 1994, Jon Falconer wrote: > Has anyone made pine 3.89 work on a Sequent Balance 8000 system? If so I > would like to know what changes were necessary. I am running Dynix 3.1.4 > (not Dynix/ptx) which is a BSD4.3 flavor of UNIX. I got it going on a S81 running Dynix 3.2.0; it was pretty straightforward. If you'd like I could send you the diffs. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 18 15:30:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17695; Mon, 18 Apr 94 15:30:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17548; Mon, 18 Apr 94 15:13:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17542; Mon, 18 Apr 94 15:13:06 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21547; Mon, 18 Apr 94 15:12:54 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 15:12:53 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "g.h.chinoy" Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: bubbling folders? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There is no way to change the ordering, except in the incoming-folders collection which follows the order in the .pinerc entry (oops, that's what 3.90 will do, sorry ;) |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 18 Apr 1994, g.h.chinoy wrote: > Hi! > I was wondering if there was any way to prioritize or restructure > the list of folders in the Folder List so the folders appear in an order, > alphebetically or otherwise. > Can this be done through the .pinerc or /usr/local/lib/pine.conf? > > Hussain > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab > hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 > 314.935.4353 > Washington University in St. Louis > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 18 15:43:27 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18331; Mon, 18 Apr 94 15:43:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12262; Mon, 18 Apr 94 15:28:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12256; Mon, 18 Apr 94 15:28:11 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21871; Mon, 18 Apr 94 15:27:49 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 15:27:48 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Helene Bouley Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine user's guide In-Reply-To: <14FA86D5C03@si.si.uqam.ca> Message-Id: Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine (proto-3.90) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Helene, There is not currently an official "Pine user's guide." About the closest thing we have at this time is the online help. There is a pretty good chapter on Pine in the "Instant Internet" book, and our documentation group is working on a "getting started with Pine" pamplet, but I don't think it is quite done yet. There are also some tutorials done by other sites, but we don't have anything current from them... --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 18 Apr 1994, Helene Bouley wrote: > > Is anyone can say me where I could find the pine user's guide? (not > technical notes) > > thanks in advance, > > > > > Helene Bouley > Analyste > Service a la clientele > Universite du Quebec a Montreal > Tel: 987-3124 > Fax: 987-7098 > E-mail: Bouley.helene@uqam.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 18 16:11:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19382; Mon, 18 Apr 94 16:11:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18470; Mon, 18 Apr 94 15:56:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18462; Mon, 18 Apr 94 15:56:57 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22396; Mon, 18 Apr 94 15:56:54 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 15:56:54 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Philip Enteles Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Trouble with pico In-Reply-To: <9404152240.AA00442@haas.berkeley.edu> Message-Id: Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine (proto-3.90) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Philip, What command does it say is unknown? It should be listed in the error message. --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, Philip Enteles wrote: > > I have a number of users who are having trouble with pico. All of these > users only experience this problem when using a modem to connect to our > DEC 5000/260 running Ultrix 4.3A. The problem is they cannot use the > return key or the backspace key. This is only a problem in pico. vi and > emacs as well as other programs function fine. Whenever they press > return or backspace, pico beeps and says unknown command. This is pico > 2.3 and 1.8. Any and all help would be appreciated, thanks. > > -- > Philip Enteles Network Administrator > philip@haas.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley > 510-642-4436 "Oh...Mercy, Mercy me...." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 18 16:40:37 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20581; Mon, 18 Apr 94 16:40:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19006; Mon, 18 Apr 94 16:28:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19000; Mon, 18 Apr 94 16:28:24 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22930; Mon, 18 Apr 94 16:28:18 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 16:28:18 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Ian Dunkin Cc: Pine mailing list Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine (proto-3.90) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, it's a start. Unfortunately it appears to only be available for export in binary form on a few platforms. Where does that leave our users of Convex, Linux and 25 or so other platforms that binaries are not available for? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, Ian Dunkin wrote: > > On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > There are some legal and political roadblocks to be passed before we would be > > comfortable adding PGP support. > > Might RSA's recent announcement (below) that their RIPEM/SIG digital > signature software is now free and exportable come in somewhere here, in > the area of support for such signatures in Pine? I gather this is > possible because they got a "commodities jurisdiction" ruling that the > software falls under the Commerce Department's jurisdiction as opposed > to the State Department and thus allows it to be freely and legally > exported. > > ?I. > > -- > Ian Dunkin > -- > > o / > -----------------------------x------------------------------------------ > O \ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 18 16:57:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21199; Mon, 18 Apr 94 16:57:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13623; Mon, 18 Apr 94 16:42:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13617; Mon, 18 Apr 94 16:42:40 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23251; Mon, 18 Apr 94 16:41:55 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 16:41:54 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: charlieb@budge.apana.org.au Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Bug: save to a file named * In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine (proto-3.90) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Charlie, There are some definite inconsistencies in what folder names are allowed currently. Thanks for the report! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 14 Apr 1994 charlieb@budge.apana.org.au wrote: > > On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, Joe Brennan wrote: > > > > I see the save command (when viewing a message) lets me save to a file > > named *. One of our users did this by accident, and decided to fix it > > afterwards by doing rm mail/*, and even though we have rm aliased to > > rm -i, he told it OK to do it. > > > > * is an unlikely filename to want; some other special characters would > > also be "fun" for novices to handle in filenames. Do you all feel like > > imposing a character test for file creation? > > ^R wouldn't let me type in "/mnt/a:" - it baulked at the ":". That's a bug. > > Charlie Brady * (W) charlieb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au * (H) charlieb@budge.apana.org.au > "Make it as simple as possible - | Tel: (02) 413 6838 ____Telectronics__| /\__ > but no simpler" Einstein, A | Fax: (02) 413 6868 Pacing Systems \/ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 18 17:08:34 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22070; Mon, 18 Apr 94 17:08:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19164; Mon, 18 Apr 94 16:39:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19156; Mon, 18 Apr 94 16:39:42 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23179; Mon, 18 Apr 94 16:39:37 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 16:39:37 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Matt Messina Cc: Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: KBLock problem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine (proto-3.90) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Matt, Thanks for the report! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, Matt Messina wrote: > I'm new to this list, so I hope I not bringing up topics you've all seen > a hundred times. There's got to be a way to trap the Quit signal. KBLock > is useless if it will defer to Quit. I would consider losing the ability > to "Emergency Exit" while the keyboard is locked a small price compared > to having a insecure keyboard lock command that some might consider > secure. As Phil Zimmerman said in the PGP Documentation, wrongly used > encryption is often less privacy protecting than not using encryption at > all (actually, when he said it, it was good English, but you get the > idea). The same goes for the KBLock command. > -- > Matt Messina Vote YES on rec.arts.ascii > matt.messina@umich.edu CFV: coming soon to a n.a.newgroups near you > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 18 20:37:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25505; Mon, 18 Apr 94 20:37:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21838; Mon, 18 Apr 94 20:27:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from recycle.snre.umich.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21832; Mon, 18 Apr 94 20:27:19 -0700 Received: from localhost by snre.umich.edu (8.6.4/2.2) id VAA28181; Mon, 18 Apr 1994 21:38:05 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 21:38:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Tang Subject: Re: pine user's guide To: David L Miller Cc: Helene Bouley , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 18 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > There is not currently an official "Pine user's guide." About the closest > thing we have at this time is the online help. There is a pretty good > chapter on Pine in the "Instant Internet" book, and our documentation group > is working on a "getting started with Pine" pamplet, but I don't think it is > quite done yet. There are also some tutorials done by other sites, but > we don't have anything current from them... > > --DLM Hi folks. I've been a little hesitant about publicizing this, but I have a set of pine docs that's being tossed around U-Mich. It's a beginner's guide to Pine. Although it does have some things that are specifically meant for my school (UM school of Natural Resources and Environment), I could remove them and distribute a PS version. Mind you it's not as comprehensive as the Pine online help, but from experience, i've found that it does cover about 90% of my users' questions. It was spawned out of a need for some "quickie" pine docs. I originally intended to have it be 1 page both sides, but I quickly found that writing docs takes longer than I thought. After about 2 weeks, It's final form ended up being 10 pages, and now it's 13. It's written for the computer novice. I tried to stay away from using technical language. For anyone who's been using pine for more than a month, it'll be mostly review. Nevertheless, I've had to move 40 or so people over to pine since February, and this doc has worked so far. I've had people at the U say that they worked for their departments too. I'm working on the latest revision (touching up some of the new stuff I wrote yesterday), But if you send me email (altitude@umich.edu) , I can forward off a PS file pretty soon (couple of days). I'd do it sooner, but I got finals this week... UUGH. :( Oh yeah, There's a plain text version on gopher.snre.umich.edu (in the "SNRE Computer Documentation") section. And on: http://www.snre.umich.edu/snre/pine.intro.html NOTE, both of these are the old versions. I'd ask that you don't print a copy because i'm working on a new set. (but that's just a request). Have fun. ...alex... Alex Tang --- ALTITUDE@UMICH.EDU...USERW00Y@UMICHUM.BITNET -----------+ UM-SNRE: Student, Computer Consultant III, & SysAdmin PGP on req.| ITD/CSS Consultant, Short asian with long hair :) or via fing| WWW -> http://www.snre.umich.edu/users/altitude/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 19 05:20:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02517; Tue, 19 Apr 94 05:20:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19509; Tue, 19 Apr 94 04:58:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from acad.csv.kutztown.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19503; Tue, 19 Apr 94 04:58:37 -0700 Received: by acad.csv.kutztown.edu (5.65/1.35) id AA15795; Tue, 19 Apr 94 07:59:40 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 07:59:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lisa M. Frye" Subject: Re: pine on Sequent Balance 8000 To: Jon Falconer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Jon Falconer In-Reply-To: <9404182031.AA24067@ecf.puc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Jon, I had pine3.89 running on a Sequent Balance machine running Dynix 3.0.12. However, I have since upgraded to PTX and do not recall all the changes I had to make. But, you are not fighting a winless battle - it is possible. Lisa Frye frye@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Network Software Specialist LMS Annex Room 105 Kutztown University phone: 610-683-4474 Kutztown, PA. 19530 fax: 610-683-4634 "You can bring a person to the university, but you can't make him think." On Mon, 18 Apr 1994, Jon Falconer wrote: > Has anyone made pine 3.89 work on a Sequent Balance 8000 system? If so I > would like to know what changes were necessary. I am running Dynix 3.1.4 > (not Dynix/ptx) which is a BSD4.3 flavor of UNIX. > > Thanks > Jon Falconer > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 19 05:28:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02583; Tue, 19 Apr 94 05:28:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25855; Tue, 19 Apr 94 05:14:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from isumataq.eskimo.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25849; Tue, 19 Apr 94 05:14:16 -0700 Received: by isumataq.eskimo.com (5.65c/1.35) id AA01844; Tue, 19 Apr 1994 05:13:56 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 05:13:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Putnam Barber Subject: Programmable interface To: PINE mailing list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I can see no problem with allowing +users+ to reprogram keys. The problem would be with administrators doing so, since users on the affected systems would need to be quite sophisticated before they would be able to discern the character of the change and thus at the mercy of bad documentation, inappropriate changes, etc. etc. I spoze its impossible to imagine a keyboard mapping routine that was offlimits to system operators and available to individual accounts. Violates a basic law of nature or something. Maybe such a beast is available in unix in some form that could be used as an interface between the keyboard and pine. I type ^S (for send), the "black box" hears ^S and is set up to transmit ^X, pine "hears" ^X. (And of course ^S doesn't do whatever ^S is supposed to do when pine is running -- suspend I/O? -- and that function isn't available to me unless I have remapped some other key into that function.) Many wordprocessors have facilities like this built in. If there were a way of doing it for unix operations, I would map the keyboard to be more like WordPerfect because that's what I use all the time when off-line; in particular the PageUp PageDown Home and End keys. But I don't think this facility should be pine-specific. I should just be possible to use it with pine (and other useful programs) if available. .02 Putnam Barber Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 19 06:59:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03654; Tue, 19 Apr 94 06:59:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20326; Tue, 19 Apr 94 06:43:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [198.175.190.1] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20320; Tue, 19 Apr 94 06:43:08 -0700 From: fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us Received: by bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA71924; Tue, 19 Apr 1994 08:36:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 08:36:08 -0500 (CDT) Subject: To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 19 07:11:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03848; Tue, 19 Apr 94 07:11:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26501; Tue, 19 Apr 94 06:36:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from LL.MIT.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26495; Tue, 19 Apr 94 06:36:50 -0700 Received: by ll.mit.edu (4.1/LL-1.3) id AA18107; Tue, 19 Apr 94 09:34:22 EDT Return-Path: Date: Tue, 19 Apr 94 09:34:21 -0400 From: James Dryfoos Subject: Re: Wastebasket request To: Matt Messina Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <9404190934.AA11117@LL.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 16 Apr 1994, Matt Messina wrote: > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 13:25:55 -0400 (EDT) > From: Matt Messina > To: James Dryfoos > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Wastebasket request > > On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, James Dryfoos wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, Matt Messina wrote: > > > On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, James Dryfoos wrote: > > > > I would like to request a configurable wastebasket option. > > > > It would be nice if it worked like sent-mail where it is moved into > > > > individual monthly folders and optionally deleted. > > > > > > Perhaps I don't understand your question, but couldn't you do this with > > > > > > read-message-folder=trash > > > feature-list=auto-move-read-msgs > > > > > > in .pinerc? It wouldn't do the monthly thing, but you could write a > > > short script to do that in your .login file. > > > I was wrong. I need a function equiv to auto-move-deleted-msgs > > to do what I want. I still need read messages to stay in inbox. > > Also, I only want deleted messages stored -- not ones I read and moved to > > another folder to save. > > This doesn't seem possible for the current version of Pine. For now, > the best thing to do, I think, would be to get in the habit of saving > messages rather than deleting them. I think that this feature would > require lots of new code, as, currently, Pine makes no distinction > between messages which have been deleted because you saved them and > messages which have just plain been deleted. > -- > Matt Messina Vote YES on rec.arts.ascii > matt.messina@umich.edu CFV: coming soon to a n.a.newgroups near you > Good point. Perhaps what would be useful here is a moved (or saved) flag. Instead of morking messages that were saved into another folder as deleted, perhaps they can be marked as moved (which would still mean deleted from this folder). -- Jim ========================================================================== James D. Dryfoos | dryfoos@ll.mit.edu MIT Lincoln Labs, Group 28 | 244 Wood Street, MailStop: C159 | (617) 981-2008 - office Lexington, MA 02173, Earth | (617) 981-0782 - fax ========================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 19 07:41:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04356; Tue, 19 Apr 94 07:41:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26823; Tue, 19 Apr 94 07:15:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26817; Tue, 19 Apr 94 07:15:39 -0700 Received: from ester.dsv.su.se by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10361; Tue, 19 Apr 94 07:15:38 -0700 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SUNET/ADMD=_/C=SE/; Relayed; 19 Apr 94 16:02:59+0200 Date: 19 Apr 94 16:02:59+0200 From: fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us Message-Id: <653497*@su-kom.dsv.su.se> To: "Pine mailer discussions group (pine-infoEcac.washington.edu)" , pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 19 07:44:47 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04418; Tue, 19 Apr 94 07:44:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26868; Tue, 19 Apr 94 07:20:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26862; Tue, 19 Apr 94 07:20:46 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA10583; Tue, 19 Apr 94 10:20:47 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA10612; Tue, 19 Apr 94 10:21:04 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 10:21:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: Question about my signature To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Having used, to date, mailers and posters that put my sig after everything, even the copy of the mailer I am replying to, I am very used to that as my mail format. I don't really like the feel of having my sig seperate my note from the copy to which I am replying. Is there any way to put a line in my .pinerc to tell pine that I want it to stick my sig _after_everything_ rather than seperating my note from the reply copy? Also, is there a way to set my word wrap so that it doesn't wrap so quickly. When I use vi, I use the command "set wm=1" so that I can use as much of the page as possible. That's just me. But, I would like to know how to tell pine that I want to wrap on the last character, and not before that. Can anyone fill me in? Thanks... **************************************************************************** ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 19 07:53:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04630; Tue, 19 Apr 94 07:53:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26988; Tue, 19 Apr 94 07:32:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [198.175.190.1] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26982; Tue, 19 Apr 94 07:32:01 -0700 From: fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us Received: by bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA80011; Tue, 19 Apr 1994 09:24:55 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 09:24:54 -0500 (CDT) Subject: unsubscribe fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 19 08:37:58 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05877; Tue, 19 Apr 94 08:37:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27521; Tue, 19 Apr 94 08:11:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from stein.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27515; Tue, 19 Apr 94 08:11:30 -0700 Received: by stein1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12342; Tue, 19 Apr 94 08:11:22 -0700 X-Sender: absweger@stein1.u.washington.edu Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 08:11:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew B. Sweger" Subject: Re: Question about my signature To: Bruce Mahfood Cc: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 19 Apr 1994, Bruce Mahfood wrote: > Having used, to date, mailers and posters that put my sig after everything, [bandwidth reduction act of 1994 implemented] Add signature-at-bottom to the feature-list in your .pinerc. > Also, is there a way to set my word wrap so that it doesn't wrap so quickly. [bandwidth reduction act of 1994 implemented] Don't know. > **************************************************************************** > ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! > **************************************************************************** -- / Andrew B. Sweger absweger@u.washington.edu // Computer Support Manager csg@fammed.washington.edu \\ Department of Family Medicine, HQ-30 (206) 543-2461 (Office) // UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON (206) 685-4337 (Voice Mail) / Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 685-0610 (FAX) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 19 14:23:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19065; Tue, 19 Apr 94 14:23:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04218; Tue, 19 Apr 94 13:57:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rye.city.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04212; Tue, 19 Apr 94 13:57:31 -0700 Received: from brighton.city.ac.uk by Rye.city.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <10093-0@Rye.city.ac.uk>; Tue, 19 Apr 1994 17:32:10 +0100 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 17:36:22 +0100 (BST) From: "Norman R. McBride" Subject: Re: Wastebasket request To: James Dryfoos Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <9404190934.AA11117@LL.MIT.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Morking files ? Shazbat... I think this is starting to get a teensy bit ridiculous. Perhaps it would be neater to implement saving in another folder as a move (ie. it disappears from the INBOX or whatever immediately) and have a function that works on messages marked as deleted. N. Norman R McBride, Computer Support (+44) 71 477 8187 -=- N.R.McBride@city.ac.uk F1419, City University Business School, Frobisher Crescent, London EC2Y 8HB. On Tue, 19 Apr 1994, James Dryfoos wrote: > On Sat, 16 Apr 1994, Matt Messina wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 13:25:55 -0400 (EDT) > > From: Matt Messina > > To: James Dryfoos > > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > Subject: Re: Wastebasket request > > > > On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, James Dryfoos wrote: > > > On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, Matt Messina wrote: > > > > On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, James Dryfoos wrote: > > > > > I would like to request a configurable wastebasket option. > > > > > It would be nice if it worked like sent-mail where it is moved into > > > > > individual monthly folders and optionally deleted. > > > > > > > > Perhaps I don't understand your question, but couldn't you do this with > > > > > > > > read-message-folder=trash > > > > feature-list=auto-move-read-msgs > > > > > > > > in .pinerc? It wouldn't do the monthly thing, but you could write a > > > > short script to do that in your .login file. > > > > > I was wrong. I need a function equiv to auto-move-deleted-msgs > > > to do what I want. I still need read messages to stay in inbox. > > > Also, I only want deleted messages stored -- not ones I read and moved to > > > another folder to save. > > > > This doesn't seem possible for the current version of Pine. For now, > > the best thing to do, I think, would be to get in the habit of saving > > messages rather than deleting them. I think that this feature would > > require lots of new code, as, currently, Pine makes no distinction > > between messages which have been deleted because you saved them and > > messages which have just plain been deleted. > > -- > > Matt Messina Vote YES on rec.arts.ascii > > matt.messina@umich.edu CFV: coming soon to a n.a.newgroups near you > > > > Good point. Perhaps what would be useful here is a moved (or saved) > flag. Instead of morking messages that were saved into another folder as > deleted, perhaps they can be marked as moved (which would still mean > deleted from this folder). > > -- Jim > > > ========================================================================== > James D. Dryfoos | dryfoos@ll.mit.edu > MIT Lincoln Labs, Group 28 | > 244 Wood Street, MailStop: C159 | (617) 981-2008 - office > Lexington, MA 02173, Earth | (617) 981-0782 - fax > ========================================================================== > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 19 15:04:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20483; Tue, 19 Apr 94 15:04:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28210; Tue, 19 Apr 94 14:49:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from isumataq.eskimo.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28204; Tue, 19 Apr 94 14:49:51 -0700 Received: by isumataq.eskimo.com (5.65c/1.35) id AA20488; Tue, 19 Apr 1994 14:49:32 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 14:49:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Erik C. Thauvin" Subject: "Reply-To:" in Pine 3.89 (SunOS 4.1.3) To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is anybody aware of a way to manually/automatically set the mail header's "Reply-To:" field in pine? Thanks, E. -- Erik C. Thauvin | Custom Software Solutions | Raven Systems Limited ravensys@eskimo.com | For Everyday Problems. | P.O. Box 560894 +1 (206) 747-9819 | | Orlando, FL 32856, USA URL= file://eskimo.com/ravensys/www/raven.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 19 15:44:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22088; Tue, 19 Apr 94 15:44:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05899; Tue, 19 Apr 94 15:31:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05893; Tue, 19 Apr 94 15:31:54 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09683; Tue, 19 Apr 94 15:31:47 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 15:31:46 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Erik C. Thauvin" Cc: Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: "Reply-To:" in Pine 3.89 (SunOS 4.1.3) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine (proto-3.90) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To is not supported in Pine 3.89 but will be in Pine 3.90. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 19 Apr 1994, Erik C. Thauvin wrote: > Is anybody aware of a way to manually/automatically set the mail header's > "Reply-To:" field in pine? > > Thanks, > > E. > > > -- > Erik C. Thauvin | Custom Software Solutions | Raven Systems Limited > ravensys@eskimo.com | For Everyday Problems. | P.O. Box 560894 > +1 (206) 747-9819 | | Orlando, FL 32856, USA > URL= file://eskimo.com/ravensys/www/raven.html > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 19 15:46:13 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22163; Tue, 19 Apr 94 15:46:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05964; Tue, 19 Apr 94 15:35:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from isumataq.eskimo.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05958; Tue, 19 Apr 94 15:35:22 -0700 Received: by isumataq.eskimo.com (5.65c/1.35) id AA21682; Tue, 19 Apr 1994 15:34:58 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 15:34:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "Erik C. Thauvin" Subject: Re: "Reply-To:" in Pine 3.89 (SunOS 4.1.3) To: David L Miller Cc: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII David, When do you expect to have 3.90 ready for public consumption? Thanks, E. -- Erik C. Thauvin | Custom Software Solutions | Raven Systems Limited ravensys@eskimo.com | For Everyday Problems. | P.O. Box 560894 +1 (206) 747-9819 | | Orlando, FL 32856, USA URL= file://eskimo.com/ravensys/www/raven.html On Tue, 19 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > Reply-To is not supported in Pine 3.89 but will be in Pine 3.90. > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Tue, 19 Apr 1994, Erik C. Thauvin wrote: > > > Is anybody aware of a way to manually/automatically set the mail header's > > "Reply-To:" field in pine? > > > > Thanks, > > > > E. > > > > > > -- > > Erik C. Thauvin | Custom Software Solutions | Raven Systems Limited > > ravensys@eskimo.com | For Everyday Problems. | P.O. Box 560894 > > +1 (206) 747-9819 | | Orlando, FL 32856, USA > > URL= file://eskimo.com/ravensys/www/raven.html > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 19 16:49:22 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24364; Tue, 19 Apr 94 16:49:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06913; Tue, 19 Apr 94 16:33:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from yacht.ee.fit.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06905; Tue, 19 Apr 94 16:33:48 -0700 Received: from schooner (schooner.ee.fit.edu) by ee.fit.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0/900117wah) id AA12863; Tue, 19 Apr 94 19:32:07 EDT Received: by schooner (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA05226; Tue, 19 Apr 94 19:32:38 EDT Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 19:32:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Subject: Re: Question about my signature Cc: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 19 Apr 1994, Bruce Mahfood wrote: > Having used, to date, mailers and posters that put my sig after everything, > even the copy of the mailer I am replying to, I am very used to that as my > mail format. I don't really like the feel of having my sig seperate my note > from the copy to which I am replying. Is there any way to put a line in my > .pinerc to tell pine that I want it to stick my sig _after_everything_ rather > than seperating my note from the reply copy? I have requested this before, and would still like to see this implemented. (That's one more vote, btw ) +=============================================================================+ | Christopher Curtis, Sun Lab System Administrator | | Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne Florida | | | | E-Mail/MIME/finger: ccurtis@ee.fit.edu | +=============================================================================+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 20 12:58:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23483; Wed, 20 Apr 94 12:58:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25027; Wed, 20 Apr 94 12:37:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25021; Wed, 20 Apr 94 12:37:19 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA18699; Wed, 20 Apr 94 15:37:15 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA25112; Wed, 20 Apr 94 15:37:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 15:37:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: Compiling pine on HP-UX 9.0 To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Wanted to find any information on compiling pine for HP-UX 9.0x. I tried to use "build hpp", but, as I thought would happen since this port was not documented as useful for 9.0, I had major problems. Not knowing enough about tracking these problems down, I was hoping for some help. Any comments on this matter would be very much appreciated... ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! "Jesus, I must be crazy to be in a ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! looney bin like this!" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Jack Nicholson ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! One flew over the cuckoo's nest ! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 20 13:41:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25396; Wed, 20 Apr 94 13:41:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18160; Wed, 20 Apr 94 13:19:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18154; Wed, 20 Apr 94 13:19:18 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23805; Wed, 20 Apr 94 13:19:12 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 13:19:12 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Bruce Mahfood Cc: Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: Compiling pine on HP-UX 9.0 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine (proto-3.90) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The HP port of Pine 3.89 was tested exclusively on an HP/UX 9.0.1 system. What kind of problems are you having? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 20 Apr 1994, Bruce Mahfood wrote: > Hi, > > Wanted to find any information on compiling pine for HP-UX 9.0x. I tried > to use "build hpp", but, as I thought would happen since this port was > not documented as useful for 9.0, I had major problems. Not knowing > enough about tracking these problems down, I was hoping for some help. > > Any comments on this matter would be very much appreciated... > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! "Jesus, I must be crazy to be in a ! > ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! looney bin like this!" ! > ! 304 Vassar St. ! Jack Nicholson ! > ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! One flew over the cuckoo's nest ! > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 20 14:54:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28301; Wed, 20 Apr 94 14:54:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28511; Wed, 20 Apr 94 14:44:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28503; Wed, 20 Apr 94 14:44:21 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA28635; Wed, 20 Apr 94 17:44:17 EDT Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 17:42:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: pine and the date To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I am running pine3.89 on Esix SVR4 with a NetBSD0.9 system as the mail server. Some of my users have been complaining that pine doesn't attach the proper date to the messages they send. What could be the cause of this? What can I do to correct this? Rick Gaine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 20 16:13:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01025; Wed, 20 Apr 94 16:13:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22029; Wed, 20 Apr 94 16:01:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22023; Wed, 20 Apr 94 16:01:17 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27273; Wed, 20 Apr 94 16:01:13 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 16:01:13 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Lisa M. Frye" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Security on PC-Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine (proto-3.90) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Lisa, We will continue to tune security on all versions of Pine, but there is not much you can do to prevent someone with a desire from forging mail. About all we can do is not make it easier than it is without Pine. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 11 Apr 1994, Lisa M. Frye wrote: > > What is the statis of security on PC-pine. In particular, is anything > planned for development that will prevent a user from walking up to a PC, > running PC-pine and sending mail as the user logged into the PC? > > Or, what are other sites doing to help prevent or curb this possibility? > > > Lisa Frye frye@acad.csv.kutztown.edu > Network Software Specialist LMS Annex Room 105 > Kutztown University phone: 610-683-4474 > Kutztown, PA. 19530 fax: 610-683-4634 > > "You can bring a person to the university, but you can't make him think." > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 20 18:24:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04918; Wed, 20 Apr 94 18:24:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03650; Wed, 20 Apr 94 18:09:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mi.engin.umich.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03636; Wed, 20 Apr 94 18:09:46 -0700 Received: (messina@localhost) by mi.engin.umich.edu (8.6.8/8.6.4) id VAA07532; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 21:09:44 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 21:08:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Messina Reply-To: Matt Messina Subject: How do you change domain name? To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Bear with me, this is not as simple as you probably think ... In my .pinerc file: user-domain=umich.edu use-only-domain-name=yes I've also tried with use-only-domain-name=no. Here's the problem. When I subscribe to a listserv or listproc mailing list, the listserver figures out my real domain name (which is engin.umich.edu) and registers me with that address. I prefer to get my mail through our X.500 gateway (umich.edu). Are there more .pinerc entries than are documented in the .pinerc file? Such as, perhaps, local-domain? What motivates my question is a few lines I saw in .pine-debugX. ---------- .pine-debug1 (excerpt) Userid: messina Fullname: "Matt Messina" User domain name being used "umich.edu" Local Domain name being used "engin.umich.edu" Host name being used "azure.engin.umich.edu" Mail Domain name being used "umich.edu" ---------- .pine-debug1 (excerpt) Somehow, the Local Domain seems to be escaping, although I'd like to hide it from the listservers. Is there a way to stop this? Thanks for any help. -- Matt Messina Vote YES on rec.arts.ascii matt.messina@umich.edu CFV: coming soon to a n.a.newgroups near you From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 20 18:57:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05530; Wed, 20 Apr 94 18:57:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25491; Wed, 20 Apr 94 18:47:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from jade.saintmarys.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25485; Wed, 20 Apr 94 18:47:29 -0700 Received: by jade.saintmarys.edu (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA23716; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 20:52:29 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 20:52:29 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Mandell Subject: Re: Compiling pine on HP-UX 9.0 To: Bruce Mahfood Cc: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Compiled straight out for us on Series 9000, Model 827 running HPUX 9.00. Dan On Wed, 20 Apr 1994, Bruce Mahfood wrote: > Hi, > > Wanted to find any information on compiling pine for HP-UX 9.0x. I tried > to use "build hpp", but, as I thought would happen since this port was > not documented as useful for 9.0, I had major problems. Not knowing > enough about tracking these problems down, I was hoping for some help. > > Any comments on this matter would be very much appreciated... > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! "Jesus, I must be crazy to be in a ! > ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! looney bin like this!" ! > ! 304 Vassar St. ! Jack Nicholson ! > ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! One flew over the cuckoo's nest ! > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > -- ===================================== Dan Mandell, Computer Services, Saint Mary's College Internet: dmandell@saintmarys.edu "Others promise you the World. We deliver!": New York Times From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 20 20:10:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06542; Wed, 20 Apr 94 20:10:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26596; Wed, 20 Apr 94 19:50:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from crl2.crl.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26590; Wed, 20 Apr 94 19:50:42 -0700 Received: by crl2.crl.com id AA15577 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 20 Apr 1994 19:49:28 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 19:48:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Machol Subject: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe smachol@crl.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 20 20:36:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06816; Wed, 20 Apr 94 20:36:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05820; Wed, 20 Apr 94 20:14:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05814; Wed, 20 Apr 94 20:14:31 -0700 Received: from ester.dsv.su.se by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05687; Wed, 20 Apr 94 20:14:29 -0700 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SUNET/ADMD=_/C=SE/; Relayed; 21 Apr 94 05:12:17+0200 Date: 21 Apr 94 05:12:17+0200 From: Steve Machol Message-Id: <656125*@su-kom.dsv.su.se> To: "Pine mailer discussions group (pine-infoEcac.washington.edu)" , Pine Mailing List From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 20 22:42:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08685; Wed, 20 Apr 94 22:42:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08228; Wed, 20 Apr 94 22:31:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from yacht.ee.fit.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08222; Wed, 20 Apr 94 22:31:41 -0700 Received: by ee.fit.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0/900117wah) id AA01894; Thu, 21 Apr 94 01:29:53 EDT Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 01:29:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Subject: Re: Question about my signature Cc: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 19 Apr 1994, Andrew B. Sweger wrote: > On Tue, 19 Apr 1994, Bruce Mahfood wrote: > > > Having used, to date, mailers and posters that put my sig after everything, > [bandwidth reduction act of 1994 implemented] > > Add signature-at-bottom to the feature-list in your .pinerc. [General love of ^K applied] Since I have lost the similar reply to my own mail, I would like to slightly clarify: When you reply to a file, signature-at-bottom works fine. If, however, you FORWARD a file, your signature appears at the beginning, regardless of the signature-at-bottom setting. Perhaps we should have two variables to choose from: signature-at-bottom (for compatibility) signature-at-bottom2 (for forwards.) Granted, #2 isn't very clear, but is there a better suggestion than signature-at-bottom-for-forwards-too? +=============================================================================+ | Christopher Curtis, Sun Lab System Administrator | | Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne Florida | | | | E-Mail/MIME/finger: ccurtis@ee.fit.edu | +=============================================================================+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 20 23:36:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09466; Wed, 20 Apr 94 23:36:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29871; Wed, 20 Apr 94 23:11:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29862; Wed, 20 Apr 94 23:11:01 -0700 Received: by mail.teleport.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.2) id ; Wed, 20 Apr 94 23:10 PDT Received: by nehalem.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00817; Wed, 20 Apr 94 23:12:28 PDT From: "Paradise Cowgirl" Message-Id: <9404202312.ZM815@unknown.zmail.host> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 23:12:25 -0700 In-Reply-To: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" "Re: Question about my signature" (Apr 21, 1:29am) References: Reply-To: minerva@teleport.com X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.0.0 15dec93) To: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Subject: Re: Question about my signature Cc: Pine Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 On Apr 21, 1:29am, Christopher \AWOL\ Curtis wrote: > When you reply to a file, signature-at-bottom works > fine. If, however, you FORWARD a file, your signature appears at the > beginning, regardless of the signature-at-bottom setting. Yes, this is starting to drive me batty... Cheers, >>-Darci-> -- ------ Love thy enemies: they'll go crazy trying to figure out what you're up to \ --/--- Bumpersticker of the Week: "Compost Happens" \ \/ / Don't support discrimination -- don't support the OCA! \/\ / http://vector.casti.com/QRD/.html/People/Darci.html \/ Paradise Cowgirl - minerva@teleport.com - minerva@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 20 23:56:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09727; Wed, 20 Apr 94 23:56:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09451; Wed, 20 Apr 94 23:44:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from santiam.CS.ORST.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09445; Wed, 20 Apr 94 23:44:06 -0700 Received: from xanth.CS.ORST.EDU (root@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU [128.193.164.25]) by santiam.CS.ORST.EDU (8.6.8/8.6.4) with ESMTP id XAA27758; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 23:44:04 -0700 Received: from xanth.CS.ORST.EDU (thorpej@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU [128.193.164.25]) by xanth.CS.ORST.EDU (8.6.8/8.6.4) with SMTP id XAA07392; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 23:45:05 -0700 Message-Id: <199404210645.XAA07392@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU> X-Authentication-Warning: xanth.CS.ORST.EDU: Host xanth.CS.ORST.EDU didn't use HELO protocol To: Bruce Mahfood Cc: Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: Compiling pine on HP-UX 9.0 From: Jason Thorpe Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 23:45:01 PDT On Wed, 20 Apr 1994 15:37:19 -0400 (EDT) Bruce Mahfood wrote: > Hi, > > Wanted to find any information on compiling pine for HP-UX 9.0x. I tried > to use "build hpp", but, as I thought would happen since this port was > not documented as useful for 9.0, I had major problems. Not knowing > enough about tracking these problems down, I was hoping for some help. > > Any comments on this matter would be very much appreciated... It built out of the box for me on: hp-ux 8.03 on 9000/845 hp-ux 9.00 on 9000/433 hp-ux 9.01 on 9000/735 hp-ux 9.03 on 9000/712-80i No warnings...The port was as close to perfect as you can get... > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! "Jesus, I must be crazy to be in a ! > ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! looney bin like this!" ! > ! 304 Vassar St. ! Jack Nicholson ! > ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! One flew over the cuckoo's nest ! > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason R. Thorpe thorpej@cs.orst.edu 737-9533 OSU CS Support CSWest Room 12 737-5567 'These are my opinions and not necessarily those of anyone else.' NetBSD/Symmetry - Coming soon to a Sequent near you! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 21 07:11:23 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15988; Thu, 21 Apr 94 07:11:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15840; Thu, 21 Apr 94 06:42:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from helix.nih.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15834; Thu, 21 Apr 94 06:42:38 -0700 Received: from localhost by helix.nih.gov (8.6.4/1.35(helix-1.0)) id JAA23088; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 09:42:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 09:42:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Troxel Subject: Re: Compiling pine on HP-UX 9.0 To: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: <199404210645.XAA07392@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Could this be a case of the unbundled C compiler vs.the bundled one? -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha On Wed, 20 Apr 1994, Jason Thorpe wrote: > On Wed, 20 Apr 1994 15:37:19 -0400 (EDT) > Bruce Mahfood wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Wanted to find any information on compiling pine for HP-UX 9.0x. I tried > > to use "build hpp", but, as I thought would happen since this port was > > not documented as useful for 9.0, I had major problems. Not knowing > > enough about tracking these problems down, I was hoping for some help. > > > > Any comments on this matter would be very much appreciated... > > It built out of the box for me on: > hp-ux 8.03 on 9000/845 > hp-ux 9.00 on 9000/433 > hp-ux 9.01 on 9000/735 > hp-ux 9.03 on 9000/712-80i > > No warnings...The port was as close to perfect as you can get... > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! "Jesus, I must be crazy to be in a ! > > ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! looney bin like this!" ! > > ! 304 Vassar St. ! Jack Nicholson ! > > ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! One flew over the cuckoo's nest ! > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Jason R. Thorpe thorpej@cs.orst.edu 737-9533 > OSU CS Support CSWest Room 12 737-5567 > 'These are my opinions and not necessarily those of anyone else.' > NetBSD/Symmetry - Coming soon to a Sequent near you! > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 21 13:43:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29604; Thu, 21 Apr 94 13:43:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16110; Thu, 21 Apr 94 13:10:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ACF4.NYU.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16104; Thu, 21 Apr 94 13:10:49 -0700 Received: by acf4.NYU.EDU (5.65/1.34) id AA18947; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 16:09:58 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 16:09:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Yigal Rechtman Subject: Cookie Recipe To: Susan , pinelist , Peter Milburn , Cliff Manis , Danny Lidawer , Rona Levin , Chanan Cc: Larry Raphael , Juhasz Alex , Dana Schnider , Sheldon Clare Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: US4RMC::"Ken_Salzberg@pdxml1.mentorg.com" "'Ken Salzberg' (by way of rays@dec4.viewpoint.com (Ray Salemi))" 13-APR-1994 10:27:28.77 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 23:43:48 -0700 (MST) > From: Arthur Galus > ********************* > To: AFC Leni > Posted on: System > Date: 3/25/94 9:41 AM > I'm passing this recipe along from another list I'm on...power to the cookie > people-- chris707@aol.com > Originally From: Shawn Considine > Great Cookie Recipe Boondoggle > My daughter & I had just finished a salad at Neiman-Marcus Cafe in Dallas > & decided to have a small dessert. Because our family are such cookie > lovers, we decided to try the "Neiman-Marcus Cookie". It was so excellent > that I asked if they would give me the recipe and they said with a small > frown, "I'm afraid not." Well, I said, would you let me buy the recipe? With > a cute smile, she said, "Yes." I asked how much, and she responded, "Two > fifty." I said with approval, just add it to my tab. > Thirty days later, I received my VISA statement from Neiman-Marcus and it > was $285.00. I looked again and I remembered I had only spent $9.95 for two > salads and about $20.00 for a scarf. As I glanced at the bottom of the > statement, it said, "Cookie Recipe - $250.00." Boy, was I upset!! I called > Neiman's Accounting Dept. and told them the waitress said it was "two fifty," > and I did not realize she meant $250.00 for a cookie recipe. I asked them to > take back the recipe and reduce my bill and they said they were sorry, but > because all the recipes were this expensive so not just everyone could > duplicate any of our bakery recipes....the bill would stand. I waited, > thinking of how I could get even or even try and get any of my money back. > I just said, "Okay, you folks got my $250.00 and now I'm going to have > $250.00 worth of fun." I told her that I was going to see to it that every > cookie lover will have a $250.00 cookie recipe from Neiman-Marcus for > nothing. She replied, "I wish you wouldn't do this." I said, "I'm sorry but > this is the only way I feel I could get even," and I will. > So, here it is, and please pass it to someone else or run a few copies....I > paid for it; now you can have it for free. (Recipe may be halved.): > 2 cups butter 4 cups flower > 2 tsp. soda 2 cups sugar > 5 cups blended oatmeal** 24 oz. chocolate chips > 2 cups brown sugar 1 tsp. salt > 1 8 oz. Hershey Bar (grated) 4 eggs > 2 tsp. baking powder 3 cups chopped nuts > 2 tsp. vanilla (your choice) > Cream the butter and both sugars. Add eggs and vanilla; mix together with > flour, oatmeal, salt, baking powder, and soda. Add chocolate chips, Hershey > Bar and nuts. > Roll into balls and place two inches apart on a cookie sheet. Bake for 10 > minutes at 375 degrees. Makes 112 cookies. > ** measure oatmeal and blend in a blender to a fine powder. > Have fun!!! This is not a joke --- this is a true story.. > That's it. Please, pass it > along to everyone you know, single > people, mailing lists, etc..... -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 21 14:52:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01390; Thu, 21 Apr 94 14:52:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17972; Thu, 21 Apr 94 14:35:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rodan.rs.itd.umich.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17964; Thu, 21 Apr 94 14:35:33 -0700 Received: from livy.ccs.itd.umich.edu by rodan.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.6.8.1/2.2) id RAA02286; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 17:35:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 17:33:18 -0400 (EDT) From: This Space For Rent Reply-To: This Space For Rent Subject: Re: Cookie Recipe To: Yigal Rechtman Cc: Susan , pinelist , Peter Milburn , Cliff Manis , Danny Lidawer , Rona Levin , Chanan , Larry Raphael , Juhasz Alex , Dana Schnider , Sheldon Clare In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Ugh. While I'm told that the recipe does in fact make good cookies, the story is completely bogus-- I've heard that exact same tale told regarding Mrs. Field's cookies & Famous Amos cookies...same amount, same recipe, in fact I think some of the text was the same. This is probably in the alt.folklore.urban FAQ...but regardless...it is just an entertaining tale tale. What it has to do with Pine I'm not sure Andrew Fabbro If laws are outlawed, weltschmerz@umich.edu only outlaws will University of Michigan have laws. Fnord. _____________________________________________________________ Finger afabbro@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu for PGP public key. PGPprint: 87 41 65 E0 C2 51 9F E5 A9 44 ED A6 6B 16 76 9E NSA bait: assassinate uranium dreamland CIA p.o.e. zimmerman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 21 16:26:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04672; Thu, 21 Apr 94 16:26:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20155; Thu, 21 Apr 94 16:03:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from acad.csv.kutztown.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20137; Thu, 21 Apr 94 16:03:03 -0700 Received: by acad.csv.kutztown.edu (5.65/1.35) id AA07729; Thu, 21 Apr 94 18:58:22 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 18:58:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "James D. Gillmore" Subject: Re: Cookie Recipe To: Yigal Rechtman Cc: Susan , pinelist , Peter Milburn , Cliff Manis , Danny Lidawer , Rona Levin , Chanan , Larry Raphael , Juhasz Alex , Dana Schnider , Sheldon Clare In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If this is acceptable use NOT then maybe everyone could send in gif's of the last automobile bill they received where they think they were hosed. For God's sake may seek professional help. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 21 16:36:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04981; Thu, 21 Apr 94 16:36:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20671; Thu, 21 Apr 94 16:28:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from Krypton.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20665; Thu, 21 Apr 94 16:28:21 -0700 Received: from localhost (hayden@localhost) by krypton.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id SAA00464; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 18:33:41 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 18:33:40 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Re: Cookie Recipe To: Pine Info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What's this have to do with Pine? I suppose you could replace the chocolate chips iwth diced pinecones or something....... ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> Political Correctness is \/ Finger for PGP 2.3a Public Key <=> P.C. for "Thought Police" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 21 16:44:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05216; Thu, 21 Apr 94 16:44:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29890; Thu, 21 Apr 94 16:35:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29884; Thu, 21 Apr 94 16:35:21 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17245; Thu, 21 Apr 94 16:34:55 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 16:34:55 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller Reply-To: Pine Mission Control {bug reports} To: "Richard C. Gaine" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine and the date In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine (proto-3.90) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Richard, Is it just a problem with Daylight Savings time or is it worse than that? --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 20 Apr 1994, Richard C. Gaine wrote: > Hi, > I am running pine3.89 on Esix SVR4 with a NetBSD0.9 system as the > mail server. Some of my users have been complaining that pine doesn't > attach the proper date to the messages they send. What could be the cause > of this? What can I do to correct this? > > Rick Gaine > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 21 16:46:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05335; Thu, 21 Apr 94 16:46:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20854; Thu, 21 Apr 94 16:38:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20848; Thu, 21 Apr 94 16:37:59 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17290; Thu, 21 Apr 94 16:37:56 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 16:37:55 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Matt Messina Cc: Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: How do you change domain name? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine (proto-3.90) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Matt, If user-domain is set, use-only-domain is ignored. I think the problem is that listproc incorrectly uses the Sender: header instead of the From: or Reply-To: header. We have not yet figured out how to completely solve the "listproc problem" ourselves... --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 20 Apr 1994, Matt Messina wrote: > Bear with me, this is not as simple as you probably think ... > > In my .pinerc file: > user-domain=umich.edu > use-only-domain-name=yes > > I've also tried with use-only-domain-name=no. > > Here's the problem. When I subscribe to a listserv or listproc mailing > list, the listserver figures out my real domain name (which is > engin.umich.edu) and registers me with that address. I prefer to get my > mail through our X.500 gateway (umich.edu). > > Are there more .pinerc entries than are documented in the .pinerc file? > Such as, perhaps, local-domain? What motivates my question is a few > lines I saw in .pine-debugX. > > ---------- .pine-debug1 (excerpt) > Userid: messina > Fullname: "Matt Messina" > User domain name being used "umich.edu" > Local Domain name being used "engin.umich.edu" > Host name being used "azure.engin.umich.edu" > Mail Domain name being used "umich.edu" > ---------- .pine-debug1 (excerpt) > > Somehow, the Local Domain seems to be escaping, although I'd like to hide > it from the listservers. Is there a way to stop this? Thanks for any help. > -- > Matt Messina Vote YES on rec.arts.ascii > matt.messina@umich.edu CFV: coming soon to a n.a.newgroups near you > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 21 17:31:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06765; Thu, 21 Apr 94 17:31:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21976; Thu, 21 Apr 94 17:22:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ULTRIX.UOR.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21962; Thu, 21 Apr 94 17:22:08 -0700 Received: by ultrix.uor.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA24242; Thu, 21 Apr 94 17:30:42 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 17:30:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Sharon Deng Subject: Stop sending junk ==> Re: Cookie Recipe (fwd) To: Pine Info Group Cc: Yigal Rechtman Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Pine People: I hope everybody in this group will keep a professional manner. Please don't send anything which is not related to the Pine-info to this mail list. We all belong to this group to help each other and help to improve the Pine system, NOT to discuss some kind of cookie recipes. Thank you for supporting. Sharon Deng Assistant Director Internet: deng@ultrix.uor.edu Academic Computer Center deng@jccvms.uor.edu University of Redlands Phone: (909)793-2121 x.4963 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 18:58:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Yigal Rechtman Cc: Susan , pinelist , Peter Milburn , Cliff Manis , Danny Lidawer , Rona Levin , Chanan , Larry Raphael , Juhasz Alex , Dana Schnider , Sheldon Clare Subject: Re: Cookie Recipe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 21 18:12:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07485; Thu, 21 Apr 94 18:12:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22846; Thu, 21 Apr 94 18:04:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from feenix.metronet.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22840; Thu, 21 Apr 94 18:04:28 -0700 Received: by metronet.com id AA23595 (5.67a/IDA1.5hp for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 21 Apr 1994 20:04:26 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 19:57:06 -0500 (CDT) From: prplhaze Subject: vacation mail To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII when away for extended period of time without access for remote login or mail forward how does one prevent the accumulation of voluminous mail messages. man pine didn't generate ideas. using pine 3.87 any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. thanks. prplhaze@feenix.metronet.com |thinking is the best way to travel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 21 20:27:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09150; Thu, 21 Apr 94 20:27:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04126; Thu, 21 Apr 94 20:20:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04120; Thu, 21 Apr 94 20:20:16 -0700 Received: from briksdal.cs.tu-berlin.de (czyborra@briksdal.cs.tu-berlin.de [141.23.58.13]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.7/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA16446; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 05:20:11 +0200 Received: (czyborra@localhost) by briksdal.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.7/8.6.6) id FAA21657; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 05:20:08 +0200 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 05:20:07 +0200 (MET DST) From: Roman Czyborra Subject: Re: vacation mail To: prplhaze@metronet.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The best tool for automatic mail processing that's ever crossed my path is procmail. See if your site doesn't have it yet. > when away for extended period of time without access for remote login or > mail forward how does one prevent the accumulation of voluminous mail > messages. man pine didn't generate ideas. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 21 20:48:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09392; Thu, 21 Apr 94 20:48:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04463; Thu, 21 Apr 94 20:39:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04457; Thu, 21 Apr 94 20:39:46 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA15948; Thu, 21 Apr 94 23:39:53 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA06334; Thu, 21 Apr 94 23:40:06 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 23:40:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: test mailer To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, just implemented procmail, and wanted to test my recipe in .procmailrc. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! "Jesus, I must be crazy to be in a ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! looney bin like this!" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Jack Nicholson ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! One flew over the cuckoo's nest ! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 21 21:03:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09555; Thu, 21 Apr 94 21:03:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04705; Thu, 21 Apr 94 20:53:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04699; Thu, 21 Apr 94 20:53:36 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA16181; Thu, 21 Apr 94 23:53:43 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA06389; Thu, 21 Apr 94 23:53:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 23:53:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: Test 2 To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sorry, but the first test didn't work. My last test... ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! "Jesus, I must be crazy to be in a ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! looney bin like this!" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Jack Nicholson ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! One flew over the cuckoo's nest ! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 21 21:32:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09931; Thu, 21 Apr 94 21:32:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05141; Thu, 21 Apr 94 21:22:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05135; Thu, 21 Apr 94 21:22:17 -0700 Received: from elvis.med.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa22307; 22 Apr 94 0:22 EDT Received: by elvis.med.Virginia.EDU (5.65c/1.34) id AA23340; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 00:22:09 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 00:22:09 -0400 From: "Steven D. Majewski" Message-Id: <199404220422.AA23340@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) To: Bruce Mahfood , Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: Test 2 On Apr 21, 23:53, Bruce Mahfood wrote: > Subject: Test 2 > > Sorry, but the first test didn't work. My last test... > You don't have to send mail to test procmail. You can just use formail to pipe each message from an existing folder to procmail. Something like: cat folder | formail -s procmail ... - Steve Majewski (804-982-0831) - UVA Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 22 06:30:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17447; Fri, 22 Apr 94 06:30:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03840; Fri, 22 Apr 94 06:09:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from snyflcc.fingerlakes.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03834; Fri, 22 Apr 94 06:09:23 -0700 Received: from localhost (krampwd@localhost) by snyflcc.fingerlakes.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id DAA02133; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 03:58:10 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 03:58:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "William D. Kramp" Subject: Use of Wyse50/60 terminals with Pine To: support group pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was wondering if any sites use wyse terminals with pine, and what termcap and/or patches they have made. I caught the part in the manual about UofW not being able to support the various keyboard mappings for cursor control, but I have several users that can't move from Wyse to VT terminals. If people have tried to get Wyse's to work, and failed, I would also appreciate that feedback as well. I am getting pressure to make the Wyse's work. One common mailer package to support would be nice, but I might have to do two :-( +===============================================================+ | Bill Kramp - System Admin. Finger Lakes Community College | | krampwd@snyflcc.fingerlakes.edu | +===============================================================+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 22 09:29:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21805; Fri, 22 Apr 94 09:29:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17070; Fri, 22 Apr 94 09:14:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mucc.mahidol.ac.th by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17064; Fri, 22 Apr 94 09:14:12 -0700 Received: by mucc.mahidol.ac.th (5.4R2.01/200.1.1.4) id AA29242; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 23:13:04 +0700 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 23:13:03 +0000 (GMT+0700) From: Prem Sumetpong Subject: Apology for duplicate mail To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear friends, I apologize for the double mail (mistakingly cc'ed to pine-info). I wanted to press ^C but missed and pressed ^X ? hmm.. now I see the problem the 2 keys being so close can cause. Thankyou PRem From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 22 09:39:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22205; Fri, 22 Apr 94 09:39:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16943; Fri, 22 Apr 94 09:10:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mucc.mahidol.ac.th by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16937; Fri, 22 Apr 94 09:10:49 -0700 Received: by mucc.mahidol.ac.th (5.4R2.01/200.1.1.4) id AA29195; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 23:09:34 +0700 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 23:09:34 +0000 (GMT+0700) From: Prem Sumetpong Subject: Re: Use of VT320 terminals with Pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: support group pine-info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Will pine3.90 support the use of vt320 terminals ? Thankyou Prem =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Prem Sumetpong | Tel (Off) : (662) 247-0333 Mahidol University Computing Center | (Fax) : (662) 246-7308 Faculty of Science, Mahidol University | email : ccpsm@mucc.mahidol.ac.th Rama 6 Rd, Bangkok 10400 , Thailand. | postmaster@mucc.mahidol.ac.th =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 22 10:35:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23811; Fri, 22 Apr 94 10:35:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18679; Fri, 22 Apr 94 10:13:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sun.lclark.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18673; Fri, 22 Apr 94 10:13:50 -0700 Received: by lclark.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25400; Fri, 22 Apr 94 10:12:58 PDT Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 10:12:58 -0700 (PDT) From: John Miller Subject: Re: Use of Wyse50/60 terminals with Pine To: "William D. Kramp" Cc: support group pine-info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 22 Apr 1994, William D. Kramp wrote: > I was wondering if any sites use wyse terminals with pine, and what > termcap and/or patches they have made. I caught the part in the manual > about UofW not being able to support the various keyboard mappings for > cursor control, but I have several users that can't move from Wyse to VT > terminals. We had to comment out the highlighting capabilities since the WYSE's rudely use up a screen cell for the mode change. This is mentioned I think in the Pine Tech Notes. Anyway, from SunOS: # se/so null so that wyse50 will work with Pine, jm dr, 1/92. ye|wyse50|Dumb Wyse 50 in Wyse mode:\ :al=\EE:am:bs:bt=\EI:cd=\EY:ce=\ET:cl=^Z:cm=\E=%+ %+ :co#80:\ :da:db:dc=\EW:dl=\ER:ei=\Er:im=\Eq:is=\E`\072\200\EC\EDF\E'\E(:\ :kd=^J:kl=^H:kr=^L:ku=^K:li#24:nd=^L:up=^K:\ :sg#1:sr=\Ej:ho=^^:ug#1:\ :us=:ue=:so=:se=:\ :if=/usr/share/lib/tabset/stdcrt: JM From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 22 11:32:11 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25814; Fri, 22 Apr 94 11:32:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20337; Fri, 22 Apr 94 11:16:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from yacht.ee.fit.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20327; Fri, 22 Apr 94 11:16:29 -0700 Received: by ee.fit.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0/900117wah) id AA03351; Fri, 22 Apr 94 14:14:31 EDT Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 14:14:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Subject: Folder Locks ... To: Pine List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I often use Pine remotely by modem and suspend it with a ^Z signal. Without fail, I end up re-executing pine in the same session. The second copy of pine tries to get a file lock from the first, but is unable, so loads itself in "readonly" mode. This is fine; I quit and go back to the first instance of pine. However, this session has also become "readonly." This is not a major problem for me, but I was just wondering why both sessions became read only when neither of them had a file lock. +=============================================================================+ | Christopher Curtis, Sun Lab System Administrator | | Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne Florida | | | | E-Mail/MIME/finger: ccurtis@ee.fit.edu | +=============================================================================+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 22 12:00:05 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26834; Fri, 22 Apr 94 12:00:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21046; Fri, 22 Apr 94 11:43:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from snyflcc.fingerlakes.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21040; Fri, 22 Apr 94 11:43:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (krampwd@localhost) by snyflcc.fingerlakes.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id JAA00184; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 09:30:45 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 09:30:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "William D. Kramp" Subject: Re: Use of VT320 terminals with Pine To: Prem Sumetpong Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, support group pine-info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have been using vt320 emulation with Procomm Plus on our PC's. VT100 and VT420's terminals also work with no problem. +===============================================================+ | Bill Kramp - System Admin. Finger Lakes Community College | | krampwd@snyflcc.fingerlakes.edu | +===============================================================+ On Fri, 22 Apr 1994, Prem Sumetpong wrote: > Hi, > Will pine3.90 support the use of vt320 terminals ? > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 22 13:19:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29589; Fri, 22 Apr 94 13:19:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13157; Fri, 22 Apr 94 13:02:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13151; Fri, 22 Apr 94 13:02:41 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00405; Fri, 22 Apr 94 13:02:37 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 13:02:36 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Cc: Pine List Subject: Re: Folder Locks ... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine (proto-3.90) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When you resume the second session, it still has the signal waiting to give up its lock. The problem is that since it was suspended, it could not acknowledge the loss of the lock... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 22 Apr 1994, Christopher "AWOL" Curtis wrote: > I often use Pine remotely by modem and suspend it with a ^Z > signal. Without fail, I end up re-executing pine in the same > session. The second copy of pine tries to get a file lock from > the first, but is unable, so loads itself in "readonly" mode. > This is fine; I quit and go back to the first instance of pine. > However, this session has also become "readonly." This is not a > major problem for me, but I was just wondering why both sessions > became read only when neither of them had a file lock. > > +=============================================================================+ > | Christopher Curtis, Sun Lab System Administrator | > | Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne Florida | > | | > | E-Mail/MIME/finger: ccurtis@ee.fit.edu | > +=============================================================================+ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 22 13:45:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00433; Fri, 22 Apr 94 13:45:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13975; Fri, 22 Apr 94 13:29:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ACF4.NYU.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13967; Fri, 22 Apr 94 13:29:34 -0700 Received: by acf4.NYU.EDU (5.65/1.34) id AA27502; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 16:29:26 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 16:29:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Yigal Rechtman Subject: Apologize (re: cookies) To: pinelist Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello Pine-List, I would like to start with an apology (see below) for send a msg to an entire list--I apologize for jamming your mboxes. In the past I had asked some questions about pine, and the pine-mailing list (to which I have not recevied very helpful information, BTW) and the pine-mailing list stayed in my address-book. When I forwarded the "cookies" msg I neglected to check this mailing list off since it was filed under the address book "misc" and not say "lists". I didn't mean to bother you pine-lovers nor is it my practice to send junk mail to lists. On the other hand, the nasty respons that I have recived are also not appropriate (what would happen to some begginer if he/she would see such nasty hate letters? Is the future of the internet to be like the street of New York City or L.A.? I hope NOT). So, if any of you got offended, please accept my apologies. For those of you who offended me (tried...) I can only offer my true simpathy for not been able to express themselves better. Too bad. -Yigal ymr6189@acf4.nyu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 22 14:42:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02405; Fri, 22 Apr 94 14:42:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25183; Fri, 22 Apr 94 14:27:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mi.engin.umich.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25169; Fri, 22 Apr 94 14:27:27 -0700 Received: (messina@localhost) by mi.engin.umich.edu (8.6.8/8.6.4) id RAA27661; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 17:27:23 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 17:25:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Imposter Reply-To: Matt Messina Subject: Re: How do you change domain name? To: David L Miller , Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > If user-domain is set, use-only-domain is ignored. I think the problem is > that listproc incorrectly uses the Sender: header instead of the From: or > Reply-To: header. We have not yet figured out how to completely solve the > "listproc problem" ourselves... Actually, I think that the Sender header says what I want it to. When I send myself something, the Sender line says messina@umich.edu, not messina@engin.umich.edu. Maybe it has nothing to do with user agents. Maybe it's looking at the SMTP Received headers? If that's the case, I don't think that there's anything that I (or the Pine Team, for that matter) can do. Anyone who knows anything about how listservers work please tell me. By the way, you can make Sender say whatever you want by editing it while it's in postponed-mail. You may want to change that, so that the Sender line isn't added until you actually send the message. I think I was able to "forge" this message as far as the From and Sender lines are concerned. I left the Reply-To alone, although that would have been just as easy to change. (I'm using 3.87 in case that matters.) Oh well, I guess I'll have to take my mailing lists at my "real" address. Thanks anyway. -- Matt Messina Vote YES on rec.arts.ascii matt.messina@umich.edu CFV: coming soon to a n.a.newgroups near you > On Wed, 20 Apr 1994, Matt Messina wrote: > > > Bear with me, this is not as simple as you probably think ... > > > > In my .pinerc file: > > user-domain=umich.edu > > use-only-domain-name=yes > > > > I've also tried with use-only-domain-name=no. > > > > Here's the problem. When I subscribe to a listserv or listproc mailing > > list, the listserver figures out my real domain name (which is > > engin.umich.edu) and registers me with that address. I prefer to get my > > mail through our X.500 gateway (umich.edu). > > > > Are there more .pinerc entries than are documented in the .pinerc file? > > Such as, perhaps, local-domain? What motivates my question is a few > > lines I saw in .pine-debugX. > > > > ---------- .pine-debug1 (excerpt) > > Userid: messina > > Fullname: "Matt Messina" > > User domain name being used "umich.edu" > > Local Domain name being used "engin.umich.edu" > > Host name being used "azure.engin.umich.edu" > > Mail Domain name being used "umich.edu" > > ---------- .pine-debug1 (excerpt) > > > > Somehow, the Local Domain seems to be escaping, although I'd like to hide > > it from the listservers. Is there a way to stop this? Thanks for any help. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 22 15:05:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03133; Fri, 22 Apr 94 15:05:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25526; Fri, 22 Apr 94 14:38:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mi.engin.umich.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25520; Fri, 22 Apr 94 14:38:06 -0700 Received: (messina@localhost) by mi.engin.umich.edu (8.6.8/8.6.4) id RAA27759; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 17:38:02 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 17:36:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Messina Subject: Re: Folder Locks ... To: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Cc: Pine List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've also accidently run two copies of Pine, but I've never had the first copy become readonly. -- Matt Messina Vote YES on rec.arts.ascii matt.messina@umich.edu CFV: coming soon to a n.a.newgroups near you On Fri, 22 Apr 1994, Christopher "AWOL" Curtis wrote: > I often use Pine remotely by modem and suspend it with a ^Z > signal. Without fail, I end up re-executing pine in the same > session. The second copy of pine tries to get a file lock from > the first, but is unable, so loads itself in "readonly" mode. > This is fine; I quit and go back to the first instance of pine. > However, this session has also become "readonly." This is not a > major problem for me, but I was just wondering why both sessions > became read only when neither of them had a file lock. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 22 15:40:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04371; Fri, 22 Apr 94 15:40:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17059; Fri, 22 Apr 94 15:27:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from henson.cc.wwu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17053; Fri, 22 Apr 94 15:27:25 -0700 Received: by henson.cc.wwu.edu (5.65/WWU-H1.2/UW-NDC Revision: 2.26 ) id AA04750; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 15:31:36 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 15:31:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Scott Williams" Subject: Pine Now on VMS w/Innosoft's PMDF To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have noticed in the past on this list a lot inquiries about Pine on VMS. I just noted that Innosoft, the authors of PMDF an SMTP email package for VMS, have included in their recent PMDF 4.3 release, Pine 3.89 for VMS. Their version of Pine _requires_ PMDF to run. -jscott- -------- |J. Scott Williams, MH 354 Ph: (206) 650-2868 FAX: (206) 650-2816 | |Academic Tech. User Services Internet: scott@henson.cc.wwu.edu | |Western Washington Univ. "Internet--Talking across the electronic| |Bellingham, WA 98225-9094 back fence of the world."-JSW| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 22 20:00:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09251; Fri, 22 Apr 94 20:00:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01816; Fri, 22 Apr 94 19:38:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from carson-oms1.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01810; Fri, 22 Apr 94 19:38:37 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by carson-oms1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03700; Fri, 22 Apr 94 19:38:36 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 19:38:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: CFV: comp.mail.pine (fwd) Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: none Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Folks, Even if you are content with the current email list, I would encourage everyone to send a YES vote, so that those who find netnews distribution more convenient than the list will be able to have that option. -teg ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 22 APR 1994 16:35:27 -0400 From: Peter Berger Newgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, comp.mail.mime, comp.mail.misc Subject: CFV: comp.mail.pine FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group comp.mail.pine Newsgroups line: comp.mail.pine The PINE mail user agent. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 13 May 1994. This CFV will be sent to the pine-info and pine-announce mailing lists. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact peterb@lm.com. For questions about the proposed group contact Arnt Gulbrandsen . CHARTER This group is for discussion about use and development of the Pine mail/news user agent developed by the University of Washington. Any Pine-related and Pine-specific discussion is acceptable, but general discussion regarding e.g. MIME or incoming-mail filters is referred to other, more appropriate newsgroups. The group is not moderated. To be made moderated, the same procedure should be followed as for the creation of a new group at that time. The group is bidirectionally gatewayed to the mailing list pine-info@cac.washington.edu. HOW TO VOTE Send MAIL to: vote@lm.com Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list. Your mail message should contain one of the following statements: I vote YES on comp.mail.pine I vote NO on comp.mail.pine You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 22 21:33:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10246; Fri, 22 Apr 94 21:33:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03317; Fri, 22 Apr 94 21:19:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03311; Fri, 22 Apr 94 21:19:45 -0700 Received: by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10059; Fri, 22 Apr 94 21:17:17 -0700 Received: by ListDist v0.2 for /usr/local/lib/pine-announce.cf Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10053; Fri, 22 Apr 94 21:17:15 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03275; Fri, 22 Apr 94 21:17:14 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09171; Fri, 22 Apr 94 21:17:14 -0700 Reply-To: vote@lm.com Message-Id: Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 21:17:12 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Pine Announcement Distribution Subject: CFV: comp.mail.pine X-Owner: pine-announce-request@cac.washington.edu X-To: pine-announce@cac.washington.edu FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group comp.mail.pine Newsgroups line: comp.mail.pine The PINE mail user agent. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 13 May 1994. This CFV will be sent to the pine-info and pine-announce mailing lists. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact peterb@lm.com. For questions about the proposed group contact Arnt Gulbrandsen . CHARTER This group is for discussion about use and development of the Pine mail/news user agent developed by the University of Washington. Any Pine-related and Pine-specific discussion is acceptable, but general discussion regarding e.g. MIME or incoming-mail filters is referred to other, more appropriate newsgroups. The group is not moderated. To be made moderated, the same procedure should be followed as for the creation of a new group at that time. The group is bidirectionally gatewayed to the mailing list pine-info@cac.washington.edu. HOW TO VOTE Send MAIL to: vote@lm.com Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list. Your mail message should contain one of the following statements: I vote YES on comp.mail.pine I vote NO on comp.mail.pine You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 24 13:19:23 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05148; Sun, 24 Apr 94 13:19:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06518; Sun, 24 Apr 94 13:05:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from heart.cas.und.NoDak.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06512; Sun, 24 Apr 94 13:05:46 -0700 Received: from sirius.cas.und.NoDak.Edu (sirius.cas.und.NoDak.edu [134.129.212.30]) by heart.cas.und.nodak.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA23531 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 1994 15:05:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (swiers@localhost) by sirius.cas.und.NoDak.Edu (8.6.5/8.6.6) id PAA00433 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sun, 24 Apr 1994 15:05:43 -0500 From: "Aaron J. Swiers" Message-Id: <199404242005.PAA00433@sirius.cas.und.NoDak.Edu> Subject: Info To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Sun, 24 Apr 1994 15:05:43 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 309 I am interested in subscribing to your mailing list, and would also like to find out if/where there is a pine faq. Thanks for any help. -- Aaron Swiers UND Aerospace - Scientific Computing Center swiers@aero.und.nodak.edu University of ND, Grand Forks swiers@plains.nodak.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 25 01:52:13 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12779; Mon, 25 Apr 94 01:52:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17187; Mon, 25 Apr 94 01:24:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from yacht.ee.fit.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17181; Mon, 25 Apr 94 01:24:54 -0700 Received: by ee.fit.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0/900117wah) id AA06932; Mon, 25 Apr 94 04:22:42 EDT Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 04:22:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Reply-To: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Subject: Re: Folder Locks ... Cc: Pine List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Fri, 22 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > When you resume the second session, it still has the signal waiting to > give up its lock. The problem is that since it was suspended, it could > not acknowledge the loss of the lock... Well, this isn't true, either. I was sitting at the INBOX folder's index list, hit ^Z, and typed "bg". It said that pine was running in the background, but each session still locked. We have a Sun Sparc 2 under SunOS 4.1.x and I call in via a Xyplex server. I have yet to try it under X-Windows, but if this isn't a known problem with the Suns, I'll tell ya what happens there as well. +=============================================================================+ | Christopher Curtis, Sun Lab System Administrator | | Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne Florida | | | | E-Mail/MIME/finger: ccurtis@ee.fit.edu | +=============================================================================+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 25 08:44:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18827; Mon, 25 Apr 94 08:44:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12839; Mon, 25 Apr 94 08:19:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12833; Mon, 25 Apr 94 08:18:59 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28123; Mon, 25 Apr 94 08:18:58 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11180; Sun, 24 Apr 94 23:40:54 -0700 Received: from rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15721; Sun, 24 Apr 94 23:40:52 -0700 Received: from ruba.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (ruba_el.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de [134.147.192.2]) by rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (8.5/8.5) with SMTP id IAA19828; Mon, 25 Apr 1994 08:40:48 +0200 From: Helmut.Brammerts@RUBA.RZ.ruhr-uni-bochum.de Received: from DE*D400*RUHR-UNI-BOCHUM by RUBA.RZ.RUHR-UNI-BOCHUM.DE via QTFS with X.400; Mon, 25 Apr 1994 08:38:31 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=RUHR-UNI-BOCHUM/ADMD=D400/C=DE/ ; Relayed ; Mon, 25 Apr 1994 08:38:31 +0200 X400-Received: by mta MTARUBA ; Relayed ; Mon, 25 Apr 1994 08:38:31 +0200 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 08:38:31 +0200 Message-Id: <940425083714599-MTARUBA*Helmut.Brammerts@RUBA.RZ.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> P1-Message-Id: DE*D400*RUHR-UNI-BOCHUM; 940425083714599-MTARUBA Ua-Content-Id: 940425083714599- Subject: international character sets Autoforwarded: FALSE To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 08:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Subject: Resent-Message-Id: Helmut Brammerts Helmut.Brammerts@ruba.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de Seminar fuer Sprachlehrforschung FAX: +49 234 7094 138 Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum Tel.: +49 234 700 5748 / 3815 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- In our international project ("International E-Mail Tandem Network" - with bilingual communication between language learners) we need international character sets and MIME compliant e-mail tools like PINE. But we do not really understand PINE's behaviour with respect to character sets. We expected 4 steps: 1. PINE (sender) knows about platform specific codes (PC code-pages, Windows' ANSI, etc.) and maps them to a more general character set like ISO-8859-1. 2. PINE (sender) encodes the message for transport (Base64 or whatever). 3. PINE (receiver) decodes the message. 4. PINE (receiver) maps the general character set (ISO-8859-1 ..) to the corresponding platform (Unix, Mac, ...) specific character set. But we suspect that pine doesn't behave like that. When we send a message from pc-pine and read it using pine on a NeXt (console or telnet), all special characters (umlauts, accented letters etc.) are mapped to nonsense letters. .pinerc/PINERC say "character-set=ISO-8859-1" on both machines. Is there anything else we have to do? Thanks in advance for your help. Helmut From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 25 11:36:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24867; Mon, 25 Apr 94 11:36:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17036; Mon, 25 Apr 94 11:15:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uafhp.uark.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17030; Mon, 25 Apr 94 11:15:54 -0700 Received: from comp.uark.edu by uafhp.uark.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/15.6) id AA17940; Mon, 25 Apr 94 13:16:19 -0500 Received: by (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA25045; Mon, 25 Apr 94 13:16:29 CDT Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 13:16:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Richard Lee Subject: termcaps for pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1014 pine (3.89 for unix) works with some terminal definitions but not with others. I sometimes use TERM=adm3a, and while *pico* works fine with that terminal definition, pine refuses to run. I'm thinking of writing a termcap file for my terminal which makes better use of its capabilities than adm3a. [I'm running a Sanyo MBC-1250 CP/M machine 4 MHz Z80, if anyone is curious--or if anyone already *has* a termcap for this and wants to send it to me.] I'd like, of course, to be able to run pine. Is there some simple answer to the question what capabilities must a terminal support for pine to run? If so, what's the answer? Or does pine simply use some *list* of acceptable terminals (e.g. "vt100") and refuse to run if your terminal is not on the list? Thanks. -- Dr. Richard Lee rlee@comp.uark.edu Department of Philosophy / Main 318 rlee@uafsysb.BITNET University of Arkansas voice: 501-575-5826 Fayetteville, AR 72701 fax: 501-575-2642 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 25 11:51:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25293; Mon, 25 Apr 94 11:51:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17490; Mon, 25 Apr 94 11:33:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from snyflcc.fingerlakes.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17484; Mon, 25 Apr 94 11:33:09 -0700 Received: from localhost (krampwd@localhost) by snyflcc.fingerlakes.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id JAA00545; Mon, 25 Apr 1994 09:20:29 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 09:20:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "William D. Kramp" Subject: folder lock To: support group pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am getting the message "Can't open folder lock, read only access", on all user accounts except root. What could I have done???? +===============================================================+ | Bill Kramp - System Admin. Finger Lakes Community College | | krampwd@snyflcc.fingerlakes.edu | +===============================================================+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 26 04:39:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15533; Tue, 26 Apr 94 04:39:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17809; Tue, 26 Apr 94 04:15:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from livbird.liv.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17803; Tue, 26 Apr 94 04:15:37 -0700 Received: from liverbird.liverpool.ac.uk by liverbird.liverpool.ac.uk via Local channel id <15891-0@liverbird.liverpool.ac.uk>; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 12:15:34 +0100 Subject: local & remote folders To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 12:15:33 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: alan.thew@liverpool.ac.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 344 From: Alan Thew Message-Id: <"liverbird..894:26.03.94.11.15.36"@liverbird.liverpool.ac.uk> On reading the pinerc files for 3.89, it would appear that both should be available/supported but when I try, I only get one or the other (usually local). Is this a bug or feature? Thanks. -- Alan Thew alan.thew@liv.ac.uk ...!uknet!liv!alan.thew Tel: +44 51 794-3735 University of Liverpool, Computing Services Fax: +44 51 794-3759 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 26 05:02:58 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15971; Tue, 26 Apr 94 05:02:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18309; Tue, 26 Apr 94 04:48:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from dummy1.dur.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18303; Tue, 26 Apr 94 04:48:05 -0700 Received: from venus.dur.ac.uk by dummy1.dur.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <05287-0@dummy1.dur.ac.uk>; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 12:39:53 +0100 Received: from vega.dur.ac.uk by venus.dur.ac.uk; Tue, 26 Apr 94 12:39:51 BST Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 12:39:46 +0100 (BST) From: Barry Cornelius Reply-To: Barry Cornelius Subject: highlighting To: Pine Info Mailing List Cc: J A Law Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Length: 909 One of our users has mentioned the "terribly slow drawing speed" when inverted video is used to highlight messages - she is using a modem. Following recent correspondence on this list, I suggested that she type an "stty 1200" command before invoking pine. She says that she now gets > instead of highlighting when in the folder index but not when she is in the main menu. I see that moving around the folder index also involves highlighting. I thought you might like to see these comments: I have difficulty in forming a view on this as I have difficulty in simulating the user's environment. -- Barry Cornelius Until 15 Apr 95: (091 or +44 91) 374 4717 IT Service, Science Site, From 01 Aug 94: (0191 or +44 191) 374 4717 University of Durham, IT Service Office: 374 2892 Fax: 374 3741 Durham, DH1 3LE, UK E-mail: Barry.Cornelius@durham.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 26 06:48:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17102; Tue, 26 Apr 94 06:48:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07432; Tue, 26 Apr 94 06:30:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from acad.csv.kutztown.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07426; Tue, 26 Apr 94 06:30:09 -0700 Received: by acad.csv.kutztown.edu (5.65/1.35) id AA26701; Tue, 26 Apr 94 09:31:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 09:31:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Unger Reply-To: Chris Unger Subject: Subscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Could my name please be added to the mailing list? Thanks. unge1845@acad.csv.kutztown.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 26 09:14:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20917; Tue, 26 Apr 94 09:14:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09795; Tue, 26 Apr 94 08:40:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from heart.cas.und.NoDak.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09789; Tue, 26 Apr 94 08:40:09 -0700 Received: from sirius.cas.und.NoDak.Edu (sirius.cas.und.NoDak.edu [134.129.212.30]) by heart.cas.und.nodak.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA19670 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 10:40:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (swiers@localhost) by sirius.cas.und.NoDak.Edu (8.6.5/8.6.6) id KAA02729 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 10:40:07 -0500 From: "Aaron J. Swiers" Message-Id: <199404261540.KAA02729@sirius.cas.und.NoDak.Edu> Subject: Pine FAQ To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 10:40:06 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 247 Could someone please point me in the direction of the Pine FAQ. Thank you. -- Aaron Swiers UND Aerospace - Scientific Computing Center swiers@aero.und.nodak.edu University of ND, Grand Forks swiers@plains.nodak.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 26 09:38:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21594; Tue, 26 Apr 94 09:38:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23559; Tue, 26 Apr 94 09:21:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23553; Tue, 26 Apr 94 09:21:11 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27740; Tue, 26 Apr 94 09:21:03 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 09:21:02 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Aaron J. Swiers" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine FAQ In-Reply-To: <199404261540.KAA02729@sirius.cas.und.NoDak.Edu> Message-Id: Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine (proto-3.90) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Unfortunately there isn't one yet. We are working on one though... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 26 Apr 1994, Aaron J. Swiers wrote: > Could someone please point me in the direction of the Pine FAQ. > Thank you. > > -- > Aaron Swiers > UND Aerospace - Scientific Computing Center swiers@aero.und.nodak.edu > University of ND, Grand Forks swiers@plains.nodak.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 26 16:08:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03429; Tue, 26 Apr 94 16:08:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02864; Tue, 26 Apr 94 15:57:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02858; Tue, 26 Apr 94 15:57:14 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10883; Tue, 26 Apr 94 15:57:13 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01607; Tue, 26 Apr 94 15:08:06 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18453; Tue, 26 Apr 94 15:08:05 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08914; Tue, 26 Apr 94 15:05:31 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 15:05:30 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Helmut.Brammerts@RUBA.RZ.ruhr-uni-bochum.de Cc: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: international character sets In-Reply-To: <940425083714599-MTARUBA*Helmut.Brammerts@RUBA.RZ.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Message-Id: Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine (proto-3.90) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 15:57:04 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Subject: Resent-Message-Id: Helmut, PC-Pine includes mapping tables for some of the IBM codepages to and from ISO-8859-1 and ISO-8859-5, but the other platforms assume that the terminal or emulation is using the character set specified by character-set in your .pinerc file. >From the Pine Technical Notes: In the case of PC-Pine, the character values cannot be passed thru to the display device unaltered since MS-DOS uses various non- standard character sets called "Code Pages". The mapping between DOS Code Page and standard character set is controlled by the "character-set" variable in the PINERC file and the PC's installed Code Page. PC-Pine will automatically map common characters in IBM Code Pages 437, 850, 860, 863, and 865 to ISO-8859-1 and back when the PINERC has "character-set=ISO-8859-1". Pine will also map common characters for IBM Code Page 866 to ISO-8859-5 and back when "character-set=ISO- 8859-5". The mappings are bi-directional, and applied to all saved text attachments in the defined character set, messages exported, etc. Alternatively, the translation tables can be configured externally and applied at run time whenever the "character-set=" variable is set to something other then "US-ASCII" (the de- fault). PC-Pine looks in the text file point- ed to by the environment variable "ISO_TO_CP" for the table to use for mapping text matching the type defined by the "character-set=" vari- able into the local Code Page value. PC-Pine looks in the text file pointed to by the en- vironment variable "CP_TO_ISO" for the table to use for mapping text in the local Code Page into outbound text tagged with the "character-set=" variable's value. A text file containing a character set mapping table is expected to contain 256 elements where each element is a decimal number separated from the next element by white-space (space, tab or newline, but no commas!). The index of the element is the character's value in the source character set, and the element's value is the corresponding character's value in the destination character set. Does that help? --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 25 Apr 1994 Helmut.Brammerts@RUBA.RZ.ruhr-uni-bochum.de wrote: > Helmut Brammerts Helmut.Brammerts@ruba.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de > Seminar fuer Sprachlehrforschung FAX: +49 234 7094 138 > Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum Tel.: +49 234 700 5748 / 3815 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > In our international project ("International E-Mail Tandem Network" - with > bilingual communication between language learners) we need international > character sets and MIME compliant e-mail tools like PINE. > > But we do not really understand PINE's behaviour with respect to character > sets. We expected 4 steps: > > 1. PINE (sender) knows about platform specific codes (PC code-pages, Windows' > ANSI, etc.) and maps them to a more general character set like ISO-8859-1. > 2. PINE (sender) encodes the message for transport (Base64 or whatever). > 3. PINE (receiver) decodes the message. > 4. PINE (receiver) maps the general character set (ISO-8859-1 ..) to the > corresponding platform (Unix, Mac, ...) specific character set. > > But we suspect that pine doesn't behave like that. When we send a message > from pc-pine and read it using pine on a NeXt (console or telnet), all > special characters (umlauts, accented letters etc.) are mapped to > nonsense letters. > > .pinerc/PINERC say "character-set=ISO-8859-1" on both machines. Is there > anything else we have to do? > > Thanks in advance for your help. > Helmut > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 27 09:17:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22580; Wed, 27 Apr 94 09:17:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20392; Wed, 27 Apr 94 08:54:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rodan.rs.itd.umich.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20386; Wed, 27 Apr 94 08:54:46 -0700 Received: from robotron.rs.itd.umich.edu by rodan.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.6.8.1/2.2) id LAA14078; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 11:54:41 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 11:54:44 -0400 (EDT) From: This Space For Rent Subject: help info To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, pine-announce@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII info help From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 27 11:01:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25554; Wed, 27 Apr 94 11:01:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09364; Wed, 27 Apr 94 10:44:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rodan.rs.itd.umich.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09358; Wed, 27 Apr 94 10:44:44 -0700 Received: from virgil.ccs.itd.umich.edu by rodan.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.6.8.1/2.2) id NAA20055; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 13:44:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 13:44:42 -0400 (EDT) From: This Space For Rent Subject: Pine "User's Guide" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <9404271713.AA24114@shivams.cac.washington.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sorry for the earlier should-have-gone-to-majordomo post...and I just told someone that the other day on another list But I do have a Bona Fide Question. I've heard both a "Pine User's Guide" and a "New to Pine Help Guide" mentioned occaisionally here. I snooped around ftp.cac.washington.edu but was unable to find them. If someone could drop me either a copy or a pointer or a "that doesn't exist", I would be (almost) eternally grateful. I work for U-Michigan's ITD User Services, which will be spending the summer writing documentation for students moving to Pine, so any existing documentation would be very helpful. Likewise, if anyone knows of on-line Pico docs, I would be very grateful for the aforementioned copy/pointer, as the only thing I've found is pico's internal help system. Thank you! Andrew Fabbro If laws are outlawed, weltschmerz@umich.edu only outlaws will University of Michigan have laws. Fnord. _____________________________________________________________ Finger afabbro@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu for PGP public key. PGPprint: 87 41 65 E0 C2 51 9F E5 A9 44 ED A6 6B 16 76 9E From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 27 11:37:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26743; Wed, 27 Apr 94 11:37:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23897; Wed, 27 Apr 94 11:17:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from nessie.cc.wwu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23891; Wed, 27 Apr 94 11:16:56 -0700 Resent-From: OLNEY2@NESSIE.CC.WWU.EDU Resent-Message-Id: <9404271816.AA23891@mx1.cac.washington.edu> Received: from NESSIE.CC.WWU.EDU by NESSIE.CC.WWU.EDU (PMDF V4.3-7 #2844) id <01HBO1SQFB5C009V6L@NESSIE.CC.WWU.EDU>; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 11:16:10 PST Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 11:16:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 11:16:07 -0800 (PST) From: TJ Olney Subject: VMS pine ? Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT We have just installed a new PMDF system on our VMS machine. It came with pine. (This is being sent from pine on VMS) It has a few bugs that cause stack dumps that I would like to see fixed if possible. Question: Is anyone supporting it? Please reply to me directly as I don't subscribe to the list. Thanks. TJ Olney olney2@nessie.cc.wwu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 27 12:31:58 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28468; Wed, 27 Apr 94 12:31:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25231; Wed, 27 Apr 94 12:16:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25225; Wed, 27 Apr 94 12:16:08 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05949; Wed, 27 Apr 94 12:16:05 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 12:16:04 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: This Space For Rent Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine "User's Guide" In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine (proto-3.90) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Andrew, Whack!!! Feel better? ;) We don't have a User's guide of our own ready yet, but I do know of a WWW page (http://www.snre.umich.edu/snre/pine.intro.html) done at UMich Scool of Natural Resources and Environment and a document by Allison Anderson . --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 27 Apr 1994, This Space For Rent wrote: > Sorry for the earlier should-have-gone-to-majordomo post...and I just > told someone that the other day on another list > > > But I do have a Bona Fide Question. I've heard both a "Pine User's Guide" > and a "New to Pine Help Guide" mentioned occaisionally here. I snooped > around ftp.cac.washington.edu but was unable to find them. If someone > could drop me either a copy or a pointer or a "that doesn't exist", I > would be (almost) eternally grateful. > > I work for U-Michigan's ITD User Services, which will be spending the > summer writing documentation for students moving to Pine, so any existing > documentation would be very helpful. Likewise, if anyone knows of > on-line Pico docs, I would be very grateful for the aforementioned > copy/pointer, as the only thing I've found is pico's internal help system. > > Thank you! > > > Andrew Fabbro If laws are outlawed, > weltschmerz@umich.edu only outlaws will > University of Michigan have laws. Fnord. > _____________________________________________________________ > Finger afabbro@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu for PGP public key. > PGPprint: 87 41 65 E0 C2 51 9F E5 A9 44 ED A6 6B 16 76 9E > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 27 12:33:54 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28542; Wed, 27 Apr 94 12:33:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11638; Wed, 27 Apr 94 12:19:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11624; Wed, 27 Apr 94 12:19:16 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06060; Wed, 27 Apr 94 12:19:08 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 12:19:07 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: TJ Olney Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: VMS pine ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine (proto-3.90) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The version of Pine distributed with PMDF is being supported directly by Innosoft. Any questions or problems directly related to that port should be directed to Innosoft customer support (service@innosoft.com). --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 27 Apr 1994, TJ Olney wrote: > We have just installed a new PMDF system on our VMS machine. It came > with pine. (This is being sent from pine on VMS) > > It has a few bugs that cause stack dumps that I would like to see fixed if > possible. > > Question: Is anyone supporting it? > > Please reply to me directly as I don't subscribe to the list. > Thanks. TJ Olney olney2@nessie.cc.wwu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 27 12:42:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28784; Wed, 27 Apr 94 12:42:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25613; Wed, 27 Apr 94 12:30:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25603; Wed, 27 Apr 94 12:30:38 -0700 Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V4.3-8 #1234) id <01HBO4ER3OK8984LZR@INNOSOFT.COM>; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 12:30:24 PDT Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 12:30:23 -0700 (PDT) From: PORTIA@INNOSOFT.COM Subject: Re: VMS pine ? In-Reply-To: To: TJ Olney Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT On Wed, 27 Apr 1994, TJ Olney wrote: > We have just installed a new PMDF system on our VMS machine. It came > with pine. (This is being sent from pine on VMS) > > It has a few bugs that cause stack dumps that I would like to see fixed if > possible. you should address your VMS Pine problems to service@innosoft.com, yes we support it, but not the University of Washington (not directly anyway) > > Question: Is anyone supporting it? > > Please reply to me directly as I don't subscribe to the list. > Thanks. TJ Olney olney2@nessie.cc.wwu.edu > /portia portia@innosoft.com Innosoft International Inc. (818)919-3600 voice, (818)919-3614 fax 1050 East Garvey Ave South, West Covina, CA 91790 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 27 13:52:59 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01498; Wed, 27 Apr 94 13:52:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27221; Wed, 27 Apr 94 13:36:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from recycle.snre.umich.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27215; Wed, 27 Apr 94 13:35:59 -0700 Received: from localhost by snre.umich.edu (8.6.4/2.2) id QAA00201; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 16:35:58 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 16:35:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Tang Subject: Pine Users guide (internet version) To: Pine Group Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi folks. Due to the recent flurry of "I NEED A USER GUIDE!" requests, I've modified my home grown documentation to a more generalized "internet version". Actually, all i've done is strip all of the Univeristy of Michigan, and School of Natural Resources and Environment specific stuff. Everything else is untouched. I've put up both a PostScript version, and a Macintosh, Microsoft Word version 5.1a version as well. (the word version has been binhexed). Feel free to modify it as needed, but of course, please leave my name, and UM/UM-SNRE's name on it as well. Also, if you do modify it, please send me the copy that you are using. It'd just be nice for me to see what other people have to say. (and besides, I don't think that my writing is that good). it is available via ftp in: ftp.snre.umich.edu:/pub/pine/documentation/pine.internet.doc.Hqx (word version) ftp.snre.umich.edu:/pub/pine/documentation/pine.internet.doc.ps (PostScript) (a note for those who i sent an explicit message to:, note the file location has changed a bit...sorry...my fault). In a couple of days, there will be a HTML version at http://www.snre.umich.edu/pine/pine.internet.doc.html Here's my disclaimer about it: This piece of documentation was originally written for the University of Michigan, School of Natural Resources and Environment. It's target audience was/is/are novice computer users who have been using UM's mainframe computing system (the Michigan Terminal System, or MTS). The documentation is by no means a definitive explanation of all of pine's features, but I have found that it does answer about 90 - 95% of a first time user's questions. (I'll leave out the legal garbage, but it's written in the document proper.) ---end disclaimer... Please feel free to send me feedback about it (flames too, although If you put "flame" anywhere in the subject line, procmail will dissapate it as heat. :) . I must admit, I don't think myself as much of a writer, but I've worked hard to make this as comprehensible as possible. Sorry about the delay... ...alex... Alex Tang --- ALTITUDE@UMICH.EDU...USERW00Y@UMICHUM.BITNET -----------+ UM-SNRE: Student, Computer Consultant III, & SysAdmin PGP on req.| ITD/CSS Consultant, Short asian with long hair :) or via fing| WWW -> http://www.snre.umich.edu/users/altitude/ "The journey of a thousand donuts begins with one cruller." -TL From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 27 14:46:59 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03652; Wed, 27 Apr 94 14:46:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28394; Wed, 27 Apr 94 14:23:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ACC.WUACC.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28368; Wed, 27 Apr 94 14:23:08 -0700 Received: by acc.wuacc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA120019; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 16:25:52 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 16:25:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Susan Jarchow Van Sickle Subject: question about Pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu Cc: david bainum , David Oliver , bob stoller , Susan Jarchow Van Sickle , Sheri Saville Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On our campus, our IBM RS/6000 computers are accessed by most users through an Equinox Data Switch. Connections through this switch are set to timeout after a certain period of inactivity (30 minutes) in order to free up ports on our RS/6000s for usage by other users. Our systems administrator recently noticed that some of our users had been in the same Pine session all day long. Our first hypothesis as to how this could be the case was that these users were receiving or sending messages at least every 30 minutes. In order to check this out, we started a Pine session, and discovered that even when no mail was received or sent out of a Pine session, about every 2 and a half minutes, our data switch sensed activity, and reset its timeout timer for this particular port. Our question, then, is the following: Does Pine send some signal to the terminal every 2 and a half minutes? If so, is there anyway to reconfigure Pine so that it doesn't do this? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Susan VanSickle, Training Manager Academic Computer Center FAX: (913) 233-2335 Washburn University Voice: (913) 231-1010 1700 College Extension 1389 Topeka, KS 66621 Internet: vansickl@acc.wuacc.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 27 14:54:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03883; Wed, 27 Apr 94 14:54:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14965; Wed, 27 Apr 94 14:34:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14951; Wed, 27 Apr 94 14:34:15 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09838; Wed, 27 Apr 94 14:33:47 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 14:33:46 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Susan Jarchow Van Sickle Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu, david bainum , David Oliver , bob stoller , Susan Jarchow Van Sickle , Sheri Saville Subject: Re: question about Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine (proto-3.90) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Susan, Pine does a new mail check every 300 seconds. During this check a '*' is displayed in the upper left-hand corner of the screen. There is currently no way to disable this without changing the code. Actually, I was under the impression that most inactivity timeouts only look at the incoming line and are thus unaffected by the spurious characters. Thanks for the report! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 27 Apr 1994, Susan Jarchow Van Sickle wrote: > On our campus, our IBM RS/6000 computers are accessed by most users > through an Equinox Data Switch. Connections through this switch are set > to timeout after a certain period of inactivity (30 minutes) in order to > free up ports on our RS/6000s for usage by other users. > > Our systems administrator recently noticed that some of our users had > been in the same Pine session all day long. Our first hypothesis as to > how this could be the case was that these users were receiving or > sending messages at least every 30 minutes. In order to check this out, > we started a Pine session, and discovered that even when no mail was > received or sent out of a Pine session, about every 2 and a half > minutes, our data switch sensed activity, and reset its timeout timer for > this particular port. > > Our question, then, is the following: Does Pine send some signal to the > terminal every 2 and a half minutes? If so, is there anyway to > reconfigure Pine so that it doesn't do this? > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Susan VanSickle, Training Manager > Academic Computer Center FAX: (913) 233-2335 > Washburn University Voice: (913) 231-1010 > 1700 College Extension 1389 > Topeka, KS 66621 Internet: vansickl@acc.wuacc.edu > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 27 15:31:14 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04853; Wed, 27 Apr 94 15:31:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29603; Wed, 27 Apr 94 15:12:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29597; Wed, 27 Apr 94 15:12:11 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA06837; Wed, 27 Apr 94 18:11:58 EDT Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 18:10:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: Re: Pine Users guide (internet version) To: Alex Tang Cc: Pine Group In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Alex, I tried ftping to your cite to get the pine user guide, but when I tried logging in as ftp or anonymous it told me user unknown. If there is a problem with the server would you just e-mail me a copy of the guide for MS word? Thanks Rick Gaine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 27 17:33:05 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09406; Wed, 27 Apr 94 17:33:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02163; Wed, 27 Apr 94 17:02:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from soda.Berkeley.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02157; Wed, 27 Apr 94 17:02:50 -0700 Received: (hkuo@localhost) by soda.berkeley.edu (8.6.9/PHILMAIL-1.10) id RAA23862; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 17:02:45 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 17:02:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Henry @(0-0)" Subject: Re: reading news in PC-pine To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > As David notes, a version *after* 3.90 will support "location > independence" of support files such as .newsrc, so that you can use the > same .newsrc from multiple platforms, even if you don't have an account on ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > the news server. > If I can connect to difference news servers and they do not have the same newsgroups, will I get bogus messages when checking new newsgroups for different server after 3.90? Can I have different .newsrcs for different news servers? =Henry= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 27 18:19:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10354; Wed, 27 Apr 94 18:19:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03392; Wed, 27 Apr 94 17:59:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from carson-oms2.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03386; Wed, 27 Apr 94 17:59:16 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by carson-oms2.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22801; Wed, 27 Apr 94 17:59:10 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 17:59:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Henry @(0-0)" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: reading news in PC-pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: none Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > If I can connect to difference news servers and they do not have the > same newsgroups, will I get bogus messages when checking new newsgroups > for different server after 3.90? Can I have different .newsrcs for > different news servers? Henry, The .newsrc file format uses article numbers that are tied to a specific server. At the moment Pine assumes you only have one .newsrc file. We'll add to the request list the need to be able to specify the path of the newsrc file, so you could use the -p command line option to point to a different .pinerc specifying a different .newsrc (as well as news host). -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 27 18:39:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10753; Wed, 27 Apr 94 18:39:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19847; Wed, 27 Apr 94 18:23:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from acad.csv.kutztown.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19841; Wed, 27 Apr 94 18:23:57 -0700 Received: by acad.csv.kutztown.edu (5.65/1.35) id AA04241; Wed, 27 Apr 94 21:25:05 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 21:25:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Unger Subject: Pine Suggestion To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a suggestion for a new Pine feature. (If this is already taken care of, let me know! I can't find out how to do it) I, like many of you, I'm sure, belong to many mailing lists. 3 to be exact, (2 active ones and 1 inactive one) What I would like to see is a sort the TO: field command line option. That way, I'll get the Emacs first, Pine second etc... I love the "+" for personal msgs. If anybody adds this feature, please send me a copy of the code to use. Thanks... /********************************SBK**************************************\ |** Chris Unger MicroComputer Specialist **| |** unge1845@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Computer Services Room 112b **| S** cunger@nyx.cs.du.edu Kutztown University, PA **S B** **B K** Anyone can win, **K |** unless of course there happens Finger unge1845 for Hours **| |** to be a second contestant. and Phone Numbers **| \********************************SBK**************************************/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 27 21:58:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13725; Wed, 27 Apr 94 21:58:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06878; Wed, 27 Apr 94 21:33:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post1.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06870; Wed, 27 Apr 94 21:33:33 -0700 Received: from enuxsa.eas.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HBONFCZCC08ZIP0K@asu.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 21:35:18 MST Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 21:32:03 -0700 (MST) From: Kevin Pinto Subject: Suggested enhancement To: Pine Info Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi David If you use multiple folders and tab between them, you often have to deal with: No more messages. View next folder "Procmail"? (y/n/^C) [y]: Are there any plans to let the tab key: 1. Move silently to the next folder. 2. Skip across folders with no new messages? These enhancements would be great. Thanks and regards, Kevin ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Pinto, Chem Engg, ASU, Tempe, AZ My mailer understands MIME "Beware of reading health books; you may die of a misprint" - Mark Twain "An armed society is a polite society" - Beyond This Horizon, Robert Heinlein From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 28 01:44:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16960; Thu, 28 Apr 94 01:44:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10945; Thu, 28 Apr 94 01:35:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from email.univie.ac.at by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10939; Thu, 28 Apr 94 01:35:36 -0700 Received: from phoenix.cc.univie.ac.at by email.univie.ac.at with SMTP (PP) id <25920-0@email.univie.ac.at>; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 10:35:18 +0200 Received: by phoenix.cc.univie.ac.at id AA08871 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 10:35:16 +0200 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 10:35:16 +0200 From: Gerhard Winkler Message-Id: <199404280835.AA08871@phoenix.cc.univie.ac.at> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine documentation X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 I can remember a Pine documentation in PostScript format I printed in november 1993. I lost the pointer to it. Does someone know where to get it ... ? -manfred schmiedl@cc.univie.ac.at From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 28 06:57:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21457; Thu, 28 Apr 94 06:57:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01409; Thu, 28 Apr 94 06:39:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uu3.psi.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01403; Thu, 28 Apr 94 06:39:30 -0700 Received: from naz.edu by uu3.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA29176 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 94 09:32:14 -0400 Received: from libra.naz.edu by naz.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-DNI) id AA16332; Thu, 28 Apr 94 09:21:17 EDT Received: by libra.naz.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA27866; Thu, 28 Apr 94 09:23:43 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 09:19:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael A Naud Subject: Eliminating news folder To: Pine discussion group Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have tried several ways to not have pine read my .newsrc file. How do you eliminate this? I have tried modifying my .pinerc file, but with no luck. What obvious thing am I missing. Michael A. Naud ---- Michael A. Naud Nazareth College of Rochester (716) 586-2525 ext.827 VOICE Dept. of Academic Computing (716) 586-2452 FACSIMILE 4245 East Avenue manaud@naz.edu E-MAIL Rochester, NY 14618-3980 USA "...you're Norma Desmond. You were big." Gloria Swanson to William "I am big. It's the pictures that got small." Holden in "Sunset Boulevard" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 28 08:16:56 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22897; Thu, 28 Apr 94 08:16:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17028; Thu, 28 Apr 94 07:58:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from carson-oms1.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17022; Thu, 28 Apr 94 07:58:18 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by carson-oms1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14908; Thu, 28 Apr 94 07:58:17 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 07:58:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray Reply-To: Ken Brown To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Ken Brown Subject: Q: Why use pine (looking for justification) (fwd) Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: none Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII With Ken's permission, I'm re-directing this msg to the list for comment... -teg ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 22:09:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Brown To: The Pine Team Subject: Q: Why use pine (looking for justification) Hello, My department (CTS) takes care of mail at Trent University. The mail hub is VMS host running PMDF and most our accounts are on this host. We also support UNIX (Ultrix). I take care of UNIX, NetWare and Pathworks. For mailers we use VMS Mail on VMS hosts, Elm (sorry) and Pine on UNIX hosts, Pathworks Mail on PC-Pathworks workstations and there is very limited use of Pegasus Mail for NetWare clients. Ergo, we're faced with the problems outlined in the document describing imap vs. pop - and CTS would like to provide a reliable and manageable solution for VMS, UNIX, PC and MAC users. Having read the docs and just installed PC Pine (of course imapd on UNIX) I'm of the opinion that imap clients are the way to go... So, may question really is; can you folks point me to other institutions you might be aware of who have gone this route? For example, are there sites where PC Pine has been selected over Pegasus Mail...I'd like to get their reasons. Some of our faculty are impressed with Pegasus largely because it is the first mailer they've seen running on a DOS box - and they compare it to VMS Mail (all that colour is impressive :-) ). But they are unaware of the need for gateways (Charon/Mercury), the problem of managing them and, importantly, the difficulties one can encounter when attachements are made to mail by various methods rather than by a standard. I could go on, but I'm sure the scenario is one you've seen many times... Perhaps you are aware of some papers on the matter? Thanks...I look forward to your response. Ken Brown internet: kbrown@trentu.ca Trent University Computing & Telecommunications tel: (705)748-1540 Peterborough, Ontario, Canada, K9J 7B8 fax: (705)748-1635 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 29 08:10:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22926; Fri, 29 Apr 94 08:10:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14047; Fri, 29 Apr 94 07:51:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from duke.usask.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14041; Fri, 29 Apr 94 07:51:11 -0700 Received: by duke.usask.ca; id AA14951; Fri, 29 Apr 1994 08:50:48 -0600 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 08:50:46 -0600 (CST) From: "Darryl Friesen (4758)" Subject: Re: Q: Why use pine (looking for justification) (fwd) To: Ken Brown Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Ken Brown In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Ergo, we're faced with > the problems outlined in the document describing imap vs. pop - and CTS > would like to provide a reliable and manageable solution for VMS, UNIX, > PC and MAC users. My suspicion is that this is a problem faced by all (educational) institutions with user bases on a variety of different platforms. > Having read the docs and just installed PC Pine (of course imapd on UNIX) > I'm of the opinion that imap clients are the way to go... That's the decision we made. Computing Services here at the UofS spawned a small commitee to look into e-mail solutions. They released a report a few weeks ago, which I beleive is on our gopher server and available to poeple outside the UofS (I can't say for certain though). The short version is that imap is good, and Pine is good, and if you can't use Pine, use another imap client. Here's their recomendations on a platform basis: Macintosh: Mailstrom DOS: PC-Pine Windows: ECS-Mail Unix chatacter cell: Pine VMS character cell: None (although this was before PMDF came with VMS Pine) I you want to have a look at the documents, which cover oather products testes, selection criteria etc etc, try either our gopher server, gopher.usask.ca, in the Computing directory, or our web server, http://www.usask.ca/ (there is a link here to the gopher server). > Thanks...I look forward to your response. Hope this helps - Darryl ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Darryl Friesen, Client Services Darryl.Friesen@usask.ca Department of Computing Services University of Saskatchewan My AMAZING Web Page ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "You, you were talking 'bout the end of the world" (U2) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 30 07:18:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21200; Sat, 30 Apr 94 07:18:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09853; Sat, 30 Apr 94 07:07:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from eskimo.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09847; Sat, 30 Apr 94 07:07:49 -0700 Received: by eskimo.com (5.65c/1.35) id AA07350; Sat, 30 Apr 1994 07:07:40 -0700 Date: Sat, 30 Apr 1994 07:07:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Putnam Barber Subject: Editing Headers To: PINE mailing list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Perhaps someone can help this friend of mine. I don't think he reads pine-info, so replies need to be by mail to be useful to him. Thanks for any suggestions you can make. Putnam Barber Seattle >Newsgroups: lobby >Path: eskimo!deamar >From: deamar@eskimo.com (Dean Martineau) >Subject: editing mail header lines >Message-ID: >Summary: how to change from, reply-to lines >Sender: deamar@eskimo.com >Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever >Distribution: usa >Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 17:21:56 GMT I co-moderate a mailing list. I receive messages, approve them, then want to send them on to an alias which gets them out to the whole list. While I'm at it, I want to edit the lines in the header so the message appears to come from the original poster, and to direct replies automatically to the original poster. Pine doesn't give you access to those lines, I don't even know how to edit them with the Mail program. What tool can be used to edit those lines in an outgoing message? dean martineau deamar@eskimo.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 30 09:17:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22119; Sat, 30 Apr 94 09:17:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11327; Sat, 30 Apr 94 09:01:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11321; Sat, 30 Apr 94 09:01:53 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA14963; Sat, 30 Apr 94 12:02:10 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA20679; Sat, 30 Apr 94 12:02:10 -0400 Date: Sat, 30 Apr 1994 12:02:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: Problem compiling pine on Solaris 2.3 To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have successfully ported pine to HP-UX 8.0 on an HP 400 box, and SunOS 4.1.2 on a SUN 630mp. I am now trying to port to Solaris 2.3, but have received the errors shown below my signature. If anyone could help me figure out what I should do next (not being a programmer, but having some C knowledge) I would be very grateful. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "A job ain't nothing but work" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Mo Money ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Script started on Sat Apr 30 11:47:12 1994manilla:.../src/pine3.89# build sol build: not found manilla:.../src/pine3.89# ./build sol make args are "CC=cc" Making c-client library and mtest rm -f osdep.h ln os_sv4.h osdep.h cc -g -Dconst= -c mtest.c cc -g -Dconst= -c mail.c "mail.c", line 1142: warning: semantics of "<" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast cc -g -Dconst= -c bezerk.c "bezerk.c", line 1055: warning: argument #1 is incompatible with prototype: prototype: pointer to long : "/usr/include/time.h", line 68 argument : pointer to ulong "bezerk.c", line 2265: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast cc -g -Dconst= -c tenex2.c "tenex2.c", line 1966: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast cc -g -Dconst= -c mbox.c cc -g -Dconst= -c mh.c "mh.c", line 1355: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast cc -g -Dconst= -c imap2.c cc -g -Dconst= -c news.c "news.c", line 1550: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast cc -g -Dconst= -c nntpclient.c "nntpclient.c", line 1524: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast cc -g -Dconst= -c phile.c "phile.c", line 1256: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast cc -g -Dconst= -c dummy.c cc -g -Dconst= -c smtp.c cc -g -Dconst= -c nntp.c cc -g -Dconst= -c rfc822.c cc -g -Dconst= -c misc.c cc -g -Dconst= -DRSH=\"rsh\" -DRSHPATH=\"/usr/bin/rsh\" -c os_sv4.c "os_sv4.c", line 294: warning: semantics of "<" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast mv os_sv4.o osdep.o cc -g -Dconst= -c sm_unix.c rm -f c-client.a ar rc c-client.a mail.o bezerk.o tenex2.o mbox.o mh.o imap2.o news.o \ nntpclient.o phile.o dummy.o smtp.o nntp.o rfc822.o misc.o osdep.o \ sm_unix.o echo -g -Dconst= > CFLAGS echo -lsocket -lnsl -lgen > LDFLAGS cc -g -Dconst= -o mtest mtest.o c-client.a -lsocket -lnsl -lgen Making Imapd cd ../c-client;make `mtest' is up to date. cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -c imapd.c "imapd.c", line 880: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o imapd imapd.o ../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS` Making Pico rm -f osdep.c cp os_unix.c osdep.c rm -f osdep.h cp os_unix.h osdep.h cc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -O attach.c "attach.c", line 246: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "attach.c", line 258: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "attach.c", line 271: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "attach.c", line 864: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast cc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -O ansi.c cc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -O basic.c cc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -O bind.c cc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -O browse.c "browse.c", line 1572: warning: semantics of "/" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast cc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -O buffer.c cc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -O composer.c "composer.c", line 690: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "composer.c", line 714: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "composer.c", line 963: warning: semantics of ">=" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "composer.c", line 1084: warning: semantics of ">=" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "composer.c", line 1233: warning: semantics of "<" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "composer.c", line 1380: warning: semantics of ">=" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast cc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -O display.c "display.c", line 947: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "display.c", line 949: warning: semantics of ">=" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "display.c", line 960: warning: semantics of "/" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "display.c", line 974: warning: semantics of "/" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "display.c", line 998: warning: semantics of "<" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "display.c", line 1283: warning: semantics of ">=" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast cc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -O file.c cc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -O fileio.c cc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -O line.c cc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -O osdep.c "osdep.c", line 1100: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "osdep.c", line 1125: warning: semantics of "<=" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "osdep.c", line 1503: warning: argument #2 is incompatible with prototype: prototype: pointer to function(int) returning void : "/usr/include/signal.h", line 64 argument : pointer to function(void) returning void cc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -O pico.c cc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -O random.c cc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -O region.c cc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -O search.c cc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -O spell.c cc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -O tinfo.c cc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -O window.c cc -c -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -O word.c ar ru libpico.a attach.o ansi.o basic.o bind.o browse.o buffer.o composer.o display.o file.o fileio.o line.o osdep.o pico.o random.o region.o search.o spell.o tinfo.o window.o word.o ar: creating libpico.a true libpico.a cc5.sol -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL main.c libpico.a -ltermlib -o pico sh: cc5.sol: not found *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `pico' Making Pine. rm -f os.h ln -s osdep/os-sv4.h os.h ./cmplhlp2.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.h cc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -c addrbook.c "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 171: identifier redeclared: rename current : function(pointer to char, pointer to char) returning int previous: function(pointer to const char, pointer to const char) returning int : "/usr/include/stdio.h", line 112 "addrbook.c", line 200: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "addrbook.c", line 204: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "addrbook.c", line 1349: cannot recover from previous errors cc: acomp failed for addrbook.c *** Error code 2 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `addrbook.o' Links to executables are in bin directory: size: bin/pine: cannot open bin/mtest: 384248 + 19976 + 1368 = 405592 bin/imapd: 375080 + 20368 + 9340 = 404788 size: bin/pico: cannot open Done manilla:.../src/pine3.89# ^D script done on Sat Apr 30 11:51:32 1994 script done on Sat Apr 30 11:51:32 1994 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 30 13:13:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24032; Sat, 30 Apr 94 13:13:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14698; Sat, 30 Apr 94 13:03:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from recycle.snre.umich.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14692; Sat, 30 Apr 94 13:03:55 -0700 Received: by snre.umich.edu (8.6.8.1/2.2) id QAA09035; Sat, 30 Apr 1994 16:03:50 -0400 Date: Sat, 30 Apr 1994 16:03:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Tang Reply-To: Alex Tang Subject: Re: pine documentation To: Gerhard Winkler Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <199404280835.AA08871@phoenix.cc.univie.ac.at> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Thu, 28 Apr 1994, Gerhard Winkler wrote: > I can remember a Pine documentation in PostScript format > I printed in november 1993. > I lost the pointer to it. > Does someone know where to get it ... ? I don't know which one you're talking about, but I have some if you want to take a look. they're in ftp.snre.umich.edu:/pub/pine/documentation/pine.internet.doc.Hqx (this is a mac MS Word 5.1 doc) and: ftp.snre.umich.edu:/pub/pine/documentation/pine.internet.doc.ps (a ps version of the same doc). hope that this helps. ...alex...