From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 2 03:22:39 2002 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 03:22:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g02BMbV6024283 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 03:22:37 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 02 03:22:31 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g02BMUpr009613; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 03:22:30 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g02BLg538862; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 03:21:42 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g02BFjn81028 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 03:15:46 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 02 03:15:41 2002 -0800 Received: from lantana.iitm.ernet.in (lantana.tenet.res.in [202.144.28.166]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g02BFXVK031475 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 03:15:38 -0800 Received: from localhost (bharathi@localhost) by lantana.iitm.ernet.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g02BFtA27993; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 16:45:56 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 16:45:54 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: S Bharathi To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: i18n Support In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bob Rasmussen X-Cc: S Bharathi , Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-IMAPbase: 1015298700 128 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1 Hello Sir, Thanks for reply, On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Bob Rasmussen wrote: > On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, S Bharathi wrote: > > If any plan to include i18n support in Pine. > > If yes, Anybody is currently working in this area ? > > * I have configured Pine to use "display-filters", such that messages on > certain charsets are sent through "iconv" (available in Linux) to translate to > UTF-8. What is display-filters ? I have no idea about it. > * I patched Pine so that it does not clear-screen before and after using a > display-filter. I did some modification in pine4.33 with Gettext for I18N. Whatever i did is only for menu and error mesg . Nothing for Encoding because i have very less knowledge about it. > * I have not yet figured out how to make Pine translate headers, such as the > "From:" and "Subject:" lines, according to their embedded charset identifiers. > In fact, these can sometimes confuse the UTF rendering in Anzio. This is the > highest priority for me. Yes, I am also having same problem and Refresh probelm in keymenu. > Regards, > ....Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. If you need i will send the scr shot of modified pine, pico & pilot. Thank you, -- _ _ S. Bharathi bharathi@lantana.iitm.ernet.in (BSB-340) (_ |_) Prj Associate, IndLinuX Developement Team, (4458904) _)*|_) LLI Lab, IIT-Madras, INDIA - 600036. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 2 10:15:14 2002 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 10:15:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g02IFDV6026097 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 10:15:13 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 02 10:15:11 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g02IFB11022181; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 10:15:11 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g02IEk412742; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 10:14:46 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g02HxJn102692 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 09:59:20 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 02 09:59:15 2002 -0800 Received: from nimbus.anzio.com ([66.129.212.98]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g02Hx93F013659 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 09:59:14 -0800 Received: from localhost (ras@localhost) by nimbus.anzio.com (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g02Hjrl18581; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 09:45:53 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 09:45:53 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bob Rasmussen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: i18n Support In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: S Bharathi X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2 On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, S Bharathi wrote: > What is display-filters ? I have no idea about it. This is a feature built into Pine (for Unix) that lets you send certain messages through a Unix filter before being displayed. See the ".pinerc". For instance, mine reads: display-filters=_charset(big5)_ ~/viewutf8 big5, _charset(windows-1250)_ ~/viewutf8 windows-1250, _charset(windows-1251)_ ~/viewutf8 windows-1251, _charset(windows-1252)_ ~/viewutf8 windows-1252, _charset(windows-1253)_ ~/viewutf8 windows-1253, _charset(windows-1254)_ ~/viewutf8 windows-1254, _charset(windows-1255)_ ~/viewutf8 windows-1255, _charset(windows-1256)_ ~/viewutf8 windows-1256, _charset(windows-1257)_ ~/viewutf8 windows-1257, _charset(us-ascii)_ ~/viewutf8 windows-1252, _charset(iso-8859-1)_ ~/viewutf8 iso-8859-1, _charset(iso-8859-2)_ ~/viewutf8 iso-8859-2, _charset(iso-8859-3)_ ~/viewutf8 iso-8859-3, _charset(iso-8859-4)_ ~/viewutf8 iso-8859-4, _charset(iso-8859-5)_ ~/viewutf8 iso-8859-5, _charset(iso-8859-6)_ ~/viewutf8 iso-8859-6, _charset(iso-8859-7)_ ~/viewutf8 iso-8859-7, _charset(iso-8859-8)_ ~/viewutf8 iso-8859-8, _charset(iso-8859-9)_ ~/viewutf8 iso-8859-9, _charset(gb2312)_ ~/viewutf8 gb2312, _charset(koi8-r)_ ~/viewutf8 koi8-r The "viewutf8" is a one-line script that reads: iconv --from-code=$1 --to-code=utf-8 So for instance, if Pine is displaying a message with a charset of gb2312 (Chinese), it sends it through iconv (included with Linux, available for others) to convert it to UTF-8 (Unicode), which the telnet client can display. Regards, ....Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: ras@anzio.com company e-mail: rsi@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 2 11:44:04 2002 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:44:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g02JhxV6031277 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:44:01 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 02 11:43:51 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g02Jhppr021387; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:43:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g02JhS422338; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:43:29 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g02JgOn162696 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:42:24 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 02 11:42:23 2002 -0800 Received: from jinx.unknown.nu (jinx.unknown.nu [216.80.99.202]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g02JgNVK011561 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:42:23 -0800 Received: by jinx.unknown.nu (Postfix, from userid 1023) id EB621316E; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 13:42:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jinx.unknown.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6CD54A80; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 13:42:22 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 13:42:22 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Kim Scarborough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Color support under FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20011206231245.F63916-100000@poison.ncptiddische.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Nils Holland X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3 A little late piping up in this thread, sorry... > With color support turned on (no matter which one of the three options > that are available is selected), the screen gets pretty much messed up. All > lines seem to get redrawn exactly one line below their original position. > As a result of that, the entries in pine's menues get displayed twice, and > that just looks kind of strange. I've been complaining about this bug since 4.20. Somebody sent me a patch for it and said he submitted it, but it was never committed. I don't want to be a pest, but I have to apply that patch with each new version. Is there a way to find out what's going on with this? By the way, the fix is to change line 210 in pine/screen.c from "if(i == 1 && !label_color)" to "if(i == 1)". I've lost the name of the fellow who sent it to me, unfortunately... hopefully he's still on this list. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kim Scarborough http://www.unknown.nu/kim/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Being in politics is like being a football coach. You have to be smart enough to understand the game and dumb enough to think it's important." -Eugene McCarthy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 2 19:45:06 2002 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:45:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g033j3V6015979 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:45:04 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 02 19:44:59 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g033ixpr002129; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:44:59 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g033iF540950; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:44:15 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g033gQn170930 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:42:26 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 02 19:42:25 2002 -0800 Received: from rwja.umdnj.edu (rwja.UMDNJ.EDU [130.219.4.100]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g033gP3F008505 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:42:25 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rwja.umdnj.edu (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA02754; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 22:42:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 22:42:28 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Cliff Green To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: feature request: choose smtp server In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Nancy McGough X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4 On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Nancy McGough wrote: NM> On 27 Dec 2001 Joel Boonstra (jboonstra@gospelcom.net) wrote: NM> > I have a laptop that I bring to and from the office with me. It uses RH NM> > 7.1, with Pine 4.43, patched with Eduardo's excellent fancy thread patch. NM> NM> Here are 3 possible solutions. NM> NM> 1] In your pinerc, set NM> NM> smtp-server=localhost NM> NM> and then set up ssh port forwarding to forward your machine's NM> port 25 to your work machine's SMTP server. This should then work NM> whether you are at home or work because the requests to your work NM> SMTP server will appear to be local. NM> NM> I've done this with PC-Pine and SecureCRT port forwarding but NM> I've never done it from a Linux box. If anyone has successfully NM> done this on *nix, I'd appreciate info so I can 1) try it and 2) NM> add info about it in my Using Port Forwarding with Pine, which is NM> here NM> NM> For this, ssh needs to be run by root - ports 25 and 143 (if you're also forwarding imap) are privileged ports. I've used: "ssh -l -L 25:my.mail.host:25 -L 143:my.mail.host:143 my.host.name" (that's one line - watch for linewrap) Again, this is run by root (it *is* your own linux box, right?), but the '-l accountname' can be an ordinary user on the remote host. c -- Clifford Green Internet - green@umdnj.edu Academic Computing Services UMDNJ-IST From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 2 19:56:08 2002 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:56:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g033u6V6001248 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:56:06 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 02 19:56:02 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g033u1pr002319; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:56:01 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g033tJ519446; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:55:19 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g033sHn170918 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:54:17 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 02 19:54:16 2002 -0800 Received: from moultrie.cse.sc.edu ([129.252.138.7]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g033sGTA029627 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:54:16 -0800 Received: from mum.cse.sc.edu (mum.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.21]) by moultrie.cse.sc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5436B1FA25 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 22:54:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 22:54:15 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: feature request: choose smtp server In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gopalan@mum.cse.sc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5 On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Cliff Green wrote: > NM> > > For this, ssh needs to be run by root - ports 25 and 143 (if you're > also forwarding imap) are privileged ports. They are privileged ports (as is anything less than 1024), but you don't have to bind to those ports. You can forward to other ports like 1043, 1025 etc. and then add the port number to the server specification, eg: smtp-server=3Dlocalhost:2250/user=3Dxyzzy Tr=E8s simple, no? --=20 Gopi Sundaram gopi@cse.sc.edu http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 2 21:19:52 2002 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 21:19:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g035JoV6031306 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 21:19:51 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 02 21:19:49 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g035Jmpr003711; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 21:19:48 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g035Io209912; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 21:18:50 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g035I8n47964 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 21:18:08 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 02 21:18:07 2002 -0800 Received: from Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.58]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g035I7m1027989 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 21:18:07 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 21:18:02 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mark Crispin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Your message (no subject found) #011227@15:02:32.1096 In-Reply-To: <20011227230102.5BA0A37B9B@rhea.tiscali.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bruce Cohen X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu, , X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6 On Fri, 28 Dec 2001, Bruce Cohen wrote: > [Error writing scratch file at byte 8191][><][] Are you out of disk space on /tmp or /var/tmp? -- Mark -- http://staff.washington.edu/mrc Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 2 22:50:09 2002 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 22:50:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g036o7V6027505 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 22:50:07 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 02 22:49:59 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g036nx11008351; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 22:49:59 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g036nP421796; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 22:49:26 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g036mPn67800 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 22:48:25 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 02 22:48:21 2002 -0800 Received: from rwja.umdnj.edu (rwja.UMDNJ.EDU [130.219.4.100]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g036mLTA016280 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 22:48:21 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rwja.umdnj.edu (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA08066; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 01:48:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 01:48:21 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Cliff Green To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: feature request: choose smtp server In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Gopi Sundaram X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7 On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Gopi Sundaram wrote: GS> On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Cliff Green wrote: GS> GS> > NM> GS> > GS> > For this, ssh needs to be run by root - ports 25 and 143 (if you're GS> > also forwarding imap) are privileged ports. GS> GS> They are privileged ports (as is anything less than 1024), but you don't GS> have to bind to those ports. You can forward to other ports like 1043, GS> 1025 etc. and then add the port number to the server specification, eg: GS> GS> smtp-server=localhost:2250/user=xyzzy Yeah, I guess you could take that route. I just prefer making ssh do the work and let it be transparent to the client(s). YMMV. c -- Clifford Green Internet - green@umdnj.edu Academic Computing Services UMDNJ-IST From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 2 22:56:40 2002 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 22:56:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g036ucV6018870 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 22:56:39 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 02 22:56:37 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g036ubpr005293; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 22:56:37 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g036u7209836; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 22:56:07 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g036tjn30536 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 22:55:45 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 02 22:55:44 2002 -0800 Received: from rhea.tiscali.nl (rhea.tiscali.nl [195.241.76.178]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g036th3F028083 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 22:55:44 -0800 Received: from shell.worldonline.nl (shell.tiscali.nl [195.241.77.35]) by rhea.tiscali.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1CD136B4A; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 07:55:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (cohenb@localhost) by shell.worldonline.nl (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA14863; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 07:55:40 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 07:55:40 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bruce Cohen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Your message (no subject found) #011227@15:02:32.1096 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mark Crispin X-Cc: , , X-Authentication-Warning: shell.worldonline.nl: cohenb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8 I have no idea - how can I tell? (for the future, that is - whatever was wrong has been fixed - about 12 hours after this started everything collapsed at worldonline/tiscali and it took another half day before they got things back up and running) I take it then that this isn't a bug but known pine behavior... Thanks for responding Bruce Cohen On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Mark Crispin wrote: > On Fri, 28 Dec 2001, Bruce Cohen wrote: > > [Error writing scratch file at byte 8191][><][] > > Are you out of disk space on /tmp or /var/tmp? > > -- Mark -- > > http://staff.washington.edu/mrc > Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. > > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 3 00:54:23 2002 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 00:54:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g038sMV6004271 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 00:54:22 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 03 00:54:21 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g038sK11010455; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 00:54:20 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g038rp217546; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 00:53:52 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g038qon06758 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 00:52:50 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 03 00:52:46 2002 -0800 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g038qkVK010440 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 00:52:46 -0800 Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.12]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g038qj8W003534; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 00:52:45 -0800 Received: from Shimo-Tomobiki.Panda.COM (mes128085095.airdata.net [166.128.85.95]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g038qOkg001281 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 3 Jan 2002 00:52:40 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 00:52:21 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mark Crispin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Your message (no subject found) #011227@15:02:32.1096 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: mrc@cac.washington.edu X-To: Bruce Cohen X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu, , X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9 On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Bruce Cohen wrote: > I have no idea - how can I tell? "df /tmp" or "df /var/tmp" will show you how much disk is available on /tmp and /var/tmp respectively. > I take it then that this isn't a bug but known pine behavior... "Error writing scratch file" is a legitimate error when a tmp directory is filled. A Pine crash is not. -- Mark -- http://staff.washington.edu/mrc Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 3 08:44:08 2002 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 08:44:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g03Gi5V6031536 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 08:44:05 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 03 08:43:24 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g03GhN11018964; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 08:43:24 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g03Gh5415936; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 08:43:05 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g03GgAn32784 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 08:42:10 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 03 08:42:10 2002 -0800 Received: from pandora.tiscali.nl (pandora.tiscali.nl [195.241.76.179]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g03Gg9m1001546 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 08:42:09 -0800 Received: from shell.worldonline.nl (shell.tiscali.nl [195.241.77.35]) by pandora.tiscali.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD8437CD4; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:41:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (cohenb@localhost) by shell.worldonline.nl (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA17224; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:41:30 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:41:30 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bruce Cohen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Your message (no subject found) #011227@15:02:32.1096 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mark Crispin X-Cc: , , X-Authentication-Warning: shell.worldonline.nl: cohenb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 10 So why the abort and core dump -any ideas? You seem to imply that it shouldn't have happened... Bruce On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Mark Crispin wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Bruce Cohen wrote: > > I have no idea - how can I tell? > > "df /tmp" or "df /var/tmp" will show you how much disk is available on > /tmp and /var/tmp respectively. > > > I take it then that this isn't a bug but known pine behavior... > > "Error writing scratch file" is a legitimate error when a tmp directory is > filled. > > A Pine crash is not. > > -- Mark -- > > http://staff.washington.edu/mrc > Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. > > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 3 09:59:59 2002 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 09:59:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g03HxtV6027582 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 09:59:56 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 03 09:59:53 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g03Hxq11021398; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 09:59:53 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g03Hwlb10118; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 09:58:47 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g03Hvwn84644 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 09:57:58 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 03 09:57:57 2002 -0800 Received: from Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.58]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g03Hvv3F009029 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 09:57:57 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 09:56:45 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mark Crispin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Your message (no subject found) #011227@15:02:32.1096 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Sender: Mark Crispin X-To: Bruce Cohen X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu, pine@CAC.Washington.EDU, pine-bugs@CAC.Washington.EDU X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11 On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:41:30 +0100 (MET), Bruce Cohen wrote: > So why the abort and core dump -any ideas? > > You seem to imply that it shouldn't have happened... That's right. An abort/dump should never happen. As for "why"...do you have a stack trace or any other form of gdb/dbx analysis of the dump? Many times, problems such as this aren't reproducable here. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 3 10:30:44 2002 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:30:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g03IUbV6023660 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:30:38 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 03 10:30:35 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g03IUZ11022407; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:30:35 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g03IU3513716; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:30:03 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g03ITEn78972 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:29:14 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 03 10:29:13 2002 -0800 Received: from rebecca.tiscali.nl (rebecca.tiscali.nl [195.241.76.181]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g03ITDTA008692 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:29:13 -0800 Received: from shell.worldonline.nl (shell.tiscali.nl [195.241.77.35]) by rebecca.tiscali.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A6E8A3C02; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:29:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (cohenb@localhost) by shell.worldonline.nl (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA17641; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:29:04 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:29:04 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bruce Cohen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Your message (no subject found) #011227@15:02:32.1096 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mark Crispin X-Cc: , , X-Authentication-Warning: shell.worldonline.nl: cohenb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12 No, how do I do that? (I assume it's too late this time) I could send the core, I still have the last one (all others gone) - it's slightly over 1 meg, the previous ones were under... Bruce On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Mark Crispin wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:41:30 +0100 (MET), Bruce Cohen wrote: > > So why the abort and core dump -any ideas? > > > > You seem to imply that it shouldn't have happened... > > That's right. An abort/dump should never happen. > > As for "why"...do you have a stack trace or any other form of gdb/dbx analysis > of the dump? Many times, problems such as this aren't reproducable here. > > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 3 10:40:55 2002 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:40:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g03IerV6008432 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:40:54 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 03 10:40:51 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g03Ieppr019186; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:40:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g03IeW223316; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:40:32 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g03Idvn84490 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:39:57 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 03 10:39:56 2002 -0800 Received: from Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.58]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g03Idum1031633 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:39:56 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:37:19 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mark Crispin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Your message (no subject found) #011227@15:02:32.1096 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Sender: Mark Crispin X-To: Bruce Cohen X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu, pine@CAC.Washington.EDU, pine-bugs@CAC.Washington.EDU X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 13 On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:29:04 +0100 (MET), Bruce Cohen wrote: > No, how do I do that? (I assume it's too late this time) If you have gdb on your system: gdb path_of_Pine_binary path_of_core_file The output from the command command "info stack" is useful as a start. There may be other things that are also useful. > I could send the core, I still have the last one (all others gone) - it's > slightly over 1 meg, the previous ones were under... Unfortunately, it's useless to mail core files to us unless we have the same system type and the exact same Pine binary. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 3 11:32:25 2002 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:32:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g03JWCV6006058 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:32:12 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 03 11:32:03 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g03JW2pr020949; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:32:02 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g03JVg217450; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:31:42 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g03JUrn81108 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:30:53 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 03 11:30:52 2002 -0800 Received: from mailgate.ias.edu (mailgate.ias.edu [192.16.204.20]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g03JUgm1012991 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:30:51 -0800 Received: from pico.admin.ias.edu (pico.admin.ias.edu [198.138.242.10]) by mailgate.ias.edu (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29345; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:30:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by pico.admin.ias.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:29:00 -0500 Message-Id: <9B3CEA6AE680D41190DB00508B0EA5DCCF3FDB@pico.admin.ias.edu> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:28:50 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Hong Tian To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine.info and pine.conf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: "'htian@ias.edu'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 14 Hi, Our Dept. has a Windows 2000 Mail Server. I try to install Pine on Unix (Solaris 8) workstations. All these Unix users are still supported by this Windows 2000 Mail Server. Now I have some questions: (1) Why can I send email to other users, but I can't receive email from other users? For a test, I send the email to myself, but I still can't receive it? (2) I downloaded the binary codes of pine-bin.sun58 and imapd-bin.sun58. Where can I find the files of pine.info, pine.conf, and pine.conf.fixed? Thanks, Hong -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 3 13:17:56 2002 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 13:17:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g03LHsV6029798 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 13:17:55 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 03 13:17:52 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g03LHppr024150; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 13:17:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g03LHO204522; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 13:17:24 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g03LGZn164092 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 13:16:36 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 03 13:16:34 2002 -0800 Received: from moultrie.cse.sc.edu ([129.252.138.7]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g03LGYVK032687 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 13:16:34 -0800 Received: from mum.cse.sc.edu (mum.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.21]) by moultrie.cse.sc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61431FA24; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:16:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:16:31 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine.info and pine.conf In-Reply-To: <9B3CEA6AE680D41190DB00508B0EA5DCCF3FDB@pico.admin.ias.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Hong Tian X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gopalan@mum.cse.sc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 15 On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Hong Tian wrote: > (1) Why can I send email to other users, but I can't receive email > from other users? For a test, I send the email to myself, but I > still can't receive it? What is your inbox set to? My guess is that the default is the local mail spool file. Since your mail server is the Exchange Server, you should try to access that via IMAP or POP. (M)ain (S)etup (C)onfig inbox-path = {your.exchange.server} If your user name is different on the Unix boxes than the exchange server, then change the server definition to {your.exchange.server/user=xyzzy} where xyzzy is your login name on the Exchange server. > Where can I find the files of pine.info, pine.conf, and > pine.conf.fixed? pine.conf and pine.conf.fixed contain global options for all users. pine.conf is overrideable, while pine.conf.fixed is not. pine.info is optional. It should contain text that tells people to contact the local support team for help. If it doesn't exist, it won't harm anything. For further info on the first two files, take a look at the tech-notes for Pine configuration: http://www.washington.edu/pine/tech-notes/config.html -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cse.sc.edu http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 3 14:35:08 2002 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:35:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g03MZ4V6015124 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:35:05 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 03 14:35:00 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g03MZ0pr026409; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:35:00 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g03MYd524298; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:34:39 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g03MXwn159864 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:33:58 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 03 14:33:57 2002 -0800 Received: from mailgate.ias.edu (mailgate.ias.edu [192.16.204.20]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g03MXfVK019545 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:33:56 -0800 Received: from pico.admin.ias.edu (pico.admin.ias.edu [198.138.242.10]) by mailgate.ias.edu (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03891; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:33:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by pico.admin.ias.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:31:57 -0500 Message-Id: <9B3CEA6AE680D41190DB00508B0EA5DCCF3FDE@pico.admin.ias.edu> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:31:49 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Hong Tian To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: pine.info and pine.conf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-To: "'Gopi Sundaram'" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum , "'htian@ias.edu'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 16 Gopi, (1) It works after setting up inbox-path correctly. (2) After running pine command, a file named .pinerc created for each user automatically. I can't find pine.info in PINE package. Should I copy .pinerc to pine.info, or create a new pine.info? Thanks for your help. Hong -----Original Message----- From: Gopi Sundaram [mailto:gopalan@cs.sc.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:17 PM To: Hong Tian Cc: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine.info and pine.conf On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Hong Tian wrote: > (1) Why can I send email to other users, but I can't receive email > from other users? For a test, I send the email to myself, but I > still can't receive it? What is your inbox set to? My guess is that the default is the local mail spool file. Since your mail server is the Exchange Server, you should try to access that via IMAP or POP. (M)ain (S)etup (C)onfig inbox-path = {your.exchange.server} If your user name is different on the Unix boxes than the exchange server, then change the server definition to {your.exchange.server/user=xyzzy} where xyzzy is your login name on the Exchange server. > Where can I find the files of pine.info, pine.conf, and > pine.conf.fixed? pine.conf and pine.conf.fixed contain global options for all users. pine.conf is overrideable, while pine.conf.fixed is not. pine.info is optional. It should contain text that tells people to contact the local support team for help. If it doesn't exist, it won't harm anything. For further info on the first two files, take a look at the tech-notes for Pine configuration: http://www.washington.edu/pine/tech-notes/config.html -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cse.sc.edu http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 3 15:15:58 2002 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:15:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g03NFuV6031403 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:15:56 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 03 15:15:55 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g03NFspr027562; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:15:54 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g03NFXb32722; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:15:33 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g03NEgn109866 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:14:42 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 03 15:14:41 2002 -0800 Received: from moultrie.cse.sc.edu ([129.252.138.7]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g03NEfm1005992 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:14:41 -0800 Received: from mum.cse.sc.edu (mum.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.21]) by moultrie.cse.sc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EA91FA25 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 18:14:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 18:14:40 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: pine.info and pine.conf In-Reply-To: <9B3CEA6AE680D41190DB00508B0EA5DCCF3FDE@pico.admin.ias.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gopalan@mum.cse.sc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 17 On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Hong Tian wrote: > (2) After running pine command, a file named .pinerc created for > each user automatically. This is normal. It is the default config file for all users. If you want to set certain settings that all users will want, such as their inbox path, you should set that in the pine.conf file. For example, the pine.conf file for my department looks like this: smtp-server=smtp.cse.sc.edu inbox-path={imap.cse.sc.edu/ssl} nntp-server=news.cse.sc.edu character-set=iso-8859-1 So for all users, unless they override these settings in their .pinerc files, these will be the defaults. The contents of the pine.conf.fixed file are: rsh-open-timeout=0 Users cannot override this at all in their .pinerc file. > I can't find pine.info in PINE package. Should I copy .pinerc to > pine.info, or create a new pine.info? As I stated before, the file is optional. Read the tech-notes for Pine to see what it should contain. I gave you a URL in a previous message. -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cse.sc.edu http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 3 22:00:14 2002 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 22:00:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g0460DV6026287 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 22:00:13 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 03 22:00:07 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0460711006787; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 22:00:07 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g045xd518804; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 21:59:40 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g045wKn65452 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 21:58:20 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 03 21:58:19 2002 -0800 Received: from mailhost.alsc.com (mailhost2.alsc.com [12.7.155.10]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g045wJm1001661 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 21:58:19 -0800 Received: (from root@localhost) by mailhost.alsc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA07573 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 21:58:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from eureka.alsc.com (eureka [210.2.1.11]) by mailhost.alsc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA07228 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 21:58:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from everest by eureka.alsc.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA29062; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 11:28:56 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 11:23:33 -0500 (GMT) Reply-To: Arun Prabhakaran Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Arun Prabhakaran To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine.info and pine.conf In-Reply-To: <9B3CEA6AE680D41190DB00508B0EA5DCCF3FDB@pico.admin.ias.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: arunp@everest.alsc.com X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Get yourself a real mail client! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1 (http://amavis.org/) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 18 hi, To get pine.conf type: pine -conf > pine.conf and u will get a fresh pine.conf file. for more info try: pine --help On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Hong Tian wrote: > Hi, > > Our Dept. has a Windows 2000 Mail Server. I try to install Pine > on Unix (Solaris 8) workstations. All these Unix users are still > supported by this Windows 2000 Mail Server. > > Now I have some questions: > > (1) Why can I send email to other users, but I can't receive email > from other users? For a test, I send the email to myself, but I > still can't receive it? > > (2) I downloaded the binary codes of pine-bin.sun58 and imapd-bin.sun58. > Where can I find the files of pine.info, pine.conf, and pine.conf.fixed? > > Thanks, > Hong > > > -- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 4 04:09:28 2002 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 04:09:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g04BfIV6028584 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 03:41:29 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 04 03:39:16 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g04BdF11012222; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 03:39:15 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g04Bck416756; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 03:38:46 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g04BbNn22948 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 03:37:23 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 04 03:37:22 2002 -0800 Received: from lantana.iitm.ernet.in (lantana.tenet.res.in [202.144.28.166]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g04Bb9TA017275 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 03:37:20 -0800 Received: from localhost (bharathi@localhost) by lantana.iitm.ernet.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g04Bb8d26401; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:07:14 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:07:08 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: S Bharathi To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: i18n Support In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bob Rasmussen X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 19 On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Bob Rasmussen wrote: > On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, S Bharathi wrote: > > What is display-filters ? I have no idea about it. > .pinerc File: > display-filters=_charset(big5)_ ~/viewutf8 big5, > _charset(windows-1250)_ ~/viewutf8 windows-1250, [ snip ] > Regards, > ....Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. Very Nice Feature. :) Kindly give your suggestions to proceed my work. How to apply the modification i doing for P4.33 to New Versions ? Thank you, Regards, Bharathi S. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 4 09:40:56 2002 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 09:40:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g04HesV6024152 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 09:40:54 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 04 09:40:44 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g04Heh11019693; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 09:40:43 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g04He6218886; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 09:40:06 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g04HTon118112 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 09:30:22 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 04 09:29:50 2002 -0800 Received: from mailgate.ias.edu (mailgate.ias.edu [192.16.204.20]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g04HTmVK004041 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 09:29:49 -0800 Received: from pico.admin.ias.edu (pico.admin.ias.edu [198.138.242.10]) by mailgate.ias.edu (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20227; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:29:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by pico.admin.ias.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:28:05 -0500 Message-Id: <9B3CEA6AE680D41190DB00508B0EA5DCCF3FE2@pico.admin.ias.edu> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:28:04 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Hong Tian To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Basic (Clear Text) using SSL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-To: "'Pine Discussion Forum'" X-Cc: "'htian@ias.edu'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 20 Hi, I install the pine on Unix (Solaris 8) workstations which can receive email from our Exchange IMAP Server. But when I change "IMAP Site Defaults Properties" from "Basic (Clear Text)" to "Basic (Clear Text) using SSL", the Unix user couldn't login the Exchange server anymore. Should I use encryption version of pine to resolve it or are there other solutions? Thanks, Hong -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 11:34:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g04JYiV6020962 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 11:34:45 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 04 11:34:33 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g04JYWpr020035; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 11:34:33 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g04JYBb23116; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 11:34:11 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g04JX9n113862 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 11:33:09 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 04 11:33:08 2002 -0800 Received: from mailgate.ias.edu (mailgate.ias.edu [192.16.204.20]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g04JX7TA032219 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 11:33:07 -0800 Received: from pico.admin.ias.edu (pico.admin.ias.edu [198.138.242.10]) by mailgate.ias.edu (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23132; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:33:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by pico.admin.ias.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:31:23 -0500 Message-Id: <9B3CEA6AE680D41190DB00508B0EA5DCCF3FE5@pico.admin.ias.edu> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:31:22 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Hong Tian To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine & Exchanger with SSL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: "'htian@ias.edu'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 21 How could Unix Pine clients access Exchange server with SSL? Thanks. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:10:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g04KAtV6024010 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:10:56 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 04 12:10:52 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g04KAppr021192; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:10:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g04KAW527950; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:10:32 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g04K9en72906 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:09:40 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 04 12:09:39 2002 -0800 Received: from moultrie.cse.sc.edu ([129.252.138.7]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g04K9dTA009466 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:09:39 -0800 Received: from mum.cse.sc.edu (mum.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.21]) by moultrie.cse.sc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7491FA25 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:09:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:09:38 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine & Exchanger with SSL In-Reply-To: <9B3CEA6AE680D41190DB00508B0EA5DCCF3FE5@pico.admin.ias.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gopalan@mum.cse.sc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 22 Couldn't you wait two hours for a reply? This is a mailing list spanning many time zones, and people are under no obligation to answer you anyway. Have some patience, and lower your expectations. And stop posting the same question multiple times to the list. On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Hong Tian wrote: > How could Unix Pine clients access Exchange server with SSL? The server definition should be your.mail.server/ssl You may need to add the /pop3 and/or /user= flags as well. If you are using a self-signed certificate, then you may also have to add the /novalidate-cert flag. -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cse.sc.edu http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:17:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g04KHGV6028598 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:17:17 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 04 12:17:14 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g04KHEpr021370; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:17:14 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g04KGv416822; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:16:58 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g04KGFn141380 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:16:15 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 04 12:16:14 2002 -0800 Received: from moultrie.cse.sc.edu ([129.252.138.7]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g04KGETA011244 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:16:14 -0800 Received: from mum.cse.sc.edu (mum.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.21]) by moultrie.cse.sc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E401FA25 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:16:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:16:14 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine.info and pine.conf In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gopalan@mum.cse.sc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 23 On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Arun Prabhakaran wrote: > To get pine.conf type: > > pine -conf > pine.conf > > and u will get a fresh pine.conf file. Yes, but the output of pine.conf is overkill. There is a whole bunch of empty definitions which could be left out, and other unnecessary verbage totalling about 16kB. With just the options I need it it for my site, the pine.conf file is 195 bytes. Pine needs to parse these files at startup. Why slow it down? -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cse.sc.edu http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:30:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g04KUNV6001416 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:30:23 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 04 12:30:21 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g04KUL11024881; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:30:21 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g04KU0528028; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:30:00 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g04KTZn65626 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:29:35 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 04 12:29:34 2002 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g04KTYTA014472 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:29:34 -0800 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g04KTXK382937; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:29:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:29:33 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine & Exchanger with SSL In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Gopi Sundaram X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 24 *** Gopi Sundaram (gopalan@cs.sc.edu) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) Couldn't you wait two hours for a reply? This is a mailing list :) spanning many time zones, and people are under no obligation to answer :) you anyway. Have some patience, and lower your expectations. And stop :) posting the same question multiple times to the list. Dear Gopi, Can you send this type of comment (that is to say, something that makes you angry which is not related to Pine) in personal e-mail rather than send it to the list?, I personally dislike to read them. Thank you for your consideration -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:40:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g04KeLV6013908 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:40:22 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 04 12:40:13 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g04KeCpr022103; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:40:12 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g04Kdr204794; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:39:54 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g04KdJn131420 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:39:19 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 04 12:39:18 2002 -0800 Received: from InterGate.southcoast.net (intergate.southcoast.net [206.245.213.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g04KdHm1001657 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:39:17 -0800 Received: from [206.245.213.119] (sub119.southcoast.net [206.245.213.119]) by InterGate.southcoast.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA29718 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:49:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:36:34 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: John Wolf To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PINE for Windows Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 25 Hello; I am new to this list. I am a former user of Pine. I am anxious to no if any of you knows about whether or not a Pine for Windows or WindowsCe exists? I rather enjoyed the speed and functionality of Pine. Its something current versions of popular email programs are lacking. Any help will beappreciated. Jonn ___________________________________________________________________ Visit my new Three Stooges page http://www.southcoast.net/johnw/stooges John 6:35 Then Jesus declared, "I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never go hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:11:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g055BEV6017689 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:11:15 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 04 21:11:13 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g055BD11004299; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:11:13 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g055Ak228996; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:10:46 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0559tn54314 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:09:55 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 04 21:09:54 2002 -0800 Received: from smtp6.andrew.cmu.edu (SMTP6.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.86]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0559sTA011000 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:09:54 -0800 Received: from pooh (DYN-77-216.WV.CC.CMU.EDU [128.2.77.216]) by smtp6.andrew.cmu.edu (8.12.2.Beta3/8.12.2.Beta3) with ESMTP id g0559q4k026148 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 00:09:52 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 00:09:52 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Shan-leung Maverick WOO To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PCPine's font script suggestion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: maverick@postoffice.srv.cs.cmu.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 26 Hello, I believe PCPine's pinerc does not store the script setting in the font selection dialog (Config->Set Window Font). May I suggest this be fixed in the future if that is the case? This setting is important in Windows (2000 and later) because it allows PCPine to use display non-English messages with the correct font installed. Without persistence, the font script has to be set manually every time Pine launches. But if the Normal font color is not one of the 16 standard colors shown in the dialog, then it will be changed. This is undesirable because then the color has to be changed manually in the color setup... I realize this may be a rare case as well as windows specific, but please consider storing the font script in pinerc in the future. Thanks! -- All the best, Maverick Woo -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 03:24:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g05BNSV6018227 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 03:23:44 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Jan 05 03:00:18 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g05B0I11009764; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 03:00:18 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g05Axe420754; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 02:59:40 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g05Aw7n167352 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 02:58:07 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Jan 05 02:58:04 2002 -0800 Received: from msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.149]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g05Aw33F011567 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 02:58:03 -0800 Received: from 213-78-42-165.friaco.onetel.net.uk (213-78-42-165.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.42.165]) by msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id ACL18297; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 10:57:54 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:06:29 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PINE for Windows In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine! Info @ www.ii.com X-X-Sender: nancy@imap.iecc.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 27 On 4 Jan 2002 John Wolf (johnw@Southcoast.net) wrote: > I am a former user of Pine. I am anxious to > no if any of you knows about whether or not a Pine for Windows or > WindowsCe exists? I rather enjoyed the speed and functionality of > Pine. Its something current versions of popular email programs are > lacking. Pine exists for MS Windows but afaik it doesn't exist for WinCE. I have exhaustive instructions for setting up PC-Pine for Power users here I've just updated so it now includes some info about the euro sign and a lot more... Hope you like PC-Pine's speed and functionality! Nancy ^x -- ii Main Pine Page: Nancy McGough Infinite Ink --= Sent via Pine 4.43: IMAP, NNTP & ESMTP for Unix/Win/MacOS X =-- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:29:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g05JTaV6002763 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:29:36 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Jan 05 11:29:32 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g05JTV11017655; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:29:31 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g05JSs220982; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:28:55 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g05JRvn54384 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:27:57 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Jan 05 11:27:56 2002 -0800 Received: from InterGate.southcoast.net (intergate.southcoast.net [206.245.213.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g05JRuTA030575 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:27:56 -0800 Received: from [206.245.213.118] (sub118.southcoast.net [206.245.213.118]) by InterGate.southcoast.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA19320; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:38:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:25:04 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: John Wolf To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PINE for Windows In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-To: Nancy McGough X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 28 Thanks I will give it a shot. John At 11:06 AM +0000 1/5/02, Nancy McGough wrote: >On 4 Jan 2002 John Wolf (johnw@Southcoast.net) wrote: >> I am a former user of Pine. I am anxious to >> no if any of you knows about whether or not a Pine for Windows or >> WindowsCe exists? I rather enjoyed the speed and functionality of >> Pine. Its something current versions of popular email programs are >> lacking. > >Pine exists for MS Windows but afaik it doesn't exist for WinCE. >I have exhaustive instructions for setting up PC-Pine for Power >users here > > > >I've just updated so it now includes some info about the euro >sign and a lot more... > >Hope you like PC-Pine's speed and functionality! >Nancy >^x > > >-- >ii Main Pine Page: > >Nancy McGough Infinite Ink >--= Sent via Pine 4.43: IMAP, NNTP & ESMTP for Unix/Win/MacOS X =-- ___________________________________________________________________ Visit my new Three Stooges page http://www.southcoast.net/johnw/stooges John 6:35 Then Jesus declared, "I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never go hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:44:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g05Ji3V6023879 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:44:04 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Jan 05 11:43:56 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g05Jhtpr015099; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:43:55 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g05Jhb233406; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:43:37 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g05Jgmn78286 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:42:48 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Jan 05 11:42:48 2002 -0800 Received: from mail.vo.com ([208.36.81.99]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g05Jgkm1016079 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:42:47 -0800 Received: from gandolph.ASGARD.jms (alexhome2 [66.108.152.69]) by mail.vo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g05Jgimq000744 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 14:42:45 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 14:44:14 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "S. Alexander Jacobson" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: html messages In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: alex@mail.vo.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 29 PC-Pine does not appear to render html messages correctly unless they have a charset. So this works: content-type: text/html; charset="ascii" But this doesn't: content-type: text/html Any fix? -Alex- ___________________________________________________________________ S. Alexander Jacobson i2x Media 1-212-787-1814 voice 1-603-288-1280 fax -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 04:53:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g06CrCV6030624 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 04:53:12 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 06 04:53:05 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g06Cr5pr030910; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 04:53:05 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g06CqS422424; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 04:52:28 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g06Cosn59654 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 04:50:54 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 06 04:50:54 2002 -0800 Received: from msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.149]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g06CorVK010869 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 04:50:53 -0800 Received: from 213-78-19-49.friaco.onetel.net.uk (213-78-19-49.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.19.49]) by msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id ACM15207; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 12:50:32 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 12:59:19 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: selectable-item-nobold??? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Technical Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine! Info @ www.ii.com X-X-Sender: nancy@imap.iecc.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 30 I'm having some weirdnesses with bolding so I looked in my pinerc to try to figure out what was going on. I discovered this in my feature-list selectable-item-nobold What is this feature and why is it not available in the Pine Config screen and not mentioned anywhere on the PIC? Thanks, Nancy ^x -- ii Main Pine Page: Nancy McGough Infinite Ink --= Sent via Pine 4.43: IMAP, NNTP & ESMTP for Unix/Win/MacOS X =-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 04:29:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g07CTNV6024763 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 04:29:24 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jan 07 04:29:22 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g07CTL11023595; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 04:29:21 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g07CSf517058; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 04:28:41 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g07CInn45918 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 04:18:49 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jan 07 04:18:45 2002 -0800 Received: from jpunix.com (cs2416751-113.houston.rr.com [24.167.51.113]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g07CIiVK031305 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 04:18:45 -0800 Received: from localhost (perry@localhost) by jpunix.com (8.11.6/linuxconf) with ESMTP id g07CIcW13760 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 06:18:38 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 06:18:22 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: John Perry To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Sig file not working in roles? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Mailing List X-URL: http://www.jpunix.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 31 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello Everyone, I was playing with setting up an alternate role when I post news. I went to the signature location line, typed in the full path to the sig file I wanted, but it shows blank in the composer. Literal sigs work fine. I checked and double-checked to no avail. I'm running 4.43. Any thoughts? - -- John Perry perry@jpunix.com PGP-encrypted e-mail welcome! http://www.jpunix.com PGP/GPG key 164BDBAE -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: pgpenvelope 2.10.1 - http://pgpenvelope.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQE8OZIb7YSEAxZL264RApebAJ9XLbSMK1+TAV84oV7sUrTbF5N3ZgCg3BSa L2ECMQvZLImjM8pXgkUE6i8= =a3xS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:51:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g085prV6000151 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:51:54 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jan 07 21:51:52 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g085pq11018515; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:51:52 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g085pK208442; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:51:21 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g085o6n39068 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:50:06 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jan 07 21:50:05 2002 -0800 Received: from nimbus.anzio.com ([66.129.212.98]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g085o4m1022332 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:50:05 -0800 Received: from localhost (ras@localhost) by nimbus.anzio.com (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g085agg17976; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:36:47 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:36:42 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bob Rasmussen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: i18n Support In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: S Bharathi X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 32 On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, S Bharathi wrote: > On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Bob Rasmussen wrote: > > On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, S Bharathi wrote: > > > > What is display-filters ? I have no idea about it. > > .pinerc File: > > > display-filters=_charset(big5)_ ~/viewutf8 big5, > > _charset(windows-1250)_ ~/viewutf8 windows-1250, > [ snip ] > > > Regards, > > ....Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. > > Very Nice Feature. :) > > Kindly give your suggestions to proceed my work. > How to apply the modification i doing for P4.33 to New Versions ? There are some automated ways of comparing files ("diff") and merging the changes into a new file, that will work IF there are not changes in the newly released versions in the same area. My own approach is just to comment my changes in such a way that I can grep for them, and then reapply them manually. Regards, ....Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: ras@anzio.com company e-mail: rsi@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 01:30:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g089UbV6019910 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 01:30:38 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 08 01:30:30 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g089UU11022307; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 01:30:30 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g089Tr534094; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 01:29:53 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g089Sdn175346 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 01:28:39 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 08 01:28:35 2002 -0800 Received: from wiberg.nu (as3-6-5.asp.s.bonet.se [217.215.37.155]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g089SXTA011730 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 01:28:34 -0800 Received: (qmail 32917 invoked by uid 1000); 8 Jan 2002 09:28:25 -0000 Message-Id: <20020108102825.C16943@wiberg.nu> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 10:28:25 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Daniel Wiberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Folders overview Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 33 Hi Pineusers! Is there a way to get a reasonable overview of which mailfolders contains new email, and get Pine to report new mail in all (or some chosen) mailfolders? I saw an e-mail about this in the list back in nov -99 but that was never answered..... BR, Daniel Wiberg -- www.wiberg.nu -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 06:35:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g08EZsV6029629 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 06:35:54 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 08 06:35:50 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08EZnpr026006; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 06:35:50 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g08EZM571148; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 06:35:22 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g08EY3n70482 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 06:34:03 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 08 06:34:03 2002 -0800 Received: from server1.shellworld.net (server1.shellworld.net [64.39.15.178]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08EY2m1016910 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 06:34:02 -0800 Received: from localhost (fairall@localhost) by server1.shellworld.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g08EY1168791 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 08:34:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from fairall@ns.shellworld.net) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 09:34:01 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Leslie Fairall To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Sending Multiple Attachments In-Reply-To: <20020108102825.C16943@wiberg.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: fairall@server1.shellworld.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 34 Is there an easy way to send multiple attachments with Unix pine without typing in all of the names of the files? When you press control-t, is there a way to select multiple filenames instead of going back to the composition screen and having to hit control-t and s multiple times. Thanks. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 06:47:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g08ElCV6031077 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 06:47:12 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 08 06:47:10 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08El9pr026251; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 06:47:10 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g08Ekm234536; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 06:46:48 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g08Ejun175168 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 06:45:58 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 08 06:45:56 2002 -0800 Received: from mail.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [193.74.243.200]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08Ejp3F008990 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 06:45:54 -0800 Received: from cactus.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [10.17.0.27]) by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA18645 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:45:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (piotr@localhost) by cactus.sonytel.be (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g08EjlJ18656 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:45:47 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:45:47 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Murphy To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Sending Multiple Attachments In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: NEWS - Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: cactus.sonytel.be: piotr owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: piotr@cactus.sonytel.be X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 35 >Is there an easy way to send multiple attachments with Unix pine without >typing in all of the names of the files? When you press control-t, is >there a way to select multiple filenames instead of going back to the >composition screen and having to hit control-t and s multiple times. My simply solution is: 1) open pine in the right directory 2) type from the oter terminal in this directory: for i in `/bin/ls` ; do echo -n "$i, "; done 3) copy the output of this command into the "Attachment" field (without the last coma) That's it. But it would by nice to have a choice to select more tan one attachment from the file browser like it is for example in the addressbook when we select more than one address at the time. Regards, Murhy -- __ __ || || -++- -++- -------------------------------------------------------- ||\ /|| e-mail: murphy@pulstar.albedo.art.pl GG 107745 || || Everything is possible - this is only a question of time \/564\/ -------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 07:27:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g08FRnV6028831 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 07:27:50 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 08 07:27:48 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08FRlpr027011; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 07:27:47 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g08FRB423772; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 07:27:11 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g08FQdn38522 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 07:26:39 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 08 07:26:35 2002 -0800 Received: from moultrie.cse.sc.edu ([129.252.138.7]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08FQZTA015733 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 07:26:35 -0800 Received: from mum.cse.sc.edu (mum.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.21]) by moultrie.cse.sc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B7CC1FA25 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 10:26:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 10:26:34 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Folders overview In-Reply-To: <20020108102825.C16943@wiberg.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gopalan@mum.cse.sc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 36 On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Daniel Wiberg wrote: > Is there a way to get a reasonable overview of which mailfolders > contains new email, and get Pine to report new mail in all (or some > chosen) mailfolders? FAQ. http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/other.html#filtermail -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cse.sc.edu http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 13:34:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g08LY8V6031246 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 13:34:10 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 08 13:34:01 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08LY0pr006350; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 13:34:00 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g08LXT215072; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 13:33:29 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g08LVxn161506 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 13:31:59 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 08 13:31:58 2002 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g08LVwTA027173 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 13:31:58 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 08 13:31:57 2002 -0800 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08LVv11007462 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 13:31:57 -0800 Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.12]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08LVvQX015311 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 13:31:57 -0800 Received: from [128.95.135.163] (D-128-95-135-163.dhcp.washington.edu [128.95.135.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08LVvkg022718 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 13:31:57 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 13:31:57 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: selectable-item-nobold??? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine News Group X-X-Sender: hubert@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 37 This feature is not controlled from the Setup/Config screen. If you go to Setup/Kolor and look at Selectable-item Color, you will see that you can have the selected item be bold or not. The feature selectable-item-nobold is where pine stores this configuration information. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, Nancy McGough wrote: > I'm having some weirdnesses with bolding so I looked in my pinerc > to try to figure out what was going on. I discovered this in my > feature-list > > selectable-item-nobold > > What is this feature and why is it not available in the Pine > Config screen and not mentioned anywhere on the PIC? > > Thanks, > Nancy > ^x From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:42:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g08MgfV6019568 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:42:42 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 08 14:42:40 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08Mgdpr008549; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:42:39 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g08Mfl405240; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:41:47 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g08MPUn31014 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:25:30 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 08 14:25:30 2002 -0800 Received: from mail.vo.com ([208.36.81.99]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08MPTm1016701 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:25:29 -0800 Received: from gandolph.ASGARD.jms (alexhome2 [66.108.152.69]) by mail.vo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g08MPRmq032752 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 17:25:28 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 17:27:01 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "S. Alexander Jacobson" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: compose delay In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: alex@mail.vo.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 38 Whenever I choose to compose a new message and not continue composing a suspended message, I experience a very high latency before I am allowed to start writing. Any idea why? I am using PCPIne 4.43 with SSL -Alex- ___________________________________________________________________ S. Alexander Jacobson i2x Media 1-212-787-1914 voice 1-603-288-1280 fax -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:49:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g08MnfV6014250 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:49:42 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 08 14:49:39 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08Mncpr008782; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:49:38 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g08MnJ527376; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:49:19 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g08Mmdn91946 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:48:39 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 08 14:48:38 2002 -0800 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08MmcTA018122 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:48:38 -0800 Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.12]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08MmcQX031491; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:48:38 -0800 Received: from [128.95.135.163] (D-128-95-135-163.dhcp.washington.edu [128.95.135.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08Mmbkg023556 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:48:38 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:48:37 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Color support under FreeBSD In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Kim Scarborough X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: hubert@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 39 The messed up display happens because your terminal emulator scrolls when a character is written to the bottom right hand character cell. Pine writes in that cell if you have the KeyLabel color set in order to color the background. We used to not write that last cell and several people complained that the color in the lower right hand corner was incorrect, which it was. You can fix it by turning of KeyLabel Color. You might be able to fix it by adjusting a setting in your terminal emulator so that it doesn't scroll when the last character on the screen is written. Or you can fix it by editing screen.c the way you have, which should cause the wrong color character in the lower-right corner of the screen. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Kim Scarborough wrote: > A little late piping up in this thread, sorry... > > > With color support turned on (no matter which one of the three options > > that are available is selected), the screen gets pretty much messed up. All > > lines seem to get redrawn exactly one line below their original position. > > As a result of that, the entries in pine's menues get displayed twice, and > > that just looks kind of strange. > > I've been complaining about this bug since 4.20. Somebody sent me a patch > for it and said he submitted it, but it was never committed. I don't > want to be a pest, but I have to apply that patch with each new version. > Is there a way to find out what's going on with this? > > By the way, the fix is to change line 210 in pine/screen.c from > "if(i == 1 && !label_color)" to > "if(i == 1)". > > I've lost the name of the fellow who sent it to me, unfortunately... > hopefully he's still on this list. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Kim Scarborough http://www.unknown.nu/kim/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:52:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g08MqhV6002350 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:52:45 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 08 14:52:42 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08Mqfpr008864; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:52:41 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g08MqOb25828; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:52:24 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g08MpYn45184 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:51:34 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 08 14:51:33 2002 -0800 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08MpX3F014239 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:51:33 -0800 Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08MpUQX032179; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:51:30 -0800 Received: from [128.95.135.163] (D-128-95-135-163.dhcp.washington.edu [128.95.135.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08MpUvb018621 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:51:30 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:51:29 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: compose delay In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "S. Alexander Jacobson" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: hubert@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 40 Try running pine with command line flags pine -dverbose=9,timestamp,imap=4 and then look for the delay in the debug file. This should give you a clue about where the delay is happening. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, S. Alexander Jacobson wrote: > Whenever I choose to compose a new message and not > continue composing a suspended message, I > experience a very high latency before I am allowed > to start writing. Any idea why? > > I am using PCPIne 4.43 with SSL > > -Alex- > > ___________________________________________________________________ > S. Alexander Jacobson i2x Media > 1-212-787-1914 voice 1-603-288-1280 fax From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:04:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g08N4qV6009393 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:04:56 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 08 15:04:51 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08N4ppr009316; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:04:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g08N4Q524438; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:04:26 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g08N3Xn58996 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:03:34 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 08 15:03:33 2002 -0800 Received: from mail.vo.com ([208.36.81.99]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08N3W3F017727 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:03:33 -0800 Received: from gandolph.ASGARD.jms (alexhome2 [66.108.152.69]) by mail.vo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g08N3Tmq008941 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Jan 2002 18:03:30 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 18:05:03 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "S. Alexander Jacobson" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: compose delay In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Steve Hubert X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: alex@mail.vo.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 41 Ok, I did that. It appears to want to download my entire suspended messages folder before asking me whether I want to continue with a suspended message. Is there a way to make it download my suspended message folder only after I say Yes to wanting to continue with a suspended message? -Alex- On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Steve Hubert wrote: > Try running pine with command line flags > > pine -dverbose=9,timestamp,imap=4 > > and then look for the delay in the debug file. This should give you a clue > about where the delay is happening. > > -- > Steve Hubert > Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle > > On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, S. Alexander Jacobson wrote: > > > Whenever I choose to compose a new message and not > > continue composing a suspended message, I > > experience a very high latency before I am allowed > > to start writing. Any idea why? > > > > I am using PCPIne 4.43 with SSL > > > > -Alex- > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > S. Alexander Jacobson i2x Media > > 1-212-787-1914 voice 1-603-288-1280 fax > > ___________________________________________________________________ S. Alexander Jacobson i2x Media 1-212-787-1914 voice 1-603-288-1280 fax From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:09:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g08N8wV6027844 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:08:59 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 08 15:08:56 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08N8upr009462; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:08:56 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g08N8d414512; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:08:39 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g08N7un11432 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:07:56 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 08 15:07:55 2002 -0800 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08N7tVK013675 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:07:55 -0800 Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.12]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08N7qQX003293; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:07:52 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g08N7qkg023754 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:07:52 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:07:52 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: compose delay In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "S. Alexander Jacobson" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: hubert@shiva1.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 42 You could set the feature 'alternate-compose-menu'. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 16:25:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g0A0OxV6014804 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 16:25:00 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 09 16:24:58 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0A0Owpr013338; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 16:24:58 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0A0NM545540; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 16:23:23 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0A0J1n172482 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 16:19:02 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 09 16:19:01 2002 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g0A0J1TA032179 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 16:19:01 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 09 16:19:00 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0A0Igpr013176; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 16:18:42 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0A0IV508178; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 16:18:31 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g09Nobn119920 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 15:50:37 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 09 15:50:36 2002 -0800 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g09Noa3F006943 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 15:50:36 -0800 Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.12]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g09NoaQX004621 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 15:50:36 -0800 Received: from [128.95.135.163] (D-128-95-135-163.dhcp.washington.edu [128.95.135.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g09NoZkg007530 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 15:50:36 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 15:50:31 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.44 now available MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: PINE-ANNOUNCE-owner@u.washington.edu X-To: Pine Announcement List X-X-Sender: hubert@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 43 This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System version 4.44. The purpose of this release is to fix a security bug with the treatment of quotes in the URL-handling code. The bug allows a malicious sender to embed commands in a URL. This bug is present in all versions of UNIX Pine. There is no vulnerability from this bug in PC-Pine. The release notes are available from within Pine ("R" command off the Main Menu) and via http://www.washington.edu/pine/changes.html and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/ Source for the latest Pine release is available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz Precompiled binaries for the various systems we have direct access to are available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed The corresponding PC-Pine distribution is available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/pm444w32.zip As with all Pine releases, it is important that you carefully test and determine for yourself that it performs suitably in your environment before placing Pine into production use. The Pine Development Team -- ------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html ------------------------------------------------------------- -- ------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html ------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 16:36:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g0A0a6V6001116 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 16:36:11 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 09 16:36:04 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0A0a411014133; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 16:36:04 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0A0Zab20126; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 16:35:36 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0A0SJn05108 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 16:28:19 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 09 16:28:18 2002 -0800 Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.0.212]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0A0SHm1000891 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 16:28:17 -0800 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (localhost.panix.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6970B4876E for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 19:28:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 16:28:14 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Kenneth Crudup To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.44 now available In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: kenny@ProStar.localdomain X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 44 On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Steve Hubert wrote: > The purpose of this release is to fix a security > bug with the treatment of quotes in the URL-handling code. The bug > allows a malicious sender to embed commands in a URL. This bug is > present in all versions of UNIX Pine. There is no vulnerability from > this bug in PC-Pine. Can you explain? The URL I get is passed to a script that changes commas into "%2D"s then runs that past nutscrape. I can't see how someone could get into my box that way. -Kenny -- Kenneth R. Crudup Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Washington, D.C. Home1: PO Box 914 Silver Spring, MD 20910-0914 kenny@panix.com Home2: 38010 Village Cmn. #217 Fremont, CA 94536-7525 (510) 745-0101 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 20:00:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g0A40OV6018440 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 20:00:25 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 09 20:00:21 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0A40Lpr017900; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 20:00:21 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0A3xp420458; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 19:59:52 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0A3vOn155646 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 19:57:24 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 09 19:57:23 2002 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0A3vNTA011539 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 19:57:23 -0800 Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0A3vMK164495; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 19:57:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 19:57:21 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.44 now available In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Kenneth Crudup X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 45 *** Kenneth Crudup (kenny@panix.com) wrote today: > On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Steve Hubert wrote: > > > The purpose of this release is to fix a security > > bug with the treatment of quotes in the URL-handling code. The bug > > allows a malicious sender to embed commands in a URL. This bug is > > present in all versions of UNIX Pine. There is no vulnerability from > > this bug in PC-Pine. > > Can you explain? The URL I get is passed to a script that changes > commas into "%2D"s then runs that past nutscrape. I can't see how > someone could get into my box that way. > Read the following thread in Bugtraq: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=bugtraq/Pine.LNX.4.33.0201051514170.25654-100000%40clarity.local I am still unable to reproduce what it says there, even when I copied and pasted the html code, and created an html e-mail with it. I don't see the exploit. It may be shell or system dependent, but I can confidently say that no one can exploit this ``bug'' in my system. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 21:19:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g0A5JgV6014809 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 21:19:43 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 09 21:19:35 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0A5JZ11019727; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 21:19:35 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0A4xBx05494; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 20:59:11 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0A4uXn158690 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 20:56:34 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 09 20:56:32 2002 -0800 Received: from hotmail.com (f70.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.70]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0A4uV3F031874 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 20:56:31 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 20:56:31 -0800 Received: from 147.11.36.25 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 04:56:31 GMT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 04:56:31 +0000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Pierre Rocher" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: TAB does not detect new messages in incoming folders Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Originating-IP: [147.11.36.25] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jan 2002 04:56:31.0429 (UTC) FILETIME=[2BA0DF50:01C19993] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 46 Hi, I don't seem to find answers to the following from the archive. Can someone help? 1. I recently added my own filter rules (using 4.43) so that matching messages will be moved to one of the Incoming Message Collection folders. In INBOX index, hitting TAB when cursor is at the last message, it loops thru the folders "Checking XXX for recent messages" and eventually "No more incoming folders" is displayed. However, it does not flag or display messages with new or important flag in any of the folders there. If the folder is opened then hit TAB, then TAB works for messages in the current folder. (note this is not the same issue of enable-circular-tab Eduardo has a patch for.) Tried on Solaris 2.5.1 and 2.7 and 2.8. This makes it pain to get new messages by opening each. (I'm filtering to about 20 folders!) It sounds like this is working for some ppl. Whats the trick? (my primary inbox is pop3, while the other folders in the incoming msg collection are plain files on nfs, local or remote) 2. I want to use the select cmd to select messages matching all the alt-addresses for to: and cc: (receipients) ie. select messages directly to or cc me (+ and - marked in index view if mark-for-cc is enabled). Is it possible? 3. Filter does not seem to match if the messge is missing a header field. eg. match from-pattern=someone@domain.edu AND subject-pattern=abc The message with the from and subject matching the above but do not have a "To:" in the header, then the filter fail to match the message. 4. Can I expunge current message? (with an anonying 2MB attachment, but don't want to expunge all with D flag) TIA P.Rocher _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 23:41:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g0A7exV6026137 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 23:40:59 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 09 23:40:57 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0A7ev11022084; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 23:40:57 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0A7ea420432; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 23:40:36 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0A7dPn165902 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 23:39:25 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 09 23:39:21 2002 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g0A7dLm1004358 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 23:39:21 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 09 23:39:20 2002 -0800 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0A7dKpr021603 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 23:39:20 -0800 Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0A7dKQX007268; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 23:39:20 -0800 Received: from shiva0.cac.washington.edu (shiva0.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.200]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0A7dKvb007613 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 9 Jan 2002 23:39:20 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 23:39:20 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.44 now available In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eduardo Chappa , Kenneth Crudup X-Cc: Pine News Group X-X-Sender: hubert@shiva0.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 47 If the url looks like http://domain';command' I think you'll get command executed. The IFS stuff will only work if you have SHELL=/bin/sh or similar in your environment, I think. The example I saw had an ampersand in place of the semicolon, which doesn't work for me. Steve From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:18:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g0A8I3V6012021 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:18:03 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 10 00:17:59 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0A8Hw11022772; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:17:59 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0A8Hd410562; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:17:40 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0A8Ftn137414 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:15:55 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 10 00:15:54 2002 -0800 Received: from msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.149]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0A8FrTA013850 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:15:54 -0800 Received: from [213.78.42.244] ([213.78.42.244]) by msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id ACP51185; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 08:15:49 GMT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 08:25:09 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: TAB does not detect new messages in incoming folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine! Info @ www.ii.com X-X-Sender: nancy@imap.iecc.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 48 On 10 Jan 2002 Pierre Rocher (procher@hotmail.com) wrote: > Hi, > > I don't seem to find answers to the following from the archive. Can > someone help? > > 1. I recently added my own filter rules (using 4.43) so that matching > messages will be moved to one of the Incoming Message Collection folders. In > INBOX index, hitting TAB when cursor is at the last message, it loops thru > the folders "Checking XXX for recent messages" and eventually "No more > incoming folders" is displayed. However, it does not flag or display > messages with new or important flag in any of the folders there. If the > folder is opened then hit TAB, then TAB works for messages in the current > folder. (note this is not the same issue of enable-circular-tab Eduardo has > a patch for.) Tried on Solaris 2.5.1 and 2.7 and 2.8. This makes it pain to > get new messages by opening each. (I'm filtering to about 20 folders!) It > sounds like this is working for some ppl. Whats the trick? > > (my primary inbox is pop3, while the other folders in the incoming msg > collection are plain files on nfs, local or remote) > > 2. I want to use the select cmd to select messages matching all the > alt-addresses for to: and cc: (receipients) ie. select messages directly to > or cc me (+ and - marked in index view if mark-for-cc is enabled). Is it > possible? > > 3. Filter does not seem to match if the messge is missing a header field. > eg. match from-pattern=someone@domain.edu AND subject-pattern=abc > The message with the from and subject matching the above but do not have a > "To:" in the header, then the filter fail to match the message. > > 4. Can I expunge current message? (with an anonying 2MB attachment, but > don't want to expunge all with D flag) > > TIA > P.Rocher > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Nancy ^x REFERENCE: The message I'm replying to -- and this entire thread & group -- may be available at -- ii Main Pine Page: ii Procmail QStart: Nancy McGough Infinite Ink --= Sent via Pine 4.43: IMAP, NNTP & ESMTP for Unix/Win/MacOS X =-- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:23:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g0A8NjV6000465 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:23:45 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 10 00:23:37 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0A8Nbpr022397; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:23:37 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0A8NL420222; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:23:21 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0A8MEn167316 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:22:14 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 10 00:22:13 2002 -0800 Received: from msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.149]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0A8MCTA014690 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:22:13 -0800 Received: from [213.78.42.244] ([213.78.42.244]) by msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id ACP51284; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 08:22:10 GMT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 08:31:30 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: TAB does not detect new messages in incoming folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine! Info @ www.ii.com X-X-Sender: nancy@imap.iecc.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 49 [Sorry about the no-new-content msg I just sent; I composed the msg below in my alt editor (gvim) and then did a write and quit (:wq) and came back to PC-Pine and pressed ^X. At that moment I noticed that my message wasn't in the Message Text area.... seems like a bug but I don't know if I can reproduce it!] On 10 Jan 2002 Pierre Rocher (procher@hotmail.com) wrote: > 1. I recently added my own filter rules (using 4.43) so that matching > messages will be moved to one of the Incoming Message Collection folders. In > INBOX index, hitting TAB when cursor is at the last message, it loops thru > the folders "Checking XXX for recent messages" and eventually "No more > incoming folders" is displayed. However, it does not flag or display > messages with new or important flag in any of the folders there. If the > folder is opened then hit TAB, then TAB works for messages in the current > folder. (note this is not the same issue of enable-circular-tab Eduardo has > a patch for.) Tried on Solaris 2.5.1 and 2.7 and 2.8. This makes it pain to > get new messages by opening each. (I'm filtering to about 20 folders!) It > sounds like this is working for some ppl. Whats the trick? Make sure this is unset [ ] enable-fast-recent-test Does that help?? > 2. I want to use the select cmd to select messages matching all the > alt-addresses for to: and cc: (receipients) ie. select messages directly to > or cc me (+ and - marked in index view if mark-for-cc is enabled). Is it > possible? One of my sample commands in this list on my main Pine page does this for +. W + CR W ^X Z (note CR = carriage return) display a virtual folder of all messages in the current folder or newsgroup that contain your email address, or one of your alt-addresses, in the To header This isn't exact because it matches any index line that contains a +. Another thing you can do is set up indexcolors using MSRI to color index lines that are to or cc you. > 4. Can I expunge current message? (with an anonying 2MB attachment, but > don't want to expunge all with D flag) Not that I know of but it would be nice to have a "delete & expunge" command in addition to delete (D) and expunge (X). Hope this helps, Nancy ^x -- ii Main Pine Page: Nancy McGough Infinite Ink --= Sent via Pine 4.43: IMAP, NNTP & ESMTP for Unix/Win/MacOS X =-- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:16:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g0A9GRV6005591 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:16:28 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 10 01:16:22 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0A9GM11023678; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:16:22 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0A9Ejb17054; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:14:46 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0A9E0n14608 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:14:01 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 10 01:13:57 2002 -0800 Received: from hotmail.com (f11.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.11]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0A9DuVK032024 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:13:57 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:13:56 -0800 Received: from 192.73.222.106 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:13:56 GMT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:13:56 +0000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Pierre Rocher" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: TAB does not detect new messages in incoming folders Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Originating-IP: [192.73.222.106] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jan 2002 09:13:56.0737 (UTC) FILETIME=[21BFD710:01C199B7] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 50 Thanks, Nancy. >Make sure this is unset > [ ] enable-fast-recent-test This is not set. Setting it makes it faster, but journal shows same. Still does not go to next new. :( >on my main Pine page does this for +. > W + CR W ^X Z This works very well. "+ " is even better. I don't have many "+" in my message index (in subject or sender's name). "- " is different, since quite some "space dash space" in subjects. Oh, you don't even need the CR. Just W "+ " ^X Z will do (typed without the quotes ""). Do one for "+ " (no zoom) and immediately "- ", and the selection adds the matches like Broaden select. Very nice. best regards, P.Rocher >From: Nancy McGough >To: Pine Discussion Forum >Subject: Re: TAB does not detect new messages in incoming folders >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 08:31:30 +0000 (GMT) > >[Sorry about the no-new-content msg I just sent; I composed the >msg below in my alt editor (gvim) and then did a write and quit >(:wq) and came back to PC-Pine and pressed ^X. At that moment I >noticed that my message wasn't in the Message Text area.... seems >like a bug but I don't know if I can reproduce it!] > >On 10 Jan 2002 Pierre Rocher (procher@hotmail.com) wrote: > > 1. I recently added my own filter rules (using 4.43) so that matching > > messages will be moved to one of the Incoming Message Collection >folders. In > > INBOX index, hitting TAB when cursor is at the last message, it loops >thru > > the folders "Checking XXX for recent messages" and eventually "No more > > incoming folders" is displayed. However, it does not flag or display > > messages with new or important flag in any of the folders there. If the > > folder is opened then hit TAB, then TAB works for messages in the >current > > folder. (note this is not the same issue of enable-circular-tab Eduardo >has > > a patch for.) Tried on Solaris 2.5.1 and 2.7 and 2.8. This makes it >pain to > > get new messages by opening each. (I'm filtering to about 20 folders!) >It > > sounds like this is working for some ppl. Whats the trick? > >Make sure this is unset > > [ ] enable-fast-recent-test > >Does that help?? > > > > 2. I want to use the select cmd to select messages matching all the > > alt-addresses for to: and cc: (receipients) ie. select messages >directly to > > or cc me (+ and - marked in index view if mark-for-cc is enabled). Is >it > > possible? > >One of my sample commands in this list > > > >on my main Pine page does this for +. > > W + CR W ^X Z > (note CR = carriage return) > > display a virtual folder of all messages in the current folder or > newsgroup that contain your email address, or one of your > alt-addresses, in the To header > >This isn't exact because it matches any index line that contains >a +. > >Another thing you can do is set up indexcolors using MSRI to >color index lines that are to or cc you. > > > > 4. Can I expunge current message? (with an anonying 2MB attachment, but > > don't want to expunge all with D flag) > >Not that I know of but it would be nice to have a "delete & >expunge" command in addition to delete (D) and expunge (X). > >Hope this helps, >Nancy >^x > >-- >ii Main Pine Page: > >Nancy McGough Infinite Ink >--= Sent via Pine 4.43: IMAP, NNTP & ESMTP for Unix/Win/MacOS X =-- > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:39:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g0A9dZV6002012 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:39:35 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 10 01:39:31 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0A9dUpr023510; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:39:30 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0A9dC518714; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:39:12 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0A9cRn50504 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:38:27 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 10 01:38:23 2002 -0800 Received: from penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.110]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0A9cM3F032633 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:38:22 -0800 Received: from madrid.ericsson.se (madrid.es.eu.ericsson.se [159.107.53.220]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.11.0/8.11.0/WIREfire-1.3) with SMTP id g0A9cKK08925 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:38:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from E00C04FFB5466 by madrid.ericsson.se (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA01163; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:38:15 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:38:19 +0100 (Romance Standard Time) Reply-To: bertrand.perez@ree.ericsson.se Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Bertrand PEREZ (REE)" To: Pine Discussion Forum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine INFO LIST X-message-flag: "Outlook: A program to spread viri, but it can do mail too!" X-X-Sender: reebepe@eestqnt104.es.eu.ericsson.se X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 51 Hi, could you please re-send me the URL for downloading PC-Pine 4.44 ? it is not visible from the web page (washington.edu/pine) which still points to 4.43. thks and bet regards/Bertrand -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 19:54:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g0B3sRV6012232 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 19:54:27 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 10 19:54:23 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0B3sNpr018598; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 19:54:23 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0B3rf405492; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 19:53:41 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0B3oKn67894 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 19:50:20 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 10 19:50:19 2002 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0B3oJVK007362; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 19:50:19 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0B3oJK252355; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 19:50:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 19:50:19 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.44 now available In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Steve Hubert X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 52 *** Steve Hubert (hubert@washington.edu) wrote in the pine-info list on Jan...: :) If the url looks like :) :) http://domain';command' :) :) I think you'll get command executed. The IFS stuff will only work if you :) have SHELL=/bin/sh or similar in your environment, I think. The example I :) saw had an ampersand in place of the semicolon, which doesn't work for me. That's what I tried too, but wouldn't work here. I think the IFS stuff was meant to make it write spaces. I tried this in a linux machine that I could get access to, and the ';command' would get executed, but only if it did not contain a space, so something like http://www';xv' would be executed but not http://www';xv picture.gif', because of the space, as you can see. Quite harmless, I think. I also noticed that Pine would not expand shell variables in URLs as it did before, that's a good change, I think. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 23:15:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g0B7FqV6000896 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 23:15:52 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 10 23:15:47 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0B7Fl11022233; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 23:15:47 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0B7FP415104; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 23:15:25 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0B7DEn145498 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 23:13:14 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 10 23:13:14 2002 -0800 Received: from msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.149]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0B7DDVK010711 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 23:13:13 -0800 Received: from 213-78-74-202.friaco.onetel.net.uk (213-78-74-202.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.74.202]) by msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id ACQ08368; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 07:13:00 GMT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 07:22:29 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PINE for Windows In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine! Info @ www.ii.com X-X-Sender: nancy@imap.iecc.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 53 On 10 Jan 2002 Infodesk (info@mailtraq.net) wrote: > > > > > > I've just updated so it now includes some info about the euro > > sign and a lot more... > > > I tried that Euro sign solution but it doesn't work here, all I get in > PcPine is a double letter combination being ^ and @ What euro sign solution are you referring to? I've tried to make it clear that the solution is to write EUR and not use the euro sign in email. Here's the relevant part of my Power Pine page: Unfortunately, there are currently many problems with using the euro sign in email and it is recommend that you type the string EUR instead of . For a discussion of the problems, including why you may not see the euro sign that is the last character of the previous sentence, see Jukka "Yucca" Korpela's the euro sign in HTML and in some other contexts. Maybe I need to rewrite this... Thanks, Nancy ^x -- ii Main Pine Page: Nancy McGough Infinite Ink --= Sent via Pine 4.44: IMAP, NNTP & ESMTP for Unix/Win/MacOS X =-- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 15:39:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g0BNdIV6028229 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 15:39:19 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 11 15:39:16 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0BNdGpr012458; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 15:39:16 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0BNcmx18100; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 15:38:48 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0BNb6n60808 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 15:37:06 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 11 15:37:06 2002 -0800 Received: from hotmail.com (f41.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.41]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0BNb5m1015375 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 15:37:05 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 15:37:05 -0800 Received: from 147.11.36.25 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 23:37:05 GMT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 23:37:05 +0000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Pierre Rocher" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: TAB does not detect new messages in incoming folders Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Originating-IP: [147.11.36.25] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jan 2002 23:37:05.0644 (UTC) FILETIME=[E0C1AAC0:01C19AF8] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 54 Hi, Thanks to Eduardo suggestion to use _IMAPSTATUS_ to examine the message status, I've identified a couple of bugs and got one of them fixed. The original problem: > hitting TAB when cursor is at the last message, it loops thru > the folders "Checking XXX for recent messages" and eventually "No > more incoming folders" is displayed. However, it does not flag > or display messages with new flag in any of the folders there. IMAPSTATUS provides the clue. Further tests suggest with the detailed status of IMAPSTATUS [N,R,U], TAB does find messages with the N flag, but not R nor U. There are two bugs: Bug 1: TAB only finds messages in the incoming collection folders with the "N" status only, where it should detect both "N" and "U" statuses. Bug 2: This is more obscure - messages which should be tagged with the "N" flag is tagged with the "U" flag instead. There is only one time where I saw a filtered msg folder gets the "N" status and TAB detected it. Cannot reproduce that again. Initially, I suspect the checking of folders resulted from the TAB implicitly does an open, causing msgs with N status to become U. However, with a filter-to folder already opened (current folder) and a new msg is filtered into it, the status is U immediately! The combination of bug 1 and 2 render the TAB key rather useless for checking new messages other than INBOX (for POP3 at least). The fix for Bug 1 is included below. I've built (what a nightmare) my own 4.44a version and tested this on my solaris to be working as I want. Bug 2 doesn't bother me since the message will be marked UNSEEN anyway, and TAB detects UNSEEN ones. % diff /usr/local/pine/pine4.44/pine/folder.c my/folder.c 7098c7098,7099 < !context_status(cntxt, stream, f->name, SA_RECENT)){ --- > !context_status(cntxt, stream, f->name, > SA_RECENT | SA_UNSEEN)){ 7104,7105c7105,7107 < rv = ((mm_status_result.flags & SA_RECENT) < && (*find_recent = mm_status_result.recent)) --- > rv = ((mm_status_result.flags & (SA_RECENT | SA_UNSEEN)) > && (*find_recent = > (mm_status_result.recent | >mm_status_result.unseen))) I wonder if SA_RECENT is even needed, but I don't really care since the executable works the way I wanted. Hope this will be fixed in next version, or someone grab it as a contrib patch. Best regards, P.Rocher _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 16:21:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g0C0L9V6021276 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 16:21:11 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 11 16:21:08 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0C0L711013674; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 16:21:07 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0C0Kp417006; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 16:20:51 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0C0Jln29952 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 16:19:48 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 11 16:19:47 2002 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0C0Jlm1026483 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 16:19:47 -0800 Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0C0JkK314574; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 16:19:46 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 16:19:45 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: TAB does not detect new messages in incoming folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pierre Rocher X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 55 *** Pierre Rocher (procher@hotmail.com) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) IMAPSTATUS provides the clue. Further tests suggest with the detailed :) status of IMAPSTATUS [N,R,U], TAB does find messages with the N flag, but :) not R nor U. There are two bugs: :) :) Bug 1: TAB only finds messages in the incoming collection folders with the :) "N" status only, where it should detect both "N" and "U" statuses. Hello Pierre, Tab only tries to find messages with the "N" flag. Messages with the "U" flag are messages that were in the folder the last time it was opened, but you either did not read them or decided to read them and flag them as new again. If you close that folder (without deleting that message), the next time it is opened you will see it marked with a "U". From here it follows that TAB is working correctly in your case, because IMAPSTATUS is telling you that somehow between the moment that the message was saved in the folder and the moment that TAB is doing the check, the folder was read or it was touched by some other process. It may be that by saving the files, the folder is considered to be opened. This should be the bug, I use Pine filters to filter messages from INBOX to an incoming folder and do not have this problem. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:43:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g0C2hbV6015714 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:43:38 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 11 18:43:33 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0C2hWpr016671; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:43:32 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0C2gr528198; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:42:53 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0C2g1n60758 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:42:01 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 11 18:41:16 2002 -0800 Received: from hotmail.com (f156.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.156]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0C2fF3F024522 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:41:15 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:41:15 -0800 Received: from 147.11.36.25 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 02:41:15 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 02:41:15 +0000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Pierre Rocher" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: TAB does not detect new messages in incoming folders Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Originating-IP: [147.11.36.25] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jan 2002 02:41:15.0295 (UTC) FILETIME=[9ADC9AF0:01C19B12] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 56 I have to disagree. Here are the reasons: 1. Pine traditionally collapses UNSEEN and NEW messages into one catagory represented by the "N" flag (unless the non-default IMAPSTATUS is used). Treating them differently while they both get status "N" violates the consistency. 2. When people cannot read all NEW email during each folder open session, it is crucial to allow people to treat the UNSEEN messages as NEW ones. This is in fact one of the reasons I choose pine over some other clients which forces read flag or moves the msgs away from inbox upon session exit. eg. I frequently dial up to read interesting/urgent messages only, leaving the uninteresting ones to be read when I go to the lab. While pine can tell me if there are NEW messages in a folder, I have to open the folder's index view to determine if any is interesting (by sender or subject). I then read the interesting ones, leaving others unread, and close the folder and eventually the pine session. Back in the lab, those non-NEW unread (aka UNSEEN ones) have the same meaning as new messages to me. 3. The intention of TAB is to check for NEW messages in the incoming folder collection. Let's think for a moment what is important to a person reading email: - the ability to tell apart a message that comes in after I opened the folder, and a message that came in before I opened the folder. - the ability to tell apart a message that has not been read, and a message that has been read (at least skim/scan its contents). Notice filtering to an incoming folder, one should treat such a folder as an inbox and not a folder to store messages. If you don't even bother if a message is briefly read or not, you can filter to a non-incoming folder. This seems to introduce the need of treating UNSEEN messages different between incoming folders and non-incomping folders, but fortunately, TAB mail checking has no notion for non-incoming folders. 4. To wrap up, if you think one wants to tell if messages have come in since the folder's last close (ie. TAB checks SA_RECENT only and not SA_UNSEEN), you are making the assumption that the person has skimmed thru all messages in that folder last time before closing it. In mordern days, most people get much more messages than those that are really destined to them or concern them, because of group aliases, news, junk mail, etc. A good portion of the new messages goes directly into the trash, and it's hard to finish the messages before closing the session. In the old days, one checks the mail twice a day and would be happy if gets copule of new messages. Remeber those days when pine resisted filters, because servers or external programs are better at the job? IMAP changed that by defining the norm of the public checks their mail from different domains, unix, pc, etc. Inbox and active files stay on the server, while archives (or more often over quota data) are kept on your own local host. Filtering email before email client accesses them will put the filtered messages onto a relatively-local file system which is against the IMAP idea, or is there any sysadmin wants everyone to run programs on the mail server so that the filtered messages are still on the server? Time has changed, and so should our concept on how things are done. Best regards, P.Rocher PS. Pine seems to use the term "recent" in different ways. The help doc says a message with the "R" flag means recent message, which is one that is "new to the folder and has been viewed." (see IMAPSTATUS "R") The flag SA_RECENT in the source is explained as "recent messages" which doesn't tell much, but obviously meaning "new" and/xor "unread" messages when examining closed folder for SA_RECENT messages. So one is viewed, one is not. I attribute this as the different meaning of "recent" between pine's interface to imap vs pine interface to the user, which is perfectly okay. >From: Eduardo Chappa >To: Pine Discussion Forum >Subject: Re: TAB does not detect new messages in incoming folders >Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 16:19:45 -0800 (PST) > >*** Pierre Rocher (procher@hotmail.com) wrote in the pine-info list today: > >:) IMAPSTATUS provides the clue. Further tests suggest with the detailed >:) status of IMAPSTATUS [N,R,U], TAB does find messages with the N flag, >but >:) not R nor U. There are two bugs: >:) >:) Bug 1: TAB only finds messages in the incoming collection folders with >the >:) "N" status only, where it should detect both "N" and "U" statuses. > >Hello Pierre, > > Tab only tries to find messages with the "N" flag. Messages with the "U" >flag are messages that were in the folder the last time it was opened, >but you either did not read them or decided to read them and flag them as >new again. If you close that folder (without deleting that message), the >next time it is opened you will see it marked with a "U". > > From here it follows that TAB is working correctly in your case, because >IMAPSTATUS is telling you that somehow between the moment that the message >was saved in the folder and the moment that TAB is doing the check, the >folder was read or it was touched by some other process. It may be that by >saving the files, the folder is considered to be opened. This should be >the bug, I use Pine filters to filter messages from INBOX to an incoming >folder and do not have this problem. > >-- >Eduardo >http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:27:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g0CJRiV6023292 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:27:45 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Jan 12 11:27:40 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0CJRdpr031894; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:27:39 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0CJQnx18478; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:26:49 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0CJPBn79748 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:25:11 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Jan 12 11:25:10 2002 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0CJPA3F013172 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:25:10 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0CJPAK349900; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:25:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:25:10 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: TAB does not detect new messages in incoming folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pierre Rocher X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 57 *** Pierre Rocher (procher@hotmail.com) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) I have to disagree. Here are the reasons: :) :) 1. Pine traditionally collapses UNSEEN and NEW messages into one :) catagory represented by the "N" flag (unless the non-default IMAPSTATUS :) is used). Treating them differently while they both get status "N" :) violates the consistency. It may have been a design decision. The first versions of Pine were not designed to be used for power users, so probably adding a "U" to the index would have been confusing at the time. I believe there's a clear distinction between messages that are *new* (those that arrive to your mailbox and when you open it you say "oh!, I got a new mail from XYZ") and those that are *old* (those that arrived in an earlier session and you said at that time "I'll read this message later - or in another session", or maybe said "ok, I read this message, but I'll keep it here until next time I open this folder, so I'll flag it as new so that it is not saved automatically"). The real problem is if Pine should "lie" to you and tell you that something is new when it is not. Most people are already accostumed to seeing the "N" flag for messages that are not really new, but that are old. The advantage of IMAPSTATUS over STATUS is that you can see which messages are really new, as opposed to those that are old. Personally, I like the fact that TAB only finds new messages, because if a folder is skipped by TAB, it means to me that no new messages have arrived to that folder since the last time I opened it, which saves me the time of opening the folder, to only see messages that I haven't read for whatever reason or that I read and did not delete. I am not saying that there should not be a key that finds "new" and "unseen" messages, but I'd rather have TAB only find those that are really "new". -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ P.S. This is a minor issue, do you know if hotmail will ever include the "in-reply-to" header to messages that are replies to messages in their INBOX? From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:38:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g0EMcCV6003952 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:38:13 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jan 14 14:38:10 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0EMcApr021408; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:38:10 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0EMbhx19548; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:37:43 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0EKO2v37172 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:24:02 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jan 14 12:24:01 2002 -0800 Received: from server10.safepages.com (server10.safepages.com [216.127.146.24]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0EKNuVK009502 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:24:01 -0800 Received: from mohnkern (washdc-208-186-26-2.safepages.com [208.186.26.2]) by server10.safepages.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C785D3C6DE for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:21:38 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <3C42F7FB.12575.148AA27@localhost> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:23:39 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Scott Mohnkern" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Moved to a new box, missing environment variable? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-pmrqc: 1 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 58 We recently replaced a hard drive, and are seeing a problem with pine.440 on Solaris 5.6. The problem is pine.440 isn't finding user's mail spool, and instead, it's saying "using inbox" in their configuration. A user can manually go in, and change their configuration, but it's clear there's some file that was on the old box, that's missing from the new box. Scott Scott Mohnkern mohnkern@millkern.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:39:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g0EMdFV6018121 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:39:17 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jan 14 14:39:12 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0EMdB11021138; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:39:12 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0EMcm516960; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:38:49 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0EKjIv90090 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:45:19 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jan 14 12:45:17 2002 -0800 Received: from server3.safepages.com (server3.safepages.com [216.127.146.5]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0EKjFTA000978 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:45:16 -0800 Received: from mohnkern (washdc-208-186-26-2.safepages.com [208.186.26.2]) by server3.safepages.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A2D5D40 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:45:08 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <3C42FD7A.13569.15E228C@localhost> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:47:06 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Scott Mohnkern" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.44 now available In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-pmrqc: 1 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 59 I'm running Solaris, version 5.6, instead of 5.8, and when I try to run the 5.8 binary I get ld.so.1: ./pine-bin.sun58: fatal: libcurses.so.1: open failed: No such file or directory Killed Does someone have a 5.6 binary, or is there a way to fix this? Scott Scott Mohnkern mohnkern@millkern.com From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:08:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with SMTP id g0F18rV6020435 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:08:54 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jan 14 17:08:51 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0F18ppr026363; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:08:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0F18U507154; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:08:30 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0F0UwK17076 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 16:30:59 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jan 14 15:28:21 2002 -0800 Received: from moultrie.cse.sc.edu ([129.252.138.7]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0ENSKVK032499 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:28:20 -0800 Received: from mum.cse.sc.edu (mum.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.21]) by moultrie.cse.sc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182D01FA24 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 18:28:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 18:28:19 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Moved to a new box, missing environment variable? In-Reply-To: <3C42F7FB.12575.148AA27@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gopalan@mum.cse.sc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 60 On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Scott Mohnkern wrote: > A user can manually go in, and change their configuration, but it's > clear there's some file that was on the old box, that's missing from > the new box. You're missing a pine.conf file. It should probably be in /usr/local/lib/. Check The .pine-debug file to be sure. Look near the top for the error message. -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cse.sc.edu http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 21:54:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0H5s17i004856 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 21:54:02 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 16 21:53:55 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0H5rtmT032271; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 21:53:55 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0H5qmb09496; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 21:52:48 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0H5osK64190 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 21:50:54 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 16 21:50:53 2002 -0800 Received: from hotmail.com (f51.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.51]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0H5oq37009106 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 21:50:53 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 21:50:52 -0800 Received: from 147.11.36.25 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 05:50:51 GMT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 05:50:51 +0000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Pierre Rocher" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: TAB does not detect new messages in incoming folders Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Cc: chappa@math.washington.edu X-Originating-IP: [147.11.36.25] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2002 05:50:52.0770 (UTC) FILETIME=[EC6E4420:01C19F1A] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 61 I think implementing this new feature "[X] tab-skips-incoming-unread" is the answer to accommodate different users and keep pine's consistency. Because of the default aggregate of "U" and "N" into "N", and the current definition of "tab-visits-next-new-message-only", it make sense to set the default to TAB checks unread, and can optionally enabled to check for new only. It will be something like: FEATURE: tab-skips-incoming-unread This feature affects Pine's behavior when using the TAB key to detect new messages in the incoming mail folder collection. Pine's usual behavior is to notify if any message in an incoming folder has the new or unread status. Setting this feature causes Pine to notify of new messages only if a message in an incoming folder has the new status. Messages that have the unread status will not be reported. A message gets the new status if it arrived since the mail folder was last closed. Notice that Pine typically represents both the new status and the unread status with the "N" flag, unless the IMAPSTATUS token is used where unread status is represented by the "U" flag instead. This is the current description of the existing feature: FEATURE: tab-visits-next-new-message-only This feature affects Pine's behavior when using the TAB key to move from one message to the next. Pine's usual behavior is to select the next unread message or message flagged as "Important". Setting this feature causes Pine to skip the messages flagged as important, and select unread messages exclusively. Tab behavior when there are no new messages left to select remains unchanged. best regards, P.Rocher >From: Eduardo Chappa >To: Pierre Rocher >CC: Pine Discussion Forum >Subject: Re: TAB does not detect new messages in incoming folders >Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:25:10 -0800 (PST) > >*** Pierre Rocher (procher@hotmail.com) wrote in the pine-info list today: > >:) I have to disagree. Here are the reasons: >:) >:) 1. Pine traditionally collapses UNSEEN and NEW messages into one >:) catagory represented by the "N" flag (unless the non-default IMAPSTATUS >:) is used). Treating them differently while they both get status "N" >:) violates the consistency. > >It may have been a design decision. The first versions of Pine were not >designed to be used for power users, so probably adding a "U" to the index >would have been confusing at the time. > >I believe there's a clear distinction between messages that are *new* >(those that arrive to your mailbox and when you open it you say "oh!, I >got a new mail from XYZ") and those that are *old* (those that arrived in >an earlier session and you said at that time "I'll read this message later >- or in another session", or maybe said "ok, I read this message, but I'll >keep it here until next time I open this folder, so I'll flag it as new so >that it is not saved automatically"). > >The real problem is if Pine should "lie" to you and tell you that >something is new when it is not. Most people are already accostumed to >seeing the "N" flag for messages that are not really new, but that are >old. The advantage of IMAPSTATUS over STATUS is that you can see which >messages are really new, as opposed to those that are old. > >Personally, I like the fact that TAB only finds new messages, because if a >folder is skipped by TAB, it means to me that no new messages have arrived >to that folder since the last time I opened it, which saves me the time of >opening the folder, to only see messages that I haven't read for whatever >reason or that I read and did not delete. > >I am not saying that there should not be a key that finds "new" and >"unseen" messages, but I'd rather have TAB only find those that are really >"new". > >-- >Eduardo >http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ > >P.S. This is a minor issue, do you know if hotmail will ever include the >"in-reply-to" header to messages that are replies to messages in their >INBOX? > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:46:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0H6kb7i019426 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:46:38 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 16 22:46:35 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0H6kYPs001669; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:46:35 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0H6k9b33426; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:46:09 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0H6j9K84056 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:45:09 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 16 22:45:08 2002 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0H6j8pj014143 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:45:08 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0H6j7K99900; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:45:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:45:06 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: TAB does not detect new messages in incoming folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pierre Rocher X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 62 *** Pierre Rocher (procher@hotmail.com) wrote on Jan 17, 2002: :) I think implementing this new feature "[X] tab-skips-incoming-unread" :) is the answer to accommodate different users and keep pine's :) consistency. The problem is what you get consistency with, either your idea of how TAB should work (that is to say, TAB should find "Recent" or "Unseen" messages) or the real way that TAB works (which only finds "Recent" messages). Tab was not designed to look for unseen messages, so setting the default of a feature to reverse this behavior does not do any good for most of Pine users that use TAB in the above mentioned way. I do agree that the solution is to make it configurable, and it is not difficult to do so, but disagree that the default should be to look for unseen messages (which takes more resources to find). -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 07:11:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0HFBh7i029213 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 07:11:43 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 17 07:11:37 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0HFBbPs010232; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 07:11:37 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0HFBD522000; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 07:11:14 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0HFASK09858 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 07:10:28 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 17 07:10:24 2002 -0800 Received: from jupiter.hc-sc.gc.ca (jupiter.hc-sc.gc.ca [198.103.237.7]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0HFAN37012519 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 07:10:23 -0800 Received: from neptune.hc-sc.gc.ca (icarus.hc-sc.gc.ca [198.103.172.81]) by jupiter.hc-sc.gc.ca (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g0HF8JY01482 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:08:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from smta00.hc-sc.gc.ca (smta00.hc-sc.gc.ca [142.4.99.231]) by neptune.hc-sc.gc.ca (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id g0HF7WL27969 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:07:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by smta00.hc-sc.gc.ca(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.7 (934.1 12-30-1999)) id 85256B44.00531F17 ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:07:34 -0500 Message-Id: <85256B44.00530780.00@smta00.hc-sc.gc.ca> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:08:53 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Patrick_Hertel@hc-sc.gc.ca To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Frustrating error 553 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: HWC X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 63 I gather that error: 553 covers many sins so it is not in itself diagnostic. The actual error message is JUST too short for me to figure out what the $*#$%@ it means: "[ Mail not sent. Sending error 553: Due to a small error in your Email s]" It may be "small" but its terminal! HELP -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:10:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0HHAJ7i002252 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:10:20 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 17 09:10:17 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0HHAHmT012438; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:10:17 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0HH9mb21126; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:09:48 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0HH8rK22280 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:08:53 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 17 09:07:09 2002 -0800 Received: from andrew.triumf.ca (andrew.Triumf.CA [142.90.106.59]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0HH78pj002444 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:07:08 -0800 Received: from localhost (IDENT:andrew@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by andrew.triumf.ca (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g0HH73g10924 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:07:03 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:07:03 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: Andrew Daviel Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Andrew Daviel To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: support for "broken" text/html MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 64 I'd like to see support for non-MIME HTML mail. As in an HTTP-like Subject: whatever Content-Type: text/html Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:25:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0HKPc7i022312 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:25:41 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 17 12:25:36 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0HKPZPs019569; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:25:35 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0HKP9b25756; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:25:10 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0HKLkK92974 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:21:47 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 17 12:21:46 2002 -0800 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0HKLi37000979 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:21:45 -0800 Received: from localhost (dufberg@localhost) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g0HKLdt05544; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 21:21:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dufberg@narnia.pp.se) Message-Id: <20020117211939.Y281-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 21:21:39 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: support for "broken" text/html In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Andrew Daviel X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 65 On Jan 17, 2002, 09:07 (-0800) Andrew Daviel wrot= e: > I know that MIME-Version is required for MIME, which I normally associate > with multipart/alternative etc., but I'm not sure whether HTML sent > as the message body with no encoding should require it. MIME covers many things, among them to be able to define that the mailbody is not plain text, but HTML. Without proper headers it is not a proper MIME mail. Ask the sender to update its system to support MIME properly. Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se Bl=E5arvsgr=E4nd 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 V=E4llingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 13:34:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0HLYc7i006960 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 13:34:38 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 17 13:34:36 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0HLYamT020900; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 13:34:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0HLY7b13592; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 13:34:07 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0HLWxK73894 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 13:32:59 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 17 13:32:56 2002 -0800 Received: from mhonline.net (cm-24-161-43-0.nycap.rr.com [24.161.43.0]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0HLWs37021933 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 13:32:55 -0800 Received: from localhost (IDENT:chrisf@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mhonline.net (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g0HLWlF11405; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 16:32:51 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 16:32:47 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Christopher Fisk To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Frustrating error 553 In-Reply-To: <85256B44.00530780.00@smta00.hc-sc.gc.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Patrick_Hertel@hc-sc.gc.ca X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 66 553 errors are often custom errors Admin's put into thier mail servers. If you call your ISP for technical support and ask what could trigger that error you may have a better place to look. Christopher Fisk On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 Patrick_Hertel@hc-sc.gc.ca wrote: > > >I gather that error: 553 covers many sins so it is not in itself diagnostic. > >The actual error message is JUST too short for me to figure out what the $*#$%@ >it means: > >"[ Mail not sent. Sending error 553: Due to a small error in your Email s]" > >It may be "small" but its terminal! HELP > > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:07:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0I27w7i029464 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:07:58 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 17 18:07:57 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0I27uPs029942; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:07:56 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0I27A421210; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:07:10 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0I23qK82036 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:03:53 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 17 18:03:52 2002 -0800 Received: from andrew.triumf.ca (andrew.Triumf.CA [142.90.106.59]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0I23qAZ011301 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:03:52 -0800 Received: from localhost (IDENT:andrew@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by andrew.triumf.ca (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g0I23pg22499; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:03:51 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:03:51 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: Andrew Daviel Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Andrew Daviel To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: certificate error in Pine 4.44 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Steven Mcdonald X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 67 We recently upgraded to Pine 4.44 from RedHat (packaged by RedHat, I should say :-) ) and started getting an error message connecting to our server: There was a failure validating the SSL/TLS certificate for the server unable to get local issuer certificate (Our IMAP server works with SSL in Netscape) I have read the FAQs for Pine and OpenSSL, from which it seems I need to install the root CA for our cert (Thawte, in this case) on each client machine. Butr I'm not sure how to do this. Pine on my RedHat 6.2 box is doing open("/usr/share/ssl/cert.pem", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT stat("/usr/share/ssl/certs/ddc328ff.0", 0xbfffb2c8) = -1 ENOENT I have openssl-0.9.5a. On another machine with openssl-0.9.6-9 I found a ca-bundle.crt and the Pine FAQ suggests I need to extract the root certs from this. ..... tap,tap,tap .... OK, 2 solutions - Either, get ca-bundle.crt from somewhere (like a recent distro of OpenSSL) and symlink it to /usr/share/ssl/cert.pem or get all the root certs from e.g. openssl-0.9.5a/certs/thawteCb.pem etc., copy them to /usr/share/ssl/certs then run "c_rehash usr/share/ssl/certs" to make the hashes -- Andrew Daviel, TRIUMF, Canada Tel. +1 (604) 222-7376 security@triumf.ca -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 02:16:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0IAGL7i010140 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 02:16:21 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 18 02:16:16 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0IAGGmT004814; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 02:16:16 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0IAFp405688; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 02:15:51 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0IADeK34344 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 02:13:40 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 18 02:13:39 2002 -0800 Received: from patan.sun.com (patan.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0IADcAZ018929 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 02:13:39 -0800 Received: from ms-emuc07-01.Germany.Sun.COM ([129.157.128.14]) by patan.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA14621 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 03:13:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from sr-emuc07-02 (sr-emuc07-02 [129.157.128.21]) by ms-emuc07-01.Germany.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id LAA06676 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 11:13:36 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 11:13:36 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: Constantin Gonzalez Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Constantin Gonzalez To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: ^M in Text attachments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: constant@sr-emuc07-02 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 68 Hi, yesterday, I innocently edited a text file with vim on a Unix system. After sending it out as an attachment with Pine, it had added ^Ms in it. Is there a way to prevent Pine from adding ^Ms to text attachments? Regards, Constantin -- Constantin Gonzalez Sun Microsystems GmbH Systems Engineer Sonnenallee 1 Technology & Product Consulting 85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten Tel.: +49 89/4 60 08-25 91 Federal Republic of Germany Fax : +49 89/4 60 08-22 22 http://www.sun.de/ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 04:14:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0ICEB7i011444 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 04:14:12 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 18 04:14:07 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0ICE6Ps007553; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 04:14:06 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0ICDjx12968; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 04:13:45 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0ICCKK44656 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 04:12:20 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 18 04:12:19 2002 -0800 Received: from kluk.ebone.net (kluk.ebone.net [195.158.227.210]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0ICCIWn020158 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 04:12:18 -0800 Received: (from sl@localhost) by kluk.ebone.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id g0ICCHM20270; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 13:12:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sl) Message-Id: <20020118092914.D19978-100000@kluk.ebone.net> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 13:12:17 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steen Linden To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Problems reading Pine attachments in Windows Outlook XP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-X-Sender: X-NCC-RegID: dk.ebone X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 69 It appears that Outlook for Windows XP has problems with attachments produced by pine. The attachments are there and seems to be correctly formated since the Outlook user is able to save them from the "File" menu and the attachments are also correctly included if the mail is forwarded back from Outlook XP to the pine user. Initially we thought this was due to corruption of the MIME headers appearing in the body made by some anti-virus filter, but the "boundary" strings are intact and we've tested with various different Outlook XP environments. The problem seems to only appear in Windows Outlook XP, not in Outlook Express XP, nor Outlook for NT. I expect it to be a Microsoft problem. However I post this here since the ubiquity of Microsoft products makes it less likely that Microsoft or their users will care about it unless several others experience the same problem. Has anybody else experienced apparently missing attachments in Outlook XP or are your pine attachments working perfectly with Outlook XP? Please let me know. Pine versions tested are Pine-4.33/FreeBSD-4.3 and PC-Pine-4.33/WinNT Among the Windows XP versions tested are "Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627/MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000" Best wishes Steen Linden -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 04:39:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0ICdr7i008064 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 04:39:53 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 18 04:39:51 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0ICdpPs007962; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 04:39:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0ICdXx21952; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 04:39:33 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0ICcnK87000 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 04:38:49 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 18 04:38:45 2002 -0800 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0ICchpj018250 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 04:38:44 -0800 Received: from localhost (dufberg@localhost) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g0ICccf07101; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 13:38:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dufberg@narnia.pp.se) Message-Id: <20020118133553.I7096-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 13:38:38 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: ^M in Text attachments In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Constantin Gonzalez X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 70 On Jan 18, 2002, 11:13 (+0100) Constantin Gonzalez yesterday, I innocently edited a text file with vim on a Unix system. Aft= er > sending it out as an attachment with Pine, it had added ^Ms in it. > > Is there a way to prevent Pine from adding ^Ms to text attachments? In the mail each line must be ended by RETURN+LINEFEED. It is up to the receiving end to change or keep the line endings. Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se Bl=E5arvsgr=E4nd 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 V=E4llingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 05:03:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0ID3P7i007512 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 05:03:26 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 18 05:03:24 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0ID3NmT007682; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 05:03:23 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0ID2ox13004; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 05:02:50 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0ID2EK88348 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 05:02:14 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 18 05:02:13 2002 -0800 Received: from mail.bellhow.com (fw.bellhow.com [63.121.54.5]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0ID2Dpj020661 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 05:02:13 -0800 Received: from wgs.apps1.bellhow.com (wgs.apps1.bellhow.com [192.168.70.70]) by mail.bellhow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA05499; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:02:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (herrick@localhost) by wgs.apps1.bellhow.com (8.8.4/8.8.3) with ESMTP id IAA14536; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:02:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:02:07 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: daniel lance herrick To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Problems reading Pine attachments in Windows Outlook XP In-Reply-To: <20020118092914.D19978-100000@kluk.ebone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Steen Linden X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: wgs.apps1.bellhow.com: herrick owned process doing -bs X-Sender: herrick@wgs.apps1.bellhow.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 71 Check the headers in your message (send a copy to yourself, save it to a new mailbox, and look at the mailbox with vi or emacs) - what is the Content-Type of your attachments? Is it coming out something like Application/OCTET-STREAM when something like Image/jpeg would be more helpful? If so, your system manager has not properly setup the file mime.types, you can supply ~/.mime.types - this is the official place for getting values for Content-Type. dan dlh@dlh.com http://www.NationalReform.org/ - Explicitly Christian Politics Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh, but in vain. On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Steen Linden wrote: > > It appears that Outlook for Windows XP has problems with attachments > produced by pine. > > The attachments are there and seems to be correctly formated since the > Outlook user is able to save them from the "File" menu and the > attachments are also correctly included if the mail is forwarded back > from Outlook XP to the pine user. > > Initially we thought this was due to corruption of the MIME headers > appearing in the body made by some anti-virus filter, but the "boundary" > strings are intact and we've tested with various different Outlook XP > environments. > > The problem seems to only appear in Windows Outlook XP, not in Outlook > Express XP, nor Outlook for NT. > > I expect it to be a Microsoft problem. However I post this here since > the ubiquity of Microsoft products makes it less likely that Microsoft > or their users will care about it unless several others experience the > same problem. > > Has anybody else experienced apparently missing attachments in Outlook > XP or are your pine attachments working perfectly with Outlook XP? > Please let me know. > > Pine versions tested are Pine-4.33/FreeBSD-4.3 and PC-Pine-4.33/WinNT > Among the Windows XP versions tested are "Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627/MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000" > > Best wishes > Steen Linden > > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 05:43:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0IDhf7i009935 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 05:43:42 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 18 05:43:37 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0IDhaPs008954; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 05:43:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0IDhEb09808; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 05:43:14 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0IDgcK34378 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 05:42:38 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 18 05:42:37 2002 -0800 Received: from kluk.ebone.net (kluk.ebone.net [195.158.227.210]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0IDga37027234 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 05:42:36 -0800 Received: (from sl@localhost) by kluk.ebone.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id g0IDgWu20356; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 14:42:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sl) Message-Id: <20020118142542.S19978-100000@kluk.ebone.net> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 14:42:32 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steen Linden To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Problems reading Pine attachments in Windows Outlook XP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: daniel lance herrick X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-NCC-RegID: dk.ebone X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 72 Hi Daniel, Thanks for your reply, but I don't think the problem is the Content-Type. As you can see below the MIME headers for APPLICATION/MSWORD attachments looks perfectly allright. Best wishes Steen Linden MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/Mixed; BOUNDARY="1619078-12662-1011186519=:279" Content-ID: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1619078-12662-1011186519=:279 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: her er attachments. --1619078-12662-1011186519=:279 Content-Type: APPLICATION/MSWORD; NAME="FG1.doc" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Content-Disposition: ATTACHMENT; FILENAME="FG1.doc" 0M8R4KGxGuEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPgADAP7/CQAGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD AAAAYAEAAAAAAAAAEAAAYgEAAAEAAAD+////AAAAAF0BAABeAQAAXwEAAP// //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ... SNIP ... --1619078-12662-1011186519=:279 Content-Type: APPLICATION/MSWORD; NAME="annex2.doc" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Content-Disposition: ATTACHMENT; FILENAME="annex2.doc" 0M8R4KGxGuEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPgADAP7/CQAGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAB AAAARwAAAAAAAAAAEAAASQAAAAEAAAD+////AAAAAEYAAAD///////////// //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ... SNIP ... From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:31:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0IIVs7i003319 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:31:55 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 18 10:31:53 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0IIVqPs015893; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:31:52 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0IIVG528142; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:31:17 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0II3rK60382 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:03:53 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 18 10:03:52 2002 -0800 Received: from uranus.networkwcs.net (uranus.networkwcs.net [204.120.16.7]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0II3qWn015841 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:03:52 -0800 Received: from evv-mer-2.qccinc.com (poc-rt-01.qccinc.com [216.135.4.11]) by uranus.networkwcs.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g0II3SW04929; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 12:03:28 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 12:03:28 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Marc Rouleau To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Problems reading Pine attachments in Windows Outlook XP In-Reply-To: <20020118092914.D19978-100000@kluk.ebone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Steen Linden X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: mer@imap-ras.communitytelephone.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 73 I think you probably need to turn on the new (4.33+) quell-content-id feature. -- Marc On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Steen Linden wrote: >It appears that Outlook for Windows XP has problems with attachments >produced by pine. > >The attachments are there and seems to be correctly formated since >the Outlook user is able to save them from the "File" menu and the >attachments are also correctly included if the mail is forwarded back >from Outlook XP to the pine user. > >Initially we thought this was due to corruption of the MIME headers >appearing in the body made by some anti-virus filter, but the >"boundary" strings are intact and we've tested with various different >Outlook XP environments. > >The problem seems to only appear in Windows Outlook XP, not in >Outlook Express XP, nor Outlook for NT. > >I expect it to be a Microsoft problem. However I post this here since >the ubiquity of Microsoft products makes it less likely that >Microsoft or their users will care about it unless several others >experience the same problem. > >Has anybody else experienced apparently missing attachments in >Outlook XP or are your pine attachments working perfectly with >Outlook XP? Please let me know. > >Pine versions tested are Pine-4.33/FreeBSD-4.3 and PC-Pine-4.33/WinNT >Among the Windows XP versions tested are "Microsoft Outlook, Build >10.0.2627/MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000" > >Best wishes Steen Linden From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:26:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0INQV7i018440 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:26:32 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 18 15:26:27 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0INQRPs024695; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:26:27 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0INQ1534746; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:26:01 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0INOnK26574 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:24:49 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 18 15:24:44 2002 -0800 Received: from kluk.ebone.net (kluk.ebone.net [195.158.227.210]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0INOhWn007489 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:24:43 -0800 Received: (from sl@localhost) by kluk.ebone.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id g0INOcK20983; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 00:24:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sl) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 00:24:38 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steen Linden To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Problems reading Pine attachments in Windows Outlook XP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Marc Rouleau X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: sl@kluk.ebone.net X-NCC-RegID: dk.ebone X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 74 Hi Marc, Thanks a lot for the tip about quell-content-id. Somehow I managed to miss it in the Pine Information Centre even though it's actually the first thing that pops up if you search for "Outlook XP". Sorry. Best wishes Steen LInden From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:59:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0INwx7i012799 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:58:59 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 18 15:58:57 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0INwvmT025100; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:58:57 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0INwYb18886; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:58:34 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0INu4K06770 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:56:04 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 18 15:56:03 2002 -0800 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0INu3pj014984 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:56:03 -0800 Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.12]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0INu2UC022968; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:56:02 -0800 Received: from [128.95.135.163] (D-128-95-135-163.dhcp.washington.edu [128.95.135.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0INu1JU018930 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:56:01 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:56:01 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Frustrating error 553 In-Reply-To: <85256B44.00530780.00@smta00.hc-sc.gc.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Patrick_Hertel@hc-sc.gc.ca X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: hubert@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 75 Try setting the feature "enable-verbose-smtp-posting" and when after you type ^X to send but before you say Yes, type ^W for Verbose output. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 Patrick_Hertel@hc-sc.gc.ca wrote: > > > I gather that error: 553 covers many sins so it is not in itself diagnostic. > > The actual error message is JUST too short for me to figure out what the $*#$%@ > it means: > > "[ Mail not sent. Sending error 553: Due to a small error in your Email s]" > > It may be "small" but its terminal! HELP > > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 22:47:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0J6lU7i024778 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 22:47:31 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 18 22:47:29 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0J6lSmT032262; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 22:47:29 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0J6kqb09366; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 22:46:53 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0J6hQK15328 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 22:43:27 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 18 22:43:22 2002 -0800 Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.0.212]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0J6hLpj007432 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 22:43:22 -0800 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (localhost.panix.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DFAF48AD1 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 01:39:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 22:39:00 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Kenneth Crudup To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Frustrating error 553 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: kenny@ProStar.localdomain X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 76 On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Steve Hubert wrote: > Try setting the feature "enable-verbose-smtp-posting" and when after you > type ^X to send but before you say Yes, type ^W for Verbose output. Heh. "Verbose" (^W) breaks sending with my SMTP agent. -Kenny -- Kenneth R. Crudup Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Washington, D.C. Home1: PO Box 914 Silver Spring, MD 20910-0914 kenny@panix.com Home2: 38010 Village Cmn. #217 Fremont, CA 94536-7525 (510) 745-0101 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 17:16:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0K1Gr7i015971 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 17:16:53 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Jan 19 17:16:45 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0K1GjmT016514; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 17:16:45 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0K1GG421262; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 17:16:16 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0K1DvK91410 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 17:13:57 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Jan 19 17:13:54 2002 -0800 Received: from gadolinium.btinternet.com (gadolinium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.111]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0K1Dr37002569 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 17:13:53 -0800 Received: from host213-122-70-209.btinternet.com ([213.122.70.209]) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #8) id 16S6YR-0006Oi-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 01:13:52 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 01:16:55 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Dan Hatton To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Integer/Pointer Comparison Problem in Pine Compilation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: dan@bib X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 77 References: 1997.04/msg00006, 2001.07/msg00005, 2001.08/msg00008, 2001.09/msg00033 I've been trying to compile pine 4.33 with gcc 2.95.2-13, under linux 2.2.19pre17, and have the same problem that was discussed in the threads which started with the pine-info messages mentioned above, i.e. during compilation of c-client/osdep.c, the compiler dies with complaints about assignment of a pointer to an integer without an explicit cast. I've found that if the -traditional flag is given to gcc, via c-client/Makefile, this suppresses the error. Hopefully, some people who've encountered the problem will find that this allows them to compile successfully. It doesn't do me any good, however, because compilation of the included system header string2.h then crashes out with "macro or #include recursion too deep." This appears (I'm not absolutely sure) to be because my string2.h uses the const keyword, which is incompatible with gcc -traditional. I understand from one of the earlier threads about the issue that the next version after 4.33, which turned out to be 4.40, was supposed to work with the newer gcc version... did this happen, and if so, where can I get hold of the newer version, bearing in mind that I'm outside the US, and don't want to break export regulations regarding encryption software, please? Thanks Dan Hatton ================================================================================ Daniel C. Hatton B.A., M.Sci., A.M.Inst.P. Graduate Student E-Mail: dan.hatton@btinternet.com World-Wide Web: http://www.bib.hatton.btinternet.co.uk/dan/ Surface Mail: Wolfson Court, Girton College, Clarkson Road, Cambridge, UK. CB3 0EH ================================================================================ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:04:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0KN4i7i025577 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:04:45 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 20 15:04:43 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0KN4hPs004546; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:04:43 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0KN4B415612; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:04:11 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0KN2qK102024 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:02:52 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 20 15:02:52 2002 -0800 Received: from konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.132]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0KN2p37007698 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:02:51 -0800 Received: from localhost by konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23246; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:02:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:02:50 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Freda B Birnbaum To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: compression program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: fbb6@columbia.edu X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Freda B Birnbaum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 78 Is there such a thing as a compression/decompression program that will work on BOTH a Unix platform AND and Windows (at the DOS prompt)? I've been using gzip / gunzip to compress / uncompress files on my Unix account, but obviously if I save the zipped files to the PC, I can't use gunzip there to unzip them. Of course it takes lots less time to download zipped files than unzipped ones. But it would be nice to be able to unzip them on the PC instead of uploading them back to the Unix platform. The question arises because I use PC-Pine to save old email on the PC (or ZIP disks). PC-Pine is just terrific for this! Freda Birnbaum, fbb6@columbia.edu "Call on God, but row away from the rocks" -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:13:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0KNDV7i020038 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:13:33 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 20 15:13:27 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0KNDQmT003925; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:13:27 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0KND8524304; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:13:08 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0KNCNK44034 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:12:23 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 20 15:12:19 2002 -0800 Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.0.212]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0KNCI37008727 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:12:19 -0800 Received: from ProStar.localdomain (localhost.panix.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFB748CBC for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:09:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:09:08 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Kenneth Crudup To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: compression program In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: kenny@ProStar.localdomain X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 79 On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Freda B Birnbaum wrote: > Is there such a thing as a compression/decompression program that will > work on BOTH a Unix platform AND and Windows (at the DOS prompt)? Yeah, "pkzip"/"pkunzip". Get it from pkware.com for MS, "freshmeat" for *NIX. -Kenny -- Kenneth R. Crudup Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Washington, D.C. Home1: PO Box 914 Silver Spring, MD 20910-0914 kenny@panix.com Home2: 38010 Village Cmn. #217 Fremont, CA 94536-7525 (510) 745-0101 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:25:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0KNPU7i018916 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:25:31 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 20 15:25:29 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0KNPTPs004876; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:25:29 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0KNP7x22030; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:25:07 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0KNOZK06104 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:24:36 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 20 15:24:35 2002 -0800 Received: from konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.132]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0KNOY37009875 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:24:34 -0800 Received: from localhost by konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25875; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:24:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:24:31 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Freda B Birnbaum To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: compression program In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: fbb6@columbia.edu X-To: Kenneth Crudup X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 80 > > Is there such a thing as a compression/decompression program that will > > work on BOTH a Unix platform AND and Windows (at the DOS prompt)? > > Yeah, "pkzip"/"pkunzip". Get it from pkware.com for MS, "freshmeat" for > *NIX. Thanks!! (Where do I find "freshmeat"?) Freda Birnbaum, fbb6@columbia.edu "Call on God, but row away from the rocks" From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:46:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0KNkT7i014390 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:46:29 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 20 15:46:24 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0KNkNmT004450; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:46:23 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0KNk3x05938; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:46:03 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0KNjYK44104 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:45:34 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 20 15:45:31 2002 -0800 Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.0.213]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0KNjUWn020376 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:45:31 -0800 Received: from ProStar.localdomain (localhost.panix.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A124B92CD for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:45:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:45:26 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Kenneth Crudup To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: compression program In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: kenny@ProStar.localdomain X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 81 > > > Is there such a thing as a compression/decompression program that will > > > work on BOTH a Unix platform AND and Windows (at the DOS prompt)? > > Yeah, "pkzip"/"pkunzip". Get it from pkware.com for MS, "freshmeat" for > > *NIX. On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Freda B Birnbaum wrote: > Thanks!! (Where do I find "freshmeat"?) freshmeat.net ; plugin "unzip" and ... ah hell, here's the final URL: http://www.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/UnZip.html -Kenny -- Kenneth R. Crudup Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Washington, D.C. Home1: PO Box 914 Silver Spring, MD 20910-0914 kenny@panix.com Home2: 38010 Village Cmn. #217 Fremont, CA 94536-7525 (510) 745-0101 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:54:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0KNsK7i023435 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:54:21 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 20 15:54:12 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0KNsBmT004567; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:54:12 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0KNrq535328; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:53:53 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0KNrKK136514 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:53:20 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 20 15:53:17 2002 -0800 Received: from protactinium.btinternet.com (protactinium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.176]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0KNrGpj020814 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:53:17 -0800 Received: from host213-122-186-234.btinternet.com ([213.122.186.234]) by protactinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #8) id 16SRlu-0000Xw-00; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 23:53:12 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 23:55:51 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Dan Hatton To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: compression program In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Freda B Birnbaum X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: dan@bib X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 82 gzip is available for DOS from http://www.gzip.org/ Something to watch out for: the way my DOS gzip is installed, which was the default, the uncompress command in the as-installed state is gzip -d, or gunzip -d, not plain gunzip. Dan Hatton ================================================================================ Daniel C. Hatton B.A., M.Sci., A.M.Inst.P. Graduate Student E-Mail: dan.hatton@btinternet.com World-Wide Web: http://www.bib.hatton.btinternet.co.uk/dan/ Surface Mail: Wolfson Court, Girton College, Clarkson Road, Cambridge, UK. CB3 0EH ================================================================================ On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Freda B Birnbaum wrote: > Is there such a thing as a compression/decompression program that will > work on BOTH a Unix platform AND and Windows (at the DOS prompt)? > I've been using gzip / gunzip to compress / uncompress files on my Unix > account, but obviously if I save the zipped files to the PC, I can't use > gunzip there to unzip them. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:12:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0L0CB7i010496 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:12:11 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 20 16:12:05 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0L0C5mT004820; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:12:05 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0L0Bax13804; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:11:36 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0L0ApK136544 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:10:51 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 20 16:10:50 2002 -0800 Received: from tao.agoron.com (tao.agoron.com [206.181.233.66]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0L0AoWn022578 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:10:50 -0800 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by tao.agoron.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04249; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:10:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:10:49 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Andy Malato To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: compression program In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Kenneth Crudup X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 83 gzip is also available for Windows, try installing cygwin.. ---Andy > On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Freda B Birnbaum wrote: > > > Is there such a thing as a compression/decompression program that will > > work on BOTH a Unix platform AND and Windows (at the DOS prompt)? > > Yeah, "pkzip"/"pkunzip". Get it from pkware.com for MS, "freshmeat" for *NIX. > > -Kenny > > -- > Kenneth R. Crudup Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Washington, D.C. > Home1: PO Box 914 Silver Spring, MD 20910-0914 kenny@panix.com > Home2: 38010 Village Cmn. #217 Fremont, CA 94536-7525 (510) 745-0101 > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:19:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0L0JG7i006708 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:19:17 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 20 16:19:09 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0L0J9mT004940; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:19:09 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0L0Ipx05986; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:18:52 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0L0IHK24870 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:18:17 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 20 16:18:16 2002 -0800 Received: from konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.132]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0L0IGAZ018452 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:18:16 -0800 Received: from localhost by konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01363; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:18:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:18:14 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Freda B Birnbaum To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: compression program In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: fbb6@columbia.edu X-To: Kenneth Crudup X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum , Freda B Birnbaum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 84 > > Thanks!! (Where do I find "freshmeat"?) > > freshmeat.net ; plugin "unzip" and ... ah hell, here's the final URL: > > http://www.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/UnZip.html THANK you!! From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:20:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0L0KR7i028864 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:20:27 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 20 16:20:19 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0L0KJPs005663; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:20:19 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0L0Jtb29194; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:19:56 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0L0J8K26360 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:19:08 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 20 16:19:05 2002 -0800 Received: from konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.132]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0L0J4Wn023430 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:19:04 -0800 Received: from localhost by konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01415; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:19:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:19:01 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Freda B Birnbaum To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: compression program In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: fbb6@columbia.edu X-To: Dan Hatton X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum , Freda B Birnbaum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 85 On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Dan Hatton wrote: > gzip is available for DOS from > > http://www.gzip.org/ > > Something to watch out for: the way my DOS gzip is installed, which was > the default, the uncompress command in the as-installed state is gzip -d, > or gunzip -d, not plain gunzip. Many thanks!! From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 17:23:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0L1NP7i020093 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 17:23:25 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 20 17:23:20 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0L1NKPs006589; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 17:23:20 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0L1Mhx18352; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 17:22:43 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0L1IQK118908 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 17:18:27 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 20 17:18:25 2002 -0800 Received: from konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.132]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0L1IPpj028604 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 17:18:25 -0800 Received: from localhost by konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA07229; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 20:18:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 20:18:22 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Freda B Birnbaum To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: compression program In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: fbb6@columbia.edu X-To: Andy Malato X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 86 > gzip is also available for Windows, try installing cygwin.. Great, thanks! From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:59:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0L2xB7i017965 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:59:12 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 20 18:59:09 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0L2x9mT007307; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:59:09 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0L2wix13598; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:58:45 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0L2t0K120926 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:55:00 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 20 18:54:59 2002 -0800 Received: from equake.geol.vt.edu (equake.geol.vt.edu [128.173.184.42]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0L2sxpj004753 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:54:59 -0800 Received: from localhost (snoke@localhost) by equake.geol.vt.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g0L2swR19568 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 21:54:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 21:54:57 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Arthur Snoke To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: compression program In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: equake.geol.vt.edu: snoke owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: snoke@equake.geol.vt.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 87 The program Winzip can handle both gzip compression and Unix tar compression on Windows. On a Mac, the Stuffit Expander can also handle them both. On many Unix platforms (including Sun Solaris 2.8) the zip and unzip utilities are installed. Or they can be gotten for any platform from a Info-ZIP which I got to through the TeX CTAN search engine. (Google would work as well, I would guess.) I learned the hard way that gzip and zip are not the same: in particular, gzip will compress a file usually more efficiently than the unix compress, but it does not work on directories. zip seems like a comparison of the Unix tar and gzip (based on just a couple of tests). zip/unzip are based on what I think is PKZIP format. It is a bit unfortuante that "zip" is used for two slightly different compression algorithms -- plus the Iomega drive. I am preparing software packages whicwill be put on CDs and are intended to be readable on multiple platforms, which is why I have played with these different packages. If anyhone differs with what I calim or has any alternative suggestions, please share. Arthur Snoke snoke@vt.edu From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:09:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0L39J7i004063 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:09:20 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 20 19:09:17 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0L39HmT007455; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:09:17 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0L38xx16788; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:08:59 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0L35UK100020 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:05:30 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 20 19:05:29 2002 -0800 Received: from konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.132]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0L35TAZ032608 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:05:29 -0800 Received: from localhost by konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA18181; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 22:05:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 22:05:27 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Freda B Birnbaum To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: compression program In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: fbb6@columbia.edu X-To: Arthur Snoke X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum , Freda B Birnbaum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 88 On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Arthur Snoke wrote: [...] > I am preparing software packages whicwill be put on CDs and are intended > to be readable on multiple platforms, which is why I have played with > these different packages. If anyhone differs with what I calim or has > any alternative suggestions, please share. Thanks for the additional info. Do keep us posted! From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 08:15:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0LGFT7i031143 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 08:15:30 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jan 21 08:15:24 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0LGFNmT019880; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 08:15:24 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0LGEob04480; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 08:14:50 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0LGDlK25040 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 08:13:47 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jan 21 08:13:47 2002 -0800 Received: from mail2.svr.pol.co.uk (mail2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.210]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0LGDjAZ006811 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 08:13:46 -0800 Received: from modem-6.aardvark.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.134.0.6]) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 16Sh4q-0002eD-00; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 16:13:44 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 16:12:32 +0000 (GMT Normalzeit) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Problems reading Pine attachments in Windows Outlook XP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine! Info @ www.ii.com X-X-Sender: nancy@imap.iecc.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 89 On 18 Jan 2002 Marc Rouleau (mer@cinergycom.net) wrote: > I think you probably need to turn on the new (4.33+) quell-content-id > feature. FYI, a message about this Microsoft XP Outlook bug was posted to the "interesting-people" mailing list today. You can read it here... IP: Microsoft breaks Mime specification Nancy ^x -- ii Main Pine Page: Nancy McGough Infinite Ink --= Sent via Pine 4.44: IMAP, NNTP & ESMTP for Unix/Win/MacOS X =-- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:30:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0MEUk7i009261 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:30:46 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 22 06:30:44 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0MEUhPs011206; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:30:44 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0MEUG419464; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:30:16 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0MESIK95706 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:28:18 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 22 06:28:14 2002 -0800 Received: from tungsten.btinternet.com (tungsten.btinternet.com [194.73.73.81]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0MESDpj004016 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:28:13 -0800 Received: from host213-122-62-192.btinternet.com ([213.122.62.192]) by tungsten.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #8) id 16T1uF-0001RD-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:28:12 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:31:22 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Dan Hatton To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Slow Local Folder Access and Locking MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: dan@bib X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 90 Hi. Please can anyone help me out with the following problem: access to my local Pine folders, especially write access such as saving messages and writing fccs, is often very, very slow, with Linux Pine 4.21? This appears to be partly (maybe wholly) caused by Pine believing that the folders are locked; about halfway through the delay, it starts counting down from 285 seconds until it overrides the lock. There is no obvious reason for the folders to be locked, i.e. no other copy of Pine is running and no other process is accessing them. Some possible leads: The folders were created with PC-Pine 4.21. The mail folder files are on a vfat filesystem, with consequences: I do not own the files; they are owned by root, and I get at them by being in a group with read, write, and execute permissions on them. The filesystem does not support symbolic links. When suggesting solutions, please bear in mind that I am unable to compile Pine, for the reasons I outlined in message 2002.01/msg00076. Thanks Dan Hatton ================================================================================ Daniel C. Hatton B.A., M.Sci., A.M.Inst.P. Graduate Student E-Mail: dan.hatton@btinternet.com World-Wide Web: http://www.bib.hatton.btinternet.co.uk/dan/ Surface Mail: Wolfson Court, Girton College, Clarkson Road, Cambridge, UK. CB3 0EH ================================================================================ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:59:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0MExP7i026864 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:59:26 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 22 06:59:21 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0MExKmT011036; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:59:21 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0MEwwx22104; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:58:58 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0MEwFK98336 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:58:15 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 22 06:58:14 2002 -0800 Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.0.212]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0MEwEAZ024179 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:58:14 -0800 Received: from 209-162-38-182.thegrid.net (localhost.panix.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EDC489F9 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:55:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:55:30 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Kenneth Crudup To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine questions (4.4X?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: kenny@ProStar.localdomain X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 91 - Is there any way, via keystrokes, to (R)eply to the original poster even if Reply-to: is set in the message (I don't want to set this in the config, as 99% of the time I want to use "Reply-To:" - To have Pine remember the password used when you grab your remote_pinerc and automatically use that as the login to outgoing SMTP AUTH (currently, if the server spec differs at all, it won't reuse what it was given) Thanks, -Kenny -- Kenneth R. Crudup Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Washington, D.C. Home1: PO Box 914 Silver Spring, MD 20910-0914 kenny@panix.com Home2: 38010 Village Cmn. #217 Fremont, CA 94536-7525 (510) 745-0101 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 07:44:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0MFhw7i023635 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 07:43:59 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 22 07:43:50 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0MFhoPs012526; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 07:43:50 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0MFhMb23496; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 07:43:22 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0MFgWK60536 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 07:42:32 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 22 07:42:32 2002 -0800 Received: from moultrie.cse.sc.edu ([129.252.138.7]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0MFgVpj016852 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 07:42:31 -0800 Received: from mum.cse.sc.edu (mum.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.21]) by moultrie.cse.sc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C991FA28 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:42:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:42:29 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine questions (4.4X?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gopalan@mum.cse.sc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 92 On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Kenneth Crudup wrote: > - Is there any way, via keystrokes, to (R)eply to the original > poster even if Reply-to: is set in the message (I don't want to set > this in the config, as 99% of the time I want to use "Reply-To:" Umm, you don't want to use the config option for it, but you still want the functionality. I can only offer a poor work-around: Before replying to the message, copy the sender's address into the clipboard, then when you reply, paste it into the headers. > - To have Pine remember the password used when you grab your > remote_pinerc and automatically use that as the login to outgoing > SMTP AUTH Use a password file. It will keep separate passwords for each server definition. -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cse.sc.edu http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 07:50:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0MFoS7i006320 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 07:50:28 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 22 07:50:24 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0MFoNPs012674; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 07:50:23 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0MFnK545474; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 07:49:25 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0MFmsK131544 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 07:48:55 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 22 07:48:54 2002 -0800 Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.0.213]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0MFmq37003600 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 07:48:54 -0800 Received: from 209-162-38-182.thegrid.net (localhost.panix.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317489156 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:48:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 07:48:45 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Kenneth Crudup To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine questions (4.4X?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: kenny@ProStar.localdomain X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 93 On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Gopi Sundaram wrote: > Before replying to the message, copy the sender's address into the > clipboard, then when you reply, paste it into the headers. Yeah, that's what I'd been doing before I RTFMed, and coming up empty, tried here. Perhaps say, ^B (I think it's free) could be used to implement this? > > - To have Pine remember the password used when you grab your > > remote_pinerc and automatically use that as the login to outgoing > > SMTP AUTH > Use a password file. I don't use PC-Pine- where's this in the 4.4X *NIX distro? -Kenny -- Kenneth R. Crudup Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Washington, D.C. Home1: PO Box 914 Silver Spring, MD 20910-0914 kenny@panix.com Home2: 38010 Village Cmn. #217 Fremont, CA 94536-7525 (510) 745-0101 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:33:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0MHXa7i026430 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:33:36 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 22 09:33:34 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0MHXXmT014989; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:33:34 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0MHWN415664; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:32:24 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0MHTrK128566 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:29:53 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 22 09:29:51 2002 -0800 Received: from mail.bellhow.com (fw.bellhow.com [63.121.54.5]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0MHTo37000721 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:29:50 -0800 Received: from wgs.apps1.bellhow.com (wgs.apps1.bellhow.com [192.168.70.70]) by mail.bellhow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27400; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:29:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (herrick@localhost) by wgs.apps1.bellhow.com (8.8.4/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA07868; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:29:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:29:43 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: daniel lance herrick To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine questions (4.4X?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Gopi Sundaram X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: wgs.apps1.bellhow.com: herrick owned process doing -bs X-Sender: herrick@wgs.apps1.bellhow.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 94 On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Gopi Sundaram wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Kenneth Crudup wrote: > > > - Is there any way, via keystrokes, to (R)eply to the original > > poster even if Reply-to: is set in the message (I don't want to set > > this in the config, as 99% of the time I want to use "Reply-To:" > Umm, you don't want to use the config option for it, but you still want > the functionality. I can only offer a poor work-around: Before replying > to the message, copy the sender's address into the clipboard, then when > you reply, paste it into the headers. I don't understand. I'm using 4.21 on Solaris. When I "r" Reply to a message with a Reply-To: header, pine asks if I want to use the Reply-To addresse instead of the Sender address before asking me if I want to Reply to everyone who saw the first message. Answering "n" No to that question sends the reply to only the singular sender, unless I then answer "y" yes to the reply to all question. Was that feature removed later? dan dlh@dlh.com http://www.NationalReform.org/ - Explicitly Christian Politics Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh, but in vain. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:50:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0MHok7i005234 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:50:46 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 22 09:50:38 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0MHobmT015561; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:50:38 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0MHoGb21102; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:50:17 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0MHneK06656 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:49:41 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 22 09:49:40 2002 -0800 Received: from moultrie.cse.sc.edu ([129.252.138.7]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0MHne37007708 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:49:40 -0800 Received: from mum.cse.sc.edu (mum.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.21]) by moultrie.cse.sc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBBA01FA34 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:49:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:49:35 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine questions (4.4X?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gopalan@mum.cse.sc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 95 On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, daniel lance herrick wrote: > When I "r" Reply to a message with a Reply-To: header, pine asks if > I want to use the Reply-To addresse instead of the Sender address You can choose to always use the Reply-To: header by selecting the following under (M)ain (S)etup (C)onfig: [X] reply-always-uses-reply-to That's what the OP had an issue with. He wanted an exception keystroke. -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cse.sc.edu http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:53:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0MHrP7i005944 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:53:27 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 22 09:53:19 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0MHrIPs016169; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:53:18 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0MHgqb16344; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:42:52 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0MHg1K73606 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:42:02 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 22 09:42:01 2002 -0800 Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.0.167]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0MHg0AZ000804 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:42:00 -0800 Received: from 209-162-38-182.thegrid.net (localhost.panix.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D065E981CD for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:41:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:41:54 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Kenneth Crudup To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine questions (4.4X?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: kenny@ProStar.localdomain X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 96 On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, daniel lance herrick wrote: > Answering "n" No to that question sends the reply > to only the singular sender, unless I then answer > "y" yes to the reply to all question. > Was that feature removed later? The only option I saw in 4.4X was to change the behavior of Pine to either/or send to all/send to one; didn't appear to prompt me. -Kenny -- Kenneth R. Crudup Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Washington, D.C. Home1: PO Box 914 Silver Spring, MD 20910-0914 kenny@panix.com Home2: 38010 Village Cmn. #217 Fremont, CA 94536-7525 (510) 745-0101 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:56:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0MHuL7i009913 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:56:22 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 22 09:56:19 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0MHuJPs016270; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:56:19 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0MHtvx21328; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:55:57 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0MHtKK30396 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:55:20 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 22 09:55:20 2002 -0800 Received: from moultrie.cse.sc.edu ([129.252.138.7]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0MHtJAZ005264 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:55:20 -0800 Received: from mum.cse.sc.edu (mum.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.21]) by moultrie.cse.sc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 579EF1FA28 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:55:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:55:19 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine questions (4.4X?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gopalan@mum.cse.sc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 97 On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Kenneth Crudup wrote (quoting me): >> Use a password file. > > I don't use PC-Pine- where's this in the 4.4X *NIX distro? You have to enable this during compilation. Read the Pine tech-notes: Specifically, look at the definition for PASSFILE. The compile-time definition should be done in pine/pine.h. search in that file for the PASSFILE definition. It will be either commented out or #undef'd. Edit that line. -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cse.sc.edu http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:01:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0MI1Q7i005056 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:01:28 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 22 10:01:17 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0MI1HPs016452; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:01:17 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0MI0jx05976; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:00:45 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0MHxKK44032 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:59:20 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 22 09:59:19 2002 -0800 Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.0.213]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0MHxI37011203 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:59:18 -0800 Received: from 209-162-38-182.thegrid.net (localhost.panix.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D80E8EA3 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:59:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:59:10 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Kenneth Crudup To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine questions (4.4X?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: kenny@ProStar.localdomain X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 98 On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Gopi Sundaram wrote: > You have to enable this during compilation. Thanks. -Kenny -- Kenneth R. Crudup Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Washington, D.C. Home1: PO Box 914 Silver Spring, MD 20910-0914 kenny@panix.com Home2: 38010 Village Cmn. #217 Fremont, CA 94536-7525 (510) 745-0101 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 17:30:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0N1UA7i002057 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 17:30:11 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 22 17:30:09 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0N1U8Ps032156; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 17:30:09 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0N1Tdb09714; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 17:29:40 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0N0UhK122050 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 16:32:52 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 22 16:29:36 2002 -0800 Received: from genie.gene.com (genie-open.gene.com [192.12.78.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0N0TZAZ004569 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 16:29:36 -0800 Received: from gene.com (tallac.gene.com [128.137.116.213]) by genie.gene.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g0N0TZL80679 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 16:29:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rkh@localhost) by gene.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0N0TYE06908 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 16:29:34 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 16:29:34 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: rkh@gene.COM Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: rkh@gene.COM To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine + ldap returns user`@missing-hostname' MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: Reece Hart X-Mailer-Is-Bogus: X-Mailer was forged for authentication X-Attribution: reece X-URL: http://www.in-machina.com/~reece/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 99 Muller, Lin, & pine-info list- Many months ago, both of you posted regarding problems using ldap with pine which resulted in email addresses to user@`missing-hostname'. I have the same problem with the current Pine 4.44 (and prior versions) and I haven't been able to find a solution myself or in newsgroups. Did either of you ever figure this out? Thanks, Reece -- Reece Hart, Ph.D. rkh@gene.com, http://www.gene.com/ Genentech, Inc. 650/225-6133 (voice), -5389 (fax) Bioinformatics Department 1 DNA Way, MS-93 http://www.in-machina.com/~reece/ South San Francisco, CA 94080-4990 reece@in-machina.com, GPG: 0x25EC91A0 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 18:20:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0N2KJ7i017618 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 18:20:20 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 22 18:20:17 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0N2KHPs001039; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 18:20:17 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0N2Jvb17176; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 18:19:57 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0N2JNK123914 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 18:19:23 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 22 18:19:20 2002 -0800 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.247.226]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0N2JJpj021737 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 18:19:19 -0800 Received: from localhost (tonytung@localhost) by soda.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g0N2JJ116825 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 18:19:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tonytung@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 18:19:19 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Tony Tung To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: correct for timezone in index format MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 100 Hi all, Is there a way to have pine correct for the timezone when displaying the date/time in the index? All the date/time tokens appear to not correct for the timezone. Without such a feature, there are messages that appear to be arriving from the future :). Thanks, Tony -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:51:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0NKpC7i010497 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:51:13 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 23 12:51:10 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0NKpAmT025291; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:51:10 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0NKnRkG026134; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:49:27 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0NKlJw6040474 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:47:19 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 23 12:47:19 2002 -0800 Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (nat-pool-meridian.redhat.com [12.107.208.200]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0NKlI37019940 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:47:18 -0800 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g0NKlFK07699; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:47:15 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:47:15 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: compression program In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Freda B Birnbaum X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: devserv.devel.redhat.com: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 101 On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Freda B Birnbaum wrote: >Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:02:50 -0500 (EST) >From: Freda B Birnbaum >To: Pine Discussion Forum >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Subject: compression program > >Is there such a thing as a compression/decompression program that will >work on BOTH a Unix platform AND and Windows (at the DOS prompt)? > >I've been using gzip / gunzip to compress / uncompress files on my Unix >account, but obviously if I save the zipped files to the PC, I can't use >gunzip there to unzip them. Of course it takes lots less time to download >zipped files than unzipped ones. But it would be nice to be able to unzip >them on the PC instead of uploading them back to the Unix platform. > >The question arises because I use PC-Pine to save old email on the PC (or >ZIP disks). PC-Pine is just terrific for this! Well, you could either use tar and gzip/gunzip in DOS - after downloading them of course, or you could use zip/unzip in both OS's. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike A. Harris Shipping/mailing address: OS Systems Engineer 190 Pittsburgh Ave., Sault Ste. Marie, XFree86 maintainer Ontario, Canada, P6C 5B3 Red Hat Inc. Phone: (705)949-2136 http://www.redhat.com ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris Red Hat XFree86 mailing list: xfree86-list@redhat.com General open IRC discussion: #xfree86 on irc.openprojects.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:51:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0NKpK7i023560 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:51:20 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 23 12:51:18 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0NKpImT025293; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:51:18 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0NKoNKT016916; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:50:23 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0NKlpw6156076 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:47:51 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 23 12:47:51 2002 -0800 Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (nat-pool-meridian.redhat.com [12.107.208.200]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0NKlopj004895 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:47:50 -0800 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g0NKlnV08273; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:47:49 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:47:49 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: compression program In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Kenneth Crudup X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: devserv.devel.redhat.com: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 102 On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Kenneth Crudup wrote: >Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:09:08 -0800 (PST) >From: Kenneth Crudup >To: Pine Discussion Forum >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Subject: Re: compression program > >On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Freda B Birnbaum wrote: > >> Is there such a thing as a compression/decompression program that will >> work on BOTH a Unix platform AND and Windows (at the DOS prompt)? > >Yeah, "pkzip"/"pkunzip". Get it from pkware.com for MS, "freshmeat" for *NIX. Why not just use the open source zip/unzip programs instead? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike A. Harris Shipping/mailing address: OS Systems Engineer 190 Pittsburgh Ave., Sault Ste. Marie, XFree86 maintainer Ontario, Canada, P6C 5B3 Red Hat Inc. Phone: (705)949-2136 http://www.redhat.com ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris Red Hat XFree86 mailing list: xfree86-list@redhat.com General open IRC discussion: #xfree86 on irc.openprojects.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 19:23:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0O3ND7i020079 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 19:23:14 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 23 19:23:12 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0O3NCmT003862; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 19:23:12 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0O3MYkG016226; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 19:22:35 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0O3IEw6163182 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 19:18:14 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 23 19:18:13 2002 -0800 Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.0.167]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0O3ID37027587 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 19:18:13 -0800 Received: from cahome.localdomain (localhost.panix.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1894698242 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 22:18:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 19:18:06 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Kenneth Crudup To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: compression program In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: kenny@cahome.localdomain X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 103 > >Yeah, "pkzip"/"pkunzip". Get it from pkware.com for MS, "freshmeat" for *NIX. On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Mike A. Harris wrote: > Why not just use the open source zip/unzip programs instead? Those are the ones on freshmeat. -Kenny -- Kenneth R. Crudup Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Washington, D.C. Home1: PO Box 914 Silver Spring, MD 20910-0914 kenny@panix.com Home2: 38010 Village Cmn. #217 Fremont, CA 94536-7525 (510) 745-0101 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 01:00:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0O90g7i024756 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 01:00:44 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 24 01:00:31 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0O90UmT009758; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 01:00:30 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0O8xVKT015590; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 00:59:32 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0O8ubw6110688 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 00:56:37 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 24 00:56:37 2002 -0800 Received: from megaloman.megaloman.sk ([62.168.101.252]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0O8uTWn026595 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 00:56:35 -0800 Received: from localhost (hany@localhost) by megaloman.megaloman.sk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0O8uPn22715 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:56:25 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:56:25 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Peter Hanecak To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.44: sending mail through local sendmail with enabled TLS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: hany@megaloman.megaloman.sk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 104 Hello, yesterday I upgraded my Pine to version 4.44 and from that moment I've been unable to send e-mails: [Sending mail | |] Problem detected: "Received abort signal". Pine Exiting. Enabling "enable-verbose-smtp-posting" (and using ^X^WY) does not reveal any new messages. This crash is for sure related to fact, that my sendmail has enabled TLS (using openssl library and certificate signed by my own CA certificate). First I suspected that certificate should be signed by some "root" CA so I put my CA certificate info /usr/share/ssl/cert.pem but it does not help. Only when I disabled TLS in sendmail the problem "disapeared" so now I'm able to post messages using pine. Do anyone have someinformation about how to use both sendmail with TLS and new pine? Is this related to "* Crash when talking to SMTP server which offers STARTTLS" mentioned in "Changes from Pine 4.40 to 4.41"? BTW (maybe it is useless but maybe not), part of strace output: ... open("/usr/share/ssl/cert.pem", O_RDONLY) = 7 fstat64(7, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=251330, ...}) = 0 old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4001f000 read(7, "##\n## Extracted from the mod_ss"..., 4096) = 4096 ...... read(7, "\neUBtZWdhbG9tYW4uY29tMB4XDTAxMDI"..., 4096) = 1474 brk(0x8375000) = 0x8375000 brk(0x8376000) = 0x8376000 read(7, "", 4096) = 0 getpid() = 22404 getpid() = 22404 getpid() = 22404 close(7) = 0 munmap(0x4001f000, 4096) = 0 open(umovestr: Input/output error 0, O_RDONLY) = -1 EFAULT (Bad address) getpid() = 22404 getpid() = 22404 getpid() = 22404 getpid() = 22404 getpid() = 22404 getpid() = 22404 time(NULL) = 1011794019 getpid() = 22404 brk(0x837c000) = 0x837c000 brk(0x8381000) = 0x8381000 brk(0x8386000) = 0x8386000 time(NULL) = 1011794019 time(NULL) = 1011794019 getpid() = 22404 getpid() = 22404 getpid() = 22404 open("/dev/urandom", O_RDONLY) = 7 read(7, "R\354\260\310\r\303\224H>u\351Jx]\237\302\267\316\371\257"..., 20) = 20 close(7) = 0 getpid() = 22404 getpid() = 22404 getuid32() = 500 getpid() = 22404 time(NULL) = 1011794019 getpid() = 22404 ... now this repeats for about 30 times ... getpid() = 22404 write(135419392, "\26\3\1\0S\1\0\0O\3\1 GPG pub.key: http://www.megaloman.com/gpg/hanecak-megaloman.txt =================================================================== -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:33:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0P0X07i026054 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:33:01 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 24 16:32:58 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0P0WwPs001882; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:32:58 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0P0VDEr024092; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:31:15 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0ON60w6016702 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 15:06:00 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 24 15:05:59 2002 -0800 Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (nat-pool-meridian.redhat.com [12.107.208.200]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0ON5xWn012957 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 15:05:59 -0800 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g0ON5s719945; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 18:05:54 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 18:05:54 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: compression program In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Kenneth Crudup X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: devserv.devel.redhat.com: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 105 On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Kenneth Crudup wrote: >Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 19:18:06 -0800 (PST) >From: Kenneth Crudup >To: Pine Discussion Forum >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Subject: Re: compression program > > >> >Yeah, "pkzip"/"pkunzip". Get it from pkware.com for MS, "freshmeat" for *NIX. > >On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Mike A. Harris wrote: > >> Why not just use the open source zip/unzip programs instead? > >Those are the ones on freshmeat. Yes, but: > >Yeah, "pkzip"/"pkunzip". Get it from pkware.com for MS, "freshmeat" for *NIX." was what I was commenting on. pkzip/pkunzip is closed source. zip/unzip are the open source alternatives. I was just curious why one would want to use pkzip/pkunzip instead of zip/unzip. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike A. Harris Shipping/mailing address: OS Systems Engineer 190 Pittsburgh Ave., Sault Ste. Marie, XFree86 maintainer Ontario, Canada, P6C 5B3 Red Hat Inc. Phone: (705)949-2136 http://www.redhat.com ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris Red Hat XFree86 mailing list: xfree86-list@redhat.com General open IRC discussion: #xfree86 on irc.openprojects.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:34:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PJYb7i021237 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:34:38 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 25 11:34:35 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0PJYZmT024849; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:34:35 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PJXVAf015098; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:33:32 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PJV5w6103778 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:31:05 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 25 11:31:05 2002 -0800 Received: from blackhawk.dartas.com (blackhawk.dartas.com [64.40.200.98]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0PJV337031877 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:31:03 -0800 Received: from appserv1 (tstroup.users.netset.com [64.40.199.161]) by blackhawk.dartas.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id g0PJV0IX013313 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:31:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:31:01 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Todd R. Stroup" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Error message.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 106 When trying to send mail with pine 4.43 I get this error.. Mail not sent. Sending error: 421 4.3.0 collect: Cannot write ./dfg0PJ Where does this come from and why do I get it? What can I do to fix this? T..S -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:24:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PKOb7i014662 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:24:38 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 25 12:24:31 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0PKOVPs027190; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:24:31 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PKNYEr014676; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:23:35 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PKKdw6108862 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:20:40 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 25 12:20:34 2002 -0800 Received: from aa.linuxbox.nu ([208.149.147.127]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0PKKTAZ001418 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:20:34 -0800 Received: from apollo.linuxbox.private.nu (arthur@apollo.linuxbox.private.nu [10.1.1.42]) by aa.linuxbox.nu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g0PKG6Z29524; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:16:06 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:18:06 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Arthur H. Johnson II" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Error message.. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Todd R. Stroup" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: arthur@apollo.linuxbox.private.nu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 107 What platform are you on? Arthur H. Johnson II The Linux Box http://www.linuxbox.nu arthur@linuxbox.nu On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Todd R. Stroup wrote: > > When trying to send mail with pine 4.43 I get this error.. > > Mail not sent. Sending error: 421 4.3.0 collect: Cannot write ./dfg0PJ > > Where does this come from and why do I get it? What can I do to fix this? > > T..S > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:50:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PKoI7i021494 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:50:18 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 25 12:50:16 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0PKoGmT027068; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:50:16 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PKnVAf021756; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:49:32 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PKkXw6093962 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:46:34 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 25 12:46:33 2002 -0800 Received: from blackhawk.dartas.com (blackhawk.dartas.com [64.40.200.98]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0PKkWAZ008062 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:46:32 -0800 Received: from appserv1 (tstroup.users.netset.com [64.40.199.161]) by blackhawk.dartas.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id g0PKkNIX013687; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:46:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:46:24 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Todd R. Stroup" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Error message.. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Arthur H. Johnson II" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 108 Solaris 8 w/ sendmail 8.12.. >From the debug it looks like it calls sendmail just fine but after that not sure where it's trying to write this file at.. I'm able to get pop mail just fine. 15:10:19.747983 Opened SMTP server "blackhawk" 15:10:19.748554 IMAP DEBUG 15:10:19.748936 1/25: RSET 15:10:19.750196 IMAP DEBUG 15:10:19.750636 1/25: 250 2.0.0 Reset state 15:10:19.751390 IMAP DEBUG 15:10:19.751781 1/25: MAIL FROM: 15:10:19.766065 IMAP DEBUG 15:10:19.766538 1/25: 250 2.1.0 ... Sender ok 15:10:19.767417 IMAP DEBUG 15:10:19.767811 1/25: RCPT TO: 15:10:19.776130 IMAP DEBUG 15:10:19.776576 1/25: 250 2.1.5 ... Recipient ok 15:10:19.777327 IMAP DEBUG 15:10:19.777730 1/25: DATA 15:10:19.779164 IMAP DEBUG 15:10:19.779620 1/25: 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself 15:10:19.780346 -- pine_rfc822_output 15:10:19.780811 busy_alarm(1, Busy, 0, 0) 15:10:19.781451 -- pine_encode_body: 0 15:10:19.783229 -- pine_rfc822_output_body: 0 15:10:19.783816 -- pine_rfc822_output_body: segment 0 bytes 15:10:19.784377 -- gf_reset local_nvtnl 15:10:19.784957 -- gf_pipe: 15:10:19.785538 done. 15:10:19.786070 IMAP DEBUG 15:10:19.786455 1/25: . 15:10:19.792838 IMAP DEBUG 15:10:19.793295 1/25: 421 4.3.0 collect: Cannot write ./dfg0PKAJTa013525 (bfcommit, uid =25, gid=25): Permission denied 15:10:19.794033 Mail not sent. Sending error: 421 4.3.0 collect: Cannot write ./dfg0PK 15:10:19.802701 SIGCHLD raised T..S -----Original Message----- From: Arthur H. Johnson II [mailto:arthur@linuxbox.nu] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 3:18 PM To: Todd R. Stroup Cc: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Error message.. What platform are you on? Arthur H. Johnson II The Linux Box http://www.linuxbox.nu arthur@linuxbox.nu On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Todd R. Stroup wrote: > > When trying to send mail with pine 4.43 I get this error.. > > Mail not sent. Sending error: 421 4.3.0 collect: Cannot write ./dfg0PJ > > Where does this come from and why do I get it? What can I do to fix this? > > T..S > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:24:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PLOc7i029307 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:24:39 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 25 13:24:35 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0PLOZPs028817; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:24:35 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PLNgKT016412; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:23:42 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PLLIw6046486 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:21:18 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 25 13:21:14 2002 -0800 Received: from moultrie.cse.sc.edu ([129.252.138.7]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0PLLDAZ018073 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:21:14 -0800 Received: from mum.cse.sc.edu (mum.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.21]) by moultrie.cse.sc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8321FA2D for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:21:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:21:13 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Error message.. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gopalan@mum.cse.sc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 109 On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Todd R. Stroup wrote: It looks like the message is coming from your MTA, not Pine. Investigate it on that end. -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cse.sc.edu http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:28:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PLRw7i027155 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:27:59 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 25 13:27:51 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0PLRpPs028912; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:27:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PLQHAf020780; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:26:18 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PLO7w6070846 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:24:07 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 25 13:24:07 2002 -0800 Received: from erebus.rutgers.edu (erebus.Rutgers.EDU [165.230.116.132]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PLO6AZ018924 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:24:07 -0800 Received: (qmail 17205 invoked by alias); 25 Jan 2002 21:24:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 17198 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2002 21:24:04 -0000 Received: from jahannan.rutgers.edu (165.230.116.163) by erebus.rutgers.edu with SMTP; 25 Jan 2002 21:24:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 7184 invoked by uid 27864); 25 Jan 2002 21:24:05 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:24:05 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Help for RCI Users To: Pine Discussion Forum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: help@jahannan.rutgers.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 110 In hopes of using pine for mass mailing in as automated a way as possible, is there a way to supply subject on the command line? Here is a sample command: pine -attach xxx.html -signature-file=xxx/file1 harry@imcs,john@aesop We're looking for some way to imitate the mailx -s"this goes on subject line" harry@imcs Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:34:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PLYc7i001592 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:34:41 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 25 13:34:37 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0PLYaPs029098; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:34:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PLXXkG017854; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:33:33 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PLVMw6159600 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:31:22 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 25 13:31:22 2002 -0800 Received: from blackhawk.dartas.com (blackhawk.dartas.com [64.40.200.98]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0PLVL37001428 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:31:22 -0800 Received: from appserv1 (tstroup.users.netset.com [64.40.199.161]) by blackhawk.dartas.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id g0PLVIIX013912; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:31:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:31:18 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Todd R. Stroup" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Error message.. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Gopi Sundaram" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 111 Like I said - I'm getting pop mail just fine.... it appears, from the debug that I sent earlier, to be some type of temp file or something that pine is creating somewhere that is doesn't have permission to write to. bash-2.05# telnet localhost 25 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. 220 blackhawk.dartas.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.2/8.12.2; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:27:59 -0500 (EST) helo dartas.com 250 blackhawk.dartas.com Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you mail from:tstroup@dartas.com 250 2.1.0 tstroup@dartas.com... Sender ok rcpt to:tstroup@dartas.com 250 2.1.5 tstroup@dartas.com... Recipient ok data 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself This is a test of the MTA -even though I'm getting mail fine with pop. . 250 2.0.0 g0PLRxIX013893 Message accepted for delivery -----Original Message----- From: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu [mailto:PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of Gopi Sundaram Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 4:21 PM To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Error message.. On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Todd R. Stroup wrote: It looks like the message is coming from your MTA, not Pine. Investigate it on that end. -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cse.sc.edu http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:57:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PLvX7i002150 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:57:34 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 25 13:57:21 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0PLvLmT028868; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:57:21 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PLugkG019386; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:56:42 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PLsMw6176218 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:54:22 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 25 13:54:21 2002 -0800 Received: from moultrie.cse.sc.edu ([129.252.138.7]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0PLsJpj011094 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:54:20 -0800 Received: from mum.cse.sc.edu (mum.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.21]) by moultrie.cse.sc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C7F1FA2D for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:54:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:54:19 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gopalan@mum.cse.sc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 112 On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Help for RCI Users wrote: > In hopes of using pine for mass mailing in as automated a way as > possible, mail or mailx is a better tool for this. > is there a way to supply subject on the command line? Yes. Use the -url mailto:address@domain?subject=blah syntax. This precludes the use of input redirection and -attach so too bad. In any case, you will need to apply the "Send from command-line" patch by Eduardo Chappa. You can pick it up from his page at http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ > --- Please use proper sig-dashes. "-- " is the sequence you want (leave out the quotes, leave in the space). -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cse.sc.edu http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:00:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PM0S7i014115 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:00:28 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 25 14:00:26 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0PM0PmT028982; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:00:25 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PLxnKT012630; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:59:49 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PLvlw6159634 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:57:47 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 25 13:57:45 2002 -0800 Received: from moultrie.cse.sc.edu ([129.252.138.7]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0PLvjpj012260 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:57:45 -0800 Received: from mum.cse.sc.edu (mum.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.21]) by moultrie.cse.sc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A337B1FA2D for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:57:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:57:44 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Error message.. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gopalan@mum.cse.sc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 113 On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Todd R. Stroup wrote: > Like I said - I'm getting pop mail just fine.... That has nothing to do with this. > it appears, from the debug that I sent earlier, to be some type of > temp file or something that pine is creating somewhere that is doesn't > have permission to write to. To me, it looked like the debug message was from the MTA. What is your smtp-server option set to in your .pinerc? If it is set to a mail server, then try TELNETing to port 25 and talking SMTP to the mail server, and see if you can get mail through. If it is blank, try running mail -v from the command-line and see if you get any errors. -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cse.sc.edu http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:37:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PMat7i016957 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:37:01 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 25 14:36:54 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0PMarmT030065; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:36:53 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PMa3Er020772; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:36:03 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0PMXSw6176348 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:33:28 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jan 25 14:33:27 2002 -0800 Received: from blackhawk.dartas.com (blackhawk.dartas.com [64.40.200.98]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0PMXRpj023212 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:33:27 -0800 Received: from appserv1 (tstroup.users.netset.com [64.40.199.161]) by blackhawk.dartas.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id g0PMXN22014334; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:33:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:33:24 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Todd R. Stroup" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Error message.. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Gopi Sundaram" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 114 Ya.. maybe so.. I'll do some more digging. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu [mailto:PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of Gopi Sundaram Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 4:58 PM To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Error message.. On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Todd R. Stroup wrote: > Like I said - I'm getting pop mail just fine.... That has nothing to do with this. > it appears, from the debug that I sent earlier, to be some type of > temp file or something that pine is creating somewhere that is doesn't > have permission to write to. To me, it looked like the debug message was from the MTA. What is your smtp-server option set to in your .pinerc? If it is set to a mail server, then try TELNETing to port 25 and talking SMTP to the mail server, and see if you can get mail through. If it is blank, try running mail -v from the command-line and see if you get any errors. -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cse.sc.edu http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 11:55:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0RJtE7i006923 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 11:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 27 11:55:09 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0RJt9mT009324; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 11:55:09 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0RJrEAf020100; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 11:53:15 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0RJnbw6056164 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 11:49:37 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 27 11:49:35 2002 -0800 Received: from donkeykong.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (donkeykong.gpcc.itd.umich.edu [141.211.2.163]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0RJnYWn023328 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 11:49:35 -0800 Received: from gpcc.itd.umich.edu (smtp@metacortex.gpcc.itd.umich.edu [141.213.230.75]) by donkeykong.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (8.8.8/4.3-mailhub) with ESMTP id OAA14203 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 14:49:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smeyer@localhost) by gpcc.itd.umich.edu (8.9.1a/4.9.1-cyrus) id OAA09442 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 14:49:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200201271949.OAA09442@gpcc.itd.umich.edu> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 14:49:34 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Seth Meyer To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.44 not reusing valid K5 SVC TKT to form GSS SASL authenticator X-Sender: smeyer@gpcc.itd.umich.edu X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 115 My build of Pine 4.44 appears to not be reusing valid K5 service tickets. I am able to generate the K5 CCACHE below by switching between folders on a GSS-capable UW IMAP server: Ticket cache: FILE:/ticket/k5cc_33204_17738 Default principal: smeyer@UMICH.EDU Valid starting Expires Service principal 01/27/02 13:47:11 01/27/02 23:47:11 krbtgt/UMICH.EDU@UMICH.EDU 01/27/02 13:48:42 01/27/02 23:47:11 imap/gremlins.imap.itd.umich.edu@UMICH.EDU 01/27/02 13:48:42 01/27/02 23:47:11 imap/gremlins.imap.itd.umich.edu@UMICH.EDU 01/27/02 13:48:54 01/27/02 23:47:11 imap/gremlins.imap.itd.umich.edu@UMICH.EDU 01/27/02 13:48:56 01/27/02 23:47:11 imap/gremlins.imap.itd.umich.edu@UMICH.EDU 01/27/02 13:55:09 01/27/02 23:47:11 imap/gremlins.imap.itd.umich.edu@UMICH.EDU 01/27/02 13:55:13 01/27/02 23:47:11 imap/gremlins.imap.itd.umich.edu@UMICH.EDU 01/27/02 13:55:18 01/27/02 23:47:11 imap/gremlins.imap.itd.umich.edu@UMICH.EDU 01/27/02 13:55:24 01/27/02 23:47:11 imap/gremlins.imap.itd.umich.edu@UMICH.EDU 01/27/02 13:55:30 01/27/02 23:47:11 imap/gremlins.imap.itd.umich.edu@UMICH.EDU 01/27/02 13:57:21 01/27/02 23:47:11 imap/gremlins.imap.itd.umich.edu@UMICH.EDU 01/27/02 13:57:32 01/27/02 23:47:11 imap/gremlins.imap.itd.umich.edu@UMICH.EDU 01/27/02 13:57:34 01/27/02 23:47:11 imap/gremlins.imap.itd.umich.edu@UMICH.EDU 01/27/02 13:57:38 01/27/02 23:47:11 imap/gremlins.imap.itd.umich.edu@UMICH.EDU 01/27/02 13:57:43 01/27/02 23:47:11 imap/gremlins.imap.itd.umich.edu@UMICH.EDU 01/27/02 14:02:24 01/27/02 23:47:11 imap/gremlins.imap.itd.umich.edu@UMICH.EDU 01/27/02 14:03:16 01/27/02 23:47:11 imap/gremlins.imap.itd.umich.edu@UMICH.EDU 01/27/02 14:03:24 01/27/02 23:47:11 imap/gremlins.imap.itd.umich.edu@UMICH.EDU 01/27/02 14:03:33 01/27/02 23:47:11 imap/gremlins.imap.itd.umich.edu@UMICH.EDU Using network trace data I have verified that everytime I switch folders, Pine talks to the KDC, in lieu of reusing the valid svc tkt to form a GSS SASL authenticator. I have reproduced this behavior with Pine 4.43 and 4.44 with MIT Krb5 1.2.2 and 1.2.1 libraries, against imap version 2001.315um1 (a UMich-modified version of the 2001 UW IMAP release, built against MIT 1.2.2 K5 libraries), on the Solaris 8 64 and 32 bit environments, with Forte 6.2 (patched). Our KDC is a slightly-modified version of MIT Krb5 1.2.1. Has anybody seen this behavior at their site? I have network trace data and Pine debug files for anyone interested in pursuing this. Seth -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:41:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0SJfv7i023973 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:41:57 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jan 28 11:41:56 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0SJftPs006868; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:41:55 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0SJf5Er045458; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:41:05 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0SJCVw6090050 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:12:31 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jan 28 11:12:30 2002 -0800 Received: from Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM (ikkoku-kan.panda.com [206.124.149.114]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0SJCUAZ004278 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:12:30 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:01:05 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mark Crispin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.44 not reusing valid K5 SVC TKT to form GSS SASL authenticator MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Sender: Mark Crispin X-To: Seth Meyer X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 116 Hello - I tried on two different platforms, and could not reproduce the problem. I wonder if there is some problem in your modifications to the MIT Kerberos libraries. The details of Kerberos tickets and their reuse occurs within the MIT Kerberos libraries and not in Pine or its c-client library. The c-client library does gss_init_sec_context() calls for that principal, as specified in the SASL specification. It is completely clueless about tickets, much less ticket caches. For some reason, your Kerberos library's gss_init_sec_context() implementation is re-negotiating with the KDC instead of using the cache. I'm sorry that I couldn't be more helpful. Have you tried a Pine built with an unmodified MIT Kerberos library? -- Mark -- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:42:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0SKgg7i012233 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:42:44 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jan 28 12:42:40 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0SKgdmT007089; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:42:40 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0SKfKkG010462; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:41:20 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0SKb7w6084660 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:37:07 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jan 28 12:37:01 2002 -0800 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0SKb1pj029486 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:37:01 -0800 Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.12]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0SKadUC016874; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:36:39 -0800 Received: from Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.58]) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0SKaZJU011092 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:36:38 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:36:35 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mark Crispin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.44: sending mail through local sendmail with enabled TLS In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="16819560-153076254-1012250195=:8143" X-To: Peter Hanecak X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum , Pine Team X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 117 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --16819560-153076254-1012250195=:8143 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Peter Hanecak wrote: > Problem detected: "Received abort signal". > Pine Exiting. > > This crash is for sure related to fact, that my sendmail has enabled TLS > (using openssl library and certificate signed by my own CA certificate). Hello - Please try rebuilding your copy of Pine 4.44 after replacing your current pine4.44/imap/src/c-client/smtp.c file with the version which I have attached to this message. Make sure that smtp.c is recompiled when doing the rebuild. 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Message-Id: <20020128204718.Q12229-100000@pooh.ASARian.org> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:52:50 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Fuzzy To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: trying to install pine 4.44 on freebsd 4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-No-Archive: Yes X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 118 I'm trying to install pine 4.44 on freebsd 4.4. the initial freebsd port was pine 4.33. I downloaded the files that make up the port and then ran make to 'fetch' the actual tarball. I tried to create it by "./build bsf" which is supposed to build pine it appears to have trouble finding a header from c-client. I found the headers in /usr/local/include/c-client/. the build script is looking for them in /include/c-client/, and failing to find them. how do I tell build where to look for them? thanks Fuzzy (script log of ./build bsf) Script started on Sun Jan 27 21:34:22 2002 pooh /usr/ports/mail/pine4/work/pine4.44# ./build bsf make args are CC=cc bsf Making Pico and Pilot make CC=cc -f makefile.bsf Making Pine and rpload/rpdump. make CC=cc -f makefile.bsf make: don't know how to make /include/c-client/mail.h. Stop Links to executables are in bin directory: /usr/libexec/elf/size: bin/pine: No such file or directory text data bss dec hex filename 157531 5092 6492 169115 2949b bin/pico 155543 4964 6492 166999 28c57 bin/pilot Done -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 01:46:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0T9kM7i001129 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 01:46:23 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 29 01:46:20 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0T9kKmT024838; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 01:46:20 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0T9jIKT015228; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 01:45:18 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0T9gYw6075662 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 01:42:34 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 29 01:42:33 2002 -0800 Received: from megaloman.megaloman.sk ([62.168.101.252]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0T9gVpj022538 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 01:42:32 -0800 Received: from localhost (hany@localhost) by megaloman.megaloman.sk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0T9gEN14931; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:42:14 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:42:12 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Peter Hanecak To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.44: sending mail through local sendmail with enabled TLS In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mark Crispin X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum , Pine Team X-X-Sender: hany@megaloman.megaloman.sk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 119 Hello, On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Mark Crispin wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Peter Hanecak wrote: > > Problem detected: "Received abort signal". > > Pine Exiting. > > > > This crash is for sure related to fact, that my sendmail has enabled TLS > > (using openssl library and certificate signed by my own CA certificate). > > Please try rebuilding your copy of Pine 4.44 after replacing your current > pine4.44/imap/src/c-client/smtp.c > file with the version which I have attached to this message. Make sure > that smtp.c is recompiled when doing the rebuild. > > After doing this, please let me know whether or not that fixes the > problem. Still same. I put some ugly debuging output in imap/src/c-client/smtp.c: printf ("H: STARTTLS OK ...\n"); /* DEBUG */ if (sstream = (*stls) /* TLS started, negotiate it */ (stream->netstream->stream,mb.host, NET_TLSCLIENT | (mb.novalidate ? NET_NOVALIDATECERT : NIL))) { printf ("H: TLS OK ...\n"); /* DEBUG */ and output is like this: H: SMTP greeting OK ... [Sending mail | |] H: STARTTLS OK ... Problem detected: "Received abort signal". Pine Exiting. so maybe the problem is in: if (sstream = (*stls) /* TLS started, negotiate it */ (stream->netstream->stream,mb.host, NET_TLSCLIENT | (mb.novalidate ? NET_NOVALIDATECERT : NIL))) { ??? Sincerely Peter -- =================================================================== Peter Hanecak GPG pub.key: http://www.megaloman.com/gpg/hanecak-megaloman.txt =================================================================== From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 03:58:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0TBw77i029257 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 03:58:10 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 29 02:42:17 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0TAgGPs027883; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 02:42:16 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0TAfcEr013704; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 02:41:38 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0TAcxw6177858 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 02:39:00 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 29 02:38:56 2002 -0800 Received: from megaloman.megaloman.sk ([62.168.101.252]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0TAcn37012912 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 02:38:55 -0800 Received: from localhost (hany@localhost) by megaloman.megaloman.sk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0TAcbB18121; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:38:37 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:38:35 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Peter Hanecak To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.44: sending mail through local sendmail with enabled TLS In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mark Crispin X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum , Pine Team X-X-Sender: hany@megaloman.megaloman.sk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 120 Hello again, On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Mark Crispin wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Peter Hanecak wrote: > > Problem detected: "Received abort signal". > > Pine Exiting. > > > > This crash is for sure related to fact, that my sendmail has enabled TLS > > (using openssl library and certificate signed by my own CA certificate). > > Please try rebuilding your copy of Pine 4.44 after replacing your current > pine4.44/imap/src/c-client/smtp.c > file with the version which I have attached to this message. Make sure > that smtp.c is recompiled when doing the rebuild. > > After doing this, please let me know whether or not that fixes the > problem. after furher "investigation" I can write this: 1) 'reason' in imap/c-client/ssl_unix.c in ssl_start() is set to non null value: "SSL negotiation failed" - SSL_write() in ssl_start_work() fails ... 2) ... that's why imap/c-client/ssl_unix.c:ssl_abort() is called and in 'tcp_close (stream->tcpstream);' signal is received. Sincerely Peter -- =================================================================== Peter Hanecak GPG pub.key: http://www.megaloman.com/gpg/hanecak-megaloman.txt =================================================================== From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 09:01:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0TH1E7i011043 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 09:01:15 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 29 09:01:12 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0TH1BPs002947; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 09:01:11 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0TGxMkG019248; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:59:23 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0TGuIw6023904 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:56:18 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 29 08:56:17 2002 -0800 Received: from smtp.uvm.edu (badger.uvm.edu [132.198.101.184]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0TGuGAZ024348 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:56:16 -0800 Received: from gnu.uvm.edu (gnu.uvm.edu [132.198.101.64]) by smtp.uvm.edu (8.11.6/8.11.5) with ESMTP id g0TGuFP14792 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:56:15 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:56:15 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Aaron S. Hawley" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: trying to install pine 4.44 on freebsd 4.4 In-Reply-To: <20020128204718.Q12229-100000@pooh.ASARian.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: ashawley@gnu.uvm.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 121 in the pine subdirectory is the makefile for your platform. in there it uses a macro CCLIENTDIR. maybe specify what you want that to be on the command line. i could be wrong though. /a On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Fuzzy wrote: > I'm trying to install pine 4.44 on freebsd 4.4. the initial > freebsd port was pine 4.33. I downloaded the files that > make up the port and then ran make to 'fetch' the actual > tarball. I tried to create it by "./build bsf" which > is supposed to build pine it appears to have trouble > finding a header from c-client. > > I found the headers in /usr/local/include/c-client/. > > the build script is looking for them in /include/c-client/, > and failing to find them. how do I tell build where to > look for them? > > thanks -- __________________________________________ PINE 4.44 Mailer - www.washington.edu/pine From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:03:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0TJ3c7i010456 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:03:38 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 29 11:03:35 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0TJ3ZmT004815; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:03:35 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0TJ2SEr018880; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:02:28 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0TIxqw6175914 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:59:52 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 29 10:59:51 2002 -0800 Received: from pooh.ASARian.org (rdu57-250-124.nc.rr.com [66.57.250.124]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0TIxoWn018012 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:59:50 -0800 Received: from localhost (fuzzy@localhost) by pooh.ASARian.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0TItbF49135; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:55:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from fuzzy@pooh.asarian.org) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:55:35 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Fuzzy To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: trying to install pine 4.44 on freebsd 4.4 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Aaron S. Hawley" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-No-Archive: Yes X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 122 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- We redownloaded the tarball from u.washington.edu and removed the "port" installation attempt. then installed the direct from u.washington version. that one installed correctly. I do have a question about compile time options, where does one set them? would I just do: ./build DEFAULT_DEBUG=0 bsf thanks Fuz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iQCVAwUBPFbwKYCilGw9Fc89AQFYJQQAhWsI2WciSz9zKrZ2240cx2vOiSH39j7o tRQKTlaCsMk5aFJQ5JzkZjhVHyWqjgRP0rUwdm77NekMSWyy1n9It/eTf9+X6Rvw Wanf2S+h+OLhiAqmidzP1cNxqqTLkghYEbwkY6kDJpc7YKn6LBsHXj933Ns7SYq2 SBzAc2itxBM= =QOq5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:46:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0TKke7i027670 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:46:41 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 29 12:46:36 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0TKkZPs010342; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:46:35 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0TKiXkG032974; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:44:33 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0TKYCw6110300 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:34:12 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 29 12:34:11 2002 -0800 Received: from smtp.uvm.edu (badger.uvm.edu [132.198.101.184]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0TKYAWn021440 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:34:10 -0800 Received: from elk.uvm.edu (elk.uvm.edu [132.198.101.63]) by smtp.uvm.edu (8.11.6/8.11.5) with ESMTP id g0TKYAP30154 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 15:34:10 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 15:34:09 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Aaron S. Hawley" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: trying to install pine 4.44 on freebsd 4.4 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: ashawley@elk.uvm.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 123 On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Fuzzy wrote: > We redownloaded the tarball from u.washington.edu and > removed the "port" installation attempt. then installed > the direct from u.washington version. that one installed > correctly. > > I do have a question about compile time options, > where does one set them? > > would I just do: > > ./build DEFAULT_DEBUG=0 bsf yes. the answer to this question and many more can be found at: http://www.washington.edu/pine/tech-notes/installation.html#build > > thanks > > Fuz -- __________________________________________ PINE 4.44 Mailer - www.washington.edu/pine From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:19:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0TLJc7i011051 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:19:40 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 29 13:19:31 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0TLJVmT009733; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:19:31 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0TLITKT012908; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:18:29 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0TL8Ow6018396 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:08:24 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 29 13:08:23 2002 -0800 Received: from aa.linuxbox.nu ([208.149.147.127]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0TL8Ipj026310 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:08:23 -0800 Received: from apollo.linuxbox.private.nu (arthur@apollo.linuxbox.private.nu [10.1.1.42]) by aa.linuxbox.nu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g0TL3rZ01705; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 16:03:53 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 16:05:59 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Arthur H. Johnson II" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: trying to install pine 4.44 on freebsd 4.4 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Aaron S. Hawley" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: arthur@apollo.linuxbox.private.nu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 124 RTFM R ead T he F ree/ine/scking M anual Arthur H. Johnson II The Linux Box http://www.linuxbox.nu arthur@linuxbox.nu On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Aaron S. Hawley wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Fuzzy wrote: > > > We redownloaded the tarball from u.washington.edu and > > removed the "port" installation attempt. then installed > > the direct from u.washington version. that one installed > > correctly. > > > > I do have a question about compile time options, > > where does one set them? > > > > would I just do: > > > > ./build DEFAULT_DEBUG=0 bsf > > yes. the answer to this question and many more can be found at: > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/tech-notes/installation.html#build > > > > > thanks > > > > Fuz > > -- > __________________________________________ > PINE 4.44 Mailer - www.washington.edu/pine > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 16:59:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0U0xG7i032476 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 16:59:17 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 29 16:59:15 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0U0xFPs018531; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 16:59:15 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0U0wTkG020188; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 16:58:30 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0U0tOw6164886 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 16:55:24 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jan 29 16:55:21 2002 -0800 Received: from andrew.triumf.ca (andrew.Triumf.CA [142.90.106.59]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0U0tKWn010093 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 16:55:20 -0800 Received: from localhost (IDENT:andrew@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by andrew.triumf.ca (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g0U0tFg29787 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 16:55:15 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 16:55:14 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: Andrew Daviel Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Andrew Daviel To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: colours in Pine 4.44 HTML MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 125 ("color" for US-based searchers :-) ) I've been using Pine for ages (well, it seems like it anyway) and have inherited my rc file through various updates. I happen to like black-text-on-white and have my xterm set like that, can't be bothered to tune the colours so they're readable and have no-color set in the config. However, some HTML mail appears partly in colour. Recently, since 4.44 I think, I've noticed some with yellow-on-white for (nearly unreadable) and white-on-white for links (completely unreadable). This is a MIME email with 2 parts. Viewed as text, the yellow is gone (replaced by black) but the links are still invisible. Paradoxically, if I select term-color or 8-bit-color in the Pine config the message appears as grey-on-black with some white highlights. I confess I don't entirely understand colour in xterms etc. and attempt to turn it all off when I can. I was wondering why Pine generates colour when I've told it not to, and if there is some config for colour for bold, links, visited links etc., or if Pine recognizes colour in bgcolor or font elements in HTML I've just realized that I'm seeing different things in different xterms. I can't immediately see what was different about the way they were spawned. Oh foo... -- Andrew Daviel, TRIUMF, Canada Tel. +1 (604) 222-7376 security@triumf.ca -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:47:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0V1lj7i016252 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:47:45 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 30 17:47:40 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0V1lePs021119; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:47:40 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0V1j8Er033406; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:45:08 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0V1hPw6109042 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:43:25 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jan 30 17:43:24 2002 -0800 Received: from vax.hanford.org ([216.218.218.27]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0V1hOAZ029842 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:43:24 -0800 Received: (qmail 15073 invoked by uid 1828); 31 Jan 2002 01:41:58 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:41:58 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: why is pine de-capitalizing dash-connected-header words? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 126 i.e. on the same message, view all headers in pine is showing: Reply-to: Matt Ackeret yet Mail (the client I wrote it with) is showing: Reply-To: Matt Ackeret I realize this is fairly unimportant, but personally, I'd rather have the InterCapitalization, or at worst _have what was originally written_. esp on something like: Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit it looks weird to me to not have each word capitalized. seems like it should change as little data as possible to show me (esp in something like show all headers mode which is geeky by definition, and geeks want to do their OWN filtering of data). -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:49:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0VHnU7i014520 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:49:31 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 31 09:49:27 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0VHnRPs007001; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:49:27 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0VHkWAf022070; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:46:32 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0VHhdw6086794 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:43:39 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 31 09:43:38 2002 -0800 Received: from baker.phys.ucl.ac.uk (baker.phys.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.8.7]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0VHhb37024523 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:43:37 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahh@localhost) by baker.phys.ucl.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA08956 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 17:43:32 GMT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 17:43:32 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: Tony Harker Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Tony Harker To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine Reply Feature. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ahh@baker.phys.ucl.ac.uk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 127 Exhibit 1 below is the entry in my sent-mail folder, and Exhibit 2 is a reply from the confused recipient of the mail. As you can see, my reply was not found in the message as received. This seems to be a feature of replying to Windows users. Any ideas? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Exhibit 1 >From ahh@cmmp.phys.ucl.ac.uk Thu Jan 31 14:50:38 2002 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 14:50:38 +0000 (GMT) From: Tony Harker X-Sender: ahh@baker.phys.ucl.ac.uk Reply-To: Tony Harker To: Sam Eden Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <001301c1aa65$a2849020$82022880@phys.ucl.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/ALTERNATIVE; BOUNDARY="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C1AA65.A1CBEE80" Content-ID: Status: RO X-Status: ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C1AA65.A1CBEE80 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=iso-8859-1 Content-ID: Sam, I'll pop them in your pigeonholes this afternoon. Tony > > I believe Paulo Limao Vieira and I are down to mark 1B24. Could you let me know when to expect to receive some papers? > > Thanks > > Sam > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Exhibit 2 >From ucapspe@ucl.ac.uk Thu Jan 31 15:03:17 2002 Received: from mail-e.bcc.ac.uk (mail-e.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.25]) by baker.phys.ucl.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA11382 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:03:16 GMT Received: from hugo (actually host hugo.phys.ucl.ac.uk) by mail-e.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer); Thu, 31 Jan 2002 14:59:08 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c1aa68$759b0960$82022880@phys.ucl.ac.uk> From: Sam Eden To: Tony Harker References: Subject: Re: your mail Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:03:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C1AA68.74EB8F80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Status: RO X-Status: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C1AA68.74EB8F80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Tony I think you forgot to write anything in your reply Sam ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tony Harker=20 To: Sam Eden=20 Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 2:50 PM Subject: Re: your mail Hi I believe Paulo Limao Vieira and I are down to mark 1B24. Could you = let me know when to expect to receive some papers?=20 =20 Thanks Sam ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C1AA68.74EB8F80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Tony
 
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Sam
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Hi
 
I believe Paulo Limao Vieira and I = are down to=20 mark 1B24. Could you let me know when to expect to receive some = papers?=20
 
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Sam
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Hi
 
I believe Paulo Limao Vieira and I are = down to mark=20 1B24. Could you let me know when to expect to receive some papers?=20
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C1AA65.A1CBEE80-- __________________________________________________________________ | Dr A.H. Harker | | Reader in Condensed Matter Physics | | Director of Postgraduate Studies | | (Centre for Materials Research) /\ | | | | | | Department of Physics and Astronomy /--\ |---| |---| | | University College / \o| |o| |o | | Gower Street ---------------------- | | LONDON | | WC1E 6BT | | Tel (44) (0)207 679 3404 | | Fax (44) (0)207 679 7145 | | E-mail a.harker@ucl.ac.uk | |________________________________________________________________| From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:45:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0VJjg7i004636 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:45:42 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 31 11:45:36 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0VJjaPs010943; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:45:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0VJdJAf022212; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:39:19 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g0VJE1w6074844 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:14:01 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jan 31 11:14:00 2002 -0800 Received: from fort-point-station.mit.edu (FORT-POINT-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.76]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g0VJE0pj009128 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:14:00 -0800 Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by fort-point-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA10915; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 14:13:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA15398; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 14:13:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mit.edu (WELL.MIT.EDU [18.250.1.77]) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA21441; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 13:53:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3C5992BB.3060207@mit.edu> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 13:53:47 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jacob Morzinski To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine Reply Feature. References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Tony Harker X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Accept-Language: en-us X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 128 Tony Harker wrote: > Exhibit 1 below is the entry in my sent-mail folder, and Exhibit 2 is a > reply from the confused recipient of the mail. As you can see, my reply > was not found in the message as received. This seems to be a feature of > replying to Windows users. Any ideas? The messages are intermingled in odd ways. I can't tell if this is because of some mishap in the way you pasted the messages into the email you sent to pine-info, or if the intermingling happened at an earlier time. Currently you've got: Message_1's starting "From " Mime headers for message_1, labeling it as multipart/alternative The first boundary marker for message_1 Message_2's starting "From " Mime headers for message_2, labeling it as multipart/alternative The first boundary marker for message_2 The second boundary marker for message_2 The terminal boundary marker for message_2 The second boundary marker for message_1 (!) The terminal boundary marker for message_1 (!) I have no idea how mime boundary markers for message_1 happened to end up down in message_2. If I join the two messages you provided into a single mail file (*.eml) and try to read that file with OutlookExpress or with Mozilla, the programs display only the text/html content between the second and terminal boundary markers for message_1, completely ignoring the content between the first and second boundary markers. This means, incidentally, that OE and Mozilla display exactly the text that your correspondent saw: just the "Could you let me know when to expect to receive some papers?" part, because that's all that is present in the text/html section. -Jacob