From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 1 03:24:50 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 03:24:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id DAA27306 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 03:24:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id DAA04718; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 03:24:42 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id DAA08659; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 03:24:10 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id DAA13200 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 03:19:48 -0800 Received: from neon.transmeta.com (neon-best.transmeta.com [206.184.214.10]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id DAA06548 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 03:19:47 -0800 Received: from deepthought.transmeta.com (mailhost.transmeta.com [10.1.1.15]) by neon.transmeta.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA09124; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 03:19:15 -0800 Received: from marvin.transmeta.com (root@marvin.transmeta.com [10.1.27.210]) by deepthought.transmeta.com (8.8.8+spamcan/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA02460; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 03:19:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.transmeta.com [127.0.0.1]) by marvin.transmeta.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA25785; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 03:19:14 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 03:19:14 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jauder Ho To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Secure Pine IMAP Authentication? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Chance Reschke X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-BOFH-Subliminal-Message: Use vi not Emacs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I think Netscape does base64 encoding which means that it still sends it as cleartext across the network. --Jauder On Sat, 31 Oct 1998, Chance Reschke wrote: > Hi, > > I've been trying to eliminate clear text passwords from our network and > had hoped IMAP mail readers could help in this effort. Unfortunately, it > looks like Pine can only do IMAP "LOGIN" authentication, not the much more > secure "AUTHENTICATE" method. Is this true? (I know about using rsh - > That's not what I'm asking about). > > After looking at packet traces, it seems that the IMAP client in Netscape > Communicator uses "AUTHENTICATE LOGIN" when authenticating a user's IMAP > session with an IMAP4 server. This appears to prevent the username and > password information from traversing the network in clear text. More > packet traces reveal that Pine 3.96 appears to use "LOGIN" which passes > everything as clear text. I had a quick look through the Pine sources, > and couldn't find any reference to the more secure authentication > mechanisms. > > Am I missing something? > > Thanks, > Chance > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 1 17:03:16 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 17:03:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id RAA07197 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 17:03:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id RAA12988; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 17:03:07 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id RAA25776; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 17:02:34 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA27374 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 16:58:47 -0800 Received: from prfdec.natur.cuni.cz (prfdec.natur.cuni.cz [195.113.56.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id QAA25742 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 16:58:45 -0800 Received: (from mmokrejs@localhost) by prfdec.natur.cuni.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id BAA05359; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 01:58:41 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 01:58:39 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Martin Mokrejs To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Security problem in 4.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, I found, that pine creates these lock files in /tmp. Why world RW? ;-) -rw-rw-rw- 1 mmokrejs system 4 Nov 2 00:02 .fffffffff0e5cb9d.6c21 In those files are PID's of pine. They are NOT created when user runs pico editor. Is there any patch to this? TIA Martin Mokrejs ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 2 07:09:22 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:09:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id HAA22242 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:09:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id HAA24090; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:09:14 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id HAA16178; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:08:33 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA52352 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:05:34 -0800 Received: from prfdec.natur.cuni.cz (prfdec.natur.cuni.cz [195.113.56.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id HAA20858 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:05:30 -0800 Received: (from mmokrejs@localhost) by prfdec.natur.cuni.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id QAA15159; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:05:21 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:05:20 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Martin Mokrejs To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Security problem in 4.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, first of all, please CC your response to this thread if any. I'm not subscribed to this list any more. ;) I found, that pine creates these lock files in /tmp. Why world RW? ;-( -rw-rw-rw- 1 mmokrejs system 4 Nov 2 00:02 .fffffffff0e5cb9d.6c21 In those files are PID's of pine. They are NOT created when user runs pico editor. lsof utility also shows they are opened by pine. Is there any patch to this? Tested on Digital Unix 4.0D, jumbo patch #2. TIA Martin Mokrejs ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 3 14:58:47 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:58:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA23193 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:58:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA07789; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:58:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA15325; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:57:48 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA43862 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:54:22 -0800 Received: from neon.transmeta.com (neon-best.transmeta.com [206.184.214.10]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA27360 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:54:21 -0800 Received: from deepthought.transmeta.com (mailhost.transmeta.com [10.1.1.15]) by neon.transmeta.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA10797 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:54:20 -0800 Received: from marvin.transmeta.com (root@marvin.transmeta.com [10.1.27.210]) by deepthought.transmeta.com (8.8.8+spamcan/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02082 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:54:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.transmeta.com [127.0.0.1]) by marvin.transmeta.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA14108 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:54:19 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:54:18 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jauder Ho To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine patches MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-BOFH-Subliminal-Message: Use vi not Emacs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I seem to remember a pine patches web site somewhere. Can someone please send me the URL again? I seem to have lost it. Thanks. --Jauder ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 3 16:56:51 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:56:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id QAA22068 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:56:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id QAA09528; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:56:44 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id QAA25033; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:55:38 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA43930 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:53:39 -0800 Received: from neon.transmeta.com (neon-best.transmeta.com [206.184.214.10]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id QAA12460 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:53:38 -0800 Received: from deepthought.transmeta.com (mailhost.transmeta.com [10.1.1.15]) by neon.transmeta.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA12838 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:53:37 -0800 Received: from marvin.transmeta.com (root@marvin.transmeta.com [10.1.27.210]) by deepthought.transmeta.com (8.8.8+spamcan/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA14112 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:53:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.transmeta.com [127.0.0.1]) by marvin.transmeta.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA14705 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:53:36 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:53:34 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jauder Ho To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine sleeps MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-BOFH-Subliminal-Message: Use vi not Emacs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN My coworker has been complaining that pine sometime "goes to sleep" when he's trying to read mail. Has anyone else experienced this? His inboxes sit on an imap server with the mbx folder format. This is pine 4.05... Any ideas on this one? I have no idea why this would be happening Does anyone have an eta on when the next version of pine is due? --Jauder ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:47:01 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Trocki To: Jauder Ho Subject: pine sleeps mutherfucker I GOT IT THIS TIME::: I hit "c" to compose a message and it hung for 15 seconds or so. I got an strace of it: : calcium /htdocs/mis/support$; strace -p 18771 --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) --- sigreturn() = ? (mask now [ALRM]) time(NULL) = 910140339 sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x812a508, [], SA_RESTART}, NULL) = 0 alarm(0) = 0 sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL) = 0 write(1, "\33[26;37H\33[7m [\33[m\33[26;60"..., 41) = 41 time(NULL) = 910140339 time(NULL) = 910140339 write(1, "\33[26;37H\33[7m[>\33[m\33[26;60"..., 41) = 41 sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [ALRM], []) = 0 sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x40078ef0, [], 0}, {0x812a508, [], SA_RESTART}) = 0 time(NULL) = 910140339 alarm(3) = 0 sigsuspend([] --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) --- <... sigsuspend resumed> ) = -1 EINTR (Interrupted system call) sigreturn() = ? (mask now [ALRM]) time(NULL) = 910140342 sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x812a508, [], SA_RESTART}, NULL) = 0 alarm(0) = 0 sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL) = 0 write(1, "\33[26;37H\33[7m [\33[m\33[26;60"..., 41) = 41 time(NULL) = 910140342 time(NULL) = 910140342 write(1, "\33[26;37H\33[7m[>\33[m\33[26;60"..., 41) = 41 sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [ALRM], []) = 0 sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x40078ef0, [], 0}, {0x812a508, [], SA_RESTART}) = 0 time(NULL) = 910140342 alarm(3) = 0 sigsuspend([] --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) --- <... sigsuspend resumed> ) = -1 EINTR (Interrupted system call) sigreturn() = ? (mask now [ALRM]) time(NULL) = 910140345 sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x812a508, [], SA_RESTART}, NULL) = 0 alarm(0) = 0 sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL) = 0 write(1, "\33[26;37H\33[7m [\33[m\33[26;60"..., 41) = 41 time(NULL) = 910140345 time(NULL) = 910140345 write(1, "\33[26;37H\33[7m[>\33[m\33[26;60"..., 41) = 41 sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [ALRM], []) = 0 sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x40078ef0, [], 0}, {0x812a508, [], SA_RESTART}) = 0 time(NULL) = 910140345 alarm(3) = 0 sigsuspend([] --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) --- <... sigsuspend resumed> ) = -1 EINTR (Interrupted system call) sigreturn() = ? (mask now [ALRM]) time(NULL) = 910140348 sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x812a508, [], SA_RESTART}, NULL) = 0 alarm(0) = 0 sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL) = 0 write(1, "\33[26;37H\33[7m [\33[m\33[26;60"..., 41) = 41 time(NULL) = 910140348 time(NULL) = 910140348 write(1, "\33[26;37H\33[7m[>\33[m\33[26;60"..., 41) = 41 sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [ALRM], []) = 0 sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x40078ef0, [], 0}, {0x812a508, [], SA_RESTART}) = 0 time(NULL) = 910140348 alarm(3) = 0 sigsuspend([] --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) --- <... sigsuspend resumed> ) = -1 EINTR (Interrupted system call) sigreturn() = ? (mask now [ALRM]) time(NULL) = 910140351 sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x812a508, [], SA_RESTART}, NULL) = 0 alarm(0) = 0 sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL) = 0 write(1, "\33[26;37H\33[7m [\33[m\33[26;60"..., 41) = 41 time(NULL) = 910140351 time(NULL) = 910140351 write(1, "\33[26;37H\33[7m[>\33[m\33[26;60"..., 41) = 41 sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [ALRM], []) = 0 sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x40078ef0, [], 0}, {0x812a508, [], SA_RESTART}) = 0 time(NULL) = 910140351 alarm(3) = 0 sigsuspend([] --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) --- <... sigsuspend resumed> ) = -1 EINTR (Interrupted system call) sigreturn() = ? (mask now [ALRM]) time(NULL) = 910140354 sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x812a508, [], SA_RESTART}, NULL) = 0 alarm(0) = 0 sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL) = 0 write(1, "\33[26;37H\33[7m [\33[m\33[26;60"..., 41) = 41 time(NULL) = 910140354 ioctl(0, TIOCGWINSZ, {ws_row=28, ws_col=98, ws_xpixel=592, ws_ypixel=368}) = 0 sigaction(SIGWINCH, {0x815dcb4, [], SA_RESTART}, {0x8129eb4, [], SA_RESTART}) = 0 sigaction(SIGHUP, {0x815bd40, [], SA_RESTART}, {0x8129a1c, [], SA_RESTART}) = 0 sigaction(SIGTERM, {0x815bd40, [], SA_RESTART}, {0x8129b54, [], SA_RESTART}) = 0 sigaction(SIGTSTP, {SIG_DFL}, {SIG_IGN}) = 0 sigaction(SIGWINCH, {0x815dcb4, [], SA_RESTART}, {0x815dcb4, [], SA_RESTART}) = 0 getpid() = 18771 unlink("/home/trockij/#pico18771#") = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) write(1, "\33[27;1H\33[7m^\33[m\33[7mG\33["..., 190) = 190 write(1, "\33[28;1H\33[7m^\33[m\33[7mC\33["..., 190) = 190 ioctl(1, TIOCGWINSZ, {ws_row=28, ws_col=98, ws_xpixel=592, ws_ypixel=368}) = 0 sigaction(SIGWINCH, {0x8129eb4, [], SA_RESTART}, {0x815dcb4, [], SA_RESTART}) = 0 time(NULL) = 910140354 write(1, "\33[1;1H\33[7m PINE 4.05 COMP"..., 532) = 532 ioctl(0, TIOCGWINSZ, {ws_row=28, ws_col=98, ws_xpixel=592, ws_ypixel=368}) = 0 sigaction(SIGWINCH, {0x815dcb4, [], SA_RESTART}, {0x8129eb4, [], SA_RESTART}) = 0 sigaction(SIGHUP, {0x815bd40, [], SA_RESTART}, {0x815bd40, [], SA_RESTART}) = 0 sigaction(SIGTERM, {0x815bd40, [], SA_RESTART}, {0x815bd40, [], SA_RESTART}) = 0 sigaction(SIGTSTP, {SIG_DFL}, {SIG_DFL}) = 0 sigaction(SIGWINCH, {0x815dcb4, [], SA_RESTART}, {0x815dcb4, [], SA_RESTART}) = 0 write(1, "\33[8;1H\33[27;1H\33[7m^\33[m\33"..., 196) = 196 write(1, "\33[28;1H\33[7m^\33[m\33[7mC\33["..., 190) = 190 write(1, "\33[8;1H", 6) = 6 write(1, "\33[7;1H----- Message Text -----"..., 169) = 169 write(1, "\33[28;18H\33[7mD\33[m Del Char "..., 153) = 153 write(1, "\33[3;11H", 7) = 7 oldselect(1, [0], NULL, [0], {60, 0} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 4 04:04:52 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 04:04:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id EAA31586 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 04:04:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id EAA19944; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 04:04:42 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id EAA29314; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 04:04:16 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id EAA44714 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 04:01:04 -0800 Received: from gateway.local.net.au ([203.63.47.227]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id EAA29890 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 04:00:31 -0800 Received: from abyss.local.net.au (mpalmer@abyss.local.net.au [192.168.2.2]) by gateway.local.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA25501 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:05:27 +1100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:04:24 +1100 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Matthew Palmer To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: I've got open problems with Pine 4.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: mpalmer@abyss.local.net.au X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Sorry about the obtuse subject line. I did have a subject line of "Open failed messages - Pine 4.05", but the listproc at uwash rejected it - said it was "suspicious" - whatever that means. Any ideas about that? Anyway, that's not what I want to talk about. I'm running Pine 4.05 on a Linux 2.0.35 machine, and I can't get it to go properly anymore. By "anymore", I mean that it previously worked, then at a fairly unknown time in the recent past, it failed to work properly and hasn't since. There are two system changes which may, possibly, have caused the change. I have deleted some symlinks which I believed were redundant - mainly to do with /var/adm, /usr/adm, some /var/spool/ files (not mail, or anything like that), some XWindows links (I do not use pine in X), and a few dangling pointers. The other system change which I can determine may, possibly have caused the trouble was the addition of another host to the network. This is a part-time Linux box, used as a workstation by several members of our group. I don't see how this could have caused the problem, but I include it for completeness. I first noticed the problem when, in a listing of all files in my home dir (ls -a ~) I saw several .pine-debug? files. I understood that these files referred to error conditions, and so I checked them out. Imagine my surprise when I found the following in them: ---[START .pine-debug1]--- Debug output of the Pine program (debug=2 debug_imap=0). Version 4.05 Sun Oct 25 15:54:19 1998 reading_pinerc "/usr/lib/pine.conf" Open failed: No such file or directory reading_pinerc "/home/mpalmer/.pinerc" Read 12449 characters: read_pinerc: pinerc_written = 909289906 reading_pinerc "/usr/lib/pine.conf.fixed" Open failed: No such file or directory [remainder removed for brevity] ---[END .pine-debug1]--- It was this Open failed business which rattled me. I checked to ensure that the files which were unopened did still in fact exist - as they do. I tested opening them with a test program (along the lines of main() {int fd; fd = open("/usr/lib/pine/pine.conf", O_RDONLY); if (fd < 0) perror("testprog"); else printf("all's well"); close(fd)}) but that program indicated that there was no problem opening the file. Along with this, several options which previously worked no longer operate correctly. I am referring specifically to the habit of using the TAB key to go to the next folder with unread messages. I cannot remember which option to use, but I cannot find the correct option, and I cannot make this option work. Can anyone suggest a solution to the problem? I have checked the Pine Info Center at UWash, but it has no suggestions. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- #include Matthew Palmer | Technophile, programmer, and old style hacker. mpalmer@sia.net.au | E-mail me for my PGP key. ... That was ZEN -- this is TAO -!- NostalgiaMail 1.0g/Pine 4.05 ! Origin: Ahh... how I yearn for ages past... (3:712/844) ... I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing! -!- NostalgiaMail 1.0g/Pine 4.05 ! Origin: Ahh... how I yearn for ages past... (3:712/844) ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 4 07:52:00 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 07:52:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id HAA07727 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 07:51:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id HAA24939; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 07:51:53 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id HAA18141; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 07:51:08 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA38806 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 07:48:30 -0800 Received: from mach2.gs.com (mach2.gs.com [199.29.255.35]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id HAA13595 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 07:48:30 -0800 Received: from postoffice2.gs.com (postoffice2.gs.com [138.8.103.10]) by mach2.gs.com (8.9.1a/8.9.0/mach2) with ESMTP id KAA29099 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:48:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from nbsadsn01.fi.gs.com (nbsadsn01.fi.gs.com [138.8.36.200]) by postoffice2.gs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3/SunOS 8.7.5 Postoffice) with ESMTP id KAA02937 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:47:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from nbsadc111.fi.gs.com (nbsadc111.fi.gs.com [138.8.36.171]) by nbsadsn01.fi.gs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3/Solaris 8.7.5 Mailhub) with ESMTP id KAA00727 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:47:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by nbsadc111.fi.gs.com (8.8.5) id KAA07159; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:47:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:47:49 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Kenneth Topp To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: I also have open problems with Pine 4.05 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: toppk@nbsadc111.fi.gs.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Solaris 2.6 pine 4.05 w/ ldap. when I use imap or /var/mail/inbox there is a race condition when I'm clearing out the inbox and there is new mail delivered, the .pine-debug keeps repeating "There is 1 new message". and pine hangs. Do I have any options? Has anyone else seen this? Thanks, kenneth.topp@gs.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 5 06:44:30 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:44:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id GAA23163 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:44:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id GAA20934; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:44:19 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id GAA11576; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:43:45 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA15092 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:40:00 -0800 Received: from admin.tavsnet.com (admin.tavsnet.com [207.238.67.52]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id GAA25185 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:39:59 -0800 Received: from scorpio ([10.75.4.189]) by admin.tavsnet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA16709 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:39:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <003a01be08c9$c6264c80$bd044b0a@scorpio.tavsnet.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:37:11 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ameet Chaubal" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Can not print MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi all I am having problem printing from pine when I telnet to a host using a terminal emulation software. If I use attached-to-ansi option of the printer set up the process of printing completes without a hitch but nothing comes out of the printer. Thanks for the help Ameet ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 5 07:07:14 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:07:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id HAA16832 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:07:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id HAA24340; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:07:06 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id HAA19334; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:06:29 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA51340 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:04:04 -0800 Received: from helix.mgh.harvard.edu (helix.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.108.14]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with SMTP id HAA24552 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:04:03 -0800 Received: from localhost by helix.mgh.harvard.edu (5.65v4.0/1.1.10.5/02Feb97-1116AM) id AA04204; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:03:49 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:03:48 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Dennis Gurgul To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Can not print In-Reply-To: <003a01be08c9$c6264c80$bd044b0a@scorpio.tavsnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ameet Chaubal X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum , Jon Martinson X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I find that the only telnet software that consistently works with the Y command is SmartTerm. I can't get any other telnet connection (including the dos shell in W-95) to work with Y. Dennis J. Gurgul Helix System Management 617.724.3169 On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Ameet Chaubal wrote: > Hi all > I am having problem printing from pine when I telnet to a host using a > terminal emulation software. > If I use attached-to-ansi option of the printer set up the process of > printing completes without > a hitch but nothing comes out of the printer. > > Thanks for the help > > Ameet > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 5 09:01:23 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:01:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id JAA15106 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:01:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id JAA27275; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:01:15 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id JAA16238; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:00:31 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA17286 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:58:01 -0800 Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id IAA01137 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:58:00 -0800 Received: from Law.USC.EDU (law.usc.edu [128.125.42.6]) by usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id IAA12237 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:58:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from faculty.Law.USC.EDU by Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03919; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:02:43 PST Received: from l2122.usc.edu by faculty.Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17320; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:08:00 PST Message-Id: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:56:12 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robert Larmon To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Can not print In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: rlarmon@faculty-law.usc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN We use NetTerm with Win3.x/Win95/Win98 and don't experience any problems. They can be found at http://Starbase.NeoSoft.COM/~zkrr01/. We also use PC-Pine 4.05, which works pretty well too. Robert ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ` Robert Larmon ` ` PC Systems Analyst ` ` USC Law School Computing Services ` ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Dennis Gurgul wrote: > > I find that the only telnet software that consistently works with the Y > command is SmartTerm. I can't get any other telnet connection (including > the dos shell in W-95) to work with Y. > > Dennis J. Gurgul > Helix System Management > 617.724.3169 > > On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Ameet Chaubal wrote: > > > Hi all > > I am having problem printing from pine when I telnet to a host using a > > terminal emulation software. > > If I use attached-to-ansi option of the printer set up the process of > > printing completes without > > a hitch but nothing comes out of the printer. > > > > Thanks for the help > > > > Ameet > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 5 09:27:01 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:27:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id JAA25391 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:26:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id JAA28118; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:26:53 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id JAA04032; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:26:05 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA24420 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:23:58 -0800 Received: from nimbus.anzio.com (ras@nimbus.anzio.com [204.201.253.34]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id JAA05029 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:23:57 -0800 Received: from localhost (ras@localhost) by nimbus.anzio.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA08357; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:07:41 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:07:40 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Bob Rasmussen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Can not print In-Reply-To: <003a01be08c9$c6264c80$bd044b0a@scorpio.tavsnet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ameet Chaubal X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Passthrough print does indeed vary a great deal between telnet clients. The telnet.exe that comes with Windows does not do it at all. Anzio, available as below, handles it fine. Regards, ....Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: ras@anzio.com company e-mail: rsi@anzio.com or sales@anzio.com or support@anzio.com ftp://ftp.anzio.com voice: 503-624-0360 http://www.anzio.com fax: 503-624-0760 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 5 11:29:08 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:29:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id LAA31449 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:29:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id LAA01890; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:28:56 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id LAA11984; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:27:45 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA36288 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:25:39 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id LAA30537 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:25:39 -0800 Received: from crypt.yashy.ottawa.on.ca (cpu1671.adsl.bellglobal.com [206.47.27.152]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id LAA29094 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:25:35 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crypt.yashy.ottawa.on.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA18818 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:31:48 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:31:47 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: yashy@yashy.ottawa.on.ca Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Yasholomew Yashinski To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Compilation Errors. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm not sure if this is directly Pine related, or a problem on my end, however perhaps you can help. I'm trying to compile Pine 4.05 on a linux platform using "build lnx" Here is an excerpt from the tail: ____ /usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open -ltermcap: No such file or directory make: *** [pine] Error 1 Links to executables are in bin directory: size: bin/pine: No such file or directory text data bss dec hex filename 452613 22196 2192 477001 74749 bin/mtest 480304 22312 9612 512228 7d0e4 bin/imapd size: bin/pico: No such file or directory size: bin/pilot: No such file or directory Done ______ For some reason it only compiled mtest and imapd, not pine/pico, which are the two I really want upgraded :) Tia. "One world, one web, one program" - Microsoft Promo ad. "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler http://www.linux.org => Where do you want to go tomorrow? Recently Updated => http://euphoria.yashy.ottawa.on.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 5 12:16:38 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:16:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id MAA02304 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:16:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id MAA00818; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:16:18 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id MAA02410; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:14:51 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA22292 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:12:51 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with SMTP id MAA24134 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:12:50 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de (131.220.244.34,2366) by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM/VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 05 Nov 98 21:12:35 MEZ Received: (from robin@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA13597; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:13:19 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 05 Nov 1998 21:13:17 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Compilation Errors. In-Reply-To: Yasholomew Yashinski's message of "Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:31:47 -0500 (EST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: yashy@yashy.ottawa.on.ca X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN * Yasholomew Yashinski writes: > I'm not sure if this is directly Pine related, or a problem on my > end, however perhaps you can help. I'm trying to compile Pine 4.05 > on a linux platform using "build lnx" Here is an excerpt from the > tail: ____ /usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open -ltermcap: No such > file or directory make: *** [pine] Error 1 SuSE? One fscked up distrib... Robin -- The One and Only Robin S. Socha Cc: me and I'll kill -9 you From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 5 13:16:33 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:16:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA03104 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:16:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA05113; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:16:21 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id NAA01924; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:15:23 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA20694 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:13:13 -0800 Received: from neon.transmeta.com (neon-best.transmeta.com [206.184.214.10]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA11906 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:13:12 -0800 Received: from deepthought.transmeta.com (mailhost.transmeta.com [10.1.1.15]) by neon.transmeta.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA12083 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:13:12 -0800 Received: from marvin.transmeta.com (root@marvin.transmeta.com [10.1.27.210]) by deepthought.transmeta.com (8.8.8+spamcan/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA19360 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:13:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.transmeta.com [127.0.0.1]) by marvin.transmeta.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA24438 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:13:10 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:13:10 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jauder Ho To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: feature request MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-BOFH-Subliminal-Message: Use vi not Emacs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN When I get an attachment in email and I am trying to save it in another directory, I can use the brower view to navigate to a different dir but it won't give me the option of saving in that directory directly with the file name as an option. What I would like would be a "Save Here" option after I have navigated to that dir via the browser. --Jauder ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 5 14:48:14 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:48:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA03354 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:48:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA08101; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:48:06 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA16285; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:47:22 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA61250 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:45:29 -0800 Received: from sass165.sandia.gov (mailgate.sandia.gov [132.175.109.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA27652 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:45:28 -0800 Received: from sasg829.sandia.gov (sasg829.sandia.gov [134.253.226.190]) by sass165.sandia.gov (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA11175 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:45:24 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:45:21 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Daniel Sands To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Compilation Errors. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Yasholomew Yashinski wrote: > > I'm not sure if this is directly Pine related, or a problem on my end, > however perhaps you can help. > I'm trying to compile Pine 4.05 on a linux platform using "build lnx" > Here is an excerpt from the tail: > ____ > /usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open -ltermcap: No such file or directory > make: *** [pine] Error 1 Apparently, you don't have /usr/lib/libtermcap.a Do you have libterminfo? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 5 15:38:58 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:38:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id PAA05116 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:38:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id PAA07105; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:38:49 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id PAA18782; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:37:01 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA51382 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:34:45 -0800 Received: from mg1.rockymtn.net (mailserv.rockymtn.net [166.93.205.11]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id PAA02763 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:34:44 -0800 Received: from rainbow.rmi.net (rainbow [166.93.8.14]) by mg1.rockymtn.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA15937 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:34:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from nerdherd.evilpeople.net (manuka@nerdherd.evilpeople.net [166.93.72.131]) by rainbow.rmi.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA15975 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:34:39 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:34:46 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ian Hall-Beyer To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Compilation Errors. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: manuka@tuvok.geekpad.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Daniel Sands wrote: > > /usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open -ltermcap: No such file or directory > > make: *** [pine] Error 1 > Apparently, you don't have /usr/lib/libtermcap.a Do you have libterminfo? Also, a problem I've encountered under linux while building pine involves the crypt() function, which is not actually referenced anywhere in the make or header files. There are 4 makefiles that need to have -lcrypt added to them, and the os_lnx.h file needs to have an include added. This is under redhat anyway, I would expect it is probably a glibc-related issue, but easily fixable. If anyone else has had this problem, let me know, I'll send you a patch I made. Note to the pine developers, if you're listening, it would be nice to have this fixed! -Ian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 5 15:50:08 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:50:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id PAA06221 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:50:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id PAA10088; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:49:58 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id PAA19390; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:48:31 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA61710 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:46:37 -0800 Received: from sass165.sandia.gov (mailgate.sandia.gov [132.175.109.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id PAA04409 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:46:37 -0800 Received: from sasg829.sandia.gov (sasg829.sandia.gov [134.253.226.190]) by sass165.sandia.gov (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA20686 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:46:32 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <77349FC5DC1CD211BAD900805FA7241A02769217-100000@es01snlnt.sandia.gov> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:45:47 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Daniel Sands To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Compilation Errors. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Ian Hall-Beyer wrote: > On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Daniel Sands wrote: > > > > /usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open -ltermcap: No such file or directory > > > make: *** [pine] Error 1 > > > Apparently, you don't have /usr/lib/libtermcap.a Do you have libterminfo? > > Also, a problem I've encountered under linux while building pine involves > the crypt() function, which is not actually referenced anywhere in the > make or header files. There are 4 makefiles that need to have -lcrypt > added to them, and the os_lnx.h file needs to have an include added. This > is under redhat anyway, I would expect it is probably a glibc-related > issue, but easily fixable. If anyone else has had this problem, let me > know, I'll send you a patch I made. Yes. Glibc has the crypto library separated from its normal distribution due to export issues. So if crypto functions are being used, they should be referenced for glibc versions. Perhaps the build script should check to see if the -lcrypt is necessary. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 5 17:08:51 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:08:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id RAA04906 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:08:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id RAA09712; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:08:44 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id RAA29372; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:08:04 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA38792 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:06:00 -0800 Received: from mg1.rockymtn.net (mailserv.rockymtn.net [166.93.205.11]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id RAA01689 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:06:00 -0800 Received: from rainbow.rmi.net (rainbow [166.93.8.14]) by mg1.rockymtn.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA21573 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:05:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from nerdherd.evilpeople.net (manuka@nerdherd.evilpeople.net [166.93.72.131]) by rainbow.rmi.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA21960 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:05:54 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:06:00 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ian Hall-Beyer To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Compilation Errors. In-Reply-To: <77349FC5DC1CD211BAD900805FA7241A02769217-100000@es01snlnt.sandia.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: manuka@tuvok.geekpad.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Daniel Sands wrote: > Yes. Glibc has the crypto library separated from its normal distribution due > to export issues. So if crypto functions are being used, they should be > referenced for glibc versions. Perhaps the build script should check to see > if the -lcrypt is necessary. I suspected as much. Might want to change the build script and appropriate header/make files to build libc or glibc (of course, this now makes for 4 different linux options - maybe just detecting libc/glibc would be better) -Ian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 6 01:08:24 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 01:08:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id BAA04504 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 01:08:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id BAA15959; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 01:08:16 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id BAA07533; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 01:07:48 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA28454 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 01:04:43 -0800 Received: from binky.de.uu.net (binky.de.uu.net [192.76.144.28]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id BAA18406 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 01:04:42 -0800 Received: from gate1.ife-le.de (gate1.ife-le.de [194.115.104.202]:1358) by binky.de.uu.net with ESMTP (5.65+:003/3.0.2) id KAA28992; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:04:12 +0100 (MET) Received: by gate1.ife-le.de with esmtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zbhoV-0006Sc-00; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:04:15 +0100 Received: with local-esmtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zbhoT-0003JN-01; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:04:13 +0100 Message-Id: <0zbhoV-0006Sc-00@ife-le.de> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:04:12 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rudolf Kompf To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Compilation Errors. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Yasholomew Yashinski X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I don't know the reason but I believe that with recent Linux versions one have to try build sl5 or build sl4 On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Yasholomew Yashinski wrote: -> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:31:47 -0500 (EST) -> From: Yasholomew Yashinski -> To: Pine Discussion Forum -> Subject: Compilation Errors. -> -> -> I'm not sure if this is directly Pine related, or a problem on my end, -> however perhaps you can help. -> I'm trying to compile Pine 4.05 on a linux platform using "build lnx" -> Here is an excerpt from the tail: -> ____ -> /usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open -ltermcap: No such file or directory -> make: *** [pine] Error 1 -> -> Links to executables are in bin directory: -> size: bin/pine: No such file or directory -> text data bss dec hex filename -> 452613 22196 2192 477001 74749 bin/mtest -> 480304 22312 9612 512228 7d0e4 bin/imapd -> size: bin/pico: No such file or directory -> size: bin/pilot: No such file or directory -> Done -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 6 12:37:37 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:37:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id MAA24988 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:37:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id MAA29487; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:37:24 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id MAA25951; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:35:58 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA32512 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:31:41 -0800 Received: from elwood.cais.com (elwood.cais.com [199.0.216.215]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id MAA14060 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:31:24 -0800 Received: from sonja (zander.cais.com [207.176.69.220]) by elwood.cais.com (8.9.1/Elwood) with SMTP id PAA17421 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:31:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981106153042.00a10e90@172.27.72.2> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 15:30:42 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Karl Zander To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PINE with LDAP for HP-UX 10.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: zander@172.27.72.2 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Might the binaries for HP-UX 10.2 on the FTP site for PINE already contain the LDAP support? If not, I will have to complie a build with LDAP support correct? I am new to that process. Where can I find documentation on how to do it? I have looked at the FAQ and archieves on the PINE site. I need more background than I found there. Karl Zander Communication Partners International em: kzander@commpartners.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:38:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA25150 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:38:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA04249; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:38:24 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id NAA29389; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:37:17 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA45296 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:35:44 -0800 Received: from xmission.xmission.com (root@xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA28393 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:35:43 -0800 Received: from wencor.com (root@wencor.com [207.135.128.153]) by xmission.xmission.com (8.8.8/8.7.5) with ESMTP id OAA06263 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:35:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from marvin.wencor.com (marvin.wencor.com [172.16.59.1]) by wencor.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id OAA24681 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:34:39 -0700 Received: from localhost by marvin.wencor.com (8.6.14/200.17.1.3) id OAA23118; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:32:49 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:32:49 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Chris Wood To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC-Pine questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Why doesn't PC-Pine have all of the regular commands that unix pine has? I really miss Bounce, Select, Headers, etc. -=-=-=-=-=- Chris Wood Kitco, Inc. 801-489-2097 Wencor West, Inc. [cwood@wencor.com] Durham Aircraft Services -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:19:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id PAA27654 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:19:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id PAA04317; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:19:24 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id PAA04825; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:18:30 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA39964 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:16:06 -0800 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (mailhost1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id PAA27986 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:16:06 -0800 Received: from D-128-95-135-197.dhcp.washington.edu (D-128-95-135-197.dhcp.washington.edu [128.95.135.197]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id PAA27569; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:15:59 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:15:55 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: kanelson@cac.washington.edu Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Kris Nelson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine questions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Chris Wood X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: kanelson@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Chris Wood wrote: > Why doesn't PC-Pine have all of the regular commands that unix pine has? > I really miss Bounce, Select, Headers, etc. PC-Pine *does* have these commands. Did you check your feature-list? Try going to Setup/Config and checking what's been enabled. Regards, Kris -- Kristopher Nelson -- kanelson@cac.washington.edu University of Washington -- Computing & Communications From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:35:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id SAA30785 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:34:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id SAA08439; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:34:53 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id SAA17572; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:34:16 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA37264 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:32:05 -0800 Received: from continuum.cm.nu (shane@a1a90191.sympatico.bconnected.net [209.53.18.105]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id SAA15515 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:32:04 -0800 Received: from localhost (shane@localhost) by continuum.cm.nu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA24611; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:31:39 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:31:31 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shane Wegner To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Return Receipt In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Info Mailing List X-Cc: John Cunniff X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I've actually wanted this feature for quite some time but there must be a reason why it's not there. I think the rr idea is great but it shouldn't need to use an external server. It should just be a header. Pine-info people would you mind taking a look at this and letting me know what you think of implementing this. It'd deffinately be an idea but would most certainly have to be a standard that other email programs follow. Is there an RFC on the topic? - -- Shane Wegner: shane@cm.nu Tel: 604-930-0530 Sysadmin, Continuum Systems: http://www.cm.nu Personal website: http://www.cm.nu/~shane Celine Dion Fan site: http://www.celine.nu/ PGP key: http://www.cm.nu/~shane/pgp.txt ICQ UIN: 15706546 On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, John Cunniff wrote: > shane, > > Hello, Shane! Would you pass my suggestion to PINE Developer team if you > don't know what to suggest me? > > Hello, my name is John Cunniff, deaf and legally blind from Melrose, MA. > > Here is my suggestion for PINE Developer Team that PINE should add an > option in the configuration that I looked all through but found nothing in > there! It is a "Return Receipt". I found an option called is > "Delivery-notification-enabled" (I think) that works if the mail is get > delivered successfully or not successfully into a receipient's mailbox, > but does NOT generate a Return Receipt after a Receipient has read my > message. This is called a DSN. > > I have helped my girlfriend to upggrade her Window mail client called > Netscape Communicator 4.5 which featured a "Return Receipt". Her mail > client program connects to a server called "MDN" which "generates" a > return receipt on a receipient's message which has been read or not to > read. for example, today I sent an E-Mail to a state worker (Deaf and > usher-syndrome friend) through my mail program called "Microsoft Exchange" > and I waited for about 45 minutes later, my friend read my E-Mail and his > e-Mail client sent a Return Receipt notified me that my message has been > read. :) I like to use a Return Rceipt for an important or urgent > information that need to be read. for example, if I want to send an e-mail > to a director of a non-profit organization regarding meetings. I must usea > return receipt and I will know if my director has or has not read my > E-Mail. > > Now, here is what I would like to see PINE with future release with a > "Return Receipt" since PINE 4.05 does not have that feature yet. > > I also am worried that I don't know if UNIX handles MDN server like > Netscape, MS Exchange and Eudora does, if that works, that would be great > for PINE to get a new feature added. > > I would very much appreciated for your response to my inquiry. You may > reach me privately since I am asking my sysadmin to forward this to an > appropriate person or group. You can E-Mail me at John Cunniff > if you wish. And thank you for your understanding. Have a > nice weekend. Goodbye for now. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBNkOxBcrVq/2G1RScEQJ17QCdHHBH+k8LtU58e7olNA/vz382IVEAoMY5 1x00NPZ2PHm8z8cj0jNf613E =RDTp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 11:26:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id LAA09201 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 11:26:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id LAA19879; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 11:25:56 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id LAA13390; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 11:25:24 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA52982 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 11:23:07 -0800 Received: from crypt.yashy.ottawa.on.ca (cpu1671.adsl.bellglobal.com [206.47.27.152]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id LAA04734 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 11:23:06 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crypt.yashy.ottawa.on.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA23856 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 14:29:48 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 14:29:47 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: yashy@yashy.ottawa.on.ca Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Yasholomew Yashinski To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Compilation Problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 5 Nov 1998, Robin S. Socha wrote: > * Yasholomew Yashinski writes: > > > I'm not sure if this is directly Pine related, or a problem on my > > end, however perhaps you can help. I'm trying to compile Pine 4.05 > > on a linux platform using "build lnx" Here is an excerpt from the > > tail: ____ /usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open -ltermcap: No such > > file or directory make: *** [pine] Error 1 > > SuSE? One fscked up > distrib... Okay, saw this: Use -lncurses, if libncurses doesn't work for you use the option -L/usr/lib/termcap -ltermcap and if libcurses is required too -L/usr/lib/curses -lcurses may help. The termcap-package needs to be installed. However I'm not familiar with any of this. I have since tried "build -ln curses lnx" "build -L/usr/lib/termcap -ltermcap lnx" "build L/usr/lib/curses -lcurses lnx" without the quotes of course, and no luck. I do have a SuSE box, and am stuck with Pine3.96 I guess... Do you think it would be possible, when in the index of folders, Where do you want to go tomorrow? Recently Updated => http://euphoria.yashy.ottawa.on.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:14:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id KAA02215 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:14:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id KAA28815; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:14:06 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id KAA00133; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:12:06 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA33134 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:08:51 -0800 Received: from mailhost3.u.washington.edu (mailhost3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id KAA22988 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:08:51 -0800 Received: from D-128-95-135-197.dhcp.washington.edu (D-128-95-135-197.dhcp.washington.edu [128.95.135.197]) by mailhost3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id KAA32386; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:08:49 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:08:51 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: kanelson@cac.washington.edu Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Kris Nelson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Return Receipt In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Shane Wegner X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: kanelson@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Shane, You might want to read FAQ #3.2: Can I get a "return-receipt" when sending a message with Pine? The Pine FAQ is available at: http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq Regards, Kris -- Kristopher Nelson -- kanelson@cac.washington.edu University of Washington -- Computing & Communications On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Shane Wegner wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > I've actually wanted this feature for quite some time but there must be a > reason why it's not there. I think the rr idea is great but it shouldn't > need to use an external server. It should just be a header. > > Pine-info people would you mind taking a look at this and letting me know > what you think of implementing this. It'd deffinately be an idea but > would most certainly have to be a standard that other email programs > follow. Is there an RFC on the topic? > > - -- > Shane Wegner: shane@cm.nu > Tel: 604-930-0530 > Sysadmin, Continuum Systems: http://www.cm.nu > Personal website: http://www.cm.nu/~shane > Celine Dion Fan site: http://www.celine.nu/ > PGP key: http://www.cm.nu/~shane/pgp.txt > ICQ UIN: 15706546 > > On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, John Cunniff wrote: > > > shane, > > > > Hello, Shane! Would you pass my suggestion to PINE Developer team if you > > don't know what to suggest me? > > > > Hello, my name is John Cunniff, deaf and legally blind from Melrose, MA. > > > > Here is my suggestion for PINE Developer Team that PINE should add an > > option in the configuration that I looked all through but found nothing in > > there! It is a "Return Receipt". I found an option called is > > "Delivery-notification-enabled" (I think) that works if the mail is get > > delivered successfully or not successfully into a receipient's mailbox, > > but does NOT generate a Return Receipt after a Receipient has read my > > message. This is called a DSN. > > > > I have helped my girlfriend to upggrade her Window mail client called > > Netscape Communicator 4.5 which featured a "Return Receipt". Her mail > > client program connects to a server called "MDN" which "generates" a > > return receipt on a receipient's message which has been read or not to > > read. for example, today I sent an E-Mail to a state worker (Deaf and > > usher-syndrome friend) through my mail program called "Microsoft Exchange" > > and I waited for about 45 minutes later, my friend read my E-Mail and his > > e-Mail client sent a Return Receipt notified me that my message has been > > read. :) I like to use a Return Rceipt for an important or urgent > > information that need to be read. for example, if I want to send an e-mail > > to a director of a non-profit organization regarding meetings. I must usea > > return receipt and I will know if my director has or has not read my > > E-Mail. > > > > Now, here is what I would like to see PINE with future release with a > > "Return Receipt" since PINE 4.05 does not have that feature yet. > > > > I also am worried that I don't know if UNIX handles MDN server like > > Netscape, MS Exchange and Eudora does, if that works, that would be great > > for PINE to get a new feature added. > > > > I would very much appreciated for your response to my inquiry. You may > > reach me privately since I am asking my sysadmin to forward this to an > > appropriate person or group. You can E-Mail me at John Cunniff > > if you wish. And thank you for your understanding. Have a > > nice weekend. Goodbye for now. > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 > Charset: noconv > > iQA/AwUBNkOxBcrVq/2G1RScEQJ17QCdHHBH+k8LtU58e7olNA/vz382IVEAoMY5 > 1x00NPZ2PHm8z8cj0jNf613E > =RDTp > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:40:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA13160 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:39:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA03157; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:39:52 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA23836; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:38:39 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA42334 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:35:46 -0800 Received: from xmission.xmission.com (root@xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA18067 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:35:45 -0800 Received: from wencor.com (root@wencor.com [207.135.128.153]) by xmission.xmission.com (8.8.8/8.7.5) with ESMTP id PAA05770 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:35:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from marvin.wencor.com (marvin.wencor.com [172.16.59.1]) by wencor.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id PAA04544 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:35:15 -0700 Received: from localhost by marvin.wencor.com (8.6.14/200.17.1.3) id PAA01319; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:33:27 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:33:27 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Chris Wood To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Compilation Problems In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 7 Nov 1998, Yasholomew Yashinski wrote: > > > > I'm not sure if this is directly Pine related, or a problem on my > > > end, however perhaps you can help. I'm trying to compile Pine 4.05 > > > on a linux platform using "build lnx" Here is an excerpt from the > > > tail: ____ /usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open -ltermcap: No such > > > file or directory make: *** [pine] Error 1 I'm having this exact same problem with Debian 2.x (slink). Any ideas anyone? -=-=-=-=-=- Chris Wood Kitco, Inc. 801-489-2097 Wencor West, Inc. [cwood@wencor.com] Durham Aircraft Services -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:31:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id PAA16744 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:31:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id PAA04740; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:31:40 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id PAA06804; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:30:21 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA39256 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:28:24 -0800 Received: from bbaer.muenster.de (root@bbaer.muenster.de [195.202.32.20]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id PAA25889 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:28:21 -0800 Received: from pmurmel (mueamd-wan216.citykom.de [195.202.35.216]) by bbaer.muenster.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA27549; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 23:54:49 +0100 Message-Id: <199811092254.XAA27549@bbaer.muenster.de> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 23:55:04 +0100 Reply-To: Peter Berlau Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Peter Berlau" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Compilation Problems In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum , Chris Wood X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Date sent: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:33:27 -0700 (MST) From: Chris Wood To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Compilation Problems Originally to: Pine Discussion Forum > On Sat, 7 Nov 1998, Yasholomew Yashinski wrote: > > > > > > > I'm not sure if this is directly Pine related, or a problem on my > > > > end, however perhaps you can help. I'm trying to compile Pine 4.05 > > > > on a linux platform using "build lnx" Here is an excerpt from the > > > > tail: ____ /usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open -ltermcap: No such > > > > file or directory make: *** [pine] Error 1 > You have to change the -ltermcap in -lncurses in the pine and pico directory than is should work fine Wish You All The Very Best Peter From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:22:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id AAA23803 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:22:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id AAA17741; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:22:06 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id AAA20077; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:21:27 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id AAA47520 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:19:01 -0800 Received: from crypt.yashy.ottawa.on.ca (cpu1671.adsl.bellglobal.com [206.47.27.152]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id AAA19158 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:19:00 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crypt.yashy.ottawa.on.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA30304 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 03:26:17 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 03:26:16 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: yashy@yashy.ottawa.on.ca Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Yasholomew Yashinski To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Compilation Problems - Fixed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Once I manually edited Makefile.lnx in both /pico and /pine it compiled flawlessly, thannks to those that helped. I noticed that some URLS can be "clicked" and some can't. As well, the biggest complaint I could have for Pine is to to notify the user of how many emails in each folder, and how many NEW. eg: INBOX 5/3 Pine-List 43/40 From-Work 10/5 etc. Currently mu users and I find ourselves checking all our folders manually. This can get tedious if you have alot of folders. I must send out a thank-you to the best email client I've used to date. (Not to mention I don't know a Linux user that hasn't used Pico). "One world, one web, one program" - Microsoft Promo ad. "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler http://www.linux.org => Where do you want to go tomorrow? Recently Updated => http://euphoria.yashy.ottawa.on.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:00:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id HAA31540 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:00:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id HAA18818; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:00:35 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id GAA27134; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 06:58:59 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA47078 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 06:56:03 -0800 Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id GAA14123 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 06:56:02 -0800 Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust109.tnt16.atl2.da.uu.net [153.34.26.109]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27945 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 06:56:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <36485378.AA9B862@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:53:44 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jimmy Miller Jr To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Compiler Problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: PINE-INFO Washington University X-Accept-Language: en X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Trying to install Pine4.02 on a Unisys U6000 running System V Release 4 Version 2 ( Unisys Version 1.3) Operating System and having trouble compiling. I have pasted the output from the build of Pine below. Any information on what to do to fix it or where to go from here would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jimmy Miller Making Pine. make CC=cc -f makefile.sv4 rm -f os.h ln -s osdep/os-sv4.h os.h ./cmplhlp2.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.h cc -g -DDEBUG -Dconst= -DSV4 -DSYSTYPE=\"SV4\" -DMOUSE -c addrbook.c "./../pico/headers.h", line 47: warning: macro redefined: signal "addrbook.c", line 1603: warning: semantics of "<" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "addrbook.c", line 3624: warning: semantics of "<" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "addrbook.c", line 3624: warning: semantics of "<" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "addrbook.c", line 3624: warning: semantics of "<" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "addrbook.c", line 3662: warning: semantics of "<" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast cc -g -DDEBUG -Dconst= -DSV4 -DSYSTYPE=\"SV4\" -DMOUSE -c adrbkcmd.c "./../pico/headers.h", line 47: warning: macro redefined: signal "adrbkcmd.c", line 4382: warning: argument is incompatible with prototype: arg #4 cc -g -DDEBUG -Dconst= -DSV4 -DSYSTYPE=\"SV4\" -DMOUSE -c adrbklib.c "./../pico/headers.h", line 47: warning: macro redefined: signal "adrbklib.c", line 8107: warning: argument is incompatible with prototype: arg #4 "adrbklib.c", line 8179: warning: argument is incompatible with prototype: arg #4 cc -g -DDEBUG -Dconst= -DSV4 -DSYSTYPE=\"SV4\" -DMOUSE -c args.c "./../pico/headers.h", line 47: warning: macro redefined: signal cc -g -DDEBUG -Dconst= -DSV4 -DSYSTYPE=\"SV4\" -DMOUSE -c bldaddr.c "./../pico/headers.h", line 47: warning: macro redefined: signal "bldaddr.c", line 3884: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast cc -g -DDEBUG -Dconst= -DSV4 -DSYSTYPE=\"SV4\" -DMOUSE -c context.c "./../pico/headers.h", line 47: warning: macro redefined: signal cc -g -DDEBUG -Dconst= -DSV4 -DSYSTYPE=\"SV4\" -DMOUSE -c filter.c "./../pico/headers.h", line 47: warning: macro redefined: signal cc -g -DDEBUG -Dconst= -DSV4 -DSYSTYPE=\"SV4\" -DMOUSE -c folder.c "./../pico/headers.h", line 47: warning: macro redefined: signal "folder.c", line 1902: warning: semantics of "<" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "folder.c", line 1951: warning: semantics of "<" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "folder.c", line 3191: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "folder.c", line 3315: warning: semantics of "<" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "folder.c", line 3398: warning: semantics of "<" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "folder.c", line 3400: warning: semantics of ">=" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "folder.c", line 4577: warning: semantics of "<" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "folder.c", line 5404: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast cc -g -DDEBUG -Dconst= -DSV4 -DSYSTYPE=\"SV4\" -DMOUSE -c help.c "./../pico/headers.h", line 47: warning: macro redefined: signal ./cmplhelp.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.c cc -g -DDEBUG -Dconst= -DSV4 -DSYSTYPE=\"SV4\" -DMOUSE -c helptext.c "./../pico/headers.h", line 47: warning: macro redefined: signal /var/tmp/ctm2AAAa001Ws:117308:cannot allocate 40000 bytes: Not enough space /var/tmp/ctm2AAAa001Ws:117308:cannot recover from previous error *** Error code 1 (bu21) make: fatal error. Links to executables are in bin directory: i386size: bin/pine: cannot open bin/mtest: 270249 + 218104 + 7344 = 495697 bin/imapd: 294001 + 222660 + 14604 = 531265 bin/pico: 132794 + 30352 + 8092 = 171238 bin/pilot: 131866 + 29880 + 8092 = 169838 Done ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:20:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id IAA29626 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:20:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id IAA24490; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:20:45 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA11739; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:19:12 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA12242 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:15:59 -0800 Received: from sass165.sandia.gov (mailgate.sandia.gov [132.175.109.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id IAA11545 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:15:58 -0800 Received: from sasg829.sandia.gov (sasg829.sandia.gov [134.253.226.190]) by sass165.sandia.gov (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA26701 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:15:55 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:15:49 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Daniel Sands To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PINE with LDAP for HP-UX 10.2 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981106153042.00a10e90@172.27.72.2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Karl Zander wrote: > Might the binaries for HP-UX 10.2 on the FTP site for > PINE already contain the LDAP support? > > If not, I will have to complie a build with LDAP support > correct? I am new to that process. Where can I find > documentation on how to do it? I have looked at the FAQ > and archieves on the PINE site. I need more background > than I found there. Try doc/tech-notes.txt in the source tree. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:41:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id IAA00410 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:41:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id IAA21038; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:41:01 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA26448; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:39:43 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA50992 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:37:49 -0800 Received: from bbaer.muenster.de (root@bbaer.muenster.de [195.202.32.20]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id IAA28048 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:37:46 -0800 Received: from muenster.de (mueamc-wan183.citykom.de [195.202.35.183]) by bbaer.muenster.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14691 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:37:30 +0100 Message-Id: <36486BDB.C9FFBB54@muenster.de> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:37:47 +0100 Reply-To: Peter Berlau Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Peter Berlau To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine for Debian 2.0 where the Sources to get MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Accept-Language: en X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I've had using pine on a SuSE-Linux, really great now i switched my linux box to Debian 2.0 and I NEED pine also running on this box. But unfortuanelety I can't remember where I get the pine sources from. Please help me Thanks a lot Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:47:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id IAA31931 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:47:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id IAA25474; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:47:20 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA26846; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:46:31 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA51348 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:44:44 -0800 Received: from sass165.sandia.gov (mailgate.sandia.gov [132.175.109.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id IAA28899 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:44:43 -0800 Received: from sasg829.sandia.gov (sasg829.sandia.gov [134.253.226.190]) by sass165.sandia.gov (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA02819 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:44:43 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:44:34 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Daniel Sands To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine for Debian 2.0 where the Sources to get In-Reply-To: <36486BDB.C9FFBB54@muenster.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Peter Berlau wrote: > Hi, > I've had using pine on a SuSE-Linux, really great > now i switched my linux box to Debian 2.0 and > I NEED pine also running on this box. > But unfortuanelety I can't remember where I get the pine > sources from. > Please help me > > Thanks a lot > Peter > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Try this link. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:32:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id PAA24087 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:32:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id PAA28545; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:32:34 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id PAA29485; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:31:45 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA61354 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:28:26 -0800 Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id PAA01583 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:28:26 -0800 Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust23.tnt16.atl2.da.uu.net [153.34.26.23]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11214 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:28:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <364A1D0E.1FC28F47@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:26:07 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jimmy Miller Jr To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: PINE-INFO Washington University X-Accept-Language: en X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I just installed Pine3.96 and I can't get my message to the Inbox, they go in sent-mail box. Any reasons why? Thanks, Jimmy Miller jraymiller@earthlink.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:29:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id RAA25185 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:29:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id RAA01049; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:29:29 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id RAA05560; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:28:46 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA46878 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:26:47 -0800 Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id RAA14387 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:26:47 -0800 Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust23.tnt16.atl2.da.uu.net [153.34.26.23]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29358 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:26:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <364A38D0.DDDA853@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:24:33 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jimmy Miller Jr To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Help References: <364A1D0E.1FC28F47@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Accept-Language: en X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I know sent messages go to the sent-mail folder, I don't understand why messages won't go into the Inbox. I hope this helps to explain my question below. Thanks Jimmy Miller Jr wrote: > I just installed Pine3.96 and I can't get my message to the Inbox, they > go in sent-mail box. Any reasons why? > > Thanks, > > Jimmy Miller > jraymiller@earthlink.net > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:42:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id GAA31960 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:42:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id GAA13617; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:42:44 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id GAA09271; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:41:33 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA40230 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:38:02 -0800 Received: from plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de (flo@plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.147.28]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id GAA24968 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:38:00 -0800 Received: from localhost (flo@localhost) by plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21855 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 15:37:51 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 15:37:51 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: Florian Kolbe Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Florian Kolbe To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: problems with automounted spool file In-Reply-To: <364A38D0.DDDA853@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am using pine 4.05 on Linux 2.0.35 and my spool file is in an NFS-automounted directory. I _sometimes_ get the following screen: ->N 1 Nov 13 flo@plato.physik.uni-kons (679K) /var/mnt/mail/flo [Folder "INBOX" opened with 1 message READONLY] Instead of showing the mails in the spool file it shows me the whole spool file as a single mail. This is related to the automounted directory because I hadn't had this problem before, when I used to work on a locally mounted spool file. Any ideas? Florian ############################################################################ # Florian Kolbe - Florian.Kolbe@uni-konstanz.de # ############################################################################ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:24:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id HAA17149 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:24:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id HAA14312; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:24:47 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id HAA10910; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:23:36 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA32680 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:21:52 -0800 Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.85]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id HAA27077 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:21:51 -0800 Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust251.tnt16.atl2.da.uu.net [153.34.26.251]) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06293 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:21:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <364C4E04.B573D063@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:19:32 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jimmy Miller Jr To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Inbox MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: PINE-INFO Washington University X-Accept-Language: en X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN When I compose a message to a user with Pine the message never hits the users Inbox(he does not get the message). I can however use "mailx" and it will go in the Inbox and I am able to read it with Pine. I am running on the System V Release 4 port of Pine. We don't have the "/var/spool/mail" directory over in SVR4, we have "/var/mail". I have a Linux System with Pine and it works fine, the users get their messages. Any help would be greatly appreciated TIA, Jimmy Miller ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:01:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id IAA24118 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:01:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id IAA15007; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:00:58 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id HAA12378; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:59:44 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA11080 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:57:41 -0800 Received: from gw.learjet.com (firewall-user@gw.learjet.com [192.206.89.4]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id HAA30806 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:57:40 -0800 Received: by gw.learjet.com; id JAA26435; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:57:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from hs8.learjet.com(172.18.126.238) by gw.learjet.com via smap (4.1) id xma026411; Fri, 13 Nov 98 09:57:21 -0600 Received: from unknown (hx02.learjet.com [172.18.126.91]) by hs8.learjet.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA02843 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:57:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost by unknown (1.37.109.20) id AA095732640; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:57:20 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:57:20 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jeff To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: .signature pipe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Info List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, all. Have a curious situation: I set up a perl program to feed a signature-like thing to a FIFO named "~/.signature". Works fine (`cat .signature` prints what I want). If I load up pine with the signature-file value as (not default), and then I ^R to read in .signature, it also reads it in just fine. But, if I set up pine with signature-file to be .signature, then when I do a compose, it breaks the pipe. I can only assume that the way in which pine reads the signature file differs between a ^R read and an automatic 'include signature on compose' read. Anyone shed any light on this? Thanks! -jeff with a manually inserted .sig (not speaking for Learjet, I just work there). ----- Jeff Schaller schaller@learjet.com UNIX System Administrator Phone: (316) 946-7255 Learjet Inc Fax: (316) 946-2809 9:56am up 22:56, 8 users, load average: 0.09, 0.09, 0.09 ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:06:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA08067 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:06:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA22349; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:06:15 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA27025; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:02:44 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA60126 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:55:27 -0800 Received: from crypt.yashy.ottawa.on.ca (cpu1671.adsl.bellglobal.com [206.47.27.152]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA18647 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:55:26 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crypt.yashy.ottawa.on.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA06981 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 17:03:24 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 17:03:24 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: hackerboy Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Yasholomew Yashinski To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: read-messages folder MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've just setup my incomming directories/folders filter, and would like to setup the read-messages filter, but it doesn't show you the proper syntax. I'd like to setup it up as follows: new pine mail goes to ~/mail/INCOMMING/pine-new and once read, I'd like it to go to ~/mail/pine-list the same for ~/mail/INCOMMING/work-new to go to ~/mail/work once it has been read. How do I set this filter up? \ _^ / ,^, @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@\ _^ / ,^, \>@@@@ Where do you want to go tomorrow? ( ==/ )=< \ {{{)=(}}}(_}}}@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@{{{)=(}}}(_}}} ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:00:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id VAA13785 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:00:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id VAA02748; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:00:41 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id UAA19928; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 20:59:52 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA22410 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 20:57:46 -0800 Received: from westbyserver.westby.mwt.net (westbyserver.westby.mwt.net [156.46.73.3]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id UAA06402 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 20:57:45 -0800 Received: from ppp75.lemonweir.mwt.net (tildar@ppp75.lemonweir.mwt.net [156.46.71.175]) by westbyserver.westby.mwt.net (8.8.7/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA23904 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 22:56:39 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 22:57:16 -0600 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Brad Wyman To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: i guess i have a msil problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: tildar@tildar.tildar.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN i have forwarded a problem that someone at belllabs sent me. anyone know how this is happening? and how i can fix ir? thanks Brad Wyman -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ===linux is user friendly, its just fussy about who its friends are!!!==== -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 17:12:50 -0500 From: bobf@plan9.bell-labs.com To: tildar@mwt.net i noticed in our logs that a piece of mail from you was delivered to our domain, perhaps via a mailing list, with the following header: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:26:26 -0600 (EST) From: Brad Wyman X-Sender: tildar@tildar.tildar.net To: igorr@sdf.lonestar.org cc: manhattan-list@redhat.com, recipient list not shown: ; the "-0600 (EST)" is an illegal timezone declaration; EST is 5 zones east of GMT, not 6. i'm telling you this because that bogus time stamp is a symptom of a forged header used by one of the mailers favored by spammers and most spam filters mark messages with that fingerprint as having a high likelihood of being spam. i'm just tipping you off that it's in your best interest to set your system's timezone specification correctly, or you stand a good probability of having your messages rejected or filtered. bob flandrena postmaster@bell-labs.com postmaster@research.bell-labs.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 01:43:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id BAA21871 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 01:43:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id BAA03603; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 01:42:56 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id BAA25018; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 01:42:20 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA25626 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 01:40:48 -0800 Received: from westbyserver.westby.mwt.net (westbyserver.westby.mwt.net [156.46.73.3]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id BAA06196 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 01:40:47 -0800 Received: from ppp107.lemonweir.mwt.net (tildar@ppp107.lemonweir.mwt.net [156.46.71.207]) by westbyserver.westby.mwt.net (8.8.7/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA10794 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 03:39:09 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 03:39:27 -0600 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Brad Wyman To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: incoming-archive-folders ?!?!?!?! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: tildar@tildar.tildar.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN i just cant seem to get the setting incoming-archive-folders to work. as i understand it, if i put somthing like mbox mbox-saved in PINE 4.05 SETUP CONFIGURATION under incoming-archive-folders, it should move all the read mail in mbox into a folder named mbox-saved when i close pine. this is not happning. have i miss understood how this option is ment to be used? or am i missing some other setting somwhere? please help. thanks in advance -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ===linux is user friendly, its just fussy about who its friends are!!!==== -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:37:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id RAA08565 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:37:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id RAA02976; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:37:26 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id RAA17813; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:36:21 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA60822 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:33:10 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id RAA28199 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:33:09 -0800 Received: from localhost (hubert@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id RAA29075 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:33:09 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:33:08 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: .signature pipe In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Pine does a stat on the file to see how big it is and then reads that many bytes, so that doesn't work right with named pipes. The next version of pine will allow you to indicate that the sig file is a program instead of a file to be read by appending a | character to that name. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:06:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id IAA20268 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:06:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id IAA14192; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:06:24 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA07530; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:04:54 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA38168 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:01:16 -0800 Received: from tufa.hbrt.hu (tufa.hbrt.hu [195.228.53.17]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id IAA13034 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:01:10 -0800 Received: (from smap@localhost) by tufa.hbrt.hu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA00492 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:57:35 +0100 Received: from relay.hbrt.hu(172.16.128.76) by tufa.hbrt.hu via smap (V1.3) id sma000487; Mon Nov 16 16:56:35 1998 Received: from hehak.hbrt.hu (root@hehak.hbrt.hu [172.16.128.88]) by robi.hbrt.hu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA63088 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:57:50 +0100 Received: from pata.hbrt.hu (pata.hbrt.hu [172.16.128.74]) by hehak.hbrt.hu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25943 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:05:29 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:59:07 +0100 (Central Europe Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Tibor Szep To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: message/rfc822 with quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: szt@hehak.hbrt.hu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello all, While I was testing the archive feature of SmartList I found some strange operation of PC-Pine 4.05 on a WNT 4.0 SP3 Workstation. (Sorry, if the problem below is a well-known one...) Because we use national (8bit) characters in the body (and sometimes the header) of messages, the archive server encode these messages before sending either using the base64 or the quoted-printable algorithm. The content type is set to "message/rfc822". If I try to open such an archive message in Pine: - the message contains only an attachment. - after opening the attachment, I cannot see the message body: I get a "Can't display missing text segment" message instead. - I haven't got an export command - all I can do is to save the attachment into a message folder. If the message was encoded with base64, the saved message is unusable (there are no headers). Comments: - If I retrieve plain ASCII messages (there is no encoding necessary), PC-Pine works as expected. - If I modify the SmartList algorithm to send messages with 8bit encoding, PC-Pine still works as expected. - Pine 3.95 (on a RedHat 4.2) also fails to display the message, but it can export it. The exported file is correctly decoded. - Netscape Messenger also has troubles with encoded messages... - MS Outlook Express handles encoded letters correctly: the encoded letter appears as an attachment; it opens in a new message window with correct decoding. Thanks for your patience, Tibor P.S. More details about the problem: I issue a get command for an older message. In the reply message I can see the following header items: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Content-Disposition: inline; filename="volume1998/11" Content-Type: message/rfc822; directory="volume1998"; name="11" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message body is not shown, instead I see: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- [ Part 1, Message/RFC822 1.1KB. ] [ Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part. ] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I press V and get the attachment index: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 ~1.1 KB Message/RFC822, "list Digest V98 #11" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- If I press ENTER I get the following screen: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From: list-request@our.list.server Subject: list Digest V98 #11 X-Loop: list@our.list.server X-Mailing-List: archive/volume98/11 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" To: list@our.list.server [Can't display missing text segment] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:01:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id LAA11720 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:01:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id LAA17071; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:01:00 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id KAA03693; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:58:32 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA60824 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:56:28 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id KAA23479 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:56:28 -0800 Received: from frank.mtsu.edu (IDENT:root@frank.mtsu.edu [161.45.128.109]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id KAA20237 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:56:23 -0800 Received: from localhost (dc2b@loopback [127.0.0.1]) by frank.mtsu.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA25108 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:56:26 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:56:24 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Debora Caferri To: Pine Discussion Forum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am a student at Middle Tenneese State University(MTSU) and I have an e-mail frank account in here:dc2b@frank.mtsu.edu. I was trying to send an e-mail to France but the Mail Delivery Subs returned my mail saying that it had fatal errors. I don't really know how pine works so can you please tell me if am I able to send an e-mail everywhere using pine? Do I have to do anything special or different? Thank you for your time. You can send me an answer at the address above. ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:17:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id LAA22725 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:17:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id LAA17589; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:17:38 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id LAA20729; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:15:49 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA23152 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:13:49 -0800 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id LAA11941 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:13:49 -0800 Received: from alpha.computers.org (ssdipola@slip139-92-33-50.lju.si.ibm.net [139.92.33.50]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA51046 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 19:13:31 GMT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 20:12:48 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: Iztok Polanic Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: THIS IS A BUG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@alpha.computers.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello !!! I don't know if this exists in new realeses of Pine, but I do know that this works in 3.96 versions. I found this bug on the web. ---------- Hello Everyone. I would like to announce that I have discovered what appears to be a rather serious bug in the Pine Mail Client, that allows a user of Pine to overwrite ANY file, with ANY permissions or ownerships in their home directory (including sub-directorys). This bug can be used to overwrite a protected login script, or to overwrite a resource file (like .pinerc). This can be of serious concern to those that use Pine as a shell for users, as this can allow them to modify or create files that could be used to gain shell access. (Such as .rhosts, .forward, etc.) All that is required to exploit this apparent bug is to open up a message attachment using the Pine attachment viewer, and save the attachment. If you want to overwrite ANY file anywhere in the users home directory, just enter the file name and select overwrite. This does not work outside of the users home directory BTW. The interesting thing about this is that it appears to completly bypass any filesystem level security (permissions, owner, etc.). Also, when pine overwrites the file it sets the mode to 622 (-rw-r--r--) and the owner to the current user. (The pine executable IS NOT setuid root.) I have verified this behavior on Pine version 3.95 & 3.96 on Linux systems. So far I have not been able to find a version or system that is not susceptable. I do not currently know of any patch or fix for this behavior. ---------------------- If this is still not fix, then please FIX IT! Bye. ////// xxxxxx ( o o ) xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ xx xx | From: Iztok Polanic | xxxx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | xx xx | WWW: http://kotzi.home.ml.org | xx xx | http://www.intering.si | xx xx | ICQ: Kotzi => *12556824* | \-----------------------------------------/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:42:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA27093 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:42:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA25548; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:42:41 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id NAA17223; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:38:50 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA48294 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:32:55 -0800 Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.243]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA14736 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:32:54 -0800 Received: from alpha.computers.org (ssdipola@slip139-92-33-90.lju.si.ibm.net [139.92.33.90]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA79440 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:32:49 GMT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 22:32:00 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: Iztok Polanic Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: A New Feature MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@alpha.computers.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello !!! Maybe the Pine Developers could make a new feature with which you can post all your messages that are in postponed folder at once. So, you don't have to press for every message CTRL-X. What do you think? Bye. ////// xxxxxx ( o o ) xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ xx xx | From: Iztok Polanic | xxxx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | xx xx | WWW: http://kotzi.home.ml.org | xx xx | http://www.intering.si | xx xx | ICQ: Kotzi => *12556824* | \-----------------------------------------/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:44:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA16442 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:44:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA25593; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:44:09 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id NAA11960; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:41:24 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA29962 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:33:01 -0800 Received: from gw.learjet.com (gw.learjet.com [192.206.89.4]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA29080 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:33:00 -0800 Received: by gw.learjet.com; id PAA16649; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:32:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from hs8.learjet.com(172.18.126.238) by gw.learjet.com via smap (4.1) id xma016610; Mon, 16 Nov 98 15:32:34 -0600 Received: from unknown (hx02.learjet.com [172.18.126.91]) by hs8.learjet.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA08058; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:32:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost by unknown (1.37.109.20) id AA088161952; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:32:32 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:32:32 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: Jeff Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jeff To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: THIS IS A BUG In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Iztok Polanic X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Iztok Polanic wrote: > Hello !!! Greetings, > ---------- > Hello Everyone. I would like to announce that I have discovered > what appears to be a rather serious bug in the Pine Mail Client, > that allows a user of Pine to overwrite ANY file, with ANY > permissions or ownerships in their home directory (including > sub-directorys). Because you own your home directory. Try saving a file to a subdirectory that isn't owned by you. > The interesting thing about this is that it appears to completly > bypass any filesystem level security (permissions, owner, etc.). > Also, when pine overwrites the file it sets the mode to 622 > (-rw-r--r--) and the owner to the current user. (The pine executable > IS NOT setuid root.) It sets the mode to your current umask, at least according to my experiments. Also see above. > I have verified this behavior on Pine version 3.95 & 3.96 on Linux > systems. So far I have not been able to find a version or system > that is not susceptable. I do not currently know of any patch or > fix for this behavior. Because it's the default behavior on unix systems. You might look into a shorter .sig as well :) -jeff ----- Jeff Schaller schaller@learjet.com UNIX System Administrator Phone: (316) 946-7255 Learjet Inc Fax: (316) 946-2809 3:31pm up 4 days, 4:31, 9 users, load average: 0.16, 0.16, 0.14 (speaking for himself, working at Learjet) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:50:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA28996 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:50:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA27509; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:50:10 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA00851; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:46:41 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA23530 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:57:54 -0800 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [209.70.169.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA26693 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:57:53 -0800 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [209.70.169.2]) by kens.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA00915 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:57:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:57:55 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: A New Feature In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Iztok Polanic wrote: > Hello !!! > > Maybe the Pine Developers could make a new feature with which you can post > all your messages that are in postponed folder at once. So, you don't have > to press for every message CTRL-X. > What do you think? OK, but keep in mind that you asked. A. That you need to RTFM about sig files. B. That you need to RTFM about sigdashes. C. That you are a sniveling idiot who complains too much. D. That you don't know what the mail list is for. E. That you don't know how to properly compose email. Shall I continue??? (Yes, I'm back, so if you're an idiot, think twice before you post) (And no, I didn't trim the orig post. Look at this stupid sig!!) > > Bye. > > ////// > xxxxxx ( o o ) > xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ > xx xx | From: Iztok Polanic | > xxxx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | > xx xx | WWW: http://kotzi.home.ml.org | > xx xx | http://www.intering.si | > xx xx | ICQ: Kotzi => *12556824* | > \-----------------------------------------/ > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:55:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA28300 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:55:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA24026; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:55:00 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA15527; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:52:48 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA24992 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:01:48 -0800 Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA19315 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:01:46 -0800 Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA02782 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:01:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:01:45 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jim Sander To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: THIS IS A BUG In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Not a bug in pine. That's just the way the Unix file system works, for better or for worse. Don't believe me? Try this... su touch ~user/deleteme chmod 000 ~user/deleteme now go back to being "user" ls -l deleteme ---------- 1 root wheel 0 Nov 16 16:16 deleteme rm deleteme override --------- root/wheel for deleteme? (answer y and the file is gone) Ak! The shell is broken- fix it! :) I know this doesn't explain everything- but this list is about pine, not Unix in general. You should probably read up on the way Unix handles file hierarchy, and man chmod. There's probably a way to accomplish what you want, but "fixing" this in pine won't do any good. When you "man chmod" pay close attention to the part on sticky bits and see if it's any help. -=Jim=- P.S. Once you understand all of this, the issue of overwriting files will be immediately revealed. (hint: you're probably using a copy of the file you're editing) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:22:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id LAA15875 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:22:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id LAA05513; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:22:14 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id LAA28170; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:21:02 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA51370 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:18:01 -0800 Received: from elwood.cais.com (elwood.cais.com [199.0.216.215]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id LAA24270 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:18:00 -0800 Received: from sonja (zander.cais.com [207.176.69.220]) by elwood.cais.com (8.9.1/Elwood) with SMTP id OAA28106 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:17:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981117141711.00a3cbe0@172.27.72.2> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:17:11 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Karl Zander To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: POP3 vs IMAP with PINE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: zander@172.27.72.2 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am looking for some clarification.... The PINE documentation for 4.05 says PINE uses IMAP to access messages. Does that mean it will not work with a POP3 server? Or is POP3 a subset for IMAP? Or is there an option in PINE to tell it to use POP3? Thanks... Karl Zandre Communication Partners International em: kzander@commpartners.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:44:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA17043 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:44:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA09527; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:44:17 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id NAA11126; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:42:52 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA58026 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:41:10 -0800 Received: from mail.mankato.msus.edu (Mail.Mankato.MSUS.EDU [134.29.1.12]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA31983 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:41:07 -0800 Received: from bs1.mankato.msus.edu (root@bs1.Mankato.MSUS.EDU [134.29.1.244]) by mail.mankato.msus.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA31638 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:41:03 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199811172141.PAA31638@mail.mankato.msus.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:40:48 -0600 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jeffrey Hundstad To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: IMAP folders MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've been admining the Pine IMAP interface at MSU here for years. On 3.96 we used: folder-collections = {mail.mankato.msus.edu}inbox.[] This allowed us to create and delete folders.... With the same folder-collection line 4.05 doesn't show the folders anymore. 4.05 does allow me to create a folder but it won't show it to me... If I exit 4.05 and then look from 3.96 viola the folders I created on 4.05 are usable. Why can't I see these folders on 4.05? If I use: folder-collections = {mail.mankato.msus.edu}[INBOX.%] The folders show under 4.05 but then this configuration doesn't work with 3.96, and it acts really goofy under 4.05. There must be a configuration that works with both 3.96 and 4.05. I looked at the source on 4.05 a bit and it looks like the context code has been changed quite a bit since 3.96. I suspect things aren't working quite right. It looks like the context is: {mail.mankato.msus.edu}%s I'm no expert in this code (far from it) but it appears that the context should NEVER have a "%s" in it. -- Jeffrey Hundstad ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:46:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA17352 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:46:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA09565; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:46:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id NAA24468; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:45:27 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA29784 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:44:08 -0800 Received: from ns1.cioe.com (fletch@ns1.cioe.com [204.120.165.37]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA13320 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:44:08 -0800 Received: from localhost (fletch@localhost) by ns1.cioe.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA00310 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:44:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from fletch@ns1.cioe.com) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:44:07 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Kevin Fletcher To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Auto move emails MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN How can I make emails with a certain subject, for example: form* so I can have all email with the subject: form* automatically put into a certain folder. I know procmail does this, but it doesn't seem to work that great. Does anyone know how to do this? I am pretty sure Pine can do this.. Thanks, Kevin ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:12:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA18710 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:12:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA10285; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:12:16 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA26012; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:10:48 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA34048 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:09:27 -0800 Received: from mg2.rockymtn.net (mailserv.rockymtn.net [166.93.205.12]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA03459 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:09:27 -0800 Received: from rainbow.rmi.net (rainbow [166.93.8.14]) by mg2.rockymtn.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA15485 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:09:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from nerdherd.evilpeople.net (manuka@nerdherd.evilpeople.net [166.93.72.131]) by rainbow.rmi.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13964 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:09:08 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:10:28 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ian Hall-Beyer To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Auto move emails In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: manuka@tuvok.geekpad.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 17 Nov 1998, Kevin Fletcher wrote: > How can I make emails with a certain subject, for example: form* > so I can have all email with the subject: form* automatically put into a > certain folder. I know procmail does this, but it doesn't seem to work > that great. Does anyone know how to do this? I am pretty sure Pine can do > this.. According to the many documents and faqs about pine, pine does not do filtering. Procmail works fantastically when properly set up. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:45:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA15327 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:45:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA11184; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:45:04 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA08970; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:43:27 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA59934 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:41:52 -0800 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [209.70.169.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA08508 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:41:51 -0800 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [209.70.169.2]) by kens.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA08118 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:41:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:41:53 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Auto move emails In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Yep, procmail doesn't work. That's why everybody uses it. Shouldn't your question have been something along the lines of: "I don't know how to use procmail (or regex's), can somebody help me off-line, and educate me??? I've read some web pages on this topic, but still have some questions." If so, I'd be more than willing to help you. On Tue, 17 Nov 1998, Kevin Fletcher wrote: > How can I make emails with a certain subject, for example: form* > so I can have all email with the subject: form* automatically put into a > certain folder. I know procmail does this, but it doesn't seem to work > that great. Does anyone know how to do this? I am pretty sure Pine can do > this.. -- Ken Woods kwoodskens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:57:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA11382 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:57:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA16921; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:57:35 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA15281; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:55:38 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA51204 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:54:16 -0800 Received: from zeus.jersey.net (zeus.jersey.net [209.66.0.10]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA10361 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:54:12 -0800 Received: from localhost (tobey@localhost) by zeus.jersey.net (8.9.1/or whatever) with SMTP id RAA13613; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:54:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:54:25 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Tobey Rector To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Auto move emails In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Kevin Fletcher X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I use Filter to filter out my mail and I use pine so they are right Pine will not do it by its self but you can use procmail or filter to do it. Here is a webpage that might help.. http://www.faqs.org/faqs/mail/filtering-faq/index.html Tobey ======================================================= | Tobey Rector | InterActive Network Systems | | Internet Specialist | http://www.jersey.net | | tobey@jersey.net | Voice(609)227.4428 | | Walk-in or Call | Fax(609)227.3943 | |=====================================================| | Mon-Fri 9am to 8pm Sat. and Sun. 11am to 4pm | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | ======================================================= On Tue, 17 Nov 1998, Kevin Fletcher wrote: > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:44:07 -0500 (EST) > From: Kevin Fletcher > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Auto move emails > > How can I make emails with a certain subject, for example: form* > so I can have all email with the subject: form* automatically put into a > certain folder. I know procmail does this, but it doesn't seem to work > that great. Does anyone know how to do this? I am pretty sure Pine can do > this.. > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:08:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id RAA11216 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:08:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id RAA15555; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:08:05 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id RAA22851; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:06:51 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA40132 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:05:13 -0800 Received: from jim.southcom.com.au (IDENT:jim@jim.southcom.com.au [203.31.83.230]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id RAA18556 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:05:10 -0800 Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by jim.southcom.com.au (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15046; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:10:48 +1100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:10:48 +1100 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jim Woodward To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Auto move emails In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Kevin Fletcher X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 17 Nov 1998, Kevin Fletcher wrote: > How can I make emails with a certain subject, for example: form* > so I can have all email with the subject: form* automatically put into a > certain folder. I know procmail does this, but it doesn't seem to work > that great. Does anyone know how to do this? I am pretty sure Pine can do > this.. I use procmail myself.. i did use elm's filering for a while, but i found that to be inadequate for most things (could only do simple from's, to's and subjects) whereas procmail can filter based on info in the email header and body as well.. Regards, Jim. _____________________________________________________________________________ __ name: james woodward (jim) / . _ _ email: jim@jim.southcom.com.au, jim@woodward.southcom.com.au (_/ / / \/ ) www: http://jim.southcom.com.au, http://www.mailbag.ml.org +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:36:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id UAA10365 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:36:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id UAA18970; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:35:53 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id UAA15794; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:35:03 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA51790 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:33:04 -0800 Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id UAA17869 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:33:03 -0800 Received: from localhost (mcope@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA10931; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:32:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:32:49 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Thomas Cope To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Inbox In-Reply-To: <364C4E04.B573D063@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jimmy Miller Jr X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Jimmy Miller Jr wrote: > When I compose a message to a user with Pine the message never hits the > users > Inbox(he does not get the message). I can however use "mailx" and it > will go in > the Inbox and I am able to read it with Pine. I am running on the > System V Release 4 port of Pine. We don't have the "/var/spool/mail" > directory over in SVR4, we have "/var/mail". I have a Linux System with > Pine and it works fine, the users get their messages. Any help would be > greatly appreciated > change inbox-path either in ~/.pinerc for each user or in the global /usr/lib/pine.conf # Path of (local or remote) INBOX, e.g. ={mail.somewhere.edu}inbox # Normal Unix default is the local INBOX (usually /usr/spool/mail/$USER). inbox-path=/var/mail/$USER -- Michael Cope: Harvey Mudd College '00; Armand Hammer UWC '96 E-mail: Michael_Cope@hmc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:43:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id JAA05593 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:43:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id JAA08509; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:43:30 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id JAA15607; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:40:54 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA23404 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:25:15 -0800 Received: from mailhost3.u.washington.edu (mailhost3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id JAA17965 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:25:15 -0800 Received: from D-128-95-135-197.dhcp.washington.edu (D-128-95-135-197.dhcp.washington.edu [128.95.135.197]) by mailhost3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id JAA22712; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:25:03 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:24:38 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: kanelson@cac.washington.edu Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Kris Nelson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: POP3 vs IMAP with PINE In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981117141711.00a3cbe0@172.27.72.2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Karl Zander X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: kanelson@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 17 Nov 1998, Karl Zander wrote: > I am looking for some clarification.... > > The PINE documentation for 4.05 says PINE uses > IMAP to access messages. Does that mean it > will not work with a POP3 server? Or is POP3 > a subset for IMAP? Or is there an option > in PINE to tell it to use POP3? Try FAQ #3.17: Can Pine be used with a POP server? at: http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq For further information on Pine and PC-Pine, including a list of Frequently Asked Questions and a User's Guide, please see the Pine Information Center at: http://www.washington.edu/pine Regards, Kris -- Kristopher Nelson -- kanelson@cac.washington.edu University of Washington -- Computing & Communications From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:18:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id UAA14876 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:18:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id UAA19531; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:17:58 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id UAA28993; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:17:08 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA14912 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:14:33 -0800 Received: from crypt.yashy.ottawa.on.ca (ott-pm9-15.comnet.ca [206.75.142.15]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id UAA01010 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:14:25 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crypt.yashy.ottawa.on.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA20470 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:23:47 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:23:46 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: hackerboy Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Yasholomew Yashinski To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: read-messages folder In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > did anyone ever send you a reply to this one? if so can you pass the info > on to me? > i did give it a try, but it just will not seem to work > > thanks > > On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Yasholomew Yashinski wrote: > > > I've just setup my incomming directories/folders filter, and would like to > > setup the read-messages filter, but it doesn't show you the proper syntax. > > I'd like to setup it up as follows: > > > > new pine mail goes to ~/mail/INCOMMING/pine-new > > and once read, I'd like it to go to ~/mail/pine-list > > the same for ~/mail/INCOMMING/work-new > > to go to ~/mail/work once it has been read. > > How do I set this filter up? can anyone help me? It seems I am not the only one trying to create such a filter.. Thnx. p.s. I gave Pine the option to open LYNX whn faced with an URL, however not all URLs are "clickable", why is this? do they need "a href"?? p.p.s Are random sigs possible yet? Pine with COLOR? \ _^ / ,^, @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@\ _^ / ,^, \>@@@@ Where do you want to go tomorrow? ( ==/ )=< \ {{{)=(}}}(_}}}@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@{{{)=(}}}(_}}} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:20:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id UAA01997 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:20:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id UAA25295; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:20:43 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id UAA14392; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:19:59 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA33280 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:13:41 -0800 Received: from tilmax.tatainfotech.co.in (tilmax.tatainfotech.co.in [202.54.16.130]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id UAA27510 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:13:16 -0800 Received: from seepzmail.in.tatainfotech.com (163-122-3222.unisys.com [163.122.32.22]) by tilmax.tatainfotech.co.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA08309 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:31:09 +0530 Received: from seepzmail by seepzmail.in.tatainfotech.com (8.6.10/SMI-4.1) id EAA05594; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 04:13:50 GMT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:43:49 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nayan Jain To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Saving deleted messages... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: nayan.jain@seepzmail X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi all, Is there any way in PINe 3.96 that you save all the deleted messages in a folder that you can delete later on. I dont want to move messages to a junk folder for time being thinking as i have deleted them. TIA, Nayan...! "Any activity becomes creative when the doer cares about doing it right, or doing it better." -John Updike ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:53:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id JAA07730 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:53:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id JAA08523; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:53:05 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id JAA14583; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:51:48 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA24472 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:49:26 -0800 Received: from silly.phys.uvic.ca (michael@silly.phys.UVic.CA [142.104.61.65]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id JAA21145 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:49:25 -0800 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by silly.phys.uvic.ca (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA04645 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:49:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:49:24 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Michael J. Rensing" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine moves messages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: silly.phys.uvic.ca: michael owned process doing -bs X-Sender: michael@silly.phys.UVic.CA X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've just installed pine 4.05 for HPUX 10.20 using the pre-compiled binaries. Can anyone explain the following behaviour? I cannot find any configuration options which seem to relate. When one user starts pine, their new mail stays in the inbox. When another user starts pine, the new mail gets moved from the inbox to ~/mbox. There is a message in the debug file "IMAP 15:06:01 11/19 mm_log warn: Moved 6834 bytes of new mail to /home/michael/mbox from /var/mail/michael" Both users had the first behaviour under Pine 3.96, and we are not (yet) running an imap server. I prefer that the users have their mail automatically moved to their home directories, but I can't figure out why it does (or does not) do it. Michael ------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. Michael J. Rensing | http://wwwhep.phys.uvic.ca/~michael | mailto:mrensing@uvic.ca Physics and Astronomy | phone: 250-721-7741 University of Victoria | fax: 250-721-7752 ------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:41:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA14998 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:41:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA06462; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:41:41 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id NAA02117; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:37:21 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA61354 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:03:56 -0800 Received: from prfdec.natur.cuni.cz (prfdec.natur.cuni.cz [195.113.56.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA17748 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:03:55 -0800 Received: (from mmokrejs@localhost) by prfdec.natur.cuni.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id WAA20930; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 22:03:49 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 22:03:49 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Martin Mokrejs To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine moves messages In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Michael J. Rensing" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 20 Nov 1998, Michael J. Rensing wrote: > When one user starts pine, their new mail stays in the inbox. > > When another user starts pine, the new mail gets moved from the > inbox to ~/mbox. There is a message in the debug file "IMAP 15:06:01 That shouldn't be by default enabled. Pine claims to support IMAP indexing messages. It's fine that it doesn't show IMAP index messages to the user (can be seen by Mail or mail). But I hope it's shouldn't create the message itself. It's fine when this message is created when user uses IMAP, otherwise there's no reason to create this index message. It's quell-folder-internal-msg option - another which should be enabled by default (see below). > 11/19 mm_log warn: Moved 6834 bytes of new mail to /home/michael/mbox > from /var/mail/michael" The mbox-driver moves first mails from /var/spool/mail/username to $HOME/mbox, while quitting pine mails are moved to $HOME/mail/read-messages by default. Try to change your settings in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf read-message-folder=mbox This will moved read--but-undeleted-messages to $HOME/mail/mbox Change the 'mail-directory' variable to $HOME if you want to move messages to ~username/mbox. I hope this should be the default pine behavior (for backwards compatibility with mail or Mail)! Also, I hope by default should be disabled the mbox-driver, which generates unnecessary I/O. To disable mbox-driver, place in pine.conf this line: disable-these-drivers=mbox >From technical notes: # # The mbox driver enables the following behavior: if there is a file called mbox in your # home directory, and if that file is either empty or in Unix mailbox format, then every # time you open INBOX the mbox driver will automatically transfer mail from the system mail # spool directory into the mbox file and delete it from the spool directory. If you disable # the mbox driver, this will not happen. # It is not recommended to disable the driver which supports the system default mailbox # format. On most non-SCO systems, that driver is the unix driver. On most SCO systems, it # is the mmdf driver. The system default driver may be configured to something else on your # system; check with your system manager for additional information. # It is most likely not very useful for you to disable any of the drivers other than # possibly mbox. You could disable some of the others if you know for certain that you don't # need them but the performance gain in doing so is very modest. # Also the feature-list options were difficult for me to set up - it's well hidden in the documentation. I thought I should list them one line by line .... No. This is the proper way: feature-list=delete-skips-deleted, uto-open-next-unread, quell-folder-internal-msg Sorry for wasting the bandwidth. -- Martin Mokrejs - PGP 5.0i key at: finger://mail.natur.cuni.cz/mmokrejs Faculty of Science, The Charles University From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:25:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id JAA15011 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:25:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id JAA24500; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:25:49 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id JAA11211; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:25:12 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA37116 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:21:23 -0800 Received: from luomat.peak.org (port-66-ts1-gnv.da.fdt.net [209.212.132.225]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id JAA24244 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:21:21 -0800 Message-Id: <199811211721.MAA10797@ocalhost> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 12:20:57 -0500 Reply-To: public+Lists\/Unix\/Pine@fdt.net Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Saving deleted messages... In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-To: Nayan Jain X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Author: Nayan Jain Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:43:49 +0530 (IST) ID: > Is there any way in PINe 3.96 that you save all the deleted messages in a > folder that you can delete later on. > > I dont want to move messages to a junk folder for time being thinking as i > have deleted them. I'm confused what you are looking for then. You want to save all the deleted messages to a folder that you can delete later, but you don't want to move them to a folder, thinking that you've deleted them. Why not just delete them but don't expunge them? TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 23:12:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id XAA10502 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 23:12:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id XAA06020; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 23:12:26 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id XAA22829; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 23:10:37 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id XAA32620 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 23:02:44 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id TAA00461 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:12:50 -0800 Received: from D-140-142-189-191.dhcp.washington.edu (D-140-142-189-191.dhcp.washington.edu [140.142.189.191]) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id TAA07004; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:12:46 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:13:03 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine moves messages In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Michael J. Rensing" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN For better or worse, Pine 4.xx has the "mbox" driver enabled by default, The mbox driver looks for a file in one's home directory named "mbox" and if it finds one (and it is in a valid mailbox format), automatically moves mail from the spool directory. This is discussed in the Release Notes and the Pine tech notes. -teg On Fri, 20 Nov 1998, Michael J. Rensing wrote: > I've just installed pine 4.05 for HPUX 10.20 using the pre-compiled > binaries. Can anyone explain the following behaviour? I cannot find > any configuration options which seem to relate. > > When one user starts pine, their new mail stays in the inbox. > > When another user starts pine, the new mail gets moved from the > inbox to ~/mbox. There is a message in the debug file "IMAP 15:06:01 > 11/19 mm_log warn: Moved 6834 bytes of new mail to /home/michael/mbox > from /var/mail/michael" > > Both users had the first behaviour under Pine 3.96, and we are not > (yet) running an imap server. > > I prefer that the users have their mail automatically moved to their > home directories, but I can't figure out why it does (or does not) do > it. > Michael > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Dr. Michael J. Rensing | http://wwwhep.phys.uvic.ca/~michael > | mailto:mrensing@uvic.ca > Physics and Astronomy | phone: 250-721-7741 > University of Victoria | fax: 250-721-7752 > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 00:50:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id AAA10999 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 00:50:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id AAA15824; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 00:50:44 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id AAA07287; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 00:50:12 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id AAA50714 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 00:48:05 -0800 Received: from hotmail.com (f268.hotmail.com [207.82.251.159]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with SMTP id AAA17316 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 00:48:05 -0800 Received: (qmail 22914 invoked by uid 0); 22 Nov 1998 08:48:02 -0000 Received: from 203.135.3.2 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 00:47:57 PST Message-Id: <19981122084802.22913.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 00:47:57 PST Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Imran Shabbir" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Stopping executions of commands from within pine. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Originating-IP: [203.135.3.2] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Friends, I am facing a severe problem. We offer pine, lynx and ftp services to our users. We do not offer a shell prompts to users rather we offer these services through a 'text menu' interface. But for the past few days, I am observing a user who runs pine and within five minutes he runs commands like chmod ps which we do not offer in our text based menu for users. I think he suspends pine some how and gets a shell prompt. I have disabled pine suspension in pine.conf.fixed in /usr/local/lib. The pine.conf.fixed contains: feature-list=no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd,no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd,no-enable-suspend,no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly,auto-move-read-msgs The ownerships of files are given below: -r-xr-xr-x 1 root other 1044480 Nov 4 12:34 pico -r-xr-xr-x 1 root other 4285400 Nov 4 09:59 pine while the said user is busy in breaking the system, the output of the ps -aef|grep 'user' command shows the following: jack 14183 14182 0 16:32:29 pts/0 0:00 pine jack 14299 14183 0 16:32:58 pts/0 0:00 sh -c /home/jack/get-pswd jack 14300 14299 0 16:32:59 pts/0 0:00 /home/jack/get-pswd I blocked the account being mis-used but similar attempts are being done by many other users. I am really worried and want to know how can I stop execution of commands from pine. Please help me on making pine secure. I was using pine 3.93 and have recently upgraded to pine 4.05 but the situation is same.Do I need to modify pine.conf.fixed? Do I need to change the ownership of pine from root to bin etc or not.( I know the hacker gets root previledges after he breaks pine). Please help me.... Thanks in advance. I will summarize. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 08:01:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id IAA03915 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 08:01:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id IAA21067; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 08:01:02 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA14310; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 08:00:25 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA52440 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 07:57:52 -0800 Received: from prfdec.natur.cuni.cz (prfdec.natur.cuni.cz [195.113.56.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id HAA10603 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 07:29:52 -0800 Received: (from mmokrejs@localhost) by prfdec.natur.cuni.cz (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id QAA24488; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 16:29:50 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 16:29:50 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Martin Mokrejs To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Stopping executions of commands from within pine. In-Reply-To: <19981122084802.22913.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 22 Nov 1998, Imran Shabbir wrote: > runs commands like chmod ps which we do not offer in our text based menu Can he stop you text-based menu? Is it a shell script? Did you use 'trap' commands to disable Ctrl+c and other interrupts? The default editor is pico? If is it vi, he can start shell from within that. > > jack 14183 14182 0 16:32:29 pts/0 0:00 pine > jack 14299 14183 0 16:32:58 pts/0 0:00 sh -c /home/jack/get-pswd > jack 14300 14299 0 16:32:59 pts/0 0:00 /home/jack/get-pswd > > I blocked the account being mis-used but similar attempts are being done > by many other users. > As I see he can start shell immediately from pine. Disable the pipe command from within pine.conf.fixed Demo: shell$ echo a |more type !sh and have a shell I did not repeat it right now in pine 4.05, but I believe it will work. > ownership of pine from root to bin etc or not.( I know the hacker gets > root previledges after he breaks pine). If they get root privs, you can't be sure with just anything, then you don't need to selve such problems. backup data, reinstall system. That's the only solution. -- Martin Mokrejs - PGP 5.0i key at: finger://mail.natur.cuni.cz/mmokrejs Faculty of Science, The Charles University From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 08:18:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id IAA19837 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 08:18:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id IAA12596; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 08:18:19 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA20972; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 08:17:45 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA58730 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 08:16:01 -0800 Received: from jasper.somtel.com (IDENT:darren@jasper.somtel.com [206.139.114.254]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id IAA02593 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 08:16:00 -0800 Received: from localhost (darren@localhost) by jasper.somtel.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA18304; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 11:15:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 11:15:43 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Darren Henderson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Stopping executions of commands from within pine. In-Reply-To: <19981122084802.22913.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Imran Shabbir X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 22 Nov 1998, Imran Shabbir wrote: > for users. I think he suspends pine some how and gets a shell prompt. I > have disabled pine suspension in pine.conf.fixed in /usr/local/lib. > The pine.conf.fixed contains: > > > feature-list=no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd,no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd,no-enable-suspend,no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly,auto-move-read-msgs > The ownerships of files are given below: I don't see anything that would stop them from doing this.... set speller to bash, compose a message with the word bash (or any other set of commands) at the top of the file and then invoke the speller.... works like a charm. Add speller to your fixed file. Also as someone else has already pointed out... if they have already gotten root stop, reinstall, and start again. ______________________________________________________________________ Darren Henderson darren@jasper.somtel.com Help fight junk e-mail, visit http://www.cauce.org/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:08:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id JAA26799 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:08:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id JAA04493; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:07:48 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id JAA17896; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:05:31 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA65222 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:01:28 -0800 Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id JAA14383 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:01:26 -0800 Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA02339 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:01:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:01:25 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jim Sander To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Stopping executions of commands from within pine. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Here are the "Holes" I have commonly found exploitable on systems with "pine-only" access. They are all pretty easy to fix with conf.fixed, although some of them will be tricky if you want to give the functionality intended without exposing yourself... alternate editor speller custom-print command message piping All of these (and maybe a couple I have missed) can be used to execute commands or gain a shell. You also might want to examine your policy on, since they can aid in (if not allow outright) unauthorized accesses. custom headers (especially "From") directory access changing password from within pine allowing any alterations to the .pinerc file at all reading in and saving out files If you haven't been rooted already by one of these users, you are extemely lucky. You should definitely consider a re-install, or at least a thorough comparison with known good copies of all the key system binaries, and a full scan for anomalous files and directories. (esp. setuid root executables) You should also check your logs (if they haven't been altered or erased) and find out where these users were coming from. Contacting their local administrator would be a good idea to help prevent future problems. -=Jim=- Addy & Associates From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:56:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id PAA13607 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:56:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id PAA29376; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:56:21 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id PAA23905; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:55:26 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA19812 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:53:13 -0800 Received: from mailhub.tc.fluke.com (mail2.fluke.com [206.138.179.14]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with SMTP id PAA01901 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:53:12 -0800 Received: from tekoa.tc.fluke.com by mailhub.tc.fluke.com with SMTP (SMI-8.6/1.0) id PAA22633; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:53:09 -0800 Received: by tekoa.tc.fluke.com (SMI-8.6/1.0) id PAA19527; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:53:08 -0800 Message-Id: <19981123155307.00373@tc.fluke.com> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:53:07 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Warren Jones To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: "Message to save shrank!" (Netscape interaction) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN One of our users was surprised to see this warning when he tried to save a message to another folder: [Message to save shrank! (#1: 1473 --> 1472)] It turns out that he's also been using Netscape on a PC to read his mail, for various reasons that seem good to him. Netscape is adding headers like this to the messages it reads: X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 What isn't obvious (at least from Pine) is that Netscape is adding a carriage return to the end of the header, DOS style. That's the missing character that causes the message to shrink. I guess it's not surprising that moving mail folders back and forth between Windows and Unix would cause confusion. On the other hand, Pine 3.95 doesn't seem to be bothered. Should Pine 4.0x be able to ignore carraige returns too? -- Warren Jones Fluke Corporation ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:47:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA01252 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:47:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA25924; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:47:24 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id NAA01337; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:46:10 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA28694 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:37:42 -0800 Received: from franklin.icsd.k12.ny.us (root@franklin.icsd.k12.ny.us [207.10.97.70]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA31178 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:37:41 -0800 Received: from franklin.icsd.k12.ny.us (bill@franklin.icsd.k12.ny.us [207.10.97.70]) by franklin.icsd.k12.ny.us (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA06755 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 16:38:18 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 16:38:17 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: William_Mahler To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine ugrade error MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Info Mail List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have just upgraded to pine 4.05. I am begining to wish I had not.... When I start Pine I get a message saying mailbox vunerable directory protection must be 1777. a mode of 1777 gives the world read/write/execute access. This make no sense. I have a 2nd and 3rd account the 2nd one give me the same error, the third does not... (figure that one out...) these two accounts are identical. I have already check the protection and they are exactly the same.... --------- Bill William R. Mahler Ithaca City School District Ithaca, New York 14850 e-mail wmahler@icsd.k12.ny.us Voice (607) 274-6802 Helpline (607) 274-6800 ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:13:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA02641 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:13:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA16402; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:13:30 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA25051; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:12:17 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA50410 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:10:24 -0800 Received: from smtpgate.uvm.edu (smtpgate.uvm.edu [132.198.101.121]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA03545 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:10:21 -0800 Received: from [132.198.177.59] (132.198.177.59) by smtpgate.uvm.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.33C81E00@smtpgate.uvm.edu>; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:09:31 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:10:16 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Aaron S. Hawley" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine ugrade error In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: ashawley@zoo.uvm.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN look around the official pine site at the university of washington, and learn for yourself. it has to do with the access permissions of the inbox. of course you know this. i guess 1777 has a 1 in it, or sticky-bit thus people can create random files in your inbox, but that's it. or something. i don't know. all i know is you have found the answer to your question, and there is nothign else anyone can do. perhaps you should seek resources that are more knowledgeable in the ways of the unix. aaron On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, William_Mahler wrote: > > I have just upgraded to pine 4.05. I am begining to wish I had not.... > When I start Pine I get a message saying > mailbox vunerable directory protection must be 1777. > > a mode of 1777 gives the world read/write/execute access. This make no > sense. > > I have a 2nd and 3rd account the 2nd one give me the same error, the third > does not... (figure that one out...) these two accounts are identical. I > have already check the protection and they are exactly the same.... > > --------- > Bill > > William R. Mahler > Ithaca City School District > Ithaca, New York 14850 > e-mail wmahler@icsd.k12.ny.us > Voice (607) 274-6802 > Helpline (607) 274-6800 > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > -- [Aaron S. Hawley]___[ashawley@zoo.uvm.edu]___[http://www.uvm.edu/~ashawley] [University of Vermont]___[802.656.7396]___[Millis 428]____[Burlington,VT] Home: Vergennes, VT, USA (contrary to commmon belief of Canada) PC-Pine 4.05 E-Mailer_______________________small,fast,simple,complex,free ____________________________________________http://www.washington.edu/pine From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 19:42:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id TAA19225 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 19:42:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id TAA02854; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 19:41:57 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id TAA24833; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 19:39:46 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA23420 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 19:36:45 -0800 Received: from berry.cs.brandeis.edu (berry.cs.brandeis.edu [129.64.2.5]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id TAA09499 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 19:36:44 -0800 Received: from icarus.cs.brandeis.edu (icarus.cs.brandeis.edu [129.64.3.180]) by berry.cs.brandeis.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA06150 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 22:36:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (paaras@localhost) by icarus.cs.brandeis.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA13630 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 22:35:25 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 22:35:25 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paaras Kumar To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: How do I extract the "From" field and "Subject" field of a deleted MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: icarus.cs.brandeis.edu: paaras owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello Every one... Does anyone have any pointers on how can I extract the "From" field and the "Subject" field of a message that is marked for deletion and just before it is Expunged. I need to be able to to store those two pieces of information in a file. I have to source code for pine but, I am not sure where to look in it for the function that does all the expunging ...... Sincerely Paaras Kumar ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:16:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id LAA06951 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:16:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id LAA18368; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:15:54 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id LAA08608; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:12:25 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA32054 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:07:48 -0800 Received: from zeus.jersey.net (zeus.jersey.net [209.66.0.10]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id IAA13631 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 08:58:41 -0800 Received: from localhost (tobey@localhost) by zeus.jersey.net (8.9.1/or whatever) with SMTP id MAA12508 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 12:00:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 12:00:19 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Tobey Rector To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: _____Ramdom Tag Lines______ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Does Anybody know how to make random Tag lines in Pine?? Tobey Rector InterActive Network Systems P.O. Box 1429 Blackwood, NJ 08012 (609)227-4428 Happy Holidays -- Back up my hard drive? I can't find the reverse switch. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This but it changes everytime you go and Composs a new Message.. ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 13:02:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA25550 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 13:02:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA10894; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 13:02:18 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id NAA20345; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 13:00:14 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA13504 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 12:58:32 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with SMTP id MAA26233 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 12:58:31 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de (131.220.225.84,17587) by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM/VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 27 Nov 98 21:58:12 MEZ Received: (from robin@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA15211; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 21:40:43 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 27 Nov 1998 21:40:41 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: _____Ramdom Tag Lines______ In-Reply-To: Tobey Rector's message of "Fri, 27 Nov 1998 12:00:19 -0500 (EST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN * Tobey Rector writes: > Does Anybody know how to make random Tag lines in Pine?? 11 lines of signature crap for this one line? Get a life, luser. -- The One and Only Robin S. Socha Cc: me and I'll kill -9 you From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 13:33:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA13089 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 13:33:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA11255; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 13:33:24 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id NAA14315; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 13:31:25 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA32240 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 13:29:54 -0800 Received: from zeus.jersey.net (zeus.jersey.net [209.66.0.10]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA12436 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 13:29:53 -0800 Received: from localhost (tobey@localhost) by zeus.jersey.net (8.9.1/or whatever) with SMTP id QAA07682; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:31:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:31:32 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Tobey Rector To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: _____Ramdom Tag Lines______ In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Robin, Thank you.. I Though this was for asking questons.. I want to thank you for taking my time to read your helpful letter.. Thank you again.. Tobey Rector InterActive Network Systems P.O. Box 1429 Blackwood, NJ 08012 (609)227-4428 Happy Holidays -- Back up my hard drive? I can't find the reverse switch. On 27 Nov 1998, Robin S. Socha wrote: > Date: 27 Nov 1998 21:40:41 +0100 > From: "Robin S. Socha" > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Re: _____Ramdom Tag Lines______ > > * Tobey Rector writes: > > > Does Anybody know how to make random Tag lines in Pine?? > > 11 lines of signature crap for this one line? Get a life, luser. > > -- > The One and Only Robin S. Socha > > Cc: me and I'll kill -9 you > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:13:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA20144 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:13:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA12970; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:13:06 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA15328; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:11:27 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA22670 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:09:46 -0800 Received: from euphoria.yashy.ottawa.on.ca (root@cpu1671.adsl.bellglobal.com [206.47.27.152]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id OAA21066 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:09:46 -0800 Received: from localhost (yashy@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by euphoria.yashy.ottawa.on.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA32374; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:09:31 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:09:30 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: yashy@yashy.ottawa.on.ca Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Yasholomew Yashinski To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: _____Ramdom Tag Lines______ In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 27 Nov 1998, Robin S. Socha wrote: > * Tobey Rector writes: > > > Does Anybody know how to make random Tag lines in Pine?? > > 11 lines of signature crap for this one line? Get a life, luser. I wonder if Tobey wrecked-her like he wrecked his reputation Anyways, is it possible to post to Newsgroups, using a different username, then the normal one? ie can I change it to NG_BOY@ instead of YASHY@ when posting to newsgroups, and then just create an account for all the replies to go too? I don't want to have to use a seperate account to read newsgroups and/or post to them. As well I don't wnat to have to manually change the From: header everytime. Thanks in advance. p.s. Is there a Pine Icon, for fans to add to their webpage(s)? "One world, one web, one program" - Microsoft Promo ad. "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler yashy@yashy.ottawa.on.ca http://euphoria.yashy.ottawa.on.ca From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:50:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id SAA06187 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:50:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id SAA25640; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:50:38 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id SAA14711; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:48:42 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA35254 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:46:06 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id SAA20404 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:46:05 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:45:56 +0800 Message-Id: <000701be1b42$576179b0$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:45:36 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: _____Ramdom Tag Lines______ In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Tobey Rector" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Thank you.. I Though this was for asking questons.. It is. Some people just hyper-ventilate when confronted with messages which violate their notion of netiquette. As for random tag lines....different solutions have been posted in the past. You should probably check the archives to see if any fit your situation. Regards, Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:30:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id TAA10247 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:30:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id TAA08723; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:30:01 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id TAA00511; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:28:00 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA19516 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:26:23 -0800 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [209.70.169.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id TAA31478 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:26:22 -0800 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [209.70.169.2]) by kens.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA23133 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 22:26:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 22:26:26 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: _____Ramdom Tag Lines______ In-Reply-To: <000701be1b42$576179b0$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Ed Greshko wrote: > > Thank you.. I Though this was for asking questons.. > It is. That's true. However, this mail list is for asking TECHNICAL questions about pine. Not stupid shit like random sig files. > Some people just hyper-ventilate when confronted with messages which > violate their notion of netiquette. Your point??? Those of us who have been around for, eh, forever, have very strong feelings on these things. Exist a little, experience things, write a RFC, or even a white paper, before you pass judgement on "some people" > As for random tag lines....different solutions have been posted in the > past. You should probably check the archives to see if any fit your > situation. The best thing is, you two fuckstains TOTALLY missed the answer. Robin's post contained a URL that pointed DIRECTLY to the web page that had the answer to his question. However, *PLONK*, I don't care. -- Ken Woods kwoods@kens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 09:49:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id JAA20627 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 09:49:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id JAA00388; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 09:48:39 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id JAA28175; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 09:47:13 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA30546 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 09:45:00 -0800 Received: from luomat.peak.org (port-21-ts1-gnv.da.fdt.net [209.212.132.180]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id JAA30421 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 09:44:53 -0800 Message-Id: <199811290549.AAA07754@ocalhost> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:49:33 -0500 Reply-To: public+Lists\/Unix\/Pine@fdt.net Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: _____Ramdom Tag Lines______ In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Image-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/luomat@peak.org.tiff X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Author: "Ed Greshko" Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:45:36 +0800 ID: <000701be1b42$576179b0$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> > As for random tag lines....different solutions have been posted in the > past. Including in Robin's .sig in his reply http://www.kens.com/robin/pine-tips.html#pine-randsig I would also agree that Tobey's original .sig was far too long, and was improperly marked (the '-- ' was about 7 lines to late). In addition, the ____ stuff in the Subject: line was entirely unnecessary, and he misspelled the first word in his Subject: line (and "Composs") Add that to asking a very FAQ, and it really doesn't lead one to want to supply the answer. I'd say Robin was generous to supply one at all. TjL, still wondering when this list will turn to a more technical side of PINE rather than the same stuff that is asked on the newsgroup. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:43:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id MAA21886 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:43:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id MAA04011; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:43:03 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id MAA02457; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:42:28 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA25868 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:40:46 -0800 Received: from calypso.view.net.au (calypso.view.net.au [203.30.237.210]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id MAA16513 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:40:44 -0800 Received: (from mtw@localhost) by calypso.view.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA24021; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 07:09:20 +1030 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 07:09:19 +1030 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Talbot-Wilson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: _____Ramdom Tag Lines______ In-Reply-To: <199811290549.AAA07754@ocalhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > Including in Robin's .sig in his reply > > http://www.kens.com/robin/pine-tips.html#pine-randsig but it was effectively not there because his mail was totally discredited by what preceded it. You don't read that kind of stuff to the end. But, guys, wasn't it a hoot to see one of the baby policemen, who has made nil acknowledged contribution to Pine, unleash his foul mouth at Ed Greshko? Heh. Maybe when he is a bigger boy he will look at the source. -- Michael Talbot-Wilson ------------------- mtw@calypso.view.net.au "Many good morrows to my noble lord!" - Catesby greeting Hastings (Richard III, Act III, Scene II). From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:52:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA22676 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:52:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA23528; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:51:50 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id NAA03684; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:49:56 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA29772 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:48:12 -0800 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [209.70.169.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA06716 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:48:12 -0800 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [209.70.169.2]) by kens.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA28071 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 16:48:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 16:48:14 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: _____Ramdom Tag Lines______ In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *PLONK* On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Michael Talbot-Wilson wrote: > On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > > Including in Robin's .sig in his reply > > > > http://www.kens.com/robin/pine-tips.html#pine-randsig > > but it was effectively not there because his mail was totally > discredited by what preceded it. You don't read that kind of stuff > to the end. > > But, guys, wasn't it a hoot to see one of the baby policemen, who > has made nil acknowledged contribution to Pine, unleash his foul > mouth at Ed Greshko? Heh. Maybe when he is a bigger boy he will > look at the source. > > -- > Michael Talbot-Wilson ------------------- mtw@calypso.view.net.au > "Many good morrows to my noble lord!" - Catesby greeting Hastings > (Richard III, Act III, Scene II). > -- Ken Woods kwoods@kens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:12:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id WAA26524 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:12:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id WAA06733; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:12:10 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id WAA20928; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:09:44 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA31392 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:07:12 -0800 Received: from luomat.peak.org (port-77-ts1-gnv.da.fdt.net [209.212.132.236]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id WAA06057 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:07:06 -0800 Message-Id: <199811300607.BAA16852@ocalhost> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 01:06:58 -0500 Reply-To: public+Lists\/Unix\/Pine@fdt.net Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: _____Ramdom Tag Lines______ In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Image-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/luomat@peak.org.tiff X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > You don't read that kind of stuff to the end. Well, I happened to see it... it didn't take much looking, especially when it said 'pine-randsig' at the end. *sigh* maybe I just think like Robin ;-) TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 01:14:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id BAA28064 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 01:14:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id BAA19642; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 01:14:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id BAA17545; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 01:10:52 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA28604 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 01:09:06 -0800 Received: from public.ndh.com (public.ndh.net [194.97.97.21]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id BAA15437 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 01:09:04 -0800 Received: from fireball.control-risks.de (port195.koeln.ndh.net [195.94.92.195]) by public.ndh.com (8.8.7/8.8.0) with ESMTP id KAA06825 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:08:59 +0100 (MET) Received: (from rss@localhost) by fireball.control-risks.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA21027 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:00:21 +0100 Message-Id: <19981130100021.R4893@fireball.control-risks.de> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:00:21 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: _____Ramdom Tag Lines______ In-Reply-To: ; from Michael Talbot-Wilson on Mon, Nov 30, 1998 at 07:09:19AM +1030 References: <199811290549.AAA07754@ocalhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Michael Talbot-Wilson (mtw@calypso.view.net.au) is playing the hero: > But, guys, wasn't it a hoot to see one of the baby policemen, who > has made nil acknowledged contribution to Pine, He hosts my pages. Idiot. > unleash his foul mouth at Ed Greshko? Who, as it seems, has been got by a) MS, b) an international Political Corruptness Squad, c) an overdose. > Heh. Maybe when he is a bigger boy he will look at the source. Thank you for your valuable contribution to a really, really technical problem. Now go away. -- Robin S. Socha From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 01:40:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id BAA18313 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 01:40:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id BAA09561; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 01:40:31 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id BAA24792; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 01:37:42 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA13960 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 01:36:03 -0800 Received: from legolas.mdh.se (cel95eig@legolas.mdh.se [130.238.251.203]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id BAA27633 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 01:36:01 -0800 Received: (from cel95eig@localhost) by legolas.mdh.se (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA04560; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:35:58 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:35:58 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: Emil Isberg Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Emil Isberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: _____Ramdom Tag Lines______ (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: cel95eig@mds.mdh.se X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *mummel* That Listproc is really STUPID!! I wasn't allowed to send to the list .. so now I'll get two copies of every letter. -- /Emil "Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, emil.isberg@mds.mdh.se for you are crunchy and good with ketchup." ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:34:40 +0100 (MET) From: Emil Isberg Reply-To: Emil Isberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: _____Ramdom Tag Lines______ On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Timothy J Luoma wrote: >>You don't read that kind of stuff to the end. >Well, I happened to see it... it didn't take much looking, especially when >it said 'pine-randsig' at the end. >*sigh* maybe I just think like Robin ;-) You are not alone in that. :-) But as the origin to this thread was a faq.. And it got the answer.. Why don't we drop this silly thread in the /dev/null where it belongs? Be excellent to each other. And Robin, stay cool. -- /Emil "Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, emil.isberg@mds.mdh.se for you are crunchy and good with ketchup." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 03:05:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id DAA24320 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 03:05:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id CAA20602; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 02:22:03 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id CAA18256; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 02:18:12 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA32536 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 02:16:33 -0800 Received: from public.ndh.com (public.ndh.net [194.97.97.21]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id CAA05763 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 02:16:32 -0800 Received: from fireball.control-risks.de (port241.koeln.ndh.net [195.94.92.241]) by public.ndh.com (8.8.7/8.8.0) with ESMTP id LAA17898 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:16:29 +0100 (MET) Received: (from rss@localhost) by fireball.control-risks.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA21421 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:16:18 +0100 Message-Id: <19981130111618.E21284@fireball.control-risks.de> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:16:18 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: sending hooks (was: Ramdom Tag Lines) In-Reply-To: ; from Emil Isberg on Mon, Nov 30, 1998 at 10:35:58AM +0100 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Quoting Emil Isberg (cel95eig@mds.mdh.se): > *mummel* That Listproc is really STUPID!! No, it isn't. You are. You and your mailer. Hence the subject (we'll come to that right after the next flame...) > I wasn't allowed to send to the list .. so now I'll get two copies of > every letter. You're even more stupid than your first remark would lead one to believe. Listen and repeat: m-a-n p-r-o-c-m-a-i-l. What was your username again? Anyway: If I may say this although I'm certainly never going to implement it... I love mutt's and Gnus' hooks. Really, I do. Like this: # I'm someone else on the pine mailing list: folder-hook PINE my_hdr From: rsocha(at)kens.com # Windows has eaten # my alt+gr In a time where everyone uses half a dozen accounts, this is a pretty nifty feature, I'd say. Check sven guckes' website for a pretty cool custom setup (and great vim stuff, too). >"Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for you are crunchy and >good with ketchup." Geez, but you do read *old* books, don't you? But then again, you use an obsolete OS, so there... Hehehe... -- Robin S. Socha ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 04:43:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id EAA05552 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 04:43:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id EAA11275; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 04:16:43 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id DAA25871; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 03:51:39 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id DAA35864 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 03:49:32 -0800 Received: from legolas.mdh.se (cel95eig@legolas.mdh.se [130.238.251.203]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id DAA21702 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 03:49:29 -0800 Received: (from cel95eig@localhost) by legolas.mdh.se (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA13176; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:49:19 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:49:18 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: Emil Isberg Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Emil Isberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: sending hooks (was: Ramdom Tag Lines) In-Reply-To: <19981130111618.E21284@fireball.control-risks.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: cel95eig@mds.mdh.se X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Robin S. Socha wrote: >Quoting Emil Isberg (cel95eig@mds.mdh.se): >>*mummel* That Listproc is really STUPID!! >No, it isn't. You are. You and your mailer. Hence the subject (we'll >come to that right after the next flame...) *he* Hmm .. that was it.. I use pine for mailer .. ;-) >>I wasn't allowed to send to the list .. so now I'll get two copies of >>every letter. >You're even more stupid than your first remark would lead one to >believe. Listen and repeat: m-a-n p-r-o-c-m-a-i-l. What was your >username again? *lol* What I ment was that I get two copies sent to me. That is spam. (Eventhough I wont get no more than one email with the same MESSAGE-ID... Almost anyway. It should really be filtered at the source and not at the destination.) >Anyway: If I may say this although I'm certainly never going to >implement it... I love mutt's and Gnus' hooks. Really, I do. Like >this: ># I'm someone else on the pine mailing list: >folder-hook PINE my_hdr From: rsocha(at)kens.com # Windows has eaten > # my alt+gr *grin* Well, perhapps it's time to implement that in pine.. ;-) >In a time where everyone uses half a dozen accounts, this is a pretty >nifty feature, I'd say. Check sven guckes' website for a pretty cool >custom setup (and great vim stuff, too). Naa .. I'll use procmail to do that. Just that I haven't got around to fix that sendfilter yet. ;-) Perhaps I just kill myself instead.. (I think the social service will love that.) >>"Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for you are crunchy and >>good with ketchup." >Geez, but you do read *old* books, don't you? But then again, you use >an obsolete OS, so there... Hehehe... Damn you Robin. ;-) That was my random sig .. and I have selected those with care. I use pine as a mailer.. It's great for my kind of work.. Not that I have any employment.. but it's still great. -- /Emil An egg has the shortest sex-life of all: emil.isberg@mds.mdh.se it gets laid once; it gets eaten once. It also has to come in a box with 11 others, and the only person who will sit on its face is its mother. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 07:43:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id HAA02230 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 07:43:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id HAA14262; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 07:43:11 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id HAA26686; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 07:40:53 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA27114 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 07:38:56 -0800 Received: from mail.mankato.msus.edu (Mail.Mankato.MSUS.EDU [134.29.1.12]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id HAA01059 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 07:38:55 -0800 Received: from bs1.mankato.msus.edu (root@bs1.Mankato.MSUS.EDU [134.29.1.244]) by mail.mankato.msus.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA32372 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:38:51 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199811301538.JAA32372@mail.mankato.msus.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:38:33 -0600 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jeffrey Hundstad To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.05 and Simeon IMAP server MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have reported this problem a couple times before but there seems to be a new twist. Before I reported that folders on a remote IMAP server that were created with Pine 4.05, Pine 3.96, TkRat etc. don't appear using Pine 4.05. Well this only seems to be true when the server is a Simeon IMAP server. If any developer would like to try pointing to our Simeon IMAP server please contact me and I'll set up an account. -- Jeffrey E. Hundstad Linux/AS/400 System&Network/News/WWW/Anon. FTP Admin. Computer Services Box 45 Mankato State University Mankato Minnesota, USA 56002-8400 44 8'N 93 59'W El. 1000' jeffrey.hundstad@mankato.msus.edu http://www.mankato.msus.edu/jeffrey/ PGP Key fingerprint = FF EE F5 C0 3A A0 26 1A D2 73 AE 30 5F E2 2E 2C GPG Key fingerprint = 34FB A7CA E40B B729 7135 26BC 5440 3E69 4787 3761 (507) 389-2516 Work (507) 389-6115 Fax (507) 625-7643 Home ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:23:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id KAA06667 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:23:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id KAA17434; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:23:13 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id KAA05757; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:21:45 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA37928 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:19:47 -0800 Received: from mail.mankato.msus.edu (Mail.Mankato.MSUS.EDU [134.29.1.12]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id KAA11722 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:19:46 -0800 Received: from bs1.mankato.msus.edu (root@bs1.Mankato.MSUS.EDU [134.29.1.244]) by mail.mankato.msus.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA09214 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:19:42 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199811301819.MAA09214@mail.mankato.msus.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:19:27 -0600 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jeffrey Hundstad To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: 3.96 works.. 4.05 doesn't MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've looked at the IMAP code generated between 3.96 and 4.05 and there are differences that seem to make the 4.05 not see the folders on Simeon IMAP. 3.96: IMAP DEBUG 12:00:46 11/30: A00003 FIND ALL.MAILBOXES inbox.* IMAP DEBUG 12:00:46 11/30: * MAILBOX inbox.blue IMAP DEBUG 12:00:46 11/30: A00003 OK Completed 4.05: IMAP DEBUG 12:04:04 11/30: 00000005 LIST inbox. % IMAP DEBUG 12:04:05 11/30: * LIST () "." INBOX IMAP DEBUG 12:04:05 11/30: * LIST (\Noselect) "." news Could someone explain why 4.05 uses ``LIST inbox. %'' as opposed to the working ``FIND ALL.MAILBOXES inbox.*'' that was generated in 3.96. -- Jeffrey Hundstad ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:04:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id LAA05909 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:04:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id LAA18754; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:04:43 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id KAA13835; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:55:10 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA24742 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:53:27 -0800 Received: from jemez.lovelace.com (jemez.lovelace.com [204.134.123.11]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id KAA28151 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:53:24 -0800 Received: by corp.lovelace.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:50:36 -0700 Message-Id: <3BC62AA0578CD111B75C0000F875345D6F3A69@corp.lovelace.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:50:35 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ifversen, Jody M" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: 3.96 works.. 4.05 doesn't MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Jeff, I believe the reason for this has to do with the different IMAP versions. IMAPv2 (which is what was implemented for PINE 3.xx) uses the 'FIND ALL.MAILBOXES' command syntax. PINE 4.xx implemented IMAPv4rel1 syntax. Although it is not explicitly excluded from the RFC for IMAPv4rel1, the 'FIND' commands are considered optional. Therefore, in order to maintain compliancy with the majority of servers, the PINE source was updated to use the most current set of commands. You may want to look at the RFC's for more details (not sure which ones off the top of my head). I would suspect that there is an update for the Simeon server to make it IMAPv4rel1 compliant. Otherwise, you may be able to munge the source code to re-establish the old format commands. (We actually had to do the opposite here with PINE 3.96. Had to modify source to implement IMAP4 commands for a server that didn't recognize the old format) Good luck, Jody -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jody Ifversen Jifversen@lovelace.com Network Administrator II postmaster@lovelace.com Lovelace Health Systems (505) 262-7655 Albuquerque, NM Fax: (505) 268-2967 ----------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey Hundstad [mailto:jeffrey.hundstad@mankato.msus.edu] Sent: Monday, November 30, 1998 11:19 AM To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: 3.96 works.. 4.05 doesn't I've looked at the IMAP code generated between 3.96 and 4.05 and there are differences that seem to make the 4.05 not see the folders on Simeon IMAP. 3.96: IMAP DEBUG 12:00:46 11/30: A00003 FIND ALL.MAILBOXES inbox.* IMAP DEBUG 12:00:46 11/30: * MAILBOX inbox.blue IMAP DEBUG 12:00:46 11/30: A00003 OK Completed 4.05: IMAP DEBUG 12:04:04 11/30: 00000005 LIST inbox. % IMAP DEBUG 12:04:05 11/30: * LIST () "." INBOX IMAP DEBUG 12:04:05 11/30: * LIST (\Noselect) "." news Could someone explain why 4.05 uses ``LIST inbox. %'' as opposed to the working ``FIND ALL.MAILBOXES inbox.*'' that was generated in 3.96. -- Jeffrey Hundstad ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:49:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id PAA12479 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:49:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id PAA24798; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:18:10 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id PAA07557; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:15:45 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA29300 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:12:56 -0800 Received: from mail.mankato.msus.edu (Mail.Mankato.MSUS.EDU [134.29.1.12]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id PAA16176 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:12:54 -0800 Received: from bs1.mankato.msus.edu (root@bs1.Mankato.MSUS.EDU [134.29.1.244]) by mail.mankato.msus.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA20475; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 17:12:45 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199811302312.RAA20475@mail.mankato.msus.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 17:12:29 -0600 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jeffrey Hundstad To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine 3.96 index building fetish... (and fix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Cc: matthias.johnson@mankato.msus.edu, joan.reinen@mankato.msus.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN We at Minnesota State Unversity, Mankato, use pine3.96 to access our Simeon IMAP server. We have a campus address book that has been made read-only. This file gets indexed into a lu file once each rebuild. In the summer (or as it turns out during low usage days) everything works JUST FINE. ...but most of the time when composing a message (during alias expansion) the system THINKS that the lu file on our read-only address books is out of date and causes a /tmp/a3nnnnnn lu file to be created for each read-only address book for EACH user trying to compose a message (OUCH). Pine also complains that the mtime is ~1-12 seconds too new. It appears that pine encodes the creation time for the lu file internally. This time is then compared against the mtime of the text address book. If the text file is newer than the lu then the lu is rebuilt. By placing a fuzz factor of a few seconds between the time encoded in the lu file and the mtime, the overzealous remaking of lu files has stopped. Does anyone see anything completely insane in doing this? diff -r pine3.96/pine/adrbklib.c pine3.96a/pine/adrbklib.c 357c357 < if((timestamp=get_timestamp_from_disk(ab->fp_hash)) >= mtime){ --- > if((timestamp=get_timestamp_from_disk(ab->fp_hash)) >= (mtime-30)){ -- Jeffrey Hundstad PS. Please, please... robot send me MORE FAQs... i love em ... can't get enough. ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ -----------------------------------------------------------------