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I am using PCPine 4.4 on my computer.  I want to use Netscape to
activate URLs.  Although the path for netscape.exe is listed in my
configuration, Pine insists on loading Explore, but does not insert
the URL.  I have to copy/paste the URL into the location bar.

Any suggestions on how to get the URL to pop up in Netscape and find
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Has anyone ever tried to include a body of a message as html from the
command line?  Using a sending-filter like one on this list a while
back: 

sending-filters=/<pathToExecutable>/mime_types _TMPFILE_ _MIMETYPE_

Where: mime_types is:

#!/bin/sh
echo "Content-Type:text/html" > $2

That works fine from within perl's gui, but say if you use:

pine -I '^X,y' -subject 'the subject line' -attach myfile.ps <
messageBody.html 

with the outgoing.patch, it doesn't pay attention to any of the settings
you've setup (just sending the messageBody as plain text (TEXT/PLAIN).
Then if you remove the " -I '^X,y' ", and it brings you into pine's gui,
you hit ^X,y and it works fine!  Sending the redirected input fine!
It's a crazy thing and I don't know if anyone will understand what I'm
getting at, but its worth a try.  Also, I've found that you can do it
inline iff you use '-attach messageBody.html', w/o any additional
attachments or redirected message body's.  Then the option header shows
the correct text/html.  Has anyone ever successfully done this, is there
another way of going about this..perhaps a way of specifying each
individual attachment's type in-line (via the command line).  I'd like
to be able to make a doc in html, have it look decent with an additional
attachment included.  Ideally, it would be cool to use inline display of
an html attachment, but I know some people frown on that sort of thing.
The pine version I'm using is pine 4.44 with all.patch compiled in.  

Thanks





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Our new system administrator just completed upgrading SSH, along
with upgrading openssl.  Since then, I can only get to my mail server
in a non-secure mode using PC-Pine.

Any suggestions?

Other applications using SSH appear to work correctly.

 -- Steve Lowe
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Steve,
The new SSHD was compiled using openssl-0.9.6e.

Dave

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Hi Kyle,

    Sorry I couldnt send mail to you directly cause I dont have the digital
ID. Thanks a lot for your information. I already download the patch file for
Pine version 4.20. Anyway, we need to compile Pine in order to apply the
patch. Can you tell me how to compile Pine? Besides that, do you know
normally where is the source code of Pine stored ? Thank you very much.

Regards,
Lim


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Hey Lim,

Yeah, there is.  You need to install the outgoing.patch .  You can get it
from http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/. It is called "Pine sends
e-mail from the command line".  You can follow the instructions on that page
to find out how to use it.  If ya need any pointers, let me know.  Thanks.

~Kyle




























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Subject: Pine and multi NNTP servers
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Hello,

There are few question which still bothering me about News and Pine.

1) The first is about multi NNTP servers and way how the pine uses them to
send a post to the news groups.

The problem occurs when I try to post a message to the one NNTP server from one
news collection defined like this:

    NEWS - SONY
        News groups on news.sonytel.be/nntp

    NEWS - Arch Pan (Wroc³aw)
        News groups on news.arch.pan.wroc.pl/nntp/user=murphy

Then normal reaction is to set both NNTP severs to the "nntp-server" field in
the SETUP CONFIGURATION screen, but this solution doesn't work so nice because
it try to send a message using each news server from the specified list as long
as it find the correct one.

I think the Pine should take the server name from a collection definition list,
not from "nntp-server" list in case when the server is not defined in the
"nntp-server" or there is more nntp servers defined in the collection list.

2) The second issue is a problem when the different NNTP servers contains this
same news group names.

In this case there is no way to define some role which will explicitly
recognise which NNTP server to use to send a post to the news groups.

Using the previous collection definition, where each one can contain a group
named "alt.news", posting to the group we have only the "alt.news" in the
"Newsgrps:" header field and no info about which NNTP server will be used to
send this message.

There is also no rule to NNTP servers, either in a pure Pine 4.44 or patched
version.

3) There is no way to refresh and automatically download a new posted messages
from a opened newsgroup message index. Shortcut CTRL+L doesn't work for this
screen. Only opening the another folder and go back to the newsgroup window
can help this or closing a Pine and open it again.

Assuming: Looks like a Pine at this moment is not able to fully handle a
newsgroups trough a NNTP servers.

Regards,
Murphy

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Hi. I already downloaded the latest Pine version 4.44 source code, which is
contained in the pine.tar.Z. Can anyone tell me how to recompile Pine
program and install it and apply patch for it from the pine.tar.Z file?

Currently I am using Pine 4.20. I also downloaded a patch file in order to
make Pine can send mail from command line. According to Pine web site, to
apply the patch, we need to compile Pine first, then apply the patch and
then compile again. How to compile Pine? Where is the source code?

Patch Pine 4.20 or install Pine 4.44, which one is easier and safer?

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Halo Kyle,
        I am using Turbo Linux as my server OS. I downloaded the file named
"pine.tar.Z". If we compile the new PINE, it wont affect other program in my
server rite? If compilation failed, can I still use back the old PINE (the
one I use currently) ? Thank you.

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Hi, I just downloaded the lastest PINE source code from PINE website. The file
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Hi.  I just try to compile Pine 4.44 but it failed. I am using the Turbo
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Is it because the target platform? I am using Pine 4.20 currently. I copied
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Thank you very much.

Regards,
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Hi.  I just try to compile Pine 4.44 but it failed. I am using the Turbo
Linux 6.0.5 as my OS. Follow listed the step when I compiled Pine 4.44 :
1) ./build clean
2) ./build lnx

Is it because the target platform? I am using Pine 4.20 currently. I copied
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Anyone who know how to solve this problem please reply to me.

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make args are CC=3Dcc  lnx

Making c-client library, imapd, and ipopd
eval make CC=3Dcc SPECIALS=3D lnx
make[1]: Entering directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap'
make[1]: `lnxok' is up to date.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap'
Applying an process to sources...
tools/an "ln -s" src/c-client c-client
tools/an "ln -s" src/ansilib c-client
tools/an "ln -s" src/charset c-client
tools/an "ln -s" src/osdep/unix c-client
tools/an "ln -s" src/mtest mtest
tools/an "ln -s" src/ipopd ipopd
tools/an "ln -s" src/imapd imapd
ln -s tools/an .
make build EXTRACFLAGS=3D'' EXTRALDFLAGS=3D'' EXTRADRIVERS=3D'mbox' =
EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS=3D'' PASSWDTYPE=3Dstd SSLTYPE=3Dnone =
EXTRASPECIALS=3D'' BUILDTYPE=3Dlnx
make[1]: Entering directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap'
Building c-client for lnx...
echo `cat SPECIALS`  > c-client/SPECIALS
cd c-client;make lnx EXTRACFLAGS=3D''\
 EXTRALDFLAGS=3D''\
 EXTRADRIVERS=3D'mbox'\
 EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS=3D''\
 PASSWDTYPE=3Dstd SSLTYPE=3Dnone\

make[2]: Entering directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap/c-client'
You are building for traditional Linux *without* shadow
passwords and with the crypt function in the C library.
If your system has shadow passwords, or if crypt is not
in the C library, you must use slx, sl4, or sl5 instead!
make build EXTRACFLAGS=3D'' EXTRALDFLAGS=3D'' EXTRADRIVERS=3D'mbox' =
EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS=3D'' PASSWDTYPE=3Dstd SSLTYPE=3Dnone `cat SPECIALS` =
OS=3Dlnx \
 SIGTYPE=3Dpsx CRXTYPE=3Dnfs \
 SPOOLDIR=3D/var/spool \
 ACTIVEFILE=3D/var/lib/news/active \
 RSHPATH=3D/usr/bin/rsh \
 BASECFLAGS=3D"-g -O"
make[3]: Entering directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap/c-client'
sh -c 'rm -rf auths.c crexcl.c nfstest.c linkage.[ch] siglocal.c =
osdep*.[ch] *.o ARCHIVE *FLAGS *TYPE c-client.a || true'
Once-only environment setup...
echo cc > CCTYPE
echo -g -O '' > CFLAGS
echo -DCREATEPROTO=3Dunixproto -DEMPTYPROTO=3Dunixproto \
 -DMAILSPOOL=3D\"/var/spool/mail\" \
 -DANONYMOUSHOME=3D\"/var/spool/mail/anonymous\" \
 -DACTIVEFILE=3D\"/var/lib/news/active\" =
-DNEWSSPOOL=3D\"/var/spool/news\" \
 -DRSHPATH=3D\"/usr/bin/rsh\" -DLOCKPGM=3D\"/etc/mlock\" > OSCFLAGS
echo   > LDFLAGS
echo "ar rc c-client.a mail.o misc.o newsrc.o smanager.o osdep.o utf8.o =
siglocal.o dummy.o pseudo.o netmsg.o flstring.o fdstring.o rfc822.o =
nntp.o smtp.o imap4r1.o pop3.o unix.o mbox.o mbx.o mmdf.o tenex.o mtx.o =
news.o phile.o mh.o mx.o;ranlib c-client.a" > ARCHIVE
./drivers mbox imap nntp pop3 mh mx mbx tenex mtx mmdf unix news phile =
dummy
./mkauths  md5 pla log
make[4]: Entering directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap/c-client'
echo -DMD5ENABLE=3D\"/etc/cram-md5.pwd\" >> OSCFLAGS
make[4]: Leaving directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap/c-client'
ln -s os_lnx.h osdep.h
ln -s os_lnx.c osdepbas.c
ln -s log_std.c osdeplog.c
ln -s sig_psx.c siglocal.c
ln -s crx_nfs.c crexcl.c
sh -c '(test -f /usr/include/sys/statvfs.h -a lnx !=3D sc5 -a lnx !=3D =
sco) && ln -s nfstnew.c nfstest.c || ln -s nfstold.c nfstest.c'
Standard password authentication
ln -s ckp_std.c osdepckp.c
Building without SSL support
ln -s ssl_none.c osdepssl.c
cat osdepbas.c osdepckp.c osdeplog.c osdepssl.c > osdep.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mail.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` misc.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` newsrc.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` smanager.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` `cat OSCFLAGS` -c osdep.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` utf8.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` siglocal.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` dummy.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` pseudo.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` netmsg.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` flstring.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` fdstring.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` rfc822.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` nntp.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` smtp.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` imap4r1.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` pop3.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` unix.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mbox.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mbx.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mmdf.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` tenex.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mtx.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` news.c
news.c: In function `news_open':
news.c:300: warning: passing arg 3 of `scandir' from incompatible =
pointer type
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` phile.c
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mh.c
mh.c: In function `mh_ping':
mh.c:639: warning: passing arg 3 of `scandir' from incompatible pointer =
type
mh.c: In function `mh_append':
mh.c:896: warning: passing arg 3 of `scandir' from incompatible pointer =
type
`cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mx.c
mx.c: In function `mx_ping':
mx.c:582: warning: passing arg 3 of `scandir' from incompatible pointer =
type
sh -c 'rm -rf c-client.a || true'
ar rc c-client.a mail.o misc.o newsrc.o smanager.o osdep.o utf8.o =
siglocal.o dummy.o pseudo.o netmsg.o flstring.o fdstring.o rfc822.o =
nntp.o smtp.o imap4r1.o pop3.o unix.o mbox.o mbx.o mmdf.o tenex.o mtx.o =
news.o phile.o mh.o mx.o;ranlib c-client.a
make[3]: Leaving directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap/c-client'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap/c-client'
echo lnx > OSTYPE
touch rebuild
sh -c 'rm -rf rebuild || true'
Building bundled tools...
cd mtest;make
make[2]: Entering directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap/mtest'
cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS`   -c -o mtest.o mtest.c
cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o mtest mtest.o =
../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS`
mtest.o: In function `prompt':
/calc/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap/mtest/mtest.c:517: the `gets' function is =
dangerous and should not be used.
../c-client/c-client.a(osdep.o): In function `checkpw':
/calc/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap/c-client/osdep.c:77: undefined reference to =
`crypt'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [mtest] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap/mtest'
make[1]: *** [bundled] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap'
make: *** [lnx] Error 2

Making Pico and Pilot
make CC=3Dcc -f makefile.lnx
rm -f os.h
ln -s osdep/os-lnx.h os.h
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o main.o =
main.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o attach.o =
attach.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o basic.o =
basic.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o bind.o =
bind.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o browse.o =
browse.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o buffer.o =
buffer.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o composer.o =
composer.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o display.o =
display.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o file.o =
file.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o fileio.o =
fileio.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o line.o =
line.c
cd osdep; make includer os-lnx.c; cd ..
make[1]: Entering directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/pico/osdep'
cc -o includer includer.c
./includer < os-lnx.ic > os-lnx.c
make[1]: Leaving directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/pico/osdep'
rm -f pico_os.c
ln -s osdep/os-lnx.c pico_os.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o pico_os.o =
pico_os.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o pico.o =
pico.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o random.o =
random.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o region.o =
region.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o search.o =
search.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o window.o =
window.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE   -c -o word.o =
word.c
ar ru libpico.a attach.o basic.o bind.o browse.o buffer.o composer.o =
display.o file.o fileio.o line.o pico_os.o pico.o random.o region.o =
search.o window.o word.o
ranlib libpico.a
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dlnx -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE main.o libpico.a  =
-lncurses -o pico
/usr/bin/ld: cannot open -lncurses: No such file or directory
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [pico] Error 1

Making Pine and rpload/rpdump.
make CC=3Dcc -f makefile.lnx
rm -f os.h
ln -s osdep/os-lnx.h os.h
./cmplhlp2.sh  < pine.hlp > helptext.h
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o addrbook.o =
addrbook.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o adrbkcmd.o =
adrbkcmd.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o adrbklib.o =
adrbklib.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o args.o =
args.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o bldaddr.o =
bldaddr.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o context.o =
context.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o filter.o =
filter.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o folder.o =
folder.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o help.o =
help.c
./cmplhelp.sh  < pine.hlp > helptext.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o helptext.o =
helptext.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o imap.o =
imap.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o init.o =
init.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o mailcap.o =
mailcap.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o mailcmd.o =
mailcmd.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o mailindx.o =
mailindx.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o mailpart.o =
mailpart.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o mailview.o =
mailview.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o newmail.o =
newmail.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o other.o =
other.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o pine.o =
pine.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o reply.o =
reply.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o screen.o =
screen.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o send.o =
send.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o signals.o =
signals.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o status.o =
status.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o strings.o =
strings.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o takeaddr.o =
takeaddr.c
cd osdep; make includer os-lnx.c; cd ..
make[1]: Entering directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/pine/osdep'
cc -o includer includer.c
./includer < os-lnx.ic > os-lnx.c
make[1]: Leaving directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/pine/osdep'
rm -f os.c
ln -s osdep/os-lnx.c os.c
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE   -c -o os.o os.c
echo "char datestamp[]=3D"\"`date`\"";" > date.c
echo "char hoststamp[]=3D"\"`hostname`\"";" >> date.c
cc    -g -DDEBUG   -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=3D\"LNX\" -DMOUSE -o pine addrbook.o =
adrbkcmd.o adrbklib.o args.o bldaddr.o context.o filter.o folder.o =
help.o helptext.o imap.o init.o mailcap.o mailcmd.o mailindx.o =
mailpart.o mailview.o newmail.o other.o pine.o reply.o screen.o send.o =
signals.o status.o strings.o takeaddr.o os.o date.c ../pico/libpico.a =
../c-client/c-client.a  -lncurses `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS`
/usr/bin/ld: cannot open -lncurses: No such file or directory
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [pine] Error 1

Links to executables are in bin directory:
size: bin/pine: No such file or directory
size: bin/mtest: No such file or directory
size: bin/imapd: No such file or directory
size: bin/pico: No such file or directory
size: bin/pilot: No such file or directory
size: bin/rpdump: No such file or directory
size: bin/rpload: No such file or directory
size: bin/ipop2d: No such file or directory
size: bin/ipop3d: No such file or directory
Done


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> Hi.  I just try to compile Pine 4.44 but it failed. I am using the Turbo
> Linux 6.0.5 as my OS. Follow listed the step when I compiled Pine 4.44 :
> 1) ./build clean
> 2) ./build lnx
>
> Is it because the target platform? I am using Pine 4.20 currently. I copied
> down the message displayed while I compiled Pine 4.44( see attachment).
> Anyone who know how to solve this problem please reply to me.

I don't believe attachments survive the distribution list SW.  Best to cut'n
paste.

Have you tried Linux platforms other than "lnx"?

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On Aug 8, 2002 at 15:03, Lim Eng Keong wrote:

>Hi.  I just try to compile Pine 4.44 but it failed. I am using the Turbo
>Linux 6.0.5 as my OS. Follow listed the step when I compiled Pine 4.44 :
>1) ./build clean
>2) ./build lnx

You don't have ncurses. You don't have crypt(). I don't know where
you'd get crypt.

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> Is it because the target platform? I am using Pine 4.20 currently. I copied
> down the message displayed while I compiled Pine 4.44( see attachment).
> Anyone who know how to solve this problem please reply to me.

When you read the attachment you sent you see the following statement...

make[2]: Entering directory `/calc_pkg/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap/c-client'
You are building for traditional Linux *without* shadow
passwords and with the crypt function in the C library.
If your system has shadow passwords, or if crypt is not
in the C library, you must use slx, sl4, or sl5 instead!

And then later in the attempt to build you see...

/calc/dmp/dmp/pine4.44/imap/c-client/osdep.c:77: undefined reference to
`crypt'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [mtest] Error 1

Hummm...do you see a pattern starting to develop?

Ed


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PINE 4.44 (and possibly older versions) seems to have problems 
with German umlauts being used.  The full bug details are 
available in Red Hat bugzilla at:

http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=70518

Is anyone aware of a bugfix for this problem?


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On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Michael Talbot-Wilson wrote:

>Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 17:49:52 +0930 (CST)
>From: Michael Talbot-Wilson <mtw@birdseye.view.net.au>
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>At 2002-08-08 04:14 -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote:
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>> PINE 4.44 (and possibly older versions) seems to have problems
>> with German umlauts being used.  The full bug details are
>> available in Red Hat bugzilla at:
>
>Whät kind of pröblëms?

The ones in the bug report referenced in my original email.


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Hey there pine folks,

I emailed this a few months ago, then forgot about it (there was no
discussion about it).  But I just noticed this behavior again, and if a
new version of pine is happening, this might be an easy thing to fix.

Joel

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Hey,

This may or may not be a bug -- I'v replicated it as far back as 4.33, so
I figure someone would've found it by now.

But, when I open my inbox (or any mailbox, for that matter), hit 'b' on a
message that has the 'new' flag set, then ^C (cancel), the 'new' flag is
unset, and the message is no longer flagged as new.

Is this the expected behavior?  A quick search of the archive reveals no
previous report of this.

For the record:

Redhat 7.1
Pine 4.44 (patched, but replicated with clean builds of everything back to
4.33; versions past that not tested)
courier-imap mail server (version available if necessary)

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Hi folks,

I have a pb: in our organization (unfortunately like in=20
most of them), the mail is managed via MS Exchange server.
I want to use PCPine as email client and it works fine
to READ email, I have no pb.
When I want to send an email to someone WITHIN the
coporate, it works also fine (I use the exchange server
as the SMTP server)
BUT when I want to send a mail outside, that doesn't work,
the exchange server is configure to not accept SMTP requests
to outside email addresses :-(((

my admins want me to use lookout HUGHH!

does anyone knows any kind of "local SMTP" server that will
be able to talk with exchange using the same protocol
than lookout so that I can configure pine to use the local SMTP
which will relay to exchange ????

	pcpine ----> local "smtp proxy" ----> MS EXCHANGE

thanks a lot/Bertrand
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Hi! 

Sometimes my inbox gets set to READONLY because of me reading my mail 
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All of a sudden things are happening that have never happened before (pine
4.33/pop3): If something happens during the pine session [(1) can't login,
waiting for response from server - manually disconnect session; (2) while
logged in Mailbox closed due to access error] then on the next attempt to
run pine I can't login: "Mailbox closed by a pop3 session". There is
nothing I can do on the unix shell (no pine session still running I could
kill). It's happened twice so far, the first time I could log in after 5
minutes (new mail had been delivered in the meantime - maybe that was the
problem) - right now I have waited 10 minutes and still can't log in.

If anything like this has happened in the past, I could always get right
back into pine by simply quitting and starting over. The only time I
haven't been able to do that is if there is still a pine session running
as a ghost which I could see with the command "ps" and then kill and log
right back on.

I think something has happened on the pop3 side, but what?

(Even if I telnet directly to the popper the same thing happens: can't get
in, "mailbox locked by other server")

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks

Bruce Cohen




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This has happened to me with imap when the server-side process didn't
die, and held onto the mailbox lock.  I bet if you go onto the mail
server, you will find your pop3d process still running.  New mail never
got delivered for me, because the server-side process still had the
lock.  But maybe with the way you lock, new mail was enough to knock
your pop3d process out of its reverie and make it quit.  Killing the
offending pop3d process should fix it though.  (Remove any ".lock" files
too, if you're using that style of locking.)

Not sure what the ultimate cause of that was though.  The problem went
away in our last server upgrade, and I don't recall if we ever figured
out why the server processes were hanging.

Todd

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All of a sudden things are happening that have never happened before
(pine
4.33/pop3): If something happens during the pine session [(1) can't
login, waiting for response from server - manually disconnect session;
(2) while logged in Mailbox closed due to access error] then on the next
attempt to run pine I can't login: "Mailbox closed by a pop3 session".
There is nothing I can do on the unix shell (no pine session still
running I could kill). It's happened twice so far, the first time I
could log in after 5 minutes (new mail had been delivered in the
meantime - maybe that was the
problem) - right now I have waited 10 minutes and still can't log in.

If anything like this has happened in the past, I could always get right
back into pine by simply quitting and starting over. The only time I
haven't been able to do that is if there is still a pine session running
as a ghost which I could see with the command "ps" and then kill and log
right back on.

I think something has happened on the pop3 side, but what?

(Even if I telnet directly to the popper the same thing happens: can't
get in, "mailbox locked by other server")

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks

Bruce Cohen




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Problem is I can't kill anything - and I can't logon to the popper
either - tried telnetting there - same story. At least I can't by
telnetting to port 110 and logging in with USER and PASS: the lock
applies there also. Is there a way to just telnet there and see what
processes are running? I suppose I could kill it if I could find it
since I am the owner. My knowledge of the popper commands is very
limited, however, I believe I only know USER, PASS, LIST, DELE (or at
least that's all I remember). Is there any documentation to be found on
this?

Sending mail to myself does seem to help, albeit not immediately - at
least at some point within the next half hour I can get back on again - so
at some point it manages to get unlocked.

 Bruce

On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, Sobocinski, Todd wrote:

> This has happened to me with imap when the server-side process didn't
> die, and held onto the mailbox lock.  I bet if you go onto the mail
> server, you will find your pop3d process still running.  New mail never
> got delivered for me, because the server-side process still had the
> lock.  But maybe with the way you lock, new mail was enough to knock
> your pop3d process out of its reverie and make it quit.  Killing the
> offending pop3d process should fix it though.  (Remove any ".lock" files
> too, if you're using that style of locking.)
>
> Not sure what the ultimate cause of that was though.  The problem went
> away in our last server upgrade, and I don't recall if we ever figured
> out why the server processes were hanging.
>
> Todd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Cohen [mailto:cohenb@worldonline.nl]
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 3:03 AM
> To: Pine Discussion Forum
> Subject: mailbox locked by other session
>
>
>
> All of a sudden things are happening that have never happened before
> (pine
> 4.33/pop3): If something happens during the pine session [(1) can't
> login, waiting for response from server - manually disconnect session;
> (2) while logged in Mailbox closed due to access error] then on the next
> attempt to run pine I can't login: "Mailbox closed by a pop3 session".
> There is nothing I can do on the unix shell (no pine session still
> running I could kill). It's happened twice so far, the first time I
> could log in after 5 minutes (new mail had been delivered in the
> meantime - maybe that was the
> problem) - right now I have waited 10 minutes and still can't log in.
>
> If anything like this has happened in the past, I could always get right
> back into pine by simply quitting and starting over. The only time I
> haven't been able to do that is if there is still a pine session running
> as a ghost which I could see with the command "ps" and then kill and log
> right back on.
>
> I think something has happened on the pop3 side, but what?
>
> (Even if I telnet directly to the popper the same thing happens: can't
> get in, "mailbox locked by other server")
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Bruce Cohen
>
>
>
>
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On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, Sobocinski, Todd wrote:

> I would get a shell on the mail server and kill the offending processes.
> Obviously, that requires a shell account on the server.

	And if you're willing to change providers to get a shell,
Nancy McGough has a list on her site.

	Anybody happen to know which of those is good about keeping
its pine reasonably up to date?

	Also, even among ISP's that offer shell accounts, so-called
national availability may mean less than meets the eye. Speakeasy
claims it, for instance -- but its only "local" dialup in area code
540 is in Fredericksburg, just south of DC, although that area
extends to the opposite end of Virginia.

-- 
Beartooth the Stubborn <karhunhammas (at) lserv.com>, double retiree,
linux hatchling w/ RH 7.2; ssh'd (DSL) to pine 4.43 on ISP's SunOS 5.8;
Opera 6.02, Pan 0.11.2, Galeon 1.2.5, & Mozilla 1.0
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From: "Sobocinski, Todd" <tsobo@engin.umich.edu>
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I would get a shell on the mail server and kill the offending processes.
Obviously, that requires a shell account on the server.  I'm not aware
of any documentation, but I didn't look too hard either.  It wasn't my
primary responsibility at the time, and the problem was fixed on
upgrade.

It is entirely possible it is a different problem too, since my problem
was with imap.

Todd

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Cohen [mailto:cohenb@worldonline.nl]=20
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 1:38 PM
To: Sobocinski, Todd
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Subject: RE: mailbox locked by other session



Problem is I can't kill anything - and I can't logon to the popper
either - tried telnetting there - same story. At least I can't by
telnetting to port 110 and logging in with USER and PASS: the lock
applies there also. Is there a way to just telnet there and see what
processes are running? I suppose I could kill it if I could find it
since I am the owner. My knowledge of the popper commands is very
limited, however, I believe I only know USER, PASS, LIST, DELE (or at
least that's all I remember). Is there any documentation to be found on
this?

Sending mail to myself does seem to help, albeit not immediately - at
least at some point within the next half hour I can get back on again -
so at some point it manages to get unlocked.

 Bruce

On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, Sobocinski, Todd wrote:

> This has happened to me with imap when the server-side process didn't=20
> die, and held onto the mailbox lock.  I bet if you go onto the mail=20
> server, you will find your pop3d process still running.  New mail=20
> never got delivered for me, because the server-side process still had=20
> the lock.  But maybe with the way you lock, new mail was enough to=20
> knock your pop3d process out of its reverie and make it quit.  Killing

> the offending pop3d process should fix it though.  (Remove any ".lock"

> files too, if you're using that style of locking.)
>
> Not sure what the ultimate cause of that was though.  The problem went

> away in our last server upgrade, and I don't recall if we ever figured

> out why the server processes were hanging.
>
> Todd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Cohen [mailto:cohenb@worldonline.nl]
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 3:03 AM
> To: Pine Discussion Forum
> Subject: mailbox locked by other session
>
>
>
> All of a sudden things are happening that have never happened before=20
> (pine
> 4.33/pop3): If something happens during the pine session [(1) can't=20
> login, waiting for response from server - manually disconnect session;
> (2) while logged in Mailbox closed due to access error] then on the=20
> next attempt to run pine I can't login: "Mailbox closed by a pop3=20
> session". There is nothing I can do on the unix shell (no pine session

> still running I could kill). It's happened twice so far, the first=20
> time I could log in after 5 minutes (new mail had been delivered in=20
> the meantime - maybe that was the
> problem) - right now I have waited 10 minutes and still can't log in.
>
> If anything like this has happened in the past, I could always get=20
> right back into pine by simply quitting and starting over. The only=20
> time I haven't been able to do that is if there is still a pine=20
> session running as a ghost which I could see with the command "ps" and

> then kill and log right back on.
>
> I think something has happened on the pop3 side, but what?
>
> (Even if I telnet directly to the popper the same thing happens: can't

> get in, "mailbox locked by other server")
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Bruce Cohen
>
>
>
>
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Since 1997 I have successfully used aggregate command to export multiple
messages from binary news groups.  Well, now many in usenet are encoding with
yenc.  I understand yenc files are 8-bit.  Well, so far after exporting all the
sections to a file on my unix shell, I download them with the ftp program in a
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So I wondered if there were a conversion that Pine does on files like this
which would make them worthless?  I know nothing about saving binaries from
trn, so I am happy with pine4.44.
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Since 1997 I have successfully used aggregate command to export multiple
messages from binary news groups.  Well, now many in usenet are encoding with
yenc.  I understand yenc files are 8-bit.  Well, so far after exporting all the
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So I wondered if there were a conversion that Pine does on files like this
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Hart



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I have a shell account - and can kill any processes on the shell that
are a problem.

This is different: the process is on the server itself...

On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, Beartooth wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, Sobocinski, Todd wrote:
>
> > I would get a shell on the mail server and kill the offending processes.
> > Obviously, that requires a shell account on the server.
>
> 	And if you're willing to change providers to get a shell,
> Nancy McGough has a list on her site.
>
> 	Anybody happen to know which of those is good about keeping
> its pine reasonably up to date?
>
> 	Also, even among ISP's that offer shell accounts, so-called
> national availability may mean less than meets the eye. Speakeasy
> claims it, for instance -- but its only "local" dialup in area code
> 540 is in Fredericksburg, just south of DC, although that area
> extends to the opposite end of Virginia.
>
> --
> Beartooth the Stubborn <karhunhammas (at) lserv.com>, double retiree,
> linux hatchling w/ RH 7.2; ssh'd (DSL) to pine 4.43 on ISP's SunOS 5.8;
> Opera 6.02, Pan 0.11.2, Galeon 1.2.5, & Mozilla 1.0
> standard disclaimer : Keep in mind that I have no idea what I am talking
> about
>
>
>



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Today I came back after a week on vacation and had two problems with
pine, one on my personal acct, one on my work acct.

On the personal acct, I started up pine, and it crashed and core dumped.
I successfully started up pine again right after that..  I presume it
crashed running filters or something... since there were over 300 new
messages in this mailbox.  This is running pine 4.33 on:
% uname -a
SunOS vax 5.6 sun4u sparc

I'm using IMAP to access the account.

On my work account, I just about died thinking pine had nuked my mail.
I selected new, narrowed to select only recipients "carbon-dev".. that was
around 400 of over 1000 new messages..  saved to another folder..
I went to the other folder, verified the messages were there, went back to
INBOX.. expunged..

Then it showed my INBOX with only the FIRST message in the mailbox,
and the message at the bottom of the screen was "No more messages in folder"
or something like that.

It was in some funky state..  while still in that state, I ran pine again in
another terminal window and my mail was just fine (whew)..  I finally got the
first mail to quit, and at that point it rightfully said:
Pine finished -- Closed folder "INBOX". Kept all 2,568 messages.

This is running pine 4.44, and I'm on Mac OS X 10.2 final.  (Though I think
the pine was compiled way back on 10.1.5)

So basically -- what caused pine to get so confused in these cases?

For the crash, maybe I forget how to use core dumps, because I don't get
any symbols..  I simply did a "core core" and then 'bt'.

(gdb) bt
#0  0xef5c5c84 in ?? ()
#1  0xef5c5b14 in ?? ()
#2  0x188000 in ?? ()
#3  0x1875c4 in ?? ()
#4  0x8c980 in ?? ()
#5  0x1206a4 in ?? ()
#6  0x120bd0 in ?? ()
#7  0x120434 in ?? ()
#8  0x13deec in ?? ()
#9  0x1006bc in ?? ()
#10 0x11ebb0 in ?? ()
#11 0xef5b89e4 in ?? ()
#12 0xef5c5c1c in ?? ()
#13 0xef5c5b14 in ?? ()
#14 0x1ca4d8 in ?? ()
#15 0x1ca798 in ?? ()
#16 0x13e0c0 in ?? ()
#17 0x13e2b0 in ?? ()
#18 0x120978 in ?? ()
#19 0x11f67c in ?? ()
#20 0xef5b89e4 in ?? ()
#21 0xef5c61dc in ?? ()
#22 0xef5c6a94 in ?? ()
#23 0xef5c5c1c in ?? ()
#24 0xef5c5b14 in ?? ()
#25 0x188000 in ?? ()
#26 0x187654 in ?? ()
#27 0x17d5bc in ?? ()
#28 0x181afc in ?? ()
#29 0x181cfc in ?? ()
#30 0x181cfc in ?? ()
#31 0x17ee8c in ?? ()
#32 0x17ece4 in ?? ()
#33 0x12dff4 in ?? ()
#34 0xb6efc in ?? ()
#35 0xaa4e4 in ?? ()
#36 0xa8d08 in ?? ()
#37 0xfbc4c in ?? ()
(gdb) quit

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From: Matt Ackeret <mattack@area.com>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <pine-info@u.washington.edu>
Subject: real backtrace for the crash I reported this morning
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Basically -- I started up pine, it crashed.  I started up pine again, it
worked.  4.33 on "SunOS vax 5.6 sun4u sparc".

I remembered (or rather, guessed and was right) how to get a real backtrace
with a core file..

Dunno if this leads anybody to a useful fix..


/home/mattack % gdb /usr/local/bin/pine
GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it
 under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details.
GDB 4.16 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6),
Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc...
(gdb) core core
Core was generated by `pine'.
Program terminated with signal 10, Bus error.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libxnet.so.1...done.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libresolv.so.2...done.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libsocket.so.1...done.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libnsl.so.1...done.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc.so.1...done.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libdl.so.1...done.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libmp.so.2...done.
Reading symbols from /usr/platform/SUNW,Ultra-1/lib/libc_psr.so.1...done.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/nss_files.so.1...done.
#0  0xef5c5c84 in _malloc_unlocked ()
(gdb) bt
#0  0xef5c5c84 in _malloc_unlocked ()
#1  0xef5c5b14 in malloc ()
#2  0x188000 in fs_get (size=81) at fs_unix.c:30
#3  0x1875c4 in cpystr (
    string=0x33dc18 "{vax.area.com/user=mattack}INBOX : Message 2691 UID 8870259 greater than last 56") at misc.c:68
#4  0x8c980 in add_review_message ()
#5  0x1206a4 in status_message_write ()
#6  0x120bd0 in output_message ()
#7  0x120434 in flush_status_messages ()
#8  0x13deec in end_screen ()
#9  0x1006bc in panic ()
#10 0x11ebb0 in auger_in_signal ()
#11 <signal handler called>
#12 0xef5c5c84 in _malloc_unlocked ()
#13 0xef5c5b14 in malloc ()
#14 0x1ca4d8 in init_stack ()
#15 0x1ca798 in tparm ()
#16 0x13e0c0 in moveabsolute ()
#17 0x13e2b0 in MoveCursor ()
#18 0x120978 in status_message_write ()
#19 0x11f67c in alarm_signal ()
#20 <signal handler called>
#21 0xef5c62bc in realfree ()
#22 0xef5c6a94 in cleanfree ()
#23 0xef5c5c1c in _malloc_unlocked ()
#24 0xef5c5b14 in malloc ()
#25 0x188000 in fs_get (size=3) at fs_unix.c:30
#26 0x187654 in textcpy (dst=0x33c89c, src=0x3991f8) at misc.c:101
#27 0x17d5bc in mail_fetch_header (stream=0x33c7e0, msgno=2619, section=0x0,
    lines=0xefffdcb8, len=0xefffdcb4, flags=10) at mail.c:1351
#28 0x181afc in mail_search_msg (stream=0x33c7e0, msgno=2619, section=0x0,
    pgm=0x3a5358) at mail.c:2973
#29 0x181cfc in mail_search_msg (stream=0x33c7e0, msgno=2619, section=0x0,
    pgm=0x3a5268) at mail.c:3009
#30 0x181cfc in mail_search_msg (stream=0x33c7e0, msgno=2619, section=0x0,
    pgm=0x3a51f0) at mail.c:3009
#31 0x17ee8c in mail_search_default (stream=0x33c7e0,
    charset=0xa3b <Address 0xa3b out of bounds>, pgm=0x3a51f0, flags=22)
    at mail.c:1971
#32 0x17ece4 in mail_search_full (stream=0x33c7e0, charset=0x0, pgm=0x3a51f0,
    flags=22) at mail.c:1938
#33 0x12dff4 in match_pattern ()
#34 0xb6efc in calculate_some_scores ()
#35 0xaa4e4 in process_filter_patterns ()
#36 0xa8d08 in do_broach_folder ()
#37 0xfbc4c in main ()
(gdb)


mattack@area.com

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On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, Matt Ackeret wrote:

> 
> Basically -- I started up pine, it crashed.  I started up pine again, it
> worked.  4.33 on "SunOS vax 5.6 sun4u sparc".
> 
> I remembered (or rather, guessed and was right) how to get a real backtrace
> with a core file..
> 
> Dunno if this leads anybody to a useful fix..
> 
> 
> /home/mattack % gdb /usr/local/bin/pine
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>  under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions.
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> GDB 4.16 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6),
> Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc...
> (gdb) core core
> Core was generated by `pine'.
> Program terminated with signal 10, Bus error.

>From one who has absolutely no Mac experience,

"Bus error" is usually a reference to a hardware
difficulty, not software. And it's not a very
specific reference - it says that something on the
bus violated the bus protocols, and everything is
on the bus.

If you're running on a unix-like system, look in
places like /var/log/messages to see if there are
other traces of the event that give a hint of what
system was involved in the "Bus error". (Windows
has a thing called an "Event viewer" that
sometimes reveals a hint. Undoubtedly the Mac has
a place where it remembers things that might turn
out to be interesting.)

dan



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It looks like pine triggered an alarm signal for the busy spinner from
within malloc and then it re-entered malloc to print the message. So it
looks like it is pine's fault and we should be able to fix it for the next
release. Thanks for the stack trace.

(That's an unusual hostname for something running SunOS!)

-- 
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Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle

On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, Matt Ackeret wrote:

>
> Basically -- I started up pine, it crashed.  I started up pine again, it
> worked.  4.33 on "SunOS vax 5.6 sun4u sparc".
>
> I remembered (or rather, guessed and was right) how to get a real backtrace
> with a core file..
>
> Dunno if this leads anybody to a useful fix..
>
>
> /home/mattack % gdb /usr/local/bin/pine
> GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it
>  under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions.
> There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details.
> GDB 4.16 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6),
> Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc...
> (gdb) core core
> Core was generated by `pine'.
> Program terminated with signal 10, Bus error.
> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libxnet.so.1...done.
> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libresolv.so.2...done.
> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libsocket.so.1...done.
> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libnsl.so.1...done.
> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc.so.1...done.
> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libdl.so.1...done.
> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libmp.so.2...done.
> Reading symbols from /usr/platform/SUNW,Ultra-1/lib/libc_psr.so.1...done.
> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/nss_files.so.1...done.
> #0  0xef5c5c84 in _malloc_unlocked ()
> (gdb) bt
> #0  0xef5c5c84 in _malloc_unlocked ()
> #1  0xef5c5b14 in malloc ()
> #2  0x188000 in fs_get (size=81) at fs_unix.c:30
> #3  0x1875c4 in cpystr (
>     string=0x33dc18 "{vax.area.com/user=mattack}INBOX : Message 2691 UID 8870259 greater than last 56") at misc.c:68
> #4  0x8c980 in add_review_message ()
> #5  0x1206a4 in status_message_write ()
> #6  0x120bd0 in output_message ()
> #7  0x120434 in flush_status_messages ()
> #8  0x13deec in end_screen ()
> #9  0x1006bc in panic ()
> #10 0x11ebb0 in auger_in_signal ()
> #11 <signal handler called>
> #12 0xef5c5c84 in _malloc_unlocked ()
> #13 0xef5c5b14 in malloc ()
> #14 0x1ca4d8 in init_stack ()
> #15 0x1ca798 in tparm ()
> #16 0x13e0c0 in moveabsolute ()
> #17 0x13e2b0 in MoveCursor ()
> #18 0x120978 in status_message_write ()
> #19 0x11f67c in alarm_signal ()
> #20 <signal handler called>
> #21 0xef5c62bc in realfree ()
> #22 0xef5c6a94 in cleanfree ()
> #23 0xef5c5c1c in _malloc_unlocked ()
> #24 0xef5c5b14 in malloc ()
> #25 0x188000 in fs_get (size=3) at fs_unix.c:30
> #26 0x187654 in textcpy (dst=0x33c89c, src=0x3991f8) at misc.c:101
> #27 0x17d5bc in mail_fetch_header (stream=0x33c7e0, msgno=2619, section=0x0,
>     lines=0xefffdcb8, len=0xefffdcb4, flags=10) at mail.c:1351
> #28 0x181afc in mail_search_msg (stream=0x33c7e0, msgno=2619, section=0x0,
>     pgm=0x3a5358) at mail.c:2973
> #29 0x181cfc in mail_search_msg (stream=0x33c7e0, msgno=2619, section=0x0,
>     pgm=0x3a5268) at mail.c:3009
> #30 0x181cfc in mail_search_msg (stream=0x33c7e0, msgno=2619, section=0x0,
>     pgm=0x3a51f0) at mail.c:3009
> #31 0x17ee8c in mail_search_default (stream=0x33c7e0,
>     charset=0xa3b <Address 0xa3b out of bounds>, pgm=0x3a51f0, flags=22)
>     at mail.c:1971
> #32 0x17ece4 in mail_search_full (stream=0x33c7e0, charset=0x0, pgm=0x3a51f0,
>     flags=22) at mail.c:1938
> #33 0x12dff4 in match_pattern ()
> #34 0xb6efc in calculate_some_scores ()
> #35 0xaa4e4 in process_filter_patterns ()
> #36 0xa8d08 in do_broach_folder ()
> #37 0xfbc4c in main ()
> (gdb)
>
>
> mattack@area.com
>
>

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On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, daniel lance herrick wrote:

> "Bus error" is usually a reference to a hardware difficulty, not software.

Not necessarily. It's also the error you (can; depending on the arch) get when
you do unaligned accesses. Something like:

long * ptr = (char *) 0x3
*ptr = 1L;

	-Kenny


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On my desktop sytem, it appears that Pine outputs spaces all the way
to the right margin of the xterm window rather than outputting a
carriage return at the end of the actual text.  This may the expected
behavior when displaying the message index, but my complaint is that
it also happens when displaying the text of messages.  The problem is
that when I select text from the Pine window to paste into an editor,
I get all the extra spaces at the end.

This behavior began when I upgraded the desktop system from FreeBSD
4.2-RELEASE to FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE and, as part of that, upgraded Pine
from 4.33 to 4.44.  However, I still have the 4.33 accessible, and it
behaves the same as 4.44 on the new system.  So it must be some other
component of FreeBSD, right?  Not so fast...

I also have a laptop running FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE and Pine 4.44 where
the problem does not occur when running Pine locally.  Yet if I ssh
from the laptop to the desktop and run Pine on the desktop, the
problem occurs.  So it is not xterm or the X selection mechanism.

I concluded that the problem is extra spaces being output because if
in one xterm window I run Pine, then quit Pine, then run ls to
generate more output, and finally select text including some lines
that were part of the Pine display and some from the subsequent
command output, all the Pine lines extend to the right margin, but the
subsequent lines do not.

There were changes in the TERMCAP between FreeBSD 4.5 and 4.6, but I
copied the TERMCAP setting from the laptop and set it in a shell on
the desktop, and the problem still occurred.

The Pine 4.44 binaries are identical on both systems, as are the
libncurses.so.5 files.  TERMCAP I made the same.  The Pine
configuration files are the same.  What's left?

                                                        -- Steve

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Pine doesn't output linefeed characters at the ends of lines. Instead, it
clears the line, moves the cursor, and writes the characters where it
wants them. If you are using color and the termcap entry doesn't have back
color erase, then pine uses spaces to clear the line in the background
color. So maybe that is what is happening to you. It's worth a shot,
anyway. Try turning off color (Setup/Kolor, scroll to top, choose
no-color) and see if the problem goes away. One way to see what pine is
outputting to the screen is to run it inside a "script" session.

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Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle

On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Stephen Casner wrote:

> On my desktop sytem, it appears that Pine outputs spaces all the way
> to the right margin of the xterm window rather than outputting a
> carriage return at the end of the actual text.
> [...]

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On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Steve Hubert wrote:

> Pine doesn't output linefeed characters at the ends of lines. Instead, it
> clears the line, moves the cursor, and writes the characters where it
> wants them. If you are using color and the termcap entry doesn't have back
> color erase, then pine uses spaces to clear the line in the background
> color. So maybe that is what is happening to you.

Yes, that is it, as verified with script as you suggested.  I am using
color, including quote colors which would be effective when displaying
the body of a message.  But the background color is white, same as the
default background color for the xterm.  There isn't any way to select
"no background color" (you and I have talked about this before in a
different context).

But if the behavior is determined by the termcap entry, why wasn't the
behavior changed when I setenv TERMCAP to the termcap entry taken from
printenv TERMCAP on the laptop?

                                                        -- Steve


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On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, Stephen Casner wrote:

> But if the behavior is determined by the termcap entry, why wasn't the
> behavior changed when I setenv TERMCAP to the termcap entry taken from
> printenv TERMCAP on the laptop?
>
>                                                         -- Steve

I don't know. I can point you to the code if you want to investigate. In
.../pine/osdep/termout.unx is the routine CleartoEOLN. Here it is:

void
CleartoEOLN()
{
    int   c, starting_col, starting_line;
    char *last_bg_color;

    /*
     * If the terminal doesn't have back color erase, then we have to
     * erase manually to preserve the background color.
     */
    if(pico_usingcolor() && (!_bce || !_cleartoeoln)){
        starting_col  = _col;
        starting_line = _line;
        last_bg_color = pico_get_last_bg_color();
        pico_set_nbg_color();
        for(c = _col; c < _columns; c++)
          Writechar(' ', 0);

        MoveCursor(starting_line, starting_col);
        if(last_bg_color){
            (void)pico_set_bg_color(last_bg_color);
            fs_give((void **)&last_bg_color);
        }
    }
    else if(_cleartoeoln)
      tputs(_cleartoeoln, 1, outchar);
}

So here is where turning off color causes it to use the else instead of
the if clause. _cleartoeoln has to be defined for pine to work at all, I
think, so that implies that _bce must be zero when you're seeing the
problem. _bce is set in .../pico/osdep/term.cap or
.../pico/osdep/term.inf, depending on whether the makefile in the pico
directory uses termcap or terminfo. You can figure out which makefile is
being used by looking at picotarg in the build script. For example, "build
lnp" uses makefile.lnx in the pico subdir. The termcap capability for back
color erase is "ut". It's a Boolean. The terminfo version is "bce".
Perhaps your pine is using terminfo instead of termcap?

Steve

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I'm just switching to using colors on one of my sun boxes.. Mainly due to
it being much easier to read long dull^H^H^H^H informative threads on
various mailing lists.. So I setup my quote colors:

quote1-foreground-color=cyan
quote1-background-color=black
quote2-foreground-color=green
quote2-background-color=black
quote3-foreground-color=blue
quote3-background-color=black

Problem is.. They don't really work when using a reply-leadin and
reply-indent-string's..  When ever it's a thread I'm actually being part
of.

Is there an option or a way in pine, for it to read your leadin, and
indent string and recognize them as it's reading Emails so it knows those
too, are also quote strings?

Thanks for your time,


---
Erik Parker
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How do I change the default width of the text Pico or Pine displays on the
screen.  I invoke Pico with the -r72 option so that after justifying all the
lines I get a reasonably good-looking print-out.  However, on the screen, I get
the 4-sign at Column 60 and am then stuck scrolling right/left all the time.

I see that the length will change if I reduce the point size of my font, 8 point
isn't too bad, but those settings do not seem to last from one session to the
next.

I am running Pico Version 4.2 under Windows.

Thanks.

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On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, Steve Hubert wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, Stephen Casner wrote:
>
> > But if the behavior is determined by the termcap entry, why wasn't the
> > behavior changed when I setenv TERMCAP to the termcap entry taken from
> > printenv TERMCAP on the laptop?
>
> I don't know.

The simple answer is that it was "a typical case of American blind to
justice ... and the judge wasn't going to look at the 27 8x10 color
glossy pictures..." [1]

In other words, setting the TERMCAP entry has no effect because the
library functions referenced by the pine code (which I found by
following your very helpful pointers) look at the underlying database,
not the environment variable.

> The termcap capability for back
> color erase is "ut". It's a Boolean. The terminfo version is "bce".
> Perhaps your pine is using terminfo instead of termcap?

I'm using FreeBSD, so picotarg=bsf, and termcap is selected, but it's
not clear to me whether the termcap library routines actually
reference terminfo.  In any case, with help from some FreeBSD gurus,
we found that in fact "ut" had recently been removed from the vt100
termcap which is indirectly referenced by the xterm tercap.  This
occurred between the 4.5-RELEASE and 4.6-RELEASE versions that I'm
running on my laptop and desktop, respectively, hence the difference
in their behaviors.  That was the root of the problem.

Thanks again for your help.
                                                        -- Steve

[1] Arlo Guthrie, "Alice's Restaurant"


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Hello.  I use pine now at work and love it but I am trying to save more
older pine files on a disk.  I understand PC File can be used to read pine
without all the headers.  My question is this:  Can I open PCFile on my
computer at home and open pine folders from a disk and just use PC File 
that way - with no connection to anything?


Thanks

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Subject: Re: problems with 8-bit characters (such as German umlauts)
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On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Mike A. Harris wrote:

> PINE 4.44 (and possibly older versions) seems to have problems
> with German umlauts being used.  The full bug details are
> available in Red Hat bugzilla at:
>
> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=70518
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> Is anyone aware of a bugfix for this problem?

Hi Mike,

I can reproduce this with pine4.44 on RedHat 7.3, but it seems to me that
the problem is most likely with glibc, and in particular sprintf.

In mailindx.c, line 3791 (pine4.44), there is the following line:
sprintf(p, "%-*.*s", width, width, cdesc->string);
which, in the person's example email, works out to be something like this:
sprintf(p, "%-*.*s", 18, 18, "J\366rg Linn...");

When setting the system font to the same one as in the person's
environment, sprintf returns -1 with an empty string for p (the man page
doesn't say anything about a return value of -1 for sprintf).  It works in
my default environment, and it is the presence of the \366 char that
causes it to return -1.

Trying various combinations in gdb, it seems like the bug has to do with
the ".*" (precision) part.

I tried using what appears to be the latest glibc rpm :
glibc-kernheaders-2.4-7.14
glibc-2.2.5-39
glibc-devel-2.2.5-39
glibc-common-2.2.5-39

... And the problem still exists.

Let me know if you need any other information.

Jeff

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Hello Family,

I've been trying desperately to get Pine-4.44 to work as my
email client with Opera.

The time I need it the most is when I'm at a URL and I
"right_click" and choose to "send_link_in_email" and then the
terminal will appear just long enough to display the following
error at the bottom of the xterm screen.

(all on one line)

[>Badd address: Must use commas to seperate addresses:
missing><]

Thanks for any help.

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Hello,

does someone knows if it is possible within PCPine to use
an alternate composition window (not only editor) when
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thks a lot

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I have just transferred from PINE 4.21 running on Red Hat Linux 6.2, to 
PINE 4.44 running on Red Hat Linux 7.3. I am in the process of migrating 
from one computer and RH version, to another.

I subscribe to many (about 80) different mailing lists, and have about 
as many different filters (or maybe, a few more). 

When setting up a new filter (Setup->Rules->Filters), the text at the 
top of the page, for the filter name, has 
"Nickname =<No Value Set: using "Filter Rule">" .

When I entered a new filter name, each time, using whatever method 
(typing "c", or "a", or, <ENTER>), the text "Filter Rule" was 
automatically included in the new filter name. This did not occur in 
4.21, and, was a bit of a nuisance in setting up the filters in 4.44, 
especially during the (just over) two hours that it took me to set up 
the new filters. To have existing text automaticaly included in the 
field, for changing, for an existing filter, is appropriate, but, for 
setting up a new filter, having to delete the default field each time, 
gets tedious (and annoying, especially when forgetting and typing in the 
new text, then realising that the default value is prefixing the desired 
text, so having to delete it then) and results in unnecessary additional 
keystrokes.

Could the PINE developers, please restore the procedure that was used in 
4.21, where, when setting up a new filter, the default value for the 
filter name, was not included in the field, when the new filter name was 
being entered, as happens with all the other fields (that I used), apart 
from the name of the folder for the message source (default of INBOX is 
included in the field for editing, which is appropriate)?

Also, can particular configuration data, such as the "Address Book", and 
filters, each be stored in separate files (that is, one file for the 
Address Book, another for the filters, etc), within the mail directory, 
and, therefore, make migration from one version, to a more recent 
version (such as my migration), easier, simpler, and faster? It could be 
an incentive for users to update their versions of PINE, as it would 
make the updating, less inconvenient, and the user could then amend the 
configurations as required, to incorporate expanded features. Given 
that (for example) the filters in 4.44 are more comprehensive than the 
filter options of 4.21, but, still including the options that were in 
4.21, a means of importing the filters as used in 4.21, using a means, 
such as a structured file for the filters, would be good.

-- 
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
  Chapter 28 of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
- Douglas Adams, 1988
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Hi everyone:

I am using pine 4.44 on a Unix shell account. I have it set up to only
show me folders which have new messages. However, my problem is that
folders will be marked as having new messages, but they wind up being
empty. When I exit and restart pine a second time, a different group of
folders show up as having new messages but are actually empty. Can someone
please tell me what might be causing this problem and how I might be able
to solve it? thanks.








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My users are having lots of problems using Pine 4.44 to access our
Notes/Domino mail server via IMAP. Domino server is 5.0.11 on Linux
2.4.18-3. Before reaching the Notes server, the mail is delivered to an
account on an ISP. I am transferring the mail from the remote ISP (POP3,
my only protocol option) to the local Domino SMTP listener using fetchmail
5.9.

It seems if messages have no attachments, the messages are viewable
without problems in Pine. If messages are multipart or contain
attachments, we get the error "Message size does not match expected size,
continuing..." in Pine. Some messages trigger a series of errors including
"Junk at end of message", "missing multipart subtype", etc. and some
messages crash Pine altogether. This happens in both UNIX Pine and
PC-Pine 4.44.

Can anyone shed some light on what I can do to resolve these problems?

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From: daniel lance herrick <dan.herrick@pbs.proquest.com>
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fetchmail has two protocol options that talk to
the sendmail on the server and, so, get the
envelope data as well as the message itself with
its headers.

To serve "my users" you really want the envelope
information. (What happens when one mail message
is addressed to two of your users? What happens
when one of your users subscribes to an e-mail
list that does not put his address in the
headers? What happens when you get things set up
so such an e-mail list is properly delivered to
the subscriber and then another of your users
decides to subscribe to the same e-mail list
without telling you?) POP3 is designed to serve
only one user per account and it loses the
envelope information before you see it.

Your life will become much easier when you give up
and switch to an ISP who is running a unix variant
and knows how the mail works. (When the second is
true, the first will be true, and POP3 will not be
"my only protocol option".) However, the troubles
you are complaining of do not have to happen when
the protocol is POP3.

(I really suspect that if you work as hard as you
can on solving the problems you complain about
below, and also, casually, start shopping for an
ISP, you will end up switched to a new ISP before
you succeed in solving the difficulties at the old
ISP.)

That out of the way, which component is acting up?

Reconfigure fetchmail for an hour or two to not
delete the e-mail it fetches. Then use pine to
pick up that mail directly from the POP
server (after fetchmail has already fetched
it into your system). Does pine pick it up
cleanly? Or is it mangled with only the POP3
server and pine involved? (point the finger at the
isp)

Can you find a way to route some test e-mail from
the POP3 server through fetchmail to procmail for
local delivery? Is that mail mangled when you look
at it with pine?

How does the e-mail get from fetchmail to the
Notes/Domino server? Is Domino listening on port
25 on the local machine and fetchmail just drops
it there? If so, it is almost impossible to have
fetchmail misconfigured. Do you have fetchmail
running Domino to feed it the messages? Is there
something strange about the switches you need to
have on the Domino command line to get the mail
into it cleanly?

dan


On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, David Bradford wrote:

> 
> My users are having lots of problems using Pine 4.44 to access our
> Notes/Domino mail server via IMAP. Domino server is 5.0.11 on Linux
> 2.4.18-3. Before reaching the Notes server, the mail is delivered to an
> account on an ISP. I am transferring the mail from the remote ISP (POP3,
> my only protocol option) to the local Domino SMTP listener using fetchmail
> 5.9.
> 
> It seems if messages have no attachments, the messages are viewable
> without problems in Pine. If messages are multipart or contain
> attachments, we get the error "Message size does not match expected size,
> continuing..." in Pine. Some messages trigger a series of errors including
> "Junk at end of message", "missing multipart subtype", etc. and some
> messages crash Pine altogether. This happens in both UNIX Pine and
> PC-Pine 4.44.
> 
> Can anyone shed some light on what I can do to resolve these problems?
> 
> -- 
> David Bradford
> Information Services Director, LPA, Inc.
> Home: (503) 203-1043
> Cell: (503) 341-9519
> 
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Hello,

I'm trying to use PINE 4.33 to access mail on my Exchange Sever (5.5).

When I login get "There is no replica for that mailbox on this sever"

I can access the public folders, and global address list, on my Exchange
sever, but not my inbox.

I've configured ~/.pinerc according to the informtion at
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/Pine-Exchange

Any ideas as to what's wrong?

Best Regards,
Charles 
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I've configured pine to be the default mailer in Explorer. Everything is fine
except one thing: how do I make pine to save (fcc) my URL-messages? After
sending the mail pine quits immidiatly.

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How does one change the default browser in Pine 4.44 from Explorer to
Netscape?  I have entered the path for netscape but the Explorer
window pops up and just sits there. The URL does not appear.  I then
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Hi,

My ~/mail is located on a FAT32 partition which I 
access either from a Windows OS or from Linux. This 
setup works fine, however, pine when I go to the 
folders list, I see the 2 extra files  "Recycled/" and
"System Volume Information/".

I'm aware that I can define my ~/mail to be somewhere
else, but I'd really like to keep it at the root of
the partition of possible. Is there anything I can do 
to make pine block the display of certain files?

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From: Tom Pratum <tkpratum@romarr.com>
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I can't get pine4.44 to build under osx10.2 with dev tools 10.2 loaded. 
Below is part of the build output which shows the error:

Making Pico and Pilot
make CC=cc -f makefile.osx
rm -f os.h
ln -s osdep/os-osx.h os.h
cc   -g -DDEBUG  -Dbsd -DJOB_CONTROL   -c -o main.o main.c
In file included from headers.h:31,
                  from main.c:38:
os.h:185: conflicting types for `sys_nerr'
/usr/include/stdio.h:265: previous declaration of `sys_nerr'
make: *** [main.o] Error 1

Making Pine and rpload/rpdump.
make CC=cc -f makefile.osx
rm -f os.h
ln -s osdep/os-osx.h os.h
./cmplhlp2.sh  < pine.hlp > helptext.h
cc   -g -DDEBUG   -Dconst= -DSYSTYPE=\"OSX\"   -c -o addrbook.o 
addrbook.c
/usr/include/sys/cdefs.h:84: warning: redefinition of macro const
In file included from ../pico/headers.h:31,
                  from headers.h:59,
                  from addrbook.c:48:
../pico/os.h:185: conflicting types for `sys_nerr'
/usr/include/stdio.h:265: previous declaration of `sys_nerr'
make: *** [addrbook.o] Error 1

Links to executables are in bin directory:
__TEXT  __DATA  __OBJC  others  dec     hex
size: can't open file: bin/pine (No such file or directory)
634880  12288   0       651264  1298432 13d000  bin/mtest
671744  20480   0       688128  1380352 151000  bin/imapd
size: can't open file: bin/pico (No such file or directory)
size: can't open file: bin/pilot (No such file or directory)
size: can't open file: bin/rpdump (No such file or directory)
size: can't open file: bin/rpload (No such file or directory)
630784  12288   0       647168  1290240 13b000  bin/ipop2d
638976  12288   0       651264  1302528 13e000  bin/ipop3d
Done

A simple minded commenting out of "external int sys_nerr;" in os-osx.h 
seems only to make matters worse. I tried compiling with both cc and 
gcc.
Helpful hints or corrections are welcome.
Thank you.


Tom Pratum

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On Fri, 23 Aug 2002 owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu wrote:

> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 14:37:54 +0800
> From: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu
> To: Pine Discussion Forum <pine-info@u.washington.edu>
> Subject: FsR5SJ<~Mx9X MailAgent
> 
>                               CORRUPTED MESSAGE
> 
> This is the Courier Mail Server 0.37 on wasp.net.au.
> 
> I received the following message for delivery to your address.  Unfortunately,
> the sender's mail software did not properly format the following message
> according to Internet mail formatting protocols, and I can only deliver mail
> which has been properly formatted according to Internet standards.  Instead
> of returning the following message as undeliverable, it is saved, in its
> original form, in the following attachment, which you can open with any
> editor or word processor.
> 
> Please notify the original sender that their message was not properly
> formatted by their mail software.  The specific mail protocol error in the
> original message is as follows:
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The mail headers in the following message contain 8-bit text, which is
> prohibited by RFC 2047.
> 
> See <URL:ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2047.txt> for more information.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 

What is happening?

Is the mailing list application non-standards-compliant?

-- 
Bret Busby
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"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
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Bret Busby wrote:

> What is happening?

What is happening is explained in the message that you sent (see below)


> Is the mailing list application non-standards-compliant?

No, the mailing list application is standards-compliant, and you 
apparently sent a message that was not standards-compliant, according to 
the error message


 >>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 >>The mail headers in the following message contain 8-bit text, which is
 >>prohibited by RFC 2047.
 >>
 >>See <URL:ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2047.txt> for more information.
 >>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------


TjL



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On Sun, 25 Aug 2002, Timothy J. Luoma wrote:

> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 08:13:04 -0400
> From: Timothy J. Luoma <lists@tntluoma.com>
> To: Bret Busby <bret@busby.net>
> Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <pine-info@u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: FsR5SJ<~Mx9X MailAgent
> 
> Bret Busby wrote:
> 
> > What is happening?
> 
> What is happening is explained in the message that you sent (see below)
> 
> 
> > Is the mailing list application non-standards-compliant?
> 
> No, the mailing list application is standards-compliant, and you 
> apparently sent a message that was not standards-compliant, according to 
> the error message
> 
> 
>  >>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  >>The mail headers in the following message contain 8-bit text, which is
>  >>prohibited by RFC 2047.
>  >>
>  >>See <URL:ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2047.txt> for more information.
>  >>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> TjL
> 
> 

As I use PINE 4.44, and the message in question, was received from the 
list, as shown in the header that I forwarded to the list, are you 
claiming that PINE sent a message to the list without my knowledge, and 
that PINE 4.44 uses a non-standard header?

Please clarify, and, if my understanding of what you claim is incorrect, 
please read again, the message that I posted,  and clarify exactly what 
it is that you claim.

-- 
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
  Chapter 28 of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
- Douglas Adams, 1988
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I just installed the binary for Pine 4.44 on my system - I'm noticing 
some different behavior than the previous version.  Previously when I 
used Pine, anything that I left in my Inbox would remain there until I 
used my Mozilla email application - at that point, everything in the 
inbox would be pulled into Mozilla.  But now if I open Pine, it's 
actually moving the mail to my mbox, which prevents Mozilla from 
accessing it.  I haven't been able to figure out why this changed.  Is 
it possible to make it act as before?

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On Sun, 25 Aug 2002 pine-info@u.washington.edu wrote:
>Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 18:29:38 -0700
>From: Tom Pratum <tkpratum@romarr.com>
>Subject: pine4.44 will not build under osx10.2/ dev tools 10.2
>Message-ID: <1EFABDD8-B7CA-11D6-954A-0003937E4AEA@romarr.com>
..
>I can't get pine4.44 to build under osx10.2 with dev tools 10.2 loaded.
>Below is part of the build output which shows the error:
...
>Making Pine and rpload/rpdump.
>make CC=cc -f makefile.osx
>rm -f os.h
>ln -s osdep/os-osx.h os.h
>./cmplhlp2.sh  < pine.hlp > helptext.h
>cc   -g -DDEBUG   -Dconst= -DSYSTYPE=\"OSX\"   -c -o addrbook.o
>addrbook.c
>/usr/include/sys/cdefs.h:84: warning: redefinition of macro const
>In file included from ../pico/headers.h:31,
>                  from headers.h:59,
>                  from addrbook.c:48:
>../pico/os.h:185: conflicting types for `sys_nerr'
>/usr/include/stdio.h:265: previous declaration of `sys_nerr'
>make: *** [addrbook.o] Error 1
...
>A simple minded commenting out of "external int sys_nerr;" in os-osx.h
>seems only to make matters worse. I tried compiling with both cc and
>gcc.
>Helpful hints or corrections are welcome.

Well, presumably pine is expecting the one in os.h..

So my simple-minded attempt would be to comment out the one in the
system header (at least temporarily).. Maybe add a #warning for yourself
so that you realize you changed the file from the defaults.

Hmm, maybe I haven't actually compiled pine on OSX lately.. I think mine
is still from a 10.1.5-era compile.. (with a little skanky script in place
to workaround the curses move).


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From: "Tom Pratum, Romarr Properties" <tkpratum@romarr.com>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <pine-info@u.washington.edu>
Subject: crash on selecting attachment pine4.44/osx 10.2
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Another problem here that may or may not be easy to fix:
Pine4.44 now works under osx10.2 on my machine, and I can send messages 
without attachments, but when I try to select an attachment, I get 
(after a short delay):
Problem detected: "Received abort signal".
Pine Exiting.
Abort

The crash log has the following information in it:
**********

Date/Time:  2002-08-24 14:14:31 -0700
OS Version: 10.2 (Build 6C115)
Host:       12-230-5-159

Command:    pine
PID:        417

Exception:  EXC_BREAKPOINT (0x0006)
Code[0]:    0x00000001Code[1]:    0x8fe01280

Thread 0 Crashed:
  #0   0x8fe01280 in halt
  #1   0x8fe106b4 in link_in_need_modules
  #2   0x8fe12a24 in _dyld_bind_fully_image_containing_address
  #3   0x90005a54 in _dyld_bind_fully_image_containing_address
  #4   0x900059ac in sigaction__
  #5   0x9000fa20 in signal__
  #6   0x00189cd4 in init_sighup (signals.c:251)
  #7   0x00189800 in init_signals (signals.c:90)
  #8   0x00152350 in main (pine.c:619)
  #9   0x00001ed4 in _start
  #10  0x00001d04 in start

PPC Thread State:
   srr0: 0x8fe01280 srr1: 0x0002f030                vrsave: 0x00000000
    xer: 0x20000000   lr: 0x8fe09c38  ctr: 0x8fe29468   mq: 0x00000000
     r0: 0x00000004   r1: 0xbffff5c0   r2: 0x8fe0b7f4   r3: 0x00000237
     r4: 0x00000000   r5: 0x00000237   r6: 0x0000000a   r7: 0x2e64796c
     r8: 0x2f6c6962   r9: 0x00000000  r10: 0x8fe4850c  r11: 0x0000001a
    r12: 0x8fe71c5e  r13: 0x00000000  r14: 0x00000000  r15: 0x00000000
    r16: 0x00000000  r17: 0x00000000  r18: 0x00000000  r19: 0x00000000
    r20: 0x00000000  r21: 0x00000000  r22: 0x00000000  r23: 0x00000000
    r24: 0x00000000  r25: 0x00000000  r26: 0xbffffe4c  r27: 0x00189d38
    r28: 0x8fe4841c  r29: 0x8fe484ec  r30: 0x8fe484ec  r31: 0x8fe099bc

**********

Date/Time:  2002-08-24 14:16:18 -0700
OS Version: 10.2 (Build 6C115)
Host:       12-230-5-159

Command:    pine
PID:        486

Exception:  EXC_BREAKPOINT (0x0006)
Code[0]:    0x00000001Code[1]:    0x8fe01280

Thread 0 Crashed:
  #0   0x8fe01280 in halt
  #1   0x8fe106b4 in link_in_need_modules
  #2   0x8fe12a24 in _dyld_bind_fully_image_containing_address
  #3   0x90005a54 in _dyld_bind_fully_image_containing_address
  #4   0x900059ac in sigaction__
  #5   0x9000fa20 in signal__
  #6   0x00189cd4 in init_sighup (signals.c:251)
  #7   0x00189800 in init_signals (signals.c:90)
  #8   0x00152350 in main (pine.c:619)
  #9   0x00001ed4 in _start
  #10  0x00001d04 in start

PPC Thread State:
   srr0: 0x8fe01280 srr1: 0x0002f030                vrsave: 0x00000000
    xer: 0x20000000   lr: 0x8fe09c38  ctr: 0x8fe29468   mq: 0x00000000
     r0: 0x00000004   r1: 0xbffff5c0   r2: 0x8fe0b7f4   r3: 0x00000245
     r4: 0x00000000   r5: 0x00000245   r6: 0x0000000a   r7: 0x2e64796c
     r8: 0x2f6c6962   r9: 0x00000000  r10: 0x8fe4850c  r11: 0x0000001a
    r12: 0x8fe71c6c  r13: 0x00000000  r14: 0x00000000  r15: 0x00000000
    r16: 0x00000000  r17: 0x00000000  r18: 0x00000000  r19: 0x00000000
    r20: 0x00000000  r21: 0x00000000  r22: 0x00000000  r23: 0x00000000
    r24: 0x00000000  r25: 0x00000000  r26: 0xbffffe44  r27: 0x00189d38
    r28: 0x8fe4841c  r29: 0x8fe484ec  r30: 0x8fe484ec  r31: 0x8fe099bc

**********

Date/Time:  2002-08-26 18:36:21 -0700
OS Version: 10.2 (Build 6C115)
Host:       12-230-5-159

Command:    pine
PID:        1375

Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes:      KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x0000001c

Thread 0 Crashed:
  #0   0x940db6e0 in wrefresh
  #1   0x940d5f88 in refresh
  #2   0x002545bc in AskAttach (attach.c:233)
  #3   0x00247c1c in HeaderEditor (composer.c:771)
  #4   0x002432c0 in backline (basic.c:243)
  #5   0x001f94f0 in execute (pico.c:502)
  #6   0x001f8fdc in pico (pico.c:389)
  #7   0x0018404c in pine_send (send.c:3928)
  #8   0x0017c9ec in compose_mail (send.c:961)
  #9   0x0017ac18 in compose_screen (send.c:327)
  #10  0x0015d4bc in main (pine.c:1122)
  #11  0x00002648 in _start (crt.c:267)
  #12  0x000024c8 in start

PPC Thread State:
   srr0: 0x940db6e0 srr1: 0x0000d030                vrsave: 0x00000000
    xer: 0x20000000   lr: 0x940db6c0  ctr: 0x940db6ac   mq: 0x00000000
     r0: 0x00000001   r1: 0xbfffc5c0   r2: 0x006ba660   r3: 0x00000000
     r4: 0x00000001   r5: 0x33807038   r6: 0x80808080   r7: 0x00000002
     r8: 0x706700e0   r9: 0xa40d07a4  r10: 0x006b0290  r11: 0xa40d0988
    r12: 0x940db6ac  r13: 0x00000000  r14: 0x00000000  r15: 0x00000000
    r16: 0x00000000  r17: 0x00000000  r18: 0x00000000  r19: 0x00000000
    r20: 0x00000000  r21: 0x00000000  r22: 0x00000000  r23: 0x00000000
    r24: 0x00000000  r25: 0x00000000  r26: 0xbffffe44  r27: 0x00000008
    r28: 0x00000001  r29: 0x00000022  r30: 0x00000000  r31: 0x940db6c0

**********

Date/Time:  2002-08-26 18:37:08 -0700
OS Version: 10.2 (Build 6C115)
Host:       12-230-5-159

Command:    pine
PID:        1397

Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes:      KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x0000001c

Thread 0 Crashed:
  #0   0x940db6e0 in wrefresh
  #1   0x940d5f88 in refresh
  #2   0x002545bc in AskAttach (attach.c:233)
  #3   0x00247c1c in HeaderEditor (composer.c:771)
  #4   0x002432c0 in backline (basic.c:243)
  #5   0x001f94f0 in execute (pico.c:502)
  #6   0x001f8fdc in pico (pico.c:389)
  #7   0x0018404c in pine_send (send.c:3928)
  #8   0x0017c9ec in compose_mail (send.c:961)
  #9   0x0017ac18 in compose_screen (send.c:327)
  #10  0x0015d4bc in main (pine.c:1122)
  #11  0x00002648 in _start (crt.c:267)
  #12  0x000024c8 in start

PPC Thread State:
   srr0: 0x940db6e0 srr1: 0x0000d030                vrsave: 0x00000000
    xer: 0x00000000   lr: 0x940db6c0  ctr: 0x940db6ac   mq: 0x00000000
     r0: 0x00000001   r1: 0xbfffc5c0   r2: 0x006ba660   r3: 0x00000000
     r4: 0x00000001   r5: 0x8064f033   r6: 0x80808080   r7: 0x00000001
     r8: 0x6700c9e0   r9: 0xa40d07a4  r10: 0x006b0290  r11: 0xa40d0988
    r12: 0x940db6ac  r13: 0x00000000  r14: 0x00000000  r15: 0x00000000
    r16: 0x00000000  r17: 0x00000000  r18: 0x00000000  r19: 0x00000000
    r20: 0x00000000  r21: 0x00000000  r22: 0x00000000  r23: 0x00000000
    r24: 0x00000000  r25: 0x00000000  r26: 0xbffffe44  r27: 0x00000008
    r28: 0x00000001  r29: 0x00000022  r30: 0x00000000  r31: 0x940db6c0

**********

Date/Time:  2002-08-26 18:37:58 -0700
OS Version: 10.2 (Build 6C115)
Host:       12-230-5-159

Command:    pine
PID:        1400

Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes:      KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x0000001c

Thread 0 Crashed:
  #0   0x940db6e0 in wrefresh
  #1   0x940d5f88 in refresh
  #2   0x002545bc in AskAttach (attach.c:233)
  #3   0x00247c1c in HeaderEditor (composer.c:771)
  #4   0x002432c0 in backline (basic.c:243)
  #5   0x001f94f0 in execute (pico.c:502)
  #6   0x001f8fdc in pico (pico.c:389)
  #7   0x0018404c in pine_send (send.c:3928)
  #8   0x0017c9ec in compose_mail (send.c:961)
  #9   0x0017ac18 in compose_screen (send.c:327)
  #10  0x0015d4bc in main (pine.c:1122)
  #11  0x00002648 in _start (crt.c:267)
  #12  0x000024c8 in start

PPC Thread State:
   srr0: 0x940db6e0 srr1: 0x0000d030                vrsave: 0x00000000
    xer: 0x20000000   lr: 0x940db6c0  ctr: 0x940db6ac   mq: 0x00000000
     r0: 0x00000001   r1: 0xbfffc5c0   r2: 0x006ba660   r3: 0x00000000
     r4: 0x00000001   r5: 0x8064fc33   r6: 0x80808080   r7: 0x00000001
     r8: 0x6700c9f8   r9: 0xa40d07a4  r10: 0x006b0290  r11: 0xa40d0988
    r12: 0x940db6ac  r13: 0x00000000  r14: 0x00000000  r15: 0x00000000
    r16: 0x00000000  r17: 0x00000000  r18: 0x00000000  r19: 0x00000000
    r20: 0x00000000  r21: 0x00000000  r22: 0x00000000  r23: 0x00000000
    r24: 0x00000000  r25: 0x00000000  r26: 0xbffffe44  r27: 0x00000008
    r28: 0x00000001  r29: 0x00000022  r30: 0x00000000  r31: 0x940db6c0

**********

Date/Time:  2002-08-26 19:10:18 -0700
OS Version: 10.2 (Build 6C115)
Host:       12-230-5-159

Command:    pine
PID:        1432

Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes:      KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x0000001c

Thread 0 Crashed:
  #0   0x940db6e0 in wrefresh
  #1   0x940d5f88 in refresh
  #2   0x002545bc in AskAttach (attach.c:233)
  #3   0x00247c1c in HeaderEditor (composer.c:771)
  #4   0x002432c0 in backline (basic.c:243)
  #5   0x001f94f0 in execute (pico.c:502)
  #6   0x001f8fdc in pico (pico.c:389)
  #7   0x0018404c in pine_send (send.c:3928)
  #8   0x0017c9ec in compose_mail (send.c:961)
  #9   0x0017ac18 in compose_screen (send.c:327)
  #10  0x0015d4bc in main (pine.c:1122)
  #11  0x00002648 in _start (crt.c:267)
  #12  0x000024c8 in start

PPC Thread State:
   srr0: 0x940db6e0 srr1: 0x0000d030                vrsave: 0x00000000
    xer: 0x00000000   lr: 0x940db6c0  ctr: 0x940db6ac   mq: 0x00000000
     r0: 0x00000001   r1: 0xbfffc5c0   r2: 0x0067a660   r3: 0x00000000
     r4: 0x00000001   r5: 0x19178022   r6: 0x80808080   r7: 0x00000003
     r8: 0x44322f00   r9: 0xa40d07a4  r10: 0x00670290  r11: 0xa40d0988
    r12: 0x940db6ac  r13: 0x00000000  r14: 0x00000000  r15: 0x00000000
    r16: 0x00000000  r17: 0x00000000  r18: 0x00000000  r19: 0x00000000
    r20: 0x00000000  r21: 0x00000000  r22: 0x00000000  r23: 0x00000000
    r24: 0x00000000  r25: 0x00000000  r26: 0xbffffe44  r27: 0x00000008
    r28: 0x00000001  r29: 0x00000016  r30: 0x00000000  r31: 0x940db6c0

Hopefully this is useful information for determining the problem.


Tom Pratum

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From: Richard Reed <rich@infiniverse.net>
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Subject: Flag messages as not-new when put into sent-items
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Hey, all.  I'm using Pine 4.44, and don't want the messages that I have
written to be flagged as 'new' in the sent-items folder.  I use those
folders as imap folders, and it annoys me to no end that I have 'unread'
messages in sent-items by other mail programs.

I have tried making a filter rule that clears the new flag on messages in
the sent-items folder, but this doesn't work to my liking, because the
filter only goes into effect when entering the folder in pine.

Is there a way to have items copied to the fcc folder be not-new?

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Hello,

I can search the Global Address list on my Exchange server.  Pine finds
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I'd like to bind ;pn   to one button.. so i dont have to hit all 3 when i
want to scan a folder list for any folder with new messages..

Is there a way in pine, to do it?



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What is going on with these messages?

Despite a response that was posted to an earlier query that I posted to 
the list about these messages, the header below clearly shows that the 
message was sent by the list administrator.

If the list administrator monitors what goes on on this list, can the 
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messages that show as having been sent by the list administrator?

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From: Jacob Morzinski <jmorzins@MIT.EDU>
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On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Bret Busby wrote:
> What is going on with these messages?

Read the error message.
Read the error message.
Read the error message.
Read the error message.

Sheesh.

You were sent a message that does not conform to the mail RFCs, and
the error message tells you this.

Is it such a stretch to realize that
 1) the reason you were sent this message is that the pine-info list
     sent it to you,
  and
 2) the reason the pine-info list sent it to you is that *someone*
     (we don't know who) sent it to the pine-info list?

If you want to track down the person who sent it to the pine-info list
and chastise them, please do so.  None of us like spam, and we'd all
cheer your efforts.  Most of us try to cope with spam just by ignoring
it, though.

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On 28 Aug 2002 Jacob Morzinski (jmorzins@MIT.EDU) wrote:
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>  1) the reason you were sent this message is that the pine-info list
>      sent it to you,
>   and
>  2) the reason the pine-info list sent it to you is that *someone*
>      (we don't know who) sent it to the pine-info list?
>
> If you want to track down the person who sent it to the pine-info list
> and chastise them, please do so.  None of us like spam, and we'd all
> cheer your efforts.  Most of us try to cope with spam just by ignoring
> it, though.


But, it makes much more sense (in terms of resources) for the
list management software to try to do spam detection *once*
rather than each user on the list having to do spam detection.
Nowadays there are many good tools for spam detection, for
example SpamAssassin. It would involve some moderation of the
list, but I think it's worth it.

Nancy
 updating my "Reverse Spam Filtering" page now

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From: Bret Busby <bret@busby.net>
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On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Jacob Morzinski wrote:

> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:21:35 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Jacob Morzinski <jmorzins@MIT.EDU>
> To: Pine Discussion Forum <pine-info@u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: R;7"LlOBS& (fwd)
> 
> On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Bret Busby wrote:
> > What is going on with these messages?
> 
> Read the error message.
> Read the error message.
> Read the error message.
> Read the error message.
> 
> Sheesh.
> 
> You were sent a message that does not conform to the mail RFCs, and
> the error message tells you this.
> 
> Is it such a stretch to realize that
>  1) the reason you were sent this message is that the pine-info list
>      sent it to you,
>   and
>  2) the reason the pine-info list sent it to you is that *someone*
>      (we don't know who) sent it to the pine-info list?
> 
> If you want to track down the person who sent it to the pine-info list
> and chastise them, please do so.  None of us like spam, and we'd all
> cheer your efforts.  Most of us try to cope with spam just by ignoring
> it, though.
> 
>  -Jacob Morzinski
> 
> 

Your belligenernce is not conducive to the image of the MIT.

This appears to be an issue not of spam (what's spam got to do with the 
message, anyway?), but of the list administrator (NOTE: the message that 
was non-compliant, shows as gaving been sent by the LIST ADMINISTRATOR!) 
sending messages with non-standard headers (what email application is 
the list adminsitrator using, that sends non-standard headers? Is it 
pine?), and, then, the mailing list application (which mailing list 
application is used - is it majordomo?) compunding the problem, by 
both accepting, and, then, distributing, messages that have non-standrad 
headers.

Given that this is a mailing list that is concerned with an email 
application, it is of some concern, that the list administrator, and, 
the mailing list application, are both sending messages that are of a 
non-standard format.

This, as far as I can see, has nothing to do with spam, but, with the 
issues stated in the last previous paragraph.

That is a matter of great concern.

-- 
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
  Chapter 28 of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
- Douglas Adams, 1988
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/* Posted to a polish hacking group and mailed to Pine discussion forum */

I run Pine 4.44 on Red Hat Linux 7.3 kernel 2.4.18-3 and when replying to 
a news posting posted by someone with `"PT" <pturkowski[no_spam]@o2.pl>' 
in `From', I noticed that pine has put something strange instead of my 
normal leadin string, which is defined as `_SHORTDATE3_, _FROM_ <_ADDRESS_> 
wrote:'. This strange string was:

28.08.02, PT, MISSINGpturkowskiTERMINATOR, and UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTERpturkow...:

A bug or a feature? :)

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Hi all,
  I'm new to pine and it's text-based ways. I want to filter incoming mail
into folders and have a quick way of checking on the status of the
folders. Should I use:
1. v. 3.95a which I have now and change the text file (.pinerc ?)
2. upgrade to 4.44 and do it within pine
3. use a filtering program like procmail
I'm hesitant to do 2 or 3 since I'm doing it within linux (am new to this
o.s.). If you could help me out with a good site or instructions for any
of the 3 options I'd appreciate it.
Gabriel



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On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Bret Busby wrote:
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> Your belligenernce is not conducive to the image of the MIT.

	It was deserved -- and shared.
>
> That is a matter of great concern.

	Maybe -- between you and the administrator; for the rest of
us, it's spam. Please desist from posting it.
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On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Bret Busby wrote:

> This appears to be an issue not of spam (what's spam got to do with the
> message, anyway?), but of the list administrator (NOTE: the message that
> was non-compliant, shows as gaving been sent by the LIST ADMINISTRATOR!)

The message in question has these lines right above the lines you're
reading as saying the list administrator personally sent the message:

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That's a pretty clear sign that the list administrator did not personally
sit down and compose that message--someone at 61.149.16.188 did. That IP
belongs to the CHINANET Beijing province network. I'm pretty sure the
list administrator isn't working from there.

The reasason the list admin address shows up in the From and Sender
headers is that the original message had no such headers, and the smtp
server or mailing list software filled them in.

Agreed, listproc and sendmail probably shouldn't be accepting messages
with 8-bit characters in the subject lines. But this isn't a problem with
the list administrator, as you claim.

--
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Hi,

I am using Pine 4.33 to access a remote IMAP server. However, I have a different
user name on the linux box, other than the email account user name on the IMAP
server. I configed Pine to have a remote .pinerc and remote address book on the
IMAP server. But Pine keeps asking me for my password everytime I try to open
different folders. I have read the post on
http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/1999.12/msg00170.html
and I add the /user=my-email-user-name after the mail server name in .pinerc,
but I
still get the same problem. Is there any way that I can just enter the user name
and password once instead of many times? Is this problem caused by my different
system-login-name and my-email-user-name?

Thanks a lot!

Jason Zhang
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On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Josh Larios wrote:

> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 10:29:19 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Josh Larios <jdlarios@cac.washington.edu>
> To: Pine Discussion Forum <pine-info@u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: R;7"LlOBS& (fwd)
> 
> On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Bret Busby wrote:
> 
> > This appears to be an issue not of spam (what's spam got to do with the
> > message, anyway?), but of the list administrator (NOTE: the message that
> > was non-compliant, shows as gaving been sent by the LIST ADMINISTRATOR!)
> 
> The message in question has these lines right above the lines you're
> reading as saying the list administrator personally sent the message:
> 
> Received: from jindi2 ([61.149.16.188]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.06) with SMTP id g7S95606008610 for <pine-info@cac.washington.edu>; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 02:05:08 -0700
> Received: (qmail 30113 invoked by uid 0); 26 Aug 2002 03:19:42 -0000
> Received: from unknown (HELO relay) (isee@seeyou.com@192.168.0.10) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Aug 2002 03:19:42 -0000
> Message-Id: <200208280905.g7S95606008610@mx1.cac.washington.edu>
> 
> That's a pretty clear sign that the list administrator did not personally
> sit down and compose that message--someone at 61.149.16.188 did. That IP
> belongs to the CHINANET Beijing province network. I'm pretty sure the
> list administrator isn't working from there.
> 
> The reasason the list admin address shows up in the From and Sender
> headers is that the original message had no such headers, and the smtp
> server or mailing list software filled them in.
> 
> Agreed, listproc and sendmail probably shouldn't be accepting messages
> with 8-bit characters in the subject lines. But this isn't a problem with
> the list administrator, as you claim.
> 
> --
> Josh Larios                   Computing & Communications Client Services
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> 

Thank you for that.

That is the fiirst constructive response to my concerns.

Now, could the list administrator please do something to fix the 
problem?

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I suggest that you recompile pine with the option to use a
PASSFILE to store your passwords. I have info and links about
this here

 <http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#passfile>

Also, while you're at it you might want to upgrade to Pine 4.44.

HTH,
Nancy

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From: Fan (Jason) Zhang <fanzhang@dsp.toronto.edu>
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Subject: Please help: PINE 4.44 compilation problem RE: Problems on "Eliminating ..."
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Thanks to Runar Jorgensen and Nancy Mcgough. I tried to upgrade the PINE 4.33 to
PINE 4.44 as both of you suggested. Since I am on a multi-user linux system
(Redhat 7.1) and I don't have the root privilege, I think I would better not use
PASSFILE. 
The system has the openssl and it is on </usr/share/ssl>.

But when I compile the PINE 4.44 (./build slx), I met the following error which
I don't know
how to solve:

1. File /usr/share/ssl/certs/factory.pem is missing

      There are only two files under /usr/share/ssl/certs directory
(ca-bundle.crt, Makefile). Since I don't have the root privilege, I cannot make
a factory.pem to put under that directory.

2. /usr/bin/ld: can not find -lncurses

      I found that there are libncurses.so.5 and libncurses.so.5.2 in my
/usr/lib directory but I don't know how to make a link on it.

If I compile without SSL, the second problem still stays.

Thank you very much

Jason Zhang
